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Old >>507770643
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>Monk yells "Silence!"
>Puts down a giant bell
???
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>The top post of poe reddit right now is a retard dying in a tier 2 map
>says the game is as frustrating as league of fucking legends when he's doing tier fucking 2

These are the dumb niggers GGG is gonna appeal to in the upcoming year until release. These are the retards crying to remove 1 portal in normal maps
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>>507795869
>omg 4channers did you hear what reddit's doing???
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This is why you never listen to reddit subhumans.
The VISION is a nice meme but in reality it's absolutely necessary for a game like poe to thrive.
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>chose titan for my crossbow warrior
>right after choosing ascendancy I realise how much fun constant armour break explosions are
>should have gone warbringer
sigh
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>>507795869
>r*ddit screencap
>r*ddit spacing
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>read post complaining about "melee"
>describing problem exclusive to Warrior
Why is this so common?
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>>507795869
>These are the retards crying to remove 1 portal in normal maps
1 portal in maps is almost as retarded a design choice as you are.
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BRRRRAPPP
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>>507795970
Paragraphs ain't reddit spacing nigga
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Gamesux login
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>>507796036
>retard dying is telling me im a retard
its perfect and makes clearing satisfying while it punishes retards like you. Sounds like you should stop being bad
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>>507795958
Don't mind it too much. They "fixed" recursive explosions and never fixed the broken negative armor node. Titan is legitimately better at it
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>enter breach for the first time as Monk
>"This power feels... Familiar?"
>Kill Breachlord for the first time
>Nothing
???
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>>507796148
>t. farming t1 maps with 300% MF gorilla retard
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>>507795869
The game is genuinely hard to a degree that is unenjoyable. People who disagree either rolled something meta or want to act hardcore
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>>507796036
The real problem with the one-portal thing is bosses (the actual bosses where you have to learn mechanics to not get oneshot).
In maps, it's legit a skill issue: don't overdo it if your build is shit, play safe, don't go full retard. If you see your build is lacking, adjust it.
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>>507796210
i have not touched a single build guide and T2 maps are trivial
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>>507795869
>Game that has checkpoints when you die in the campaign makes people to expect the same when they get to endgame
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>>507796148
>its perfect and makes clearing satisfying
Hope you feel satisfied when the only other "people" playing this game are chinese bots
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>>507796210
Why would you not roll meta in the genre designed around rolling meta?
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>retards play like resistances don't exist
>stack damage on damage on damage
>surprised they die in t2
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>>507796301
>The real problem with the one-portal thing is bosses (the actual bosses where you have to learn mechanics to not get oneshot).
Yeah, that's the main problem. Though I wouldn't mind the 1 portal limit getting raised to 3 in normal maps either desu, sometimes you just get caught on a rock and fucked with 3 periodic explosions and volatiles.
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>>507796301
>don't overdo it if your build is shit, play safe, don't go full retard

Yeah right
>take 0 damage 99.9% of the time
>get 1 shot out of nowhere by something I can't even see because the game is visual diarrhea
So much to learn from this experience
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>>507796389
>extra damage as cold
>extra damage as fire
>ele pen
>ele weakness
>oh mah gawd i died?
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holy shit
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>start poe 2
>feels fresh, new, fun
>hard bosses
>hard mobs
>get to maps
>literally exactly plays like poe1
Ehhh
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>>507796389
What am I resisting? Who the fuck would even know?
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>>507796332
>tutorial of the game hand-holds you
>part where you actually start doing end-game stuff doesn't
sounds about right to me
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>>507796181
ive been farming tier 14-16 maps all day

git gud retarded redditor or go back and cry there if you hate 1 portal
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Monkbros?
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>>507796434
Skill issue. Build issue. Gameplay issue.
I have 101 deaths on my shit self cast comet build and 99% of those were fuckups on my end.
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>>507796601
Yeah bro?
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PoE 1 strand has more soul than PoE 2 strand.
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>>507796547
>git gud
>reddit spacing
>i am actually such a hardcore badass anon
I think you might be the redditard here desu
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All the niggers defending how tier 2 maps are actually difficult are exposing themselves as braindead reddit niggers and need to go back
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>D4
- has evadeslop
>PoE2
- has rollslop
>D4
- has simplified crafting mechanics (deeper than poe2 lmao)
>PoE2
- has simplified crafting mechanics (you just slam lmao)
>D4
- soulless repetitive endgame
>PoE2
- soulless repetitive endgame
>D4
- nerfs most fun builds in early access
>PoE2
- nerfs most fun builds in early access
>D4
- listens to r*ddit and panders to the casualization of the game
>PoE2
- listens to r*ddit and panders to the casualization of the game. Reminder that the Sanctum is literally baby mode because Jonathan and GGG listened to r*ddit whiners.
>D4
- dungeon objective: Kill All - usually a medium sized dungeon and actually helps you at the end by teleporting at your location.
>PoE2
- dungeon objective: Kill All Rares - large sized dungeon. You'll have to search for the last rare lol.
>D4
- to fight a pinnacle boss you only need several mats which are easy to obtain. You can retry several times.
>PoE2
- to fight a pinnacle boss you have to do 100 maps. And you only get 1 try. Truly the Dark Souls™ and Elden Ring™ of this generation.
>D4
- deliberately wastes your time by having a gauge bar whenever you do actions. Its been lessened but it needs to be removed.
>PoE2
- deliberately wastes your time by with the slow ass elevator in Ultimatum, super slow lever in maps (which you can't cancel the animation, hope you won't die while turning that lol) and the horrendous load time between zones - this should have been the first thing they patched instead they whack-a-moled everything that was fun.
>D4
- no magic find. Entirely dependent how much you farm, how much you spend time in the Pit.
>PoE2
- your character is scuffed if you can't magic find. Might as well reroll since you won't pick up anything with your non mf character anyway. Btw, GGG removed mf in PoE1 and made it absolutely imperative in PoE2. LoL.

PoE2 gets a free pass for being a shitty game while other ARPGs are trashed for not being perfect. PoE2 fans are literally bootlickers.
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>>507796613
How do i go semi ranged bro?
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Vgh... return...
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"reddit spacing" actually refers to a line break after the quote line when quoting, not line breaks in general
retarded immigrants trying to purity test each other in a vidya thread
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>>507796619
im not hardcore. Im pretty average at the game. Sadly you are so fucking bad at the game you are crying about the game like a redditard

again go back you dumb nigger if you cant handle tier 2
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>>507796516
Seriously, resists do nothing in this game.
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>your delirium on this map is impossible to complete
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>>507796676
Like actually using a bow? I just use Storm Wave/Glacial Cascade
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>>507796619
gitgud really is the only correct response tho.
it's more punishing that poe 1 so gitgud faster.
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>>507796389
yeah i had to explain to my friend why he can't just ignore resistances and stack MF like it's diablo 2. he was getting so pissed off dying in t7s.
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>Expedition boss never spawns
>Never catch even a whiff of an Audience in Ritual
>30/300 simulacrum
AAAAAAAA
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>>507796728
Nah like clearing shit fast with glacial cascade
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>>507795869
What a bitch
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>upgrade curse 2 levels
>-0% resistance, +0.2 seconds duration, +0.1 meters, +21% cost, +27% requirements
shan't
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>>507796789
>>507796789
wheres the uncensored pic of that man
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>>507795869
>rage compared to League of Legends
so game sucks if you're bad
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>>507795869
This literally doesn't have anything to do with difficulty thougbeit? If you drop something that you can only maybe get through 100 hours of farming or spending 5 div and you die before you can pick it up, you're gonna be pissed, no matter if it's in the campagin, tier 1 maps, or tier 16 maps. But you're just shitposting anyway.
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>>507795869
The retards crying about the removal of 1 portal maps are right. There is a reason why HC in PoE 1 is a ghost town. Nobody wants to deal with BS deaths you can't see coming. Nobody wants to deal with the fact that you die, and are not told what you died too. Nobody wants to deal with mobs that shit a bunch of on death effects after you killed them, and punish people for picking up loot. Nobody wants to deal with monsters ramping up attacks from off screen.

Also the current difficulty is fine, yes, you can die in a T1 or a T2 map when you just enter them, it takes time to outscale them. What is not fine is that you get the HC punishment when specifically not playing HC.
Honestly, losing the map, and having to rerun it is almost more punishing than locking the map permanently, since it wipes all bonuses off the map, and now you are forced to take a time penalty since you have to rerun a map empty of any mechanics.

If anything will kill PoE 2 hype, its the fact that they inflated the hours of the campaign by making maps take 30~ min to clear during the campaign, and their "soft" hardcore take on mapping.
If PoE 1 HC with access to insane defences is a ghost town, I can imagine what is going to happen to PoE 2.
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>>507796898
send it to him and ask him
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1 portal per map is fine, but to make it work you also have to remove all the retarded on death effects and ground vomit that does 30% of your hp per tick.
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>>507795869
>These are the retards crying to remove 1 portal in normal maps

I don't hate 1 portal in normal maps, because the campaign trained me to handle the normal mobs and the waystones are abundant.

But the pinnacle bosses with 1 shot mechanics?
>We designed difficult skill based endgame content
>You need to learn the boss moves to beat them
>You only get one try, get one thing wrong and your fragments are gone.

Let's get fucking real. The boss is designed to kill the player several times until I figure it out.

How long does it take to farm the invitations? If it's 5 hours of farming per an attemp and the boss has 5 different one shots I'm supposed to learn - bro that's 25 hours of grinding just to get there. Not 25 hours of bossing, not 25 hours of dodging, rolling and learning the boss gameplay, it's 25 hours to earn the privilege of seeing how the oneshot bullshit works.

Naturally that incentifises me to close the game, open YouTube and see how to build a bullshit cheese build and trivialize the game rather than have an experience overcoming it myself.

POE 2 seems to have learned all the wrong reasons from Demon's Souls, From software themselves moved away from crushing the player's balls with punishments to placing the checkpoints right outside of the boss arena, and EVERYBODY appreciated it.

Did you ever hear anybody praising Demons Souls for the punishments
>Man I love how dying cuts your health in half, sets the world setting to hard and then you have to grind the healing grass again
NOBODY EVER SAID THAT.

If you like punishments so much why don't you rerun the entire campaign for dying in the maps? Oh wait that's just hardcore, go play hardcore without pausing. It's literally already in the game.
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>>507796789
Imagine the disappointment in his father's eyes.
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>>507796389
Resistances literally do not matter. Mathil made it to t15s easily with 10k ES and negative res.
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>>507795717
HC players don't deserve human rights
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>>507797007
>That random mob that shoots the purple blooming shit that perfectly blends into the floor and kills you
thanks game, thanks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMxwfYCG294&t=17s
artillery chads WW@?
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>>507796963
unless you are doing an endgame boss you lose almost nothing when you die
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>level 30
>still using spectral throw
When is duelist meant to move on from using this?
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>>507797112
Are you retarded?
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>>507797098
>Deadeye taking another classes identity and being better at it
lol
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I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than bragging about playing "hardcore" while always making sure to pause every 5 seconds and having your logout macro running 24/7.
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Tyty and Quin are the only real people in this image. By acknowledging the camera they are signaling sentience and self awareness.
Everyone else are NPCs, going about their day in accordance with the code in their circuits.
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>Resistances dont matter, people do well without them with 10k ES
>WTF why is my 2K health character getting oneshot? BRING BACK 6 PORTAL

Fucking retards dont understand that its the infinite ES thats the problem. Resistances are fine with normal health/ES pools
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>>507796963
This game does a very good job making new players quit. In more ways than just these. BTW we still have pinnacle content for the no life fat retards.
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>>507797065
For me it's the retards throwing 3 delayed blast grenades, that shit is absolutely invisible on burning ground.
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>>507796963
So the issue are BS deaths, not 1 life maps. Which I'd agree, particularly with pinnacles.
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how similar is poe1 sanctum to poe2? is there honour resist?
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GGG?
If you put a stack of 3 Distilled Emotions in one of the slots, you lose the other 2 Distilled Emotions. Nice game, I lost 100ex
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>>507797245
how come there's no women there?
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>>507797112
What? If you die, you lost the tablet which if well rolled can be anywhere from 10-20 ex, you also lose all the tower enchantments from the map, as it wipes off any boons like irradiated, breach, boss. And, if you have any maps after it, you are now forced to complete that map, basically giving you a timeout until you clear a white T1 map, which is trivial, but can still take 5~ min or longer with the shit movespeed we have access too.
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What other gay affixes will they copy from Blizzard? Teleport? Wall? Fear?
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>>507797248
>say resistances matter
>no you can easily play while ignoring them entirely
>uhm aktschtually actually was talking about life only
Fucking retard.
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>>507797209
I would bet money that deadeye will be better at ballistas than huntress' dedicated ballista ascendancy, knowing GGG
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can you anoint an item twice?
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i have a confession to make, i didnt change from witch demon form infernalist to sorc stormweaver because i had to wait 60 seconds everytime i entered a map for demon flame to ramp up or for the power infinite gain ramping of mana stacking archmage, no i changed so i could always see the witch/sorc(same actress copyright protected) in succulent, the most skin showing tight fitted nipples pertruding outfits in the game currently all the time never changing into a demon hag with a nake grey ass but coomer of the highest valour order

make no mistake the search continues i will lick every sweat drop from this queen whilst she braps her way through the sun soaked jungles of the Vaal into the nefarious low tier endgame coomer magic will be the final ascendency, the ascension does not end until the cooming ends
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>>507797359
Teleport - Shroud Walker
Wall - There's already an essence that tries to wall you in, but you can phase through the bones, there's also flame wall mods for rares
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Deadeye will always be the best character because movement speed is the best stat.
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>>507797408
nice avatar
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>>507797293
You will never fully get rid of BS deaths. The only way you could, would trivialize the whole game. Especially since the game has a huge delta when it comes to the power of builds. You could spend a lifetime trying to balance this, and with GGGs absolute refusal to give players a death recap, we will never be able to make actual decisions on builds. So they are left with 2 options, neuter the difficulty, or allow for more than 1 failure.
At least give players the option to opt in for something like this.
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>Mathil made it to [...]
Mathil doesn't "make it" to.
Mathil plays in SC. He "bruteforces it" to.
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>>507797483
dont you dare go off topic when i drop a gem of a shitpost like this you absolute gaylord
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>>507797482
b-but once you have like 10 divs you can spec into queen of the forest with any character haha...
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>>507796676
Lightning Invoker with Shattering Palm or Cold Invoker with Storm Wave or Tempest Flurry. You can max speed and go fully into Electrocute with Upheaval, cleaving quarters of the map with Storm Wave all at once, or you can leap between people with Shattering Palm and detonate them into Herald of Ice and Thunder explosions because the Herald nodes on the outer ring are absurd. Lead Me Through Grace gives you more Spirit than you'll ever need.
If you want to splash Flicker, spec into Resonance and Combat Frenzy with Kitoko's Current. Don't rely on Flicker too much, Storm Wave can shred small targets and Bell+Tempest large ones.
Don't fall for the bow memes, they have eyes but cannot see Mount Tai.
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>>507797550
You will never be a woman.
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I tried the cast on freeze shit for myself. It really is shit and useless. So fun getting a trigger once every 2-3 packs. It might be good if you get a billion cast speed so your energy fills up instantly, but I'm not sure it's even possible to get enough unless maybe stormweaver scales arcane surge to a billion.
Nice no fun allowed game.
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>>507797362
yeah if you break the game with infinite ES then nothing really fucking matters. You have so much fucking ES that the only thing that counters it is chaos and theres a counter to that too

When GGG nerfs ES to the ground which they will, resistances will matter. Ive gotten chunked by having lower resistances with normal health pools

btw you are a braindead nigger monkey that should hang
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I better not see your stupid ass complaining about deleted posts again when you avatarfag this fucking hard.
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they should just make attempts a scalable stat
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>>507797482
That means they need to remove the move speed and more projectiles from the ascendancy to balance the game.

I'm all for it, we had far too many deadeyes for far too long, let the other classes breathe for a change.
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>chinese spam wispers me
>invites me to grp

You, chang, get put on my ignore list
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I wanna play a Teleporting Hasted Mana Draining Soul Eating Periodically Invulnerable Proximity Tangible Prowling Shade.
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>monsters are evasive
i think the fuck not
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Is picking up exalts creating value or capturing value?
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On Death effects would be better if they were like the fat firstborns who blow up in the Drowned City desu
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>>507797687
Its korean
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>>507797642
>break the game
I'm playing the game as intended. GGG removed all life nodes on the tree but put in several +50% ES nodes. Obviously they want you to play 10k ES builds. If you are too retarded to play the game according to GGG's vision becasue you're a mouthbreathing moron, that's on you.
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>>507796210
The game is so fucking easy with any build if you learn how to play the fucking game. SSF is unironically easier than trade because you're forced to pay attention to items and keep getting incremental upgrades. You brainrotted tradefags don't know how to do anything except corpse rush content hoping this attempt will be the one and try to farm a few exalts in hopes to buy shit leftovers so you're able to do a t1 map.
You're a fucking retard.
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>>507797668
i understand it now because he's not actually posting anime, just gachaslop
probably some autistic flip
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>>507797728
Is Soul Eater actually in the game for mobs? I will cry.
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dreadnought is bad on monk
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>>507797728
>league where you play as a rare monster fighting against player characters
Would be absolutely ludokino teeming with SOVL.
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>>507797940
it is but storm wave hits over bridges
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>>507797871
I haven't seen one yet, but there's an Atlas node that adds it.

Yes you can select the Atlas node to add soul eater to the breach mobs.
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okay vg, unironic
from best
to
worst make your list of

POE1, POE2, Grim Dawn, LEpoch, VRising, D2(unmodded), D4, TLInfinite
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>>507796963
I am so tired of you r*dditors coming here.
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>>507797858
Are all SSF trannies this schizophrenic?
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>>507798039
>poe 1
shit
>poe 2
shit
>anything else
haven't played
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>>507797858
catastrophic meltie
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>>507798039
POE2 > POE1 > D2
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>>507798039
D2
PoE1
Grim Dawn
PoE2
VRising
LEpoch
TLInfinite
D4
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CLASS TIER LIST NOW
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>>507798174
retard
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>>507798174
My build > yours
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Do not ask for feetpics from the witch.
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>>507797007
I don't think one portal is bad, I like the idea behind it. Survivability should be a consideration in SC. I don't think three random deaths are actually super egregious either, they exist, but they always have.

The real issue is that the actual mapping system is cancer. It only works with failure state, they can't let you keep nodes on failure or you could reset maps intentionally to exploit good nodes so you have to lose everything to incentivize travel. But because of this any failure is massively punished. It doesn't matter if you rarely die because if you die one every 50 maps, chances are very likely that it's going to be on the map that matters the most. You basically optimize maps right now by picking a direction going hard with shit waystones, clearing unrewarding nodes and towers so you can juice up the good ones and make them as dangerous as possible, and then you're left risking losing all investment to random shit if you fail
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I'm never going to forget the first time I played Elden Ring™, I was fighting Godrick™ and just barely managed to beat him.

Then his on death effect one tapped both me and my summon! it was revolutionary, visceral, and dynamic. Also for some reason I couldn't re-enter the boss arena afterwards and fetch my runes, but that was actually a good thing. The game would be too boring and easy if I had too many runes (and levels!)
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>>507798039
D2 > POE1 > Poch >>> D4 > POE2 > VRising > Grim Yawn
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>>507797347
>5ex and 3mins to reclear
its like you are making my point
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>>507798039
>excluding D2 mods
coward
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>>507798249
You haven't even played PoE 2 yet retard.
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>>507798192
you've been in poe2 generals for days now dude
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>>507798312
retard
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does this work on demon form witch or no ?
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>>507795717
my build is fun now that I spent some divs and I'll try to see everything that I can reach in current league, but I'll never make another cahrcter or play another league in poe2 again
Most of things I experienced while levelling and in earlier maps was such a chore that I never want to experience again
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>>507798340
No weapons
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>>507797279
Walking down a hall deleting everything I see before I fire a bunch of shots into an eternal knight that reflects my hits as the only damage type I don't mitigate through three layers and killing me before I notice....
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>>507797861
shut up you faggots holy shit you dont say a fucking word about any other picture on this fucking general you cry baby bitches you dont deserve to be on fucking 4chan when you are crying about fucking anime fucking picture you inbred retards

>>507798236
what unique boots are they lol?
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>login poe2
>global is currently responding to either elon musk bait or colossus bug bait
>come to poo2g
>everyone sperging about some plebbit pasta or blatant fud bait
>every single day
>for 3 fucking weeks
I'm fucking TIRED bros
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>>507798270
>5ex and 3 min to reclear
Oh, conveniently ignoring the part where you lost the other 10-20ex map, and all the tower enchantments on the map? Sasuga, never let the inconvenient truth get in the way of your feelings.
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>>507798174
Ranger (GGG's communal cumdumpster tier) > massive, unbridgeable powergap > Sorc (needs very few stats, can get more MF) > Monk (heralds are giga busted, can use them the best after Ranger) > Merc (ebin 200 div gemling) >Witch (Demon Form is good, everything else is shit) > massive, unbridgeable powergap > Warrior (lol, lmao).
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>>507798309
whatever you say buddy
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>>507798397
>Blurry screenshot taken from a stream
ok dude.
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>>507798379
Corpsewade, decompose skill.
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>>507798371
this is a shield though, so its works ?
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>>507798396
>Sorc (needs very few stats, can get more MF)
* is unfun needs a lot of currency to get online
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>>507798449
Shields are weapons.
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>>507798236
Can I ask for teethpics
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>>507798440
inb4
>metafag
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>>507798475
fuck, ive been leveling an infernalist and planning on using this
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So what explains reddits love for Diablo 2 when Diablo 2 has all the """"flaws"""" poe 2 has? It has a lower loot count, its extremely punishing on death, magic find is a huge thing in the game, and hell has immunities that makes certain builds obsolete while also making the game harder? Melee is actually terrible in diablo 2 without twink gear and classes are even more inbalanced

Diablo 2 has everything reddit hates about poe 2 but with worse combat and other issues that are actually problems and yet reddit will updoot how le heckin wholesome and great D2 is but cry when Poe 2 uses its punishing but rewarding structures

explain

fucking explain
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>>507798039
POE1 > POE2 = Grim Dawn >D2(unmodded),
> LEpoch > TLInfinite > D4

If anything I might score GD a little higher than PoE 2 atm. Since PoE 2 just seems so much slower paced as a game, but without the intent of GD, where in GD you can actually target farm monsters for some items instead of all loot being random.
D2 is just a little too small at this point as a game.
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Why are SSFfags always the stupidest and most obnoxious posters. HCfags are always chill
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>>507798518
Taken from mathils latest video
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>do Delirium for the first time
>drops 2 Distilled Ires and nothing else
uh
thanks i guess
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>>507798580
HCfags are like SSF (hehe they'll tell you ;))), except they only appear when SSFfags appear begging everyone to pay attention to how much more hardcore than SSFfags they are
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>>507797268
No one gives a fuck whether new players like you stay or quit. The only ones who pretend like they do are GGG and they will never put in the amount of effort you need them to.
So you should read the writing on the wall and realize that GGG sucks at catering to low-aspiring, no build planning, might-finish-campaign-this-league-if-I-play-all-week people and take it as your queue to quit while you're ahead of 1.0, because once that happens, all further expansions will be endgame and pinnacle focused for the no life fat retards.
If you don't believe me there's 10+ years of patch notes you can read on pathofexile.com.
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I started a Stormweaver after getting bored of Titan mapping at level 91. How much do you think they'll nerf spark?
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>>507798635
あなたをファック
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>>507798702
since its unfun but apparently busted
a lot
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>>507797758
It's contributing to inflation. Put them back where you found them.
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>>507798702
LE SPARK ISNT LE DAMAGE DEALER!
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>>507798554
it's one of those things the new generation just picks up and carries the torch without ever playing the game. d2's endgame was 95% afking while a bot runs hell baal for exp and 3% collecting uniques you will never use or getting PK'd outside of town and 2% rushing for forge and getting scammed in the modern day it's just a straight up dogshit game and poe1 walks all over the entire genre with no competition
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>>507798379
holy sexo
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>>507798309
I agree with that guy. On death effects add literally nothing positive to the game.
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Is there any way to make minions revive faster past the 25% and the 15% over the passives tree?
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POE2 = trash. worse than d4.
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>>507798813
If you have an undead cleric? He's supposed to heal and revive them as well.
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>>507798651
Checks out
>Do Delirium for the first time in PoE1
>2 clusters that got filtered out and a Chaos Orb
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Holy shit even hyperbuffed flickerstrike is fucking trash. Spamming a strike is more dps
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>>507798571
>If anything I might score GD a little higher than PoE 2 atm.
while i appreciate the meme, grim dawn isn't a good game. it was dated on release and time hasn't been kind to it.
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>>507798810
Not having fun with Gemling or Titan, bro? Why are you leveling a Stormweaver you stinky meta chaser..
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>>507798702
Probably they will absolutely dumpster its defences. I predict the ES ammy nerf potentially completely disabling its current effect. Around 30% scaling of archmage. And potentially making MoM not 100% again so you are forced to pick up extra nodes, although this I am the least certain off.
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>>507798889
Grim Dawn is great if you play it the way it's meant to be played. An actual SSF spreadsheet simulator. It's unmatched in the genre of 90% of your playtime being done outside of the game
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I die a lot as monk.......
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>>507798908
>>507798810
bros just switch your gemling to artillery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cixBvAwLCqI
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>>507798908
I enjoy jank, none of the characters you see except for the storm weaver were meta. Really liked titan and gemling, but I want to test as much as I can before the next large patch drops.
Also even the stormweaver I tried playing as a arc spammer and cast on shock (its so fucking bad now).
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>post character select thinking it validates anything you have to say
>it's 100% shitcrow tradies
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>>507798039
>>507798271
D2 isn't even good anymore without a mod like project diablo 2. you're literally playing it for the campaign experience now which is super boring after 20+ years all so you can do nothing but baal cow pit cs runs for no reason but to do those runs faster.
torchlight 1 > poe 2 3-5 years from now > poe 1 > poe 2 now > d2 modded > shit > all others
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>>507797298
imo it's even easier, at least on a ranged build. in poe 1 those battleground rooms could end you fast if you fucked up enough on the last floor. doesn't feel like there's anything that bad in this one. traps are more avoidable. sloproll helps a lot. honour resist is very strong and the game shits out relics so you'll get good ones quickly and you have most of the slots unlocked at the start.
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I don't think my Phys Bleed Witch is going to work.
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>>507799037
Notice how nobody is posting high lvl hardcore characters :^). Time to whip out that photoshop boy.
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Which would increase my damage on Storm Wave more, 12% attack damage or 15% lightning damage?
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>>507799037
post your hardcore character, and don't post quinn's character select screen like you did last time.
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>>507798915
Grim Feast is getting taken out back and shot in the fucking head multiple times.
Several unique are going to have their head held underwater for 5 minutes.
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>>507799123
Since the game has launched every single time someone defending the difficulty or progression has always, without exception, been revealed to be way behind the curve when they showed their character. It's always players with stubbornness as their best quality and I have never seen an exception
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why am i not getting power charges for charged staff?
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>>507798915
>ES ammy
I'm new, what's that?
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>>507799090
>you're literally playing it for the campaign experience now
I dunno, even after all these years. The campaign feels really nice in D2. I still play trough it just to take a character with the same build from lvl 1 to hell baal. Just did a summoner necro before PoE 2 dropped and it was pretty fun.
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>>507799261
post characters. I'll wait :)
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>>507798518
>stormweaver and deadeye
>nothing else
>neither are even in 90s
Actual ADHD guide-follower. Can only shake my head at the state of this "player"base.
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How are necromancers/infernalists doing in maps? Do minions have enough damage output?
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>>507799123
i haven't played hardcore since whatever league they stopped doing hc/sc leagues. the odd campaign run or race, but hc isn't very fun. and trade is dead so it's ssf, and if i'm playing ssf i'm not wasting my time in hardcore.
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>>507799215
>>507799123
there are 2 warbringers at my level on ladder so no thanks, stay malding tho kek
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what in the fuck is that
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>>507799375
Breach
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>>507798702
>How much do you think they'll nerf spark?

Into the fucking ground, because Witchunter exists.
>Decimation strike takes off 35% hp
>Culling strike kills a white mob at 30
>Spark Witchunter causes chain mob pack explosions across the entire map
>The more mob density the better
>Witchunter abilities are available on items.

The elephant in the room is that spark is antithetical to their idea of making meaningful and methodical combat, it's POE 1 brainrot 1 button doomholding they are trying to move away from.
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>>507798518
How the fuck are you only that far along in 200 hours
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>>507799331
the deadeye is artillery and the stormweaver is lightning warp. You project way too much. artillery is one of the most off meta builds imaginable.
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>>507799423
>meaningful and methodical combat
That doesn't exist in maps though
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>>507799289
I did a bolt paladin in the latest pd2 season. I cleared hell but I quit before I switched to the real build I was going. Got bored. Doubt I'll ever play that game again.
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>>507799398
what does it do? i stepped into it and it spawned a bunch of small mobs and then shrank back into itself and vanished
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>>507799261
Oh shit, we are taking the goalposts from maps, and endgame issues all the way to progression? Whew, warn me before moving them this quickly, I will be getting whiplash.
The balance is still shit BTW. Was coaching a friend trough the campaign a bit. He as you said it fell behind the curve but still wanted to play SSF. So he spent time grinding multiple levels to reset the vendors. Picking up every single weapon he could, gambling on ever one that he could find, and after multiple hours not getting an upgrade.
This is the state of the game. Yes, you can get lucky. But in PoE 1 if he did that, he would 100% run across an essence that he could use to get an OK piece of gear. He would have vendor recipes to offset RNG. In PoE 2, sometimes you will just get unlucky, and there is literally nothing you can do besides trade.

Oh, and during that time, he managed to grind enough gold for like 6 gamble attempts. What a joke.
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This is kitava
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>>507799457
because I only play my own builds, extremely off meta. see the post below yours, had to do a lot of testing to make artillery good in t16. also some time is afk from leaving poe open overnight but you're probably just going to say that's not true.
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i have a bloodmage at 90, a stormweaver at 80, an invoker at 80, a warrior at 71, and an infernalist at 51.
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>>507799423
Man I wouldn't be so bothered by WH being a bottom tier ascendancy with only half of its nodes working practically if it wasn't also so fucking easy to steal their best node
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>>507798667
How to tank your business 101
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>>507799518
>That doesn't exist in maps though

That's a problem they need to fucking fix.
I like playing the normal acts until my power spiked in cruel and the engaging gameplay degenerated into doomholding like it's POE1 all over again.
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>>507799261
the difficulty is fine enough outside of some balancing issues. burning ground and strongbox lightning comes to mind.
my atlas is bugged so not enjoying progression.
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>>507799579
And I have a job
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I love dying because all the fog on the floor hides the fucking walls and I get stuck
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>>507799641
my condolences
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>>507795869
>These are the dumb niggers GGG is gonna appeal to in the upcoming year until release
no, they aren't, it's fucking GGG they are autistic have you seen their track record with poe1? it takes them literal years to fold on their ideals.
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>>507799624
>and the engaging gameplay
Is this a joke? How is it engaging to spam the same 3 or 4 skills over and over from the start of the fucking game to the end?
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>>507799280
You can pick up CI, EB and MoM which means all the ES gets turned into mana, and it acts as your lifepool. After that you equip the everlasting gaze, unique ammy, which turns 30% of your mana into ES (which scales of your passive tree)
Its the bis for mana stackers if you want nothing but defences, since it just gives you like 5k ES from 1 slot.
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>>507799586
Empyrean plays spark Witchunter with 1000% magic find.

The WH clear is actually insane.
I think it's getting nerfed too.
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>>507799732
elden ring is jump+r2 for 60 hours and people treat it like the best game of the past decade
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when does monk finally go all darth maul? i am squishy as fuck, icestrike sometimes fucks up targeting
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>>507799363
Too afraid to even hint at the level.
>2 warbringers on my level
Oh shit, there are 2 lvl 25 players. Huge if true lil slimy faggot.
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I was thinking about trying a silly build where I throw out frost bombs and sit behind raise shield until it blows up. Pair it with magma barrier. Frost bomb already blows up all packs instantly. I see people doing some meme magma barrier builds and it's actually pretty good. Not sure what ascendancy and defense types would make the most sense for this.
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>>507799827
See if you can figure out the difference genius
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>>507799793
>spark Witchhunter
Sounds interesting, might take a look at mrfilthydreads for once
>1000% MF
Actually how? Not interested in doing it, but how in the fuck are you getting anywhere near this much on one character?
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>>507799539
Creates an expanding circle in which Breach monsters and clasped hands will be revealed (they spawn at the borders). Killing them and opening clasped hands gives loot, of which catalysts (quality modifiers for rings and amulets), breach rings and breach splinters are unique to it. 300 Breach splinters are needed to fight the Breach pinnacle boss.
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>>507799732
>spam the same 3 or 4 skills
4 times as engaging as spamming one skills
>How
Because the limited player power in the normal acts forces you to backtrack, kite, roll and chug the health flask when hit.

That beats the endgame of holding down one button and picking the orbs until you're sick if them.
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>>507799336
Minions are OP as fuck, watch the Ventrua vids or others.
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>>507799363
>can't post hardcore characters
every.
single.
time.
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>>507799943
>Minions are OP as fuck
HHAAHHAHAHAAH no AHAHAHHAHA
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Trade is completely fucked. I've sent over 300 messages in the past 2 days and have had zero responses. I'm convinced they're all bots.
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>>507799901
>Actually how? Not interested in doing it, but how in the fuck are you getting anywhere near this much on one character?
There's a uniques shield that gives %more MF for each soul core, and Empyrean got one with 3 sockets.
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>>507799943
>Minions are OP as fuck
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>>507799943
>actual literal streamersaid post
G R I M
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>>507800061
>>507800013
I keep hearing really mixed things about minions. are they good or not?
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>>507799793
Empyrean party grinded his WH into an extremely cracked set up. The ascendancy is workable unlike acolyte and has good things going for it but it's very much bottom 3
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>>507799932
>4 times as engaging as spamming one skills
Yeah except not really

>That beats the endgame of holding down one button and picking the orbs until you're sick if them.
This game sucks but this isn't why. It's the entire point of the game. It's an RPG, you're supposed to be making a powerful character. Using more skills does not = more interesting gameplay, if its the exact same shit over and over. You think like a retarded WoW player.
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>>507800013
He is right tho, they are absolutely broke at higher levels, the only thing balancing them out is the absolute dogshit QoL. With them randomly dissapearing and having to respawn if you walk too far from them, them getting stuck on doors or straight up locked out of boss arenas.
And you can scale them without losing MF slots on your gear, which is insane. Remove those QoL issues, and barely anyone will play anything but minions.
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>>507800113
They're okay
Middle of the pack
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>>507798039
poe1 > poe2 > grim yawn > d2 > TL infinite >>>>>>> LE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d4
poe1 is the better game right now but poe2 just feels so much better to play and it will overtake poe1 when it's fully out
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Got slowed in a map and the slow didn't go off after the debuff expired. Had to go to the hideout and back to fix it.
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>>507799623
GGG has stayed afloat on this philosophy for a decade, catering to the people who actually play their game on the long term and they will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
GGG is getting rich doing this and over the years has expanded from an indie company to a studio that employs hundreds of people in office.
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i am
not
getting
charges
on charged staff
why
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>>507799932
Half the issues people have with the 3rd act is that the cruel act "power spike" is how you should be playing by the time you get to the 3rd act.

It's always going to end like this by design.
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>>507799793
>spark Witchunter
damn, that's actually a good idea. good place on the tree for proj speed and the lucky lightning damage too.
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How do I fix my defenses so that I stop getting pinned down in corners and dying?
I can kill most things quickly but not when I'm getting chain-smacked into walls. I've bricked every one of my T4 maps, 3/4 of my T3 ones, and god knows how many nodes and I'm sick of it.
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>>507798702
it doesnt matter how much you nerf spark, Archmage and mana stacking is where the damage comes from so it doesnt matter what they do a new spell will just replace it if it clears better its what happens when you introduce infinite scaling in a 12 month league people will be drawn to it as its a long term progression compared to everything else, stat stacking is another
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>>507798667
>as your queue
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>>507800113
SRS is great
Regular minions are great until you do any mechanic that drops shit on your head. So breaches, most of the pinnacle bosses, delirium fog, expeditions, etc etc.
Then if you're not using SRS they all suck ass.
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>>507800132
WH bot 3? No fucking way. Its got too many good things for that. It has 10% to explode for 100% life which is retarded, and a bunch of other dmg amps that range from ok to great, but most of all, they are applicable to pretty much any build. The real losers would be ascendancies like chronomancer or bloodmage, which have to jump trough too many hoops to make shit work. Mind you, they still can work, but nowhere near as well as others.
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>>507800302
It's fucking great how they don't have Faster Hit Recovery in this game isn't it
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>>507800349
que?
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>>507800302
Kill them before they kill you.
What class is this even?
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>>507800013
Clueless

>>507800061
Clueless

>>507800103
I provided it as a reference point so that he can look up which minions to use etc.

The quality of this thread is really in the gutter. People are just posting random shit with zero reasoning.
I'm starting to suspect some of you aren't even human posters.
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>>507800389
I was using gas explosions from snipers all the way to T15s, and on a 5 link they still ended up 1 tapping all packs, and 1-3 tapping rares unless they were resistant. Mind you, my gear was pretty mid. Not even a max +2 scepter nor any lvls from ammy, on a base lvl 17 gem.
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>>507800302
>0 armor
>0 evasion
>0 energy shield
>0 block

at least your resistances are okay but how the FUCK did you get this far with this shit? Do you just have no equipment and defensive nodes on your tree???
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>>507800113
i league started them, game launch stared? whatever.
they are good enough, with spectres they would be much better.
biggest problem is no convocation and fucked ai and hitboxes. anything with doors you will have a bad time, either the ai fucks them from going through the door, or they bodyblock themselves.
most of your time in maps is spent waiting for them to revive because you go too far and they despawn.
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>>507800487
>Minions are op trust me bro!
>Youre clueless bro!
Yeah nah fuck off
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>>507800579
>most of your time in maps is spent waiting for them to revive because you go too far and they despawn.
I feel like that would drive me nuts
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>>507800302
Fix what, you have fucking nothing
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>>507800487
You are literally taking your opinions from streamers and regurgitating them here and you say the quality of the thread is poor? What the fuck is wrong with you.
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What a fucking joke. The third floor boss was 50x easier than the two teracotta bosses.

They need to tweak this fucking shithouse so much.
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>>507797061
Mathil is used to playing with 20k ehp.
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>>507800712
The teracotta twins are designed by a mongrel. They have 0 hp, but if you can't burst them down, it shits up the whole fucking arena.
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so after this fiasco do you still believe in john and his team to create a fun game?
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>>507800712
The terracotta bosses are easy if you just take them down equally and don't let it smough and ornstein you
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>>507800403
It only really has decimating strike which is inconsistent and has use limits, explosions which are good but don't work on bosses and sorcery ward which is very flawed and prone to breaking

Concentration does basically nothing or actively hurts you in most circumstances and culling strike was nerfed from PoE1 to not work in most circumstances. WH was a very popular ascendancy but it's actually second from the bottom on ladder and performing close to the ground in every other metric.
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how retarded am i still using this at lvl 38
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I'm in this weird spot where I want to spend a few div on rare gear with more hp/res, but also I want to save up for a queen of the forest and evasion stacking gear, and the more I spend on stuff that isn't related to a QotF build, the further away buying QotF feels. but at the same time I feel like I need to be stronger to farm divs for QotF in the first place, ya know?
anyone know this feel?
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>>507800594
Minion builds were the first to clear top level content. Most of the top HC ladder is minions.

>>507800663
You didn't play minions, I played minions. My opinion is infinitely more valuable than yours.
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>>507800712
I think the idea is that you would have to use the platforms at the right time to be safe since the quicksand would cause you to repeatedly get hit by her attacks and then deal with the traps the platforms activate afterwards
yea nobody cares everyone just keeps moving in the quickstand so it's never an issue unless you're a slammer
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>>507800156
>making a powerful character
Synthetik has an enormous power scaling, plays exactly like a crossbow build in POE2 except it also scales the enemy threat and speed and all the overpowered bullshit like bouncing bullets can also hit and kill you.

That makes for an escalating tension throughout the game, you grow more powerful but you also have to play faster and more aggressively while also trying to not kill yourself with your own shit.


>>507800156
>Using more skills does not = more interesting gameplay

If they have good synergy it is, think about DOTA
>Set up
>Pay-off
>FUCK YEAH - DOPAMINE

Puling off a cool play feels good, something as basic as stunning the boss with normal attacks to charge up an enormous Hammer Of Gods with hourglass and all the finisher support gems and oneshot it

This kind of gameplay feels good, you planned something and pulled it off, you feel smart and cool, that's a fun game
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>>507800462
Monkey
Most whites die in a couple of Storm Waves

>>507800517
>equipment
Work in progress but I haven't been able to afford anything with a high amount of res and any sort of real defenses
>defensive nodes
Not really but I've thought about ripping out my crit nodes to get a couple of defensive ones since the crit doesn't seem incredibly useful
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>>507800879
>Minion builds were the first to clear top level content. Most of the top HC ladder is minions.
Yeah because in HC minions shield you, their damage is shit and theyre buggy as fuck
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>>507800879
>Most of the top HC ladder is minions.
because they're safe, not fast. you pausecore retards love spending 30 minutes on a map and then bragging about your playtime
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>>507791000
Look at this amazingly difficult craft(I slammed the next 3 ex I found)
I did bros
This feels amazing(meme)
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>>507799943
>Minions are OP as fuck
*SRS is OP as fuck
Arsonists are a very very very distant second.

The rest of the traditional army fucking sucks. Absent of SRS, minions would be in the fucking gutter.
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>>507800783
>>507800797
I'm able to kill them both at once. But they can sync perfectly and hit you. Now that I know that movement speed trivialized them they're easy.

>>507800887
She is forced to surface if you just move far away enough lul. Melee is truly cucked.
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>>507800984
>>507801003
The damage is fantastic and it goes online without requiring expensive crafts. You genuinely never played a minion build in poe2.

>>507801060
SRS was only OP for campaign levelling, and even pre-nerf, its main purpose in lategame was spreading exposure.

>The rest of the traditional army fucking sucks
You suck. All ranged skeletons are strong.
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>>507801236
post a single videos of skeletons clearing t16 very fast and I will concede.
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>>507797370
my life for a soft faced flat gf like this PLEASE IM TIRED OF SEEING TALL BLOCKY BLONDES
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>>507801236
Great bait
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>>507801236
first
>All ranged skeletons are strong.
Nobody uses them. You don't use them either.

Secondly
>SRS was only OP for campaign levelling
...?
Do you even know why Cast on Minion Death is literally in the "absolutely going to get fucking nerfed" tier when paired with SRS?
Because you're sounding like somebody who doesn't know what they're talking about.
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>>507800817
Culling strike at its worst is still 5% more dmg to everything. Decimating strike as well at its worst its 5% more dmg vs everything, on average it takes 17% of hp away from any monster. And No mercy would add that damage as another more dmg multiplier up to 30%. Sure the numbers themselves don't look as impressive since its multiple smaller ones, but the way its dmg amps work by reducing enemy max hp its honestly really good.
Sure you can't pick up everything, but at the same time you can easily supplement a build where its lacking. Need clear? Get explosions. Need single target? Get decimating+concentration. That pretty much halves the boss hp between the 5-30% initial strike + 5% culling + 30% more dmg based on missing concentration which should be maxed thanks to decimating strike.
You do get screwed a bit by bosses with invuln phases.
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cheesing with CoMD/barrier invocation + summon raging spirits mogs every other summoning build in existence. I feel sorry for retards actually using skeletons
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>>507797248
Bro I'm in t11 maps with less than 2k total HP and uncapped resistances are still not a problem.
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is there a list of uniques worth more than 1div?
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I've realized no one here actually wants to discuss the game. All you want to do is farm yous and fight. I didn't think it could get worse than other places, but here we are.
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>>507801318
Don't ask me to post videos when I literally already listed a youtuber and you retards pounced on me for it.

>>507801426
>Nobody uses them
They're literally the core of minion builds, the melee skeletons are meh unless you explode them.

Secondly, I'm not talking about CoMD, I'm talking about using minions for minions, which are strong as fuck.
If you retards want to actually include CoMD/detonate builds as minion builds, then I don't know how anyone can claim minions are not strong.
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>>507801564
That is not a minion build however. Why compare a trigger spell build to a minion build? What is next, comparing a hammer of the gods vs a bow build?
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>>507797245
Imagine the smell
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>>507801689
Astramentis, Headhunter, Pillar, Temporalis

There's only a handful
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>>507801736
it's literally a SRS build. wouldn't work without them.
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>>507795869
The vast majority of PoE players are genuinely retarded. There is a small subset of smart autists but just look at this general if you want a clue about the playerbase.
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>>507801564
>"summoning" build
>summons are just clacky aesthetics
lol. might as well say that + anything is the best (insert build name) ever
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>>507801736
>>507801820
What's next, you're going to say the cast on shock spark builds aren't actually spark builds because something else gets triggered with CoS?
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>>507801475
This.
Witchunter gets like 20% more damage and explosions from his ascendancy.

Blood Mage gets fucked. Having played these two classes WH feels alright.
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>>507800850
Very. Why would you use it? It offers nothing a crappy rare can't beat.
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>>507801975
changin as we speak
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>>507801894
>put on a shield to shield charge once every minute
>it's now also the best melee build in the game, and the best spellcaster since it uses fire wall, and the best poisoner because you decide to slot poison on SRS for fun and the best bow build because you used LA+LR to level up, you also cast a warcry once by accident while drunk, so it's a better warcry user than a warbringer
based GODbuilder
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>>507801913
Blood mage honestly isn't that bad. It just has one build. Crit.
And there's a lot of people coping on it's spell leech in the same way that there were people doing everything with Chonk except playing him as a physical mana leecher.
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>>507801771
the surrender, qotf, howa(boss drop)
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I haven't used minions since I was like lvl 5. But I want to remember that you could increase the amount of them, even if it's a skill from a weapon..?
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just paid 2ex and then it was a downgrade when i equipped it
frustrating
i wish you could see actual total values ingame like you can on the trade site but i know i'm still a retard
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i don't see why they made greater essences so rare when they are strictly worse than poe1 essences
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>>507798667
They'll care when people like me who gave them over two grand from whaling over the last five years or so don't even login to play their shitty sequel. My opinion is worth 70 new players. They lost me as a customer for now with this shitty game. I will take pride in not giving Jonathan and Tencent a cent and you can seethe about that all you want.
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>>507802161
skills you can
not weapon
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>>507800817
>It only really has decimating strike
So wrong it hurts.
Decimating strike completely replaceable by cheap gloves (don't pretend you have HoW&A) so you can easily just not take it.

>Concentration does basically nothing or actively hurts you in most circumstances
How does it hurt you?

Anyway the strongest part of witch hunter is sorc ward and it's what makes the class worth choosing. Explode/cull/conc nodes/weapon swap memes are just the cherry on top.
Also pretending cull is bad is absurd. In any sort of lategame setting, you aren't seriously cucked by the new cull mechanics because any reasonable build has multihit, heralds and other mechanics to trigger it.
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>play poe2
>It sucks
>Go back and play diablo 2
>It sucks too
Wtf arpgs have always been bad???
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Is this only for random mobs or bosses too?
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>>507795717
>pic
This but SPH
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>>507802604
All bosses are unique monsters
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>>507802509
D2 was good 20 years ago.
poe 2 is good enough now and will only get better every update which will be frequent.
poe 1 will still get updates that I bet will be pretty good.
We really have nothing to complain about.
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>>507802509
They're great when you have all the free time in the world, but once you have a job you realize how much of a waste of time it is killing the same mobs ad infinitum
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>go back in time
>still don't save the wounded man
come on bro
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Hadrcore fags always gets disproportional attention and hype, due to an actual insanity of their achievements in ARPGs.
Are they to blame for GGGs retardation with 1 death maps?
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>>507801787
Its a cast on trigger build. You don't scale a single stat associated with minions.
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>>507802836
how fat do you have to be to write a post like this
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>>507801894
Correct, because what you trigger your cast with does not matter, the focus is on triggering the cast.
Just like how CoC builds are well named after the CAST ON CRIT, and not after what people use to trigger it. Since the whole point of the build revolves around a specific mechanic. Same way in this case a cast on minion death is not a minion build, you don't care about minion stats, you don't care about minion scaling, its just a means to and end, and the end is to trigger a skill. Thus it is cast on trigger build.
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>found an atziri's devotion
>corrupted it on a whim, was going to trash it
>got 2% life regen
>put it in my sale tab, didn't even set a price
>get swarmed with offers for multiple divs
wait what the fuck
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>>507802050
Its not the absolute bottom tier, but what makes it bad is that it requires all 4 ascendancies before you actually start feeling like a proper ascendancy, and you are forced into a tiny niche that has to work around downsides, while everyone else only gets upsides from their ascendancies.
Honestly, all bloodmage needs to do is to rework or move the first node that they force you to pick.
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I have to undo passive points for BOTH weapons sets in order to be able to do two separate skill sets..?

>>507802478
Ah, that was it.
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I don't want to find and buy gears with iir anymore...
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>>507803043
atziri's disdain*
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is there any point to actually clearing maps outside of quest progress
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>>507803043
atziri's disdain is BIS for bloodmage detonate dead. you won the corruption lottery bro
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>>507802836
No, GGG being dumb, out-of-touch retards who cobbled together an endgame in seven months and had to make it seem like it's not a shallow mess of incompetence get the blame. We already had the communities split for years with zero issues.
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>>507802050
>It just has one build. Crit.

Here's a better build.
Same exact build but with unascended Witch.

>But 15% spell crit chance
Bonestorm has 15% BY FUCKING DEFAULT, literally gets nothing from the ascendancy but the life cost of spell casting is brutal.

The only real Blood Mage build I'd Corpse Explosion and ONLY because you can use the gem at low level so that the mana and life cost doesn't scale up.
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>get charged staff
>get combat frenzy
>get both herald of ice and thunder
this is sick lol
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>>507803158
>gears
based vtumor eslGOD
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>>507801787
lets be real SRS is a damage over time ranged fire spell
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>>507803385
are there non-undead minions?
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hello, can someone please link me a guide for an infernalist build? I appreciate it
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>>507803593
You don't pick up the 15% crit chance node on most blood mage builds. You should be going crit multi and ES = life if anything. At least those are the strongest ascendancy nodes you can grab. The 15% critchance base is more of a meme imo.
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>>507803738
just search for kripps
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>>507803673
i unironically think they should make SRS into a spell, remove any minion benefits, make it only scale based on spell benefits like any other spell. this means SRS actually makes sense to use with high level fire spells, and summoners are no longer forced to spam low level fire spells to deal minion damage which is completely retarded. it would make summoners suck, but in that case, just buff the other summons so they feel good without SRS
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>>507803689
Infernalist dog? Specters also come to mind when implemented, and later on druid summons.
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which monk staff bases are good to crat on?
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>>507803043
Atziri, Atziri
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Any other fire skill worth using over firewall to summon raging spirits? Visual clarity is ass with it.
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What are the best ways to generate power charges
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>>507803807
Yeah, but how strong are they really? Crit multi is all over the tree and item modifiers, survivability is nice of course but good luck sustaining the 500life spells.
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>>507804113
>firewall is so god damn noisy that i didn't even notice that SRS are constantly clacking their teeth until 10 hours in
lol
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>>507802509
>play poe 2
>realize it sucks
>but it has now also bricked my experience for all other arpgs too and I can't go back to them
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Anyone else find it strange that you have to invest passives and support gem slots in making the crossbow to NOT be jank?
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>>507797370
faggot posting a faggot lol
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should I even bother buying a min roll 40% ingenuity belt for 9divs? even a min roll one would mog basically any rare belt I could find but it seems like a dumb investment
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>>507804291
It's the node tax if you want ro play with this weapon
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>>507804291
This really applies to most skills but I kind of get your point, it's a pain to get those nodes if you start on anything other than merc.
The mana costs can be kind of ass too depending on your setup.
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>>507804291
Wait until you find out you have to invest passives and support gem slots to make maces not jank but the catch is the passives make it even more jank and there are no supports to unjank it.
Whoever came up with minimum attack time needs to be shot.
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>>507804272
then the game doesn't suck?
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>>507804291
they do that with everything. just look at skill duration, it's 6 seconds across the board. they made curse aoe dogshit to try and tempt you into curse aoe nodes. it's the weight, the vision, the friction, etc
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You don't get the passive block from a shield if it's on the unequipped weapon slot right?
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>>507804583
>if you want to increase your damage, you also make your attack slower
What the fuck were they thinking. Not going to invest in this bullshit.
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>>507804291
>allocate every crossbow reload speed
>get crossbow reload speed jewels
>invest in attack speed
>somehow it still takes more than an eternity for your crossbow to reload
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>>507804793
I believe the person who said they just copy pasted tribute costs without taking into account you get 0.25x the tribute now
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>>507804291
The speed of ammo swapping alone is what made me instantly abandon the class and weapon

If that shit was at least smooth and quick I'd be on it like white on rice.
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>>507804734
It's on your back so it only works on attacks from behind your character, if you spin really fast it can catch attacks from the front.
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>>507804887
holy CONTRARIAN
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>>507804887
>chayula main
i kneel. poison bow?
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sometimes my breaches last like 10 seconds other times a whole minute and I have no idea why. I'm one tap screen clearing everything in both cases
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so how much rarity is good rarity, i have like 56% in maps in ssf right now
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>>507805194
Physical quarterstaff
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>>507803673
>tranny the rock
out
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>me after putting cool gear I have no use for into guilds chest and seeing it gradually dissapear
Feels nice, ngl.
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>>507805498
Man i have eaten like shit, not lifted for a week now
I feel so bloated
But poe2
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>>507805498
how did you find a comfy guild
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there's at least one mentally ill doomie fudding good builds and ascendancies in this thread
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>>507796956
>forced thoughbeit meme
didn't read
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So with lightning bow, do I want to completely ignore physical damage and focus entirely on lightning? Because apparently bonuses only apply after converting. Should I ignore other elements on bows also?
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Will I regret starting a Sorc after the incoming nerfbats drop?
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>>507805039
Cool.

So then I am unable to block with it since I am lacking the stats to use it with this weapon set 1 spec, while being able to use it with set 2?
I also assume that the damage on block works off the passive block, not just active block?
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>>507805689
my uncle works at tencent and said they're not nerfing sparkweaver, they're buffing every other class (except chayula)
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My build runs 6 auras
It's just poe1 again
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>>507805786
They shall not touch my special snowflake 0.001% usage Chayula
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>>507804736
That's The Vision I guess. A couple of threads ago someone reposted an old Druid video narrated by Jonathan and it's all slow attacks, shapeshifting delay, channeling while standing still, and almost dying during your own AoE move.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VwbCqQnWqog

I fear what Druid will be like on his release.
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Is the deadly evolution atlas node a significant increase in drop rarity? Im really struggling since i took it
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>>507805946
I will never understand why jonathan is so hellbent on super slow, "methodical" gameplay but then adds shit like temporalis to the game. literally poe1 endgame clearspeed
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>>507805946
thats literally every single gameplay by the devs, why would you ever trust ggg when they do the exact same thing in poe1
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>thinking about upheaval on storm wave
>expect it to be shit because of the aspd malus
>mfw
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>>507806110
>I will never understand why jonathan is so hellbent on super slow, "methodical" gameplay
he has literally always said the endgame will get crazy, why would you not have cool chase items in an arpg, it's the entire point of the fucking genre
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>>507805786
> Chinese owners demanded GGG make chalupa monk weak because he's evil and paints Asians in bad light
Makes sense.
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why is everyone in this game wants to fuck a monster
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>>507805946
>I fear what Druid will be like on his release.
A completely garbage melee class that will have a few builds that abuse some shit that clears the screen from a mile away. Like all classes.
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>every passive I'd want to anoint is like 20divs
haha...
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>>507806323
who wouldn't want to "commune" with the beast?
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>>507806356
>will have a few builds that abuse some shit that clears the screen from a mile away.
NTA but he said on release. All those things will be gutted, or newly introduced with oversights and soon to be gutted. There's no chance they let screen clearing get through in endgame on release when it's the complete opposite of everything they've said. It's just commonplace now because they haven't touched endgame at all
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>>507806251
that's basically the exact opposite of what he said in an interview from 11 days ago, are you referring to some 3 year old interviews or something?
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capped res, 3.2k life, 50% evasions, dying in t8 blue maps.

what am i doing wrong
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Bro, what if in act 6 your beast capture trick doesn't work and you have to time travel again but instead of going backwards you go forwards; people come from the next future like "bro help us it's the beast again" and it's just a chain of people going backwards
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>>507806251
Nta, but the game becomes a DPS race agains fast mobs already before Cruel and regardless of your build.
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Where's the PoE 1 thread? I went back to NecroSettlers SSF and I'm having a blast.
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>>507806828
You're not using ES
Also 50% evasion isn't enough you want 75%+ AFTER Acrobatics
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a time waste
thats all this game is
i should be cleaning my place
i should be washing clothes
i should be working out again

but im just playing and listening to youtube videos in the background
havent even eaten a lot
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>>507806923
because cruel is temporary shit that is not balanced around anything and specifically made to fill a gap between maps and the campaign, do you really thing act 4 is going to be like cruel? like think for 2 seconds and realize they cobbled together half the game so we had something to for early access while they focus on balancing the rest of the game like the first 3 acts
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>>507804869
you can consistently get 6-8k MINIMUM tribute per map, more if you get lucky.
hint: roll pack size
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>>507805946
>Bears have better slam skills than mace warriors
Bruh..
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very cool, haired retard
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>>507807241
Nah its ok, go look at poe1s dex armor
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>>507806701
I genuinely doubt it. As much as I like the game, I've it for years now, the game will slowly devolve into PoE1's retardation with screen wipes and macros that play the game for you.

And I don't know why you even bring endgame into this, none of this is an endgame issue or a content issue, it's a design issue. The design, from the beginning, is such that it does not support their intended playstyle past level 40 or so. So basically they made an entire game for a campaign's worth of a different experience, after which it's just PoE1 and nothing more, maybe a bit less.
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Just beat the campaign, i laughed when Doryani said the Karui were giving him trouble. The vaal have giant robots and an artificial sun and the karui have? Even a couple thousand years later they're just using wooden clubs and shit
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>>507807031
I'm just judging from
> Act 2 Dreadnought
> Chaos trial
> Act 3 Utzaal (whatever the locations are called)
All before Cruel. You are already fighting against large packs of fast and hard hitting mobs plus ranged spam. Also (except chaos trial) areas are huge and if you aren't constantly moving forward looking for an exit, you get bored.
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>>507805576
You read at least the first sentence thoughbeit.
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>>507806323
POE 1 had a lot more of that.
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>>507807526
these are very clearly outliers in a like already 25 hour campaign, the game literally foes back to normal after the dreadnought in act 3, it's an insane difficulty spike that is obviously gonna get changed. i don't know why you think shit is just gonna stay the same, you are playing fucking poe
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>>507807241
Your toon looks good in a homoerotic sort of way.
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>>507807412
>As much as I like the game, I've it for years now, the game will slowly devolve into PoE1's retardation with screen wipes
But the game is already that. It was always that. They have always said endgame will be like PoE1.
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>>507807670
I hate this
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>>507807505
As kiwis the poe devs are legally obligated to suck off the karui. Don't think about it too much.
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>>507807412
>The design, from the beginning, is such that it does not support their intended playstyle past level 40 or so.
I was maintained all throughout the campaign. It just stops after that because they stopped balancing. If nothing else, they could literally just quintuple the hp of mobs and all of a sudden you're forced to press more than 1 button or get swarmed and die. Now that wouldn't be a good solution, but it would be an easy example. They also haven't included any kind of support gems that encourage combos, but they could easily start making gems that make skills do tremendous amount more damage after certain types of gems are used in order, or something. In two moves they've completely killed one button builds, and the leftover stragglers just get hard gutted.
It's not a case of whether they can, because it's not difficult to do. The community is incapable of controlling itself so it will inevitably show them all the 1 button builds for them to remove. The only question is whether they're willing to uphold their vision - and given that it's the fundamental reason this is a new game instead of a new patch, they will do it if they don't want their game to be considered a complete failure. It'll be a playable failure that some people can find fun in, but if it doesn't even remotely match their design intent then a failure nonetheless. And I doubt Tencent wants a failure.
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>>507806923
the "slow and methodical"ness dies out with the dreadnought, where all of a sudden every monster moves at warp speed, teleports behind you and attacks 3 times per second
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>>507807716
>I was maintained all throughout the campaign.
Only played monk and uninstalled after hitting 90, but personally, after getting stormwave and the ice herald in like uh late act 2 or 3, the game already felt like poe 1. I was just mindlessly running through maps right clicking and watching packs shatter. From some streams I've watched it seems to be the same for other classes as well. You see "the vision" only in act 1, and maybe even not then. The second you get a good weapon/+spell staff you faceroll everything.
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Is Xesht as bullshit as Arbiter? Any guarantee 1-shot shit like Arbiter?
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So are we getting a patch today?
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>>507807714
Just wait, there's gonna be Tech-Karui and they'll have a giant jade mecha in the ocean. You'll fight the beast in the jade mecha, it'll be Pacific Rim
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>>507807704
stfu sissy
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>perfect ring for my build
>third whisper to this guy to try and get it
>been up for days
>not afk
why
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>>507807981
>he doesn't know
Their vacation lasts another 2 weeks.
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>>507807964
Most people I've seen also had the act 1 experience for all of the pre-cruel campaign. It's entirely dependent on your weapon. If you're properly geared, it becomes a lot easier. The realistic solution to that is to make it easier to get level-appropriate weapons, and then buff enemies according to the expectation you have them. Suddenly the difficulty is normalized but better gear can still have an easier time.
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Just exploded act 2 cruel colossus before he could walk to his phase 2 as ice strike invoker, why did I even bother playing merc?
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any actual good loot filters? neversink is shit and still cluttering my game with white and blue trash
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What passive gems do I put into Whirling Assault to make it actually do damage on it's own instead of just relying on being a bell hitting move?
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>>507808060
good i want to play DD for a good bit it's actually really fun
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>>507808304
But it is a bell hitting move. That's the point. It's not cyclone. It's a multihit aoe skill made to interact with the multi-hittable bell but without needing to prioritize it unlike strike skills. You can slap on 5 damage gems if you want, but it's not a strike skill. It's a skill made to combo with things like Staggering Palm for more aoes, more strikes, and in turn be a method of building stun for Staggering Palm, etc,
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>>507808304
you don't
whirlwind/cyclone is iconic and it's fucking trash in this game
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>>507808312
i doubt DD will be dumpstered that badly unless you are a blood mage in which case it's going to be horrific because they'll make it so % corpse life scales with skill level
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Got bored out of my mind after spamming hundreds of maps in 1 direction after hitting t15s and only finding 1 citadel. I don't know if I even wanna try another character. Monk felt great, and all the other good build seem too similar to monk. Merc is strength stacking monk, and deadeye is ranged monk. Really, the good thing isn't even monk here but the ice/thunder heralds. These things will get nerfed 100%.
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>cant use vanishing dyes
aieeeeeeeeeeee why is this not available
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>>507807716
>I was maintained all throughout the campaign.
Where do retards like this come from? No one cares if you played the easy mode free campaign in the stupidest way possible. Is this just one retard monologuing to himself?
>>507808000
No, I have no idea why people have these deranged ideas. At no point is the game slow. It just punished you for being slow more as the game progresses. Because in PoE slow means death.
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>>507808473
>unless you are a blood mage
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After playing for a while now I think the one try per map is a good change. Imagine how trivial and low stake mapping would be otherwise. I hope ggg never give in to the reddit pressure on this.
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>>507807505
>and the karui have?
Unrepentant cannibalism.
There was a thing a year or two ago when some scholar or some-such talked about maori cannibalism not being explored deeply enough and the push back he got was "You just don't understand our culture, it wasn't cannibalism to us so it's ok, don't project your European idea of cannibalism onto us."
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Can you not gamble post campaign?
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>>507808594
damn i wanna roll a merc
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>>507808773
I like this but it needs to stop booting you out of the map on DC. Sometimes I've even lost everything I picked up in the map. Like I'll just open a breach up and the game freezes, map over, no refunds.
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>>507808820
You can. If you're buying things but nothing's buying there's always been a gamble cap, on the bottom of the store it'll say 0/100, it increases with rares and unique enemies killed.
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>>507808594
>literally strongest clear build
>with an up to date weapon
>fully specced into damage to the point hitting a poison cloud takes 50% hp in a second
>it clears
Who would have fucking thought retard. It's the equivalent of going pure ES-Grim Feast, your health not moving, and saying every build was equally tanky. You're literally playing the meta among meta builds - and because I know you're going to go "uhmm ackshually spark xdd", that barely works in campaign. Also the webm literally says it has an Expert weapon. I didn't know act 3 normal was level 55+ you colossal faggot.
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>>507805938
Best post in this thread so far
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>>507807505
>and the karui have?
I see someone has skipped TOTA.
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Viable builds:
Warrior - who cares, garbage
Ranger, Monk - anything as long as it can use both heralds
Mercenary - poison cloud and strength stacking monk
Sorcerer - spark
Witch - arsonists
Did I miss anything?
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>>507809025
I bet that fucking turtle glitched into its totem again and they couldn't get through its gigantic life pool.
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>>507808304
You WILL ring ze bell.
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>>507808726
Terrible rolls
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>>507809080
DD bloodmage should be up there, but it's definitely not going to survive since it's a one button spam tanky build that "abuses" bloodmage by using intentionally underleveled gems
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>>507809080
Witch DD.
There are viable poison builds for ranger too but they aren't as good I think.
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Here's my review of the campaign since i actually beat it (after 16 hours fml)
>The subtle lore stuff is all really great, the world building around the marketh feels really sophisticated
>Slightly weird narrative that all the villians are 'oppressed people' who want to use the beast to save themselves (Ezyomytes, Fairidun and assumedly the Oriathans). Opposite to most political correct narratives
>I like you can progressively see the beast get bigger and some of the set pieces are cool (caravan going through the gates). It's lame the beast just looks like Kitava again atm
>Act 1 has so many historic battles there's corpses everywhere and graves on top of graves, the red vale is just a zone but has subtle lore. The count digs up his castle to feed corpses to the beast (which is repeated in act 2 but never explained why it wants to eat dead people)
>Going back in time is lame and i actually believe the 'Zana is Atziri' posters now, for a more grounded story it has already gone full hectic by act 3
>Act 3 is kind of narratively weak till the time travel shit, you just run around the jungle
>Colour grading between zones is nice, gives a sense of progress (countered by the fuck huge zones)
>Player progression is weak because you can't brute force an outcome like poe1
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>>507809080
>Did I miss anything?
Yeah, actually having the game knowledge required to make a tier list.
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I fucking hate trading with moon-rune named retards, literally all of them just adjusting their prices for ages, never managed to actually trade with any of them.
In fact, 80% of traders should be hanged. Stop selling your shit if you dont even know your price.
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In case you've missed it, Mao's currently getting mindbroken by the Dreadnought
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>>507808950
Alva doesn't have a shop option for me any more in my hideout
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>>507809284
This list isn't tiering anything.
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>>507808853
that's a deadeye
>>507808963
its just deadeye with both heralds and CoS/CoF. That's an irradiated t15, the webm has text because my trade overlay is bugging out.
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>>507809195
>that "abuses" bloodmage by using intentionally underleveled gems
I'd love for them to actually scale DD in any meaningful way but it's on them for not designing Blood Mage in a coherent way.
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>>507809369
The tiering is implied (viable vs unviable).
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>>507809332
Well maybe you should try Alva in the Ziggurat
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fuck this gay earth and this gay ass dogshit game.
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>>507809025
You think they'll have spiritual powers that could overcome the vaal? I can't imagine them being that sophisticated but it could be neat lore wise
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I hate sparkniggers so much its unreal
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>>507809373
>posts webm of t15 clearing Deadeye
>somehow proof people all shitrolled the campaign
????
No shit everything after campaign is imbalanced dogshit. That's the point of every discussed until then. The campaign itself was balanced fine unless you just bought all your gear every 10 levels
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>>507809195
it's more like a 2 button build cause you have to micro your minions or else it's the clunkiest shit known to man. also you have offering and mana tempest, and even then there is still a lot of times where you have downtime and need to wait for minions to come back even with the unique.
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Just got my first div drop. Is there a build I can buy with this that is t15 map viable?
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>>507809080
>Warrior - who cares, garbage
stampede explosion is pretty good. shame about everything else
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Here's way back when i played the campaign. I'm playing a minions witch now and its kind of the same.
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>>507809375
You know if they tried scaling at all it'd go terribly.
>10%(+1% per gem level)
>they forget you can get to gem level 40
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>>507802760
Nigger, we got an assload to complain about. Early access with a half finished game 2 years after they wanted to release the finished game isn't a get out of jail free card you massive homo.
Stop with your retarded positivity. It's annoying as fuck. The reddit homos do that aswell.
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>>507809676
> Enter Jonathan's Machinarium.
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>be a streamer
>get your account hacked&cleaned
>no response from GGG
>dig into it
>massive amount of accounts affected, locked and hacked

>be GGG
>most likely have a security breach
>do fucking nothing other than post the same cope pasta on forums
>go on Xmas/NY break, like it's nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDmLQL7JhMc

LMAOOO

GGG are fucking unbelievable.
Blizzard would have been ripped apart by players and media alike over something like this.
But le smol indi compani (owned by Tencent) gets a pass.
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>>507809731
he's not saying there is nothing to complain about in regards to poe2 it's an early access thats the point, he's saying arpg gamers are eating good
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>>507809696
I mean, yeah sure but tweaking numbers is always easy. DD feels ridiculously strong even during leveling, I'm sure they can find a way to smooth out the power curve without it ending up batshit crazy. DD's main power though lies in its stupid 50% chance to not consume your skelly, gut that and it loses a bit of power, at least vs bosses.
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GGG only had 15+ years of work on poe 1 to look back on and 5+ years of development for poe 2. Why are you so entitled to expect more than a shoddily copypasted endgame? Don't expect so much from a free game (that costs $30). GGG is just a small indie studio.
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>>507807505
Legion league was Vaal vs Maraketh vs Karui vs Empire: The League
They're all powerful
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>>507809906
He's literally saying there is nothing to complain about. An I surrounded by literally retards? What's going on here?
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>>507809951
>50%
75% with the wand.
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Am I retarded if I have no clue who Piety is? The game starts off with you being exiled and now all of a sudden I'm meant to know who this bitch is as I chase her for some reason.
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>>507810049
the post he is replying too is saying arpgs are bad
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>>507809881
business must be booming for all the rmt sites, probably shouldn't go to those if you want to keep your password mate.
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>>507809967
On the other hand, $30 is exactly the market price of one half of a game.
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>>507810105
Wrong game, chud. This is the path of exile 2 general. Post about your dead game in another thread.
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>>507810105
Not really, you'd have to listen to all the dialogue to figure it out.
POE storytelling was never its strong suit so just ignore it and come back to it later if you want to pick it apart.
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>>507809881
>every single time a popular online game comes a around
>retards swarm it
>use the same email + password combo that already got leaked 50 times by other games
>indians use those leaked passwords to manually check for accounts in the new popular game
>retards scream about how it must be the game's fault
I understand that you are just trolling, but those retards are still real.
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>"Definitely not the exes I downloaded from my favorite porn websites"
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>>507810163
>On the other hand, $30 is exactly the market price of one half of a game.
not anymore games are 70 dollars now
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>>507807274
Use Lightning damage
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>>507810105
Only from context clues, but that's a smart people thing so you shouldn't worry too much about it.
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>>507809373
I'm a rather new player, can you give me the breakdown on that webm?
Is that Voltaic Mark explosion? How do you apply it so quickly?
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Holy shit.
So a perfect jeweler's just dropped, and I started messing with support gems to figure out if its worth using on my bonestorm. I tested momentum and it does seem to work, but then I have to constantly keep running around even when I don't have to. And then I tried scattershot. It really does not seem worth it as bonestorm already shoots a bunch of projectiles and 2 extra proj for 20% less total damage seems like a terrible deal, BUT it actually makes you conjure projectiles way faster, like it adds 2 proj for every stage of channeling. I basically shoot a fully charged bonestorm as fast as I can do the tap-release and hold the button routine for casting on the move. I tested it on a t16 boss with extra boss difficulty from atlas passives and its a massive dps increase, AND it feels much better for clear since I can charge a bonestorm much faster before a pack of turbohasted mobs charges in my face. On top of that my mana does not drain nearly as fast since I don't have to hold the cast as long before releasing a full volley (cast speed does make it charge faster but the cost per second goes up too) so I can drop inspiration as well.
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>>507809951
>DD's main power though lies in its stupid 50% chance to not consume your skelly
thats not from DD, it's a level 59 soul gem and tree, with the unique its 75
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>>507810015
I never correlated that with poe2, you're right. There was also templars meaning the first 5 acts are all the domain of timeless conflict peeps sort of, there ezyomytes not eternals in act 1
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>>507810314
bnuuy..
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>>507810389
>soul gem
support gem, getting that and sacrifice mixed up
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poe2 sucks
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>>507810346
Ember fusillade does a similar thing where adding extra proj makes it fill up quicker instead of shooting out more proj at once.
It's cozy. I think you can probably make some crazy bonestorm into oneshot skill tech because bonestorm scales hard with gem levels. Some widowhail shit.
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Is any other character as fun as monk or have I already beaten the game?
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>>507810105
She just shows up in the prison, i don't think the player has any knowledge of her existence at that point
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>>507809561
blood mage DD doesn't take anything to get going
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How are people one shotting stuff with tempest bell? I put mine down and the ice orb thingy just flys right past it.
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>>507809881
>see somebody list temporalis
>boot up hacking program
>type their name in
>outputs their password
>take all their stuff
its just that easy.
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>>507805946
OH NO NO NO
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>>507809679
armour is awful
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>>507809881
Wait, he lives in Japan? lmao
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>>507810656
Gonna start a new conspiracy theory that GGG is stealing your items to keep you playing
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>>507808458
>but without needing to prioritize it unlike strike skills
tell that to the bell, because half the time i'm still forced to just specifically target the bell because there's a pixel in the way, or a singular enemy is halfway in the way and the aoe is so much smaller than it appears
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>>507810317
>Is that Voltaic Mark explosion? How do you apply it so quickly?
Its attached to cast on freeze. When I clear I use CoF voltaic and when I boss I just press G and switch to CoS ball lightning quickly.
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>>507810174
The poe1 one doesn't exist anymore.
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>>507810581
do you have a link?
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>>507810736
GG is Tencent and the chinese are known to run RMT sites for their own games themselves. Hacking their own players is something those basterds can easily do.
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>>507810789
i genuinely wonder if that general will ever come back, even with a new league it really seems like it's gonna be dead for good
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>>507810656
>standalone cucks
oh nyo
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>>507810845
>hey i'll buy your build for a few grand.
and just like that i was hacked.
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>>507810845
GGG was running RMT schemes long before Tencent bought them
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>>507810845
No way, I trusted them...
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>>507809187
Divine it
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how many characters do you guys have? is there any reason to make a new character instead of just grinding with one character other than to have fun?
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>>507810768
I tried some Cast on Shock stuff but it gathered energy so damn slowly. I guess the trick is to have the spell as low manacost as possible?
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This is stupid because why would you hack when you can create items?
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I know for sure that GGG supports rmting because I rmt'd several hundred bucks quite obviously a few years ago for poe 1 and never got banned until now. If they ever checked for rmt they would've 100% caught me.
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>>507809881
They had a hard year pls understand
Anyways everyone really should be using a unique random gen password like rwe13r32nf12as for everything
It can still be brute-forced but at least it can't be stolen from a less secure place and used somewhere else
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>>507810736
More likely to make you quit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUM6UW9qIOo

did I fall for baitt? im never going to afford howa. can i salvage this character with a new build, or is gemling lengionarre just a shit ascendency for poorfag

struggling in t7-8 maps
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>>507811148
i'd only make a new character to try stuff through the campaign, endgame might as well not exist with how much its going to change over the next few months
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>>507811283
>attribute stacking
>cheap
This is some evil bait what the hell.
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>>507810845
>>507811026
I tentatively believe this, have since long ago in Poo1, but do you guys have saved evidence of this?
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>>507811050
I'm not a gambler
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>>507811206
>until now
Did you word that in a funny way or did you get banned now?
Unironically considering RMTing some cash
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can I only get t16 maps from citadel bosses and corrupting t15s? never seen one drop naturally in a normal t15 map
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>>507811148
there is no fun in poe2 so I assume you mean poe1. I usually play 2-3 chars per league.
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>>507811395
>Did you word that in a funny way or did you get banned now?
Nah, I still used the same account for poe 2 until I uninstalled a few days ago.
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>>507811176
It gets better with retention. Just copy fubguns gems but don't 100% copy his passives because they are for a mirror build. You'll likely have to improvise.
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>>507811337
Memes aside, the chinese do run RMT shops for their own games. That's a fact.
The logic is that: you can't realistically stop botting and RMT so instead they just take over the RMT market and kill off all the competition since third parties will never be able to compete against the developers themselves printing items for free.
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>>507810864
I think it might be dead, nobody here wants to discuss POE1 either so it's like talking to the void.
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>>507811335
Pretty sure the streamers playing the game 24/7 are raking in hundreds of divines per day, in that context, it's cheap to make a build, just start it out and buy all your gear. Done, build finished. What, you don't have infinite funds? Well play some more.
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R*ddit was right.
Game's too punishing for dying in softcore. You may even have to start mapping all over again.
>don't be a shitter
Scrubs are human too. Not everyone can spare hundreds of hours mapping.
Players don't lose hours of progress even in soulsbornekiro games.
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I have less respect for any subhumans buying supporter packs than anyone doing RMT.
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>>507811337
https://www.reddit.com/r/ExilesAnonymous/comments/n5rq09/forgotten_scandal_gggs_involvement_in_rmt/
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>>507811572
just dont die lol
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>>507811395
>Unironically considering RMTing some cash
regardless of if you're buying or selling, I suggest playerauctions.com
been using them for a decade accross like 10 different games. I swear I'm not affiliated beyond just being a user of their site
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>>507809881
ssf Chads on top.
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GGG should stop bullshitting and announce that Duelist is the next class being added already.
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>>507811525
And in games that aren't f2p such as Tarkov, the devs do the RMT and they sometimes ban people who take part in the RMT, so they will buy new accounts. It's a double whammy for the devs, making money multiple times off the same customers.
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>>507811537
i guess everyone really has moved on
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>>507811686
Worded exactly like a twitter bot.
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How can they possibly fix crafting
There's no way we're going to have to buy and click omens en masse a year from now
Right?
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>>507811819
fuck you nigger, buy my divines. use an AI detector on that text.
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Does anyone know if reload speed also affects bolt swapping?
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>>507811607
Didn't that turn out to be because of div cards? They were all i74 because the dude cashing them in was level 74.
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>>507811849
Fix? There's nothing to fix, crafting is working as intended.
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GGG will sadly cave under reddit pressure and remove the crossbow random jamming feature
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>>507811956
The div card wasn't in the game yet.
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>>507811335
>>507811561
can i salvage this characcter or do i need to reroll? what is a good budget build?
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>>507811572
Skill issue
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>>507810542
I have not tried embers, but the description makes it sound like they release after a certain duration, so would that limit your potential dps or do they automatically release when you reach max embers?
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Most.likey bot farmed I've used the bot this very same.way in the past it's hard to keep it from dying in high maps so you tell it to just run magic low tiers then you multibox a bunch of vms and wait as far as I know the bots still work to this day personally haven't used them in years and haven't touch the game in almost as long though keeping bot alive.is.probly easier than it ever was before with the flask stuff that got added.
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>>507812007
Weight status: felt.
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What is good about POE2 besides "I am distracted by shiny newness" because I only see people pointing out the shitty parts of it
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>>507812202
it looks nice
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>>507811819
If you're actually worried then use one of the 2 decade old RMT forums like d2jsp. that site is older than 4chan.
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When is Chris getting released from his CCP internment camp?
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>>507812202
wasd
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>>507812043
>what is a good budget build?
I have 2 answers for this one. If you're playing to have fun then just play whatever you find fun, pretty much anything can be decent in endgame. If you're looking for a build so you can grind currency, just find a real job that pays real money.
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>>507812269
yea, actually good change

>>507812229
that's shiny newness
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>>507812082
worse, you replace your first ember and reset the release time for all of them. so if you keep spamming your dps is literally 0.
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Lvl 88 SSF player here, and I’m tired…

…Of every progression system in this game being heavily weighted against players playing it without overgearing via trade. Just some personal stats to illustrate it:

Never dropped a single Perfect Jeweler’s Orb, and only got 3 greaters. But at the same time, I have 40 lessers still remaining.
Dropped a single Orb of Nullification
Dropped 3 Divine orbs in total.
Dropped 5 omens in total. Haven’t even started seeing any of these before I started doing T14 ritual maps
Never dropped, bought, or crafted a single weapon with higher than tier 6 physical attack mod. Average would probably be T2
Never even seen anything above Tier 2 drop until I started stacking +100% item rarity via gear.
Failed every single of my Chance orbs. Probably close to 10 so far.
Clearing T10-T12 maps gives me a whooping 0.5%-3% of exp. One death to lose 10%.

Spent millions of gold on gambling for gear on an NPC daily. Nothing to show for it.
Quantity of drops is not the issue. I ported to town 3-4 times to unload all the rares I drop when I still cared. I keep maybe 1 in 50, since the rest is just regal shard fodder.
I could go on. But you get the point. Progression isn’t great unless you’re already overgeared. Because for whatever reason a lot of the ‘good’ stuff like omens that are supposed to make crafting more predictable don’t start dropping until you’re already grinding the highest tier maps. Most still remain myths I’ve only heard of in the trade league.

And don’t get me wrong, I’m well aware a lot of this comes down to my choice of playing in SSF. But I do so not because I’m into BDSM, but because I want to overcome the challenges myself. But when instead of providing rewarding drop and deterministic crafting outcomes you just slap that gacha machine on the back and smile, I gotta say. GGG. This. Is. Not. Okay.

Just my 2 cents before I go hibernate before I return to the unrewarding grind tomorrow…

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>tier 8 waystones won't drop
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>507812082
They don't automatically release.
Anyway not suggesting you use it, just saying that there are other gems that have the same projectile interaction.
It's just a really good skill for keeping up tailwind on a deadeye, super quick fast time and you can do it very quickly while moving.
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This is the mansion listed as office of AC Consulting, the business entity of the guy Chris traded 7.5% of GGG to run the RMT operation: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9040-Split-Log-Rd-Brentwood-TN-37027/42628752_zpid/?msockid=25647a64fe4969082db26813ff8b6842

https://archive.is/CWQQ1
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>>507812202
>because I only see people pointing out the shitty parts of it
There's been at least one faggot doomposting since before the game came out.
The bosses are great and, until late campaign/maps, it feels like you're actually doing something in combat instead of just running past while you one shot everything in 2 screens of you.
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Bros, this game is consuming my life, and I'm starting to question what the fuck I'm doing by playing it...
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>>507812412
a 9 will advance your quest
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>>507812202
Honestly its just wasd and the visuals. Even the gameplay isn't that much more sophisticated. If you're honest the boss design in PoE2 is similar to most main bosses in 1, it's not like the collosus is that different to Kitava for example
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>>507811283
>getting baited by a tranny and known scammer
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>>507812540
the boss designs in poe2 are more inline with pinnacle poe1 bosses, in fact they are harder than every boss besides like uber uber elder
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>>507812367
>and only got 3 greaters
He's doing at least three times better than me then lol
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What makes queen of the forest so expensive?
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>>507804136
Yeah, the cost is what breaks it. The multi can be insane tho, easily 100 crit mult on spells.
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>get swarmed with hasted, cold aura, evasive, gorillas that bodyblock you
>frozen, stunned, rollslop is invalidated
>chaos bubbles spawn under feet, can’t roll away
>mobs explode on death and instagib you

I really see the vision in making melee combat feel better in this game, really
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>>507812770
Movement speed.
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>>507812770
nice ass that everyone wants to tap
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>>507811395
GGG has a long history with RMT. If you make some token effort at appearing like a regular user, like trading some random trash rare for 100 div, there is a 0% chance you get banned.
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>>507812795
You have absolutely no reason to complain as you can just leapslam out without even needing to change weapons.
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>>507812770
the highest movement speed I've seen on a QOTF so far is like +220%.
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>>507812854
no one has ever debunked this btw
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>>507798539
how did you not know this
its like the most obvious baseline thing about the demon form
it even says so on the node
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Can someone tell me what do those rolling antelions (forgoet the actual name) do? All they seem to do is roll around pushing you away, but the push never seems to deal damage and I'm wondering if it's broken.
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>>507811607
> dirty RMT money
Okay, but there's nothing dirty about selling items in a computer game.
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prowling shade can go to hell
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>>507812959
that's it they push you. dangerous in those maps where you can get cornered and mobbed.
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>>507812959
They slice through evasion builds like a knife through hot butter.
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im a new player who NEEDS to be spoonfed a build guide PLEASE
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>>507812919
>>507812854
I'm the retard that was shilling PA earlier, I've literally paid my rent from selling orbs before. I can promise you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, my biggest competitor is GGG, not other tradetards. I don't blame them though, if I was chris I would have done the same thing
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>>507812997
Agreed. That's why I buy currency from player auctions.com. I'm not the one moralfagging about RMT.
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>>507813090
there are several in youtube why are you asking here
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I rmt'd a ton of divs 2-3 years ago after making a lot of money in crypto. Made an invincible CoC Ice Spear witch that could do everything, then stopped playing 2 days later. I do appreciate that event teaching me that for games like this it really is more about the journey than anything else. If you get a fully stacked out character with all BiS items you have fun for a few hours but then you just get bored with nothing else to do.
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>>507813190
fuck you you're trying to make me look bad lol
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>>507813094
>I've literally paid my rent from selling orbs before
Do you live in India
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I was thinking about making poison concoction build but I noticed everyone plays it with bow? I thought it required you to have no active weapon?
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>>507813314
its a meme, it uses gas arrow
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>>507812959
You mean you would prefer if they one shot you?
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>>507813272
no I just prefer playerauctions.com I didn't even see your post. But there's plenty of other good RMT sites.
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>>507813305
California. To be fair, this was years ago and my rent was around 800 a month which really isn't much
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>>507813374
Whats the meme?
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>>507813305
Don't underestimate how much you can make from selling currency. It's can be close to a thousand bucks if you nolife early league.
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>>507813250
i wanna know what builds /vg/ recommends...
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>>507813523
poe2 doesn't have builds
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>>507813508
even right now, divines are still selling for >$3 each on PA and D2JSP. it's nuts, any 0iq retard can go farm 20 of these in a day, even more with a competent build and tons of MF
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>>507813498
it works differently like pconc in poe1 its more like a slower lightning arrow lol
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>>507813314
>I thought it required you to have no active weapon?
It doesn't, you can have anything equipped, it just uses your unarmed attack for the purposes of damage calculation.

The meme with the bow is getting +gem levels for it (huge), and apparently the game is bugged and retarded and some of the bow damage nodes on quiver actually affect pconc as well.
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>>507813254
Reminds me of that guy that whaled so hard in Diablo Immortal and won so much that at some point matchmaking just wouldn't match him anymore because he was so far ahead of everyone else. He whaled for the privilege of not playing the game anymore.
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>>507807505
Karui have Turtles, and Turtles never lose, Tota is proof of this
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>>507812959
each 'attack' rolls once for block/evasion, so if you roll evade/block on the first hit you evade/block the entire roll
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>>507813395
Obviously not, just interested if something is breaking
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>>507813581
Uniques aren't meant to be good except for like 5 of them
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I can not count the moments any more, where I went "oh yeah, they fixed this problem in 2016 in PoE1", while playing PoE2.

Or whatever year it was. It's like they hired completely new devs to do the game, who just try to copy PoE1 with ruthless flair and the seniors are just chilling in the office and not checking wtf these new guys are doing. Yes, the game has good stuff in it as well, but the good stuff is not making me quit the game.

rares are clearly visible in the pack
early itemisation is fixed by the bench
deadly effects have clear and distinct sound effects
you can not go CI with just 2 items, so not everybody an their mother is ES
5/6L made more accessible through different means
removed and later reworked sextants, because blocking and setting up was way to much (towers are old sextants on crack)
made gems accessible for early game
"fixed" melee with fortify
reworked scion life wheel, so not everybody is forced to got there. This is 100% future problem, when they try to fix current stare of ES and nuke completely, so everybody is forced to go life
reduced the mana cost of spells, to make spell casting easier
ascendancy made easier, to make it more accessible
shortened act zones
increased monster density, so players do not have to travel multiple screens to the next pack
...
I can go on for the whole day. I did not expected PoE2 to be a perfect game on early access, but I did not expected it to repeat so many mistakes either.
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>talk to someone
>they play babycore
>they complain how they lose a map and a few things when they die
>mfw
I wish there weren't so many casuals playing the game here
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>>507813254
>you have fun for a few hours but then you just
but then you use your OP ass build to farm 200 bucks worth of divines a day for resell. I guess in your case that doesn't matter though because you had crypto money
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>>507813659
But it looks kinda comfy, i like the idea of throwing shit at mobs and poison damage
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>people figuring out how to play acolyte of chayula
>it's hexblast
>would have to spend 6 times the amount of money i have to respec to that, and that's not even accounting for getting new gear
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>>507813951
you do you bro. its on my list to play as well we have 6 months of this shit but its not at the top since the clear is slow desu
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actual dogshit game
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>>507813581
someone pointed out that there are no bases from the last acts, because spoilers so there must be a whole bunch of uniques that haven't been pushed into the game yet, maybe this is why they're all SHIT. I think they've shown mjolnir (i don't think) but its not in game for example
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I went to try Last Epoch again and I'm having more fun playing it than PoE2
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I sold an absolutely crazy wand for like 2 div a week ago that would be at least 20 div now, and thinking about it just kill my motivation to keep playing.
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>>507814014
Just reroll, it's not like the reroll process is so bad.
The game is pretty decently fun even in early acts.
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>>507814089
cool, go post about it in the LE general
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>>507814124
If it makes you feel any better, with the rate this is going, that 20 div would be 200 div in a week. Inflation's worse than fucking Venezuela.
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>>507813783
That makes it slightly less disappointing
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>>507813787
yeah poe2 is bad
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>>507813787
If the disgruntled employee post from a few days back is anything to go by, it basically is that they're different devs. PoE1 team just yoinks shit from PoE2 development to use in new leagues, while PoE2 is supposedly a relatively small group of like 8 guys doing their own things with dogshit management because Jonathan is overly biased with a lot of arbitrary things and has conflicting management decisions. So it probably, unironically, is that the game has been in development for 6 years with a different team entirely that's had basically no contact with PoE1's thing to pick up on what they fixed. Or Jonathan just said "no, that was too convenient for the players, leave it out".
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>>507813094
I know I would have done the same thing were I the CEO of GGG at that time. You have this immense free and legal cash influx at your disposal, literally a few clicks away. You can't help but think about how many more people you could hire, how you could develop your game and also buy your wife that house she dreams of... Plus RMT will exist with or without you anyway, and those fuckers are making money selling *your* items.
You just have to make sure players won't find out because it would ruin the game for them
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So we're still going to glaze over the fact that none of the mercenary's ascendancies fit his personality, huh?
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>>507813856
because hardcore is literally something only mentally unstable people would want to play. there's better things to do with your time than to replay the campaign because you got hit by something that wasn't even telegraphed, or got lagspiked because of server issues and then have to sit down and play from scratch again. you will never convince me that it's not complete psychopath behavior to keep doing the same thing over and over, expecting another result. let alone playing hardcore on fucking standard, when there's not even a league active so it's doubly pointless.
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>>507814089
Not surprising, considering 'poch is good and poe2 is quite frankly bad.
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>>507814303
Yeah I thought that was kind of weird too.
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Does the Hulking Form passive boost, boost my strength gain nodes?
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>>507814145
>The game is pretty decently fun even in early acts.
I have absolutely nothing but disdain for the campaign itself.
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>>507814415
No
It says something ljke excluding stat nodes at the end don't it
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Has anyone tried mass chancing stellar amulets? Did only 5 so far and all of them poofed. Normal stellar amulet prices are crazy high though, so I assume the chances must be decent.
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>people unironically defending chris RMTing
cheaters, all of you.
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>>507814303
just another instance of stupidity from poe2's 'game design' team
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>>507813572
what is a good build please help
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>>507814281
Is this post saved somewhere? You guys keep talking about it, I want tor read it.
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>>507814281
>boss is overly biased with a lot of arbitrary things and has conflicting management decisions.
that literally what any disgruntled employee would say about his boss. I've heard that many times before in my life. And I even overheard people saying that about me. tl;dr doesn't mean shit and say more about that asian insider than his boss
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>>507814145
this has to be bait
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>>507814303
His personality went through a weird "just survive at any cost" to "try to get rich no matter the cost"
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>>507814303
For me, Witchhunter fits, as he says himself, dark times call for a dark profession.
I kind of like it, grizzled cynic realizes shit will only gets worse unless he goes full sicario on the wicked and the damned.
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>>507814672
they are going to be in the game they just aren't made yet
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>>507814536
>making money is bad!
that mindset is why you are still poor
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>>507814321
I already feel guilty with how much time I'm investing on this game on standard, I can't imagine playing hardcore without being a shameless NEET or someone who gets paid to play video games all day.
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How do you make your own loot filter? Do you guys make your own or just use another's?
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>>507814813
>>507814321
Why are people on this site now proud of being casual normalfags?
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>>507814730
He's literally me btw.
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>>507814303
I'd love to glaze the mercenary
Or vice versa honestly
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>>507814897
I literally play 10 hours a day.
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>>507814886
it's just a text file, you can open and edit it
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>>507814467
I genuinely feel sorry for you.

>>507814704
Why? Almost all the good gameplay elements are already there in the campaign (the only one being absent is juicing). From the moment you enter Clearfell, you can start building your character as if it's the lategame, and it really matters.
It's not even long when you know where to go.

I'm writing this as someone who believes POE1 campaign is unfixable and needs a skip button. POE2 campaign just doesn't have the same problems. The gameplay is immediately meaningful, and not a pointless chore that you can do with your eyes closed.
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everyone says poe1 is better
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>>507814897
Nobody in this thread can be defined as casual, don't be retarded.
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>>507815016
Everyone says poe1 is better but they're all busy playing poe2.
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>>507815016
Nobody is going back to that. As soon as they grow PoE 2 with the missing stuff, it's fucking over with the former game.
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>>507815016
I think people will legit get culture shock going back to poe1
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>>507814501
Well shit, gonna need a lot of Str nodes for that giant blood node
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>>507814642
As in, according to the post, Jonathan literally balances in favour of ranged and mages because "a melee weapon shouldn't hit harder than a gun or fireball" and "someone in close range shouldn't be able to survive better than someone far away". Plus everything else in his post was more or less proven correct, so I'll take his word for it given that Jonathan has a track record of not knowing what the fuck he wants for over a decade.

>>507814627
Only found it because I remember someone explicitly mentioning "civ map" >>507272680
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>>507814813
Path 1 Standard, a league that should have been called Eternal League all this time. The place where a good chunk of people should have been playing all this time. Leveling skips are in Standard, you just respec the build. Atlas is re completed with one map played. Access to legacy items means combatting dumb nerf decisions and thus, it's quite casual friendly in many ways. Reuse some old gear, less currency needed per build.

Standard's good. I play it a lot as well.
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I’m so very tired of running t11s to path to towers to spend my tablets to run maybe 3 actually fun juiced maps
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bros I finally caved
I finally updated my drivers
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>>507815297
you too huh...
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>level 80
>not a single gem over 3 sockets
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>>507815297
run t1s and stack even more movement speed
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>>507813787
>implying its not poe1 that made the mistakes
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>>507814886
there's no loot in poe2 so no filter needed
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>>507815234
Ty.
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As much as I hate to admit it, poe 1 is probably dead. They'll delay the next league until march at the very earliest, and by then with some updates poe 2 will simply seem incomparably better. Poe 1 will have worse player numbers, which ggg will take as an excuse to shut it down.
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>>507815626
based stuck-in-tier-1-mapsGOD
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>>507814897
they made poe2 for casuals like me. Deal with it
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why is poe2 worse than poe1?
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>>507815315
Does it even matter? It feels like poe uses 120% of my cpu and 0% of my gpu.
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>>507812007
>most straightforward to clear map
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>>507814996
>not a pointless chore that you can do with your eyes closed.
Yeah it is
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>>507814886
i made my own 400 line strict filter and 80% of the lines are copy pasting color/font size/sounds.
it was alot easier than i thought
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I won't be able to go back to PoE 1 after using wasd movement. It's simply not possible. It just feels so much better.
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>>507815771
Remember how they made Ruthless mode and everyone hated and mocked it? Well they made that into a whole game, added rollslop, and charged 30 shekels for it.
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>>507815918
No more than videogames in general are.
What exact part of the endgame do you think is missing in the campaign?
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>>507816049
>vocal ADD mazed addicts speak the loudest!
Damn no way, anon.
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>>507816049
geonor drops more loot than a level 80 ruthless character will see in its whole playtime
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I uninstalled poe 2 because I got bored but now I have nothing else to play...
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>>507816049
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>>507814303
>none of the mercenary's ascendancies fit his personality, huh?
>Personality eeew that's some undead shit
>Eeww arcane shit
>Witchunter - has explicit bonuses against the undead and demons

It's ok?
Gemling looks cringe AF but Witchunter feels pretty cool
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>>507795717
i really want to rape the clean anuses of templar nuns
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>hc players be like
>pause the game because a skeleton archer shot one bolt
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>>507813692
>won so much
Wasn't it that he had such a high gearscore it could not match him to anyone since he whaled too hard?
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>>507816049
people that say this have genuinely never played ruthless before, the vast majority of your time in ruthless is spent farming fucking lab chests for loot
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Poison or chaos charm for the viper boss? I last time died in 0,1s to the spear cascade attack that comes in a wave because I failed a roll
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>>507816232
>witchhunter feels good
>built around the completely half assed mechanic that is weapon swapping
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>>507814124
2 div a week ago was worth 20 div now. You didn't lose much as long as you reinvested those 2 div into gear.
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>>507796963
>Nobody wants to deal with BS deaths you can't see coming. Nobody wants to deal with the fact that you die, and are not told what you died too.
At least in League it's almost always clear what you died to, and there's also a damage taken overview
But if you don't like that PoE doesn't have those things, you're le redditor shitter that got filtered xD
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>>507816363
rarity charm
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>>507816382
I wouldn't say a single node is 'built around'. More like it was meant to make it a swiss army knife.
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>>507816264
He also won everything so his rating was sky high.
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>>507816382
Moron!
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>>507811206
I know for sure that country supports crime because I got away with it.
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>>507816472
yeah you are a moron for speccing into the one gimmick the ascendancy has
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>>507816049
>Ruthless mode and everyone hated and mocked it?

POE 1 is balanced and designed around the "rich" economy. Shit map mods literally require a bunch of chaos orbs to roll the bullshit like
>Reflect
>Other reflect
>No Regen
>Chaos crits
>Fuck you

Ruthless economy basically broke POE 1 systems. POE2 is different.
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>no patches or updates or anything since december 16th
Jesus Christ
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>>507816535
Moron!
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What are my options for a viable poison build?
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>>507807241
The game is designed around selling you cosmetic skins, of course the armor they give you for free looks goofy.
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>>507812250
They are currently grooming him to become the next emperor of China. His days at GGG are sadly over.
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>>507816382
>>built around the completely half assed mechanic that is weapon swapping

Witchunter is built around oneshotting entire screens and having map wide chain mob explosions.

He's fun as fuck.
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>>507816652
You have the Pathfinder option and the Chalupa option.
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>>507816637
That's only 9 business days and it's Christmas, you neet.
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>>507816363
>get any shield
>hold block infront of spears
>take 0 damage
yes it is unironically that easy
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What's the best currency making strategy right now?
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>>507816926
maps
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>>507814089
Bait. Nobody plays that game.
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These fucking axe chuckers..
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>Ghazzy is blinking through doors in his Sanctum runs
>He's exploiting bugs ON STREAM
Does this guy have no shame?
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I spent 100 USD on this free to play beta test
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>>507814758
Those cards were a mistake - a mistake that should not be repeated.
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>>507816926
500MF temporalis mapping
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Can Duelist save POE 2?
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>>507816997
armor bad life bad
right?
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>>507816872
They come from both sides at the same time in the wave. I died getting hit by 1 last time despite having tons of hp. I am not sure if the damage is poison or chaos
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>>507817202
divination cards are cool and for ssf chads
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>>507810346
update: I just fucking destroyed the iron citadel boss before he could do any of his big attacks or the mist phase, and I don't even have level 20 gem yet and my gear is trash
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>>507817216
No, but the Druid will
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>>507814897
Why would anybody be "proud" of anything when it comes to a video game, unless you win something like a world championship or a big tournament or something, there's no need to be prideful about anything. It's about not having such disrespect for your own time.
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>>507817391
Druid will be mogged by Diablo IV druid.
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>>507814536
If your first thought when seeing someone make money from RMT is "shut it down" instead of "how can I make easy money from RMT too?", then you're NGMI.
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>>507817198
Why?
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>>507817097
GGG have fallen into the void they can't do SHIT
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>>507816997
Monsters aggroing off screen and bumrushing you/throwing projectiles/casting fuck you AoE before you can see them really pisses me off in maps.
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>>507817238
its phys that poisons, maybe there is some chaos damage in there on the hit but its not much.
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>>507817385
>update: I just fucking destroyed the iron citadel boss before he could do any of his big attacks or the mist phase, and I don't even have level 20 gem yet and my gear is trash
Unjuiced citadel bosses aren't tanky at all yeah.
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>>507814536
I play SSF and I don't give a fuck about RMT.
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>>507795869
It's time for GGG to admit that these types of people shouldn't be allowed to play their computer game.
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>>507817509
low impulse control
(which is funny because the process of spending the money involved going to a supermarket and buying steam gift cards)
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>go SSF with Toxic Growth pathfinder because it seems fun
>it's decent at endgame
>everybody else is palying Poisonous Concoction because it's broken as fuck and much simpler to play
Worth respeccing?
Or is it likely going to get nerfed anyway?
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>>507817428
Found the casual
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>>507817776
everything good is getting nerfed just play whatever you want and stop caring about a game with extremely volatile balancing right now
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>>507817428
I'm proud of becoming a multimillionaire from RMT (thanks Bitcoin)
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>>507817097
how do you blink the doors???
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>>507817238
of you stand in front of one side, you literally cant get hit by the other side. MAYBE the absolute final wave can hit you when they push you in, but just roll that one.
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>game crashed in unique boss room
>come back
>boss 1 taps me OUTSIDE of the boss arena, before I could even go through the door
ok this is epic
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>>507818002
>stop caring
It's not about that I want to chase the fad, but the build is okay at best, since a lot of the mechanics are overtuned and punish slow animations like toxic growth.
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>>507818232
Yeah things like Escape Plan and Toxic Growth basically mean enemies have time to drop AoE where you're going to land. It's so silly.
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>>507818402
Those animations need to get invincibility frames while in the air, because right now you're just gonna get slapped out of the air while doing breaches and such.
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>>507816410
Not sure about league, but I should be simmilar to dota, when you die, you can get a full breakdown of your death second by second, you get to see what CC hit you at what time, how long it lasted, what source it came from, full damage breakdown by damage type.
No clue why GGG thinks this would confuse players. Its more likely that they don't want to invest effort into a feature that would display how buggy their game is.
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>>507817992
Truly a harrowing thought to not want to run through a boring-ass campaign the moment the early access game decides to act like an early access game.
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>>507818756
I would genuinely buy divines from chris' approved RMT site if it meant it would motivate them to make a death damage screen
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>>507817216
No saving it. Best bet is to scrap it and all the devs involved and start over.
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>>507817463
Yep, that's already clear from the gameplay preview.
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when is poe3
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>unique costs 300 tributes

They really don't think highly of uniques, huh.
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> 2 copper citadels on 1 screen
we eating GOOOOOOD tonight
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>>507819126
that's 300 for a chance shard
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how much health should I have for my first citadel?
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>>507818087
I don't know but he does it on stream and people pay him for their ascendancy points.
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i want chance shards to drop more often
i like gambling for uniques even tho theyre almost exclusively absolute dogshit
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>>507819126
Given that the vast majority of them are fucking worthless, yeah, they should be cheap. Honestly I don't even know what's the Vision™ with all these utterly worthless uniques.
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>struggle hard as fuck to sustain maps
>get a good roll one
>it drops two of same level and a few below
>run next one I got from it
>3 more
>it snowballs

You just have to be fucking lucky once? This sucks.
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>>507817524
It is a sign of fundamentally flawed game design.
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>>507795869
TBQH family if they want people to "feel the weight" T1-5 should be 6 portals, T6-10 4 portals, T11+ 2 portals. Atlas tree point = more loot but half the number of portals. Everyone gets what they want. Endgame you get 1 portal or you can be a lootlet with 2 portals.

Let shitters shit. 95% of players aren't going to progress past T5 maps. Give them their 6 portals.
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wish me luck bros. making my own invoker ice strike build after following alk's titan and fubgun's deadeye.
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>>507819514
To clog the loot table with worthless junk that on first glance looks exciting when you see and hear that orange text drop. They are specifically designed to both release and drain your dopamine at the same time. Some kind of psychological engagement strategy I'm sure.
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>>507819841
>tfw play mostly gacha and arpg
what's happening to my brain?
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>>507819841
Chance orbs are like 6c(ex) each so it's not that bad.
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'pochGAWDS won.
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>>507819927
and a useful unique has what chance to roll? 0,03%?
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>>507819849
BIS for the dad gamer that just takes so much dmg while spamming his zdps 90 mana ability at lvl 22 that he needs to chug constantly. So, no, that shit's not even usable by retards, what the fuck were they thinking, if at all.
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>>507818756
Some kind of damage recap would be a good thing for new players (like myself) to understand damage types and resistances.
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>>507819717
>"following" some limpdicks
>game is not even out
never understood this kind of retardation
is playing the game and trying to figure out your own path too much for modern gamers?
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>>507820126
didn't they say the rarest tier of uniques is like one in 10,000 chance orbs
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Is blood mage leech actually bugged or where people just confused because it barely does anything until you scale your dps?

>>507819849
Yeah, its pretty strong if you're level 20 amd haven't put on body armour yet
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>>507819841
Memba when Chris said they were never going to make a bad unique ever again and that they were going to rework all uniques to be good and then they immediately abandoned that plan and released a bunch more shitty uniques and didn't rework any more uniques? Good times.
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poe2 builds are paint by numbers prebuilds from the devs so I don't know why you'd need to copy a streamer
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>>507820342
Ever since I got it I've felt I survive way more often.

Game needs test dummies.
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>>507820342
it's fine for survival while leveling but your leech can't overflow max hp (which is the entire point of blood mage) so it has no purpose
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>>507820242
>20 ex per normal stellar amulet
>5 ex per chance orb (probably cheaper, didn't look)
Only 250000 ex per astramentis, holy poggers. Time to gamba!
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>>507820412
Because you're not going to do endgame on a non-broken, non-cookie cutter build.
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>it takes 4.8 million t1 waystones to make ONE t15 waystone
>each cost 5000 gold
Yet /poe2/ defends GGG.
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>ice monk
>act 3 bosses M E L T
>have 10% res
lol
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>>507820598
just don't be unlucky. simple as
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>finally get to maps
>see 5 portals on the device
>die in my first map because i have 10% chaos res and theres guys spamming purple flowers at me
>ok ill go back
>all portals are gone

why are there even portals?
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i just want to play poe 1 again.
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>>507820225
Nta, but casually you don't have time to try all skills to see which are good. It's natural to see what other people are doing. Now, you don't have to exactly copy the builds, but that's just the next step logically.
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>>507821112
but... you can
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>>507821095
>why are there even portals?
So fubgun can lug loot out.
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>>507821095
mtx
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having a brainlet moment.
Does Charged Staff automatically consume my pwer charges? Because the button does never work and I use combat frenzy and resonance keystone to turn frenzy into power.
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>>507821506
Once you press the button you'll see the buff at the top of the screen. You don't need to do anything else til the buff is nearly expired.
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>>507821095
To bring back loot and recharge flasks I guess? I also think it would be fair if there were maybe 2-3 portals, but you could return after death. Or six portals and death consumed two or three.
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>>507821591
ah dang I was thinking it is automatic because I never see a charge around my character.
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>>507820680
GGG hire this man.
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if they really want to have this well flask system, they should double or triple max flask charges, and reduce charges gained from monsters by a similar amount so you actually have a reason to fill up occasionally. as it currently stands I never ever use wells because I can gain too many charges and their max capacity isn't big enough to warrant going back to refill
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It's harder for me to try out shit in poe2 because I can't just put on a white shirt and try things at 6 sockets. I rarely even see gem socket currency drop it's so fucking dumb.
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>>507822217
I've had some pretty decent luck picking up max linked gems for 1div on the trade site, but it can take a bit of live searching
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>>507821958
I sure want to leave map 3 times to refill flasks
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I am reporting people ingam left and right
You will not tarnish my globalchat
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REEEEEEE I NEED REGALS
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>>507822342
how much are you chugging jfc
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>>507822382
>ingam
Ladies and gentlemen, democracy manifest
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this shit will be the end of me
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>>507822750
>>507822750
>>507822750
>>507822750
migrate
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>>507822540
you talked about tweeking the numbers sow e have to drink
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post your currency tab bros
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wtf
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I never played PoE1 but am lvl 90 titan and cringing at how pathetic/slow my clear is compared to lightning deadeye, archmage spark sorc, or tri attribute monk and being behind on currency because I farm so dogshit slow. Is the legit only way to fix it just to level up another class and farm the shit out of lvl 82 maps where I instantly kill shit with 1 button like the top builds and never get hit? Spark + blink sorc is already x3 faster than stampede titan and if you can farm a temporalis then it's literally <5 min to finish a T16 map with 2 breaches wtf.
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path of exile community needs to band together and continue quin69 subathon until 2025 so he is forced to do clown week. learn to ride a unicycle and do a clown cosplay for a week straight. lets go gamers



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