goo edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/last >>538163548
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
There was a Viscous in my team whose heart was in the right place, but I guarantee I can survive ulting without getting cubed. Or he was just griefing me.
>On a 5 win streak, 4 with Lash, 1 with Haze>Queue into my 6th Lash game>Mina is pretty good and we crush lane easy but the rest of the team has a rough early game>Go to gank after taking tower + spirit boost but even with my ult Infernus and Mirage can't kill Bebop or Viscous>"Oh well this might be the loss">Rest of game goes poorly, stuff going for free, I'm the only one with decent farm since everyone duo pushes which means my damage gets easily countered especially by the tanky as fuck Bebop>Yet somehow they still lose nearly every team fight and we end up winningFrom 15 minutes onward we were at 10k souls behind, at 25~ it was close to 30 to 40 and we still somehow won at the end.
Valve should make the game look like this
why is always the league rejects that type ez 2 seconds before the game closes?
MESS WITH THE BULL...(1/2)
>>538235363... YOU GET THE HORNS!(2/2)
>>538231496tracklock is STUPIT
He's not wrong.
>>538235345yesmeanwhile the dota ones are the people who voice chat and call people faggots because you didn't dive 2v4 with them
>>538235697Id agree before Deadlock. This game made mobas work for me.
>>538235697>whoever wins the first half of the match has a 90% chance of steamrollingname a single team vs team game where this isn't the case
How do I Victor now after the nerfening?
>>538235920Winning and steamrolling aren't the same thing. Like, if Team A has the item advantage but Team B objectively outplays them in a teamfight, but team A still wins that fight because of items, that's a little bullshit and demoralizing. And it's all quite incomprehensible with all the numbers and shit flying around.
Any tips for building Paige? I've been able to carry with McGinnis and Paradox, but I find Paige struggling to get the finishing blows and not offering much to their team aside from a shield that gets cracked quite easily.
i just realized paradox is scottish
>become giga Satan >keep losing every team fight in the late game, manage to rape a couple of them before/while the doorman keeps singling my ass out every time and survivors on the enemy team always live with <50% hp>"man what the fuck is Pocket doing he should've scaled by now">>spectate Paige>Well, I kinda fucked my build up too so my bad I guess
>>538236310This one might be
>>538236310No, they're Swedish.
>pick seven>always have fun no matter whatthank u based silly flip man
Does Vyper do anything? I've managed to get every carry item in the game and she still gets mogged by pretty much any other snowball hero.
>>538236310I mean, she literally says she's scottish in some lines
>>538236705Vyper might've been a more interesting character as a RATATATA gun character if literally every M1 character didn't want to build large amount of fire rate either because their damage relies on it (haze stacks, infernus debuff, mina love bite, etc) or just because it more efficiently gives you higher DPS compared to the general +dmg items.
Fuck me that was a weird matchI haven't had to just focus mostly on the macro in such a long timeFor whatever reason, my two opponent's in mid just kept brute forcing fights at the start which they kept dying over, and later on they kept split pushing and trying to backdoorMost of my teammates didn't fare much better, but they at least slowly stopped dying over and over again once laning ended Thank god none of them had the wherewithal to buy Spellbreaker or Counterspell
>>538235697correct, being retarded (like you or that anon) is not wrong
Its so funny that every post with ranks on /dlg/ is some absurdly low shitlow match
>>538236118How do you intend to "objectively outplay" a team that has such an item advantage that you apparently have no actual options to beat them in a team fight?Giving up such a massive lead should generally mean you lose in the end, and the fact that you gave it up so early just means you have to suffer those mistakes for longer
>>538237104Hey I started playing a day before Drifter came out and it's my first Moba.
>>538234221How the fuck do i do corner boosting? I watch those guides and I can't replicate most of it....
>>538237350>all the drifter x doorman yaoi art is because of subhuman russian niggerswasnt my first guess
>>538237713
>>538236705>Does Vyper do anything?No
>>538236705>... She doesn't do anything?
I found this cool picture that reminds me of Warden and I wanted to wait for a good opportunity to post it but I don't main him and I don't even want to play him, meaning that I wouldn't know what to say, so I'll just post it and leave it at that instead.
>>538238213>Warden when he realizes this world isnt worth saving
>>538236118>no rel answerok, you can kill yourself now
>>538238213>Warden after he saves the world and has nothing to do anymore
They need to get rid of Victor's 2 removing debuffs at max level, its just too absurd. He's impossible to deal with on a level that no other character in the game is, the only counterplay against Victor is to end the game before he reaches 30k souls or you just lose. If he couldn't spam debuff remover at least antiheal items would do something against him
>>538238478warden would unironically be an autistic NEET after saving the world
>theyre changing Wardens VA with his visual rework
>Play hero that can shoot objectives>Win>Play hero that can't shoot objectives and is team reliant>LoseTwo of those Wraith wins are because I simply ignored a teamfight to shoot patron
>>538238637not likelyhis ultimate goal is to kill the patrons, but theres still tons of paranormal whack ass shit left on Earth to deal with
>>538238482it'd be crazy if they added some actual anti-tank items that would actually do anything at all but would be pretty much useless against weaker characters, wouldn't it? Too bad this is a moba and tanks aren't allowed to be balanced ever. Just be glad you're not playing league, I guess
>>538238723Forgot screenshot
>team has 4x rejuv>all the farm on the map is gone>all our lanes are pushed halfway up the map>no sight of any enemies>i decide there's nothing to do but wait for them so i sit in the base and farm the little trickling soul fountain>teammate thinks i'm rage afking the match because we're losing>tell them there's nothing to do and we shouldn't even be outside of the base right now>they ignore me and someone instantly explodes outside of the base and we get crushed 6v5gee, maybe we should fight inside of our base where we can regenerate 400hp/s and hide in the fountain when they have 4 extra instant respawns over us?no? you want to die instantly outside of the base accomplishing nothing, defending nothing, and farming nothing?
>Green lane's getting pushed in because both laners rotated>Rotate over to green, push green up>Yellow's now getting pushed in because they're trying to brol in blue>Head over to Yellow and push it up>Green is now getting pushed in again because people decided to farm camps after the fightSometimes I wish I could just have Mirage's ult on everyone and save myself the time.
how does wraith have +100 DPS on me when I have a full build and she doesn't REEEEEEEEEE
>win one game of Initiate 1>now playing against teams where all of them are in our base at minute 8 spawncamping
I think weighted shots might be one of the worst items in the game right now. 3200 for +30% damage is abysmal and it's unusable on characters that already have bad bullet velocity. I could see it maybe being used if it was a tier 2 as a more consistent damage alternative to opening rounds but yeesh...
>>538239029base bullet damage and fire rate
>>538239029>wow wtf how does anti mage have dps on me with 5 items when i built 6 rapiers on disruptor!
How do I pocket? I thought he was really good cuz the other guy in my lane was good with him but when I tried him I had the lowest amount of souls
Whos better at carrying between ivy and vyper?I refuse to play infernus/haze/wraith
>>538240301drifter
>people complain about how bullet is superior to taking objectives (and therefore winning)>"ok we've removed spirit resist from objectives">bullet is still significantly better but now certain characters like seven and mina can shred objectives tooare they actually fucking retarded? why did they think this was a solution? I swear to god these people do not actually think at all with these balance changes. they must outsource their balancing to chatgpt too
>>538240439Paige can also delete objectives fast. The dragon is so fucking dumb.
I think I'm giving up on Sinclair for now because of the skill floor. I love this character but I'm very bad with them and I feel like I'm failing to learn the game's fundamentals because of thatIs Dynamo good this patch? I used them like a year ago when they were S+++ tier but I stopped playing for unrelated reasons shortly after he got nerfed to regular S tier, I don't know where he stands nowadays
Spirit drifter is good and because your range sucks anyway youre not sacrificing your ability to kill walkers. It's surprisingly strong and feels less dependent on snowball
When are they going to buff Vyper? The character is actually useless, its embarrassing.
>>538240301carrying in what way? viper if you mean like doing big damage and ending the game, but ivy can probably do more to "carry" in the sense she has really strong teamfight abilities like a dynamo
Seven looks like THAT?!
What does the super competitive actually do? Is it a hard lock to only other people that have this? I am on 5 minute queue and I'm only alchemist. I doubt anyone at my rank has this enabled.
>>538239029Retarded ivyfag finally realizing that ivy is not a gun hero.
>>538240626Dynamo will pretty much always be good until they find a way to completely gut Singularity. He won't be an absolute hard carry, but he's still good.
>>538241252Ivy is currently almost not a heroShe's nearly perfectly balanced
>>538240439Why should spirit heroes be good at taking objectives though?
>>538234643Why are you so intent on making people see your ritualpost? You are slightly editing both the image and the text every time.
>>538239029Black queen.
How do you add items to the builds? Holy fuck i hate valve
As someone that plays both spirit and M1 the game is PARTLY balanced between the two camps, spirit should probably get a slight bonus or just walkers should not have as MUCH resist. Spirit heroes get you early pressure lategame gun heroes win you the game, they should probably just make early kills more impactful so there is more pressure as opposed to just letting spirit also nuke objectives. As it stands right now I bully the Haze early game on Lash for example and take her camps but she's just right back up farming some other safer part of the map until she can just rape everything.One big issue I do see is a lot of the strong M1 heroes also are allowed to evenly split their damage between spirit and gun, that is not ok and should be looked at, makes it way too hard to build against them and actually defend your shit as well, mainly just nuke Seven though.
i do not get this game. Brawling is bad but team fights make or break the game every other faggot ass hero is great at split pushing at the same time, none of the defensive items feel like they do anything unless you are so far ahead in farm it hardly matters....the fuck
MINA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>538242323>4/6 heroes on the enemy team will be full spirit buildsSpirit needs to be looked at and hero abilities re-balanced around it. 4/6 people on the enemy team having fucking boundless spirit and spirit burn is indicative of a problem.
today was a good day :)
>>538241805you're missing the point entirely. you must be on the dev team!
>>538242950Is victor hard to play? I'm a sucker for characters with his type of gimmick.
>>538242993requires good macro
>>538234221https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VSfnfRIlEo
>>538242993He's probably in the middle of the pack. A little harder than infernus because you are slower
>>538239029you will never be a gun carry.
>lane partner refuses to shoot troopers>they take guardian>lane partner refuses to push even just a little>they push walker>entire team refuses to come help defend, they must brawl on blue>they take walker early>start losing hard>team starts getting mad at literally anything, cannot understand why we could be losingmost deadlock players are not even sentient
so I'm realizing that if you want to win games, you need to play a self-reliant hero. playing any build that requires anybody else to do anything, is never going to win at a positive win rate.
>>538243167I hate those russian kids that rush and die and then cry "wee wee why no help" its literally 5 minutes in you fucking moron.
I’ve uninstalled until PriestSuper fun and addicting game, I can’t wait for the next guys
>>538242989What's that? Did i hear that Seven and McNiggis are too weak?
it feels like every game I'm being bullied out of the lane and under my tower because my opponent has bridge control. how the fuck do I stop this?
>>538243662sometimes thats just how it be
How do I win this game as vyper?
I have 600 hours in this game and I still don't understand the items.I have 4800 tracked in dota 2, for reference.
>>538243818>vyper
>>538243818let me guess. you didn't have toxic bullets?
The chat wheel is so limiting. Is there a way to say something not on it?
>2 vampires in the same releasegetting a bit bored of the setting you've made already, huh valve
>>538244062you can bind 5 phrases in the menu, maybe more if you know the console commands.
>>538244062one of the options is context sensitive, and you can swap out whats on the wheel with other options from a larger list. for some reason the defualt has some pretty useless ones
OH BOY CANT WAIT FOR THE FORCED 50 TO HIT
>>538244062I wish you could rebind the self-target for tasting from MMBI know you can but whenever I tried, the game bugged otu and wouldn't allow me to rebind it
>>538237550nobody really uses corner boosting, it's kind of a meme
Does tankbuster do current or max % hp
surge of power on rake or ult for mina? gets more damage but rake better synergizes with the speed/shooting buff
>>538243276Too many retards playing like it's OW or Rivals, trying to get epic cool game clips for likes and proceeding to die
>>538244698rake, the shooting buff is too important to pass up and you'll be using it a lot more than your ult anyway
Spirit vyper is totally legit though>qsr on 1>mystic burstAnd you got a spammable gorillion damage dagger and your venom to totally shit on people, among other spirit items I was doing like 600 damage venom nukes and shredding people with mercurial magnum
>>538243865grab match ids from tournaments and buy what they buy, it's mostly just about knowing what is op each patch
>>538244072>2 vampires>no van helsing ripoffcome on man
Couldn't kelvin just ask someone to take the rock off his back and then if he dies they can just put the rock back and bring him back to life
>infernus shoots me exactly 24 times>does 500 damage in gun damage>does 2000 damage in passive spirit damagebut don't worry guys! it was nerfed 30% so it's fair now!there are some excruciatingly dumb choices in this otherwise very fun game. legitimately makes me think there is some subversive actor in the dev team that wants this game to be shit. how is this fun or engaging to play as or against?
>>538245374he doesn't know if it works like that and won't risk it
Ohh so that heart with a star going through it means it's not resistable. Makes that drifter current hp % damage nasty af on a 20 second timer.
>>538245460the infernus seethe itt is starting to make me wonder if the people who post here and play understand the concept of scaling heros in mobas.
magician, gt, vyper are all very strong but people don't play them and the people who do play them don't know how to play them so everyone thinks they're shit. it's actually insane to me how people think magician is weak, his kit is absolutely fantastic
>>538245806Not that anon but I don't play MOBAs so I might not understand. Is it the concept that some heroes peak early while others continue to grow such that, while they might struggle earlier on, the longer the game lasts the more they overshadow the former heroes? Like fighters v. wizards in D&D?
>read new hero lore about drifterWhy are they inserting a bloodlines vampire society gimmick, seems unfitting for the settingalso lmao @ his entire lore being an edgy 13 year old's fantasy oc of "yeah theres these other super strong vampires but hes too badass to follow the rules and stuff"
>>538245814Magician is pretty nuts but his ult is boring and gay so fuck him, and I'm someone that loves rubick.
>>538245936Yes. It varies from game to game on just how such things operate generally and what actually makes them "scale" but the concept of a character that is basically always weak early on in a match with the tradeoff that they will eventually be exceptionally strong is not in any way uncommon. Infernus fits that archetype well.
>>538245987what exactly is unfitting about a paranormal version of new york where every supernatural thing happened at once including america annexing part of hell having the camarilla, something that's existed for centuries
>>538243818Build more spirit items so you can go even faster
>>538244670https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWErN67gPQ0
>>538246301yeah even at the highest level nobody does this, they just do a jump that's more consistent and maybe takes an extra stamina instead
>>538246187>100 spirit to get the same movespeed bonus as a 1600 item
>>538245806My biggest issue with infernus is taking tick damage from his dash even after I've left the effect
Damn I keep trying my hardest but I keep losing
>>538246084>Infernus fits that archetype well.I don't think we are playing the same game. Infernus weak early on in a match? bro he gets a free 20% damage amp just as a base ability. lets be serious
>>538234659>pocket>clearly a dude>uses they/them>viscous>amorphous amoebe blob without any biological sex>uses he/himUhmmm Volvo?
>>538246383You don't do both? The enemies should not be able to see your lightning fast strikes
>two half dead teammates dive four enemies>they die>"bro why didn't you come fight"what do you say to this
Anything I should add?
Explain why out of the 5 abandon ruined matches I've had this weekend, all 5 were on my team.All scored, and I lose rank.Explain why this is fair.Why can't I have a free win sometimes instead of a free loss?
>playing haze>against kelvin and drifter>I can just sit on the bridge and endlessly spray at them>their only counterplay is kelvin has to commit really hard to beam me, and I can just dagger him and walk away>drifter has to get lucky with his bleed proc (lol) and teleport >as I'm standing on the bridge and doing an endless stream of constant damage to them, I see drifter desperately trying to auto attack back and his projectiles disappear before they even get close enoughI can't believe how unfair some laning phase matchups are allowed to be lmao. Feels good to be on the other end for once since I'm usually playing close range heroes.
>>538246734Are you retarded? Fire rate bonuses hard counter fire rate reduction. You don't even notice anyone with juggernaut when you're playing vyper.
>>538246856sorry, but I've been reliably told that the ranking system is perfect by /dlg/. must be a skill issue on your part then!
>>538239029Ivy is actually unique as a high fire rate support because it means she can more properly utilize some more "supporty" weapon based items. imo if you want to play support gun ivy and be useful, you should run toxic bullets, inhibitor, and ricochet. If you throw in tesla rounds you can run stuff like suppressor and mystic slow to have additional ways to debuff enemies just by shooting at them and it still combos well with ivy thorns. The basic idea is to just debuff the shit out of the enemy team whenever they're shot by you.
>mina does literally 1 (one) single thing well in the entire game, blowing up objectives>people bitch and moan about itwhat do people want? for her to cease to exist? i mean seriously
>>538246982You know that heroes with a higher base firerate require more shots to land in order to actually proc their debuffs? Abrams for example could proc toxic bullets with two shots last time I checked.
>>538246945You can test the DPS yourself numbnuts.
>>538247001Honestly I'd prefer if her ult could reliably hit enemy players than shred objectives. Tired of people just hitting space and half the bats casually missing.
>>538247092So you're saying if someone buys fire rate reduction that I should AVOID buying fire rate bonuses? LOL!
>Building support>Glance at the top>I'm 8k souls above everyone else on my team with no damage itemsWell what are they doing then
>Set mina as highest priority>The rest the basic priority>Find game in 3 seconds>Doesn't give me MInaFuck this game.It didn't even try.
>>538247075that's why real support niggas just run tesla bullets with bullet resist shredder, healbane, suppressor and mystic vulnerability
>>538246661>big brool in center map>goes wrong, four of us die>Yamato runs early, Abrams a bit later but still survives because he's well-fed and built to tank>same thing happens a second time later, Yamato and Abrams survive>our Seven complains that the two players are cowards who won't help in the fight despite both having good KDADid he want us to full wipe and let the enemy team invade the base uncontested?
>>538234221Who is the current meta melee guy and what does he build?This tankbuster meta is getting on my nerves and as much as hate being m1"ed in the head while being barely able to move, getting popped by vexing bolt from the one good sinclair on the server for half my hp bar while doorman spams carts in my face perma stunning me into a wall with lash sitting on my face every chance he gets is getting annoying too.
is mina actually fun or is it just coomers/waifufags
>>538246734firerate reduction is countered by firerate itself, as firerate is an additive percent, but firerate penalties are multiplicative. tit for tat, every positive percent of firerate will result in more firerate than the exact same percent of firerate penalty.the most direct counter to firerate (specifically, as a non-generic anti-gun answer) is return fire, but that isn't actually defensive. other than that, firerate is countered by mobility, as all but one high firerate hero has to deal with bloom and they all have to deal with serious gun falloff.to clarify: firerate reduction obviously does reduce damage output for high firerate characters. it's just that it reduces the damage output of non-firerate stackers much more significantly, so it's a poor choice of words to call it a counter.
>>538247512They're not mutually exclusive but if you had to pick one it's the latter
>>538247472Pick Billy and get echo shard, slamming someone in place 3 times is great cc
>>538247512Her 2 can dodge Bebop bombs/Seven stuns on like a 8 second cooldown and put you on rooftops. She's fun when you can survive wild shit with no defensive items and then heal back up to full by raking a few minions. She's less fun in the sense that her ult barely works against anyone with functional legs and her main kit is 'shoot at someone' despite being a spirit character.
>>538246501>The brooding anemone is gynodioecious, starting life as a female and later becoming hermaphroditic, so that populations consist of females and hermaphrodites.
>>538247609I don't know why people don't build billy close range gunNothing in his kit synergizes well with heavy melee, and he can keep firing forever while he's in melee range
>>538247768his 1 deals heavy melee damage at max rank
>>538247768>Nothing in his kit synergizes well with heavy meleeBut fully leveling his 1 does heavy melee damage. Getting echo shard and crushing fists means you'll proc your stun.
>>538247768his gun is also terrible with a small magazine and long ass reload.
>>538234221HEAR ME OUTCrushing fists on drifter You can teleport behind squishies in the backline and slap them for 1k while you slash does extra 600. Few left clicks after and they are dead.
>>538248084Go look at what his 3 does>>538247897>>538248017>one ability with deep investmentBuild him for lights weaved into his 3 procsYour bullet damage is amped, not your weapon damage.
>>538248172>melee item on a hero with a melee ability>>538248250Crushing fists reduces their bullet resist, ding dong
>overnerf viktor>buff mino so she does assloads of damageglad to see that icetard still doesn't know how to balance his game
What are the characters that is absolutely impossible to carry the game?Even if you have major souls lead, you still can't carry a dead weight team.
>>538248374So does hunters aura
>confused why I keep 1 shotting people as drifter despite the math not mathing>realize that the damage amplification from them being alone is increasing my already insane burst to even higher levelsholy fuck man this character is perfect for me. People just MELT
>>538248593Hunters aura doesn't give me +45% melee damage
>>538248664FineKeep going heavy melee and risking the parryI'm going to keep shredding people with the gun and stealing their health with lights while never having to reload
>>538247512she's carried by being quite fun, the problem is just how bad she is. all of her abilities are frankly fine, it's just that the base character they're attached to is dreadful.her gun has shotgun falloff, kelvin's firerate, and vyper's inaccuracy. not to mention it uniquely has the worst damage in the game by a mile, but that is compensated by love bites. however, that does mean she has poor interactions with items such as monster rounds and mercurial magnum.her health is the lowest in the game, paired with the lowest health per level as well.she has 1 less base stamina than default.her base movespeed is in the slowest echelon, sitting with the likes of abrams and bebop.
>>538248651broken characters made for low int peasantsdo you play mcginnis by chance?
>>538248789no I dont like split pushing i only want to kill
>>538247765Viscous doesn't brood, he's always happy
>>538245695I knew you were wrong so I just tested it and yeah, you're wrong dumbass.
>>538248821based and serialkillerpilled
>>538246501Pocket calls themselves they/them because they don't feel like a man or a womanMina calls him they/them because she doesn't respect him as a man
Yamato seems like the most useless character in the game. I genuinely can't recall a single time I ever saw a Yamato carry a game, or contribute significantly to a team fight. They just seem completely useless past 15 minutes in the game.
>>538248736You can't parry bash down lil bro, learn how2deadlock.
>>538248976erm ackshually, i bought counterspell
>>538248976>counterspell says otherwise
>>538249025>>538249035>counterspelling bashdownnow how will you handle the following two other bashdowns
>>538249141either the second bashdown comes out too quickly and it gets caught by the lingering counterspell or you're stuck in the animation and i roll out of range
>>538249141>Counterspell the bashdown>still in the air when the animation cancels so I can go vertically anywhere I wantCya you goat bitch
>>538249242>>538249247*pulls you back with chain gang*
>>538243662stronger laner :^)Geists malice is decent at getting people off the bridge at 2nd upgrade, bebop hook is obvious. Haze/Fern/Mina punish standing in the open.
>>538249296You had to have already started chain gang or I'm breaking it around corners fuckoYou're joking if you think bashdown spamming billy wins against anyone with a braincell
>>538249357It does, I'm a higher rank than you btw (I checked)
So Valve's political fantasy in Deadlock is definitely magic-fueled technocracy, but what's theit kink?
be warned: i am queuing up right now with mina as my only high priority.
>>538249416>na or euYour skill floor is lower than my future prospects at getting laid
>>538249505woe, 6 slowing hexes upon thee
>>538245814how is one supposed to play vyper?
>>538250012Cooldown reduction dagger spam
>>538248491mina's damage wasn't buffed
>>538248768>she has 1 less base stamina than default.tbf she also has faster stamina regen then the default and both casts of her 2 teleport reset air actions so you can do some pretty goofy air chains with some stamina items + locket
What I hate the most about this game is when bad matches turn into death spirals where if you don't immediately run to the fight and die the enemy team will instantly win the game, but because you never stop dying you end up with no soulsI don't know how to deal with that, it feels like you just have to rely on your team but I'm (deservedly) in ELO hell so I can't
is there no item to strengthen the slowing effects of abilities that already have slows?
>>538247512one of the most fun kits in the game
>teammate and I take out last guardian in yellow lane>other teammate in blue lane spam pings yellow walker and wants us to push it>we push up>I keep glancing at my map as I see my FOUR other teammates jungling, not pulling any aggro or applying any pressure>tell the other guy in yellow to retreat, and as I'm backing off I see him get dogpiled by 4 heroes>tell the faggot that was pinging us that if he wants us to push he and the rest of the team need to pull some aggro>silencesome people don't realize how much they fuck over their teammates with their bullshit.
>>538250532What do you mean by instantly lose? You can definitely split push in this game to delay a loss depending on your hero
>>538247559The DPS is actually the same if you compare "equal" damage items vs fire rate items. But anti-fire rate still lessens the effects of any bullet proc debuffs. Obviously this applies to characters like haze or infernus but it also affects items like tesla bullets or lucky shot which have a % chance to hit. The slower they shoot, the worse those items become. Sure it's not an outright counter but neither is bullet resistance. If you get more damage items then you're gonna deal more damage whether they have resist or not. Resist only lowers how much extra damage you're doing.
Talon>many arrows, huge hitbox>owlYamato>one slash>a few resist buffsParadox>one carabine shot>retarded swap inb4:>b-but slash does 145 of damage and the arrow only 8080x4 = 320 (no distance restrictions, no cooldown, no charging time)How is this balanced again?
Yamato's fully charged 1st skill at lvl5>330dmgTalon at lvl 2 of his arrows>560dmgYoushi is a faggot who'd like to fuck snakes, deadlock is in beta and unplayable
>>538251676i really don't know what your point here is supposed to be
Grey Talon when Yamato presses 2 on him>instantly deadYamato when Grey Talon presses 2>Yamato presses 2 and instantly kills him
>>538252163Don't forget she can press 4 to dodge his 4
>>538252062You might note they have more than one ability and GT's kit is ass outside of arrow
>>538252163lmao what the fuck are you talking about, Yamato's second does like 100 of damage and her first does another 300, it's 400 of damage at best. You retarded rusniger, Talon can oneshot you for 500 with just one arrow. >>538252216Good luck pressing ult 5 times in 5 seconds to avoid 4 arrows and the owl you dumb fuck
>>538252404>disarm and silencer is ass comparable to 75 aoe damageare you nuts?
>>538249483monstergirls/boys, obviously.
I want to solo queue and get out of niggerhell MMR, what hero?
>>538252406>ltg niggerlover is retardedNo surprises there
>>538252406I GIVE YOU: A BOON.>2 onto talon>3>1, charge depending on circumstance>4>enhanced refreshed 2>instant full charge 1>3 if he's still aliveyour patron gives freely.
>whining about talonis it 2024 again
evens I queue with Mina as only high priorityodds I watch TI and jack off
I'm still doing bad but I had my first deathless game where I still contributed to teamfights since I picked the game back up. Dynamo really is so much easier than Sinclair, I should have swapped back a while agoRan a 1 build, might try to do something more support+ult focused after I get a proper hang of this one
>>538252618>2 onto taloncatch a few arrows with your forehead for more than a half of your health while you at >3nice 75 of damage bro >1he flies away while your shit is charging, you can do 300 of damage if you're lucky>420% resist won't save you from another two arrows and the owl
>>538252921talon can not fire more than 1 arrow per second, unless he has rapid recharge and is instantly firing them without charging.yamato's 3 is nearly instant, and has a hefty heal attached to it.yamato's 1 outranges talon's 2. heavily.yamato's 4 is 40% resist, a big heal, and refresher. not to mention a period of invulnerability.you are not an ardent yamato defender, clearly. you don't even know how she works. what is your true game here?
>>538253246no, what's your endgame here? it's clear to everybody Yamato is shit and Talon is OP>>538248946
Explain how victor can ever be fun and well designed? After shiv you'd think they'd learn their lesson but nope now he is literally unkillable to the point he has a free life too so even burst/silence/stun method wont work because all your shit goes on cooldown. He's just an ultimate stat-check, either he's higher networth or you are and there's nothing else that matters
spirit vyper really is the way to playYou just roam around and chuck your cancer shanks that slow people and drain their staminaYou don't even have to build for super heavy damage you can just build cooldown and a couple tier 3's and then just build utility items
>mo and krill ult someone>they get rescue beamed>it drags you with itwhy is this allowed?
What if you could deny Victor's ult by silencing him when he dies?
>>538253246>alon can not fire more than 1 arrow per second you say it like Yamato can use her 1st two times in a second and not just once in 10 seconds+charging timewhat's your point you fucking retard
>>538253578Would be cool so at least he has to buy debuff remover or something instead of pure tank. Or have him manually activate it so he cant just play at 0.1% hp with no risk
>>538253623good luck with learning the game newfriend, unfortunately it seems your personality is incompatible with reading information presented to you directly and clearly.hopefully a few more talon arrows to the dome will help you learn.
anyone else got a victor fatigue? He is in almost every single game and even if he feeds early he can just afk farm and scale to be a 1v6 monster. Disgusting fucking design
Frankchads dabbing on the gun sissies
Well this was miserable.
They really did save the best for last
>>538253895see>>538253443
I main drifter and have viper as my secondary to do a stun version of roaming drifter.
>>538253872you fucking retarded mook go test it, put Talon against Yamato of the same level and see who wins
>>538253578Imagine if you could delay his resurrection by shooting the middle of the zone or somethingIt gives diminishing returns the longer you do it
How do you build Paige that doesn't suck ass in combat?
>>538254005>he upvoted his enemy who beat him>healcuck
What did Yoshi mean by this huge hitbox difference?
>>538253578>brick the entire hero
>>538250650Just get more slows :)
is victor also a they themsince he's made of like 7 different niggas
>>538255056But Victor is literally like a zombie with rotting corpse how can a woman enjoy that. Really just be 7 foot tall and that is it??
>>538255154He's a HE/THEM since all of his parts are undoubtly male.
>>538255238he's got aurathe kind that women like
Holy shit magicians hex is an AOE!!!!!
>>538255056Who's taller Abrams or Victor?
>>538255238Well that and conventionally attractive face, and a mountain of muscles, and a vulnerable personality. Besides the game doesn't fully present him as a corpse, the skin tone and texture is in no way ''dead'', so he looks less like a shambling collection of bodyparts and more like a pale guy with a lot of scars.
>>538255056I think Victor was a nerd who wanted a perfect body to fuck baddies like Mina so he did it to himself
>>538255238Victor is probably pretty fresh. He's revived by science.
>>538255238There are women out there fucking tweakers
Veil walker good on spirit drifter y/n?
>>538254901>>he upvoted his enemy who beat himWhy wouldn't I? This is a game, and that Ivy was playing well.>>healcuckPaige is a support hero. What are my options?
When are we getting buybacks
>>538255779Never, I hope.
>>538255056>6ft tall pretty face long hair huge torso muscles everywhere when will we have some smoking hot females like this? it's unfair
>>538255761Build slows and debuffs not healerinos
>>538255779Spam yoshi pm to lower the respawn timer to under 20 seconds.
>>538255761cuck mentality, would insist on being useless rather than build for dmg and contribute
>>538255917Kys Jeet
Another game ruined by a victor with 50k souls being a giga faggot. >can't ignore him or he shits on you with constant damage/escalating exposure>can't use all your spells on him to kill him twice or everyone else on his team kills youwhat the FUCK do you do>inb4 splitpush against the unkillable guy that wants to splitpush anyway
>>538254901>3 person barrier is healcuckingYouget out of my community
>>538255238women love gross serial killers and you act surprised
let ava run through boxes again >:(
>>538256751Tell your gun carry to get Crippling Headshot and kill his ass.
>>538256904mein fuhrer....the team....has no gun carry
>>538256940Then tell Ivy to buy it
>>538256904I chose to go spirit drifter I was the gun carry
As a Black African gentleman, whom should I main?
>>538257172Holliday
Why is Seven's stun even a thingit's so boring and lowskill
>being a rat and splitpushing all game is the most optimal strategywow what a fun game deadtards
>>538257172VICTOR cause it's like dragging your knuckles across the keyboard
>>538257518I never win when I try to rat, despite it being my favorite way to play
>>538257336i want them to turn it into a skillshot and watch sevens WR plummet
>Enemy Infernus disconnects relatively early>We still get stompedI used to be happy with the state of matchmaking when I came back to this game after a long absence, but now that I'm back in the system, every other match is a stomp.
>>538235697i genuinely don't understand the "critique" of MOBAs (and other video games) that basically just boils down to you describing what the game is versus what this other game is>in an FPS, you kill people fast and they always have the same amount of HP>but in this game, there's items which can change that...ok? Is that a full statement?you just described what deadlock is and how it worksand we like it that wayi like that there's 200 items and all these abilitiesthat's why we play itif you wanted a normal FPS without items or abilities, there's plenty of games which can do that for youwhy is there this comparison
>>538257518definitely not true thoughbeit
>>538257860>in Mario I know for sure I can jump on a goomber and kill it>in Silksong... uh... well I don't have enough essence to use this ability which works on this enemy and produces this effectthis is so dumb
>>538235697>having an advantage early usually translates to having an advantage late and winningnever understood why this is supposed to be a bad thing
What's the play to run urn at low MMR, let's say more specifically in the midgame when soul count is even and most if not all players are alive? Do you tell your team about it in advance and hope they all run to the urn to protect you? Do you grab it when a group fight is already happening and most enemies are engaged in it? If you've tried it before that match and multiple enemies run to the delivery spot, do you hold the urn hostage closer to your base and tell your team to push?
>>538258004it feels demoralizing to keep playing for 30 more minutes knowing that you're probably possibly most likely gonna lose so it don't matterthat's why there should be comeback potential!!!like in dota 2!Dota 2 never added the give up early button that league has because there's a lot of comeback potential and indeed we see a lot of comebacks from bad starts
>>538258106>that's why there should be comeback potential!!!and there is. especially in lower elo (everything below eternus) people throw games all the fucking time for no reasonit's so easy to throw in this game
>>538258106I'd agree if the draft wasn't completely random. Right now one team can get all the late game carries so they can just run it down a lane to delay the game so even if they go down 30k souls they will win late game due to better scaling.
viper actually is a based hero. What should I imbue for cooldown? My dagger or ult?
>>538258021wait for at least 2 retards on the other team to randomly die to something stupid and then run that shit while they're respawning.
>>538257860Thats the case of FPS player's ego getting bruised over being unable to learn how to play and blaming the game instead of his lack of patience and reading comprehension
>Over 300 hours in>Still stuck fluctuating between Initiate and SeekerI don't get it. How do you get better at this game?
>>538258106But most players are literally retarded so you can capitalise on one enemy mistake and still turn the game
>>538258710how would you feel if you haven't eaten breakfast this morning?
>>538246501
>>538258845I would have been hungry right now. Why are you asking?
>>538257740i think the better nerf would be to reduce it's range and remove the aoe upgrade.the issue with the stun is that it scales far too well. it's godlike in lane and then gets an upgrade that makes it excellent in teamfights. ideally it should just be a tool for early game/getting picks not a teamfight tool.
>>538248905kek
>>538258381DaggerWith duration extender and max cooldown you get 100% uptime on the (albeit fading) slow
>>538257336>tfw I remember the numbers it used to have before it got nerfedI miss stun build Seven with echo shard. If it was positioned just right you could stun whole teams
i hate fleetfoot so fucking much
>>538252540We have 2 monstergirls in the game and no monsterguy or whatever>but Abrams and VictorNot monsters, maybe Victor but he's too conventionally attractive anyway.
>>538259168Why?
>>538259343>no monsterguyviscous dumbass
>>538259343Billy?
>>538259495probably got dabbed on by a billy or abrams melee canceling
How do I build Mirage? Do I play around the marks? Just getting 4 stacks take forever, let's not talk about getting 8, might as well play Infernus who doesn't require any set up to start dealing good amount of damage.
>drafting Victor against a full spirit damage enemy teamThis is just unfair
>melee Yamato is worse than Melee Geist for some reasonbruhs
I can only make damage impact as Geist, what are some other characters for me?
>>538251676yamato is tanky and can throw herself directly into an enemygrey talon is dead if someone gets close to him and has slowing hex
>>538258710800+ hours in at this point but still can't rank up due to playing with a friend that goes 0/16 each time I play with him. And when I play alone, I tend to stomp people. Am very sorry.
>>538260641>throw yourself into an enemy>do no damagevs>stay in safety>do gazillion of damage >implaying first is betterRetard
Tell me about Victor... why the stare?
>>538259743fleetfoot cancel is STILL in the game?
>>538260893dumb fuck
>>538261024*in bane voice* of course
>Teammate always farming never pushes tells everyone to retreat when pushing walker even when 3 are dead>Lowest deaths but also lowest assistsWhat do you call this kind of player?
>>538261252your lategame carry who cares heavily about his k/d
>>538261252rice farmer/ricer
Best solo hermit asocial friendless incel queue hero?
>>538261353Mina obviously
>>538261353paradox
>>538261298>Lategame carryWhat is this copeThat nigger was useless
>>538261252>What do you call this kind of player?Medusa
whered seven go
Gay Talon>fat old man that dies instantly if he goes past tower>sits in the air propelled by his elderly farts>can shoot down blue chew arrows that he misses constantly because he's senile>places down a shitty trap that does nothing if you walk into it and he will never use outside of laneYamato>1 chunks your health>2 inserts her in someones asshole>3 heals a percentage of her health, slows fire rate, and does damage>4 instantly refreshes her abilities, makes her one fire faster, and gigabuffs her resistances
>>538261478i'm playing devil's advocate for that nice young gentlman
>>538261575arrow does more damage so talon is better
>>538261587Very well
Mo and krill is actually just a better drifter let's be honest
>female samurai>female sheriff>female mechanic>female assassin>female sniper>female mob
>vampire lady hits you 3 times>3 hits takes 80% of your hp off>her ult does like 90% of your hp in 1 second>lash does his ult once>does one billion dmg while stunthe balance in this game is hilarious bad, makes me think Icefrog forgot he made dota.
>>538261668Mo and Krill doesnt melt a entire team 1v6 if they get a slight soul lead
>queue at 4am, what's the worst that can happen?>queue pops in 2 seconds>one of the most unbalanced matches i've ever playedtook the enemy tower at 5 minutes and then i just held the creep wave at my tower by tanking the troopers with monster bullets. they legitimately had nothing to do because they were too weak early game to farm neutrals and i'd just kill them if they tried to walk close to farm troopers.what the fuck, matchmaking?
>>538261252A baiter. They literally do nothing to help the team can't even push waves, doing nothing but bait their team and hope they win the game for himself as he plays the most pussy least interactive way possible until he gets comfort items. He will probably join one (1) late game teamfight and die without even pressing his active items
>>538261713Why is Mina allowed to have this retarded faggot passive that instantly eats your hp after getting hit a few times? At least other heroes like Infernus has a slow burn that you can purge reliably.
>>538261023What is the point of side split dress if she is going to wear thights. Why did they remove the thigh high stocking + garter combo. Why change her purse gun to this one. Unironically shitty redesign, bring back the old model yoshi, pls.
>>538261918because the people that pick her are mouthbreathers.just waiting for someone to ultmaxx veilwalker on her and just instantly get a free kill anywhere on the map every time her ult is up.
>>538259531Not unless his model gets reworked into a good monster and not just a humanoid translucent figure
>>538234221>lastI think you mean “Threadlocked”
>>538262354>someone comments on my webm>it's to talk about geist's thighs
>>538261918This is literally the identity of her whole character. Everything is about love bites. You just don't like mina.
im only as good as my team
>>538258106And then you get lobbies where the winners refuse to end because there's such a huge soul disparity that you can't possibly fight back and the game has 0 defense against that.
>>538263201She's the only really tasteful female hero in the game, what did you expect.
What does buildup increases lethal venom mean? Adds more to hte cap? Or just like they lost hp. I dont get it. They already lose hp if you did damage with bullets
This map is too fucking small for 6 people honestly, and i don't get randomly placing jungle camps on fucking roofops
>>538263578Nah it's better than the previous version trust me. It was aids with all the farming before
>>538261572he has better things to do than be a punching bag
>>538259343found the artist and those are supposed to be male pecs.
>>538263578paco...
>>538263578>and i don't get randomly placing jungle camps on fucking roofopsthe roof jungle camps are actually good, they should place them all up there instead of these shit narrow rooms.
How do I play Lash without sucking? Everytime I see other people play him, they deal like 1000 damage with the grapple + stomp + flog combo, yet when I do it, I deal like 10 and then immediately die. Should I be trying to finish enemies off, that are already nearly dead?
>>538261918because it's the only way she's dealing damage? her bullets deal basically no damage so instead of doing some damage over time with bullets most of her damage gets backloaded and happens instantly
>>538263578Map needs to be bigger if only to have a huge midboss temple again
>>538261353Vindicta
>>538263971Max your spirit items and maybe 1-2 vitality. Make sure you're launching from high up whether from your tether skill or setting up in advance
>>538263971the game itself answers all your questionsSo here's how this works, I fly in, fwoosh - boom! Then I kick them in the face. you're probably not smart enough to follow the 2 step guide to lash maybe stick to Ivy?
Yamato should look like this
Those rooms on the corner by the walkers couldn't be more useless, there's never a reason to go over there. Shitty map design.
>>538263784idk I stole this pic from random telegram channel
>>538263971Pretty much yeah. Lash relies on cooldown burst damage, his gun is terrible and his 'escape' cooldown is not as reliable. Similar to Pocket, you have to disrupt on-going fights, but you can't greed as much because, unlike Pocket, your gun is bad, you have no damage amp and your sustained DPS is terribly low and only good for finishing off people on very low health. You can initiate with your ult too, but never with your other cooldowns.
>>538264154
>>538264154only good thing about this shit manga is this character's design
>>538235920League of legends.the team with Veigar and Smolder on it isn't doing shit early but will dominate late (if allowed to get to it)
>>538264154TRUE
>supposed shooter and "movement" game>can't actually carry with good mechanicstoo unrewarding for competitive shooter people and too hard for moba fagswho is this game meant to appeal again?dimwits?
is this a good paige build?
>>538242950>THE most braindead characters in the gamecongrats, hope you don't think this is impressive.
How do you guys deal with toxic players?
>>538264659skill issue
>>538242950Contacting Yoshi. He confirmed you will have a 6-7 loss streak tomorrow to balance it out, gotta keep it 50/50.
>>538264659drooling adhd zoomers who are addicted to dopamine, unfortunately that audience jumps from game to game depending on what the popular streamers are playing
The only way to fix deadlock is to make gun builds viable on everyone. Imagine if *gasp* in a shooter game you actually had to be good at shooting people?
>>538264804just laugh at themunless they're making a good point but they aren't, right?
>>538264659>too hard for MOBA fagsNigger says what?>can't carry with good mechanicsAnyone you headshot consistently on a gun hero will get melted no matter what.
>>538264279>TelegramFaggot.
I got a compliment while playing PocketMy gamer cred just shot upI feel so happy...
>>538264857I heard they released this new game called Overwatch which utilizes this exact concept. Maybe that's more your speed
>>538264804You stop being a pussy and be toxic as well, complaining about toxicity just means you're a low testosterone male. Grow a spine.
>>538251676you've been crying how Yamato is bad for fucking days now.she's not bad, she's good.YOU'RE the fucking shitter.post rank, trashcan.
the next poll event should be polling the playerbase on removing a character from the game.
>die>look at damage received >29 damage from trooperwow thanksreally helpful
>>538264804I make crying baby noises until they stop whining out of shameIt works 100% of the time
>>538265243the last time i looked at it it said victor dealt like 2000 damage to me.victor was on my team.
>>538265187Excluding the new characters, who would actually win that?
>>538265187Doornigger number 1 spotFuck you and your perma stun carts killing me from full hp forcing me to go 3 spirit resist items just so I dont get deleted
>>538264659Deadlock is way easier than dota.
>>538264895Vindicta used to be the go to glass cannon "hitscan" tracking god sort of character back in day before they gutted her gun. Who else can even somewhat benefit from aim other than haze and infernus oh also don't suck dicks? Even with haze and infernus you will get stat checked by spirit fags who can't hold their crosshair straight. It's just so odd the is even a shooter at this point when clearly they don't want people with good mechanics to carry.
>>538265187i nominate mina
>>538248507Viscous
Every Dynamo player is a Redditor I just cant prove it yet
What's your go-to buy/ability order on different heroes?On Mina mine's>extra spirit, spirit burst, reactive barrier>3 points in rakeIt gives a massive sustain boost to get around Mina's early squishiness
>>538265631Every support player is beta male which is reddit imo
>>538265754>Support playerYou were the redditor the whole time
>>538264804you call them a nigger and get comms banned for a month
>>538265353maybe they can just do a bracket style tournament format with the entire current roster on it.every game gets you a vote so you can see which characters are annoying to active players.
>>538265864go back t𐐬 reddit ivy fag
>the is evenok ESL, go back to church
>>538263963This. Why does the map have so many tiny indoor spaces when cameras and abilities are confused as hell by walls?
>>538265938>the game is evenit's that easy anonuse your brain to fill holes next time
why is ethereal shift 3x more expensive now
>>538257518people have smartened up and have realized that they can just reset as 3-4 and kill you and return to deathballing since your retarded faggot teammates are AFK in the jg and not shoving waves.it's alright if you're infuser Seven and can just ult the walker and the death ball jumping you but otherwise, nah.
>>538265925>IvyFagYeah you wish lil pupperino cappuccino Hey have you considered trying out Dynamo? I think he'd suit you
>>538258710I mean no offense, truly.but are you even building items or acknowledge there are other players on the map?would you kindly give me a replay?
>>538259343he's literally BLUE with HORNSbilly is a GOATdrifter is a VAMPIRE Infernus is BLACK victor is literally the FIRST monsterguy in literature
>>538261094>>538261575post one good Yamato build from eternus i'll wait
>>538266363isn't there like less than 500 eternus?sounds like exclusively for cheaters/group fags
Mystic reverb on petrify. Think about it, lockers.
>>538261094>7 days>5%retard
>>538264804I just straight up tell them to put a bullet into their brain or to put a shotgun into their mouth and that's usually enough to get them to shut the fuck up
I need to remake an account. Back when ranked was in the game and reset every week or whatever I would get ~emissary. I came back and every game is Seeker or Initiate and I dominate, but am not good enough to carry every game. No one has any idea how to play the game down and I'm losing my fucking mind
>>538264804Use the mocking voice and repeat what they say
>>538266117I am personally responsible for this and many nerfs to pocket last year
>>538266363doesn't matter because you're not in Eternus lmaooo!
>>538264804if it's just a guy lashing out in general I just ignore them, if they're going against some other poor guy I try to support him
The map is just too small, every encounter devolve into a 6v6 brawl
>>538266363your retarded ritualist ass couldn't even figure out how to use the build, too many actives for your retarded smooth brained fingers.
>reach lategame as wraith>suddenly everything and everyone starts meltingdamn
>game starts>haze raging about their victor lane partner being dogshit>assume the haze is just going in and dying over and over again>later in that match I am 1v2ing people in the jungle as mo and krill>look up and see Victor sitting AFK farming on the roof directly above me at full health instead of helping me>he ends game with highest souls and 2 kills 4 assistsreminder that people who are raging in chat aren't always in the wrong.
>>538266338>but are you even building items or acknowledge there are other players on the map?I do.>would you kindly give me a replay?Here is my latest match: 41389943First time playing Warden in a long time.
>>538267196>>538266765We both know Yamato is shit and only works if you have a team that's why you won't post the build
>>538266338Actually, never mind.>building itemsWhat does this mean?
I think briefcase neighbor was yoshi's favorite hero next to geist
>>538267421most characters are shit without a team including gay talon, what's your point. the only characters that can 1v6 are drifter and victor
>>538267421>WeI see useful Yamatos, you're a fucking shitter hard stuck in Alchemist because you spend every day comparing fucking GT to Yamato as if they have even remotely similar roles.you're fucking BAD, retard.you will NEVER escape Alchemist
>playing support ivy>keep the fuck out of my team alive>make sure they don't die during our final push by giving them constant healing and debuffing the enemy team>have 41k healing at the end of the match>not a single "thank you" during the whole game or a commendationI know commendations don't do jackshit but come on, at least be thankful I kept your ass alive
>>538266117because it's very good
>>538267581Post at least two game stats with useful Yamato, let's see that 15k damage in 30 minutes
>>538267632nobody wants a healcuck bot on their team, I promise all of them would rather you be an actual character on the map instead of a shit ass heal/ult bot.also>PLEASE THANK ME FOR DOING THIS SHIT JOBdid you thank your 20k objective damage vyper?did you thank your 60k player damage Geist?no?then fuck off.Supporttrannies are so fucking cancer.
>>538267840>healbotI was picking off low hp enemies with her 4, debuffing them, and making sure the enemy victor didn't heal jackshit with decay + healbane
>targets can only be hit once per multishotLAME
>playing Haze>start holding M2 to zoom in>start hitting headshots thrice more often>everyone starts getting melted like never before even in laneholy shit I unlocked the ancient chinese ADS tech
>>538267632I don't expect thanks when I have the highest damage or hit a huge ult either.
>Get to ritualist>Team is somehow even shittier than the people I had in alchemist and arcanist
>>538268548this is the literal exact opposite for meI come from CS/OW/TF2 and ADSing makes me aim legit twice as bad.I had to unbind my ADS key while playing Haze and Infernus so i'd stop trolling myself and missing all of my shots by ADSing.
Twice in a row I've had a game where it was a complete steamroll teamwise. Even the guy in my lane who admitted who he was new was doing better than these guys what the fuckWhy is ranked such a schizo fest.
>lane against holiday>keeps landing headshots on me even when im behind creepsuh huh
>>538268906it's not 'ranked'
>>538269054yes it is
>>538268948>>keeps landing headshots on me even when im behind creepswhy the fuck would this matter?minions are a 1/3rd of your size?
>>538269169not when im crouching in a pack of them
>>538268948quit baiting
Wait I thought this general died a few months ago?
I bet the druid has a multi facetted 3 ability where you press it then select between 1,2 or 4 for different sub abilities to plant a variety of crap.
Do you think we'll get some sort of gun customization? I've been thinking that this might happen ever since I noticed that everyone's guns have names.
>abandon once>15min penalty>abandon twice>5 hour penaltyshit ok, I'll just sit in spawn and wait 30 minutes.
>>538269779Beyond skins, I doubt it
>>538269748>cat has a balding lineup fur patternit's actually so over
What other genuine tips would you give a seeker 5 to escape seeker 5?
Dynamocrackers need HRT death.
Has anyone tried a strategy where everyone on the team gives all their unsafe souls to a single carry heroYou can just kill yourself to neutrals to drop them
>>538234659His?
>>538269925I only left 2 games, one time because my electricity went out so it was literally out of my control, and the other because my team was being completely steamrolled so I really didn't want to tolerate 40 mins of that shitI wish there was a surrender option desu, it kinda bummed me that I had to wait 6 hours to play when I only left 2 games out of over 30
>>538270308thats the jokefags know pocket is a dude and reffered with he many times but want to bend over backwards for their retardation to make sense
>>538270473>no abandon optionforgot that was actually thing, i know league has it but what other game does?
Where's the Mina foot porn Anon promised me nearly two weeks ago?
is it just me or is victor completely fucking unkillable, even without his revive?
>>538270585God, Mina and Paige have done irreparable damage to Deadlock to the point where we have tranny porn addicts like this unironically in this thread now.grim, really grim.
>>538264690Why is split shot in midgame, the whole point of split shot on paige is to crush your lane.
>>538234659it's really funny that yesterday a mina was talking shit in all chat, called someone a girl, I said they will never be a woman, then they started crying and sperging about pocket being nonbinary.
>>538270623Just you
>>538270473go back to league, fag
Even the Eternus players (Abrams) in my games play like shit bruh
Yuro lobby?
>>538269995ignore your team, play split pushing m1 carries, only show up if they're at your high ground.you either learn how to read the map and when you can safely hit their buildings, or you remain trapped forever.
>>538270864>NA Eternus
>>538270675I main Lash if that helps.
>>538270623he is if he gets a lead
Doorman is really fun but when I get him I'm basically accepting I'm losing my game, he's very team reliant and even when I build gun on him you don't threaten objectives much. You can also get focused out really easily he falls apart like paper.I don't know how to buff him without being cancer but maybe some QoL changes to his portals and making his cart do impact damage (without the stun) without any points would be a start. Maybe also give him scaling fire rate with spirit but at a very small rate. How are you guys doing with him?
>>538270675God is in Deadlock now?
>>538267235*firerate slows you*
>>538271359My impression is that he's kinda a anti-carry if that makes sense. If someone is 1 v 11ing the game then he's perfect for singling them out.
>>538267235I shit on lobbies with Wraith but she might be the most miserable hero to play when behind or even equal souls, you're kind of team reliant at least early game and if they completely fall apart you're just fucked. Makes me not want to play her.
>>538271359It kinda feels like a coinflip whether or not I win with him but he's fun so it doesn't matter much to me.
>>538270864>goes mostly green>omg why don't they do damage???pretty self explanatory. in higher elos people double jump the shoulder charge too.
>>538271638just split push
should I be timing item combinations with soul breakpoints for skill levels?just seems like, lanes are tough, then there's a lot of farming until a team decides to stop taking random skirmishes and group up on a walker.
>>538271526He feels good for that in competent lobbies but when I'm in shitlow I'll ult someone and half my team that's waiting to util dump just hovers around them letting every other enemy rape the rest of the team, even if you ult the right person it can end up being a throw.
>play right click hero>buy split shot because i can't aimeasy
>>538241252uh oh
>>538271387quite literally yes
Daily reminder:Yamato is shit. Paradox too. GT is good.
>>538272124you're ritualist, nothing you say matters.
>Up on Doorman>Buy refresher and gun items>Just hold W down a sidelane constantly no matter what is happening anywhere on the map>Ult whoever comes to defend and kill objectives>Disappear through a portal if I think more than 2 enemies will show upAny /annoying cancer/ GODS here?
>>538271359He's definitely not a very stable hero. Even after the nerf building around his bell is probably the most reliable way to play him, though it might not be the most high impact in every game. Echo shard cart is also pretty good but it's more reliant on positioning and can be hard to utilize if fights are chaotic. Gun build can help you solo kill some people, but you won't match up to actual carries or melt objectives, so it's a bit more niche imo. Might be worth getting a few gun items early and pivoting to more utility, I haven't tested extensively.I always rush 2 points in bell for laning, then max cart. The rest depends on the match.
>Bullet resistance is OP as shit and completely neuters guns>Spirit resistance items all fucking suck and barely mitigate damageebin
>Drifter death mod fixedand just like that, i'm back to playing Drifter and enjoying playing against him.
>>538272343Spirit trannies were unironically going >UUH I DIED AS A SPIRIT CHARACTER, WHY CAN’T I BE THE BEST AT TEAM FIGHTING, AND THE BEST AT LANING, AND THE BEST AT 1V1, AND THE BEST LATE GAME, EARLY GAME, MID GAME AND IF I’M NOT I’M GONNA GO TO REDDIT AND COMPLAIN EVEN THOUGH SPIRIT IS THE MOST BROKEN IT’S EVER FUCKING BEEN OHHH I'M SO WEAK
>>538272343yeah items that practically nullify a spirit nuke every 10 seconds or give a 600+ barrier when taking spirit damage are... le bad
>signs you're reading probably the shittiest public build available
>>538272339I feel like his cart hixbox should be bigger or there should be a better way to use it, I find myself needing to rush knockdown to get value out of his 3 at least against competent players. Maybe they should just make it so range makes the cart bigger as opposed to affecting travel distance since that's usually useless.
the ONLY thing wrong with Doorman is his fucked ult visualyou'll be standing on top of someones locked body, see the key unlock and prep a 3 just for them to spawn 15 feet to your right and you whiff cart.THAT needs to be fixed the most.
did you know that pocket can 3 in doormans ult and not get damaged
>>538255714nothing is good on spirit drifter, don't play spirit drifter
>>538272672I don't think cart needs a buff, it's very good already and I think it's cool that it requires some skill to use. I want that to be part of Doorman's core identity, personally. And with doors you can always find an unexpected angle to toss a cart from, which is part of the fun.What I really think needs to be fixed is the placement of doors. Cart would be easier to use as well if you could reliably place a door behind people in the moment.
You only play Doorman to be an annoying faggot not to win, bonus points if you target the weakest player on the enemy team and gangstalk them. There's something so comical about holding W on the feeding player on the enemy team, there's a certain desperation in the way they try to run away from you while you get your hatecrime ready, it's like this panic because they know you're gonna make their KD worse and cause their team to groan and bitch at them even more.
>>538272801its bullshitive lost so many kills to this dumb shit
this is your reminder rank doesn't matter and 90% of matches right now are taking place below archon, the system is fucked>y-you're just coping!i am not claiming i deserve to be higher rank but you'd have to be an ubercontrarian to say the current system works
>>538273201I just want to play Doorman and hate crime Wraith players because they piss me off.
are you able to cast targeted abilities whilst shooting or is my mouse fucked?
>>538272801his ult should root and silence on release for like 0.25 seconds just to prevent this
We should make a team for /vg/ footy
>>538272339gun doorman relies heavily on cart for guaranteed headshots/burst damage too.best way to give doorman a meaningful buff is to give him cart stun on t2 like abrams shoulder charge. I would rearrange his cart upgrades to -> cast range increase 2 wall stun 3 big CD reduction
i play so much support that strangers have said "i love you" to me much more than my loved ones ever have
Can you still play with the old healthbars? They look better IMO
>>538235697are you even really meant to track breakpoints in mobas like this? i usually just think shit like "okay, i know they have ability A, i'll use ability B to bait it out then punish with ability C" or "oh, they're building spirit damage, i should pick up spirit resists" without really worrying much about the numbers, just shoot them and go "okay, are they low health now"
>>538274269the new ones have to be manually enabled
>>538272592>practically nullify a spirit nukeWow so 1 out 6 x3?
Do geist players think they're good when they spam their lane wide aoe 0 cooldown bomb
>made a vindicta rage calling me a subhuman manlet because i play pocketkek, get frogged
>>538255238
>>538268948Holliday is a magnet for aimbotters. The only reason her spirit build is meta is because it's humanly impossible to consistently hit headshots to make Crackshot's DPS surpass barrels, but if you were to hypothetically only hit headshots, it would most likely be the greatest and most applicable DPS in the game.
>>538255238He probably smells like a corpse.
Sorapoi if you’re here can you please draw Mina forcing anon to lick her sweaty, hairy pussy or sniff her butthole?
>>538272662>2+ tier 4s with no components to break up the cost>minmaxes around a single element of the kit>has some shitty meme itemYep, it's public build time
>>538236285split shot paige seems funyou basically build her with bullet debuffs and turn the entire fight area to an unavoidable mess of bulletsit's still mostly a support role but ive seen it dominate multiple times w/ slowing bullets, leech, and other various on-bullet affects, since her bullet base damage is pretty high
>>538272662Unironically just copy streamers' builds. Top public builds are gimmicky or shit 99% of the time
>>538237785homosexuality is repressed over there and the game is an exclusive sausage festim not as surprised as you, but im just as mad
>>538277797Homosexuality is repressed in Russia because without that cultural stigma those little fags would have an HIV rate of 100% instead of like 55%
>>538265187sinclair or grey talon
>>538277079sorapoi is friends with icefrog on steam and i feel like people don’t talk about that enough
>>538272662How good is Syphon bullets, anyway?
Literally how the fuck is it allowed to that Billy is a 100% upgrade of Abrams?fucking retarded yoshi nigger should get around to redesigning old heroes if he shits out these broken niggers
I don't think it would be possible for Valve to make a character more fun than The Doorman.
>>538270913>earn how to read the map and when you can safely hit their buildingshow do I do this
>>538278012>it's real
>>538278119I play both and billy fucking wishes he could pin 4 heroes to a wall and crush their skulls in while tanking every ability and debuff the enemy team has
>>538255238He can feel pain, so he isn't that dead and rotting. Whoever made him did a good job matching parts proportion wise. And using the head of someone conventionally attractive also helps.
>>538237785>zippertits on Victorfucking kek'd
>>538278119Billy has no hard CC you monkey brained bitch.
>>538278012To be fair, I'm friends with a lot of people on Steam that I know nothing about. Mainly because of Deadlock. It's not like I know what they do, nor do I care to know.
>>538278119Abrams is more of a tank with CCBilly is more UNGA BUNGA rushing in, spraying his mag and combo on you and hoping it either kills and forces you to retreat.
>gimmick builds... LE BAD!dont care i'm still running shadow veil max speed bebop
>>538277962Isn't HIV high in Russia because of drugs?
>>538273896which characters do you play?
>>538278271>>538278382>>538278530and one is dogshit with 5 year long cooldownand the other is spamming shit day and night while being nearly as tanky with a not ABSOLUTE SHIT gun
when are they reworking or better yet deleting mo and krill from the game?
>>538278484He only has like 50 friends, it's not like he accepts every random request
I think phantom strike is my new favorite item.
>>538278762Just buy knockdown and bully the fat pig.
>>538277079his art is a treasure>>538278012>it’s realwtf
>>538278012>>538278269it's not true, icefrogs steam account is called wizard boss
>>538279274One of the Deadlock announcements was posted by a steam account named Icefrog
Is Deadlock gonna be releasing in a few months considering the VAs are announcing who they're voicing and another HL3 release leak again for November 18th which I'm assuming is actually for this game.
>>538279813nothis shelf in the hideout has tiny versions of the statues on the main map, 70% of the props here are untextured and the lighting is doing some heavy lifting. same deal with the main map, they need way more than 2 months to buff things out
>>538279813they said they wanted 50~ characters in the game before they release an open beta.also consider the older characters who still need model redos.late 2026 at the earliest.
>>538280205that is the shelf that will track my achievements
Came back to this game since the new update, been in the beta since August last year and fucking hell, how you people can stomach this game now, I have no idea.The art direction they're going in with the menu is utter shit, but the main issue is these new heroes. This Mina character has an ult that just fucks you upside the head, so you buy knockdown or whatever, but even then you can get fucked around. So you try and communicate with your team but 1. They don't use mics or 2. They don't speak English, so you just watch 5 people run around like rats caught in a cage. Same goes for Victor. Just absolutely unstoppable to the average idiot and it turns out, the average idiot is in your lobby. The most egregous thing is that this game is just boring now. It's just flat out not fun. What's the point in busting ass for 30-40 minutes when you can get some retard on your team fucking it up for you, and then your skill rating goes down? I know it's not the end of the world but it's still fucking annoying. Why we can't have independant skill ratings based on performance + win/loss + KDA, I don't know. Feels like it'd be a fairer system, but I guess Valve wants to make a nice skinner box for the world. In short, with this game, it's 6 stack or just don't bother. Don't even touch solo queue. inb4 'it's just beta, why you have to be mad?' Not mad. Just pointing out the issues with this shit game.
>>538279813Maybe a beta release. There's still so much more work they have for Deadlock. Most of the map interiors are still bordering on being blank boxes and the jungle creeps need a complete overhaul. Most of the cast still needs artpasses as well. Even the models and animations of the new heroes still need plenty of polishing up.
>>538280356that or they blow the wall out and add a new areaI doubt the layout is anything close to final, the Perfect World insider mentioned that they wanted to add NPCs with quests and other interactive things to play with while you queue
>>538280490>getting fucked by the mina ultlmao just shoot her
this guy is just being retarded and posting clickbait right?
>>538280542>t they wanted to add NPCs with quests and other interactive things to play with while you queuewill be necessary with how long the queues are....
>Victor overnerfed >Drifter undernerfedWhy is IceFraud like this?
>nigfernus hits me 3 times>instantly on fire>does 5 billion damage with 0 spirit itemsLOL
>>538280334>they said they wanted 50~ characterssource? that's pretty low for a 6v6 dota-like imo
>>538280691games ready to be released so no game changing mods in queue chuddy
>>538280542>NPCs with questsOh I imagine it will be fun to have your teammates forever feeding because some NPC told them they gotta do some retarded game-throwing quests.
Which hero should I play while at low focus and listening to a youtube video on my ADHD second monitor?
There are only 3 actual tanks:>Victor>Abrams>Moe/KrillThere are only 4 actual supports:>Paige>Ivy>Dynamo>KelvinSurely they won't launch this game with a roster in a shape like this... right?
>Drifter buckbreaking Billy
>>538280928they haven't said anything other than they're working on more heroes and don't have a timeline for open beta
>>538281434Warden is a tank
>>538281434>M&K>tankA tank has to be able to do damage. M&K is an anti-carry and when his ultimate is on cooldown he is not a hero that exists and that's it.
>>538281564No he's not.He's a bruiser like Shiv, and Billy, but he's not a tank.
>>538281523peak
>>538281523Can she handle that rotting dick?
someone teach me how to viktor properly
>>538282048Hold w.
>>538281656A tank needs to be durable, and have at least one engagement tool to start team fights.M+K have that with the burrow and pulse.
>>538282048green itempurple itemspirit resilienceescalating exposureinfuserhealing tempo
>>538281656this is the most retarded post I have ever read in my lifenext you will tell me >a dps has to be able to healand >a healer has to be able to take damage
>>538280691they seem to have insider information.
>absolutely dominate laning phase>already cleared their walker before they're pushing our guardian>blink>enemy team now has 30k more souls that usWhy does this happen to me every game? I have to assume I'm doing something wrong
>>538280691Similar "FOV" tricks used to exist for Dota 2 (made your camera way more zoomed out so you could see more of the game at once, obviously fog of war was still there) and you would get banned for abusing it
>>538282493>achievement systemfake and gay
>>538282493>they seem to be making up insider information
>>538234221i don't think I can play deadlock on weekends anymore. Only the most absolute beginners and mouth breathers play in the lower ranks.Just did two matches where one a seven invaded my lane and proceeded to die a bunch to wraith.Now in my current game a calico died within the first 30 seconds of the match, she is 0/10 and is only roaming around the map doing nothing
>>538282546You need to push your advantage. If the enemy is behind they get extra souls for everything they do, so if you’re ahead you need to take their camps and boxes. Farming even while you’re ahead means the enemy comes out on top
If I'm being hit by huge spirit nukes (for example Dynamo stomp + mystic reverb), what should be my immediate course of action? (such as items to buy) Sorry I'm new
>>538281523>game comes out>Halloween event with cosmetic rewards>20 different female heroes get the bride of frank skin
>>538282762Anything that causes CC will proc reactive barrier, that's a 1600 item that will almost always see useAside from that, build spirit res items
>>538282793This thing, probably.
>>538282762>>538283073spirit shielding as well, gives you a good amount of tank against spirit nuke comps
>>538282762Spirit resistance, stamina items (to jump over it), spirit shielding (gives you a barrier after being nuked), spellbreaker if late in the game, debuff remover if you need to get rid of the slow/reverb in a team fight, etc.
>>538283095Oops, meant for >>538282762
>>538282249>>538282101should i even be using my 3 as well seems to get me killed more often then not assuming im not being nuked by something else
>>538280205>>538280334>>538280513>Implying this would take more than a couple months to fix some lighting, trophies, etc
>>538283387Buy all of the spirit resist items and infuser.
>>538282493>3 modesplease no
>>538282748Feels like every game I play I get a team who are allergic to pushing. Even when half the enemy team are dead they just don't do anything. One of them is in a VC with me and I'm so close to crashing out on him.
I play Doorman, win my lane every game and deal top or near top damage every game while shitting out stuns left and right.Im still losing 75% of my games because my teammates are too retarded to play as a team. Solo queue is not viable if you arent playing a carry.
>>538283534What's the matter, afraid that dota lite will have 0 players because it will be the worst mode?
>>538283387>should i even be using my 3 as wellNot before you have spirit resilience (extremely important), spirit lifesteal to build into infuser, and mystic vulnerability/escalating exposure later.I really, really like Radiant Regeneration on Victor because it feeds Healing Tempo and lets you spam abilities at low CD but it may be my low MMR talking
>>538283657dota real already has multiple different modes and dota real is still the most played one thoughever
>>538280205>Win 4 games in a row with a average kda above 10>Still Initiate 1I don't get it.Does every high elo player have over 1000 games or something?
>>538282716Yeah my games this Saturday were pretty awfulGuess I'll just make builds instead
>>538282793paige wouldnt mind sharing vic
>>538282356Why do you think tanks are scary, you retarded nigger? Because if you are close to them, then they are deadly. You know what M&K does when he is close to 1 person? He stunlocks them AND himself, leaving himself open to attack just as much as his victim is. He doesn't have a "fuck you all" sustain AOE like Victor and Abrams do, he doesn't have the DPS because his gun damage fucking sucks, he has scorn for sustain and chip AOE damage that are easily denied and more so for escapes than anything because he is such a big and not-scary target when his ultimate is on cooldown.If tanks can't do consistent damage then they are just bullet sponges, and people could just ignore them. M&K has had his damage consistently nerfed, his burrow was fucking halved after they buffed everyone's health bars. People can ignore M&K if Combo is on cooldown, he is not a proper tank, because he isn't supposed to be, and if he is supposed to be then he's poorly designed.
>>538283992>play on my own>~60% winrate>play with friends>10% winrate
>>538281656>A tank has to be able to do damagebruh
>>538284210Obviously. Why do you think Abrams can one-tap squishies with his heavy melee? If a tank can't do damage then they are a harmless meat wall. What makes tanks scary high prio targets is their deadliness up close, a health bar alone doesn't do that.
>>538281656>A tank has to be able to do damage.No, only the free farming tool right click tankniggers in Dota do that because icefrog needs to be skewered alive
>>538284139my friends are total shitters that freak out if you suggest any ways to improve >hey man knockdown would be good against that seven>"dude, youre taking this way too seriously man its just a beta">proceeds to get farmed by their seven over and over and bitches about how op his ult isSome people just refuse to even pretend to be rational in vidya
What's better on Victor - Cultist Sacrifice or Healing Tempo?
There is no thematic reason for Seven to have Dark Willow's point stun
>>538284502>what's better, a 800-1600 item or a 6400 itemnot how it works. but both are great. if i had to pick one because of slot limitation I'd sell cultist later and replace it with tempo
>>538284661aznbros...
>>538284139For the record I don't believe I'm great or anything but I'm going against counter matchups as billy in lane(Like Grey Talon + Vindicta) and still winning and even 1 v 2ing after my lane buddy fucks off and they disrespect the turret. Like why I am being put up against people who obviously have never played a moba in their life. It straight up isn't fun and smurfing is gay
>>538284502cultist is for ramping, you get it when the big creeps spawn so you can level faster
>>538284564He has electric powers
>>538282615That would be fucking stupid and I doubt Valve is this retarded.Literally just disable the r_aspectratio command and whatever. It's that fucking easy. Getting banned for something like this is just so retarded.Btw I didn't post the full thing but it said they got banned due to large amount of reports so in all likelihood this is bullshit.
>>538284956>ballsball lightning, get it, hahah, it's fine>3chain lightning AOE, makes sense>ultelectrocuting himself, appropriate>random delayed targeted AOE stundoesn't really fit
>>538285109Yeah no-one ever got stunned by electricity
>>538284882Lucky you. I'm being put WITH people that have never played a game before.
>>538285392Oh no that happens to me all the time as well, it just happens in cycles.>Win four games, consistently get most souls and amazing kda>Lose the next four games, have the most souls but half my team is 0/10Skill level for shitelo is so drastic it can feel like a rollercoaster at times.
Can someone explain Wraith's 1 to me? Even after pressing 1 again after the first cast it still follows my crosshair. How do I get it to lock in on the enemy?Also what's the lore on the puppet prosthetics? I noticed Shiv has one too. Looks cool
The writing is terrible in this game. Only a third of the cast are interesting as characters. Valve said they got the TeamFortress writer/art team to handle dialogue/art for the game, but I don't see it. Every class in teamfortress was funny and interesting.>Half the characters trauma blog or moralize to each other despite not knowing one another>caring about trauma requires context, and the context to be effective, it itself needs to be interesting >The Trauma itself yapped about isn't interesting>extremely preachy characters that like/hate each other for random reasonsVindicta yapping to Billy about how ineffective he is in political extremism was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Vindicta:>holding a long, pointless grudge>helping an elder god to prey upon humanity so that she can punish a select few humans 400 years later>did not connect with Billy that they are both people who have been wronged (or at least perceive themselves as wronged) by broader society>Vindicta talks using academic phrases straight out of college essays (systematically dismantling, nobody talks like that)>Vindicta has been isolated from America for 300 years at least before the first spirit rift whatever thingyNow multiply that by about half of all hero interactions. I hate millennials.
>>538285870I think you just need to direct it. Think of it like the rocket launcher from Half Life 2. The battle against that ship gave me trouble because I didn't understand that you needed to keep pointing at the target after firing.
>>538282695have you not played dota 2?
>>538282709they were accurate about leaks in the past.
Is Sinclair underrated?
>>538286013Billy's whole point is he's meant to be an annoying shitlib
>>538286013>systematically dismantling, nobody talks like that)they do tho
>>538236598It's super easy to get whoever older character you want now with the new heroes out. Meaning you can put Seven on max priority and almost always get him.
>>538283534that could just mean different draft modes, turbo, or it could mean completely different games, like tf2 maps.
>>538286013I think with the Vindicta conversation, its supposed to point out that unlike Billy, Vindicita has a easy thing to point at for her life (or unlife) being the way it is and how she can rectify it.For billy, its a little bit of eveything. Corpos, Big Gov, Magical regulation... he percieves so much unfairness at such a grand scale that he can't really do much besides lash out at the world in general.
>>538286013>400 year old teenage girl helps an elder god in order to get revenge on a select few who wronged herMost realistic character in Deadlock, desu
>>538261572seven being the training dummy was making people overconfident in their ability to hit headshotsso they swapped the biggest head guy with the smallest head guy
>>538286559No, see, that's how an ~academic~ talks neutrally in an article or essay. It's Vindicta's personal grudge, yet we, the audience, see none of her emotionality or grief, her desire for vengeance. We only get a patronizing tone of Vindicta, to Billy. I don't really care about seeing Billy being constantly put down, he has such a bland, one-note personality that I can't suspend disbelief
>>538281732>Bruiser>TankLolniggers deserve the rope, change my mind
>>538287261>is that... two long words? aaiiee i hate millennials
looking at the paige model and her ass is literally deflated
>>538284139I'm the same way lol my winrate is abysmal with my friends.
>>538287794pretty sure her boobs arent that big
How do I lane against inferniggers ? I get shredded from a distance and it's worse when they're close. Any tips ? Also the lash feels great to play
>0 obj damage hazeimplessive
>>538287794first they remove Vindicta's ass and feet, now Valve is modeling this? heartbreaking
>>538287794it's to prevent clipping issues with the skirt physics
>>538287919They weren't that big until she discovered a love spell to infatuate Victor
In a few seconds, it'll all be over.
>>538285109>cause electric charge separation on enemy>discharge
I only have fun when I'm NOT doing a gun build
>>538286013I think my problem with this game is we've yet to have a character who actually suits the time period. The closest is Seven but everyone treats him like he's insane and dangerous when, outside of being a prisoner, he doesn't come off like that. But 1920's America does not exactly translate to Current Year, it isn't like you could have a jester character who did minstrel shows or somebody who participated in the scramble for Africa. Instead you have characters like Paige, Billy and Drifter who come off as weak and gay,
>>538283420>Newfags are about to learn about Valve Time
>>538288937TF2 was in development for over 9 years, remember that.
>>538288015fixed it
>>538287261>yet we, the audience, see none of her emotionality or grief, her desire for vengeanceIt's kinda like that part of the game hasn't been made yet.
>>538289216May as well make her an anthro fox while you're at it.
>>538288872There were some prolific serial killers in the interwar period
There's literally no counter to Warden
>>538289216jarvis increase thickness by 15%, increase hip width by 8%
>>538288994The final version was made in about 2 years though
>>538289413and fat too
>>538288872Wraith is right there
>>538289414Drifter is still very weak in terms of presentation and motivation, you get what he is conceptually but it's about as interesting as saltines. Just watch Near Dark and see this idea executed properly.
What sort of buffs should Billy get to make him viable?
>>538286013I think Vindicta must just be someone at Valve's pet character because she has particularly bad writing. Most of the characters have a mix of dialogue criticizing them or sucking them off but I can't really think of any lines that fairly criticize Vindicta
>>538290008>furry who doesnt play the game spends hours making off-model art and doesnt realize he is a freak with a goat-head and human body
>>538290092>aiieeee is that fur on his side?!? This means he doesn't respect the true vision of the character!!!
>>538290092doesn't care
>be ascendant 2 for half a year>suddenly lose 3 games>must be my items>lose another 3 games>must be my mindset>lose another 3 games>must be my positioning>lose another 2 games>must be my hero selection>lose another 3 games
Remember when gun Paige did anything?
>>538290341Remember when Victor did anything?
I tried to save this. I really did. But my team was simply outskilled.
Remember when is the lowest form of conversation
>>538290503Yeah, like 1 patch ago.
im arcanist 5 is that good or bad
>>538290609Yeah, same with gun paige.
>>538290540>I ALWAYS GET THE WORSE TEAM!jesus man how fucking humiliating to post this, with the match ID, but with obscured names.you played like shit.
>>538290846>I ALWAYS GET THE WORSE TEAM!Not always.>you played like shit.Yeah, I know. I always do.
>>538290580remember the time abrams moved in with lady geist
>>538288872It's more of an amalgamation of 1900s New York rather than a proper period piece. Justification: the existence of magic.>educated bookworm women didn't exist in 20s muttland>punks didn't exist in 1920s +50 amerigroidistan>immortal murderhobos didn't exist during the Great RecessionLook, just because you don't know that you are retarded doesn't mean that you ain't so.
I fucking love gambling
>>538291120It's just funny mutts are so hateful of their own history that they can't even derive anything from that era. If their culture wasn't weak and gay, this game would have something like a slave warlock who enslaved the souls of those who hanged him and ironically now wants to enslave more peoples' spirits.
>>538284028against my own advice i tried again. they had a vyper on the other team, somehow it was also the only vyper on lower rank that knew how to play. we lost pretty bad but mostly because they let Paige farm and she was killing everyone
>>538291120Anyone bitching about time period in alternate history is obviously an imbecile. Just ignore them.
>>538291670Both of you are clearly confused, you believe historical accuracy and being reminiscent of the era are the same thing. If you're too much of a limp dick to touch upon the themes of an era when making your cartoony supernatural MOBA then why bother? Oh wait, Valve tried that and Concord scared the piss out of them. Lmao
>cart is le hard to land!>it's literally one of the best peeling tools in the game>unmissable at close rangei hate doortards so much
Uh oh the thirdies are hating on America again
>>538288639>giant tits>small nipples ABSURDLY dogshit jeet taste
>>538292026just the people in this general are really, really bad.
>>538285007>That would be fucking stupid and I doubt Valve is this retarded.First time playing a valve game?
Me ungaTeam bunga
>>538291980which heroes don't fit in with the 20th century or supernatural themes?
>>538291536>fed Paige carryI love low rank weekends
abrams is fun bros. I like slamming these glass cannon m1 carrytrannies into walls and punching them.also playing the parry minigame with people is fun.
>>538292782more ultra tanks please valve...
>tell a bebop wtf is he doing he's been afk the whole lane>its his first game in over a yearthank you valve
We need to be more like dotafags and discouraging blog posts like >>538293167
What do you think the vanguard will be? Here is a video that features these new patron voice lines.https://youtu.be/tVsetROdGiw?t=310:31-0.54 and 1:14-1:58. Everything else is some random dude's speculation.
>>538293256>stop talking about the game and its horrible matchmakingso what are we allowed to post?
>>538293352Smut
>>538291120>>immortal murderhobos didn't exist during the Great Recessionthat's just what they want you to think
>>538293352Gay porn of the doorman.
>>538292782This but drifter with crushin fists when you teleport behind them and slap them for 1k+ damage couse you have 80+ stacks
>>538293167bro i got a guy that has 20 hours in this game and knows more than him
my grandfather was one of the people who got to make a wish on the patrons back in the 20s, it's why I'm white.
>>538264705posted it just for a nigger like you to seethemission accomplished
>>538293326this thingyou capture it for your team and it runs down a lane and provides a healing aura until the enemy downs it
>>538293675>The grandfather in question
I like building spellslinger on lash to cap off a build and add some much needed gun damage if I see the enemy team is building spirit res. The reload speed is really nice if you already built express shot.And with superior or transcendent cooldowns, your stomp and whip are 5 and 7 seconds respectively. Add leech or ethereal shift and you can really just stand your ground and brawl. Get both and you can seriously just 1v6.Of course, if you're getting that much farm on lash your team should just auto-win from the space you create or so you'd think but I'm in alchemist and some of these niggers cant even wipe their own ass I swear.
>>538288639I can see them...
Is Yamato generally on the weaker side or am I just dogshit? I struggle with laning phase and i feel like i just get baited into teamfights where i die
>>538292658>BebopSelf-explanatory, needs a rework anyway>BillyCalifornian punk goat and anachronistic to the setting entirely>DynamoToo sci-fi for the setting, has nothing to do with anything science or astrology related circa the early 20th century>Grey TalonCould work but he's very half-baked and race bait besides with the "my coal-burning son is dead" gimmick>HazeThe CIA as we know it didn't fucking exist prior to the 1950's, very anachronistic>HolidayClearly male concept was worked into a "strong female" which is gay 2020's California slop>InfernusRuined by D&D tiefling shit backstory>LashTalks like some dipshit from the modern day internet, also has an identical face to Warden>McGinnisClearly male concept was worked into a "strong female" which is gay 2020's California slop>WraithClearly male concept was worked into a "strong female" which is gay 2020's California slop>YamatoJust doesn't fit in any way whatsoever, someone on the Neon Prime team is a weeaboo and this is an anachronistic holdover>PocketI don't need to explain this one>MinaGenuinely stupid idea, is here to try and get japs and gooks to play, highly anachronistic to the setting
>>538294028When a new account is created they're already alchemist 3. lel
Long range/sharpshooter actually give some of the highest DPS in the game (compared to other items in it's tier). It's very strange how literally only vindicta uses it (and is also part of why that cunt is top tier).
>plays vindicta>plays viper>suddenly gets aroused by voices
>>538294282I buy it on gun paige
is gun dynamo still a thing or did they kill it?
>>538294194Yamato is one of those characters that goes in, while your team stays behind and laughs at you, then start spamming "pull back" the entire match.
>>538294205Good one :]
looks like this loremaster is just a retard poser
Have they patched the invisible wall doorman bullshit yet
>>538294371i NEED vypers voice actor to a pov asmr of being tied to a bed and making hot sex and teasing
>>538294205the 1950s was literally the decade the CIA started to properly tangle their tentacles everywhere, you're retarded.
>>538294205>dynamo is too sci-fi(You)
>bebop hooks me through a wall and into the entire enemy teamwho approved this
>>538294838Your shitty ISP and WiFi connection
>>538294678 (me)to do*
>>538293326i don't like how they made the female patron so wispy sounding
Can I stop getting leavers. I've never left a match but I keep getting paired with these players who rage and leave. Feels like I'm in hell.
>>538294908I'm on wired internet, anon. I practically never lag.
>doorman>isn't half man, half doorruined
>>538290008post some good Billy art instead of that cringe shit.
>dynamo is too sci-fi for the era that split the atom
>>538295162princess no knees would've been better
>>538294502This is exactly kind of whats happening but at the same time im on the newer side and only have about 40 hours so far. I think its a mixture of me just not being good
>>538290062>I think Vindicta must just be someone at Valve's pet character No, that's Paige. And that's why she has the worst fucking lines ever put into paper.>because she has particularly bad writing.I wouldn't say so, she gets on a soapbox all the time but it fits her personality. Would be weird if some puritan from three centuries ago spoke the same as contemporary people.
>I like pre-pre alpha more
>>538294205>Californian>race bait >coal burning>strong female>tiefling shitdon't you people ever get tired?
>Abrams whole lore is that he has a book>nobody else even wants itwow
>added custom sound effects to a mod I likeheehoo, that was fun learning how to do all that shit.I recommend giving it a shot, lets you add your own custom personal flair to the game
>>538295428>worst fucking lines everThat's Billy.
>>538293256>>538293167>me ooga>team booga>>538294282Paradox gun build used to run it. You could maybe get away with it on Mcginnis. It'd the mobility that messes people up. Plus, a lot of guns suck at long range. Then if someone gap closes there goes a chunk of your damage. Could maybe be buffed if anything.
>>538294205>identical face to Wardenlot of faceblind niggas on 4chan
>>538295428so we have two confirmed virgin characters>vindicta>billy
>>538236946they really should buff +dmg items, they are all so trash
>>538296313Billy has sex with Vyper dumbass.
>>538295701Stop producing the problem and people will stop complaining about it
One thing I've been nooticing in my shit skill bracket is whichever team has a Mina loses. I guess she still requires a brainstem to play.
>>538296445Not proof. Billy could be a virgin until after the ritual where he sexes Vyper's beautiful snakepuss, but lore requires that no one has completed the ritual.
would going for a guntank build on abrahams be a good idea? tempted to try it
>>538239029ivy gun is dogshit and has always been
>>538294205>has nothing to do with anything science or astrology related circa the early 20th centuryThat's when General Relativity came about, and Dynamo is a walking black hole. He fits.
>>538241252if ivy not a hero, then why does she have a gun-buffing ability?>b-but it's a support abilitywraith's gun-buffing ability is also a support ability because it buffs all allies in a range not just her
>>538296773Billy and Vyper's conversation implies they've been a piece at some point before the ritual.
which paradox build is the one I should follow?
>get mina and victor on the same team>guaranteed loss
>>538294205>Yamato doesn't fitIf you're only talking about her neon prime model then sure, but having a Yakuza member fits well enough when a large majority of the rest of the cast.
>>538296096>That's Billy.Billy is cringe on purpose.Paige is nails on chalkboard trying to hard to be cute cringe.
>>538297007implication does not equal causation. Ivy is implying theyll fuck AFTER the ritual, the sex will be done after therefore hes still a virgin
>>538297427>ivylol vyper but imagine
>>538297624haha imagine Ivy sex? wow that'd be crazy haha Ivy mating press wow
It makes sense for Vindicta to talk like an annoying progessive girl because those are the same sorts of people who say they are "the daughters of the witches you didn't burn!" and that shit
you know this game would be a lot more fun if every game wasn't 1 or 2 giga autistic faggot who spend 20 hours every day playing this game/hackers vs 10 retards
Who is the most knot coded female hero? I feel like Paige would probably fuck a dog
>>538297982Paige would get fucked by a pack of rabid werewolves
>>538296089TSK banned.
ghost of confederate soldier hero when?
>you'll never get clothed paizuri from a nerdy redhead in a sweater
>>538298110what?
>>538298116never, confederates were woke
>>538298116Abraham Lincoln with throwing axes when
>>538297426And you are retarded on purpose
>>538298593God I hate how many of you disgusting porn addicted freaks have came out of the woodwork with these slop designs. kill yourself.
>>538234221EVERY.FUCKING.HAZE.I GET.IS LIKE THIS.Then this nigger follows you to a lane I'm pushing just to leech the souls and contributes fucking nothing the entire game.
>>538298116When did all the magic stuff start in Deadlock's timeline? Would the Civil War sill go down the same way or would it be more based around Ixia?
>>538298986The haze paradoxEither you get a hacker/smurfer or a brain damage retard
>>538298604READ NIGGA READ>>538280691
>>538298810>Paiges ear splitting voice, terrible focus group tier design and cringe dialog is fine because I jerk off to her!Kys
>>538298986MORE OF THE SAME
>>538298116I dunno if they'll touch the Civil War considering the current political climate But a revolutionary war ghost who hates the British and fights with a ghost musket would be great
>>538299132are you illiterate? do you even read the posts you respond to?i'm changing sounds and hero models, nothing to do with FOV
>>538298986>>538299247MORE.OF.THE SAME.WHAT CAUSES THIS????
>>538299247"forced losses aren't real bro"
>>538299406tick tock soon it'll happen
>>538298803for me, its Abe Lincoln with a flame thrower>>538299005First magic event was roughly somewhere between 1890-1900 but not too many people cared for some reason besides certain national security groups, second magic event was a few years before the game takes place and now everyone is shitting their pants akin to the internet being mainstream where its down everyone's throats. Though now through Drifter its confirmed magical entities have always existed since he's actually a really ancient vampire.
>Combine Mirage's passive and scarabs>Give him a new ability that lets him clear troop waves>Keep his ultYes or no?
>>538299501>>538299247>>538298986AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>538299406cite me one singular player being banned aside from some retard speculating.
>>538299406It's basically cheating imo if you change models to be more vibrant and bigger and easier to spot against the background environment. If for example I change Haze's model into a bright green one and she glows it's going to be super easy for me to spot her. Same goes for beach vindicta and other models that increase how easy it is to spot them. Game designers usually keep colors of models in mind when it comes to the competitive nature of the game.
>>538299170says the guy defending billy
>>538297308bros?
>>538299707forgot pic
>>538299731Awful, mirage does nothing if you can't manually trigger marks
>laning against viscous and lash>obvious 2 man stack>instantly get express shot, goo'd and lash slammed + whip>down to 30% hp even with spiritual resist armor in 1 secondfun balance
What pisses me off about Shiv is that he's supposed to be this very tanky and strong hero during teamfights. But, he's not any weaker during 1v1s. So what exactly is his weakness in those departments? The fact that he's got item counters? Every hero has item counters. Why does he get the benefit of both doing a ton of damage and surviving a lot, in fair fights or not? Characters even get voice lines that go, "I need help killing Shiv!", implying exactly that Shiv is supposed to be tank/disruptor that needs to be focused down. But what exactly is his disadvantage, then? Is it the focus itself? Anyone can be focused during a fight. Is it because his dash gets its cooldown cut during if he uses it on multiple people? With one level it still has a much shorter cooldown than other heroes' abilities that deal even less damage. Someone help me understand if I'm missing something?
>>538299170I said Billy is worse, not Paige is fine. Projecting much?
>>538300221Catduck...
>>538300124too bad mirage looks like shit (and sounds like shit) ingame
>>538300010nobody, not even furries, is attracted to billy.kys, goonertard.
>Build plated + juggernaut + bullet res against Infernus>He still melts me in 3s with just afterburn alonewhat the shit is this garbage
>lobby clock dings every hourwow
>>538300619I guess we have a winner for the worst written hero now. kys, woketard
>>538300684>build bullet resistance>wtf why is spirit damage shredding me????
>>538300221His health deterrant is time constrained, so in a bursty team fight it works wonders and in a 1v1 situation that lasts longer it's not a big deal.
>>538300893why does he get to do burst level spirit damage while building gun and green?
>>538300221he monke
>>538300824I accept your concession, pedo gooner tranny.
>>538301004I dunno, don't ask me that.
>>538301004who knows. at least he doesnt have 4.6k+ health anymore
>>538301004because Valve thought it would be a fantastic idea to give people 40 fucking spirit for just existing late game.every balance change (including the shop rework) post shop rework has been fucking terrible.just revert the entire item shop and level scaling.
First time playing Lady Geist, how did I do?
>>538301119They are on your side though, wokefurryfag. Enjoy billy's voice line cocksucking lash every time you kill him.
>using portals to cheese urn, get my entire team out of fights, defend 2 lanes at once, steal enemy jungle safely>win game>0 kills, 1 death, 17 assists, top soul count"I'll influence the battlefield with a subtle hand"
>>538301770uh oh, pedo tranny melty!
>>538301868says the guy spending 24 hours per day hating human women on /dlg/
>>538300221Me. I'm the weakness. Shiv is a very strong hero unless I play as him.
>>5383014900 impact on the outcome of the match.
>>538301424Spirit as a whole right now could take a hit. I rarely see anyone build gun now.
>>538302092No, tranny. I just hate Paige and her faggot tranny defenders like yourself.Mina is cool, Geist is cool, Wraith is cool, Haze is top 3 designs in this entire game.there is nothing to like about Paige UNLESS you're a tranny and want to self insert or you jerk off to her, which you are. given you're sitting here like the fat porn addicted freak you are defending your waifu.now, hang yourself and bump that 41% up a little higher.
>>538301280Infernus really should be more fragile. He is "the fast guy".
>>538302385spirit isn't the problem, because there's lots of spirit builds that are worthless.the problem is the burst heroes. burst and the original m1 carries are all that's relevant at the moment. and things that enable them with lockdown, like mo&krill.play a spirit geist or mcginnis, and you feel worthless.
>>538302385gun is exclusively good if you have 5 spirit characters on your team and you're the singular gun carry so they won't build resists against you.otherwise, you're dead weight if you aren't 5-10k+ ahead.
>>538302369>Second most objective damage>No impact
>>538302543>spirit isn't the problem>the problem is the burst heroesSO THE FUCKING SPIRIT CHARACTERS?God, you're a retard.Yes, spirit is a problem.Seven isn't burst and he's been perma top 1 for God knows how long.how do you contradict yourself in the same post???
>>538302668you didn't even deal enough damage to kill a walker. but sure keep coping.
>>538302445>say billy is bad>"y-you are defending paige"ok fag
>>538302527I remember back when would just take all the lifesteal in the game and not all the world's antiheal, which was stronger back then, could defeat him. And retards still defended it.
>>538302891>paigetranny is actually illiteratePaigetroons really are the bottom of the barrel scum of the player base now.
>>538302802you fucking retard I just explained it.SPIRIT isn't the problem, because lots of SPIRIT builds suck ass.if SPIRIT was the problem, there would not be a bad SPIRIT build.now bake the next bread before you an hero.
>>538302917there was a retard in this very general saying the game was in a better state back then btw
pick up that urn>>538303140>>538303140
>>538303006actually, clinically retarded. there is no hope for you.
>>538303134What makes me seethe is how many people defended such obvious design mistakes and broken heroes. And Yoshi proceeded to fix all of the problems I had, I was right. Shiv was gutted, all debuffs were nerfed, healing was nerfed, rescue beam was giganerfed, all things that eventually made the game better and I got endlessly shit on for proposing them
>>538298116Give us both a Union and Confederate hero. Would be hilarious and kino.
>>538235697This is 100% a ChimpStrike player speaking in these posts. Look at how confused these "people" get when they need to apply abstract thought to a game.Anything beyond "who can shoot the gun the best" is beyond their comprehension.
>>538299406Ignore that retard. He didn't read the full tweet. Those guys got banned due to mass reports.If Valve wanted to disallow mods/changing cvars they can just DISABLE THE COMMANDS so you
