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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8691 - Coliseum Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailer
https://youtu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE

>SAGExpo 2025
https://www.sagexpo.org/

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk #8 | Silver & Blaze
https://youtu.be/CNZgW0480go

>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crew
https://youtu.be/GiYfo0Wy2NA

>Mobile card game Sonic Blitz
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Movie Spinoffs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 17 December 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
https://tails.kicks-ass.net/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OCs:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixels:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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>>541258804
Guess the answer is no.
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Will Honey's image as the "Tails Femdom girl" ever be fixed?
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>>541259378
Why didn't you update the OP like we asked you to?
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>>541259740
Made for men
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>>541259825
Nah.
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TAILS SNAPPED
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>>541259378
Tails is shit.
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I think this thread needs more Surge.
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>>541259740
Why are Silverfags so gay?
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>>541259825
When true honey fans have enough fuel to take her back from tails self inserters. So when she gets into the games or something.
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>>541260069
I agree

signed maybe paps you'll never know I'm not gonna bother drawing something to go along with this post
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>>541259936
i have a life outside tails you know
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WHY DOES EVERYONE WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH TAILS
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>>541260127
When honey gets into the games again i mean
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>>541260419
I can't stand gays who act so gay
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>>541260369
yeah but it isn't interesting

more statutory rape pls
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>>541260450
>WHY DOES EVERYONE WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH TAILS
A mother figure kissing you on the cheek doesn't mean sex. If you think that stay away from your actual parents.
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Was Elise's neck always like that...?
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>>541260702
copy that
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>>541260450
Sally's character is "Mature serious girl" written from the perspective of an older male. So he wrote Sally based on how women (Adults) acted when he was a child.
To her, kissing is a completely sexless act of appreciation. It's like when old grannies kiss.
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>>541260021
>TAILS SNAPPED
in his dreams, cuck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_dZoSSf1kw
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>Tails can hack computers in satam
>Has absolutely no tech smarts in the original manga

Bros.... is smart Tails.... WESTSHIT?
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>>541260021
>>541260865
Samefag.
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>>541260962
Schizo.
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Wassup /sthg/ang don't be a stranger now yahear
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>>541260450
I can't believe Tails rejected Perci.
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>>541260225
I like her recent Riders design a lot. Might seem dorky but I think the glasses are cool.
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>>541261042
Perci's approach to flirting tails was very rude and gross. Making sure his entire support system was absent before putting him on the spot. If the genders were flipped that would be very rapey.
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>>541260962
I disagree with my counterpart vehemently, but I defend to the death anon's right to say it.
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Can someone make a version of the mansion where it's just rundown, abandoned and shitty?
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Elise is now a little girl
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>>541261374
See this? That's my area
Please respect it and leave me be in there
Thank you!
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'ge
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>>541260021
Time to put that puppy down.
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All hail Penders!
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>>541261327
Photoshop. The background isn't even blue kid. Embarrassing.
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>>541261698
Obliterating everything that's not Star Trek!
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>>541259378
But what if he has to pee?
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>>541261472
Back atcha, toots!
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>>541260702
yes it's one of her sexy appeal points
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>>541259378
TAILS RAPE!
TAILS RAPE!
TAILS RAPE!
Who/what is Tails raping though?
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>>541261472
>>541261863
Now with extra canon.
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>>541261209
aaron did a good job with it
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>>541261848
jenhen...
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>>541262001
>Who/what is Tails raping though?
a rusty nail until his dick falls off
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>>541262001
Kit
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>>541262013
Do girls really do that? Hit each other in the womb? Isn't that like kicking a guy in the balls?
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Why do you want to hurt Tails? Boy has done nothing wrong.
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>>541262218
When women fight they usually try to grab each other's hair and flurry head slap/punches at really odd angles at each other.
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>>541261285
I never thought of it like that...
Guess Tails was smarter than Sonic and Knuckles.
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Honey jumping into a cartoon punch cloud with Tails, except instead of punches you see spurts of his cum
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>>541259378
She's ready.
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>>541262218
Girls are a lot more resilient at being hit in the crotch area than guys. I don't know why God gave guys so much pain at being kicked there. Maybe to level the playing field a little to offset the lower upper-body strength. Maybe as revenge for not feeling the pain of childbirth.
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>tailspedo garbage
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I hate all the drama about IDW's comics, but they have the scariest Robotnik since the cyborg abomination that Satan had.
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Douge
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>541261042
The twin thing may be a little weird and confusing for Tails, and Perci seems like the type who'd play tricks and role-swap with Staci for fun. Tails is a traditional potato boy!
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>>541260702
Ostrich bitch.
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>>541262883
99% of the drama is unfounded, meritless bitching from twitter vermin who are better off dead
1% of it is legitimate criticism that is drowned out by the incessant bitching of unemployed retards literally using indian bots to whine about IDW.

If you have to spend money or time out of your own pocket to bot an opinion, chances are it's not really that valid in the first place
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>>541263693
>why do you hire this fat bastard
lmao who the fuck is hiring indians to spam twitter. That's worse than using chatgpt to do it
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>>541263693
Honestly, I don't know anything or anyone. I just look at this thread, see people talking about comics a bit, then 749 posts about how comics are literally worse than Hitler.
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elise is one of my favorite characters
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>>541263693
>merit
I keep hearing that word a lot recently...
Why do zoomers always show their zoom?
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>>541263246
I've seen so much art with her tongue pierced that I sometimes forget it isn't canon.
>>541263341
Based.
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>>541263867
Honestly it makes so much sense I wouldn’t blame people for thinking that.
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>>541260956
Sonic would call him "pixelbrain" in StC.
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>>541262883
Why do the comics keep making his mustache orange when it's brown.
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>>541263835
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/meritless

Here you go my dumb fuck nigga. Since I know you're lazy as shit (you buy indians to flood twitter instead of making well-written, thought out criticisms), I'll also paste it here for you:
>Meritless means wholly without merit or for the sole purpose of harassing an opposing party.

Need me to dig up the definition for merit or are we good?
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Nintendo is content releasing Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 ports on Switch 2 but Iizuka says we want new experiences
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>>541261651
"Jeeze Amy, I was only *asking*, if you really don't want to take my virginity then that's totally cool..."
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>>541264139
No, we're not good.
I didn't say it wasn't a real word; I suggested its use has skyrocketed out of nowhere.
It's used by reddit zoombabies first and foremost.
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this is good and all but sonic is the wind
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Yeah I'm deleting that. Sorry champ.
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This image right here is why I really dispise Sage Eggman is not Bowser, Bowser is an actor he can be whatever Nintendo wants him to be and none of his villainy has ever claimed lives like Eggman's has, this dude started a fucking war that claimed many lives, how many people died in Forces campaign, how many people died when he caused Station Square to be flooded, how many people died when he caused the planet to split by awakening Dark Gaia? How many people did he kill in that japanese only comic blade of courage to the point the little boy in the manga straight up tried to kill him in return? for such a murderous madman to just be on such casual terms with so many of the cast despite their clear locthing of him just to play with his ai daughter is such a tonal shift and you can't just blame it all on MUH WESTERN EDGE shit, the japanese have written tons of Stories where Eggman has caused death and destruction almost all of what I listed is the result of thatm

THis is why the sonic franchise loses to Mario it constantly tries to take itself seriously AND try to be a never ending clown show that gives no fucks at the same time, Mario fans are cucks who knew what it was the 80s days but Sonic fans have been lied to by Sega for almost 40 years and it's resulted in this sad joke of a franchise that has schizo fanbase and schizo writers nobody can pick a fucking lane and the franchise suffers from it

is it a clown show like Mario or is it taking itself seriously? Which is it? Sega needs to decide because people are starting to finally walk away and that new lolicon base is fickle they'll find a new jail bait to stroke it too in due time
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Do you think Crossworlds will ever sell enough copies to break even on how much SEGA had to spend to license all those characters?
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sage is cool like the wind
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When IDW has a good story and doesn't mischaracterize the canon cast and its own characters I'll start liking the comic.
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>>541264780
its fanart
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>>541264579
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>>541264916
Nobody cares, nobody asked, we're on the schizo nature of the game world and plots right now nobody cares for anything outside that because it's NOT CANON
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>>541262218
>Isn't that like kicking a guy in the balls?
I guess the closest to that is being punched in the boob. Round parts are humans' collective design weakness it seems.
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>>541264780
Nobody cares about this as much as you do.
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>>541263814
....why?
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>>541265017
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>>541264780
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>>541264983
That makes it worse, it just shows this fanbase doesn't know what the actual tone of the franchise is supposed to be either, is it serious or is it comedic, are they bitter enemies who are supposed to kill each other on sight or are they frenemies where all this shit is just a backdrop for the game they're all playing? fucking which is it? tired of this shit, tired of hte lies, tired of the constant retons, constant rewrites, constant going back, I'm almost 40 years old don't give me that bullshit like it's just a child's plaything or that the series is no longer for you, this is the principle of the matter, Sega must be more consistant, they must write these characters approiately for the world they're supposed to represent and inhabit, their failure to do so is why the franchise is so medicore, so dishonest and constantly losing to Mario
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I turned my main into AI
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>>541265105
>not pictured: the gigantic hedgecock boner below sonic's waist
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>>541265065
That's not true and you know it, for decades this war has been fought, if people didn't care so strongly nobody would be doing anything, this board would not exist and the threads on /v/ wouldn't get so headed and this fanbase in general wouldn't have so many fan projects out there that all take the setting seriously from official western media to japan itself in their sonic channel stories and manga yet the games, the fucking games can never decide what they wanna be it's always a fucking toss up
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>>541264780
I agree. Modern Sonic is a confused mess. They want to surpass Mario but they want to he serious and epic which enes up being cringey trope slope because they're hacks. They should just focus on being fun games, like the movies and CrossWorlds.
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>>541265410
>the movies
Already jobbed to Mario. It took 3 Movies and the Wade Show to hit a billion meanwhile Mario did it with a single movie.
>CrossWorlds
A complete FLOP in Japan and jobbed to Mario Kart World.
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This franchise should have been retired like 3 separate times in the past 20 years. You simply must expect this franchise to have no consistency because none of the writers or devs can make anything work. They reinvent their own gameplay mechanics most every game and the most consistent gameplay feature, the boost, has consistently been a broken fucking mess no matter how long they've sat on it.

You simply cannot expect quality in this franchise.
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>>541265410
>fun games, like the movies
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>>541265410
Frontiers is only as dour as it is because the fanbase told them to stop making jokes
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the movies are the only reason you get sonic content anymore
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>>541265692
Literal exact same facial expression.
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>>541265303
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>>541264780
Sonic loses to Mario because Mario is a more famous brand and Nintendo has more money, more influence, and more fanboys. Your post is incoherent ramblings.
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>>541265684
In a perfect world, S3&K would have been the last Sonic game and the franchise would have been vaulted with the death of the Genesis.

Sonic retires on a high note as one of the most iconic retro games of all time and has a perfect library of games for it.
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Ay caramba, Tikal...
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They have to be doing something right for sonic not to have gone the way of Banjo, Gex, Crash, Spyro, Blinx, Jax, Cooper, Conker, Rayman, Bomberman, Ty and Klonoa.
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>>541265792
It's not because it had no jokes. Sonic didn't need jokes. It's just that everything lacked energy. Even when Sonic got serious, it had energy to it. Frontiers was just everyone speaking deeply and calmly with glorified elevator music playing in the background.
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>>541265980
Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Unleashed are infinitely better than Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
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>>541265872
There is also the fact that Sega literally tried the Mario approach with the Meta Era and it became the most demoralizing era in Sonic history.
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>>541266021
The answer is that Sonic has no budget and the Fandom is autistic enough to eat anything with the blue rat on it. Those other mascots had sales quotas to fill and failed.
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>>541265980
The good ending for this franchise would have been SA2 and Sonic Team went on to make other IPs. Basically everything after that game started becoming an absolute cluster fuck.
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>>541266030
I know that, I'm just saying that Sonic Team saw "less jokes pls" and over-corrected the issue. creating new problems. They always do this.
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>>541266021
This

>>541266161
Sonic had high budget before the 2010s
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>>541265840
Yeah suuuuure
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>>541266021
It's the sperg factor.

>>541266160
They did a dogshit job, but the actually good games (Colors, Generations) were celebrated.
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>>541266162
>>541266075
>implying SA2 justifies Knuckles Chaotix existing or the Fandom split caused by SA1
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>>541266172
That's Staci, not Perci.
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>>541265665
WAIT SPEED OMG. BRO U SAVED MY LIFE TYTY
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>>541266341
The split was caused by SoA not respecting the Japanese vision in the early 90s. SA2 is the peak of the series.
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>>541266341
SA2 was worth all that, yeah.
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>>541266341
If SA2 was the end point of the franchise the "split" would never have grown as large as it did. The two sides would have eventually came together like they do nowadays and say "Damn Sonic is cool."
The problem we have these days is that there's like 6 different fucking subfandoms within this fandom and some of them are straight up hostile towards the others.
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>>541266160
Sonic Colors, Gens and Mania were good.

They just fucked it all up with Lost World, Boom and Forces.

The 2020s are actually Sonic's longest winning streak in recorded history. He's had no major flops for the entire 5 years of this decade meanwhile Classic Sonic shit the bed with Knuckles Chaotix on its 5th birthday.
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>>541266432
>The split was caused by SoA not respecting the Japanese vision in the early 90s
Which was a good move because Sonic sells like dog shit in Japan.
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>>541266021
Sonic has more fans than them. And a truth that most fans will never accept is that Sonic.changing gamplay and coming up with gimmicks kept the series fresh even if all of them weren't necessarily good. All those other mascot characters became outdated.
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https://files.catbox.moe/xjm9cg.mp4
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>>541266348
...How can you tell?!
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>>541266603
Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Adventure 2 are the mos renowned games in the franchise.
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>>541266826
Not in Japan.
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>>541266631
This is true. The Sonic series is always trying to be fresh, different, exciting, you don't know what you're going to get next. Fitting of Sonic's character.
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>>541265329
kek
Can't blame him really.
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>>541266468
No it was not.

Knuckles Chaotix was so bad that the Classic Chaotix got thrown into limbo and replaced with the Modern Chaotix and SA1 is the birth of the Classic vs Modern wars. SA2 being the peak is ludicrous when that game also threw more gas on the Classic VS Modern wars and was the precursor to the team system in Heroes which plagues the franchise to this day.
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>>541266910
the pic that ruined everything
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Bun!
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>>541266910
You Son of a Bitch!
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>>541266978
Yeah I don't give a fuck about all that
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>>541266826
>both have been totally outsold by Heroes and Frontiers
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>>541266704
Neither of these Silvers would understand let alone be able to perform sex. They'd just dry hump each other until they orgasmed or something.
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>>541259378
We still never found the source for this
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>>541266860
Lol anon what??? Yes they are the most renowned Sonic games in Japan. They're the only ones that managed to sell decently in Japan. There used to be a lot more Japanese fanart when those games were new, and I'm pretty sure to this day most Japanese fanartists got into the series from the Adventure games. The classics may as well not exist in Japan.
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>>541266910
thanks alot faggor
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>>541266978
Nobody cares about the Chaotix game no one played. SA2 is what everyone cares about.
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Jannies really put in the work. You gotta give it to em
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>>541267326
We should double their pay!
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>>541266910
kek
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>>541266978
Lol, most fans didn't even know what Knuckles Chaotix was because barely anyone bought a 32X.
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>>541265840
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>>541267326
>>541267478
What is this about? /v/?
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>>541266258
They already admitted it
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>>541265986
Spooky up in here
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>>541266075
>Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Unleashed are infinitely better than Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
holy wrong
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>>541266075
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Only 1/3rd of it is "good"
>Sonic Unleashed
>Only 1/2 of it is good
Sonic 3 & Knuckles slams both moderntard.
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>>541266021
True dat.
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Love and hate are two sides of the same coin
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>>541259378
https://e621.net/posts/4940724?q=rape+miles_prower
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what the hell is up with the pedo threads
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>>541268203
which is why Sonic will impregnate both of them
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>>541267129
Sounds hot. (You) should write a short fic.
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>>541268173
100% of SA2 is good.
100% of Unleashed is good.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles isn't even good by classic standards, it just pretends to be good by having quantity over quality, completely ignoring that it has the worst level design of the trilogy. Even most of its music is bad, fake Micheal Jackson music that you pretend to like because he's the most famous person that has pretended to work on the series. If you're going to praise a classic game, at least pick a good one.
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Does Amy shave her pubes?
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>>541267259
Cute!
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>>541251613
>this is a real panel from Sonic IDW comic
Is this nigga Ian Flynn for real?
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>>541268472
>100% of SA2 is good.
Factually wrong. Almost the entire game aged like milk even more than Sa1.
>100% of Unleashed is good.
Factually wrong. Literally forced to go at a stand still gameplay half the levels.
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles isn't even good by classic standards, it just pretends to be good by having quantity over quality, completely ignoring that it has the worst level design of the trilogy. Even most of its music is bad, fake Micheal Jackson music that you pretend to like because he's the most famous person that has pretended to work on the series. If you're going to praise a classic game, at least pick a good one.
>Micheal jackson seethe and thinking Sonic 1 has better level design
You're retarded.
>Quantity over Quality
Most of Modern's lineup. Get taste.
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>>541268969
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>>541268472
you are delusional
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>>541268472
MJ didn't even make the music lol some guy that worked under him did
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>>541268863
Have you SEEN issue 50?

Dude forgets comics are a visual medium on a regular basis
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>>541268865
"Get taste" he says, while he disrespects SA2. Be real, dude.
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>>541268863
Ian was a fan of Ken Penders -- who would litter speech bubbles with text. Ian takes after him in that regard, along with having the characters explain every facet of their motivations so the reader can understand their intentions with no ambiguity.
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>>541268308
Wow this is garbage.
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>>541269171
he's right
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>>541269179
>along with having the characters explain every facet of their motivations so the reader can understand their intentions with no ambiguity.
To be fair, Sonic fans are autistic and would not handle ambiguity well. People genuinely think Shadow doesn't care about Rouge for instance.
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>>541269171
You have nostalgia glasses even tighter than classicfags if you're glazing Sa2 and giving it a 100% in gameplay which is just wrong. Just say you liked the story as a kid and move on.
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>>541268969
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>>541269370
kek
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>>541269363
>just lie to protect my feelings
No.
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>>541268203
Writing my outline a bit further, while I still like the whole concept of Surge and Amy being rivals, I'm also warming up to the idea of one trying to push the other to be better/worse.
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>>541269171
well yeah, if you think SA2 is anything other than a mediocre game with good art direction and music you are fucking retarded
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>>541268865
>Factually wrong. Literally forced to go at a stand still gameplay half the levels.
Curious how that doesn't happen to good players.
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>>541269416
Not feelings, facts, a large majority that has played sa2 says everything besides speed levels and chao garden were clunky messes (and that it has a worse radar and mech fights than sa1), and even then there's sa2 speed levels that weren't that good
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>>541269630
Compared to the boost levels it feels like stand stills no matter how fast you werehog it. It's constant whiplashes of gameplay.
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>>541268308
Can't they just make normal Sonic porn
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>>541269125
>Have you SEEN issue 50
No I don't read stupid gay shit for girls
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>>541268472
>100% of SA2 is good.
me when i ignore mad space and the entirety of tails' levels
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>>541269646
>facts
If we lived in your "perfect" world Sonic 1 would be remembered (by a few nostalgiafags) and Sonic 3 & Knuckles would be forgotten. It didn't sell as well as Sonic 1 and 2, it's not as popular outside of pretentious Sonic fans who think liking the most bloated classic game makes them look sophisticated.
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>>541269772
Like Sonic 1
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>>541269943
>Metal Sonic, but a girl.
Riveting.
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>>541266021
None of them are about going fast at their core
A few of them barely scratch the same level of stage variety and bright colorful worlds
A few of them barely bothered to get edgier
As far as I know none of them had a cartoon slotted into prime tv spots during the boom of anime
And I doubt any of them churned out games at a yearly rate even when one or more before was badly received
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Mephiles actually killed Sonic holy fuck
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Tails!
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>>541270603
is complete shit
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>>541270178
Metal Sonic wants to destroy Sonic because he thinks he's superior.

Surge wants to destroy Sonic because she knows she's inferior.
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>>541270603
is the best!
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>>541269943
This is the peak of IDW
it was all down hill from here
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>>541270649
> Wet fennec hands typed this post
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>>541270761
What do you think “but girl” meant?
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>>541269970
Tails' stages are fun
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>>541270640
If 06 was released today, fans would riot over this
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>>541269972
>If we lived in your "perfect" world Sonic 1 would be remembered (by a few nostalgiafags) and Sonic 3 & Knuckles would be forgotten. It didn't sell as well as Sonic 1 and 2, it's not as popular outside of pretentious Sonic fans who think liking the most bloated classic game makes them look sophisticated.
Your perfect world thinks clunky shit is instant 10/10's with no reason behind it. Sonic 3 is given way more universal praise by Sonic fans and the fandom than what ever drivel you're spouting.
And are you really using bundle sales to prove your point? You think I wouldn't notice that faggot. By your logic modern never will stack up to classic since Sonic 1 eclipses every Sonic game after it, same case for a few other classic games.
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>>541270845
No, it dropped the ball much earlier
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>>541269970
Tails stages were bad.
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>>541270845
Sonic milk? From penis or breast?
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>>541271445
Yes
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>>541270950
Amen.
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>>541271089
Truth.
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>>541271001
The difference is that in the real world the Sonic series is still active and successful. In your fantasy world no one would actually take Sonic seriously. It would just be considered a shitty 90s game that's only remembered by nostalgiafags while everyone else either ignores it or plays along to not offend you, but can't offer any legitimate praise or criticism because they have no interest in playing it. The only game that would be relevant would be Sonic 1, because that's the one the nostalgiafags would remember. Luckily we don't live in that world, we live in a world where the Sonic series is a huge success, it was able to evolve and stay fresh, it keeps getting new fans, and we can all enjoy great amazing like SA2 and Unleashed, or even more direct evolutions of the classics like the Advance trilogy, while still understanding and appreciating the old, limited games, thanks to the newer ones keeping them relevant. Your "perfect" world is shit and if you lived in it you'd be crying every day that the series didn't get to have both 3D and 2D games like other iconic series from the 90s. You'd be crying that Sonic deserved the same recognition, and I would agree with you. Luckily we live in a world where Sonic is good, and not your mentally ill fantasy.
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>>541270995
fans did riot over this
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>>541271934
>mp4
HUH?????????
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>>541270995
Everyone would call it peak and aura.
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>>541271581
...so do you think GUN had their ways with her when they closed the Ark?
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>>541272215
They finally added mp4 support a few months ago
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>>541264420
Iizuka is right.
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>>541272324
There's a high probability.
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SonAmy is Dying and it Shouldn't.
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>>541272978
I hope she got spanked.
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>>541264780
This is fanart but I kinda agree in that people (and Sega) are more interested in the series generating dumb pillow talk than having actual consistency. In CW Sage even gets to be wholesome schoolyard bestie dialogue with Cream. How is Bowser Jr more interesting than this
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Spoiler: it exploded in his face.
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For me it is worldbuildng. there is still so much the characters don't know, things to discover, whether old civilizations, artifacts, cults, religion,planets or other dimensional beings. And they live in a post scarcity society so they have time to explore all that
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What are some good AI video generators? Been trying one and it's sorta okay, although there's too much limitations and limited currency.
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For me it's Duofag's Shadally and Silvouge
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>>541265872
You're an idiot. You don't know where money comes from.
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>>541273602
Silvouge is an interesting idea
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>>541273602
that's incest
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>>541273645
Nintendo had years of advantage, a stronger marketing team, and other highly profitable series besides Mario. Like the most profitable franchise in the world, even though most of its games are shit. Sonic can't win against a Mario product, even an awful one, no matter how good Sonic games get, because Nintendo simply has more resources and more brand loyalty.
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>>541263693
I see.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5XL9dArqyo
Chaotix has some nice tunes.

>>541272978
Darn brat, correction needed.
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>>541273920
Netflix raped Blockbuster and the latter had a headstart. What you're saying is bullshit and you're retarded.
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>>541264780
Return to Tumblr to roleplay as Trudy.
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>>541274202
That is a very different situation and you know it. The technology changed. The headstart is also not the only factor. CrossWorlds just can't win, even against the worst Mario Kart.
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Sonic should be a lighthearted series that knows when to get serious.
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Gattaca (1997) looks like a good Sonic story inspiration
>transcending genetics for dreams
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Reminder that
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>>541274440
Good idea but that film also has an amazing YouTube content creator that should work on Sonic.
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>>541273219
Pollo.ai
Pixverse.
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Undertale will overtake Sonic eventually
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>>541274331
It's not just technology changes, some fundamental appeal that competitors lack is what wins over a market and that can come from literally anyone at literally any time, regardless of head starts, money, or anything else..
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>>541274801
And I already said what it is in the case of Mario.
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Kit in Battle artstyle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6tEMkDWQoY
Sonic Battle was a nice game. I like how each character helped developed and taught Emerl their different life and fighting styles. The combat was a little odd to get used to but I had fun. Getting everything was a chore though (especially because Chaos just shows right before the Final Boss).
Decent music that's sadly hindered by the GBA but not too grating.
I felt sad for Emerl at the end... :(
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I remember this person was really mad about the IDW plot of the Eggperial City, seemingly just calling "stupid stupid stupid" while raging like a monkey.
I mean, Eggman made a bunch of Phantom Ruby copies and Tails made a fake emerald. But appearently those fake emeralds powering a city is too much? Same guy who vehemently defends the games and Forces, mind you.
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>>541265410
why did Sage cry
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>>541274965
This artwork is bad. It completely misunderstands Kit, as he is a waterbender with his backpack. Without it, he is defenseless.
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>>541274897
And you still don't get that what "it is" doesn't matter, it's what "it will be" that counts.
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>>541274974
Sounds like a jp faggot
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>>541274983
Jealousy. She was jealous of the strong bonds of love Sonic have with his friends, and its something she really wanted too.
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>>541274965
I should play Battle more, but training Emerl was annoying

>>541275090
I can see a bit of yellow on his right shoulder, I think he is supposed to have the backpack, we just can't see it from that perspective
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Night everyone.
>>541275090
It was the only one I found
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>>541275175
Nah. The furball was a "games only" purist who seemingly likes Sonic Underground and thinks Infinite is cool.
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>>541275292
Good night
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>>541275335
underground is in-character
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>>541275292
>>541275258
Oh, you're right, he has his backpack. My apologies anon. It could be better then.
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>>541275132
Right, I don't get what you're saying, it reads like nonsense. I described the way things are and have been for decades.
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>>541275593
I adore the coloring of Fleetway.
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>>541274983
Because Ian Flynn writes crying little girls for depth.
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>>541274974
It was an extremely stupid plot though.
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>>541274974
Oh good so we can ignore it.
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>>541275521
Like I said, you're retarded. It doesn't matter how things have been, you saying things can never change is just stupid, you need to stop speaking.
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>>541275680
Why? Eggman has been established with Forces he can create replicas of the emeralds, and is thematic with him destroying the enviorement. It sounds like a Eggman plan.
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>>541275335
>likes Sonic Underground
Oh fuck no. Fuck that.
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>>541274735
Any that aren't fucking horrifying?
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>>541273156
>How is Bowser Jr. more interesting than this
He's consistently an independent gremlin, which lets him be distinctive in a low-impact way. Also he's been around way longer, and there's never been a competing hero brat to have trashy platonic slash fics with.
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>>541275795
>you saying things can never change
You could have simply said that from the beginning. Things can change, but they're not changing. Nintendo is too strong, it would have to be gradual, Nintendo would need several years, maybe decades, of bad PR. But in the present, CrossWorlds isn't succeeding no matter how good it is or how bad Mario Kart World is.
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>>541275673
Done with paper and pens back in the day.
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>>541274974
Randomfox?
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>>541276023
It's not important who said it. I was just confused by what exactly made him so mad about that plot point.
I'm not even talking how the Eggperial arc was written, dislike that if you want, but what was so baffling about Eggman creating fake emeralds to power his city, at the expense of the ground in the area?
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>>541274735
I'll try those ones out.
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>>541276007
Why are you hyperfixated on Crossworlds when it isn't even mentioned in the original post??
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>>541269326
That's more of a Japanese thing. He's stoic, that isn't weird over there, but we don't really do it if there's not some outstanding antisocial reason for it.
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>>541276336
Because it's something current that actually exists, and it's the same as any other Mario vs Sonic situation since the mid 90s. I said the real reasons why Sonic can't beat Mario, unlike that post.
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I honestly don't care about Mario and Sonic comparisons.
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IDW?
OOC, disrespects and doesn't understand the characers drom DA GAMZE (Sonic games are perfect)

Underground?
Intrinsically understands Sonic on a level beyond comprehension.
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>>541276279
Also since I'm posting these, the AI seems to struggle a lot with Rouge.
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He is popular with some kids. He is skibiddi sigma, chat.
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>>541276694
I don't care so much about the comparison, but I would like Sonic to be a huge success, and Nintendo can easily put out garbage that gets in the way of that
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>>541276535
Yeah no, it's still bullshit. Crossworlds vs World Tour is one generation, and their performances don't tie into this idea that Sonic can't outpace Mario because of Nintendo getting a head start, it's nonsense.
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Sex with Sonia!
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>>541276958
Why do you keep reducing what I said to "headstart"? Nintendo is simply stronger, even when they release awful games.
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Sonic only does well in one region while Mario does well in all that’s what kills him.
It was just confirmed today that Nintendo is now the market leader in UK and Sonic skipping Switch 2 probably was noticed.
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>>541276975
why do you want Sonic globalized anyway
why is it so shameful to be niche
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>>541277101
Sonic is globalized
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>>541276279
post more of amy
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>>541277101
Because he is supposed to be the mascot of a company, not a niche cartoon character like, let's pretend you're thinking of Klonoa.
And I'm sure the Pacman company is mad Klonoa wasn't more popular.
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>>541277083
It's insane how all of this is to blame for Sega full-on pandering to westerns in the 2010s and not giving a shit about their Japanese audience until it was too late. Sonic quite literally needs to do actual crossover with Mario or Kirby if Sega wants to revive interest in Japan.
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>>541277342
>The 2010s are to blame for Sonic being niche in Japan.
Sonic has always been niche in Japan, that hasn't changed at all with the 2010s.
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>>541277342
Well there was the famous story about how Japan didn’t know who Sonic was when they saw Sonic Team on Nights games.
Kirby was pitched in the Wii version of Allstars and Wii U version of Transformed but Nintendo said no
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>>541277408
Before the 2010s they tried to appeal to the Japanese audience as well.
Now that the 2010s are over, they're trying to appeal to the Japanese audience again.
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>>541277184
Unfortunately that was the only Amy related thing I made. The rest of the free trial credits were spent on Rouge and Cream.
I can tell you which app you can use to make your own Amy videos if that's alright.
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>>541277518
And it will still not work, Sonic will still be niche. The movies weren't succesful there, and the new games were coldly received despite Frontiers interest.
I will agree with you that I like they are still trying to appeal to Japan, though. Pandering only to the west has given us some bad products in the past besides Sonic.
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>>541277342
Not pandering to japan is logically a good idea. Their declining demographics make it a bad market to pander to. The issue is that sonic is really popular in north/south america but not that popular in europe or china, which are the real killers in where you get sales from.
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>>541277775
That logically good idea gave us a decade of garbage
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>>541276275
Most jp purists are dumb as shit who rely on chatGPT or have a really shitty understanding of japanese, which is a shame because jp sonic has some neat writing/translation differences.

But you see, IDW is le evil because uhhh, eggman can't make a hecking fake emerald. Just ignore what tails did in SA2 lol!
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>>541277775
Actually Japans market is growing, it’s just PC and PlayStation that are declining in Japan.
Last gen was the largest generation ever in terms of hardware and software sales.
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>>541273093
I know it sounds like a headcanon, but I could definitely see Silver enjoying shit like museums and other activities when he’s in the past.

Hand him a Four Loko and send him to Times Square and he’ll have an aneurism.
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Wait the Anti Japan people are just IDW fans mad they aren’t welcome in the fanbase or considered a major part of the franchise?
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>>541277526
so you only have a limited times to do it? that's a shame. I would have loved to see more stuff like this with amy and cream without the hussle of doing it myself, to just get 3 mp4s out of them anyway
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>>541277060
It literally does not matter, I've said already giants have fallen in the past and they'll fall again.
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idwfags learning that not being archie isnt the same as being good
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Imagine if Sonic started pandering to the chinese a bit.
>2edgy4u comes back
>human x mobian comes back
>eggman hitler comes back, 1,000,000,000 humans and 3,000,000,000 mobians dead per arc
>sex appeal and ridiculous poetics
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>>541277101
That honestly depends on the intentions of his creators. IF they want him to be niche that's fine, but if they want him to be globalized and he ends up being niche by mistake, that's not fine. It means they failed to accomplish what they set out to do.
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>>541278220
>chinese sonic brutally beating the egg bosses to a bloody pulp and destroying entire cities while battling eggman
Welcome back, fleetway sonic.
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>>541278092
Unfortunately, yeah. Although I assume it's possible to just abuse the free trials to continue making these videos.
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Smart move I would be to completely decanonize IDW entirely, and anyone they want to keep from it they should reintroduce as if it’s brand new.
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>>541278220
This so much this
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>>541277910
No it didn't retared. It literally saved Sonic.
>Sonic Colors
>Sonic Generations
>Sonic All Starts Racing
>Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed
>Sonic Mania
Sonic Boom, Sonic Forces, and Sonic Lost Worlds being blips doesn't change the fact that the tone and direction were consolidated into a general idea which made the brand stronger than the 00s, during which we got
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Heroes
>Shadow the Hedgehog
>Sonic 06
>Sonic and the Secret Rings
>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic and the Black Knight
Which is the reason the 00s are dubbed the identity crisis era. 00s were a decade of garbage. 10s were a decade of strained recovery from the aforementioned garbage.
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>>541273197
That reminds me of how little the Sonic series has explored other planets beyond Colors, CD and technically Rush Adventure. Kirby does it all the time, and Mario literally has two whole games all about exploring the universe, there's no excuse for Sonic to stick to Earth and a few man-made surroundings
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People really have to twist themselves into a pretzel pretending that sonic colors was bad.
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>>541273197
They can't really do that when the fandom insists Sonic lives on Earth and should only go to realistic locales.
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>>541278441
Keep sheep tits. Pulp the rest.
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>>541278560
Well Kirby is technically “Kirby of the Stars”
At least when Sakurai is involved
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>>541278559
>he actually believes the shitty friends/muh edgy rethoric
Boy I have the game for you
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Shadow ships SonAmy
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>>541278175
You seem to think I disagree with that?
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Things IDW adds to sonic
>Characterization debates
>The diamond cutters
>LGBT fans
>FAns who want more "vulnerable" characters
>Fans who think the games are too macho and serious
>Fans who think Silver should be cute
>Fans who think Shadow should act how he did in Archie
>Fans who think Sonic has never killed anyone
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>>541278925
That's okay, I've got one already.
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>>541277994
>silver having gay panic attack
OOC. Kill yourself stupid niggger
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>>541273197
>try to make new locations
>retards scream about muh OCs MUH OCS MUH OCS
>can only make worldbuilding using Official (tm) Game Sonic Characters (and not from THOSE games like lost world, black knight, colors, blah blah blah)
>worldbuilding ends up like shit

Meanwhile there are 136 named characters in lord of the rings, lol
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>>541278559
And now that they have "recovered from the 2000s" they've released a new game with a dark and serious tone, started focusing on the lore again, brought back Mephiles and Black Doom, made a new Shadow game, and made a movie filled with SA2 and Shadow 2005 references while fans fantasize of a Heroes remake and celebrate that they can play P-06 and Unleashed Recompiled.
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>>541279041
He's literally just making them geek out over him, not shipping them.
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>>541278175
Corporations are ouroboros-entities. They eat themselves.
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>>541279073
>seething about LGBT still
What's the matter trumpoid? I thought you were winning?

Starting to get a little nervous that glorious china is going to win no matter how much you tear apart your own countrymen?
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>>541279058
Let me spell it out for you then: Nintendo will fall, Sega will rise.
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>>541279310
>Shadow is Sonic and Amy's secret admirer
I see you, Shadow, you're not slick
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>>541279408
Alright, I want to believe you. When is that going to happen? Will I get to see it?
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>>541279392
I don't think you understand. I hate the Sonic fandom and I want them to be consumed by all of the above.
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Would Surge be mad that Eggman is racing with Sonic and friends?
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>>541279408
Unironically truth nuke that many people aren't ready for. But you can see the writing on the wall and it's very apparent that Nintendo has lost the talent that made them good.

They're the disney of the modern age. Once a monolith, now slowly the cracks are starting to form. People will disagree and screech at you like a banshee for believing this right now, but it will happen.
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With Microsoft hitting Sega numbers will they drop out?
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Nintendo and the like inflated so far
SEGA kept lean and hidden in the background
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>>541279307
NOW they know what they're doing, back then they were just trying shit cause they were in shambles since they went bankrupt. The 00s were still garbage, paying homage to them doesn't change that fact.
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>>541279557
>But you can see the writing on the wall and it's very apparent that Nintendo has lost the talent that made them good.
I agree with this, but that's been the case since they revealed the Switch. And for Pokémon, it's been worse for much longer. Yet they keep selling and they keep getting defended by their fanboys.
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>Atlus talked about their switch 2 strategy
I hope the rest of Sega wasn’t as retarded as them. They sounded like Sonic Team
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>>541279734
This is just cope, the 2000s are rightfully beloved, the 2010s are rightfully hated.
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There’s something crazy about the Sonic 06/Frontiers/Boom general calling any other company washed up and lacking talent.
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>>541279472
It won't be quick. When corporations get this big, you see them fall slowly but surely. A number of bad moves by Nintendo followed by an influx of new passionate talent in SEGA will signal the turning point. Will YOU get to see it? As long as you're not like 40 years old.
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I like Sonic Forces :(
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Kishimoto is holding us back
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>>541279919
Well, we're in the present, so for now Nintendo will continue to shit out worthless trash like Tears of the Kingdom or Pokémon Scarlet and Violet while Sonic struggles no matter how good his games are.
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>>541279939
Same
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>>541279878
You are a neophyte. The 00s were hated, that's why the 10s were they way they were in the first place. The 00s are not beloved, they are missed.
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>>541279939
It's too short and the character creator feels like a joke rather than a serious commitment. I want a real character creator with all sorts of customization options.

It was also a mistake to bring back sonic so fast or have santiago come in, diminishing having sonic captured. Sonic should have only been playable in the final arc/as super sonic.
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>>541280067
Sonic games haven’t been good lately so it doesn’t matter
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>>541280067
IF Sonic can come up with some genuinely great ideas, the series won't struggle.
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Aaron Webber is the person who told Iizuka that americans don't like vocal tracks
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Isn’t Generations still the last critically acclaimed mainline game?
I consider Shadow Gens a side spin off like a Bowsers Fury or like the Bonus P3R story.
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>>541280103
>were
Correct. Things have changed.

>The 00s are not beloved, they are missed.
It's both. Unleashed was hated, now it's loved. Everyone is excited for P-06 and the Secret Rings remake. Excluding IDWfags, everyone loves the story and concept of Black Knight. SA2 is constantly praised, especially after the movie. Shadow 2005 has an unironic following. Marine is liked now. Everyone wanted that rumored official Heroes remake. People never even stopped asking for an SA3. You lost.
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>>541280280
Kellin Quinn probably singlehandedly saved the presence of vocal tracks in sonic games
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>>541280280
That nigga was gay for Arin Hanson
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>>541280391
Kinda Frontiers had such a mess of decent and bad songs
And now with Crush 40 gone things are gonna suck.
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>>541280207
CrossWorlds is struggling even though it's allegedly the much superior kart racer.

>>541280280
Proof?
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>>541280378
Try harder. Those fan projects will make Sega a grand total of 0$. You lost. The 2000's era resulted in the greatest duration of ridicule and sheer ignominy in the chronology of Sonic the Hedgehog and possibly any other franchise in modern day pop culture and you're mad. But it's 2025. Nothing you cling to in retrospect will change what happened in the 2000s. It's over and it's been over since before your neck and chin were an amazon rain forest. Cope.
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>>541280484
People are just mad about the state of World Tour. Crossworlds is genuinely just not that innovative or groundbreaking of a game. It's certainly not the voice of a generation in the way Mario Kart 8 was.
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>>541280598
I bought Unleashed and all of its DLC on Xbox recently. People were playing SA2 on Steam after the movie. The 2000s are making SEGA money as we speak.
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>>541273047
She definitely did.

You can't say she didn't deserve it.
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>>541280703
Was Mario Kart 8 innovative and groundbreaking? Or is it just a regular Mario Kart game that happened to be released on a popular console and got a bunch of low quality DLC tracks a few years later? As far as I know it is the latter, and I'm under the impression that Mario Kart autists prefer Mario Kart Wii's mechanics.
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Character fags who get mad every time they see an ooc portrayal of their favorite character are the best thing to come from the 2020s era fandom.
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>>541280869
8 released on a failed console and still did better than Sonic games on all systems.
8 on Wii U outsold Transformed on all systems combined
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>>541280948
Probably the Sonic franchise
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>>541280729
In 2025. The 2000s were still hated. You can't turn back time. Hang in there.
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>>541260865
Tale as old as time
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>>541281034
I didn't say they weren't hated. I said they aren't hated now. Things have changed. It's time you accept it.
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>>541280869
>Was Mario Kart 8 innovative and groundbreaking?
To an extent, yes, but the only thing is, Sonic is the Challenger here not the Champion. The rules I laid out for Sonic do not apply to Mario, the burden of proof is on Sonic, why would it be on Mario who is already established? Sonic is the one that has to prove itself, not Mario.
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>pre release buzz was through the roof
>vtubers marketing the game
>Miku, Persona, Yakuza, and Minecraft
>¥10000 prize just for playing the demo
>Fadel personally guaranteeing he saw at least 300 people in Japan who wanted to buy the game
>Frontiers and Shadow Gens were the best selling games in Japan the years they came out
>Crossworlds somehow only sold 5k
I think Famitsu is lying.
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>>541280948
Fuck you.
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>>541281106
Why would they be hated now? It's a bygone era. They're missed now. It happens. But it was still a decade of garbage and everyone knows it. Why do you think fans keep trying to "fix" everything that came out during that time lol? Cry about it.
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>>541280965
That's not an answer to my questions, that's just something that proves my point, as I said, Mario wins automatically regardless >>541265872

>>541281197
What did Mario Kart 8 do exactly to earn the title of "voice of a generation"?

>The rules I laid out for Sonic do not apply to Mario
Yeah, isn't that the point?
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>>541264783
The better question is, if Crossworlds is a failure, what's the wrong lesson Sega will take from this? The lesson they took from Superstars failing is "no one wants Classic Sonic games anymore".
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>>541281218
5k...what? Uh 5k countries...? 5k....palletts...?
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>>541281578
>what's the wrong lesson Sega will take from this?
"This is the Babylon Rogues' fault, we were right to let Riders die after Free Riders and we're vaulting them".
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Sonic doesn’t do good enough to even say it’s unfair.
Sonic just does bad because his games are generally pretty bad.
I don’t think any mainline game in around 15 years have gotten anything but yellows on Metacritic.
And all of those were fair reviews despite what people here say.
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>>541281578
They turn it into a Shadow series
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>>541281452
Surely you also think Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time are complete dogshit games because they get unofficial patches and mods to fix their problems, improve the graphics, improve the controls, fix the glitches, use modern cameras, make PC ports, etc. then. Why else would the fans of those games keep trying to "fix" them? Everyone knows they're dogshit, that's why! No, mods and unofficial patches are just things people do to games they like. Meanwhile no one is trying to improve Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric or even Sonic Lost World. Not because it's already so good, but because no one likes it nor cares about it whatsoever.
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>>541281578
>The lesson they took from Superstars failing is "no one wants Classic Sonic games anymore".
How is that a wrong lesson?
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>>541281218
For those curious the digital ratio on Nintendo is only around 15% so digital sales for Crossworlds is anywhere from 750-1k extra sales
PS5/4 are higher at around 25% but Crossworlds not charting on those systems at all means it’s probably irrelevantly small. I’d guess 1-3k max including digital.
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>>541280882
Sonicboomland is arguably one of the more dangerous universes despite the humor. So much weird shit happens on that island on a daily basis. Ofcourse Tails wants to keep apart of himself going, he could be dead tomorrow. That's why it's important for him that his girlfriend isn't an actiongirl like Amy or Sticks, she just needs to be a hypothetical pro at childrearing.
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>>541281050
Fi is so based even when it's a robot copy of her.
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>>541282056
What's the Spin Dash like?
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>>541281713
>unironically sucking off video game journalists
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>>541282175
Progression system is ass in the game, it'll take a few days before I can probably unlock it
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>>541282283
Were they wrong about Sonic Force, Frontiers, Boom, Colors Ultimate, Lost World, and Superstars?
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>>541282296
I didn't realize it works like that.
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>>541281496
>What did Mario Kart 8 do exactly to earn the title of "voice of a generation"?
It sold a metric fuck ton of copies.
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>>541280280
Why do gay liberal white guys always try to ruin everything?
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>>541282378
I don't know? Nor care? I don't read that trash bro. At most I happen to glance at it when people like you bring it up for whatever reason, and then forget it immediately. I can look at games and think about them on my own.
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>>541282298
Metrosexual-dow
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>>541281732
Is being deliberately obtuse your superpower? Is that how you cope with the fact that people remake old Nintendo games because they love them and people remake old SEGA games because of muh potential to not be busted up piles of flaming fecal matter?
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>>541282510
I don’t buy games without finding out if they’re good first, only retards do that.
It’s why we got shit like Frontiers and Superstars, people buy games just because of the name and don’t look into them first.
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>>541282456
I know? That's the point of the conversation. My point is that Mario Kart sells as well as it does because it's Mario Kart, not because of any actual merit of the game.
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>>541282743
Same can be said about Sonic.
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>>541282580
People make fan ports and remakes of games because they like them. This is true in both cases. No one is wasting time "fixing" something they don't like. The developer of P-06 decided to remake the game because he found it appealing. They are FAN works.
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In Japan Sonic only sells the few copies he does because of Mario and Korone.
In America he only sells because of the movies.
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>>541281713
Sonic has no help, literally. SEGA's ideas all get thrown at Sonic because they have no other creative outlet. And they won't take a risk on a new IP or even just bring back old ones. Meanwhile Nintendo has
>Zelda
>Pokemon
>Metroid
>Kirby
>DK
And so much more.
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>>541281050
Here I fixed that image for you.
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>>541282648
You don't need video game journalists to do that. You are capable of observing and thinking on your own.
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>>541282886
Sounds like a personal problem for them.
They’d rather make bad games than good games and they do it intentionally.
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>>541282951
I’m not spending $60 on a game just to find out it’s shit and footage of games from the company are worthless since Sega fakes most of it and hides 90% of their games.
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>>541282797
I get the feeling you jumped into this conversation without reading it.
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>>541282379
Yeah you got a get blue coins to buy powers and blue coins are both in stages and locked behind a tier system, gotta beat stages to get XP to unlock em and other stuff
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>>541283027
...Look at other footage then? Also, I've personally never felt a need or a desire to do this, but can't you refund games if you're not satisfied with your purchase?
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>listen to podcast of one of the judges of the game awards
>he says it’s a good thing that crush 40 music won’t be in Sonic anymore since th only good Sonic song is city escape and the rest is trash
>guy on the show asks if he’s heard any of the music in crossworld
>he just laughs and says he won’t let his kids play Sonic
Were fucked this year again too
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>>541282743
And as I said to you before, Sonic and Mario don't have the same rules. Sonic is the Challenger, Mario is the Champion. Sonic is the one who has to prove himself if the tides are to change. Not Mario. Mario doesn't have to prove shit. Release a game, slap his name on it, profit. They aren't the same. Mario Kart and its sequels do not have to innovate or change the game, they just have to exist until an alternative can threaten it somehow.
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>>541283156
Most major platforms don’t allow refunds, small platforms like Steam do but majority of people who play platformers don’t use PC
Watching footage of other YouTubers is the same as watching reviews and if you watch the whole game just being played you might as well skip it.
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>>541282948
Haha he IS a fucking cuck hahaha
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>>541283165
>game awards
Opinion discarded
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>>541282870
06 is trash and P-06 only gets attention because of the prospect of it not being trash. Doesn't matter if the developer is mentally ill or not, the hype surrounding the gam is because most people want to see the game not be trash, not because they want an amazing game to be better. Or let me guess, you're about to argue that 06 is actually a work of art and one of the greatest masterpieces to grace the eyes of mankind kek
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>>541283165
Sonic is an eternal laughing stock
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>>541283371
P-06 is just one example. You said the same thing about Unleashed Recompiled, and the only changes that does are minor patches. SA2 also only gets minor improvement patches. You're very disingenuous.
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>>541283420
Thanks to the [insert decade here], obviously.
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>Sonic sales in Japan get revealed to be a flop
>suddenly this place melts down into “actually the franchise is stronger than any other brand on the planet”
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>>541282870
>No one is wasting time "fixing" something they don't like. They are FAN works.
nta but oooooh, you're so naive. Talk to the average game hacker in private for more than a minute and it becones clear that most of them are barely-functional basement-dwellers with weird savior complexes who think they are the chosen one out to save a broken game. You do get all sorts of people doing this, sure, but I'm talking a good 2/3 at least are amateur dweebs who hate their games and think they need to be fixed. On the whole, they're miserable neets. Fuck 'em.
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>>541283528
You and all those "I can fix him!" cucks are obsessed with trying to turn back time. Do your best.
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shadria is a good ship
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>>541283698
Now let me offer this as a rebuttal
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>>541283820
Shadouge is also a good ship why not.
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>>541283889
:)
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>>541283165
I mean, you guy's parents let YOU play Sonic and you spend every day here proving that was a huge mistake.
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>>541283276
>Most major platforms don’t allow refunds, small platforms like Steam do but majority of people who play platformers don’t use PC
Alright then, sure. You could use Steam, unless you really don't want to for some reason, that's fair.

>Watching footage of other YouTubers is the same as watching reviews and if you watch the whole game just being played you might as well skip it.
You can look at gameplay and make up your own mind. You don't need some YouTuber to tell you what to think, you don't even need to listen to it. You also don't need to watch a full playthrough. Even then, I still don't understand your conclusion. I have watched full playthroughs of games before, and then decided to play them, and had a great time. Watching a game and playing it are far from the same experience, at most you're being spoiled on the story, but even then, a good game can make the story immersive through the gameplay.
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>>541283165
>game awards
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>wake up
>see OP
>see the thread
Wait, it's always the same dramas?
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>>541282948
I thought that's what it said the first time...
Also is that a tooth or a tuft of fur??
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>>541259378
SEX. WITH. TAILS.
I want to give him a womb tattoo
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Whatever happened to the guys threatening to shoot each other yesterday?
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>>541284352
Guess.
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>>541284209
He's later seen wearing it under his glove cuff, implying it's always there. Man I fucking loved the sonamy moments from X it was peak sonic x Amy characterization
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>>541284475
Not only that. It was peak Amy too.
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>>541284475
Ew
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>>541284401
You're not fucking serious.
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>>541283165
Proof? That's kinda mean spirited ngl
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>>541284513
Undoubtedly. People like to bitch about sonic X because they don't like the premise of sonic being from another world and his "reliance" on the kid and the animation but fuck did they get the characters right.
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>>541284337
who wanted to kill who?
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>>541284302
Too early, Tailsbro
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>>541284739
I didn't like Chris either. But muh audience surrogate. Whatever. But yeah the characters are great, I think they got everyone right off the top of my head, I think my fav depiction of everyone is Sonic Battle but Sonic X is probably #2.
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>>541284862
This pillar...
Thick!
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>>541284862
Go Amy go! Keep impressing him you'll get it in by the end of the day!
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>>541284862
is this implying that the movie owls are canon
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>>541285058
that is an aquatic ruins reference you ninny
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>>541285058
I thought the owls were a replacement for the Chao cause the Echidna wipe out the Chao to take the master emerald and those little fuckers don't exist in movie outside that weird mascot party store Cafe thing.
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>>541285202
That actually makes a lot of sense since the Owls are now the thing that destroy the Echidnas
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>>541280748
Good.

And she's cute, just my type, so she deserves it by default. Blonde girls always need spankings.
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>>541285128
When I die and go to heaven, I want Tails by my side all the time
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Was anyone else but me hoping they'd make a movie covering the events of Sonic Adventure before the movie covering SA2?
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>>541285165
I don't know what Aquatic Ruins is, so it's a movie reference to me. Owls are from the Sonic movies!
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>>541281974
It would be comfy to be a cute mobian and hang out in one of those villages though
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They're awake
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I want him to be more about using his two Tails. I want him to be Sonic's sidekick in battle who just happens to be a super genius. I want Tagalong games to be the norm for the story. I want my original perception of Tails to be true. I want Tails to actually be Sonic's understudy as they outright say he is. I want Tails to be more about his Tails than his ingenuity. I want the pun of Tails' canon name Miles Prower to have some goddamn thing to do with his character. I want my original understanding and perception of Tails character to be true, and I want his character to be cohesive and thematically consistent.
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>>541283165
Sonic will never be respected until the franchise itself gains self-respect.
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>>541285362
Ignore them and watch them desperately try to get people's attention and jerk each other off. Talk about sonic
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>>541285290
Sex with Tails is heaven on earth
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>>541285290
When i die hopefully there's fucking nothing on the other side so i get to sleep forever.
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>>541284862
>never got a good look at 'em up close
Does this not count as a good look? He was very close to them if he defeated the boss
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>>541284720
It’s Jeff Gerstmann. The guy who famously gave Twilight Princess the 8.8, the fist person to give any game a 10/10 in a major publication, the guy who decided to end Sonic reviews fo his company because of how bad Unleashed was, and the guy who said he didn’t want to expose his kids to Sonic since it’s full of sickos.
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>>541285478
CUTE
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>>541285353
>I don't know what Aquatic Ruins is
My disappointment is inconceivable.
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>>541285479
He was focusing on defeating the eggman. Hard to appreciate art when you're jumping arrows and smashing Eggmans little cradle to pieces.
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>>541284862
WHERE. ARE. THE .HUMANS?
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>>541285309
Why would they do that?
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>>541285362
time for your daily panic attack.
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>>541285309
I was hoping they'd make movies covering the games, but they don't seem interested in that whatsoever.

>>541285558
Fair.
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>>541285564
Running a train on Sally, Rouge, Wave, Whisper, and Lanolin.
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>>541285564
At home having sex with mobians.
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>>541285458
It cannot because half the fandom insists it doesn't need self-respect. Just read this thread.
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>>541285551
I don't want to play the classic games because they look old. I came into Sonic from the movies when I was a teenager
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>>541285643
>>541285653
Truly the most canon reason to not see humans is they're all engaged in nonstop mobian sex
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>>541285564
fantasy world.
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>>541285675
Cool
What games have you played?
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>>541285487
Okay link to the video please? Sonic is more respected today you can't just say that about Sonic I need proof
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>>541285487
Something about Gen X and older millenials make them psychotic whenever it comes to sonic. I never understood why.
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>>541285802
Adventure 1, 2, Heroes, Forces, Frontiers, Battle. In that order.
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i want a blaze mommy
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>>541285589
The events of Sonic Adventure directly set up the reasons for SA2, namely:
Why the military decided to do a final solution lockup of the chaos emeralds they could find.
Why eggman is looking for a new weapon
Why tails has a jet instead of a biplane
The reason for the formation of/increased funding for GUN
Why GUN defaulted to arresting sonic immediately, despite knowing shadow was the true culprit (they wanted that unknown asset under lock and key)
The original inspiration for the artificial chaos on the ARK
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>>541285487
And there are people who unironically listens to this type of individual
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>>541285858
It's either because "Muh Nintendo!" or they're Westfags still hung up over SatAM not being canon.
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>>541284792
>Half human
>Entire body is human with a tail and extra ears
I never understood Sara
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my turn with kit
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>>541285901
Nice. I'm glad to see new people get into the games
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>>541262218
Imagine if your balls were deep inside you, as deep as ovaries
Imagine if someone now tries to kick you in your balls

Oh wow, you're fine!

>Do girls really do that?
No, girls go for the hair and try to scratch each other
Sally and Fiona are being written by men directing an action scene so fight like men (and are aiming for the stomach, which should be obvious)
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>>541285478
Really?? That's sound really boring and gay, wait don't tell me that you're one of those *gasp* Atheist..
>>541285465
You will never have sex with Tails
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>>541262218
The fight scenes between Sally and Fiona do not make sense and seem to just be there for the "ooh catfight" trope. Fiona has been shown to be able to fight with Sonic and Rouge. Even if she lost, that should make her too strong for Sally to even consider fighting, but instead the comic portrays them as an even match.
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>>541286050
That's not a male/female thing, it's a cultural thing. In america and the UK they go for the hair.
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>>541284337
Eggman is so fucking dead...
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>>541286116
>wait don't tell me that you're one of those *gasp* Atheist..
I stopped being concerned about what lies on the other side from quite a ehile now. I just assume that if i don't remember shit before i was born, then it's the same after.
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I think Sonic is the wind
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...i'll have (You)
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>>541286338
sonic is the fart
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>>541286272
what the fuck is your understanding of anatomy?
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>>541285729
Innocent cute things are meant to be defiled
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>>541286412
I'll have a (You) too!
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>>541286569
And you wonder why nobody allows you near kids?
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>>541286116
I am not Sonic or Rosemary so it’s understandable why I can’t have sex with Tails
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>>541286667
You should’ve had sex with people your age when you were younger. I can speak from experience that the progressiveness tightness from 12 to 16 to 20 is looser and looser
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>>541284792
Is that a pattern or a hole on top of her tits?
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There is fucking nothing down there.
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>>541266172
Man I wish all sonic boom girls besides sticks could move out to the main universe.
The rabbit white girl too.
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>>541286412
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>>541286806
It's covered with her fur, dumbass.
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>>541286731
>the joke is pedophilia
>"acktually i was le serious!"
Ah ah very funny faggot i laugh so out and loud!
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>>541286306
source?
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>>541286962
can you prove it?
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>>541284862
I will always laugh about this place saying more than two speech ballons is a word salad, makes me wonder if some anons here would be afraid to read an actual book.
Imagine whay could they say about Stephen King, an actual word salad dude.
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>>541286412
>>541286574
Found this (You) in the pantry. (You)'ll have to split it.
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>>541287136
some random image on grabber zone
>>541287164
thank you amy
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>>541287145
A lot of really popular books are the writer being very clever with prose to hide their attempt at rambling.
I think IDW gets overblamed for this but the characters do talk more than in the games. SA2 is treated as the gold standard for Sonic stories and you'll notice that dialogue is very short in SA2. I figure that makes it hard for people to imagine these characters talking so much.

Of course it goes without tsaying that it's because SA2 is a videogame. Everyone in the games got chattier over time.
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>>541286825
Idk what you’re on about
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>>541287142
Unfortunately not, as she is a drawing.
This is not for a lack of desire to attempt to do so on my part, mind you.
That being said, it is more logical to assume she *does* have genitals that are covered by fur rather than assuming she is some completely asexual being that happens to also have a noticeable pair of boobs.
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>>541287145
I don't read pedoking. Last thing I read that wasn't a sonic comic was war and peace
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You'll die alone.
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>>541287145
No one who comes from this place reads an actual books.
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>>541287164
Thanks, babe.
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>>541287390
And in a world where people can spin their body organs to fly away, i can safely assume they don't have genitals and it would make more sense.
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>>541287391
>war and peace
Nta, bitch if you're gonna lie, at least make it credible.
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>>541287513
My face belongs between her buttcheeks.
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>>541287145
It isn't even the proper use of word salad. Word salad isn't another term for TL;DR.

Word salad is when someone schizophrenically tosses a bunch of words or sentences together without assembling them into proper grammar or meaningful arrangement.

This is best exemplified with schizophrenia rides, as they are called.
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Sonic not protecting Eggman from Surge would have been a pretty shocking thing. Imagine IDW Eggman just dying in issue 50 because wind
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>>541287235
Darn, I like these comics with exagerated faces.
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>>541271913
>The difference is that in the real world the Sonic series is still active and successful. In your fantasy world no one would actually take Sonic seriously. It would just be considered a shitty 90s game that's only remembered by nostalgiafags while everyone else either ignores it or plays along to not offend you, but can't offer any legitimate praise or criticism because they have no interest in playing it. The only game that would be relevant would be Sonic 1, because that's the one the nostalgiafags would remember. Luckily we don't live in that world, we live in a world where the Sonic series is a huge success, it was able to evolve and stay fresh, it keeps getting new fans, and we can all enjoy great amazing like SA2 and Unleashed, or even more direct evolutions of the classics like the Advance trilogy, while still understanding and appreciating the old, limited games, thanks to the newer ones keeping them relevant. Your "perfect" world is shit and if you lived in it you'd be crying every day that the series didn't get to have both 3D and 2D games like other iconic series from the 90s. You'd be crying that Sonic deserved the same recognition, and I would agree with you. Luckily we live in a world where Sonic is good, and not your mentally ill fantasy.
Sa2 and Unleashed still aren't fully functional games, and I'm not even the original anon you were arguing with way before with this "Game World" shit. Modern Sonic was still a laughing stock for multiple decades and is still reviewed low. You having to bring up a strawman to be disingenuous with means you already lost the argument.
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>>541284862
written by Daniel Barnes (Scrapnik Island guy)
art mainly by Yardley, with Mauro, Ryan Jampole, and Min Ho Kim doing flashbacks (it's a Rashomon type story)
colors by Reggie Graham
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>>541287513
She REALLY needs to be railed by a human male.
Good thing someone's already made that happen.
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>>541287585
Swear to God. I got really into reading old fiction like war of the worlds and Frankenstein and 40k leagues under the sea and it put me on to reading less fantastical time period shit and Leo Tolstoys name came up as a notable author so I just picked his most popular book and ran with it.
I didn't get it desu but it was neat. Long too. Long ass book.
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>>541287764
I liked scrapnik island
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We chew on writing discussions a lot, and people like to baitpost about how the movies have better reviews than the games, but honestly I think the movies might be better off than the games story wise.
I have never seen a single person get into the 2000s games as an adult. It's always people who grew up with it. Also that marvel style of humor we all hate is done for a reason. People actually enjoy it. Unfortunately it's also a useful signal to the audience that "we know this is a silly story" .
WE hate that but it puts the more serious parts of the story out of scrutiny.

People probably wouldn't get so hung up on Sonic 06's plot holes if the story wasn't 100% earnest.
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>>541287883
Based.
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>>541287706
Words evolve. Word salad evolves
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>>541287998
Sonic should be a silly series man. That's why overly evil kills people Eggman sucks because next week he's going to be on a podcast with sonic talking about anime or some shit.
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>why are you a sonic fan?
>>my parents never gave me responsibilities and always belittled me
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>>541288101
Why is there a small subset of classicfags who insist on trying to retrofit Shadow? I’m not talking about the ones who hate him obviously. I mean guys like fucking Balena Productions who was gonna make a whole Classic Sonic show but it had a Classic Shadow. What’s the deal?
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>>541288064
Eggman killing people is fine. Eggman in the games wants to kill people and isn't some misunderstood genius. He is evil, he wants to be evil. He calls himself evil.
At the same time, this is just not the franchise to try adding stories about the weight of eggman's crimes. You need to introduce new villains like Doom or Gerald for that. Thanks to characters like Whisper we have to contend with the fact that Eggman is a murderer who caused real trauma to one of Sonic's friends and the comic will never have a decent payoff for this because Eggman is untouchable.
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>>541288064
I mean, if you want silly, there's Sonic Boom.
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>racist nigger writes once for sonic
>he stop writing anything else besides tranny comics
How does barnes works?
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>>541288179
He can be wounded and defeated, just not killed. He can have patsies killed.
Try killing sage and see if he's not hurt.
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>>541287998
I agree.
And this is also, in my opinion, why Penders never would have worked out in the long run, even without the split.
He wrote the story too seriously and with unfittingly dark tones. Like, yeah, modern sonic comics can have dark tones and serious moments and do, but literally recreating the goddamn holocaust is kind of hard to frame in a lighthearted way.
The average person isn't going to want to go to a movie with cartoon animals and watch as 350000 echidnas are marched off to the egg grapes.
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>>541288272
Is anyone else upset that the racist black is the only IDW writer who doesn't have Archie nostalgia embedded in his writing
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>>541288326
>racist black
huh? Need source, he sounds too based for our world.
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>>541288179
Ok you can't have both though. You can't have Eggman blowing niggas brains out in front of their children one week and then have him playing tennis with sonic next week. It's also the joker problem of at a point a character gets too evil and it makes no sense for them to still be around. Everyone who can possibly fight should be trying to kill Eggman RIGHT NOW if he was really that bad. It should be nonstop war until hes dead not this "grrr I'll get you next time sonic" *flies off to plot* bullshit followed by like two months of rebuilding and peace and oops eggman is back another 500 thousand dead mobians it's time for sonic to DO IT TO IT :D
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>>541285934
Unironically Jeff is confused the largest name in journalism due to his global reach, and refusal to take bribes in the 2000s which was the only era that really happened
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>>541288326
Yes, which is why i want to nuke SoA and delocalize to nigeria.
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Why is Sonic 2's music so different from Sonic 1's? I can't be imagining it, right?
(I know jackshit about music)
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>>541288508
Bribes exist but only for YouTubers
That Sam Procrastinates took bribes from Sega for example.
>>541288539
Sonic 1 was composed in the style of a movie score 2 wasn’t.
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>>541288461
>You can't have Eggman blowing niggas brains out in front of their children one week and then have him playing tennis with sonic next week
Yes you can if you actually like the series as it is and don’t wanna poison it with westshit ideals
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>>541288387
He's a black twitter bitch type that used to dump a lot of shit on whites, he still like trannies because he's another cuck nerd.
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>>541288628
Trannylation: he makes me shit my pants because like all black people he’s a little disgruntled about white people
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>>541288603
>Sonic 1 was composed in the style of a movie score 2 wasn’t.
I'm sorry, but... how do you mean? What's the difference between a movie score and a video game score?
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>>541288461
I think the only way to deal with this sort of thing is never have death be taken seriously if a main character like Eggman is going around killing. Otherwise it makes our heroes look awful.
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>>541288625
Ok so they're just actors then. None substance really matters because they're just telling a narrative and once the credits roll they all become friends and wait for the next one?
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How many points is there on this Miku festival? Gotta schedule my time around that
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>>541288746
See you how once again decided to poison it with your headcanon instead of just accepting that the series doesn’t fit the conventions in your head that you need it to?
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>>541281974
Do we ever even see much of the world beyond island setting? Seems like civilization just barely hangs on the thread of a routine that the populace doesn't even really understand. If Sonic and friends weren't around, they'd probably devolve into tribes where females are used as currency.
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>>541288694
Yes, sir. As it turns out, others have different life experiences which cause them to value more or less highly things than you do. This is called being different people, and most everyone on Earth except you are doing it, right now!
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>>541288461
Eggman has always been straight up evil, it works because the games do not try to explore the damage he causes. IDW crossed that line so now we have Sonic Amy and Tails collaborating with the person who killed the entire family of one of their friends in a way that is treated completely seriously
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>>541288694
No, it's more because he's not a chud but another icky faggot.
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>>541288803
What is it you're trying to say actually? Cause I'm saying it's hard to rationalize Eggman having fun little kart races with sonic after murdering 87 villages in a row and your answer seems to be "don't think about it. Last week Eggman was a psychotic mass murderer and this week he's eggdad having fun times with sonic and this is an acceptable reality for this universe of colorful animals people"
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>>541286574
Pour vous.
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>>541288889
Different... people? Nonsense, I am the only person alive, the rest of you are just illusions created to entertain me.
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>>541289054
>dude I need to rationalize why th-
And that’s why you’re Ian Flynn pilled. It can’t just be “wow Sonic doesn’t have a problem racing with eggman or teaming up with him, he doesn’t give a shit”, no instead it’s “the only person who cares is actually me so now I need to make the story address this!!”
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Ian Flynn kind of reminds me of Takeshi Shudo ( but pokemon fans like shudo way more)
Shudo wanted the Pokemon Anime to wrap up and conclude, he introduces all of these dark elements and explained a lot of videogame quirks.
And big bad daddy nintendo would always shut down his darkest and craziest ideas before they got published and he would get upset and fans would get mad.

But on the flipside of that, he wanted Ash Ketchum to fail in his journey and just grow up and become a doctor with a wife or something instead of a Pokemon Master. That's not what Pokemon is about. He could go write a book or something, this franchise is not capable of telling the story he wanted to tell even if it would be the best story ever. That's how I feel about Ian. Especially involving a certain Tenrec.
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>>541289175
Ok what about everyone else. Sonic being a psychopath who doesn't give a shit who Eggman kills is one thing, but the WHOLE world?
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>>541288694
>like all black people he’s a little disgruntled about white people
Don't associate sparky or anyone else with twitterfags, the latter are mentally fucked.
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>>541288101
What's Shadow doing with the classic characters?
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>>541289284
Nobody else has the power to kill Eggman besides Shadow or Silver, who also don’t give a shit about doing so
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>>541289284
He's not a psychopath, the story legitimately just isn't intended to be chewed on.
When Ian said "go read adult material" he should have taken his own advice before trying to include an adult level deconstruction in a spinoff sonic comic
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>>541289397
YOUR SHITDOW IS A CLASSIC CHARACTER NOW, OK FAGGOT?
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>>541285943
So Dobson basically?
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>>541289509
there are two kinds of satamfags

>Dobson
>Pariah
No in between. They are all one of these two categories
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>>541289480
Okay, but he isn't mine though.
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>>541289420
Okay so to reiterate.
Eggman is super evil and kills people. Nobody cares enough about this to do anything.
Despite being super evil and killing people, he likes doing fun little side games with the main cast and going on podcasts with them.
Not only do the main cast NOT go out of their way to avoid the UNKILLABLE MASS MURDERER, the make jokes with him and pal around.
And all this is okay. It's fine like this. Here's an idea, how about Eggman just doesn't kill anyone? If his horrifically evil actions have no lasting real consequences for anyone, why even include them? If nobody gives a fuck if he kills people, then he doesn't need to kill people because it adds literally nothing to the story. Why can't the eternal premise just be "Eggman wants to stuff everyone into robots, sonic stops him, no one dies but it's very inconvenient so everyone is annoyed with Eggmans nonsense" and leave it at that if that's how they're always going to treat it.
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poopoodow
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>>541281218
>vtubers marketing the game
Who? I only saw Kiara playing it, not even Korone touched it.
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Did any of you talk about this? I like the idea of them establishing other ancient civilizations that arent just the echidnas, although i dont know what angle they could go for it without just rethreading sonic movie 2
>>541263985
Looks better with the red
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>>541287703
Scourge…
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Why should we care about japan, they dont like the games and its fine im sure that not everyone in croatia is a huge sonic fan and yet i dont see you making eternal "B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH CROATIA SALES" posts about it
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>>541289835
CREATION IS A SELF INDULGENT, LONELY GAME
YOU CANNOT SHINE ON THE STAGE WITHOUT A CRITIC TO EVALUATE YOU
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>>541289936
Cope
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>>541289968
Is this a bot
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>>541289820
>not even Korone touched it
Wait, seriously? I thought she'd be all over it already.
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>>541289936
I like japanese sonic stories more than western ones that have to abide by japanese mandates
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>>541290021
No, this is a Lorde.
See https://litter.catbox.moe/0xrobxo39ommvzub.mp4
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>>541289964
Welcome to the void, bunny boobs!
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>>541280484
>CrossWorlds is struggling even though it's allegedly the much superior kart racer.
Because the reality is that MKW isn't a bad game in the end and CrossWorlds isn't such a good game as people are pretending.
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>>541289992
Cope about what
>>541290076
Im not talking about that (and i dont care) im talking about incessant "BUT WHAT ABOU MUH HECKING NIPPON SALES!!!!!!" coming from someone living in the Middle of Nowhere, Nevada
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>>541290047
Probably because Sony was in charge of the marketing and Korone admitted she mistook her PS5 for an humidifier once.
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>>541289901
NO, IT'S ME ANON THE HUMAN, I GET TO SMELL THE VIXEN.

SCOURGE IS A CRYING BITCH
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Ok so imagine this. There's a new Character badguy. His name is Edd the Rapist. He rapes people. He even raped one of the main cast, tails or Amy or sonic even. Just rapes him right in the asshole. And then he goes on a rape spree and sonic is like "woah that's no good, you can't force people to have sex with you, people need to be free to fuck who they want like the wind" and he beats up Edd the Rapist, who has by now raped him, tails, Amy and countless nobodies. THEN after that Edd just kinda runs away crying about getting sonic back (possibly by raping him again or another close friend. Knuckles or something). THEN we see Edd come back but it's like for a cooking competition, and he keeps making rape based puns with the fast (some of whom he's raped) and they quip back about how they have their eyes on old sneaky cock, tails talks about some new ass protecting invention he wants on try out, Amy playfully curses that she'll make him pay for taking her virginity and they treat it like one big gag.
That would be fucking weird right? That's Eggman currently. Eggman is Edd the Rapist.
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>>541290194
Sonic only really had two games do well in Japan, Sonic 1 and SA1 and they didn't set the charts on fire either.
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JPcucks really want you to care very deeply about the sales of the fast rat game on a tiny island full of people that have never been fans of the fast rat game franchise for some reason
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>>541290239
Sex with noodles
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>>541289748
Westshitter
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>>541290297
BASED, fuck shipfags, fuck the characters yourself
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>>541290339
Ok, Ed.
Stop writing pornhorrorfics with double D in sonic.
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>>541289835
It’s literally a retcon in process and no one realizes it.
Sonic 2 disaster was eventually what became the echidnas but SA1 had it take place on mainland instead of Westside, so Westside’s disaster just never came up again until now, where they’re finally changing it
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guys guys guys sonic is the wind
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>>541290339
Westshitter
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>>541289901
You already have her scourge.
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What is Shadow?
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>>541290508
I dont necessarily see how another civilization existing after the echidnas and disappearinh would imply that but maybe im just too tired
>>541290371
Which is why im asking why do they keep posting about it when it doesnt matter since it never sold well over there
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>rapes your main cast
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>>541290649
>rape
Literally half the main cast will always consent as long as you're human.
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>>541290635
The black hedgehog, not part of the classic cast.
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>>541290339
AND THEN Ian Flynn writes andharcter, Samantha gerbil or something stupid, and she's like actually traumatized from being raped. The sonic cast hang out with her and do things and she's like "why are none of you treating this seriously he RAPES PEOPLE" and they all just kind of give her glassy eyed looks as they stare into the middle distance. And then she actually tries to kill Edd the Rapist and everyone's like "woah not cool dude, murder bad, you'll be as bad as Edd the Rapist" who by now has just raped vanilla, cream and cheese, and just tried to rape Samantha a SECOND time and it's like dude, are you fucking serious?
That's the diamond cutters.
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>>541290339
>>541290764
But what if sonic met the joker
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>>541290717
Stop I don't want to fuck a bird.
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>>541290881
But she wants to fuck you.
You just gonna tell her "no"?
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Makes me think was the owl civilization thing just insider information paramount gpt directly from the sonic team lore bible or did they just made it up
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>>541290764
And then Edd rapes a computer and it gives birth to his daughter, Phage. And she's like "I love my dad" and he's like "I love my daughter, I won't rape her" and everyone's like "hey maybe Edd the Rapist isn't such a bad guy haha chillidogs" and phage is like "it's good that Dad raped people, I shall help him rape more people. He will rape the world" and everyones like "oh yooouuuuu" instead of treating it like the horrendously horrific scenario that it is.
That's frontiers.
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>>541291045
Is SA2 where he rapes the moon?
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>>541290583
But that's clearly Shadow in that image.
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>>541291023
We know they made it up bro there’s no inside lore
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>>541291091
Yeah he rapes the moon in half. It's genuinely shocking anyones pelvis gets away intact when he's done with them.
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>>541291175
But what if there is it, what if iizuka keeps the sonic lore master book on sega headquarters all by himself not letting anyone see it
What if he wrote already what happens when sonic meets the joker
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>>541291045
Blaze and Silver are the only heroes in crossworld to actually threaten Sage back for remarks like that,too being weird as hell. Well them and Knuckles, figures the 3 who actually have some sense of responsibility everybody else treats her as a child, in fact isn't one of Sonic's lines in Frontiers "Sage, your dad's a mess but you turned out alright?" to himself if you leave him
idle?

But yeah, them trying to turn Eggman into Doofrerfreiz/Bowser fucking sucks what's the point of that when Zavok was supposed to be their answer to Bowser without a Bowser jr? Honestly what's even the point of Eggman Nega now since he was supposed to be even more sadistic and cruel than Eggman?
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Everyone involved with frontiers and every facet of the franchise including flynn says that sage will not melow out eggman but instead make him worse, but im sure the tard on /sthg/ is the one that knows what sonic team will do
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>this is ai sloppa. but doesnt matter. it's canon and was genned by a Japanese person
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>>541291501
S.oyjak is truly the best representation of the average media consumer.
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Jet, Eggman and Rouge seem interested in the Sol Emeralds
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>>541291045
Eventually people start to think "It's kind of fucked up that no one cares that Edd is running around raping people and old ladies and kids and shit it's kind of making me hate the cast for not treating this very serious thing seriously".
That's when people complain about sonic protecting Eggman from people trying to kill him.
So how do you fix this? You can have people take Edd more seriously in the story but that doesn't really work because they didn't up until this point and it would be kinda weird that they suddenly realize "oh wait rape is REALLY bad he needs to go". You can't have Edd suddenly pull back on the tape because then the Edd fans will complain about how he's being mischaracterized or how the series is loosing its edge waaagh I prefer it when the stories are more gritty and edgy, and you can't get rid of him now because he's a beloved cast member.
The answer is you can't do anything without a hard reboot. You can't unrape the cast. You can't take back their utter indifference to being raped. We're just sort of stuck in a world that doesn't really care about who gets raped and that is not very pleasant sounding world to live in.
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>>541291671
I haven’t got an interest in that form of glory. Put me in the air and my speed will lead.
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What is this guy talking about
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the "thing japan" argument doesnt work given the amount of jp purists who like scrapnik
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>>541291956
Sonic writers have no idea what they're doing with eggman
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Hello guys.
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>>541291729
This is eventually what killed super hero comics back in the day like the 60s nobody took that shit seriously, then one day Robin got his ass beat to death with a crowbar and died to shock readers and start making hero stories darker and it snowballed from there because finally the villains are actual threats but the villains are popular so the heroes can't kill them, the writers can't get rid of them for good by arresting them or even letting them get arrested so we enter this constant cynical pattern until an outsider to it be a past victim or someone who just despises this status quo that only works in the villain's favor and even has some smoke for the so called hero who constantly lets the villain get away with this

It's a total shit show and you know why it's like this? because people want it this way, doing it this way is profitable, doing it this way makes people money, doing it this way makes it memorable for years and years.

Such is the nature of humanity, we are a paradoxial species by nature or if you wanna be frank, we're natural born hypocrites and know it yet get angry whenever someone points that out.
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>>541291173
Get your eyes checked Amy.
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This guy is mentally ill, good night all of you that still sane
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Whisper being exactly like Tangle before Mimic betrayed her feels wrong
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>>541292286
It's severely lacking in uuuuuu
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I don’t want Sonic to switch to UE5.
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>>541292024
didnt read scrapnik and dont intend to
not a jpfag neither
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>>541292286
Whisper is a lot like what a lot of fans portray shadow as
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>>541292174
But does it need to be that way? If the serious subject matter isn't treated seriously, why include it? Dropping the Edd metaphor and going back to Eggman, what does it matter if he's a killer if they don't treat him like one? What is Eggmans goal? Rule the world and turn everything into robots or something right? Does he need to kill people for that? I get it, really, "he's evil, why wouldn't he kill people? At the very least why would he care if his actions got anyone killed?". He wouldn't, and I get that, but if the story isn't going to acknowledge all the dying in a way that matters, then it may as well not happen at all, then at least it would make sense for Eggman to be treated more like a nuisance than a fucking horrific tyrannical force of nature.
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>>541289835
>canonizing Boom Amy's amateur archeologist leanings.
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>>541292286
Whisper should eat mimic.
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>>541292286
It’s a rape analogy it’s about how women act before and after an assault
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>>541292562
In the end you just go in a circle of mald dude. “Well harrumph it pisses me off that the series doesn’t kowtow to my views and ideals of how they should handle Eggman! Grr!”
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anyone else think about how mimic's whole life in the comic he only terrorized OCs because the game characters all would have killed him
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>>541292286
Mimic is an evil bastard for no real reason he's just always been that way

Starline is an evil bastard for no real reason he's always been that way

Clutch is an evil bastard for no real reason he's always been that way

Rough and Tumble are dumb bastards with a taste for evil they've always been that way

Surge and Kit were kidnapped and brainwashed into being evil bastards but now Kit wants to keep being an evil bastard with empathy or sympathy

Surge seems to be a mess character wise, she starts out wanting to burn the world down "If I don't get a past, they don't get a future!" to caring about her past so much she's willing to listen to Clutch because he apparently knew who they were before Starline, yet as soon as Clutch is exposed along with Mimic they don't care anymore and Clutch doesn't even bring it up again when he's been off screen buck broken by Eggman to the point Rough and Tumble are bullying him, to contemplating how ignorant and weak the populace is and when bad shit happens not everybody can protect themselves and needs people like the reistence and Sonic's associates to help them to just loving the praise and adoration of the crowd she gets when she does good things to just wanting to do flashy things in front of people and get cheers for it

Why is Surge the most schizo written character in this comic, second to Tangle who started out dumb but not dumb enough to be selfish and insensitive to ignore other people's feelings to the point the readers start resenting her for it to the point the writers remove a story because they planned on making Tangle even more like this but didn't want readers to hate her.

Oh and I suppose there's also Lanolin all this build up to her doing something extremely stupid and chaotic inducing out of her resentment to Sonic and his companions as well as her personal desires to end Eggman's threat before it starts least something like the Metal Virus happen again
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>>541292996
Surge's writing makes no sense. The comic initially claims that Surge's hatred of Sonic is instinctive. Beyond her ability to reason. She has literally put this into words, that she has no choice. That she cannot rationalize herself out of it. She is aware of the fact that the desire to kill Sonic was forced on her and able to articulate that in words.

Despite this, she is able to construct plans that take months of her ime that involve pretending to be a hero so that she can have the opportunity to kill Sonic. If her desire to kill Sonic is so innate,how can she possibly do this? This is like telling your stomach to stop giving you the hungry sensation because you have a plan to get food later.
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>>541292749
"You're just angry that the writing sucks"
Correct. Shit writing in a series I care about is annoying. Care to offer a more substantial argument or are you just going to keep saying "you're made cause things aren't the way you personally want them". Do you have an opinion? Are you capable of an opinion or do you just mindlessly consume cum straight out of segas dick?
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>>541293248
You’re not angry it sucks. You’re angry it’s not what you want, and I’ll keep saying that so everyone understands the difference.
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>>541292350
Back then she was "aaaaaaaa" and then she turned into "uuuuuuu"
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>>541292615
I like the characters having more hobbies so im ok with that, make knuckles an actual treasure hunter too
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>the best Crossworlds player is trans
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>>541293194
It's because she's still in a tug of war, Surge is extremely popular with the fanbase so the writers aren't sure if they want to make her as evil as Scourge and thus and a completely irredemeable bad guy or in case Sega wants to adopt the character since she's owned by them and they may want to integrate her one day due to her popularity if they should just make her an anti hero akin to shadow that just doesn't like sonic

On top of that before all this Ian wanted surge to be a completely irredeemable piece of shit despite what happened to her where as Evan wants Surge to be an anti hero you could tell they were having this fight when Surge who gives no fucks about people suddenly starts wanting to care about them and going on an odd out of character psuedo philosophical rant about the nature of the common masses one moment and bitching up a thunderstorm because she can't get out from under Clutch's thumb the next even through the only thing he holds over her is information about her past, information that got dropped the moment Clutch got exposed

you see it again where despite betraying and trying to kill Sonic in front of everyone Tails, Amy and Blaze don't meet Surge and Kit with hostility or even antagonistic intentions nor are they met with that, they talk to each other like apprentices that happened to run into each other cept for Kit, he still fucking hates everybody especially Tails
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>>541293445
I'm angry it sucks. I WANT it to be good. There's no singular thing I want changed I've given multiple different examples on how they could go with eggman. They're not great, he's already too ruined at this point, I'm just lamenting how shit things have be allowed to get.
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>>541293619
I am trans??!???
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>>541293738
interesting
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Concise your points in less than 5 lines or else im not fucking reading it
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>>541292615
Greetings, Amy.
Hand over the artefacts. The Sol Empire claims them to be hoarded in our museums.
Consider it a history lesson. This is how empires in your world act, do they not?
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Eggman could dig his thumbs into Amy's eyes and splatter her head and two issues later Sonic would have an unlikely team up with him and nobody would give a fuck in universe. People say this is fine.
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>>541292996
>>541293194
Cause women aren't allowed to be "evil". They can only be "misunderstood" cause feminism. See "The List".

List of IDW recurring characters by alignment

>Good
Tangle (female)
Whisper (female)
Jewel (female)
Lanolin (female)
Belle (female)
Nite (Allegedly Gay male)
Don (Allegedly Gay male)
Surge (Female)

>Evil
Rough (Male)
Tumble (Male)
Dr. Starline (Male)
Mimic (Male)
Clutch (Male)
Kitsunami (Male)

This is how intersectional feminists are. All men are evil unless they are gay and/or trans. I'd add non-white but they'll throw black men under the bus just as quick as they do whites (See Shadow's treatment). Amazing how they decided on Surge getting a redemption but Kit is literally going to plan to murder innocents to feed Surge's hero worship nonsense.
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>>541294189
POV: What living on the internet does to a motherfucker
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>>541290649
That's the 1 D Ed not to 2 D one also called Double D.
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Amy in my bed rn
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I'm not the only one who thought Double D was a girl back then, am I? I thought it was odd she was getting beaten up in those fight clouds as brutally as the other two all the time but chalked it up do to her being more boyish than girly, it's legit why I thought it was odd the kankers went after him as well and oddly turned on during that one episode where one of them jumped one of the ed's while they were taking a shower and didn't know why
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>>541281974
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>>541294079
It is fine, faggot
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>>541294482
The page immediately after this has Sonic fuck her too, then Knuckles. These artists can't help themselves.
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I think one of the reasons people hate whisper and the diamond cutters is they feel too real. They're real people (animals) put in really horrific settings and are appropriately reacting to those settings. People are dying, lives are being ruined or uprooted, they're trying to help but theyre dealing with world ending super threats and any time (whisper) actually tries to correct the problem by killing Eggman the world endeavours to stop her. I'd cry too man how frustrating is this fucking world where you see lives being destroyed by ONE FUCKING GUY and no one cares. Your personal hero sonic goes out and has diner dates with him and rides his cool ass tech to help him get revenge on a significantly less overtly evil person. I'd go insane.
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>>541294409
Amy in my head rn
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Real!
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>>541292286
It's supposed to further hammer in that they're made for each other blah blah blah.
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>>541294297
Naw, son. That's what reading IDW Sonic does to a mutherfucker. Book was being ran by a male feminist.
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>>541294607
Virgin here, do people actually do that when having sex?
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>>541294897
No. Depends on the person, you might get some noise but a lot of people are really quiet during sex. Usually heavy breathing and groaning. Think of the noises people make getting a massage and you get the idea.
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>>541294540
Then Sticks the Badger. Then Amy Rose. Then Dr. Eggman. Then Shadow the Hedgehog. Then Metal Sonic. Then Vector the Crocodile. Then Comedy Chimp. Then Fastidious Beaver. Then Soar the Eagle. Then Lady Goat. Then Lady Walrus. Then Dave the Intern. Then Wild Cat. Then Staci (but not Perci). Then...
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>>541294897
I hate it when a chick talks during sex. It gets repetitive.
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>>541295057
ikr? You don't wanna think of anything but doing her. It's like bitch, you better be using that mouth of yours to deepthroat my cock.
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I have an idea
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>>541295259
go on...
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>>541295259
Flashfoward to plap plap sound effects, an outside shot of /sthg/ shaking and hearts coming out of it

I'm horny this morning I'm sorry
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>>541294584
No, I just think Whisper is too emotionally unstable to be this supposed tough mercenary who served as a "Guardian Angel" for the Resistance and saving their lives. In the comic, any adversity makes her break down crying.
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>>541295440
AAAAAANOOOOON!!!!!
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Sally is such a slutty whore. It's integral to who she is.
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>>541295440
You know it's strange to think about but people have probably had sex in every building ever at some point.
My ex was, appropriately, conceived in a dumpster, no joke.
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Can't stop thinking about Blaze
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I'm not winning anything bros, it's all tryhard in this event
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let's end the thread with a good ending
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>>541297284
>>541297284
>>541297284
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NEXT ACT
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>>541297320
>>541297320
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>>541297301
>>541297361
GOD DAMMIT
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>>541297265
CORRECT THAT BITCH



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