Event: Lamp of Malice (until 31 December) Featured Banners: Wanderer Princess Lanavaille (until 31 December) Knight Errant Gerard the Thundersmiter (until 31 December) Official wiki: https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne General Information: https://rentry.org/x5xxitrz Tavern/Camp choices: https://rentry.org/2gngvv2n JP Fanguide: https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ Friend Code: https://rentry.org/SavoryRisk Tier Template: https://tiermaker.com/create/wizardry-variants-daphne-17631789 Thread Template: https://rentry.org/DaphneTemplate Previous: >>503067281
Albano! Stop picking up everything you find in the Abyss! That thin book filled with pictures of small elven girls... Can't you see that it's the Greater Warped One's attempt at driving you mad!? And you, Masked Adventurer! When did you and Albano start to get along so well? Stop encouraging him right this instant!
If my mc is good aligned do evil characters never talk to you in camps or taverns? My Viviana never wants to have a beer with me
>>503198443It just takes longer for them to start doing so but eventually they will and you can max their bond too. You can make it slightly faster by running other evil characters with them, characters in party sharing aligment seems to boost bond gain a bit
>>503198443You'll gain affection pretty quickly with a pure evil (+(You)) team. So long as the party itself gets along well you can get over the hurdle of your alignment dragging things down. Just fill out your party with as many evil adventurers as you can, and fill in the gaps with neutrals.
I like the designs in this game a lot but there is one thing it lacks and its girls with braids. I want a mage or priest girl with big braid(s) and glasses. Beastgirl and elf are both fine but if its elf then she has to be on the shorter size.
Where are the playable faeries?
I assumed fighting one ent rather than both would have repercussions in saving the knights
>>503199490Fighting both ents is your shit test.
>do the quest again to make the arena boss 5 stop singing>forget that I had to talk to the fucking waitress too after making the food>died on the arena>I have to grind 5 more scales again since the quests was resetFUCK
>>503200120>memory issues
>>503200621I had skip dialogue on and went to take a piss right after clicking the food. If I had looked at the screen I would have seen the converstation with the boss didnt happen and then remembered...
>>503198332And remembah kids, if ya do elves, ya go to da abyss before ya die
>>503198332Albano! Put down those Panties of Ultimate Corruption! It's a well-known Artifact of the Abyss, Albano! Do you seek to be turned into a Warped One by succubus magic? No, don't sniff them, Albano! Masked Adventurer, stop talking to yourself and use your powers to put back those panties where Albano found them!
Nice try, lulunarde, but by the power of my roght hand of reversal, I can make it so that I never prematurely ejaculated! Haaaaa!
>>503198332>GWO strategically dropping porn mags while going through the dungeon
So Wandering Lana's skills are objectively superior? Does all that vanilla Lana's skills does and more?
>>503203341YesYesYou rike? Be excited over new character reskins
>>503203952They almost made it sound like there'd be a reason to swap back and forth. I guess not.
Imagine an Alice reskin.What vould they even add to her damage passive?
>>503205203The reason to swap is the personality/skin differences.
>>503205203Mages could have different elements, classic gachashit trickeryFighters can have different weapon proficiency, one will be better with spear, the other with mace, etc
>>503205203For other alt versions maybe. So let's say there's another alt Lana and this one instead gets even more defense in heavy armor.
>eos announcement Its over
>>503207086All they had to do was release content.
So in my initial retard impression, is there no real reason to not try to max out every job possible, for MC and for party members other class because you can carry over abilities and stats?
Have they fixed the game yet? I'm guessing not.
>>503208597No, instead they’ve made it so that if you try to drink Elmon’s elf juice you make mustard gas instead.
>>503208008I heard priest is worth leveling because they have a passive that adds piety into attack power? Can you put unlimited skills to a character?
>>503208008The one fear right now would be NPC classes getting locked out too early. If you change them at level 50, then there's a chance that they add more levels and skills later and you can't go back without the other skill book. We still don't know if books are a one-time use or not, too. If they don't get used up, then it should be fine to use them even at this early stage.
>>503199429Milord! Milord! Play with me!
Got an Amelia fighter book this week.Very tempted to use it.But I will wait until more skills are added to classes.
I only got one from doing Pulgritte's stupid side-quest so I want to get the LUC light for beating Helmut. Now I actually rebeat Helmut but saved Albano, and didn't get a light, and the Rentry fucking says it's bugged and you have to do all three quests and start at B7F. This better not be a fucking lie if I commit to this massive waste of time.>Root quest>Save Albano - kill Ents, kill Mimic, find Flowers>walk through 2x poison pool, clear B8F, fix rubble>reset, run past B8F, kill Ents, kill Helmut
>adam mage bookyowza mr kanamamana, this would be insulting if I had an adam to purchase it for
>>503208008>my art is reposted
>>503210159Make sure no knight died tooYou need everyone to survive for the Luck Light
what do you think will go wrong?>Take away too many things>Take away too little things>Remove the character instead of mausoleum bone>Removing equipped sandals will still keep the stats on character>Everyone drops to 0 gold>Instead of -gems they'll do +gems by accident>More
>>503210547Cute art, I appreciate you in this difficult time
doomers out, this is an elf general
>>503210946Probably nothing
I want my generic fantasy anime collabs you stupid fucking japniggershow hard is it to have the easiest collab deals of your life? japniggers will drop MASSIVE dosh for Frieren, Aqua, Goblin Slayer, Marcille
I was hesitant about pulling becaue my lana is already lv 40+, but if I can switch and they share levels then I might as well.
>>503210946hopefully they learned their lesson and there won't be any more fuck upsIt's crazy to me people are still running around with D9 thieves
>>503211623>i want immersion breaking fotm slops with sterilized interactions and storylinesFuck off zoomzoom.
>>503212308>I have no idea what english is please fuck my face>he thinks anything I referenced is "immersion breaking" in a generic fantasy IP ft. time travel mechanickill yourself
>>503212501>all medieval fantasy IPs are the same!!!!!kill yourself zoomzoom.
>>503210946I imagine they will fuck up if they go deep into trying to reclaim things like adventurer tags that have already been consumed
>>503212623explain why >Frieren>Konosuba>Goblin Slayer>Dungeon Meshiwouldn't fit with a Wizardry collaband then explain what would, without sounding like a schizo nigger
>>503210946Data adjustment goes wrong and they brick the database with no backup because they savored too much risk. Game is taken down for months while Mr. Takaeda Drecom himself personally goes to every cubicle to slay every boomer dev that worked on this game. After the purge, they hire people who actually know how to run a live service game and relaunch. Then I wake up.
>>503212816This, so much this. In fact, why not add western franchises too, Wizardy is western after all. Imagine Rudeus,Gerald,Marcille,Goblin slayer in the team. I would basedpog SO hard.
>>503213050>I consneed the argumentI accept
>>503213139Bye zoomzoom.
Need Elmon, please make her playable.
>>503212816NTA but Record of Lodoss War would be pretty cool and extremely fitting. Wizardry has a very old-school feeling in many ways and modern stuff clashes quite a bit.It's like dragon quest.Nothing you can't change mind you, but it'll feel weird. If you wanted change so much, the first thing to change should've been the entire class and battle system. (that said, why the fuck don't we have lvl MP for each level of spells. I vastly prefer the spell level system due to how it makes every level of spells interesting.)
>Frieren>has no trap detect>gets caught by mimic every timekino
>>503210946>inb4 force roll backthis is to lore to savor
devs really be using right hand of reversal on niggas
>>503213520the dev are the old ones confirm
I didn't understand the changes with Wanderer Lana's skillsSo does she lose the healing skill or does she have 2 skills?Can regular Lana have 2 skills if merged?
>>503213380>immune to trapphobia>automatically opens all chests, can't pick someone else and no minigame>all failures turn it into a mimic>has -999 disarm
>>503210946>ban the exploitersall they need to do, it's quick and there is no damage done towards real players.
>>503214174Healing skill is same.A character has:Innate passive you cant lvl.Passive that you can lvl.Discipline.Lana changed innate and discipline
>>503211623If it's a collab, I'd prefer references/items rather than charactersSeeing other IPs in a game is immersion breaking for me, because you'd constantly be reminded other IP exist, pulling you out of the wizardry's worldI understand my opinion is in the minority though and adding Lodoss War characters would probably prop the game up for 5 years.
>>503214890>Passive that you can lvl.Skill that you can level. Gerulf and Gerard have active skills, not passives.
>>503214331Inherit skill stays the same.
>>503214990You can just choose to not use the character. In game like this collabs are actually at their best because you can do that, there is no other player that will run towards you with their collab shit. Except visting tavern and seeing another player party there but thats a minor thing. There is no party there if you have your own characters there or a quest converstation.
>>503214990I dunno about characters but I wouldn't mind themed dungeons from other seriesLike a Final Fantasy themed dungeon or something
Albano did nothing wrong!
H-collabs such as kuroinu when?
>>503215378Albano did nothing!
I want Rance collab
>>503214990I'd prefer no collabs to begin with. Only shit games with low quality IPs have to waste their time on collab shit to try and attract fans of other properties.
>503216473oh look, a schizo autist that can't handle the idea of change
>>503215585Wrong~!
I just want more content
>>503217494N-next week for sure.
Put Kasli in Wizardry.This concludes my yearly Battle Cats collab begging and shilling.Thank you for your attention.
What's the best place to grind Waterways equipment? I can't run the fucking BF6 gauntlet and still have resources for the fish, and what little steel and shit equipment I've got is ass and sometimes even worse than my bronze stuff. Do I do the bronze exam and just low diff the fish with overleveled characters? Is there a better place to farm equipment after the BF 6 boss?
What is so great about the Digging Mattlock? On subsequent cycles can you get it with better Stars?
>>503218841>Do I do the bronze exam and just low diff the fish with overleveled characters?Yes
>>503199429So cruel...
Can you merge Lana's repeatedly?
>Bone Picker won't spawn in Pier and give me my weekly bone so I can go to sleep>but the merchant is there to force me to buy his 2k junk nearly every single timeThe jews have won...
So do you just stack surety + atk on warriors/thiveves? what's the third stat, evasion, def?
>>503220515atk%
>>503219526what if that faerie threw a needle to your eye and casted a wind spell cutting two fingers out of your hand?
>>503220515ATK again
>Give lvl50 dispatch characters better gear hoping for more stuff>It's still doing only 2 runsSCAM
After beating the story, i've finally started adventuring properly with my second team( Gerard, Lana Alter, Jarmil, Marianne and Debra ). Just hearing different voices/messing around with new weapons is so fun. >>503213305This image is cool as fuck!
>>503220938Can't believe it takes these jabronis 20 hours to do 2 dungeon runs
>>503220673It's just a little prank, bro!
>>503221005their team is full of artists carrying S0VL in their veins. Would love a clean one of this picture for a wallpaper. The "mid" poly aesthetics gives it a unique PS2 feel that is gorgeous.
>>503213050i actually would basedpog for rudy
>>503220862>>503220602what if gear pieces have trashy stats? e.g. atk def res. or atk mdef eva. which ones are okay on keeping?
This is my first time playing a Wizardry title, just beat the knight butcher and it's pretty kino. Vernant-kun.......
>>503221891Then you don't take it to +20. And the one you finally do take to +20 will rape you with DIV or something as the last stat, savor it.
>>503222102remember to check your weekly class change scroll to see if its for a character you like
>>503221517Yeah, i love how this game looks. The models are very expressive while still retaining that edginess from the PS2 era. It really works here and adds to that old school feeling Daphne is going for
>>503221891You can only roll certain stats on certain gear, so altering is necessary anywayLike ATK can only be on headgear, gloves, and rings as far as armor goesWhile ASPD can be on shields, body armor, boots, and ringsDEF can be on everythingSo for frontline phys attackers I think I'd go for ATK or ASPD/DEF/whatever in the third slot, and I would alter that third slot to being ATK, no ATK%Really as long as it has ATK and you don't hate whatever the second best stat is, it's a nice piece of gear since you can alter that third stat anyway
finally light at the end of the tunnel wizbwos; content is coming next week, and exploiters are getting gem debt. We got the good ending in this timeline.
>>503222102It's my first time too. I'm kinda embarassed since i've been playing RPG since i was a kid, but somehow completely missed WizardryCongrats on your win!>VernantBro... Don't let your bros die...
>>503223040what content
>>503223040Never saw this cutie, yo
>>503223218His entire post is making shit up, including the filename
>>503223686Of course that's what you focus on
>>503223686toshiaki was talking about this male beast for like 3 weeks now anon
Beast Priest soon
the shields that convers iq/piety to defense are actually really good... But getting them is pain in the ass, so you'd be forced to run 2* blue at max
>>503224474Sucks that they seem to be heavy shields, they're pretty much made for Valdor.
how much surety on thieves? how much surety on warriors?
>>503197858last thread
Whats the point of daggers
>>503224974>daily thief>farm tagsi wish...
>>503224925As much as possible. Accuracy is the harder one to judge, I've got a lot due to suboptimal items but I feel like it doesn't need to be that high.
>>503225091should you alter surety or atk though...
Low accuracy? Skills fixes that.Never once I've missed a single melee attack skill, even with a two-handed axe.
>>503226065I've missed with Precision Strike and Heavy Attack multiple times grinding 3F Cave of Malice. Although I don't think I've missed with Heavy Attack level 2 yet, so I'm guessing the level 2 adds a ton of accuracy (but probably still isn't infallible).
>>503224974>lana chesthot!
So which class is better for MC, warrior or thief?
After preparing for so long, Gessi ended up being a harder fight than Octonarus. Also, I got cucked out of my IQ lamp. Like, what did I do wrong?
Still not banned yet.
So how's the 'fixed' Lana? Great to get dupes on or just nothing special?
Nothing beats the kino of farming Helmut while listening to the sounds of my mother arguing and abusing my senile father in the background.
Did they nerf guizen or is this a glitch? After I kill him my party is immediately fully healed hp mp and sp before I even talk to melgina
What defines whether the cursed doll will flee or not? 66 ASP and it still flees when it doesn't use that attack.Also tried using LAERLIK by targeting other enemies during the flee animation but it didn't work.How to prevent it from fleeing? Do I just suck it?
Hmmm, after Lana, I wonder how Elise would look like with r*pe eyes. Because such a strong willed elf really has potential.
>>503229558RNG. Tattered doll will make it waste a turn targetting the equipped character with the death curse though, for a max of 6 turns.
>>503229558I will now use a Rage comic to explain it to you
>>503228780Probably a glitch because I needed to heal up after my fight with him.
>>503229558Them fleeing or not seems to be completely independent of speedLike they get an opportunity to decide to flee or not before anyone actually gets a turn
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so even after merging I won't be able to use regular Lana's style with Wanderer Lana's unique improved passive?
2* earth 2h or iron 1h + shield, both 4* with good stats?
>>503230639What does regular Lana has that makes her worth using over Wanderer Lana?
>get bone character i wanted in the mausoleum>'please be 8 or 9 please be 8 or 9 please be 8 or 9">6How do you even cope?
>>503230726Her voice and personality are much more bearable.Wanderer Lana is cringe because the english voice actor's voice doesn't match well the character, and also doesn't properly changes the tone.
I can't wait for my gear to disappear because it was equipped on D9 mausoleum Amelia
>>503230776I have 186 characters yet to register.Not a single Amelia except for the Thief tomb one.With 80 Fortitude 7 BP.
>>503230840I think you might legitimately be the only person on earth with this opinion
Once I go back to do a new route, do I have to redo everything? Or can I instantly jump to the final boss to complete it?
>still no Debra>only neutral thief is PhiliphCan't wait for PC release and modding so I can get him a wig and makeup so I can plow his bussy without feeling gay.
>>503230726easier discipline I guess
Do you have any +15 pieces? Show them>>503231334you can skip arena fights, but 1-6f you have to do again
>>503231665At least you have him. I'm forced to run thief MC because I'm running evil backline w/ 2 mages + Alice and Lanavaille on front.Wish I could just go Fighter and Heavy Stike Lv. 3 everything all day
>>503231841Guess I might as well go through it with my secondary party then. Let's not waste the xp.
Why aren't bows dex based
>>503232695Muh realismseriously you need a strong af arm to properly handle a bow, dex is a meme
What determines openings? I'm blocking, I take a hit, and I don't get one. Sometimes I get one, but the following hit I never get one, is there a cooldown?
>>503232695its lofe-accurate
feels so good to know your account won't be banned bwos
>>503233639Im pretty sure it needs to be a regular attack and not a skill or magic
>>503234497I accidentally duped a bone when going through NG+, this is goodbye
Inside Lana
Got to the end of Cave of Malice the 1st time and got the rewind, genuinely hilarious how casual they are about doomsday scenarios. "Welp, we're all gonna die, but you go fix this for you"
>>503237216can't wait for the scenario where we rewind a dozen times before realizing we can't save the situation
>>503237595Sound like a good event to countdown to EoS
>>503232695why would it be
>>503197858At her current power level, it's enough to get Raditz's attention
>doing the Reprobus fight>Lana takes damage for MC>animation freeze>restart device just to get the same outcomeHad to contact support for this one. Let's see how long before it's fixed or i have to redownload this shit again just to stuck on the fight
>>503238153A full reinstall usually fixes this one, no point talking to support.
>>503238153You have to reinstall the app to get rid of the block bug.
>>503238153You can fix it by reinstalling the game. Remember to get your ID and password before that. Or you can start and play the game on another device (log in with ID/Password), emulator works too
>>503238310>>503238271>>503238334I would think that if it's such a common occurrence it would have been addressed or fixed by now. Should get it on the radar at least
>>503238793>>503238334Having your phone and computer emulator linked to the same account is a serious life saver and ease of use thing. I've fixed so many bugs by just closing my emulator, hopping on my phone, then starting up the emulator again. Do recommend.
>>503240554Just clone the emulator instance. If the first instance goes to shit, clone the copy before switching to it. I've folded this glorious nippon game this way about six times now
Finally beat the big bird. Hellish fight, I needed about 10 tries to clear it because my dogshit thief only hits for 1k (2k on crit). Now to find the eggs without dying to poison.
>>503237216Oh okay, went to the Goblin cave for the black steel because adventuring is so FUN! and got completely wiped by lvl 30 goblins in the first encounter. Back to continuing the Beginning Abyss I guess.
adds piety to defenseI don't even know where I got this or when.
what tier is the cuisinart from the reeem store, is it worth spending more gems to buy it?
>>503242260its random and yes
>>503242485ok, time to spend would be easier if I didn't already spend half of it before they announced the banner was being extended
The maddening effects of the abyss have taken their toll...
>>503197858>Wake up>read announcementkek daily bone exploiters btfo
>bought 3 helm of malice>accidentally bulk sold them allFUCK
NEW CONTENT DOKOAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>503244595
>>503244641I still haven't beaten the true boss, give it another few weeks.
God damn that mimic had a lot of health
>>503238793Anything fixable now (through reinstalling or some other method) is on their low priority list. It's the unfixable game-breaking bugs that has be fixed asap.
>>503245801Actually, the biggest focus right now is stopping F2Pers from getting free bones or gems.
>>503246262>Data adjustment for abyss bone exploiters and sandals>Data adjument for gold exploiters >Data adjustment for gem exploiters>Data adjustment for thief bone exploitersThat was the real reason for the hiatus kek
>data adjustment but what if I did it only a bit
>>503246647you'll only get permabanned a little bit
>dwarf priestBasically you need to wait until the enemy rapes you twice before you try to heal, that's rubbish. Human and elven priestesses are far better. And a beastfolk/pixie priestess is going to kill it.
>>503247380Why would you try and make a dwarf a priest to begin with. Pixie priest will be shit because if you get hit once you're dead. Beast priest will probably be optimal.
>>503247380human with a little aspeed from items is more than fast enough
feet
>>503248213dwarf priest is optimal stat management due to their high piety, vit and str, besides if you do get hit then your dwarf now gets to heal you after the fact
>>503248381Imagine how cold they must be
>>503251249She's dead and incorporeal, so pretty fucking cold.
>>503251249The one thing that makes feet icky is dirt and sweat so ghost-feet are more understandable than human feet
>>503227727I got it again by beating megalia again while saving the missing personDidn't even change routes
>>503244440I still can't play the game, is anyone else experiencing this?
>Finally got an actual reply to one of my numerous bug reports>They don't understand and want me to take a videoWelp at least they tried, too much work to replicate it and it's not game breaking just annoying so I'm just gonna ignore thatfor anyone curious it's a bug where if you have both minmint and garlic in your inventory and are doing the first arena quest to get rid of his stink breath and give the head chef the garlic first it becomes impossible to give him the minmint unless you wheel to before the first arena fight
>>503247380>>503248213This is Valdor sacrilege and I won't stand for it
>>503251852How do you get it again? You mean you got PIE then IQ, right?
>>503253954Just quickly do any ending, even one you've already done, where you kill Melgina and save the missing person to get your IQ lantern (assuming you already have PIE). Don't bother with all that true end stuff
So whats the deal with Lambert?
>>503208758Can you put unlimited skills to a character?Yes, there is no limit, the MC can pick up all classes skills and passives, he only lose access to the class specific skills like Hiding, they are greyed out but still there.It's not as busted yet as you think on non-MC members as they have one-side class change only but that also depends on the character.>I heard priest is worth leveling because they have a passive that adds piety into attack power?Yes but depends if they stick as Priest or go back to fighter as each class have different stats grow.
>>5032558298 inch cock flacid.Some whore he fucked wants us to rescue him.He didn't fly so good.
>>503252464You can't give him mimint even if you order the garlic dish then return to town?
>>503252464Don't they fucking log everything? Why do they need a video instead of simply looking at logs?
>>503230776I've got 12 characters I haven't registered yet because I can't get any bonus points above 6 on them. Some of them I have 5 copies of...
>>503255829i dunno i havent done it yet
>>503252082Reinstalled.
>>503253954Yea, sorry, I brainfarted
oh nooooo I'm gonna get banned guysthis thing that's still in the game and not fixed unlike every other chest/item/gold exploit is illegal! i'm fuckin dead!
>>503258285anon, 5 points won't make or break a character
>>503259989This. Now, the RNG on every single level up you'll ever encounter? That'll make or break your character. At level 50, we're talking about a 15 point swing. Make a thief? Hope you don't accidentally get too many points in completely worthless stats like IQ or piety!Also I hope you didn't put any points in vitality, because a 22 point difference equals a laughable 70 HP advantage.
VIT doesn't give HP, retards
>>503260501>he doesn't know
>in-game help menu gives false information
>>503261503>reading at allwell that seems risky
>>503259989No but it will trigger my autism. I'm fine with waiting.
Is it possible to swap the password you've given to the old man?
>>503252464>can't even check logs>will supposedly do large scale rollbackslolroflmao, even
>literally nothing to do after beating all three waterway routesNEW CONTENT WHEN I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT CAVE OF MALICE
>>503259125They never said anything about banning though. Just that all your characters are gonna get discipline and skills turned to level 1 and any spare bones/extra characters removed
>>503266324>Later>aiiiiieeee what a kusoge my account is bricked they took away my regular roll inherits too!kek
So, why hasn't anyone decrypted and datamined the game yet?Are those pisscord groups so useless they are only good at stealing content?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANNA DIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!>heal her>t-thank you...>Firebomb>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON't WANNA DIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>503268172>please kill me ... end my torment..Lana...
>go to 2ch>some Nips are seething, and getting laughed at, for spending their Lana banner points on other things before the cuisinart got buffed.Risk status savored. Should have saved those points bud.
How much storage space would you guess an item takes? 150 bytes? 100 bytes?I wonder why are they so stingy with storage.
>>503268794>cuisinart got buffedwait, what?
>>503268794Anon with the 5 stasr cuisinart aboutta blow his load.
>bone debt
>>503260723Prove it. Post your level 40 Amelia
bwos... our OC is in Reddit now...
>>503270274Which one
>>503255501Well, didn't get one. Got a Luk Lantern but no IQ even after already getting my PIE.
>This isn't even the first time this happened
>>503271906>built for EPC
Still waiting for a 10bp Elf-Mag and 10bp Human-Pri
Reversing the rocks on helmut didn't work for some reason. I tried twice and it just skipped my turn with nothing happening.
>>503268794>>503269380as a cuisinart haver, please don't tell me you're trolling
>>503272846i didnt get many of her i just went with a +8 one
>>503272846I got a 10bp dwarf-kni....
>>503229558If on phone,close the game as soon as the flee button pops up. If you do it fast enough, you'll skip the auto flee on combat start and have a chance to kill it.
Does Wanderer get any more passive skills after 20 or am I wasting time trying to get more out of the class?
>>503274184wasting your time I thinkit might be more well rounded than the other classes, but you won't get any new skillsswitching to wanderer class before you rest might be good if you're trying to maximize exp grind on other classes though
>>503273463I think that was google translate at work. From what I saw in the archives there are some people saying that they spent their Lana points because they didn't think the banner would be extended and are claiming they would have been able to get the cuisinart if they were given a heads up.
Is Elmon unsalvageable or do I just have to redo the Helmutt fight one more time?
>>503274184There is a secret skill at level 50.
>>503272846I'm too attached to my current ?BP Elf-Mag to unleash this one
A level 50 is gonna have around 300 stat points total. Do people really care about 5 extra bonus points? A 0.3% difference? Even less when the level cap rises?
>>5032769415 points in STR is up to 25 more attack, 5 points in IQ is pretty nice too thanks to AOE.
>>503277667At level 50, how much damage is a fighter going to be doing anyway? 25 is nothing.
>>503278258Any bit of attack is welcome if you are a pickaxe chad.
pickaxe is used w/ precision strike, right?
>>503279852What's this about pickaxes? Don't you only use them to break rocks on Helmut?
>>503275768Go through your cursed wheel flags and make sure everyone's alive. Check the B1F one especially.
I am going fucking insane! Why does the game keep crashing and sending me back to Bluestacks app menu? I've tried everything from changing bluestacks setting to uninstalling/reinstalling the game, but even after managing to play the game again, the same issue pops up shortly after anyway. Yesterday I was able to play just fine for an hour or so before sleep, but today when I open the game, the game crashes after the main menu yet again!
I swear everyday they add or remove about 200-300ms in delay for operations involving menus.The macro I used just yesterday for farming isn't working anymore because everytime after I rest at the inn there's now a little delay so the exit button doesn't work, the input is wasted because of that, and I have to do the rest manually.,
emulator/macro faggots btfoi play in my bed on my phone
Whats Parallel Break?
Does merging Lana give you all 4 skills now?
I play on my phone, while playing master duel on my ps5, while posting on 4chan time maxing
>using macro>alt+tabs to browser>game is suddenly on title screen when I came backW-what?
>>503284697you've been found
>>503284693You could also be listening to a podcast, maybe even with a Youtube video streaming in the background. Be better. Embrace the sigma grindset.
>playing master duel instead of tag force games with dating mechanicsDisgusting
not gonna do it btw
>>503260501I can't really trust that screenshot on the right when it has an impossible amount of exp
>>503282558It hits 5 times. If you can overcome the accuracy issue and get enough attack or defense piercing from other sources it's the hardest hitting single target option. Basically use precision or sneak attack and stack +attack on your gear.
>>503282558The pickaxe hits 5 times so theoretically you can stack enough attack and accuracy substats to make it basically the strongest weapon in the game since every point of your attack is multiplied by its 5 hits. I wouldn't worry about actually trying to do that, but it's an extreme example that shows that 25 points isn't "nothing". It's multiplied by your number of hits.
>>503286153But what about enemy defense?
>>503285752Dispatch goes over cap
>>503286235You can either lower it with debuffs, have enough damage to not need to worry about it, or just ignore it with skills that ignore it.
If only this was a Sacred Bow
>>503286153Can you get over with more than 1 Star?
>>503286434Yes
>>503286434Even if you can, the worst possible pickaxe still has a higher potential than any other weapon. 5x hits is that powerful. A 1* +5 pick axe can out damage a +20 cuisinart.
>>503237947So strong!!
>>503286235When you're stacking enough ATK from substats on your armor and stuff you'll soon find that the base damage a weapon has (comparing your pickaxe to say, a steel sword or something) doesn't result in a huge difference in "per hit" attackIt probably requires truly insane levels of statmaxxing but it is the theoretical high point as far as damage goes
>>503286153>shows that 25 points isn't "nothing"There's a small problem in that 5 STR is only 25 attack with a proper 2h weapon. With a pickaxe it's only 2 or 3 attack.
>>503285303You don't like grinding skeletons and sahuagins for hours, no, days at a time?
>>503286742Where's this 25 number coming from anyway now that you mention it? My understanding is that 1 STR = 1 ATK, and a Strength+ weapon boosts that by 75%So shouldn't it be like 8 or 9 damage? Even if we then consider the assumed 120% Fighter ATK multiplier that's nowhere close to 25What am I missing?
>>503287149I remember there was a similar conversation talking about attack in the 20's, except it was for 10 points in STR not 5.
>>503283725are you running the game the recommended way? Use the manager, 8 cores, etc
>>503214990No collabs. I agree, immersion would be affected.
>>503287760Yes, I did. ASUS ROG 2 and Vulkan and the likes, still no luck. I was playing just fine for like 2 weeks right up until they announced the infinite Lana banner too.
>>503214990Collab characters in this game would be funny if only because of the implication that everyone that's added to the game fucking died and is just a pile of bones.
>>503288384I'd say collab characters also wouldn't work because of the permanent death aspect.Unless they somehow locked out their revival options to until they are at maximum fortitude.
>>503288650I dunno man watching Joker from Persona 5 get ashed would be peak
>>503288318Do >>503240869 after you reinstall. Copy your Link info from the settings menu on your busted instance and make sure it works in the new one before you get rid of it, or you will lose the account. Always have a clean backup instance, because one bad exit can fuck the whole thing up due to glorious nippon programming.
I just switched to priest and it feels awful. Does it get good?
Is 1 (O N E) piece of equipment too much to ask for from the Den of Earth?
>>5032871495*5 is what number anon?
>>503210946what are they gonna do about it?yeah, nothing
>>503290868You made me feel like a dumbass for a second there anon lol.But then I realized that the pickaxe only started being discussed after the "5 points in STR is 25 attack" thing in >>503277667.Of course I also realize that they were trying to be cheeky by saying "up to 25 more attack" as if anyone is actually doing the pickaxe stuff. Kind of a disingenuous way to argue for more STR being a very good thing, and it's not even accurate. ATK is ATK, the amount of hits from a weapon isn't "more ATK". More damage, maybe.And before you get mad at me for that "um, ackshually", I'm not the one who said "up to 25 attack" in the first place while conveniently leaving out the context where that would happen anyway.
Why is Adam so sleepy when he's sitting at the inn or training room?
yeah this is uneasy territory how can they let this slide?
>>503291854As the anon who initially stated 25, 5*5 is where I got the number from.
>>503291983They're obviously aware of it already, so since it hasn't been patched out it's perfectly legal and dev approved. Go get your 100k gems anon.
>>503291983You should be specific about what you're referring to anon. Is it their formatting for rewards? Like some quests being listed as like "Gems x20,500 Gold" So people might misread and think they're getting a fuckton of gems? Because I don't know what else you could mean
>>5032921415 STR isn't 5 attack with a pickaxe so 25 is still wrong.
HmmmKill AlecShouldn't have messed with me
>>503292141Yeah I gathered as much now, still, I assumed we were talking about ATK in the first place and that's not ATK, so you referring to the pickaxe's damage instead of an ATK stat never really crossed my mind so I got lost in the sauce a bit. Helps that you never mentioned the pickaxe and just said "heh, up to 25, wink wink"
>cursed doll>fleed
Well?
Wtf, chests with bones shouldn't be allowed to have exploding box trap on fail
I got 1 legend, and 29 bonesshould I redeem?
I wonder who will appear today...?
>>503293672
>>503293880Was a 7 BP 100 Fortitude Jean.
>>503293672I haven't run into that trap at all yet, funny
>>503293880save it for future banners. Most anon here have 70++ bones for gerard tho
>>503294660>most anon here have 70++proof
>>503294729Just check the previous threads image. Are you new?
>>503294660>saving for a diluted pool full of kniggers instead of having your Alice buffs last 6 turnswew
>>503295006no proof? no proof
>>503295040why should I save every image in 4chan? Kek.
>>503294729I certainly don't, been burning my bones to try to get an Adam dupe or 1 (one) Alice.Don't know why anyone wants to go for Gerard anyway when WLana is so much betterI feel like the argument against Lana is basically that knights are shit and she needs to be a fighter to truly shine, and that you'll never see that class book in the shop. But what does that say about the fucking guy completely locked into Knight? Pulling for him for a potential future OP class is in an entirely different league of cope than Lana who has a class now.
They should really extend this or add a different one like the increased trade-in items in chests one.
>>503295448Eh I'm sure there will be some kind of cycle where we have some kind of boost like this up most of the timeJust remember to save up next time we get one of those "sell items in chests" boosts
>>503295448I want a junk buff campaign instead. Extraction buff would be good too.
>>503295353>and she needs to be a fighter to be passable*
Waiting for the Alice bikini or harem outfit alt.
>>503295598An extraction buff would be nice until you realize that that means that any time you get a good stat you'll feel obligated to keep it in your 400 slot inventory until an extraction boost rolls around
>>503295353>you'll never see that class book in the shopweep
>>503295651Fighter WLana is the best fighter in the game by a mile and you know it anon. Still, the point was that if you're one of the people that believes Lana is hopeless, Gerard is beyond hopeless.
>>503294660>70cuteIt's already been a month since the release. You are bricked.
>>503296243Good luck on the cash-in I guess. Hope you get more out of it than a bunch of tags
>>503296243enjoy your ban
>>503197858specially endearing since my Olivia is also a spear user!
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my daily gold is now 4kbut my tags are still 3x weekly...
>>503296479>buff to 1 hand swords>has 2H sword in artwhat the FUCK
>>503296467You could at least get your waifu's name correct, anon.>>503296479They haven't made the change yet, if that's what you're pointing out
>>503286741Depending on what they intended with that tool, Solving that is as easy a prepping a "Set attack power to 1".
>>503295874I wonder why isn't W.Lanavaille fighter in first place.Even moreso with the new increased ASPD passive.She's would be like a perfect character to speedblitz enemies and pickly pick off enemies that aren't killed by magic AoE in one hit.
>>503296549Come back when it's 5k.
>>503296606>implying Lanachad isn't wielding that with one hand
Character that can wield 2h weapons in one hand when?
> 11 x 5How doth one make it op
>>503296479Devs must implement a way to see that artwork in game.>>503296467Made for a Dokuneko Noil doujin.
I have an absolutely amazing 4-star purple beastkin small shield.Would love to pair it with a two handed weapon.
>>503296885sneak attack.You also need every other 5* equipment to be +20 (full attack/acc)
>>503296885Basically a massive investment in ATK/ACC substats on every piece of equipment BUT the mattockBasically you're making your character OP and the mattock is the "best" way to take advantage of thatI wouldn't worry about trying to make the pickaxe work yet, if ever
-50 ACC really sucks
>>503296885>-50 Accuracy>-50 Surety
>>503296673Guess they wouldn't be able to sell the class change book to you if you could change class simply by swapping styles. Or there's some other merge-related thing stopping you. Makes me think that later alts will be similarly boring, having the same class as the default one
My Cursed Wheel is all filled in properly and selected. I got Albano bondmate. But I didn't get a LUC light.... Please tell me they'll fix it and I'll get it eventually.
>>503297197Built for defloration and nakadashi
>>503297118>>503297197You can abuse the mace bug if you're ok with half damage.
>>503298890You really shouldn't be missing if it's on the MC to begin with.
After we do the sahuagin scale quest once, do we ever need to go back and do it again on other routes or true ends or something? Or can I finally sell these things
>>503299593Sell them. You can skip all the quests between arena rounds by selecting their outcome in the wheel.
>>503298890>mace bugswitching-from-dagger-to-mace bug?
>>503299593Pretty sure you need at least 5 more if not 10 because there are at least two other outcomes to the Gessi fight, one being needed if you want him with you at the True End fight
>>503301332Mace to whatever else, start a fight with a mace then switch to enjoy free stuns and guaranteed hits. You most likely lose axe defense penetration or dagger crit if you do this, so if you want one of those then start with that weapon instead.
>>503295353Elemental teams+Leon S.Wizardry=Not a bad investment in the long run.Besides, my gut tells me they're going to give us even more gifts for the entire unlimited maintenance works ordeal, so there's no harm in trying to recruit him.
all the dorados I get have 5 points...
at last
>>503305765I imagine it's not the same for everyone
Ladies and gents, reddit has finally given us something good
>>503306491what do you mean?lana is never good
>>503305948Hello fellow wind chad. Most of the people are stuck with fire aoe
>>503233639The blocked hit has to be a close-range physical attack (e.g., Ent's Slant Cut). If an enemy already suffered an Opening, they're immune to it for the next turn (so once every two turns at best).
>>503301915Scales are needed for the pepper for Geuzen. None of Gessi's quests have anything to do with them.
I will rape Lana's English VA
>>503305948What's your second element, earth?
Since WANA has different skills now, if you combine them do you get all four at once? And you can only level the skills with the right version?
>>503308263when you merge you can choose between lana and wana, and choosing decides which skills they get
>>503308263>at onceNo, it switches depending on which one's currently active, exactly the same as right now with how discipline isn't shared.
>>503306905>>503307541Yep. First Wind then Fire
>>503308701>fireThen Earth actually I'm quite tired from doing the Mausoleum lol
>>503308701>>503308879Was gonna say, hadn't heard of that particular combo yet. I'm Fire main/Wind sub unfortunately. Which sucks, but I can still farm pier quest with Yekat/MC alone so it's not the end of the world and will pay off later I guess
>>503308549>>503308578Oh that is significantly worse. Damn. If the skills would be swapped I would have preferred them to be more different. For example Wander - When holding a 2H weapon attack is also added to Defense. They are way too similar.
>>503308701The skeleton ruins Yekat
>>503309459The skeleton makes her one of the only interesting characters
>>503309797t. Skeleton
can anyone show me base stats of +10 mage's robe?
>>503310253There's a skeleton inside you right now, anon. You'll be one of us before long
Oh hey just got Amelia's 3rd page.daaamn guess she is evil in the true sense
>>503310349
>>503310550>+8 magici guess it's worth using even at low stars
>>503310627Something's better than nothing, depends on whether you think the low-grade iron investment is worth. Because that shit is a bitch to farm
Dispatch system would make a lot of sense to give passive income of resources>Get walled>Need upgrade>Do dailies + dispatch>Get some more resources to help progress
>>503311536That's what it is now except the "wall" is a lack of content instead
So far the only weapons I got to strengthening level 2(+15 max) are a water dagger and a water 2handed axe. They're the most dropped weapons for me.
>>503311634It.doesnt give upgrade rocks or tags
no update today, right? Only on monday?
>>503312239If you mean content then you missed the previous announcements of hiatus. If you mean on progress they gave us one last night
>>503312434i mean 1.1.5 where they remove all the bugged gems/bones
>>503312579They haven't said, how would we know
>>503312579I don't think they gave a date for when it was coming
>>503312579>where they removeThat's not happening in the next update.
>update during weekendNot happening, japanese studio is too busy suffering hungover
Stupid japdevs, get back to work until you commit suicide.
>>503313210>hungovernah they are busy suffering from back pain from sleeping in the office
>>503313453If this is the output we can expect when they're sleeping in the office I shudder to think of what they can do when they're working reasonable hours
What are the good spots to grind xp in the port town?
>>503313761Honestly I think the end of the beginning abyss gives better exp than port town, until you get to like the ship or something maybeShould still be farming port town for the better junk
>>503313761if you have Yek+another mage, you do the pier defense quest and nuke down the first two waves and run away and repeatno wheel shenanigans needed
>>503314230Yeah I guess pier quest is still good even if you can't nuke them down with two shots
Wait, so if I don't find the Saint's Shield ore before B8, the quest is destined to fail? I totally forgot about it.
>Grinded for gear from lvl40 MC to lvl50 on 2nd class>Only 1 good piece of gear
>>503315549Yes, it's a key item for the king's survival. Dylanhardt also needs Elmon or Vernant alive (so they sacrifice themselves to save him before Helmut), and you have to kill Helmut before he Rams three times. That's the absolute minimum to not get executed.
>>503311536dispatch system is great and most tactical games could use some form of it, even not gacha games(although there it would take in game time instead of real time)>sending x com rookies for some training or guarding recon duty its great way to expand roster and actually use it for something beneficial
>>503317286At lvl100 we'll be able to save the king before the boss uses ram once to save him alone, kino
>>503315549I guess if you don't do it before B8 the logic is that they don't have time to finish itBut really that's just where he's given the shield so if you haven't done the quest by then they consider it failed
>>503317763I bet the boss survives with 1 HP left and kills the king with his HP-scripted ram anyway
>>503317286>>503317779Oh, turns out I could come back to B8 and the shield cutscene would trigger. Wonky timey wimey stuff.
>>503317908you wont get the LUC light tho
>>503318024Is that the Albano thing? I'll come back later and do it, I want goodies from the water area.
>>503318213It's the "perfect end save everyone" thing but yeah it kind of is the Albano thingThe flags for actually getting the luck lantern are pretty fucked though, so it'll probably be a bit more complicated than just saving Albano when you go back to it. You'll probably have to redo the shield quest at least.
>>503318434Right, I didn't save the skirmishers or anything either, so I'll put off a third run-through and move along.
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm just release new content I know they already have it made!!!!!!
>>503318836They already had den of malice made too and we know how that went
>>503293670Dwarves are meant to be stubborn
>>503313761ship hold/lounge
>>503318213If you can grab some earth weapons from the den of earth, it'll helpB6 of the water area is a bitch, so mentally prepare yourself and bring a Harken rope
Leveling up in 10 level chunks sure feels good.
what stats mages want? Obviously magic, then enough atk speed to be faster than thieves. That still leaves a lot of stat slots open...
>>503319795Forgot the image.
>>503319916>nip runes
>>503319857More magic
What stats for Debra?I put all points into dex, and I regret it because it only increases accuracy.Daggers are useless since we can use Mattock Digger or something.Speed vs STR.Which one is better?
>>503319974Still leaves plenty of slots because certain armor pieces can't have innate magic
>>503319943I'm not worldly enough to enjoy the english voice acting, my bad. If it makes you feel any better I have no problem reading the moon runes personally. My ass has been reading moon runes for like 20 years at this point.
>>503319857They don't need to be faster than thieves, just faster than the enemy. High 40s mid-low 50s is plenty.
>>503320516mages are mostly used for farming. If you are farming with 2-3 aoe mages, if your thief goes before mage, that's a waste of time
>>503320049Honestly? DEF or MDEFMAG/MAG/DEF on gear that can have MAGASPD/MAG/DEF on gear that can'tNot really sure what else they could even want, RES maybe? Seems like kind of a shit stat
>>503320659>how to brick your mage in one easy stepDef and mdef are useless. All damage and speed, otherwise evasion.
>>503320729>Def and mdef are useless>invest in this stat that does nothing unless they have a million insteadMakes sense
>>503320814Defense does literally nothing unless it's high enough in relation to the enemy stat. Mages have low as fuck defense by default. A chance to take no damage is better than reducing damage by an amount approaching zero even if that chance is small. And if you ARE getting enough to matter then taking no damage is still better than taking a small amount.
>>503320516You need like 59ish to outspeed the succs
>>503320948There sure are a lot of anons that talk as if they know literally everything about the damage formula in this game, yet I see a comparatively small amount of posts that actually show this knowledge.Basically I'm saying you're full of shit on how DEF works
>>503321132Play the game.
>>503320948>Defense does literally nothing unless it's high enough in relation to the enemy statWhat ever happened to "damage is Atk-Def"
>grind dirt gear for the water dungeon>get water gear from the dungeon>upgrade both to high levels, dirt to easier grind water and defeat true final boss and water since next dungeon could be fire>next dungeon will actually be wind making dirt gear suicide and water be worse steel and I should have been spending cash on the fire den upgrades insteadMan now I am schizoing about that possibility and started grinding fire den too to get some fire weapons and armor ready for content
>>503321235I will, and I'll be preferring DEF or MDEF over EVA on my backrow for all those AoEs from bosses they'll never dodge in a million years
>>503321287Just eat Adam and you can use whatever element no problem
>>503292207That quest is bugged and will give gems every tine
>>503321287I'm less concerned about that and more concerned about all this water garbage polluting my inventory that I can't get rid of because its dungeon will be coming at SOME point
>>503319857What I'd do is put it all in IQ and then fish for aspd on gear.
>>503321264If you have 200 hp it doesn't matter if shit is doing 100 damage per hit or 150, it's still a two shot. You have to reduce it below at least 99 for the defense to matter, as an example. If you aren't increasing the number of hits you can actually take the stats do nothing.
>>503320729Getting enough DEF so they dont get oneshot in the backline is kinda usefulOr you could just pray to RNG and reversal grope them back to life if you're unlucky
>>503321615This is a far cry from the "reducing damage by an amount approaching zero" bullshit you first spouted>If you aren't increasing the number of hits you can actually take the stats do nothing.I'm pretty sure increasing DEF will do exactly that in many situations. Certainly more than increasing EVA as your third-highest priority stat when you really need to go all in for it to pay off
>>503321379
>>503310490>Call her a dumb beastnigger>she kills your whole partyWhy are beastfolk so violent bros
>>503321867Yea I ate him and do normal damage to wind enemies with my earth spear
>>503321983Have you actually compared the damage you do with that vs your other element spell?
Is it safe to do Gerulf's quest?
>>503322315I personally would not do it if I had any discipline on Gerulf. They did say they were working on it and maybe they fixed it at some point, but I cleared it with a 0 discipline copy so I don't know. The reward is probably still bugged, I haven't seen anyone say that Lulu told them they did a good job collecting enough ore.
>$1.50 weekly sub for 600 inventory slotsHow mad would you be?
>>503322029Just for you I compared and its the same dmg for elemental weapons.Earth Greatsword with Adam passive did 164Wind Greatsword with Adam passive did 160Tested in the Den of Wind where Earth would be doing reduced damage.
>>503322484It doesn't need to be a sub, natural roster expansion will continually drive the need for more slots. Just sell permanent slots for a bit more than that so I can laugh at the 400 slotkeks coping like Kancolle 100 slotters.
Eva vs def discourse aside, what do you think? Any changes? I skipped %stats on purpose, since they are pretty rare and give half of the flat amount, which doesn't seem as worth it. At lvl100 obviously mag mag mag% will be king
>>503322991>just sell instead of giving them for free like any non-jewish developer would
>>503323231first gacha?
>>503323316I thought this was a game?
>>503323001EVA can't be on gloves
>>503323231its time for you to stop being a hoarder
>>503321892Despite being 13% of the population...
>>503323001fighters can try using EVA, as they get counteratk, their warrior battle cry reduces their own def, and their low hp passive skill also boosts evasiondepending on calculations, atk% might be useful earlier on fighters as well, since fighter base ATK is 120% of their STR
>>503323358mb, i had two gloves with evasion in my inventory so i thought it can. I guess i altered them
>>503323345
>>503322508Need to feed my Amelia an Adam since she has a nice +atk +atk% +15 water dagger
>>503323231>>503323316They're not gonna literally paywall it anons, it'll cost gems like every other game does>>503323001>>503323358>EVA will realistically only be on two pieces of gear in this setup on mages since we can't control the 4th slotWith this context I think stacking one of the defensive stats actually would be better honestly
this malice event will end tomorrow, right?because 6 days ago i heards it will end next week (tomorrow) but they make it visually 31 december (actually not).show me your exchange
>>503313582working long hours often results in sloppy code
>>503323001I understand your logic behind skipping ATK/MAG% but I would still call them higher priority than anything aside from flat ATK/MAG and maybe ASPD even now
>>503323861With these devs we're lucky if it results in any code at all>>503323825They haven't said when it ends yet, I know they're retarded but why would you assume it'll jump from 38 days to literally tomorrow
>>503323001Is there more to this?
>>503323825No one said that. December 31 is a placeholder date but they'll give some heads up before ending it.
>>503323001Is it generally accepted that ASPD isn't wanted on frontliners at all? I get Thieves of course, but everyone else?
>>503324186speed only matters for turn order. Mages care about it because they want to go first to aoe/debuff, same for healers for buffs
>>503324186yes, we don't need ASPD. What we need is SPEED because of evasion.Evasion is more important than even DEF.Especially if you are macroing.
where the FUCK is the water switch for the funny fish fight? it's in the locked trap door, isnt it?
>>503324937It's on the first floor of the ship. Left side and up a bit.
>>503324996I would kiss you but that would be gay
>Galina hates getting dirty so much that she actively keeps herself cleaner than other charactersSOVL. Or maybe a bug.
For octo, is using hidden + sneak attack worth it? He aoes a lot, so hidden will get dispelled often, no?
Why threads are slower and slower?
>>503324186aspd is good on everyone. Having your entire team go 1st is literally an extra turn. >can alpha strike enemies weakend by AOEs or get to kill them instantly with sleep bonus damage>in tough fights, get to defend so that damage is massively reduece and now you can exploit openings with your thief on their next turnIt matters the most on mages but it's good on everyone.
Wait, what? That slow fade after Helmut 2... do you have canon sex with Arna?
what weapon should priests wield, defender of faith look alright
does def debuff increase magic dmg? there are no mdef debuffs
>>503325554Lack of content
>>503325630defender of faith is good on anyone, everybody has 30+ piety
>>503325584I don't remember
>hat of water god gives you buffs underwaterit would have been better if it allowed casting spells...
>>503325554Game is on path to EOS
>get to 4th floor of waterfloor>get into flow >drownwth?
>>503326442Investigate all sides of the water trap.
>>503326442Have you tried not breathing the water?
i wish you could do dispatch on dens
>>503325416her vitriol becomes a shield
>>503326442Investigate the area you came, the dead end, the door, and the statue. Lulu should prompt you to investigate the statue again.
Yeah that's cute but I don't have anything to do anymore...
>>503324186 That's a shit take from people who are only thinking about bosses and not about fighting two rows of succubi and skeleton mages 12 times on the way to the boss.
>>503327489that's what mages are for
Ninja Gerard confirmed
>>503327489any tips for beating the shit out of succubi?they seem more resistant to sleep/stun
>>503328076my yeka just oneshots them
>>503328076With me it was basically nuke with mage, delay attack with thief, hope for the bestAt the point I'm at Yekat can easily oneshot them though, so they're not much of a threat unless I get ambushed or something
what element is bird boss weak too?
>>503328076I stab a bitch with my thieves
>>503328076Delay attack.
what's the best location to farm IRON gear for unify? ship gives me steel mostly...
Why is Lulu such an asshole
>>503330004Because she's the last boss.
>>503329062I think beginning waterway gives more high tier iron. It's definitely not the ship, that give steel and water gear.
True boss seems just about barely doable with a shit fire team around level 45, I got him to the third phase but lost too many party members and didn't bring enough MP restores. Might wind up just waiting for the next content update before I go back and smash him with a level 60 team.
You can have Gessi help you if you do his quest
Got poison breathed into scurvy breath'd in arena fight 2Any way to reduce their damage? Does it count as a spell?I don't want to pay the tag tax
>>503330647Are you the anon that posted some days about starting the dungeon first time with fire team and refuses to make changes to team because you like the characters too much?
>>503331048No that's a different anon, because I'm that anon. But I'm not as far in as this guy. I'm at the octo mage + minotaur fight. Not stuck or anything, just taking a break. I ate some adams though so I'll probably be fine.
you guys weren't kiddingship floor 2 top spawns 1-3 chests all the time, fairly short, some mobs but 50/50 chance to simply run past or if you do fight, just flee
Im capped on storage but have 600 chestsmy inventories are maxxedidk what to do
>>503332668Fire saleSell crap, unify items to condense them down and they can be used to unify with good stuff later, extract gear.
>>503331048I just can't be bothered farming up more frontliners. None of the current cast of melee characters are that interesting, including Gerulf and Lana who are my current frontrow. Amelia is alright, though.At this point all I've got left to do is farm a few bondmates and grind out upgrade mats, the current gear in the game is shit and not worth farming given how quickly it'll be replaced.
>>503332967>Quickly replaced>No new story for monthsevent dungeons won't have new gear
so how's the doomsday clock looking?
>>503326145Don't even joke lad, I just got here
>joke
When does crucible mausoleum resetI've never done it...
>two gas bomb cnests in a row
mage bis obtained
>>503337820Die
>>503337820I'm stealing it
>Mage (You) AoE bugs your character Holy fucking shitWhy did they even zoom you out if you don't have a face or proper body? Just make you wave your hands after burning the card or something
>elf midget is a rape babyYikes
>>503338460I had my Viviana get killed during combat and she literally had her head twitch violently, its fucking creepy man
>>503338460It's not only mage MC that's bugged.ThiefMC's Sneak Attack is bugged too.
>>503338764Why do you think she is midget? Dwarf genes
>>503337820>not MAG%Brick
>>503337820And then in 2 months a guy will come along with a +50 5 star steel ring.
>>503339073mag% is half of a flat value
Met a guy in tokyo who works on this game, he told me to expect content in December
>>503339192At higher levels, % is theoretically better. But I heard that % applies to your BASE value right now, which means it'll be junk until level 100.>>503339569Did you tell him to make the tits bigger?
>>503339569That was me. I ried to you.
>>503339569His name? Hideo Kojima
>>503339595if i had to guess, 10% mag takes 10% of IQ and adds it to mag
Why are women like this
>>503293880How do I farm bones? I haven't seen the bone picker in like 5 days.
Running out of tags... have to choose between uncapping new characters to 30 or main members to 50 to have full team for true final boss and actually clear it...
>>503339842The mag you get from IQ, not IQ itself.. A 100 IQ fighter would get less mag from it than a 50 IQ mage because fighter IQ to mag conversion is shit.
>>503340158>he's unaware
I really hope the guy with 250 bones saved up comes back and lets us know how many he lost when the staff take them all back.
>>503341079>i can't wait to wake up to -2000 gems -30 bones -20 tags in debt
I got so much dirt gear from grinding earth den but its all 1 star and rare 2 stars. I am afraid of unifying and upgrading the 2 stars because I just know I finally get that 3 star right after
>>503341705Just unify it. If you get a 3star you can still use it to unify
Where are the dev offices if I wanted to send them a gift basket?
>he doesn't knows
Can I farm the book you get for finishing the church route? It's only a 1 level skill that scales with piety, but I guess I could put it on all my characters for a small damage reduction.
>>503342080It's probably on a cooldown like other quest rewards.
>he lacks critical information
>>503341780I got a 3 star helmet on the run right after that post.
>>503341079Anon, you can't be this gullible. There are other tells besides this, like 2 being a bit different shade and 5's are exactly the same. I don't even know why I'm bothering showing this, you should know better.
>there are "people" wasting their life farming and optimizing non-maxed rarity generic gear>there are "people" toiling away at the dens for stones to upgrade said gear
Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of shit whiffing. Evasion go brrrrr.
>>503343508based
>>503343293We see who laughs when new dungeon hits
>>503343285Oh, and just the fact that ruins screen has animated background with dust and shit flying everywhere and those two images have somehow have exactly same one.
>>503343293>>503343669reminder that it's a pvp dungeon, you race to the end with others
Just got a 3-star purple one-handed mace. Yea or nay? The damage is really rather low, which is a turn-off, though I guess the accuracy and evasion damage is nice.
Another day in the mines...
>>503325584>do you have canon sex with Arna?
>>503326145>EOS>devs put out paid version on SteamAll according to plan.
>>503296479How hard is it to obtain this version of Lanavaille if I don't spend any real-world money?
>>50334530118k gems
Reminder that just because legendary chance is 5% and banner featured is 2% doesn't means you are Kinji Hakari.I myself had to spend 14k gems to get my W.Lanavaille, not counting the free W.Lanavaille bones from Savour the Risk mission pass etc.
>>503345301Rerolling is free.
>>503345817I have to wonder what the hell do they even do in a dungeon to get so dirty. Do they Soulslops dodge roll all the time?
>2 days threadI am sorry, I won't bake the thread ever again. ever.Come back.
I will never forget being banned for off-topic during the week the game was released even though I was clearly discussing things related to the game.
>>503345953Ehh? How? This is literally my first gacha so I have no idea what you mean, please explain.
>>503346285you delete the account, then create new account. start over again until you get Wanderer Lana. Need 20 minutes each
>>503346285He means you can always uninstall/reinstall the game to get first few free rolls to roll until you can get the Lana you want.
>>503346285You create your account.Play until you can roll on the gacha.Collect various gibs from mail-box etc.Spend your gems, ROLL THE DICE ROLL THE DICE.Didn't like it? Delete user data and try again.Can't really say how many rolls you can get since shit's a clusterfuck now, but you should be able to get at least 20-30 rolls on W.Lanavaille's banner.Do note that her chance is 2%, so you have about 18% of getting her on a 10-roll.
Binomial probability is a fucking lie, mathemics are nothing but a very elaborate scam, all those theories and applications are just bullshit created by clowns to pretend they are smart.
Hang on, can you have bothnormal Lana and Wandering Princess Lana in your party at the same time? I know you can't have two-of-a-kind under normla circumstances, but those two Lanas are technically different.
>>503346681No. And if you are, your account has been flagged.
I want to play Wizardry 6 again, but I don't know if I can handle the fact that it only has 1 tileset...
Really hate that the AUTO button is literally millimetres away from the FLEE button.
I need 6 beastkin shoes for unifyYet none dropAnd i couldn't hoard them before because if storage capAAAAAAAAA
>>503347080I'm a literal retard and I've hit defend instead of spell list about 3 times already.
>>503347092The game needs the option to unify lower level shit when you try and upgrade higher level equipment. It's tedious to back out and find other crap equipment to upgrade so I can use it as mats.
>>503348342also needs a search function for every facilityso I can just select what I want to see like if its bronze, worn-out etcwould make selling stuff a lot easier too
huge if true
I want to take this Princess and raise her into a good queen so badly. I can fix her bros just give me a chance
>>503349406She's too retarded, can't do it, really.I wish she was actually just a misguided villainess with a good heart in the end, but no~~ they had to make her just a retard.
>>503349476She is easy to fix, just pump her full of (wal)nut and don't let her make any real choices.
>>503349476Don't say that, I'll use my hand to turn her into Loli Pulgritte and turn this into a Princess Maker game
>>503349828Based
Who let this child in the tavern?
>>503350220uoh
>>503350220Let not this goblin deceive you, for tis nought but a hag.
Let's see what news we get today
>>503349476
So this quest bugs out if you go directly to Butch instead of collecting the reward from Rickert first
>no announcements todayOh nononono
>>503351190It's a weekend
Today I'm going to raid the priest tomb.I hope I can get a Galina with 100 fortitude.Yesterday I raided the thief tomb for an Amelia but I got one with 80 fortitude. Q.Q
>>503349476Nothing little rape correction cant fix
>>503351946Isn't the 80 risk like 1%? If you hit that twice in a row you're the king of bad luck.I should probably do the knight or fighter tomb soon, I'm running out of shit to do anyway.
>>503352210It’s 2% I think.
Are shields considered heavy/light/cloth armor?Will I have to farm "light" shields for when wanderer lana's passive gets fixed?Mine's rocking a really nice shield of the covenant.I hope the passive gives at least significant increase in ASPD per piece because I wasted a lot of time doing extractions and farming gold to get high ASPD on my Steel Heavy Armor set for Lana.
>>503353684Shields come in 3 variants, there's the circle small shields, the light shields that are triangular, and the heavy shields that are like squares. I don't know if the TL staff had enough room to make the difference obvious in the translation.
>>503353946That's not the problem.The question is: are shields considered weapons or armor?
I've been waiting for this moment for all my life...
>>503354095That's a very short life
>>503354045They're armor, but like every other armor piece, they come in one of 3 varieties.
>>503353684They're not considered armor, they're shields. "Light armor" means the body.Viviana's passive, for example, ONLY affects wearing cloth body. you can wear a light steel helmet, gloves, and boots and still get the +10 evade.
Thought I got Galina's because of the name but in the end it was Marianne's
>>503354578Galina should be straight laced or something, I don't know what they translated 堅物 to in English.
>>503354537Do you think just equipping a 1h Sword and Steel Light Armor will work, since I got a really nice Steel Heavy Armor Boots.
My first +20. Pretty good!
>>503354775Yeah it's obviously meant to work with the Breastplate of Hope and the Blade Cuisinart.
>>503355094>resRough.
>>503344408daily schizo triggering
>>503355094not even the best ring in the thread >>503337820
Wow, legit shat my pants there for a sec
FINALLY I didn't get fucker over for once.>>503354681Galina's bone was the "Puritan"
whats the item you need 5 of for each route in the second abyss? sahuagin scales?
>>503354775If its like 1ASPD per piece of light armour while using a 1H Sword, then it would be pretty worthless, so I hope it's just 1H Sword and the chest for the sake of her banner gear:>>503355110
>PuritanGalina was really made for anal.
>>503356056Yeah, but I only needed them the first time. Both other times I was able to skip a bunch of the quests with the wheel.
>>503356156ntaI wish I knew this, fuck my poverty life
>>503357524You seriously didn't check the wheel after every fight? You can skip most of them.
so generous, he gave me gravel scroll for helping him...
Weeklies in this kusoge are the worst>just enchant new weapon 5 times bro>just redo same 3 non-daily requests, you sure like to do it every week broSeriously, what the fuck is their problem?
>>503358078I complete the weekly on the second or third day so I guess it's pretty easy desu
>>503325554Case study of how to misdeliver not just a video game but overall product from top to bottom
So is the cursed wheel useless for most part of port town? Still on floor 6 and no branching paths appeared.Did they really forgot about it and hastly made the arena just so they'd had justification to put it in?
>orphan girl bond leaves>Now the carriage sounds nonstopWoah my first bug
>>503358078They should really add more objectives so we can pick and choose which we complete. Makes no sense that you can ignore certain dailies but are stuck doing all the weeklies.
>>503358857Beat Port Town first
Don't forget to buy monthly pack to show support!
>>503358857If you haven't already seen one obvious branch point you might be bad at video games.
I'll probably need a guide for Octotard
>>503357943NTA but I tried it but game bugged and even when I had the flags on and dialogue as if I had done the quests the game treated some of them undone anyway like squid song. So had to wheel and redo them.
>kill myself because I didn't liked how my fight with Messi was going>forgot I need to accept death to do it again
I like Marianne, should I feed my Alice to her? What's so good about Alice that makes her not as good as my precious Marianne? Is there a point in having two priests lying in wait? TOO MANY QUESTIONS!! I CAN'T DECIDE
>>503361945>point in having two priestsYes. Dispatches.I actually had to level more priests after using the additional dispatch from pass since they were failing without one.
>>503361945Alice is a memeMarianne is the quintessential dungeon priest since her heals and buffs are extremely cheap to cast. "Buh muh alis nuk and extr buff tturn!!" oh yeah that whole extra turn when you can only have up to 3 buff icons per character at the same time, and if you want to nuke something, just use Yeka or Adam.Alicefags are silly
>>503361945Alice is the best priest because she's the only one with access to a nuke (labadios)If you feed her to other priests their buff duration increases by 1 turn at the first level of alices passive inheritIf you plan on using other priests for content (not dispatches) it's worth feeding 1 copy to that priest
>>503359235I was considering spending money on this game but it turned into kusoge so I just bought skins in other gacha instead. Maybe when Devs get their shit together.
>>503356148you were made for anal, now bend faggot
>>503359235I'm not spending any more money on this game until new content gets releasedt. dolphin
>>503358078>Weekly missions are too easy!You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to be upset about huh
How the fuck do I kill the Mimic for Albano's quest? I've managed to get 2 Opening hits in for 3.2k damage each but I have no survivability against it for much longer.
Just about to start Waterways. What am I in for?
>>503364045Savour the risk.
>>503363804More like too tedious once you run out of contentI understand you are slurper, so you will defend this game weeklies or poor income, or powercreep from first banner, or no content and bugs and exploitsStill, i wanted to express my opinion in this dead thread
>Succubus flies down when casting spells
>>503363952Keep defending with your front line, use accuracy debuffs and evasion buffs. It doesn't matter who hits it, it's added damage, not a multiplier. Just have your mage bonk it.
>>503363952Get lucky in its first two hitsUse thief to keep its accuracy downUse mage/priest to either heal or cast Makalatu spellDefend three frontlinersthen use your thief again to use the accuracy down spell
What a pain in the ass place to reach
>>503339569Did you tell him to make the tits smaller?
>>503361945You are going to need more than one team. Eventually we'll 100% get content that requires so.
The dens are fucking garbage.At least port town gave me enough water gear to build at least +5 sets for a few characters and some weapons
It's cool that there's a secret optional dungeon after defeating Octonarus. This game really does have so much heart.
>>503364687You have to reach the area WITHOUT taking any damage or you're fucked
>>503364769The factually correct answer.Everyone should be already preparing 6 good characters, 6 evil characters and 6 neutral characters.
>>503365005don't forget 6 mages for farming
>>503364116>tediousAll weekly missions in any gacha require you to play the game. What are you even on about retard? Most of them will be finished or close to just by doing dailies, and you'd have to be literally retarded to take more than 30 minutes to open 20 chests for a weekly mission.>slurper>powercreepAh you're retarded.At least try to pretend you aren't one of the usual shitposters
>>503364902Is that what his secret area is? Any good loot?
>>503365520No, the loot is all crap, but it's cool that it exists.
I love the game but it keeps fucking lagging, or is it just me?
I see no reason to up myself to Iron Grade unless it unlocks somethingFar more useful to do it to my mages and priests since it expands their MP pool and strength of their skills
>>503365729You have to grade yourself up before you can grade anyone else up
>>503365005I don't see them doing much alignment content outside of dispatches. Elements, maybe
>>5033652796 mages already included since you run 2 mages on every team, right?
>>503364769>>503365005>Eventually we'll 100% get content that requires so.By that time powercreep will make standard characters only usecase in aoe farm if mage, and skill fodder for anyone elseYou WILL roll new priest with secret art of ressurectionYou WILL roll new knight with immunity to instadeathYou WILL roll advanced classes like ninja and shitOr else that kind of content will be unclearable to you
>>503365783I'm yet to unlock the Knight class
>>503365729Iron grade is kind of bait, makes the grind to 50 so slow. Get MC's classes up to that 2.1m level 50 exp mark before you do it, level 40 is plenty>>503366015Use your damn lanterns, dummy
Can you get surety on boots? Can anyone check in their inventory?
>>503365969won't happen as the crucible of Wizardry's game design is it's difficulty. We'll get all sort of branches, but nothing that will make the game easier in that regard. The devs want to make a Wizardry game first; the gacha shit that you believe that model will 100% follow doesn't have place in it. It's already shown in how little is the difference between the SSR's and SR already.
>>503365729>>503366103There's literally no point doing the grade up when enemies proportionately grows stronger for each level your character has
>>503366103I did use them I got most classes to lvl 40 but I still need to do the same to the Knight classIf I grade myself up to Iron it'll take even more time to do it since the exp gain will be marginal compared to now
>>503366276I don't think I've ever seen an enemy above level 40 even after hitting 50
>>503365969>No powercreep yet>anon already getting lost in his delusions of powercreep
>>503366220>won't happen First banner is already a powercreep, so powercreep now will be expected from each new banner. No way to rewind this either anymore>It's already shown in how little is the difference between the SSR's and SR already.You don't play the game.
>>503366409>First banner is already a powercreepYou just say words without understanding the meaning huh>You don't play the game.Not him but you clearly don't and are just here to be a faggot for the attention your parents never gave you.
>>503366409holy shit, nah, you are *actually* really fucking retarded and not worth my timeif the difference between wanderer lana and chikawa lana is "powercreep" to you get the fuck out of this general and go back you never played a wizardry in your whole life and it shows; and even beside that, holy FUCK, you sound like a colossal faggot
>>503366562wana is a straight up better version of lana, how is that not powercreep?
do I merge my lanas
>>503366675>Insignificantly "better"(whoa 5 whole aspd you could get from gear bonuses) limited banner is powercreepYou get bigger boosts from limited banners in any other gacga
>>503367181today it's 5aspd, in a year it will be +20% dmg
just passing by to say that alt lana objectively powercreeps regular lana, and that the retard trying to insult people by saying they've "never played a wizardry in their whole life" is a permavirgin loser.
>>503367181I wonder if it will be only 1 ASPD per gear piece or 2
>>503367181>>503367604reminder that you can lvl up the passive
who needs elemental damage bonus?
>>503367660You can level up anyon'e passive.
>>503367660reminder that you can't, dumb-dumb
>>503367908DIE
>>503367660reminder you cantyou are thinking of the innate passive, innates cannot leveled stoop
>>503367660>>503367951That one is tied to the damage boost regular Lana has which can't be leveled up.
>>503367908Altering SUR over more ATK?
>>503367908That's a good sword. Nice work.
>>503367415>post so retarded no one gave him a (you)Don't spend it all in one place.
>>503367908>he refined before hitting +20I thought it messed up your bonus stats if you buffed them before getting to one of the increases?
>>503369017It messes up your bonus stats if you buff them before you get to the increase in that slot
>people think action speed is super powercreeplul
>>503369017>he refined before hitting +20learning more and more every day how I bricked myself
>>503370097I don't recommend +20 anyway. Big investment for something that could be outclassed by the next tier of items at +10
>>503370773like 200k gold going from 10-15 alone. Thats why I only have 2 +15 weapons. One for MC and one for my waifu
>>503370773It's going to be a while before we get to that point. Any progression is always tied to major story quests, and those takes couple to several months to happen.
some ya'll kniggas need to chill
>480gems a week>I barely go up because I keep wasting them on stupid shit like well reset or iron ore.
>>503371913
>>503371913Yes, those sure are dumb things to waste them on.I feel like you posted this because you want everyone to call you a retard or something
>>503372054low grade iron ore is just that annoying to farm.
>>503372171>>503345062Come to the mines with me.
>>503372171You know what's more annoying to farmgems
>no dispatch for low grade iron>no dispatch for elemental junk
Alice!!!
>>503372539The available dispatches really are poorly thought out
Holy shit the Iron Exam is cancerousWhere is the Boss in this accursed place?
>>503372742>where is the random spawning bossroru, rumao
>>503372742At the last spawn you check
>>503366978Piggybacking off this anon, I have 2 Lana's and 2 Wanas, what's the best way to optimize the inherit/discipline/merge here
>>503373104AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>503373104wait for the fix
>>503373181This is supposed to be a reply to >>503372742Found the Boss btw
>>503373304Yeah no shit, that's not what I asked
>>503373104If you don't have a 100 Fort WLana, or maybe if your bonus rolls on both are terrible, you could discipline them awayThen the fix will take away that discipline and give you two guaranteed WLana bones to roll againANYWAY, when the fix actually goes come for you, that's when I would merge your best WLana into a regular Lana, discipline the other WLana into them, and use the other regular Lana as skill inheritance to level the WLana's heal up
>>503373729>that's when I would merge your best WLana into a regular LanaUh, I don't think it matters THAT much but I meant to put this the other way around. Merge your regular Lana into your best WLana
There we go, 3 dps with +15 and the rest with +10. I will now do better than 95% of players when the competitive dungeon comes out.
Can you stack the White and Red adventurer passes?
I want to use the wolf guy but he seems so weak compared to the fire dwarf or lanaville
>>503378618Just do it anon. Even if it's true you'll live
I killed Helmut on 2nd attempt! He didn't summon rocks this time but did more ramming.The poor king...
>>503378618Well they all suck so don't worry about it too much
>>503379135seeing how the princess behaves i wouldn't put any kind of hope in the king being benevolent or worthy of your empathy
Did I already brick my 2nd run by telling Lulu we traveled before? Also she's a liar!>women
I'm going to grind some exp todayHow much exp does the Cave of Malice offer anyway? Does changing the difficulty alter the amount of exp?I feel B8F still is the best place for training
>>503381803Nah, you're good. You miss out on some funny dialogue for playing dumb though
What Lana says when you add her to your party is frightening. She is not ok.
How do you change to Earth element, I feel like it was an option here before but now it's these.
>>503372998It's always this one, the boss never spawns at the bottom swamp.
>>503349286Reprobus the Chud
I like that when you reversal bones, there are little hints to who it isI had one with a flower/weed growing through their eye socketI think Adam or Lana have crowns on their skelliesI just got Asha from the mausoleum and she has a little armband (or is that all mages?)Also, why is Asha called a single minded mage? Don't say sex.
>>503385367The other Luck side has a change element nodeMine changed from the left side to right one as well
Do store bundles affected by the reset?
>>503386081guess I'm bricked till I do a side quest
>>503387034>>503386081according to the rentry, all 3 choice stat nodes and elemental type nodes will randomly change everytime you reset the well of mindalso thanks rentry anon for putting west mausoleum map inI'm going to savour the risk next run
>>503386070It's a small detail, but there's a separate skeleton for Dwarves. Has anyone else noticed this?
Anyone else find it weird that one of the tavern conversations is about finding a solution to triggering treasure traps?It's not my fault that Debra is a blind fuck that somehow misses half the traps on the ship chests. Are they subtly trying to tell me to kick her off the team?
>>503378618He's fine, but he is a Knight and they're kind of ass. Despite using him and Alex in my frontline and still using Wanderer MC, I've been getting by.
>>503388865Huh? Those conversations are about spike traps.
>>503378618His class change is most likely going to be one of the added advanced classes, so that might help buff him. I think he's actually better than lana as a tank though, he's built for evasionmaxxing and you can easily slap counterattack on him.
>>503388865Yes.You should only use humans and elves.No dw*rves or beastf*lk allowed.
>>503389015Explain how I got the conversation from farming chests on the ship, which has no spike traps.They're not only about spike traps.
>>503378618build him up anyway.since he doesn't have a class change, he's probably gonna turn into a new class like lord or sam eventually.
My first fight with Octonarus was absolutely brutal. I managed to beat him, but just by a hair's breadth. So for a week, I grinded new equipment and got a lot of my gear up to +15. This time, I absolutely flattened him. It was insane, the contrast. Octonarus is definitely the hardest content this game has right now. I can't wait for the new stuff.
>>503376151Yes, you can see this nip getting experience from bothhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vs-QK_mcNA
>collect 5 sahuagin scales>only shell coins
>>503389207Amelia is competent at traps
Non-penetrative intercrural sumata sex with Galina because she's a puritan!
>>503223040Thats a female, breasts and everything anon
when maint
What level do you recommend for 100%-ing the Donato's Redemption request? I remember the goblins showing up in like groups of 7
>>503394746Enough level so that combined your mages and Alice have enough MP to row AoE multiple times over 6 fights.
>>503394746I did it on my 2nd go around, so probably lvl 19+. There's 6 fights but I think only 3 hobgoblin hordes, the other 3 are just 2 or 3 goblins. If you have a mage to nuke at least twice you'll be set.
>>503395020>>503395057>multiple timesThanks, I'll get right back to grinding Amelia's ass
When do/did you start running 2 wizASSrds? Or is it a meme formation?
>>503396602Once they have AoEs, and enough MP to fire them off multiple times, and you know where you're going.
>>5033966022 wizards very gud, not a meme.
>>503396602It's kind of a gradual shift. It's not a good idea early on, but later it becomes pretty ideal.I figure it happens somewhere early in the waterway, depending on the person.Mages get more MP so they take longer to run out of gas, and by that point your thief or priest might be sturdy enough to move to the front to accommodate needing two mages in the back.I think one mage is still viable if the dungeon is longer though, especially if there aren't many crazy groups you need to blitz down with AoEs in it. Can rely more on your frontline to carry since they have more staying power.
Can't wait until SP jobs get a row cleave and a nuke.Sissy casters will btfo.
>>503397495A melee nuke probably ain't happening any time soon, would be some absurd powercreep and kind of remove the mage class' entire reason to exist. Especially since every relevant debuff would probably be inheritable by non-mages at that point.
>>503397414Yeah 1 mage still works, I ran one mage all the way through waterway up to like the 4th arena fight now.
>>503394746I managed to do it the second I got it. But there's nothing wrong with putting it off especially until you find the one guy's body on B4F.
>>503396602meme formation.
>>503397767I also think that double mages only seem better than they actually are since we're all in endgame where we're only doing brief farming runs.Hell I run triple mage lots of the time these days, but I'm also not going to do that when we get new legit content
New thread? We almost at bottom of catalog.
>>503397807>the second I got itGive more details because the earliest possible point you can get the quest is as soon as you step foot in B2F and I don't think that's what you meant.
>>503396602katino both rowsor katino so your aoe mage that hits elemental weakness gets +50% dmgaccuracy and atk debuff on bosses in one turnobviously they're dependant on slinging spells though, so pray you don't run out of MP and have to hit stuff
>>503397960Once you get high level mages I still see it as pretty viable. Double sleep or double line clear is no joke and my mage usually makes it through with just a little mp left over. But yeah, really both work.
>>503397495I feel like row and big aoes should stay magic. SP jobs should get pierce through and smaller area cleaves
>>503398693Pierce though is something you see on the lizards, makes a lot of sense and would add a different mechanic not currently used for the player party.
Cleaning (reversing) the gross slimy water statues feels so satisfying.
>I think Adam or Lana have crowns on their skelliesThat'd be Adam. Normal Lana has her shattered handcuffs on her wrists, and Wanderer Lana has her ragged cape on top of her remains while we're at it.
Still waiting for someone to decrypt and dump assets so we can see if female skeleton on the reversal mini-game is actually based on female skeletal anatomy or if they are the same as male skeleton.
>>503400761The pose and skull shape of female skeletons are different. If you see a big head its obviously a dwarf
>>503398062Just make one once we're at 750 or so and link in the old thread like every other general
>>503401229>tourist advocating for subhuman behaviorNew threads at page 10
No new thread until we hit image limit.
Savor the risk of being bumped off
tfw your thread has permadeath mechanics
No new thread
+1 past bump limitNo contribution
surely this is some kind of torture
Cannot bump.Thread already reached bump limit.>>503402542I hope you have something long to watch.
>>503401342Havit it your way autismo
QUICK, ANON! USE YOUR RIGHT HAND OF REVERSAL ON THE THREAD!
bwos, we're turning into ash...
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>>503309797Have two skeletons for twice the interest.
