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Baldur's Gate 2 Edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

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Previous: >>541026437

>Thread Question
Thoughts on Baldur's Gate 2?
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>>541175438
If you don't like the characters, it's not for you
If you do like them, it's worth wading through until the map opens up
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>>541175854
unless your already a fan and entrenched in 40k bullshit the game wont be for you. its just not as good or appealing or even well written as owlcats other games. this game was strictly so they could branch out and license 40k and sucker in that crowd.
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>>541175935
>This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
>Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex,
Who is the jester who put Deus Ex in there?
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>>541175998
I kinda enjoy the characters, the Space elf is hot but doesn't want to be touched by a monkey, so fuck that one I guess. The Sister of Battle isn't a romance, so fuck me I guess. Actually come to think of it the romance options are really slim. As for the story I'm not a 40k fanatic and barely know anything about it
>>541176010
I guess it's just not really for me. Classes and gear is confusing, story would make more sense if I knew anything about 40k, characters too. Banter seems fun but it just doesn't hit the same as Wrath or Kingmaker.
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I enjoyed rogue trader up to chapter 2 but when I realized it was gonna be a 100 more hours of pretty much the same shit I got out.
The gameplay is just not interesting enough to carry a game that long.
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>>541176256
>Space elf is hot but doesn't want to be touched by a monkey
She holds your hand in the end
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>>541176274
Wrath mogs the shit out of RT every day of the week. romances are better, writing as a whole is better story is more interesting with a reasonable thread thats easy to follow, classes and powers are 1000x more fun and interesting too >>541176435
case in point
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>>541176256
>Space elf is hot
Uh oh, you're gonna trigger a lot of people's YDS
Actually I like the romance with the smuggler gypsy woman best of all. It's got a lot of interesting scenarios and is all around quite well done. The romance with the death cultist is popular with a lot of people too.
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I hate that Rage is shit while wearing Heavy Armor in BG3. It fucked up my Guts build. At least make it a feat or something
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Rogue Trader should have cut absolutely all of the chaos cult content. All the Final Dawn shit
Stick with aliens and necrons in particular as the antagonist du jour
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>>541176550
Why do waifufags pretend they care about anything else like this
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>>541176829
why do you assume he's a waifu fag? those seem like valid criticism to me. The writing in Rogue is just kinda bad.
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I guess I'lll replay BG3 whilst waiting for the new RT patch. Is Minthara worth a playthrough or should I just help the tieflings again?
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>>541176960
>first thing he mentions is romances
>major complaint is UHHGHGHHHHHH THE ELF DOESN'T FUCK ME
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>>541177054
Minathara is goated. My second choice if Karlach didn't exist.
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>elf
>sister
>psyker
There's only one unattainable woman for me
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So did BG3 make CRPGs mainstream again like DA:O did for a short time
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>>541177746
it did until people played other crpgs that didn't have the budget of BG3 and realized they weren't fully mo-capped / animated and voice acted then they just went back to play more BG3
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>>541177449
Is there an unspoken rule in 40k that your hair has to look stupid or like a bird's nest?
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>>541177746
>So did BG3 make CRPGs mainstream
Only to the extent that people under the rogue trader trailers were saying it looked like a "bg3 at home" and a "mobile version of bg3"
I guess SOME people may have ended up getting into the genre, but there was definetly no boom
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>>541177746
>like DA:O did
small fish in an even smaller pond, the only reason why that happened was because they churned those suckers out when nobody else was doing it
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>>541178097
It's wig apparently
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Commissar hat reveals that everyone has fake hair
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>want to start RT playthrough
>Lex Imperialis announces
>"guess I'll wait for a more full experience"
>finish a few games in the meantime
>"finally, time to-"
>major patch is announced
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>541178434
>>541178594
BG3 got one thing right and that was making people look good christ I cant stand these 2004 era graphics
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How come Yrliet gets the m-word pass? Isn't that kind of offensive?
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>>541177746
DAO is probably a good comparison because it definitely got a lot of people into the genre but I'd never call it mainstream. I've seen a good amount of people enthusiastically comparing RT to BG3 so it's obviously working on some people.
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>>541178673
okay
go post in that general instead of bothering the general for people to discuss numbers and imaginary sex then
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>Playing Kingmaker for the first time
>Some random black peasant is the strongest person I have by far, only my alchemist and bard are as good in terms of utility
>In his intro dungeon he gets the most busted bow I have ever seen

Uhhh, am I building everyone else wrong or is he just busted
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>>541179040
Why did you mention his skin color?
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>>541179040
You should have goats by now and they're way more busted
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>>541178918
You get an x-word pass
Fair is fair
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>>541179275
I've got the quest to go get the Twins but I thought a troll invasion was more important than helping a schizophrenic
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>>541178673
Ok, zoomie, fuck off now
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>>541179363
Nothing wrong with calling a xeno a xeno
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>>541178434
Rare case of character model looking better than their portrait
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I LOVE Rogue Trader. I plan on getting all of the achievements soon, but I'm going to wait to play more until the next patch.

>>541177449
based. I thought she was interesting and hot as well. Fun dual wield gameplay too, I wish we could select her dual wield perk for ourselves.

>>541177054
Yeah Minthara is awesome. You can save the tieflings and still recruit her by knocking her out with nonlethal btw.
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>>541179571
Yoohoo, don't forget me, shereen
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>>541179820
Better
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>>541179040
Ekun is pretty busted yeah. That bow is all he needs for the entire game (I think I swapped to one with higher accuracy sometimes later in the game tho)
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who else is high af right now? after beating the solasta 2 demo im now back to my regular solasta campaign. the demo improved on everything the ui felt way smoother, my only complaint is it didnt let me choose my own team comp. i know all the classes arent finshed yet but they have to atleast have one for each archetype done by now.
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Ekun be like: "I aim true!" *misses 90% of shots*
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*cloudkills your thread*
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>>541179731
Wait can't you just ignore literally all of act 1 and go straight to act 2 through the mountain pass?
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>>541180939
Yes, technically speaking you an 'win' bg3 by running to the end of act 2 ASAP and detonating the Tactical Gale
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>>541180939
you can, but that resolves the grove situation in favor of the goblins. Without the player's intervention, Minthara learns the location of the grove and destroys it, killing all of the tieflings.

So if you want the tieflings alive and Minthara recruited, you pick a fight with her (either in the goblin fort or during her assault of the grove, it doesn't matter) and knock her out.
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>>541181329
>killing all of the tieflings.
Oh no, how terrible. Anyway...
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>wizards says they want to make a dark sun game
It's owlcats time to shine
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>>541180578
but....demons are immune to poison
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>>541177054
>Is Minthara worth a playthrough
Not really
She's great, no issue with her, but she simply doesn't have nearly the content other companions get
No personal quest, her romance was kind of tackled on and changed in between patches, etc etc

However, if you never did an evil durge playtrough, that can be fun and Minthara can be the added bonus
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>>541181792
Owlcat should just do warhammer fantasy
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>dark sun
To complex and nuanced for owlcat. They could make a good birthright game however.
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>>541181792
>wizards says
stopped reading right there
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The fact that Larian tried to humanize monsters in this game like goblins, undead, and vampire spawn to the point that sometimes sparing them leads to you breaking your Paladin oath is just plain retarded and the most immersion breaking of the established lore. But Larian is trying to say "see!!! They are just like humans with feelings and it's society fault for stereotyping them as evil monsters!!!" When in dnd universe such an act of killing them wouldn't be considered murder but instead as simply destroying them as they are classified as monsters. It should be OKAY to kill monsters in Dnd universe, there should be no morality attached to it.

And this brings up my next point. The way the game handles the decision with the 7000 vampire spawn during Astarion's quest was one of the worst implemented ways to deliver a morally grey situation. You can tell the writers meant this as a "there are no right answers moment!!!" but choosing anything but mercy killing the literal 7000 hordes of undead creatures causes your companions to react badly, which comes off as patronizing. The poly gay tumblrina furry writers down at Larian Studios wished they had a fraction of talent from Dragon Age Origins writers to create compelling and morally grey situations. But no the monsters are just like black people and you're a bad person for having preconceived prejudices instead of giving them a chance mmkay
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I will mod pathfinder kingmaker and improve the tiefling romances
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I like how mutants are just plain bad people in RT
eg the mysterious plague is simply being caused by mutants being disgusting
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Wait is the illusive man supposed to be the bad guy?
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>>541183124
Maybe I'm speedreading, but it feels like you're contradicting yourself a few times there. Are you saying the vampire spawn should be exterminated like the evil creatures they are, or be given mercy?
>sparing them leads to you breaking your Paladin oath is just plain retarded
Paladins are bound to their sacred oaths. This has nothing to do with Larian. One oath could mean sparing the spawn, another could mean exterminating them.
>causes your companions to react badly, which comes off as patronizing.
The companions are not mouthpieces for the writers' views. You can only ask them to react in accordance with their worldviews.
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I want to play Baldur's Gate for the first time, preferably with no modern gameplay changes, wide screen support, and whatever QoL is available outside of compatibility and bug fixes. Does The Original Saga (seemingly just vanilla Baldur's Gate and Tales of the Sword Coast expansion pack) fit the bill? Any must-have patches?
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>>541184336
You need the mod that takes out the Beamdog trash.
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I don't get why the illusive man is bad.
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>>541182520
sorry, misheard you, they're now doing AoS
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Owlcat is a bunch of russians right? They should do a oriental adventures/kara-tur game since they are orientals.
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Gonna do one last run with Kibbles before she gets gutted.
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Once tge warhammer license expires they should do trench crusade. They would have much more creative freedom.
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>>541184773
>trench crusade
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>>541184336
EE fixes most stuff that needs fixing. You can download the tweaks anthology and read through what it adds to see if there's any components you'd like for QoL.
I'd recommend increasing the stack sizes for ammo and potions just to make things less annoying. There's also one that adds more bags to help with inventory management.
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>>541183659
>>541184390
He's always shrouded in darkness. That's not something that good people do
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Is it disrespectful to discuss Owlcat games without understanding Russian and thus basing your understanding on the flawed English translation?
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>>541184773
>trench crusade
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>>541184886
If he wants the real original experience the EE changes A LOT. bg1 was super different from 2 mechanically. Most people play it using bg2 mechanics whether through ee or otherwise but the original experience is super different.
Most of those changes are for the better imo but still.
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>>541183124
This isn't quite true. It depends on your Oath. Oath of Ancients breaks their oath for sparing them, because their job is destroying undead. So you shouldn't leave out the paladin oath that breaks when sparing them when complaining that sparing them breaks a different paladin oath. It comes off as dishonest.

You're also slightly mistaken as to what a vampire spawn is. Vampire spawn are featured in the Monster Manual because they are a common fun monster to slay, but not everything that is featured in the Monster Manual lack sapience, as drow, gith, illithids, and many other former simple monsters from the monster manuual are now playable races or neutral npc's. A vampire spawn is a cursed person, they still think and feel and have emotions, they are just cursed to seek blood and cursed to always follow the orders of their sire. If their sire orders them to kill you, then there's nothing you can do and you have to put them down in self defense. However, a free vampire spawn is just a person with the curse of vampirism, so they want to drink blood but they are otherwise a person. So the Oath that deals with always slaying undead wants to kill them, but the Oath that is about being a storybook hero prince charming breaks by killing them, because you're destroying a sapient person before they've had a chance to do anything wrong. For sins they haven't committed. Not very storybook prince charming of you.So yes, it actually all checks out and makes sense. You just sound like someone who should be playing Oath of Ancients instead of Oath of Devotion, since you have voiced an opinion that aligns with OoA instead of OoD. There's nothing wrong with that, you just discovered you fit better with a different oath. Not your fault, not Larian's fault, and not WotC's fault.

By the way, Oaths are not moral alignments. Oaths are convictions, but they're morality and alignment agnostic. Oath of Crown is just a simp for authority figures, zero morality, for example.
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>>541183872
>Are you saying the vampire spawn should be exterminated like the evil creatures they are, or be given mercy?
Sorry I had a typo there and meant the former. That in some cases exterminating them leads to oath breaking.

>Paladins are bound to their sacred oaths. This has nothing to do with Larian. One oath could mean sparing the spawn, another could mean exterminating them.
Yes but the way it was implemented is just black and white. It doesn't make sense why this would break a Devotion paladins oath when they are ALL about externinating the undead. They literally have an ability of Turn Undead that destroys the undead. Obviously in a dnd session whether an action is oathbreaking would be resolved between the DM and the player and this wouldn't even be a discussion but still, Larian obviously didn't give it much thought.

>The companions are not mouthpieces for the writers' views.
Nah most of my companions were against the decision of killing them. Even Laezel a gith said something like "they will not feed on innocents so what harm would they have done" which is just silly and presumptuous when they are undead HUNGRY vampires. The game was obviously trying to frame this as "there is only a morally good choice here" because Larian decided to frame the vampire spawns as helpless victims of abuse. At the same time they wanted to deliver this as a "morally grey" situation even though they've already chosen their side. It's like they wanted to have their cake and eat it too
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>>541185315
Well thanks for explaining. Though it does seem like OoD and OoA have swapped mechanics. Like OoD having "turn undead and fiends" and spellcasting abilities of OoD are tailored more for fighting the undead when this should be more suited for OoA
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Vampires in DnD are absolutely naturally evil or just really quirky depending on the whims by the writer. Dhampir is a race in the ravenloft supplement and we can't have evil races anymore. Yet lore wise vampirism remains a curse that takes away your humanity and turns you into evil no matter what.
It's really not clear how they want to handle it

In other settings like TES for example, vampires tend to be evil but are not necessarily so, they don't turn overnight when they catch the disease, the "curse" is a curse because when they die they get buttraped for all eternity, mainly.

I think killing vampire spawn in DnD should never break an oath, even one of mercy. In DnD killing a vampire IS mercy because its soul can now rest in peace, much like the OG Bram Stoker vampires, who could finally enter heaven when their curse was broken by them getting decapitated and killed, but that were turned evil while undead.
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What is something about Rogue Trader other anons hate, but (You) love
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>>541186484
Commoragh
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>>541184886
>EE fixes most stuff that needs fixing
I've searched through the archive and already found out what mods to install for EE. If I'll want to replay the game, I'll consider it, but for my first playthrough I want a vanilla, virgin BG experience, and a patch that fixes crashes and game-breaking bugs (if there are any) without adding any extra content. If such a thing exists, I want to hear what it's called. I'll rawdog the game (The Original Saga, I suppose) unpatched if modded EE is as close as it gets or if it doesn't require patches to function as intended in the first place (I'm just assuming it does due to its developer and age).
>You can download the tweaks anthology and read through what it adds to see if there's any components you'd like for QoL
l'm reading through the Tweaks Anthology page, it seems to mention "Cosmetic Changes, Content Changes, Rule Changes, Convenience Tweaks and/or Cheats, Joinable NPC Tweaks, and NWN-Style Feats", but not much about bug fixes, the only thing I care about right now.
>>541185184
Yeah, I'm not looking for the "convenient" way to play it. Just the original game without the potential developer-unintended bugs and crashes. Fallout 1 and 2 have several unofficial patches like that, for example.
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>>541185184
Even before EE I think I played BG1 without BGT maybe once.
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>>541186484
Ship combat
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>>541186070
Slaying zombies and scary evil undead monsters is storybook prince charming territory. It's just that in this case, the vampire spawn in question haven't done anything yet, so killing them becomes questionable. A paladin who believes strongly in being a storybook hero would second guess himself when he finds himself slaying 7000 innocent people on the grounds that they might be bad guys in the future. It's not a storybook hero thing to do. That's why killing most undead is fine and even encouraged, because if they've done something bad then prince charming should indeed slice their head right off. So it depends on the situation.

Meanwhile, OoA doesn't give a fuck lol. If you're an undead, you're automatically and already an affront to nature, so you deserve to be destroyed, no questions asked. OoA doesn't even care if you're innocent from the moral perspective, because OoA isn't about morality. They're morality agnostic. They don't care. They're a militaristic order the protects and serves nature and the natural order as dictated by nature-orientated deities and the planes themselves.

Lots of people dislike the new paladin system since it's not strictly LG/LE anymore, and suddenly there's a bunch of oaths who are running around doing whatever their oath says instead of following an alignment, but the exact sort of conversation we're having right now I think is actually kind of interesting, so I don't mind nu-paladins. It allows players to be any alignment they want and still play paladin, and it also allows a paladin to be about other things that LG/LE, like nature or the state or concepts like vengeance or conquest.

Plus, the other good news, is that if you do prefer the old paladin flavor, you can indeed just play a LG Paladin of Helm and that is 100% valid and you're just doing what you've done for the past 20 years. So old paladins are sort of contained within the nu-paladin system as an option. So theory everyone wins.

>>541186484
>>539950889
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Lmao
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>>541187653
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>>539950889
>I love it when devs deny my a obvious requested and popular romance option out of obvious malice so much I will craft fairy tales to defend them
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I think men have a subconscious desire to mate with tolkienesque elves. The primordial archetype of the pointy-eared slim ethereal beauty is the opposite of the fat big-tiddy fertility goddess and represents the reward of lean discipline and individualistic self-sculpting.

Bioware understood this, that's why all male romance options were elves in BG2 and not a chungus like Nalia.
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>>541188230
>replying to a 10 day old post to seethe
lmao
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>>541186668
I also like Commoragh. I wish it were its own standalone storyline though, since as much as I like it it does feel a little out of place in the rest of the narrative.
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>>541188657
It needs a little more fleshing out. Like all the stuff with the cloning and the different factions. Just gets mentioned then never developed really.
It's a good foundation for a whole game. A guardsman captured and finding himself fighting in the arena, then escapes and tries to make his way out of the dark city, encountering strange enemies and stranger allies.
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>>541188421
It's also because elves are so uncooperative. Men have a desire to tame difficult women.
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>>541188657
I've always appreciated Cumrag and Alushinyrra for that. Owlcat games are so fucking long that I welcome having a side adventure where your power is stripped from you for a little bit and you don't have to worry about crusade management or whatever.
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Larry in DH will be a chud elf who blames the decline of his race on eldar females only wanting to mate with human men, unproductively.
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What will the Commoragh of DH be?
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>>541183124
Lawful Good is the most Lawful Evil alignment.
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>>541188657
>>541188852
I disliked the frequent shitty cutscene hallucinations they kept forcing on you. Cumrag is shit on the first run when you have no clue when/if you will get your companions back or where to go. On subsequent runs its more bearable but still.
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>>541189554
Prison forced labour planet after you get betrayed by another inquisitor
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>>541190379
The hallucinations were a terrible idea poorly executed. Simply having traumas would have been sufficient
>>541189554
Cast down to the underhive, among the squalor and darkness, but where you will find a miraculous archeotech elevator that will lift you back to the upper levels.
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>>541183124
Owlcat also over-humanized monsters in Kingmaker. Like you're supposed to befriend all these stupid goblins, kobolds, mites, lizardfolk and even sympathize with fucking trolls, as though having them around in civilized human cities wouldn't result in them wantonly murdering and eating others.

To their credit though they do depict some of that fallout here and there, but the default stance of the game seems otherwise, like the negative effect is somehow a subversion as opposed to being an obvious expectation.
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>>541191075
Oh cool so she'll finally sleep with you
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>>541191075
Owlcat integrated Yrliet romance mod confirmed.
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>>541191210
R*szard consulting
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>>541191075
Will this stop people from sperging out about her being bipolar because all her flags were fucked?No
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>>541191747
She'll still be bipolar, but correctly so
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>>541191075
Their solution is to cut the character entirely.
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>>541191747
Unless the changed her ending or romance people will still say she sucks lol.
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>>541191747
She's bipolar, but at least now I won't get accused of not trying to save her kin when I explicitly did so 3 times
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>>541191885
Nobody here actually finishes games
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>>541191932
>You didn't try hard enough, Elantach
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Men are fundamentally too selfish and primitive to understand love that isn't all about sex (Yrliet)
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>>541192268
I'd find it easier to tolerate if you didn't immediately leave to become a pirate and bounce on drukhari dick, yrliet
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>gets RT and crew kidnapped and sent to Cumrag
>her first instinct is to start torturing random unfortunates in the hobo sector
Yriletfags care to explain?
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>>541192529
All eldars have those inclinations. She was confused without elantach to guide her and correct her. As soon as you found her she was a happy girl and immediately knew what to do.
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>>541192529
Peer pressure from Drukhari
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>>541192529
Now this is advanced speed reading
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>>541192529
Fell in with the wrong crowd. Imagine if Arue had been left for long to her own devices in Alushinarya. She would have been getting meatballed by day's end.
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>>541192529
She claims they forced her. I believe her, she seems pretty stressed out
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Yrliet slashed the tires on my fucking car
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>>541192529
She has BPD, remember? You can't leave her alone with another man, let alone several. You know what's going to happen. Also you getting captured gave her the ick a bit.
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>>541193623
She was only doing that because she was hanging out with hoodlums and they peer pressured her.
They also gave her coke
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Yrliet was taking my order at Mcdonalds
I asked for extra McChicken sauce but I got NO McChicken sauce
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>Noo you don't understand, I tortured all those innocent people but I'm actually a victim in all this
>I definitely wouldn't have kept torturing and become a wych if I didn't see a chance to pull one over on the elantach again
>Did I even bother looking for you? Don't be silly I needed to hang out with my new drukhari crew
This character is unsalvageable. Worse still if you had been the one to get her sent to Commoragh she would never have forgiven you and probably sworn revenge. Hell the Drukhari who sent her there gets treated better than the RT.
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>>541194096
If you leave her behind she actually becomes a wych and deliberately breaks her spirit stone to prove she doesn't need it anymore
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>>541194096
How could she look for you, there were like three guys escorting her, she was a prisoner
Might as well ask why Argenta didn't take the elevator one flight up and look for you
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The deldar waifu in DH will be Wych Yrliet
You'll get to redeem her like Abloobloo
Still won't let you hit however
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>>541194096
The usual yrlietposting here is so hysterical I can't even tell if this is shitposting anymore.
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>>541186484
Yrliet
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What's worse is that she instantly turns against her new Drukhari friends when she sees an opportunity, typical behavior of BPD cases
With friends like Yrliet, who needs enemies
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>>541189231
Ah yes, Kyganil and Ephrael Stern on their merry way to being completely ignored and forgotten.
Why is elf male x human female ok but not the other way?
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>>541186484
Act 5
It's tidy and fun
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I want a Custodes CRPG
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>>541194854
>Why is elf male x human female ok but not the other way?
Meds nao
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>>541194976
Female custodes included?
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Very poorfag here, I was gifted an old laptop not too long ago and I'm looking for some recs that work on something with very low specs.
4GB ram, intel 5500 video card and no ssd low.
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>>541192460
Im almost scared to ask but what tf are you talking about? I though Pasqal just killed her. She joins the Drukhari anyway?
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The Lost Chapel is such a chore in WotR. Some huge area, everything does energy drain shit, there aren't enough spell slots or scrolls or restoration potions to deal with the constant neg energy drains.

Intersperse with mindless gargoyle trash fights and secret sudden minibosses around the outskirts. I didn't even mind not having a full party for the whole thing, it just doesn't feel rewarding to churn through the whole zone.
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>>541194984
Ok name one 40k elf female human male pair that isn't just memes.
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>>541195142
Fallout 1 & 2
BG 1 & 2
Planescape
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>>541195142
I once ran Rogue Trader on a laptop way below minimum specs with no real gpu similar to what you're describing and it actually managed. It had very long loadscreens though.
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>>541195109
Sure but they die offscreen and never actually show up
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>>541195143
In her Warrior ending, Pasqal kills her if he's gone with his Renegade ending, otherwise she lives
In her Corsair ending, she becomes a pirate queen and is seen operating with Marazhai if he's alive and is a corsair. They "bond" over the "shared experiences with the rogue trader"
The "immediately leaves you" thing is due to a bug where you sometimes never get her romance end cards, even if you've completed it, so she gets the above endings after only a few decades with you, instead of waiting till after your death
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>>541194192
That is what I was referencing.
>>541194295
>she was a prisoner
>three guys one of whom she instantly can kill whilst the other two run away
I'm sure she had no opportunity to escape or even try looking for any of the crew she damned to endless torture. Not even posing whilst in the crew searching for someone specific to torture. Face it Yrilet never stops trying to use you throughout the game. She first lies to you to hide her kin's involvement on Janus, uses you to either kill them or pacify them when it becomes clear they won't obey her, then uses you again to kill Vyatt. She uses you to search for her kin all other the expanse then uses you as a pawn to get information for Marazhai. She uses the Drukhari to start becoming a Wych then you to rescue her when she realises that you're retarded enough to give her a chance. She's literally just a non-fuckable Wenduag now that I think about.
>Argenta
Who?
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>>541194854
>Why is elf male x human female ok but not the other way?
The schizo was unironically right about the double standard, what he was wrong about was the bbc/anti-white shit. A few GW writers just dislike Tolkien's and the romances in random pop fantasy of the 80s of humans getting hot elf chicks so they subvert it
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>>541195143
If you tell her positive things she becomes a warrior and gets blasted by Pasqal in some circumstances.
If you tell her nihilistic things she becomes a corsair, not a Drukhari
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>>541195842
>The schizo
who is totally not you samefagging huh?
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>>541195785
>uses you as a pawn to get information for Marazhai
More schizo headcanon
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>>541195941
No it's not anon, not everyone who disagrees with you or points out someone you dislike had a point is samefaging.
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Leiliana is just Imoen btw
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>>541195785
>three guys one of whom she instantly can kill whilst the other two run away
Only after being inspired by your magnificent presence
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>>541195461
I already tried kingmaker and the load times made it unbearable.
20 minutes anytime you move to a new map and they steadily get worse as you play.
I ended up giving up once it took half an hour to return to the map.
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>>541196036
If you point to a blue sky and claim it's red and it's a conspiracy to trick people into thinking it's blue, you're not just disagreeing with me or pointing out something I dislike, you're just being a schizo
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There's exactly one schizo and one yrlietfag in this general. They both use VPNs and other trickery to inflate their posting rate
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>>541195972
Shit I made a typo, it's meant to be get info "from Marzahai". That's my bad.
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All of you are me btw
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>>541196179
What are you talking about? I said he was right for noticing the pattern but was wrong about bbc shit and pointed out what the real reason for the double standard is
>what he was wrong about was the bbc/anti-white shit. A few GW writers just dislike Tolkien's and the romances in random pop fantasy of the 80s of humans getting hot elf chicks so they subvert it
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>>541184336
Figured I'll go with The Original Saga on GOG with fixes from Patches-Scrolls (might be preinstalled) and sorcerers.net. This should suffice according to PCGamingWiki.
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At least half the posters here are Yrliet trying to manipulate me
It won't work, you hear me??
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>What are you talking about?
The fallacy that you're being called a schizo for pointing out an inconvenient truth and not because you're schizoing out of your goddamn mind
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>>541196423
It's not even a conspiracy btw, ask on /tg/ about GW writers and their schtick of trope subversion - it's what caused them to rewrite some shit in fantasy to be more "grimdark" too. For instance see old vs new Bretonnia (didn't read old world lore talking about WHFB)
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>>541195785
Nah when you go inside her soul later while she's unaware you can see none of that is the case
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>It's not even a conspiracy btw, ask on /x/ about all these instances of people filming a red sky and being conveniently silenced by the government while the drones just accept the sky is indeed blue
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I can't wait for the cudcel meltdowns when in Dark Heresy Larry ploughs through the femquisitor's pussy with no problem or even bringing up meditation shit in his romance. And then when Owlcat adds another female Eldar companion to either RT DLC or DH base game/DLC and she doesn't put out.
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I was denied knife ear sex
Billions must schizo
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>>541197354
Larry will casually mention meditating with female eldar, and explain that it's not a big deal, it didn't mean much to either of them
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>>541195684
>In her Corsair ending, she becomes a pirate queen and is seen operating with Marazhai if he's alive and is a corsair. They "bond" over the "shared experiences with the rogue trader"
It's over for Yriletcels. Even after all the bullshit they put themselves through you will never be anything more than a monkeigh.
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>>541197354
>Eldar companion to either RT DLC
They'll add a male Eldar companion and a new mechanic - romances between companions
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You wouldn't date a chimpanzee but you expect a superior eldar to date a monkeigh, why?
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>>541197604
Marazhai and Kibber have a very special relationship too in some ending scenarios
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>>541197904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59uPCvsAHBE
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>>541197904
>You wouldn't date a chimpanzee
Speak for yourself
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Serious question for the 40kfags, were you hyped for Yrliet's romance when you heard she was gonna be romancable. Were you excited to see how an Eldar wiafu romance would turn out, but then got disappointed or were you expecting it to be weird.
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>>541198801
it was about what I expected
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>>541197904
poor comparison because yrliet makes you break it off with the other interests
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>>541198801
I was expecting it to be somewhat weird but I was still disappointed. No sex was an issue, but no sex + betrayal + shitty personality (not tsundere just shitty) + broken flags + her being retarded was just too much
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>>541198801
>were you hyped for Yrliet's romance
It was Owlcat so my expectations were low, they were even lower when they gave that trailer where she had a question mark over romanceable. Owlcat really blew my expectations out of the water with how bad it really was though.
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>>541198801
Pretty much, but I expected at least holding hands at the end like as the climax
Or even
>Devious xenos
>Foolish mon'keigh *fade to black*
It's also lacking in content. I don't mind if it's just talking but you don't talk much except at the start
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>>541198801
this but also argenta not being an option at all
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I ended up dating Yrliet without meaning to
I don't usually bother with romance in games so I shut them all down
I thought I was just being kind to Yrliet but apparently she thought we were dating
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Is it possible to go back to a world where gamers are not obsessed about romance? or are we doomed to talk about waifus and subversion conspiracies and elves and sex and romance until we die
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>>541199116
Especially with how chatty Argenta is at first
>May we pray together in the warrant chamber?
Then nothing
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>>541199210
>Autist mistakes social kindness for romance cues

It is just like my anon
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owlcat characters don't have enough reactivity imo
they have a few quips but mainly they do nothing in the last two thirds of the game outside of romance and if they aren't romancable they cease to be a person
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Argenta is non-romancable because she doesn't have a pet name for you. No elantach nor shereen nor domin.
So there was no way to record romance dialogue
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Kingmaker is objectively such a mediocre game, how the fuck did it put Owlcat on the map
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I like Planescape because Planescape is good
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>541199454
Cassiabros..... our fish wife doesn't really love us...
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>>541199839
She just calls you by your job title. Not very special
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Just bought jagged alliance 3
Gonna install it
Play some roles
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>>541190367
this is surprisingly accurate
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>>541198801
Honestly, yeah. Eldar x Human was a pretty popular meme in the fanbase, even from a while back, especially with Love can Bloom. Surprised they made Yrliet so unlikable and the companion path so humiliating. Expected at least a kiss at the end of the romance, but not even that. Before knowing anything I assumed she was gonna be a mysterious cool tsundere Eldar that eventually warms up to you in a slowburn romance with a payoff at the end. Which it seemed to be the case at first, but then she just got pretty stupid and odd. I'm surprised Owlcat did this considering how popular a well done romance with a fem Eldar would be in the community, I get the writer was trying a unique romance , but it and Yrliet's overall character just came off as badly written. It had a sweet moment at the end, but it's a small sinking diamond in a sea of autism.
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Dogmachuds...
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What role should I play today?
I wonder...
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If Marazhai was female and Yrliet was male, would Marazhai still be romancable and would Yrliet fuck the femcel trader?
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Questions on Rogue Trader

1. Is it true 99.99% of the game isn’t voiced? What actually is voiced then?

2. Apparently there’s more story dlc coming and it’s better to wait another year for a complete edition bundle?
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You are using that one Minthara mod, right?
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/18685?tab=description
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>>541198801
I expected GW to cockblock Owlcat, so I didn't think I'd get my Rogue peepee wet. I thought it would have been cooler if she had simply stayed a traitor and then IF you were to save her once she realises that actually, Drukhari are kinda bad, she'd warm up and enjoy a romantic though asexual relationship. Like I pet my dog and occasionally smoosh his dumb face then push him off when he tries to hump my leg. Something like that.
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>>541201980
>1. Is it true 99.99% of the game isn’t voiced? What actually is voiced then?
Not true. At this point I'd say around 40-50% of dialogue is voiced, because Owlcat keeps adding new voicelines with every new patch.
>2. Apparently there’s more story dlc coming and it’s better to wait another year for a complete edition bundle?
Just play it now. It's going to be a LONG time until they finish all those season pass DLCs.
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>>541202068
No, I'm not, because if I'm going for Minthara I'm going for the evil powercouple feeling, meaning the tieflings are goners
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>>541200175
Have fun. I've been playing off and on for months. Let me know if you have any questions
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>>541202235
...why?
I am not moralfagging, I am just saying that the evil playthough is so fucking lacking in content it feels like an afterthought.
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>>541200996
I feel like Owlcat didn't make Rogue Trader with solo runs in mind.
I don't think I got any reactivity at all in my run. Also there are several encounters that really fucking lay the pain on solo characters.
>the gangsters in the lower ship stairway have extreme damage reduction that can only be overcome with lots of attacks which is nearly impossible when you have 1 person instead of 5
>Daeomettes will charm you with no saving throw which effectively softlocks the game
>the Astropath ghosts will stack an array of crippling single target debuffs onto you
>the final boss interrupts combat to put you in stasis and eventually kill you once he drops below 7k hp meaning you literally can't beat the game unless you do 7k+ damage in a single hit
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>>541201834
Male Yrliet would fuck Femazhai. Marzi personality plus tits, and even your asexual Asuryani would want to punish her with his cock.
He might take turns with your Rogue Trader though.
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Threadly reminder he was right about literally everything.
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Do we know anything new about the Dark Heresy companions? I've been living under the radar for a while.
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>>541199325
>Is it possible to go back to a world where gamers are not obsessed about romance?
I doubt it honestly. I think it's a symptom of unhealthy aspects in society that I don't see getting fixed anytime soon. I just don't see how people can't be embarrassed for themselves about this kind of fixation, but then again millions of people watch other people play video games every day among other retarded zoomer shit so what do I know
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>>541201980
1. Not 99%, but the majority is unvoiced, prologue, bridge dialogue with companions, some important parts in main quest and companion missions are voiced, Owlcat added more with patches.
2. Yes, but that is next year. The third DLC is about Trazyn's collection and the fourth about the haunted ship graveyrard, both DLCs will add companions, who will most likely be xenos and some new mechanics, DLC 3 is adding implants, don't know the details yet.
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>>541202591
They're all ugly and unfuckable
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>>541202791
Awesome.
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>>541202661
>>541202212
How do DLC companions work?

Are they recruited in the dlc locations only or are some of them like Mass effect where you can get them early on just by doing their dossiers?
If it’s the former, are these new locations generally end game or somewhere you can visit early?
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>>541202335
Why would a good guy ever start dating her?
At most, I would save her.
>why?
Durge is fun enough
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>>541202591
Yes go the DH website. Waifufags are losing their minds because no goonbait has been shown yet.
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>>541203030
As for current ones Kibellah the assassin is recruitable in act 1, an event will pop up as you do things in the system. As for Solomorne you will get a message from him in early Act 2 to do his recruitment quest (but you will meet him in act 1)
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>>541202335
>piss off / kill everyone
>oh no where the content at!?

Face it, the only way this gets fixed is through AI generated slop in the future OR someone gives a studio RockStar’s budget
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How da fak do you get Trevor from the arena? I got a perception check to find out who he was, a quest pops up, but then when I go ask the arena manager all I get is
>erm. no.
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Larry will be the Jimmy of Dark Heresy in terms of content volume and quality.
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Why is owlcat making like three games including an attempt at actual AAA, and all at once
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>>541203691
You have to wait until you win enough fights. Then you can schedule a Sosiel vs Trevor fight. Then you have to have Sosiel have his shield equipped in one of his weapon slots and make sure you painted Trevor as a victim in all the dialogue about him or else Sosiel will kill him
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>>541204050
GREED
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>>541204050
Passion
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>>541200996
We don't even have 6 dogmatic characters for full team yet. And ogryn is borderline dogmatic, so is catachan.
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>>541203987
Im fine with that
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>>541202635
Nobody cares about romance in tetris.
But this is the crpg general. Almost all crpgs have romance. It's part of the genre. You're just being autistic about it. Why aren't you embarrassed about this anti-romance fixation?
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Though the question is will Dark Heresy be better or worse than Rogue Trader and if so at what aspects will it lack? WOTR was an improvement over Kangmaker in most regards, some people say the writing and companions were worse. A similar thing is being said about Dark Heresy companions based on appearances alone.
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>>541188421
Everyone wants to fuck and elf. Male elves are basically kpop frontmen too.
One can wonder why they get intelligence bonuses and not charisma.
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>>541204874
>worse waifus
>better gameplay
There.
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>>541204156
>You have to wait until you win enough fights. Then you can schedule a Sosiel vs Trevor fight
What does that mean? I killed Gelderfang.
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Romancefags don't even like romance. They get triggered by a romance having any kind of actual arc or drama.
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>>541204874
It won't have space combat, I liked space combat.
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When will Larian switch over to Unreal Engine?
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>>541204854
>Nobody cares about romance in tetris.
I care. I'll never forgive Tetris Games for denying me a romance with S-piece.
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>>541204050
There is no third game, it's a lie
>including an attempt at actual AAA
Oh this is easily explained. They are retarded. Unless it becomes popular in that case I always knew it because it was obvious.
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>>541204874
>companions based on appearances alone
Because they can't be patient. Its driving me nuts. I guess they have nothing else to complain about
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>>541205516
Maybe they are making another game with reused assets, maybe another 40k project in super early development
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>>541199729
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I just hope they give Yrliet at least a hug and kiss scene before EOS
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So, the unrevealed companions for DH are almost certainly:
>Ganger
>Crazy fanatic
>Tech-priest
Is that right
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>>541207173
We have a confirmed admech from article and a psyker from gamescom so 3 mystery ones sans those, there is a chance there is 1 more xeno
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>>541207393
There are already 2 xenos, so it would feel redundant to add a new one. Also, where did the the info for the psyker came from?
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>>541200996
I know Im right that most of the fanbase aren't 40chuds but owlcat fans. RT was a test to see if people were open to aliens.
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>>541208024
People posted screenshots of him while german gamescom was on
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>>541207173
Based on what?
How about you open up a dark heresy book and read the origins.
Why wouldn't we have some death world drifter? Or Navy pilot? Or exorcised daemon host?
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>>541208178
Hes a Asian dude and looks dumb. Hoping he's a temporary companion or something
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>>541208546
He would be in line with what we've seen of Dark Heresy companions so far; a complete disappointment and utter downgrade from Rogue Trader.
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>>541208180
>How about you open up a dark heresy book and read the origins.
I have, hence why I am sticking to the more vanilla choices.
>death world drifter
>Navy pilot
>exorcised daemon host
1st steps in Haymar's shoes, 2nd probably wouldn't translate well into the game, 3rd could be.
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>Owlcat can't make good rpgs,
>But just like Parajews they're the only ones on the market currently
>forced to play their sub-par russian shit with poor writing, awful romances and bare bones mechanics
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>>541208654
>forced to play
yeah Owlkek makes you play them with a gun to your head
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>>541208932
your right I should just play Baulders Gate 2 for the 1,194,835,029th time
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>>541197360
>EA's yearly sports game re-release isn't profitable
What did he mean by this?
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>>541207173
We need Jokaero companion or npc.
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>>541209320
Swen is a knower.
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>>541209435
This
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>>541209243
Yes. You should. What class will you be going this time?
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>>541199418
I was thinking something similar recently during my WotR playthrough.
I remember in past games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect going into the camp/ship and talking to my npc companions to get commentary on the adventure as it went.

I get that impulse still, after some adventure I go to the camp to talk to Camellia or Regill or anyone and its just the same exhausted dialogue responses that have been there, or its just a single generic textbox quip over the npc heads or something.
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>>541207173
There will be a qtπ daemonhost gf. Don't tell Owlcat I told you.
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>>541209671
Bioware to this day are unmatched when it comes to party companions, on multiple levels. It's pathetic that modern day RPG developers have yet to match that level, let alone surpass it after all this time. Same for romance content, there is not a single RPG romance that has ever been as satisfying as any of the BG2 or ME romances.
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>>541209671
Owlcat games suck at that. Its really shitty how they don't comment on anything.
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>>541209886
They actually understood there needs to be banter between companions and dialogue during and after a mission. I think its one of the reasons I was actually sad when Thane and Legion died whilst I rolled my eyes at Lann's sacrifice. Owlcat frontload all their dialogue at the beginning and it ruins any sense of companionship.
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>>541205119
Do you have Sosiel in your party?
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>>541209671
Owlcat does reactivity in dialogue depending on what companions are present.
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> What if we were to return to Baldur's Gate together. What would people say, do you think?

Saravok best companion, idgaf it's been 300 years since the game came out Larian should gotten the original voice actor.
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>>541209896
They don't even comment on being back on the ship after you escape Commoragh. It's pitiful how little they respond to what's going on in the main narrative, you just exhaust their dialogue tree, do their quests (half of which are straight up unfinished or bare bones trash) and that's it. Very poor form from Owlcat, to say the least.
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>>541202561
all of his games flopped for 15 years straight
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>>541211093
But they demand Yrilet gets punished if you decided not to kill her in Commoragh? Don't be greedy and expect your companions to bring up how you wiped out a Kabal leader or a greater daemon.
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>>541211089
>Sarevok best companion
False, statistical data and objective measurement shows the best BG companion to be Imoen.
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>>541211093
Some do Abelard did, Cas did, Yrlitard did
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>>541211093
>They don't even comment on being back on the ship after you escape Commoragh.
Pretty sure they do. If anything, I can count on Owlcat to have a bunch of dialogue when moving from one act to another.
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The other big failure of Owlcat is the poor quality of inter party banter. Why is it other RPG companies cannot produce fun and enjoyable things like Javik ripping apart Liaras entire world view and perspective on her people during Thessia? Was Bioware really the best we're ever going to get when it comes to dialogue and interaction between party members in an RPG? Grim, perhaps even grave, if so.
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I hope the new Sororitas with the portrait in Dark Heresy is a questgiver. I hope she has unique interactions with a Sororitas player character, and that each background has a unique questline. Perhaps an origin questline like in dragon age or cyberpunk, but also perhaps an ongoing one that comes up throughout the game, like Durge in bg3. An ongoing background side questline is a great way to enhance replayability for the game and add reactivity at the same time. Much like the mythic system in wotr. I want characters to react to the fact that you're a commissar or ganger or sororitas or psyker or whatever. There is some of this in RT but it's mostly minor. psyker player characters being able to subdue the pit and crime lord being able to produce your own psyker for the ceremony are a couple examples of actual mechanical reactivity, I want like 500 times more of that sort of stuff. They said the game is going to be overall shorter so that they can focus on more reactivity, and I really hope that's true. I loved RT, and if DH is simply RT with slightly tighter gameplay balance and a little bit more reactivity to class, background, companions, alignment, and story choices then it's going to be one of my all time favorite games.

I also hope there are more instances of characters who can be allies or enemies depending on your choices. Being able to recruit someone that you had to kill in your previous playthrough is the ultimate replayability for crpg. But it can be in story, not just companions. Factions that change depending and alliances etc.

I'm really excited for this game.
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>>541211692
The companion quality is shit for Owlcat games. Not a single one comes close to Javik and that fucker showed up in the worst game of the trilogy and had nothing to do with the main plot.
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>>541211692
Reminds me that most of the banter in KM is stuck within the whole camping thing
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>>541211550
>Pretty sure they do
And you would be wrong.

>Argenta has nothing to say
>Abelard has a sentence or two, impressive by Owlcat standards
>Pasqal has nothing to say even with xenotech in his chest
>Heinrix has nothing to say but at least he had the scene about his Sage friend
>Jae's entire personality shift may as well have not even happened even with her request to help her friends
>Cassia has a kiss option but nothing about her powers affecting you weirdly
>Ulfar only has one new line if you already exhausted everything in Commorragh
>Idira has a line about her quest but she also had a scene where she asks for help
>Kibellah and Yrliet at least have a new thing to say about what happened

It's either nonexistent or bare bones trash, you should've been able to actually go over what happened and how they're doing now that they're out of one of the worst places in the entire galaxy. This is why I find it laughable that people are worried Owlcat switching to full VA is going to impact the quality and depth of their narratives, they do the bare minimum or less than that even though they have no VA constraints whatsoever, so nothing of value is going to be lost. If anything I wouldn't be surprised if full VA results in MORE interactions and dialogue, not less.
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>>541212010
kys mintharafag
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>>541212118
>>Heinrix has nothing to say but at least he had the scene about his Sage friend
Doesn't he say something about nerve damage and some shit?
>>Jae's entire personality shift may as well have not even happened even with her request to help her friends
I'm still counting that it happens because you can talk to her further about it but she completely disregards it and would rather continue the larp.
It's been awhile but let's not act as if the other games have massive shifts instead of having a new dialogue option before they go back to their usual standing around thing.
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>>541211692
Owlcat has good banter although not as good as classic Bioware's. Ember and Seelah have some good ones and I remember enjoying Nok-Nok and Linzi's as well.
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Regina bros...
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>>541212010
>Sororitas player character
That is not going to happen in a Dark Heresy game, you are a disposable pawn with a background to match. Of course, this is Owlcat, so you'll ascend to demigod status regardless, but even they wouldn't disregard the basic setup of Dark Heresy at its outset. A Sororitas is a highly respected and powerful character from the get go, completely not a character that fits in the Dark Heresy setting as a player character origin.

Also, they confirmed that Psyker is going to be an actual class rather than a background in Dark Heresy (which is what it should've been in RT) so yeah.
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>>541212345
Lelianas character quest in Dragon Age: Origins has more content and interaction with her, a single character, than all the interaction content in Rogue Trader put together.
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>>541212010
based. it's nice that there are several good looking games soon
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Does OwlCat suck because they are Russians or just because they're shit developers?
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>>541212406
>Owlcat has good banter
Flat out lying and spreading disinformation is pointless when many people here have actually played several CRPGs over the years.
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>>541211417
Stop fucking posting this slop.
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>>541212696
What if you're a really shit one though
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>>541212957
Russians are probably the highest tier of slavs, though, though they are admittedly still subhuman compared to actual Europeans or East Asians.
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>>541212496
you guys know shes black right
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>>541213150
Makes sense that evil women would be black
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>>541212082
The noise at the time was made around prepackaged DLC content. The idea that a part of the game was purposefully left out to be sold on the side.

It was quickly forgiven though since Javik is such a great character
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Who else even makes CRPG's right now besides Owlcat and Parajews? Because both fucking suck
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>>541213150
Holy fuck bro that's scary
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>>541211692
Just cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks, Javik.
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Is he making up new names again?
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>>541212406
The only way this is true is if you count the camping banter.
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>>541213249
>prepackaged DLC content
I am aware, the reason I use Javik as a point of comparison was that his story and arc were deleted before the game begain cause EA needed DLC. He was originally gonna be the creator of the crucible but EA stepped in and he was haphazardly removed. In spite of this and him being another generic soldier type he was still fantastic despite being thrown together last minute. I can still remember his quotes whilst I struggle to think of a single one from all of Owlcat's games.
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Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher 4 are crpgs
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>>541213132
>slav tierlist
Not polacks?
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Apparently you actually can be a Sororitas, assuming Owlcat are using Dark Heresy 2E rules. There's a character generator app you can use to see what options are available here if you guys care: https://apps.ajott.io/dh2chargen/

Very familiar options, honestly, I think RT really was supposed to be a Dark Heresy game originally.
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There are the only Sisters of Battle I know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oOVXhx6dHk
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>>541213596
If you examine crime statistics in immigrants from Eastern Europe to Western Europe the Polish are probably the worst people to have around outside of Romanians. Terrible, wretched people, most of the slavs are better than they are. I recall a British fellow who had lived around them telling me he'd rather live among Arabs than around Poles.
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>>541213436
I was counting the camping banter. There's hardly any banter in their games outside of the campsites.
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>>541213553
Him being a generic soldier is way fucking better. Finding the last living member of a precursor race but it turns out he's just some guy who can't really help you with anything is a great premise.
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>no femdar sex
>no sob sex
will owlcat go 0/3 and pass on a tau girl too
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>>541212696
Both editions of Dark Heresy TTRPG have playable Sororitas
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>>541212696
It's amazing how often people confidently lie about random shit itt.
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>>541213989
>some guy who can't really help you
He was literally going to be the head scientist of the Protheans, he was the one who designed the doomsday device to defeat the reapers and was at the forefront of their tech. From a pure narrative perspective that is better than soldier man and Liara randomly digging up the crucible from Mars. We can argue about whether that's a better concept but the point still remains, bioware whilst being rushed and out of time still managed to shit out a companion better than Owlcat has done in 3 fucking games.
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Help me out bros. Which of these is coolest?
https://files.catbox.moe/6831dp.png
>inb4 AI slop
crpg portraits are literally the best use case for this trash
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>>541212696
SoB have been in Dark Heresy since 2008 anon. inquisitor's Handbook was printed in 2008, and a SoB specific sourcebook all about them is called Blood of Martyrs and was printed in 2010. I've been playing one for years and the sourcebook for them is sitting on my bookshelf. I look forward to playing one in owlcat's videogame based on that sourcebook.

They're also in Dark Heresy 2e and Wrath&Glory, btw.
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>>541214251
Liara randomly digging up the crucible is fine. It being a project that stretches back through the cycles works well thematically. The only problem with it is space baby and the stupid choice at the end.
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>>541214434
You just want to be a sister because of your AGP mintharafag
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>>541214160
Yeah, a few threads ago someone said Jae was the most popular romance option according to Owlcat surveys.
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>>541214638
it's actually crazy how bad ME3's ending is. the game itself is passable, especially after 2 being weird as fuck. the ending to the trilogy is just so damn awful it overshadows everything else over 3 games.
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>>541213696
>greatsword and shield+gun
Does anything in 40k make sense or is it just random "cool" things stitched together
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>>541214426
I like the third one from the left (not counting your paper doll).

But they could all use some work to make them look less like Steven Seagall.
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>>541214434
So are Sisters Of Battle that weak, relatively? Isn't the whole point of Dark Heresy that you're a minor player with limited power? Therefore you are precluded from being something really powerful or strong in universe, yet you can be a SoB? I guess they're ultimately no big deal.
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>>541214712
>not a mutant
>doesn't get you thrown into an alien torture pocket dimension
>normalfags already programmed to accept whores
not really outlandish desu
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>>541214928
>or is it just random "cool" things stitched together
^
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>>541215013
She is ugly even to normies and Cassia you get first
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>>541215001
They are pretty much just regular women kitted out in gear.
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>>541214434
Imperium Maledictum also has them - player can choose Sister Novitiate as an origin
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>>541214928
>Does anything in 40K make sense
No. However, it used to not make sense and yet still be cool and aesthetically pleasing. Now, it still doesn't make sense, and looks ridiculous and stupid. Owlcat need to drop the license and the setting before GW forces them to go along with their new designs and ideas for the setting.
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>>541214967
>But they could all use some work to make them look less like Steven Seagall.
kek I know right? I'm just using https://perchance.org/ai-character-generator and I'm not really used to using tags so I don't know what to add. Was also trying to get a more sci-fi background but it only kinda worked.
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>>541215204
So why does everyone in RT make such a big deal about Argenta? They sound like they're nothing but slightly better outfitted Imperial Guard.
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>>541215162
Cassia has gills dude. Still unsurprising.
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>>541215383
She's effectively a prophet and she did find a sacred artifact. She also has god emperor guided shots to one shot high level people with a piddly gun. Other than that, she's pretty normal.
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>>541215383
Because they're insanely fanatical. That's dangerous stuff.
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>>541215408
So? I think Cassia is hideous but the majority still love her
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>>541215275
Just learn to use stable diffusion unless your gpu is a potato, you'll get better control over the whole thing.

Also use negatives either way, in the anti-description thing. Try adding in Steven Seagall there, or add in any races that don't fit your desired look (a lot of model data uses stock asian photos so skew asian if you don't correct for it, for instance).
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>>541215645
Clearly the majority prefer Jae. Frankly we all know the majority prefer Argenta but owlcat are turbo queers.
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>>541215383
Shes the only Sister in the Expanse and she's sexy :) see what the clerk on the tithe planet says about her
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>>541215814
Or just ask Jae. She'd fuck Argenta if she could.
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>>541215383
Mary Sue
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>>541215765
>Just learn to use stable diffusion unless your gpu is a potato, you'll get better control over the whole thing.
eeeeh 2080 but I don't care that much anyway. I'm pretty much okay with the quality and don't plan on flooding nexus with portrait packs. this thing did great for my pathfinder portraits but apparently the sci-fi look is harder.
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>>541215798
>majority prefer Jae
I know you are baiting but lol!!!
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Kibbles would be top of the list if she came out with the game on release. Pretty nefarious of Owlcat to keep locking waifus behind DLC.
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>>541216045
>I am helpful, am I not, Shareen?
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>>541215929
Jae wants to fuck Jimmy too and probably someone else on the party if she could
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>>541216229
Well she's got taste I guess, did she mention wanting to fuck Ulfar? I don't think so.
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>>541215001
The SoB are close allies of the Ordo Hereticus. When an Ordo Hereticus needs an army because their investigations have either failed or brought them to a major den of heresy, they will often call upon the Adeptus Sororitas, due to their shared specialty in destroying heresy. A SoB player character can be a friend doing a favor for an inquisitor contact, or a lower ranked member just following orders from her canoness who is doing a favor for an inquisitor.

SoB are influential in the setting because the are the chambers militant of the Ecclisiarchy, and the Ecchlisiarchy is the church, and the church dictates life in the Imperium. So yes, they're important in a symbolic and practical way, but their individual members are still found all over the galaxy doing various things. They're probably the third largest military force in the imperium, behind the astra militarum and the navy. So they're not rare and mythical like space marines, but they are more rare than guardsmen. They are holy warriors so an average citizen would show reverence and respect, but they're not more special than that.

>>541215383
What he said is not quite accurate. They are symbols of the Faith, and the Faith is above all in the Imperium. They are agents of the church. The church's army. So they're very much not "just women with nice kit". And them being symbolic of the church is why people respect them or show reverence towards them.

Also it's not "slightly" better kit than guard. They wear power armor and have bolters. The church spends a lot of money on their equipment. Each SoB is like a thousand guardsmen in terms of money cost. Power armor is no joke.

Not to mention training. Each SoB goes to college to learn how to fight and kill, and many of them were raised from children in the Schola Progenium where they started learning dogma and fighting and tactics as children. Whereas many guardsmen are thrown through a few weeks bootcamp (varies, some guard like Mordians are primo).
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>>541216014
Yeah there's a lot more fantasy art to draw from in general.

I usually generate or dig up an existing piece of art and then modify it using img2img and that helps get accurate results, especially when trying to force it to present something it has little data for, like a voxcaster or a chainsword or something like that.
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>>541216641
you will never be a sister or woman
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>>541216641
I am that guy and I will reiterate what I said, they generally are normal women compared to genetic monsters like Space Marines.
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>>541216442
Space marines dont have dicks so the thought never even crossed her mind
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>>541216924
I’m shitposting from my convent with my wimple on right now bitch
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Argenta isnt even apart of the military branch she is apart of the nerd branch she is just a larper.
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>>541217459
>a cloth headdress covering the head, neck, and the sides of the face, formerly worn by women and still worn by some nuns.
I see
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>>541216853
well I was going to try that img2img thing but 1, not paying for ai shit, and 2, I can't find this damn portrait anywhere online. what class is this supposed to be? commander right?
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>>541217020
That isn't true. Most SoB have been raised from childhood to be soldiers, they are some of the best trained warriors in the imperium since they have an actual college for training, they have some of the best equipment because the church is rich, and they have a propensity towards manifesting miracles on the battlefield at higher rates than other groups of soldiers because their life revolves around faith. There are actually a list of reasons why they're not normal, and leagues above normal humans like guardsmen, and saying "well they're more normal relative to space marines" is a silly thing to say because space marines are extensively augmented and cost billions of dollars to make.

I can tell you the lore about the several ways that SoB are meaningfully superior to average soldiers, from lifestyle to training to equipment to faith magical powers, but if you want to ignore that and just say they're normal people with nice armor then you're free to do that. It's a free internet.

>>541217558
She is from the Ordos Pronatus, which are the ones who collect and safeguard relics. So in that sense, yes it's the nerd branch of the SoB. But much like the marine crop, every single SoB is a trained soldier and rifleman who has passed various training and competency tests. They don't dust the relics all day, the Ordos Pronatus defend the relics by killing heretics who would steal or deface them, and they often have to reclaim them from various heretic dens across the galaxy. Just because you have a desk job doesn't mean you're not still a trained warrior, and they have all the equipment and faith powers their more militant sisters have.
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>>541217794
Crop the screenshot you just took and use it in img2img then, though yeah you'd have to install stable diffusion properly for that if you don't want to pay some service (never pay for AI, anyone with a minimum of a 1070 can do it themselves for free)
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>>541218123
Do you roleplay your ugly Karen-haired sister hooking up with other ugly sisters.
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>>541218181
honestly the few I've gotten from that stable diffusion site have been a bit too cartoony even with the few "sharp detail" tags I have on. I assume this is because I didn't add more negatives but eeeeeeeh dunno if I care to make it work.
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>>541218123
Just because there's a crpg set in that shit setting doesn't make your 40slop "lore" on topic here, there are many places you can go to discuss this boring shit
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>>541218584
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT CRPGS IN /crpgg/!!!!
What's your damage really?
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>>541219067
Thats no a crpg thats 40chud autismo lore
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Temple of elemental evil will save this general
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take it easy
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I'm going all in on solasta 2 coin.
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>>541218123
So why would you ever play anything else in Dark Heresy if they are a character option, and, apparently, significantly more powerful and connected than every other choice? Seems out of place.
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>>541216641
>>541218123
WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS why is their hair white
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>>541220090
Space mother mary unlocked ultra instinct so they dye their hair white in honor of her.
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I miss when this thread has Marasisters and Jimmycels going at each other and it wasn't just Jaefags and Yrlitards.
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>>541220350
There are no Jaefags
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>>541219857
SoB are strong character choice, but game mechanics keep things balanced. There are character skills that other classes are better at covering, and other classes have just as many or better social skills, and SoB are not good at anything secrecy related (other than charm) and DH has a notoriety system that SoB are bad at. I also played a ministorum cleric character and they were the smart class which was fun. You can also be more killy if you choose a death world combined with a combat class. Like with dnd and any other rpg, they make a wide variety of combat styles

oh, and SoB don't mix well with psyker powers, and psykers are super strong and popular.

>>541220090
Each Order will dye their hair to emulate and honor one of their patron saints. They all want to die a worthy death like the saints did, so they emulate them in style so they may emulate them in life, and then hopefully in death.

They also revere the things they wore and wielded, and they will carry their stuff into battle. Including their bones.

But since it's 40k, this has actual power, and the army that carries these relics actually shoot more accurately and bullets oddly bend away from vital organs.
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>>541220350
The yrliet hating schizos just do it all on their own all day every day man
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>>541220563
You will NEVER be a warrior nun
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Jae's romance flags are still almost as buggy as on release but owlcat hasn't done shit since no one cares about her LMFAO. She like that wyll dude from bg3.
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>>541218515
The results you're getting (assuming that screenshot is one of the 'cartoony' ones) are due to having too many parameters in general. You're making it operate passed what it has data for. Get rid of some stuff from your prompt to help bring it in.
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>>541220720
shes a discount isabela
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Ministorum priest should get a willpower based accuracy bonus.
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>>541220720
Someone really should post the romance statistics image. Jae was at the top.
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>>541218515
>>541220563
>>>/tg/
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>>541220720
>She like that wyll dude from bg3.
Trve
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I genuinely despise the Freight Line fights.
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>>541221031
is ai slop popular on /tg/ or something?
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>>541220842
I loved Isabela, but I hate Jae
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>>541220942
Owlcat has only posted statistics on which companions people take with them. And Jae was st the bottom.
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>>541221681
brown sluts done right
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>>541222753
I thought, historically, she was olive-skinned greek and deeply inbred
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>>541223045
greeks are brown
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>>541223045
>olive-skinned
thats just a way of calling someone one brown but not sand brown or indian brown.
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what does olive skin even mean. olives are green
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>>541223236
So romans were brown?
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>>541223251
light brown
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>>541223251
Its an light off-tan color. Look at italians for examples.
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>>541223045
The entire reason the Macedonian Greek lineage of Pharaohs became incestuous is they wanted to avoid interbreeding with the non Greek Egyptians they ruled over.
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>>541223769
Why would they want to avoid that?
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>>541224163
Because they considered them to be inferior.
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>>541224207
What does this have to do with Jae?
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Jae is Greek coded.
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I thought she was a pajeet?
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Jae is ugly coded, no seriously wtf is up with that portrait?
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is there a mythic power in WotR to become immune to negative energy? Is Lich the only way?
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>>541224584
Artist fucked up
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>>541224584
She's not "ugly coded" she's just ugly
Go back to twitter
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I really wish we got the chance to off this guy, best of luck in Arulco bud
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Pasqal, what am I in for?
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>jae and Iomedae have the same VA
Reminder owlcat could have given us Iomedae but as a space brown tomboy sex mommy but chose not to.
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>>541227164
lots of robots
I liked it. good soundtrack
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>>541227076
He was right that she's an opportunistic whore that just used him for her own benefit, though. The real crime Smiley committed is having such a terrible perk, which relegates him to militia training duty in almost every run. I really should edit him and other mercs who have useless perks to have something better next time I play this.
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>>541222753
Why cant this bitch be in a romanceable character in a RPG?
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About to start Pathfinder:WotR. It's going to be my second Owlcat game (and 3rd CRPG ever after NWN2) and while Rogue Trader was manageable, I have heard stories about WotR's difficulty. I won't be following any guides, including build ones, but I enjoy passing as many skill checks as possible (or rather I hate to fail them as I fear I'll be locking myself out of certain story outcomes), which is why I'm wondering: is there's a skill/stat to focus on without being completely useless in combat? In RT I went with a Voidborn operative which let me focus on INT as the main stat, while using a sniper rifle. Is there an equivalent in WotR?
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>>541213696
Why would you play as a SoB if you cant romance people
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>>541227605
She is in expedition rome
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>>541227647
Trickster mythic path gives you combat abilities based on your skills
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>>541227774
SoB won't be an origin option in Dark Heresy precisely because of that.
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What if you're just a bitch that stole a SoB's equipment
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>>541228105
Great, Seelah again.
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>>541227561
No his crime was being a complete retard who fell in love with a literal whore who was at least nice enough to save his life. His shit perk is not being able to understand what a fling is.

>wanting every companion to be optimal
I don't understand this. Do you also complain about Khalid's axe pip, instead of headcanoning it as something from his background?
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>>541227647
I've been enjoying slayer for a sneak-attack front-liner. The skills aren't too big a deal if you keep Camellia around since she'll be your lockpick/trap-spring doggie and after that its just making sure you have perception and knowledge(x) skills covered for all the explorable things.

If you manage to have spare skill points just dump them into use magic device so you can rattle off scrolls for extra buffs or whatever.
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>>541227774
they let Sisters sex people now, maybe even ayys
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>>541228278
I do not need every merc to have Shadows perk, no, but I would like it if their unique perk is actually a benefit and not something that is flat out a trap option that should never be used. And Smiley was justified, he risked his life for that whore and she repaid him by abandoning him and opening her legs to another guy the moment she saw it as a better option. Smileys whole mistake was being a romantic, well, that and believing Biff actually knows what he's doing.
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>>541227647
>I have heard stories about WotR's difficulty
You mean that you're able to completely customize it, even mid-battle?
What you've "heard" is retards with pissy panties having a tantrum because they're used to games coddling them with "NOT FOR BABIES EXTREME" type difficulties.

Core will probably be too difficult, you should play on Normal.
As expected a lot of skill checks rely on Cha/Persuasion, but there are others. But the person best-suited in your party is able to make the check, 99% of the time. So just make sure you have a well-rounded party where you have one expert for every skill.
Some skills are more widely applicable, for instance Lore/Nature affects how soon you get fatigued while traveling. Use Magic Device is pretty useless, as it sucks to fail the DC in combat and just lose the round. There are very few non-combat checks with it, but there are a couple.

I would say to not bother trying to minmax. On Normal and with a party that has a good distribution of skills, you'll pass most skill checks and as a completely new player you'll probably still find aspects of combat challenging while you learn the system.
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>>541227164
>The Necron leader is a woman
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>>541228734
>If you manage to have spare skill points just dump them into use magic device so you can rattle off scrolls for extra buffs or whatever.
I would disagree, the scrolls are pretty pointless except in the early game. I'd put the extra points into Perception. Even high perception can fail a check and missing stuff can really suck, so it's great to boost on anyone so you get more attempts at least.
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>>541229178
wheres the boobs and eyelashes
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Anyone else feel like warrior is kind of shit in RT? You get one attack per turn beside charging meanwhile bladedancer can run around the map and your average solider can dump either 24 rounds with the ripper or two shotgun rounds to clear packs.
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>>541229847
All the classes other than psyker are shit in RT.
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>>541229178
woah, new 'jak
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>>541229847
no because they added psych swords and it feeds into arch militant. used a sword that increased crit dmg by 25% for every hit dualed with refund of charge on kill
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>>541229847
sir this is a pathfinder thread
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>>541230340
>psych swords and it feeds into arch militant
You mean force swords? How does that work? I thought arch-militant means you have to use different weapon skills or weapon types to build stacks of versatility.
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>>541230389
Owlcat will never touch Pathfinder again, which is great, since it's the worst TT fantasy setting in existence.
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>>541228809
>they let Sisters sex people now
sauce?
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Owlcat should have went with trench crusade over warhammer, that setting was made for them.
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i am having some kind of strange issue with fallout 2
the game runs fine but it has some kind of rendering issue
the colours are messed up
it's the GOG version of fallout 2 btw
any idea why this is happening?
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>>541230775
There is no source, since that is a flat out lie. The only material you can find with SoB in any kind of sexual relationship is 15+ years old, similar to Elder-Human stuff, and has since been scrubbed out and flat out retconned by GW, with no new material even hinting at it since.
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>>541230834
Isn't that the setting where the authors are like "well actually the guys fighting against the literal genocidal demons from hell are really no better than what they're fighting"? Hard pass.
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>>541228734
>>541229037

Thanks for the replies. I was thinking about playing on Core since RT was borderline Trivial on a similar difficulty, however RT was far easier to build. I guess I'll pick a class that focuses on Cha/Per, though I will almost certainly fail if the optimal stuff requires me to level up cross-class at various points (something I never understood how to do properly in NWN2)
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>>541215383
SoB can get themselves in such a religious fervor that they start to gain honest to god superpowers.
Bullets curve away from them, they always strike true, they see visions of the faith. They've got magic bullshit as well as the top of the line gear in the Imperium, just underneath that of Space Marines. In the Tabletop game, the Sisters can just cheat dicerolls entirely through 'miracles' - they can make a hit that would have completely missed strike true and wound through the power of faith.

There's one Sister of Battle who became so overwhelmingly obsessed with her religion she became more or less a Daemon Prince of the Emperor, complete with her dying and then just coming back every so often.
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>>541215765
I'm AMD, I don't think Stablediffusion works
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>>541220090
The organization that birthed the SoB was a harem for a fat ugly bastard ruler of the Imperium
One of those women got tired of his shit and went to see the Emperor himself. He has such psychic presence that anyone who gets too close to him will just explode. She managed to survive and had an audience with the Emperor.

When she emerged from the Golden Throne, her hair was dyed white from stress, she executed the ugly bastard and began turning the Sisters into the militant organization it is today. SoB often dye their hair as a nod to this.
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>>541231648
There might be a workaround but yeah it'd end up running slow if at all
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>>541230775
they will let the Sisters have sex if you can play as one
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>>541231843
>SoB harem for a fat ugly bastard ruler of the Imperium
Anons want to return to this
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>>541231250
>I will almost certainly fail if the optimal stuff requires me to level up cross-class at various points
You don't have to do this shit on Core and certainly not on Normal. This is meming and/or munchkin garbage.
RT is insanely, ridiculously easier than WotR. I suggest playing on Normal, but again don't fret because you can always adjust things. The PF games scale difficulty different than other games like Pillars for instance, where "PATH OF THE DAAAAAMNED" should actually just be called "The intended difficulty to play at if you're not a drooling turnip". I would say roughly that WotR Core is Pillars PotD. Another comparison I'd make is BG3 Tactician is WotR Normal.
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>>541231250
Consider Bard or Skald, you get no companions with either of those classes.
Also don't be lured into multiclassing, especially on your first playthrough. It's not the multiplicative advantage that it might seem at first, and there are lots of pitfalls (like caster level, pet level, losing your capstone, etc). A level 10 X / 10 Y won't necessarily be stronger than a 20 X or 20 Y, and often will be considerably weaker if you aren't sure what you're doing.
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>>541233189
Do not listen to this guy. There is genuinely zero reason not to take certain dips, they massively increase your power for virtually no real cost.
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>>541233334
>There is genuinely zero reason not to take certain dips
Soulless for one, and absolutely no need on Normal or Core. It's munchkin shit.
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>>541233474
My Two Handed fighter worked as a Thug for a little while to make ends meet. I can make dips work. Definitely not for Monk though.
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there any other good crpgs around not by owlcat? Tried pillars but it was real time so none of that shit
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>>541175935
Imoen loves Charname
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>>541233474
>buzzword
>no need
It's free power and there's no reason not to do it, it's not like it's some super complicated secret knowledge to take obvious dips, it's 2+2=4 shit in the vast majority of cases.
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>>541233627
Sure but either Two Handed Fighter or Thug would also be effective. People get the impression that combining classes somehow multiplies the power, and that isn't necessarily true, and on Normal/Core wouldn't be necessary anyhow.

Just recently we had a new player in who wanted to do 5 levels of some animal companion class and then switch to something else.
Or I could easily imagine a new player thinking "Wow cool I'll take 10 levels of ranger and 10 levels of wizard!" or something, not realizing that they will be half shitty wizard and half shitty ranger.
That's why I say it's a pitfall for new players. Of course it can be powerful, but again, it's just munchkin shit that isn't even necessary on Normal or Core, and also makes it a worse RP experience to just jam together classes for mechanics reasons.
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Patch notes for 1.5 when?
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>>541233804
modern ones? no. classics? the op list is good.
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>>541234679
Shame dont have the proper nostalgia to play those ones again guess owlcats monopoly it is
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>Thread Question
BG2 is a great game, an old favorite. I still enjoy 2e's ruleset, but its not for everyone.

What's actually good about BG2 is the game design philosophy that built it and other early Bioware and Black Isle titles. This is a game design approach to tone, aesthetics, narrative, pacing that I wish were still present in the games industry, because I can't just play BG2 and the other classics over and over forever, I'd like to play new games made with the same approach and design philosophies, and without any baggage carried in from social media.
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>>541234817
I guess there's DOS2 if you're really fiending.
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>>541233930
Stop wanting to fuck your sister.
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The interparty banter in BG3 was pretty disappointing desu. No snark, no antagonism between the characters. Halsin should have been pushing back on Shadowheart's Shar beliefs considering this is the same guy that has been battling Shar's warriors a century prior and FAILED to undo the curse that her goddess placed on the land. There should be more companions calling out Gale's egoism and Wyll's hypocrisy, or being wary of the fact that Laezel is a gith, as it is common knowledge that githyankis are marauding space warriors that kill anyone on sight. But instead we get flirty dialogues and everyone wants to bang each other. Fucking cringe and immersion ruining
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>>541235317
uh sorry sweaty that all sounds a bit problematic
everyone needs to feel good
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>>541175935
>Thoughts on Baldur's Gate 2?
I think the whole game is "BG1&2". And while I love BG2, I don't see it as so remarkably better than 1 to justify skipping half the story.
If you enjoy BG2 you will most likely enjoy BG1, and vice versa, so I've never really understood the particular fixation on BG2 while tossing aside BG1.
Also one of the very few games I can think of where it's very satisfying to import your character and continue the story.

My other thought on BG2 are that the Stronghold quests are pretty lame and don't even really deserve to be called Strongholds imo. Fighter and Mage are the best of them though.
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Hot take
Colony ship>age of decadence
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>>541234090
>Worse RP experience
How? You can easily come up with any number of reasons for a dip to happen. Characters shouldn't be defined by their class anyways, their class should be an extension of their character, not the other way around.
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>oh hey guys yeah I just trained as a monk pretty cool huh?
>now I can avoid damage with the power of my personality
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>>541235317
Yeah I agree there. When was the last time we had companions in a CRPG that actually butted heads and fought with each other? Dragon Age 2? Fenris talking to Anders or Merill is still top notch antagonism.
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>>541235317
The other companions should muntany against you if their approval gets low enough and just kill you for the artifact.
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>>541235317
Its not as bad as Veiguard's That was worse with everyone being cushy besties.
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>>541237137
Pillars characters would argue with eachother or be snarky assholes. It honestly seems like if the watcher wasn't there they would never even associate with eachother.
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>>541231062
where was it retconned?
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>>541237137
Deadfire, DOS2, BG3 maybe, I haven't played it. it's mostly Owlcat that doesn't really do this outside of Marazhai.
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>>541237321
Durance was the only one with any real edge to his banter, the rest of them just come off as passive aggressive faggots even when they're needling each other.
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>>541237557
BG3 banter is so soft and pussified (with occasional lewdness thrown in) it's repulsive. A party like that should've had some real back and forth between the members but it's just not there at all. The reaction to finding out Astarion is a vampire is a great example, just utterly tepid and bland stuff from every single companion. Compare that to the older CRPGs where Keldorn talks about how it's great Viconia is going to be burned to death and eventually tries to kill her if you keep her in the same party as him.
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>>541238293
Was he a backer character
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There should be mods to remove backer NPC "content" from Owlcat games and Pillars.
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>>541237815
Xoti absolutely explodes if she hears enough of Pallegina's fedora tipping nonsense and would demand for you to choose who to leave (you can still keep both). Earlier in the game's life, this was so easy to trigger that you can proc this interaction the very moment Pallegina joins the team.
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>>541238679
You can simply ignore all of it
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>>541239039
>Still considers Veilguard as "valid"
Lol
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>>541239039
Why do trannies hate White Men so much?

They are unable to go a single post without mentioning how much they hate White Men.
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>>541233334
I want the level 20 abilities.
>b-but they're weak! you'll be more powerful if you just take a level of Alchemist instead!
Don't care, they look cool.
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>>541239039
thank you for sharing your reddit post, anon
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>>541235317
Shadowheart and Lae'zel almost kill each other, and in fact do kill each other if you don't intervene. That doesn't count for something?
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>>541239414
Pretty sure barrelschizo doesn't count that.
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>>541239039
Ok this is just bait
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>>541237557
>>541237137
RT had argenta and idira constantly bickering in the first few acts and every banter yrliet has is her shitting on the other companion or being shat on
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>>541239550
tf's a barrelschizo
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>>541239414
Wyll and Karlach also attack you and will fight to the death if you side with Minthara. bg3 is one of the most lied about games here. I don't even bother correcting them because they tell the same lies a few days later every time
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>>541239703
I think anon really wants the companions to try and kill each other.
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I support SoB x SoB romance
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>>541175935
>Wherever he is, he is *seething*
Would Firkraag shitpost on 4chan?
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>>541237557
Wotr has characters constantly arguing.
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For WOTR some I can think of are: Cam hates Ember. Regill hates Arue and wants to see Woljif HANG.
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>>541239396
Good man.
What are you thinking for a MC?
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>>541240420
Regil hates Sosiel. Lann hates Woljif. Wenduag hates Cam
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>>541240701
Regill doesn't hate Sosiel, he simply holds him in contempt for being an idealistic weakling unwilling to do what needs to be done in war. There's a difference.
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>>541240179
>>541240420
>>541240701
Doesn't amount to anything though. That sort of thing is the lowest rung of Reactivity.
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>>541240701
>Lann hates Woljif
Lann the racist
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>>541240794
Okay Wendog or Lann can kill each other in their act 3 quest
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>>541240783
Regil seethes like the manlet he is any time Soseil's goody toe shoes shit actually works. It's why I bring them both along
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>>541234852
Games always leaned on the liberal end of the spectrum but it was Bill Cliton/Tonibler style liberal. Then the orange man drove them insane and over time the "quirky" people got inside the industry. Going private is a great opportunity to clean house. Now that the Saudis have EA will we get a Sunni Wahabi catechism every time we boot up their games? Probably not but it will be apolitical. Also no gay shit it wouldn't do for a Saudi game to not be able to get past Saudi censors for promoting immoranity.
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>>541240019
idira and argenta both try to kill the other at one point in a playthrough
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>>541237137
Some mercs in JA3 won't work with each other, some want to work with certain others.
There are some who grow to like or dislike certain others over time.
Buns won't work with you at all if you have Fox on your team, and MD will need a higher price if Steroid is on your team, for two examples.
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>>541241209
>Probably not but it will be apolitical
Mmmmm
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>>541241092
Fair point, there is that.
I would like subtle acts of sabotage from a companion who hates another. Or generally broadening up the possibility space instead of "nothing / leave party / fight to the death"
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>>541239039
Who cares about someone's word vomit from some other website? What is this, /v/?
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Peak Von Valancius energy
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>>541241209
You are beyond delusional. The Saudis bought EA alongside two investment companies, Silver Lake and Affinity Partners. Go ahead and look up who owns and operates those and free yourself of your foolish and pointless hopes.
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>>541239053
If you ignore it in Kingmaker then Hellknights give your kingdom a permanent debuff unless you have the divinatory foresight to realize that its backer content ahead of time. Granted, I know that now, but it'd be better if mods just stripped them out or if there were a little note ahead of whatever so I can conveniently know to ignore it.
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>>541241521
Seems about right for a feckless weakling who doesn't have the willpower and focus to finish a single thing.
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>>541241521
YOUR CRPG GOT THE SAME CHANCE SHE DID
FIFTY FIFTY
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>>541242302
o no a permanent debuff better start over
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>>541201834
Make Yrliet would impulsively kiss the RT during meditation, then would apologise for his shameful behaviour
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>>541241209
Actually I theorise that the old Interplay devs were all some flavor of libertarian. If you analyze the throughline of all the conversation choices and storylines in those early CRPGs there's a very "be an individualistic neutral party that is separate from every faction and individual you encounter" and when you do join factions you got shown their flaws along the way. Meanwhile you secure the loyalty of your personal companions in order to become your own "faction".

It might be argued that this is all a side effect of designing a "male power fantasy" but Fallout's various quests especially show there's usually something more thought out behind it all.
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>>541242450
f-fuck you...
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>>541243176
That faggot Tim Cain said he hated working with Interplay guys since they all hated faggots and made that clear to him every time they interacted.
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>>541243176
They like things like free healthcare while being pro business and are libertarian on social issues. That's what the pre Obama 2 western left was
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>>541243176
>>541244089
Take Fallout as an example: The Enclave is the "deep state", then a lefty talking point. The right wing shadow government comprised of top politicians and business executives. It's even lled by a guy named Dick Richardson who's name is a reference to Richard Nixon the pre Trump satan figure of the left. The 50s wonderbread fantasy of pre war America also had a dark side behind the facade. It's also very pro liberal democracy. The other big players are The Master, Enclave and Caesar but they are all inherently flawed because the NCR's American republican system if the best ever made. Sure it has flaws but it can be reformed if you voote for the right guy.
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>>541244887
I never got the impression they were trying to present the NCR as so good, it came across as internally corrupt though I did feel like they slightly muted a full exploration of that. The only way the NCR looks "good" is its the closest thing to a return to normal pre-apocalypse civilization, which realistically would probably look the way it does.
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Respec is a god-given human right and I will reroll my build as many times as I please while getting all the cheevos. Fuck you, Owlcat.
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>>541244887
>NCR's American republican system if the best ever made.
lol, lmao even
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>>541244089
NTA but the libertarian position on social issue is to repeal the civil rights act
Add that to free healthcare and a general love for government expansion, I doubt at any given point there was anything even resembling libertarianism in the american left
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>>541246653
It was a we like weed, free healthcare, homosexuality should be legal and we don't like war, big donors and christian fundamentalism. It was not an overly examined position and that's why the blue haired people were able to overpower it so easily.
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>>541235141
t.queer fellow
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>>541247504
Libertarian ideology supports private discrimination, this has been a thing since the ideology's inception
You are free to be gay, and I am free to build a private town where gays are not allowed to enter, likewise for blacks.
Of course you have people who just want to be gay and help the poor, those are the "liberals" the left associates with.
But the dems have been explicitly keynesian since Roosevelt, at no point they were ever even close to libertarian, neither party was really.
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Y*****t being unable to meditate after Cumrag was originally written as Argenta being unable to hear the voice of the Emperor anymore
FACT
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>>541248134
The left loves to claim the right are libertarians and lump t hem in together though. Despite the fact the last time a libertarian came close to any kind of electoral claim the RNC pushed him out the same way the DNC did with Bernie.

Still, it does seem like the political climate of the 90s did a lot more for CRPGs and games and other media in general than the current one.
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>>541249014
Would a sister kill herself if this happened
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>>541249605
That would be one outcome, another would be becoming a mercenary.
If her romance was active, she'd marry you and live a somewhat sad and childless life as the RT's lady. But if you completed all her romance quests she'd find her faith again, and have your children
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>>541250543
>her faith again, and have your children
sure buddy. hopefully she dies in battle
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1.5 notes:
Fixed the ending slides so that Pasqal always shoots your waifu, whomever she happens to be. If you don't have one, he shoots Argenta.
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>>541252728
pasqal is my waifu though
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>>541252728
>Pasqal shoots himself
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>>541253035
>>541253043
based
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>>541178160
>people under the rogue trader trailers were saying it looked like a "bg3 at home" and a "mobile version of bg3"

Now I'm trying to look back at 2022 trailers to find those comments.

Are they buried now because they didn't get that many thumbs up, or were they on a different video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4VUmndj9rw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM7NTyP8m7A
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>>541188951
It's wanting to fuck above your station. To plant your peasant seed in a stuck-up princess. Only it's a whole race of princes and princesses that are supposedly better than humans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-0Oect0nVQ
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>not being the superior race
ISHYGDDT
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We need studios to realize bg3 has set the precedent and they need to rise to the new standards. Owlcat can either get with the times or die
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>>541257568
>or die
They've been throwing people unfinished an unoptimised garbage that they now have the gall to say they publish games.
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>>541257568
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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Hey, for those of you who use custom portraits for your Rogue Trader character, where do you get your art?
I'm going to start a new run soon, and I don't want to use any of the ones already provided.
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>>541257840
AI is sadly your only real choice since finding good 40k art that's usable for portraits is hard.
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>>541257840
Its really hard to find good portraits for RT. The 40gay aesthetic isn't generic. You have either AI sloppa or some non-40gay fanart to use. This pack is decent.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/226?tab=images
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>>541256239
Probably buried over the years, but I distinctly rememember a couple, I even replied to a comment claiming it was someone trying to "copy" bg3 (some people apparently believe crpgs simply didn't exist before it)
I also remember when it was shown in a game conference the twitch chat erupting with "wtf is this shit" and "mobile game?"

Perhaps its simply a case where my brain selectively remembers the comments that made me mad so I remember more than there actually were
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>see this
What do
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>>541258338
>Start casting Blizzard
>Bait with Alistair
>Win
Or cast Blood Magic if I managed to get it already/
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>>541176435
Ironically, GWs has been moving in the direction of prettier Eldar, making Yrliet look uglier in comparison.
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>>541215275
>https://perchance.org/ai-character-generator
I wish they indicated what each Art Style choice adds to the text prompt. Hard to tell what's the most fitting choice for CRPG portraits at first. Apparently picking Fantasy Portrait does this:

>prompt=stern grizzled guard in powered armor in front of an electronically locked door, d&d, fantasy, highly detailed, digital painting, artstation, sharp focus, fantasy art, character art, illustration, 8k, art by artgerm and greg rutkowski. It's an absolute world-class masterpiece artwork. It's an aesthetically pleasing artwork with impeccable attention to detail and impressive composition.
>negativePrompt=
>guidanceScale=7
>seed=64531910
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>>541259409
Try giving him a Aquila
>Stylised double-headed eagle symbol on his chest plate
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>>541259359
Looks familiar
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>>541259359
I kinda like how ugly Yrliet is somehow
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>>541221360
Actually yeah, for a certain definition of popular. By the nature of not being a video game, traditional games have an even greater demand for custom character portraits, so there's a whole /slop/ general thread.

>>>/tg/catalog#s=/slop/
>>>/tg/96662742
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>>541262052
Those /tg/ /slop/ threads are a bit on life support now, just a few regulars
/g/ however always has several slop threads, for all different models including local gen. They'll help you with whatever you might want.
>>>/g/sdg
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DAO dungeons really overstay their welcome
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>>541262318
>Deep Roads
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>>541262740
Yes, that's the worst offender without a doubt
It just kept going on for no reason
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>>541259409
Try looking up different artists besides artgerm and rutkowski. These prompt words feel really dated, too.

Get rid of "It's an absolute world-class masterpiece artwork. It's an aesthetically pleasing artwork with impeccable attention to detail and impressive composition." shit like this though apparently some of it is sometimes good for dumb tagging reasons.

Try "concept art" and "oil painting" if you want it to look more traditional. Don't do "traditional art" since sometimes that results in getting weird images where there's random pencils on the sides or it looks like a photo of paper art.
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>>541261874
There's something deeply wrong with you
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>>541262984
Oh come on, it's her
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>>541262043
I like elf bombshells, but it is charming. Yrliet really should have been a "friend" option, and not mutually exclusive with the other romances.
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All eldar kinda look alike though, the only reason Yrliet is unattractive is because her ingame model is made by owlcat-grade 3d modellers.

The portrait art is more or less spot on with official eldar shit.
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>>541214426
#4
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>>541263403
Why is she balding?
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>discussion of what some celebrity looks like
jesus christ
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>>541263913
/crpg/ is always moments away from breaking out into discussion of literally anything else
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>>541262926
>concept art
I've always liked this one
>acrylic concept art, sci-fi fantasy , relaxed posture, of a stern grizzled guard in power armor in front of an electronically locked door.
Couple of decent results
Using Bing image gen with the Dalle3 option
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>>541263859
Anglo
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what crpg has the most voice acting after bg3?
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>>541264370
Deus Ex
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>>541264370
Probably Mass Effect 3
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>>541264370
Divinity 2 was fully voice acted too I think
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>>541263403
Do you even play crpgs or do you just come here to post garbage?
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>>541264370
bg2
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>>541264821
I play Skyrim, Deus Ex, and Diablo
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>>541264370
Deadfire has a lot
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How much longer until the hyboria game?
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Since the orgin reworks are coming out in less than a month owlcat should just drop the new abilities
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>>541262926
Out of curiosity I tried that site's "Concept Art" art style and it adds this to the prompt. I wonder how long ago they designed this. Did model updates make the boilerplate obsolete?

>, concept art, digital art, illustration, inspired by wlop style, 8k, fine details, sharp, very detailed, high resolution, world-class masterpiece.
>
>Overall, it's absolute world-class masterpiece concept art. It's an aesthetically pleasing concept art with impeccable attention to detail and impressive composition.

Sometimes it gives something useable, other times it produces something that really does look like concept art but isn't exactly useable.
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>try to mindread someone to get more insight or skill/stat points
>berlihnn says some obvious shit instead of either of those things happening
What the fuck is this guy's problem
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Oh fuck off Morrigan, I wanted to hear it!
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>>541265910
>is always a killjoy
>bitches and moans if you do something that slightly helps someone else, even if its the most logical and beneficial course of action
why is she like this
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>>541265605
Try line art with watercolor fill
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Just beat Rogue Trader for the first time.
What the FUCK is Jae's problem?
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>>541266007
shes a chudette
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>>541266110
Not sure what you ended up with. In my version she was my obedient servant serving me from the shadows and lived in a fortified compound I built for her
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>>541266007
>why is she like this
Severe lack of hugs
Needs fixing
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Yrliet clogged my toilet then pretended it wasn't her
I know it was you, you cow
It was a crystal the size of an orange
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>>541266110
she's your typical scoundrel cold trader, if you actually bought the "gyspie space princess" story thats on you. personally I don't like her because she makes you do a fucking stealth mission in a crpg
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What crpgs do they play?
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>>541266110
Did you get friend zoned by her
Lol
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My mom is watching with me and she asked who these characters are twice already
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>>541266973
Oh right
I had forgotten tonight its the big return
Marisha is playing a tranny
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This was not part of the trial
You made it up so you could force the adventurers butt naked
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>>541266632
In my ending slides she started wars against Kibellah and Solomorne.

>if you actually bought the "gyspie space princess" story thats on you.
She revealed that she wasn't at all. She confessed her whole story was a lie and I just didn't care. Wasn't gonna kill her over that.

>>541267207
No
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>>541268685
>In my ending slides she started wars against Kibellah and Solomorne.
Oh that
Yeah her and Kibellah kept trying to kill each other
I don't recall the Solomorne one
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>>541266110
Rogue trader sucks fucking gen full of 40k autists
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Uhh, this can't be right.
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>>541257568
BG3 is only so popular because of its production quality (mocapped scenes and fully voiced dialogues). Otherwise normies wouldn't have bothered playing a traditional crpg because god forbid a normie has to read and use his imagination.
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so bg3 was mass effect for zoomies
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>>541271014
>Effects and Conditions: Petrified
need a scroll of stone to flesh or put it in someone's spell book if they have it in their list
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>>541272238
yea but BG3 is unironically the best CRPG to date
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>>541266007
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>>541272498
>an unfinished game with inconsistent writing and plotholes is the best CRPG
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>>541272498
This but unironically
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>>541273094
yes. its better than all owlslop combined
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>>541273094
>an unfinished game with inconsistent writing
That's the whole genre
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how long before rogue trader is properly voiced and complete with all dlcs
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>>541274217
It needs full mo cap too
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>>541274530
that money is being spent elsewhere anon
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>>541273449
Age of decadence and colony ship were finshed.
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So this is how CRPGs die
with thunderous shitposts
P002M
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Owlcat should just do a EA pierod for thier games so that way people can report bugs and then do a full launch with a finshed game.
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>>541212185
>>541265613
>868x1133

Who slipped up and made the template a picture for ants.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/6625626
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>>541274616
100 players on release, calling it now
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>>541272498
If that's true then why do I have absolutely no interest in ever playing it again? Also I have multiple BG1&2 playthroughs, 2 Wasteland3 playthroughs, 3 full WotRs, 2 Pillars1 and looking forward to playing Deadfire again too.

BG3 is just basically a pretty mid game wrapped up in fancy graphics. But that doesn't last. Hence why nobody here ever has anything actually to say about it, and why /bgg/ is a festering garbage pit with also nothing to say, and that's being artificially kept alive by the same couple posters for the most part.
BG3 was not one for the ages, unfortunately.
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>>541275097
You got me curious and...damn son

>>541275648
This is also a pretty dead thread anon, and my (longer than I like to admit) time spent on 4chan has taught me that the smaller the community is, the more bitter its residents like you are toward more successful titles.
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I really didn't like how almost every companion in bg3 and Divinity original sin 2 to an extent are some Uber special someone of super importance, I really liked sebille and I didn't like the twist that she was actually someone super important, bg3 has it worse though gale has his whole "forced companion that if he dies the game ends early" thing shadowheart has the shar and fucking D20 maguffin, karlach was part of that forever war between devil hell and demon hell and has that thing in her chest. Everyone's got their "I'm the main character of THIS story" thing going on that I really just don't need. It could just be how larain makes their characters is a high base powerlevel, but like man i liked woljif and he's a pretty cut and dry CN tiefling thief, he has that amulet from his grandparents but its not like his quest turns him into the next tiefling jesus or anything.
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>>541275793
Yes and? Dota 2 has 400k players right now. Is it the best CRPG ever made?
There's no discussion about BG3 because it's just simply not that great of a game. You go through it, you explore a couple variations (not that many though, really) and there's nothing much else to say.
Most of the reactivity is just mad-libs with some class/race specific flavor that ends up with the same result. Act1 is solid if a bit small, but 2&3 fall apart badly.
I have other complaints too but don't feel like rehashing them over and over. I really cannot imagine anyone playing that game more than 2 times in their life, tops. The marketing, mocap, and other fluff is what got those big normie-numbers. I'd bet a lot that BG3 is the only CRPG that half those players have ever or will ever play.
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>>541275648
What fucking good discussion do you ever see about anything else here? The schizos here can only ever manage to talk about romances and half the posts are people shitposting about games they haven't even played.
Plus there's no point even trying to talk about BG3 here when it's just going to devolve into the usual spergs having a mental breakdown about halsin
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>>541276591
>Dota 2 has 400k players right now. Is it the best CRPG ever made?
I'm going to assume you an actual autistic child (as in ACTUALLY autistic and not le funney internet insult) from this opening sentence and will simply choose not to engage with you further. But know that you are a burden upon your family and a net negative on whatever online community you insert yourself into.
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>>541272484
No no, that's her stat sheet when you fight her in Neatholm
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>>541276549
Lae'zel is a teenager who just graduated from bootcamp.
Minthara is just an exile. She used to be in Banrae which is a big deal house but she's like a 20th cousin or whatever since they sent her on random missions.
Wyll is just a warlock. His dad runs the flaming fist I guess.
Karlach also isn't particularly special, she was a slave who slowly grew to be a high level barb in mechanical terms but she was just a slave soldier.

So this is true as often as it is not true, or perhaps even not true more often than it is true. Shart and Gale are special little mary sues but most of the cast aren't.

>>541274845
They do. I've been in all of them. If you preorder the game they give you beta access and have a bug report system. Lots of stuff I reported in KM/Wotr got changed.
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>There's no discussion about BG3 because it's just simply not that great of a game.
Literally has its own separate general thats faster than ours. In terms of popularity bg3>every other crpg.
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>>541266007
there's an old /v/ comic about this. wish I saved it.
>because I am a HERO OF JUSTICE
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>>541277418
>In terms of popularity
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>>541277561
Name a crpg more popular schizo.
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>>541276830
I accept your concession
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>>541277641
if popularity is all it took to determine quality the fifa games would be the best ever made
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>>541277418
>Literally has its own separate general thats faster than ours
>implying it actually has any meaningful discussion
>implying it's not only faster because of all the cuck and waifu posting
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>>541275648
BG3 is junkfood crpg. Widely palatable to mass normies
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Sales only matter if I like a game and it sells well or I don't like a game and it doesn't sell.
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>>541278084
sales shouldn't matter to you either way. the fuck do you care what some company made as a consumer?
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>>541278148
Sorry bro but you HAVE to care that your favourite game sold more or less compared to my favourite game.
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>>541277945
>implying it's not only faster because of all the cuck and waifu posting
This describes 90% of owlcat post but this general loves them
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What's a good sorcerer lich build? Should I build my sorc for damage or CC?
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>>541279107
>What's a good sorcerer lich build?
I don't see how you can go wrong though it's better to hyper specialize in one damage school since mythic feats make that route go ham.
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>>541279347
Which spell school is the most fun/powerful? I want a sorc lich that can CC the fuck out of everyone and let my minions do rape.
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>>541279634
probably fire or shadow but ember and nenio already do those pretty well if you build them for it. if you want summons focus on necromancy I guess but I've never built for that so I can't help you there. a lot of negative levels in your future methinks.
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>>541279634
Enchantment and Necromancy. Enchantment has some really fun CC. Necromancy and the lich spellbook has great stuff too but the very highest spell levels are a bit boring to me, variations of "just do a bunch of damage".
Mass Hold Monster especially with the higher merged lich spellbook and specializing in Enchantment, is almost an "I win" button. Free coup de grace also which some people might forget about.
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>>541274995
When I was going through the asylum I tried to read a guy's mind only for Berlihnn to say I didn't want to hear the guy's thoughts after I had already paid
Ygerna larped as a dead dragon knight to get me to bring her back to life and then put me in a cuck crystal after she was done with me but at least she didn't waste my experience by taking over my mindreads to say nothing of value
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Bg3 might be the lord if the rings of crpgs. Owlcat,Obsidian, inexile ect.... all say they want to make the next bg3; studios will be using them as a blue print for generations.
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They told me I was crazy for saying she was a companion.
Who is laughing now?
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>>541281808
listen man I'm just not getting my hopes up for owlcat companions anymore. she likely has a dick or is a cannibal or something.
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>>541281890
So, where's the downside?
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>>541281808
Why would the lady prominently featured on the box not be a companion
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>>541281808
I thought everyone agreed she was a companion
Who did ever say otherwise?
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I think RTWP sucks!
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>daring Grim Darkness run cut short by drukhari niggerpirates
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bros kibbles voice is pure sex
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>>541229178
How can you even tell?
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>>541281808
cant wait to see how she cucks you
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>Wenduag keeps screaming "I pee in your blood" as battle starts

???????
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>>541282767
/v/ermin
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>>541283773
You're thinking of Obsidian
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Alright here are the RPGs on my wishlist
>Rogue Trader
>Legends of Eisenwald
>Age of Decadence
>Colony Ship
>Serpent in the Staglands
>Neverwinter Nights
>Icewind Dale
>Stellar Tactics
>ATOM RPG
>Wartales
Which ones would you guys recommend? I'm not buying all of them but my backlog's been cleared so I can buy a couple
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>>541284776
>>Serpent in the Staglands
10/10 name for that game
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>>541274616
Is this space drek? I hate space drek
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I like the officer class from skald. More rpgs should use the concept of a warrior that uses charisma that isnt a paladin.
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>>541284776
Is wartales a crpg?
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>>541281808
>character on the box is a character
no fucking way. also I'm betting she's the mandated whore owlkek puts in every game they make
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WE are all romancing the science nerd with big dick sucking lips not the generic blond bimbo.
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>>541285347
I'm watching the trailer right now and you're right it's not really. It's a weird grid battle thing. I guess I assumed it was because it kind of looks like it'd be one
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>>541284776
This is the rogue trader general, so that
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>>541285585
this unironically
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I always play female characters in RPGs to avoid the uncomfortable-for-a-male audience storylines. They’re always poorly written and I don’t care about some washed-up millennial trying to project his middle aged ruminations about gender and manhood. Meanwhile female characters usually get some quality/fun exclusive content
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>>541285585
I'll make sure to take all her equipment and have her stand in the open to get killed during the prologue.
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>>541285781
>character gen actually having an effect on the game
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>>541285706
Do you get to make Abelard announce you at the start of every conversation or is that just a meme
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>>541286027
you get to except for the times owlcat forgets so like after act 2 it stops happneing
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>>541284776
Icewind Dale is a must play. All of the old infinity engine games are IMO.
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>>541286079
I don't want to buy Rogue Trader anymore
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>>541285969
Not that anon but if you are a female then Sosiel will not attempt to rape you
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In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, everything bad happens (except non-consensual sex)
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I can't take space marines seriously because their pauldrons are too big
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>>541287086
Argenta should rape you and the type of rape should depend on your alignment. For example if your a heratic she brutally sodomizes you with a barbed object.
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>>541286982
soseil is the one that gets raped by demon though
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Owlcat's not-ME is less on-topic than AI slop btw
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Is larian the lebron james (GOAT) of crpgs?
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>>541287245
That is where the soul resides
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>>541285781
>uncomfortable-for-a-male audience storylines
What does this mean?
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>>541233474

If not knowing where to dip is not needed on Core then why do you recommend Normal first?
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>>541288252
It would cause a ton of cuck and schizo posting
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>>541283981
Which part don't you get
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>>541233189
>Consider Bard or Skald, you get no companions with either of those classes

I got spoiled a little (inevitable when the game's been out for so long) so I know that there are mythic classes and I have a penchant for being a goody two-shoes, which means I'll probably become an Angel. Does this work with either?
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>>541285585
I'm romancing belter teen yrliet
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>>541288310
how is that any different from every other day
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>>541288515
>teen
She will be ember 2.0 aka not romanceable because she is to young
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Is WOTR turn based good?
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>>541288948
Yes dnd and its derivatives always feel better turn based
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>>541288515
she will be lesbian
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I am not your belter pet, tumang
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>>541288252
what anon probably meant was THERES TOO MUCH GAY PANSEXUAL SHIT SO IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN I PLAY A MALE AVATAR AND GAYFAGGOTGALE STARTS LOCKING FINGERS WITH MY AVATAR
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>>541288948
no it will take you literal months to complete
rtwp through the endless trash (broken) spam and use turn based for difficult encounters
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>>541288948
You can switch on the fly, so, turn-based for the difficult fights/moments, real time for cleanup duty.
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>>541289087
Based owlcat will never spoil a romance by making it lesbian
Enjoy your vague yuri Yrlidumb
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Just like how the NBA uses magnets in the balls to rig it, im 99% owlcat games dont actually use random dice rolls and everything is predetermined.
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>>541289213
>I don't play male characters because i don't want to have sex with gay male NPCs
>That is why i play female characters to have sex with straight male NPCs instead

????
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I like solasta
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This quest was metal as fuck bros. Is the rest of the DLC this good?
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>>541283721
Female voice + the Necron narator referes to her as a she
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>>541292340
You like imagining others having sex with men?
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I keep having wet dreams about argenta, I think im going to manifest a argenta gf soon.
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If there are no good waifus for DH, I'm just gonna make my MC a hot female and have her fuck Rambo and Larry.
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Can you think of some CRPGs that were made using a custom made game engine? Some I can think of is Underrail and Fallout 1 and 2. And of course Larian's games. Tbh I don't really know why some devs would rather built a game from scratch rather using some industry standard propriety engine. It's not like crpgs have complex game mechanics in the first place.
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>>541293734
There's gonna be a deldar waifu
Owlkek wouldn't let us down
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I think I'm starting to transition from Human Sword Fighter to Dwarf Axe Fighter...
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>>541295963
41% of HTD transitioners regret their decision within 2 sessions
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>>541294426
If that's the case I fear the humiliation shit they'll put in, unless she's a Ynnari
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>>541297397
If she's an Ynnari, then she'll be the one getting humiliated, which will be a refreshing change of pace.
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>>541265605
I bet they're still using SD 1.5 actually, the results, resolution and prompts somewhat suggest that.
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>>541283284
I've been trying to clone her accent with some sound AI shit for lewd audios but its not come out so well. May try again when I can find some better stuff for that.
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>>541298384
kill yourself
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>>541286027
Not ALWAYS but often enough
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>>541286027
It happens a lot at first then sporadically later
>Abelard, there is some sort of vile creature sitting in my chair. Get rid of it.
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>>541298384
Just pay the VA to do it for you, she'd be up for it.
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>>541288437
Yep.

>>541294226
It's clear that you don't know anything about programming/gamedev otherwise you would see that custom engine is the ideal, and Unity/Unreal is the worse option but "easier" (in some short-term sense anyhow)
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>>541301578
I know some VAs do that kind of thing but I can't imagine she would, the more professional ones don't go in for lewd audios.
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>>541302195
Pay her to do non-lewd audios, then use that extra material to feed a lewd AI, then post it on her twitter
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>>541302270
Its her accent I like, not her voice specifically, anyway.

Also that's a deranged suggestion.
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>>541302374
>that's a deranged suggestion
I am helpful, am I not
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>>541302541
Cammers would be more subtle
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>>541302270
That's more of a Wenduag suggestion
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i cant romance anyone except fenris in da2
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>>541302940
Did you enjoy Veilguard? It covers where he's from.
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>>541303141
i don't have a ps5 or a PC that can run it
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>>541303278
There's lots of youtube streams of it you can enjoy
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>>541304898
Cute
What more can I say? We don't know her personality
Apparently she's like 2 meters tall, which is hot
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>>541304898
Same vibes as this bitch
>Apparently she's like 2 meters tall
Must be a Mart. She doesn't look like a belta
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>>541304898
my future wife
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We'll never get a CRPG with good story ever again because all zoomers nowadays only care about food, sex, and shit like fucking animals instead of brooding over the meaning of life.
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>>541307162
How did he justify kicking you out, I've forgotten
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>>541307162
>thank you for saving us, now leave
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>>541307162
>truth is, the game was rigged from the start
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>>541307162
What's his endgame?
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>want to get berenguer to go demon hunting
>literally can't talk to him, for some reason i just get this
What the hell happened and is there any way to fix it?
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>>541307082
not if owlkek has anything to say about it
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>>541307082
She'll cheat on you with Marazhai
>but that's a different setting
Nevertheless
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>space rpg but without ayys
DOA
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>>541312583
Ayys don't exist anywhere in the observable universe.
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>>541313778
Ayys have literally been detected on Blessed Mars in the last few weeks
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>>541313778
>there are no aliens chuddy >:(
>dinosaurs are feathered btw >:(((
why is scienceâ„¢ so gay bros
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>>541313778
because it's well-known people play space games only to the extent they're realistic and this is why nobody remembers Mass Effect but Starfield will be played for decades
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>>541307162
Devs can't write a good story anymore because nobody reads books.
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>>541313778
Neither do demons yet you will notice pathfinder has plenty of them
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>>541288948
Turn based dnd is the definitive way to play.
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>>541313778
did you visit every earth-like planet in every galaxie?
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>>541307629
IIRC it was your radiation exposure made you unsafe.
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>>541314974
>every earth-like planet
There is exactly one (1) of these
All others are airless shitholes like Mars or Trappist 1 b
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>>541302940
proto-Astarion
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>>541315771
Mars is not a shithole.
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>>541307629
You became a cold killer during your journey with hundreds of corpses behind you and he felt like you would never adjust to vault life again. You might even becomes a bad influence. There is some support for this theory in psychology, some people do have trouble integrating back into normies, but players had a problem with it because he doesn't even let you try first, he just says you can't come back in so it felt like betrayal or not betrayal but assuming and not giving you a chance or a choice.

>>541304898
Pretty, but we don't know anything. I'm looking forward to that game though. I love mass effect and I've never not liked an owlcat game so I will support them in their branching out into the action 3d game experiment.

>>541292542
Yeah void shadows is legitimately good.
lex imperialis has its moments too, like the funny fuedal planet and the chaos ritual segment, but I think overall VS had more cool stuff and intrigue.
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>>541292542
>He is Death
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>>541313778
do you like starfield any chance
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>>541314812
I also strongly suspect this.
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I've recently come to appreciate ironman mode in CRPGs.
>can't savescum
>decisions and outcomes actually matter
>every battle must be approached carefully
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Just picked up the first of the owlcannon and just don't get it. I did the trading post and the bandit camp and just as I'm trying to feel around the map for level 3(it;s a crawl) I get ganked by this technic league and they kidnap a companion and now I'm somehow worse off than before.. Shit's fucked up.
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>>541318238
I appreciate it too but it's not practical when there's so much "haha you didn't predict this stupid thing that will now TPK you" in games. I'm not sure a better solution, but there has to be some ground between nothing and strict Ironman.
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>>541318503
I think the middle ground is self control to not savescum, which I don't have.
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>>541318469
Mild spoiler that you may have already realized:
It's not over between you and the Technic League. The kidnapped companion can be rescued. The early game can be quite punishing, but you're still a nobody so it's fitting. That encounter is definitely weighted towards you losing so don't feel too bad about it.
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>>541318910
I know but they still kick my ass. Along with the rest of the map because now I'm down to 3. Maybe I should reroll? I think rogue was a mistake. In every ttrpg and game based on them it seems to be more of a swiss army knife for illegal activities than a real character.
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a CRPG where you play as bandits just trying to make your way in the world
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>>541319139
You mean you get your ass kicked while trying to save your companion? Did you try doing rogue shit around their camp? Because there are other prisoners there...
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>>541318503
ironman lite with no manual save but it doesnt brick the save on loss
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>>541317013
he had the balls to tell you to your face, avg player response is murder
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>>541319640
When does it save though?
JA3 does it like this and I like it but there's still room for player fuckery, I like anon also lack self control sometimes. It saves on enter/exit a sector, and enter/exit combat. So you could choose some options you don't like and then restore on entering the sector. Or run over some mines and decide to restore.
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>>541319169
kingmaker
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>>541320469
Save at the start of each sector and it's completely upfront about it
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>>541319357
And do what? sneak awkwardly? Does't even have any abilities. The fucking sword and board mogs everyone simply by outlasting. Seems like a complete trash class and I need to reroll and do this aaaaaallllll over again.
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>>541321272
And rescue the 2 additional companions that will then help you in the fight you fucking turnip
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>>541320705
Ahh, I missed the no-manual. That seems like the best approach.
It's tough though because it still lacks that "holy shit everything is on the line" tension when you know you can give it another shot pretty easily.
On the other hand, if I lose an ironman save 3/4 through the game I'm probably not starting over, or maybe in a month or two. And if it's due to some pathing bullshit or something like that, I'm probably annoyed and feeling like shit about the wasted time and not wanting to play again at all.

It's a tough nut to crack.
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a CRPG where you meet companions you discarded in the first act in the finale and they're the same level as you and have sided with the villain
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>>541324193
This kinda happens in DOS2 as everyone you ditched in the first act "comes back" by the end of Act 3 to try and kill you. NWN2 has some variant but it's more on your companions betraying you if you didn't butter them up enough.
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>>541324193
I thought Wendog would do this but lol
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>>541324710
>>541324710
>>541324710
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>>541323314
Did that but they aggro the enemies just accross the way.
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>>541313778
The observable universe is subject to significant amounts of lag. This latency throws observation into question. Though I personally agree that they likely don't exist, if they did exist we wouldn't see them without some kind of FTL technology in order to survey star systems on site.



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