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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-116

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Touch Bloodstain:
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>>502020972
More like Gyatts
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someone make a real thread
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Don't you quit on me
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>>502023127
Did you not feel it? We finished all the topics last thread. There's nothing left to discuss, every expression of every opinion about every topic. We broached it all, everything now is just rehashes. Monkeys on typewriters finished every work. It's over.
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>>502024284
I will miss you, miquella spanker anon
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>>502023441
But I like talking with you
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>>502024405
No you don't
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>>502024373
I'm still annoyed that we can't have shota Miquella ingame.
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>>502024284
What is that red square on your status bar?
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>>502024698
Good question, I don't even know.
Might be the baldaquin thing.
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>pedos
this place is finished
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Yeah, that was the baldaquin thing.
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>>502025693
I mean the developers literally are that too, so
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>>502023127
Don't you have a gay insecure attention seeking blogpost to make somewhere?
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>>502023127
do it here btw.
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Mad because small
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I love sluts!
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>>502029117
You can see Rya's nipple
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Damn
That would've been so cool if it worked though, right?
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>>502029201
show me yours
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>>502029829
Kill yourself
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>>502029870
love you too, sweetie
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>>502028465
If I wanted attention I'd be farming for karma on reddit. What I want is way less fucking attention ie for the situation to be resolved and everyone off my fucking nuts. You know, like press the "abort," button on the whole thing. I posted about it here cause of the parallels to the story in ER, what with the family plotting and murdering. And I know those jacksses read my posts here so I can communicate to them (like right now)

>>502024519
Yes I do. You're funny.
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>>502030135
I laughed
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>>502029201
And?
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>>502030328
you know what would get you way less attention? not tripfagging and blogposting
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>>502030453
And so it's funny cause it's nsfw art technically
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>>502030328
You sont know who I am
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https://www.gamingbible.com/news/elden-ring-2-new-update-publisher-181570-20241112
I hope this is fake. I didn't like Elden Ring that much and want a new IP with new lore and a better aesthetic
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>>502031008
this is about as real as the "bloodborne 2" leak.
you're a gay nigger for not liking ER's nordkino though
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>>502031008
it's a fucking nothing niggergererg this is just fucking kadokawa saying more games are going to be made, yeah no shit.

However, as reported by GamesRadar, FromSoftware parent company Kadokawa Corporation confirmed in a recent investors call that the company has a whopping 26 games in production.

The investor's call revealed that 20 of those games in production are for consoles while the remaining six are for mobile.

It’s worth keeping in mind that Kadokawa Corporation does own far more companies than just FromSoftware, so it’s very likely that not all of those games are from the Elden Ring developer.
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>>502031008
Did you not read the article? It says literally nothing, retard
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>>502031008
>>502031161
this
they also are behind the mushoku tensei dungeon crawler that just came out a few months ago so its not even indicative that FROMSoft is even one of those games
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>>502031008
>falling for clickbait
You are a colossal retard.
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>>502031381
Why didn't you say "this" to my post too I said the same thing
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>>502031497
because i didn't feel like it BITCH
sorry
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>>502031912
It's okay
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>>502030468
If you were here, you'll remember it was someone else that suggested a trip so nobody could impersonate me. You know what else would get me less attention? If these crooked morons would admit that they suck at what they do and let me have a life with other things to talk about. And my posts about it have been in response to other people for a while now, brother.

>>502030689
Sure I do. Besides, what's that got to do with enjoying talking to you?
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maddy and tripfag, sitting in a tree...
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>>502033424
don't talk about my tardwife like that
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>>502033808
she's clearly horny for the tripfag. sorry anon
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>>502033424
You dont have to say that
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Madison is so stupid and fat any tree she would try to sit on would almost certainly fail to support her gargantuan mass.
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>>502034889
You don't have to say that and I'm not and I'm not
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>>502034542
please confirm or deny this post >>502033924
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>>502035196
Fatty
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>>502035810
That's so cool
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>>502035118
Lmao, that's pretty much how I've always thought women saw me.

>>502034542
Yeah, actions speak louder than words
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>>502036875
she definitely wants to bang bro, nice going
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hmmm ant shield pve time
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>>502037447
its not fucking fair
why is the ant shield so good and the jelly shield so shit?
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>>502038251
Bro your grease? Your magic shield spell?
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>>502038251
wdym
the jelly shield has a nice damage buff you should be grateful fromsoft didn't make it a sub 100% block greatshield + poop stability, like they LOVE doing for some god awful reason
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>>502038401
IT HAS HARDNESS 2 MEANWHILE JELLYSHIELD IS WEAK TO FUCKING PIERCE AND HAS ONLY 50% ELEMENTAL RES
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>>502038714
its a jelly fish... and it has a special buff... you can't have all of the cakes and hardness too
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per the original text

Marika = miko/kami
Miquella = miko/kami
Mohg = yorishiro
Radahn = kannushi

[6934600] Shaman Village
[6934600] 巫子の村

巫子 = miko

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miko

Secret Rite Scroll:

秘儀の巻物
白い樹皮の巻物
影に隠された塔にあるという
神の門の秘儀が記されている
だが、読み解けるのは、ごく一部だ
神の帰還は王により導かれ
王の魂には、依り代が求められる

神の帰還は王により導かれ
王の魂には、依り代が求められる

依り代 is directly yorishiro. It's not a general term for a "vessel", the word has no other meaning than a vessel capable of attracting a divine spirit (kami) and giving them a physical space to occupy during religious ceremonies. 神 is kami. The Lord 王 is summoning the god 神 to the vessel 依り代 that they're both using, implicitly because in addition to playing the role of kannushi 神主 divine lord of ritual, he has himself also become a kami (hence the reference by Miquella to a "strong soul" in Japanese), similar to the way generals in feudal Japan were sometimes deified like Toguwaya and Hachiman.

https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BE%9D%E3%82%8A%E4%BB%A3?oldid=41804734

Tl;dr: Radahn made the vow to help with the ritual but for the ritual to work he has to ascend himself first. He does this by fighting his war and then dying against the only foe whose defeat of him would not disqualify him, the mighty undefeated Malenia. He then goes to the divine gate and performs his role as kannushi with Mohg as yorishiro and Miquella as miko. In the end Miquella and Radahn's ascended spirits (kami) are bound to Mohg's physical body, and both fade away when they vessel is slain (like the Divine Beast).
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>>502039258
then at least let me swap out the AoW for something else like shield barricade if i want ;_;
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>>502039292
don't care
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>>502039258
the buff is good but its attached to a shit shield
you need a 30 str investment for a greatshield that sucks dick
it should've had a lower STR req and lighter weight
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>>502039651
I think 20 STR req and 6.0 weight is reasonable
or as the other anon suggested being able to just change the AoW instead
or even just having a variety of different magic buffs to use, but i guess that role is fulfilled by the upgraded greases in the DLC
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>>502020972
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can anyone help me transfer items from 1 character to another?
im on pc
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>>502040348
in theory I can help
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>>502041820
what about in practice?
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>>502035554
Im ngl I usually just imagine him as Radahn typing on a really small desk and computer like this writing up the long ass posts
cause of the name
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>>502042140
unfortunately not, maddy can probably help though
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>>502040348
I can now, what do you need to transfer, a bunch of stuff or 1 item or what?
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>>502039292
>jpschizo
I've never been convinced that a single one of you people are actually japanese or know how to speak it. Literally "just trust me bro" levels of lorefaggotry
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>>502042749
I fucking hate JOPniggers, you just know none of them could hold even a basic conversation in japanese
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>>502042448
I see that name a lot, is she famous here?
>>502042503
a bunch of stuff if that's okay! i'll at gatefront, password = erg
not yet though, i forgot to pick up an item, gimme 5mins
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>>502043089
Let me know when ready
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>>502043179
signs down
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>>502043179
okay i go to my other character now, ty
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Nigger that is 45 different items what is wrong with you
like Ill transfer them but
What the fuck
I thought you meant like 4
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>>502044103
i'm sorry, I just had a lot of stuff I forgot!! please forgive me...............
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>>502040217
these are always so funny to me. got any more?
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>>502044270
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>>502044383
kek thanks
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ty so much madison, I see why you are famous here
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>>502042749
>>502043024
stop samefagging.
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transferring items on pc is the most bizarre thing but I guess you have your code
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>>502044691
she's kind of rude but she genuinely likes elden ring and the people that inhabit this general
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>>502044691
You dont have to say that
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>>502043089
>is she famous?
not really, kind of? she posts MFW pogchamp selfies and showed her thighs once so most of the general simps for her
she's also very weird and autistic, which is cute when you only have to deal with it through a screen instead of actually living with someone you know feeds her pubes to her pet ants
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>>502042749
>>502039649
samefag brainlet

read a book
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>>502044769
i honestly just cant be bothered to cheat so i ask for help once in a while from a buddy
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>>502044778
I dislike the fucked up nightmares she has about herself and how she inserts cutie Rya into those awful situations
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>>502039292
>posting translations makes people seethe itt for some reason

anyways, thanks for the insight
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>>502044998
she's mentally ill and projects herself onto rya, try to be tolerant towards her
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>>502045057
can we fix her?
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>>502045309
unlikely, but I want to at least help her a little bit
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>>502044906
you have created a new exploitable, fool
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Did anyone actually like the dlc bosses?
It's been a few months since I last played, and starting a new character almost every boss in the game comes back to me immediately. I know, however, that as soon as I get back to shadow of the erdtree it's going to be another fucking grind against twintits.
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>>502046030
I like them but the scadutree system ruined some of their difficulty and made them way to easy
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>>502045039
Always the case, and it's just the one schizo who's mad on mike steelovsky's behalf because he's a shill
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>>502044258
GO FORTH I WILL BACK THEE
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>>502044691
>>502044778
>biological woman
>kind, mostly
>plays the game of the general she's in
>is helpful to her genmates
>organizes frequent fcs
the dsgtroon fears this
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Elden Ring fucking sucks
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>>502046030
Granted I haven't played the DLC since I finished it a few months ago so maybe some of this shit has changed, but in short:
no.
i COULD have though, and some of them are fun, but others are genuinely broken pieces of shit with fucked hitboxes and fucked damage numbers. the skibidi toilet system only exacerbates this problem. And unfortunately - the base game has a real problem with extra bosses being fights rejected from other FROM titles because they felt they sucked too much to be fun. the DLC also has this problem with some bosses that just seemed like they needed longer in the oven to refine.
The DLC bosses have high highs like the dancing lion, but holy shit do the lows blow chunks.
someone post the radahn webm. you know the one.
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>>502046581
rent free
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>>502046030
I dont think I disliked a single one. Worst boss in the dlc was the ghostflame dragon in the giant fight with npcs because the npcs dont do any damage to it band will team up with the dragon to fight you and respawn every time you die
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>>502046778
Niel and Radahn are probably the worst examples of what the DLC has to offer, I think
putrid knight too, to a lesser extent
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>>502046778
>>502046886
they actually fixed radahn's hitboxes in the most recent patch and nerfed his damage.
they say history repeats itself..
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>>502046872
ironically the fight was really easy for me because, being an intCHUD i decided to perch up on a nearby cliff with latenna and terra magicka. all i had to do was kill the skeletons that spawn in on top of us and let her do the rest
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>>502046824
seethe and dilate, dsgtroonie
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>>502047097
That's good at least, I haven't touched the DLC at all since then because of how sour the fight left me after I finally won
I hope they fixed Niahl too
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Miquella = Mike
Rykard = Rick

who else
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>>502047359
That name is not yours. Prepare yourself, Rykard.
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>>502047673
God dammit, kek
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>>502044998
I think it's kinda hot
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>>502048205
You didnt even reply to my drawing of you you prick kill yourself
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>>502047359
Ronnie.
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>>502048490
This hurts my brain realizing that thats the identical pronounciation
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>>502048467
Oh fuck, sorry I was chatting with doordash support. It's eerily accurate lmao, I really did have to Google "yaoi" after the dlc (though I had an idea based on the context...)

Why is my chest making faces tho
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>>502048862
Thats the faces on his knees
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>Miquella's goodhooderism form has wider hips than his Mom's

Fugggggggg...
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>>502049319
That's fanart
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>>502049319
>goodhooderism
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>>502049850
Do you think graces are warm?
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>>502049927
just a little bit...
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>>502049850
>>502049927
>>502050076
If they're not it must suck curled up around them in the cold
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>>502049850
ugly as fuck
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I moved eldien ring from my ssd to hdd and now it loads super duper slow
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>>502050625
Ohhhrrrr you shouldnt do that you should move it back...
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>>502050650
but I need space for monstie huntie
also fc when?
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>>502050625
>>502050865
then move things that arent elden ring from your ssd to your hdd doofus
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>>502050865
Didnt the demo end?
I was too busy to host one tonight and its too late to do it now, so maybe tomorrow or something
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>>502050989
Busy with what?
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>>502051454
Injecting stray dogs with rabies
Why does that matter??
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>>502049019
Lol I see it now. Thanks, I don't think any has drawn a picture for/of me before.
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>>502051527
you're so weird
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>>502052590
Im not
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>>502052627
>28 seconds
get a hobby
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>>502052292
Its just a picture of Radahn, your name is Radahn
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>>502052760
It would have been faster but I was on post cooldown from another thread
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MADDY ARE YOU OKAY
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>>502053134
You dont have to say that and yes, why
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>>502053234
YOUVE BEEN HIT BY
YOUVE BEEN STRUCK BY
A SMOOTH CRIMINAL
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>>502052772
Yeah I know, but you called it a picture of me so I went with it. I know it's not a picture of *me*, the guy posting
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ONE BOSS
I DON'T KNOW WHY
I BOUGHT A DLC TOO HARD TO TRY
KEEP THAT IN MIND THEY DESIGNED THIS DLC TO BLOAT GAME TIME
THAT'S ALL I KNOW

THE FRAGMENTS ARE KEY
WATCH EM FLY BY AS I BURN THE SCADUTREE
LOSE MY BUFFS AT THE END OF THE EXPANSION
I HAVE NO MORE BOSSES TO FIGHT
IT'S SO UNFAIR

DIDN'T LOOK OUT BELOW
THROW MY CONSOLE RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW
TRY TO HOLD ON BUT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
I WASTED IT ALL JUST TO DIE TO RADAHN'S OVERHEAD BLOW

I SPEND ALL MY TIME FARMING GREASE
NOW THAT LAUNCH DAY IS CLEAR, ALL I SEE ARE GUIDES
JUST LIKE DS3, IT'S REMINDING ME, OF A MEMORY, OF A TIME WHEN
I CRIED SO HARD, FOR EASIER BOSSES TO FIGHT
BUT IN THE END, I CAN'T WIN
BOUGHT PS PLUS, AND PAID SO MUCH
BUT IN THE END, I JUST CAN'T WIN

ONE BOSS, I DON'T KNOW WHY
THAT FEELS TO HARD TO BEAT, I JUST WANT TO WIN
NEW GEAR TO TRY WHILE KILLING FIREFLIES
BUT IT SERVES TO REMIND THAT I
BOUGHT THIS SHIT

IN SPITE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD TOLD ME
NOT TO PRE-ORDER THE DLC
REMEMBERING ALL THE GOOD TIMES WITH THE SOULS TRILOGY
I'M SURPRISED IT GOT SO BAD

THINGS AREN'T THE WAY THEY WERE BEFORE
YOU WOULDN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE DEMONS SOULS ANYMORE
THE BEST DLC'S ARE ALL IN THE GOTY'S
IT ALL COMES BACK TO THE GOD DAMN BOSS

I SPEND ALL MY TIME SUMMONING HELP
NOW THAT LAUNCH HYPE HAS DIED, I CAN'T FIND SIGNS
JUST LIKE DS3, IT'S REMINDING ME, OF A MEMORY, OF A TIME WHEN
I CRIED SO HARD, FOR EASIER BOSSES TO FIGHT
BUT IN THE END, I CAN'T WIN
BOUGHT PS PLUS, AND PAID SO MUCH
BUT IN THE END, I JUST CAN'T WIN

I'VE PUT MY TRUST IN YOU
PAID AS MUCH AS I COULD PAY
FOR ALL THIS
THERE'S ONLY ONE THING I CAN SAY

I'VE PUT MY TRUST IN YOU
PAID AS MUCH AS I COULD PAY
FOR ALL THIS
THERE'S ONLY ONE THING I CAN SAY

I SPENT $40 FOR SHADOW OF THE ERDTREE
MY HELP KEEPS DYING TO CONSORT RADAHN
JUST LIKE DS3, IT'S REMINDING ME, OF A MEMORY, OF A TIME WHEN
I CRIED SO HARD, FOR EASIER BOSSES TO FIGHT
BUT IN THE END, I CAN'T WIN
BOUGHT PS PLUS, AND PAID SO MUCH
BUT IN THE END, I JUST CAN'T WIN
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>>502054174
>Enter PCR fogwall
>It Ain't Me starts playing
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>>502054174
This makes me laugh every time, I dont care how many times I see this sort of thing
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>>502054174
>>502055352
same, i love in the end shitposts
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One thing about SOTE that really bothers me is how forced some of the conflicts are. Messmer and his boys should have no reason to come after you. In fact if you're Elden Lord, you're the last person they should be mad at.

But on the other hand, you are trespassing in his castle.
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>>502054174
GEMMITY GEM
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>>502059128
Well, his mom did literally the whole motivation behind his campaign and resurrected you to come murder the rest of his family and take his dad's place as lord
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>>502044383
sexo Malenia Fia
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Why did Ranni make herself blue?
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>>502062951
https://youtu.be/8tSbC-Vu0-0
something tells me it was an unexpected side effect
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>>502062951
Wouldn't you?

Probably cause of the Snow Witch/col sorcery/Dark Moon. Or maybe just because it went with her outfit and soul
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>>502062951
she took the appearance of her teacher, renna. there's no real reason why she did this, but we can infer i guess that she must have deeply idolized her to do so
or maybe she came to resent her own appearance
shrug
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>>502062951
To pwn invaders
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Why does Tanith start eating Rykard? Why can't we eat her?
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>>502065591
Because that was the Volcano manor's/Rykards philosophy
You do, via runes
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>>502066004
What philosophy though? Everyone get eaten and then be together as family? Good point about the runes, I guess we do kinda eat her that way
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*cuts off Madison's eyelids with rusty scissors*
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>>502020785
aaaaa, why can those soldier near castle ensis just take off 80% of my 60 vigor health in one hit!
nobody hit that hard in belurat
I guess I need to avoid being hit but darn!
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>>502073489
*shoots you in the head 7 times before you can get close*
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>>502056063
Sellen Love!
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>>502073806
I can be your tank bf if you'll be my host gf
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>>502073896
*dodges your bullets with superhuman speed, pins you against the wall and rapes your pussy until you get pregnant*
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>>502079056
This made my pussy tingle just a bit
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>>502073489
You don't have to say that
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>>502073489
*encases madison in a golden bull and starts a fire underneath it*
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>>502084498
You don't have to say that but that's interesting too
I think it's called brazen bull or brass bull though. I'm duprised fromsoft hasn't made a boss about it
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>>502046030
I like midra and rellana, the rest are shit
putrescent knight and romina are okay I guess
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MADDY ARE YOU OKAY
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>>502085310
You don't have to say that, no, why?
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>>502085414
ARE YOU OKAY MADDY
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>>502085103
Rellana was good
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>>502085445
No and you don't have to say that
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>>502085454
Jumping the moons attack was so fun but it felt kind of crap how getting hit once basically combos you into the next one
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>>502085487
what's wrong?
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>>502085487
WILL YOU TELL US THAT YOU'RE OKAY?
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>whenever you die you respawn
>abductor virgin grabs you and takes you to Volcano Manor, meaning that you're alive inside it
>wheel breaks on the way and it falls into a rock crevice no one is going to bother to fish it out of
>tarnished gets stuck inside still alive for years and years and years and years and years
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>>502084863
It is called that. Pretty brutal. Do you like learning about torture methods?
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>>502086449
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>>502087059
>>502086449
I ship them.
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>>502086449
There are no new ways
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>Music: 0
Elden Souls
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>grab is so slow I wait and then do a jumping attack and then he grabs me out of the air as I realized how slow his attack is
also
>big head ants have delayed attacks
kek
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>>502087482
She definitely wants his schizo cock
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>>502089467
?
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good morning erg!!!
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>>502091064
good morning bitch
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>>502090982
>>502089467
I actually think the ambient music is the best part of er's ost, aside from a few of the dlc tracks + godrick + radahn (both base game and gay ver.)
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>>502089467
this is the correct way to play if you ask me
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>>502091191
I fucking hate the dumbass combat music interrupting the already mostly bland ambiance, the sound effects in most areas alone is good enough
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>>502091189
pissy at this hour of the AM missy?
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>>502091064
Good morning
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>>502092209
searing hot knife against the leg skin is way better than pussy "look at me" horizontal papercuts
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>>502093851
The problem is that it blisters and is really uncomfortable feeling because of that plus it cools down fast because knives are thin, so yoy have to reheat it multiple times if you're doing it pretty much more than once or twice
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>offtopic tourists trying to derail the thread
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>>502094482
>offtopic tourists
no such thing.
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>>502094583
You sound upset.
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>>502094482
It's about how Rya would do it
She could hypothetically stay by the lava and keep reheating the knife, but then she'd have the problem of doing it in public which she probably doesn't want to do
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>>502094758
Except Rya would never hurt herself, so it really is about you. Stop pretending it's about her, it's cowardly and miserable.
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>>502094978
Anon she LITERALLY asks you to kill her. She would and does
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>>502095103
Take your meds, random uppercase don't make your argument better. And she asks you to kill her, meaning she can't do anything herself.
You really are autistic and a coward.
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>>502095298
Based
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>>502094978
>>502095298
stop bullying madison even though you're right
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>>502095298
I don't have any I have to take, and yeah just because you're mentally prepared to do one doesn't mean you're entirely prepared to do the last step
I'm not and you have no reason to have even tried to relating it back to anyone, it was a picture of Rya being talked about
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>>502095471
Kill yourself
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>>502095471
Newfags don't deserve any kind of respect. Especially when they try to hide behind a character to justify their offtopic crap.
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>>502095780
How many hours do you have in the game?
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>>502094663
?
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>>502095841
>moving the goalposts
I accept your surrender, tourist.
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MADDY ARE YOU OKAY
ARE YOU OKAY MADDY
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>>502096250
You aren't answering because you're afraid that I'll have played more than you, right? I wasn't going to be snotty and annoying if I had more than you, I just wanted to point out that you're wrong, so how many do you have? If you don't answer I'm probably going to assume that it's barely any though because that's be funnier if you don't actually play the game
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>>502096250
Also here, if you're wanting to see mine first so you can edit your play hours to be more and are worried about undershooting it. I won't be ashamed if I have less, I still think this is a good amount
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>>502095103
big huge vast and enormous difference between "look at me" thin and hesitant cuts type of self-harm, and actually suicidal "end my existence" type of self-harm, of which Rya is the latter exclusively
>>502094101
this is retarded, the injury from the hot knife is strong enough to satisfy the impulse, and the blistering itself is something you can tear away at for much longer and is a more constantly present pain, which showcases the difference between teenage narcissism self harm and proper penitent mentally ill self torture like what I do
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>>502099227
You're mixing up philosophical moral reasoning and physiological ones
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>>502099227
let's see your scars then, edgelord
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>>502031008
Every article about Fromsoft is always like
>Did FromSoftware Just Confirm That Elden Ring 2 Will Have Base Building?!
>Dark Souls released in 2011 and after much critical...
>[2000 words later]
>which brings us to now. Elden Ring 2 might have new mechanics, who knows?
Why do people even click then, you know the answer already
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spira sucks.
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>>502103037
everything sucks and you're getting old
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>>502103124
rotten butterflies doesnt suck.
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>>502087994
I don't mean new ways, just in general. Its a uniquely human activity.

>>502099227
That's what I'm talking about. You done it on LSD yet? That really takes the torture to a whole new level, let me tell you...

>>502087059
What, you squeamish, bitch? Ironic you'd post that, since in that scene he's talking to a woman who murdered her children. Send it to my cunt foster mom. Want her name?

>>502091064
Good morning Rya poster. I hope you're doing well.
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>>502103919
You're kinda weird
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>>502103919
take your meds or destroy your router
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Tripfag is gonna make cement girl look like a joke
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>>502104571
I am so tired of him
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why the fuck does spira cost 2 slots and why is the tracking so fucking retardedly bad FUCK
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So anyway, after killing the Godsflayer, where do I go from here? This is a dead end.
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>>502104693
just.......free-aim it
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>>502105072
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>>502105053
godskin, and you need to take an exit from the boss room that you haven't been to before. if you're facing the area where they spawn, it's to the left
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>>502105293
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>>502105393
Aight thanks.
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>>502105439
I should also mention that the elevator you unlock with a stonesword key is an optional side area. I don't even remember if that's before or after godskin duo desu
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>>502105401
buff spira and buff the down syndrome floating chaos to have perfect tracking just like all those gay sorceries tyvm
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>>502105692
floating chaos will be redeemed in soupbound
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buffing spells is a retarded idea when there's already enough screen filling dogshit to play with
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>>502105865
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>>502105865
Fromsoft ahould just make weapons automatically merf themselves thw more they're used globally.
Just tally up the amount of damage done by each damage source, and then reduce the amount of damage by 1 foe the top 40%
After about just a year the game would've been perfectly balanced
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>>502105817
i can't wait for 2hu armored core spell souls with no melee combat
>>502105865
in an ideal world there would be no spells with effective range greater than the length of a zweihander
>>502106083
fucking nigger i tried this spell out last nigh and its so fucking bad it might as well just not be a thing
you do more damage with a fucking kukri
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>>502106083
make it a small aoe and give it HA+ABS instead
make it scale with a little str
done
>>502106207
that's retarded and valve tried that with cs:s and guess what
it was dogshit there
>>502106241
in an ideal world the game would actually be good lol
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shit spells should remain shit, actually
buff stars of ruin and giantsflame
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>>502106573
It would be different this time
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>>502106657
SIGH at least it got a single buff
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>>502106949
""""buff""""
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>>502106683
it would encourage people to hide the weapons they are using leading to a smaller amount of mechanical discoveries
shitters would whine because pvp would be affecting pve
if it was just a modifier all it would be able to modify is damage as poise values are far too intricate to change weekly and animation speed is not something they have chosen to modify purely in pvp
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>>502107016
well. at least its not crucible bloom.
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>>502107170
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>>502107063
I'm suprised a game tried it before because it's such a shitty idea
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>>502107339
valve had dynamic pricing on weapons in css for a period which lead to 16k awps and deagles and lmgs buyable on round one

warframe does it with riven stats but they fucked with it
new weapons used to always have a scaling value of 1 which meant new weapon rivens would always be valuable, they changed it so that new weapon rivens now always had a value of .5 so they aren't as strong and since most new weapons tend to just be better they stay at .5
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>>502103037
it's quite bad
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>>502107253
hol shi stop making me remember
fromsoft loves its joke roster of weapons and spells
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>>502108138
72 Faith
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>>502107901
Can you outrun spira? This dude is just chugging and walking. He's just standing there.
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>>502107849
Wowzies
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>>502108202
okay but a lore joke.. so its ok
(zaki was like pfft what if we increased warmth stat req by 90 pts)
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>>502108534
lore jokes are still jokes
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>>502108342
yes, easily. that webm was like the only kill I could ever get with it
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>>502105625
Yeah but I'm out of stones, so I'm going down.
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>>502108628
aaa
>>502108639
lmao
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>>502108685
that's the correct area spiderfag, keep going and kill the dragon
>only +11 flask
you missed a church
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Also, I have a lot of bones to pick Elden Ring and the Souls games in general, but writing down stuff is one of the best ideas.
I would've fell for this ambush otherwise.
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Welp. Off to get back to writing my Miquella spanking fanfic until I feel the call of adventure again.

>>502108954
Honestly, I think I missed a lot of stuff. And that's despite exploring a lot and finding a lot of stuff by myself. I think the only thing I used a guide for was for Aurelia, the poor crybaby jellyfish.
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>2 years and he still hasn't beaten ER
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>>502109695
I didn't get it at launch, it couldn't run on my PC.
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>>502099576
what the fuck are you on about? what philosophy? get your head out of your ass and clean up those grimy nostrils, so full of your own fart particulates, I don't want you posting anywhere near me ewwwwwww
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>>502109937
I'm saying you said stuff about penitence which is unrelated to "endorphins feel good", you're the one being a dumb snob about a thing you don't even do
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>kill thief, crucible knight guy, claws, palpatine, poopa, pyro guy, assassinfag

I miss them bros...
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Miquella should have crawled inside Radahns mouth to act like his tongue like one of those fish parasites
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>>502112406
You miss annoying people?
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>>502112797
But my aim is gettin' better!
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>>502112406
i miss noxy...
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>>502112797
They weren't annoying. Only max was
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>>502114446
>poopa wasn't annoying
(You)
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I love smart and serious qts
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>>502118167
I want to fuck her ass in a janitor closet just before a class. See her standing for the entire class, unable to sit.
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>>502118167
So whyd you post one thats dumb and gets balled?
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>>502112406
We still got our favorite fat ugly bitch Madison
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>>502119182
I'm not fat or ugly and you don't have to say that
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>>502119182
I want to flay her alive and make boots and gloves from her skin
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>>502119372
How fast do you think that you can make boots that you'd think that you could survive being flayed that long???
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>>502094758
>how Rya would do it
>self harm a form created by magic
Retarded as fuck may god have mercy on your pitiful soul femoid/troon
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>>502119358
I do have to say that
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>>502121147
It is entirely unclear how it works headcano-kun
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>>502121472
Why
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>>502119569
No no, I mean peeling her skin off while she's still alive. She'll eventually die from it, obviously. I'd make my boots after her skin is treated and tanned.
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>>502121652
Why not
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>>502122485
????
If you're saying you need to do something then there's a reason for the need
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dogshit general
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>>502122314
At that point why alive then? Also would the defensive stats on the armor be line good atleat? So it's for a good cause?
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>>502122860
people will defend this
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>>502122940
>Why alive then
You'd be a horrible torturer.
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>>502121652
You said you get wet when we bully you and threaten you with rape and sexual violence so we are trying to help you, that's why
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>>502123448
No, I'm asking to get elaboration, not to disagree, it's an open prompt question
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>>502123613
No I didn't I don't think and that also makes zero sense with the question being asked
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I think Onyx Lords might be my favorite minibusses nowadays
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>>502123714
Do I really need to dig through the archives to find the posts where you drunkenly admit that you touch yourself to rape threats from anons?
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>>502123881
No
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Why do we still let this dumb slampig talk? We should put a muzzle on her fat face and just use her as a communal sex toy. Maybe the constant pussy-pounding would make her lose some weight...
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>>502124063
Good girl.
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>>502122314
>>502122940
>>502123448
>>502123613
>>502123626
>>502123714
>>502123881
>>502124063
>>502124081
>>502124252
This isnt elden ring related
Talk about elden ring
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>>502124063
Do you get off thinking of being pinned down by a man's weight and forcibly bred?
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FC tonight?
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>>502124437
Mind your own business fagboy, I'm trying to court a fine young lady here
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>>502124437
Based. Tourists are annoying.
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>>502125080
You don't even play elden ring
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>>502124530
Sorry I won't be able to join until sunday if it's the usual FC time
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>>502125080
You struck a nerve, xe's malding.
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>>502125279
It's okay
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>>502125080
What counts as a tourist
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>>502127795
Posts that are low quality and worsen a thread.
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>>502128007
That doesn’t rly sound like the definition of tourist lmao
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>>502128156
Posts like yours.
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>>502128156
Tourismcoded post...
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>>502122698
The reason is private but I do have to post it. Please do not ask why again.
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>>502129069
That makes no sense
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>shitposting time
Ha, I see /dsg/ is bored again.
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>>502129347
Yerp
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>>502129243
What makes no sense?
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>>502129979
There's no reason that you wouldn't be able to say
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>>502129551
why are they so mean to us?
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>>502130395
Jealousy of the jump button instead of having to do weird running jump
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>>502130173
The reason is that it's private. Stop being nosy.
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>>502130395
Jealousy of being the forgotten elder brother surpassed by the genius little brother.
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>>502130626
Being nosy about something that involves yourself isn't being nosy that's normal
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>blame the shit thread on dsg(literally dead) instead of the actual problem causers
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fc time morons
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>/dsg/gers mad about being called out
Yes, seethe!
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>>502132039
post settings
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>>502132039
what level should i bring?
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>>502130869
It doesnt involve you at all.
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>>502132664
Its normal to call people their names, and why should I do that?
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for free
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125-138 w/e
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>>502132980
kys chink
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how come there's no option to display ps buttons in elden ring
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Yup, I think I'm done.
Elden Ring is a succession of stonewalls, and I'm very tired that this sentinel just can spam whatever attacks it want, and go through my shield.
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>>502133408
This is bait because you know thats right at the end of the game because yoy beat it bwfore and you know that you'll get replies of people telling you to just finish it
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>>502133502
>yoy beat it bwfore
I certainly didn't beat it "bwfore". I remember every fucker that kills me in three hits.
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>>502133328
Because gave developers are lazy when it comes to UI
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guess erg still doesn't play elden ring
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>>502134485
>>502132980
are you stupid?
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>>502134538
Yeah, why?
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Here's my build dilemma (pve): I really like stance breaking, but I want dex for faster casting. I'll of course do occult infusion with dragon incants on the side.

Can anyone recommend me a weapon, or should I just forget the stance breaking and do a dagger run just for fun?
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>>502132980
>pc
oh no no no
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>>502094101
>>502099227
why are you encouraging this behavior, fuck off
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>>502135090
This might suprise you but Rya is fictional and her actions cannot be altered by online discussion on 4chan
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>>502135174
Unless I start writing a fanfic.
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>>502135772
Do it, don't ai generate it though like that one anon
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>>502135864
I have standards, thank you. My Miquella spanking smut is hand-written.
With just one hand, the other is busy.
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>>502135976
Then why did you even post >>502135772 then
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>>502136014
To annoy you, because I am very angry at that skeletal tree dragon sentinel.
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>>502136283
It worked
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Rape spiderfag
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>>502136526
Good. It doesn't bring me any satisfaction, though. Only a little relief from the bitterness I feel.
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>>502123881
that was varreposter, wasn't it
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>>502139457
do you want to fuck messmer?
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>>502121504
>i-its unclear
>headca-ca-canon...
>souls game
Retarded as fuck, praying you become a genetic dead end
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>only 20k people playing on pc right now
It's absofuckinglutly over...
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Tell my sister I said hi
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>>502139713
No
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>>502140025
How do you think it works? The necklace? Because when the Tarnished buts on or off the appearance necklaces it activates immediately
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>>502140354
why do you keep posting him then?
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>>502140630
That was a joke because that's cropped porn which would imply the opposite, thus subverting expectations ir causing a sense of conflicting messages that could be construed as humorous
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>>502140869
oh I couldn't tell

you do want to fuck him, then?
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*splits varreposter's head open with an axe*
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>>502141532
based messmer soldier
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>>502142267
messmer soldiers have great great
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Any ideas for a madness build?
I'm not sure about which setup is best now that Vyke's got repeatedly nerfed.
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>>502151294
Melina is hot.
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I like the horn aesthetic in this dlc
that’s all i rly wanted to say
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All the talk of rape and the questions directed at me personally, while I was out making deliveries to college students made it a little too obvious. Especially just flat out telling me to to rape my sister. Sick fucks. Really since I first mentioned any of it at all, it's been pretty obvious. No wonder Bay of Pigs was such a shit show.

Madison, you seem cool - which may be the biggest red flag of all.
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>>502156440
What…
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Enslaving Roderika and forcing her to be the Roundtable Hold's worthless fuckmeat
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>>502157541
this but its tripfag to his sister
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Eldie Ring FC time
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Sorry I keep getting connection errors one sec
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>>502156440
You don't have to say that and I don't know what that means but it's FC time
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>>502158805
what level should I bring?
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>>502159497
I'm 166 personally
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Using a pure bow build made me realize how shit the combination of melee combat and open world invasions is.
Being annoying at range is just so much better.
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>>502157541
Would it be out of character for Roderika to spank Miquella if she met him?
Asking for a friend.
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>even her lashes are blonde
woah..
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>>502159680
yes.
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3/4
Just one more
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>>502159783
Darn.
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>>502159709
why do a lot of blonde people dye their eyebrows dark brown?
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3/4
It'll be fun to join
>>502158805
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>>502160406
Sorry eating right now. Hopefully you get a 4th.
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>>502160585
How much more food do you have to eat?
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>>502160786
the entire meal
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Kojima gets to direct the next From soft soul like, what do you expect from it?
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>>502160868
hollywood friends using mocap for npcs and long cutscenes i guess
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>>502160862
Can you eat while you play?
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>>502160961
WHO IS THIS GIRL
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>>502161054
Some dumb slut that /dsg/ tries to shill.
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>>502161167
What? No.
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>>502161146
What why is the Roundtable on fire!?
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>>502161325
have you not played the game?
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>>502161325
I burned it after fire giant but I'll keep Maliketh alive since it makes your world ugly
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3/4
I'll buy you a steam game if you join
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>>502161565
what if i'm already one of the people queued up
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>>502161692
I'll buy you a game if we get the fc going yeah
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>>502161724
Where does your money come from? You're on 4chan for 23 hours a day
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I just got the dlc and am thinking about rolling a cleric character. Without any spoilers, will I be able to use him fully by mainly casting holy spells? Not like lightning spears and stuff, but actual holy spells?
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>>502161875
I ferment black garlic and sell it to homeless shelters
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>>502159924
probably because irl there's not a lot of color distinction between the eyebrows and skin if your hair is that light, so they either dye their brows or just shave them off and paint some new brows on
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>>502162025
Yes, there's a specific few spells that I think you'll really like and fit the aesthetic
Want me to say what they're called?
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>>502162025
sure why not
the single disc spell is very cheap and strong
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>>502103919
good morning Radahn poster!!
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3/4 pleeease
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>>502161054
I keep telling people those are just maddy's selfies but no one believes me
>>502162025
The DLC has the best non lightning holy magic in the game. Also the best lightning, but you know
Its basically a destructo disc. It deals fucktarded amounts of damage as a holy damage chainsaw.
Also has the best healing magic in the game.
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>>502162267
>I keep telling people those are just maddy's selfies but no one believes me
that girl is way too pretty to be her
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>>502161692
>>502161724
>>502161565
i walked over fro mthe kitchen form where i was enjoying a nice succulent chinese meal into my room
so i can boot up the game

i will be afk but u will get hopefully 1 fc in unless connection error rapes all of u at the same time.
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4/4
Yay
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>>502162313
She posted her thighs before. she's skinny and white, that's 100% her
no one else is autistic enough to gnaw on a hatsune miku doll and take pictures of herself while she does it
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>>502157541
You don't have to name your file that
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I hate projectiles
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>>502162869
But everyone there used projectiles
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>>502162317
A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?

>>502162425
nah, there's no way
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3/4 again
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>>502162937
not me
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>>502163089
That bloodflame throw counts!
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>>502162425
I need to see her thighs, link the post
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>>502163009
ok i finished up eating
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guess we're stuck on 3/4 again

>>502163135
they're not... pretty.
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>>502163115
aww man
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>>502163135
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/501853334/#q501901242
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WHY DID THAT CRIT NOT DO DAMAGE
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That's the second time that someone has reposted me and it does zero damage
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>>502163754
uhhh funky net i have no clue
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>>502163632
cutting is bad :(
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Everybody's outfits looks so good this fc btw
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better see some epic fc webums
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>>502164128
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>502163802
good, don't hurt yourself pls
>>502163830
yeh
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>>502164327
Riposted
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one sec changing gear
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why did my frenzy hug do so little damage
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>>502164128
The I hope someone else is recording because I'm not this time
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>>502054174
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>>502164453
when? you popped my healing bubble that one time
>>502164472
im not either lol
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>>502164453
To a fucked up cyclepath like me, the madness effect is just a normal effect
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>>502164372
oh okay
shit netcode moment, dw about it
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every fc I get an elden stars kill is a good fc
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I was teying to get you to cast rings of light
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>>502165042
I tried and it missed lmao
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>>502163632
Hot, I love this woman
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got a land of shadow kill too, nice
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looks like 5/4 now
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>>502020785
Anyone into ER modding?
I'm trying to modify Reforged's fortunes but I guess they use stuff outside regulations.bin
I just want to make the reeds fortune work with other weapons. I tried changing the weapon class to great katanas (as its one of the weapon classes that work with the fortune), and realized changing the moveset to GKs works, and if the weapon has a custom tae it keeps its custom moveset, but anything else gets replaced with GKs moves, so guard counters look silly.

I don't use gooncord
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>>502165852
Ask the 'cord
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>>502165981
link?
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how many gaymores do u have
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>>502166494
Just two, wild strikes and storm blade and the only useful ashes of war for it
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ai ggs im done for the night, seems like you have 4 ppl rn anyhow
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>>502166108
https://discord.gg/mT2JJjx
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>>502166108
https://discord.com/invite/pTkPMSdfKm
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>>502166604
try impaling thrust
L2 R2 L2 R2
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>>502167079
Can I have a third claymore
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3/4, are we done for tonight? It was fun if so
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bligbolg glaemorg is breddy gud until someone busts out a shield and parries you i jus pwned some nerds in the arena with it
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>>502167153
i'll find one when we're transferring stuff
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>>502167236
That's fun though, getting parried is awesome and makes me pog
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Me done
Good games
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>>502167557
I just fought some dude using blinkbulge with two rapiers, it was pretty cool ngl, but it's definitely parry bait if you keep doing the same attack after the blink lol. Hmm... blinkbolt zweihander blinkbolt heavy thrusting sword..
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the only webm i have is hitting 3/4 hits of ansbach angy blade. even though the first 2 landed, the 3rd one missed anyway then there's fire at the end
also where does madison get the money to buy everyone games everytime there's an fc
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ggs would be more fun 2v2 desu
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>>502168427
good webm
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>>502168427
Milady is so fun to fight but I hate using it, it seems very fun with that bleed build though
You dont have to say that but its not every time and also everyone always declines the game
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>>502168427
you were so fuckin laggy dude

>also where does madison get the money to buy everyone games everytime there's an fc
I assume she gets NEETbucks
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>>502168427
I think i ran out of stam there which is why i ended up eating most of the hits instead of immediately rolling out. Also furious blade is fun. I also use it with milady or greatkat if u dont mind the stamina management
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>>502168850
sorry.. I got diagnosed australian when i was born
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>>502169740
EWWWWWWWWWWW
EEWUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHWWWWWWWWWW
UEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>502169740
my condolences, anon.
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>>502169740
>straya
that makes
a lot of sense now
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>>502170279
cutie
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I need to start working out again so I can feel better blowing hot loads to things like this
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>>502170618
Why not just not do that?
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>>502170678
Because I love cooming
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>>502170618
a true /fit/izen
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>>502170765
Why?
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>>502170809
Because
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>>502170618
keep up the good work anon
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>>502171169
>>502170618
pumping
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>>502171805
very good, funny. I laughed.
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good night /erg/
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>>502174163
goodnight cutie
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>>502174163
Goodnighty
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>>502172006
I didn't.
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>>502174163
Goodnight disgusting fat blob anon
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I got a fortune cookie that says "There is a prospect of a thrilling time ahead of you."
What could this mean for my elden ring run?
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>>502175137
you will discover the secret sellen ashes and gain her as a permanent companion instead of having her turn into a ball at the end of her questline
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>>502176314
Wowzies
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>>502140442
It's magic and literally doesn't matter. Point is that the fanart is dogshit, retard.
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>>502177790
You don't know that and either way it doesn't matter, so is fanart that has her tail on her human form
It's fantastic, you don't have to cry
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What weapon is he using to slap hos this holiday season?
Strength/faith only, because seeing is believing!
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>>502181520
Sacred Fire Knight GS goes well with that setup.
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>>502181520
Horns could maybe work as like a sleigh bell thing but idk
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There is nobody decent on 4chan.
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>>502184386
You didnt join the FC
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>Radhanigger is an invasive species
Wrong thread bucko, not shocked you're a turdworlder though
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Tell me where is Noxy for I much desire to speak with him.
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>>502184774
her*
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>>502184826
It*
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>>502184386
>passport
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Its over..
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>>502184774
Getting raped by hostchads somewhere.
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>>502169740
It's always magical when I connect to a fellow Strayan. It feels so nice.
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>>502184386
I believe you and wish the best for you!
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thinking about how my loving FTH/STR boyfriend gently kisses my selfharm scars on my tummy and leg :)
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>>502188934
you aren't her
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>>502189374
who??
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>>502188934
If he really loved you he'd help you make more
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Holding Miquella's hands while he's getting pegged by Roderika after she awakens to her inner sadist.
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I left my invasion finger on while I did the dlc. I have every grace explored in the base game and I'm level 116 with +25 wep and couldn't find a single invasion in 1 hour-ish
is PC died?
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Holding an invader's head in the toilet while I flush but I just took a diarrhea shit in the tank.
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>>502190348
On what, seamless?
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>>502190513
regular
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>>502190580
Oh I misread, I thought you meant like triyng to get invaded
Tbf like right now is right when americans have gone to sleep and like when europeans havent woken up yet, so its gonna be the least busy right now, but like yeah invasions are a lot, lot rarer nowadays
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>>502190198
You dont have to say that
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>>502190157
the thing is he probably would help, and even clean and disinfect after, if I asked him nicely, but he makes me very happy and fulfilled so i have no need at all for that kind of thing anymore whatsoever
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Mountaintops is Hyperborea
https://youtu.be/XKa6uh4wkCU?si=izdp_BCjrfEQ2aku
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>>502191835
>what did this giant tree stump look like
A big tree
next question
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ocular spiderweb is up
was a little more active than lately at the colosseum today, lots of new names, fewer shitters even
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>>502192032
Whats that?
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Does Sekiro let you customize MC head and use different katanas?
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>>502191981
Actually the Great Roots sprouted from the shoulders of giants
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>>502192559
>Does Sekiro let you customize MC head
No, but there's 3 costumes you can obtain by completely certain challenges
>and use different katanas?
No, you can get an Odachi but that only works with a sigle special attack
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I have found an interesting video about how the timeline of Marika's betrayal of the Hornsent might not coincide with the creation of the Erdtree itself, but rather Golden Order Fundamentalism, as shown by Fundamentalism removing spiral iconography from the seal and statues

https://youtu.be/AyhgFzRgsew?si=U3-YEtNr80r2RWn8

It matches with the Land of Shadow sharing culture with the rest of the Lands Between and not being locked until much later with Marika/Radagon union.
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just gooned to Marika again bros....
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What the hell, the R2 is so fast now
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>>502197576
It was always my weaponfu, now it's even better
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good morning /erg/
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>>502201895
good mornyan
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>>502198660
>It was always my weaponfu
Based, mine too
>>502201895
It's like midnight
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>>502204186
SEA?
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>>502197576
>>502204186
I don't even know what weapon that is
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>>502204284
STRAYA
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>>502204446
Miquellan Knight Sword
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>have week off work
>playing some elden ring through the day
>game is fucking dead
It's over why does it take so long to get summoned for jolly co-op now...
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>>502205880
What RL are you trying at? I want to get back into co-op
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>>502206154
150, I can see markers on the map and I have pretty much all the summon pools active but its taking me ages to get summoned. I've given up a few times and just played as a host instead and summoned phantoms.
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>>502206278
Ah ok. I always found it easier to try at low-mid levels. At 150 it always felt like everyone had finished the game and just wanted to summon for ganks or to fuck around. Are you finding lots of signs as a host at least?
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>>502206580
Yeah I still get signs when I play as host it takes a bit longer, but it tends to be much faster at weekends I find, which is obvious I guess. Arena is still very active but I don't really play there much I find it a bit dull.
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Elden Ring is so fucking retarded with its cosmological prioritizing.

Staring at the moon is more intelligent than staring into deep space? Really? REALLY??? Is Miyazaki a Sailor Moon Uber femininity fag or something?
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>>502207794
It's probably because the moon is implied to be an intelligent patron, selective about who gets to behold it. All sorcery is alive, or acts like a living, seeking form of life, in-general, however, and npcs like Sellen and Ymir even say as much. The Eternal Darkness sorcery attracts spells like flies. Azur's signature sorcery might actually be more quality than Rennala's own, since it takes up three spell slots—and there are only 3 three slot spells in the game, DLC included. I really don’t think stat costs are a foolproof method of assessing prestige, and it’s like assuming Bayle is above the dragon lord because his spell costs more. Gravity spells are also the most massive, or obnoxiously potent, compared to spells above it. Astel’s Meteorite puts Rellana’s Twin Moons to shame … lol … the latter couldntake out a small village, the former literally buried a continental civilization. It is the true rain of destruction.
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does anyone have a checklist of shit to do at the start of an ER run? things that you can do before fighting a boss, basically
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>>502207794
>Is Miyazaki a Sailor Moon Uber femininity fag or something?
Always has been. Ever since the first of his butt babies (yes Dark Souls) he is on record making the moon a feminine sign. Seath and Gwyndolin are associated with the moon, and both are seen as bitches.
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>>502208804
>Seath and Gwyndolin are associated with the moon, and both are seen as bitches.
how does it FEEEEEL seath?
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>>502208538
I don’t know why people think Rennala > Azur/Lusat when their staves actually end up becoming better than her’s at high Int + Mind, especially when used together.

Do people actually complain about costs of spells? I very rarely do after getting to 60 Mind. Flasks constantly refill.
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A lot of shit has changed since the DLC forced people to level up the ass compared to the base game
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>>502209269
that's a lotta mind
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>>502209779
I can spam 10+ Comets and it’s hilarious seeing people panic roll in tight corridors. Primeval shit demands high Mind, and it’s even said by Sellen at one point. “I want to open up our minds”, or something.
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>>502210003
I want to do a pure INT build, teach me your ways anon
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>>502209269
>60 mind
are you fucking stupid lol
and what level is this?
inb4 300
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>>502209269
If you want to co-op or do duels hitting 60 mind means you're sacrificing a lot of something else. I played a level 150 mage build 80 int and 30 mind was enough but lusats staff burned through FP way too fast in co-op its only really good if you're playing solo. It's probably okay in duels I guess as you don't need to last a long time.
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80INT
Moonveil + carian shield/carian regal scepter

Simple as.
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>mfw powerstancing the sword of st. trina and the velvet sword of st. trina
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>>502212378
very breedable, thank you.
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>>502210572
Duels are fake ass shit. Real combat is situational, and environmental. Solo play with the tongue is the way to go for PvP. Sorry. None of this honor crap.

If you want to invade a wizard capable of melting you—and spamming gravitational missile like a fag—that’s on you.
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>>502210116
I’m 179 lol. Vigor is for fags.
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I actually killed Radahn+Miquella on my fifth-ish try spamming Comet, using Azur + Lusat staves.

Outside of PvE, the blue and green tears are hilarious. No mana or stamina spent. Just constant pressure.

Just dump a tank summon and spam.
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>>502209269
>I don’t know why people think Rennala > Azur/Lusat
Do they? Azur and Lusat are one of the few “no you can’t kill them” characters you come across. They’re above you. Rennala is still 100% human.
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Speaking of unkillable characters, who put that barrier around Roderika?

“I can't even govern myself to step beyond the bounds of this ward. Please. You're only wasting your strength.”
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I don’t like the look of the Carian regal sceptre desu
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Rellana is more powerful than Rennala right?
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>>502217331
I think if they were both balanced at the same level, yes, rellana would beat the shit out of her Rennala.
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>>502217331
No. Rellana’s and Ranni’s spells both make it clear that they needed Rennala there for them. Ranni and Rellana didn’t find their moons alone.
>>502217509
If they were balanced they would both be the same sort of build. Rennala is a pure caster. Rellana is not.
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“Like, zomg, her spell is 2 points higher, that means she is SOOOO much better!”

Jesus Christ. You may as well say Bayle > Placidusax because his two spells cost more than Placi’s (three slot) spell.

You guys are fucking retarded.
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>>502217747
I said level balanced dumb dumb. Rennala has zero poise so Rellana would still delete her in no time.
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>>502218209
Nah.
https://youtu.be/56-IKboXvNg?si=dF5U2aHEvRWWGfQY
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>>502218209
>game mechanics
Vyke is like no.2 Tarnished after yourself (with Godfrey being no.0) and he’s just a lousy encounter. How did THAT guy get through the fire giant…
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Miyazaki is such a Carian cuck he would tell you Rellana would beat up Malenia
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>>502218676
Cool he has amazing taste
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Radahn
> get AIDS from Malenia
> get sliced to pieces by tarnished
> get soul-raped by Miquella
> get sliced again by tarnished

Most tragic character of all souls games
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>>502219705
It's also not specific about how cruel any of them were during the shattering.
Radahn could've been on some Mongol shit for all anyone knows.
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Azur vs Lusat
Who wins
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>>502220331
They just sit there.
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Would you participate in this lesson?
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>>502203354
good meownyan
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>>502222095
Thops sends his regards
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>>502184386
?
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>>502224537
schizo shit, ignore him
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>>502039292
The role of the Elden Lord as yorishiro is also blatantly referenced in the case of Godfrey. The guy with a divine beast spirit on him who uses sumo moves. Those stones and swipes, his grabs? All are sumo techniques, plus some pro wrestling. Go compare to any sumo match. But why would they want Godfrey to resemble a sumo?

Because a yokozuna, a sumo wrestler at the top of sumo's power pyramid, is popularly held to be a living shintai (a yorishiro that houses a kami). For this reason, his waist is circled by a shimenawa, a sacred rope which protects sacred objects from evil spirits. You can see the same ropes tied around objects of worship thought to hold kami.

This is also why he changes his name after his final victory. Sumo wrestlers change their names all the time to being good fortune, and have an official wrestling name distinct from their birth ones. SOTE made this basically undeniable with the links between Godfrey and the explicitly Shinto Hornsent. The Hornsent even have a weapon that gives you Hoarah Loux's moveset almost frame for frame.

Unsurprisingly, when Radahn finally becomes a lord, he suddenly also starts using sumo stomps and sumo grabs that he never used before: sumo is as much as religious ceremony as it as a sport. Mohgdahn is the shintai for the newly-ascended kami of Miquella and Radahn much like Godfrey was the shintai for Serosh and the dancers are the shintai for the Divine Beast.
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>>502225593
Are you saying Godfrey should have been fat?
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>>502226506
Does the guy in the picture look fat to you?
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>>502226585
He is clearly sucking his fat gut in.
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>>502226585
The one behind him has moobs
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>>502225593
>the Gates of Divinity have shimenawa on them because they house kami
Friendly reminder that the Hornsent culture isn't a fantasy counterpart that follows a religion based on a real one, liked e.g. the Faith of the Seven takes on Catholicism; they literally ARE Shinto, no bullshit, using very specific words and symbols that are never used by ot about anything else.
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>>502227068
this lowers my opinion of elden ring lore even more
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>>502227068
>mfw all the lore is just real life shit with a coat of paint
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>>502227068
I get what you’re saying, but Belurat (etc) isn’t really Japanese architecture. There’s clearly other influences afoot.
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Hornsent are a mix of western evil pagan bloody zealotry (like the Irish) mixed with Asian religion/spirituality cringe. Is no one paying attention to the accents?
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>>502226694
That's the most attractive body type for foids, muscular dad bod
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>>502227993
Why would anyone waste their time on the outsource slop dlc
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>>502227848
I'm not saying they're not influenced by any other culture. But their religion specifically is explicitly just Shinto. They do the same rituals with the same symbols and same priests referred to with the same words. It helps that Shinto is itself a broad religion with the only unifying factors being a few rituals and a belief in aninimism, which the Hornsent clearly share and base their entire civilization around.
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>>502228616
Animism is a big theme in ER in general. Physics is just fractured life. We all come from the stars and we all return to the soil in the end. Everything is alive—even the spells sorcerers cast. The One Great was more or less the Big Bang equivalent.
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Elden ring feels like like a concept-focused story more than a character-focused story.
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I don't get the soulslikes creators. They create great looking games. Yet there is no substance to them as actual souls games do. To be Miyazaki you just need to read tons of shit of cosmology, philosophy, cosmic horror etc..But no-one does so the games stories just come out as generic war/conflict story without backing metaphysics which is boring.
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>>502229812
and yet the NPCs in the DLC are the only interesting thing about it
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>>502229812
It is 100% an idea nexus. From just wants to do ideas. Why do you think so many themes repeat in their games?

Caria/Lucaria is literally Vinheim, and the big hat preceptors, but also Ranni, keep the spirit of Big Hat Logan alive.
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Miyazaki doesn’t actually care about his worlds the same way George cares about his worlds. The former rushes everything to completion, while the latter is taking an eternity to finish.

They couldn’t be more opposed, and yet they decided to work together?

Literally the only thing about George and Miyazaki that they share is their love for winging everything. “Gardening” as the fat man (George actually lost a lot of fat recently) calls it.

Miyazaki is perfectly fine throwing dragon zombie butts into Lost Izalith. George will never go “okay just drop some lizard men into Valyria and let’s call it a day”.
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The contrast, but also alignments, do rub me a strange way… You can tell that he (Miyazaki) has a great appreciation for George, too, practically throwing in a lot of his books’ shit into the games. The fire monks and their blood sorceries are more or less just red priests, and the Erdtree is one big Weirwood.
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>>502231295
George does not have hundreds of mouths to feed (salaries) and investors and board to satisfy. If he finishes, his work will be just picked up.
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Why are they called ‘incantations’ when you hear sorcerer enemies incanting their spells? Are sorceries also incantations?
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>>502232007
Miyazaki could easily spend an extra year on his games so they end up being, y’know, more complete. As it stands, a lot of his games come across as unfinished.
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>>502232251
No, I'm working on software products, someone is always breathing on your neck and things always need to be out "yesterday".
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>>502231295
>George will never go “okay just drop some lizard men into Valyria and let’s call it a day”.
that's pretty much what the oily black stone is though
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>>502232097
yeah, it's Demon's Souls again
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>>502232531
That’s gardening. He was perfectly fine leaving them there for mystery.

Miyazaki just does shit for the sake of the game. He even said gameplay comes first.
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>>502232456
And yet, Miyazaki spends hours in some booth trying to perfect a crazy guy’s loud ass scream.

He’s only truly obsessive about 5% of his games. Everything else he doesn’t really care about.
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>>502233487
I want him to stop gardening and finish the fucking books
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>>502232097
Magic is meant to be ironic semantics in these games. The same way Christians were dumb, or just arrogant enough to see a difference between their perceived miracles and the magic of other religions. “Your god is not a god, it’s a gay demon!” “Nuh uhh!” etc etc…

The Hornsent incantations are even called ‘sorceries cast as incantations’, implying they went from an intellectual society to a zealous/stupid one. Like how golden order fundamentalists are more sorcerer than not. Probably would have became yellow themed sorceries at some point. Eventually. Thorn sorceries are incantations in disguise.
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>>502233724
Well, he won’t, because he’s on record saying he scraps more pages than he writes.
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>>502234165
He better not kill off Stannis like D&D did. Faggots.
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>>502236838
Stannis will die, but whether he burns his daughter or not, I don’t know. Shireen is supposed to burn, I know that much, but on her father’s orders?
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>>502237947
Oh I'm sure he'll end up dying, but on foot at winterfell against the whole mounted Bolton army? Cmon now.
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embarrassing webm
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>>502240060
Gay
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>>502240060
Thanks for my daily dose of Gaysexium
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>>502240335
>>502240460
>>502240507
Hehe
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>>502240335
>>502240460
>>502240507
Why do you get so mad from seeing someone do a successful invasion
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>>502240626
I'm not mad, I'm just stating facts.
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>>502240686
>succeed at something
>get called gay for it
?????
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>>502240626
Succeeding at being homosexual....
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>>502240819
The sky is blue, the sun is hot, and that webm is gay.
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>>502039292
>>502225593
I get everything except why Radahn was necessary. Why couldn't Mohg be both the yorishiro and the kannushi as seemed to be the case for Godfrey?
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fc?
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>>502244645
Sure
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>>502244645
>>502244960
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>>502246371
Dont you wanna set it to "Any location"? and one sec
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>>502246821
will do
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>>502247471
I keep saying Miquella needs spankings and everyone defends that twerp.
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>>502247579
You should join the fc
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>>502247650
With my board shield and my yari?
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>>502247579
shut the fuck up
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>>502247770
Yeah sure, why not?
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>>502247820
I don't have colloseum unlocked. I think.
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spiderfag you better unlock them and show your butt up
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>>502248040
Its not hard to unlock them if you havent though, just go to these 3 locations, one in north limgrave, one in the capital, one in Caelid, and open them up and interact with the thing inside, then you can go to roundtable and use the statue to queue up
The only kinda difficult one is caelid because you have to beat a few npc fights
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>>502248327
Oh, that. Hold on, coming. Password is >>502246371?
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>>502247471
Is this based on a real video recording
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>>502249148
Yeah. And I can guess the melanin of the thief.
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>>502249296
You’re awful anon lmao
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>remaining fighters : 3
Huh?
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>>502250245
Do "Any Location", not Royal Colleseum, we changed sorry
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>>502250339
DAMMIT
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>>502250425
The Limgrave one is really easy to get to, and if you need help with the Caelid one I can see if you can summon me maybe? Or we can swap back to Royal Colleseum if you'd like
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Can't pick "any location", I'm missing one colliseum.
I think it's the one in Lleyndell.
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There we go, finally.
Also, found D's body.
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By the way, what's an ordalie? A free for all?
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>>502251468
Free for all where you respawn and at the end, the person who got the most kills wins
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>>502251468
u can also drink your flask of peepoo physik and u get 1 red flask and 1 blue
u can also use throwable weapons
also sometimes when y get a kill u heal to 100% after a few secs
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I hate the french
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is that the real lawn
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Yeah I don't get it. Everyone has hyperarmour and manage to hit me when I'm out of range while my hits go through them.
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>>502252749
No, see? You stagger me fine, we're just using a bit lighter armor
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>>502253027
I think my stuff isn't strong. I need a two handed sword.
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>>502253414
I think its fine but it's up to you
I dont really care if I win or lose ususaully
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oh yeah baby we're gaming now
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>>502254221
both of you have the perfume bubble?!
how are these so common?
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>>502254470
don't be coy stupid bastard
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Alright one more and I'm gone.
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tfw when you press L2
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Alright, I'm out.
Bloody hitboxes are all very wonkey, it's less about range and more about timing.
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>>502255639
deepthroat a halberd
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>>502255639
I mean yeah, timing is fun, I love delaying my r1s by like waiting a second to try and rollcatch
Good games
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>>502255716
Not really. I'm dead sure my hits should've connected a lot more than they actually did. Sometimes I hit some bloke, I see their health decreasing, there's bloody, and then it's back to where it was before I hit them.
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>>502255856
Yea netcode isnt the greatest but idk, I had fun
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>>502255639
>more about timing
yes. pvp when everyone has awful net. can’t really space anything
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>>502255961
Yeah, it was.
Also convinced me that going full Miquella for the sword is a good idea, damage output leaves the yari in the dust.
Just gotta block less and dodge more, but if it works, it works.

And also I barely use spells, I should change that.

>>502256169
Yeah, I realized that late, it's really not distance but timing.
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How many years and how many patches has it been and the game still doesn't close properly on PC
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>>502256354
Oh also what level are you?
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>>502254470
I farmed for it
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>>502256354
You get used to it. It was a problem in the pvp for all of the souls games. You can't fix bad connections, but u can adapt by rolling everything.
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>>502256597
Pic related.

>>502256794
That is why I avoided any kind of multiplayer. But AI attackers aren't fun, you just have to start swinging before they're in range and they run into it.
COUGH COUGH just like these blokes in the coliseum earlier COUGH COUGH
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>>502257185
That could also be partially why, atleast me personally Im about 40 levels above that, there isnt elvel scaling down (there should be, fromsoft!)
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>>502257421
>there isnt elvel scaling down
Good lord.
You know, that actually makes me feel better, because I got krumped pretty hard, but I always got at least one kill.
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>>502257185
>40 vig
every time
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>>502257720
I was told it's useless to upgrade it over 40 because of something called "diminushing return".
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>>502257849
for pvp its good to have around 55-60 vig. its nice eto be close to 2k hp.
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>>502256782
where's the best grace to farm for it?
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>>502257849
Kind of, but not useless
You do get diminishing return but it eventually does start dropping off in usefulness the higher you go
Personally I have 60, though if youre not wanting to like care about and get good in pvp, use whatever, though once you enter the dlc you'll probably end up wanting it a big higher anyway
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>>502258086
I mean... I do get killed in three hits by anything in Crumbling Farum Azula.
Yes, dogs too.
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>>502258415
Without knowing your exact setup, I'd probably (personally) move some, like probably like 10? of your endurance into vig
But that depends on your weight setup
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>>502258787
Setup is that I'm like 0,1 away from going from medium load to heavy load. Any small change, and I become Smough, destroyer of pastries.
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>>502258064
giant's gravepost
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>>502258415
typical stat spread is
55-60 vig
25-30+ end
and then whatever caps to your damage stats
mind varies depending on how many spells you want to vomit
you'll end up in the 125-150 range like that.
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>>502259585
Fucking hell, everything I learned about builds in Souls doesn't work in Elden Ring.
I blame Miquella, his butt will pay for this.
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>>502259726
I mean in souls the only differences are 35-50 vig with prisoner's chain or whatever, and then damage stats are around 40 instead fo 60+
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>>502257849
there are multiple softcaps for stats, for vigor it's 20, 40, and 60

you want 60 for endgame, enemies in ER hit really hard
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>>502260242
>>502260226
>enemies in ER hit really hard
Yeah, they do. Endgame ER enemies feel like the DLC enemies for the Souls games.
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Alright, draft ready. Now to start actual writing.
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>>502263141
nigga what the fuck is this
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>>502240060
>elevator tri-ACK
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>>502265567
Hehe
Yeah I just downloaded the video from someone who said it was their first invasion
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>>502263945
A fanfic.
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>return to elden ring for a bit
>try invading in seamless
>spend 5 fucking hours invading non stop
Shit ruleset of the vanilla holds the game back so much
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so satisfying
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>>502266895
they are boring as hell unless you enjoy beating up babies
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>>502267632
Where's your dragon form boyo
You're losing 20% damage
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>>502269310
it's ugly, and you one-shot anyone without it anyway
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>>502269785
No I dont, I dont use that spell
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>>502269310
>kneecapping your poise and defense
lol
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>>502266895
Yeah, the online mechanics of the base game are complete and utter dogshit.
It's single-handedly the reason why these threads died so fast.
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Malenia.
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>>502268083
>boring
Vanilla invasions literally only come in 3 flavors.
Taunter's Tongue duelist.
Scrub host + level 700 phantom.
Gank in one of the designated areas

The only people who don't mind those are tryhards who are happy to use the same 4 builds to fight Chinese ganks with forever.
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Today I will make a new character for casual dueling
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>>502278001
>casual dueling
What?
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>>502279687
dueling in the arena in a casual lighthearted manner
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>>502279786
That's not a thing...
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>>502279838
But it is... I've been doing it for 2 years now.
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>>50227998
I don't believe you.
Where's your webms?
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>>502280050
Retard.
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>>502279986
>2 years
What? How have you been playing that long, the game came out a few months ago
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>>502280114
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>>502278001
I got 16 minutes into making a character and got bored
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>>502280620
Yeee Elden Ring isnt very good
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>>502280620
well i dont really like playing pve so i just cheat engine a build ina few minutes and play arena.
>>502280203
huh...
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>>502280620
100 buckers down the drain
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>>502281154
game isn't 100 bucks wtf..
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>>502281302
base game and dlc baybeeeee
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>>502281384
just uhh get the dlc for free from a friend :D
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>>502281590
Or just don't buy it in the first place ^_^
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>>502280620
>>502280952
not an anti-japan psyop btw
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>>502281886
I fucking HATE Eldie Ring
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>>502281723
but I like pvp also I just blocked the last 20 ppl in a row because shitnet
im just hoping for 1 american or euro
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>>502281938
maddy pls. you have like 800 hours in the game
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>>502281886
FUCK ELDEN RING
ALL MY HOMIES HATE ELDEN RING
>10 hours of horse riding
>60 caves with nothing in them
>awful weapons
>L2 L2 L2
>>502282007
Post build and I might boot up
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>maddy is a chudette
she's so perfect bros
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>>502282050
You dont have to say that, and wouldnt that make me more qualified to say that it sucks?
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>>502282086
I just want to fight randoms to clip stuff. We're gonna fc later anyways and the fc will have shitnet too but it'll be more fun because the people here aren't unbearable.
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>>502282179
no, because you wouldn't play something you don't like for 800 hours, you tsundere
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>>502282179
no, I just don't believe that you actually hate it. just like how you don't actually hate rya
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>>502282393
>maddy is a tsundere
oh my GOD it all makes sense now
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>play elden ring
>It's bad
>play another game
>It's good
Is there a name for this phenomenon?
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>>502282702
dsg syndrome
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>>502282702
"eldogshit ring" syndrome
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I hate hyperarmor. HMMPH.
>:(
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Did we wanna do an FC tonight?
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>>502283178
will you give me a hug and a kiss if I join?
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Is there a way to block all asian country players on steam w/o having to manually go through each persons profile?
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>>502284843
Not asian specific, but you can turn off cross-region matchmaking
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>>502285561
This only works if you live in Japan
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>>502285621
>>502285561
Time to search for a ping filter for elden ring
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>>502285621
Really? I didnt know that
You could try moving to japan then maybe? That might take awhile though to get approval
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>>502286760
>>502286760
>>502286760



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