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eu pvp guild when?
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Hpallies run this shit
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>>502882117
Tomorrow.
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Why do people like melee classes so much?
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>>502881486
hey
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>>502882008
Rogue not being able to break stun is so troll
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>>502882305
more than one button to press
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Can dwarf hunters be better than nelves for devilsaur farming since stoneskin helps against rogues that might try to steal?
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For me at least. I'm taking my time this go around. I'm not worried about the race to 60. I'm not looking to be the top player. I'm not hoarding insane amounts of gold. I'm not going to quest or mob grind the same. I'm not going to be competitive in the slightest. I'm not going to worry about raid lock outs or even make it a huge priority like I have in the past.

I'm just going to play the game.

I'm going to quest in zones I never really fully experienced before. I'm going to grind those obscure factions that offer little to no reward at Exalted. I'm going to max out professions I never tried. I'm going to help lowbies when I can. I'm going to try and get out of mostly solo play. Hell, I might even PvP a bit.

2004 I was 13. 2019, I'd just lost my dad the week prior to release so my focus was elsewhere. 2024, I'm coasting on a routine that works for me. Where my fellow full time working single dads at?

So this time as much as it will be the same, it's going to be different. Very much looking forward to the foreseeable future being back in Azeroth. See y'all in a couple days.
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The new LFG tool is in SoD if you want to take a glance ta it, maybe elsewhere but too lazy to check.
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>decide to roll on Alliance for SoD
>be level 16 in Stormwind
>undead rogue ganking some poor level 48
>multiple level 60 Alliance run past, without being bothered
there are actual people here that are going to roll Alliance on a PvP server. This faction is beyond cucked.
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>>502882406
Shadowmeld mogs it because you can just jump them from max range and they'll never even get a crippling off.
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>>502882434
looks cool, hope people use it.
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>>502882171
Post full pic
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>>502882434
Looks soi hope it gets flooded with carry sells
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>>502882305
One class that I haven't rolled yet is rogue. You are basically the bottom of the barrel when it comes to groups and raids. Having so much competition only makes it worse.
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>>502882720
Only do it in a guild or with tank friend
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>>502882720
It's fun outside of parsie life thoughbeit
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>>502882412
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>>502882434
>Warrior
>DPS
>Paladin
>Tank
Yep and fresh died
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Who else is playing the real version?
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>total committed to alliance warlock
>suddenly feeling the draw of mage again
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>>502882720
>>502882801
>>502882860
I’m a cut above the rest. I’m not like the standard normie undead rogues. I’m the undead rogue that will rise above the riff raff and become a legend on my server. This time for sure.
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this general like a month and a half ago was falling off page 10 like twice a week lol.
times change i guess.
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i rermember when there was a LFG addon that worked the same one as the one theyre adding now and all the #nochanges freaks spammed the forums because not spamming trade chat to fill groups is anti-classic, so blizzard banned the addon

good times
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>>502882990
you need to be a female troll rogue to do that
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>>502882990
Sure anon. Or just play PvE if you want loot. No wpvp though.
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>>502882305
Holt shit druid is underplayed
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LFG SM CATH

pls can u inv? rogue

LFG SM CATH

LFG SM CATH

LF4M SM CATH NEED ALL (have key)

LF4M SM CATH NEED ALL (have key)

LF4M SM CATH NEED ALL (have key)

LF4M SM CATH NEED ALL (have key)

need a rogue?

need a rogue?

hey need a rogue?

inv, 40 rogue

LFG SM CATH

LFG SM CATH
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>>502882958
Don't go Warlock. It's the most fucking exhausting class in the game.
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>>502864702
I read about people sperging out about dual spec in the discords so I checked out the EU PvE discord and there was like one guy saying "oh cool" and that was it.
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>>502882720
As a healer or tank playing on a PvP realm I always try to take one pity rogue with me and at the very least get him the daggers that drop.

It's a courtesy call to keep your own faction rogues happy so they can camp and shit on the other faction as much as possible. Unlike a mage or lock or hunter it's also basically impossible to fuck up a rogue no matter how retarded they are. Even if they don't S&D and just spam Sinister Strike they'll still do decent damage. Complete retard-proof class which can be good especially early on when the shitters haven't been filtered yet.
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>>502882951
Not me since the hardcore tab disappeared for me lmao

>>502883036
I took a good long break from the beginning of Cata to now. I’ve had my time away from the game and I’m ready to jump back in for some classic FRESH and some MoP.
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The spergs in here are in full attack mode, fresh is working them up into a frenzy
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>>502882990
Stop projecting retailer
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>>502883127
How do you mean? Warlock is really fun for levelling compared to other casters imo

Mage literally presses frostbolt and frost nova. Priest literally presses pws, pain, and wand auto
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>>502883123
At 1 raid slot per group, nah. It's played just the right amount sadly
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>>502882958
alli warlocks will have a much easier time standing out and getting gear.
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>>502883124
>shift-click name
>filtered
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>>502883317
You want at least 2, bear druid is good in Naxx
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>want to play enh sham to shred in pvp but dont want to get cucked into healing and last in line for loot in raids
>don't want to play rogue because pooling energy is gay and combo point qol is awful in classic
what class
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>>502883036
>times change I guess
Ya its a mystery why the classic general would be more popular at the moment. I have no idea why I guess times change or something... I dunno hard to say
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>>502882543
But you want to be farming and they're more likely to be prowling around to ambush.
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>>502883384
Naxx aint for a long time, but sure. 1-2 required is a tiny percentage of the roster so the amount of available druid players is usually just right, can be a good perma raid slot if you're reliable
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>>502883317
if the leaks are true and hots stack then definitely you want to bring 2-3 dudus at least
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>>502883373
what addon?
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>>502883289
warlock is probably the most engaging class to level period. you have so many options to play with. can chain kill 3+ mobs at a time, throw tongues on casters to soft CC them, use felhunter to CS/purge if needed in caster heavy areas, chain fear/seduce for double CC, pre-sac a void wallker before a named elite.

and then you hit 60 and press curse + shadowbolt. raiding is gay
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>>502883413
>enh sham to shred in pvp
Bad news bud
Enh is like C tier at best in pvp.

Go Warrior. Playing a geared Warrior is like playing an Enhance shaman that crits windfury on every hit.
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>>502883317
Are the raids piss easy solved dogshit easy game everyone can clear blindfolded or are they so impossibly difficult they can only be completed by absolute top meta compositions of 40 people playing the exact right classes and specs?
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>>502883413
>want to play enh sham but blah blah blah
play enh sham.
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>>502883540
Renews would also stack and priests are already the most stacked healer. I don't think this is going to be the change that really unfucks druid anon, but it's less gay to play now atleast.
>>502883616
You've seen how this community is anon, absolutely parsebrained metafaggots. Find a dadguild and enjoy is the best way to enjoy the game
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>>502883590
lock is so op its boring. on hc i was doing 3-4 mob pulls and just vw sac + hellfire because the risk is 0. cant fathom how somoene can level some ez pet class, or mage or lock more than once.
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gdkp ban will punish non-meta classes more than anything

nobody will invite a enh shaman or ret pala to an SR raid
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>>502883590
I think so. Most casters have 1 button raid rotations so that isn't warlock specific. Playing lock in the open world vs mobs for questing feels good though, I agree it's probably the most engaging class for that although I'm partial to rogue, which ya is mostly ss and eviscerate but is great for avoiding and contributing to wpvp and anything a little tougher is satisfying to play through on rogue
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>>502883616
>run Naxx on the day it launches
>get owned by the first trash pack
>"HOLY SHIT THIS IS COOL"
>kill some bosses
>burn out a week later
play what you want a join a cool guild, fuck parsetrannies
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>>502882406
Based devilsaur doomsday midget prepper
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>get ganked while leveling
>respawn, tap, tap, summon, eat, tap, tap, tap, eat, create health stone, tap, tap, eat until like 80% hp, find quest mobs, start dotting then fearing
>start draining a soul for the two shards you just spent
>1 shot by rogue
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Anyone else rolling Alliance on PVP for NA? Gonna play Paladin and just vibe, I'm tired of being alone doing this shit and wanna hang.
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>>502882951
hardcore self found for me, still not sure of the class. maybe shaman. honestly id just play self found in normal server if i could so i could at least run dungeons for weapon upgrades.
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>>502883757
>hardcore
Warlock actually has the lowest % chance of making it to 60 out of any class. What you're describing as easy is more difficult to pull off than any other classes levelling strategy, invites a lot of risk, and when something happens you can't fight through you are the worst at escaping of anyone.

I agree with you though but it's an interesting stat
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>>502883616
Stop noticing the Vanilla Fallacy.
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classic is all about parsing and speedrunning, nobody cares about raid prog
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>>502883774
real
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Do they bother getting 40 raiders nowadays or do they just get like 35 people with a couple backup "benches"?
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>>502883981
>classic is all about parsing and speedrunning
Oh, no no no
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>>502883847
I'll be playing HC where druid and warlock are the most desired classes at endgame for their scarcity and nearly noone does naxx.

I'm gonna roll hunter because it's the last classic class I haven't played
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>>502882008
now that the dust has settled, were class specific pvp trinkets a good idea?
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>>502882008
It's not even funny how OP the dudu trinket is, meanwhile they can cover the poly, root and slow with a 100 mana shift. Off cooldown.

It's no wonder they're the kings of FC'ing.
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>AHHHHH OMGGGGGG ALLIANCE CLEARS PATCHWERK 8 SECONDS FASTER AT THE TOP END I MUST ROLL ALLIANCE TO PARSE!!!!!

Is there a classification for this mental illness?
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>>502884119
huntard is a nice class for soloing, easy to play hard to master. have fun anon!
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>>502882442
This is horde sponsored demoralization propaganda
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>>502883957
their stats are skewed because so many people make warlocks as summon bots
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>>502884142
No. Who the fuck ever gets charmed lol. They should clear any form of cc on a 2 minute cooldown like illidan intended
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>>502883616
the former but people treat it like the latter
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>>502883774
This. Why the fuck would I want to bring dead weight that will reserve top tier melee gear? You’re doing 200 dps and you want onslaught girdle?
Just bring literally anything else.
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You'd think Apes getting WF Rag kill with the whole raid wearing what effectively amounted to burlap sacks and wielding butter knives would have broken the metafaggotry symptom with vanilla.
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>>502884259
The stats only calculate dead characters or conpleted 60s

And they exist for level brackets, so shaman is one of the worst to get 60 but the best by a lot to get 20. Warlock is "bad" all the way through.
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>>502884197
shitters who want to feel good at something so they min max braindead vanilla raids. simple wrath raid mechanics are above dali's head
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>>502883957
>lowest % chance of making it to 60 out of any class
that's just because you only need 1 or 2 lock per raid. i gave up at lvl 43 on my hc lock, it felt about as boring as leveling paladin on hc. you literally cannot die unless you DC or walk off a cliff with bubble on cd or drown. lock is the same.
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>>502882305
>literally everyone rolling fury warrior to do epic big dps
>none of them will EVER tank even though fury is fine at it
>will sit in trade spamming for groups and never get one
such is the life of a metabab
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>>502884463
No, it has nothing to do with how many warlocks are created as its based on % of warlocks not % of characters overall. So 3% of priests make it to 60 and like 1.2% of warlocks or something. The stats only consider dead characters, when they died, and completed 60s, not inactive characters at lower levels
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>>502882305
>all those rogues
do they realize no one invites rogues to dungeons/raids?

>>502883124
there is no iteration of vanilla where this won't be the case, roguecucks are fucking themselves just to one shot lowbies
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>>502884470
>be fury warrior
>be willing to tank
am I destined for greatness?
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best dps spec for pubstomping BGs?
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>>502884439
They cleared it in 45 minutes too lol. Half their raid was level 57 wearing green questing gear kek
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>>502883774
This is the sad reality redditors won't accept. You will see countless of posts on reddit and the forum talking about "toxicity" because their dogshit spec won't get invited to pugs as soon as MC opens
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>>502883957
It’s actually huntard, according to deathlog.
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hows the ERP on classic servers?
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>>502883124
>looking for members, upper Blackrock spire
>HEY NEED A ROGUE?
>... nah
>heh, of course you don't. Who needs a rogue? the most nerfed class in the game
>wait wait wait...
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>still don't know what servertype to roll on
fuck fuck fuck, even HC is a lot of fun. But I guess it's always fresh so could do it later
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>>502884654
you're destined to tank, probably off tank if you're not an officer/GM friend
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>>502884470
>fury warriors will struggle to get into raids
lol
lmao

you're right about tank shortage though, nobody wants to tank SR raids
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>>502884759
Fuck I can't handle you idiots. That's total deaths and hunter is played vastly more often than warlock which is 2nd least played to druid not counting the faction specifics, both at the bottom you dumb ass retard

How does everyone this stupid I fuckong fuck fuck fuck you
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>>502884217
What sorts of things to master at 60?
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>>502884798
I dunno but I'm rolling hpala so I'll find out most likely..
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>>502884993
soloing various instances
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>>502884968
How do you feel about pitbulls
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>>502884798
with no RP-PvP servers its dead bro. gone good ol days of gooning in SM in TBC
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>>502884759
are shaman players the bvlls of vanilla wow?
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>>502885147
Hate them and hate their owners
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>>502884813
for me it was dope's wow exploration vids
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>>502884926
every raid wants fury wars, but there's always such a massive glut of them that it's the most competitive spot, and retards trying to get carried will get filtered
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>>502884439
Was that the alliance classic guild filled with dwarves and gnomes in quest greens and level 50s?
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>>502885175
Retard streamers and WPVP guilds will just trash them anyway
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>>502884968
>WHY DIDNT YOU LE POST DEATHLOG % INSTEAD OF BLIZZARD OFFICIAL OVERALL DEATH STATS???? SPOONFEED ME OR YOU ARE STUPID
Check it yourself dumb nigger. You’re the one who made shit up in the first place.
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>Want to play tank
>Everyone is going to expect me to be some stupid fucking memedps build because classic is just an autistic tranny coloured numbers game and not an actual fun adventure game like it should be
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>>502885182
no one plays them, and no one wants to invite them because they are the biggest cause of death on horde
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>>502885182
THERE ARE JUST FEWER OF THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SHAMAN IS IN THE BOTTOM 3 OF SURVIVABLE CLASSES IN HC

But shaman is an awesome class with a passionate playerbase. It's always funny to me how much horde loves shaman and alliance hates paladin
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redpill me on alliance warlock

I don't care about 1v1 because I can go SL and autowin even against undead rogues, but I plan to do as many AV premades as possible to put noshoes in the dirt, will 50% of horde being immune to fear fuck me over there?
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>>502885471
>AV
just sit back and cast your damage spells
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>>502885182
>forgets totems
>wipes your raid
>verification not required
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>>502885343
you are getting mad at an abstract hypothetical
play it like an adventure game
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vanilla is so good that changing features of it is a reoccurring debate
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>>502885308
The retard streamers were chasing the epic stories of Emerald Dream and Grobbulus for content and they shat it all up, becoming the antithesis of what was supposed to happen on those servers. Artificial, fake, all bullshit. RP-PvP servers always suffer the same fate, good in Classic, dead by Cata to become 'just another PvP server'.
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>>502885332
Okay this is actually true and I knew this but why did you post the other image showing total deaths that's very misleading? It looked like you were basing your belief on that

Hunter and warlock as the lowest is interesting as these are the classes everyone considers strong and easy. They are recommended to newer players so I wonder how much that influences the results, but how many people playing classic hardcore are new to wow? Quite a few in my experience but is it enough to skew the stats that much? I'm sort of a warlock main and I understand why they die, but does anyone who plays hunter hc want to explain why they're so bad at hitting 60?
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>>502885471
>*WotF in you're path*

nothing personell
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>>502885649
There's no debate, the devs are just retailers and constantly push as far as they can
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>>502884814
Trust me, PvP has it downsides but the tension it creates is one of a kind.

One of my most memorable moments in WoW was questing in Ashenvale while I saw a nearby (PvP flagged) Tauren druid doing the quest which spawns several furlbogs. He was stuck in bearform and slowly but surely losing the fight. I hopped over to help him, making sure he still got the tags. We both had to use everything to survive, pots, kiting, bandaging. Eventually we kill the last spawn with both a sliver of health left. We both look at eachother, /salute to eachother at almost the exact same and both go our own seperate way.

Now I could've just jumped him and get a free HK. But stuff like this is what makes PvP servers so much better than PvE ones. Without that constant underlying tension moments like that simply do not exist on PvE realms.
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>>502883123
because its trash. you could delete it from the game and hardly anyone would notice until its time to have someone grab the flag in wsg
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You will remember to workout while leveling...right anon? You don't wanna end up like picrel do you?
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fuck you blizzard

dual spec before i can play troll warlock

bullshit bitch
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>>502885471
Is premade AV possible in classic?
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>>502885401
shaman are generally less retarded about hitting their heal buttons
paladin has consistently attracted the most absurdly autistic player base in this game
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>>502885649
Here are some changes they should do
>give shamans totem recall
>that mage talent that freezes stuff sometimes when you slow it you should be able to toggle on and off
That's it. Wa la.
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>>502885742
its the same process that got us retail in the first place. back then, it was people whinging on the forums. now it is reddit. history repeats itself
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>>502884654
No. The 2 tanks of a guild occupy positions number #2 and #3 in the power structure of the guild. GMs and officers must be very careful to select trustworthy, good players. A tank quitting, or worse, attempting to mutiny for whatever reason, will 100% destroy your guild. Many, many guilds have split and died because of stuff like this.
They are also the most important members in terms of attendance, game knowledge, and skill. A shit tank WILL ruin your entire raid.

In other words, you aren’t gonna make it.
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>>502885853
Did he died?
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>>502885857
>troll warlock

no one wants this.
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>>502885853
i will simply not eat while leveling
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>>502885742
>da retail boogeyman
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i was just reminded of spamming seed of corruption in AV on my kara geared lock in retail TBC
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>>502885954
get a loada' this nigger
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>>502885853
I have an under desk treadmill, it’s actually incredible for playing wow. I get 2hrs of walking in a day now for free
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>>502885954
NTA but I want this
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>>502885917
I don't understand the point you're trying to make
I'm dps and am willing to tank dungeons
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>>502886037
>SoD never happened
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>>502885721
Two factors.

A.
Overconfidence. Hunter and Lock both can easily handle +4 mobs. Until you can't. They pull that one mob too much which happens to net.
B.
Defense rating. Their pet is tanking everything. Meaning they don't level their defense. Meaning they get Crushing Blow'ed and blown up by the lowest of mobs eventually.
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>>502886075
>>502886095
Trolls have dark lore and warlock is like the most natural fit for them I'm surprised they weren't able to play them on launch though I would personally go orc or undead anyway.
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>>502886075
>>502886095
>muh heckin beserkerino!!

go play PVE on retail, you retarded faggots
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>>502886081
standing desk? not a fan. i just plan to take 1 hour break everyday and do cardio on my home bike.
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>>502885954
>uhhh you le can’t be warlocks even doe trolls are all about da voodoo
Berserking is bis though
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>>502885649
only on reddit and the forums. the majority of the playerbase aren't active there.
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>>502886213
Who said anything about racials? I just like playing as a troll
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>>502886220
Everyone who did the standing desk meme gave up on it
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>>502886050
yeah, reminds me of a time I also spammed my seed of corruption ;))))))
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>>502886187
Ya the overconfidence thing is what it is I think. Warlocks are running around fighting 5 things while smashing themselves with lifetap every couple of casts.

I also think that both being pet classes means there's a level of complexity that breaks wow boomer brains in hc. It's a lot easier to wipe your group and get yourself killed or do something really stupid when you're not focused on what your pets doing properly
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>>502886308
poor taste anon play alliance
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>>502886160
who can forget about classic plus?
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trannies are mentally ill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlrx04UGk50
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>>502886134
>willing to tank dungeons
I sure hope so lol. Every tank is a warrior. Why am I, as a warrior, going to invite another warrior? It’s just more loot competition for no reason.
Also tanking dungeons is piss easy just press tab.
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>>502886308
>oh he's a muh immersion faggot

hahahah

>>502886246
no one cares about PVE, go play retail
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>>502885809
I roll on PvP servers to either hide in stealth or use terrain to hide because I like the thrill of playing it like a stealth action game. If they find me, I'm done for
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>>502886351
>>502886187
Oh and maybe feign death is a factor. You can feel invincible but it does resist (unlike vanish) and that will often get you straight up killed doing something you wouldn't have done without feign death. Just speculating as I've never played hunter but I do all sorts of extremely risky stuff on rogue with no fear since I can always vanish. If hunter players think the same, usually they'll be fine, but over enough time eventually the bad resist will happen
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>>502886421
yes. the post I was responding to was about dps warriors sitting in lfg forever because they're unwilling to tank. the subject was never about raid tanking
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>>502886368
Troll is simply the best race
>>502886445
Put the goalpost back where it is
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Can someone just screenshot their addons folder so I know what to get? NO ricing though
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgwHw7qT4ws
>horde trannies make horde only guide even though theres guide for all races
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Bears are better dungeon tanks than warriors. Especially early on.
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>>502886445
>the game is stupidly easy dogshit easiest game on earth for unskilled retards because so easy that hahahahhaa that anyone can clear the raids that are so easy that it's 20 years old and potato computers so easy
>but you also shouldn't play the race you like the look or theme of because that's not min max
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>>502886308
mad
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where are people seeing the new server names, is it only ptr or something?
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i remember they had these in the PTR a few months back, are these ingame or no?
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>>502886869
What other race/class combos fit well enough they should have been included?
>human hunter
Actual lore examples and legitimately makes no sense they don't exist
>anything else?
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fuck >>502886869 meant for >>502886213

AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GIVE IT TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>502886620
>best race gets genocided all through vanilla, tbc, wrath and cata
>hunched over because they're lazy and high
>vol'jin gets mogged in legion
>cant be warlocks
>the best r-ACK!
yeah, sure is the best race alright. play humans, the best race there is.
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>>502885296
Yeah.
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Why are you guys telling paladins to wear the dress so aggressively? I just looked at the dress and it looks great, what's the problem here?
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>>502887115
added to the harem
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>>502887062
>male humans run in
>female humans too sexy and attract too many troons and legitimately annoying players
Still one of the better races
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>>502886845
Always have been.
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>nublizz gave us warmode before undead paladins
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>>502887115
good girl
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>>502887062
>8 races to choose from
>literally pick "human"

i can't imagine a more insufferable faggot than a human player. you could've literally picked 2 alliance races with real-world disabilities, or a decent looking elf thing, and still those are better choices than "human"

lol. lmao
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>>502883526
>perma raid slot
can confirm, back in 2019 a guild was pugging members for their 1st mc run, and they needed a druid. as a fresh 60 druid with patchwork gear I whispered the guy and got invited. I'd never done mc before but they had and the
run was smooth. some difficult on rag, but w/e.
long story short stuck it out with them and we killed KT. 2-3 druids is probably about optimal because having at least 2 hibernates for the dragonkin in bwl after vael makes things smooth, and if you only have 1 the raid seems to know it will drop extra druid gear to be sharded
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>"Added in 1.15.2 SoD"
I don't give a FUCK what the tranny devs put into that malformed tumor of a funserver. Remove this shit from the vanilla index you WoWhead trannies. You literally took out the equivalent of a giant shit onto your entire wiki.
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>>502887030
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>>502887184
>don't like playing female characters that are too attractive looking
>make night elf male druid
>casting animation
>model looks fucking retarded
>make female nelf druid
>don't really like it because it's too perfect pretty and not what I'd play in a fantasy game
>Tauren look like shit, esp in caster gear, male and female
Maybe this contributes to noone playing druids. They don't have a good race to play as
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Monofaction servers only happen when there are multiple servers to choose from.
People create a horde server and an alliance server.
Combined, the faction balance is fairly split.
Therefore faction split will be naturally balanced on a single server with no other servers as an option.
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>fem human only has one hairstyle with a middle part
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I present to you: The NA PvP server discord right now. Total autism thunderdome.

https://youtu.be/whIIU3F2BKQ?si=LlG2U534IQK_R3oz

I hate these people so much it's unreal.
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>>502887254
>real-world disabilities
>dwarf and gnome
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>>502887213
>could have been an opportunity to finally give us Dwarf Mages since they were feature complete and were actually able to be selected in the beta
>original boxed manuals still shipped saying you could pick dwarf mage
>still haven't because uh.... fuck you I guess
Fucking travesty honestly.
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>>502882148
Oh yeah? Prove it.
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>>502887356
Meh, I don't like dwarf for caster. I couldn't play an alliance priest because I hate dwarf caster enough to never want to play it
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>>502887448
your gay ass is involving yourself in this drama lmao
quit acting like you ain't one of them
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>>502882148
I agree but in a way that isn't gay
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>>502887030
>human hunter
Don’t be stupid. How is a human meant to learn how to hunt animals? That’s just unnatural.
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>>502887213
>Give Horde Palas now
>Still can't balance racial or add Hyjal to the game
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>>502887448
What is it about discord that makes everyone who uses it a tranny or weirdo semi ironic internet homo/disgusting fetishist?
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>>502887170
Your favorite one I hope
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>>502887213
>classic warmode
wut
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>>502887705
the same power that 4chan has
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ok, but like
How can trolls be mages and not warlocks? Feels like they just gave trolls mage so that horde would have more than 1 option for mage
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>>502887705
im in plenty of discords with normal, IRL friends. i think you're just an anti-social no-friend faggot who's jealous of people that can actually speak in public settings
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>>502887846
Out of the options they have troll mage does make the most sense though, but ya it doesn't make much sense
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Me right and my healslut left.
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invite me 2 ur premade
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>>502887395
This.

Blood Elves should've been able to play as druid. They could've had a unique catform with the lynx.
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If you decline my group inv for a quest cause your SSFag on fresh FUCK YOU.
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>living off-grid innawoods
>fire lit in my wood stove
>playing on a school laptop instead of my desktop to conserve power
what class do I play?
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>>502887936
Why would you be in "plenty" of discords with your irl friends? I'm in one discord with them. And I'm not talking about people who sometimes use discord as a convenient way to voice chat. I'm talking about habitual users of discord as social media.
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>>502887846
IT'S SIMPLE! Blizzard panicked as fuck.
Same was with Draenei, they were literally rushed as fuck to the game. See TBC alpha.
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>>502887705
A giant audience and semi-anonymity
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>>502888094
>innwoods
hunter or druid obviously

if slavic or balkan, mage
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do all "semi-hc" raid guilds demand that you are engineering? one i was gonna apply for on the pvp server had that as a requirement and i really cbf with that shit
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>>502888102
>Why would you be in "plenty" of discords with your irl friends

i have different friend groups and not all of them know each other or care to have semi-strangers join
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>>502887846
Becoming a warlock requires specific knowledge of Fel stuff. This knowledge is not widespread.
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>>502888173
You get that on 4chan and reddit and people aren't as trooned out on either site. Reddit normies may insist you validate troons but they aren't degenerate troons themselves. 4chan is mixed between trooning out and hating them.
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>>502887846
Blizzard rushed things.
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>>502888002
God I wish that were me
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Let's see if woahwseegee is as knowledgeable as they say:

What class can get 1800+ armor from equipping a mere two trinkets?
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>>502888301
And the arcane doesn’t? How’d they even learn how to be mages? Humans didn’t even have mages before the elves taught them.
You’d think the Orcs that they got all buddy-buddy with could show them how to do warlock shit, at least.
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>>502882305
Warrior is by far the top parsing a DPS
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>>502888247
You have that many different groups of irl friends who are all socially connected via discord because they're all gamers that you need plenty of discords to communicate with them all? I find that odd. I have a few social circles myself and the one that plays games is the one I'd talk to on discord. Do you have any friends or coworkers who aren't gamers as well? Are you in regular contact with hundreds of friends anon?
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>>502888432
mage
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>muh heckin parserinos
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>>502882434
>No tags like "chill run" or "learning"
How does Blizzard fail this often?
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REALOAD BATTLE.NET PATCH DROPPED ! YOU CAN RESEVE NAMES
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>>502882434
Thanks, I was wondering what it looks like. Turtle WoW just added one and I looked at it out of curiosity to see if it was going to be the same
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>>502887448
>activate windows
retard
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>>502888432
Bear Durid obviously, thanks to armor multiplier. 4.784x with talents.
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>>502883757
Your so super low dps your hellfire isn't almost instantly destroying vw sac.
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>>502885809
99% of wow players couldn't understand a single thing you just wrote. The way you think and act would be entirely foreign to them
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>>502888556
The murloc icon is there so players can self-identify as a new player.

I'm going to always pick one of those up in my groups and pull wall to wall so they learn the hard way lol.
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>>502888497
kek yes anon, its really not that difficult of a concept

>Do you have any friends or coworkers who aren't gamers as well?
plenty

>Are you in regular contact with hundreds of friends anon
between mostly online and mostly real-world interactions, it's definitely a lot. maybe not "hundreds", but this isn't really that remarkable

I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, but most people with well-adjusted social lives have several friend groups across different interests
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level as affliction or demonology on a pvp server?
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>>502888229
no, "semi-hc" just means any guild between super casual and super hardcore, which is basically every single guild
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>>502885471
No, the only thing you need to do in AV is dot everything in sight. Maybe a couple rain of fires to push retards back who don't realize they could just stand in it and basically take no damage. Which is almost everybody, so it's very effective.
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>>502889075
demonology is the pvp spec
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>>502888937
The last thing you wrote is normal. Several friend groups across different interests. Several friend groups across playing video games who are all irl friends is what's strange to me. I think you're talking about your internet friends and claiming they're irl friends. Basically noone I could meet irl (at the age of 33) through work or social activities would have a clue what discord even is. My friends who play wow and other video games habitually all use discord, so I communicate with them there.
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>>502889075
Destruction and Searing pain shit to ashes.
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>>502888680
haha
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Leveling spots with this level of soul?
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>>502889145
wouldnt nuking people with an immolate -> conflag -> shadowburn spec be better than dotting?
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>>502889268
teldrassil
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>>502885861
>Is premade AV possible in classic?
You can coordinate five-man group queues in discord and get lucky. When it pops, everyone who got the pop up says invoice they got it. If a lot of people say they got it at the same time then you go in. It was just like one dude then you drop queue and try again.
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>>502889268
the first night elf cave
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>>502889268
east duskwood, trying to farm spider silk for the spidersilk boots tailoring blues
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thoughts on troll vs orc vs tauren for shaman resto/ele hybrid pvp. Orc obviously the best but i feel like troll and tauren are pretty equal and honestly not that much worse than orc.
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>>502889263
is that gonna be hour long? does it mean if i go sleep i lost my name reserves because every bot has taken them
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>>502886620
Troll is the worst model in all of gaming. I purposely avoid it even when the racials would be the absolute ideal for my plans. The model literally makes me ill to look at it.
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>>502889075
Neither
https://youtu.be/Fh1wVvAy4es?si=14hU1Hjhs8ojPUyQ
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>>502889436
it's usually only for 15-30 minutes but who knows what they're doing this time to prepare for it
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>>502889476
>world of roguecraft
absolute kino.
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>>502889476
>level 60 spec
>for leveling
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>>502889448
you cannot mean this anon troll is cool as fuck
please tell me you meant to put gnome there
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>>502882117
<MANDATE OF HEAVEN>
>FRESH EU HORDE

What you can expect:
>Loot for performance/attendance/enchanted pre-raid bis
>Extremely relaxed atmosphere but high performing raids (No PTR, split runs, preclearing or other cringe)
>Experienced leadership that have cleared all vanilla content
>Weekly world bosses and experience/support with PVP ranking (Multiple Scarab Lords and Rank 14's)
>Active 8 year community both in and outside of the game
>Cleared every content on Blizzard classic from Ragnaros to the Lich King HC

What you can NOT expect:
>Guild collapsing before: U̶B̶R̶S̶ ̶/̶ ̶M̶C̶ ̶/̶ ̶T̶W̶O̶ ̶R̶A̶I̶D̶S̶ ̶/̶ ̶B̶W̶L̶ AQ!
>Some prolific /wpsg/ and /wowg/ shitposters, they're all banned
>Meme specs

All classes and races welcome to join as long as you're /vg/!


DM manlet#6994 for more information.

https://discord.gg/6HC5MCSNnn
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>>502889268
Ashenvale is the most soulful zone in the game
>>502889435
Orc female is really good for shaman imo, and while orc male (I think) looks terrible on its default wolf mount, orc female looks very good
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>>502888903
Oh damn, well that's good then.
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>>502889435
for pvp tauren > orc >> troll
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>>502889610
have u got positions open for femboy discord kittens?
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>>502889610
>recruits on discord and in trade chat
>/vg/ guild
fuck off stop spamming tranny
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>>502889476
literally every 2004 pvp video uses engineering.
why do people act like pserfs figured anything out about this game lmao everybody knew it back in 2004.
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>>502889448
you sound like a fag
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>>502889210
>I think you're talking about your internet friends and claiming they're irl friends.

no i actually know them IRL and will occasionally meet with them. they hangout in separate discords because they all dont necessarily know each other

>Several friend groups across different interests
again, this really isn't that difficult. I do more than play video games all day, and my interests outside of that also come with a separate friend group. am i seriously introducing you to the concept of having different groups of friends?

>"no one i know has a clue what discord is"
ok
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>>502889610
>Horde
yep not interested.
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>>502889610
I tried to apply for this guild and they declined me because I wouldn't shave my legs
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>>502889557
Affliction is best for levelling then, how is this even a question? Demo is fucking awful in comparison
>>502889576
He's right, troll is horrible
>female troll rogue dual wielding animation
Males are bad too but this looks like some pre alpha shit they accidentally left in the game
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>>502889610
I see you deleted the no trannies section again.
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>>502889075
>level as affliction or demonology on a pvp server?
Get nightfall and the shadow dmg increase one. Don't bother with dark pact. Then either get soul burn from destro, or go demo far enough to get instant pet cast (think of it as an extra voidwalker to sacrifice if a rogue has you against the ropes).
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>>502889778
>source: dude trust me
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>>502889610
Can Prot Palas join?
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>>502889951
cope. stop recruiting here you're not a /vg/ guild
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>>502889321
Yeah that's more fun, but in terms of winning large group conflicts, if you're not nuking the healers, then just spreading dota is probably more effective. Boring as shit tho.
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>>502888680
Liar
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>>502890074
rope
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>>502889795
You're introducing me to the concept of having several different groups of irl friends who all use discord and play online games, yes.

I believe you're lying and are referring to your many different friend groups of discord trannies you met online.
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>>502890074
seethe dad gamer
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>>502890175
cope
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How comfy is Bear leveling for Druid?
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Druidbros on the PvP realm:

Remember the Green Pact. We do not attack each other. If you see an opposite faction druid pouncing, ravaging, shredding and moonfire spamming some unfortunate mook to pieces you look the other way and mind your own business. We're all brothers and sisters of Moonglade in the end. Let's the weak cityfolk races cull eachother off as we profi-I mean restore balance.
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>>502890330
that's only a thing from 10-20.
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>>502890373
Added to the Harem.
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Warrior's stance mechanics are annoying and stupid.
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ok what exactly is a "meme" spec and why? please support your answers with examples
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>>502890330
damage fall off badly
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>>502890373
What emotes work?
Is /stare one?
Something that express this face when seeing that
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>>502890562
can't tank, can't heal, can't dps.
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>>502890325
Why? 99% of people walking around over the age of 20 wouldn't know what discord was if you asked them. You got spergy when I described discord (accurately) as a place dominated by weird autistic tranny weirdo freaks. You apparently have tons of different irl friend groups you associate with on discord. That's bullshit anon. This is 4chan, I don't care I'd you're a weirdo who's entire social life is people you met on discord but don't lie to me about it please.
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I'm thinking about waiting to join a guild until I hit 60 and inevitably get invited to one from healing a UBRS or something.
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>>502890562
Any Tank that's not Warrior
Any Healer that's not Priest or Pala
Mages, Warriors and Warlocks can only DPS
One Rogue to buff Warrior DPS
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>>502890637
/whistle
/surrender
/kneel
/beg
/rear
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>>502890562
Smite Priest, Ret, Boomkin, Enhance, etc.
Non viable specs with extremely limited usefulness.
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>>502890707
I'm definitely not joining one before the game starts.
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>>502890562
Something where the appeal is the uniqueness or "fun" rather than performance. Destruction warlock for levelling, shadow priest for raiding, survival hunter, arcane mage, etc
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I wanna go feral this time, but fuck farming Pummelers. That, or maybe I will try enhancement shaman for once
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>>502889610
where is she ?
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>>502889436
realmlist is up now, not sure if they will actually open them for registration
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>>502891009
meme specs are never fun in pve
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>>502890415
Can you say that for sure or does nobody try because of Cat form?
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>>502890862
>>502890707
Same, that pvp disco community video anon linked is telling
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>>502891040
They already announced they won't do name reserves or anything.
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>>502891146
That's what they said but can you really trust blizzard.
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>>502891040
How the fuck are you guys seeing this? EU only?
All I have is seasonal and era
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>>502890562
Anything that isn't a meta spec for raiding.
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>>502891236
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>>502891212
Well nah guess you can't but you refresh it 40 hours in a row then brother, I don't give a shit if I don't get to call myself Sneed or some other shit
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>>502891114
Why would you level in a form that does 1/4 damage as cat?
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Get ready for absolute cringe-kino:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tvnMZpnHDP4

This was WoW's Faker back in the day kids
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>>502891098
>Meme specs
Opinion disregarded. Your tantrum didn't stop me back in 2019, and won't stop me now. I WILL master loot your shit and watch you seethe
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>>502891236
EU maintenance is going on right now, yes.
>>502891367
No, this is regular EU realms,
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>>502891467
>15 fps
>keyboard turning
>spam clicking starshards
>ganking lowbies
based
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how the fuck do i get gold as a shaman
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>>502891471
>implying I will be joining any groups or raids with memespecs, especially one as RL
ok retard
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>>502891446
Because I can?
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>>502891842
You know how anon...
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Only thing they could announce to make this fresh sweeter is 33% experience squish 1-60
>noooooo you have to grind mobs for 7 days played
Why? Would it be any worse if you only had to do that for 4 days played?
>incoherent autistic screaming
Didn't catch that, and I'm off to work actually skip, hope things pick up for you some day.
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>>502891842
GDK- oh wait...
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>>502891467
>LIVE TO WIN
>TILL YOU DIE
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>>502891842
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>>502882307
Why didn't you two hook up
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>>502892114
>33%

Make that 50% and I’m in
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lesson learned from 2019 classic: never group with a paladin, even a holy paladin. they will pull some stupid nigger bullshit like needing on everything. i'll take a priest or druid healer thanks
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>>502892037
Go for it, I'm just telling you why noone does this. Cat does 4x the damage and moves 30% faster. You can level without equipping any gear or whatever too there's just no point
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Question. Why do people install a third party app to manage addons for this game when it takes 2 seconds to install them manually?
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>>502892287
>2 seconds
you know this isn't true
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>>502892287
Never understood this either

Even my “tech savvy” friends still use that retarded curseforge app
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>>502892287
>never updates
>never gets new addons
>never removes old addons
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>>502892203
You drive a hard bargain...
>deal
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>>502892114
Enjoy slaving away Mr wagie, thanks for being a good golem
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>>502891503
NA maintenance just happened doe
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>>502892114
>Why can't they make it so we can skip the game?
Uwatm8
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>>502892287
to manage addon not manually
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>>502892287
>why would anyone use an app that allows for searching a database of addons and installing with 1 click that also let's you update them seamlessly with 1 click
I dont know anon I guess they're all stupid people compared to you
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>>502892524
>grinding the same fucking mobs for only 200 hours instead of 250 is “skipping”

You’re a stupid nigger
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>>502889850
No, it's straight. Expesially if you pretend to be one IRL.
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Spriests will be good this time

Every guild will beg me to cast Vampiric Embrace for them
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>>502892616
sounds like retail is more your tea, friend
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>>502892524
>instead of killing 1000 mobs in the zone you instead have to kill 750, and you have to do it for as many classes as you want to play
>this is bad for some reason
The game isn't new to anyone. I've experienced it all. Faster levelling would be good, actually
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>>502892715
I haven’t played retail since MoP though

Problem?
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>>502892681
lol, do we tell her?
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>>502892287
I think it's only due to constant updates for some of them. Otherwise, yeah, unnecessary bloatware at best, borderline spyware at worst
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>>502892287
it's not to install, it's more because the updating is easier than installing a third, fourth, etc time. every damn patch is new lua errors it's fucking asinine.
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>>502892176
>player housing looks like THAT!!???
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is there an NA guild for fresh?
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god i can't fucking wait to gank fresh sissies and dads
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>>502892996
No
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>>502892923
I just manually disable lua errors from every appearing. Game has been warning me for months there's like 500 problems and nothing bad has ever happened
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I am a tall, proud white man and I deserve a biological female girlfriend to play classic with
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>>502893101
based single mom maxing
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>>502892616
>I like retail
Ok
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Orc
Fem (futa)
Warrior
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>>502893171
I can't imagine anything more fun than playing wow hc with my wife and kids
>probably why they'll never exist
And a bit of pic related
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>>502893262
>I have autism and I HAVE to kill the same mobs for 10 days played

K keep me posted
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I'd be down for a fresh classic with only 10% XP. Would take a year to doing 60. 90% of your playtime would be grinding mobs.
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>>502893381
Sounds amazing
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>>502893348
moo2 is my legacy game of choice.
but homm3 is based too.
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I made a qt
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>>502893252
By fire be purged!
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>>502893445
she looks like she fucks night elven men
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>>502893262
>>502892715
>one response
Braindead retards

Not only should there be an experience squish, all players and npcs should run 15% faster. You can't describe anything wrong with this genuinely without resorting to calling it retail when I call it "faster better classic" and you lose the argument
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>>502893381
Good idea, but let's skip all those bullshit quests and revert them all in collecting bear asses.

Go collect 10.000 bear asses for me. Thanks adventurer! Here's a green +1 Int +2 Agility Cloak!
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>>502893551
Just add flying with no cast time bro
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how long until they add the barbershop?
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>>502893551
Oh fuck you just reminded me how much walking there is until 40

Fuck even throne and liberty gave us travel forms and fast travel points on day 1
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>>502893627
>I can't directly explain what's the problem with your suggestion so here's something bad that you want which is entirely different and actually bad
Legitimately brain damaged
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>>502893551
Just go play an extraction shooter or whatever shit you weird ass wageslaves play, you don't enjoy this game so why spend time here? Shoo
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>tfw you're still bouncing between factions and classes
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>>502893741
>I can't directly explain what's the problem with your suggestion so here's something bad that you want which is entirely different
Every time lol
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>>502893336
How hung?
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Just release WoW2 and start us off around WC1 and WC2 with some altered timeline shenanigans like Gul'Dan trying to summon the Legion from the Tomb of Sarg, Qiraji + Nerubian team up to conquer northern and southern Kalimdor, Dragon Soul A vs H raid with a neutral ending where the dragons swoop in and tell everyone to fuck off while leaving with it.

Do alternate WC2, WC3, and Classic WoW antics. Make Kalimdor an expansion or something, do meme shit like the Alliance ed boys recruiting the tauren and the Horde edd boys recruiting concept art NE savages as Gromm described. Maybe Nerzul doesn't fuck Draenor or doesn't become Lich King, lots of dumb shit to branch into.

Get us back to the god damn basics of Warcraft, not the god of undeath being a tranny and other dumb shite. End WoW1 with the Infinite Dragon idiots literally suicide bombing the timeline to make WoW2, they're the perfect vehicle for it.

Orc, Gobbos, Amani Trolls, smaller Ogres vs Humies, Dwarf, Gnome, High Elf.
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>>502893348
mmo based on homm when ?
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>>502893348
kino
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>>502893741
Why do you autistic faggot always chimpout at the suggestion that maybe the game shouldn’t be a sluggish grindfest to get to 60?

How about this, blizz implements 2x for whoever wants to use it, and you can stay in elwynn and kill as many boars as you want for as long as you want

Retard
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>>502893905
Designing the game for retards who don't even have time to play is a bad idea, now kys
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where are the servers my niggers
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>>502893983
blizzard doesn't have the human capital to do that and you know it
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>>502882951
hardcore barely requires fresh. it's kept fresh year-round by virtue of being hardcore. there are always new people leveling, or people who have died going again.
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>>502889939
>Don't bother with dark pact
Why do people here say this? Every single Drain Tanking build I see for leveling uses it.
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Anyone remember that all dwarf and gnome RP-PVP guild on original classic? How did they do throughout the years? Love giant organized RP-PVP battles. Shame it's not a thing here
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Transmog would be good for the game and promote side play that would be enjoyable and fun
>that's bad because low level characters can look like high level characters
Agreed! Lock certain transmog options to prestige achievements and specified level ranges
>that's bad because it's retail
No, it's still classic but with cool character customization that promotes gameplay that isn't collecting bear asses and raid logging
>THATS BAD THATS BAD THATS BAD THATS BAD THATS RETAIL TJARS BAD THATS RETAIL THATS BAD RETAIL THATS BAD *shits self*
*backs away slowly*
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>>502893252
I posted that pic once to asmongoloid on twitter he insta blocked me. makes me kek that he had to see the pic.
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>>502894253
you're reducing your pets dps by using it. just life tap
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>>502894129
Go beg on Reddit maybe they'll do it for you
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>>502894129
There's already an ez mode leveling classic mode
Go play SoD
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>>502894413
>this mad

lol
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>>502894053
When the demiurge loses control of its slave simulation of gods perfected reality
>>502894130
>4 days played to max isn't NEARLY ENOUGH *shits self*
*backs away slowly keeping a persistent eye on the retard, likely a danger to themselves and others*
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>>502894253
you should never pay attention to any content creator that advocates for it.
look at the name attached to the guide and blacklist them too.
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>>502894373
Actually nice to hear that it's not necessary. Managing the Lash cooldown and mana of the pet sounds like it'd be annoying as fuck.
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>>502893717
>>502893551

Turtle WoW gives mounts with progressively faster movement speeds as you level
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>>502893775
follow your gut anon. i was like this till today. i finally stopped going back and forth and went with my first choice.
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>>502894226
I agree but it's here so I'll be playing it, and the launch caused my friend group to all want to play hc together so that'll be fun. Half the fun of hc is sharing the experience and seeing the crazy shit that happens
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>>502894313
transmogs would only be acceptable if you could wear them in an allied city. out in the world your appearance should reflect your actual gear
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>servers launch at the exact time I start a weekly Japanese conversation class
>not gonna be home for an hour and a half or so
I guess I won't be grabbing the name I want
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>the year is 2024
>horde still has no ogres
Fuck man
I want ogres in classic plus
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Eu vg guild when?
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>>502893932
10.5
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>>502894513
I'm very happy we're getting fresh, you're the one crying about wanting changes. Maybe a little bit of self awareness would help you out?
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Seriously just announce actual Classic+ now that they have all this stuff under their belt with SoD. Actual fresh prog into new content. It's been long enough.
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>>502894776
They announced it to close to release for me to book Thursday and Friday off so I'm thinking it's FUCKING OVER
>guess I'll wait for next fresh
>>502894718
Why?
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>>502894776
Don't worry I will steal your cringe weeb name and keep it on a level 1 alt I will never ever level
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>grandma's funeral is on launch day
fuck.
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How fun is shaman pvp with the ele/resto spec? will I be able to grab some caster gear while raiding as resto?
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>>502894869
>it's FUCKING OVER
I at least have Fridays off every week so I'm gonna be gaming.
>>502894892
Best of luck, as I don't use a cringe weeb name but rather a Danish nickname I had in the past.
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>can't decide on character appearance
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>>502894825
>dual spec
>instant mail between characters
>no debuff limit
Doesn't seem very fresh. I think you should stick to a classic classic private server with that attitude

I'm going forward with 2x xp. All opposed say whatever you want and influence nothing
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>>502894964
She wouldn't want you to get behind the levelling curve anon
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>>502895026
>2x

How do we meme this into reality? Anyone have a reddit account? I’m sure we can get traction going there
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>>502895026
None of those things you said remove the fresh status of it. Gay as hell changes though sure.
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>>502895286
I meant to say
>not very classic
Obviously
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Why do we allow "them" into Stormwind?
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as rogue what makes you think I want to be invited to dungeon or raid? shut up bitch
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>>502895524
Mark of the Wild
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>>502895567
Now this is some high level cope
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>>502895567
Nice, Perdition's Blade dropped again.

*KKKKKKUH-PING!*
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>erm you le wont find a raid spot
Good players will always find their way into raids. Especially as the #1 and #2 most desired classes of banilla
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>>502895567
any melee come AQ40 that isn't r14 won't be invited to anything
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>>502894867
They can't. SoD was them trying to sprint before they learned to walk. No foundation work and the house collapsed in on itself which is why the people had to move back to Classic Classic.

They need to do season of Balance and attempt to unfuck the broken classes/specs while staying within the purview of Vanilla / Classic.
That's entire classes, specs, buffing raids to compensate for other functional shit existing beyond Warriors, and other changes that need to be created.
If they have extra time to do anything else they'll need work on making the SoD leveling raids functional without the retail bologna abilities that SoD added to players.

SoD is literally just a Fun server, it has some shit that can and should be part of Classic+ but so much of it needs unfucked from a foundational level. Tossing retail and vanilla wow into a blender doesn't fix a fucking thing properly.
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wowcg's fav action bar addon?
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>>502895969
Those are for troons
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>>502895891
Problem with sod is the people who make new stuff at blizzard are all troons, women, and fat fucking retards. Not a scrap of intelligence left at the company
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>>502895641
>>502895693
lol bald headed trannies think I care about dungeons and raids go lose some more hair retards
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LF4M RFD I am roge and can open chest!!!
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>>502894867
sod poisoned the well on classic+
the only reason fresh is happening at all is because aggrend is a retard
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>>502895969
GW2 addon, don't @ me
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So if I go something like this for leveling a Warlock, what's better to go into next, Demo or Destro? PvP server btw. I know SM/Ruin is good at max level, but no clue about while leveling.
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>vanilla niggers genuinely think there's nothing wrong with this
lel
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POST YOU'RE CHARACTERS FOR FRESH
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>>502896541
wtf you guys told me classic wasn't woke look at this DEI face
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>hey enh shaman here inv pls
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>>502896476
bro just finish copying the guide that gave you this shitty template.
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>>502896541
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MALE

ORC

BALD

WARLOCK
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>>502896639
>I'm the enh shammy
>LFM RFK
>invite bear tank
>invite invite non-shaman healer
>invite non-shaman/warrior/hunter dps
>loot axe
its as simple as that.
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>>502896682
What's wrong with the template? Also, I'm asking here because people specifically argued against Dark Pact, which is a staple in every single Warlock related post I could find.
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>>502896728
based Gul'dan larper
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>>502895891
I'd be down for a Season of Balance™ that actually fixes the shit specs/itemization, assuming they were to of course go forward with C+.
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why are hc realms down
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>>502896541
tick tock, humie, my rogue is coming for you.
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>>502896928
They got down with the sickness
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>>502896928
I wanted to play my practice hunter a bit :(
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>>502896964
>not a green or purple mohawk
Come on bro.
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>>502896964
>*Faerie Fires you*
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>>502896497
if it's hybrids at the top? non hybrids complain
non hybrids at the top? hybrids complain
best part about Vanilla is it (SHOULDN'T) care about complainers because it is what it is and can't be changed. unfortunately in the hands of the faggot nu-devs, they've opened the floodgates of change by capitulating to complainers.
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>>502896801
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow-classic/affliction-warlock-leveling-talent-build-from-1-to-60
you need to go out of your way to find a guide that says to get dark pact. stop. no top search result tells you to get it.
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How does Classic WoW work? I never got to actually do any of the expansions when I played in Legion. Just a few quests deep and once I got enough levels I was out.
Mist of Pandaria Classic comes out in the summer and I REALLY want to play that. I'm not particularly interested in raiding in classic, BC, WotLK, Cata, but I want to play through all of them. Are all these Classics of the expacs, stand alone things or if I get Cata classic is it literally just WoW as of catas release, so Cata + everything else? Sorry I really don't know anything. I want to play every expansions story, but outside of MoP I'm not interested in raiding really
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why blizzard so bad at plugging in server cables
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>>502896964
>death coils you
>immolate, conflag, shadowburn
>dead
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>>502896964
>forsaken, despite being human literally like 2 years ago base their entire civilization around cruel experiments and psychotic plague and mind control technology
>they're all like this with no exceptions
>even though those humans are their former relations, friends, society, etc
>Blizzard never put it together that what really happened is sylvanas' (an elf) will woke them up and is now influencing/controlling them in the same way the lich kings did
>instead write her as an annoying girl boss who never loses and the forsaken still make 0 sense as a race
These faggots could hire me but won't
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>>502897161
Both WoWhead and Dive (the main guy promoting Drain Tanking) say to get Dark Pact. I'm also biased against Icy Veins from the Legion days because their Death Knight pages had information that was flat out wrong, so I rarely check their stuff.
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>>502897114
the hair is an extension of my bones.
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>>502896728
>bald
Pathetic
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>>502897354
nigga u fukin bald anyway
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>>502897304
>muh lore

NO ONE WITHOUT AUTISM CARES
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>>502897307
Dark pact is 1 fucking talent point and is very useful sometimes just get it

What would you even be giving up to get dark pact? What 1 (one) talent point is so important?
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>>502897197
Yes it's WoW as of Cata's release.
There's also another set of server stuck at the end of Vanilla (Classic Era).
Fresh classic vanilla progression servers open on thursday.
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Which class is the most fun in both vanilla and TBC? I feel like the best classes in vanilla aren’t that great in TBC and vice/versa, except maybe Warlock? Which one strikes the best balance
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>>502897430
>multiple lore video channels getting like 500k views on all videos even though the lore is usually bad
If they hired me those videos would get 500 million views
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>>502895883
This time. This time it'll be different
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>>502897446
I'm aware it's just one point. However, with how people here have been repeatedly saying to not get Dark Pact, it might be the case that it's actually not really worth using. I have no idea, because I've never played a Warlock in Vanilla. If they were being sincere and Dark Pact is unnecessary, then I might as well grab something else.
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>>502896541
Is that guy >>502896964 bothering u?
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>>502897556
>warlock
You already know the answer brother

I'll be transferring my hc warlock to classic when it's about to go to tbc :)
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>>502897307
>it's real
this is your wowhead classic guide writer.
just go watch the staysafe video.
punkrat.
kargoz.
crix.
there's a reason these people have viewers.
>dive
literally who?
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>>502896497
there's nothing wrong with this since it's only relevant for speedrunning content
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>>502895969
I'm ready to go home again
https://github.com/Fiurs-Hearth/WIIIUI?tab=readme-ov-file
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>>502897401
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>>502897765
>me orc
>pisses in fountain
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>>502897556
warrior
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>>502897765
that's actually badass
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>>502897765
Soul? In my Vanilla UI?
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>>502897613
Well dark pact isna way to get some mana when you don't want to lifetap. On my hardcore warlock I use it to drain remaining mana from my voidwalker before I sacrifice it to resummon another one (when it's at low hp/mana), when I can't life tap, or when my void is at 100% mana and I want to trigger his regen and give some to myself, and when I'm fear soloing elite mobs and void isn't doing anything so not using any mana

There's no pvp on hc, but I can imagine situations in which you need enough mana to death coil but you can't lifetap

It has some uses. It's one point. Get it imo
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>>502897735
it DIDN'T FUCKING SNAPSHOT CORRECTLY! >>502897307
a retail player wrote the guide is my point.
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>>502897735
I've generally stayed off YouTube for stuff like this because of the sheer amount of idiots who make videos on every single class. Thanks for the recommendations.
>literally who?
Main guy I found being linked to in discussions about Drain Tanking. He has a Google doc guide for it. Just assumed he was the main guy sharing it with how often I saw his name mentioned.
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>>502897790
>bottom left
class for this feel
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>>502897304
>the forsaken still make 0 sense as a race
the whole forsaken starting area covers this. they're a bunch of inhuman zombies who have become monsters and can't feel love anymore
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>>502898104
It never says that. It says they're internally the same as humans but everyone is le mean to them because they're ugly
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>>502898018
brazilian retail player.
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I decided
>Class
>Race
>Gender

Now,
>PvE
or
>PvP
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Isn't the UD racial lore that they tried to reconnect with their loved ones after being freed right after TFT but due to being dead got chased off or killed so they said fuck the world?
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>>502898069
Male Gnome bank alt.
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>SUDDENLY
>SUDDENLY
>I DONT FEEL SO INSECURE
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>>502897867
Oh no, it's too late. This entire moonwell must be purged
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>>502896541
>>502896964
based ugly character enjoyers.
fuck coomers.
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Leveling on ‘eck is comfy
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>>502898368
Yes. But that doesn't explain why all of them are insane and trying to design plagues and horrifying skin shaping technology and mind control and have absolutely no morality anymore

What's really happening, but blizzard doesn't realize, is sylvanas, a formerly ultra high class immortal beautiful elf lost her soul (unlike the forsaken themselves) and now despises the living out of resentment and has only one goal of revenging herself on the lich king and all life using weapons of mass destruction and woke the forsaken and controls them via hive mind like he did. It's the only satisfying lore conclusion for their behaviour
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>>502898391
holy sovlkino
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>niller
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>>502896541
would casca be a warrior or a rogue?
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>>502898179
ply through the undead starting area and actually read the quests. A number of explicit about it. The chill of death. The one with the ring in southern silverpine. The quest where need collect the hands in aratrhi. The non undead quest in thunderbluff where you have to collect the book in scarlet monetary
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>>502898691
They barely feel positive emotions like happiness or empathy as a consequence of their undeath.
Death Knight explicitly have an innate need to inflict pain and suffering.
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>>502899126
rogue, she needs to be physically weaker than her guts warrior bf
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>>502898691
>What's really happening, but blizzard doesn't realize, is sylvanas
or, they're just a bunch of undead zombies, no le big bad sylvanas headcannon required
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>>502899126
warrior she wasn't never afraid
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>ctrl f vanilla
>19 results
>ctrl f retail
>19 results
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>ping test to battle.net = 58 + no packet loss
>in-game ping = 215
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>>502897510
I see thank you
Does the character I make get used for MoP?
Like is it literally just true WoW being updated or is mop.and the classics supposed to be standalone
I think you just answered this but I'm just making sure
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I don't really enjoy PvP
But I've been mindbroken to think PvE is the game in easy mode.
Will I be able to coast without too much grief as a Horde healer? Alliance are generally more passive, r-right?
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>Chronoboon
>Layers
>Body Types
>Honor changes
>Legion client
>No buff/debuff limit
>Spell batching
>Role Pronouns
>Auto looting
>Dual spec
>Realm clusters
>Modern UI
>PvP ranking changes
vanilla classic totally isnt retail lite btw
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>>502899289
We got big bad sylvanas anyway it might as well not be retarded
>>502899130
I admit I haven't read them in a long time but are you sure that's ever stated? Chill of death is she feels physically cold
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>>502899698
Add 2x experience, meaningful achievements and transmog tied to which (cant just transmog anything) and classic will actually be perfect
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>>502899698
>role pronouns
real?
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>>502899689
it's a different server type.
the cata servers will move on to MoP.
if you start a character on a cata server it'll move on to MoP when that releases.
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I'm installing classic era
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>>502896541
wholly paladong reporting for Fresh
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>>502899696
PvE is the path to fortune and glory with none of the psychopaths from the pvp disc* server
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Why are tryhards, parsers and metagamers still rolling fresh? All you do is complain, it's just a fact of life that the only way to enjoy vanilla wow in the current year is to play cozy and casual.
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>>502899716
>chill of death she feels physically cold
It's so cold, now. The Plague of Undeath crawls through my veins like an icy serpent.

Another example, A Letter Undelivered
>Oh...my poor Thurman! I begged him to leave Agamand Mills with me and my father, but his family loyalty was too strong! And I knew it! I just knew it that Brand meant him harm!! Oh, curse this Plague, and the Scourge!
><Yvette's face then smoothes and grows cold.>
>But regrets are for the weak. As a Forsaken, I have new goals and love is not one of them. I would thank you for delivering this letter, for I had wondered what happened to my past love.
>But that life is over. Forever.

Play through the undead starting area and read the quests rather than clicking through at 100 miles an hour, like we all do now at this point. It's explicit
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>>502900179
Holy pally would be a great spec if it weren't for the buffing in any groups over 5 man
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>>502900259
t. ret pala/enh shaman
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>>502899696
PvE servers are completely fine, don't get baited by people here who just want easy meat to gank
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>>502900265
She's physically cold and the 2nd girl is feeling emotions that are human and suppresses them to get you to kill her former beloved who is now a mindless scourge. This doesn't state or even imply they can't feel anything positive anymore
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>>502900351
Playing cozy doesnt mean playing memespecs. Playing cozy means you don't seethe about how your class can't top meters and how vanilla is a shit game because of that.
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>>502900272
I'm prepared to dew it. I've never actually made it to level cap in this game before (or spent more than like 40 hours in it) and am gonna try to do it this time
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I'm interested in druid but don't want to be a tree after tbc drops forever after, was tree implemented in tbc or was it in wotlk?
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>>502900401
https://youtu.be/MF283pORG2E?si=dJGKB8gBkkqWtCKq
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>>502891467
wow's faker was mute
its zywoo was vurtne
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>>502900259
being a tryhard is fun
the problem is that some people don't enjoy that playstyle but get fomo from the increased game power that tryhard enjoyers get, its one of the central of multiplayer gaming
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>>502900559
Tree is in tbc
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>fixed sleep schedule
>release is midnight in europe
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wowcg groomed me into leveling an hpal
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>>502900265
A Husband's Revenge
>Valdred, once my good friend, was my wife's murderer. Although I am incapable of grieving, I do yearn for revenge. If you kill Valdred and bring me his cursed hands, then I will reward you.
Completion
>Ah, good. These hands killed my wife, Deliah. Revenge for her murder was my only care, and you were the instrument of that revenge.
>Here, take the ring you returned earlier. Deliah has been dead to me for so long, her ring is a bauble I no longer care to keep. Instead, I will keep these hands as a remembrance of my friend's betrayal.

They're undead zombie monsters.
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what skin color number is this?
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>>502899696
PvE is totally fine anon. it's called "normal" for a reason and there's nothing wrong with them
you are missing a totally different element of the game though. like imagine you've done with your raiding for the night, maybe you've done a few bg's too. what else can you do now? go out and farm some gold in the world? keep running bg's or do some DM jump runs?
on a pvp server you could hook up with your buddies and go take the fight to some horde that are running around BRM/SG and blocking the entrance to the mountain. or maybe there's some zombies terrorizing nessingwarys. cool shit like that can never happen on a pve server
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>>502900593
>faker the goat of his pvp game
>mute the goat of long-form comedy pvp videos
How are they similar at all lol?

I'm going hunter but damnit I love rogue and only made one because of roguecraft
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>>502900735
I'm gonna level an hpal but try to do aoe farming late game.
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>>502899696
The server has forced faction and layer balance, if that helps you decide. Having said that, *cchhhhyyyoooooeeeouummm*
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>game called WARcraft
>players split into two hostile factions at WAR with each other
but sure play on the fuzzy wuzzy carebear server where no one can hurt you because it’s against the rules!
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>>502900872
back in the day pvp and comedy were one and the same
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>>502900715
Fuck, thanks, guess I will be deciding between priest or shaman
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>>502900851
yeah, some cool shit like wasting other people's time for zero gain.
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>>502900746
I think this is still too light, but I have the rest of it?
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>>502900946
i mean playing video games is a waste of time anon. its all subjective
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>>502900745
Okay that one's more convincing you might be right then

Based encyclopedic lore knowledge anon
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don't forget to install https://legacy-wow.com/classic-addons/twitchemotes-classic/
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>>502900946
>world pvp isn't cool
>world pvp
https://youtu.be/k1t0A1cqGcw?si=tRvapWezCWOvHav7

https://youtu.be/Fh1wVvAy4es?si=JCOZgtrvwVTVxMEU

https://youtu.be/Mh_cLN66zHA?si=nETPFJkP2TIua0Hb

https://youtu.be/9EjX445JlTQ?si=l3rW6WIkx3usT6-f
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>>502901020
idk i dont wanna get sucked in that much this time
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>>502901306
And make sure you watch roguecraft off YouTube for the best pvp soundtrack of all time
https://youtu.be/c5sdWOwH4rg?si=cz4zq76QGMX-sGeo
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Think people might play Druid with the dual spec shit?

Kind of banking that they don't so I can have it all to myself.
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>>502901573
dual spec provides 0 benefit for druids.
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>>502901648
Most retarded post in the thread including the recent posts about pve servers being good
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>>502885917
>not playing a warrior alt to main tank the alt raid
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even with the faction locking, layer balancing and ensuring people can't transfer off, i still think pvp servers will be a fucking mess and will be the first to "die". pve will have the most players and not only just because all the HC rejects end up there
like instead of it being a repeat of 2019 classic where people transferred off en masse resulting in one sided mega servers, people will just reroll on pve or drop the game entirely. the current day climate just isn't suitable for wpvp anymore. too many psychopaths and no lifers who just derive pleasure from fucking with people as much as possible
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>>502901573
no, I doubt anyone is actually going to change their class just because of dual spec
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LET ME IIINNN
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>>502901695
i'm not playing on a pvp server, rogueFAGGOT
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>>502901748
What dogshit server names.
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>>502901813
Back in the day and to this day you were called carebears
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>>502901885
it's not 2006, grandpa. i'm convinced none of you played in 2019, where pvp servers WERE FUCKING DOGSHIT CLUSTERFUCKS.
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>>502899926
Thank you so much I love you
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>>502901695
ok.
what spec are you raiding in that you couldn't farm or pvp in?
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>>502901710
pvp servers are the only servers that aren't labeled as low pop
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>>502901885
Not any of those anons, but there was a lot less psychopaths and deviants 20 years ago. Not to mention other demographics.

Worst you had to fear was shit talking the wrong person on the forums and they made it their personal obligation to nolife camp or annoy you.
That and the mercenaries who'd kill you like a bounty hunter but that was more of a cool business than anything else.
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>>502882008
Where will N/A realm be located. ? LA or Chicago ?

>t.aussie
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Anon did you find a server on NA PvP Horde?
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>>502902208
these servers shouldn't even exist anymore
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>bald man watched a MARAUDON BORDER PATROL clip
he really needs to STOP LISTENING TO SHITTY MUSIC TO CAPITALIZE ON ALL OF THIS PUBLICITY HE'S GENERATING.
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>>502902208
are they enforcing faction/layering balance there though?
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Is this normal that all the servers are online except the HC ones? Did blizz kill them already?
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>>502902035
Doesn't matter. Playing pve, transferring to pve, or stating anything positive about pve is unacceptable, unaryan, and unnarcumptuous
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uhhh.
are they going to keep the restriction where you can only have one faction on a pvp server when they're only releasing a single pvp server?
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>>502882008
what exactly is that image showing? if u are a rogue, your trinket breaks charms fears and polys but not roots slows and stuns?
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pvp will be the most popular and won't die, but pve will be more populated than in the past.
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>>502882442
It will bring m great pleasure to play hpal pvp so i can eradicate no shoes.
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>>502902548
yes.
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>>502902553
i wish this was like pservers were i didnt have a chance and had to go pvp
but if i roll one or the other i may regret it later for different reasons
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>>502902525
yes
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>>502902452
Blizz said there is something broken or whatever so they shut down HC until they can fix it
Check blue posts
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>>502902263
>THEYRE PSYCHOPATHS
reddit drama queens out in full force
>>502902452
My precious hard core :*(
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4d3e0603-0db2-40f1-9f2f-cba4a12dc29f
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aussie refugee here, i don't have american citizenship or visa or passport but i would like to come in to ur server (pvp) in order to play with you, is that ok? i will join your 4channel.org guild
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>>502902525
Probably yeah. Sucks but the sweaties will pay for 2 subs.
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>>502903002
If you're a girl you have to be my girlfriend and if you're a boy you need to take estrogen and be my girlfriend.
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i haven't regretted playing pve servers but i most certainly have regretting playing pvp
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>>502902704
Pvp can transfer to pve but not the other way around
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>>502903002
only if you know how to banter very good like your brethren
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>>502903002
please do, ausfags are generally more tolerable. i'll even throw in some free pingas and a goon bag
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>>502903272
>Pvp can transfer to pve
Not this time bucko
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>>502903330
Good lol. Trap the reddit sissies and kill them like the rats they are
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>>502902548
>>502902804
Can I convince a priest to sell me their trinket on another class? Charm removal might as well say "do nothing"
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>>502902963
What kinds of people gather together and talk to one another like this anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whIIU3F2BKQ
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>>502902035
>in 2019, where pvp servers WERE FUCKING DOGSHIT CLUSTERFUCKS
only for the week ranking launched without bgs
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>>502903330
holy based
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>>502901306
bro wtf is this recommended video from the fourth link?
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>>502893101
Some addons like Gargul wouldn't work properly if they weren't up to date, the raid leader would initiate a loot roll and you wouldn't get a pop-up if your version was outdated, most addons also complain about there being a new version out, shit like questie, dbm and moveany get updated every 3 days.

God addons like Altoholic on the other hand get abandoned
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>>502903002
The servers are at least in us west right...?
Whats the fucking ping to there from Aus east coast?
I'm this close to just skipping this fresh because of this
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>>502903808
You think it will be different this time ? Lfg layer 2 ?
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>>502903687
holy lmao i think i might just go pve now
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>>502904343
>>502903687
shit like this makes me rethink sometimes, but i love worldpvp as a part of the world and pve horde is is a special kind of weird
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>>502904236
>>502902294
Bump

I don't think any one knows yet.
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>>502904289
dont know if they release bgs and rank at the same time if they do it wont be bad at all
last time it took 2 hours to go from thorium point to brd
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>>502902942
Convenient to shut down currently active HC servers a day before fresh one comes out to force people to move there
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>>502903687
Discord trannies
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>>502903687
>these are the people calling you a carebear in bg's when they see you're from a pve server
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>>502904236
idk about east vs west but aus to US ping is anywhere from 170-250, maybe even more if u are in perth i think they get fucked the worst.
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>>502904509
>these 50 people acting like retards are a convenient excuse for my own cowardly faggotry
And nothing more
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>>502903330
That makes no sense, why would they block PvP to PvE transfers? it should be the other way around
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>>502904598
case in point
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>>502904447
More than likely, I'm playing pve this time so have fun with that.

Aliance human female paladin.

>No! This does not automatically make me trans btw.
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>>502904439
just pullin shit out my ass here but it would make more sense from a service standpoint to have NA servers be west coast if your only two options are EU and NA. they aren't always logical though.
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i will play pve server (once tbc arrives)
i will do nothing but arena with my boomer friends
i will rage at fengus fags for being shitters in BGs while im trying to get off pieces each season
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>>502904659
So that cowards can’t run. If you roll on a pvp server and don’t like pvp, you made your bed.
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pve servers are for people who buy gold
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>>502904757
I'm hoping west coast. I could live with Chicago however.
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remove boons.
dispelling was too kino.
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>>502904731
you type like a fag and your shits all retarded
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does anyone know of a source for prices over time in previous classic? like between phases? i really wish i had made a big spreadsheet with everything but i was just so lazy. but everything is just going to be the exact same, certain items shot up like 2000% price overnight when certain phase changes came. if you had that data you would be so rich
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>>502905063
one dude had such an autistic meltdown because of my guild that he made 10 accounts with priests who he had laying dead in felwood trying to dispel us on the flowers
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>>502905130
If you had that data you also wouldn’t share it.
But it’s not hard to figure out, just use wowhead.
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>>502904757
it's probably Central if sod is anything to go by
so Chicago data center
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>>502905214
that data would remain true even if everyone had it, because most people take the short-term gains over long-term. even knowing that an item will go up in price 5 months from now, ppl will sell it cause money now is better than money 5 months from now
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>>502905234
yes, it'll be chicago. EST servers were physically located there anyway
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are paladins good in wpvp? what about in vanilla and in tbc?
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>>502885707
We will never get this Emerald Dream and it hurts.
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>>502905065
Why thank you sire.
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>>502905473
time to put on the dress
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>>502905395
Competition is absolutely a factor. Only so many items, and lots of people trying to capitalize.
But I’ll give you one. Winter squid. Retards never learn, and it always spikes come summer.
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>>502905473
Very fun in a group if you can utilize mouse over macros and master the utility spells and auras.
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>>502905473
Not solo. Any ranged class will beat you badly
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>>502905473
find a woyer
press freedom/cleanse on him
bop disarm
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>>502905630
based
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>>502902963
Are you going to argue that people aren't different in 2004 compared to 2024?
Are you going to argue that the almost completely homogenous 2004 community isn't different compared to now?

The majority of the planet didn't have proper internet access back then you retarded ape, the difference between playing Vanilla Wildhammer PvP and Classic Incendius PvP pre server transfer destruction was night and god damn day.

I've had a better PvP experience in the short timeframe of actual Vanilla over the entirety of Classic including the expansions, and I'd gamble my life savings even if I included Classic Classic Vanilla would still be better, go be a silly bitch somewhere else.
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>>502905851
this sentiment I don't understand. deep ret for repentance, blessing of freedom/cleanse, pursuit of justice, resist auras, maybe gnomish net, rets do fine against ranged
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>>502905998
I played sod on pvp, it was normal
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>>502906023
deep ret is their worst pvp spec.
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>>502905851
Engineering + good gear solves this.
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>be warrior
>get smoked in wpvp
>i know, ill rank to 14 in AV and then be unstoppable when i get the gear!
>still get smoked in wpvp
this is why i pve
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>>502906023
So how did ret perform in the mak gora tournament?
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>>502906267
horde only.
but it would've been knocked out in the first round.
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>>502906220
it's because you're bad
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>>502906267
was the tournament open participation? i remember somebody complaining about it
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>>502906328
lol oops my bad. I've honestly never done classic pvp I just assume ret is bad because I've never seen any evidence otherwise and I don't really understand how paladin deals any damage
>t. Hc player
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>>502904236
God I hope not. East coast chads are too important to play on shitty west coast servers
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>>502906127
>sod
lmao
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>>502906421
Some guy was complaining that it wasn't self found so basically people who were full time wow players with community support were the only ones able to get the items necessary to compete. Guy was a nonentity and the finals was two multi rank 1 gladiators who were better than everyone anyway

Underwhelming duel at the end. Mage has 0 chance vs warlock
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TFW agonizing over what class this go round...
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>>502906664
Ya sod turned out to not be good but that has nothing to do with whether pvp is le unplayable in 2024 because of psychopaths which was what anon said and what I was responding to

Sod pvp server was just fine, levelling an alt and higher level players routinely let me pass, as I do to others. Sometimes they didn't, mildly annoying. Sometimes fun wpvp happened, esp with friends. It was all normal bro
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>Download cata classic
>Goblins have no faces
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>>502906765
Lemme hear your picks and what you're thinking about to make the decision
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>>502906823
NOOOOOO YOU WERE CAMPED FOR 14 DAYS AND 88 HOURS BY A SCHOOL SHOOTER ROGUE
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What do if I want to play an MMO but I'm a sperg who's terrible at socializing and doesn't know what to say 99% of the time?
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>>502906853
is this black face?
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>>502883036
if fresh didnt get announced this general would merged with wowg with how dead it was
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>>502907195
You'll fit right in.
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>>502906220
warrior is a trash class in unorganised pvp
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>>502883463
tell me you have crippling autism without telling me you have crippling autism
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>>502907195
Just go questing and pvp if that's something you want to do
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>>502907260
>classic has been retail for 3 years
>somehow the generals didn't merge over that time
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>>502907195
don't worry half the people who play this shit are like you
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>>502907195
>inv
>yeah
>thx
bam, 95% of WoW interactions covered
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has he been doing reruns for 5 years or is he back?
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>>502907195
and if you do end up doing dungeons/raids do not pick a class that requires you to know pathing and pulling mobs like Warrior you're gonna quit the game within a month if you start with warrior
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You are ruining several people's work days, I am on a call with several boosters and none of them can work until you are bored and they have families to support.
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i want princess from mara to sit on my face and give me braps
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>>502907057
>be me, 14 years old playing tbc
>level 70 warlock, hardly any gold
>make a budget 29 twink rogue for bgs
>my friend does the same
>walk to raven hill cemetery and mass slaughter alliance in the 24-28 level range 4-6 at a time until they get their higher level friends to chase us away
>1v1 level 30-35 players in stv
>slash salute for good duels
Wpvp is NOTHING but psychopathic school shooters killing ME and my FRIENDS and we ALL regretted playing on pvp servers and we transferred OFF and HAHAHAHAHAHA UR MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, nobody LIKES pvp servers and that's why ME transferred off. My FRIEND thought he LIKED pvp servers but turns out he DIDNT and I LAUGHED at him when he QUIT the game hahahahahahaha
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>>502907195
play a dps.
rogue, hunter, mage, warlock.
and you'll learn what's acceptable interaction.
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>>502907274
>>502907421
>>502907570
>>502907665
I'm more worried about joining a guild and having to talk on a mic and having conversations with people
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>>502907764
i don't think he'll come back...
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>>502907195
Awh come on you're just an avatar in there. No risk. Who cares?
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>>502906962
mage because mage goodness and want to pvp with bros

warlock because i've never mained one and it might be fun to roll into tbc with a lock

shaman because it will also be fun to roll into tbc with one (I know I would have to heal slut)
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>>502908040
you dont have to do any talking just pink parsie
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>>502882305
So taking it from this the best class if you want to get into a raid is warlock, right?
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>>502907764
how does a dead man stream?
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>>502902107
deep resto, 0/13/38, which also doubles as a fc spec, but for farming or wpvp is dogshit
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>>502908040
try this on for size
>join
>them "sup dude"
>you "yo"
>play the game
you got this man
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>>502908040
just tell them you don't like using a mic they don't really care and if they keep asking just say no
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>>502908101
no. druid by your logic.
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>>502908101
paladin and priest are the best always by far
you dont need more than 1 warlock max 2 if you want coe
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>>502908040
ive been in classic guilds where i have never spoken on the mic. just show up to raid, do my job then bounce
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>>502908161
>dead man
?
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>>502908040
You don't have to talk at all on the mic for 40man as long as you're not in some important role.
I'm a socially anxious faggot and I only talked with my guild in TBC 5/10mans
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>>502908320
anon...
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>>502908179
ok, ignoring that your main spec is fucking awful, what would you respec to and where would you get the gear for that second spec?
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>>502908040
There's 40 people in a raid and a lot of people feel this way. Noone will pressure you to talk on voice if you don't want to. In hc it's common for random to want coms for high level dungeons and people often say "you don't have to talk just be able to hear" you'll be fine
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How is spriest in tbc pvp and pve?
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>>502908436
I legit don't know.
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joana try to fake his death or what
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>>502908082
You can't really go wrong with mage. Shaman healing is very fun if you like healing. Warlock is sort of my favourite class but there are drawbacks. They're all winners. It's a hard choice.
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>>502908595
>pick best healer in the game
>DURHUR I WANT TO PLAY ONE OF THE WORST DPS IN THE GAME INSTEAD
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>>502908601
joana died a couple years ago
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>>502908040
plenty of people raid and don't talk on mic. i raided for years in TBC and made friends i still talk with and i never spoke
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>>502908753
actually it was only in may this year
https://x.com/TomCatsTours/status/1785431995268407332
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>>502908094
>not a word in disc
>show up to raid on time and parse all 99’s so the guild gives me legendaries anyways
Feels good
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>>502908753
wtf? who is running his channel then?
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/vanilla-wow-world-record-speedrunner-joana-passed-away-339124
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>>502908996
All me
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>>502908454
>your main spec is awful
it's a healer spec, and looking at it now it'd be 1/13/37 for nature's grasp
>what would you respec to
a couple choices. for feral as a nelf I did something like 11/19/21 with omen and ns. tauren would probably do 0/30/21 because they have warstomp. or I'd do balance 30/0/21
>where would you get the gear for that second spec?
raids. pvp. druid loot rains down.
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What's the pros and cons between Elemental Shaman and Balance Druid? Feel like they both go for the same gear and lean on the "same" play style. I've already played balance in the last iteration, so I'm considering trying shaman for a change
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>>502908996
dunno, friends/family?
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these PvP server guilds are a special kind of aids
All the pserver rejects back for more humiliation rituals
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>>502909095
you sound like you've never played Druid before.
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>>502908721
Thats the problem. I figure I can do a mage first and if I want to multibox level an alt on a 2nd account I'll just do that. Thats what I'm leaning towards right now
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>>502909147
you sound like a contrary retard who doesn't know shit about shit
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What's a good race/class combo for a gay man such as myself?
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>>502909220
no you're just a coping retard.
you have a shit main spec and your respec is the default specs for druid.
grats, retard.
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>>502908996
this makes me sad
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Healer
any race
any class
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>>502909353
meant for >>502909276
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>>502909276
fem elf warrior
fem dead warrior
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why did reddit convince blizzard to let warriors and rogues run around in their pvp spec all the time?
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>>502909276
Anything that anon personally doesn’t like, because gay = bad which means that things I don’t like (bad) = gay (bad)
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>>502909276
human
bodytype 1
paladin, warrior, or rogue
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>>502909485
because they're fucking retards. all players are retards and developers should never listen to them.
see: >>502909095
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>>502908595
pve it has a fun little rotation and is sought after for mana battery. your damage is bad and doesnt scale at all so you have to enjoy the simp aspect of feeding your party mana

pvp (arena) it's fairly trash. you basically have one 3v3 comp, mage/spriest/rsham and you just zug with early lust since you run OOM extremely quickly and have no defensive cooldowns. rogue/spriest is a solid comp, really good into war/rdruid which is nice but still frustrating due to mana/defensive issues. mage/spriest is also okay but both comps are WAY better with a disc instead of shadow so yeah
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>>502909108
totems are kewl that's about it
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>>502909276
tauren shaman
verified 100% real answer
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>>502909313
the only other choice for raid heals is 24/0/27. a deep resto spec with 5/5 furor and bear charge can come in handy in pve as well.
but, again, you don't know shit about shit
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>>502909276
female tauren druid
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DOOD I HECKING LOVE LOOKING FOR HEALERS FOR 5 HOURS, NO WAY WE LET PEOPLE HAVE DUAL SPEC SO THEY CAN HEAL DUNGEONS.....NO NO NO THAT'S FUCKING RETOILETESQUE
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>>502909798
just play healer if its that bad
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what do ud rogue look like irl ?
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>>502909798
i look like that and say that
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>>502909798
>xhe needs to be 51 points into the healing tree to heal a dungeon
people really believe this.
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>>502909798
if you played tank you'd make friends with healers and you wouldn't be looking everywhere but you play dps because you're a queer who goons his sissy clit to pink numbers on a website
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>>502909941
can't wait for tbc, brehs
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>>502909895
https://x.com/Barny
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>>502909895
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Anyone have access to the code for RestedXP guides for after level 20? It's pretty expensive, would rather not pay. Let me know, would appreciate it!
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>>502909798
i only have 31 points in holy, i'll need to respec if you want me to heal
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>>502909895
gaunt, jaundiced, receding hairline. hasn't showered in weeks
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>>502909895
https://x.com/psherotv
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>>502909798
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>>502910042
>>502910028
i really doubt that
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>>502909351
yeah bummed me out when i learnt he passed, sometimes i put his stream on as nice background noise
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>>502910162
>xhe doesn't know
https://youtu.be/CUHidVbKu-0
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I've decided on hardcore, tauren druid
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>>502910028
Good videos though
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>>502909353
Fuck! this mean i'm gay. Should i get topped on grinder ?
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>>502910269
infrequent uploads is bad for the algorithm but yes they're entertaining.
it's the right amount of schizophrenia and degeneracy without injecting his gender dysphoria into it.
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>>502910138
That's just all wow players you can't pin that on ud rogues
>>502910262
See you in the barrens buddy, orc hunter
I can't wait to see the first death alert
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ahlaundoh is player warrior
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i really dont want to wpvp/level as a priest again but nelf female priest is calling to me
and i secretly like hiding in shadowmeld until the mean pvp griefer boys leave it makes me feel demure
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>>502910382
Shows how classic wow really is the best mmo ever. Not just barney but show me anything from retail or ffwhatever or anything else that's even close. I do think you can sense a bit of discord trannydom I the videos but I wouldn't exactly have ever guessed. Definitely an example of a rogue player lol
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play retail retards
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>>502910556
I am playing fresh retail in 2 days.
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>>502910420
we gon sniff u in da shadows and break dat buck, elfie boi
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>>502910556
>coke classic
>coke new
Some things never change *sips*
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>>502910652
Well said brother.
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>>502910556
I think retail has more trannies than classic so no
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>>502910718
opposite is true
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>>502910405
The dude just has a raid full of retards that jerk him off and do everything for his one parse
Insane
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>>502910718
>>502910835
Hardcore genuinely has none
>You're lying
Nope. I was in every relevant guild discord on skull rock and didn't see a single one
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im getting felstriker
what about that
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>>502910865
non-pumper cope
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>>502910652
are you the smug anime coke poster? you're still here?
maybe fresh will be worth it.
_____ __ ______ ____.
____ __ ______.
I think the only people missing are the kedis doppleganger, caca obsessed poster, benched pedo poster, filtered IPs poster.
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>>502910923
Learn to read logs man
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>>502910710
isn't it barq's?
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>>502910885
HC has a large concentration of troons, possibly the largest in gaming
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>>502911102
many are saying this
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>>502910865
How do I become a cult leader streamer with simps that will do whatever I want?
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>>502910885
I played hardcore and got to 60 doe
>t. Ranny
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>>502910420
If i play pvp it will be Nelf MM hunter + prowl pet aimed shot ambush. Horde busy will be streched.
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>>502911158
purchase microphone and webcam.
start twitch channel.
be entertaining.
make youtube videos that funnel people to your twitch channel.
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>>502911158
You have to have charisma, panache, and a bit of je ne sais quoi.
If you are posting about classic wow on 4chud, you can’t.
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>>502911060
No it clearly says Bangs on the can man.
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>>502911158
play a game you love and slowly develop a community of like minded individuals over the course of years and hopefully get lucky by having some self-worshipping narcissist blesses you with a bunch of retards that overwhelm your community to the point where you are ostracized from the things you put time into and begin to turn into a jaded, cynical asshole.

or just like, you know, make meme videos xD
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>>502911327
i don't know, some of these streamers are fucking clueless charisma voids. there has to be some people here that can do a better job
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>>502882720
Yea but vast majority of rogues are utter shit so you are already ahead of most of them just by having IQ above room temperature
Same with those pure dps warriors who never tank. I always cringe when I see "LFG tank for XXX" and its a brownie writing this shit. They rather spam 2 hours for a tank than turn on that defstance.
How are those people even real?
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>>502911102
>>502911127
I played hardcore all year and this is just untrue. That said, I was horde and alliance are trannies by nature and while I do have a 60 pally I can't speak to the population on dp. On skull rock they just didn't exist
>>502911170
Alliance in point
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>>502911407
i'm gonna give it a shot
will aim for world first (Warrior) and will do it all on camera
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got the ‘eck ready
Now I can grind on the train, plane, and shitter. Just have to finalize my leveling playlist and I’ll be completely prepped for fresh.
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>>502911407
the problem is most people think viewers care about gameplay.
but unless they're a professional competing in tournaments for a valve or riot competitive game, nobody gives a fuck about their gameplay.
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sod lost
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>I don't wanna play on a pvp server because it's always 5 players killing me, when i have 2 mobs on me im at half hp and i was afk and i was lagging and and
>mfw
just gettu betur.
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>>502911327
>>502911236
>be entertaining
>have charisma
No and no. Either have real in-game achievements or be friends with Asmongold or be a femoid and sleep with some male streamers
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>>502911603
retard. nobody gives a fuck about gameplay for non riot/valve games. >>502911518
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>>502911518
yeah most people just tune in to socialize, whether it's vicariously or directly, or have a stream on for background noise
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>>502911662
Popular streamers
>xaryu
>sodapoppin
>jokerd
>venruki
>asmongold
Either you're asmongold, someone with some wow achievements, asmongolds friends, or some egirl who slept with some male streamers. Exactly what I said.
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RIP sod and soddies. It was not the classic+ we wanted, but maybe it was the one we deserved.
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Furries, what are we rolling? Male Nelf Druid here
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Bake new threat cucks, I have big post to make and I want a lot of (You)s
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>>502911815
>xaryu
entertainment streamer that's why he stopped competing in the AWC and barely even plays retail anymore and spends the first 2 hours of his stream reacting.
>soda
was always an entertainment streamer. gained a following for being edgy before Gamer words were banned and keeps it as a variety streamer.
>jokerd
entertainment streamer. he ninja looted for content.
>venruki
entertainment streamer. his main job is entertaining as host for AWC.
>asmongold
entertainment.
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>>502882951
I'd level that way if I could transfer it to the PvP server. Pretty dumb decision on Blizzard's part.
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>>502912008
Yes, the top level gameplay isn't what people want to watch but they still only watch streamers with in-game achievements and recognition or Asmongold and his friend group or women.
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>>502885853
I will drink a protein shake and workout every day to RP as a warrior tank irl
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>>502912008
>entertainment streamer that's why he stopped competing in the AWC
Ackhuyally he wasnt even able to join AWC in first place because blizz didnt allow his state to compete so he had to become entertrainment streamer
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>>502882951
>killed defias pillager and skull rock
I’m salty. Wont be rolling on the new servers out of spite. And on account of being too busy on the pvp servers.
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Which class is the most braindead in both vanilla and tbc? I want to turn my brain off.
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>>502911513
>leveling playlist
oh shit anon i almost forgot
thank you
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>>502912091
what are the achievements of,
staysafe, kargoz, swifty, pikaboo...
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>>502912196
all of them.
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>>502912143
I've got a lot of progress on both dp and skull rock and i didn't want new hc realms (pointless, hc is already fresh, fragmenting an already niche community) but I was always going to check out a new server for the sheer amusement chaos and now a few of my friends are rolling too so it's gonna be fun imo e

And if skull rock and dp really die I'm sure they'll merge someday
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>>502912196
for raiding? destro lock
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>>502912196
Warlock or Huntard. You’ll probably give yourself brain damage from lack of use though.
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>>502899696
You aren't a real player if you play on the PvE server. And nobody will listen to you in BGs, rightfully.
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FRESH
FRESH
FRESH
>>502912335
>>502912335
>>502912335
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>>502912196
paladin
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>>502912250
>staysafe, kargoz,
>wife
>kids
>their own home
>not being dysgenic fat balding
> swifty
>his own home
>his own business
>fucking a milf
>pikaboo
>hes a gay twink?
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>>502910069
bump
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>>502912250
Swifty is a historic content creator, one of the first and one of the best

Staysafe I dunno where he came from but he did kill Kelly thuzad on hardcore which is an achievement

Pikaboo was a professional player though I don't know who he is

Kargoz I know as some youtuber. Does he get real viewership or is he like an alexensual or onlyfangs d-lister?

You either have achievements in game that are real or you're a friend of someone who does/in their loop and simp for them
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>>502907764
His add-on got updated
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>>502889781
private server fags metagamed the consumables for duels. back in the day you were considered a pussy if you used consumables in duels inside ironforge (yes you could duel inside ironforge)
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>>502909147
i genuinely believe that the people who want duel spec or balance changes for hybrids dont play them. im against all tat stuff and play paldin. my ideal classic + would have paladins give some short term blessings or something and double down on the auto attack buff bot instead of being warriors with holy mortal strike.
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>>502912196
for pve - rogue
for pvp - warrior
for questing - hunter
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I'm tired of all you guys talking shit about druids and calling us a useless class, but then, when you're in a raid and somebody dies, the very first thing you hear in voice is "Battle rez!"
So what, do you fuckers want no battle rez's? Or you all think you are uber gigachads and no one will ever die in your raid?
On top of that, you warriors and rogues always want the feral druid in your group so you get the Leader of the Pack buff, you won't get your 99 parses without it.
So I kindly ask you to stop talking shit about us Druids, please.



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