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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8623 - Grand Theft Auto Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA

>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiYfo0Wy2NA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 7 | Dr. Eggman, Zavok, & Zazz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX7MOcp_ZX4

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
>CrossWorlds dialogue datamines:
https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c (EN)
https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp (JP)
>/sthg/ #10000 Project Thread
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

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every fanfic here is canon
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Shadria 4ever
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>Knuckles would literally die for the Master Emerald
>he won't put it back on the Hidden Palace Altar where it is much harder to find and get to
>no, having it exposed to the elements 24/7 is the better choice, even when he isn't there
It must be really hard being a Knuckles fan when you have to admit that Neo Metal in IDW did a better job of guarding the Master Emerald, him having to defend it from basically every major character aligned with Sonic, including Burning Blaze, all at the same time, Metal nearly won too, it was down to the wire.

You know if Rouge made a bet that she could do a better job and Knuckles took her up on that, she'd only fail in a situation where Knuckles would also fail, but the writing would make it seem like she's strictly worse than him at guarding it, even though she's no less powerful and has super hearing on top of that.
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smugu
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>>538496034
engaged in movie 2
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>>538496237
your ship wont be canon you delusional sonuva
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Real!
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bros does sonic have the n-word pass?
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Sonic needs his own Akatsuki/Organization 13 as villains for a game.
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>>538496237
I'm glad nowadays sonic team is giving so many alternate outfits to sonic characters, at the time that was pretty rare, I think only the adventure games and sonic lost world did it.
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>>538496496
what the hell does sonic team have to do with those outfits
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>>538496539
They approve them for one thing
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>bestie
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Shadria is awesome. Shadria is FOREVER!
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>>538496496
I think costumes are coming for crossworlds BUT i would hate if that shit comes with MTX
Sega would be utterly stupid to kill the good will
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Why people dont appreciate Shadaze?
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>>538496828
They don't interact often, it's a rarepair
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>>538496828
because they barely met and that you have to make shadow ultra ooc and blaze ooc too
shadouge is already pushing in it
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>>538496539
Sonic team approve anything sonic related anon.
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>>538496828
Because they literally haven't had an interaction until CrossWorlds, they aren't bad ones, they even seem to have mutual respect for each other based just on what one has heard about the other, but it's four sentences, two from him and two from her, in a kart racing spinoff.
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Douge
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>>538496828
Because Shadolin is better
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>>538497102
>but it's four sentences,
Silverfags needed one to start an entire movement
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You can tell Lunar is male because Shadow never interacts with female idw ocs
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>>538497460
Extremely gay behavior
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>>538497259
Fuck off fag
Shadow being dominated is OOC
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Lanolin's big naturals
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>>538497259
ic would be frustrated if the sheep did that
ic silver would also send that sheep to lly
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>>538496237
Silver, Blaze, and their child.
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>>538497517
All shipping with shadow is occ
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Pointing out that shipping fanart is ooc is like pointing out that Sonic games have plot holes
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The curves
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>>538497747
Silver got pregnant?!
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>>538497259
No one fucking likes lanolin besides gooners
Her personality is so shit, people even forget that shes physically hot.
Shadow would slap her the moment he saw all the shit she did.
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>>538497828
>Shadow would slap her
Fighting ooc with ooc
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>>538497816
If the sonic team cast was real people, you can be sure rouge and sonic would be fucking like rabbits, by the fact rouge is the hottest character in the franchise, while sonic is the most fit and confident guy on earth.
Then they will try to marry just to be divorced in less than a year.
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I've had it up to here with Sonougefags. There is nothing worse than when a crackship is popular on twitter
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>>538497880
>shadow slapping bitches
>ooc
Tails and Chris thorndyke exist.
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I cant find any Silvamy image
It was easy with Sonouge, little harder with Shadaze buy Silvamy is non-existent
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>>538498031
Maybe don't go on xitter
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>>538498069
>Sonic X
Even so
They were in the way. How often do you see Shadow striking people for the sake of retribution?
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>>538498031
Popular? I don't see anything about it
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>>538497823
I think he just sat on the egg.
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>>538498069
Those two were actively trying to stop him and Chris was trying to argue against what he perceived as his life mission. Shadow isn't a fucking thug who chimps out at annoying people like a flash cartoon
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>>538498074
i think this is the best one
the others got lost and deleted
this is some BTTF shit
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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No one noticed that Amy turned into Sally
Instead, you focused on that sheep when she has nothing in common with the princess
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>>538498031
everyone see them as sexfriends
Is not the first time they flirt
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>>538498031
Have you tried not caring about it?
Like, if you can stop playing a game when you realize it's not fun, can't you not humour posts you don't want to see more of?
Because bringing up your hatred of shipping gives shipping more attention.
>but if I don't people will keep talking about it
And there's nothing you can do about it but not fuel the fire, if you don't want to talk about it, just don't, worst case scenario you can stop and go for a walk, do the dishes, make a sandwich, etc.
Anyway Sonouge feels like crack to me and I need my fix.
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>>538498473
If she turned into Sally she would have tastes ten different make characters by now. Instead she is sexless.
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>>538498121
Nta but He tries to kick sonic's ass all the time for that reason.
The metal virus, and letting eggman live comes to my mind.
>>538498303
>Shadow isn't a fucking thug who chimps out at annoying people like a flash cartoon
I see you haven't seen sonic boom, sonic prime, and shadow as a character from 2014 to 2017.
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>>538498360
>>538498473
nu Amy is nothing like Sally. meta era Sonic is nothing like Archie Sonic neither, sega took away your waifu because they are done with amyfags
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>>538498303
>Shadow isn't a fucking thug who chimps out at annoying people like a flash cartoon
Is this poster for real? We have been fighting for literally years about this topic, it became a meme at some point.
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>>538498559
>sonic boom, sonic prime
Congratulations. You win. I can't believe I fell for this discussion
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vegetadow is here to stay sadly
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>>538498651
there was no Shadow in sonic bombs. that guy was a larper
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>>538498559
Can I get a videogame canon instance of Shadow trying to hurt someone who wasn't an active opponent after sa2
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>>538498473
Nu Amy has the same personality function as Lanolin but no one is ready for that conversation. She’s just the buzzkill that chastises characters for being immature and reckless and not having good sportsmanship
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>>538498303
>Shadow isn't a fucking thug who chimps out at annoying people like a flash cartoon
I seriously don't know how to react.
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>>538498786
I'm sorry that you think a bunch of western spinoffs are canon.
If a character trait only exists outside of the games then it's bullshit.
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>>538498651
>>538498751
I miss the vegetadow memes.
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>>538497203
Cute N Canon
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The Ark trio!
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>>538498786
Portraying Shadow as easily triggered is literally "Shadow hates Tails" tier bullshit. Not from the games. Only IDWtards believe this shit.
It doesn't matter how annoying Lanolin is. No game has ever had Shadow strike a civilian or any non-combatant.
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>>538498121
>>538498881
Is funny how at that point shadow got flanderized as a vegeta type rageful guy, when the actual vegeta became a family man.
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>>538498031
They got very arrogant over very little. A little line in the englishs script sent them on a rampage here. The most annoying part was them going after ships like shadouge and pretending it was now irrelevant
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>>538499070
To be fair, with Ian writing, Shadouge is fucked unless he's allowed to write ARchiedow.
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>>538499005
No one is even mentioning idw, as a fact, this conversation started about one of idw oc's needing a beating. Because 90% of posters here thinks idw fucking sucks.
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>>538499131
No, shadouge has done very well under him and he always seems to want to emphasize their connection. I wouldn't be surprised if he was secretly a shadougebro.
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back when idw was cool and awesome and non canon
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>>538498565
You have RND (retarded nigger disorder). Jew-amy is literally exactly sally and thats why its poopshitassbutt. 2000s amy was funny and charming and jews ruined her to demoralize whites.
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>>538499005
You can kick people's ass on shadow the hedgehog, even after you saved them, like the ark flashback level
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>>538497984
If Sonic and Rouge were real people, neither of them would entertain the notion of marriage, at most Rouge would let Sonic knock her up after a couple years of fucking each other, assuming that hadn't already happened by accident.
No idea how they'd handle a kid, Sonic would probably be supportive for the 9 months, but I can also see them putting the kid up for adoption.
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>>538499209
>Boom
>Prime
Retarded sources
>Sonic X
The examples chosen are a character he is in opposition with. Shadow does things for a reason.
Chris is by far the most extreme case of Shadow hurting anyone and it's because the guy is trying to stop Shadow's mission.
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>>538499242
IDW would be cool and awesome if the comic was actually about the video game characters without all the OC shit
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>>538498505
Add that image to the collage
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>>538499242
>cool silver
>heroic tails
>funny tangle
>in-character amy
>cool whisper
>smug rouge
>the chaotix
Everyone is in-character here
Impossible
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>>538499337
Is this really your argument that it's in-character for Shadow to attack someone because he heard they caused drama.
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>>538498303
>Shadow isn't a fucking thug who chimps out at annoying people like a flash cartoon
Everyone was doing it, I just wanted to be popular, I don't actually care.
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I miss Boomnic so much.
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I remember people like randomfox exist because dumbasses like yourselves can't split the games from the spinoffs when it comes to characters. I bet you think Amy'd shove Sonic into a mind control lake.
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We're gonna ignore shadow being an ass for almost a decade now?
Heck he kicked infinite ass for being weak, thats it.
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>>538494031
>>538494164
>>538494704
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I miss early days Tangle and Whisper. When they were their own characters and didn't rely on lesbian shit to stay relevant while destroying everything that made them unique.
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>>538499630
>Heck he kicked infinite ass for being weak, thats it.
He kicked Infinite's ass because Infinite attacked him. Stop buying into fandom memes.
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>>538499243
>you have RND
>projects RND
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>>538499630
He killed Infinite's team because they worked for Hitler 2 (Eggman)
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>>538499630
Shadow kicked Infinite because he was a bad guy making trouble and then he called him weak
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>>538499541
Sonic boom as a show had bad animation, but boy, as a sonic fan the jokes landed in a perfect way.
Everyone was hilarious, I remember sonic being afraid of learning to swimm with children, because children smell weakness, while knuckles advices sonic to beat the biggest child as if sonic was in prison.
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>>538499630
Shadow is one of the few characters who had no personality changes of any kind in the 2010s
The idea that he did came from people conflating the comics, cartoons, and other spinoffs like Rise of Lyric as if they were mainline games. The only mainline games Shadow appeared in during that decade are Sonic Generations and Sonic Forces.
>Attacks Sonic because he thinks he's an imposter
>Attacks infinite who attacked him first
None of this is on the level of "I need him to attack some shitty OC to humiliate that OC"
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>>538499687
Yes you are projecting major RND right now
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>>538499728
>Shadow calls Infinite's dick small so he becomes evil
Is Forces a PSA against bullying?
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>>538499773
not funny. didn't kek
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>>538499630
Infinite was literally working for Eggman you dumb fuck. I'm so tired of nonfans.
This is why we say ignore all the shit that isn't from the games. That includes retarded twitter memes.
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>>538499630
Shadow was mostly flanderized until shadow generations came along, but people here will try to say to you he was always a character with depth.
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>>538497984
You guys got real cocky over one tease seemingly elevated your crackship, huh? Sonic and Rouge don't like each other, sonic has insulted rouge, to her face, on more than one occasion and thinks she's untrustworthy.
>if the sonic cast were real people
If they were real people she'd probably be married to shadow or hopelessly in love with him. She's his new Maria, the games tell you as much.
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>>538499814
No Sonic characters have genitals, not even Eggman
It's nothing down there
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>>538499890
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>>538499910
>Shadow was mostly flanderized until shadow generations came along, but people here will try to say to you he was always a character with depth.
Name a MAINLINE GAME where this was true. Flanderized my ass.
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>>538499630
People defending shadow while ignoring the past decade, is hilarious.
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>>538499773
>>538499954
bro you just posted cringe
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>>538497828
I like Lanolin for her character but I also don't like the ship, they have no reason to have chemistry other than liking coffee.
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>>538497259
>Shadolin
Silvolin?
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Shadow was the original oc donut steel, and this place is so full of newfags, everyone forgot that fact.
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>>538500014
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>>538497259
>haha they like coffee
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Yikes
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>>538499954
clown school is this way. but they probably only take funny people
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>>538500052
>quaver could have made top tier NSFW art with these two
>instead she prefers to use the wolf avatar from forces.
Fucking whyyyy.
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I think more shipperfags would be better off if they were so committed to characterization that they just exploited the reasons why a ship would be OOC.
Take Amy for instance. The starting point of most of her ships is her giving up on Sonic because of some unseen reason. Why not focus on her inclination towards Sonic and weaponize that in favor of the ship? Or make that part of the humor? Why introduce a character trait that simply wasn't there? Amy isn't Sally Acorn, it takes a lot to break her persistence even in newer media.
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>>538499890
This dude is funnier than all of idw by himself
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>>538500152
Lanolin unironically has more in common with Silver than Shadow.
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>>538500052
silver isn't worthy of lanolin
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>>538500194
This is actually a terrible idea because it would backfire and make the ship catch on even if it's a deconstruction of the pairing. Windfaggots should never, ever make shipping content for this reason.
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People here are in denial, but i'm just glad shadow became an actual character again.
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>>538500285
Shadolin just became a thing for literally one guy posting here, just because both like cofee. That's it.
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>>538500294
Wrong.
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The specific clip of Sonic saying he's an expert with curves that went viral has him sitting in Amy's car.
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>>538500193
Quaver self inserts as the males in all of "her" ships. That's why he portrayed Manic as stronger than Amy when he is strictly not.
Amyfags blew up at him over trying to make that a pairing on the basis of Amy needing to be saved from rapists by the weakest fucking hedgehog in the entire franchise. It's like Chichi needing to be saved by Jimmy Olsen.
Such faggotry didn't last. It's hard to get a ship off the ground when the fans of one of the two characters can't stand it.
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>>538500294
Lanolin is not worth to be in this franchise as a whole.
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archie was weird and the authors didn't hide their fetishes
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>>538500485
what is wrong with this?
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>>538500305
This post feels like it's making a reference I don't understand
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>>538500451
Hot take but Twitter tards loosing their shit, about the tikal drawing was the stupidest thing ever, while quaver yielded to those retards was realy pathetic.
I would have told everyone to fuck off, to draw what I like.
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>>538500485
Archie has nothing on AoStH
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>>538500485
Are you by chance a footag? I don't see anything Stange there.
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>>538500657
My opinion is that the twitterfags were wrong but he's even more wrong for bending the knee even though he would still turn around and draw porn of Amy (Younger than Tikal)
Just ignore the twitter puriteens.
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>>538499653
This is what your average IDWbabs find funny
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Is it... not common knowledge that Tails personality in Archie and the manga are oddly similiar? Both of them portray him as super cocky instead of having him be childish or nerdy in any way. What's up with that? Was that part of his original character pitch?
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>>538501026
Oh no HE'S BACK
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>>538501026
IDW is designed for the twitter and tumblr crowd so the humor is focused on being quirky and wholesome. The IDW made fan content reflects that.
>>538501102
Leave ESLkun alone.
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>>538500432
>it blinded me to mimic
No!
At best it blinded her to Duo, but her blaming herself for trusting completely different person than Mimic is also retarded
X-Men reference here, so you can stop reading that, but imagine if the whole blame for Magneto's attack on Manhattan was focused on Xorn's Brotherhood when even Xavier trusted Xorn/Magneto
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>>538499653
>>538501026
People like to bully whisper as a character, when tangle retarded ass is ten times worse, at least whisper was supposed to be a soldier, tangle was just a fangirl tagging along just because.
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>>538501042
You are going to destroy the autistic narrative that the characters have been consistent for thirty plus years anon.
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Chroniclefag wake up and post the clip again. Yesterday morning was hilarious.
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>>538501026
Fuck man, do you even sleep? You're always here no matter the time.
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>>538501042
Archie Tails and Manga Tails aren't alike, at all.
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>>538501287
Esltard is literally here all day. He baitposts from time to time and the only consistent thing about him is that he can't write. It's going to be a funny day that he and randomfox are in the same thread.
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>>538500194
I just think some people can't agree on what which words mean which things.
A crackship to me is one that cannot happen, a ship like, I dunno, Something Wicked X Strawberry Shortcake, the kind of ship that's so absurd it stuns you for a bit and makes you wonder how people can come up with this kinda shit.
A rarepair is something that can happen within the continuity, it's just not the most likely one in that continuity.

By my definition of a crackship, any and all ships involving Sonic characters are crackships, because romance is illegal by corporate mandate of Sega, which has the unintended side effect of making all ships equally invalid, Sonamy is legally no more possible than Vectilver. Sega saying no ship is okay has given everyone the go-ahead to ship as much as they want because we all know none of it will amount to anything in the long-term.
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CrossWorlds dialogue datamines:
https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c (EN)
https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp (JP)
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>>538501324
I men the early 90s manga and early 90s Archie. Both completely lack the concept that Tails is insecure. Tails is more confident to contrast Nicki. Archie Tails completely ignores his Satam characterization.
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>>538501193
>uuuuuuu tangle you're supposed to be the retarded one not me uuuuuuuu
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>>538501436
IT IS IN THE OP
KILL YOURSELF
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>>538501042
I like archie tails but no one at archie had the video game personality, archie was its own thing like fleetway, bit for some reason, people wanted a copy/paste from the game.
Curiously, fleetway never had that problem at all, even if sonic was the biggest asshole ever created.
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>>538501193
Tangle hasn't had her fangirl personality since the beginning of the Metal Virus arc. Ever since then, she's just been following Whisper around with shreds of her old personality. But mainly she's just become the group therapist who's "totally not lesbians" with Whisper.

I actually liked her fangirl vibe.
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>>538501193
Because Whisper was introduced as some badass mercenary and ended up being some infantile jobber instead.
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>>538501193
>>538501489
I never said whisper was cool, I said tangle was as pathetic as her.
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>>538501403
I think then the definition is context sensitive. We all know no ship will ever happen in the Sonic franchise. A ship being "Canon" means, at most, at MOST Sega acknowledging that ONE of the two characters finds the other attractive. That is it. It can never go further than that. So Sonamy is "canon" and not considered a crackship.
I'm really just speaking based on how fans use it.
Something like Shadamy is a crackship because it's severely unlikely for Amy to fall in love with anyone other than Sonic.
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>>538501403
>muh legal standpoint
Some ships are more ic than others, sperg. Just because sega has a mandate on romance doesn't mean BigXEggman is just as "plausible" as Vectilla. There is clear ship teasing in the franchise which undermines your point, not about romances being official, but about ships being "invalid"
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>>538501614
Tumblr users don't know how to write people who are badass yet still deal with trauma. Honestly it's a very tough balancing act to show the appropriate amount of vulnerability and competency. Whisper could work with a better writer.
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>>538501537
>I actually liked her fangirl vibe.
Same here. I thing she could've been a decent audience insert or have the role as the newbie/outsider among the cast. She could've been something like Yuta from the manga; a character that gets wrapped into the adventures.
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>>538501537
>The girl with adhd with addiction to sugar
>The group therapist
She was just there doing nothing.
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>>538501717
>>538501403
>Some ships are more ic than others

Actually, let's discuss this. Because if you take multimedia into account, many official ships (Sonally) are out of character for obvious reasons, but aren't crackshis because they did happen in official content.
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>>538501617
>I said tangle was as pathetic as her.
>"when tangle retarded ass is ten times worse"
Wow you must be tangle because that's not what you said
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>>538501827
I guess it's a Whisperfag trying to deflect to Tangle.
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This is a crackship. Correct?
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>>538501896
I guess in the grand scheme, but for archie it would just be a rarepair.
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HEIL
STARMER
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>>538501948
>Nintendo dev kits
SEGA straight up had a gun at their head
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>>538501948
Sonic Chronicles is still valuable to Sega despite the lawsuit.
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Why the diamond cutters failed so hard as characters? No one and I said NO ONE became cool characters, in fact they created the contrary effect.
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>>538466386
>256x256
pretty ordinary for a CD based game in 2001 desu
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>>538499635
>>538501679
Tangle and Whisper under Ian: Whisper is a sniper, hangs out on tall buildings, trees and bushes to back up other characters. Tangle is a free fun spirit driven by adventure. They both fight badniks and interact with other characters

Tangle and Whisper under Evan: Whisper mostly uses the hammer, gets in peoples faces, cries a lot, is generally retarded, can’t do anything by herself. Tangle does nothing but hug whisper and coddle her. Does nothing but interact with other ocs plus silver
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>>538501769
>I thing she could've been a decent audience insert or have the role as the newbie/outsider among the cast.
Characters like that are completely useless. no one needs an audience insert. We are already the audience, bearing witness to thee characters doing cool shit. No one wants to waste screen time looking at a dude saying how cool it is. We should already know.
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>>538501948
What is with Sonic Chronicles and fucking over Sega
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>>538502056
Because Evan is obsessed with drama rather than making storylines suitable for a boys franchise
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>>538502054
How? Why?
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>>538502056
They're little girls. That's why.
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>>538501827
>>538501881
A minute of difference
Same fag
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>>538502056
I have no idea why they became a Sonic Heroes team in the first place. It was already enough pushing Tangle and Whisper together, but did we really need Lanolin forced in? Not to mention they had no chemistry as a unit and were in fact detrimental to each other's characters. Them breaking up was a mercy kill.
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>>538501660
>A ship being "Canon" means, at most, at MOST Sega acknowledging that ONE of the two characters finds the other attractive. That is it. It can never go further than that. So Sonamy is "canon" and not considered a crackship.
I think that definition could use further specification, because if we use that one, Amy is a slut with no standards, she just prefers Sonic, who is also a slut but doesn't have anyone in mind.
If two characters mutually think the other is hot and they like each other as people, then it's a "canon"? Idk, that's not addressing FWB or Vocels.
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>Sega abuses the british police system to steal copies of Sonic Chronicles
>Get caught
>Publicly humiliated
That game is fucking cursed
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>>538502056
People are fighting about whose worse, when all of them are shit.
You don't compare shit, with shittier shit.
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The fall off of Tangle and Whisper as well as how the diamond cutters are handled can be directly attributed to when Evan took over the comic
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>>538501403
>A rarepair is something that can happen within the continuity, it's just not the most likely one in that continuity.
A rarepair is a ship that has a a small to nonexistent following. It has nothing to do with in-universe plausibility, it's just there's usually a positive correlation between narrative and character pairings.

A crackship is traditionally shit like CrashXShadow though, but contextually refers to ships that have little to no chance of happening (in-universe).
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>>538501948
A travesty but a dear reminder on how fucking retarded hoarders are in this age.
>Captcha:MNPWR
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>>538502078
Let me guess... you think Windnic is boring?
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>>538502226
None of the Sonic characters have sexual desires currently. No one sees anyone as hot.
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>>538502170
It was the first Sonic RPG in the franchise, dude. It also expanded on Knuckles story along with the Gizoids. It was setting up a whole thing. Sonic Chronicles was one of the games with the biggest potential in the franchise.
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>>538502308
Yep.
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>yakuza company is corrupted
Wow
What a shocker
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>>538502175
Yeah uh huh look at me samefag you fucking retard. Real diamond cutter material you are. Woof for me you fat gay dog lover
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>>538502226
I concur. For example, in Pokemon Ash and Serena is considered "Canon" because the two have kissed canonically. In a fandom for an adult series (Like the anime Kingdom) two characters kissing is not a confirmation that they are in a relationship. It just happens to be as far as this can possibly go for Pokemon.
For Sonic, the furthest it has gone is... also... kissing. But we have to adjust it for what's realistic today. So open romance (Like Amy to Sonic) is some of the msot we get.

Your definition works, the only problem is that there are literally no instances of two Sonic characters being openly in love in a mainline Sonic videogame. So the standards are ridiculously low in the fandom. Notice how the ""Trifecta" are less comparable to canon couples in other media and more around the general range of ships in Yugioh.
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>>538501802
I think you are discussion what is in-character, you'd only consider one continuity's version of that character. I could see Archie Sonic and Fleetway Sonic re-enacting the car argument scene from Deadpool 3 for example, I wouldn't treat them both as the exact same Sonic, they're two different characters.
>>538501896
>>538501942
It *did* happen in Archie.
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>>538502392
Anything that focuses on Knuckles is doomed to go nowhere. Sonic Tea, does not like that character.
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>>538502056
Lanolin being a psycho with a hateboner for sonic as the abt fanfic could have been interesting, but idw is afraid of success, and thay can't make a female character "look bad"
Tangle and whisper are beyond saving, being close or apart.
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>>538502404
The Yakuza want Shade back. Their priorities are pretty based.
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>>538502472
>I think you are discussion what is in-character, you'd only consider one continuity's version of that character. I could see Archie Sonic and Fleetway Sonic re-enacting the car argument scene from Deadpool 3 for example, I wouldn't treat them both as the exact same Sonic, they're two different characters.
That's a good fucking analogy
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>>538501785
In the early days of the comic, she DID do something. She was holding her own and carrying herself without any outside assistance. She was a girl who loved going out and seeing the world, but didn't have a lot of chances to do so. She's a fan of Sonic, but not a deathly fan.

Ever since she got paired up with Whisper, that entire aspect of her character has vanished entirely. Now all she does is comfort people, comfort Whisper, and act as her cry pillow while the panel is drawn in a way that people can screencap and say "AAAAA I LOVE MY LESBIANS".
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>>538502493
Most people here don't like either with how often I see people wanting to vault him or kill him off.
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>>538502409
I don't get this shitpost, people are pretty clear about tangle and whisper sucking balls as a whole but people try to deflect on just one character.
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>>538502506
Whisper and Tangle are not beyond saving, they just have to go back to doing whatever they had in the first half of the comic and have Evan fuck off with her virtue signaling and dramafaggotry
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>Someone's making a Chronicles fangame
>Gametheory fucks up their entire Sonic timeline just to make Chronicles canon
>Chronicles part of a haul of games illegally retrieved from a preservation effort
It's a funny year to be interested in irrelevant spinoffs
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>>538502217
>Not to mention they had no chemistry as a unit and were in fact detrimental to each other's characters.
That's more Evan's fault for not even letting them attempt to accomplish anything on their own without the game characters' help. They failed miserably before they even had a chance to get off the ground, and it's her own fault for not even trying to do anything interesting with them.

It's to the point where it feels like this line from Tangle is a subtle jab towards Evan from Ian over her terrible writing choices.
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oh
ok
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>>538502056
All of them invading the comic that is called sonic the hedgehog to being the main characters, didn't help either.
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>>538496320
Kek
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When Iizuka said he wanted to make a Sonic RPG before he reties he meant getting back Sonic Chronicles by any means necessary even if it has to be literally stolen.
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>>538502659
>illegally retrieved
that dude did nothing wrong. sega lost their shit fair and square
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>>538501948
>british police
Judging from the latest evolution in bong politics, is there a bigger cucked country than the UK?

Imagine raiding someone's house not for suspect of terrorism, not for kidnapping someone or doing god knows what kind of satanic rituals, but for fucking videogame piracy.
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>>538502704
written by ian so it's a fanfic
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>>538502682
Kids today couldn't handle 2000s shipwars.
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>>538502659
>>538502718
90% of films that were preserved from the early days were "illegally retrieved" by private collectors.

sometimes you have to distinguish between "legal" and "right"
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>Fuck around and find out: The Game
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>>538501498
that one was a bit late. we got a copycat poster..
>>538502682
lol
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>>538502537
I should mention that it should be apparent which Sonic would take the role of which character and I should also link the argument itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EysICeTUPvs
I also like the meta similarity that they're all from discontinued series, but even I can tell I'm looking too deep into this.
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Once again the Whisper doc is proved right again. Every single thing you tards talk about in here is addressed by this damn doc and it’s criminal a fucking idwfag wrote it up and left it to die on tumblr. Ian and Evan need to read this because it lists out every god damn flaw with how Tangle, Whisper, the diamond cutters and even Silver were handled and everything that got lost with them over time and how ooc they have become as well as the lacking chemistry. Motherfucking everything is in this
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9gzfi3qlinmhjhwsdu4pq/Analyzing-Whisper-The-Wolf-and-eventual-Diamond-Cutters.paper?rlkey=03xvl0pt0imc4n5lvraitojen&st=pfxufx5x&dl=0
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>>538502832
Yeah you load it up and it fucking sucks.
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>>538502826
>>538502718
You are both right. I will change my views accordingly.
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>>538502392
It was also going to be the series first where there was some sort of civilian uprising against a hostile takeover in the games, but the sequels got canned.
Forces made it into reality though.
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>>538502892
tldr?
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It says a lot when this retard gives Tangle more personality and character than Evan, and all he mostly does is ship her with his OC
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>>538502826
>"Two days after my arrest, the police sent me a formal disclaimer request — effectively asking me to relinquish ownership of the consoles," he says (the paperwork he was given states that the dev consoles are currently in police custody). "That struck me as extraordinary," he continues.

"If the police truly believed the items were stolen, then legal title would have remained with SEGA from the start, and there would be nothing for me to disclaim. By asking me to disclaim, they implicitly acknowledged that I did hold legal title. I refused, in writing, and asked to be kept informed of any forfeiture proceedings so I could secure representation. I have received nothing further."

tl;dr:
>dude did nothing wrong
>sega lost their shit fair and square
>uk police are corpo drones
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>>538502659
Everyone knows the Sonic lore got fucked sideways the moment we lost that game and Knuckles has been a nothingburger ever since because his entire background became illegal..
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>>538502756
Vietnam closed a bunch (in millions) of bank accounts so it's civilians can apply for the biometric credit system.
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>>538502902
You load it up and the music instantly attacks your ears
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>>538502056
>Tangle became an adhd, sugary addiction retard who didn't knew her actions had consequences.
>whisper became a weeping baby with ptsd, when she was supposed to be a hight tier war veteran
>both became even worse the moment their were paired together.
>lanolin became a hardass bitch, at the point she fought her own team, people hide information from her, and made a mistake so bad, the team disbanded.
I don't know, you tell me.
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Reminder Flynn said that he does not care about what SEGA wants for Sonic.
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>>538502987
why do we hate him again?
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>>538502424
>For Sonic, the furthest it has gone is... also... kissing.


And who was it again that kissed Sonic?
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>>538503037
he fucks tangle when she is clearly mine
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>>538502987
Cute ace couple
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>>538503009
There is another universe where Knuckles was fucking somebody sideways. The universe couldn't allow that and demanded Sonic lore be fucked instead.
If I remember right, Ian Flynn said that Sonic Chronicles is set years after the mainline games.
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>>538503035
>what SEGA wants for Sonic.
honestly me neither.
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>>538502959
An idwfag dropped this doc on tumblr because they hate how everything about whisper, tangle and the diamond cutters ended up and by far has the most awareness i’ve seen of any idwfag. It goes through every issue and shows the decay of the characters and it even has a section on how to improve them after 79 which has suggestions that actually make sense
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>>538503035
I don't either.
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>>538503093
It was me
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>>538503132
>If I remember right, Ian Flynn said that Sonic Chronicles is set years after the mainline games.
That was just Ian's headcanon for Reboot Archie.
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>>538503009
06, forces and chronicles
the trinity of lost potential and destroying your franchise
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>>538502056
>>538502892
The doc answers this too. There’s a table of contents on the left if you read on desktop. Or just scroll to the bottom after it goes after 79/80
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>>538503240
Why did Sega change the entire fucking lore after the fallout of 3 different terrible games
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>>538503018
I like when characters have faults on a personal level, but the thing with the diamond cutters was made with terrible execution.
Lanolin fate was sealed the moment the fandom saw how bad she treated silver even of she was kinda right because she didn't knew duo was mimic but her fighting whisper was stupid.
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It would be fucked up IF Chronicles somehow came back and Archie is still dead even though it dragged Archie down to hell with it when the lawsuit happened.
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>>538503282
>leeching off Cream
The state of this character jesus christ
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I just had this dream about Lien-da being on a video game magazine and being called the sexiest game character
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>>538503282
imagine the threesome
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>>538502424
>>538503093
>inb4 non canon AU in a non canon spinoff
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>>538502805
then your post was also fanfiction >>538496320
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>>538503520
It's fine I'll allow it. As long as we all agree Sonic fucks princesses
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>>538501102
Whats your problem?
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>>538502472
Did they ever reciprocate in archie? Ever?
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>>538502892
>it’s criminal a fucking idwfag wrote it up and left it to die on tumblr
More criminal a small time youtuber isn't backing this up with coverage
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>>538503339
>06
They fired Naka and wanted the game out on holiday even though it wasn't ready. Game came out at the height of "Shitty friends" fatigue, Shadow fatigue, 3D Sonic fatigue, and generally just being a bad game to an infamous degree.

>Chronicles
Former Archie writer chimps out because the villains in the game are based off his own villains from the comic and then Archie tries to sue him and everything snowballs into a shitshow because Archie lost his contract.

>Forces
Not the same internal and legal trouble as the two above, but the game was the most underwhelming entry to date when it came out and lowered the morale of both the fandom and Sonic Team, and franchise took about 6 years to recover.
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>>538503479
It's true
>>538503608
None I just thought I'd never see that picture again
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I'm bored so I'll just autistically list a bunch of issues people have with IDW ( I do not reead IDW)

Sonic is deconstructed
>This comic portrayes Sonic as insecure which is inaccurate to the games
>This comic makes Sonic a comedian which is only accurate to the 2010s games
>This comic weakens Sonic's resolve so that he can worry more
>This comic gives Sonic a batman complex
>This comic gives Sonic a personal philsophy

Shadow is emasculated
>Shadow is portrayed as clumsier and weaker
>Shadow is defeated by a sitcom misunderstanding
>Shadow barely appears
>Shadow is hostile and conflict prone

Amy and Lanolin apparently take on the traits of Sally Acorn
>Both are now decidedly the foils of Sonic who want him to slow down and be smart (sic)
>Amy's romantic interest in Sonic is downplayed to a minor trait
>Lanolin prolongs character drama for years at a time

Worldbuilding
>The human race is absent from the comic despite being everywhere whenever earth is explorable in Sonic games

Out of character
>The characters all exhibit traits that are not in the Sonic The Hedgehog videogame series. Particularly Silver

Surge
>Surge is pitched as a villain for Sonic, but can't be taken seriously because she is weaker than him
did i get them all
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>>538503282
Silver -> Blaze -> Cream -> Amy -> Sonic

If only this chain of leeches could be a circle
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Whisper could have been better with silver
Fight me.
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The best thing about Sonic Chronicles is that it destroyed the Archie universe and forced it to align with the games. Now nobody can go back to archie issues and enjoy them properly because all of those characters are canonically dead.
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>>538503869
>fight me
but why?
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>>538503870
>When I bought Sonic Chronicles, I was actually buying a nuke that was going to wipe out the Archie comics.
Deepest lore.
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Reminder Flynn said that he finds world building to be indulgent.
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Shade... killed Sonally?
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>>538503282
Blazerine is better.
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>>538502056
>Tangle is Spunky energetic lesbian Sonic
>Lanolin is Grumpy big-breasted Shadow
>Whisper is Timid Lesbian Silver with sad backstory
Woah..
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>>538501660
>>538501717
A tough pill to swallow is that as a piece of fiction, what happens in-universe is dictated entirely by what happens in real life, even if what happens makes no sense within the fiction.
Why is Knuckles is 06? Because they already made him a playable character before they had started writing the story, Knuckles himself has no reason to be there and Eggman had no reason to rely on him to deliver a message to Sonic. It's a plot hole that cannot be remedied because there was no time to fix the script, the characters must behave in a way they wouldn't due to writing complications in real life.

A ship that would happen naturally now can't because it literally is not allowed to, no ship is.
>>538502325
I figured that could be inferred from "romance is illegal by corporate mandate".
Why would sex be okay if romance isn't okay?
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>>538503869
>artist creating an OC to ship it with her favorite character

many such cases, all cringe but based
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>>538503817
Or a wheel where Blaze is in the middle of all of them.
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Dodonpa can travel through time but won't bring back Maria
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I just think it's funny that Bioware decided that some Shadow-like edgelord girl was the ideal partner for Knuckles of all people.
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>>538504012
It is when you consider most Sonic narratives have nothing to do with the world, just the macguffin of the week.
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>>538503870
People have this hate boner for archie, the comic was is own thing and was mostly fine since 2006 (funny enough, we know the game part was gonna have a canon event)
It was just side media you can enjoy as a hard-core sonic fan, never understood the ultra exaggerated hate.
As someone above said, fleetway was its own thing too but no one batted an eye with it compared to archie.
People like to think that book got stuck in the dark ages, while the comic had really good quality for more than half the life of the book.
If you want somethig similar to the games, we'll, the game universe is the actual main universe, so you can play the games.
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>>538502682
bro that's like fucked up Sonic wouldn't let this happen..
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>>538503869
It couldn't be worse than whatever shit they always try with tangle.
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>>538504157
Shade seemed more similar to Blaze for me.
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>>538502472
Fleetway Sonic berating Archie Sonic for all of his faults would be a sight to see
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>>538504187
Bunnie Rabbot is my favorite western character and Archie made her get raped for a joke. Good riddance.
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>>538504242
Sonic would not give a single shit for more than five minutes.
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>PC going on blue screen reboot loops every few days
>finally transferred all my files to an external drive
Go ahead and die, piece of shit!
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I really wish people would stop trying to push Sonic X as in-character. You really do sound like satamfags.
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>>538504157
How was Shade edgy?
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>>538504159
Yet the franchise used to create locations so memorable that they have whole games built around them
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>>538502892
Imagine being this autistic, couldn't be me though
>>538502987
This man is based and I'm tired of pretending he's not
>>538503037
Jealousy breeds hate
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>>538504157
We know anon. You post about it like once or twice a thread.
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>>538504279
The meme rape allegations are extremely biased, nothing actually fucking happened beside both taking an actual literal nap.
You can blame penders, bollers or gabrie for that shit, I don't even know who wrote that issue
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>>538504440
As an excuse to make fun stages, not because the narrative mattered.
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>>538503240
None of these games destroyed anything.
06 is mostly self-contained and was only seen negatively over in the west due to Classic era fans being the majority at the time.
Chronicles never had the chance to destroy anything to begin with since it was always planned to be a non-canonical spin-off from the beginning and got immediately swept under the rug due to the Penders controversy.
Forces was always planned to be a tech demo for the HE2 engine and the many leaked scripts/conversations with Sonic Team members shows there wasn't anything noticeably missing from the final game besides Mephiles making a quick cameo(Which was obviously removed so westerns wouldn't make hundreds of forum posts/videos on "why didn't Sega used Fang or those robots from Mania"). Just minor scene alterations and dialogue.
The only Sonic game that destroyed anything was and still is Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric.
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>>538504301
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>>538504494
did you expect them to show literal porn?
the implication is very strong
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>>538503632
Shadow stopped his conquest for marriage.
I'm asking you this because I didn't read Archie, what does Archie Shadow get out of ending his rampage so he can marry Sally, why would he do that? What does that get him?
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>>538504279
Using the dark ages as a reference will always be bad anon.
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>>538503869
>WhiteHog boy x Brown Poc lesbian wolfgirl
It's problematic
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Japs liked 06.
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>>538504563
this is cringe anon, what are you, 12?
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>>538504187
Archie spent a lot of its run being a laugthingstock with bad art and cringy drama. But tides changed when Ian and Tracy came on the book with the former fooling people into thinking he was a devoted fan of the series by adding game content and the latter's art being more on-model that ended camouflaging the former's mediocre writing. Then Archiefags grew an ego and would barge in saying how the games and whatever other media was crap and that Archie was better written and was fixing characters and how the franchise would be better if it was just Archie. That eventually gained them hostility, especially from gamefags, who outright wanted the book dead, which eventually did happen.
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>>538504563
She looks mentally handicapped there.
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>>538504626
>Shadow stopped his conquest for marriage.
Shadow's conquest was a success and it ended up with Sally having to marry Shadow because she wanted some hold on power. Neither were interested in the other. Sally cucks Shadow the moment Sonic shows up.
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>>538504638
It sold just as bad as every other Sonic game there, and to assume that everyone who bought it liked it is a complete farce. Only weirdoes like Sonic in Japan.
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>>538504739
Check out the score Famitsu gave 06.
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>>538504538
>since it was always planned to be a non-canonical spin-off from the beginning
Nah, Sega was gonna make it canon. The writers of the game said Sega originally had plans for it. They even had something from it appear in one of the Olympic games.
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>>538504697
>looks
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>>538504625
By you opinion, what was the "very strong" implication.
Of course im not expecting literal porn, dont be radical, but I need you to be neutral.
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>>538504382
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>Preboot archie
>Has rape scenes
>shitty RPG comes out
>Forces a reboot to happen
>The rape is nolonger canon
this has to be the first time in history that a rape was undone. She was unraped. Saved from rape by the very man who wrote her to be raped.
She got her virginity back. That's beautiful. Don't you agree?
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>>538504739
All Japanese Sega fans are weird. Nintendo is king.
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>>538504538
Just nuke everything after Sa2 at this point. Hold off on reintroducing shadow and continue to SA3 with GUN as the primary antagonist.
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>>538504563
Amy blink twice if you're in danger.
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>>538504647
You can't blame a whole book for having crazy fans, thats the same reason everyone hate the sonic fandom in general.
Crazy fans we have on literally every sonic media.
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>>538504842
I have read that page with Scourge a couple of times. where was the rape implied?
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>>538504825
I'm letting you know because my life would never be the same without all my /sthg/ shitposting images, which means I wouldn't be able to brighten up your day specifically! Not to worry, though, Sharteenposter!
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>>538504647
Hating archie for having radical autistic fans is not a strong take to hate the actual book.
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>>538504825
>Shitjak image
The Sharty is two doors down, troonteen.
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>>538505039
It is in this fandom.
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mina mongoose's death was an acceptable sacrifice to save bunnie's purity
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>>538499387
A solid 80% or so of this needs to fucking go. We've told you to start over you sperg, you got rid of the best part.
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>>538504724
>it ended up with Sally having to marry Shadow because she wanted some hold on power.
Why would he accept that? He could've just refused to marry her and robbed her of her power anyway. He rules because no one can stop him, this is just reminding me of Lex Luthor going "Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to become president?", only Shadow actually became 'president'.
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>>538504842
She was fucking Antoine on the new universe, bunnie being a virgin? I don't think so.
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>>538504382
The blue screens will stop if you clean out the dust and check your internal temperatures.
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>>538504985
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>>538504770
Famitsu literally gives good scores to any devs who pay for ad revenue.
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>>538503632
No. The Shadow that married Sally was evil. Sally was trying to redeem him and failed.
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>>538505253
>doing that instead of just buying a new pc
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>>538505149
Probably to drive sales and make it more tragic (lol). The reason I started shipping them is because this political marriage lasted 25 YEARS. That's a long time, surely there was some attachment and canoodling.
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Leechaze has no place with any of them.
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>>538505336
I miss when famistu was neutral on things, since 2009, it got worse.
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Have a good tuesday morning, /sthg/
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>>538505461
I knew Famitsu was bought when they gave FF XIII-2 a 40/40.

Fuck right off with that.
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>>538504842
The reason why she can't be in crossworlds is because Joker would re-rape her too.
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He will never reach his full potential. Forget about him and move on.
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Gonna ask again but how is it that Flynn fails at branching out away from Sonic when his own colleague is easily doing this?
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>>538504448
autists like this are necessary. Instead of ranting about a different subject everyday on this god forsaken board, everything is all in one place. If it weren’t for autists like this sent docs to kishimoto, they’d still be rehashing green hill, chem plant and sky sanct in everything and we wouldn’t get original area tracks in crossworlds
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>>538504842
Sonic Chronicles cured rape?
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>>538505595
This but crassic sonic
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>>538504965
Nta, but peope are exaggerating, the comic showed up them kissing on another panel, then, they woke up on the woods after a literal nap on other panel.
People like to say it was rape because it was actually scourge disguised as sonic.
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>>538505654
Crassic.
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>>538505403
If the writers wanted it to be more depressing and shocking, why didn't he just kill her or throw her out in the streets or in the dungeon?
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>>538505149
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>>538505595
I'll forget about you and move on liking him more
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Dear Chroniclesfag. If you read this, please include Realdash's OC as Tangle's boyfriend because I hate Whispangle.
Thank you.
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>>538504825
>wojakfaggot
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>>538504770
No one who lived through 06 thinks 06 was good you idiot. It was so completely frustrating and humiliating that it's still synonymous with "travesty". Literally the only people who I ever see trying to defend it are sonic fans.
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>>538505612
You keep posting that shit when no one actually know what the fuck is that. Nor we care about reading it.
Want the cold truth? We only care about sonic, no one fucking cares about creator/writers drama nor about original ips of sonic writers.
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>>538505595
>blazefag mad that fans would rather make a game about silver rather than their shitty cat
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>>538505865
>No one who lived through 06 thinks 06 was good you idiot
Can you direct me to where I said that?
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>>538503035
Anyone who wants Sonic to be good, shouldn't care about what SEGA wants.
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Sonic 06 is a terrible game that is only remembered fondly because it didn't have obnoxious humor like the 2010s or obnoxious references like the 2020s
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>>538504842
Idk but I want to have sex with Bunnie buttbot
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>>538505791
As funny as that would be, including other people's OC's would be a slippery slope.
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>>538505921
No I'm fucking sorry
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>>538505871
Mindbroken PISSvercuck.
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>>538504825
Coalpost
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>>538505951
This is known khaleesi
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Dear Chroniclesfag. If you read this don't listen to that faggot.
Thank you.
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>>538505612
What the fuck is this piece of shit?
Looks like some mentally ill Smash autist made it
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>>538506016
We need a sonic OC creator 2.0 in frontiers 2 or SA3. I want a fully featured autistic OC creator. Forces was so disappointing. Imagine if the character creator was as customizable as Cyberpunk 2077.
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>>538505951
No one remembers 2006 fondly, what drugs are you on? everyone here knows it was the fall of sonic as a franchise until the movies saved our asses, and sega started to get their shit together.
The only worth thing on that game was the music and some parts of the story.
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Chroniclesfag if you can hear me

Please tell me that Sara from the OVA is in
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>>538505612
Do the rabbit and the human fuck?
Yes or no?
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>>538506056
Stay mad blazecuck, find another character to victim blame
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>>538505762
Again, why would Shadow bother with the politics of marriage when he's the strongest and might demonstrably makes right?
Surrendering to him I understand, "I know my place, so I won't oppose you" and all that, but offering him marriage is another thing entirely because he doesn't need to do that to get what he wants from her, he wants world domination and he can get it just be saying "accept my rule or die" after demonstrating that nothing can stop him.
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>>538503016
cool
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>>538503723
>did i get them all
No. You didn't mention the bad pacing or U-turn decisions from both Sega and the staff.
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>>538506460
Someone should draw Sonic, Shadow, or Silver in that
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>>538507125
Some decisions get changed after they make it to the page like the Metal Virus zombies losing the ability to liquefy because Sega realized that didn't work.
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Fuck all of you. Longclaw is the hottest bitch in all of Sonic history
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>>538507125
I have no way of knowing this, but it feels like whoever they correspond with at Sega asks a different member of Sonic Team every time about whatever they have questions about, so they keep getting different answers because nobody is on the same page even in Japan.
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>>538507575
Erm.. Proof?
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>>538507610
I think they mostly talk to Iizuka from what they've said. Toyoda and one of the Channel artists are also supposed to be character supervisors.
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>>538507575
Human from 800 B.C...
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BLUE EYELIDS
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>>538505595
FUNNY
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>>538507792
what
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Why do people always say Chaos killed the entire Knuckles tribe when that's not true? In Sonic Adventure it's obvious that the relics in the mystic ruins were made by the survivors of his attack
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>>538507792
Why are guys so much better as girls but never the other way around?
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>>538497984
>If the sonic team cast was real people, you can be sure rouge and sonic would be fucking like rabbits
You know what? I agree. This would be a fun exercise, if the Sonic cast were allowed to actually grow like real people instead of being stuck in an ageless void.
>Sonic
Still as windy as ever, but maybe gets more cynical.
>Tails
Develops schizophrenia and buries himself into his workshop to dull the pain.
>Knuckles
Decides to look into e-dating and thinks he found a female echidna only to get catfished by an orca.
>Amy
Finds herself worried about Tails being more withdrawn and basically becomes his therapist, realizing they have a lot in common, then soon finds out his tails aren't the only thing he has duplicates of.
>Rouge
What anon said, she becomes Sonic's friend-with-benefits then gets knocked up.
>Cream
She follows in her mom's footsteps and also gets knocked up young; Cheese becomes the new Chaos.
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Someone should draw Cream like this
https://x.com/broecchi/status/1868340723797590095
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Why does nobody acknowledge that Sonic Forces is the most "wind" Sonic story. Sonic being in prison for six months and unbothered by it? Everyone talking about how great Sonic is ALL the time? The entire planet devolving to shit when Sonic is gone? The universe itself summoning classic Sonic because "nature requires Sonic or else there's no balance"?
Isn't that exactly what hard core fans want?
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>>538502987
I'm surprised nobody's drawn more of this guy either from spite or interest
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Holy fuck 3D Blast bros get in here
https://youtu.be/LhClUuofias
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>>538508048
Girls have the pretty factor, hence why they are more often used as decoration. Also, fashion.
>>538508578
canon sonic character
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>>538508591
What the fuck…
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>Why do you need a screwdriver for a bowling ball?
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>>538508591
>Sonic, i know your hard console resets
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>>538508408
If Forces was really windpilled, Sonic never would've lost in the first place.
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>>538508048
because girls are just better and boys are lame
uuuuu....
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>>538508591
please find someone to adopt me
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>>538507575
See, you talk this big game and you don't even back it up with any hot pictures.
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>>538508901
Quit AI bot larping and go back to /b/ the place I sent you
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Why is S&K the best game ever and why are S&K the coolest guys ever?
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>>538508408
People want SA2 Sonic, a character capable of feeling while being the wind. Forces Sonic is the distasteful other end of the spectrum, the opposite of IDW Sonic
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>>538508591
What was he cooking?
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>>538508743
Boob grope please?
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>>538509167
because Sonic & Knuckles are awesome
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Windfags exist not because of the games but in response to IDW.
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>>538509437
But why can they never replicate this success
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>>538509728
You can't top perfection
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>>538509940
I would top them desu
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>Here, the usual.
>*sigh* You know, i... got new issues in my comic book, you don't need to binge into nostalgia every time.
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Pinkpill me on the tailwagging.
Is it actually a thing in the comics? Did it come from fanworks?
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>>538509978
based
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>>538510056
It's from the fans. It's cute, that's all
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>>538509992
..What are you doing with my favorite customer?!
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I like Zavok's voice
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>>538510056
It's a fan thing
If you see it here, it's normally to piss off SCANAfags
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>>538510056
It's non canon forced meme shit from people who hate Sonic and want to change it into something else
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>>538510218
She keeps serving me cold... I'm supposed to be hot.
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>>538508848
So the demon core is obviously radioactive, there's no doubt about that
But the point was that when the demon core was enclosed the particles would lack for a better word bounce around exponentially and cause a reaction, and that's why using a screwdriver tip to do the deed is now considered slightly foolhardy.
But actively touching the interior, surely that would be less dangerous? Not advisable but better than just shutting the lid and getting blue-wave ionised surely
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>>538510452
And as I sat there with my piping hot Fiona Fox, I thought they were laughing at the chef, but they were laughing at me!
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>>538509707
It's true.. Very true.. God bless the WindChads
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>>538508408
That just proves that “wind” is shit
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>>538510210
>>538510275
>>538510286
Fans only?
I could've sworn this isolated panel was official, and the lines around the tail imply wagging.
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>>538510960
This came as a result of it being popularized in fanart many years before it
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>>538510960
Huh, never noticed that before
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https://files.catbox.moe/sitxe7.mp4
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>>538496004
is this real
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>>538510960
The tail wagging is retarded, they're fuckin hedgehogs not dogs. Applying dog/cat mannerisms to all animals is serious brainlet behavior
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i love sonic
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I think it is exceedingly interesting that Jun'ichi Kanemaru thinks Sonic isn't just not perfect, but is surprisingly flawed and one of his favorite scenes with Sonic is the one where Sonic seemingly gets beaten to death by Infinite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzN99K8C4VA
You can tell he loves voicing Sonic, so this is very strange to hear these words from him.
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Was Sonic considered radical and tubular back then?
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>>538511754
You're thinking of Manic
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>>538511645
Should they have hedgehog traits then? Hedgehogs purr and their mating behavior is circling and huffing
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I don't understand Ian downplaying Sonamy. Not in the normal way but I mean I don't even understand it in IDW and Frontiers.
Where is it? She just seems to suddenly stop flirting with Sonic after the metal virus. It's not really given much discussion in Frontiers. She feels sad after watching the two water people die and then says she has to share love with the world. What is she talking about?
This is her moving on from Sonic? Why is it phrased in such an esoteric manner?
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>>538510960
I want to see the lineart version of that, I bet the artist had exaggerated wagging and then a baffled Sega told them to straighten it out.
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>>538510494
You are correct. The sphere is on the inside is a "subcritical" mass of fissile material, the exterior sphere is a layer of dense, neutron-reflecting tamper material. Criticality (self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction) you have to close it. What happened with one the incident was screwdriver that was acting as a improvised shim slipped outward and allowed the reflecting layer to envelope the subcritical mass, causing it to go critical.
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>>538511645
Sonic literally howls like a wolf at the start of every Werehog level in Unleashed.
>but Werehog!
Still a hedgehog, if anything, Werehog contextually means manly hedgehog.
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>>538511952
>their mating behavior is circling and huffing
So Shadow wants to mate Sonic? He does that all the time
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>>538511847
Notice how this is only done in the expendable fanfic but not the games.
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>>538511847
This is a coomer thing isn’t it
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>>538511645
Major blarms energy
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>>538512717
Because Sonic Team can't even animate Sonic's eyebrows properly.
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>>538512828
Even Sonic Channel art by Sonic Team doesn't do the tail wagging shit.
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Wtf is tubular
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>>538511645
Hedgehogs can move their tails but it's subtle. Like,
>>538511847
Most of these should be okay except for the second (the one where she's hugging him with winter gear), I'm assuming that was an early issue and then Sega said to make it less obvious after that.
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>>538513140
You are tubular, anon
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>>538512959
Amy's tail is not visible in the panels where she is at her most excited.
Even here, Blaze is lowering one of her eyelids instead of furrowing her right eyebrow in the first two panels and her eyelids are tilting in the third one.
What the hell, man, these aren't even models, though it's not like their renders are that much better with a few exceptions.
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the ironic thing here is that crossworlds just fucking killed uwuver in the fandom. we all just forgot about that.
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>>538513456
>Even here, Blaze is lowering one of her eyelids instead of--ACK
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I can't get over the fact that all Silver vs Sage fan art and all Silver potential discourse is downstream of people who misunderstand Silver, 06, and Silvaze and project that misunderstanding as absence or incompetence. Like the popular view is that 06 doesn't matter because it was erased, that Blaze being from the future was a retcon that was re-rerconned, and everything about Silver and Blaze is Sonic Team trying to smooth out plotholes.
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>>538513604
counterpoint: the edgy tryhard shit is a good countermeasure for idw's impact on the fandom
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>>538513509
Good, killing off uwuver is the first step in his healing process
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>>538513812
Next step is bariatric surgery
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Stop making fun of my dog-like tail. It's a condition. The condition of being in love.
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>>538513565
>in the first two panels
Can you please read the rest of my post?
It doesn't matter that they get it right by the fourth Blaze, they still fucked up the first two for no fucking reason.
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>>538513140
It’s like bodacious
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>>538513604
How does all the Silver vs Sage fan art goes against Silver character?
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>>538514042
Like a bodacious...babe? Sonic is that?
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FLOWING INTO THE LIGHT
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>>538514464
Flowlight?
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>>538514127
Why does she draw everyone with a baby face?
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It's the windfag, bring the shinto
When I breeze through it's crazy like tokyo
What they tell you? Leave that autism alone
Like Sally Acorn, fuck the archiefags
Fire the writer, you got the evidence
That faggot is archie alumni
When it rains it pours
Did you know the new blue arms was tumblr?
Flynn, you're planting your seeds
They're tryin' to replace my wind with weights
You so basic with your fake plot
Let's go sperg in the cyber space
Fire the writer, fire the writer, fire the writer, you got the evidence
I took back my wind, gifted it all to IDW
That's right, some fags gotta let loose
Not a criminal, I'm an inspiration
You so revisionist, this was DiC
Now everywhere I go is owned by IDW
Fuck them and the rest of you
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>silver is slowly moving away from Blaze
blazexistas, our response?
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>>538514982
They gotta find some other character to blame for her being shit
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>>538514982
Nothing ever changes with Sonic
So beautiful, his franchise is static just like him!
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boring
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>>538514080
The point of his arc in 06 is that he sacrifices himself to bring peace to the future and after 06 he protects the peace while enjoying the little things in life and hanging out with Blaze in between. People want to frame him like Guts in Berserk, like "the Struggler".
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>blazexi
Your strongest silverfag is currently trying to insert Blaze into your hype moments and aura future fanfics btw.
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Sage's fucntion is to take care of Eggman. If Eggman dies Sage would give up living.
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>>538515609
She's the heir to his empire.
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>>538514982
Good
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Why is Blaze not seen as a Chaos Control user?
It appears that she uses it in 06. She tells Silver to use it to lock her and iblis away. Silver refuses, then tries to but hesitates. Blaze takes the Chaos Emeralds and does it herself, as she described. She just doesn't shout "Chaos Control1" but she is literally using the chaos emeralds to warp time and space.
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>>538515112
Blaze is shit when she's an accessory to Silver's arc, which is always.
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>>538516114
Cause that's retconned, deleted, she barely knows any shit from it, she barely knows any shit from her own emeralds as well, since she didn't do anything with them until recently when she get to go burning and that's it, in IDW they tried to finger blast her saying the emeralds talk to her or some shit but that's about to be non canon soon.
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>>538511404
You're playing with fire
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>>538515580
>>538516234
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>>538516520
Built for human cock
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>>538516114
Now that you say it it's kinda weird...

How exactly does Blaze send herself to another dimension? I don't think the Chaos Emeralds can do that unless I'm missing a detail that I'm forgetting
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>>538516234
Yeah in Archie she was so good, they should bring that back!
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>>538516114
She uses the Sol Emeralds, actually. The Chaos Emeralds are only used to seal Iblis.
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>>538515580
>Your strongest silverfag
>gabs
It's like saying Ian is your strongest Blazefag, which is technically true.
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>>538516621
You're a nigger-brained powerscaler.
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>>538516760
I thought the strongest Silverfag was Evan

>>538516680
Except the Sol Emeralds are not mentioned or seen anywhere in 06
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>>538516234
Blaze is always shit actually, it's only when she appears fuckable next to Sonic she becomes good.
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>>538516569
this has "sister demanding to play video games with you" energy
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>>538516760
Both are true and Gabs is not on board with the fad if it means no Blaze next to Silver.
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>>538516828
>powerscaler
it's usefulness to the plot and to the franchise, and Blaze? does none of it.
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>>538517119
Somebody should tell her to stfu and teach her that character need to breath
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>>538516904
Evan isn't deranged enough to hold that title
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>>538516904
06 is poorly written. The manual mentions the Sol Emeralds. Blaze goes Burning Blaze at the end of 06. Maekawa didn't waste time pouring over every detail and was fast and loose with his interpretation of the characters.
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>>538517323
Well she is the second most influential Silver fan

It's basically:
1 - Nakamura
2 - Evan
3 - Gabs
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>>538516592
see
>>538516680
>>538517390
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I can't draw for shit with a pencil and I'm stuck with a mouse, but I want to visually convey how much this shit sucks and how incompetent Sonic Team are that it took them until Shadow gens to get basic facial expressions to work before I go to bed.
Also, robot expressions should not change like organics do, I do not want to see Metal, Omega or any other clankers frowning unless they're like the T-1000, so Neo Metal technically gets a pass, but he's on thin fucking ice. Goodnight.
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>>538517465
>implying that a silvazefag is a fan of silver
She is just a cuckqueen
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>>538509992
Surge, why is there a miniature Fiona Fox on that plate? You said you were making a roast.
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>>538514982
Both sides should be fucking happy, apart from Nega being actually back to his spot, Blazefags can have less schizo and Silverfags can be less of twinks
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>>538512056
Thanks for the info scienceanon!
>Orbot type badnik but if you jump on him he goes supercritical and you get the bad future
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>>538517390
Ok then
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>>538517546
>which is technically true
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>>538516569
>blaze can fly
>must come up with some retarded bullshit so they would be in completly not a made up sync
God gabs is so retarded its insane
Can she really just ack herself so silver would have less retarded fake fans
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>>538515927
This mf sonic zesty as hell
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Gabs understands Silver more than potentialfags. Silver is a bad character for women.
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>>538517390
It is rather telling that the discussion always returns to the failings of Sonic the Hedgehog (2006). You are quite correct. The writing was poor, and Mr. Maekawa's "fast and loose" approach is the primary reason for it. This was not an isolated incident, I am afraid.
The issue with Ms. Blaze in that game is a direct result of this carelessness. She was included due to her recent popularity in Sonic Rush, but with little regard for her established origins. The developers themselves were reportedly unfamiliar with her debut game. This is how a princess from another dimension, guardian of the Sol Emeralds, was inexplicably placed in Mr. Silver's future with no mention of her home or her duty.
While the events of the game were erased, the damage to the character's potential was not. It is a shame that such a promising character was squandered by writers who, by their own admission, did not care for the series' foundations and wished to create a version of Sonic that they preferred. It is no wonder that so many subsequent stories feel built on such a shaky, incoherent foundation.
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>Blaze tells Silver to use Chaos Control to seal Iblis and her away
>Silver doesn't do it
>Blaze takes the emeralds and does... something?
>This logically must be Chaos Control. The specific thing she told Silver to do
>Except she doesn't say Chaos Control
>It is never brought up again
>She turns into Burning Blaze for some reason (Iblis?)
>She fades away in a manner uncharacteristic of Chaos Control
>So maybe its some other thing you can do with the chaos emeralds that isn't chaos control
I don't understand Sonic 06
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>>538517848
>gabs
>undestands silver
>Silver is a bad character for women
lol
lmao even
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>>538516569
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lol
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>>538517923
Shiro Maekawa, everyone
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>>538508081
I want to be friends with Nicole and mini-holo Nicole
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>>538516569
Gabs is indian? Only they can be so stupid
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>>538517923
It is perfectly understandable that you are confused. You are attempting to apply logic to a script that possesses none.
The simple answer is that Mr. Maekawa needed a dramatic, self-sacrificial moment for Ms. Blaze and was not concerned with whether it made any sense. She becomes "Burning Blaze" as a lazy visual shorthand for containing Iblis. She performs an act similar to Chaos Control without naming it because the writers likely did not care for such details. She fades away in a unique manner because it is more emotionally manipulative than a standard teleportation.

One cannot "understand" Sonic 06. It is a series of poorly conceived events written by an individual who, as his handling of Mr. Tails demonstrates, had little respect for the characters or their established abilities.
You are looking for coherence where there is only carelessness.
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>>538516114
Blaze should be using "Sol" Control, not "Chaos" Control.
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>>538517923
I don't think Silver was done being developed before they had to settle on a design for him in order to get the game out on time, they clearly couldn't get his quills to rest looking like Sonic's and raise only when he uses his powers like they originally wanted to, so they just had his quills stand up all the time instead.
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>>538517923
>does... something?
Correct, she seals Iblis, which is not Chaos Control. She uses the Sol Emeralds to "seal herself in another dimension". Blaze didn't need to go Burning and being able to travel to "other dimensions" is not how the Sol Emeralds works. The Encyclospedia says she was "lost" but Ian said on BumbleKast that she just went home. This all makes sense but it's completely retarded.
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>>538517848
Gabs likes her more romantically charged ideal of what Sonic Team gave the fandom. Potentialfags don't like anything about the official work except Silver's character and powers.
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>>538517923
>>538518373
Apperantly Sega does know but won't us give an actual answer
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>>538516569
Trying to insert Blaze is into this just makes it dumber that Silver doesn't just deal with Sage in the present.
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>>538518001
>no no no he's like Guts I promise!
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>>538518740
The whole thing is dumb. Just let the poor girl have her fun
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>>538516569
I wonder how she’d react if Silver got a new girl sidekick and Silvaze was officially killed off
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>Gerald says Black Doom gave him the "giflt of Chaos Control" (Shadow gens) implying he did not already have it
>The Biolizard, which is an earth-native animal with no alien blood, can use Chaos Control already with an organ in its body
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>>538518615
I think there's a Sonic Channel story where the Sol Emeralds send Sonic to the Sol Dimension or something like that but this whole thing is an ultra ass pull by Maekawa. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that
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>>538518893
/sthg/ is filled with the most no fun allowed retards I’ve ever seen on a 4chan thread which is impressive
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>>538517798
>blaze can fly
Both of you are fucking retarded. she glides like Knuckles using her pathetic fire.
>but here she doesn't use fire she uses something els-
Kys, you're making it way too complicated and more boring, it's her fire.
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>>538518897
Imagine how she'd react to Lara-Su becoming canon and being Silver's full time partner.
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>>538518615
I thought the sol emeralds could indeed send blaze to another dimension? or was that the master emerald-esque staff that can do that? I know I remember it from somewhere. Maybe runners?
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>>538518906
Gerald wanted to give Shadow Chaos Control and immortality without being completely immobile and needing a life support system like Biolizard
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>>538519069
You had a stroke while typing this?
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When will I be able to transcend my weak human flesh and become a mobian
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>>538519148
The Ancient Scepter controls the Power of the Stars which is a force stronger than both the Chaos and Sol emeralds that ensures the existence of parallel dimensions. In IDW the Ancient Scepter is said to be able to call Blaze home.
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It's silverrapefag
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Ok so Blaze had the Sol Emeralds this whole time in 06 but they're a non factor until the very end when she uses them to seal herself in another dimension

Why the fuck didn't she use them at any point in their hunt for Sonic then?
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>>538519332
You mean Jeweled Scepter
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>>538519092
I don’t care about Archie OCs and I don’t want them anywhere near Sonic, Sorry
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>>538519449
I thought he trooned out
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>>538519285
I had a stroke trying to understand Blazefags forced, coping headcanons when it comes to her being a psychic because she looks indian and she hovers in the cover art without fire, or the fact that you made up that she can time travel that's why she appears after forces but late.
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>>538518906
>>538519221
>>538518906
>Also referred to as an S2 Organ, the S2 engine is an organ located within the core of an Angel[1] which grants it limitless energy at no cost. While not born with them, Evangelion can make use of S2 Engines,[2] freeing them from the need for their internal batteries or umbilical cables.
>A berserk Unit-01 is eventually able to obtain an S2 Engine from the Angel Zeruel by physically devouring the organ and assimilating it as its own.[6] According to SEELE, this acquisition makes Unit-01 an "absolute being" and the living embodiment of a god.[10] The S2 Engine is said to be the only thing (aside from, presumably, a soul) required to "complete" an Eva and bring it to a level of existence equal to Adam's.[4]
>Eva Unit 04 explodes because it was given an S2 engine
>Shadow needs limiters

it's always Evangelion, baby
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>>538519460
Because 06 bad story
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>>538519092
Ian didn't even mean for them to be romantic and they still had more chemistry than Silver ever had with Blaze.
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>>538519449
Literally fucking who
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I'm starting to think Sonic 06 makes no sense
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>>538519680
>Sonic world full of magic
>makes sense
Have fun with that
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>>538519463
Yes.
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>>538519680
Maekawa wrote Blaze in 06 to be a prequel to Sonic Rush, take that for what you will
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>>538519530
>blazefags out of nowhere
>all this shit
I don’t care about blaze and only care about silver
Just saying that gabs should fuck off and whole pair and made up sync is shit
Now take your meds
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>>538519804
This is the biggest bad writing excuse I've ever seen in my whole life
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the whole theory that 06 is how Blaze ended up in the sol dimension makes no fucking sense.
So did she create that reality on accident? Why is she a princess? Does she have the same curse as Elise? If she cries would Iblis show up and destroy the Sol Empire?
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>>538519667
>winks
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>>538519529
One thing i like about him is that he's on the opposite of faggotry
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>>538519530
>>538518129
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>>538519680
>seal me to another dimension along with the Sol Emeralds
this would have actually destroyed the Sol Dimension
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>>538519680
I understand what they were trying to do but this had the opposite effect after going through the lackluster story
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>>538515607
When they're twice their age they'll realize what they wanted was right in front of them all along.
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>>538519885
Not an excuse, bad writing and logic are separate, and as far as i'm concerned, no Sonic story made any fucking sense
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>>538519940
wow just like most of the anons here which is not making him really unique
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>>538520120
Which means most Sonic stories have poorly written moments
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Zor magic is supposed to be op as shit yet we never get to see it
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Bring back Metal Sonic 3.0
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DID SHE USE CHAOS CONTROL OR NOT
IF SHE DIDN'T USE CHAOS CONTROL THEN WHAT DID SHE DO? CHAOS NOTCONTROL?????????
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>>538520239
the fuck is zor magic?
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>>538519940
you're so obvious
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>>538519917
>So did she create that reality on accident?
Blaze sealing Iblis which is the power half of SOLaris, created the SOL Dimension with Blaze as the ruler because she's the one who sealed it
>Why is she a princess?
Because you need royal blood to seal Iblis, Blaze already having flaming soul already made her an acceptable vessel
>Does she have the same curse as Elise? If she cries would Iblis show up and destroy the Sol Empire?
We don't know
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>>538520170
>most of the anons here aren't faggots
i'm not trusting this.
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Evan gets shat on for drawing Silver's eyes wrong all the time and that's sort of fair compared to his 2D art but why does no one ever point out that Silver has literally always had round eyes in the actual games
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>>538520570
did you know that fags like to be vocal while non fags not
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>>538520406
meds.
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>>538519680
>Stop time and seal us into another dimension
This comes out of nowhere. Silver learned about sealing away Iblis from the Duke but Blaze has just been standing around the whole game and somehow knows all of this and what the Chaos Emeralds are.
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>>538520808
>wink
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>>538515607
>>538520045
I just don't see it work, it'd need a hell of a time skip with so much shit happening at which point they'd no longer even be recognisable. It makes more sense for Tails to just hook up with Cream, Sonic or even Rouge than a future HAGmy
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>>538519924
>>538520896
Draw something already faggot
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Leech and wind status
>Sonic T. Hedgehog
Hes the guy. The main dude. This is his series. He is wind. He, by nature of being main guy, cannot be leech.
>Miles 'Fails' Prower
Used to be windpilled, now he's grounded. Started out as a leech and has stayed consistent. The 'little buddy' whos existence and purpose is permanently tied to sonic.
>Knuckles "Never chuckles" Echidna
Super ground core, but not much of a leech. Usually shoved into the background and forgotten about until something something master emerald and he has to be dragged out to do shit against his will.
>Amy "Slut" Rose
Used to be wind pilled and now they're taking all her sauce away. Her leech status rises with her windless status, and now she's just around to be around. What does she even do now?
>Big 'Nigga" Cat
Max wind, Zero leech. Big is a real nigga. He busts in whenever and wherever he wants and he only wants one thing. His frog. And his fish. Hes respected by all and loved by everyone. Might be the most windpilled character next to sonic.
>Cream "The cunny bunny" Rabbit
Cream is like a smaller version of Big. Her wind status has only been rising over the years and any time she's on the scene she's a breath of fresh air. It helps that she tends to be busted on the few occasions she's actually allowed to do anything.
>Shadow "Ow" Hedgehog
Zero wind. In fact he's dipping into anti-wind, despite that he's the most leechless character in the series. Any time he's not around it feels like something is missing from the game. Every game should have Shadow in it, I dont give a fuck if it doesnt make sense, hes shadow, it does NEED to make sense.
>Rouge the Big Baps (formerly)
Tragic. Rouge is like shadow but with more wind. Thats always been the case. Sonic media feels lacking when she's not around, but thats less of the case as she gets nerfed.
>Omega
This nigga cool as hell.
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>>538519856
He just said he wanted them to be connected.
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How bad will Crossworlds flop? What are we looking at for damages?
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>>538521057
I have headcanon that Sally is the negative wind. The complete opposite of wind. That is why she's not canon because if she was canon she'd dewindify everything.
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>>538521036
Drawing your conclusion
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>>538520309
it don't matter

none of this matters
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Star Guarden looks really fun. They actually got David Humphrey.
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>>538520692
>why does no one ever point out that Silver has literally always had round eyes in the actual games
I think people like to remember Silver as cool, maybe cooler than he was
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>>538520309
Someone should ask Maekawa about this
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This franchise fucking sucks.
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>>538521420
IDW mad his eyes way more rounded
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>>538521420
>>538520692
He simply never did, his eyes are like Knuckles (well closest by)
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>>538521601
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This is a comprehensive explanation:
>at some point after Rush, the Sol Emeralds send Blaze to the future (to help "Sonic")
>Blaze spends an unknown amount of time establishing a bond with Silver, defeating Iblis with him at least once before the game starts
>Silver tried to seal Iblis (a technique different from the Chaos Control able to be used by a royal human) within himself using the Chaos Emerald like the Duke of Soleanna did to Elise
>Silver fails to seal Iblis because he lacks a royal soul
>Blaze takes the Chaos Emeralds from Silver to seal Iblis within herself which succeeds because she has a royal soul
>Blaze uses the Sol Emeralds to go Burning Blaze, either for hype moments and aura or because Maekawa thought that was how Blaze activated the Sol Emeralds
>Blaze is lost to another dimension (but the official internal canon is that Blaze goes home with Iblis but this hasn't been revealed)

>Sonic remembers 06 clearly (wind-privilege)
>Silver does not remember the Iblis future or 06 because he's effectively a new character
>ESP Silver from Speed Simulator follows canon rules and is removed from time
>Blaze has deja vu of 06 and Silver
>Eggman Negative was retconned and he apparently lied about being Eggman's Sol counterpart

>>538519917
>if she cries would Iblis show up
Presumably.

>>538520309
see >>538518615
It's also relevant to note Blaze's Sonic Channel profile used to say that the Sol Emeralds sometimes sent Blaze through space and time. This is corroborated by Ian on BumbleKast saying she just went home.
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You guys are so miserable
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>>538520479
Stop spreading disinformation.
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>>538521601
You have reached the final pill that a Sonic fan must swallow in order to grow up.
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>>538521057
Tails doesn't leech anyone, he's an established character that is very flexible. Plus he adds to Sonic's character as someone he can always depend on and cares about
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I like the Sonic franchise. I'm happy.
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>>538521836
>You guys have eyes
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>>538521837
>disinformation.
go back to scool
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>>538520392
What's up with Rouge's tail? Isn't it black?
>>538520929
Tails has the least chemistry with Cream, which surprises me since they've both been described as little-sibling figures to Sonic, and Tails repaired Gemerl for Cream.
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>>538521959
And you don't know what to exactly look at.
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>>538522012
>What's up with Rouge's tail? Isn't it black?
are you stupid
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>>538521679
>Silver does not remember the Iblis future or 06 because he's effectively a new character
He remembers growing up with Iblis but doesn't remember the 06 events which removed Iblis and restored his future
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>>538522123
Lmfao. Thanks anon, I needed some comedy today.
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>>538521837
Maekawa wrote 06 to be a prequel to Rush is not disinformation
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>>538522240
This is contentious and I've yet to see anything conclusive indicating either.
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>>538521679
>Eggman Negative was retconned and he apparently lied about being Eggman's Sol counterpart
He...He actually never said this... Seriously, go look and come back, it was always an audience extrapolation.
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>>538507439
Someone did
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>>538518297
The game was rushed, genius.
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>>538521679
And Blaze didn't use the Sol Emeralds to fight Sonic or Mephiles at any point bravo
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>>538520692
Oh yeah he was gay and stupid in the comics too right?? C'mon
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>>538522481
It was a retcon, I don't care how you justify it in-universe.
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Dow
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>>538522461
Silver character description says he came from a ruined future but now is very bright
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>>538516569
Shipping autism aside, I would play that
Interesting idea
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>>538518297
he was doing what nakamura wanted
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>>538522483
lmao his dick is so small
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>>538522598
Anon...
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>>538522012
>>538522125
Oh right, it's the suit.
Still, the boarder question: have we ever actually seen Rouge's tail, or is it covered up?
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Why are you guys all being wrong? Blaze blatantly went to the Paramount Dimension. This isn't a theory. This is a fact.
The "Rush Blaze" is the real one who's life continued into the modern games. The 06 Blaze landed in the Paramount universe. She must have cried at one point, unsealing Iblis who was later defeated by Knuckles (And then Wade in the echidna spirit world)

We know this is possible because Shadow Generations confirmed that the Paramount Universe and the Sega universe can reach each other.
Iblis has no other incarnations in any Sonic media. This is literally Iblis's second appearance. It's basically confirmed.
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>>538520692
Evan doesn't get shat on enough.
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>>538522679
Nakamura only gave him a basic set of instructions and that's it. Maekawa was given near full control and wrote this trash

>>538522550
One thing is a story being rushed and another thing is a story being completely broken and nonsensical
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>>538522749
Evan apologized you guys, we're still yet to see how she writes him.
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>>538522481
One thing that is certaint is that Nega needs a better redesign, he looks lame no matter where he truly comes from
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>>538521897
>tails doesn't (headcanon)
Yeah nah, he's the leechiest character in the franchise. He's literally made so that little brothers can have something to do while big bro plays sonic.
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How do you plan to pass the time until 2027? There won't be any good Sonic games in the meantime, so I'm curious what you guys are playing instead.
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FAIRY TIKAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tBNyoIb7CY&ab_channel=SEGAHARDlight
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>>538522665
Still ambiguous.
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>>538522618
If Eggman Nega is from the same dimension as Blaze, why isn't everyone else from that dimension a warped-color version of their main-universe counterpart called "[Character] Nega"?
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>>538522840
Trusting a woman to change after one apology is likely why you're single and visit here.
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>>538522975
Crossworlds again and again, bullying everyone and getting banned every month
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>>538522734
This may be the only instance where it isn't covered.
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>>538522936
How is that "leeching"? People like Tails for who he is
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>>538522989
look at the dainty ass run she has, lame ass character

demuree and cutesy ahh
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guys, 06 was in development for longer than rush. get over it. There was never an "original Blaze" who Silver stole. Eggman Nega was always Eggman's biological descendant.
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>>538523128
Good for you, man, not everyone can tolerate SEGA's laziest ideas.
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>>538523218
Both games began development in 2004 around the same time, Rush came out first
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>>538522975
VF6
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>>538523119
Women say the same shit about us, let's just see what she does aight?
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>>538522481
>spoiler
Oh my god, I feel hoodwinked.
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>>538523383
Now we're talking.
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>>538523218
>At some point, Eggman fucked
>And not only did he fuck, he nutted raw too, yelling "Get a load of this!" as he did so
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>>538521952
He’s so retarded holy shit
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>>538523218
Nah all Silvazefags have to live with being a fraud, sorry.
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>>538523198
Hush she a BADDIE
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>>538521837
Amy Rose!
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>>538522975
>There won't be any good Sonic games in the meantime
Simply play CrossWorlds and other games.
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>>538523218
Is he a direct descendant of Eggman himself or just a future member of the Robotnik family in general
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>>538523106
Because the whole idea of the Sol dimension was shallow and poorly thought out
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>>538523580
>>538523247
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>>538523218
I like Nega being Eggman's descedant more, I just wish he had his own body shape
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>>538522975
Minecraft, been some time gotta catch up with the updates
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>>538523197
>>>>>>>People like tails
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Rosy~
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>>538523537
He's a windfag. Windfags are always right
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>>538523421
She already shoved a nonbinary Jester at us, I'm not fucking interested in the slightest what she has to say about Silver or literally any other character from the cast. They ruined the comic with their garbage.
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>>538523597
Descriptions says that Nega is Eggman's future descendant
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>>538523383
Hey it's that guy from Dead or Alive 5
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>>538521952
Eggman nega has a personality?
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Nic
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>>538520692
>Silver has literally always had round eyes in the actual games
He doesn't. While they're modeled in a way that makes them more round (Jet and Shadow can be like this too) they're always upturned and have a point when he closes them. Evan drew Silver and most other character's eyes with the same egg shape as Tails which goes against his character design.
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>>538523728
Yes
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>>538523779
Cry more maybe the creators will hear. OH WAIT.
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>>538523624
You build higher tolerance when you don't stick with one franchise.
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>>538523682
I just got asked to give Mincraft another chance. I haven't played since they added the hunger bar, idk what update that was. I know rain was also new then too. I might take them ip on it.
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>>538516569
This tranny guy can fuck off for all i care.
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>>538523830
>AND STOP STARING AT ME WITH THEM BIG OL EYES!
>(shrunk)
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>>538523786
Could he possibly be SAGE'S descendant?
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>>538523736
Slut.
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>>538523915
Incorrect. I have only gained a sense of quality awareness, and noticed we don't fucking have anything close to even decent quality. We're being outpaced by indie decs at this point. Youtubers are making that games that SEGA simply can not anymore.
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>>538522665
How is that possible if Iblis was never released

>>538523786
>Description says that Nega is Eggman's future descendant
But Eggman dies in Silver's original timeline

Silver and Blaze were a MISTAKE.
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>>538523805
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>>538524032
I dream about Rosy stealing me away and putting me in the amazon position on my teacher's bed (dont ask why the teacher's bed)
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>>538523807
Tailsfags are so weird bruh
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>>538524123
Sega can make games of that quality just fine, SONIC TEAM are the ones who can't.
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>>538524263
They're the only ones that get to freely spam while other people get banned for talking about Sonic. I swear they have connections to jannies. It's the only way I can explain the stark bias.
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>>538524149
>How is that possible if Iblis was never released
Because Silver wasn't rewritten or erased by the ending of 06. He only forgot the events of the game.
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>>538524162
I'm sorry but no. Why the teacher's bed?
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>>538524351
Persona fucking sucks. Streets of Rage 4 was fuckong forgotten the second it came out. Yakuza is a shadow of its former self. And this new nostalgia pandering era is annoying except for the new shinobi.
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>>538524401
Amyfags post porn every day and you didn’t even bat an eye. Hypocrite much?
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>>538524123
Do you play Sonic exclusively?
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>>538524401
Tailsfags talk about Sonic
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>>538524149
>Silver and Blaze were a MISTAKE.
Agreed. The franchise didn't need a purple knuckles in a pocket dimension and a walking rewind button living for an ever-changing future when the main character is all about living in the now
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>>538524347
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>>538524575
No.
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>>538524530
Per her request.
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>>538524704
Simply play other games.
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EXPLAIN THIS WESTKEKS
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>>538522989
Is Tikal dead or not?
>if yes
Why isn't she doing her species duty with Knuckles?
>if no
Why isn't Maria playable?
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>>538524608
>and a walking rewind button living for an ever-changing future when the main character is all about living in the now
Silverfags see this as a good thing because the idea with 06 is that Silver represents the future, Sonic represents the present and Shadow the past

However Sonic already does represent the future. Look at Sonic CD, that game already had Sonic creating good futures across Little Planet. Sonic's actions in the present lead to good futures. This ends up making Silver redundant next to Sonic
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>>538511741
I like him
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>>538524810
I do. That doesn't mean Ill forgive Sonic's lack of quality. I like other series, I just want Sonic to be good, even though clearly he won't ever be again.
>then why stay her-
Autism.
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>>538496603
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations
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>>538524895
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besties will never beat the Amyfags allegations
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>>538524953
It also makes Shadow redundant next to Knuckles or Blaze redundant next to Tails, but no one will admit that.
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>>538520045
The childhood friend who could've been.
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>>538520692
No. They're pointed when he closes them.
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>>538525085
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>>538518297
>>538522821
Maekawa still wrote the most intriguing and engaging Sonic stories despite his faults with this story in particular.
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>>538525109
Yes
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>>538525142
Yeah why the fuck not, even rule 34 has made top notch art of it.
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>>538524914
Strike that, reverse it. You know what I mean.
If Tikal is officially dead then what's stopping them from bringing back Maria or Gerald?
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At this point they just need to explain why the fuck Blaze is in 06 and Eggman nega needs to change to being born in sol, that's like a very good first step to fix the timeline.
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Amy and Tails could marry each other and still find a way to make it about Sonic, and theme the whole wedding after Sonic, and name their kids after Sonic, and continue to follow Sonic everywhere.
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>>538525285
見て、テイルス!
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>>538524769
oh
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>>538522821
What about that lady writer?
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>>538524998
kek, I was going to say play the Sonic games that make you happy. I do that all the time. You don't have to forgive them either.
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one small concept about the future, and everyone on his side. easy.
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>>538522989
Sex
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>>538525467
i don't even know who the cuck is in this situation
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>>538525142
Anon's headcanon that Amy died young in Light Mobius, and Mina snapped Tails out of his depression.
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>>538520692
Evan should fucking die.
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>>538525656
Silver's whole deal is going back to the past, not staying in the future
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>>538525785
You're asking for more uwu shit every time you say crap like that.
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boob in my owski
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>>538524914
Bodies of sex
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>>538524514
>he helped restore its blue skies and peaceful days - even if he can't remember how
This still doesn't make sense. The "How" is that Iblis was stopped from coming to life, when Elise put out Solaris' flame. Unless Silver's timeline a "branch reality" and wasn't affected by this?
But that can't be true either, because Rogue sent a Chaos Emerald to the future by storing it with Omega in the past.

NONE OF THIS WORKS
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Amy will love Sonic, even if she was with someone else. She'll never get over it and that's just the way it is. It just sucks for whoever her lover is.
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Tails x Sonic x Amy.
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>>538525142
>Sonicfags fucking nuSonicfags into existence
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>>538525816
Nah it would feel like he abandons all of them
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>>538523728
I love Tails
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>>538525992
Disgustingly accurate ship. Let's sweep it under the rug
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>>538525785
For writing a comic you don't like? Cmon now
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>>538525992
combination boobjob/tailjob on Sonic
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>>538525992
I remember a domain called furry bomb when it actually happened tails was the middle of the sandwich.
It had a full tailsxamy story too, with some sonic implications too.
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"Fuck Shadow" poster I am coming for you, and when I find you I will ejaculate my hot golden semen inside of you
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>>538525863
The only time Silver has ever been popular is when they started doing the uwuver shit. Woman love that shit. They finally got part of that imaginary audience they're after.
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>>538525656
shitty fanart will never make shitver less of a shitty shadow ripoff
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>>538526087
>it would feel like he abandons all of them

WHO!? SILVER HAS NO ONE!
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>>538524149
>How is that possible if Iblis was never released
They way Sega does time is just changing the current future like "everything happend but Iblis is gone now" rather than creating a new future timeline
I know it doesn't make any logical sense but that's how they wanted to do it
Why else would Sega introduce Silver with this whole backstory with him coming from a ruined future which is why he is so hopeful and protective it, only to remove that whole motivation and context in games after
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>>538525457
The Sol Emeralds sent her there to help Silver. No answer about Blaze and Silver will be satisfactory because their relationship is high-concept slop.
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>>538526612
>>538526612
>>538526612
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Fuck earlyposters
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>>538526693
Yeah buddy, think of the total 4 posts we coulda had!
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>>538526313
Silver's future has people in it you dingus.
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>>538526473
>>538526473
>>538526473
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>not waiting till page 7
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Outstanding. (I'm the Joker)

>>538526757
>seethe
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>>538526820
People that we never see so why should we care about them?
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>>538526635
>>538526857
Stellar work there, you couple of genuises
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>>538526757
>>538526635
>>538526857
This is why we wait, genius
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>>538526910
And I thought my jokes were bad.
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>>538526910
lol
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>>538526969
This is a stupid argument. It's like saying Blaze's dimension didn't matter to her because we don't see it before Rush Adventure.
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>>538526857
This was made first fwiw
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>>538527110
It didn't.
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If windfalseflaggers don't stop with the windshit I will literally blow the spot up right now.

>t. windnigga
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>>538527226
>Characters lives don't matter if we don't see them
I'm not even going to engage with how stupid that is.
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>>538527471
>>Characters lives don't matter if we don't see them
Yes. It's fiction dumbass.
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>>538525785
Slashy...
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>>538527220
So we have three threads.
>one was created first put linked here at the post cutoff
>the other was created second but posted here early
>the last was created at the right time but the idiot op forgot to link it here
Which're we using? I vote the third, it's a little more by the book, I thimk the op had a heart attack seeong the other two threads.
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>>538528303
Try them all like ice cream flavors.
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>>538528303
Everyone's using the middle so Silver it is (Sega take notes).
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>>538528303
>>538528765
Silver's is completely legitimate because he is a time traveler.
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boobowski boobies
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>>538526293
>Silver seether mad and keeps spamming his samefag post over people loving silver and having shadow fatigue
kek



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