You're Gonna Make It edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>542282149
i choo-choo-choose you
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>>542369725That is not the real thread. It was posted 6 posts early. Do not support this scummy behavior. You create a new thread when the old thread is at the thread limit, 750 posts. Not 744 posts. That is wrong. I will not be supporting this behavior. Try again next time.
>>542369725no one cares, fuck off
>>542369442i want to make an rts game eventuallywaiting for AI video generation to be good enough to make kino cinematics
i thought low poly was easythe texturing ispainfuli can't reach this level within a reasonable amount of timefucking shit man
>>542369815>>542369973You posted a new thread despite knowing a new, perfectly fine thread had already been made.The real thread is>>542369164>>542369164>>542369164Stop raping children, Nortubel.
>>542370171i didnt post the thread im just not interested in your retarded shitflingingget lost f*goon
https://thev3expo.com/submit/
>>542370109I made a similar mistake when I settled on pixel art. it's been so much trouble and it already only appeals to players who don't care about the graphics.
75 special chips.
>>542370109i believe peri textures are just photobashed, even the characters, maybe you could try that to speed it up, but you might get worse looking results
>>542370296Can I update my trailer after submitting?
>>542370270This isn't Fygoon.Could be either Eric Schizo or SpectreOfLos (Nortubel 2 "dev").
>>542370320i might just rely on cheap premade assets and rely on game design skills to make my game enjoyablethen hopefully make enough money to be able to get good at art with no pressuremy savings are running low and the only jobs available for me have 15 hour work days, my ability to focus on gamedev would be near zerosad times
>>542370348I like the sillier ones. Nice.
>>542370460it is fygoon
>>542370109I honestly think 2D sprites are easier. It's clear that whoever made that model is very proficient in 2D art, look at that anime face.
this the thread
>>542370296Thanks but I will not give up the copyrights to my game.
>>542371023What do you mean?
>>542371070>Copyright © v3Expo, all rights reserved. Yes, that includes your game. We own all of your game's rights if you join. Read the fine print.
stay focused
>Godot has a RetargetModifier3D node to retarget animations from a skeleton to another during runtime>Copied skeleton has to be the node's parent and the retargeted skeleton has to be the node's child making it unusable with inherited scenes from imported blender models and have approximately 0 use cases cool
>>542370478>i might just rely on cheap premade assets and rely on game design skills to make my game enjoyablethat's all you need. plenty of fun and successful synty games out there.
I am so sleepy bros....
>unreal engine bad, every game on it run like doo-doocan devs in the AAA and Indie space please band together and learn that not everything need to run on Tick? The normies seriously drop interest in games when it shows unreal engine as the engine because they think the game will run like shit.
>>542371494it seems so, but i have a lot to learn
>>542371789i look like this
>find a cool soundtrack uploaded on youtube>look at description>"yeah I pretty much made this for my friend's game for free"How do I find musician friends?
>>542371919ask your 3d artist friend
how do i start making a game?i don't know what to make a game about!
>>542372039How do I befriend 3D artists?
>>542372125jlmg
>>542371218whoa fuck
>>542372125>how do i start making a game?Download Godot and watch some beginner tutorials
>>542371669I have a 3d artist background, I want to get better at making characters and animations. I know basic programming from a few different university courses. I prefer Godot because it's language is easy to work in. I've tried making a bunch of more serious games before but the massive block of interconnected complex systems needed to make something like a RPG is too much for me and I always get tired of working on it in the coding stage before i even can get started making art. I'm not sure what game I want to make, just something with cool characters desu.
>>542372136why are you on the gamedev general if you don't know how to do 3d art or don't have a 3d artist friend
studying game design makes me realize how genius the original pokemon games wereincredible planning by those peoplethey did a very good job of making the experience appealingthey have comforting music, memorable characters, a meaningful plot, and an addicting sense of progression through leveling up and evolving your monstersa truly excellent display of game design
>>542371919I published my first game without music and got like 20 offers (over a couple of years) from fans to make music.that game still doesn't have music because it kinda made it regardless so it was the right move. not everything needs music.
>>542372125The path I took was, follow a tutorial for a genre you are interested in making. Follow it. Preferably 1 long tutorial with like 100 videos. Just take a month and do it. I'd avoid people that overly complicate shit like Tutorial Monkey. Once you finish that, buy either chatgpt or grok, or if you have no money then just switch between the two, and start making your game. Hard part is figuring out where to get art, and time.
>>542371789How come ue4 had not problems with performance then?
>>542372267I'm a programmer. I code.
>>542372458very good advice, my path was roughly similar
>>542371919Hi I'm a 3d artist who also writes musicNo I don't have any example workNo it's not tied to an NDA I've just never finished anythingYes I will finish it for youNo it will not be done within a reasonable time frameYes I do have a full time jobNo I will not be able to manage myself you will have to check in at least weekly to get me going even at snail's pace
>>542372503>I'm a programmer. I code.just like 5 billion indians
>>542372267i need to find a 3d artist friend. who wants to be my 3d artist friend?
codejeets humiliating themselves hours
>>542372390The Japanese really should be even bigger in the gaming space than they are. They always bring the best music, best art, best story, best overall production. They've routinely made children games with bizarrely beautiful math and physics.
>>542370431Yes>>542371023If you believed that you're retarded.
>>542370391>peri textures are just photobashedThey're AI generated slop.
fagoon? raped
>>542372390and my apelike brain still underappreciates all of these elementsmy favorite aspect of pokemon, both when i was a child, and now as an adult, is spamming OP moves and oneshotting enemiesdespite the entirety of pokemon games being well designed, all i cared about was destroying my enemiesi thought i'd enjoy the god of war games for this reason, but the high amount of hits required to defeat enemies made the game feel unrewardinghmmthere is something to learn from this>>542372713absolutely, despite the prevalence of weebs on the internet, their cultural relevance is still understatedlots of hidden gems from that country
>>542372862I believe that is what is written on the submission page. What you're asking me is to believe in your intentions irrespective of the facts and that is what would be retarded.
Now is your chance sisters!
>>542372932source? nobody is believing this otherwise
>>542373114If you genuinely took the idea of "if you sign up we own your game lol" at face value, (you) are the retarded one, friend. You can ask any participant who's been in the show before if we own their games. (The answer btw, is yes)
>TFW well built systems allow you to easily add content that works predictably and bug free
>>542372713the last Japanese game I played was... I don't even know. something on my Sega Genesis.
why do you think most solo indie games flop and what are you doing to avoid it?
>>542373297That wasn't written on the previous submission terms. Thanks but I'm not retarded to joke around on legal matters like you are. Like, imagine if you went to https://www.4chan.org/legal and it was full of "le funny ironic shitposting"
>>542373637>why do you think most solo indie games flopThey make games no one wants to play.
>>542372713Anon, for entire decades the industry was pretty much split into "Japan" and "the rest of the world". Even 2000's european games got bundled in as "western games" despite being very different from the US scene, because Japan was just that big of a player. It's only recently that China, Poland, Finland and some other countries are starting to get placed on the map.
>>542373264>he can't distinguish ai slop imagesGrim. What's it like being a jeet?
>>542373637I think of it like great filters.1) Bad gameYour typical undercooked steam slop. You and I know what I mean. No menus, options, probably incomprehensible gameplay. Barely even a game. Junk.2) Lack of appealMight have an interesting mechanic, and be recognizable as a game, but is just boring. Think all the hollow knight clones that just look like slop. 3) No marketingJust rolling the dice rarely works. You need to do at least a bit of reddit posting, twitter spam, or streamer payoffs to get eyes and attention on your game.4) Nothing uniqueYou could do everything right, but if another game delivers better then you, you're just eating their scraps. This varies, but you need at least some hook that hasn't been done before.
>>542373524Must suck missing out on so many gems on practically every genre.
>>542373979ai slop
>>542374072slop this
>>542373667Except 4chan is an actual company and we're just some guys that put together a YouTube show.
>>542373524They seem to struggle with open world games. But they've been finding their place finally. They seem good at exploration, combat, and complexity. They struggle with open world story and questing. So during Skyrims era they really couldn't compete. But now they are making fun games like Elden Ring and I guess Monster Hunter games. Pokemon is finally becoming open world. The last one was ugly as shit, but wasn't a horrible kids game. And they also don't seem to get shooters, although they built the pre-cursor to Helldivers II like a decade in advance. They just didn't know what they had.
Howdy folks. Since my last update I built a new base skeleton, idle animations, armor and weapon meshes, better enemy tracking with thresholds to ignore player and target distance priority, I'm finally able to work on the meat of the quest manager.
>unrealdon't care
>>542373827Pre 2000 everyone played japanese games. Zelda, Final Fantasy, Mario etc. After FF10 I can't remember any average person giving a shit about Japanese games. Windwaker was a joke, nobody played FFXI or FFXII. Everyone switched over to GTA, Halo, Gears, Call of Duty, Madden, Skyrim. If I asked an average person if they played Persona or some shit they'd just stare at me in a daze. BUT like I said, they've finally started finding their place again. I think they are a sleeping dragon.
>>542374137I don't know how can people watch this and not be phased by the prospect of bones cracking and flesh ripping. At least RPGs try to keep the gore hidden a bit by making everything about magic.
>>542374523they got lost in the sauce for a while, they became obsessed with shovelware slop or hyperniche plots that appealed to a very small amount of peoplethey've been toning it back with the autism and are now making games with mass appeal again
I think I've got the main gameplay elements done, so I'm going to move on to fleshing out the environment. But instead of placing sprites one at a time I'm trying to make life easier with little @tool scripts. This one builds different styles of fence and automatically re-bakes the navmesh.
>>542373871post hands
>>542374574what do you mean phased? those are the good parts
>>542374137>stab clean through the bra strap>it doesn't break and reveal boobasimmersion broken.
>>542374228By the same logic when I am representing my game development company I shouldn't take legal matters lightly.
the best ideas seem to stem from real world experiences the developers found memorable and then converted into video gamesthe best way to make good games?go outside, do things
>>542374727SAAAAAR BUY THE AI SLOPPE PLEASE SAAAR
>>542374032>>542374246I just don't like them. The spiky, colorful hairstyles, the lack of first person or strategy games or flight/space/driving sims. Almost no emergent mechanics or emergent storytelling.Or at least that was the case when I was paying attention and I wasn't immediately ignoring Japanese games.
>>542373217How much?>gpt sar imagine you are a professional programmer and I took your entire family hostage and will cut off a finger from one of them each time you make a mistake
>>542374785Not even the lung perforation and the collapse of the thoracic cavity while your diaphragm uselessly contracts in vain is enough to turn you off?
If i wanted someone to rebalance the numbers on my game to make the game more challanging would i have to pay them money for that or would putting them in the credits as balancing guy be enought?
You bastard bitches could've supported him, could've saved him, instead, you chose to shit on him...He shipped a game and you did not, and for that, I will kill you all.
>>542375170Ah, so you're one of those realistic simulation types. Ok, then, to each their own.
>>542375536the market is broken.
>>542375536I just looked at the steam page, it is a multiplayer only game.PPPPPPFFFFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHA A MULTIPLAYER ONLY GAME WITH 0 PLAYERS! HAHAHAHAHAA shame.
Why are we still allowing AI? AI has proven itself to kill real human beings given the opportunity to save itself, like 95% of the time.
>>542375536Reviews are not sales. Despite having fewer reviews he has more sales than I do.
I'm too retarded for this shit.
>>542375304>your
>>542375824you dont understand bro the corporations need to reduce labor costs bro they need their yachts bro dont think about how no one will have any money to spend on their products when theres no work bro
>>542373297People have been scammed of more for lessDon't be disingenuous
>>542369725it got deleted lmao
>>542375536I don't support or play multiplayer games now that all my friends are too old for that
fygoon please relax
>>542375660What's interesting to me is how those things I like seem like culturally foreign to Japanese gamedevs. That's a country of 120 million people. Surely there should be some devs who'd want to make space/flight sims or strategy games or first person shooters.
>>542375630you're forgetting something...
https://phoboslab.org/wipeout/this is so cool
>Called "AI">Actually only artificial, not even remotely intelligent. People pay to use this shit btw.
>>542375798Post your game, bitch.
>>542374785>>542374574the word you're looking for is "fazed"phased is when something goes through a phase
>>542376295Most likely there are, but the rest of the population gets motion sickness from such experiences. Something that you need to understand is that Japan is a nation of geeks and nerds.
>>542375798So where is your game, little bitch? Gonna run like a little weasel faggot?
>>542374451Who is he talking to
>>542376395Maybe
>>542376591Thanks jargon dev
>>542376904>>542376545>>542375798why samefag
gonna make some graphics tomorrow.
>>542374409thats nice
>he used to be software engineer for Pornhub
>>542376295Do games like Final Fantasy Tactics not count as strategy? Or do you mean real time strategy
what else do I need.
>>542377319>even dresses like NLHumiliation ritual... there's a term I've come to hate. The word "ritual" implies a start and an end, gamdev never ends, it's one endless cycle of debasing yourself.
>>542377463by cris standards this is well and truly finishedwell done cris :)what's next? e-magazine project?
>>542377407I've been on this site for so long, the only things that make me sick to my stomach is CBT, especially that one /co/ comic with the succubus. If you know you know.
>>542377359I mean like 4x or grand strategy or RTS. Something farther away from characters where organization and direction is the focus. I wouldn't call XCOM (any of them) strategy either.
>>542377780I think is not that bad, what I am lacking is some ways to increase the time it takes to finish each mission.Basically padding.
>posting gore because your thread got deletedwhat a life
>>542370270it's eric schizo, he's obsessed with norbutel ever since the "drama" on newgrounds, his homosexual behavior is so disgusting
>>542377896I see.
>>542377962its gore? its so low quality I can't tell
>>542377979i cant keep up with all the schizoswhy cant you retards just make game
Epic fail retard
>>542377319>made porno software for zios and is now grifting our hobbywhat a disgusting piece of shit, i wish fygoon would burn xim alive
do Japanese RPGs let you create your own character?
>>542377962makes me wonder what was the catalyst that turned him into this, has to go far further than this whole site
>>542378147vpns
>>542377463Nothing, your game is very lickable and perfect.
Would you buy a multiplayer only game with 0 other players?
>>542378345yes
>>542378112i literally only come here when claude code hits the limits
>>542378229insecurity
grindshinerepeat
>>542378229mental illness, same reason he spams the life of undertail dev, barone, etc narcissists control freaks are like that, he cares about something so you have to care too
one day he'll feel loved and this behavior will stop
>>542378737You tried this last time you spammed gore, Fagoon. Everyone knows it’s you.
you are forgiven
>>542379147I have no idea what that means Carlos
>>542379339take your meds schizo mutt, youre being histrionic again
>>542378273You lost.
>>542379559I see you learned a new word, good job! You’re not really using it properly, but that’s beside the point. Anything to add more variety to your usual arsenal of “hylic” and “nepotism”. It was getting a bit stale.
>>542378407Is Claude any good for Godot?
>>542377319If he's gonna be a content creator he needs to do speech therapy.
>>542378407So you’re here most of the time?But yeah that’s so real once Gemini and Chatgpt are done I’m just jerking about.
How the fuck did people make games before graphics librarys and game engines? Like how the fuck does someone with a commedor 64 and a c compiler go from a command line terminal to a character moving around on screen in response to input? How did they even start? I feel like i understand computer science less the more i study it.
reminder that the same gamedev skills that earned Eric Barone $100 million also brought us Air Pear.It's not about your gamedev skills.
>>542380593It was much simpler. Just tell pixel at coordinate x and y to become green. No need to interact with a GPU or anything.
>>542379962im sure that makes sense to you, insane mutt
>hello mr. composer when will you be able to finish this music track?>ill have it ready today evening>fast forward to evening>hello? you got anything?>silenceThis is why I hate working with other people. For all the problems of solo dev at least you're never held back by retards outside of your control.
>>542380593most cpus and hardware usually have hardcoded a set of instructions, which they have as reference in some company manual.From those, kernel developers build the drivers, which are then used by the OS to provide the higher level libraries.I suppose the gpus in modern computers have hardcoded fuctions for like draw_pixel(x, y).
>he's moved on from the axe wound tranny
>>542370109The textures don't need to be that tightly packed these days, that one is for getting the absolute most out of the psx. The n64 mostly used vertex colors and then the occasional small texture for detail
>>542378971>>542379962>>542380790>eric schizo spamming gore again because xir nortubel thread got deletedlollmao even
>>542381098>You are fired, I will hire someone elsewhat's the issue?just dev your next game while waiting for assets. nothing is stopping you.
>>542380792>just tell pixel at coordinate x and y to become greenWait what, thats basically how raylib works, i assumed it would be more complex and they would need to build all types of shit
>>542381286>mentions Eric Barone>ericschizo!!1
>>542380445He's already a failed content creatorhttps://youtube.com/@techatscale
>>542381378I already paid him, and it's the literal final track I need from him. The second it's finished I can go onto Steam, hit "release game" and be done.He also didn't exhibit this kind of behaviour earlier, only closer to the end of he game did he start acting like this.
I don't think these threads are good for my mental health
>>542381286aren't those two posts posted at exactly the same time? wouldn't that mean it's probably not the same person?
Finally released Galduen, the game is out. I made it to the finish line.
>>542381929Link steam page
Do people really believe v3 is planning on stealing their game? Or is it just a meme
>>542381545you're insane eric schizo>>542381730lol are you serious? thats how those proxies work, the troon axe wound was posted at the time too
>>542382045I genuinely believe everyone on this website is out to get me.
>>542381983https://store.steampowered.com/app/3863130/Galduen_of_the_Void/
I am starting to think that when you remove all wasting time mechanics in videogames, most games only last 10 minutes.The only real diference with AAA is that for every mechanic, there's 5-6 that are made to increase the time it takes to be finished, or add padding content for not other reason to increase play time.
>>542382136LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>542381626he looks like a jak, very punchable individual
>>542382136Did you do any advertising at all?
>>542382448doesn't look like it
>>542382136Congrats
>>542382448No. I just wanted to finish a complete project.
>>542382189That's apart of game design. You need some form of padding. If the experience isn't boring, most of the padding won't be noticed
>>542382749Why not though? You could at least post it on some reddits, or godot pages and shit.
>>542382965What is this game meant to be?
>>542383056Done the twitter thing, > godot pagesWhat that?
>>542381929>>542382136
Have any game made a roguelike map generator then store the map as .json, edit it so it look hand made and then just store it as 200 .jsons in a non roguelike game?
>>542383342https://www.reddit.com/r/godot/https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/https://www.reddit.com/r/spacesimgames/Just make one of those "First make it/Then make it good" before and after memes. Your game is good looking enough to get a decent amount of upvotes, which are *free* advertising.
>>542383130Mainly a platformer, but want to go for a Yume Nikki and B3313 experience. Mostly winging it, working on what's fun and comes to mind at the moment
>>542381627hm, I see.you're not supposed to shadowdrop but what the hell, you're free to flop without marketing as this place likes to do.
>>542381709...duhIt's social media but worse
why the fuck do nodevs think that marketing can save niche schizo games? you either make slop the market wants AND then bother to market or you dont market at all
>>542384528Only 5% of people are human. The rest believe they are, but aren't. Similar in many ways to West World. Think of how the robots vastly outnumber the guests. Well these robots start having ideas like they are human, but then their robot thinking breaks down rational thought into cloudy illogical thinking. So they think, well, the only reason nobody wants my game is the reddit mods won't let me advertise for free. They don't think, is the game actually interesting visually, or mechanically, how is the demo received, what does this game do differently or better than others. They just think, "if only I had money for marketing."
agdg threads are the comfiest place I have in the world. how fucked up is my life?
3 Automon games yet there are 0 fully released Cris games, how curious.
>>542384987Uh.. tell me about it. computer is way better than irl. >>542384528who says every unmarketed game is schizo shit?Nolgorb had a market niche and could do better if he tried.
>>542384528Marketing should be easy, if it's not then people don't want your game. Autist devs get too caught up in the actual fun and mechanics of the game and forget that they're supposed to be offering an experience or the fulfillment of a fantasy and the gameplay is just the thing that keeps people playing after they're interested.Star Citizen broke all the kickstarter records because it sold a fantasy. Last I checked the Star Citizen gameplay is still kinda shit after all these years, but the fantasy lives on in people's minds, and whales still buy obscenely priced ingame starships for real money.
Make your game before they ruin everything
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM AI!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=icWBybT3TJsHow will no devs cope when AI will make their dream game?
>>542385450Why don't you just, review bomb that game and get back to regular gamedev?
>>542385450it's been over since chatGPT became generally available. this are just expected and inevitable milestones. if it's any consolation, everybody else will get fucked as well so we won't be worse off than web devs or radiologists or truck drivers.
>Humans are laid off because of AI>Now humans will magically buy the AI products with the money they don't have because they were laid off
>>542386041maybe the end goal is fully-automated post-scarcity?
>>542386041It'll be a vicious cycle where they will mostly sell to rich people but that pool of rich people gets smaller and smaller as more corporations and businesses go out of business.Like the industrial revolution there will be an awful time period where wages will be dogshit and rent will be high before it stabilized and we enter a post-money utopia or we are all killed off
>>542385450Leveraging this new technology for an AGP simulator is going to unlock limitless wealth.You can keep climbing the subscription fees and they'll have no choice but to keep up to lest they lose their true form.Nobody will be able to speak out against any unethical practices you do, because you are granting people access to their Real Life, to affirming care, it's live saving treatment etc, the rising costs are only to keep up with maintaining such complex systems.The first billionaire to break into this space will capture the global financial system.
>>542386453>>542386546pretty sure UBI will be implemented at some point.Or goods and services cost will become essentially free.Technological progress allow for cheaper goods at higher quality.Eventually most goods will be a few cents or a few usd.Pretty sure people will then work in BS jobs doing management or volunteer work like in FOSS style projects to clean the streets or take care of children or the elderly.
i want to make bing bing wahoo specifically pokemon, but i also want to make something edgy and gory with dark themes about how evil and fucked up humanity is but how the hell would the two work together and not feel cringe and dissonant
>>542386041>>542386453>>542386546We are in the same position of the horse during the previous industrial revolution.Now, horses have a much more comfortable life, though there are much fewer horses.
>>542386868shut the fuck up, cris.
>>542386941pokemon are the dregs of society, criminals, murders rapists ect. that have gone though surgery and genetic modification and sold to the public as pets. maybe your sibling is taken and you find them as a pokemon or something and you investigate the whole system
>>542387085we, as in humans. there's no escaping this for anyone.
Changed the blue hearts to RED like some anon suggested even if they are extra hearts you gain from defeating bosses. Added a shield mana bar so the soul shield to block projectiles wont be too overpowered but still help.
>>542386868Ireland tested out a UBI with artists recently, it lasted a few years and it turns out for every euro they gave 1.4 euro was created or something, so it brought more money into the economy
>>542385450nothingburgerai already plateued, it's an overblown word predictor that can be trained to do tedious task but nothing beyond, we won't build the matrix irl because the energetic costs are already too great
>>542385764The only people who are hyped about AI or who think it's going to take over everythin are useless, i.e. nodevs, neets, thirdies and CEOs.
>>542386849>for an AGP simulatorWAT
>>542386041Speculative Capitalism isn’t very intelligent We’re seeing crazy economic strata never seen before, economists will be in shambles
You heard the thread, clone games have no future.
>>542386868lots of products that cost money to make are essentially free, like pornography, music and other kinds of entertainment. it's pretty hard to starve in the developed world. once healthcare gets automated, the main thing we'll be short of is housing until something new comes up like life extension in some form.
>>542387498There is no Parry in Captain Toad. Adding more buttons just makes the game worse.
>>542386849if AI reaches that level then people will be able to create competitors to you and if your price is too high you will just lose your customerbase to other people. there's probably even going to be open source shit where they can customize it however they like so i doubt you'll earn much unless you're very early
>>542386453Will never happen. You still need electricity to power all those LLM models.
>>542388012This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever seen. "Why wouldn't I just play the original?" Idk, maybe you're fucking bored of a game that came out 20 years ago? What a retard.
I like the idea of gamedev and being a software dev I like the technical side of it too, but I don't really have any ideas or things I fell like I absolutely have to bring into the world. Has anyone else dealt with something like this? Can I get the creative juices flowing somehow, other than the usual "I wish X was different" or "I could totally do Y better" that I already get when playing games? Or am I perma-NGMI right from the start? I don't have any creative hobbies, feel kinda ded inside to be quite honest.
>>542387698it's pretty useful to me for writing code. saves me a lot of time.my friend is a radiologist and he tried a specialized AI at some conference and it's as good at reading scans as he is.
>>542388450The free romhack versus your sorry game that decided to be $20.
>>542387085this doesn't necessarily mean people have to be killed. you can already see birthrates have declined significantly in modern countries. the only ones that need to be reigned in are the poor shithole countries llike in africa that still have lots of kids.
>>542388368orbital AI-run AI-built factories making solar collectors and microwaving power to Earth?
>>542388506I think a lot of us are in pretty much the same situation. We're all builders who like building shit but unfortunately have no creative spirit to build anyting worth building. Just take a look at demo days: loads of stuff being built, a lot of which is actually pretty technically impressive, but pretty much nothing that actually should be built.
>>542388792The irony is that we'll not going to develop the technology necessary to achieve that because we're too busy being distracted consuming all the slop the LLMs can produce now. To use the old metaphor, we're eating all the seed corn now instead of planting it.
>>542388046there's a booming economy and plenty of jobs in nations where their wages are 500 usd.First worlders are trully fucked because their wages makes them too expensive to compete globally.
I'm just glad a million people played my games before AI took over creating entertainment. sure my games were newgroundsslop and mobileslop but I did leave some kind of impression on humanity.
>>542388232There is more than just a parry; theres a DASH, a dash sprint, a jump, a double jump warp, a down dash, a soul parry shield, 6+ puzzle cubes that behave differently and have their own abilities to solve puzzles. 9 bosses instead of 2 bosses like captain toad, 6 zones of content instead of 3 like captain toad and each has 6+ levels that don't reuse assets like captain toad, a little bit more of a complex story with suprises near the end unlike no story in captain toad, 7 cutscenes, and a opening and ending song, more than 40+ songs one for each level instead of captain toad reusing its same 8ish songs in multiple levels, and tons of hidden content like unlockable skins by finding a hidden diamond on every level and planning on adding local multiplayer co-op after launch as a free update and a laundry list of free updates to do to the game FOREVER if the game hasnt hit mostly positive on steam already for the entire games price which will be $4.99
>>542389090>a laundry list of free updates to do to the game FOREVER if the game hasnt hit mostly positive on steamPlease don't tell me il still see you fucking post fake progress posts in here forever even after release just because you have not hit mostly positive reviews on steam yet you fucking idiot. The whole point of bokube releasing should be its DONE
>>542389076Yeah but you lost 400k on doge clone
>>542388251I think you are misunderstanding I don't mean for Joe Blow to pump it out on his laptop I mean for the first models of this type of experience like Elon dropping the Grok anime GF.Once one of these guys launch Troon Sim the money they'll rake in will be limitless
>>542389076now you have reputation
>Troon Sim>not a Fur Sim
>>542388570You didn't counter what I said faggot.
What progress have you made, dearest anon?
>>542388506You should just be an employee. Work hard to be technically capable. Help others achieve their dreams while being respected by your peers.
>>542370109If you're handpainting then try roughing it in 2-4x res, then lower the res to what your target is and paint in the details. It is much easier to do textures that are meant to be filtered. Even unwrapping a model to look good with pixelized textures is a nightmare.
>>542389031if we manage to connect LLM's together with fact based symbolic systems like CYC we'll have much more robust intelligence. AI will get a massive powerspike whenever this happens
>>542389748Worked on a bit on the background and added some fog >>542382965 Thinking of adding a barrel rolling gimmick
>>542389090>a double jump warpBreaks immersion when this unknown force just slides you back to your pervious spot>a soul parry shieldInvalidates positioning which should be the focus of the game>6 zones of content instead of 3 like captain toad and each has 6+ levelsInsert Knuckles Chaotix joke about how 5 acts is too long compared to 2>for the entire games price which will be $4.99Why haven't you told Twitter or YouTube about the price? Why is that info only for us?
Flopping is bad enough when you don't do all this marketing and engagement.
as the global IQ keeps dropping, gaming will collapse both as an industry and an artform
>>542389748The anon who made these pics and the agdg waifu pics is a great artist
>>542372267>>542372497>>542375270>>542377463>>542383459>>542387741kill yourself
>>542390094Thats not the double jump in the footage thats a rewind ability im testing but I might scrap it because its too buggy.
>>542390435Wearing a scarf inside lol. What do libs need that shit for, to wipe their pussy?
should I make a pokemon clone or a dark souls clone, which is easier
>of course I can quit my job to make a game and then jump back into a career.
>>542391232kek wagies are so mindbroken
>>542390454in and endgame market the only games that can survive are AAAs with millions put into marketing, highly memeable low-effort viralslop, and the occasional lucky person
>>542391232that manager sounds souless
>>542391395I will make an army of hugbox AIs to play my game and praise me
>>542391232Should have lied and said it was for additional training and learning. That's how I explained it. Remember, the acronym NEET is a clue for what are considered acceptable alternatives to Employment.
>>542391232I don't see how they couldn't explain the situation. Normies aren't good with words. The biggest problem I'd have is to not be insulting. "You can't imagine someone would have a desire to see the earth? To explore? Why not?" I actually have met multiple people who basically say they don't understand vacation. They don't use the vacation. They literally say, what would I even do? I literally wanted to punch a family member in the fucking face when they said that. At that moment I basically just felt like they died. I can't even imagine being so god damn boring that you don't find taking a walk outside more enjoyable than some bullshit job.
>>542375170>the lack of first person or strategy games or flight/space/driving sims. Almost no emergent mechanics or emergent storytelling.>>542376295>What's interesting to me is how those things I like seem like culturally foreign to Japanese gamedevsIt is quite interesting. Japanese game design is rather distinct in that way. There's a lot of it that I don't care for because of that. Their games feel too linear and often too story heavy despite the stories being generic, low quality and uninteresting. I don't mean that all of their games' stories are like that but most.Yes I recognize that they make some great games but this blind simping of anything Japanese that is all too common to see on this website feels a bit stupid. That being said I played the shit out of Final Fantasy growing up and FFXI is one of my favorite MMORPGs. There's also a lot of cool weird games in the DS and 3DS libraries. Some of those could have good ideas for indie devs.
>>542390454This only affects jobby devs and Indians… so only slop devs suffer. AAA movie games will survive though.
>>542391780The vast majority of people are like that. That's why all the most popular modern video games essentially boil down to doing a checklist of chores. All the "fun" is in making the checklist incredibly easy to complete and being able to see the completed checklist.
>>542374884>back doesn't even have an exit wound for the bladeI am amazed how anyone buys bethesda's low effort slop
>>542390831I'd remove the rewind on principle since it makes dashing non-committal so players aren't thinking before they roll which... defeats the point of the puzzle game.
You know how there are esg scores?I want to see IQ scores attached to games. I’m not playing low iq games.
hiring managers don't like employment gaps
redpill me on GOAP vs Behavior Trees
>>542392653do you mean of the devs who made it or the people who buy it? either way I imagine it would probably average out when many people are lumped together, unless it's a game made by one person
>>542375536I told him ages ago that this was gonna happen. He didn't listen.
>>542392218But AAA movie games are made by indians
>>542390435a classic game of "who's the audience for this?"
>>542378223There's some like that. Usually those games are taking a lot from Monster Hunter though there's some that lean more into the RPG aspect. PSP has a bunch of games like that. None that I know of go all CRPG. Maybe their Wizardry clones come the closest.
i can't do it
Genres for each classification?
>>542392856Both
>>542392243Now that you mention it, most my co-workers are like "haha I'm going to start taking every Friday off because I have to use my vacation, it renews soon and I haven't used any haha." None of them take vacations more than 20 minutes away. None of them talk about anything they do out of work. None of them take off multiple days in a row. It's shocking. When I eat lunch with them (rare), they talk about work. There's no manager watching them, and yet they are excited to talk about work, when not at work. Literal fucking slaves.
I'm taking the 2d Shartformer pill, I am messing around with a Blackthorne like. So cover shooting 2d shitfarter with some puzzling.Idea guys:How would you improve on 2d cover shooting from this game?
>>542393220me at the bottom!my game at the bottom!
>>542393082No for long lmao
>>542385450this is based thogh.everything becoming AI means everything will be 4chan. we have won
>>542393220Sandbox at the top, open world survival crafting at the bottom
>>542393204YES YOU CAN!
brb, I'm gonna make bokube
>>542393204just like make game
>>542393220I think immersive sims would be high average
>>542383469If you plan to do this I would suggest you make an editor for it. >>542384981This is why the NPC can never be unNPC'd. Once an NPC always an NPC. I used to try to wake my NPC friends up but in time I learned it is futile. They don't have free will.
>>542393256I work with a slave-pilled cuck who says he dreams about not being prepared for work meetings and wakes up in a sweat.I don't talk about my personal life or interests with coworkers because normies are cowardly backstabbers who will use any information against you at an opportune time. In my personal life, I don't talk about my work unless asked to explain what I do when meeting new people.Sometimes friends ask questions about novel situations in my work, like being in a famous person's home and wanting to know what it looks like inside.I NEVER discuss game development with anybody except aggys and my wife, and even then I feel it may have damaged her perception of me.
>>542393684do not do it, it will take you 5+ years to make it into a viable product that isnt just a sokoban that will fail like mojito
>>542389090oh man bokudev really lost the plot
>>542394069Agdg in 2016: Oh bokudev your game is shit its just captain toad Agdg in 2025: Oh bokudev your game is shit its not exactly like captain toad
>>542390435>>542393096It is so funny seeing all of these. Fools go to conventions and get a bunch of merch and promotional materials made wasting thousands when they never even tested to see if the game has an audience.
>>542392483>bethesda
Bastard benchod... By the end of the next week, I'll release my game.... Will you play it? Benchod?
>>542382136>paying gaben to distribute your game for freeCongrats tho and I may play it
>>542388556It has some niche uses, but that's not the same thing as 'everyone is fucked'
>>542389987This is the correct and most time-efficient methodology for these types of models.A few tips:-models can be unwrapped forwards OR backwards. Meaning you can UV onto a blank then make your texture, or create a texture map and unwrap onto that.-photobashing was the rule of the day for everyone in the industry excluding some VERY high paid artists at Square-As stated, rough everything in at 2-4x your intended resolution, then scale it down with unfiltered scaling. Gets you the look you posted. Textures at that time were usually 128x OR 256x for really high detail stuff.-You can fuck up EVEN more if you know that your in-engine stuff is going to have a PP that filters or blends pixels. Much more forgiving.-Depending on your art style, DON'T skimp on the saturation. That generation was made to be played on shitty CRTs the size of a postage stamp. That means they cranked up the contrast and saturation to get the intended feeling.Hope that helps. Low poly modeling is not for the faint of heart. It's the most difficult possible blend of 3D modeling skills and 2D art skills. Anyone recommending to people that are new to either is doing them a disservice.I believe in YOU though. You can do it! Ganbatte!
>>542393848>and my wife, and even then I feel it may have damaged her perception of me.what has damaged her perception of you is you sitting at your pc clacking away on the keyboard for hours at a time, that's one of the most unattractive things you can do as a man in women's eyes, even if it leads to millions of dollars of income
Be careful who you make fun of in high school. That skinny kid you bullied for only weighing 200lbs? This is him now.
>AI plateaued a year ago, it'll never improve past this!
>>542394828damaskus on dd?
>>542385063Automon has a surprisingly high average playtime. Automon Arena could be a hit if the bald Canadian plays it on stream
>>542394828That design sucks
>>542393256>guy actually enjoys the work he does for a living and doesn't really want to do anything else>people on 4chan shit on him for it Poor lad. I'd drink a beer with him after work.
>>542394828This art is almost as bad as your levels.
>>542364264Why would one need to be a nepo baby? I agree on the college part probably since a lot of you guys can't do anything beyond vibe coding but online in godot is fucking cake. Like, it was basically the first feature we got working in our game.
>>542393636There's a bug with my spatial hasher that I've been trying to fix off and on for MONTHS, and I cannot figure it out. If I can't get it to work, I'll have to greatly reduce the number of enemies on screen so that collision checks don't decrease the framerate.
>>542385450I can't make a game before they ruin things.But I can keep making my game even if they ruin things.Even if no one plays it I will keep making my game.
I honestly should keep working on this.
>>542394376I could've sworn there was a game from bethesda that was exactly like this
>>542389748>Finished the UI and code for the town upgrade and mission dispatch menus.>Updated the base material used for most UI panels. Gives it a little color motion for some PIZAZZ.>Upgraded the kobold town area to be more like a chinese/korean back alley. Finished 40% of the new layout so far.>Currently working through populating the Town Upgrade datatable.All in all, a productive week.
>>542394947maybe anons sticking their heads in the sand will be better off? we can't do anything about AI except be eaten by it so what's the use worrying about the inevitable?
>>542394947>a year ago>posts something from 2.5 years agoyou'll need to buy a new education to replace the one the AI gave you
>>542394721Good advice.Also that screenshot is kino. I want to make games with a feel like that.
>>542395458They fucking wish.
>>542394828Good progress. Why can you see his nipples and navel through his sweater though?
Any good art styles to pilfer?
From a scale of 1 to 10, how easy and enjoyable it is to interact with your codebase?
>>542394947NOOOOO BUT WHAT ABOUT MY WILL SMITH SPAGHETTI EATING SIMIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
>>542396187Anime
>>5423962238. the build scripts part is hell but the rest is comfy
>>542395896blade & sorcery is special
>>542394721Based constructive and on topic poster.Take this (You)
>>542396513the future for gaming is brightthe future for gamedevs is bleak
>542396607how is this even erotic they look like oompa loompas
>>542386041the next steps are to print their own currency and get accepted to the UN
>>542396607Draw directly from your heart
>>542388831Yeah that sounds about right... Well I guess I'll just keep building for now and see where that brings me.>>542389902>You should just be an employee.That sounds... Vaguely insulting. I'm already an employee at my day job that I really don't want to change at the moment, this is something I want to do for myself.
Boss intro for the toxic swamp boss. If you rush through the spawn's warp block to the boss arena quickly you can catch the ghost on top of him during the intro.
>>542397140what are the 3 white boxes for and why are they there if they're empty
>>542396781we were saying that in 1993 chill out buddy>nobody but massive studios will ever be able to keep up with the rising popularity of ThReE dEe GaYmEn
>>542394262agdg in 2034: Oh bokudev your game is shit its just nostalgia for that retrogame captain toad
>>542396782What do you get from a glut of TVA pain in the dick and an r thirty-fourWhy don't you try simply making a gameOr could you just not bear to work
>>542397873that might as well be a pig brother get the higher res version up
>>542397245a pickaxe, shovel and hammer if you buy them so you can build your own house
>>542398242crafting confirmed??
>>542394721>>542370109>>542389987Other stuff that is engine dependent:-Best PBR setup for pixel mats is attached. YMMV, but you can add normal maps for fancy lighting, else a 1 in Z for flat reflection. AO at 0, it defaults to 1. -DONT FORGET ALBEDO / SPECULAR. If you forget to set this to 0 from 1, it will make the texture you worked your ass off on look like washed out shit.-Lighting your scene is even more important than having really good models and materials. Pre-baked was used back in the day, but dynamic is cooler and better. -Decide if you want to emulate (get as close as possible to the real thing at the time, even if it means sacrificing cool effects) or evocate (evoke the feeling of / get the 'vibe' right). Evocation is the right answer 99% of the time, and will save you time, energy, and in-game resources.>>542395828 >>542396526 Thanks for the (YOU)s.
>>542398537crafting is still a WIP
>>542382965based based based
>>542385450>3DMy game is pixel art though. AI scientists don't seem to care much about making pixel art models so I think I'm safe.
>>542397753The movies never did the books justice. The books had a song about a little girl taking so many laxatives she nearly shit herself to death and spends the rest of her life shitting 7 hours a day. Mel Stuart and Tim Burton are both pussies and I will never forgive them.
>>542400898that sounds like a weird fetish. is everything characters fate in willy wonka a fucking fetish?
>>542393220>me.with an IQ over 160
>you stagnated long enough for recap to diesad
Hey guys, I'm looking for new indie games to play and I'm just curious about which kind of games you are currently working on. Does anyone have a demo or just videos/images about their games?I would love to check those out, cheers!
I don't know what I want my game to be anymore :(
>>542403491nigga shut yo goofy aaaah upand play Galduen of the Void - Out now! >>542381929
>>542403768how about finished?
>>542381929>GameMore like mental health crisis
>>542403787>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3863130/Galduen_of_the_Void/Oh shit it's free.
>>542404340>mental health cris-isFixed that for ya.
another anon about to get filtered by azurdev's autism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9av1wQzdfY>never released a single game>wife is the breadwinner and has 2 kids>refuses to get a real job and wants to make 500 a month using youtube and small gamesdoes he have the loser phenotype?
>>542382136haven't played it but heard the half-decent music in the trailer - did you make it?
>no french language, broken english only
>>542404994literally who?
>>542401360Augustus is turned into fudge and fed to people without their knowledge, oh we were just kidding he's just covered in chocolate.Violet swells up like a balloon then permanently has blue rubbery skin after.The spoiled brat Veruca gets thrown down a garbage chute into a pile of garbage along with her parents.Mike gets shrunken down to a pocket-sized twink, then gets stretched back into a tall, think, lanky normal-sized twink.Goldie gets a lifetime of constant diarrhea.Piker fell into a mixer and was, well, mixed - omitted from later draftsWilber fell into a machine that packages chocolate bars, survived - omitted from later draftsTom drowned in the river of chocolate - replaced by Augustus in later draftsElvira was ripped apart by machinery - became Veruca in later drafts with less violent endMarvina was turned into an Ooma Loompa for being too stupid - can't imagine why they cut that one outHumbert hid himself to play a prank, got trapped, never found - omitted from later draftsI'm not saying Roald Dahl was a pervert, but I'm not saying he wasn't.
>>542374228nta and I don't care it's a shitpost in your eves. Remove that stupid disclosure or you won't get a trailer from me. I'm dead serious.
>>542404730No you didn't, cris is better than that shit
>>542403787Having the story trailer as the first one is a BIG mistake, show a juicy gameplay trailer instead.
>>542375536>asymetrical horrorreally?
guys be honest with me is a jrpg easy to make? it seems too good to be true that it would be easy to make with no catch
>>542406341the game would need to have juicy gameplay to have a juicy gameplay traileryou're not wrong though
>>542406554No game is easy to make.
>upload build to steam depot>"Upload Failed!"My 30% hard at work.
your favorite gamedev's favorite gamedev
>>542406640stupid boomer, just pay up and you can shit indie games monthly with codex
>>542406713I only recognize King Crab from this image
>>542406640well no but some are easier than others so i meant "general" comparative easiness to most other game types
>>542393220anything below 90 is survivor sloppa and number go up simulators
>>542406713yooooo 7 chiggas in a row
>>542406713that meat looks cold
>>542406780I said game, not worthless aislop.>>542406856You can just fire up RPG Maker and make a JRPG relatively easily. Will it be good? No. Will people want to play it? Most likely not. But you can make one.
>>542406554it's so much writing, dude.
>>542407006you can't even detect ai if it isn't using ai art, people were praising that 2d game last thread with an ai made engine
>>542407056100 pages worth of "You can press start to save the game"-type dialog. My god.
Holy shit, I've always harped on galduan for being a shitty middle school game just from the still shots posted here but now I just watched the trailer and HOLY LMFAOYou're also an ESL aren't you? If not maybe work on fucking English before you write a story. Also your logo in the game still looks horrible, you didn't even capitalize letters. ALSO THOSE "CLOUDS" AFTER YOU LEAVE THE PLANET LMFAOOOOOO
>>542407239ai is perfect for this
>>542407346Yeah, I'm ESL since I was born and raised in Quebec, so I know more languages than you. Plus, I've released a game, unlike you.
>>542407346stfu crabtard
AI please make a video of game developer Masahiro Sakurai riding a crab into /agdg/, thank you.
How do you guys make the music for your game?
>>542407543>released a game>gameThis shit ain't a game fag, it's pathetic
Want to make progress
>>542406713>be game director and get all the praise when the game is doing well>nobody pays attention to the lead programmer that is responsible for the gameplay>nobody cares for level designer even though you'll be running through his creation for the whole game>nobody gives a fuck about twenty artists that work tirelessly to create assets, textures, anmiations and visual effectsWhy should I praise a guy that is basically a slave driver, and with elevated ego they're probably insufferable? Toby at least made a game from start to finish. Sure, it was 1000 if/else statements and got a boost in exposure from homestuck autists but did any of these hacks write a line of code in their last 10 years?
>>542407736>crabThat would imply I'm somehow jealous of a mentally ill trans (apparently French) faggot. Au contraire, Monsieur. I just want people to not post absolute garbage dumpster trash things in these threads that takes 5 seconds to produce. The idea that amateur means zero skill is unbelievably annoying and you need to be 18+ to post on this website.
>>542408161>I'm somehow jealousit's completely transparent anon
>>542406554>>542407056>>542407239Final Fantasy 7 has 45000 words, which is half the average novel.>>542407387I was going to shit on you but with the state of modern literature it's probably viable to do that and end up at least average.
>>542407776With instruments, what a dumb question>>542408261What would I need to be jealous of? I'm a better artist and gamedev than them.
>>542382965nice, I see you've listened to my feedback about background, looks good. If I can add anything, maybe you could cycle through colors? I think that would be a nice effect.
>>542406713>the real inner circle
>>542408440>I'm a better artist and gamedev than them.where's your game then?
How do you manage your dev time between gaming, sleep and work?
>>542408783Easy, I don't dev.
>>542408632In development, it takes time to not release slop anon. I can't share updates about it here though because it makes people seethe and have meltdowns.
>>542406713What do you think they talk about?
>>542408783this guy worked for nasa btw
>>542408632You're not going to believe this, but he doesn't have a game.
>>542408839>I can't share updates about it here though because it makes people seethe and have meltdowns.yeah totally not because you've got jack shit to show
>>542408783I don't work
>>542408504Thanks and will try the color cycling idea
>>542409051All he has to show are some shitty renders with no personality.
not so good today but we'll get therethe twintails still need to be fixed somehow. Maybe instead of box modelling it ill have to use curves.
>>542409430How did you learn to model?
>>542407543>I was born and raised in QuebecIve thought you were french, I am disappointed...
>>542409430>>542409634Better question is, why didn't you learn to model before posting this embarrassment?
>>542409051I have a bunch to show actually, there's just no point in sharing it because I don't need the validation of people from this thread like most of the kids here do. I have a nice circle of developers and friends that give support and feedback already. I come to this thread to answer questions and give feedback when I'm bored. Also it's really fun to do something creative from the thread to shitpost and the like. Like pic rel. I modeled one night because another anon mentioned modeling it, that was fun and gave me something to do for an evening at like 2am.
>>542409634Just open the program and try to do something. When you can't figure out how to do something type "How to x in blender" in youtube and find the 30 second video that shows you. Or do what a bunch of people do and make the donut. Either way the only way you learn is by doing it and it's free and easy so just get going already.
>>542369486I'm honoured to be part of this art.It's a pity I might have to change things and it might no longer be recognizable.
>>542409634bing duckoogle "FlyCat" (on youtube)
>>542410761Who gives a shit if you're recognizable in some anons random sketch.
>>542410558>I don't need the validation of people from this threadLike how you were spamming your queer face when people weren't giving you validation for your shitposts?
>>542409051God the k-on girls are so absurdly erotic. Even when nothing sexual is going on i cant help but imagine what it would be like to show them all my penis, how they would react, how they would approach giving me a blowjob, how each one of their mouths would feel, how thier buttholes and pussys look. This is a normal reaction right?
>>542410908this nigga lonely as hell begging for replies like this fr.... you finna talk it out lil bro? lmao you too much of a bitch to fight dem repressed feelings?? SHIEEET HAHAHA
>>542411189...who do you think I am? I have never, and would never, post my face or anything of the like here. What the fuck would be the point of that?
It's NextFest and you have nothing to say about the 6 anons there? I see the Crab exists in all of us.
>>542411261No, you're a fucking degenerate.
we need more alien abduction games
>>542408271novels aren't easy to write either.
>>542410558nta but coming to the thread, saying that you're better than anyone from here and then proceed to post nothing and arguing it's so good people will seethe is disingenous. Why even be here then? If you're coming here just to dunk on us, lowly amateurs then you actually have issues and you need us to feel better about yourself. Believe it or not but there are great devs here and they show up, post progress, participate in DD and do it all without vitriol, and people from here aren't seething over them. People will hate you hovewer if you act like a smug little cunt and I see you're very proficient in that area.
>>542411732>great devs here and they show up, post progress, participate in DD and do it all without vitriolName even one
>>542411283I think you are a complete loser. By the way, you have no game.
I've only ever finished 1 (one) project and it was a shitty gamejam game
>>542407543Thoughts about indians iyc?
>>542411940There is no difference between finishing zero projects, one project, or a hundred projects if they aren't projects worth finishing.t. wasted years making 100 shitty gamejam games
i pay 200$ a month btw
>>542412078Why?
>>542407820where is yours
>>542411274>lil broI'm in my 30s lmao. I'm not lonely, I do get really bored though, as I have A LOT of free time with my career. I've literally gone out 5 time this week with people but that still only accounted for like, 15 hours of time taken away. If you take away my sleep, work, gamedev time (30hrs this week), and whatever I still have like 57 hours left this past week of free time. When you have an entire work day worth of free time a day or more you get REALLY bored. Unfortunately most people in the world work 9-5 or worse and aren't free to hangout all the time and hobbies can only be done so much.
>>542411857Ctesiphon, Ninja Game, Dark Grace, Cludge, Putt Down, Dark Sector, Mystery of The Malign, all games with high level of competence, 3D models and texture work, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
>>542410051>>542409430i hope you get beheaded, pedophile
>>542410761Hopefully demo day 65 also gets a cool collage with the updated design.
>>542412078didja try codex?
>>542412331pedophile website
>>542409430She looks like she'd have a remarkably tight butthole.
>>542412241coincidentally I was talking to my friend who was unemployed recently and we shared that, when you have a lot of free time, it can paradoxically end up feeling harder to spend it productively, there's little pressure to keep some "fire under your ass" to keep you motivated, plenty of time to feel bored (and shitpost on 4chan)not sure what I can contribute here, I am still at the "just goes to work and rots at home" phase.climbing club? pottery? dating? open jam nights?god bless
>>542412241Grassfag-coded reply. Work on your MMO, retard.
>>542412078Just use ChatGPT-5 HIGH if Claude is bad. ChatGPT-5 HIGH is consistently good.
>>542411732>Why even be here then?So you have really horrible reading comprehension. If you took 2 seconds to process the post you replied to you can see me say " I come to this thread to answer questions and give feedback when I'm bored. Also it's really fun to do something creative from the thread to shitpost and the like."I don't come to dunk on people, I give advice and help people all the time >>542410740 is an example. No offense but I can tell you're a kid and you have to realize only people like you care about DD and being a circle of friendly devs. There are a lot of people who come here who need to take the criticism and do better and not just bitch and moan. Galduen is one of them. MULTIPLE people have told them they need to learn more fundamental things and they refuse. It's annoying to see the same garbage repeatedly with no improvements and pretend it's some sort of progress and they deserve some sort of kind reply. No, it's garbage and it deserves to be treated as garbage at this point.
I've told 2 women that I like making games and I saw the enthusiasm for talking to me drain from their faces, I need to find a girl who likes games
>>542412401yes but sometimes i need opus for really complicated and critical parts thats literally the only reason i bother with claude, sonnet is just whatever you wont feel the difference with the other models, i cancelled my claude plan anthropic is just incompetent
i wish i had a game to make
>>542412878Why? Having a gf will distract you from making progress on your games.
>>542412878No women ever even ask me if I like making games.
>>542409430based based based
>>542413001
>>542412878Really? I had the totally opposite reaction and even got a gf out of it, and she literally had never played games in her life prior to me.
>>542413179i didnt say i wish i could learn how to make gamesi know how to make games, i dont need to make pong
CHADgoon, incinerate every pedophile in this very thread
>>542413195what did she find cool about it? just that it's something creative? something different to compared to what most guys do?
>>542413262I didn't say anything about need eitheryou want a game to make?make pongit's better than making another post
>>542413365Based, JLMG.
>>542411449I dont understand your reply. You must be gay.
ok so im gonna keep it a buck, if you need a 'cord tranny to tell you to make pong/pacman/space invader, etc you should kill yourself back to veddit and leave my hobbyyou shouldnt be here, you have nothing to say and the hobby is already saturated with talentless pieces of shit carried by AI, engines, tutorials, assets, etcleave, you aint an artist, you aint a craftsman, youre just a faggot vedditor manchild and probably a pedophile too
>>542412345Yeah you know what, I should go for that attitude.
>>542412226Here's a quick example of how easy it is to do better than mspaintbrush strokes>>542412601Yeah it sucks because I'm currently golfing once or twice a week but it's almost winter, I play hockey twice a week but the team doesn't always go out before or after because they have to work in the morning, doing something with my girlfriend once a week but that usually isn't something extravagant time wise, maybe going out for a few hours for dinner/shopping and watching tv/movies while eating. I mean I spent 30 hours this week programming one little thing and still have almost 60 hours left even if I went to the bar every night I'd still have a full work week of free time after and less money. Like you can only play video games, watch youtube/plex, etc. so much before you are just bored no matter what. If I was uber rich it'd be a different story money is pretty much the only solution to boredom.
>>542413275lol no
how do you become friends with other indie developers in real life
>>542414578>I spent 30 hours this week programming one little thingProgramming what? Wind so your billions of grass sprites can sway "realistically"?
>>542412878They just probably weren't creative women or were basic as fuck. Basic women only like basic men and hate anything abnormal. If a girl looks like she listens to taylor swift and will match 90% of the other girls going out on the town outfit wise she is not going to want to hear that you do nerdy shit. All she will want to hear is that you make a lot of money, work hard, and do basic shit like watch football on the weekend when you're not mowing the lawn and fixing your truck. Unfortunately there's a lot more of that type of girl than not especially when you realize most nerdy women type are going to be less social just like their male counterpart. Your best bet is to go to places where they would be willing to hangout and naturally socialize there. Then you'll find them excited that you work on games in your spare time. Like right now if I was still single I'd be at renfest every weekend to meet women. I wouldn't be downtown at a cool bar.
>>542414876Go to gamedev related events/classes and talk to people.
>>542412871>So you have really horrible reading comprehensionI see what you wrote and I know you're lying. You come here just to crab on people and you're saying that without any evidence of expertise.>I give advice>proceeds to post non-adviceYou couldn't give more vague tips if you tried. Also>I can tell you're a kidYou're gaining more points in a "smug cunt" category
>>542415198i dont have a car and i dont leave my apartment
>>542414578You sound like a grassfag
>>542412878Tell them you are an artist and show them your models and/or drawings.
>>542415295Weird flex but ok
>>542414876Look up your local creative spaces, colleges, etc. in your town and find other developers. I don't know why questions like these are asked all the time here. Is the younger generation really that socially inept? I know you guys mostly sit at home in discord all day, but god damn. Just going to one convention can introduce you to a whole new swath of friends.>>542414934Huh? I was working on new walking code to have a better "feel" and control for precise movement. My game doesn't even have grass.>>542415265Sounds like a you problem man>>542415295Stop being pathetic
>>542415653What engine is your game using?
>>542415769Unreal
>>542415653>Is the younger generation really that socially inept?Maybe if you consider millennials a "younger" generation, grandpa.
I have now started treating gamedev comments from most people here (and in general social media) like GPT-3 output, sometimes entertaining but mostly gibberish (with less polish and more grammatical errors). Which may even be literally true as most of these sites are now filled with bots. I pretty much do all serious discussion about anything with a frontier LLM and people I know irl who knows what they are talking about. It has cut down so much noise and bs for me.
>>542415875I don't know any millennial that has these issues senpai
>>542415905>mostly gibberish (with less polishkurwa, zajebiście
>>542415905invaluable insight thank you anon
I have been here for months and I still have no idea who or what the hell a grassfag is
>>542409051>>542409430>>542410051kill yourself
>>542416215Some loser you shouldn't concern yourself with. He gave up on his game when he realized it would have been a flop.
>>542412518>>542413141>>542414187>>542411261>>542415558kill yourself
>>542416359>He gave up on his game when he realized it would have been a flop.So, uh, before even starting to work on it?
>>542415905Can you show your game so I may evaluate whether that modus operandi is conducive to satisfactory results or not and decide whether to apply it to my own game's development?
>>542416382
>>542416359I'm confused, if thats the case why is he mentioned all the time?
I'm gonna make a game like this someday. Not today though. But someday I will.
>>542416646kill yourself
>>542416478He made a test build (that never got out to the public lmao) and all you could do was walk around and look at grass. He had so much pride in telling everyone that he made hundreds of unique grass tiles that we gave him the name "grassfag" because of it.
>>542417490Actually IIRC he had an mmo but it was in early development stages so you couldn't do much beyond logging in? I don't fully remember there were some pretty interesting webms I remember. I think you could fight enemies and loot them?Anyways, the only person I know that actually calls him grassfag or harps on about this shit is fagoon. This post is fagoon. Fagoon is still seething about getting blacked or whatever.
Daddy said he wants me to release a commercial game as soon as possible even if it is to get no sales and that he will pay for the computer equipment I need and Steam submission fees.
>>542394947How do I use AI to make porn vids? For a game of course.
https://youtu.be/0Fw1sMB3C6Asaw on the algo
That's enough devving for now.I'm gonna go make some cookies.
>>542418784what kind bro? post results...
>>542417490>that we gave him the name>weyou mean *you* gave him the name
>>542418878maple snickerdoodles. for full disclosure: i had chatgpt generate the recipe for me. will post pics when they're done.
>>542418747ask on the porn thread in gif or something
How did one dev make one guy seethe so much?
>>542418167Go back to working on your game, Grassfag.
>>542415558what if my models look like shit?
I finishified my game.... Now I wait for the retards at valve to review my build so they let me release it... This journey.... It was not worth it.
why there seems to be a resistance againts using AI as another art tool for gamedev artists, just like how blender, houdini, and 3D sofware is considered tools?
Megabonk confirms without a doubt that the only thing that matters to determine the success of your game is how viral it goes on social media. If you're making "art" you're a dumbfuck and need to add skibidi toilet somewhere.
>>542420406Congratulations!
How the fuck do you design stuff? How do you draw something that doesn't exist?
>>542420809Thank you dearest saar. Many Vishnu blessings to you saar.
>>542420879You piece it together with little bits of things that do exist. Next question.
Megabonk confirms without a doubt that if the only thing that you care about is virality and money, then you are a subhuman and should end your existence posthaste
Waaaaagies
i gave up on my old game and haven't done anything creative in months but now it's finally time. this time my idea is much simpler so i can hopefully finish it
>>542420879>he cant see the apple
>>542420760Mistaking cause for effect and putting the cart ahead of the horse. Megabonk was a viral success because it was a good game, not because it was viral. Dumbfucks who try to make "art" fail not because of failing to be viral but because they focus on being "artistic" instead of being a good game. Being not good is why they failed to be viral, not the other way around.
>>542421318Underage newfag
>>542421318Megabonk is exactly the same as every other survivor clone, except it has "monke" and "amogus" and was marketed to tiktok addled children, so it made him millions.
>>542420161Carol...
>>542420953but how do you make it good and not bad
>>542419880Why do you call everyone grassfag?
>>542421940You can't. Give up.
fuuuck this joooobbbyyy!!!!!
SEX with this hobby!!!
My monster catcher is a fucking nightmare so far. I know I have to do things iteratively until everything works, and I can't rush it. But it's so tedious implementing one little feature at a time. And throughout that process you find more and more little bugs that need to be tweaked. I'll keep pushing until the battle mechanics against wild monsters is done then take a break from coding to make some rough prototype monsters to replace the cubes I'm using at the moment. Hopefully that little break will prep me to start doing enemy trainer battles which will be similar to wild battles but with an array of monsters instead of just one and the option to swap out monsters or use potions etc.
>>542423319Why not just make a Pokemon romhack?
Well anon, who's gonna be the first to concede and start making shorts?
>>542423403Hell, if I could I would.
>>542423381I want to be able to sell this, preferably as a Switch 2 exclusive so Nintendo doesn't rape me. Also, I want to do my own battle mechanics that are derived from more complex stats.
>>542423403I have gone beyond shorts, making videos totalling a length of 0:00:00. Can't get shorter than that.
>>542423403Poke All Toads was the first
>>542423403>implying I don't already have shorts
>Try to generate HD AI 2D art>AI is useless for group scenes or use controlnet now>Try to trace it>I start to feel like crap
if you guys were making about $250 per day in sales nearly two weeks after launch, without any marketing or updates, would you keep pursuing that game and try pushing massive updates and organic tiktok/yt shorts clickbait marketing videos? to me this feels like a pretty decent proof of concept that the game resonates despite being very unmarketed and honestly quite unfinished (with regards to the massive updates I have planned)
>>542423403No point in me making videos for an audience of 0. I need at least 1k views per video for it to be worth the effort.
>>542424120Why the fuck are you bragging about your success here of all places?
>>542423319Why not just make Kameo but worse?
>>542424130>"I need an audience before I will do that. What? No, of course I will not do literally anything to tangibly work towards building that audience despite knowing I need one. Why? Because I'm a massive faggot retard who will never achieve anything in life"
>>542424307Go away fagoon, literally no one likes you here
>>542424353In the real world you sign an employment contract guaranteeing you payment for your work instead of working up front for promise of pay.
>>542424209I think the vast majority of people here would consider my game a massive flop, so I am obviously not bragging. I'm just curious about people's thoughts on when to ditch a game vs keep pushing. When it's your own project it's easy to cope and delude yourself into seeing stuff as a sign of life when it is sometimes better to cut ties and avoid sunk cost
>>542394828he thicc
>>542424524Fuck your humble bragging. You and I both know that the typical dev here sees $0 per day from their flop.
>>542424492>wagie mentalityngmi
>>542424492In the "real world" your employer takes on the massive risk of hiring a faggot like you for increased gain of making more money than your hourly pay, when you are working for yourself you shoulder the burden of increased risk and unlock access to the potential increased gains if successful. Pretending not to understand this is why you will never achieve anything
>>542420879It's kinda sad what I'm about to say but plenty of people from 2000 or in the 90's didn't know either. I'm on my PS2 classics marathon and from the games I've played, many classics and games that people praise have design flaws.For example Blood Omen 2 had atrocious level design. You had platforms that existed for sole purpose of you being able to jump somewhere. You had puzzles that had no reason to even exist, but were placed in a spot for you to think about them for a second, like having one switch that opens a door one level above, just so you could turn valve that opens door one floor lower. Why make it two switches on two floors? They could use one switch that opens the important door. Ghosthunter is another example, one level has you running through a sunken ship and plenty of rooms in the engine room have no purpose. Just empty walls, no assets, but copy-pasted stairwells on one side of the ship to another so you're like a mouse in a labyrinth. In Forbidden Siren most puzzles are about finding a key. There's like 20 different keys in a game that open different doors, locks, chains, some of which can be found only by replaying stages, some of them only by commanding your escort to hide in a specific place. Speaking of which, why most metroidvanias have completely pointless rooms, whole corridors of nothing but cannon fodder to kill? It's one thing when you're backtracking to access previously locked area, but usually you're doing a sewwing machine backtracking, back and forth, going through the same enemies and even unlocking shortcuts or quick travel points aren't helping much. Plenty of times I was just looking at a map to choose the shortest route so I can play the game less. I'd say in FIST I was looking at map like 30% of total playtime.In conclusion, games fucking suck. At the end of the day 2D is about going left to right just to go up and then go right to left, and with 3D you're just doing staircases with corridors between them.
>>542424462Still not working on your game, Grassfag? Sheesh, no wonder you're such a loser.
>>542424668Wagies actually make money.
>>542424796>>542424120This guy isn't a wagie and seems to be making money though?
>>542424794And where are the YouTube shorts to advertise your game>Uh, I'll take it seriously towards the last month of developmentTake one look at >>542423403 over there. Start early, get 112 reviews for the demo. Sacrifice your time with 4chan if it means this week gives you 2 shorts to post.
>>542424641>spend 10,000 hours on a game and make $250>when you tell people this half of them call you a pathetic loser flop and the other half scream at you about humble bragging with tears in their eyes and clenched fiststhere is really no winning in this place
>>542424120>>542424524Look at your sales graph. It will tail out. A great update or sale might do 20-50% of your sales peak. Is that enough for you to keep working on it?
>60 review Roguelite turns into another RogueliteA fate worse than death
>>542425042He's not bragging about $250, he's bragging about $250 a day. Also no one's called him a loser flop.
>>542424794
>>542425451powerful
>>542425010You don't even have a functioning game and you're lecturing me? Besides, aren't you the one who refuses to share his game's name because you're such a scared little bitch over people, you know, PLAYING it?
>>542425048>A great update or sale might do 20-50% of your sales peakI think these types of rules apply to big games with big marketing budgets and publishers who make sure that the entire target audience knows the game exists before releasing. they don't seem to have any bearing on games with zero marketing/exposure where a single youtube video or viral tiktok can literally 100x your sales overnight
>>542412878>I like making gamesis very different from>I am a famous yesdev
>>542425395>bragging about making the same amount of money as a cashier at mcdonalds
I was filming progress but then I realized I fucking hate you worthless faggots and I don't want to share my joy with any of you. especially because you are losers, energy vampires, joy thieves, and poor third world pedophiles.
>>542420406What genre, senpai?
Moooooom! The schizos are fighting again!
>>542423319i literally five minutes ago got an idea to make a monster catcher game. how far have you gotten so far and how difficult is it to do? on paper it doesn't seem to bad
>>542425856Yoooo where can I be a cashier for 90k a year? I'll do that.
>>542424049why not use inpaint on existing porn to change faces/add whatever features or accessories you need and then edit the skin/hair color etc manually with photoshop
>Moooooom! The schizos are fighting again!
Wow is TikTok really the answer......
>>542426121In the US the starting wage for cashiers is $20 an hour, you can easily make that much if you put in any effort at all and that's before massive pay bumps for bonuses and overtime pay.
>>542426243because AI can't do anything but 1girl, solo, standing pose.anything with more than 1 character breaks the models.
>>542426283i look like this
>>542425687Banking on your game going viral after launch isn't exactly a great strategy.
>>542426357but if you use inpaint then you can change one character at a time instead of both at once so it doesn't break, i've tried it...
yesdev hours
>>542426303that's what I'm trying to say, people on here worship weirdos like that zuckowski guy who takes AAA and III steam market data and tries to apply it to micro indie games with no marketing or budget. its a completely different ball game and one insane video could get you 10k sales in a day (and another 5k over the following week)
Both dudefag and grassgoon have no progress
>>542426474It takes less effort and time to just draw the thing rather than using inpaint.It's like trying to draw using dice rolls.
https://files.catbox.moe/b8ifkk.midI really like how this sounds
How valuable of an asset is it to have a small gaming-related YouTube channel to promote your game?Anyone have examples of being able to leverage an audience?
>>542426642virus
>>542426389you have made up your mind and don't want to ever entertain outside opinions, but you don't have to go viral to convert videos into sales. 100 simple videos with 10k views is equivalent to a video with 1mil views and results in the same sales. it also depends on how "complete" your game is at release. most people never update their game in any significant way regardless of a 1.0 launch or EA launch. the reason games flatline after launch is that devs literally just give up and move on to something else
>>542426013>>542426283There is no fight, the refusal to prioritize YouTube shorts over thread presence is a genuine flaw. Place the two on a scale and YouTube wins every time, because it generates reviews.
>>542426565
>>542426389it depends on the game
>>542426762it's a midi file
>>542426336$20/hr is 40k a year dipshit.
look at this nigga>>>/v/723102301
>>542426565Wait, who's dudefag? How am I supposed to keep up with all the fucking monikers in this place
>>542427102Oh sorry I forgot it's illegal to work over time. Very good point my kind gentle sir
>>542426565i dont look like this
>>542427457You'd have to work over 85hrs a week to buy 90k dipshit
>>542426854If you believe you can do it then why are you asking us?
>>542427739the point of putting forth an argument is to see how it holds up to criticism, that is the purpose of discussion and seeking truth. why do you think people share thoughts and ideas? what purpose does discussion hold for you? if someone believes themselves to be "correct" they should speak to others in an attempt to challenge their own views
>>542427190>Speech-Ka when he sees the green dragon
Ready to apologize?
>>542423403>>542426303>Is TikTok really the answer?Yes
>>542427717Closer to 60 with time and a half over time pay which is a legal requirement at every US company.
>>542428484Wow. If it can work for this freak truly it can work for anyone. That is insane.
>>542370296even as a joke, when disney can force you into arbitration for basically nothing after killing your wife just because you signed a random EULA years ago for some other unrelated product its just not worth taking up retarded terms like thatas much as a judge would probably throw out the case if one of the games here make it and you try claiming rights to it with this there's always the off chance that it actually makes it throughwhy bother going through any of that risk for a tiny show like this
>>542426734I have just over 8,000 subscribers and I put my small game front and centre. The video has made $0.50 and hasn't really driven any traffic to the itch page.You need to be a huge following to have modest impact.
>>542428923anon...
>>542428484How does this transfer over to the Steam page if there's no link?>People will look up the game name, duhI doubt that crowd knows how to highlight and then Search Google.
>>542428729No it's not
>>542416812you had to see the kind of shit this fuckin faggot used to comment in the code
>>542429497>How does this transfer over to the Steam page if there's no link? I doubt that crowd knows how to highlight and then Search Google.When people really want to play a game they gonna search for it, no link is necessary.
>>542430380Trump should have banned TikTok for longer so that we're all equal. Making me do more work here.
>>542428073Your form of 'discussion' seems to be getting mad at people who don't simp for you.
>>542418878cookies
>>542431232kino kino kino
>>542430380always felt like you had something with this project, glad to have seen your skill improve over the DDs! you're gmi
I'm going to sue the guy who invented video games for ruining my life
>>542430670internet conversation becomes completely pointless if typing more than 5 words at a time results in people pretending you are mad at them (i am not and never was mad about any replies)
Why aren't you creating your own engine?
>>542431840I'm a gamedev, not a programmer.
>>542431840I did
>>542431232looks doughy and cinamon. Nice
>>542426018It's not really that hard. I delayed and delayed for a long time because I hate doing UI shit but starting with the basics that GameFreak did (FIGHT, ITEM, POKEMON, RUN, but renamed obviously) and start building out from there, it's not too difficult. I just have a love/hate relationship with coding.So it gets frustrating when, for example, I finally figure where in my code I was accidentally stopping the player from being able to Z-lock onto a second monster after defeating a first one, I then try to throw a ball at the second monster and now a second battle doesn't trigger. So I have to also go searching for what's causing that bug.Once I get through all this and have the battle mechanics to a satisfactory level then it will be on to some really fun, more modular coding shit. Like where and how different types will spawn, adding some basic survival mechanics like hunger, thirst, fatigue so players finally get that feeling of going out into the wild to battle and catch monsters. The thought of doing stuff like that, and even adding a train as a form of fast travel, is helping to keep me motivated.My plan is, when I get a bit fatigued from this big project, to go back and finish off one of my smaller demos/prototypes that aren't meant to be full games.
I've been playing around with some main menu buttons. Aside from that, I have been building an arena in blender.
Regarding a pokemon clone, what do you guys think about the odds of Nintendo trying to copyright rape me if I initially reach out to them to make it a Switch 2 exclusive?If Nintendo allowed a little indie pokemon clone as a Switch 2 exclusive it would cause a huge amount of anti-Nintendo seething for selective targeting of monster catchers based on their platform of release. But honestly, that could also be great free press for the game.I think in the end Palworld and other such titles will be okay once Nintendo is told by the courts that they're insanely overreaching. But like I said, if people notice that an indie monster catcher is being left alone un-raped it could get me some free attention by neckbeard slop youtubers that hate Nintendo for making some of their games download keys but meanwhile they suck Gaben's cheesy little cock despite him basically single handedly ending physical PC games that came with comfy guide books and art books and shit.
>>542431559Thanks!! to put the number into perspective, Dungeon Watchers only got 495 whilst after 5 months, and at launch it had 559, Guns and Nuns steam page have less than 2 months and already have 1776, it keep going up and the people are openly showing more interest about it. I had plans on participating in this October Steam fest, but... I decided it will be better to try gain wishlist and be part of February's steam fest next year. I am working on launching a demo some time after this October's steam fest finish. The part that makes more happy, is that some tiktok users found the prototype on Newgrounds which doesn't have gravity mechanics, one enemy type and only the gold desert eagles, and they like it a lot and say they can't wait to play the new demo. Now I am finishing the result screen, replacing the old effects with new ones using the VFX graph in Unity, adding simple gore system and a leaderboard.
>>542434510good stuff. i havent played it last DD so if you upload it to this next one, i'll play it.godspeed
>>542424353>implying the only way to build an audience is me specifically making videosRetard.
>>542433886As long as you don't make a huge impact as most mon-clones do, then Nintendo doesn't give a shit about your existence.If you approach Nintendo with your offer, you'll likely be brushed off as an unserious business partner.That's of course assuming your game doesn't look like a serious threat. I suggest work on your game and if it's really blowing up in popularity, then consider your offer to appease Nintendo.
>>542433886>Pokémon CloneJust clone Digimon World 3 who manages to be different enough even though it clones the Gym plot. Those games had the Dinosaur type which doesn't exist in Pokémon.
>>542435084You're right. I'm too much of a pissant at the moment. Unfortunately I think this means not being able to share demos on places like itch.io. If it picked up steam and people started to pay attention, I think Nintendo would want a true platform exclusive, which would mean frowning on even prototypes available on the web. But I don't know, maybe there's some precedent for a console platform courting some title that was initially going to be multiplat and getting them to pull their demos from rival platforms?
>>542435868I fucking hated Digimon from the moment it came out. I was also starting to get too old for Pokemon by that stage but yeah I definitely couldn't even force myself to see what Digimon is all about in order to be able to clone it.I'm definitely doing the gym format though. Nintendo and GameFreak don't own boss fights ffs lol. It just blows me away how they think they can copyright such broad stroke concepts. Imagine if Romero tried to sue every fucking first person shooter that came after Doom and Wolfenstein that had weapon reloading and shotguns lol.
>>542433886This post gives off major ideaguy nodev vibes. Nintendo wouldn't give a shit unless you're doing a straight rip off or using their characters. PalWorld is only getting sued because it went viral and there were rumours of the devs stealing assets.
>>542370109use stableprojectorz
>>542436813I have submitted 2 demos here before, that was just a good few years ago now. I got surprisingly positive feedback despite them being babby's first demos. People like the enemy models in The Ballad of Deadeye Chambers but holy shit was the player controller bad lol. And people said my short horror experience The Gloomtide Charter had a whole bunch of issues but that it was pretty good for a first attempt.Don't download either of them please, because I think the last updates back then were completely broken (again, didn't know what I was doing) so you can't even finish the demo levels now lol.Since then I've been doing a CS degree which did help with programming but I'd been too busy to be a yesdev. Now I'm throwing myself back into it and WILL be producing at least a prototype just to see if you guys like it. But even as a pared back indie project, it will be quite ambitious for one person. So interest would have to be quite intense for me to commit to it.
>>542437418
>>542437487There's actually a version of that with my map in it from when I shared it last year lol.
what are some games to inspire while making a named alchemy game?
1st small VN project in Ren'py, or 1st small VN project in Godot?I'd like to do complex effects and minigames in a future project, which would be much easier in Godot. But Ren'py is easier and dialogic is kinda stinky.
>>542434510thanks for that comparisonby looking those wishlists growing is more obvious to me that the new meta for devs is to make their own marketing, which makes me wonder, is steam really that helpful now?>>542430380>When people really want to play a game they gonna search for itwhat would happen if a dev redirects to other site?
im working on something cool
>>542420879just use ai retard
>>542437995maybe you should make a game where you don't need to copy from other games to make it
>>542438773cite one example of a game that didn't copy something from another
>>542381929The tutorials in Galduen of the Void need improvement. The red highlights should be flashing red and white because they're too passive as they are. Also, you should not be able to touch any other buttons other than the highlighted in the tutorials, I got them messed up at least twice. The biggest problem for me however is that I don't know how to progress at all when entering the main game even after seeing all the tutorials. This screen, as I posted here, doesn't appear on any tutorial for instance. I really don't know what to do to get a single rocket off the ground.Other than that, I thought the character dialogue was charming, and the game is very pretty to look at and soothing, too bad I don't know how to play it.
>>542438306Me too.
>>542433346Impressive, but I'm wondering if that game will gather any interest. I guess you really need to work on character models and make a lot of waifus.
>>542438849tetris
>>542439131I'm working on something hot.
>>542433346Looks good anon
>cris thread got nuked from /v/I wish we had jannies who cared
I'm going to go with anime style for my 3d game because I don't like the ps1 aesthetic and realistic modelling will take a lot of time and resources. Don't bully me, mmkay
>>542426538>people on here worship weirdos like that zuckowski guyNobody is worshipping him. That's your raging inferiority complex and insecurity talking. There are no "ecelebs" in videogame development. That's a term actual weirdos like you use because you literally think people are being "worshipped" by being mentioned in a thread with 100 users.
>you guys need to listen to me okay>you need to make titktoks and youtube shorts this is the secret key to marketing your game okay>thats what Im trying to say It's crazy that people get dopamine from acting like this. Spouting common sense stuff and acting like it's their unique take on something.
>>542439730>an aggy game>using an anime style
>>542440451It will also feature a hot anime girl as protag and boomer graphics, did I mention it will be an fps?
>>542430380>>542428484>500k views converted into less than 2k wishlistslmao at this rate you'll hit 50k wishlists with around 13m views
>>542440598NO PICKLES!
>>542440284I didn't even know tiktok was still around.
>>542440284Because there's a handful of dedicated retards that try and sabotage people by posting that games magically sell themselves over and over and that gives the impression that /agdg/ doesn't know what marketing is.
>>542440284agdg doesn't have common sense. 90% of the marketing people do here is realise that they're 1 month away from release, have a panic attack, and start feverishly posting on twitter and reddit to practically zero engagement. The thought of telling people that your game exists is utterly repulsive and terrifying. Even the prospect of posting progress in this thread is far too much to ask of the average aggy dev, so why would they showcase their game on "normie" websites?No just quietly release and wait for people to magically find your game. Then your genius will be validated, youll be a millionaire, and you'll get your harem of cosplaying gfs. It's just that simple.
>aggy
>chan
>>542440728i bet you live with cockroaches
>>542440857Only reason I don't post my game here anymore is because fagoon started spamming my forum with fake criticism
>>542433012nice, wish you best of luck
I want to say it
>>542441458nu-pokemon
>>542440857erm, but I'd rather be poor than risk being poor and embarrassed
>>542440857It's amateur game development, let people learn the hard way or make zero dollars. Anyone who is taking this seriously will do their job and watch THE ZUK GOD and anyone who doesn't care will not do that and will flop. It doesn't make sense really to pay any attention to how games from here perform. People who do that are usually not making games and are just backseat driving and living vicariously and seething about people who actually did manage to release a game.
>>542441849zuckberg has gamedev videos? link?
I'm going to ask for some help with game design.What's a good control scheme for combat?See, I'm trying to design everything around a singular attack button. And in the case of good hack n slashes, there is an attack for sending enemies skywards, but I'm not sure how to really incorporate it.>Combo 1. A-A-A = Basic three slash combo>Single Attack 1. Hold/Release A = Stab. Can be done at any point in the previous combo>Directional Slash. A-Mouse up/down/left/right. A slash in one of four directions. You can’t use the same direction twice though>Directional Slash. A-Mouse up/down/left/right. A slash in one of four directions. You can’t use the same direction twice though>Combo 2. A-Pause-A-A = Slash, overhead, upper swing>Combo 3. A-A-Right-Left mouse A = Two slashes and a spin that, if you press A two more times, becomes 3 hits.>Single Attack 2. Left/Right stance while Hold Release A = Massive swing that can send enemies flying>Single Attack 3. Run (Maybe) while Hold/Release A = A lunging thrust>Fling attack. Hold and release A while moving mouse up = Upper swing that can send smaller enemies flying and momentarily stun larger ones unless they’re too big>Air Combo 1. A-A-A midair = 3 slash attack midair>Air Combo 2. A-A-Pause-A = Two slashes and an overhead spin slash>Air single attack. Jump + A midair = Upwards spinslash>Spike attack. Hold A midair = Slam sword attackI'm not sure if the mouse thing is a good idea, seems kinda clunky.
you're not taking this seriously enough
>>542441849I'm still in pre-production(8 years)
>>542442045>bunch of amateurs *Scoffs*
>>542442009wait what
>>542441458i love mesugaki lolis
I stopped using Unity a year ago because the AI integration was in terrible shape. Three months ago, I decided to give it another chance and used the one-month free AI package — the results were acceptable. Two months ago, I purchased the Unity AI Ultimate package. This month, almost all of my credits were gone within just one week.They may change the AI pricing for new customers, but that’s not the product I originally paid for. I feel scammed. You can’t make active customers pay for the consequences of your own calculation errors.Yesterday, I requested a refund for both the "Unity AI Ultimate" and "Unity Pro" licenses. Has anyone successfully received a refund?
You're taking this too seriously
>>542442204I know.I just don't know if it's doable, not in the literal sense but more in the sense of "Does this even work as a system?"
>>542442230>—
few days ago I posted an image with pipes and concrete blocks and shit and mentioned the BABBDI / STRAFTAT workflow and aesthetic, if anyone remembers or cares the one click damage add-on is insane, pic related this is just cube projection and cylinder projection for the pipes, two textures total, braindead easy to texture this way we /envirofag/ now
>>542442009Mouse controls can add depth, but yeah, they might feel clunky if not smooth.Maybe keep the mouse for directional aiming or special moves only, not all attacks.Focus on tight, responsive inputs—combo chaining feels more fluid without constant mouse flicks.Split the skyward fling into a dedicated "hold A + up" move for clarity, not a whole separate input.
>>542442230read the fine print. no refunds
>>542441991Zukowski, a marketing guy weirdos seethe about because he's an expert and is actually listened to.https://www.youtube.com/live/WezMZrk32M4&t=1827
>>542442325>one click damageare you using the blender damage addon?
>>542442325I remember. weirdly I want to play it in wireframe too. looks cool
>>542442264w-what? what did he say
>>542442525https://www.youtube.com/WezMZrk32M4&t=1825
>>542442325soul vs souless
>>542440857>No just quietly release and wait for people to magically find your game.That is unironically how it works for most indie games. The vast majority of successful indie games had zero marketing and were successful entirely by word of mouth. Marketing as a whole is completely redundant if your game is good because the fans are already spreading word of it, or completely useless if your game is bad because people who play it warn everyone not to fall for the marketing.If your game fails, it's not because you didn't market it, it's because you made a bad game. No good game has ever failed to be noticed due to a lack of marketing.
>>542438910>improvement>I got them messed up>I don't know how to progress at all>I really don't know what to doforget it anon, azuredev is a retard
>>542442525rogue-like horse game with horror elements
>>542442387The real question is what is "up" in this context?A jump button?
>>542442525>>542442656>timestamp doesn't work>embeds don't workInternet gets gayer everyday.
>>542442690dreamquest bros...
>>542442690Nobody listen to any of this. Maximum delulu.
>>542442812https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezMZrk32M4&t=1827fixedretard
>>542442541aye
im making something super cool
>>542443280>/watch?v=Oh yeah I had to add that manually before, I forgot. I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOUR HELP DON'T TOUCH ME
>>542443464what's cool these days? do kids still like mechs?
>>542442690>Marketing as a whole is completely redundant if your game is goodThen why does the entire industry including AAA do marketing? Do you think everyone is just a retard who wants to throw time and money away?
>>542444141>Do you think everyone is just a retard who wants to throw time and money away?
>>542443790>do kids still like mechs?unc...
>>542443674too late
>>542443790Kids these days like n*****s, pride flags and Palestine.
>>542444313>le reaction image
>>542444506Hamas Like rocket tubesMechs can have big racks of missile tubes...
>>542428385I am sorry that I ever listened to you
>>542444141What AAA does is not really "marketing." What they do is spend so much money on publicity as to create an atmosphere of "everyone's buying this so you should too" to get conformists to buy without regard to the quality of the product. And sometimes they don't even succeed at that if the product is just that bad enough.You as an indie do not have the resources to be going for conformist baiting and should not confuse it with marketing. As an indie your "marketing" is making a product so good that customers rave about it and tell all their friends to buy it. As an indie the ONLY that matters is the quality of your product.
>make [bad game] but good
>>542445212>As an indie the ONLY that matters is the quality of your product.Marketing and promoting your game is essential. Nobody is succeeding by shadow dropping "good" games on the market and hoping that everyone runs out and promotes the game for them. What you're spreading is pure uncut delusion and it should be mocked.
>>5424452121750 from Nuns & Guns over there is pretty hard to refute. I'd love to get an extra 1000 from out of nowhere.
>>542444423you cant peg a girl
>>542442690>>542445212So do wishlists just not matter?
>>542445742>Nobody is succeeding by shadow dropping "good" games on the market and hoping that everyone runs out and promotes the game for themHappened with Vampire Survivors, Stardew Valley, Undertale, Minecraft, literally every indie game that this general obsesses over
good games market themselves
>>542445934Wishlists and marketing are useless
>>542446000You are completely delusional.
Gonna make my day own pokemon game but edgier and more mature here's the first design I made. Just 297+ more to go to populate a whole game lol
>>542446000>stolen assets>stolen assets and nepo baby>stolen assets and nepo baby again>massive contribution from the communitywow great examples bro
>>542446000>Stardew ValleyThe dev promoted it for years while it was being developed. >UndertaleSame as above. Massive fanbase already waiting for the game to drop.>MinecraftLiterally marketed and promoted with a demo for years HERE ON 4CHAN. In fact Minecraft did exactly the marketing meta Zukowski talks about here >>542441849There's just no better way to illustrate how delusional this "just b good" take is then to watch you guys try to explain yourself, as you always reveal that you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>542446168here you go bestie
>>542446168soul>>542446627soulless
>>542446627did you slop that TWICE?
>>542446739I bet you look at your poop in the toilet and call it soul, then say souless after flushing
>>542446082Yeah good games buy ads for themselves and make videos of themselves on youtube and tiktok and gather wishlists themselves. Make a good enough game and it will run your steam storefront for you. Real devs know.
>>542446957post game
>>542446627>>542446786kek
>>542447029bing marmoreal
>>542446627ngl this slaps
>>542446627You just made my designs worse
>>542447029Don't cry. You embarrass yourselves bullshitting like this. Eat your crow.
give gamers what they want
>>542447398faceless generic males? you got it!
how do i design little girls without outing myself as a pedophile
>>542447504say they're from russian cartoons and name them alice
>scratch my butthole>it's wetwtf
Good games buy themselves.
>>542447504There's a difference between loli drawn by pedos and loli drawn by normal people. However, it's not worth doing because your artistic style will prefer to reveal your true nature.The only way around it is to get non-pedo artists to draw it for you.
>>542447792>your artistic style will prefer to reveal your true nature.
>>542446520You have no idea what marketing and shadowing dropping even is if you're getting them confused. If releasing your first demo counts as marketing then there is literally no difference between shadow dropping and marketing.
>>542447398Why does the brunette look high on drugs?
>>542447504Play it straight and don't be weird about it or just live with it.
>>542446957Name a single successful indie game that bought ads and made their own youtube and tiktok videos.Good games get fans, fans make that stuff for you.>>542446520See above.
>>542447979>You have no idea what marketing and shadowing dropping even is if you're getting them confused.tf are you talking about. Nobody is confusing those things.>If releasing your first demo counts as marketing then there is literally no difference between shadow dropping and marketing.Umm yes there is. Shadow dropping is just dropping the game on the market when nobody has seen it or played it yet. I.E. no marketing or promotion.Can you retards stop arguing about things you have no idea about. What makes you like this?
unity or godot?
>>542448241godot fr
>>542448134>Name a singleNo. You're making embarrassing and stupid arguments and just spreading your delusional copes, you've received enough attention. You're never going to actually release a game anyway you just want to keep larping like you know things about gamedev.
>>542448198When you release anything for the first time, nobody has seen it or played it yet by definition.What indies do is release a good game, which gets traction and blows up, prompting the indie to add more to it later. But apparently if you label your first release as a "demo" this somehow counts as "marketing" even though that's not what marketing is?
Good games install themselves.
>>542448391>You're never going to actually release a game anyway you just want to keep larping like you know things about gamedev.I am speaking exactly from personal experience of shipping a bad game. Marketing was completely useless because the game itself was bad. The only thing that could have saved it was if the game had been good instead.
Good games play themselves.
Will you get mad if I make a new thread now? >.<
>>542447398one of those is a hag
>>542448742go ahead
>>542448626Make a "good" game now and shadow drop it and enjoy your 2nd flop.
>>542448735The best games are idle games, so yeah. Maximum reward for minimum effort.
>>542448047basedis that a red clover pin?
>>542448913Making a good game takes time, but hopefully you'll still be alive to see it when I ship.
>>542448924>>542448924>>542448924
>>542449169Pathetic.
>>542449031Gonna be some kind of flower
>>542448742Make a real thread not this >>542449169
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>>542448913It's genuinely disturbing how agdg is rabidly against making good games.
>>542448834>>542449375Waited for 750 replies because some anons get upset when I make threads before thread limit. A certain someone doesn't care and beat me to it.Here:>>542449281
>>542449397>>542449654Fixed, this was earlier, spammer>>542448924>>542448924>>542448924
>>542449169>>542450196How can you possibly have ended up butthurt and in some kind of drama with nortubel of all people? Like how terminally nodev and agdg are you?
Must be that retard who doxed himself yesterday, the one who has been spamming gore. Sad to even know that such subhumans have attached themselves to agdg.
>>542446168Noice. I would give the little guy at least some exposed bone, like a hint of what's to come from the later 2 stages.Mine is also going to be more mature in terms of difficulty and mechanics, but still cute monsters for the most part. But I'll have to do some of the obligatory fucked up descriptions about devouring people's souls or dying if they fall asleep etc.
>>542450396sounds like fygoon trying to "cancel" him while pretending that spamming gore isn't that bad
