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Buff Hoodwink
After long day of fighting Lina's sweaty feet deserver a thorough tongue bath
currently there is much misinformation spreading around in the threads about how 7.40 would bring templar assassin bondage event. it would not. the patch itself won't arrive. never. the templar assassin bondage event is a myth. the 7.40 patch is a false hope. they will not arrive. never.
>>521066137>Words words wordsI'd never want to tie up TA, I WANT HER TO TIE ME UP
>>521066338she is fictional character in a computer game. your best hope is asking your loved one to participate in an intimate act of your preference with a costume applied.
>>521065991I'd rather swallow her cock down to the base, all 10 thick inches
Fox Lina persona coming in the next event
>>521066618>Asking loved oneAre you poor anon?
>>521066775where she is executed
>>521066710You only get that after you're done cleaning her feet, creamy desert comes after you finish your meal
>>521067014but her cum IS the meal
>>521067318No, you dont just eat it, thats disrespectful. You savour your creamy delight
deer thread!
>>521066810how is having a significant one in your life would be indicative of poverty.
>>521065289I never noticed but she's missing her spots
>>521069819A proper harem requires a proper bank account
can't you turn off whispers in POE2
>>521070469Wrong game, idiot
>>521070629?I don't play poe2, I also don't play dota, why can't i ask here
Fissure is actually doing fearless draft
>>521071658Yeah but the teams suck so who cares
What do you do in this situation? I didn't buy radiance and of course just turned into a worthless melee creep the whole game and we lost.
>>521072008>offlane wkYou should be skinned alive.
>>521072008give the radiant line up you arent right clicking without helparmlet>echo sabre>aghs>harpoon>nullifer
>>521065516More like Hoodrat lmao!
>>52107210654% winrate on protracker and I have a 70% winrate with it in Divine.
>>521072008armletblinkblademailmaybe stop greaving
>>521072263MORE LIKE POOPWINK
>>521072008Buy blink > aghs
>>521072240>>521072409I'll try the armlet build next time. I usually go blademail first then radiance anyways just because the team starts crying otherwise but the blademail was pretty shit this game in retrospect.
I have become convinced Mars is ridiculously opAccording to liquidpedia bulwark is additive with all damage reductionSo 70% bulwark reduction + 60% armor reduction + crimson guard 60% chance for 70 dam reduction + radianceThen eternal shroud to buff up magic resist
>>521072843faces the same challenges being bristlefront>become tank god>enemy buys silver edge+sheep>bristlefront instamelts upon show
Bets?
>>521072008Lifestealer will deliver sustained damage. Assuming SF is mid here, you could buy armlet + deso to burst SF with crits.
>>521073045im taking radiant on this one if they can press buttons they should be able to win
>>521072407Divineggers should placed into a cage and dipped in boiling hot oil.
>>521073152deso is such a bad itemanytime you think deso is good, buy orchid insteadnow that is a top tier item with best in slot upgrade
>>521073012I don't know what shep is but it seems to require a monumental effort to gank this because when I start facing I just tank it allYou mean like hexingYou also get 50% regen per hero you're outnumbered by
>>521073518break+hex removes your ability to tankregen doesnt matter when you die in 4 secondsyou would need like 1000hp/s to survive
>>521073335And what if he dispels the soul burn with BKB? The method I suggested would allow anon to take out or cripple a very high value target with blink + armlet + deso.
>>521073662orchid is still a damage item if you misuse the activei would suggest not fucking up your blink>stun>orchid(bloodthorn) combo
>>521072843Yeah I've seen players go full hypertank before and the play is to just ignore them because they invested so much in tanking and not enough in disabling or damage.
>>521073630Vs what thoughIs there literally a better tank assuming we aren't just perfectly ganking every time2vs1 they're both attacking from front or side, you have vampiric and 250 regenMars is pretty good at getting people off you as well
>>521073971my point is there is no ultimate tank in dotadps is ALWAYS king
>>521073850They can just walk down your towers though Forgive me I'm 60 hours in unranked
>>521074004I feel like people aren't even trying to take with him though based on dotabuff stats, like no one using crimson guardAttacks even late game can do literally 0 damage to you
>>521065991but lina can't sweat, that's like if crystal maiden got shivers
Poor Sheever
>>521074452Taking 0 damage doesn't matter when the rest of your team still gets killed, you need to actually be threatening in some way so that people are forced to try and kill you anyways.
>>521073045Radiant wins 90%, but they throw an important fight and lose to a single push.
>>521074130You're still at a point where doing shit like full tank Mars can work but once you play anyone with braincells you're either getting Broken and Hexed to death or you're getting ignored while your team dies and then their 5 man push is going to outpace your solo push, because YOU are tanky but that doesn't mean your team is and once the enemy figures that out, the game is over.There have been patches where even someone with high damage and tank like Timbersaw still got ignored because that didn't translate well for the rest of the Timbersaw's team.
>>521074741yes, mars offers no sustained lockdown or slow either so he really ez to kite after arena
>>521074741It seems to require a gank to kill, just march down a lane and you win all the 1v1s
>>521073045Easily Radiant unless someone feeds Riki.
which is the choice match for group a today?feels like nigma v para most even (lul)
what's a good matches:commends ratio
>>521074941And do what? Mars can clear a wave but he isn't any good at killing towers. Even if you really were totally completely unkillable the enemy team can just fight the rest of your team 4v5 while you fuck around on the other side of the map and then kill your base about a hundred times faster than you can kill theirs. The best you can do is force a rotation and there are so many other heroes that can do that and don't need to spend 30k gold on tank items to do it. Hell even Mars himself can do it with a normal build, you don't need to build ultra tanky.But also you aren't actually unkillable anyways because break exists so they point is moot.
>>521075297None of them are likely to matter though maybe we can get tiebreakers, I doubt Spirit will lose to Talon so the bracket is basically decided
>>521075297Today's matches look less evenly matched than the previous ones. I'll have a look at Nigma vs Pari and Tide vs Falcons and scan the other ones for unorthodox picks just in case.
>>5210756491:3
Stop talking about the game you thirdies, this patch is the most anti-white shit ever. We need more horny posts
>>521076381
>>521076381'me want fug girl' posting is the most brownskinned NPC thing you can do on this websitenow, drawing coomer art or writing coomer fanfics, that is white, that is faustian, that is the sign of a higher IQ
>>521075803>I doubt Spirit will lose to Talon so the bracket is basically decided If Pari loses 2-0 and Liquid wins 2-0 they'll both have equal scores and have a tiebreaker for the upper bracket.
valve insider infact has confirmed last thread that the templar assassin in bondage event is happening in 7.40>>521066137are you a valve insider? then why are your christmas socks full of coal?
>>521076801>now, drawing coomer art or writing coomer fanfics, that is white, that is faustian, that is the sign of a higher IQThat is exactly what I'm asking for
>>521077209>then why are your christmas socks full of coal?My ass is full TA's girthy futacock
>>521075724You can stand and tank the towers with terasque indefinitely taking 0 damage at like level 20, I've only played him a few times lol but not many chars can do that
>>521073180>>521074797>>521074964Yep, we won. Turns out you can get a lot out of a 800 gold gem.
>>521077596
>>521077596I keep playing Riki and forgetting that exists
>>521077971>>521077596gj on the win brother
Sumail once again picking Dark Seer 2.
>>521077429That's not even close to true. Basically any strength hero with decent armour or some damage mitigation skill (i.e. tide, bristle, timber) can do this with a normal build, you don't even need heart which is a pretty bad item these days.
>>521077209not a valve insider yet this knowledge is irrefutable. the event will not come. the 7.40 patch will not come. this is not a secret. there is no coal. patience will not be rewarded.
>>521078734its legitds is so good in this meta
>1st game starts well, ends as absolute stomp>2nd game even but lose to a stupid mistake after bb>3rd game absolute clusterfuck with picks, ultimate stompFourth game and I'm just picking PB. Won't win, will suck but at least I can get my "I can make him work" of the week out of my system.
someone go into singsing's chat and tell him he can dispel healing wards
>>521080062Can you not do this anymore in the recent patch? Or was it not dropped yet?
>>521080180oh yeah nevermind he can't come the 15th
They're called "carries" because the rest of the team has to carry them to victory, useless fucking subhumans that don't deserve to win
It's insane how broken TA is, kinda like Phantom Assassin on a permanent bkb, you just can't die
>>521081858also she is range so she doesn't have to put herself in danger every time she oneshoot someone like PA has to
>>521081858>1 extra barrier instance was the difference between useless and brokeni refuse to believe it
>>521081858Yeah, and then when you want to kill the TA, you can just kill her, unlike PA who can just live if the RNG wills it. Wait a minute...
>>521082206They also reduced the cooldown by 2 seconds and buffed the level 25 talent which gives 4 extra instances.
>>521082674it already had 100% uptime and the 25 talent buff was 1 more instance
>>521082674she needed it tbqhwyf
tinker support
>>521083102Great to see people get salty over kino tinker
>>521082206The real buff is that Desolator does 10% more damage and the real REAL buff is that she has a neutral enchantment that is good for her now with +110 attack range.
>>521082942>it already had 100% uptimeYes, but now if your shield gets completely broken you can get it back 2 seconds faster.
>>521083102tinker should only be a midhe should never be a viable support
>>521083102just nullify him bro
sumail's itemization was garbage toowhere was the gliepner to combo with mk ult
>>521079884Yep, absolute fucking misery. 5/5 stunners+high health opponents vs. no damage or sustain allies. At least I got to use plenty of uninterrupted ults and had best stats.
Still can't find an explanation, but after 7.0 was released I just turned to shit at the game. That patch changed so much.
>>521084852that was nearly 10 years agohow are you still shit
>>521084852It was the patch that removed the Real Techies, the heart and soul of Dota
>>521084961Old now
>>521084996huh? it was a meme hero nobody playedthe heart and soul of dota is pudge and it's basically the same for the last 15 years
>>521085156aye brother, im guilty of that too
Finally reached 9k feels good bros
>Meepo in a tourney>In 2025
larl is getting ghost scepter every game on every hero?
>>521087149He was already picked earlier
>>521087301Got a link and timestamp when it happened?
>>521087452https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8247253783It was yesterday
>>521087301ta has no efl ears
>>521087795What
>>521087452he's picked now too. paravision vs nigma.
>>521074551lina sweats heavily during the futa sex she has with futa templar assassin
yataro cant style on a hero like meepo cause he needs heroes from his puddle to carry
>>521088360why am i wrongagain
>>521089067Maybe thinking of Drow
i wish my main wasnt ugly..
>>521089479is your main ET?
>>521077229>asking for the White man to deliver gibs>not doing it yourselfBrown.
>>521089859no... timbersaw..
>>521089947Better?
>>521074567based sheevs committing to the bit all day
>Nigma is so terrified of TA they first ban it literally every single game>They don't ban it one game so they can first pick it>Get stomped and lose in 25 minuteskek what a fucking dogshit team
>pick silencer pos 5 first>they pick puck, dark seer, zeusLegendbros....
>>521091278meepwn'd
>>521086987congrats what type of cake do you want
>>521090974yeah now i love my main.. bless..
LMAO you know what hero people forget is in the game omni valve is doing that nigga dirty
Does butterfly stack with radiance for evasion? Thinking of doing that for every Viper game so far it's going well
>>521091295some guy picked primal beast mid into huskar for some reason a few games agodidnt work outthey just dont care about counterpicks
>>521093958Yes im pretty sure evasion stack not sure why you would build radiance and butterfly but hey if you are winning games with it that all that matters
>>521093958Evasion stacks multiplicatively (not additively), yes.
>>521093958Evasion stacks inversely multiplicatively, miss chance from the aura is a separate roll
>baseball stays the same>basketball stays the same>football/soccer stay the same>rugby stays the same>hockey stays the samemeanwhile...Dota need 10000000 new things added every year or else people get bored of it. sad.
>>521095802>shit>nigger shit>spic shit>cranial trauma shit>based
>>521095802Retard, those sports get rule changes all the time.
>>521095802Basketball has rule changes from time to timeBut dota is the most unique sport in the world atm
>>521094309My meta sense is that trading aggressively causes a breakdown of strategy because they're constantly going uphill and losses have to be cut, the idea is Viper is an AGI core that has poison and slow and magic resist built in plus attack speed slow, you can farm your butterfly with radiance and with the evasion the attack speed boost the damage the radiance magic damage you can out juke out trade out damage anyoneThat's my guardian take, at least
pros are getting the higher auto attack dmg facet on jakiro now?
>>521095802a better comparison is cs. that game gets a minor balance changes every 2 years. pretty sure some weapons haven't been changed in 10+ years (including bad unused weapons lol):
zapped your ass
>>521099025Only weapon change I remember hearing about was when the revolver was able to basically one shot anyone.
Oh man China looking good this year
>>521099645they change costs and slightly change accuracy/dmg of some weapons every couple of years
I see the pros are still trying to make Slardar 2 work (the Betboom vs Avulus game).
Theres no difference in any of these regionsNA is the same as EU, both of these regions are terrible at high divine/low immortal MMRAlmost into Immortal like twice now and every time its 3 or 4 forced losses in a row because of 1-2 stragglers just running it down
>>521100418>Let's pick Slardar with only one other -armor hero, in a team with basically zero other disablesWhat was the strategy before hitting lv6, losing lanes?
>batriderlol
>>521101226They still haven't deleted batrider from the game? And chen, even
>>521095802Thats because valve keeps adding stupid shit that the game doesnt need instead of actually trying to improve on whats there already. You know why?because they dont actually give a shit about dota, they just test stuff to add in other projects. or to test monetization.
>china already lost game 1Chinks
Bb comeback
>>521101950They'll be out if BetBoom wins
that rapier didnt do much
Bristles right click is insane with no damage items
>>521102315He shouldn't be hitting you more than once until 25.
>Kill a warlock with your 700 damage right clicks>Ignore the FREE golem he drops on deathWhat the fuck is this game
>>521103164they wanted to do real objectives instead of 150g or whatever
>>521100946I think some of them simply got an idea that he's a viable mid after the last big patch. Maybe it's as simple as: "We need - armor" "Let's pick Slardar 2 then".Or perhaps they really got impressed by all of the new water on the map and it influences their decisions.
Should be tiebreakers I think, unless Tundra somehow lose to Heroic
>>521103828Wasn't there a pro spamming mid Slardar in pubs and winning most of the time? Might've impressed the mid players who noticed that.
>>521104561Haven't heard about that.
damn
How do we save china?
If you break Medusa's shield she shouldn't be able to regen mana for a few seconds
>>521104762I saw the mention when there was some video posted of a pro winning a 1v3 against a QoP and others and juking the shit out of them. Can't find it because I can't remember the player's name but I'm seeing this clickbait shit on Google so I don't think the mid Slardar fad is new.
>mid tells me to tp when he gets ganked by 3 enemiesit doesnt tell me to in the tortelloni guidewhy are so many noob mids out there threse days guys
>>521105349she doesn't survive from mana regen, she survives from instant mana restore and if you kill that you kill the heroalso sex with medusa's snussy
Why do they keep picking razor
sex with hoodwink
There was a core jakiro?
>>521109018Yes, very based
is anyone else noticing a significant increase in chinese players on EUW blatantly cheating and wintrading in ranked games
>>521109546Please tell me you're joking. I don't need more Shadow Blade Maelstrom Jakiros in my pubs...
>>521110331it lost
looks like tundra and betboom will have a bo3 tidebreaker for upper/lower bracket start
>>521110331Don't worry man I've been doing it for years now
>>521110481No it didn't
>>521110286how do you win trade without parties
anyone else too depressed to play
>>521112058by queueing with chinese language preferance on non chinese servers
>>521110881it did when avolus played it
>>521112129yeah i just watch now
>>521113385they won once with it and lost once
>>521113385https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8247476361Unless they played it twice I don't think so
>>521113206anyone can do that
>>521113607
>>521113812Oh I heard them mention it yesterday and I didn't think they'd do it again
Ench is so irrelevant in this meta, hopefully she ends up buffed before TI, and I guess Dazzle is just dead again after all the complaining
>>521112129I stopped taking my meds and now I can't even play dota 2 I just don't care
>>521115821she was just meta for like a year bro you're fine
>>521116169She should always be in meta
>>521116727that's reserved for Tiny
People get so pissed at core abaddon etc
>>521112129I only have the emotional/cognitive energy to play on the weekends. I work 50 hours a week and by the time I get home all I want to do is decompress
Tundra are the quintessence of fucking trash
Alright noob here, I get if you destroy the all the barracks you get supers but does destroying both/one of the rax do anything besides gold?
>>521118439Destroying the melee or ranged rax in a lane makes that lane spawn "super" creeps, which are stronger than normal creeps. Destroying all rax makes all lanes spawn "mega" creeps, which are stronger than super creeps.
>>521118439You get super creeps when you destroy a barrack in that laneYou get mega creeps when you destroy all barrackhttps://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Ranged_Creep
>>521115821>invoker
>>521118702>>521118756Ah neat thanks. I hate beeg treants even more now.
SAW A HUSKAR BE 11 WHILE EVERYONE ON ELSE ON HIS TEAM WAS 5. WE WERE 5-6. HE GOT A RAMP\AGE LIKE MIN 10 HE LOST
>>521119626Absolutely classic Huskar
Why did they re-add Essence Ring, retarded item
>>521120182where's the quintessence ring?
TA too big
>>521121102Tell me about Lanaya, why does she wear the mask
>>521121284She heckin loves science and trusts the experts
>>521121284very common on femboys and trannies who are about to hit the wall hard
>>521121284She's a very shy girl, can't how off too much skin after all
>>521121493what
Dota 2 only gives you sweat and rage. Do somehting better with your life.
>>521121751futa elf sex
>betboom losing another game because pure doesnt have bb (400g off)
lmao losing after that Black Hole
>>521123390pure does this a lot
>shitquid lost a game to shopifylollmao
>>521125176They just felt bad for them, the series didn't matter
>>521125357where they memepicking?
>>521125486No I was just making excuses
>drafter picks 4 support players>instapicks pos 5I love losing in draft
Reminder that carry position is forced to play the game with 5 item slots. Nullifier is not an item. Needs rework asap.
what if orb of corrosion on tide
>>521126114>the best item in the game isn't an itemThey are actually forced to play with 4 slots, bkb isn't an item either
>>521126406>retardifier>best itemBkb is an item. You're wrong.
>>521121284Masks are hot
>>521126114Nullifier has great stats for its price and buildup considering it has no recipe, and it counters almost any support item and ability, what is this bit about it being bad, besides offlane can get it if needed, it's got a good cast range
what if nullify placed a 10% slow on the target
>mid bristle
sex with futa lina
>>521126961>nullifier>great stats>its pricexDD. You just listed everything that is wrong with this trash item. It has no stats. It has no utility. Its price is waay too expensive to counter a 1.5k item and glimmer. So for that price this item has to replace boots so it needs +50 movement speed. That's the only way this piece of shit is worth buying.
Mirana sexo
>>521127230it's not absolutely horrible for just camping mid and farming if your opponent cant harass you out of lane
>>521127548>damage and armour on a carry is badAlright don't buy it, just keep complaining about every save item in the game
this wk offlane looks about as shit as it is in my games
33 has died 4 times in 6 times
>>521127773>counters supports>gives armourSo which one is it? Which hard carry is going armour nowadays or against supports for that matter? Oh wait, you're wrong and retarded.
>>521127548>It has no utility.HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>521127465Sex with futa linaThen fuTA Then futa lunaThen futa vengeThen futa QoP Then futa spectreThen futa marciThen futa drowIn a row
>>521127996>forced to ignore that nullifier gives 75 bonus damagekek
>>521127548You are legit south american shitter and should stop posting right the fuck now.You are probably that shitstain argentinian.
>>521128087based as fuck
>>521128053>nullifier>utilityGuess it's full blown retard hours eh?
Carrytrannies are literally given the best item in the game that counters every single save item yet they still complain, what is wrong with these "people"?
>>521128087why are men incapable of imagining sex without involving everything around penises?
>>521128225thanks for announcing your presence
Save is an animal
>>521128183You're wrong about everything and now the non sequitur starts. I don't know what braindead retard looks at nullifier and goes, hmm great stats. Idk maybe shut the fuck up and let me balance the game for you.
>>521128619>nooo you cant just be objective when you understand that only 2 items give more bonus damage
>>521128591How is he bottom nw on rm?
>>521128619The same kind of braindead retard that looks at bkb and goes, hmm great stats.
What the fuck is wrong with bb
>damage and hp are bad
>shitboom
>>521129176>even more damage and EHP and hp regen are bad
>>521128332because my pulsating cock blasting sperm every feels awesome
>>521128992BKB purposely has bad stats though, you gain nothing over what its components give AND it has a recipe, Nullifier gives you 20 extra damage and 6 armour
>unluckThis is not a word.Russian niggers deserve to die.
>>521129312what good is damage if you cant apply it
>>521128992>>521129176>>521129312Damage and armour on nullifier are the least important things about the item. Nobody buys this dogshit cause it gives 75 damage. Everyone buys it to counter ghost scepters and removing buffs. The item doesn't need damage or armour, it needs utility like move speed + 1 extra mod for that fucking exuberant price so people can replace their boots if they have to carry this item. Bkb is fine, it does things.
>>521129430>pay premium for a good effect>don't pay premium for a good effect also free statsNullifier is objectively better than BKB and should be nerfed.
nullifier should be a support item that gives NOTHING a carry wants
>>521129942that is dumb, being able to offensively dispel is something every carry wants
Hahahahaha holy fuck what are these slavs doing
>>521130036and its something no carry should have
>>521130041choking, unsurprisingly
>>521130129carries build glimmer cape it gives nothing stat wise a carry wantsthe active is enough
Take me back
>>521129712Are you implying people buy bkb for the stats?
>>521130314individual couriers kind of make it redundant, the side shop was sovl thoughbeit
>>521129942Nullifier is already a support item that gives nothing a carry wants. But it's priced as a carry item not a support item. No carry wants this item ever.
>>521130397>carries dont want 75 bonus damageretard
>>521129829I know, I'm jut saying it's not a good comparison because BKB is awful for its stats to price ratio
>omg i can heckin dispell problematic chud spells like uhh gods strength and uhhhhh but it had damage! And 9 armor, thats like, 40 axe damage diff idk did I mention the damage?Nullifiersissies in a nutshell
>>521130394If you're illiterate don't respond to my posts.>>521130493Yea it's every carry's dream to walk around with a relic. Retard.
>>521130602its better than a relic retard
Don't reply to him, its rubick troon.
>>521130663It's a relic with an active which makes it a shit item based on that.
>10 kills ahead >down 2k after being 6:0 in kills in 5 minutes>With DOOOM on your teamHow is this even possible?
>>521130814relic is 20 less damagepretending its the same is retarded
Whitemon is a fucking gamer
>>521130885Does a carry want a manta style or a fucking relic retard?
>NOOOOOO IT DOESNT GIVE ANY STATS IT ONLY COMPLETELY COUNTERS ANY AND ALL SUPPORT ITEMS PLUS ABILITIES, IT HAS NO UTILITY AT ALL ITS NOT GOOD NONONO STOP BUYING IT NOOOOOOOOOO
>>521130919nah bb playing badly
>>521130998they can buy both, you have more than one item slotyou fucking retard
>blink and tundra is diving t4BB tilted for the event, it's over
>>521131069You're fucking retarded, with this post its set in stone.
This is all a red herring and distracting from the fact they took mute from nullifier and I'm stil not okay with it
>>521131173you think 55 = 75who are you calling a retardstfu and sit down kid
>>521131173>its
>>521131240I explained everything but you're retarded. With all the items carry needs to buy to make the game playable, there's no slot for a naked relic in his inventory. Do you understand retard? That shit has to replace an item or carry is playing with 5 slots. That's all there is to it.
>>521131543>doubles down on his autismcry harder baby
what a clown game
Does Nullifier count as a debuff towards Venomancer's Septic Shock? That's my first item in turbo games but I never checked to see if it contributes to the facet, I tend to go orchid first otherwise since that's a silence/debuff
Bristle was shitting out quills, more so than usual
remco is a fucking retard
>>521131740Yes, thats the trick of Veno's has answer to dispel niggers like slark and oracle.
>>521131740it's not even worth thinking about
Lmfao at you virgin nerd losers arguing about a video game. I just got done banging my extremely hot gf and came deep in her pussy! LOL, must be sad sitting in a dark room, hunched over like a nerd virgin typing away. Sad!
>>521132054Venomancer TI main 2025 screenshot THIS
>pick ursa>lose
2ez433
>bb is good
>>521132414*bristleback is overpowered
>>521132414He won didn't he
This is why we need monkey king bar to have true strike every attack and to break
>>521132496Carlos I hope you get raped by PA in the jungle
>>521132820I think that might have happened already but my mind is a Blur
>>521132695We don't talk about buffing carry items here.
>>521132695bloodthornhe had no dispel
>>521132414hes broken
>>521133093giwtwm>>521132695Make a new item that lets you ignore enemy passives on your hero.
>>521133258True Strike goes away if you pop BKB or whatever. That's not a good replacement.
>>521133871dont let them bkb
When are they nerfing nullifier?
What about a shared inventory secret shop where the shop does not open until 10 minutes into the game, and items have to be restocked over time. I think it would be fun forcing players to buy items out of order to hit timings.
>>521134284When are they buffing *flips card* medallion of courage?
When are they buffing PA?
>>521134834when people realize she's not that and stop picking her
>>521134834She's being brought down by the shit teams or perhaps they're shit because they keep picking her
>>521135046It's not just that, they nerfed blink range way too much. Her crit as well.
>>521135172You still see her rape if she pops off though, see how she does in the playoffs
>>521135479where is her futa cock?
>>521135819in your ass
>>521135819Doesn't have one, in fact none of the Dota girls do, you'll have to take your worthless fetish elsewhere I'm afraid
>>521135819Seek mental help
>>521135046pa is just kinda bad
>>521136259Maybe but >5k is a rather large skill range, I also wonder what her pub winrate was when she was considered "broken" because she's a pretty popular hero and will probably always be brought down by retards. Besides do you really want her one-shotting everyone again
>>521136757her winrate goes down with mmr
i played a few matches today and it truly sank in today that the game has well and truly become a deranged ghost town that only the dregs of society play anymore
>>521136259i dont know how dota managed it, but if you pick a 42% winrate character in any other competitive team game you just get trolled, griefed and flamed out of existence, whereas in dota people just kinda tolerate it for the most part. and the people who pick this shit and lose every game do not seem to care either
>>521137424people dislike it in dota too. i think it's mostly that her winrate actually was around 50% recently so people haven't mentally put her into her into the shit hero pile yet.
>>521137424Carrytrannies are too retarded to look up win statistics so they keep picking her thinking she's good
>>521135819Blurred because she's about to teleport behind you and gut you like a fish
Female personas soon
what if there was a hero that just made a series of booms? like his main ability was a boom that made a really large boom sound in your ears and then you couldn't really hear for a while properly. his ult would be a boom too.
Wait so if I hex someone, they can't use bkb or anybitems during the hex?Damn if true, thats huge, god I hate buying Scythe but that's so OP and it isn't heckin fair lion and shadow shaman have it for free lv 1
>>521143005newfriend...
Dota futa chart where?
What if doom, but global, but doom also self dooms and if doom dies the dooms ends
>>521143289retarded, but also kinokinotarded, if you will
>>521143205>only females and futas>no trapsSHIT anime
>>521143289Fun modes not allowed.
fix them
>>521144656give each of them +75 attack range and +1 to armorboom
>>521144656db hasnt been touched at all for nerf in months and somehow made the shit list
>>521144656>jugg unpicked>am unpicked>drow unpicked >venge unpicked>axe unpickedOutdated trash heroes don't deserve to exist in our glorious modern dota where every support farms and every core flash farms and gets tanky mobile and brool with no cooldowns.
>>521144906how is axe not a tanky brooler with no cds
>>521144656veng is really good grim also same goes for treant like AA the pros dont really use the full roster of the game at all
Real men play 5 support and ride for they niggas
>>521145004He has one skill and one passive when every modern one has three buttons, 4 with shard, 5 with aghs, and they also serve dual purposes.
>>521145738his one skill is a black hole on short cd
What are some good low skill heroes for a boomer to play?
>>521144656>cherry picked chart from some small tournament with 10 games max>omg fixThe only thing that needs fixing is your face.
>>521147567idk none
Campo SantoPleaseI'm begging youStop the Omniknight core experimentMake him not a trash support anymore
>muh campo santo boogeyman
>>521148131how do we fix it
How many campo santos do you see in the room right now
>>521147567I tried to think of one and I really cant think of anyhoodwink has a bunch of skillshotswarlock you have to control golemsidkmaybe lich
>>521147567all carries
>>521147567silencer
>>521147567Zeus is the best noob hero. Really simple concept and has at least one escape button.
>>52114764762 games have been played retard
>>521151694the hero is super squish and relies heavily on positioning even with a free force staff
It is wholesome when you get heart of tarasque and the whole team just rallies around you and falls in behind your shield as a mars main, losing by over 10 kills but get the dub, also a 4v5 winAlso I'm new to the game but it seems most players are insanely spastic and just chase everything, when I try to help them I almost always die, retreating and defending the tower isn't a viable option in quickplay randoms brainMost of my games play like this and I'll win with like 2 or 3 kills because when I get tarasque and radiance we can finally make progressTook me a while to figure out how to build Mars but shield bash to max as fast as possible, mana regen ring, then save until tarasque, then mage slayer then radiance seems solid, why do you need boots, only late game when you're ready to push
>>521152932Based and cute newfriend
>>521082206She was good before.
>>521147567jakiro
>>521154237while i agree with this, her win rate before the buffs was terrible
How do you even defeat a good puck player?
>>521155958bkb piercing disables
>>521155958Multiple disables. More than Puck can dodge in a 12 second period so like...6+? Also need to bait out the blink so it's off cooldown too because Puck has a free 3 second dodge so nothing matters if Puck presses E and can blink away.
>support rushes scepter>is useless all game>blames me mid because im not stomping.>play again this time against him>stomp mid.>he actually builds support items now>my team absolutely fucking feeds hard, im the only one with positive KDA and stomped mid>lol gg bad mid againLove it when the game punishes me for actually playing the game.
>game cant find people to make me lose because normies are asleep.>queue goes on for like 15 mins:)
guys, I've been thinking and I'm gonna put a baby in Mirana's oven :)
Traxex, Lina, Rylai, Mortred, Marci, Luna, Mirana, Lyralei, Akasha, Lanaya, please stand in line. I will conduct a taste test, to figure out who's sweaty feet taste better and rank you all based on your succulent tootsies.
Is snap good and what do i build
>>521152224So is most heroes considered noob friendly, only 2 that I think are noob friendly and tanky off the top of my head is Undying and Centaur, but their laning phase can be a pain if you dont know how to lane.Zeus's plan at all stages of the game are pretty simple for a new person. He doesn't flood a beginners brain with infinite possibilities of what to do like some heroes, just press your buttons on who is closest to you and maybe press E if someone jumps on you.
>>521164808I... uhhh I don't remember making this post ealier? But I must have, because this is literally what I would say.
>>521164850Bad Zeuses are so bad and useless it's not even funny. And then when they drop off because they're behind in levels and farm, and the enemy team is fat and with BKBs, that's not a good time.I would qualify noob friendly heroes as heroes who don't require thinking for laning, and then can transition to roaming and right-clicking without thinking. So win-lane-lose-game heroes like Viper and Huskar. Huskar might require pressing too many buttons but Viper definitely. I would know. I played like 90 games of Viper in a row when I first started and thought I was so good at it.Then maybe other braindead heroes like Juggernaut, Lina, PA, Naix. I'm of the opinion that getting new players started on simple right-clickers is the best way to get them started. So an old fart who doesn't want to think would do well on them too.
>>521154237She was good when her flash farming, laning (esp mid) and damage was something special so she came out of lane strong (with a weakened enemy) then popped in the triangle and walked out with a really strong timing.They're not anymore. Everyone and their mother can farm stacks and have a far less one-trick-pony kit than her so people just play better rounded heroes that don't fall off a cliff at the slightest hiccup.Her roshing is also weaker with his buffs.
>>521155067They reverted it. She's always had 6 refractions. That was the nerf that ruined the hero in the first place. Besides she's not even properly buffed. Her refraction damage is still shit, doesn't work on denies and meld doesn't dispel.
>>521164817what pos are you planning to play her in
Guys...Kez is kinda sick
>>521168780He is fun to play but made of paper and get cucked hard by a single stun or root.
>jump in>literally EVERYONE turns 180 to kill me with my team right in front of themThis shit is annoying. but If i wait until my fucking dogshit offlaner moves his ass, then I get pinged and yelled at.
More like GG.Quinn.Hairline am I right
I just played with the most dogshit Anti mage i've ever seen.He just wouldnt destroy the enemy base even when they are all fucking fighting us in our jungle and are commiting hard to a teamfight, AND LOSING. That nigger would still go to jungle at min 50 and build stupid shit like satanic. Its amazing we actually won, this nigger was so fucking bad at this game it was actually fucking unbelievable.
>>521168780My favorite new hero, aside from maybe Monkey King. At first I thought his voice lines didn't suit him, but then I realized he's supposed to be a very young guy (other Dota males are much older) and an over the top parody of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Now I thoroughly enjoy them. >I fly into battle... figuratively
>>521173641I actually checked dota buff, this retard had only 37 games on record???Don't you need 100 matches to play Ranked?All his matches are ranked tooIm telling you, this game is fucking rigged.
>>521168969buy bkb lol
>>521173840you also must be a new player
>>521174323Yeah, New player.
>>521174560what rank are you then
>>521173840Could be that some of the matches are privated? I can't remember if Dotabuff scrapes the whole profile or not for missed games if you private then unprivate.
>>521173840>>521174560i bet it hurts knowing that newfag Antimage will eventually learn this game and start climbing mmr while you'll still be stuck in this shitter bracket with 9k+ played hours
>>521179353I'm sure you're an expert on how that feels, peesg.
When is RTZ playing
>>521179353Lmao why you doing him like that
Just had a game with the nicest Huskar ever.>does his best to be there for fights>initiates and tanks all of the enemy's shit for us>always has buyback ready>cheers team on in team chat while deadWhat a bro. Wish every Huskar was like him (minus the dying but it can't be helped).
>>521173840Dota buff says I have 10 games played when I have 50 or more at this point
>>521182643You should kiss his dick if you like him this much
Leaguechads are laughing at us...
>>521183029I gave him a commend. Better than sex. Best anyone can do.
>>521183257who?
new marci dropped
>>521183423better put it back
>>521183257Wrong board go back to >>>/lgbt/
New mid player here. Is Earth Sprit mid playable or is he gutted too much from the recent patch?My mains so far:>OD>Invoker>Clinkz>KunkkaI need another hero for mid. Reached 1.7k mmr with under 300 matches, lmao at people stuck in this league for thousands of matches kek.
>>521186424He's good but only if you're an autist with a thousand games on him.
>>521186424He is playerble (~50% winrate as mid), but his playstyle is radically different from any hero you named above and is centered on high mobility.This is true for all spirit brothers in the game (Earth, Ember, Storm and Void), Puck, Kez, Monkey King and QOP.
>>521186949Forgot to add Pangolier. And anyway, most Dota payers would call Earth the most difficult spirit brother, so keep that in mind too
>>521186903>He's good but only if you're an autist with a thousand games on him.Fair.>>521186949>He is playerble (~50% winrate as mid), but his playstyle is radically different from any hero you named above and is centered on high mobility.>>521186949>but his playstyle is radically different from any hero you named above and is centered on high mobility.Honestly I don't mind, I don't want to have the same sort of mains, variety is good if I limit myself to 5 heroes.I generally just avoid bottle heroes though (especially must-have ones like QOP) and cancer shit like Viper/Sniper.
>>521065289Finally a set befitting of /d2g/. Which hero should be in drag next?
>>521188570Slark needs a slutty set
>>521065289https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/92018248do you guys remember an old youtube dota video with juggernaut and rocky linesit was so kino...
>>521188570>trannymind
>>521187185>And anyway, most Dota payers would call Earth the most difficult spirit brother, so keep that in mind tooPlaying something with low pick rate is good on lane.
>>521189431www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtO6Jglpod0
New to Dota, how do I not end up underleveled as a support/offlane? Do I just stick with my team and hope they get a kill?
>>521193046Stick with team when ults are up and look for fightsKill creeps between fights if no objectives are viableGet xp on mid lane as support around 10 minutes for level 6 if you don't have it already, if the mid doesn't leave lane at this point he's griefing Always go for wisdom shrines
>>521193046STAND YA BASE
>>521193046Aside from the tips anon above already listed, you can also make huge stacks and then help cores clear them. Don't kill the stack creeps, just damage them, you'll still get xp. Invisible supports can also watch enemy cores farm while calling in a gank, this also gives xp even though it's the enemy that kills the creeps.
>>521115821i havent played in a while but doesnt jugg have one of the highest winrates in dotabuff
>>521194581Probably not, who cares about dotabuff, this isnt 2014 grandpa, get real.
good morning dotards
>>521194581Jugg has been abandoned in pro play for many months now.
>>521194709i WILL tell my grandkids how i raped sniper/troll players with jugg like its iwojima i dont care>>521194764Pro meta eludes me, 10 years ago same as now
>>521194728good morning retard :)
Hero for this feel
>>521194885I invented radiance jugg only real ones remember my posts
>>521195108i didnt know english back then my friend i wasnt here
>>521194293To add: don't assume the mid is griefing if he stays there past the 10 minute mark. That part of the tip is situational.
>>521194728Good goyning, goy! Did you goyslave well today?
>>521189431>op instakill faggot furry lmao
Considering buying the pudge velveteen set for the toy pudge persona, but idk, not feeling like it. Does toy pudge do anything cool that normal pudge doesn't? Cooler animations, or some shit?PA persona, for example, has cool blood and crit animations
>>521195206>not learning english solely by playing warcraft 3 20 hours a day when being 6 years oldngmi zoomie your learning patterns are a spec of dust compared to millenigod intellect
>>521191782>https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/92018248ty based
>>521194728You are a NIGGER
>>521195478He literally becomes a toy, even skips like a kid sometimes while walking and has an entirely different voice + sound effects. You can demo everything and see for yourself.
>>521196113Yeah, I did all that, man, but just wasn't very impressed by the toy aspect. I meant more like special animations, like the skill animations for the PA persona. Didn't notice anything like that.Him being a toy is kinda cool
Won a game and lost a game last nightTrying to play more weekday Dota to shake the rust off after 5 years away but man I'm still feeling it
I'm getting dota in my youtube shorts now and every time it's MK manfighting another hero and winning
>>521198438bonus damage, crit and lifesteal are powerful traits
>>521195268These days I've seen people advocate to stay on lane and going aggressively into enemy jungle and triangle (if you win lane) rather than ganking lanes.
>>521193046>hope they get a kill?Enjoy watching your full hp+mana Sven completely ignore a near-dead enemy literally walking past him in favor of swinging at the frogs.
Been spamming Ringmaster, how the fuck does this nigga have a ~48% wr? I've been destroying games with him, literally gained 500 MMR from him in the course of two weeks. Great trader in early lanes, you've got a save for your cores, an ult that can disable or zone half the enemy team, just a lot of fun and utility. Also female Ringmaster persona when? A Harley Quinn (original) type look would be kino.
>>521203215>how the fuck does this nigga have a ~48% wr?Retards max tame the beasts instead of impalement arts
>play pos4>our pos5 Clockwerk complains that enemy pos3 Viper is getting free farm>tells me to TP there>viper gets double kill from me and Clock while AM keeps farming lane creeps 20 meters away>techies doublekills AM+Clock
>Wraith King was chosen by both teams!>Legion Commander was chosen by both teams!>Dawnbreaker was chosen by both teams!
>Seleri kicked from GG and has to join Mouz so Watson can have his Kazakh boyfriend be his supportWon't be long until Tofu teams with the other Asians kicks the last Whites from GG
>>521203710impalement art max is the most popular buildit sucksyou must be retarded to think its good
>>521206315>escape act at level 4That's not the correct build
>>521206423you think impalement arts max is good, wtf do you know
>>521206504It's called being correct
>>521206724according to what, your opinion is dumb
>>521203710fuck off troon. Q is way better than E.
>>521209186do you have a version of this where the text is legibleasking for a friend
>>521179353???Anon are you okay?is there something you want to tell us?
>>521209103You don't know how to play
>>521209186Interesting how almost all of this was completely changed but they kept the backstory of N'aix being a thief for whatever reason.
thoughts
>>521209979Actually I do. way more than you in fact, troon.
Obsessed
>>521210360long hill to climb starting from the bottom, but seleri has the right mindset to win if he keeps his confidencelooking forward to seeing his roster
>>521210432You're trash, troonbrain
impalement is just superior to tame the beasts, if you think otherwise you're probably a huge noob
>>521210682explain how
>>521210682it's situational
>>521210360Too early to say anything without knowing who his teammates are going to be.
>>521209186Imagine if Valve did not make so much money off of skins and lootboxes that they had to make a CRPG using the Dota assets to make more money. At least give a small studio a shot with the license and let them use the assets and engine to save time.
>>521212103its just obvious bro. you noob or something?
>>521210360this ouryear mouzbros!
>>521210360I guess there were no complications after all
Why the fuck they got Waga casting playoffs
Why bother going to the US if you are going to stream most of the tournament from a warehouse in Raleigh. Vacation for the cabal.
>>521212103Having 4 uses of impalement as the laning phase ends and you start moving with the team is so much stronger than rank 4 of ttb, the constant long range damage, slow, and vision beats out anything ttb offersTame the beasts wins some lanes really hard, but maxing it is situational
>>521210682>Shit damage early game since its only scaling is the % damage based on total health.>Gets easily blockd by lane creeps or any summons/illusions>doesn't let you clear camps or quickly unmake enemy neutral pull.>It doesn't cancel TPs or channels.Its much much better to combo Whip with some other stun because of its huge amounts of damage, it wins you fights early on. also you can actually kill people when you hit level 6. which is why Ringmaster is a much better pos 4 than pos 5, his lane presence is not enough to make a difference by himself against a half decent offlane combo.Dagger only comes into play against STR cores, which is also a good idea to pair with an Upgraded urn to stack % Damage on heroes with huge HP pools.Im objectively right and there is no way you can prove me wrong :)
>>521215587Waga and Gareth are remote casters. Starting from tomorrow there will be a stage and I assume also on-site casters (that's how it usually goes).
>>521218191Are you stupid? Tournaments are just money laundering and circlejerk. Its the same people everytime.
>>521218263>laning is the entire game
>>521218896what is good in lane often wins games
>>521218896Yes? the first and most important part as a support??Thanks for confirming you are an absolute 2k shitter.
>>521218263>shit damage early gameIt does 75 impact damage alongside the max health damage>easily blocked by lane creeps/illusskill issue, position better>doesn't let you clear camps/block pullsirrelevant, you have other ways>doesn't cancel tps/channelsyou only need 1 point in whip for thisMaxing whip can be good for the instant damage but like the other anon said, it's situational. Daggers are generally better.
>>521219064Post ingame rank
Bets fellas?
>>521219137>It does 75 impact damage alongside the max health damageyes, shit damage. you don't pick this for the damage, you pick it for the slow and vision it gives.>skill issueYou never played against shadow demon or naga support, did you?>Irrelevant My man, you need to respond to the enemy pulls, sentry wards alone wont save you unless you like to feed when dewarding with your slow ass attack speed.>you only need 1 point in whip for thisas opposed to the skill which only scaling is some % damage and charges as opposed to flat damage which works better early on.
>>521220180>shit damageEach knife is 150 damage or more on 99% of the heroes, what hero except medusa doesn't have at least 500 hp in lane even without taking starting items into consideration?>You never played against shadow demon or naga support, did you?Literally no one picks these heroes, are you a time traveler from an ancient patch? I haven't seen either in at least 100 games this patch>dismissing the strength of charges instead of cooldownThere's no way you're this retarded
>>521220169Leaning radiant, but it's unclear who's the mid.
>>521220169leaning dire. necro in general cucks slark and tide is strong af this patch, but holy shit I feel like lina+bane sup line up is really not good.
>>521220169Dire
>>521221165>Each knife deals yadda dadawow 150 damage before reductions compared to any actual nuke. Magic Missile deals 340 damage at level 4.and 85 at level 1 (10 more than knife LMAO!)>Literally no one picks these heroesbecause you play in the shit bracket.>dismissing the strength of charges it pales in comparison to actual CC and a nuke to pair with your ult.
new record bros
>>521220169jakiro, slark and NS are monsters
>>521222021Regardless of who their mid is, they at least have strong lockdown for Slark and Puck.>anon above
>>521222225>and 85 at level 1 (10 more than knife LMAO!)Knife deals 150 at level one, can't you read?>because you play in the shit bracket.Yeah, I'm just a 9k shitter>muh nukeThe CC barely scales and the nuke scales worse than more knives
>>521223169It doesn't scale better because its the skill you should be picking early on.:)Thanks for literally proving my point.
>>521223354Are you retarded? Why would you not max the skill that scales better with ranks?
someone tell sing banshee's curse causes 33% miss chance and that anti magic shell is only a pipe instead of a bkb
>>521223902thats literally what you are not doing.
>>521223905???this is the dota 2 general.
>>521223954I'm maxing the skill that gets +0.8 seconds of slow and at least +150 damage per rank, not the skill that gets between 0.1 and 0.2 seconds of fear and between 25 and 100 damage per rank
Which heroes are the glup shittos of dota? I don't see that gargoyle thing much, don't even know what it does
>that gate play
>>521224552Gambler
>>521224171yeah it's an arcade game
>>521206883I will violate your mother with my foot, and then shit inside her putrescent cunt, then sew it shut so it can further decay
>>521221365>>521222021>>521222057>>521222486We won, slark got fed early and lina got assraped when I jumped her.
>>521226437>bkb and nullifierYou'll get at least 1k mmr just for knowing those two items exist
>>521225879can you do this to me tooi din have vagina though
>>521226437>Bane rushing aghsI just love when supports rush aghs.
>>521227667that's 2nd item thougheverbeit
>beastmaster midOk I heavily dislike this.
>>521210360What happened at gg then?
anti mage
>medusa 5What
oldfag here, what happened to tobiwan? the british dude
>>521230807>british
para overcooked
>lets pick dusa 5 for a guy who has literally never played dusa beforehow does dusa and PA kill a darkseer that has hit lvl 4 or 5?
>>521230807Some chick he had a one night stand with got upset he didn't want a long term relationship so he got cancelled.
>>521230807Tobi got cancelled because he had consensual sex with a woman, also he's australian.Unless you meant what happened to 2GD as well. His alcoholism might've caught up with him for a while but on a brighter note he's 2 months sober and hitting the gym now so who knows maybe we'll see him again.
>>521230807
>>521231278>never again in the history of dotafuck. every time.
imagine being synderen seeing your gf accuse a guy of "rape" for making her upset...i'd be upset
What a terrible draft
crystallis was right parivison was left
unfortunately these drafters don't have D2PT anymore to know what to pick
volvo i have an ideajapanese juggernaut voice pack>cooldown>時間はまだ!>oom>マナ足りない。>missing>見えない。>last of my kind but first in this>最後の生存者は最初。>what coward runs>臆病のか。>attack>戦え。etc.
Thank god dusa 5 will never show up in my pubs
>>521231162isn't that chick married to synd now?
>>521232978don't set yourself up for disappointment like that
>>521232350this is a good thing
>>521232350lol and the pros are crying about it now after begging valve to do it this is why you shouldnt listen to these egoist
>>521232774Western ¨japanese¨ VAs are fucking awful.
>>521231162Guess she found a sucker lol
>lose>jack off to Mireska AI slop>requeue>double down>winIt's that simple folks.
>>521234209Get a real Japanese then.
I'm still mad about tobi getting cancelledThis me too shit...she was a fucking groupieI'm sure tobi had absolutely no clue she was upset during the whole process too because thats just how women areThen she held a grudge for a decade until she could cancel him
I PLAY PUDGE ONLY AND I HAD 2 OTHER GUYS TRYING TO PICK PUDGE IN A GAME. ONE OF THEM GOT TO IT BEFORE ME WE WON
awesome, some roastie regretted it the next day and then ruins a dudes carer. sad, many such cases
>>521235453Men are second class citizens
we gamers are the most oppressed and persecuted group in the world
>>521234679they dont give a shit about dota
Ember Spirit gets a magical barrierVoid Spirit gets an all damage barrierEarth spirit should get a physical barrier as his innate
>>521237829Fucker gets 500 escapes and debuffs and disables as it is. He doesn't need a barrier.
>>521238442He needs it
>>521238857>49%Nah.
>>521238857>initiator>escapeYou have to be in the fog of war or behind a tree to initiate and against competent people its hard to escape
another esl eventanother event with shit production
>discord goes down>casters go silentnice esport dotards
maldrine has to be sweating... what if falcons wins this tourney?
bts couldnt even have a mic stutter without this place blowing up
>>521240495LMAO. Every day, every day this shitty studio's audio is out of sync. Every day they miss 3/4 of the draft or even the entire drafting phase. Every day, ching chong Merlini is dirty and disheveled while casting, unshowered and unkempt because of his refusal to shower and his dedication to mouthbreathing. Every day the fat jew David "LD" Gormanberg is a fat jew, fat and a jew. Every day GoDz sucks the tiny cock of the Chinese dota scene just a little bit harder, desperately hoping for the Chinese load to be shot deep into his throat while trying to look "cool" with his awful pedophile mustache. Every day, Zyori "S N I F F B O Y" sniffs his dirty scrotum on camera, misses early teamfights and wears a pink bow in his disgusting, terrible "hair". Every single day this goes on, and you people eat it up. You love it. This is absolutely disgusting. I'm disgusted and I hate every single one of you, every single miscreant that donated to this horrid studio's kickstarter, every single retard that watches their streams without AdBlock, every single fan of this atrocious, revolting, insulting excuse for a "studio".
They had casters on site for the groups, I don't get why they went back to remote. I assume they were in the same location just not on the stage
>>521240704lmfaoo
Great Rosh bug
lol rosh couldnt enter pit and was perma yeet mode?
Apologize to quinnao
The fuck are Spirit doing
>EEU is good>>521243678Patented slav "top group, eat shit in playoffs"
I'm a benigger, just learned about manta being able to remove silence. Any other shit like this I should know? I'm playing AM and jugg
>>521248441Satanic also removes silence and other effects that can be removed by basic dispels
>>521248441manta makes you not exist for like .2 seconds which you can dodge shit
>chenmore like CHLENahahaxaxaxaxa
>>521249182based kinomagina more like VAGINA
quinn qop...
ringmasters save ability is completely busted
as opposed to any other save?
Are they really gushing about player keyboardsWhat the fuck>>521250796*cold embraces you*
>>521251057ww "save" is pretty garbo imoits great as an after fight fountain
>>521240704glad to see this pasta still posted here after all these years
>>521240704Where did it all go wrong dotards?A decade ago felt like only the beginning of the rise of esports, but little did we know it was actually the peak.
>>521252929venture capital invested heavily in esports a decade ago or so, then pulled out just as hard as they put in so yeah its kinda dead now
>>521253005Can I assuredly blame Blizzard for everything?
>>521251057its a better SD save lol
>>521250796It's actually trash.
>>521253216Nah Blizzard (not Activision) did its best to strangle its own e-sports scenes from the getgo. They were largely irrelevant, and most e-sports money revolved around shit like CS Apex and COD outside of MOBAs like LoL and Dota.
>>521230807a snake that got what he fucking deserved
>>521253769tranny detected, go dialate
>>521252929Valve killed off TI starting from 2022. Otherwise the prize pool could be 60 million for all we know and the AVERAGE viewership could be 1,5 million or more. Don't forget, 2021 was the PEAK and it showed no sign of stopping whatsoever, only ramped up. Valve made it die and Valve alone are responsible.
>ammar sven>skitter abaddonweird
>>521254495So it was an indoors job, but who and why?
>>521253005See>>521254495
>>521254576>quinn>sneyking>cr1t- (honorary)is this the most north american dota team?
silencer le balance
>>521250796Except it isnt, Wytern's embrace is actual bullshit.>no mana cost>heals
>>521255150What happened to silencer being a walking creep and throw pick?
>>521255281well he is extremely easy to kill in lane. but if you can't, then he's just godlike at harassing.
>>521255150it needs to be a talent not a facetsilencer is supposed to be countered by items but he comes online at 6 when your mid can barely afford euls
>>521254495They listened to reddit and pros, also they unironically made a good decision to pull out, the e-sports bubble is collapsing and was never a sustainable venture
silencer is solo winning this game
>>521254649I have no idea, but I surmised that Valve's attitude to Dota is indifference at best and contempt at worst after this and several other events. Perhaps they only have like 1 or 2 respected guys who want to develop Dota and all the other ones want the game to die so they can work less and those two guys couldn't save TI, since the organizers simply wanted to work less that much.
>>521255952Why don't they hire dotards if they need help?Speaking seriously, even the people who contribute bug reports on github seem to be significantly experienced.
This green overlay looks retarded
>you have a spirit hero>he does literally nothing for your team???
>>521256184dotards are STUPID
>>521255903Show me reddit threads or pro posts with a considerable number of upvotes and comments that call for abolishing TI.>the e-sports bubble is collapsing See>2021 was the PEAK and it showed no sign of stopping whatsoever, only ramped up. Valve made it die and Valve alone are responsible.Funded by Dota players with Valve taking 3/4 and TI 1/4.
>>521256587>the bubble was really really big so there's no way it could pop!Come on now
>falcshit
>>521256184I don't know dude. They have 330 people working in the entirety of Valve (I'm serious).Perhaps they imagine themselves to be "free artists" that don't want to be "tied down" by long projects and want to work on random stuff that they fancy while getting money from Steam.
ammar is playing full carry build but isnt going carry facetjust why
Our girl saving the day
>>521257270She's gonna die once and disappear
this sven offlane has been so fucking garbage
>>521256986You're speaking of economic bubbles, I'm speaking of Dota's closed ecosystem fueled by Dota players themselves, which Valve has destroyed. Those are not the same thing.
>>521257340Oh really?
>>521258085>>521257270how come yurnero doesn't want to save his race with her?
>butterfingers your daedalus despite having map control for hg ?
>>521254046stfu newfag
don't atf and quinn hate each other
Why did Skiter and Ammar grief this game?
>>521258359He has a sister for that.
>>521258513If they didn't before I imagine they will after this
>>521258645no matter what they think of each other, getting quinn as a stand in on short notice is pretty good
>>521258403
>>521258513why do they hate each other? i'm not aware of these pros bickering i thought pubs flaming stopped at just that, reminds me of that clip recently of gorgc and dukalis spazzing at each other on voice
Manta is such a greedy item for Abba. It maximizes DPS and gives you a dispel but 1 Psi Blade kills your clones anyway. Really could've fit something else instead.
>amarfucking lmao
>>521259032ta is bad against illusions
LE EBIN EULS, HECKIN FORCE STAFF!! GHOST SCWEPTER!!! WOW LE GLIMMER CAPE!!
>>5212594634 horsemen of the apocalypse
>>521259329it's not just her it's versus a whole team of aoeeven something like disperser gives you the dispel plus the mana break to remove 1 more instance of refraction per right click
Lanaya's Crude Mind Breaker
>>521259642
>>521259032Core Abbadon in general is a bad pick, so everything done to make him work just looks bad.
>>521259463what if they make it like mythics in league andyou can only pick one save itemleague players hated it though and they removed the system that you can only pick 1 "tier 5" item per game
the sven offlane was just a dead pickdidn't even pick carry facet but still tried to go full carry even after mega losing the lane
What happened to morphling?
>pick TA>enemy has 3 gossamersnice fucking game.lets keep buffing supports btw.
>>521260701he's op but pros haven't catched on
anyone's been watching grubbys tournament preparations?
the seething unranked zeus ping spamming me and feeding when they need my mars god energy to win a 4v5 lolwe had 5 btwI get level 25 and we stomp the base, all these fing carries begging me to hold their hand all game, when they dive with clink and zeus lolfirst game on lol and I made the mistake of trying to bail them out at the start of game so I got a bunch of deathsit is literally impossible for an unranked match player to fall back to their tower, it doesn't occur to them until they're 20% health
>Max daggers on Ringmaster>lose lane??????????
Yyyyyyyyyyeeeeppp Im thinking offlane wk is based nope I will not elaborate
>>521254495>Otherwise the prize pool could be 60 million for all we know and the AVERAGE viewership could be 1,5 million or more.dumb
>>521263840What's she going to do
>only two series todayWhy
Post old images
>>521269529why the mek tho
what if someone said mars is the best support in the game, how would you react
Heh, Quinn of Pain
>>521268778Eclipse you.
>be smoking weed with my black homie>go to bathroom to take a fat shit>come back and I accidentally left my laptop open>theres interracial trap porn on it>he has his huge thiccc 14 inch black mamba on the table>"so iz we doin diz shii or nah?">I get my ass pumped for hours>sissygasm 12 timesWhat do I do now the tortologni guide didn't prepare me for this?
>>521272370this is a dota thread
>>521269529
>>521270652i would laugh since mars is an awful laner
low key i want to play this game sooo bad but holy shit i can't believe what is happening. literally every single game is a stomp. ~40 minutes for games with cores that are like 0 10. how did matchmaking go so wrong. i've been playing for literally 15 years and it's never been this bad. it's a waste of time. again and again trolls and griefers and guys that just can't play at all. is the playerbase dead?
>>521270306p sure its ironic
Can they unfuck spectre now?
> Don't speak on mic> Don't insult anyone in chat> Only ever ay GL HF at start> Say GG, GL Next after every game no matter what the outcome> Chat disabled, dropped from 8k score to 6kWhen did dotards become such fucking pussies?
>>521278503Chatting literally doesn't matter, only thing that matters is if you grief or not
Patch soon, I have foreseen it.
>>521279759Again, I don't. I main pos4/5 and I pool resources for my core, I ward and deward as often as I can afford too. I dropped 2k score, thats multiple games of reports. My behaviour score has gone up from 8k to 10k, but my comms score went down. The worst thing I said was "Nice try pudge, better luck next hook" to a pudge that misseed a hook on a DCd stationary target. I try to be positive and friendly.
>>521280141Exactly, it doesn't matter what you say
Weaver's depush is actually disgusting
>>521279917Confluence status?
>>521263840>>521268778>urge to play dawnbreaker>every single game the enemy support first picks silencerpain
>Wait 20 minutes for a game>7 minutes in my carry breaks all his items buys all the wards from the store and spends the rest of the game running araund the jungle not even killing any jungle creeps just walking araund and buying wards whenever another one pops up in the store so he can place them on jungle camps because i took the wisdom runeOh ok.Yeah maybe i should just abandon this account a start a fresh one with a normal behavior score.
dota is grief central. at this point i consider this game broken. they need some K/D ratio in the ladder.
Auroth my beloved
>>521285632I like the idea of this hero but between her freeze and her ult she attracts teammate tilt like no other
>>521285632Built for voring anons
>>521282294>Yeah maybe i should just abandon this account a start a fresh one with a normal behavior score.i have done this very thing. delete my steam account believing i've been flagged or something.make fresh one. climb to 3.2k mmr pretty fast. smurfing.mp4then plummet to 500mmr. endless grief/afk/abandon/trollingimpossible to climb back up.delete steam account again. the game is just dead.
>>521286146I remember rewatching a game where I won my lane against axe/wyvern and the axe kept writing 'FUCK YOU WYVERN' on the map, either because he was muted or because his behaviour score was too low to chat. It was a solid 30 mins of this. I remember the wyvern signed off with 'fun game, nice team' as their fountain died and thinking nothing of it, until I'd watched the replay and was kinda sad. He didn't even play that badly, just missed one heal in lane which probably wouldn't have saved axe anyway. Hope he didn't quit dota for good lol
>>521286725feels bad man
Guess the hero
>>521290140Clearly medusa
>>521290140Probably something viable like Lina.
>>521290140Alchemist.
>>521290140Mireska Sunbreeze, the Dark Willow
>>521292157Cocksleeve
>>521290140Lion
>>521290341>>521290634>>521291878>>521292157>>521292940BHUsing his R to proc khanda (which procced signet) over and over without leaving invisibility
>>521293303uh oh based
>>521293303Did that work? 12 second cooldown is a long time for chip damage.
>>521294987True, but there are DOT factors here to stop blink
>>5212951077.38b or c turned Signet into HP Removal. No longer cancels blink.
Nice game, dotards.
>>521295458Just buy more Diffusals.
>>521295515idiot
>>521295637I'm no idiot, I'm the 40%+.
cyclone 2 or vader 4 ?
On paper, WK harpoon doesn't make sense, but it always works really well for me.
There is no laughterOnly pain
>>521296567>no frontline without Medusa>lose most of the game>enemy team can't push high ground against NP dusa>win 80 minute siegeCan't imagine how mad Dire was about losing.
>>521296532Echo Sabre always makes sense on a melee carry. Especially one who already buys Blink Dagger regularly for mobility and gap closing.
On paper, dagon techies doesn't make sense, but it always works really well for me.
>>521296885It was the greatest post-game chat ever. They were UNBELIEVABLY pissed. We were dealing with mega creeps for over 30 minutes. They just started 5-man ancient rushing but Dusa simply shredded them too quickly with my lockdown.By far one of the craziest matches I've had in a very, very long time.
>>521297058What did he mean by this
le only constant.
>>521297802I miss when support Riki with Necrobook was still a thing.I miss Necrobook.
>>521297802Nothing wrong with a lil riki support action
>>521297802Sleep dart was such an incredibly good idea
>>521297802You meme like it isn't true, but it is. You are literally the only constant. Act like a cunt, get grouped with cunts.
>57.22% winratedefend this
Rain what's the current meta for starting rubick items are we 2 faeries and blight or ring of basilius or ironic bladesbof attacj
>>521299598sometimes he loses
>>521300026Well the build I go isTango/Faerie/Wand/Branch/2xSentry/ClarityOr ditch 1 of the sentries for an extra branch to build into WandPretty strong right-click. I haven't been picking him recently however in favor of Ringmaster.I don't like first pick Rubick anymore, I only ever pick him if I get to pick second round.
>>521297650Basically, you hit the ethereal blade button, then the dagon button but make sure it's level 5 for the big bucks, then explode button to boom on them and top it off with a dab of tazors and you just did a 800+ damage nuke with a silence and a disarm and you can just smack the remaining hp off it's the perfect plan
>>521300362also noteI go tranquils on Rubick and lens rush, Rubick doesn't need mana boot and drum/BoB works much better on him against most heroes (and counters + has synergies with certain spellsteals)
>>521300482>tranquilsIsn't there an anon who always says tranquils are a griefSomeone wake that guy up he needs to play devil's avocado
>>521298739yeah Im totally the same a legion solo dueling a farmed PA without any break or true sight counter and feeding her duels back to back. Totally the same skill level.
>>521300664I mean Rubick is a brawler, he loves to fight, you should constantly fight with himWithout tranquils he spends too much downtime or money on regen
>>521210360>Takes a break>A fellow Kazakh picked by Watson replaces him in the interim>GG announce that Seleri is leaving>People think he's quitting dota since it was announced not long after "his break">Was actually kicked by GG and has to start at the bottom again in MouzQuinn, Ace and Tofu are the biggest backstabbers while Quinn and Ace blaming anyone but themselves for the reason GG is shit
>>521300362What makes you like Ringmaster and what say you about his E Also should Kez be deleted and when is Black King Hero releasing and should I buy the Switch 2
>>521300834If you werent, they wouldnt be in your game.
>>521301886Okay, retard.
>>521300852he's a support, supports don't farm in the first place, nab
>56%not sure if ta has ever had good pub winrate before
>>521301982u heard the guy dotards grab ur ta ws while u can
>>521300026>>521300362>>521301307>>521300482You're AIDS, go back to >>>/lgbt/
>>521302181truth bomb
>>521301923You're quick to point out the other peoples mistakes but never your own, this is why you are grouped with them, Learn your lesson, take the L.
>>521301932..Yes. I didn't say they did.However, Rubick is a very aggressive support and can steal enemy farming spells that are very cheap to cast. Having offensive wards and something like Earth Spike or Arc Lightning lets him steal camps all the time, and at a super safe distance with his cast range.
this is a kind of weird online tournament going on.xtreme gaming is attending pgl wallachia pretty soon i guess they're in europe and might as well play in some b-tier online tournament.
>>521298739>>521298576we literally lost because this idiot was useless the whole gameif he picked any real support this game would've been an easy fucking win.>has no disables>all his ¨utility¨ is countered by a single bkb.>deals no damage because not farming heroes and cant farm creepsYet somehow this game thinks this waste of space is deserving to be paired with me, an actual fucking player.
>>521302228>Rubick is a very aggressive supportlol no.
>>521302318Only constant.
@521302223Okay retard.
>>521302336Dumbass lol
>>521302417>>521302519lol it's the reason rubick is not getting picked. like lmao. stay bad.
>>521302602Because people dont know how to play the hardest support in the game, duh. He's always been a negative winrate hero for a reason
no the retard post guy was talking about the hard support riki only constant case
>>521302643like the hero is dogshit at ganking unless you already got some good spell stolen
>>521302643hardest support in the game is a massive reach when you have kotl chen tinker etc
>>521302318Ignore him. There's at least one guy who responds to every post with that line like a bot because he himself never got past 1k MMR.
What should I get for my midnight snack
>you are the only constant bloody bitch!>feeds legion 500 damage
>>521304247Anon, why are you feeding lc?
>>521303750cottage cheese time
>>521254649Beautiful, magnificent, tasteful
>team is all shitskins crying about me farming as the pos 1 >start imitating them and just brool>they start crying about me feeding.yeah, im going full retard.
You ever have a guy that keeps trying to tell the team what to do and within 2 seconds you can tell hes the worst person on the team?
>>521305418I always grief if my team acts like that
taking the kotl pos 4 pill
This is who this game matches me with.
>>521307290That's completely on you, buddy.
>>521308301Yeah totally my fault. certainly, because I choose to play with literal braindead idiots.
>>521299598What did they do?
>>521308601the hero has had really high winrate for a long time. but they buffed bone guard and people have realized you can farm jungle really fast with it even if you get btfo'd in lane.
>>521308504You have to be legitimately retarded to be matched with new players if your game hours exceed let's say eight hundred.And by the way you whine and check your teammates profiles it can be safely assumed you have accumulated hours more than that number.
>>521308894>You'd have to be completely retarded to be affected by things you cannot control ?????What is this logic.My man, My behaviour score is 12k and so is my comm score.I have like 6 times the hours of this nigger and yet somehow i get matched with these fucks. This game is rigged to make you lose.But I bet you think you are the exception aren't you.
So what's the point of having stage tournaments in dota with no audience? In CS you have LAN so it's different but there's no LAN for dota so you're playing online on a stage for what purpose?
>>521309016Ok, are you playing unranked?
>>521309928This tournaments is supposed to have live spectators starting from today, but I'm note sure how many will turn up to watch a random Dota event in a random NA town (NA is the smallest region of Dota).
>>521308706>what it takes to be viable is to be able to hit the jungle and ignore lane Sad.
>>521310210>tournament>not sure
>>521310210The PGL Wallachia series have had no audience
>>521310408Yes, and BLAST events have no audience either. ESL One events always have a live audience, while ESL DreamLeague are fully online.
>>521309928Laundering money.
>>521310545Yes which doesn't make sense because there is no LAN for dota it's entirely online so why have an in person studio event when there's no audience? In CS you have LAN matches so it's different from being online
>>521310685It's an intermediate step between full online and stage play; looks more serious and atmospheric.Dota's esports scene used to be centered on huge Valve events and TI, but they have since then turned into a target of Valve's sabotage. What you see now are the decisions of third party organizations.
>>521310231It's all about the farm.Whirlwind WR was meta last year not because she was OP (despite redditors whining otherwise), but because she could farm 500 ancient stacks an hour by pressing R, and then do nothing with that farm.
>>521311003>looks more serious and atmospheric.It does? They already have the studio with the casters and analysts for fully online events the only difference is that you interview the player/coach in person rather than on video and it's not like the players/coaches are known for their in-depth and intriguing interviews, I would say the real reason is because hiring a venue and staffing it costs more than you would make from ticket sales but at the same time not having the players in a studio and instead playing at their home/org house is cheaper still so it's perplexing that this model has arisen since it doesn't offer anything for dota
>>521311003And if you want proof, open Dota's tier 1 tournament list and look up the 3 million majors of circa 2016. Those are the big events I was referring to.Then look up the 500k majors of circa 2021-2023. Many of them had unspeakably bad production, but were still considered Valve events. Then Valve abandoned both the majors and TI, with the former disappearing and the latter turning into a mere simulacrum of the events of the past (since 2022).
>>521311498I think it does.And renting or owning a studio (I suspect both PGL and Fissure actually own theirs, maybe BLAST too) is probably much cheaper than renting a live venue for the audience.
>>521311821>is probably much cheaper than renting a live venue for the audience.I state that having a venue with an audienc costs more but you're right they probably own the studio but it's all moot because PGL/Fissure is likely owned by Russian gambling companies and ESL is owned by the Saudis and none of their events make money except maybe PGL/Fissure who likely own/have a stake in the betting companies who are constantly promoted
>>521312206I agree with you concerning the venue pricing and was just referring to reason this model appeared. The orgs probably just own the studios and want to make the tournament more serious.
>>521312761>the reason
>>521312761But seriously traditional sports make most of their money from selling broadcasting rights but in e-sports it's broadcast for free then there's ticket sales but we have events with no audiences so how come no one questions how constant USD$1 million prize pool events by Blast/PGL/Fissure in a studio with casters and other staff is funded
>>521313117Sponsorships and ads, duh.The gambling sponsors are paying out the ass because they make it all back hundredfold.
>>521072008What to do about a team mate communicating with you about build choices?Chad move - Mute, build radi anyway then Report when he flames you, Avoid . Can't have teamwork or co-operation in this game.Me a beta cuck - build armlet, blink/sb into prolly deso bkb aghs and play a pos 3 rather than an offlane pos 1.
>>521313117With Riot, everything is being controlled top down; they even have a potentially illegal streamer support program (illegal since it could be concealed advertisement).It's unclear how Dota's events work now, maybe it's related to the proliferation of betting sponsors, maybe it's related to money laundering, maybe it actually is profitable, who knows.
>AA mid>lose>Disruptor mid>lose>Oracle mid>lose>Clinkz mid>losewhy do I get all the meme shitters
>>521313331If the profitability is from betting sponsors then that means these events are funded by gamblers more specifically their losses isn't that something you don't want your e-sport to be propped up by
>>521315189Gambling is very big in football too. I don't watch it, just know that it's the case. https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/revealed-how-gambling-betting-industry-sponsors-european-football
lmao why is it always the PMA motherfuckers that have the biggest crash outs
>>521315539Yeah but they don't directly make money from betting they make money from selling broadcasting rights and ticket sales, does no one seem to think it's a bad idea for e-sports to be propped up by gambling sponsors who also own teams? Is there no conflict of interest? Is there no shame in promoting gambling to your audience a lot of whom are children? You have players who can't legally bet be sponsored by gambling companies
>>521314782I can solo carry games with pos 2 Mireska
>>521314782In all of those games you're the only constant
>>521316434the real fucked up part is all these meme shitters are either level 0 or level 30 on their meme heroes
>>521316589They just see videos of some rustard ghoul seal club heralds on his smurf, and they try to repeat that
Someone make a new thread
>>521315865>it's a bad idea for e-sports to be propped up by gambling sponsorsSame thing happens in CS and I don't know enough about other esports to say something about them. I'm a long time Dota watcher and I'd say the percentage of games which seemed suspicious to me was relatively low. There are a couple of teams and a certain player who I consider the most likely to be a fixer, but I won't name them since I don't like spreading rumors. I only watch tier 1 Dota though.
>>521317151>Team Spirit from Temu
Attention anons, the retard faggot has such massive mega ass AIDS that you can contract it by mearly playing rubick. Don't pick faggots play toy, its covered in cancer cum, stay safe
>>521315865
>>521317513>>521317513>>521317513fine i will
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