Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!/sthg/ #7749 - Eggman Carol EditionAn Eggman Carol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvNWIMnu5Hw >Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Teaser Trailerhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=wV5wnYM11pQ >A Very Sonic Christmashttps://youtu.be/z2QIiOy6aw8 >Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Official Trailerhttps://youtu.be/OSOyFiOiNd4 >Sonic the Hedgehog x DC Comics Collaborationhttps://youtu.be/pCpY090QHRI https://x.com/IDWSonicNews/status/1870167326655726062>Sonic Rumble - Announce Trailerhttps://youtu.be/Em6-SjjaYQE >IDW Release Dates:Sonic the Hedgehog #76 - 05 February 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #77 - 19 March 2025DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #1 - 19 March 2025>General link compilation:https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4Phttps://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0>Perfect System Collection:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org//sthg/ OC info:sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive//sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Thread: >>507575919
THE MOVIE FLOPPED
DAS SHIPP
I just watched Pariah’s video on what they’d do if they took charge of Sonic, and it’s surprisingly solid. Here’s the rundown:First, they want to rebrand “Classic Sonic” as “Mega Sonic,” so he’s on the same level as Modern Sonic. No more of this “cute, lesser version” stuff—Classic gets a proper seat at the table. They also pitched a Knuckles Metroidvania (with Knuckles as the main character, obviously) and a fully 3D physics-based Sonic game that captures the old Genesis momentum.For Modern Sonic, Pariah says the Boost formula needs to die. We’re going back to Adventure-style gameplay, complete with remakes of the first two Adventure games and then a new Sonic Adventure 3. They also want a Sonic Rush 3 for fans of the handheld classics.Spin-offs? They’d resurrect Sonic R as a proper 3D foot-racing title, bring back Sonic Riders, and even try a Sonic JRPG that doesn’t suck like Chronicles did.As for the brand itself, they think the franchise should be rebooted to clean up all the continuity chaos. They’d split Classic and Modern into separate universes, meaning no more awkward crossovers. There’s also talk of rebooting Sonic SatAM, but keeping it totally out of mainline canon.And then there’s the multimedia stuff: a Classic Sonic manga with episodic arcs that revisit old stories, plus modern Sonic anime movies to retell games like Sonic Battle, Sonic Rush, and Sonic Riders, fixing any continuity issues and giving them fresh life.Overall, Pariah’s convinced this plan would please everyone—longtime fans, newer fans, you name it—and get Sonic back on track. Honestly? I kind of agree. It sounds like the big shakeup Sega’s been too scared to try for years
I want to fuck Surge
Why do birds suddenly appearEvery time you are near?Just like me, they long to beClose to youWhy do stars fall down from the skyEvery time you walk by?Just like me, they long to beClose to you
>>507593649Shadow...
What did surge mean by this...
Merry Christmas from me and my wife
I keep thinking I'm on Arch because of the Christmas theme
>>507593649Same, I need a punk girl with electric powers in my life
Chadow won
Shadria!
Iizuka has a message for you for the holidays.
>>507593840Gemerald.
>Sonic crossover with Dragon Ball>It's just Goku and Sonic fucking around doing stupid shit>Eggman steals the dragon balls to try to make eggmanland>Goku punches the life force out of him, killing eggman instantly>roll credits
Sonic
>>507593852now thanks to the third movie the normies know about their love
>>507593840Gotta show them how it's donehttps://files.catbox.moe/p4a17n.jpg
I love legs. Which Sonic girl would have the sexiest legs?
>>507593649Who doesn't?
>>507594102>off model
Silver
>>507593786I unironically have the answerTenrecs can make noise by vibrating together their quills, just like how crickets can vibrate their legsIt's something called "Stridulation", and it's usually done to comunicate stuffShe probably wants to chat with (You), but the subject it's either too important, or too embarrasinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stridulationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowland_streaked_tenrec
Reposting from the other thread: >Ian writing charactersFUCKING ARCHIE SHITEVERY FUCKING DIALOGUE IS FUCKING MUSIC LYRICS OR REFERENCES>Evan writing charactersmmmmmmm another le sibling-coded gay female partner for Silver and there is already porn of them and their fankidswow her villains are asswow belle is shitwow the sonic vs surge rematch became too sexual and created sonurge shippersI still trust her with writing game characters than Ian
>>507594172My beloved.
>>507594043Good, total Shadmari-anti annihilation.
>>507593834This is the same thing they said after Sonic 2 came out. They were 100% prepared to go forward with Eggman dying by plummeting from the Giant Egg Robo
>>507593834>we may have to wait until 2027 before we know if Carrey comes back
>>507594232Who is better with plots? I think Flynn might have the edge there.
>>507593971How do you think Tails would react to the Briefs family?
>>507594354Better with plot concepts? Ian for sure.Actually writing those plots though? Holy shit no. He gets halfway through an arc and just gives up.
Shadow
The designer of Surge thinks she should sound like Buttercup
why don't sonicfags stop bothering maekawa with the same question 50 times?
>>507594354The Metal Virus was a passable idea ruined by constant plot holes, tone deaf writing, and character assassination, just like how the Mimic plot was a passable idea ruined by constant plot holes, tone deaf writing, and character assassination.They're both bad, but Evan is somehow better.
>>507594450Are you sure? Evan also just throws things at the wall to quickly wrap up a story.
MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM WISCONSINI JUST PELTED THIS MAN WITH PORK
https://fxtwitter.com/kaho_urabutai/status/1871450375393538423
>>507594423Has Tails done anything as impressive as building a time machine?
Amy
>>507593393Just right
>>507594664total kike death
>>507594620>
>>507594478Weird, I always imagine her with Matoi Ryuko's voice inside my headBut that could work tooDefinitely beats the roygbiv horse voice that some people on twitter want
Thoughts?
>>507594421
Cowards? Run.I? Win.
>>507593631Sega won't do any of this shit, ever. They're too incompetent, lack of caring and awful with management to handle multiple Sonic branches. They can barely handle the one that they have without fucking it up which is why people only want 1 Sonic to focus on because more is gonne create more of a mess
>>507594519Because we're all autistic and have to categorize everything and can't recognize an intimate relationship that's neither explictly familial or romantic in nature
Metal
>>507594703Didn't he build a dimensional teleporter in Rush Adventure?
>>507594859>halflids>idwshit
>>507594628The truth is that they both suck, certainly hindered by the longer formats in IDW. Ian shines with the 4-chapter arc format which they really need to go back to, because holy shit this Clutch / Clean Sweep shit is just not working.
>>507594859I think you should go outside and get a real hobbie
>>507593649Sonic...
Amy has been waiting 30 years for Sonic dick
>>507594858You can also say Prime Tails.
>>507593631Why are you calling Pariah "they"? He's clearly a guy.
>>507594703Bulma only made a time machine in the bad future of the android arc.No, super is no longer canon
>>507594859I approve.
>>507594710Is a sweet and precious treasure! A beautiful warrior of love! An angel from the heavens above!
Everyone who was born in September was conceived on Christmas
>>507594859I think Sonurge is hot and more based than Shadurge.
>>507593631>theyPariah is one guy?
>>507594858>I always imagine her with Matoi Ryuko'sHell yeah
>>507595026Does he know?
>>507593393I think the fandom exaggerates how intimidating SA-era Eggman really was.
I liked the BioLizard cameo on the movie
NiGHTS ...~*+
>>507594934>Dimensional teleporter is how the sonic cast (accidentally) warps into the DBZ universe
>>507594519Usual execs trying not to make anything concrete for that sweet +0.00001% more profit.>>507594924It literally needs to have a category, though. It can't just be nothing.If they're not siblings, lovers or friends, wtf are they?
>>507594859https://youtu.be/1I71Huh6qhE?si=q0l3qaaXP-SlkUno
>>507593631>Spin-offs? They’d resurrect Sonic R as a proper 3D foot-racing title, bring back Sonic Riders, and even try a Sonic JRPG that doesn’t suck like Chronicles did. Sure id also like another Sonic fighting game>As for the brand itself, they think the franchise should be rebooted to clean up all the continuity chaos. They’d split Classic and Modern into separate universes, meaning no more awkward crossovers. There’s also talk of rebooting Sonic SatAM, but keeping it totally out of mainline canon. Remember the timeline split theory from when forces came out with the different dimension line? Id just make that canon so its a different timeline so Mania and Superstars wont matter for the modern timeline nor will modern games affect the classic timeline but characters like Fang and Mighty should be reintroduced to the modern timeline.I think only a really soft reboot is needed just take what works and throw out what doesnt work.Pariah is a jap purist who will rage at me for suggesting this but i think some 90s American/Western lore should be reintroduced. I see no reason why we cant call Sonics world mobious or have the freedom fighters introduced to the main canon.Try to streamline the Franchise and take what works from all corners of the world
>>507594946They choose to do longer stories.
>>507594158You have to go off model for this question because of all the sad noodle limbs.
>>507595069I like Shadurge, but Sonurge edges it out just a bit.
>>507594354None of them are good with plots. Evan's are low stakes nothingburgers and Ian's are just shit happening with no themes or underling narrative until it's randomly over. But both have one thing in common, they rely on characters acting retarded for their plots to work.
>>507594519Imagine paying for Twitter
https://fxtwitter.com/Parada_Paradise/status/1871950618400821423
>>507594859There has to be a better way to word some of this, but you're basically right. Sonic and Amy bond over things they like doing and prefer relaxing and adventure, and Shadow and Surge would bond over things they hate, and prefer to actively snuff out the things they despite rather than lounge about and "waste their time" like Sonic or Amy do.
>>507595069Sonurge is shit.
>>507595286Low stakes stories are fine, X and Boom did it well.They just do not know how to write comedy well and take these low stakes stories too seriously.
>Fang>Bean>Bark>TripTeam Hooligan. SoJ-approved.
>>507595121of course ppt teased the new jester monster as Santa NiGHTS can't catch a break from all these new jester characters
>>507595252A wrong choice. The editor should have noticed this by now and rectified it.
>>507594859
>>507595069I do not like Sonurge at all.
How would DBZ characters and Sonic characters interact though? Other than powerscaling fight bullshit
Amy dragging Shadow and Surge along for shopping
>>507594346Plummeting from the Giant Egg Robo while saying "later, hater", while Stone is shown to have survived.That shit never seemed like a farewell to me, that was a "we'll meet again".That said, I would have liked to see Stone and Shadow bonding over their lost Robotniks.
>>507595428Nta, but a proper comic should be able to achieve a balance between the long action packed story arcs, and the short low stakes slice of life stuff
>>507595185>wtf are they?They love each other. >b-but what kind of l-She fulfilled every role in his life, not just one. It is nebulous on purpose like a lot of Maekawa's work.>BUTShut up gaijin.>please I need to call it something because I am super autistic and everything needs to be rigidly defined even though doing that ruins the point of it aiiieee have mercy!!Just say friends then because they call each other that, even if there is more to it.
Anyone want to play Smash Bros. with me? No download required (aside from the parsec client)
>>507595465>Trip
>>507595185Maria is Shadow's niece.
>>507595393>SonmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMYOUDIDN'TLETMEFINIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPH
>>507595590Why is she covered in dirt?
>>507595514Knuckles barely has any canon interactions with Tails or Amy, despite being part of the Core 4. Just because you aren't told how certain characters would interact doesn't mean you can't piece it together yourself based on their personalities.
>>507594478That's a good voice for her. I've always heard Spinel from SU myself. The accent isn't really justifiable.
>>507595671Here is a video on all the characters.https://youtu.be/ZXMq0Vk81Rg
>>507595714no she isnt
>>507595465
Poor Surge... Stuck between her knight Shadow or the dashing evil rogue Sonic...
>>507595465So if this is anything like the Team Sonic + Amy dynamic, Bark is going to eventually be phased out and replaced with Trip?
>>507595671I will play with you the next time you ask (and brutalize you with my Samus).
>>507595546Easy
>>507595107Me too. I never expected them to reference it.
>>507595840Has this faggot offered a single good thing to this franchise?
>>507595851Sonadurge
>>507595671CORE 7
>>507595632Do you know the laws of logic?Do you know the law of excluded middle?It says you can't be neither X nor NOT X. It is logically impossible for them to not be anything. You're the autistic pseud here who does not understand basic logic.
>>507595501Oh nice I'm actually looking forward to it's full reveal I like jesters in general
Wonder how long it will take for a rollerskates Maria mod
>>507595868Yep
>>507595894>EAT MY DUST PICCOLO
VAULTED
>>507595851There is no Sonic.>>507595930>replacing amy with surge
>>507595918He gave Shadow an extended family
>>507595918No #knowingsmile
>>507595943>Do you know the law of excluded middle?>It is logically impossible for them to not be anything.>You're the autistic pseud hereProjection. I hope no one else is stupid enough to waste their time with you.
>>507595465My HEROES... and Trip.
>>507594354Evan is slightly better because she's more grounded. Ian will do huge shit that'll crumble under it's own weight
>>507596143's bitches.
>>507595465How did Fang convince her to come back?
>>507596172... and FANG, her biggest bitch and trophy...
>>507595943I am repeating what the creator of Shadow and Maria himself said. He wrote the story. Shut the fuck up thinking you know better than him, you and your cancerous mindset where everything needs to have some label are a plague.
>>507596235>Appeal to authority
>>507595245>I see no reason why we cant call Sonics world mobiousBecause it's called Earth and it literally is a fictional Earth with real world inspired locations, humans, towns, cities and isn't treated like a strange alien planet>or have the freedom fighters introduced to the main canonYou can but the series is about Sonic being a free spirited nomadic adventures traveling the world and preventing Eggman from taking over the world along the wayYou have to change what the Freedom Fighters are to make them fit since Eggman isn't the worlds global dictator and Sonic has no personal ties to them when he's just gonna roam the world and don't care about being a part of their team
>>507596085Horrible character. I am glad he was vaulted.
Has Ian talked about the movie yet? Is he even allowed to share his thoughts on it or has Sega caged his little thoughtprick for some corporate reason?
>>507595465>TripLet it go dude, she's Amy's shitty friend, not Fang's.
>>507593554We need more Sonic cartoons with unique art styles like this
>>507596113>Uses internet term he doesn't even understand like it's a yu-gi-oh card"Projection! I summon you!". Kek.>>507596235He is a soulless corpo who only says this shit so they can remain ambiguous and not piss off anyone, you stupid ass bootlicker. Do you think it's because he has some grand vision of these characters or something? You are irreparably mindless.
>>507596210>calls her the best mook he ever had>
>>507596316HE MADE SHADOW. HE MADE MARIA. HE WROTE THEIR STORY.
>>507596350About time ST accept his extended black arms lore. that would actually be kino to be in the games
Who is the Sonic equivalent of Feathers McGraw?
>>507596432Co wrote
>>507595465>Tangfag trying to worm his way into the Hooligans>>507596427Fang would never, and neither would Trip.
>>507596426Meanwhile japanese kino canon
>>507596350Sonic looks so sexy on Eggman's outfit. I understand the Baldy McNosehair now.
>>507593631His ideas are all very solid. The problem is Sega is too poor, too retarded and too autistic for this.For example they could easy have just let IDW be it's own canon, but for no other reason other than their autism, they choose to say it's canon.And yes, classic Sonic should be his own thing. Just like paper Mario or Megamall X
>>507596432And? JK Rowling wrote HP your point?
>>507596554No. He wrote SA2s story himself. He is the only writer.
>>507595943You know that really only makes sense if there are only two possible states right. We're going with>Shadow and Maria aren't family or lovers but some secret third thing that's kinda like both but also not really and also not just friendswhich honestly just sounds like he wants them to be kinda romantic but you clearly can't say that anymore so here we are
>>507596427Why would he say that? Bean and Bark are much more capable than she is.
>>507596075Amy was not in the initial post silly!
>>507596530Fang, probably.
>>507596617Because she's submissive and breedable.
>>507596617Because anon is projecting himself into the characters.
https://fxtwitter.com/RoisuHanah/status/1871845961041076516
>>507596601Uh, maybe it's "white" because she was going pale in fear? Ever thought about that?Now excuse me while I write (black) Hermoine getting made fun of for wanting to end house elf slave trade.
Everyone who says they know more than the person who created the character should be bullied relentlessly until they either fuck off and/or kill themselves. Penders tier mindsets like that should be stamped out the moment they appear.
>>507594172Pitch a silver plot for silver game
>>507596615So>Not family>Not lovers>Not friendsThere. Now, we have the contradiction of them acting like at least one of these things but not being them.
>>507596819They are all three at once. She was his everything. Is this really a hard concept for autistic people to get?
You know what they are?cute
Surge feeling Shadow's cock push well past into her throat
>>507594478Source?
>Shadow do you think Maria was hot? Would have sex with he->No, I only had sex with Gerald.
>Reddit hates Tang because it’s abusive>4chan loves Tang because it’s abusive???
>>507596908So>Yes family>Yes lovers>Yes friendsIncest?>Is this really a hard concept for autistic people to get?Refer back to the laws of logic, pseud.
>>507595994It's gonna look like a jester made of play dough apparently
>>507596980I can't believe that happened in the movie, or that they actually showed them having sex and Eggman approving it and clapping
>>507597000nobody thinks of tang other than 3 people on /sthg/ and twitter desu
>>507594946Is there anything that necessitates how many issues an Arc has to be? Why don't they just do what manga do and have longer arcs?
>>507596530Metal, probably.
>>507597009You think exactly like Ian Flynn and that's a bad thing btw
>>507597079I can't believe it was 100% Keanu's idea and not Carrey's.
Fang kneeling and begging Trip for forgiveness!!!
>>507597108>Literal namecallingWell, you're like Evan Stanley. All emotion and no logic.
>>507597085They are having longer arcs, that's the problem. Neither Ian nor Evan can write longer arcs because they run out of steam too quickly leading to boring middles and terrible endings.
If it:s shadria it:s autistic by default.Followed Shadouge... Actually every Shadow ship is awful.>B-Don't care cut your dick off.
>>507595245I think the Freedom Fighters can actually work VERY well in the ganes considering Sonic doesn't even have any real friends aside from Tails and Amy. Other characters like Shadow or vector are allies and acquaintances.And yeah, bring back the term Mobius ffs. It just works. Even now, most casuals think Sonic is from mobius.
>>507597210Its perfectly logical. You just have a low IQ.
>>507596980>Shadow carrying Gerald's eggletsThat's hot.
>>507597278Well, you're a big poopy head.Are you done now?
>>507596530Mimic/Duo
>>507597000>>507597083Based on comments and reviews I've seen, people wanted Fang and Trip to have a bond, of only Fang would treat her a little nicer.
>>507595514Kek remover when people thought surge would figure Shadow? Lmaoooo
Trip is going in Fang's cum jar
>>507597000>Reddit is cringe and 4chan is basedCorrect
>>507597434Post again but this time without having a stroke
>>507597270How did Sega fuck up a simple concept like a cartoon animal always living on Earth so hard? I don't think Sonic X abruptly deciding to have Sonic and friends come from another world helped. There's no fucking reason for Sega to have ever tried to make it ambiguous in the games in the modern day. It's such a stupid relic that will never die.
>>507596629Yes, but the hedgehog sandwich is hers.
>>507596343>Sonic being a free spirited nomadic adventures traveling the worldThat's gay. You're gay
>>507597387Trip helping Fang because she had a crush on him only to realise he’s a scumbag would’ve been neat.
>>507597242But Shadurge is good.
Fang stripping Trip naked.
I am submissive and breedable.
Trip removing Fang's silly hat
>>507597614That's literally the main point of Sonic as a series, action and adventure. If you somehow don't like this maybe you never really liked this franchise in the first place.
The issue with defining Shadow and Maria is that it excludes the multiple roles she plays in his life. For example if you define them only as siblings, you miss where they call each other friends and the clear romantic undertones throughout their interactions. If you define them only as friends, you miss where she is a bit like a surrogate mother/sister to him because he is an artificial project with no real family. >But that doesn't make sense to meeeeOkay, good thing you have no say in this franchise. It should be controlled by people able to understand simple concepts like this one.
>>507596934Cute art. Always live seeing Sonic characters in different styles
>>507597736B-BUT MUH LOGIC MUH CATEGORY I CAN'T HANDLE NUANCE AND COMPLEX RELATIONS IN MY CARTOONS REEEEEEEEE
Egg
>>507596934Yeah, Racist?
>>507597614Freedom fighter resistance shit and knothole will always be 100 times more homosexual.
>>507594710Wouldn't cutting the string be a bad thing?
>>507597736everything needs to be categorized because i am extremely autistic and cannot understand social interactions!
>>507597867>Asking Eggman where did he hide Sonic's quill
>>507597572>amy putting the hog in hedgehogThe green tenrec deserves her black and blue love bruises.
>>507596597>just let it be its own canonThat's a death sentence. Sega may be stupid, but saying all the products are canon was the smartest move they've made in years. It means their a subset of diehard fans who care about the canon will eat all the other products up. There were so many gamefags who shat on other early media not because they were bad, but just because they weren't canon to the games. (The movies are an exception, but there's at least a multiverse connection going by the recent DLC.)
So this current generation of Sonic is the worst selling era of the games in Japan since the SaturnEverything from 2017-2024 collectively has sold less than the previous generations
Maria? Couple? NoMaria? Shadow mom? Yes.Maria? Shadows tard wrangler? Yes.Maria? having sex with Shadow? No.Maria? having sex with Gerald? Yes.Shadow? Watching Gerald and Maria fuck in his cuck cage? ABSOLUTELY!
>>507597736Well said. Honestly Maria and Shadow gives off the sort of vibe that Frankenstein and his monster would if instead of abandoning him, he tried to actually care for him as a person and teach him what it means to truly live.The only issue with calling their relationship "Loving Creator and Confused Creation" is the fact that she's technically not his creator, but she definitely plays that role nonetheless.
>Tangfags getting uppity again
>>507597570Sega has themselves to blame to be fucking honest. Like I said, in Sonic X, they made Sonic from an alien planet and he was a forigen species on earth. When I was a kid I genuinely thought this was mobius, and I'm sure many other kids thought the same.And yes, what do they do next? They half assault introduce two worlds, get rid of the humans in forces and IDW, and then after all that, once again, they demand that Sonic be an alien in the paramount movies from totally-not-mobius, which will now make an entire new generation of kids confused about sonic's Homewood being mobiusThe mobius term will continue to exist and it's all their fault for being fucking retarded
Face it. Nobody cares about the freedom fighters anymore outside desperate furries and 40 something year olds. You guys are no better than classicfags trying to cling onto the past and morph the franchise into something it no longer wants to be.
>>507597270The problem with the Freedom Fighters is their fans and most of their fans are just Sallyfags. Have you heard about giving an inch?>And yeah, bring back the term Mobius ffs. It just works. Even now, most casuals think Sonic is from mobius.It's always been earth in the games. It's not changing. Get over it. It was never even called Mobius in the games outside of the manuals and cartoons/comics.
>>507597928her love is so powerful cutting it won't change anything
>>507597730What you wrote here is not the same was what you wrote there
>>507598104Sonic has only sold around 1.9 million in Japan 2.8 if you count the Olympic titles
Have you been naughty or nice this year, /sthg/?
>>507596798Artists can indeed misunderstand their own art. Alan Moore didn't understand Rorschach. When creators assume certain traits and actions are universally seen one way when reality says otherwise, they will fail to grasp their own characters fully. It stems from a lack of insight into the nuances of morality, nature, or logic. A lying, stealing, cheating artist who writes a lying, steeling, cheating protagonist as justified might be too hard-hearted and desensitized to recognize how their character is a creepy and vile person, and they'll be annoyed when people think the "fascist" antagonist is the good guy.I don't think this applies to Shadow, but for Sonic examples, Nakamura doesn't understand Silver and Ohshima doesn't understand Amy.
>>507597873>Maria, why does that scientist have dark skin? >Oh, Shadow...because they want her to be happy! You see, people with dark skin aren't very smart, but they are still human beings with good hearts. That's why you should treat them the way you would treat normal people, like me and grandpa!
Surge and Kit my dearest
Westernfags hate the games but are still demanding the games kowtow to them out of pure nostalgia. I do not care about Mobius or the Freedom Fighters. Go rewatch your shows and comics and stop bugging everyone else about it.
>>507598148I feel like the extreme stylistic differences between the familiar Sonic characters (Eggman included) and the human citizens of the world Sega themselves design and depict are what really fueled their own takes on the animal characters having separate origins from the humans. Likewise, in a live-action movie, Sonic is going to have to be an alien.
>>507598505/thread
>>507598303First off, that wasn't me. And second off:>You can but the series is about Sonic being a free spirited nomadic adventures traveling the world and preventing Eggman from taking over the world along the wayIs literally action and adventure, and what Sonic as always been about, so I don't know why you think that makes any difference.
>>507593631I would rebrand the Classic series into "Sonic The Hedgehog" since that is what all the mainline classic games were calledAnd Modern the only name you can give is either "Sonic Adventure" or "Sonic X"
I'm tired of retcons, I will not accept mobious.FF can exist again, I don:t care about them being reintroduced, kind a like Chaotix.
A doting familial friendship
>>507598148I actually kind of like the idea of Blobians being ayylmaos.
DB characters' reaction to Sonic going supersonic:>Goku: "Wow, he can go super saiyan too?!">Bejita: "Hmmph, that rat needs some gems to attain a power near ours? Wimp.">Krillin: "YABBA DABBA DOO"
>>507598350Maybe it is theoretically possible for a creator to misunderstand their creation, but it doesn't apply to any Sonic character. Especially not Shadow.
it's christmas, what are you doing here
>>507597882Knothole citizens was 100 times more straight than any other sonic media
>>507593631>>507598642Just call them both "Sonic the Hedgehog" and let the difference in direction speak for itself.
Reminder that this behavior you're exhibiting in this thread will NOT be tolerated in 2025 do you understand /sthg/
wtf I don't actually like the Sonic series, I hate action and adventure
>>507598690I do not want degenerate Sallyfags plaguing the fandom at an even larger scale and have Ian writing where he'll desperately try to sneak in Sonally with he excuse "that's what the fans want" (that was his response when asked about his references).
>>507598876It's 10pm and I'm fucking sick of other people
>>507598798Probably to late to retcon them to be ayys(don't give sega an inch)But I don't mind them being ayys.
>>507598910The fucking name "Knothole" alone gives more homosexual furry undertones than in any of the games or media. Have you lost your mind?
>>507598524I dont mind the mobians having a seperate origin from the humans. It's cool.>in a live action movie, Sonic is going to have to be an alienWhy does he exactly HAVE TO be an alien?
>>507598868What is your actual IQ if you take a fake IQ test online and think it's real?
>>507598642I'd just throw out the Classic designs entirely. If people want simple 2D games with simple plots where the characters don't talk and have pinball physics, then just make'em with the Advance style sprites.
>>507598826Yep, Yep, Super Sonic, Supah Bejita, Super Saiyan Goku all plowed 18 together.
>>507598915Modern games has never been called "Sonic The Hedgehog" just the classics
>>507594172
>>507599061You sound like you're jealous because you got an 89.
Why is sthg such a little about everything
>>507598798I like the idea too, the problem is Sega insists that in game canon, all Mobians are just natives of Earth with nothing unique or noteworthy about how they came to be into existence.
>>507598953Evan...
>>507599173Little what
>>507598868It definitely doesn't apply to Shadow, nobody understands him better than Maekawa. But it does apply to Silver and Amy. In no universe is Silver, as originally written, a cool or hopeful character. He's a nerd, a jerk, and an idiot. His nativity doesn't make him charming, it makes him obnoxious. His failure to recognize what Silver is is the reason why he's a failure of a character.
"Earth" has been literally namedropped in Shadow Gens yet you Westfags still want them to suddenly change it to Mobius? You fucks would bash the games for their inconsistencies, but that's suddenly okay when it panders to your nostalgia for ShitAM and Archie branded toilet paper. Unbelievable.
>>507599234I still belive blobians is an evolved branch of the Ancients who interracted with the Earth's animals just like Chao can do
Mobi-earth
>>507598174Sonic needs a core sidecast and friends. Not people like knuckles, shadow, chaotix, who are not his friends in the true definiton. The freedom fighters fit that role very well. Plus, I like their designs (not just sally)
Shadow's cum flowing out of Surge's nose
>>507599173It all started with a dolphin or a rally about squirrels idk I wasn't really paying attention
>>507599438>Sonic needs a core sidecast and friends.Yes, and they can design new characters for that.
>>507599414I think they should either take the Fleetway/Paramount approach where Earth and Mobius are two different worlds, or take the Archie route where Mobians are these weird evolved human-animal mutants. Both options work.Instead we get neither.
Merry Christmas /sthg/, have an old Christmas Shado I drew.
>>507598868>>507599260And Amy will never be a good counterpart to Sonic. She is an anti-foil, a character like her exists to show how Sonic is UN-like a Mickey Mouse type of character, while Ohshima believes she IS his ideal counterpart. This discrepancy between vision and reality (which most of Sega understood regardless of Ohshima) is why she will always be divisive and nebulous, no matter how much she's changed or retconned into another type of person.
>>507596810Have him follow an evil time traveler through out different time eras while helping these eras become peaceful to force the idea of time travel and hounding for blood and caring for justice. no, not nega. proper new villain
>>507598970It's really only the FARTchie fags I hate. FF on their own don:t bother me.It would be very funny if FF returned except sally.
oh my god.... Sonic only has 1 friend....
Trivia: Not even the most hardcore FFfags can explain what the Freedom Fighters can add to the games outside of "I just want them in!"
>>507599101Sega clearly wants Classic to be a seperate branch of the series even if you like it or notI do agree that shouldn't stop us from getting an Advance styled game
>>507599058He sticks out too much as a wacky new element in a world that's literally just our own. It's not like how Bugs Bunny is obviously a resident of a cartoon Earth.
>>507599257a little BITCH
>>507599541>they can design new characters for that.Why would they do that when the Freedom Fighters are already around and have always been established as Sonic's childhood friends in Satam and Archie?
>>507599173Because we're little nigga
>>507599260>nativitynaivety*
>>507599768Because these are the games and not SatAM and Archie?
>>507599647>And Amy will never be a good counterpart to Sonic. She is an anti-foil, a character like her exists to show how Sonic is UN-like a Mickey Mouse type of character, while Ohshima believes she IS his ideal counterpart.The latter is just better, I'm sorry.
>>507599634Thanks so glad he had great fearless year
>>507599881Amazing argument.
>>507599438>Sonic needs a core sidecast and friendsSonic's sidecast is whatever character he happens to run into on his travels, and his friends are everyone he meets that isn't an outright rival because he makes friends easily.The Freedom Fighters are not his friends or sidecast, they are a mission driven team of rebels/rescue workers that plot moves in their headquarters. They do not travel the world looking for fun and thrills, and insisting they're the perfect match for someone like Sonic would be like insisting GUN Commander should be Sonic's best friend.
>>507599932It isn't, it's inherently incongruent with how she's designed. You can call it better, but objectively, most people regard her as what her design and foundation communicates.
>>507598934No.
エミー!!!
>>507599864He's a native of the 4th dimension
>Shadurge
>Dragon Balls have the same wavelength as Chaos Emeralds>Dragon Radars can track down Chaos Emeralds and Sonic and Shadow can go super from dragon balls
>>507599853is that sherk
No.I won't just sit by and let all the cancerous facets of this franchise be allowed to have an equal footing. I'm not breaking bread with archiefags and SatAMcucks.The Japanese iterations of Sonic IN THE GAMES are the only ones worth discussing here. And I will continue to call out everything else.Mobius is not canonMobians are not canonRoboticization is not canonThe freedom fighters are not canonNone of the shit in American instruction manuals is canonThe US CD tracks are not canonSurge and Lanolin are not canonIDW in general is not canonThe movies are not canonSonally is fanfiction. That egregious character doesn't exist and never did. The only true ship for Sonic is sonamy and canonically Sonic and Amy are set to eventually get married together. No, sonic doesn't "fuck around" on his adventures. He just loves adventures and to run and be free. He is a virgin that will marry Amy.On that subject, Rouge is not a "slut". She's a virgin like the rest of the main cast. Stop projecting. Just because you went to a degenerate high school where sex outside of marriage was normal, doesn't mean these characters did.This is a Japanese franchise. It always has been and always will be. Everything else is fan fiction and belongs in /trash/. Period.It's high time we change the OP. We shouldn't allow "all things Sonic" because it has become obvious that degenerates are abusing that privilege. Games only. Canon only. No shipping outside sonamy, silvaze, knouge, and shadria.Change the OP. End of discussion. Games only. Period.
>>507600008GUN Commander would be his best friend, and Sonic would fall in love with him!
>>507599743They want it to be separate from Modern because people hate it bleeding over. The only reason Classic came back in the first place was because they listened to critic outcry instead of actually doing what they want. Classic returning is no different from when they tried retconning all humans other than Eggman.
>>507599751Ask yourself
>>507600051>most people regard her as what her design and foundation communicatesSonic's love interest the literal pink hedgehog?
>>507599751FUCK
>>507599986FURLESS year of Shadow
>>507600180Amyfags have been worse for the series than them.
>>507599414I like this theory.
>>507600115Shadow is fodder
>>507600008>Sonic's sidecast is whatever character he happens to run into on his travelsWhich somehow always ends up being tails and amy>wow,what a concidence running into you, Tails, in the middle of apotos for no discernable reason whatsoever>and his friends are everyone he meets that isn't an outright rival because he makes friends easily.lol no, that's not what the term friend means, you dumbass>The Freedom Fighters are not his friends or sidecastThey are. Go read the comics
>>507600329What is it now with you?
Fang was ALONE and SAD on Christmas Day.
Rape Honey.Tear away Honey's clothes.Make Honey cry for help.Beat up Honey.Knock out Honey's teeth.Break Honey's ribs.Impregnate rape Honey.
>>507600116>Crossover would be about eggman trying to snatch the dragon balls and use them to wish for eggmanland>Sonic gets all of them first and they immediately make him go Super>Goku goes Super too and makes Eggman piss himself in fear>The two defeat Eggman kino
>>507600180All true except >The US CD tracks are not canonA couple are in Sonic generations.
>>507599596I think them being related to the Ancients WOULD be cool but they also just be regular animal people that exist on a fictional fantasy Earth along with humans just like Dragon BallYou been sniffing Archie a lot I can tell
do archie/idwfags rlly?
>>507600227A pink, frilly, annoying little Sonic fangirl that cramps his style.
I want to marry Nine and see him smile and laugh for once in his life.
>>507599701Yeah, Knuckles.
>>507600524>No way fag
>>507598350This is just appeal to majority, though. There is no objectively correct way to interpret a character.
>>507600524Back then sure, but realizing it makes for a better dynamic if you have her be in love with adventure too and keeping up with him it's just a much nicer relationship.
>>507600180>The US CD tracks are not canonno please
>>507600578cutes...
>>507600513At this point we should just axe all comic shit.No more IDW slop. No more archieshit discussions, and fleetwayfags don't even exist. Games only.
What if there was a sonic shounen manga
>>507599634Cute Shado anon!
>>507600513tldr nigger-sama
>>507600825Cutes
>>507600330Only problem with this is that Sega only wants certain blobians to have Super, implying that the rest can't do it at all
>>507600180I will not be patient with you because you have autism.
>>507599438>Sonic needs a core sidecast and friendsI agree. An entire town of them was created when the first game was being developed and used for the manga. Since it has seniority it should be the one adapted into the game continuity.
>>507600802Nigga, the games SUCK.
>>507600596It's more an appeal to nature.
US Sonic CD is cooler
>>507600115>This happens after they run into each other while destroying one of Eggman's bases and Surge attacks him for thinking he's Sonic>They both realize they both actually fucking hate Sonic, and want Eggman dead by any means necessary>Shadow is unwilling to kill a powerful asset, and Surge likes him for not trying to convince her to follow some moral highground bullshit, so she and Kit help him wreak havoc>Surge meets Omega shortly after and thinks he's cool as fuck>Rouge lets Surge know about Shadow's fucking sadass life and past trauma and Surge starts catching feelings after she realizes how much they have in common
>>507600802Axe all modernshit while you can too.
>>507600180>having a melty on Christmaslmao
>>507600681Alright, then go watch Mickey & Minnie cartoons.
>>507600451Rapenic...
>>507600802when will this shitty compasny die?
Why is she beloved when human characters got so much shit? The last time someone insulted Maria he got shat on by the fanbase so hard he community noted.
>>507600524What's tails excuse?
>>507601073>which most of Sega understoodAnd it landed on Amy being hated. No one likes her if she's going to slow him down and he keeps pushing her away. Sorry, but this is the instant where the old vision just flat out doesn't work and marks a character doomed to fail, Ohshima has the better approach because people welcome their current dynamic way more.
i've already destroyed my christmas giftsonic characters for this feel?
Western franchise made by Japanese people who wanted a cool American inspired franchise instead of a stuffy corporate one like Mario was
Surge scratching Shadow's back urging him to go harder
>>507600423We just had an official Japanese post that said he was with Bean and Bark.
>>507600973Ehhh Sonic boom is definitely better than toot toot sonic warrior.
>>507600354Surge is a jobber
>>507601026Cute...cute and sad...
Why does it smell like baby powder and dirty diapers in here?
>>507601191surge is not canon
The entire IDW run in JapanIt’s been cancelled
>>507600217Hmmm I like being a little bitch in the bedroom sometimes
>>507601190>American inspired franchiseWrong, DBZ-inspired.
>>507600905Seniority shouldn't take precidence to actually developed/established character who have a comic series that had 450+ issues.
>>507601241*prrrffft* oops... I think that was me. Shadowbro btw.
>>507601174He's not anything like Amy.
I only play the games
>>507600423My HERO.
>>507601305>the zombot arc killed IDW in Japan
>>507600423And then Bean, Bark and Trip cheered him up!
>>507601305AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE TASKATE IAN SAMA
Shadow is better when he's smiling.
>>507601182knuckles, marine
>>507601453...And then he woke up.
>>507601305That's what happens when you don't make a Sonic manga
>>507601440Understandable really
>>507601336DBZ is just one of the main ingredients of the franchise. Sonic's design was inspired by western things like Santa claus, Felix the cat, Mickey mouse, MJ, and such.
>>507601178Amy is more hated and controversial now than ever before, and Amy becoming a played-straight Minnie Mouse forces Sonic to become a played-straight Mickey Mouse which ruins his whole identity. The original dynamic was great for Sonic as a series, the new one is terrible for it. Only Amyfags like you and Ian cannot understand this.
I just can't get into the classic gameplay. I try so many times but can't make it click for me. I assume it gets fun when you get good and are able to actually speed through the memorized level layouts, but I'm just kind of dumb and can't pull it off.
>>507599647Most people know sonic as a kid that hangs around a small midwestern town with his human parents. Amy won't even need to chase him
>>507601501:)
>>507601352Quality over quantity. Fartchie shit needs to stay dead and buried. Even if SEGA did adapt the characters, they would change them all to fit the needs of the company and just end up pissing SatAMtrannies off.
>>507601518... with Trip cuddling him in his bed!
>>507600374>Which somehow always ends up being tails and amy>Tails, the heroic and timid kid that idolizes Sonic and wants to help him out whenever he can, and loves traveling the world by his side.>Amy, an emotional girl that loves a life of thrill and excitement and believes Sonic is her destined true love.Both of these characters were designed to chase Sonic to the ends of the Earth, while also enjoying their time with him. They seem to always be by his side because they enjoy following him around and don't have anything better to do.A group like the Freedom Fighters might really enjoy Sonic as a person, but they aren't going to be joined at his hip and present 24/7 because they have other responsibilities that come first. It's like how Knuckles isn't supposed to be always by Sonic's side, since he has other things he holds higher than he does adventure.If you want to give Sonic a sidecast of friends that are always with him, make a group of thrillseeking adventurers instead of a paramilitary crew of search and rescue goons that have no reason to follow Sonic on his every Hawaiian vacation.
>>507601305IS this seriously the only IDW issues to be translated? they're not doing them anymore?
A lot of jp purist kidults are mad they’re getting replaced huh
>>507601663...Thought Fang as he jerked off to distract himself from his loneliness.
>>507601581Play it in 4:3.
>>507601548>Sonic's design was inspired by western things like Santa clausWait, what?
>>507601629Insta face lift
>>507601579But amy's original character w-was h-heccin sexist, CHUD!
>>507601629:)
>>507601518... next to Bean and Bark. Their shenanigans on Christmas Eve got fruity and not the kind Fang likes.
>>507601352Starting from scratch is a better idea than entertaining the clusterfuck that archie allowed
>>507601629Anyone else smile too every time they see this? Shado has a very contagious smile.
>>507601501Maria...
>>507601680 An 8 year old kid and 12 year old kid chasing a superfast hero around and somehow magically ending up on the same continent out of nowhere with NO explanation is absolute ass-tier writing that has happened multiple times in the gamesThe FF are a far better alternative to that shit
>>507601581>I just can't get into the classic gameplay.Then what's your preferred gameplay style then?
>>507601741Silveryumes look like that?Damn..
>>507601581Play it on a Sega Nomad. It only costs about half a grand.
>>507601741Cool shirt they have, I kinda like Silver.
>>507601629Shadow's arm holes!
>>507601581>Modernshitter discovers he actually has to use his brain instead of relying on soulless automation and boostshit.
>>507601579I honestly think this>>507600524 was only meant to be a one-off, because it makes sense to create a despicable dynamic like this where the protag hates the fangirl, but making this reoccurring wasn't going to work because you get this negative view of her character when she isn't supposed to have this image as a mainstay and part of the good cast and not antagonistic.>Amy is more hated and controversial now than ever beforeNo the fuck she isn't, certainly not hated. >The original dynamic was great for Sonic as a seriesNo, it wasn't, it worked if you only used her as a one-off.
>>507601969>theythat is very clearly a woman, back to bluesky
>>507601390>relentlessly chased sonic>childlike admiration >needs gadgets to defend himself
>>507601521Don't kid yourself. The west paid for season 3 of Sonic X because they wanted more while the original 2 seasons barely made a blip over there. The truth is Sonic is niche over there and is more known for the Olympics games. If we ever get a Sonic manga it will be because there is a strong demand from foreigners
>>507601581I like classic gameplay and thinks it's fun, I just don't get classicfags that treats it like the best thing on earth and hates the Adventure games over it
>>507601305>The Japanese read Ian's slop and had enough after only 7 issues.Nip Sonic fans are probably the sanest Sonic fans are the planet despite their smaller numbers.
Maekawa ships Shadow and Mario nowhttps://fxtwitter.com/mizuhano/status/1872055031685673021
>>507601741Looking good
>>507601812>Starting from scratch is a better ideanah
I need a sonic manga stat>>507602098Mamma mia!
>>507601116>her new models/art are very cute compared to how she looked before (IMPORTANT)>society has decided that shadow and thus humans in sonic are good again, also meaning that sincerity is back>relationship with shadow is juuust ambiguous enough that you can viably project anything onto it
>>507601581Just learn to control your speed. It's really not that hard.
>>507601305Ianbros.....tangletrannies.....westbabs.... we're DONE.
>>507601969>silvertard uses they for a singular personthis character is a failure in every regard
>>507602098Everyone loves Shadow and Mario
>>507602098What does Shadow see in Mario and vice versa?
>>507602085I do see where they're coming from. The modern gameplay was never a translation of the 2D gameplay they liked and it's pretty braindead in comparison, even if I personally still think it's fun. I really like Sonic's physics in SA1 for instance. Sure as shit isn't pinball, though.
>>507602098Maekawa is happy! The Shadmari nation grows.
>>507602074>>needs gadgets to defend himselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2myaQ6jQ_h4
>>507601883It makes sense for Tails and Amy to join Sonic at a skating rink for some fun every once and a while.Shouldn't the FF be in their base devising some plan to mobilize against Eggman? Don't they have people to be helping rebuild or something? It seems kind of stupid to have this hero origination wasting their time bumbling around with Sonic instead. Maybe the FF would work better as a supporting cast for a character like Shadow.
>>507602324The sound that plays when my dick pops out.
Ian is not an Amyfag, get that the fuck right. And I certainly understand her better than he could ever.
>>507602324It doesn't make sense for tails to be able to spinjump. Knuckles and Amy sure but not tails.
>>507593393https://x.com/ChannelSonamy/status/1871686510791029188Amy fans sure are something alright
>>507601883>The FF are a far better alternative to that shitA cup of horse manure is better than the Freedom Fighters.
>>507601723>no friends>no family>burned bridges with the only friends he had for money >ruined the best chance of having a girlfriend by trying to fucking murder herNo wonder he’s a bitter fag. He definitely spent Christmas alone and seething.
>>507602175>widescreenyou didn’t beat the game
>>507602483>And I certainly understand her better than he could ever.Tbh I think most people do.
>>507602642Exactly. I feel insulted that anon compared me to Ian like that.
>>507602074>relentlessly chased sonicTails follows Sonic to learn from his example and support him. Tails impresses Sonic.Amy follows Sonic to cling to him. Amy annoys Sonic.>childlike admirationTails admires Sonic as a role model. Amy wants Sonic to marry her.>needs gadgets to defend himselfNever been the case for Tails.>b-but they changed Amy into a female Tails clone!I don't care for retcons.
Amy is useless and beautiful
>>507602568So what's the problem? They're just shippers thinking they've won.
>>507602269It's more they can't enjoy those games for what they are just because they aren't just the classic games in 3D. I myself do want an accurate translation of 3D Sonic but I can still enjoy the Adventure games and it never bothers me that aren't Classic in 3D when i'm playing
>>507602568Thank god we're gonna avoid a tiny toons situation.
>>507602073Boo.
Surge collapsing on top of Shadow after riding him like a Black Bull
Fang locked up in the sungazer sex dungeon...
>>507602543
>>507601770Amy being a relentless thorn in Sonic's side that eventually grows in strength and emotional intelligence until she's one of Sonic's closest allies is a fantastic concept. SEGA fucked it up like they always do. I'm sick of the anti-amy faggots who refuse to critique in good faith and I'm sick of the amy cultists that are so militant, they refuse to admit anything went wrong
>>507602543It makes more sense for Tails to spin jump than Amy. It's a physical skill tied to strength and athleticism. Just because Amy can curl into a ball doesn't mean she should be able to spin attack.
>>507602774>>b-but they changed Amy into a female Tails clone!No, they didn't. Quit putting words that no one is saying.
>>507602774>Never been the case for Tails.Except in SA2, Sonic 06, Archie, IDW, Boom and the movies. Look at what he does in Forces when he thinks Sonic is dead and he doesn't have his mech.
>>507602543he's the one that taught Sonic how to do it fake fan!
>>507603072>Bad faith argument
>>507601883Tails and Amy can both find out where he is if they need to
>>507603072It's clear this anon only cares about Genesis days Sonic.
Fang all alone...
Petting Silver! Holding hands with Silver! Developing a relationship with Silver!
"I'm done." the Japanese announce after reading 7 out of 17 volumes and counting of IDW.
>>507603072>but look at these examples of character assassinationAre you retarded? Tails was always a strong and fast character. It's never been the case that he needed gadgets or anything.Conversely, Amy was always slow and weak. You only want Amy to be a female Tails clone because it makes it easier for you to ship them. Amyfags are shipfags. Shipfags are cancer.
>>507602974Tails isn't a hedgehog or an echidna. The whole reason why sonic uses a spinjump for an attack is because he is a hedgehog. That was the whole reason sega picked that animal. Heck even Ohshima picked a sungazer lizard for trip because they are able to roll into a ball as well.
>>507602568What's wrong with vidya characters being straight again? I told you, Sonamy is a conservative win.
>>507602098Doesn't SA2's writer shipping Shadow and Maria automatically mean their relationship is romantic?
>>507603270She's cool.
>>507602890>Amy being a relentless thorn in Sonic's side that eventually grows in strength and emotional intelligence until she's one of Sonic's closest allies is a fantastic concept.This. All that needed to be done is show Amy slowly training to keep up with her hero so that she could be less of a burden, keep up on adventures, and fight for the people she cares about. Her being less touchy and overwhelming over time is also a great display of her learning a bit of empathy toward Sonic, and choosing to embrace the things he wants instead of only thinking about herself.Sadly instead of doing this we instead got shit like Boom Amy, when all we needed was a cutesy girl that loves Sonic, runs fast, and could swing a big hammer.
>>507602568Sonic 4 will be the SonAmy movie
>>507603336>it's character assassination because I don't like itThat is literally the way Tails has been for almost 20 years. You're out of touch with the franchise.
Silver has a vagina now.
>>507603327Sonic is already a niche interest in Japan and something like translated Westoid comic books is probably always in a precarious position in the land of actually good comics.
>>507603227Trip’s tail will keep him cosy!
>>507603095That's the spindash, dumbass.
>>507603339Sonic is a specific hedgehog. Tails practices to be a like this specific hedgehog, so he can use his abilities. Not all hedgehogs should be able to spin attack, it's a Sonic thing exclusive to exceptional people like Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles.
>>507602974>to strength and athleticismWhich Amy has and should've always to match that tomboy that hates boredom but Sega is just incompetent in consistency.
>>507603270Silver is happy now
I lived nu-Amy when it was implied that years of chasing Sonic and learning to love living by his ideals had turned Amy into a hero! But then Superstars and Origins shat all over that and pretended she was always that way instead of growing.
>>507603515It's character assassination that's so bad Ian decided to have Tails say he's wildly inconsistent. Stop being retarded on purpose.
>>507603515So you are retarded. It's character assassination because it contradicts his original portrayals.>>507603612>which Amy hasAfter retcons that turn her into a female Tails clone for shipfags.
>>507603501The question is, will it surpass the Shadow movie?
>>507603537Wtf I love Silver now
>>507602974>Just because Amy can curl into a ball doesn't mean she should be able to spin attack.That's what the hammer is for
>>507603336>Amyfags are shipfags.To be fair, mine is the stance that I want video game characters allowed to be straight again, no localization downplaying on Peach's and Mario's bond, the west needs fucking sex again.
>>507603537
>>507601305More like the licensor being very late.https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Wise_PublishingSomething ain't right here.
Amy couldn’t even spin jump in the 2000s
*BEEP* *BEEP*Best ship coming through.
>>507593631The only 2 things I disagree with1st is that he wants only Classic to be the momentum pinball physics when that's what I want for Sonic regardless of Classic or Modern. It's Sega who are to incompetent to implement it2nd is that he wants for Modern Knuckles to abonden his Master Emerald duty just so he can found a new purpose. Knuckles being duty bound to one place is what makes him Knuckles and an interesting contrast to Sonic also his ties to the Master Emerald and all this ancient history around his island and his people. Knuckles is someone you have to write about or around his role, he's meant for his own solo stories and games build around his character
>>507603270Blowing Silver!
https://youtu.be/t_Qer_Dzvuk
Sonic accidentally knocked Amy up. The series is over now.
>>507603732Tactful team leader Amy who organizes the troops and finds Sonic's antics annoying was always bad. Nu-Amy should have always just been regular old loveable wannabe girlfriend Amy, but she's strong and fast now since she's been training to keep up.You aren't wrong about Superstars and Origins shitting this up though.
Holding hands with Silver!Kissing Silver!Marrying Silver!Having children with Silver!Sleeping next to Silver for seven years!Waking up to Silver!Being choked by Silver!Seeing my children's lifeless bodies behind Silver!"God told me to do it" says Silver!Silver!
These are who delivered your presents. Don't bother sending your complaints because Fang probably ruined your presents on purpose because he didn't like you.
>>507603757Scores are one thing, but box office-wise it ain’t doing too hot.
>>507604018What did he send to Trip?
>>507603732Yeah the implication that Amy was training off screen like in Sonic Battle and just gradually becoming faster every other game up to Heroes was actually cool, upgrading her to always be competent is less cool
>>507603743>After retcons that turn her into a female Tails clone Nobody calls her that, only you do. And again, it just makes for a more consistent character to match her being an action seeking fangirl.
>>507603783It was but her fags cried because they think she has some kind of hedgehog privilege.Lots of people, especially Amyfags, miss the point of Amy. The original portrayal of Amy highlighted that Sonic is exceptional because he's Sonic. Not because he's a hedgehog. Your normal every-day hedgehog like Amy should be no more physically impressive than the average Pocky or Ricky.
>>507603580>amy the hedgehog who's obsessed with sonic would never practice the spin attack until she can do it reliably
they seethe
>>507603732It just makes far more sense to have her already known these skills. It was stupid in the first place to make her ordinary and you know it's true.
Why can't Silverfags be cute? It's always rape or being chocked to death with you guys
>>507604068His bike repair fines written in coal.
Where the christmas art at
I like Tails and Amy, and I think they've both been treated pretty poorly as of recent.
Amy was just hungry in Battle. That explains her behavior in that game. You'd go crazy too if you were constantly working out on a empty stomach.
>>507603883I respect that and agree with you in regards to Mario and Peach, but Sonic isn't the series for romance and it shouldn't alter itself just to push a message, even one I agree with.
>>507603923Sonic Team was always incompetent.
>>507604243Probably because people already think and claim that Silver is sweet lad so its a contrast.
>>507604203Damn, this guy says Amy should be as weak as a squirrel outside my window.
I like Advanced Amy but I'm not a fan of how her hammer jump needs to be directly down + b. Maybe 2D Amy could be Advanced Amy but with 2 attack buttons. 1 for standard hammer on B and another for the jump with L or R or something
>>507604243Shitty character, Shitty fans.
>>507603732Classic shit could've been it's own universe but god forbid modern sonic has to stand on its own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtlObqX8tJ8
>>507604397>but Sonic isn't the series for romanceThen why have Amy there? it's just painful if you're going to deny her allowing to fuck here.
>>507604316No time for Christmas, only Sonic characterization.
So, did any of you Amyfags take it upon yourselves to make a chart to figure out what Peak Amy is?
>>507604435I feel like the double jump also works well for 2D Amy’s exclusive move. It’s a nice balance between Knuckles’ glide and climb and Tails’ flight.
>>507604421Yeah, she's a normal girl who needed saving. The contrast between Sonic and Amy was to highlight his incredible nature. That contrast no longer exists since Amy has been the recipient of a deluded and misguided idea of both a hedgehog privilege and a female privilege, so Sonic comes across as more mundane now.
>>507603923If Sonic Team had their way, tails and knuckles couldn't either
>>507604243Because (you) just posted it this >>507604006
>>507604470
>>507604243Silver is a Sisyphus level suffering character. He's meant to be miserable at all times outside of freak instances of him experiencing something beautiful that makes his eyes light up. People try to treat him like Tails when he's basically another flavor of Shadow. They need to fucking cool it with the rape though. It's tiresome.
>>507603537>Now
>>507604569>Then why have Amy there?Good point, get rid of her. Vault her. She never needed to appear again after CD, and her continued presence does nothing but diminish Sonic's identity and distract from his strength and cast.
>>507604585Movie Amy.
>>507604203>The original portrayal of Amy highlighted that Sonic is exceptional because he's Sonic. Not because he's a hedgehog. Your normal every-day hedgehog like Amy should be no more physically impressive than the average Pocky or RickyThis doesn't work if you have a vidya franchise and want to have good gameplay on your core cast. Sonic is already wanked enough by everyone around him saying how great he is.
>>507603743>for shipfagsIt was for people who hate being remotely challenged by a sonic game
>>507604676You wish
>>507604812AAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>507604203>characters are not allowed to change or grow Who would have thought that Amy beating Metal Sonic would have mindbroken anons like this?
>>507604868>This doesn't work if you have a vidya franchise and want to have good gameplay on your core cast.It does, since Amy never should have been playable.>Sonic is already wanked enough by everyone around him saying how great he is.Yeah, that's why the original CD portrayals were the best. That's why Amy's vulnerability was important. Show, don't tell.
>>507604630>so Sonic comes across as more mundane now.And Shadow + Silver didn't do that first? >>507604983Which is why I say the whole pitch worked as a one-off, have this despicable annoying character follow you around, save her, then be done, but Sonic Team kept using her, and you can only continue this negative approach for so long 'til players began to hate her personality and gameplay.
>>507604868gonna be mad at me for saying this but intentionally nerfed no ball hammer Sonic Advance Amy was a more interesting cast addition than her recent ones with the double jump
>>507604203Then Amy should've grown in strength to match Sonic while Metal stagnates because he already thinks he's the best
>>507604585All Amys are beautiful, precious treasures.
>>507604812This design looks so out of place fighting like this and especially out of place next to the main trio. You can really tell Classic Amy was designed to be a minor character and not a character to look at the whole game.
>>507604453I just think it's hard to treat Classic like it's own seperate universe when SA1 really just continues what Sonic 3K establised. And yes I know you can treat it like a branched timeline but neither Mania or Superstars feels like a solid continuation of what Sonic 3K did. Both SA1 and SA2 builds of the continuation series in a more meaningful and interesting way than Mania and Superstars ever did
>>507605215It's fine to think that, but it's not consistent to what she's supposed to be capable of as a thrill-seeker.
>>507605038They've removed Amy's arc and growth completely, and tried to remove the reason for her wanting to change and grow as well.
>>507605283It’s literally just Sonic The Hedgehog in a skirt.
So... what's for the climax of the next movie? They probably won't use Super Shadow again unless it actually brings Silver to the equation and we get the trio like in 06Think we may get Team Super Sonic for a Heroes inspired finale?
>>507605436They are so cool
>>507604585Amy with Gamma is peak Amy, but I like all of her, so, I'm not cut out for that, she's always been better than Sally, though.
>>507604537Amy, her boyfriend, flickie, tailsand sonic
>>507605428It "literally" isn't.
>>507605038>>507605263Every bit of """development""" that Sonic and Amy have received individually and in dynamic since the late 2000s has only weakened what made them special and served to water them down into generic, bland, overly sanitized, and legitimately soulless husks of who they used to be. There's no authenticity in their interactions anymore. There's no ghost of an impression of an inspired and unique mindset behind the character writing. It's just slop. Pure, unadulterated slop.>but some people on the Internet said-I don't care.>do you just hate character developm-Yes, I absolutely hate character development in this series with very few exceptions. These characters aren't designed to experience multi-game arcs. They're designed as cartoon characters, with unique and distinctive personalities that are interesting in a multitude of scenarios. If every time they """develop""" it means chucking away their unique core traits and idiosyncrac, removing dynamics and constraints, dimming what makes them the characters they actually are, and bring them closer to "normal generic expected character" versions of themselves, then it shouldn't happen. It goes against the main idea behind Sonic characters.
Fat the Sniper
>>507605038>>characters are not allowed to change or growmotobug should inexplicably show up and oneshot the entire cast while theyre in their highest superforms and anybody who doesnt love this masterstroke of writing and character development are robophobic chuds
>>507603983I love Shadow and Maria...
>>507605531Shadow comes back and Amy gets a Super form which the games will introduce before the movie's out.
>>507605531that sounds like the most logical. Super Sonic and Cuck Bubble Tails and Cuck Buble Knuckles VS Metal Madnessno way is KEKmy getting a super form when knuckles didnt even get one.
>>507604678
>>507605659Fang the powercuck
I wonder if there are any other Sonic communities that hate Amy being strong and capable or if it’s just this place full of angry anonymous boys.
>>507604804Fuck off. She should've kept chasing sonic down and get euphoria by the experiences like a coke friend
>>507605428Different colors, different quill shape, and I think a slightly different body shape. Pink, green, and orange look nauseating together.
>>507605659>This is Modern Fang
>>507605779I love all that stuff, just don't suppress her thirst. The west will fuck again.
>>507605603Autism on full, unapologetic display. Brave and stunning.
>>507605603>Yes, I absolutely hate character development in this seriesThen we are done. You hate characters growing and changing which is the crux of your issue with Amy.
>>507593393Just watched the new movie with my son. That Eggman shit in the final act was straight up horrendous. Who the fuck thought putting Shadow's story to the side for some Jim Carrey glazing was a good idea. They even undermine the sacrifice of Shadow with a lame joke at the end with the camp. What was wrong with the cast being melancolic like in SA2.
>>507605659He ATE Bark…
>>507605779The problem isn't her being strong, it's that they removed her arc and the idea of her growing to say she was just strong the whole time because Branding Mascots
>>507605659Fang ate Trip... no wonder Amy doesn't visit in modern.
>>507605945What does the little lad think? Is Papa ranting again
What did he say?
>>507605779From what I've seen on Twitter and Sonic Stadium they're fine with it.
>>507605791She's not worth all the hassle. She's an irrelevant distraction and a liability who attracts the most insufferable mentally ill fuckers in the world into the fandom.>>507605940>>507605943Concession accepted.
>>507605779Amy is strong because she likes living an exciting life and wants to experience it with Sonic, so she trained to be fast and strong and capable so that she wouldn't burden him or slow him down.You hate the idea of an underdog on a quest for self improvement, and would rather retcon her loving heart and girly crush she has for her hero out of the picture, just so you could make her a nagging superhero from the start.You don't like Amy, and should stop lying to yourself.
>>507605903Agreed. Make her strong and capable. Keep her cute and bubbly. Make her horny.
>>507606086He forgot the movie already
Amy was designed as a love interest Sonic didn't want yet Sonamy is popular. Interesting.
>>507605779>Only men hate Amy's character being ruinedIan Flynn is a misogynistic piece of shit who sees a woman's natural love for a boy as wrong. Everyone who wants Amy to be a strong capable girlboss is a sexist, because if you need a woman to act manly in order to like them you just hate women.
>>507604804>Good point, get rid of herToo late, she's a core member, best chance to have done that was in SA2 when they regulated her to an NPC, and not many liked her then. >and her continued presence does nothing but diminish Sonic's identityShe isn't the cause of the "mickyfication" of the franchise, and she's marketable. Let the girl love if we're at the point people want to see her and Sonic together now.
>>507605779It's not>should Amy be competent?it's >should Amy retroactively be always competent?Amy kinda sucking wasn't a bad thing and worked meta-narratively, and no one is complaining about the other females not sucking, it's a uniquely Amy discussion
>Amyfags getting uppity again
Merry Christmas.
If Amy is hot everyone will love her, problem solved.
>>507606092
>>507606121>who attracts the most insufferable mentally ill fuckers in the world into the fandom.Sallyfags?>>507606160Fuck me, you have it on point.
>>507605603What amy "actually is" would not be content with staying weak and would transform herself until she could stand at Sonic's side
>>507606191It's an endgame ship that requires Amy to grow as a person if she wants to grow closer to her hero. It's sweet outside of silly jokes that ruin it.
Sonic should not reciprocate the love.
>>507606272You’re right. It’s not fair that Amy is the only female who sucked. Cream should definitely stay at home because she’s a toddler.Blaze? She’s a princess, she can’t go adventuring. She needs to stay at home too.Rouge should definitely stay out of sight because her horrid female body may tempt men and she’ll end up raped.
>>507606348cute
>>507606191Because it's clear Ohshima has the best idea of how they should be. If Sonic kept hating her, then keep her back at CD.
>>507605709A fucking robot can't change or grow. What kind of argument is this?
>>507606191Sonic X helped create a lot of steam for that ship's fandom I imagine.
>>507606389>What amy "actually is" would not be content with staying weak and would transform herself until she could stand at Sonic's sideThat's the female Tails clone, sure. The original Amy accepted her venerability, which is obvious considering she came to Little Planet to meet her HERO, she literally didn't care about weak, she just wanted to glomp Sonic because he's her dreamy protector in her mind.
>>507605945/sthg/ posters have kids? I assumed everyone here were virgins in their early 20s or 40 year old coach potatoes.
>>507606594...So how new are you to Sonic in general? Because the robots in this series act more like people than the people do at times.
>>507605732>Cuck Bubble Tails and Cuck Buble KnucklesThere would be riots if they tried that shovelware bullshit in theaters
>>507605709I love GOATobug have it replace all modernshit
>>507606696I never lurk these threads
>>507606654A light pink rose. The meaning of this is:
>>507606594Robots are the only things in the sonic franchise that get consistent character development, I hate to break it to you but this is more coherent than all the Amy stuff in the thread
>>507606696The poster spewing Amy hate is doing it with her infant son in her arm.
>>507606794based. motobug solos all modernshit.
>>507606318All I see are valid points and you being afraid on how right they are, For the record, no Amyfag likes her being nurtured unlike Ian, and don't mind the changes of competence as long her core values are still intact, this is what Movie Amy should do right.
>>507606696My seven year old daughter was SCREAMING with joy when Amy finally appeared.
Surge's gaping pussy and ass leaking Shadow's viscous spunk
>>507606838I don't think she's ever coming back.
>>507606375Fang looks cool and is funny. Plus more antagonists besides Eggman.
>>507606696Not really hard to get laid if you're not a complete autist, if you're desperate date a fat girl lol
>>507606659Tails always had incredible potential due to his tails, and just needed to believe in himself and take that first step.Amy was weak from the start, but pressed on regardless, usually getting herself in trouble. She was always brave and outgoing, but needed to train and push herself to be able to fend for herself and keep up.They are similar, but their arcs aren't the same.
>>507606121Yeah of course. This was never about character development. You're just mad she's around at all.
robots>furries
>>507606904>and don't mind the changes of competence as long her core values are still intactComplete oxymoron, see >>507606659
>>507606696Half virgin, don't want any kids atm.>>507606594Yes they can.
>>507606901Forces Egg Pawn is Multiversal according to VSBW
>>507607170kek
>>507607136Yes, I see Amy being in love with Sonic here and bubbly, those are her core values, being weak isn't part of it.
>>507607095>This was never about cause. It was just about effect.Retard.
>Motobugs have been shown to be stronger than normal animals, and Knuckles jobs to normal animals, and Knuckles can punch the Emeralds out of Super Sonic, and Super Sonic's help is required to beat Solaris. Therefore motobug > Solaris. This is how powerscalers actually think btw.
>>507607310Nyos but this contradicts my CD...
>>507606318>sonicfags think they're intimidating
>>507607371Canon. Motobugs are the strongest.
>>507606375I like Fang being a simple gooner who just likes stoking his Ego and getting paid. He's the best parts about Waluigi and Wario stapled together and I love him.
>>507607441Whoever drew that had some serious fragile masculinity.
>>507607371Interesting…
>>507607278>being weak isn't part of itIt literally is.Amy accepted her vulnerability, so she wanted a hero to protect her.Amy accepted her slowness, so she used a car to race.Amy accepted her weakness, so she used a magic hammer to join in a tournament.Amy has incredible tenacity, for a weak and slow, weak, and vulnerable character. But since Amyfags are incapable of respecting and acknowledging that as important and she's been throughly ruined by people like Big Red Button and Ian Flynn, it's better to just get rid of her.
>>507607098They turned my guy into lame quickly dealt with metal fodder for Amy's reveal. Do we still have a chance for Neo Metal, bros?
>>507607441Jobnicbros...
>>507607403
>>507607371I do think Egg Pawns are probably comparable to Solaris by now, or at least a single incarnation of him. He was defeated by Sonic, Shadow and Silver all individually at different points in time. I don't think the Egg Pawn would win, but it could put up a fight.
>>507606659>The original Amy accepted her venerability,Headcanon.
>>507605709>>507606794>>507606901>>507607098>>507607170>badniks replaces the main castWill this save the franchise?
>>507607695No, the idea that she hated her vulnerability is the headcanon, and the retcon. The fact that she was seeking out her knight in shining armor proves she originally embraced it.
>>507607441She’s cute when she’s mad!
>>507601241
>>507607724Every other game series and company will fall into bankruptcy because people will only buy Badnik games.
Origins Amy is pretty fun but damn is she a little overpowered
I took my kid to see Sonic 3 and the entire time he was asking "where's Rouge?"
>>507607635wade whipple beats up neo metal and wade will wear its remains as armor in the amy series
>>507606191Amy was designed as an love interest for Sonic who would compliment his way of life. Sonic's disinterest comes from not wanting to be tied down in a relationship with someone. If she was meant to be someone Sonic didn't want, then she wouldn't share so many of the same interest as Sonic with both loving adventure, freedom, hating boredom and inspiring others. Amy is just more energetic and open about her feelings contrasting Sonic being more chill and hiding his most inner feelings with Amy just wanting Sonic to be more open about his inner feelings
>>507606659Venerability or vulnerability?
>>507607961
>>507608020Vulnerability.
>>507607970>he actually played Origins
>>507607371The scaling you'd get from this is Solaris=Motobug>random animal>Knuckles>Super Sonic>>507607268>being weak isn't part of itall of her appearances up to Sonic Heroes? are about that thoughbeing weak doesn't mean you can't be helpful or get stronger of course but saying that being the weakest cast member was not part of Amy's identity for a non-trivial amount of time is crazy talk
>>507608137Yup
>>507606171Damn...
>>507607098Why not both
>>507606659The original line was "destined encounter. " there was no indication she wanted to be helpless to him until she was forced to be
>>507607625>Amy accepted her vulnerability, so she wanted a hero to protect her.>Amy accepted her slowness, so she used a car to race.>Amy accepted her weakness, so she used a magic hammer to join in a tournament.It's not like these were written down on any bible to follow through, it was just incompetency, how is a thrill-seeker who wants to be by her hero's side going to work as a weakling?>But since Amyfags are incapable of respecting and acknowledging that as importantIt just doesn't fit if she's going to be actively adventuring out, you can't have her be a weak link forever, you get SA2 Amy chasing after the boys who leave her behind. >and Ian Flynn, Only thing Ian ruined was trying to retcon out her romantic attraction to Sonic.
>>507606389As his cumrag? That must be what peak Amy is.
>>507607818She was searching for her soulmate, not a savior. Sonic only saved her because she got in over her head and running into danger like a maniac. She wants to join Sonic on his travels and live an exciting life with the guy she loves.I get that you don't like how Amy is written, but there are better ways to criticize her character other than bending the truth to fit your argument.
When I have children, I will tell him or her that Ian Flynn ruined Sonic and only the Japanese parts are canon
>>507608192I wish she had a different sprite style in 3 to match Sonic's. I wish Knuckles got a different sprite style in 1/2/CD also.
>>507608014This is the best way to handle it, I love everything about a dynamic like this.
>>507608327>Ian Flynn hater>ever reproducinglol. lmao.
Maekawa sometimes visits my xitter and likes my reposts and it makes me nervous
EggSWAT
>>507608327You're ruining it more by spreading this fagshit.
>>507608327Ian is mediocre, but you will still never be Japanese.
>>507607970Cute hedgehog
Sonic, Shadow, Silver and Surge all taking turns fucking the shit out if Amy until they're finished with her and comeback the next day
>>507608007They will play a heckin' epic orchestral version of What I'm made Of for 20 seconds when Wade wins the big bowling tournament in the Shadow Spin-Off series and fans will clap like they never clapped before. Metal's head will be the bowling ball of course.
>>507605945Have you introduced your son to SA2?
>>507608292The manual only said "fated encounter"
>>507608327can you have children with me
>>507605270Not 06 Amy (physically)
>>507608014>hiding his most inner feelingsThis is something people mess up when talking about Sonic. He doesn't hide is inner feelings, he speaks his mind and doesn't shy away from anything, he simply doesn't care to talk about that kind of stuff and would rather do other things than babble and gossip about emotions and romance.Sonic doesn't want to be in a relationship with Amy, that isn't a lie. Sonic also doesn't want to tell Amy he doesn't like her, since that would also be a lie. Sonic simply wants Amy to stop being so pushy about things, and just let him do his thing and have fun how HE wants to, and if Amy wants to join him she's absolutely free to do so.
>>507608524I literally never post bit I'm followed by a few artist and content creators lol
Straight men into Sonadow...
I'm about to do my exam boys, wish me luck
Boy nipples
>>507608668Yeah. We played it the night before together.
>>507608623You're saying this as if they have another choice...
>>507607985Your kid is looking at Rouge porn during computer time.
I never noticed that Metal's head exploded from the impact of crashing into the wall. Kind of hardcore.
>>507608829Non-existent.
>>507608885yeah no shit so am I
>>507608202The art is the indication. She's not embarrassed, she's thrilled.
Merry christmas you filthy animals
>>507608836Based and boy nipples pilled
>>507608950>Yay! I get to be with Sonic!>He's gone now and I can't keep up...>I guess if I want to spend more time with Sonic I need to be able to keep up!
>>507608831Good luck Cal and Al bro.
>>507608913This is why Sonic always instantly stops when he reaches a wall.
>>507608192Do you have Sonic 2’s as well? May as well save the set.
>>507608747But does he love her and not want to act on it because he values freedom and her coming along with the ride more than just talking things out as you said?
>>507608929But why not
>>507608829Common believe it or not
>>507608950Why is she so cute
>>507609113remember that scrapped sonic 2 mechanic where you'd bump into walls
>>507609098>>I guess if I want to spend more time with Sonic I need to be able to keep up!Never happened, she got in a car instead.
>>507609217She’s so beautiful and precious!
>>507607625If amy accepted her vulnerability, she'd eventually lose contact with sonic entirely If amy accepted her slowness, she wouldn't be able to join his adventures If she accepted her weakness, why was she in the tournament at all?All the characters have been botched at some point. Being mad amy has become another character who's actually fun to play is retarded. But I'm supposed to believe you're not the mentally ill one.
>>507608831Good luck!
>>507609135
>>507608867Amy walking up to one of them putting a leash on them bringing them home and cuddling with them after hours of copious sex
>>507608831On Christmas Day?
>>507609335>I need to be able to keep up!>Gets in a car so that she can keep up.
>>507595084>>507593631???
>>507609439Thank you!
>>507608831Ok
Shadally sex
>>507609365>If amy accepted her vulnerability, she'd eventually lose contact with sonic entirelyBeing vulnerable caused Sonic to save her. She looks back fondly on the Little Planet adventure.>If amy accepted her slowness, she wouldn't be able to join his adventures She was slow in SA1, SA2, Heroes, and 06, but her perseverance gave her a presence.>If she accepted her weakness, why was she in the tournament at all?Because Sonic was there.>All the characters have been botched at some point.Especially nu-Amy.>Being mad amy has become another character who's actually fun to play is retarded.She never needed to be playable outside of spin-offs.
>>507609154Sonic is fine with Amy as a close friend as long as she isn't pushy about making Sonic do things he doesn't want to. He isn't the kind to bother making a relationship "official" and I have no idea if he wants to fuck her, so the most Sonic is going to do reciprocate her feelings is let her join him on adventures and maybe let her sneak a hug or two. Asking for anything more than that just doesn't work with who Sonic is as a person.
>>507609528He doesn't like a tranny or genderfluid, just overly cynical and bitter
boys
>>507609335Now you remember that Amy's Sonic R car was actually her second oneHer first one, used in both Sonic Drift 1 & 2, was SENTIENTShe had a talking, thinking car (named Breeze), that suddenly dissapeared one day
>>507608831Good luck
>>507609712>as long as Amy changes everything about herself Sonic will tolerate her presence because... Um... I guess she has to become an epic girlboss superhero?Shit character.
>>507609618Full picRight nowPost it
>>507609525In my country Christmas isn't as big as New Year
big oof
>>507608145The series should've died after sa2
I need more Shadow stages bros
>>507609197It makes no sense.
>>507609335Why couldn't this be her living car from Drift? Also, why does the series never acknowledge Amy had a living car?
>>507610049She was always just a gag character.
Do you ever consider others feeling before you ship you monster
>>507608747>>507609712If Sonic doesn't want to deal with Amy, he just runs away from her. Sonic never tells Amy no or how she should treat him, if so then post an example
>>507609837>Still energetic and exciting>Still kindhearted and empathetic>Still adventurous and thrillseeking>Doesn't try pushing Sonic into romance anymore and just joins him on his adventures insteadAre you doing this on purpose?
>>507609335Sonic Team incompetency for you.
>>507609837Amy becoming more confident and powerful Amy is cool. Sonic still not even entertaining a date or two with enthusiasm is cringe
My unpopular gaming opinion is that the 'the Hedgehog' is more important to branding than people think and that's why Shadow's first game did fine.
>>507610102Yeah, that's why I don't ship Sonurge.
Sally the Acorn
>>507610095I want to know more about Breeze's lore and I want to now. Make her the fifth playable character in the next classic game.
>>507607970>>507608192>>507609439Only one thing missing. Merry Christmas everybody.
>>507610195>>507610247>w-we scrubbed away all her flaws, changed everything that defined her, and made her an epic girlboss Mary Sue so she can always be with Sonic now!SHIT CHATACTER.
>>507610102Amy surprisingly wouldn't guilt someone like this
Amy the Hedgehog
>>507610102Of course I do, that's why I change their feelings and personalities to make them more compatible with each other hehe
>>507610247Sonic's idea of a fun date is a run through a cool looking cliffside. If this isn't your idea of a fun date then you aren't for Sonic.
Year of Amy coming soon
>>507610479God’s most powerful Tang shipper.
>>507608524Don't fuck this up, anon
>>507610516Amy's idea of a fun date is going to an amusement park (which Sonic hates), they were never meant to be compatible.
>>507609682>She never needed to be playable outside of spin-offs.Well, too bad, just sounds more like it's a bias when you condense everything you've been arguing into waah competent Amy to keep up with Sonic sucks became she should've ever have been playable!
I can't run, is it over for me and Sonic?
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE THE WAY IT WAS IN 1994 TO ACCOMMODATE ME! ME! THE TRUE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC OF SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!
>>507608623Someone read that A03 fic.
>ball-letis it over for me?
>>507610430Saying Amy should always be weak and powerless is like saying Tails should always be a crying coward. Both of them never get over their flaws, neither of them follow around Sonic on his travels.
>>507610713As long as you're human and/or a princess you're fine.
>>507610713You could get a quickie maybe
I'm a pretty princess
>>507610853Gotta cum fast
>>507610713He might spend a bit of time with you, but if you want anything more than that the best you can do is hope he happens to show up again someday.
Shadow the SEXhog
>>507610102This is why I can't deny Amy her love of Sonic by ripping him from her like Sally did in Archie.
>>507610952>t.
>>507610815>Saying Amy should always be weak and powerless is like saying Tails should always be a crying coward.Tails was never a crying coward. Amy was always weak and powerless. You must be very stupid to make such a comparison.
>>507610102Sarada isn't a typical love sick anime girl her goals come first
>>507610830Oh yeah doesn't all the one-off Sonic x Random Normal Human Girl stuff kinda prove he doesn't really care about your ability to physically keep up with him anywayElise doing something useful for discourse for once
Ok, I'll admit it, I self insert as Shadow to sex Sally and Surge.
>>507611078We know duofag
>>507611060Someone didn’t play Sonic The Hedgehog 2 for the Game Gear
>>507611076He says to Elise in no uncertain terms that he's leaving after he deals with Eggman.
>>507611078We know Movienic
>>507610830Sonic doesn't have a thing for princesses, they have a thing for him. He only non-canonically ever dated one.
>>507610734Amyfags are even worse than that, they want the entire identity of the series, the protagonist, and the cast dynamics to change radically just to accommodate a shit, unfitting character that they have an autistic fixation with. Amy is a dead end.
>>507611074Her goal of wanting dick, yeah
>>507610516That's the problem with Sonic: Not only is he almost entirely defined by cool through the lens of a boy rather than a teenager, but anyone wanting to be with him must scrub their own personality down to even likes and dislikes. God forbid the girl character is into romance and fashion while still keeping up with him
>>507611078I don't. I just think Surge and Sally would get along way better with Shadow then they ever would with Sonic, and I like imagining how Surge and Kit would interact with Team Dark. If I wanted to fuck Surge I'd just self insert as a human man.
This is what Black Doom gave to Gerald
>>507611176I played the Genesis version.
It's a Christmas miracle! Shadow just creampied my (mentally ill human female) pussy!
>>507611201Yeah because he goes wherever he wants and she's a princess who is logically tied down in one place. That doesn't have anything to do with physical ability though just responsibilities
>>507611238You're so difficult to be around.
>>507611403Krack?
>>507611074She in the middle of a dangerous mission and it's all she can think about GUILTY
>>507611238
>>507609335The car can't chase sonic through an s-tunner
>>507610102This is what Ian wants between Sonic and Sally while Amy watches.
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>>507611476Yes?
>>507611563>>507611563>>507611563
>>507611273Amy never had to change from the vulnerable and weak girly girl she used to be, she could have been an iconic NPC who's an outsider coming in. Too bad she was ruined and forced to become in Sonic's friend circle.
So /sthg/ are Dbz and Naruto fans? Are there any OP or Bleachfags here?
>>507611551Yeah, fuck Archie for bringing Amy into that existence, Sonic is hers now, and no other should rise to take him again.
Sonic makes me happy
>>507611465Your delusions are difficult to tolerate.
>>507609682>her perseverance gave her a presence >but god forbid she makes progress
>>507611608>Too bad she was ruined and forced to become in Sonic's friend circle.That was Sonic Adventure bring her to modern. We have what we have now, and I accept it because it's better for her as a core cast she's meant to be now in contrast to the one-off.
>>507611757I'm simply adapting to a better character since you've integrated her into the core cast.
>>507610430>can't have a conversation about a character without going nuclear What a shit fanbase
>>507611238Amy is one of the few characters who SHOULD appear constantly
>>507612654This
