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Usual Suspect Edition
Previously on /coopg/: >>502575028

>Latest News/Updates:

Darktide: Hotfix #51 (1.5.4)
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4539157321628805552
Darktide Released Slop : https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Commodore%27s_Vestures

Vermintide 2:
VERSUS IS OUT
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/versus-is-out-now-free-new-pvp-game-mode-patch-6-0-0-hotfix-6-0-2/101222

Helldivers 2:
Patch 1.001.102
https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4679892274020252125?snr=2___

Wartracker:
https://helldivers.io/
Info:
https://divers.gg

Deep Rock Galactic:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/

Space Marine 2: Patch 3.0
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696781406109497749

Payday 3:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1272080/allnews/

Remnant 2:
The Dark Horizon DLC releasing SEP24:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1282100/announcements/detail/4657374275884538366?snr=2___

Earth Defense Force 6
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2291060/allnews/

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Left 4 Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
The Forever Winter
No More Room in Hell 2

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>502748059
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>>502747840
>not an elf thread
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>>502748790
previous thread wasn't an elf thread neither
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>>502748885
two wrongs don't make a right
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Ogryn's base toughness should be 70 like with zealots.
Honestly it's so weird that fatshark nerfs ogryn of all things for "being too tanky", ie. the job it's supposed to be doing.
Especially when they then go ahead and change the skill tree around so you can't get the 10% TDR node anymore.
And on top of that they nerf the delight in destruction from 10% to 8%.
And this is already after Fatshark nerfing ogryns main toughness regen talents, smash 'em and best defence from 25% to 20%.

But then they leave shit like VoC and Shroudfield alone and don't touch them despite how broken they are as abilities.
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Darktide?
More like DarkTRASH!
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>>502750137
I gotta be honest, i'm barely feeling the ogryn nerf
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>>502748616
Legendary meme
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>>502749995
Cute girls
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>>502750137
Ogryns base toughness being higher would make me feel less bad about skipping the +25 toughness node. As it is I can't skip that shit, it's borderline required now so it limits his builds a lot
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>>502750304
It's easy to play around, I got like 1200+ hours on darktide and 95% of that is on ogryn, so I can easily adjust and adapt.
But it is really weird how fatshark deals with with nerfs.
Ogryn is supposed to be the over all "tank" class for the game, but whatever reason fatshark constantly shaves off more tankiness.
Which isn't great because eventually if they nerf ogryn more they'll just make him a class that's a worse version of veteran or a worse version of zealot, which just isn't fun.
Giving ogryn back toughness regen, like revert the smash 'em and best defence nerf back to 25% and buffing their base toughness would be fine over all.

Despite these buffs, in high level you would still get absolutely shredded by gunners and other shit as an ogryn if you play badly and in a dumb way.
Basically I'm saying "give me something instead of nerfing the only things I use", because that's what it boils down to.
The reason why people use the heavy toughness regen talents and such is because the other talents suck and are worse.
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Felenid update when?
:3c
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>play dueling sword/laspistol zealot
>nobody cares
>play dueling sword/laspistol psyker
>people leave the pre-game lobby when they see my loadout
Stop bullying me, gunpsyker is good! It's good!
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>>502750137
>Especially when they then go ahead and change the skill tree around so you can't get the 10% TDR node anymore.
I was wondering what happened with my builds being one skill point off. Fucking weird that they do this stuff. Why don't they want the small nodes to actually be worth picking? There's one worth picking and they move it out of the way. The fuck man?
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>>502751895
>Despite these buffs, in high level you would still get absolutely shredded by gunners and other shit as an ogryn
Considering the fact that the ogryn is a better melee class that zealot, i think it's fair that their size/strength should come with a weakness
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>>502750179
Does your mother know you have cropped porn saved to your device?
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Has anyone noticed a bug with heavy hitter? Sometimes when I have other buffs rolling the heavy hitter buff never shows despite chaining heavy attacks. Does this mean they aren't counting towards the penance?
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>>502752279
Yeah, they switched the places between 10% TDR node with +25% suppression node.
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I talked to a playtester and the highest ranks of Havoc are mostly just difficult because they cut your max toughness by 75%. If you don't know the effect this has, basically every melee enemy now strips your toughness in one hit and all the attacks with toughness damage overflow will hit you for extremely high amounts, like crushers and maulers. Shooters and gunners will also pin you in record speed, which means no more sprinting and shit.
The meta in Havoc play will be psykers with shields, and classes with extreme toughness regen (since going back to 100% as often as possible is huge). So more VoC spam basically (which they won't nerf since it's vet's core identity) and maybe zealots will be spamming chorus.
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>>502752715
>source
>my ass
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>>502752658
Don't use bleed.
That slowed down my progress so much until I realised it. It went quite fast-ish after that.
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>>502752715
>Toughness lowered
>Regular shooters already fuck up my sprinting with normal toughness
Fuck...
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>>502752658
>heavy hitter buff never shows despite chaining heavy attacks
Nothing to do with it, it's only a visual bug with the buff UI.
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>>502752607
>Considering the fact that the ogryn is a better melee class that zealot
Only thing ogryn does better than zealot is crowd control, since zealots can easily surpass the damage output an ogryn does in melee.
And if you're a good zealot CC shouldn't be a problem for you at all either, depending on what weapon you use or just how well you play in general.
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>>502752658
it means the icon probably just isnt showing which happens with every ability
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>>502752715
It really fucking feels like fatshark is having a piss with these updates and nerfs.
Especially if this is real, VoC is blatantly over powered and makes veteran more tanky than an ogryn.
>ogryn doing it's job being a tank and tanking damage
>"lets nerf this, it's too strong"
>Veterans spam VoC 24// keeping their and team's toughness up constantly making them practically unkillable
>"yes, this is balanced and completely fine for the game."
And this is just gonna get blatantly worse because of Havoc if this leak is correct.
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>>502747840
>max mastery on zealot dueling sword
its certainly a strong weapon that is a little finicky but makes up for it. now i can go back to my love the combat axe.
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>>502753013
My ogryn damage averages around 790k per mission, a zealot can do more damage, but the CC that ogryns provide is much, much greater than that of a zealot that's doing similar damage
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Maps!
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https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/425
there are now mods that fix bugs for Fatshark, thoughts?
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>>502753601
Wait, i've been going the wrong way this entire time?
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>>502753672
Fatshark is the new bethesda.
Who's our swedish Todd?
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>>502753601
I never understood the complaints that some maps were "in reverse", because when stacked this way its obvious that the rejects are just travelling to the same sectors and some of the roads intersect.
It adds a little bit of life to the zones, the problem is factory corridors are boring so it only really works in Throneside and the Carnival.
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>>502753532
They still should get some of their tankiness back.
Hell, I'd just be happy fatshark buffed the base toughness to 70 from 50.
It wouldn't make ogryns overpowered but it'd make them more comfortable to play over all.
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>>502753902
I wouldn’t say they’re *that* bad
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>>502754039
I think it's not a good idea in this setting because it makes you think
>wow, small world huh? this is that same intersection
but then remember you're supposed to be in a fucking hive city with literally 90 billion residents and apparently it's a small world and you keep coming across the same places? 40k, ESPECIALLY hive cities, should be the polar opposite of "small world". New york city has 9 million people in it and you can eat in a different restaurant every day until the day you die. Tertium has 90 billion people in it, it's like 10'000 times bigger but you keep coming across the same fucking train station apparently.
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>>502754189
I certainly wouldn't complain
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>get shot 1 single time by a dreg shooter while playing psyker
>90% toughness gone
Why does every other class get OP toughness DR talents but psyker, the class that already has the lowest toughness and worst toughness generation talents, gets fucked in the ass by every single chaff shooter in the game?
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>>502755581
>worst toughness generation talents
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>>502754461
It makes sense because those are the sectors the dregs have taken, though. The entire hive city hasn't fallen, wasn't there some mention ingame somewhere that there are whole swaths of the city that doesn't even know anything is happening?
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>>502755959
Even still, it's a bad idea because it makes the hive city feel small. They should have been many unconnected maps instead of a ones that intersect in the same place all of the time.
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>>502755581
You play psyker
You literally regenerate toughness just by existing
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>>502755959
Yeah but I feel like you're not getting the intended scale. If literally 0.01% of the city is taken that's still as big as new york city. It makes no sense to keep coming across the same streets, it's just laziness
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https://www.vermintide.com/counter
did we get the rewards ?
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kerillian vs me
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>>502755581
one thing is that dreg shooters are stalkers, which have a big multiplier vs toughness. Dregs don't have basic rifleman like the scabs do.
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The party finder in darktide is actually serviceable if you want to get penances done. It'll take a while to get 4 players but a premade team with a clear idea of what needs to be done actually does get them done. I got my penances done, and I think I'll use it to help other people get those shitty private penances done too.
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>>502758127
they were the bane of my existence when the game came out, pinky toe out of cover and you'd be stripped of all toughness
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>>502750137
Its probably some semblance of balancing around his high base HP, plus he has innate damage reduction (health or toughness cant remember) against ranged attacks, and also push back from said attacks.

The issue with ogryn imo isnt with his base stats, but his base playstyle. Its kind of funny how in order to balance his stagger force they had to reduce the overall damage of many of his weapons, yet other classes can just... Well kill the tough enemies. It really does feel like im just swinging a wet noodle a lot of time as the ogryn, especially if you dont spec into the left side. Also his dodge and weird cancel into attacks is very off putting, and i say this as a level 150+ ogryn.
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>>502755581
Psyker can passively regenerate toughness in all sorts of way though. He might not have toughness damage reduction but nothing will stop you from stacking all toughness and regenerate all it back whenever you build or lose peril.
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Anyone notice a large influx of people completely refusing to mark specials? I think the wave of new players don't understand how important marking is.
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controller wouldn't be so bad if they put dodge on left bumper instead of A, by default you have to attack, aim, and dodge all with one hand curled doing the crab claw.
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>>502756752
at sex?
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>>502766545
I don't mark because I want green circles
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>>502766683
no, it would still be pretty dogshit
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>auric maelstrom, 20% CDR
>Gun Ogryn with shield
>Psyker with purg and flame shriek
>Psyker with trauma and flame shriek
>Psyker with electro, smite, and some
Easiest fucking maelstrom of my life, most enemies didn't get a chance to even stand up
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>it's another "2 people get blown off the map by barrels in the first 2 minutes into Clandestium Gloriana" episode
I hate this rerun
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>>502755581
Slide motherfucker
>You have insane toughness regen on tree
>Force sword can BLOCK BULLETS and with kinetic deflection you can block everything in the game that isn't a mauler/crusher overhead for insane amounts of time
>Flame shriek, dome, and assail are all incredible anti gunner tools
>Empathetic evasion can make you literally immune to gun fire permanently in the right build
>33% toughness from one single node on the tree
This has to be bait, right?
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>>502767329
didn't happen
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>get netted once
>game lost
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>>502768079
i got out of bed to prove you wrong anon
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>>502768897
uh sis?
you're dodge button?
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>spent the evening grinding psyker penances
I fucking hate smite so much bros
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>>502768897
>gets netted
>ever
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>>502769010
doesn't work in midair
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>>502766683
Controller is fine you just need practice
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>shopclick
>damnation
>players are literal bots but somehow the game is still too easy
>damnation high intensity, preferably shock troop
>sweet spot of challenging but don't have to tryhard
>also really rare to find a fucking mission for
>auric heresy
>absolute shitterfest of retards trying to get the penance and cycling through alt+F4s every 2 minutes
>auric damnation
>roulette odds, players are either hypercompetent, or literal dead weight
>auric maelstrom
>wait 10 minutes just to get a group of 3 useless psykers that go down every two picoseconds if there isn't a shout vet
>don't have friends that give half a fuck about tideclick games
How do I have fun?
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where do you equip rat cosmetics?
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>4 beasts of nurgle and a chaos spawn
wew lad glad I wasn't playing for most of this event
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wtf is his problem?
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>>502769980
Sounds like you are also getting carried anon, so, in that case... Get better
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ook everyone look at what the fat tranny said in his snide tranny gossip channel on his trannycord look look look
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>>502770780
I'm definitely not good enough to effectively solo because the other 3 players are drooling retards, but being the literal only one doing anything to the stupid boss event spawns, and me going down being run-ending half the time suggests I'm not getting carried.
But I'm not delusional and definitely could do better.
How the fuck do I improve though, if there's no way to have fun? Do I have to change my mindset to assume I'm literally always on my own and completely disregard the other players or what?
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>>502764159
>Its kind of funny how in order to balance his stagger force they had to reduce the overall damage of many of his weapons
Except for in 2 weapon categories, the pickaxe and shield
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>>502769891
Wrong
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>>502771012
I think 3 key items to consider are:
>Don't sacrifice yourself because your team was stupid.
Most runs end in snowball deaths. Don't sacrifice another 1-3 people trying to save the one idiot in a bad spot
>Tailor your loadouts to cover your weaknesses and constantly tweak them
If you often notice one thing is a constant problem for you, fix it. As a psyker, I am squishy as hell, but I've started running deflector Deimos with kinetic deflection and I've noticed a nice bump to my survivability. Try to find your weak spots and shore them up
>ALWAYS make sure your loadouts and you as a player can handle 3 things: horde clear, dangerous specials (bombers, flamers, trappers foremost, snipers, hounds, muties to some degree), and carapace units. Those are the biggest run enders, so if you can cover all of those, you're in a good spot.
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>>502769891
yeah it's fine alright... for sedition
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>>502771505
The frustrating thing is that I already do these things. I don't even consider builds that can't deal with the things you listed to be usable in the first place.
>horde clear, specials, carapace
I ran a couple really shit builds a while ago after just getting back into the game again with the new itemization update, and there were things I couldn't deal with. That's when I had the most wipes because I physically wasn't able to carry in some bad situations (and then it turned out nobody else was able to fill the gap).

>just came back from an auric heresy game
>xbot goes down before the drop and starts bitching
>other players start bitching at picking up a grimoire
>it takes 3 of them nearly dying in the process of bringing capsules from the train while I casually solo the other one
I was surprised at how easily crushers died because I never fucking play heresy. This is torture.
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>>502769571
happened to me
trapper pushed me up a ledge and the team wiped
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>>502769000
>receipts and digits
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>>502770613
only 4? i had 6 in the first couple rooms
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>>502770613
Did a hab dreyko earlier where you're running along that pipe walkway to get to the valkyrie, director spawned a beast on the far end by the valkyrie.
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>3 veterans on the team
>none of these tards are shooting gunners/specials
>die after clutching multiple times and team falls apart because beast of nurgle spam inflicts unavoidable corruption and inevitable gunner 1 taps me at 20 max hp
I just love a zero telegraph grab.
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>>502775186
>just love a zero telegraph grab.
Anon... it grabs you when you've been puked on...
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>>502775186
the telegraph is that it's near you, you're slimed, and it's not currently in another animation
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are you proud of me bros?
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>>502775186
I love this gif so much
Also you suck
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it appears there's a hard cap for marks lmfao
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holy
was this ever good or did they just decide to gut it at birth?
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>>502775989
It was always this bad
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>>502775989
gutted at birth
it is unironically pretty good if games are so hectic and fucked that you would never get a revive off otherwise. Like if things are so fucked not even VoC spam will help people survive. Only that never really happesn unless you do haphazard retard speedrunning on auric maelstroms and trip every single anti speedrun spawnfest (this is fun so we did it). I suspect it will see use on havoc
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>>502775989
It's situationally useful but kind of a bad talent overall, the reason VoC is super OP is because of how spammable it is. Turning it from a 30s CD to 45s just so that maybe once per match you can get some value out of the revive isn't usually ideal, however there's nothing wrong with running it if really want to.
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Is it even worth taking Burst Limiter Override when I'm Roombling Gungryn? 8% chance to not use ammo seems painfully low for such a low ammo count weapon in the first place.
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>>502775989
always mid. only useful when the person you need to revive is being shot a fuck ton and gold toughness can't save you
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>>502776649
It can be fun when you get a lucky streak and put out 2-3 rapid free grenades. But it's only really worth taking with a Ripper because the entire burst is free, giving you more bang for your buck. Also as a cute trick you can milk free shots at 0 ammo with any full-auto fire,
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>>502771290
Pickaxes are generally great, but the shield is only good for its H1 and maybe push attack. Im a bully club enjoyer, esp the mk1 and mk2, and while they have some interesting synergy with bleed and stagger they still have the aforementioned issue. Shovels are similar, though with exception to the old shovel. I just wish he was more responsive, and i dont mean fast. His stubbers also have the same issue with the fire delay and input que. I hate it.
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>>502770706
a few of his viewers went into tantan's server during this apperently, i think they all became friends and played darktide too lol
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>>502776649
Mathematically no. The expected value you get out from this is hilariously bad. You get what, 30 nades? Thats like 2.4 grenades my dude. Youll have to be slurping ammo all game to even get some semblance of value out of it. If you do want to maximise lugger though youd want to get as much critical as you can so you can leverage good shooting. With the stubber theres such thing as the crit string which results in multiple consecutive crits (i think its because lucky bullet doesnt occur simultaneously with regular crits, so they dont cancel each other out?). Dont think it works with other ranged weapons though.
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>>502776649
It's fun when ti does proc but it's really not great over just using feel no pain
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>>502776649
no, but gettign a free shot when you're out of ammo is fun (if you spam click when out of ammo, it can still trigger lucky bullet)
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>>502747840
Tannergods, how we feelin?
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Homo above me
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>>502778856
NYOOOOO YOU CANT JUST SAY THAT FUCK U
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how do I stop using the combat knife after being accustomed to it while ranking up a zealot, I tried going back to the combat axe I was using as psyker and was incredibly bewildered at how slow I was
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>>502779627
Use the shock maul
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>>502775989
In most situations shouting and immediately going for the revive will give you enough time to pick up a teammate while everything is knocked back. If you REALLY need some extra security you can throw a shredder grenade too.
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Why is burst limiter override about giving Ogryn free ammo when it could have been a bonkers fire rate buff instead? If it has to be free ammo, best to keep it simple and just give you infinite ammo for the duration of the ability. Then it isn't an ability that stops working when resources are scarce, unlike every other ability in the game.
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So can I play as a rat ogre in Versus or is there no point?
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>>502780071
3bh the crit node should just be built in
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>>502775186
is jonkler ok?
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>>502780071
*keystone
Brainfart, but its a keystone that is build entirely around the ability directly above it.

>>502780398
Maybe make the crit be overflowed to the next if the shot rolls a natural critical by itself and also triggers lucky bullet.
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...do you think my Zealot is cute?
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I'm so fucking tired of all the redditors begging for duelling sword nerfs because they're too used to taking garbage feeling weapons that take forever to kill things like the dclaw. All because they've played Darktide for thousands of hours already so if they're not bringing the most dogshit unusable loadout into true solo auric maelstrom it's "boring".
Was ratclick like this too in its heyday? A few tryhards having way too much playtime to the point of asking for their tools to be worse because they aren't challenged anymore by a PvE game they mastered, and their sycophants just parroting their opinions?
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>>502779627
play vermintide
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https://youtu.be/9PKZ_bgCpfg
>tanner
>but not a faggot
Finally the chosen one
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>>502781415
shut the fuck up slut
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>>502780071
They should've made it so it gives you an infinite magazine for the duration with no need to reload or ammo consumption. Then they should've actually balanced CDR in the game so that wouldn't be beyond fucking retarded OP with no compare
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>>502781246
they should buff the other weapons, not nerf anything. Knife isn't even good, it's just not shit.
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>>502777549
>Pickaxes are generally great, but the shield is only good for its H1
It's a good H1 and it's faster than the pickaxe
>bully club
It's fun, but it's damage, outside of monster damage, is just not as great
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>>502781246
yes, jsat comes to mind
they got rid of unlimited ammo, they got rid of ammo back on shotgun bashes(shotguns were bad already), wigglemancer(which was meh), chaos wastes boons, they sucked a lot of fun out of vt2
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>>502781246
>>502781874
>they should buff the other weapons
yes let's turn everything into armor penning, rager destroying, special oneshotting, high mobility, high attackspeed, high CC powerhouses that can also kill hordes
Surely this will make the game more varied and fun. Kill yourself, platitude niggers. Think about the shit you say
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just nerf dueling sword
shit is too easy and too meta
faking ninjas
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is hellkino winning anything this year?
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so what are the scenarios where the tactical axe is not a meme
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>approaching two year anniversary for Darkshite
>over the course of TWO (2) entire years Ogryns have been given... two new weapons
>3 if you count the folding shovels I guess since they're distinct enough from the base shovel
Ogryn was a mistake.
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>>502782040
Dumbass retard, no one's asking for the heavy sword to be able to kill crushers and maulers, or for the helbore to be able to horde clear. But there's several other weapons that aren't even good at what they're supposed to be good at like the autopistol or cleavers, or they straight up suck and have no identity like the power maul.
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>>502783227
>But there's several other weapons that aren't even good at what they're supposed to be good at like the autopistol or cleavers
skill issue
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>>502782964
Yeah but pickaxe with slaughter headtaker is genuinely so cracked it makes up for 2 years of nothing, Veteran desperately needs a stubber equivalent autogun or hotshot lasgun
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>>502781905
Yep. I like them for their versatility but they dont excel outside of monster damage
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>>502782040
Dueling sword has shit attack speed, no CC, and low stamina. The rest are true.
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>>502780071
A simple fix to BLO would be to increase the rate of it happening from a flat percentage to a flat number plus percentage. For example, instead of just 8% it could be (10 round + 8% total ammo) % chance of not consuming ammo. Or if they are feeling adventurous they could also set the chance for each individual ranged weapons. 8 or 12% is honestly too low even for the stubber.
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>>502780596
>overflow
Pretty sure thats what crit string is
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>>502784753
Is that the term? For automatics crits apply to a certain number of shots. However what I mean is the excess crit roll is banked for the next number of shots.
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I noticed the Weekly Expedition for Vermintide 2 gives the Daggers of Bitter Dreams again. What happens when you clear it when you already have it?
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>>502781246
how about rather than insist the highest difficulty be made into complete baby mode you simply lower the difficulty after the dueling sword gets nerfed
>b-b-but just buff the enemies and every other weapon
1000x as much work for the same effect and is guaranteed to have unintended consequences, that's retarded.
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>>502778801
Goodly. Played darktide with tantan after he got off stream with Mr E, was funny as fuck
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>>502778801
>>502785513
Kill yourself, tranner
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I just came back to Darkshite after an entire year of absence
Redpill me on these crafting changes, did they finally make it possible to just make the fucking items you want like in Vermintide yet or not
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>>502785839
You can relatively easily make the items you want, it's just somewhat costly but you get loads of resources from damnation games anyway.
Make sure you do the event, you get like 4k diamantine from it. It spawns like 8 beasts of nurgle a mission, so be prepared for boss kill, the other retards won't be.
Check your inventory screen, there's a mastery tab now, it's important.
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>>502769980
>don't have friends that give half a fuck about tideclick games
Make friends that give a fuck about tideclick games, obviously. Post friend code here or something, don't be le scared.
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>>502781415
Man, the ending of this was so fucking bad. Why are mangaka so bad at making satisfying endings.
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>>502785839
i barely put in 150 hours before this update because the rng system before pissed me off so much
this new system is 1000x easier
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>>502785839
You can get exactly what you want now. The expert players of the game are waiting for red weapon update.
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>>502785796
Take the sissy pill, you'll be SO much happier playing darktide that way anon :)
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>>502786650
>expert players of the game
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>>502775989
I think it can be worth if you have two vets with shout. One vet spamming shout is usually enough to keep the toughness up and you don't want to overlap it anyway. Trying to not overlap it usually leads to both vets holding onto it thinking the other guy uses it or instantly using it at the same time.

But yeah I have zero clue why they just gave it so many downsides right off the bat.
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>>502778356
>healthbars
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>>502786413
Is it MHA? Spoil it for me if you don't mind, I dropped it anyway.
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>>502786662
>tranner is a groomer too
No surprise
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>>502787003
Deku loses One for All. There were no real consequences for anything. All of the major characters who matter survive. Deku becomes a teacher who is still a loser and a cuck that cant do anything for himself. He was gifted a million dollar battle suit so he could become a hero again without having One for All.

It's shit, looking back the signs were all there from the beginning.
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>>502785839
In addition to making crafting completely customisable, you can upgrade weapons to increase their base performance. More importantly, more blessings have been reworked or changed to be more impactful. There were also a bunch of weapon buffs.
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>>502787628
join the server and play darktide with us :)
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A pack of 6 crushers are walking towards you:
Vet: Shout + Dueling Sword (+Krak/Shredder)
Zealot: Bolter + Dueling Sword
Psyker: Smite or Purg Staff and run away
Ogryn: Bull rush past them to let your team kill them

Did I miss anything?
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>>502788183
>Vet: dueling sword them to death
>Zealot: dueling sword them to death
>Psyker: dueling sword them to death
>Ogryn: shield heavy stunlock them to death, or pickaxe special stunlock them to death
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>>502788183
>lists dueling sword for Vet but somehow not for Psyker
?
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>>502788246
my bad
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>>502784918
To my understanding its more like the latter, but in effect its not too different than the former. Heres a vod of claysthetics showing this.
https://www.youtube.com/live/yknd8T4w_C0?feature=shared

Go to 3:41:03 and he explains it
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>>502788073
>troon pfp
every. single. time.
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>>502788431
Go to 3:40:00 for actual demonstratiom >>502784918
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>>502787884
I was more concerned about some random shit being added to it like some new epic abilities of previous owners, that's when i dropped.

>He was gifted a million dollar battle suit so he could become a hero again without having One for All.
This sounds retarded.
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>>502786898
>tranime
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>>502789678
>low iq baby using cheat mods hates anime
Color me surprised.
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>>502790910
post stats
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>finished all weapons and class penances except zealot
Any tips on crusher & heavy eviscerator, or zealot in general? I'm comfortable playing aurics, just incredibly rusty.
Also is there even a way to do the loner penances without effectively fucking griefing your team?
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>>502789678
anime website
you are not welcome here, go back to whatever shithole you came from
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>>502791031
>anime website
what is /a/ for again? :)
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>>502791071
Tranner, 4chan as a whole is an anime website.
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>>502791031
>>502790910
>weebs shit their pants and stomp their feet
typical
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>>502791071
for discussing anime.
it would, in fact, be a more appropriate place for you to demonstrate how assmad you are about it.
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>>502791442
>2015
you don't belong here, anymore.
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>>502791398
you got triggered by a simple reaction image and people are laughing at you, that's all there is
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>>502791442
You ok friend? You seem very angry, maybe you should try tlaking about darktide, that might change your mood!
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>>502791006
>Also is there even a way to do the loner penances without effectively fucking griefing your team?
No, playing like a retarded faggot and abandoning your team at every opportunity to go for ranged enemies is the optimal way to finish that penance.
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>>502789678
chiming in to say you don't belong here, the kind of nerd who got banned from reddit for saying nigger so he came to a website he hates just so he can say it here
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>>502791759
why did you reply to him 3 times?
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>>502791615
too bad i don't give a fuck what a mouth breathing tourists think
either stop acting like a baby or you will get shit on every time :)

>>502791696
>tlaking
if your hands start shaking even on anonymous imageboard, maybe you shouldn't act all tough when you know you can't handle it?
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>>502791917
>too bad i don't give a fuck what a mouth breathing tourists think
good, then you can stop derailing the thread now and quit having a fit
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>>502791994
>redditbaby gets triggered by reaction image
>gets shit on
>p-please stop shitting on me! it derails the thread!
holy shit you are pathetic.
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When is the new pigslop in darktide?
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>>502792353
welp, enjoy your vacation then lol
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>>502792417
>ahhh i'll report you and you will get banned for being rude!!!
holy shit you are even more pathetic than i thought.
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>>502792541
funny thing is, I'm not even the retard who cried about the animu posts. I'm just telling you you're acting like a retarded manchild and to stay on topic lol

talk about games now plz o7
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>>502791636
>and people are laughing at you
do you sit and laugh audibly at your computer? thats unhinged dude
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>>502791809
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>>502793215
>I'm not even the retard
>stay on topic lol
if you are "not" the retard, then grow a pair and practice what you preach instead of being a double standard faggot.
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>>502785839
The only RNG involved in getting a good weapon now is stat rolls. Typically you want to go for a weapon with a maximum potential (that is, when you've fully empowered it at Hadron) of four 80s and one 60 dump stat, which isn't too hard. Brunt's Armoury can be a bastard sometimes at giving you a fresh grey weapon with the correct dump but once you have it the RNG bullshittery is over and you can completely customise everything about the weapon's performance as many times as you like. If you have a surplus of materials and really want to level a weapon up quickly you can buy a bunch of greys from Brunt, level them up to anointed (blue) at Hadron (beyond that you start spending diamantine on upgrades, which is much rarer), and sacrifice all of them for a good bit of XP.
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>>502792370
Patience is a virtue, sister. Two more days.
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>>502794391
what the fuck
sh... sheepigs? pigeeps?
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>>502788183
>Did I miss anything?
Psyker Trauma staff
Psyker dueling sword
Psyker Electro staff with a bit of kiting
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>>502755581
Get 3x toughness curios, and spec into toughness regen and resistance. You can tank a lot of ranged if you build for it.
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Did darktide devs mention anything about adding new penance reward tiers? Or is that it, nothing more after 5k?
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>>502795414
you can expect new penance rewards within 3-24 months
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>>502795414
As of right now no, they haven't revealed any future penance plans, and I don't want them to. Fuck penances, I don't give a shit about cheevos or the garbage rewards in the unlock track, I want them working on actual content like new maps and weapons.
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LMG soon
Hellgun soon
Melta gun soon
Melta bomb soon
Plasma pistol soon
Autocannon soon
Power fist soon
Power axe soon
Power claw soon
2h Power sword soon
2h Force sword soon
2h Chain axe soon
New staff soon
New mission soon
New class soon
New faction soon
New game soon

did i miss anything?
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>>502793383
lol, lmao even
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>>502795493
>3
ni-
>24

>>502795560
I honestly care a lot more about harder content than what we have right now and some proper balance instead of the mess we have with godlike weapons and "well it works in aurics" weapons. I want vigilant autoguns to be good.
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>>502795627
Can't wait until the 30th when Fatshark will drop a secret surprise update adding all this stuff to the game, we're all gonna make it Darkturd bros!
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>>502796105
Right sister! Just like ratbros got their dedicated servers!
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i think this is a bit hard when you're playing auric maelstroms with pugs only
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>>502795414
>Did darktide devs mention anything about adding new penance reward tiers?
>I need the stick and carrot to keep playing
We get it lil bro
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What is Fatsharks reasoning for refusing to allow solo play? I get it's never going to happen at this point, considering such a change would be a 15kb hotfix, why is this the case?
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>psyker joins
>wearing the final penance armor set
oh sweet finally a good tea-
>it's a smigger
how.
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>>502795627
What I want for my ogryn is a slabshield with a power maul.
Just replace the stance action with the power activation.
Also I'd keep the combos relatively the same on on the power maul shield, ie. the shield is your heavy attacks and maul does light attacks.
But I'd make it so that once you activate the power maul on the shield, the heavy attacks change from the shied to the power maul.

Also I want a heavy bolter and a plasma cannon as well.
>>502796561
Don't do maelstroms, just do regular auric for it.
Or hell, if you want to, just go play on malice for a while and you'll be guaranteed to get it.
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>>502796803
What's wrong with smite?
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>>502796715
You want the devs who added the most useless party finder possible to make good design decisions?
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I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say the word.
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Does Thunderous apply it's brittleness stack first before calculating your damage?
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>>502797268
Don't do it anon, I'm warning you! The consequences will never be the same!
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>>502796715
1. You'd be occupying fartshart server space that could've been shared with 3 more people.
2. It's a mod that you can install right now so they technically do allow it (but are not happy about it).
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I've never actually used the flamer in hundreds of hours of playtime, what is the best perk/blessing setup for this piece of shit?
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>>502796948
makes the game very boring for everyone
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>>502797362
Ratfags.
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>>502791706
>play like an absolute faggot
>only get like 20 kills anyway
god this is actually the worst
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>>502797653
perks are good as is, blaze away and penetrating flame is currently the meta
>also reroll for 80 mobility, 60 is fucking PAINFUL
>Damage is dump stat since it only affects the direct flame, and not the burn stacks
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>>502791006
>heavy eviscerator
use fury and get attack speed talent
use push attacks a lot & get at least 1 stamina curio
use rampage & wrath
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>>502798256
Does .15 sprint speed and 1% dodge distance really make that much of a difference? Damage is similarly negligibly different at 60% and 80% so I guess it doesn't really matter, running around with both of these in the psykanium for a minute really didn't feel noticeably different at all to me though. Thanks for the recommendation.
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>>502797653
>piece of shit
it is a godtier weapon you dumbass. Blaze away, Penetrating Flame, Everlasting flame, or Overpressure. Dump stat is mobility. Perks can be unyielding, flak, maniac, elites, maybe crit if Everlasting.
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>>502798256
who runs around with the flamer? Just slide a little if needed.
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>>502798848
I disagree with him. You're literally never going to be sprinting with the flamer out, never. Dodge distance is shit on it no matter 60 or 80. Just put all the stats in damage.
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>>502796948
Every smigger I play with is a whiny bitch, every single one. Just had one today complain to me how he thought my build "doesn't play well with others and I should go play solo". Dumbass kept dying and going down all game, basically just whining I wasn't being his personal mule and damage sponge.
I hate all Psyker players.
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>>502796803
can easily be something like
>tired as fuck and wanna chill
>select smite
>hold rmb+lmb
>happy drooling gameplay
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>>502796715
>What is Fatsharks reasoning for refusing to allow solo play?
Darktide is centered around team play, that's the reason.
Adding a solo mode would mean that fatshark would then have to spend resources and take solomode into account when they balance the game and implement any changes to gameplay.

And fatshark did make solo mode a thing then ignored it in terms of balance (only focusing on the team play aspect of the game, the main focus of the game), solo mode shitters would then bitch about fatshark ignoring them and how they aren't being catered to enough.
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>>502747840
When is Dark Shite going to fix login error 3001? I swear I encounter this crap since release.
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>>502799484
They should add solo mode but trivialize to the point of boredom so that solo shitters only play it to do some mindless decompressing or sightseeing and then once they want some bite in their mission runs they can step out of their comfort bubble and try a sedition or a malice.
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>>502799628
it's either two weeks or never
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>tabbed out for a minute on the Mourningstar
>get a notification and tab back in
>some random psyker invited me to his strike team
>accept and say hello
>no response
>after a minute of I assume trying to invite other people, he queues us for normal Heresy quickplay
>accept because why not
>get into game and immediately notice he has 5 wounds
>the purpose of those quickly becomes apparent as he blows himself up twice before we even get to the elevator on Refinery Delta
>after we go up the elevator he blows himself up for the third time right in front of the medstation
>leaves the game and strike team, never having said even one word to me
>mfw globies
lol, are console players even human?
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>>502799989
>no response
at this point i would assume that he invites every level 30 player in sight hoping to get carried
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>>502797686
I guess, I've played bunch of auric damnation and maelstrom and I think it's still fun even if there's a smite player.
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>>502780370
no only bile troll
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>>502799989
sounds like he tried doing a penance, and used you to start a lobby (minimum 2 players, right?)
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>>502796715
money for the servers
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>>502800868
What if you had to pay a certain amount of cash shop currency to launch a solo mission, similar to old timey arcades that took a quarter for a game?
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>>502801103
Fatshark here. Thanks for the idea
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>>502801251
You're welcome, fatty.
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>>502800810
No, he quickplayed us into a normal game.
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>>502801103
>500 aquilas a pop
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>>502797653
I found Pen Flame to not actually be very useful, Everlasting Flame is an amazing replacement.
Never have to reload and always get maximum benefit from Blaze Away.
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>>502802695
If you only use the flamer for hordes then it does basically nothing.
It's mainly only a benefit against crushers, bulwarks, reapers and bosses.
Since all brittleness blessings, like can opener and shattering impact, apply the debuff to unyielding enemies.
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>>502795627
Ogryns should get a giant drill or a rock saw that works like the chainswords for zealot and vet.
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>>502782851
please respond
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>>502782851
it's pretty good with zealot. Stack crits and attack speed and go to town
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>>502803951
thank you xir
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>>502772997
Yeah. I'm at pretty much the same place. I'm going to auric storm survivor and trying not to cheese it, but I do need teammates who can hold their own in aurics so it's rough. If you're doing all the right things then it's just practice and improving from each death.
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>>502755581
>Empthic evasion
DO NOT sleep on this talent. You get 1 second of bullet immunity every time you get a crit hit. If you're rocking a scrier's gaze build with high crit chance, you can literally shoot your way out of taking damage while killing dudes at the same time, shit is bananas. This also counts for melee crit hits too so if you're mixing it up with a group of enemies there's a decent chance you can get bullet immunity that way as well, albeit the proc chance is a little lower with the lower speed of melee attacks. You can use primary staff attacks to proc it fairly often as well as most of your staves have a decent crit chance on them but it's better with guns.

You don't have to take this talent but having learned how cheesy it is, I try to slip it into all my builds because of how nifty it is.

As far as toughness generation goes, Soulstealer is always nice. I don't usually follow it up with perilous combustion, I'll go down warp expenditure, those two talents give you a good chunk of toughness back on the regular.
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I'm having bit of a retard moment.
Does can opener work on stuff like plague ogryns and chaos spawns?
If it does, it's weird that it's not mentioned anywhere iirc.
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>>502804437
I run this on crit purg staff and it's so fun, I literally just walk into gunner lines holding purg m2 like I'm fucking Neo. I know slide can do the same thing, but it's way higher apm. Highly recommend.
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>>502804765
Why would it not work on anything?
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>>502804765
>>502804862
>Why would it not work on anything?
from gameslantern:
>Brittleness disregards Flak and Carapace armor mods and uses the base damage instead for the brittleness portion.
i see no mention of any other armor type
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>>502800516
But why? Surely the L4D2 Tank would be easy to ripoff again and make the Rat Ogre playable. Hell with how long they've been working on this how come you can't be all the specials?
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>>502804961
>from gameslantern
Install debuff indicator and creature spawner.
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>>502805129
you don't even need that to test it
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>>502805216
Wrong, you do need creature spawner to test it on
>plague ogryns and chaos spawns
and then proceed by understanding that they're just unyielding so bulwark butt works for testing anything related to unyielding just fine.
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>>502805564
you said i'm wrong then proceeded to explain why i'm right?
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>Maelstrom
>Entire team is dead
>Fighting spawn, horde, crushers
>10 minutes later all dead
>so fucking clutch, they're going to clip this and make youtube videos of me, fuck yes
>running down Corridor
>Trapper *POPS* into existence a few feet in front of me and fires the same frame it does so and traps me
>I scream into the mic
>team says nice try
>I pace around my garden in anger
This fucking game, this fucking game
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>>502805048
Holy fuck I made this shit edit on Paint like 6 years ago, why did you save it?
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>>502806112
is funni
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>>502806309
Sry I was just a bit surprised to see it again
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>>502767539
Game needs more shitter filters like that.
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redpill me on the hellbore
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>>502805984
No, your logic is flawed.
You don't need those mods if you already confirmed that bosses are, indeed, unyielding, and aren't different from bulwark's glorious behind.
You do need them to confirm it instead of trusting some random websites.

I am trying to teach the guy how to fish.
You are trying to appear smart when you clearly aren't, without even trying to explain anything to that guy, so literally just some ego shit. You better think about it because if you're like this IRL with people you know then it's embarrassing. Peace.
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>>502775989
It was always a noob trap.
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>>502798848
>Does .15 sprint speed and 1% dodge distance really make that much of a difference?
No it doesn't. You're also still stuck at 2 dodges.
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>>502806609
knife on a stick
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>>502803036
It still takes ages to kill Crushers, and against bosses you'll actually get a better TTK with EF not counting squad damage, not having to reload is huge.
You're better off using your melee weapon for killing all the tough armored boys and not doing some dumb loadout like Hsword with flamer for armor killing.
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Is it me or is the mutation event spawning way more bosses without telling you?
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What are the best anti-boss set ups per class in ratclick? I've quickplayed into lobbies where bosses just get deleted immediately and ones where they just linger forever and being fairly new myself I'd like to get a good build going on Bardin and Sienna at least.
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>>502809528
Dude, it's been two weeks of Burgles on timed spawns already. You're just realizing this now?
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>shpopclick
>be team's only boss damage
>go down to some stupid mistake or freak accident just as a boss spawns
>die (obviously)
>go afk to take a piss and make coffee
>come back
>they're still fighting it
Impressive.
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newfriend here how do i build out the boss nuking zealot hammer I see? I tried one but it was only doing like 1/3 damage vs the entire health bar
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>>502811037
For the hammer you pick +25% vs unyielding perk and the Thrust blessing.
For the tree most people go martyrdom. Important nodes are Purge the Unclean (top middle lane), and Duelist (left side, under the stun grenade)
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>>502811037
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d86e382-01b2-4015-b42c-4e4f0d71557a/bonk-boss?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
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>come back to darktide for the crafting update and the new frame event
>play a few matches
>lurk the general
What the actual fuck went wrong those past 2 years?
How did it get so fucking bad?
Both ingame and in here, everyone is a fucking passive-aggressive asshole constantly talking shit of others.
What? Why?
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>>502806695
Holy over reaction. Notice how I haven't insulted you at all. But you've insulted me. If you can't hold a normal civil conversation without insulting the other person then you have no business talking shit about anyone's social skills. Take your own advice.
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>>502806609
Charge up pews
Never run out of ammo
Poke poke poke
Who even needs a primary?
I run exe stance and just pick off shooters.
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>>502812585
Just a few mentally ill anons, try to ignore it
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>>502812585
I've noticed the general gets very passive aggressive from 3PM to 6PM euro-time during weekdays. My theory is that people are tired and hungry from school/work and it affects their behavior.
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>>502812585
I feel like it's a symptom of people not having fun. I frequently get the impression that all the anons shitting up the thread don't even play the games anymore, which makes me wonder why they're so invested in shitting up the place.
>Why?
Fagshart is why. Slopclick has received a bare minimum drip feed of content, with far too long in-between. And now shopclick is selling black recolored weapons with a png of a skull on them for like $3 a pop.
Nothing to shit up the general over though. I'm still having fun playing Darktide.
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How do I make friends?
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>>502813872
just b urself :)
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Since Tanner now hates the ogrynomicon, can we come around and admit it's a good guide?
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>>502812585
>it's not issou anymore...
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>>502812585
i feel exactly the same
i'm not the best of players and i like playing heresy and damnation to unwind, but everyone here is constantly seething and attacking each other if they don't play auric maelstrom 24/7
ingame it's even worse, we had a knife zealot rushing the entire game and the ogryn talked shit and refused to help carry the batteries or whatever
this was on damnation mind you
i remember people taking shit about vets when the game came out, but honestly knife zealots seem worse than both kerillian and lasgun vets
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>>502813656
>And now shopclick is selling black recolored weapons with a png of a skull on them for like $3 a pop
Thought you were kidding but holy fucking shit this is ridiculous.
What the actual fuck is wrong with Fatshark, and why do people keep buying this shit?
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>>502813872
Find like minded transphobic people ingame and mog on 41%ers together
>>502814714
No, since ogryn is a shit character by design, ergo the guide is shit also
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>>502815251
They're closer to $4-5 if you buy one individually, btw.
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>>502815251
There are complete whales who buy everything as it comes out. EVERYTHING. At a certain point you stop respecting these people as customers and just shovel slop to get your free money.
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>>502815251
And people thought these were going to be earnable event skins. LOL!
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>>502815251
>What the actual fuck is wrong with Fatshark, and why do people keep buying this shit?
Because they are unironically braindead.
Go look at any of the youtuber fags like Tanner or Torinator and they both have this black recolor bone slop skins.
Tanner has the dueling sword and Tori has the black pickaxe.
Here's the vids if you care.
https://youtu.be/bIPDW1IUPJ8?si=NLHFdWLhAPgqLua1
You can see Tori's instantly.
https://youtu.be/Uh7j-xx1tLI?t=707&si=ZmcyeUtlK1ftemH3
You can see Tanner's at 11:47.

So to answer who buys this unironic slop?
It's faggots like these. And now you have even more of a reason to disregard what these fags say about the game.
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Where is my Kerillian pose fatshark
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>>502812585
Do you like the game, anon?
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The DH should be removed from the game entirely the way they keep nerfing it.
It used to hang around and take out most of the team, maybe even all of the team. When someone woke it up everyone was obligated to deal with it.
Now its just a mild nuisance that everyone ignores, acting under the assumption that whoever woke it up is meant to just get picked up at the next rescue point.

Fatshark should either make this thing relevant again or just not have it around, or maybe leave them only in Lights Out and Maelstroms or something.
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>>502781415
Don’t post shitty manga here
>>502786413
Popular shonen slop is seemingly always doomed to that for whatever reason
>>502787884
>It's shit, looking back the signs were all there from the beginning.
It was never really good, just executed the generic tropes pretty well, but even that wasn’t for long
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>>502819981
>Now its just a mild nuisance that everyone ignores
In aurics? The vast majority of the time I see people immediately swap to it and try to help the person that pulled it, unless they instantly go down I see the DH killed more often than it kills somebody.
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>>502789678
Anime website.
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>>502820421
In aurics I usually find I'm the only one that swaps to it, usually its a roll of the dice if I can deal with it before it takes out whoever woke it up. The others usually keep going.
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>>502815806
>>502816397
>>502816407
>>502816554
That's repulsive, not even ratclick had so many mtx.
>>502819531
I mean, I like the combat, which is pretty much Vermintide's but on steroids (finally), and nothing else.
Having control on your weapons and whats on them is the reason I'm back from launch, it feels nice.
I don't really like everything else, maybe the levels since those at least look pretty.
I still don't like the fact that you play as some random cannon fodder with no personality and pre-baked voicelines.
I don't like how there still isn't an offline modem and how every mission is just temporary randomized locations of the same "biome" with weird modifiers slapped on top.
I don't like the hub, why do we have to share it with random people? Why can't it be just one offline location with all the relevant npcs? Why can't I just chill and listen to the music without the XxXBickDigXxX named ogryn player doing laps with Mr. X tier footsteps around the table in the middle?
I know there are new maps, but only 3? Really? In 2 years they only made 3?
Overall I like the game and I will keep playing, but I am disappointed.
And I'm not even gonna comment on the MTX shit, I already did that.
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>>502799989
Xbox players you retard
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>>502805048
the rat ogre is infinitely cooler than the tank for the record
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>>502815251
>this puts ratclick to shame in terms of greed
holy fuck lmao
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>>502806309
Nah, *this* is funny
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>>502816554
>Torinator
Not related, but he got unmodded by tanner in his server for whatever reason, and threw a fit in gen chat and threatened to kill xirself then got kicked lol

shit was fucking funny as HELL
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>>502821672
except ratclick showers you in unclockable cosmetics for every weapon and career, you are not forced to buy the ratpig skins to not look like the default elf
the one (1) good set of cosmetics darktide had was removed and quarantined away, only to be replaced with rags and linen clothes
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>>502821374
I mean no offense, but it sounds like you don’t like it if the only good thing you can name about it is the gameplay. Not blaming you or anything, but my advice would be to come back in like another year (yes, really) when things will hopefully be in a better state, as things are I can only foresee it being a pretty miserable experience
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>>502821853
christ
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>>502821609
True and I want to play as one.
Ratling Gunner isn't enough.
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>>502795627
Yeah. New playerbase soon.
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>>502822274
Nah it's fine, it's fun I just wish it were a bit like Vermintide structure-wise.
Oh well, whatever I guess.
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>>502821853
you really are obsessed with that fat brown tranny dude
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If I had to describe zealot mains in few words it would be "Main Character Syndrome"
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New ACK just dropped
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>>502820421
This only happens if your team has people that know how to kill boss, as in krak nades, DS4 heavy pokes, barrage, etc.

As long as you have 1-2 of those DH's are a corruption nuisance at best.
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>>502821853
jfc... why is literally every jewtuber a tranny wacko?
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>>502822813
kek
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>>502819981
It killed half of the team on launch, anon. It got buffed to see invis greifers, and then nerfed to only kill the person who pulled.
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>>502821882
AND to add the cherry on top, ratclick has given away premium shopslop the past few years for free
>whatever the christmas thing is called
I'd eat my hat if shopclick would ever do the same at this rate
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Any good shredder autopistol builds?
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>>502823380
Am I misremembering? I'm pretty sure it would go after 3 on the team at launch, always making sure to leave if there was one left.
It would get buggy if someone left the mission though.
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>>502823724
nope, has always been 2
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>>502823698
nope
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i'm the only person in the entire world who uses chainaxe mark 12 and that means i'm special
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>fuck it, zealot penance time
>bring a flamer just in case nobody has boss damage for when qp inevitably puts me in-
>damnation mutated horrors
>psyker brainlessly backpedals the burgle even after being told twice to just kite it in circles
>out of my flamer range, of course
>literally nobody is even looking at the bosses half the time
>somehow have twice the boss damage of everyone combined, without hammer or fotf
>fuck up a single time and get vored
>the beast survives on 3k HP while digesting me down to 10%
Genuinely how can it be this common for 3 retards to queue into the mode and expect to get hard carried? It really isn't hard to make a build that can kill these things.
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>>502821374
what a whiny bitch you are
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>>502822987
mind virus from jew website
you need strong willpower to resist it
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How do I stop being bad as ogryn
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>>502808427
Yes, you're right, but I'm just explaining what you can use it for.
Also brittleness is a debuff that all team members can capitalize on.
Brittleness is essentially "take more damage all sources" debuff to all armor types besides unarmored and infested.
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>>502825903
Heavyspam, learn 2 slide and hope a room full of shooter mooks don't rape you.
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coop games really attract, and this is a technical term, cerebrotonic whingy faggots
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OH MY GOD GRIM PROTOCOLSS
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>>502826747
>grim protocols
GRIM
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https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-grim-protocols-releasing-3-december/101611
>Two handed force sword
>Two handed power sword
>Heavy stubber
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>>502826787
>Ogryn Heavy stubber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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>>502819981
I prefer how the daemonhost is now.
I remember when DH used to kill 2 people from the squad and then leave, I lost a run to one of them because the retarded bot (I'm not insulting a player here) for whatever reason thought it was a good idea to walk right fucking past it and then aggro it.
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>>502826787
>been in the game files for 2yrs now
>can finally use them
okay, i guess.
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>>502821853
>Not related, but he got unmodded by tanner in his server for whatever reason
Unironically probably because Tori made the "fixing that dueling sword build" video.
I mean this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yaGsbTsdwQ

And this build was originally made by Tanner, my guess is that Tanner got asshurt that one of his discord mods dares to disagree with him and make him look bad. So he demoted Tori.
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>>502826787
>Two-Handed Power Sword (2 Marks) - Zealot: A massive, high-damage melee weapon with wide, sweeping attacks.
>Heat Activation Mechanic: Generates a heat gauge, building over time. Reaching the limit locks activation briefly (overheat mechanic).
>Special Attack: Sprinting Heavy stab attack for unique engagement tactics.
I wonder if other power weapons will get the heat mechanic too.
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>>502826787
>Anniversary Special Event: To celebrate the second anniversary of Warhammer 40,000: Darktide, the game will host an event that will reward players with a unique weapon trinket.
Will the trinket meme ever die
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>>502826787
>>502826981
nice.
finally they're making some fucking content.
maybe in a few months we might stop ratposting if this continues.
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>>502825903
Start with karsolas pick or shield, take the tippy top left node. Top right node is also nice for when you need to cross a distance or can't move from a bad spot and desperately need toughness.
Take bruiser in the bottom center tree (right side).
If you're LOOOGING, I suggest taking the burn node so you don't have to suffer retards that don't bring boss damage. Put unyielding on your stubber.
Don't TOOONK, the shield's special should only be used in really dire circumstances, if at all. Learn to cancel your combo, the first heavy swing is the one you want with the shield. Shout is most useful for damage amp.
If you're committing to melee, take the heavy attack bleed node, the bleed damage resist, and maybe even the center capstone.
40-60% gunner resist and 20% sniper resist are nice crutches to have. I still use 60, 20 for comfort's sake, and am not really missing other shit on my curios.
Toughness regen is comfy, but not strictly necessary. I would recommend bringing stamina regen.
Wounds are useless, you already start with 3.
Slide a lot. Side dodge a lot in melee.
Stay in the center of your team if possible, ogryn isn't all that great at taking point, you kinda want the toughness.

Also just play more, on the highest difficulty you can comfortably handle.
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>>502826787
at least ogryn has a flashlight now, but this is just going to be infantry autogun
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Can someone please explain to me who the fuck is Tanner and why does he have 12 mentions in this thread alone?
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>>502826309
>>502827496
Thanks frens. I'm just not used to being so slow and easy target practice for gunners and mooks. I play zealot normally.
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>>502825403
The newest event just kinda showed that most of the auric mission population is pretty middle of the road in skill at best.
Biggest indicator of a shit player is the ASS title and knife.
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>>502827698
eceleb /copeg/ loves to fellate
they'll swear they hate him but can never get his cock out of their mouth
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wait.... nothing new for veterans?
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>>502826787
>two handed power sword with a reworked activation mechanic
>two handed force sword with a reworked activation mechanic
>ogryn heavy stubber that is almost certain to be absolutely useless as the real utility of looger is the burn stacks, but is certain to be used by every insufferable looger from now on
>absolutely nothing for veteran
Unbelievably based.
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>>502827698
tranny you-tuber or something who loves to shill his own garbage
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>>502827876
THIS IS THE FIRST NEW WEAPON PSYKER HAS GOTTEN IN 2 YEARS
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN VET/ZEALOT/OGRYN
FUCK YOU
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So catching up since about a year of absence like this guy >>502785839.

Mostly enjoyed Zealot before, so I had some okay-ish weapons before. Trying out the thunderhammer and enjoying it a lot, however I read that it's mostly for boss kills and not crowd control, and seeing a lot of guides recommend the duelling sword. I'm mainly interested in the chainsword and thunderhammer, but have used crusher a little bit pre-patch. Does anyone know the use cases for most of the weapon archetypes? I figured thammer would've been crowd control, and duelling sword is better for special killing, but according to the guide it might be the other way around? Thammer charged heavies seems fairly good at CC.Haven't gotten a good sword yet.
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>>502827698
The new j_sat.
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>>502827818
That wasn't even aurics, just regular damnation. I'm not gonna grief aurics with some meme build.
I've also not really noticed people being particularly shit in auric damnation specifically, but I've also almost exclusively brought proper builds with heavy focus on boss killing into aurics, so there's some bias here.
Auric maelstrom and heresy have been a hugely mixed bag tho.
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Sister, take me to dinner first at least.
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>>502827698
youtuber people here shitpsost about cuz he's a lolcow
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>every psyker you get now is going to be an insufferable scriers two hander with absolutely zero support abilities
>inb4 AIEEEE HELP ME SMITE-SAMA, PLEASE COME BACK, THEY KEEP DYING TO RAGERS-ACK
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Bros I’m fucking retarded. I’m looking at my buff bar but I can’t figure out which of the dozen icons indicates when my warp unbound will keep me from dying with scriers gaze
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>>502828201
trannycore
>still would
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>>502828095
Dueling sword's role is winning the game and hard carrying your ass because it does literally everything you need a weapon to do. At least Mk.IV, anyway.
Thammer is a little too slow to crowd control properly and doesn't deal with mixed hordes very well in my experience, but I've not used it very much, so maybe a thammer enjoyer can give better advice. From what I've seen and used, it feels best against crowds with martyrdom, and martyrdom is kinda shit, so ymmv. I personally just keep using with with fotf and blazing piety, and it does okay.
Heavy eviscerator is similarly clunky, and has a disappointingly low cleave target max (I think it's 4?)
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what-what?
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>>502828437
just get the mod that shows the count down
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>two handed power sword unique features
>new heat mechanic
>lunging special attack
but...activating the blade is the special action? hopefully they'll clarify how this works in the next two weeks, right? hahaha....
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>>502826787
>Two handed force sword
Wait, that's actually a thing? I thought it was just a meme that was repeated here for the sake of it.
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>>502828514
In the tail-hole butt.
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>>502828730
I really do not care for this particular brand of gay.
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>>502825903
>2 toughness on heavy talents from the top left
>bleed talent
>DR on bleed in the left tree
>crunch is a trap, ignore it
>shield - brutal momentum, heavy 1 cancel for tons of damage and stagger (even ogryns), heavy 1 into heavy 2 to stagger then knockdown everything in front of you (less damage but gives breathing room), great on everything but boss damage
>karasolas pick axe - heavy swings, special staggers and shits on armor
>folding shovel (mark 9 I think) - heavy swings, special folds the shovel and shits on armor
>kickback - run n gun reduces the cone and makes it a mid range sniper, knocks over anything smaller than an ogryn in a cone in front of you to make room
you want to wade in and do heavy attacks to regen toughness, the bleed on hit will proc delight in destruction for up to 48% damage resistance on top of the other passive DR you can get. shield makes it easy to just mow down everything that comes at you, the heavy attacks will stagger even ogryn enemies on head shots, mauler and rager packs are a nuisance at worst. you'll need to get used to sliding through gunners and using bull rush for positioning into groups, weave in a short semicircle to corral enemies but be aware that you are a big fucker and will block your teammate's shots. when playing ogryn its best to pick a "side" of the map and stick to it, like keep your back to a wall and move along it so you leave the other lane open for your teammates to shoot.
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MINE!
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>>502828653
Dev blog coming as soon as the interns shovel the snow, Reject!
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>>502827698
bratty femboy that i want to correct
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>>502828692
are you serious? there's a force/power/chain version of everything
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>ratniggers wake up and they immediately start spamming cropped gay furry porn
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Enjoy you little bump of popularity while it last, ratfags..... on 3 december the turntables will turn, and I'll be the one posting steam charts...
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>zealot finally gets power sword
>instead of being allowed to activate it and then swing it three times with a blessing, you activate it, swing it three times, and then it goes on cooldown with a blessing to lower the cooldown, but it's still too long
>it manages to be worse than one handed power sword purely by not having access to the activated state at all times, forcing you to swing it unactivated, which feels like flailing a pool noodle
>every zealot continues to use dueling sword and thammer while ignoring it
>every psyker tries to bring the two handed force sword, and every lobby is filled with squishy glowy paper men getting bodied
this will happen
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>>502829409
>3 december
>the same day ratfags get 2 new maps, new weapons and free mtx cosmetics
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>>502828508
Well nuts, I also fucking hate martydom. I'll give the dueling sword a shot. Pre-patch I used a LOT of the heavy sword so I imagine it'll be roughly the same.

Boltgun feels pretty good at least for short range special hunting. Coming from a lot of use of the revolver.
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>>502829573
really? nta but fatshark would really update their old game the same day the release something for Darktide?

Omg what are they thinking
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>still no meltagun
still not a 40k game
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>>502829573
Shut up.
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>>502826787
>Smooth Flow: Psyker’s psi-assisted techniques make the weapon feel lighter and more agile.
Force Swords will rape. Attack speed is always god tier in Tide games. Power Swords might be shit
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>>502829951
>fire once
>spend the next 10 minutes venting
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>>502829573
source?
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>>502830018
depends on whether or not power greatsword has
>enough boss damage to compete with thammer while also enough crowd clear to make up for any way it's lacking in boss damage
>the ability to cleave through and kill several crushers at once
>the ability to cleave through bulwark shields
I'm willing to bet it's going to have none of this so yeah, dogshit weapon.
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>>502830201
imagine being a meta slave


Grim
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>>502830167
the citadel of eternity
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>>502830360
oh so it's just bullshits
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>>502830342
>my scoreboard only sucks because i'm not a slave to the meta!
Keep telling yourself that, deadweight
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>>502830342
god forbid anyone ever want one of the most iconic and coolest weapons of a series to perform well
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>>502830531
>Muh scoreboard
pathetic
>>502830567
can't use a weapon unless it's meta
laughable
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>>502830567
the cope of a metaslave
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>>502830201
>Kill several crushers at once
lol
lmao even
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>>502830691
>>502830751
chaxe users getting uppity, don't you have a gray catachan solo run to go beat your head against or something
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>>502830874
Never did a solo run? they're fun.
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>>502830842
shovel can do it
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>>502829951
my wife
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Still waiting on psyker to get the dbz ki blast spam staff. Aka bolt staff primary
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>>502831360
>dbz
Here's the mexican/arab/indian poster
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>>502828104
>regular damnation
Oh okay, that makes sense.
Yeah I tried that once (no mutated horrors modifier) and it wasn't fun at all.
It was clear that the people playing were noobs despite being level 30.
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>>502826787
DARKSISTERS!
WE WON!

DOUBTERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>502826787
Really was expecting nothing or just one of those things. I'll have some fun playing it with friends
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>>502828471
Hestia is a woman though...?
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>>502831434
But I'm white?
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>>502831935
Vets don't need more
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>>502831935
>we will explain why you don't get anything at a later date
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>>502831995
You'll never be white, Pablo.
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>>502831935
The hellgun fatshark, where is it?
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>>502826787
>ogryn
>it's just another stubber but with 1 less barrel
That's just fucking lame to be quite honest.
They should be giving ogryns at least 3 new unique ranged weapon families and 3 new unique melee weapon families.
I will try the heavy stubber but I likely wont try playing with it long term. Would just rather use the mk2 ripper.
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They're delaying the vet weapon release because we'll actually get THREE new weapons!
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>>502795414
>Did darktide devs mention anything about adding new penance reward tiers?
apparently yes
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>>502832110
Please don't gaslight me, anon. The only mexican in my family is the one my cousin married
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>>502832404
people have asked for more precise ogryn weapons for 2 years and now we finally get it
>fucking lame
ur gay
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Just give vet the flamethrower, I want to see what it would do to armour when it’s pissing out brittleness stacks.
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>>502832736
we already did that on zealot. It broke the game, remember?
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>>502826787
I wonder if the Relic Blade will straight up powercreep the Eviscerator or just be a sidegrade
At least the new mission is Carnival, but hopefully it's not as straghtforward as "Kill Rinda (for real this time)"
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>>502832702
>pick big retard class that is only given speed weapons because they are so retarded they don’t know how to aim, orks are better shots than them
>hmmm yes very good but what I really need on this class is a very accurate weapon
kek
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>>502832503
>Power fist
>Power saber
>Power claw
it's happening
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>>502830691
>>Muh scoreboard
>pathetic
It exists even if you need to pretend like it doesn't
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>>502830201
>Two-Handed Power Sword (2 Marks) - Zealot: A massive, high-damage melee weapon with wide, sweeping attacks.
Yes, Power Swords sound like they will be horde clearing weapons. So you can easily remove trash with them, but their wide sweeping attacks will make them ill suited to kill elites with precise weakspot hits

>Two-Handed Force Sword (2 Marks) - Psyker: A finesse-oriented weapon combining melee and psychic powers.
>Smooth Flow: Psyker’s psi-assisted techniques make the weapon feel lighter and more agile.
So they are highly precise, fast attacking heavy weapons forever locked to Psyker. Just in time for Dueling Sword nerf.
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>>502832702
I want shit like the autocannon, assault cannon, heavy bolter, etc.
Us getting yet another fucking stubber but 1 less barrel this time around is fucking lame.
The current stubbers themselves should had the flashlight built in already anyway.
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>>502832897
That was 100% rending and moving the armour class to one lower, but it would be fucking stupid. But I still want it, vet should get all the ranged weapons the models get. They are the shoot thing class.
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>>502832567
It's aleady too late, you're a fan of dbz. Only brown people like this shit.
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>>502833337
I never said I was a fan of it, just referenced its moves.
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>no hotshot or stubber for vet
The weapon models are already in the game you fucks
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>>502833438
stfu and post pics of your cousin spic wife
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>>502833742
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>>502826787
Damn, that's less weapons than Ratclickers get.
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>>502833221
>horizontal sweeps
>hard to hit weakpoints
huh?
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>>502834479
you won't get horizontal sweeping attacks
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>group with 3 zealots
>they run in 3 different directions
why are zealots so braindead?
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>>502834729
Most zealots suffer from maincharacter syndrome.
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>>502834729
Theirs is a tale of martyrdom, you merely share it
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>>502834685
wanna bet
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What if you could also equip a Grenadier Gauntlet in your melee slot?
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Grim
Grave, even
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>>502826787
>Two-Handed Force Sword
christ, fucking finally
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I was expecting vet to get the two handed power sword and zealot to get the two handed chain axe that’s been in the files since launch.
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>>502836573
>that’s been in the files
you mean the .jpeg?
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>>502836573
At least with the 2h PS zealots can have something of a crusader copesplay
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What are we missing now? Idk 40k lore.
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>>502836573
does anyone still have the webms with those actually? I'm curious if they'll have made changes to what was datamined.
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>>502837068
melta
hotshot
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>check out code to find out why the ogryns steady grip "5% toughness regeneration when bracing ranged weapon" gives 15% toughness per second
>it just straight up calls the function 3 seperate times
lol
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>>502837881
I fucking knew it felt far better than stated, gungrugger is stupidly tanky
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>>502837068
>melta gun
>long las
>human heavy stubber
>2h chainaxe
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>>502838128
Unless longlas works like a railgun and destroys everything in its path it’ll be so shit in this game
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Why the FUCK is the new ogryn weapon another useless stubber for worthless LOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGING
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>>502834974
yes, you will get weirdly angled attacks, Fatshark is allergic to horizontal attacks. And for a good reason, they are boring.
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>>502837068
You don't have to. Think of any melee weapon and there is a Power, Chain and Force version of it.
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>>502838905
Because fatshark picked something that has next to no weapon options in the setting in an IP owned by people that don’t like those who license it out changing things. Ogryn was probably the most retarded class choice they could have made. And now we have to deal with larping morons crying that they don’t get a heavy bolter every update.
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>>502838935
guaranteed one of the marks will get horizontal lights and overhead/thrust heavies, and that's all anyone will use, willing to bet my darktide scented candle and darktide themed hotsauce collection on it
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>>502838831
I like zooming in on stuff, could be fun against other snipers or gunners in a large room.
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>>502839230
They will be angled just enough so you can't easily decapitate everything on screen.
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>>502839127
>POWER KNIFE
>CHAIN KNIFE

>>502838905
>stubber
>useless
skill issue
>LOOOOOOGERs
I do kinda dread having to play with retards that hoover up all the ammo on the map because they can't find their melee weapon.
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>>502839492
>POWER KNIFE
>CHAIN KNIFE
unironically a thing
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so this is the cosmetic we'll get?
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>>502839395
It just won’t work well with how frantic the game is now
>draw time
>zoom in animation
>narrow fov when aiming
It would have to work like the enemy snipers long las and melt everything in its path, although plasma already does that without those drawbacks.
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>ogryns get a heavy stubber before vets do
sucks to suck
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>>502839127
Chain nunchucks
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>>502839492
>CHAIN KNIFE
So we meet again...
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>>502839645
It’ll be for farming every single old and new penance, it will be an off colour that can’t be mixed and matched with anything else.
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>>502839645
>Including the expansion of the Penance progression track with new challenges and rewards, as well as quality of life improvements such as an extension of the Party Finder feature and idle animations to Stances
it fucking better be, the penance armor sets came with helmetless masks, this update might finally add them
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>>502839645
>We’ll also be adding an all black Moebian 53rd cosmetic set, which will be earnable through playing.
yes
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>>502839728
That’s a regular stubber secondary
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>>502839492
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chain_Knife
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_Knife
>>502839742
Sounds like Eldar weapon, ask your local Wych and she will show you
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>>502839645
This nigga ran like he'd shit his pants the entire cinematic
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>>502839942
Yeah I can’t wait to play with shit I don’t want to use farming 5000 head shot kills as a loooger using the new gun. Penance system fucking sucks, new cosmetics should just go into the in game currency shop.
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>>502827942
Watch them add two-handed shovel for the vet that will outperform both 2h force sword and 2h power sword.
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>>502834729
just looking for things to kill
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>>502840316
I've done most of them I just can't stomach the zealot ones
>le sneaky backstab out of coherency
>more sneaky backstabs
>fast stabs!
fuck off just fuck off
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>>502840208
>Punch daggers
>Klaive
>Hellglaive
>Razorflail
NOW we're talking
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>>502840123
No it isn't retard
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>>502748437
>>>502748059
it's funny how quiet and pleasant the thread is once the chart poster gets a ban
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>>502840584
I’ve done most of the vet and zealot ones but I just can’t be fucking bothered with them anymore. It’s such a drawn out grind and I can’t believe people are happy with it being the delivery system for new sub par cosmetics once in a blue moon.
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>>502826787
That's it?
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>>502840123
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>>502840797
Forcing players down an incredibly specific and frustrating playstyle for thousands of kills is stupid especially when you're fighting tooth and nail against three retards desperate to get the highest scoreboard damage
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>>502828201
Hot
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>>502839127
Force shovel, let's fucking gooooo
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>>502839901
I think my grandma had one of these
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>>502829409
More like November 25th
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>>502841317
Your grandma was Terran Republic?
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>Game literally crashes for everyone once we are in the ship
>It seemingly ends and tries to trigger that ending cutscene
>No rewards
I'm seething, raging and malding so hard now
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>>502831652
You don’t have friends.
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>>502838831
Just let it highlight elites/specials innately and also give it Surgical and a rending version of it, and some cleave so a couple of poxies don't cockblock your shot like the bolt pistol initially did
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>>502840208
all of these things look so fragile, one time use and throw away deal
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>>502835486
It'd be pretty decent, you'd have an ok melee weapon with a decent grenade secondary that you can use to snipe pesky specials like trappers.
While you can then use stuff like rippers and stubbers to take care of all the chaff or to put out lot of firepower with the point blank barrage.
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>>502840718
>>502840961
It an Orthlack pattern stubber, heavy stubber as in heavy for a man to use. The heavy stubber looogers will get is going to be the true heavy stubber that require gun teams to use that looks like a ww1 machine gun.
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>>502839901
Oh man… that takes me back…
>>502840208
Maybe when we finally get a Drukhari mercenary
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>>502839443
t. assblasted vet main
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>>502837068
Ogryn fists
>brass knuckles with spikes, lower damage but innate bleed procs, special is a quick jab stagger
>a cage made of rebar, medium speed and damage, relies more on combos for damage with the subsequent hits having better stagger. lights are jabs, combo could be light jab into heavy right straight into heavy left uppercut. more single target oriented. special is pic related
>piece of steel girder or concrete with a handle made of rebar, the slow heavy horde clear of the bunch. lights are straight punches with the heavies sweeping haymakers that have good stagger. special is a twohanded overhead smash that will apply brittleness or extra damage to carapace
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>>502841416
what on 25th?
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>>502837068
>What are we missing now?
The 2 handed chainaxe thing.
Also supposedly there's supposed to be a 3rd kickback like weapon for ogryn, I think it was called "thugshot" or something. Could be the kickbacks "heavy" variant where you just shoot 1 single solid high power slut that punches through carapace and has high cleave.
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>>502833221
Damn the Ogre Kingdoms rat click update looking great
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>>502841640
Probably made from some Eldar bullshitium folded over 1000 times
>>502841283
Look around and someone, somewhere made insane shit like this in 40k
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>>502838831
So the plasma
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>>502832567
based bleacher cousin
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>>502841806
I'm gunpsyker main and couldn't be more happy
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>>502838831
Pierces all trashmobs and has a nutty finesse multiplier
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>>502841678
I'll bet that fatshark just scales up a human sized heavy stubber
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>>502839728
I'd rather the Veteran get a hotshot lasgun.

You get a backpack with 4000 shots. No reloading necessary but you can overheat it by firing it too much. You can't refill during the match but your ammo regen aura can help restock you which would give 40 shots per special kill with a 4000 ammo count.
OR
You have unlimited ammo with the overheat mechanic. In either case, you'd get the worst mobility of any ranged weapon since you'd have to lug around a giant power pack on your back to keep it firing. It'd feel like you're a slab shield ogryn running with it.

However they do it, I hope that mechanically it's so different that it forces new play styles and odd talent selection to make it work. Preferably where it has a high skill ceiling so a good hotshot lasgunner can carry the match and a bad one will fuck the rest of the team over. That's really the best I think.
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I love GOONLUGGIN. I just tried it out and got my optimal stubber and it's so much fun raping shock troop patrols on auric or just mowing down hordes in high int engagements. Stubber is also great for supressing/killing ranged trash mobs who always pissed me off when I was playing any kind of ogryn except shield taunt.
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>>502841283
Kriegers have sanctioned psykers too I guess, don't see why we should leave them out
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>>502842358
the psyker two hander will absolutely not have a sensible moveset
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>>502842508
reduced base stamina?
sounds miserable but fair
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>>502829170
kekkkk
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>>502827480
doubt it
you’ll still be gay
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Are you a part of the 7.7%?
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And just like that, every lobby will be two zealots and two psykers using two handed weapons for at least a month
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>>502842181
> Probably made from some Eldar bullshitium folded over 1000 times
Correct.
>>502842508
Can’t Hotshots one shot tanks and shit? That’s some heavy duty firepower. You’d definitely need some heavy trade offs to balance it like you say
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>>502843401
and a goonlooger
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>>502840885
Surely they add more
It's two whole weeks away
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>>502843401
>the two hander zealots will actually be useful
>the scrier psyker two hander zealots will be going down 24/7 and contributing nothing to the team
>ammo hog loogers rampant, even if it's a genuine dps downgrade
yep
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After the crafting update I think Melk is only really good for curios.
If you have lot of the melk bucks just spam buy the "unknown defensive curio" and you'll be bound to get couple of 21% health and 17% toughness curios out of it.
Which you can then properly tweak at hadron since you can infinetly change the curio perks now.
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>>502843857
>try to say zealots will be useful
>brain betrays me and types out "zealots"
subconsciously I am aware of it
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>>502843230
Yeah I did it first try with a recon lasgun build just last week. Some nigger flamer grazed me for 1 corruption though otherwise I would've also gotten the no damage penance.
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So are we getting more than 1 outfit per class this upcoming patch?

>>502839645
I am oddly excited for a fully enclosed helmet
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Stupid question
but can Ogryn actually DO the parkour for some of the Martyr skulls?
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>>502844164
I incidentally did all the parkour puzzles on psyker, who I'm pretty sure isn't any faster than ogryn without perks I don't use.
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What's going to be so "heavy" about the new stubber? Isn't the first mark one available now basically heavy already?
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>>502843997
Wrong!
Empowering to 500 is retardedly expensive Hadron is a fucking jew, buying a 500 weapon regardless of its blessing/perks if it has the right stat spread is much better.
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>>502843230
Yes. it's not that hard though
>Malice
Don't play dumb (big ask for a lot of players I know) and it should be pretty easy. Serial killer though, you have to actually aim. I don't know when I got this but I'm glad I already have it.
>>502843548
>One shot tanks
I'd need the sauce on that. If we're going by lore every lasgun should let you have full auto fire, variable power ranges, and the extra magazines can be used as grenades. When I think of the hotshot lasgun for DT, I see it being an LMG style weapon that trades bursts of very high sustained damage for periods of downtime to recharge/cool off. Something akin but not the same as the VT2's Dwarven engineer Gatling.
>>502844415
According to the notes, there will be a single-shot mode when you aim down sights akin to the bolter. Hopefully, the ammo pool/magazine is better than the bolter so it's not 6 seconds of fun followed by 4.5 seconds of reload time.
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>>502844926
Can't you get Serial Killer in like 2 plasma rifle shots? There's a couple spots in the game where enemies bunch up like fuck, and also sometimes shot/gunners spawn clipped into each other in clusters of 5+.
I got it some time last year, before I took a long break from the game, and I don't remember actively trying to go for it.
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>>502844415
Wdym new stubber?
>Look at news
>New heavy stubber that promises accuracy at range and precision
>No more spending a quarter of the magazine to get 1 gunner at the end of a room
FINALLY
GUNLUGGER IS SO FUCKING BACK!!!!!!!!
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>>502842508
I just need hotshot or a stubber, I want to be in a full game of vets just kicking the door in and blasting. Fuck it would be so much fun
>>502843548
That’s a hotshot charge on a long las from the guants ghosts books, basically overcharging a sniper to fire all of the charge in one shot turning into a mini las cannon and wrecking the gun in the process.
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>>502845330
>stop shootin'
>brace
>wait for crossy to go small
>now you can shoot
You'll figure it out eventually, big man.
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>ogryns being smug about vet not getting anything
>every match is going to missing vets
>looogers trying to spam with ammo aura
OH NO NO NO
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>>502843230
I don't even remember getting it
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>>502843230
accidentally on damnation match, alongside don't get hit at all penance
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>>502845610
ammo aura is a meme and bad aura
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>>502845330
Just fire in bursts or tap fire, it’s good at long range. Even if you wiff the shots the suppression is massive too
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>>502843230
I had more trouble trying to push enemies down the cliff with psyker than that
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>>502845681
lmao
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>needing survivalist in a game that shits out ammo packs

stay in heresy
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>>502845264
I don't remember doing it either but I already have it. Apparently, only 8% of the player base can shoot straight enough to do this though.
>>502845681
It's very helpful for Ogryns rocking grenade launchers or kickbacks. The bigger issue for me is people running by ammo boxes or bags and THEN dropping ammo crates where they don't need to because they're running on empty.
>Fucker, that would have been nice at the finale.
I don't say that, but that's what I'm thinking. Same thing with medpacks.
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>>502845681
Ok bro, I'm sure that 5% move speed is doing work for you.
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for me? close and kill so we finish games faster
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>>502783859
We need this cutie
>cancer sticks are still around
lol
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>>502846124
>>Fucker, that would have been nice at the finale.
People actually save ammo packs? When there's a field improv vet, they just become krak fuel, otherwise I just dump them whenever someone is close to 0% and everyone else is low. I don't see running out of ammo to happen consistently enough to hold onto the thing.
Also this retarded anxiety about wasting consumables is what leads people to save 2 whole-ass medpacks until next mission, then spend half the match floor tanking. Or have someone die because they were too jew/stupid to jab them with the med stimm.
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>>502846124
this artist has a severe case of drawing his girls with microcephaly
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>>502829951
No one can handle the recoil sorry
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>>502833108
orks are bs5+, ogryns are bs4+. ogryns are literally as good shot as the average imperial guard veteran. they're given tard proof weapons because they get cranky when they run out of ammo and start hitting stuff with them.
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Heres a secret they don't want you to know.
You don't need survivalist aura if you simply get to the ammo pickups before your teammates
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>>502847034
first come first serve :)
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>>502847034
he was at orange ammo and obviously needed it more than you, be a better teammate anon.
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>>502846087
It's not my fault my pugs are full of retarded ogryns who eat all ammo even when they don't need it
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>slaughtering heretics and this banger comes on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ozcKqF4E8
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>>502846716
Or just smarter placement of ammo/medpacks. Why put it on the ledge JUST before everyone jumps down? The one pass would be that corruption tree where you can put ammo or meds on the edge for someone to carry a scripture or some shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaotiOp45dg
As far as stims go, I try to monitor teammates and make sure those who need them use them or get used on them but when you're playing in pubs, there's an equal or better chance one of your teammates has a legit Ogryn IQ.
>>502846747
I don't want to go deep into art autism, but believe a large part of muscle mommy styles is drawing women with smaller heads to make their bodies look bigger and to achieve the "cute" look on an otherwise masculine frame. When I brought this up on /a/, the bitching, you would not have believed it.
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>>502846947
Jesus Crag how many generals do you post in on this board
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>they gave ogryn a sniper rifle
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>>502847034
The funny part about this is that the only other person who needs ammo in the team walked right past the ammo. Redditors seethe because
>THE VET TOOK IT ALL!
but I see environmental storytelling
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>>502847034
This is exactly what I’m going to do when the games comes out.
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VET BROS STAY STRONG
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>>502847827
“Muscle mommies” suck anyway but that’s good art. Just the right amount of muscle mass to not be freakish on a woman and no abs
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>>502848524
I'm a muscle mommy enjoyer myself and I receive the prejudiced "safe horny" accusation, all because my fetish was co-opted by certain signalers of a particular political persuasion. Much the same way I don't claim atheism because modern atheists are insufferable asshats, I don't flout any muscle mommy adoration for fear of being aligned with body positivity retards.

I'll hold onto plump women though. No one can take that from me.
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>Heat Activation Mechanic: Generates a heat gauge, building over time. Reaching the limit locks activation briefly (overheat mechanic).
>Special Attack: Sprinting Heavy stab attack for unique engagement tactics.
So zealots will get a melee plasma gun?
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>>502847734
>high intensity shock troop gauntlet
>2 motherfuckers are down, the other is dogged
>warp traveller is playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCMMHN6rBMo&t=58s
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>>502847827
Why is her head tiny
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>>502847034
God watching it again I thought it was just the 2 red bags, there was a small ammo there as well.
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krak grenades are bad
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>>502849605
Please stop shooting the mauler I just need to grenade 7000 more of them for my penance
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>play darktide
>devs state they don't care if people wanna use mods to cheat, it's a coop game
>look inside
>the entire game is server authorative anyway so all the cheats amount to is small petty wallhack tier stuff and automatization and mods can't do anything more, no custom game modes, nothing

>play SM2
>devs state they don't care if people wanna use mods to cheat, it's a coop game
>look inside
>modders are capable of making entire gameplay overhaul mods, adding new weapons and rebalancing everything
>nobody even bothers with actual cheats

weird
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>>502849894
>>play SM2
who
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>>502849284
Again, the muscle mommy aesthetic. The same effect is accomplished in Mecha anime. Arguably, it can be used to accomplish different effects depending on what you're trying to portray. For muscle girls, the proportionally smaller head gives the character a "cuter" look. For Mecha, I'm not sure why smaller heads appear on certain mechas, I think it's some kind of design choice but I'm not mechaphile so I couldn't say.
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>>502849605
You should get 4 of them at base, even then I probably wouldn’t pick them
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>>502849150
Sounds more like a toggle that keeps the power on until overheating or manually deactivated, which is what the powersword should've been from the start.
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>still no official rolling steel release
jesper.. onegai..
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>>502850235
This lmao
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>>502849284
It makes her look more like a man, which is what "muscle mommy" faggots are actually into.
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>>502849605
I do think they're pretty bad, but krak grenades fulfill their intended role of making the monstrosity not be there anymore. I only play qp and I've gotten monumental use out of the damn things with how many retards refuse to bring boss damage into nurgle modifier for some godforsaken reason.
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>>502838905
I bet it is because of GW.
GW is retarded completely ass backwards when it comes to shit like this.
Even on the tabletop it has gotten so bad that what your squad can equip is entirely relagated to what is in the box.
So like take intercessors, only thing they have is bolters, meaning they can only have bolters as weapons as per the unit rules.
And no, it doesn't matter if you bought a kit of hellblasters to give like 1 or 2 ints a plasmagun, that's not allowed, it's all bolters and that is it.

Ogryns are likely the same.
On the tabletop their kit only has ripper guns and grenadier gauntlets.
I wouldn't be surprised if fatshark had to fight tooth and nail to give ogryns at least the kickback, rumbler and stubbers on top because the devs realized that if ogryn as a class only had 2 ranged weapon choices then no one would play it.
I do unironically hope we get more proper heavy weapons for ogryns like an autocannon, an assaultcannon (basically a gatling gun) or even the often requested heavy bolter.
Fatshart just needs to grow some balls and tell GW to fuck off and let them do their thing so players can keep having fun.
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>>502849059
I understand. I like a plump girl too. Just not too plump. It’s all about balance with the body types
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>>502843548
>Can’t Hotshots one shot tanks and shit?
No, you're thinking of lascannons.
las pistol - basic infantry pistol
Lasgun - basic infrantry man rifle
Hotshot lasgun - LMG version of a lasgun
Lascannon - anti-tank weapon on par with 20mm cannons, etc.
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>tabletop talk
Completely out of my element. Never played a game of it in my life. Just luv me lore
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>>502844651
>Wrong!
>Empowering to 500 is retardedly expensive Hadron is a fucking jew
If you play this game a ton you don't need a lot of mats.
I've been upgrading my shit on and off and speedrunning the masteries by sacrificing weapons.
Got to like 40k plasteel from the 80k I started with. And after couple of weeks of playing I'm already back to like 75k plasteel.
And my wallet has like 13-14 million ordo dockets.
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>>502838905
Are we reading the same shit man? It describes it as a marksman weapon, which is going to be extremely useful for special popping on a melee ogryn. Consider that the best, highest range special killing wep on ogryn is currently a fucking shotgun
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>>502845681
>free ammo every 5 seconds
>bad
Terrible bait, but you got me to reply so 2/10.
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>zealots got the power swords

did I just see vets get cucked live?
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>join game
>everyone is down
>leave
>join game
>zealot runs off and leaves everyone behind, I get shot by the 500 shooters he leaves alive
>leave
>join game
>It's the mission failed screen
I'm getting real tired
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>>502850906
There are also hotshot Laspistols that Inquisitors and friends use. I forgot how strong they are though
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>>502850725
I don't really see how assault cannons would be that much different than the twinlinked stubber besides needing to wind up like TF2 heavy and maybe a big more ROF. Besides, asscans are mainly rare SM equipment while gunlooger is characterized by grabbing IG heavy weapons off their tripods and using them by himself, which is why we should be expecting stuff like the autocannon, heavy bolter and multilaser instead.
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>>502851661
>still no shovel for zealoids
you were saying?
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>>502850280
Giving a "muscle mommy" a proportionally smaller head isn't all of it.
You also need to exaggerate/emphasize other parts as well, the easiest way is to widen the hips and making the waist thin.
Also giving them huge boobs helps as well.
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>>502852034
But will they get two-handed shovels?
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>>502852034
Shovels suck anyway. I even say this as an irl owner of a "combat shovel"
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>>502852008
Assault cannons are used by the IG as well, it's not that rare at all, it's just a gatling gun and they don't even shoot special bullets either it's just basic bullets essentially.
Also assault canon would be perfect as "you have a metric fuck of ammo and your fire rate is through the roof, but you can have longer range compared to ripper guns but shorter range compared to stubbers and you only fire it while braced and have a movement penalty."
The current stubbers would be still be good and not as ammo intensive sidegrades.

Having more variety is good, not every weapon needs to have a specific niche.
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>>502843230
More shocked what's on 4.8%
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>>502853051
most ogryn players don't play past malice
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>>502852354
>rats are now pigs
this general ruined me
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>>502850747
Yeah, there's a cutoff point for sure. Gunts are a no-go. Like that muscle mommy strata of varying acceptability, body positivity has practically ruined plump girls. Obese women like to say "pretty at any size" while looking like some Nurgle shit. More discrimination needs to be levied on these obese people. Increase their insurance rates so they have to spend more on that and less on twinkies. Charge them more for plane tickets to lift their fat asses off the ground. Have stores with thin doorways so it's physically impossible for fatties to enter them. Obese people should feel bad about being fat again.
>>502850590
Literal retard Ogryn tier take. Doesn't understand art, sexuality, or gender. Kill yourself.
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>>502843230
I have all the achievements except cliffhanger because i don't really play psyker
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>>502852008
>don't really see how assault cannons would be that much different than the twinlinked stubber
big explosive boolets, for the explosive flavor of "oh fuck everything needs to die real fast im gonna.... IM GONNA.... LOOOOOOOOOOOG
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>>502853936
>Doesn't understand art, sexuality, or gender.
Let's hear your expert explanation, full of understanding sexuality at a higher level than me, as for why you're attracted to women with huge delts and traps, which are significantly androgen receptive muscles, i.e. they grow significantly big to the extent depicted only with a lot of testosterone, making them a male secondary sex characteristic. So why are you attracted to that?
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>>502847827
>When I brought this up on /a/, the bitching, you would not have believed it.
That's weird as I thought everyone knew that. Its especially popular with asian FBB models so you don't see what they really look like until they do photoshoots or interviews as they constantly shop their head/face size.
Thankfully it seems to be a dying trend.
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>>502853936
this topic really got you going
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>>502853883
you can buy them with marks too you know
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>>502854340
probably because he's a gay little twink like all of the muscle mommy faggots
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>>502849059
>he thinks its the politics association that makes people look down on him and laugh at him
cuckolding enthusiasts also try this cope a lot
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>>502838831
>>502841618
Fuck that shit, make it a hellgun with two firing modes.
Low power mode, which is basically infantry lasgun with brace but perfect accuracy at all times
and Overcharge mode, which activates your auto targeter that locks onto elites and specials, cleaves through enemies and does huge, armor piercing damage but fires very slowly

Downside is that you're sightly slower than with any other weapon, 2 dodges and pathetic dodge distance along with a slow draw time
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What's this about havoc? A new difficulty? Is there an ETA?
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>>502856558
Challenge mode, Darktide Weaves Edition. We will all play it to get the penances/cosmetics then never touch it again.
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>>502856558
Where have you been? Havoc is a challenge mode system with rewards for climbing higher on it and weekly rewards as well. Rainbow 6 Extraction had something kind of similar. Release is December 3 like everything else listed
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>>502844926
>Serial killer though, you have to actually aim.
Pretty sure I got it while I was griefing my team trying to get some brainburst penance done, so aim is completely optional.
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>>502856558
Dezember 3
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>>502857101
G*RMAN SPOTTED
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is there a mod that shows what blitz someone has? sick of playing with smitegroids although barreling them is pretty fun
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>>502854340
>>502855579
Your argument is that liking women makes you gay, ergo, you're a retarded faggot.
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>>502857529
It's the same as liking women with beards, it makes you a fag no matter what cope you bring
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>>502857229
You don't even need a mod for that, shitter. Have you only been playing for 5 minutes?
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>>502857229
People who bitch over smite are low tier shitters who can't play themselves.
And are mad that psykers have to make the game easier for you so you can get past malice tier missions.
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>>502857229
There's a message in pre-game at the bottom that says "press key to view", do that it'll show you.
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>>502858408
>liking muscles on women means you want beards on women
the retard takes don't stop with you huh?
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>>502860365
I explained to you exactly why muscular shoulders are a secondary sex characteristics, exactly like beards are. You can keep coping but it doesn't change reality
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>>502860028
During the mission brief "final chance to tweak your loadout" you can see everyone's main ability, aura and blitz ability.
Literally just look at the psyker and see if he has the smite icon.

I think anon is just a faggot who doesn't even play and therefore has no knowledge of the game that he is trying to shitpost about.
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>>502860028
i mean in game
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>>502858408
>It's the same as liking women with beards
You are so weird bro. Won't be surprised when you come out the closet in a few years.
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>>502860492
>i mean in game
literally look at the psyker during combat and see what blitz he has you dumb retard.
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>>502853051
Its actually hard to get the penances that require big hordes since they fucking nerfed horde size
they couldn't cut corners on ANYTHING else?
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>>502858408
>women with muscles is the same as women with beards
Ok, by this logic only thing you are allowed to fuck are corpses who have had all their muscles removed, otherwise it'd be gay after all.
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>>502860659
i would rather use a mod
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>>502860823
>>502860605
>let me just disregard biology
tranny shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sex_characteristic
educate yourselves, swole delts and traps are the exact same degree of sex characteristic as beards and adams apples
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>>502860981
also inb4
>you can work out your muscles
yes but a woman will never reach a similar amount of muscle mass as a man naturally. All those instagram muscle girl models you follow take male hormones to achieve a male secondary sex characteristic and somehow I'm the weird one for pointing it out. Kys
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>>502860981
>>502861201
Just give it up dude. We all know you're a retarded faggot. The real cope is you're so insecure about your sexuality that you project it onto others.
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>>502861303
>just give it up dude
Funny thing to say when the ball is in your court and I presented a facts you can't respond to without admitting you're gay
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>>502861303
btw
>The real cope is you're so insecure about your sexuality that you project it onto others.
I never brought this up, this faggot dropped like 5 straight posts talking about how his weird faggot fetish. Kill yourself for acting like I'm imposing on anyone, faggots just can not keep to themselves. Just go to /lgbt/ if you wanna discuss your little queer fetish without having to face facts
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>>502857229
In the lobby, there's an icon that shows it.
During the mission, just look for sparks coming out of their fingers.
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>>502843230
>400 hours
>every other achievement unlocked
>still only 50/100 on Dream Team
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>>502859526
i know right? just take the easy horde clear and move on, there will be plenty more shit to kill.
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>>502862364
It's not easy because enemies are spread out and stunned
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>>502862908
so its an extra 2 weapon swings before you move on then?
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>brighter shores didn't hit 10k today
it's over...
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>>502862364
>there will be plenty more shit to kill.
everything is spread out and stunned
horde clear becomes less effective
fighting enemies become more boring
the entire game shuts down and we're left hitting dummies. No thanks broski.
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>>502862364
i like being able to proc my zealot and vet buffs
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>>502861450
And you've overcomplicating what is a very simple thing. Your argument is that liking women is gay. There's nothing else to discuss, you're a retarded faggot.
>>502861718
Can't even contain your retardation in one post. I'd posted about it twice before this faggot >>502850590 started shit when I promptly called them out for being a low IQ nigger. Cope harder faggot.
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>>502863224
>>502863352
so adjust then? you guys are acting like the game is unplayable if anything doesn't go perfectly your way.
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>>502863553
adjust what?
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>play with other psykers
>i hate them cause theyre not as smart as me

i love this lore accurate rp
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>Look for my doo doo frame
>it's all the way at the bottom, grey
Good
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>>502863469
stfu already this isnt your fetish forum. go jerk off
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>read the forums a bit
>turns out that coherency toughness doesn't acticate even if you're in coherency with team mates as long as there is even 1 enemy in the coherency range and even if you haven't been hit for like 5 seconds
Who the fuck designed this?
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>haven't played vermintimes since warrior priest
>play champ and take 500 damage each mission
Darktide may have made me complacent. I could maybe get good again but I have my reds, don't see the point.
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wrong, its when 1 enemy occupies a melee slot (i.e. is not a gunner and is actively targetting you with melee attacks)
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>>502863553
>lole just gimp yourself
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>>502864210
darktide makes you lose foresight and caution. If you fuck up and bite off more than you can chew in darktide you can just dodge slide, sprint, vault a ledge, nothing can corner you
in Vermintide if you do this you must face the consequences unless you play one of the few careers with an "ope get me out" button
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>>502863553
Okey let me explain it like this:
With smiggers (psykers who spam smite all the time) there's no game left to play. There's no need need to block, push, push attack, dodge or evade, suppress, slide, or practically do anything at all. Just hit the disabled NPCs. You might as well just enter the psykanium and hit the dummies there. It's not about smite being good or bad. It's a party pooper.
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>>502864131
ogrynomicon says its top tier so you should take it anyway
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>>502864265
meant to reply to >>502864131
the difference being that coherency range is pretty big. its a stat you get some use out of if its not a melee segment thats it
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>>502864763
there is because they inevitably die or explode
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What do you even do when you get jumped by ragers at melee range
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Smoke grenades are actually really really good
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>>502865653
depends on your weapons but if you have absolutely nothing, dodge slide outta there and kite
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>>502864265
>>502864905
That is still retarded. Having enemies, melee enemies or not, in your coherency range should not block you from regening through coherency.
It should be enough that you haven't gotten hit/taken damage for like 3 seconds during a fight and then it starts to regen your toughness back.
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>>502865653
>Ogryn/Zealot
Left click
>Veteran with autogun
hip fire
>Pysker
play a better class
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>>502866258
>>Pysker
>play a better class
Use smite.
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>>502865653
depends on your loadout. grenades, skills, or weapons that have enough stagger to interrupt their attacks make them easier. Generally hold block and dodge away to get an opening to attack. Scab ragers you can just walk away from but Dreg Ragers have huge movement.
Full stack block efficiency on low mobility weapons like Power Sword is useful to stay alive while waiting for an opening or waiting for your dodges to reset.
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>>502865969
Extremely useful on Rolling Steel, to cut off sections and force those specials up into melee range.
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>>502865653
Stab them in the face with my shovel then beat their confused ass as they try to understand what just happened.
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>>502865969
throw it on someone netted and theyre invisible
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lol I thought I was a sweet brute but turns out I was nothing but a reprehensible slab
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>>502852354
I FOUND IT
IT'S ONLY FOUND IN NEW UI
FATSHARK!
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>>502866258
>psyker
>fire staff perma staggers them
>trauma knocks them over
>electro stuns them until they explode
>force sword push knocks them over
>deimos heavy poke knocks them over
>dueling sword lol
just because you don't understand the class does not make it bad.
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>>502868061
Where's this pic from bubba chups
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>>502867917
you can equip weapons skins in versus only in new ui as well
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>>502868235
wait you can have weapon skins in versus???
omg fatshaaaaark!!!
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>>502868061
Both look nice even if a bit basic.
Still would've liked fatshark to add more weapons.
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>>502868185
it's
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>>502865969
WRONG
it's the worse grenade in the game by far
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>>502868814
worst then what?
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>>502843230
The what now?
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>>502868814
Your reasoning?
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>wish to play shit psyker builds (for penance purposes)
>not a lot of boss damage but I have good crowd clear
>mutated horrors modified
>end up fighting at least 7 BoN + 1 PO + 2 DH (post game someone said it was >10 but surely not)
>am a useless fuck and end up popping 5 times throughout the mission (actual skill issue)
How does the modifier change the spawn rate of bosses? sometimes I get 2, usually 3, but that was unreal.
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>>502868578
I like em simple and basic. if you want something fancy just buy a skin
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>>502868235
do they have to be the versus skins or any skins? I can't find them
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>>502868235
oh nvm
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>the dead trapper immediately gives way to another trapper that is already firing

stupid FUCKING game
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>>502869261
Nta, but smokes are just bad because they are inconsistent as all hell and half the time you are not sure if they are working at all or if they work as intended.
Yes it cuts off the line of sight from shooter enemies, like snipers and gunners.
But these things rarely go towards you, gunners and snipers will just walk around in the backline lining up shots or just keep firing anyway.

It'd be better if the smoke nades worked like the tox bombers, ie. It creates a cloud that debuffs/damages enemies while buffing allies.
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>>502869538
>Durrrr there are three times as many boss monsters as usual is that related to the new special condition?

Do you also get confused when you go into a high intensity shock trooper gauntlet and there are way more specials than usual?
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Holy fuck Veteran is getting cucked so hard. Just sitting there in the chair in the corner. Watching zealot have his way.
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so the voidblast staff was absolutely gutted, right?
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>>502870746
Best staff in the game
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>>502870232
I was referring to the modifier.
Most I've had before was 5 but this was stupid.
The bosses were literally spawning on top of each other.
I was looking for an explanation of how the director decides how to spawn them.
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>>502870232
To be fair I had the same reaction when I played that modifier for the first time.
Iirc there was nothing in the patch notes or in game that the Mutated Horrors would amp up BoN spawns. I could be wrong though.
The Lights out modifier is similiar but it spawns more DHs instead, and iirc that info is never conveyed anywhere.
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am I missing something or chainaxe is just a faster evi?
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>>502870781
Then why is it every psyker uses surge?
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How do i make darktide run better on my fucking toaster?
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>>502870451
What are you talking about?
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>>502870451
Honesly speaking only zealots and psykers are getting new cool shit.
Ogryn getting just another stubber but with 1 barrel this time isn't super existing either.
Imo the single barrel stubber should've just been the autocannon instead, since it'd work the same realistically.
Unbraced - either full auto or burst fire.
Braced - semi auto accurate shots
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>>502871128
because a youtuber made a left clic meme surge build
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>>502871312
maybe you should try getting a job
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>>502871327
Ogryn badly needs anti-armor guns though
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>>502871423
>he typed, sitting in his mom's basement
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>>502871423
Ah right, Amerimutt hours means unhelpful kids fresh out of school.
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>>502871326
the two handed power sword is going to Zealot, and Veteran doesn't get it, despite PS being a Vet exclusive weapon.

Also Veteran isn't getting any new weapon.

Cucked.
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>>502871327
>Ogryn getting just another stubber but with 1 barrel this time isn't super existing either.
Speak for yourself, sniveler. I have been using nothing but the kickback and an alternative is more than welcome
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>>502871107
It gets stuck chewing on stuff on some attack patterns depending on the mark and has less cleave so isn't as good at horde-clear.
But if you just want something for deleting elites then its a perfectly suitable alternative.
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>>502870781
>muh stagger
damage is complete dogshit and you get like 3 uses before full peril
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>>502871448
>Ogryn badly needs anti-armor guns though
Which again, could've just been the autocannon.
For fuck sakes it is called an autoCANNON for a reason. It's 20mm cannon firing solid slugs, that shit will punch through armor.
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>>502871556
There isn't any trick here retard, just get a job and upgrade your toaster already. Darktide isn't even a demanding game
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>>502871830
yeah yeah we get it you don't know how to use it and it's your way begging for a build, not very subtle
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>>502871610
>I have been using nothing but the kickback and an alternative is more than welcome
Alternative already exists for you, it's called the "gorgonum" twin-linked heavy stubber.
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>>502871107
Chainaxe is harder to use but better against armored elites. I think Chaxe is more well rounded, but the Eviscerator's mindless LMB spam is fun regardless. I use both regularly.
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>>502871987
uh... seethe much?
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>>502871876
Kill yourself, anon.
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>>502872065
And it sucks
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>>502872547
I refuse
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>>502872547
he's right, we need to poorshame thirdies out of coop games
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>>502825903
if player.skill(bad) {
use shield
use kickback
use ogryn frag gernade
}
else {
waitforupdate();
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I'm getting versus fatigue
been grinding too hard
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>>502833297
>autocannon, assault cannon, heavy bolter
It would be lore breaking if they shit like that.
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>>502832702
>precise
>what's kickback

should've just buff ogryn range weapon instead of introduce new weapons.
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>>502871312
Fellow european here. Try to get the government to increase your benefits and try finding something in the migrant hotel that you can sell so you can buy a better computer. Inshallah
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>>502872726
but what will americans play then?
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>>502872715
>>502872726
>>502873150
Thank you for confirming, once again, that this is the worst general on the board, full of retarded children eager to throw shit at each other.
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Yeehaw
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>>502873421
that's right eurocuck this is an american board
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>>502872696
Will not suck anymore or less than the new single barreled stubbers.
All of which have been already described to slow firing, but accurate guns, just like the gorgonum.
The new guns are just gonna be 3 new gorgonums, but the brace function is an accurate single shot. While gorgonum is also very accurate, that you can tap fire while braced which gives you a slow but accurate 2 round burst.
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How warm and soft do you think Hadron's flesh hand is?
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>>502873421
>Thank you for confirming, once again, that this is the worst general on the board
Not even close
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>>502873421
>this is the worst general on the board
how fucking new are you
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>>502873898
It's not that accurate
It's slow
The new guns will all be fairly accurate and 1 of the 3 models might very well have the right mix of pullout speed, accuracy and damage to replace the kickback
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>Don't have someone on the team with invis dome shield smoke grenade
>specialist wave auric with shitty tree hack finale.
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>>502873421
>wahhh why am I not being spoonfed
you could just google it you know there's no secrets here
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>Psyker gets Moonlight Greatsword
>Ogryn gets Big Bertha autogun
>Zealot gets Berserk power sword with a unique sprint attack and a unique melee heat mechanic
WHERE
THE
FUCK
IS
THE
GODDAMN NIGGERING LMGS FOR VETERAN
FUUUUUUUUUUCK
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Veterans get a nightsider gf
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>>502871423
>>502871876
>>502872715
>>502872726
>>502873150
>>502873579
>>502873961
>>502874007
>>502874317
embarrassing retards
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Veterans get free grenades
Shut the fuck up
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>>502872949
Ogryns use autocannons in the lore, they are specifically called GUNLUGGERS in the fluff.
Also ogryns using shit like heavy bolters wouldn't be an issue or weird, especially in an inquisitorial warband and strike team which are basically skilled special forces in their own right.
Only thing ogryn weapons need to be is to be made retard proof. And it is specifically what forgeworld Lorenz does and specializes in making heavy weapons, but also making heavy weapons for ogryns to wield, and Lorenz was introduced in Darktide itself.
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The new weapons for Veteran are so good they get their own blog post
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>>502875385
seething wont help you escape government housing
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>>502875385
>embarrassing retards
You don't like it when we embarrass retards? Too bad. Just don't be retarded
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>>502874131
>It's not that accurate
You can easily and reliably kill snipers from 70 meters with it.
>It's slow
So will be the new single barrel stubbers, fatshark already confirmed this.
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>>502875826
The achlys is fast but kills slow and is inaccurate
I am hoping for a single shot achlys that is more accurate and does more damage per shot while being as fast to pullout and aim
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nothing for vets?
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>Enemy entire team are newfags with 2 literal noobs who must have picked this game up a day ago at best, but most likely probably an hour ago
>My entire team are lvl 35 players who in addition clearly played dozen Versus matches already, including one guy who grinded to colored rank already
>Enemy team gets INSTANTLY killed off after jumping over starting fence at Against the Grain
>They leave and game essentially turns into Skaven coop mode with AI bot heroes and ends
Fatshark what the fuck. At the very least my team should have been cut in half and 2 players put into enemy team. Matchmaking is ridiculous here.
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>>502876203
You got the power sword early
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>>502875385
It's Darktide hours, what are you expecting?
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>elfs
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MIGRATE
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>>502876615
>It's Darktide hours
As opposed the pedo and bestiality posting rat hours
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>>502876203
vet weapons will be revealed in the full update preview
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>play martyrdom zealot
>never go down
>can still feel the visceral seethe from people when I don't heal at med stations
Why? One guy even went ballistic on me on the mic over it
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Now we know none of you fuckers read. They said there will be a separate write up for vets and their new gear coming.
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>>502876721
too early brownie retard
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when will they delete lights out, ventilation, and pox gas? garbage mods.
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>>502876696
Trollhammer my beloved
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>BoN appears
>Kill it
>Get to the next room another BoN appears
>Psyker get's vored 50% of the time
it's like fucking random encounters in old jrpgs
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Next faggot Vet to go “BUT WHAT ABOUT US??????” gets nothing for a whole a year. I’ve spoken to Fatshark and they agree with this.
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>>502873421
>itz da wurst jennareld!!!!!
Funny how every general has a retard who says this
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>>502872726
he was right btw
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>>502878440
Does anyone actually play a single class exclusively?
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>>502861718
These people are correct for the record. This is literal tranny shirt. Women can’t gain any substantial muscle mass or abs without frank and they need at least 10 of their body fat to have healthy hormone regulation for pregnancy. You have been psyopped if you find that shit attractive.
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>>502864210
Great image
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>>502875695
Kekkin
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>>502876696
*Elves
Retard



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