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Dispenser Edition

>News
Matchmaking fixes: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=233193

>Official Sites
Blog: https://teamfortress.com
Wiki: https://wiki.tf

>Frag With /tf2g/
When: Friday & Saturday Afternoon. Check for posts in the thread or be the one to announce.
tf2g's Official Server: 78.46.128.115:27015 (EU)
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>Resources
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Mods: https://pastebin.com/8Q6bzADk
Preview Loadouts & Skins: https://loadout.tf | https://weapons.tf | https://p337.info/tfview
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Sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/
Creators Leaks: https://archive.is/GeYbE
tf2g's Guide to Heavy: https://pastebin.com/Y7ZWgt96

>Competitive
News & Events: https://teamfortress.tv
Lobbies & Mixes: https://tf2center.com | https://pastebin.com/vNTDF4eL
Leagues: https://pastebin.com/UJ9sDAdq

>Previous Thread
>>502479678
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will there ever be another major update?
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>>502786365
cute newfriend
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Fuck Miss Pauling. Get head from Miss Pauling. Highlight Miss Pauling posters. Fuck Miss Pauling on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Snap off Miss Paulings bra. Follow Miss Pauling threads. ERP with Miss Pauling posters. Cum inside Miss Pauling. Hang Miss Pauling in shibari bondage. Have Miss Pauling make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into Miss Pauling. Fry Miss Paulings brains with sex. Toss Miss Paulings salad. Urinate into Miss Paulings mouth (she's into it). Judo throw Miss Pauling onto a bed. Blackmail Miss Pauling into sex with their dox. Twist Miss Paulings nipples. Report your love for Miss Pauling to Valve. Always uber Miss Pauling. Split Miss Paulings legs in half. Sexually heal Miss Pauling. Give Miss Pauling surprise buttsex. Critically hit Miss Pauling in the womb. Impregnate Miss Pauling. Get trapped into sex by demon Miss Pauling from the underworld. Dump sperm into Miss Paulings cum dumpster. Submerge Miss Pauling into a vat of cum. Eat Miss Paulings pussy. Dissect Miss Paulings clothes off. Dominate Miss Pauling after defeating a bread monster. Slap Miss Paulings face during sex with the Hot Hand. Give Miss Pauling prom dates. Make Miss Pauling suck'em. Cream inside Miss Paulings' holes. Lobotomize Miss Pauling into a sex slave. Mandatory slut training for Miss Pauling. Give Miss Pauling your love paste. Drown Miss Pauling in mad milk. Whip Miss Paulings ass with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with Miss Pauling. Invite Miss Pauling to your mvm lobby. Feed Miss Pauling your semen. Give Miss Pauling your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck Miss Pauling like an alligator. Slice Miss Paulings clothes off with the half-zatoichi. Clone Miss Pauling to have 2 of your favourite fuck buddy. Listen to Miss Paulings farts through the ConTracker. Take a golden shower with Miss Pauling. Lick every sweaty surface on Miss Pauling. Tongue punch Miss Paulings fart box. Ignore "this but xyz" posters because Miss Pauling is superior.
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>>502792478
this but fempyro
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>>502791875
soulful thread
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>go heavy on badwater
>click on people
>suddenly I am topscoring and at the end im 85 while others are 50-60
Maybe I should play Heavy more?
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>>502791875
sex with dispenser lady
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>>502793309
CART HUGGER
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>>502793608
дa
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>class specifically made for retards
you could say that about all classes, you retard
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>>502793309
i get bored playing heavy easily. what's your secret?
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>>502793897
My secret is that i don't main heavy...
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>>502793706
post your id lil bro
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Post funny item names
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>>502793706
nerd talking shit when hes too afraid to quote on 4chan lmao
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>>502794371
is this funny if you have really severe autism or are 11?
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>>502794371
who the hell names a taunt
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>>502793897
Aquire a taste for Russian literature
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i hate that tomislav is pretty much a direct upgrade over stock
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Is Spy really the worst class? I think I die to him way more than Pyro, Heavy, or Scout. An autistic Spy is one of the most annoying things to fight in the game besides pocket Medic and Sniper.
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>>502797138
Yes. Anything he can do, another class can do better
>DM'ing behind enemy lines
scout, soldier
>destroying sentries
demoman
>picking off high priority targets
sniper

the worst part is that they can all do it from relative safety, aren't at an immediate disadvantage when caught out at a bad time, and aren't completely countered by being more observant than a baked potato
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Place stickybombs under healthpacks and then detonate them when an enemy tries to get them.
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>improved matchmaking
>every casual i join there's 1 cheater, 1 bf/gf cheating como or both
yeah really improved there...
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>>502798851
we still have no idea what improved matchmaking even means
they could've done absolutely nothing and nobody would notice because they don't show their work
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>>502799030
some autismchad will dig up the details sooner or later
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>>502791875
Is that a dispenser I see?
https://youtu.be/WVYzEC8dLwM
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*overheals everyone in the thread*
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>>502797079
tomislav is baby nap nap easy mode
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>>502801019
I've missed you
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3 NIGAS
ON CART
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>?
How do you respond?
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Kill pyros. Behead pyros with the eyelander. Roundhouse kick a pyro onto the control point. Slamdunk a gibus pyro into the trash. Crucify filthy pyro mains. Defecate into a pyros sandvich. Launch pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry pyros in a wok. Toss pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a pyros gasstank. Judo throw pyros into a woodchipper. Twist pyros heads off. Report pyros to Valve. Karate chop pyros in half. Curbstomb pregnant pyros. Trap pyros in quicksand. Dump pyros into the grinder on mannhattan. Liquify pyros into a vat of acid. Eat pyros. Dissect pyros. Exterminate pyros in MGE. Stomp on pyros skull with the mantreads. Cremate pyros with the degreaser. Lobotomize pyro mains. Mandatory trade bans for pyros. Crush pyros into a paste. Drown pyros in jarate. Vapourize pyros with a pomson. Kick a monkey pyro from your mvm lobby. Feed pyros to alligators. Slice pyros open with the half-zatoichi.
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>>502807171
reply with more '?'s up to the character limit
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>>502807171
:o
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>>502807171
ez
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anything spy can do sniper does better. Sniper does everything better than spy.
>pick class
sniper has infinite range for his instakills, spy has to be in melee range
>stealth class
sniper is stealthier because he can kill you from any distance and you only know where the sniper is after he kills you
>countering engineers
spy cucked by a pybro, nothing to stop a sniper from doming the engineer and allowing his team to destroy the engineer’s now unattended buildings
>support class
more effectiveness as a pick class+ jarate is invaluable support
>counterplay
spys counterplay is turning around. sniper’s counterplay is…..???????????? just don’t be in an open area at any time bro
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spy also requires you actually using your brain and sniper just requires muscle memory
In comparison to sniper, spy requires more intellect, skill, and situational awareness and he is STILL a much weaker class.
Why would you play spy when sniper exists?
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hon hon hon *snort* not medicine!
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poot
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>>502810284
there is one thing that spy is better at however, giving me a dopamine hit, nothing feels as good as chainstabs and fun is more valued than efficiency
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>>502792040
I hope so. I don't like hearing people say "TF2 doesn't need another major update" (it does).
https://blog.tf2maps.net/a-chat-with-eric-at-valve-hq/
>[Eric Smith] also mentioned that there were a number of fun things they'd like to do, but weren't necessarily actively being worked on.
I think they do want to bring TF2 another major update but they don't have a big enough dev team
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Hmmm, what shall I play as in this match? How about as second medic? With Kritzkrieg? Good idea!
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The Heavy Paradox
>Slow and oversized
>Can't dodge anything, gets hit by all rockets, flares, etc
>Easiest pipe target too
>Further immobilizes himself just to shoot
>Giant magnet for all the bullshit that happens in every match
>Snipers and spies have a minimap exclusively for showing where the enemy heavy is at all times
>Can't corner peek, gets shit on as a result by all the classes who can
>Needs to be played by someone with a brain because his lack of mobility makes positioning so important
>Yet the good players on your team are better on any other class that isn't designed to be a meatshield to get gibbed in frag videos
Yet the team without heavy always loses to the team that has one or two heavies? Where's the logic in this?
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>>502825945
>>Snipers and spies have a minimap exclusively for showing where the enemy heavy is at all times
Wtf I don't have this in my game.
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>>502827140
get LMAOBOX
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Yeti Cancelling buckbroke this community
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>sniper aimbotting for 2 hours straight
>no one says a thing
>say something racist
>instant mute + 3 different reports on the forums
i hate skial
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>>502830949
hard being a based man in a cringe world
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>>502830949
just play casual bro, or zesty's servers
>>502830575
wtf even is that? I NEVER see anyone using the yeti taunt anymore
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how the fuck is it possible that I google 'tf2 tr walkway laggy ramp' and not even a single match

nobody on the planet had this before me in 2024?
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>>502830949
Why are you playing on Minecraft servers and 24/7 hightower instant respawn no carts x100 in the first place?
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>tf2's biggest fans missed the golden age and will be perpetual secondaries who started playing the game in the 2010s
many such cases!
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>>502833504
>wtf even is that?
Basically, you can use the Yeti Smash taunt right before the sticky/rocket jump to turn into a yeti for a split second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEsAacuZOkA
It has already evolved into another "new vs old" and "muh artstyle" shitfest. Pic related.
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>>502835425
Any recommendations on what servers to play? I've been playing Skial servers as they had many players when I was online
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>>502836151
someone please get chudsty on the line
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>>502836151
>this fag was literally 2 years old when i bought orange box
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>>502836151
there is at least one (1) guy in that picture that will NEVER be a woman
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>>502807201
this but soldier
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>>502836513
>Brazilian
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>>502836085
this is why they long for an update so much (#FixTF2 or #UpdateTF2), most of them started playing after gun mettle and they never experienced a good update.
also love and war was over 10 years ago already
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>>502836268
just copy and paste all this into the blacklisted tags thing on the server browser, it helped me find normal servers: bots,jump,arena,trade,achievements,zombie,10x,slender,achievement,mvm,100%,friendly,100crit,mge,uncletopia,1000,wars,surf,deathrun,orange,deathmatch,dm,x10,trading,rtd,randomiser,mario,x100,idle
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Alert, The Floyd has taken our fentilligence.
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>>502836513
As someone who recently returned to TF2 I thought it would be full of boomers not teenagers
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>>502837418
free game nigga
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>>502836151
>filename
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>>502836151
>"the restrained 50s cold war art direction"
Unironically anyone still posting about this shit in the 2024th(soon to be 2025th) Year of Our Lord is pseudmaxxing. The artstyle got fucked over a decade ago.
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>>502841691
uhhh, zestysissies, our response???????
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We should email valve about yeti cancelling being p2w and get valve to remove yeti cancelling
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>Most Youtuber-Obsessed General Award
When did /tf2g/ reach the point of compulsively namedropping 2bers? Discussing them has always been a thing but I don't remember it being this bad before the pandemic
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The continued existence of the Yeti Smash taunt is an insult to the carefully crafted aesthetic of Team Fortress 2.
My spray depicting Asuka with big boobs and rippling muscles, and my objector depicting the same are NOT violations of the artstyle.
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>>502845468
Will you retards stop bitching about "ecelebs" in the threads? It's fucking retarded. Even if you dont like "x eceleb" its still related to tf2. If someone makes a counter strike thread, you retards wouldnt say the eceleb shit if someone starts talking about a pro player. same with dota or any other video game that has infamous player, so what makes tf2 different. you fucking idiots use that like some form of protection against criticism like you want to be above us? why? are you fags that big of a loser that you want to feel better for once in your life? Shut the fuck up and let people talk about their "ecelebs" do you really want to talk about the same dumb shit about why all game modes are bad and why any weapon you dont use is bad? for fucks sake you guys are the biggest retards.
>i dont like x person online so no one can talk about them
fuck off you pretentious sad pussies
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>>502845880
You spent a lot of effort on a troll post, idk what the point of that fake good-faith-argument shit is when the rest of this thread is right here
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>>502845880
based. although to play devil's advocate, any counter strike thread on this site is absolute dog shit because all they do is talk about pro players or spam the same webms accusing someone of being a cheater because they're shit at the game and jealous of their success.
in order for me to retain interest in a game i need to be able to consistently talk about it on this site since i have no friends so i pretty much dropped cs because of it
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>the comics are shit
aryan truke
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>>502847031
They're a fun read but it reeks of millenial writing which doesn't compare to the gold-mine that is the in-game writing.
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>>502845618
I say this but instead of muscle Asuka it's femscout's ass
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>>502845618
I don't say this...
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>>502848061
i feel like the update comics were better than the tf comics
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How did people get access to Portal beta builds? Did they leak from somewhere?
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>>502807201
Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Cum inside filthy pyro cunts. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Blackmail pyros into sex with their dox. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Split pyros' legs in half. Sexually heal pyros. Give pyros surprise buttsex. Critically hit pyros in the womb. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Give pyros health packs. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
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>>502854716
this but femsoldier
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>>502836151
>>502841691
>>502845618
Le Emporium xisters have invaded ze thread...
This is NOT wholesome!
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>>502854613
original guy who got it somehow then shared it with friends and then one friend leaks it to someone else and it goes on and on until it becomes publicly available to download
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>Queue into server on BLU
>Team has 5 snipers
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>Become the 6th
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>>502856304
and all of them better than you
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>>502857621
god i wish that were me
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Hi tf2g
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>>502857621
god i wish i was having sex with her
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>>502858548
hi
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>>502861284
right now im studying for my computer architecture class
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Do a cosmetic livestream (and talk about why yetis suck) you lazy fuck
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i sent zesty fanart a week or two ago and i don't think he liked it a lot but he told me thank you and god bless and it made me feel nice
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Was he right?
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>>502868964
i’d need to see his arguments first
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>>502868964
I feel like putting a singleplayer game on the list is pushing it
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>>502868964
>twitter tranny ripoff
>literal nobody
>putting third person shooters, moba and quakelikes in the same tierlist
>putting dead games on the list
wew
>>502869356
half the games on the list are single player (because they're dead)
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that does make me wonder how do hardcore hl1 dm players feel about the balance changes
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melee idea for demoman: a glass pitcher that when equipped with a shield lets you charge though walls like the kool-aid man
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how do you get good at demoman? I mean besides just spamming pipes and stickies and the point. I can get a lot of kills like that but I actually want to be able to defend myself when a somewhat competent scout or soldier gets close to me
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>>502868964
>HL:DM
>hard to aim
??????????
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>>502870639
just spam but closer
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>>502868964
>aim somehow being hardest in overwatch despite many characters having auto aim / snapping / large projectile weapons
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do you ever get tired of falling for bait?
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Every post here is genuine tho
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>>502875087
is it?
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>>502875087
some posts are a little strange
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I saw this cool horror story based on empty servers of TF2. Wanted to share with you guys.

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyEL-_bIxQQ

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA8xb-o8ezE
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>>502870639
Demo is a class that's very easy to have a large impact with in many situations on asymmetrical maps. The class starts to get harder when you're in a situation outside of chokepoint spam such as fighting a 1v1 or a long range engagement in the open. Huge parts of playing well in these situations are positioning, how well you strafe and how you use each shot.

One of the most common things I see when fighting a 1v1 is someone will wall themselves on one side. It's natural to want to fire stickies directly at them, but it's often better to virtually wall them off on the other by placing stickies to the side of them, then shoot stickies or pipes directly at their player model. This isn't intuitive by any means and is only something that comes playing with time. You can do similar things in 1v1 situation in the open; place stickies on the ground to prevent your opponent from moving there, then use pipes to shoot him directly because his movement is restricted. The main thing to do is get a feel for aiming your stickies and sense for the arming delay.

Positioning and strafing are another story and transfer to other classes, but Demo can make good use of them because of his decent movement speed and ability to fight at medium range compared to a class like Pyro who is faster but wants to fight closer. You generally want to use cover more than a Soldier and fight less directly. One common mistake you'll make when starting out is feeling the need to stickyjump in the way a Soldier does, but this isn't really the case. Because of the less forgiving projectiles you have compared to Rockets or Scattergun shots, you're better off to advance slowly on foot and use explosive jumping to retreat. In a nutshell, think of Demo as a cannon and Soldier as, fittingly, a soldier with a rocket launcher. A cannon cannot be easily moved but fires further and is more powerful, while a soldier is more mobile but less destructive.

For strafing, jump less and stand still often.
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>>502873220
there is a non-zero chance that "aimer7" genuinely believed those opinions
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>>502877561
the fuck is this shit lmao
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>>502878330
nobody is reading your essays solarlight
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>>502878330
Demoman is still overpowered in 1v1 because the grenade launcher will destroy anything if you can actually aim.
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Is Pyro canonically a rock fan?
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>>502792478
>>502792816
The most obvious samefagging loser in the world
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>>502791875
ARGGHHHHHH MUST GOON TO ANTHROPOMORPHIC THING THAT VAGUELY RESEMBLES A WOMAN HNNNGN

GOOOOOOOON
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>>502837178
Nice picture
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>>502837178
>no fun allowed
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What each Heavy melee says about you

>fists/stock reskin
Noob or wacky

>gru
Heavy main

>fist of steel
Heavy main, and an asshole

>kgb
Based

>holiday punch
Wacky asshole

>warrior's spirit
Noob

>eviction notice
Doesn't exist
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>>502870340
what changes? the grenade physics that changed a couple years ago?
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>>502870639
play with training bots on expert and watch what the bot demos do; they'll aim stickies at the skybox to mortar them down onto popular sentry locations
learn how to do that on popular maps and you'll be a god
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>>502883662
me as wacky
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>>502883662
man got his uber push stuffed by a random crit punch and had to listen to his character laughing while the über ran out
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>>502837315
Announcer: INTRUDER ALERT! A RED SPLOYD IS IN THE BASE!

Soldier (played by D. Chauvin): A red sployd is in the base?

Announcer: Protect the breathecase! (Team Floyd 2 term for oxygen tank)

Soldier: We need to protect the breathecase!

Scout: Yo, a lil' help here?

Soldier: I got it. 8, 0, 0, 8, 1, 3 ummm, 5.

Scout: Go, go.

Heavy Breathing Guy: INCOO- *coughs* *slows down* *takes a moment to regain breath*

Scout: AAA-hey, it's still here!

Sployd: Ahem. Fentlemen.

[Meet the Sployd intro plays.]

Sployd: I see the breathecase is safe. Tell me, did you happen to kill a red sployd on the way here? No? Then we still have a problem.

Soldier: And a needle.

Scout: Ooh, big problem. I've killed plenty of sployds, they're dime-a-dozen pregnant woman-stabbing nignogs - like you! Ow. No offense.

Sployd: If you managed to kill them I assure you they were not like me. And nothing, nothing like the thug loose inside this building.

Scout: What are you, president of his fent club?

Sployd: No, that would be yo girl!
Scout: [Stammers]
Sployd: Indeed, and now he's here to c**k us! So listen up boy, or pornography starring Ms. Pauling will be the second worst thing that happens to you today.

Soldier: Oh! *The Original deploys*

Scout: Gibs me dat

Sployd: The sployd has already breached our defentses.

Engineer: Fentry down!

Sployd: We've seen what he's done to our homies!

Demofloyd: [Gets backstabbed] Aww sheiit!

Sployd: And worst of all, he could be any one of y'all niggas!

Muhdik: I can't crit!
Red Sployd: [Turns into Muhdik]
Muhdik: Naa...

Sployd: He could be you G, he could be me, dis nigga could even be-

Scout: Whoa, whoa, whoa!

Soldier: What? It was obvious! He's the red sployd! Watch, he should be turning red any second now......any second. See, red! Oh, wait that's blood.

Heavy Breathing Guy: So.. *breathes* we still have problem.

Soldier: Big problem. All right, who's ready to go find this Sployd?

Scout (now Red Sployd): Right behind yous.
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Do you guys have friends who play tf2
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>>502882757
why do women make you seethe this much
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That's a robot.
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nigger
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uhhhh can we please kick this guy for racism?
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>>502794371
Do I win? I paid $200 for this son of a bitch. I had it on display on my Steam profile and then some faggot went and reported my profile and Valve removed the showcases from my profile, but didn't even go the extra step to forcibly rename the flamethrower.
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F1
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b-b-b-based
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>paying $200 for nothing other than an item name from a common, easy to reproduce exploit
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>>502890326
That was... Breathtaking.
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>easy to reproduce
they patched the exploit doe
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>>502902887
exploit was patched newfriend
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genius idea: we find a bug which gives free tradeable unusual items via the casual matchmaking system so valve reverts to quickplay
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genius idea: lets crash the economy by not playing TF2 anymore
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>>502908458
I'm aware it was patched, I used it myself.
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>>502797138
heavy is the worst class in the game and spy is second. i will overthrow a small to medium sized nation over this debate. spy is not the worst class in the game.
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>>502810284
go back FUNKe tard
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>>502810615
i don't like playing a 1 dimensional class
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>>502916079
heavy is the easiest class in the game but not the worst.
pyro is the worst class in the game, he has to try so much harder than every other class, there's a million and one ways to counter him, and any time he finds some way to actually kill people valve nerfs it
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>>502837418
then soon those teenagers will grow older and pass the game down to younger kids. it's a thing called 'tradition'
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>>502916419
i was literally thinking of ranking pyro below spy, are you reading my mind
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>>502916523
yes, it's a dark place in there
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shounic, remove the spray limit
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>>502892687
Fuck off racist cunt

>>502890326
GEM
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nigger
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>>502916419
>pyro is the worst class in the game, he has to try so much harder than every other class
he's literally the noskill braindead class that gets to spam flares down chokes and inconvenience literally the entire enemy team by setting them on fire and they're fucked unless they have a competent medic or pyro extinguishing everyone because there's not enough hp packs to go around
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>>502920272
>that gets to spam flares down chokes and inconvenience literally the entire enemy team by setting them on fire
yeah, and kill literally nobody
>and they're fucked unless they have a competent medic or pyro extinguishing everyone because there's not enough hp packs to go around
or they don't have a sniper with jarate
or a sniper with the sydney sleeper
or a spy with the spycicle
or a scout with mad milk
or an engineer with a dispenser
or a heavy with a sandvich
or there's no water on the map

there are so many fucking ways to ignoring afterburn it literally doesn't matter, and you started by listing 3 other ways
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Entire team gets trapped in spawn due to flog pyro with pocket medic again
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>>502882032
is scout canonically an aerobics championships fan?
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>>502920545
>yeah, and kill literally nobody
you don't need to kill them if you can prevent them from coming down the choke with full hp
also that's a misnomer, you *will* kill someone
>or they don't have a sniper with jarate
>or a sniper with the sydney sleeper
>or a spy with the spycicle
>or a scout with mad milk
>or an engineer with a dispenser
>or a heavy with a sandvich
>or there's no water on the map
none of these things ever happen except for maybe the engi or the heavy. you're just listing everything that can put out fire to complain
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>>502920872
>you don't need to kill them if you can prevent them from coming down the choke with full hp
if it's a payload map it literally doesn't matter because the payload is a dispenser, and if your team doesn't have a medic that can swap targets for 2 seconds you're fucked even if there wasn't a pyro
>also that's a misnomer, you *will* kill someone
you can mildly inconvenience the enemy team by spamming flares, even with the scorch shot, but you will not reliably get any kills just by spamming, you'll have to push in and try to get double hits or hits with another weapon to finish someone off
trust me, as a professional scorch shot shitter
>none of these things ever happen except for maybe the engi or the heavy. you're just listing everything that can put out fire to complain
the likelihood that the team lacks not only a medic, but another pyro, a sniper that doesn't have jarate (every sniper has this), or failing that the danger shield or sydney sleeper, or a scout with mad milk, or a set up dispenser, or a heavy with sandvich (every heavy has this), or even ones I forgot like a spy with dead ringer (every spy has this), or a payload cart, or a demoknight, is EXCEPTIONALLY low, to the point where it's not even worth arguing that somehow you'd lack any possible way of dealing with afterburn spam
any one of those classes will laugh at the pyro and kill them UNLESS they have a pocket medic like the other anon suggested, but pocket medics are oppressive no matter who they're attached to and arguably would be more effective on a better class
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>>502921339
if it's a payload map you can just spam the cart with the scorch shot and knock them around and light multiple people on fire since they're all packed together to quickly charge your phlog

you will kill someone by spamming flares, you're not the only one on your team shooting at the other team, someone is bound to be low hp. you're also slowing down any rate of healing they're having applied to them by setting them on fire, and also forcing them to go heal instead of push your team. also, apparently you're not since you don't recognize the boon that payload is for phloggers

again, you're just making shit up to complain. pyros rarely if ever extinguish their team, snipers will never throw jarate at anything other than themselves to put out afterburn, they definitely literally never use the sydney sleeper for that because they A. don't even know that's a function and B. it barely works due to weird hitreg issues anyway, scouts have the same deal as snipers with never throwing milk on their team, dispensers are in the enemy back line so you've made them fuck off, heavies will only eat the sandwich or throw it at their med in the back line, and congrats you've made the spy useless for the next minute and a half.

quit being a big baby. you bring this shit up every two months with the same exact complaints and it gets refuted with the same exact points. learn to flank and quit being a shitter
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>>502921938
>if it's a payload map you can just spam the cart with the scorch shot and knock them around and light multiple people on fire since they're all packed together to quickly charge your phlog
and again, not actually kill anyone
having to "charge up" a real weapon to THEN go in and be able to actually kill people just proves my point that pyro has to work harder than any other class, a real damage class can just go in and get kills without having to charge something up first
>you will kill someone by spamming flares, you're not the only one on your team shooting at the other team, someone is bound to be low hp.
the same argument can be applied to any other class that can spam and get lucky kills on low hp targets, it doesn't somehow make flare spam unique or special to pyro. you'd be way more effective as a demoman or soldier spamming at the cart than a pyro spamming flares
>again, you're just making shit up to complain.
I'm not making up anything, you started by raising an ultimatum that it's somehow impossible to counter a flare spamming pyro without a medic, pyro, or healthkit so I started listing every other possible way because valve keeps adding more ways to counter afterburn because of retards like you that think it's OP
>quit being a big baby. you bring this shit up every two months
what the fuck? this is the first time I've bothered posting about this shit schizo and it's only because someone else said pyro wasn't the worst class and you started pressing me on it
newsflash: a lot of people correctly identify him as the worst class, it's not a unique opinion. real shitters are the ones that somehow think flares are oppressive
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>>502922738
https://youtu.be/DvnfpDVLWOI
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>>502922774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOHsAYfYIO0
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soldier and demo might be better to run solo but pyro with phlog is a better medic pocket than either of them
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>>502922942
i am always surprised at how infrequently i see a phlog + stock uber buttbuddy duo. seems like it would be extremely powerful
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>>502926946
>it would be extremely powerful
for you
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>>502893769
I remember you buying it from some guy in the general. I was worried they would wipe the name but it's good they didn't. I'd say yours wins.
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Is there any way for me to connect to American tf2 servers?

I'm tired of shitty eu ones, help me bros
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>>502927516
click on the shit in the upper lefthand corner
raise your ping limit to include US servers
you can't blacklist EU ones
you can thank valve removing ad-hoc connections from valve servers for preventing you from simply joining the specific valve server you actually want to
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WATCH OUT! the tradermains have arrived
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>>502927516
your ping is going to be atrocious
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>>502930249
I won't lie, sometimes I wish I was a tradermain...
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>>502930737
they never bribe the enemy team to let us win doebeit
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>>502928218
I did raise it and still doesnt give me american servers
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>>502930375
I'm in the uk and i get like 97 ping on virginia, its fine
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>With bots genocided and matchmaking fixed so I don't queue into half-full Hong Kong servers while playing less than 100 miles from the Virginia east coast server, the game is in a healthier state than it has been in for years and years
>/tf2g/ is worse than ever
Irony poisoning and shitpost-for-shitpost and their consequences.
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>>502931702
it prioritizes those closest to you
>>502931878
>97 ping
>its fine
do you only play heavy, engi, and pyro or something
>>502933309
bots are semi-gone, you still see one or two every now and again, matchmaking wasn't fixed, nobody knows wtf they even meant by that in the update because nothing changed, and you still can't scramble, change teams, spectate, join via ad-hoc connection, extend map without reloading, play on a map more than 3 rounds, or any of the other basic bitch shit that made tf2 actually fun to hop into
now it's all just trying to minimize time spent queuing and tryharding so you can squeeze the most "fun" out of a match between queuing sessions

tf2 is loading screen simulator trying to find a decent game
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>>502933606
>tf2 is loading screen simulator trying to find a decent game
meh i just queue for games while i'm in a game so i barely see the load screens. what's annoying is you can't queue for custom servers while playing matchmaking
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>>502930249
I really wish they would have put a limit of one on the amount of unusual hat effects you can have on. It's even worse when most of the miscs you can make these gaudy combos with are hideous.
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>>502934027
>meh i just queue for games while i'm in a game
how do you enjoy sitting in loading screens more than finishing a match
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>4 engies on the team
>I am the only one with a dispenser built
>The 3 others crowd around it leeching metal
>They all build their own sentries(no dispensers, no teles)
>They lack metal to upgrade them so it's all T1 sentries that instantly die
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>>502936152
fucking this
why are they all useless retarded leeches
they'll put all their sentries in the same spot so they all get blown up at the same time but they won't ever consider doing that with their dispensers so everyone can share metal and people can jump in the dispenser pile to instantly get healed to full from 1hp
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I watched Gabber's stealth sniper video and came up with this Hitman's Heatmaker redesign:
>Silent killer, no killcam.
>Become semitransparent when scoped in after 3 seconds.
>Remain scoped in after shooting.
>-33% damage
>Imagine seeing your teammates head just flying off without a scream, only blood splatter sounds.
>It becomes a game of hide and seek to find the sniper.
Discuss
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>>502942945
sounds really annoying
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>>502942945
everything except for the no killcam sounds stupid
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>It becomes a game of hide and seek to find the sniper.
As if Snipers needed to be even harder to engage for 8/9 of the game's classes.
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>>502942945
Invisible Snipers should never be added to this game and you are an actual dysgenic for even suggesting this.
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I run across the sniper battlements as a dalokahs buffed FoS heavy just so my snipers can shoot the enemy snipers after they shoot me
I feel no remorse, they all deserve it
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>>502943721
>>502944521
Add a no charging downside and it's literally just the old ambassador with a scope.
>>502944789
A regular sniper that can quickscope and is protected by his team is still more powerful.
>>502945242
Not invisible, just harder to see at first glance.
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>>502945741
no it's not
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https://youtu.be/d4qZgVAxnZ8
I swear it's like they're paid actors
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(tf2 music plays)
MEET THE SCHIZO
(20 minutes of unedited footage of >>502947141 angrily ranting about nothing in public starts playing)
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>>502948505
you good schizo?
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>>502948631
if he were a bad schizo he wouldn't be here ranting about it now would he
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>>502930249
zestytroons FEAR this image
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Real players need no hats to be good
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>>502930249
https://pevhs.ch/tf2/nhbgum/
The what?
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all spy mains use autostab scripts
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>>502958524
as an aspiring spy player I am starting to believe this
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>>502958524
this is a fact you cannot convince me otherwise
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>>502942945
I would love this, my favorite playstyle is sniper is trying to get behind the enemy team and snipe from a spot they'd never think to look
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>>502868964
>aim is impactful in overwatch
>the game where tanks walk around with a 30 ft wide shield
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>>502805960
What did he mean by this?
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>>502952369
No, but they sure are pretty to look at and get me free compliments from time to time :)
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>>502963818
>caring about compliments in a video game
that's sad bro, maybe lift your irl appearance to a comparable standard
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>>502963818
Men shouldn't care about getting their appearance complimented (either IRL or in a videogame) because you are supposed to dress practically, i.e: function over form. Men's fashion should be subtle as to not elicit compliments in the first place. You should be wearing whatever helps you frag in TF2.
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>>502964898
My girlfriend calls me her handsome baby, so I'm set on irl compliments

508
I didn't say I rely on my sexy loadouts to fish for compliments, but it's definitely a plus of having these sexy loadouts for my mains
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>>502968842
what about online compliments big boy?
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>>502969981
They're nice :)
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and is this girlfriend in the room with us right now
>c-check archive from x years ago
pics now or didn't happen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuKHFjZ0ThU
new vorebay dropped
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I've been using a hack for the past week and spectating people with ESP turned on, it's incredible how many people just blatantly hack.
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>>502825945
A Heavy is a walking sentry and given how an engie can camp and get a killstreak so long as he moves once, a heavy is constantly moving, making an area suicidal to approach unless you have multiple members backing you.
When a heavy is on offense then his life is much harder as the team is usually ready for a push, so a heavy with a medic is an invincible sentry if the player has good tracking.
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>>502968508
Dressing nicely is done for yourself, not to elicit compliments. In TF2, if you create a generically nice looking loadout, that means less than a loadout that's based on or a reference to something that you enjoy. Wearing a three piece suit IRL while fragging is impractical, but if you enjoy wearing that while fragging why does it matter?
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>>502968508
Is this why I frag better as pyro when wearing lingerie?
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We need this dance as an all-class taunt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SECT1bvLMs
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>>502973670
you should record evidence and expose cheaters anonymously
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I'm going to kill you in real-life if you use the scorch shot.
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>>502972996
went from "wife" to "on-and-off girlfriend"... very interesting!
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>>502974202
basically without a heavy your team will be a lot easier to push into
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>>502976289
he's just schizoid about it and brings it every now and then that he has someone, yet he's unironically on the same level as zesty minus the muscle fetish obviously, either way, same level different schizo yapping
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>>502890326
do you have the demofloyd pic
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>>502976493
my queen
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does anyone have that medic "great" image saved?
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>>502981426
the what?
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>>502982079
yeah
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>>502982079
I do
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>>502976493
Wait... You can post MP4's here?
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>>502973628
>sure hes clearly hacking and being a massive fucking asshole 100% of the time but maybes hes just trolling
>calling someone the n word and telling people to kys isnt being toxic
What the fuck kind of logic is this? Is vorobey going senile?
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>>502984368
awkwardness which comes from being a russian youtuber who doesn't actually care about homophobia/racism/toxicity but has to pretend like he does so he doesn't stop getting views from kids
even on camera he is pretty toxic in game, hes probably worse when not being filmed
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theres less than 700 people in the scene lmao. everyone saying its alive and well are coping hard.

b4nny's lifetime winnings are like only 40k loool. is this the pinnacle of comp tf2??

if you go to a lan youll see the same people and no new faces. "pugs" outside of na or eu have terminal brain cancer. south america and australia is the same 20 suicidal guys scrimming all day and pretending that 10k hours in tf2 was worth something. highlander "scrims" are the same 50 chronically online no lifes. all the other "comp veterans" only play mge or 24/7 hightower and perma have lft in their steam name lmao.

theres a reason why most tf2 players are on casual. its because comp tf2 is a version of tf2 tailored for autists and egomaniac tryhards.

tf2 is a casual game. always will has been and always will be. you cant force it to be something its not.

(and dont play uncletopia. uncletopia is "casual" for competitive tryhards that are too scared to roster up because they dont want to be exposed for being a god awful player)
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It's impossible to get people on a server to notice that someone is cheating unless the cheater is blatantly aimbotting as Sniper.
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>>502986090
only if they are good player, low hour players are useless for that
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>>502985312
Whether or not a game has an active competitive scene has nothing to do with it being casual oriented and everything to do with how much money is invested into it. TF2's competitive scene is dying off due to age and lack of investment. Meanwhile, you have active competitive scenes for Minecraft and fucking Pokemon Go. People literally seeing who can tap their phone faster. All because there's money in it.
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>>502976493
>>502984213
Well that's news to me
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1732040710896910.mp4
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>>502989995
Genuinely I wanna see if other boards have it, /trash/ might not
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>>502985312
wild_rumpus debunked this
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what are the ethics of using looping taunts to see around corners
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>>502996168
fair and balanced
like my dick in your ass
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>>502996168
i feel like you'd run into the problem of you could be doing something better than idling around a corner to maybe get a callout on an enemy

I would like to see examples of it being used in comp to get an edge though once in a blue moon their bans are well-researched
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>>502996759
it’s banned in comp (unlike most of their bans, this one is justified imo)
knowing your opponent’s location while they don’t know yours is really good, especially for detonating stickytraps from around a corner
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>>502996168
there's nothing wrong with it from a tf2 perspective but it is a cheap trick and slightly unethical
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>fan animations and stuff get 100k+ views
>god forbid any of them play the game
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>>502997534
It is unironically the reason why a bunch of zoomer kids play the game now at all. It's just that proportionally, for every 1 kid that actually downloads the game there's like 100 that are content just watching someone else play games because that's their generation
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>swiftwater match going kinda meh
>go with demo behind enemy lines cause he was doing a good job imo
>we stay there for like 3 or more minutes and i even gained uber over time...twice
>nobody from team even tried to push the cart
>it all felt like 2v12
>faggots were too scared to touch cart even though we cleared the enemy stage by half near nests and kept them from near cart as much as we could
??? what is this dogshit brainrotted matchmaking nowdays, even if we did team wipe the enemy lines, our team would not do much...
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>>502998894
it's why i've become an objective whore because if I'm not playing the objective who will
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>>502998894
some games are gonna be unwinnable (look at this zero point team i got)
your goal shouldn’t be to win every game, just try to have a high win percentage
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>>502997534
>just 100k+ views
That Kostamoinen guy gets nearly 100 million views on his shorts.
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>>502999487
yeah that's why I put a plus in there
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>>502988773
faggot
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>>502999207
>your goal shouldn’t be to win every game, just try to have a high win percentage
your goal should be to have fun nigga
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>>503000531
I don't post frogs often I just like that particular frog
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>>503000817
pyro booba.....
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>>503000817
SEXOOO
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>>502930249
POORNIGGER
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>>503000817
winning is fun
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>>502997910
I don't understand this mentality. Sure, if you are trying to learn something, have to go out in 10 minutes or you are already out, but sitting at your PC and watching someone else play a game that you are able to download and play for free is insane.
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>>503003601
I had a friend like that growing up, he'd come over and I'd offer him to play a game with him and he'd always say he just wanted to watch me play it. Never understood it. Now there's a whole generation of kids like that that got used to watching let's plays or streams on Youtube and Twitch. I guess they either enjoy the parasocial thing more than the game itself or they've gotten so used to passively consooming content it's easier to sit there and watch someone play it than exert the effort to play it.
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I just saw a pyro with a spider face and it isn't halloween. Why is that in the game?
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How would you rank these 3 classes from top to bottom for the rarest main?

Engi, Heavy, and Medic.
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>>503008440
engi is most common
medic is a vocal minority
heavy is a very vocal minority

t. heavy "main"
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>>503008440
Medic > Heavy > Engie
A lot of casual players gravitate to Medic because they can just press M1 and be credit to team
Same thing with Heavy, low skill and high reward, and you'll often see Heavy mains queuing together with their Medic main gfs
Engie mains actually aren't all that common because it's a thankless job and requires a lot of micromanagement, but do see a spike when Uncle Dane uploads a new meme strat

t. Engie main
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doctor
are you sure this will work
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>>503010687
No :/
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>>503009302
correct ranking
it should be noted that engineer main numbers are inflated by dane fans and that the difference would be far less pronounced if you did some kind of skill filtering
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>>503010687
YES!!! *dies from a headshot*
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Video is coming out tomorrow guys! Are you excited?!
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no
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dubs names it
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>>503015954
The opposite of purple is green you retard!
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>>502996168
Based if you're larping as solid snake spy with the box, gay if you're doing it as sniper or any class that can actually use it to their advantage
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Big Earner should let you disguise faster
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>>503016576
newfaf
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>>503016698
Not on this RYB color wheel, goyim
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>>503017317
big earner should have 10 more hp so I don't get 1-shot by spam because the mapmaker was too much of a novice to create more than one flank route
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>>503017764
based retard
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Do you think Valve running this game as a zombie for the past few years is sustainable? It's basically frozen in time since 2018. You can't artificially extend the life by adding workshop bloat forever.

Could an end of life, "forever" update even be possible like past dead Valve multiplayer games? (CS Source, Day of Defeat, TFC, etc.)
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>>503019625
If the bots stay gone, I would like it if the game stayed like this forever. Unfortunately most people probably would not and announcing any kind of finality would mean players trickling off, and the bad thing about some players leaving is that it causes a chain reaction/negative feedback loop of players noticing the game is losing players and jumping ship because of ideas about the game being "dead".
Rather than workshop dumps, I think a more sustainable practice would be adding small, themed content packs at the same tri-yearly rate. There would be less bloat and the additions would be better, rather than just getting half a dozen Halloween maps dumped in your lap you would have time to attach to whatever 1 or 2 maps they theme the update around.
I think this has the potential to be received better by the community if they present it nicely, but maybe some people really do think more is better.
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>>503019625
>Could an end of life, "forever" update even be possible
yes, but they refuse to do it
>those 4-5 lines of server commands to make casual servers bearable
>give minor buffs to overly-nerfed weapons
>give minor nerfs to problem weapons
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>>503019625
We might get something substantial on the 20th anniversary of the Orange Box, but that's just wishful thinking. Just three more years, anons.
>It will also be 10 years since the Jungle Inferno update was released.
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>>503027437
>something substantial
>increased shadow map size and added more commentary nodes
>documentary about the cancelled heavy update
>thanks, and have fun
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Would TF2's timeless artstyle be even more timeless if the devs had the foresight to make it with pixel graphics? Yeah yeah I know the "timeless artsyle" thing is a circlejerk now but this is aGenuine question. My friends and I were salivating over the Miami Element war paint the other day and one of them made an off-hand comment about how interesting it'd be to see a TF2 with pixel graphics and everything else identical and I haven't been able to stop thinking about the idea for the past 48 hours or so. What the fuck would it even look like? Has any game done 8-bit/16-bit etc in 3D in a way that looked really good?
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>>503029495
>TF2 with pixel graphics and everything else identical and I haven't been able to stop thinking about the idea for the past 48 hours or so. What the fuck would it even look like?
What does this even mean? Just TF2 with a really shitty resolution so everything's pixelated oatmeal? Or do you mean like N64/PS1 graphics?

There's also Gang Garrison 2, a 2D sidescroller pixelated TF2 demake
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>>503029495
>Would TF2's timeless artstyle be even more timeless if the devs had the foresight to make it with pixel graphics?
No, pixelshit is a dime a dozen even back then and even if it was done well it wouldn't have been nearly as unique
>What the fuck would it even look like?
Google "Gang Garisson 2" newfag
>Has any game done 8-bit/16-bit etc in 3D in a way that looked really good?
If you mean voxels, 3D Dot Game Heroes did it, and Cube World
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>salivating over the Miami Element war paint
yum yum eat up the workshop workslop goy
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>>503029835
>>503029895
I know about GG2. When I say TF2 with pixelated artstyle I mean that everything else, especially the gameplay, stays the same. Not PS1 graphics or voxel stuff. I don't think I'm articulating it all that well but in my imagination it's like if the visual style of the Miami Element skin got applied to the rest of the game so that pixels were more visible, I guess?
>>503030021
It looks neat man idk what to tell you.
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>>503030380
>I don't think I'm articulating it all that well but in my imagination it's like if the visual style of the Miami Element skin got applied to the rest of the game so that pixels were more visible, I guess?
No, you aren't. You're either saying it's going to be pixel art ala Gang Garrison 2, voxels ala 3D Game Heroes, or just really low resolution so everything looks pixelated. There's no magic 3D pixels, those would be voxels or just low resolution
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>>503029473
Seriously what can they even put in heavy update
It cant be mobility, the slow lumbering bruiser is too core to his design, he is not getting a jetpack or speedy boots or some shit
New weapons? All his melees are gimped by him being the slowest class in the game = irrelevant. All his secondaries are gimped by the need for sandvich being standard gear except when memeing = irrelevant. So maybe new primaries that aren't dogshit (Natasha) or built around a dogshit gimmick (Huo Long Heater)
If I'm Valve I might be interested in increasing his survivability so he isnt completely reliant on a pocket med or having a secondary slot taken up by a mandatory meal item. But that runs the danger of turning him into an even more powerful noobstomper, something like 50% of the playerbase at any given moment is underage retards who run up to heavy and get shot dead
Years ago I thought it would be a good idea to give heavy a way to MITIGATE damage preemptively instead of REACT to damage by eating sandvich, maybe with a helmet item to reduce headshot damage as an example, but now that Ive played the game more Ive come to realize that damage resistances are cancer to play against, whether it's vaxx medic or sniper cuck back shields
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Add lunchbox slot
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>>503031963
Heavy has no alternate playstyles at all, every primary is just a slightly different minigun. Despite him being the Heavy Weapon(s) Guy he has no other options. I desperately want something like a LMG that doesn't need to be revved up or something like an AA cannon like they gave him in TF2C. Or give him some other weapon that makes using a shotgun more viable so "fat scout" is more than just a meme
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Riot Shield
Primary Slot
Reduces damage taken from the direction the player is facing by X percent
Stays equipped when using other weapons(like demoman's shields) so you can run around with a shotgun and LARP as an armored riot cop
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>>503032402
Fund it
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>>503032256
I think the issue is a lot of other stereotypical heavy weapons are already taken by other classes. Just think, off the top of your head, what the basic bitch Hollywood summer blockbuster movie's top "heavy weapons" are.
>Grenade launcher
>Rocket launcher
>Miniguns
I guess you could give Heavy some sort of autocannon? But that doesn't change his playstyle at all either, he's still walking around lugging a direct-fire weapon that (probably) slows him down to fire/rev up. It just fires less rapidly for more damage per bullet.
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>>503029495
>>503030380
wtf are you talking about? closest thing i can think of is ace of spades
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>>503032880
Nobody has an LMG and I would picture it at least giving him an option for more mobility since it wouldn't need to be revved up and therefore wouldn't slow him down. Penalty would be less damage and a tighter cone. The AA cannon from TF2C also gives him a unique flak cannon with exploding bullets that allows him to counter jumping classes. Both would be interesting to have
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>>503033504
>tighter cone
>penalty
bait or retarded?
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>>503032402
Seems like it would be OP depending on how big the shield hitbox is and what the damage reduction numbers are

Btw is it even possible to code in shit like directional hitbox-based damage blocking/reduction using this ancient engine? Can the game even tell which direction a sniper's shot comes from instead of simply whether it hits or not?
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>>503033589
Well it's not a true penalty per se but the default minigun having a wide spread allows you to hit multiple targets at once. That's by design and works well against large groups. I'm talking talking so tight you could only hit one target a time, more than the Tomislav. I guess the better word would've been trade off but it was easier to just write "and"
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>>503031963
>Seriously what can they even put in heavy update
unfuck a bunch of his weapons
>steak no longer gives you a hidden dmg vulnerability when active
>bear claws no longer make you take 30% more damage
I don't know what moron thinks a heavy that's locked to melee and that's only as fast as a base demoman would be OP, but someone kick him in the nuts. there's no reason why these two weapons which were designed to be used together are so dogshit terrible when paired. you effectively have 150hp and are a giant target. it's like they thought, "hey demoknight starts with 150hp and is locked to melee, make the bear claws and steak exactly like that", forgetting the fact that demoknight has the massive potential to snowball, and also has a shield for added resistances and mobility
>eviction notice
it's just GRU but toned down, what's the point. less hp drain, less dmg, less speed. the speed on hit is a weird dumb mechanic to pair with a weapon that's already draining your hp that you'd never pair in combat. revert it to its original state where it's just less dmg with a faster hitrate, the speed boost, and maybe give it bleed for a gimmicky hit and run playstyle
>huo long
make the fire AoE a cylinder instead of a flat plane so spies can't jump over it, and make it more transparent so you can look down off a ledge and not be blinded by it. maybe make the doubled ammo cost only happen while firing instead of just revved

as for new weapons, give him an LMG that doesn't slow him down when firing but maybe still needs to spin up. something like a cartoon-y lewis gun with holes bored in the heatshield. have the magazine on top spin as a visual indicator when it's ready to fire like how the minigun barrels spin up. have the dps be somewhere between the tomislav and sniper's smg. give it slower holster and draw speed since the heavy isn't carrying it underslung. now you can kinda have the fatscout playstyle but also have a lunchbox item
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>>503034198
>Btw is it even possible to code in shit like directional hitbox-based damage blocking/reduction using this ancient engine?
mvm medic shield, but heavy shouldn't have a riot shield full stop. we don't need reinhardt or tanks, this isn't overwatch
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Wtf is a reinhardt
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>>503035775
>TF2 already has Medic with a directional shield in MvM
>But if Heavy gets something merely similar it's muh Overwatch
?
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>>503036572
one is for PvE content where balance not only doesn't matter, but is also drastically different
one would be for PvP where it does
don't be an obstinate retard
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>>503036706
So the actual issue isn't passing similarity to another vidya but balance concerns, because you decided it would be OP already?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYBZrRCCrXE
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>>503036914
i used to want to make a ness bat smash compilation to this
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>>503036792
no because everyone with more than two braincells to rub together for warmth determined for years and years and years that it would be either be OP, not fun to use or fight against, or poorly balanced. go watch any of a dozen video essays explaining why riot shields in games are nightmares to balance and not fun to engage with. it's like the inverse of the problems with sniper
>can't see sniper
>die
vs
>can plainly see the heavy with shield
>can't kill him
you want to be a tanky lil faggot with heavy, use the FoS, there's your riot shield
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>>503038345
>Heh, unlike you simpletons I've already watched 900 hours of Heavy Riot Shield videos by esteemed TF2bers and participated in Heavy Riot Shield discourse for years
Yeah alright. Hypothetically if he got a riot shield and it was too strong and you couldn't kill him why can't you just lower the damage reduction a bit until it's reasonable? And why are you so buttmad over this?
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>>503038838
nobody's mad. this idea has been floated by noobs for a decade and it's tiresome every time because they never think about the implications of it beyond
>what if big man have shield
it's a bad idea, it's never being added, and it's not worth discussing why for the Nth time. the resources are out there, go educate yourself
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>>502893769
You need help freak
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But enough about you.
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SSSniper main lashing out preemptively kek
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snipercord woke up
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>>503038838
ledditor whose first point of contention was muh overwatch, go figure
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it's the only thing you people understand and it demonstrates the point
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fuck this jump is hard to make, i've only done it like 8 times in the past 30 minutes of trying
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>>503038345
>"nyyooooo shut up shut up dont discuss this ive already made my mind up so you better not talk about it"
holy nigger
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>Heavy gets a helmet that blocks all headshots
There, I have fixed heavy
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>>503040120
talk about it if you want but nobody will be discussing it with you because it's been done to death and the answer is obvious
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>>503035775
>>503034198
>>503032402
Why are you having such a long argument about such bullshit?
Stupid ideas like this get made every fuckign day here and this one gets a fucking thesis about it
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>>503040620
The actual long posts were about a heavy update in general though
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>>503040721
Just watch a big joey video or something
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>>503039912
I finally got it bros. Did it 10 times in a row without fucking up. On to more challenging jump maps.
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I actually like the shield idea in theory
>Heavy needs at least one(1) alternate playstyle that isn't slowing himself down to shoot a high DPS primary
>Heavy melee weapons fall flat because he's so slow he can't close distances
>But giving Heavy a way to close distances rapidly would fuck his identity as an immobile juggernaut
He needs survivability to get close and enable using his secondary or god forbid his melee
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>>503041192
I think the issue is a hypothetical riot shield would need to be strong enough to be worth trading away his minigun, and if it's that powerful then it could very well edge into overpowered territory.
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I dont get why it's so important that a Heavy Update[TM] not give him mobility options. Pyro was never intended to be able to fly either but he got a jetpack during JI
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>>503040494
>>503040620
>>503040951
>How DARE you talk about TF2 on the TF2 general instead of spamming the same tf2uber namedrop circlejerks, why don't you just go watch a tf2be-
.....Hold on a second....
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>>503041692
How come you mispellt tf2ber twice
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>>503041497
pyro was already one of the faster classes in the game and doesnt have "big fat fuck" as the basis of his visual design
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>>503041842
There's nothing wrong with spelling it TF2tuber.
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The correct terminology is TEAM FORTRESS 2 YouTuber
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it's like you people keep forgetting the FoS exist because you don't play the game
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>>503042194
Are you ESL?
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>>503042194
>FoS exists
>Doesnt change anything about heavy's playstyle, just lets you cross sniper sightlines situationally
>People talk about a shield replacing primary so a hypothetical heavy update can benefit from more options in secondary and tertiary that change up his playstyle
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Imagine being so buckbroken that when /tf2g/ talks about tf2 for once all you can do is bitch and whine and piss yourself on the sidelines, presenting your crusty asshole to beg for (you)s. what are the odds its the demofloyd vs fempyro shitstirrer?
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>>503035643
Even if you unfuck his edibles they'll still all get outshone by the reliability of sandvich
Even if you unfuck his melees they'll still be worthless because he can't chase anyone
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No we don't have that in common pablo
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FoS let you do the same thing the shield would in practice, and they aren't considered a different playstyle
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>>503042919
>what are the odds its the demofloyd vs fempyro shitstirrer?
considering he posted 259 in the middle of it, very likely
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>>503043284
>FoS let you do the same thing the shield would in practice, and they aren't considered a different playstyle
FOS needs to be held to be active meaning while benefitting from the FOS damage reduce you can't do anything else, I'm fairly certain the purpose of the shield idea is it's like demo's shield without the charge ability, it stays active so a heavy can make better use of his secondary or just punch a bitch to death
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>>503043617
>FOS needs to be held to be active meaning while benefitting from the FOS damage reduce you can't do anything else, I'm fairly certain the purpose of the shield idea is it's like demo's shield without the charge ability, it stays active so a heavy can make better use of his secondary or just punch a bitch to death
Yeah that's the idea, if you've ever played Risk of Rain it's Enforcer
It would give you a reason to actually use shotguns
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>>503043617
>it stays active so a heavy can make better use of his secondary
since we're all dreaming, it would enable more variety of secondaries to get added in a heavy update too in 2027
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>>503043716
NTA but I think there's plenty enough reason to use shotgun already. Not even for the retarded Uncle Dane memes, I just like it.
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>>503043228
But that's not true, because they each have their niche. I barely see anyone use the sandvich anymore because the banana outclasses it. It's 200hp healed vs 300, but it regens faster. Realistically you should be getting away with around 100hp or so, so the extra hp the sandvich heals is getting wasted. The only thing the sandvich has over it is healing your medic a little more, but if he's competent he only needs the small hp the banana provides to put out afterburn or something. I guess you could also argue that you can convert small hp kits into medium ones, but nobody plays it that way, or that you can tank damage with the sandvich while healing that the banana won't let you, but that's just bad positioning on your part. Being able to heal 2/3 of your hp 3x faster than the sandvich is an obvious upgrade.

The chocolate bar has a niche use in that it lets you survive the 3 pipes it would take for a demo to kill you, or two quickscopes, or a fully charged headshot while spun up with the brass beast I think? Definitely useful on payload.

Steak is weird in that you can use it with the firsts of steel to basically have GRU that don't drain your hp, but you can't put them away on demand. The dmg vulnerability + resistance kinda cancel each other out to where you're back to having effectively 300hp.

All that being said, you still primarily see banana and sandvich diehards.
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Sorry chuddy the adults are talking, you can go back to whichever your regularly scheduled circlejerks are later
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>>503044283
there is no strange variant for banana so i eat sandwiches instead :)
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>>503044078
Agreed. Making FoS heavies that can now shoot is just gonna be annoying, and if the shield stacks with the dmg resistance of the FoS then that's even worse. There's a reason it's agreed upon to be a bad idea
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>>503044283
I'm still upset Dalokohs' max HP increase doesn't interact with Medic's overheal cap at all. God forbid a Sniper can't instakill from ten kilometers away.
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>>503043228
>Even if you unfuck his melees they'll still be worthless because he can't chase anyone
good thing they're all utility focused then instead of combat focused. the bear claws are such a tragedy, I only run them because they can let me 1-shot demoknights with random crits
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>>503044463
I mean I'm not against a shield, if anything it's trivially easy to prevent something as simple as directional damage resistance from becoming overtuned. All you'd need to do is dick around with the numbers. As long as he doesn't get some gay shield stance ability, he'll still be a fat immobile retard who also now only has a shotgun.
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>>503044565
Combine it with the fos. Choco plus fos lets you survive a fully charged machina headshot
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>>503044832
If it's so trivially easy, then why has nobody gotten it right?
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>>503044964
Because there's no shield for heavy?
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>>503042919
The most vulnerable anyone can be in the nu-internet is to express genuine interest in something, even in spaces supposedly for those interested in things. The self-depreciating humor of yesteryear has come home to roost in the form of terminal irony poisoning corrupting every interaction.
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>>503044832
you can kind of estimate the numbers already, by taking lessons from wrangler
for example
>shield gives 50% damage reduction from the front = heavy has 450 effective hp from the front AKA a full overheal AKA still dies to a headshot
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>>503044840
what if they just want to get close to 500
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>>503039259
I'm not that guy in your pic but I likely bought it off of him or the guy he sold it to?
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>>503044565
You should know by now that class only exists to bait noobs who watched Meet The Medic into providing a food source for spy and sniper mains
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Why is it every time I get totally and ununrapeably destroyed in this game it's aways a 9000 hours tranny?
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>>503045001
You know what I mean :/
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why would you admit to getting dominated by a xXxtransgirlgamerxXx on tf2g
are you gay or something
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>>503045415
then call yourself 499
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>>503041041
I like your consistency
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i’ll let you add a riot shield for heavy if you can name one game where riot shields are fun
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>>503049413
Risk of Rain
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>>503049413
Splatoon when the lag doesn't stop them from working
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>>503049553
>>503049636
how do the shields work there, like their stats
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>>503049716
In Risk of Rain it blocks all damage from the side you hold it on, but you're totally vulnerable from all other angles (including above) and you attack faster with your shotgun while it's up
I wouldn't expect it to make Heavy totally invulnerable though that would be dumb, but the counterplay of "attack from the other angles" would be the same
I assume the guy who mentioned Splatoon was talking about the Brellas which are similar in concept by blocking damage from the angle you hold them but they also take 50% of the damage dealt to it and easily break when enough damage is dealt (some specials punch through the shield entirely)
Combine the two and you could have a shield that breaks easily when enough damage is taken, lets Heavy fire his shotgun faster (or something), but is vulnerable from all other angles
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>>503049716
In Splatoon there are four types, although I haven't played since they added the fourth. https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Brella
Characters have 100hp, and while the types listed have different HP values, different weapons have different damage multipliers against them. As a gun, they're shotguns with damage output and attack intervals proportional to how "heavy" they are. On 3 of them, the shield is launched after a short delay after deploying it, and moves forward at a slow pace. You can position inside the shield's hitbox to avoid incoming damage, at great risk of dying to a well placed bomb, which detonates immediately on impact with the shield, depending on how the hitboxes line up and the awful peer-to-peer netcode.
tl;dr
Splat is the equivilent of TF2's stock and is all round with medium damage output and durability.
Tenta is like the brass beast. It can one shot at a sweet spot distance and is slow to both fire and deploy the shield which has very high HP.
Undercover fires low damage shots at a fast rate and a low shield durability. Unlike the others, it fires while the shield is deployed but cannot launch its shield.
Recycled is like Splat, except it trades durability for damage output, accuracy and faster regeneration.

I don't think riot shields fit into TF2. I just wanted to share that I think they're well designed in that game.
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So...you guys think we're getting the Heavy Update this Smissmass? That would be great...
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>>503052065
Sure anon, we'll be getting a... Heavy (amount of seasonal slop) update
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>>503052130
oh...that's not so great
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>>502836513
Man. I really wanted to give newgen zoomers a chance, but every time I see this I just get the urge to disagree with anything they say
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>>503053590
Your urge is entirely warranted.
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>>503043316
>>503042919
>shitposters are causing every other shitstorm in between their posts
Or maybe more than 4 people post here.
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>>503060350
I would agree with you if it weren't exactly in his style, surrounded by a flurry of instigating shitposts fore and aft, and fit the timezone
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>>503049413
Vermintide, shield melee isnt meta but it makes you feel like a fucking rock
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Enough about le shield
What new slop cosmetics will Valve roll out for the 20th anniversary event case?
(the keys will cost $8.99 from MannCo btw)
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>>503049553
>>503062752
>pve
>>503063052
all class crowbar (except for spy and engi)
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>>503063052
the economy is fucked so 8.99 in 2027 is gonna be equal to 1 dollar today kek
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>>503063052
A riot shield, not as a weapon but as an all classes cosmetic.
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The only thing we're getting for 2027 is an end-of-support and server shutdown announcement. Gabe "Gabe 'em" Newell will livestream himself personally pouring acid on the server racks.
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Would TF2 in full-dive virtual reality via cerebral implant and direct brain interface be fun?
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>>503063620
Only if snipers had a 1% chance of activating killswitch that electrocutes and fries their brains IRL each time they took a shot
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>>503063823
Jokes on you, I wanna die.
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OMG LE HECKIN UTILITY ITEM THAT ISNT A WEAPON TAHTS SO KEWLLLL1!!!!
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le epic trollface
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>>502981426
Sorry we only serve demofloyd gifs on Thursdays

>>503065515
Good post
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>>503063506
Atleast will get a good 2 decades rather than other games that shut down 8-12 years or god forbid sooner like a few i know that werent even bad games
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>>503065904
This game is supposed to last until 2050 which is around when I pass the average American life expectancy
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It's been 3 days already huh? Time to put the monkey back in the box
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Back to our regularly-scheduled programming
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>>503065881
>spoiler
I already know what happened to Demoman on May 25th 2010 on ctf_minnesota
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>every weapon in TF2 is a sidegrade, or at least evenly balanced
>Third Degree is a literal flat, direct upgrade to the Fire Axe
>Everyone pans it as dogshit, but the Fire Axe gets a pass
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>>503066880
it's stock, stock weapons are exempt
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>>503066170
The thread peaked at le326 deal with it chud
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>>503066880
people are more forgiving when it comes to melee because stock isn't great in the first place
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>>503068025
nuh uh it peaked at Verification not required.
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Consume the Fent (commonly abbreviated as CTF) is a game mode which features both RED and BLU teams with their own Unintelligence briefcase (known as the Fent). The goal for both teams is to consume their enemy's fentelligence continuously until they have reached the game's counterfeit limit (default limit is 19) whilst preventing their enemy from achieving the same. If no team completes the counterfeit limit before time runs out, the match enter Sudden Breath mode (unless either Fentelligence has been taken and is still in play, in which case Overdose occurs until both teams' Fentelligence are secured again).
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>>503070674
Do you get a speed boost while carrying the fent?
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>>503070284
>>503070421
>>503070674
creatively bankrupt shitpost spammer can't even post correctly
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>>503070814
To consume the enemy team's fent, damage must be dealt by the carrier of the Unintelligence briefcase, similar to a Soldier banner.
The consuming team gains a point upon full consumption of the fent.

Effects on the carrier are as follows:
Bleeds 6 hp / tick
Gains speed boost that increases the longer it is carried
Immune to all crits, however melee hits inflicted on the carrier will mark the player for death.

Dropping the fentanyl causes instant death.
Healing the carrier drains the fent-o-meter
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oh no! anyways.
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Why did Olivia Mann fail so hard in popularity?
Every detail surrounding her indicated she would have been a hit, and yet, nothing.
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>>503072339
Just do the needful for 'low effort post' and ignore
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>>503072827
>Every detail surrounding her indicated she would have been a hit
for you
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>>503072827
>comic only character
For the same reason Hale's not-GF isn't popular
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>>503072583
>>503043284
so >>503042919 was right, the bitch who was hopping mad that /tf2g/ spent some time to talk about the game is the chatbot-tier circlejerker
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The schizo woke up lmao

>>503072827
Shes 6 you pedophile
Burn in hell
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>>503073471
>high concurrent playerbase
>huge secondary watchbase
>thriving and experienced 3D animation scene, and had a faithful 3D rig + model made almost immediately after release
>solid chunk of the playerbase are open weebs / pedophiles on top
>released around the peak of the bratty kid shit / mesugaki blowing up on twitter, is is practically the only western example
was ignoring the obvious part of your plan?
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>>503073448
Announcing a report nigga
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New "worthless map list" just dropped
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>>503065761
i look like both of these
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>>503073958
Wow, shocker
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Replied to himself again award
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>>503076818
is that a fucking a afucki gn A FUCKING MP4??? We only serve webm posters here sir
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>>503077482
>We only serve webm posters here sir
Dass raycis, whyteboi! Ay wanna see yo muhfuggin boss, lemme tawk to yo managuh
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>>503077482
Get on with the times grandpa
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>>503077568
lemme tawk tuah
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why does this slav so desperately pretend to be a negroid from the west coast
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steam friends
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>>503079413
Steam friends poster my beloved
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>arrow a scout, he runs away and accidentally craters
>jump down and schadenfreude
>calls me a niggerfaggot and focuses me for the next three matches
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>>503079089
Seethe unprompted about slavchads award
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>>503074491
Now let's count how many of these were made by ICS
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"Never bring a hawk tuah to a battlefield, war is not a game."
"Less talk tuah, more fight."



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