Trendy Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>540401935
>coombrain ed
>>540473989You can really tell dota wouldn't be anything without stealing everything from Blizzard, clean UI unlike Deadlock. You can easily tell what's your hero level how much dmg the hero does at any stage of the game, you can't in deadlock since the item system is straight dogshit, the worst in any moba I've ever played. Why don't they rework the dogshit stats/item system in that game? I buy a spirit item and it ads % to what?
Its going to be really funny when they redesign viper once again so all fanart is innacurate
Every time I hear "what's the plan?" ingame I think of the misadventures of skooks, YTPs have broken me
>>540474385nobody ever looks at those dmg stats btw
>>540473989>complains about some system being retarded>is so incoherent I can't even understand his postnot so easy is it
>>540474385Silence, russian.
>>540474876>>540474385That was my point, deadlock item system sucks ass. If they keep the current item system with how it shows stats and stuff, the game will forever be dying.>>540474958What makes you think I'm slavic?
Some clips from last night.
>>540474385Go back dotard. Deadlock is in alpha and already superior in every way. Stick with your shitty gookclicker that's been solved for 10 years. Literally every match is the same lmao you're a fucking robot.
>>540475050>slavicLMAO GOT CALLED OUT AND ACTING RETARDED
vindicta fags, do you need to lead your bullets more when flying? Also what DPI/ingame sensitivity you use?
>>540475226>what sens do I use???I hate posts like this because you will find super high and super low and everything in between used at high level of playhttps://prosettings.net/lists/cs2/
>>540475076>enemy has a 50k soul leadWhat a balanced inhouse
DOGtafaggots need to be murdered
The matchmaking fucking SUCKS dudeEven when its in your favor. I genuinely felt bad about this
You wouldn't really ever doubt a high rank paraslut if she hits most of her carbines, so you would never know that she only cheats to hit them.
>>540475375it's a waste to cheat for an ability on a long cooldown that's basically does the same damage as a GT arrowjust cheat with GT instead
>>540475332Do you also hate being told that you are not a pro, no one here is a pro, and even the pros have certain obvious patterns, so the question is valid, and that your tantrum is useless?Probably. You probably hear it a lot. Or should, at least.
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>540475750Why did they make so many ugly nigger characters? What was Valve thinking?
>>540475515You took that personally lol. Use whatever sens works for you. Use an aim trainer and play around with it. There's no such thing as an optimal sensitivity, just your personal preference.
>>540475050I dont know how I can tell but I can. It's cadence and aggressive toxicity
>>540475374how do you know it's matchmaking and not just you playing well for a game? The game is very snowbally. I can go 1-9 one game then 25-2 immediately after based on how the early and mid game goes. Not like I got super good all of a sudden
>>540475226Watch this for mouse sensitivity tips.https://youtu.be/mf8ShdalkN0
>>540475465Aimbots wouldn't help on GT except at mid/close range. Wallhax though? My god.
I miss the Midboss building in the center of the map.
I think the artstyle is ugly. It still hasn't grown on me despite all the small changes they've doneIf you can't make shit that looks cool the moba elements are even more cringe
>>540475465You need 16k worth of yellow items on parashit for it to do the same as 6k wise on Gaytalon.
>>540476943exactly
>>540476537It belongs in a museum!
>>540476087How many of you don't play 80-90% of the roster simply because they are ugly? Playing only a few chars will lead to burnout much faster.
>Mina can just dodge doorman ult damageShe is such fucking bullshit man
>>540476087>i'm ugly and trans>let's make this game ugly and trans
>>540477216So can Viscous, Ivy, Pocket, Dynamo and Haze.
>>540477216Several other heroes can do that. Or anyone who buys Ethereal Shift or Counterspell.
>>540477273Yeah but Mina is gay so she shouldn't be allowed
if you hit mina between her blinks she should get stunned, like shooting someone retreating on a zipline
>>540477216wtf? nobody should be able to do that
>>540477429If you hit mina between her blinks she should be forced to marry me
>>540477061I only play mina, paige and yamato with anime skin because im ugly 4cuck
>>540477962The lore twist behind Pocket's assassination attempt is Mina has a parasocial simp who kills all her boyfriends. So you'd be next. Sorry, Anon.
>>540477265rent free
This is insane. Valve's writers COOKEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZp3IQv0c14
>>540477990I used to play only parashit, but holy fuck play a single match of chief penisgrande and it will always make her feel like a retarded cousin. Worse hook and worse nuke, no ult basically. I can't fathom how this hero has a positive winrate in any bracket, only explanation is constant comms, cheating or party. She has a fun toolkit which is what leads people to play her but her winrate has to be skewed somehow.
>>540475076Is that mina retarded?
>>540478324
Oh come on anon why would OSIC supply impressionable supernatural youth with military grade weaponry and hexes? Don't believe everything you read in the New York Oracle
I wonder if they'll give us neutral items like in dota. I could definitely see them replacing the random buffs from statues/sinners with a special currency to get craft neutral items. Might make urn a more valuable objective too
>>540478324Imagine as Victor's ult plays out his booty and dick just leak cum all over the place as his body parts reassemble.
>>540475076Is that ivy retarded? Just threw.
>anon posts clips of deadlock inhouse>ruskies in the thread immediately go ape mode and start insulting any player that diesrest assured at their lowest they are still better than you.
>>540475076>2/6, 2/14, 2/9, 7/12uncarriable
>>540479220Stop throwing bro
>>540479220uh huh, sure they are
>>540478947Yes, and he probably blamed his team for his death there based on what I saw last thread about that guy lmao
Sex with Cadence, Boho and Swan
>>540475359they also gave away the rejuvenator because the team was so imbalanced lmao
>>540474356It will not. You retards can't even run a popsicle stand.>540473136You revealed your cards when you whined about most people founding companies do not found your dream co-op workplaces.Why the fuck would anyone>Take large financial risks>Work their ass off>Recruit a large number of other people to form a pleasant work environmentAnd if no one is willing to do that - ironically, performing labour for free for (you) - the entire system deserves to get burned to the ground.You are not a serious person.
>get Mo n Krill>enemy team is wraith kelvin infernus calico mcginnis ivyI hadno chance
>>540479973Stop playing with wojacks
>>540479982Nigger what. Only one that's a threat there is infernus>b-but stun me out of my ult!!!!krill isn't good because of ult exclusively and it's definitely not like you can't ult them AFTER they panic use their stun.
>540479973>wojakNo one should take you seriously, not that I read what you had to say. Kill yourself.
>>540475076>>540479220>clips>only posts one
>design fighting game tier mechanics for laning that decides the tempo of a 30 minute game>it's completely random based on netcode if the parry lands before the melee or if you can dash away from a melee 10 feet behind youbravo valve
>>540479220How do I unsubcribe from hearing about inhouse?
>>540480223skill issue
>>540480223>le lane decides gamehellooooo shitlow!
>>540480342I said tempo , your reading comprehension is shitlow
>>540480223....then don't use melee???
Deadlock has both a party and an air dash, meaning it is Melty blood, the fighting game for autistic freaks
>>540480501how can i prevent the enemy from meleeing at me?
>>540480595just parry bro lmao
>>540480550They should let you jump around in the pre-game standoff like in Melty Blood>>540480595Whenever not last hitting in lane, spam parry. That way they know you're an expert at pressing F and cannot be heavy meleed.
>>540480595>>540480501actually dont even bother answering that, you still have to melee creeps and shit in lane no matter whatyou are gay
>Enter Deadlock thread>It's an economics politics fight
>>540480070Sorry, its just bad to see someone go on absolute parade of blind retardation in a post-700+ parts of thread and finding out thread was locked before I could finish typing any response
>>540480595don't be in melee distance retard. You can also go for a parry then dash the fuck away if you fail since they won't be able to catch up if they baited you or have to expend all their stamina to chase you where your parry should be off CD again and if they bait again well hopefully you're close to base right now or have them low enough to where it matters less
>>540480851Its no use arguing with retards on the internet, applies to deadlock too
>>540481090Didn't expect to see this artist here...
>>540480695>you still have to melee creeps and shit in lane no matter whatWhat the fuck are you talking about. You do not have to melee creeps, it's good too but what, you're scared you're going to get parried doing that? pay attention to where enemies are it's not complicated. Did you blow on from /v/eddit or something and are just trying to make up retarded shit to try and make people who enjoy the game somehow think it's bad because of the dumb shit you're spewing?
>>540481090Wow cool
>>540481090nice
>>540481090thats a guy
>>540481996How can you tell
>>540481996(Victor voice) THE gay WILL BE WORTH IT
Does any toon does a backflip? I think Haze should
>>540481090>manliest doorman main
>>540482229Okay I now I feel dumb, but I was thinking about air dash
>>540482229Shiv does some flips when mounting/dismounting the rail
where the fuck do minas get their money from?she's not even an ultrafarmer like wraith or seven yet she starts doing picrel at 25 mins with 40k net worth somehow
>>540482491>Cultist sacrifice
>>540482491Rake/bites annihilate waves and camps. Cult sac helps too.She's really good to steal enemy jungle/sinners with too.
>>540482665is bats really as good as wraith's tp for skidaddling out of the double sacrifice rape building?
>>540481219Please play Deadlock with me Asasissy
>>540482779Yeah, it's really good.
>scourge + decay victor>still diethis game is cooked unironically
>>540483005me ungame walk into 6 niggaswhy unga die
>>540482491what are you on about>Damage nuke on love bites which has no cooldown vs multiple creeps>Rake is a damage nuke AND heals you AND has low CDShe has A tier farming capabilities, only thing she'd struggle with is tier 3s but like other anon said, cultist cleans that up nicely
>>540483005>he didn't buy e-shift
>get random xeratricky video>gets into extended fight with enemy on their side of lane instead of bursting them and backing up>only retreats after other enemy shows up>health is so low that he dies trying to run, giving up first blood>complains about his teammate not helping himEternus 6 guys
>ganked by someone with silence wave>instant deathvery skilled sir. why am I walking around without debuff remover? silly me
>8mins matchmaking
How to save deadlock:>Make Ivy a big bat instead of retarded goygoyle>Delete Paige>Give Vindicta shoes>Make infernus Indian>Make Drifter look more like hobo>Expand underground; add creeps and minibosses>Give Guardians and Walkers (when you can fight them) slow regen
>>540475076Damn, that looks fun. I've lowered my mouse sensitivity and I will be buying a bigger mouse pad today, so I hope I'll get to play tonight while actually being useful to the team.
new casual mode leak:>12v12>no items>all abilities are level 2>guns deal 2.5x more damage>everyone has 35% debuff resist and +50% reload speed>you can swap heroes in-game>swapping to a new hero puts your ultimate on cooldown>releasing with the next major update
>>540483719The only Eternus players that genuinely look Eternus to me are Eido and Deathy. Eido specially might just be one of the best players in this game period.
>>540483949*sprays you with water bottle* back! back to your tf2 thread! *sprays you* back!
>>540483949Okay Haze
>>540483757Outskilled by 1 (one) click in the shop window, learn to play before entering real matches next time>>540483879Fuck off, jeets and fags deserve no appreciation and representation in the civilized spaces
>>540483949>35% debuff resistwell Abrams is fucked
>>540480913you cant get away from people reliably, by the time you dash they are pounding your ass from an even greater distance than the dash was with a melee it's laggy and sticky it's a shit mechanic
Drifter players are so fucking ass, they always go 0 10 regardless of team.
>>540481219If you are close enough to the creeps to melee the enemy is close enough to melee you at some point. You cannot stay away from melee range consistently to never interact with their shitty netcode around it. They straight up adjusted the deny mechanic to favor the non denier because they KNOW they couldnt fix it to make it less frustrating to get netcode raped with denies due to ping. They can't get rid of melee in the same way though it's a zero sum system there
Calico is the most cancerous designUseless when behind"What can I even do" when ahead
So, if you build gun you are basically just throwing the match? I mean unless you are Vyper.
>>540485132Just click their heads and win bro
>>540484279This but Mina players
>>540485132You need gun to actually kill towersUnless you're Mina
>>540484279take that back
is there anything more sad than a smurfer
>>540484938But thats true for every hero in the game
engaging in coitus with the entity currently taking the form of a humble service worker known as 'The Doorman" at the hotel, the baroness!
>>540485854when someone says "brb restarting" and takes like 10 minutes to rejoin. what kind of shitshow of a toaster are they playing on..
Had the most stressful game of Deadlock ever the other day. I had to buy every counter imaginable and only won because I was playing the arguably best hero, most definitely the best carry in the game atm. I had to buy every counter imaginable to carry because I know the 4 retards on my team wouldn't, and even if they did, the enemy team was solely focusing me anyway because I was the MVP carry. I got Doorman ulted six or seven times. Solo black holed twice. Pretty sure they were 5 or 6 stacking, their gameplay was entirely coordinated in a way I'd never seen before. I'm so glad I won against this trash.
>>540486136mostly not the person's fault here
>>540484125>t. EidoMost streamers/Eternus players seem to win either by out-aiming their opponent or through obsessively out-farming everyone else in the game until they can statcheck their opponents. I had the misfortune to watch Zergy or whatever his name was and every time he would take an engagement at equal souls, he would either lose it or bait his team into a fight before ditching them and leaving them to die.
>>540485997Stop avoiding my filters you niggerfaggot>>540486191But it is. Buy a proper PC or play singleplayer games
>>540486335why can't you do this and win if it's so easy then
>>540486335fights are so much more than soul counts
>>540485865it's most true with her because her kit is unreactable and has no warning unlike lash
>Playing shiv>Team has rejuv>Team is all pushing left lane (no base guardians)>I'm fishing around mid lane>Go in on an ivy>Suddenly hear knockdown sound>Full doorman ult>Not even half health as I enter hotel>Get out to being trapped in a kelvin ult+infernus ult with their entire team inside>Die>Revive>My entire team comes in with a dynamo ult and wipes them clean Shit you see down here in lowlife archons, 3 ults just to get rid of one mans rejuv when the rest of his team is already pushed up nearby...
>>540486647It's even funnier when you're on Victor with your ult up and they dump 2-3 ults just to put yours on cooldown.
>>540484605>If you are close enough to the creeps to melee the enemy is close enough to melee you at some point.Not true. Some heroes are objectively better up close than others, while some are weak. You really think a haze is going to go point blank to a M&K who is meleeing creeps? The scenario you have in your head is not what happens in actual games. Do people try to parry people who mindlessly try to melee creeps? Yes, it does happen, but it's not something that's super common and prevalent. Good players will keep track of where their opponents are in lane and the positioning and push/pull of the lane is a constantly changing dynamic where different matchups, health differences, item differences, etc change where people are positioned.
>>540486401>he actually typed out SEX WITH THE DOORMAN to avoid a single post and had to see it anywaydelightful
the only thing this game will be known for by the time it releases is having shitty matchmaking
>>540485132No? You're probably new but gun is very good on a lot of characters. Most characters do lean more spirit heavy but a lot of characters including anyone that wants to shoot people primarily want some level of gun items.
>>540486335>outaiming opponent to headshot to deathso good micro>outfarming opponent to statcheckso good macrowhat more do you want bro
I just watched a 50/50 gun/spirit Victor hard carry... he had literally one green item and never pressed 3, but topped kills, damage, objective damage, and healing.
>>540487467>no green itemhowpretty sure that hero is unplayable without lifesteal and armors
>>540487467>one green itemdebuff remover or stamina mastery?
>>540487535He had Healing Booster and nothing else.
I LOVE SLEEP INTO HEAVY COMBO WHILE MY """"""""ALLY""""""" JUST WATCHES
Is colossus good on Yamato? I keep forgetting to buy it
>>540487683Haze is Autistic and thus you are Autistic.I don't help Autists.Enjoy your Tylenol.
>>540487683parrying is scarryyyy
>>540487683love it when my ally dashes into mo and dies to combo then acts like I was supposed to help
>click on random russian stream>first second watching i witness a viscous grief the bebop streamer by cubing him while he's full health, unthreatened, and clearly about to put a bomb on a calico>this leads to him losing momentum and getting attacked by the entire enemy team while viscous escapeskek, russians.
>>540478505>>540478947We weren't trying to win the inhouse games, just brool>>540475076Why did you cut out your death you cheeky shit
>>540488059uh so they actually grief each others??
>>540487683
>>540488135This is so satisfying to see.
>>540487683Oops looks like your telepathic signals keep getting ddosed and jammed, gotta communicate with the team next time!
>>540488135that's what it should fucking happen every time but noooo everyone HAS to be the main character of the game and never try anything>>540488301want me t scream parry in the mic?
>>540488135unfathomably based, fuck haze
>>540486918I see a haze doing it under tower even>>540488135
>>540483879>Delete PaigeHow about delete yourself, faggot
>>540488135Nice
>>540488428so paige is american then
>>540487808You seem to be the autist, he isn't the fucking haze
>>540487467This strategy was posted in dlg but got flamed
>>540488348Yes you fucking retard, learn to make callouts or stop complaining about teammates being unable to perfectly predict and process your intentions
>>540488428Sybau, jizz for brains
>>540488428Fag picrel made by nigger Paige poster, fatfags in bodybags>>540488629Every build posted here will be flames. I should probably post mine too.
>>540488708sure my nigga my teammates will listen if I scream or even use my mic. Very cute fic you're making here. If they need to understand they can get a free parry if they move one centimeter, you bet they gonna understand and follow calls
errmm how to play mcginnis? what build?
>>540488428Victor main here, my cock is way too small to get past those cheeks
dmg resist items are such a fucking scam I should go full neandertal full dmg
Thank God for the mute button.I swear some faggots just hop on to be mad at anything even if its team mates being helpful to them.
>>540489171I've had guys get mad that we got a kill in the "wrong" way before
New player herePlayed for first time Deadlock for 2 hours and enjoy it alot (4 matches, 2 win and 2 loose) and still trying to learn about builds and movementsAlso Billy my beloved is my favorite so far
>>540488875You lost the game by never actually trying, the only person to blame is yourself.
>>540483879>>Give Vindicta shoesgive her some nikes
>>540489507I asked
Valve should be bullied into making singleplayer games and singleplayer games alone.
>>540489543you don't even play the game and that shows>>540489507I asked. Remember when you climb something, you can immediatly slide by prssing crouch midanimation
>>540487368Micro sure, but I'd disagree with the macro. It's a very narrow window between "I ignore my team and farm all game while we lose every objective" and "I ignore my team and farm all game while they win 5v6".
>>540489768You keep blaming anyone but yourself, seriously rethink your attitude before it loses you even more games.
Cultist needs to be nerfed to the fucking ground so it actually has some negatives to it, like Midas does.
>>540474385you're a retard and all of this is visible in Deadlock already.I also have more hours in DotA [1/2] than you.
>>540490650>you're a retard and all of this is visible in Deadlock already.Not really.>I also have more hours in DotA [1/2] than you.More than 6k? I want to see that.
>>540475076>base is still untextured>people think this game is anywhere close to release
>>540490512this but veilwalker
>>540487535>pretty sure that hero is unplayable without lifesteal and armorswow if only he had not one but two abilities that healed him....
>>540476981
>>540490794release was a year ago senpai
>>540488829>Fag picrel made by nigger Paige posterCan you repeat that in English, Prakesh?
>>540491104Now post how the base looked a year ago
>>540490512True. I'm tired of veil walker and cultist being picked on every hero. Why they thought giving one T3 item the feature of several T2s while also building from a great lane item is beyond me.
>>540489507NuPlayers seem to really like Billy is it because he is new as well or just fun to play?
>>540490512I think it's clear they are pushing to have quicker, more higher-tempo games so I don't think Cult Sac will ever become Midas-tier but it's a bit insane how Cult Sac gives 150% bonus souls AND a huge buff that everyone would want AND that the buff lasts through death. Touching any one of those aspects would probably bring the item in-line with what it should be.
>fuwaingu tsuriku>powa surashu
>>540485132one of my favorite /dlg/ memes.
I hate meta items people pick up not because it fits into a theme or utilizes the core idea of an item but purely because of statsCultist shouldn't give any health buffs so that people only pick it up if the fire rate or ability range matters. It also needs the monster rounds effects removed entirely and make it it's own item. Veil walker should either have the heal removed or at MINIMUM it should give a healing rite-like effect where it heals over time and is interrupted if you get hit. There's absolutely no good reason for it to heal, let alone have SCALING burst heal
>>540490512midas meta is zzzzi sure enjoy the farming item letting me BROOL while it also lets me clear the entire map before the drool seeping from the hanging jaw of the retarded orangutans that are my teammates and my opponents touches the floor
>>540490864>Let's everyone become invisible, on a rather small cooldown>Also heals when activated>Also bonus movespeed>as if being given invis on whatever character you chose wasn't enough of an upside especially for escapingperhaps someone at Valve needs to be spanked and told NO for once
>>540490512This but counterspell, like decreased spirit resist on miss
>>540492085lol no. Counterspell is perfectly fine as is
>>540490750>6k hoursmy Steam account is older than you.
>>540492314>Member since June 28, 2004this you?
>>540492314Damn unc!
>>540492606
>metro slandering trophy collector and forty caught a strayThe evidence is now overwhelming. Trophy collector is meta
>>540492606Really hope he's not a midget in his redesign.
Infernus is such a dumb character>perma uptime burn with incredible scaling that only needs a single hit of anything to refresh the duration>also reduces spirit damage by 25%??>wide aoe farm tool/escape/chase that reduces fire rate >unmissable 40% MORE damage debuff that also slows, reduces healing AND gives lifesteal>inb4 debuff removerno nigga, it has charges without having to buy an item>2 second huge aoe stunwhat did he mean by creating a hero that does absolutely everything
>>540493583He used to be a big deal before he became a bartender, you know
>>540493583all true, but infernus at least is somehwat squishy. viscous is seriously one of those "does literally everything with no weaknesses" heroes. only kit with an ability that removes ultimate debuffs.
>game allows russians to play in other serversyeah this is never popping off. you're low IQ of you accept this
guess the hero
>>540493796don't you have to use a proxy to switch servers? good luck stopping people from doing that
>>540494029Ivy
>>540494045>uses russian localization>uses russian Steam>99% of his login history is from russia>place him in a EU lobby
>>540494029Classic mina
>>540493796When they made it so they had to play with each other they went onto the dev forums and started crying calling the devs racist kek
>>540494087>>540494203Wrong
>>540494045Only Russians play Valve slop.
>>540494307Honestly valid. All he has to do is press 4 and hope a teammate does something. Don't need items for that
>>540494307>acme anvilYeah, this is a valid build.>b-but--It works.
>>540477061Reason why I never played Grey Talon. He is boring and ugly af.
>>540491187Nigs and brownoid do like landwhales desu fr tho
>just build everything gun>every hero is better
>>540494427>>540494452yeah i love waiting 90 seconds for my op bullshit character teammate to use his ult instead of 30 seconds and never burrow anywhere
>>540492085>t.LashCounterspell is the most soulful and fun item in the game. Opinions of people who want it nerfed/removed don't matter.
Fuck it, I'm just going to start getting trophy collector into cultist sacrifice into transcendent cooldown every game on every hero.See you in game lads.
Reminder that AP rounds can go through kelvins dome
>>540494603because all you know how to do is aim at people
>>540494627what?
Is knockdown stun based on if they were up in the air on cast or after the delay?
>get in>infernus is 35k before the match hits 20 minutes>vyper ahs died 10 times to him aloneit is ggs
>>540494603Valid gun heroes:- Infernus- Haze- Abrams- Billy- Ivy- Mirage- Bebop- Maybe McGinnis? Seems redundant- Doorman, unfortunately
>>540494958I fucking hate this gayme
>>540494872Fuck you mean what? That faggot has no cooldown items so he makes US wait while he does nothing.
>>540494693>t. DENIED
>>540495025I legit believe ricochet shouldn't trigger on NPCs, that shit is too broken
>>540495301how is it possible for that dumb fireback gorilla to get 2k a min its stupid
>>540495587this only happens if you take objectives solo
>>540495024You are missing about 20 heros
Uh people are gonna start pretending spirit is weak again
>>540496337Truth, Gay Talon doing half your healthbar by minute 3 is WEAKWAKE UP SHEEPLEHAZE IS THE BEST HERO
Is there anyone who SHOULDNT build ricochet?
>>540496749Haze
>>540494958You know what is worse?Aside from me and Yamato EVERYONE was farming jungle for some retarded reason. Somehow none of them had the idea to farm the enemy jungle.I am gonna start playing carries just so they don't end on the other team I might be able to get some kills and push
>>540496749Anyone who isnt haze or infernus
ricochet is ok on mirage
>>540496749If it is a gun character with high mag and fire speed then ricochet is good
>>540496927Not really, mark takes like 20 seconds to apply max stacks so you will never hit more than a 2x or 4x
Ricochet on Holliday is great
heroic aura is actually an insane item, so underrated
>>540496981You really want an on hit effect or its not worth>>540497150Yes but its one of those items you only want 1 or 2 for the team
>check last thread>it's full of haze downplaying>UHHHHH SHE'S ACTUALLY NOT A STRONG LANER JUST NEVER GET SHOT AND NEVER GET SLEEP DAGGEREDbro
Bringing up a topic from last thread about how you can parry Viscous' goo punch as if it were a melee (no it doesn't stun him) and how I think you should be able to parry billy's 1/bashdown. Someone tried to tell argue otherwise but I just learned there's even more evidence why you should be able to since Billy's 1 can actually be held and there doesn't seem to be that much of a practical purpose for this....unless the opponent can parry it. So if you could use a normal parry against it, billy could actually bait it out and I think that's pretty interesting
is Lash ult really hard to land or am I just really bad at the game?maybe I just don't have enough experience on him, but, range is way smaller than I expect, and people kind of just walk behind a wall all the time.
>>540497875the range isn't a circle, it's a vertical oval
>>540497710Billy's already reliant on melees to replenish health. If you parry his bashdown you are gutting his entire kit
>>540497875you gotta be way above them to use it correctly the more vertical above then you are the easier it is to land
>>540482146>THE AIDS WILL BE WORTH IT
>>540495807thats stupid
>>540498312>so shit at the game that he doesn't defend his walkers
>>540494045Dota seems pretty popular.
>>540497682every hero can shoot you and ironically haze does some of the lowest damage of all heroes from shooting you in laning.got sleep daggered? skill issue. most heroes have abilities way better at bursting your health that doesn't require a heavy melee for damage. haze gets hit by a single viscous 1 or talon 1 or doorman 1 and she's down to half
>>540497875its hard. the circle shouldn't decay just becasue you look away from someone. it should stay at half or quarter filled or whatever if you look away from someone in the aoe
>>540497150does heroic aura and wraith 3 stack?
>>540498849>fixation? NAH JUST DON'T GET SHOT. you want to shoot minions? UHHHH GET SHOT THAT'S BAD POSITIONING. golly gee haze is such a bad laner!
>Abrams passive countered by antiheal>Shiv's weird ass passive not countered by anything and so it has to do nothing in order to be balancedbravo valve, they truly are some of the game devs of all time
>>540499265it's just love bites but gun
>>540498849>haze gets hit by a single viscous 1 or talon 1 or doorman 1 and she's down to halfthat's half the cast and those are other lane rapists. you can't say haze is a bad laner when she has a winning matching against 28 heros but 3 bad matchups
>>540499337Good thing his 3 is shit unless you have a healer tied to you
How do you even counter infernos post farmed?
>got kicked back to the main menu midgame>cant rejoin despite the option being therewhat the fuck?
The year is 2030. People still do not buy Curse.
>>540499660hope he fucks up positioning somehow. if he can tard wrangle his urge to just flame dash randomly he'll just destroy everything with M1 and his sludge bomb
>>540499265>minions
>>540499916let me shoot the minions with my champs bro
veil walker is getting nerfed back into a tier 4
>>540499660ulr - refresher - ult
>>540500059shadow weave is already t4. if I had to adjust walker 1. increase CD to 14s2. no longer heals, just gives regen that goes away with enemy damage
>>540499806>hope he fucks up positioning somehowDon't worry, he will naruto run away and heal off his fire while doing this too
>>540499981Keep on slaying mobs with your toons
>>540499656I already said it was shit, retard
>>540499981I have literally never played league or dota and i call them turret and minionsguess league won the culture war
>>540500384perhaps you're just a homosexual.
>GUARDIANS>WALKERSthey're all towers to me brother
I think the guardians should zipline to lane with you at the start of the game
>>540500809but then i'd feel bad when they die
>>540500809The guardians should have a short distance they can walk to body block shots to protect you
PLEASE BUFF TROPHY COLLECTOREven the smallest buff I will buy it 10/10 times with Kelvin
>>540499660Win the draft RNG and have a Mo to anti-carry.
>>540495024>Kelvin best gun hero in the game>not on listPisslow take
>>540501225i miss aids beam kelvin so much
>>540501225No one is running gun Kelvin.
>>540479354he wasn't throwing, I was. I'll stop I promise.
when you queue up, r u still forced to chose 3 characters to play?
>>540501726at gun point even
>>540500885They also have unused voice lines. Seems like more leftovers from Neon Prime.https://youtu.be/Oz8l5I7ngJY
>>540498005No you aren't because he can still use light melee and bashdown is on CHARGES. The billy flow chart is bash > blasted > bash. Being able to parry one of those doesn't somehow "gut his kit"
deadlock? more like deadcock, because the whole playerbase are virgins lmao *dabs*
>>540501426In your games I'm sure that's true.
>Team communicates>We win>Team doesn't communicate>We loseWow
>>540501904yes it does and you are gay
>>540501726more if you want to do any of the new ones.
>>540502057No one is running gun Kelvin at any rank.
>>540501868I can hear pocket and calico.
what's a good not expensive mic to get
>>540499789>6400
>>540502067Imagine falling for the comm memeTake any random vod and the trash coms outnumber the good ones 10 to 1 and that's being very generous. A lot of you would instantly rank up if you just instituted everyone the second you joined the lobby. The pings alone convey basically everything you would ever need
you should not be able to pause the game btw
> he doesn't deliberately miss a heavy melee in front of his lane opponents at minute 1 to check if they parry
>>540499742I waited 20 minutes before "abandoning", received no penalty and the game isnt recorded anywhere, awesome
>>540502169I can't believe that's still going on, it has been like 3 weeks
>>540502067I don't know how you euros keep track of what is even going on with the team being full silent. I can do that in dota but the tps perspective stops me from being able to just perma stare at the map to know where everyone is and what they are doing so if I'm infront of the team on a frontliner I don't notice when they back up and get raped.
>>540502306Still the best fuck you item. Many great memories cursing someone repeatedly off cooldown until they sperg out
>click disable custom hero crosshair>changes to a black crosshair>you can't change the FUCKING COLORICEFRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUDDDD
>>540502182Seethe troon
Yup just never ever balance hero comp in MM please
>>540502820hate the spiffing brit character so much
>>540502483>your mates never capitalize on it
>>540502820>both teams have a gun carry spirit nuker, initator, and frontline>wahhh teams aren't balanced
>>540502820this unironically seems pretty balanced
>>540502820this is balanced thoughbebop can hook lash in ult, viscous can cube in lash ult, ivy can stone form.ivy and mo are top 3 heroes in the game.this is just a skill diff, not a draft diff.if anything, you're the odd one out, throwing by playing fucking sinclair. you will be a detriment to every team you are in
They should adopt the Monday night combat mechanic of being able to spend money on buying extra creeps
>>540502673What site is that? I want to see the best builds
>>540503217tracklock
>>540503139>buy walker upgrade>it actually starts walking
>>540502820>anon bitches about matchmaking while posting a screenshot where he's feeding
>>540502820>Team of mostly rapists Vs team of mostly rapistsI don't see the problem. The issue you describe exists, but this isn't a good example of it.
what build do i go on briefcase hobo to grind with for next inhouse
What if you could buy doorway traps like in call of duty Zombies
>>540502673You conveniently ignored how both the other two builds shown, support and spirit initiator, have higher winrates than his gun build.Disingenuous faggot.Also, these winrates are most likely being filtered by all ranks for exactly the same item choices. So I believe it's not possible to know in what rank average these are being used.
>>540503524glocket
>>540503524Majestic leap, tranny cooldown, spam cultist and farm the map till you're big. Buy enchant emblem early to deal with your negative spirit resist. Build warp stone, e shift, replace cultist late with echo shard or curse. Spam your ult and kill everyone with spirit burn/boundless.
>>540503283I dont have any souls, mo ivy and bebop fed you pedo
>>540503732>drags goalpost from "no one plays it" and "no one plays it at any rank" to "My vagina hurts look at the winratesOver 100 games is still people playing it who's really being "disingenuous" I'll take your concession now.
>>540503986Yes, a hundred retards, most likely in Initiate 1, are playing Gun Kelvin like it's early 2024 still. Good one.
>>540503862sounds good now to not lane against someone better than me then i'd get a foothold
New game: guess what rank I'm in
>>540504391Ritualist
>>540504089>375 total games on build page>350 games played in eternus on kelvin last 7 daysSure whatever you need to tell yourself. Keep coping tranny. I see it in high ranked lobbies you're in pisslow seething that Haze is OP.
>>540504338Resto shot/ healing rite, get enchanter in lane. If you lose the lane shit happens. Use your 2 to push waves then do box routes. Your only job is to make money till majestic leap then spam it to get around map/gank/farm.
abrams deadlock
>>540498849People underestimate the small burst of spirit fixation stacks do. It doesn't help vs some tanky heroes but it allows her to outpoke squishy heroes by just shooting them from really far
>>540504774John...
>>540499337>>Shiv's weird ass passive not countered by anything and so it has to do nothing in order to be balancedToxic bullets and decay counter shiv since those bleed based on current HP % and because shivs passive reduces initial damage, he'll have a higher current HP % while deferred damage stacks up a ton, which he can only clear so much of without maxxing out upgrades (which is the last thing shivs max)
>>540503732>>540502673These builds are both retarded. You should dip into all three stats as Kelvin, category investments fall off after the bar is half-full. Hybrid is strongest.
idea: if you hold Q you will hold your heavy melee at full charge. This could be used to bait the enemy into parrying early. while holding it you can only walk very slowly, slower than crouching. Releasing will do the full momentum of a regular heavy melee. Drawbacks of holding heavy melee would be enemy has an easier time parrying you when you release the hit, and you stand there like a tard easily targetable by gunfire. Can only hold the melee while on the ground. should be a new feature for everyone or an item with this as a passive feature to make melee builds on melee coded guys real again.someone who has a forum account post it for me thanks. Thoughts?
patch doko
>>540505716Melee system has enough complexity as is. Parrying based on sound is how most people do it because visual information processes slower than a sound cue. Adding more depth to the melee system where it's not needed will just make it more annoying to play against already obnoxious heros(Abrams Calico Billy) without any positive trade off for non melee heros.
>>540505942*raises paw*WHAT IFwhen you slide and press Q you do a slidekick. it's just a light melee but not parryable. HIRE ME YOSHI
>>540506145*shits on you*
>>540506224sasquatch hero when?
>>540505871canceled
>>540481090Canon Pocket
>>540506373*SHITS HARDER*
>>540505942how is the melee system complex at all? it's just 2 forms of melee and one block button on a 4/2 second cooldown. That's toddler shit. This is dota with guns. A delayed heavy melee would make you think about fights even harder, and we like thinking in ranks above Initiate.
>>540505942also there would be a continual sound playing as its held it wouldnt go away until the release but I forgot to mention that so now you have nothing to argue against
>win 4 games in a row>turn the game off and come back tomorrow>5 minute queue>yoshi cooking>first game of the day is playing with these subhuman niggers that feedincredibly subtle forced 50, thank you valve!! the humor is never lost
>>540506845desu the melee system is simple but adds a non-obtrusive layer to the combat. this game already has some of the most complex movement mechanics outside of pure sperg stuff like gunZ, I think it's fine at a fundamental level.
>>540506845>hurrdurr in ranks aboveActually no. Only low rank retards like the melee aspect this much. They sit in lane and punch eachother to death and think it's good gameplay. The higher you go thr less you see people using melee for anything other than movement and mobility. Adding a light melee into some combos here and there at most. >>540507046A continuous sound would make it worse because now I parry on sound and the opponent is just charging a melee. It sounds like you just want a broken melee system because you keep getting parried due to spamming heavy melees vs people better than you.
>>540507250if it makes u feel any better i had a pocket who probably watched some GODLIKE FARM PATTERN video and only farmed jungle and never pushed a lane even if we were fighting the entire enemy team in two other lanes as far away from him as possible. he would back as soon as he cleared the enemy church camp instead of pushing the walker when they were all distracted. he had 40k souls though so that means he did all he could even when i told him to push and he ?'d me. im just a shitstain who deserves to lose i guess...
>>540507527NTA but I think you're underrating how good melee can be. it's certainly viable on heros that can force it or have melee imbued properties. forcing the mind-game of a parry on a carry is also powerful if they stun themselves
>Play side lane hero>Cant push because brool brain ape teammates cant fight for shit>Blame me for not taking a walker when its perpetually 3v6
>>540499660Depends on what kind of infernus we're talking about. Gun infernus (gun as in focused on afterburn) is countered by good ole spirit armor and debuff remover. If it's flame dash infernus, knockdown and just staying off the floor is good
>>540501868so guardian robots were piloted by people it seems
>>540507527yeah i know no one uses melee because its so easily punishable, that's why I suggested a feint mechanic to make it viable. I play the game I realize these things. and aw what a shame YOU do this thing to counter melees but that doesn't mean anything to me. it doesnt matter if you parry on melee sound, why wouldnt you do that if you were being chased down and people are trying to melee you as you run. you have eyes you blind nigger if you're looking at someone charging a melee you can judge whether it comes at you or he holds it. this idea is hardly broken, you're coping
>>540502820They're probably not going to have any kind of hero matchmaking OR draft until they officially categorize heroes into roles.
*raises flipper*What if they just got rid of parryslop entirely?
>>540505716>if you hold Q you will hold your heavy melee at full charge. This could be used to bait the enemy into parrying early.This would ONLY be a good idea if they gutted turn speed when meleeing because right now you can already bait by just turning away. They would not do this because being able to turn while meleeing is part of what makes it fun to use and adding this extra layer of bait-ability would be unnecessary
>>540508237>officially categorize heroes into rolesThis game fell offYou use to build anyone into anything with how items were, now every hero is stuck to 1-2 builds
>>540508206>feintyou can already turn away mid melee to fake it thoughever
>>540508416You're literally making shit up and if anything, you have more options for builds than ever before because the items are just so much better and more interesting.
>>540508206We have a feint mechanic. You whiff the melee on purpose and in exchange you get to hit the next one or force a dodge. You're just too retarded to do this and think we need a special mechanic for (YOU) to bait.
>>540502820i don't see a problem with this match up.unless both your paige and ivy players think support builds are real i guess.
hmmm....what if we made a new melee attack from air dashes? press Q in the middle of air dashing and it's just a longer range light melee. medium attack kicks....yes....
If I were to ever smurf I would pick Billy as much as possible and just spam melee
>>540508416Last year every gun hero built kenetic dash active reload tesla bullets and then 6300 items with 0 difference in meta builds. You're literally making shit up. Buulds are wider and more varied than ever.
>Deadlock was better and more fun like 6 months ago when I played it for the first time and didn't know anything and though I could build anything and play any character any way I wanted and did well because I had the sense to look at the map every few seconds
>>540508575>>540508749*builds cultist sac and veil walker*
If I'm on a win streak I play who I think is fun.If I'm on a losing streak I play whoever is the most OP.
>>540508948Veilwalker is specifically for ganking heros. Paradox calico bebop etc build it. Cultist is a natural upgrade from monster rounds(you should be building this in lane anyway) there's literally tons of heros who don't build either.
>>540508948I unironically knew this is exactly what you were going to say and you will ignore whatever item was meta at the various times pre-shop update that everyone got. And no, you do not need to build those items. They are good and too strong but even in at high level organized team tournaments you're not seeing it on every character.
>Trying to aim with my whole arm for the first time in my lifeMan, this is so straining.>>540508104Not necessarily, it's sci-fi.
>dead and spectating off lost teamfight>the nigger warden who ulted all of us to cheese the win is fighting mirage with paradox>he is very low HP while Paradox is full>mirage just keeps trying to run away and sometimes shoots ONLY the paradox>dies anyways>ask why he shot only the full HP paradox (not even rude or anything, just a question)>has a melty over itbruh some gamers are mentally ILL
>>540508590you whiff the melee on purpose and then the guy who parried is already running away from you into their team after regenerating stamina while you're still in the endlag of your melee and you missed your kill because there was too much distance in between you and him. yeah I know. but follow the conversation here. try to keep up, champ. maybe to you coming from marvel rivals missing an attack on purpose is novel gameplay. but over here with the big boys, we like to have the gameplay make sense. why should I be punished with potentially missing a kill when my victim is the one who messed up? whiffing a melee barely works because like I said they're going to escape you while you're in the endlag if they arent retarded.
>>540509207>it's sci-fithat's what i'm saying, it seems they might have been piloted mechs than ai robots
>>540508682SOVL
>>540509519just aim your heavy melee attack up, duh. or don't over commit to a heavy melee when they're far away enough to dash roll away from everything (or run melee charge early enough)
>>540509519>over here with the big boysOpen the game screenshot your rank and get back to me.
it’s actually crazy how you literally cannot defend weakened patronYou have to int before it drops or it’s just gg if they are all up
>>540509682I accept your concession
Okay hear me out. Give active reload the extra stamina treatment>Active reload becomes an 800 item, no bonus stats after the reload, cooldown reduced to 6-8 seconds>T2 weapon upgrade that stats "whenever you perform a successful reload, gain fire rate and bullet lifesteal", nerfed stats compared to current AR just because of the cooldown nerf>T2 spirit upgrade that says something similar but instead adds spirit damage based on bullet damage (basically like mercurial mag)>T3 weapon upgrade that removes active reloads cooldown entirely, every successful active reload when ammo is <50% adds stacking weapon damage and ammo, up to X amount, and you lose all stacks if you fail an active reload or reload above 50% ammo>The wording of the T2 upgrades combo with the T3 version meaning if you have the T3 + any of the T2, the T2 active reload buffs have permanent uptime. Yay? Nay?
>>540509863You weren't offered one, but low iq niggers have a habit of taking things that aren't theirs. I'm not surprised. Picrel.
>>540510143its pretty funny to me that you think a retarded janky melee system is acceptable because you're an aimnigger and hate being meleed and would kill yourself if you ever got meleed so you disparage real progress towards making the game more fluid
Removing instant heal is an obvious choice to nerf veil walker but what if actually worked similar to majestic leap? where you couldn't active it's effect until you've been out of combat for 5 seconds?
>>540510112Sound interesting, but I'd need to try it first.
>>540507746my next game I get a victor + seven who are permanently afk in the jungle doing absolutely fucking NOTHING for the team while we lose at 25 minutes. yeah bros epic carry picks we're totally going to be able to 4v6 a team fight brool comp while you stand shooting inanimate NPCs for 40 minutes. COUGH. look at this objective damage. absolutely fucking pathetic.
>>540510806ggs i was the seven
>>540510605While I have thousands of hours in FPS games I play melee based ones too. So wrong again. Your system idea is just so painfully shit and has nothing "fluid" about it.
There are too many sustain items whose primary purpose is not sustainBring back going to base if you need healing
>>540510919>base once early game>lose 1000 souls worth of creeps>lose tower>lose game from snowballNo thanks
hate viscous so much I might have to became a viscous player so I don't play against it
>>540511020yes, if you get forced to base you should lose your lane. that's how this works
>>540510806absolutely disgusting. every game I play seven I have top obj damage no exceptions>>540510842you should be ashamed
>>540511309That's not how it works in any other game. In league there's tower plating. In dota there's more abundant and better regen than deadlock + TP scrolls.
>>540511020they should really just increase the zip speed when going home.they had to change respawn times last patch because suiciding to the tower was like 3 times faster than zipping home and back.
>>540511309they need to add fortification like dota
>>540511446Deadlock is supposed to be much faster (more snowbally) than those. Don't lose lane.
I really miss the base vents to mid boss
>>540511575I don't lose lane, because I buy healing sustain items. Then people come on 4chan and seethe that they can't kill me and that they should be removed so they can win the game in the first 8 minutes.
i always laugh to myself whenever i see a guy with 40 hp stay in their lane because they refuse to "lose" it and they end up even worse off if they just went back to heal.
if - in a closed alpha - you are picking strong heroes instead of picking heroes you like, you are using other player builds instead of making your own, you are metaslaving instead of having fun then you are brown and you will always be brown and you will return to africa to stay with your people
what are chances they change sinclair abilities?
>>540512416>You can only play for FUNI have fun by winning I'll use whoever and whatever is the best in the game, and people like me are the majority. Go back to troon fagass 2
>>540512585Very low, just look at shivs 3. They would rather tweak the whole game around it than just give him a different ability
>play mostly abrams and other short range gun characters>piss around on the M1 carries>can harass and kill everything from half the map awayI don't get how people can play gun carries and not perform well, it's the easiest thing in the world
>>540512416you remind me of dumb dotards proud their game didn't have a meta (before valve added role queue to confirm the meta)
>>540512416But I tried to play gun lash and it fucking sucked.
gun door man is insanely good>>540512879try gun doorman
>>540512585I think they're going to change his bolt, just dunno how
eido is a huge fagvegas is /ourguy/
>>540512636>>540512884you'll never be good at the game by copying others and you'll never be a pro, mohammed
>>540513261all streamers are lame
>>540513347As someone who's played an esport professionally for a few years, stealiny strats is exactly how you prosper at the highest level. Do you think when we scrim matches that both teams are like "well that was fun there's absolutely nothing I can take from my enemy" you'll never improve by trying to force whatever your headcannon is as good.
>>540513261vegas acts like he wants to be subtly acknowledged as an epic 4channer so hes cringe
I have no idea what to do with Vindicta past laning phase.
>>540513261Eido is a huge fag I remember when he played the finals no one liked him then either.
>>540513261>brown (like 4chan)>white (unironic obese disneykid)I wonder.
I think I might just retire moba-like games for good. I get losing, but this is just brutal. I'm pissing in an ocean of piss, but for all the fun lore and gameplay it has, the actual elements of the game with matchmaking make it not very fun. >get back into deadlock>have tons of fun playing as paige>18/20 games winning since I decayed from phantom>finish a game as dynamo, get a double 4 man blackhole, win the game>fuck yeah, shout the gamer word>get comm banned, lolwat, w/e>play anyway, not like I chat much>have an ivy go 0-8 in 5 minutes in my lane>??? wtf>repeat>games are some of the most ridiculous stomps I've seen>10 losses in a row this week, forced 50, I get it>next>30k difference at 15 minutes, no walkers, 4 of my team are 0-x-0>abandon and uininstall
>>540513637you are not a dota player and this is an icefraud game so I will tell you, in order to be good at this game you'll need to have experience having played every single character in every single way possible because the game will eventually have enough depth where slight build variations will make enough difference in winning or losing a match and the community doesn't even scratch the surface of this game because it just mindlessly copies streamerchudsfor instance icefraud added naix/necrolyte/leoric to this game and people unironically don't even think of buying armlet of mordiggian in it at the streamer level because they are all team shooter ape players
Ivy X Lash is my otp
>>540514409Only ESLs use those names for dota heros.
>play mcginnis>win>play sinclair>lose
>>540510112Go post it on the forums.
>>540513261I've played a slew of competitive FPSs over the last decade. There are way too many obnoxious players like eido and vegas who have huge egos because they're good at a video game. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority have some sort of mental issue like bipolar or narcissism.
>>540514892reminds me of that dota player who wrote an autobiography lol
well?
I hate having to hold ctrl, crouch should be togglable
>>540515012if you're the goat at a video game i'd say you're qualified to write a book on winning at video games
>>540515214>buy 6400 item>gets countered by every basic dispel
SHOOT THE ORBSPLEASEI BEG YOU
>>540515279and I will treat it as a book written about being good at video games - an object of ridicule. development history books like masters of doom or even raising the bar are more interesting.
>>540515398I will harass with my gun instead (abrams btw)
>>540513261vegas does the whole "le positive vibes ;)" schtick with his twitch stream titles. the only nigga i liked was Zeno who called people pedophiles and trannies but he's gone now
>>540515398>DENIED
>>540515240No one wants this
>>540515398nothing makes me tilt harder than watching my teammate m1 the other creeps into a crescendo of back to back "denied!" and not stopping when asked to
>>540515012Obnoxious Dota players (and I guess LoL but never played) are definitely bigger sociopaths than FPS players. Think of the type of person who intentionally feeds and runs down mid for 30+ minutes. A living human in a game, letting their character get killed to spite the other 4 players on their team. I've seen it happen a few times in some games (CS, Valorant, Siege) but Dota is basically a madhouse.
>>540515214Great item
what FPS would you say is the minimum playable?
>>540515693ah yea, reminds me of that lefaa video posted with him literally screeching in that high-pitch whine
>>54051589060
>>540515890120 is good enough I haven't tried less60 is probably good enough as people played shooters on 60hz monitors for decades
>>540515937oh, I was expecting minimum 120
>>540515890100
>>540516037it's not a twitch shooter like CS or whatever, 60 should be fine
>>540515214Is this basically Mystic Reverb, but for all damage over a few seconds?
>>54051589030
>>5405158901 fps. At 0 fps I think the game doesn't work anymore
>>540516292yeah, it silences and repeats 30% of all damage received for the duration
>>540516292>>540516741Something that's very important to note about focus lens is that the damage it deals afterwards is "TRUE" damage. It is not bullet nor spirit damage so resistances don't apply to it .
>>540515693>PicContext?
>>540475118>gookclicker>dotadrooling retard
>>540474135The more I play Mina, the more convinced I become she's overpowered. Her 1 basically becomes a Shiv execute. Her ultimate is one of the best objective clearing abilities in the game that is hard to actually counter. If you try to use knockdown on her, she can dodge it during the ultimate anyway using her teleport. Her teleport is fucking crazy good and should be nerfed to the ground. Her 1 heals her more than any other ability in the game heals anyone and is an overpowered farming item. I just went 9/0/15 on her and I wasn't even trying. 2 stamina and small health pool is not enough to justify this kind of insane power. Her ultimate shouldn't ALSO silence when it literally melts a single target in seconds. It melts objectives in seconds so there's no effective counter and it has a short cooldown of 42 seconds, so you can hit with it, run and return back to do it again. You can steal enemy neutrals in seconds too. All because she has small health pool? I would gladly give 30% off of my mains health pool to gain overpowered abilities like this. Don't even get me started on her passive that is utterly broken from the start. Why the fuck are people defending this hero? Cheap as fuck.
>>540517085mina sisters...ARISE. GET THE DISCORD.
>>540475118Deadlock is unironically more solved than dota thoughbeit. Dota has 100x the interactions than deadlock does. I'm not sure how you think the game was "solved 10 years ago" when they've added 80+ items via neutrals, new map objectives changed the map 3x or more since then added 2 passive facet options per hero some go up to 4 or 5. Added multiple new heros and altered game balance as a whole through reworking base mechanics. You can't "solve" something that changes constantly. Dotas knowledge check will always be infinitely harder than deadlocks no matter how much you seethe.
getting real tired of this shit matchmaking, getting archons and emissaries in my alchemist games
>>540517372>>540475118no more brother wars
>avoid deadlock for a few days after a bad loss streak>feel good about it today>two more lossesValve does not want me to play this game
every match today has at least 3 people going 0-10 on one team.
honestly I think you'll need a pretty beefy computer to play this game with a good fps in teamfights late game, I'm talking 9800x3D with tuned ram and a 9070 xt minimum
Damn i did not realize you got penalized for dying during last pusg and leaving. patron was 90% dead. Trying to save 20 seconds is too much.
>>540515214worse silence wave
When inner house
>>540517990I do that pretty often and it's never happened to me. Guess I'll stop from now on just in case
>>540517990are you sure you didnt abandon lol
>>540517085No argument from general. I conclude that my argument is flawless and concede your defeat /dlg/ shitters.
>>540516916peruvians are infamous for being horrible at dota. Yes worse than the rest of south america and muttistan.
Another beautiful day on INITIATE lobby
>play pocket>stomped>stomped>stompedno more
>>540515890200>inb4 90 is okay because Im poor and brown
>>540518885damn epic smurf bro grats
>>540517085>I won one game in pisslow - the blogpost
>>540519105I am not a smurff though. this is my first win with Dynamo. I just decided to buy magic carpet this time and it worked wonders.>stomp creeps in one lane, switch lanes with magic carpet>stomp those creeps>repeat until you winPaige died in two stomps
this game is too hardi keep playingi will be good one day
>>540517085She's so much fun though.>Enemy is trying to get midboss>I push out minion wave>Rush towards the patron>Enemy team sees this and starts to run back>My team engages them>They have to back>We take midboss>We're not in their base>We kill them and win
>minionnigga thinks this is a pixar movie
>>540517085Changes she needs to have:>RakeIncrease cooldown to 24 seconds. Remove 6% health as damage. replace with increases damage to enemy by 12% or applies love bite instantly. >Sanquine RetreatRemove 2nd teleport entirely. Make first teleport much, much slower. Increase teleport distance to compensate. Add charges. Buying extra charges gives 10 second cooldown between uses. >Loving BitesLeave it as it is. I hate it but it's what makes her the shitty bitch she is. >NoxIncrease cooldown by 10 seconds and make the cooldown upgrade reduce only 20 seconds. Remove silence, replace it with a 30% slow instead.
>open random stream on twitch as a background noise>suddenly streamer start complaning that his stream viewership numbers are dying, his life is going nowhere and he feels depressed>can hear him crying>he ends the stream before the game ends
>>540519494there's an epidemy of streamers/youtubers doing this, it's insufferable
>>540517085>NOOOO HER WINRATE BRO NOOOOO LOOK AT THE WINRATE BROOOOOOO
>>540501868>I protect you, you protect me>I'll protect you while you shopLol, lmao even
>>540517085>I would trade 30% of my health pool for more damageFound your problem, terminal dps brainrot
Just carry harder. :)
>>540519494People trying so hard to make it on youtube or twitch or whatever and failing makes me so sad. Should always be a side thing from your day job unless you actually make it then you can quit and then try full time.
>>540519979no remorse for paige sissies. Suffer
>>540515214Pretty good an Drifter for characters that like to spam abilities when you catch them.Hope they don't buy debuff remover though, if they do, Curse will be better
>>540519979dont play support then retard
>>540519494>open random deadlock stream>obnoxious zoomers spouting meme phrases, saying "bro" every other word and being loud because LOL LOUD IS FUNNY
Why does Doorman's whole demeanor strike me as someone who is extremely racist behind closed doors?
>>540520181>all that>uses zoomer memewhat are you complaining about, their stream seems perfect for you.
>>540515214>>540520079Some people like to say Curse is better but the extremely good argument in favor of focus lens is that it has half the cooldown of both curse and debuff remover AND silences longer than curse and silence wave
>>540520289Because you browse /dlg/ and associate him with 4chan.
>>540520339t. zoomer
>>540520289Maybe because he is White in the 50s?
Come up with a new kit for him leaving only his ult unchanged.
>>540520564how bout you just get hotpoo to design a real ass ult instead of just literally copying the work of others.the hell is valve paying this clown for?
>>540520289Well, I think it's pretty apparent that he looks down on mortals.
>>540520289he sounds and looks like a stiff gay guy too afraid to leave the closet
>>540520289>could have looked like literally anyone>chose to be a tall thin blue eyed ginger in a uniform
doorman looks like he's wearing a buttplug and afraid people will notice it
>>540520785>>540520957>projecting faggots
played my first game of yamato. was unimpressed. hero is pretty clunky. not as clunky as bebop though.
>>540520504>50s
>>540493796No need to worry about this. Russia is getting nuked before the game is out.
doorman just looks like a wagie
>>540520289if by racist you mean doesn't give a shit about mortals beyond something to kill time then yeah
there are some big problems idk how icefraud will fix in this game>1) people need to pick healers/supports but there's no incentive to do so, without them you can't win teamfights>2) people need to let the scaling characters farm the safest farm and the less scaling character need to farm the contested farm, but there's no incentive for them to do so>3) there are too many buttons to press and in this game you already need wasd shift ctrl space for moving so it's really difficult to have more than 5 active buttons to press>4) teamfights late game are super hard to read because of too much shit going on and you're focused on shooting and the camera is very close to your character, you can't really strategize how to initiate, makes the game too pubbish and not esportish enough
>>540520289That's sort of the whole idea behind his character. He is a higher being pretending to be a mortal and working in service industry for fun.>I haven't slaughtered men like this for years, what a treat!>>540521672Motherfucker, you posted that image seconds before me.
>>540520679What he randomly swapped positions of all members of the enemy team?
>>540519989>People trying so hard to make it on youtube or twitch or whatever and failing makes me so sad.it shouldn't. they should have realized the stream game is controlled by media groups propping up selected people behind the scenes. to give up your day job is to jeopardize your livelihood
>>540520679Seeing how he fucked up ROR2 so badly with balance, and then had terrible foresight enoguh to sell his ip to fucking gearbox, I would say they hired him as a joke to laugh at him.
ANOTHER FUCKING MATCH TURNED INTO A 40K DIFFERENCE IN A 4TH LOSS FUCK
>>540521463no way, noticed holliday looks like a cowboy?
do you add anything to launch options?
Valve should add a Chinese hero to deadlock.
>>540522464return to your containment board.
>>540522398cowgirl*
>>540522464WHO WANTS SOME WANG?
>>540522209I like sinclair and vyper tho. vyper needs a slight rework, but the kit idea is solid
>>540522464deadlock needs more cracker heroes tbqh
>>540522684this is also the guy who said he "ran out of ideas for ROR2"
>>540522209imagine selling your creation that took years of your life to randy pitchford.
>>540522514This is the containment website.
>>540522913deadlock has a lot more mechanics and variables going on than ROR2 thobeit
If you hate trophy collector you're getting no head.
I feel like I have a hard time staying relevant as Viscous the longer a game goes on. Eventually starts to feel like I don't really do any damage. I know "Early Game Heroes" aren't exactly new to mobas, but any suggestions?
>>540523515phantom strike + ult is a staple disrupting anti carry combo
>>540523515stop trying to deal damage and just perma stun niggas with phantom strike + warp stone + duration extender
The game is insanely unbalanced in case even a single lane of your team mates ints or a single payer leaves.Usually games have comback mechanics where taking the lead back is possible, like bounties etc. But in deadlock its literally impossible to win if your """carry""" lane goes 0/14 in ten minutes against a mo and lash.Just like that, you lost the game.If you want to itemize against the fed members, the rest of their team will have an easy time pushing the advantage.You can never get objectives because they'll just boost in and zone you with their advantage.Them doing absolutely fuck all and just not showing on the map with a lead means you can't do anything either.Your jungle is always cleared out, either by on of your troglodyte feeders or the enemy.Anywhere outside of your walker is begging to be oneshot by 3 suddenly materializing out of thin air.Etc etc.The ONLY way to get a lead back is if you steal the mid boss, but that won't happen if the enemy doesn't ever need to do it. You cant do it yourself because you'll be off cooldowns, and have an overall weaker comp, guaranteeing a loss if the enemy responds.Unless the enemy completely fucks up and throws lead after lead, it feels almost impossible to come back from a lost early game that wasn't even your fault.They need to introduce some sort of comeback mechanic or feed prevention shit.Also, if one of your team mates leaves, especially the inting ones, the game should not count as a loss. Ever. You did not lose that game. Your team mate deciding to go 0/10 then quitting did, for you, oh so generously.Make the leaver eat the loss of 6 players, I don't care. I should not be losing games where I curbstomp the enemy, only for one of my freak feeders to leave, resulting in everyone else leaving because "it's not worth playing anymore".
>>540523723why would you deserve a free comeback for going 0-14 in ten minutes
>>540523723they should add a 20 minute surrender button like league
>>540523723Oh right, maybe introduce a mechanic where guardians take less damage in the first five minutes or something.League has this, and it works well enough. Better than two of your guardians falling in quicker succession than the twin towers, forcing you to respond to assaulted walkers and leaving your third to die as well, exposing yet another walker. And like a cherry on top, the enemy gets more souls from this and forces you to always base for items 10 minutes in.Doesn't even matter if you're fed, if a single one of your team mates plays like a quadriplegic.
>>540523723>the game is insanely unbalanced because...the winning team has an advantage over the losing teamok
>>540522684Vyper should be deisgned around her slithering ability. Maybe give her skill that allows her to crawl up walls.
>>540524116>crawl up walls...why
>>540524157dunno, would be fun mechanic even if uselessmaybe add a trail after that allows your teammates to do the same and slows down enemies if they step on it
>>540523723why do you think the game is in alpha
>>540523723going 0/14 in lane is like literally refusing to block in a fighting game and getting hit by a sweep over and over. they can't design the game around 6 years olds playing it, they just need to get better
>>540517085Please delete this.
>>540517085I've heard enough, we're adding 10 more seconds to Abrams' ult cd
>>540523874I don't. Nothing should be free, but there should be ways to regain the advantage or at least level the field. Ones that the enemy can contest but that should still give an advantage to the losing team.Also, when I talk about "my "carry" lane" I don't mean MY lane, I mean a lane on *my team* that has two carries that somehow lost because they're completely retarded in the head.I usually win or go even in my lanes because I'm not a complete retard that picks fights I can't win. Unless it's against yamato. I can never win lane against that troglodyte hero. But at least I never die more than 4 times in lane.>>540523963I don't think this would be a good addition actually.In deadlock, if the enemy has a substantial lead, they'll always end sooner than later.Adding a surrender will just completely fuck the mental of your team if your even a slight bit behind, and all the rank spamming rats will be able to think about is the timer hitting 20 minutes until they can forfeit yet another game and go queue a new one, because god forbid they try to win.The only way this works, is if the people who don't vote to surrender don't get a loss, or just a half of one. It would discourage players from surrendering because "maybe someone else will and I won't have to lose", while also making it so that players who really really really dont want to finish the game have a way out if theres a consensus
>>540520564character needs a full character redesign more then a kit design, I dunno who wants to play a characters thats just two people bitching at eachother the entire time you're playing
>>540519979>paige playerYou should get beaten irl too
>>540524637>character needs a full character redesign more then a kit designThat's a Savannah idea
vyper needs an ability that would allow her to grab enemies with her tailthat would be so cool and scary haha
>>540524096You're a moron.You're saying the game should be over in 10 minutes just because a minority (figuratively and literally) in your team decided to feed their dick off while you play perfectly, just not against literal bugs that fly into your palm to get squished?No. That's fucking stupid and it will kill the game.
>>540522464Cringe>>540522683Based
>>540524616>don't mean MY lane, I mean a lane on *my team*I know, and you should talk about your team as a whole.
>>540523963kys>>540523723
>>540520564no, i like the current kit. roll back some nerfs, even.
>>540522683By the way, we have vampires and frankesntein's monster. Where's the cool demon hunter in the style of Huge Jackedman's Van Helsing?
>>540520564his kit is great. Maybe he just needs a little more health but i am not good enough at the game to form opinions
>>540525234
Not inhouse tonight the weekend?
>>540524914i've literally never seen someone die 14 times in lane
>>540487220newfag question but what are generally the best champs to build gun on?
>>540525572Ifernus, wraith, haze, ivy
>>540525145>Nooo broo you don't get it broo you should leave your lane, losing it in the process, to go to the complete opposite of the map to maybe, possible, hopefully, even out the losing lane your troglodye team mates threw.>What do you mean you played perfect? HAHA That doesn't matter in deadlock.>Don't you know. The game is won or lost before it even begins. It all depends whether you or the enemy get a shitter on their team.>In the next patch, you won't even need to play the game. The game will decide whether you are a shitter or not, and once the matchmaking is complete, the game.exe will compare which team has more shitters and end it there, awarding the win to the team that *wouldn't have* lost lane in five minutes. Might as well skip the 30 other minutes.Just make it so that guardians don't usually fall before minute ten so that your pigdog team mates can cower behind the guardian if they fuck their lane up or something, so that the other, competent, players can do something to further their chances of winning.
>>540525660maybe you shouldn't play team games
>>540525572>champs
Why does every deadlock girl have DSLs?
>>540525561Anon, I realize not everyone is a terminally addicted moba addict so I'll simplify.The kda of a lane is split between the players on it.So a two player lane will have theirs combined.If one has a score of 0/7 and the other has 1/3, the lane score is going to be 1/10.Which is why, when I talk about a lane going 0/14, I mean both of these RABID FUCKING DOGFUCKERS WENT 0/7 IN TEN MINUTES, DYING STRAIGHT OFF THE FUCKING ZIP LINE, MARCHING TO THEIR DEATH MORE WILLINGLY THAN RUSSIAN PEASANTS IN EVERY WAR THERE WAS.
>>540525234Warden after he gets an art pass
Valve should add registeel to Deadlock.
>>540525541I need my inhouse, so I can do troll builds vros
>>540525916this is a matchmaking failure, not a game design one. if you don't want the risk of bad teamates who refuse to listen to reason start playing fighting games or duel fps
>>540525920While I agree that warden's model doesn't suit him very well I hope they'll keep cop design for someone else. Someone comically nonchalant and obsessed with order.
>>540525854I'll correct myselfwhat are the best HEROES to build gun on?
why does warden shoot instant death lasers out of his feet again
Valve need to add a Glados/Cave Johnson patron announcer pack to Deadlock
>>540526285>heroeserm...acktually, it's Mystics.
>>540525812Okay, so you're just content losing a game through no fault of your own?There are no systems in deadlock where you can actually help your losing lane without significant loss to you personally.I'm fine with having to work harder to carry shit team mates, but the entire point of my first post was that there needs to be a way to do so.Right now, there is not, and the enemy can just constantly keep pushing their advantage with no downside to it whatsoever.For example, league has bounties, which means that if a really fed player gets cocky and loses, they give up more money than usual, allowing the team to recoup their loss.And no, dropped souls don't count because they only come from jungle and players usually don't carry a lot with them, but it's a start. Maybe they could expand on that and create a system where, after a certain point, a percentage of the souls the enemy would get from killing anything gets diverted into unsecured souls.
>>540526285paige, lash, seven, dynamosleeper picks don’t listen to /dlg/ shitters
Metro is LOSING it on stream rn!
>>540526285the best gun hero in the game is ivy and it's not even close, but these non-dotard shitters that just mindlessly copy streamers would never know
>retard says his wifi is fucking upDo people really play a PC game on wifi? Where the fuck do these people come from.
>>540526524every streamer is running the highdocker Ivy build these days, what are you saying nigger?
>>540526384>so you're just content losing a game through no fault of your own?happens occasionally in a team based game. if i didn't want this i'd play something like a 1v1 fighting game
>>540526571>why doesnt everyone live alone with their router in their room
>>540526384>league has bountiesDeadlock also has bounties too apparently and it's a hidden mechanic that isn't spoken of anywhere, but it's when the Patron makes a big fuss about a character.
>>540526187No anon. It's both.Players like this are not punished and your losses are not forgiven if something like this occurs.Since that is the case, there needs to be a way in game to make it possible to win if you do your best and make few to no mistakes.Otherwise, the game just becomes a parody, like I already illustrated, where the match might as well be over before it even starts, just by looking at your team mates.I'm telling you now. If the game stays like this, it is not a question of if, but when it will die. Most likely very, very soon.
you know what the game needs? a boots slot and options for boots
>>540526224Holliday. She looks and sounds like a NPC anyway
>>540525572Counting people who primarily want items that support their gun and deal gun damage>Bebop (yes really)>Billy>Drifter>Haze>Ivy>McGinnis>Mirage>Paradox>Vindicta>Vyper>Warden>WraithOther characters might run gun items but aren't full committing to gun damage and want them for specific buffs (i.e. infernus and mina want fire rate even though most of their damage should be spirit) also some characters not mentioned here CAN have decent builds that run gun items but it's not the most meta build for them i.e. kelvin, viscous, paige, etc.
>>540526571why hasn't technology solved wifi
>>540526668holy shit shut the fuck up you dysgenic, dishonest grifter
>>540526462it's funny
>>540526948again, maybe team games aren't your forte.
>>540526784>>540526948You have zero understanding of what a team game entails, keep to singleplayer.
>>540527085Maybe he wants to help his team, but this game discourages helpful behavior in early game according to him>goes to help out other lane and push guardian in one blow as wardentotally not his fault
>>540526621Lightbringer is better.
>>540526674
NO MORE new heroes please.Focus on fixing the game as it is.So many games fall into this trap of having to release more and more content to keep the consoomer masses happy, but completely forego the shit they introduced.And with every new patch adding new content, more shit gets fucked up.NO MORE new heroes until release.Fix your game first.Starting with gutting Mina like a fish and tossing her on the ice, as is deserved.
It's funny how whenever spirit actually scales compared with gun people have genuine meltdowns yet all people used to whine about here was how spirit should be super strong, now we have Seven and Warden ult that melts entire teams, Talon arrows doing 1k damage and proccing spirit burn on everyone, and shit like Mina and you're all bitching about that shit. It's like 90% of the retards here don't understand how balance works and why spirit should be stronger early but gun later.
the most fun heroes in the game are abrams, pocket and paradox. everyone else you just do the same shit every single game and buy the same shit every single game or they just kinda suck
>>540527404shut yo monkey ass up
>>540527249I want to help my team and win even if they fuck up but leaving lane means your solo laner gets killed (unless it's a stall hero like ginnis) and they get a guardian instantly because they have no health and fall in literal seconds unless there is someone on lane to clear waves.
>>540527249MOBAs are a game of resource management. Naturally if you allocate your lane's resources elsewhere, it becomes weaker.Now if you had dominated and stomped your lane, you could easily rotate over to assist without losing your lane, assuming your partner also benefited from your stomp and your enemies are weak and frail and scared.
>>540525916You're not gonna stop them from acting like discarded neuralink test apes no matter how much you change the game design to coddle them, anon. Regardless of how many counter-incentives you put in place some people with a cerebrospinal milkshake for a brain will just treat the ASSFAGGOTS match like it's 24/7 insta respawn 2fort and attempt to W+M1 brool every single second they spend not respawning. Best you can do is start going ivy/mcginnis/mina/seven and start ratting every single farmable thing in the map until you can simply statcheck whoever got fed to death
>>540526674nigga i'm the laziest person ever and even I ran a fucking ethernet cable to my roomit's so easy and the wire is like 20 bucks even for a long one, jesus christ. Wifi is so fucking ass to play on with the random drops
>>540527806what do you do when you have company over and they see a cable running across the floor in your place
>>540527652>means your solo laner gets killedMight be a low elo thing for you but try telling them you're leaving for a moment after clearing the wave, and all they need to do is show some lane presence while also playing passively. Just communicate with your lane partner. If your lane partner is ass at the game, then focus on getting guardian as fast as possible, even if you die 2 times MAX since dying early doesn't have much consequence.
Where is he?
>>540528031who caresalternatively, spend another 5 dollars on cable management
The more I play Doorman the more I feel like his portals are half baked, I mean I can forgive them being janky cause whatever might take time to fix that but really there's just no reason to use them except for meme vortex web cart plays and as an escape tool. I really wish they could be more interesting, like why not make it so bell max upgrade does extra damage through them, or maybe make it so his gun deals more damage through them I don't know. I even tried testing out rescue beaming through them and that doesn't even seem to work at least when I tried it in the sandbox, he's still fun to play but it just feels bad barely having a real use for them.
>>540527632>yowho's the real monkey here
>>540528484yo momma
>>540528525run along little shawn
>>540528417>secure urns faster>steal jungle with teammates>mid boss shenanigans>etc.it's only as powerful as your imagination
>you're the only person communicating any information at all for 20 straight minutes>show a single ounce of verbal exhaustion with your team needing constant supervision to not lose entire lanes of objectives>"i'm muting this guy"the only thing worse than a mute retard is a mute deaf retard
>>540528031try not making friends with superficial people that would care about a fucking cable running along the corner of the ceiling.or do it right and run it through the walls.
>>540528643>shawn>sean
Uhh bros I slept on reactive barrier, I didn't realize how hard it scaled late game I was getting a 700 barrier whenever I got CCed it actually stayed pretty decent
>>540528417Low iq take, they literally have infinite utility
>>540528725N
>>540528702Idk maxxing out door earlier just for urns feels like it's gonna neuter your kit early on max cart and low CD ult is just too good on him, I do steal jungle with it but that applies to what I said about using it as just a basic escape tool, Pocket and Wraith do that too.
>>540528248>>540528718incel behavior
>>540528716I don't need you to tell me in the gamer accent shit I can see on my map, if you're going to elevate from annoying to actively making my experience worse pointing out the obvious (we're losing) then yes I'm going to mute you. how is a bad game enhanced by you sighing in my ears
It's crazy to think Kelvin on top of already being cancer used to be able to just dome urn
>>540529050Imagine getting filtered by the (lack of) cable management skills so hard you crash out in 2 posts
i can host inhouse now if you want
gun ivy is just broken
Reactive should have a t4 upgrade that lets you stack barriers cause fuck CC trannies
there's no way mid boss stays as an ayy lmao cyclops right? what would they change it to?
>>540530320I actually hope gun Ivy doesn't get nerfed and that she gets to be broken as long as Seven simply because of the downplaying by the entire community including /dlg/>Wahhh her gun is so weak>All the "xD better nerf Ivy" memes as if she wasn't broken as fuckWas genuinely nauseating to read
>>540526674I'm brown, third world and not living alone at the moment.I have a 2k PC and about to get 800 mbps fiber with a long ass cable running across the house, setup is ready and just waiting for provider.The cable is like 8 bucks, there's no fucking excuse.
>>540530431It scales with spirit so you can have a 600 barrier with a good spirit build.
>Get Archon or Phantom team>Pretty competent, respond to pushes, can exist as a support>Get Oracle team>Nothing but jungle niggers that brool their bags away while never defending anything
In house code: V6HSX1/12
>>540530565I'm more bothered by his non-existant combat mechanics. In Dota and even in Shite jungle boss has various attacks that you need to keep in mind.
>>540530776Just have it cap out at 2 barriers and maybe it gives you a mild spirit power and move speed buff, chain CC is unfun to play against >Inb4 unstoppable Wastes another active slot and isn't a good buy on a lot of heroes
>>540530320Ivy has literally never EVER been weak in the history of DL.If it's not gun it's spirit if it's not spirit it's support if it's not support it's tank utility or anything in between.That's what happens when you "design" something that does literally everything and scales with everything, she excels at every single thing in the game and has no downsides.CC?Nuking?Tanking?Healing?Spirit damage?Gun damage?Area control?Defending?Escape?Split pushing?Urn carrying?Supporting?Saving?Mobility?Ganking?It's yours my friend, as long as you're "designed" by the absolute hack that is Icefraud.
>>540529606he's probably not allowed to because he stills lives with his mom and she's embarrassed by him
>>540530948I also forgot to mention that barriers take resistances into account, so if you have reactive and spirit resilience (which you should in this spirit meta) you'll have even more barrier. Though the only problem is the cooldown being 22s.
>>540530852I've posted about this before Oracle is peak midwit rank where everyone has an ego despite still not being that good at the game so they play like very selfish faggots
>>540531125Yeah but I'm moreso saying it should be a thing so I can justify keeping it if the game runs that late
>the patrons give freely>don't actually give freely, demand a ritual
Why does Kelvin's beam phase through abrams upper body and head in the test room?
What a 30 minute, 11/0 Victor game looks like.Call me Frankenstein the way I keep this monster alive.
>>540531302True, from what I recall, they only made it scale with spirit because the old version of reactive didn't do that and fell off pretty quick. I guess if you're getting quad cc'd then it might just be a skill issue/positioning issue/etc, or the other team really doesn't like you. Next best thing is getting another barrier item. I wish rebuttal upgraded to counterspell though.
>>540531403Blue no hurt blue, basic maths
INHOUSEV6HSXV6HSXV6HSX
>>540531659how many slots?I can play in like 8 minutes
>>5405317143/12 FilledYou'll make it in,
>>5405317143/12 right now
>>540531579There's positioning issues and there's being the biggest threat on your team so yes, you do get targeted. There's also situations like getting Paradox swapped or Bebop hooked into Mo ult or some shit, plenty of combo util that can happen and be pretty punished for slipping up once, I am not claiming I am a god tier player but CC combos are going to happen at times.
>>540531645Doesn't really answer the question, man
>>540531659shit. I can't today.I was going to try out fastball dynamo.
>>5405316596/12
>>540528031what? you put them in the ceiling retard with prong things
>>5405316598/12
>>540531105Robin Walker designed her.
>>540528031Are you genuinely retarded?5 years old?
>Ping mid because we just lost a few people and I think they're doing it>My team goes over>Get on mic and say "oh nice they're not doing it nevermind">My team starts mid >They start mid>When Dynamo with refresher had just spawned back inI have 1100 hours and this might be the dumbest shit I have ever seen
>>540531659Need 2 more players.V6HSXV6HSXV6HSX
>>540531105to be fair, the most OP heroes are the first-pass deadlock heroes/NP ports. the august '25 hero batch kits are all relatively well balanced (even mina), there's more of a "created with current day deadlock in mind" feel to them
I LOVE LOSING GAMES IN THE LANING PHASE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE HAVING NO AGENCY OVER ANOTHER LANE AND THEM TURBO LOSING THEIR LANE AND THEN WE JUST GET SNOWBALLED ALL GAME BECAUSE THERE'S NO COMEBACK MECHANICS YAAAAY SO FUN
ACAB
>>540534154Warden isn't a cop you retard tranny.
>>540534025To be fair that's a pretty miserable matchup for them
>>540534202Its called a JOKEOKEYou loretard
>>540534349kys tranny retard
>>540534202>a person responsible for the supervision of a particular place or thing or for ensuring that regulations associated with it are obeyed.close enough
>>540531105ivy has protag privilege, especially given how well received the character ended up being shes never not going to be pretty fucking good at absolute worst, same with abrams and a bunch of other characters
>>540534416Since youre the loremaster and everything has to be canon, whoch girl has the longest penasss
>>540533935Taking fat ogre shit and then i can sitIn spectator slot.
>>54053165911/12
>>540531105>mobatards when a character in a video game doesn't just press Q and auto attackthe characters having depth is a good thing, more characters need to be on ivys level instead of there being a bunch of boring ass M1/toss nuke at crowd characters
>>540531659One more before we start. I'll post match id incase people want to spectate.
>>540534349>>540534416Quiet down, both of you. We all know Warden is the tooth fairy.
>>540531105Ivy has a nuke?I guess if aoe AIDS counts, sure
>>540534638>boring ass M1/toss nuke at crowdThis is LITERALLY IVYS KIT YOU DUMB NIGGER
>>540534025>urn easier to deliver if you're behind>more money from kills when behind>lowest income people on a team get money literally from nothingany others I'm forgetting?
>>540534638>ivy's levelshe has the best rotation ability in the game, can fly around scouting, and an invulnerable stun/counter initiating stun. I think it would be difficult to make new kits as strong as she is. and again, to be fair to the devs, it's a character that just evolved into a beast with the new maps and the new meta, she's a pretty good design kit-wise
>two drifters Lmfaoooo
If game already started, post matchid please
>>540534903>she has the best rotation ability in the game, can fly around scoutingusing her ult>an invulnerable stun/counter initiating stunthat's telegraphed as fuck and has very specific range
It's another episode of:>team refuses to group and push and always falls back to farm after any kill or objective as the game dredges to 40min+ even when it was 6v5 for 20mins with leaver on other sideI would take the brawlfest of of Initiate any day over whateverthefuck is going at Ritualist lately.
>>540535269Im spectating it the old fashioned way, by watching over my roommate's shoulder as he plays
>>540535358it doesn't matter if her stun is telegraphed, the fact that she can turn into a hyper farm hyper carry with that ability is what makes her stupid strong. to disengage haze has a 1 time sleep dagger and her ult which both have clear counter-play.
who else should i play if i like ivy
>>540535405Neat if true
>>540535545haze
Match ID is 43349907
>>540535576don't like her design
>>540535667Vyper then, shes also a furryshit design
>>540535497>. to disengage haze has a 1 time sleep dagger and her ult which both have clear counter-play.and the ability to literally become invincible+invisible+heavily boosted speed on charges on a duration that can be almost as long as its cooldown without any real item investment
>>540535712i like furshit but not vyper
Abrams is such a retarded fucking hero.Yes, I buy rebuttal.Yes, I always parry him at lest once.But no matter what, even if I return the full force of his attack and then some, he just takes no damage, heals it all back, slams then melees with no counterplay, and wins the fight.There is basically no counterplay to abrams, and the only answer being "buy more items against abrams" is fucking retarded.His shoulder slam should NEVER be a confirmed melee hit.It should put him in melee range and be used as a repositioning/cc tool, but it should not combo into a confirmed melee that unironically oneshots you with full green investment.Retarded hero for spastic helmet donning downie quadriplegic moronic retards. Absolutely zero skill required to play him.Bonus points if he stomps your similarly retarded team mates in lane and becomes utterly invincible.
>>540535846I fucking hate haze with a passion. so do not believe I'm arguing this as if I like haze or even believe haze shouldn't get some nerfs either. but ivy is clearly a very strong hero, and a "telegraphed stun" does not meaningfully detract from how good she is.
>>540535931just jump over the slam and shoot him in the face lol
>>540535667>>540535712haze should look like this fuck you yoshi make her look like this
>>540536129You should kill youself fuck you furfag make yourself scarce
>>540536129that's literally calico
is this shit ever worth buying?
>>540535545wraith or goatman
>>540536212nah>>540536251not really dough
>>540536129Calico should look like nagatoro
All dynamo abilities should be increased base on spirit
>>540536568But then she wouldn't be black
HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE PATCH NOTES
>>540536656WHERE?
>>540536656lmao, they nerffed shiv again
>join inhouse>nobody uses their micsk never again
is it just better to always right click on shiv as long as the enemy is fairly close?
>>540536286on invulnerable zero damage heroes (mo)
>>540536286Can be good on support heroes to throw on any frontliner.
>>540537034no because momentum
>>54047832410/10 ending
someone let me know when next inhouse is
>>540537542tomorrow
billy method acting
>>540537542DING DING DING
>>540538159except his voice is 1000 octaves higher
>>540538198Why do all americans in games sound like that thought it was lefaa soundboard at first because of what a whining bitch he is
Spectating for 8ish minutes while I prep food.Full speed autism calico is pretty fun, wish there was a fully speed oriented T4
>>540538159absolute retard on the comms lmao, typical faggot
Never seen a throw that hard, good job
If you are having trouble against a paradox, fed or not, you are poopoo.
>>540538159Something about deadlock just brings the worst out of me, sorry. I'm nowhere near this mad playing anything else.
>Play deadlock>winning>see mina>moan so loud I wake up my roommatewhat is the counter to this?
>>540537542we still have the lobby posted abovejust finished a match>>540538159wait do people rage fr I do get pissed at certainly plays but I can’t sperg out at the dlg fellas
>>540538608add mina on steam and send her a cumtrib
>>540538687Yeah the Billy was whining like a little bitch all game I thought it was a lefaa soundboard because of how much a nasally little shit he sounded like
>>540538687He was more just annoyed/frustrated in that high pitched american gamer voiceI don't really care too much, if your gonna complain playing Billy while doing it is just funny to me.
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>>540538386I had fun though, since I am high as Warden in the sky.
>winning game hard>one player leaves, not like he was doing bad, just decides to leave>still winning, can easily 5v6>one more player leaves>we start losing>everyone but me leavesIM SO FUCKING SICK OF LEAVERSMAKE IT SO THAT IF SOME IDIOT DISCONNECTS, IT DOESNT COUNT AS A LOSS FOR THE OTHER PLAYERS AND THE DCER TAKES A LOSS EQUAL TO THAT EVERYONE ELSE WOULDVE TAKEN IM SO FUCKING SICK OF THESE GAMESEVERY SINGLE LOSS IVE HAD IN THE PAST TWO DAYS IS BECAUSE SOME RETARD EITHER FED, DCD OR BOTH.I CANT FUCKING DO THIS GET ME OUT OF INITIATEIM CONSISTENTLY THE BEST OR AT LEAST SECOND BEST PLAYER ON OUR TEAM, BUT ITS JUST SO FUCKING RETARDED WHEN YOUR TEAM LOSES THE GAME FOR YOU
Warden IS a cop, moron, a british cop, they all look like that.
>>54053906811/12
>>540539217idk about dota 2 but in csgo valve does not give a fuck if your teammates leave.
>>540539483It's the same in Dota 2. The game only doesn't count if it's before 5 minutes or before first blood
>>540539068Still need a player. Also are these the same teams as last match or did they get shuffled I forget.
>>540539547In Deadlock its only 5 mins or less. There's also a flag for the player if they don't move at all within 5 minutes and gets kicked for inactivity.
>>540539446chip chip cherrio bo'oh ah wa'ah and all that
disable two retards picking the same hero again please
SAGA
Saga ready please :)
>>540539897why are you so anti-fun
more like fagga lmao
>>540539897doesn't work, anyone can select the same one regardless. it's a quirk of the last heros getting added.
Capacitor vyper optimizing>0.25s internal cooldown>20% proc chanceNeed 20 bullets per second to hit the capVyper Base attack speed is 14.3 bullets per second+40% fire rate brings her to 20 bullets per secondCapacitor already has 8% so she needs 32%Cheapest way to hit this is Kinetic dash(+30%) +rapid rounds(10%) for 2400 totalNote:Surge of power (22%,3200$) +rapid rounds(10%,800) gets you exactly to the cap which is synced if you aren't going for cdrTranscendent cooldown will lower the internal cooldown 0.175snew capacitor cap is roughly 28.5 bullets per second which is just under +100% attack speedCapacitor is 8% so you need <92%, Slowing bullets is 7%, 85% left, Cheapest would be burstfire(45%,3200$),Kinetic dash(30%,1600)Rapid rounds[unsure if you can buy this while already having Burstfire , alternative blood tribute(40%,3200$)instead of kd+rr]Summary with no cdr>rapid rounds(800)>Surge of power(3200)>capacitor (6400)3 slot,10.4k souls and attack speed is optimized for base cdr capacitorSummary with cdr>rapid rounds(800)>Kinetic dash(1600)>slow bullets (1600)>burstfire(3200)>capacitor(6400)>Transcendent cooldown(6400)6 slots, 20k total souls for an optimized capacitor. Don't buy anymore cdr or fire rate or it will throw off the sync.
>>540540069>apply any sort of fire rate slow to you>none of that math mattered
>>540540291It barely matters anyways, its just so you save 1 bullet
>>540540364>>540540364>>540540364the world's drinking water is safe for another day
The truth is, gay talon murdered his own family so he could pursue his true love, Nigfernus.
>>540540465yikeskid types like its 2007
I've never seen so much damage. I thought I was doing good, but that dude nearly doubled mine.
