0.3 will surely fix everything.>Dawn of the Hunt Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3740562>[PoE2 News]>Patch 0.2 Dawn of the Hunt [Live April 4th]https://pathofexile2.com/hunt>Patch 0.2 Teasershttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3726160>Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>[PoE1 News]>Legacy of Phrecia Eventhttps://www.pathofexile.com/phrecia>Event Extended 1 month - Patch 3.26 set for Junehttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3731967>Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Wikihttps://www.poewiki.nethttps://www.poe2wiki.net>Game Databasehttps://poedb.twhttps://poe2db.tw>Ingame Chat Channel/global 1488>Stash Tab Priority (for newfags)https://rentry.co/5e8zgg8kPrevious dogshit: >>521426427
>>521466446It wasn't. Johhny said he wants you to die.
Daily reminder by Jonathan:>that the campaign is balanced for a player with 0% res>that the campaign drops enough Exalteds and Regal so you can craft every single item that you want>that if you lack currency its because you are not disenchanting them enough>you always have money to gamble items
>>521466241is it by design that ES characters DO get to just tank oneshots? kek
never expected to say take me back to 0.1 but here we are
>>521466525>the game is balanced around HIS playthroughsliterally left me speechless
>>521466503what i meant was that the position of "one shots should be one shots" inevitably draws players towards glass cannon builds through psychologythere's nothing mechanically wrong with this kind of design but that's not the only concern
>>521466405link?>>521466525all of that is bulklshit tbqhwyf
I spoke to the /vg/ mod (chinese) and he said every single IP making /poe2g/ threads was from india
>>521466525>campaign is balanced for very low resists, stacking for the act boss element is really the only time you have to.>there are enough regals to craft your gear, slamming is a waste outside of the odd god tier item.>getting regals by disenchanting is how the system works.>you have money to gamble, and you only have some many items you can even buy at a given time because their stock is based on how many unique monsters you've killed.
Reminder.
the campaign actually is balanced for very low resists though, even with 0 res you get dropped to 20% not instakilled
>>521466525This is technically true because mobs respawn, so you have access to infinite currency, money and crafting materials during campaign, just grind for 3 weeksANYWAY what are you all crying about, the campaign is easy
>umm please buy uwuw our mysteruwu boxies uwu???NO YOU FAGS I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT STOP SPAMMING IT IN CHAT PUTIN PLEASE NUKE NZ
is tactician still bugged?
>>521466673
>>521466771honestly i dont trust his opinion because hes a serial altoholic who jas never finished the campaign all the way to maps
0.2 is a highly effective last ‘poch advertisement
>>521466673DELETE THIS YOU FUCK
>>521466673>Alkaizer is playing the same archetype of build in the past 10 years and still gets one shotted by mechanicsAbsolute mazie behavior, meanwhile Benjamin Lightee is creating new meta builds every single patch since 2016.
WE'RE RICH WE'RE RICH
>>521466525He is a liar.
>>521466673>heh sucks that you have a cool new op build to play in your fun game game, whats that a javazon? the beloved build from d2. whats that? no annoying combos just fast fun gameplay. and look at this useless ignite support.damn doomies stay winnin
Nobody cares about the endgame in ARPGs, everyone played through the campaign and the replayabilitywas creating new characters and test out new build.The people that wanted more of a challange played hardcore, the people that were "endgame" grinding in games like d4 was so minuscule they don't even matter.Like what's the point of endgame in ARPG if you're a softcoreBABY, for hardcore players I understand to try and push as far as possible. But softcoreBABIES are just doing the same maps over and over again with zero challenge and no reason.
>>521466772>I-it's early a-access>EA pay fee: 30 bucks>b-but t-they w-will d-deliver>0.2 was supposed to have Druid and Huntress and we only got Huntress>I-it's early a-access, t-they w-will deliver>the game is supposed to be released early next year, but they are monetizing the game with mystery boxes and paying streamers to shill the game>C-CHUD G-GO PLAY Y-YOUR POOP 1, O-OKAY?
>>521467041the truth…… hurts
>>521466525>that the campaign drops enough Exalteds and Regal so you can craft every single item that you wantBiggest fucking lie. I want to craft so much shit, I'm stuck with a good amulet with 2 fewer affixes because I just ran out of fucking exalts. Granted, I'm still *only* on T2 maps because I can't find corrupted bulllshit but still, fuck you Jonathan.
Stun threshold or ailment venom draught?
>>521467041>in games like d4Meant d2 of course
frogtrannies must be the most pathetic creatures on this planet
>>521467030It's genuinely pathetic how Poo2 shitters will constantly cry about how dogshit 1 button gameplay is but the fuckin SECOND one emerges they literally all flock to it, the post isn't kidding when it says that almost fucking HALF of the current PoE 2 players play not just -a- one button build but the -SAME- one button build.
How many months left until it's the date GGG initially promised on full release?
The overnights are in boys!!!!!It's official.Poch has flopped, is flopping as we speak and will continue to flop into the forseeable future.In a time of global uncertainty, it's nice to know we can rely on some constant assurances.
>>521467142chaos res
>1.0 possible by 2026
>>52146705230 dollars4 months>5 new ascendancies>new class>new skills>new maps>new mechanics>new crafting>new atlas passives>reworked and rebalanced endgamecompared to kino games like d4 which got a new class after a year you had to pay 40+ dollars for.last epoop? whatever that costs, thats a year with nothing, but hey they are reworking a class.
Huntress companion viable?
>>521467228Some time next month kek.
>>521467041The point is making your build work and push it as far as it can go.That of course won't work when you only play what's meta, most fun is had making your own builds.
I’m about inching closer to selling out and playing javazonIs there a oneshot mechanic possible for bosses with it? I refuse to play builds without great single target dmg.
>>521467212Uhhh... hopesisters... it's already up another 2%...Why don't people want to play the meticulously designed combo gameplay and instead just go for the one button cookie clicker build???I don't understand, Jonathan said one button builds aren't fun...
>>521467212well yeah it's the sequel to path of exile and it's an arpg. the whole point of the genre is to minmax one thing into godhood. poe 1 has 'combos' as well, a series of actions to buff you or debuff an enemy. really not the killer blow you retards think it is.
>>521467269>new mechanics>from PoE1>new crafting>from PoE1>reworked and rebalanced endgame>from PoE1, one of them that they decided to copy from Phrecia resulted in 300 players getting banned for being smart
>>521466721People seem to work on the assumption that they should be able to stand still and tank everything with their face during campaign progression like GGG aren't trying to make a light action gameThe only time I've had to stop and adjust anything on my gear or skill loadout has been vs zalmaranth because there are ZERO parriable attacks in the whole fight, not even from the adds
>>521467315The reason I'm asking is that I remember a little while ago Steam making a new rules around EA requiring full transparency and repercussions for missed deadlines and broken promises.
You're playing hardcore... right?
>>521467461>t. doesn't understand his own argumentsHopesissies keep telling me how bad one button gameplay is and that you just shouldn't ever be able to get there, certainly nowhere near on the level of Lightning Spear and even if it was good, it isn't fun.Yet, despite that 50% of players play the braindead one button build.Could it be? Could it be that this is actually fun and superior to Jonathans vision?
>>521467504and? why wouldn't they take mechanics from the first game... it's a pretty common practice in video games lol
>>521467545They just put a big flag on your game that says "this game is dead and recieves no development" if you haven't made an update in 1 year afaik. There might be other things but i haven't heard of them
It's true what they're saying.Poch has flopped!It flopped like a dog, we told EHG don't flop. All I'm saying is I wouldn't have flopped people.Meanwhile, we're making PoE great again. We love our PoE don't we? Under my leadership, we'll make PoE the greatest ARPG the world has ever seen.
>>521467604Yes but in the better game.
>>521467640
>>521467684if only he ran against jonny as lead designer
How do I kill the giant tornado chicken for my second ascendancy as a warrior?I literally can not outpace his tornado, resulting in my death every time What's the trick, warrior bros?
what did jonathan mean by this
>>521467624When a game has strictly enforced challenge and reward systems most people will play the path of least resistance. The number of people using low interaction AoE spamming builds in the endgame tells you that these options are too fast and easy relative to the more interesting ability interactions
If they don't want me using heralds, then introduce way more content focusing on ebin 1v1. The general endgame pushes you heavily into aoe bombs
>>521467041>Nobody cares about the endgame in ARPGsi, personally, don't care. that means everyone doesn't care.
you know i didn't want to be just a doom and gloom, and gave poe 2 chance today with an open mid. >right away the main home page looks weird, it looks so clunky and messy that it doesn't give a good first impression>the UI is absolutely terrible, like something that was slapped together in an afternoon in MS paint>both of these combined just make it look very amateurish and a huge eye sore >get in the game, character choosing animations are pretty bad but whatever>first area>dead ends at every turn, have to literally walk to the edge of the map as it slowly reveals and then backtrack>monsters are really hard to see, turned up their health bars and it still only appeared until after i attacked them first>monsters hit for half my health while i have to hit them 4-5 times just to kill 1, feels even worse with a big pack >was already icked pretty badly from first impressions and how clunky the game played after slogging through the first area>get to the boss>game disconnects me out of nowhere>log back in>everything is reset and I'm starting overnot going to even bother further or try again. there's just something wrong about this whole game i can't put my finger on it.
>>521467870ARPG's have AWFUL player retention
>>521467521is that the chiimera
>>521467910No game has good player retention, except for roblox for literal children.
>>521467624your argument is a retarded strawman. you play poe 1 you run through the map one shotting everything, you get to a tanky rare and you debuff it, maybe pop vaal haste and then nuke it. that is a combo, woah. for the majority of poe 1s existence every build ran an aoe and a single target skill, and curses and other conditional skills. ggg have a marketing department so they use fancy terms like 'combo'
>>521467142stun charm takes less charges to active than anti aliment charms
>>521467973There's still like 20k people playing Skyrim at all time, on PC alone.
>>521468006>you play poe 1 you run through the map one shotting everything,Bro, PoE2 is just like that, I actually don't understand hopesissies that ignore the existence of Lightning Spear in this patch or Spark/LA in 0.1, this is just PoE 1 with extra steps, in the end players will find a way to one shot everything and DEBUFF everything, even the new gloves unique that lets you put enemies at -50% res its great for every single build to bossing.
>>521467973you understand that this post makes no sense, tight?
>>521467962It's the golem with the fucked up elbow hitboxes, all of his "melee" attacks are considered area damage and not attacks. I had to add rake back in because I couldn't generate any frenzy charges when nothing could be parriedChimera has a melee range swipe you can parry
>look at LE patch notes>it's all just adding tons of new mechanics, systems and busywork>no actual contentI hate what PoE has done to the ARPG genre.
>>521467910No they don't
>>521468176ah yeah that guy, hes easy enough to dodge so i dont think frenzy charges are really necessary
>no actual content
>>521468190>>it's all just adding tons of new mechanics>>no actual content>tons of new mechanics>no actual content>NEW MECHANICS>NO ACTUAL CONTENT
>>521468190retard
i just crashed a server
‘pochin it up
>>521468190bait
>>521468110>PoE2 is just like thatyes anon it is, it has been like that since it entered into development. why do you think they added a bunch of timed swarm mechanics for the launch of the early access? you think they added breach with hundreds of monsters charging at the player expecting them to carefully dodge every attack and set up meme combos, or do you think they expected people to delete the screen instantly?
the rhoa feels more frustrating than anythingit's great but stun bar is so out of the way that you barely even see it
>>521468284How is adding a skill tree for every single thing in the game being more "content"?Content is adding more enemies, maps, area's, abilities and stuff. You know stuff that affects GAMEPLAY something PoEfags hate.Adding a tree that does stuff like "Mobs now drop 1% more blue items" is not content, it's just dumb busywork.
17 got completely buckbroken by Alk huh, every thread he's bringing him up unprovoked.
So... Based on the content added since it went on EA, can we extrapolate and predict when the poe2 will be done (all weapons, all classes, all acts of the campaign)I think I'll just wait.
>eceleb shit
Why /poeg/ has such a hate boner against Last Sleepoch? It's a small indie company that pulled only 80k players at the launch of Season 1, it reminds me... of when D3 players like Quin69 and Alkaizer had a hateboner for PoE1 for no reason.
>>521468425>How is adding a skill tree for every single thing in the game being more "content"?>content>/ˈkɒntɛnt/>noun: content; plural noun: contents>the things that are held or included in something.Idk chief, by definition it seems like content to me.
>>5214685402 years from now
>>521468529>troonkaizer and talkative golem are the last bastions of ggg defenselmao desu
>>5214685522028.
>>521468582depends whether we're talking the full poe2 that was originally promised or not. they're already cutting classes from poe2 1.0 and at this point i'd say end of year or april at latest.
>>521468540they will end EA when campaign is ready, regardless of ascendancies/weapons
>look at LE gameplay>they actually have interesting and fun looking skills>gameplay and combat looks more impactful than PoEWhy are we hating LE?
>>5214685402028 and they will cut:>the promise of porting PoE1 MTX to PoE2 (it's pretty obvious that they will announce in june or july this after their slow ass work in 4 months)>probably cut act 6 and release just in 2029Maybe they will release sooner full of bugs if Blizzard tries to release Diablo 5 before 2028.
>>521468740they said they are targeting "1.0" in december but that will not necessarily include all classes
>>521468861this is the poe2 thread, kindly fuckoff or get sage'd
/arpg/ thread
The weirdest part about the combo stuff to me is that you actually have that as an option in PoE 1. Take Frostbolts of Icenova, you can run Kitava's Thirst and have a comfy (mostly) one button build, or remove that meme helmet for an actual helmet and double your DPS, but then you'll have to... combo your skills.Most builds can forego some QoL or comfort for power. Hell, I used to enkindle flasks with 70% inc effect even without mageblood. But everyone (and myself, now) automates their flasks instead. Why? Because no one wants to do a rotation like it's fucking WoW, people just want to zoom, chill and kill mobs. Save the rotation shit for bosses which you do every now and then (or, if you actually spam them, you're running a 1 button instaphase one shot build lol)
>>521468913I'm going to play LE and then i'm going to post about it in this thread
>>521468907nah they will port mtx, they will get crucified if they do not, absolute game killing pr disaster
rakes damage sucks fucking cockfuck you fucking faggots fuck jonathan and fuck this game
is anyone playing totem or warcry warbringer? is it shit?
>>5214685710.2 has nearly converted me to a poocher
>>521468947makes sense, there aren't enough people to keep a last shartpoch general on the board.
So last epoch is actually released but the campaign and story is not done?
>>521469074just like poe2 in a year
>>521468951Let's wait, I think GGG has a plan to burn at least all of their good reputation with the community by delivering less content so they can go back into delivering new expansion every single 3-5 months, they think that they are Hades/Baldur's Gate 3 where people came back into the hordes at the launch after years of early access.
>>521469074what?
>>521468968I think the damage is fine
>>521468540I'll just play a bit whenever they add something new that seems exciting. Thought huntress seemed cool so I came back, but I won't sink hundreds of hours into it or anything. Finish the campaign, do some maps and quit, then just wait for the next big update and see if there's anything interesting.
>>521469074It was in Early Access for 5 years, now its been released for nearly 2 years and its still not done.
>>521469074that's how gamedev works nowadays for most people.
>>521469074Why does that sound familiar....
>>521469201do you just take all the melee and bleed nodes or what
>>521469201show the gear, fucker probably has ryslatha and astramantis
RELEASE DUELIST NOW
>>521469214>still not done.i have never gotten that impression or heard anyone say that.source?
>>521467862There aren't any interesting ability interactions thoughbeit
>>521468540
>>521469074lmao what? it's real. LMAO what the fuck the game was in early access for 6 years and has been out for over a year and they STILL don't have a finished campaign.. the shilling against poe makes way more sense now.
Why does every act boss feel like youre playing Dark Souls with SL1 and great club?
I'm playing Grim Dawn.
>>521469248>>521469268ssf gear except for lycosidae, just following goratha's build
its like all chinks suddenly decide to login at this time
>>521469074How do you know? You care about lore in a ARPG? For me the story ends with me saving the snake lady against the scary snake lady and it puts me in the endgame.
>>521468997See you in .3 after you wake up from the coma last sleepoch puts you in.
>>521469271A simple google search will suffice.
>>521469319LE devs just know that absolutely nobody gives a single shit about the campaign GGG puts so much effort into, in a year or two GGG will realize all the time they wasted on creating this campaign is wasted because more and more people will be asking to skip this pure vile steaming pile of shit.
>>521469349that doesnt answer my question
>>521469349I'm following that build too, have my strength uniques, level 60 act 3 cruel, have the best phys weapon at my level range from trade, feels absolutely dogshit holy fucking shit
>>521467212I'm fine with one button gameplay so long as the actual gameplay is fun. Plodding along at a jogging pace through an empty map clicking a single button every 5 seconds isn't fun or challenging though. That's the thing about poo2, nothing scales. It goes from feeling frustrating while you are weak, to a complete fucking snoozefest when you are strong because the combat never gets interesting and there actually ARENT any combos its all a fucking facade
>>521467812Anyone?
>>521468540campaign will be done by mid 2026 and it'll leave EA. all the classes/weapons will probably be done by the end of 2027 or early 2028
>>521469485you don't have to, there's 3 different bosses and it's RNG which you get. the other 2 are substantially easier.
>>521469450I dont think my gear is anything special
>>521469426absolutely fucking hilarious. doomers blown the fuck out. >we have uhhh 41% of the story complete
>>521469427Campaign means>Tilesets>Bosses>Enemies>Map layouts>Quest systems>Event systemsDOOOD ITS JUST DA STOOREEE.Shut the fuck up retard. The campaign is literally the games "content".
We have combos at home.
>>521469557illiterate retard
>>521469661this gem is a massivemassivepile of shit
>>521469608you can do that in reverse tholike you can build those for maps and then use them to make campaign afterretard
All the classes and weapons will be playable by the end of the year.
>>521469306>a massive success>failing to retain and attract back over 800,000 players, with barely 200,00 mostly poo1 players left is a massive successHOLY LMAO KWAB
>>521467812>>521469485Bro I don't know the skill names because I'm a strength stacker, for me at level 40 it's all about to drop those spikes on the ground, like 10 of them before the chicken arrives, if you get a stun drop the perfect strike or whatever is called the thing that you have to charge on his face multiple times and hope that he dies, if he stays alive run away because he will fuck your ass up with the tornado, repeat the cycle and that's it.
>>521469564Why does EHG employ troons? Asking for a friend.sg2vn
>>521469550Are bosses locked to the entrance tablet, or can I just keep trying the one I already have and hoping it rolls a different boss?
how to clear simulacrum as monkalrdy got T1 and T2 but can't clear the rest
>>521468984It hasn't changed much since 0.1.A full totem build is really held back by the fact that totem damage doesn't scale with your weapon and ironically it's better on titan for the +50% small passives.Warcry doens't really work outside of meme builds. It's nice in addition to a normal build but you aren't killing shit outside of strengh stacking for corrupting cry and it does genuinely shit damage on rares and bosses even with the some of the best gear possible.
>>521468968rake damage by itself SHOULD suck cock because it's a utility skill, but it doesn't, instead it's one of the best damage options on the weapon which is retarded. You can't just say everything other than the most effective possible meta build (Combat Frenzy Lightning) "sucks", sometimes shit needs to be weakerIt would make way more sense for Rake to be your fast Bleed applier/gap closer and for your best melee damage to come from something like Rapid Assault which has some commitment and isn't an instantly spammable movement skill, but Rapid Assault is the skill that actually sucks fucking cock and there's no reason for it to be as bad as it is
>>521469742American company so it's a forced quota.
Bored out of my mind playing EDC. Now that we have an ascendancy swap we need a character swap as well. Let me switch to huntress/amazon and play lightning spear without doing the campaign again.
>>521469564>we have uhhh 41% of the story complete>the game has 7 chapters>it's missing 3 chaptersHopesissy fails at doing basic math once again.
>>521469697(which year left unspecified)
>>521469746they aren't locked to the tablet, just restart and you'll get potentially a different boss.the chicken is easy, the manticore is easy but long and boring, the bird is the hardest where you actually have to take your time and do the mechanics.
>>521469074>finish idol slots quest>finish passive point reward quest>ditch campaign>go to mapsFuck campaign
Dark Effigy surprisingly does a lot of damage I've noticed. How do I best scale it higher?
>>521467030Javazon was more fun in d2 cuz it was actually fast. Even the itemization in d2 was better items in poo2 are fucking horrible
>>521469854fuck my life poe2 gameplay is so boring to watch.its actually anti-content.
>>521470129I want valkyrie wing in poo2..
>>521469872i was making fun of the tranny suicide rate. in all seriousness no one expects ehg to bother finishing the trash game after being in early access for almost 5 years.
>>521469608>Tilesets>Bosses>Enemies>Event systemsCan be done for endgame first.>Map layoutsNever have the same layout in the endgame anyway, and if they do, see above.>Quest systemsQuests, in an ARPGlollmao
>>521468540>month 5 of the 6 months EAsoon!
>YOU NEED TO WAIT A LITERAL MINUTE FOR THE DOOR TO OPEN BECAUSE OF IMMERSION BROkys jonathan
>>521470232>take out all charm stupid shit on the tree>add stamina to toggle running>transform all charms nodes into more stamina regen or more staminaHere Zaccie, I fixed the game for you.
>>521469854can you post it in better quality?
>>521470129look how fast a level 1 diablo 2 character is compared to poe2look at that movespeedlook at how fast white mobs die even within 30 seconds of character creationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbgyTRxgDY
>>521469948What level are you anon? It start's falling of massively later on.
>>521470321>Quests, in an ARPGWhat do you thinking completing specific maps under certain conditions and unlocking atlas tree points is retard.
>>521468529Imagine being a hapa with the personality of a a wet dishrag. What went wrong in that lil gups life?
>>521470546Do you think implementing a system for those takes more than four hours AT MOST?retard
>schizos are back to obsessing over some random forum userdead game
>>521470546People are so brainrot or under age that can't associate a objective that rewards something as a quest, it needs to have a NPC talking and saying that will reward you if you complete something.
>Retard STILL can't count months correctly.
>>521467812it's simply a movespeed check (which is extremely retarded considering the state of the game) but you can bypass it by hoping you can kill it before it does the movethat's all there is to it, it's just an incredibly badly designed boss
>>521468984Totem damage got nuked from orbit
>almost 200k views in under a dayjohnny's not gonna be happy.....
>>521469948It scales with everything a normal spell scales with and anything related to totems.
>>521470572He got molested by her sister, that's why he is stuck as a 15yo edgy boy in a body of a 40 yo.I wish that was me.
>>521470707If only views and upvoots = players. But alas...
disengage allows you to phase through monsters that even dodge rolling doesn't work on, how much you wanna bet its nerfed
>>521470678Yeah, because the knowledge of counting months or knowing the order of the months is a poor/nigger knowledge that lives paycheck by paycheck, I just put my lawyer to pay all my bills monthly so I don't have to deal with this low-class issue.
>>521470360that's the file limit so not really
>>521470820the ability to do that is literally a core feature of the class bro...
>>521469854Why are you so bad at the game?
>>521470440Level 73 in tier 5 maps. Right now at least it's very good at melting rares.
>>521471009define good
>>521470895What a weird response. Shut the fuck up your autistic jeet faggot.
>>521470906i mean you can post on gofile or something but its fine
Reminder that Poop 2 0.2 pulled 260k players meanwhile Last Sleepoch launch pulled 270k, know you understand why GGG is afraid, if somehow they are able to get better numbers on the launch of Season 2 it will be Diablo 3 vs Poop 1 all over again with GGG as the greedy out of touch company now.
>>521470957>the ability to do that is literally a core feature of the class bro...are you implying that makes it safe from nerfs? because lol lmao as if that has ever stopped ggg. I wouldn't be surprised to see it gain a longer forced attack time to slow it down (and thus make it useless) and no phasing through monsters behind you and a total distance nerf because jonathan doesn't want you sweeping your cursor behind you and disengaging backwards to move faster as a travel skill
>>521469854>jumping through hoops instead of just spear throw auto attack that does 3x the dps of anything but exploding a big bleed procSo this... is the power... of the vision...
>>521470367>30 yrs to go from this to chinkslop rollslop with no items and designer buildsGGG have destroyed arpgs
It's crazy how MF is somehow even more mandatory this league than in the last. If you don't have at least 100% MF, preferably 200%, you might as well not even play the game because you'll be dropping jackshit.
>>521470367it takes 2-3 hits to kill a white mob with default attack, when he switches to poison it takes like 5-8 seconds to kill him. whats the point?
>>521471209as an amatuer game designer and having listened to the recent interview i predict that disengage will have no meaningful nerfs as long as jon is on the team
Look guys he has a dog dick
>>521471417why the fuck would disengage get nerfed? it's not even faster than walking backwards.
>>521471432>dog dick
>>521471432We have an expert here. Quin, is that you?
>>521471473if you mouse move it's definitely faster because your character doesn't even turn around to use itt
Rerolling and blasting the campaign with levelling uniques feels amazing after the bullshit league start experience.
>disengagewhy would i ever do that?i mean thats literally admitting you werent strong enough to beat them.
>>521471473>it's not even faster than walking backwards.I have an attack speed+movespeed aura companion to help me zoom and I still polevault with disengage especially since it animation cancels into attacks that can also propel you forwards furtherdef getting nerfed abuse it now while you can
>>521471473quite
>>521471432Is this meant to be jaquyini or whatever? The lore dump says he was going to put himself in a crystal if Atziri cataclysm bombed the place. He isn't called Jaquyini though iirc
>>521470790>if only views and upvoots = playersOof!
>>521471597it's for ground effects bwo
>>521471709Zicoatl, Warden of the Dog Dick
>>521471597if you point the cursor behind you it becomes "engage"there's also another pretty busted QOL interaction with it but I'm not gonna say because I haven't even seen streamers use it and I don't want it getting nerfed because I know fucking quin reads these threads, he literally called that aislop asala image a "4chan thing" when someone linked it to him
>>521471753>self reporting he has a shit buildlisten i know poe2 players have a humiliation fetish but this is just pathetic.
>>521471404are you actually retarded?
>>521471847you take it as your first or second skill in the game, you obviously dont need it after you are vaporizing screens with lightning
>>521471923no, he's just disingenuous
hey guys sorry i have nowhere else to askwill i have more fun in lost ark as glaivier or breaker?
do you guys have zero common sense? are you guys at 1 on that "imagine an apple" scale?
>>521471969do you like combos? cuz breaker is all about them iirc
>>521471931>with lightning>>521467441i dont want to hear hopecucks talk about poe1's "1 button builds" ever again.you fuckers are drawn to them like a moth to a flame
>>521472006You dont even understand what youre referencing
'poch devs cooked with the new updateniEHGers > niGGGers
>>521472070i just want the abilities to look and feel coolim a big fan of stabby spear stuff so i wanted to go glaivier but the breaker video looked really cool
>>521472156>niEHGerswe gotta work on thatnEHGers might be better.
>>521471923no, but you are. you've probably never even played d2 lolthe fact that you are using a speedrun from one of the best d2 players, a guy who runs the campaign 6-8 hours a day is peak retardation. you can buy poe 2 ea right now and make a character, go two shot white mobs on the beach.
i don't understand PoE players, huntress has many viable, even overpowered builds but they only play one of them?
i dont think i enjoy endless grinding. these games might not be for me.
>>521472276you forgot the 2. dont lump us in with those freaks
>>521472349gasp
>>521472358shut up PoE 1 players do the same thing, the league launch build distribution always looks extremely limited.
>>521472349>endless grindingbut thats not truethere are bosses and goals in the endgame.and when you beat all those you start a new character and do it all over again.
>doing act 3 cruel>threw a bunch of currency at a white spear and got thisI see Jonathan's vision
>>521472156i'm really looking forward to the continuation of the story! t-they finished the story right? surely by now.. almost 7 years since the first demo.
>>521472276poe2 is a bit one-dimensional - using even the 2nd best build is a lot like using the 2nd best spear in your stash, no reason to do it.
>>521472460but i have to do countless maps to get anything good to fucking drop
>>521472428>PoE 1 players do the same thingMain SkillsLightning Strike16%Vaal Lightning Strike14%Power Siphon7%Kinetic Blast of Clustering6%General's Cry6%Tectonic Slam of Cataclysm6%Flicker Strike5%Cyclone5%Righteous Fire4%Shockwave4%Lightning Arrow4%now drink bleach retard.LIGHTNING SPEAR IS 48 FUCKING PERCENT of the builds.and this is just phrecia, but normal settlers is similar, even if you check week 1 settlers the highest played skill is lighting strike at 10%
>>521472623>NYOOOOOOOOO I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME!!!!!!!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!! I JUST WANT TO PLAY NO MORE THAN 20 MAPS AND DO ALL CONTENT.go back to fortnite kid
>>521472718now tell me how many skills are in PoE you cunt, this is extremely limited, like 98% of skills are unused
>>521472718do you think maybe the fact that it's a new class, new ascendancy, new weapon type and new skill might have something to do with the popularity of the build right now?
>>521472718>new class>good skill>skill just got buffed (why? idk)waow so many people using iy
numberfag is dead?
>>521469697lol. lmao.
>>521472073>PoE2 hopecucks act smug about one button builds>Immediately go and play a one button build as soon as Jonathan throws them a tiny crumb of one button build>Meanwhile PoE1 chads actually play combo builds (DD and Slam Warcry rotation)Kind of ironic isn't it?
>>521472857i just admitted the game might not be for me lol
>First map of the daylol they're so desperate to keep me playing this slop ahhaha, silly jonathan
>>521472718i was playing amazon no matter what. barely any new shit got added anyway, and most of the old shit was nerfed.
>>521471031Killing quickly using the games tools in the ways which are obvious and synergistic
>>521467441meanwhile me with my 1 of a kind bleed build
how do the streamers get good loot so often
>>521472904>now tell me how many skills are in PoE you cuntthat was never part of the argumentnice to see you shift the goalposts tho>>521472938it doesnt matter WHY poe2 players are behaving this way. all that matters is that they are.all of the ascendancies were brand new in phreciabut there was a decently healthy split.>>521473151you simply missed the point of this conversationthe percentages dont matter on their own, if there were 10 skills all with 10% usage but all 10 of those skills were used in 1 button builds my point would be exactly the same.retard
they nerfed it so hard worth less than a regal in tribute currency
as an evasionfag I've learned to deal with the big lumbering enemy slams but these frog? type enemies that leapslam you at 200km/h and the sandworms that spawn from the sand under you to bellyflop are really testing my patience
>>521473469streamer client.
>>521473476>it doesnt matter WHY poe2 players are behaving this way. all that matters is that they are.?????what point are you even trying to make? you cant just go "hey look at these stats" and imply something negative then say nothing else.
>>521473602how do i get access?
*ahem*LAST EPOOP
>>521473609>what point are you even trying to make?thanks for conceding that you have no idea what this conversation is even about.
>>521471262>spear throw auto attack that does 3x the dps of anything but exploding a big bleed procyou didn't even test this did youIf you have easy access to parries off the enemy moveset then parry combo into exploding spear IS more damage while also being AoE. Although it really should have more of an advantage over mashing auto considering the effort
>>521473670This post is certified SOFT
lily said poch it up
Thanks for the tips on the second ascendancy, warrior bros.I made it. Feels good.
how many characters do you guys have?
>>521473476>all of the ascendancies were brand new in phreciayes that shows you how fucked poe 1 is lol poe 2 added something new and people flock to it. the top 3 ascendancies in dawn of the hunt are 3 of the 5 new ascendancies.in poe 1 fuck it, mines or lightning strike, doesn't matter.
>>521473714you are really bad at conveying informationgo back to school lil bro
>>521472857>NYOOOOOOOOO I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME!!!!!!!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!! I JUST WANT TO PLAY NO MORE THAN 20 MAPS AND DO ALL CONTENT.this but unironically. fuck boomers.
>>521473972you jumped into a conversation when you didnt even know what it was about.kill yourself nigga
>>521467842but they come back 12% sooner bro! 12! (twelve)
>another patch without buffing ConcoctionsI'm going to scream at the top of my lungsJONATHAN ROGERSYOU FAT FUCKING HACK
>>521470440NTA but I was curious and decided to try a dark effigy build on my lvl92 character in normal league and it does decently well overall.
>>521466525>Forgot to mention that apparently if everyone could move faster than monsters everyone would just skip them despite the whole point of the game being about killing monsters for items and xp
been seeing a lot more 'poch hate recentlyyou know, if 'poch wasn't a threat to poo2, the hate wouldn't be necessary. y'all scared?
>>521466673I'm convinced that the utter fucking retards here trying to say PoE1 is simple just because it tends to be focused on a single damaging ability at end game haven't ever made their own build or indeed even completed the atlas.
>>521472270you sound triggered, bitch. So using poison clouds to kill enemies while moving is something exclusive to speedrunners now?
>>521474415>been seeing a lot more 'poch hate recently>y'all scared?
>>521474375Tourist postYou run past most mobs in 1 unless you're a shitter
>>521471726>4 million people watched the content reveal waiting to see if arpgs were back>3.8mil of them all collectively said "yeah, nah, I'm out"Grim
>>521472857made me realise i was being a bitch and made me log ini got burned out cause i was doing a tier 4 waystone that gave mobs %38 more hp and it felt badmy damage isnt ready for that!
>>521474509>You run past most mobs in 1depends on the monster, some a huge pita to outrun if not downright impossible (hasted, essence...). hit and run isn't really a thing in poe1, you just facetank stuff or die trying.
spearfield is the real mvp holy shit
>they STILL haven't added the ability to turn off auto targetingWHY IS THIS EVEN A THING IF YOU'RE NOT USING A CONTROLLER, HOLY SHIT
>>521474509only blue mobs are worth killing in 1, everything else is just "kill if they're blocking you or faster than you" kind of thing
>>521474662shhhhhh the minute streamers start shilling it this general will be cancer
>>521470746totems only scale with skill level
>>521474689i want better auto targeting, this ain't a fucking fps, i don't want to aim at every tiny monster on the screen.
What support gems do I use for Bonestorm?
>>521474662Todd won
SSF or trading in last 'poch?
>>521474486why would i be triggered that it takes 10 seconds to kill a white mob in d2?
>>521474787Dark effigy is a special case, it does scale with spell passives.
>>521474890SSFOnly cucks play trade
>>521474801Its fine if you're on a controller but an active hindrance for keyboard and mouse. You have fucking remote-cast AOEs you can't fucking position because you're forced to lock onto an enemy.
>play LS on MKB>can't aim for shit>hit wall vaguely near a mob>everything on screen diesheh.
>>521472276There's 2 straight up problems with poe2, that poe1 only half has. 1) they nerfed everything so people don't want to waste their time, they're going to pick something that works. Everyone is playing ED, Lightning Spear and Rake because that was hyped as "you can be strong and not waste your time" 2) The game is hard so people gravitate to things that make the game less hard, this is called risk compensation
>>521472938Reminder that they also released>tacticiannot used>spectresnot used>companionsnot a build>various other huntress skillsnot used>smith of shitava and anime weaponnot used because shitThat's a big shit
>>521474997The game isn't hard, it's tedious.
>>521474997Its not just this but lightning spear feels fun to press while everything else feels incredibly underwhelming
>>521475103You just have no imagination.
>>521474894idk, you tell me, buttmad anon
>>521474890ssf, it has a system of boosting drops if you go ssf so its 10 times better than poo
Nobody here is actually thinking about playing last epoch... right? It's just irony posting right?
Path of Exile is a game that gaslit itself into thinking anyone not treating it as a full time job is a casual
>>521474890pooch has the best ssf system in the genre
>>521475103yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree. Poe2 has no fun skills
fucking niggear games servers
>>521475314lil bro we're gaming 'poch come 17th
>In PoE 2 you will be able to choose the stat travel nodes giveCool.>In turn, they only give 5 instead of 10 of the stat Resonable>Oh we also increased the stat requirements on everything lol
>>521475067damn thats crazy.
This shit is so ass.>absolutely 0 rewards whatsoever.>gets oneshot by some bullshit as ususal>can't parry shit at T16 maps with max res>almost 0 currency drops after a good +50h in the new league.>all item rolls are unspeakable dogshit and nothing can sell due to the extreme poverty of a majority of players.>still lose 10% flat per death.>same gameplay and boringness.>trial of chaos is bugged if you take volatile crags.>nothing clears as good enough as lighthning spear and yet it fails a lot of the time.>bosses are not possible to do unless you're giga-maxxed out.Yeah... this "game" goes to the garbage disposal.See you next league.
>>521475462>also we doubled the number of stat nodes on the tree so you have to spend more points to get anywhere :)
>>521475648>Yeah... this "game" goes to the garbage disposal.>See you next league.there's your problem, golem.
its over for poo2 in 5 days.
>>521475314I'm raring to go. If they deliver half what they've announced it's going to be a good time.
>quality doesnt increase spirit ????
>>521475739I actually worked this out and there's approx 20% more travel nodes iirc. The real change however is there are less shortcuts through clusters so you have to path around more
>>521474487>using this imageDo you know the context right? The "I Don't Think About You At All" has a subcontext, right? You're not a illiterate amerimutt/jeet that uses as the literal sense, right?
>>521474509>99% of the playerbase kills every mob in their way>But 1% of the player base just skips them because they drop no lootYou do know that most of the playerbase plays the game for fun and think fighting monsters in their way from objective a to b is fun right? if running past monsters is an issue them maybe the monsters should drop some actual fucking loot so the 1% feels like its worth fighting the monsters as well
I blame bald for letting all this happen
>>521466673>Ack-aizer>doesn't adapt to the new game he shills relentlessly>dies>Benkee>adapts to the new game he shits on relentlessly>1st on hcL M A O
so in the middle of gaming suddenly the labels for all sorts of thing started disappearing unless i hold altalso for drops which is extremely annoyingdid i change a setting somehow? what the fuck happened?
I was having trouble with my meme tactician build and finally tried lightning spear+volt after seeing someone in this thread mention it, holy fuck the clear on this is absolutely retarded; it's not the greatest single target but I wasn't having issues single target it was being swarmed by 100 hasted annoying mobs that was the issue.this feels better than a lot of poe1 skills, how did they unironically nerf fucking hexblast but then put this into the game?
does rain of arrows work with point blank?
>>521475985t. gay virgin loser like (((ginsberg))) who obsesses over his betters
>>521476149press z
>>521476149found it, always highlight in the optionsis there a keyboard shortcut for disabling that that i accidentally pressed?
>epoop has the best X in the arpg genreHow to spot a POO SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRR
>Its outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZeBA5xgZ4I
chin chon people are duping again, live search any boss unique and watch
>>521476197best to just play it to exhaustion now because it is the Sparkweaver of 0.2 i.e. next league it will not fucking exist
>>521467521I know that this looks really cool for the avg retard but in maps, unless you plan to always be 10 levels ahead of your current map lvl and run them white, you will die a lot.Good news though, you have 6 portals now so go wild anon.
>>521476271>>521476262
>>521474375I also run past a lot of them in two so what's your point?
>>521476335The real tell is gonna be how many people remain once LE launches
>>521476238wouldn't /pooegg/ be don in that context then? considering this is the poe general and no one thinks about last epoch at all.
>>521469319Nobody tell this guy about how long PoE1 had a 4 act campaign for. Or god forbid, 3 act
>>521476403it's actually wayyyyyyyyyyy worse than sparkweave, since literally all you need to make LS+Volt work is have your build scale Attack damage. Stormweaver Archmage was a specific ascendancy and a specific playstyle that also requires being a mana-stacker, here no matter what class you're playing, no matter what ascendancy you have, as long as you put your skill tree points into boosting generic increased damage, Hits, projectiles, or Attacks you can use it......and you should. because why the fuck wouldn't you? the only barrier to entry is equipping a spear and using common support gems.not any character could instantly switch to archmage sparks in 0.1, but literally everyone can LS in 0.2
They refuse to add a basic feature. Then they get praised when they add it? People are so gullable. They created an artificial problem they can fix at any time for an easy win
>>521469694it's fun with static strike however
>>521476818straight out of blizzards playbook
>>521476724Nobody tell this guy how 3.0 almost doubled player numbers
>>521476818>refuse to add>they add itNice third world saar logic!
>>521476335Buy an ad
>>521476335>all these clips wherrre streamers are forcing smiles and pretending to have fungrim
j-jo-jonathan raped m-me...
>playing through act 1>barely get a handful of equippable gear>slog through to act 2>same deal, minimum amount of gear drops>do trials of suckmaballs before dreadnaught (overleveled)>went infernalist and grabbed demon form>still no decent gear dropping>currently in act 3>gear no longer drops>demon form increases player collision box>cant dodge through enemies>cant get stats or skills through weaponwill we get gear drops in 0.3?
>>521477087hot
the campaign is so fucking boring I cant force myself through it3.26 please
>>521475093Journo post
>>521477090Uhm, bro, jonathan dropped gear, so no, get better RNGbtw, why does almost every ascendancy either give shitty conditional dmage or defense only as their first nodes?
>>521477149>i wanna play poe1!!!>*play poe2*retard alert
>>521477123judd would be a better fuck
The fact that so many people are playing LS just confirms that people just don't want Jonatroon's vision.How is this not a clear message? Jonatroon needs to get this through his fucking head.People who're playing ACTIONrpgs want very simple things>level and progress your character and have fun while doing so>reach high level and start end game grind and have fun while doing so>by farming maps later earn btfoing entire screens of monster and one shot bosses HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?If I fucking wanted to play dark souls I would've played dark souls.Retard.
>>521477226
>>521467521>the faggot is back to posting acts gameplaykill yourself, I don't mean this as a joke, actually kill yourself
>>521477217the vision, aka play on the dev build that wont get shipped
>>521476706>wouldn't /pooegg/ be don in that context thenyes
>>521476724poes 3 act open beta to 10 acts 3.0 expansion was 4 years, they also had 19 leagues during that time. maybe the last epoch devs need to spend more time in the kitchen.
>>521474839Anyone?
>>521467461>well yeah it's the sequel to path of exile and it's an arpg.ok, but why does this sequel exist then?
>>521477307>he posted while crying and sharting his retard pantskek
Holy fuck combat frenzy does absolutely nothing now, might as well remove it from the game
>>521477445to improve various aspects of gameplay and visuals while broadening the playerbase i.e. making more money
>>521477149I would like you to finish the campaign
EGH has the perfect setup on "easy mode", just note down everything GGG does wrong and adjust or avoid it in their game.I'm not dismissing their hard works but it's like having to see your older bro gets punished by your parents and you note down how to not repeat the same mistake.
>>521477087You shouldn't have undermined him on the interview stream, Mark.You were asking for it.
>>521477535>making more moneyyeah stopped reading there, thats the only real reason
>>521477559>GGG makes mistakes they already fixed in the first game>EHG doesnt make mistakesthe vision bla bla bla
>>521477559name a few things ggg did wrong that egh could improve on
>>521477559If PoE was an offline game, LE would be a mod
>>521477631were you under the illusion that ggg was a non-profit charity?
>>521477631>stopped reading at the end of my postcute retard
>>521477549>I would like you to finish the campaign MY WAYJonathan is like those dudes in asmongolds chat who kept screaming>STOP SPOILING AND GIVING HELP DONT GIVE ADVICEduring his Dark Souls blind playthrough
Daily reminder Elon killed the Rust King and reddit ragequit the game before they even got to the Miller
>>521477679As a PoE player of 10k hours, GGGs biggest mistake nowadays is lacking common sense. "Just avoiding their mistakes" doesnt do justice for LE devs. Look at crafting in LE for example, it was the best, noone led them to do that. And now its getting even better because they are doing it, perfecting the best craft system an ARPG ever seen without any handholding or guidance.
The conundrum that no one can figure out. The age old questionWhy does poe2 exist?
Anyone else on EU got desync issues with mobs? especially bosses
>>521477704money is only a means to fund better gamesif you don't think like this you're not a real game dev and probably a chinky one
>>521477821Jonathan wants his legacy too
What do you think the mood is like around GGG HQ recently? Do you think the devs and other employees are happy and still excited to work on PoE 2?
>>521477882and he will forever be remembered as the faggot that ruined 2 games at the same time
>>521477821Tencent wanted more money by double dipping on Supporter Packs / EA release.Chris was against the game split but was overruled by Jonatroon (unironic VISION enjoyer) and Mark ("please stop ruining PoE1") so he left
>>521477821To fuel the Chinese economy.
>>521477863EU servers have been fucking garbage for the last few days. Rollbacks and all kinds of shit
>>521477863Doing fine on the paris server.
>>521477863>>521478024that's what you EUcucks get for ripping off America!!!
https://youtu.be/gMhgjZGaT8s?si=WEt5OyoK94odtP9GHuh why isn't there a PoE 2 gauntlet?
>>521478024Servers been fine for me the past day EXCEPT desyncing with mobs, so not sure if its on my part or theirs
>>521477821>poe1 is chris's game for hyper autists>poe2 is jon's game for consolebabs and normiesthey needed to attract a new audience
>>521478161this isn't a gauntlet, retardit's just a race event
>temper weapon last proc loops when channeled through resolute shield making it literally the best clear option for smithi wonder which youtuber's going to snitch
are minions still misery to level with?
>>521477821maybe ask the source, lil gup averaging 11 hours a day during 0.2.0. maybe thats why it exists?
>>521477559yeah just like ggg avoided every mistake d4 did oh wait they did the exact same thing.game devs are just retards with ego maxed out.
>>521478453Everything is misery
>>521478641>every mistake d4 did oh wait they did the exact same thing.such as?
>>521478525>man goes to work
>>521478641>every mistake d4like?
>>521478525Damn, imagine having to play this dogshit game for a living..... grim
>>521478790everything except the designated RMT build LS which recieved a buff to its single target.
>>521477310>campaign is too hard>woooooow why are you posting footage from the campaign?eat a dick fag
Why didn't Pekora come back?Does she think the game sucks?
>>521479097having to snipers mark -> LS -> snipers marks -> LS.... is also misery, this entire game is misery
>>521479097What level does LS come online? Want to know if I should even bother playing this patch
>>521479067i'm having a blast
>>521479072Welp, that was the wrong fucking image. See you all in a few days I guess.
I got to level 93. Mapping is kind of a joke still, really easy. Except Atlas progression takes forever if you do it yourself and it makes no sense, you might as well just grind t15/16s and outright buy the invitations.
>>521479178act 3
>>521478905so ben wasn't crying about poe 2 when he asked why it existed he was having an existential crisis?looks like he got that sorted, poe 2 now has a reason to exist. huzzah!
>>521479180Me too bro, you're so right! Who else here unironically having a blast? Blast-havers link up!
>>521479072At least post some poe porn?
>>521479240>verbal diarrheago off lil bro
>>521479164>early acessanon...
>>521479256Just straight up clicked on the wrong thing. fml
>>521479104>campaign is too hardwho said this?the sentiment is that the campaign is boring
>>521478641if you know you know, not gonna go into a tirade regarding this issue.
>>521479178once you have decent crit chance and can sustain frenzies with snipers mark. so like, first lab.
>>521479309it's so over....
>they spent 4 months on balancing everything in the game
why the fuck are you people rallying behind ben anyways? he's been having a pretty good time this league and the actual changes he wants to the game would make half of you kill yourselves.
>>521479178Basically as soon as you get it it becomes your best option for clear, with default attack for bosses.
>>521479413why did they buff itidk
started cryeng thingken about cyclone and flicker
>>521479181>>521479315You can delete it
>>521479240>ask question>WHY ARE YOU CRYINGyou ok retard?
>>521479413they still haven't learnedyou cant balance a communityeven if you try and remove what they want from the game they will try and force the game to give it to them and if they still cant get it they will move on.
>>521479413>they spent 4 months making mystery meat mtx>1 day of balancingftfy
>>521479413They spent 4 months "balancing" but have spent 6 years before that ensuring everything is incredibly fucking boring.
>>521479164She said she's waiting the other actsShe's playing Dark Souls 3 right nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYKHTiTacAE
If GGG actually revelead their data on how many people make it to maps in the first place, they would lose all faith the community had in them
>>521479413the balancing was mostly nerfs. everyone should have expected this lol
>>521479620that's the worst fromsoft game though
>>521479620i wasnt planning on doing thatbut i am now
>>521479673ask if i give a shit
>ggg now uses metrics and data to balance and develop the gamegrim
are people really not making it through the campaign? its pretty trivial now
>>521479620Menstrual cycle app bros...why did we lose
lightning spear builds are getting some small changes early next week
>>521479317Reddit(You)And literally the 3rd post in the threadWhy are you so insecure that you sperg out whenever someone posts gameplay that isn't LS?
>>52147852519hrs followed by 12 hours is crazy lmao. I'm sure it brings it good money do you really need to go this hard. Bro when are you sleeping>>521479413People said it was ok then they buffed it 25%
>>521479719do you give a shit?
>>521479509chill bro, you guys still have zizaran lol
>>521479746arpg players are not used to difficulty
>>521479174you just put it in CoC tho
>>521479413>GGG railroads you into alpha testing spears/huntressthank you for your service
>>521479746>trivialIt's boring, I cant play for more than half an hour before alt+f4its so fucking boring
>>521473385I'm still not game enough to do a map because of the rollbacks and crashes so I started my second character instead
btwjust real quickwhy does poe2 exist?
I was promised breedingwhere is the breeding
>>521479797>19hrs followed by 12 hours is crazy lmao.That's what happens when you don't have a REAL job or a REAL family
>>521479413Isn't this somewhat to be expected?It's a: the new class, and b: the only functional skill on the new class (kinda).If druid comes out in 0.3.0 and it has a gem that's better than the others it will be similar, same for every class after.
>>521479771you assume that this anonymous is the same person.people claiming this game is hard are just outing themselves for being bad, you can ignore those people.the campaign is boring cause nothing drops, its a slog to go through unless you're consistently lucky.
>>521479807it's a slog, it's not difficultI played tons of different builds in 0.1, I don't think I can bear doing the campaign a second time this time around
>>521475462yeah this shit bothers me, the old triple tap nerf
the atlas UI is such a fucking mess jesus
>>521479746You people don't get that the difficulty was never the problem for them. It's just tedious and a chore to get through. Also there's the issue that you only start to get good skills towards of act 2 still so you have 0 entertainment value til then.
>>521479870Mark and Jonathan got into an argument on whos the better game designer, chris instead of settling their fight dipped and made jonathan the new headnow mark has to watch jonathan not only destroy chris legacy but his aswell
>>521479870it doesntit never hasonly in namePoE is not PoE without Chris Wilsonnu GGG is just a 10c operation
poe1 is better in every single way
>>521479870they just wanted to see how many streamers they could push over the edge.
...it feels like some POE veterans don't realize anymore how lucky they are with the dev team they have.Seriously, the reaction and the passion from them is amazing. The generosity in content, in POE1 and 2. The interviews. The quick patch notes adressing a lot of things brought up my the community.And on this reddit, they get constantly flamed, it's crazy. Some comments and posts I see are borderline hateful towards them.Of course they have some visions they have to defend, because as a dev, you can't just blindly take all the feedbacks from the players and put it in your game. You have to be careful. Especially feedbacks from people with 10k+ hours, i mean those players are a SUPER IMPORTANT part of the community but they also have very specific and weird needs that new players just don't understand haha.Again, sorry if you're not a big fan of POE2, that sucks. And it sucks that POE1 is not taken care as much this year.But for real. We are blessed with the people who are taking care of this game.Personnaly i'm having a blast on POE2 eventhough there's still some work to do and some things to adjust.Peace and stay sane Exiles!!
>>521479975you say that but ive seen lots of videos of absolutely braindead players
>>521479975i think the difference in clear time rn is probably like 30 minutes tops.
>>521479924>b: the only functional skill on the new class (kinda).patently untrue
>we wanted weapons to feel distinct so we gave them skills and hard locked 99% of skill gems behind specific weapons typesThis is so fucking retarded. I really don't fucking think anyone cares if weapons are very similar.
>>521480080>you should be grateful they killed your favourite game for another cashgrabwhat is it with redditors and lodging their tongue in some devs asshole
>>521480053I thought this was going to be that michael jackson and marilyn manson joke, it has the same opening
>>521480110If there's more viable skills that proves what I mean even more, it just shows people will play the shiny new thing and gravitate towards the best build for it automatically because those people are also casuals who look shit up, or power gamers who will play the best thing. How do you realistically prevent that?
>>521479975im not fucking playing a3 twice per char again
>>521477559the problem is that PoE1 was the older brother making mistakes for a decade and PoE2 should have learned from it. Yet GGG act like they have selective memory loss or fucking brain damage and act SHOCKED that problems they ran into over ten years of running PoE1 come up when they specifically forget to remember the lessons learned. Armor still using the old formula before PoE1 buffed it because armor sucked cock before they changed the coefficient from 12x to 5x and added shit like fortification. PoE2 launches and damage is multiplied by 12x before determining armorr reduction and there's no fortification for melee skills and thus evasion stackers and ES are the actual tankies characters in the game. great job
>>521480080>...it feels like some POE veterans don't realize anymore how lucky they are with the dev team they have.dont ask for receipts but PoE is mainly funded by whales, now ggg is ignoring said whales after milking them dry to make a game they hate with the whales moneyof course people are mad, its like being together with a crazy chick, fixing her and then she leaves you for chad
>>521480249you dont
>>521480249you're right and i don't think it's really an issue, it's just more glaring right now because it's a whole new class and it's going to keep happening with every new class, once they stop adding new classes it'll even out
poe 2 good
>>521469854> Le utility skill> All his skills are zdps> Makes effort to make and post webmsKek. This is just like that Shiggydiggy Huntress promo video that had zdps written all over it.
>>521479746campaign should not be easy or difficult and especially not feel like it drags out or boring.campaign should be fun, engaging and have an utility role. it should be an onboarding tool. it should teach you how to play the game, have good music and cutscenes. it should prepare you for end game providing the player with resources and currency.
>>521480102I guess if you're really bad at doing the bosses it might be more "difficult" but other than that it's literally just slower without any difficulty increase
>>521480205>I use build guides>too hardshitter whos bad at video games says the game is too hard
>>521479995if playing the game is a chore why are you playing the game
>Just enough inc dmg to always be worth it taking this early>Just enough reduced cast speed to feel like shitWhy are they like this?
I’m mostly surprised at the people coming in posting ‘I have over 9000 hours poe1 so I’m super experienced but this thing they did is horrible and I uninstalled poe2 and will never come back!!!’Buddy if you’ve played poe1 that long you’ve endured many many ‘worst league disaster ever’ with the associated ‘poe devs dont even play their own game posts’. Be patient like always. Have a little faith.
LS will get nerfed for 0.3, alongside every other build that was remotely usable and the Druid's bear form stampede will be horrendously overtuned for 4 months Also concoction skills will get nerfed again because JONATHAN IS A FUCKING RETARD HOLY SHIT
>>521480428>cue tyler1 clip
>>521480445stop copypasting from reddit you cockgobbling weeb
>>521480494https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIO1g97S2x8
>>521479975Not him but if there was no screen deleting build (LS) I would not be going through the campaign again right now. The campaign still feels like fucking job to play even with that build though.
>>521480494https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAqZs8tQq8U
>>521480428>playingplayed, now im waiting for LE.replaying metroid prime until then
>absolute fucking retards see rake as a top leveling skill>they use it but slot a bunch of bleed supports instead of stomp>they are utterly CONFUSED about why their damage sucks ass>they complain on EVERY possible forum about how rake sucks despite never using it with stompimpressive, truly
>>521472519> No light radius and mana on killRigged rng
>>521480445Do redditors understand there is a difference between a temporary league being shit and the entire dna of the game being shit?Do they realise that if you don't say anything nothing will have even a chance of being addressed?>nooooo please stop being annoyed at all the things you dislike nooooooooo
>>521479489no need, jannies were put to sleep by sleepoch
out of all the schizo posts on this general i truly, genuinely do not get the ones describing chris as some sort of champion of game design who wouldnt have let this happen.
>>521480372those skills aren't zdps his gear is behind the curve
with all the fucking ailment garbage in the game right now Time of Need feels borderline mandatory, I tried taking it off for a map and shit felt so much worse without it
another poo of excrement another game where melee is shit
>>521480358poe 2 bad
>>521480686this is what Chris wanted
>>521480686>>521480729>>521480782>>521480796>>521480809>>521480605These posts are certified SOFT by the TalkativeTriad
The fact that almost 3/4ths of the players are playing screen deleting builds goes to show that no one gives a fuck about Jonathan's vision of a slow ass combo based soul slop game
>>521473602It's known that streamers get to skip the launch login queues, meaning that server side recognizes them and can chanhe their rng. Real online casinos do this stuff btw.
>>521480686the thing is, if chris was also at the wheel and it still happened, we would have no excuses as to why it fell off so hard and we can simply say ggg finally became nublizzbut with chris going literally off the grid missing, we have that as a reason to hope that the game only sucks because he's gone
>grinding phrecia every day since launch>finally drop a mageblood>roll perfect flasks>desire to play evaporates>dont want to play anything elsenot like this...
>>521480886yeah people with lower mental capabilties generally need a simple, easy to understand reason to explain why things are the way they are even if it's fucking retarded, i get that.
>>521480876>Real online casinos do this stuff btw.nigga thats poe
>>521480869well yeah, endgame map enemy density is so high and they do so much damage the best defense is to just kill everything instantly, there can be no combo gameplay with poes kill or be killed mapping, it isn't about not wanting to do it, the campaign is fun and it works there, in mapping it doesn't.
>>521480876people already started to believe this early on when jelly kept on rolling headhunters on stream for a punishment game
Any HARD gamers here?
>>521481000why do you feel the need to call me stupid, big bro?
>>521480445>Buddy if you’ve played poe1 that long you’ve endured many many ‘worst league disaster ever’ with the associated ‘poe devs dont even play their own game posts’.I don't remember them leaving poe1 to rot while making a shittier game
>>521480898you're allowed to take a break anon. grinding poe 24/7 is not healthy. make sure to mark 2027 for the 3.26 release, who knows what you'll be doing by then.
>>521480876It's been known that there are account level RNG seeds since Delve, anon.
>>521480683>no nipplesI don't know how to feel about this.
>>521480686I think both Chris and Jonathan wanted slow poe and Poe2 is THE VISION. I think Chris would probably compromise more but we also had like 4 leagues with archnemesis despite the hyperwailing of the playerbase so who knows
>>521481139stop posting attractive asian women or ill start losing iq too
>>521481174>who knows what you'll be doing by then.playing poe1 probably
>>521481139gib source
>>521481220I think Chris would compromise less. Jonathan has less of a backbone than him. A lot of the changes in this game recently are super reactionary.
>>521481220Guarantee the split only happened because Mark lost his shit on the two of them.
>>521481104>jobcheck>wifecheck>kidcheck yeah I'm pretty fucking HARD
jonathan criedpoe and mark died
>>521481041>the best defense is to just kill everything instantlythe game should not allow your character to kill everything instantly and maps should not require it, both of these things need to be changed
>>521481563Because...?
>>521481516>hard>not getting sucked by his wifeyou should be SOFT
>>521481563Sorry, that doesn't sound very meaningful.If the player can't die instantly then there's no risk.
>>521481409i mean this idea of poe1 and poe2 being the same game but not actually with different gem systems and 2 campaigns with a shared endgame system (but not really) etc etc was completely unhinged. if you take a few steps back you should immediately realize it would have never happened. i'm retarded and me and many other people in this general called that the games would end up split up well before they announced it.
>>521481041turns out you can't generate meaningful content randomly.
Is it a bad idea to grab the +75 resistances early on the smith?I really don't want to think until I hit maps, and this seems to remove any thought behind gearing
>>521481686No it's a good idea, it trivializes the campaign. Having capped res in the acts is actually pretty retarded, I don't know how the balance works out but you just don't actually take any damage.
>>521481660Are you retarded?The original idea would be the new gem system and then you do a different campaign depending on whether you picked the old classes or the new ones.There's nothing wrong with the idea, just the execution.
>>521481686campaign is balanced around 0 res, the first time you need above that is maps
>>521481686It's only useful at low level so you might as well.
HELLLOO MARK ROBLOX FROM GRINDIN GWEIRO GAMERBUG PEOPLE qwe3425 chonchun45353 ARE KILLING 100 BOSSES AN HOUR RIGHT NOW WITH RESSURECT ABUSEWOULD YOU LIKE TO FIX IT TODAY? OR HAS CHINESE TENCENT GENTLEMAN NOT MADE ENOUGH MONEY ON RMT YET????
>>521481850just because it's possible to run 0 hp and 0 res doesn't mean your average player could do it.
what build describes this scene from the anime hit Berserk!
Poe2 wont let me cyclone so I'm gonna cyclone in last 'poch
>>521479413I really don't get it. How does slapping everything with a blankey 50% nerf and increasing mob hp by 400% take 4 months to do? You'd think with that amount of time, their solutions would be elegant and they would have made a more interesting and nuanced game, but not even any of the new support gems have done anything to open up the game. They really are a dying company at this point.
>>521482064you can literally get hit by anything once even big attacks and spam roll and 1 and survive
>>521482208poe1 doesn't let you cyclone either
>>521480465based concoction seether
>>521482263he said last poch you braindead poe 2 player
>>521479746I think most people are just falling asleep
>>521482229>you can literally get hit by anything once even big attacksi got one shotted twice by doryani the other day, so certainly not, with decent res and some HP too.
you can't make concoction skills good because people would just use them to play the game
>>521480650Truly impressive that GGG spent an entire 4 months to create an archetype around bleed spears but a shitty strength stacking support gem entirely supplants it. Almost like it was a complete waste of time
>>521482426sorry you are correct, the big bonk is one of the few oneshots. there are a few beams that can oneshot you like jamiroquai and the golem that have places to stand behind. i guess you can get "1shot" if you get frozen by geonor
>>521481563that would be boring as fuck, just like the lukewarm campaign
poe2 ruthless when
How come From can get bleed mechanic right on their first try but GGG cant after 15 years?
am i dumb for just not caring about balance that much in ea? half the weapons are not in the game yet its going to be fucking terrible for years. poe1 has been terrible for years.
can someone make a poch general? i'm sick of being surrounded by these kiwi mouth breathers.
It's sp fvking over...just put leg in the op at this point...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPcUvTrslc
>>521482913From as in the Dark Souls from? Bleed is fucking overpowered in like every game there and is usually the one mechanic that gets nerfed lol
>>521482913Superior Nippon Game folded over 1000 times vs Kiwis that folded at the first sign of backlash
>>521481139ayo is z-ACK-ie back
>>521482551Don't say anything bad about GGG.What are you, a pocher?
>>521482913anon...did you forget how insanely broken bleed was until they nerfed it?
>>521482913>How come From can get bleed mechanic right>baby crutch trivializing the game>right
>>521482913fuck off. bleed is just fine in poe1
>>521481598because videogames
>>521480862Get a life you fat ugly loser.
>guys please play bloodmage it has 0% playrate and we need more datamaybe if they didn't nerf the one viable build it had into the dirt more people would play itor better yet give the blood mage some fucking blood spells
If I worked for jonathan I would kiss his ass a bit, agree with him excitedly, and then proceed to work 1 hour a day
do you think troonatroon made the game bad on purpose as punishment for poo1 fags rejecting the vision?>wahhh archnemesis is too hard>wahhhh you nerfed harvest>wahhhhh crafting is too RNG>wahhhhhh wheres my auction house??poo1 fags alienated chris with their gay behavior, and this is payback
mfw jonno is not only terrible at directing games but has no backbone and seethes easily
>>521483075That interview showed how bad jonathan would be at pokerCant hide a single emotion on his face
>>521483387>go blood mage>all spells now cost life instead of mana>bricks your character on first ascendancy
>>521483702better this than devs that will lie to your face, devs and game leads shouldn't be politicians.
>>521483718actually it costs both life and mana
im gonna change my lightning spear build to parry + fangs of frost with herald of icehow fucked up is my build gonna end up?
>>521483503with 0.5 hours in the toilet?
Should I get a higher paper pdps spear or lower dps on the 10% base crit base?
>>521483641>sperg made a game for himself and other spergs>didnt like when the spergs sperged out
>>521483826people that whine about this have never played blood mage. the mana costs in act 2-3 are low enough that they don't matter compared to the extra healing you get from globes. the mana costs only start to become a problem in late campaign / mapping.
>>521483008This dude is streaming poe2 from CHINA and attending a sponsored Torchlight event.Brown games for brown people being shilled to westerners by Chinkcent. Know who is paying for the content you consume /poegers/. GGG is not the wholesome chungus developer you once knew
>>521482918balance between weapons and classes doesn't matterbalance between skills within a weapon class and balance between enemies and players matters
ARPG scene is cooked.LET'S SEE HOW LOW WE CAN GO!back on Diablo Immoral.
>>521483387>want spell combos>add DD>don't add desecrate cuz reasons>now just automate skeletons walking around like retards until they walk into a mob so you can explode themThis is supposed to be fun action gameplay to GGG? Waiting on their shitty AI so I can press a button?
>>521483962>please PLAY poe2 and stop looking at other games waaaIt's afraid
poe2 good
>>521483954why would I play blood mage? why play witch at all?she can only descend
>>521483938>shit base>no attack speed>2d lmao
>>521467882Im glad you had a bad experience.
>>521481912i had that bug where i could kill a boss multiple times but i wasn't sure if it was reproducable
>>521483962>whitest playerbase is the industry >BUT BROWN PPL THO!shitskins WARPED you
>one year later and they still haven't added that much mtx from poe 1Where did that supposedly "we are creating both mtx simultaneously" go, these fucking faggots claimed years ago.
>>521482551this is during campaign only unless you're an absolute retard who wants to stack strength on a dex character, for maps you want to replace it with huge bleeds and use spearfield to supplement aoe
>>521483641LITERALLY the only reason there's no auction house is because GGG need whales to be able to show off their MTX or else people wouldn't buy as much of it.They basically have a 99% functional AH system already fucking set up and being used.
>>521483387>or better yet give the blood mage some fucking blood spellswhat a retarded fucking suggestion. It’s a good thing you’re not a dev
>five more days of spear chucking till the real game
>>521479413>People enjoy combo gameplay that's why they play poe2!>MFW at least 50% of players are using a single one button build
so how's the new warrior asc? fun?
>>521484115I dont care if you play torchlight. Or if you play poe2 or LE. They are all owned by chinkcent.It's all false choices and controversy to drive people into separate communities where they can feel "special" and become "super fans". They are polarizing you so you become sycophants. Either way the money goes in Chinas pocket
>>521484373ggg just needs to implement what some competitors have been doing - give ssf a large loot buff and add an AH for the autists that like trading in their arpg.
lmao at this chud delusion
slogbros, isn't it about time you stop posting and clock in, I mean log in?
I'm doing t15 maps and only got 6 atlas skill pointsIs there an updated way to remove atlas fog?I feel like the gameplay now is just bumrush those corrupted shits and ignore every single map
>>521484373just make it so you have to go to the person's hideout to 'pick up your order'. there can be an npc version of the player there if they aren't there themselves. this npc version of you would be wearing your current mtx
what the fuck is this????)))
>>52148448599% of the entire playerbase plays trade leagueTrading has been HUGE in ARPGs ever since d2.Its wild that people manage to gaslight themselves into thinking their afterthought playpen ssf experience is the "pure" or intended experience.
>>521484676retard, also reddit spacing and brown
>>521484668A belt listed by someone who apparently really likes HxH.
i'm richhttps://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Dawn%20of%20the%20Hunt/Rzy4dvas7
>>521484442Worst thing is that "combos" in PoE2 are dev mandated babby tier shit. Its objectively boring and less engaging because the skills have literally been designed to be played that way, and the devs then sperg out if you find any unintended interactions.>whirlwind 3x into disengageWhoah... Such big brain combo gameplay...
>>521484174Highest Pdps
i cantpath of dupepath of chinchong
>ssf but item drops are well rollednow thats would real game mode that people would play
do you think the travel tag will be removed from rake since its not even a true travel skill? it acts exactly like monk palms and those arent travel skills
What level should I be to do ascendancy 3
>>521484668pricefixer
>>521485173Overlevel to 80. The ascendancies are basically useless anyway.
>>521485173those areas have set levels, so that or more
>>521485173few levels before you get the key if you're playing a decent build, so right away
>>521483801>implying GGG didn't lie repeatedly
>>521485182or just a regular flipper, everybody's not evil.
>>521468190fucking finally someone else noticed15 years later someone fucking noticed
Why can't I get all the atlast points when cleaning a corrupted nexus that is way above the level I need? Why can't I just run a single T15 nexus to get all the points?
>>521485040you get what you deserve tradesissy
>>521484676>99% of the entire playerbase plays trade leaguebecause it's selected by defaultat one point SSF couldn't even be selected if you were using a joypad99% of players do not TRADE
>>521485578because then you could finish it in a couple hours :^)
>>521468190>>521485541epic samefag
>>521485173if you have honor resist relics then as soon as you drop the key
>>521485662nigger minority, keep coping
>>521468571i've fucked marcille's chatbot in the ass so many fucking times this face is the only way i can picture her in my mind
>>521485662The game isn't designed around ssf. Ssf may give the game practically unlimited replayability, but it makes that time spent playing feel like absolute ass. Gear is too scarce and crafting too limited to even try justifying 200 ingame hours to grind a 1 div rare
Jonathan won Doomfags lost You can’t do shit
>>521486131>I want loot>No I don't want to play the game to get loot, I just want loot>What do you MEAN "why do I want loot"?>I want loot so I can trade with it on the market of courseIsometric memecoins
We've gone full china now
>>521477821i will never get tired of this filename
>>521479413>Everyone hyped to be nostalgic amazon lightning fury>OMG WHY IS EVERYONE PLAYING THIStry harder retard
I CAN'T FUND ITFor all the hate some criticism is legitimate. I wish we had somebody with a brain who can string two words together tell Johnathan that the big maps feel bad BECAUSE i'm running my third fucking lap around it and still can't find the fucking objective rather than screech like a retard >HOW LONG>HOW MANY HOURS
poo2 was a prank that went too far
>>521486885imagine if we had out of combat movement speed
>>521480053>mark's legacythe man behind archnemesis?behind all the boss-focused buggery in poe1 and 2?nahfuck that bugger in the ass, too
I CAN'T FIND ITFor all the hateshilling some criticism is legitimate.I wish we had somebody with a brain who can string two words together tell Johnathan that the big maps feel bad BECAUSE i'm running my third fucking lap around it and still can't find the fucking objective rather than screech like a retard>HOW LONG>HOW MANY HOURSIt's not that big map bad, big map need signposting. >The Lost city>trail of gold leads to the forge>trail of shit leads to the Aprex Of Filth>nobody complains about the lenght.
>Throw lightning spear>Packs gets cleared 3 screens away>but le ebin rares takes 15 spears to die if the bolts dont ricochet on itEpic gameplay, its so tiresome
>1 exalt on my name>shitty ass resists and equips from acts>have to gamba my entire set because the game simply refuses to drop orbsI can see itMeaningful content
There are no good sockets to slap time-lost jewels into.
>>521487123didnt read your post
>>521487083>imagine if we had out of combat movement speedBad idea because then getting into combat would feel bad and you would avoid it at all costs.Having things taken away always feels bad, having speed taken away feels the worst, it's like the game is lagging. Johnathan definitely doesn't want to make you feel >Oh shit, not the mobs again !In an ARPGIdeally you just shouldn't ever be out of combat.
>>521486543There's nothing wrong with the thought process. SSF is a game mode where you get by on the item drops and crafts. This game is balanced around a 400,000 concurrent playerbase. Not your solo adventure.PoE 1 is great for ssf because you have so many methods and options available to you for either crafting or obtaining gear. This game does not. Maybe after 15 years and 40 leagues it will, but for now it doesn't at the higher end and it just feels bad.
>>521487123you sure it's not the room on the far right and you failed to click the doohickyanyway yea, procedural generation problems. Map layouts have no logic to them so you're forced to roam around empty areas looking for routes you missed which is shitspecial sprint effect which kicks in if you haven't used an ability or taken a hit in X seconds would be a solution
>>521487306thank you. It really helped.
Do you need to use a shield to have block chance in Last Epoch?
>>521487331POE1 taught arpg players that packs should be instantly erased and maps be traversed at 3000mphFor GGG to go full reverse on that is ridiculous
>thread dead as fuck todaycare to explain?
>>521487331too late, encountering white mobs feels like a chore already.getting perma stunned and surrounded is frustrating and annoying.
>>521487412>you sure it's not the room on the far right and you failed to click the doohickyno it was this >>521487306
>>521487301The game is badBy design
>>521487568We are all waiting for le poch
>>521484123this image summarizes every single friend i ever tried to get poe1 into (and ofc failed)in retrospect, fuckers were actually smart and avoided a lot of pain and bullshit down the line
>>521487561No, but you won't have much block effectiveness without one, so your block will not prevent much damage. There's a few other sources of it (passive tree, some skills like warpath, some random items), but shields are the most reliable
>>521487568Last epoch's advertisement budget was only so much, please understand
>>521485689try again, bozo
>>521479413Still not as bad as d2 sorc
>>521487306kek that anon is a retard
I tried sleepoch for about 30 hours last year and it was complete dog shit
>>521487573>too late, encountering white mobs feels like a chore already.Did you try fucking killing them? If you're getting stunned you fucked up somewhere. If you're melee - hit them and explode the fucking packIf you're ranged - they should never reach you in the first placeIf you're trying to run past all of the shit - you're playing the game wrong. Before you say anything I cleared the campaign as the least popular skill on the least popular ascendancy and it was only marginally horrible. Right now i'm playing chaos witch and it's literally blasting the fucking screens >poison chaos bolt>contagionYou get it BEFORE the grelwood werewolves. You don't even need Essence Drain to start blasting. Watching Alkaiser clips didn't look slow to me either. if you're struggling - fix your build, not the game's issue.
ahhh help these white mobs are killing my minions and then they're gonna kill me!!!!
Is crossbow better than lightning arrow
>>521488273I have close to 600 hours in it, but that's PURELY because I was going through some shit and using it to distract myself.I agree. Very surface level, shallow game, no complexity, dogshit feeling end game, basically no build variety despite the meme of being able to do what you want with skills. The game is also jank, and likely will never NOT be jank because of engine limitations (e.g. terrain collision issues still being a thing)
>find the gems being used by less than 1% of the player base>find the gems being used by less than 10% but more than 1%>Find gems seeing more than 40% use>buff the fuck out of the first>buff the second meaningfully>Nerf the third>do this until nothing is above 40% and nothing is below 1%So fucking hard, please understand we need 6 months to do nothing but buff monster health
>>521488573Yeah even d2r felt less jank and it's based on a 25 year old engine
>>521488273i think i actually played sleepoch longer than poe2that's so sad i now i feel a little dead inside
Do sanctum debuffs carry to the next floor?
>>521488608We are looking into this.
I played poo of excrement 2 for 5 hours this league
>>521488896i played it for 5 minutes (not counting the tutorial)
>we are introducing 100 new uniques>and not a single good one
>>521488349If you're trying to run past all of the shit - you're playing the game wrong.It’s mostly this. People still think they can get away with skipping whole packs on a fresh start with shit gear like in Poe1. I swear people never learned from 0.1
>>521489062Chernobog's Pillar
>>521489062there's plenty of good new uniques like icefang orbit, you're just not using them.
>>521489062>SPOONFEED MEEEEEEEEEENo
discord trannies won
>>521488608The skill use percentage has little to do with power. The community is just dumb. >Witchunter gota massive buffs>ascendancy entirely focused on zooming and blasting>some streamer said he's bad so nobody touched it>complain that the campaign is too slow>neglect the blasting ascendancy because it doesn't have broken pinnacle builds>moan about the white mobs
>>521489087skipping mobs is a staple of arpgshell, it's even a staple of traditional roguelikesthe fact that jonathan doesn't get this concept is enough for me to know poe2 will always and forever stay a piece of trash and never be good
>>521489328>The skill use percentage has little to do with power.absolute cope
poop2? Still bad.
>>521489410it's true though, people are sheep and will play whatever streamers are playing and/or is easy to play - looking at you RF.
>>521488349>Right now i'm playing chaos witch and it's literally blasting the fucking screenssame and its not that fun.
>try to make "meaningful" (slow combat)>people play the builds that are the closest to poe1 builds (full screen clear)whats going on in lil jonathans head?
>>521489635slow combat>breach>delirium>expedition>ritualwhats going on in your head to make you think poe 2 was designed to be a slow pace game?
>>521489328>Witchunter got massive buffsit will always be one of the worst ascendancies until they rework the damage nodes. It provides pretty much nothing that can't be achieved in other ways or done significantly better by other classes. Also Sorcery Ward is still clunky as fuck and basically requires you to go Cloak of Flame. It's a shit ascendancy just like the rest of Merc's ascendancies.
the only thing i expected from poe 2 was closing the meta and off meta gap but they just made it much worse than in poe 1
>>521489328Again with the witch hunter shilling?The culling doesnt make a fucking difference, stop trying to make it a big deal
>>521489384Notice how I said “with shit gear”. So upgrade your fucking gear. You CAN figure that out in a game that’s balanced around trading, right?
>>521489328what's witchhunter going to use that already isn't being used retard?
>>521489384>not playing the videogame is a staple of arpgsyea I've read this thread before
>>521466525>>that the campaign is balanced for a player with 0% resi was floored when he said that. If you have 0 res you will literally lawnchair, maybe it isnt 75% but not fucking 0%Reminder he also said that armour lowers the damage of poison, when poison is based on premitigation damage
>>521489879>whats going on in your head to make you think poe 2 was designed to be a slow pace game?could it be the removal of all movement skills? or perhaps the fact that they've slowed down the game tremendously and outright stated they dont want the one button screen clears from poe1?
>>521490117tbfh I always beat the campaign with shit resists then worry about fixing them in maps
>>521490019>So upgrade your fucking geargear doesnt drop>game that’s balanced around tradingand thats why LE is better
>>521489572>skill use>mentions an ascendancyYou are retard
>>521479317>who said this?>>521490117
>30 maps>5 exaltsThis drop rate is crazy what the fuck did they do?
>Melee lightning spear attack has a combo while ice attack doesn'tFeels like GGG favours one over the other and put ten times more energy into lightning attacks. Every fucking melee attack should have combo.
>>521490331didn't say that
>>521490385
>>521490019>>521490115i can tell these two retards>never played hc (not even once)>never played a traditional roguelike>farm transmutes in poe1>are zoomer tourists who never played d2
>>521490127there are several movement skills in the game and a lot of one button screen clears. you are just making shit up.
https://poe2db tw/us/Tencent_Inventory_Expansion_4_to_5hmmmm
>>521490448Now you know how it felt to play lightning monk during 0.1 when everything favored ice monkAlthough with spear, its even worse a skew
>>521489902>it will always be one of the worst ascendancies until they rework the damage nodes.Top end power doesn't matter when you're struggling with campaign. WHO FUCKING CARESWH can fucking destroy the campaign and the maps with Zealous Inquisition. Since the herald nerf it only gone up in value. >The culling doesnt make a fucking difference,Culling strike does MASSIVE difference when your projectiles have pierce and chain. Each mob gets hit once and basically you're exploding screens with attacks on ZERO INVESTMENTYes yes yes, you could accomplish that on other class with several expensive uniques like the chill shatter ring. But WH does it day 1 for free. He is the perfect league starter.
>>521490385now if it was only poe1 and that meant 1 exalt/min
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3458157220The amount of brown trannies unironically celebrating a complete MURDER of a skill and character is insane... what causes this?
>>521490535>a lot of one button screen clearsthere isnt a lot of builds much less a lot of one button screen clear buildsbut I digress. Look at the build diversity and you'll see people are playing the builds that are the closest to poe1 builds.Why does poe2 exist?
>>521490104>what's witchhunter going to use that already isn't being used retard?Clearing the SLOW AND BORING campaign with chain mob explosions day 1 for free without reliance on gear. Whit mobs are too hard? WH is specialized in clear.
>>521488074newfag samefagger IE alert!
>>521490852holy shit doomers are mindbroken lmao
>>521490659Anon you are retarded, any build can clear screens naturally on its path to being complete, what you are basically trying to sell is>LOOK HOW THIS ASCENDANCY CAN *CLEAR SCREENS*!>All other builds can also clear screens? Oh but their screen clearing for sure is worse than MY screen clearingRetard
>>521490804brownness
>>521490804Thumbs up. Spark deserved to die. Should thave been aborted before the release instead. Spark was the worst thing about POE2 because it's powerful and boring, encouraging the players to have a boring time.
The campaign takes way too fucking long.
>>521490873>>521490659I was clearing screens with galvanic sharts on act 1, no ascendancy for that, so...
>why does poe2 existIn Jonathans words, poe1 had become too complicated for new players.Essentially poe2 exists because poe1 was too difficult
>>521490505I can tell you breath through your mouth
>>521490127Why do they push endgame into that direction then?
>>521490984Literally everybody is screaming how the game is bad because they can't clear screens and it's slow. Amazon is probably responsible for the doom wave because she has a slow and difficult start. >muh free crit ascendancyCrit is usually the last thing anybody scales so naturally all of her power comes late. WH is and easy starter, and nobody even tried - that's my point. I'm not saying WH is end all be all best class, but it's faster and easier to level than chaos lich.
>>521491148It's not a wrong reasoning considering that anyone coming to the game was greeted with "watch tutorials and follow a build guide" for literally anything. It's hyper retarded to rob yourself the experience to things on your own and it defeated the game's purpose entirely. And here we are, with people being absolute brain-dead retards who can only follow guides for the smallest things in the new game.
how many patches will it take to return gem XP to the game?
>>521491148>why does poe2 existTo surpass and exceed stale and bland poo1How is this even a question lol
>>521490659>culling strike makes a massive differenceLiterally how retard? It culls at 30% mob hp. That means you are doing 70% of the mobs health in one hit. Even without cull you only have to hit one more time. Miss the 30% threshold? You will have to hit again anyway. The only area cull matters is bossing, and it's 5% in 2 whereas it was 10% in poe1 and people would just attach it to any shit skill with a support gem. You can kill groups of white mobs with literally any other ascendancy so much easier not sure why you're shilling a shit ascendancy.
>>521491472>mostly negative
>>521491381>Literally everybody is screaming how the game is bad because they can't clear screens and it's slow.Yeah, during day 1, we already moved on from that long ago, unless its shitters who can't beat act2 jamanra or shit like that>WH is and easy starter, and nobody even tried - that's my point.People tried it, last patch, the culling didn't change how it calculates damage, its still not a significant increase to clear speed, it has been measured already
>>521491581>EA steamtrannies
>castaway map with a +100% gold keystoneyep...we're gaming..
>>521491581>mixedjust like you cutie.
>>521491381>>521490873okay WHAT SKILL is WH going to take advantage of better than other ascendancies retard?People are screeching the game is bad and slow because it is visually and interactively slow. Killing mobs in one hit doesn't change the speed of the actual gameplay
the hardest pill to swallow is that poe2 is simply a dogshit game, way worse than poe1. but poe1 is dogshit as well. make of that what you will.
>>521491739and you - positiveHIV POSITIVE LMAO
I dont understand how adding stomp alone to rake is better than 5 bleed support gemsCan anyone explain this?
>>521491756>okay WHAT SKILL is WH going to take advantage of better than other ascendancies retard?Fragmentation rounds with Ricochet and acceleration. You hit every enemy on the screen more than once, decimate cull and explode with one attack.
>>521490505>new game should play like old gameAnd you wonder why EA content wasn’t made for you fags
>>521490804>88% tooltip DPS nerfs>that doesn't take into account amount of projectiles nerf>mana cost nerf>etc.Holy shit, spark got like x20+ times worse, axed to an unplayable skill tier. Subhumans at GGG responsible for balance patches should be unironically fired. Every single one
Poe1 is the greatest ARPG made. And it pains me they delayed 3.26 multiple times for this bland pile of shit they call poo of excrement 2
>>521492095I squeak in joy whenever one of you 1tards cries lole.
>>521491852poe1 is bloatedpoe2's gameplay is bloated
>>521492194Dilate tranny!
>>521492194same its why I come here to farm pootard seethe inbetween maps
>>521492095poe 1 was great, they powercrept the fuck out of it to the point where it feels like d3. everything is completely streamlined now, from league start to afk ubers it's like 3 days /played max.
>>521490228yeah but you aren't running 0
>jonathan acting like a bumbling idiot in order to provoke endless long form discussion about how to fix his game wherein he copy pastes the highest rated feedback into his slack group and fucks off for the daydon't forget you paid for the privilege
>>521491991every chaining projectile skill does that. Show me you doing a T15 map
>>521492095Their biggest mistake is not outright having the balls to say>so poe1 is gonna be dead, poe2 is a direct sequel 1:1 no vision shit, no direction change, we just gonna make it poe1, but newerInstead they went with a textbook>we want both games to coexist :)Statement ever and had to try to modify poe2 enough to make it different from poe1 even when the foundation is entirely poe1
>Ziz is shilling LEIt's over for GGG
>>521492525How did GGG fumble this hard...
>>521492326>from league start to afk ubers it's like 3 days /played max.for who? For someone playing it for the first time, or mazed autists who have micro-optimized their trees to the nth degree?In Phrecia I peaked at low red maps on a selfmade. Did manage to kill Cassia though, so that was neat.
>>521492401>every chaining projectile skill does thatYES ANON but only WH has the access to decimation, culling and explosion for free day one. >Show me you doing a T15 mapI'm not playing WH this league. Last league i did and it was an absolute breeze. Since then it got only buffed, straight numeric buff to Frag Rounds plus more support gems.
>try to recombine>fail>try to recombine>fail>try to recombine>fail
>>521492467>we want both games to coexist :)they have to, if tomorrow poe2 fails they have poe1 to fall back on. if there's one thing corporations are is risk averse.
>>521492525>quick chat, give me literally ANY VIDEO, i have to react to it Quin is literally stalling insted of playing poo2your response, rollslop trannies?
>>521487357believe it or not, the game is actually balanced around the garbage items that droppoo1brains are addicted to broken interactions enabled by specific, expensive, rare items. they actually think they're playing path of exile, when really they're just addicted to exploiting the flaws that appear in every poe league
>>521490127there is literally multiple interview of both Jonathan and Mark saying the end game will be more like poe1
>>521492824>tfw even a hopesissy like Quin said "do not play PoE2"It's beyond over
>reddit spacing>johnny argumentBack to your cubicle rimming johhny.
>>521492778>9% chance>successnow I'm off to use 4 exalts for useless mods
>>521492787Ironically enough, it would have been much safer to do >poe1 but prettierthan whatever the fuck they are doing now
>>521492893>balanced around the garbage itemswow that sounds fun!!!
>recombinator and expedition shops STILL can't pull the currency from stashTROONATHAN
What's with GGG limiting the amount of projectiles that can be left on the ground by shit like storm lance? Like who fucking cares, the skill does dogshit damage with only 3 spears, Why not allow a max of 10 or some shit?Actually I don't even know why i'm asking. I know the answer. Its to force combo gameplay with detonation skills.
>>521493087>2 apsholy crap>inb4 light radius mod
monkey has wares
>>521493283>no flat accuracyinto the trash
>artillery ballista doesn't detonate gas grenadesFor what purpose??
>>521493360>accuracy>reduced attributeOh man what a murder
I have 350 store credit and I dont know how
>>521493368it is not a detonator, you'd think any fire explosion would do eh? but ya, it doesnt
>>521493368That would be against the vision jonathan has for this game
>>521493458you bought early access anon i think that's 300 points by default
>>521493232>explosive spear>limit 1 lodged spearlollmao
>>521493739Yeah bro that 135% attack damage explosion following a basically unmodifiable 2.5 sec fuse duration is really OP lol
>>521493739>meanwhile lightning spear can paint the screen blue with bolts
>>521491257To force you to kill shit fast and create frustrating tension that incentivizes you to swipe your credit card at the Chinese currency shopsRemember, the mobs being fast and overwhelming you doesn't make YOU or the ganeplay fast. Tou still have the temporal bubble effect around you at all times
they killed the goats bros
Hopesissies won...
>>521493739you VILL generate ze frenzy charges
>>521493932retard
>>521493978this
>>521472519that could be your final weapon, unironically
>>521493901>2.5 secand there it is, the core issue.if anything is alive after 1 second, your build is shit.
>>521494167>tfw somebody over at GGG spent time coding a skill for tactician that have a 40 second cooldown, and takes about 8 seconds of animation, to do the damage 3 weapon attacks does.Why are these skills that are obviously shit not getting buffed instanteously.
Ngl bros I just watched the 'poch update video and it actually looks pretty fun. I don't mind the cartoony artstyle.
>>521472519where are you getting the int, bro
if ggg had any soul left... giant's blood would let us dual wield crossbows a la borderlands gunzerker
>>521493975how long till he troons out
>>521494464why do you think he never turns on his camera?
>>521493975>benwhy do you even care what this faggot has to say?
>>521492893Wow, who knew that in the genre based around item hunting, people wanted to be able to find powerful and unique itemsQuite insightful my dear anon, really havin a think here
>>521494167a 2.5 sec fuse would be fine if there were actually ways to properly reduce it, like with Merc grenades (or at least before they nerfed their fuse length lmao). But there's basically no fucking way to reduce skill duration in PoE2 barring 1 support and then a handful of incredibly spaced out passives on the tree
>>521494654>that in the genre based around item hunting,What genre?
>>521493368Totems are a 1-button gameplay athlete that Jonathon doesn't like. That's why he made them slow and useless. Oh give them combo play and interesting interactions? Not in the vision sorry
>>521494710kart racers
>>521494659pretty much the only way to do it is play titan and stack the small nodes on the tree. it's really fucking dumb
>>521494049He's not wrong xir thoughbeit
>>521492326???its always been like that, in fact, it was even faster back then until twitch trannies complained you got to lvl 100 too fast and destroyed xp gain after lvl 95retard tourist
>>521494630this anon is certifiably SOFT
make you rown general lost epoop trannies
man maps hit hard with my melee amazon. Evade stacking is the way to go?
>dawn of the hunt mystery boxbloated with different variations of shit
We live in the last epoch of poe
>>521495069Life and maxed out resists.
>buffs for huntress, ranger, sorc and sometimes warrior every single patch>meanwhile mercenary, the one class with the shittiest ascendancies in the game (after chuddhula) left ignored due to <5% presence in the playerbaseNice balancing GGG
>>521494438Now THAT would be a cool vision.
>>521488608Does Lily live in bong land
>>521494710Wolcenlikes
>>521495036>its always been like thatyou couldn't even metacraft until 4-6 days into a league years ago.
>>521493232I've just looked up detonator skills and what the fuck, are there only a few that actually count? Not counting minions or something that requires a corpse:>Explosive Spear>fucking 2.5s delay>Explosive Grenade>3s delay>explosive shot>xbow>detonating arrow>bowAnd that's it.Holy shit.
>>521495192I have about 1200 life and 20ish res. lets hope my 12 EX are enough to get it sorted
>>521488608Where's your arpg armchair dev?
Will people pay to open the gold strongbox in t15s? I don't have 2 million stocked yet.
>>521488608>nerfing solely by playrate
>>521495410>2.5s delayyour frenzy charges from parrying...
>>521495769Personally I'm working on the enemy pathfinding AI in mine not that guy though
>what do you mean chat, i like poo2>literally prefers watching goats eat grass
>>521495876if half your playerbase is using one skill then it might be a bit overtuned
poch is surging...
PoE1 when? PoE 2 bores me after running 5 maps
>>521496137wait til the 17th sister
>spearfield>enemies HAVE to move onto the spears for them to do any damageWhat a fucking dogshit design oh my GOD what is fucking wrong with them
>>521495295you didnt play back then, you just watched streamers rush league starts
>>521495207There's literally nothing wrong with Witchhunter. People are just brainlets.
i miss poe1 crafting so much
>>521496112not what you said
>>521496261lil gup doesn't know about master rotations lmao
>>521496220They've gone too far in "trade off" design direction, and they're afraid of making payoffs actually good. Tbh, the only enjoyable payoff skill they made so far is boneshatter. There is tons of support and ways to achieve the prerequisite (stun buildup) and the skill itself is powerful and you can scale it. I'm surprised they haven't nerfed it desu.
>>521496220>Why does this ability have soul, flavour and novel utility instead of just bouncing around the whole screen and killing everything when I press a buttonYou are a soulless number grinding automaton and when we win the AI war I hope you will be 'decommissioned' by mistake
>>521496269Okay witchhunter anon you made it clear you love armchairing for that shitty ascendancy because you could clear white mobs with it
>>521496269nothing right with him either. all he's got are a few conditional more damage multis, reduce enemy cast frequency (lol), very bad unscalable ele defence node and muh explosions. he's just lame as fuck.
>>521495842>poorfag
What global chat has people selling ascendancy carries
>>521496685HARDEST poo2 player
>>521496685SOFTest poo2 "player"
>>521496604You're an actual fucking retard even if you're shitposting ironically
>>521496604yeah it’s actually epic sovl for a skill to be trash and do nothing
>>521496137HAHAHA EPOOP LOSTTHE LOST EPOOPLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFEELS SO GOOD
>>521496832>Why does this game have 500 skills when it only needs to have Red, Blue and White Lightning arrows? When will GGG make fire attacks chain?
>late to league start>realize there's no point in starting because 'poch update in 5 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8yfKJji60QALKSISSIES WE NEED TO TALK, WE CAN'T LET RHYKER DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT WE BUILD UP!
>>521497036This anon is certified SOFT>>521497127This anon is certified HARD
>>521497127>Gamers>filtered by path of kino 2 campaign
>>521496971>spearfield is trash and does nothingLook at this FUCKING RETARD
>>521497265>t.
>>521496654And how's that any different from most other acendencies? Also, Sorcery Ward is scalable and very good. Conc break and cull+devastating are all good. Boring? Maybe you can make that argument from a purely armchair standpoint but gameplay is the same as everyone else.>>521496608Sorry to disappoint you that I cleared all content and every +4 boss in 0.1 without using HoWA, Archmage, or CoX.
>>521497424Do you want a prize or something? Anyone did that, even acolyte of chayula
What is the point in reporting bugs?This shit is still not fixed since january>captcha: DOGGShit
>>521496971retard
>>521496269its a bland generic ascendancy with lower numbers than the best ascendanciescan you play it as a deadeye with 20% less damage and 20% less ehp? yeah, theres no reason for it though
>recoup life also recoup estesting this new unique now, seems okay for an extra defensive layer, if you build around it600+es chest piece probably still performs better, but this one is cheap
>>521497106That's exactly the position I'm in. I'd rather shoot around pubg than late-start pooper2, only to be disappointed even more.We're 'Poching in a few days, my brothers.
Uhhh can i get some support gems ffs
>>521497952There's like 200 in the game bro take your pick :)
>>521496442>start late so league is properly patched>farm voll cards in merc dried lake>lvl 90>switch or upgrade build>chaos convert+poison fotm spell caster>farm uber atziri>endgame reached>"huurrr durr he don kno abaw muh master rotas for crafter npc gameplay"stupid fucking retard
>>521498038kek took you long enough to google that lil gup
>>521497802you’re a double fucking retard
>>521497769There's a unique hammer that expressly states slams caused by the player aftershock, but it works for totems, and iirc its still bugged all these months later
>>521497951I'm gonna 'poch with 'evourin' orbyou?
NEW THREAD >>521498562>>521498562>>521498562>>521498562>>521498562
>>521498158keep donating in larry's stream so he calls out your name, non-player character