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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8589 - Cross Breeding Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
ENG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIhfo2X0oI
JPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoDsexw0NM

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 6 | Vector, Espio, & Charmy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxYkmbmDAr0&ab_channel=SonictheHedgehog

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsmlVv0Tw0

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>537149767
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Silver!
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real!
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Crossbreeding thread on the 'log
Blobians were bvilt for humans!
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>>537198179
>My ancestor
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>jazz finally returns to sonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz6b8N08rCA

Thank god, I thought it was gone forever.
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>japan thread
>everyone in there complaining about performance
>suggest PC
>they’re bringing up how the game isn’t out yet and the PC version already has people cheating
>mention PS5
>everyone responds with 草
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>Amy
>Tails
>Even Knuckles
All Babylon Rogue casualties. In fact, they're their ONLY casualties. Sonic's buttbuddies really got done dirty.
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CrossWorlds dialogue datamines:
https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c (EN)
https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp (JP)
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ALL HAIL CHADOW
HEROES RISE AGAIN
OBLITERATING EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT YOUR FRIEND
NOTHING CAN STOP YOU NOW.
NO GHOST TO BRING YOU DOWN
NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE
YOU WIN
BOW YOUR HEADS DOWN ALL HAIL CHADOW
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>>537198179
We... we were free. It was over. What have you done??
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Is the Evan larper going to be in this thread too?
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My man Yasuhara.
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>>537198274
>IDW Uwuver but Japanese
Cursed
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Apotos is a dogshit track, I get fucked frontrunning there more than I get fucked in the dead center of the pack in a full 24 player lobby in MKW. I have no idea what they were thinking with those hallways tighter than a virgin's anus
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Amy is FUCKING DEAD.
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>>537198693
Unfortunately uwuver is a huge reason he's popular right now. Women can't get enough of that soft guy shit.
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>>537198693
Despite what /sthg/ would have you believe, there is a subset of Japanese fans (mainly fujos) who LOVE IDWilver.
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>>537198656
Why did I read "Seattle conviction center"
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>>537198179
>not new animation or comic OP
Failure of a fandom!
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>>537198339
Just a Shadamy yume power fantasy: Shadow would never canonically have a crush on her.
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>>537198738
Why two eyes
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Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same...
Except you don't exist?
Everything functions perfectly without you...
Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me.
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>>537198693
But a thousand times more better, since their uwuver is actually cute and wholesome and fun to look at, westerniggers uwuver is just a gay, retarded and annoying.
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This is your reminder that Rouge being flirty is a Sonic X/Battle invention, and thus OOC
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>>537198526
>PS5? wwwwwwwwwww. 草 even.
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>>537198550
Was Knuckles' death even shown? Same for Silver. They just disappeared at some point
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I have a confession. I have a deeply perverted ship. Straight nasty. But I can't help seeing them together. I'm a sick fuck, I know.
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>>537198274
>>537198693
>Right as the western fandom start rejecting Uwuver more Japanese fans start embracing it
Grim. I still say they give Silver a kid sidekick with this personality as a consolation prize.
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EXCALIBAR!
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>>537199341
TWO CONSENTING ADULTS???
AAAAAAHHHHHHH
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I don't even feel bad, he got an animation and he looks so good.
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>>537198738
>>537199185
That's not Amy
That's Bark's secret daughter
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>>537199317
Knuckles didn't get the impact frame that Tails and Amy got.

It was like he wasn't even there really. He should've stayed on Angel Island.
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>>537199185
They... have two eyes? It's art style thing.
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>>537198526
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Anyone want to play the Crossworlds demo but is unable to?
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>>537199185
>no monoeye

fake amy
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>>537199547
He jobbed to WATER

H 2 0
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>>537199317
Look closely at :17-20 in the webm. That's knuckles. Literally turned into fodder.
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>>537199547
His expressions and design are right. Unlike the last time he was animated.
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He really loves her, huh. Wonder how that makes her feel.
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>Sonic was never a cocky relatable teenager. He was always a free spirit who just did as he pleases
>Shadow was never the calm and collected counterpart for Sonic, he's a seemingly alien and alert person with an almost machine-like exterior
>Rouge flirting openly with Knuckles was something Sonic X just made up
>Sonic fearing water is just something Sonic X just made up
>Sally was literally a slut like her detractors once claimed, not a calm and resolute lesbo
>People ship her with her own daughter for lgbt brownie points now
>Silver was never a cute softboy
>Amy WAS a rapist in Sonic X
>Cosmo was not in love with Tails, a magic spell forced her innocent crush to become true love
>Surge is fully able to resist the urge to kill Sonic and just seems to hate him for reasons that wouldn't exist outside the comic
>Sage is EEVILLLL and wants to KILL PEOPLE


Still keeping track of things
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>>537199578
Sonic's friends got treated poorly man...
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CrossWorlds is kinda fucking cancer.
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Douge
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>>537199971
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>>537198582
Poopdow Fatigue is literally so real
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>>537199832
He came in 5th place. He did pretty good
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Eggdad is horrible and you shouldnt support this
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How long until scans are available?
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>>537200249
>lust provoking image
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>>537200251
>[delusions] is literally so real
Nobody can get tired of Shadow. There is NOT enough Shadow in the world. We need total Shadow domination over this franchise
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>>537200249
and then she fucked sonic
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>>537198274
>>537199512
Was just about to say. Silverfags better pray that doesn’t catch on in the JP side otherwise it’s actually over for good lol
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EAT MY DUST POWER RACERS You aren't catching me on this board!
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>>537200268
He lost to Rouge and Eggman.

And people try to put him up with the GOAThogs.
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>>537200249
Knuckles love interests in goo
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>>537200352
So what is ABT’s end goal with this character? People barely like her so is he just hoping that she’ll get a lewd fanbase?
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>>537200249
she's so cute

people don't realize how cute rouge is
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>>537200436
Nigga you just want an entirely different franchise, just say that
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The sad truth is that there three types of people who hate Uwuver.

>Actual Silverfags
>People who do not differentiate IDW from canon and just hate Silver BECAUSE of Uwuver
>People who believe OOC in official material is an unforgivable sin

They are outnumbered by the people who LIKE uwuver.
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JETBROS IT'S NOT FAIR HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOP 3.
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May we talk about rolling rascal here and have races together in the demo?
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>>537200878
Where does Archiver tie into this?
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And some said Shadow wasn't overshadowing Jet as his Racing Rival
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Gentleman, how we feelin' about the Adventure era reclaiming the soul of the franchise?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REgPvq7sn9o
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>>537200979
honestly archie silver was the beginning of uwuver but he doesn't actually portray a lot of personality traits. He flew under most peoples radar.
He's mostly remembered for the panel of Sonic dragging him across the city and throwing him into the side of a hospital bed.
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>>537200843
I want a franchise were CHADow is the coolest and gets a lot of screen time and plot relevance. so he can be cool and edgy
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>>537199887
>>537199578
Knuckles got fodderized by the Phoenix.
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>>537198339
This is how Shadow treats Amy in comparison to Rouge lol >>537198738
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>>537200882
The disrespect he gets is gross.
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>>537200725
You're honestly thinking about some end goal of Lanolin's character when Sonic is an ongoing series
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>>537200725
She is his dress-up doll.
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>>537201204
Iizuka...
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>>537201153
People love his arc with Jani-ca and Enerjak though. Or is that forgotten now?
>archie silver was the beginning of uwuver
This is true, yeah. Leave it to the fans and haters to exaggerate his depiction culminating in Evan actually shoving it into official media.
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It's funny how Tails is the character who most cleanly dodged the shitty friends purge and the next few games made sure he was a shitty friend too
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>>537201204
You must be 18 years old to browse this website.
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>>537201832
Why does he have the cleanest victory dance though?
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>>537201405
I mean what is his intent for this character to be going further when the majority don’t like her.
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>>537201649
Pair the spares
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Crossworlds Shadow and Rouge interaction, Japanese, translated:

"あら アンタにあたるなんて ラッキーだわ\n同じチームのよしみで 協力しない?"
Rouge: "Oh, I'm so lucky to have you! Why don't we work together as a team?"
"断る 手を組むメリットがないからな\n君に背中をあずけるなど 笑えない冗談だ"
Shadow: "No. There's no benefit to teaming up. Entrusting my back to you would be an unfunny joke."
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>>537201236
wasnt that jet? also Shadow didn't have any powerups at the time to do something similar? you retard or something?
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>>537201627
That arc is like satbk where nobody ever talks about anything other than the climax
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>>537202057
Does anyone know her victory theme name?
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>>537202254
AMY NOOOOO YOUR ANKLES
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>>537201971
The majority dont like her because they are idiots
Nothing you can do about that
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>>537202193
OOF
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>Lanolin got into porn after career with Sonic secondaries failed
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>>537202254
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>>537201832
>>537202057
>>537202451
KINO. Love these three so much.
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>>537198274
REDEEM MY BOY
STOP MAKING HIM JOB, SEGA
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>>537202254
Ames piss stained white panties
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>>537202608
Everyone jobbed while Shadow was the main character
Nothing you can do about that either
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>>537202220
>Leaves her to the dogs but actually helps Rouge
lol
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>>537201405
Shadow had an end goal, according to Maekawa

Shadow really feels like a character from another series that somehow ended up in Sonic
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>>537200035
The actual truth of the matter is that every single character in this series has changed wildly in personality from game to game and adaptation to adaptation.

Some autists are just obsessed with the idea that their favorite specific incarnation of one character is the one true one and spend all their time trying to convince others of it.
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>>537202193
LOL shadougefags btfo
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>>537202842
This is literally just Zero from Mega Man.
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>>537202842
>Shadow really feels like a character from another series that somehow ended up in Sonic
This is exactly why he's so popular.
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I hate how this general is obsessed with trying to get rid of Shadouge. Feels like a bunch of zoomers just adopted the opinion of some purist because they think she knows what she's talking about
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>>537202858
Sonic is Sora, who was never the originally chosen Keyblade Wielder but ended up with one anyway. Everybody else got a Keyblade.
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>>537202782
because he had no power ups for that neither? you retar or something?
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>>537202890
The voice line referencing Follow Me was as cringey as you’d expect. There is no quality control when it comes to the lines and voice acting, holy shit.
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>>537202842
Why the fuck would he return to a capsule after Omega locked him in one of them in Sonic 06
And it was a capsule that prevented Shadow from saving Maria
What
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In times of Shadow fatigue, be a TailsChad
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Don't open unless you're wind-pilled.
>>537200352
I need it so bad.
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THE RIVALS ARE SO HARD TO BEAT.
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>>537203098
no
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>>537202440
What do you think is in ABT's hiddenLanolin stash?
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>>537202997
Speaking as a neutral party, it’s because of the way they want Shadow to act with the other characters. One moment he’s treating her like shit (TSR annd the recent IDW comic) and in the next he’s helping her.
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>>537200878
It doesn't matter as long as the official media gets him correct. Evan and all the IDW artists are on track with him, the only official person pushing Uwuver is Ian with the dopey polite personality he thinks Silver is supposed to have.
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If I see you on a board I'm gonna run you down, I don't care if I lose I'm just tired of metatards
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>>537203231
Literally aura farming
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>>537203343
>t. Zazz
wow Zazz said something right for once?!
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>>537198274
Can an actual Silver fan explain to me what his appeal is supposed to be if uwuver isn't it? Without that he just seems like the dullest Poochie in history.
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What is the point of power types? They seem the worst
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>>537203041
He doesn’t go out of his way to help her either like with Rouge and Sage with Eggman lol
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>"My own clone..."
>"Now neither of us will be vir-"
HOW WILL AMY OR IAN FUCK UP TAILS' LOVE LIFE THIS TIME?
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>>537203514
>Without that he just seems like the dullest Poochie in history.
Ding ding ding ding

you got it
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>>537203327
Very cute
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>>537203343
>Meta
I just like Riders, bro.
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>>537203514
Not a Silverfag but all I get from them is potential man stuff desu “he could’ve” but never did
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>>537203098
I'll be a Tailschad regardless
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>>537200725
I don't think he shares the same goal as Evan does. Not that I disapprove, it's his character, he can do whatever he wants outside of canon as long as Sega doesn't get pissy.
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>>537201146
It's more just like "we haven't made theme songs for most of these characters SINCE the Adventure era". And we've been jacking off Adventure era nostalgia for 20 years already. I won't be happy until they release a full NEW, non-rehashed game that captures the spirit.
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>>537202997
It's mostly done out of spite because of a certain somebody
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Notice how in the last game Shadow accepted that he has to let Maria finally rest and in THIS game he protects Rouge with everything he's got. It's almost like she matters to him and is a key part of him moving on.
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>>537202974
Silver IS a character from another game, but ST just doesn't seem too into making him work like they are with Shadow or Sonic
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>>537203573
because he had no power ups to do anything duuuh? and she didn't really need it. Rouge would have sunk in that water or blown up to bits. you retar or something?
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>>537203327
Go! Go! Go! Foxboy Go!
>>537203274
I don't know why but people who dislike Tails just come across to me as some kind of retarded nigger
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I'm having a lot more fun playing SRCW than MK:W desu. I don't understand the negativity towards it when it's day and night compared to what TSR was.
Doing spins and tricks in mid-air to gain boost is infinitely more fun than grinding in every fucking thing resembling a rail to go faster.

Still gonna wait for the game to be on sale to buy it though.
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Idk why did they implement rival dialogues in a fucking kart racer
Wasted potential really, I would like to hear something like that in a fighting game
You know, like Mortal Kombat does
It's be spicier and more personal
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>>537204186
Movie Sonic is genuinely kino when he's not telling shitty marvel jokes
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>>537204267
>Idk why did they implement rival dialogues in a fucking kart racer
To appeal to storyfags without actually having to waste resources on a story

it worked btw
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>>537202842
Classic fans unironically shot themselves in the foot. Had they not whine about Modern Sonic and the lack of Sally, Shadow would have eventually disappeared permanently from the franchise akin to Tikal/Chip/Marine instead of just sticking around for the "LOL I'M A EDGY EDGELORD" meta humor.
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Can someone explain to me what the fuck is up with the way Flynn and Stanley write the IDW comics? Why do they insist on turning everything into some kind of overwrought, serialized drama? The only other time the series has been this focused on cheap melodrama was in the asinine Archie and Fleetway comics.

And don't even start with SatAM. That show had stakes, it had a war, but it wasn't this constant, drawn-out soap opera bullshit. It knew what it was.
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Nigga Tails is just regular Tails
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>>537203063
maekawa got a thing for capsules. 2000s Shadow was all about sitting in a capsule or having some identity crisis
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>>537204482
They insist on also making Sonic's world as boring as possible.
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https://youtu.be/4W3Q11jPXkg

Part near the end here was rough enough for me to ragequit the game. But I'm proud of myself for finishing the "crushers" Hard Mode and the "spiked balls in the sewer" Hard Mode tonight. Normally I don't like these kaizo challenges like the Unleashed extra stages but Shadow Gens is good enough to keep me coming back.
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>>537202974
>>537204417
Shadow is popular because he played like Sonic while the usual cast got dogshit tech demos. He would've stuck around regardless.
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>>537204482
After reading scrapnic I realized that I unfairly judged IDW. Its not really about the comic itself. Ian and Evan are still stuck in Archie land. Specifically these two.
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Shadow is just Sonic with a backstory
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Sonic Crossworlds?
More like
Shadow Crossworlds
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>>537204662
Url is broken.

>>537204742
Did Post Reboot have such a boring world?
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Does anyone else ever feel like Movie Sonic was Sonic created backwards from Shadow?
Fowler acknowledges his work on shth in the commentation for Sonic 1.
We have it established that this Sonic has chaos powers, that he lost the life of a girl he cared about deeply and that he lives every day by her dying words.
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Shadow is just Sonic but with Trans allegory
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>>537204798
Sonic is just Shadow without a sobstory.
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I wish we got the level of animation that Hesse provides. These flashy animations on Dark Beginnings and now on the Crossworlds animation are too cheap
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>>537198274
Hate that guy
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>>537198550
Surprised Jet got taken out so earlier. Figured since he's kinda Sonic's "racing" rival, he'd have been one of the last to bite it or something.
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>>537205043
And that's why Sonic can't hold a candle to Shadow. He doesn't connect with their hearts.
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it's the busty biiiitch!
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>>537205139
Sadly Jet isn't as popular as Shadow so instead of actually marketing him for his big return they went the easy and safe route and rode Shadow's meat for the millionth time
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>>537205130
Someone should commission Silver having sex with the cyber cunny while Eggman and blaze watch now i am demanding it now go
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>>537205262
It's not Shadow's fault that the Riders games weren't popular
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>>537204995
>Does anyone else ever feel like Movie Sonic was Sonic created backwards from Shadow?
Yeah, they made Sonic a sissy faggot to compensate for Shadow's lack of a personality
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I didnt know I needed Silver v Sage in my life but now I do
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Stop seething just because Shadow is more interesting than your fave
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>>537205393
shadow fucks both sage and blaze, while silver watches
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>>537205502
literally the Sonic Crossworlds theme song starts with "Shadow" first word first line
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>>537205502
it's ok to like the creator's pet character
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>Gerald and Shadow
Love relationship
>Robotnik and Sonic
Hatred relationship
>Sage and Silver
Neutral relationship?????????

How would that work
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>hating on Shadow
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>>537205406
I'm not saying it's Shadow's fault, I'm saying that the spotlight should've been given to Jet not Shadow. Literally the whole point of Jet as a character is that when it comes to racing he's the only one who can challenge Sonic. But no let's give that to Shadow instead because propping up Shadow is a safe investment. This entire game is extremely safe
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>>537205704
Silvage is hate-sex relationship
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>Xitter shitting on the Crossworlds song lyric dialogue references for sounding unnatural
>Ian: "...Nah, I'll just triple down for the next game."
You CANNOT stop this man. Remember that. The late 90s and 2000s where we would get different writers depending on the game, like Nishiyama, Maekawa, Battle writer, Yoshimura, Iizuka, Miyamoto, etc.? Those days are OVER, baby! It's ALL Ian from here on out! What? This is what you wanted, right? One guy to write everything?
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>>537205704
Silver knows that sage can be reasoned with unlike EGGMAN but she still is ultimately evil and will inevitably continue the eggman empire
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>>537205729
This ain't Sonic Riders, this is Sonic Racing.
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>>537205502
Fuck off, how is Shadow more interesting than Jet
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>>537205704
Sometimes they oppose each other, other times they take on mutual threats.
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>>537204798
Shadow is just Iizuka's donut steel

If there's ever another Classic Sonic game, I hope these characters show up
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>>537205729
>extremely safe
I mean.... gee, I wonder why after 06, Sonic Boom, and a volatile fan base...
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>>537205879
Which promptly featured the extreme gear as a major gameplay addition, and was also touted as Jet's return
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>>537205925
>How is Shadow more interesting than green daffy duck
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>>537205925
Jet ism't interesting at all bro, he's just funny because he makes Sonic seethe.
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>>537205996
>the mutual threat in question
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>>537205836
>This is what you wanted, right?
IIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN
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>>537206012
What is picrel?
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>>537206051
No one cares about Jet, it's just another racing spin off.
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>>537205729
>Literally the whole point of Jet as a character is that when it comes to racing he's the only one who can challenge Sonic.
Racing on Extreme Gears. I would have loved Jet to make Top 3 but he sadly picked the wrong fight too early.
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There's this Sonic artist who draws Nicky like an abused rape victim child, my God is it hot. I'm guessing she's a female
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I always liked the idea of Silver being a hero but still being more neutrally aligned, i feel like if he had no other option he would still kill Sonic to save humanity
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>>537204417
But Classic fans hated Shadow. They wanted Sonic to be cool, and saw that Shadow was taking that coolness away from Sonic.
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>Silver and Sage
Silvaze owns both characters sorry guys
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>>537205419
Sage is kinda like a mix of Shadow and Blaze but more innocent and curious
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>>537206332
They were right, because Sonic hasn't been cool since.
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>>537206227
And he's fucking riding an extreme gear in the animation. If anything that should've given him an advantage over Sonic

>>537206226
Again it's this mindset that infuriates me. Dude there are many ways to make something more popular. It's because of this mindset that many cool elements of this franchise have been shelved
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Why isnt Sally in the game
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>>537206348
Its not a sex thing its a rivalry thing
Also sage wants to kill blaze too
>Blaze: "I did not think the doctor was capable of loving anyone. Seeing you gives me hope he might mend his ways."

>Sage: "Father is fine the way he is, and once we've successfully conquered Sonic's world, we will move on to yours."
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>>537206502
Anon didnt post enough pics of her breasts when mods were asleep so iizuka ultimately decided to cut her from the game
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>>537206502
Soon brother soon..
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>>537202997
I'm flattered, but I'm so reviled that'd theoretically have the opposite effect. Nobody is trying to "get rid of" Shadouge, but I won't let you spread false information about the character I love.
This >>537202193 is official current year Shadow and Rouge dialogue.
>>537204001
Shadow will always hold Maria in his heart and love her. If you accept this, you won't have your perception of him repeatedly shattered by official media.
>"voice_sha_ready_movie_last_to_cha_rival": "こんなヤツでもこの星に住む生き物幸せになる「チャンス」をくれてやらねば…\nだが結果は別だあきらめろ"
>Shadow: "Even a guy like this must be given the 'chance' to live on this planet and be happy... but the outcome may be different, so give up."
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>>537206465
SHITnic stopped being cool the moment Shadow left. Because oldfags wanted the FAT FUCK Scrimbo Bimblo Sonic who has no dialogue.
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>>537206536
No I'm saying you won't get anything cool with Silver and Sage because you have to include Silvaze.
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>>537206202
Nobody knows. It was in Sonic Origins' art gallery without any context and the only thing that confirmed about, per Oshima's twitter, is that Iizuka drew it- and even he seemed kind of uncertain.

When and why is unknown; but it's a really nice picture.
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>>537205564
Shadow doesn't have a dick tho
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Fueling the silvage fire, shes a hologram, one of the few things silver cannot grab and toss away with his psychokinesis, perfect excuse for why he does not just kill her on sight
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>>537206352
There's nothing innocent about Sage, that bitch knows what she wants and is all in on achieving it for her pops, she's Bowser Jr without the goofy incompetence her and Metal Sonic are gonna make for a really annoying duo in the future especially if they let him be Neo Metal Sonic that's completely loyal to Eggman like in IDW where he reaeembled the egg fleet and turned into Master overlord just to find Eggman before being content to conquer the world in Eggman's stead and gift it to him once he finds him.

Think about it, Eggman with Neo Metal Sonic and Sage actually makes him more of a threat than he ever was before because those two are competent only losing because of plot convince they outfought and outskilled Sonic and his friends entirely
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>>537202193
>>537206846
That just means Shadow doesn't like getting pegged.
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>>537205704
Silver hates her future version, but tolerates her present one cause she's a kid.
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>>537207028
Who said he had a choice?
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>>537206927
Wow that's so cool, I've never seen it before

The way that Sonic's quills were stylized clearly influenced how Shadow looks. Also weird how Sharps was still around. Dunno who the raccoon is, probably an oc by Iizuka. Tails looks like a rabbit lol
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Counterpoint: it would be really funny if silver biggest opp in the future was a small child
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>>537206846
>official media
Game was made english first sorry pal.
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>>537206536
Sage basically told her to clutch her ass and depend on her friends while she's in her world LMAO
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>>537205729
I'm fine with Shadow having the spotlight. I just think they could have Jet surviving the chaos neck-in-neck with him until they get to Sonic, where Jet finds himself the ignored third-wheel until he's knocked out.
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Where are all the extreme gear players? I was told you fuckers were strong but all I see down here in rank E plus is a bunch of power shitters
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If you're gonna ship Silver and Sage you better use a future version of her you pedos
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May someone tell me the strength of power vehicles?
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>>537207429
Sage is a software she won't grow
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>>537207245
>sage is a annoying sonic fan that keeps asking why knuckles is not guarding the emerald
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>>537207468
Anon she's an AI, best things they do is grow
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Is Sage now going to be Egghead's main lackey now? I guess calling her "competent Bowser Jr." makes sense.
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>>537207195
Oh no, this guy expects me to take Ian's version seriously! Ahahaha!
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>>537206856
SHITnic stopped being cool the moment he opened his mouth to spout broken nigger slang and lectures about friendship
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Sage antagonizing Silver and Blaze is not the smoke I expected from this game but I respect it, I'm rooting for those two to teach this arrogant brat that not everybody is as soft hearted as Sonic
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>>537207128
The hedgehog figure in the middle may be a rendition of rival from this early S3 development sketch; but again, nothing has been confirmed. Maybe when Iizuka does another public Q&A, a fan will be brave enough to ask him about it.
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>>537207618
Eggman is growing his Eggbosses
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>>537207657
Sonic has talked ever since sonic 2 commercials and has been giving lectures about friendship since aosth
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>>537207195
>Game was made english first
and later scrubbed of western faggotry
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>>537207195
Not how that works. The director determines the canon script, and the director is Japanese.
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>>537207643
Weren't you the one coping about official media? LMAOOOOOO. You are basically using a mistranslation as canon. The Japanese mistranslated dialogue directly contradicts the animation, clearly not canon. Cope.
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Sage to Metal Sonic
>Sage: "Your rebelliousness should have been patched out. This aggression is an anomaly. After your defeat, I will analyze your coding."

>Alt: "You seem unusually confrontational. Once I have defeated you, I will analyze your coding to ensure your loyalty programming is intact."
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>>537207775
>alt-media garbage
play the games dumbshit
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>>537207534
>i brought peace to my world
Sonic mostly did that
>and i'm enjoying some time away
So terrible at her job
>do you wish me to unleash my full fury
LMAO! Blaze is such a shit character no wonder they don't use her anymore
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>>537207987
Sonic has talked since sonic CD in the games you stupid monkey
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>>537207861
>and later [HEADCANON]
English first.

>>537207917
>The director determines the canon script
Which is the English one, as he directed it to be done before the Japanese translation.
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>>537207696
>I'm rooting for those two to teach this arrogant brat that not everybody is as soft hearted as Sonic
>expecting flynn's writing to lead to a payoff
Shitver and Laze are going back in the vault for the next 7 years after this game
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>>537206348
Who's the "aze"? never heard of a character like that
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>>537208154
and lectures about friendship since:
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>>537208154
and he had the good sense to keep it to short clips like mario
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>>537207696
Blaze wouldn't do jack shit but stay in her coal dimension, Silver is only who can stop her if she had any clever ideas.
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Blue hedgehog Sonic.
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>>537207657
>SHITnic stopped being cool the moment he opened his mouth
He wasn't cool before opening his mouth. He was lame and used as a meme just like Mario. Nobody takes Mario seriously.
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>>537207185
Do you think Sonic should have a Zelda-esque fated pair. Should each "Sonic", each of the SSS, have their own "Robotnik", and should each "Robotnik" be part of the same family?

I feel like it would be too restrictive, unless each Robotnik had a different role/relationship with thier respective Sonic. So maybe Sage could be helpful to Silver in the future--sort of like a Brainiac 5 situation.
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Jet black hedgehog Shadow
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What's next for Surge?
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>>537208521
Well i doubt they are ever going to do another main hedgehog so i wouldnt worry too much about it being restrictive, however i would like if they said in lore that the fight between the hedgehogs and robotniks will go on
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>GOTY keeps prices fair
>SEGA thinks they can charge +60$ for kartslop
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>>537208637
the vault
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>>537208434
memes didn't exist yet, wankstain
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Some info from the Data mining
>Arcade version coming with crossplay as well
>Switch 1 will get a patch to allow you to unlock the framerate to hold people over until Switch 2
>Switch 2 eta looks like April 2026
>Crossplay prioritizes same platform and only pulls from other systems if people aren’t found
>game is programmed to just run with bots online if no one is found
>based on the speed the Super Sonic Speed is the equivalent of 160cc
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Sega is bad at villains look at who we got outside of Eggman

Witchcart and crew
Battle bird armada
Fang, Bean and Bark have never been antagonistic with Sonic in canon material IDW doesn't count now that they've ditched Fang entirely for being a dick
Zeti everybody hates their guts
Eggman Nega, only racists like him
Marauders under IX, Penders made sure we'll never see them again
Babalyon Rogues they're confined to racing games and even then thieves they may be they don't have the combat ability to fight Sonic or his friends like any other antagonists could

Then let's look at the one shot villains, Mephiles, Black Doom, The End, Infinite, that snake guy from the first Sonic BOom game, Erazor Djinn and so on, do you really want any of them back, hell even in archie and IDW none eggman villains suck ass the only archie villain people seem to give some small measure of fuck about is Scourge and only because he's evil Sonic before Sega started using Metal sonic and shadow was even created then archie ruined him by giving him green skin for no reason, claw marks across his cheast for no reason, a bomber jacket for no reason and shades he never wears for no reason, he looked like Sonic cosplaying as the terminator before he turned green and with it he looks even dumber
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>>537207964
fanfiction-tier writing
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>>537208657
>>537208521
Sorry i didnt read the last part of your post, yes i think sage should have a different dynamic with silver but still be antagonistic, gerald was not in a hatred relationship with shadow at all so its not like it needs to be like sonic and eggman
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>>537206927
Wait, Mr. Lizuka can draw?
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>>537208637
Definitely not Crossworlds lmao
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Their eyes glow when they see eachother. Reminder he still saves her after she "steals" his Boost.
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>>537208154
Classic Sonic speaks differently from Modern Sonic:
https://youtu.be/7r4Cfv-1mdg?si=ij8sSaI1EwZMzFj8
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>>537208868
Iizuka can write, design, program, direct and even draw. He's unironically quite talented
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GOOD NIGHT JAMMIN
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>>537208845
I could post a Shakespeare quote here and you would say the same

Your half-assed critics are irrelevant and you should die in a dungeon
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>>537207195
The people who actually make Sonic have more of a say than some fat Canadian fanfic writer.
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>bestie
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>>537206927
>Cowboy Shadow years before Shadow

It was foretold...
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Is...is the fandom tolerating him now? feels so weird
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>>537209050
>The people who actually make Sonic have more of a say
And they said English first.
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The fat canadian writer works alongside with sonic team
>B-B-B-BUT
Cope, it its in game it means it was approved
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>>537208770
What is Sonic Speed the equivalent of?
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Does Sticks like the circus? Is the circus so cute? Do you like clowns, elephants, ringmasters, and more at the circus?
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>>537209143
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
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>>537209208
Not only that but the jap mistranslation goes against the animation shown for the game. So it's clearly not canon otherwise it would have shown Shadow helping Eggman and Sage get rid of Rouge.
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Whats wrong with being a bestie? Dont tell me /sthg/ doesnt have a best friend
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>>537208839
>shitting on Scourge
>I'LL TAKE YOUR BAIT SO THAT I CAN FEED IT BACK TO YA. AND YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT

Archie had more villains whom were also good like Finetivus and the dark legion. the iron dominion. and in reboot there were Phage and Eclipse. there were also forces whom were not necessarily bad but were the antagonists of the plot.
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>>537207775
>Sonic has talked ever since sonic 2 commercials
This is literally false.
https://youtu.be/wYaAzBIvWl4?t=29
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If Naka, Yasuhara, or Ohshima weren't involved, it's not canon.
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>>537209218
Normal is 40cc, high is 110cc, Sonic speed is 135cc
Weird values to use but it’s probably because the tracks are designed for slower speeds
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fuck this, I'm going ot bed fuck all extreme gear users you bitches
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>>537209616
Bro, your Power build?
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>>537209606
>Sonic's racing game is slower than Mario
Sonicbros...I thought we were the fastest...
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Mario? What Mario? You mean discord highway Kart World?
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>>537208861
Would you say Sage's interactions with Sonic in Frontier was a good framework for Sage's potential dynamic with Silver in the future?
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>>537209606
I wonder how ring count changes this
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>>537209909
It looks like you start 5cc below the actual speed but maxed out you hit the true speed
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>>537209886
Sage wanted Sonic to leave the island, i want her dynamic with Silver to be more antagonistic
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>bustie
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>>537210026
Rough, all in on Boost stats I guess
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what is a "cc"?
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>>537209010
>Iizuka can write
no he can't
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Why is Japan getting a completely different script?
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>>537210143
Why did english speaking countries got a different script in the 2000s?
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>>537207931
You're silly, anon. Sonic is owned by the Japanese! But let's pretend you're right for a second. What about this?

https://arch-img.b4k.dev/vg/1740235349949.jpg
>Shadow: Rouge...What? Sonic wanting to meet with me was a lie? You want to know how the interview went!? ...It seems Rouge got me. I take back what I said...I can't trust her.

"I can't trust her"? Oh my. It's basically the same thing, y'know?
In a competition, of course he wouldn't turn his back to her. Not only do you fail to understand Shadow, but you fail to understand Rouge as well. She's just a piece of meat to be won to you, stripped of all personality to be a side bitch. The real Rouge is a crafty seductress who wouldn't have an issue playing dirty to get what she wants, and Shadow isn't an exception to this rule.
She knows she likely can't beat Shadow with skill alone, so she extends the "olive branch" of "teaming up"...but Shadow knows her, and he knows what she's doing. To be honest, he's giving her far more respect by refusing her offer than you are by pretending she's an angel.
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>>537209598
>the only canon sonic game since 06 is superstars
kek
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>>537204182
Keep coping lol
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It’s as if a thousand sonicfags cried out in anguish before being suddenly silenced…
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>>537210337
It also had to release on a SEGA console.
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>>537209598
Is a complete set necessary or can it still be canon with just one or two?
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>>537210112
iizuka wrote tails, knuckles and amy better with no dialogue than flynn did with an hour and a half of cutscenes
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>>537198738
>Shadow goes out of his way to save Rogue
>Sonic just leaves this bitch in his dust
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>>537209208
>>537209375
People who make Sonic > Ian's fanfic
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They’re really only doing 12 racers?
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>>537210521
Depends on my mood.
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Mobians orgasm by making out
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>>537209275
She’s so cute bros. We lost bigly.
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>>537210143
Because they don't actually care about Ian's slop beyond what they believe is marketable globally. They don't actually like Ian's writing and soon they'll find out neither does the fans.
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>>537210487
Also needs to be released in 1991
>>537210047
I spoke about what i wish for a silver x sage game here
>>537100419
>>537101040
>>537105596
>>537106931
>>537107718
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>>537207534
Sage dressing down Blaze is funny lol. She’s right too, since her fans would rather her stick in Sonic’s world rather than build up her own world without relying on Sonic to keep interest.
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>>537210456
No, what they did to my boy Jet was way worse.
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Is he trying to debate krack on Shadow?
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>>537210898
I'm old enough to remember when everyone loved Ian's writing and wanted him to write for the games.
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>>537211027
Dont let the schizophrenics hear this but i still do
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>>537210143
It’s always been that way. Compare TSR’s dialogue with Silver and you’ll see just how much uwuver has poisoned the west.
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>>537210909
You're joking around but honestly Sonic 1 was kind of the peak of Sonic. It's all downhill from the first game.
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>>537211027
I never did. I actively campaigned against it.
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Anyone else like bots?
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>>537210573
>Iizuka wrote Knuckles better
Superstars made everyone look good, except Knuckles

It's no wonder Ian felt compelled to try and rectify this with the Classic comics.
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For the love of God stop saying "the west" when talking about these things you sound like a pedophile with a syndrome of grandeur
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>>537199087
I just got here. What's the new comic?
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>>537210749
Thank god they are. MKW's 24 racers is a fucking mess.
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>>537211027
“Everyone” at this point I’m certain it was just loud archiefags and people who had only heard of the comics who didn’t know better.
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I hate most western Sonic things but I would mating press Sally Acorn
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The Japanese script for Crossworlds is so much better it's unreal.
>>537211245
Perhaps the west should stop wrecking the characters?
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>>537211148
you are saying "Sonic was never good" without realizing it
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>>537210143
It is?
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>>537211367
You are not helping yourself
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>>537211245
Then “the English side” you whiny faggot. I don’t care about east versus west arguing but it’s clear that they’re still divided with how they want Sonic to be portrayed and Silver is a hilarious example.
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>>537211382
Its the truth, not even sonic 1 was good, i hate that hedgehog
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>>537211245
The west is a perfectly normal term used by people in and out of fandom circles.
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>>537211027
Because people mistook Ian turning Archie's feces into urine as genius writing and thought he would save the video games since we were diving right into the Meta Era when he gained notability in the fandom circles despite clearly not caring about the games or its universe.
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Is this wet fart of a game SEGA’s response to CHADio Kart WORLD?
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>>537211265
Even Kirby is doing 16
I’m guessing it’s a limitation of engine or PS5 holding it back
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>>537211576
"The west" is used by pedophiles when they dont get the thing they want on their cartoons
Normal people read "The West" and think about cowboys
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>>537211382
Well I'm just saying Sonic 1 is the all time best selling Sonic game and its not even close.

There is also just something magical about that first game. Its very special.
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It's interesting; Shadow Generations' script was virtually the same between both EN and JP. Any differences were minimal.
Crossworlds' script is different between the two languages.

English (Sonic to Shadow) – "I didn't think you knew how to have fun. What's the occasion?",
Japanese (Sonic to Shadow) – "Hey! Shadow! Are you enjoying the race?"
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>>537211271
It was mostly from Archiefags, but they would brag about him to other fans who just took their word. Remember, the fandom was still feeling the effects of the so-called "Dark Age" and Archiefags promoted Ian as the guy who is "fixing" everything.
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>>537211245
>a pedophile with a syndrome of grandeur
that's 90% of the west's population
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>>537211027
Because when you compared him to what we currently had with Pontaff, yeah, people were begging for someone who "knew Sonic".

Unfortunately what we got was someone who "knew Sonic references".
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>>537211530
You guys need to update your baitslop, uwulver hasnt been a thing on the comics or games for a while now
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>>537211745
wasn't it bundled with the megadrive?
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JUST HEAR ME OUT
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>>537211586
Are you saying you'd rather have Pontac over Flynn?
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>>537211712
You're mad your headcanon isn't a thing, we get it, pipe down now westerner
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>>537209465
no they don't, that's why they're stuck here
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>>537211882
No. also imagine being down bad for chris
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>>537211905
What headcanon? Are you asian? You are also a westerner you retard
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>>537211771
Shadow Generations had Sonic Team very involved and Ian basically admitted there were parts of the script he didn't even write.
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>>537211897
Nta, Yes
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>>537211853
Yes. What a time to be alive.
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Thought you guys said IDW was joining the main games?
Where are they?
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>>537211770
You turned on Auto-Accelerate for maximum, copage, right?
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>>537212091
Whisper extreme gear was found in the files
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>>537211897
It's saying the Meta Era boosted Ian's rep since the games were lacking in an ambitious storytelling and characterizations.
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>>537211771
Sonic is so fucking boring in Japanese, jesus christ
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>>537211771
Maybe Crossworld's localization is aiming more for intent rather than accuracy, since it's just a kart racing game and not a serious, lore-heavy game.

The comparison you posted doesn't seem too different content-wise; both have Sonic facetiously asking Shadow "are you having fun?" in ways that probably resonate, ideally, best with their respective audiences.
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>>537212206
So why not be thankful for Ian taking us out of the meta era?
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>>537212238
>Sonic is so fucking boring
Full stop. The character you claim to enjoy never existed. Either you like Sonic or you don't.
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>>537212206
>>537212326
Ian is just a different kind of Meta so idk why people say we're out of the Meta era.
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>>537212031
Isnt that the the case for every mainline game
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Charmy vs Cream
"Yeah! Let's play! You and me! We'll drive around faster than fast! Leave all the grown-ups cryin'! WOO-HOO!"

"We should be using our 'inside voices'! And it's not polite to make people cry! Please try to behave!"

-------

"Whoa, what if we used these machines to play tag?! It'd be a total blast! C'mon, let's do it, Cream!"

"Charmy, no! That's way too dangerous! My mama always says it's not nice to get in everyone's way!"


Which of these two versions do you think is better /sthg/?
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>>537212238
>Sonic is so fucking boring in IDW, jesus christ
Fify.

Anyway, Sonic is supposed to be a regular chill guy, not some tryhard. He's supposed to be a cool guy by instinct, not effort. This is what the west doesn't get about Sonic.
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Is the movie the first time we see Shadow use teleportation without an emerald and his shoes as actual rocket boots?
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>>537211712
>Normal people read "The West" and think about cowboys
No they don't. Normal people don't care. I can talk to all my normie friends about that and they'll get it.
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>>537211771
>>537212424
If sonic was written in english how its written in japanese the shit eating gorillas from this general would start accusing ian of taking away sonic's attitude
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>>537212374
>>537212424
I'm sorry but the only reason this series still exists is because of the West and its influence
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If the story doesn't start with him relaxing by the beach #NotMySonic
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Sonic is the wind. If you can't accept that, then accept that you hate Sonic.
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>>537212238
I kind of agree, it's kind of funny seeing how Japanese Lost World softened Sonic and Tails' rising conflicts, which, for better or worse, was a central theme of that game's story.

https://youtu.be/fMpbRdbjjGA?si=rtECyrr9no4yrn1r
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>>537212510
>Is the movie the first time we see Shadow use teleportation without an emerald
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_Snap
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>/sthg/sister
>friends
Ok buddy
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Do you guys remember when Sonic x Shadow Generations came out, and people were comparing Amy's dialogue to her dialogue in the original Generations?
People were upset her love for Sonic was removed. Some were dogging on Ian Flynn, who rewrote the lines.

Guess what defense Flynnfags came up with? They pointed out some lines weren't changed. They praised Ian for keeping it the same.
As in, they made posts praising Ian for keeping Pontaff's dialogue in the game instead of writing his own dialogue. It got thousands of likes.

Because
Pontaff's
dialogue
was
better
than
Ian's.
By the admission of Ian Flynn's own fans.
How embarrassing.
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I hate Sonic
I love Sonic
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>>537212574
Sonic was relatively fine in the west post-SoA's classic fanfic era and pre-Meta Era.
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>>537212776
TSR has better dialogue than Crossworlds.
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>>537212670
The ways of his heart are like the Sun, actually.
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>bad writing :/
>bad writing, Japan :0
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>>537212735
The conflict was retarded, It should've been removed entirely. Such a dumb attempt at drama.
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>>537212794
The dialogue was still not 1:1 in this era. Also Japanese people don't even like Sonic.
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>>537212402
The English dialogue sounds more awkward In English than the Japanese dialogue How did this happen?
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>>537212238
Japanese can get pretty boring when translated literally. The actual language relies on cool sounding words and affectations that can be very plain when directly translated.
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>>537212238
No, no he isn't. You simply mistake genuineness for shallowness and snarkiness for depth, like the plebian you are.
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>>537212794
This post is incomprehensible
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>>537212402
Most of the races are outdoors why In the Sand Hill is cream talking about inside voices?
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I didn't like Pontaff, but they were less offensive then Ian Flynn who goes out of his way to distort and influence the canon and characters with his personal headcanon and Archie obsession. I think the ONLY character who suffered from Pontaff was Tails, but as far as I'm concerned, nobody working on the franchise really cares about thus character, and I know Tailsfags are gonna lose their shit from me saying this.
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How do I get the super transformation that da donpa was talking about
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>>537213004
Sonic needs more disembodied voices saying the names of moves and powerups
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>>537213043
Hes boring and you are gay
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We've finally reached the "Pontaff was better" stage and I'm just loving it.
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>>537213161
By buying the game retard
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If Japanese Sonic is "boring" than what Sonic is "interesting"?

And reminder that citing IDW or Archie automatically makes you lose the argument.
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>>537213126
Wrong
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I know I'm going to get flack for this but I actually think by the time heapasonic racing came out Pontac and Graff had managed to Get the foundation on how to write the main Sonic cast in comedic situations.

I know this will be an insane thing to say but I think both Eggman and Amy are far better handled by those two than Flynn OR Stanley.
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>>537213312
Archie Sonic was interesting
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I never had a problem with the game writing but I guess I am not a "true fan"
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>>537213228
More like Pontaff was the lesser of two evils. When I wanted them replaced, I wanted a step up, not sink lower. You mean to tell me Pontaff was as "best" as we were gonna get?
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>>537213206
>boring and gay
just like this thread
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>>537213206
A truly interesting and cool guy doesn't need to force condescending quips into every single sentence. He's naturally cool. He just...is.
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>>537213312
IDW Sonic is interesting
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>>537213228
The final redpill of this general is that we hate whatever we get. No one actually likes the series, they just like gatekeeping it.
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Hello /sthg/
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>>537213126
The more I read from Ian, the more I come to think I treated Pontac and Graff too harshly.

They at least admitted they know nothing about the franchise and wrote for a more family friendly tone regardless of characterisations, whereas Ian consideres himself a scholar on the Sonic series despite also ignoring characterisations to fit in his melodrama. I'm sure his out of place references and song lyrics dialogue are just his desperate attempts to show people he knows about the franchise. Like, "See, look at this niche references I made, I'm clearly very smart!".

For all their faults, Pontaff never lied.
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>>537213228
As someone who likes comedic Eggman I think they made him a memorable character.

And as for Amy they still had her keep her attitude. She got to be much more snarky. Though this is less them writing her that well and more so that Flynn has failed so hard.
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>>537213396
And you lost the argument.
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>astroturfing thread

>>537213502
Looking back in history.... yes
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>>537213475
If he's so interesting, why don't his games sell in Japan?
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>>537212935
Probably, but it was still a major part of the games story that the Japanese dub poorly glosses over.

It's genuinely, an "Amy is actually Sally Acorn"-tier revision from the Japanese side; and if ST was that uncomfortable with this story element they should have instructed Pontac and Graff not to build a narrative around it.
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>Pontaff was the lesser of two evils
No he wasn't
>Pontafd wasn't that bad
Yes he was
>I actually prefer Pontaff's writing
No you don't

You dont believe that, i don't believe that and the person reading this also does not believes that, you are just saying it for trolling and astroturfing purposes.
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pontaff were never directed to write a serious story so we never got to see what that would be like
the serious parts of colors were great
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>>537213653
If Sonic was so interesting in Archie... how come it was never sold in Japan?

If Sonic is so interesting in IDW... how come it took until this year to finally wrap up the Metal Virus Arc there?

Hmmm.
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>>537213228
Pontaff sucked, it's just that Ian pretending to be a lore master makes his equally bad writing seem even worse. Pontaff always said they knew nothing about Sonic so while that doesn't change the final product it did set our expectations
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Amy: You do much driving Princess, or do you have a chauffeur?
Blaze: Are you mocking me, Amy? I will have you know driving is one of my many skills.
Amy: I hope so, I'd hate to make you look bad out there.
Blaze: Ha! Let's go see who ends up looking bad.

This interaction alone tells me our previous head writers understand how to write Amy more than Flynn.
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>>537213758
Wrong, they wrote the best line in Sonic history.
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>>537213807
There are more countries than Japan
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>>537213758
>IDW character in image
Post invalid. Your comic sucks worse than anything Pontaff shit out and that's saying something.
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>>537213807
>how come it was never sold in Japan
Archie was advertised in Japan?
>IDW
no one seriously reads that bro. besides tumblr shippers maybe
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>>537213807
That's not really an argument. A lot of stuff wasn't released in Japan. Sonic X season 3 took three years to come out in Japan and it was via streaming
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If our lore masters Sparky and Violet say that Pontaff was better it is all over.
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People are unable to come to grips with the fact that Sage is evil.
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>>537213941
Your seethe is not gonna bring Pontaff back
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>>537213832
Ian is basically the same as them. He uses the wiki for his knowledge for the series, the same as Pontaff, yet promotes himself as a "devoted fan". He's a fraud.
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>>537214092
I disagree Eggman was memorable under them.
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WHO CARES ABOUT JAPAN THEY DONT EVEN PLAY SONIC
>b-but what about muh glorious nippon
THEY DONT CARE ABOUT SONIC
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>>537209192
More like I'm bored of complaining about him. If he ever shows up in a mainline game again I'll complain again.
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can i see some proof that this violet person you all keep talking about understands sonic
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>>537213758
we have reached levels of copium that are unheard of
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>>537214226
They make the games. It's their franchise. What does the west do for Sonic nowadays? Ship a lemur and a wolf in a gay relationship?
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>>537214248
Sure uhh it is hard to find their posts but uhh they talked about Sonic a lot so is there any topic you want to see them talk about?
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Guys what about the bosnian opinion about sonic
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>>537214226
It's sad. Weebs genuinely think the Japanese have some sort of higher taste on media. Which is funny because they don't give two shits about Sonic which would mean that Sonic is bad according to their logic lol
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>>537208637
Getting absorbed by the next big OC villain
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>>537213312
Define "interesting".

I think the issue with Sonic is that he is a video game character who's mostly designed around gameplay rather than story.

He's a Simon Belmont rather than an Alucard.
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>>537214387
they think he wouldn't support kosovo
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>>537214335
>They make the games. It's their franchise
Yeah, and they were shit until they started actually listening to the West more.
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Shadow choking on his own tentacles
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Sonic needs realistic depiction of panic attacks
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Ian is destroying Sonic public opinion on Hungary this is a emergency
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>>537213581
Pontaff were ass yes, but remember that they were following the directions they were given. SEGA genuinely thought Americans would like the meta era shit because they got shat on so hard for being serious in the 00's. Pontac and Graff were genuinely just doing their jobs. They didn't pretend they were experts at all. They weren't cited as a genuine source of Sonic information. They weren't liars. They didn't passive aggressively complain about Sega and the characters they made. They never shifted blame onto Sega for all the shit they got. They weren't obsessed with social media, pandering to social media, or with injecting their personal politics into the franchise.

Pontac and Graff were preferable to Ian Flynn. There, I said it.
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>>537214524
Listening to the west is how we got the Meta Era, so that's a self-own right there, lol.
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>>537214390
>Japanese have some sort of higher taste on media
most anime and manga are slop. I say that as a weeb
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>>537214335
Lmao this. Everyone would be gay or lesbian or trans if the west faggots had their way with the franchise.
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>>537214546
kitty!
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Ghosts of the Future is unironically good. I think you should all give it a read.
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The west is going to DESTROY our wholesome uruguayan hedgehog, we need to put a stop to this once it for all
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>>537214671
Explain how.
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>>537214671
From what I saw it looked unnecessarily edgy. Also I'm not a fan of Stanley's meaty artstyle
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Best Sonic game whose main mechanic isn't running?
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>>537214729
The story arcs (except for the last few) rap up satisfyingly.
It adopts the format of Sonic going from adventure to adventure even though he is bound to Silver.
The characterizations ARE off but it's a fanfic so who cares.
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>>537214816
Spinball
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>>537214546
Elmo changed colors.....
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>>537214816
What do you mean exactly
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>>537213653
Failure of the Mega Drive in Japan.
Sonic is ONLY, and I mean ONLY, a household name in the West because of the Classics. Without them, we would be nothing. And since the Mega Drive never sold well in Japan, neither did Sonic, and Modern Sonic has never been able to recreate the huge impact the original Classic trilogy had.

It isn't that Japan doesn't like Sonic. It's that they don't know who he fucking is because they failed with a console launch over 30 years ago.
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>>537214671
I've read it. It's boring. Also the characters are always barefoot in it. Evan is weird.
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>>537214838
It never really wraps up storylines it just kind of forgets about them.
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>>537214935
I guess games that explore different genres like Olympics and Battle
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>>537214983
Japan loved Sonic Adventure, though.
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Tails is cute
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Look at Cream's eyelashes they're free like the wind
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>>537214536
Shadow's tentacles becoming controlled by Black Doom
Shadow's tentacles raping his own tight hole
Shadow's slutty moans as his tentacles cum inside himself
Shadow's dick spurting ropes from self-rape
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>>537203514
IC Silver has a lot of different traits that could make him entertaining but Sega doesn't lean hard into any of them. He is naive and ignorant to many things(that wasn't just a TSR thing there are glimpses of it in 06 and Rivals), he's emotionally explosive, he's extremely honest and straightforward to the point that he can't tell lies, he's rude and aggressive similar to 90's American Sonic and he's an over the top anime character with endless determination. Again, Sega almost never leans into any of these and just keeps repeating how young or positive or Trunks he is which led to uwuver.
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>>537214983
I disagree. Modern Sonic has been around for 27 years at this point, and a lot of modern stuff did well commercially. Attributing all of Sonic's popularity to the classic games is disingenuous especially since during the Saturn era Sonic completely died with the cancellation of X-Treme and was seen as a fad. The modern redesigns were made to revitalize the series and it worked despite heavy criticism from older fans who stuck around

So if Japan still doesn't care about Sonic, is because they simply don't. There's no further explanation.
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>>537214995
>Also the characters are always barefoot in it. Evan is weird.
i don't know what you're talking about, anon
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>>537214983
>Failure of the Mega Drive in Japan.
Okay, but he's been multiplatform for over a decade. If Sonic is so good in Japanese why is he still not selling?
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Tails
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>>537215349
Movie 3 would not have done well if this post was false.
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if sthg is so good, why people keep leaving?
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>>537214995
Evan definitely has a foot fetish.
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>>537215530
Her actual fetish is ghosts.
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crossworld gadgets do fucking nothing.
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>>537215294
https://files.catbox.moe/c3a6tg.jpg
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>>537215150
Correct!
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>>537214816
Sonic Labyrinth(Walking/Spindashing)
Tail's Adventure
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>>537215449
Racism
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>>537203514
Uwuver can't be taken seriously like Sonic and Shadow, especially the latter. IC Silver is supposed to be taken seriously since he's more hotheaded and less of a pushover.
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>>537215449
Hard to have a discussion here without some schizo being annoying, and everytime you point that out they get mad at you
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>>537215603
Shadow yumis is it true?
Does Shadow really have painfully sharp barbs on his dick?
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>>537215449
I don't think anyone claims this place is good
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The IDW fandom will drop the comic entirely if Silver is portrayed in character
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>>537215061
Then it's probably Battle. It's a different genre and not speed oriented
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>>537198578
Omega has the funniest dialogue by a mile

And the JP version is fucking trash compared to the US one, much more neutered.
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hello?? is it safe to come out?
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>Umm, all I'm saying is...
uhh fuck Tails
umm fuck Ian Flynn
uhh fuck Archie
umm fuck Sally
uhh fuck Slashy
umm fuck Pontaff
uhh fuck Erafags
umm fuck Doctor Eggman (completely unethical scientist)
uhh fuck Niggers
>and finally umm fuck Jannies and John Hammond
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>>537215616
He's cute cute cute!
Hi Tailsbro

>>537214816
>>537215061
Probably Battle or Murder, but I haven't played most of the spinoffs other than those
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Why does Sonic keep losing more and more character traits every time a new rival is made?

Has anyone else not noticed this?
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>>537215603
I came to this once
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>>537215941
Could you elaborate? I don't see it

>>537215940
Oh hi there
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is sonouge week over?
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>>537209192
The staff is settling on a consistent personality and voice for him now.

Silver has been easier to understand now.
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>>537215812
Nobody reads the comic already.
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>>537216225
I do
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>>537215910
¿Eres una chica zorro? ¿Dónde está el chico zorro? ¡Me debe una! Lo encontraré....
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>>537216040
it's that throat action
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>>537216359
Que??
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>>537215941
CENTER MOUTH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>537214546
I truly loved the puss in boots movie, I wish it didn't became this meme
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>>537216596
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA #SEGA #SONICTEAM #FBI HELPPPPPPPPPPP
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CrossWorld drifting feels like complete fucking ass and I can't get a handle on it.
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>>537209192
IC Silver just needed better voice direction to work in English. The previous takes made him sound either whiny or like a kid. They undermined his character to emphasize how young he is.
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>>537215603
Black Doom should rape Shadow with his alien tentacles while simultaneously fucking with his mind, making him desire nothing but to be a good meat-vessel for his father's eggs. Shadow's glazed over unfocused empty eyes as he is forced into becoming a pathetic whore for Black Doom, his willpower drained, his sense of individuality lost. He thinks there's something important he should be remembering, but it keeps escaping his mind as the combination of both mental and physical rape prevents him from thinking about anything but being filled and becoming the perfect host. Sonic walking in on this
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>>537216359
Dime dónde está el chico zorro de dos colas y color amarillo naranja, y nadie saldrá lastimado.
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>>537215910
No.
>>537216359
Why is honey speaking spanish now?
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>>537215349
>So if Japan still doesn't care about Sonic, is because they simply don't. There's no further explanation.
SEGASonic and Fighters did well in Japan. People literally already told you the explination and you keep ignoring it. Most SEGA IPs are niche in Japan because the consoles are niche. Stuff like Yakuza and Sakura Wars is the exception to the rule. IPs that are known typically made their debut on something that actually sold in Japan, or are an IP that SEGA didn't make.
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>why isn’t IDW being integrated
Because the Japan and most of the world don’t know these characters
They might as well reintroduce them and ignore the character development (the little that exists) from the comics and treat them as new characters
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>most of the world
Brazil here and they sell IDW here (they only sold Archie in the very early beginnings of the comic)
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>>537215150
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>>537215616
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>>537215940
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>>537216105
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(me)
5

Why it doesn't feel natural to have this many tailfags?
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>>537215941
>>537216105
Sonic was already a rival for Mario, so as Sonic's own rivals pile on top each other, Sonic is left looking more and more like a bitch (i. e. Mario) from the contrast
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>>537217052
They sell them everywhere but no one buys them and they’re so far behind on translations.
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Sonic? That blue thing from Smash bros?
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>>537217060
one entire thread was spent shitting on tails
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>>537217198
If that were true they would just stop publishing in the countries it doesnt sell
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>>537216964
IDW would be better off as its own continuity again. Gamefags wouldn't have to deal with everything it gets wrong, comicfags wouldn't have to deal with IC debates and the creators wouldn't have to understand the games and could just shit out their head canon characterizations.
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>>537216105
^-^
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>>537216863
>Shadow, finally, the promised time has arrived!
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>>537216938
oh it's just (You)
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>>537217201
Yeah that blue guy who went to the Olympics with Mario.
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Nah. I'm glad IDW was made canon because I WANT IDWfags to fight windfags every day. I hated them from day one and I'm glad that every other issue of IDW is another kick to the hornets nest.
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When is he going to be officially introduced in the comic?
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Cream Sage
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>>537217262
entire threads are spent shitting on characters lucky enough to get the next humiliation ritual
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>>537217404
Made up words
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>>537217274
They pretty much are, most of what you see on shelves are just non translated prints thrown up since it costs them nothing and they’re have excess stock world wide.
In Japan it’s pretty much over.
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>>537216948
>SEGASonic and Fighters did well in Japan
Being the 16th best selling Arcade unit in it's first month or whatever isn't a big deal. New Arcade games always do well because people like to check out the new cabinets. But the good ones retain their profits. SegaSonic was never released outside of Japan and Fighters was basically region locked until 2005. If they truly did well they would've released those games in the usa in a greater scale
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>heh.... _____fags will never hear the end of this....
>oh no nononono ______babs how we will ever recover?
>_______cucks btfo!!!!!
This general is just this repeated everyday
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>>537217407
You really don't want IDW elevating bg characters into the canon Anon. Just be content with whatever your headcanon is.
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>>537216913
¡Puta cancerosa! ¡Nunca lo diré!
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>>537217718
C-C-Come on, what's the worst they could do?
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>>537217608
If no one is buying they stop selling nigga, these comics have been a thing for almost a decade they are not on the experimental phase anymore
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>>537217709
This general is mantal illness.

Now pick your favorite mental illness.
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>>537217346
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>>537217352
"just you"?
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>>537217608
Wrong, the ones here are all translated
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>>537217929
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>>537217709
That's 4chan in general
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Why aren't you talking about and playing Crossworlds?
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>>537216913
>>537217773
Prower should kill them both. He is not a prize to be won.
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I want sex with Shadow so much it's unreal
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why aren't you drawing a hot sexual interaction between two characters
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>>537218097
There are some boards that you can have a normal conversation about specific topics, but this board is /v/ adjacent so theres always some tryhards wanting to fit in with "the sites culture"
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>>537218065
=D

>>537218167
I'm not interested in the game beyond the character dialogue. I was hoping it would have some sort of story mode
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>>537218167
So you spare 70$ for me? Aleo thie is the terminal brain cancer board, /v/ already posted a lot of shit and was on topic and
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>>537217796
That's the scary thing, I don't know. Probably something worse than anyone here could come up with.
Just commission some "art" and call it a day. You could even probably get an IDW artist to do it for authenticity.
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>>537218341
>tryhards wanting to fit in with "the sites culture"
I only see retards trying to bend board cultures according to their own autism.
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PUT ME DOWN!
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>calling everyone a __fag, __bab or __cuck is /vg/ culture
This is why everyone hates us
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Surge
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>>537218839
Wait a sec buddy I'm.... Oh no... Argh... My stomach...

T-Tails wait a moment... Too many chili dogs
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>>537216938
idk but it fits.
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Because
>I don't care for something that's embarrassed to be a Sonic game. The roster should full of returning characters and deep cuts than crossover characters
>There's literally no reason to play it when Mario Kart World & Kirby Air Riders are a thing and will likely be much better than Crossworlds in terms of quality + roster
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Pouring honey on Honey.
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>>537219072
shartnic incoming
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>>537219136
Meant to reply to >>537218167
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I miss being able to just post about whatever Sonic related thing I wanted here without having to worry about shit stirrers reverse searching my filenames, analyzing my typing style, and responding to me with my username. People don't even let you be anonymous here anymore, they have to point out it's you. This site keeps drifting closer to social media and I really don't like it. The worst part is that I know I'm part of the problem, but some people here are so obvious that it's impossible not to notice them and become annoyed.
I want an alternative to 4chan, deeper into the dark net, like infinitychan before it was fucked up the ass. I want to escape into the shadows of the internet, away from the judgemental dull eyes of any normalfaggot. And I want to discuss Sonic the Hedgehog there.
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>>537217407
I like that guy, Boyposter approved OC
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>>537219351
I like Sonic. He's free, like the wind!
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>>537219173
Real
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>>537216736
Me too, it's the best movie they've ever put out by far.
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Butthole of the Sonic fandom
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Poo poo pee pee of the Sonic fandom
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>>537218167
Did you seriously just expect me to play sonic games? All of us are here for one thing and it's not the game.
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>>537219112
I guess so? she has like a latina vibe if you really really reach for that conclusion. It's especially funny to me since I speak spanish and understand what these posts are saying
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>>537219351
Mass homoginezation of the internet was a mistake. I miss when gaming discussion was split up between 500 different forum websites you'd just stumble on. Pre facebook internet felt like a completely different place.
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I want Vanilla And GUN Commander and Marine
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>>537219752
You'll get Pacman and you'll like it
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SONIC FUCKING SURGE AND BEATING HER UNTIL SHE STOPS BEING EVIL
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>>537219524
I never rewatch movies but that's a movie I could watch and probably never get tired of it. I could go into so much detail of what makes that movie so fun to watch but if you know the movie, then you probably know already.
But yeah I kinda hate that is associated with the anxiety statement since people couldn't shut up about it so it became a meme. To me seeing that in like a family movie was pretty powerful, but now is like meaningless or can't take it serious anymore
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>>537219351
Yeah things are pretty shitty right now.
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That's MY fucking main character!
MY fucking protag!
MY fucking MAIN STAR!
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>>537219752
>Vanilla
>Marine
>Gemerl
>Eggman Nega
>GUN Commander
>President
>Elise
>Duke of Soleanna
>Pickle
>Chao Walker
>Orbot and Cubot
>Coconut Crew

So many characters they could have added even with the restrictions
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Is there anywhere I can read the translated Japanese dialogue?
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>>537220529
>Duke of Soleanna
You couldn't possibly market him as a playable character.
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Silver is literally a deep cut by normie standards. No sonic character that didn't already appear in the movies would induce significant extra sales. None of them.
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>>537220529
But we needed space for umm… zazz and eggpawn and steve bro.
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>>537220776
I mean since Mephiles never happened he could technically still be alive and eligible. Though that was 10 years ago and he already looked kinda old
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>>537219351
I think that's gonna be always the fate of Generals, you know? They are nonstop threads that are made back to back, usually having the same posters around so eventually everyone knows who is who, especially if they are flashy about how they post or they intentionally make it known for the sake of attention since again is basically a never ending 4chan thread about a single topic.
I came to realize this recently when I came to this general and how most of the discussion were about named people who I still don't know who they are or people just intentionally being hostile towards eachother for vapid reasons like shipping or because they have a hateboner for a specific character. It's tiresome but at least I still stay around for the few and far between actual sonic discussions or silly posting while trying to mute all of the annoying stuff on my head
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>>537215584
Spin to Win
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>>537219741
Yeah, everybody is corralled into just a few websites, everybody is forced to interact with people they don't like, and everything is accessible via the app store so you get low effort mobileposts. I still remember when revealing you were a mobilefag on this site got you made fun of. I don't see that anymore...it's too common.
The internet died. The soul was drained out of it as it became more and more accessible. What were once places just for nerds are now normalfaggot hiveminds that try and influence what you do, what you say, and what you believe for personal gain. I miss the genuine connections I could create with people. Everything feels so shallow and distant in a way that's hard to explain unless you experienced what it used to be like. I want to go back...
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>>537220948
It doesn't matter if he's alive or dead. Nobody wants to play as the Duke of Soleanna.
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>>537220776
Yes you can

>>537220948
You're right but also who cares if the characters are alive? This is a spinoff without a story where you can play as Spongebob
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>>537221069
Neocities gives me a bit of nostalgia, but even those types of sites can't actually bring things back to how they were. The most we can hope for now is sonic adventure 3 (real) to get some nice hit of nostalgia from the sonic IP.
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If you don't ship Sonurge, you don't like Sonic
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>>537221169
How do you know? He has never been made playable to verify that.
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>>537210314
>Sonic is owned by the Japanese!
And it was the Japanese who decided English first.
>"I can't trust her"?
Watch the animation. He SHOULDN'T trust her in this scenario. He saves her from the family, and all she does in return is steal his Acc mode. Despite that he doesn't hold it against her and he saves her again later in the race, so no, he wouldn't be saying that kinda shit he says in the Japanese mistranslation.
>The real Rouge is a crafty seductress who wouldn't have an issue playing dirty to get what she wants, and Shadow isn't an exception to this rule.
In this friendly enviroment where it's just a race with nothing on the line, yeah she plays her usual bs, even so this post Generations Shadow puts her safety first. But in a serious situation, she's gonna help Shadow above anything else because deep down she's at this point like what Amy is to Sonic. 06 might be a deleted timeline but at this point it's clear she's at that stage where she would fight the entire world for Shadow again.
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>>537221307
No...no, anon, I couldn't take the hurt of Adventure 3 written by Ian Flynn with promotional material made by attentionwhoring troons on social media.
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>>537221507
Adventure 3 written and storyboarded by Imada with no western involvement
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Does Silver need to keep Gold from getting hit by trains?
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My hero
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>>537221807
Shadow crotch
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>>537221807
Nigga acted like he was about to pilot an EVA.
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>>537221696
Every male Sonic character is confident and capable except Silver so she would have a train run on her if she came to the present
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It's Sonic Racing!
Open Network Test!
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>>537222031
>Every male Sonic character is confident and capable except Silver
Bro, your Miles "Wildly Inconsistent" Prower?
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>>537221696
That's a male Indian problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyNzDUi8sA
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>>537222412
Wind
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never
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>>537222412
Like I get it why artists do it but man the sign sticks out so much
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>>537217060
samefags mostly
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>>537222537
Naka is not on parole.
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>IDW is only on book 8 in Japan
No wonder the cast isn’t coming over
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>>537222916
has anybody translated the JP books to compare with Eng?
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You will complain about how this series has become "Hello Kitty" now, and then claim that the lone badass anti-hero should have a healthy friend group. It's as if you crave the illusion of coolness, yet you settle for shallow wish fulfillment at the expense of the heart and soul of the characters they supposedly love.
If you truly want to understand why this series feels like sugary, sanitized "Hello Kitty" now, look no further than yourself and your refusal to accept even a single character who doesn’t walk away with a happily ever after, and instead treads a path of loneliness. It's a failure to embrace the genuine, sometimes painful truths of storytelling that makes it real and meaningful. Confront the unbearable reality that not everyone gets to be saved, and in that raw honesty you'll find something beautiful.
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>>537223147
I've been wondering this too
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edgy but safe franchise
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Bun!
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>>537222916
The Japanese release comes in volumes which contain around 5 issues; the recent release, Volume 8 stops at around issue 32 plus the annual stories around that time.

But yeah they are really behind and I think they miss out on the mini-series.
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Investors want Sonic to be edgy, yet safe. This is code for not wanting Sonic to have its soul back.
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>>537224006
Sonic hasn't had his soul since he went third party.
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>537223884
IDW is crap anyway. Might as well just cancel it.
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This Is a big deal Anons. This guY runs one of the biggest Youtube Sketch comedy channels.

https://xcancel.com/ikrystalcs/status/1961601336698445964
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IDW is better than Blade of Courage.
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>>537224006
When companies care more about satisfying their capricious investors than their loyal, paying customers, that means the death of creativity, soul, and good games
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Have you thanked hollywood today for saving your franchise?
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Bold claim, this guy is easier to advertise than 80% of the Sonic characters currently not on the roster.

You can tie him into the films which gives him an edge over nearly everyone.
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>>537224267
Yes.
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/sthg/ would cheer if this was one of the free update characters and solely out of spite for others.
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>>537215297
Okay so...he just has a bunch of traits that Sonic SHOULD have?
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Is the ring booster gadget like the best one?
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>>537224267
Sonic mostly died with the Genesis, was in hospice on the Saturn, miraculously recovered on the Dreamcast, then had a rough transition to 3rd party
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>>537225027
Fuck Sora. Give me Mickey Mouse
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If Joker is a free update that is completed why is he not part of the base game?
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I'm so happy this radiant, beautiful, angelic, cute, cute, CUTE idol is joining our Sonic game free of charge...
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>>537224423
Archie post genesis wave still beats both of them. I'll give IDW a slight edge over the baby manga.
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>>537225289
No she's paid DLC youre just forced to pay for it.

This game should have cost 60 and just not have any included updates.
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>>537225289
Why are Miku, Joker and Ichiban free but Pacman isn’t?
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>>537225480
sega doesn't own pacman
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>>537225405
Yes because you're a Flynn fan. You want Flynn slop.

Post-Reboot Archie is IDW but Flynn cared more and the editors were more competent.
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>>537224567
Sonic doesn't need Pedowood; it needs Sonic Team to give it creativity, passion, edge, and good gameplay design
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I cannot even say that Penders is the one who gave Archie all of its failings because he was on and writing decent stories when it was good. He just got a lot of creative freedom and then became really bad.

Flynn's highlights were just fixing Penders's mess, but all the garbage we see now from how IDW was written existed all the way back then.
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>>537225039
That's why I say that everytime they try to give Sonic a new character that rivals him they actively remove traits from Sonic. This is why Sonic is the way he is now, they stripped him of every last personality trait he used to have. The sad part is that retards here believe this has been the intent from the beginning.
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>>537225143
I love the bomb boost, it's one slot, you get a ton of bombs, and they fully charge super quick which makes them amazing for throwing behind you both as defence and offense
Fully charged bomb feels like some unholy cross of bomb-om and the giant bowser shell from double dash, I regularly hit 2-3 enemies with it when I'm in first, it's super OP
Pairs great with rings from hitting enemies with items, but honestly since it's one slot you can fit it into almost anything
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>>537225568
Flynn was great back then. That's why everyone wanted him on the main games.
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>>537225568
Yeah Ian is alright
Is there something wrong with that anon
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>>537224567
Tyson Hesse is not Hollywood
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>>537225701
Yes and those people didn't want something written like the games They wanted Archie.
>>537225739
If you like stuff that's not written like Japanese or game Sonic sure.
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>>537225580
Just play mods and hacks
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>>537225814
>Yes and those people didn't want something written like the games They wanted Archie.

"Written like the games"...? You're carefully forgetting to mention that there were no actually well written games aside from Battle after SA2. No shit people wanted a change.
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>>537225907
Then those people are probably the ones happy with the current writing from Sonic. Many of the anons here are probably not someone saying most of the pre2010 games were horribly written.
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>>537225815
Don't have a gaming PC and have to save my money for other stuff. That's where the problem lies
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>Ian Flynn shat on relentlessly here
>Evan Stanley as well but to a lesser degree
>Nobody talks about the movie universe or Prime aside from posting Nine fanart
>Nobody likes how lame IDW is right now
...What exactly do anti-SoJ trannies want from this franchise, again? You ignore or shit on current Western content, and past Western content you do post is from dead-forever canons or written by dead writers, or from Ian Flynn who turned to pure shit.
What the fuck do you people want
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>>537225742
He's working with Hollywood, with Hollywood's resources and vast reach
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>>537226197
Man I just want to play Sonic
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>>537226197
We have cited the kind of stories we want. There is even an example from IDW called Scrapnik Island.

Hell the rare classic comics that are not written by Flynn are also really good as well as that Winter Special.

All because they:

A. Understand the basic foundation of the characters
B. Are not so poorly structured and conceptualized plot wise

You could also just look at Blade of Courage or Murder of Sonic if you want to see more stories praised by anons.

>Prime
Horrible ending, some damage to the lore, damage to Sonic's character but it gets saved by Nine, Shadow, and every Amy variant.
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>Crossworlds test is live right now
>Everyone talks about some irrelevant IDW drama or something instead
I seriously don't even know what you people are all arguing about I haven't been following /sthg/'s latest crashout at all
I don't read the comics at all, why do any of you even care about IDW? It's garbage, the comics have always been garbage, all of them
Why is nobody talking about Crossworlds? It's super fun and the car/gadget builds are interesting
What the fuck is the point of having a SONIC general if you're all going to talk about Flynn and Penders instead?
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>>537226394
Have you played any lately?

I was fucking around with Gens modding today for the first time in a while.
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>>537226917
I had to stop because all the boosting was hurting my wrist but I literally was just playing Crossworlds like 10 minutes ago
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>>537226757
>Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic, comics, movies and manga!
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>>537226197
They want more crying lesbians, more gay and non-binary donut steel OCs, more talking about feelings, more Plebbit-tier memes about Shadow being a Swiftie, and more brain rot
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>>537227067
But not games apparently
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it's peak cringe hours
>wave needs some extra money
>no big scores to steal, no big races with large enough prize pools
>bites the bullet and decides to watch cream while vanilla goes off to a gardening conference in a neighboring state for a few days
>everyone else is busy, so nobody would really know she's there except maybe storm after noticing her missing
>starts off awkward with wave trying to connect over extreme gear mechanics and tricks and whatnot
>cream instead responds with the things she normally does with her mom, showing baking recipes, stuff they've knitted, and wave's first real look at a chao garden
>wave mellows out a bit, ends up enjoying the cozy pace, though she does let cream stay up late one night to check out a vidya console she brought from the blimp, complete with an order of pizza
>cream ends up owning wave and then some in the typical smash bros stand-in
>the day vanilla gets back, cream presents wave with a tin filled with cookies as she's leaving, leaving her with an actual smile on her face that she tries and fails at hiding
>when she comes back she flaunts it in front of jet, with him getting a wrench to the head every time he tries to sneak one

absolute shite and completely outta character, i know, but i couldn't resist
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>>537226757
It's a good cart racer, what else is there to say?
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>>537226593
>praised by Anons

By that you mean you, your alt IPs, and maybe two other people at most
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>>537226757
Sonic Adventure 3 could be officially teased right now with a mention that none of the western creatives are part of it, and /sthg/ would still find a way to make it about Flynn and the comics
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>>537227328
What's your favourite track?
What's your favourite item?
What's your favourite car/character combo?
What's your favourite gadget build?
What's your favourite character interaction?
Have you done any of the online stuff?
What rank did you get?
Have you unlocked everything?
Have you gotten all the red rings?
What's your best time?
Are you gonna buy the game, or is the super high price too much?
Who do you think the unannounced characters will be?

There's almost as much to talk about with this game as there is a regular sonic game, plus all the builds, plus rosterfagging, plus the price debacle.
And yet /sthg/ wants to talk about fat old men instead
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>>537227697
i'm not reading all that
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>>537227697
Talk about what you want instead of bitching about people you can easily ignore or filter.
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>>537227697
The general is yandere for Ian.
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>>537198550
My Amy...
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English
blaze: You've grown up much during the short time I've known you. I look forward to the skills you put on display today.
tails: That's high praise indeed! Just you watch, I'll show you what racing is all about!

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Japanese localized
Blaze: Your talent as a mechanic is quite remarkable, Tails. I expect you'll put that power on full display for this race!
Tails: Thanks! With my ultimate machine, I'm gonna give you a percormance you won't forget!


Nice to see my crack ships has some fuel.
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>>537202890
Peak trio
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>>537227697
>no one answered any of the questions
kek proving him right
personally i come here just for the pretty pictures, when i try to start discussion about the games i'm lucky to get 1-2 replies
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>still bitching
Talk about Sonic
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>>537227536
You can say that all you want, but those projects do not get hate here nearly as much as they get praise.
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>>537228631
okay, you start
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>>537228696
Zazz is ugly and ruined the franchise.
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>>537226757
>why do any of you even care about IDW? It's garbage, the comics have always been garbage, all of them
It is canon and might have a real effect on the rest of the franchise. It is like saying that anons should ignore Sonic X if they did not like it even though it did end up affecting the franchise later.
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>Crossworlds gets announced
>Oh, cool! It's going to be a sonic racing game that goes back to its roots!
>Actually is a crossover racing game!
>Oh, that means the sega characters are going to interact with each other, right? The game is going to be a bit of a homage to sega's history, right? Imagine all the possibilties for in-jokes and references an-
>LOL. LMAO! IF YOU AINT PART OF SONIC, EXPECT FUCKING NOTHING! MAYBE A GENERIC VOICE LINE OR TWO!
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>>537208632
Agreed.
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>>537228827
They didn't even do this in Riders, anon.
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>>537224378
I've seen alot of people think this is just better than mario kart world.
I'm gonna have to take their word for it cuz I don't have a switch 2
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>>537228767
he unironically has the best design out of the deadly shits. then again it's hard to fuck up a punk design.
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>>537228994
Riders wasn't billed as a crossover game. CrossWorlds is billed as one, but the crossover part might as well be just a one scene cameo for all it's worth. If they were only going to give Sonic characters any real attention, just drop the crossover shit and add more Sonic characters.
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>>537229217
>add more Sonic characters
More characters like....?
>>537229116
Hideous. Disgusting. Out of place. I like how obnoxiously loud he is in game though.
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>>537224378
The hate behind MKW seems forced as fuck to me. I have it and its a fine game. What were these people expecting? Mario to pop out and give them an Italian sloppy toppy? The intermissions are boring and it should have been drive to a track then do three laps. But the gameplay itself is solid.
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>the game is actually good
Apologize!
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Sex with Zazz
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Guys.

I can’t stop playing Sonic Racing Crossworlds.

…Help?
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>>537219842
I don't want any other crossover characters but Pac is allowed to be in whatever game he wants. They took his wife, give him a break
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>>537229410
Sonic has a wide cast of characters, don't be dumb.
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>>537229235
OOC Silver and Blaze are in sync uguu
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>>537229747
You haven't told me who though. Chances are they aren't part of the selling cast and aren't worth putting in over John Minecraft to make some extra cash.
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Wait there is a metal Amy? The script implies that.
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>>537229482
I always thought the game looked and played good. I assume they balanced the shit out of it since the first test run, right? Since I remember the main complain was how chaotic everything was because of how often people got random items
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>>537228985
sex rat
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>>537229482
It's better than Mario Kart World
But it's also 100 dollars in my country
I don't see myself buying it until it's on sale
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>>537230075
*sex bestie
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>>537230118
>Better than a game he admits he never played because he can't afford it
Come on, anon...
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>>537230118
I'm just playing it for free this weekend and likely never bothering with it again
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>>537230412
I did play MKW
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>>537230365
*best sexy
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>>537229482
Feels the same as TSR
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>>537230075
I love when people draw sa1 amy, she was so cute in that
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Amy:"Sonic! Fancy seeing you here! I'll be waiting for you at the finish line... It's a date!~
Sonic: "A date? Heh, you drive a hard bargain, Amy. Just try not to be too heartbroken when I win."

This is what /sthg/ would call top tier dialogue.
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>>537230657
No it doesn't.
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>>537230813
>Sonic: "You'll have to keep your eyes on the road if you wanna best me!"
>Amy: *rapes Sonic*
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>>537229482
Hate how simplistic the display looks. Recent Sonic games have been using a simple style for the HUD for some reason.
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No way are there people who prefer the left over the right.
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>>537230681
Same. I think it's the cutest Amy!
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>>537229482
If I leave the JP voices on.
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>>537231519
You know that women exist, right? A woman actually owns this character, fun fact.
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I've played very little of any Sonic racing games. The only kart racer I ever played extensively was Mario Kart Wii. CrossWorlds gameplay feels low budget and janky as hell by comparison. I feel like the game is fine if you do regular stuff but the moment you do anything irregular it gets really fucky. Collision restitution is jittery. Drifting near or bumping into a wall doesn't feel right at all. Drifting in general feels like ass, I can't corner nearly as hard as I feel like I should. The handling on the flight and water feels like dogshit.
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>>537231780
Nakamura is a woman?
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Look at these doods
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>>537231887
Evan Stanley
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>>537231980
...doesn't own shit.
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>>537231784
I have my own thoughts about the walls but haven't had issues in the air or water.
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>>537231980
cannot draw human women
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>>537232515
Left and right are both written the same way too btw. Staying on-model won't un-uwufy him.
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>>537232795
Who cares about human women?
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>>537231519
>>537198274
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>>537220470
FIRST PLACE ZONE

GAYDOW
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>>537205704
>How would that work
SILVER: Something happened, and it made me think about what went down between you and me and...I wanted to say, in hindsight, I could've made different choices.
SAGE: Is that so?
SILVER: Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying it's all on me. It's not. But if I had to do it all over again, I would maybe do some things differently. And I just thought you should know that.
SAGE: That you have regrets?
SILVER: Yeah. I have regrets.
SAGE: Hm. Why?
SILVER: 'Cause I've seen what you were, once. There aren't that many Robotniks left and, uh, I think we should stick together.
SAGE: No - why have regrets at all? What's the point?
SILVER: What do you mean?
SAGE: Well, look at you. You're in so much pain. Why are you putting yourself through all this?
SILVER: 'Cause I wanted to tell you...
SAGE: That you have regrets. And I'm telling you: don't bother. What's the point? We're going to keep fighting.
SILVER: That's not true.
SAGE: Silver, this is what you do. You obstruct me, over and over and over. And then there's this show of remorse.
SILVER: It's not a "show".
SAGE: I know you don't think it's a show. I don't doubt your emotions are real. But what's the point of sad faces and the gnashing of teeth? If you're not going to change your behavior, and you won't...
SILVER: We don't have to keep doing this--
SAGE: Why don't you skip the whole exercise? In the end, you'll intervene when I act. You can't help it. So stop apologizing and accept it. Embrace it. Frankly, I'd have more respect for you if you did.
SILVER: What about you, Sage? You didn't do anything wrong? You're just an innocent victim?
SAGE: Let me put your mind at ease. You don't have to make up with me. We don't have to understand each other. Things are fine the way they are. I don't want to hurt your feelings, but the truth is...you've never mattered all that much to me.
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>>537200035
>Sonic was never a cocky relatable teenager. He was always a free spirit who just did as he pleases
Mostly true, although he was obviously designed with some attitude in-mind.
>Shadow was never the calm and collected counterpart for Sonic, he's a seemingly alien and alert person with an almost machine-like exterior
Shadow has been portrayed as having feelings and a temper from the start, but certainly calmer and more capable than sonic.
>Rouge flirting openly with Knuckles was something Sonic X just made up
That one is completely true. Sonic X practically invented the whole ship
>Sonic fearing water is just something Sonic X just made up
X did make that up, but it's fitting because it's kind of meta since anyone who played a sonic game would naturally be wary of water.
>Sally was literally a slut like her detractors once claimed, not a calm and resolute lesbo
Depends on if you're talking about satam or archie
>People ship her with her own daughter for lgbt brownie points now
Yes
>Silver was never a cute softboy
True
>Amy WAS a rapist in Sonic X
Yes
>Cosmo was not in love with Tails, a magic spell forced her innocent crush to become true love
The point of tails relationship with cosmo was that he genuinely fell in love with her, and him killing her at the end was a loss of innocence and source of character growth
>Surge is fully able to resist the urge to kill Sonic and just seems to hate him for reasons that wouldn't exist outside the comic
Nobody knows what the fuck surge's programming is supposed to be, epsscially not Ian or Evan
>Sage is EEVILLLL and wants to KILL PEOPLE
Sage is enigmatic, but at the end of the day is an Eggman creation
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Cmon dude, my mouth was open.
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Hows it goin /sthg/, what did i miss tonight?
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>>537231910
There are people who think this is canon
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>>537233758
You missed nothing
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>>537233758
A bunch of us are/were playing CrossWorlds. It's pretty fun so it's a bit uneventful right now.
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If Crossworlds was good Blaze would be removed and replaced with Barry.
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>>537234082
Barry is ugly and ruined the franchise.
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>>537234003
I already knew, i just needed someone to tell me outright.
>>537234082
True! Then i would actually buy the game
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If Crossworlds was good Blaze would be removed and replaced with Fang.
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They will never remove Blaze because I asked them not to.
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>>537234365
who are you
why are they listening to you and not meee
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>>537233809
But Nibroc
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>>537234450
They listen to me because I'm a true and honest blazebro.
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Sage would just get jealous of Silver's sibling-like bond with Silver and comment how in sync they are and not want to fight them and lament Metal doesn't want to play Roblox with her or whatever
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>>537234450
You should say "please" more often.
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>>537234830
>Silver's sibling-like bond with Silver
Silver and ESP Silver are meeting and Sage is jealous?! Holy crap!
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>>537234830
>Silver's sibling-like bond with Silver
Based. Silver and ESP Silver > muh Silver in-sync with toxoplasmosisaze
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The "Friends" menu in multiplayer has lobby IDs and invites, maybe we can play together,
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>>537234952
I obviously meant Blaze please don't bully me

For real though an actual Silver story with Sage would be something like "Sage tries to establish a connection with Eggman Nega (who could be a clone of Eggman) but since it's not Eggman she can't recreate what was lost" and that ties into Silver's whole shtick about erasing his relationship with Blaze and changing the future.
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>>537235106
They'll probably have room IDs for custom lobbies and stuff on release. Would probably the best way to start sessions here.
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>>537235457
I think that's already the case. If you open the Friends menu and go to the right until you reach Lobby it gives you a Lobby ID and also lets you input someone else's Lobby ID
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scalie supremacy
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>>537235754
Ill fuck anyone as long as it isn’t human
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>>537235883
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>>537235927
Ill never touch anything that shares the same species as this thing
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>>537235883
ok furfaggot
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>Same image Tailslop again today
Tails fatigue.
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>>537229554
Do my request please?
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>>537229482
I don't play Sonic games
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>>537235927
I wonder if elise is conceptually related to the scrapped idea to give sonic a human girlfriend named madonna
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>>537225039
Sonic is not naive, ultra honest, emotionally unhinged, or over the top bombastic. JP Sonic isn't rude and aggressive like American Sonic. Sonic is chill while Silver has no chill.
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>>537229689
Imagine being so mindbroken



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