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>>541864902First for no progress. Let's have a funposting thread while he who shall not be named sleeps.
Valve caused the rise of low effort slop games by only promoting 400 games a year.valve was too lazy to manually examine new releases and filter out the low effort garbageand they were too scared to increase the upload fee to filter out thirdies and scammers from shitting up the storeso they just stopped promoting games based on review performance and shifted towards revenuenow the only games that do well organically on steam are streamerbait dopamine slop that get attention on social mediareal games are left in the dust to rot because they didn't have two year advertising periods before releasedevelopers are no longer incentivized to make good games purely for the intrinsic joy of creating good gamesthey are forced to focus on viral advertising strategies, otherwise their games will receive zero support, and the time and money cost won't be justifiable
whats jlmg
anyone who's not concerned with the commercial performance of their game should be ridiculed for the spoiled mooching nepo baby that they are.
>>541865049stop spamming this
>>541865061go make some souless cash grab slop then
>>541865057jesus loves mid games
>>541865057it's our sloganJUST LIKE MAKE GAME
>>541865209who is us
>valve should try to make less money>valve needs to create a socialist paradise so that translesiban flopdevs can afford rent
>>541865061I'm just concerned with making a good game. commercial performance will come from that anyway so I don't need to think about it
>>541865147I can't. you can't either. no one can except by accident.
>>541865256>>541865094Samefag
>>541865256Gabe should feature my game in the front page
>>541864628How do we fix the "entitled gamer" problem?
>>541865283*selfpost
>>541865256>valve should try to make less moneydoesn't valve make like infinite money already? a couple billion less wouldn't hurt them
>>541865237big powerful evil country
>>541865353make your game for post ironic hispter boomerlenials who will buy your game at $40 to stick it to the man(gamers)
>>541865418UHM... SWEETIE... DON'T YOU KNOW THAT GABEN DESPERATELY NEEDS HIS 30TH YACHT? SO HURRY UP AND MAKE THAT SLOPPA SO I CAN SKIM 30% OFF IT FOR DOING JACK SHIT!!
>>541865418that's 3 less yachts albeit. gabe needs those
>>541865563imagine being mad at the most pro consumer gaming company in history
>>541865353impossible. the platforms (Steam, App Store, Google Play) are doing to gaming what Tinder did to dating and what Amazon did to retail.the more efficient a market is, the more it will tilt toward a winner-take-all model. the only thing you can do is be the best or go home.I should have been an electrician or a plumber.
>>541865624we should be hating the consoomers. if you don't hate them, you're still in the consoomer mindset rather than creator mindset.
>>541865624>the most pro consumer gaming company in history
>>541865276>commercial performance will come from that anywayno it won't
>>541865624Lel
>>541865730What kind of shepherd hates his flock?
curious i see a clown emoji on a review of obscure software of all things and was wondering why (is it valid and im not seeing it) or is this retaliation from the dev? this new internet is confusing to me bc i am so old. i miss aol chat when trolls would just say kys while explaining in detail why they wished you dead. Simpler times and clearer communication. Now ppl talk in obscure emojis I dont get.
the only way out is throughflood steam with mass-marketed slop until valve is forced to make things betterthe worse thing that can happen to steam is for its reputation to be ruined by being known for nothing other than vapid slopevery developer herei urge you to slopmaxxspam it on social mediablow up your gameget richmake moneyand completely inundate steam with blatant trashthen they'll be forced to promote games based on user reviews, playtime, and achievement completion, instead of raw revenueotherwise the platform will be known for low quality slop, and people will stop using itthe only way out is through
>implementing instanced dungeons>have to completely rewrite movement batcher to accommodate players kicking each other out of their dungeons>completely breaks the respawn system, rewrite it>rewrite exposes flaw in the saucy unsafe parallel vec mutation that drives my entire engine
>>541865840I'll show you... just you wait!
>>541866005Many such cases.
>>541865049the reason steam gets slop flooded is the same reason all the social media sites that provide a revshare on admoney for content get slop flooded.... the second there is a guaranteed pathway for even $0.01 of profit, rational actors under capitalism will exploit that guaranteed profit path until it's completely mined.and the reason steam and the socmedia sites dont race to reverse course on that is for the exact same reason. a rising flood of slop lifts all yachts.
>>541865950
>>541865983>blow up your game>get rich>make moneyas if everybody's not already trying to do this but failing miserably because it's not so easy.
>>541865563>PROFIT IS LE BAD
>>541865950 this review claps your cooked bro better leave before chat ratios you bc you went skibidi sigma rizzless mode fr fr old man ahhhh
>>541865983>make slop and become rich>but do it ironically>get gaben so many yachts that he changes steam because he's sick of yachtsRetard
>>541866106gogem I love you, never stop criticizing valve.
>>541865950I give clown emojis to all bad reviews of my game, they snowball
>>541866296>>541866168very funny but i know youre almost as old as me so nice try. now answer the question.
>>541866253>corpo bootlickerGrim.
>>541866320if i become rich i won't care about such things retard, for each million gabe lets me keep he can buy one gorillion yachts>>541866402post game
>>541866372I figured it was the dev. The game is so obscure it has only 82 reviews. I didn't see anything wrong with that review so figured it was unrelated to the actual content.
>>541866372Based.
>>541866372I stalk users across the internet to clown on them for petty reasons. This is probably just that.
3I/Atlas gives me an idea for a roguelike that takes place in the End Times where interdimensional evil beings led by an intangible Satan-like force have openly subjugated Earth (lets say they're Archons led by the Demiurge, along with unleashing many other "low wavelength" evil creatures onto Earth. kind of like a dimensional merge). So "God" (Yahweh, not the one true God nor all powerful nor all knowing, but seeder of life on Earth regardless) returns to Earth in pure energy form ("Biblically Accurate Angel" form) like 3I/Atlas is right now. Returning to set things right on Earth and restore creation to his original ideal, but when he gets here, he sees humans have been devolving for 12,000+ years (the opposite of what science says btw) and decides we are contaminated evil creatures just like the Archons/etc and decides to wipe us out too. So we don't even have help from God in this game he hates us too.
>>541866668Didn't read. Start with Pong.
>>541866628how petty? i absolutely do not send threatening messages every year on certain reddit mod's birthdays, to remind them the world is a dangerous place and to be careful bc you never know if they will meet a weirdo stalker who never forgets them year after year. and I never did this just bc they locked my post for no reason to censor me.
>>541866668that's a premise. sounds like you'd rather write a book than make a game.
>>541866806this is a crime. a based crime
>>541866668extension: God sees humans are genetically ruined so decides to create a new Eden and walls it in so us humans cant get in and creates a new race of 10' tall genetically perfect humans in there and orders them to leave Eden and kill us all, these new perfect humans (including morally perfect) see us as demons to slaughter.
>>541866830Nobody's gonna read a book in 2026.
>>541866889i said I DONT DO THIS. i am innocent. i do not post pictures of their IRL face and real names in the message warning them to be careful to aboid weirdos who try to dox them and know their home address.
>>541866668>>541867059zero gameplay ideaslol
>>541866176the more people try it the better we all will become at iteventually the slop meta will be so figured out through raw number of games released that steam will be completely flooded with slopvalve will be forced to address this situationgive it time
evil always destroys itself
>>541867268That's my goal strat, AI gen sprite sheets, slap them into "premium" Unity templates, shit out a new title weekly, maybe even daily.
Been too busy today to do much (had a job interview... I don't want to go back ;_;) but this guy is now fully rigged. Will be doing his animations the rest of this week.
>>541867456Do it. (You won't do shit, nodev.)
>>541865049this is a good thing, any retard can get a bunch of third worlders to spam positive reviews on their game, revenue is fair
>>541867589Sorry anon, I've been working on this for awhile now, and I gave y'all plenty of heads up. Not making good games of course, I'm not delusional, just retarded.>>500758884>>500763102
>>541866668I'm gonna be honest whichu dawg that sounds dumb as hell
>>541867105here is the lead mod from r/gamedev for the past decade. DEI is no joke ffs straight on his company's website. All white employees btw.
Friendly reminder that flopdevs are the smelly manlet incel losers of the gamedev world.
>>541868001Except incels are correct. So what you're saying is, flopdevs are correct too?
>>541867874>Fri 01 Nov 2024>for awhile nowis right. Again, you won't do shit, nodev.
>>541867984>7 white men>1 asian named white woman>DEI is our highest priorityWhy do they do this? Theyre clearly lying and dont care about minorities but have a massive About Me that is 90% DEI literally the meme embodied. But 100% white and 90% men and the 1 white woman is their Marketing so not even a gamedev.
>>541868153Poor crab, it'll be okay little buddy. Enjoy your bucket :)
>>541867576if I could get job interviews, I'd give up on gamedev in a second. you don't know how lucky you are to even be employable.I'd rather have a $60k/year job than have my game earn a million dollars.
>>541868137Incels are correct about women preferring clean, tall, handsome, and high-status men.
>>541868213Don't get me wrong. I really do wish you would do something, but alas that will never happen. I'm unhappy that you're a lazy useless piece of shit wasting your life away posting on 4chins about your epic AI game idea instead of actually making your epic AI game idea.
>>541867576>NHKThought that was the anime.You gonna submit to DD?
>>541867984kek
>>541868294the core of the incel "philosophy" is that your fate is determined by your genetics, so you can do very little trying to improove.the success of my game is not determined by my genetics but by random chance and since I don't believe in luck, that means I just got to keep pushing and something's got to give.
>>541867576looks very good>properly rigged pistonsnice
>>541868447isnt this the mod that threatened anon like>oh it's you? you do realize we know who you are right?Ah the irony. He had no clue who anon was but we all know his full name and photo.
>>541868448There is a large component of your capabilities as a game developer that is determined by your genetics as well as your upbringing. Indie solo gamedev is one of the absolute hardest things you can be doing in life, and it is honestly beyond the capabilities of the majority of people, no matter how much time and effort y'all put in.
>>541868279what's forcing you to dev then? I don't see why anyone would put themselves through gamedev if they weren't passionate
>>541864902More action system refactor progressToday i finished>actions chain in graphs instead of being linear sequences>transition conditions for actions (such as player input)>action trigger system>players trigger actions via keybinds
>>541868394>epic AI game ideaYou flatter me, crabanon, I just call it the shit-machine.
>>541868279what if your only job opportunity was manual labor for minimum wagewarehouse work or constructionwould you still take these jobs over gambling on gamedev?
>>541864752>is a lolifag >mocks sister for being raped maybe fygoon has a point
>>541868447is this really what reddit mods look like? so like are 4channers hot by comparison?
>>541868715Nice but it would be nicer to attach a pic of the game.
https://youtu.be/euLOgUVTWy0a game where you have to convince an angry mob to not kill you
>>541868893nope
>>541868691because my only income since around COVID time was from games. I don't know how to do anything else and I can't get a job interview.
>>541868740I'll have to resort to that kind of work because my gamedev income is drying up and I'm already spending below minimum wage every month.
>>541867502No, it won't. It clearly has very low appeal and cannot succeed on any kind of algorithmic marketing. On top of that, it is clearly being developed by an incompetent dev. He's a slow learner and an even slower implementer. He's not holding his game up to a high standards in the places that it matter, and instead wastes time autisticly tinkering with shit that doesn't matter in order to continue LARPing as a gamedev.
>>541865049>developers are no longer incentivized to make good games purely for the intrinsic joy of creating good games>Because they want money nowSo they don't want to do it for the joy of it anymore.contradiction.
i woke up yesterday from a dream I was back in high-school and bad to goto the bathroom. there were 40 stalls and all were covered in multiple layers of shit everywhere. mens room of course.then I had to fight a demon. fun right? no. it was a baby kitten and the only way to kill the demon was to slowly saw its head off. I was ending evil by sawing the head off a tiny baby kitten.long story short I couldn't dev today. That fucked me up but the shit toilets were the worst part in some way bc the evil still lived.
>>541869230Least depraved /agdg/ poster
>>541869230>he thought it was a dreamcheck the local news
>>541868874Source? I'm out of the loop. Discord?
>>541869230also amidst the shit stained toilets flooding piss floors, were tons of those hyper testosterone fueled almost retarded 80 IQ bully types. Fear of them as predators while trying to find any stall.the best stalls were 2 that had 3 people's shit smeared all over the seat but the toilet bowls were clean. i refused to wipe them down to go so I held it in but all the rest were way worse so I regretted not cleaning one. then the sawing happened. afterwards I defeated the evil demon a d saved the day but could do nothing about the retardation and disgusting animalistic shittery of my high-school peers.
Why do indies need 7-8 years to make an hour long game?Do they count the 5 years they spent learning the gamedev skills as part of the development game, or did they work 1 hour per week every two weeks total?Because the indie hits are usually low res pixel art, or low poly shit or made in rpg maker, nothing that should take years of hard work.
>>541869159But Bokube has clearly been fun for some people, other than the developer. Isn't that an indication that he has been doing something right? A lot of aspiring game developers fail to make games that are fun, whether those games are small or large. The standard of whether a game is fun, 100% matters. And he has improved the user experience/UX, like recently with informing players about controls in UI selection. And he is doing iteration and having people test.I agree that his approach is not flawless, but it is not without merit either. Your post overall seems inaccurate and misleading.
>>541869230>>541869413i have no idea why but reading this and I am fucking dying laughing so hard im gonna wake my family up 4am
>>541869435doing it in your free time, 8 years of free time = 6 months of fulltime development
I-is that pixel... stretching... AND SQUASHING?!! AAAAAAAAH I'M GOING INSANE!!!
>>541869304dude im not depraved IT WAS JUST A DREAM I CANT CONTROL MY DREAMS
>>541869673You have some serious mental issues if you dream about sawing kitten heads off. You're probably an animal abuser or worse, brown.
>>541869230nice dream nortubel
>>541865018kill yourself
>>541869734the fact it distressed him is a good sign he's not an abuser though
>>541869605>4am>Americunt detectedwhy don't you fuck off? this is a global south thread
>>541869435Why did you need 15 years and you still haven't made a game?
>multiply player speed and acceleration by 2>game instantly feels betteri am now realizing i have been conditioned by shitty games to enjoy shitty mechanics. "weighty movement" is a meme.
>>541870009olddev methods win againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGckTtY7GUo
What if Hellgate London but it's an extraction game? Of course replace Hellgate London gameplay with good gameplay>demons invade the world>humanity retreats underground to defend themselves>players are holy magic scifi knights who set out into the city to get loot>the usual extraction game stuff like>you die you lose everything you're carrying>but pve and coop focus
>>541869945I don't count the time I spent learning how to make games, as development time of my games.
>>541870009I don't like games where you just zip around with barely any inertia. I guess it's because I'm a sexhaving adult who knows how things are supposed to move.
>>541868893im better looking than thattheres plenty of autismo /fit/fags on this site that obsessed with lifting too
>>541870215Most people don't need 15 years to make their first game.
What did ConcernedApe mean by this?
>>541870294my first game took an afternoon to make using gamemaker 8.1 pro.
>From zero to successful game release in three months>btw I was a software engineer for 20 years before I got into gamedev 3 months ago
>>541870450whats your point
>>541870317who cares about that one-hit wonder?
>>541870450if you're technically competent, the hardest parts of gamedev are game design and advertisingit's hard to design a game people care aboutit's hard to gain positive attention for it
>>541870479I had a whole discussion with cris in my head and the conclusion was devs who can release games in a short amount of time for their first game usually had some prior experience with something analogous to gamedev.
>>541870659so? is it cheating to have a career instead of being a NEET?
>>541866668>where interdimensional evil beings led by an intangible Satan-like force have openly subjugated Earth
>>541869598Just because your mother tells you that you're a handsome boy does not mean women on tinder will ever swipe right when they see you. The Steam audience is primarily 18-35 year old male and relatively hardcore PC gamers and do not want to play a game that looks it's made for 5 year olds. The Steam algorithm has already rightfully swiped left on Bokube.
>>541870769There was somebody who made this guy as a villain in his game, right? Surely?
>>541870690no, but it's disingenuous to claim you went from zero if you did not, if that 'from zero' factor part of marketing of your game, it's a bit gay
I think I've hit a new low. I just used a 1L measuring cup as my coffee cup
>>541870317LMAO."Traced" to perfection.Better track record than Vampire Hunters and way better track record than Only Up, either way. Though Only Up also went through lots of trouble might never have recovered.
>>541868202>>541867984>>541868447When will you people learn we do it for money? Do you really think we believe the shit we say? Just like pastor's don't really think you are going to heaven for donating to them.
>>541870317It's okay when T*by F*x does it
>>541867576how much for a model of the same quaility?
>>541870805Hi Tomo, I'm guessing.Lots of terrible arguments here. It smells from miles away of shittesting.Did you, or did you not, find a husband, and get enough sunlight? Assuming that you're a biofemale (XX).
>>541865049>real games are left in the dust to rotDisco elysium made 200 mil, faget.
>>541870837president shinra from FF7
>>541865563He runs the company that built the platform that Allows fagets like you to have the slightest chance at success.Faget.
>>541871256>>541871138Why this retard samefaggering?
>>541871121retard
>>541871121Tomo stopped posting here years ago, Bokusimp.
>>541864752awesome games done good
>>541869435where is your game you made in a year? yeah thought so, keep posting cat pics weirdo
>>541871295retard
>>541871339only the most awful fags keep coming back....
>>541871295You don't even have a game faget
>>541871304>>541871339>BokusimpWho?Sure you didn't, Tomo or whatever you are. Do you take HRT?
>>541870896you could go much lower, lets fucking go!!!>soaks a cushion in coffee and sucks on the corner
>>541871304be more kind to yourself
>>541871740Hold yourself to higher standards, retard.
>>541871793that's you, ain't me
>>541869435I genuinely don't understand the obsession with development times. Who is supposed to decide how long a game should take to develop, and why does it matter?
bokusimp plz go and stay go
>>541872128>IESLBHoly Pablito!
>>541871968You must be 18 to post on 4chan.
>>541872213that's a random ass reply
>>541871465HRT has been proven to boost mental efficiency, if you aren't taking it to dev better you are never gonna make it. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4130961
>>541872056Money givers, so publishers and banks
yes, I use AI coding:>I have an array of Vector2 representing points in a 2D graph. I want a function that accepts an arbitrary x value to return the y component at that point with interpolation if needed.and it writes a function that's self-contained and works as it should and saved me like 15 minutes, probably even more because I'm still sleepy.
SOVL
>>541872317i took a loan of 80k from my father and never finished the game, turns out a music guy and art guy are very costly
>>541872056I want to make more than a single masterpiece in my life.
>>541872437people not using AI are either luddites or poors who can't afford it
>>541872269>HRT as performance boostingHRT may have degraded your "mental efficiency" so much that you aren't able to do basic reasoning, basic ability to function, and analysis. Such as giving correct links. Unless you're just pretending to be in favor of HRT or taking it.
>>541872056Nodevs finding excuses not to work.>It might take me too much to make a proper game, let's spend almost 3 decades trying to find a "workflow" instead!!!
I used AI voice acting. Is that okay with you guys?
>>541872614>HRT may have degraded your "mental efficiency" so much that you aren't able to do basic reasoning, basic ability to function, and analysiswow maybe he really is a woman
>>541872629No.
>>541872614
>>541872687Then you voice act in my game instead.
>>541872629Pay *clap* Voice *clap* Actors *clap* What *clap* They *clap* Are *clap* Worth *clap* *clap* *clap*
>>541873047I read all of them as *plap*
>>541873154I plead all of them to plap
If you had a skilled 2D artist working with you, what type of game would be best to make for guaranteed success?
>>541872963What is your game?
>>541873391pic unrelated i hope
>>541873391>skilled>2D artistThose are mutually exclusive.
>>541873391>a skilled 2D artist working with youI do, he's me. I'm making a 3d game
>>541873423Google "Borrowhelen"
>>541873391>guaranteed successno such thing. in fact the chances of success have never been lower and will also never be higher.
I want to add something like a light novel and manga intro chapter to my dungeon and gameplay and combat section.
>>541873608that game would have had over 100 reviews at $8. over 500 at $5.
>>541873706Proofs?
>>541873691just a few slides would be fine.
>>541873047I do
>abandoned at 5k wishlistshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChtlwI6MbXQis your game better than this? it looks much better than my game but if it this game was not worth finishing then I don't have a prayer.
>>541872815I bet my latest game was way better than yours, despite me barely putting effort and time into it.And I don't hate transsexuals, only those that are despicable and evil. Like exposed people being forced, pressured and manipulated into becoming LGBT by evil people that wishes them ill.A number of former transsexuals regret it deeply, and are generally completely ostracized by LGBT.And you seem like one of those despicable and evil beings that wishes ill upon innocents. So KYS.The meme is a common trope in contemporary stories and games, "staring into the abyss", especially when needing fresh content. And there may be more truth to it in regards to transsexuals, if some of the cases of transsexuals are due to diseases changing people's behavior. So you should think, and consider taking proper measures to try to cure yourself. Unless you wish ill upon innocents, in which case you should KYS.
>>541874217I remember this game. My game is better, you don't just whack zombies
>>541872648Doubt.
>>541874537do you wack them off too?
>>5418742172D sprites on 3D background looks awful unless it's Strider 2 for PSXnot to mention the pixel work on those sprites is awfulThat's just a christcuck larp beatemup, no wonder it got abandoned, boring idea, boring fat old man with a mace as a protag
>>541874602no they wack you off
>>541874537>My game is betterhow many wishlists so far?
>>541873882yeah, like each chapter is a mission to capture a single waifu, so you have to find her randomly spawned in the map.
Where's Cris?
>>541870317He means that the plush is shaped in a very good way.
>>541874675zero. I don't have a steam page. I expect I will get less wishlists due to my game not being a great fit for steam, but rest assured it's a better game.
>>541874856columbine
>>541874932well these guys did have 10k twitter followers so that probably helped with the wishlists.
>>541873608>ignoring the player's questions about the game on the forumsIt would be bad PR for me to work on that game. Improve your community management and come back.
>>541875080>excuses excusesSo you're a bitch who's too afraid to work on anything.
>>541870429That's a great cope. I'm sure it works well for you.
Shouldn't you be sleeping right now?
>>541875607he's pindoss now
>>541875419Seems like you're projecting. Stop being lazy get off your ass and go answer Sara's question.
i give up i cant do anything
>>541875747>i cant do anythingso you can't give up either.checkmate, atheist. get back to work.
>>541870983>Better track record than Vampire Hunterswhat's up with that?
>>541872269>HRT has been proven to boost mental efficiency>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4130961>Conclusions Tranexamic acid was effective in reducing the need for blood transfusions while not increasing the risk of complications, including thromboembolic events and renal failure. Thus our data provide incremental evidence of the potential effectiveness and safety of tranexamic acid in patients requiring orthopedic surgery.
>>541870659>he has a cris living in his headgrim
>>541875828Sorry, Vampire Survivors, not Vampire Hunters.
>>541875935His mental efficiency was too low to link to the right web page, possibly due to HRT.
>>541865256They would probably earn more money if they had a better way to cull the store
>>541876465>mentally efficient enough to program an entire procedural world using cutting edge graphics in rust>not mentally efficient enough to realise that a man can never become a woman
>>541876625>zoomer with zero business experience giving advice to the CEO of one of the most successful companieswhere do you get the confidence?
>>541872056>and why does it matter?It is about risk management. Let's say you spend 5 years on a game and it flops. You'd be pretty devastated. What if you spent those 5 years making 1 game per year. It doesn't feel nearly as bad when one of those flops and you get more chances at making something that doesn't flop. You also get some minor income after the first year even if the first game sells poorly and those games you release will have some sales over time.Multi-year projects when you're an inexperienced developer are very risky in terms of finding success. You need skills and a different level of dedication to deliver on something that takes you multiple years.
>>541876652>a virus that converts every XY to XX
>>541876652>>mentally efficient enough to program an entire procedural world using cutting edge graphics in rustBut they didn't even come up with that themselves. Other programmers invented it and published it open source for free, possibly in C#, and then they just used that and turned it into a game, and made bank. Cunning and ruthless, but not exactly a show of great technical skill and ability.But it was also arguably wrong for those programmers to give away their ingenuity away for free.
>>541876832No such thing, otherwise they really would become biowomen.It's a bit reminiscent of zombie games where one has to avoid infection. Except cures likely exist.
>>541873608that's not your game though
It's outhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2364290/Shadow_Stalker/
>>541876880>away their ingenuity away for free.>away their ingenuity for free.
>>541877025wtf
>>541877025why does shadow stalker not even have an image of the game on its twitch category? Fix it, LilGnomeGames
>>541877234You don't get to control that, doe............... Twitch...... does it automatically..................... doe.......................
>>541876990I mean if they could engineer a virus that does that. if it's physically possible it's going to be developed eventually, but probably a century after they find a way to fix male pattern baldness.
>>541874217It looks like a game that would've done alright in the ps1/ps2 era but it's missing that something for current year. Based on the trailer you just beat up some demons. Is that it? Yet another case of failing to design for an appealing experience.
>>541877025>early accesswhen is it coming out?grats
>>541877025
>>541876731More games than ever yet revenue is not increasing proportionally. People are already gaming the wishlist/visibility system with bots and then flopping and selling nothing or having a very high refund rate. Steam is probably aware of this just they haven't come up with a good alternative yet and are afraid to make big changes.
>>541877285wrong
>>541877025yet another /agdg/ floppa incoming
>>541877285>>541877361https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/q4jhnc/twitch_when_a_category_doesnt_have_an_image_it/just edit IGDB entry?
>>541877025>Steam page created in May 2023 (2.3 years ago)>Outstanding wishlists: 1.2k>Daily wishlist additions: 1>EA>Casual as first tag>The entire description is just "An Asymmetrical Horror FPS."This feel like a very "I give up" release. That's honestly kinda based.
>>541876832Even if such a thing existed and didn't immediately kill you and didn't give you covid blood clots and turbo cancer and aids... Even then I would not accept that you are a real woman.
>>541877491There would also have to be changes to the body in a lot of ways, not all of which the body could grow or change itself easily for, especially the older the person is. And what about egg cells or whatever? Seems like a mess.
>>541877490watch as it gets 1,000 reviews and mindbreaks all the chris zukowski slopjeets in here
>>541877490did shadowstalkerdev send out keys to streamers? Or does he first want people to play it a bit, and see how well it works in practice? Multiplayer versus games are finicky and vulnerable to cheating, and indie developers have limited development and testing options
>>541877665I can only hope you follow your ideals when you release and shadowdrop with 0 marketing.
>>541877665The game is in a Zuk-approved slop genre, so it wouldn't mindbreak anyone. I think it stands a chance, but it's still very underpolished at the moment. The timeline doesn't inspire much confidence in the dev. It currently looks like an Unreal asset flip that could've been made in 2.3 weeks by an experienced and skilled dev, but instead it took an inexperienced dev 2.3 years.>>541877815The game doesn't have actual matchmaking or ladder implemented yet, so cheating won't be a problem.
I just realized that adding game modes is the "add a new character" of storytelling, basically a way to increase game lenght.
>>541877815he won't have enough players to get people playing multiplayer
>>541877662>Seems like a mess.Yes, this is all extremely obvious and why people don't like trannies. No matter how convincing their disguise, no matter how well they pass everything about them is a lie and at some point that lie falls apart. And when it does they expect you to go along with their lie, lie to yourself and lie to them in order to spare their feelings, to serve their ongoing delusionThey represent the absurd philosophical end-point of liberalism. It's not enough that man be liberated from state oppression, family, nation, any expectations or moral judgement, the baggage of past and the obligations of the future. In the end the liberal seeks liberation from reality itself.
>>541878343>he won't have enough players to get people playing multiplayerHe can give away a hundred keys to aggydaggies
>>541878239He should've done a demo and developed it with that instead of EA. He needed the influx of free players to give feedback and post bugs.
>>541878421>Yes, this is all extremely obvious and why people don't like trannies.LLM, it was about a theoretical scenario about using future technology to make a virus that could change DNA from XY to XX, or whatever it is.Didn't read.Now post your game.
>>541878343steam refunds make it easy for people to try friendslop for an hour if they want
Does anyone know how to draw a sprite with multiple shaders in raylib? My current approach only draws the last applied shader.
>>541879230sure but they can also play hidden source for free
>>541877996You seem particularly upset. Why's that?
>>541870203I like the mission where you go into the dudes brain. tho i also liked that one in NWN2 or DAO (can't remember which) where you enter into the dream land of that demon sucubus thing>demons invade the world>humanity retreats underground to defend themselves>players are holy magic scifi knights who set out into the city to get lootreminds me of EYE as well, kinda. Tho in EYE I think the demons are like the manifestations of negative human emotions, like the warp in WH40K
>>541872815LAWL, LULZACOPTER EVEN
Added wind zones, it took a bit of experimenting with @tool shenanigans to learn how to customize them in editor(probably unneeded ultimately but good to know)I'll create an arrow for temp graphics I guess
>>541876880you didn't make your brain, your parents did
>>541878647>claims to have not read>still tries to arguesee how the tranny has an aversion to any form of honesty
my ideas don't matter because I don't have the vision or skillset to create an appealing art style.
>>541872815Every homophobic dude ever be like
>>541877025>that descriptiondev didn't even try lmao
>>541873423alta vista dtf>>541879953you going to use "debug draw" for place holder visualisation? Because then you can keep it as an alternate debug view later on when you want it to affect things but want to see where it really is etcAlso, how you do that? Is it Area3D + scripted physics impulses?
>>541869435idk figure it out
>>541880029didnt ask
I haven't been here for 3 weeks, did I miss anything notable? I did think of this place one time when i saw a bocchi gachapon machine
>>541877025Cringe behaviour. He is afraid to fail, so he insulates himself from this by being>like, sooo disinterestedDespite the fact that making a game is a huge time sink and he's been working on it for years.
>>541880350Post your game.
>>541880440ask jeeves "bokube"
>>541880440veronica "green cheetah"
Benchod!!!! You gonna get raped again!!!
we boutta dev it up cuh
>>541880116>you going to use "debug draw" for place holder visualisation?yes, I tried to make sloppa give me an outline shader but it failedarea3d and properties I change on the area3d, I calculate the velocity each frame.someone once warned me that export variables can get deleted if the scene corrupts but if I'm going to design a level having 200 wind resources for location and speed is stupid.
>>541880675>>541880638>>541880226who are you people
>>541880709I think he means https://github.com/DmitriySalnikov/godot_debug_draw_3d
>>541880752Bastard bitch! You die now!
>>541880875>Dmitry SalnikovI thought that this general hated Russians. Why are you using a Russian invention?
>>541880752what do you mean you people?
>>541865049This post actually does a good job explaining the complaint that I often hear that steam isn't promoting enough games or the right games. They've left marketing entirely up to devs. This is a lot more substantial than just saying >valve doesn't promote enough gamesGood job.
>>541881002When the Brazilians are asleep, the Slavs come out to play.
>>541880709>someone once warned me that export variables can get deleted if the scene corruptsNot sure if that's ever happened to me. But you know what has happened to me all the time? Ctrl-dragging a node from the scene tree into the script, then later re-arranging the DOM of the scene tree especially with UI elements, and forgetting to make it unique % before ctrl-dragging it, then getting errors. Or load() / preload() a file then later rename it in the file browser. But use @export property and drag into the slot on the inspector, and EverythingJustWorks™ so I think that I'm going to stick with the @export variables too>>541880875yeah this one. Even in a finished game having these that you can toggle on with an F-key can be useful if you ever want to see what all your invisible nodes and script statuses are doing if your game ever gets in a weird state, on an exported project maybe having a gdscript REPL that you can bring up might be useful too but I never went that far because I'm always running from in the editor debug mode>>541880709>area3d and properties I change on the area3d, I calculate the velocity each frame.cool. So do you modify velocity and let the physics engine move the position, or do you directly set the position? I've tried something similar, but custom gravity force in Area3D's and it was janky AF just modifying velocity and letting physics engine move, the physics engine seems to be desynced and lagged from what I can tell. So I had to go full scripted movement (position set directly by gdscript, no physics) to get it to work which felt like a cop-out so I was interested in others approach to anything similar and how well it worked for them
>>541879979>>541880020You are retarded, plain and simple.
>>541877665>seething about CHADkowskiSays it all really.
>>541880875Then no I don't use this
>>541880350>>541880518>>541880621Cringe "behaviour".
What is the alternative to string comparison? As far as I know comparing strings is inefficient but I want to use readable parameters. I want to make a camera controller and I want to write something like cameraController.GoToState("ZoomedIn"); and it will adjust its position size etc. and then to go back to normal state I Want to call .GoToState("Default"). Unity's animation system has this I think, how does it do it? Something like hashing? I remember functions like StateNameToHash. Are there any other ways to do it? I guess even if I want to keep the strings as hash I have to create the hashes at Awake or something. Or maybe Unity does this at something like OnPreProcessBuild?tldr: Is comparing strings that bad, what is the alternative to use for comparing readable parameters?
>saar defending chris slopkowski
>>541882000sorry please forgive me, I have severe ADHD and autism (self-diagnosed)
>>541881313player.gdscriptif area.has_overlappingarea.get_overlapping()wind_velocity = area.wind_directionelsewind_velocity = Vector3.ZEROadding this velocity to whatever the jump velocity iscurrently no velocity while on groundI used this method for knockback velocity in the past, you just add the knockback and then make it 0 again
>>541882228It's called string interning.
Me studying timecharts to determine when I can enjoy the thread more.
>>541882228Comparing strings really isn't detrimental to performance. That's a meme spread by people who don't know what they're talking about.The real risk is introducing bugs via typos because there is no invalid state they could be in.Typically you'd use something like an enum so you can define states with no risk of typos introducing bugs into your game.
>>541882237what is the brown fluid?
>saarposter seething about Christopher GODkowski
>>541882467>indian defending himself from toilet paperI'm sure you can guess, Anon.
The select-able dice feature is (basically) complete! It's a little fun now, but I have plans to juice it up a bit more with some random attributes and shiiiiet.also in talks with a couple artists, which will be interesting. Gotten some promising stuff from them so far, but picking one is hard.
>>541878239>The game is in a Zuk-approved slop genreUnfortunately>>541878575 is correct.You can't just profess to follow some of Zuks marketing laws and then just ignore the rest.
>>541882228stringname
>>541878239Ladders work.https://files.catbox.moe/gbtgcj.PNGThank you to everyone who spectated and tested Shadow Stalker since the first demoday in 2021 it was submitted to, back when the game was still called HIDDEN.Just make game.I'll probably also do another round of keys in 12 hours for anons in different time zones.
anyone want to team up on a 3d city builder game for a 20 day game jam starting in 1 week with me? I plan on using godot and free CC0 assets off sketchfab BTW HMU https://gamedevfinder.net/user/agoslosdagados/
>>541883081cool I got the >KFYone, Gunna test this on my laptop tomorrow
>>541883081I took the first key. Thanks.>The CandidLol. That might've been a better name. BTW, ladder means matchmaking with some ELO or similar ranking system so you can be matched by skill level.
Redeeming is meaningless when you don't have friendsto be clear I'm not teasing anyone else but talking about myself
>abandoned at 140k wishliststrailer from 5 years ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXGc7QMHTXU
>>541883081I'll check it out around weekend, cheers
>>541882385I learned something new but this isn't exactly what I can use I think.I'm going to keep a list of CameraState's {position, rotation, size} and give them a name and tell it to change its variables to that state using a string. I think I want something just like unitys animator state system. Maybe a Dictionary might be an alternative? It's not serializable I think so I'd have to use a list and turn it into one, maybe.>>541883035It's godot only I think. I searched and only godot stuff came up>>541882459I found out about .Equals(). It looks for the size first so it's faster. I might use this one. But I realized I still would have to iterate through the list of CameraState. and check one by one if the name matches. Is there a way to directly access it? I guess Dictionary does it more performantly.My game is small so that small list wouldn't be an issue I guess. I'll iterate through list and check with if(statename.Equals(states[i].name))
>>541883639any complication you add to prematurely optimize will be slower than the simplest option
>>541883504who gives a shit about abandoned games? deranged looney troons give up all the time once they realise they'll have to do some real work
>>541883410Parents were boomers so when they eventually got security cameras they put picrel signs all over the property.I thought "Oh shit that's a great name for a game"That was until friends reminded me what most people on the internet think of when they hear the word "candid">>541883609>>541883309Have fun anons.
>>541879337bump ;_;
>>541883869Use a real engine.
>>541883504I like the look of this, gonna add it to my inspirations
>>541883504This is an incredibly inspired work of art. >>541883737>LE TROOOOONSDullard.
>>541884061can you multipass shaders in godot?
>>541883737I think it's important to keep in mind how long games take to make.that game was in development for 5 years. whoever made it put in more work than almost anyone here and they still abandoned it at 140000 wishlists.
>>541883504>trailercore engagementbait sloppa with mediocre gameplay many such cases
>>541883459so... what're your're saying is..... do not redeem??? just what kind of street do you think this is??
>>541884427I was thinking the same thing. That anon is just having the usual visceral reaction to his own jealousy which happens frequently. Whoever was working on that game was full of LOGOS and probably had some kind of life crisis or burned out like a brilliant star.
>>541883504those orange reactor vessels look cool, but that pixel chromatic aberration text at the bottom looks like cancer
>>541884324Yes for spatials.
>>541884457>engagementbaitThis is so pathetic lmao. Someone makes something incredible which is bound to receive attention and you smear some kind of buzzword on it to soothe yourself. >mediocre gameplayPossible, hard to tell from the trailer, however a game that looks like that will be happily played by people for the artistic experience alone. Something you wouldn't understand with your agitated coomer brain.
>>541884601>>541884427>>541884314if that person gave up on this game after supposed "5 years" of work and 140k wishlists then they were the dullard and retardalso nice samefaggig troon faggot
>>541884601>that game was in development for 5 years.The kickstarter is from 2015 or something and the game is notorious for being on the threshold of vaporware. It was a huge surprise and confidence boost when it was on next fest but it's been about 3 years since.
>>541884786this the kind of dude that replies to twitterbait gifs with "when release??"
>>541881002>I thought that this general hated RussiansWhy
>>541884817
>>541884990Shodanon, the god of this general, is Polish, and he hates Russians.
>>541883639your original idea of hashing is a potential way, it is good, when you have a function that takes in one string, and then has to check if it is equal to any in a big list.hashing the input each time, to do numeric (result of hash should be regular numeric integer) comparisons on all the to-be-checked-againsts which are pre-hashed at program startup, is a speed up.but if you don't have a long array of strings to check each input string against, hashing first can actually be slower because I remember there was some code base (I forgot which) that this was the problem because it had very big input strings and in practice they would be rejected within the first 20 bytes or so because it would already find a different value. and just the act of hashing the very long input strings was much slower.Now in C/C++ it is recommended to use gperf ("perfect hashing") system that is some command line tool that you tell it "these are all my string values it can have" like, the textual enum symbol values, like if you are deserializing an .ini file or something, it can speed that up, where you want humans to write nice readable string values in text files rather than the int value of the enum value which they'd have to keep looking up in a reference material all the time, but you want your parser to be very fast to minimize loading times or something like that, then use gperf to generate the source code for your strings. You have to know all the strings to compare input values to ahead of time when you build your app for this.For now, I recommend just have all your strings in an array, and parse input by looping over the array comparing input to each element until a match if any. Then, down the track if you ever want load times to be faster, you can look into replacing the array looping string comparer with gperf if you are using godot / unreal or c# equivalent whatever that is if you are using poonity
>>541884893Brainlet response.
>>541884786
>>541885048>the god of this generalan absent "god" he posted in /agdg/ a grand total of maybe 30 times ever
>>541884817>n-no they were the dullard>twoooonick
>>541885048This is a Rotate general.
>>541885112Godot and Unreal have built-in support for string interning in StringName and FName respectively.
>>541885021Based reaction image reply.>>541885186Cursed reaction image reply.
>>541883504>>541884457>>541884786I don't want to say the gameplay would've been super mediocre, but there was a moment in the trailer that was trying to build tension by having your path move towards a set of laser only to show the player to just jump on top of them with ease. I feel like the game would've have been filled with to many trailer moments and not lots of moment to moment gameplay. The game does look pretty though.
>>541885394hmm, okay probably start with that built in then. StringInterning still requires to touch every byte of the input string I think. some other code generator should be able to generate the minimal offsets comparisons tree assuming that all inputs have to be valid, but who cares
>541885409>541885276>541885021Transgenderist samefag
>>541885275He has a barrage of discord troons defending him at any given moment. Go ahead and type "peripeteia is shit" right now. You'll immediately get swarmed by trannies screeching at you.
>>541885559can you take a screenshot or greentext their sentences instead double clicking and ctrl-fing is too hard
>>541885637I wasn't that crude but its already happened to me some months ago in a whodev argument so I'm well aware
Are the trannies in the thread with us right now?
>>541885787>a whodev argumentWho was the whodev? What was the argument about?
>>541885048But peripeteia is available in russia
After so many years of gamedev and failed prototypes I finally understand cris. He wants to make a game in 3 weeks because he knows any longer would kill his desire to keep going. I get it Cris. Powering through once the honeymoon is over and development is no longer fun is the hardest part of gamedev, period. That's why both he and me and many other devs are sitting on a giant pile of trashed prototypes and have nothing to show after so many years. Prototyping is the only fun part of gamedev, everything after is just pain.
>>541885957Not just available. It's apparently the second biggest market.
>>541886025Suffering builds character.
>>541883504Except for the cancerous monochromatic color design this is everything I want from a 2d futuristic zelda
>>541884427what does it matter when at the end of the day it's an abandoned project? he might as well put 0 hours into it, at least that way he wouldn't have gotten some people's hopes up but now the game they wanted and he promised doesn't exist
do you think this algorithm is enough for a roguelike?it's the extent of my abilities (at this point I have watched dozens of hours of dungeon generating tutorials and GDC talks, even tried reading a few articles)I simply start with a room at 0,0then add a room in a random direction from a random existing room, and while loop the position if theres already a room thereobviously these need to be "real" rooms and not just 20x20 ColorRects, at some point.
TWANNIES AND TWOOOONS
>>541885957It's not
>>541886395It depends on the rest of the gameplay, but it sounds lame as is.
>>541886025To be honest I don't agree. It's the learning process that's pain because I associate it with all of my school time. Far from being in a better state than before, my family is abusing my biological impulses to help and belong to make my life an utter shit show of turbulent crisises.Finally since my muse for creating my game is the same compassion that causes this shit to happen in the first place it's unlikely I can tell them to fuck off and just like make game unless I can justify that to my moral principles
>>541886139>second biggest market>less than 10% of purchases Riiight...
>>541886774well... okay.... perhaps i should start out with this, then I can work on the algorithm after I have some gameplay?
>>541883737>>541886337>what does it matter when at the end of the day it's an abandoned project?Why does it matter to you if some people admire an unfinished work?
why dont all indie games just force 4:3? it looks much better
>>541886893because that particular work is not available. it's not like a painting.
>>541887004You forget that /v/tards don't play video games. They like the idea of video games. The game not being available to play doesn't stop the /v/tard from enjoying it all the same.
>>541886784Are you sure you aren't just living with your family because you have no choice and they provide for you? You should try not to make yourself a martyr in your own mind it's not healthy. However it would be great if more creative people had the ability to receive the kind of grants that some artists get where the state literally gives them food and lodging to devote their time to their work.
>>541886917it does, and they should hold the UI at 4:3 in the center, and use keep-height, expand-width mode for wider screens / window sizes
>>541886784If you don't enjoy learning, you're NGMI. There's an insane amount of skills you need to learn to make video games.
>>541887004The work is the trailer, we are admiring the trailer. It's inspirational. It is available to our eyeballs.
>>541887186>They provide for youWhy do people always assume this shit? I provide for them. They want me to move back after 3 months of kicking me out. I couldn't even do more than mildly unfuck the things I had to neglect to support them again, and all of the promises they made to me before I returned are and have always been vaporware. I work a full time job and help them. They would never dream of otoh even baring inconvenience for my sake
>>541886917I give the option of:>Retro GraphicsForces 4:3, 640x480, no AA,, no shadows>Modern GraphicsAny aspect ratio, any resolution, MSAA, shadows
>>541886784>my family is abusing meSounds like a (You) problem.
>>541887339I can do it just fine when I'm not stressed out from being interrupted every 2 seconds
>>541887152>They like the idea of video games.It's better to have made something that excites people than to make nothing at all. That trailer wasn't made by an idea alone, someone was making an actual game.
>>541885112op here, thank you for the answer. I'm using unity btw. I'm going to use string.Equals() for now. I had heard of about hashing but I didn't know about perfect hashing.>>541885394Anon, I looked up string interning and I don't think it applies here. it's just a reference, maybe you can use that like the unique id or something but it requires you to access the string that already exists. In my code I'll call cameracontroller.GotoState("statename") so it won't have access the internal strings in cameracontroller.
>>541887647>That trailer wasn't made by an idea alone, someone was making an actual game.That's not the case. You have guys like Gavin who makes the trailer to validate the idea before he makes the game.
>>541887475>>541887614Well maybe you should actually look into getting a creative grant.
>>541887840>That's not the case.Oh really? Was that trailer just an animation then? Then I guess it actually is a finished work, and someone set out to make a fake game trailer with an animation, and they finished that animation and we were impressed by it.
>>541887152you think all of those 140k wishlists were /v/tards?
>>541887897I'm not Jewish or brown so that won't work. Furthermore to get a grant you have to show a modicum of exceptionalism especially if it's a real grant instead of a money laundering scheme. While I believe in my game if I thought it was in a state worth showing to anyone I would crowd fund immediately.
>>541886481Why are you lying?
>>541887341go watch movies then. I'm here for games dumbass
>>541888109I think the faggot deep throating the cock of a game that will never exist is a nodev /v/tard, yes.
>>541888140>i set my steam client to russian that means its totally available in russia
Holy shit fygoon made it into Sonic Expo?!?!!?!
>>541879804EYE is another inspiration yeah. The devs released a new game couple days ago that also has those feels but it's not scifi.I really like the ruined city, mix of scifi and fantasy and demons in Hellgate. The game's so cool conceptually but the level generation and gameplay suck.
>>541888143You're here to get upset at people liking things.
>>541886893they don't admire unfinished work, they wanted to play the game once it released
>>541888326>thinks about deep throating penises when someone likes a videogame trailer
>>541888604That's irrelevant. Anon shared it here and stated explicitly it was an abandoned project. Some of us were still inspired by it. This shouldn't be an issue for anyone.
>400 posts>0 progress
>>541888328Are you one of his schizos?BTW I am impressed it sold so well here, despite almost no one knowing english, you should definitely add russian language peridev
>tfw rapid fire fixing minor bugs on my todo listGenuinely feels 8x better than actually adding new content, I'm gonna code bad on purpose so I have things to fix later.
Ey m8s i really want to improve my health HUD for Wagie Run. The current one is this, on the bottom right of the screen. But my mind is blank. You guys have any ideas?
>>541888890I want to show my progress to an audience that can appreciate it and will come to support it financially. AGDG doesn't seem to be it. It's nothing personal but the time I'd spend preparing the posts for AGDG is time that would be better spent making the posts for that audience.
>>541889108>you should definitely add russian language peridevI'm not the peridev you retarded 70 IQ orc.Btw, don't worry, Shodanon won't add r*zzian into his game.
>>541888458you're here shilling a game that doesn't exist that's not even yours. kill yourself immediately.
>>541890021>you're here shilling a game that doesn't exist that's not even yoursHow can I shill something that isn't for sale?
>>541889227I save my easy bugs for that sweet 'pamine.
Streamers run this world, whatever they decide to play the masses will follow, there is no personal preference anymore and games will never again have a lasting impact or legacy, it's just fast food.
construction time again
>>541890442Doubt it.
>>541890614Streamers and YouTubers. If it's not a streamer, then it's slop breadtubers who drive the mass opinions.
I'm going to focus on 3d modelling and animation before starting combat, after the basic systems are done. Good 3d models and animations make the game much more interesting and appealing to devs and gamers. That way, more people will support and encourage me.
>>541890617Jannies pogrom'd Anon for disrespecting streamsoys....
>>541888890>>541879953
>>541890914>breadtubersthat doesn't mean what you think it means
I mean... this is kind of neat. It just needs the rest of the game.
>>541885637>pic related again
>>541891331Whatever. You get my point. You know who I meant.
>541891397Here we go. Here's one of Shodanon's troons right on call.
>>541870317>Chicken isnt chocolate coloredHeresy
>call out shodanons inner circle trannies>thread goes real siletCurious...
After years and years of studying the language of the gods and becoming a god myself, I can finally make game... However, I lost what was most important... The desire to make one.
>>541891491Thanks for helping me make this.
>>541892845>ai slop
>be me>post progress>get harassed here>go to another board to post progress>get harassed there>notice something>any time i get harassed f*goon is having a meltie somewherewhy is he like that? for a while I thought it was the so-called inner circle bullying me, but theres too much correlation with f*goons melties. it doesnt make sense because ive never replied to him or even mentioned him in a post until right now
meanwhile megabonk has 20k reviews
>>541886917everyone yelled at me when I tried that
>>541889512I like it as it is. Not intrusive and fits the game well.
is it normal that i find programming or making music less stressful than gaming? somehow i don't want to game because it feels like too much work, while dev and composing feels chill.
>>541894385We tried to warn you anon, but you wouldn't listen
>>541894385hes insane, he spams posts relentlessly when hes around pretending to be multiple people
>>541894570by everyone do you mean gamers or devs here?
>>541886025It’s better to have nothing to show than a fundamentally bad game that sold 10 copies. If you’re going to invest years into making a game, it had better be a solid idea guaranteed to be good. Having high standards on what sort of idea is exciting enough to keep working on after the initial 3 weeks of excitement is a good thing because it saves you from wasting years of your life on a fundamentally bad idea.
>>541894385He's the kind of guy that loves being rude to others. When you're rich, he will be not
>>541894592I'll take your words for that m8. ThanksBut to be honest, i probably gonna swap the HP color from green to red
i give up, i cant make my game
>>541894385There is no inner circle, that's literally just fagoon shit he spews when he's having meltdowns and more than one person calls him a fag. What the fuck would an "inner circle" on an anonymous board with random posts even do? lmfao autistic people are so fucking stupid
>>541895445yeah thats why i said so-called. when I first started posting, I'd get harassed and those posts were immediately followed by f*goon saying some shit like>inner circle is at it againbut now I'm realizing it was him crabbing and then blaming some made up group of devs. my guess is that some devs became friends with each other and he's jealous because nobody wanted to be his friend
>>541781947I am not pipe dreaming, in fact I am putting in a lot of effort and making progress.For now it's just a pill that moves on a cilinder, but it will be developed even further.
Inner circle schizo is not fygoon. Fygoon is indeed an insane piece of shit, but he's not the only schizo who trolls these threads constantly. Stick around this shithole awhile and you'll learn to distinguish one schizo from another.
>>541896032Oh sweet summer child
>>541896032I'm gonna go back to lurking anyway, cus I don't progress post that often to begin with so its not much of a difference to me if I stop that altogether.
>>541891397The repeated posting of that image kind of proves the point. I haven't really kept watch of Peripeteia, but now I'm aware of people posting for Shodanon and Peripeteia.
>>541895921The original meme was when a few devs streamed together during a DD years ago, they called it the Incel Circle steam. Since then a schizo latched onto the name and spammed it, claiming that since devs get together outside of /agdg/ then they must also somehow band together to hate his game for some reason
>>541896424thats just sad.
>give feedback to everyone in the thread>no one gives feedback to my postsHate it when it happens...
>>541897187bad post, 2/10
>>541894385You are AN ANON on an EXCLUSIVE THREAD FOR GAMEDEV inside 4CHAN. You are literally inside an inner circle, inside another inner circle
You're a few lines of C++ and AI generated 3D models away from being immortalized in eternityhttps://www.engadget.com/gaming/clair-obscur-expedition-33-has-sold-five-million-copies-153148952.html
this is the only circle ya'll are in
>it doesn't work
>>541868549Yes
>>5418909734 years later
>>541898894kek what a faggot
>>541869734Nah, normal people have dreams like this on occassion. They're called "nightmares". Last night I dreamt my cat's feet fell off, and I even picked them up so the vet could reattach them but when I did they were all red and severed gorey. It was an awful dream and resulted in me worrying my cat was sick so I got up and checked on her, loved on her, etc.Him being disturbed by the dream and equally disturbed by the low iq filth of society really shows he is actually empathetic towards animals and concerned about society as a whole. I dont know why we have nightmares like this though since they can be really horrifying.>>541898894>>541868447Oh that loser? Yea, see if you can find him in the image. Aint easy bc they all look the same. Reddit mods, school shooters, incels, they're all from the same cookie cutter template. Further proof we live in a simulation btw.
>>541898894please stop posting my private conversations i had with people i rightfully banned from the place i vowed to protect
>>541896320The thread schizos frame any response or lack of it as proof that they're correct. If they're called retarded, it must be their target or the inner circle personally speaking to them. If no one responds, it's a telling silence from the inner circle. It's like they exist inside their own tiny universes where everything is related to their obsession, and they think that through posting enough they can drag other people down into their personal schizo universe and make them see the world the way they do.
>>541869842It's the afternoon in America now. Lots of people getting ready for their weddings.
>>541899349I look like this
Benchod.... Rahtarmataputra guturbadishini benchod...
>>541898894LMAO, what a pathetic guy: he doesn't even know the alt accounts, but apparently he managed to track someone's real identity in 5 minutes? Sure.
>>541899250What exactly makes me a faggot? He deserved his ban and I know his real life name.>>541899349I am a professional. My image is nothing like the rest. Plus I'm a democrat who opposes Trump. DEI is a good thing, but you mongrels wouldn't understand so why argue? If this were my home turf, I'd just ban you all with no possibility for appeal. Since it's not, I will just report any wrongdoings to the proper authorities.
I will post some progress this weekend. I think you guys will say wow :)
is it immoral to create a porn game? Do I need to worry about some sort of divine retribution for creating a lewd thing?
>>541900498Yes and yes
>>541899367>>541900313I know this is usually just larp for kicks but something about this tells me you're actually him. Only a reddit mod would be such a loser he also goes to every other gamedev community even 4channel to try to become a mod there too. And even if you are larping I know he will come here eventually to read this so either way I'm talking to you.
>>541897273What a three-star post.
>>541898894I really cant understand why some morons behave like that. I mean, if you behave retardedly toxic just for trolling, then fine, its fun to have some unimportant man-made conflicts here and there. But actively sabotage someone with serious intent, not for fun, while you gain nothing whatsoever? Brain must be so underdeveloped because his mom drink alcohol while he's still in her womb, to be able to achieve such emotional retardation
>>541900695I think it could be really good though and people would like it.. my prototype is already quite compelling to me personally.
>>541899509But the meme defeats itself if it is repeatedly posted. I've seen it a lot by now. Unless you suspect those of posting stuff against Peripeteia of posting that image, or something.I don't trust either side, neither those for or against Peripeteia's developers.
>>541900950yeah people tend to like sin that doens't mean it isn't wrong and won't eventually lead to your downfall
>>541900950I also agree with the anon, man. Yes, and yes. But dang, a smoker, knowing full well cigarette industries destroyed millions of health, will not say "STOP" to a cigarette factory near him, right?
Is the reason why Liq haven't managed to dev anything for years, that Bevy and Rust is hindering him to the extreme, and he is too broken to admit it?
what was so bad about steam greenlight?why can't they bring it back?
Stardew Symphony of Seasons Tonight
>>541901583>instead of being gatekept by an algo you get gatekept by whoever the fuck manually reviews game submissions>probably an indian or roastieNo thanks, I'll take my chances with the algorithm
Now that I have the custom tools required to build content for my game, I realized that I actually suck at making content for my own game. I can't even imagine what kind of levels should I create and whatever I try it looks like shit. Fuck.
It's a music making day.
>>541902138You're like the opposite of the "idea guy". You're all execution with no ideas
being outside for 6 weeks made me realize that mobile games are a valid gaming genre, it's just that monetization methods are soulless. but it's valid to want to play simple chill games when being outside after work.
>>541902652The only mobile games I play are games that were originally made for PC/console but got ported to mobile, like Balatro. If my game sells decent enough I'm gonna make a mobile port of it
>>541901583it was gamed too much and just a popularity contest. so all games would eventually just be from twitter grifters.
Is it really a flop if I enjoyed making it and I'm glad with how the game turned out?
the key to consistency is to have enough chill and fun between yesdev time.the only threat to consistency is burnout or loss of motivation. and it grows out of lack of recovery.
>>541902627I guess.
>>541902970to me, if the game doesn't pay my rent it is a flop, your definition might be different.
>>541902970just bee urself
>>541902970There shouldn't be such a stigma around games flopping. Something like 90% of startups in all industries fail. People here will be dicks but people in general will respect that you even tried since most people don't have the ambition or discipline to see a project like a game through
>>541902970i noticed that when you do something you enjoy doing you have no right to demand payment for it. if nobody asked you to do it for a payment, then you can't be mad if nobody pays.that ofc doesn't mean you can't make money doing what you want, it's just that you aren't entitled to the success, because you do something nobody ordered.
>>541900161Nta but I have been get accused of being some unhinged schizo stalker multiple times by gamedevs. I can't find the long schizopost wall of text where the Project Zomboid dev & mod unite together to accuse me, a first time poster who just asked when NPC's will be implemented, of being some 4 year stalker out to gangstalk them.So instead here is a comment reply where someone accuses me of being "the blackmailer" who is blackmailing GameFromScratch creator, simply bc I used basic logic to point out the simplest solution would probably be just pay the pittance to make his life no longer hell. I was banned for this immediately btw bc the mod thought I was admitting to being "the blackmailer".People really are as stupid as you'd think. This isn't even the only example I have where I use extreme sarcasm and the mods/admins of some place think I'm admitting to some crime. Before Elon bought Twitter, a few people on twitter thought they were genius detectives because they translated the russian symbols in my name and in google translate it translated to "I am a Russian Bot" to which they had this weird personal convo between each other where they slowly "figured out" I was a fake bot account. To which they reported me, and the Twitter admins literally banned me because they thought I was a Russian Bot caught by genius detectives.When Elon bought Twitter and literally fired the freaks who were truly this retarded, I just appealed my ban. I literally said in the description "The former employees were so retarded, they thought I was a russian bot because my name sarcastically translated "I am a Russian Bot." into Russia using google translate. I am, to their surprise, actually human. Instant unban and immunity from censorship going forward after that. Any other account I create doesn't have that immunity. Kindof funny how that worked out.
If you could invest 100 usd on gamedev tools and assets each month, what would you buy?
>>541900856>But actively sabotage someone with serious intentI'm confused. Who is being sabotaged and how?
>>541903417high quality coffee and other stims
>>541888748>he got inspired by someone who failedlmao it's good that you're setting expectations for yourself properly
>>541903417what i want
>>541903417I recently learned about Embergen and Liquigen and I've incorporated them into my workflow. Really cool programs for visual effects.
>>541903417bullets to shoot you with
>>541903046To me if the game doesn't buy me a house, it's a flop. It doesn't have to be a big house, just in a safe neighborhood, within 30 minutes driving distance of a city.
>>541903417hire scott menville as a voiceactor
what if...white? yeah?
>>541903319>simply bc I used basic logic to point out the simplest solution would probably be just pay the pittance to make his life no longer hell.Holy shit, you really are a blackmailer.Is your day job being a mobster?
>>541903747Uh... racist, much?Looks cool :)
>>5419034171. pay the Steam submission fee for $1002. put up screenshots/mockups of my game3. if it doesn't get decent wishlists, I go back to the drawing board with another game4. if it starts getting wishlists, no money needed.
I set a budget for my game of $5000. I spent $2000 so far and the game is almost done. What could I do with the remaining $3,000 for marketing? Reddit ads? Paying small streamers?
>>541903417Software will not fix your laziness and inability to accept and adhere to criticism, latinx retard.
>>541894445shouda made a better game
>>541886025Cris has been project hopping and "workflow maxing" for 10 years. If you're starting to feel like you can relate to him I got bad news for you. You're NGMI.>>541894683Words of wisdom from anon. Too many anons here waste time working on games with shit ideas.
it's actually is coming along good, it's fun and quick to play the minigame, I guess I'll have to set up the final touches before the next minigame.
>>541903992I'd probably pay someone to make the trailer if you haven't already. Trailer editing is one of those skills that takes a while to get good at and it's a waste of your time.
I'm a whitemailer.
>>541903417VR headset
>>541901583It was bad because it was entirely up to the dudes moderating greenlight. Votes didn't mean anything. There was no set amount to guarantee your game getting greenlit. No "top 10 every month get greenlit". Entirely up to the mods' decision. Now if they brought it back I think a wishlist style format could work. Set the barrier to somewhere around 20-50k wishlists to get the game greenlit. It would still incentivize botting and low quality wishlists though.
>>541905042>I'll give you $10,000 or I leak my nude photos
>>541901583It was good because it actually prevented retards saturating steam with their retarded slop games.
>>541899367>>541898894Never. Especially when you compliment my intelligence while banning me, but don't realize it. I'm apparently so smart, to even compete with me you'd have to take literal drugs. I am drug free and better than you on stimulants. Not surprising. Gamedev moderators never actually make games.
>>541883504That trailer had a moment with the stained glass and static I wanted to try for a background. Whipped one up real quick, but needs more polish
>>541901046>meme about a schizo being annoying gets made>meme gets reposted (as memes do)>this is proof the schizo is correctAnon...
quick and dirty solutions are the best.oh they're going to bite me in the ass later? I'll fix them when my game passes 10k wishlists. maybe.
Boys I have a date tomorrow. How much is acceptable to talk about my game? It's the only thing I ever think about but I want to hide my autism.
>It (almost) works!
>>541905974Forgot image whoops
>>541906226say nothing the whole time. women love the strong and silent type.
>it never works
hello. how make game?
>>541903794>HELP! I am being blackmailed. For $50, I could have my life back and no longer be stressed out. I've lost everything and an indian has out maneuvered me because I clicked on a link in an email that promised me riches!>Idk maybe just pay the money so you can forget this happened and move on?>REEEE YOU ARE THE BLACKMAILER ARENT YOU?>REEEE HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THIS REEEEE>LOLOLOL SO WHAT THEY CAN THEN SAY NO AND ASK FOR $500 NEXT TIME?No dumb shit you just don't pay anything beyond that. $50 for a third worlder is a lot of money but for a professional programmer it's literally nothing. If you lose the $50 then who cares? If it gets you back everything you lost, then you win. Steam also extorts you for $100 per game, and you pay that with no problem. Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Disney all make you subscribe and then show you ads anyway afterwards and you pay that too so idk why you think this is a big deal.>REEEEEEEEEEE YOU ARE THE BLACKMALIERS OMG HELP HELP POLICE HELPI don't even know how to respond to this level of retardation.Here's an image of a ton of the replies I got when I suggested just paying the indian the $50 he demanded. The OP seemed to be having a mental breakdown over it, and $50 really isn't that big of a deal for him since he's raking in 6 figures easily. I don't remember if I was just trolling to piss everyone off by saying pay, actually thought he should bc of the situation, just wanted to see what would happen if he did (for my own knowledge & future, and just general curiosity), or what. So don't just assume I'm retarded I might have suggested something retarded for a good reason. I don't remember this was a long time ago.
>>541906226The less said about your game the better.If you want to seem like a good conversationalist, ask her open ended questions (have AI come up with some) with follow-ups and keep nodding meaningfully and saying "wow, really?" when she gets excited about something.
>>541906226I've always thought it was bad or cringe to talk about your game. Apparently the opposite is true. Everyone, especially women, find it interesting at the very least and awesome at the best. It shows ambition, intellect, potential financial success, a fun personality, and for people who aren't into gaming it really makes them curious and interested bc it's so alien and weird to them but in a kindof fun novel way.
>>541906109I didn't write proof. And I replied because it's a bit annoying seeing it spammed like that, making the meme itself false. If both parties are shouting a lot, so to say, then it's no longer the case that one party comes with a rare remark once in a while and the other keeps shouting a lot, like the meme portrays.And then there were Discord messages posted by Shodanon or something.It seems a bit like if there are schizos, then it's at least both Shodanon and his detractors, and possibly more.Throwing stones and glass houses and that kind of stuff.
>>541907157Why are you setting him up for failure? Do you hate him this much?
>>541906969I can't be bothered to read your post, but if someone paid $50 to a blackmailer, what would prevent the blackmailer from next requiring $10,000? And next ten-fold that?Sorry, you sound more and more like a mobster.I recently read that many prison inmates are online inside their prisons on PCs or laptops, starting online businesses, including software development. And in prison, they have oceans of time. How many work as moderators or game developers? How many maintain Discord servers?
I plan on showing my face on my next devlogIs it a bad idea?
>>541906226Man, lots of bad advice in this place. Not surprising, I assume most people here are losers.Women love guys who talk a lot. If you "talk like a girl" you'll make women wet all the time bc they're always do frustrated and disappointed that men are so quiet and "stoic". It's ironically effortless, supremely easy to make women soaked in just the first few minutes of talking to them. It's been that way my entire life simply because I'm not like most men. Of course I have tons of other positives so this might be the chad celebrity "just go talk to her" meme where it's true for me but not for others. However, I don't think that's the case at all since she already agreed to a date with you. That shows she is interested already, or at least bored or seeking validation of some kind.Women like guys who>Talk a lot>Share their thoughts & feelings>Have long hair like a girl>Look like a girl with feminine faces. Notice how women got soaked by Legolas, not Aragorn, when the LOTR trilogy first came out. Women only talked about how unbelievably hot the hyper feminine looking Orlando Bloom was. None of them even saw Viggo Mortensen even if they thought Aragorn was hot too.All that meme shit of being sensitive and all that is 100% true.Now, here is where a lot of men struggle when they try to open up.Women also like guys who>Don't have creepy thoughts & feelings>Don't have selfish asshole thoughts & have the wrong feelingsIf your true soul is riddled with a lust to see pain and violence, you talk in length about how smart Alex Jones is, lecture them on abortion rights, and immediately start attacking them the moment they don't smile in response "Why do I even have to pay for your meal? Are you some cheap whore? I'm not into cheap whores. You know what this date is over goodbye." before she even has time to reply, then you're fucked and really should remain silent. Except she's gonna dump you anyway so you should just be your normal self.
>>541908004>this week in>Advice From The Opposite Universe
>>541903150I'm not mad that people don't pay me because I largely understand that a lot of my failings were my own fault though...
>>541907783>I can't be bothered to read your post, but if someone paid $50 to a blackmailer, what would prevent the blackmailer from next requiring $10,000? And next ten-fold that?You just don't pay anything after the $50. Even if there's only a 10% chance they just accept it, that's better than nothing for someone who makes 6-7 figures. $50 is like a cheap cup of coffee to someone making programmer salary.Besides, the indian deserves the reward either way bc he outplayed you. I am sorry but if you're out manuevered by some third worlder you really don't deserve that $50 and they absolutely do. In fact they should probably take your job over and you should do a Change Places switcharoo bc how the fuck did you get outplayed by a third worlder who can't even speak english.
>>541907894very bad idea. the devlog too.
>>541908004there's nothing sensitive or talkative about legolas. he's stoic and mysterious and exotic and doesn't say much and isn't all lovey dovey like aragorn. you just got distracted by the beards instead of watching their actual behavior and personalities.
>>541908004I'm a bald, muscly guy with a beard and women love me. Don't act like a girl, a girl is going out with you: a man, because she wants to go out with a man.
>>541907894Ask branno
>>541906226If she asks what you like to do for fun mention that you like developing games and that you're working on one right now. If she asks more about it answer her questions, but just leave it at that. Definitely talk about it, it's an interesting hobby that not many people participate in. Just don't talk about it the whole time.
>>541908878a girl is going out with him because she wants to go out with him. so whatever he looks like it's what she wants.
>>541906376>>541906647kill yourself
>>541897983Bros, are we the inner inner circles?
>>541908878Post callouses with thread in the background
>>541908004...gamedev?
>>541899207don't crab me like that, anon
>>541908334>You just don't pay anything after the $50.Go away, blackmailer.
>>541908816>there's nothing sensitive or talkative about legolas.Jfc your reading comprehension skills are so fucking terrible, no wonder women hate you and you're alone.I essentially said women like two things>Guys who talk like girls>Guys who look like girlsLegolas made women wet bc he looked like a girl. It wasn't his personality. It was him being a fucking elf, you illiterate retard.
>>541906376Life yourself
>>541909606
>>541909627Oh yea, sorry. I just couldn't handle the bad dating advice. I want anon to be successful tonight. He should mention his game if it's important to him. You'd be surprised how much women respect passion and ambition, plus it lets you know straight away if they're gamers too. Which is a huge plus. I'd never date a woman if she didn't play games with me.Anyway, I finally found the image I was referring to here >>541903319
>>541907328Okay, I misunderstood. My bad.>And then there were Discord messages posted by Shodanon or something.>It seems a bit like if there are schizos, then it's at least both Shodanon and his detractors, and possibly more.The board archives bring up a couple mentions of the guy in those screenshots over the years, so he seems real enough at least.
>>541901769Precious
>>541909885>I essentially said women like two thingsand you were wrong on both counts.the women you talked to liked Legolas because the actor was handsome and was in his early 20s when LOTR was filmed. Viggo Mortensen was in his 40s, a middle aged man.
>>541868927Gameplay is the same as it used to be but less features right now
>>541909503You talk like a JRPG villain there is no way you've ever gotten laid
>>541910325>404 callouses not foundyou must have a great skincare routine if you could get muscular without getting callouses.
anyone making a game here?
DamnHas one progress post been made the entire thread?
>>541910586There's a yellow spot under each of my fingers. I'm just white so it's hard to see, which isn't a problem you'd know about Pajeet
ain't no way lil blud thinks we make games here :skull:
dating is a game
>>541910325There's no fucking way you're muscular my skeletal hands have more calluses on the backside from construction work than you have on the palm side.Post physique, you're soft
>>541910339I think some days or weeks ago, a Discord screenshot was posted, apparently by Shodanon himself.Though as I remember, the Discord message sent to Shodanon was also deranged.I don't trust any of them, neither the Peripeteia developers, their fans, or their detractors.
>>541910874TRVKE
Bros I just learned that Steam promotes games that aren't mine, and that games I don't like have wide appeal...Shit is so fucked... I hope Gaben dies for this...
>>541911651>this is muscular by modern /agdg/ standards GRIM
I can't wait 'til demo day so I can debut my awesome new game for you all to play.
>>541911451So you have successfully sculped your entire persona around tricking women into sleeping with you, now what?
>>541911771>the least dysphoric fit tranny
>>541911792I can't wait for demo day because my game sucked last demo day and now it's good
>>541910808this is amateur nodev general
>>541910808this is pua general
>>541868420It stands for Neo Hong Kong, but I also thought of Welcome to the NHK after I put the emblem on lol.It'll be in Tamabuki for next DD. I'm whipping up animations as we speak.>>541868530Thank you. I'm actually just moving the top vertices of the piston along its axis so the texture gets squashed but I don't think anyone will notice...>>541871079If you just want it to the stage it is now (modeled, textured, and rigged with no animations) I would guess you'd be charged around ~$500-$1,000 (I haven't done many commissions myself, so don't fully trust these numbers; could be lower, could be higher). That number also depends on if you have a design fleshed and ready or if you're relying on the artist to come up with something for you.
I'm tired of FOSS gamedev.Will install windows and use propietary tools today.
I'm going to make a 2D platformer
>>541911651>I'm a bald, muscly guy with a beard
>>541911116That's a very nice UI, is this yours?
>>541912927with an animal character?
>>541913048No it's going to be an anime MILF
>>541912927DO NOT MAKE A PLATFORMER!!!!DO NOT MAKE A PLATFORMER!!!!DO NOT MAKE A PLATFORMER!!!!
>muh moneh
>>541912838I don't believe that you are a man. You are at best a teen, at worst some woman LARPing. The clue is your disdain for men.
>>541913234damn 4x games be bussin fr
>>541912927>>541913234Platformers are the most oversatured genre AND the least desired genre of all gamedev. (Match 3's perform better on Mobile than Steam).And this was all true 10 years ago. It's only WORSE today.SUPPLY is maxed out.DEMAND is almost null.DONOTMAKEPLATFORMERS
>I'm going to make a 2D platformer
>>541913146salarywoman shi, finally.
>>541913445When are the zukjeets going to sleep? It's already 1am in mumbai. redeem the sleep saar.
>>541913445Could be worse, you could be making a VR game.
>>541912927With lolis?
>>541913234where are metroidvanias on this graphic?
>>541913431I have disdain for all humans of every group, equally. You're all a different species to me.>Gender>Race>NationalityAll idiotic social constructs retarded people use to... jfc I don't even know why you even buy into this shit. It's so obnoxious and braindead. My greatest failing is that I share the same DNA as you people. I wish I were an alien, but alas I am some mutant freak variant of a human because my brain functions slightly higher than you animals.
>>541913648kill yourself
>>541912838fucking hell if you're gonna post off topic this much at least make it readable, you are not this kind hearted individual at all, you're an obstinate pompous fuck up his own shaven ass (no offense pal)
>>541913704Don't respond to it.
>>541913759i'll respond if I so choose. Are you it?
i just played sinisistar 2 and it's 2D. not really a platformer but you can jump. it was kino
>>541913959yes
>>541913648live yourself
>>541911451personally she let me hit because i am redpilled on misandry and one of the good ones
>>541913936Don't feed the trolls, why do I have to say it out loud? Jesus.
>>541913648i look like this
>>541914351this you? >>541912838
wow now I'm demoralized about my 2D platformer.
>>541914472make it 4d
could it be that most platformers are actually just shit?
>>541913648Carol...
>>541914472Follow your dreams and never give up
>>541894385>>541894664>>541894697>>541895921>>541896424reminder
>>541914918Most platformers are just unoriginal. The genre has been around since the 80s and it's been beat to death. They all have the same controls, the same puzzles, and the same enemies.
>>541915050this looks like the progression of an animator than a gamedev
>>541914196kill yourself
>>541915462I love myself tho.
I ran out of ideas.
>>541915541>>541915462
>>541915350who the fuck wants originality in games? just make a slightly better version of my favorite games.
>>541915950pong but you move left and right
2D platformer with no jumping mechanics
>>541915975I love myself and I am the best.
I'm going to combine 2D platformer and turn based strategy
>>541916280kill yourself, pedodev
>>541915050What's the name of this game? Can't find it anymore.
Why does this unity version have <metal> in the tab after the version? >>541780432
>>541916442I'm not a pedo I'm the one saying you shouldn't respond to the pedos because they are trolls baiting you.
>>541916637https://store.steampowered.com/app/1383660/Guinea_Pig_Parkour/
pong but you're the sun deflecting falling space debris back out of your solar system while trying to avoid hitting your planets as they orbit you
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3554680/Legends_of_Old/>game starts out as a single player EQ/MMO type thing>at some point the dev shifts the focus entirely and patches it into something that's essentially a different game>now it's a coop dungeon crawler/instance runnerWhy would you do this? I'm guessing he saw Attuned and that other game trying to do the coop WoW instance game and tried to cash in on it but why would he butcher an existing game to do that. What could possibly drive a dev to do that. It makes it even worse that the old version seems to have been kinda cool and this new version just sucks.
Why is the Discord so utterly bad at mathematics and economics? If Canadian dollars goes from being bought at 2 CAD/US, to 3 CAD/US, then it has lost value relative to the US dollar. For instance, if it went to 10000 CAD/US, and CAD did not change in purchasing power internally in Canada, then average US citizens could live like millionaires or billionaires in Canada. One US citizen could spend a single US dollar to get 10000 CAD.Or are they just pretending?
>>541917090Thanks.
>>541913024yep
>>541916816>>541916442
>>541913743>you're an obstinate pompous fuck up his own shaven ass (no offense pal)no offense taken. i wasnt bragging, just stating facts based on what the world labels me as. youre just confused bc you lack the confidence to recognize the difference between confidence and cockiness. I have had ppl like you tell me after years of thinking I was arrogant, they realized I was just confident and they couldnt see it bc they lacked any themselves.
>>541917704this seems like the kind of game that insym and other horror streamers would love
>>541917304In 2009 I said indies should make local coop versions of famous MMOs that died or even WoW. Easy millions. I saw ppl remake DAoC landscapes in Crysis engine, but otherwise nothing. It finally happened and no one ever told me. Man. I'd have bought this immediately upon seeing it. Discoverability really is bad for Steam now.
>>541915050>11 years on Steam>16k wishliststhis guy must really like guinea pigs
>>541911116Milojko is such a funny name, like for a Serbian peasant with 4 teeth.
>>541917704I don't really understand how it works, but that looks very pleasant to watch.
>>541918128>sees procgen social media>thinks horrornot at all what im going for but i guess that makes sense
>>541917789t. actual pedo poster
>>541918152yep I was right.1.4 million revenue after steamcut.
>>541918684false, kill yourself pedodev
>>541918152Oh yeah I'm surprised it took this long for it to start happening. It's a great niche to aim for but I just don't get why the dev would butcher his existing game for it. You'd expect it to be a separate game mode or a new spinoff game with the same assets. I think the spinoff would have made more sense as he could've marketed it better. Based on reading the reviews he scrapped the single player open world version of the game entirely.>>541918718This gotta be one of the ugliest syntylikes and it still did so well. Kinda amazing how much people want these sorts of games.
>>541918613>red and black colors>not horror
>>541918843You're the pedo and seething because I know you're feeding off the reactions here.
Miside players by countryChina ~ 37.8%Russia ~ 14.8%US ~ 9.8%others: ~ 37.6%How did they manage to tap into the Chinese market? Not many indie games have a mostly Chinese player base
>>541918608>I don't really understand how it worksif you mean gameplay... it's basically just a procgen tech demo at this point.if you mean something specific technically i'd be happy to explain anything.
>>541918718I have been in gamedev since 2009. I have no games. 16 years and nothing to show for it but the skills and over 10 abandoned projects. I quit my job last year to live off savings and havent even opened a game engine. I have 2 assets for the game after a year and a half. My partner who does all the art refuses to ever work. This kills my motivation even when it is huge and I am banging ready to finally make something small.I fear it will end up 20 years, no game, and I will become homeless.I have devoted my entire life to gamedev. I have reduced scope over 10 times. Ironically if I had stuck with my grand epic 2009 MMO I would have released it by now. But I paused ot to reduce scope. Over and over. I think I might need to consider giving up bc my artist refuses to ever draw anything despite also being in the same boat of homelessness looming in a few years...I cannot do art though. That is why artist is so required. And theyre amazingly skilled. AAA quality work. But just wont work no matter what I do bc theyre always sick or "busy" or make some exhausting excuse.but my time to make some ascii deep roguelike dwarf fortress rimworld type game is gone. My years are now too limited. The scope of no art games is gone now. I need art now to compete or else I wont make any money. I dont have the years left to make a DF style programmer content no art game worth buying. I dont have the years to learn to draw either.
>>541864752just had a disgusting shift at ER came back home and found the shitty bug i seethed about since saturday feel so irrelevant, be thankful you're healthy and safefygoon was right btw
>>541919063>>541918843
>>541919762dude, just give me the big mac.
>>541919762post your 10 unfinished prototypes or this never happened
>>541919928Nice to know I'm not the only hospital worker here
>>541919730That's nifty. >>541919762If true, I think you really need to ditch the artist. Maybe consider using edited AI art?
>>541920192I wont work at mcdonalds. I am a highly educated and skilled gamedev and programmer, along with another degree too. I could get a good paying wagie job. But I have worked for myself my entire life. I have never had a boss I didnt like and work with bc I loved it. I always had options.But all I ever wanted to do was make games. Good games.I am not asking for help. I am deeply ashamed. I am not lazy in any other area of my life. I even whipped.myself up into shape and discipline. Weeks went by clocking in my 40 working on my game. But then my partner would stop. Wife get sick for weeks. Raise children alone while they scream in my ear just trying to put in my 40. Soon months pass and I have my minimums done and reached my maximums a few weeks too. But my artist has drawn only 1 thing in that time. 1 thing. Always sick. Always an excuse.I dont have enough money to pay for art. I need that money to pay the bills for the next few years. If I used money to hire an artist even on the cheap I would be homeless before I finished MY work.It is all my fault though. I should have fired my artist and best friend. Gave up on our dream we shared. And just done something on my own years ago. Or never reduced scope. Never stopped my original dream which is now gone. Faded into nothing.AND MY PEER GAMEDEVS? THEY REAP MILLIONS DOING THE IDEAS I HAD 20 YEARS AGO. IDEAS I DIDNT WANT TO DO MYSELF BC IT WASNT MY DESIRE.Pride.Pride is my downfall.Ego.I had to be perfect. Only serve the best games. So I have NOTHING. And I fear I will lose everything. My home. My wife. My kids. My job satisfaction ajd self employed bliss. My freetime. All bc no one takes it seriously but me. And I made all the wrong decisions to "reduce scope". Over. And Over.
>>541921161im not reading that, but yeah thats cool.
is the shadow stalker dev here or is he a perma-discord fag now?
>>541911451>there are some women who like fat guys>therefore you should be fatretarded logic.
>>541920840>If true, I think you really need to ditch the artist. Maybe consider using edited AI art?A.I. is slop.I do not have the money to pay an artist.I do not have the time left (the money) to learn to draw myself.I do not have the time left to make a low art / no art game that will guarantee financial success.But yes. I should have fired my best friend a year ago. Told her our dream is done bc she wont work.I am cooked.I refuse to use A.I. slop when I had the opportunity for AAA art.I told you Pride is my downfall.
>>541921298>>541883081
>>541921298did you read the thread you drooling retard?>>541883081
>>541919762didn't ask
>>541919762>I have devoted my entire life to gamedevYou claim this but you haven't even made a game. How can you say you've devoted yourself to something you haven't even done? It's like a virgin saying they devoted their live to having sex.
>>541921486>herfound the problem
Things achieved today:- sleep for 8 hours- go to gym- hit my macros- work on my game for at least 3 hours- don't look at ex-girlfriend's instaThings NOT achieved today:- stop lying about having had girlfriends
>he doesn't know
>>541919762your artist doesn't want to do any work for you because he knows you won't do any of the work on your sideif you really wanted to make games you'd make them with assets available online or with capsules and cubes or you would've learn to do art yourselfeverything in your post is just a massive cope because you refuse to accept responsibility for your failure
>>541921280It doesnt matter if you read it or not. With the internet being how it is, so fully censored, I can not speak anywhere online so no one will ever miss me bc no one can ever hear me.And with real life being as adhd riddled as it is? The same. 99% of humans cannot even listen past your first 4 words even if they wanted to. And they dont want to. Bc you have nothing to say bc were all too exhausted from work and life to be interesting anymore.So I will go out the way I came in. Completely unknown, capable of making amazing games that change the landscape but incapable of any fruition so capabilty is just vanity.And only I am to blame.
>>541921331>Most american men are fat and unfitI said do the OPPOSITE of most men. Not be just like them. But again physical stuff isnt important if you have a good personality. Women would fuck a fish if it had a good personality.
>>541921985anon don't do it, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem
>>541874675looks like tales of androgyny artist
My megaman X-like made by vibecoding for 2 months in love2dhttps://phfranqueira.itch.io/dash-to-the-west
>>541877025imagine getting mogged by the hidden and its variants spending years on something that looks like this
>>541922367Nice but why didnt't you use Defold if you gonna use lua
good morning sirs :)
shadow stalker dev PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD tell me HOW MANY COPIES SELLERDED NOW THIS TIME PLEASE I PROMISE I WILL LEABE REVIEW LETER shadow stalker dev PLEse
>>541921649Dont worry anon, this will be you in 10 years. You reap then what you sow today.>>541921969>your artist doesn't want to do any work for you because he knows you won't do any of the work on your sideUm no. I put in over 200 hours the past month. I have to tell her directly and personally to work. She put in 16 total the entire month even after I kept saying she HAS to work or we will become homeless. She has to work even if she is dying of the flu. Still no work bc sick. Sick for years ofc. And when not sick some vital event happens that is super important like a funeral or family crisis.>if you really wanted to make games you'd make them with assets available online or with capsules and cubes or you would've learn to do art yourselfI did do this. Many times. And I have made games with full art and gameplay. Just "paused" them to reduce scope. Over and over. And now taking that advice has doomed me. Any past game if I didnt pause to reduce scope, would be finished by now. Any of them.>everything in your post is just a massive cope because you refuse to accept responsibility for your failureYou really are retarded. In all 3 walls of post I said the only person to blame is me and my pride and ego.
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>>541922367https://store.steampowered.com/app/3098140/Crown_and_Adventure/now compare it to chinese vibe coder project
>>541922895is this true or is this some nazi incel chud /agdg/ poster nazi impersonation shadow stalker dev?
>>541922938holy kinoi had a dream where you go from octopath style sprites isometrically, all the way down, you kind of ZOOM into a first person perspectiveso you could travel around in fps mode as well as overhead
I was warned for off-topic! The pedo troon is seething so hard he is reporting my posts!
Oh nonono crab bros...
I fucking hate dealing with angles. When they're floats, the wrapping around always fucks it all up, and if I try to use the functions that "account for it" like angle_difference(), it just messes it up even more because it insists on making a range from -pi to +pi that isn't aligned to any global reference, for some reason.I try to use vector directions for everything, but this time even that isn't working. It's so simple but it just doesn't work. How long will this hold me up for... it's been weeks already.
>>541922814if your partner is not working out right now, it's not gonna change in the future, grab one of those paused projects and finish it yourself, unless you have a million dollar idea that forces you to start from scratch, either way, better stop lamenting the past and start working with what you have
>>541922151I dont see how I can progress.Best case scenario, I fire my artist. I start a solo project. I get 2 years to make a financially successful game with no art. DF takes a decade. ASCII games dont sell. 4x need art. VN are for amazing writers.I'd need an idea I can do solo. But even then I am giving up a huge part of my soul. To make something financially viable with limited time and skill, means no dreams. It means grueling work not inspiring meaningful progress. All while I am essentially a depressed single parent 80% of the time.It does appeal to me ofc. It is better than working at the programmer version of McDonalds for some boss I hate. Maybe it is the answer. But I'd need a viable financially guaranteed idea.I would actuall make a singleplayer EQ game but nope. Too late for those now. A year ago I couldve.Part of me resents my artist for stealing a year and a half from me. But part of me knows I am the only one to blame for my failures.
>>541923353I don't understand your problem. Just use radians and don't try to "wrap around" whatever that means.
>>541922814absolutely retarded
>>541922541the game had a 4 players 24 hours peak according to SteamDB.just 16 more people and he will be able to recoup the 100$ necessary to publish the game, after that it gets easier.
>>541923430>grab one of those paused projects and finish it yourselfThe assets are unfinished and I have no artist to finish them. I guess I can look into what maybe I could learn myself? I did do a few pixel art games. Maybe if I learned for 6 months real hard I could draw....oh who am I kidding? Soon A.I. will be able to do way better than anything I couldake even after years of training. I am not an artist.Maybe I can use A.I. afterall. Make a game using A.I. cutouts or something. And tag is as A.I. and just hope that doesnt cripple sales right out the gate....
>>541922814>herlmao
>>541923491I have two pieces, and I want to attach one to another. I have the midpoint and normals of each end, so I rotate the added one and translate it by the difference in their midpoints, but sometimes it's rotated the right direction and other times it's in the opposite direction. var rx:float = angle_difference(next_normal.angle(), prev_normal.angle()) exit_piece.global_rotation = rx exit_piece.update() var tx:Vector2 = prev_midpoint - next_midpoint exit_piece.translate(tx) exit_piece.update()
>>541922660never heard of it, but as I saw on the site, it uses an IDE? I went with love2d because it's pure text.Claude4 made my own room maker easily, that was nice!
>>541923863word on the street is that other people have gotten away with using AI and editing it to make it look human made, I'd wager it would be even easier if it's pixel art
>>541923590Yea he is. It's unfathomable how someone could read>Only I am to blame>It is all my fault and my fault alone>I alone causes my downfall. Only me.And conclude I'm not accenting responsibility for all my repeated stupid decisions to abandon projects repeatedly "just to get something out there" and to trust someone for a year who refuses to take the project seriously despite the threat of homelessness.
>>541923252ACK!
>>541923967Create a transform struct that stores position, rotation and possibly scale if you need that. Each object would have its own transform and if you attach an object to another, you would have a hierarchy of objects and the final transform would be the sum of the previous transforms for each object in the hierarchy.
>>541923943I dont get this? youre the second anon? I am autistic or maybe just really naive. What does being female have to do with it? I am so depressed I am open minded at this point so plz explain.
>>541922367how does this vibecoding work exactly?
>>541923750massive cope
>>541924151you pretend to be blaming yourself but you're blaming your artist
>>541924320>massive not being able to detect sarcasm
>>541924103Dont they risk being banned from Steam for not tagging it as A.I.? I feel as though by the time I get it down, thats 6-12 months I dont have just getting the art pipeline down and generating/editing it all.
>>541924297but how do I find the radian value that would rotate one normal to equal the other normal? That's my problem here.
>>541924030Yes it has an editor, but is much more advanced and modern than love2d if you like lua, it has 3D too but lacks the qol of godot/unityhttps://x.com/defold/status/1975891019414814753
Do you guys have any games that you find inspiring?
>>541924496bunch of games getting away with it for now
>>541924349Ah, you're retarded brain cant handle anything not ultra simplified. American hours. My bad.Yes I am blaming my artist for the last year alo g with myself for trusting her.For the other 15 years I am blaming only myself. Only me exclusively.
>>541924496I have no idea, but also I expect ai art to get more accepted as time goes on, after all it's just a tool
>>541924547Create a global coordinate axis object and you calculate your angle relative to that, then apply rotation of the same angle to the other object?
>>541924581Yeah.
>>541924465vocaroo next time if you wanna act like a meangirls gossiper in thread
>>541924673Do you have an examples of good ai art in games? 100% of what ive seen is worse than the ugliest daz model Spiderweb Software placeholder art.
>>541924581MGS1 was so ahead of its time. It's more like a movie but instead it's live-action and it was made for a platform that has 2MB of RAM.
>>541923750>just 16 more people and he will be able to recoup the 100$ necessary to publish the gamefygoon was right this thread is full of nodevsdo you think you get paid at 100$ on steam? lol, lmao even
nta but in a similar sitch. my wife is always sick or disabled and we have kids. im a single parent alot too and struggle to find any time to dev when shes sick. which is like every day. we dont even talk or fuck anymore bc she is always sick sleeping. Any advice on how to dev as a single parent struggling just to get by?
>>541924724speak plain english engine-fag, I don't know math.
>>541925180Calculate angle relative to Vec2[1, 0] - Rotate the other angle by that calculated angle.
>>541924581Why didn't he just tell Snake that Snake is a clone designed to die young and the fox die virus would only make him die even younger? All this could have been avoided.
You Don't Need a Hook.
You don't need a tapping sign.
You Don't Need a Game.
>>541924909>do you think you get paid at 100$ on steam? lol, lmao evenWhat's wrong with thinking that?
>>541919762>I quit my job last year to live off savings and havent even opened a game engineyou have way bigger holes to fill than having no game. Your soul is crying our for something, and it's not a steam game with your dev name on it
>>541924496It happened with Liar's Bar. They used AI voice and didn't disclose it. Valve came forward and told them to do it, and if you oblige you'll be fine.So worst case scenario you'll be forced to add the AI disclosure label but Valve won't do anything else.
>>541923967what is this even for
>>541924659have you tried making a game instead of wallowing in self pity?
You don't need (You)'s.
>>541923967>godotngmi
>>541925597
>>541926049making curvy tunnels that branch and combine>>541926298>enginefagging ngmi
Instead of buying bouhgting buyering Shadow Stalker, and reviewing it to boost the algo, /agdg/ decided to shit on the dev... Very nice of you,, CUNT FAGGOTS
I'm ngmi.
>>541924312instead of writing code, i prompt an ai step-by-step what i want to developif you ask for something big, the ai allucinates and deliver slop. But with small steps it can be very precise.>>541924564Yeah, but the whole idea is going IDE free, so I use Visual Studio and Copilot Pro only. I'm testing this workflow to be exact, and the results are good so far.
>>541926347If your products have sales for the prior month and have exceeded the minimum $100 threshold, Valve will issue payment via Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT). We send ACH payments to US based banks and USD SWIFT wires for banks located outside of the US.
That's it, enough cunnyposting. Time to make some progress.
>>541926806has to be trolling 100-100=?
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>>541927021Explain what is wrong with thinking >>541925597
>>541926927>>541927112kill yourself
Still struggling to focus if anons can weigh in that have gone through this. I think I get decent sleep, job is stupid but easy, I eat pretty well and I'm lean though I don't work out. I've banned myself off 4chan except for 20 mins a day, I've quit weed, don't drink as much coffee, I read a bit in the morning and evening... you're telling me I still have to go through that huge monumental slog of starting? And forcing myself back on the seat when I get easily frustrated? The motivation doesn't just strike me like a line of cocainum and gets me going, no discipline necessary?? this SUCKSI envy but also respect all you yesdevving anons. I need to start paying someone to manage me and I'm not even kiddingRant over I'll go read more docs
I think some of you guys just need to go outside, have a good scream, and then GET TO WORK ON YOUR GAME
>outsideThe fuck is that?
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>>541919762>since 2009>hasn't learned to make artwhat the hell man you had time
>>541924304anon will never answer you bc he is just hateful of women for not sleeping with him. it has nothing to do with anything but anons hangups about dating and being lonely.
>>541925792>you have way bigger holes to fill than having no game. Your soul is crying our for something, and it's not a steam game with your dev name on itlike what then? pretty sure its all just my game. Coming up 20 years no accomplishments when it's your dream is a pretty big hole for most ppl.>>541926076Yes. Over 10 games. You cant read bc youre retarded i guess.
I've only been working on my game for like 4 months and it's coming along nicely. No prior gamedev experience.
>>541928334may I see it?
>>541927807I did but I worked with artists most of that time so it was never a need. I was everything else but artist on every project I worked on. Worked with great art too. Each project closing was all my choice to "reduce scope" in order "to get a game out and finally have something finished".the irony is torturous
how the hell does this get a daily deal?https://store.steampowered.com/app/360450/Kiai_Resonance/
>>541928416then start now. pick up a pencil.
>>541928206you apparently resent your artist gf and you're on the brink of homelessness. I'll guess money is low and so you haven't been socialising enough or getting to think about anything else or having fun. The stress is slowly eroding you and there doesn't seem to be a way outFinishing a game will only worsen those symptoms and won't even fix much except giving you a sense of accomplishmentGood luck, god bless.
Does anyone think I could make a single-player EQ clone and still be successful?
>>541926765Never change aggydaggy
>>541928601I don't know you.
>>541928523You really are retarded. I already made it clear before I can even produce good art or even bad art I would run out of money. I only have time to make the game not learn to draw. I likely dont even have time to do both even if I was already pro.
>>541926927kanna...
>>541928586>you apparently resent your artist gf and you're on the brink of homelessness. I'll guess money is low and so you haven't been socialising enough or getting to think about anything else or having fun. The stress is slowly eroding you and there doesn't seem to be a way out>Finishing a game will only worsen those symptoms and won't even fix much except giving you a sense of accomplishment>Good luck, god blessI am confused here bc the first half is very astute and accurate. Then you drop off a cliff in my understanding bc youre saying the thing that would fix all my issues wouldnt fix my issues?a released game means money to keep making more games. it also means no resentment towards artist gf anymore bc that wouldnt matter anymore. and it would solve homelessness.How would solving my single problem "worsen symptoms"???
>>541928690No I am I could with my skills. But could it sell? Obviously graphics rarity with 1999 retro style.
>>541888890becky....
>>541926927kys pedophile
>>541928865>You really are retarded.maybe. but i've actually finished and released games.
>tranime everywhere
>>541890442um sweetie they're called influencers for a reason. now why does a socially stunted individual think that he can comment on the state of society and social media? don't you know that you will think nothing and be happy
>>541929478Yes but that doesnt hurt me like you think while grinning bc I'd rather release 0 games in 20 years than to release 100 slop games no one cares about that arent worth developing.When I say I have no game, it's a convo about real games. Good games. Games worth making. If I wanted I could flood the market with asset flips or platformers. That is degrading tho.
My advice to younger anons is that you should never mix gamedev with the thing that pays your rent and food.Get an easy job like night watchmen that let you have enough free idle time and gamedev with a laptop.Otherwise, just gamedev on your free time.But never, never, make gamedev how you pay your rent and buy food.
>>541929167the act of trying to finish your game, which so far has not been working out, is going to continue to break you down even moreand once (or if) you finish it, it won't be for much gain at all
My advice is to stay the hell away from gamedev and instead just shitpost in this thread every day until you die
>>541929704my previous game made enough money for me to continue devingmy current game is in alpha and the demo gets 100+ downloads a dayi'm not even amazing or special. you just need to make stuff and release it. you are in your current state because you think nothing will ever be good enough.
>>541894385>it doesnt make sense because ive never replied to him or even mentioned him in a postnow you know why. you might consent to posting on 4chan, other anons might even go out on a limb and consent to you posting on 4chan, but there is someone you forgot to ask
>>541930150tokdev is that you
>>541929704>I'd rather release 0 gameswelcome to agdg
also, the act of releasing a game that's bug free and playable is like 90% of the work. if you've never done that i'd say you can't even call yourself a gamedev in the first place.
>>541895445they sit in the middle with all the peices of cake while we are on the outside with no cake looking in. but then there is a group of people even further out than us looking in on us as if we ourselves were part of that inner circle. we call them the outer circle aka the beta orbiter nodevs
My advice is to rebuild the Tower of Babel so that you can go to God's bedroom and beat the shit out of him.
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>>541930245no
1D procedural top down skibidivaniayay or nay?
>>541931086>>541931086>>541931086
>>541919762>My partneryea
>>541929957>millions of dollars in revenue>or at least 6 figures and be your own boss forever making whatever you want>not for much gain at allOh, I see. You're confused. I am talking about good games. Anything that isnt total garbage guarantees 6 figures. No one has ever shown me a single game that failed to make a great salary that wasn't utter garbage like a platformer or programmer art garbage with 2hr gameplay priced at $60+$15/subscription.
>>541919762reinstalling godot, downloading from opengameart and failing to implement a basic controller for 16 years before you go back to jerking off is not devoting your lfie
>>541928432They changed daily deals to show more niche games earlier this yearIf you have a steamworks account you get emails about this kind of thing
