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WHEN maint
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>>503403520
glad I hit refresh before creating a new thread
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>>503403520
a princess enduring torture
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>>503388865
>she does it again
>this time right in front of Debra
Damn, Yekat is cold

>Debra pretends it's not her fault and blames me for not having a solution
I think Yekat might have a point
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>>503404350
I like Viviana
When you say we got unlucky with ambushes, she interprets it as you going soft on her for not detecting them
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Repeating OP picture from two threads ago? Don't you have any better material wizkeks? Guess the roadmap to EoS is being reflected on the general.
God, imagine already dying in less than 3 months.
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And to think some anons were even dreaming about divegrass teams a few threads ago.
Roru
Rumao
Better wake up to reality
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>503404981
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Dead... general...
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I'm grinding
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I'm playing Etrian Odyssey.
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I'm farming sahuagin scales

I'm killing whoever made this quest on fucking god
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shitposter is that desperate for (You)s. sad
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Doing the first few Districts or the ship seems to be way more efficient than repeating the Pier Request
At least this way you can get loot as well
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>recommended level 38, 6 evil, 2 thieves for a dispatch
anyone here tried this dispatch?
is it worth or should I spam other dispatches
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>6 evil
I don't even have enough evil characters that level
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>>503407660
Is Elise... you know?
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Strong-willed womyn are weak to anal.
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>>503406845
>>502940136
I got old remains from the intro and my B7 bones
B6 didn't respawn yet, but I think my B4 chest did
Screwed up my jumps and forgot to try the Death Stench request

>>503407065
I think the knight npc gives you one for free after you meet him enough times
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>>503407878
Will murder you in blind rage to protect things precious to her? Yeah, I think she will.
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Is wild strike with 2 hit weapons broken?
It only hits once, and the damage (level1) is around the as a level 1 heavy strike which is way cheaper to use.
What is the fucking point then?
I feel like wild strike might have been supposed to be 2hit as well, with 2hit weapons, but it is not working correctly.
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>>503403520
why is lana like this
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>girls frontline 2 in 11 days
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>>503407878
She keeps saying something about how she's going to show off the techniques of an erofu, so I don't think so bwo...
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>crucible has 5 bones
>resets every 2 weeks
>10 tags from weekly/login in that time
>+10 if you dismiss the previous crucible set
Alright anons, crucible resets in a week. Is your gear good enough to get that fresh set of bones from fresh start all the way to Melgina or Octo without needing to be carried by your existing units excluding MC?
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>>503409357
Going to fap to porn but not gonna play it
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>>503409357
>Dofus Unity in 11 days
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>>503409736
Why play dofus when wakfu a better game
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>>503409357
oh no bwos I don't know if I can no life 2 gachas like this
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Why don't characters remove their gloves when eating?
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what do people even eat in the dungeons?...
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For I have the mermaid's protection! Hihihihahah!
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>>503411209
Rations, dried food and dehydrated fruits and nuts?
Don't know if they have affordable glass and metal sealing technology though.
Probably some kind of soup with fountain water?
Rather, how much time they spend in dungeon? Because believe it or not humans need a lot of water, and water not only is heavy but takes a lot of volume.
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>>503409357
>>503409736
>PoE2 in days
I bet they'll have server issues again
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>>503407065
Bro, I just sold all my sahuagin scales, picked up the quest an hour later and realized I needed to farm them.
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I wonder how they sound in jp
I've come to like their en voices
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>>503412649
I want to rape Lana's EN VA
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>>503409357
Raymond was the true risk to be savored all along.
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What is the point of the soldiers/knights/pirates that want an antitoxin?
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>>503414375
no real reason
they gift you stuff if you find them after you help enough
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>>503414375
be a good person
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>>503414375
they gift you multiple items higher in value
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A shame if you go back you have to give them again
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>>503404350
Beast-Thi never misses.
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I really want to kill a lot of people.
I bet they wouldn't act like such cunts towards me if they knew I had time travel powers.
They better be thanking god I'm not a chinese or korean regression novel protagonist.
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>>503415760
groundhog day moment
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>>503415760
Big Skeleton Soldier energy.
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Mermaid meatz good medicine. Cry pearlz. Sweet songz. Scalez good coin. Good trophy.
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>>503412149
in my mind i though that the dungeon is like a day job kind of stuff goes in 3-4 hour a day maybe even less and spend the rest of the day outside of dungeon doing preparation work
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>>503415760
This uncle is courting risk
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Finally a good shield to give to my frontline Fighter
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So what what happens if you accept the free resurrection from the church if you dont have enough gold? Does it fuck me over in anyway shape or form?
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>>503417245
Your loli is sold to a nobleman to pay your debts
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>>503417245
the character gets raped
nothing much besides that
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>>503417359
They do lose some fortitude to the experience.
They already lost fortitude from the death and now they lost a bit more from the rape, so things can get tough if they die again before it can recover.
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Apparently if you increase the well of the mind passive attack buff too much it disappears and you don't get the increase. Tried getting it to 7 and it vanished from my skill list
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>>503417948
That's well documented already
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>>503418106
Cool I just learned about it though
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>>503412149
That's why Adventurers are so strong and well-respected. Knights and soldiers can fight, but adventurers can pack a bag and manage supplies.
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>>503418106
Where can I find this novel's worth of bug documentation?
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>>503417948
>Tried getting it to 7
They need to show a skill's max level more easily, since 6 is the max anyway.
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>>503411209
I carry around spare elf bones to reverse as emergency rations.
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>>503418396
The jap wiki has a dedicated page
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>marcille in dungeon meshi can revive falin from her leftover bones

she's literally us!
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>>503418597
Same, but I carry around beastfolk bones to use as bone broth soup stock in emergencies.
They are no different from animals anyways.
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>>503419302
I tried that but my party kept complaining about them tasting gamey.
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I should probably lower the water on Gessi but Lulu is saying I'm a scrub if I do
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How does elf bone soup tastes?
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>>503419508
Not soup specifically but....
https://exhentai.org/g/1086734/6bf77247f3/
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I saw some recipe about how to make anime meat just because.
Gonna try making some with normal minced meat and eggs: but the catch is I'll use beastkin bones for the drumstick then I'll serve it to my beastkin party members lol
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Also tempted to run a cycle where I kill Elmon and use her bones for soup just to know how genetic failures in elves affect taste.
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>cannibalism and degeneracy
What's next? Making sausages and preserving food just like warped ones?
The abyss and the cursed wheel truly makes one go crazy.
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Elves and beasts aren't humans, it's not cannibalism.
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>>503419263
well we're not exactly reviving
think of it as turning back time to before they died
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I just spent the last hour going in and out of the pier for the Regia bondmate. I only need to meet her one more time but she hasn't spawned for the last 30 minutes. Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>503419861
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>>503421404
>>503421639
Do you think the dungeon meshi author is into guro?
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>>503416470
>>503421056
trvth nvke
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>>503421639
I am only into like half of those tags sadly.
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How do you get to the second town? I heard that has really good gear. I just unlocked den of earth.
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>>503422667
Save the king
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>>503422667
When you finish the first dungeon.
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>>503421639
Every part of the elf is edible. Nothing goes to waste.
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>>503421545
I finally got her. And I would have missed her if I didn't check every nook and cranny of the pier on a whim. Fuck's sake.
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>>503422773
I tried.
He died.
>>503422785
I just did.
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>>503424170
Do it better this time :)
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>>503424170
>He died.
You didn't finish the first dungeon if he died.
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>>503424170
It's SAVE the king.
Not bring back his corpse.
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>>503424170
>he died
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>>503424170
It's all Lulu's fault
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>>503424549
I hate this ghost more than can be put into words
>want to know where you went wrong? You're weak and couldn't save anyone. Oi are you listening, I'm talking to you. Whatever when your dead in a few seconds we can be ghost pals.
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>brutally murder a bunch of fairies
>Yekaterina: "They sure were cute, huh?"
W-what?
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>>503424170
Now you'll die too
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>>503425928
She says that about weak enemies
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>gary the brave will be missed


wtf
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>>503421056
Still won't fuck you quatro.
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>>503426561
I got this today with Gigi. His bond doesn't go away, but it doesn't go up a level either. I guess these bonds can only go up to level 1?
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Gary's bond only leveled up if you wittingly let him die again.
Which always felt odd, so I already thought it was broken somehow, just hadn't thought it would be because it was supposed to be level 1 only.
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>>503421056
wife material
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wait a minute, changing weapon in this game doesn't waste a turn? are there any nice trick tie to it?
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Reminder:
Send your maxed exp character to dispatch. If you don't have level 60 already, you are bricked in Pixie event

>>503429925
you can only switch one.
Twice then you will crash.
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>>503430338
Do you guys just manually keep track of how much experience you gain past the cap?
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>>503429925
There's a bug that allows the weapon you swap to to keep the traits of the weapon you start the battle with. So if you start with a mace and switch to a sword, you'll do half damage on a miss and so on.
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>>503433105
so dagger to mace = high acc and sur?
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>>503433204
You only get what you started with. Dagger to mace should let you keep the increased crit rate, but your attacks can actually miss now and you'll never get the chance to stun.
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>400 max storage
wizkeks?
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>>503433105
Can you swap from a 2h weapon to a 1h sword and still get the extra Strength+ damage?
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>>503434243
Strength+ is just a mistranslation, it means that the weapon is 2handed (aka requires more strength to wield)
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>>503431746
I don't really understand the question. Why would we need to manually track anything?
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>>503434401
no fucking way
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>>503434401
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>>503434401
That is not at all what it means, what the hell are you talking about? You can use 2h weapons regardless of your strength. The Strength+ trait means you get a 75% attack bonus from the weapon, it's to make up for the weapon needing 2 hands
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>>503434780
post your proof that i'm wrong, you can't
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>>503434401
By that logic Strength- means the weapon is 1handed so every 1 handed weapon should have it.
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>>503434889
I actually can but it's funnier if i don't.
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>>503434401
retard
I guess we are back to dumbasses spreading misinformation around here
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>>503434935
i accept your concession
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>>503435079
>he isn't getting the hourly bone on b8
bricked
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>>503434401
Strength+
aka weapon much better with strength
it is the reason why 2 handed weapons have as much atk as they have.
if you are gonna lie on the internet at least be funny
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>>503435079
>back to
my man it has never stopped
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>>503435270
they have more attack because they only hit once
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>>503435451
Just my wishful thinking, I was away for a few days...
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>>503435453
if I hit you once with a twig on one hand and then hit you harder with the same twig on the other, you will barely feel the difference
but if I hit you with a sledgehammer on one and then hit you with all my strength, one hand will have a few broken bones while the other will be splattered all over the place
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>>503415351
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>>503435849
then explain why 1h staff and 2h staff have the same physical damage. 2h staff has strength+, why isn't it dealing more?
>b-but it's a magic weapon
Doesn't matter, it has strength+ passive.
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>>503436107
I'm seeing 173 attack power on my Ophelia with a hardwood 2handed and only 117 with a hardwood 1h.
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>>503436107
>2h staff has strength+, why isn't it dealing more?
It is though you stupid fuck
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I think when I proved what STR+ did whenever I did that I might have phrased it badly. But to be clear:

Pretend you are a fighter with 50 strength and are using a 100 ATK Strength+ weapon.
Your base, unequipped ATK is going to be 50*120%=60.
Your weapon's attack will be 100+75% of base ATK, so 145.
Your total ATK will then be 205.


>>503436107
Because you're using it on a mage. If you can even GET 50 strength on a mage, their base attack would be 50*50%=25 ATK, then because Japan hates mages, they only get 50% of THAT as ATK from Strength+ (literally the only class with a different multiplier here). So they only get an extra 13 ATK.
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>>503436107
I hope you understand how retarded you are
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>>503436107
Here you go, genius. He's clearly getting more out of the 2h staff than the 30 he's supposed to

>>503436560
Mages still get more than they're "supposed" to, even if it is less than other classes
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>>503436560
Do mages get shafted even harder with strength- on the pickaxe?
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This is my second time here and I still hate this room
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it's pretty nice
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>>503437029
No idea. The last time I equipped it, it gave me like 5 attack and that's not a big enough number to do any math with.

>>503436861
Yeah, its' just hard to notice because most of our current mages are elves which tend to have extremely low strength, with a big strength penalty, and a second strength penalty on top of that because fuck you.
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>>503437208
I always just stand in the corner out of the water and let enemies come to me
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What's worth taking the time to extract?
Do you extract all the +2/+3 stats or only if the enchant is good on low tier gear?
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>>503438062
its worth it if I get something
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>>503438062
I extract anything that I would refine or alter
I take ATK or MAG especially regardless of how low the number is
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>>503437241
Well, I just checked and strength- is at least -120%, completely killing the strength to attack conversion so there's no difference anyway.
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Holy shit Octonarus fight is a fucking marathon. Is it impossible to do on lv40?
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>>503438062
> Extract all shitty *1 +ATK
> Put it on 4* grindable gear
> Extract the 4* gear
> You gain 4* ATK stone
> Put it on the main gear
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>>503431746
Yes, assuming you are talking about leveling up your units without unlocking the level cap.

https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/877807

This page has a chart where you can tell what level you are by looking at your total amount of experience. Keep units you want to level up as quick as possible capped so you can get the most experience possible. This page lists some good ways to grind experience, not all of them though.

https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/877710
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>>503424549
You wouldn't even be able to jerk off with this annoying brat pestering you for attention, and you wouldn't be able to correct her either, insufferable!
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reminder to hoard your bones for future proof characters.
unless don't have full legendary team yet.
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>>503441069
>Oh, you couldn't get a boner? Shall I tell you where you did wrong?
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>>503440430
>assumes extract works 100% of the time
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it's christmas
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>>503440430
Does this really work? I haven't been extracting much because it takes forever to do.
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>>503442246
>1* white steel x3 and 1 shell coin
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>>503441225
I needed tags so I rolled. I got exactly that, a bunch of tags. So you're not wrong.
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>>503443549
Why waste your gems when they'll add more ways to get tags in the future
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>>503443549
inherit all those free stats instead
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>>503444214
I didn't use my gems, I used the compensation bones that I was holding for no reason.

>>503444561
I want to. but I am holding off for now.
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>>503443549
>he dismissed stat boosts for tags
Bricked. A level 30 team clears all current content.
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>>503441225
>unless don't have full legendary team yet.
I most've gotten lucky because I had 1 of every SSR by the time I beat tutorial dungeon. I try to limit myself to 1 or 2 as I think it makes the party more soulful
>>503443549
don't waste gems for tags bro, do the mausoleum for discipline / tags / inherits
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How do I beat the centaurs in the mausoleum with as little harm as possible? Or am I destined to party wipe?
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>>503445006
you press the flee button
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>>503445006
It's easiest to just run away from them, they can mostly be juked. If you're on a route where they can't be, you're fucked, you'll probably lose someone before you burst them down.
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>>503445006
That's the funny part, you don't.
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>>503445076
About that...
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>>503445006
>centaurs
apart from the very first centaur fight, you avoid them in all your later mausoleum runs
there are maps in the rentry
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>>503445147
Keep trying, by the third or fourth try it will work in my experience
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I killed him because he didn't instant death me, just mazelos. Still a shitty unfun mechanic.

>>503445227
Nice game you got there Drecom!
>closes wallet

>>503445263
I mean it's like a story battle where flee doesn't just fail, its impossible.
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>open door
>centaur in the treasure room on top of me
Okay okay, I savored the risk here.
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>>503445606
The unfleeable one only appears if you paid gems to open 3 doors. Don't ever pay gems at the mausoleum just do it the long way.
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>>503446126
This dude really spent gems for free bones? I can't imagine ever doing that shit, even if I had a million of them.
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>>503446226
Not his fault, the game tells you to do it. You don't blame the victim of a scam for getting scammed. You just kinda silently judge them.
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>>503446383
>You don't blame the victim of a scam for getting scammed
I do in fact. It's their own fault.
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>>503446226
it is worth it.
All your parties are worth more than a measly 100 gems.
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>all these fucked up underwater levels
>draining the water is a staple of doing these stages
>fucking jap coded game is buggy as fuck, leading to not knowing whether the water level is actually up or down until you get into battle, and sometimes the pumps are bugged so you can't activate them and sometimes you can't see the circle minigame
I want to fucking drown the jap coder
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>>503447004
100 gems is half of a bone. Or a quarter of a class change.
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Do you have to give class change scrolls to a character? Because we could find out if they're 1 use only if you don't by just using the same character twice and seeing if the scroll still shows up on the other one after you use it once.
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>>503447405
you got much more bones than you spent if you were collecting thief's bones.
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>>503447529
You're going to lose all those bones. You spent gems for nothing.
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>>503447004
It's not worth it when you can easily get those gems for free.
More easily than paying even, considering paying spawns more fucking monsters making your job harder and more dangerous (especially since it spawns unfleeable enemies what the fuck I didn't know that)
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>>503447883
>when you can easily get those gems for free
get those bones* for free, I meant

>>503446383
There really is a lot of that in this game, it seems. Not sure if it's intentionally trying to scam or just incompetence, because they don't explain anything in this game whether it's related to spending gems or not
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>daily b7f bone chest had draught and junk instead
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>>503448097
I got mine earlier today
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>suddenly, underwater segment
Oh God this is reminding me of Elminage all over again. That's a compliment btw, I love Elminage.
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>>503447356
I just noted where the water started and lured the enemies into engaging me outside.
It'll turn into a endurance test, but at least I don't have to risk that sort of bugginess.
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>>503448030
it's always intentional.
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Post Gary the Dog.
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>>503448298
Gary the Brave will be missed
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>>503435895
that is the face of a woman coming
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I ***love*** Lulu.
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>>503426561
>>503427371
Devs capped a bunch of "easy" bonds to lvl 1 as a fuck you.
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>>503445006
They have a lot of HP but stun works well on them. Easier to just flee to be honest.
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>>503448232
I'm in ship level 2
Whenever I do the Marin quest for the arena, I can't detect the underwater niggers, so I can't lure them. Whenever I go for the pump, I get ambushed.
I need more words to express my frustration.
This also happened when I did her bond.
The ENT isn't hard at all, it's all these underwater niggers and their shitty pumps, and burning flames to recover from getting ambushed.
It's partially my fault for not wanting to play their shitty tag economy game and running around with 4 lvl30s.
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>>503449074
>tag economy
Literally everyone can get to level 40 with their main crew zero problems, you are just gimping yourself for no reason.
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>>503449275
>40
bro
bruh
brah
we need 6 level 50 because PVP events are coming.
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>>503449703
Yes and that anon is talking about level 30s. I'm telling them there is zero reason to be sticking around at 30.
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>>503440682
Oh I didn't notice the maximum of the exp bar increased once you hit the cap. At a glance I thought it was just stuck around 300k/300k at level 30 and I thought you guys had an notepad autisically tallying exp after each battle.
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>>503449074
acquire 3 soil weapons usable in the FR
acquire 1 soil wep for the BR (bow or spear)
get to upper 30s, ideally with an earth mage such as yeka
breeze through the content you are talking about
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>>503449275
Yea, you're right, I'm just being stubborn
I'm saving tags because I want more than 6 members to be over 40, but can't decide. I've already benched Viviana and Yek who are 40 and max bonded and was trying to bond others + Geluf.

>>503450136
I'm just venting about how niggardly I find the marin quest. I've already gotten the I.Q. lantern.
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>>503451393
Have you had any success getting her item yet?
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>>503451657
I did, but I don't know which steps are important
Marin was in the flooded room closest to the harken
I picked up the two pieces of holly
I then wasted the holly on he courtesan to see what would happen and got the bad end
When time reversed, I still had the holly and I killed Marin and got the hairband. The text said it was floating in the water, but I fought Marin without being flooded.
The fucked up thing is I don't get to keep the hairband to skip the quest in later runs.
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>>503452126
>The fucked up thing is I don't get to keep the hairband to skip the quest in later runs.
If you do 1 route first, you should unlock all the jump points in the other routes. All that differs is fight 3 because there's a different one for all 3 of the routes, and you have to redo the fights but they're easy because you can set the flags first without the quests.
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>>503452776
What exactly is the process of doing another route if you have to do all the fights? You have to go through the waterway, right? Then you go through the ship, and what, when you reach a fight just "jump" to the fight with the flags turned on?
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finally lvl50 wanderer
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>>503453289
take a shower
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>>503452947
Yeah, pretty much. You get back to the ship, and then you can check your wheel and set the flags before each fight.
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>>503453289
>that iq
More like level 50 retard.
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>>503453289
grats anon. if possible,can you try wheeling to awakening? to the secret teleporter on B1, maybe the teleporter on the waterway part lights up after you maxed all the class
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is daphne making the devs money?
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>>503454039
it brought in over 6m the first month
it easily makes money
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>>503449703
source has always been your ass
shut up
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>>503454496
Not that guy but they said they're releasing an event where users compete at clearing dungeons
Not the pvp you might be imagining since it's not us killing each other, but that's still a form of pvp even if it will likely just be a leaderboard.with ranking rewards
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>>503454039
They got $5 million from the japanese gov't on the condition the game release this year in addition to what they've made in sales. The rush to release partly explains the ridiculous number of bugs.
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>>503454821
>They got $5 million from the japanese gov't on the condition the game release this year in addition to what they've made in sales
Oh so that's why they didn't further delay the game even though they've delayed it 2 years already.
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Is it possible to rescue Vernant on the second loop? I remember trying to investigate his place of death but turned up nothing, and now when I started the 2nd loop, I have ways to rescue the other two, but Lulu says we'll just have to let him die this loop.
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>>503455018
You're supposed to be able to pick up knowledge when you raise the rocks that crushed him
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>>503455018
Raise the rock that Jill Sandwiched him to find out he died because he was too cheap to buy a new pair of sabatons, talk to the item shop owner, do a request for him then you can give the cheapskate the new sabatons to save his life.
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>>503454821
why does the japanese government care about wizardry?
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>>503455292
They care about Japanese game industry losing because they produce kusoge one after another
Investment is more about culture relevancy, as in 5 years China will dominate the market
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>>503455450
I'm glad they're making an effort to not rest on their laurels from the past 20 years
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F, guess I gotta go through this loop and then I can save him. Also anyone know any ways to play elminage 2, 3, and gothic in English on 3ds or psp? Seems there is no English patch yet.
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>>503455891
Effort in vain though, Daphne is still a kusoge that will EOS in short time[Sad News]
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>>503455292
>china has been subsidizing many games with huge budgets an the market is now full of them
>japanese game companies are top heavy with out of touch boomers overdue for retirement who think jpg collectors are still relevant
>despite this some nips realize they are falling behind and create a govt program that allows game companies to apply for funds if they meet certain requirements
I don't really know much about it though
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Still think it's an useless effort.
Nips can still make reasonably good console games, but gacha games aka the ones that can potentially print infinite money? The Chinese are experts on that.
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>>503455990
>Seems there is no English patch yet
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>>503456220
Ironically part of the problem is games like FGO have printed money since long before the chinese showed up so there is little incentive to make anything better.
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>>503453289
Why tho?
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Honestly, not a big fan of how undead weakness is handled in this game. All it does is just force me to carry a secondary anti-undead weapon for all non-mage characters, and switch it when a random encounter happens to me vs. undead. It's just a matter of inventory fiddling; doesn't necessarily add much depth.
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>>503456979
I appreciate it when you are going through the dungeon the 1st time because undead are a serious enemy and threat until you scrape together the weapons to beat them and mages like Yekatarina and priests feel amazing against them.
But yeah, once you put together the tools, it does just become a nuisance.
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>>503456979
Once you hit the second town you're honestly better off just smacking them with the new weapon types.
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Whats the point of the Shield of Honor it fucking sucks ass
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What's the point of Shield of Covenant if they all come like garbage unlike Steel Shields which at least can come as something usable
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>>503456979
The most annoying part is that the game is so rigged against giving you good undead weapons in the first place that it feels almost pointless to even use them after a point
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>>503440205
I'm waiting for my team to be lvl50 before taking him on
It's doable at lvl40 tho it's just a pain
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>>503458592
God Alice is fucking ugly, why would anyone use her over Marianne or Human Pri-chan?
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>>503403520
How is your general not dead yet? Is game actually not as bad as it looks like? It seems dated as fuck.
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>>503459446
Shit taste in priests aside, It's funny how nameless female human priest was localized down to "hu-pri". I wonder what they're going to do if they add more nameless characters later, like nameless male human priest. I guess that's pretty unlikely, though, given nobody is going to be whaling for Rs.
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>>503459519
Game good. And it leverages the visuals/atmosphere well.
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>It seems dated as fuck
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>>503459519
>It seems dated as fuck.
Zoom zoom out
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>>503459902
k bye
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>>503459446
Alice's only bad because of the floating heads and long strip things on her armlets.
Same as Yekaterina with doctor and Girard with the glowing blue things.
Overdesign.
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>4 runs in malice cave
>Get 0 crystal
whoever invented the event chest timer needs to get fired
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>>503408567
Didn't get B7 today even though B6 respawned
Weird little things these chests are I tell you
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>decided to do a meme speed mage build
>my lvl30 Flut is now faster than my main mages
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love how easy to anger she is
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>>503459601
I figure there will only ever be one combination of race and class
Honestly I'm not expecting any generics to be added at all, but certainly not a second human priest
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Just need to turn that Def into Mag or Atk and we're good to go
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>>503463327
>%
trash
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>>503463327
8% ASPD is fucking nothing anon, I'm sorry to say
ASPD in particular really needs to be a flat stat
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>>503463327
>double shit rolls
This is garbage, man.
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>>503463349
>>503463389
>>503463396
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Thinking of doing the bronze rank, but I don't have tags on me right now.


Any tips?
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Milkbros unite.
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>>503463389
>>503463349
â„… is godly when you reach level 140.
flat stats don't increase anything at that point
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>>503463839
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>>503463889
>â„… is godly when you reach level 140.
Yeah, in 8 years. Until then, it's just a failed roll.

Honestly, if % was applied after all flat stat additions, it wouldn't be too bad. I got a +9% magic earlier, if it actually worked how it should work, my 200 magic would boost up to 218, and it'd actually be decent even at level 50.
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>>503463705
Boss is easy, might not be a bad idea to use the priest's ailment resist spell on the front row, whatever it's called
My first run she spammed the fuck out of the stun and it stunned almost every time, but the fact that I still first tried it despite that should tell you how easy it is. The approach to the boss is far more dangerous like every trial, don't really have any tips for that

>>503463889
Other stats like ATK or MAG maybe, but ASPD won't really get high enough for 8% to ever be all that much
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>>503463839
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>>503464000
>if % was applied after all flat stat additions
you mean it doesn't? what the hell
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>>503464231
You know what your stats are without any gear on? That's what it applies to
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>>503463705
Sacrifice your dorfs
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Istg, some stats are not weighted the same. Mag/Atk can show up on helmets, yet i only have 5 pieces with it...
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>>503463839
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>>503465628
If I hand of reversaled mister bones what would happen?
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Reminder that if your purple gear doesn't have these 2 starting stats (you alter 3rd) it's trash
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>>503458002
I've yet to get a steel shield, regular or heavy, above 2 stars. Steel shields and SoC are both unusable garbage compared to the iron shit that drops with massive def, mdef, and asp buffs. I understand how probability works, and that with iron equipment being more common it's only natural to get more higher rarity/blessing iron equipment, but the numbers still don't feel right. I get roughly 1:1 on Iron to Steel equipment, almost an equal proportion of both, and yet the iron is overwhelmingly 3* and above while out of a thousand junk I have five 3* pieces of steel equipment and none of them were blessed. I'm genuinely convinced that the rates are wrong in the drop rates tab and that Iron and Steel equipment do not have the same roll table for quality and blessings.
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which quest gives pickaxe?
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I have the ghoul rizz
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>>503466171
lambert.
You must go tavern first to summon Lambert's dead body.
It's near the daily bone too.
So may as well do it daily.
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>>503403520
For Rentry:
Benjamin's question (camp) "tenets as our leader" can be answered with "to protect my comrades"
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I may have a problem
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>>503467796
this game is soooo biased towards large shield, my inventory looks like this too
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I just convinced a friend to try the game. I pushed eos date by 1 day, no need to thank me.
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>>503468657
I talked with my coworker and singed praises of this game to him and he just bitches about how shitty the monetization and pity system is
which I agree
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>>503465937
You're correct in that the rates are different. From normal junk, steel can only go as high as 3 stars. I'm not sure, but I think steel can only go as high as blue.

From fey junk, which is given from the daily quest or can be bought from the jewel store, you can receive 4 star and purple steel. I think it might even be possible to get 5 star from some fey junk.
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I'm kinda lost, bros.
I just translated all the mermaid text in the statues. What's the next step? Lulunarde said something about finding a lizard man to learn more about the situation... Is this implying i should rewind and talk to Gessi?
>>503403520
Lana is such a glutton!
>>503459519
The game is unironically fun as fuck
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>>503462642
>Literally gaslighting you
Elf women!!
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>>503467796
This is me too. I dunno where the hell all the regular shields are, I need a good one for my thief, and maybe another one for Lana after the fix. Probably won't bother with the Lana one though
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>>503469387
You need to talk to the mermaid princess to unlock the option to help
After that you can talk to Gessi the first time you meet
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>>503469813
Thanks bro. You're the best
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We're iron now! Please be more pumped Lana!
>(...)for someone as meaningless as me
Nyooo...
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>>503466678
>It's near the daily bone too.
Wait what.
What daily bone. What's this I'm missing?
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So how good of a skill is Assault Guard?
It says it greatly increase Defense Power on Ambushes but I can't tell how much
I imagine every Fighter that doesn't have Knight as a second class might see some use in it
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>>503470626
>>503096041
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>>503470670
Kinda miffed that a higher levelled adventurer doesn't give extra skill EXP when inherited.
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By the way, on what day was crucible Mausoleum last reset?
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>>503470670
It's very good, frontline barely takes damage with it
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I bet Lulunarde smells horrible, even when she was alive. She'll be one of those smelly country girls that rarely bathes.
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>>503470670
It's a LOT. it almost makes ambushes desirable.
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Interesting
The amount of sacrificed adventurers seems to adjust the tags you'll received upon dismissing the main one
Adam for example still is lvl40 here
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>>503470736
>>503470818
Daily bone is true and all (legality issues aside) but that breeze sword/mattock thing is annoying
The two aren't connected to each other
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>>503471296
it's because it refunds you tags used to go to lvl30/40/50
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>>503471296
WHAT THE FUCK
IS THAT HOW YOU OBTAIN TAGS?
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>>503435895
You just know she gets railed by adventurers every night and loves it.
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>>503471396
He probably means adventurers invested into them from discipline and stuff. Like if Adam is level 40 and bronze rank, he shouldn't be giving an iron tag normally

>>503471435
If you need them and have none, yeah. You get some fro ma weekly quest and a couple in the daily login every 14 days or whatever. But aside from that, you have to dismiss characters.
You'll have plenty of SRs that you're not gonna get any use out of and they're worth 2 tags. It's not that big a deal.
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>>503471396
But why I do I get an Iron Tag then?
I didn't even use the Bronze Tag on him yet (that's why he's still lvl40)
>>503471435
That's why we said to sacrifice your dorfs
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>>503471551
>tfw you realize she and WaterPort girl are wearing the exact same uniform, so Arna is going out of her way to expose her cleavage like this
This girl...!
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>>503471643
>But why I do I get an Iron Tag then?
Because it's a legendary
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>>503472117
Oh yeah that's true
I sometimes forget Adam is supposed to be a Legendary
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>>503472117
Legendary characters by default give a lead tag and a tag equal to their rank
So, assuming he's bronze, he should be dropping a bronze and a lead tag, not an iron
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got my 2nd one from rescuing the king again. Is it worth keeping? +1 to every stat
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>>503472363
I am curious what kind of numbers it has at +10
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>>503472329
Go dismiss one buddy
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>>503472714
Well, guess I'm wrong as fuck. Really had it in my head that I checked and it said lead grade/no grade tags shortly after release. My mistake.
Though it is funny that they drop a tag that we can't even use yet.
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i can't spawn the npc to take me to viscount Guane's Lands. I have all 3 routes done, i spawned it on princess, no im wheeling to church route and nothing. Any ideas?
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>>503473639
Weird
Mine spawned multiple time throughout the routes regardless of where I woke up
Have you tried going inside the dungeon and returning back to town?
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>>503473820
Yeah, i have... In princess route it shows up all the time for me too. Ill try wheeling to a different spot, maybe that fixes it
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>>503473639
try talking to Arna in the guild?
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>>503474060
nothing
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Is there a limit to the number of skills you can inherit?
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>>503474060
>>503473820
Okay, i fixed it. I went to the moment where you pick one of three requests, picked church, then wheeled again
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>>503474656
No. But inherited skills have a maximum level.
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>>503474674
I had an absolutely bizarre experience kind of related to this where, on the Admiral route, I was forced to do the Church Guane event even though I'd already done the Admiral's. It proceeded as normal - I visited the Pope and all that - and after it was done, it wasn't really mentioned again.

Until the epilogue. It played out the Admiral's ending... and then the Church's Guane ending. So my Admiral ending was a mix of both the Admiral and the Church epilogues. It was truly bizarre.

I truly believe we will never get a bug-free version of this game, but I don't really mind.
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>already saved Vernant from getting crushed
>make it to B5 Harken with all knights alive
>objective is now "Return to the Past and Find Way to Rescue Vernant"
What.
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>>503476413
Smarr indie company, prease understando.
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They really shouldn't have came up with this cursed wheel shit.
Bet they would have never thought about all the troubles time travel mechanics that don't reset everything such as Majora's Mask would bring.
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>>503476413
Don't worry, I've cleared every second dungeon route and I'm still stuck here. I've even gone back and tried giving him the shoes a few times, doesn't help.
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>go to the underwater segment in the western district
>very loud waterfall sounds
>harken back to town
>waterfall sound is bugged, continues playing even while I sleep at the inn
>only stops when I reverse some junk at the ruins
Funny game with its funny bugs.
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>>503476413
Welcome to the club, You will have that shit forever and ever.
Did you checked Vernant in the first loop on how he died? I forgot to do that and that's probably it got stuck on it. Doing from the 2nd run onward doesnt work on it and you're cursed to have it forever and ever
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there are those 2 slots in the outer edge spread around the well, there's a few of these. I'm assuming we can't unlock those yet since they are not even shown in the rentry guide?
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>>503477942
There's no connection to them, so you can never access them as you can never unlock their 'previous node'.
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>>503477775
>Did you checked Vernant in the first loop on how he died?
Yeah, I reversed all of the blocks the first time through.
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What's the best way to make money after rescuing the king? Trying to outfit my party with new iron and steel stuff from the port town but enhancements are expensive as fuck even just to get to +4
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>>503478130
Just selling the shit you pick up in port town should give you loads of money.
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>>503471551
Yeah, me
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>>503478130
I just start selling my bronze stuff, whichever ones I no longer need. And do the usual dailies and selling gold-exchange items.
Just be selective as to what to upgrade, you don't have to enhance every piece you think is good. It might be outclassed by the next couple hours of grinding/exploring.
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>>503478130
sell everything bronze, there is no level requirements and members at level 1 can just equip the lastest tier of weapons with no downsides.
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>>503470670
I see no reason to build Barbara when she's so yummy to feed my fighters
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>finally have both Alice class books
Do I dare?
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Weekly shop refreshed, anyone get anything good? I only got one bad page.
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>>503478869
>Vivania: Thief
>Valdor: Priest
WOOOW
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wew
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>>503478861
Yes, use both immediately and tell us if you retain the ability to switch classes

:^)
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Do i?
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Give me a single reason why I should put a man on my team
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>>503478861
I think you have to.
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>>503479191
It's time.
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>>503478861
Alice actually works better as a Mage than as a Priest
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Explain the mausoleums to me
I entered the crucible. I zig-zagged through the entire floor, killed a centaur, and eventually entered a door to the left at the north most end of the floor. There I got a worthless beginning junk and nothing else. And then the other doors were closed.
Now what?
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There's no porn of the elf midge...
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I lost
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>one SINGULAR book again
>it's another shithead adventurer I don't use AGAIN
FUCK OFF ASHA I HAVE ENOUGH PRIESTS AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE CAT EARS
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>new week
>only class-change scroll in the shop is a thief scroll for bakesh
Meh. maybe one day I'll actually get a scroll for the 5 I'm actually using.
Also. Why is there sometimes two scrolls and at other times just one?
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>>503403520
Damn Octonarus wrecked me. Melgina keeps spamming sleep and bleeds
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>Report back to Gessi, and check the Cursed Wheel, there should be a new flag on Arena Fight 5's Cursed Wheel. Cursed Wheel to Arena Fight 5, with new flag turned on, and the flag to give him Purple Garlic turned off (as for water switch its up to you, there's an achievement and bondmate reward for defeating him underwater), and battle him again. The cutscene plays the same, but there will some differences in later fight.
>Arena Fight 5'
You mean Arena Fight 4? That's Gessi
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>>503480635
Why? Because fuck you.
Yes, unironically that's the answer.
Design choices specifically to screw over you.
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>>503480226
There's 2 types of Mausoleums
One is the Crucible that has random 5 characters and resets after 2 weeks or so
And the rest which have all the characters available but you can only get them once

The idea is for you do rush for a door and flip the coin for a Bone or a random gear
Since you lose Fortitude every time you enter most just keep going back inside with 0 Fortitude (there's nothing wrong with this)

Regarding the Centaur it has fixed spawn locations each mausoleum so most just Flee from him
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>>503479060
>>503479469
I'll do it once I finish the first dungeon for real, hopefully today...
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>>503480953
whoops. fixed.
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>>503481156
So if I leave and enter the locked doors will open up again? Provided I pay the fortitude tax?
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I love the east path on mausoleum because although you have to do 2-3 fights the chances of you getting fucked by the centaur is lower than the west path where even if you juke everything you can get gangraped by horsecock,.
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>>503481373
Yes. You should do the one that resets first, I think it'll reset next Saturday if it's global.
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>>503481373
Yeah. I just do the right path every time because it's the one I'm most familiar with and it's easy to dodge the Centaur
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Do this one, it's foolproof.
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does anyone remember location of water god mask?
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>>503481826
Around the upper part of district 6?
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>>503481826
pretty sure you can't get more than one
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>>503482268
rip, i sold mine...
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Asha's tits...
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>last week was Lana fighter
>this week picrel
I just cant stop winning!
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>enter b5f for weekly
>10 chests on map
damn if only it was the arena
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>2 weeks ago was jarmil
>last week was dino or some other faggot
>this week is daniel
>never saw 2 books even though I played from launch
nigger is my account flagged or something
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Would Alice let me use her armpits as a pussy?
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>scorpion woman use spin2win
>High Eva Bibinia handily dodged both hits
>Still stunned
Uhm what the sigma? Did the Jap coder wrote 3 separate checks, 2 for the physical attacks and one for Stun vs Res?
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i LOVE superior japanese coding forked over 1,000,000 (hyakuman) times
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>>503483431
Honestly, I appreciate how many of the designs have an armpit focus.
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>>503483431
Only if Agora tells her to.
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I've sold so many unique equipment items because they're all ONE STAR WITH NO BLESSING and the auto-seller just yoinks that shit as if it's some bronze hammer garbage and not something with a unique use case. If only the game fucking warned you about that so you could go ahead and lock the items before they wind up in the scrap machine.
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>>503484512
Most of the unique shit is junk, though. The sandals are about the only item that actually brick you if you sell them.
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>Thief's Handbook (Viviana)

Man fuck off. I have gotten TWO actual class change tomes since release every other one I've seen is the class they already have.
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In fact, Sandals, Pickaxe if you plan to do a certain build in the future, and arguably Water God mask.
You could also upgrade those to +5 beforehand to prevent them from being sold.
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>>503484658
Oh and I already have this one, making it the second week in a row I've gotten a tome I already have.
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That as wso easy, evasion truly is king, i only got hit oncw
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>>503459446
i think she's cute.
but i will admit the moment we get a priest that's just a large breasted nun, she's out
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>>503485113
Your Garina?
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Wish she kept the cleavage like Asha
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>>503484750
+5 would be a brick, you want it at +1 to +4, so you can eventually get the +5 buff as meagre as it is. With any luck you may be able to rank up lower level equipment some day too.
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>>503484750
Aren't sandals overrated? Yes, they give +10aspd, but you can easily get that as a substat + more?
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>>503485565
aspd scales with enhancement of the sandals tho, that's the great part
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>>503485940
what the fuck were they thinking
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>>503486101
that you would only get a single copy
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>Whole team can hit level 50 on grade up
>except MC
>Need to grade MC up before you can grade any of them up
Guess they'll be 40 until MC gets enough to hit 50 on fighter.
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>>503485426
What a downgrade.
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>check shop scroll last night
>Oh priest Viviana, guess I'll pick it up in the morning, still a day before the new week starts
>week reset today

I blame other games for resetting on mondays
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>Higher sell price for sale items campaign ended
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>503487389
They'll do another one in a week or two, trust the plan. I'm still hording my tickets until the last possible moment for the sales boost, hopefully I can use them on the next dungeon where shit is worth way more.
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>>503487518
Fucking hell "in a week or two"
They have to give another one NOW
THERE'S FUCKING NO CONTENT
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>Sleep cure x1
>Potion x4
>Scroll Rockfall x1
Is that the setup for Octo?
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>>503487747
take a shower, the majority hasn't beaten octo
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>>503487764
You should have a couple of 300 HP heal potions too. And an anti paralysis on your thief so when you fucking revive a cunt and then the water level goes up you don't spend 3 turns with your dick in your hand.

I don't know how useful rockfall really is, the mobs are pretty tanky and you're better off just stunning them. Sleep might be the play.
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>>503487941
I take 3 showers per day
They haven't beaten Octo because the game's fucking boring.
Give more campaigns so people are willing to farm
NOW
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>>503488004
>You should have a couple of 300 HP heal potions too
They don't sell those for me. Do they unlock when you unlock lvl 50?
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>>503488208
I thought they unlocked when you finished the regular route?
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>>503488295
I'm on Octonarus fight and they don't sell them for me. I still haven't done the lvl 50 trial though
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>>503488490
Maybe it was the trial then. I feel like you're going to have a rough time at 40, I had a rough time at 50.
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>been using Gerulf so I can unlock his quest
>he's already capped at exp yet I only have 3 pages of his life story
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In which area can you repair this part? I already fucked up by losing one box icon of that becase I swithced before removing the water but I ain't sure if it's needed for something
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>>503489262
It's pretty clear where the rubble is and which waterway is used to push it to the hole
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>>503489427
it's just a shortcut then?
Shame

>>503488604
I have no clue but I pretty much started to get them as soon I reached level 40
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You can't remove that, right?
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>sound breaks during Helmut fight
>restart thinking it'll go back to that turn
>reset the battle instead
Nyo...
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>>503486274
non artist draw anon here, i want to make more memes and shit for Wizdaph since we're kinda lacking right now. i made this TGT edit and the doro one. any suggestions what i should make next? if not im planning to make to edit this but the MC instead.
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Image detection macros are great for pier farming.
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>>503488004
>mobs are pretty tanky
My Yeka was oneshotting them but she's pretty geared
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My game keeps crashing during the cutscene where Helmut turns around, will clearing cache work or is my game fucked?
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ez game
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>>503489679
No. It's one of the more annoying things Melgina can do to you, and one you gotta just deal with. It's not the biggest deal, but it is annoying. In general, the -def / - res debuffs are much more threatening than 50 dpt.
Also, re: prep, I recommend minimum 2 rockfall on everyone. 3 Rockfalls and the add waves die. Yeka can one shot them with Laerelik, if you have her high enough, but also it depends on her getting a turn first. I find it better to burn adds ASAP because then you can use whoever still has turns to continue debuffing/attacking Octo.

The fight is basically a rush to get Melgina dead ASAP so that the boss stops getting two turns and becomes more managable.
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>>503492040
Save your password first
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>>503491548
How do you make them?
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>>503453289
Homo-sama, I kneel!
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fucking awful system
throw it on my debra thief and yek mage pile
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they gotta make like a mausoleum or something for these books.
i'd be happy with one chance a month to choose a legendary book.
one every two weeks for normal units.
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where's this? (octo secret zone)
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>>503495020
Sure.
You onry have to spend 2,000 gems for that.
Do you rike?
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>>503488490
I got mine after the bad end, haven't taken the iron exam at all.
I find it interesting that you don't have those potions yet.
How much gold do you get in your daily and tags in your weekly? What level were you when you killed Helmut for the very first time and when did you do the lead exam? Have you killed the boss for any exam more than once or used the wheel to fight any of the harken bosses again?



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