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>VV has a demo now: https://youtu.be/u4Br8Pt11f0

>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon

>SMTVV is nominated in the best soundtrack category in the golden joystick awards(voting closed)
https://www.gamesradar.com/goldenjoystickawards/

>New Raidou project leaks on steamDB(reveal when?)
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1834262338209251537

>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>Vengeance OST scans
https://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ

>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game

>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home

>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
https://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/

>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services

>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)
https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post

>Information about the schizo so people are aware to not interact with them in any shape or form: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19l6oTnl9qU9mMLXh_Fuo60MUjzUVf1ln/view

>How to filter namefags with 4chanX: /^(?!Anonymous$)/

>Ignore the Aliceschizo who is most likely the same person

Last thread: >>502531036
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I love Lilim.
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First for ichiro Dazai, best Law bro.
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I love Raidou and Raido and I want Raido to show up in Raido 3... it's just a matter of giving him scars textures (please notice me Atlus glowies).
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Tch, youngsters and their demon amie.
Back in my day if you if you didn't have enough INT demons walked all over you in negotiation, and you couldn't recruit dark demons at all! Then, when you WERE negotiating they'd drain you dry and ask for like 7 fucking things. They could ask you to put down your gun, which if you accept ACTUALLY unequips it. THEN, maintaining demons in your party required a consumable resource, and if you were one of the two alignment extremes a third of the roster would refuse to let you use them PERIOD.
And we LIKED it!
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Alicefag revealing his rape killed /smtg/
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I love Raidou so much!! I will never ever stop hoping for remasters and a new game!
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>>502834431
Need a game that's like this and have "demon amie".
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>>502834431
Um what about when you accepted to be molested sexually by them or when they kicked you in the balls after you unequipped your gun?
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Dancing furiously.
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>>502834431
I do hate how the demons are slowly being defanged, demon haunt sucks ass.
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>>502834607
CUTE Raidou... cute!!!!!
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heres alice the hot
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>>502834603
calm down, raidounigger
>>502835535
the most neutral demeterfag
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The light change hee. Hee hold hee light to become Master Man.
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>>502835748
>>502834607
>>502834307
>>502833745
post hidden
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>Dark rooms
:)
>No Comp Zones
:)
>Hybrid no comp zone dark rooms
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Precious, cute, lovely.
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Shut the fuck up Hyss-ho
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>>502837120
If... pulls both of this shit at once it was annoying af and no comp feels irrelevant when you have a strong team
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Ronde
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>>502837268
>>502837298
Women moment
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>>502830540
>I have posted several where they ask a question and then follow as if he said yes/no
How? No one would think this. In fact there is demon dialog where he does reply and ask questions and the conversation makes that pretty clear. Otherwise he's saying nothing. Demons even say he doesn't speak, most conversations are completely one-sided unless they say otherwise. And every time that's the case, it looks like pic related.
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>>502834227
>t. Abdiel
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>>502834607
always good to see you!
have a nice day
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They're gonna do this in SMT6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumari_(goddess)
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Huak tuah spit on that Raidou!
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>>502833745
>Ignore the Aliceschizo who is most likely the same person
i am mostly like not that retard and don't even relate me to that attention whore, raidoudiscordwhores
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>>502842489
>spit on Raidou
l-lewd...
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I don't know if I should feel proud or embarrassed that Aliceschizo is doing my job for me.
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>>502844134
>>502844313
hello retard, why people think i am you?
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>>502844936
finna COOM
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>>502845394
>>502844936
lame, alice cunny was better
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>>502843487
>>502842489
>>502841498
kill yourself raidounewmaggot spammer
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I don't think it's funny to make jokes about someone being raped or molested at a young age. That's really uncool, and you should consider AliceSchizo's feelings, guys.
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i rather get raped by a futa loligirl like alice, alice can do whatever she wants with my ass if you ask me also projecting faggot above me
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>>502847949
>accusing others of projecting while projecting in the very same post
very impressive
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Gimme more Eridanus
Gimme more Domain of Envy
Gimme more Tower of Kagutsuchi
Gimme more Chinatown
Gimme less open world garbage
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>>502848116
did i project did i even stutter? complete misunderstanding the use of projection, killl yourself already flamewar raidounigger and hypocritical fucking discord tranny
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hyss ho is so weird
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>while projecting in the very same post
holy esl, very impressive indeed, i thought english people knew what a projection even mentions i guess even english people can be esl sometime heh also keep yapping about that epersonality. discord tranny
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>>502848265
>>502848889
looks like I struck a nerve since you replied twice kek
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nice 1440p monitor, how much did it cost?
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>>502849080
i guess you should stop talking to me you lonely gayfaggot im busy at playing games
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SMTVVEX will save smtg
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>>502849186
don't let me hold you up sweetie
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>>502847617
You're asking too much from the vietnamese basket weaving forum.
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>>502849160
who??
>>502849328
>sweetie
literal tourist confirmed and from discord
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>>502849467
im having fun, leave me alone. i think everyone here is a real person
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>>502849467
Who i am and now, not raped by the way, but a fucked alice
>>502849590
i think you should stop trying to pick on me i am way above you league, kid
>>502848889
>projection even mentions
sometimes i can be very esl
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muh shuwuu
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Question: does the Demon Haunt have unique dialogue for *every* demon or does it have the usual personalities split between everyone?
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>>502849909
alice/muu my little onahohles
ur opinion?
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>>502850008
Thats dope dude, thats pretty cool man.
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>>502849762
a lol but lol at what cost?
>>502850145
thx
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>>502849951
Mix of both.
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>when I see Anthony's demons
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please considered of alices hires tummy. thanks
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alice and muu shuwuu used to be my 2 favorite demons but now i hate them
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Thinking of playing the devil children games that are in english on my train rides. What should I know going into them? I remember trying the GBA one and I found the graphics obnoxious to look at.
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>>502849160
You can get cheap 1440p monitors with decent refresh rates nowadays unless you want OLED but they are IMO not worth the risk of burn-in.
4k screens are still too expensive however.
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>>502834431
>and you couldn't recruit dark demons at all!
The slime in area 1 who gives you the foul talisman jokes about this, he says we fouls have historically been uncooperative in regards to conversation but we've been trying our best lately to be nicer
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>>502847617
I get it, but at the same time this kid used to do the same shit with others, mostly girls, so I rather not. Besides, it seems that he doesn't mind, as shown in this post >>502847949.
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>Reddit demon
>Doing sweepstakes when you can easily get Vengeance for $20 nowadays
Retarded company
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>>502852147
please stop inserting your fiction into us, great imagination comes great consequences
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This is not Smt.
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>>502852336
>not available in my region
:(
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>>502852336
They are really promoting the shit out if smtvv all of a sudden aren't they?
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>>502852147
>>502847617
this is a bait attempt at riling up the situation against and make the threads miserable againt :)
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>>502851345
literally me
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>I get it, but at the same time this kid used to do the same shit with others, mostly girls, so I rather not
so you're creating headcanons about me now but i am guy of many identities
>doesn't mind
it's a shitty joke
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>>502852780
DLC soon
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>>502852780
the nintendo direcet is getting announced tomorrow so i honestly expect something on thursday for VV DLC/raidou rerelaese.
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>>502853420
>the nintendo direcet is getting announced tomorrow
citation needed
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>>502853478
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I love old art like this, still looks great.
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Rip Akira Toryirama
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>Evil Shine/Gleam
>High King
>Divine Light
>Cocytus Pain
>Root of Evil
>Kingly One
>Morning Star
>Falling Star
>Cold Dark Matter
>Hot Dark Matter
>Contempt of God
>Holy Crucifixion
>World's End
>Megidoladyne
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>>502855272
A bit late there buddy
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Decided to give the VV randomizer a try with pretty much all settings turned on.
>Konohana Sakuya theme for the Daemon fight
>Spyscope dropped after said fight
>very first tutorial chest drops fucking Shiva's essence
>tutorial Miman reward is Agrat's essence
>tutorial Pixie replaced with Pyro Jack
>Slimes are picrel
What a ride this is gonna be.
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Rip Kentaro Miura
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>>502855272
>>502856920
The fact that Miyazaki outlived them is pure comedy.
Shin Megami Tensei.
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>>502858531
Are there any Miyazaki references in SMT?
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the calendar system sucks ass how do people like this shit
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>>502856194
>Glasya-Labolas replaced by fucking Dagda
>didn't enable the option for an Uber Yuzuru to help with this fight
Welp this is what I signed up for. Time to use that Shiva essence already.
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Nocturne destroys the light of creation
DDS1 and 2 are about bringing the light of creation back
SMTV follows the new creation system
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>>502833745
How tight is she bros....
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>>502858531
I can understand Miura dying due to his declining health, but did Toriyama seriously did not go to the hospital when he was in extreme amounts of pain from falling down the stairs? He could have easily lived if he told his wife or grown-up children about the pain he's suffering from.
>>502859979
People like time management. No different from what happens in the DeSu games.
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>>502861659
The desu games suck.
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>>502861720
>gay retard opinion
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>>502861545
not as tight as alice since she's an expired egg for a very long time
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>>502862079
>>502861770
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>>502862162
>mad redirection
cooope!
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>>502861659
>Miura
and above all he's a lolichad
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>>502834431
I hope Atlus improve Demon Amie for the next game.
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>>502834206
Me too anon. Me too.
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>>502863347
My wife Lilim is the best!
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>>502863347
Source, please.
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>>502863890
boku no pico
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>>502862079
good gif
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>>502861659
people a certain age constantly suppress the feeling of pain, either cause they're constantly in some form of pain and cannot distinguish the cause or because it's a learned behavior
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>>502865414
>replying to your own post half an hour later
pure mental illness
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>>502865572
: )
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>>502865736
>replying positively to alicefag
pure mental illness
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I hope we get a Marduk battle.
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>>502841498
Always wonderful to see you too, Hazama-Anon!! Thank you for making this place a little brighter!
>>502867734
I shouldn't love these two together but I really do, lmao.
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>>502869038
isn't his appeal pretty much "I can fix him" type? that's the ultimate "I can fix him" pairing
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Are V fags seriously that pissed that their game didn't nominated for anything? P3R and XC3 fags didn't get any nominations but you didn't see them go on long tirades about how it's not fair that their favorite game was basically ignored for bigger titles.
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Shut the fuck up Avery.
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>>502869038
you make this place brighter too! i always try to show my appreciation towards you and post a raidou for you for that reason.

> shouldn't love these two together but I really do, lmao
i think aneekinsan's art helps. i don't think i ever would've liked them together either but the pairing grows on me through these pictures.
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>>502870267
Idk why they care so much about awards when it doesn't affect the game in any shape or form
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>>502870267
Please understand, SMT V fags legitimately believe that having more music tracks means it's automatically worthy of nomination.
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>>502869635
pretty much.
and it helps that canonically he can actually be fixed. sorta...

but i like him for his design. he is /fa/ as fuck.
i like his chuuni personality.
i like the small details surrounding him despite his game having very little dialogue.
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>>502870267
do rereleases even qualify for awards?
not that it really matters because the game awards are just one big gay sucking off contest that happens in between breaks of new video game ads
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Booru status?
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i love children
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>>502863890
Sorry, had to make my way to home to upload the rest. It's a small collection of commissions I had done of Lilim a couple of years ago.
https://catbox.moe/c/xe5yfu
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>>502873386
We know, Larrue.
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Times you put all your exp into luck
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>>502875441
epic tell me how it goes
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aaaaaand im done, maybe this general will be worthy in a year or so
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>>502876259
See you tomorrow
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>>502871468
not many details but he's meticulously engineered to trigger "I can fix him" thoughts
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>>502873725
Amazing, you have good taste. Thanks for sharing.
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why did SMT V replace the iconic sexy BDSM angel with this male fag thing wearing a mask
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>>502870267
those people are also pissed. so are other fandoms, not this nomination in particular but how samey the nominations are in general is the issue here
also it deserved a nomination. VV alone has more added music than entire soundtracks for new games
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>>502877282
>more == good
Lmao, this anon was right >>502870948
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>>502877849
that's not the point I made, but if you want to suck up to game awards suit yourself
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>>502875665
NTA but what does luck do anyway I barely put any in it
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>>502878087
From what I know it helps with negotiations, item drops from battles, traps and Destiny Land's bullshit. If there is more, anons let me know.
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>>502877998
He's not even sucking up to the awards, he is just so blinded by his hate boner for VV that he cannot concede anything good about the game.
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>>502878657
like if you seriously engage with the conversation, not even just in twitter but in places like /v/, you would know that's an issue a verity of fandoms have. nothing's more cucked that sucking up to game journos and game awards to prove your retarded point
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If that smtxfe crossover was an actual crossover how do you think it would have shaped todays smt and fire emblem fandoms differently? For example would we have did nothing wrong edelfag-types perpetually defending a psychopath because hot?
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SMTVVEX will be fun
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>>502878995
Yes but we already have those.
We would also have more waifufags for the usual tropey FE girls like the cute mage or the pegasus knight.
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>>502878995
this is probably an unpopular opinion but mainline at its core it's still the same thing it was 30 years ago, that cannot be said of FE
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Thor-sama daisuki
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>>502877141
>male fag thing
made me laugh, thanks anon
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>>502877141
Yeah, it hould have had Lalah angel from SMT1 instead
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>>502877141
Because it's more accurate to what angels actually look like, retard.
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>>502880147
>tree of life in the game
>same one that Lalah oversees
>she's not in the game
Criminal.
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>>502881045
I don't care about 100% accuracy in my anime occult series featuring Dante
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SMTVVEX will kill aliceschizo, hyss ho, ringoschizo
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>>502882168
wow one whole schizo, amazing
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I just want an artbook
please atlus just release a fucking art and setting book
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>>502882682
No.
You just want more shipping bait for you to be at your dick to V-kun/Aogami
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>>502882851
Not him but I want to see concept art for the other characters too
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>>502882851
I want to see what the original draft was like and what went into designing end game stuff
do I want V kun's ass on the cover too? yes, but my motives are multifaceted
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it was only after I started listening to 90's techno j pop that I realized how much of P2's soundtrack is so deeply influenced by it
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>>502882682
You will get a book full of the Jounin gang and Yoko having comfy slices of life and a fleeting moment of humanity and friendship
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>>502883567
do that for a manga I want to hear Doi and co yap a whole book about the game, just like IV's artbook
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I bought IV's artbook for naked flynn
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>>502883992
>put naked flynn on the cover
>make people buy a whole book of you yapping about how they give you too much work
sasuga Doi sama
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>>502882168
Meds
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Why no one calls him Kei
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>>502878974
>>502878657
Dumb anons.
>>502882158
Smart anon.
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>>502884773
I prefer to call him faggot
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>>502883101
>I want to see what the original draft was like
This but for IV
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>>502885158
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>>502884773
More like gei hehehehehehhhehehehehhehehehheheehehh
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>>502885352
they talk about some of the stuff Kaneko wanted for the setting, but the excerpts of the draft we currently have come from that megaten maniax anniversary book. the existence of a black cleo concept was also something they showed the first time in the 10th anniversary convention. they don't show all of their material at once, but they do show some stuff
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>https://twitter.com/CosmizP/status/1858967218232717432
It's fucking over for SMT VVEX. 2025 already has it's own JRPG GotY.
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https://youtu.be/qIPCzZK-W_0?si=bx0eH7nGBpsK3qiU
Some guy is making a nocturne hardtype esque mod for HD that includes skill potential and bonus content like extra fights and a YHVH super boss. Looks like it's just an unfinished demo right now but the YHVH fight is implemented as a proof of concept (he just oneshots you after his spiel)
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>>502885907
>mod for HD that includes skill potential
People really will go out fo their way to make games worse
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>>502886573
skill potential is... le bad
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I wanna in Lilim
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If the world holds my live back, I will end it!
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>>502877141
because it's more appropriate for battle scenes-
>same game introduces abdiel who leads an army while wearing a leotard showing off her asscheeks
who fucking knows.
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>>502887571
She's de best. Simple and effective design, sexy as fuck.
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>>502887984
She's just cute and fun and I bet she'd like to ride motorcycles and shoot guns and stuff
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>>502877141
BDSM design sucks, looks like a chaos demon more than anything. I guess it fits in nocturne since angels in that game are separate from law, but in IV or SJ it's just offputting.
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>>502888041
I like to imagine her having Nagatoro's personality, would be so cute.
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>>502850995
is that the Korean mod? is there still a link for that?
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>>502887984
Who even chose Principality over Lilim fakest choice in the game
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>>502866927
This guy is great in every game he's in but I never use him because his design is so weird.
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>>502885907
This mod was really promising at first by include things that would made sense if it was included like having doppelganger in the demon roster. It's a shame that it's ruined now by including doimons and fucking skill potential.
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Why did they never show Sakahagi killing any girl manikins?
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Nick fuentes demon
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Who the fuck is crying over skill potential lmao
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>>502889450
the argument is that it leads to people going for the same min max build on every demon, but the way nocturne does it is assigning some sort of probability in random selection, so in a way nocturne already had its own archaic skill potential even then.
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>>502888772
Those Lilim were really convincing, I'm sure they would get along well with lonely virgin men. And if they caused any trouble, that's Betel's problem, they should work harder.
Either way sending them to Tokyo was a good choice.
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>>502890447
It's about execution, nocturne only blocks certain physical skill from being inherited based on their properties but magic spells and passive skills can be learned by any demon, this means you can't slap deathbound on everyone and makes you look for other options. Skill potential bottlenecks every demon into one trick ponies.
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>>502891735
they can't be learned with the same probability, so the bottle neck only happens at fusion.
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>>502888772
I get a lot of kicks out of slaughtering cute female demons, I don't really care for Principality
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Rip meguro
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Fuck....this is harder than the Demi-Fiend fight in V....
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>>502894948
is it good? i never played a M&L game
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>>502894948
>>502895163
Stop replying to yourself.
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>>502895226
youre driving me fucking crazy
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>>502895395
We all know how to use 4chanx.
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>>502895474
4chanxt*
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Fucking retard
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Chiaki turned me into a MAP
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>>502898107
chill out man
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqE3gIv844U
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>>502894948
Gobblick wasn't too bad for me, though it was definitely the point where I had to start using a few healing items in battle. The next lighthouse boss really messed me up, though.
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>people are still playing VV
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I finally went through the trouble of replaying the game to get a chaos end save. And Goko's dialog about potential is even more damning in regards to Yoko being the snake in the garden. This is what he says on CoV chaos only.
>serpent tempted humanity because he saw their potential
>says the chaos end is a result of the same thing happening in the next line

But is there honestly anyone left who doesn't realize this? Confirmation is good though.
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>>502901963
You will play the SMTVVEX updates for years to come and you will be happy
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will SMTVVEX finally feature dress up minigames for 'Bino like a maid costume?
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>>502901963
they just added content for it
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>add one quest
>write nine lines of dialogue which individually appear under different ending circumstances
>retards actually replay your game 9 times to see the chaos-creation line, the neutral-creation line, the law-creation line, the truetral-creation line, the bull ending line, the snake ending line, the pre-tiamat line, the post-tiamat line etc
they could lock the reveal of aogami's favorite ice cream flavor behind beating the game 20 more times and faggots would eat it up
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>>502902205
And this is what Yoko says about potential. I don't see how they could have made this any more obvious now.

>>502903001
CoC actually has him say the same shit regardless of the ending you pick. CoV is the route where his dialog noticeably changes the most.
But I know it's you avery, you mental case. Facts don't matter to you.
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>>502903001
oh no why are people so intrigued by finding out there's content they can't see playing the game just one time in a game meant to be played multiple times
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Remember the scene when aogummy said hi sweetie I baked some chicken tenders so they're crispy but not unhealthy if I had fried them instead and also some milk I hope you had a good day and mc wakes up from his dream and kills another whore while crying that sure was good writing
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>>502903852
Sounds like SMT1 before Hero's mom gets eaten.
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>>502903948
>Good morning sweetie. Make sure you check your email, walk the dog, and don't go into any suspicious hospitals. If a police officer knocks on the door, I'll make sure to let him in. Have a nice day and try not to feel too bad.
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>>502903257
>But I know it's you avery, you mental case. Facts don't matter to you.
You're suffering from Avery Derangement Syndrome. A certified AveryPost would have bizarre syntax and grammatical errors - I just think V is shit and no amount of post-launch lore-drips will fix that. And Vengeance was a pretty big post-launch lore-drip, albeit with a full price tag lmao

>>502903698
The "content" is shorter than this fucking post and amounts to slightly less vague insinuations about the plot.
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>>502904720
He only pretends to be an ESL to make it seems like he's multiple posters.
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Vengeance lost. Just like how it lost any possible chance to win any nominations at TGAs.
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>>502904720
oh no why are people posing about smt in smt general
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>>502903257
Now post the Japanese text.
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>hit enemy first
>enemies randomly start first
>get hit by enemies
>enemies always start first
Who designed this shit? Can they just learn from persona
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Whos avery?
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>>502905597
I'm curious if all these lines use the same term for potential actually. It's going to be a bitch getting the Japanese dialog though because I'll have to scan youtube for it. One day when I have time I will. If someone else that knows JP wants to do it go for it. The Yoko dialog is her demon haunt dialog maxed out.
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>>502902530
Yes and it will sell gangbusters
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so how many more free updates will SMTV than SH2? they're equal right now? place your bets and win a fantastic prize
will they repurpose the SH Pixie for one of them and call it "Nixie" or something
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>>502906752
hey i was in the middle of reposting but without it sounding like i had a stroke. rude.
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>>502906752
Who cares about getting more free updates when they won't fix the writing or the dungeons.
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>>502906837
i dont know what you'r etalking about.
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>>502906752
I said that will be the last one and I haven't changed my opinion. unless game awards comes and goes and nothing gets announced for the next year
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>check out devil survivor figures out of curiosity
>only DeSu 2 ever got them
>airi, fumi, Io and rabbit kun are the only ones to get figures
If only the first game got an anime
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>>502908763
People keep forgetting that DeSu 2 was far more popular than DeSu, hence why it even got a anime adaptation
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im sick, can someone cast patra on me. Im dying.
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>>502906752
SH2 is done and rightfully so. SMTVVEX is only getting started.
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>>502903257
Leg rings are so STUPID. What are they even FOR
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>>502910239
For lewd.
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>>502910239
They're working as intended
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>>502909627
Shame EX won't fix the game at all.
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vengeance runs surprisingly good on the deck
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>Owning the meme deck
Cringe
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>>502912937
a literal toaster could run vv since most of the game is nothing but empty bland deserts
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>a literal toaster could run vv
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>>502913038
cope Valve is the best
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VV does nothing but cause anger; it's so hilarious. It's really funny. You guys are just so angry, and I'm laughing—truly.
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VV will be treated like Nocturne in 10 years
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>>502913331
*fills PM Koshimizu's toaster holes with bread*
The tables have turned
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>>502913472
Eugh, I just dislike everything about V and VV. Don’t like the music, dungeons sure are dungeons, story is meh, and the combat is the only saving grace but there’s a lot of bullshit tacked on that makes some stuff irrelevant, even when I don’t use it. I don’t hate the game, mostly cuz I can’t be arsed to feel much about it
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>>502913728
That reminds me, I should make a Koshimizu toaster edit. The toaster bros.
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>>502913989
what you said can be applied to Nocturne as well, except for the music
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>>502913728
I'll have toasts after he fills my holes
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>>502914053
That’s why nocturne is around the mid point in my list of favorite megaten games. Pretty fun when I was getting into the series, really don’t want to go back to it unless I’m in the mood to replay
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>>502912937
>no more gdkchan to fix ryujinx to work for the switch 2
It's so over for emulation. Shadps4 and that ps5 jailbreak to emulator route are my only hope.
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Which demons need redesigns? Michael, Uriel, Gabriel, Raphael and Thor are getting a little stale. The Archangels should get a non-SM4 abomination update, and Thor should lose the stockings.
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>>502914829
You'll trigger the Thor fag but I agree honestly. He should be redesigned to match Odin. Loki too. The three of them look very mismatched.
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Why are english speaking smt fans almost embarrassed to be seen liking smt? This is beyond merely the negativity on veejee even reddit and xttr can't talk about a given entry without undermining their own enjoyment by shitting on some aspect of it unprompted. For like social approval among other megaten nerds and oldfags?
I see only fanartists be able to express their love for the series with 0 bitterness or sense of jadedness.
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>>502914958
And if they ever go to the trouble of doing that, they should make a new Baldur design to go with them.
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>>502915239
idk, fucked up world we live in.
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>>502914829
>Thor should lose the stockings
Stockings? His legs are bare, he just has tattoos. But you're right, they need to give him fishnets instead.
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I have a good idea for smt VI. Lalah angel, Zelenin archangel, Mastema archangel. They can be on a space ship and it can be painted red and going 3 times faster than normal. At some point, Mastema can put on a pair of sunglasses and say that he has never betrayed anyone ever.

The ship has all sorts of extremely weird passengers like people commonly seen people on this board. Like a so called amnesiac detective in a black hat who lost all his memory after being brained by a guy wearing a purple turban from jupiter is busy chasing a yellow haired girl around the ship who is in turn chasing the Hare of Inaba. There is also a woman on board, but her name is a guy's name and she is currently on holiday.

A series of hair raising incidents involving dead or zombified people occur, like coming across a ship where all the inhabitants have been crystallised into salt.

Another ship tries to board them forcibly and it contains 4 badly disguised nuns and monks from the convent (It's sister Gabby and brothers Michael, Raphael and Uriel coming to arrest Mastema).

The whole mission is actually a plot to find a box that allegedly has the power to destroy both law and chaos forever.

However unbeknownst to everyone Jimenez finds it next to that place where everyone found that weird demon (in the bathrooms) and puts it in the bin where it belongs, causing a huge black hole to open up over Australia.
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>>502914829
>Complained for years about how the archangels should go back to their original design after IV & IVA
>They're finally back to normal in V
>"Their designs are getting stale. They need a redesign already"
Fuck off
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>>502916016
I'd even take Fat Thor at this point. Just give the man a redesign.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhczbaZU4kU
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>>502913989
It's the best SMT and saved SMT
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>>502916761
>Saved SMT
You're acting like the series was on it's last legs and about to become dorment if V never came out/didn't sell well.
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>>502916761
Maybe financially, but I heavily disagree on it being the best. Just a lot of issues with V and the misgivings I have of Vengeance’s existence
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Please stop begging for redesigns when all of them been major downgrades when compared to their previous designs
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>>502916942
Yes I'm convinced that SMT would have fallen into irreversible irrelevance and ultimately shelved if not for V and particularly VV and I'm grateful that SMT is now very healthy
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>>502917018
Because it's a rerelease? It's nothing new for Atlus no matter how shitty it is.
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>>502917670
Not it being a rerelease-I expected that in all honesty but it’s just the lack of support the original V had, in addition to just nothing being out when it was released. No dev interviews, art books, or even any updates outside of nerfing the demon king castle. It’s petty but it is what it is
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>>502917971
The radio silence made me believe we were getting a expansion of some kind a few months out from release honestly. I didn't expect it to take a little over 2 years but I was just glad it finally happened. At least this time the radio silence feels much less overwhelming because all the signs are there that they plan to do more in the semi near future. I was worried with that new interview though when Doi said "sorry no spoilers" months after release because they were doing the exact same shit last time where Doi would talk about his work but couldn't give any details and we were wondering what the fuck was going on.
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>>502919492
The mini update is probably just lined up to coincide with Metaphor people needing a new game
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>>502920279
I doubt it. Mainly because they made a Playlist for EX tracks. They need to put something in there.
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>>502914829
all of them need to turn into hot sex demons
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>Vengeance demo
>5 hours of running around hitting things
>5 minutes of plot
the real SMT experience
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>>502917505
IV was the second best selling game atlus had ever made at the time of its release, the series was never at the risk of dying
since mainline is part of atlus's history it will never get shelved. will they cut down on its budget? yeah they sure did going from nocturne to IV, but regardless of how it sells you can always be sure that as long as atlus exist so will mainline.
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How do you guys pick which route to go on first playthrough? I always do the one I don't like the most so I can play the one that I like in subsequent run but always get bored after the second run to try to complete all the routes
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>>502923558
I go in blind and raw dog it usually. Nine times out of ten I somehow make it to the neutral or true end by virtue of completing everything and being a decent person per the choices
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>>502923558
I check the routes for route exclusive demons.
I get my demons
I then stop playing
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We're not ready for the maid costume DLC
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Ted Kaczynski becomes a SMT VI alignment rep, how does it play out?
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>>502916457
SMT VI will have an opening by Kenshi Yonezu animated in this style
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Powerful deadly cunny
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>>502926691
Noone cares
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>>502926936
No one cares about you not caring
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>>502926691
SJ is fun, if only the fusion calculator worked for it. I noticed that for redux at least you could backwards merge and then refuse units with better skills or
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>>502927298
I destyoed the game just using cunnylice as well
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>>502901963
Playing for dat ass
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Total IESLB pollution
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all games should have reverse compendium fusion like V
its so convenient
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>>502929728
It's really good. I hate looking up fusion combinations all the time.
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>>502914829
They are all too iconic and great designs, if Fatlus changes them it feels like a waste of time compared to bringing more famous mythological figures under the spotlight. Plus as far as I know the Archangels have autistic japanese fanbases so you're not gonna get those to be redesigned again.
>>502914958
>they should look like toku ultraman rejects
No thanks, if anything I want norse gods to look anime and norse like this art of Thor that has never been used as an in-game design.

I hate Doi's Odin, it's so ugly, I can't unsee Ultraman and the connection to Ultraman is also tied to Marvel and capeshit which makes me despise it even more. But it seems deeply set in stone and loved by Fatlus' marketing team and like most of the fanbase anyway, so I will just suffer in silence.
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>>502915239
Videogame fandoms are annoying and cynical. But I expect those kinds of guys got into SMT to stand out from Personafags anyway so they can't drop the hypercritical act, especially since the last few SMT games have had stories universally seen as bad and cringe so if they were caught liking them unironically it'd be like being seen naked by their gang of cool hypercritical peers.

People don't want to be seen as mindless consoomers and sheeple, so they overcompensate like that.
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>>502916215
Atlus glowies... fund this
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>>502934051
he is the atlus glowie
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>>502898640
>>502887984
I need sauce
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>>502902205
>>502903257
>Chaos end really was Adam and Steve and Yoko was getting them prepped
Lol. A shame all the Yoko ship shitters ran away already.
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>>502907445
This. Thankfully VVEX will come soon.
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>>502938671
Would they be insane enough to add an Amala style dungeon to VV after the last new one sucked? Imagine 8 floors of shakan but with even worse puzzle gimmicks on each floor.
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>>502915239
The SMT IP in the west since the localization of Nocturne Maniax has always been seen as the "JRPG franchise if you want extremely hard difficulty and well written stories" when compared to it's JRPG brethren like Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy. It was something that only the cool kids played and bragged about, since the common gamer wouldn't know that SMT exists or wouldn't care much when there was far more popular JRPGs to play on the PS2. This perception on the SMT franchise went on for years until the release of IVA, which many people begun to question if they were lied to about SMT being this amazing series when IVA had terrible writing, terrible protag design, bizzare scenes(Toki having an orgasm, "Homeslice just went bananacakes", etc), and questionable dungeon design. Of course, SMT fans promised that IVA was nothing more than a rare exception due to it's development team being most composed of new employees that did not understand about the essence of SMT.
But then SMT V finally came out. Which has essentially doubled down on the issues of IVA while even doing some things worse than that game, like the cast outside of Dazai being mostly non-existent in terms of character development or dungeons being mostly dropped in favor for large fields of sand. This and the fanbase becoming more normalfag(Fujos, gays, shippers, waifufags, etc) has made the SMT series seen as a joke in hardcore JRPG circles. So while SMT is doing well saleswise, the reception for it is in the gutter. So that's many people are embarrassed when talking about their favorite SMT entry, because they can't depend on the obscurity of the franchise to brag about it and to not be seen as one of the nu-smt fans.
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>>502941468
>the fanbase becoming more normalfag(Fujos, gays, shippers, waifufags, etc
I don't think you understand what a normalfag is.
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>>502941468
Thank you for confirming that Nocturnefags (and IV fags to a lesser extent) are edgelords poser who want to be seen as pretentious 2deep4u gamers.
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>>502941468
>more normalfag(Fujos, gays, shippers, waifufags, etc)
some of you weren't even born when fujos were sharing DDS/Nocturne/Raidou doujins on livejournal yet you can't stop whining about them as if they invaded your turf... pathetic, fujos have always supported this franchise before normalfags had any idea of what it was
also enlighten me, what are these hardcore jrpg circles you speak of?
if anything the problem is that garbage stories like IV/IVA/V/TDE are making people misinterpret this franchise so badly that to them it's just le edgy game where you punch god in the face that's all edge and no point... the identity crisis blogposts were right
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Loli series and japan are cunny pro. Deal with it
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>>502941468
The Nocturne and the TDE is literally the reason why SMT is shit.
And pretty much all "hardcore" JRPG community are filled with waifufags dumbass, JRPG is inherently an escapist genre at its core.
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>>502941468
>well written stories
lmao stop
>the fanbase becoming more normalfag(Fujos, gays, shippers, waifufags, etc)
you're too young to post here
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My favourite game is smt nine btw
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>>502950819
>>502945428
>>502928525
>>502927708
>>502920106
>>502919924
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DeSu if edgelords played Raidou 2 they would piss shit and cry at how a lot of the game is lighthearted demon detective fun and at how the edgy parts of the story are still hopeful despite the world being invaded by giant killer locusts with buzzsaws

captcha WHAHH
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>>502951846
You can also add that Raidou is Kaneko's pet project, the edginess of the previous games was a bonus, not a feature.
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>>502952345
I see people often debate that Kaneko wasn't that important for Raidou aside from character designs and that Yamai is the real guy behind the games. So what is it?
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>>502952345
>>502951846
Bludgeon fujoshitkikes
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>>502953763
I can't believe Marsh says this
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>>502953763
Nyarly finally revealed his ugly face to /smtg/
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>>502953763
Larrue please be kinder
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I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
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>slow as fuck to get everything whether its level or glory
I hate the buy the DLC or get fucked that atlus has been doing since SMT IV
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>>502959696
Since IV? Anon if you need incenses just grind fiends
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>>502942619
Maybe he means internet normalfags, the guy that lives in Twitter, discord, YouTube and such. Degeneracy like that is very common nowadays, whether be ironic or not.
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>>502947786
spoopy
>>502947630
translation when
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Chiaki...joosy...
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All the sidequests so far are just help collect shit and kill this monsters 200 times
Are there any story-based sidequest in V?
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>>502964569
>story-based sidequest in V
lol
lmao
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SMT V writers forgot to write the story for the game
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>>502964569
There's the alignment based sidequest, but thier more of the same go kill this monster BS.
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>>502965745
SMT never had a story
t. only played Nocturne
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>>502967172
I never understood what this complaint was supposed to mean, genuinely what are people trying to say with "nocturne has no story"? Even fighting games have stories to justify dudes punching each other
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Sex with Louisa ferre
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>>502969383
they are retarded and just want to see demi-fiend punch gawd in the face
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Sex with Not Lucifer from Metaphor
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The most story heavy MegaTen was DDS and it was melodramatic BULLSHIT
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>>502969383
I think they just don't like that the MC is alone the whole game and want chiaki and isamu to travel with you like in IV or SMT1 or something instead of just sporadically appearing like they do in the game. As a result of it being a more lonely road theres not as much banter or dialogue. Thats my only explanation for this viewpoint
But nocturne still has some sort of story event or development pretty much every dungeon outside of like, those 4 subway tunnels that connect that 4 portions of the vortex world that are basically filler content. Legit I don't think theres a single of the areas here that has no story development of some kind outside of those subways?
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>>502954760
>>502954928
>>502955242
absurd reaction
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bring me alice
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there she is!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>502971038
GOD !!$%26 DAMMIT
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I also think they just expect way more dialogue and explanations than the game has. Nocturne is very show don't tell, it would rather give you a story event and let you think about it for yourself than have a character say how they feel in relation to that. At most you'll get Hijiri commenting on things like the fall of the Mantra or Isamu's isolation but everytime he does, it's as a springboard for your next move.
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Luv heroines
Nuff said
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>>502971597
I think that kind of storytelling is a signature of most SMT games as a whole.
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roster poll is up:
https://strawpoll.com/1MnwkRpzMn7

it's a ranked poll, so the top 3 make the team.
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Alice is literally a butt queen
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>>502969908
>Metaphor
Huh theres a Lucifer there?
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>>502975998
>>502969908
stop the annoying faggotry already, hetero franchise
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>>502975589
>two bombs weren't enough (thor)
Kek
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eww the schizo replied to me
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>>502975589
Keep Mastema in first place
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>>>/v/695145017
bbbbtfo..
:O
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>>502972290
>>502972525
>>502972782
COOM
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are you feeling hurt?
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who told you to raid that thread? I just pointed how i btfod raidoufags!
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>>502975589
mastema! mastema!
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>>502978498
a fine looking gentleman
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Metaphor? of what exactly?
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>>502980269
Racism.
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>>502979097
the most handsome angel there is
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>>502981252
but do you agree that alice is a beautiful cunny?
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don't worry im no glowie
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>>502975589
what is this?
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>>502981841
no idea im just happy to be alice
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>>502976761
mfw they inevitably give him a new form and doi references this monstrosity in some way by giving him a mount or making him a taur of some kind
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Would you rather for a press turn based game
>Have the party members be insanely versatile with multiple different elements/gimmicks per character, difficulty comes from the bosses having better stats, more turn icons, and smarter AI
or
>Having the bosses be less intense, difficulty comes from the party members being less versatile and having to have better resource management
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>Louisa ferre
>Lu-ci-fer
Holy shit bros
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>>502983086
VV's team building autism is probably my favorite part of it, so I lean more towards the first option.
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>>502983086
Latter
Every demon in V has like 10 million skills how is this fun
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>>502983464
What other silly ways are there to say Lucifer?
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>>502981841
poll for the last spots on the divegrass team
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I have stuff to do but I wanna play Ronde. I don't know if I want to skip the Sun-day trail or try doing it because the next stage is the last one in disc 1.
>>502983027
It'd be so retarded but I'd love that
>>502983086
First option
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>>502976761
ronde guy confirmed to be a fujogirl, yuck
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>Mastema
I don't get the appeal
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>>502985098
I would Mastema and I don't get it either. He's not even close to my type at all. Maybe its that Kaneko magic.
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>>502984062
Louie Ferris
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why hetero posters are all gone now i thought i spooked the fujo crowed? cursed general
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>>502985241
I'm talking about the character itself
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I'll do the final disc 1 stage. The demon Cassius is being attacked by a rival faction of the demon civil war, and Charlie decides that since he's not actively causing trouble that maybe helping him will help find Satoshi.
>>502985081
I only care for Ronde's Mastema.
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well i don't care
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>>502983086
I like both.
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>>502985558
Oh that's easy. It's really funny to piss him off because he's a smug bastard that thinks he can get away with anything by manipulating others, so its satisfying to see him get all mad and seethe about his plans falling apart. I'm sure there's an archetype or a name for a character like this but I'm drawing a blank here.
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warmth heart
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>>502986010
Instant loss.
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handsome, soft-spoken supernatural being, humanoid but looks extremely weird, animal features, looks like an excellent cuddler. and >>502986010 of course. he's such a fun sore loser and i'd like to set him on fire.
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>>502986193
Cute!
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>>502902205
I forgot to mention this when I saw the chaos end dialog but Goko also says that the results of that ending will be a path of strife. That leads me to believe Mastema's warning about a throneless world being pure hell was right. It also means that original sin has consequences.
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>>502975589
Thor-sama's got the legs to kick some nuclear-level goals ^3^
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>>502985845
I got a little too cocky. I actually totally forgot how hard this stage was, not as bad as how I got my ass beat my Muhammed though. I saw a youtube video of someone on this stage that stuck himself in a death loop because he saved right before Kantarou died of poison
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>>502989979
so dreamy, thor-sama...!
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>ring
it's a literal halo
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>>502989979
>>502986705
>>502990384
please stop and take it to xitter of dumblr, discordfujoshit
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>>502986010
Exactly as this person says. Usually your chessmaster type characters are smooth operators who always keep it calm. This character becomes a ranting maniac the instant his plans get stopped
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All of these games at great prices but VV is still overpriced despite being worse than most of them. Ridiculous.
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>>502993906
I bought UO in the last sale a couple weeks ago for $2 more, I got jewed
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>>502993906
why do you think vv is worse than all of them? is it because it's filled with fujo crap?
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>>502975589
It's funny how nobody is voting for Alice because of the fucking Aliceschizo
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>>502994524
That's what you call environmental storytelling
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>>502993906
36 is not bad... but im gonna wait for the switch 2 performance patch or whatever they end up doing
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>>502994469
It's more recent so they are trying to get more shekels. Also a lot of people only buy Nintendo consoles for Pokemon so Atlus thinks that they can sell it to them.
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>>502993906
i bought P5R on switch last month for fucking 26 dollars and now its 15? im going to do something drastic.
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YHVH....smite this filthy snake....
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>>502991908
I thought you filtered my ass? Get out of my sight you ignorant babooon, you did not even play Alice's peak waifu games (Raidou 1 and 2), you did not even do her special quest with Nebiros and Belial, you FAKE waifufag. I bet you do not even own Alice merch and yet you claim her as yours... PATHETIC.
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>>502999461
I should edit this with Mastema and Yoko.
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>>502999461
My snake eats pies if you know what I mean
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>>502999515
>sonichofaggory
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>>503002114
you just reminded me of this kek
https://youtu.be/T5wtZQEnkTc
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>>503003210
ok, interesting information
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I'm going to say it SOL NIGER
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>>503006508
BIG BOSS?
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>>502975589
>>502994524
i would vote for alice but i don't wanna give anything nice to the aliceshizo.
he's somehow more annoying than avery.
i actually dislike the aliceshizo, which is rare for me 'cause i find it hard to hate people over internet interactions. i didn't care if avery posted. he was just annoying.
aliceshizo is disgusting and ban evades. and he tries way too hard to deflect the hyss-ho allegations.
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Woo, disc 1 is done. Satoshi is stuck in a virtual space called Anitora and for helping him against the rival faction, Cassius helps Asuka access Anitora. I actually missed 2 optional stages so although it says I finished stage 19 it should actually be stage 21 I think. Next stage is the big showdown against Molech.
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>>502993617
why did people hate akechi in vanilla p5 so much then? is it 'cause he was his dad's tool?
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>>503007986
>Anitora
it says "antinola"
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>>503007769
You find me annoying?
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VV challenge run ideas?
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>>503009936
Playing VV without getting bored
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>>503007986
They finally access Antinora and see Satoshi standing on an altar of sorts. They call for him to come but he refuses, lamenting on how Asuka abandoned him and how he was tortured, before claiming that he's now the Demon King. He tells them to stop chasing him and that as punishment for leaving him to the demons he'll have them die in antinora. Satoshi calls Molech, his kidnapper who now seems to be following his orders, and tells him to kill them. I really like the power dynamic change between Satoshi and Molech. Also when I was reading the guide I noticed Satoshi later gets an Arcana skill, which should only be reserved for demons, so did he become part demon during his torture? He does say his soul was taken out or something like that.
>>503008735
You're right, sorry
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>>503011019
>You're right, sorry
not a big deal. no worries!
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>>503009649
yes
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I got a game over so I'm not gonna bother for tonight kek. I take back what I said in >>503011019 I don't think Satoshi himself became entirely part demon but in the bad ending we see there's another Satoshi that tries taking over him, so I think his soul was split in two and the part that was going around killing brown kids was the one that was part demon (the guide says that it's the soul of the demon king, and in the other bad ending it says that Angra Mainyu calls upon Asuka, so maybe that is actually Ahriman?). There's a lot about Ronde's story that isn't explained, and the official guide is a good source but not perfect. The good part about being one of the only ones who gives a fuck about this game is that I can just make my own headcanons and nobody can argue.
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>>503014084
>I can just make my own headcanons and nobody can argue.
just like me and if...! but TBF it's not like your conclusions come out of nowhere. they're based on something.

>There's a lot about Ronde's story that isn't explained, and the official guide is a good source but not perfect
you said you finished disc 1. how many discs are there? stuff might be explained later.

i like that you're playing ronde. most people, including myself, are put off by the graphics.
but i did try to play ronde. the emulator froze and i had to do the first mission over however. i never went back to it after that.
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>>503009936
Install the randomizer mod.
Do a solo run
Do a law demon only run
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>>503015480
>just like me and if...!
What headcanons do you have?
>how many discs are there?
Two
>stuff might be explained later
I actually beat the game already; I'm doing a hard mode run. The story, like everything else in this game, is just rushed. The guide even seems rushed, some stages have the wrong pictures
>most people, including myself, are put off by the graphics
I was too, but it grows on you. The ending cutscenes remind me of ReBoot
>i had to do the first mission over however
I had to do disc 1 all over again. I was so devastated and almost dropped the game but I powered through
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I think the kissing scene in EP should have been an extended, very detailed cutscene.
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Just opened the thread, is playing Ronde via emulator (and maybe a translation patch) viable or no? The small clips I've seen of it look cool, and the artwork the anon is sending looks really sick
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>>503017580
If you know Japanese or can install an app to translate it as you play, then do it.
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>>503017354
Based
>>503017580
>Ronde via emulator (and maybe a translation patch) viable or no?
Yeah? That's really the only way to play it without a Saturn. I recommend Retroarch over Mednafen, and remember to put both discs in an m3u file. No translation patch but there's a translated script you can find. Not perfect but like 90% good. Doesn't translate items, commands, etc but you can learn as you go along. Or ask me lel
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>>503017354
The kissing scene was extremely out of place, inappropriate(She's in her early 30s and Tatsuya is still a teenager), and doesn't make sense in terms of narrative as Tatsuya saw Maya as his big sister than some lover.
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Rondeez nuts
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>>503017132
>What headcanons do you have?
hazama tried to kill amon because he left him and hazama has abandonment issues (hazama gets quiet when amon announces he'll leave to train for a bit in hazama's chapter. the script is online).
hazama was jealous of reiko because his mom chose her over him (he creates a similar experience for the player in envy as the one in his flashbacks where his mom left him).
hazama won't let the demons leave the tower of confinement because of his abandonment issues (demons use to be able to leave the tower of confinement until hazama took over).
hazama takes everyone in the school to a world where no one can die because his dad died, which also feeds into his abandonment issues (if... has a reincarnation/guardian system and there seems to be a funeral going by the outfits and background in a certain flashback of hazama's).
hazama becomes proud of his intelligence because kayama compliments him for it (hazama chapter script).
hazama has trouble making it clear what he means when talking. (ootsuki mentions he phrases things oddly for a test he handed in.
this comes in for another headcanon.
hazama didn't really want to fuck kayama, he just wanted her to hug him.

i'll extrapolate more later if you're curious but i have to go rn. holy shit.
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>>502983086
I can enjoy both but I prefer the first one
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>>502988779
It's a chaos ending pushed by demons who murder schoolgirls in the name of freedom, strife comes with the territory
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>>503025987
I think some people believed the chaos end would be free of all problems because there is no throne though. Logically though, it would be stupid to think every problem came from only the throne.
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People also keep forgetting that you're also killing yourself for a future that you don't even know that would be better off without the throne
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>>502943623
>fujos have always supported this franchise
Even then, they're fucking disgusting with their degeneracy.
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>>503027602
The MC and Aogami along with all his demons go with him into the next world. Neither of them die.
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>>503017354
Based
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>>503028557
>sex with your own dead body
>wound fucking
>cannibalism
christ, planet would be fucked if women could physically overpower men.
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>>503030420
You summed up why I couldn't keep looking for dmc art after a while. Vergil dlc just came out and filled the void waiting for smtv. So I wanted bro bonding art only to find every gore fetish imaginable. I expected incest of course but not all that, jesus. I'm glad Demi was spared somehow from all that despite being in a game with Dante.
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>>503030979
SMT fans are not beating the allegations
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>>503031369
You can't look up dmc art without running into fujo accounts. It's not possible.
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>>503028557
That comes with fandoms and not just fujos in particular.
Fujos' fanart/fiction still can range from just Tatsuya and Jun handholding while blushing to whatever I had to witness in those fanfiction tags on Ao3, so they're not exactly the best group.
But in Japan and in the 90s/early 2000s, fujos and in general fangirls of MegaTen seemed like a very nice subgroup of fans that loved the characters and the games. I haven't looked much into old MegaTen doujins but seeing their art in things like 4koma publications is always a treat.
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>>503028557
How are women more interested in destructive pregnancies than men? Odd.
>>503032445
>That comes with fandoms and not just fujos in particular
This is true
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>>503032445
In the 90s and early 2000s, a lot of the things were on the down low. You had dialup internet so you could barely download anything. Sadpanda and scan sites were non-existent in those days, if it existed you were downloading at like 10 kb/s and you had a high chance of downloading malware or random ass files. People were scattered throughout a lot of different bbs or dreamwidth or irc channels.

Authors would also go full retard and sue people making fanfics of their work back in those days.
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>>503029375
>The MC and Aogami along with all his demons go with him into [headcanon with no actual proof to this claim]
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>>503034952
>Aogami says he's staying on a bench chat after Tiamat
>Yoko says she will travel with you in the new world in the demon haunt
>Goko is giving you Marici in the chaos end so you can use her in battle in the next world
>if the implication is that you're summoning Marici, then that means he's keeping the rest of his demons too; there is no reason to think otherwise
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>>503029375
I don't see how a world with a god Nahobino, goddess Yoko and powerful demons with knowledge of the previous world could ever achieve a truly new world without a power structure that will lead to unequality. If they were serious about their vision they should have dissolved themselves
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>>503035412
Yoko wouldn't conflict with anything if it was just her but the Nahobino really conflicts. No matter how you look at it, Aogami doesn't fit in a chaos world like that (nor would he agree with it) but because of the events of the game there is no way the MC is giving him up. Not to mention he needs his full power to break the world apart and that comes from Aogami. It would be an oversight if not for the fact hypocrisy is a theme in the game. Yoko contradicts her own logic much like everyone else does. Tao even comments on this with Yakumo and says being a walking contradiction is what being human means.
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>>503036859
The posts complaining about fujos were longer than the 3 posts of smtv discussion above you.
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i'm back

>>503017132
>actually beat the game already; I'm doing a hard mode run. The story, like everything else in this game, is just rushed. The guide even seems rushed, some stages have the wrong pictures
i see. that's cool! not the guide being rushed though.

>was too, but it grows on you. The ending cutscenes remind me of ReBoot
what makes it similar to ReBoot?
wdym by ReBoot? resident evil?

>had to do disc 1 all over again. I was so devastated and almost dropped the game but I powered through
that sucks. what made you want to power through it?

>if... headcanons
sorry if the other post wasn't that readable. i should've formatted differently.
but a few more:
>otsuki didn't really wanna fuck hazama
pixie says he's a partner who loved hazama but pixie is a demon. demons wanting to help people and giving them items in the context of if... leads to sex eventually. otsuki goes out of his way to help hazama. to a demon like pixie, that would seem like otsuki wants to eventually fuck hazama.

>otsuki is another greed boss, filling a similar role as chefei
he appears in the world of greed and helps hazama. it could be read as otsuki thinking hazama is his only hope to get home but i think otsuki helps hazama out of greed. he wants power/riches.
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SMT V is really a game huh
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>>503038109
I can in fact confirm it's a video game.
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SMTVV EX announcement when?
Raidou Remaster announcement when?
NEWS WHEN!?
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>>503036139
Young man should have found out Aogami could be rescued from Tiamat before endgame and be forced to make the decision to save the bull and continue the throne or give him up out of belief in Yoko's world. It would align with Tao's refusal to sacrifice others versus Yoko's willingness to as well
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The only way to fix SMT V is to completely remake the entire story instead of trying to fix it
The gameplay and demons design can stay
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>>503038614
Just so Yoko doesn't contradict herself? That's not even the only time she does though. And the chaos end works fine as it is.
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>>503036859
How does Chiaki not get killed by demons
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>>503038960
human pussy
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>>503038812
Yoko being contradictory isn't a problem, but building up Tiamat's revival all game only to kill her on chaos and make her return pointless for the creation of the world she was summoned for is bad
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>>503040131
At the end of the day she's just the Orochi insert though. The sacrifice plot line sealed her fate in that regard. You could see it a mile away even before release. She has to die. I won't say it doesn't feel like a rug pull on the chaos end but at the same time you get a law vs chaos question where you're asked what you want to do when you get to the throne and choose betweeen "re-create the world" or "kill Tiamat" and killing Tiamat is actually the chaos point answer.
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IV remaster next year
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>>503040650
SMTVV EX, Raidou remaster, and IV/IVA PC port would be a good line up for 2025 but it's probably wishful thinking.
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>>503040467
I agree she's just Orochi and that works on law but just shows that law was unfortunately the only route that was taken seriously by the writers
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>>503040754
Mmmmmmm more pointless remasters and updates while SMT 1 rots in the corner alongside Persona 1 & 2
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>>503041363
It works in chaos too though. There shouldn't be only one ending where the Susano-o myth sticks. Unless the point is to have one ending where Susano-o myth is reenacted and another ending where the Nahobino/MC becomes something else entirely, but that would require a huge rewrite of the story. I wouldn't call the chaos ending lazy because it works with the rest of the story.
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>>503041396
>complains about remasters
>wants a smt1 remaster
Make up your mind. IV and IVA are also rotting away on the 3DS, a dead console with no eshop.
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>>503041579
Tiamat shouldn't be reduced to an Orochi stand in on her own alignment though. On law she's a snake for a bull to beat like in the heroic myths, it's silly and lazy to stomp on her as a bull in chaos too
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>>503041684
a smt 1 remaster is not pointless considering it's quite literally the first entry in the franchise and deserves the remaster treatment more than any other game
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>>503042023
But Yoko is an extension of Tiamat too and she wins.
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>>503042119
It might deserve it but a IV/IVA collection would sell better.
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comparing IV to V, do you think atlus is heading to a good direction with mainline?
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>>503042853
Better in gameplay and battle system. Still whats the point of the shit like Mimans and Demon Haunts?
Worse in story and map design
The only consistent part of the series is the music
I used to hate how lengthy sidequests were in IV and IVA but then I played V and I want them back
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Assuming there was an SMT skill that self buffed all of your attributes (Heat Riser) to +3 at the cost of HP how much HP much do you anons think that should that cost??
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>>503043668
>assuming
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>>503044375
Self only though
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>obtained Menorah of Knowledge
Oh god not again.
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>>503043150
It’s sad because now that the games have proper cutscenes like Nocturne, they can’t just make a ton of quests without the characters awkwardly standing around staring at each other. With IV and IV:A there’s abstraction that makes you suspend your disbelief since it relies on sprites, portraits, and describing what happens to you rather then showing it.
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>>503042853
Maybe in gameplay, but definitely not in writing or art direction. The series might legitimately become Lucifer just grooming young teens to fight the Great Will.
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whens the YHVH dlc?
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I am having lots of fun.
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>>503042853
Yes
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is canon of creation or canon of vengeance better
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>>503040754
>ports/rereleases
>wishful thinking
Fuck my life.
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>>503047873
Vengeance. If you're a first timer play both in release order so you can understand why it's better.
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>>503042853
the gameplay is good, but i want a different setting and for them to stop reusing the same PS2 demon models
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>>503048315
They'll never stop reusing the PS2 models unless they redesign all of them or Persona 6 gives them all a overhaul
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>>503042853
VV's story is better than IV. Actually even V's base story is. IV just like V has a strong start but IV's endings fall apart much worse than V's. IV is also bogged down by worst nostalgia bait than V. Where in V, it's a sequel game s the Nocturne wank has a point, IV's references are more like walking through a gallery of SMT's greatest hits. Metaphor also did the exact same thing and it's just as stupid. Story wise, IV is very basic and it has a generic cast that are purely their alignments and nothing else. People say the same thing about V but it's just not true, more so now because of VV. Your rep on CoC is two characters with two different objectives that overlap by the end and they both either show why they think the way they do or progressively get there. Walter and Johnathan first introduce themselves to you as law man and chaos man with the dream sequence. You know where they are going and everything they say amounts to it. Tao and Yoko are like this too but instead of purely responding how you expect, they end up doubting each other and even finding common ground in some arguments. Where IV shines is it's lore building but even a lot of that wouldn't be as good as it is without outside material like the art book and interviews that show you the work that went into it. V's world is much more interesting along with the cast but suffers from a lack of world and character building. The world building there is relies on myth and piecing things together. Without interviews you could argue seeing things in the plot is pure speculation while IV has a lot of dev commentary to back up whatever you might be speculating. So it's easy to get wrapped up in thinking IV having more dialog heavy quests makes it better, but quantity isn't quality.
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Yea but how do we fix Soul hackers
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>>503049895
Ritualistically sacrifice Ishida.
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We need the RGG team to make a SMT game
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>>503049575
It's not controversial to say that everyone likes Agrat
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>>50305082 (me)
sorry that was rude of me to summarize your messag ein bullet points, i wont be rude next time.
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Looking at Zelenin with lustful eyes
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>chaosfag brainwashes and vores a high school girl
Really? What happened to people choosing to be pieces of shit?
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>>503053049
Was Yoko choosing to betray you not a shitty thing to do?
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>>503050827
we need David Lynch to write an SMT concept before he dies
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Still bugs me what happened to my cute and beloved human(?) Loli Alice..
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Alice..
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Giving alice company
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>>503054802
>necro picking on me
Kill youeself annoying fujorat for ruining a potential alice picture but its just a gayfaggot cosplay
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>>503055250
>necro attention whore shit stirring
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how many pictures you have in your alice folder?
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>>503055828
Ac pathetic amount. I only started posting Alice this year. Truth is I like to pretentd I'm a girl. I admit this only once.
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>>503055828
I have to potential to own everything about her even including pictures pre pixiv
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>>503056838
I have the*
Sorry pozzed out
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>>503049895
By forgetting about it
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I always just beat demons until they beg to join me
Fuck negotiating
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I found the sex dungeon
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I love alice sexually and platonically. She is my daughterru
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>>503049578
You can just say that you like VV story more



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