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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8653 - Deadly Six Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
EN: https://youtu.be/1nIhfo2X0oI
JP: https://youtu.be/BVoDsexw0NM

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - The Animation
https://youtu.be/5ocBa8jTXUA

>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crew
https://youtu.be/GiYfo0Wy2NA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk #8 | Silver & Blaze
https://youtu.be/CNZgW0480go

>Mobile card game Sonic Blitz
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Movie Spinoffs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - December 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
https://tails.kicks-ass.net/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OCs:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixels:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Fun demo but I'm still turned off by the price
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Probably the shittiest game I tried in years. Cars control like gondolas, you can drive straight into "walls" and nothing happens, walls are blocked off by invisible walls for some reason (too lazy to animate ramming an actual wall?)
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She's in
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>>539642067
#8653 because we had two 8650s >>539517663 >>539557272
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>>539641957
Wait, bros. I thought Ian was told the Deadly Six weren't friends?
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>>539642256
Fun demo but Im still incredibly turned on by Cream.
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>>539642358
No...
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>>539642289
I feel the exact same. The core movement and physics are profoundly mid but there's so much other shit going on to make up for it. The game is genuinely not "good" but it is very fun.
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>>539642342
Sega higher-ups >>>> Iizuka > Ian >>> the other guys
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>>539642289
Do you have steering assist on?
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Evil little girls...
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Just like Silver, the Zeti aren't going away. They are part of the mainstay cast.
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>>539642289
I can't tell if this is a joke about journalists being bad at games and not being able to get past tutorial levels or someone actually is this bad
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>>539642212
>acurate
>faithful
Throwing stones out of glass houses with this one

Slashy, you're bordering on the insane, how much of your hard drive is just full of edits of one man. You've made collages, edits, videos, audio recordings, you've trained an AI to speak like his bumblekast, you've AI'd videos of him
There are Bethesda fans who restrain themelves better with parodies of Todd than you do Ian and that's saying something
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Real!
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"チームディメンションズ" - Team Dimension.
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>>539642551
Sex creature...
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>>539642067
Female Sonic characters:
>wear clothes
>have eyelashes
>don't have muscle brows
>have flatter muzzles and noses than males
>if they are 18 and over then they have lidded eyes
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>>539642758
Team Contrived
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>>539642650
i'm not Slashy, don't bring me into your autistic attention whore drama
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>>539642775
Why doesn't Mimic just become a prostitute? He would make a billion mobiums just by taking the appearance of Sonic.
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>>539642758
blaze was the focus of two whole games and the biggest impact she's had was as silver's pet
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>>539642758
I hope Marine gets added to their team
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>>539642758
Mental illnessu.
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>>539643038
Why
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>>539642963
Cause he could just rob a bank by turning into the bank teller.
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>>539643038
blazefags are retards who want to scrap everything that makes her a parallel to sonic just so she can bum off him for relevance instead of doing it to silver, and they still think she has potential
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>>539642964
If that were true it'd be called Team Future.
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>>539643038
It will be Ariem
Sol Dimension
Future Dimension
Dream Dimension
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>>539643224
silver is the icon image
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>>539643038
Marine would have even less of a dynamic with Silver than Blaze does.
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>>539643038
Only a miracle will let Marine appear in this game.
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Douge
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>>539643274
This.
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>>539642551
NO!
That's not a little girl!
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they should add Bump to Crossworlds
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>>539642212
Ian is just a glorified localizer
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>>539642870
Team "We want another Shadow but we don't actually know why he was popular"
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>>539643764
I wish
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>>539642551
Need correction
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>>539643764
he's a dogshit localizer that makes american fans seek out the japanese script
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Mariuge.
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Discuss
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>>539642758
That’s a cool car why didn’t they just make that for him instead of whatever bathtub looking Go-kart he has? Is Nakamura stupid? Is he dumb? stupid or dumb?
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>>539644191
Sonic being Native American feels really appropriate
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>>539644208
All the base cares are shaped like the character's heads.
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>>539644191
Can you put the blacks on the very bottom to make black people mad?
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>>539644208
All handling vehicles need to look girly or faggy as fuck and only Speed type chars can make them work
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>>539644191
Marine is black, I mostly agree with the rest.
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So what will be the next goal post when they release in december? That it's a crossover game so it doesn't count? They'll only be in spinoffs? Does it even matter at that point?
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>>539644445
They're not getting in the game.
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>>539644445
why the fuck is whisper so fat?
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>>539644373
You know what that feels good, I'll move her to black
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>>539644191
Sticks is hapa

Amy is black but like Stacey Dash in Clueless
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>>539644608
>>539644373
>Marine is an Aboriginal
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>>539644520
Ah yes, the plug your ears and tune it out cope. I mean it's only coincidence that there will be TWO characters releasing in December with no new vehicle while their suspected vehicles are base game.
It's only coincidence that the IDW tie-in comic also releases in December.
It's only coincidence that the comic specifically integrates Tangle into the plot.
It's only coincidence that there are two different DLC markers in the code that specify that there's a difference between characters that come from Crossworlds and ones that come from Travel Rings (also explained in the tie-in comic)
December's going to be a riot
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>>539643865
Whisper needs to correct him while he's stuck looking like Cream.
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>>539644329
>"Shiruba-san is manry and very mascureen, you gaijins just don't understand! "
>every single thing about him(even his english dub) is fucking gay asf
Sega is like really stupid
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>>539644329
>>539644869
>handling type
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>>539642963
What would he spend the billion mobiums on?
Beating Sonic in a race?
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>>539644850
>Muh easter egg boards and cars!
>Muh non-canon comic!
They're NOT getting in.
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I wonder if it's also coincidence they'll be getting into a console game the month before the main comic moves past Frontiers
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>>539644612
Amy feels really 90's Japanese teenager to me man but maybe I'm biased.

>>539644612
Hapa like mixed black islander? It gets to a point where you can't get too specific because knuckles is specifically something like a mullato in the traditional sense of the word, indigenous native Mexican mixed with black so I just picked what felt most prominent.
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>>539644445
I'm sorry they're not in, Vidya only club
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>>539644982
Of course!
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>They're not in
>They're not in
>They actually do release
What then?
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>>539645231
Nothing? They're not getting in the game. The real question should be what are YOU going to do when they're deconfirmed?
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Tangle and whisper getting in would be ASS
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>STKfags hate boom for shilling Amy as part of the team
>Amyfags hate Boom for making Amy the naggy bitter girlboss she is now

man, its almost like boom was a fundamentally dogshit idea that shouldn't have happned
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>>539645231
the next goalpost will be "At least they don't talk and the sonic characters don't acknowledge them"
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>>539643274
>>539643494
Is Ariem even allowed out of her dimension? Yeah we got Dodon Pa but aren't there rules on these kinds of things?
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>>539645350
This will be a very funny post in December
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>>539645595
Yes, when it's proven correct and IDWfags were setting themselves up for more disappointment.
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>>539644739
Sounds awesome!
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>>539644445
You only post this to laugh at Archiefags. As for the game itself, all this crossover shit and lack of a storymode means the game might not be canon. That would explain why the Prime characters are showing up despite
>Checks notes
Having their dimensions being wiped out with the Paradox Prism.
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>>539645585
Werehog is literally right there
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>>539645607
He's having so much fun
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>>539645710
Isn't Prime getting another season?
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How many sentient beings Sonic killed?
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>>539645585
There were never any rules. Sonic Team does whatever they want. Gaijins can't

>>539645696
More?
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>>539645350
Nothing, because they still get regular content, acknowledgement, posable figures and will be continuing to do so (since IDW stock went up). There's no consequence or changes for me if they don't get in, I'll still main the Whisper board.
But there are very real consequences and changes that will spook this board if and WHEN they get in.
So what will YOU do in the case of the so called impossible occurring?
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>>539645710
I thought the implication was that shadow took the prism into the shatter space?
Actually I'm curious, have any Archie characters gotten into ANY officially licensed Sega game? Because whisper and tangle are in that mobile running game. This wouldn't be a new precedent.
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>>539645723
>>539645710
Fair.

In that case Ariem is the only living character on the character chart not to be in CrossWorlds.
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>>539645946
Freedom Fighters are in Spinball, that's about it
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>>539645947
I want this Amy back. Sonic X was pretty alright for what it was (if you watched subbed)
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>>539645879
IDW stock didn't go up they did a reverse stock split; they cut the supply and increased the price.
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>>539645879
Their comic isn't canon so I don't have to worry about they getting in, because they aren't.
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Purist anons, what would you do if IDW hypothetically got into the games, not that they will, mind you, it's just a quick thought exercise.
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>>539646119
Keep telling yourself that. 3 more months, tick tock
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>>539645946
Nope. the Archie characters only existed in their comic. Nowhere else in the franchise.

>>539646012
The Freedom Fighters are SatAM characters and that was the basis for their cameo in that game.
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I don't care about IDW where's my switch cart dump
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>>539646076
Sonic had to steal Amy's traits to stay relevant
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>>539646189
Have it be actual game versions of Tangle and Whisper.not cheaply be like "If you want to know why these characters are here or their backstory, read the shitty comics!"
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But Amy is like this, Sonic's just learned how to keep her subdued more if he pushes her enough she becomes like this again
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>>539646117
It just went up by 75 cents
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>>539646189
sigh about the direction of the franchise and the characters
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>>539646307
>Sonic is forever chasing Eggman and wanting something he'll never get
Yeah that is a real Amy brain.
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>>539642758
Where Ariem
Or Sticks
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I appreciate all Sonic media, whether its Amy, Knuckles, Sally, Bunnie, Manic, Sonia, Porker Lewis, Tekno, Whisper, Clutch, Anton, Tania, Agent Stone or Topaz. all are getting their guts spilled out
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>>539642212
>'Boy Prime
Kek
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i miss racing with cream im going insane
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>>539643274
>>539643494
>>539644842
Goyslop
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>>539646485
Looks like they finally turned a profit this quarter.

I wasn't the guy you replied to, I was just clarifying.
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>Blaze
>Silver
>and my heckin OCs from westslop
It should be Marine
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>>539647201
Why?
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>>539646189
I actually want them to be in the game just for Sega to turn them straight
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>>539647201
>>Blaze
>>Silver
>>and my quirky japslop OC that the literal game script called annoying and useless
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>>539647369
What does that imply?
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>>539646950
Dude it feels like actual withdrawal man, if Sega didn't fucking cuck me by making dream team apple only it wouldn't be this bad I NEED MY RABBIT man just let me in man she's not even in the demo man I'll suck your dick Sega please.
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>>539646307
Primenic was like unholy mixed of Amy, Tails and Movie Sonic. Truly the worst Sonic there is
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>>539613043
Reminder this faggot doesn't know anything
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>>539647201
Marine doesn't do anything for Silver. I don't understand why people want her on the team with him so badly.
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>>539644292
Nuh uh
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>>539647557
Westerners keep doing this shit so there must be a market for it, but they're too stupid to realize the character they're looking for is Amy
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Grr...
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>>539647893
*pinches cheek and gives you a juice box*
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>>539647797
>Sage driving a microwave
>Silver driving a bath tub
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>>539647378
Better than shoo horning the latest throwaway pooch to justify a team

>>539647752
Maybe it's time for SEGA to actually utilize Marine instead of leaving her behind for a show immagrant or a Walmart Nights oc
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What Sonic scenario would happen with this song?
>>https://youtu.be/VD345kX97Q0?si=1BX7D23GQT9azHUg
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>>539647557
I really wasn't a fan of primenic either. He got hoed waaaaay too many times it's that thing of making the MC incompetent just to make everyone else look better. I liked 9 a bit though. Very mid series
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>>539648029
The comment section of this makes me want to kill you. Mid song also, this is like a throw away level theme in some factory setting no one likes because it has too many slow down segments.
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>>539643764
What >>539643809 said. Remember that the mainstream Sonic fanbase is entirely unaware of Sega's fucktarded script system and thus assume that Ian wrote the "true" script and Kishimoto was the "localizer" for Japan. I think only that Bridget censorship guy is the only e-celeb to actually bring it up.

>>539644485
This pic actually kinda sold me on Ariem as a Power character.
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>>539648009
Even if you utilize Marine she still doesn't jive with Silver at all.
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>>539648296
It is a from a level no one likes in Hotline Miami 2, but ever since i mastered it and it makes me feel like a badass
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>>539648369
>assume that Ian wrote the "true" script and Kishimoto was the "localizer" for Japan.
Is that not what happened?
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>>539648520
it's what happened, the game's animation confirms it
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>>539647752
No one cares about silver, they want the actually liked character to be around a character from her own games and not that fag hedgehog. Who the fuck would you put on a team with silver anyway, he has no characters to shove with him, even blaze doesn't fucking work with him already.
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>>539647752
They want her to be the in-universe Silvaze shipper. They don't actually care about the character.
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>>539647880
>so there must be a market for it
Vietnamese Sonadow fags
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>bestie
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>>539648786
>No one cares about silver
Silver is more popular than Blaze, male hedgehog privilege goes farther than the Rush games.
>they want the actually liked character to be around a character from her own games and not that fag hedgehog
Blaze's fans don't want her to be Silver's accessory and they certainly don't want her supporting cast turning into his.
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>>539649220
Likewise I don't want Silver being given pity friends from other groups as staples. Give Silver his own things or don't bother
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>>539647734

dude is the biggest shill since the shill came to shilltown
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>>539649287
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>>539649443
Not until Nakamura can finally make his Silver the Hedgehog video game that marks the start of a Silver spinoff franchise.
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>>539649287
This but literally every other Sonic character. Shadow deserves that spotlight
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>>539649287
>amyfag blaming shadow
so it's true
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Adding Marine to Silver's "team" would instantly and irrevocably destroy Silver's aura. Someone grounded and silly like Marine totally fucks up his vibes.
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>>539648520
>>539648602
TL:DR, the Japs create the plot outline and the Ian script, while completed first, is essentially the "rough draft". The japs slice off or alter things as they see fit and that's the version of things (characterization, referenced events, etc) they go with going forward in the series. Example: Ian's script alludes to Sticks' existence in mainline Sonic. She's vaulted and considered off-limits (pic related) from his stubborn refusal to budge on his idea to reintroduce her as a "substitute Master Emerald guardian" for Knuckles in IDW, so that part was removed and she's never been alluded to in any other game before or since.

Timestamp of the guy I mentioned explaining it: https://youtu.be/5wPQsWzrSsI?t=497
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>>539650078
I ain't watching that
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>>539649287
Shitdow fatigue is so real it's crazy
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>>539650078
Remember what his inflexible autism took from you.
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>>539650379
You mean SONIC TEAM'S autism? Are we already forgetting what they did to Shadow until Jeff Fowler slapped his dick on their foreheads?
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>>539650559
It really does make it seem like Rouge has a harem.
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>>539642810
okay, what about it
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>>539650684
He's saying if you like Amy you are a lolicon
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>>539650228
I can't fathom this. This sounds ass-backwards as fuck. Why would Sega go the extra mile to include an overseas guy in the process AND serve that guy's version of events in the sold product to the market that keeps Sonic afloat, only to turn around and toss it all out in their home country and deliberately create dissonance and warped expectations for future games?
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>>539650816
You are also a zoophile for fucking an hedgehog but that doesn't stops anyone here
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>>539650880
Meant for >>539650078
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>>539650880
They want creative control but America is the primary market.
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>>539651038
No, I mean, why even get Ian in the first place? You could easily just have your JPN dudes to write the same script for both since you'd have control either way.
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>>539651203
gaijinslop
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>>539651256
No. Sol dimension is never getting mainline focus.
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>>539651319
The comic writers were actually given the opportunity by Sega themselves to go at it. And completely threw it away.
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxeAlOkokO1tmQ00A4LomSTH_maYXAX4NW?si=__j81JZzRYhm0M49
>Q:Are there many mandates on using the Sol Dimension? It’s a bit disappointing to me how there doesn’t seem to be much interest in expanding on it
Ian: No. If anything, they were surprisingly receptive. Like when we showed Blaze's palace. That had never been established before and we asked specifically "Is there any unused concept or is there anything that we can do to be in line with the concept?" They didn't have art specifically but they did have design notes and technology levels and general themes to follow and so we designed it off of that. As far as I know that's kind of the working concept for it now? Maybe? The thing with the Sol Dimension is that it's just really hard to get to. You can only get there via the sol emeralds and those are only held by Blaze so to bring anyone there you have to have a bit of a circumstance. Blaze has to Ferry people over. There's Sonic Rush Adventure where it was vague how it happened, but I think ultimately it's kind of implied that the emeralds worked together, maybe?
Kyle: The warp topaz blasted Sonic into Sol Dimension.
Ian: With a supercharge. It wasn't just the warp topaz. It was warped topaz with Super Sonic charge to it. It's the same issue with Angel Island, multiplied by 10. Angel Island is hard to get to but at least it's on the same planet in the same dimension. Blaze's world is a lot harder to get to, and that's unfortunate because oh man, a whole other world to explore and expand and...build upon.
Kyle: Get Knuckles off that rock and Blaze out of that stupid dimension.
Ian: Watch, the island's gonna get beamed over to the Sol.
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>>539651256
Yes.
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>>539651524
>blaze's biggest shooters don't give a shit about blaze, they just want her to be sonic's cocksleeve
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If I was an amyfag I'd be annoyed at how the west fucks her character up.
https://youtu.be/PigAfyAqt6c?feature=shared
If this is any indication to how she's treated case by case
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>>539642810
lidded eyes get me going like nothing else, eyeshadow is hot
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Jeff Fowler is literally the only thing keeping the best parts of this franchise afloat whether you like it or not
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>>539642758
>Silver
>Dimension
I hope Blaze actually get vaulted
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>>539651203
For once, /sthg/ isn't hyperbolizing when they say that Archiefags were successful in gaslighting everyone that he was what the west wanted out of Sonic. Now we're stuck with him because he's cheap as dirt and knows that he'll never be heard from again if he leaves the franchise willingly.
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>>539652138
Pat Casey could always steal his job. Reminder that he doesn't write the jokes in the movies.
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>>539652245
The movies float in their own space in general. The most influence they've ever had in the games is making Boosts have electrical effects and forcing Sega to remember what SA2 was actually about.
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>>539652184
Because he feels like it.
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December-January is going to make this general unusable. On top of comic ocs getting in games, comic moving past frontiers, you know damn well Sonic Team is going to tease the 35th anniversary game at TGA
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Accidentally stepped on a roach just now. It's dead. I feel bad. Sonic.
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Damn, these guys get gayer and gayer each year
They've got a literal gay clown in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaL7mq5VYFc
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>>539651524
tldr
They're not stopping Blaze or her world, they just don't give a crap simply because she's not interesting apart from being a female potential love interest.
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>>539652536
We will have to make straight fangames then
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egg pawn is blatantly unfinished
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>>539652518
>it's dead
kek you think
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>>539652824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olL716SfcBo
kek
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>>539651524
> The thing with the Sol Dimension is that it's just really hard to get to. You can only get there via the sol emeralds and those are only held by Blaze so to bring anyone there you have to have a bit of a circumstance.
>There's Sonic Rush Adventure where it was vague how it happened, but I think ultimately it's kind of implied that the emeralds worked together, maybe?
If you admit there was an exception vague enough that there could be alternative means of access, why didn't you spring on that? Magic's a thing there if the Jeweled Scepter is any indication. Hell, you can make something else up - maybe the reason there's so many pirates there is that they have a network of Travel Rings for smuggling or something.
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>>539645879
>So what will YOU do in the case of the so called impossible occurring?
Jerk it to whisper porn I guess
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>>539645831
He kills that gun soldier in SA2.
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>>539653259
Amy would never say this
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What will the 35th anniversary game be like?
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>>539645831
Are genies sentient?
You need to kill at least one thousand of them to 100% Secret Rings
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>>539653259
Me watching the 4kidz version of sonic coming back. It's so much worse than the Japanese version of actually pisses me off how robbed we were
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>>539653409
why did she do it
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The only reason the prime characters have detailed models and rigs is because they're in the next mainline game and they're reused assets.
>NOOOO IT WILL RUIN THE CANON
Yes. They will ruin the canon.
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>>539653873
YAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNNNN
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>>539653520
a rip-off of tears of the kingdom
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>People thinking Blaze has more character then rule 34 fame yet her crossworlds song have moans more mature sounding then Rouge
This bitch is made for porn
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>>539654679
>i'm soup
Why?
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>>539654916
I'm at soup
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>>539655020
What STORE are you in?!
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Kit!
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>>539656095
I thought 9 was pretty cool desu. Like if one could only have the one prime character I would have been happy with 9
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>>539656095
I thought that Sonic Team would change Nine's design and remove his clothes for this game but I'm glad they kept them
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>>539656095
Nine-sama is so cool...
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>>539656039
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>>539656513
Nine-chan just needs a friend and to get his hole gaped
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>>539656095
>this is how cool Tails is if Sonic didn't groom him
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>>539656683
He needs love and understanding
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she's in
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>crossworlds runs at 60 on my old ass gtx 1650, 16gb of ram and a ryzen 5 3600
>runs at a nice temp, highest temp on cpu was 63 celsius and gpu 47
>all on low settings, 60 fps
>meanwhile marvel rivals toasted my pc at 75-80 celsius on the lowest settings
lol
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>>539657145
All Tailses are cool. And Tails adjacent characters
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>>539651524
Reminder that Ian basically said on his old forums that he doesn't find the game universe interesting and doesn't think it can carry a book. He voluntarily does not want to expand on anything even when given permission because he thinks the universe sucks.
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>>539656276
Why would they change his design?
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>>539657637
Idk to make him look more like the other male characters. It's just kinda weird since he's the only one with pants. But I like his design
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>>539657751
I always took that as being a sign of the forced conformity of the eggman empire. Everyone has to be fully dressed at all times. It's demonic. No skirts even! NO ASS
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>>539657315
she sold her body and got gangbanged multiple times just to get in
so did Whisper
now both of them are addicted to human cock, it was worth it
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>>539658281
But the new yolk versions of Knuckles and Big don't wear pants either so idk why they gave Nine pants specifically
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>>539658364
Probably to make him look cooler then
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Sonknux
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>>539658572
What I do every day
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>>539657345
>
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Espilver
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>>539649506
For what reason would Nakamura even be allowed to make a Silver game?
Sega still treats Silver like spin-off fodder
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>>539659646
She's dead and gone forever T oT
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SAGE 2025 starts in like two hours if anyone cares.
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Bare minimum were matching Shadow Generations PSN sales position in Japan. Right before Shadow Gens launched it was the 23 best selling game on the store, currently Crossworlds is the 23rd.
The deluxe edition is nowhere to be seen so likely no one is paying the to fee get in early
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Should Knuckles guard the chaos emeralds?
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>>539660231
Sorry WE don't play games here
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lol no
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>>539660489
How did SxSG do in Japan?
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Your fanfics need more wind
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Which gun should Abyss hold in the next art? Thinking of a silenced pistol, MP5, Uzi, Scorpion or a Famae saf
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>>539661037
I like that idea
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>>539660489
I wish it was easier to see Japanese versions of stores
Steams is drastically different than ours, they even have exclusive games.
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I love Shadria...
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>>539661703
I'm gonna Shadria all over the place
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I'm gonna shadria all over the place while pretending I'm not doing that
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>>539661761
Oh no, you're getting Shadria on my beautiful new floors
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>>539660807
We DO however post ASS
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Sonic, Blaze and Surge threesome
Amy on the cuck chair

Harmony.
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Maria, Rouge, and Amy threesome
Shadow on the cuck chair

Harmony.
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My boyfriend is obsessed with CHADvok...how do I fix him?
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Me, Cream, Sage threesome.
No cuck chair.
Harmony.
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I'm rewatching sonic X and i discovered the only way to enjoy any Sonic media is by turning off your brain.
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Sonic
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Silver, Sonic and Amy threesome
Blaze on the cuck chair

Harmony.
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My underage Girlfriend is obsessed with Tails... How do I correct her?
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Silver
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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Shadow
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>>539662558
did you know the earth rotates?
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Silver, Blaze and Ariem threesome.
Marine on the cuck chair.
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eggmoon is a good episode and i won't pretend that it's not
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>>539662558
It's almost like this series is for small children.
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What are Ariem's powers anyway?
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>>539661090
I hated how someone here recently said that "Sonic fans loved Cream."
No they fucking didn't, she was practically seen as one of the "Deadly Six" in the 2000s. Nobody liked her to the point that she was practically kicked out of the mainline series forever.
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>>539663020
>camera man dies
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Grooming Shadow
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>>539662718
You can't.

Some brains are just wired for that, the first time i saw tails as a child it went like:
>big ears
>heavy fur... fluffy cheek tufts... cute canine face... OMG THOSE BIG TAILS
And i shortcircuited into obsession, also he was the brave nerd fighter and that increased my interest as i could identify with him.
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>>539663228
She wouldn't say that
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>>539663221
The fans did like Cream.

>B-B-But!
I'm talking about the actual FANS, not the faggot critics.
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Metal
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>>539648917
But Marine wants Silver for herself
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>>539663378
the faggot critics run this series. she was dumped before 06 even launched
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Wait a minute, what do you mean with "underage girlfriend"?
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>>539663221
You can tell that a lot of fans weren't here for the 2000s where these were all popular tkakes

>Satam is the only good Sonic show. Sonic X is bad
>The 4kids cast are all horrible
>Amy is annoying and should stop harassing Sonic
>Chris Thorndyke is the worst character in fiction
>Sonic has too many friends now
>Sonic should be the main character of the games
>Sonic shouldn't talk
>The 3D Games are all bad
>Sonic shouldn't be serious
>Sonic shouldn't have a story
>SataM is the only good Sonic story
>Sonic stories stopped being good after SA2
>06 is promoting bestiality
>Sonic games are too edgy
>Big The Cat is a horrible design decision
>Amy shouldn't be able to run fast
>Shadow is the only entertaining part of 06
>Silver is a lame trunks ripoff
>Charmy needs to be vaulted right now
>Rouge is oversexualized
>Rouge is a whore
>Amy being twelve means Sonamy is worthless
>Jason Griffith stole Ryan Drummond's job
>Ryan Drummond stole Jaleel White's job
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>>539660231
I made a wishlist of all the games from the showcase I wanna play. I already played Toree Saturn and greatly recommend it if you're looking for 11 levels of really tight and fluid 3D momentum based platforming. I'm gonna be playing a lot more of the demos tonight with my brother when he comes over to visit.
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>>539663687
There were posters in my town about boycotting it due to the recast
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>>539663687
Most of these takes are retarded.
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>>539662968
This but instead of Maria having a dynamic with Shadow it's Sage
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If human x blobian is bestiality, why do people take issue with it when I ship Sonic with Pele, the Beloved Dog?
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>>539661090
>>539663221
I still find those "why does sonic drive a car? is he stupid" Crowd with crossworlds
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>>539663853
Pre Fadel and Sam Procrastinates Sonic was the best era of discourse
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>>539663221
I've looked over some Sonic Retro forum posts from around the time of Advance 2 and Heroes and the general consensus was that she was a Tails clone with a really annoying voice (Thanks Sonic X) which made people see her as an unnecessary character

You can even see the hate for her extended into the 2010s in the Sonic Stadium forum where it was announced that Big was going to be retired. Some posters wanted her to be next.

https://www.sonicstadium.org/forums/topic/12992-big-the-cat-is-officially-retired/
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>>539663687
>>Sonic has too many friends now
>>Sonic should be the main character of the games
>>The 3D Games are all bad
>>Sonic shouldn't be serious
>>Sonic shouldn't have a story
>>Sonic stories stopped being good after SA2
>>Sonic games are too edgy
>>Big The Cat is a horrible design decision
>>Amy shouldn't be able to run fast
>>Shadow is the only entertaining part of 06
>>Silver is a lame trunks ripoff
>>Jason Griffith stole Ryan Drummond's job
These are all somewhat true, or at least the sentiment behind them isn't misplaced.
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Dude seeing Amy now depresses me she's been so fucking assassinated you could NEVER get some shit like this in modern sonic.
https://youtu.be/kSzE0yJZUVk?feature=shared
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>>539663902
The current dumb take of the fandom is "The voice direction is why the voices are bad"
Fans just do this because they dont want to hurt the voice actors feelings. The Sonic games have had exactly one voice director for the last sixteen years. Just like the voice actors he is also given directions on what to do.
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I love suddenly most of the fanbase acted like they didn't participate in the bullshit now that Sonic is in a stable place
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>>539663995
I always took issue with making Elise and anthro to "fix" the beastiality problem since there's as much difference between different blobian species as there are between blobians and humans.
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>>539664127
>don't buy 06
>because of the voice actor change
only sonic fans could make a correct decision look retarded
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>>539658364
Pants = Evil
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>>539663378
>The fans did like Cream.
They did not. There was countless complaints and forum posts about why Cream was a dogshit addition to the franchise and needed to be removed entirely. So Sega listened to those demands by giving her a extremely minor role in Shadow 05 and then outright vanished from mainline except for Generations(Which was due to it being a anniversary game).
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>>539664241
>"The voice direction is why the voices are bad"
This one is true though.
https://files.catbox.moe/vz2fxf.mp4
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>>539664127
>>539664291
In retrospect the 06 hate was actually correct but for all the wrong reasons. It's a shitty and broken game sure but most of the complaining was because of Griffith.
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>>539662718
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>>539663687
Forgot a few
>Shadow's characterization should just copy Archie from 06 onward
>Shadow should have stayed dead after SA2
>Sonic 06 ruined Amy's character and made her obsessed with Sonic
>Sonic Battle ruined Amy's character and made her obsessed with Sonic
>Sonic is the literal ultimate life form
>Sonic R has bad music
>Sonic CD is the best Sonic game
>Sonic should never be in a car in cart racers
>The riders games are all bad because they don't play like normal racers
>Sonic shouldn't have human NPCs
>His name is ROBOTNIK not EGGMAN!!
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We need new VA talent. Roger is fucking 50 years old.
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>>539660231
Wasn't that last weekend?
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>>539664267
Well yes
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>>539662820
Peak
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>>539664623
There was the showcase, but that just showed short previews. I assume today is for going a lil more in depth.
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>>539664717
No panties.
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>>539664447
I mean Cream was still playable in Zero Gravity and Free Rides and the Secret Rings multiplayer. But yeah besides making cameo appearances she stopped being relevant after Rush
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>>539664447
I do not care for the opinions of insecure faggot children who feel threatened by cute things. Cream makes us cry and we don't know why!
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>>539664543
>>539664701
Ugh...
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>Big the Cat vaulted for years
>Cream the Rabbit vaulted for years
>Amy Rose totally retconned and rewritten into a different character
What went wrong with them?
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>>539664717
It really does make it look like she's wearing nothing and that's just shading man. At least it's not black spats I fucking hate black spats so much
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>>539664618
That's nothing compared to Kirk being a dinosaur

https://files.catbox.moe/r55bff.mp4
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>>539664701
Anyone who doesn't remember the "SAtam is the only good Sonic show" era of the internet while talking about how they miss the shitty 2000s is fucking lying. The 2000s version of this fanbase was WORSE and I mean WORSE than the current era of people who clutch pearls when you draw Amy with a fat ass
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>>539664267
>now that Sonic is in a stable place
I didnt know a shitty tech demo with pop in, a mobile game tied to a shitty service no one uses, 2 hours of new content on a 14 year old game and overpriced Kartslop meant we were fucking stable. My mistake.
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>>539664701
Prepare for trouble and make it double
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>>539664991
The 2000s Sonic fandom was literally where Chris Chan and Richmunk have their origins as lolcows and it directly led to 2010s Sonic.

The 2020s fandom has literally NOTHING in comparison. It's all movie zoomers and bitter 2000s fanboys.
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>>539664981
What's more is Kirk uses the same voice he does for Shadow as he does for lik 30 other anime characters. He's fucking lazy.
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>>539665105
Yeah I could never go back to millenials ruling this fandom with an iron fist
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>>539665105
This sadly.
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>>539664583
>Sonic CD is the best Sonic game
Not true, CD was always considered too experimental and inferior to the Genesis games. If anything this idea that CD is better than 3&K or whatever has been going up recently
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>>539663687
>True
>Cream sounded terrible. the rest were fine
>True
>True
>As long as they serve a purpose in the narrative they are alright
>True? wasn't that always true?
>False
>False
>False
>False
>False. but SatAM is great
>True. Shth and Rush plots are good. 06 is le potential but done horribly (as a story AND a game)
>True lol
>False. they are not edgy enough
>False
>True
>True
>Mixed opinions
>the whole chaotix are useless bro.
>True
>False
>True
>idk man
>idk man. I don't think Jaleel wanted to continue working on Sonic

>>539664583
>False? there's room to grow but I think Archie Shadow is too whacky to be Shadow
>False
>What?
>What?
>Idk
>False
>False
>True
>False
>False
>TRUE!!!!

>t. late 20s zoomer
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>Arlo reviews Sonic movie 2
>Complains that it isn't like Satam for less than 5 seconds
>Gets dogpiled by zoomers so hard that he has to make an apology video explaining that he knows humans are part of Sonic he just doesn't like how they are in the movies
This is unironically an improvement
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>>539665163
Bryce Papenbrook only has one voice.
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>>539665031
we have 7 playable characters that aren't anchored to shitty, half-baked genre shifts.
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>>539665325
>Arlo
He cool for the most part he does have his annoying moments though
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>>539664991
Sonic in the 2000s
>Classic fans balkanized in response to the Adventure games
>JP vs US tensions at all time high due to Sonic X
>Sonic OCs, shipping, AMVs and cringe fanfics EVERYWHERE

And then after the wombo combo of Shad05, 06 and Unleashed
>SHADOW IS THE WORST CHARACTER EVER AND SHOULD HAVE STAYED DEAD !!!!!!!!!1111111
>ALL THE CHARACTERS BESIDES SONIC, TAILS, KNUCKLES AND EGGMAN NEED TO GO
>SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD LOLOLOLOLL ROFLCOPTER
>LOL SONIC KISSED A HUMAN FEMALE BESTIALITY XD
>JASON GRIFFITH NEEDS TO FUCKING GO
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>>539665325
He also said SA2 is mid and the only good part of the game is the Chao Garden. Which isn't an unpopular opinion but still, kinda weird how a side thing overshadows the main game to a lot of people
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>>539665359
So does Roger. But at least Roger kind of puts a twist on it sometimes. Like for Batman he does his voice but deep, or Tomas feom regular show, which is his voice but sometimes with a Russian Accent
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>>539665325
People are finally realizing that most of these reviews from youtubers are pretty shit
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My god... police guns in sonic x have the same sound of laser shots, the fuck garbage they made me watch as kid? Also the animation is terrible (anime slop), and compared to the original version the censorship is unbearable.

I can't watch this, i refuse to watch it, i need to wash my eyes with some old cartoon network shit now.
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>>539665608
>police guns in sonic x have the same sound of laser shots
Every cartoon in the 90's and 2000's did this. Also are you watching sub or dub?
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Rouge tries to arrest Eggman in Sonic X can we unpack that
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>>539665723
"fans"
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>>539665723
Big oof let's not even go there please
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>>539665723
This graphic is completely inaccurate and people only ever believed it because it was well put together. When you actually read it and compare it to the games that came out before Unleashed it makes no fucking sense.
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>>539665573
too bad the chucklefucks at sega took them seriously
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>>539665723
Arin Hanson was once brand ambassador of this franchise. That should tell you how little SEGA cared after a point. They still dont, but now they pretend to. And that somehow worked.
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Sonic in 2026 to 2027 is going to be where all the shit goes down
>35th anniversary + 20 years since 06
>IDW going into post Frontiers era and T&W are undeniably canon
>Movie 4 shilling will mean they'll do another crossover promo with Paramount

We are not ready for all the imminent drama at all.
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>>539664165
Amytards act like they're the biggest victim in this franchise istg
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>>539665703
my shitty euro dub, taken from the 4kids! version
>Every cartoon in the 90's and 2000's did this.
man, i'm watching batman TAS and i don't think so, but if true then i lived in a lie all this time
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>>539665537
>>ALL THE CHARACTERS BESIDES SONIC, TAILS, KNUCKLES AND EGGMAN NEED TO GO
Amy's crush on Sonic saved her ass. she got in unleashed but knuckles and shadow didn't because she was easier to write for kek
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>>539665941
The movie is the only thing Im looking forward to because they already said it'll be Frontiers 2. And I hated the first one. I have to wait 2 more years until anything remotely good
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Fang is
>Classic Rouge
>Classic Shadow
>Classic Blaze
>Classic Jet
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>>539666095
Blaze is Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Amy in a package
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Most people who hate sonic X watched the censored 4kids version and got traumatized forever or saw satAM and got poisoned forever by OC they believed is real. I call this "Dobson syndrome" named after famed autist Andrew Dobson who believed Nintendo characters havent been correctly depicted by Nintendo for the last 30 years because his first interaction with them was American versions of their media
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>>539666045
Unleashed Amy felt like an apology for Elise imo. She doesn't even do anything in that game besides the wierd romance subplot.
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>>539665723
>Gameplay looks to be the same old
Same old what? I thought the problem was the gameplay kept changing due to weird gimmicks?
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>>539666017
The sheer irony to post Silver while saying that is funny enough to get a pass.
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>>539666095
No, Fang is Fang
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>>539665723
I hate that the newer fans would immediately see this for the clap that it is
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>>539666019
Not that anon, but It's literally unfair to compare ANY show to Batman the animated series man in that same era. No one was moving like Batman.
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>>539665858
i first realized i hated flynn when he tried to make "the sonic cycle" a thing in-universe
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>>539666181
Or maybe they don't like the human OCs and poor animation quality. And all the boring filler
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>>539665325
Satam is unironically better than whatever soulles hollywood garbo Fowler shits out
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>>539664450
Bryce is still a poor fit for Silver even with better direction. I think he was chosen specifically with the American take on Silver in mind but now things are going in the JP direction for the character and just doesn't fit.
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>>539665723
>>539665863
This graph was also likely made as follow-up to the "Zelda cycle" which was equally revisionist.
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>>539666260
>>539666328
Ian Flynn seems to be one of the few things new and old fans alike bitch about now
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>>539665941
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>>539666343
Maybe you're right. I'll watch satAM in its entirety and form an opinion on which is a better show. See you guys in a week!
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>>539666412
Average user ratings for SatAM is 82, while movie 3 is at 95, try again.
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>>539666412
SatAM was a Power Rangers victim and then Disney killed that show.

Meanwhile Sonic X was keeping up with Pokémon and Yugioh back in the 2000s and the movies routinely shit all over DC and now they shit on Disney
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>>539666428
*Bryce just doesn't fit
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>>539665723
Now i need LSMark drawn as Pain lol
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>>539666151
Blaze is Silver's concubine
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>>539665941
I'm really curious to see what will be the tie in game for movie 4
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>>539666596
Movies really do feel like an X reimagining to a degree so I'm hopeful that Amy won't suck ass. I liked how she was in X
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>>539666309
I'm not comparing, i'm just watching it as a relief so it was the onlu example in my mind. But seriously, was it too much to not use the same sfx of laser shots for guns as well?
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>>539666606
I thought SatAM was cancelled by Sega because DiC were having an illegal side hustle with the animation cels
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>>539666606
>the movies routinely shit all over DC
What?
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>>539666195
How is that irony? Silver was, and still is, the biggest victim of this shitty franchise. He tried calling you out by saying Amy fans act like they have it the worst.
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>>539666606
Pokemon and Sonic going to Cartoon Network was for the best
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>>539666663
He straight up just stopped doing Sonic shit on SplashDash like a year ago. All the sonic tubers I follow have fucking stopped with this franchise, and I should too.
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>>539663687
>Charmy needs to be vaulted right now
I agree. Preferably in Jewel's vault.
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>>539666707
2000s Amy would think Movie Sonic is a loser and would rather fuck Tom
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>>539666803
Silver sucks though so it's justified

>>539666747
Yeah that's the actual reason. The power rangers stuff is a myth as far as we know
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>>539666663
Pain from Naruto?
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>>539666827
What the fuck, no he didnt. I just stopped getting notifications. Sorry, I seem to be stupid
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>>539666827
Good Sonic videos are so good now
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>>539666707
The movie people are MAJOR Sonic X fanboys
>Sonic saying Gotta Go Fast came from X
>Knuckles vs Sonic in Movie 2 ripped off X's fight
>Shadow raping Team Sonic came from Sonic X

Combine that with Paramount being buckbroken by Trump and their merger to dump all DEI shit and you're getting Movienic's new BPD hammer swinging gf.
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>>539666725
Well 4kids has stupid ass censorship. I don't remember laser sounds in the Japanese version but it's been a while since I saw it. Japan doesn't seem shy for gun sounds at that time period so I don't know why they would have it there, it's usually the sharp pew sound effect that kinda sounds like a firecracker in a tight metal tube.
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>>539666682
Blaze is Silver's beard
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>>539666707
>I'm hopeful that Amy won't suck
Movie Amy will be transgender-coded and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>539666956
Yes
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>>539667126
This
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>>539666991
My god if 4kids ruined it.
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>>539667213
I love rectally sourced information.
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>>539665941
>Movie Amy will be the nail in the coffin that finally ends this franchise for good
I'm so proud
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One hard pill to swallow for the entire fandom is that satamfags like Richmunk actually like SA2 and Shadow because that game's portrayal of Sonic and overall tone is the closest to Satam out of any available Sonic game.
The irony is that it's the nexus of everything they hate about Sonic, and Satam is the birthplace of everything Adventure fans would hate about western Sonic media.
If you only knew Sonic from Satam, none of his behavior would stick out to you as OOC in SA2 (The opposite is obviously not true, Satam Sonic does very many things that would be considered OOC) So Satamfags give it a pass.
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>>539666987
I like the x (Japan) version of Amy rose what can I say? I just got done with adventure and she felt way too passive. The compassion was there but yeesh Amy be a little more assertive you have a big ass hammer.
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>>539666931
>Silver sucks though so it's justified
Yeah, duh. That’s why they have it the worst. Amyfags should be grateful for whatever Sega is feeding them
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>>539667347
That's why Shadally is endgame
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>>539667232
>If
>4kids
Name one 4kids localization they DIDNT fuck up. As far as I know dubbed sonic only exists in that one version and they outright cut out scenes from the anime it's really stupid.
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>>539667347
>Maekawa ruined Sonic's character so badly that he's inline with US Sonic
Shadow once again proves he's where everything with Sonic went wrong. Even today Sonic has to be the bubbly idiot while he gets to be cool.
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>>539666181
I guess this is true of *most* people who hate X but there is no shortage of people who hate the series because of what it does differently from the games.
It's like how you similarly can't pin all IDW hate on Archiefags. At this point in time most of it comes from game fans.
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>>539667387
She's better in SA2, but only barely. She breaks sonic out of one of the most secure prisons in canon, based on Alcatraz. She only gets cornered when Eggman follows her. She teases Sonic about marrying him, but quickly just helps him regardless. She's a valuable member of the team in SA2 and a lot of people downplay her role. Especially when she had to talk down Shadow, she was the only person that could do it. (And they ruined that moment in Sonic X too hahaha)
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>>539667510
Ah yes, they also modified yu gi oh and naruto
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>>539667220
I will protect Sonic at all cost he can't go back to all that shit
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>>539667624
Sonic did feel very annoyingly stupid in prime.
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>>539667624
I promise you I can find a classicfag video essay where the uploader complains that SA2 turned Sonic into Satam Sonic

Give me five minutes
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>>539667779
AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>539667287
She really feels like the character who will drag Sonic into culture war bullshit for decades. If you think Peach was bad, you haven't seen nothing yet especially with how fucking jumpy Krack made the Sonic fandom
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>>539667779
>non canon one shot of a non canon side game
Wew. I shan't
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>>539666151
Almost like they should just banish all the old characters to the Classic Dimension and have Modern games only star Blaze and Shadow.
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>>539666987
>The movie people are MAJOR Sonic X fanboys
>It's just generic examples that you'd be forgiven for forgetting were started with X
Sonic vs Knuckles fight was from the game. The Sonic vs Shadow fight was from SA2/rehash of Movie 2. "Gotta Go Fast" is lazy fanservice. When they have characters that are clearly supposed to be decoe and bocoe, topaz, or chris then you can start sperging.
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>>539665410
I always felt that Arlo was/is an disingenuous faggot whose taste are either normie friendly and/or fucking trash.
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>>539667856
I was so fucking mad about peaches man she's ALWAYS SCOWLING or being a catty bitch for no reason. She's like a really shitty parody on what a "cool girl" is supposed to be but she's not SUPPOSED to be cool, she's SUPPOSED TO BE CUTE. FUCKING BITCH
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How did Sonic survive the 90s while many other platformer mascots didn't? Is it because of the cartoon?
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>>539665941
If Shadow Gens is any sign of what to expect I'm extremely hyped for the next mainline game.
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>>539668003
>decoe and bocoe
Folded into Agent Stone
>Topaz
Folded into Rockwell
>Chris
Lol he was NEVER EVER coming back as a character. Tom totally replaced him and Sonic had to absorb his latent traits.
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>>539668003
>"Gotta Go Fast" is lazy fanservice.
Frontiers makes constant references to other games and people called that one a step in rhe right direction. References, shitty, lazy, or otherwise, is exactly what the normies love and clap to.
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>>539668070
Unironically carried by autism.
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>>539668070
Wasn't sonic famous like the looney toons for a brief moment in the america's zeitgeist?
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>>539667683
He would hate Cosmo kek
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>>539668097
It isn't, Shadow Generations was made by the B-team with the new talent. You'll need to wait for the next next game to get them back.
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>>539668262
There was a study conducted in 1993 I think that said Sonic was as recognizable as Mickey in the USA or something
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>>539668262
He had a Macy day parade balloon so I'd say yeah. He still might actually.
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just saying shit lol
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>>539668262
Back in the Genesis days, yeah. While revisionists try tell you that we never beat Mario, we drove a wedge in market dominance allowing others to flourish. lt was only after SoJ's many terrible decisions, did we go under.
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>>539668043
This but the whole puppet persona helps gloss over that
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>>539668354
Super interesting, i still have pic related saved.

Then sonic imploded like it was nothing?
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I wish Amy would stop shaving off her back spike. I miss it
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>>539668124
>Folded into Agent Stone
Stone is Grimer from StC
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>>539668070
Sonic games used to be good, if you can believe it.
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>>539668565
Not really. Sonic became the butt of the joke on the internet as it was exploding into popularity, and it was being poisoned in the wider normiesphere by having weird fans who kept drawing everyone with big ass stinky feet and general loud autism. Everyone calls chrischan the original lolcow but the fact was that Sonic was always the original lolcow fandom. It's only recently started recovering.
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>>539668285
>He would hate Cosmo kek

Talking Plants want to turn him into a power source oh yeah
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>>539668769
>Sonic was always the original lolcow fandom. It's only recently started recovering.
this franchise had to reach peak lolcow before it started to recover
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>>539668769
Well, perhaps it's more sega's fault than a bunch of losers on the internet.
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>>539667624
https://youtu.be/IHPcCgNcAuE?si=6Xk6jGJMeYKDzWxY&t=1756
https://youtu.be/PqNm61Tw8cw?si=JoiSxZmRj_NA_ub5&t=665
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>>539668567
Shaving off a quill sounds painful
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>>539668285
Would Jura like Sonic idw?
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>>539669087
sega has been a lolcow corporation, from the 32x to getting scammed by gearbox
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>Hardcore classicfags just see windnic as an annoying attempt to adapt satamnic
oh thats just funny
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>>539669087
It's actually a (not even) combination of multiple parties acting in some kind of cosmic retardation autism bomb. Sega, for some reason, didn't really give all too much of a fuck what the fat gaijin were doing with Sonic, because he was popular and that was good enough clearly they were doing something right. This unregulated freedom allowed certain parties to do all kinds of fucked up stuff with the sonic franchise, which in turn did all kinds of fucked up stuff to the fan base, and then this fucked up fan base got onto the Internet and started doing all kinds of fucked up stuff and everyone was like "lol what the fuck Is happening man" and Sega was like "AAAAAHHHH WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE AMERICANS DOING?! HE DID *WHAT* WITH HIS MOM?!" and some stuff happened and now Sega is paying closer attention and, you know, doing more than shitting out mediocre games to a schizophrenically divided fanbase that each like a different version of sonic.
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>>539669752
He's right tho
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>>539669279
I watched the Sunshine Feeler's video in the past and he's mostly correct but I don't like how he portrays any positive view of SA2 or Shadow as a result of nostalgia, it feels very dismissing and ignorant. Also his complaints about Shadow's backstory are just weird.

Haven't watched Telekinestic Man's video but I don't care because he's just another pretentious game design YouTuber
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>>539669324
Yes actually he would especially be drawn to characters like Whisper and Surge
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>>539669895
I think Feeler's aware enough of his own biases since he does drag the video to a halt to explain that he is aware of the "You just don't understand [character]" talking point and dissects it and his biases before moving on.
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>>539668769
People didn't start shitting on sonic until 06, which is on Sega for making shit to mediocre games for almost two decades now. They know how to fix it, but making a game as content rich as sonic adventure is too much effort these days.
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>>539666095
Classic Jet is Speedy.
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>>539638563
>>539639237
>https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-on-ai-therell-always-be-a-human-touch-in-how-we-make-our-games/
>https://nintendoeverything.com/shigeru-miyamoto-comments-on-ai-says-nintendo-would-rather-go-in-a-different-direction/
>https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-comments-on-generative-ai/
All three of these sources are against Ai when you actually read it. You're the one filling in their blanks to be pro ai.
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>>539670248
Its even worse than that. Sonic fans have show that they will buy and defend almost anything. So what incentive is there for them to try? If it's a guaranteed success, why would they not just, say, funnel all of the extra time and budget into making Yakuza better, the game series they obviously would much rather focus on?
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I must be old. I could have sworn "Shadow's presence turns Sonic into Satamnic" was a popular claim but I guess not. I feel like Shadow 2005 makes this blatant.
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>>539670474
Thats also true. Yakuza definitively seems to be where all their passion is now. I have heard people describe sonic as the punishment/learning franchise for Sega devs now, and I believe it.
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>>539644191
vector's a wigger
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>>539670771
Vectors an unc and I won't hear anything else.
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>>539670692
This makes perfect sense when you consider that very tactic was used on DreamWorks animators, if you could do Prince of Egypt, you were sent to work on Shrek. That's almost 100% true for SEGA I bet, as well. Think about it. They have to restart development every time and its always amateur work. All the people good at theizr job go to a game series that actually sells in Japan.
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>>539670692
>sonic as the punishment/learning franchise for Sega devs
That's exactly what Dreamworks did with Shrek before it became a cashcow
Suddenly, all that weird crossover art makes perfect sense
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>>539670953
If you *couldn't* work on Prince of Egypt, you were sent to Shrek
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>>539669324
Whether he does or not it been stated that no one should have discussion with him he'll kill you over a shit opinion without a second thought
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>https://sonicfangameshq.com/forums/showcase/sonic-rush-rerun.2710/
>Web server is down
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>>539671134
Asking him if Sonic is the wind anyway
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Wind
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>>539671218
>Re-Rush
>Rush 3D
>Rush Re-Run
One of these fucking games HAS to get past 2 levels. I don't care which it is anymore
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>>539670771
>>539670879
Either way he can't handle allat. Vanilla acts all nice and motherly but she's definitely a ball drainer. TAG ME IN VEC I GOT YOU
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>>539671353
I am just now realizing Rerush and Rerun are two seperate projects.
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>>539671440
Kek. Shows how beloved Rush is as a series and how much SEGA hates the good titles for some reason.
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>>539671353
I watched one of the Rerun devs working on Water Palace last year so there's hope for that at least.
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On Wplace there’s an island in Antarctica called “Tail Island” and all of the artwork is just Tails.

I added in the official Tail’s asshole sprite
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>>539671006
To be fair I think prince of egypt is still better than the shrek films, even 2. That movie feels like you are watching a piece of art.
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>>539668567
...I don't think I was even aware of it until now. Some Classic superfan I am. It really comes OUT of the back of her clothes, huh?
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>>539671659
Rush 3D's last update was also a year ago. No one ever fucking finishes these. Thats why Im hoping one of em will
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Shadowlin is the king of "This ship only works in the fandom as long as these two are prevented from interacting officially"
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>>539671718
Why all the eggs
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>>539671718
Stopped caring about Wplace once people began using bots.
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>>539671301
...
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>>539671887
Tailsfags are usually trannies. Eggs represent Trans people that haven't "come out of their shell" yet.
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>>539671786
Yeah it's really cute. I call it her shark fin because unlike shadow and sonic she only has the one.
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>>539671718
Pic related

>>539671887
>>539671948
The island right next to it is “Egg island”
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>>539671589
It shows rushfags don't have the attention span to stick to one project and get it done
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>>539666095
Fang was the original, all these characters leeched traits from him.
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>>539671943
ONI-CHAN HELP ME!
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Why is Tangle in the comic? She is not in the game
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>>539672274
That's not exclusive to rush fags tho. 3D fangames barely, if ever get more than the 1 stage and wire room. Look at shit like Utopia, which got one level done and fucking quit.
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>>539671718
Neat, Thanks for the information fellow Tailsbro!
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>>539672449
Because they want her to be in it.
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>>539669279
The sunshine video is incredibly well done. Most videos from fags that don't like Shadow don't really give it nearly that much thought.
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>>539672274
>>539671440
Rerush doesn't have anything to do with Rush.
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>>539672294
Why didn't Tails use his kitsune powers to bring his love interest back to life like she did?
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>people say Silver was much better in Archie
>Go back and look at his entire arc

>Silver comes back from the future
>"THERE'S A TRAITOR IN THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS!"
>no there isn't
>Silver goes back to the future
>20 issues later
>Silver comes back from the future
>"THERE'S A TRAITOR IN THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS!"

I...think I prefer IDW Silver....
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>>539672768
It points out something I only really noticed recently now that Shadow is written well again, which is that Shadow is way more in line with Classic Sonic's personality than Modern Sonic is.
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>>539672707
Yes Sega quality control sucks.
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>>539672853
Good thing she's oblivious to his feelings for tho
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>>539673056
You'll find a lot of the accolades for Archie are simply because things were so shit, any focus was better than what they had by the time 160 was around. People didnt yet see the cracks in Ian's stories until he had a fresh start.
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SAGE 2025 IS HAPPENING TODAY.
DO ANY OF YOU CARE?
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>>539673056
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Most Sonic media is loved for nostalgia. Satam and Sonic X are not very good when you compare them directly with other, similar media from their own time aimed at the same target audience (Gargoyles, Pokemon). If you did not grow up with it, it's safe to say you won't like it. The movies are some of the only content to buck this trend as their entire reception in the fandom comes from people who are already adults.
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>>539673398
I replied to you earlier, and you ignored my talking points. Dont cry now.
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>>539671589
>Beloved as a series
>not even there fags want to do anything progressive
It's the music bro, it got all of you mindraped.
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>>539673056
There was a traitor in the freedom fighters, it was Sally. The only reason he didn't catch her is because Sally being responsible for the destruction of the world is a silly notion. He ultimately ends up defeating her right as the super genesis wave happens.
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>>539673398
Man I used to follow SAGE religiously in the 2000s...now I have so many games to play I don't have time to play all the demos.
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>>539673539
>>539672496
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>>539673056
Yeah he was worse in Archie. They used him to do that traitor thing again in IDW with Mimic/Duo and you see how fucking trash that was.
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>>539672496
Utopia was an autistic physics wankfest. No one in their right mind would try to make more levels on that scale
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>>539673714
>They used him to do that traitor thing again in IDW with Mimic/Duo and you see how fucking trash that was.
How did Evan end up making the EXACT SAME mistake Ian did?
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>>539673781
Okay, but that's exactly what I want, tho. I want momentum based 3d platforming. I fucking hate boost.
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>>539673260
Tangle the Lemur from the Sonic series
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STEAL THEIR SOULS
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>>539673056
I simply like that they gave him stories, like being a secret agent, fighting a deity and having a team and a nemesis, they made him entertaining to read in archie, In IDW he's just...so boring, that goes with everyone since they're just pandering and you can replace the characters and the story would still work.
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https://youtu.be/qtuQx609JTA?si=95wYYtF-x2zLDhbY
good video with poor editing
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>>539673398
I'm too busy sorry
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>>539673781
Sonic SHOULD be autistic physics based platforming, actually
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>>539673829
All of IDW has been shitty retreads of Archie. Scourge and Surge are the same fucking character. The only reason they treat Surge like a real threat is because shes female.
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>>539673398
Anon I just woke up.
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>>539673461
Pokemon was NOT a good anime bro. Pomemania had kids in a choke hold but the anime itself taken by itself was not very good outside a handful of episodes. Tons of filler, reused animations, in fact most episodes outside of gym centric ones are entirely shippable but that was the consequence of Japanese animation in general at the time. Animes not based on an original manga story tended to be very mid. Digimon first season clears pokemon easily but it didn't have the manic tie in boost that Pokemon had so it floundered and died. Gargoyles was cool though I miss that era of western animation
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>>539673119
>shadamy is just amy realizing the sonic she actually fell in love with has a new name
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>>539673461
Xfags still try to claim their show is "canon" or sonic team's vision despite having little evidence that anyone from sonic team actually worked on it versus just signing off on it. Every character was ooc. Sonic, knuckles, rouge, shadow, eggman, it was just all over the place.
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>>539673537
I have not been here in 2 days ma'am.
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>>539674102
It's 12pm!!!
LAZY
>in b4 muh time zone
You got up after the sun was already up
Sonic would be ashamed
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>>539673942
Shang Tsung in season pass 2 confirmed?!
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>>539673829
The minute I read the synopsis for that issue, I was dreading the day it was coming out. It was just the same shit in a different flavor. Very unnecessary plot point.
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>>539674107
Using Digimon as an example changes my argument from "Here is a more successful example from something around the same time" to "Here is something that completely obliterates Sonic X" anon
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>>539674218
Meh. I'm going back to sleep.
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>>539673942
>>539642067
On it
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I genuinely don't see a quality difference from the coveted Sonic X Season 3 and Satam.
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They added the Spindash to Dream Team.

https://youtu.be/hX9daejGFXA?si=Yhn9Anjj6LiM9ide

Rouge and Amy lookin fine here.
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>>539674772
Punisher in a speedo >
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>>539674429
I just mean that Sonic X isn't that bad compared to other animes of around that time, quality wise. Not everyone can be fucking... inuyashua or magical girl doremi. You're gunna have your japslop too. I watched sonic X like last year and its about what I expected for the time. I imagine satAM will be the same when i get around to it. A big fat "Yeah its alright. I really liked this or that episode but otherwise its just okay"
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>>539674107
The first pokemon movie was great
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>>539673398
Literally what the fuck is a Sage?
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>>539674772
Did they say anything about it leaving Apple Arcade?
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>>539675002
Not wrong at all. Satam is very average. It's got cute ideas, heartwarming moments, but nothing that makes it some unforgettable masterpiece like people once portrayed it as. Godawful action honestly.

Though, to be fair, the action in every Sonic show has been so bad that even the fucking Knuckles show mogs them.
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>>539675209
Sonic and Games Expo. It's a indie game jam of what was once Sonic-like fangames, but uh, Pizza Tower is the current fad, so....
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>>539675209
Sonic Amateur Games Expo

It's a Sonic fangame/hack event. There's also some original soniclike games
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>>539674772
They're really good at killing hype/anticipation for side games. Dream Team didn't deserve to get cucked the way it did.
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>>539675158
The first pokemon movie is fantastic, but the anime itself was very mid. It has like 10 great episodes out of 52. First episode, Gym battle with brock, the episode with the lightning stone and Pikachu, the one where ash fucking DIES, meowths backstory, freeing butterfly, Charizard pushing magmars shit in, the physic gym (pure kino) uhh fuck... i liked the one where they make a movie for some reason, and uhhh.. duhh... i dunno man, some other one i can't- OH THE RACE. The race was cool with ponyta.
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>>539675542
It boggles my mind that Dream Team is as good at it is, but because it's tied to Apple Arcade, no one fucking plays it.
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>>539674772
Sega is not beating the douge allegations
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>>539675158
I was a pokeshipper when I was 13 so I thought Pokemon 2000 was the greatest movie ever. Then I learned what a dub was.
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>>539675831
I dont know why. But you talking about shipping reminded me of the old Sonic X days on YouTube is saw this SonAmy AMV of the Sonic Battle arc and learning 4kids took out an entire season because they didn't want to bother.
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>>539676273
I get it man
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I can't wait for people to pretend to like Crossworlds for a few days before fucking dropping the game.
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>>539675785
Fr
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>>539674691
Zeena and I Frozen Factory Act 2'ing right after
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>>539676596
You don't think the hype for SpongeBob kart, ft. sonic is sincere?
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>>539676928
It's sad knowing we'll never get 90s western sonic back.
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>>539676596
It'll be so funny when they realized all of the hype for crossworlds are just localized Twitter echo chamber
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>>539665941
>Frontiers era and T&W are undeniably canon
Anon...i
But for real man, we already know sega already said no, and gay characters can only be created if they have that in mind from the begining their concept only.
We know too that only aplies to secondary and tertiary characters, so tangle and whisper are even double denied for being main characters.
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>>539676596
>>539677040
Okay, see you on the track bro
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>>539676596
I got 24 hours out of it during the ONT and I think that's all I really need. I want to play it again but not for like $90
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>>539676995
I think it's likely genuine to a few. But Kartslop historically doesn't do well for Sonic, and man does this one look generic.

>>539677040
Honestly the fact it keeps happening to SEGA should make them wake up, but they've never been known for making good decisions.
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>>539667779
At this point I'm sure tangle and whisper are gonna be there along with surge. Besides the obvious car/extreme gear designs.
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>>539674581
Tails would be ashamed
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>>539675725
Yeah. And then the whole thing with Rumble and even Blitz now is stupid. These are definitely games good enough to pick up and play anywhere you want but they keep shooting themselves in the foot for whatever reason.
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>>539677140
Pfft, not unless you're playing Sonic Riders Future.

>>539677159
I couldn't even bother to download the free demo. I have no interest when they made the Extreme Gear control exactly like the Karts. Additionally theres no rail grinding so...
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>>539677040
I dont know, sonikart is topping on nintendos Eshop right now, i have high hopes this game will crack a mill opening week and hit around 5-10 mill copies sold total, expecially with all the bummed out mario karters seemingly switching over to check it out.
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>>539677446
I get the target demo is 6-12, but recently it feels like SEGA is trying to exclusively market to that target demo instead of everyone.
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Blaze and Silver's team name is Team Dimensions
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>>539675785
delusional shipper
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>>539677250
Surge is a stretch but T&W is a funny situation regardless if they get in or not.
>>539677467
>not unless you're playing
Sure man, see you on the track
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>>539676959
>huh?

Oh...
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>>539677504
>5-10 mill copies sold total
Bro, Frontiers couldn't even break 5 mil. Lower your expectations.

>>539677715
Okay but you won't tho.
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>>539677621
If the Sonic channel page is any indication, they'll add Ariem to Team Dimensions.
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>>539677621
>not Team Light
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>>539677782
>but you won't tho
Yeah, you'll be too far behind to be in my rear view bro, I get it. Same for Riders.
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>>539677621
Holy shit man I really couldn't give a shit about those two
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Ian wrote CrossWorlds??? I had no idea!
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>>539677782
Frontiers was getting actively clowned on for looking like "SEGA HIRE THIS MAN" tier unreal engine slop. It couldn't recover from that, also its big and mostly empty and boring and theres like five fucking levels man its not a fun game. And it ran like ASS
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>>539678023
Thats true enough. I can't place in a race I don't participate in.
>Same for Riders.
Youre trying to bait me, but I really don't care. Id rather be lapped in a game I love than win a game I hate. I have no interest in Crosslop.
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>>539645585
Illumina doesn't give her vacation days
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Maekawa said the third member of Team Dimensions is Sticks
>He made a mistake, he really meant Marine
Maekawa does not make mistakes!
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It's weird Ariem is on Sonic Channel but not CrossWorlds.
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>>539678197
>Id rather be lapped in a game I love
Do you enjoy TE, perchance?
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>>539676596
No matter if the game is good or bad, or even amazing and outstanding, this place is gonna shit on it and say is the worst game ever.
Mania, Frontiers and superstars were fine, but people here already treats frontiers like shit, just because flynn is implicated.
Unpopular but Sonic forces is overhated too it was just mid low.
Is surprising even normalfags are exoted for crossworlds but is welcomed.
Even when thing actually looks good for us, someone is gonna bitch and weep like a baby anyway.
This has been like this since early 2000's when adventure redesigned everything. Characters and gameplay.
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>>539678168
No. You dont get to play revisionist now. People called that game a step in the right direction and when people like BlazeHedgehog called it trash he got hated on. I have people defending that game all the fucking time. Every time I trash the game Ive had people defending it. You cant tell me that it was actually trash this whole time after I was I the frontlines saying it's fucking awful.
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>>539678410
I do, very much. Hardly play the online because I play it locally with my friends, but would be willing to later today if youre interested. Im not good at the game, mind you, but I very much enjoy playing it all the same.
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>>539678378
Until Silver and Blaze get their own Omega equivalent, stuff like Ariem and Sticks are just placeholders
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>>539678136
Well, you also gotta include the Lore Team and Hit Detection.

https://www.hitdetection.com/

I doubt its a South Park situation where there's a group of writers who pitch ideas only for Trey Parker to do all the writing afterwards.
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>>539677621
Watch as nothing is coming from this what so ever
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>>539678445
Sorry man I wasn't here for that, I would have backed you up. Frontiers was big and empty and boring. It had some, small handful, of cool ideas, the cyber world looked really cool, I like sage a lot and i think eggman and her are cute, but literally everything else about the game was so fucking unbalievably mid, i didnt even 100% it, i could not be assed. One and doned it and moved on.
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>>539678419
>this place is gonna shit on it and say is the worst game ever.
They'd be right. Its a cashgrab karslop game.
>Frontiers and superstars were fine,
I should stop reading here, but Ill hear you out.
>Unpopular but Sonic forces is overhated
Okay, now Im done reading
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>>539678676
>My girl Sticks is coming back

Please tell me you're not joking.
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>>539678393
Wasn't that stupid chinchilla thing from Warewolf game on there? I wouldn't want his ass in the game either. I think its fine for characters to be confined to their game if they're intended to be a one off appearance
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>>539678606
I'll do time trials with you on any track if you ever feel like it. I don't mind taking breaks from crossslop for that.
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The only fitting Silver and Blaze third member is some kinda power type Iblis stand they both share.
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>>539678676
Here you go
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Heroes did everlasting damage to the franchise.
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>>539678960
It's Mephiles. They're bringing him back
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>>539674772
What is the point of the spin dash in a game that constantly gives you boost?
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>>539678894
his name is Chip
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amy in black spats is funny
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So... why won't be getting more Sonic characters in Crossworlds other than the 23 base roster ones, right?
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>>539678960
Werehog
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>>539678754
My apologies for the hostility then, but I'm serious, too many people defended that game, and im worried about the implications of it. We're already getting Frontiers 2 and it sickens me. The first game was utter trash and should never have been celebrated like it was. People were just that fucking desperate after Forces.

How many "steps in the right direction" are we gonna have to fucking sit through before we have a good game? I 100% Frontiers because I wanted to like it so bad, but its just a shitty windows xp wallpaper with floating clipping pop in grind rails. It too what BotW did and somehow made it even MORE empty. I hate Frontiers so fucking much. And we have to do it fucking again.
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>>539678378
When'd he say that? Sauce?
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>>539679081
Mephiles is a Shadow villain. Iblis is the only thing that Silver and Blaze share.
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>>539678960
Marine fits into power pretty well.
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>>539679207
>why
we*
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>>539678905
Ill keep that in mind, Fren. Thanks for the offer!
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>>539678806
Sonic got hoe'd super hard and if you're in the "every game needs to be the sonic show power hour" i can understand why you'd not like it but as a game, by itself, its alright. its like... 7~ depending on if i ate breakfast that morning or not. I liked making a dude. The levels felt good to play. Everyone was retarded but whatever. 6.5.
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>>539678136
>>539678684
>Every sonic game where ian flynn is implicated, turned out to be good
>this general just for being contrarian and his own hateboner for him will say everything is shit
>we even have the lore team and the actual japs collaborating in everything regarding characters and worldbuilding, so everything is fine from every side of the world, to check on writers to make sense from now on (all of them, not only flynn.
>games reviews already said the game is good to amazing.
>this place will say everything is ooc and and just a massive fanfic anyway on a literal official game.
I can't and will never understand this place, is like a whole different dimension.
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>>539679406
>I can't and will never understand this place, is like a whole different dimension.
It's simply an echo chamber.
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>>539678960
The third member would be the anti anthesis to Silver
like Knuckles is to Sonic and Omega is to Shadow
a Light Knuckles if you want
That question is, what would that be?
Sparky get your ass in here
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>>539679406
Ian did ruin Generations tho. He made the HUGE fucking mistake of changing someone else's published work. That bit of hubris undermines whatever gains he got.
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>>539679536
In order for this place to be an echo chamber, there would have to be at least one single idea we all agree on.
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>>539676596
At least it's not MH Wilds. Or Borderlands 4 for that matter.
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>>539679081
No. If it's someone from 06/Silver's future then Blaze is a third wheel, if it's someone from Blaze's world then Silver is the third wheel.
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>>539679663
Bro it's 6pm
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>>539679645
>Light Knuckles
wait that's just Ariem
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>>539679663
Pink rat!
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>>539679692
Yes more Babylon Rogues content please
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>>539679738
That's. Harrowing, but true enough. This shouldn't be the hurdle to cross, but.
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>>539679790
Ariem doesn't counter Silver, so she can't be
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>>539679760
Still morning for me, well, kinda
>>539679793
Hi!
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>>539679213
I dont even know how the formula could be fixed. The idea of an open world sonic game sounds like it could work but the execution was so bad. Firstly it looked nothing like a sonic game, the set pieces looked like an unreal engine tech demo, get rid of that, two, maybe populate the world with tons of little like acrobatic or run courses that aren't spaced a million miles apart and lead to nothing but maaaybe another gem or rock or shard i dont even remember what the collecting thing was. Actually the more i think of it, maybe open world, like true open world, just doesn't work for Sonic
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>>539679716
Flynn is worse than Maekawa.
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>SilverxSticks
now THIS is a potential pairing
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>>539677467
>Sonic Riders Future
Absolutely based.
CrossWorlds is only on my radar because of the Extreme Gear but it still doesn't scratch that itch.
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>>539678960
Marine is either tech type or a speed type. She's not a power type just because her water blast is strong.
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>>539680010
You simply need to expand on what the original plan for Sonic Adventure 1 beta was going for. A whole map using momentum physics for slopes, loops and other BUILT IN mechanics that arent just slapped onto the assets.
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>>539679706
Ruin it? even ignoring flynn, the japs and the actual lore team behind it, that game is regarded as the best sonic game right now. What are you on?
The japs aprove everything regarding the games, you're gonna say our "jap masters" are in the wrong?
Heck even ignoring the sonic side, everyone loved shadow generations, and i mean normal people, not this place forgotten by god.
The only actual letdown was sega censoring stuff thanks to a enterprise similar to sweetbaby inc being implicated.
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>>539679692
>>539679075
The duality of the Heroes phenomena.
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>>539680023
What is it with Silver and getting stuck with chicks who'd peg him? You just know Sticks is gonna give him a cavity search to see if future government put some kind of MKUltra trigger in his ass.
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>>539677467
>>539680089
You can just play both
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>>539680246
>What is it with Silver and getting stuck with chicks who'd peg him
who knows
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>>539679081
Mephiles is a speed type according to Sonic Runners.
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>>539680023
Keep my beloved away from that fraud
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>>539680089
>it still doesn't scratch that itch
What would make Crossworlds better for you?
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>>539680286
And I will!
We're bringing back /sthg/ game nights whether you want them or not
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>>539664956
Team Rose isn't a solid team. The original team lineup had an all-girl team (Amy, Cream and Rouge) and an SA1 team (Chaos, Gamma, Big). This got hacked up so Rouge and an E-Series 'bot naturally got put in Shadow's team, so Amy, Cream and Big were left over.
>>539667510
At least an official sub blu-ray in the best quality by Discotek finally exists.
>"they" is used for robots instead of "he" or "it"
Too bad they single-handedly ruined it for a lot of people.
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>>539680205
>not this place forgotten by god.
What does that say about you being here?
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>>539657345
Well it does have to run on Switch 1, but the gtx 1650 does hold up pretty well for now.
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>>539676596
Should be fun for a while
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>>539680286
I CAN, but why would I when Crossworlds doesn't offer what I want.

>>539680370
Better Extreme Gear physics akin to how they SHOULD control, trick system in tact. Grindrails and shortcuts as well.
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>>539669287
It's her sphinx that was so cute she had to shave it.
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>>539680480
Sonic swears he the baddest bitch
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>Sticks: It's a government conspiracy, I tell you! They're planning on dumping floride in the water supply.
>Blaze: I'll have you know I approved the floride enrichment program. Not only will it make my subjects more docile but will do wonders for their dental hygiene.
>Sticks: So you admit it!
>Silver: Can I get my Ice Cream now.

The jokes write themselves.
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>>539679663
Good morning! Now bend over.
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>>539680370
Riders-esque shortcuts based on car/character type, I suppose. Like, grind rails for Gear and bash-through-walls for Power class etc.
I like the gear but they're really just car skins.
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>>539678136
>>539679406
Ian good. He saved the franchise. he did it to it.
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>>539680123
Meant for >>539679301
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>>539680554
Amend what this anon: >>539680654
Said onto my answer. He was better at articulation
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>>539680389
Japanese doesn't have pronouns to begin with so i dunno why people would get all up their own ass about it. They is technically correct, so would IT, it is a robot.
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>The only reference to the games in all of Underground is Dingo turning into Perfect Chaos for no reason
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>>539680023
Wouldn't Silver basically be a glowie as far as Sticks is concerned?
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Blaze the cumcat
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>>539680627
Shit like this is why I hate Sticks, her whole character is just being a schizo and conspiracyst. Why am I actually supposed to like her?
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>>539680639
who is ben dover
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>>539680819
>Ore Wa
>Watashi Wa
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>>539680363
>this place always said phone games doesn't count at all in the lore.
>sonic speed simulator explained amy learning being invinsible thanks to espio training and making her a kunoichi in the main games.
>sonic runners was made by the actual sonic team, even saying is canon to the main timeline.
>People saying sticks is not in the main universe, when sonic team already introduced her in the 2016 olympic games and sonic runners on the gameverse.
>sticks is directly mentioned by amy on frontiers
Why everyone forget sticks already exists?
No one here actually played the original sonic runners?
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>>539680873
Well, she might be retooled to be more like her Mario & Sonic version. Just a jungle girl who doesn't trust technology.
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>>539680873
Because they see you in here.
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>>539679943
>This shouldn't be the hurdle to cross, but.
Forced DLSS is cancer, and I'm already mentally preparing myself for when the next Sonic game crosses this threshold.
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>>539680391
How me posting here make my post invalid? This place is not as important as posters want to believe, maybe 15 years ago, nowadays is just a dumpster for porn.
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>>539681026
What's this FAT yellowish creature on the right of Blaze, with a white+gray mask? Is it a Mobian relative of Dr. Eggman, just a bit fatter?
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The licensed IP spam is the biggest reason why it's difficult to take Crossworlds seriously. Would you be looking out for a game that prides itself in ignoring its franchise's own characters for a bunch of randoms that have nothing to do with the series?
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>>539680819
>>539680982
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>>539680982
Theres lots of girl characters who use Ore, you're also forgetting Boku, Jibun, Atashi, Uchi etc etc etc. Just straight up saying your name yadda yadda those crazy nips and their words.
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>>539681265
>This place
>important

What are you? Twelve?
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>>539680386
>bringing back /sthg/ game nights
sounds fun unironically
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>>539681272
The Sonic characters most people care about are all present and are all fully voiced mind you.
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>>539681386
>He doesn't know
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>>539681329
>Theres lots of girl characters who use Ore
That's very rare for female characters.
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>>539681272
People complained that TSR didn't have Sega characters like the SAR games. They're just going to the logical endpoint with that mindsets (while making money off of it).
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>>539681513
Maybe with it, we can finally make the people that post here play a Sonic game.
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>>539681124
>Just a jungle girl who doesn't trust technology.
And that shit is boring, most Sonic characters has more meat to the character than this
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>>539680921
A distant relative to Deez Nuts.
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The fat crying wolf is in btw
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>>539681558
Yeah but its a precedent. Like if bulldykes existed in japan you know they'd use ore
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>>539681272
>Would you be looking out for a game that prides itself in ignoring its franchise's own characters for a bunch of randoms that have nothing to do with the series?
Yes because I love Crazy Taxi more than Sonic, so inject BD Joe into my veins.
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>>539677621
>team deadly six
>only two members playable
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>>539677621
>Team Dimensions
Nice.
>Team Deadly Six
>there's only two
wtf
>>539678378
Dimensions = mainline Sticks crossed over from the Boom universe?
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>>539681386
>anon said this place is worthless
>another anon replies making the same point as an counter argument.
Man this place makes me realize no one hare actually have reading comprehension.
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>>539681027
>Espio trained Amy to be invisible
That's retarded. Espio is a chameleon. Amy uses magic/ mysticism.
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Who would you rather put your penis in, Sonic the Hedgehog or Jet the Hawk?
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>>539681648
If this happens, I'm using the dolphin horn for her.
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>>539681860
>>539681867
Those two are Kishimoto's favorites, prease understando
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>>539675720
Yeah the anime is mostly filler, but to be fair that was most kids shows at the time. Every sonic cartoon that came out then too had basically 0 real progression of plot.
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>>539681910
Jet the Cawk
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>>539681910
Jet.
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>>539681272
>Would you be looking out for a game that prides itself in ignoring its franchise's own characters for a bunch of randoms that have nothing to do with the series?
The average Joe wouldn't give a fuck if Bean or Chaos 0 got in, but they sure as hell would be more interested if Spongebob or Minecraft Steve were playable. I'm assuming that's what you have issues with, because if you're also talking about the SEGA crossover characters you can go fuck yourself.
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>>539681910
Jet would enjoy it more
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>>539681867
I love gripes sticks like you wouldnt fucking believe.
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>>539663378
no they didn't
t. an actual cream fan at the time
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>>539681885
Is funny because, that's the actual explanation. Amy can turn invisible since 2006.
Way before sega started to use again the magic stuff.
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>>539682154
As someone with a sweat and musk fetish. Sticks was a godsend of a character to be added in.
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Silver and Blaze are the Sonics of their worlds. So their third member should either be Sonic or the Sonic of yet another world.
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If the pattern of how DLCs/FLCs are done in Crossworlds doesn't change, Sticks is going to be completely mute. Not only no rivalry lines, but also nothing during the race. That sucks.
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>>539680364
>>539682154
sticks doesn't bathe btw
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>>539682060
This.
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>>539682391
>>539682279
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If your character is a Hero Chao, then you can be the third member
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>>539682060
>because if you're also talking about the SEGA crossover characters you can go fuck yourself.
Why though? What's the deal with waiting for a Sonic racing game to have ONLY Sonic characters? Both the licensed IPs and Sega characters have no business being in the game.
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>>539682531
Oh yeah! I'm gonna try out Star Garden tonight, thanks for reminding me
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>>539682192
What do you think changed? Cream is getting a lot of love online whenever she comes back, is it just nostalgia at having someone from the hero era come back? Cause i don't see the same kind of love for Big.
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Badger
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>>539681272
I would have preferred crossworlds being a sonic game characters only game, but i guess is fine.
The funny thing is how sega is whoring out sonic with literally every ip interested.
But i cant blame sega, 10 years ago no one believed sonic as an ip was worth something, now everyone can see it's worth now that sonic started to make dough, and being popular again.
On a capitalist perspective, it does make sense.
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>>539682741
I love that stinky bitch like you wouldn't believe.
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>>539679663
Afternoon pink rat poster. Going through the usual quota, then some other business to handle.
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>>539682796
>On a capitalist perspective, it does make sense
Nta, but oh hell yeah. Given how much Fortnite STILL makes, its honestly staggering SEGA didnt sell the fuck out earlier. This will net a net positive for them undoubtedly. That is... if the game sells.
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>>539681986
Aw god he probably doesn't even know that "six" means "ni"...
...wait a minute. They're not the "Deadly Six" in Japanese. "六鬼衆" is more like "Fiendish Six" or "Demon Six". What're the team names in Japanese?
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DOG-FUCKING MODE, ACTIVATED
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>>539682531
I checked and no one else even has Hero Chao
I bet Ariem would
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HE'S IN ...Blitz
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>>539682796
>>539683010
Sega selling out to Blackrock was a grave mistake.
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slop
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>EAT MY ASS SHADOW

I can't believe she said this, maybe Ian isn't so bad
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>>539682531
>Blaze Chao has a smile
>Silver Chao has no expression
Usually it's the other way around >>539643494
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>>539683142
Im telling stolas
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STICKS IS FOR SILVER
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>>539683012
apparently the same in english, just in katakana.
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>>539683318
They date after matches
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>>539683318
Amy's ass is ASS
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>>539683287
For who? Sonic is making money for the first time in eons.
>but muh creative death
They already signed that away when they said they're using AI now.
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>>539681614
>People complained that TSR didn't have Sega characters like the SAR games
That's weird. They wanted TSR to be a carbon copy of SAR?
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Silver has more relationships with Mario characters than he does Sonic ones.
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>>539650880
Because there was a concerted effort around the 2010's by non-translators to misdirect their failures at translators so that they can drive them out of the industry and wrestle their positions from them, and Ian was one of the more successful ones.
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>SHADAMY
>STICKSILVER
>SONURGE
THE TRIFECTA
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>>539682718
big only had sa1 (his campaign is pretty much unanimously considered the worst part of the game) and heroes (controversial game)
cream had advance 2 (ok), advance 3 (good), battle (good) and heroes (see above)
basically what i'm trying to say is that the cream love comes from people who grew up playing as her. big doesn't get nearly as much because he's dragged down by his gameplay (or lack thereof).
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>>539683596
The translators were the real heroes all along. Ian was always a faker.
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>>539683636
>Not SticksAnon
You lost me. She can break the 4th wall, she's made for me.
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>>539683636
Stickver?
Silvicks?
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>>539683318
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>>539683350
I wonder if there is a big fat dark blue hedgehog in the Sol Dimension, like a Nega Big
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>>539683636
Shouldn't Shadow also be fucking a fake character?

ShadBelle. He loves earnest and sweet Robotnik girls.
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>>539683897
>Large the Hedgehog
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>>539683917
>Shouldn't Shadow also be fucking a fake character?
Shadally is part of a different trifecta
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>>539644191
What exactly determines an anthropomorphic character's ethnicity and race?
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>>539683952
That's Classic Johnny
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>>539683952
Why is his head so big?
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>>539682308
Well, non-canon character unfortunately...
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>>539683984
This made me remember a kid who used to get angry at me when I typed "Tails the Hedgehog" into Google and Tails still showed up. He kept yelling "that's not his fuckin name!" and all I would do is smile and say "then why does it show up?"
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>>539683952
His proportions seem wrong...

Rush Adventure is so good and anyone who hasn't played it should get on that.
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>>539683952
>Metal Tails
Wait, aren't the Metal Fighters from Superstars supposed to be just skins?
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>>539684087
american retardation
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>>539684087
Whatever feels right. Sonic is homeless child of the earth goes wherever kinda nigga, that feels native america, or possibly dead in the heart of africa black. Thats just an example, i have some kind of thought process for all my choices that aren't super obvious. Rouge is white but specifically from France, get it? Some have more obvious ties, the echidna are very clearly meso americans, but knuckles is also very black inspired, ergo he must be something like a mixed, mostly black, mullato, that is a black mixed with indigenous Mexican.
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>>539684237
I think they're implied canon since they're alongside the canon metals. Maybe a "Robotnik made these once and dumped them in the reject pile" or something.
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>>539683596
This pic is worth shit, when we already know the lore team and the actual japanese team is involved in literally every single sonic stuff nowadays.
This place is still east vs west when this ip is a global collaboration.
Heck sonic 2 was made by sonic team usa with actual japs involved.
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>>539680364
Don't talk to Sticks like that
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>>539684224
They will be filtered by sailing
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>>539684521
Stop, you'll upset the weebs. They think this franchise is still dominated by the Japanese, somehow. This is obviously ignoring the fact Japan doesn't give a single fuck about the blue rat.
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>>539683527
Not a carbon copy, just an expanded roster with more Sonic and SEGA reps.
>but why
Because the first two Sonic kart racing games (Drift 1/2 don't count) had other SEGA stuff in it that people liked so imagine the third game getting rid of all that. CrossWorlds bringing it back is a return to form. Riders did that shit too anyways: NiGHTS, Aiai, Billy Hatcher, Ulala, and Amigo were all playable between Riders and Zero Gravity, with series like Crazy Taxi, Fantasy Zone, and Hang On getting their own Extreme Gear models.
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>>539683952
>zazz
Why sega likes to shill zazz so much when zeena is the second popular deadly six?
I get about zavok, because he's the main zeti and the actual leader, when truth to be told, no one likes the deadly six that much, but are some of the few antagonists that don't die at the end of the game.
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>>539684237
Apparently they're actual robots. Tails mentioned Metal Tails in one of his Crossworld rival dialogues and I think this is the confirmation that Metal Tails, Amy, Trip and Nights are real their own entities in universe. However since Superstars takes place before SA1 it's unclear what happened to them in universe. They might just be in stasis like that Metal Sonic-esque robot in Adventure
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>>539683362
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>>539684776
Zazz has always been the second main Zeti. He's a boss fight in Sonic Dash for example
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Sage’s va is hot
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>>539684868
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>>539684776
She's only popular because sexo.

I assume Iizuka is shilling his favorites.
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>>539685038
Rei Ayanami
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>>539683596
>flynn hate
>we already knew japs see, review and give feedback to literally anything involving sonic.
Funny how jap purists, are literally saying japs are making shit without them knowing.
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>>539685038
That's because she's one of the only VAs that isn't fucking 100. She's 27. Unlike those other fcuking fossils doing the voice work with their tired ass lines
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>>539684794
Them
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>>539645831
Not nearly enough
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Prime is canon get over it
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>>539684740
>Riders did that shit too anyways
The original 2006 developers couldn't think of any other Sonic characters to add into the roster? For example, instead of Nights, Aiai and Ulala, why they didn't add the Chaotix?
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>>539685350
Okay. That means Gemerl is dead.
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guys are we actually gonna spend 70 dollars on this shit?
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What is the news?
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>>539685095
So is he
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>>539684776
>truth to be told, no one likes the deadly six that much, but are some of the few antagonists that don't die at the end of the game.
I'm still hopeful infinity is alive, because he had such a goat design just to be forgotten into oblivion.
Underrated villian too, on my opinion.
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>>539684521
>the lore team and the actual japanese team is involved in literally every single sonic stuff nowadays.
Oh yeah, after Sonic "wtf-did-that-retarded-gaijin-do, i-gotta-fix-his-shit-asap, wtf-do-you-mean-it's-too-late-to-fix-the-english-script-too-plus-animations, fuck-it-you-can-keep-the-shitty-rough-draft-while-we-make-the-final-japanese-exclusive" Frontiers.
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>>539684794
>They might just be in stasis like that Metal Sonic-esque robot in Adventure
What are the chances that they were left to rot in some abandoned Eggman base in the Northstar Islands?
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>>539685419
I already said multiple times I couldn't even be fucked to download the free trial. I couldnt fathom spending money on this trash
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>>539685038
Ryan bartley is cool, I met her once at a con.
>>539685220
She is not 27, she voiced rei ayanami back in like 1997 bro. She's at least in her 40s.
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>>539685406
he isn't dead he just exploded and vaporized you can come back from that
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>>539685406
wait WHAT?! WHEN? MY BABY BOY?!
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>>539685630
I was talking about Ryan. I couldn't give a single fuck about the JP dub.
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>>539685419
70 dollar cunny sim
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>>539685419
no sonic
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>>539685768
>>539685768
>>539685768
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>>539680873
>Shit like this is why I hate Sticks, her whole character is just being a schizo and conspiracyst. Why am I actually supposed to like her?
Funny, you said that, when she's the literal embodiment of posters here and 4chan as a while.
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>>539685564
Now I want a Sonic story that rips off FNAF and has Metal Sonic finding his metal copy siblings in an abandoned warehouse and awakening them by giving them life
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>>539685732
So am I. Look up her behindthevoiceactors page. She wasn't doing VA work when she was -1 years old.
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>>539684521
>nowadays
>sonic 2
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>>539686142
One doesn't invalid the other anon, is pretty clear he's referring to two different situations retard.
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>>539685538
This.
CrossWorlds had the Japanese involved earlier in the process and is synced to it specifically to address the complaint.
Also seeing other media such as the TailsTubes designed to walk-back and course-correct the English seed-planting.
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>>539685538
>Oh yeah, after Sonic (headcanon) Frontiers
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>>539687839
>the truth is headcanon apparently
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>>539688098
>no anon you dont get it, iizuka personally told me what happened in one of my schizophrenic delusions
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>>539688579
https://www.thegamer.com/sonic-frontiers-writing-japan-asia-regional-changes/
The story broke **LESS THAN TWO MONTHS** before the game released. It's clear as day that the Japanese rescript was rushed through, which is why Japanese players reportedly believe there are MTL signs.
The Kishimoto quote floating around is a very Japanesey way of saying "boy that American script really sucked." Of course they're more hands-on now, but there hasn't even been another mainline to really see the lasting effect of this yet.
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>42 dollars extra from 70 if you don't pay 90 for Sonic Crossworlds upfront
The Sega scam...
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>>539690834
ouch
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>>539670461
None of those are against AI, Nintendofag. The second is the one that comes the closest, but it doesn't actually say what you think it says. All of them are just justifying their use of AI, by saying that they will still have "a human touch" (humans operating the AI).

>we will work to continue delivering value that is unique to Nintendo and cannot be created by technology alone.
They WILL use the technology.
>In the game industry, AI-like technologies have long been used
They reassure you: don't worry, they've always used AI. They have no problem using AI.
>we are open to utilizing technological developments
They will use AI.
>and it is a discussion right now at Nintendo
And then they show you how it's being discussed. They will use it without losing "the human touch".

NOTHING of what they said is "against AI". You are delusional. If they were against AI they wouldn't say that they're internally discussing to decide on how to use AI, they would say that they have decided not to use AI. If they were against using AI, they would say that they will continue to make games without the new AI technology, instead of saying that they will incorporate it with the human touch. If they were against AI, they would say that they are against AI, instead of saying that they're going to use AI. You Nintendofags are delusional.
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>>539697351
>None of those are against AI, Nintendofag. The second is the one that comes the closest, but it doesn't actually say what you think it says. All of them are just justifying their use of AI, by saying that they will still have "a human touch" (humans operating the AI).
>humans operating on the AI
They never said this schizo, you're projecting delusions. Human touch = not ai segafags

>we will work to continue delivering value that is unique to Nintendo and cannot be created by technology alone.
>They WILL use the technology.
They said "cannot be created by technology alone"
>In the game industry, AI-like technologies have long been used
>They reassure you: don't worry, they've always used AI. They have no problem using AI.
That doesn't mean that, they said ai like technologies like controlling enemies have been used, not generative, schizo.
>we are open to utilizing technological developments
>They will use AI
They aren't referring to generative ai. It's technological developments.
>and it is a discussion right now at Nintendo
>And then they show you how it's being discussed. They will use it without losing "the human touch".
Which specifically means they aren't using generative ai

>NOTHING of what they said is "against AI". You are delusional. If they were against AI they wouldn't say that they're internally discussing to decide on how to use AI, they would say that they have decided not to use AI. If they were against using AI, they would say that they will continue to make games without the new AI technology, instead of saying that they will incorporate it with the human touch. If they were against AI, they would say that they are against AI, instead of saying that they're going to use AI. You Nintendofags are delusional.
You are braindead Segafag. All they posted is against using generative ai. They are using technology that needs total human control, not generative shit like Sega. You are a schizo shoving a truckload of words in Nintendo's mouth.



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