Ugly creature>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked:>>540003415
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Toxic bullets
Fortitude retards can endure any barrage of logic hurled at them, their terrible decision making can survive anything, like that small amount of germs that remain after disinfectant is applied
Redpill me on the alternative gamemode(s).
Reposting for new thread:We need Valve to start mailing pipe bombs to anyone who opens stat tracking sites during or after the match to justify their selfish play style. If they shitpost in the Discord screenshotting it, Valve should just end their family lineage with a precision orbital strike.Try getting good at video games instead of dragging your team down to your subhuman level of skill, noobs.
Make a new thread with a less horrid op image
>>540070476Then you should've made it yourself you lazy nigger.
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When are we finally going to stop pretending that 3 lanes was not a mistake and move back to 4 lanes
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>na so dead they cant get 6 players for in-house GrimThe rivals gooners won...
>>540070670t. splitpushing rat fuck
>>540068784Forty bros....
sneed
>>540070723> I. MUST. BROOL.
how do you ping that an spell is on cooldown?I just try to level it if I alt click?
>>540070860if you want to do nothing but shoot creeps and buildings all game go play risk of rain nigger
>>5400706599/123 more retards required to start
>>540070883middle mouse button
>>540070883Middle mouse like every ping
>>540070905>NOOOO STOP PLAYING THE OBJECTIVEI HAVE TO PLAY TEAM DEATH MATCH IN MID>DROOLING RETARD CHIMP OUT NOISES (YOU)
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>>540071009i brool so that i can shoot buildingsyou avoid brooling because you can't take good fightswe are not the same
>>540070947can amber hand not have a team of supports lmao
>>540071009Its time to vote on your phones, which is the worst playerThe RatThe BroolerOr the Ricer (only soul gain items and damage)
>>540071150The Hacker, because Valve is incapable of making a functional anti-cheat.
>>540071098We have startedWatch here J540Q, or if bug is streaming
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!TAKING OFF HIS GLOVES AND HOLDING HANDS EVEN
hopefully I've been assigned my last state mandated loss of the day.
>>540070543Make it for me
>>540070269Extra health
>>540070269high velocity roundsmakes all the heroes i play hitscan :)
>>540070372You said it would lose you the game though. Fortitude doesn't seem to be that bad
>>540070958>>540070950so weird, alt works on items
>>540071665There is legitimate a good excuse to hv rounds(let's you stand farther back) but no one says that they all say it makes it FEEL goodWhich is fine for 95% of people but when supposed pros buy this item instead of just leading their shots it drives me up a wall. Your a pro, dont get items of convenience, git gud
>>540070269Tough choice between this or the stamina items, I need at least one to be happy
>>540071942That's because "pros" are using aimbots so they need to be closer to hitscan velocity or else they would miss.
>>540072147They should buy the good aimbots that can lead
>>540072117firing your weapon shouldn't slow you down to begin with
>>540070269but I really love Majestic Leap, movement+barrier is too good
the absolute REACH of this fucking ult sometimes.
>>540072824>NOW MOMO
>>540072824verticality in this game is dishonest sometimes.
>>540070269Headshot Booster in lane
>>540072824that must have been a catastrophic ping diff
>>540071431Reading my cards I see a great many loses in your future.
>>540072824maurice is on the epstein list
>>540070269this shit never gets old, I buy it nearly every game.
>>540071754it's not the item its the PLAYER who thinks its a good idea, retard
just played the worst fucking game50 minute 5v4 we won but it was.....humiliating
seven got a little angry there with that rescue beam
Character literally nobody uses?
>>540074867Geist and Viscous
>>540074867https://statlocker.gg/heroes/tier-list
im thinking bout carrots
niggas really picking infernus here
Cinema inhouse
>>540074867I never see Vyper or Calico in my games
>>540071942helps for more effective leading at longer ranges and both express shot and AP rounds are good for either hybrids or real gun carry builds thobeit
CS//TC is the SOF // Flame shield of our time
I REFUSE to participate in any inhouse with a shivnigger in it, sorry.
>>540074248The range on that bad boy is too good>>540075273
>>540075390sneed
How is toxic bullets and tesla nowadays?
I have won 19/22 games and I only ranked up 3 times
Refining my goo ball build, any suggestions goobros? There are fuck all bullet resist items for casters and buying straight up resilience feels like a waste of a slot, but I don't have enough active slots to keep the enemy faggots down.
>>540075676is this an ult build? you're not running warpstone?
>>540075852Like I said not enough active slots, and I always mistime it due to fluctuating range from cultist/collector.
>>540070269this item purely exists to reinforce the aesthetic of sinclair and assassins and it's fine for it
>>540075929Are you genuinely getting that much value out of rescue beam? I've stopped building it since the nerfs last month. I also think scourge is more of a luxury item and you should prioritize Phantom Strike earlier in the build. Every ult viscous build I play has Cold Front/Warpstone/PStrike every game and the last slot is flexible.
thanks for putting this cheating nigger in my games valve!
>>540076125Rescue's great, I'm still deep enough in the rank decay trenches to get at least 3-5 saves a match for the over-extenders, and using it during goo ball has repeatedly gotten my out of fights with a shred of health left.
I love the ambient sounds of the main menu room, there's one that plays thats like a drowned out foghorn, one of the best sounds Ive heard in my life
>>540076331well if it's good in your games it might be fine to keep, but I really think no warpstone for an ult viscous build is trolling, you should learn to use it if you can't because consistent double/triple stuns is the most broken thing about the ultby the way magic carpet with this build is really fucking funny if you haven't tried it yet
>>540070085I haven't played deadlocked, this character is a girl?
I rebind Assassinate to right click
>>540073687not so fast, tarot man.
>>540076632a girlgoyle
>>540076632it's drawn by a freak who likes his balls crushed most likely, which means he's def a moba player
>>540075676Why ball over splat or punch?
i wanna play an m1 character, infernus, mirage, or wraith?
>>540076970Glocket
>>540077026i never tried pocket but i feel like you have to be ultra jewish to control him cause of his abilities
>cube doorman while on zip with no threat to getting knocked>green cube riding the zip over blue>"CUBES ON COOLDOWN"kek
>>540077083its the opposite
>>540077026how to not suck and hate playing gocket
>>540077143k ill try him. any advice for me?
>>540076970viscous
>>540076861>you should learn to use it if you can't because consistent double/triple stuns is the most broken thing about the ultI know but Pstrike+warp+cold front leaves no room for anything else if I end up getting cultist sac.For laning/early game I max splatter first and just play a mad bomber with splat+cold front into goo ball, then full ult once I get fortitude online.>punchprefer using it for traversal rather than damage. I also constantly clip random terrain that fucks up the punch
>>540077285>laning>enemy hides behind walls >m2 the floor closest to them lmao
>>540077301>filenameyeah looks like you all died
>check billy's spirit ratios>1.1>1.7 + max hp damage scaling with spirit>1.0So... why not spirit Billy, exactly?
>>540077195>>540077160never give upyou will suck hard at first, youre going to misinput your abilities in the incorrect order and die a lot. but thats ok, cause you will be learning, and eventually its gonna click. you need to focus on learning the movement mechanics of the game. but once it clicks, oh man it feels so fucking good.make sure to practice landing affliction combos with majestic leap, practice how barrage conserves your momentum.
>>540077578because his gun is pretty good and ignoring it is stupid.
why did they get rid of the old visouc h melee? it used to be his big fist from his 3
>hud mods for buff and midboss timerscan cheating retards get lynched already
>>540072824bro definitely has the ultimate bound to his scrollwheel
>>540078336wtf do you need mods for, its already on the screen????
>>540077578Because reload on punch = more bullets whereas you get a charge or slam every once in a while yknow?
>>540078336>having timers is cheatinglollmao even
>>540078487modifying the game's files for an advantage over other people that don't is by definition cheating
>>540072824>mo and krill are not dishone-
>>540078487Yes
>>540078535So if I have a timer on my phone that I start when the match starts that's cheating? Yeah okay bud, what will you say next? Having a gaming mouse with more buttons is cheating too? Get real.
>>540075541No different than they've ever been. If the enemy has a lot of big health guys and heals, you buy toxic bullets. If you're an M1 character and have no good farming abilities, you buy tesla
>>540078370nope, i just pressed it at the right time to get him since i saw where he was trying to go.it didn't actually seem that bad on my screen but it was much more stupid than i thought on the replay.15 ping btw
>>540078784well you should bind it to your scrollwheel i think
>>540078487If they wanted you to have easy access to this information there would already be a hud for this, so yes its cheating.
>>540078675no retard, it tracks midboss respawn for you, hitting a timer on your phone as soon as the match starts wouldnt do that
>>540075541tesla is good and capacitor is one of the most op items in the game right nowtoxic bullets is the secret infinite damage glitch
how do i tell if i did enough im doorman
>>540075168these pick rates cannot be right
>>540078887Then you're calling anyone who plays with a custom hud in TF2 a cheater too.>>540078924Midboss respawn timer is not random so you can track this too on your phone.You retards call anything cheating lmao. Get fucking gud.
>>540079095>fighting on midboss>dies in the middle of the fight>don't look at the time>someone who has cheater hud now has an advantage over youif you can't understand that you're actually braindead
>>540079014you participated in maybe only 12 fights
>>540079187>don't look at the timeSkill issue, learn to look at the time while you fight 5head.
>>540079257so true
fuck all of you that made it seem like mo and krill is some carried free win character he is so fucking ass im going back to warden
>>540079273you should say the same thing to the people modding their game to track it for them instead, and increasing their fov. instead of defending cheating
Is fire rate still a useless stat on paradox?
>>540079358but he wouldnt do that because he is a cheater
I think unless you're 5-0 on Mirage by like 10 minutes I don't know why people pick this character at shitlowIt's not enjoyable to lane with in the slightest because they exert negative pressure and damage
>>540079014you're middle of the team on damage and souls.and it looks like you even bought cultist meme.
>>540079356No Mo and Krill propaganda allowed here sir, he is retard proof and the only way to be useless as him is if your hands were cut off mid match and even still he'd be damaging your entire team while tanking every tank
>>540079363yep, go to the test room and toggle blood tribute on & off to see for yourself.
>>540079356no one is going to believe youre too retarded to play mo and krill, not even if youre a warden shitter
>>540079358>>540079406Timers are fine on the hud. Increasing FOV past the intended amount is actually cheating. Learn to differentiate these things better rather than call everything you don't like a cheat.
>>540079054statlocker is a trash website. maybe they'll fix it one day.
>>540079472tanking every attack*
>>540079578weird how pretty much everyone who does one also does the othermaybe stop cheating for an advantage in a game that's in alpha
>>540079578I dont care what cheats you use bro, youre still a cheater
timers were added to dota for roshan, I'm sure it'll come to deadlock for mid boss when they're farther along in development.
>>540079664>>540079697I don't fuck with my FOV, I only get custom hud elements. Call me a cheater all you want, your opinion is w r o n g. cope, seethe, etc
>>540079886no wonder you're so adamant on defending itbecause you're a cheater
>>540079789people are saying its not hard to memorize timings. but everyone playing is a fucking zoomeroid on adderal or recovering.
>>540079886I already said I didnt care what cheats you used you filthy jeet
>>540079918see>>540079789
>>540079529I remember testing it some many months back and the highest fire rate item amounted to a 4% dps increase. Now, I don't remember if I accounted for the yellow item damage, probably not.
>>540079472>>540079559HEY EVERYBODY MY SPECIAL POWER IS WALKING UP TO PEOPLE WITH GUNS AND GETTING SHOT OUT AND HAVING A 40 SECOND ESCAPE BUTTON WHEN EVERYONE ELSE HAS ONE ON 15 SECONDS IM SO BROKEN
>>540079789would be sick if they were like an actual clock on the map, like a clocktower near mid, with a bell that rings when it's up
>>540080010>>540079789they're not in the game now, adding them yourself is, in fact, cheating
>>540070269This item? Was specifically designed for (and probably by) McGinnis and you cannot convince me otherwise. I'd even rush it back when it was a T3 item.
>>540080029I noticed you cropped out your initiate rank you worthless nigger kek
>no cc>no aoe>no stuns>no escape tool>slow>bad farm>has to permabuy fucking DECAY>can't do anything without rage
streamable.com/qmmxi0
>>540074248Metal pipe SFX mod when?
>>540080190half of this list is just straight up lies
>>540080139fuk you i'm average
>>540080029Blewhehowowoe.
>>540080237LMAO
>>540079095>custom hud in TF2Custom huds in tf2 don't add any new information to the hud, it just moves it around. Comparing the two is the cope of someone trying to justify their own shitty behavior lol
>>540080190all of this list is just straight up truth
>540080139Europeans are so mean for no reason
>NOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A CUSTOM GAME CONFIG THATS CHEATING!!>NOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE FPS WITH A STRONGER COMPUTER, THAT'S CHEATING!!!!!>NOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE INCONSEQUENTIAL CLOCKS FOR PREDICTABLE GAME MECHANICS ON YOUR SCREEN, THAT'S CHEATING!!!!!!>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A MACRO THAT LETS YOU COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR TEAM, THAT'S CHEATING!!!!!!You niggers right now.
>>540080806But where do you draw the line?
>>540080406but some custom huds in tf2 have things to show if a class was recently hurt based on their pain voicelines and some add hitmarkers or the last amount of damage you did being on the HUD or making your weapon transparent so you can see 17% more of the screen than other playersthat's cheating
>>540080806removing things from your own mental stack is cheating, if you think otherwise, you are a subhuman cheater
I need a webm of that wombo combo
fuck y'all for saying "just ignore victor lol" when this cocksucker just gunned down my wraith and krill
That was stupidest game of deadlock i ever playedBroolkino
>>540081225that was pretty rough
I want McGinnis dead
Rejuvenator needs to be nerfed into the fucking ground teamwide revive is fucking insane especially in a game where buyback does not exist. There's a reason Dota only gets fucking one of them.
actually this'll be my last game, was fun
the luggage cart, from outta nowhere
>>540081225wow perma broken tier SSS lash ulted people into another ult I've never seen that before, what an amazing play, truly deserves taking hardware space
>>540080190I MISS THE RAGE
is ult bepop a thing? i really like the big fucking laser
wait you can have more than one doorman on a team in customs? 6v6 doorman only inhouse kino when?
>>540081301That's real easy to do, just shoot her and hit her with abilities, she can't run from you and her wall is more likely to lock you in and her teammates out than the reverse.
>>540080806If you're fuming that hard from being called a cheater, just get rid of the HUD mod lil bro. Surely you can do as you say and just remember to look at the timers yourself, no?
>>540080880FOV Mods, Aimbot, Wallhacks, etc. You know, actual cheats that give you an inhuman advantage. This isn't some complicated rocket science to understand that having a clock on your screen for a predictable game mechanic is far from cheating. You gain an advantage, but that advantage is equivalent to me having more FPS by turning my settings on low to have less input lag. Another example is a chess player using a timer for their turn. They are just tools, not some holy grail of cheats that if you use it, your WR% will be at 90% or some ludicrous number.
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>>540081543>They are just toolsyeah that's what aimbotters say lol
>>540081470yes, it's called playing sinclair
>>540081543its not equivalent to FPS increases though, its a mental thing you have to keep track of
>>540081543>predictable game mechanicObviously not so predictable that you can remember it yourself LOL, get a grip.
>>540081557I'd like to, but I'm doing other things. Anymore inhouse in the future?
>>540081495Yes but they rend to be buggy and crashing https://www.twitch.tv/cl_ogar0/clip/UnsightlyStupidSeahorseBudBlast-r5KHcjnWfkBx5LwK
>>540079463is that bad
>>540081609Nice strawman
>>540081751im only arguing in as retarded a way as you are, cheater
So, I really enjoy ult build, but also don't want my gun to hit like a wet noodle when I don't have Barrage ready ( hate worthless turrets to. What Items do I get for hybrid McGinnis?
>It's easy to look at the clock when midboss dies, just get good.>Me? No I use a mod that tells me.You can't be serious right now.
Why does this shit needs to be teamwide? Base defense is already impossible enough as it is without the entire fucking team getting a 2nd life.
holy fuck it feels good to play this character i am literally never gonna play anyone else, i got my haze so many kills early and it made us win forever
>>540077578because unlike mo, billy has actual cooldown on his abilities
You retards need to read this: https://deadlock.wiki/Mid-BossIts predictable, you don't need a timer, or you can have one, doesn't matter, the outcome is the same. This isn't some game ending mod like you all make it out to be lol>oh no someone who has some spectrum of autism to track timers is cheating now, kill the nigger for having a different brain.
>>540077994because they're working on his new model and they broke it accidentally
>>540082104the entire point of rejuv is to siege high ground little bro.
>>540082158Welcome to the brotherhood
>>540082243Cope, cope, cope. You're a cheater.
>>540082243yeah i use an aimbot, but it's okay cause i'd have 100% headshot rate without it anyways
>>540082291No shit you dumb cocksucker I'm not saying remove it outright but it has no business being a teamwide buff. It should be limited to 1, MAYBE 2 people. Dota perfected this 20 years ago and literally the same fucking guy made this game.
>>540070085is turret mcginnis garbage now i just wanna throw down turrets and melt people
>>540082484>Dota perfected this 20 years->creates Rejuvicefrog obviously says otherwise
>>540079789There is no in game timer for Rosh people post the time stamp in chat and use that to figure out when it's going to spawn again. The game does not outright tell you.
>>540082243I'm gonna be honest I don't think anyone would bother to defend it this hard unless they themselves thought and knew it was cheating.
>>540082596I guarantee you it will not stay teamwide for long once they start putting out patches again. It is obscenely broken in it's current state.
>>540080242holy SHIT it's Viper!
>>540082420>>540082716Having a clock on your screen is not cheating. If you can't understand that, then it sucks to suck. I'm going to start calling everyone who has the deadlock wiki open cheaters too, because anyone who has knowledge of a game function is a cheater clearly.
what is match code i wanna watch
>in pisslow>gun paige wins every match because people don't buy disarm
>>540083089You have a clock on your screen already, surely you can add 7, and then 6, and then 5, to it and remember perfectly when midboss will spawn yourself right? Right? You said it was so easy to do. Oh wait, you can't. Because you're a cheater.
>>540083181room temp iq
>>540083241I don't respect the opinion of people who have to repeatedly convince themself that something they're doing isn't cheating.
>>540083342That's like your opinion lil fella. I'm sorry you have the stupid.
>>540083424And I'm sorry you have the reasoning skills of a child. Calling someone stupid because you know you're wrong is laughable.
>>540083050yeah probably, but aegis was far from perfect. also 20 years ago from this point, it had three charges, you could craft it and it spawned you in fountain. in 2007 it was given to roshan, made into a single use and spawn in place.
my minimap has a timer over every single camp on the map telling me exactly when they'll respawnit's ok cause it's fully predictable and always spawns at the same time after you kill them
>>540083824Don't give them any ideas, anon.
i STILL wish i could put the mini map on the bottom left.
Is there a hero that isn't commonly built spirit but is actually good with a spirit build? Maybe Calico?
>>540083517You're being called stupid because you can't count numbers. The original hud has a clock on it. Midboss spawns at 10 mins. When midboss dies, a timer of 4 minutes (add 4 to the existing time). After that timer expires or the rejuv credits expire you just look at your clock, and add numbers based on how many times mid-boss died. There's a whole process for this, and calling me a cheater for your lack of knowledge is downright hilarious. So please, stop projecting your stupidity and read the wiki. Here it is: https://deadlock.wiki/Mid-BossFor the record, this is what I normally did in my mind, but I just want a timer for the sake of convenience. I don't see it as cheating, and neither does Valve, otherwise I would have been banned by now, all the other top streamers would be banned by now too for using a fucking clock.By your logic all mathfags and numberfags are cheaters now.
>>540084216>calls someone out for a strawman>immediately bases their entire argument around a strawmanit's okay because streamers do it isn't an argument. streamers are also chronic smurfers, and they don't get banned for that either despite it being a bannable offense you retarded faggotyou're a cheater.
>>540084216nice post, however I couldnt help but notice youre a cheater?
>>540084216>By your logic, using cheats is the same as someone doing what the cheat does using their own skill without cheating?????????????????????????????????
>>540084318>>540084331>>540084468Complain on the forums if you think its cheating. I don't, so have a nice day.I'll let chatgpt talk to you from now on:A strawman argument is when someone misrepresents what another person said, then argues against that weaker or distorted version instead of the real point.In this case, me saying “Valve only bans cheats like aimbots and wallhacks, not HUD or console tweaks” wasn’t meant as a strawman. I wasn’t reframing your question into something else — I was directly clarifying what counts as cheating in Valve’s rules, since your concern was whether adjusting HUD/damage numbers could be seen that way.If I had said something like:“So you’re asking if HUD mods are as bad as using an aimbot” (when you never implied that) — that would be a strawman.Instead, what I gave was more of an expansion/clarification, not a misrepresentation.Do you want me to break down the difference between a direct answer, a strawman, and a steelman (the opposite of strawman) so it’s clearer?
>>540084186try out spirit/ricochet mirage, spirit abrams, spirit viscous, and double dagger haze.
I cheat and I'm a trans indian btw
>>540082325my teammate sucked fucking ass and went 0/6/ in like the first 15 mins (and the enemies were teabagging him and talking shit) and i was positive with him and encouraging and we ended up winningbut there was one time where he was getting ganked hard and i just ran up and ulted and told him to runfelt like vidrel https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-MNC4Il9BmQ
>>540084186Haze.
Gun shiv seems shit now?
>>540084216>I don't see it as cheating, and neither does Valve, otherwise I would have been banned by nowquote from man frogged: what are you going to do, frog me?
>Cheater also has to outsource their arguments to an AI after they get blown the fuck outhahahahahaha holy fuck
>>540084714spirit viscious is a lot of fun
>>540084795Shiv is a dash bitch now. All he does is spam 2 and 4
>>540080190Do shivniggers really?
>>540084882I think the argument was made and concluded. You lost hard bro, just let it go bro, you lost. It's okay to lose. Losing is part of an experience to learn in life!
>>540072824Some ping diff but the main factor is that yea, the range on Combo is defined as a cylinder and it has a ridiculously tall ceiling.>>540073372I'd agree, it's not the only example of an ability that has absurd extra range purely on the vertical. Pretty sure Vindicta tether is the same.>>540078632Most MnK players will own up to this one. It could get fixed tomorrow and so long as it's not in the form of something equally stupid in the opposite direction like people being able to jump over Combo targeting or something, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.
I've seen increasing posts about pocket ITTand increasing niggers using pocket and wrecking shit
solo queue in this game is genuinely so dreadful dota was better in every conceivable way by comparison
>>540085017you can't even form a coherent thought without outsourcing it to a robot my man, you're so butthurt over being called a cheater you've made up several different reasons to call it something other than what it is
I legitimately have been playing multiplayer games since I was like 10 years old and I've never felt as good and fulfilled and happy as I do when playing Doorman, Valve did so well with him.
>>540085152Lil bro, you're still falling for my bait. You lost, lmao
>standard ratio peasants bickering over if changing an engine-standard console command is cheating or notDamn it feels good to be an ultrawideGOD.
>>540085214
>>540081462I miss the areas underneath old mid building, they were a nice wrinkle for fights and chases and I don't think there's anything in the current map that feels the same.
>>540085253Kill yourself
>>540085342stay mad cheater
>>540085253Don't dig too deep now.
Truly the most cocksucker seven build of all time
we are still playing inhouses. will it fill? up 2 u: J540QJ540Q
people forget you can buy debuff remover against seven
>>540085415>uhm actually streamers do it so it's ok>uhm actually i could do the same thing without it so it's ok>uhm actually you're projectinganymore nuggets of wisdom for uscheater
ggs, bit of a comp diff in the last one but fun broolfests
nerf veilwalker
The fishes are really rustling about today.
>>540085484Can you remove the knockdown, echo shard and refresher tho.J540QJ540QJ540Q
>>540085570you know you can buy it too, right?
>>540085615i mean it'll still lower the stun time
inhouse may be ded and lock'd for the night, just 6+ people leftwas fun though
>>540085616im too honest
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ggssorry for feeding, I only played gun pocket like twice and I forgot how to build it
>that seven buildlmoaGGs boyos
>>540085692ill sit in afk and go do something else for a couple mins
>>540085718are you a fighting game player, just because you lose to something doesn't make it dishonest, it just is
post the seven build
we need a 3v3 mode in this game for when there are 6 dumb bitches not playing in the inhouse
>>540085872there is a custom map for that (has some problems though)also just everyone doing a solo lane works
>>540085872Technically nothing stops you from going 3v3 only mid
>>540085984some dumb fag splitting
>>540085516Wisdom Nugget: It's okay that you're wrong and you lost. Maybe next time!
I play Paige so I can buy Divine Barrier and use it as a debuff remover on my teammates!
>>540085930I did see hydration playing a custom map a longtime ago, looked like a 2v2 mode, very experimental map, missing textures.>>540085984I think the way the waves rando push down guardians can fuck up the boons and one side gets free shit which unbalances it.
@bebop in last inhouse https://www.twitch.tv/cl_ogar0/clip/DoubtfulAstuteDonkeyKeepo-m4dSJsS1dbFss86mI also xompletely and utterly shat the bed in that gameI need around 300 more hours to get good on dogman.
>>540086080Do me a favor and ask literally anyone the following question.>Is modifying game files for an advantage over other players cheating?Report back and let me know what people think.
>>540085984I'm down to 3v3
>>540086160Let me break this down for you:If it helps me, its clever use of game mechanicsIf it helps you, well thats cheating.
>>540086080Actually I just went ahead and asked ChatGPT since that's probably the only "person" that would willingly talk to someone so retarded on a regular basis.
>>540086129I have the map installed. The main issues it has it that it lacks things like a starting moment, so everyone has to trickle in while joining while the match itself if going on.The other is that you can always have the option to swap between characters and I don't know how to stop that, and it gives you more souls every time you do.
>>540086281it's hard when the lobby doesn't have a chatroom
I think it's actually joever now.
>>540086157me as geist shooting creeps and not chasing there cause a kill is worth less than a wave at 4 minutes. Also if you let the doorman stay low they can't pressure or they have to go base which takes a while cause zip is slower than respawn. Obvi a kill is worth if you can get it ez pz, but thats my decision making logic
>>540086432yes the party has officially disbandedrip J540Q you were a good code
think we'll get a patch around halloween? (not just pumpkins and masks like last year but an actual patch) It will have been 2 months since the last patch by then
Most fun heroes to buy spirit snatch on? How is it on Holliday?
>>540086723I think we will get an asset patch for Fall season. New jungle minions, hero remodels hopefully. Tomorrow possibly?
>>540086352Great Oracle, why aren't they banned then?
>have spirit burn>Shiv still just dashes 100 times and heals to fullthat was such fucking horseshit
>>540086874>Tomorrow possibly?lol
>>540086805its a skill issue item, can be really OP on pocket, holiday, yamato, basically any spirit burster with movement abilities
>>540082643when's the last time you played? or do you not see it next to glyph and scan and the minimap?
>>540086945Because the game can't automatically differentiate between someone modifying the hud to cheat, and someone modifying the hud to change hero portraits to goofy little drawings.Some aimbotters don't get banned for literal years if their script is good enough, surely they'd be banned faster if it was wrong, right?
>>540086356Those are unfortunate issues, but I'd be interested in loading it up myself. How to install?
>make smurf>initiate 1 games are harder than my alchemist rank games alchemist isnt even a high rank either
>>540087226https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3336352448Literally just download and drop into map folder.
>>540072824>GET OVER HERE
>>540072824BUT ANON HE HAS TWO HEADSHOT HURTBOXESTWO(2)
is goo hard for a newshitter?
>>540087173How is this different than using a tf2 hud?
>>540085730I missed it again, too busy playing Deadlock to check the thread!Holliday is hard to play. I tried a hybrid build for 2 games but didn't manage much.
>>540087642Goo is probably good for a new player actually, pretty forgiving with your goo save, and then rolling away if you over extend
>>540087382oh nice ty. I'm seeing that playing Dust 2 is possible.
>>540087886slorking my shit
>>540087642Goo is like the lowkey highest skill ceiling character, but not too hard to start playing.
>>540087859but WHY would you buy any weapon items that are not headhunter and utility stuff
>>540088037gun go pewI just followed a decent looking build idk. I felt super vulnerable though, it lacked green items
woah what the fuck calico is fungod I hate how ugly she is. it feels so good to land all your bombs on someone
>>540087886>slork banished to dust 2 purgatoryYoshi i will never forgive yuo
sometimes after sweating in deadlock I go play China Rivals and play like a fucking retard
>>540087886why stop at dust2
>>540088464This really puts into perspective just how far behind this game still is, it needs so much work everywhere.
>>540082250do you think he will be goo still?
>>540085730bro please start putting images on these posts
>>540088527not sure what you mean
>>540088527i don't get it, why
>>540088447why are you chinese
Theoretically, how would I go about fixing this?
Deadlock on the DotA 2 map would be kino...
>>540088586If he isn't then he better be something good. This game is only "closed alpha" in the sense that it's """"""""""""""closed alpha"""""""""""", this is like the most public, visible ""closed alpha"" of all time and at this point, despite it technically being in that phase they would alienate players if they did something like fuck up fan favorite gooboyimagine having a game where the players say things like "XYZ stopped being good in CLOSED ALPHA phase then Valve fucked it"
>>540088772>>540088786Old as fuck TF2 map still looks miles ahead of everything deadlock including the models just by applying the shading/skybox.
can I get a confirmation on how abrams 3 works? if I take 100 damage I'll end up regenerating 13% (or 13 damage) over 20s for 0.6 extra regen/second
>do good in lane>0/8 haze who went 3rd item blood tribute on my teamthis game is just handing me loss after loss today man
>>540088924That's icefrogs wet dream
>>540088901no but every time I have to give Netease admin privileges on my machine so they can run their (((anti-cheat))) I earn social credit like I am
>>540088586of course he will be goo stillthe question is how much of the WIP model got scrapped due to feedbackthey added back the eyes and removed the hat at least
>>540088958i mean that's just flat out wrong, the map looks about as dated as it is, lash is the best thing in that picand the current dl map is miles above that
Tt.tv /nyphal1sWhos this WHOREAnd does she have a penis
>>540085095Bullshit, dota is literally the game where the "me unga, team bunga" meme originated from.Most MOBAs in general are terrible solo.I do think there should be a solo-only queue, but that will almost never get implemented outside of Ascendent or w/e sweaty rank is near the top.So you'll be stuck laning against some autistic duo who are in the same discord VC while your lane partner is struggling to not lose connection on his shitty laptop on library wi-fi.
>>540088958The map has gone through source2 lightingThe regular map doesn't really look good at all.
>>540089174I see you anon
>>540089174nigger I don't knowgo ask your discord server
>>540089325:caught:
I love how I can do shit on Abrams and still contribute to the team later on in the game but if I do good on Abrams it's basically gg for the enemy team.
anyone NA or SA wanna duo? I've been onetricking Abrams and won 12 of my17 games on him on Alchemist 6152961441
>>54007026915 meters is VERY generous for something named "Point Blank." But it makes me do more gun damage and slows the enemy when I shoot at them. That's a win/win.
What is with the maximum level urn pussyness?If you have a doorman, and the doorman gets the 175 meter upgrade, YOU RUN THE URN EVERY TIME SHORT OF LOSING A WALKER.fucking RETARDS
>>540070269ViscousCHADS check in
Is it easy to mod this game? I'm a retarded when it comes to things like this but I want that sick Yamato mod skin.
>>540089619someone made an open source mod manager program that makes it braindead easy now
>>540089506sharpshooter is objectively better in every way
>>540070269extra regen because I'm always getting shot in lane :(
This is your teammate who is playing Mina. It was a rough 40 minute match that ended in a loss. Say something nice about them!
>>540070269my favourite early game powerspike
>>540089725>slows you down instead of slowing the enemy
>>540089725>trade move speed for sprint speed>only active at 15+ meters >item icon is way worsenawI don't even know what heroes want it besides Vindicta and Mirage. Maybe some meme gun build on Kelvin when you're ice skating a billion miles in the air?
>>540090128>1m/s move speed is too much to sacrifice in exchange for +70% gun damage at anything past sneeze range
>>540089568AGREED
>>540090184kelvin is better off with point blank for when you trap them in your cuck dome
>>540089875>This is your average build followerlol
>>540090330i think any build has spirit burn before transcendent cooldown
>>540070269this game got 200% more fun after I started buying this as my 2nd/3rd item in lane. not only does it save my ass all the time AND help me sustain and escape/confirm kills but it plays a nice satisfying ping sound and gives me a lot of moral satisfaction when people think they're gonna gank me with something. it even has good passive stats.
reminder: top damage is meaningless if you don't secure killshe lost btw
>>540090274For a lot of heroes it is because they will be playing within sneeze range or be forced into it.
how the fuck do you make bebop fun?>gunboring>bombdebuff remover
>>540088527wdym iut looks lovelyt. oldfag source
>>540090184carbine paradox loves sharpshooter. maybe a meme gun sinclair build because he naturally has sharpshooter built into his gun away to truly snipe people
>>54008950615 meters is actually shorter than you think. Average height of heroes is like 2.5m. This game has strange camera scale.
>>540090589hook characters will never be fun
>>5400702692025 still the besthonourable mention to arctic blast and majestic leap, my 2 favourites for the other item colours
>>540090589Majestic Leap Kamikazebop
>>540089108stinky
>>540090682carbine paradox is like playing shit gray talon
>>540090589Put aside your differences with the lash and throw him into the enemy with a bomb and an uppercut.
>>540090975except its really good at securing kills
>>540090975wall and swap are LE BAD now I see
>>540089568qrd
>>540091082yeah the owl doesn't do that at all>>540091263pretty much when you build for carbine
>>540090975carbine paradox is essentially hitscan, less obvious because she can charge before turning the corner and blasting someone, can use grenade to farm while still holding onto your nuke and has wall/ult utility. it's also a hybrid gun/spirit build so you don't instantly lose to spellbreaker
>>540090589I agree his gun sucks donkey dick but I think his hooks are pretty satisfying to land and he has a good followup combo. I love hooking somebody off bridge and them launching them 30 feet behind my guardian.
>Crush lane>Have a chance to win the game>Go neutral in lane>Low chance to win the game>Lose lane>95% guaranteed to lose gameWhy is it like this? Why do I /NEED/ to win my lane in order to have a decent chance at winning the game? Even going even in terms of souls means that my winrate plummets from 50/50 to maybe 25% at best.
>>540091373*parries ur owl**pollutes in a river**doesn't tip at the casino**a single tear runs down your cheek as I take walker*
>>540091373wall and swap inherently useful nigga, you don't need to "build" for them. wall does 9% max HP damage, silences and triggers tankburster's 5%., and swap displaces them. you can try to build build for is bomb but it is objectively worse than carbine
>>540091386then it's not carbine paradox but just a normal paradox build
>>540091403>>540090589Oh and his ult is like, okay. It's self CC so it will always be kind of ass. The giant "please stun me" beam.
>>540070269>overallSpirit Burn, just a very satisfying thing to have go off. Probably a bit too versatile with how it works on objectives, and a little too auto-take for most spirit burst characters but w/e.>SpiritSee above but runner up in this category goes to Merc Mag, I like how it lets characters that are more hybridize actually feel like their M1 is working together with their spirit items more.>VitalityMajestic Leap. I want more mobility items like this. There should be one that is like a straight line charge with a very short channel, takes you quite far quite fast and maybe it even works offensively in a similar fashion to Abrams charge.>WeaponSplit Shot. It's just fun to see the BRRRT, and obviously it can be a really strong item on a lot of characters.
>>540091524yeah but you need to be up close to get value from them. building shit like sharpshooter and express shot and whatever other crap for carbine makes for a fun meme build but essentially a shittier talon
>>540091294I got spell expansion and maxed out doorman's door earlyteam actively would refuse to fight over urn despite max range doorman door being roughly half the distance to urn dropoff, OR WORSE - WOULD ACTIVELY FIGHT NEAR URN BUT REFUSE TO COVER ME OR HEAVY MELEE THE GUY STEALING THE URNI end up turning an amazing early game into a fumble because retards won't get free urn every five minutesI even had a kelvin put up an ice bubble while I was about to go through the door because he was "saving me from mina", I reported him for griefing
>>540090401most don't I think the build that mina was using was the top daily build for her.
>>540091373the difference is that paradox kit, each ability enhances the other when combined together. It's really good game design, the way you go carbine stun -> wall -> swap, with a a bomb down. Nothing in talon's kit quite synergizes like that. Snare slow is nice but nowhere near as consistent as a hitscan carbine on short CD
>>540091679the range on swap is big enough that you can still shoot them with sharpshooter and get swaps. you can take a second to put up a wall before moving back into position because charging carbine speeds you up and isn't something you have up 100% of the time anywayI get GT mains don't understand the idea of "moving" or pressing more then 1 button every minute though so fair enough
>>540091774just scream into the mic, and if they mute you, get healbeam and repeatedly pull them away from killsdo not treat teammates like humans, they're a level above bugs and a level below rats
express or headhunter for gun abrams? he gets easy headshots after charge but charge also gives you time to get an express shot in their head instead>>540091774at least for me I just assumed you couldn't take urn through doors until reading these posts about it, did you actually say "hey lets do this"?
42979207that Vindicta is hacking, right? not my match
>>540091794how the fuck do most builds not do that when spirit burn is THE powerspike lmao
>>540091930wow this guy is super badass
>>540092023REPEATEDLY, I EVEN SAID I HAD THE MAX UPGRADE AND IT COVERED HALF THE MAPI even said they can hold it and ill doorman ult the heavy meleer that inevitably would be there
>>540091807yes, I'm aware, hence utilizing her kit to the max is the best way to play herbuilding just for carbine makes her a worse GT>>540091860swap range is fucking nothing until you max it. and if you play carbine you need to max carbine, then wall, so swap max doesn't even come online in most games
>>540092158what I mean is build have spirit burn on there but they don't tell you to rush it so people may not do that.
My favorite item? Why, the one I want to fuck of course (Enduring Speed, my footsu).
>>540092345i mean surely it's on the left side of trans cd at least. should be before boundless too but i guess some builds do it first
>>540092023I don't understand why shotgun characters aren't getting head hunter all the time
you shouldnt be able to parry holliday if she hit a barrel
>>540092463you have to land with the center pellet to actually proc headhunter now so unless you can literally shove the gun in their face you're often losing damage explicitly aiming for headshots on a lot of characters instead of going for the neck and hoping spread works it out for you
>>540092586>you have to land with the center pellet to actually proc headhunterwow fucking ingenious
>>540092586not true, it's how it works for resto shot/mystic shot but not HH since it's not a pellet it's just a proc on headshot
>>540091501Kill rewards went from almost zero, to game-deciding from just one simple change.Also sinners can go to hell. A lot of the early game issues stem from those getting uberpowercrept.
>bananas forever>10k bebop games>no public build?
>>540093358he just plays echoshard bomb
I cannot make gunbop work. I don't know why people say it's good. I never do any damage with it.I can easily carry with a real gun hero like haze wraith infernus though.
>>540093529>I cannot make gunbop workSame. His model is way too big to be a carry.
>>540093529gunbop is for spreading debuffs, not for damage. you can proc crippling headshot over and over for free
Me making my Goo Victor build to roll out at the next inhouse
>>540093529because you can never do anything as bebop other than be a hookbotevery build is just a hookbot in a different coat of paint
>>540093358he uses someone else's build and it works for him so he never bothered making one
>>540093665i need to come up with more broolcentric inhouse builds
>Do really well on Shiv in lane>Team sucks ass and doesn't follow up when I go in>LoseI love how he plays but I literally never get a good team when I play him. So I think I'll never touch him again.
>>540093529not being able to use stamina without resetting your gun is stupid.
>>540070269mercurial magnum or elephant rounds because the icon is funny
>>540094385>elephant roundskekmercurial magnum sounds edgekino as fuck, love it
>enemy infernus shittalking me like crazy in lane>hasn't been killing me or anything, I haven't been focusing him or doing anything out of the ordinary, I didn't die, we just lost tower and that's it>I do do decent by the end of the game and our team wins>infernus goes 1 7 3 with the least souls and his own team flames him in text chatWhat a strange experience.
>my only hero got taken by someone and i have to watch them play like shit and itemize badgross
>dogshit spirit ivy goes 1/7 taking all the farmstop you dumb fucker
>winning 1v1 against holliday>she desperation lassos me and just tries to run away with me stuck to her>she's slowed so she doesn't actually make it anywhere>bebop goes "I'LL SAVE YOU">hooks me away from her and saves her lifei fucking hate this stupid faggot robotwhy do people even play him anymore when he's been neutered in every aspect? i cannot remember the last time a game ended and i thought to myself "that bebop sure was impactful".
I still like gun Shiv. So long as his daggers do ticking damage, I WILL keep throwing on Bullet Resist Shredder, Mystic Slow, Hunter's Aura, Point Blank, and Crippling Headshot. I will NOT be beholden to my Rage meter. I WILL W+M1 and feed as soon as people realise that I am retarded and didn't build any sustain past Radiant Regen.
>>540092056downloading the replay but>44/8/5smells like a really good gaming chair to memost likely hacking, yes
>>540093936I wanted to join today’s inhouse and just buy all greens on a tank, but I seemed to miss both sessions
>>540095069sustain is for pussies
>>540080190he doesn't need all that
Shiv is such a braindead niggerape of a toon.
>>540096034wow, deep
How the FUCK do I farm on victor?
>>540094714What items would you purchase on The Doorman, anon?
>>540096263abandon lane and go boxing.
>>540096263Buy monster rounds -> cultist sacrifice and max your 2, you'll clear camps and waves well enough with your gun + 3
>>540096509What if there's a seven/wraith/haze/infernus/miku/ivy in the game?I can't even get to the camps before they kill them...
>>540096263you clear waves constantly given your retarded brooling pub teammates
>>540096263FARM THE FUCKING WAVES AND STOP JUNGLING
Your misery comp for the evening, 3 lightning scrolls btw.
>>540070269Love this nigga like you wouldn't believe
I'm 25-35 I'm so scared I'm not doing well enough I need to be better
Can I get a girlfriend if I play really well
What items do I get to make McGinnis gun do actual big damage?
>>540097413You don't. GunGinnis is dead.Long live SpiritGinnis.
>>540097335if theres a paige egirl on your team
>>540097621Support Paige is too complicated for egirls.Pressing 8 buttons is too hard for them.
>>540096263ignore waves and farm players
>>540096352whatever this is
I'm getting better at the game but I'm playing with a bunch of first time moba players and I'm not used to talking in the first place and not really used to trying to wrangle people and make calls. I want to improve but it feels uncomfortable trying to be firm with calls especially because I don't want to cause unproductive fighting.
Holy shit icefraud destroyed nadedox, it was a meme build back then already...
This shit is fucking warcimes. For reference Billy and I went 4-0 in lane
>>540097901>0/9 haze>2/6 vyper who's also rage quitSeems like one of the matches of all time.
>>540097901I hope they nerf Cultist, I don't like using it. I feel compelled to go to the nearest T3 camp if I ever spot it on cooldown rather than just do whatever would be most efficient at that time, and sometimes I'll notice it on cooldown and feel bad.
>>540098098well that's what you do with midas so i do that tooi haven't played dota since shrines got added and talents tho
>>540096703Then you buy fleetfoot and farm the enemy jungle instead, you'll need gamesense to know when you can but it's very easy for you to go in, clear a camp or two, and gtfo even with someone hassling you
what items help to heavy melee cancelfleetfoot and colossus only?
I feel like Victor and Drifter are kinda shit right now...Think they're gonna revert the nerfs?
>>540098384
The more dotaslop mechanics they straight up port, the less fun and more frustrating deadlock gets.
Apparently Sinclair has a new skin or look in the works? Someone got a picture or link to it?
Bebop is not fun.Pudge is fun.I demand a refund.
I haven't played the game in half a year can I still spirit Lash and postpone ever learning how to aim
>>540099124Spirit lash is his best version currently, go for it champ
>>540098510Okay?I haven't been scared of either of them or even really noticed they exist in weeks.
>>540099195Hell yeah fuck playing half the game
>>540098510drifter and victor are 50-48% WR in archon and above. that being said, I think drifter is actually perfect balanced atm, only victor might need some tuning (but not much because he becomes annoying when he comes online)
do you take extra damage on hits that knock you off the zip or something?i've killed someone from super far away before when they were escaping with like 50 HP but there's no way i did that much damage from that far.
>>540070269it's a very simple item but i love stamina mastery, kinetic dash is also great. i also love picrel's reference
>>540099391they could probably do something to smooth out victor's scaling so he isn't total dogshit early game but a 1v5 monster lategame.all his 5 point ability upgrades are fucking stupid insane.
>finally played my first game>1 guy on my team never connectedhow do i play abrams? i didn't realize how slow his reload is
>>540089108i like the idea of goo looking like a tourist it's cute but i cannot see him as a fat fuck nor do i think the pants-but-no-shirt looks works either (especially with his current voice)
>rejuvinate >hands are off keyboard
>>540099738They would need to first make his 3 do less self damage or give him inherent spirit resist (base or increase with boon). Otherwise, he will always be ass before 25 minutes
>>540100015He's a rare case of per-round reload, use that to your advantage
>>540100015charge an enemy into a wall and start spamming melee, and pray they dont know how to parry
>>540100095fat bear
>>540089108he needs a fanny pack, not the dynamo satchel.
>>540075676Playing goo ball build is horrible.
This is what Yamato will look like in 2028 when the game releases to the public.
>>540100015you punch.
>>540100015 >>540100525then punch some more.
>>540099058pudge player here that just installed on saturdayplay doorman https://streamable.com/pkwtml (skip to 0:30)
If I wanted to go Melee Doorman, how would I build him? I feel tempted to play a build where I go around slapping people to finish them off after Bell Nuking them.
>top daily lash build from "rank 1 lash">doesn't have boundless spirit...huh
>>540100015kinetic dash essentially fully reloads a shotgun because it puts 8 shots back into your magazine every dash jump
what's the trick to getting the most speed when using shiv M2 while sliding? I know you need burst fire item wise but there's some trick to how you move and aim the shots right?
>>540101182>but there's some trick to how you move and aim the shots right?Aimbot
can someone who isn't schizophrenic or a bot able to answer my question? cheers
PARTY QUEUE IS SO FUCKING BORING FORCED SOLO QUEUE WHEN?
>>540101610just get some friends chud
>haze>seven>victor>mikuYes, I do love farming, thanks for noticing
>>540101651KILLING THE FUCKING GAME WITH SMURFING AND PARTY QUEUES STOMPING GAMES
Valve should add a fox hero with a sex motif to deadlock.
has anyone managed to actually respond to a midboss and actually contest it a single time in the past week or so? that shit dies instantly now so i don't even get why it has an alert sound anymore.
This probably sucks, but rate Hybrid Gun/Barrage Build11 kills, 2nd highest on team
>>540070269This item unlocks FUN mode.
>>540101610mm_prefer_solo_only true
>>540100920Spirit burn or reverb are better to get before boundless. Boundless is fine if you have one of those items or both and still need more damage.
>>540098803this but the opposite
There's too much fucking shit on me
>>540103710how embarrassing
>Cringeginnis rushes healing tempo and heroic aura>Abrams gets phantom strike earlyYes "fun"
nerf kelvin
grabbing a teammate right before they die and tossing them to safety really activates my almonds
THEY'RE LITERALLY THE SAME CHARACTER HOW
>>540104748Grey Talon is much stronger at the momentVindicta isn't BAD, but GT was like pick or ban in that pro game
>>540104748GT is just so much better than Vindicta currently it's not even funny.
this nigger buys 2 spirit items and 2 green items and has the most health in the game, does infinite healing, does infinite damage, and has the best ult in the hands of someone who isn't retarded
>>540103242mystic reverb is an ass item
>>540104748GT just does assloads more damage + he barely needs to aim
I just had a 55 minute game where my team had a player advantage of 6v5 with a rejuv and we still lost because they refused to push objective and milked to the enemy Mirage of all characters. I know I'm getting paired with new players but good lord, this game made my blood boil.
>>540105686how are you still in initiate lobbies
>>540106006I dunno. I've had ridiculous win streaks of like 6-7 games in a row and I'm still in Initiate I. I believe the matchmaking system just throws you in random pools rather than try to enforce any type of skill based criteria.
can we just buff antiheal? early game if you're a non gun character you just can't do shit against certain heroes even with healbane, or buff decay so it feels like it's actually a tier 3
who is spiritual overflow even good on at this point, nigfernu?
>>540104748>they both go up>this makes them the same character
the build I use tells me to buy an item (You) say is bad, so I'm buying the item.
I just need a chill hero to play, no matter how tilt inducing the game gets this hero is always fun. who is this
>>540107586the lashpocketdoorman if you enjoy the misery of othersholliday
>>540089325>chrome
>>540107586If you get mad when you lose a video game that is a personal psychological defect you need to remedy yourself.
>>540107109>skillshot ability that goes in a straight line>goes up>aoe movement disable>long range execute
>>540108076i get mad when i play with a braindead team. you cant tell me this doesnt happen to you
>>540108076i wouldnt say i get mad, but when >>540108143happens i just mentally check out completely and stop trying
>>540108231who do you play? cause i play all in heroes like abrams and shiv, but when i dont have my team following up despite me telling them im going in. i just get frustrated.
>>540108123>fireball>uppercut>spinning kick that puts them in the air>crouching medium kick
>>540108143It doesn't. I understand everyone has bad days and it's just a game, and that "giving up" results in stunted skill growth and contributes to your future losses. Why do you choose to let yourself get mad over something that has zero impact on the world? You need to reassess yourself and keep that ego in check.
are you winning your cucklock games, son?
>>540107586anyone with good wave clear and escape
>nobody ever uses pings when I owl>post match rating is oracleoracle honestly seems worse than archon in terms of skill and more importantly, comms
i actually think i cant do NA lobbies anymore. I fucking HATE how much casual conversation and unnecessary they use comms to talk about dogshit
>>540109004come to EU then where no one speaks english and you got names in cyrilic giving up after their first death (17 are on the way)
>>540089325Basado
>Overprotective Dynamo in laneComfy
getting a little bored of deadlock, bros...
>>540107586paradox, shiv and sinclair because no matter how bad the game gets you'll think about that one time you totally ganked some guy or did a crazy juke
Is there any reason to max out abrams ult over this third anymore? Since rejuv isnt a singular thing either.
They need to either un-nerf Bomb Bebop or make Split Shot display properly with his laser so the gun build stops feeling like shit to play.
kek
>>540109472but I thought my healing nades were you favorite :(
>>540109472How about getting coddled by Paige?
>>540109772>test it to see what anon is talking about>the multishot isn't aligned properly and the laser rapidly wiggles aroundYeah they actually need to fucking fix this for GunBop
>>540109929Im biased because I had Dynamo partner three games in a row
>>540109772They need to make sure Bebop is bad because the game is worse when Bebop is good
>>540109929go away tranny
>>540110090Yeah, okay Reddit. No one cares what you think though or else they would have hard capped Bebop's bomb stacks by now. Which a bunch of said redditoids squealed like little pigs for Icefrog/Valve to do.
I just how slow they made all of bebop's animationsKeep all the other nerfs just revert the animation speed nerfs.
>>540109616Me too, mostly because of mina. Fucking downplaying faggots. Probably should just take a break until next update
>>540110079>it's worse than I thought>I thought it was the same as all the other Split Shots but invisible>but no, the whole fucking thing is just FUCKED from start to finish
>>540110310Mina is way easier to counter than any of the other meta heroes rn they just need to nerf spirit burn cheese
how do I play yamato? i do no damage, die instantly, and end up underfarmed
You ever just go full zen mode in this game, and just dominate? I played a 50 minute match as Doorman and I felt unstoppable, I didn't even look at the timer until I was 45 minutes in. I feel like I became the Doorman. Very good game, I don't feel I'm gonna top that game in a while.
Please explain to me why can't I see ranks on the score screen?
>>540110846You have to enable it in Options, idiot.
i am now a gun doorman enthusiast
>>540110310>Fucking downplaying faggotsDidn't you faggots laugh at us Mina main for being the "weakest" and most "useless" among all the new release heroes?Didn't you retards repost the win rate constantly whenever we claim Mina is not bad?You have made your bed, now lie in it
Deadlock was more fun a year ago
>its another episode of "sitting on 13k souls unable to buy fucking anything because all 3 walkers are still up"this game seriously needs an ARAM mode so all of these brooling niggers can fuck off already
>>540111171I will always take an opportunity to make fun of you.>>540111020What build did you go for? I love my bell too much to commit to a full on gun loadout but I'm curious to see.
>>540111278Why not take out the walkers yourself?
When your team is down you're supposed to farm, right? How do I farm my side of the map when an invisible bitch with a stun that leads to a free guaranteed kill is running around at mach speed?Do i have no choice but deathballing?
>>540111527Buy metal skin and run away to a teammate if she pops up
>>540109929need a healslut paige to lane with
Get me outGet me outGet me out
>>540111475NTA>try to rat a walker>get collapsed on by 4-5 people>none of the brooling nigger teammates take one of the other walkers in the meantime cause the idea of shooting objectives gives them physical pain
>>540111692She also had silence wave so that won't work unless I also have a Debuff Remover and so that's 6.4k souls I have to spend that I can't afford because as mentioned I am trying to farm. What do? I genuinely want to figure this out, please don't give a "git gud" or "don't feed her in the first place" answer. She is a terrorist.
Infernus is 100% the most carried character right now
>>540080226Here jew go: https://gamebanana.com/sounds/82103
>>540111967I get the feeling. I play a lot of support so I invest heavily on Spirit or Gun and go unload a clip on a Walker and leave. Patiently wait for the opportunity to take it out. Farm while the troops arrive to attempt again. Usually buy surivival items that I later sell in mid game for more damage. The point is to put pressure on a Walker and either distract a bunch of enemies to go and tend to it or just chip damage the damn thing until it dies. I'm not saying it's the most interesting mid game but if my team is that incompetent, I just have to endure.
>>540109729i feel like putting any points in his ult before maxing his 1-3 is throwing, yes even the 1 point cooldown. his ult gets cucked by so many things and takes so long to come out that outside of that once a game escape/extra CC its just not worth pressing at all
>>540110893where?
>>540112109that is maurice and krilliam thoughever
>>540112201Doing that isn't always possible. Matter a fact most times it isn't.
>Fix my winrate with Abrams>Immediately go back to losing games with BebopI wish he weren't so bad because I love him, but god damn he is SO bad.
>>540112327
One hero+item build for split pushing that even a retard can pull off, please
>>540113297going veil walker and hooking people is funny as fuck
I will never understand the appeal of smurfing, like you have to have been raped as a kid to crave some form of control like that there's no other explanation
>>540113859its like people who play a game on hard mode and when they hit a wall they cheat instead of lowering the difficulty
>>540113859i smurf. i wasn't raped as a kid, but i did rape you in the game you just played. bark, dog
>another 40 minute snoozefest
>>540114003>bark, dogRecalling your uncle's lines?
>>540114309make sure to wipe the shit stains off your chair! this much seethe cannot be good for the human soul :)
>>540112324Yeah seriously. Hit ult also makes him a big target in the air.
>>540114463Reddit tier comeback, go back
Valve seriously needs to add my hero idea into the game.>B-But all fan heroes are shit!Mine isn't.>E-Everyone says that-No, mine is actually good.
>>540115342
>>540115035>the guy crying about smurfs thinks he's not the reddit onekek
>>540115342Wrong. Only mine is good. Now die.
>>540113414Splitpushing is basically the same strategy amongst all the herosThe best split pushers have and escape + gun stim(like wraith)but you can do it with anyone with an escape. Items that are good, >Heroic Aura(for buffing your wave)>alchemical aura(for shredding tower)>long range(can get the bonus damage while staying at max range of tower for ez escape)>non-condintional fire rate items for general dps>shadow weave so you stay hidden from minimap and delay the rotation Actually I totally forgot that spirit works now so actually they dont all work the same
>>540112608Nah its definitely Mina with the free walker buttonMo is high iq health resource management. The people that complain about him cant play him and dont know what they are talking about
>>540115603>be me>make smurf>lose all 4 games in initiate 1 so far
>>540115712but sir you think you are a woman
God I can already tell lash is the biggest nigger faggot hero possible>absolute useless faggot on your team>absolute annoying fuck on the teamHis ult should also only grab 3 players max
I hope all the random side rooms are getting the same touch up treatment that the bank got, but what a weird room to do first.. dont think ive ever seen a fight in there or used it to juke or rotate or anything
>>540116475Which room is the bank
>>540116612
>>540115779Alchemical Fire you mean? I see that that's less effective on towers, still good?What about this garbage? Would you swap anything around?
>>540116708oh yeah. I never stopped to look around but I remember popping in a few times and being like "oh shit this walk is going to kill me Hey why does it look so cool in here"
>>540116708Might be prep for the new objective, its a capture point so I could see a bank robbery type capture point
>>540116906why do people never go movement items on wraith
>>540117029Majestic leap is right there
>>540117069why would that be good on wraith?
>>540116708These areas are 100% getting more in the future.
Waiting for ARAM implementation.
>>540117029do you go blink dagger on fucking anti mage you stupid retard
>>540116475I like em because nobody ever goes there so you get free jukes and a couple of boxes to go
>>540116906Maj leap ain't great because you cant use it to run, rest seems fine maybe consider boots since there is a lot of sprinting between lanes
>>540117161idk why not, what would be better
>>540117321no but boots you subhuman also yea people went blink on am even someone like Miracle-
What do I buy and sell lategame as Paige? My active item slots fill up by midgame. I got rid of heroic aura this time, and got a refresher. That felt pretty good. Is that what I'm supposed to do? I had 9k souls in the bank by the end of the game... Maybe I should sell Trophy Collector? Ohhh, I also bought Scourge for the first time ever. I didn't really see it do anything, though, even when I put it on Abrams.
>guy vaccums the entire lane for the entire game >keeps feeding all his farm awayWhat do you do there?
>>540117393boots are 800 gold that's nothing, not really buying or building anything.her TP has like a 13ish second cooldown mid/late game
>>540117597>didnt post your buildsupport sissy.....
>>540116013Nope, I am a biological man with a cock and balls.
>>540115987It's more than health resource management, that hero does no fucking damage unless you've been fed to hell and back (doesn't happen against human players)
>>540117690This is what I had at the end of the game!
>>540117845you could upgrade to juggernaut for attack speed reduction if youre ever getting shot at during fights
>>540117845Is there a reason for trophy collector and enduring speed? Could have just gone silencer or disarm.
>>540118130I like running fast...
If I could change one thing about this game it would be to make all heroes be able to slide at their base move speed.
>>540117845>>540117981you could also sell your knockdown for curse
help >>540110608
>>540118161Yea, but you're already sitting behind everybody, why not buy support items?
>>540116708Where is that?
>>540118213Is Curse better than Knockdown? Knockdown is a staple item of mine. I get it every game.
>>540118225win lane, buy damage items, dont die, aggressively farm to maintain lead cause you cant die
>>540118318side room by one of the left-side walker (idk which side)
how do you play characters and builds that require 4 active items
>>540118337no knockdown is 100% better.
>>540118391you need an mmo pro gamermouse. don't forget the bullets.
>>540118337if they have defensive items like vampiric burst, ethereal shift, etc then yeah it's definitely way better. It also silences them so they really jsut cant play the game. If anyone jumps them you can curse them. They're both good though. I also dont think scourge is that good unless you have a victor or mo on your team. Maybe you could sell knockdown for arctic blast as well if set up your combo faster, bit riskier to be close enough to do that though
>streamer build>nobody goes silence wave slowing hex arcane surgeor or anythingonce this games out, nobody will remember the current streamers.
>>540118837slowing hex is not good nigga
>>540118837builds are a meme in general. every hero basically just has like ~10-15k worth of core items + 6k items that synergize well with the kit. everything else is situationalpeople in general are ignoring active items, way too much, active items are what enable gameplans and also stop enemies from doing theirs. everyone should buy at least 1 active to counter enemies but people dont
>>540118882When half the cast has a get out of jail free card it's pretty good for an effective 800 souls
>>540119128>people in general are ignoring active items, way too much, active items are what enable gameplans and also stop enemies from doing theirs. everyone should buy at least 1 active to counter enemies but people dontI feel like that's the case, all the streamer builds don't have any cheap active items like literally making the playerbase learn the game wrong.
How do I learn to farm apart from watching random games and hoping to spec someone who knows what they're doing? I would work it out from first principles but I don't know what those principles are.
>>540119128Active items are inconvenient in a game where I also need to rebind crouch and ultimate.
>majestic leapif im playing pocket do i use this to engage before dumping my combo and leavingto my understanding you can play them very hit and run and ive heard ML is a good item on them so i wanna make sure my intuition as to why it's good/how to use it is correct
>>540118391i rebound them to Z C E 5 and i find it comfy.generally i use z for defensive items (metal skin, return fire), 5 for items when i wanna ult (like infuser or unstoppable). c for core actives (echo shard), e for counters (knockdown, silence)but C is my comfort key for both echo shard and alch fire so sometimes i get them mixed up
>>540119257Go watch a high level pocket replay
>>540117340why can't you use majestic leap to run?>card away>if successful, confirm the escape with a leap into africa
I'm glad people are starting to realize how braindead heroes like Lash and Mo are (although Mo is far more braindead than Lash) Early on in this general and the community in general people larped like they were skillful when in reality they're pretty cheese, I guess Lash gets a pass cause he's a lot easier to counter.
>>540119257pocket has a lot of synergy with leap, but the main uses are:>map mobility>leap and hover with barrage to easily stack amp>leap for good ult angles>leap escape out of briefcase if you can manage to be out of combat with it long enough
>>540117845>spirit Paige
>>540119372mo is actually dogshit if you play him like intended (running people down with burrow)he's op because he can do anything he wants and have 0 risk because you can run away with burrow.in lane he's a non-entity but you also cant push him out because qsr scorn
how do floor targeted abilities work vertically? what determines if i am actually hitting someone with sinclair hex when they are flying above it
>>540119372Who has ever said that MnK take skill
>>540119829Me.
At its max, Doorway can skip from the healing room almost to your team's guardian.
>>540120402Add arcane surge and you can get from midboss to spawn
Krill canonically fucks Mo in the butt, this is obvious once you read between the lines of their lore.
Rescue beam feels like shit to use, I hate that item
>>540118882>use slowing hex on mina>blow her up in the duration it lasts because she's made of paper and can't bat awaynah, it has its uses. mostly on warden though
>>540120435Do you boost before the first door or the second door for the extra range? Also, can the first door be used as cover?
S1 spam spirit Ivy feels so good for something I know isn’t optimal.
>>540109472>lane partner paige getting lit up>jump in front of her and block enemy shots with my big bellyfeels good
>mo on magic carpetsends my sides into orbit every time
>>540120646Could but it's impractical.
proccing love bite is so satisfying
>enemy shittalking>start getting a little miffed>remember that I'm shit, therefore it doesn't matter and he didn't accomplish anything
>>540121260I don't think I've ever heard of anyone weaponizing their low self-esteem
>>540121260It's literally the enemy's team's fault whenever you or your teammates do poorly.
>kill 4 enemies>ping to take boss>dont do boss and linger around blue walker>all die>enemy takes mid bossi dont think this semen slurping game is for me
>tier 3 towers are weaker than tier 2 towersWhy though?
>>540121537Why not just push while the enemy is gone?
evens chickfila and sinclairodds mcdonalds and seven
I can't even tell if I'm good or decent anymore matches are so inconsistent and the rank badge basically means nothing when the game ends, I'll hard carry an Oracle game then get gangraped by a coordinated death squad in a Ritualist lobby. I have to assume there's a stack problem on top of the already shit matchmaking as well cause frequently I'll get matches were there are just 3-4 buttbuddies following each other around all match while my team gets picked off 1 by 1.
>>540120646You need to boost before you put down each door
>>540120565Every single time I've built slowing hex she just buys debuff remover and is immune to stuns all game, it actually feels worse to play against when you force her into that item
>>540121578They don't want last minute stalling, after you get the walkers you’re meant to steamroll for the most part. It’s why the last towers and the patron room just aren’t threatening at all.
>>540121678The jungle was up bro! Gotta get souls!!!!!
what build do i go on dynamo
>>540122158STOMP STOMP STOMP arcane surge
Why don't we have dagon item that is just pure burst damage, and maybe stacks with every kill you get
>>540122158If youre anywhere but the top just build around your ult. Empower with cooldown reduction, aoe increase, get items like warp stone or phantom strike to initiate it. Then refresher when you feel your ult is good enough. Arcane surge definitely good like that other guy said, for ALL your abilities too.
Anons yesterday told me to stop playing utilityAre Mina or Vindicta carries? Aim is not a problem.
why my drifters are never good but the enemy ones are always M1 carries raping objectives and allies alike?
Oh, I just know that a RANCID loss streak is about to happen.
>>540123280Mina has no carry potential.
>>540123138How do you do the Bell do anything? It was so ridiculously weak even with full itemization exclusively for spirit damage on it and it still was extremely underwhelming.These days I'm just running gun on him.
>>540123467I wish it was like an actual coinflip every match it's more like you win a bunch of baby easymode games then get relentlessly raped for 10 games in a row
>>540123280mina's more like a qop
>>540123467>check my latest matches>won 9 out of 16>half of my wins didn't even count because someone left the match100 hour is and I am still Initiate 4 somehow
What compels Billy players to fight 3 people, get parried, die, respawn, zip to that same lane, fight the same 3 enemies, get parried again, and die again.
>>540124014Must brool, you wouldn't understand.
>>540123138>Mina talking
>Alchemist 6>Encounter a streamer with an entire stack>He still needs to rat like a little bitch in order to scrape out a winWhat a cuck.
>>540124014you have to melee to get your ammo back and it's very easy to accidentally heavy melee
>>540124014The brawl ruse was a distaction. I HAVE the splitpush.>>540124150Splitpushing is playing the objective stupid cat
>>540124206I know, I play Billy. I just don't understand the part where other Billy players would chase 3 people to fight and then die.
>>540123908Just learn Abrams, it's what I did to escape pisslow (to slightly higher pisslow)
>>540124292when you start feeding a certain itch to get kills overtakes you and it leads you to foolish places
>>540123280I wouldn't play Mina, not even the top players can 1v11 with her
>>540124292sometimes I go in and then I can't get out
>>540123280>>540123574>>540124460>>540123857mina is extremely overpowered wtf these niggas smoking, she can solo every obj in the game
>>540124292Running towards the enemy is praxis
>>540123574>>540123857>>540124460what are some FVARKING carries then?>>540124646I was under that impression too
>>540124712haze and seven
>>540124646maybe in fantasyland where your enemies never make an attempt to stop youalso taking walkers doesn't win the game sadly, if that's the only thing you contribute while your team gets run over 5v6 teamfights, you'll losehence she can't 1v11
>>5401248781v11 is a fucking meme anyway, only extremely out of place smurf tier mmr is that ever going to happenpretending that being able to instakill walkers without immediate response is not a carry is stupid. Her ult also helps a lot in teamfights too
>>540117029Her sprint scales with spirit and she has a teleport
next up they'll make the game 5v5 instead of 6v6, it's too crowded as is
>>540124150You still lost to him and his merry men so whats the point?
Hot off the presshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-35_JN0R14
>>540125256>pretending that being able to instakill walkers without immediate response is not a carry is stupidobjective cheesing isn't carrying>Her ult also helps a lot in teamfights toolol
>>540125423Would improve the game unironically
>>540125256A carry is a hero that can clean up team fights.
>>540124297thats what i did but it doesn't matter because the matches i am actually winning someone on the other team quits. sometimes someone in my team quits too lmao
For /dlg/'s pleasure.
>>540124646Every non-support hero can solo every obj in dota, retard.
>>540070269I main Dynamo
>>540125692right side should be spirit
>>540070269I like playing Abrams and Billy.Are there even other melee characters in this game?
>>540125896whoops
>>540125937Yamato. She has the highest base melee damage too
>>540124712Play warden, buy majestic leap + fleetfoot + enduring speed, win every teamfight and solo carry the game
>>540125937I see Calico melee a lot so I assume she is
>Try to play support / spirit hero>Carries refuse to push objectives >Play a carry >Try to farm up and pressure objectives>Feeding teammate (usually a Billy or Drifter) comes to my lane to try to coax me into ganking with them, they do 0 damage and instantly die Kino
>>540125692i know it technically doesnt have resistance but plater armour is good for bullet heavy carries
>>540125468>Six randos lost to a streamer and his stack...yes? Do you expect people in alchemist 6 to be able to beat a smurfing streamerstack?
CASUALS WON BIGLYMOBATARDS LOST
>>540125692Would reccomend including soul cost so you can see which are more cost efficient but otherwise, thank you>>540125937Drifter,beebop, goocifer(vicious), Paige also has a weird melee build There is more you can make work but all those have melee specific interactions
>>540070269My adaptable beloved
>>540126670who is this tranny and why should I care about xem opinion
>>540126670>CASUALS WON BIGLY>MOBATARDS LOST
>>540126670troons really have a high opinion of themselvescasually forgetting they've made this a moba to begin with
>>540126909>xem opinionWhy are ESLs obsessed with queers?
>>540126909reputable-ish leaker who said yesterday that valve was working on a casual gamemode with ARAM vibes
>>540127123I was all for a casual mode but now I've realised that you might get the modern tf2 audience and I hope they make this game twice as sweaty.
>hate melee>like Abram’s kithmmm
>>540127624you can just shoot them instead of holding Q and getting parried
>>540127624Abrams is for all-purple build anyways
>>540127372how would a bunch of friendly hoovies and yiffing hat collectors make this game more competitive?
I'm tired of this game already.
>>540127372>>540127901oh wait nvm you meant they make the game sweaty to deter the TF2 players
>>540122035I had a funny game where Mina was really killing our team, I bought slowing hex and first time I see her she dies (first death all game). While dead she bought debuff remover like 5 seconds after she died. We won that game btw.
I tire of infernus and haze, draft an't come soon enough
>>540128234If only there was items that slowed their fire rate ... if only one of these items was only 800 souls...
>>540128710woah now they rape me after 4 insead of 3 seconds. I know I need to buy like 2 3200 items for them to wait a bit before killing me
>>540126785>Would reccomend including soul costThat's what the tier are for
>>540128776Yeah rather than try to counterbuy you should just whine and bitch and beg for nerfs so you get raped harder
As a shooter enjoyer it is funny how apparently every Moba developer admits the balance is dogshit by letting people ban like five characters before anyone gets to pick a character.Draft mode sounds prissy too. Won't it add like 5 minutes of thumb-twiddling before each game? Games are long enough imo
>>540128923Sry im retarded, seems like conditional is the way to go imo
>>540127009Why are you projecting?
>>540129123It's not for balance but strategy.
Holy fucking shit nerf Mcginnis at the very least her early game>Can never push because she spams turrets and has her wall>Doesn't even have to invest in her gun early because it already does great damage>If you die or let wave get too pushed in your tower is just gone Genuinely one of the most miserable heroes to play against, I'm so tired of tanky characters also being able to shred me and my objectives
>>540126670Does autism mean fun to this guy
>>540129182It's for variety for the Twitch spectators more than it is for strategy for the eAthletes.
>>540128710unironically retardedeverytime you dare to call out these dishonest nigger heroes>erm buy item that’s a slight inconvenience just say you are a contrarian cumlow faggot
>>540129295The alternative is Victor who is literally useless until 30k souls.Neither are in a healthy state.
deadlock? more like deadgame LMAOa moba where the characters have 1 viable build each, no thinking require, no decision making, no strategy, just pick an OP character and brawl all game, don't use ur brain even onceyeah, it's dead jim, I'm going back to dotes
>>540129416Wrong again. Drafting and draft planning is the most strategic part of mobas
New player, what’s a character with really strong early sustain so I don’t have to grab healing rite every single damn game?
>>540129516If you have a problem with haze or infernus, you are the cumloe
>>540129670McGinnis, Moe and Krill, Abrams, Shiv, and Dynamo
>>540129552That's depressing. Don't say that.
>>540129670The options a pretty limited, regen, melee lifesteal, resto shot, in very niche circumstances the cheapo spirit lifesteal which i cant remember
Boy I love how Abrams and Billy can combo me from full health to dead in less than 2 seconds at minute 2.Laning sure is balanced!
Healing Rite: BetaExtra Regen: AlphaMelee Lifesteal: Sigma
>>540129813It's fine, you didn't seem to understand the purpose of draft to begin with so I doubt you understand much of moba strategy in general.
>>540129908Press F to pay respects.
>>540129908"how do I counter a stove" tier post
>how it feels to watch a speedy Dynamo rush out of the corner and roll into your team
this game needs at least like 3 more years of beta so it's not a complete brainless brawler, zero fun to be had here
>>540129990I've been watching some of those History of Dota videos for some reason. I get the gist. Every year has a different set of X amount of horrendously OP characters and you have to ban them or risk the other team picking them before you get to pick them. And them sometimes you pick a character you're not great at just to deny the enemy that character cuz they have someone on the team who is the best in the world as them. Shit like that. It's not that deep.
>>540130204>Silence Wave him>Slowing hex him>Knockdown himCompliments of the Baroness you fat fuck!
>>540130006>>540130128I pressed F.Both of them feinted perfectly and then continued their combo.
>>540129690>no youno how about you kill yourselfthere’s something called finding a hero annoying
>>540130276>It's not that deepIf you're a tourist with knowledge from a few youtube videos, yes it can seem like that.
I wish I was good at Victor, but I just can't make him work. I can never seem to get ahead on farm, and a Victor playing from behind is a terrible experience.I push lanes, hit boxes, hit small camps while the lane is pushed, everything. I just can't get ahead. He's so goddamn slow.
>>540130343Next time press S and maybe add Shift in the mix
>>540130464What a worthless, snooty post! So what I described doesn't happen? All those 100% contest rate characters were a dream? Don't bother replying unless you have something informative to add, because the fart-huffing is just sad.
>>540130678You have to go gun unironically, his 3 is ass before 50k souls and his 1 cant farm for shitJust go for early game gun powerspikes like swift striker->burst fire and tho I've not tried it tesla is probably good to patch up his weak clear
>>540130764You're tunneling onto the first picks and thinking that's all there is to the drafting.
What is a good hero to play when ISP is throttling my internet?
>>540130959Another useless post where you allude there's depth but are conveniently incapable of explaining to any meaningful degree.>inb4 "You're not worth my time" *snifffff*Then just link to some writeup.>>540130970Grey Talon
>>540129908parry if you are lagging too hard to do that then euthanize.
>>540130884Yeah, but if I do that his 2 is underpowered.
>>540131148I'm telling you to go watch more videos or research yourself before you talk. I'm not interested in lecturing retards who most likely are not willing to listen.
>>540131163Parry was much better when the enemy couldn't feint heavy melee.It needs half the cooldown or no cooldown at all.
can they just make a carry that doesnt look like penis alreadycmon valve
>>540131216Lmao called it. You can't help yourself. And you're not making a convincing argument it's worth 'researching' for. Christ sake I literally said I would accept a blogpost or a youtube article and you can't even do that much, that shows you've got nothing. That's a concession if there ever was one. Literally trying to extend olive branches and learn but you just have a stick up your ass about it.
Mystic slow on Ivy is useless right?
>>540131451I have better things to do with my life than look for draft explanations for newbies.Look it up yourself, it's the era of LLMs where even mouthbreathers can use them to do research/learning
>>540131617>I have better things to do with my life thanthat line doesn't pass muster when you're this many replies deep. truly you could've saved yourself a lot of time here if you just had the confidence to give explaining a shot.
>>540131343Is it true americanski wear hats and shoes inside their house
just go play marvel rivals and brawl all day, nigger
>>540131863i'd wear a hat too if my hair was like that
Oops, got a green arrow on a hero I don't even have a positive winrate on, now I can't play as them because I'll be thrown against Eternus players / in Eternus lobbies. Bravo Valve, the fact this game is a playtest is irrelevant, stacks get put against solos all day, the report smurf button does nothing, and the average lobby rank has been proven to be a lie time and time again (almost like you're hiding how dogshit it is) you would think after years of competitive games they'd have this shit at least a LITTLE figured out. I should have learned from CS I guess.
>>540093529Bepop is universally dogshit rn. Just build utility and Hook. You have better version of Paradox ult that doesn't place you in the middle of the enemy team on like a 10 sec cooldown. Just abuse that, since I basically never see bepop going over 30k damage on any build
I can tolerate going against fed carries because you can usually still CC them down or just gangrape them but holy fuck every time a tanktard gets fed it's absolutely miserable, I'd take going against a Haze or Mina that has 10k on me versus an Abrams or a Mo anyday.
>>540131982>an alpha has bugs / faulty systemswhat. the. fuark.
>>540131885Holy crashout
Deadlock balancing in nutshell
>>540131191Shit idk then, maybe go tesla then pivot into a cdr build. The tesla is affected by cdr and it stacks multiplicatively.Also most the items are spirit/vitGun>spell slinger(6400)Vit>enchanters emblem(1600)>witchmail(6400)Spirit>compress cooldown(1600)>superior cooldown(3200)>echoshard(6400, probably skip this one)>scourge(6400)>transcendent(6400)Just tesla and spellslinger will put you at the 9.6k level for the value stats
>>540132463True except there is an rpg Gary could buy but doesnt because he rushes sniper instead
dead game
>>540131490no
>>540131982implying even eternus players get eternus lobbies
marvel rivals is as dumb and boring as this game but you can goon the characters, this game is a straight up downgrade
There's a bug where Doorman's trolley still displaces enemies with the unstoppable effect as long as the trolley touches a door.
worship your vampire carry queen.
>>540133119get grabbed idiot
>>540132463What game was this pic originally referring to?
>>540133193*ults you* nothing personal
>>540132463/thread
>>540122097There's a bit of clever game design with the first phase of the patron in that you have to look up to hit it, thus shifting your view away from enemies who might be trying to stop you.But with how sieging the base works, you'll never actually commit to the patron unless you have a numerical advantage, which renders the design pretty moot.
>>540122097>They don't want last minute stallingI dislike that there's a time when one time fight means the game is over, and you can't do anything about it, there's buyback no glyph nothing to stall the end push. Honestly, T3 walkers should be the strongest.
>>540133315why the fuck is the handle not in the middle of the umbrella is she fuckign stupid?
Where's my FUCKING PATCH, Yoshi?
>>540133193>Press 2 to run and also completely counter the bombNothing personnel, bebop
>>540134110She can dodge bombs??? With both of her blinks??? God damn she really is just Mirage but better
>>540133771is this better?
>>540133575>no buybackThanks christ, keep that shit out of the game. I understand the strategic depth but I fucking hate hording my gold for buyback instead of buying something that might actually help me win a fight.
>>540134239>she really is just Mirage but betterFunny you would say that, because her dodge can also go vertical, which make it much harder for enemies to chase.
>>540134921I was death spectating a Mina today and saw her double zip to the very top of a skyscraper from street level and I was just flabberghasted. The fuck is the enemy supposed to do after that? I presumed the zip was like the Dishonored blink where it's a squashed sphere (you can blink further horizontally than you can vertically) but nope! She's Mary Poppins.
>>540134716don't tell me you never had a game where you died before the last team fight, unable to do anything, just watch your team lose, and the enemy team take the entire base. Buyback in this game wouldn't be bad.
I've played 6 hours and have found>I despise lane against bebop with every fibre of my being>I hate melee>there's like no satisfying non melee tank/bruiser
>mcginnis kelvin lanewhat do you do when you know your lane is just fucked
>>540135227>McGinnis + KelvinVS>Sinclair + DoormanWho has the worse experience?
>>540135113>>I despise lane against bebop with every fibre of my beingHe's just pudge but more annoying somehow, at least he doesn't have dismember. I hate playing against hook heroes because of the mind games.
>>540135424EAT HIM FUCKIN EAT HIM DEVO
>>540083108>play against gun paige>double jump>all projectiles missI don't know how people win with this build
>no melee creep camp in jungledefend this
>>540135323Heals are always more cringe, especially in lane because you cant counter itemize
>>540135227>any lane vs a kelvinopen task manager, deadlock, end taskFUCK kelvin and kelvin players
>>540135083It means nothing because everyone will just play around buyback.
>>540136203>>540136203>>540136203
>>540136050uh oh seven melty
>>540136201no they won't
>>540136269i don't care if we absolutely shitstomp the game and win, kelvin is an miserable annoying cunt to play against and the psychological damage is unfathomable
>>540129295finally, someone else that noticed this. Past lane stage McGinnis players are just tanky rats. I really hope they just nerf her gun damage so she has to build it before it does anything in lane.
>>540135046Just know that Mina has like below 2k hp at max levels, early game she will have 1400 at best with some green items.
>>540123574kill yourself
