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fresh in 2 days
sod lost

old: >>502882008
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yep its time
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>>502912250
>>502912386
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POST YOU'RE CHARACTERS 4 FRESH!
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>>502912535
>night elf
>purple skin
>dark blue hair
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bros fresh might be cancelled, putin might use nukes...thanks obama.
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Does anyone have access to the code for RestedXP guides after level 20? It's pretty expensive, and I would rather not pay. Let me know. I would appreciate it!
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>freshly shaved, exfoliated, moisturized
>buttplug in
>dress on
Yep, it's Paladin time
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>>502882951
Whats the fucking point of killing the established HC servers by splitting the playerbase instead of merging?
Most new poeple who would want HC experience leave before making it to 60, effectively splitting the playerbase even more. And phases are utterly retarded for a hardcore server. What the fuck are you supposed to do once you hit 60? Molten core for 3 months? Very fun.
Pic rel.
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>>502912535
>Troll
>warrior tank (furyprot)
>orange/red hair
>red hair
yup, im thinking based
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I did my sixtyupgrades list for phase1, researched preraid bis, all the keys needed, bookmarked all the important quests, set up my ui and addons and now im sitting here thinking of just pulling out and not even playing. The idea of grinding everything again just to go back to Molten core... ehh Idk i was so hyped but the closer it gets the more i wanna pull out and just fly to thailand instead or something

Maybe im just too old for this shit
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>>502912897
>hmm i think i must pvp n-ACK!!
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>>502912920
give me your list of addons
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>>502912920
>fly to thailand
oh, so youre a gay pedo.
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>>502912920
terrible place to ask for advice. do what you want, it's your life
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>>502912789
hc is inherently fresh from the fact that you have people dying consistently enough. It unironically shouldve been a RP server or RPPVP server instead
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Reminder that if you roll on the PVE server, nobody will take you seriously in battlegrounds. If you make a call out, people will just kind of look at each other wondering why you're speaking. You are less than human.
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>>502912920
its really only fun if you have friends or haven't played since 2019 classic
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>>502912535
tiktok, humie.
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can someone tell athene to stop being a cult grifter for a bit so he can come back and pwn n00bs
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>>502913206
this is the guy telling you to toll on a pvp server
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>>502913193
>haven't played since 2019 classic
yep its this for me
last played almost exactly 4 years ago
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>>502912789
HC fresh only exists for streamer hype and to renew subs.
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>Hunter main
>Rogue alt
>dont need to raid to get gear to do the occasional world pvp/bg, can just farm r14 casually.
Feels good man.
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>>502913315
https://youtu.be/I5Zn7HMT9nQ?si=rZ77ia-8QQbDiPl7
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>>502913398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjMiDZIY1bM
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aaaaand now I'm thinking about rolling a lock instead of a priest
give me a reason this is a bad idea and I shouldn't do it
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>>502913503
fuck off, we're full.
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Will he make a glorious return or too busy singing on youtube?
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Warriors, do you have a dedicated healsissy partner yet?
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>>502913549
>made Asmon never stream WoW again
i think his job is done anon
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>>502913653
Yeah
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>>502913658
has ratman been confirmed to play fresh again?
been out of the loop ever since his filtering in 2019 and elden ring
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>>502912789
There is no point. Noone who played hc wanted it. Hc is always fresh. That said, it's here so we might as well play it. I've got a similar account to you, lol. 60 rogue, mage, pally, and a 46 warlock, and a few level 30s. Lost my 49 resto shaman a couple days ago lol
>doing troll hinterlands quest, all done
>everyone decides to just mount up and run down and out
>Uh okay
>Druid gets dazed off mount, travel form, not enough, dropping to 5% hp
>healer instinct kicks in and I swiftness a max healing wave
>instantly pull aggro from everything, die in 3 seconds
Looking back the play was pop LIP, target dummy, and then ghost wolf... it was survivable if I did all that, but I had 3 seconds to react, was tired as fuck and had been playing all day, and sort of expected the group to turn around

Druid logged out immediately and didn't even say thank you lol

Not that it all really matters but I was loving that resto druid
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>>502913393
>r14
>hunter
what a waste
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>>502913819
chronic bald watcher anon here, he's not playing fresh because he 'doesn't find it interesting'. besides, he farms more views reacting than playing games
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I've completed my anti-AFK bot. Now I never have to log off. Enjoy your queues faggots.
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>>502913873
>>r14
>>hunter
obviously i would go for r13 only on the hunter duh.
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>>502913549
I still fucking can't believe that he's the youtube singing coach but he actually is. Genuinely a legend of the game and asmongold is forever tarnished for getting so butthurt over what was legitimately banter from a fucking fan of his
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>>502913503
you cannot use the rape face dwarf model since they cant be locks
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>>502913934
post it or its not real
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>>502913549
>>502913952
channel?
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>>502913901
awesome news to hear, that means less of his clout chaser fans to share with in queue times.
>he farms more views reacting than playing games
the absolute state of streaming
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>>502914023
The fuck are you cunt talking about
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Hello
I'm going to be making a character to go through all the expansions
How do I actually go about that. Won't I extremely quickly out level the quests I'm doing? I want to do the story but I'm not particularly a fan of out leveling each expansion probably immediately.
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>>502914023
Tristanvocalcoach

Youtuber with over a million subs. It's clearly advertise from the voice
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>>502913934
>disconnects you randomly
what now fag
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I'm thinking im gonna order a pizza for launch night. Italian sausage and pepperoni.
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I can't wait to play paladin again...
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>>502914092
>it's 2019
>classic in full swing
>open youtube and you hear "HELLOOOO EVERYBODY" in the most gay, nasally voice possible
>maximum comfy because you knew Asmon was getting trolled
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>>502914092
The best content creator to emerge from classic wow (sorry barney)
https://youtu.be/-GG5QPCx6Iw?si=r0vq59YRPtuQVxKx

I like the bald man but I am actually still angry about how he couldn't understand the illogical premise of forcing grenades to already own a dagger to get perditions blade. Advertise explained clearly and exactly why this makes no sense and he just wouldn't accept it

That kind of illogical argument rattles me worse than anything else
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Anyone else going into this a solo incognito gamer? Looking forward to blindly fighting anyone I see
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>>502913847
sucks. I like leveling as an rsham on pvp servers. increased range on totems, 3% hit and ns is really nice to have while leveling, plus healing wave being a reasonable cast time is nice for dungeons
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>>502913549
Amazing how this guy cleared asmon off the game, I would even attribute asmon never streaming on his main channel to him as well
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>>502914259
fuck the bald man looks so much dirtier back then.
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>>502914310
Like every death, it will never be forgotten and taught me some valuable lessons. And what was I gonna do, 60 another character on an irrelevant server? Had a lot of good runs on the shammy lol
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>>502914259
it's really kind of sad and funny at the same time that these react videos end up being a really good archive of content that elsewise just ends up deleted
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>>502914393
Asmon cleared himself off if that's the case. It was karma. Advertise obviously liked him and the videos were great. Asmongold has too much ego and takes himself too seriously. Noone ever accused him of being a great player and noone gives a fuck if a warrior loses to a shadow priest it's an impossible matchup even if you aren't hopelessly outskilled
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>>502914463
At least they're still up. I go back and rewatch every now and again. I had such a bad feeling about how it ended for advertise thinking he was just some random who was getting a big break in streaming and asmongold destroyed his chance. Learning how successful he is felt good. He deserves it.
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>>502914393
What did he do to make Asmonbald rage?
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real parasocial hours
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>>502914648
Genuinely it was saying asmongold sucked at playing warlock and exposing him for being a stubborn moron with the grenades video (i dont think hes a moron but he really was in that video). The gank videos he was rolling with and reacting to and found funny but having a good pvper make mean comments about his warlock play and upstage him in an argument where he was wrong did some ego damage

It didn't have to go that way it was sad
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ff14 on mobile but no wow on mobile? just put classic on there man
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>>502914734
I gotta piss, brb.
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>>502914005
>>502914146
I’m paying a Venezuelan child $5 a month to keep me logged on
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>>502914847
did you wash your hands?
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>>502914950
Twice
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>>502914734
Love the gold and am happy he made it big in life playing wow he deserves it. Helped and supported his mom and they WILL play a god perfected version of wow in heaven. Love the tise. Simple as.
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>>502914610
his entire world is obviously defined by the game. it's very sad.
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>played hunter last time
>don't want to play any other class because hunter is significantly less effort to make work
I would play mage but flasks being useless is too good.
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When did you first realize that SoD was doa and destined to fail?
For me, it's when it became apparent that every raid tier would completely obsolete the previous one just like retoliet and retards tried to say that was fine
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>>502914259
Kek that was pretty good
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>>502915021
Advertise? He's a professional vocal coach who makes millions on YouTube and plays wow as a hobby
>what a loser

>I had just gotten done killing starchicken a number of times... the assertion that he is somehow doing well is, in my opinion, baseless
Always funny
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>>502914525
>>502914806
its gotten so bad with asmon that when he recently streamed Ashes of Creation he got mogged as soon as he logged in because the starting zone is contested and he logged off after an hour. its created a heated debate about streamer privilege, that MMO is gonna die lmao
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>>502915058
i wouldn't mind tanking but there's too many warriors and i like world pvp

spriest and warlock seem appealing but i'm not a huge fan of casters

rogue would be fun but i love av

hunter is the play
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>>502914393
Asmongold has been mindbroken for 5 years. First he got driven off of classic, then he went down the entire react rabbithole and ended up as this eternally malding retard. He doesn’t even play wow or do transmog comps anymore, just reacts.
I used to watch him back in Legion/BFA and he wasn’t nearly as bad.
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>>502915193
cleared bfd twice and realized I don't want to grind this shit 3 times a week.
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>>502915232
Prove your baseless claim of him being a vocal coach.
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>>502915286
main hunter and just make all of those as lvl 35 crafting alts then take the one you enjoy most to 60 aswell for alt raid
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>>502914101
Meow??
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>>502915193
when they based the entire premise on warriors being op (clearly not understanding their own game) and making "everyone op like warriors"
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>>502915293
he broke when he played dark souls on stream for the first time.
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>>502913819
>>502913901
>>502914047
It's more that multiplayer games are unplayable for him on stream because everyone is either simping for or griefing him. He can't play a game and be a normal player with an entourage of 30 people trying to kill mobs for him, give him free shit, while another 30 people try to kill him. He probably will play, but just offstream on a secret account/character. He only streams single player games now for that reason.

Hell even Sodapoppin couldn't stream his hardcore guild meeting without 3 people trying to get the word 'nigger' or shit about jews and circumcision to show up on his stream.
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>>502915391
Youtube Tristanvocalcoach
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>>502915393
might if i have the gusto after nolifing the hunter. lots of time ahead, not gonna rush it past the first week. get ahead of the curve, and coast from there.
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>>502915505
tristan paredes comes up, not that channel.
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>>502915487
hahaha that happened to soda? thats based. i dont blame the baldman though, everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame
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>>502915487
>Hell even Sodapoppin couldn't stream his hardcore guild meeting without 3 people trying to get the word 'nigger' or shit about jews and circumcision to show up on his stream.
Good. People need to be told
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>>502915505
Doesn't exist. Post a link or fuck off.
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>>502915565
>>502915597
https://www.youtube.com/@tristanparedes
he is tristan paredes, listen to his latest video for 3 seconds and you'll know its advertise
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>>502915565
Ya, that's him. 2.5 million subs.
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>>502915687
Are you delusional? Sounds absolutely nothing like that whiny nerd in the bald man video.
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>>502915726
lol you think that was his real voice in the advertise videos? hahahaha
it was obviously a very serious twitch channel and youtube channel too and definitely not a burner account (advertisesp) (advertise shadow priest)
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>>502915586
>>502915592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki00PYhKdWA

vid related Sodapoppin got butthurt because slavs gonna slav and ask people if they're jews. Best part is he got called out on his hypocrisy
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>>502915726
lol, low iq
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>>502915797
>these two voices sound nothing alike
>this is proof
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>>502915510
same for me as a hunter main
first alt is probably a druid to 35 as its the most comfy after hunter because of travel form
i can then dump all the potions made leveling alchemy to a warrior to make leveling that less painful
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>>502915726
>are you delusional?
ever heard of raising the pitch of your voice? the guy's a fucking vocal coach
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>>502915193
Me it was 5 minutes after phase 2 released when nobody was questing and everyone was just SPAM RUSH DUNGEONS SPELLCLEAVE HR EVERYTHING FAST FAST FAST
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>>502915839
Go through a couple videos and just wait for the voices to sync. If you're not a complete idiot you'll hear it.
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>>502915842
just money for some greens makes warrior go from alright to actually enjoyable. i've always wanted to shadow priest but kinda worry about mana memes.
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>>502915878
people forget when he played dark souls 1 on his stream it was his first variety game and it completely shattered his ego. he took a vacation from streaming and has never streamed on his main channel for longer than a month for large sponsored releases like classic wow and lost ark.
he's so fucking mindbroken that even though he doesn't play games anymore he still won't return to the channel.
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>>502914807
turtle wow is coming to android
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>>502915883
Blizzard are so fucking bad at game design and they do it to be spiteful to their players. Easy fix to everyone spamming sm was make dungeons a 5 a day lockout. They didn't do it so they could blame the players for the game not being fun, then released incursions which were less painful than sm spam but even more retarded. I was doing them with my friends and we were just like this is so bizarre
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>>502915879
And with that logic, you could argue that any random person is this "Tristan".

>>502915914
I don't hear it and I don't care if some anonymous dude thinks another anonymous dude is an idiot. I'm clearly stating my point of view.
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Previous warrior parse tranny here, thinking of going rogue this time and only doing world pvp ganking and bgs, maybe just gank ppl in mid level zones or in the city as they unboon, has to be more fun than 0 mechanic raids?

Any pvp chads can weigh in?
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>>502916032
>casual = taking 6 hours over 2 days to clear MC with half the raid AFK
>sweaty = clear MC day 1 in 2 hours tops
Why are dad guilds seen as “casual” again?
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>>502915803
wtf happened to pilav anyways?
3 year gap in videos? did he not play df at all? tww brought him back? he's fucking shredded.
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>>502915193
SOD phase 1 was a blast
I quit after hitting level 28 in phase 2, couldn't be bothered
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>>502916067
>I dont hear it
Then you've got something wrong with your ear/how your brain processes sound or comparing sounds

Esfand also said it was him but that's beside the point. The vocal comparison is clear as day. Watch more advertise videos he doesn't always commit to the voice as hard and there were clips of him singing karaoke during his wow streams
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i would bet my left nut that advertise faggot deleted his channel and killed himself when he realized killing asmongold in wow wouldnt get him laid lmao
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>>502916159
he went to prison
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>>502916119
rogue has always been the class for antisocial virgin retards that want to spread misery and flex their "skill" in a 20 year old singaporean gacha game
you sound like you fit the description well
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>>502916067
>by that logic
retard you can hear it in his own voice, if i raise the pitch of my voice i know i don't sound like him.
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>>502915803
I've never watched sodapoppin but he sounds like a total faggot
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>>502916189
He deleted when asmongold and esfand threatened to dox him on his main channel to his viewers.
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>>502916224
have some sympathy for rogues man do better
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>>502916119
I’ll be doing to same on a priest/lock. Run around and fight people then stop when I get bored. Got no plans on raiding and parsing again
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>>502916190
frfr?
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>>502916184
I'm not going to waste time listening to a whiny nerd trying to compare him to nobodys on the internet. I already humored you by doing so once. I have fantastic headphones and a great amp, as well as no hearing or neurological issues. I appreciate your concern but you seem to care about this way too much.

Oh yeah and
>Esfand also said
Not helping your case there, bud.
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>>502916317
rogues are like men under 6ft
zero rights
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>>502916262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAdB8IEb_o

never forget the time he used streamer privilege to bully the master looter to give him a warglaive after he lost the roll
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>>502916119
Based boon thief

>>502916189
Apparently he has a huge youtube channel with singing lessons or something. 2.5 mil subscribers.
Makes sense, given the voice and all.
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>>502916336
It literally doesn't matter what you think at all lol. There's no "case" I need to help. It's him.
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>>502916262
I think a large portion of his audience is homosexual men. he's the perfect twink. it also fits with the bullying because fags love to be bullied.
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>>502916423
Ok, so what do you get out of this information, if it were true?
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>>502916325
yea he talked about it in his comeback video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMPGyJtB0Xs

he's the only funny retail wow content creator, and he's gone already because it's shit
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>join EU FF discord
>see this
what causes people to be like this? lack of sex? not having a father?
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>>502916293
forgot about that, fucken doxxing someone for making you angry in a game hahaha. id expect that behaviour from mentally ill sweaty warsong players not asmon and esfand
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>>502916428
>twink
>30
Anon.
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>>502916481
yes
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>>502916359
was this when he was doing level locked raiding or was this a pserv?
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If HC realms aren't progressing to TBC, what happens to your character if it dies after the normal servers progress to TBC?
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>>502916452
he's funny and self aware to a degree, but has serious zoomer humor syndrome. his videos are one good joke / point for every two minutes of nonsense spam.
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>>502916450
I dont get anything? What are you even asking lol? It's just really funny that this awesome deranged wow player quit his extremely successful YouTube singing career for 2 months to gank asmongold and make great videos. He's a person deserving of success and I'm glad he has it.
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>>502916481
>songiu
I know this guy, I had the displeasure of playing with him on last fresh.
>is polish
>raised by a single mother
>watches anime
>openly talks to everyone about porn and masturbating
>is on discord 24/7
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>>502916598
I don't believe it's the truth, and you have no proof otherwise. If you were some sort of professional voice analyzer for a court, that could be a different story.
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>>502916553
You probably still get dumped onto the TBC pve server, the character is lost forever, or maybe you'll be able to transfer to era
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>>502916553
I think you can transfer to them. My skull rock 60s are gonna live it up in tbc when it releases and I'll play hc fresh in the meantime *sips*
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>>502916359
Enraging
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>>502916642
Who cares what you believe?
>DO YOU HAVE A PEER REVIEWED STUDY THAT SHOWS THIS???
>DO YOU HAVE A PHD IN COMPARATIVE YOUTUBE???
no, just ears and a brain, two things you apparently lack
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>>502916783
You can't prove it at all. You just have your own opinion. That's fine, just don't go around touting it as fact.
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>>502916867
relax tristan there's only like 5 people on this website.
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>>502916867
It's super obvious in this video. I agree it's a little harder to tell in the recent ones
https://youtu.be/p3yTpNcpz94?si=sFOWRigxtyUQcENs

Especially since he sung a whole new world on stream as advertise lol
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>>502916909
Nobody cares if I played WoW in my past, nobody who listens to Katy Perry even knows what WoW is.
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>>502916909
>>502916867
And we love you!

Oh and the girl he has in the background said the "chadvertise" line that appeared in one of the vids
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>>502916968
The intonation and candor are completely different and the tongue placement along the teeth is obviously flawed for advertise, and not in the purposeful and consistent manner of a voice actor.
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>>502917054
He was doing a different voice for the character but it's very clearly him. If you can't hear it then you are genuinely retarded or
>>502916909
covering your tracks

You should play hc, it's fun
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this is one of the weirdest and most delusional rabbit holes i have seen on this website. wish there was enough to it for me to tell frederik.

>>502916968
do we have a link to advertise singing? we need a real comparison here man
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>>502917173
https://youtu.be/1SikdnU1yMI?si=V7s_YyZ5OAFsonqx
Actually yes
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>>502917146
Insulting somebody does nothing for your argument except to degrade other points you make. Post a link of advertise singing that proves something. You're just, haha, ADVERTISING for some random Disney singer at this point.
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i want sod+
i only played the first quarter of SOD but i thought it was pretty good. discovering runes and different classes actually being useful, etc. i basically never played warlock before that point but finally getting meta and tanking and shit was wild.
why the fuck would i want to do classic, again, again?
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>>502917267
It's not an argument. It's just very obviously him.
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would anyone like to level with me on thurs? im going to be playing female dorf rogue and ideally we could play double rogue together and genocide noshoes on our journey to 60. im not trying to rush to 60 and minmax super hard i mostly wanna farm salt and sillymax

reply to this post i guess if youre interested and plan on playing a stealth based class
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two people know how to sing that means they are the same person
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>>502917226
Too sharp. I can see where you're coming from but it just doesn't line up. Lack of intonation with a very obviously less nasal backing to the female part.

t. actual vocal coach
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I'm tired of all you guys talking shit about druids and calling us a useless class, but then, when you're in a raid and somebody dies, the very first thing you hear in voice is "Battle rez!"
So what, do you fuckers want no battle rez's? Or you all think you are uber gigachads and no one will ever die in your raid? Fat chance.
On top of that, you warriors and rogues always want the feral druid in your group so you get the Leader of the Pack buff, you won't get your 99 parses without it.
So I kindly ask you to stop talking shit about us Druids please.
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>>502917226
>he sings in the nasal voice
lmao
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>>502917463
How do I do a female voice? I want to pretend to be a girl streamer so I can get free shit
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>>502917226
Wow this random out of nowhere wow video maker is really good at modulating his voice haha
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>>502916509
There's two paths to go to, if you're a twink and you're hitting 30. You either give it up, let the facial hair grow out, and try to rock the generic IT worker look.
OR, you embrace it, grow your hair out, and begin appearing as a Tolkien-esque Elf from Rivendell.
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>>502917467
if you die in raid you should die in real life
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>>502916262
Tyler1 was in the onlyfangs stream prep for fresh hardcore classic and he wanted to kill himself the entire time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc_sNAiqzw4
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GET A B-REZ ON ZUELASE
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>>502917467
All classes are viable.

"Morphious" on youtube is some of the best up to date worldpvp I have seen recently, mostly druid stuff.

>>502917509
Learn to falsetto, so you know how to avoid it, and practice speaking higher while holding your nose closed without going into your falsetto range.
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>>502917579
I'm excited to see grubby lol
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>>502917579
this is the life you chose. you wanna grift gullible lonely losers for money, you gotta keep consorting with the retardo streamers.
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what's the faction balance looking like on the pvp server?
>it'll be 50/50
yeah, yeah, they're locking it, i get it. so then which faction is going to be locked this go around?
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>>502917463
ya ya ya, I know it's him so stop trying to gaslight me tristan
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>>502917590
dont run in like a bunch of retards ok?
>like a bunch of retards ok?
pilav made some good videos man.
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>>502916452
>egirlmanager
>goblin
>gold jiggling
>coalmixy
fuck he's a relic of the old internet. soda only knew how to say nigger to be edgy and never evolved. gonna watch the whole arc.
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>>502916262
>>502916359
remember when he was dating Lea and she used to get him in so much drama
>and she showed her pussy on stream
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>>502917930
who
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>>502863508
Remember to roll a female character so you can do WSG jumps!
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>>502917616
the idea of some faggot holding his nose whining at his monitor is absolutely killing me right now
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Yes I'll be playing horde hunter in hardcore fresh so I can feign death grief onlyfangs players in dungeons, how did you know?
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/wowcg/ - Streamers and Ecelebs
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whens hardcore servers coming back online?
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>>502914005
It's real and no i'm not posting new fag figure it out.
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>>502917836
I understand why baldy hasn't reacted to any of his videos since pilav came back.
community is getting their panties in a knot from him.
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>>502918262
>in hardcore
Ecelebs are going memecore? Sounds like PVP is a go
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>>502914253
>>502914259
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holy fucking shit make another general if you want to discuss e-celebs
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guys will they invite me to a raid?
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>>502919162
No. Now what?
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>>502917579
Jesus Christ
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>>502919043
Yes they are

And guys, GRUBBY is gonna be there!
https://youtu.be/VKEeaeO2RJg?si=L9aDjEeng2NiUgS-
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orc female warrior

Y/N?
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>>502919503
welcome to the meta enjoy your stay
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>>502919503
Yes. Orc female is underrated and one of the best race/gender options
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>>502919448
grubby left dota for THIS???
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>>502919662
yeah because dota fuckin SUCKS
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>>502919662
He left direct strike but ye he's gonna be playing. He has a huge fan base that do what he does do so lots of totally fresh wow babies churned into hardcore with the BEST video game eceleb in the world
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>>502919448
how can anyone hate on Grubby? Dude is a chill guy and never been involved with any of that e-celeb faggotry that the other streamers do. And he's actually really good at a game that is extremely difficult to be good at, Warcraft 3.
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>>502920006
I got into some grubby videos randomly on YouTube and he really impressed me with how cool he is in general. And he's one of the only people who correctly identifies that the decisions blizzard makes are out of spite and not ineptitude, or... not solely ineptitude.

Warcraft 3 is a really interesting game its crazy watching him play.
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>>502920137
they're done out of spite?
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>hey random guy want to group to do X
>sure you got discord?
not looking forward to this again in fresh why does everyone want to chat in discord
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>>502919880
Didn't he play the first Classic? I know some WC3 chuds hopped on the views bandwagon
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>>502920309
For sure.
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>>502920402
not everybody does this
>>502920474
looking back at their decisions, i can see why and now i fucking hate the devs even more
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>>502920402
>ye bro just let me hook up my teledildonics
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>>502920458
No he's never played wow at all. Soda is telling him how to move his character.

Soda is such a faggot. Grubby was coaching him in wc3 and he was such a bored disingenuous faggot the entire time. He also sucks at explaining wow to a new player, probably because he's a moron.
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>join for a dung group
>group leader links a discord server in chat and says “join comms”
what do you do?
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>>502920402
You know what's weird about this is the in-game chat feature actually works really well lol. Some guy in my zf wanted to use it and in hc that's pretty normal so we all clicked 1 button and it was easy and worked just fine. Why are people sending discord group invites instead of just using it?
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>>502920309
The devs literally hate Classic because it makes them mad people would rather play this than the new retail crap they make.
That's why they have put 0 effort into classic. They won't even hire 5 GM's to ban bots. They did nothing about the server balance and just let all those servers die.
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>>502920701
They put effort in to make the game worse on purpose lol
>ban bots
They layer the bots off player layers lol, showing they can identify them automatically despite all the redditers claiming it's literally impossible to do so
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>>502920701
I remember hearing that exact rumour a few years ago. I honestly can't disagree. They seethe at the fact that retoilet sucks. It's better now but holy shit
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>>502920696
I used it in OG TBC but the problem was when the server crashed so did your chat. I'm sure it has some bloated gay dependencies now anyway
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greekwario...i kneel...
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>>502920910
the face of an olympian
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>>502920578
Soda is a shit coach, He didn't even tell Grubby that Shamans have Ghost Wolf which is a massive help to leveling
He talked Grubby out of playing Shaman
Grubby should be maining Orc Shaman considering he is a Orc main in Warcraft 3 and their main hero is the Far Seer, a shaman.
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>>502920621
>leave dungeon group
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>>502920953
>POV: you are a Trojan and this nigga has been camped outside of your city for 10 fucking years years
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So what version of classic is getting these new servers? I missed out 5 years ago so want to try it now but what exact version is getting these new servers? And if it's more than one version which one should I stick with
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>>502920965
Shamans are dogshit levelers and ghostwolf barely helps. Even warriors are better imo.
>t. Got every class to 60
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>>502920309
Of course.
Have you seen the type of people who work at Blizzard now? All the DEI blue haired hires, the troons, the fags... and what do people keep hounding Blizzard to do? Re-release the iteration(s) of the game made by problematic white males.
They are SEETHING and you just know it
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>>502921069
GAYNALAIDS
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We should convert frogposters into fuel, just like the Albanians
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>>502921069
Classic (Vanilla).
It’s a re-release of 2019.

There are 3 versions of the game. Live (aka Retail, aka The War Within), Classic Cataclysm (the 2019 servers that have progressed to Cataclysm), and Classic Vanilla (Era which are forever classic realms, and now 2024 classic vanilla).
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>>502921125
shamans are godly what?
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Should I go gnome lock or human priest for my first toon??

I'm going to play both but I think the lock would make it easier to level my priest since I can farm money and mats faster with the "free" mounts I get and funnel supplies or BoE's to my priest. I don't hate priest levelling I just find it pretty stale spamming wand and walking until the mid 40's.

Both are going to be engineering cause goggles FUCK hard in TBC and teleports to Winterspring and tanaris are handy. I will enjoy priest endgame more, but can somebody redpill me on lock endgame? never played one to 60 before. I'm leaning towards lock cause gold making with mining will be harder without an established economy so cheap mounts are gonna be huge.

I'm going PvE cause getting camped/griefed/2v1'd in pvp is not worth any heckin epic hillsbrad clash
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>>502921125
And if they didn't have Ghost Wolf they would be 100% more shit which is why it's worth mentioning, besides, this is Grubby, it's not some dude who cares about min-maxing, he's gonna play the game for awhile then quit before he ever sees a raid. He should've went Orc Shaman for the thematic reason him being a long-time Orc player.
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>>502920965
He didn't say fucking anything.
>so what's mage like?
>Uh, so, mage might be the best class uh, at top level... people make a mage to farm gold because you kill like 30 things at once but you wouldn't be doing that, they use like frost bolt and frost nova, stuff like that (grubby has no idea what these abilities are)
Any random wow player describing classes to their newbie friend would do a better job it really annoyed me watching it especially since he (grubby) is such a good coach

He explained warlock without mentioning life tap. Never mentioned talents or that each class has 3 specs that can be customized. He was wrong about how voidwalker works and when grubby asked if you can micro your pets abilities He said no (???)
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>>502912946
its over for you alliance troons
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>>502921363
Strongest class from 1-20 anyway. It's hardcore and grubby is almost definitely going to die pretty quickly so it'd be a great class to start on. Hybrid melee with healing spells.
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>>502921482
Sure, I don’t really know about soda or anything but I’m going orc male shaman for max pvp fun
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>>502921572
Enjoy your que Ahmed. Forced 50/50.
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Am I going to be able to PvP on a rogue on 200 ping or am I going to have to roll something else? It's so over ocebros...
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>>502921423
Gnome lock because only trannies play human priest. Dwarf priest is way better. But trannies will always be like "muh 5% spirit" to try and justify why they pick Female Human and none of them play male.
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>>502921678
Alliance is more played in classic though
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>>502921732
You sure seem obsessed with trannies anon, something you'd like to tell the class today?
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>>502921572
>it's over for you alli-ACK!
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>>502921363
NTA but smacking things with horribly slow staves and rockbiter until you get lucky with corpsemaker or shell out 20-30g for a boe axe and then crossing fingers for WF to proc on a mob with 20% hp is giga boring.

and Elemental at 40 is only relevant every 3 minutes and then you just sit and drink the rest of the time but unlike warlocks and mages you need to buy all your water and don't have a pet to tank.

>t leveled shaman to 60 before TBCC
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>>502921732
Female night elf priest
Female undead priest
Male undead priest

Are the only 3 options that are good
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>>502913074
This, especially after stitches started gaining popularity
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>>502921929
>Female night elf priest
How often on a weekly basis do you ERP?
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>>502921819
Yeah, on pve and HC and retail lite servers. Not pvp
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>>502921887
Shamans are the best levelling class in the game 1-20 in hardcore statistically
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>PVE
>HC rejects, dadgamers and streamer simps
>PVP
>literal fucking psychopaths, sweats and spergs
might sit this one out lads
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>>502921985
Never and I prefer male characters but female night elf priest is the lore patricians choice
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will it be impossible to find a raid spot if I roll orc rogue on PvP server?
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>>502922274
>will it be impossible to login if I roll orc rogue on PvP server?
fixed your question
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>>502922001
>played alliance in sod with friends
>vote on faction
>alliance wins by 1 vote
>level 50 doing AB
>instant ques but lose 75% of the time
>between 30 seconds to 2 minutes people start crying and saying it's over and give up
>every single match
Alliance are such sissies and they play hardcore on tutorial mode with literally 2 lives
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>>502920965
wait wait wait
you're claiming some huge wc3 player has never actually played wow in fucking 2024?
[X]
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>>502922401
grubby is famous for his warcraft 3 only autism
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>>502921732

I don't care about being a dwarf. getting invited cause of fear ward isn't an issue since dwarf priests will be a dime a dozen and I've had a dwarf priest since 2019 classic that I played until wrath. It was between nelf male and male human and I like the male human cast animation more. I've never played a human anything before. Fem humans are actually the mentally ill people.

I'm going brown skin and grey hair/balding/bald
might name him Donotredeem or something idk

>>502921929
if I was horde I would've gone male troll or male undead priest but cloth gear looks better on humans and I like alliance zones better. I wanted both toons on the same side for now. If I play horde it would be for a hunter
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>>502921887
Shamans are chill leveling.
>Use 1h+Shield
>Flame shock mob
>Lightning shield on
>Auto attack
>Watch Netflix/Youtube
it's the same thing as Paladin. Sure it's slower than others, but it's chill, and you can heal dungeon groups.
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>>502922401
>wait wait wait
>You're saying rogues are the most nerfed class?
>what?
>what nerfs have rogues ever received?
>I get auto attacked out of vanish
>that's a bug
>warlocks got buffed
>that's not a nerf
>attack power was normalized
>okay
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>>502922362
Kinda like how horde are cowards that refuse to play vs hardiness and wotf, HC is a meme game mode anyway
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>>502922032
That’s because dagger and shield is brain dead right click to win ultra safe. Until level 15-20 or so when your autos stop hitting hard enough. That’s when you get in serious trouble, because a regular mob pull can become life and death for a shaman very quickly.
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>>502922362
Obviously when you have to sit in a 40 minute queue for AB you will try harder, that's why Horde wins.
This time around, if faction balancing is successful, if we have equal queue times on both factions, you'll have an equal amount of sissies saying to give up.
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>>502922362
Elune is worse than petri.
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>>502921887
>2 hand windfury
I usually go 1 hand plus shield and frostbrand.
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>>502922705
Horde has a structural advantage in AB and AV. Farm/lm/bs is a better trio than anything you can do with Stables. In AV the Horde spawn is straight up closer than the Alliance spawn, and doesn’t get bottlenecked at a single small road.
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>>502922889
They also have the best chokes in AV
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pvp server is US east so my ping is going to be really bad :(
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Anyone want to ERP while we wait for fresh?
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>>502922471
>I've had a dwarf priest since 2019 classic that I played until wrath
if that's the case I'd recommend you play a different class, desu
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>>502923013
Eat ramen packets? Way ahead of you
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>>502922705
I dont think so. I think alliance are just crying shitting screaming farting sharting retards.
>>502922590
Besides fresh classic hardcore is the only way to play
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>>502922651
probably cause most guides or whatever say to change to a 2 hander lmao and they get annihilated cause they have no mit and shamans should use a shield unless they are dpsing in a group
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>>502923013
*I look at you with my big tauren cock*
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>>502922705
Nah, alliance always have the give up attitude.
Alliance players are primarily pve shitters who treat pvp as a minigame and know nothing about basic bg strategy or even how to pvp with their class.
Once they taste the slightest amount of resistance they just go into autopilot mode.

>signed, Alliance player all through classic
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>>502922814
No its better
>you get petri at 50 and elune at 20
>you can hearthstone while in elune so it saves you everywhere, not just instances
>multiple raid mechanics bypass petri but not elune
Alliance play hardcore with 2 lives and then brag that more people play alliance

Bag of marbles also trivializes some of the most dangerous fights in hardcore

Salv/all blessings but mainly salvation make raids several times easier
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>>502923164
I think if alliance players had 40 minute queues they wouldn't be so keen to just give up and let the horde win. They would try harder.
And how do you explain how once WOTLK came out, all of a sudden it flipped and Alliance starts winning every BG?
Because, their racials got buffed and the queues became Alliance dominated instead, to the point they had to add in same-faction BG's because so many more alliance than horde were queueing
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>>502922838
>>502922493
>>502922032

Is there someone who explains Shaman levelling in 2024, with all the changes done so far? For instance I wonder if Ele is worth respeccing to at 40 since EM no longer batches two spells (you do less damage and it costs you more mana)
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>>502916262
Well dudu is the most gay coded class in the game
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If I want to get into classic, when should I start? Is now fine or should I wait for whatever this big reset is in like two days? What even is the reset
And finally, if the reset is a good time, any idea when the next will be after this one? (The timing is a lil awkward is all but it's not actually major)
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>>502923392
>And how do you explain how once WOTLK came out, all of a sudden it flipped and Alliance starts winning every BG?
Never happened

List of things alliance will never do
>duel (still waiting on world first alliance duel... any day now)
>quest on a pvp server in a group of less than 4 people
>stop pretending their faction isn't preferred for pve because "horde races are ugly"
>stop coping about that fish that makes you a pirate or a ninja that I've never used and don't know the name of
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>>502923120
*I eye you up and down and bite my lower lip*
*I walk up to you*
"Hey big boy~*
*I unzip my dick*
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>>502923526
You should wait the 2 days

Jump in and enjoy. Watch some videos read some guides. It's a fun game

Watch a class picking guide and decide what you want to play first
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>>502923228
You can alt+f4 to save yourself with petri in open world.
If you’re burning an elune before 60 you’re ngmi anyways.
Yeah there are a few mechanics, but if you’re wiping there it’s ogre anyways.

The real benefit is paladins, which are a million times better than Shamans. Though, horde does get WCB.
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>>502923534
Hordies are the ones that use deviates though.
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>>502923518
Ele is only worth respeccing if you want to do world pvp. It can blow people up with some nice burst. Otherwise you are better off just auto attacking with Enhance/Resto your way to 60 because it's better for groups too, you can put more points into resto while getting to 60.
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>>502923632
>petri alt f4 open world
True but some of the unstuck locations will kill you if you don't organize a raid to help get you out (which has been done)
>if you're burning elune before 60 you're ngmi anyway
Well you might... I've got three 60s and I've died before 60. If I had loe on either character they'd have been fine
>if you're wiping it's ogre anyway
All progression raiding guilds semi wipe sometimes in hc

Having light of elune means having 2 lives in hardcore. There's no way around this and that means alliance play tutorial mode and have the gall to brag that their faction is more popular.
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>>502923534
>Never happened
I can attest that I face more Alliance groups than Horde in Cataclysm.
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is ele shaman or pom pyro mage better for 1-trick pony one shot kills in wpvp?
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>>502921423
Fem human lock
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>>502923721
Case in point. Alliance are obsessed with this for some reason.
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>>502923781
I think ele/resto would be better considering you'd be getting a lot of sp gear from dungeons, you'd be doing the same thing anyways though fire shocking and auto attacking but you could probably throw in lightning bolts from extra intellect
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>>502923628
Thank you anon. Any class picking guides recommendations? Also are these guides updated through Cata? I'm assuming the reset thing is for all expansions? I'm not really familiar with how any of this works my main MMO experience is 14 and like 6 months of Legion and some of warlords of Draenor years ago
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>>502923781
>Ele is only worth respeccing if you want to do world pvp. It can blow people up with some nice burst

Hmm, I'm not going to start shit but Ele might indeed be better just for the survivability. Then again, when I levelled in 2019 I got ganked a handful of times as an Alliance Warlock because everyone was minding their own business and focusing on xp gain
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>>502924040
Are you playing cata or vanilla fresh?
https://youtu.be/3t-OsvFBiXE?si=VPAbLjqlc6g2Nzt2
For a class picking guide. All classes are good so just play what grabs your interest first.
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Jahy where are you?
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So what I'm getting from lurking a few of these threads is that druids suck ass in early WoW and if I want to play one that isn't a complete deadweight I should try Cata Classic or even retail? Or do they improve in any meaningful way in TBC?
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Gonna roll human warrior (again)
This time I'll get everything exalted for sure...
This time I'll actually raid naxx and get the ashbringer before quitting at BWL...
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>>502919241
yeah ill take you to ubrs
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>>502924272
This but I'm going to play Fury exclusively and never tank unless it's on AQ40 trash and not get exalted with anything and quit at BWL
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>>502924264
They don't suck they're just not super strong in raids. But that doesn't matter as they are useful in raids and are extremely underplayed so you'll actually be more sought after than many "better" classes. You can heal and tabk everything just fine to 60 and beyond. You can dps and solo just fine to 60 and beyond. You can pvp just fine with many good matchups and extremely good escape options in world pvp.
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>>502924264
yes unless you heal which they are pretty decent at
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>>502924264
>Or do they improve in any meaningful way in TBC?
very much so.
in vanilla druid has a niche, and it does have some perks, but it's very much a put in a lot of effort to end up with only adequate results sort of class.
and the reality is if you're healing on your druid you will get invited to raids because healers are needed
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>>502924554
Just a fair warning that you'll spend more time casting ff than healing
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>>502924134
Well I intend to play all the expansions fully. I assumed Cata has all the content of the previous expansions, as it was when it was originally released. I'm playing for the questing and story rather than raiding (I'll raid when I get to Cata and MoP)
So I intend to play vanilla and then the following expacs in order. Is there a single vanilla release and then the current updated Cata release? Like two different things? Or does each expacs have its own isolated release. Sorry I should have looked into this more.
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>getting addons in order in preparation for Fresh
>just tried out the voiceover addon for the first time
Kino, simply kino
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>>502924554
will i really have to farm lots of MCPs if i just want to do some wpvp as a feral druid?
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>>502924264
druid is very good as a pvp flag carrier if you are interested in that
feral druid can work in pve but that requires autistic shit like farming pummelers and most people will look down on you
healer druid is good and you have very little competition for gear except paladin niggas stealing your leather shoulders so its very easy to get into raids/guilds
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r14 hpal then raid casual in a dad guild.
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>>502924640
No you're not able to do what you're describing. If you start on a cata server you'll only be playing cata, which altered the entire old world and has completely different classes than vanilla (they have the same name but their talents and abilities are quite different).

This thread is only really concerned with the classic wow servers which don't include expansions but these new ones are progressing to tbc, the first expansion
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>>502924629
that's exaggerated but somewhat true. the start of every pull you will need to make sure faerie fire is up, but faerie fire has a 2 minute duration
shaman have similar maintenance behavior with totems, and pally blessings are 10 mins
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>>502923884
Furries came in and skewed everything
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So is the PvE fresh gonna be DoA or not? Anyone got any intel. I feel like HC probably stole a lot of the players that normally roll on normal so IDK.
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>>502924691
Feral is one of the worst pvp specs, you have to use balance resto hybrid for that
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>>502924882
most likely will be smaller but not DoA
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>>502924768
this but priest then quit when aq40 comes out
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>>502924768
what will you do for the first three months before you can even achieve rank 1?
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>>502924691
no. zero. mcp is for feral tanking burst on pull or feral dps in raids. but "feral" pvp is also a bit of a misnomer as you'll be shifting forms to heal or bash or root or moonfire. druid pvp gear has all stats plus spellpower on it. some classes you can wail away on them as a cat more, like mages, others will turn you into swiss cheese if you try to sit in cat trading blows face to face, like warriors and rogues
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>>502924691
no you dont want to use that for pvp at all
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>>502925053
>three months
Mother of pearl is this real chat
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>>502924646
Your post caused me to install it. I hope it's good, Anon.
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>>502925181
its fun and you get to hear the quest while you are running to the next destination
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>>502924646
How good are the voices these days?
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>>502925053
>forcing MC & Ony phase without honor or BGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co3qMdkucM0
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>>502924815
I see.
Well in that case are you able to transfer the same character through each classic expacs release? Like do all of vanilla, then transfer that character to the TBC classic, so on and so forth?
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>>502925354
that's the entire point of this yes and hence why there is any buzz
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I can hit 60 before I have to work again if I just play 12 hours a day. Too easy.
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>>502925413
Lol thank you for answering all my questions anon. I will watch some class stuff. I'm so excited now!
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Chadowpriest or Chudlock?
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>>502925680
Depends. Do you prefer chastity or pegging?
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About to start Cata Classic (I know), on the character screen got the popup suggestion about HD Textures, already confused. So just making sure I have this right after very brief googling, the ugly revamped models aren't in Cata Classic at all but they included a 42GB scam updated texture pack that was made with AI and has basically no visible differences from the regular textures?
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>>502925017
remember to roll on that hit belt from bwl to make casters seethe
its for naxxramas of course
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>>502925680
Chwarrior
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>>502925861
not sure about the HD Textures but there's been mixed reaction about them. they're for the textures around you, not models exactly I believe. the colours are also brighter (which is not always good).
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How do redditors react when you tell them there's dual spec in sod and still a tank and heal shortage?
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>>502926078
there's an everything shortage cause it's dead
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Fuck Blizzard. No oce server, not even a us west pvp server. So ping will be 400+ most likely to us east if you want to play on pvp. And they demand australians pay 20 a month for this kind of service.
Hope they drown in breast milk, scum
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>>502925861
>>502925992
Nevermind holy shit I forgot the new models were actually from WoD, what's happening to my mind
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>>502926078
>"it's time to give paladins a taunt listen to your community blizzard we have spoken!"
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>>502926159
it's okay, classic boomers also thought MoP talents were from Cata (and LFD)
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>>502925861
>no visible differences
Get a pair of glasses nigga
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>>502926240
nobody knows what stuff is from if its past wotlk for a good reason anon
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>>502926146
Fuck I was getting excited over fresh and then realised the ping would be a massive issue.
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>>502926305
LFD was added in WotLK thoughbeitever
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>>502926146
>>502926323
Ping is like 200 to US East for me is that really going to be that big an issue?
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>>502926305
i would agree if we didn't replay through wotlk where i realized it's actually the shittiest of the original wow classics. boring outside of ulduar 2008-10 wotlk was bis, wotlk classic was a husk
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>>502926078
Meme specs got too cocky. They want to DPS, not heal or tank.
In real classic, people know what’s up.
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>>502926146
>eu
>no national servers
jaja das gut ja poopenfarten
baguette de fromage analiseur
pozzo del eternita jajajaja
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LF tank SM armory helm/legs reserved
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>>502926375
Australian ping varies wildly depending on location
You are clearly on the east coast with high quality internet (by aus standards).
Not to mention all the fucking americans I'll be forced to interact with
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>>502926475
hi im enhance shaman i can tank i just need ravager
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>>502926431
>real classic
>no debuff limit
>dual spec
yeah I'm thinking memespecs are BACK
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>>502926523
This isn't sod soddie
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>>502926615
dumb nigger
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>>502926497
go huff some petrol ya' abo cunt
meanwhile I'll be ordering another medium rare steak
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i need to rape tight human pussy with my orc cock mmmm
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>>502926737
I wouldn't be so mad if Blizz came out and said "no oce no pvp us west" right from the start, but no they let this hang for a week where potential oce players have to fucking speculate over whether we even get anything. Getting hyped up for nothing.
There's defs a bunch of people who subbed on the announcement who are actually just getting fucking screwed now. It's actually disgusting. For the record I knew better and waited for confirmation but I'm still pissed that they would pull this shit.
And I wont huff any petrol because its even more expensive here than a fucking wow sub
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>asmon not interested in playing fresh
Let's be real, he is totally going to play it for a single day and ruin whatever server he picked. 100% baldo is gonna roll alliance, get all his lemmings to make a guild, play just enough to make a single yt vid, then never log on again. He is full content brained and can't resist the subs and donations he'll get for streaming it day 1.
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>>502927037
baldie doesnt even get subs he streams on his alt account. hes not gonna play it
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>full pirated version of restedxp downloaded
>server, class, race & names decided
>no job
yep, i'm thinking i'm ready for fresh
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>>502927152
he's been talking about getting partnered on alt account, but it's still questionable whether he'll play fresh or not.
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>>502927037
That just means MicroBlizz wouldn't cut him some huge check
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>>502927271
>still questionable whether he'll play fresh or not.
I think you mean
>waiting for Night Media to tell him to play fresh or not
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>>502927238
yea im basically ready i use pirated zygor thoughever. Still deciding on the best route for rmt fagging if i desire
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>>502927152
Ngl kinda based twitch hates his guts because he loses them thousands of dollars to bandwith usage.
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>>502927037
baldie isn't capable of playing games anymore
he's full on brainrot politics now
i see him killing himself soon
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>>502927271
not after what happened on ashes of creation, doubt he'll play it unless he does off stream
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>>502927238
how do you afford the sub?
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>>502927037
let's finna be genuinely real
fresh is doa without asmon
we don't wanna admit it but it's the actual truth
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>>502927361
I think that's likely. esfat will probably leak it on his stream.
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why are tauren on the bad guys side again
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>>502927238
This but WindowsXP
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>>502927456
most likely
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>>502927453
look how slow the thread is. there's 0 hype. everybody has moved on from blizzard.
and the developers are too fucking retarded to develop the game so they'll just keep taking queues from leddit on how to make the game.
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>>502927453
blizzard needs to FORCE asmon to play
this is not okay
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>>502923054
no, it's a fun class and the other classes don't interest me much right now. had some awesome times playing tbc holy priest
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>>502927778
most likely they'll sponsor him
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>>502927614
asmon pls save /wowcg/
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where are the hardcore characters?
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What is Priest like to play
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>>502916452
>>502915803
Based Pilav enjoyers, the only funny WoW streamer
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>>502927505
Tauren, orcs and trolls are morally good bros. All the other races are degenerate tranny cucks. Simple as.
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>>502928081
>orcs
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>>502928081
Dark Spear trolls are an exception compared to the rest of the trolls. Even then they are still into some pretty bad shit.
Tauren are pure goodbois though
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>>502928069
lowkey the best class in the game
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>>502928123
Loktar
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>>502917619
isn't grubby super family friendly?
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>>502928058
seasonal server
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>pays poor workers to rebuild stormwind
>city becomes a beautiful piece of art
>doesn't pay the workers and brands them as criminals
Humans are truly the good guys
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https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1gvmor3/my_wifes_boyfriend_is_unhappy_with_the_addition/
Which one of you fags is this
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>>502928379
They got memed by (((((black dragons))))) like the useful stooges that they are.
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>>502928379
wait till you find out who made those humans do that
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>fem human lock who uses succ instead of incu
hmmmm....
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>>502928379
Wouldn't happen on Horde. We love our workers! We love our peons!
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>>502917831
I still find it funny how everyone defends Tipsout in the classic twitch community despite him being a giga toxic raid lead and also a proven scammer IRL
Pilav is the only one with the balls to call him out
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>>502921673
this picture alone makes me want to roll orc instead of troll
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>>502928549
pr00f
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>>502928473
i want her braps
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>>502927614
I still can't decide if I want to resub or not. I think I like the idea of playing wow more than actually playing it.
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>seanigs and auzzie cucks seething because no server in their wasteland half of the world
>muttoids will have to share a server with them
pure kino
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>>502928504
Are peons an actual sub-race of orcs, or do orc mothers club 80% of their babies on the head as a sort of peon tax.
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>>502928379
Humans are actually the most kiked race except for goblins in existance. The fact that their human campaign in warcraft 3 is about racism le bad and doing the right thing no matter the cost le bad is a predicament towards the faction being flooded with reddit drones.

Meanwhile Horde is very nationalistic, is ruled by a "dictator" (retail made them get rid of the concept of warchief) that can be challenged by anyone. Not heritadary so kikes cant pass down their little nepobabies either.
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>>502928549
pilav always called out people, its why they shun him out of the onlyfangs grift, he decided to quit wow since he cant make a profit out of it because of that. (its kinda retarded if you ask me he could stream fresh and he would make money) but the dude is shredded and probably has a real job, i would do the same desu.
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>>502928689
Yeah and that's how they got Garrosh, biggest retard in WoW history
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>>502928473
>>502928470
There are more humans in stormwind than disguised onyxia. The rest of the kingdom was just okay with that horrible injustice? Humans are as opportunistic as goblins.
>>502928504
Unironically true. The horde gives jobs to the mentally deficient(peons) to have them contribute to society and feel useful to the horde.
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what's so special about this fresh? is blizzard baiting in a bunch of normies to keep the servers alive or something?
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>>502928754
Garrosh was based. Shut your dirty non-orc mouth, swine.
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>>502928757
the nobility (house of nobles) was in charge of paying the stonemasons. onyxia infiltrated the entire noble caste and manipulated them to not pay the workers. the kingdom of course didnt tolerate it because a riot happened that killed varian's wife
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>>502928689
>one lives in palaces, wear shoes and is a beacon of civilization until they got turned racist by dreadlords (see: illegal inter-dimensional jews)
>the other lives in mudhuts, don't wear shoes and makes detroit look like an utopia
Fucking zoomers and their love for negro "culture" m8
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>>502928681
peons are the low class mentally challenged orcs, but thats ok! they still contribute and are compensated fairly.
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>tfw setting all addons up
>takes like 1 hour
>know this would filter 99% of the average gaming community and all low IQ fps players

every game needs some gate mechanic like that.
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>>502928827
It has PVP disabled so it's only for parsies
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>>502928754
>biggest retard in WoW history
Also, ironically, a "nepobaby" too, kek
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>>502928871
It's almost like the king should have ruled his kingdom himself and not been a retard. Should have stayed a gladiator.
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>Roll warrior or you won't get a raid spot in TBC
>Implying anyone will still be playing this in a year
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>>502928882
Orcs wear shoes?
Orcs also built fortresses
Also humans lost in warcraft 1
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>>502929004
problem is stormwind is such a huge kingdom that its impossible to rule it just by yourself. will agree he should've stayed a gladiator tho
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>>502927505
centaur'd
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Can we all just agree that night elves are the bad guys of wow and leave it at that?
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>>502928968
Garrosh wasn't a nepobaby you dumb lorelet
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>>502929186
>whinny manchild who got his promotion only because his dad was the best friend of the current leader isn't a nepobaby
Retard.
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>want to roll human to get that sense of wonder and journey
>have to play with minmaxing femhuman trannies and dumb mouth breathing femnelf retards
Think im gonna skip myself the hassle and just download a private server I can play solo
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>>502929180
i wonder who could be behind this post
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>>502929323
>kingdoms are literal nepobabies
>an orc chief being good at his job in northrend is a nepobaby because his dad was a great warrior
You fucking retard. Garrosh had to prove himself. Varian got his leadership status by birthright.
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>>502929528
>whataboutism
>defending nepobabies
Are you American? Isn't a bit early for you?
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>>502929632
Except garrosh isnt a nepobaby
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>>502929736
So, why was him chosen as leader in Northrend over other veterans?
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>>502929407
I really want to play Alliance on pvp server but those two characters you named are seriously holding me back.
These guys absolutely infest the Alliance and are useless in world pvp
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>>502929632
its almost bedtime in america tho
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>>502929180
Absolutely. Especially the females who kidnap little human boys into their forest dens to do with as they please.
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>>502929867
>its almost bedtime
>0300-0600AM
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>tfw no cute fem humie pala who would only pocket you cute fem warrior
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>>502929867
>going to sleep at 6:AM
Based NEET.

>b-but he might californian
Not how he bootlicks the nepobabies.
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>>502929998
I always cum instantly when she winks at me while fucking some kind of beast.
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>>502929846
Because he actually booked results?
>garrosh was hailed as a war hero from his succes in Northrend, the people were hailing for a true orc bowing to no human
Like you I said, you're a little lorelet but thats okay.
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>>502930209
assumi should fuck human men
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https://x.com/FwoiblesWoW/status/1859110827238060370
>pvp/hc is USE
>pvp is USW
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>>502930285
>garrosh was made leader due his future success (carried by saurfang and other horde veterans, BTW)
Are you legally retarded?
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>>502930404
>https://x.com/FwoiblesWoW/status/1859110827238060370
PVE Realm is west...

time to roll pvp then
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>>502930410
Saurfang were his advisors
You keep being a fucking retard more and more with every post you make
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>>502930404
tichondrius is usw
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where are the healsluts show yourself.
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>>502930617
heyy
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>>502930470
So he was made the boss because his father, only won thanks to his "advisors" (and the Alliance, lol) and every of his own decisions was a giant fuck-up so he isn't a nepobaby? Thanks for proving my point, you mongoloid.
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>>502930047
I woke up at 11 pm
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>>502930669
You keep putting words in my mouth and building up straw mans, you are a fucking retard bitch and should just continue playing your retarded ret pally fucking dipshit.
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>>502930773
>hurr durr I'm retarded
I know.

So tell me again, why was Garrosh made leader in the first place?
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how do people see the fresh servers on the list?
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>>502930404
why not just have na servers in the middle?
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>>502930958
You need a Bnet gold account.
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WHY THE FUCK IS THE EU RELEASE AT THE SAME TIME AS THE NA RELEASE

FUCKING NIGGERS
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>>502930957
Because he led his people to survival despite the harsh conditions in outland and Thrall recognised that.
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>>502929998
sup bro want sum healin
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>>502931116
It's great actually, all the retard sweats can pull an all-nighter fighting for tags while I can login at 11 PM, reserve my names, wake up at 6 AM and play the starter zone in peace.
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>>502931187
>he led his people
He literally didn't. He was a depressed whinny manchild. You just like him due self-insert, right? I bet you wish you were a nepobaby too, that way your retarded ass could be carried by competent people (see: saurfang and co).
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>>502931376
>t. never played fresh
there is no "peace", if you aren't ahead of the pack you never will, unless you wait 3 months to play
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>>502931376
>wake up at 6 AM and play the starter zone in peace
lol
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>>502931376
>thinks he can play the starter zone in peace on a fucking weekend

lmao
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>>502931376
Haahhahaha babbys first fresh?
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HUNTER BVLLS
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>>502931116
So I can play all night and all morning and be even more ahead of the pack than usual.
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>>502931376
bro people are going to be in queue for hours and when you wake up you cant even get in until its saturday and the entire starting zone is one dad gamer ocean
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Levelling as Sub Rogue
Fuck Combat
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>>502931534
thanks for getting ahead of the pack bro ill heal your dungeon even though you are 5 levels ahead of me tho
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>>502931050
The PvP server will be.
The "East" servers are always based in Chicago.
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>>502931410
>He was a depressed whinny manchild
He wasn't, he was just depressed that his father was responsible for the downfall of his race you fucking retard.
He still led his people in a literal alien world full of demons, ogres and gronns right next to them.
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>>502931579
you need to pull a 24hr sesh and then sleep no more than 6hrs and then pull a 16hr sesh, then you might be ahead of the pack
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>>502931693
I see
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>>502931653
Please don’t (You) me again thanks
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>>502931623
endurance alone is better than the entire sub tree for leveling
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>>502931772
go back nigger
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>502931873
Kys balding yuro retard
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>>502928401
you obviously
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>>502931579
Bro one night and morning isn't enough, you need to be like Ahmpy and do one 38 hour sesh, sleep for 4 hours, do 18 hours, sleep 4 hours, do 18 hours, get max level, sleep for 6 hours, start grinding Pre-BiS

Imagine not being level 60 after three days lmao pathetic dadgame shitter I am NEVER going to invite you into my Strat dungeons I will have 50000 gold while you're still questing in Hillsbrad you dumb fucking retard KEKINSANE
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>>502931782
killing people is worth levelling a day slower because I'm not a pve cuck
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>streamers contained in the hardcore server
>all the sweaty minmax parse trannies will go there
ngl this looks promising.
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>>502931981
trying too hard
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I'm going to be an absolute nightmare sl lock for hordies when I hit 60. you can't escape the duel spec even in horde
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>>502931738
>He still led his people in a literal alien world full of demons, ogres and gronns right next to them.
Snacktually it's not an alien world, it's his home planet. In addition he did not lead them, Greatmother Geyah did. He was in charge of their military.
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>>502932069
i'm playing hc with self-found mode. that way everyone who targets me knows i didn't metatranny but also didn't buy chang gold

it's just a win:win
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>>502932053
People ahead of the pack literally never fight in PvP servers. You'll know this if you weren't a fucking casual.
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>NEET
>can play +24 hours with no sleep
>still won’t be anywhere near the sweatiest retards who are going to hit 60 within the first week

Why even bother
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If you aren't level 60 by the 29th you might as well uninstall, you will never get into any guilds, you will get ganked, you will be a peasant while I'm a T1 decked out god it's so funny seeing you boomer dadgamers thinking this time is the one when you lack the stamina and willpower to even reach 60 in a week.

Go take a nap gramps while I AoE farm another 7 levels in 10 hours with my spellcleave group
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>>502932597
>has unlimited free time
>still can't fucking get his shit together and level
truly a neet
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>>502932430
One time two horde niggers tried ganking me on my rogue while questing in the badlands and I managed to kill them both (they were a warrior / rogue) with blade flurry / riposte procs
It felt so good
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>>502932654
now try having sex
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>>502932654
>If you aren't level 60 by the 29th you might as well uninstall
+30 gamer here this will be easy, I'm also buying gold right away at 60. Even if 100g are 500€. That's peanuts for me.
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>>502932430
they won't really have a choice if I open on them though will they
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>>502932829
Based gold buyer
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>>502931450
>>502931493
>>502931524
fresh is doa, plus layering. it will never be an issue.
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>>502932654
i WILL live in the scar getting every single arcane crystal and you WILL pay out the ass for them
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>roll alliance
>have to play with minmaxing femhuman trannies
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People have forgotten how insane the 45-60 vanilla really grind is.

I can already see another cryboomering coming how it's impossible to hit 60 in three weeks because they have 8 jobs and 19 children. Mark my words two weeks in reddit is going to ask for XP boosts.
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Horder or Alliance rogue ?
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>>502933030
It's not that bad desu, especially when you start farming prebis stuff
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>>502931616
there won't be any queues that's why they have megaservers. man you boomers are so out of touch.
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>>502933030
>two weeks in

I’m asking for them right now.
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>>502932654
>If you aren't level 60 by the 29th you might as well uninstall,
why?
> you will never get into any guild
why would i join a guild in the first place
>you will get ganked
not unless i type /pvp
> you will be a peasant while I'm a T1 decked out god
cool
>Go take a nap gramps while I AoE farm another 7 levels in 10 hours with my spellcleave group
or, i'm going to enjoy 150 hrs of fun lvling up adventures with random people i meet and connect with while you get to lvl 60 in your zoomertrooncord group posting twitch chat emotes and repeating the same meme drivel and then get bored and quit by the time i'm still not lvl 60
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>>502932883
Not really since he'll come for revenge and you both lose by wasting time and turning packlets. You can gank him and leave the zone, but that will be inefficient and turn you into a packlet. Mutual assured destruction.
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Male Night Elf Hunter or Male Dwarf Hunter?
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>>502932298
>fresh economy
>ssf to not participate in economy
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>>502932654
You just know this faggot plays femhuman with lol or qt in his name
Kys tranny
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Bros I can't decide if I want to play a priest or a druid
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>>502933180
male night elf hunter is peak vanilla SOVL
male dwarf hunter is for balding boomers with glasses & NASA t-shirts
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>>502933208
I play female troll mage bcs their the most optimal gold making race lol
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>>502933204
>meh, i usually don't use the AH besides for buying cheap gear and just vendor shit i cant equip anyway, but yes it will make the game harder, that's the point.
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Is anyone playing hardcore? I kind of want to do it but all the classes I want to play are too fun in PvP to pass that aspect of the game up
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>>502933410
>anime
>ESL
>goldseller
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>>502933030
just spam ZulFarrak, BRD arena runs and Strath?
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>you can buy a level 60 for literally $13 USD

Uh oh stinky
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>>502933475
every streamer
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>>502933475
Fresh PvP servers only come once in a while and it's the only time where everyone is somewhat on the same playing field.

Hardcore will always get new players, that's the point. It will remain the same even one year in.
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>>502933612
look at this reddit spacer he's going to the moon
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>>502933607
the only way it's that cheap is if it's a bot playing your account
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>joins your group
>demands certain loot
>starts preaching to other players that they don't use the correct items or build
>accidently fucks up causing the group to wipe
>blames other people and leaves
never get these fucking trannies in your group
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>>502933085
When we first launch on November 21 at 2:00 p.m. PST, we expect some queuing, as we will gradually increase realm capacity caps in real time to fit the number of players logging in. We ask for your patience and understanding if you encounter a queue right after launch time.

bro they are literally warning you about this shit in the announcement post
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>>502933374
damn.. both sound based
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>>502933475
hardcore not even having BGs completely kills it for me
pvp is just too core to classic
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>>502933736
since I'm the tank, the complaining will be zero, or you get kicked, simple as.
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>>502933736
>"LF4M BRD HoJ HR"
>is a fucking rogue
The gall.
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>Classes/races I want to play:
Undead rogue
Orc Shaman
Orc Warrior
Undead Priest
Tauren Druid
Orc Warlock
Nelf Hunter (troll?)
Human Paladin
??? Mage
Tauren Warrior
>classes I can play seriously
2 at most
>time to play every class I want to play in vanilla
10 characters = 5 fresh. 5 fresh = 25 years.

I will be done playing vanilla in 2050. Then I can finally move on.
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>>502933736
I will not be inviting any female human rogue "pumpers" no thank you
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Help me bros I don't know which class to choose.

>Rogue: epic and based but also kind of a meme and also will be playing on high ping so maybe shit
>Mage: epic and might actually get raid gear, easy parties and levelling but not high enough meme potential in wpvp
>Shadow priest: absolute gamer mega meme class but completely committed to the meme will mean i am not getting jack shit for dungeon or raid gear unless i put on the dress will basically have to wait until wave 2 to get geared
>ele shaman: same issue as shadow priest but with the added bonus that i would be a god in bgs total dogshit to level tho

What the fuck do i play bros?
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>>502933759
illiterate.
a <5m queue while they gauge player count for flipping the power button on the servers is nothing like classic or tbc or wotlk queues.
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>still no cute sissydin to freedom you
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>>502933929
Didn’t you hear they’re adding dual spec?
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>>502933929
how do you figure mage doesn't have WPvP potential?
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>>502933929
>easy parties and levelling but not high enough meme potential in wpvp
mage and rogue are the wpvp classes what are you smoking
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>>502933929
Everyone and their mother is playing mage and rogue.

You'll never get into a raid playing as either unless you are in the clique.
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>>502933736
>demands certain loot
ITS ALWAYS
ALWAYS
HUMAN FEMALES

I SERIOUSLY DONT FUCKING GET IT
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>>502934104
>>502934123
I didn't say it was bad in wpvp i said it doesn't have memes, the class actually revolves around playing it and using CC and movement and not just smashing the funny button for instant kills
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where the fuck are hte hardcore servers
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>>502934234
your PoM pyro, sir? please redeem it
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>>502934234
>the class actually revolves around playing it and using CC and movement and not just smashing the funny button for instant kills
yes, mage is the highest skill class in pvp that for sure, you have so many outplays with blink and nova.
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>>502934351
erm, based?
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>was mining and herb in 2019
Should I actually take blacksmith or some meme shit like engineering. I want to play more pvp this time.
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>>502934558
>engineering
>”meme”

Eng is BiS in PvP you retard
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>>502934631
yea that's why I asked, don't need to call me retard, faggot.
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Yeah, I’m rolling ret. Full bis with corrupted ashbringer. Hordies will fear my holy steel.
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>>502933876
I just play Druid to be a discount version of all of them

Bearform = discount Warrior, you get (Feral) Charge which is warriors most fun ability, swipe = cleave, demoralizing shout, Taunt, etc.
Caster form = discount Priest, you get big heals, Smite and SW:P.
Catform = discount rogue, Prowl is Cheap Shot, Shred is Backstab, Rip is Rupture
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priest or hunter for pvp?
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>>502934682
You will wear the dress, and you will devote your life to warrior chad.
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cata status?
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>>502934661
Ok my bad, nigger
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yeah as a warrior i will pretty much never invite a paladin, rogue or hunter. clothies only. let them fight amongst loot for scraps while i get all the important, real loot
druids are cool too, ill happily take one of any spec.
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what's the best wpvp build for druids?
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people are talking about getting invited to raids or not
but isnt the r14 gear completely free now?
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>>502934902
What's wrong with rogues? Paladins if they are not healers never invite them they will literally roll on everything.
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>>502934803
MoP waiting room full of soon to be lfr raiders
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>>502935016
it's not "free" it's just not for poopsocks only. You still have to pvp a lot, you just can shower and go see the sun occasionally now
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>>502935016
rank gear is only in phase 2 and there's no way you get to rank 14 any time soon. Like if you think rank 14 is free you're retarded, you will still need to play 24/7 to compete against the other neets who will not want you to rank up.
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>>502935006
Depends on gear. HotW while leveling and with strength+agi+stamina.

Balance-Resto at 60.
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>>502933068
Undead Rogue for maximum Alliancetranny rage
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>>502935240
it also even if it was free you still need 1-2 months? Someone correct me here, of ranking to even get rank 14. You make it sound everybody will run around in rank 14 gear, which won't be the case.
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>don't know what race I want to play
>don't know what class I want to play
>don't even know which FACTION I want to play
>fresh is literally tomorrow
It's over. I'm not gonna make it bros, see you all next fresh in 5 years....
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>>502935240
>if you think rank 14 is free you're retarded
>will still need to play 24/7 to compete
Someone doesn't know how Classic Classic works.
Rank is literally free, tardo, you just need to farm HKs now.
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>>502935579
Tauren Warrior.
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>>502935579
Don't wowwy fwend you can awways wog wack winto wetail and pway with youw favowite fwuffy wace xD
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I cant wait to solo farm my SGC using the wall jump strat
We are so fucking back
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>I still dont have a good name for my rogue
Fresh is tomorrow fuck fuck fuck
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shadow priest or rogue?
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>>502935890
Rogue, Shadow Priest is a giant meme in vanilla.
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>>502935579
last classic I started like 40 different characters and only got above level 20 twice
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>>502933607
Where can I do this? Time is more valuable than money for me.
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>>502935757
That's my fox...
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RETOILETS ARE INBOUND
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specs I might play:
>arcane mage
>boomkin
>spriest
>ass rogal
>surv hunt

specs I shan't play
>anything meta
lol this game is so fucking easy niggers there is nothing fun about playing the same boring shit over and over
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>>502935240
>you will still need to play 24/7 to compete against the other neets who will not want you to rank up
they made it so gamer dads get rank 14 aswell anon
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Retail won
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>>502936398
>specs not included in any group or raid content
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is the pvp server US east or west
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>>502936529
yea I know mc is really hard without the perfect comp including 28 browns
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>>502936601
East
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why don't they just put US servers in the middle of the country instead of east or west coast?
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>>502936729
ok its fucking over for me then
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>>502936743
The fact that I already have to play with c*lifornians is bad enough don't make it worse
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So we are merging or not
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>>502936845
merge dn
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>>502935796
I am so glad I don't need to farm that item
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>>502921572
If you fantasize about killing humans you are the ultimate cuckold. I log in so I can kill no shoe freaks
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>>502935796
can't wait to charge warriors gold for two manning it with them on my sham
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>>502936830
OCEbros...
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Bros whats a fun dps spec in m+?
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>>502935041
i want the one handers too. some leather at higher levels is also bis, as is hoj :)
nah fuck all paladins. even the "im a healer bro" cunts will do a cheeky need on a 2hander or plate for their heckin leveling. idgaf about your leveling a priest levels too and wont steal my gear so i just take them
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>>502937526
EVERYONE
KILL HIM!
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Does WotlK classic still exist?
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So we just merged... change general name to /wowg/ next fags
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>>502937608
nah, you can keep your avatarfags
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>>502937587
We merged so we can discuss m+ here now.
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druid sounds fun to level but how do you even decide what stats you want on your gear? it looks like you basically want a bit of everything?
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OMG YES /wowg/ and /wowcg/ together such love
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almost as good as /wpsg/ and /heals/ merger
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Those retarded troons at blizzard fucked gates in arenas so you can now just walk through what the fuck
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Whichn
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>>502937694
uhm sweaty, we are one general thread now
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wake me up when we merge with /xivg/
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>>502937815
left
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somebody keep these filthy retoilets away from me
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>>502937815
your tier helm? It isn't showing, please do the needful and click on the hide helm box
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>>502937718
Str+agi+stam+spirit while leveling cat, keep a set with Int and spirit in your bags/bank for when you wanna heal a dungo.

80% of druids hybrid ability comes from their gear, not their talents.
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/wowg/ + /wowcg/ fresh guild when
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>can't get my friend to healslut for me
I don't think I will enjoy pvp... without a slutty paladin on my side...
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>>502937806
Based, video?
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Bear is so smooth brain in m+
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>>502937997
find onr to adopt while leveling, making sure to assert that they are joining YOUR group, and they are YOUR healer
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Is the fresh start thing just for people who want to raid and experience original progression? I don't care about raiding, I just want to do the vanilla and TBC story
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What's the default keybind for the new group tool?
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Which one is the bottom and top between /wowcg/ and /wowg/?
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>>502938128
the new servers will start on vanilla and progress to tbc in a year.
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>>502938230
/wowg/ poster are bottom, but they like that.
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>>502938230
retoilets are the cucks watching from the side
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>>502938128
it's a fresh server but you don't have to raid if you don't want to. As >>502938313 said the server progresses to TBC later on
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>>502938230
me as /wpsg/ watching from the shadows (cucked)
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>>502937235
is there any reason they cant have a pvp server on US west?? i could live on 140-200ms but US east is just cooked
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can i still post goon?
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Be nice to /wowg/ frens
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>>502937718
you are literally just a rogue who can self heal when leveling
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>>502938473
You're allowed to post goon in /wowcg/ those are most of our OPs actually
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How is the ping to US east from aus east coast?
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>>502938473
damn did they add a model to the shadowy figure from SoD? Nice, I bet she has nice feet
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LFM ONYXIA HEAD, BAGS AND SWORD HR NEED TANK
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>>502938642
extremely bad, it's basically the completely opposite side of the globe
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>>502938473
sure
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>>502938589
Lovely, so which race and class for this feel?? (classic classes n races only up to tbc)
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>>502938664
cute sweaty fem humie!!
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>>502938689
I guess I won't be losing another few years of my life to WoW then, I'll take the blessing in disguise.
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>>502938723
female nelfie or humie
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>>502938723
femhumie priest
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lol
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male night elf druid
male human warlock
male troll shaman
the ULTIMATE classic adventure trilogy
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>>502938723
fem belf holy priest
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Why are mmos trooncentral?
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>>502938772
just play on the west coast pve server
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>>502938772
>nigga cant win duels on 400 ping
ngmi
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>>502938884
>pve
I think I'll pass
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>>502938642
Im getting 145ms to US west and 195ms to US east
>>502938884
fuck that pve is for abo lovers
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>>502939097
>>502938642

150-200ms is perfectly playable
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>>502939097
195ms is completely playable
don't be a fag
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>>502938128
A fresh server is a rare opportunity. Whitemane and other established Classic Era servers are very gold inflated and GDKP's run rampant. There are bots and the entire LFG chat is just 3rd worlders spamming dungeon boosts.

What's even more disgusting is the people who sit their character from 1-60 in dungeons AFK getting boosted and paying for it with bought gold. at that point, why even play??

All of this will be gone at least for the first week or two. Even just to play TBC, I'm excited for the servers. I actually enjoyed the dungeons and heroics and how specs felt stronger while still having shortcomings.

>I just want to do the vanilla and TBC story
not sure what you mean since the storylines in the games culminate with raids, and it only got worse as time went on. now the entire game is centered around Marvel characters instead of players uncovering conspiracies and learning about the world from 1-60.

If you care about the story of vanilla, I'd suggest playing warcraft 3 or at least reading/watching its lore as it sets up vanilla wow. A guy named Lawllin made a good video establishing all the lore of vanilla if you want to spoil it as there are lots of questlines and villains that also change based on your faction.

Just play a hunter or warlock so you can solo quest and savory every nook and cranny of the world. Play at your own pace and do the occasional dungeon. there's also an addon with AI voice packs that fully voices the quest texts, it is generated from the original 2004 character voices.

>>502938664
I remember kek'ing hard when people started doing Gruul GDKPs with DST hard reserved and adding a miniscule amount to the pot if it drops while also taking cuts for tanks and healers.

I would spam it to f with people and got a lot of whispers.
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>>502938313
>>502938435
I see. So if I'm in a rush to do TBC and vanilla, I should just play a normal classic server, then what, do like a private server for WotLK? And then cata classic?
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how is ele/resto shaman in solo world PVP?
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>>502939332
>>502939237
It's 100% playable for a ranged class but I doubt melee will be much fun in pvp at that ping.
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>>502939237
>>502939332
im pinging from NZ so it will be +30-40ms for east coast AU
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>>502939529
uhm if they survive your oneshot it's ogre
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>>502939467
>that pic
uhh
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>>502939734
I'm 190 to Chicago from SA can't be worse from east coast
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>>502939529
A complete meme. Good players will just CC you and gib your totems.

You only play shaman to press your chainheal and WF totem in raid and to play the slotmachine class (Enhance, oneshot some poor clothe 1 in a 100 times)
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>>502939492
If you want to rush through Vanilla/TBC/Wrath ASAP then I'm pretty sure you can just play a private server right now. Warmane has like 7x EXP settings or some shit so you can zoom through everything.
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>>502939492
The normal era classic servers are only vanilla so if you want to play tbc you will want to play the new servers coming out tomorrow. By the time the servers progress to tbc cata classic will be on mists of pandaria. No idea for wrath experience at this point
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>>502933736
>>502933856
>>502933886
>>502934173
I am a female human rogue player who will be HR'ing the following items:
Leggings of the Fang
Lavishly Jeweled Ring (+2 agi)
Cruel Barb
Blackened Defias Armor
Cape of the Brotherhood
Silverlane Family Seal
Meteor Shard
Prison Shank
Swinetusk Shank
Torturing Poker
Hypnotic Blade (rogue weapon)
Coldrage Dagger
Gahz'rilla Fang
Heart of Noxxion
Phytoskin Spaulders
Satyr's Lash
Albino Crocscale Boots
Blade of Eternal Darkness (rogue weapon)
...and ALL of my prebis >w<
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Did they deploy the LFG tool on Era servers? How do you open it? I can't find anything related in keybinds
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>>502939492
you can play classic era servers (the original servers from 20191 that are still running) right now since all of the raids are already out and you don't need to wait for phases. Level to 60 on your class then do the content as you wish. I don't think there are any significantly populated TBC private servers right now, but you can check the /wowpsg/ and ask there.


>do like a private server for WotLK? And then cata classic?
for wotlk you can play on warmane. cata classic might be over by the time you get to wrath since actibliz already announced they're moving onto mists of pandaria. Not sure why you'd want to play cata. just go play retail since the quests are all the same.
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>they broke addons for fresh
bros fucking really?
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sweaty fem humies hard ressing my HoJ... cute...
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>You will most likely make 900 gold while grinding this reputation, especially if you are a Skinner.
Yep going to farm this mount while Raids open up!
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>>502940135
What happen
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>>502939529
people are being stupid, ele sham is one of the strongest duelers in the game and thus one of the best wpvpers
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>>502940358
an update bricked the addonds prob for fresh
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>>502940358
>>502940135

They didn't break shit, just released new version of Classic which means addons need ti be updated

>>502940412

Wonder if that's still the case when EM doesn't batch any more. I fully expect to have to use Engineering to be able to get a cast off
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tasteful goon content inside
https://files.catbox.moe/eudslb.jpeg
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>addons loaded
>class, race, server decided
>list of names I want
>playlist to zone out to

I am so fucking ready
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>>502940507
>Retail
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>>502940505
if it doesn't work on fresh (it probably won't) you just go NS so it's still very strong
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>>502940526
>steals at least 12 of your names with my macro script in the first 2 seconds of the servers being up
it's over
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>>502916452
I still can't tell if him going to prison was a joke or no, he looks like a gypo so it wouldn't be that surprising.
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>>502940426
Is there a post stating that or something, I've been fucking around with Classic addons up until 5 minutes ago and haven't seen anything
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>>502940412
I don't see how you ever kill a good rogue, hunter, or warlock.
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so why are we merging again
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>>502940526
>using a playlist instead of the game's own music
cringe
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>>502940634
they c cant blizzard just lock to two characters for fresh or hell even one
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How much of wows story do I have to know to play cata for the first time. I know very little of wows story. I will be starting Cata and know nothing before that
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>human male warlock
>SUCCubus summoned
>fem nelf druid heal sissy at my side
>killing mudhut hordes in STV
oh yea, it's gaming time
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>>502940774
a /wowg/ /wowcg/ divided... wil not survive
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>>502940602
aight so in order to keep up the classic spirit, posting old school nude mods for vanilla
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>>502940774
ffxiv tranny raid
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>>502940772
rogues and hunters can't burst you down because of mail + shield, also poison cleanse totem fucks rogues hard
warlocks are the only really hard fight, have to hope for tremor to not be shit
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>>502940956
>speaking in delayed speech like npcs
kek
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>>502941034
https://files.catbox.moe/fkk84s.jpeg
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I still don’t know what to play and the games about to come out *sobs*
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>>502941142
how about nyo
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>>502941158
why does the 2nd one have green nips
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>>502940615

EM doesn't work on Era and probably won't work on Fresh but it will hurt Ele's levelling speed. Wondering whether I should stay Enh, how much worse is it in PvP?
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>>502941036
>*curse of tongues you*

Enjoy spamming your 17 second heal

>*still interrupts it at the very end with fellqt*
>*while being dotted up with magic and curses you can't dispel*

Shamans are free kills for warlocks. Enhance unironically is their scariest spec for a lock.
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should i post my cum tribute here
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>>502941286
ele is still going to be better than enhance unless you can snag a good weapon from a dungeon, good luck rolling against the two+ warriors in the group though
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>>502941257
idk texture bug i guess
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>>502941349
Yes
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>>502941339
>>*curse of tongues you*
your grounding totem? your restorative pot? please do use the items and clean your debuffs sar
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i’m going to play pve horde and you can’t stop me
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Was checkin the blizz forums looking for discussion about an oce server and god damn, there really is some awful blizzard bootlickers over there. How long has it been that bad?
I only care about vanilla and tbc so never interacted with these people outside of that
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>>502941349
please
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>>502941532
cumtrib it is, rate
https://files.catbox.moe/j0o1kw.mov
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>playing anything other than Undead Rogue on vanilla
I can kill you naked while wearing a lvl 1 dagger lmao
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>>502941682
Same.
Literally the only realm/faction combo that has the slightest chance of being chill.
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>>502939994
No one will join your groups lol
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is male troll priest kino on pvp?
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Do i make zhaman zage or zarlock for maximum comfy hc fresh zzz
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>>502941921
Yeah shadowguard + the blackout talent is a hoot. Rogues fucking hate it.
Touch of weakness is pretty shit, but at least you can pointlessly throw it out on raid bosses without the debuff limit now too
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>>502941856
Tauren Warrior because orcs are for tryhards.
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>priest lfg
how do you respond?
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>>502927365
pocket money
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>>502936398
arcane mage isn't bad, 5 arcane missile with 0 pushback is actually pretty good. it's just that frost is the most op lvling spec in the game so it looks bad.
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>>502942110
Insta invite
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>>502942249
Thanks man I just hit lvl 40 and specced into shadowform. Can't wait to dps for this group
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>>502941861
yes they will because I'm cute :3
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Holy Pally or Hunter?
Is it hard to find groups as a hunter or are they still fairly in demand?
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>>502941827
oh wowzerz! an enemy player, i guess i won't flag myself for pvp by typing /pvp
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>>502917579
based
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>>502942312
Dilate
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IS THE HIGH RESOLUTION TEXTURES WORTH THE INSTALL SIZE FOR CATACLYSM CLASSIC
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there's cataclysm classic?
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>>502941793
2/10
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Oh boy, I can't wait to play my one button class starting tomorrow!
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>>502942656
aight ill do a better on in the future with not a shitty phone
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>>502942486
but I don't do that anon..
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rogue or mage what shoulod i level first which is best for rank 14 gear ? and whats best for early pvp ?
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will we be able to clone our characters to Era at the end of vanilla?
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>>502917579
Dios mío...Espíritu del Señor. Espíritu de Dios, Padre, Hijo y Espíritu Santo, Santísima Trinidad, Virgen Inmaculada, ángeles, arcángeles y santos del paraíso, descended sobre mí. Fúndeme, Señor, lléname de ti. Expulsa de mi todas las fuerzas del mal, aniquílas, destrúyelas. Expulsa de mí los maleficos, la magia negra, el ogro de las tinieblas, el luz extinguido, el americano... Por favor, destruye la infestación diabólica; todo lo que es mal, pecado, envidia, celos y perfidia; la enfermedad física, psíquica, moral, espiritual y diabólica... destruye al monstruo, a la creatura... Quema a este mal en el infierno, para que nunca más me toquen a mí ni a ningun ser. Ordeno y mando con la fuerza de Dios omnipotente, en nombre de Jesucristo Salvador, por intermedio de la Virgen Inmaculada, a todos los espíritus inmundos, a inmediatamente, que me abandonen definitivamente y que se vayan al infierno eterno. El chupa-chupacabras no puede triunfar, el monstruo, el abominación... debe morir... Encadenado por San Miguel arcángel, por San Gabriel, por San Rafael, aplastado bajo el talón de la Virgen Santísima Inmaculada, aleja el aberración genetíca, al ogro de las Americas... Amén.
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>>502943236
slow
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>a second chance at scarab lord
>a second chance at r14 title
>a second chance at warglaives
>a second chance at a'lar
>a second chance at tbc titles like hand of a'dal

I don't think people realize just how big these anniversary servers are. I think a lot of people are going to fomo into these servers. I think this will be big.
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What's the point of HC Fresh?

Just having streamer servers?
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>>502943427
pretty much
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>>502943357
In three years we will have new servers, so I think fomo is out of the window. Not like any of those things matter anyway, much less so now.
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>every retard using the exact same restedXP guide
>everyone doing the exact same zones, quests
>people actually pay money so they can get stuck in congested zones with gazillions of other players
>actually paying money to get stuck in a traffic jam and level slower than people going off the beaten track

I'm going to PvP in every zone which RestedXP recommends because you just know these mouthbreathers can't actually think for themselves.
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>>502929998
Hi. Server?
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>>502943620
Fengus.
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>>502943357
>bunch of shit nobody cares about enthusiast
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>>502943357
>A second chance
It's third actually.
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>>502943357
imagine the seething when classic characters finally merge with retail accounts after blizzard insisted over and over it would never ever happen
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>>502943357
>I don't think people realize just how big these anniversary servers are.
Every other person playing Classic was playing like they'd finally gotten their chance to go back in time and become fucking prom queen. People are aware.
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>>502943620
need a night elf to dump a thick warm sloppy log down my throat
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>>502943771
Hi Jose. A "second chance" is just a phrase, it doesn't have to literally mean "second."

Consider yourself lucky. I'm not even charging you for this lesson.
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>>502943679
No can do, sorry.
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>>502943620
shewentgreen.com
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>>502943921
You sound resentful that I pointed our your mistake there.
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>>502943357
most be the most pathetic wow player, collecting, and collecting in classic in hopes that it transfers to retail some day
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>>502934137
Just AV to rank 14

You can clear naxx in R14 gear as mage+Bloodvine/Rogue+Darkmantle
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>>502944032
I'm not the poster you responded to. but regardless, they're right right, and you're wrong.
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I did orc warrior in vanilla and dwarf priest in classic 2019.
This time around I wanna go horde again since I just know the zones and travel paths better. Thinking shaman, hunter or lock. But man if I gotta do that god damn water totem quest one more time I’ll blow my brains out. But I also sorta wanna heal and they seem fun. Druids any good?
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>>502944210
No, not really.
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>>502934137
and you can take 10 mages and 10 rogues for any 40man because they do the most damage anyways
so whats your point
the distribution is as it should be, good classes are more represented than shit niche classes like druid
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>black dragonscale armor
>arcanite reaper
>windfury
yeah I'm thinking its fresh shaman gaming
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>>502944218
good at running away
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>>502944298
lol
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>>502944218
Druids are a great leveling experience, and if you dont mind healing anyway are fun enough healers in raids. As long as you arent a parse boi you'll probably like it. Very easy to get into groups tanking or healing too.
Once you have access to stealth on your main you'll wonder how you'll ever cope again without it.
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>>502912535
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open the servers
stop having them be closed
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What's the class brainpower tier list for raiding?
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>>502944119
R14 won't be out until AQ lol
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>>502943540
>thinking people actually pay money for it
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>>502944840
You'd be surprised at the amount of Blizzard paypiggies who actually do...
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>>502943357
Classic cheevos were worth like 30 % of original ones. Classic classic will be more like 3 %. Nobody cares, pure funserver.
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Play Paladin.
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>play on fresh hardcore till you die and then switch over to the fresh pvp

This seems to be the move.
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>>502943540

I have no choice, I have never levelled Horde and I didn't take time off. Granted, I am using a different guide but it's probably even worse
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>>502943921
>>502944210
mad spic
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Class brainpower raiding tier list
>2 brain cells
Main tank
>0 brain cells
Everyone else

There
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>>502945016
I will sis, I'll look like this too except wear lingerie under the armor
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>>502945163
hardcore nonnies have to go to the pve server, actually, there is no option to go to the pvp one...
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>>502945163
>he doesn't know
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>>502945163
don't think you can transfer over to pvp as it is faction locked
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>>502945163
You can't, hardcore can only transfer to PvE.

Hence PvE will get all the eceleb chasers.
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>>502945163

Can't switch from HC to PvP, only PvE
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>>502945163
You can only transfer to PvE
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>Log onto classic to waste time waiting for fresh release
>3 mins later Ive seen 2 attempts at gatekeeping retailers and 5 twitch emotes
Yeah nah I think i'll dip out. This is like.. Those who missed out on the classic launch that was designed for those that missed out on vanilla.
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warrior leveling as arms or fury?
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LOK'TAR OGAR! FOR THE HORDE!
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>>502945543
arms, arms, arms
fury is 20% miss chance dogwater
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>>502945373
>>502945332
>>502945323
Wowhead is lying?
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>>502945543
Arms until 50ish, then swap to fury.
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>>502945809
yes.
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>>502945543
arms
dw fury will make you want to shoot yourself and if you're going 2h (which you should) might as well play arms
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>>502945809
Of course they are, these are the same retards who can't even keep seperate databases for SoD and vanilla.
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>>502943357
>scarab lord
unless you personally suck every cock on your server (both factions included) and spread your cheeks for every guild member you can forget about that. oh and you need to swipe like crazy to make it in time
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Hello I am getting into classic for the first time tomorrow, I have a few questions.
If I want to play resto shaman, do I spend most of my talent points into resto or do I put some into elemental early.
How hard or awkward is it finding groups for dungeons? I'm very used to only having the stuff where you choose your role and the game does it all for you. I find it was weird asking around for people to play with.
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>>502946086
It’s better to level as Ele/Enh Shaman and go Resto at 60, you can still heal dungeons while levelling
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>>502946086
you level and heal as enhancement while leveling
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>>502943620
Hey, not sure preferable EU PVE.
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>>502946086
I really wonder what kind of person goes to leddit for advice instead of just doing a web search for classic wow character leveling guide
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>>502946274
I was thinking PvP but it's turned out to be a mistake before
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>>502946086
level as enh, keep an int set in bags for dungeons. people will love you. dont join groups with more than 1 warrior. leave groups with a warrior dps
healers always find groups
be prepared because shaman leveling is painful
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>>502946274
>>502946382
So Ally is now rolling PvE?
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>>502946431
They always have for the most part, nobody liked those monofaction """PvP""" servers besides. The only promising thing is "enforced faction balance" this time, but how will it pan out? It's blizzard so let's expect some level of failure.
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>>502946580
>All PvE servers are dead or on Low
Hmmmm.... Yeah the singleplayer experience. I'm starting to think you choose the shit servers.
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>>502946724
The stale ones that are like 5 years old? Yeah no shit anon, people would rather play on "PvP" server that's 99% one faction. Functionally the same as PvE. On launch PvE servers reach high just like PvP
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>>502946431
I just hate wpvp and as melee wpvp is always pure cancer.
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>Kill a fully buffed warrior at songflower wearing T3 on my phase 1 geared frost mage
Didn't even pop a FAP.
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ripped my pajama pants so I'm gonna be mike tysoning this fresh start
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>>502946580
seems like it works for sod, pretty even factions. my only concern is that if horde fills, then locks up, all the bots will flood alliance until horde opens again and locks.
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>>502946913
Yeah something like that is likely. I wonder which side the sweats play anyway
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>>502946823
>>502946842
>Whole reason of Vanilla is WPVP exclusively
>BGs and PvE realms
Vanilla is just so dead lmao.
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>bots flood hardcore
>even if people die or others somehow kill them they get to transfer with all their gold to pve
wonderful, looks like the pvp server is the correct choice
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>>502947000
I've played this game since 2004 wpvp was never good.
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Natural allies in dungeons:

Warrior+any clothie
Warrior+Druid
Druid+any clothie
Druid+Paladin

The "Haha I need it for my offspec xD" groupings:
Warrior+Paladin
Warrior+Shaman
Warrior+Rogue
Druid+Shaman
Priest+any Int/SP user

Know your enemy. Know you friend.
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>>502947000
>digits
000 just like my interest in wpvp lmaooo
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>>502947000
BGs existed in vanilla bro, people always move to BGs over wpvp for honor. Phase 2 on classic was horrible on 99% of servers too.
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>>502947151
>The "Haha I need it for my offspec xD" groupings:
>Warrior+Paladin
So true sis, I almost lost out on SGC by inviting a holy paladin to a BRD. Gorosh spawned but he didn't drop the chest. A hunter has taken HoJ from me. This was before they dire maul and they didn't have access to their super good book trinket.
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what does b.net offer that pserfs don't?
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>>502927037
this guy doesn't like wow nevermind vanilla. he probably just saw it as a vehicle to the social character he is now. not sure how this guy was ever the face of classic before they brought it in
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I've settled on a server class race and name
I am at peace
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>>502947401
he never was the face of classic. he always advocated for retail.
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>>502947551
wasn't he basically spearheading it when nost died? i don't understand where else he came from
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>>502947632
he was always a retail player retard bro, he made gold making guides and shit. it's even in his name
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>>502947632
soda
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it turns out 99% of people don't like having their kinocomfy leveling experience interrupted by pvp
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>>502947401
>>502947632
>the guy who's entire life revolved around his mounts mogs cheevos wanted classic
ok retard.
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>>502947463
Parsiecore?
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>>502947925
>>502947925
>>502947925
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>she uses a guide to level
>She BUYS this guide
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seems like nobody is rolling pvp servers this time
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>we're merging!
>the next op isn't a merge
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>>502946842
Your rogue brah
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>>502929407
>>502929847
Roll a human with me, brothers. Come on
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>>502933876
>I will be done playing vanilla in 2050. Then I can finally move on.
The craziest thing is that between this and people running private progression servers, you might actually be able to do that.
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>>502940867
I’d imagine that reading or watching a summary of the events that set up WoW (Warcraft III and its expansion) and the story up to that point in WoW (vanilla, TBC and WotLK) should tell you everything you need to know.
If you have some time to waste on listening to a podcast about video game stories, I can recommend Platinum WoW’s videos on any of these topics. Otherwise, I imagine just reading a handful of paragraphs on some wikis about the games I mentioned would be enough.

I don’t believe there are many callbacks to the first two RTS games or anything outside of any of the games themselves in Cataclysm, but if you’re already interested in Warcraft then you might as well read up on those or listen to someone talk about them.
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>>502947386
Braindead levels of convenience and a guaranteed large playerbase.

No hate on pservers, but they’re just for different crowds.
Both cater to genuine enthusiasts but do so in different ways, and Blizzard’s offering us also the only way normies will touch it, and personally that’s why I’ve chosen it over Warmane or Ascension for now. I like those, but I want to get my family and friends to play with me and honestly don’t mind the crowd of Classic Era regulars either. I also happen to actually like the Classic Era client.
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>>502952334
Nonsense, the eceleb slaves they pay for will play anything their efriend tells them to
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>>502926146
>not even a us west server
oh no like 20 ms that will barely make a difference on east coast!!



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