Previously: >>520848673Abhuman Edition>Latest News/Updates:Vermintide 2:Verminous Dreams: Free new map Devious Delvingshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/738127762059952962Versus: Dev Blog - New Versus Maphttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/5467283064514162927th Anniversary and Patch 6.4.0 + Hotfix 6.4.1 + 6.4.2https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/546728306451416068Darktide:Hotfix #62 (1.6.9)https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/499439875179679150Nightmares & Visions - Releasing 25. Marchhttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592Nightmares & Visions - Early Balance Look - Dev Bloghttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/nightmares-visions-early-balance-look-dev-blog-pt-1/105587Updates to Havoc - Dev Bloghttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/updates-to-havoc-dev-blog/105914The Forever Winterno more water drainhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2828860/view/496063443495814171>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2Left 4 Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Deep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6The Outlast Trialsand others>Future gamesKilling Floor 3 - delayedhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470Den Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBABuild planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editorFeel free to reply to the OP with updates and patchnotes.
wildfire
krak grenades
Ogryn teaches veteran about the powersword
>>521253054>>521254227which is good?
>>521255093very good! better than shredder grenades!
I love bulwark conga lines.Unironically.They can be tough to deal with, but nothing brings a smile to my face like hearing >WRECKING CREEEEWfrom the distance and be face to face with a dozen funny guys.
>today I will play havocHold on there, sir. Show me your unyielding and energy shield DPS.
>>521256395Nigger!
>>521256624
>>521256030*bullrushes them and kills them before they can get up*I got them, sah!
>>521254525>600k damagehow do i do that much damage? i can barely do 300k
>>521259735That's pretty low for my average. Missions have just been so fast after the ogryn rework>howPick ogryn and the karsolas pickaxe
>>521260832>Pick ogryn and the karsolas pickaxeI am guess Im just bad...
>>521261385Are you playing aurics?
>>521259735damage is dependent on>being good>team being bad>lots of shit to hiti hit 1.2m on a mortis trial last night because it just decided it wanted us dead and my team was fresh 30s
lol
>>521261556>mortis trailsYou also get mega buffs
>>521261590the fuck even is that game? a payday clone?
>today I will not play HavocStill haven't played even one run of that dogshit mode. Shan't.
>>521263940Based.
>>521263940Maybe you're just afraid you're not going the distance.
>>521265025shut yo rat ass up
still surpised how much gaysworkshop/fatshark still doesnt want more of my money with some relic blade skin
>>521263129yeah but i was picking shit that didn't really benefit me for muh cheevos
>>521267081post your cata banners
>>521267206i dont have any...
>>521263940Literally me
is toughness regen speed good on ogryns?
>>521267760NO
>>521267976what abouttoughnessability regenstam regen
>>521268179>toughnessGood>ability regenMid, unless you use close range barrage>stam regenMid
>>521267485
>Team absolutly bunga in auric damnation>ask them wtf is wrogn with those nigegrs>they answer in frenchlike potery
>>521268604what other two should i be running then, damage res against gunners? they always seem to fuck me up the most
>>521268798Yes
>>521268652stupid smug rat...
>>521263940I haven't played Havoc because I don't like the idea of having to join a personal group instead of a quickplay.
>>521269462Same but I don't have any friends to group with
>>521269770That's also a reason for me as well.
>>521268680french are amongst the shittiest players I ever met, and most of them are north africans anywayt. french
>he doesn't play havoc>he didn't play vermintide Cata>he claims it's by choiceHmm...... teeheehee
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
FEET STUCK IN THE FUCKING RAILWAYS CAN'T DODGE SHIT FUCKIN GAME FUCKING MAP FUCKIN DEVS I WANT SWEDES TO DIE DIE DIE!
>>521272256I hate it too. Just have to learn which positions are safe and play an ogryn because they don't get boxed in
I have a premade group to play withWe still won't touch Havoc
>>521272467Won't? or can't? hmmmm?
>>521272256Sounds like a skill issue :))
Dab on heretics
Dab on cuties
>>521279927The rat is me and the toothbrush escaping me for the last 2 years
What is the difference between running just Damnation, Auric, and Havoc? I can at least tell that Auric has the enemies be a lot tougher, but the tooltip doesn't say much beyond that, and Havoc tells me even less.
>>521284280sedition, uprising, malice, heresy, damnation are the difficulties. those scale the enemy HP and damageauric is just a few more spawns and missions on the board generally have more and harder modifiers, but it's still just regular heresy/damnation HP/damage wise
>>521284280Oh and I forgot, havoc is its own thing that is roughly equivalent to auric damnation at 18 or 20 or so and then scales up damage and hp (and other things) hard past that, up to 40
>I see demonhost>I tag demonhost>I put markers near the demonhost>I say "watch out demonhost" in fucking voice chat>a teamate even writes "demonhost" in chat>THAT FUCKING GUY walks to the demonhost and wakes her.I swear to god late night EU server is fileld with absolute low IQ slavs
>>521284807Malice is for newbiesHeresy is for shittersDamnation is for casualsAuric heresy is for retarded shittersAuric damnation is for carried retardsAuric maelstrom is for AstromongolsHavoc is for trannies
>>521255093Neither are.
>>521265025He's just smart enough to realize that playing havoc is a waste of time.
>>521272256lol chasm station, i hate that fucking section because of that
I have unlocked shadeI will now proceed to never touch a fucking elf again.Back to Bardin :D
I love going stealth + blades of faith + knife zealot and joining malice or heresy and being as toxic as possible and running ahead and doing all the objectives just to be an asshole because I am the main character of a ninja shonen anime
>>521292816You aren't good enough for aurics
>>521292816You're not toxic until you had your own reddit post complaining about your behavior I had 2
>ME GOOD >tEAM BAD>UNGA BUNGA>SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS TEEEEEAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMM>DIE
>>521293568I check every time
>>521292816ive been kicked while playing melee psyker with a tactical axe for """speedrunning""" (obliterating a room then moving on to do the next room to do the same)
>>521295748>obliterating a room>tactical axe>melee psykerBWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA
>>521295840someone clearly hasnt seen what a tactical axe can actually do when someone knows how to actually use it
>>521295971IM GONNA PEE MY PANTS AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>521296086make sure you dont get it on your duelling sword, it rusts easily and you dont want that to happen to the only weapon you can use
What are some good vet builds?
>>521296321I'm an ogryn mainMelee psykers are a f*cking joke
>>521294316Please make more posts like this in the future :)
>>521296453>I'm an ogryn mainProofs?
>OCE>impossible to get Havoc games>switch to SEA>drop 4 ranks>switch backWorthlessA level 70 H29 OCE is worth two level 250 H40 players
>>521297017I'm hank. Maybe you've heard of me?
>>521297448LMAO
Reminder that you are never getting autocannons added to the game since single stubbers exist now.
>>521297816This is the light attack retard btw
>>521298483who
>>521298559A worthless retard
>>521298559Wildfiretard
>play stealth loner zealot>run ahead>team dies but I am invincible>complains before I pick them up>play knife taunt ogryn>run ahead>team dies but I am invincible>compliments before I pick them upWhen are they going to figure it out?
>>521296362This is my fun vet build, for enjoying head clicking and not running out of ammo. An Infantry Lasgun build to hit a nice spread of 1 headshot breakpoints. Gunners, Flamers. and everything below. Both ragers at mid range with the help of opening salvo. Otherwise Opening Salvo is just there to smooth the curve when opening from a cold startThe mkVII can technically reach the gunner and flamer breakpoints too, but is stuck at mid-long range to do it, where mkIX can work within 12mMelee weapon, something that can handle crushers. Shovel for the true guardsman experience.
>>521299935>invisibleAll enemies attack your team instead>tauntAll enemies attack you
>>521300226Doesn't matter if I'm a full room ahead, which keeps happening with ogryn because he's a wrecking ball. But I doubt there will ever be a stigma against rushing ogryns like there is for zealots.
>>521299935Shitters cannot handle aggro dumps and see you going invisible and leaving them with a problem they queued too high for.
>>521300715theres already a stigma against rumbler spamming retards after the reworkcuz its so fucking unfun to play with
after playing h40 since the update 2-3 times a day i've come to the conclusion that this gamemode is dogshit now. it's literally just spawn rng now. soemtimes you get raped and there is literally nothing you can do about it
>>521300025me, personally>swap Catch a Breath for stun immunity>swap suppression (on a precision weapon, ew) for team toughness restore>swap Camouflage for the other option (the crouch/standstill playstyle is shit)>use the extra Focus stacks to drop Rending Strikes while keeping all the same breakpoints and get Bring it Down>swap Determined for Demolition TeamAnd I get that this is a LARP build but personally I'd look into swapping the lasgun for the Graia Mk7, it's just the same thing but with more damage, letting you swap out Shock Trooper + Marksmen for something better for the team like Focus Target
>>521300715There isn't a "stigma" but people do complain. Some vet was whining about me running ahead instead of staying with the team recently
>>521300025do yourself a massive favor and swap the 10% tdr node for the 0.25 stam regen delay nodethe 10% tdr is unnoticable with iron will being a thing but the stam regen delay is absolutely massive and you will instantly notice the build feeling way better to playlike the other guy said, i know its a build for fun but this will make it way more fun to use, trust
>>521298559A ghost
>>521301712Fair enough for personal preference, except the graia,the graia mk7 has worse ammo economy, and worse maniac damage giving it a harder time clearing mutants and can't hit the same breakpoints as early making it much less reliable.
>>521300025>>521301712>>521302048Thanks Anons, I'm sticking with the lasgun and using your guys opinions, trying it out now.
>>521303061>I'm sticking with the lasgunNot in my aurics, you ain't
>>521303187imagine taking issue with someones weapon of choice for being an underperforming one in the baby mode difficulty, outing yourself super hard as a shitter right now
>>521301804And he was right. Stop that.
>>521303541You would shit yourself in baby mode
>>521302718>worse ammo economy>108+636 = 248 shots on lasgun>23+230 = 253 shots on vigilantSeems the same to me, neither weapon particularly struggles with ammo to begin with anywayWord up about the maniac modifier though, but aside from ragers beyond 24m what breakpoints can Kantrael hit that Graia can't? Keep in mind that Graia lets you swap out Marksman for Focus Target and gains>teamwide 36% boss damage>teamwide 12% damage mult>regular team roughness and stamina replenishment
>>521303783The "rushing ahead" was just me killing ranged elites in melee
Clicked on a Youtube video because of a funny thumbnail. This has got to be the worst UI I have ever seen!
>>521304602Tranner troonberg?
>>521304602no tanners is functionally worseyoure just seeing the shitty purple and thats honestly the only major shitty thing about that one (oh and the subtitle placement now that i see it)
>>521298483Nah, I'm not that worthless faggot.H1 spam is the only thing worthdoing with most ogryn weapons.
>>521305642oh actually now i recall the fact that you have have similar setups for your teammates too and can displays those like thisso you have 4x the amount of this shit too if you wanted to, and ive seen people who genuinely do
>>521304602This shit looks like fucking quake but not in a good way.
>>521305642And the dodges clipping with the peril.>>521305805They have an ultra-wide, probably curved, monitor. I'd put my HUD in the middle too.And I can see the appeal of an extreme FoV with a monitor that is curving around me.
>>521299935>tfw you want to learn to clutch games>skill level is around the point where I either never get downed and the mission goes perfectly or I'm hugging the floor like I'm digging for gold>also don't want to grief games to initiate a clutch moment because that is just a dick move to doIt's a pain sometimes
https://youtu.be/-EfBOHWeaSo?si=wYIS1plZlF_0Z2vYThey should have put it in the main game like chaos waste in vermintide
>>521300754>fucks off solo in a game about staying together
>>521309216>in a game about staying togetherIt's a game about killing big groups of enemies. The biggest groups of enemies are up ahead. You can fight and walk at the same time.
>>521309407Yeah if a zealot fucks off and ogryns keep chasing him like retards, I just stop caring and will not save you retards when you get fucked up by a searm of maulers and crushers
Is there a reliable way to quickly deal with the captains shields? I remember the chainsword rev up attack being good
>>521309407You idiots don't even understand why you are given high movespeed, it's to quickly rotate between front and rear because you're a melee fighter, not for fucking running awayAlso somehow the same retards who keep fucking off in darktide will refuse to split into pairs in helldivers, what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>521308265same as survivor,why adding it for free
this is why you need to suck up
>>521287573Late noght EU lobbies don't exist, you get thrown into lobbies with americans
I hate how darktide lags a lot when you're playing on wifi
300 reapers to go
Getting my ass beat in Havoc. The hexbound daemonhosts are genuinely the most annoying thing I've ever encounter.>Yes, I'm aware I'm announcing myself as a shitter.>Yes, I care.
>>521309216Darktide makes the players so powerful that there is legitimately zero reason why you should rely on a teammate at any point for any reason other than the unfortunate net through a wall, or similar freak occurrence.
>>521311447They're not that bad with microphones, pox gas still remains the auto-filter modifier
>>521311750Filter as in, filter it out?
>>521311536Go to a higher difficulty, chud
I've heard people here say that there's a sound when snipers spawn during the "extra snipers" modifier.I have never notices it personally.
>>521311536Buff enemies to be more powerful, problem solved.
>>521312035There's not many people joining havoc so I have to stay on baby mode auric damnation.
>>521312164Then don't act like a retard
>>521312164That is because havoc sucks
>>521311896We're talking about bad modifiers aren't we?
>>521312298Your skill issue is not my problem.
>>521312338Just making sure
>>521311750I'm mid rank on the Havoc roster or whatever, so no one wants to charge ahead to prevent them from spawning. It's annoying.
>>521312442use microphone
>>521312520They'll hear my squeaker virgin meme voice then...
>press F to cancel spawn grab>nothing happens>spawn throws me into daemonhostNah. I don't feel like playing today
What's up with game eating inputs when I use greatsword? I didn't notice this problem with one handed force sword, when I switched from blitz to melee and sppam clicks my char would start attacking right awayNow that I switched to greatsword it will continue spamming blitz like an idiot, eating the weapon swap input. Is it because of drawing speed, or does something else happen?
penetrating flames on the infernus staff is really good
>Come back after several years of not playing>ogryn still has no weaponslmfao.Fuck off.
>>521317658Nuh uh ogryn got 2 mediocre minecraft tools and a bad, half of pre-existing gun.That is more than enough!
>Havoc Oubliette >Just completed the spiral stair case defense>Get up the stairs, run across bridge>Captain appears, pops into existence in front of us>refractor field flexes us all of the bridge instantlyi'm not a violent man, but if I had one of those swiggers in front of me
>>521304602still haven't seen a modded ui that looks better than vanilla
>>521316235But is it better than crit + blaze away?>>521301176i think it's a huge improvement over the previous edition. People are supposed to build around the map and modifiers but most randoms don't give a shit.
>>521296362im memeing around with helbores, trench fighter kinda offsets the nerf, which kinda sucks for sniping since i have to branch over there, otherwise it plays basically like knife where you dodge dance around everything except now you can kill things and stagger too
>>521326692I feel it's better for the team utility and the easier application. I can spam one or two flames and it applies all the brittleness while blaze away is much more conditional
>>521326692>i think it's a huge improvement over the previous edition. People are supposed to build around the map and modifiers but most randoms don't give a shit.that's how i felt at first too, but playing it enough it sorta becomes apparent that losing or winning mostly comes down to wether the game spawns a really fucked chain of events or not. Sometimes it just spawns a whole level worths of elites and literally 5 bosses on a dropdown, plus a ritual. What the fuck can you even do? Then there's games that oddly feel easier than prepatch havoc, sometimes even the exact same mapPlanning is kind of out of the window
>>521332102it's mostly Ritual location RNG that bothers me. Those that are triggered through a wall and can't be dealt with because there are 99999999 crushers and bulwarks *blocks your path*
>>521310253https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/131?tab=description
>>521330429It still takes almost 20 seconds to burn a crusher with 20% brittleness. Or you can kill it in 4 seconds with a force greatsword and 0% brittleness. Seems like a waste of time. >blaze away is much more conditionaljust keep shooting lmao
>>521336894it weakens an entire wave boss included so your blunt associates can finish them off
>>521337064it's only useful vs carapace. And most players already have tools to fuck them up anyway, like dueling swords or knives.
>>521337423sure it isn't useful against bosses and captains???
Why do niggers in quickplay insist to stay around the demonhost?
>Got wiped by 4 trappers in MortisPretty embarrassing tbhdesu
>>521339762they've never been that close to a woman before
>>521339882that's not a woman
>>521340121except she is
>>521339831>wipe in Moresleep Trials
>>521322014how many more times is this going to happen to you before you realise you shouldn't be fighting bosses near ledges?
>>521340208No bewbs.
Pure assail build is fun in auric
>>521341713The daemon stole them.
>>521341173No shit.The boss teleported into existence about 5 feet away from us and instantly retractor field flexed us, instant death.Of course you don't fight bosses on ledges, walkways, gantrys.
would you rather join auric maelstrom with>3 with squares in their names>3 passniggers/consoleniggers>3 underleveled
>>521342692>auric maelstromwho caresgive me 3 underlevelled chinese console playersits fucking auric maelstorm
>>521337602Not to my knowledge. This site only mentions flak and carapacehttps://darktide.gameslantern.com/effects
>>521337602>>521345252Both rending and brittleness do work on unyielding enemies, but it isn't as effective.
>>521347047i'd love to know the real numbers
>>521343056This. If anything I might actually get some level of excitement from having to carry.
>>521347382I would like to know too, but I haven't seen any post anything about it.Only thing I do know is that both brit and rending work on unyielding.It's pretty easy to test. Just get a ripper gun and put can opener 4 on it.And then just go into the psykanium and stab a bulwark in the back.
I uninstalled about half a year before the release of that hardmode for Darktide.What have I missed out on?
>>521309957trvke just dropped>>521310467so don’t play on wifi
>>521312553Now I want to hear it. Share it with us.
>>521329362i abandoned it because i thought it was unusable post nerf but maybe i’ll give this a shot
>>521339762They probably don’t even know it’s there among all the commotion. Or at least that was the case with me in my early hours
>>521348971it is noticeably slower, but its lethality hasnt changed at all, so you just have to be a little more careful and mind which target youre stabbing to avoid damage, its still fast enough to juggle at least 3 maulers
It's so easy to hit around bulwark shields with the karsolas
https://youtu.be/NNv2RHR62Rs
i tried to play a small amount of killing floor 2, but it is just not good to me.
>>521312553HOT
>>521342161You can't steal boobies...
>>521353832>every gun lacks punch>talents are barely noticeable and require a lot of farming>every match feels samey with the upgrades>>521354776AHEM
>>521354776Explain this.
>>521354776One of Solzhenitsyn's horror stories from the soviet famines suggest otherwise
>>521354952cringe>>521355015based
>>521355064"Oh look at me I'm fancy and cultured I went to school mimimimi" SHUT THE FUCK UP nerd U'll die a fuckin virgin
>>521355436Fuck you, rat
How good is Thunderous on the zealot power maul?It's 4 stacks of 2.5% brittleness on hit.
>>521357126Not good. It already has good carapace and flak damage
>>521355064>Soviet famine In that case it doesn’t even sound outlandish. Par for the course even.
>>521358028bet the chink famines had worse story,no one is as wicked as a cornered bug
>>521356296Your kind is not welcome here.
>>521358812This is a thread for people who kill thousands of rats. Cats fit right in
Just played a havoc game. 3rd one this season.Taking 1 step into a new area>2 hexbound daemonhost healthbars appear on my hud, one of them is already ticking fast>2 lieutenants on our ass>the sounds of a wave of specialists>5 seconds later, 2 Beasts of Nurgle (weakened)Never have I seen a game end so fast. This was only havoc 21.
>>521357740Damn, I was just wondering because it'd be kinda neat if the thunderous has the funny interaction with the power activation where you apply 8 stacks at once.Iirc one anon here noted that is how it worked with the skullcrusher blessing.
>>521362210>He's stuck in the 20slollmao even
I won't play Havoc, looks like a rat race!
https://www.twitch.tv/fatsharkgamesthey're actually playing Havoc 40, apologize.
>>521364984aaaaaand they got an error 2014 KEK
>>521364984First time too.They got every achievement after that run.
>>521366345the guy got carried by sweatlords
*Removed an overlong paragraph that was not needed*(This is the first post I actually made, please overlook me posting an extremely dry, boringly detailed post my first time
>>521368059Wish some of you chatgpt sounding ahh niggas would think the same way
>>521368243>ahhWhat the fuck does this mean, nigger?
>>521358183True, very true
>>521359282based CATTERGOD>>521365696when the scorpion is stung by its own stinger…
>>521370261It’s ebonics for “ass”
>>521371681Goofy ahh language for real
>WRECKING CREEEW
Im finally free
Goin' through a thang, but I gotta snap back!Give it all to God, it's the pistol, put the crack back!
>>521354952Oh, so this is the original. Sometimes I forget this series had sovl once
>>521379483God you're so fucking gay
>>521380737*slaps your ass*
>>521381169*wiggle*
dead
not alive
I can't make a cute tomboy in darktide and that's a crime.
>>521337602Captains are flak armored, no idea about their force field's armor type though(its own thing perhaps?).
>>521387039Tooner
>>521390493Yes I masturbate over drawings, so what?
>>521390369It is its own armour type. "Void Shield"Anyone know if you can spawn them with the Creature Spawner mod to test DPS?
What's good against void shields?
>>521394796The main thing is to melee them, because the innate damage modifiers mean you do 6 times as much damage that way(3X modifier for melee, 0.5X for ranged)
>>521390904So true >>521394796She cute
>>521394796Me, I FUCK them
SAH, PERMISSION TO RAPE THE PSYKER, SAH
>>521398912awkward
>>521400490kys
>>521398912he wouldn’t say permission
>>521400643what would he say
>>521401007>>521400545
SNIVELLERS
The game runs at 50-60 fps on high on all my gpus and the only way to get it to lower is to go into Nvidias panel and turn down ray tracing and ambient occlusion.
>>521387039canonically, all the pretty women were diverted by powerful people for their own purposes
>>521403875I don't care, nerd.
>>521404776they should add a minigame where if you make a woman that's too hot, you gotta suck and fuck your way out of a penthouse prison before you can play normally
>>521403451Disable portrait rendering, this shit eats like 10 fps
>>521404951I will now play Darktide.
>>521404951Locked behind Havoc 40
I swear to god some people are playing with metal or some nigger music blasting their ears because they can't hear fucking shit jumping on them
>>521406101i dont need to hear thats why you are there cuck to get the shit off me :))
>>521406101The audio engine craps out constantly in this game. Normally you get audio cues about everything around you, then sometimes some enemy types are completely silent. And it just doesn't work out in a 1st person game like this.
>>521406502Actually, I let these people die.
>>521407495Sure you do kiddo
>>521408000The Trips!As prophetized!
whats the next good coop slop thats coming out?
>>521410801Tallarn
>>521411516>ammo? what's that? I have a staff>*psychically sends gay thoughts into your head*>you are gay now
>>521412426omg I'm gay now, I want to play psyker!
I checked the forums for 5 minutes because I thought maybe they got insight on the dev cycles, click on a random thread and there's people talking to eachother with AI I didn't think about the consequences AI would have for discussion forums, crazy
What's the best explosive in the game? I'm thinking the Ogryn frag grenade. You only get one at a time for a reason.
>>521413116*blocks your explosion*
>>521410801Killing Floor 3 or DRG: Rogue Corealso Abiotic Factor is hitting 1.0 soonish
>>521413116That’s a weird piece of trivia. I wonder why that is>>521415078Skill issue
>just started playing DT again>everyone so far just zooms through the maps and ignores plasteelbros i need that plasteel...
>>521413116For my money, and hopefully this doesn’t start shit, shredders. Ogryn frag can clutch a dogshit situation, but shredders applied early and often, since you get so fucking many of them, keep those situations from happening
darktidebros what is the ripper gun dump stat and best blessings?
>>5214203202 shredders kill more than an ogryn nuke and you can get the range to be on par with the nuke (bigger if you use bolt pistol with a blessing)its inherently superior cause the bleed stacks are not beholden to damage falloff with the explosion radius, too, and the nature of bleed lets it capitalize on uncanny strike
>>521421518Collateral. Depends on if you’re LOOOGING or general purpose
>>521424249sorry i dont know what is looging. Im using the mk 2 ripper for the automatic alt fire mode I like it better than the others.
retard here which enemies are Carapace and which are Flak?
>>521427243Are you using point blank barrage or another keystone?
>>521427405meatgrinder is your friend
>>521427441I have only 2 builds with indomitable and another with taunt. havent tried barrage yet.
>>521427797Then you probably want to go full damage. Fire frenzy and blaze away. There are some good flavor picks but regardless of what I say test things out and see what really works for you
>>521413116upgraded shredders with the +1 node
>>521427405Carapace is crushers, bulwark and reaper armor pieces, mauler helmet and scab rager below the head
The fact that shovels now stay folded after switching weapons is fucking annoying
>>521420320Shredders are known to be Vet's best nade, you're not gonna start shit. Kraks are useless in high level play because everyone can kill Crushers faster than a Krak can explode, and you only get 2 of them, 3 if you over-invest. Shredders stagger, apply bleed and puts most chaff into one-shot territory, while you get 3 to 4.
>>521431428Uhhh… what faction does she belong to…
>>521440192house escher
>>521311227you'll make it, i believe in you anon
live
>ogrynomiconWhy are they highlighting such a terrible guide.
>>521454097what the fuck am looking at
>>521456113shitty build fatshart is trying to push on people who dont know any better
>>521456720it literally says NOT A BUILD... it's just highlighting the archetype in that section of the tree
>>521454097>>521456720>this is not a buildAlthough, the utility of just reading out the nodes on the skilltree is questionable.
>>521371194the cultural revolution was also a mad house because Mao didn't want to be housted. Guess the good ones literally got eaten
>>521412426is that the fat captain kirk???
>>521458142so what's the fucking point?
>>521454097>>521456720Lol @ this illiterate retard
>>521421518dump ammo to 19 (I think 66% maximum) so your blaze away procs twice as often
>>521421518you can also abuse some math and go for a 66% ammo ripper to boost some of the blessings that are based off ammo % used
>>521429869were scab rager bodies always carapace? I could have sworn they used to be flak
>>521458142>>521456959Ok hank we know you lurk here
>>521460475Sah it's my turn for the braincell today sah
>>521460681also works with inspiring barrage btw which straight up doubles how much toughness you get
>casual friend wants to try new ogryn>asks if the bully club is good>tell him the mk3's great, send him a build, joke you can "slap crushers to death">plays a few rounds with it>says it's good but he doesn't like playing joke builds>complains the slap hitbox is short and doesn't deal with hordes well but it's fun to smack ragers around>watch him next game>he seriously just slaps 90% of the level>don't have the heart to ask him what the fuckI think ogryn is the perfect class for him.
>>521460836slapping is fun tho
>>521460732you're correct, i'm this >>521460487 anon, just thought it was hilarious we both posted the same advice within 11 seconds of each other
>>521460569They used to be flak
today I learned that the shadow CW champion is voiced by the ogryn bully VA. They really are thin on actors lmao
Got roped into a Havoc 40 and holy fuck does it show that my build was dog water. I require assistance, namely in understanding what exactly Vet is supposed to do. Killing shotgunners and gunners was done seamlessly by an Ogryn and Zealot. Killing specialists was done by Ogryn and Zealot. Anything else was done by the Psyker including Horde clearing. What is the Vet's purpose in a team and how do I actually be useful? Posting a reply to this one with my current weapons.>Still can't make multi-image posts on 4chan in the year 202X
>>521461680LOL
>>521461680>Weapons
>>521461786LMAO
>>521461680>>521461786yeah if you're gonna do havoc 40 it's time to stop having fun and run 100% metashit
>>521461920I don't know what the meta is. I'm returning after almost a year of not playing. I'm assuming dueling sword is meta since everyone who wasn't an Ogryn was using one. That shit was retardedly strong.
>>521461680you need to take iron resolve or whatever the hell the shield talent on the left of demo team is called. Remove the two top left talents and charismatic. Go full purple nod at the end.>>521461786chainsword is dogshit and if you use a lasgun you need shocktrooper for the free ammo crit
>>521462052something like this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ea81d91-4930-4785-94b2-b5870a120646not sure which recon lasgun is the good oneyeah ds4 is fucking retarded
>>521461680>>521462052Here is a meta version of a Focus Target Build. The yellow lines are alternative paths you could choose based on preference. This has 1 point left over, place it in one of the yellow circles, based on preference. The Duelling Sword is the meta melee weapon. For DS on Veteran, it must have Uncanny Strike blessing. Recon Lasgun is good, The MkXII is the best one because it shoots faster. Which means you trigger your blessings faster. It's strong against everything except carapace armour.
>>521462161Sucks that the chainsword is bad, I really like using it.>>521462182Thanks for the build anon, did rending really become that useless since the last year? I remember it was worth it to pretty much ignore the bottom keystones just to get a lot of the rending traits a year ago.>>521462538I appreciate it a lot. I went ahead and threw my free talent into the "First 20% ammo after a reload has 10% crit" since it seems this build crit-fishes a lot. The MkXII seemed bad to me because of such tiny damage numbers, but I'll trust you on it.
>>521462182Mk VIc is the balanced oneMk XII has the most ammo, least damage per shot but highest rate of fire so it can apply Infernus or Onslaught stacks very fastMk XIV is like the Agripinaa series of infantry/braced autogun with highest damage per shot/slowest rof and some overpenetration on human mobsGenerally people pick the Mk XII with Infernus to help deal with bosses and the generous reserve ammo means you can spray through trashmobs blocking elites.
>>521461680The Vet's purpose?>Survivalist, the best aura in the game>spam Voice of Command on cooldown>kill all groups of enemies with Shredder Grenades>kill all priority targets with Plasma Gun/Recon Lasgun/Bolt Pistol>>521462891If you use a weapon that is already good against armour, such as the Duelling Sword, rednding does almost nothing. For the DS, 10% rending will increase your damage against a crusher by about 2%.But that same 10% rending will increase your bleed damage against a crusher by ~25%.Your Shredder Grenades benefit from rending greatly, but you have access to a much more powerful source than the Rending Strikes node, Uncanny Strike.It's pretty tedious, but you can stack it quickly with light attacks, then quickly throw a grenade, then switch back to swinging. On Damnation, you can kill a pack of Crushers with 2 grenades. The Rending Strikes node used to give 20% rending, and the Veteran didn't have access to the Duelling Sword. Under those conditions, you would always take Rending Strikes. Not so now.
>>521421518What are you using it for? I usually put can opener on it just so I don't need a source for rending/brittleness from talents or melee weapon blessings. 16 stacks with a single stab any time and as often as you want is hard to beat.
Why bother asking to join my H37 with a weapon looking like this.
>>521462538Confirmed kill is the single best survivability perk veteran has. You are smoking crack if you think weapon swap speed is better.
>>521463721>On Damnation, you can kill a pack of Crushers with 2 grenades.I must be doing something wrong because my shredders only damage a crusher to half health with a full stack of uncanny kept up and grenade tinkerer in the psykhanium
>start havoc>get to the first group of enemies>half the team sharts and DCs >redeem free lossThanks fartshart very cool
haven't played since decemberdid i miss anything or did it snow really bad again?
>>521466645bugwise it's fine but there's still a few dc. Their servers are really capricious with internet's hickups, but alas it is the price to pay for the much requested hub where you can admire the finest silk bought by pigs
Any lobby posters? I'm good (probably).
>>521467213its up
>>521467627I'm in (probably)
>>521467213PMed you the code
Why is no one talking about Rogue Core?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAxU_A1s8YU&t=128s
>>521468798You know how at the end of VT2 or DT people will hang out to farm green circles because the combat is engaging? Notice how no one really does that in DRG? That's why.
retvrn.
unga bunga venting post, nothing to see here>h39>doing really well>reach drop-down point>clear all enemies>nothing to the left>nothing to the right>nothing in front>nothing behind>jump down>sound of a horde>one guy goes "dude why you jump down!?" in broken englishoh I don't know, maybe because it's literally the only thing left to do.>3 teammates stay on the ledge and proceed to eat shit while I watch>wipe>get all the blameIt's just a video game. I don't heff to be mad. But I am. Very much so. What in Gods name is it that prevents people from dropping down from a ledge once the coast is clear? And I mean clear as a blue sky. There is nothing left to do. It takes one second to jump down and then we move on. The floor isn't lava. To say that it's all so tiresome would be an understatement.
>>521469689Convince me. I did everything there ever was to do and then some.
Can someone explain what havoc is. I know people are saying it's like weaves from ratlick but i've never played weaves.
>>521471245It's nothing really like weaves. They're normal games but with basically a Damnation++ difficulty scaling between +1 and +40, where the rank you're able to create games at goes up by one for every success and down by one if you lose three in a row. The reward is mostly for titles
>>521471245a limited pool of the maps (lmao) with exclusive modifiers like ennemies gaining defence when one dies next to them, also you got reduced base HP and toughness
>>521469621Killing things isn't the goal of Deep Rock. Its finishing the mission. Killing is a means to an end in that game.
>>521471407>>521471415Gotcha. And they also added a roguelike mode similar to chaos waste right?
>>521471906hahaha everyone wanted to be chaos waste but the CM cunt said it wasn't (would require work). It's more akin to COD zombie where it's a small map with waves and sometimes mini objectives and every waves you gain bonuses. problem: it's short and too easy
>>521461680i know some anons will shit in my mouth for this but I'd prefer if you brought kraks with focus target to focus down monstrosities. You said it yourself, horde clear is done by the Pskyer, elites are handled by ogryn/zealot with Chorus +Taunt + Voice, all with low cooldowns thanks to psykinetics aura. Shredders are good but their role is often already filled, so they can become superfluous. Having more damage vs monstrosities is guaranteed to be useful. Especially since the game often spawns 2-3 bosses at the same time. Dumping 3 kraks in the face of a gold-marked Spawn is good for everyone. If you specifically go for shredders with uncanny vs crusher conga lines and you pull that off consistently, then sure, stay on shredders. But I see a lot of vets throwing shredders here and there for no particular reason vs enemies that are not threatening at all. So if you don't have a specific plan for those shredders, go krak.
>>521473174*shits in your mouth*
>>521471245Extra hard difficulty mode. That's all.
>>521473216*swallows*what now, shitter?
>>521473419Uh... nothing
>>521473458then have a nice day
any EU havoc?
>>521473174Vet has nade regen, you need two to pull wreck crusher/bulwark conga lines with uncanny.That leaves you with one you can use for whatever.
>>521473174Kark is too single target
>>521474470its up
>>521476571where
>>521477213Truly, all the faggots in these threads that talk shit day and night are scared shitless of posting a lobby. I know for a fact cuz I've done it with then that the people here are more than capable of clearing Auirc Maelstrom, clearing Havo 40, but they're sacred to death of being "That 4chan guy" their faggot-ass friends judge them on. I spit on them *ptoo*
its up browe're waiting for you
Haven't played since decemberDid they finally buff the ranged options? Namely autoguns, shotguns and especially the double barrelI really want a decent shotgun but the game never provided that
>>521479607>I really want a decent shotgun but the game never provided thatbro your kickback?
>>521479632If we want to be technical, that's a 40mm grenade launcher But I don't care for ogryn
>>521479747in that case, the guns you mentioned are the same as in december
>>521479875Lame. I will bomb Sweden.
>>521475248most teams I've run into have more aoe than they know what to do with
>>521480020Get in line, lmao. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombings_in_Sweden
>>521462920I kept using the slow one but had mixed results, switched to the XII and it's night and day. Loving it thanks for the tip
>>521479607The weapons you mentioned all work serviceably and some of them can even be used for gimmicks.Zarona combat shotgun is still one of my favorite gimmick guns to run with it's horizontal line spread ammo, slap manstopper and scattershot on it with ranged weakspot focused vet and watch a entire horde get their head removed on a crit.
>4 months since Zealot and Psygger got their new toys (and they assured us something else was coming)>Ogryn rework just happened>mfw Vet mainH-Haha Vetbros it sure feels g-good being the main character, am I right?
>>521486684Shut the fuck up, you ungrateful piece of shit
>>521487202Haha you right.*shouts* SORRY!
>>521486684When fatshark CM says "vets aren't being left out for long."It's just corporate speak for "veterans will be getting new toys to play with whenever we feel like releasing them."
uuuuuuuPatches.uuuuuuu
>>521466932SoTrue>>521469621That makes sense…>>521470843This has been a thing since L4D days, something about a ledge that makes people very jittery because they have it ingrained in their mind something bad will happen and they need to take a second to process if they want to do it even if it’s the only thing, even now I admit it kind of grips me too just out of subconscious wariness but it’s only for a second and I wouldn’t stay there obviously
>>521252732Are we excited for Den of Wolves bros?https://youtu.be/gJx4o02-8xM?si=Dy3N_-wXkuc6zJWq
>>521480374>In 2019, Denmark, worried about the bombings in Sweden, introduced passport controls on its border checkpoints with Sweden for the first time since the 1950s.[12] In September 2019, police in Malmö issued a general warning to be vigilant for explosive devices when walking the city at night.Lovely place. Who doesn’t love a bomb or two when going out for a nice night time stroll
>>521489510>made by the devs behind GTFOdid that shit ever leave EA?
>>521486684Hellguns, long-las, plasma pistol, melta gun, inferno pistol soon.
>OMG OGRYN IS HECKIN OP NOW WTF BROS>melee pickaxe plays exactly the same>knoife is now just okay against armor>gunlooger still has a stupid retarded shitty and busted keystoneYou are fucking absolutely retarded if you fell for the propaganda.
>>521387039CUTE
>>521493256lmao, anon doesn't know.
>>521493256he's back to being unkillable like at launch
>>521493256Lol lil bro struggling with the OP af ogryn
>>521479607Mk V Autogun is still popular, though not many people use the other marksShotguns are usable in most non-tryhard content but they mostly need more ammo and damage; they're barely more ammo efficient than other point and click special delete buttons like the revolver or bolt pistol, yet they need more ammo to deal with specials and can't deal with armor.
>>521494079>>521495416>>521496175>t. retarded sheeple who never played Ogryn before or after this updateDo not respond to me until you have about 2000 hours in this game, thanks.
>>521496641Ogryn and Psyker were my mains before he got too many caveats against playing him
My ogryn just talked on the Mourningstar, since when was this a thing?It was a quip about rations being cut.
>>521496641Great. It's the light attack bitch being desperate for attention again
Only 200 reapers to go
>>521499837"AH GRUT ME"
>>521499906I don't care about whatever retarded faggot drama you have living in your head rent-free. I'm right and you're stupid if you disagree with me, simple as.
>>521499837Happened to me recently, too.But I remember hearing other ogryn saying the quip on Mourningstar radio before quite some time ago.
>>521500865YAAAAWNToo obvious, too retarded, too boring
Who's the retard?The retard, or the guy who keeps arguing with him?
>>521491774Gimme the hotshot, Fatshark. I won't even care if it's shit.
>>521454097>Why are they highlighting such a terrible guideBecause they don't have jack shit else to put in community highlights, and it's good enough for 99% of the mouthbreathers you'll encounter ingame.
>>521503230Both?>>521505332Yea, you would
>>521252732So what’s the deal with these things? What’s their gimmick? Are they good with tech or something? In the last few years of my lore perusing I don’t think I’ve ever heard them mentioned in any real capacity
>>521509910>Both?You know that is not the answer.
>>521510176Most abhumans that aren't ogryn, ratlings and squa- I mean Votann(tm) don't get much exposure. I assume the OC is supposed to be a nightsider, which is an abhuman species that lives underground because their surface is uninhabitable, thus they mutated heavily to adapt to the dark like bats, so the resemblance to bats.
>>521510176It's a nightsider, we know nothing about them besides for the fact that they are very well adapted to live in the dark.
>>521510176They make sick music
>go to drifter's camp to pick up a mod>buy mod>return to orbiter by hitting pause and clicking the bottom thing, as is standard for literally every other hub in the game>oh wait, that doesn't return to orbiter, it exits the game teeheei have made this mistake dozens of times in the past and will likely make it many more times in the future
I'm tired of throwing knives on zealot.
How do I play psyker and not get killed in 2 hits from basic enemies
>>521530245You play Ogryn instead
>>521252732Voice of the Void crossover looks good
>>521530245Take all soulblaze nodes you can, including the one that gives you toughness+crit chance from soulblaze kills. Also the node that gives you toughness from crits, the crit aura, and generally just make a build based on crits+soulblaze. It's ridiculous how much toughness regen you can get that way.
How do you fix the Helbore?
>>521531664Just give it a good sight. Fuck why is it so bad. Maybe a faster charging mark too, if you have to wait a whole second to charge a shot it's really too slow for the fast paced gameplay of darktide.
>>521531664Faster swap speed, slightly better hipfire, better sight (just add functional weapon customization that isn't a memory leaking mod), it's in a much better state than infantry lasguns which basically suck at everything tougher than gunners and shotgunners.
>>521526941Fix your taste
>>521530701I think about it every time i'm playing with my friend and he sits there and brainlessly plows through auric with a latrine shovel taking 0 damage>>521531058trying it out, just wish psyker had a panic button blitzventing shriek gets you like 50 toughness or w/e but its never enough
>>521530245have you tried dodging
>>521535179Psyker DOES have a panic button, that's the dome shield. It gives you toughness regeneration AND immunity to ranged attacks all at once. And it gives the shield to teammates too.
>>521540940but muh shriek...
How does havoc work?I played it once with a friend, it set the game to like difficulty 3 and nobody joined and we never touched it again.
>>521535179Shriek doesn't give any toughness, only dumping peril to save you if you self-destructed. Scriers gaze does the same now.>>521540940Dome isn't a panic button unless sliding is. Panic buttons interrupt melee combat to save your ass from getting crushered on negative dodges, often along with an instant heal. Shriek only staggers, dome heals slowly and pauses ranged combat. Zealots get 3 ults that temporarily put them in god mode. Vet and ogryn do the same with 2. Psyker simply requires a much better grasp of the fundamentals to not die instead of hitting F to reset bad situations.
>>521531058Soulblaze is shit thoughYou can take the nodes that are close to your path (except wildfire, it's unsalvageable garbage), but going out of your way to take them is stupidSoulblaze kills are very rare. It's a good node but you never have enough talent points to take it. I would only go after it in inferno staff builds (but they are too hard to play and honestly underwhelming, it takes too much skill to stay alive for no gain, plus zero support for your team) and maybe gunpsykers (because it's going to be close to your path)>>521530245I will assume smite build cause that's metaDodge a lot, psykers have very fast dodge recharge. When you hold smite, learn to position with dodge. Always prioritize what's best for your team (and you), if you see a horde of ragers, maulers, crashers, etc, don't have second thoughts about killing them, keep uptime of your smite as high as you can, and avoid attacks by dodging. If you get targeted, eventually smite will switch to the closest enemy you look at and stunlock them.It will be very easy for your team to deal with anything if it's stunlocked.For primary I recommend a blaze force GS with deflector and momentum blessings. Deflector will help you when gunners catch you in the open (relocate with dodge, as usual). You need "kinetic deflection" node to make deflector work, otherwise your stamina will be drained very quickly. And momentum will upkeep your toughness if you wish to fight a horde of basic enemies in melee (you do that for fun or to earn empowered psyonics charges for your blitz, because killing shit with blitz isn't always possible with teammates around).Meta is blaze force sword, not greatsword, but presonally I like GS more. It has big cleave and feels nice. Regular sword can pierce armor with charged stab unlike GS, but you shouldn't really be doing it as a psyker.For secondary I recommend a recon laser or electrokinetic staff. But if you take GS primary, go staff (staff can deal with carapace)
>>521534167>that isn't a memory leaking modon that note, how do I find out which mod leaks memory?
>>521544460on zealot I fall asleep while waiting for my dodges to recover
>>521454097what's a good guide then
>>521549395Wouldn't you like to know :))
Question: does anyone give a shit about darktide lore?Like, do people not find the 80 thousands different people speaking in your ear annoying?Sefoni locking you in a room so you can have your epic lore dump is the shittiest thing
>>521551198I like it. They made it for me
>>521469621>has more players then vt2 and fartideLmao
>>521551198I like it.
>>521551198yeah I quite enjoy the story, I wish they would stop doing any lore dumps externally though and add the vox transmissions they already released into the game somewhere
>>521551198I genuinely don't care about anyone in the Darktide character roster outside of my own character. I want to know why we're some super soldier freaks on this ship but treated like random convicts still. When we're doing suicide missions and winning 24/7, to the point we hear the enemy comms freaking the fuck out in some missions as they lose control of the situation because our 4 man army is killing our way through 20 Plague Ogryns, Chaos Spawn, and Beasts of Nurgle. The last thing we need to do is kill a Chaos Space Marine at this point before we're the ultimate randoms.
>>521547192>all that drivel about soulblaze and purg staffThe psyker is the primary source of damage in havoc 40. The rest of the team exists to allow the psyker to win the game.>the rest of the postOh you're just trolling him. Carry on then.
>>521553157You don't understand, you aren't fighting the best the Archenemy can muster. You're fighting 4th-rate leaders of a lethargic rebellion on a slightly useful world. We don't have names because we're just the help cleaning up the garbage. The real characters are off playing a different game.
>>521547493You find out when you crash every 2 or 3 games.
>>521553753for me it takes a really long time, though I know for a fact that my game is leaking memoryand I have too many mods installed to check them one by one
>>521553157>>521553740We're the early game, no name agents in total war that somehow survived till late game.
>>521553740>>521554239But I'm literally killing demons. With just 3 other chuds with me. Something that you need specialized units for to be able to do in any book and tabletop game. >:(
>>521555391ROCK YOU
>>521555507ACK!
>>521554239It's not endgame, we are quelling rebellions at home while real heroes fight chaos gods
>>521555391Yeah. You're fighting the bare minimum that the forces of Chaos can spare so that they can concentrate on battles that matter. A couple of demons now and then is chaff.
Is new hub hotkeys broken or some shit? It keeps giving me “ID # skipped” errors but I didn’t do anything different
>>521558465why are you asking here and not on the mod webpage
>>521556736I AM a real hero, they said so on the loudspeaker.
as a door wielding ogryn, how do you deal with a bunch of ragers?
>>521559362taunt hold block and let your team take care of them
>>521559362Is this a joke? Just spam heavy attacks on them
>>521558465I think the author fucked up the folder name if i remember right, it's something like hub_hotkeys_main? remove the "main" also make sure it's not in too many nested folders, it may have an extra sub folder that it doesn't need
>bardin player>is the biggest shitter youve ever seen before in your life
>>521559629>spam heavy attacks on them>diewhat now
>>521560404Don't be shit
>>521559785That was the first thing I tried. It went from “Id 6 skipped” to “id 5 skipped”
>>521559785>>521560937Nevermind I’m retarded. Fixed
>>521560720So don't spam heavy attacks?
>>521561379HilariousKill yourself, Light attack retard
>>521560051i can't deny this, even as a bardin enjoyerthey're like kerillian mains but without the bad attitude
why can't I have Rannick's outfit?
>>521562969Because he'd be naked???
>>521562969Literally who?
>>521563174kek
>>521563174
>>521559362punch them in the face with your giant door>>521560404dodge
Soon...
>que for random mission>join>team is already on the victory screenI will take the free rewards thanks
>>521562969You don’t need it.
>>521568213You don't know that.
50 snortis trials finally done. Never touching that shit again.
>>52156859519 to go. Give me strength emperor
>>521568784Stay strong brother.
>>521553157(You) aren't a random convict after making it to 30. But there's a ton of other cannon fodder that hasn't proven themselves to Rannick the way you have, so when Brahm is screeching about she'll void the section of the ship because someone took a piss somewhere she heard about she's generalizing.
>>521563174Not my problem
>>521551198At the end of the day, if this game wasn’t Warhammer themed and an attempt at bringing the setting to life it probably wouldn’t have caught my attention, yeah it’s nothing special but I still enjoy whatever I can get that isn’t RTSlop>>521553157If you want get literal with it, we know that we aren’t actually “winning 24/7”, we have multiple lines of dialogue that do mention we’re still short of manpower and that the current rate of attrition is unacceptable or whatever, so we’re not all unstoppable and you can probably count every game you lose as being intended to be among that lot, besides that you kind of have to disconnect gameplay from lore at some point.>>521553740Atoma Prime is a “vital stronghold of the Imperial power” as Grendyl puts it, so it’s clear it’s not that insignificant, he/everyone else are likely just trapped for resources>>521555391Not quite. The strength of daemons vary greatly by their vary nature and the way the Warp works. Sometimes you get daemons that are massively boosted in strength because their patron god gained a new foothold in reality or soemthing and you get daemons that can overrun entire planets and then you get some that are pretty lathectically weak. Where DT daemons (we haven’t actually fought any daemons mind you, Beasts of Nurgle are daemonic beasts that amount to essentially wild animals and Plague Ogryns are just corrupted Ogryns) is kind of hard to say because again, video game.
>>521569228>the current rate of attrition is unacceptableThink of all the shitters you aren't there to carry.
>>521544460>Shriek doesn't give any toughnessUnless you pick the subnode that puts soulblaze on enemies, the node that gives toughness on soulblaze kills, node that gives toughness on quelling. Shriek isn't bad unless you suck at the game.
>>521569228Daemons follow the inverse ninja law and according to my last havoc game, beasts of nurgle are all over the place.
Lvl 5000+ ogryn spotted
New player question, I saw that there are going to be 3 more major content patches for the year for Darktide. What's the differences between major and minor? Guessing minor is bug fixing and major is new content and reworks?
>>521571745major is whatever lets them technically fulfill their promise of four major patches this year
>>521563174I already liked the idea of getting Rannick's outfityou don't have to convince me further
>>521571745>What's the differences between major and minor?what's the difference between a tomato and a tomato
>>521572252>>521572398Alright so it's completely arbitrary and in the event that they have delays, they'll probably roll out whatever they can, slap the major title on it, and congratulate themselves. I'll try not to get my hopes up too much then
>>521571695was he ass?
>>521575697He left a second after the screenshot
>have contract to pic up grimoires/scriptures>either never get a grimoire mission or when I do the team just wants to speedrun>have any other type of contract>several full grimoire collects in a single sitting
>>521573180Yep, that sums up the Fatshark approach to things. This isn't to say that they don't ever put out huge updates, of course, and over time their games do become excellent, but they move at a truly glacial pace and have a tendency to forget every single lesson they learn over the course of a game's life when the time comes for them to release a new game.
What the fuck did they do to the butcher moveset
>>521581171buffed it
>>521581171Boofed it
>>521581171poofed it
>>521581171Goofed it
100 reapers to go
>>521581171woofed it
>>521586717Where the fuck do you find them, I still got ~400 to go after 1.2k hours
>>521551198>>521553157Reject retardation ruined premise of this game. Anything to do with story and characters in this game is utterly nonsensical and wrong. Another massive step down from ratgame
>>521587337Best is mostly ranged maelstrom, but that rarely shows up
>>521587337>1.2k hoursin total or since the penance update which started tracking reaper kills?
>>521581171Toofed it
>>521587337Either Scab faction only Maelstroms or grinding Snoretis Trials in hopes a wave of them show up.
>>521551198I like design of the moebians and headcanon the shotgunners are iron warriors trained meaning suppression ain't shit for them. Morrow is cool, same for Hadron and KX8. the rest are cancer to my ears
>>521560404>>521559362This is the build I've used a hundred times.You knock ragers to the ground on havoc 40 by just spamming heavy attacks.
>>521589227>not taking free 12.5% attack speed
>>521581171They gave it a light stab after push attack. Which is a nice buff to it's single target damage, but still anaemic against Caraace.If you mean how the 3rd light is a vanguard with an almost vertical sweep pattern, yeah they made that change about 1.5 years ago. I kind of hate using the weapon because of that. That was the same patch where they changed the Mk4's 3rd light attack to be a vanguard with a horizontal swing. And from then it became my favourite moveset in the game. Although I never used it because it was bad before the skilltree changes.
>>521587798Oh, right, the count wasn't retroactive. Slipped my mind.
After extensive testing (a couple of games each) I have come to the conclusion that the clubs and knives are only viable as variety picks for fun. Pickaxes and shield still reign supreme.
>>521589963yes but they are now good enough for havoc
>>521589637Not so simple. At max stacks, it only increases the rate at which you can throw heavy attacks by about 6.5%.And you don't spend all your time at max stacks. Therefore, I judge it to be lower value than any of the other offensive nodes I chose. >>521589963Mk4 Cleaver is obviously a top tier weapon.Probably the Mk3b Club too.
Would you rather have a vet teammate with plasma or boltgun? And with frags or kraks?
>>521590554Plasma, ShreddersIt's not even close.
>>521553740I swear to god more people need to take this mindset when playing Darktide. Too many people overestimate how strong the Rejects are or how kinda shit the Mobians are due to the gameplay/lore split
>>521591068>Too many people overestimate how strong the Rejects areMy rejects have a better k/d ratio than the USAF post-ww2.
>>521591068Funny how the Moebian 6th managed to fight the local loyalists to a stalemate, until a bunch of convicts completely shat up their operations that their cult allies are considering cutting ties with them.
>>521569228Hell we haven't even fought any Daemon Engines or even just regular tanks. God help us if Plaguebearers or the really weird daemon beasts start showing up in mass>Entire squad gets wiped out by plague drones and rot/battle flies because nobody is used to fighting flying enemies
the more I play havoc and the more I feel like investing a lot on toughness regen is a trap, DR seems to be much much more productive
>>521591514Cool, but there are plenty more that are utter fodder
>>521590554Plasma and shredders, or bolter and shredders.
>>521592329The two things are not mutually exclusive
>pox gas + extra bombers>encroaching garden (healing enemies)>heinous rituals>the twins show uphow do I deal with this
>>521595281Git GUDKite backwards if you have to. Take out priority targets.
>>521595281You don't.There's a reason why nobody plays pox gas shit on havoc.It's pure cancer.
>>521595438they were waiting for us after the elevator in the torrent (upload false intel into a cogitator array) and so was a beast of nurgle while a daemonhost ritual happened on the other side of the bridge
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs...
>>521595281>how do I deal with thisEasy>see pox gas>DECLINE
>>521595849You have to depend on your team then. If one person sucks you wont win.
stop joining my havocs if you're gonna crash every 3 minutes
>>521598441how am i supposed to test if i'm gonna crash other than by joining your havocs though
>>521598546idk, play a few non-havoc games first?
havoc sucks and damnation is too easyat least when they made weaves they also made cataclysm so you didnt have to play the game minigame gamemode to not be bored
>>521598293
>>521599280I like havoc but I can't stand this demotion crap. Just let me play what I want man. What is wrong with fat shark.
>>521590554kraks and bolter so theres more for me to kill but he destroys bosses which I dont like fighting
>>521599280This is the exact issue with havoc. It's also the reason why rest of the game feels piss easy now, because everything is balanced around havoc, evidenced by the ogryn rework.Meaning all of the problematic shit that makes this game retardedly easy is never going to be addressed at all. It's just going to be buffs upon buffs with minor "nerfs" which don't effect anything at all.I just want a difficult, but FAIR gamemode. Aka the game is difficult with strong enemies, but doesn't arbitrarely nerf my health, toughness and ammo for bullshit artificial difficulty.
>>521598293>You have to depend on your team then. If one person sucks you wont win.I climbed three ranks to 30 today with a level 60-14 stealth veteran using recon lasgun, and a ilvl 340 chainsword with>T1 sprint efficiency>T2 maniac>T1 Rev it Up>T2 Rampagewho was only tied for the most downs and deaths
>>521598772but how will i know
>>521599584>It's also the reason why rest of the game feels piss easy nowDisagree. The rest of the game already did feel piss easy, well before havoc.
>>521601905>DisagreeYou disagree that players keep getting stronger every patch while the game outside havoc stays the same?
>>521601905Everything becomes easy when you have racked 1000+ hours into a game.
Grinded true survivor with ogryn because im bad at the game1300hrs btw
>>521553740>The real characters are off playing a different game.yeah, they're playing Vermintide
>>521601905The game became too easy because fatshark didn't buff the enemy stats enough.And instead they resorted to the "spam elites like they are horde mobs", because they are lazy. Which has then landed us into this dogshit meta where you are forced to run shit like the dueling sword, plasma, etc. because you need to be able to deal with the congaline of 12 crushers, bulwarks, ragers, maulers and the 7 specials and all the chaff that come with them.And while this is happening there's like 2-3 snipers on the other side of the map with like 7 gunners pinning you down.Fun isn't it?
>>521603040reminder that the combat design lead quit after the talent tree which lines up with all this perfectly
>>521555391>But I'm literally killing demonsAnd the gameplay means shit.Burgles are genuinely bottom of the barrel shit, they are not even real proper daemons, they are just daemonic beasts aka just animals practically.You need to be special type of autistic to not be able to separate gameplay from fluff.You're like the dumbasses who try to justify 40k lore shit using the tabletop stats and whatever. When in truth both tabletop and the lore is completely separate and irrelevant to one another.
>>521603569Yeah, it's extremely fucking apparrent.And his replacement is either incompetent as fuck, or he has a completely different design philosophy for this game and its combat going forward.Or it's fucking both.
>>521603636I thought they kill space marines in the books
>>521602428>You disagree that players keep getting stronger every patch while the game outside havoc stays the same?no i disagree that it's havoc's fault that this is happening. It was happening long before havoc existed. That's my only point. >>521603040>Fun isn't it?yes but unironically
>>521604112You're the exact problem with this game and the reason why its going to shit.
>>521603569>>521603862the game was extremely unbalanced while this mythical combat lead was still in charge
>>521603040>Fun isn't it?It is.
>>521604265Fuck off. All I do is play the game. I make no forum posts or reddit threads. I have zero impact on development.
>>521604391Nope, people like you are the problem.
>>521604547you're the problem
>>521569228>we haven’t actually fought any daemonsthere's literally a daemonhost in the game(also the hardest boss, which I suppose is appropriate)
Why can't people set up a different build with a different aura when we have dupe classes. You would think by havoc 35 you would know this.
>>521605364because i already have eleven other builds i use in modes i like playing more
>zealot doesn't like me looging>runs ahead and tries to grab all ammo before i can get it>even pickup spamming containers that i openKinda annoying
>>521605364Yeah ahah how inconsiderate of them. Anyway brb gotta change my talents real quick.
>>521604281with the exception of veteran not really. Even then nobody said the game was perfectly balanced on the first try but the direction was good. shit was brought in line piece by piece.
>>521605364Why can't every tree function like ogryn where I can easily swap aura/blitz on the fly without needing a whole new build?
>>521606358Because FUCK youThat's for ogryns. Not for punies
>>521606358why have it be laid out in a tree if you can just pick freely?I agree with you it should be pickable freely I'm just saying its because they invested in the world of warcraft skill tree meme
How many actual distinct talent tree builds per class are there? I'm saying fundamentally different ones, not just "same but with 5% more damage to medium range targets"
>>521606858Ogryn, Zealot and Psyker have 3-4, Veteran has 1.5.
>>521606468If shit would be pickable freely then people would only run the best of the best nodes and ignore the rest.The skilltree itself already functions as a form of balance for the classes. And it prevents you from running all of the best shit. It enforces an opportunity cost to builds.
>>521606858I'd say zealot has 1, but he gets to pick the keystone and blitz. Vet has 2, he gets to pick between the wep specialist setup and the generalist setup that either goes no keystone or picks any of them at random. Ogryn has 3, he has the distinct toughness/middle shit, the damage shit on the left (both of which have overlap tho) and then a distinct ranged builddont know about psyker havent played him in a while
>>521605364The only classes worth bothering to swap trees to stack auras would be Ogryn (easy to do) and MAYBE Zealot (not easy to do because the Beacon path sucks)For duo Veteran or Psyker I'd literally prefer stacking the auras just in case I fall out of range of one of them
>>521607240>If shit would be pickable freely then people would only run the best of the best nodes and ignore the rest.Just like how every ogryn runs the same blitz right
>>521607240Zealots would stop picking knives all the time just to save points
>>521607240i'd agree with you if it had any depth. there's literally no actual opportunity cost considerations in reality. Knives is the best zealot blitz and it coincidentally also has the best talents infront of it and saves you the most points. Loner is the worst zealot aura and it coincidentally also has the worst talents infront of it and you don't want to path to that side anyway. If it was a dev smarter than fatshark sure. The swedes should've stuck to a system that doesn't require good design to make sense though.
>>521608259>Zealots would stop picking knivesnot good ones
>>521607665Psyker probably has the most build variety. Especially for auric you can build for 4 different staffs, 3 abilities, but also blitz builds, melee psyker, gunpsyker, etc...
>>521607816I don't, I like both box and the fragbomb.I don't use rocks because I'm bad at aiming.
>>521607816>Just like how every ogryn runs the same blitz rightnot in my experience
>>521608259If smoke didn't exist I'd call immolation the worst grenade in the game. Stun's okay but exists to recover a bad situation, and you never want to spec for that over preventing one in the first place. Knives enable flamer/bolter and can easily take out specials while removing the need for grenade pickups. They'd still be top tier.
>>521608531>Loner is the worst zealot aura and it coincidentally also has the worst talents infront of itThy wrath be swift is THE qol node.
>>521609245For shitters
>>521608531And you're so close to getting the problem.Stuff like flame and stun grenades are fine as blitzes and do their job well. Problem is that throwing knives are overtuned as fuck. Who would've guessed that giving zealots a weapon that is almost a hitscan weapons that can outright delete every special in the game, and these knives can be replenished by either killing in melee (thing zealot excels at) or by ammo pick ups, and you're refunded knives if you hit your mark, is kinda unhealthily overpowered?And then for the other 2 blitzes the nodes preciding them fucking suck.I would be much more willing to take something like stuns if Enemy within, Enemy without didn't suck such dick, compared to Second Wind.And you see the aura problem, loner isn't a fucking aura and BoP is less useful better you are at the game.The solution to this would is 3 fold1. buff the shittier skills so they are more appealing to take2. rework some of the nodes like BoP3. nerf the over powered shit a bit
>>521609126fire grenade is for dog immunity
>>521609730Kill yourself, tranny
>>521609730giving a (you) because this general needs ruination
>>521609569I can't aim the knives for shit so they aren't op in my hands
>>521609245bro your duelling sword?
>>521609767I'm a biological male that identifies as a man(he/him pronouns) I'm just gay as fuck.
>>521610063No shit. Kill yourself, faggot
https://files.catbox.moe/3gygd3.mp4can anyone explain what happened here (or rather, why)? the daemonhost just disappeared
>>521610453tanner???
>>521610613The God Emperor turned His gaze towards Tertium for a split second (the game decided you were far enough to despawn her so more stuff could spawn).
>>521610063Stay alive, fellow straight man.
>>521553157don't listen to the dumbasses jerking themselves off about how grimdark and horrible all of it is trying to explain this mess, it just doesn't make any sensethey'll come up with any cope to try and make sense of us being worthless reject cannon fodder trash, while at the same time also being sent on like special top priority missionsthese retarded schrodinger's jobbers rejects are just fucking stupid
>>521609569With the prevalence of Beasts in Havoc I'd argue that BoP is at least viable if your build is two points short of what it needs, especially if there's going to be another zealot on the team. At the very least the node itself is, anyway
>>521610256simmer down little chudif I came across you I'd fuck you until you love me
>>521611125Kill yourself
so angery
>>521610613once you get past her she typically respawns in another area of the level. you likely could've "seen" were she was placed if you looked around while she was still highlighted.
>>521590554do people unironically run bolter outside of meme maelstrom infinite ammo buff scenario?
>>521613891I run it, it's fun
>>521611696aww you have feelings for me
so what psyker build with shield dome is actually good?
>>521614642>being a bubblecuckSurefire sign of a sissy
I love ironbreaker
I practically never feel it necessary to slide dodge. I just do normal dodges and it's always been enough from hard mode twins - when permadeath was a thing - to now havoc 40. I look at others doing it, and I just think "why do you even bother".
>>521615370Because I really miss FPS with movement tech.
>>521614642staff of your choice + all crit nodes
>>521611034Aww, someone butthurt because the NPCs are mean to him and don't worship the ground he walks on.
>>521614758Yeah but how do I become one?What do you think about this? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9eaa86db-c165-489f-af00-80fa950aff37/kino-domeShould I take crit aura instead?>>521616057Was thinking this but recon laser instead of a staffMight as well fire back when I have a shield>>521615370Do you play zealot?
>>521615370I'll always want to slide against the Chaos Spawn grab. If you're zealot, it gives you 100% damage reduction for the entire duration of the slide. Far longer than your dodge frames. So you get in the habit of spamming them.
>>521616897I do play zealot.
>>521615370What the fuck
>>521616393Tranny is acting uppity
>>521617149>not even denying itLmaoOnly a tranny cares about NPCs in a video game say
>>521616897Here is the ultimate bubblecuck build. You may not like it, but it is what it is.
>>521616393>it's this faggot againresponding to arguments you made up in your head again, are you?you said this exact thing last timeand i told you then too what's wrong with the game and why it makes no sensebut i guess it didn't get through that pig skull of yours>>521617305that's not me you mentally ill mongrel
>>521609245niotice I said talents. You can pick thy wrath be swift on any build if you want it, but the tier past that is dogshit on the loner side. on the side with the actual good auras you get 2 valuable talents each
>>521609569>And you're so close to getting the problem.you're literally just repeating what i'm saying. Fatshark can't make the talent tree concept work because as you just outlined and repeated after me: they are too retarded to make sensical tradeoffsit's not a problem with talent trees fundamentally, it's a problem with fatshark making talent trees
>>521617440Staff+blessings of choice?
>>521613891Bolter is still 15 rounds of get the fuck out of my face.Boltpistol is better for general use but magdumping a bolter will never get old.
>>521616897>using a gun as psykerLiterally why? With a staff you have infinite ammo and a wide range of options for what type of ranged weapon you want.
>>521618858Not him DD and Gays (alongside his innate+built crit%) skyrocket Psyker's innate finesse damage to an insane degree that allows his gunning to eclipse anything Veteran can do, relegating that class to designated Plasma+shout+shredder botThis guys build is straight up retarded though, like a mastercraft in baitposting
>high lvl psyker brings meme build>doesn't get to kill anything>rushes far ahead and plays very aggressively>eventually dies>mb *leaves*
>>521619597>This guys build is straight up retarded though,It's the same retard being desperate for attention day in and day out
>>521618120I'ma keep it a buck with you bro, I don't play anything but gunpsyker because staves are all dull as shit to me. If you're really looking to be a little support bitch I guess Purg is your best choice, Penetrating Flames and Warp Nexus are the best choice for it.
>>521618092No, the problem is with fatshark making individual skills.
>>521617798>i-it's totally not me broLmao, you're not fooling anyone tranny
>>521587337??? literally how? I started playing in december (500h in now) and only have 50 more to go
>>521620257>gunpsykerYou're not allowed to use ammo in cbt 30+ though.
there's a weird latency in Vermintide since an update or two
>It's another Heihachi
>>521622231Do you even PREACH HIS NAME?
>>521620257>Penetrating Flames and Warp Nexus are the best choice for it.Blaze Away is even better. It scales the burn damage bigly.
i cant believe how dogshit this morbius mode isit's crazy how much it was hypedthis game keeps getting worse, missing important deadlines, and not really improving on the "it's a live service with a cool story bro trust us" matteri completed the event on the last day, finallyim going back to ratclick and bugclick
>>521618858>Literally why?For variety. Fun. It's also pretty good. As long as the team composition isn't too ammo hungry.>>521613891I just played havoc 38-40 today with a bolter vet. He did extremely well. Took out specialists effectively and did great boss damage in times of need.
>>521590554Boltgun and krak because I'm built for horde clear. Just use whatever you enjoy. All 4 options are great and are used at the highest difficulty.
>>521622950I know it's a DoW look, but I also know none of these Heihachies know it.
50 reapers left
>>521596896Make sure you win or don’t come back
>>521610063>>521611125You have to improve yourself man this isn’t right
>>521605080Yeah but that’s a daemon sealed inside someone. There’s no wholesale plaguebearers or anything running around
>>521619756I literally bought the game a week ago and started posting yesterday lolI'm not even recommending a build, I asked if it's okay and how to improve it
1500 reaper kills achieved
>>521620296that would be less of a problem if we didnt have talent trees. right now, even if I like stun nades, I am punished for taking them via shit talents. If it wasnt a gay tree I could just take stun nades. It makes the problem worse
>>521627704Luckily a mostly ranged maelstrom showed up and i got over 30 reaper kills
Got a few havocs to do, any EU lobby? 1380992169
>tfw you beat the havoc the swiggers wanted you to failOh did your captains, half a dozen monstrosities, bulwark horde and fire bomb spammers not kill us? abloo bloo bloo
Zealot is just worse ogryn
>>521630174Yeah.Buffs any year now.
They really need to do something about daemonhosts burrowing into the ground when active.It's annoying as hell.
>>521627843>right now, even if I like stun nades, I am punished for taking them via shit talents.Again, the solution is to buff the other talents like Enemy Within, Enemy Without.That's how you make them more appealing for people to take.Only thing I'd do for the zealot tree is make it so that you can choose whichever blitz or aura you want like in the ogryn tree.
>>521613891I've been liking Executioner's Stance with Marksman's keystone with the bolter. I click on head to click on more heads, and Executioner's ignores the bolter's poor switch out speed if I get surprise trapper'd.
Which is better for the zealot crusher? Thrust or skullcrusher?
>>521634076The weapon swap talent is pretty good for weapons with slow draws like the bolter.Most people think its useless because the full animation still plays out but you can aim or shoot before the animation even finishes, hold aim down to see for yourself.
once every 6 months i try the bigger heavy laspistol and every single time i feel like a retard for doing so. What a piece of junk
>>521634441skullcrusher better.thrust is fine, but instead charging up a bigger attack you might as well just attack twice
qrd on these heinous ritual hosts?
It sure would be nice if the demonhost events would be in a reachable spot, instead of being twice the distance than the usual one while being behind a boss spawn point. >just kill the bossDoing the twin bosses in twenty seconds would result in the host already appearing, killing a normal boss in ten seconds would still require asap running
>>521636373I guess that makes sense.I did just do a mission with thrust and I think it felt nice.I'll try another one with skullcrusher and see how it goes
>>521637284https://youtu.be/VnQZZMNwXlg&t=893
What do you rebind blitz to? Clearly G is a shit bind that can be tolerated at best on psyker but is unusable if you take knives on zealot
>>521640180>What do you rebind blitz to?I don't
>>521640180Never rebinded blitz
>>521640180I rebound it to mouse4 but even then I only did that due to zealot's throwing knives.Pressing G to throw them was ass.Also now in general press mouse4 also pulls out the grenade for other classes.
>>521641528Mouse4 is the obvious choice but I don't like precise actions on side buttons, it throws my aim off
>>5216401803, because it is my 3rd weapon.
>>>/vm/1719162>>>/vm/1719167>>>/vm/1720911
A level 350 Budding Interrogator Veteran invited me to his party on the Morning star.He proceeded to start a duo Maelstrom. Ventilation purge, waves of snipers, waves of specialists. Then he gets downed repeatedly. I would like to think, that if you have won over 1000 matches, you have learned dodge and block.
I just started playing Darktide. What is the best weapon for veteran?So far, the recon lasgun seems the best/most fun.
>>521646558Recon Lasgun & Plasma Gun
>>521646558The best weapon is whichever you find fun to play around with.You can use whatever and do fine unless you play Havoc which is the tryhard mode where min-maxxing is almost mandatory.
>>521646185ok?
>>521646256>dodge and blockdo i look like a pussy to you
>>521646768>>521646957Thank you so much, I just started being able to complete Malice missions without dying every 3 seconds, and was getting worried I would need to min-max for heresy missions.Yes, I did spend 50k on a helmet to complete my set
>>521647781>50kNo way, you had that many dockets?Woah.
>>521623375>For variety.mate psykers are the only class that even gets staffs, unless you only play psyker there's no need to play gun psykeralso if you take assail you also get what pretty much amounts to a gun with infinite ammopsyker is the least ammo hungry class if you take even a single consideration for ammo economy
>>521640180I put it on C, because that way I can keep the tip of my thumb on it while the second joint of my thumb rests on the spacebar for dodging.
>>521647781cute newfriend...
>>521646558Recon lasgun is the most straightforward point and hold left mouse button gun in the game, you will like it if you enjoy shooters. It got decent ammo pool too (especially the third variant, second variant is deceptive because it consumes 2 charges but only deals damage once) so you can spam it a lot. It's not exclusive to veteran, it's more of an option for players that don't care about secondary weapon and want something simple and reliable.If you want to do veteran things, you have to go with plasma. It hits like a truck, pierces elite enemies, impossible to overheat if you use primary fire (also primary fire is more cost-effective, 2 uncharged shots deal the same damage as 1 charged shot that consumes 9 ammo, but each consumes 3 ammo). Reload is ass but it got a giant magazine and ammo pool, so you don't have to reload it during combat (though you absolutely can if your ability is recharged and you can dodge), you cool it down with special action instead.When I play with friends I delete groups of crushers with plasma (because they suck at videogames) but when I play with randoms, ogryns and zealots deal with many elites before I can. So I'm not sure it's exactly what I'm supposed to be doing, but I don't see how any other veteran secondary can compare, plasma is OP as fuck.If you want to tryhard you can also master helbore lasgun with blessing that inflicts brittle. But I feel like it's a high effort low reward weapon.
>>521649782I figured the best key for throwing knives would be mouse scroll down, so I went with that as a secondary bind
>>521647781don't sleep on relics, free toughness and health is never bad
>>521640180blitz - mouse5special - mous4tag - scroll upjump - altI'm not too certain about mouse5 though. Are there mouse designs that have a button on the bottom right where the pinky rests?
>>521648924and what class are you going to use a lasgun on?it's really either zealot or psyker, and zealot got flamer and boltguns that synergize with his tree
>>521651979>Are there mouse designs that have a button on the bottom right where the pinky restsI have a swappable right panel with buttons for the right side on my g900 (it's meant to be convertible for lefties but they can be programmed as separate buttons) but they are just regular forward-back buttons, it will be very a very uncomfortable grip if you want to press one with a pinky
>>521648494way to be an asshole, ASSHOLE
>>521652379Yeah I was just thinking theoretically if I could design a mouse I would put an extra button on the bottom right where the ring finger naturally rests just for ease.
>>521652953Cute things are made to be bullied.
>>521652079>and what class are you going to use a lasgun on?Veteran obviously. Y'know, like literally everyone does? You take the shock trooper node, the ammo aura and build for crits and then you never need to worry about running out of ammo.
>every ranger vet is a bomb shitter who buys morgrims>every ironbreaker is a shield shitter who does 0 damage or a trollhammer shitter who blows you up and hogs all the ammo>every outcast engi is a mix of the two inbetween dying to pink ratsthe only time i dont roll my eyes is when a slayer joins just because theres a 50/50 chance they are actually good at the game
>>521653635I play ranger and I shit out ammo, potions and bombs when someone kills a specialistis that not good enough for you?
>>521567593I want to purify her with the Emperor’s light and suck on her titties
>>521653107It should be an easy mod to cut a hole for an extra button, especially if the mouse already supports extra buttonsThough I'm not sure if this particular mouse has free space, most likely there's a battery there cause it's wireless
>>521654534as long as you get good and stop taking the bomb talent
>>521640180caps
>>521634441>>521636373not him but I run Thunderous + Skullcrusher for that reason
chainaxe psyker build?
>>521655850I take the temp HP talent to help my allies
It would never happen, but Fatshark should add the DT skilltree system to VT2.
>>521658779Maybe in VT3 a year after launch
>>521658470Upgrade that to orange and put headtaker&thunderous blessings on it
>>521658498welcome aboard
Sneed
>>521633031>fatshark cant balance so the trees are bad>NO! THE TREES WORK FATSHARK JUST HAS TO BALANCE.>okay but fatshark is swedish and doesn't balance>ANON... THEY JUST HAVE TO BALANCE. keep waiting retard nigger
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>>521670954>ogryn tree gives options>psyker tree gives options>even vet tree has options outside of aura and ult>zealot tree is a straight line with a choice of 3 ultsNooo Fatshark cannot balance we must return to VT2.
>>521671601>Ogryn tree gives optionslike what lmao? you pick melee or ranged thats it, the talents are dogshit design that railroads you into bleed build for melee and there's only only correct choice for ranged builds (with one variation if you use a kickback)
Should i buy space marine 2? I saw it's on sale right now
>>521675662How much? Anything more than 50~ and I would say no, it’s lacking in content
Should I ever use rightclick on inferno staff? Feels like a waste of time and peril.
anyone else play outlast trials?its pretty good for a multiplayer stealth game
>>521673473Dumbass
>>521646558>BolterBest DMR in the game hands down, Barrett 50cal with the ROF of an M4 feels and sounds fucking GREAT to use. Instakills just about everything under Gunner tier. Two to three bodyshots on gunner tier to kill. but you have to invest in reload skills. Don't hipfire unless you're surrounded, trying to clear out trash at range or inflicting panic on groups of gunners>Infantry LazPretty damn good DMR at clearing trash, get good at headshots for anything bigger. Has a reflex sight and fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Only use the green one though, orange is slightly stronger but too slow and blue is just shit.>Hellbore LazBetween the first two, really slow rate of fire but hits like a goddamn truck>Infantry AutogunThe first one is a good DMR if you burst fire. Second and Third marks are great close range bullet hoses>Recon LazFucking beast. Great range, great ROF on all marks and decent damage. No recoil as the cherry on top. Has DOGSHIT stagger though witch makes it hard to stunlock trash, though I hear they got a buff recently>Plasma gunINSANELY STRONG but has shit ROF, shit ammo and can kill you if you're not careful. Get a good melee weaponBest guns in the game, everything else is usable with the right builds though get overshadowed in their niche for Vets by those listed except Vigilant Autoguns which are absolute fucking trash
>>521678915Why would you want stagger on recon lazgun? I rolled 60% collateral specifically because I want my targets to flinch as little as possible as I light them up
>>521598441it's been bad this week for some reason, last hotfix fucked something up for me
>>521679786Because low tier gun thugs can run out of your volley, stagger lets you stunlock them
>>521627704grats dude
>>521640180H but i'm left handed lol
>>521681251Thanks. Now i have a frame for my lugger build
>>521681896frame this instead*unzips dick*
>>521683586*slices it off with my 3" rick hinderer xm 18**frames it next to the picture of my dead grandmother*
Am I griefing if I take Immolation Grenade instead of Blades of Faith?
>>521683962Mayhaps in high havocsIn aurics you're just griefing the ogryns by stealing their grenades
>>521681896I don't think i've seen anyone use it yet besides me so it's probably pretty rare still
why wont these dots go away there is nothing new in there and its triggering my autism
>>521684361This guy had it >>521571695 I have seen a few very high lvl players with that frame including a lvl 1000 psyker
>Disable Screen Effects mod doesn't work>last updated november 2023are there any working alternatives or am I supposed to live with the screen clutter?
Is anyone else free from the shackles of Havoc?
>>521684928One more mission
>>521684846stop being a little bitch and live with it
>>521684928two weeks thanks to fatshark being dumb
>>521627843>I am punished for taking them via shit talentsWhy is this node considered shit?
>>521640180i keep it on G because i'm a ring finger on W chad
The fact that the Ogryn talent tree rework is close to perfect gives me hope Fatshark can do the same to every other class eventually. There are still bad talents, but they are few and close to none are truly useless.
Why do I hit targets easily with knives in psykhanium even if my aim is shit (it's like knives gravitate to heads) but in real games I can't hit shit even if I aim perfectly?Is it latency?
>>521686662vet is next, r-right...?
>>521688508No. Vets already have build variety, the variety just happens to suck
How come everyone elses game looks clearer than mine when I've got everything on high
I saw some ogryn with the twin stubber ranged build absolutely shredding everything the other day, anyone got a good build for a ranged ogryn?
>>521694890Are you looking at screenshots with higher resolution than you?
>>521695390no
>>521695223That was me and this was my buildhttps://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9eab849a-744e-4449-bc22-01a2e8f43172
>>521684318>know a guy who exclusively plays zealot>can't learn knives so he plays stun/fire>started cussing out all these new ogryns for stealing his grenades every gamePlease do your part taking grenades from zealots until they learn.>>521691478Survivalist needs to be baked into vet's kit by default. It's the only way other auras could be competitive. Smoke needs a rework. Exe stance needs to reload your weapon/give bottomless mags. Stealth needs to either refresh significantly faster or allow attacking from stealth like huntsman/ranger veteran. Or maybe team stealth since they're testing that in mortis.
>>521678293yeah suck that swede cock faggot
>>521696093Wasn't you and that definitely was NOT the build
>>521696269I played mostly ranged maelstrom as a lugger with a CD aura psyker and i basically had barrage up the entire time as long as elites were in the area. It was like having a super buffed exe stance
>>521696778It might as well have been me. Use this build and you'll wipe the screen with ease
>>521696093worthless
>>521697328Hey, worthless. How do you like my build?
>>521696093whats the dump stat on that gun guessing collateral?
>>521697878YesI want to remind people that you should dodge INTO lesser enemies if they are bothering you while you aim to knock them down
>>521678915>and can kill you if you're not carefulHas this ever actually happened to anyone?
>>521700615*raises arm stub*Me
>>521700912It's ok. I won't laugh.
>>521700615yeah i used to charge shots, i just left click now
>>521700615Happens every time to me when I start using charged shotsIt's impossible to blow up with snap shots though
>remember I had 20-odd kills left for the last contract on one of my characters and couldn;t be arsed to finish it last night>log in>"New weekly contracts are available"ah fuck
First time playing in ages, these talent trees are horrible. Feels like they tried to emulate poe without understanding the games are not alike. Then for some retarded reason your grenade pick is tied to the preceding passives. Want toughness damage resist on crit? Gotta pick knives! makes perfect sense.
>>521704707Just play ogryn
What secondary to run on Zealot and why? Feels like they've got a plethora of only B-grade options
>>521705534i run the braced autogun because i dont know why i just do
>>521705534Bolt Pistol or Revolver if you decide to go flame grenades, for special popping.Between strong melee and throwing knives you can get away with a specialty choice, like Bolter or Flamer to magdump your problems away.
>>521705534>bolter with throwing knives to offset weapon swap animation>bolt pistol or revolver for snapshots>flamer for clearing mixed hordes on damnation+ or to be a massive faggot on any lower difficulty>laser pistol for funso long as you avoid the shotguns and don't expect too much from the autoguns, you'll be fine
when is darktide going to be actually good?
>>521252732Fuck dark shit
>>521706408>>521706453my brother
>>521706408the day after you uninstall
>>521706247>if you decide to go flame grenadesreal answers only please>>521706270I've been running bolter but aside from blowing open Bulwarks or getting lazy with bosses I find myself just not getting much use out of it. I used to go laspistol with Ghost to close with shooters but on Havoc there's just too much going on to make it a priority, especially when you can just use Chorus' suppression to go in as a team.I've always been mixed on flamer - like yeah it's good against mixed hordes as long as that mix only includes dogs or scab ragers, anything else is able to get in your face and hit you out of it. Plus I'm not a big fan of not having any real tools for dealing with problem distant shooters/gunners/bombers/snipers that the rest of the team just sometimes struggles to deal withAnyway I cycle through all of these picks and just can't decide on the niche I want for them in my playstyle.>don't expect too much from the autogunsThey didn't nerf the Vraks did they? Before the crafting update that was top1 pick I thought
>>521707072>running bolter but aside from blowing open Bulwarks or getting lazy with bosses I find myself just not getting much use out of it.that's its intended function for the most part, it's a "fuck this sudden CRUSHER column" panic button. With the throwing knife animation cancel, it does become a solid special clearer though. 1-2 shots will kill the vast majority of specials and gunners.>laspistol with Ghost to close with shooters but on Havoc there's just too much going on to make it a prioritylaspistol is great for snapshots mid-horde, you should be able to switch to it and execute an elite or two within a few dodges with some practice. Very much has a niche for getting gunners/shotgunners/reapers off your back, and unlike the revolver you can afford to use ammo on lesser shooters too.>flamer - like yeah it's good against mixed hordes as long as that mix only includes dogs or scab ragers, anything else is able to get in your face and hit you out of it.it kills shotgunners and maulers as well, without your attacks being cut off by the chaff between you and them, which is a lifesaver on havoc and higher difficulties. With that being said, I don't generally run it myself for the same reason you cite regarding distance. It's absolutely an SS-rank weapon though, so I have an obligation to mention it.>They didn't nerf the Vraks did they?Not directly, but they lost a good chunk of their functionality when chastise lost its ranged armor piercing. They're still usable and I personally echo >>521706246 with the braced agri, but it's definitely not as effective as it was and I find myself feeling like I'm limiting myself when I choose to run it.
>>521673473>you pick melee or ranged thats itLike how in VT2 you just pick temporary health and CDR.
>>521670954>bro you don't get it>it's totally impossible for FS to balance anything we must go back to the shittier, more limiting just as variety-less system as beforeOgryn's tree has actual variety now and actual options.You're just a dipshit who can't think outside of the box.
>>521707072>hit you out of itThy wrath be swift and/or a team player (me) watching your back.
>>521684928I would be but I still have to join other people's havoc 40ish times.
I never got the whole appeal of "bitchy but in a hot way" until I played Vermintide and heard Kerillian (despite her actual character model being la creatura like everything else Fartshart made). I like her accent and attitude. And her drunk dialogue melts me.
>>521709804Her ingame model is NOT lore accurate unless she's some kind of chaos mutant (might be why she was exiled). Elves/eldars are 7ft tall on average.
>>521686217It really isn't. It's not overly strong or overly bad.
>>521686217It's fine by itself, the opportunity cost is what kills it.
>>521708487Aye but Zealot doesn't really struggle with Crushers because it can already two-tap them with DS, nor does it really need mid-horde snapshots (which is why I'm not bothering talking about the revolver) because it has knives.>Not directly, but they lost a good chunk of their functionality when chastise lost its ranged armor piercing.It can still nearly instantly delete up nearly a dozen specials in a magazine so I don't really miss being able to get lazy with Crushers. I honestly have no idea why anyone would recommend any braced gun when Vraks 5 exists other than like maybe bad aimIt's like every option is 'OK' but doesn't really slot itself well to cover all the bases one might want - which I suppose is fair, but it does end up with a lot of overlap in niches that already exist in the kit. I think I might just go with the Vraks just because I can't slot in Dance of Death to make Bolter worth taking for boss damage, as a general ranged utility - unless maybe the Recon buff puts it over the Vraks? idk>>521709552Yeah but I'm not talking about game modes where facetanking is a viable option
>>521696269>Survivalist needs to be baked into vet's kit by defaultArguably survivalist should just be deleted from the game outright because there just isn't balancing that shit.Free ammo every 5 seconds is just too good no matter what.Also doesn't help that Survivalist becomes more and more useful, more there are elites and specials on screen. Aka Fatshark's current way of increasing difficulty in this game. It is basically just a positive feedback loop.
>>521710879>Also doesn't help that Survivalist becomes more and more useful, more there are elites and specials on screenonly up to a point, it's got a 5 second cooldown now
>>521710503>Zealot doesn't really struggle with Crushers because it can already two-tap them with DSIf you're running DS then this entire conversation is completely fucking pointless, anon. You can't run the premier "point and click to insta-win against literally every single enemy in the game" melee weapon and then talk about how a ranged weapon isn't really useful because the aforementioned borderline cheat-weapon fills its niche already.>why anyone would recommend any braced gun when Vraks 5 exists other than like maybe bad aimAmusingly enough you need better aim to do well with the braced guns than you do with the normal autoguns.>I can't slot in Dance of Death to make Bolter worth taking for boss damage, as a general ranged utilityWell, there's your answer then. If the Vraks works to fill the general ranged role you want, then that's your gun.
>>521711272Duelling sword is good but having a melee weapon that can kill elites particularly well, bosses decently and hordes sorta okay-ish I don't feel translates to an all-encompassing build strategyBut yeah I guess I talked myself into Vraks for gunners, snipers, and in a pinch against specials if I run out of knives
>>521710987And the cool down means shit because it only bottlenecks the speed of how much ammo you generate.The ability still has a positive synergy more elites and specials on screen because more specials and elites are on screen, higher chance you have proccing survivalist.And more elites or specials there are, easier it is to just chain kills together so you can trigger survivalist continuesly.
>>521712634100 elites on screen gives the same output as 1 elite every 5 seconds, a very low amount of elites
>anons are about to start bickering about survivalist ammo regen again
>VT2: 90% melee 10% ranged>dedicated ammo boxes in every level that offers infinite resupplies>DT: 50% melee 50% ranged>only 2 ammo boxes spawn per level, need to be found, need your retarded teammates to use them properly, only 4 uses totalWhy did they do this? Most of the issue with survivalist stems from this stupid change.
>>521710216She was exiled because she inadvertently helped the Skaven or something.
>>521696093i tried your build and i like it but i keep getting put with vets and zealots who take all the ammo so i cant go crazy
>>521714669For some reason i have been encountering zealots who waste all their ammo shooting chaff with the bolt pistolI generally have about 15 small and 4 large ammo pickups in aurics
>>521710216her in-game model is six feet tall which is in line with WFRP 2e's average elf height.
So y'all gonna make a new or nah?
>>521713787I miss Haruhi
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