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cryboomering about dual spec edition
>doesn't even come until after launch (most likely Molten Core or later)
>it costed 50g in SoD, which is unaffordable with all the money you need while leveling, getting professions up, and acquiring your first mount
>this somehow ruins fresh even though the best part about fresh is all the people leveling together

old: >>502723148
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nelf face with eyeliner is the caretaker /ss/.
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me otw to redridge to gank you
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>>502723148
>never played war, thinking about it on fresh
>start messing with sim and horde racials
>orc and troll are so close it literally doesn't matter
>check warcraftlogs, it's mixed orcs/trolls
wait what the FUCK??? i can actually be a trollchad as war? i may be sold...
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Any explanation for why this general is so bad?
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everytime i play alliance i am infuriated byt the layout of stormwind and ironforge to a lesser extent
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>>502750264
its filled with people who play wow in 2024
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>>502750264
mentally ill boomers
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>>502750153
Whats?
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>>502750079
>three super mega servers with dynamic """auto"""balanced shardts
Whoops, just got phased into a fresh group of mobs. The cost of balance, by rolling on a PVP server, you understand.
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>>502750218
Its what I'm rolling when I pick furyprot, you generate fuckloads of threat that way
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>I'm not playing because Dual Spec!

I guarantee absolutely nobody will miss you.
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>>502750334
can we help them be less obnoxious?
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>>502750393
i got something you can phase onto right here pal
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>>502750313
Yeah, having paved roads and houses and shops that haven't been firebombed has that effect on hordelets
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>>502750361
caretaking sex with /ss/
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>>502750393
as opposed to.. not having any mobs to kill?
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With the druid hot changes will i find more raid spots as a druid?
Or should i just stay shaman?
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>>502750264
boomers mixed with streamer hypebeasts
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Your childhood is never coming back.
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>holy heck we have duel spec now, that means that despite being a dogshit player i can farm on my hybrid!

>meanwhile rogues no longer need to respec back and forth between pve spec and gank spec
thanks reddit. t-hybrid who had no problem farming
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>>502750313
why?
their maps are really easy to understand and have a lot of connecting paths, org is so much worse
but tb is the best and it's not even close
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JAB was right
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>>502750776
Japanese Adult Bideo?
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>>502750218
>horde has axe spec
>all the best warrior weapons are swords
really makes you think
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>>502750664
unless you were raiding in a hardcore/decent guild I doubt it would be much different. Regrowth only knocked off buffs if the player was literally 100% max buffs every wbuff and every consume possible. Also, we don't even have ZG buff yet or dire maul, early on this makes little difference. Play whatever you want really, but you're going to be more in demand playing rshaman.
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>>502750754
>PvE spec
Nobody is inviting rogueS to raid, now open the fucking box, cuck.
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>you're a poor, struggling, low hp brownie
>this guy walks by, buffs, heals, and flexes at you
>types nothing and walks away
how do you respond?
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>>502750870
the axe of madness is good too!!!
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>>502750218
I normally roll troll/tauren for most of my characters but I'm craving some shoes this time around so I'm rolling orc
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>>502750903
This isn't TBC retard, Rogues actually have a spot in raids
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>>502750264
its really really really easy to be good at this game even if you are literally retarded in real life so it brings a lot of wannabe degens to the table
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>>502750946
/ty
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>>502750946
buy a gallon of milk
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what are some Timmy, Johnny, and Spike race/class combos to you?

>Timmy
Night elf hunter

>Johnny
Gnome warlock

>Spike
Human warrior
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>>502750946
this exact druid gave me 100 gold back in 2019 classic in desolace when I was leveling my priest for giving him coords on rexxar for his ony attune.
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>>502750946
I will still cuck your raid spot shit druid.
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>>502750983
>every minmax retard (the entire classic community) is rolling warrior
>this dipshit thinks he will be invited to a raid where 15 warriors are already competing for gear
literal drooling subhuman, were you raised by mentally retarded parents? kill yourself
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>>502751061
kek, this. Druids who buff you are goated.
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>>502750983
i never understood this. back in tbc i did very well on the meters as rogue. maybe everyone else was just that bad.
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>>502751003
so you think that people here are obnoxious even by 4xhan standards due to an inflated sense of skill and relevance?
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>>502749772
50g is nowhere near enough. the ability to start ignoring 50g respect costs permanently should be weighed individually by each player, it shouldn't be a no brainer. if you consider that the average money making method at lvl 60 is, like 50g per hour you'd only lose 1hr of max level progress. if dual spec is to make any sense, it needs to be essentially a continuation of the post 60 progression. 1000g is probably a sweetspot since it would put it head to head with the 100% mount which most people will choose over dual spec i think, and that'd be 10-20 hrs of farming, which is not unreasonable.

also, even though metrics from other games don't count, they can be a helpful reference. in OSRS if you want your house to have a fountain that heals you to full, cures poison and restores prayer+run energy, you are looking at something like a 5 hr time investment, and that's assuming you have the money to pay for it all, with average moneymaking, the opportunity cost is something like 20-30 hours spent on moneymaking, but it gives you essentially a massive QoL for the rest of your hours spent in the game.

dual spec is an absolutely massive gamechanger for some classes, it needs to be priced accordingly which in my case, would come down to 1000-1500g at average max level money making efficiency (whcih i just assumed is 50g, but 20-30hrs of farming is basically my suggestion)
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>>502750153
>nelf face with eyeliner
most nelf faces look like they have eyeliner, it's called being a quarter of a century old 3d model
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I'm a hybrid and I'm actually upset about dual spec.
I was going to play dps, and now not only are the actual healers going to be rolling on ALL my fuckin' loot. I am going to be expected to heal constantly.

fuck dual spec.
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>>502751124
rogues tier gear will drop and its more efficient to give someone rogue tier and daggers than it is to disechant the rogue tier gear and give some warrior a dagger for 2% more threat when fury/prot already cant lose aggro.

having 20 warriors in a raid isnt going to work because of the gear competition, at least until late in the stage when one hardcore guild cannibalizes others for nax.
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>>502751124
Literally look up any top log clear in classic and it will have more than 1 rogue
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>>502751353
not a problem if you're in a guild with people who like you
you're not pugging with randoms because you're such an unlikable piece of shit right anon?
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How do i find someone to teach me what stuff to look out for in hc as a first time player
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>>502751104
You need to say one (3) nice things about druids
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>>502751343
it's the caretaker face
you will find it when you see it
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dual spec making all the retarded boomers seethe is fucking hilarious I cant believe these fucking retards are real lmao
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Will we have a 4chan guild on PVP EU?
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>>502751408
I usually find decent guilds, unfortunately my favorite one quit playing when cata came out and don't seem to have plans on reforming.

My point still stands though.
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>>502751446
Could watch a guide (lol) but outside of that which region do you play? Post that like a day before launch and say you're looking for someone to duo with or something and you'll probably have takers
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>>502751319
it's not a game changer for anyone because you could completely circumvent this by just buying gold. people keep trying to argue against dual spec without actually having a point.
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>>502751469
What the HELL
does this MEAN
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Licking my lips at all the meme specs and 'dps' healers classes i am going to filter
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If you actually like classic you'd play ERA. You want change, you wanted fresh because you wanted something different. Era is classic.
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>>502751562
Trandate of heaven announced one, it's horde.
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>>502751446
Caves are the most dangerous part because of respawns. If a quest has you kill stuff in a cave then kill the stuff around the entrance.
Kill things 1 by 1 and learn how to strafe jump away from stuff so your back doesnt get hit when running from mobs.
Other than that there are a few quests which summon mobs. be prepared to run if they bug out and summon too many at a time or something.
Dont fight anything higher level than you if melee. use a ranged to pull mobs to a safe spot to fight them and look around where you fight to see if anything is nearby or pathing around.
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>>502751446
>first time player
>hardcore
the most reddit thing I've ever seen
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>>502751738
Of course it is, 4chan wouldn't play on the reddit faction
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>>502751686
new cope just dropped!
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>>502751804
it's actually an old cope.
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>>502751686
era is dogshit where finding groups is impossible and crusader enchant costs like 3k gold. Its just guys in nax gear with 100k gold abusing everyone else. Era could be deleted entirely and only faggots would care.
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never cheat
never lie
vanilla fresh
until I die
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>>502751650
care taking sex with /ss/
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>>502751686
I want fresh the same way someone wants a new ladder season in an ARPG. This is not hard to understand if you aren't an autistic tranny.
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Where can I see dps charts for classic? Like actual numbers?
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Tonight, gotta leave that 9-5 up on the shelf
And just enjoy yourself
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>>502751918
where's the full rez
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>>502751934
autistic tranny here, even I understand it
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>>502751794
They were alliance last time so nah.
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>>502751990
you don't want to see penis
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>>502751623
and you can cicrumvent everything else by buying an account, your argument is fucking stupid.
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>>502751990
private
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>>502751904
gnome is good
gnome is great
gnome took a shit
on your face
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>>502751943
https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/
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im a horde main but i have dreams of servicing night elf futa
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>>502751124
you have never been in a raid in classic and it shows
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Don't worry undead magie


Hillsbrad is a totally safe area to start your AoE farm journey at level 22.

No alliance druid is going to pounce on you when you go below 40% HP with 10 (allied to me lol) angry human farmers on your ass. No need to worry! You're totally safe! Gotta think of that XP/hour amiright xD?
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fury? kekbab?
No, actually, I'm an Arms chad. The blade of the Lionheart, the executioner, hand farmed organically through tanking heroics/raids and yoinking nethers. It is what it is
>*tops dps charts with secret chad tech*
you were saying?
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>>502752290
>druid
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>>502751657
u mean you don't want a paladin auto attacking (he spams strafe between attacks) in your group incapable of casting off heals and blessings on other people?
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reminder that the debuff limit removal is a gigantic balance change
raids in general are gonna get a double digit increase in overall dps, on average
the optimal spec and rotation for most classes is going to change at least slightly as a result of this
some classes pretty much go from completely unviable to somewhat useful (ex. shadow priest) and this change is going to affect the raid compositions you see during the life of the new classic servers
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What class would he play in fresh?
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>>502752226
sorry alliance only
cut your balls off
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>>502751918
>toned back NE
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is character cloning confirmed yet or not? I only want vanilla
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nillers be like "flying heckin ruined traveling the world" as they sit in sw/org waiting on warlock summons
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>>502752368
warriors get the biggest DPS increase from the change
hybrids and warlocks are still shit comparatively
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>>502752368
Balance and Spriest still go OOM within 30 seconds. It literally doesn't matter, SoD removed the debuff limit and nothing happened. At best some classes will do a couple % more DPS.
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>>502752378
female NE who dances naked on the mailbox and begs people for gold
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Is there a class that doesn’t rely so much on engineering to pvp? I want to be a comfy leatherworker.
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>>502752474
>Warlocks already buff all melee DPS with Curse of Weakness
>Spriest buffes all Warlocks now
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>>502751779
lol and im playing woyer ik its kinda silly
>>502751598
NA i guess? i dont know how the regions are in this game. isnt launch in like 3 days? ok ill try
>>502751748
ty, im gonna try to do the quests that scare me in a group i just didnt know how to actually find people, and i dont wanna group with other new people as much in case i get killed, also i figure there's alot of vets that can help me out anyway
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>thank god they added dual spec, now i can switch to feral or boomkin and still not get invites unless im resto
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>>502752290
Maybe you can do that in 3-4 weeks after launch.
But in the first few weeks these areas will be swarmed and you will get ganked for that.
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>>502752604
>Feral for farming/questing/pvp
>resto for raid
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>>502752494
SoD changed every aspect of the game and the class balance/the meta that formed are irrelevant to what fresh classic is gonna be. you are pretty much implying "SoD is just classic WoW with the debuff limit removed" and that is beyond retarded
yea shadow priests will still be bad in a lot of ways, but they are getting a personal dps increase of like 20%+ and also now bring a huge DPS bonus for all warlocks with shadow weaving. they are infinitely more justifiable than before, and this is the case with a bunch of meme specs that now are actually arguably useful as 1-ofs in the raid
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>>502752604
Do you even get invites as a resto? lol
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>>502752604
desu yeah why not. resto druids are shit anyway. you only need those tree lover faggots to cast faerie fire on mobs and innervate on priests. as long as boomies can do that why not
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>>502752604
Shut your whore mouth brownie bitch Boomkin NGCSS 21-25-6-1-2 spec is going to be top DPS with these changes
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>>502752359
paladins make me want to reach through my monitor and punch people
>playing sod
>literally fucking dead at lower levels
>after like an hour manage to scrounge a group together for stockades
>paladin """healer""" wants to come
>i know how this is gonna go but im desperate
>human female, zero healing gear, mostly greens/white gear
>all good we should be able to smash this it's sod after all
>she spams consecrate, presses all the dps buttons, does the little micro strafing
>only when im close to dead does she stop to heal
>"tank pull more"
>say i will if i'm confident that the heals will be able to keep me aline
>paladin is like "AKSHUALLY IM TOP DPS LOL STFU WARRIOR WE DONT EVEN NEED YOU"
>fuck it, ill pull multiple rooms
>paladin doesn't even get a heal off, we wipe
>mage loses it at the paladin
>i leave the group and log off

>another time im trying to do the redridge elite orc quests
>there's only 3 of us, no healer yet
>oh a paladin wants to come
>say "great we should smash this with a healer"
>paladin is like "bold of you to assume i'm a healer"
>uh ok... whatever
>another human female, refuses to cast a single heal
>so we wipe at the first group of elites outside the keep, everyone scatters and runs away
>warlock is like "paladin why didn't you press your heal?" as he's lying dead on the ground
>"GUESS YOU SHOULD HAVE ROLLED A CLASS THAT CAN HEAL HUH?" as she is spamming /sit to teabag the lock
>call her an unhinged lunatic and drop group
i swear pinkies are just mentally ill manchildren with massive chips on their shoulders. i fucking hate them all
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>>502752810
No you will just go oom faggot.
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>>502752783
One r.druid is good for raids, but yeah could be any spec honestly doesn't matter
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Debating between lock or sham for hc 'tism, thoughts?
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>>502752558
>letting spriests into your raid
LOL
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>2 years until wotlk classic era servers
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>>502752783
PVE is a joke so they can easily soloheal any of the 5 mans, so yea they get plenty of invites for dungeons
for raids they are pretty much just a fraction of a priest in terms of raw healing, but they also bring some nice utility. raid benefits massively bringing one for the mark buff, but also the stacking bonuses of an extra battleres/innervate for each additional druid definitely helps justify their raid slots
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>>502753003
>skipping on +20% magical damage boost on top of curse of elements
every raid that has warlocks will have Spriest
It's even possible Warlocks will nuke Warriors now even in Naxxramas.
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>>502753057
can't wait to do Naxx and ToCG again Wrathsissy
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easier to pay for sub with gold on classic or retail?
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>>502752873
Gigachadette Retribution Paladins shitting on the brownie, who gets so angry hw ends up yapping a whole three paragraphs on an anonymous Cantonese Yoghurt Synthesizing Forum.

Holy based. They're probably having 5x more fun than your spergy ass lol
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>>502752873
its SoD which was basically like a hybrid class power trip server of special rules to make hybrids (and priests because a main dev played a priest) mini hero classes. All the people who liked those changes and thought they were good balance were mentally ill.
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>>502751171
iirc it was very gear based from what I could tell. Especially DST being a thing in early TBC
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>>502753242
yeah it was an absolute mistake even rolling a character there. biggest waste of time
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>>502752558
>>502753003
>>502753161
>shadow priest
lol lmao even
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>>502752873
>ret paladin healing and out dpsing at the same time
>you sperg, wipe the group and quit
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>>502752873
a case study on why to no roll on alliance
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>>502753109
You are stupid and i hope i never see you as a raid leader.
Druids are literally dogshit.
You only bring 1 druid max.
Shaman and priest are just better and have more raid spots always than druid.
Unless the druid hot stacking changes turn them into super healers (which i doubt very much) they will never get many raid spots.
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PVE, Horde or Alliance
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>>502753214
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>>502752873
Based female humie paladin out-DPS'ing you while also tanking and healing. What we're you even doing you sperg?
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>>502753432
PvE is for alliance
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>>502753357
are u merely pretending?
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>>502753432
Human Warrior
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It's amazing to me how literally every single one of Aggrend's takes is awful. Like right now on Twitter he's talking about how bad it feels to lose your world buffs when you wipe in a raid. And how now you don't have to worry about that.

How did this faggot get in charge of classic?
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>>502753456
>paladin isn't tanking
>paladin isn't healing
did we read the same post?
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>>502752873
holy melty
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>>502752935
Please some input, I know there are people who have HCed these classes to 60 here.
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>>502752873
>she spams consecrate, presses all the dps buttons, does the little micro strafing
that was my alt playing, sorry you can't hang with me, /wowcg/ shitters
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>>502753587
do they not expire on death anymore or something?
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>>502753408
bro PVE is easy chill out
most of the time the issue is just getting 20/40 bodies together to do the raid, not min-maxing the raid comps
I 100% guarantee you druids will get slots in raids as healers beyond the first in most cases (i.e. not min-max nolife speedrun type raids), and that the people forming the raid will use the reasoning I said (accepting druids as slightly sub-optimal healers but with more stacking utility benefit than priests)
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>>502753587
have you ever tried to think outside your own experience?
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>>502753357
>>502753456
>>502753214
>>502753641
sometimes I wonder what compels people to samefag
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>>502753593
Well you were clearly being a beta so she took the initiative away and did every one of your jobs plus her own plus the DPS.

Next time don't be such a little bitch, a tank is supposed to lead, no have his healer go loose and just fucking take over your job lmao
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Rolling horde this time around to camp all the alliance retail tourists in redridge with a pet named "nodualspec".
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>>502753432
Horde is the long term investment if you enjoy TBC more
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>>502753664
Warlock will always win for the leveling process but shaman will have an easier time getting a raid spot if you're resto.
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>>502753741
you're right, should have kicked the paladin at the start
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>>502752935
>>502753664
Sham is awful. Highest death rate too I believe, literally zero good outs.

Warlock is boring as fuck but eventually you'll snap and over pull because you feel invincible, then you realize you're playing a class which has zero mobility and get gibbed by your own overconfidence.

Just level a Hunter, Rogue, Druid or even a Mage on HC, they're far more enjoyable.
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>>502753587
why aggrend loves to talk about a game he never played?
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All classes are viable, f***ing clown.
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>>502753997
I have no idea who Aggrend is, but if that screenshot represents the peak of his performance in classic he is awful at the game and probably has no idea what he is talking about
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Gonna level as Balance Druid
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>>502752935
>Debating between lock or sham for hc 'tism, thoughts?
I've levelee warlock in HC completely naked with just a white vendor wand and no talents used at all and been perfectly fine. That's how great they are at solo questing.
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>>502750746
it would have if redditors didn't ruin things
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>>502753802
I'm going to use a black wolf or bear named bbc and only use eyes of the beast
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>>502754004
Not to timmy, raid leader, who thinks your shaman isn't optimal enough
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>>502753161
who cares, you can just get another warrior and have more damage
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>>502753432
horde for sure. you'll be thankful you did, especially in the long run.
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>>502750079
>costed

Cringe brown ESL
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>>502754090
classic wow / SoD lead dev. this is the guy making changes and "improving" vanilla for you lol
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>>502752935
>>502754097
To add to this, I would recommend getting a threat meter so you can see when you're going to lose agro on your void walker, and plan for it. You can also get the feel of how much DPS you can do before he loses agro. Nothing can stop you other than not knowing patrol routes and where opposing faction guards are.
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Based have fun bro
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>PvP will be all warriors and rogues
what class mogs them the hardest in world pvp?
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>>502754125
shaman is one of the most needed healers so that is kinda a bad example for the joke bro
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>>502754264
mage, lock, spriest
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why do people say that shaman can tank dungeons? Sure, you can snap single target threat but so can practically everything
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>>502754063
is pally dps good or not? pallies should not dps if its bad, and if its not bad people shouldnt complain about dps pally, so which is it? im new i genuinely dont know.
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Alright faggots, talk me out of rolling Rogue.
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>>502754004
But half the talent trees are not viable.
Most hybrid specs are just forced to be healers...
That is bad design if you have useless trees.
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Is Shaman DPS good in classic?
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>>502754319
Don'tplay any of these classes or combos. It creates mustard gas
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>>502754413
half the server will be
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>>502754264
>warriors
mages and shadow priests
>rogues
warriors and locks if they are alliance
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>>502752873
Meanwhile when I am dual boxing on my Horde priest, I will heal up any struggling solo player, buff them, and help them with elite mobs. There has always fundamentally been something wrong with Ally paladin players, and it's Blizzards fault for putting false ideas in their minds.
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>>502753305
Oh shit nigga. Warlocks just dont get 20% damage boost they get 20% drain life effect too! Shadow Priest will literally be in every Raid now.
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>>502754370
pally is pretty much the worst dps in the game
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>>502754370
it's relatively bad but the game is retarded easy so it only truly matters if you're tank is trying to do godly pulls.
I am a pretty humble tank so I take all meme specs and just run the dungeon at a regular pace.
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>>502754264
Hunters fuck everyone.
Warlocks get fucked by rogues.
Rogues get fucked by warriors.
Warriors get fucked by mages.
Mages get fucked by druids.
Druids get fucked by priests.
Hunters fuck everyone (again).
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>>502754432
Its dogshit in PvE.
Shaman dps is only good in PvP.
Inv PvE you are forced to be a healer as a shaman.
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>>502754370
surely you aren't serious with this post
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>>502754506
Yes do try that and tell me how it goes retard
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>>502754370
it literally does not fucking matter for 5 mans. you can clear with 3 people for god's sake. ret is perfectly fine in 5 man because they bring lay, bop, buffs, sac+bub, etc. ret is fucking dogshit in raids, but you can clear the game with actual baboons so whatever
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>>502754432
it's acceptable
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>>502754454
try harder
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>>502754506
why would you care about 20% of increased drain life when you can get 40% of increased shadow bolts thanks to both shadow weave and power infusion?
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Alright, talk me out of rolling NE huntress or NE roguess
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Haven't tried out Warlock in a long time, is this an okay leveling spec?
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>>502754693
That's all you needed to hear if you have half a brain, also no warrior wants you in dungeons
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>>502754370
it has auto attack and judgement every 10 seconds (8 with 2 talent points). it's by far the worst dps in the game yet paladins will insist on burdening everyone else around them with their shit dps because "well the game is old and easy haha deal with it faggot"
so no, we just opt out of playing with them. it's really that simple.
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play what you like, the game is easy and you'll be able to find a group as anybody if you're a cool person with something to offer
but please don't play ret, because for some reason that's the only hybrid people try to push
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>>502754642
>ret is fine because you can get carried in dungeons
Just wear the fucking dress.
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>>502753721
Man fat pikachu was the best version.
Why did they make it thin...
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>>502754760
that's not good enough
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>>502754719
If you do like 8k crit you get like 2k hp back
thats like 1-2 life taps
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>>502754620
Literally will go fine.my dude.
There are no hard fights in classic that matter what you bring..
Just going to take longer.
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>>502754776
this. ill invite boomkins before ret. oh wait..i'm horde haha
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I'm getting Atiesh this time.

AND Hand of Ragnaros.
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By all means, play whatever meme spec you like. But that doesn't mean I will invite you.
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>>502754752
I put like 13 points in destro as a lock leveling. they come out of the demo side.
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>>502754896
Me actually sis
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How feasible is Dual Warglaives exactly
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>>502754824
>does 8k crit
>pulls aggro and dies
Wow so much hp back
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>>502754752
check for dive's drain tanking pdf. 3rd fastest leveling spec after mages and hunters
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>>502754787
they needed a stronger silhouette for their mascot. pikachu's outline is way more recognizable with a defined head and body. now nobody in the world will mix up pikachu for another mascot
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>>502754750
I'm not, both sound like a good time and have some of the best animations in the game.
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>>502754973
wrong game, tranny
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>>502754975
then wand it bro like i said warlocks will nuke the living shit out of bosses now and get back as hp
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i'll invite anybody if you pay attention, boomies performing duties perfectly are infinitely better than braindead melee dps
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>>502753587
You have two different groups of people in gaming, those who think that every single inconvenience is a design flaw and that games should be as easy as possible and basically just glorified interactive movies,
and those who understand that some inconveniences are what makes the game.

The raids in classic arent even balanced around 40 people stacking world buffs. dying and losing them is the risk you take when you go for that advantage, with no risk it is no longer interesting. Even with saving world buff states you at least had to think about when to activate it and possibly save it for certain bosses. The casuals and shitters have slippery sloped the already easy game into being easier.
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>>502754840
I don't think you understand the problem with that spec
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>>502755046
running around as a meme spec is a red flag that they aren't paying attention in the first place
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BROS!

Never played Classic before, is there a gear treadmill? Will I replace all my gear the moment a new patch/phase comes out like in retail? Or does gear actually last?
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>>502754752
this is the best spec you can run on a pvp server. you can finish with a final point into IMP coe after you get master summoner
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>>502755046
I unironically have had boomies top the meters in ZG raids, I swear on short fights with world buffs they're not a memespec anymore
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>>502755132
disagreeable and presumptive
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>>502755046
not to mention someone to use all the gear that warriors can't use is good.
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>>502755140
pick warriro or rogue and go horde
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>>502755132
paying attention to Icyveins isn't paying attention to the game, juan.
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>>502755140
no some early pieces stay relevant for all of vanilla
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we need Nost 2.0. some oil prince wealthy benefactor to just host servers out of blizzards reach. shit i'd even fucking pay for it if it was like og nost
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>>502755140
yes gear treadmell. gear lasts much longer than retail though. for example some pieces in the first raid are best in slot until the last raid. and some lvl 40 quests have gear you will use until 60.
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>>502754978
>>502755157
>>502754918
Guess I should do some research, still haven't decided if I'm gonna do pvp or pve desu.
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>>502753587
im very glad that sod and aggrend still exist as a lightning rod for these god awful opinions
if we can minimize the damage to just dual spec and debuff cap we've far exceeded my expectations for the amount of bullshit that redditors would add
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>>502754642
Just because its doable does not mean its comfy.
People want to play in comfy groups where you go through dungeons without problems.
You are literally just making it harder for the group.
I also don't even understand why you want to play damage dealer when your damage is shit.
Isn't the point of being a damage dealer to do nice damage?
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>>502755191
>>502755242
still not getting invited
go respec your 2 dual specs into heals
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pve cryboomers be like
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>>502755421
once I have an alt im probably making my priest dual healing spec, one holy raidheal spec and one disc/shadoweaving spec
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>>502755442
>t.
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I wanna play Warlock now.....
>No Dire Maul for 4 months.
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Pally bros, heres proof we can wreck in pvp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAI6ABS3-U
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want to go Rogue but can't decide what race orc or undead? help
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>>502755347
you can skip imp COE and dump the points into suppression or improved drain life, there's not a ton to change.
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>>502755680
undead for pvp troll for pve
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dwarf
male
rogue
hardcore

simple as
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>>502755421
i don't play a class that can heal but i sure as shit am not going to pass up on chill people in my raid just because autists online think they are playing the game wrong
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>>502755673
ummmm where is esfanpvp?
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>>502754642
i ignored you inv request
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I want to do the rank 14 grind and since its going to just be AV spam and rushing the boss, is there even a point in getting raid gear?
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>>502755421
True
The only good use for dual spec is if you wanna swap to a PvP or questing build.
But hybrids are still cucked to healing in PvE
And this won't change that.
They would need to buff those trees to make them more viable for PvE
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>>502755157
>He picks Master Summoner
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>>502755786
still not getting invited
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>>502755421
lol you aren't even making it to 60
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>>502754506
woaw i will get healed when i don't need it, it changes everything
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Ok /wowcg/. What is the ONE class you hate encountering from the opposing faction in the world and fighting them?
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>>502755749
ok
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>>502755846
objectively correct if you're on a pvp server
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>>502755872
>my raid
so you can't read?
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>>502755841
>hybrids are forced into running two pve specs
>castecrucks will have to have a boss and trash spec
>rogues and warchuds get to run a pvp spec all the time with no respec
wtf i love dualspec now?!?
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>>502755934
I don't play on faggy ass pvp servers
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Reminder that everyone is going to play your class and you're a fucking idiot if you think you'll even get a raidspot over these poopsockers playing the same class for over 20 years. They will play 18 hours per day. They will level up, get stronger, make connections all while you sleep or are at work. They are level 60 in the first week. The /elite/ of the server. I bet you don't even have logs from 2019 to prove you're not a shitter.

Just roll restoshaman/holy paladin like a good sissy and keep the actual adults alive okay hun? And don't talk or we will laugh at your squeeky faggoty voice on discord lmao!!!
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wait wait to get STONED and do many mara runs
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>>502756114
druid is massively underrepped
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In a perfect world I would be playing Dwarf Shaman on an official Classic+ server.
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>>502756114
btw i'm trans
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>>502756114
thats unironically not enough warriors
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>>502756114
>800 rogues
90% ud...
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>>502756114
>over 1200 warriors
>nearly 800 rogues
>750 mages
It's really crazy how the game can just be boiled down to these three classes.
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>>502756215
Worst class for raiding and worst class for pvp (except FR)
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>>502755934
I just leveled a warlock in Era and by far had the most trouble with rogues. warriors got wrecked pretty hard (apparently alliance can't into Berserker Rage), and I actually did really well against hunters. but rogues recked my shit.
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>>502754579
i am a completely new player only played war for 7 levels
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>>502756215
No it's not, 1 per raid healcucks
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>>502756114
I can't see too good, is that Bill Parsie over there?
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>>502755934
as Hunter the worst thing to come across was a Warlock
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>>502756367
It's literally 65% of the entire pop.

I feel bad for anyone rolling one, you'll have to gear compete non-stop. Must be tiring.
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>already joined the pvp discord
>already found a guild
>already have multiple people in multiple groups on standby to farm dungeons for xp and gear and play together
>will farm the whole SM set and all the goodies
>will do uldaman
>will do ZF
>all with 4 clothies and myself, the Warrior
>no paladins in the group of course
holy shit im so ready to go full degen on this game
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>>502756384
druids are an S tier class for world PvP
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>>502756579
not with the changes to pvp ranking
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>>502756663
discord tranny lol
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>>502756663
Finna casually level to 6 then have a beer when I hit my first city
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>>502754551
this is like early leveling right? the hunter part
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>>502756114
Eeeeeehhhhhhhh....maybe I won't be playing warrior this time haha...
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>>502756114
I'm going to make it this time
I'm going to be invited to a fun guild
I'm going to get a slot
I'm going to be liked
I'm going to be successful
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is there going to be a /vg/ guild?
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what retarded buffs are parsetrannies gonna pull out now the limit has been removed?
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>>502756367
Well there is also the "healer class".
But all healers classes play the same way so you can combine them all into one "healer class".
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>>502756114
>use someone elses logs
>join ur guild
>get welfare
you cant do a thing about it
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>>502751171
rogue boss damage is fine
your overall damage is dogshit because lolnoaoe
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>>502756829
Don't be so discouraged anon, do you need a healbitch?
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>>502756812
You cannot stop a good hunter in WPvP, if they have distance on you you're effectively chanceless. Even worse if they have Engi. Triple worse if they're a Nelf player with half a brain waiting for your respawn...
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>>502756918
bogling root farming will be mandatory
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>>502756895
Nah
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>>502756663
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>>502751171
yes, people were bad in 2007
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My discord experience during classic:
>everyone muted except the raid lead
>sound level dropped to 20-50%
>all channels except ones concerning the raid are muted
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>>502756829
warrior is fine
its mage and especially rogue that are fucked
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>>502756114
try not to moan when I shove my benediction up your ass faggot
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>>502757116
sister im your officer show me respect
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>>502751171
Final patch means nothing is "like it was." Everything is significantly easier for starters.
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>>502756421
shouldve leveled as sl spec.
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>>502757116
thinking i'm gonna make a guild with a discord that has no text channels people can type in, just voice and info. opinions?
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>>502757076
people are not ready for the for the forbidden root
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>>502757138
80% of those mages dont make it to level 60 lol, mage is the "wow classic is back! login play till 43 and quit" class
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Might say fuck it and roll Priest and be a healbot for the people who actually know what they're doing, baby them into their gear while I get tossed the priest shit nobody else wants
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>>502757076
Actually had to look this up and had a good laugh
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>male troll GAWD
or
>fem orc tranny
what should i roll
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>>502757396
I will invite you to my dungeon runs as Tank.
There you go. You got raid slotted.
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world buff should be a reward from winning av !
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>>502757378
Hell yeah, that's the sovl. No one wants to raid with autists, SNS.
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>>502757264
like vent/teamspeak. very comfy
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>>502757456
Anon people will really do that if it increases their parsies. These same people would use multiple different level agi or str scrolls to get 0.05% bigger parsies in tbc
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>>502757396
Thanks I'm the warrior tank and I need (this spirit cloth piece) for my flask set

Thanks I'm the druid tank and I need (this spirit cloth piece) for my Resto set

Thanks I'm the paladin and I'm ahaha AAAHAHAHJAHAHAHAHAH
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>>502757546
>entire rosters would queue
kinda of a kino idea ngl
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>>502757605
pretty sure those both had text channels just no one used them
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>>502757497
Play the gender you are in real life and stop being a gay cuck
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>picks a class that isn't as popular so I get funneled all the gear because I'm the only one who can equip it in the group
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mage or shaman for classic?
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>I'm going to roam the world
>I'm going to gank
>I'm not joining any discords
>I'm not joining any guilds
>I will level to 60 then quit the game
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>>502757605
kinda the vibe i'm looking for, also to encourage in-game communication

>>502757690
literally nobody used them, two monitors was not common at all
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whats more ergonomic fags? having armrests level with your desk or hovering your arms and having your armrests under your desk?
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>>502757742
PvE or PvP?
In PvE it depends on if you wanna be a healer or a dps.
If you wanna be a healer go shaman
If you wanna dps go mage
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>>502757690
yeah exactly, discord hass token over everything to the point where games have official servers where they post their news n sheit. i wanna go back to forums and all that
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Accepting my fate as a Healslut
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>>502757862
armrests completely level with desk is the "right" ergonomic choice according to office scientists and chair/desk makers, apparently
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>>502757939
PvE, are shamans a fun main in classic? I kind of know what the mage experience is like
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>>502757949
I did long ago but no warriors seem to need a personal one...
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>>502757698
I legitimately do not have enough testosterone to play Male Orc
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>>502757949
Healing is fun (on Priest and Druid).

FUCK healing on shaman and paladin, I don't know how you fucktards do it.
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>>502754752
Yes, my spec is very ok
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>>502754203
Way to out yourself retard
>but SoD is still alive
lol
lmao
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>>502757862
resting your arms on the table
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>>502758015
Shamans are considered one of the worst classes to level but one of the best classes to have as a a main. it's a delayed gratification kind of thing.
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>>502758024
most people aren't faggots and would rather somebody ask "yo do you want a healer" as opposed to "h-hi i can healslut for you"
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anyone here plan to think of a funny guild name and then running a mass invite (ToS compliant) mod and making a dumb worthless megaguild for fun when fresh launches?
any suggestions for cool guild names? last classic my buddies and I did <first of all how dare you>
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>>502758015
The questing/leveling as a shaman is awful if you are solo.
But group content is very fun as a shaman.
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>>502755052
It's fucking atrocious
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Will I be able to transfer my character to another vanilla realm when Burning Crusade starts?
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>>502757862
Folded hand towels under your forearms
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>>502758174
i wanna join a guild with a qt name but in reality everyone is a 30 year old racist
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>>502755383
>Glass half full
Thank you anon, that helps.
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>>502758039
For you, it's troll
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>>502758158
That's okay.. I'll find one before it's time. I'm actually good at the game so I'll find one in-game if I have to
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>>502758024
play na pvp with me
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>>502758104
coloquially, english speakers nearly always use "cost" in that context, despite it being grammatically incorrect. "it cost that much" is what you'll hear, not "it costed that much"
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Go back to the other threads ERP retards
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>>502755827
>is there even a point in getting raid gear?
No, just get your rank 14 and squish nubs
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>>502758387
Nyo.
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YO wtf do I even do while I wait, I even have my birthday between now and fresh and I just want to roll my character
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>>502758396
PVP rank gear is like BWL tier for most classes, worse for some, and super poorly itemized for PVE/pumping raw DPS
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>>502758490
Isn't it in like two days or some shit
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>buying 32 inch oled 4k monitor
>1200 dollars
>arrives tommorrow
yeah, its classic wow time
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>>502756421
If you don't have a death coil up, yes it can be a pretty tough fight. Never waste that mobs. Just save it for the incoming gank that always happens. If you can get that off, then just simply put a curse of agony or a corruption on him so he can't resells, then get a fear off. Make sure to cast fear a second time immediately after casting the first one (assuming you are in a phase where he would have a PVP trinket). From that point on it's pretty easy.
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why is all wow porn draenei futa and worgen cock
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>>502758726
cause otherwise it's just normal sex but with shitty models?
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>>502758726
Anyone with discerning tastes left WoW long ago
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>>502758331
I'm gonna be your tank.
>Inb4 ur war
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>>502758563
i came back and started playing era before the fresh announcement, my levelling got blueballed at like 50 and i have the itch. it's painful man.
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based: orc on draenei
woke: draenei futa
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>*shadowmelds on ur corpse*
Heh...
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>>502758971
sounds like you got the worst possible deal on this announcement timing wise, thats sucks man
id say just get blackout drunk for the next 2 nights if you really are that distracted by this
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>>502759083
i'm tanking you too
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>>502759096
yo not a bad idea
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>>502758959
yes since I was responding to a healslut wanting a warrior..but I'm also tempted to play mage
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The Greek man marches on against the Sino-Spanish alliance, you know where
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>>502759314
i play prot pala but i can def heal u too
we can take turns
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>>502759314
the healslut+warrior dynamic is sacred and wonderful and to be encouraged, but only if you don't talk about it all gayly like that
the idea of partnering up with someone that was on 4chan looking for a "healslut" is absurdly degenerate behavior. might be fine but a real chance of connecting you with a fucking weirdo. just find a friend ingame of join a guild
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>>502759342
dollar store esfat
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what class should I play if I want to pvp as alliance, especially in AV but not be fucked over by the absurd 25% stun resist and fear immunity?
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>>502759342
absolutely based ballsack chinman
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>>502759314
>female warrior
gross...
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>>502759314
It's not that bad to support a rogue or a mage either esp on pvp. My top 3 really
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>friends rolling alliance
Fuck man. I hate the gnomes. I hate the faggot human female larpers. I can only appreciate nelf males for their inadvertent humoristic value. Once again, I must find solace in the dwarves...
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>>502759507
hes basically the new esfat because esfand lost weight
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>>502759541
There's no PvP in AV
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How many Dungeons can Shaman solo?
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>>502759541
Mage probably
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>>502758121
I imagine you are wanted no matter the spec? I want to dps I think but I imagine nobody wants an enhance cuck
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>>502759541
mage or hunter or maybe warlock, but as others noted AV is more a PVE base race so in that case a tanking class or useful healer (priest or paladin)
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>>502759607
>I can only appreciate nelf males
ur gayer than them
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>>502759485
only one thinking about gays or cocks here is you
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>>502758314
What faction
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>client
Downloaded.
>PTR
Tested.
>Add-ons
Set up.
>Spy with racial alert feature turned on for any Gnomes in the area
Installed.
>Character looks
Decided on.
>Total Roleplay 3 profile
Written.
>Class and Spec
Locked in.
>Atiesh
Reserved.
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>>502759607
Holy fuckin' based horde main Nelf enjoyer.
I'm a horde main DwardChad myself
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>>502757720
I thought I was slick doing this in SoD, rolling a holy paladin. I hardly get shit for gear. I have like 2 pieces of Judgement and maybe 5 pieces of misc BWL gear and the rest is still MC gear and fucking blue dungeon trinkets.
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>>502759912
i wish i was this organized sis. im stressing out so much :(
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Since some anon here redpilled me that Orcs are Japanese I don't see them as niggers anymore.
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>>502759607
extremely based nelf enjoyer
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>>502759912
>not caving to peer FOMO the night before
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>>502759912
>No teamviewer so you can log in remotely 3 hours before you get home from work to avoid the queue
Ngmi
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>>502759757
>alliance warlock
why would you do this when half your enemies will be immune to fear?
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>>502760041
Anon I don't know how to explain this to you but orcs are white colonizers. Humans/alliance are african
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If I only care about playing vanilla, should I risk playing on the fresh realms? Do you think they'll offer character copies? Or should I just stick with Era? Will Era realms still be populated in a few days?
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>>502759751
nah nobody wants an Enh cuck. Resto and ele get WAY MORE raid spots in both Vanilla and TBC. Don't even bother rolling that shit, retard noob because that's what I'm maining you fuckin' niggero
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>>502760158
facts
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>>502760041
you got it wrong bro, orcs are germanic
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>>502760123
they asked what was good in AV. you are just gonna be lobbing shadow bolts or rain of fire from max range
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>Trans
>Passing
>HIV positive & suppressed to undetected levels
>wealthy
>Female night elf druid
Stay salty, /wowcg/
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What is Alliance even like
I've only ever played Horde, I have no idea what Stormwind even looks like.
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>>502760236
>Female night elf druid
fucking yikes
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>>502760016
Imagine yourself in the world of Warcraft. What would be your ideal starter zone to live in? Which of the starter zones would you wanna defend with your entire being? How would you do it?

That's your race/class combo.
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dreaming of big tank cock stretching my healer holes open when fresh drops...
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>>502760041
They are as Japanese as Niggers cosplaying anime.
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>>502760197
uh no
germans weren't living in mudhuts when other parts of the world had castles and crossbows
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>>502760254
have you ever been put in as a proctor for Special Education classes before?
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>>502760236
need a duo sis?
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>>502759875
Oh nyo not you
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>>502760479
okay never mind then I'll just play alone
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After Hearthstone released I bought Legion and themeparked my way through old content basedpointing

Soloing Kelthuuzaad very easily was kinda sad I do wonder what Naxx is like as an actual raid
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>>502759757
>useful healer
and druid!
and shaman!
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>>502760324
>forgot about the ancient german tribes
uh-huh
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>>502760587
Eery music and fun atmosphere, piss easy fights ('nilla cryboomers still manage to wipe with full worldbuffs).

BWL is the peak of Classic, it only gets worse after that.
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so since dual spec is in, you can run around on your warlock with SL on constantly, and that's the strongest pvp build in the game for open world.

is ally warlock as bad as it seems? I feel like you could bait the WotF with an initial fear then death coil them when it expires and fear them again
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orcs are turks when they were still steppenigs
they btfo the draenei (byzantine coded) and stole their land
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>>502760743
I am also interested in karazhan is that TBC
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>>502760687
tbf by that logic the alliance are just horde but 600 years later.
which, honestly? in today's climate that's a compliment. Western culture has been fucked beyond repair for like 200 years now
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ally or horde
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>>502760839
>>502760807
true brothers true
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>>502760563
I doubt you'll have to friend
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>>502760687
romans didn't have medieval tech like crossbows and castles
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>>502760743
Patchwerk
Four Horseman
KT are only hard bosses
Everything else is just meme gimmick shit. Specially the dog and balette one
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The only reason you'd think Orcs are tangentially Japanese is because of Blademasters from WC3. Whatever happened to Samuro in the lore anyways? Is he still alive in Vanilla/TBC?
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>>502760041
>he wasnt wc3pilled to enjoy the mongol/japanese themes
https://youtu.be/kBd671LvlZk?si=-sQSQrSlTSnb7nXV
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>>502760936
We see blademasters in Vanilla and TBC but not Samuro, but we see this rape baby in nagrand
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>>502759998
I'm not a soddie knower, but how did you not get pieces?
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>>502760817
It's the first raid of TBC. Generally well liked, also pretty easy. Basically a warm-up raid for what's to come.
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>>502761038
Lantressor is pretty cool to be fair.
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>>502760778
Seduction is on a 5 second cooldown. Any alliance warlock with half a brain doesn't give a shit about WotF. It's alliance priests who are fucked.
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why did we never get hc pvp
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i only play this game to inconvenience others. ganking, camping, dispelling buffs, etc
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imagine screaming for tank in trade channel for 2 hours straight when you could have just called me
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>>502760845
Horde.
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>>502761284
imagine losing your character because you cant pvp
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>>502761301
This. I genuinely see no other appeal in this game.
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>>502761320
why are elves so gay in wow compared to WC3?
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>>502761320
Horde is so fucking kino in the most literal way
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>>502761410
promise me that some of you sissies will play horde on the HC server and not leave me alone to languish. I don't want to have to roll alliance.
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>>502761410
In the sense of living in mudhuts and wearing no shoes?
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Programmer socks equipped
Chastity cage locked
Twitch subscriptions armed

Yep, its HC Fresh time. Onlyfangs HYPE!
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>>502760173
ele gets spots? w-why would they
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blizzard will never release a true vanilla server with progressive itemization, no layer, and authentic pserver world chat because it would kill every version of the game
theere cowards
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>>502761554
Yeah but you guys have to deal with Paladins until TBC
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>>502761554
if your lore obsessively revolves around what the local cobbler is doing, it's boring as fuck
>>502761512
HC is pretty kino I will definitely be playing at least one char there on the new fresh
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Is 26 too high level for SFK.
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>>502761370
Some people say this, but when I ran into Male Belf players while being a pserf on Warmane and on TBC/Wrath Classic they were always bros or chads.
I thought like you for like 10 years prior though so I feel you.
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>>502761710
It was real in his mind, it came to him in a dream
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>>502761720
Modern WoW players cannot handle a mostly unmoderated world chat. Their minds would melt the moment you called someone a retard.
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yeah im thinking 2 bottlss of 3 dollars red wine and a orc shaman
yeahhhhh boi
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>>502761831
whats the language limit of blizzcuck servers? i know i cant say nigger but can i call things retarded/gay?
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>>502761710
>>502761803
ele gets spots because they can drop WF lmao. and 4 of the healers are already priests
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>>502761898
Not on NA
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>>502761898
no
this is another reason a lot of the comms moved to d*scord because you can call each other gamer words without some kike in reporting you
any pvp discord is an absolute hellhole just like this thread
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Tauren Hunter
finna cringe or finna based?
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>>502762241
extremely based, especially if you use guns
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i wonder if alliance resto druids outperform horde one in pve cause chain heal isnt sniping everyone.
or if hots will be usable finally
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i WILL NOT be playing fresh just to raidlog molten chore from the dozenth time
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>>502762458
>Not stomping noobs in pvp
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>>502762458
heckin' valid choice sis :)
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What faction has more literal trannies?
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>>502759342
>>502759507
>>502759561

Chinks are dunking on him calling him fat LOL.
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>>502762426
Alliance druids always win over Horde ones since we have paladin blessings.

Melee benefit more from shamans, hybrids and spellcasters benefit more from paladins.
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>>502762426
Doesn't matter priests can just massa renew now without overwriting and be even stronger and nobody will care about druids. Bring one for motw and ff and that's it
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>>502762458
>xir's playing fresh to rush to end-game
ngmi
going to level nice a slow
going to crack jokes in /1
going to hit 60 and quit when sub runs out
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>>502762568
i guess its payback after he called them bateaters and cheech and chongs live on twitch lmao
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>>502762652
you could do that at any point in era or hardcore, or on a private server for free
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>>502762458
if that's your attitude then it's 100% correct choice on your part. Just saying there are better games to metagame and take seriously than vanilla wow in 2024.
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>>502762042
>>502762075
that is so heckin retarded!
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>>502762568
>>502759342
>>502759507
>>502759561
>>502762689


forgot picrel
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>>502762740
>xir thinks era has active /1
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look on the bright side
by the time fresh fresh is over chinktle will be dead and we can go back to vased pserv fresh
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>>502762621
This is a pretty black and white way of viewing things. Druids bring innervates, and battle-rezzes, priests don't have that.

Also regrowth and Rejuv together completely shits on renew's coefficiency, nevermind it's more mana-efficient if the druid is using the right downranks.
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>>502762740
>dead and requires a wow sub still
or
>99% 3rd worlders
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>>502762850
where fat man?
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>>502762850
WHERE IS THE FK FAT GUY
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>>502762850
Wait it's this fucking guy? https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/18hp1sg/is_gold_buying_turning_sod_into_p2w_another_case/
Lmao, he was literally buying gold last year during SoD, what's his issue with botters/boosters now?
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>>502763137
they mass reported one of his accounts and got it banned so he declared war on the chinese/spanish boosting botters
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>>502762987
Nobody cares bro, you could say the same about enha shaman vs warrior and guess which one people will stack? Druids do fuckall healing, you only need 1 and you definitely aren't bringing more than 2 unless you just need numbers. Innervates are useless when bosses die in 20 seconds, brez is used on cryboomer warrs like salvdali who don't understand what aggro is. Accept it or not, there's a reason almost nobody plays a druid in vanilla
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>>502763137
you see how these twitch niggers operate? (rules for thee but not for me)
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>PVE realm?
>oh, you mean easy mode
>nah dude I play games on normal difficulty
>have fun though!
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>>502763342
BASED
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>>502763137
He's dunking on changs and pedros
he's based in my book for that
while touting America NUmbah 1!!
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finnna level a rogue to 35 and camp noshoes in stonetalon for multiple hours at a time
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>>502763342
What a pussy, I play on hard bro.
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>>502763137
>>502763238
>>502763257
>>502763101
>>502763027

hes like all other streamers, hes grifting. this fatso was selling boosts, he was joining gdkp and buying gold.
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>>502763527
are you the guy arguing with him in the chat? lol
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>>502763397
I wanna do this on my druid, might be fun with a rogue friend..
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what's the credited male night elf haircut/facial hair combo (for a priest FYI)
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>>502763342
>PVP realm?
>oh, you mean normal mode
>nah dude I play games on hard(core) difficulty
>have fun though!
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>just over 23k forum gold on .jsp stockpiled
yeah im thinking FRESH is gonna be a fun time indeed
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which is more ezmode in pvp, mage or lock?
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>>502763730
why the fuck would you make a nightelf priest
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>>502763862
*starsharts in ur face*
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>>502763397
finna level an undead rogue to bout 40 or so and camp that cave escort quest in redridge, right before they get close to the end I's finna clap them cheeks, sending the escort guy back to the start and goin again.
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>>502763730
>male nelf priest
just pick the most retarded looking option possible
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so back in classic druid was the peak choice
amazing leveling experience as feral because of cat speed and I could tank my own dungeons
moonglade teleport is super clutch
stealth is a huge QOL life feature
phase 1 molten core is a joke so I could heal in my pvp/feral dungeon 0/30/21 spec. by the time BWL dropped I had enough gold so I'd just respec every week
I played the fuck out of my druid in both pve and wpvp and enjoyed every second of it - maybe not so much the AV grind as alliance but there were some memorable matches

but been there, done that. sell me on another class and why I should choose that one to main
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>>502763949
based
let's jointly agree to make fresh completely unplayable for reddit dadgamers
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>>502763949
redridge might turn to an alliance zone if reddit continue
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>>502763607
Yeah, dude is grifting. He's such a degenerate. He's taken full advantage of the chinks selling gold and boosts in any way possible
>bought gold
>did gdkps
>sold boosts
now hes grifting for views and subs as a victim of the chinks.
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>>502764152
It should, or we could turn barrens into a pvp zone to make it fair
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>>502764180
he did say in one stream that his stream basically blew up because of his crusade against the chinese, so you may be onto something here
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>>502764284
just watch him forget about this completely when fresh launches this week. and he buys gold on fresh too.
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why yes. I will be rolling a troll warrior on HC fresh. thanks for asking
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>>502763862
why not? i can shadowmeld and mind control, have better dodge, and a defense cooldown. So answer the fucking question.
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>>502764429
>am undead
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>>502764408
if he does, this'll be the greatest unsurprise in the history of Classic WoW
>he just said he was streaming fresh next week
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WPvP is part of the Classic experience.
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>>502764429
ok but why are you playing a male night elf
you arent allowed tondo that if you have an iq above 80
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>>502764429
fear ward is really good. really really good
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>>502764618
erm ackshewally im a grown adult now and i dont have time to be griefed under the guise of 'wpvp'. i will be playing on the pve realm to avoid that childish nonsense
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>>502764754
>Tondo
>IQ above 80
Oddly specific but I think I understand what's wrong with you anon.
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>With 1.15.5, PvP realms will attempt to balance faction at both the layer and the specific zone level. What this means is that if one faction exceeds our balance threshold, any additional players attempting to enter that same zone will instead transfer to another layer.

NEW PATCH WILL BALANCE LAYERS ON PVP SERVERS, THEY LISTENED TO US
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im taking the hunter pill this time
>easy leveling
>good in wpvp
>free gear
>lazy raiding (pull some trash and press tranq lol)
>SOUL class quest
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>>502764610
yep hes gonna buy gold for fresh you know it.
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>>502764934
thank god im rolling pve and wont have to deal with minigamers
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>>502763987
Furyprot so you can dual wield tank, have a fuckload of threat and decent damage in raid, and only shieldswap macro as an oh shit button
or
Shaman to enable people and get away with hybrid specs like you did with Druid
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>>502764821
the funniest thing is that redditors actually believe this as if they were actually functional adults and not stunted manchildren they'd be playing vanilla wow at all
i respect the schizo redridge rogues more because at least they're true to themselves
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>>502758356
i have never in my life heard anyone say costed. Its a business term for people who went to business school use, in other words, it is jargon one uses to demonstrate that you got a degree in a specific field, and not real english.
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>>502764934
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>>502764927
im extremely drunk on a monday
as a true nilla gamer does
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>>502765243
Fair fair. But you know you can't insult another person's IQ if you make a typo in your post, those are the rules anon.
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>>502764821
Too right brother, I'll see you in the line for garrick padfoot!
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>>502764985
>man this new bow is sick
>heh watch me no-scope this orange mob
>wait it lived?
>WAIT NO STAY AWAYYYYY NOOOOOOOO MY BUTTHOLE AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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since we can get welfare pvp epics, is boomkin viable in BGs?
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>>502765490
without form its good for 1v1 by taking NS
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>>502764985
hope you are on pve cause hunter vs hunter is some of the most autistic shit imaginable.
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>>502765532
not interested in 1v1s, just nuking people in BGs
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which priest race should i play if i dont want to play on pvp server and just want to raid casually/ horde or alliance idc
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>>502765919
tauren or gnome.
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>>502765874
same thing applies
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>>502756114
i guarantee that shit changes because of the removal of the debuff limit and implementation of dual spec. priests will surge, the benediction/anathema is too lucrative for dual speccers. warlocks too, you can now have your soul link spec for open world.
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>>502766005
u tarded bro?
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>>502766072
He's not the one rolling a huntard
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>>502756114
>Druid that low
Why?
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>>502766072
>say its good for 1v1s
>"no i mean i wanna nuke people in bgs"
>yes its good for that too
>"duh ur retarded"
kill yourself anon i hope you get raped in every bg
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>>502764934
woaw 1 balanced layer for 10 layers of hordies
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Why is this fat motherfucker trying to stop boosters? Didn't this fat nigger get caught buying gold? I swear everyone who cries about "people ruining the game" ala boosters, gold buyers, botters etc get caught buying gold.
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>>502765919
worgen
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>>502766165
Because it's literal dogshit and you can only heal, and only 1 gets taken to raids ideally.
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>>502766265
content
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>>502765919
Troll priest
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>>502765919
cute femhumie
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>convince soddies to accept "qol" changes like dual spec (free 100g a week to play arms) and debuff cap (massive buff from deep wounds)
>get AGGREND of all people, king retard himself, to disavow class changes
warbvlls won bigly
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Just wait redridge idiots
I'm going to become known as the terror of stonetalon mountains on my fat ugly bastard dwarf male hunter over and over and over
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>warrior tank
>already have a pally healer
>want more of em
bros....
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>>502766265
because he was barely a 100 viewer stream before he started his hypocritical crusade
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>>502766265
like all streamers, its a grift to get money.
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>>502764934
Implementing faction locks if the server pop gets imbalanced is ACTUALLY going to save PvP realms for fresh.
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>>502766389
If I'm the favorite then it's ok
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With the debuff limit gone and dual spec being added to retail fresh I've been thinking more and more about dropping mage and playing priest
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>>502765490
>boomkin viable in X,Y,Z?
no not really. you dont go boomkin for pvp you want to switch between forms a lot. Something like feral charge from feral, some points in resto too, then the rest in balance, cant remember exactly how many points without looking at the tree.
I mean if you want to meme around as a moonkin for the extra crit and just nuke people from behind the lines then sure go boomkin but a druids strength is their utility.


Man it sucks how classic+ is basically just retail instead of expanding upon clasic ideas that didnt get expanded upon, like boomkin being a melee/caster hybrid instead of just chicken mages. Paladins being auto attack buffbots instead of warriors with holy damage mortal strike.

They could have given paladins more short term buffs, something like
>invigorate the paladin and an ally with holy zeal for 6 seconds increasing attack and movement speed by 20%, the paladin gets 50% increased effect if cast on an ally. no cooldown
>increase the effect of auras by 300% for 12 seconds - 2 minute cooldown

or something idk.
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>>502766413
>100 alliance playing vs 100 horde with 40k more in que
I mean sure it's balanced but..
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>>502766476
sure sis just remember the mage still gets the caster dps gear
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>>502766568
horde wont even get past character creation for weeks
its actually going to be interesting as the guilds confirmed rolling ally are overall WAY sweatier than horde. if you look at the spreadsheet circulating around the ally lineup is an absolute murderer's row while horde is cryboom central
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is playing rogue on alliance suicidefuel when 30-40% of the enemy resists all your stuns?
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>>502766907
just ambush instead
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>>502765624
>autism
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Why are bank alts so comfy to look at?
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>>502766907
you just sap orcs and open with cheap at angle or a /stopattack cheap shot macro, if it resists you don't break your sap and go again.

The only issue with this is you can literally get cheap resist, re-stealth sap, cheap resist, sap, cheap resist and give up.
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>>502766997
don't listen to him you literally just fear beast the pet and blast
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>>502767259
>*resists ur kidney*
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>>502766476
priest becomes pretty cool when you can be shadow whenever you're not raiding. you can actually go have fun in bgs and wpvp.
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>>502767259
It'll be so funny when horde can't even play this pvp server unless they play alliance and they have to deal with the BS racials for a change
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>>502767368
I have literally had an orc resist 3 cheap shots in a sap, I lose my shit and just spam hemo, trading blows, get 5 points, have kidney get resisted, vanish cheap and get resisted and I just alt f4 in rage. Five stuns resisted in one fight.
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>>502767556
this anon is right >>502766947 just dps them down and don't bother with stun against orcs.
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>>502766515
Classic+ should keep the classes as they are, just add more content
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>>502767480
dude its going to be so epic!
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>>502767480
What are you talking about? Why would horde be unable to play this pvp server and have to roll alliance?
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The Greek Warrior celebrates in his victory over the chinks and spics
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>>502767721
They're introducing faction locks on pvp realms so it isn't a 90/10 split and effectively a PvE realm.
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>>502767721
sod faction lock
if you are on immediately you wont be able to make a horde char for weeks until the ally poopsock chads start running horde off the server
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>>502767721
Enforced server balance, you're not even gonna get in as horde
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>>502767782
did u see him run over and right click that 2k hp mage?
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>>502767854
yeah i did lmao holy fuck
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>>502767837
>until the ally poopsock chads start running horde off the server
u mean those guys who level in dungeons and are never in the open world? those ally chads who live permanently inside instances?
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>horde turdies aren't gonna be able to swarm alliance anymore
kek this is great, get fucked
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>>502767943
so poggers man
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>>502768091
is this an NA thing?

EU alliance on era outnumber horde 2:1
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>>502768081
>he is unaware
don't say you weren't warned
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>>502768256
NA has been horde-biased forever
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>>502768256
>Era
C'mon now
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where's the /vg/ guild going bwos?
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What happens if all the Horde players just never log on or quit with the faction lock?
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Finally free from the decision Jew
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>>502767816
>>502767837
>>502767841
There are way more alliance players than horde. The issue is, horde are actually active in the world/pvp. Alliance sit on their mounts in SW. They also have way more jajas that don't even raid.

pic rel: just took from SoD minutes ago even though the numbers are way down. Horde has never really had faction lock this entire time on SoD since day 1. Alliance has always had it at times. According to raid logs, ally are 49% horde 51%. So many jajas and runts uncounted for in raid logs on alliance because they simply do not raid. The one version of wow with faction balance locks so far has always been locking Alliance on megasevers, not horde. I don't expect fresh to be majority horde.
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>>502768542
Who cares about easy choreographed fights for smooth brains. PvP is the endgame of classic.
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>>502768605
alliance has been the packed indian train faction for a while now
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I'm gonna facetank mobs while I DoT and drain them, then I'm gonna kill some Horde idiots whenever I see them. Unfortunately, my character is weak to femOrc futacock. Can never beat it.
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>>502768723
people who live in filth want their game to be pretty and clean

people who live in healthy environments don't mind their fantasy land being more primitive. it's an escapism thing
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Retailers in the threda, worst part about frewsh
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you know when people say factions are an outdated concept, then I see this level of autism over a 20 year old game it makes me wonder
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>>502768647
So the endgame is getting fear-kited by a lock?
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>>502768542
competing with 30 other people for loot sucks ass
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>>502768948
>So the endgame is getting fear-kited by a lock?
If you suck, sure.
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>>502767841
classic skews alliance. better pve racials(sword/mace skill, 5% int on gnome is more crit for parselords, fear ward), good enough pvp racials(escape artist, stoneform, shadow meld for hunter), and holy paladins are unkillable pvp gods when geared.
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>>502768885
So true, just like insecure sois playing male beastmen, while the high test and virile play fembelf
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>want to play Shaman because they look like a lot of fun
>always been an Alliance player and really don't want to be Horde
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>>502769027
there's a highly televised 100,000 dollar tournament that would disagree with you.
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>redditors bitch and moan
>Blizzard cave in immediately

why can't they just make a pure vanilla server? this shit is on par with funservers at this point
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>>502768443
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dungeon experience in hardcore? I know I want to do wailing caverns as a shaman but I don't trust tanks or hunters in there
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>>502768948
>berserker rage
>death wish
>execute crit
>/spit
what now?
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>>502769204
>highly televised
o my dead lord
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>>502769204
bring consumables and engioneering, noob
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I don't like to gank people and think it's generally just in poor sport
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>>502769164
nah, your character is an extension of yourself and a way to experience the world. i want my character to be at least mildly relatable and the environment to be something i'm not overexposed to. hence, i play horde.
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>>502769020
so the endgame is to play druid, buff-bot mark of the wild, faerie fire, drown in raid loot and then go jerk off in org/sw/run flag in wsg?
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>>502769453
this is why i play human male warrior
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>>502769453
Flip flop I was slurpin' some slop, all about an Elunian night
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>>502769197
id like to play sham but 100% i would wipe a raid by forgetting totems at some point
ill just stay in my lane
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Only a few days left till the world can collectively laugh at hordecels who can't even login to the game for more than 1 play session a month
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>>502768482
why is he jewish???
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>>502769703
HCbros...
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>>502750445
Shucks, that's exactly what I've always wanted in life -- to be missed by absolute strangers on the internet. My day is ruined.
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>have the full compliment of SoD Alliance classes at or near 60 (exploit early, exploit often)
>played 3 Horde 60s in the original run of Classic

Christ...should I just replay Horde again? I was kind of thinking Druid or Lock for free loot and spots but Alliance really favor both of those class rarity and functionality wise since blessings work and totems don't.

But man Tauren girls are cute.
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>>502770120
>I was kind of thinking Druid
I just realized the hybrid schizos responsible for SoD are in charge of fresh. No wonder they want dual spec.
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>>502751319
Reddit will simply demand it be less if they make it cost 1,000 gold.
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>>502770273
It's minigamers actually
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Mage or warlock for pve and some pvp?
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>>502770415
They don't play vanilla
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I play Alliance because it has some of the best starting and early leveling zones in the game.
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>>502770461
mage if you also want to make gold
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>>502770273
druid is the sovl of night elf
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>>502770503
Yeah they do, they are always crying raids aren't taking them in their minigame specs.
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>>502770542
is it that easy to make gold

w-will i get raid spots
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>>502770542
what do mages even do for gold since there's no dire maul lashers at launch
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>>502769609
nope lol
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>>502770608
lol, no they don't
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>>502770273
Honestly druid is the one class that really doesn't benefit from dual spec in Classic.

None of the raid gear you'll get benefits Feral so your other option is Doomkin for the bits and bobs of gear that aren't strictly +healing. Sure eventually they could use your ass to be a huge fucking Bear but that shit is literally over 6 months away and they might prefer you to stay healing.
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>>502770614
you can aoe grind people for quick and easy cash. raid spots, yeah but gear might be a bit of an issue. warlocks are cockblocked by the same trinkets and weapons though.

>>502770615
sell sm and zf runs to alts
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>>502770651
Go get your soggy banana leaf, Grunkles
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>>502770769
how do we know they don't put the anti-aoe/anti-boost nigger shit in fresh?
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undead bobs very sovl
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>>502770836
go back to goldshire faggot
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>>502770886
Better dual-box a mage and paladin
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Bros I can't decide between some shit like Orc Hunter, Tauren Warrior, or Human Paladin. What do I pick?
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>>502770708
Keep living in a pretend world then, it's why these changes got made. PvE realm people wouldn't give a fuck
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>>502770886
it's impossible to know for sure but you can always sell food/water and ports for cash anyway.
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>>502771037
Shut the fuck up fat retailer hybrid
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>>502770987
Night Elf Warrior.
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ima roll a druid named Halligan
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>>502770987
orc hunter if bodytype 2
taren warrior if bodytype 1
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>>502770987
Night Elf Hunter
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>>502771257
Based
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i am back to being unsure what i want to roll
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>>502771615
just wait for the big day
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>>502770987
Alliance:
>enter stormwind
>inspiring music
>glorious architecture
>civilized people
>you’re home!
Horde:
>enter orgrimmar
>unga bunga drums
>mud huts
>a passing troll farts on you
>you’re home…
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>>502756114
Where is this
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>>502752873
shamans don't have this issue, i wonder why.
ally cucks???
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>>502771721
>half the population are under 6ft
>civilized
alliance is plagued with defective and weak genetics
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>>502771721
Horde players will feel right at home, they can almost smell their Mexican neighbor
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>>502771615
Same, it sucks.
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>Orc Shaman
>PvE
>Lore Appropriate Name
Comfy
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Is alliance warlock still a guaranteed raidspot for useless niggers like me?
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>>502771721
Horde:
>Go to barrens
>Type the nigger word in chat
>everyone laughs claps and stomp their feet
>home..
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>>502771925
nothing is guaranteed for niggers like you
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>>502771920
>kek'thar the wheelchairite
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>>502772009
"mmm rape is good"
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>>502772009
And then everyone clapped
And then you woke up
And then you try to login to find out you are banned
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>>502772040
haha no anon
i'm simply not going to roll on a pvp server so you have more people to grief on your rogue
i'm simply not going to do it haha
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>>502772212
And then you say it was worth the weight
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>said I'd play DPS this time around since I literally have every healer in Era except Priest
>stricken with desire to play Druid now because I never really gave it a full shot at 60 since it was just an alt

Fuck's sake.
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normal server chads, where we at?
and no, your gaslighting won't work minigame niggers.
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i want to play priest now that dual spec is a thing
how bricked am I if I dont pick the fat midget race
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>>502768542
play whatever you want man
for instance im going human male paladin. i will live in brm and reckbomb nigger zombies all day. i will solo farm gold in strath and i will shit up alterac valley in my tunnel vision ret spec (thanks dual spec hehe). i will hoard so much gold. then when tbc drops ill gatekeep heroic dungeons as prot and systematically decline every warrior who attempts to join. once i'm bis in both ret and prot, i will then beat everyone on the meters with sick seal twists!
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>>502772832
Everyone gon be bricked when your femnelf pull up
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there's literally nothing wrong with warrior, rogue and mage (the most archtypical fantasy classes that can ever exist) being the most fleshed out and interesting at the specific playstyle they embody intead of being exactly as good at their one thing as a hybrid/pet class that has a ton of extra perks they don't
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I NEED IT NOW
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>>502772832
you can't go wrong with male dwarf chad. just make sure to pick full white glorious beard.
if you really want to change your looks just find the imorph discord or use deviate delight.
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>>502773168
yeah
doesn't stop hybridcucks from pissing and moaning about it though
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>>502762458
Phase 1 and 2 PvP is kino. after that, the real chads pack up and leave.
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whats the most fun profession for warrior while leveling? I assume blacksmithing is a total meme until 300 so I was thinking either alc or engineering for consumables to make leveling go smoother
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ahem, belves fags
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should I just blitz a 60 huntard and make tons of gold for when blizzard will definitely add the wow token to classic and literally get 10+ years of wow sub for free?
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>>502773313
i wish that was me fr
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My issue is I don't give a shit about any of the Vanilla races, I just wanna play a Belf Paladin for TBC.

Why won't Blizz be based and let us play Elves and Goats from the start
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How strong is shaman in pvp besides being a healer? I know it was nowhere near as broken as they made it on SoD but can you still blow up people with CL?
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How trannyfied is classic wow compared to retail?

t. tired retail player
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>kinda wanna play alliance
>remember that its the tranny faction with a bunch of faggots and men pretending to be women

Has never not been the case and you see it all the time in these threads.
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>>502773470
make a post on reddit and maybe you'll get it
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>>502766386
speedrun a hunter to 35-40 then go to town.
the salt will flow
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>>502773470
We know, Heather
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>>502773530
Keep telling yourself that when horde is the tranny faction instantly come tbc
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>>502773516
alliance pve could be one of the most pozzed groups in all of gaming
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>>502773516
Every retailer hops onto Classic for a launch since they're all already subbed anyway. Helps that Classic devs pander to their childish whims
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>>502773610
trannies dont play horde because they can't self insert into their sexy character. Why would an irl orc play an orc in game when they can be a cute elf?
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>>502770987
sauce me the pic fampai
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>>502766386
Based Redridgefarm, never forget
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>>502773839
look at the right arm
it's ai
you don't want the sauce
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>>502773839
AI generated big dog
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>>502773756
It more accurately depicts their obese enbie fursona thoughever
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>>502773639
>>502773695
So Classic is as trannyfied as Retail then? ffs
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>>502773915
>>502773938
damn, i thought id find a new god tier futa artist.
disappointed.
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>>502773714
how was this shit allowed in the game
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o_o
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>>502774068
that's a boy
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>>502774149
femboy, whatever, it all makes me dick hard.
does it matter?
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>>502774087
my god...
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>>502774084
wow has many mysteries my son. they seem to all magically favor the horde. the world may may never know.
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>>502774087
Damn I need a girlfriend with linebacker shoulders
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can't wait to be split from you alliance niggas once the servers open. the amount of complaining in here is nauseating
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>>502774268
Still can't believe they gave them the nerfed entrance tunnel. One of the most egregious changes of all time.
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>>502774087
do you think his girlfriend ever roughs him up, throws him on the bed and forces her dick into him when he's really not in the mood?
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Classic bros?
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>>502774624
nice
warrior dps, we just can't stop winning
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>>502774396
I'd imagine decorum to be tedious for an orangutan
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>>502774624
already discussed
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Just release it on server reset why the fuck do we have to wait?
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>>502774687
Not him but nobody discussed it with me. Delete this post.
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>>502774714
new shit is always thursday
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>>502774624
No longer classic, that's correct. This is a SoD reboot, AKA retail--
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Why are orcs so cool?
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>>502774812
This is incorrect, ignore this post. This user is trans. (I can tell via HTML injection, I can view his tabs)
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>>502774714
they're working on the dual spec implementation
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>You now remember the #nochanges people who wanted patch progression from 1.1
>They were so stupid they thought we could afford to bugfix every version of the game
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>>502774864
I'm on that cracked eggs subreddit merely to belittle them. Everyone knows (>>502768885) this is the chad move
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>>502774976
>expecting real development from microblizz
kekkin
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>>502770734
>Honestly druid is the one class that really doesn't benefit from dual spec in Classic
hard disagree as someone who mained druid back in classic and swapped specs every week to heal in raids and then farm/pvp/fuck around in my feral/hybrid spec.
druid pvp is all about pumping resistances. pre-naxx I used 3 piece T2, helm/belt/legs for the set bonus and shadow/fire resists, plus I had +FR enchants on both helm and legs and I also had 2x helm/legs for pve with the ZG enchants on them. druids eat mages and there's nothing more satisfying than seeing a big fireblast crit against you that only hits for like 400 damage. 3 piece AQ shoulder/chest/feet for that set bonus. the shadow resist hands that dropped off twin emps, the int/attack power nature resist bracers off skeram, the 1 hand AQ20 mace, the ony reward neck with the hit rating, and then I'd swap out trinkets based on my target, reflectors, smoking heart of the mountain, my offhand I had the shadow resist one, the +8 all stats one, and another one that I forget atm but it had spellpower. rings I used seal of the archmagus a lot, or don julio's or the dragonslayer one. the tier 0.5 stuff was also okay, but I replaced the 2 piece bonus from it (+resistances) fairly quickly into AQ

prior to AQ there's a number of pieces other classes don't want but are solid for you. the 2 handed mace that's just simply an upgrade of the unstoppable force in BWL. malfurion's chestpiece srt/stam with a boatload of armor. the AV rewards by themselves are great for druid. obviously you need the healing offhand, but don julio's plus the unstoppable force is very nice for farming or dungeon tanking.
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>>502775190
This. You just know Ramjeet and Prateep are diligently destroying the code base at this very moment so we can have dual specs
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I took the personality Quiz thing and got Tauren as my choice. What should I pick for a class, fellow Bull-Chads?
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>White Nationalist exposed & owned by Ziqo
>constantly dog whistling throughout his entire WoW streaming career while view botting
>Now has switched to being a political clickbait right-wing shill on youtube
So pathetic.
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>>502774624
SoD minus
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>>502775436
>destroying the code base by copy pastaing over the TBC dual spec code
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>>502775658
wrath*
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>>502775598
you don't belong in Europe Ziqo you disgusting mutt
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>>502775436
i imagine this like one of those telecomunications poles in third world countries. bare wires and cables exposed and dangling
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>>502775598
proof?
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>>502775598
he was really brazen. anyone with half a clue about polshit knew he was a chud simply by playing a character named hyperborean
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how did u guys score on the onlyfangs fursona quiz? ^.^
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>>502752873
I'm rolling paladin because of this post
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>>502775598
>>constantly dog whistling
They're saying it, in my mind
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>>502775815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PigP6CudOFY
Allegedly, the dumbass was in all sorts of far-right discord channels on his main discord account he uses for WoW. He was in some major ones saying retarded shit. All the chat logs from what were deemed "extremist discords" during the time (2016-2018ish?) had their logs dumped for doxxing purposes on a far-left website. (unicorn riot)
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>>502776164
that's kind of the opposite of a dog whistle
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>>502776250
Who cares
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>>502776250
>lefties do a cool funny thing
>name it unicorn riot
fucken hell, everytime....
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>>502776250
thanks anon gonna give it a whirl
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>>502776373
>It
>Named unicorn riot
was the name of the group. not the thing that was done by the group
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>>502776341
most intellegent neo-commie witch hunter
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>>502776250
his channel looks unbanned to me
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IS there going to be an oceanic server or not?
Why the fuck can't blizzard just fucking say so?
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>>502776435
Who at the FBI comes up with the names? Same types on animation duty?
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>>502776514
there will not be one
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>>502776592
How do you know?
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>>502776458
It's been banned and unbanned twice since that video. He moved to kick instead.
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>>502776659
>Realm Sizes and Rulesets

>Nowadays, an individual WoW Classic realm can hold many more players at a single time than ever before. For our new fresh Anniversary realms, we’re limiting the total number of realms to choose from at launch to only 1 of each ruleset (Normal (PvE), PvP, and Hardcore).

1 PvP
1 PvE
1 HC
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>>502776659
som and sod oce servers both died. oce doesn't have the population to support a server.
the ping on the US servers from aus isn't even noticeable.
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>>502776729
Next time he won't criticize Israel lobby, if he knows what's good for him
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>>502776875
What # will the PVP layers hit on launch
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>https://youtu.be/5cFj6T9lOtM
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>>502776879
Playerbase was fine on at least 3 OCE servers last clasic to the end of TBC, ie the only content that matters.
Wrath onwards and sod died because the games suck
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>>502776893
>In the last 2 weeks I’ve gotten over 2 million views, which is more than I’d gotten in the prior 7 years, combined. I’ve had my first 1,000,000 view video, and 5 out of the last 7 videos have broken 100,000 views.

making wingcuck ragebait videos is free money wtf
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>>502776875
What's the server cap gonna be like? A PvP megaserver that has like 50k pop or something would be pretty wild even with layering.
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is hc pve only? if you die are you forced into the pve server?
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>>502777157
that was during covid when everyone was at home, plus regular people aren't going to play the game again
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>>502777159
The lobbies pay big on both sides. Just don't say anything of value or you lose your channel
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>>502777293
yes and yes
imagine how nonsense a hardcore PVP server would be
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>>502777015
On NA, depends if retarded cocksuckers like asmongold are playing. That alone can cause multiple hours added to queues. All he has to do is play for 3 hours on the first day and half his damned viewers who don't play WoW will sub/re-sub to EPICLY follow him and join one his guild (in the case of SoD he barley played and had so many dick riders following him they had to make 3 or 4 guilds to fit them all in)

I think there were over 20 on the first day of sod on crusader strike na. That was with multiple servers avail that also had many layers on them. I don't know about this 1 pvp server shit. Surely they will add an extra server, people will refuse to wait a queue, go on that and then that server dies 3 months down the road.
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>>502777364
Because they starved it to death. Fucking SoD lmao, what the fuck was that atrocity
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>>502777431
I'm gonna assume they improved the login servers, maybe during the TWW launch.
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>>502777387
it wouldn't be nonsense, it would just be dead because you'd be swarmed by level 2/3s who only level by exploration camping people when they enter the first pvp zone
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>>502751738
How tryhard is the guild?
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>>502777716
Is this innuendo
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with dual spec on the table, how is pally dungeon tanking? assuming a dungeon like strat/scholo. or is the mana issue just that crippling?
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>>502777387
makes sense, was just checking if rolling on hc at the start was worth it if i want to play on the pvp realm.
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>>502776250
>far right
Doubt. Staykosher is married to a kikess.
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>>502777154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t4wgLLP6eA
intradesting....
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>>502778305
Dunno about that ideal max level dungeon, but leveling dungeons suck ass. Even when it's OP in TBC it's not really fun to tank as until WotLK.
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>>502778305
warr is better and you can just heal unless you really really wanna tank
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I have never in my life seen a female troll rogue
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>>502779075
What about Somethingawf
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>>502776250
So in other words, Staysafe is /ourguy/ and he's a chad
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is it faster to swim to southshore from menethil, or just run through wetlands and arathi
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>>502779387
A toast
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>>502778756
for raids holy is obviously the way to go - and for group pvp, too.
I was more thinking for scougestone farming, but I guess my non holy build will be 20/0/30 instead
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>my wife Jahy hasn't posted since dual spec
Thanks reddit
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>>502779403
swim ofc
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More like Gaysafe LOL
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More like Glee co.
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How contested is a mage spot at 60 really
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>>502775582
Shaman
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I'm going to play a fem hume paladin :3
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>>502779917
Don't they have unlimited shardts? I'm sure you could duo any potential competition
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>>502779636
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I don't enjoy druid healing i don't enjoy priest healing, how likely am I to not enjoy shaman healing either?
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>>502780247
you'll enjoy paladin healing
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>>502780102
what do you mean
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>>502780247
totem twisting satisfies my autism.
might work for you too dawg.
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>>502774087
we all know who wears the pants in that relationship.
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>>502780247
Shaman healing is fun because it's offensive. You can interrupt for your group, drop grounding, tremor, earthbind the fleeing, or to kite. Run up and melee with searing etc. It's more involved anyway
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>>502780315
the teal dress humiliation factor multiplies by each usable armor class
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>>502775598
>>502776250

(You) bait, you're a faggot.

Staysafe is based and ziqo and payo are not white.
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>>502780247
sham you can really make a difference in dungeons via totem usage
r1 chain heal/max rank chain heal
r5/r6 healing wave/max rank healing wave
lesser healing wave in an emergency

in raids you're slamming mostly r1 chain heal followed by r5 or r6 healing wave over and over on green bars
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>dual spec kings
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>>502780505
TRVE BROTHER TRVE
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>>502780247
unlikely. you either like filling bars up or you don't
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>>502780681
Retail-- bros, it's our time
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>>502780693
you're too deep bro, nobody can tell whether you're being serious or satirical. come back.
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i feel like warrior/rogue/mage power trio unironically benefit from dual spec more then hybrids besides druid because part of the reason why hybrids are asked to heal is that their other specs kinda suck and don't work
meanwhile you can literally swap between fire/ice mage for whats optimal. you can prot warrior for dungeons without wanting to fucking kill yourself while leveling. you can have your minmaxed pvp grief people build and your mindless no fun allowed SS spam combat build
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undead or troll mage
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will anniversary be a massive waste of time
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>>502780842
i hate to tell you bro but i took the brownpill, warriors are the way to go for fresh. it's too late to go back
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>>502780925
define "waste of time" and tell me what matters to you in life
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>>502780916
undead pvp troll pve
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>>502780925
just assume it will be doa and level a mage/hunter farm some gold to rmt and call it quits and then sell your account
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>>502780967
Based Reggie
>>
female
troll
druid
moonkin
oce
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>>502780975
waste of time = fun with friends because the only other people playing will be optimization freaks who need retail mythic raid clear proof to join molten core
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>>502781002
will guilds go nuts if I'm undead
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>>502780967
Incredibly based. I'll see you and the other 20 warriors in the raid bro
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>want to be alli
>want to eat the corpses of my enemies
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Tanaris looks cool in a sandstorm
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Why even bother playing a hybrid or anything other than the big 3 (warrior/rogue/mage)? You're basically admitting that you're a background character, a footnote of the times that people look back on poorly as being both horribly designed and pigeonhole?
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Is Human or Orc better for Warrior for minmaxing fags?
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>>502781537
*you* are admitting whatever bullshit you wrote, nobody else is because they aren't mindbroken retards
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>>502750079
I don't want paladins to have a ret spec.
Put on the dress and keep it on.
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>level 20 alch and tailor alts for daily cds
>arms war pvp all day on other account
Yeah im thinking we are home
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>deriving your entire identity and sense of self worth from your world of warcraft character
grim
having said that, yes, i am going to play a human male warrior.
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>>502781647
>I'm so poor in real life that I can't swipe
pathetic.
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reminder for everyone on launch to gatekeep healers from dps positions in your groups. everyone has to do their part.
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>>502781647
>leveling extra 20s let alone staying for 60
cya
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>mfw people think dual spec will add more healers and tanks to the game
>mfw it's just ending up with people having a raid/pvp or two different dps specs
lol, lmao
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>>502781768
pretty sure you can do arcanite at 35 which is when the game turns to shit anyways
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>>502781739
FULL ON PL8
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>10 hunters at 60 ready for TBC
feels goodman
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>>502781608
it's alright, master loot will prevent them from stealing dps gear in dungeons and nobody will allow them to grab raid gear anyway. They'll be forced to afk in AV.
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>>502781706
>human male warrior
Is there really any other choice?
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>>502781894
idgi
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>>502781932
>weapon skill nerfed in tbc
it's called tauren for tanking and orc for deeps
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>>502781706
HUAH
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>>502781814
healing in raids is more fun than shadow, ret or oomkin so it will most likely be dps pvp / heal pve specs
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>>502782085
>dps pvp / heal pve specs
Yeah, that's always what it is
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>>502781894
>10
You can have 50 characters on era, better pump those numbers.
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>>502782172
are you calling my numbers rookie
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>>502781894
what? i doubt era characters goes over to tbc.
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>level on hardcore cause realms will have a fraction of the players for easy levelling
>die at 60
>transfer to your fun retail server
problem?
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>>502782303
transfer to the pve server retirement home*
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>>502782303
>fun retail server
good joke nigga
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>>502782303
It's going to take much longer if you try not to die at all
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>>502781578
If I remember right: Orc sims higher and has higher potential but top logs ended up mostly human because alliance is safer and also because top guilds want to play alliance because it's better for speedrunning.
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>>502782303
lil bro we both know you're gonna die long before 60. Also, as that other anon said, pve realms are the retirement home.
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>>502782032
it wasn't as bad as vanilla, but without human/orc expertise you were still cucked into using worse gear with expertise on it.
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>>502782417
>muh sims
Literally irrelevant for 99.99% of the playerbase, not even worth thinking about. You're not in Apes, Progress or Five sunders lil bro.
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transferring off the HC server should give your character a permanent trans/sissy debuff
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>>502782529
i'm in Six sunders and we're better
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>>502782417
horde dps is capped by the tanks threat while alliance can go monkey mode with salv and not worry about threat
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>>502782529
okay so by the same logic you might as well play ret
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>>502781932
I'm a sucker for plate armor and I want to do damage with a big 2 hander so obviously it's Warrior. Fills that Knight niche very nicely and if I want, I can play as a berserker and dual wield
Prot with sword/board is very kino too
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>>502782605
I'm in seven sunders please, we run this shit.
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new bread?
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>>502782685
I'm in eight sunders and we eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast
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>>502782671
No, because i'm not a homosexual.
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>>502782664
that contributes. but the biggest reason is actually just that the majority of "serious" pve guilds are alliance.
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>>502782796
yeah i also forgot that human racial is preferred by the parsetrannies
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So.. Is there actually any wowg guild on cata or classic? anything? or is this a private server circlejerk
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>>502782958
you have to go back faggot
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UGH I can't decide between Dwarf Hunter and Undead Rogue. Why can't I just make chars of both factions on the PvP server?
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>>502782529
Too bad classic players are fucking toxic twitch-addicted retards who think this way :) good luck finding a guild not being a simmer
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What have you had more fun playiing in classic, mage or sham?
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>>502782958
There has never, and will never be a legit 4chan guild
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>>502783025
>>502783086
Gotcha: so it's a thread for friendless nostalgic boomers who're "above" socializing. cool.
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>classic wowhead has become a half-classic half-sod abomination
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>>502783173
there is no 4chan classic guild unfortunately, but maybe there will be one come fresh
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>>502756114
Is that EU or NA pvp?
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>>502776879
>the ping on the US servers from aus isn't even noticeable.
the fuck are you on about, 200 ping is unplayable
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>>502783205
>classic talent tree calculator has a bunch of the SoD changes baked into it
Fuckin grim I tell ya
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>>502783392
how is it grim they're supporting the best version of vanilla ever made
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>>502783392
https://classicdb.ch/?talent
Wowhead is forever polluted with SoD custom shit.
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>>502783448
why didn't they separate it?
they have a unique classic wowhead for tbc, wotlk and cataclysm.
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>>502781252
no it doesnt really matter that much
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>>502783448
It's grim because there's no filter between SoD/Era, even tho its the easiest thing to add to their site.
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>>502783378
then dont play nigger, the fuck do i care lol? oh no you need 10ms to play your 20 apm game!
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>>502783557
Have you seen their employees
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>>502783790
>>502783790
>>502783790
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>>502783557
The main page is mostly comprised of useless crossposted crap. I remember they literally shilled FFXIV.
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>>502781518
i tell you whats cool. i remember i was playing a private server recently.
had my music playing in the background. wasnt paying much attention
song comes on right when i get to tanaris. thougth it was Tanaris background music. Starting telling the guild i was in the music was fucking slamming.

song moves on later and cats are meowing. realized oh shit this isnt Tanaris wow music. had mp3 player on.

Fits right in great.

>Nine Inch Nails- Coronata Radiata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrhzPhTSxfg
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Ill just say it Paladin is the most reddit class in the game.
dont cryboom at me.



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