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The Wheel has turned once again

Uppity Nidder Edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)
https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y (embed)

>Steamgroup
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Multiplayer guide
>Blitzserver (game hosting service)
https://blitzserver.net
(Dom 6)
https://beta.blitzserver.net/games
>Llamaserver:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582

>Documentation
https://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html

>Tools
>Mod inspector
https://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/
>Wiki
https://illwiki.com/
>Pretender calculator
https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/
>Debug mod (still dom5)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oo492x2cs8vag34/debug509.zip?dl=0
>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)
https://instacalc.com/53495
>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)
https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/

>How do I change the fonts?
Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)

>Fan art
https://thronebooru.booru.org

>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Mod
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Pantokrator >>502305263
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first for total popkill death
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>Moids, Vanarucels and now Indcels now all staging uprisings against the white woman
Pythium, Ulm, go win the game while I'm wiping these stacks.
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>>503121667
Haha Mari you shifty bastard. Good game bro. LAmentation was fun and kino from start to finish. Utgard if you're still in here, I enjoyed our long war.
t. Atlantis
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How much interest is there in some new LA kino? I know it's kind of an unpopular opinion but I've decided it's my favorite age.
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>>503170091
>Cambion gooncel
not even once
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>>503171876
I haven't played Pyrène.
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>>503170091
It's fun. Ulm, C'tis and Lemuria(not for the same reasons as the first two) can rape the age, but it's pretty fun anyways.
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>>503170091
I've got 300 hours in this game and I've never played LA
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>>503174386
Why not? It's never too late to start. There are a lot of really kino nations to choose from. I think it's really my favorite for flavor, no other reason in particular. EA is wacky and fun, MA is the most boring imo but I play all three.
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>>503174386
>300 hours
Newfags are adorable.
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How many hours do you need to even be a Dom expert?
I have over a thousand and still feel like a retard when I play this game
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What's your favorite age, bros? Let's make it a poll.
https://strawpoll.com/1MnwkR2Q5n7
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>>503181756
EA ToT
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>>503181756
The hidden fourth age.
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Never play the map called "Bastion" bros. Both games attempted had to vote for a winner due to how big of a slog it was
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>>503189202
k
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is there a way to magic phase gemburn someone sieging me?
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>>503191645
dont be gay bro, and no.
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>>503191835
my game has gone over 100 turns I'll be as gay as I can to end this nightmare
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>>503191890
I don't understand when people complain that their games are too long.
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>>503192032
because your empire is huge, everyone has every spell and path to throw crazy shit and taking your turn takes hours
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>>503192032
it really depends on the game, some end-game wars are fun

other times both of you are just evenly matched and nothing ever changes besides dudes marching to their deaths over and over
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>>503191645
throw some of the bigger remote attacks or even remote assasinations, one of them is bound to trigger or hit something.
or break siege with a mage with some gems some gear, maybe a ring of returning, and a battlefield wipe scripted.
you may also script it to retreat if the sieging army has no flyers
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>>503170091
Do it, we need an LA game already
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>>503192032
It's too easy to stalemate in Dominions unless you're doing something like armageddon wishing
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>>503181756
It's dead even at 4 votes for each age. That's pretty cool desu.
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>>503198259
I got you famalam. Brand new LA game right here.
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
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>>503202834
>non-sloops
Shan't. I'll play vanilla EA and MA but the trash nation buffs, blood rod buff and starting army buffs are such an improvement over vanilla LA that it's painful to play anything but the top tier nations.
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>>503208171
Oh okay. I don't consoom goysloop in any age. :(
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>>503183095
tot
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>>503200065
I hate this
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>>503179287
been playing since dom4
hundreds of games
thousands of hours
2 MP victories ever (a bunch of blitzses as well)

at a certain point you have to admit you will never be better, no matter how much you play
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>>503200065
based Cirno killing frogniggers
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>>503219970
Suwako, correct this fairry(yes, with a hard "r").
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>>503200065
for being an amateur drawing the light mastery is specially great
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>>503088730
Damn you weren't kidding, he really did AI right after that battle.

A new /domg/ mastermind is born.
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Pray for us as we take the long and arduous journey to see if Xibalba has sent in their turn yet.
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>>503240021
My Xibalba Family is very busy!
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Lamentation Pan here. Guess it's over. Gotta say we were NOT ready for the Atlantis invasion, but also feels like I didn't even have a chance in the first place. I will forever laugh at LA Ragha for losing to LA Pan, but it did basically put me behind everyone else who won their first engagements. Then we were baited into a coalition against Mari which didn't seem to fucking exist. So I fucked off to finish Vaetti. Man was posturing like he wanted to take their cap and throne but must've failed to take em for like 2 or 3 years I swear. So I just walked over and kicked their ass, but was still super small.

Moral of the story: Don't trust what other people say. I was told Mari was being coalitioned, but had no allies when I attacked. I was told Man was SURELY going to get rid of Vaetti who was being a pest. He fucking failed over and over. /domg/ diplo, not even once.
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>>503191645
No. But you can break siege gemburn which is functionally the same since break attempts go before fort storms.
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>>503245770
Mari here. I think an attempt at a coalition was probably made by Ulm? But I astral travelled my army onto his capital- even if all my seraphs died, and killed him relatively fast. Man, similarly, walked into a fight against a couple seraphs with master enslave and lost a huge army. He actually did a lot of damage following, but by then I think you had already started fighting Atlantis. I think one of the highlights of my game was politely asking you to leave me alone, and you agreed. I might have lost if you hadn't. My armies looked strong but that was right after I lost around 1000 pearls worth of angels. It's all in hindsight though.

>>503167490
As ridiculous as it sounds, I genuinely would have lifted that first siege on your capital and left peacefully. Even in the late game, I was confident in my army but I kept sending messages hoping to grab your thrones without backstabbing. I wouldn't have been upset if the horror roulette landed in your favor.
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NEW BIG TURN
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Tango down.
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>>503254041
That's great man. Now Ermor next.
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>>503254629
Give me coordinates.
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>>503254804
Prov #666
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hot lesbo god action
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>>503266689
bikini mud wrestling to determine who's the real pankowoman....
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My friend and I were discussing dynamic magic sites. Eg: big battle with 10000g+ value of units adds 3death income
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>>503267171
Thanks for sharing.
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>>503267279
It's a good idea, Trevor. Look into it.
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>>503266689
Ubar isn't so tough in OneAge now is it?
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>>503267171
It's a fun concept but people would either exploit it or totally ignore it.
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>>503269667
Yeah that's a big problem. Either it's accessible enough to exploit, or it's kind of pointless. But they have added a ton of pointless stuff for RP purposes so I think it would still be cool.
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>>503254041
Alright buddy don't pretend you're not next on the undead freespawn shit list.
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>>503271474
Send me your coordinates and I'll make it easy on you.
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>>503271905
25°N 71°W
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>>503274319
On my way.
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Blitz?
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i'm sorry mekone bro
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>4/5 of my expansion parties succeeded
>15 turns on turn 9 even though I lost 2 expansion parties previously
we're so back bros......
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>>503283486
threat status: the
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>>503280052
did he die on asphos cap?
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>>503283815
Yes I did, and he bumped into my prophet
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warhammerfag here
new Norsca default scales
pretty kino IMO. Each of them has a symbolic meaning

Chaos Undivided
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>>503284236
my condolences gayreek bro
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>>503285320
>5 knives
what happens when you hit 5 again?
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>>503285595
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I was a doubter but after reviewing the facts yomi is in fact the most OP nation in the game
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>>503286967
tiny brain: yomi keeps killing my shit they're so fucking OP!!
medium brain: actually yomi has a number of counters includi-
giga brain: yomi is so fucking OP
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>>503287514
I went through all of those steps
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Building a tendie around the idea of making hyper killer undying Steel Warriors is VIABLE for EA Ulm.
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>>503293803
kid named nidavangr:
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What is an easy communion nation?
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>>503297580
Man, their special communion even disconnects slaves before they start taking damage
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>>503287514
Well Yomi just made a sizeable contribution to the inventory of EA CTis. In fact, the only real damage done was because my communion burned out. That Dai Oni will be given the gift of reason just so he can summon me a king of elemental fire.
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>>503300559
Whoa, Yomi can lose?
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>>503300559
Battle reports where one side crops out their losses are inherently dishonest I'm afraid
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>>503300559
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>a few niggers keep crying about "MUH OP YOMI"
>ignores the sloop mega boosted ctis "THE" on the threat level
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>>503300559
>>503300880
What turn is this? I'm gonna guess like 60 in which case yeah this is about natural. If Yomi pulls up on C'tis on turn 14 there's barely anything they can do.
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>>503301640
For the record, the above battle posting is non-sloops.
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>>503301953
I thought it was BIG GAME considering it has Big in the name.
For a second I thought I was miles behind everyone else, phew. It was why I was scaremongering just now.
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>>503300559
>14 kills
Dai Onibros...
its over...
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>>503300880
What were those Shamans casting? Enslave Minds and Mind Burns?
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>Just don't spawn next to Yomi and wait till turn 50 then you can counter him
Dom Geezer vets executing another succesful downplay mission, I guess they don't want others to take their free win nation
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Simply fishfuck go do your turn.
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>>503161725
Call me back after you beat that Man's mega stack.
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>>503301853
Fair. Its turn 64.

Regarding fighting Dai Oni as early CTis, yeah it would be shitty. Won't have howl/soul slay/drain life ... any of the good tools.

First I'd grab a reborn or two to curse any Dai Oni you can ... yes they will regenerate those afflictions during form change but it will significantly help that process and/or potentially push them off first; these reborn can then cast shadow bolt or you can try hand of death (not likely). I'd probably lay a few Dai Oni traps using a bunch of lizard shamans set to fluff with gift of cheated fate and/or gift of the hare, then attack 2x, star fires 2x then advance and cast. With enough chaff your shamans should get a few turns of casting. But yeah, you'll be answering with pure jank that requires some remaining initiative/luck to pull off.

This would be behind some significant raiding pressure if I could manage it.
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>>503303918
By all means, you're right about most things but Yomi should have a violently large raiding advantage on you at all stages of the game. He has plenty of tools to counteract your MR checks and he should have a surplus of shikome(none in the battle you posted) to immediately kill anything that isn't a strong army.
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>>503304649
I think that's overstating the situation slightly, but yeah 50 bakemono raiding parties are a problem. But my chariot raiders will be an issue that can only be stopped by pd dumps (which Yomi can't afford) and Dai Oni, or groups of Oni Shugu (which Oni likely doesn't have early). There are situations where you can be caught with your pants down and Yomi gets a free first war ... which does suck as EA CTis because you can't rely on getting early scouts.

If Yomi has a scary bless that's online early, they will be having huge money issues to compensate. Plus they're likely to have vulnerable infrastructure such as unforted temples and/or labs.
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>>503305734
Yeah the Yomi your fighting should have temples in every province dumping thousands of freespawn on him every turn regardless of scales. Pillaging your land would make up for his income problems. Regardless, I'm not arguing for the anons complaining about Yomi being unbeatable, I'm just saying that raiding is what Yomi should prefer against you, so suggesting that you'd counter raid him is just wrong. Well, it should be, but all players are different and that's sort of what makes Dominions as replayable as it is.
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>>503302489
its obviously solar brilliance vs all demon/undead
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>>503307129
>>503302489
Yup, primarily +5 pen solar brilliance. Of note was also the foul vapors, quagmire and first slot +4 pen curse of stones which did a ton of work. Plus the usual howl, light of the northern star, etc.
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>>503302708
People are finally realizing just don't spawn next to them lol isn't actually a yomi counter strat. It really bears emphasizing: unless they bring a deliberate counter bless, like 90% of nations have NO way to fight dai oni for the first 30 turns.
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>>503306467
>temples in every province
>thousands of freespawn a turn
>Dai Oni
>Turn 14

Ummmm .... yeah ... ok there
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>>503311685
Turn 66 actually.
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>>503312757
I was discussing how to deal with Dai Oni early, later CTis gets numerous tools. And your mass demon strategy has an expiration of when solar brilliance hits the field. Properly blessed Shikome is, imho, the strongest strength Yomi has so I count my blessings not to have seen any.

And you should always have some planned light and medium raiding/counter-raiding commitments planned. Whether you can get setup and execute is another matter.
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>>503202834
We're up to 8 players in LAst_game_on_earth
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
How many more can we get?
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>>503315076
I would but then I'd be in 3 games that started too close to each other so in a few weeks all those games are gonna turn into busywork come late game
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>>503315076
I will probably join, but lik won't submit til tomorrow. Wait for me bros!
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>>503315076
every time an LA game is set up lemuria is already taken
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>>503318798
Has Lemuria even won yet?
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>>503319028
they're shit I just like playing them. I will do rlyeh instead
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>>503319028
I have won as Lemuria by boring my opponents into quitting.
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>>503319195
You don't like cool nations?
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>>503320165
I could try LA atlantis but idk water magic is kinda bad
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>>503320654
>>503320165
Oh atlantis is taken too. Yeah I just dont want to try learning a new nation when there's a lemuria in the game that will suck up all the money.
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>>503320903
LA Atlantis is fun
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>>503320903
Why not try being a Jew?
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>>503301853
>If Yomi pulls up on C'tis on turn 14 there's barely anything they can do
You simply kill the dai oni with your serpent dancers.
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Raise Dead or Horde Of Skeletons?
Horde of Skeletons only summons 1/2 as many but are longdead really that much better than souless?
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>>503333258
I've wondered this and never asked, so I second the question.
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>>503333258
Raise Dead, you can get better soulless. Also more meat = more time to cast spells
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>>503333258
Horde of Skeletons because skeletons are cooler than zombies
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>>503334727
This is really all the reason I need.
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I'm unironically, honest to Pankoman losing my mind over siege battles in 6.
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>>503340349
I like the lil wallplug dudes they added
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>>503320903
Erytheia is good at dealing with Lemuria too
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>marignon is all about faithmaxxing
>no cool prophet shapes
make it make sense
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>>503283486
15 turns on turn 9 what is this negative time event
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>>503300880
>>503300559
lizard necroish friend, could you please tell me what did you scripted your mages with? In a very broad sense, so it's not tiresome for you to write it down, I am interested to see how you can make them so effective
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AHHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK I DON'T EVEN HAVE MISFORTUNE
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>>503340349
Body ethereal or ethereal units in general help a lot. It helps units kill the archers that get like 3 different chokes before a melee can hit them and prevents clogging.
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>>503333258
Raise dead is mostly better but requires and consumes corpses, and the spellcasting AI will sometimes waste turns casting it when it will raise only a few soulless.

It's mainly the lack of a corpse cost that makes Horde of Skeletons the better spell.
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>>503333258
Raise Dead x2-3 then Horde of Skeletons
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blitz?
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>mari holding game up again
Popkill just can't stop winning
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>>503161725
>Get attacked by Pythium
It's great to see everyone letting our differences aside to unevolve your stupid fish ass.
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>>503350852
yee
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BLOOD GOAT MAKES
FUCK THEM NOT SEXUALLY
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BIG NEW TURN
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>>503303645
He has his demilich sitting in the province between the throne I took and the rest of his land provinces, along with some droods and God knows how many map-invisible movarchs (possibly none if he plans on dropping WoD or EQ spam with his demilich). I don't think he knows that I'm just waiting for the fort on the throne to be done lmao. He can keep waiting in ambush while I bring stack #2 together to grab the other throne
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>>503369793
absolutely brutal turn for LA Agartha. Another victim of batgirl supremacy. His only route path and reinforcements were cut off too.

I remember someone in here asked me how I'd handle all the Agarthas in the caves when I joined. Let me cook, I say to them.
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>>503372745
Honestly, that's not bad for him. His blindfighters are from any fort and his flame corpse is immortal. But if you wiped the rest with blocked retreat then he's mogged.
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>>503372745
>being a sore winner
Were you abused as a child?
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>>503342081
Unfortunately there's no slops mod on to regain population with growth scales so I am out
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>>503372745
seems like he was kicking your ass for a few turns until that siege battle
and I don't think you can attack after basically losing all your chaff
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>>503372978
everything there is dead there was nowhere to retreat and it was an army on the last turn of storming an important fort as well. I also only lost mostly chaff that was free, the bone fiends are from a site.

>>503373048
I just wanna talk about the game a bit nobody's been posting much and the thread is dead. Underground has been spicy af too it's been nonstop action.
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>>503160613
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>>503373672
I have no skeletons to attack
t. marignon
I wish I spawned next to Ermor or Lemuria
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>>503372574
I'm just being lazy, that demilich can't even cast anything besides howl. I'll probably go AI soon, I can't be fucked to micro harassing 3 different land nations in 3 different directions.
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>>503374991
Nigger you are next to Sceleria
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>>503375120
Sceleria isn't good enough
Also also the squidders are massing on my borders
Also also also I must've lost 40 knights so far to bumps
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>>503375067
maybe uhhhhhhh stop doing ineffective raiding that I take back the next turn and consolidate your gigarainbow sacreds so they can take forts and fight armies
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>>503375248
dude sceleria is a better nation than both of them

you will regret not killing them
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>>503376719
Squidders are niggers and have half a dozen land forts and 400 freespawn on my border
I unironically don't have time to deal with sceleria
Also why are all three Ctis lined up?
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>>503375867
>maybe uhhhhhhh
"No!"
I'll go AI and you'll like it. A domg veteran would understand this.
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>>503377078
Alright fine. Indcels, Vanachuds, lend me your water gems.
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>>503376835
C'tis empire shaped like a snake.
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>>503376835
swamp pride worldwide
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>>503376835
Atlantis is having a hell of a time against the squiggers
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>>503380891
I thought LA Ryleh was doggy doo
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>>503382658
perfectly balanced. alpha and omega
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People be casting globals and I am struggling against an AI... when I first learned to play I had gold to spare and now I start turns with 200 gold
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>>503384059
the badmin set the AI to difficult, so you might as well just go AI too.
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>>503384438
I said to myself I will NOT go AI in my first game.
Plus cataclysm is in four years. I think that's in... 4x4 turns?
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>>503384730
each turn is a month, seasons are 3 turns. so 4x12. But yeah I was mainly joking, it does suck fighting the AI on higher than normal difficulties becuase they will spam chaff. You should just thug out your fomorian kings and cut them down. You said you had reinvig gear? Get fire shield or some other passive aoe and a bunch of armor and you should be able to clean up anything the ai cheats in and throws at you
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>>503384934
I do have some kings so i will try to thug them (with some army of course). Reinvirgoration gear? Oh we talked about gem usage before. Why, soul vortex here we go!
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>>503382073
not UW
in One Age games they do pretty well in the waterbowl
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>>503376835
You picked the wrong fight then because Sceleria will literally become unstoppable if you left them be. They're literally Ermor but with good scales and better mages.
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>>503386982
The only fights I've picked are bumps
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I wonder if thinking really hard I can make thugs to beat the oni thugs and dethrone him as one of the most cancerous nations...

The oni
>1d6 wolves
>fear 8
>resist 5 fire & poison
>Size 7 50 hp, a fucking second form that's ethereal and has spirit sight (base form also has spirit sight)
>25% of times can cast phoenix pyre & soul vortex & invulnerability
>more damage & attack, better protection but no shield
The king
>No croones
>No fear
>resist 5 cold & shock
>Size 9 70 hp, marginally cheaper. Does NOT have a default magic weapon
>25% of times can cast soul vortex & invulnerability. Can cast flight & mistform I guess. 25% of times can cast quicken self
>more strenght but weapon's lenght barely longer so repel is bad. Shield alright.

I don't know what scrip could tip the scales to my favour in a 1v1 fight
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>>503387256
So this entire time no one's been fighting Sceleria?

WTF KILL SCELERIA KILL HIM NOW
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>>503386982
I think ermor is better honestly, the lictors are really strong
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>>503387337
Fomo kings can cloud trapeze, probably the biggest leg up they have on dai oni that can't magic phase at all without an insane random.
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>>503387337
you dont use a SC to fight a SC anon
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>>503387337
I like to get large bless on Fomoria for the extra hp and map movement. I don't think they can compete with Oni's though since they don't have second forms, nor is their attack density comprable, and they will have to be close to their flame cancer support troops.

But yeah there is more utlity with the mpaths so there is that.
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>>503388286
Hmm... so I can field them way faster than them
>>503388631
Well, come on, you give the Oni a black steel helmet and they are good to go you can't call that a SC even if they are as good as a SC
>>503388646
I had larger & far caster bless on a SP game and wow...
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>>503387337
To kill that thing in a 1v1 you gotta build specifically for it. Dai Oni are made to kill entire armies but will not be able to kill for example dual axe of hate wielding thug with some protection gear.
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>>503388940
>Hmm... so I can field them way faster than them
No, the strength of cloud trapeze is that it happens before movement. The only way to dodge it is by stealthing your army/commanders, hiding on a fort, or teleporting and rolling a 50/50 on teleporting first. No need having to predict enemy moves to catch them.

They basically get to choose their battles and fomo kings are capable of wiping unprepared armies with soul vortex.
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>>503387687
I've been fighting Sceleria (but mostly Ermor)

t.Ind
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>>503387337
>>503388286
>>503389348
The solution is simple, cloud trapeze on the oni with 2-3 big dick thugs to end his thugging days.
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>>503389532
>>503389348
Oh... so I transform a 1v1 into Xv1
>the counter to Oni Thug is to spend two-three times as gold per thug
ngmi, ban EA Yomi. But still, it IS a solution if I want to snipe Dai Oni
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>>503389986
The issue that you fail to realize anon is that if you get the hard counter to yomi, you've won
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>>503391170
Come on, what other tricks do they have? They must have other things.
I can summon Barghests (they are sacreds too) who have darkvision and darkpower 3 and my mage girls can cast twilight->nightfall which is a HUGE combo. I can also field glamour stealth warriors who are pests that raid and have magical weapons. My giants are amphibians and the kings are sailors and give waterbreathing, allowing me to conquer water provinces too.

EA yomi certanly has other tricks like special summons or cheap construction. What of province recruits? They have some sacred mountain guys with huge attack no? Two-three forts and they can spam that
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>>503391961
Yomi gets a lot of demon freespawn, they're really weak to banish and archers but their melee stats are insane in turmoil/unrest. Their sacred shikome summons are insane also, so dai onis certainly aren't the only good thing about the nation.

If you're actually trying to come up with ways to kill their SCs, cleanest is to get an armor negating spell with no MR check like drain life or frozen heart and spam those at him with guarded mages. Dai onis tend to have to fight alone or in groups with each other since bringing armies tends to HP route them and they waste a lot of critical battle time buffing themselves.

Yomi's PD commander is also complete ass, he actually dies to 1-2 summon imps cast pretty regularly until they get the 2nd commander at 20 PD. They're not great at combating raiding either since their units cause unrest retaking provinces.
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>>503389406
I have it on good authority that not only are Ermor and Ind not fighting, but Ermor has been paying Ind's troops to inspect the stonework at their capital. Even more scandalous, Ind's troops have been grifting the good people of Ermor by not completing any work and just standing around all month. And everyone says that Ermor has all the soulless troops ...
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>>503393851
you've got to be shitting me, this is their pd? I see I see
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>>503388284
They're like a thousand times Ermor's power lvl. They have income and easy access to tons of mages, decent research and unlike Ermor can snowball and win the game while doing very little fighting. Ermor only wins if the other players are totally retarded. Sceleria can win even if their enemies aren't awful at the game.>>503388284
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>>503396532
Yeah he is actually worse than his stats suggest as well, because he is a priest he spends a turn blessing while his PD abandons him alone to be killed by anything that flies.

It's funny too, I think quickness is low key one of the best blesses you can take on Yomi not only because it's insane on shikome, but it makes your PD commander keep up with your PD from the combat speed it gives. I played against a guy with that bless once and it actually screws up the success rate of a lot of the flier cheeses you can do against them.
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hmm... two fomorian kings armed with midget mashers casting personal flight on first turn and set to attack largest enemy right away, so the dai oni doesn't get to buff itself
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>>503396796
Ermor is impossible to kill 1v1 with the proper bless (mweap,regen,bv, 5fr,5sr +++ hp). So that alone makes it a strong nation. Sceleria can be 1v1ed easily
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>>503398970
>mweap,regen,bv, 5fr,5sr +++ hp
You can't fit this bless into awake
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>>503396532
It's so the demons don't immediately rout
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>>503403284
they get demons on province defense?
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>>503404205
they freespawn demons
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When is LAst game starting?
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>>503406326
Hopefully not now, I'm still making a pretender (never played LA)
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>>503408093
I know that feel, everything seems lackluster and I didn't want to mess with communions or marignons path 1 garbage old men, so I just picked up Jomon with the sweet promise of ryujin and dai onis.
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>>503408767
Yeah that and there are so many nations in EA and MA that I never got the time to try out LA, but here we go. Made my tendie and locked in Marignon.
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>>503409404
literally the only thing that seemed good was the glamour 2 mage but it's not sacred so I got irrationally angry when thinking about upkeep
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Since communions can no longer hook into sabbaths and vice versa Utgard has a much harder time setting up turbocommunions correct? Since you have to roll blood on your cap only mage. Also how tf does LA Marignon work, half your mages are communions mages and half of them are sabbath mages
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>>503410415
If you have an Astral + Blood mage you can wire them together
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>>503410873
So you have to roll the S random on goetic adepts/masters just for them to be compatible with chartmakers, royal navigators, royal alchemists, and S random mirror mages? Grim. I wonder if you'd even recruit diabolists any more.
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>>503409681
Yeah I don't think they're very good but I do enjoy the diverse commanders cast even if they're mostly garbage and flavor lol.
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>>503404527
a
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>>503412357
i do think imp trainers are the best unit there
mass enough of them and you get a replaceable imp army
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>>503413142
nevermind the "pet imp" is way weaker than a normal one
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haven't played since gregging it up in this mememod game like a year ago but ilu domg.
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How the fuck do I use Dryads now with Swarm needing N2 to cast swarm? I can't be giving them all a thistle mace
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>>503414573
*bang bang bang*
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>>503416986
just cast nature power bro.. oh oops :^^^)))
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>>503416986
It's time for them to cast a different kind of swarm
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>>503416986
I was also looking at n1 spells today wondering what the fuck to use them for.. Point buff... barkskin?
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>>503419226
Web is actually quite strong in dom6.

If they can easily join a communion nature is very useful in a communion too.
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>>503420556
>If they can easily join a communion
dryads?
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>>503425976
ah right i thought they were just talking about N1 in general my bad.
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Ok now that everyone thinks SCs nation like Yomi still work, what's the consensus on LA Phlegra?
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>>503433474
They are kino that's all I know
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>>503433474
they suck
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>>503433474
Cool but it takes almost 40 turns for them to get their SCs and their scales troops are surprisingly bad. Their mage gimmicks are cool though.
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>>503434441
>scales troops
It took me over 500 hours of playtime for it to just finally dawn on me that this must just mean regular non sacred units.
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>>503433474
Yomi wins early on then sucks when counters come online later
Phlegra only has the SCs after the counters start coming online, so they're pretty shit
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>>503436902
I think it's probably a redundant term for LA Phlegra anyways. Really the only way they give a shit about blesses is a caster bless(yuck) or a bless for titans with shroud.
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Found a site as MA abysia that can summon 1-2 shades and 1-2 shadows per turn, that's good right? Like 0.5 gem a turn from the summons and 1 from the site itself.
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>>503433474
I think its worse than MA Phlegra as its communion masters are vulnerable to magic duel, their SCs come online turn 40 instead of whenever you decide to recruit them, and their scales troops are similar statwise despite LA having better troops on average. Plus that sweet sweet slaver action.
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RIP Naggarond.
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>Naggarond
>it's just Nargothrond
I keep forgetting just how much of a ripoff Warhammer really is
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>>503181756
7 EA
8 MA
5 LA
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>>503446598
Yeah, thanks for correcting your FAKE NEWS. MA is #1 because it has no yomi and shinuyama is terrible.
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>>503447239
MA is the most boring imo from a standpoint of kino.
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>>503447558
Conceptually I agree, but MA has a ton of fun nations to play as well.
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>>503447558
u r probably a squidder or bloodnigger
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>>503303645
>Call me back after you beat that Man's mega st- ACK!
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>>503449041
>less mage support than the nation whose non-communion mages are cap-only
...what?
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>>503448367
Actually neither. I'd like to be a bloodnigger but whenever I have blood paths I don't really know what to do with it. Figuring out how to git gud at magic in general is the hardest part of Dominions for me in general.
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>>503447850
Which are your favorites from MA?
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>>503449919
Ind, Mari, Man, Nazca and Shinu are my favorites. I've only won an MP game as Ind so far though. I haven't had a chance to bring Pyrene, Eriu, Phaeacia or Phlegra into a game in Dom6 but they're really appealing to be too.
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>>503450256
Yeah right on, MA Marignon was my first nation and they're pretty cool. I like fire.
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>>503449827
Blood is in a really weird position regarding battle magic, as their early bread and butter is summon imps until ... really until blood rain at blood 6 and leech at blood 7. Sometimes bloodletting can do work earlier, but its not a reliable primary tool. Hellpower is niche but can be quite useful. Sabbaths are strong but its troublesome to make efficient reverse sabbaths due to the fatigue cost of sabbath master/slave.

Then you hit blood 8 getting life for a life, damage reversal, and rush of strength ... this is where blood combat magic becomes truly strong.

Before then stick with the summons and rituals, many are decent to great (3 red seconds).
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>>503451069
>>503449827
If you have decent crosspaths bloodboil and hellbind heart is alright too. Harm is also kinda good. But yeah imps are usually your money makers it's a super efficient spell to use
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LAst_game_on_earth has 12 players. This is good enough imo but the more the merrier so I'll give a last call if anyone else wants in on non-sloop LA
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/449#status
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>>503451379
I was going to enter as LA Pan but after seeing that dryads couldn't cast Swarm anymore without dumping 10N on each I suddenly didn't want to, since it's the only LA nation I bothered to learn.
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>Playing Ma Ermor
>Set up Marignon to be higher difficulty AI
>Design it's pretender to make it extra difficult
>All nations game
>Marignon spawns right next to me
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>>503456516
I play somebody new almost every game. Just pick somebody you find kino, bro.
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>>503449287
Man moved most of the mages on that stack. He had more than 30 before.

Anyway, our hellblessed statbless battles shall be legendary (or so I hope).
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>>503465395
>Anyway, our hellblessed statbless battles shall be legendary (or so I hope).
Post dicks
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>>503465690
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>>503466974
Damn
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>>503467206
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>>503467718
Pretty cool, nigga. I've somehow only ever seen Ys in one game.
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>>503467718
>all that defence and attack
>15 strength
come on nigga
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>>503467718
Oh yeah anon is right. Throw some boots of giant strength and one of those girdles on that fucker.
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>>503456516
I would've played Erythreia but I didn't want to be a UWnigger
Their mages seem kino, just with a little dash of insanity.
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>>503467718
>blacksteel plate
>not full plate
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>>503468968
>>503469054
bless has +2 str >>503466974, droods are casting +4 str and their magic swords all do 10+ damage
>>503469217
you have not learned the way of the personal quickness
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>>503469142
you have a landlocked capital so you're only half as niggery
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>>503469523
>you have not learned the way of the personal quickness
Blacksteel full plate plus a girdle gives you more protection, more strength, and reinvigoration to balance the encumbrance, all for 15 gems, or 10 more than the regular blacksteel plate you're using. How am I wrong?
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>>503471247
Ind's bless is garbo vs elves and won't even be able to hit the 30 defence women, he doesn't need to invest in more equipment.
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>>503472437
it's an alright bless against my non-thugs, but I won't be fighting him since all he's taking are a half dozen coastal provs while I'm busy fighting Man and Vanarus on the other side of the pond, who threaten my only good thrones
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>>503449041
I told him to consolidate his forces and he did the absolute madman
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>>503449041
>swan knight
what is this goofy ahh shit
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>>503465395
Actually I had more or less the same number of mages in that stack, except 2 died when I tried out the transformation meme
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God damn it you guys. I think I forgot the password for LAst_game_on_earth
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>>503480469
What is it with you guys hosting and forgetting passwords, just write them down lmfao
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>>503480469
I dont believe you
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>>503480781
>>503480814
Lmao I just remembered it. False alarm. I'm starting now.
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>>503480781
Personally I think he wanted a new game but didn't want to be a badmin so he's hoping someone starts a new game like with mudcore turning into middle age crisis
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>>503480905
Better write it down chud
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>>503480469
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>>503480915
Nah bro I don't mind being badmin. I don't actually do anything extra when I'm badmin. I just set the game up how I want it and then after that it's like any other game set up by anyone else.
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>>503481095
Ayyy just had to unstart and restart because I'm retarded and forgot to set thrones.
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>>503480469
I swear it's the same nigger that did it before
just use the browser to save the password next time
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>>503482415
Something about this new map is fucked admin, dominion isn't showing up properly and clicking on provinces doesn't always work
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>>503484675
Nevermind it was my game doing it for some reason
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>>503483713
No that wasn't me but I'm in that game so I know what you're talking about and I was thinking about that retard while I was wracking my brain for my password lol
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I wonder if illfraud is ever going to nerf/fix turmoil and make it generate unrest like it claims to
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>>503489876
I thought it was just supposed to make it go down slower?
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>>503497774
Yeah anon is fried, it reduces your passive unrest reductive per turn essentially.
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>>503498130
nta but personally I think that anything above turmoil 1 should generate small amounts of unrest
negative scales are far too forgiving
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You guys ever blind expand t0 and just go AI if you fail?
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>>503498452
>Hey are you guys massive faggots?
I can only speak for myself but no.
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>>503498452
Yeah. Lichdragon onto the eternal knight indies is instantly fucked.
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>>503498649
>eternal knight indies
lolwut
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>>503498649
based eternal knights taking out the fucking trash
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>>503498452
I'm about to attempt it, gamble chads are IN.
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What the fuck kind of event happened in BIG that got moving barbarians raiding everyone's shit?
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>>503504050
someone claimed a naughty throne that started some unrest shit
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Nababros...
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>90 war trolls on BIG ermor province
misfortune 2 is crazy
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>>503506508
>game has a luck stat
Does this ever actually make a game better? I like to use luck in Dominions because it makes my nation better but I'm just not sure it makes the game better.
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>>503506979
luck is cool but only if it's extremely obscure and difficult to find out how much you have and how you're able to increase it
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>>503506979
Yes
If you can't deal with bad luck and turn it into good luck, then you're playing it wrong
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Gameplan for LA Agartha?
Big production and fuck all undead summons?
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>>503506508
>I'll just use my fortune teller mages to avoid bad events!
Many asses have been fucked making this decision
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>>503509757
>barbarians spawn on non fortune teller province then roam and kill the fortune tellers
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Agartha bros?
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>>503513163
Does the fotune teller have to be on the province to prevent bad events? Aye fuck...
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>>503513364
is this Big?
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>>503514041
Big...
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>>503513580
i believe so otherwise you'd only need one ever
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>>503515072
Fortune tellers don't stack?
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>>503498649
a
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>>503515583
If they do they probably have diminishing returns
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>>503508546
>>503513364
>Gameplan for LA Agartha?
send all your gold and gems to your nearest neighbor
do not elaborate
/domg/ has spoken
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>>503513364
He must have failed the no-spending-gems challenge.
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>>503513364
Seriously? Lose one battle, death basket a neighbour, then go AI? Amazing practice from a /domg/ veteran
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>>503513364
double it and pass it on
>>503518564
I did this as machaka
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>>503518564
Big game will be won by the last person to go AI.
>have to control at least 200 provinces worth of throne distribution to win
>turn 90 cataclysm
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>>503513364
You should always do this
Always play strong early game races and rush late-game ones so they don't get to have fun
Always ignore anything except the top tier spells and units
Always quit when you die because that means someone else had fun which is not okay
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>>503519386
Always break NAPs without warning
Always dogpile whenever possible
Always deathbasket and message everyone that whomever you died to is a mega threat, include their blesses.
If you about to die, don't go AI, wait till the last minute to finish a turn. Keep everyone hostage for daring to ruin your fun.
Create new accounts for whatever service whenever your reputation become bad enough.
Gaslight everyone into thinking the most OP nations aren't that bad (Yomi, Ubar, Scelaria). Or better yet, call them garbage tier so fewer people pick them.
Spread misinformation about the most easily verifiable topics
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>>503522483
yomi is mid what u on bro
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>>503522612
Sewer tier, really. Just communion soulslay them bro
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>>503522483
????
Yomi is fucking ass they are a literal one trick pony
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yomi is bad until they spawn next to me, then they're cancer please nerf illfraud
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The obvious solution is illfraud adding a bigger variety of spells to every path, good luck with that.
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>>503518829
>attack Yomi
>die to Yomi
>deathbasket someone to kirr Yomi
>no one kirrs Yomi
your impotence wirr rive on in my memory, ugry brack gaijin
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can i play on blitzserver if my dom6 copy was acquired by less than upstanding means?
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>>503522684
True chads know to use enslave mind, so you can get some dai oni of your own.
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>>503537207
has to have the same version and I think there is only supposed to be one pirate CD key in game
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>>503537263
>enslave mind
>loses all of his gear
>have to spend more mage turns + gems turning him back into a commander
>assuming you break through 18 base MR to begin with
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>>503537759
You have a decent chance of picking up the gear, especially if using a communion. Now you've heavily broken into fire/earth/death from starting astral or nature, while also having an SC if your nation doesn't normally have them. I will cherish the few I acquired.
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>>503522684
I don't know how to communion.
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>>503533432
cheating ass bitch fuck you
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You ever think about how Zotz are basically just size 2 units that happen to have wings? Well, now you do, and so does this militiaman.

Alt ver: https://files.catbox.moe/fnn1vf.png

I still have a lot to learn, but I'm not unhappy with this one.
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>>503547032
and here i thought she has a penis
and she is staring in two directions!
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>>503547032
what's nice too is their mages are treated as size 2 for twiceborn and lichcraft
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>>503467801
Ys is really cool but its mechanics are in bad taste since you are a cowardly water nation that bless rushes some land neighbor who had the bad luck to border you

LA will fix this
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>>503548517
He actually rushed a water nation, one that usually is picked to rush other water nations
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>>503548640
I wish every anon was this based
I will do my best to live up to this standard (I will fail)
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Bloodhunting and patrolling got me confused, so first you roll on bloodhunting, which generates different amounts of unrest depending on your blood level and if you were successful or not, then you reduce it by having pd and dominion scales, then you patrol the unrest out, but there is an exploding d50 you have to beat with patrol + 25 and if you beat that then you reduce unrest by 0 and your patrol strength, and I don't even know if you patrol strength is the sum of your patrollers or the calculation is rolling per commander, and I don't know if this is even correct since this is from the wiki which may or may not be outdated, I just want a retard rule of thumb so I don't have to micro everything.. fuck this is why I don't play blood nations..
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>>503552289
nigga just do it by feel, if the unrest isnt going away add more the only real trick is to not use mindless they suck at patrolling
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>>503552289
Make groups of 6 blood hunters with guards and patrollers. Use upkeepless or very cheap units for patrolling and guarding. Blood hunt in provinces with 8k+ population that do not make a lot of gold, because even if you patrol all the unrest down to 0 every single turn you still lose gold to unrest for that turn of blood hunting because of the order turns resolve in. Use scouts to transport slaves.
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>>503537207
yes
latest version
patch it look it up from cis.ru
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>>503547032
Ah caray
>>503548514
oooh
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>cast Beseech the Lady's Aid 3 times, I should have gotten 15 sons of bretonnia
>get 50 (fifty) instead
Warhamfag, this is certainly not intended
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>>503565440
Nevermind, it's even worse. I only casted it twice, what must be happening is the conj 5 Beseech spell has the effect of the conj 8 Host of the Lady one that does summon 25 sons. Extremely broken and exactly the point of running a test game.
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>>503567948
ze lady prevails yet again
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Which nation would you want to live in?
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>>503574651
Therodos
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>>503567948
>no streltsi
the army had no soul and was doomed from the start
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>>503574651
Hinnom if I get to be one of the giants.
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>>503574651
Any of the Pangaeas are probably pretty nice, assuming you aren't raped to death. Phaeacia seems like a chill mediterranean island with cute tall girls. My uncommon pick would be LA Agartha though.
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>>503574651
Abysia, so I could crossbreed americans
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>>503574651
I am LITERALLY an Erytheian prince
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>>503579416
Do you guys think starchilds (s1 illithids) would be good against LA agartha as assassinations? What should their script be? Fire?
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>>503580932
just give them a water bottle, script fire, then usually the other guy dies
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>>503581064
but im lazy and have hundreds of these niggas
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>>503574651
Any nation with sloth 3 should be suitable.
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>big hinnom about to stale again
foreskinbros? is someone biting his dick off?
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>>503574651
caelum but only if I'm a human
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>>503547032
Holy hecking sexo zotz



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