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Previous: >>502378776

>News
Version 1.3 "Virtual Revenge" Special Program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWZKv08DRvs
Agent Record | Hoshimi Miyabi
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/34802014
Agent Record | Asaba Harumasa
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/34655227

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZvfPRf1-i4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-E2gjaiMhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N_o6OwOyd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcjFp9_0flo

>Upcoming Events for 1.3
Full 1.3 details and events: https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/126603
All-New Program - 06/11 - 17/12
The Mystery of Arpeggio Fault - 06/11 - 17/12
Virtual Battlefield Mayhem - 11/11 - 25/11
"En-Nah" Assistant Program - 16/11 - 02/12
Data Bounty – Combat Simulation - 22/11 - 27/11
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap - 27/11 - 17/12
Help Kai - 02/12 - 16/12
When Sandwiches Come A Knockin’ - 04/12 - 16/12
Advanced Bounty – Routine Cleanup - 11/12 - 16/12

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
HSAHLWFEFE
ZZZ4PC
SGJADSHBF

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile
https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/N1G82uYh
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Trust events
Qingyi
Sons of Calydon
Graphs
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Her game
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night
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>>502411867
*gets mad*
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These threads are too fast for me to enjoy posting in
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I DONT GET THIS GAME
ATK%, DISK FARMING, SHIYU DEFENSE I DONT GET ANY OF THIS
50/50, 75/25, BRICKED, KOTTED, KNOTTED
I DONT UNDERSTAND A SINGLE THING OF THESE POSTS
ANOMALY, DISORDER, ASSAULT, TEAM COMP, DRIP MARKET, LIMITED BANNER, PITY S, SOFT PITY
I DONT GET ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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banging . . . BOOS!
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ENTER
not robbed edition
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How do I get a Venus wife?
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Zhu Yuan? Doesn't have a deep bond with Wise.
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So... Are they gonna let her out of the basement?
https://suno.com/song/f7a06a01-15ce-4af3-ab84-4f05d6999315
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>>502412079
kek
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>>502412101
kinda weird they chose the "boing office lady" character to do all these sexy poses
it would've make more sense if it was jane or idk burnice
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>>502412142
why would they put that line in that event? what were they thinking
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>>502412229
it's called gap moe anon
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>I am unironically having a harder time fighting the Belobog machines compared to anything else in the game
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>>502412143
what is this from im shaking my ass
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Get your free whore
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>>502412043
Stop worrying so much about it and digest small bits of information at a time.
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>>502412447
But you can just directly convert them to gold though?
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>>502412406
they are the worst bosses in the game, least interesting, least engaging and generally kinda bad
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>>502412561
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>502412447
but I want to hoard them
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Gonna say it right now before the probable melty: In the next round of testing they might try to nerf Miyabi's reliance on Yanagi by (maybe) reducing stacks generated by anomaly (maybe from 3 to 2). This would also nerf her reliance on anyone else of course since really Yanagi is the best at proccing shit. They also might try to balance this by buffing Miyabi's capability to stack her shit herself.
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>>502412560
but it costs dennis to do it
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>>502412406
the machines are whatever, they're ultra-telegraphed and you can break their legs. The first time I've had bad time with a boss in ZZZ was Pompey
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>>502412682
Nicole...
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Repostan my Shiyu runs from a couple threads ago for recordkeeping and publicity.
Will attempt new Shiyu today but probably won't be sweating it for a while.
I still have 20 more floors to go through in the Tower.
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>>502412471
Prooompting
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>>502412447
when will hsr implemented this feature.
100 material for one artifact is ridiculous after playing zzz
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>>502412679
That would be ideal, they made Yanagi more versatile by sharing her disorder bonus and putting Polarity on her Ult after all. Miyabi should follow the same design principle.
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I didn't even think the blue triangle was linked to mental illness until he replied to himself. If it's a falseflag it's not effective in the slightest to damage the reputation of blue triangles
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>>502412791
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My canon wife...
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>>502412791
and Zhu
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>>502412714
If you use defense/evasive assists then yeah. But the timings for perfect dodge and skill parry just feels off and unnatural. Its like trying to play a song with a fucked metronome.
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>>502412679
They can always nerf it, not going to change anything though.
M0 Miyabi only generates stacks through Disorders, EX and Ult with Disorders being the most reliable and consistent way. They'd have to buff her stack gain from EX and nerf her Disorder stack gain to 1 but that would kill Disorder Miyabi in general and for what? Just so she doesn't synergize as well with Yanagi?
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Failed my first 50/50 and got Koleda
This game officially sucks my dick and my balls.
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>>502413041
she still gets 1 stack each when she freezes a nigga, with a cooldown of 10 sec which presumably doesn't match the cooldown on freezing
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>>502413189
We love Koleda here you queer
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>>502413189
The last time I saw someone lose a hag 50/50 to Koleda he started spamming CP
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>>502412881
Is S11 ult really better than Burnice ult -> S11 BA spam dps-wise?
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>>502411548
>>502411548

holy...
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>>502413248
I wanted Yanagi after spending several days grinding the rolls for her.
Koleda is fine, but my heart is shattered
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>>502413301
cunnyGODS...
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YUTANE-CHAAAAAAAAAAAN
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>homomasa will unbrick my grace
fucking finally
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>>502412252
devs were bribed by Lucy's dad
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>>502413193
Still doesn't make sense to go that route, they'd have to shuffle around her numbers and redo her early mindscapes completely. Right now almost all her damage is shoved into that Charged slash followed by Frostburn. Her entire gameplay loop is to pull off her Charged slash as often as possible
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>>502413391
She's the best, I can't wait for her.
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>>502413391
What does she smell like
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>>502413189
Koleda is hot fuck you
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>>502413495
peach-scented machine lubricant
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Is 11 days enough for a newfag to get another 50/50?
I'm currently level 31
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>>502413562
post full
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>>502413041
Yeah what I'm anticipating is them shifting stack values around.
>Disorder stack gain to 1
They can try not to kill it completely by just having it at 2, they don't have to completely gut it you know.

But yeah this is mihomo and from experience they tend to overshoot their adjustments like a bunch of retards so yeah what you say isn't at all impossible.
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>>502413207
Why am I hard...
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What's Miyabi best team look like?
I'm thinking of one of these 3:
>Yanagi + Rina
>Yanagi + Caesar
>Ligther + Burnice
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>>502413574
Sure if you just buy packs lol
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>>502413562
If they don't get aged up our revenue is doomed
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>>502413301
canon pubes, including lucy being smooth
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>>502413645
You know what I mean.
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Yanagi's....pussy....
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seth is a really strange and hard to read character. is he autistic?
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>>502413562
>sloppa
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>>502413759
i just hate the fact that he's m*le
i actually like his gameplay/role
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>>502413634
They're not going that route for sure >>502413469 as shitty as it sounds, her M1 and M2 is the perfect fix to what Miyabi fans like you wanted her to be, there's no way they'll change the perfect bait for the average spenders
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>>502413638
I think yanagi + burnice has a shot. if the soukaku team attack is real, yanagi + soukaku is another. i personally want to try yanagi + lycaon.
she just can't get away from yanagi. putting aside 3 stacks for now, the other half of that passive is a fat boost on her charge move when anyone lands a disorder
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Any advice on which wengine to get for my 2nd bp? Already have 1 copy of the lips
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petite woman jumpscare
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>>502413832
why would you hate that
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>>502413849
I mean personally, I'd be glad if they didn't touch her numbers at all anymore. I rolled nagi and I want both of them to be busted together. It's just highly unlikely that she'll go untouched given that this is hoyo.
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>>502413925
I'd pull for her if she was in zzz.
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>>502413574
when I started the game in burnice's banner it took me around 2 weeks of like 3-4 hour per day playing to get around 150-160 rolls.
after that it slows down immensely.
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>>502413391
COMING!!!
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>>502414006
In a game filled with for (You) pandering females wasting a slot on a homo is a waste
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>>502413987
A second lips. The rest of them suck.
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>>502414082
I'm just gonna go through reroll hell and save for ears then since I have no faith in my luck after that
Thanks though
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>>502414118
>sees male in his waifu games
>seethe inexplicably
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>>502414082
I also started in Burnice's roll land lost the 50/50
Basically wanted to give up but then I got up enough interknot level to let me do the flower event (or whatever it was called) that gave me some extra rolls and the motivation to keep going
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>people went from doomposting mibibi to now asking for heavy nerf to her synergy, in a team game.

Kek.
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As a self-inserter, Seth is just furry Cloud Strife to me (in the same way Billy is just robot Deadpool), but shipniggers deserve no quarter so it's my moral duty to dunk on Sethcucks.
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>>502414204
Seethe = /= don't care for. Why would I play with something that doesn't appeal to me at all when the majority of the rest does
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>>502414118
i dont really feel like every character in this game needs to be fuckable
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>>502414240
MIMI-CHAN IS TERRIBLE
HOYO NEEDS TO BUFF HER TO THE STRATOSPHERE
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>>502414237
lol piper sidegrade
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>>502414240
It's the anti-mibibi schizos, we must fight back by asking for BUFFS BECAUSE MIBIBI IS FUCKING SHIT
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I dont have Yanagi(lost her 50/50) or Burnice but im still pulling Meeyabee
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>>502413759
Read his mindscapes. He's unironically retarded.
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>>502414240
Yes that's literally every single banner here, how new are you?
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>>502414287
thats fair i was just curious
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>>502414301
Who said fuckable? Seth looks like a twink, even other existing males are much better. I have no reason to use him when almost any other character appeals to me more
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>>502414485
well you said you like his gameplay so i was confused unless that was another anon replying
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>>502414240
They should've rolled for Yanagi then :^)
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>>502414485
>Seth looks like a twink
you people have no idea what this word means at this point
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Miyabi is 170 cm tall and that's above average for japanese women
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>>502414551
Still doesn't offset anything I said
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still not rolling yawnagi
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>>502414562
He's literally me.
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>>502414592
he looks like a faggot
is that better
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>>502414118
>hoyo game
>for (You)
bitch, other games have marriage and oath. hoyo games have shit.
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>>502414628
That's what you're supposed to do, rolling only the ones you like instead of being a gay metafaggot who rolls everything just to clear le hecking Shiyu
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>>502414619
well you said you like his gameplay isnt that a reason
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>>502414618
>first she was wide
>now she's short
>and her parents are dead
I want to make her smile
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>>502414562
What's this guy's problem?
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Who's the third agent in a disorder of Mibibi and Yanagi?
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>>502414639
Who's responsible for the S6 no bra policy?
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>>502414646
It takes one to recognize one anon
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>>502414592
Compare him to the current released male cast. He looks like a huge fag and is the smallest/skinniest. Billy gets let off on cool factor alone as a robot guy
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>>502414628
Same, xister!
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>>502414758
ur gay lol
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>>502414741
Soukaku would buff Mibibi well and have faction bonus but the ideal is probably Seth or Lucy.
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>>502414741
would be funny if its astra yao (would actually not be funny, i would go broke)
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>>502414791
Stop posting Chinkyi AAAAIIIIEEEEE
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I missed the 3rd item from the arpeggio fault where is it? does anyone knows?
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>>502414757
Soukaku. Yanagi has to cut some costs on uniforms thanks to her gluttony.
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>>502414736
>wide
>short
She's a dwarf?
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>>502414738
He's literally me.
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>>502414708
And? You're retarded if you think for (You) pandering only counts if marriage or oaths are included. ZZZ is panders much more to (You) than their other 2 big games, they're not even subtle about it
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*closes the thread instead of replying to your bait*
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>>502412406
Tethanus is still the hardest for me for the reason that he can run away from you and also when he starts the 3-hit combo, the 1st one almost always hits me, I don't expect it.
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>>502414961
meant for @all
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>>502413759
He basically is. He's muscle-brained and can't seem to understand people, nor make connections to anything that isn't surface level.
He's more of a virtuous riot guard than an investigator, which especially pales in comparison to every single other member of his special investigation squad.
He has talk-no-jutsu, believes in good in people, and his eternal spite of his brother's currnet cynical outlook towards law enforcement makes him special in the head, in more ways than one.
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>>502414936
I honestly blame Fortnite and Genshin for kids like you. They successfully brainwashed a whole generation into accepting so little as "fanservice" and "pandering"
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>>502414717
You might want to look up what offset means
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>>502415078
he probably arrests pedophiles, and beats them to death if they resist, highly based.
oops, did I just say something that will cause a 12 hour melty?
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>>502413898
>if the soukaku team attack is real
Elaborate
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>>502415173
Idealistically me, practically me soon
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>>502415078
thank you for the analysis
>>502415138
i got a pic of some rapper
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>>502414741
rina for hagmaxxxing
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>>502415137
>Genshit
>fanservice and pandering
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>>502415173
dude why
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>>502413391
is she danish
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And anons still have the guts to defend shiptrannies.
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>>502415473
No one defends those subhumans but the cuckposters themselves.
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>>502415473
It's a single shipcuck, aka sethtranny that shits up threads. I don't care whether someone self inserts or ships, xhe still deserves the rope
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>>502413269
>Is S11 ult really better than Burnice ult -> S11 BA spam dps-wise?
Yes, but it's not set in stone.
My S11 has her Ultimate at 12 while Burnice only has it at 8.
Also, my S11 has very good discs, while Burnice is mostly coping.

Aside from those, S11 has slightly better multipliers on her Ultimate regardless, and given equal investment Burnice will never match S11 in terms of direct damage, as she has to build AP and doesn't have steroids that affect her Ultimate like S11's additional passive and The Brimstone.
Then there's Caesar - Quick Assisting S11 during Burnice's Ultimate means she'll be losing 1000 ATK for the remaining duration of it.
By my very imprecise estimations, doing Burnice's Ultimate instead of S11's allows you to fit in one more BA combo, which is not enough to compensate for the damage difference.

However, if you're running Lucy (or some other future support who provides boosts to off-field agents as well) instead of Caesar, your discs are comparable to S11's, and your Ultimate is maxed, there's a reasonable chance that using her Ultimate will be a good idea.
It'll still probably be a net damage down when compared to doing S11's Ultimate instead, but it'll be compensated by giving S11 an opportunity to fit in an EX with full The Brimstone stacks, and, most importantly, restoring a big chunk of Burnice's Heat gauge, allowing for more Afterburn procs/fight total.
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>>502414961
well-timed lol
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>>502414237
Post mono electric and Disorder - Burn please
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jeez at least make the bait a bit more subtle
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Hosibi
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>>502413391
my sexy robowife
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What’s causing this new pag melty, I don’t even see any seth jane image
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>>502415885
I just want easy (You)s, sorry
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>>502415914
momimi
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>>502412406
I struggle with the huamnoid shadow bosses the most. They're too mobile sometimes and two of them at once sucks ass. It's the only time I really want a stunner but Seth is also good for stunlocking them out of a combo or wind-up.
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SNIFF
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>>502412406
it feels like they take 1/3 of the damage when compared to other bosses
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i have no idea what this actually means
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>>502416368
soulless team
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>>502416368
refer to the graph
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>>502416368
The amount of eggs they have left
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>>502416368
body count
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I've been farming phys disc nonstop for the past month and I still got 0 full set for Corin/Neko
It's actual garbage
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must have...
a mibibi
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my c6r1 miyabi funds...
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>>502416528
no amount of skill can defeat father time
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The sound Nineveh makes when you fight her is her laughter at how short Miyabi is.
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>>502416505
Disk farm is terrible in general, I only do it in double drop events. I rather use stamina on leveling up other units than getting a slightly better disk after 50 clears.
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m i b i b i
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>>502416642
erm.. i'm 170cm?? Lady Miyabi is not short!
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>>502416505
ive been farming phys shit for my piper for both 1.2 and 1.3 and gotten absolutely 0 upgrades over stuff i quickly crafted in first weeks of 1.0
but i did get a lot of crit crit disks, i would give it to you if i could
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good night
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>>502412881
I regret skipping Burnice and pulled for Yanagi instead. Fuck
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>>502412406
This + these pieces of shit. I would rather fight 5 Thanatos' at once than fight 2 guardians, holy shit the way they constantly run away while peppering you with ranged attacks is so cancer.
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Why is the spear nigger have no attack indicator for some moves? That's some bullshit
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>>502416505
I luckedshitted some near perfect pieces for Yanagi and S11

At a certain point I've also just accepted that 5-10% more damage from better substats won't matter if they buff total enemy HP by millions every other patch.
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>>502412406
>Attack its legs
>Free 200k damage
>You can do this 6 more times
???
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Lighter's banner is not even out yet and /zzz/ already fatasize about Mibibi's banner. This general might not survive.
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>>502416967
How this general is surviving 6 weeks of Lighter and Harumasa is beyond me.
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Lighter's slow ass banner killed the game
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What did he mean by this?
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>>502417085
Harumasa and Mibi are a new dual banner for the entire duration of the patch
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>>502417085
Homomasa will be free and Meebz is getting a 6 weeks banner for whatever reason
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>>502416871
there have always been enemies that have sneak attacks
dead end butcher has a suckerpunch follow up attack
light rover has the drone suicide bomb
the boss variant of hati has the flip projectile
so on and so on
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>>502417159
to fuck her duh, what else?
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>>502417159
PC feels nothing if you kick it.
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>>502417290
i did this and my i bluescreened
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i never met north again after the commissions
will i never??
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>>502417085
No one talks about current content, it's always either horny posting or leaks discussion.
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>>502416716
No way this is real
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Harumasa's kit
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>>502417721
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https://x.com/theobrobineMale/status/1857476382198215080
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>>502417431
Ever since they ripped apart the game's original design, (for the better or worst) they killed all the momentum in the game ever had. Even if 1.2 was a major update, it felt like a filler one because half of the content was removed to stop the hemorrhage.

Hopeposting leaks is all we have until 1.4.
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>>502417721
>Break (seems like Stun) or Anomaly character to trigger team passive
Can a kit be so radical and beyond sanity?
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>>502417431
The current content was clearable in 1 day
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>>502417363
Your PC orgasmed
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>>502418003
ewww nigga you gay
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>>502418053
>half of the content was removed to stop the hemorrhage.
What did they get rid of?
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>>502418003
wise? 12cm
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>>502418165
TV. It was scrapped hastily, which is why the Sons of Calydon arc only feels like half a chapter.
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>>502418165
The story and dialogues that were integrated into the TV. The TV sections was boring, but half of the plot was in them in the early chapters.
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>>502418442
I really don't get why they did all of their betas, with people bitching about it, launch with it anyways then fucking remove it in 2 patches.
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if you arent a proxy, what paths are open to you? dead end job, dome head gang LARP or rebel enlistment?
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>>502414592
No, YOU don't know what they word means at this point. I swear femboyshit has made yall retarded. Seth is a Twink, is isnt a almost girl one like Venti or Tighnari since he has some muscle, but he is 10000% a twink (Billy is Twunk because of his broad shoulders Seth isnt a twunk before someon says it)
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>>502418565
Every agent has a real job.
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>>502418003
>>502418190
What is this in a real measuring system
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>>502418003
Futaniggers need to be eradicated.
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>>502418517
Did you draw that? Cause that is facts.
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>>502418565
Depends on your ether aptitude
If you have a high aptitude, opportunities might even come to you.
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Mibibi... LOVE!!!
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>>502418637
Whoring isn't a real job, Nicole
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>>502418565
become an accountant. Everyone needs to pay taxes
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>>502418550
ZZZ had to launch and capture a sizable base before the release of Neverness to Everness.
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>>502418649
0.00123533045 football fields
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>>502418565
Wise can easily become a manwhore for sugar mommies.
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aunno, can you be a muscle twink?
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which sjal is this
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Chat is this real
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>>502418904
Sjal
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>>502418565
info broker, hauler, fast food wagie, maid
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>>502418886
Seth Rape
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>>502418550
Because they were hoping faggots would actually get some taste (it didn’t happen).

Shame, man. I fucking loved the Ballet Twins TV modes and the later TV levels they made. They were getting into their groove before it was mostly cut
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>>502418967
All of those are dead end jobs that can be done by bangboos
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>>502418818
So what, instead of reiterating between the first beta and second beta they fucking do it with the game live? You tend to only get one shot, maybe two if you get lucky with generating hype. Just boggles my mind.
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>>502417094
>implying the game will still be alive when the banner starts
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>>502419046
Definitely a bottom
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new pb for blitz
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>>502419079
A bangboo can’t flip a burger or fix a bed, get the fuck outta here. Their hands and legs are too stubby
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>>502411728
My Piper fucking suck I need help. I don't have anything more than what you see in the image
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>>502419079
Who gives a shit as long as you make enough to live comfortably? If anyone on this board tried being a hollow raider they'd probably die on their first mission.
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>>502418565
Male prostitute
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>>502419342
Uhhhhhhhh faggot but I WOULD LITERALLY SURPASS PHAETHON
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>>502419165
Damn, forgot this game is going to EOS next week. Forgot to check my calendar
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>>502419327
>s rank
You're good bro
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>>502419056
I would have agreed with you before this archipelago fault event. I liked TV and it sucked ass. I don't think the programming aspect is bad, they have decent enough devs. It's design, they're all over the place with what direction they want to take the game and they're flopping because of it. This game won't EoS but I'd hate to see it get smaller in scope. I enjoy the setting.
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>>502419046
>sloppa
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>>502419327
Nigger, you skipped Burnice?
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this is some baby ass shit event
i cant make fun of giggers for being minigame impact again
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>>502419327
Post your Piper
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>>502419327
Get Piper on Fanged Metal. Lucy on Freedom Blues. Start with Lucy buffs then parry into Piper. With that team, spam your parry assists.
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>>502419327
S is S, anon.
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>>502419512
Fine here’s non sloppa
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>>502419094
The TV feel like a rogue-like made by a team that has never played one in their lives. It's full of interesting idea and other gimmick but they failed at making the main gameplay loop fun to play. Mihoyo made a big mistake by giving this project to a new team with no experiences.
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>>502419342
commissions are piss easy just be able to fight off ethereals with ease though?
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>>502419459
Man, all of this doomposting makes me want to drop the fucking game. It’s just nonstop misery and uncertainty in this general. Where’s the hope?
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>>502419571
>Lucy on Freedom Blues
whats the point
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I can't believe EOS is in negative six minutes...
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>>502419548
4 Blues 2 fang Rainforest W-Engine
>>502419516
I'm saving
>>502419571
My lucy is 4 Jazz 2 Punk
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>>502419909
why are we on shitforest instead of weeping gemini
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>>502419909
>he fell for the freedom blues meme
Switch to 4pc fanged.
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>>502419815
You're right, I'm being a doomer. The game still has life in it. Tower was a good addition and I can easily see them expanding on it to have element focused types kind of like Nikke's manufacturer towers. They're also releasing nice trailers and I'm expecting the story to start ramping up soon.
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Does Yanagi wear nothing shaped like a "hand" on her body?
Miyabi and Harumasa have hand-shaped belt buckles, Soukaku has a hand-shaped clip on her tie.
I can't seem to find anything like that on Yanagi.
What does that mean?
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>>502419815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc9mQZyUJQA

This is the hope. They put 1.2 and 1.3 on life support and move all the developers to 1.4 to soft-relaunch the game with Miyabi and maybe a Ellen rerun.
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>>502419815
>Actually let other people's shitpostings affect your decision in playing games
Literally mental illness or just NPC mind at this point.
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>>502419342
Anons here would just use their meta knowledge to their own benefit instead of being a know nothing normie
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>>502416907
>Endlessly hammer at one leg the entire fight
>Machine dies before the leg brreaks
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>>502420079
She doesn't. I believe that was the plot point of VR. She's the only one who didn't have it because the ones worn by the others were bugged
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>>502419909
>I’m saving
Do you faggots really not have $50 dollars or whatever equivalent to that in your country a month to spend to get each character? Why in the fuck are you “saving” so hard that you skipped Caesar and Burnice?
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>>502420169
It doesn’t. You’re ironically taking my post too seriously, autist.
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Corin will become unplayable in 5 weeks....
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Woke up lookin' like this
so don't get under my skin
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>>502418862
Yanagi...
Zhu....
Jane...
Piper..
Qingyi...
Rina....
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Just fucking kill me bros...
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>>502420079
Maybe it's because she's the one giving a helping hand? She doesn't need one.
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Is it just me or this patch even drier than 1.1?
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>>502420362
I'm playing her as much as I can now bro.
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>>502420478
Why waste time and effort on a game that is EOS’ing tomorrow, bro
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>>502420179
like what? there’s hardly any knowledge useful enough to apply outside of a game scenario for any meaningful benefit
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>>502420540
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>>502420540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9yxUYRnio
IT SHOULDVE BEEN MEEEEEEEEE
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>>502420191
i do not like this chini
it's smug aura and tiny face mock me
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>>502420596
EOuS will not allow the game to EOS. He will save the day with his kino tower defense event!
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>>502420596
it EOSed several decades ago but we haven't seen it yet because relativistic physics and shit
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>>502413189
You won the 50/50 fag
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>>502420878
where did phaethon source these weapons from. In fact, where does any agents get their weapons from
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>>502413189
>Failed my first 50/50
Fuck off. Most lucklet lose 3-4x already, in a row even
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>>502421032
Yes Koleda glory to Belobog Industries
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>>502420673
>Sell out Wise and Belle as proxies
>Get a fat bounty for being an upstanding citizen
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>>502420540
just like ratatoulie!
except in this case you'd cook some dogshit and then jane would ask you to go order fast food and snacks
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>>502421091
>Large, but Lowkey
>Rat in the Gyatt
What the fuck does that even mean
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>>502421091
i don't speak zoomer
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>>502421157
you just don't have that aura to understand
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>>502421180
you dont belong here, old cunt
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st
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>>502420208
Those were badges with text on them, completely different thing
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>>502421180
Listen to the hip hop you don't stop and the skiing toilets
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>>502421091
Miyabi and piper don't really fit in with the anomaly ladies....
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>>502417721
Is it good?
He's free so is M1 required to unbrick him?
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>>502421180
ZZZ is a ZZZoomer game. You don't belong here
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Who do I need for Haramusa sisters?
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>>502421180
ohio cringe on skibidi
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>>502421454
fat ugly bastard
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>>502421406
We don't have his multipliers yet. His core passive seems to be similar with Ellen.
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sex robot
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>>502421475
belle... please stop...
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>>502421180
>>502421157
https://files.catbox.moe/x0vhe2.mov
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>>502421406
>is M1 required to unbrick him?
Yes, since he has an additional attack with his M1
>When Harumasa's [Falling Feather] hits enemies and activates [Lightning Pots], it will fire 2 consecutive [Alpha Beta Arrows] at the target
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>they're removing TVs
Will they remove the one in the login screen too? It causes me anxiety.
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I have every character except jane and ellen, and my zhu team is still my fastest by far
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>>502421589
i want to kill myself after hearing this
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>>502421126
>get thrown in jail for interfering with defense force contractor work
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>>502421529
needs loomis
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Stage 3 Offensive pretty hard, I still don't know how Yanagoober's EX blocking works. I just switch stances when its safe and dodge if Thracian decides to start swiping, because I can't animation cancel with the EX attack, I think?
Even then, he seems hard to dodge.
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>>502421589
Pompey died for this
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>>502412043
heh I got this reference
goat performance
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>>502416790
But that's the best support anon
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>>502421589
Never post this again
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>>502412043
Shit anime but a goddamn amazing scene kek
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>>502421589
You think if they actually talked like this the game would be more popular?
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can someone please tell me how to check the page for the back in business event? like fuck i feel so dumb, can't seem to find it in menu. here's a yanagi for your time
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>>502421862
I'm forever bricked running mono electric instead of disorder nuke
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>built s11 for fun
>gave her whatever discs
>all of her discs are so fucking sick they are literally missing only 1-2 rolls to be perfect
why
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im gonna say it and i dont care about the consequences

they made yanagi TOO hot. Shes waaaaay too sexy for an office lady. She's like top 2, but no one will care about her in a week because shes just the background character-tier office lady
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>>502421992
Because of the desire sensor calibration when you were farming them. They are essentially the opposite of what you were looking for.
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Green is best
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>>502421940
Sadly...yes. A brainrot faction would sell BIG, no matter how ass each member's gameplay would be.
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Do we still not have Harumasa's full kit yet
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>>502421992
>75% crit rate
Bro, you're overcapping her crate.
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>>502422135
there is. But no one gives a fuck about him. I didn't care enough to save the screenshot either
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Burnice's NPC dialogue sounds too serious
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>>502422107
Idols brainrot incoming. Lock in sigmas.
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Good night bros
I never got spooked by kot but I found a stray cat and took him home, I'm gonna call him nekomata
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Is knightboo better in the zhu team vs resonaboo? Or what team uses this guy
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>>502422135
>>502422213
Bros... >>502417721
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>>502422135
it was posted up above I think but I didn't read it
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>>502422176
>gave her whatever discs
He probably isnt even using inferno metal 4pc
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>>502422254
post a pic bwo
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>>502422237
she's not drunk all the time. Many of the time when you talk to her on trust, she's off nitro. She was like this when she visited neps hq to renew her license.
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Just complete Yanagi's episode. ZZZ is so inconsistent with its quality
>Somehow made the most boring group on the surface charming, endearing and fun
>ENG VA was absolutely solid
>Lumina Square Inception rain map was very atmospheric and badass
>Story premise was cool
>Actually made three unique bangboo models just for the story
Meanwhile
>Phaethon hamfisted as a useless framing device that was not needed in the slightest
>Literally photobombed Section 6 with no explanation so this photo has no sentimental value
>Horrible Machine translated text with glaring issues that are inexplicably missed
>Mission bugged day 1
Really hope they get their shit together QA wise. 1.4 is going to be a fucking shitshow at this rate.
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>>502422176
what can I do?
there's no way I'll ever get a better disc 6 than this
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>>502422383
Why the fuck were we even in that pic? We didn't even pretend to be part of any of the characters' fanclubs kek
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>>502422237
my suspicion that Burnice's true self is very depressed and dark inside still stands
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>>502422383
This is the problem with gachas. They constantly have to shill the next unit so there can never be a cohesive story that follows a fixed set of characters and the “protagonists” can never take center stage because they dont generate money since they arent part of the gacha. So you get wild swings in quality because everything is just isolated story sequences
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>>502422487
I forgot to take pic but if you walk up to the siblings, belle talks to wise about how they should get their pics taken together for giggles
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>>502422383
>Phaethon hamfisted as a useless framing device
Well that has happened 2 out of 2 special episodes we have had so far, so this WILL happen again.
It's pretty much designed as faction-focused story filler. More quality over your average ZZZ event, but is just a standalone story with little relevance.
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I have M6 Burnice, Caesar, and Yanagi and will be skipping the next 2 homos and ugly furry girl
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>>502422383
>>502422573
It's either this or get constantly dicksucked like in WaWiWuWeWo
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>>502422487
>Why the fuck were we even in that pic?
Because people bitched about Jane's story. They probably had this set already so they couldn't adjust much outside of giving us a pic and a couple of lines here and there.
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>>502422628
what about astra yao and idols
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>>502412043
this is that one ramen ad
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yanagi's virginity status?
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>>502422628
thank you for your service
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Kinda want to roll for Yanagi's ball but I don't think I need it.
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>>502422714
she has a child
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>>502422573
I would have absolutely no issue with Yanagi's story if Phaethon just literally wasn't present at all, or actually engaged with the plot at some point. It wasn't even an issue of HOW involved they were, it was an issue of the game acting like they were going to get involved. Literally a section of them at the house
>The news said Section 6 is in trouble!
>Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
>Oh yea! TIME TO SAVE THE DAY! Grab the keys to the car!
It smells of either a last minute change in narrative or just horrible chink translation
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>>502422393
Good shit. Surely there are other discs with at least one wasted roll
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>>502422798
I thought that was an adopted child wtf....
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>>502412406
the thumper has the barely reactable fast slam that always gets me
the other 2 are ok, greta is insanely boring though
the big amalgam guy however is pure aids
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>>502422840
Soukaku crawled into her womb
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>>502422885
Get rid of the glasses and Miyabanagi looks bretty gud desu
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>>502422573
if only there was some sort of...low overhead system which allows a wide range of ways to interact with characters in the story...while functioning as a visualization the MCs main skill that's in high demand in universe.....some kind of...way to have the MCs interact with characters without being there physically....while in live time showing what happens....but itd have to also be a bit abstract to save on dev time for monthly updates.........fuck this seems pretty hard to solve...if only there was a system that already completely solved this....fuck man...real head scratcher
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>>502422573
>>502422383
>>502422802
I wonder why mihoyo moved away from reusing characters in different outfits as whole rollable units...
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>>502418565
>be me
>be Afghan
Freedom fighter time
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idk if its just me but i cant make roaring ride perform better than weeping gemini for my piper
i think it might be good for teams where piper only spins when she has the energy but when she is the main onfielder it is just bad
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Floor 20 is fucking bullshit. I hate shadow Jane's inexplicable i-frame bullshit
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>>502422885
>atago and that hacker girl from persona 5
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>20 pulls for a guaranteed
Save up for meeb?
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>>502422885
Miyabi utterly ruined. Never post this shit again.
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>>502422885
I like this more somehow
>>502422961
gay
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>>502422606
2 out of 2 special episodes that...Holy shit...there isn't....something that used to be here....fuck....is there a connection here??? and you know....we strangely really weren't there often in Ch4s story either...this is weird....guys...I wonder what changed
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>>502423026
at least you still have attack blinkers down there
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>>502422971
Actually made me laugh. Yea HDD was a fantastic narrative device and made the gameplay unique, just needed optimization. But I will say, even with TV mode, Phaethon did next to nothing but go
>FAIRY, CAN YOU FIX THIS?
Every two minutes. They don't even generate carrot maps or whatever they fuck they're called anymore, Fairy substitutes for that.
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>>502422971
It was getting better every chapter too. Imagine how kino an exploration section could have been there. Gotta hackerman into the HIA to save Section 6s brains.

The twins get to interact anonymously too which helps with all the "why don't they get arrested" shit we have to hand wave everywhere else.
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>>502423234
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>>502423234
My wife
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>>502422971
>>502423258
OK MASTA
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>>502423224
Doesn't matter when she does her flip flip camera rape unblockable attack every 10 seconds
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>>502423024
youre supposed to cancel her spin and not use her finisher
using her NAs also give her a lot of energy
also ult on your support and pass the energy to piper
roaring ride would be better than 5* sigs if anyone else could use it
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>>502423378
>youre supposed to cancel her spin and not use her finisher
Why not?
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>>502423234
MAMA
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Man, the new Shiyu shill weather is unkind to Zhu's team.
I think some better discs could still allow to one-rotation the boss, so a sub-minute run should still be possible.
I don't know if ~2 disorders you can reasonably trigger on the boss is enough to build up two Ultimates to use against it. If they are, then maybe Ulting it at the very start of the fight is a good idea.
I couldn't break any of the faggot's legs even once, btw.
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>>502423260
It really was, everyone universally agrees Ch 3 TVs were the best by a lot, and even some tv haters enjoyed ch 3 TVs relatively. Its such a shame, I know they won't but I'm deciding myself to believe the Ch 5 ultra triple double down on TVs out of nowhere
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>>502423456
it wastes a lot of energy especially if youre onfielding her
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>>502423260
>People bitch and cry TV mode is too slow
>Devs panic and remove it from main story quests
>Story and Phaethon now feel disjointed and players realize the gameplay cycle of "Talk to 3 NPC's, Run down Hallway, Fight, Rinse, Repeat" isn't faster or more fun
The next step in the master plan
>Players complain only attackers get to use Ults
>Devs panic and give all units their own decibel reserve
>Game devolves into Ult rotation spam and balance is truly fucked
>Players realize they could have just played Genshin or HSR if they wanted to sit and watch attack cutscenes the entire fight
I admire their willingness to adapt on the fly to user requests, but I also think they need to learn to tell the userbase to fuck off when it comes to core design philosophy
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>>502423234
I want to hug Miyabi and grab them from behind while her large ears tickle my face
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skill issue
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Wow that's awesome how she can just ignore your ultimate's damage and anomaly buildup at random like that
Great boss design
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>>502423485
A lot of complaints I saw was that they held your hand too much. They devs REALLY don't trust the intelligence of their players or want them to figure shit out. Look at this event, it's piss easy to the point of tedium.
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>>502423378
i know all that, but i simply lack damage to kill in one stun with roaring ride, with geminis it is fine
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>>502423550
>Devs add back TV mode via Arpeggio
>TV fags AND non-TV fags complain
Fuck offfff
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>>502423648
anomalies have a cooldown
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>>502423550
The real problem is that they just reacted TOO fast to feedback, and because of that they got a lot of it that was just from gacha game tourists that would quit the game to go back to their main in a month no matter what they do.
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>>502423724
Anon that's very very clearly the beginning of the fight
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that was fast. You're /here/ aren't you.
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>>502423737
This, imagine if we kept the content we already had and everything was just pure kino. Then it got even MORE kino.
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Anybody have a screenshot of the Miyabi fangirl in the comic panel cutscene?
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>>502423550
WAS REMOVING HALF YOUR GAME PART OF YOUR MASTER PLAN???
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is amusing to me that for a short period of time Mibibi was a cop
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>>502423550
I think the lead devs REALLY want the game to succeed. When the game didn't launch as well as they hoped they started panicking and started making changes to try and gain momentum. Mibibi will be when they sit down again and try and figure out what they're gonna change.
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>>502423656
I hate that shit too but I don't blame them. Look at Genshin, the second they cranked up puzzle or combat difficulty all the casualfags bitched and moaned. No post Inazuma all gameplay is beyond brain dead and you never feel engaged.
>>502423705
Only complaining about an optional gamemode is an absolute retard, people also bitch about the tower. Gachafags, gamers in general for that matter, are notorious for being unhappy no matter what.
>>502423737
Agree'd. The shit like playing as agents and QoL knee-jerk reactions were great and surprising. When they reassured the TV mode would be taken out of main story it was kind of alarming, but the story can still be enjoyable. Then them breaking out decibels is a read flag they're giving into player feedback way too fast and hard.
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>>502423984
>they decide to add a litmus test of forcing Miyabi wanters to roll her M6 for maximum super flashy effects
If there isn't an outcry from this with 1.4, the ZZZ devs truly have nothing to worry about, and they know it
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WHY the FUCK does the game just randomly decide to skip my next character in line and swap Rina in when I want to parry? It flashes fucking orange which means it's a parry attack, I don't want to swap in to do 9k damage on fucking Rina. What the fuck?
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some of you guys seemed to have forgotten this dev team stubbornly pushed on, and released the game with TV despite tons of negative feedback during beta. They were given their chance to direct their vision. But now that they have failed, they have no card on table and a higher level executive is likely forcing them to listen to anything player majority is telling them.
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>>502424136
If you've been swapping around a lot, one of your characters was likely finishing an animation. You can't swap to someone who's still lingering on field.
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>>502424202
higher level executive
>make it into genshin
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>>502424136
It was an attack that can only be countered with an evasive assist (dodge that grants bullet time). If you didn't have Rina in your team it would appear as a red flash, since it can not be countered with a defensive assist (physical clanking parry animation)
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>>502423737
People were dropping the game at a incredible rate because of the TV if they had to remove it completely and produce a whole interview to announce it.
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>>502424164
I'm a 28 year old guy with a receding hairline, not a cute anime fox girl with big boobs...
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>>502424136
I can't remember if there actually is two colors since I'm sort of colorblind, but I think there's a yellow, an orange, and a red tell. Yellow means parry assist, orange means evade assist, red means you should dodge.
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>>502424136
https://youtu.be/601qaJ807J8?t=240
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>>502424332
There's not an orange flash. There's just yellow or red.
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>>502424317
He's saying you're the fan dumm dumm...
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>>502424202
Which is strange because the QoL and general acceleration of TV mode has been fantastic. TV mode wasn't an issue itself, it was having the control and camera RIPPED away from the player every few steps. It was also loading into a combat scenario just for it to end in 15 seconds and load back out. The entire flow of TV was fucked and they were slowly but surely making it so much better.
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>>502424276
And 99% of those players are not going to come back. First impressions are everything. What they're doing is gutting the core of the game to chase some imaginary returning player base at the extent of what they currently have. They set up 1.4 as a soft relaunch of the game with how they talked about it in that interview, if it turns out the changes are not actually that popular, then things will REALLY get bad.
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>Yanagi transforms into a lighting and can blink to do a calldown strike
Miyabi's sword bullshit can be excused as technique and rule of cool, but this pink bitch is basically doing magic. Same for Ellen's and Soukaku's ice. Koleda and Rina can have kinda-plausible sci-fi weapons too.
Yes it bothers me. Yes I know it's autistic. But it still bothers me. They're not corrupted either.
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>>502424276
You can't make everyone happy with a game. They are trying to hit numbers that aren't possible with a game that is love service and not multiplayer straight up. The execs using Genshin at its peak during Covid are delusional to think they can keep that many players ever again without a game with AT LEAST 8 years in the tank.
Unfortunately though they have to keep unsustainable number go up mentality of the current era
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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>>502424458
Yanagy is just super duper fast
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>2.0 will bring dupes boosting, units past M6 will grant 1.0% extra stats for each dupe
>Co-op will be added to Shiyu, you will be able to bring 2 units for up to 3 players
>The menus will be replaced by TV kino, starting by 2.0 the Video store will be transformed into TV exploration, all areas should be finisbed by 2.3
>3 hour long corridorslop will be released per chapter, get your W keys ready
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>>502423737
>The real problem is that they just reacted TOO fast to feedback
Fuck off
They received plenty of feedback about how bad early game was during testing and they didn't do shit with it
We're 5 months into the game and we still can't run around Eridu with all of our characters and this is the most basic feature in a gacha
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>>502424459
>love service
this is true, I love this game
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100% winrate on w-engines
lost 1 50/50 on character banner

the secret to really enjoying a gacha is literally just be lucky
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Do you actually need to roll Yanagi for any comps? That's what I'm confused by
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>harumasa is actually free
KEK
is the game really doing this badly?
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>>502424579
No.
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what the fuck
but that's me fr tho
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>>502424579
not really but also kind of sort of? shes way a bigger upgrade over grace, than jane over piper, for example
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>>502424438
seems like they forgot it themselves
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>Complete Event Stage
>Check score
>Get "3st" place
Holy shit, bad translation is one thing but this is fucking embarrassing.
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>>502423862
See >>502424626
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>>502424416
>>502424626
God I wish that were me
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>>502424579
She's objectively better Grace, can be a de-facto attacker for Electric, is designed around massive disorder damage and Miyabi REALLY wants disorders
Technically not a mus anywhere, but the difference with and without her is noticeable.
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>>502424679
Anon, that says "Best". It displays your best time.
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>>502424626
can I suck on your big tits bwo?
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>>502424416
Nice.
>>502424626
Thank you bros
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Booom
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>>502424679
It actually says 3fst, short for third first
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>>502424459
The ZZZ dev are in direct competition with the other Mihoyo projects for funding. Every dollar invested in ZZZ is a dollar taken away from another venture. They have a year before the launch of the next MHY game to show they are worthy of that dollar and right now the answer is a resounding no.
I love ZZZ and I'm sad about the current state of the game but the fact that Yanabi has a better momentum than the SoC as a whole despite 1.3 being worst than 1.2 show that ZZZ still a juice left in the tank if the right choice are made.
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>>502424902
Jane AND Piper? 5 BIG BOOMS!!
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>>502424458
My headcanon is that is the weapon doing the lightning meanwhile something that actually explains the the blink-overhead teleportation attacks is her just stopping time, the description of her W engine says that she can stop time very briefly, that's why she has a clock on the naginata, also she has to constantly correct the time on her watch because time dilation
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>>502424438
>"hahaha zzz is for furries"
>play game
>still no playable anthro women
pulchrasex when?
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miyabi shits and pisses
she even has periods and gets diarrhea when eating something bad
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>>502424679
You see this kind of thing a lot with graphic/UX designers working with a language they don't know, they'll just do things because it's aesthetically cool because they don't know it makes it really hard to read
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>>502424416
>shoes off
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>>502425040
hot
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>>502425040
Is her pee highly concentrated like a cat or is she more human in that way?
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>>502424783
bro?
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>>502424980
It's only not worth it if they're not getting any new money in. It's not unreasonable to think that there are people who didn't like Genshin or HSR but like ZZZ. If Tears of Themis and Honkai Impact can stick around, then I don't see ZZZ going anywhere.
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>>502425040
I will only feed Miyabi Indian food
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>>502424679
People like you are why we get Comic Sans or similar fonts for ui elements that looked cool in the original version
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>>502425001
wish they could dab into the timeshift stuff more
we'll get absolutely NOTHING except for like 5 seconds of a cutscene
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>renewed my hrt monthly even if i hate the game now because someone here said monthly pass is like stealing from dawei
I'm being gaslit...
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I just realized lighter is ez-skip in general because you can get spooked by a koleda or a lycaon if you are f2p. No idea how strong he is as your main deeps as solo but your definitely fuck if you get koleda prior.

>inb4 grace
Heh, yanagi is the one odd one out since she can proc disorder on her own and goes well with grace in the team.

I'm just gonna wait for the first limited support at this point as f2p. That shit is definitely gonna have team regen/heal/decibel gain buff and we are gonna explode when that guy drops.
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>>502424980
>They have a year before the launch of the next MHY game to show they are worthy of that dollar and right now the answer is a resounding no.
You're talking about "Snatch-Your-Weave Heaven" the AC rip off right? Because that is not exactly in direct competition. If anything they'd cut losses to reinvest in whatever project they have cooking up 3-4 years down the line. But like >>502425162 said, it ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
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>>502424276
Her hair looks like a giant schnozer beak
Is Anby jewish?
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>>502425306
>starts spending just because someone said to
You people are like cattle.
You are ants beneath the boots of f2pGODs.
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>>502425162
Yeah but the production COST compared to ZZZ then we are expected to get bland updates soon... like your cheap chinese slop quick cashgrab of a game.
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>>502425306
please tell me you are being fr
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>>502425306
buying 2x packs is also stealing from dawei.
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There's no toilet in Wise and Belle's house so I don't think people shit or piss in the ZZZ universe actually
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When do we get more agents of this body type?
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>>502424626
>No male simps for Miyabi
>No female simps for Harumasa
Homogame
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>>502425476
Idols, bro. Soon.
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I'm gonna steal from Dawei
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>>502425470
no need to go to the toilet in a virtual world
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>>502425307
Ligther buffs and shreds both ice and fire attributes. That should tell you that he will become meta later.
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>>502425470
Maybe they shit and piss in each other's mouths
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Do I slap AM or ATK for 6th slot on Yanagi? I'm coping with Fusion Complier
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>>502425162
ZZZ will be put on life support like HI3 and maybe have a big event from time to time like the HSR x HI3 crossover but it's not going to be the same anymore and empty update like 1.3 are going the become the new normal.

The real question is how thing are going to change once Neverness to Everness is released because it compete with both ZZZ and Genshin at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eguKZyaDyQM
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Wtf, does Burnice Agent story actually give you 300k dennies?
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>>502424579
If anything she can fill your f2p cope teams any combinations of Haru/grace/anby + yanagi then you can also cope with yanagi+soukaku
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I need some input from hoyo veterans. In the other games, did some characters become easier to obtain as the roster expanded or do those games still have the same few easy to get characters they had at release, with every subsequent character being just as hard to obtain to this day as they were when they were brand new?
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>>502425656
your sibling spends all of them on crypto
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>>502425565
He's a stunner though
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>>502425651
>All those NPC tier character design
lol
lmao
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>>502425501
>Soon
liar
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>>502424980
>The ZZZ dev are in direct competition with the other Mihoyo projects for funding
And yet they have 3 more in the pipeline, supposedly. If their games really compete for funding, they either need to slow down or reassess their strategy. The west has never been one to spend a lot on gacha, and Japan's economy is currently in the shitter. That just leaves Chinese players, which so far by every metric we have (as unreliable as they may be) indicates are spending less on the game than Japan despite their low spending power right now. This also goes into something like what this anon says >>502425162
Genshin, HSR, and ZZZ all have very different gameplay loops and styles. This allows them to capture multiple audiences they otherwise wouldn't have. Reworking ZZZ into a weird hybrid between Genshin and HI3rd is counterintuitive to that strategy. Imagine if they suddenly decided to rework Genshin to be turn based because HSR sells more. I don't pay much attention to sales data because I don't care, so I don't know if that's true, I'm just stating an example. But that's the level of stupidity of this decision, you're giving up a market niche and because of that allowing the potential for someone to come along and potentially steal your players with a game that does things better. Instead of completely scrapping the elements of your game that make it unique because "people don't like it" you need to find the actual reasons for why they don't like it, because it's almost always the result of flaws in the system rather than the system itself.
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>>502425668
Genshin has only ever added two 5* characters to the standard banner ever. All 4* get tossed in there.
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>>502425565
Yeah but will you have enough rolls after? One would skip the ice chick and wait for the fire addition, hell you might get baited too for the potential support in between
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>>502419245
>bangboo can’t flip a burger or make a bed
Bro your Butlerboo?
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>>502425668
I assume you mean the acquirability of standard vs limited characters. It largely remains the same. Genshin did have a slight pity rate adjustment though but that's like 4 years after its release
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>>502425668
>did some characters become easier to obtain as the roster expanded
Yes. Like what happened to Honkai Impact 3rd, just wait for Zenless Zone Zero Part 2
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>>502425651
>The real question is how thing are going to change once Neverness to Everness is released
That is not remotely an actual question. And it's not a question for when Project Mugen comes out, or when Tower of Fantasy or Wuthering Waves came out. Don't get me wrong, I'll give them all a try and have some fun with them. But people have got to get a better eye for differentiating these kinds of games.
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ONE DAY AND ANOTHA DAY
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>>502425801
>Yeah but will you have enough rolls after?
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>>502425668
Shenhe from genshit hasn't had a rerun for one year and eight months already.
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My Yanagi isn't 11/12 in all skills yet but I didn't want to wait anymore.
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>>502425892
bro your 3 s-rank polychromes?
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>>502425895
lol, thank you for funding the game for me, I'm still f2p coz im poor
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Yea, I'm thinking you can you can leave Floor 30....
TO BILLY KID!
THE ST ARLIGHT KNIGHT!
it will be up soon
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>>502425941
bruh
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>>502426046
Meh, it's less than 1 pull in total, I'm not spending more time on it.
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shiyu collector anon if you're here, what's your policy on solo runs?
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>>502425443
Yes. HRT is homowanking for FOUR patches in a row. I hate Boothill and the chinese homos and there is no likeable character since Firefly. Fucking cuck game.
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>>502425651
lol NTE is nothing burger and this is coming from a ToF player, this shit botched as fuck why? Because they're porting their stuff into ToF for testing grounds and its shit. The only redeeming point of this game is to be less stingy than ZZZ.
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>>502425909
>C6 Shenhe on her second banner knowing an Ice DPS relying on autos would be cracked with infinite buff
>Shenhe is never seen again
>C6 Wrio on his first banner because he is the perfect combo
>He is never seen again
They seriously must be pretending cryo doesn't exist until they figure out how to bring it up to snuff in Shnez.
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Miyabi should commit soukaku
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>>502426158
I add them like all the others, because people wanted their solo runs in the sheet. Though I'm thinking of ways to mitigate the impact they can have on average clear times. I might change from average to median as a whole, because that also lessens the impact whales have on them.
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>Harumasa is an on field attacker without too many gimmicks
Sirs... I might actually redeem...
No idea why he needs stun though.
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>>502425909
>one year and half

What the fuck bros are we unironically brick when we don't roll for fotm characters?
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>>502424520
>dupes boosting
Fucking kek. Has any game done that? Feels like you could really sink some whales with that.
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>>502426465
Yes. We fucking told you to roll for Jane and Caesar
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>>502425651
>Neverness to Everness
I know close to nothing about it, but from the the trailers it looks like they are trying to do a million different things, it seems like they lack direction.
My guess is it's going to end up a mediocre mess of systems.
But, if they nail the "GTA gacha" somehow and it's good more power to them, I'll play it.
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>>502426465
>>502426506
You don't need to clear anything but the main content
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>>502426458
oh shit, harumasafags we are so back after the wengine fiasco. Rina woman the counter we gonna save up and build this guy to a T.>>502426458
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>>502426465
Does Hoyo just pick and choose randomly which banners get rerun?
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>>502426563
NOOOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS AND BUY MY JANE ACCOUNT NOW NOW NOW NOW NOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!
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>>502426534
From the creators of the hit game Tower of Fantasy™
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One day another day
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>>502426614
They have a strategy to reruns to try and milk as much money as possible. If there's a new character coming that pairs really well with an old character, they'll probably rerun the old character about the same time the new one releases. This is why some people are expecting Astra Yao to be a Nicole replacement, because her banner will run around the same time we can expect a Zhu rerun.
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>>502426563
It won't be as fun without the limited characters
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Haramusa saved Chingyi!
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>>502426791
>already moving goalposts from "brick" to "won't be as fun"
This is why metafaggots should be castrated
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>>502411728
Just started the game so total noob
Can I manage to get the slutty secretary in time or should I just give up?
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>>502425853
Genshin is still the king and can afford some competition and crush them but ZZZ is not in the same state and is still fighting against itself on which direction it should go. It doesn't need that competition right now even it the comparaison only exist on the surface level.

>>502425784
Yeah, Mihoyo probably going to need to reflect of their strategy pretty soon, the market reach its saturation point a while ago and they can't continue to release new games targeting the same pool of players. China in general is pretty new to game development and that's the main problem, they lucked out with Genshin by remaking BOTW in anime world but they lack the insight on how to make games fun to play. The fact the made ZZZ in it's current state is impressive I think.
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>>502426690
That's another thing I miss from the TVs, the music dropping when you got into a fight. Now it's just kinda lame.
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QRD on Haramusa kit?
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>>502426458
He seems to be more flexible than other attackers and make attacker+stun+anomaly viable which is amazing. I don't know how it works in other Mihomo games when they give out an S rank character, does he get added to the standard banner or will he have its own limited banner/rerun?
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>>502425030
Half Ether corrupt waifu when?
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while Jane/Burnice/Lucy is still insane, this team takes Disorder to the next level holy shit. Yanagi's skills are still under 10 but everything simply disintegrate
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>>502426846
12 days is cutting it close, you'll need to play a lot. You definitely can get to 50/50 but guarantee? Not sure.
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>>502426742
>Astra Yao will cater towards my 1.0 attacker
If anything Astra will pair with Miyabi or Faggotmasa, Zhu Yuan is dead unless Astra Yao gives decibels to attackers or something similar.
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>>502426846
Look at the upcoming characters, if the next few don't interest you as much you might as well try and throw everything at the wall.
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>>502425714
>>502425853
>>502426234
>>502426534
NTE will probably be an underwhelming game at its release but if you think the C-suite at Mihoyo do not watch this game closely and are making some choice based on this game existence, you're wrong.
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>>502422498
a certified (non)alcoholic
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>>502426483
ToF did, you get extra 3% final damage in certain dupes. They put it on the characters that is equivalent of archons in genshin.
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>>502427020
Mono Yanagi with Fusion Compiler and Rina is also retarded, I shaved 1 minute from the 3-a-week boss, you do like half those niggas health with Disorder on EX + Ult.
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Revenue doomposters are so fucking retarded lmao
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the absolute ego on these pajeet shills
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>>502426949
In Shart Rail Dr. Ratio has not even had his first rerun in like 258 days while characters like Potaz and Jing Yuan have gotten/are getting their 3rd run.
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>>502424482
>the euro hrt poster has woken up, how about you stop ritual posting?
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>>502426614
Not really. They're savvy about when to rerun characters, including 4* characters. People will often roll on the banner of a 5* that they don't really want in order to get dupes of a 4* that they really want. And certain characters are "made an example of" so that people get FOMO. Hoyo is good at separating people from their money
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they should completely move all ZZZ players to PC and mobile only, give incentives, and continue to drive players in a much more combat intense game like TOWER

moves are already happening and the Chinese market is READY
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>>502426853
>It doesn't need that competition right now even it the comparaison only exist on the surface level.
I mean I would agree, but my point is less "a game won't threaten ZZZ" and more "why are morons hyping these ToF 2.0 games"

ToF/NtE/Project Mugen are absolute soulless messy slop that will be flashes in the pan and no actual threat to anyone. I guess I wouldn't categorize WuWa with these since it had a little more staying power than I expected, but even then WuWa from day one appeared to have tighter focus and design than these other dumbass examples. Even if its story introduction, dialogue, voice acting, optimization, and setting were all abysmal.
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>>502427071
Ughh they will counter it by releasing a new game? Zzz formula is dead its time to consume the new stuff. Hell I'm not interested in the new open world slop that grifts you in exploration by giving you 10 pulls a patch.
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>>502426614
less desired characters, mostly due to meta, will get delayed and delayed since there's no gameplay meta to suit them.
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>>502427319
So they might delay Zhu's reroll if the anomaly ether unit ends up being hypercarry? ChinkYi and Jane are getting rerolled for sure.
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>unironically enjoy the setting
>at risk of getting over-corrected to EoS

Oh no…
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>>502426742
>This is why some people are expecting Astra Yao to be a Nicole replacement

Nicole is already kinda cracked pairing with ZY for a 4 star

Astra will have to be absolute bonkers, for me to even consider pulling her and ditching my favorite whore
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>>502427290
>move all ZZZ players to PC and mobile only
did you mean PC and consoles
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>>502427134
I have Rina (from the first newbie banner) with her signature but she's still M0, so I'm actually unironically hoping I lose a 50/50 sometimes to get M1 since it's such a massive QoL.
I want to try it tho - Yanagi/Rina/Seth but I would need to farm a Thunder Metal Set.
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>>502427414
oh right I had a brain freeze teheperopero
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>>502427379
You thought we were allowed to have nice things you absolute fool?
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The boss fights and combat system is not polished enough for shit like tower and it shows
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Leave the VR Simulations... TO HIM!!!
https://youtu.be/5cmQuh3Aij0
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>>502427410
>Astra will have to be absolute bonkers, for me to even consider pulling her and ditching my favorite whore
>rework ult system so that Zhu can no longer ult in the first stun
>she can no longer one cycle because of this
>release astra who gives decibels to the whole party to fix this
Gacha games aren't new to creating a problem just so they can sell you a solution. You can also expect her to do everything Nicole does with something extra thrown on top like 10% pen ratio just to be sure, probably even a generic 25% damage amp instead of just ether so she's more universal.
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>>502427221
>And certain characters are "made an example of"
What is that supposed to mean?.....
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>>502427535
Noooooooo you caaaaant
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>>502427379
Just people dooming, don't worry about it and just enjoy.
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>>502427468
skill issue
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>>502427375
The game is not in a state where mechanic > element weakness. Like if ether anomaly agent is released, zhu can prob take decent advantage of the endgame buffs as well. So until that script is flipped, I wouldn't expect a particular rerun to get indefinitely delayed.
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Chain attacks manual or auto?
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>>502424368
the fan was a fox girl with big boobs, dummy
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>>502427620
Not an argument
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>>502427468
While I think you're partially right considering we're on 1.3 and they're still reworking fundamental gameplay systems such as ults, I also noticed Tower was the first time I couldn't just mash brute force mash my way with dodge/assist spam and you're probably just feeling that.

Even SD and HZ I have just been clicking as fast as I can and occasionally process Shift/Space/C because that's all it called for.
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>>502427703
That's for triggering chain attacks right? I do auto.
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the ass is fast
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>>502427661
Auto
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>>502427605
They don't get rerun within a reasonable timeframe. Typically in Genshin, rerun 1 happens in around 6 months, 2 in 8 months to a year after that. But in some cases the reruns are nowhere to be seen, and that makes people FOMO into buying characters/dupes that they would have otherwise waited for
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>>502427468
The Tower clicked for me when I started playing the way I would play Dark Souls.
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I love them so much.
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>>502427661
I don't think anyone actually uses manual
They brought it back from the beta but I find it too clunky, you can just cancel out of an auto chain if you need and it gives you time to breathe, there are also a lot of moments where you wouldn't notice the enemy being staggered if it wasn't being triggered automatically.
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>>502427630
They have hardcore tweaked buffs, "Current Shiyu is weak to electric" go clear with Anton and Grace and see that the more you use Grace and the less you use Anton the faster the buff applies.
>but muh weakness
Same deal, she might clear in 1:45 but a team dedicated for the shilled unit will clesr in 1:30 or less no problem. They have to give homomasa for free as Yanagi already fills that niche, same with Zhu, if the ether unit clears faster then there's no reason to put glorified ether Anton on rerun, because that's what she is right now, stun window burster.
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>>502427881
Turning your brain off when the boss hits 10% health and dying?
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>>502427468
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>>502427782
Is this how to play burnice correctly? You just deplete ex then switch out? What about the after Burn kit, how do you even trigger that?
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I have an extremely scuffed team because my Rina is still unbuild and I don't even have a Shock Bangboo, but hey it worked well.
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Yanagi's probably a freak in bed bwos
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>>502427468
bwo? Your Billy Kid?
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>>502427424
You can swap to Rina while Yanagi is ending her last basic attack and then quick assist through EX or worse case scenario just cold swap. Rina M0 isn't that bad.
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I noticed Seth provides a fast and easy shield to the previous party member after assist parrying with him and pressing the quick-assist button. Does anyone know if this shield provides the same +anomaly proficiency effects as his ex skill -> hold attack -> assist switch combo?
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>>502428062
when burnice does any sort of an attack while her gauge is more than 50 or to put it simple, shining yellow, afterburn is applied. To fill up the gauge, you use her ex. So in essence, all you need to do is to use her ex. There are some minor mechanics you can use depending on situation such as: holding basic will make burnice twirl and apply anomaly faster at the cost of gauge, or burnice's basic has immense homing range so it's easier to jump to an enemy before switching.
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>>502428062
Not really, it's more about consistency, managing fuel to keep the the afterburn running, but for a quick kill I wanted burn to be applied to I could immediately disorder it.
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>>502428291
resolve is resolve
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Is it worth taking Lucy to 60 in disorder teams?
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>>502428335
Fuck yeah. Thanks.
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>When there is a [Support] character or a character of the same faction as the team, the damage caused by [Normal Attack: Frost Moon] is increased by 50%; when any character in the team triggers the [Disorder] effect, Hoshimiya gains 3 points of [Frostfall], and during the next [Frost Moon Stance], [Normal Attack: Frost Moon] will ignore the target's 25% ice resistance.
Mibibi's passive changed from requiring anomaly and faction to requiring support and faction.



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