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CLEAN IT UP

>Most Recent Patch Notes
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Old >>507740970
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POE2 GOOD
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poe2 sucks
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every class becomes monk eventually
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Is PoE II good for you?
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I am going to roll a summoner
And I am NOT going to use arsonists OR detonate dead OR SRs!!!!
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>five fucking days of noncstop ritual farming
>with the extra reroll passive
>with Precursors at every tower nearby,
>which I have to buy for retarded prices because they do not fucking drop. I can run one breach that happens to be in my maps and get 1 or 2 tablets every time, but I haven't seen a ritual tablet in at least 3 days
>and no Audience
>in five fucking days
>as someone whose primary source of money and xp in PoE1 was ritual every league
>I have not gotten a single thing I consider even remotely valuable in that time, let alone the Audience
>in five fucking days
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>>507770895
i can't wait for spectres. they are going to be so fucking broken.
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Uncomfortable truth: the (most likely) upcoming MF nerf will not make it easier for you to afford high end gear.

There are tons of people asking for MF nerfs, or a change of the economy in general, which is fine. But often it gets justified with many people being priced out of high value items, and expecting this to change, but it won't.

Prices of high end gear and chase items are, and always were, based around the performance of top tier blasters. The overall amount of raw drops doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter if high end players make 300ex per hour and you 30, or if they make 30 and you 3. The relation stay the same, and so will the relative prices.

So if you expect for prices to get better, temper your expectations.

That being said, they should absolutely find a better balance where MF and tablet stacking isn't mandatory to get to a satisfying level of currency drops.

510 comments
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>>507771065
>Implying they didnt' hold them back so they can be given the BFR treatment.
When you get them they'll cost 200 spirit a piece, will reduce your damage, their damage, and all other minions damage by 50%, and just in case you get any bright ideas, will only be able to auto attack.
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>tired of dd jank
>look for something to change to
>next best viable skill does 10% of dd's damage at high investment
>vs dd in mf gear
bald mage is really fucked if they nerf dd
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daily reminder that if you play poe on softcore, you are not playing the real game.

this general used to gatekeep you shitbirds but i see its nothing but softcore players here
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I need to stop coming here, I told myself I'm not going to play until the game is completed. It's going to feel like forever if I keep thinking about it.
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every single time an enemy has "explodes nearby corpses" I get 1 tapped from the 300 corpses on the floor
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>>507771191
>minions with pause
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>>507771191
>Infernalist
>12k ES pre-Grim Feast
You're playing pissbabycore
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>>507771191
>Exploiter
tick tock
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>>507771191
???? youre playing an autobattler
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I play hardcore
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>>507771524
bros...
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>>507771191
Based, pisscore babies have no response
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>>507771081
I don't care if prices stay the same after rarity gets nerfed. I expect them to mess around with things during EA. I just want it to happen so the game isn't fucked going into the future.
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What should I socket into these? I'm assuming there is a good soul core but I don't know all of them
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>>507771720
there's an IIR core
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>>507771720
Damn those a nice gloves
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I've died 22 times and counting to Silverfist.
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Sick mechanic dude
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>every white mob 1 taps me
I don't know what to do. my res is capped even.
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>>507772035
the hitbox on that one slam is fucking retarded
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>Monk gameplay be like
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>>507772035
>Silverfist
Is it me or does Quadrialls looks like apes?
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>>507770643
DOG SHIT OF EXILE 1
GOD SHIT OF EXILE 2
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>>507772256
the roll keeps instant killing me.
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>>507772035
The tip is you just run around him constantly up close, you can get him to spam his normal default swing if you do that
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>>507771287
>>507771314
>>507771364
>>507771432
i've played summoner to 100 in poe1, not my problem it is good. not that you would ever be able to get to my level no matter what you played, shitbird

also grim feast isn't good for the content i'm farming
>>507771681
they really don't. i take one look at how worthless everything on sc is and im glad i can do meaningful content and make money here on hc. sc players in this general would make more running and dying in the campaign for divine orbs to send down to themselves than they would actually playing on standard
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>>507771191
in this, the "hardcore" chump reveals what they really are
'i am so much better than people because my characters gets deleted on death!' he cries, as he plays the safest, whimpiest, limpest most boring dogshit possible to make sure he is never at risk and doesn't brick his character. to this creature, the game isn't for things like "fun" or even the expansive systems made for experimentation. it is to copypaste something with the lowest rate of failure and run around beating their chest and/or cock. "hardcore" means softcock
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>>507771081
More than likely they'd just reset the league. What's left to test with the current state of things?
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you wish you had my wealth
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The Maraketh will fall
BY MY HAND!!!
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>>507771191
based hc chad. started hc now that ive done everything in ssf. sc trade is literally a sand box mode/wage slave mode (if retard)
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Unironically if I don't get an Audience today I'm quitting
Fuck you Jonathan
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>>507772285
Anon... a quadrilla is a four-armed gorilla
A quad gorilla, if you will
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>>507772654
i wish people understood that picture.
it would drastically reduce the amount of crying in the game.
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>>507772285
>Is it me or does Quadrialls looks like apes?
WOW
CANT BELIEVE YOU WORKED THAT OUT
WAS IT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LITERALLY FUCKING APES? WHAT THE FUCK SON
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im gunna shit my pants right now
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>>507772285
best post ITT
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>>507770974
I saw Kripp get one like 5 minutes ago after tuning into his stream for less than that. Sounds like a skill issue desu.
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>>507773051
Kill yourself. Streamer luck is to keep faggots like you engaged in this dogshit game
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Sex with Servi
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>>507772905
chancies gambling?
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>>507772763
fellow hc chads should add me - bythorshoa

i dont mind helping out when i'm feeling generous
>>507772458
summoner is fun and is always the first thing i roll. play the real mode, clown
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>>507772035
Now I want to play battle brothers thanks alot retard
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>>507773123
Boy you are coming unhinged huh. Look man, if you're that angry farming for something in a game just take a break. Please, it's for your own mental health. You're coming undone at the seems, everyone can see it, it couldn't be more obvious, you're only hurting yourself, and you only have yourself to blame.

You'll never have the streamer client. Go outside for a bit or eat some pizza or something.
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>>507773265
Kill yourself retard
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>>507773265
Meet the dreamer
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>>507773159
.... what about Alva?
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Okay, people mention that the armor formula is complete trash / doesn't work right etc. In what way could it be fixed you think? From a fantasy and mechanic standpoint, how should armor work? In what way should it work that would vary it from evasion and energy shield?
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>>507773183
>summoner is fun and is always the first thing i roll.
>npcs play my game for me
i am sorry but you are effectively 1 degree of removal from having someone else play your game for you. it is the build equivalent of paying a slant to play for you. just how it is. also fucking boring
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>>507771191
>meta in hardcore
youre not playing hardcore unless you are playing off-meta
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>>507773307
No thanks. I'll log in later to my T5 maps and keep trying to get my build in order though. Or re-roll. Might do that until they fix blood mage. But I'm having fun, and that's more than I can say for you. If it ain't fun, stop.
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>>507773180
yes
ive profited -30 exalts from that pic
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PoE 2 Appreciation post.

Everyone is complaining. Everyone is saying the exact same thing over and over.

You FORGOT it's EA and not a complete game

You FORGOT they went on holiday.

You FORGOT that game development takes time.

You FORGOT that everyone has already posted about checks notes endgame, ascendancy, body blocking, map portals, or whatever your mind body blocks you into not being able to counter with the systems.

You also FORGOT that you are playing their creation, not yours. Let them cook!

Let's be positive, it is Christmas after all.

I got 90 hours out of an EA game and enjoyed every minute of it. I'm consumed with trophies and achievements and for this game to not have ANY and have me dump this much time into it, is quite a feat.

I say GOOD JOB GGG, if this is where early access started, we are in for the best arpg of all time.
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>>507773490
See >>507773307
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Sex with Alva.
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why do I want to beat up talkative tri whenever I see his face?
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Whats the zoomiest build?
Im tired of being a slow retard I just wanna zoom around for a bit
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sex with witch
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>>507771524
>I'm insecure about my league choice
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>>507773572
Temporalis blink
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>>507773532
i wanted to be critical but you posted anime so you are right
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>>507773341
Unironically just copy D4. A physical damage resistance that scales to 75% based of a flat value.
X is the value you need to hit for 75% phys reduction at max level, meaning that Y provides 75% phys reduction at your current level.
The goal is to always meet your armor goals on warrior and therefore always have 75% physical damage reduction.
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>>507773265
>at the seems
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>>507773532
i want to agree with you but you posted anime so you are wrong
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>>507771524
HC SSF sisters.... not like this...
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I think there should be a chaos resist charm.
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>>507772035
stay close to him and get behind him as much as you can
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>>507773739
Amethyst charm, it is dogshit
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>>507773739
there is
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>>507773712
i wanted to agree with you but your opinion is wrong so you are wrong
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Is Poison damage considered Chaos damage?
Like if I get increased Chaos damage somehow would that also buff the damage of any poisons I apply?
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>>507773341
They shouldn't fuck with it until you've got the spirit gems from duelist, templar and druid.
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Is it better to stack Evasion or ES if I'm a monk and need both dex and int?
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Seems not worth.
How rare are lv20 spirit gems?
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>>507773419
>>507773353
you couldn't make it to maps on hc if i gifted you an entire set of leveling gear, with any build. i'm not sure why you think a hc god would care what a softbaby thinks about anything.

also fuck yeah boys. 5 divine minimum for this spirit core
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>>507773878
yes
this also means that Contagion spreads it, and Dark Effigy fires on poisoned enemies (unfortunately not per stack)
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>>507773821
Okay I think they should drop me one.

>>507773878
Yeah
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>>507773983
ok
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i am playing self cast comet
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>>507774002
>>507774005
Thanks!
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What if armor provided a chance to block hits like how evasion dodges hits?
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glacial cicada seems like it fucking sucks assholes
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The fuck are you supposed do with ambush? It's not fun or fair.
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>>507773341
>Damage reduction applies to anything evasion applies to. fuck ranger favoritism
>Damage reduction is just a linear EHP multiplier, such that each X armor makes you take half damage. 2X armor takes 1/4 damage, etc.
>if it's too strong or too weak, just change what number X is.
wa la. Current armor has shit values and shit effect since it doesnt protect from any of the things that actually kill players (elements, chaos, one-taps). Once my idea is implemented, it will just have shit values because they hate armor. You can all thank me later.
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>>507774109
wouldn't it work better if you cast the comet at the bad guys instead of at urself?
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>>507771139
>will only be able to auto attack
They'll just give all their cool skills a 10 second cooldown
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Where is my Convocation, Jonatroon?
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>>507774206
it should provide a mix of percentage and flat damage reduction. like you get whatever % physical damage reduction and like 10% of your total armor in flat damage negation before multipliers.
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Hydras when
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>>507774206
because then it's literally just evasion. i want my stats to do something at least a little bit different than eachother.

>>507774595
why tho?
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Can you make slams faster? I swear rolling slam and leap slam dont benefit from attack speed. Do I need skill speed?
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>>507774695
based based b-based based
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What if you retards just build more than one layer instead of just armor and all of a sudden become immortal
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WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
>WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
>WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING

I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF I'M GONNA DO IT RIGHT NOW HOLY SHIT I'M SHITTING MYSELF LET ME OUT CUNT
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>>507774394
i assume they will update the formula so it matches armour in current poe1.
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>>507774695
Saar? Your Spell Totems? You must redeem totams?!
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For Gemling, is 14% Quality and +1 to all Skills better than getting 3 extra Skill Slots and being able to double up on Support Gems between them? I feel like there must be some secret tech to Doubling up on Support Gems that makes it worth attempting.
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>>507775057
Because if you’re building armor and ES you may as well just build ES.
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>>507774595
they just need to buff the numbers. i don’t think it’s that complicated
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>>507775307
If you were in a position to do that you'd already be doing it, but you aren't so make use of what you've got rather than gimping your tree by another 20 points to move zones and just go hybrid
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the chinese wish they were as fast as me
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>>507775057
>just build something other than armor, chuds
That's always the argument. but that argument is wrong. It's the something else that's good, not the armor.
Armor isn't even good as a hybrid. Anything with armor in it sucks compared to anything without armor in it. It sucks because the armor formula sucks and the armor coefficient in said formula also sucks.
You're better off just spending the same skill point/gear investment in a better mode of defense.
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>>507775474
Works on my machine. 2.4k ES and 70% predicted armor has been enough to survive any slam from any +5 difficult phys boss thus far
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>>507775395
pls explain this image
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>>507775620
chance orbs
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>>507775640
holy shit
is he---a he?
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>>507775193
There really aren't enough skills in the game to justify extra skill slots and if you're reaching for those extra skills you're not getting enough out of the skills you DO have.
The doubling up of support gems there's possibly a better argument for; the design of support gems and skills however is horrendous and you can ignore most of them except the the skills that do a bajillion damage and the supports that are "lol 40% more damage". Yeah having 40% more damage on more than one skill would be great - if it weren't for the fact that despite what jonathon would like to have you believe, this is a one button game. You will have other skills which exists only to set up for your main skill (if even that).
So similar deal; if you want to double up your 40% more damage gem onto another skill, you're doing something wrong.
The quality and +1 level is the opposite; you're taking the skill that's already performing well, and making it perform better.

I say this generally. Its always possible for there to be an exception to the rule where if you double up this very specific support gem you get some funky interaction but you can assume GGG will remove said interaction when they get back from the bahamas.
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I'm lvl 24, when should I replace this weapon? I got it when I was low lvl
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>>507775620
>chance orb sapphire ring
>dreams fragment sapphire ring sells for 75 divine
>1 chance orb costs 4-5 exalt
>1 ring costs 1 exalt
>6 exalt per attempt
>either hit polcirkeln for 1 div or df ring for 75 div
>???
>profit
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>>507775760
just use the ingame dps meter as a guide for if a new cbow is better
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>>507775146
In act 1 bro.
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>sick of dying in maps
>spend the last of my ex
>go from single digit res to capped cold and decent on the rest
>do some respeccing to focus my damage better
>attempt my first delirium at t4
>touch the silver thing
>get mobbed
>die
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>>507775610
I'm glad that your investment into something other than armor keeps you alive vs physical damage. you're not exactly beating the allegations here.
The other defenses are better than yours, and your mix is better than pure armor. because armor sucks.
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>>507775919
jus b urself
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>>507775760
I used my lower level (other unique cbow) until the end of act 1. It was probably a little too long but I'd only get a side grade without a very good roll so I waited a little longer.
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I've been messaging people for the last 2 days nonstop trying to buy jewels and have got literally zero replies. What the fuck is going on?
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>>507775919
Similar thing but it was kill the first pack and blow up to on-death.
That was like four days ago. I want to play but every time I boot up the game I just can't be fucked juicing a map knowing I'm probably going to get half way through and wander into another ondeath anyway
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>>507775886
alright
since it's a low lvl one, do I sell it or what do you do with these oranges?
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>>507776005
Evasion is just as dogshit on its own
>NOOOOO ACROBATICS SOMETIMES LETS YOU LIVE SOMETIMES KINDA
If you spend the same amount of points Acrobatics builds have to spent to get enough evasion to reduce their chance to survive a crit 60% of the time, your mixed armor and ES would be surviving it more.

Stop being a whiny little faggot with 400 deaths in tier 4 maps and sack up you retarded nigger. Go play PoE1, learn how layers work. Then come to play PoE2 and emulate that rather than being a prolapsed prostate shitlord crying they can't build a single layer and survive every time of damage
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>>507776302
>Go play PoE1
Why would I play a shit game when I have a perfectly good one right in front of me?
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>>507776438
Then go Cloak of Flames you abominable fleshlight
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What's the most fun, non-meta character you've played so far? For me it was doing a cold-snap frostbolt stormweaver. Not a "one-button" build by any means but I personally prefer that.
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>>507776479
>abominable fleshlight
call me this too pls
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>>507776523
Poison Pathfinder, it was fucking rough but I love watching my dots spread and my totem turn into a machine gun
I haven't played her since the pconc buffs and I should because I've got a friend playing it and it looks like exactly what I wanted
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>>507776523
is lightning cbows meta? im having a pretty good time with it on my witchhunter
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>>507776523
Mace Monk
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>>507776523
armor stacking war on hardcore was fun until i died to random 1shot shotgun mechanic.
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>>507776592
Poison Pathfinder was one of the first builds I tried back in PoE 1. I should go back to it in 2 even if it's not the most powerful. Love me poisons.
>>507776631
I gotta get a Merc run going. Love that guy's voice.
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>>507775919
Farm T1-3 maps for 50 hours and then buy yourselves 1 piece of real gear bro.

Tbh, its not hard to just slam decent looking pieces and get something going. The fact that you're dying to <t10s can be solved with some passive tree adjusting.
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>>507776302
No, EV is not just as dogshit on its own. EV on its own is significantly less dogshit, because you survive big hits 90% of the time instead of 0% of the time and it works on more of the dangerous damage instances because it's not limited to physical.
plus ascendancies like protect me from harm or tailwinds bullshit remove the only weakness of EV, making pure EV really damn good actually.
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>>507776854
I haven't found anything better than this for under a div
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>>507776531
There's faggots in my poe2 thread?
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My rolling slam aftershocks ARE NOT DOING DAMAGE.
Is this shit a bug or what?
Its just a cosmetic aftershock that does nothing
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Why isn't kino league in the game??
https://youtu.be/VuLbAnbMgH4
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>>507776886
A whole lot of whining for a faggot too afraid to buy one piece of hybrid gear and spend 6 points to do what evasion builds need to invest 20 points and ascendancies to pull off.
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Why are 800 wojaks and pepes allowed to be posted a day, all of which are complaining about the game, but anime pictures are not allowed. On an anime website. In a general for people who like a game. Why would moderation defend people who hate a game in a general for people who like a game who also hate the website theyre on and don't belong here? No wonder everything is so bad.
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>>507776935
um what answer do i give that gets me called names like that
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>>507776005
>cat'ain crunch
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>search for extremely specific ring on trade site that has 6 lines I need
>only 1 exists
>go to whisper the seller
>it's me
I'm so retarded
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>>507777095
frog general
frog website
poe2 kino
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>>507776886
oh, and despite having a better effect and faster scaling formula, they put bigger EV numbers on gear than armor.
You didn't even mention ES so I guess you already know that's also better than armor.
so stop acting like it's not bad. armor is bad by every metric.
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>>507777190
It's about to be a gore spamming website if it happens again.
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>>507776976
it is, though. viper legions out when you beat her in act 3
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>>507777095
>check this and last thread
>only deleted post is >>507765704 which was just a dude pressing enter on accident
what?
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>>507777095
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>>507777320
Thread before that
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>>507777365
None in that thread either
There are 5 deleted ones in the one before it >>507685630 and they're just wojak spam
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>>507777095
Mods are retarded ex-SA goons and redditors, this isn't 4chan any more
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>>507777463
bwos...
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>Leveling an Infernalist
>Trial of Chaos
>Have enough damage to do it
>Keep getting suicidal mod combos or just get chain-frozen by the stupid ass chimera even when I am on a different elevation from it
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>>507777095
>On an anime website.
it's not an anime website.
i would rather doomtroons bitch and moan about BFR than every other post getting deleted.
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>>507777497
Bro, I literally just work and got a "warning" for "avatar fagging" for a post I made like 8 hours ago and my images deleted. Shit like this is only going to encourage the schizo faggot who sits here and complains all day while spamming reddit frogs. Concern trolling gets pushed in, game discussion gets pushed out. Any way you can bend the rules to make everything shittier.
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>>507776886
evasion isnt inherently better than armor, infact by design it will inevitably get you killed where armor will save you
evasion is currently stronger than armor because it has better support through acrobatics and the invoker passive essentially giving evasion characters a secondary layer of defense for just stacking evasion
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>Trials of suggma level 4
>evasion/es monke
>afflictions are always no evasion or some stupid shit
fuKC U
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I still can't believe they didn't put swords in the game at launch. Insane decision.
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are we gonna have a new MTX sale soon or what, im sad i didnt get wings last time
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>>507777767
>work
*woke
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>>507777767
>>507777894
>ESL tr/a/nny
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>>507777698
>i would rather doomtroons bitch and moan about BFR than every other post getting deleted.
If it's a faggot blizz janny from /d4g/ making half the posts in the general I wouldn't
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>>507777767
Link the post then man, not to schizopost you or anything but I haven't seen the avatarfagging rule enforced in years so I'm curious
Also you should remember that most warnings mean absolutely fuck all and are just a janny seeing something he doesn't like but knowing the mods would never approve a ban request, so if it keeps happening then you should bitch about it on the feedback page
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>>507777463
>deleted
Whatever happened there.
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>>507777830
Good news, the game hasn't launched yet.
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>start a mage
>hate the playstyle
>start a witch
>hate a playstyle
>completely fine with bows though
Maybe magic just isn't for me.
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>>507777156
Go back to the ff14 thread.
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>>507777095
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>>507777095
what did i miss
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>>507778318
Early Magic is fucked up.
Flame Wall and Spark or Bonestorm are the only good spells for a while.
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>want to make a Blood Mage boner build, only bone spells, physical dmg only
>it's been going fine, Bonestorm deletes bosses and is merely ok for clearing packs with Chain
>try out Detonate Dead
>it's just so so much better
I'm fucking sold, this shit's insane. Gonna blow skellingtons all day.
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>>507775640
I actually had a dream last night where I found an image with his dick out and I did that basedface and cheered "LOOK GUYS, I FOUND THE DICK" as I posted it.
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>>507778468
Can you put brutal on DD to boost the phys damage?
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>>507778352
>mmoslop
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>>507777792
mmmm... if they just made armor much, much stronger vs large hits it would be fine. Then you could walk around with resist caps and phys damage reduction and feel good. I'll agree that armor's effect (reducing phys damage) isnt fundamentally worse than EV, but with its current stats it's definitely worse.
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if i keep blanking maps i'm going to kill myself
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>0.1 flask charge per second means every second, you have a 10% chance to gain 1 charge
>someone tested this and if your luck is shit it can take 200 seconds to gain a single use of a flask
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>>507778195
jannies love tranime
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>>507778189
>Link the post then man, not to schizopost you or anything but I haven't seen the avatarfagging rule enforced in years so I'm curious
It was some post where is said breach prints 20 exalts an hour, last general or the one before it. Since it was a warning when I got back it doesn't show anymore since looking at it clears it from my cookies.
>Also you should remember that most warnings mean absolutely fuck
So do bans lol but I don't want to deal with a passive aggressive tranny janny trying to ban me 10 hours after a thread goes past bump limit again like I'm on /v/ or some other shitty discord colony
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it's so nice smacking a full flicker while i have bell up and knowing there will be absolutely nothing alive when it ends
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Armor gear can have Strength on it. You can have upwards of 300 more Life on an armor character just by virtue of having Strength on your gear. This is in addition to Strength being the attribute requirement for your gear, meaning you'll often have an additional 2-300 Life from that. It's not remotely strange for a pure armor character to have 20-30% more Life than a pure evasion character.
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>>507778535
I don't know really. It does have the physical tag so it should work and it's probably really good as well but I've yet to try it.
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>>507778740
grow up faggot
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>>507778721
lmao
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>>507777767
yeah i hate shit like this jannies dont even know they are being used either
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>>507778721
That sounds bad but if you gain 0.1 charges per second and your flask costs 10 charges to use, that's already 100 seconds. Charges per second just aren't that good.
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>>507777095
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>>507778837
Why have jannies if they can't do their job? I could be talking about the game but now I'm talking about this. You have the same faggots post the same whiny troll posts on this general every single day with reddit frogs and not a peep. Because it's about favoritism and culture wars, not enforcing the rules.
>I don't like this general so I'll allow people to shit it up and shit things up myself
It's like that here. That's why they do it for free.
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#fartingouthiscum
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>if you charge into enemies that push you even a little you stop moving
this sucks
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yeah i dunno what i'm doing, i played all night tonight farming t12-t14 maps, juiced with breach the best i could, with 120 MF on my character and i saw one divine the whole night, and probably just barely broke even on raw exalts. i'm the type that likes to sit down and farm consistent stuff like stacked decks, harvest juice, and t17 maps but it feels like there's nothing like that here. so every rare you kill that doesn't drop a divine is actually a waste of time. i'm still 120 splinters off trying the breach boss for the first time too even though i'll probably just die to him anyways
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>bitches about game discourse getting pushed out while pushing out game discourse by bitching about imaginary jannies
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>>507778548
the weakness of evasion is that its all or nothing
the weakness of armor is that its almost all or almost nothing
if armor didnt have that weakness it would just be better than evasion at all times, youre supposed to work around armors weakness by lowering incoming damage before armor interacts with it, there just isnt enough support in the game yet to do that so its currently worse than evasion
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mfw poe2 is actually worse than d4
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>>507779147
>dodge roll
>jumped by wolves
>fly to the edge of the screen, to the farthest map wall
Nothin' personnel
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d4........ good?
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>>507779220
>stop noticing, I have to jump on a grenade for this janny
>not a janny tho, trust me :DDDDDDD
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Is there any way to UNDO clicking a quest item that gives you a permanent buff? In act 1 cruel I accidently clicked the quest item that gives you a permanent 8% max life for killing candlemass without thinking and I'm playing a demon form witch. So basically bricked my character if I can't undo it
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add a one time payed permanent transmog system in poe2
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>>507779290
very very fringe opinion because very very cringe opinion
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>>507779147
>pop a delirium smoke
>enemies surround you and push you into another room before they are even targetable
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Reading this general makes me feel like I'm in groundhogs day.
I'm going to wake up tomorrow to find the new day's thread has the same rehashed armor argument, the same copypastas and images. The same anime avatarfag getting a warning, the same guy saying something really terse about his ass or cum and getting 0 responses. Next we will all discuss magic find for an hour and the thread will get archived for the next loop.
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bros i'm this is all i got from my last map and it feels so bad. this game is garbage. mf cocksuckers are ruining the game
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Hi
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I'm getting more exalteds than waystones
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>>507779589
post bp
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>>507779589
Mods ban he
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If I leave my Hideout will it brick my map portals?
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>>507779589
ummm wtf???
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>>507779589
hi :3
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>>507779703
only if you are gone for 15 minutes
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>>507779619
Waystones are worth 3 exalts so that would make sense.
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>>507779806
oh so it follows the same rules as town portals, thank you
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>>507779589
Hello poe2 bad.
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>>507779884
Exalts are worth 3000 gold?
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>>507771191
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What is a PoE 1 league that you either missed or maybe it just missed the mark for you at the time, that you'd like to see brought back and redesigned/improved?
Personally was never a fan of heist, but I think a Heist v2 might be something they can make more enjoyable.
I didn't really play much Legion and I think it could be something worth putting in also.
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I still agree that maps don't feel good because of the whole 1 death thing
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>>507779589
hi
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name one thing you dislike about poe2's endgame but you expect it to be changed by GGG asap
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>>507779980
I don't know, I have like 30 million gold and have not once vendored anything. It's a worthless currency that should not be in the game that does nothing to prevent currency exchange price fixing. I have no idea why gold exists.
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>>507780082
AHHHHHHHHH NOT HERE NOT HERE NOT HERE
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>>507780049
I thought Heist was kinda hype
I always liked the ones that didn't fuck up the flow of the campaign too much, and I did NOT like Delve sending me to the fucktown mines every few maps
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>>507773532
You can tell this Redditor has never played PoE1 before if he's so delusional about GGG's ability to fix game issues and add QoL stuff.
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>>507780086
Magic find is unironically the only thing I dislike about poe2s endgame, if that was gone it would literally be perfect. That shit has got to stop ASAP. If they want a third degree of power scaling so bad they need to stop being lazy, MF is not the answer.
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>die once going through matlan waterways
>every enemy respawns with modifiers
>literally can't get trough at all now
fuck off
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Where are my Ritual tablets
Where are my Audiences
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Best farm spots throughout the campaign for farming in ssf?
I'm currently doing the two rares & rare chest spawn outside the city in a3, there's gotta be something better though
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>>507780523
>farming in the campaign
Time to stop "playing" ssf
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>>507777182
it happens, very rarely but it does happen. It's hard keeping track of the oddities you think might be useful in your stash sometimes
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>>507780523
Act 2 blood dude when opening the gates for the caravan is a really good one it has a checkpoint right next to it however consume its corpse then restart at checkpoint
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>>507780354
ctrl+click the entrance and make a new instance
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>farmed all day with 280% rarity
>only 2 divines 40ex
?
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>>507780523
maps
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>>507780778
Gotta do breach
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I play 100% HC and even I'm not so big a retard that I farm in the fucking campaign for nothing kek
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>>507780821
been doing it, i did take about 2 hours to try and farm chaos trials but it doenst seem worth it, getting the rarity soul core seems to inconsistent
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>>507780973
No literally just clear around the map and drop a breach tablet when only good maps are left and run those, that's it
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im getting bored with my blood witch should i change classes? im lvl 90 rn, im tired of spamming bonestorm
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>>507781228
go minion build
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>>507781301
This, witch minions are fun as fuck
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>>507781301
honestly i switched builds last night and i cost me like 15 divines and the build fucking sucked, (hexblast crit, i couldnt get 100% of the gear) so now im broke and back to my old build so im hesitant to switch again
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>>507781072
are there actually any other games where there's a monk class that for some retarded reason spawns giant ass bells or is GGG so uninspired they really had to rip off d3
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I shall dethrone you, Sekhema...
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>>507781420
yea that shit was pretty surprising to me as well, the fuck where they thinking...could have at least done some Buddha stuff
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Why don't skeleton warriors have a shield charge?
Why aren't active skills instant cast?
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>>507781365
fag
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It's that time of the day where I finished all the areas around my towers with nothing to show for it and now I have to buy another 80 exalts of Ritual tables to get nothing out of them
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>>507781506
I SHALL DEEPTHROAT YOU, ZUCKMA
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>>507781672
Yes anon I'm a huge fag who loves cocks and slurping semen and I loooooove playing minions on witch, now what
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>>507781780
BY MY COCK! !!
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>>507781393
>play ssf
>want to switch builds
>all i pay is gold to respec and find blue equipment to wear until i get better items
man, i love ssf
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>>507781801
Don't pretend you actually get any dick you worthless sped
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poe 2 good
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>>507770805
I was just gonna try some of those quarterstaff skills as a boss swap and now...
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>>507781801
tad queer
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>>507781865
>resists are fucked because you're in blues
>have to drop down maps
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>>507780064
>Jonathan brings back 6 tries per map
>BUT you have to retrieve your corpse when you die
>you lose all your shit if you run out of portals
and no, logging out and logging back in won't spawn your corpse in your hideout
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>>507775640
who is this? he is heaps hot
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>>507781989
i dont mind. it just means more content for me to do.
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>>507773878
I think that depends whether you're applying with phys or chaos. The damage of the hit is what matters.
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so how will they fix the economy? will they remove rarity and launch a new league with a new act?
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>>507782136
>build diversity
git gud
>endgame bad
git gud
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>>507774695
Why do hydras feel so much cooler and less gay than totems?
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you enjoy the game more if you dont read this place
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>>507782217
they're not "fixing" anything until the real release, and when they do it will be some basic bitch +1 range +10% dmg tweaking on skills and they will say they're happy with where most of the things are
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>>507782136
based janny
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>>507781072
this brings back memories. RoS was fucking great. If only they allow offline play and let you choose an old patch you want to play, before all the powercreep set in.
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>unequipped weapon with +20 str
>can't re-equip it
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>>507782262
Because hydras are conjuring and controlling a mystic creature, totems are foreign culture + magic.
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>>507777095
They're allowed. It's not like you get banned. It's just that frogs are better and that this is a frog website.
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>>507782280
I suspected this might be the case. Perhaps I will leave.
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>>507782262
>summon a living flame in the shape of a beast that spits exploding fireballs
vs.
>place a fucking dildo

>>507782347
weird how retarded game devs can't just make it so if the item gives you +attr that would satisfy the attr requirement for such item, you would be able to equip the item anyway, are there any arpgs that even do that?
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>>507778779
Meanwhile my ES character has 5x as much lul
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>>507782262
wtf are hydras
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The economy is beyond fucked and as an SSF player I just like watching shit burn. I want to see what they're going to do so I can laugh some more.
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>>507782575
>buys better gear than you could get in 100 hours for 5ex
oh no, the economy's fucked, if only I went ssf...
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>>507782575
absolutely nothing, only retards complain about econ, if you're economy abuse you don't care, and if you're playing trade as SSF-lite for build-enabling uniques/trading for shitty currency you need then it doesn't matter either
it literally only matters to a few FOMO retards and it's a personal issue
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>>507782634
>buys better gear than you could get in 100 hours for 5ex

You think you are getting a good deal, but really you are scamming yourself out of fun.
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>>507782742
there's no fun in slogging through low tier maps because you get stat checked by higher tier maps
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Isnt hulking form the best node in the game....?
You're getting like over +100% damage and a huge boost to every other stat your speccing into, including ones that are limited and you can only boost that high through using Hulking Form......

am I missing how this isnt straight busted?
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>>507782694
>day 5 of poopoo2
>picked wrong meme venom
>I'm sure GGG made a way to respec it
>can't find any info online
>notice the icon is still not faded out on the map for venom crypts
>yeah I bet if you run it again you can choose again, that makes sense!
>no
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>>507780674
>Act 2 blood dude when opening the gates for the caravan
I'm drawing a blank on this guy. What's the name of the zone he's in?
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>at blank node
>try map two tiers higher than the ones i've been doing
>come close to freezing shrine
>giant shroud walker golems spawn, jump on me, and beat me to death in 1.5 seconds
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trapper
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>>507782785
The game feels like it was designed by some Activision-Blizzard managers who wanted to hit certain hours played metric for investors and achieved that by wasting the players' time.
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Besides graphics every single thing about Poe 2 is worse than Poe 1

You can't change my mind
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>>507782829
NTA but probably referring to the Impaler at the Halani Gates
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>>507782031
>get caught lacking on gcs
yeah I'm sending your ass to the grave son, sorry oOjavazonOo cuck
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>>507782961
Thanks
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Lvl 88 SSF player here, and I’m tired…
…Of every progression system in this game being heavily weighted against players playing it without overgearing via trade. Just some personal stats to illustrate it

I could go on. But you get the point. Progression isn’t great unless you’re already overgeared. Because for whatever reason a lot of the ‘good’ stuff like omens that are supposed to make crafting more predictable don’t start dropping until you’re already grinding the highest tier maps. Most still remain myths I’ve only heard of in the trade league.

And don’t get me wrong, I’m well aware a lot of this comes down to my choice of playing in SSF. But I do so not because I’m into BDSM, but because I want to overcome the challenges myself. But when instead of providing rewarding drop and deterministic crafting outcomes you just slap that gacha machine on the back and smile, I gotta say. GGG. This. Is. Not. Okay.
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>>507782896
Are incomplete traps gay?
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Why are there nodes on the tree that give +60% max ES?
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>>507782946
wasd
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>>507783191
vision
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okay im twinking out a witch and trying to rush her to maps, how fast do you guys think i can get there?
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>>507783191
you simply don't get it
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>>507782031
bro your anni? your ztorch?
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>>507781420
Instead of copying fist moves, they copied A FUCKING BELL
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>>507783062
Trade requires more player input than SSF, you shouldn't be rewarded for doing less. This is why no one likes last epoch
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This is my criticism of poe2 (yes i'm bad at the game)
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Almost fucking shat my pants because a devourer suddenly attacked me in the trials of sexema
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>>507783384
there are builds that do millions of dps and melt pinnacle bosses in seconds in poe2 though
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>>507782946
Controller play is significantly inproved from poe 1. From the UI, to auto targeting, to item pick-up, to the ability to swap over to the mouse in limited interactions, it's worlds ahead of poe 1's controller use.
Still has a lot of room to improve on, but it doesn't feel bad anymore. Which is great for those of us who've developed gamer wrists over the years.
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>>507783191
so you dont have to invest in armor or ev with the absence of grace and determ aruas as defensive layering.
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>>507783447
list all one of them
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>>507783363
LE gives you a choice, trade is still better. but COF can give you some pretty powerful items compared to poop of excrement where the chance of you finding something usuable is 1 in 10,000,000
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>>507783508
you know things are bad when the best counter argument you can make is console support lol
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>>507783553
>trade is still better
No it's not, I played last season. Trade is broken and objectively slower than ssf. It's literally why I don't play it.
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i cant click to go through to clearfell? this is an alt, i traveled to my hideout, does that brick characters or something?
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>>507783062
>11
Should all trash rares get dismantled instead of sold?
I'm still in Act 1 Cruel due to a late start, but I have a feeling that I won't enjoy the endgame either (unlike in PoE 1).
Probably even after 3 years, the game will still be heavily skewed into trade league.
>>507783363
>comparing CoF to SSF
Way to tell you didn't play either.
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>>507783549
i've seen like 3 different ones already, here's one though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1tM_g-dPdI
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>>507783560
I'm not arguing though. If you don't like poe 2 that's fine, it's objectively worse in most areas compared to poe 1.
I'm just pointing out it feels good to play.
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>>507783650
>two player
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>>507783607
>broken
don't even know what your dumb ass means by this. If you mean its not functional in its current patch that does not change the argument.
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I hope they nerf everything to do with trade cuckery, it's what you deserve
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>>507783810
copied this retards build, it's going ok
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>>507783960
Yeah nerf everyone now, meanwhile zoomers have millions of divine sitting ready to be sold for irl money huh
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>>507783635
>Way to tell you didn't play either.
???????

Last Epoch sucks ass dude, it's a broken nightmare game, like they took every complaint redditors make about poe seriously and made an ultra casual clusterfuck of a game. The only thing wrong with PoE2 is MF. Right now progression is locked behind 3 things. Offense, defense, and MF. 2 of these things are affected by your gear and build, one is an arbitrary weight to limit progression, which just feels bad. Last Epoch is entirely arbitrary weights because it spoonfeeds you gear and you never have to think.
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>>507775193
Extra skill slots and double supports are both incredibly strong in the right circumstances. You just need to have a good idea of why you want it. It's certainly not weaker than quality and +1.
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>>507784010
>you have to spend 5 billion years grinding or its not a game
fundamental design flaw.
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>>507782492
Correct, but we're not talking about ES.
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>>507783447
There are, i don't disagree but the % of builds that can do that content seems tiny and most of the interactions i've seen looked bugged (and will probably be nerfed by GGG)
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why aren't portals instant? you can log out instantly.
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>>507784141
desu the bosses are turbo bugged so it only makes sense you used bugged tech to beat them
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>>507784156
Feel the weight
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>>507784120
Last Epoch is all grinding because progress is tied to multiple progression bars. In PoE you can "skip" the grinding by playing strategically to make your character stronger and your actions more profitable. This generally involves higher awareness and more risk taking. In Last Epoch everyone progresses at the same rate no matter what.
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Gemling double supports should've let you link the same support gem to the same skill twice
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>>507784010
>8% experience gained
>being that low corruption
I too like to use T1 maps as the basis of all of my arguments.
Ridiculous.

>>507784239
>everyone progresses at the same rate no matter what.
Excluding the keys you can use to skip through acts by going through dungeons and the speed with which to reach end game levels of corruption being directly tied to both build and skill.
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valve should clone this game and make it playable.
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>>507770643
How much energy shield do I need to switch to CI?
so far I have 1600 life and 4900 es
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>>507775182
Fire ball looks annoying and is not the same. I'm surprised they haven't introduced more and totally new skills with each element as well.
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>>507784319
>copy the game
>add keys and loot boxes
>stop releasing content
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>>507784239
>risk taking
you need to take your meds.
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>>507784307
>Excluding the keys you can use to skip through acts by going through dungeons
Woooooow no way
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>>507770643
is there a way to cheese zarokh? i run out of mana charges and from then on its a slog until inevitable death
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>>507784394
Trouble reading?
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>do t1 white map to quickly clear tower
>have 7k health
>get 1 tapped in the first 5 seconds
??????????
I genuinely have 0 idea what killed me
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>>507784330
5-6k, could switch now and see how it feels if your resists are gud
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Is POE2 made by a different dev team from POE1? I find it hard to believe POE2 has been in development for 5 years and so many basic things don't work properly or are broken.
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>>507775640
Help us understand what causes someone to save pictures of a tranny on his machine and simp for him. As a future father I'm eager to understand what causes it in order to not have kids become like you. What drives a man to simp for a man with a wig?
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>>507782694
ME HATE DICKHEAD SANCTUM
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>>507784386
There is an inherent risk involved on spending 10+ divs on an item or selling something for that much. Now we're looking at enormous gains and losses. There are no risks whatsoever in ssf. It's baby mode where nothing bad can ever happen.
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>>507784494
basic like?
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>>507783384
top applies to poe 2 too THOUGH
the difference between top juiced maps and pinnacles is far greater in poo2 than poo1
literally do the hardest/juiciest/most fucked up t16 maps over and over, and citadels, no worries
then you WILL instadie to arbiter if you get unlucky and/or do not instaphase him
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>>507784519
What a delusional tradie
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>>507784519
> There are no risks whatsoever in ssf.
Nobody cares about economics, they're here to kill monsters and pick up loot on the ground. Why do I have to subject myself to dealing with chinks my entire session to get the most of out the game?

This is inherently a worse experience and your fixated on the economic side of things when you would be much more suited to playing a management type game or selling crypto currencies.
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>>507784519
>tradie is a subhuman
who'd a thunk.
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Man, the campaign is gay as fuck. This game is totally dead after the hype. Yeah the acts will come out, then it will be shit. Yep, the abilities are all connected so every build is incredibly similar. Total shit show. lmao.
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>>507783256
Okay and that
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>>507784693
>the abilities are all connected so every build is incredibly similar.

>pick sorc
>USE A SKILL GEM
>cast solar orb
>look at it go
why does it suck
>unlock flameblast later
>mfw
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>running a map
>close to the end, just need one more rare mob
>map is one of those rickety stick villages with big huts with thatched rooves
>approach a hut and can't see the inside yet because of the roof
>a blade fucking slams down on my skull and craters me in one hit
>it was one of those crow men with the big butcher swords doing his jump slam
>couldn't even see him coming because of the roof
out fucking played
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>>507784608
If you use ferocity with perfect strike the attack goes slower instead of faster.
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>>507784647
>Nobody cares about economics
No, you're just afraid of failure. Everything about the game is economics, trade is just a more complex system of economics. SSF is just a microscopically smaller playing field by comparison. Any game with vendors and gear has an "economy", the whole game is economic functions. If I wanted my motor skills to be challenged I'd go play marvel vs capcom or something.
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>>507784817
I get this with towers. Its fucking crazy. Just have to shield charge in and pray I'm not shield charging into a triple frost beam.
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>>507784912
>No, you're just afraid of failure
every moment playing this dogshit game is failure what are you even on about.
> trade is just a more complex system
You literally have brain rot if you can't read my post and understand the point. good day troon.
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>>507779452
Deli you can expect, it's always at those mini mirrors. It's beyond that spawns without a warning surrounding you stopping your movement.
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spark feels so shit to level even with archmage
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>>507784984
>every moment playing this dogshit game is failure what are you even on about.
Uh oh ssf baby reveals its true form. Get rekt kiddo
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Should I migrate to standard? I have a div. Would easily set me up for a better build.

>Need to interact with players to trade
Nvm..

I'll do it if they ever automate trading haha!
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>>507773532
5 years of development and its in shambles.
How do you fuck up basic things like Armor? It wortked in POE1? Lets change it to be fucking worthless.
Thats the mindset of these new POE2 tencent devs. How can we nerf everything and make the game fucking shallow tripe.
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>>507783960
i play trade and hope they do it too
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>>507785187
>I'll do it if I don't have to think
Learning to trade might actually improve you as a person, like even outside the game
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>>507785187
nooooooooooo you have to trade!!!
respond to my post of my item sitting in my 1ex tab i have no intention of selling! PLEASE!! its a more complicated system that means its gooder!!!!
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I really really really wanted to like Last Epoch.

I really do.

But man, it feels so soulless. I fucking hate the graphics, I hate the epoch (maps) system, I hate the overall fighting / clearing of the maps. I do like the progression though but man playing the game honestly felt like a chore (same feeling i'm having playing maps in poe2).
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why do you guys argue the same points every single thread. this general was so much comfier before poe2 came out...
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>>507783810
>starts balding
>gets featured by ggg
hmmm
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>>507785307
>he boughted sleepoch
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>>507785309
>I hate the game and I can't stop playing it
>I love the game and I can't stop playing it
Pick one, there's nothing to argue about
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>>507784807
>flameblast
Any of you actually tried this much? Tempted to reroll into it but the solar orb interaction sounds lame.
>inb4 it's trash either way
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>>507785307
Last Epoch is unironically a better product than POE2 in its current state.
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>>507785439
>there's nothing to argue about
then why the fuck is the entire thread just arguing. wasn't like this a month ago.
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>>507778779
>20-30% more Life than a pure evasion character
That isn't much. In poe1 you'd be looking at double a lot of the time.
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>>507785307
I like the gameplay and generical game feel. Of ARPG's it has my favorite system of shapeshifting and runemaster (forma actually using the entire spell library) is very fun.

But the endgame sucks. Instead of playing to it's strengths via it's moment to moment gameplay the game devolves to a constant never ending race to outpace corruption based one shots.
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>>507785307
>same feeling i'm having playing maps in poe2
No shit, poe2 copied half of LE.
Except Jonathan couldn't fit it together with poe1 template, so the whole game's fucked up now.
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Did Epoch get one singular patch since its release almost a year ago?
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>>507775919
Defense and Resists are worthless in POE2. Absoltuely worthless.
Just go full glass cannon until the devs fix this fucking shit.
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>>507782217
They will add stuff in a big batch.
>new act
>3 new classes marauder, gladiator, theif assassin guy
>massive nerf / damage rework
>patch comes with new beta league
>all old league characters become irrelevant except for hyper casuals/dad gamers who dont care about the ladder or fresh starts.
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>>507785309
make a /poeg/ general then you fucking retard.
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>>507785491
This isn't PoE1 so who cares? You have to look at the numbers and what they mean in this game, not what they mean in another game. If 20-30% is too little for this game, that's one thing, but it means nothing if it's too little in PoE1.
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>>507785443
>hold button before doing damage
the monsters will have something to say about it.
but I will say being able to roll out and trigger the blast is kind of cool. I just dont understand why solar orb literally serves no purpose other than to trigger flameblast. or why I'm even prompted to pick it up as a spell. same with getting frostbolt at T3 but not having frost wall until T9 whoever thought this was a good idea needs to hang. Also eye of winter. I genuinely hate this character.
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>>507785543
Quite a lot of QoL has been added since that retarded release. It failed (again) because they won't properly punish trade exploits.
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>>507785561
Im genuinely scared the devs wont fix it and they will just accept endgame is poe1.5 and classes like druid will be nonviable excep for spamming aoe slam skill to clear the whole map all the time.
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>>507785613
where did I say I'm playing/talking about poe1 in my post? I want to talk about poe2, just without morons like you crying about trade or HC or SSF or whatever else has you upset today
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>>507785627
>If 20-30% is too little for this game, that's one thing
Yes that was pretty clear by "That isn't much". I'm glad you caught on.
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>>507777830
5 years of dev time.
missing items
shit uniques
end game is unbalanced and a joke and a mess
no refunds.
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Flames of Chayula is such a weird fucking ascendancy node. Why does each purple flame have their separate timer? That completely neglects the entire point of you going out of your way to get those nodes, to get a buff. But when you can have half your buffs run out before you even hit a single enemy, because each stack is on an individual timer is so fucking weird, when basically nothing but summons act that way otherwise.
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>>507785265
Now this is some advanced cope
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>>507785470
>then why the fuck is the entire thread just arguing. wasn't like this a month ago.
/d4g/ died so now miserable diablo keks are living in here. As soon as /d4g/ died it got bad, literally the same day. They can't learn the game so they are going to suffer and be miserable until they change and get better or go back to playing d4 in dead silence.
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>>507785713
Your direct evidence for "that isn't much" was data from another game, so again, the point you're trying to make is really weak. You have to use this game's numbers. You can't just say "that's not enough, evasion's still better".
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Hear me out, what if poe2 campaign but in poe1?
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>tradetrannies and youtube addicts about to mass 41% over mf
>ggg nowhere to be found
honestly based
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>>507773532
It is just PoE with a fancy new campaign and all the same issues PoE had, except they bricked the atlas and made the gem system weird and clunky
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>>507785729
You flicker and still miss them all even though you suck in the white orbs for ES
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>>507785506
>when Jonathan is fatter than the content in PoE2
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Poedb bros?
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>>507785627
>This isn't PoE1 so who cares?
POE1 is a better game and we have a right to compare this travesty to it.
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>>507785686
I hope they slow it down a bit, act1-3 was my favorite but that's too slow
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>>507785809
>need to rework game for the vision because poe1 has too much anti vision stuff
>poe2 is just a bunch of poe1 imported stuff
>feels like poe 1.5 at endgame
uh lads, im starting to think they werent ready to release?
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>>507785775
>/d4g/ this /d4g/ that

lmao. that is some rent-free shit cope you got there bud.

i've seen this shit happening a mile away. the repeated delays and anticapation plus the overall obsession to add new features means that poe2 won't be able to live to the hype. they should have released it back on November 15 but pushing it 3 weeks further for MTX (lol) was just an excuse to polish the turd state of poe2.
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>>507785839
isn't that also a tencent game thoughever?
or just generally chink?
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Diablo 3 is the best arpg
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the cracks are starting to show.
people are starting to see the massive design flaws and issues with poe2.
basically, apologize.
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>>507785953
>stop noticing me!!!!!!
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>>507777830
>>507778273
In the mind of everyone not insanely plugged in 24/7 this game has already launched. With a whimper.
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>>507785632
Yeah basic interactions like that should have a lower level gap.
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>>507785717
5 years isn't a long time.
pretty darn impressive when you consider it's going to be the best game in the genre once it releases.
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>>507785820
It hurts ssf more than trade retard. I can do citadels and ritual and make money. You on the other hand need it to drop enough exalts and rare upgrade mats like 6L.
And you don't have a crafting system to easily incorporate it on your gear.
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>>507785775
>Gamer dads are rampaging this place!!1
That's some insane victim mentality.
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Why the f*dge don't yellow chests guarantee a rare
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>>507785729
You need the second Flames node, then it's actually extremely good. Without the doubling node, you'll grab 2-3 flames and the buff will wear off by the time you reach the next pack. Maybe you'll have 1 second of 1 flame for 7% more damage. But when you double it, suddenly you get to the next pack with 6 seconds of 3 flames for 42% more damage. Then you use Mantra to clear the pack and get to the next one with 6 seconds of 140% more damage. And similar with leech of course, 7% of your life isn't very much, 14% is a lot bigger.

It's just a really badly designed ascendancy feature, the second notable is mandatory and then it's retroactively good.
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>>507785948
>poe 1.5 at endgame

please don't insult poe1 with that statement. this honestly feels like poe 0.10 at its current state.
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>>507780267
They removed Item Quantity because you kept getting god tier items in POE1.
Now in POE2? You get a ton of currency but NO ITEMS BECAUSE FUCK YOU YOU AIN'T GETTING ANY UPGRADES EVER.
poe2 is in shambles.
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>>507786068
so are you just going to pretend this thread isn't a cesspool
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>>507772035
He got me so much. That rolling spin slam is so fucking annoying.
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>>507786116
So? Who cares? It's EA.
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>>507785801
Putting aside the fact that it was a statement on its own, the data was from game this one was directly based on, so much so that there was a time where this was just going to be a 4.0 rather than a whole new game. Only 30% more is pathetic, especially when compared to ES (like another anon did and you admitted is better). Shit even Chayula's darkness is around 30% more "life" and it's such a bad ascendancy node no one wants to touch it.
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>>507785820
streamers are awful and i hate how devs cater to them. the surround thing was dumb, just be more careful dumbass
>it feels bad to get surrounded and die
yeah so dont do it, dumbass. wtf? I play through the game and there are so many situations where its like an ambush or a bone wall and i just roll through because lol 0 unite collision with roll. Game releases and immeiatly its like
>wow i get surrounded and feel bad when i die, its not fun
t- streamer who got filtered in middle of act 1
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>>507779242
To be clear, all or nothing is not a true weakness for evasion. As a solo layer the entropy system makes it incredibly unlikely that you'll just got randomly chunked playing evasion.

The real problem evasion has is phys AoE exploding an evasion build, but anyone who thinks that the layer is all RNG has no idea how the underlying systems work. You need to layer up no matter what you're going but evasion has always required much less supplements than armour aside from the mandatory HP/res floor.
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STILL NO AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
I'M SHITTING MYSELF IN ANGER
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>>507786068
he was probably talking about (you) thoughalbeithowever
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>>507785729
That one armor break thing works on individual stacks.
Conceptually it's a neat skill but functionally I don't think it's possible to game around any aspect of the flames without dumping 4 points.

On the topic of 4 points, I'm fairly certain it scales off of the base value of the hit pre-modifiers.
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>>507786059
>magic find is bad for ssf because it's useful and balanced in ssf
your brain on tr*de
tr*de, not even once
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>>507786083
>bending over for Tencent
>yellow not being strong

im confused too
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>>507786116
>quantity affecting quality of the items dropped
retard
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>>507786287
i think he wants mf gone and every character to just have baseline 200 mf
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>>507786089
I have both. But it's still the fact that it has separate timer for each purple flame that is just fucking weird. Like, I'm not denying that it's good once you get it going, but it's so counter-intuitive to how basically any other buff works. Like, look at Charged Staff, you can just slap a Persistent Charges on it and sometimes you can get lucky and just get 1 power charge and spam it until full power because it just stacks extra charges onto it with each use and then you can also just keep using a single power charge to completely refresh the buff. Imagine if using it would remove the power charge level from it over time, that'd make it feel awful to use.
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>>507786116
I literally equipped 100% MF and all my exalts changed to chaos orbs in t17s, it's an extremely noticeable change. There are no "god tier items" dropping in poe1. All I did last league was farm influenced bases (which i either crafted or sold raw) in fortress and run harbs in t16s. PoE2 is the same bubble gum strats completely crushing everything else, without the added influenced gear autism, which you'd cry about anyways. If they remove MF there'd be a smaller gap between t15s and pinnacle boss content, which would benefit everyone.
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>>507786436
>kinda
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>>507786436
It's actually kinda insane how many viewers PoE 2 has. It has more viewers currently than Valorant, Teamfight Tactics, DotA 2, CoD, and CS2. Only slightly lower than Fortnite and League of Legends despite Quinn being offline.
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What if instead of logging me out after 15 mins the website left me logged in? Have they thought about that?
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how happy will everyone be to return to a nu poe 1 league in march
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>>507786581
LOL
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>>507786564
Are there still twitch drops active?
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>>507786564
>It's actually kinda insane how many viewers PoE 2 has.
no it's not. lol
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>>507786083
>open yellow chest
>30 gold
working as intended goy. keep farming tier 3-5 maps for 1 exalt every 5 maps while the chinks farm 100 divines per hour in tier 15 with bows.
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>>507786615
there will never be another poe1 league
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>>507786647
Nope
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>>507786615
I'm so good at poe1 now that it's honestly kinda whatever, I'd rather have new things to do in poe2. I actually had to stop playing poe1 last league because I was just sitting on 200 divs and had nothing I wanted to spend it on, that never happened before.
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>finish poe2 campaign in 10 hours
>finish poe1 campaign in 4 days
bros, poe1 campaign is such a slog
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>>507786258
NTA but jesse what the fuck are you talking about, you're not making any sense
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Average SSF Chad - makes their own build, gets to maps, re-rolls once they are satisfied with where their build ended up
Average Trade autist - buys gear for cookie cutter currency farming build and just mindlessly grinds maps so they can spend another 5 hours sitting in their hideout PMing chinks
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>>507785309
comfy is a reddit buzzword and autism dogwhistle

i am sorry that not every post is soothing visual diazepam to you. golly it must be difficult when the only thing someone can deal in is niceties and warm fuzzy feelings

nigger fuck you
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>>507784486
thanks!
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>>507786564
more viewers than
a 4 year old game
a 5 year old game
a 11 year old game
a 14 year old game
a 12 year old game

wowzer
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>>507786615
I ain't going back. And many won't bear the game either once they came back to it. People will never finish the campaign and will demand the challenges to be ported to PoE 2 to not miss out on whatever mtx they add there. That means, if there is even a PoE 1 league they are working on. Can't believe it though.
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>>507786763
liar+faggot
rope yourself
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>>507786705
Its literally one of the most watched categories on Twitch RIGHT NOW
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>>507786482
>If they remove MF there'd be a smaller gap between t15s and pinnacle boss content, which would benefit everyone
Ah yes, that's why I made every single league in poe 1 hundreds of divs and back in the day exalts for doing boss carries for challenge/atlas completion. This will surely cause casuals that are unable to not stand in fire or do basic boss mechanics to magically start farming pinnacle bosses.
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i found a gloom shrine but the sound effect was different. i need my pops. in fact if the last witch ascendancy doesn't have profane bloom making pops i'm going to write so many angry forum posts
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>>507786820
>PMing chinks
I exclusively trade with Japanese girls who whisper me cat emojis
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>>507786763
I have fond memories of 2012 POE1 first 3 Acts twice the maps.
POE2? Its shit. And the Maps are shit.
Why does it feel like POE2 is a downgrade from 2012 POE1? Everything even the music is worse.
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>>507786482
the problem here isn't the game, it's the players.
poe 2s loot system is what a lot of people were asking for for years.
better ground found loot and more crafting currencies.
but then there wasn't enough loot, then there was too much loot, now magic find it's fair and all loot needs to be nerfed.
and then it will be 'well how come i can't just have good items for my build!?'
ggg need to just go back to doing what they do and ignoring everyone.
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>>507786868
poe players have like 6 tabs of streams up while playing
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>>507786615
I will probably buy a 480$ pack for it ngl
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>>507786885
>This will surely cause casuals that are unable to not stand in fire or do basic boss mechanics to magically start farming pinnacle bosses.
They can't even get to pinnacle bosses. People can't even do delirium and breaches, there's like a huge traffic jam in progression right now.
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>>507786950
>Why does it feel like POE2 is a downgrade from 2012 POE1

Because it is, including the team working on it
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>>507786436
>middle of the night
>doomsisters coping with twitch views
grim
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>>507786815
It's a response on "each stack is on an individual timer"
That one armor break persistent buff whose name alludes me also has stacks that roll off individually.
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>>507787006
but dark souls bosserinos and rolling!
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>>507786950
>Why does it feel like POE2 is a downgrade from 2012 POE1?
because you are retarded or you never actually played poe back then.
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>>507786828
poe is 12+ years old
ToT
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starting to turn around on the doomies, they're dooming is starting to just feel desperate bordering on begging god to make the game fail.

It won't btw
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What passive gems do people typically put on the Bell? I can't seem to find anything besides bigger AoE + more Stun that feels like it does anything.
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Imagine the crying you'd see in here if bowfags were dying to off screen reflect mobs like they did back in 2012
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>>507787156
>no vaal pact with 10k es
just git gud
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>>507787209
SOVL
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>>507787080
>you never actually played poe back then.
time to kys niggy
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poe2 bad
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>>507787121
doomsisters are going through the stages of doom:
>denial
>anger
>bargaining (you are here)
>depression
>suicide
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Did they stealth buff money drops? Because I am in act 3 normal and I'm regularly picking up stacks of 1k+ gold now.
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>>507787336
feel the weight
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>3.0 was 7+ years ago
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poe2 sucks
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>>507787336
always check the other side
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>>507787367
>because you are retarded or you never actually played poe back then.
considering you couldn't parse a whole sentence i think we have the answer.
also, unascended witch, 78 oathfinder, standard.
i smell a shitter.
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>>507787336
Rapid fire looks so cool
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>t9 breach
>minions all get bodyblocked and despawn
>swamed by 400 shitters who are 17 layers deep and cant roll dodge
>have no damage because lol minions
>ES cant recharge fast enough
>minions finally respawn
>do nothing because the clerics bunched up infront of the arsonists so they dont attack
>die
do i just abandon this build? its fucking worthless unless i can control the encounter at long range it seems
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>>507787693
yeah I know you got btfo. its okay anon. ;)
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>>507787336
>pulling those stupid fucking levers takes half a minute in total every time you go to augury
>i've spent over a literal hour of my life just pulling that fucking lever
I HATE thinking about shit like this when uninteractive time wasters get added to games.
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I just want a rapid fire OP one button build that insta freezes man

Lemme be american
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>>507787826
Play monk
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>>507787693
>oathfinder
damn you are seething at the keyboard, legit rushed to type all of that and couldn't spell it right lol
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he seriously turns himself into a pickle lmfao
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>>507787882
lightning or ice monk?
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>>507787953
Yes
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howdy poeggers
ive been playing some fresh resets to check out skills to start out with to have a smooth time in terms of damage

so far the following setups have been night and day for me and were highly successful (per weapon class):
>Occult/Minions
Get Raging Spirits from Freythorne
Flame wall + Fortress support
This is the go-to start for smooth sailing for minions
Get rattling sceptre or more skelly warriors for Pain Offering. Pain offering is really good use it.
>Occult
Contagion + Essence drain is actually really smooth for leveling even before buffs.
Bosses go slow, but it's very reliable.
Use Dark Effigy + Withering Touch for some more ST dmg around act3
>Elemental/Sorc
Start with Flame Wall + Spark
Swap to Ice Nova + Frostbolt
Spark is good for clear with pierce but it lacks the damage that ice nova on frostbolts have
>Mace
Boneshatter with default attack, use stun support for super easy bossing in act1-2
Shockwave totem is good for act1 and a bit of act2
Perfect Strike = free campaign clear afterwards for any boss
I don't know what people are smoking when they say mace = bad.
>Crossbow
Explosive Grenade + Default shoot
Gas Grenades a bit later. Pop them with a lv1 flamewall. Mule a gem over from a fresh level 1 if you need it.
>Bow
Lightning Rod + Lighting Arrow are all you'll ever need. Use a low level Orb of Storms w/ chain support if you want.
Gas Arrow + Flame Wall much like gas grenades is really strong too
>Quarterstaves
Quarterstaves are the best bar none. Free smooth sailing even to pinnacles just doing whatever you feel like.

Merry christmas
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>>507787693
Bro take a deep breath. It's alright for somebody to not like your favorite game.
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>>507787929
i actually have dozens of ascended characters over the years and just use a level 1 witch as my avatar.
dude can't cope that I am a 2012 alpha player. I was playing poe1 which he was at primary school or some shit.
im too old for po2
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>>507788105
>RTL2
Mein Bruder
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What's the difference between warrior and marauder supposed to be
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>>507787741
No, minions are literally insane, no one can do breaches until late game. Targeted farming strats are just locked behind the end of maps now. They need to adjust it.
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>>507788268
marauder elemental axes
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>>507788105
so you are a boomer with a failing memory, it happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO_q8VuBJmI
this wasn't better than poe 2 btw. it wasn't even better than talisman or prophecy.
the game was jank as fuck with nothing to do aside from run around the docks for a day or two and quit.
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Warrior has pants
Marauder has no pants
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>>507788296
Isn't that templar's thing
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I hope they add Energy Blades.

>>507788268
Marauder is White.
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>>507788318
it was a gem for its time. it made diablo 3 look like shit.
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>>507788364
no templar is flails + shield
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>>507788268
Well originally PoE2 was meant to include PoE1 so all the original classes would be in 1 but all the new classes would be in 2. Then they joined the games together so now every section of the tree has 2 dudes
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ES doesn't need nerfing. Evasion is just as strong as any build not abusing EB/MoM. It's just Armor needs buffing.
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>>507788318
now this is kino.
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>>507788296
Axes are bleed + throwing. So you'll probably get like spectral throw and lacerate (renamed). Swords are the elemental melee archetype
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>>507788384
Isn't he supposed to be Maori
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>>507788389
yes for the time and compared to diablo 3 it was amazing. the game consistently got better over the years and poe 2 is the culmination of all those iterations and refinement.
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SPARK IS SHIT SPARK IS SHIT LEVELING WITH SPARK IS SHIT
>Fully decked out leveling uniques + mandatory amulet
SPARK IS SO FUCKING SHITTTTTTTT
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>remove 25% less honour life affliction
>get 40% less damage dealt affliction instead
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>>507788594
>poe 2 is the culmination of all those iterations and refinement.
its a step backwards. they removed many things from poe1 and it shows.
they caved into what reddit and chinks wanted and now the game is getting more hate and negative feedback loop than ever.
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>>507788318
>POE1
>use stradegy and planning to overcome the odds, lag and bullshit
>POE2
>lmao there is no stradegy or planning, enjoy being one shot randomly and lose your map and exp even when stacking armor and life and max resists
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>>507788602
nowhere near as bad as flame fusilade
>stupid high charge cast time
>does fuck all damage or ignite chance
>half the projectiles spit out in random directions
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>>507788658
LOL
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>>507788460
>everyone and their dog agrees Armor needs fixing or buffing
>GGG: Yeah so we are not nerfing ES, we are buffing Evasion and Armor is actually working as intended!
imagine the salt
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>>507787726
I've unlocked unlimited bolt works
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>>507788787
who at GGG thought it was good design to make you lose that much XP on death?
i get it, skill issue blah blah dont die but its tedious and retarded and losing the map is punishment enough
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>>507788787
>stradegy
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>>507787625
They should just give it deminishing returns, and it would be fine. ES needs good gear, which you don't come across super fast. Same can be said about the other defenses.
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>>507788268
>>507788296
>>507788364
Marauder gets axes. Compared to hammers they focus more on speed, will have projectile attacks, and interact with bleed. They're most likely primarily physical. Rage is basically assured to be a marauder mechanic.

Flails are crit focused but that's really the only information we have on them.
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extreme casual here, when does this xp loss happen and can it delevel you
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: on bossing setup, how do you shock (to proc CoS) if you don't have charged staff up and you don't have power charge ? Currently, I don't have enough spirit (currently 212 spirit) to keep up Combat Frenzy + CoS (to get the 1st power charge through first freeze and then shock with charged staff) so I'm chargeless and I can't proc CoS to get them
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Is there anything that I can do to make those gap closing palm skills instantly shatter mobs so I can zoom zoom around the map?
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>>507788990
you can basically lose 10 maps worth of EXP dying once.
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>>507788990
when you get to maps, no
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>>507788268
Marauder is going to allow you to move and fight like the monk
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>>507789036
fuark
i haven't noticed but im fucking retarded and just run unenchanted waystones. only learned today that i shouldn't do that
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>>507788672
better crafting
better trading
better itemization
better combat
better visuals
better campaign
better controls
i think a fair criticism could be made against the skill tree but it's early access and we are missing too much.
endgame is pretty shit, progression feels bland and the atlas skill constellations suck.
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>threads are slow/dead
>everyone is reaching maps and realizing how bad and negative things really are
>GGG on holidays until January only to make a small hotfix patch which wont do anything
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>>507788602
imagine being unable to use the strongest skill in the game even with gear.
just fucking give up you subhuman
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>headhunters dropped by 10div in 1 day
gonna be eating GOOD soon
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>>507789281
>POE2
>better crafting
the very first thing you said invalidated your entire post. grats anon, really.
>better itemization
OH NO NO NO NOOOO AHAHAHAAHAH
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There is a node near witch start named Exploit the Elements
There, it says "30% increased chance to apply ailments to rare & unique enemies"
Does this work with bleeds & poisons? and how?
If you have any % chance to bleed, does it add a flat 30%? or if you run Lacerate on Bone Prison for example for 50% chance to bleed it just does 0.5*1.3 so essentially +15% chance to bleed on rare & unique enemies?
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>>507788105
>im too old for po2
the problem with 30 year old boomoids is going quiet into that goodnight instead of just adapting

do you think those reflexes are going to get any better if you don't do anything that requires them?
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what are doomies going to do when this game never drops below 100k over the next six months (except for like one week during poe 1's "league" launch lol)? Like when does it become desperate to doom?
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>>507789091
its flat 10% of a levels worth of xp loss. so the higher level u are the more time u will lose. if you have something tough you wanna try, do it after levelling up while you're on 0% xp cause it wont matter
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>>507789505
this is doomtroon false flag post
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>>507789505
doomies are from doomed franchises and got nothing better to do anyway. it is more entertaining than whatever they were from to begin with

you think doomies are going to go and play d4 or whatever that other thing was instead of shitting up vg?
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>>507789575
no refunds
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Any sort of concoction is peak comfy leveling
>automatic leveling
>automatic six socket
>gets more powerful naturally
>doesn't require mana, only like two flask notables on the tree
>good AoE
>straightforward clear
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>>507789489
just press alt and hover over the underlined text my guy
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god I just LOVE running rituals and having 2 square feet to maneuver and having to deal with a fuckton of projectiles and on-death puddles while I have nowhere to move.
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>>507789505
Dooming intensifies and there is always something to doom about. If it's not played numbers, you can always doom about GGG's incapability, creative bankruptcy, the slow pace, lack of soul or fleeting hair. Doom is eternal.
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>>507789680
Do you play like poe1 pconc where you want multiple of them overlapping or are you going for single big poison stacks?
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>>507789576
I think it's 15%. Can any SCHAD confirm? Either way if you're level 9#, you really don't wanna die.
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>>507789575
i see multiple dupes of your gems in this one small image desu delete them
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>>507699234 #
Are there still people on here pretending that you can clear the game on off-meta builds? Hasn't been true in 1, won't be true in 2.
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turds falling out of my asshole rn
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>>507789505
A cult will always double down when proven wrong.
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>>507789434
half the crafting mechanics they added to poe 1 over the years were trying to fix the core crafting system.
spamming thousands of alts on a base isn't a good crafting system. fossils, essence, fractures, harvest, rog, all steps away from the core crafting system.
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>>507789825
retard
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>>507789850
still more quality than poe2
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>>507789680
>>doesn't require mana, only like two flask notables on the tree
sustaining flasks takes more than that t b h
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>>507789910
oh pardon me faggot i never knew you needed that lvl 9 skeleton arsonist in your gem tab allow me to excuse myself from your faggotery
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>>507789878
Alt spam was stupid but those systems to patch it up existed even if they were added later. Crafting is very limited, time consuming, expensive and highly RNG in 2 in its current state. It plays a big part in the reason between the price range of items basically not existing between a handful of exalts and divine tier gear, then 50 divine tier gear after that.
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>have no movement speed since I use fartboots
>get the 40% movement speed boon
>these two fuckers ive lost at several times becomes chumps

Nice game, ggg.
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>>507789878
i love the new crafting system in poe2!
>alt
>regal
>its shit, throw it in the trash and farm another one to try again
amazing crafting
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>>507789337
>the strongest skill in the game
That is LA
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>>507789291
its christmas/nye retard
everyone is either
>with family
>partying
>drunk
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>>507790087
bait used to be believable
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>>507790096
Stage 1: Denial
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>>507790115
Do you ever sleep? You're in these threads the past days contributing nothing but bait and troll posts
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>>507789842
The campaign on a fresh reset is harder than the pinnacle bosses at T2 or below
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>>507790181
meant for >>507790096
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>>507790261
No meant for you, you retard
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>>507790167
>>507790261
(you)
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Honestly, I probably wouldn't mind the crafting system in 2 very much at all if only essences were much more common and nothing else.
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>>507790301
That doesn't even make sense, anon
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>>507790068
years ago ggg made the design decision to give base items more inherent value, you should have seen this coming.
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do we know if there's a cap on honour resistance? is there any reason to go above 75%?
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>act 2
>damage check everything
>poison spitters? 20-50 damage
>slow skeleton archers? 10 damage
>guy with jar? magma balls for 20dmg / each, fire spray for 50dps
>jarguy? fixed, 10dps aoe that may overlap
>skeleton boss headslam right into your character? 100-200 damage
>ect.
>a white mooooob leaping vulture? hitscan autoaim + tracking full screen aoe leapslam for 400-500 damage
??????????????
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>>507790068
It's incredible how retarded it is because you will always run a surplus of orbs. You probably get 100 orbs for every (base you want)
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>>507790527
75% by default, some relics provide +max honor res and the hard cap is 90%
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>be me
>have a kino and fun monk build that i made with average gear that melts bosses and has good survivability in tier 18 maps without having like 6k+ ES
>make decent loot too
>all on SSF

>meanwhile reddit be liie WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH TOO HARD THIS GAME IS TOO HARD I NEED TONS OF DIVS TO SURVIVE TIER 5 MAPS WAAAAAHHHHHH NERF MAGIC FIND AND WATCH THIS KRIPP VIDEO THAT PROVES WHY I CANT GET TO HIGH TIERS

how fucking bad are reddit sc tradecucks? seriously you can go far with shit gear even my last shit warrior got to tier 15s just fine
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>>507790383
they should be way more common.
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>>507790527
Technically 150% protects you from half relic power affliction.
But you're not getting that high and you're bricked if you get that anyways.
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>>507790564
>System is shit
>Anon defends it anyway
HOWS DAT BOOT THO
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>>507790583
People who play ranged or monk should be banned from having an opinion.
Gemling with that +range staff thingo does not count as melee
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>>507790583
>got to
Yeah and stopped there
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>"i'm on SSF by the way"
Never have I encountered people more desperate of validation than I have on this website.
Even R9K has less people begging for attention.
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>>507790582
>>507790604
cool thanks, i'll fit in some different relics
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>>507790583
>>have a kino and fun monk build that i made with average gear that melts bosses and has good survivability in tier 18 maps without having like 6k+ ES
post
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>>507790624
Where was i defending it though?
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>>507790656
>stopped there
Stopped reading there
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>>507790065
>get no energy shield affliction
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>>507790594
Yeah it's ridiculous that we can't target farm mechanics. I've always disliked delirium and breach. I like ritual enough but it's pretty piss for rewards in PoE2. I'd be happy to alch and go more if I thought maps were at least have some essences sitting around consistently but instead I spend shit maps clearing out shit nodes so much to save my 15s.
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>>507790649
do you not read me saying that i also did all that on a shit warrior too aka the worst class?

read nigger read. Learn to play the game too tradecuck
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>>507790649
>the only relevant opinion is from a memespecs
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>>507790834
I don't read posts made by m*nks
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>>507790449
Yes they did, which is also supported by ton of other crafting methods allowing you to reach desirable outcome for your build instead of having to toss away the base if you don't hit anything remotely decent on it and farm a new base to try again.
At least give us something like a bestiary imprint, so you can at least have a chance to save the item if you aug/regal thorns/attribute requirements for the xth time.
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Unbound avatar feels a bit mediocre. Fucking hate how you lose the charges on zoning too
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>>507790583
post build now, very doubt you're "good survivability in tier 18 maps without having like 6k+ ES"
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https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/6ib9x036
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>>507790702
2.6K energy shield with 1.8k life. 78% evasion and 70% damage reduction from my ascendancy skill. Max res besides chaos which is the only threat

despite my low health i live just fine cause nothing can damage me much besides chaos
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man a crafting bench would solve so many issues
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>>507790764
For some reason this made my max honour go from 6K+, being at 5.6k health, down to 2k max honour and fucking 700 honour left. I died to chip damage in a tiny raperoom..

I can't honestly believe anyone at ggg enjoys this. They didn't playtest their own game..
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>>507791007
>They didn't playtest their own game..
First time?
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>>507790989
>invoker player
hahahhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>507791000
I just want to be able to balance my resistances more easily.
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>>507788052
>don't know what people are smoking when they say mace = bad.
No one says it's bad in the campaign
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>>507790561
Weight status: Felt
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>>507787901
Always rarity since it upconverts currency.
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>>507790561
those aztec niggers in late normal Act 3 are absolutely fucked
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>>507791000
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>>507791047
>no argument
yup enjoy crying on reddit. I got to tier 15s with like 3.6k hp on a shitty titan too
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>>507791213
>teleports behinds you
>heh.
>nothing personell exile
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I'm surprised at how cheap ingenuity is, relatively. Only 20 div last time I checked for poe 2's mageblood.
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why on earth is mings fucking heart sold for 1 divine on average
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>>507790561
Vultures are one of the worst enemies in the game. Even if you can tank their hits comfortably, the stun value on them is so high that they can easily chain stun you if you don't notice a pack of them coming around the geometry.

They're up there with decrepit mercenaries, priests of the sun and the eternal knights. The last one is probably the worst since you can't necessarily count on deleting them before you see them.
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>>507791297
poggers dark souls moment
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>>507791213
i like that they lucked into some super high tech shit but are still just savages.
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>>507791051
Runes should be swappable by destroying the current rune in it (corrupted = no swapping)
Crafting bench for trans/augs ect. for simple +life and +res, up to like 10-20% rolls

>>507791238
bro i got this sick bow and I just can't use it because my level 8 bow has more flats/ele dmg on it + im lacking sockets (I can probably use it when I get 2 socket orbs (pain))
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>>507791297
He was the coolest guy and you killed him
>The anvil drops!
Or whatever he says. Too cool for act 1
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>>507791297
Zanzibart...
Forgive me...
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>>507791475
tr/a/nnybro...
where have you been...
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How is Volatile Dead anyway?
free 6l must account for something right
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>DIABLO SOULS
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>>507791213
>backflips over you
>attaches stacking -10% less speed chain that remains until killed
>kill him
>chain doesn't get removed because bug
burn africa to the ground
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Reminder to all you faggots

reddit is gonna bitch and cry for years until the game is so dumbed down, easy and braindead to even the newest of players that the game will be no different than Diablo 4

this is the fate of all modern day video games. Reddit cries and cries until every game on earth is the same generic AAA braindead slop
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>level ice strike monk
how do i get more defenses?
also mana
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Hi hello whats the go to brain dead warrior build
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Reminder that all arpg difficulty is artificial.
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>>507791352
Runes being permanent is probably the stupidest decision in the game for me. Like, not the worst. It doesn't really piss me off that bad and I don't think it has too bad of an impact on the game compared to some other things. It's just that the one choice in particular is so bafflingly stupid to me.

Like the map system is obviously rushed and there's a big catch-22 trying to fix it that I sympathize with any poor dev that has to try and do that. Balancing issues are expected in this stage of the game. The concepts behind the crafting system make sense even if they don't work in practice.

But runes are so dumb I don't know how anyone could've possibly come to that choice and thought it was a good idea man. The rune economy would be way better if people were shifting runes around since they'd have to go through more of them. Upgrading items is way worse since you can easily overcap a resistance because you had runes on it before a drop or purchase and have no way to fix it without investing more currency which is the absolute worst when you hit the point that upgrades cost divs. If you don't have dire need of a rune you're better off avoiding marginal upgrades and holding slots for future considerations. You have a much harder time pivoting your layers if you decide to optimize or chance your build. It's so fucking dumb. I'm overcapped on every ele res right now and my chest piece has two all ele runes that I could get way more survivability out of by changing them to iron runes.
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>>507791637
Naturally. See: how PoE 1 changed and aged over time. Became grossly too easy with a billion choices and ways to upgrade and cheat (great example is how deterministic crafting only got easier and strong over and over, league after league)
And see: PoE 2 is brand new and still so many people are instantly killing all bosses, all pinnacles, 1-shotting multiple packs/much of the screen instantly (also shattering corpses which is very safe too)
Not a doomer, I still have SOME hope for Poo2. Zero hope for Poo1 though.
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Quite funny how that one schizo got doomed so hard by PoE 2's launch that he dropped the game entirely. He's stopped completely saving every thread on /v/ sliding into the abyss. Game over, buddy, game over.
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>>507790582
where is that info
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>>507791637
trueeeeee
however
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3069670
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>>507791314
>Vultures are one of the worst enemies in the game
Hey jonathan, what should we do? these vultures are kinda strong as is
>Make the leap attack they do a slam, that way players can't iframe it with the dodge roll we force them to spam
uh jonathan...?
>Also make it fast enough that you need at least 20% movespeed to even get out of it in time
Jonathan I don't think th-
>Also double the damage on it, and give it full armour penetration
Jonh I really don't think this-
>Reduce the amount of rarity rares in the act and replace them with an overabundance of guaranteed skill gem drops
Jonathan people already have their skills largely figured out by that t-
>Also add 2 of them, guaranteed 2 mod rares, in a small circular side area, that spawn simultaneously
Jonathan I don't think this will be that fun for the play-
>ELDEN RING
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>>507791637
It's by a small flexible indie team unlike your shitass Diablo 4
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>>507791891
>>Also add 2 of them, guaranteed 2 mod rares, in a small circular side area, that spawn simultaneously
>Jonathan I don't think this will be that fun for the play-
I find that fight fun. Pity it drops something useless.
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>>507791701
i was the guy talking about my really strong monk that melts pinnacles and im ice strike

go ES and evasion. get the ascendancy node from invoker that gives you flat physical defense reduction and cap your resistances. You will also get a lot of spirit which gives you really broken auras for your survivability

congratulations, you cant die unless you get fucked by chaos

alternatively you can go full ES build but your damage will suffer which will fuck ur clear speed and kill you
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>>507787336
Has anyone else got the bug where if you get pushed to the side during the lever animation the doors never open and the map bricks essentially?
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>>507791996
which auras are you running? just got ice herald
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I feel like heralds of ice and thunder are massively overtuned. Slap these two on any attacking character and congratulations, you have giga clear. Tried playing spark for a while but without heralds it just feels garbage.
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>>507785307
it looks too reddit for me. poe has infinite soul even though we shit on it
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>>507792004
I had this happen in trial of chaos stage where you have to put the soul cores in the center of the map
It actually respawns the key wherever you originally picked it up, so it seems like a deliberate mechanic??
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>>507791297
>killing doesn't matter if I don't know the person
ok psycho
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>>507792101
i tried to play it, it really reminded me of grim dawn in the worst ways.
and the devs are shit, idk if they are lazy or just not good, but they don't seem to be able to actually do anything productive in a reasonable timeframe.
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>>507791740
its crazy how much reddit fucking cries when i see act bosses get oneshot now by any character

if GGG does the smart thing and slows the game down, this will cause the biggest meltie ever on reddit cause everything will be nerfed to make the game for thoughtful and meaningful

if they cater to reddit and speed everything up and make it easier with better loot drops, reddit will be happy but it will just be another pointless cookie clicker easy game with a million currency, ways to craft easy gear and infinite yellows. Unironically reddits vision is the worst case scenario for the game

as hyped i am for poo2s launch, reddit is gonna kill this game easily. Its crazy how little peopoe here are doomposting about reddit since they will be the main reason the game becomes dogshit
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>>507791771
pretty sure you can Alt and hover over the word Honour
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i dont know if i should buy or wait for the poe2 mtx to come out which will be of higher quality
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day 2 of project diablo 2. just got to nightmare mephisto. i have to do family stuff tomorrow but after they leave i'm gonna do some meph runs i think,maybe try finish nightmare.
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>>507792401
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>>507791297
THE GUILLOTINE DROPS
Love that guy. Funny seeing him 1 shot everyone in groups too.
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>>507792181
>he said playing a game where he kills animals/people/monsters by the thousands
ok Stalin
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>>507792467
dont care stupid frog
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>>507792401
that's off-topic
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JONATHAAAAAN
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>>507792067
ice herald is great and then ghost dance and wind dance for insane survivability. Combat frenzy too so you can get power charges from freezing/shocking enemies but you need Resonence on the tree to turn the frenzy charges you get from that aura into power charges
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>>507792334
You slow, meaningful and thoughtful gameplay niggers are so fucking retarded, there's no slow methodical gameplay when you get swarmed by 300 white mobs that do half of your HP on hit, maybe go back and play Nioh or whatever the fuck you were playing before instead of an ARPG.
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>>507792509
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Didn't even level today because I died to the fucking dodge roll bug 5 times
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>>507792089
Dunno why the fire herald is so shit by comparison. There's a herald of blood in the code but no info yet on what it does
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>>507792582
Based
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>>507792591
Just don't dodge.
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WHY DOES MY FUCKING CROSSBOW JAM ALL THE TIME WHEN I TRY TO RELOAD FUUUCK
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>>507792664
STALKER gun jamming for realism, pls andastand
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>>507792664
>he's not doing the maintenance mini game in town
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>>507792701
H-he's fast
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At what point would you say something is worth 1ex? Two resistances and at least one at 20%?
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>In order to make the rarity modifier available to more builds and increase engagement with the crafting system, the magnitude of "Rarity of Items Found" modifiers on gear has been doubled. Existing values will not be changed unless you use a Divine Orb.
how would reddit and the rmt mafia react?
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>>507792623
Yeah I just changed the key to something I'd never hit already since you can't even unbind keys
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>>507792762
>tiny armor roll
>tiny life roll
that's a vendor
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>>507793117
What does a good armour roll look like to you?
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>>507793159
I would genuinely not listen to any trading advice here.
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>>507793159
armor thats at least 800-1200k
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>expedition map
>monsters can have additional modifiers
>expedition npc explodes nearby corpses
>I am playing minions
FUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
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You are hunted...

Fang, tooth and claw...

Tortured under the moon...

The pack suffered but endured...

And howled now in tune...

No tales were told...

None new, none old...

And their endless hunger... Grew ever stronger.
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Never got my final set of ascendancy points. Even with min lvl coin, 100% honor resistance, +100% defence via relics, maxed out resistances, an entire warehouse of boons from the merchant and I still just died in a second after the last boss went “random bullshit go” mode.
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>>507792762
>low armour
>low life

Shard that shit

>>507792762
High armour roll +130 or at least 85% increase
Life could be +70 at that point but +100 is golden
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>>507793336
Just do 30 rounds of Chaos then.
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>>507793323
I already liked it but someone told me his lines are timed as if it's a call-and-response with the player and it's so fucking cool
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Make runes replaceable. Please. I don't ask for anything else for gearing... I have so much cold resist....
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>>507793467
Feel the weight
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>>507777095
Everything is allowed in this general because we don't get any PoE fanart
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>>507793336
The chaos boss is easy as fuck
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how long do i use pillar of cage god on my ice monk for leveling?
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>>507777830
They're harder to code than other weapons
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What's the best option to irradiate here? Only have enough for one.
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>>507793535
Shut the fuck up granblue slop supporter
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>>507791985
bird 1 has
>Haste Aura
>Heals Allies and Suppresses Foe Recovery
bird 2 has
>Temporal Bubble
>Regenerates Life
shit ain't fun, champ
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>>507793705
legit doesn't matter, anon. use it on the tower you're in. irradiation tablets are common and their influence is very unreliable.
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>>507793705
Tablets are kind of retarded, you'll fire it up and instead of irradiating what you think it should it'll irradiate a map 4 nodes away from where you are going.
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>>507793705
Better to save the towers for a breach tablet anyways
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>Bigass mobs models
>Shit ton of aoe
>Block the roll pathing
I never hated Act 2 until i've played mace character.
Fucking cancer piece of shit.
Bonus point - bosses with fire resistance.
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Oh boy another retard listed a unique for way lower than it's worth pinging my livesearch
Surely he'll respond right
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>>507793668
forever
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>>507793708
how do you know it
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https://youtu.be/5ZvNKGRhG-c
How is he wrong?
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>whisper 10 people
>9 of them immediately unlisted
I love trade !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JONATHAN!
This is the only visible way I have to get across to the other mass of land.
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>>507793985
>enemies all jumble together
>mace has a shit ton of aoe to use
??????????????
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Unearth Bleed Blood Mage.
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>>507771081
>based around the performance of top tier blasters

Well assume the top blaster runs 4 times as fast as me and has 1000% rarity on his gear. That makes for 40x the farming efficiency.

Remove the MF out of the equation, that's going to narrow the gap between us by the factor of 10, nerf the broken outlier builds and that's going to even the field even more.
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>>507794063
DELET THIS
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>haven't even slept yet
>already hungover
alright time for some maps I guess
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>>507794197
Agreed and that's how it should be. Trim the outliers (the giga trash and giga broken) and remove MF from affix pool entirely (so rarity bases stay, and the shit MF uniques stay).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUuzGeksI18

ITS UP
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>>507794350
You think I'm going to watch a video with a clickbait thumbnail and full caps title?
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>>507794475
yes magefist is based
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every single time i've seen the phase "it's up" in the past 3 years it's been some brown kid shilling his favorite streamer
every single time
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>>507793708
Cringe
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>>507794350
First he steals my Deadeye Explosive Shot build now he steals my Freeze Pathfinder is this guy stalking me.
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>>507794350
buy an ad
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>decide to try Blasphemy on my Monk because I have 30 spirit to spare and can replace another aura
>Temporal Chains
>go into map
>0% effect despite 2 different multipliers
>realize I have a 105% reduced curse map
Fuck you
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>>507794562
>>507794216
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>>507793740
The mods are random. It's still a nice little challenge.
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Whens my ice monk gonna start? For now im squishy
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Important videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCpqlpCrp6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkd7fq_2yl0
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https://youtu.be/lEo-itecWo8
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>>507794776
buy ne ad
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do you have to have ice damage in your build for herald of ice to be good?
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I can put one generic curse on my Hand of Chayula
Temp chains or Enfeeble? I feel like Enfeeble is better overall but temp chains keeps the freeze on mobs longer giving some QoL there.
-Res curses are wasted with my ascendancy
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>>507794776
>tranny with a voice changer
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>>507794534
Granted tons of people discovered explosive shot was good day 1 so it was inevitable someone would build it on the ascendancy that scales it best
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>The top post of poe reddit right now is a retard dying in a tier 2 map
>says the game is as frustrating as league of fucking legends when he's doing tier fucking 2

These are the dumb niggers GGG is gonna appeal to in the upcoming year until release. These are the retards crying to remove 1 portal in normal maps
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My warrior is omega blessed.
I got hoghunt 2 hand mace in grelwood and the forge maul unique in farms.also perfect ghostwrith. also every single flask upgrade has had instant regen, three times so far.
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>>507795003
to be fair there is almost nothing in the game worth as much seethe as a perfect jeweller's orb
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>>507795003
>u/AdrianPlaysPoE
Not for long!
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Why doesn't it drop the boss atlas? This is level 79 (t15 not irradiated).
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>>507795003
This is what happens when your game hits a big audience, buddy
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>redditors struggling with tier 2 maps
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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as monk should i be going for str or dex?
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>>507795240
look carefully at the stats quarterstaves require
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>>507795240
dex and int
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>>507795240
Retard
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>>507794846
Buy a rope
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>>507795271
>>507795253
dex it is
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>>507795240
STR
>>507795271
>>507795387
morons
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damn i'm more excited about getting exalted drops than gear
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>>507795183
>that beak on the right
kek. shopped?
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kind of nice
projectiles is garbage tho
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>>507795717
>>507795717
>>507795717
>>507795717
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>hasted
>siphons mana
>matrix dodges your projectiles
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>>507795003
>deal with it
-johnathan, mark, chris
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>>507770643
Where are the citadels?
I did so many maps already...
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>>507786369
Yeah, but it's hard. It'd be too strong if it refreshed in its current state, because you'd just have 140% Extra Chaos forever. Even it was only 70% that'd be pretty strong. They'd need to change how mantra worked, and I don't want that.
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>>507795003
What a bitch
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>>507786852
fuck off, I just went back and it's so much fucking better than this dodge slop, jesus christ, it's gonna take another 10 years given that the devs forget what they already solved.
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>>507792520
?
You ran into the trap, skill issue
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>>507773519
Kek you could have sold them for more
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>>507787783
>>507787929
>>507788074
samefag and a newfag kek, incredible



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