first time baker editionWizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphneCurrent Events:Fighter Proving GroundsBanner 2025/4/3〜2025/4/30Arboris, Lord of the Deep ForestFREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week: store.wizardry.infoA new Abyss, the Guarda Fortress, has been addedOfficial wiki:https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_DaphneGeneral Information:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzTavern/Camp choices:https://rentry.org/2gngvv2nJP Fanguide:https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/Friend Code:https://rentry.org/SavoryRiskTier Template:https://tiermaker.com/create/wizardry-variants-daphne-17631789Thread Template:https://rentry.org/DaphneTemplatePrevious >>520927987
Chloe.
Last prediction for next patch>half-annie grinding event>no new banner>free reclass book(behind 20 hours of grinding)
Saviabros...
What is the intended point to grade up to bronze? I don't want to get fucked by everything scaling up when my gear hasn't gotten any stronger but I also can't tell if it's intended for me to already be 40 since the enemy levels are all just listed as ???Currently working through the port abyss arena for the first time.
>>521060347Thank you for the bake
>finally go do the bronze exam>an encounter every 3 stepsand to think it gets worse than this...
>>521060756Predictions>Literally nothing, not even a tweet about it.
>>521061208someone said the iron exam is actually easier
>>521060756Dread it. Run from it. Dwarf banner arrives all the same.
>>521061208First 3 exams are about moving to the nearest poison pool and resetting if the boss doesn't show up.
>>521061208actually it got worse, the succubus wind spirit mob one shot my thief so i revived him but the game bugged and now i cant do anything
>get good enough gear to auto battle abyss 1 floors 7 and 8>never go to the inn so high grade members don't level up to get max xp when changing classesThis is kind of annoying but this is the fastest I can sleepwalk grinding, its was better then waiting 12 hours for to only 2 characters.
>>521061101How come you never thank ME?!?!
>>521061515>SUCC'DProtip: While it's very hard to outspeed succs, your mage can outspeed most mobs including the wind spirit with enough ASPD, ~60. Mages are in charge of dropping their la spells as early as possible to get rid of as many enemy as possible before they can act.
>>521061950Gimmie gimmie money
>Beat up boat>Learn that its not the true form>Read mermaid kidnapping and rape stories>Get melgina to kill herself>Fight boat again>It revives>Completely wipes my team out twice>Can't Hook of Harken outIs this the part where i undress MC and accept death?
If I'm too weak to farm abyss 3 floor 5, is it better to farm abysst 3 floor 2 or go back to farm abyss 2 ship?
>>521062739If you need weapons go farm the abyss 3, if you need anything else go farm shipAlternatively you can try your luck and farm the sentry at abyss floor 1.
I have to wheel to Fresh start > King's rescue as part of my respawning items farming, but the rubble on B8 and god knows what else seem to reset every time. Is this unavoidable?
>>521063074Does it drop anything good?
>>521062494If you've done all the side quests then you have to kill her twice and she stop reviving, after she goes down the 2nd time the next phase of the boss fight starts
>>521063332Hey I know this comic
>>521062008thanks, i finally got to the boss which was way easier than the rest of the cave>tfw out of tags now
>>521063207Higher chance of better lootIf it ever drops lmao
>>521061515if you have fast thief like debra you can delay enemy using skills
what's with the reviving spinner in the 2nd floor
>>521065387exp farm
>>521065387if you kill her 10000 times you get extra 100 legendary bones
>>521065387The crutch in case you need a few levels before tackling the boss. As a god gamer myself I never farmed it though.
cant wait for her banner
>>521063332at what level should i be fighting that thing? I'm at level 50 and sleep bombardments got me so many times.
>>521065739>>521065885But there's a quest for it or something. At least I saw a pop-up about investigating it...
>>521066807Realistically lvl50 is the appropriate levelYour gear is probably lacking if you're having problem with them
>>521066997And a ching chong nip nong to you good sir
>>521066613Would only work if she was the common in a double pull banner.
>fighting vampire>he casts balafeos on his burst down turn>he one shots one of my party members all of a sudden (despite only dealing 49 damage the previous turn, wtf is this inconsistent damage)>one fo the FPS misses>a bad roll put him just under 20% on with only 1 FPS leftThere's so much rng to this shit. I fucking hate this event so much.
>>521061208Bronze is the hardest exam.
>>521070451The whole game is RNG anon. Most bosses don't have set patterns, they either sandbag or go "Fuck you, I win".
>>521061054Just alter the line bro
>>521070847I just thought having 3 fully geared level 60s and a well thought out strategy should've been enough. I'm surprised with how much bs this game throws at you really.
>>521060347is there anywhere i can see scaling on skills? i have three gandolfo sitting in my inventory, one in permanent mausoleum, and one in crucible, so i could get heavy attack lv4 for my mc and level 2 for someone else if i really wanted to.
What's the best way to farm gear if I'm level 40? I'm at the 3rd arena fight.
>>521071372
>>521071372Heavy attack hits breakpoints at level 3 and 5, so 4 isn't worth it unless you push past to 5.>>521071456Open chests in the top half of ship floor 2 for a few dozen hours and reverse the 5k junk you get.
>>521071456Harken to the 1st floor of the ship.Climb up 1 level.Grab all the chests in the first few rooms.Go back down and harken out of the dungeon.If you're aren't too injured, immediately harken back to reset the chests.
>>521071901>>521071782Is there any hope of getting good shit at that level or will it just be 1 star irons? I'm still not too sure whether the only good equipement I have is from fixed chests.
>>521071641why the FUCK is auto attack higher, is it assuming level 1 follow-up attack?also thanks but is there somewhere i can find this so i don't have to ask for every skill?
>>521072991nip sites
>>5210725163 star steel and elemental steel grade 3 star junk
>>521072991Auto attack scales linearly.Most skills have a soft cap that reduces scaling effectiveness as ATK/MAG gets higher, think of a log curve.
Never trust free green bones
>>521073082...okay but which nip sitessearching ウィズダフネ 強撃 gets me gamerch wikiwiki and kamigame as the first results and none of them have it as far as i can tell
>>521073231Good enoughThanks
>>521073234weird. i guess the idea is to make you want the new op skills from higher levels instead of just running max level launch skills until eos?
>>521073639*New op skills from the gacha
>>521073461also 4 star iron which may be better with good blessings especially if its rings/smaller armor parts
>>521073639Effect softcaps does make sense from a design standpoint.Let's say someone finds a way to get 1k ATK and/or MAG through buffs, substats, or some other trick. Without softcaps, he will do 5x the damage of the same char with 200 ATK/MAG. With softcaps, you can moderate this down to say 2.5x. This way, you just need to adjust the boss to have 2x hp to remain challenging for the 1k ATK/MAG guy without being impossible for the 200 ATK/MAG guy.Many RPGs do something similar in implementing a damage cap, if it takes you at minimum 10 turns to kill a boss, it gives the boss 10 turns to try and RNG something for a modicum of challenge.
>>521074437That all impressive, but new gacha skills do way more damage and have way "softer" softcaps, still being above 3 dmg per 1 atk even with 500 atk
>when your ninja crits the daily necromancer
why does this game run so ass on PC.>EmulatorBluestack is ass, LD is laggy>SteamShitty anticheat; Stuttery mess, especially in combat that's worse than the mobile version and even the emulator. Like seriously x2 auto stutters after every hitHow do I win
>>521074437okay but basic attacks are doing higher damage than skills which consume resources. that's the part that's weird. though i guess you could argue you're paying for the increased accuracy, not the damage.
>>521074743You don't "win" with glorious nipponese code refactored over 10000 times.
>>521074743>Stuttery messWorks on my machine, it's as smooth as Olive's ass at 144hz and not trying to force vsync or anything
>>521074743>How do I win
>>521074996it's specifically just combat that's fucked. Every where else is great mostly. Emu is laggier but doesn't have any drops, just kinda bad all the time and consistent
>>521074437Unless they want to keep implementing skills as powerful as FPS with each new cap upgrade, they’re going to need to play with the cap math eventually.Right now it seems like the design paradigm they’re aiming for is something like “raising the rank of lower level skills is just a nice bonus to make things slightly easier” but it’s hard to tell with just two previous examples.
>>521075328Never heard of anyone with that issue on Steam, but yes the emulators are laggy shit for everyone, pretty sure.
>>521074743are you from USA by chance?
>>521074714>build kiriha with full luck>give him level 6 followup attack>dual wield kunais>criticals all day every day.
>>521074437>Effect softcaps does make sense from a design standpoint.Yeah, the design of making you whale or get fucked.
>>521076238Luck does nothing for Crits, someone said
>>521076276Yeah it's to pump followup attack.
bros, I just got destroyed by bronze exam. Do you still retain the exp if you haven't raised the level cap?
>>521077325yes till 60lv cap for now, so around ~4.2mln for normal classes and ~10mln for ninjas
>>521077428nta but Jesus forget the tags to Orichalcum, just getting the exp to get to that level will take 10 years of playtime lmao
>>521077630yep, the longer you thinks about this shit the worse it look>skills leveling>tags>exp>weapons upgrading
>>521077832why are fighters like this
>>521077947>>521077832>oh god, make them stopnot so smug now
>Shagtits one shots me at the arena every single time I try to go there and bide timeGuess it's time to grind up to 50...
>>521078496No, just block and buff.
>>521078496Just fap to paizuri and he will be appeased, giving you an easy win.
>>521077832>>521077947
>>521078640Can't block when he goes first always and ALWAYS targets me for some fucking reason and oneshots me.
Does anyone remember where you have to wheel to to get "death stench investigation" to show up again?fresh start,minor harken, major harken didn't work.
>>521079201fresh start and you actually need to go to floor one
>>521079289Thanks!
>>521079610wait it worked? i was just messing with youdamn
>>521079129He's even faster than your thief?
That's right. Now I eat YOU.
>>521079789Yeah, even if he's at 65 ASPD, which is probably not a lot but it's all I have.
Is server shitting itself again?
https://x.com/4GamerNews/status/1897542714566303874 I hope this man stays based
wasn't the permanent event supposed to come out today?
Is this shop as grindy as the last one? I still haven't started it lol
>>521082053Its not grindy, but the gate requires 3 fighters with 600 str to open.
>>521082016I would imagine it won't be up until after maintenance (~13 hours from now).
>>521082360>600 strwtf is bro talking about
>>521082571its a joke, does your lvl 30 fighter have 200 str?
>>521079715Yeah, fresh start and going to the wp and going back to town made it finally show up.
>>521079129Just shove MC in back row
>>521082053The fighter event? No. Do beginner once, intermediate twice, advanced 5 times and you're done. And the dungeon isn't even long. Spam full power strike as hard as you can, bring scrolls of shared power and ultra potions.
>>521082703nooooooooooooi have been bambozled
>>521082815You don't have to do the others if you just do Advanced.
>>521082815You can just do Advanced 5 times and it counts for the others.
Oh.
>>521070847>>521071202This boss literally has a set pattern. People are clearing it at level 50. Missing FPS
>>521083163Not always, no. I've had it do funky stuff on some of my attempts but I don't exactly know why. Same with the minotaur.
>>521083347He will randomize between Balefoes, Mazeleos, Zelos, attack, etc. The attack ramping is consistent with every enemy in the dungeon. He cast Kaltu and Vampire Bat at fixed point when his HP is low, the latter of which can be played around consistently.
>>521060347nude lulu...lulunude...
>>521083163It's not 100% set. He can randomly hit you with level down or other debuffs, which can essentially force an auto-loss.
the priest proving grounds is going to be hell...
>>521084204*secret arts of labadios u*
>>521083941>One character Level down is auto lossMaybe if you are bad at the video game and cannot coordinate your team to FPS in the same turn.
>>521084204mage alice bros...
>>521084449Enter, light element angels
>>521084204Just wait for the elemental proving grounds and of course you will fight your weakness
>>521083941If you have 3 characters using FPS in a round and only require 2 to land to kill him, you win 100%
Is there a Refinement and alteration guide?This seems to be something you can fuck up hard
Best use for my first alice dupe? I kinda think having a mage alice separately would be nicer than inheriting but im also a level 30 noob
>>521085463Inherit onto other mages or priests, especially MC if he is one of those/will be one. The extra de/buff duration is very handy
Imagine Skipping Berkanan
>>521085801how well does her unique skill scale?
I can't enhance from my storage?
I know gerulf gets a bonus for using 2h maces but they feel so weak, is it worth just swapping to an axe or smth?
>>521085408https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/adventurer-customization/blacksmithing/is pretty good except the estimates under Enhancement Value are completely wrong so just ignore it
>>521084548Level down can let him live triple FPS and then bats. Also, I'm not taking advice from a retard who didn't even know he could level down at all lmao. You should probably stop posting and go get more kills on him so you can actually know what you're talking about.
>>521086029You can but you have to enable it in the filter
Was there an update?
>>521086039his bonus work for all twohanders
>>521086236Doesn't workI will just equip every piece to some unit I guess
>>521086568I mean this
>>521086502yes, they nerfed drop chest rate in guarda and in proving ground
Should I be manually managing equipment or just hitting auto equip and pray?
Why is Lana like... this? Even her full story doesn't explain shit. How did she become so whiny?
>>521086932Fuck auto equip. It will put slop heavy armor on your frontrow slowing them down and trash 1 handed weapons
>>521087071Rape
>>521087071there was always two of themthe whiny princess and her body double
>>521086750No, without a blunt weapon it's basically just heavy attack.
>>521086756I always thought Guarda was too generous, 1 chest per 100 fights seems more fair to me.
>>521087071she was a cum toilet in her previous life bro
>>521086502They emergency hotfixed a number of exploits that I reported
>>521087189I see. So Wana is the real one?
>>521087307elmon pls chilli wanted to tell you how to double your gems exploit but not anymore
>>521085881I don't know. I don't know how any skill scales. Only that they all stack between each other.
>>521087416No, the game literally contradicts this
>>521087187>>521087269Where is this explained? I'm pretty sure I have all her pages unlocked
>>521087416lana is real, wana is her twin that eloped
Just started abyss 2 and got a few sahuagin scales. I remember someone saying I will need them later. Should I not be selling them at the item shop?
glad they fixed the right click on target = confirm bug during combat
>>521087687I dun get it
>>521087754>>521087071there was at some point a mix up between Lana and Wana and VirginLana got ChadWana's backstoryChadWana went on adventures with her lover while virginLana stayed in the rape dungeon
>>521087840Yes, you will need 5 of them for a quest later, but they are valuables that you shouldn't be selling outside of an event anyways.
>>521087754https://exhentai.org/g/809678/7b87feaf49/
>>521087840keep like 10 in the bag
>Kill all 4(5) undead boats on ship's floor 1>The guy issuing the request literally says: "Fuck off I'm not paying extra for doing the entire thing, bye."
>>521087754We won't know anything concrete until her character quest is released but we know that 1. she's in chains2. she completely mindbroken like she's been mentally tortured3. her fireside chat talks about failing to win people over4. her bio talks about her disappearance and rumors that she had been overthrownSo we can probably assume that her retainers betrayed her, probably because she's a strong warrior but a weak and naive ruler.There's some fuckery because her and wana's bios are mashed together, her bio was even more bugged during the first months
>>521088478i kind of like iarumas, he is chill, berka is on another hand highly annoying
>>521088682I like both. Berka is a rather rare "Overpowered Dork" character rarely seem in gacha games. Iarumas is "I'm actually competent" guy who's "actually competent" and doesn't job later to someone "who's actually competent" - for example the Pyromancer dude in Solo Leveling.
>he took them both
>>521089079>who's "actually competentHe was cooked like a fried shrimp when we found him
>>521089420Yeah that's the origin source reference. Just like:>Berka being the Dragon Slayer>Iarumas commenting on all the different spells that we could've used in adventures>His:"Some desire Cursed Swords, Some Money, Some Fame" quote is also in the eventThe Manga/Ranobe starts with Sezmar finding his corpse.
>>521089420Well lets see you solo that fuckin dragon...
>>521089657Iarumas also makes references to using a cable and turbo file to transfer characters between games.
>>521090014OKI am actually one of those event dwarves with 10k HP
Good god, please bring us daily quests where you can at least earn one guild tag, if the retards at drecom have to keep the whole guilt tag shit around in the first place.
>>521087091They're spilling over!
>>521090308I told drecom that tag fomo is likely their greatest avenue for profit, they said they'd be reducing future tag events
>>521089196Cute
>>521090515thanks elmon, you are our gayest ally
>>521090515That retarded Elf is already the most hated character in the game, you don't have to do all this you know.
>>521090308You are so greedy... you LITERALLY have weekly tag sales at the cash shop, why are you complaining????
I hate Lulu more though
>>521090938>implying
Sabatons.
Todays patch will fix the game
>>521091152>>521091249Lulu is a mascot. Her mocking MC only bolsters her likability.Elmon is a "Lawful Good" who's simply too autistic about it to the point she appears immature. Lulunarde literally called herself "Legendary Adventurer" so she's Adamant level - Can solo entire capital city's knight regiment that protects it(If we take that: lvl 20(Lead grade) 6 men strong adventurer team is enough to kill Helmut, as a rotor).It's like comparing a fly that "Does her best" and a Golden Dragon thats "lazy on purpose".
We love Lulu here
Once you get 300 attack you just auto?
>>521092012cute essay but even the op post is luluhate
Who is "We"?
>>521093658>300 attackThat's Berkanan with Dragon Slayer level 15. You did buy HS books from fighter event for her to overwrite autoattacks right?>>521094105Me and my Tulpa
>>521089196I'll take both her holes once she gets her body back
>>521093658At 200 attack you should be auto instead of using any lvl 1 skill, unless you are accuracy deficient.
>>521066807You can do it at level 40 quite well if you know the fight and have adequate gear, but the adventurer/gear requirement is more strict. My impressions after having killed him twice at 40:-No fire element adventurers, they will get rekt by dot+bombardment combos once you start the final phase, and their dps will be mediocre at best.-Have a backrow with 2 priests / 1 mage, or 1 mage + 1 priest + 1 mage turned priest (you really want 2 healers for the phases with dot+bombardments, and you'll need to have enough MP to cover healing for the 5th and last fight both)-Frontline ideally should be 3 fighters, my thief MC or usual thief did dogshit damage (could never seem to crit, might be an issue for me). You'll be heavy strike spamming.-Always keep cortu, then baltigrief up.Cortu has to be up at all times, especially in the last phase where you can get def/mdef debuff on your whole team.-Deck your adventurers with earth gear (both hat/armor/weapon) this will make a very big difference defense wise.-Bring at least one or two consumables to cure fear on all party members, you don't want your clerics stuck with fear 2 or 3 turns.Ideal setup at level 40 imho would be:-Gaston/Elise-MC (Fighter, earth element if possible)-Benjamin (biggest mvp in abyss 2 anyways)-Daniel/Galina/Alice as priests-Yekaterina or Jarmil ideally for higher hp pool (but you can use any other mage, just keep in mind in the last phase you'll want to keep them topped when they get the dot on them, make sure they have potions to top themselves). Your mages are just here to debuff/cortu and sleep the adds the boss spawn. If they get some free turns to dps all the better but it's important they keep these buffs and debuffs up.It's also important to try to do the 5th fight using with the less amonut of resources you can. You might want to bring some of the 25sp recovery consumables and use them before the fight, and top your hp with potions before starting the fight.
>>521061054Thats mine. Hand it over
>>521078496Just pray to rnjesus so he doesn't go for the mc on the first turn, or put him on the backrow, and then spam defend. It's an infuriating fight for sure. >>521086029You need to enable 2 settings in the filter, the Storage/Not in party fitler in the first part, and the "Not equipped" filter in Equipement status.>>521087840Keep them, you need 5 for a quest (so 15 in total if you do 3 routes).
Lulurape
What's the trick for the 3rd arena fight? Is it related to the garlic? I gave it to the head cook but afaik it didn't do anything.
If Lulu is so good where is her Rabi?
what do i do with the pickaxe now
>>521098085Its Doro age. Rabis are old news.
how often is the exp event? wondering if I should use the remaining days to farm exp or improving gear by doing trade channel or den of earth
>>521093658If you have enough accuracy, yes. Remember HA and FPS have accuracy bonuses.
Beastfolk stink tier list?
>Double chest crash into softlock still not fixedsasuga
>>521100413i've been able to do doublechest tiles a couple times no problem so there's probably multiple iterations of the bug and they only fixed one condition
>some nip farmed the cyclops 500 times and wrote down his dropscould you say the rates are about the same for the proving ground vampire?
>>521101029I can't read moon runes
>>521101029impressive autism
>>521096040>Not equippedThanks, makes sense
You guys did not lie, the iron exam was easy as shit. I'm almost disappointed.
>>521101595Steel exam is actually even easier because the random encounters aren't fucking cancer AND the boss doesn't move. Just make sure you've got an evasion tank for the minotaur. Or just a bunch of dudes with spears.
>reach the last fight of the arena>I ask for the Incan gold expecting none of the answers being consequential to the final fight>it actually isI'm never again taking anything for granted with this game.
>>521098085Sorry, but the earliest days of /wizg/ said Doros were the true sign of 'making it'.
>>521102206this doro was made by a certain ghost bitch
I'm not going to be charmed a single time!
>>521101029Why are they like this
>>521102975*jingle a bundle of gems in front of you*
KISS YOUR TIGHT LITTLE PINK ANUSES GOODBYE
>>521102975>toleranceWho's gonna tell him
>>521102114It's always the Incan Gold what gets you.
>>521101131first one is chest drop ratesecond is cyclops loincloth dropraterest is junk
Reminder that the starving vampire bat attack is a COUNTER that's specifically there to stuff your FPS spam. Just warrior's cry when you see it.
>>521102975I was, in fact, charmed multiple times over. Thankfully it only took me two tries as she barely did the waltz in the second go, looking forward to crushing that bitch in the future.Now for my 3.99 bundle haha......
>>521060347/our/ guy made a second part for his Wizardry series!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw8nByS33To
>>521106635Wizardry... broke me...
>>521061779Were the balls really necessary?
>>521109628Im pretty sure it's a pic of an actual dog
>>521104852Enjoy your 3,69 pack anon :)
need harpy adventurers........
>>521106635lmao, this is hilarious; I'm loving it
>>521111853we don't even have one quirky race adventurers right now
>>521106635some really fucking gorgeous manuals are shown in these videos; do anyone know were one could get these in that resolution?
>>521112349what is a mook
>>521112154Fairy banner after tonights patch, trust the plan.
>>521106635ninja fairy bwos... our time is getting close...
>Guarda daily>Vampire>It's the first time i see one>Acts first>Two turns>Mazelos>MazelosOh ok then
>>521113612This is why i keep shilling mdef and -kin blessing back rows.
>>521110086It's not, the head looks very realistic but the legs are clearly 3D.
>>521112671Fairy bishop banner(male)
New event in some hours, are you guys excited?
>>521115728I hope I won't be able to clear it fully because I'm not lvl 60 + Ebosteeled.Yeah that's the stuff. That's the savoring.
>>521115728No idea what quests they are adding but I'm not expecting an event
>>521115728i hope it doesnt have the jank level scaling from the bb event
>>521115728Did they announce it somewhere or are people just assuming?
>>521115728NOOO STOP FUCKERS I'M TRYING TO GET THE FUCKING TRUE ENDING IN GARUDA!
>>521106635this is fun stuff
How significant are the elemental formation buffs? Should i even bother to level up alex, jean, etc
>>521116613Pretty good. I would especially level up jean to boost yeka for fast event nuking.
>>521116613>>521116841What are the actual numbers? I've only ever matched alignements in the front and back for Lana/Alice boost.
>>521116983like 10%
>>521106635the more you see the video the more you understand why the japanese have completely fell in love with Daphne. It's such a Wizardry game, it's literally a fucking miraclethe game director (Jean) was a chosen one; I wouldn't change *anything* about his vision on how this game should be, because he gets it>b-but new players!ok, bye
>>521116613Daniel unironically helps out a lot against second abyss boss
>>521117115Do you need these specific members or does it work for everyone?
>>521117328It's the Formation innate, so yeah it has to be them, connected to two others.So you can do something likeBenjamin-EliseJean--------Yeka
>>521112607Look in to the mirror!
>>521118658Nyo…
>>521118658
>>521118658I only see a goon
>that dweeb who unironically makes screenshots from youtube videosUtterly pathetic.
>>521117170>>521112758ima show you something cool. right click the video twice, and then click "take snapshot".
>>521120289and i'll show you something even cooler: get sharex
Is the strat with the eyeball fuckers on the Guarda wall to accept death once and then try again?
>>521113612make MC dark elementgrab the well ability that lets you sometime raise 2
You have to eat the dango.
Reminder to always enjoy the adventure
>>521121341I look like this and talk like this
>>521121341>TypelessLiterally the best Daphne. Optimal for any encounter.
>>521121064After you get Golem powers, from that point on you only have to fight one set of them before GWO instead of twoThere's no further 'strat' than getting 90+ evade so they miss
Why the steam version goes to install the patches on the C drive instead of where you installed it
Cum on Lana's face
what to do when bronze exam boss spam aoe and stun lock the front row?
>>521121862Glorious nippon programming folded a 1000 times
>>521121341literally me
>>521121064Pray they spam skill bind, then normal attack with 2h axes to save resources. Have evasion n get lucky.
damn 2 free bones and I actually got him, must be all the fucking money I spent on this game
>>521121902Funny how she used to miss it all the time and suddenly her aoe move is more accurate than sting
>>521123392gz anon, on that note does anyone know if you still get a decent amount of aspd from inheriting his skill?
>>521123392dex boon with 100 fort, dunno how I should allocate though
>>521115728how many hours until the event ?
>>521121341
>>521125547we don't know if or what they're planning yet, but typically it occurs late at nightI think of it as starting thursday morning for my schedule
>>521117170>vision>gachaPick one. The only "vision" he has is how much money he can squeeze out of whales.
>>521121765I'll probably just wait until the next event because I don't have enough evasion gear for half the party and I really cannot be bothered farming Guarda
>Abenis's Flutterdream Flash equipped with Isabella's warhammer bonks this guy and stuns him>Somehow he doesn't break stun for 7 turns>Eventually breaks out and 1-shots my teamfug, this guy has a lot of HP
>>521125958>Isabella's warhammer>abenis>lvl 40wasn't that hammer from the first event back in january? upgradelanding a 7 turn stun though was pretty badass
i cant go back to older blobbers now....
so... if i wana switch yeaka to priest i should lvl up her as a mage first to get neat spells as a priest right ?
>>521127306yes, you want to know the mage spells before you switch
what type of enemies are they gonna put in the 4th abyss? surely they cant be worse right
>>521128361nigga this is a wizardry game. You will get Necrocore with Dolls as a regular encounter.
>>521128361Ninjas
I'm surprised we haven't gotten spiders yet
I know marianne is considered the 'best' SR priest, but isnt it kind of actually bad, since you really want latumofis levels, she'll realistically never discipline up
>>521128361going by how these games usually play out, i think it will just be stronger enemies with some outliers next time.guarda seems like it was made to test you with it's crazy traphouse bullshit.
>>521128361Ones where you need 300 evasion minimum
>>521128361it will be a true wizard dungeonenemies will be phys resistant and every encounter will be split so 1 aoe will only hit 1/3 of weakness, i.e. 2 weak to fire, 2 to water, 2 to windin every other fightand they will all highly prefer using aoe elemental dmg row spellsthis will fuck with the eva / atk playersand the new FOEs will try to spam spellbindalso getting to the final boss will have 1 last harken before starting an epic teleport maze that require to plot points across 4 floorsit will be absolute peak
Is there a way to build shortcuts in f8 of first abyss?
>>521129369No, but enemies don't respawn until you leave the dungeon.There are 2 camping spots in the dungeon and F8 has big open spots. You are suppose to learn to juke opponents and run past them or clear them out before running back to camp and return.
>>521128791You only really need latumofis lvl3 on yourself
>>521129369After we learn Jump we'll be able to skip most of the map
i know it might be too much effort for drecom but please add a bestiary
bruh, the curse doll run away on my daily quest...
>>521131950have your first guy act then close the game and relaunch
>>521131742Whenever my guys tell me we're fighting an enemy not encountered before I started looking all over the place to see if there was a bestiary or something. Got pretty bamboozled with that one.I wish for it too, since it could register what are the enemy stats, most importantly their HP at your current level, and what kind of status effects can even stick to them.
>>521128361Fishman ninjas
I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN I HATE FISHMEN
>>521133681That's exactly why we hired you, Benjamin.
When I bring my party members who got killed by traps (bolt) back to the surface, they sometimes have 1 hit point again. Why is that? Not that I'm complaining, of course.
>>521134001The Abyss is a mysterious and chaotic place, anon. Nobody knows how it works, not even their creators.
>>521133681*jumps on your backrow**shoots you with a paralysing arrow**AoEs your frontrow*Pshhh... nothing personnel, kid.
>>521060347DOES POISON NOT END ANYMORE??? HOLY SHIT
>>521134951poison? ending?wrong game bro
>>521134951Critical poison never ends.
>>521134001Did you fix a Greater Harken on that floor or later? Then that's Harken's protection reviving your allies.
I miss OG Fishmen anon. I wish I saved his post.TFD!
>>521135264Where are the greater harkens in the water port town? I only manged to go to floor 5 of it.
>>521128361Knights that actually use knight abilities properly so you can't attack the back line until they are dead. The back line is also three priests.
>>521135325QRD?
Why does my barbara do so little damage? Are knights bad? My Wana's decent.
>>521128361The other half of the scorpion lady
>>521135672Behead fishmen. Shoot fishmen. Roundhouse kick a fishman baby into a dumpster. Etc. That pasta.
>>521133681I want Gigi as a legendary adventurer, he's the only fishman worthy of respect.
>>521134001There's some noob protections in beginner abyss, don't get used to it. You are going to get fucked by the church next time.
>are knights bad
>>521136161It happened in the water port town, though. However, the one who died and then had 1 hit point back was a level 20 thief I brought along to level up, so perhaps it only works on non-graded adventurers.
>>521135824>Are knights bad?dunking on k***gers is thread cultureLana kinda gets a pass because she's a healing totem and can change to a useful class
how to you dismiss adventurers for tags? where's the prompt for it ?
>>521136204>no detail on the inside part of the crownFake Burger King crown.
>>521135824>Are knights bad?if you want them to do damage then yes, they are horrible unless fortified strike somehow becomes mlg you bring a knight for support / defense
>>521136345tavern, adventurer list, dismissyou can also check fortitude here
>>521136204>>521136404Does no one at the Guild bat an eye at the smelly man in a mask who constantly has people with crowns in his party who is also constantly fucked about with by the capital's royals?
Love Fishmen!Give Greater healing potions to wounded Fishmen!Use Mermaid statues to flood areas for Fishmen!REILIS befuddled Fishmen and help them along their way!KINAPIC Fishmen so they can withstand unwarranted hate!MAKALTU Fishmen to enhance there stamina!MACALDIA Fishmen for virility!Deliver fertile beastwomen to become Fishmen birthers!Help deliver healthy Fishmen babies!Total Fishmen Love!
>>521135889Fishmen killed anon for his posts.F
>>521136594Adventurers are seen as violent vagrants in Daphne, they just shake their heads and whisper whatever slur that passes for nigger for adventurers
>>521136204You're okay, it's just other knights that are a letdown. It really feels like my Barbara's a waste of a slot, not that tanky, bitch damage, stun doesn't seem to proc that often.
whatzaaaaaap my fellow adventuriniggas
I demand drecom add sahaguins as an available faction going forward, they are far more noble and trustworthy than the land-devils
5% of adventurers commit 80% of the crimes in the capital, coincidence? Think not.
Port town became GRAND LEGION all thanks to the contributions of fishmen.
>>521137718I wish that fishmen anon was still around to stand up to fish like you, getting uppity and walking around on two legs like you own the land, fuggin fishiggers
If you pick neutral, you literally have no soul>Evil: I will murder babies >Good: No, murdering babies is bad! We will not murder babies>Neutral: Well maybe we can murder SOME babies. I'm not evil btw
>>521138018all beastfolk
are random merchant peddling stuff in trade channels scammers?
>>521138283Except Chloe. She one of the good ones.
>>521138230Moderation is key. If you murder all the babies, there will be no one to carry on the future. If you murder none of the babies, overpopulation will kill everyone slowly but painfully.Nootral is the thinking man's route.
>>521138765You don't solve overpopulation by murdering babies
true we must murder all elves
>>521131742>>521132268As someone working on a bestiary in my free time, what are things you and others would want to see in a bestiary?I know we can work out a decent HP window, but do we know if enemies have other stats we can work out? Elemental type/weakness/resist makes sense, same with guesswork with debuffs+afflictions, but anything else?
the real question is what species is the hatchling- I mean baby
>>521139393location and drops ig
>>521139393anal circumference
>>521139393>element>status weakness/resist>estimated hp (for current lvl cap)>location>skills enemy can use
>>521139393A lot of the things that would make sense in a bestiary from a stat standpoint would suck to nail down because of the scaling. If you'd like you can add flavor text I guess. We know goblins "Want eat feet" and the like.
i volunteer to take screenshots of the mobs unless a model ripper exists
>>521139236You do if the babies are beasts or brown.
>beastfolk used to be slaves>get buckbroken by rich humans>commit crime and naturally inclined toward violent professions>literally the most retarded and impious of all the races What did Mr Drecom mean by this
>>521140297doesn't quite fit, female beastfolk are considered desirable after all
Why did they remove the ability to give enemies healing items?
>>521141129I think they didn't, they're just limited to the low level ones no one carries around anymore.
>cursed doll in exp daily>die because vamp focus fired MC before I can move>oh, no problem I'll just rise again and do it over>go in again>now it's a minotaur with no dollAAAAA MY EXP
So, what's the deal with the squiggly fuckers on the last floor of guarda? I went to check, got locked in and couldn't even hook outI managed to kill one tri-pack but they killed one of my guys and bugged him out that i couldn't even revive him
>>521142316Evasion check enemies you must deal with before fighting the GWO. You must fight two of them on your first run but once you learn about golem powers you only need to fight one
>>521142571So i need to kill 2, then kill the boss without breaks?
how many hours until maintenance?
>>521142645I haven't done it yet but I believe so
>>521142914Little over 2 hours.
>>521142645yes, if you have halfway decent gear you can just morlis and auto attack them downif you're lucky they focus on using skill bind or frontrow, I didnt have the 90 eva backrow I see recommended here alot, but mine only took 1-2 hitsafter you kill the gwo the first time, you only need to kill 1 pack on the next fights
>>521143017>90 evaYeah my whole party has 50 eva at best, my lana probably has like 30, and everyone is lvl 50, so it wasn't easy to kill the first 3 tentacles even with burning a lot of sp/mpI just wanted the harken :c
>>521140468Need a male beastfolk dog priest for Cynocephali memes.
>>521143710oh, you've had it hard in guarda, you did well to push so farI had about 100-110~ on entire front row, back was 2 priest 1 mage, back didnt matterI'd try to find enough to get 100eva on front and maybe +10 a 2h ebonsteel axe or 2 or a dragon slayer if you got oneset small growth goals for every dayi'd avoid using sp / more than minimum mp on the sentries
>>521143710Man, what are you even doing. Go farm some better gear. You really want a bare minimum of 120~ on the frontline and ideally have at least 150.
>>521138230>neutralfags are eugenics enjoyersWtf I'm nootral now?!
>>521144676>>521144520The weapons on my frontliners are legit white 1* expulsion 2h's that i found on the first floor and slapped +5I'm pretty sure i have some thieves boots on someone that i got from my first ride on the beginning abyssNothing good drops on this place, my account might be cursed
>>521142050I reported that, you're welcome
>>521142645once you learn the knowledge on how to move the bricks, you only have to fight one pack pre gwo
>>521145283Thank... you? I guess? It's probably not a bug and it's probably not beneficial either. At the very least not unless you are a masochist who wants to get the MC killed repeatedly to reroll the daily.
>>521145206Go to floor 6 and farm the alarms for a while. It's good exp and your best farm spot for drops currently. Probably gonna be rough at first since you don't have evasion gear. Keep an eye out for 4* blues/purples with a +evasion line. Alter whatever the other line is to +evasion as well and upgrade them to +10. This will give you a decent baseline set of evasion gear.
>>521145505The doll didn't disappear before
>>521145693I'll do that, i just wanted the teleport point and was going to peace out, didn't expect to get this boned and the hook to let me down
>>521146681I don't think you can get to the Harken on floor 10 without beating the gwo first, I also sped through 7-10 today wanting to just nab the Harkens.One thing you can do is wheel back to the latest checkpoint (3rd floor of the castle or something) and it'll take you to to floor 10 and allow you to avoid having to traipse through the earlier floors when going for the gwo.
>>521145505>At the very least not unless you are a masochist who wants to get the MC killed repeatedly to reroll the daily.nta but even if your aspd is so low that the vamp goes twice, you should still live if you set MC as dark type
>>521147096That's great to know, i will be staying the fuck away from that place for a solid minute until i juice everyoneSurely we will get a GREAT gear farming event tomorrow after maint
>>521146681good news anon, if you used the f10 fountain, you can warp to that using the cursed wheel, and if you decide against fighting the boss, you can take the portal and use the f8 harkencan't use that harken until you beat the boss though
>>521146280You seem to misunderstanding something. Apparently dying and rising again lets you reroll the spawn of the daily. One spawn just happened to have a doll while the other didn't. Technically I guess you could reroll every day's spawn until it has a doll if you can find a way to consistently kill the MC when it doesn't(probably by taking a lv1 shitter and killing yourself trying to res it). This time it worked the other way around though.
>>521095023Got his ass. Going double priest with full CORTU +DILTO + BATILGREF + MASALOTU uptime really solved a lot of my problems. Thanks anon.
Is it .5 anniversary after the maintenance? 6 months of solid bricks. How time flies.
>>521147786This isn't chinaslop, jap games rarely do half annis.
>>521147512It's going to be a solid month of getting tags before i'll go attempting that shitshow again, but yeah after dying to the tentaboys the closest wheel point was the fountain
>>521148097>solid month of getting tagspurely anecdotal but I've been farming bondmates recentlythe hum-fig seems to be the quickest usually just needing helmut/octo/bronze+1-2 camp convos everyone else I've tried takes more, if you're in a hurry that could speed up the tags a bit +give a small bonus on the frontline
>>521148453I don't really plan on farming bondmates, at least not more than one elf-mag and furry-thi for my milana, even those i'm postponing as much as i can because it sounds annoying to do
So, when is the maintenance in American?
>>5211493636.2 burgers from now.
>I let the Gacha demon take over me after I got huge ass bonus from job and buy the 44 buckaroo package>Get both Debra and ArborisThanks I guess? Also heard that Debra is not that good and people are preferring the Teemu Drizzt over Debra. Should I keep her as reserve rogue for chest or make her inherit fodder?
>>521149604Debra is legit inherit fodder after drizzt, he's better at chests and has tzalik+.
>>521149363What does 1 bong translate to in America?
>>521149604bought*fuck my ESL ass for that.
>>521149363unless you're staying up all night, it's thursday in American>>521149604You should not inherit anyone until you can answer that for yourself
Maintenance is in 1 hour. Coincidentally lines up with the countdown for Black Beacon, my next step down the path of gacha degeneracy.
>>521149785>and has tzalik+What?
>>521150173He is probably talking about Astral Break where it hits like a truck and buffs the line Action Speed.
>>521150173the 20 sp nuke that has a free porto on it yeah.
>>521150032>no pc clientthats gonna be a hard sell to me
>>521150959Are they retarded, didnt they see the power of steam with several gacha games already? And they don't even have the excuse of being stubborn Japanese boomers.
>>521150032>Action RPGnah dawg
>mainteannce in 1 hour>Still no announcement about the permanent event
>>521151140They announced it will come at a later date so i'm confident they just ran out of money as it is right now to fully develop it and they are releasing the game now to start getting money.
>>521151336is there actually any confirmation about a permanent event? where are anons getting this info from
>>521151140Unironically (relatively) small indie dev.
>>521150032I had fun during the beta. Cool setting that mixes SCP with mythology and secret societies.
>>521151592Datamines
>>521151592they added a category for it,however, we have no reason to expect anything more than a minor grind event at most, keep in mind nothing has been announced, the fighter event / dark elf banner are still on going, and most steambabies haven't cleared guarda yetwe'll probably have something minor this week to get ready and then something a little more substantial popping up next week
>>521151592Read the in-game announcements for once.
>>521152714I have yet to clear abyss 2...I'm farming steel gear, dunno how much is good enough and getting my Arboris to 40 at least.
>>521152930>I have yet to clear abyss 2...I'm farming steel gear>steelgo by stats, I've cleared guarda good / the past few eventsport 3/4* iron with a decent stat or 2 will last a long time
WAIT DRECOM WAIT PLEASE PLEASE PLE
>>521155408Perish. *Enters maintenance*
I got 56 token rolls from the Elf banner, should I roll 4 more and get the legendary bones?
>>521155569AIEEEEEEEE
>finally kill vampire>GAME IS UNDER MAINTENANCEI SWEAR THAT FUCKER BETTER BE 100% DEAD BY THE TIME THIS SHIT COMES BACK HOLY FUCK
dont they warn you not to play around maintenance times. surety you arent playing gacha while having an impulsive personality type
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKKWhy is this fight literally harder than the first timeline, do the get stronger?? this doesn’t make sense
>>521156043Yes they get harder.
>>521156009>surety Take a break bro...
They're dropping the part 2 collab after the maintenance
>>521156009>surety
>>521156043is lana ok?
>>521156618She just dropped ketchup and decided to nap over it
>>521156618She's just taking a short breather
>got some free time at work>sure let's open the game and play a little>
>>521156618Spilled her spaghetti.
Dammit. I literally just started playing and I got to the point where I was able to reverse the 30 bone piles in the gacha and I only saw 2 reseults before maint started.>I have no idea what I rolledI will probably be rerolling anyways
Anti-aliasing where?
>>521157903>yur fake lines and anglesjust use lossless scaling in windowed mode or downscale your monitor by running it as a higher resolution
>>521117328Any character of the appropriate element can be used - this includes a class-changed MC and if we ever get stuff that changes character elements I imagine that will work to. The character with the formation skill must be "adjacent" to both - not strictly "beside"; you can stick the formation skill character in a corner of the party and then have a character to their immediate left/right and one in front/behind, for example.
>>521118086Pretty sure diagonal doesn't count
>>521150032looks like the worst part of hoyo aesthetic made into an entire game
>>521118086>>521159901NTA but I presume Elise in this case is being used for her "Impartial Collaborator" skill (+10% damage on front/rear Neutral alignment character) to boost Yeka's damage higher - you thus would get +20% from hitting a weakness, +20-30% for type specialization (since Yeka is Earth), +10% from Elise, +10% from Jean's formation bonus.
when can I roll for a hot bitch again
>>521160931fairy has been cancelled
>>521156043>he took them bothlevel 30 btw, taking both isnt necessary
I want to hear what the Japanese are speculating.
>>521161243it's gonna be a new legendary fighter that counters the vampire
>>521161308>Implying this is a banner week.
>>521161308Is that also who they want the most?
IT'S UP
>>521160931I guess I'm somewhat grateful they're spacing out characters worth rolling for. Arboris looks like he's smells bad and I want none of it. My gem pile for attractive women grows.
>finally started raising rinneyou know i think I'll just run the dude instead
>>521162073INTERLOPER
>>521162073kirr yor enemies?
Oh damn, it WAS a big titty dark elf
you guys think youre so funny, im not falling for it
Hope you fuckers are ready for blacksmith enhance
The new character is going to be the blacksmithHis special ability is called Extract, which has a 99% CRIT chance, but enemies leave no XP or loot behind
>>521160931You can roll for one in nikke after maint
>>521160931Arboris is right there, sis
which one will be our first kobold and what class ?
>>5211645793rd ranger
DOOMPOSTERS BTFOHOLY SHITTTTTTTTTDEVS LISTENED
2.2k gems on the mail
holyfuck they are actually fixing the whole dupe systemis this fucking real
>items that can be used to trade for general adventurers equal to the amount of Marianne pulls obtained since release
LAMP IS BACK AND ANGRIER (and permanent)
>proving grounds will be held again in the future at irregular intervalsOh no no, prepare 2 each adventurers
>>521165457NOOOO MAGEKEKS SHOULDN'T GET ANYTHING GOOD
>>521165457>Level 2 Tzalik cost less mp than 1 sasuga nips
What the fuck, this is HUGE
>they haven't fixed elemental damageAIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>521165340>>521165457NOOO BUT THE SYSTEM WAS FINE JUST GET GU-AAAACK
>>521165574Ah, going for the Grubble route of making older events permanent I see.
>>521165574NOT THE CAVENOT THE CAVE AGAIN AIEEEEEEEE
>>521165574neat i missed this one
>>521165457Critical poison soon bros, Invest your Milana now!
i was just wondering why everyone talks about heavy strike and fps but not wild strike kek
>>521165457kek. what a wild ride this game is.
But when are we getting all these changes?
>>521165492Wait, in theory you can trade for Kirihas or maybe even fairy priest/samurai if they will be slow?I was thinking at first about default standards, but new standards will be better as they are removed from crucible pool
>>521165457Wow, those are some really nice changes. I'm honestly surprised
https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/1910211934689071141Max out your Poison Attacks NOW so when they fuck it up with the update you get compensation.
And this is exactly why I haven't disciplined or used any of my skill books.
It's important to remember the devs are trying to make a good game, they're just new and retardedPlease be patient
>>521166201Wild strike is extra bricked since it does only 1 hit even if you use a 1-handed sword.
Quite possibly the most important adventurer in the game.
>>521155856IT RESTARTED THE FUCKING FIGHT EXCEPT I'M AT THE SAME LEVELS OF HP AND SP AS I LEFT IT I FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT GAME AHHHHHHHHHHHHHI'm giving up on this event, fuck it.
>>521166307You still shouldn't use them, the next update might make some other skills stronger
>>521165457>Wild Strike>Poison AttackNever used any of them. Mostly because my only fighter is MC and I already have Heavy Attack 3 with him and Poison Strike never lands poison on any boss, which are the only enemies that don't get melted by the team normally.
>>521166413holy brick almighty
>finally get pity on aboris to try and get one better than my vit boon one>get another vit boon oneI hate this game. My previous one had 9 bonus points at least, just gonna bite the bullet and level that one up.My cope is maybe his boon on his class change will be good
>>521165457disciplinebros... we lost....
>>521166435Oh and it left me in a fucking dead en corridor when I reset and at the same HP AND SP LEVELS WHY
U rike?
MaliceCHADS whats the pick here
>he disciplined?>release ze overhaul patch
>>521166541lvl 5 status cure spells healing more HP than dios/madios was unintended and getting nerfed.Mariannes for everyone!
>>521166662Don't be a bitch take the impassable trial.
>another 2k apolo gems
>>521166651>tfw director played own game for first time in 6 months
>>521166707>and no users have reached level 4 or higherUhhh bros????
>>521166707>I've pulled 0 Mariannes up to this point so I'm not getting shitStill a great change, but holy fuck.
>>521166201for some reason it misses more than autoattacks
>>521166516>he doesn't know about the upcoming VIT fixeskekarooooooo
>>521165574>Furthermore additional events will be made permanent over time, but not all events.I'm going to assume what ever events have a bond reward are guaranteed to be made perma, with collab events not getting added to the perma pool
>>521167087bloody bastard is still on the table since its inhouse, but anything else probably not
status check: how many Mariannes do you guys have?
>>521167324Looks like I just have the one
So, what exactly do you farm in the Cave of Malice?
>cave>cave>cave>caveFor the love of god can we please get some new tilesets?
>>521167447looks like codex of learning and gacha remains
>>521167324>1 50 marianne>1 60 marianne with latumofis 3 and discipline 1>latumofis 3 on MC>got another last night from old remainsMy main marianne is about to get giga boosted.
>>521167447event currency the drops are trashfinish the pass and get ores, codex and the gold then never touch it again
>>521167604>>521167789Alright, thanks.
>>5211673245, got 1000 gems
>>521167324Marianne Mage lvl 60 with Discipline 2, Latufmosis lvl 3 and 4 spare in the box waiting.I'm ready.
>>52116732410, thinking which character i should discipline with them
Can you farm crystals right now?
>>521161125Sounds like you took them both but still failed even at level 30GG
>>521166814>Wow this is dogshit.>You're just now telling me we fucked up some numbers before release?>People have been paying us for this?
>>521166707>devs are treating mariannes as if she's currencyKinda funny ngl
>>521169057>marianne has become the moneydream come true
So finally, for the Proving Grounds, other than Way of the Warrior, what are the must haves? I've been reading mixed impressions about the Ring, it seems it's either mandatory or a trap option. Heavy Strike is cheap but also easily available.
>>521166707
>aboris doing 600 damage with 110 attack at level 20Holy shit.
I got arboris on the 99th roll.......what do i do with the currencies??Also is it too late to start feeding marianne or do i still have time? I have 9 spares......
>>521169305Skill coins are on a decline. The skill adjustment announcement also mentions that they are looking at alternatives for skill inheritance.
Give it 6 more month and they will introduce universal discipline material
How are new players supposed to appraise their rolls? Just by bonus point and if the character has a name and talks?>How bad can I eff up a character by messing up its stats when signing them?
>>521169563>6 more monthsNah, that's typically something you do at half anniversary to hype people up
>>521169587Savour the risk.
>>521169670Bwo...Skill changes are for half anniversary...
>>521169563Nyo...the game is going to be casualized now...
>>521169475get the pity aboris bone to get free dupe
Holy, this is huge
Now if only they fixed the dogshit 2010 tier pricing
Alright now just overhaul the weekly class change bullshit and we can finally start to engage with the game systems beyond whenever we happen to get lucky.
I suspect the devs are going to create a bigger mess than they already have
>>521169904>New skill level up items locked behind mission passes>New skill inheritance options locked behind 10000 event currency a pop with Dragon tier boss quest to get all rewardsThey still haven't addressed the biggest issue, the insane unbalanced manual grind.
I hope they add more grind events with a boss like the dragon
>>521169705im gonna only use my human-figs, dwarf-knigs, and elf-pris until i figure this shit out
I was here before the game become casual.
>>521170246It's fine for a wizardry game to have lots of grindingI dont want to remove hardship and "clunkyness" just for the sake of it, multiple games did and they're not fun anymore.
>>521170359that is not bad ideaimportant thing is to not discipline or inherit stuff as you can always dismiss your adventurers for full tag refund + bondmate but you do not get refund on inherits or disciplines
I can get FPS level 3 with the new codex of learning pages in the malice shop. Is it worth it over FPS LV1?
>>521170359dont even touch those, you will need to dismiss them to get Tags
>>521170652Thats the best part anon. YOU get to be the brave one to try it and tell us your experience.
>>521170246the grind is what keep this game togetherI would not mind to be able setup default action for auto attacks tho(like def, spell or skill attack or heal if necessary)
>>521170652Wait until the changes, skill level 2 may be worth using now, if the buffs are good enough.
>>521170652Don't touch skill inheritance until the changes are in.>WhenSavor the risk.
>>521170667he can dismiss them and get full tag refund anytime when he get the heart on them he can get bodnmate>>521170652savor the risklike you must be really brave to invest in shit just before incoming changes
i miss the event junk, where is the best spot for farming junk? gorgon and vampire fights are kind of aids
How do you get the clear the b4f mission? getting the true end and going down the stairs and using the teleporter did nothing.
>125 low grade ores from the eventDirector-sama, i kneel...
>event is still as grindy and shit as it was beforeGlad all the newfags can experience the fun and exciting grind for chests with 100 crystals in them.
>>521170591>>521170667Do either of you have an idea if rolling Gerald is feasible for a new player who is playing through the story as a pace to actually enjoy the story before he goes away? I saw here he wasnt that great but he looks cool and that is enough for me:https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/adventurers/legendary-adventurers/details/Gerard/
>>521172124>looks cool and that is enough for mehow much gems you have?you need around 20k for guaranteed dropso you know, you you can not get him, unless your account is fresh and you gonna reroll
>>521171426>b4f missionwhich one?>
>>521171746dayum wtf
>>521172124You will never get enough gems during a banner to secure even half the pulls needed to spark. If you really want a banner character and you haven't made much progress, reroll for them. If you want to gamble without a spark lined up, then that's your risk to savour. Don't whine that nobody warned you if your luck doesn't hold.
>>521172325the clear b4f mission in cave of malice.
>they didn't buff static chest crystal drop ratewhy
>>521172802We don't have the technology just yet.
>>521172229>>521172450Ill just reroll now then.
Forgot you have to purify the flames before the elemental pieces drop, bah.
>2 thousands gems in mail
GIMMIE GIMMIE MONIEEEEE
>>52117399511 more pulls for the future Big Titty Drow fund.
>>521174175Thanks doc
Does anyone know if astral break can surety? Trying to see how much damage I can pump this thing into doing at level 20. I've already got it at 700-800 just from stacking with attack equipment.
Anyone clear the cave again to see if you get another Isabelle hammer? I'm curious if they addressed the whole 1* white unmerged shit. Not that it really matters since it's weak either way.
>>521174440nvm, got a surety. If both hits surety I could get around 1300 damage.This guy makes Iarumas look balanced.
I want to farm Den of Earth for Earth equips. At which point it starts dropping earth junk? Is level 40 enough?
>>521175339Literally as soon as you unlock it. There is no scaling.
>>521175339>At which point it starts dropping earth junk?lollmaojust go farm abyss and forget about earth junk
>>521175339it always drops earth junk, its just a little uncommon compared to the ores. its pretty painless if you have a decent auto attack party
>>521175425But it drops the equip extremely rarely>>521175434I need anti-water resists for easy mode Abyss 2>>521175443Yeah I have Berka + Bow MC + Benjamin + Iarumas with autos that oneshot anything but the Mushroom and the Plant boss.
>have gotten 20 mariannes since launchyep, i'm thinking i won.
earth elves
>>521175542>I need anti-water resists for easy mode Abyss 2just form Earth teamJean, Benjamin the fishmen slayer, Galina, Elise, Yeka, Boris
>>521175561Did they already give compensation for this? I got a decent amount of Mariannes, but I spread them out across Alice, Yeka and MC for lvl 3
>>521175691Built for breeding.
>>521175691Made for BGC.
>We realized that every character has 30 skills, and each skill requires 30 dupes to max, and that's not very niceINFINITEGRINDABLESKILL TOMESsoon(TM)
>>521175749Yes but I want even more resists.
Now if only they also listened to complaints about class change books being one use...
>>521175691>Earth elvesImagine the smell
>>521176702It would be okay for me if they were just class tokens that worked for any character. Its just too damn specific right now.
weird, i assumed skill maxing was intended to be whaleshit. not sure i like that they'll be balancing around maxed characters nowhappy that poison attack will have a reason to exist though
>>521174602Yeah, I just got another one.
>>521176993The problem is that a large subset of skills are entirely inaccessible.I don't think they will make skills easier to get, just a means to open up more skills for inheritance.
Not being able to clear the B4 mission if you've done it previously is an acknowledged bug in announcements btw.
any notable general adventurers to build?
>>521174608Positioning Drowga near Neutral Man is fun>you n'wah!>chidori!>you n'wah!>chidori!
>>521175542>I need anti-water resists for easy mode Abyss 2#the drop rate for earth gear is so pathetic that I really wouldn't bother with den of earth.if you really wanted to waste your time then I suggest stopping once you got enough earth weapons.
all that whale bait and you can't pay to upgrade your stash size
>instant death resist helmets in the event shopi've been getting my ass kicked on fortress f3 so suddenly that's going to become a lot easiershame it'll take the pixie event a while to become permanent, i only got one anti-confuse shield before it ended
>>521177703Well I have 2 leveled Earth Priests and one of them shares the resists with humans in same row. I wonder if having him and 4 Earth chars is enough.
>>521177252Yeah the notice says that each adventurer will get more options for skill inheritance. Im assuming that means that, for example, an Elda will be able to give one of either follow-up, wild strike, or counterattack.Kind of a bad change tbqh. If anything it will just make the gacha even more important, the ability to brick yourself even easier, and the consequences for bricking yourself even harsher.The better part of the announcement is that they're adding more skill level-up items. Hopefully they can be obtained for free in reasonable and impactful quantities, because if not, this game is gonna stay a hellscape where only whales have human rights, especially when you consider the long term implications of soft caps.
>>521177962i ran berk despite her being weak to water, you'll be fine
>>521177452Off the top of my head, Marianne, Elise, and Kiriha.Marianne reduces priest spell that cost less than 6 mp which stacks with way of the priest. This makes basic heals and cures really cheap for her, stretching out how long you can remain in the field.Elise unique skill boosts a neutral ally's damage if they are in front or behind her. Stacks with Alice's neutral/evil row buff to boost Yeka.Kiriha is the only ninja other than the limited Rinne, so if you want to mess around with a ninja now, he's your only option.
>>521178042>for example, an Elda will be able to give one of either follow-up, wild strike, or counterattack.They should unironically add ways to undiscipline characters and refund all inherits on retiring thenWould be day of the brick once that happens
What's the minimum corrosion level for the true ending of Guarda? I don't want the GWO to be that hard
>>521177452benjamin the fishmen slayer
>>521178352D
>>521178105Both times? Which level?
Cave of malic crystal drop rate is just as shitty as I remember.
I'm glad that they shelf into permanent. Oldfags will never have to see it rerun while newfags can farm stuffs.
>>521175691
>Special Exquisite Offerings
wait, how does this work? if you got 10 mariannes you get 10 adventurer bones and if you got none you get nothing?
any tips on fighting that fucking dwarf in proving grounds?
>>521180620Stun bash apparently is effective
>>521180724thanks
>want to give skill to Kiriha>power goes downThis is just a visual bug right? its not actually going to make him weaker?
>>521181925Bricked
>>521180620My advice is just don't. You can run from pretty much every fight and if you do it enough you can phase through mobs sometimes. Don't fight anything and just beeline it to the boss.
>>521182000
>>521182004they guard chest tho
>>521181925>Ninja with lvl 6 counter and follow up s o o n
should i get this on steam, i heard it has karnel level shit like genshit, is it just nothing burger?
>>521182627>not inheritmaxxing yourself instead
wtfhow I even scratch these guys
>>521182990Bring ninjas
>>521182928Masketto man can't into naruto, and that's cringe
>>521182990>The living enemyJust sleep them
>>521182858It's always a nothing burger (until it isn't)
>>52118307820lv>>521183084they resist
>>521183081>he doesn't knowNext weekAlready datamined
>>521166707So I am getting my total Mariannes doubled? Even if I only have Latumofis lvl 3?
>>521183181(2) more weeks
>>521183181>Already datamineddoubt
>>521183181Okay, but samurai when?I want to iaijutsu.
>>521183273>want to iaijutsuIarumas can do that.
>>521183386He's a fraud.
Question to people who already played this new permanent event before:Is your shop refreshed? Basically do you get all the rewards again?
>>521183629yes its refresh every day
>>521183115Get lucky and nuke them with fast mages or get lucky and have a ninja land a crit, that's how I beat that fight.
>>521183386Is fisting iaijutsu?
>>521183934this fight is fucking BS compared to princess route
>>521183934>adamis this the d3 adamCHAD...?
>>521170070>Let players have unlimited class change on their adventurers to gish the fuck out of them>To compensate, devs make the game's events hard enough that the dragon looks like a pussy faggot in retrospect
>>521184669Good enough for me, make all the content harder, but let me farm class changes and skill exp freely.
is there anything good in the permanent old event except for xp scrolls?
>>521182990 if you have a couple mages and you're completely without usable ninjas, you can burn through most of the party with several la-spells while you pray your frontline can hold the line for 10+ turns. the la-spells might not take out the benjamin clone and the bossman, so either blood edge them with your thief or just wait until the 10+ turn buffs are down. you'll want to bring spell-seal removal items too since once you take out a few of the enemies, the bossman will instantly and randomly seal half your party which is doubly painful if it gets your healer.it really is a bizarrely hard fight at that point and definitely meant to sell rinne at the time
>>521185287that is fucking ridiculous
How are these helmets?
>>521185140125 ores
>>521186486bad
>>521186486White 1 starAdd some instedeath resistance, which usually is not enough anyway
>>5211864861 star white helmets
>>521186554>>521186717>>521186732Thanks anons
Does anyone know how far you have to clear Guarda Fortress to unlock the "Martial Training" exp dispatch?
This game makes me miss Persona Q on 3ds
>>521175749>you have to actually make 6 element teamsNoooooo I've already fed them to the mc.
>>521186486It helped me for one boss, that's it. Maybe worth to keep one
>>521186992The more I look at Alice, the more I think she's a goblin.
>>521187043Kill necrocore
>>521167604>its 100 crystal to 100 goldseriously>>521186992only bones and codex is worth, plus cash and ore gems, i guess exp books as they are cheap >>521187043beat necrocore? or 4th floor?>>521187143you don't but guy asked for advice for anti water resist team first time when I beat it with my main account I didn't even look at elements and it was quite difficult sometimes on my second account that I made when I was bricked I run earth team with some earth items and it was breeze, literary beat everything on first try with no grindalso >feeding chars before you reach guarda and know your shitngmi
>exp dailies are goneNYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>521187538We got too greedy, grindbros
>another 2k jimswow
>>521188735there will also be compensation depending on how many marianne's you've gotten
Marianne is the new Fiat currency of wizg. Lana is at least 10 Marianne.
>>521189801>Marianne wants money>She becomes moneyDeepest lore
>accept the 8f lingering gwo quest>first wave is a bit ass and second wave are what you expect>third wave starts>hear boss fight music
What are Astral break numbers inherited? 75% effective?
>>521189801What does my Alice with lvl4 LATUMOFIS get me?
Adventurer who uses a fucking stick as his weapon when?
Wait. So some events are going to be permanent now?
>>52119150960% of OG, a bit more than heavy attack 3
>>521191971You did not fully savor the risk so... nothing.With generic skill level up mats "soon" is discipline the best bet for dupes?
>ate my mariannes for lv 3 latfumions>didn't get anythinghuh?
They added a dispatch for after you clear the cave of malice.>20 hours>85 crystalsel oh elThey also raised the gold from 10 crystals to 100 and didn't add max/min buttons to it either.
>>521193159It's coming next week
>>521193181crystal drop was really low in OG so i doubt it is worth farming
>need to kill vampire 2 times more>need to kill bunch of OP fags in slum quest>need to kill dollsigh
>>521193387time to binge
If they do the following they will have a genuinely good game:>make the daily tag quest permanent >make class changes permanent after one scroll use, default class already unlocked>make Cover skills and other knight skills also have the user enter Defend mode>let us sell items from the screen where they are converted from junk directly
>>521193516>try to beat the dwarf to get to the well in training ground before trying the vampire>double accuracy down on him, dodge rate up on my row>he just whacks MC for 7K and instakills meSo should I just ignore him and go directly to the vamp or what? Will I even have SP left by the time I get there? I am not savoring right now...
>>521193842stun him, dodge do not work in proving grounds
Also, don't bother buying the helms of malice because they're in the junk this time, I just got like 14 of them.
>>521193747>>let us sell items from the screen where they are converted from junk directlythat may be done(maybe) but the rest?doubt it
>>521193989Do they ever come with more than one fucking star? I've rolled through the impossible difficulty and still only get one star shitter helms.
>>521194458I got two that were 2 star greens, I didn't look at the junk itself though, so not sure how high it can go.
>can't reset malice chests by wheeling back to the capitallmao these devs deserves to burn in hell.
I think he got the wrong idea...
Did the latest update super fuck the game for anyone else? I get black screens at the beginning of fights now. I've already clared the cashe and reinstalled the game twice. And I've used the forced recovery feature to free myself from the black void but it keeps happening. What the fuck?
>playing since launch>sparked twice>rolled a total of 2 (two) Mariannes besides the ones from the crucible
>>521195005now that I think about it, isn't it a tad strange that we as a ghoul can consume food and such? Our face must look like hell, we need to wear a mask, yet we literally got the stomach for drink and food?
>>521196385we dont actually ingest it, it just passes right through into the pissbottle hidden in our hollow crotch
Now that the dust has settled, thoughts on our dark elf bro Boris?
>>521196569I still haven't pulled him, so 0/10
>>521196569Had to go to pity for him. Drigger stole my gems/10
>>521196913That's our word drigga.
>>521195375steam phone emu?
*inhales* DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER DRIGGER *exhales*
>>521193747>make Cover skills and other knight skills also have the user enter Defend modeWhoa hey, we don't want to make knight actually a good class.
>>521197257Phone. Been playing since launch too.
>>521197610eh, can't help you thengood luck anyway
>>521195005damn he said you look zesty as fuck
Oh, they didn't level scale the Cave of Malice?
>>521198897nthey did not, Impassible is a push over
>>521183679Are you saying I can get 5 universal skill exp daily?
>>521196470>where are my testicles Lulu? Where are they?!>wanderer feels something dropping on the floor, looks down: Sh- no- oh god no! NO!
>>521199570no i am making shit up
Ok, I got the helm of malice junk again, it's 50/50 1 or two star and white or green lol.Don't know if there's a fey one.
>>521200847update: that was the commonplace one, I just got a normal one that is 100% 1 star/grade 1.
>>521175443Not true. It also drops crucible junk, which is just bronze shit.
What does this even do? Regardless of what I click it fades to black, kicks me out, and when I re-enter, nothing seems to be different.
>>521202671increases difficulty and drops, but since the hardest difficulty is like lvl 30 it's not noticeable.
>>521192000Iarumas
Is Discipline bad now?
>>521202860>hardest difficulty is like lvl 30Daphne gone soft.If seriously: I'd prefer perma-content to be ass-rape rather than event ones.
>>521203938It's because it's a 4 month old event
>>521203938ass rape + timed events = fomo = GIMMIE GIMMIE MONEY
>Lana starts talking about her homeland, I had NEVER heard this line before in 200 hours>Eulalia shouts "WHAT COULD IT BE" next to a fucking Harken and interrupts herFucking elves I hate you hate you hate you hate you
>>521204057the powercreep is crazy...
>>521203793Discipline is good now
>>521175691what'd they feed Elise to make her so damn tall? She a milk drinker?
>>521160673>>521159901Yeah this is just for nuking event enemies. We've already established events are going to be korean MMO levels of grind, so we need to plan around that.
All this news was nice, but I want to rooooooooooollllll for a big titty mommy gf character Mr. Drecom.
Milk? I like milk too.
>>521175691Galina looks like the kind of elf who would call you slurs straight at your face at all times.
>>521204771You forgot to mention - she must be a drow
>>521203223>hides a real sword in his stickDoesn't count.
dwarfs are huge
>just casually doubled the price of the lamp of malice passMy memory isn't that bad, drecom.
>>521205898A magic staff is just a fancy stick
Found a fey helm of malice junk, 3 star/grade 3 is the best you can get.
They added a new dispatch for the Den of Malice too.It seems kind of mediocre but it will let you passively farm the tokens.
>>521206021Why are they charging more for something that's kind of irrelevant now? Did they even change the rewards? Is it going to start resetting monthly?
>>521206570Lmao at those suckers that actually farmed enough to buy 9 useless 1 star white helms during the initial run.
>>521206895I guess they decided that's how much they want to charge for MA-spell skill books. That's too bad, I'd buy it for $5, but not $10.
>>521204046>chin fat
>I'm fine... I'm not afraid>gets hit once>AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIEEEE I DON'T WANNA DIIIIEEEE
>>521207648Well she died once already so she probably has some deep seated trauma now, very lore accurate
>>521206570Holy shit, it's new junk
Reminder not to spend your resources until the game comes out of early access in 2026 or you could be bricked.
....
>>521208678Anyone spending more than a pittance after the initial release bugfest deserves to savor the risk.
>>521209108Enjoy your new hammer
>Mariannecoin DOUBLED>the guild point Priest Bone buyers were right all along>mfw I'm holding a stash of 50 bones that could have had multiple Mariannes
>>521209108Hey that thing was sick before abyss 3 came out.
This is such a great gameshame about the everything else about it though
>>521209317>i smell like goblins, i have to take a bath fast...>this smell...>is ophelia's smell!
>>521209317>MariannecoinBro its going to dump with the nerf to the level 5 skill. Get out and load up on XRP.
its weird to see purple copper weapons
>>521209913The level 7 skill is still the only inheritable full party heal.
>>521209804Ophelia smells of fresh home cooking.
So does white equipment have any use at all? I got some white steel light gauntlets but I dont see the point of replacing my blue iron ones
>>521210082>lvl7wew
>>521209317Evil ghul be like
>>521210156Not really 3* Blue and Purple will always be better
>having marianne was actually a sign of good fortune after allFuck the harken, Marianne is my goddess now
>>521210156unify material or vendor trash.
>>521210156not reallyit have higher base stats and so higher bonus when upgraded but it can't really beat good blessings(with stars) just with thatI still use +20 iron sword 4stars
>>521210156Unify fodder, and a source of money
>>521210082>The level 7 skill is still the only inheritable full party heal.>level 7wowee how useful, a full party heal you can use once before you're out of MP
>>521210082Madoos buffs to heal all at lvl 3.Trust the plan
>>521210156Unify fodder. You need 26 other pieces to unlock +20 or a more reasonable 8 pieces for +15.
>>521210483Don't forget to tithe.
>support marianne>love marianne>she give me moneybased!
>Madios no longer cucked by LatumofisFriendship with Marianne ended.Emil is my best friend now.
>>521209317
>>521209317>got baited into investing in fighter coin for my monthly bonesAAAAAAAIIIIEEEEEE
Soon there will be a lot of people running the bulkiest mariannes known to maskkind
Why would anyone pay 10 bucks for a single mahalito book?
Summer Marianne confirmed???
>>521204379elves generally are tallElise is also an elven amazonian
So what are dens? I dunno if I missed an explanation somewhere, do I just wanna try and find the end or farm as many mobs as possible?
>>521212010Rush towards the exit to get the guaranteed chest and bail out
when is the next banner. I want to roll for some women
>>521212010Dens drop different types of ore and elemental weapons/armor, they're all different, in some of them it's easier to spawn in, grab a nearby chest, and leave, and in some it's better to go to the end for the guaranteed chest from the boss
I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET 3 BONES FROM THE EVENTWHERE ARE MY BONES
>>521212627Replaced with azure ores. Also the gold is 100 crystals each now. Please enjoy.
I upgraded my gear finally now that im in abyss 2 and it instantly made me broke. Best gold farm?
>>521212785I seeThen I will take these 3 bones from YOU!
>>521212895wait for gold event or hold currency items until x2 sell event
Marianne OP bread
>>521212895steel equipment sells for a lot where you are at.lock up whatever you are using or plan to use and sell the rest.
>>521217998>>521217998>>521217998>>521217998
