Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith./ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc https://youtu.be/aveDvd66xlk>PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4s>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFwhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG>Dissidia Duelum Final Fantasy https://youtu.be/zLM7V3jrNNc>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy Brave Exviushttps://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml>Final Fantasy XIVhttps://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/Previous thread: >>542522891
III won. Yoshida won. IX won. OO won. RK won. Matsuno won. Nomura won. Jack won.
XVI is still a bad game.
>>543131558The FPBP Chad FF enjoyer!!>543131565the spwp virgin ff hater...
>>543131565Still better than XIII.
>>543131565FPBP
>>543131198strange image>>543131558>>543131898Based and true!
tactics ogre or ff tactics?
Please, before you make negative remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, I want you to remember that Naoki Yoshida is a human being.
Yoshi P must be pretty based if he's mindbreaking this guy into spamming every thread.
>>543132667you made this thread on /v/ alreadyFF Tactics is superior due to Final Fantasy elements, Job system, better story, art.There's no point in choosing one over the other though, they're made by the same guy.Play and enjoy both.Buy Tactics Ivalice Chronicles today.
>>543131565It’s crazy that Pokémon Legends Z-A has better cooldown-based combat than XVI.
>>543134332It's crazy that Yoshida lives rentfree in your head to a point that you have a daily meltdown.
>nintoddler hates Final Fantasynot surprised
As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Matsuno, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, or E33 we will be fine.As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, or Sakaguchi we will be fine.>!!! DISCLAIMER !!!Please take the above warnings seriously. Matsuno's name has never been attached to anything that wasn't a 10/10 masterpiece. XIV may be total dogshit (even the parts that people say are supposedly good), but the Matsuno parts (Return to Ivalice and Bozja scenarios) are the highlight of the entire MMO and it's almost worth playing XIV just to experience them, that's how good they are.
>>543134896>reddit pacinglolSpotted the falseflagging tourist.
>>543134332Really? kek
>>543135149Why do you answer your own posts?
tendies need to go back
>>543135020You have no idea what reddit spacing is. That's okay, most newfags don't. If you weren't around before 2011 when Reddit invaded, and if you didn't live through the Reddit invasion you'd have no idea of knowing the diference between line breaks and Reddit spacing. People like you just screech at posts you dislike with newfag terminology you don't even understand. My post is neither Reddit spaced, nor a false flag, nor am I a tourist. Those are simply the official approved /ffg/ opinions to have.
>>543134449Sad but true
>>543135020You struck a nerve, the redditor is malding again.
>>543132667We love Matsuno, no matter the context. If two different games have the same person's name attached to them, then they are equally as good or as bad as each other. All things with Matsuno's name on them are equally as good as each other. There's no point in having a preference for one over the other, because it's still Matsuno either way.
https://x.com/FFVIIR_CLOUD/status/1979381926646681750You can barely tell the difference, Hamaguchi did a great job.
>>543134896Matsunohater-kun absolutely seething
>>543136124I saw that. Someone said they liked some of Matsuno's stuff but not all of Matsuno's stuff. Namely, they liked Matsuno's single player games but did not like his work in XIV. That is not okay. Everyone must love everything that Matsuno has ever done, unconditionally. Thank you for always upholding the correct opinion for the /ffg/.
>>543135924I'm going to laugh my ass off if the Xbox and Switch versions launch with broken NPC faces
>>543137363The VIIRgin tears would be delicious...
Crisis Core Reunion is a better game than Rebirth.
>>543143790Not a high bar
I refuse to play Duellum.
>>543144963I'm gonna play it but I'm not gonna like itI can't miss out on any potential lore expansion leading into Part 3
>>543144963The new revelation that Nomura is closely tied to Dissidia has made me rethink my stand on Duellum. Maybe we should all play it. If you don't play it, you're a Nomura hater. This new information I was unaware of also reframes the years of shitposting I did about Opera Omnia.
>>543144963>still mad that Clive is in the gameWe get it, you're a Yoshida hater
>>543132820Thank you. We must do everything we can to protect Yoshi-P from harm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSkmcefzpyE>comments saying, "Oh that's why he could summon his sword! That's why he doesn't use a sheath!/Why he can make it longer!"I feel like after seeing Sephiroth do what he can do, it wasn't a huge leap or surprise to assume he could will his sword away or make it longer. The dude could already astral project, summon Meteor, and rend realities; the more the surprising thing is how many bottles of shampoo he uses, and that he uses actually uses shampoo and bathes
>>543146125This shouldn't be surprising but no one was even thinking about clive.
>>543131198Fucking lmao wtf happened?Did this shitty general died from inactivity?
Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
>>543150451Whatever happens in the story or gets added to the lore of FFVII, it makes sense and it's good
>>543145381>>543145949>>543155198A simple question is all it takes, it seems
>>543150451When I saw that Nomura said "the Masamune's blade has an organic quality to it", I immediately wrote it off a clearly a joke, and I made sure that my perceived enemies could not explore the idea in open discussion, and I ridiculed them to believing that there was any real veracity to this statement. They're just Aerith schizos after all. However, as time went on and the statement seemed to actually be true, I began to see the genius of it, and I realized that it was supported by the compilation material and that this additional piece of lore delivered via the canon gacha game actually made the story better. I still will not allow my enemies to talk about this, however, for fear that other people may not have realized the genius of it yet, which might result in negative or neutral opinions about the Remake trilogy to be formed.
>>543150451Bravo, Nomura, you've done it again. Final Fantasy VII was always Kingdom Hearts.
>>543156215Hi NPC
>>543156554>NPCWhich namefag is this one?
>>543155925>rattled by others saying things he agrees withvery strange
>>543155925What was the question?
>>543156554>>543156997Off-topic
>>543157230Sorry, I was hallucinating posts again. You'd be amazed how often it happens. And how rarely I want to admit it.
"The Masamune's blade has an organic quality to it"> ~ Aerithfag
>>543157661This is what the story of FF7 was missing
I can't believe /ffg/ died on the same day we got this hype af lorebomb to discuss
>Talk about FF>Spammy bot goes insane
>>543157950It's still missing one piece to be the truly complete masterpiece that it always was. I'm looking forward to how Tetsuya Nomura is going to resolve the Cloud, Zack, Buster Sword, and corrupted Buster Sword dilemma. After all, we did see Cloud place the Black Materia into the Buster Sword at the end of Rebirth, and it is possible via the new lore delivered to us in Tetsuya Nomura's canon gacha game, Ever Crisis, that Angeal's Buster Sword might be able to counteract the influences of Jenova in some way. The real genius lies in what he is going to do with the fact that Cloud might have a Buster Sword currently corrupted by the Black Materia in the real timeline, while Zack might have an uncorrupted Buster Sword (Angeal's) in the Lifestream timeline. There's also the question of how Aerith's Lifesteam self will factor into this.
>>543158484Listen, the organic masamune and its origins are very cool and interesting and expand the world in a good way. This buster sword stuff is lame.Then again, if they did expand the lore of the buster sword and explained it and we saw the intention behind the addition... well there's a very good chance I'd like it and not be okay with others not liking it. But until then this buster sword stuff is bad.
>>543158971Understandable. Genius takes time to comprehend. When Copernicus posited that the Earth revolved around the Sun and not the other way around, people didn't like it initially either. But slowly, over time, people began to accept it as fact and see the genius in it.
we really need to retire this general
>>543134449>le…RENT FREE!A response so uncreative it would make Yoshida proud.
>>543159231Similarly, someone can imagine posts that ask a question that nobody else can see. But perhaps in time, the question will reveal itself, and those who once sounded completely insane will turn out to have been the most wise.
>>543144963Billions are saying this.
>>543159231Saved
>>543134449You struck a nerve, the fatherless had to think four (4) hours to come up with the weakest repartee I saw in ages.
>>543159642It’s just a shitposting jamboree occurring on the decaying corpse of a once-celebrated series. It’s time to bury, mourn, and move on.
>>543135149>elemental weaknesses>party members>status effects>held items/accessories that actually do something Yes.
>>543160364I believed that the honor of VIIR and Nomura were being attacked, so I had to retaliate by deflecting to Yoshida. Discussion of the new lore in VIIR usually has this effect on me.
>>543160364Weak responses oftentimes lead to weak counter responses
>>543161173What do you think of the newly confirmed absolute fact that Sephiroth's Masamune has an organic quality to it?
>>543160364Please be understanding, the fatherless had to stop shaking first, then cry, then have a sad nap, then finally start thinking on how to answer to a really accurate on-the-nose post.
Aerisu!
Imagine dedicating your entire internet existence to defending a washed up game producer that doesn’t even know you exist. Couldn’t be me.
Sometimes I get the distinct feeling that VIIR's biggest defender actually hates it more than anyone else does. He has historically been wrong about literally everything and has spent possibly hundreds of hours defending the game from speculation that has all turned out to be true.
7R was a mistake. We should have returned to Ivalice or IX instead.
>>543131198>Tina's birthday >chooses a non FF image for the OPI see that a shitposter baked this thread
>>543131198Also you fucked up Real previous thread btw >>542766819
>>543164847That is a Final Fantasy image though.
>>543165152No it isn't
>>543165152Don't engage the contrarian, it only seeks to ruin the thread out of petty spite against his natural superiors as dictated by nature.
>>543164847>>543164949You let the last thread die by not posting.
>>543165371Naruhodo.
>>543165409BUT I'M ENTITLED TO DECIDE WHAT GOES IN THE OP ANYWAY!!! BECAUSE I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER OF LIFE!!!!!
>>543164847>>543164949We had no thread for hours. Nothing was stopping you making one.
>>543166645Shut up shut up! I didn't do anything useful but I still feel entitled to whining and bitching!
>>543166645God bless whoever keeps making these threads. Lots of good Final Fantasy discussion to be had here.
>>543166831It was gone for a while. I thought we were finally free.
>>543167432You can leave.
>>543167496If everyone leaves the thread dies again. We’re in a Noel(XIII-2) at the end of time situation already. No one is left.
>>543165531I'm glad you finally understand how's the boss here
>>543167818>how's the bossWhy, yes he is.
Why did you not link the correct previous thread?
>>543167818>how's the bossFine, thanks.
Ivalice Chronicles english voice acting is badMalak sounds like they got a guy from the food cart outside the building where they were doing recording. Every actor but like the top 5 most professional has voice affectations a high school kid would do
>>543167818I'm good, thanks for asking brudda
>>543168646That's the wrong opinion, and you are now attacking Matsuno. We love everything that Matsuno has ever done, and you're a Matsuno hater if you don't love everything with his name on it. Prepare to face the wrath of the /ffg/.
>>543165409So you admit you didn't link the real previous thread on purpose?Good to know.I'll do the same when I bake the next thread
>>543168883Well everyone is out to get you of course.
>>543168883You seem incredibly insecure about something, though I'm not sure what it could possibly be.
>>543169130>You seem incredibly insecureYes you are
>>543168938A simple question is all it takes, it seems
>>543169368>no uFantastic. I love it. Keep em coming.
>>543169456meant for >>543161526We only began melting down in full force after this question was left unanswered. There are a lot of unanswerable questions on the /ffg/, and this is yet another question to add to the pile of questions that cannot be answered, yet always result in retaliatory melting. Seems like a pretty easy question to answer, too. Especially for someone who defends VIIR for 18 hours per day. Maybe the VIIR defender just doesn't like VIIR as much as one might assume of someone who goes out of his way to defend it from any and all discussion whatsoever.
>>543168646I think it's mostly good. At least as far as English voice acting goes, which is usually always bad. English VA has a terrible tendency to be "doing voices" rather than "acting". I think all the Lucavi-enlightened villains have fantastic VA and direction. The villains are generally all very good. Marak is definitely one of the weaker ones, but I also think Rapha is one of the stronger VAs. To be honest, I think my biggest "issue" is Ramza. I don't really think his demeanor and direction fits with how Ramza goes in my head. Side characters are more forgivable if they are lackluster (like Marak, really the biggest offender), but main characters truly need to have an incredibly strong performance to back up how often they are delivering lines, and I don't feel that Ramza's VA does that. He's not as bad as English Tidus, of course, but he's just kinda "meh".
>>543169946Gaffgarion is terrible, that immediately stuck in my craw
>>543168646>>543169946Oh also, Marak is supposed to be 16, and Rapha is supposed to be 13. So high school affectations is fitting. Ramza is also 16.
>>543170206nooooooo i want my characters to sound like 60-years old chain smokers!!!!
>>543170130I liked Gaffgarion. He sounded like a 50 year old war veteran to me. Very Bri'ish or whatver, but I could see him being a 50 year old war veteran.
>>543170206I mean affectations a high school actor would do in a performance, not affectations a pseudo-elizabethan teenager would have
>>543170370Oh, we have an expert on Elizabethian teenagers.
>>543170370>I mean affectations a high school actor would do in a performance, not affectations a pseudo-elizabethan teenager would haveWell, you're gonna have to start providing actual examples now that you're doubling down on these undefinable criticisms.
>>543170459Why does social media always go to bad for bad voice acting? Are you just defensive about the game (this is better) or is it some parasocial thing with the VAs?
>>543170604Like "I heard an english accent on a TV show once, I will now attempt to duplicate that for the first time in this recording booth, right now" kind of bad affectations
>>543170614>social media >parasocial thing with the VAsI'm not that guy, but you are the one talking about social media and the VAs themselves. Everyone else is talking about their performance. You're describing their performance using undefinable phrases while providing no examples.
>>543170776Which shouldn’t be the case considering a lot of the voice actors are actually British.
>>543170776Most of them, maybe even all of them I'm just too lazy to check, are actually from the UK lol
>>543171165But... Anon said they attempted to imitate UK accent!! Was Anon... le liar??? Why would anyone lie???
>>543171278I think anon is just shitposting. I think it's literally that simple. He walked into the thread, started melting about the OP, and he'll probably just keep shitposting about new topics until he tuckers himself out and has to take his mid-melt nap so that he can win against his enemies later while they are asleep.
>>543171552All of that because I used a XIV picture for the OP? That loser needs a life.
>>543170919I'm honestly shocked Gaffgarion's VA is any kind of british now that I check, I've never heard a less convincing speech pattern of smug middle aged ruffian, I guess "cockney"
FF14 is not final fantasy
>>543171828Wow, just like XVI.
>>543171552I honestly just came in because I wanted to complain about Ivalice Chronicles' voice acting somewhere and there's no thread up in /v/, I haven't even looked at the OP beyond ctrl-f "final fantasy" in /vg/ and making sure it wasn't the MMO thread
>>543171703I guess so. Look, he started himself up again.
>>543172023How sad that he has nothing to do in his life but cry.
>>543172092Sometimes I forget how /vg/ is
>>543171987Well, not only is "dissing" anything related to Matsuno forbidden within the halls of /ffg/, but more importantly the new phrases you coined specifically for the criticisms you have of IC's voice acting is flat out incorrect, so even if it wasn't already against the rules of /ffg/ to say anything bad about anything related to Matsuno you'd still be wrong. You may leave now.
>>543172385Just you wait, he'll find a way to blame this on Yoshida. He's obsessed with that guy who never returns his messages.
first time playing FF (7 remake), and I have 2 questions.1. can u have background for dialogue (im fucking blind and reading is hard)2. should I use english or japanese VA? so far playing with english and it's okay but after hearing that sepiroth dude im thinking about switching
>walks into thread>complains about fake british accents with high school affectations>the voice actors are literally british and half of them are playing kids aged 16 or youngerKEK
>>543172689>1. can u have background for dialogue (im fucking blind and reading is hard)Maybe a mod will let you have that, but most people like the way dialogue is presented in Remake. There is even a mod for FFXI which displays the dialogue the same way Remake does>2. should I use english or japanese VA? so far playing with english and it's okay but after hearing that sepiroth dude im thinking about switchingUp to you. I generally prefer Japanese VA, and for Remake specifically, the mannerisms that the girls have are sometimes extremely Japanese and "kawaii", and it's just incredibly jarring to see that while listening to English. It makes much more sense in Japanese. Plus, the English script is not really the best, and if you listen to it in Japanese (and if you know at least some Japanese from watching anime or whatever) you can more properly discern what is actually being said in cases where the English script differs more than just slightly from the Japanese original.
Just picked up XIII and XIII-2 PS3 for $10.XIII is still shit btw.
first time playing Tactics here. i've trapped a goblin in a corner and learned i can farm levels and JP by throwing rocks at eachother and forcing my white mage to throw potions and spells to heal us while the goblin watches; pleading for death.Any recommendations on where to take Ramza from squire? I was told Monk is a good thing to move to.Also open to early game advice or things i might need in the future.
>>543175760It can be good to get him some white or time magicks so that he can either heal or self buff.Also, try to have a lot of diverse classes, units teach others JP.
>>543175985I remember a story a friend told me of probably not making Ramza a full on buffer since there used to be a fight in the game you can softlock on or something like that. What would you consider me teaching ramza, WHM magic wise? I think i'd like to have him go monk since that can do buffs and healing too apprently. Tailwind is incredibly useful.
>>543173386my only main problem with the english dub is that I don't like new sephiroth, and everyone does the "anime grunt/gasp" too fucking much. which i think they took to heart with rebirth because it doesn't do that nearly as much
>>543176153My Ramza is a dual sword wielding squire/arithmetician that can pretty much do anything
>>543176153>I remember a story a friend told me of probably not making Ramza a full on buffer since there used to be a fight in the game you can softlock on or something like that.Exactly. Ramza's buffs need to be for himself. To put it simply, at several points in the story, Ramza will be locked in a 1vs1, so you want him to be something tanky when that happens, like dragoon or squire.I suggest teaching him healing magick so that he can heal himself better than with potions.And Monk is good at support, they have several debuff removers and a move that let them recover HP and MP, AND it also affects nearby allies. So yeah, either white magick for the healing/protect spells, or monks for the amazing self-recovery?You have some time before it get tough, so feel free to see what works.
>>543175760This was also my first time playing Tactics. I found that Chemist was pretty much god tier at the beginning, but Ninja with the Brawler trait from Monk is pretty much god tier when you can get it or whenever you feel like grinding to get it. The Monk skill (Martial Arts) is also really good and gives you another way to heal and revive without using magic. Get an Orator at some point to annoyingly raise your unit's Bravery to 97 so that their reaction abilities can work better, but until you can get there Auto-Potion (again from Chemist) is also pretty much god tier, as long as you are stocked up on only the highest level potions you have access to.
>>543176512Everyone talks of auto-potion, but I tried it and found it pretty shit.+30 HP doesn't do much when you just ate 180 dmg in the face.
>>543176706>+30 HP doesn't do much when you just ate 180 dmg in the face.That's why I said to stay stocked up on *only* the highest level potions you have access to. If you take 180 to the face and then instantly heal 150, that's a lot better. Plus, like if your units aren't at 97 Bravery, the chance at healing back with Auto-Potion is, imo, a lot better than something like Shirahadori on a unit with 60 bravery. That's just personal opinion though. By the time you can start unlocking the better stuff for your jobs, you can also be farming and poaching Chantage so that all of your units have permanent Reraise, so it kinda doesn't really matter what you do with your units, except for Ramza who must win 1v1
>>543176985Hold up... auto-potion isn't restricted to just potions? Shit, it might be good then.Also, I'm >>543176505, not >>543175760 or >>543176153. Just to clarify.
>>543177171>Hold up... auto-potion isn't restricted to just potions?It uses whatever the lowest level Potion you have is. So you sell your shit Potions and stock up on whatever the best one you have access to is.
>>543175760Something also that at least I didn't think was intuitive is that male units are MUCH better at physical stuff than female units are, and female units are MUCH better at magic stuff than male units are. In the "tactics" games I've played, I'm more used to units being gender locked, so I'm familiar with stuff like this, but in Tactics anyone can be anything, and yet still males are much more suited for physical attacks and females are much more suited for magical attacks.
>>543177376...wait, wait, so, in Final Fantasy IX, who also had auto-potion...brb I need to buy FFIX off steam to check
>>543178352
>>543178551Fuck me of if I knew that, I'd have sold my entire stock and switched to High Potions instead of suffering with the brat sucking at magic and Dagger getting mute.Fucking goddamn useless princess white mage who can't fucking cast a spell.
Anything worth learning on knight
>>543180054Rend Weapon.Ideally you wanna steal it, but it helps.
One true love and kissu~chu! Canon and cute!
>>543180054Knight has Fahr's disease
>>543172092because you scare everyone off and attack them. we can't have a community with you here. Look at this general, it's a ghost town. You've run off everyone who wants to talk about Final Fantasy because they're not talking about it the exact way you want it. So there's no discussion. We used to have regulars here who would dig into the lore. You didn't like it and told them it was spam. people tried to discuss gameplay. you didn't like it and said it was nitpicking. Now someone is trying to read the creator's old interviews and you don't like it. You don't like anything about Final Fantasy. i don't even know why you're here. Sometimes I think you've never played any of these games and just collect fanart to spam on here.
>>543180851But enough about yourself.
>>543180851Spammy is some redditard who thinks he 'owns' this general. It is very sad.
>>543180953>>543180851MMMMMMMMMMMMMMI just notice...
Just got to chapter 11 in FF13, the scaling curve is insane in this game, I'm getting fucked so hard nowGuess it's grinding time
>>543181725>I'm getting fucked so hard nowYou know you love it!Now bite the pillow.
>>543181725I think I did most of the game and I don't remember where chapter 11 is. Is that Before Robopope second fight?I remember the eidolon fights being fucked up.
>>543182306It's when you step into the actual open world, lots of these ground monsters here are rough
>>543181339Why are you reposting your spam in other generals?
>>543181339based nOOticer
>>543182420I remember that. Yeah i don't fucking know why they made all the enemies there like 10 to 15 levels higher than you. IT's like the only open area in the game that isn't a straight hallway and even then i don't think I remember if you can return to it. I think i stopped somewhere around there.
On the topic of FFT still, what's a good party comp to have?
Duellum will be the Concord of Final Fantasy.
>>543184047That's XVI.
>>543184047The Nomurafag didn't like this onethey/them lashed out immediately
>>543183336I'm running Ramza, Reis, Beowulf, Cid, Cloud
>>543184193lumao
>>543180851This sounds a lot like it's describing the Lightning avatarfag.
>>543184948lmao so true!
>>543181725The difficulty curve is indeed insane. The health and damage numbers start to get very, very high on Gran Pulse. It's all there for a reason, time to seriously power up. Welcome to the real game>>543184948Utterly and truly obsessed.
>>543186230>obsessedYes you are resident shitposter
>>543180851>>542791649
>>543184819He meant classes, not unique characters.And also Agrias saved my ass a few times.
>>543078547>>543078660>>543079780>>543103339I notice that the previous thread died and was archived early after this happened. Pretty blatant console war antics >>543186614>>543186851>>543187090Yes...even after not posting here for however many days, shadow boxers arrive immediately to seethepost (three times in a row) the moment that I return. This place is truly done for, I don't think Lightning will be saving any of you.
>>543188668Kill yourself.
>>543188668Love yourself, XIII-CHAD.
>>543187432It was a tossup for me between Cid and Agrias but she's so outclassed by him it's not even funny.In the end, I benched my waifu.
>>543180930For some reason, some very vocal people here are convinced that it's impossible to discuss Final Fantasy video games. But they are never posting any video games. Curious>>543188767Why?>>543188839Done. Love yourself, explorer.
>>543184948The post that angered the cultist so hard, he had to answer it several times, coming back miraclously from a break JUST IN TIME to comment on it.Mmmmmmmm... What a fuunnny coincidennnnce....I'm noticing...
>>543188668Didn't read.
>>543188946Makes sense, I haven't unlocked Cid yet, but Agrias? Girl's cake saved my bacon a few times.I'm curious how strong the thunder god is.>>543188993Stop noticing, you'll anger the cult again.>>543189019Not missing much, it's just "w-why are you telling me to fuck o-off, I wasn't even here, I was on holiday! Really!!"
>>543188993
I'm not even here right now
>>543188668I read everything. Peak as always, XIII-GOD.
>>543188957>For some reason, some very vocal people here are convinced that it's impossible to discuss Final Fantasy video games. But they are never posting any video games. CuriousWe talked about Final Fantasy multiple times while you were "not here"
>>543189457The fatherless is slow and legally blind, please be of understanding toward his retarded handicapped ass.
>>543189296Thread immediately comes to life so FAST when Lightning appears. How can this be so consistently true?>>543189457So was I here or was I not here? Try to answer without sounding schizophrenic
>>543189457You angered the fatherless, he's crying right now fr fr.
>>543189787Seems so. He's just gonna be talking about himself for a few hours. As usual.
>>543189841What a sad loser. No wonder everyone hate him and the only people not spitting at him on sight are its own sockpuppets, he has no redeeming quality and is too retarded to even cause pity.
Jimbo, you around?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcdsYJtz7II&tcheck this new vid, i bet it will make you REALLY happy
I'm on my second playthrough of Tictacs Ivalice.Why is this game so satisfying?
>>543190110>Lightning avatarfag is "not here">immediately starts namefagging his bogeyman
>>543190171I'm more of a Tactic Ogre fan. There's just something so satisfying with archers using volley fire to shoot over terrain and your own men.FFT doesn't have volley fire, does it?Also Ogre has Nybeth Obdilord, the best asshole in the franchise.
>>543190171Because it's an evolution of the quintessential FFV's Job system. As such, Final Fantasy Tactics became the quintessential tactical game.
Cloud is Zack's Nobody.
>>543190598Nomura is a hack.
>>543180054I think knights get to attack whoever comes too close? If you get them a polearm, they can pretty much block anyone from coming near.
>>543190171>>543190404Say thank you.
I'm kind of into TTRPGs, so I gotta ask.FFXIV has a TTRPGs, are you people aware of a TTRPG based on FFT? It sounds like a perfect fit, after all.Actually I'm surprised there's no versus mode where I can write my own campaign and make my own maps.
>>543190171I prefer Ogre Battle and Unicorn Overlord.
>>543192094Unicorn Overload has really sexy elves.
>>543192169Yes.
>>543192323Chocolate elf... I'm hungry now.
how come steal heart only works against characters of the opposite sexis this a bug
>>543193362>why aren't same-sex seductions a thing in a setting where religion is extremely important and yet oppressive and the ultimate big boss of the church isn't a pope but a High ConfessorAre you retarded?
>>543193362>vtumor imageFuck off retard
>>543191980It'd be so good for a TTRPG. Surprised SE never bothered.They could sell so many little unit figures and even the arenas.I've seen some fanmade ones but that's it.
>>543192094Off-topic, not Final Fantasy.
>>543195412But enough about XVI
>>543195412Ogre Battle is Matsuno, shitposter.
>>543193362I for one, am grateful that I could plan out who I needed to equip immunity to charm on based on their sex. I gave Agrias immunity to KO and Stop instead for example during that demon chick fight.
She will save Final Fantasy, whether you like it or not
>>543197291That's not a pic of my waifu Agrias though
>>543195251Wait, there's none? That's surprising, FFT works so well and would be so easy to turn into a TTRPG, compared to FFXIV.And I like FFXIV and I like playing it, but FFT seems just perfect for a TTRPG setting.Or should be convert Warhammer? I genuinely really like the Warhammer RPG too and it'd be interesting to port in Ivalice.>>543189787>>543189841>>543189979Based CHADs.
>>543196658>>now watch me talk about him endlessly, like whether or not he's here right now, what his real life first name is, who his parents are, age, location, etckek
>>543197965SE really slept on the rise in popularity of TTRPGs amongst the normies.Them only just now putting out an XIV one is pretty sad.
>>543199071I want my TTRPG rulebook with way too many details on who discovered time magic, the different knighthood orders, the epic historical achievements of some orators, and of course the different ranks for every classes.At least the XIV one is nice, through it's so insanely simple, reading the rules make it appear almost too easy to play: enemy attacks follow a rotation, and it follows the one-tank-one-healer-two-damage-dealers formula so the game looks like it's less about improvising than following the plan.I just ordered the full rulebook instead of just the starter edition, I hope there's more. Compared Warhammer and FFXIV is like comparing day and night.
>>543199071Its funny that this happened considering FF1 was majorly based off of DnD.
>>543199797Grid based, turn based, tactics based, FF1-6 based, DnD based reboot game with an airship, Amano style character designs and a colorful cel shaded artstyleFUND IT
>>543200494>DnD based reboot game with an airshipI actually really fucking hate DnD.
>>543200494Would be too based and profitable.Impossible for SE, I'm afraid.
>>543160641Kek
>>543200761Still better than XVI.
>>543200976Rentfree.
>>543188668>I wasn't even here
>>543200976Not a high bar
>>543189549Nah it's just the Rebirthfag again.
>>543201041Seems that the 10/10 FFXVI has really mindbroken that fellow
>>543201041>>543159761
>>543159761>>543201594Kek
>>543201531Makes sense, success breeds jealousy.
why does every ff7 theorist keep getting stuck on this "multiple worlds" shit?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Ji_2c34EY
>>543201956https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning
>>543200761>I actually really fucking hateRelax son, there wouldn't be any bear sex. It's just the base roleplaying game design philosophy. Every RPG has it.>>543200976If XVI had been a grid based, or turn based, or tactics based, or DnD based game with an airship and mature dark fantasy tone that some of us imagined it could have been....that may have rivaled Baldur's Gate or Elden Ring, and we wouldn't be in this mess.>>543201123Can you find some of my posts from the time period in question>>543201428Everyone that posts Yuffie is the singular "Rebirthfag" eh?Will this namefag phenomena ever be explained rationally?>>543201531XVI stinks.
>>543202226none of these kids are boomers so doubt its that
>>543202249Be silent, fatherless.
>>543191329He needs to come back for XVII. He's been doing nothing since XII.We absolutely need a new tactical FF, as much as it pains me to agree with XIII-kun.
>>543202249>XVI stinks.Fraid so
>>543202616You angered it, it has to answer itself again.
I grinded too much in Tactics and now even Tactician difficulty is too easy. It's over.
can't wait for this shitty general to die from inactivity again
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-director-says-all-that-timewasting-filler-was-good-actually/
>>543205561thats not what hes saying
>>543205561Hamaguchi is stunning and brave for saying this about Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. I hope this means that there will be even more sidequests that provide additional lore in Part 3. That's the real meat of the game, after all.
>>543205561lmao
>>543204915Die from inactivity? There's anti 7 bait to post
>>543206559Fuck is that.
>>543207420That is peak Final Fantasy VII gameplay, sir.
>>543207509No wonder I see shills focusing on the girls but nobody talks about the actual gameplay.
>>543207420A comedic side quest mini game in Rebirth where you lead some chickens home (to be killed and cooked and fed to the party)It increases your bond with Red XIII
>>543207760More bonds? Urgh, is this FFVII or Persona 4?
>>543207680It does make you wonder what else could have possibly kept conversation about Final Fantasy VII alive for 25 years if not for the retards arguing Tifa vs Aerith every day of their lives since its release.
>>543207981Yes. I was very unpleasantly surprised when I started posting on /ffg/ and saw that people were STILL going at it.
>>543207680never ask a 7R fan (nor a gacha fan) about the gameplay
>>543208159I'd rather never ask a gacha fan anything. At all.
>>543207868To be fair to Persona, when you go into Persona you know what you're gonna get. You know it's oldschool Newgrounds flash game style "build your stats every day and fight shit at night" while increasing the bonds with the social links and going through the monster of the week. When you go into Final Fantasy and you get some "open world" checklist chore simulator, you have to pause and double check to make sure you're actually playing a Final Fantasy game and not an MMO or a gacha.
>>543208303This webm reminds me the dark hours of playing the island mode in FFXIV.Or trying Spyro 2.
>>543207868The original also had a relationship mechanicI enjoyed most the character focused side quests. The chicken one was funny>>543207509>>543207680>>543208159If you want peak FFVIIR gameplay then you fight Gilgamesh. If you've played the game then you already know how good the combat ishttps://youtu.be/YcjAo6PWJBc
>>543208678>The original also had a relationship mechanicIt was restricted to the Gold Saucer event and was just for fun. I didn't even knew there relation mechanisms until recently, I thought it was always Tifa.
>>543208678>The original also had a relationship mechanicWell, there you have it folks. Criticism invalidated.
>>543205561>Final Fantasy 7 Remake took the first eight or so hours of Final Fantasy 7 and expanded them into a 30-hour prestige RPG that, while it contained some quite skippable sidequests, added to the story in ways that made it even more impactful. The additions deepened character relationships and made you feel more attached to the setting. By contrast, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth took the original's second act and bloated it into 50+ hours of open world RPG filler.>It wasn't just the optional tower-climbing and chocobo-stealthing stuff that made Rebirth feel stretched. Even if you stuck to the critical-path story you'd have to slog through Cait Sith throwing boxes around, an overlong final dungeon, and a plot you had to move through at a crawl—sometimes literally.Many people are now saying this. >Screenrant recently spoke to Naoki Hamaguchi, director of the Final Fantasy 7 Remake trilogy, and brought up some of these complaints. "Regarding time management in certain sections," he replied, "especially in FF7 Rebirth, I honestly don't believe that they were longer than necessary. I feel like nowadays, players just have too much to do and too much to play; so they often feel the urge that something has to be concluded quickly."KEK>Still, Hamaguchi is aware of the criticism and taking it into account. "As we work on the conclusion to the trilogy, we are striking a balance on how story arcs are told and spread out so as to ensure that the game feels a bit more concise," he said. We can only hope that Final Fantasy 7 Revengeance or whatever it ends up being called doesn't expect us to defeat Sephiroth by throwing boxes at him for 45 minutes.Doubtful. If there's going to be an airship in Part 3, you bet your ass there's going to be even more bloatwork and filler.
Why are VIIRgins trying to force a rivalry with FFXVI? I swear, these schizo keep alternating between "VIIR isn't that much of a failure, XVI did worse!!!!" and "XVI isn't a real final fantasy so it doesn't count"/
>>543208795>I thought it was always Tifa.Aerith bros....But to be serious, a relationship mechanic is still just for fun. That hasn't changed. But it goes deeper now by extending and integrating that mechanic into the combat system via Synergy abilities and such. It's really, really good. It's not bad. It's not Persona. It's Final Fantasy, and it's great.>>543208839Not what I stated. Someone can say they don't like the mechanic all they want to. I simply said the original also had a relationship mechanic. If the idea of 'remake' is to expand and reimagine the originals ideas, then the relationship mechanic would obviously be included. Personally, I really loved it.
>>543209140VIIRgins hate Yoshida. Maybe not all VIIRgins, but the ones here do. I honestly think it's something that began with Barry, but I don't know for sure.
>>543209264>Not what I statedlol
>>543209264>That hasn't changedWait so... why even bother grinding relations in VIIR if it doesn't get you any item or limit break or whatever else?>>543209269Sadly you don't need all fans to be obnoxious. You only need a few loud ones to ruin the fun for everyone.
>>543208678>decent gameplay is locked behind 100s of hours of timewasting fillerLmao no thanks
>>543209140>he believes that only his boogeymen hate XVIKek
>>543209540This coming from an XVI stan that'll play 100 hours of XVI just to unlock Ultimaniac
>>543209140You struck a nerve.
>>543209457>"it goes deeper now by extending and integrating that mechanic into the combat system via Synergy abilities and such">why bother grinding relationsIt's for fun. Like the original. The various rewards that you get from sidequests are all varied. But the points given to the specific characters bond are just for fun.https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Affection_mechanics_(VII_Rebirth)
>>543210289>the points given to the specific characters bond are just for funHuh. Okay....so why are VIIRgins still autistic about who the best girl is? Also it's Tifa.
>New dialog that wasn't in the original.>Every dialog about Agrias being raised as a man is also new.>Portraying Gaffgarion as an old out of touch(white) man and Agrias a strong woman raised as a manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5nRylkDYe4>FFT is woke nowWhat the fuck happened?
>>543210289>It's for fun. Like the original.Criticism invalidated once again. Thank you for continuing to keep this thread free from wronthink. If they don't like the bonds, they don't have to do it. If they still don't like it, well, the original hand bonds too, and it's just for fun. I don't know what their problem is. More is always better, and if they don't want more, they don't have to do it.
>>543210369Aren't you tired of trying to stir shit up? I saw the same exact post three threads back, and you already got BTFO'd then. Do you have a learning disability? Are you retarded?
>>543210369>>FFT is woke now>now>he doesn't know
>>543210369wasn't the new FFT director some landwhale feminist or something? pretty sure she was
>>543209140Nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody, wants more "XVI" in their Final FantasyIf they do, what they really want is the "high fantasy", "hack and slash" and "hype moments"They do not want another game with no RPG, no party, no equipment, no weapons, and no exploration.>>543210368That's Yuffie. Play Rebirth already, it would be good for your soul>>543210505Once again, criticizing the relationship mechanic is valid. Any criticism can be valid from the right perspective. But the existence of the mechanic in the original game necessitates its existence in the Remake. Don't you agree? Did you like the mechanics yourself? I really liked flirting with Yuffie and turning down Aerith. As someone who loves FFVII and FFX and grew up on Bioware games, dating mechanics in RPGs are always a fun "extra".
>>543210835Kill yourself, fatherless.
>>543210835Love yourself, king.
>>543210894I love posts like this because you just know the fatherless is butthurt by these since it always answer itself right away.
>>543210835>Once again, criticizing the relationship mechanic is valid. Any criticism can be valid from the right perspective.As long as the "right perspective" is having the objectively wrong opinion, I agree with you. >Don't you agree? Did you like the mechanics yourself? I want Final Fantasy to turn into a sort of mild dating RPG kind of like Persona, so I loved it. Hopefully we get even more dating mechanics in the future.
>>543210737Yeah, it's the same SJW nutjob who literally said male fanservice is "empowering" but female fanservice is "sexist."She was always in irrelevant dev roles, then somehow gets handed the lead role on XVI and tanks it with pure incompetence.
>>543211676>who literally said male fanservice is "empowering" but female fanservice is "sexist."Souce? Genuinely curious. >tanks it with pure incompetence.Well, let's not forget that Rebirth did worse numbers and she wasn't on that game.
>>543212175Source? H-Huh......yes, he's asking for a source, mister President, what do I do?
>>543210369It's not that big of a deal. Matsuno is pretty woke nowadays so it could have been much worse. Has nothing to do with his co-director.>>543212175Based and trueInconvenient facts being spouted
>>543212175I guess there wasn't a source after all.
>>543213102>everything I don't like is wokeOk.
>>543215210Someone complaining about “woke” making shit up?Well now I’ve heard it all.
>>543217893I just wanted to know where she:>"literally said male fanservice is "empowering" but female fanservice is "sexist." "but sometimes a simple question is all it takes.
>>543209140because xvi is the only piece of shit that is comparable to flopbirth
>>543210737Stop answering your own posts.
>>543210369Glad this garbage flopped
>hear for decades that Tactics is a masterpiece>don't do strategy games but I'll at least check out the story in baby mode>pirate it on Switch, play it>backstory is tucked away in an exposition dump in the menu>script is flowery as fuck, almost Shakespearean>every new chapter is introducing some new Tolkien-wannabe thing to keep track of in the loreHoly fucking shitsucking ballfuck, this is fucking boring. I might as well be reading a thick novel from the 1800s. This is supposed to be a masterpiece? Yes, I am American. No, I don't have the attention span for excess loredumps. No, I don't fucking care. Any mainline FF game is more engaging and well-paced than this.
>>543221068That is the incorrect opinion for the /ffg/. Expect someone very angry and very persistent to tell you how wrong you are for the next several hours. That is, of course, unless he never shows up for some reason...
>>543221238Answering your own post like this won't make you immune to criticism.
Wtf. It's been months since I thought about Final Fantasy and in all this time 13 is STILL shit...Amazing.
>>543221068same, the game's super pretentious and badly writtenlike why doesn’t Ramza kill Delita at the enddude literally gets away with everythingbut I don’t think /ffg/ is ready for that conversation
>>543221367I don't answer my own posts. I simply notice and then describe the rules of the allowable opinions on the /ffg/. Every time anyone says anything negative about any one of Matsuno's works, someone always shows up to defend it for hours. This has most recently even gone so far as to label someone who likes most of Matsuno's work a "Matsuno hater" because he didn't like all of Matsuno's work. So you best believe that person is going to show up and be very angry for several hours. Unless... he doesn't show up. For some reason.
>>543221556Lying won't make you immune to criticism either.
>>543221623Well, I'm not lying, and I'm not even being criticized, so that's fine with me and I even agree with that statement.
>>543173386>but most people like the way dialogue is presented in RemakeThe guy is asking an accessibility question, not insulting the game you overdefensive loser.
>>543222487Perhaps you should answer his question in a way you believe to be satisfactory then.
>>543222804The answer is no, there isn't, but maybe a mod will let you do it.You don't need to clarify that BTW most people LOVE the dialogue presentation in Remake!!! as if that's something people even talk about.I remember when Remake first came out everyone was saying how much they loved the, uh... text on the screen! Wow, Nomura-san really is the master, just look at that dialogue on the screen.
>>543223058>The answer is no, there isn't, but maybe a mod will let you do it.This seems like the same answer that was given, yet you still seem upset for some reason.
>>543223319Yeah yeah the guy had trouble seeing the text but it must be made clear that the text in the game is 10/10 best dialogue text in a game ever, in fact people want the same dialogue text in every FF now it's so good, just in case anyone starts getting ideas that the text isn't good or considers criticizing it.
>>543223409You still seem upset despite providing the same answer as the one you were angry about.
>>543223592You seem dead set on implying that I have any issue with the answer "no, but maybe mods will help" while ignoring everything else I'm saying.Stay overdefensive you loser. Nobody insulted the text but it's still so important to make clear the text is super awesome and great and the best and there's nothing wrong with it.I'm not saying anything you disagree with either, right? Just two guys agreeing.
>>543221850Lying to yourself won't force reality to accept your schizo delusion.
>>543223762>>543223954You replied to a post 10 hours later so that you could crash out about how much you agree with it.
>>543224036/ffg/ is so dead a 10 hour old post is like a 15 minute old post on an actually active board.No wonder nobody wants to come here if asking a basic accessibility question is seen as an attack on Remake from one of those awful haters.
>>543224198You don't know what we've been through. You can't blame us for being jumpy.
>>543224198I think you are pretty massively and very performatively overreacting, no doubt so that you can reference this incident later as if you are the opposing party. I'm happy that you are so performatively crashing out about something that you agreed with and provided the exact same answer for, though.
>>543224763Let's all just calm down. VIIR is safe, everyone agrees it has the best dialogue text in the world. That blind fucker will watch his tone next time he wants to complain.
>>543224873I wonder how long you're going to angrily agree with something that you provided the exact same answer for ("no, but maybe there is a mod"), and I wonder how long it's going to take you to reference your own crash out as if you weren't the one who pretended to have it. I suspect we will find out in the next few days.
>>543225224You'd be amazed how often people get angry at opinions they agree with around here
>>543225310It's just really weird to get upset about a 10 hour old post while then going on to provide the exact same answer and then continuing to melt about it. This seems like an underhanded and nefarious event, for what purpose I do not know.
>>543225624And when you're still talking about this 10 hours from now, the circle will be complete.
>>543224873Quit your false-flagging already, lightningcuck. XIII is still shit.
>>543226107That wont happen, but I do suspect that you will reference your own crash out you just had while pretending to be someone else, and that *that* might happen 10 hours from now. >>543226161Yeah, that was pretty obvious. He's setting himself up for a shitpost. Usually when he complains about something, the thing he's complaining about didn't actually happen and doesn't actually exist. He must manifest it himself.
Are we making fun of anons who get mad at the sight of posts they agree with? Because boy do I have some stories.
>>543227423Someone did just angrily reply to a 10 hour old post and then proceed to become angry about it while repeatedly agreeing with it and also providing the exact same answer to the question that was asked. I would like to hear a story.
>>543227558For someone who is pre-emptively preparing for someone else to reference this event as some kind of gotcha 10 hours from now you certainly do seem to be having a hard time moving on from this incident yourself. It happened over an hour ago. How long do you plan to post about it?
>>543227746I guess it now angers you to even mention the 10 hour old post you angrily agreed with for an hour. I was just asking for stories of times where someone on /ffg/ has been upset about things they agree with.
One thing is clear: the accusation that FFVIIR fans are overdefensive has been proven false.
>>543228112lol
>>543228112kek
>>543227558>did justanon that was over an hour ago
>>543228112First genuine laugh /ffg/ has given me in weeks
I heard White mage/Dragoon with Holy spear is a fun roleplay build in FFT. How weak will a female generic WHM/DRG be in terms of Jump/Spear damage? Is it viable in the postgame dungeon?
>>543189712>Thread immediately comes to life so FAST when Lightning appears. How can this be so consistently true?Lightning, like real mother, gives new life to everything she touches.
>>543232601Where are all these chad quotes coming from? A chad convention?
>>543233118Final-Fantasy-super-duper-turbo-gigabased-big-bingus-explorers-chads-and-connoisseurs convention, yes. These people are among us, and when the Muse calls, they answer the call.
>>543228112Kek
Eclaire...
My wife Eiko is cute!
>>543248261The best
>>543239837That’s a man.
>>543239837Sexo
>>543202249Last thread. And I never said anything about Yuffie, take your meds.
>>543208678>only gets good at the end
>>543263176It's weird because he thinks everyone (except him) who posts Yuffie is the same one (1) shitposter.
>>543209140Insecurity.
>>543263503>saging while talking to himselflmao
>>543209680>deflection to some unrelated game? ? ?
>>543264838>talking to himselfNope! But thank you for immediately proving what I said to be true.
When will we get more high fantasy kino FF?What's with duellum decim being modernslop?
>>543264838Please understand that the sissy, like Yoshita, is not very intelligent.
>>543264939>>543264610You made him (singular) so upset that he thinks I'm you now.
>the fatherless is back at it>againNow watches at it claims it wasn't even here.
Thank god I figured out how to use the filter list on my phone. Now i will never have to see the low quality spam of the lighcuck or any other shitposter infesting /ffg/
>>543266643Yup. He's talking to himself now... about himself. While pretending to not be here. What a sad, strange little man.
>>543267574See >>543266015
>>543266643You angered the fatherless, it's crying. Again.Seriously, that guy has a self-humiliation fetish.
>>543267878I honestly think that it might be retarded. Probably his stamp tramp of a mother who beat him so harshly he turned retarded.
XIII-chad runs this place, it seems. He's too powerful.
>>543268525It's talking about itself AGAIN.
>>543269289We're all XIII-kun. I've been called XV-kun a few times too
>>543269537Yup, it is. What a loser.
>disapointed with spellblade since picking a focused melee or caster class seemed better>upgrade all classes with bahamut>spellblade upgrades to runic warrior that can absorb all types of magic and boost his stats at the same timeFUCK man, looks like it finally paid off having this retard on my party
>>543265974XVI was so generic and boring that it killed the medieval setting forever.
NateTheGaped says FF9 remake is cancelled.
>>543278508>even more namefaggotry
>>543278561in my days, we called that a username.
The 10/10 FFXVI was so incredible that it reignited the desire of millions for more high fantasy kino, blazing a new path forward for Final Fantasy and setting the stage for XVII's return to Ivalice
bump
>>543287830>bumping a dead and shitty general You're part of the problem
>>543287830This is so sad to see>before FF7 remake releases>"oh i hope they keep all the goofy stuff! i hope they dont remove the minigames and keep the adventure going instead of going serious kingdom hearts cringe!">before ff7 rebirth releases>Hamaguchi and Kitase give interviews describing that they know FF7 is full of minigames and goofy stuff so they are keeping it>everyone is happy >Ff7 rebirth releases>"not serious enough! i dont care about minigames! the adventure suck!"FF fans, not even once.
>>543288746Rebirth is 7/10ish - too many mini games and reddit campiness, I'm afraid.There's a reason it couldn't even sell 2M copies
>>543287830Many people are now saying that they liked Remake and XVI more than Rebirth. Opinion of Rebirth has soured over time. Likely due to how much unnecessary bloat there is in it. It can feel like an MMO at times, and the marvel quips aren't fitting for a Final Fantasy game.
>>543288746it's the fans fault, 100%. SE did everything right and the fans failed them.
>>543289385Both Remake and Rebirth are perfect, with Rebirth being a little bit more perfect than Remake. There is nothing they should have done differently. Rebirth's lacking sales are the result of bad press by so-called gaming journalists and YouTube armchair critics who don't know anything about video games.
>>543289326Apparently there aren't enough minigames in Rebirth yet. You can expect Part 3 to remedy this, as it will be superior in every single way to both Remake and Rebirth. You will be able to return to Gold Saucer to experience a sort of WarioWare type minigame gauntlet, which if faithful to the original while also being better and expanding on the lore of the world.
Some people think there are too few minigames in Rebirth while others think there are too many. Truly, Final Fantasy fans will never be happy.
>>543287830>>543289326see>>542889657
>>543287830>>543289114>>543289326Based and true
This review seems to encapsulate the reasoning behind Rebirth's declining score. >Note: he had 111 hours at the time of review, and it seems it took him another 58 hours to finish the game. How can fans be so ungrateful? That is a fantastic value proposition. That's about 2.5 hours of game for every $1 spent. What more could you possibly want?
New reviews are coming in as we speak.
Wake up babe. New Barry brigade just dropped.
It seems that Rebirth is a disappointing game not only for veterans who played OG VII as a kid, but also for zoomers who never played the original.
Look, you can't trust journo opinions, or youtubers, or FF fans who played the game. It's that simple.
>>543287830>>543289326Oof.
Someone didn't enjoy the immersive experience of collecting scooters and the additional world building lore that it provides. Can you believe that?
>>543288746FF fans are happy with faithful and quintessential FF games thougheverbeit
>>543294350>FFI PR = 94>FFII PR = 80>FFIII PR = 93>FFIV PR = 93>FFV PR = 89>FFVI PR = 93Wow, all of the Pixel Remasters have good scores. I'm starting to think that the games that /ffg/ hates the most are the games that everyone else actually likes. It's probably also that the games /ffg/ loves the most are the ones everyone else dislikes the most.
>>543294790Personally, i just use whatever source that fits my narrative.
>>543294790Why is V's lower than the rest?I know why II is lower cause its still II, but why 5?
>>543295189Scanning the negative reviews, some of them are upset that there are fewer pixels than in the GBA version, some dislike the stuttering and screen tearing, one complaining about the font that he could have fixed day 1 and that is now fixed regardless, one of the said he would change his review from negative to positive when the PC version got the Switch QoL toggles but he didn't actually do that. One said he just didn't like FFV, one said he had no nostalgia for it (it didn't release in America originally), one said it was the worst FF game.
>>543295189>>543295657Reading more of the negative reviews, there are people who just didn't like FFV. You could chalk this up to a lack of nostalgia. FFII only released later in America with the Dawn of Souls, but it's a bit of a black sheep (even though it has the same score as Rebirth and XVI). FFV didn't release in American until later either. That doesn't explain why FFIII has "the same" score as all the other entries though, since it didn't come out in America until much later either. Anecdotally, I played FFIII only for the first time with the PRs, and I liked it more than FFV.
>>543294790its cool that after 2 or 3 pc releases square actually managed to release pc ports of the nes-snes final fantasy games that are actually decent and dont have trash graphics.Also /ffg/ dislikes the nes-snes ff games? are all posters zoomers here?
>>543296094>Also /ffg/ dislikes the nes-snes ff games? are all posters zoomers here?I think we like the NES-SNES games, but we specifically HATE the "Shitxel Shitmasters"
>>543292798>minigame and waiting simulatorIt is so pathetic to read this crap like it has any meaning
I find that once you start examining criticisms of FF games, they are almost never opinions I personally agree with, making them moot. Everyone needs to keep that in mind when looking at an FF games overall rating.
>>543298312actually fucking based
>>543298312I don't get itso are getting turn-based games because they will appeal to fans who want games like E33?
>>543298312This is the kind of hopeful statement from the dev I personally identify with that I like to read. Whichever one I want - turn-based or action - that's the game that Hamaguchi is personally going to hand deliver to me next.
>>543292923This but unironically.
>>543300909SE isn’t going to chase a market trend for its biggest headliner and will instead leave the decision of gameplay to the developers and directors involved.
I was told that new dissidia is going to have a crossover with like a dragon. What?
>>543304028>SE isn’t going to chase a market trend for its biggest headlinerThat’s what they did for XVI. Too bad Game of Thrones was already dead by the time it came out.
>>543304028>SE isn’t going to chase a market trend for its biggest headlinerFor better of for worse, this is incorrect. Remake is an action game instead of turn-based. XVI is action instead of turn-based. Even if SE were to make XVII turn-based, it would be chasing the market trend of E33.
XIII keeps winning bigly
>>543294350Now this is a based and quintessential post
>>543311586Remaster status?
>>543311586Disgusting>>543312995Never ever
I'm fighting Elidibus in Midlight's Deep and I don't know what I'm going to do with my life once it's over. Tactics Advance seems kind of gay so maybe I'll replay XII next.
Started LaL and it's stupid easy so far. Am I doing something wrong?
>>543311586juggling enemies in the air in ff13 was kino, i unironically like ff13
OG:Timed button pressSquatsTimed jump climbing up to the plateG-BikeBlend in at the paradeWelcoming Rufus danceCPRDolphin JumpChocobo racingLovelessSnowboardingFind the hut before passing out from the coldJog on the spot to not get hypothermiaWriggle free from the chair to get the key and escape a gas chamber.A MOTHER TRUCKIN' SLAP FIGHTFort Condor (I just lose on purpose, so I fight the general as an encounter and still win)Train brakesSubmarineLock Code in Space!Remake/Rebirth:Timed button pressHoney Bee Inn dance sequenceG-BikeCatch chocobosDolphin speed trialJunon parade sequenceYuffie aiming at RufusYour choice of minigames in Costa Del Sol to get the beach outfits. You don't have to do all of them.MinecartVirtual fist fight vs DioMaybe some other Gold Saucer stuff in Chapter 8? Cannot remember if you can skip them or not.Chocobo racingBuggy chaseBox throwingLovelessThat's all the stuff you have to do TMK. Nothing reveals fake FF7 fans like the minigame moaning.
>>543313351
>>543313351>>543316371I prefer the real Elidibus.
>>543316661Sorry, whomst that? From FFT, I can tell, but who is he?And is that moustache real? He looks like Delita wearing a cheap disguise.
>>543311586I mean it’s not exactly a secret that XIII’s combat was the preliminary attempt at an eventual remake.
This general is so horrible I haven't been here in 5 days
>>543317718There's worse. I followed the fatherless to /sthg/. They literally post furry porn there.
>>543317849why are you stalking a furry instead of doing anything else
>>543316371>>543316754>FFXIV kiddies haven't even played the other gamesYikes
>>543318323Funny how defensive you get...
>>543318323Because I've lost control of my life.Actually playing and discussing Final Fantasy no longer sparks joy.
>>543318581Why do you answer yourself?
>>543318654Funny how defensive you get...
>>543318506>>543318654You didn’t answer the question
>>543318506You angered the fatherless, he samefagged like crazy.
>>543317849I was going to ask you for proof, but they way he responded is proof enough. No wonder. He's a Sonic autist. In other news, I had no idea that Sonic even had shipping, but it looks like that thread is just a couple retards doing shipping wars. Not surprising that he'd be there.
>>543319212>I had no idea that Sonic even had shippingI envy you. I went there to look for recommendations a while ago (broke hand and needed a platform game to play with gamepad and I finished Hat in Time), I regret it. The only good rec I got was for a fangame, everything else is shipping wars and retarded argument about two brands of comics.
>>543319212To be fair, Sonic is high fantasy kino.
>>543319360>and retarded argument about two brands of comicsThat sounds somehow even stupider than shipping wars.
>>543319479looks more final fantasy than XVI
Emma’s ass from Pokémon Legends Z-A went viral in all the ways XVI tried and failed to go viral.
>>543317849This post *really* upset him. Crazy.
>>543287830NOOOOO
>>543319581It kinda is. I mean, if I got it right, there's a long, LONG serie of comics, called Archie's. Somehow they got cancelled after 20 years, and "IDW" had to take after them, but without all the lore Archie made up. So they're fighting about which one is less "ooc".>>543320275Yeah, it's pissed now.
OP please add Sonic to the filter list. Thanks
Wow, XIII is GARBAGE.
>>543323576Do it yourself you lazy fatherless bastard.
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>>543325061
PeakSoken could neverkttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14lZ2g_oCxI
>>543325061She’s so much better now that she’s left XIV behind and gone back to WoW.
>>543324203>post criticizes XIII>543325374>543325564>immediately, two posts criticizes xiv out of the blueMmmmmmmmmmmmm...I'm noticing.....
>>543325374Soken btfo
>>543324203Many consider it the end of the silver age of Final Fantasy and the start of the LGBTQ+ era.
>>543326456There's a consensus that X was the last good one until XIV, though.
>>543326723This consensus is held be people who didn't play X-2 and are unaware that it is the last game Squaresoft released. Also, XII is pretty good. I've found that I enjoy it more now that I did when it came out.
>>543325061:Ocute
>>543325564Totally get it, FFXIV is dogshit incarnate.
>>543327365x-2 is only saved by its combat. every other aspects is complete shitxi was square's last masterpiecexii is A tier easily and was the last great FF
>>543327365>it doesn't count because i disagree with itok
>>543328054All aspects of X-2 are incredible. The only lacking pieces are the OST and the story, but I don't even think the story is that lacking, it's just atypical, and the OST grows on you, it's just not as robust as other titles. >xi was square's last masterpieceI hesitate to call XI a masterpiece. I hesitate to call any Final Fantasy game a masterpiece when Squaresoft also has Chrono Trigger, which is a true masterpiece.
I won't take 11 slander.
is there really no way to play ffx-2 last mission undubbed on original hardware? what content am i missing out on by playing vanilla x-2 undubbed?
>>543328787>All aspects of X-2 are incredibleits story is absolute cancer and makes zero narrative sense that locks the true ending behind a series of convoluted steps that even with guides and walkthroughs there is still a chance of not completing. x-2 is, objectively, a failure of a gameif xiii-2 didn't exist it would be the worst direct sequel Square or Square Enix ever made>I hesitate to call XI a masterpiecethen you never played or have forgotten what mmos were like before wow ruined the genre forever.xi was the last and greatest true mmo.it is the real swan song of the old franchise that ix is commonly misattributed to being.>>543329383last mission is, and should forever be forgotten and ignored.
>>543329652what about the international changes, though? are those important or no
>>543329889not at allcreature creator breaks any semblance of game balance quickly ruining what is x-2s only high point. same with the new dress spheres. Last Mission itself is a slog of dungeon grinding that gives P3 FES a run for its money in terms of making the player feel absolutly miserable while playing only at least FES had relevancy to the plot and isn't "the girls are fighting" the tower climb
>>543329383>is there really no way to play ffx-2 last mission undubbed on original hardware?I have no idea. I used to get undubbed .isos back in the day, maybe one is floating around somewhere, but you can just undub Last Mission on the Remaster. >what content am i missing out on by playing vanilla x-2 undubbed?I didn't play X-2 on PS2 because eww girls, but I think you're missing Creature Creator, which is the best minigame in the entire FF franchise. You can even use the Creatures in the main game (the speedrun does this)>>543329652>its story is absolute cancer and makes zero narrative sense that locks the true ending [...]This is always a retarded complaint, especially in the age of the internet. Yes, it's a bullshit 100%, but 100%s are always bullshit. Trying to 100% a game is a surefire way to hate it. 100% should be reserved for games you love, and even then it's a risky gamble and you might end up hating it by the time you get 100%. >x-2 is, objectively, a failure of a gameIt has this perception, mostly by people who never played it, but it's actually the most underrated Final Fantasy game for this very reason. It's a fantastic Final Fantasy game, but everyone thinks it's bad because most people didn't even play it and just perpetuated shitposts amongst themselves. >then you never played or have forgotten what mmos were like before wow ruined the genre forever.Well, just as an example, PSO is an even older game than XI is, and yet it is significantly more "playable" and intuitive and friendly to the player. It's not exactly an MMO, but it's not really a single player game either. Honestly, XI would be so much better if its story and world existed inside of PSO's engine and general systems that the player uses to interact with the game world (including combat, UI, etc). But that's neither here nor there. I wouldn't call XI a masterpiece because I have actually played masterpieces. It is not one. It's just good despite its innumerable flaws.
>>543330503Still better than XIII.
The Last Mission has the most poignant and relatable story in all of Final Fantasy.
>>543330553>especially in the age of the internet.even in the age of the internet 100% completion is still missable when following guides through no fault of the player. That is a failure of game design and should never be praised or excused.>but it's actually the most underrated Final Fantasy game for this very reasonNo. III and V are what underrated Final Fantasy's look like. X-2 is a mess of bullshit.>It's not exactly an MMOThen its relevancy when discussing XI is nonexistent.
If your favorite ff game isn't 6, 7 or 10, you're objectively wrong. MAYBE an exception of 8 and 9.
>>543331369my favorite ff is ivmy favorite ff story is vimy favorite game is vii
>>543331069>That is a failure of game design and should never be praised or excused.It absolutely should not be praised. It's trash just like 100%ing any game is. Getting 100% is actually very easy if you play the game multiple times. If you're trying to 100% your first playthrough (something a retard might do) and you're following a guide, thus ruining the game for yourself, then yes, it would be very frustrating to get 97% and then need to start the game over and play it for 30 minutes to get the remaining 100%, for the reason that you can't "get" the true ending until you actually beat the game again... but you could just watch it on YouTube. It sounds like you were a retard who went into X-2, not with the goal of attempting to enjoy a video game, but rather with the sole intention of 100%ing it on your first attempt (if you even played it at all)>No. III and V are what underrated Final Fantasy's look like. X-2 is a mess of bullshit.X-2 is by far the most underrated Final Fantasy game in the series. Your continued insistence that you are correct only further proves this. V is nowhere near underrated, especially in the current times. It has a small cult following and some (now) tranny fundraiser that involves playing the game. III is more underrated, and I enjoyed it more than V, but it's not as good (or as hated/shitposted/glossed over) as X-2. If people were prevented from talking about video games they have not actually played, X-2 would practically never be talked about at all. >Then its relevancy when discussing XI is nonexistent.No, it is quite relevant. If you have played PSO, you'd understand. Every single thing about PSO's systems are superior to every single thing about XI's systems. Doing anything in PSO's combat is infinitely easier than in XI's, yet they are both effectively "the same". Interacting with PSO's game environment is so much easier than XI's, and yet it is an even older game. But the topic, imo, was of "masterpieces", not of MMOs
>>543331827>and yet it is an even older game.With a better character creator, I might add.
>>543331827>It sounds like you were a retardI first played x-2 on its release weekend wanting nothing except a sequel to x and getting a default bad ending after suffering through what is by far the worst written story of any FF to date. >X-2 is by far the most underrated Final Fantasy game in the series.No it is properly condemned as being a terrible waste of everyone's time. >No, it is quite relevant.A game that is a non-mmo by your own admission is not relevant in discussion to a game that is epitome of its genre.
>>543326723Impossible since XI and XII are the best games in the series.
>>543331369you sound like a normie that played one or two FFs
>>543332607>No it is properly condemned as being a terrible waste of everyone's time. See, opinions like yours are why it's the most underrated FF game. It is one of the better FF titles, at least as far as everything except story is concerned, and yet all anyone does is shit on it. Most people who shit on it haven't even played it. They saw the opening and noped the fuck out (like I did as a kid)>A game that is a non-mmo by your own admissionSo first off, once again, you called XI a masterpiece. I disagreed with it being a masterpiece, for reasons that I've stated. I provided the example of PSO, which is was originally Dreamcast game that you played online with other players. Every single thing about PSO's systems is superior to every single thing about XI's systems. I didn't play XI back on the PS2, but even if I had, I would have compared it to PSO, because I did play PSO on the Dreamcast. Look at that webm. Look at how fucking easy it is to change weapons and equipment in that game. You can cast spells from that same menu, he's just playing a Cast so he can't cast (heh) spells. You do see him select his traps from that menu though. All easy, all without creating a macro, all without downloading any addons. All without creating a cheaty GearSwap lua. PSO even has a rudimentary version of XIV's "cross hotbar" built into the game. You can set 3 face buttons to do stuff, and when you hold R, those 3 face buttons do something else which you can also set. The game has quests, a story, the whole nine yards. You can do all of this with other players. There is a chat system, and you can type on your keyboard as well as set (actually very robust) predefined messages and and "symbol chat" custom created shapes. It's just not actually an MMO. But again, I'm just saying XI can't be a masterpiece because it was already very far "behind" at the time of its release. It's a good game even to this day, despite its *innumerable* flaws, which I think is a feat in itself.
the X-2 fag is so insufferableThey/them is even worse than the XIII fagWait a minute...
>>543334278Nope. You've already tried to lump me in with that faggot before. I'm stating my opinion about Final Fantasy and video games. I'm not trying to troll anyone, I'm not trying to trigger my enemy, I'm not namefagging, I'm not talking endlessly about myself or how triggered my enemies are. I am trying to explain why X-2 is the most underrated Final Fantasy game and why XI is not a masterpiece, but is still good despite its innumerable flaws. I don't even think PSO is a masterpiece, but it has undoubtedly better withstood the test of time than XI has. Really, I with the XI Reboot/Remaster had come to fruition. That's the true crime here, is that a decent story and even some cool ideas like the job/subjob system, the job abilities, and the Skillchain and Magicburst systems are stuck inside of a game that's barely playable.
>>543334105Is that Phantasy Star Online?
>>543335342Yes, it's PSO.
>>543335723I don't remember this area.
>>543335772I believe that's a lobby. If you didn't play online, then it wouldn't look familiar.
>>543335723>>543335878Off-topic shitposter, PSO is trash.FFXI is superior in every way.
>>543335878Oh yeah. Literally never played it online.Come to think of it, I never did a quest either. Might be why I had a miserable time.
>>543334105>See, opinions like yoursnot an opinion. it is an objective fact>you called XI a masterpieceit is>I disagreedbecause your are retarded>I provided the example of PSO,a game you said was not relevant. hence you being retarded.>XI can't be a masterpiece because it was already very far "behind" at the time of its releasethis criteria has nothing to do with whether or not a game is a "masterpiece", again demonstrating that you are retarded
>>543325374I came to post this but you beat me to it
>>543336243Based and true
>>543336198>Come to think of it, I never did a quest either. Might be why I had a miserable time.It's called Phantasy Star *Online*, so yeah it's a lot better when played online. There's a decent amount of quests and stuff that are only available online. Like, there's a boss rush sort of level where you fight all the bosses of Episode 1 (there's also one for Episode 2) while briefly going through the zones. That's a pretty well liked one. The private servers up nowadays also have their own custom quests in addition to the ones that PSO actually had. Iirc, Monster Hunter was inspired by PSO, so it's that same sort of vibe when played online. >>543336243>not an opinion. it is an objective factOpinion and post completely disregarded. In fact, I didn't even bother reading the rest of it because if you ever were posting in good faith, you aren't anymore. Perhaps you could attempt to explain why you think XI is a "masterpiece" as I have explained why I think XI cannot be considered one? You could also try listing games which you also consider masterpieces, because it could be that your bar for what you consider a "masterpiece" is quite low and you have labeled several games as masterpieces when I'm more precious with that label. But nope, you're not doing any of that. All you're doing is saying "that doesn't count" for some reason and "[game] is shit", kinda like a shitposter might do. I'm not even saying XI is shit, which might have triggered you. I'm just saying it isn't a masterpiece.
Now this is what I call Final Fantasy
>>543336959Based
>>543336959Yikes
Cocoon was promised 3000 years ago, evict all Pulse residents
>>543330812Some day I'll look back on all the time I spent on /ffg/ and probably kill myself.
>>543330812Better than XVI for sure.
>>543336935>as I have explained why I think XI cannot be considered one?all you did was make a comparison to a game that has more in common with destiny 2 than it does xi. appealing to its age as some benchmark of technical achievement when the two are nothing alike.you are, definitionally, retarded.
>>543340963This
>>543336935>Monster Hunter was inspired by PSO, so it's that same sort of vibe when played online.Ha. So it's one of these games that are miserable when you're alone.I played a little bit of Monster Hunter World and I was shocked by how tedious and annoying the game is when you're alone, but how fun it is when you have friends.
I'm back from finishing my second Tactics Ivalice playthrough.What melties did I miss?
>>543341191Play it again. This time, monsters (and Ramza) only.
>>543340963It sounds like you simply didn't read my explanation. That's okay. I explained why I brought up PSO (an even older game) and why I make the comparison. You chose to either not read or to not understand. Moreover, you chose to ignore the point of my message, which has nothing to do with MMOs and is actually about why XI cannot be considered a masterpiece. My point still stands, even without the comparison to the older PSO, but I figured providing an actual example would strengthen my argument, when you have chosen to not read my posts and instead to hyper fixate on invalidating the examples I provided for why XI cannot be considered a masterpiece because "that doesn't count". None of what I said hinges on PSO, it just is an older game that "solves" many issues that plague XI, so I thought I'd mention it. That was apparently the wrong thing to do, but you were going to be angry no matter how this went.You were never posting in good faith. You're just a shitposter, like most people here. I should have known better.
>>543341315Sounds rough. I guess I'd still get to recruit my waifu Reis though.
>>543341101Yeah, pretty much. I wouldn't say it's miserable necessarily, but I probably wouldn't play it solo unless I reaaally wanted to farm something and no one else did and no one was joining my room.
>>543323576Holy BASED thank you!!
>>543342435Lost Odyssey and Chrono Trigger are Final Fantasy though.Moreso than XIII for sure.
>>543342767Vagrant Story is also Ivalice. Possibly more importantly, it's Ivalice and Matsuno, so I guess the OP and Pastebin maker is a Matsuno hater.
>>543342178I went from a boring bow user to loving the hunting horn because of multiplayer.>>543342874>Vagrant Story is also IvaliceCorrection, it was retconned at the last second into being Ivalice.
>>543343213>Correction, it was retconned at the last second into being Ivalice.It is a Matsuno Ivalice game, Matsuno hater.
>>543343329>everyone that disagrees with me is a haterSure is REDDIT around here.
>>543343460Hey, I don't make the rules here. If I'm a Matsuno hater because I liked most of his games but didn't like his work on XIV, then you're a Matsuno hater for putting his games in the shitpost filter Pastebin.
>>543343460That's how Matsunofaggots are: you're with them or against them. No middle ground possible.There's a consensus that they're r/elitedangerous rapefugees.
>>543342767>>543342874>Matsunohater-kun back at it again Not surprised desu
The OP and Pastebin maker hates:>Sakaguchi>Uematsu>MatsunoIf it wasn't already obvious, he's just a shitposter.
>>543343707Seems so. Sad but true.
>>543343678meant for >>543343213
>>543343563>I am a spineless cuck who let others push him aroundOkay.
>>543344215meant for >>543343213
>>543344215You angered it.
>>543311586She truly is a muse, in the truest sense of the word. Her games, her adventures, her fragrance inspire new great achievements in the series. She is, in the truest sense, the Final Fantasy. Mother..."Rose, toi, ô chose par excellence complètequi se contient infinimentet qui infiniment se répand, ô têted'un corps par trop de douceur absent,rien ne te vaut, ô toi, suprême essencede ce flotant séjour;de cet espace d'amour où à peine l'on avanceton parfum fait le tour."------------------"Oh Rose, you perfect thing beyond compare,infinitely restrainedand infinitely lavished, oh, headof a body with far too much wandering sweetness,nothing is equal to you, oh you supreme essenceof this inconstant hour,your perfume wanders all aboutthis space of love we have scarcely entered."
Finished chapter 11Holy shit that took forever, I didn't even get close to doing every side quest there either, very odd to basically strand all the side content on one specific part of this otherwise linear game but whateverI assume chapters 12 and 13 are gonna be pretty short, feels like the game is racing to the end nowI imagine the last of it will be as good as the rest of it but FF13 is decent, people are just mean
>>543347790Don't play XIII, it sucks ass. The characters are not likeable, the game is just a corridor, and Lightning is a mary-sue rapist. Play a GOOD game, like FFXII.
>people share positive opinions about XIII>blatant shitposting immediately intensifiesHmmmmm....
Why is XIII so popular among shitposters?
>>543336959Her games are so inspirational...
>>543349982>Hama is LR chadI'll give it to them, Lightning Returns is pretty unique game overall.
>>543347523>mother...Many people have been saying this lately.
>>543350342I've never had a problem with jimbo. He and the lightning appreciator are the only posters here who talk about final fantasy.
>>543352461Nobody care what you think. Especially when you agree with yourself like that, so shamelessly.
>>543352991>Nobody care what you think.And yet you'd rather reply to me and talk about me than say anything about final fantasy.
>>543352991You angered the fatherless.
>>543353570Not that hard, Paulie hates being uncovered.
>>543355575Like a vampire
I want to fuck Aerith
>>543294350V raped VIIR
>>543343460>>543343601Reminds me of the lightingfag calling everyone merely critical of the game a hater and lighting hater. And somehow trolling the very character.
>>543366234>Reminds me of the lightingfag calling everyone merely critical of the game a hatersounds like projection
Reminder that XVI is a shit game.
I WILL HAVE THAT BUSTER SWORD!
REeminder that developers are also people.
>>543368775This
>>543367173>irrelevant image (insecurity) and "no u"It happened a thread or two ago. Even in this very thread. Even some criticism in this thread was just met with "shitpsoster". You're a cultist.
>>543349818
FFXVII>Two protagonists: Woman and man>Names: Felina and Sagaeth>Felina: Magic fencer. Battle style is mixing her rapier with magic projectiles, using her rapier to throw projectiles, magic mixing and magic sword techniques. Evolves into dual weild sword (more physical) or Magic dancer (focused on magic). She's a descendant of an ancient race thats proficient on magic. Currently persecuted by the Empire and the church to use her and her abilities to unlock the ancient race secrets>Sagaeth: Dragoon. Battle style is jumping around using the terrain as an advantage, physical based. Evolves into Royal knight (tank, drops the jumping, focuses on blocking/parry) or High Dragoon, Dragoon but better. He's an ex-empire soldier that joins Felina in search of her people since 1. He hates the empire 2. His father, an archaeologist, is missing and 3. Felina is hot
>>543376193>Battle system: ARPG, slower than FF7R, still ATB based. The innovation comes from using the terrain and jumping around (Sagaeth) and mixing in real time the magic elements to create unique attacks via Magic orbs she gathers, mixes and uses (Felina)>Setting: Solarpunk.>Main plot: The continent economy is based around the ancient race technology and artifacts called "relics" (scientists study the ancient race. Archeologists discover the ancient race. There's organized crime that wants the relics for the black market, and theres mercenary groups that help people for a price, like the clans in FFTA, from these mercenary groups theres a legendary one, led by XXXXX, a master swordsman, that will eventually become the main villain (yes, our sephiroth). The different main political forces like the XXXX empire, the XXXX kingdom and the XXXX church are trying to control the world economy through a "cold war" just passive aggresive shit. But theres a 4th faction, a cult, that works from the shadows that has an ulterior motive, and it has to do with the secret religion the ancient race had. Felina is on a journey to know herself, her heritage and to fight the 4th faction/XXXXX master swordsman which are the real enemy.>3 endings, based on Felina/Sagaeth relationship level (teammates, comrades (friends), Lovers)>FF elements: basically everything. Moogles, Cid, Airships, Cactuars, malboros, etc. The crystals in these case are the source of magic and they are none other than the ancient race religion god energy.
Lightning is a dyke.
>>543347790>FF13 is decent, people are just meanSadly it's true. Having a neutral to positive opinion about a controversial game like Final Fantasy XIII will make you the target of the "fatherless" shitposter.Glad you've enjoyed the game, anon. It has amazing music, great combat, and some of the best artwork in the series. We love FFXIII here.
>>543347790>FF13 is decent, people are just meanMuch like Barry "ruined" XV's online reputation, so too did Paulie ruin XIII's online reputation (which, to be fair, was already pretty bad)
>>543347790FF13 was unironically ahead of it a time. Even by today’s standards it still has its fair share of issues but it really doesn’t deserve the amount of hate that it gets.
>>543352461>I've never had a problem with jimbo. He and the lightning appreciator are the only posters here who talk about final fantasy.There are indeed several of us who want to talk about Final Fantasy. You can spot us by our willingness to post positively about the series.Other people though, they have been dedicated to namefag theatre for so long, they can't imagine doing anything else.
>>543376987you have to be a woman to be a dykelighting is a man that wants to fuck a kidhe is a faggot pedophile.
>>543349090>>543349818>>543352991>>543353570>>543355575>>543366234>>543375431>>543376987>>543379021>>543379240>sir, the time for your daily 'heroine meltdown' has arrived
>>543352461"Lightning appreciator" mostly talks about himself and his bogeymen. Like, even just look at his previous post.
>>543379464And you talk about nothing other than him
>>543379587Completely incorrect. I mostly talk about Final Fantasy.
>>543347523>>543349982>>543350342Mother....she is so supreme and heavenly.Only foul beasts of the field, vermin that scurry, would ever dare to denigrate her sacred name and image. Leclaire non-believers? They are not my niggas.
>all that XIII spamgrossplease post actual Final Fantasy
Wait until FF14 merges into this thread. Lmao.
>>543379587The fatherless spammer is getting desperate and samefagging like crazy to manufacture consensus against me (happens daily)He's been shitting his pants about someone saying they are enjoying FFXIII since 3AM CST
Minigame bros... What happened?
>>543380186I mean, he's right. People nowadays are in a hurry when it comes to videogames because theres too much of them coming out and they dont want to miss out.
>>543380186>>543380380people don't want pointless ubisoft busywork
>>543380446It isnt pointless though, it offer rewards.
>>543379945I think it's time for you to leave now. It's been 7 hours of melting about Lightning. Go talk about something else>>543380186Personally I really enjoy having lots of different forms of interactivity. I really enjoyed taking my time with Rebirth and playing most every mini game. But it's true, we have to admit it. They went too far in some places in Rebirth, especially with catching Chocobo's. It makes a second playthrough way, way slower than it should be. I'm ready for part 3 to remove all the towers and other "copy paste" world intel for a different form of exploration in the Highwind.
>>543379464>Like, even just look at his previous post.Wow. Would you look at that. *ALL* of he posts previous to this post are about himself and his bogeymen, and *ALL* of his posts after this post are about himself and his bogeymen as well. No Final Fantasy at all. Only avatarfagging and bogeyman schizo posting.
How would you design the weapon battles that arent just hitting legs? at least bizarro sephiroth in rebirth was a decent attempt at tackling big ass enemy fights
>>543380186The important thing is that Hamaguchi addressed a criticism of Rebirth by shutting it down completely, because there are no valid criticisms of Rebirth.
>>543381262He's not shutting down anything, Jimbo. He's just saying how he feels like, giving his opinion.
>>543381164Cloud, Yuffie and Tifa can all fight in the air, as well as I'd have to assume Cid. Barret and Vincent can shoot.It could be possible for them to lock your party composition for a cinematic boss fight and only able to use characters equipped with long range abilities.
>>543381357>I saw some people say that maybe some parts of the game were a bit too long>"Nope. They're wrong. Everything was exactly as long as necessary. Players are just rushing too much nowadays, that's all."Criticisms addressed and promptly invalidated. Hamaguchi should post on the /ffg/. Nomura would fit in here as well.
>>543381592theres a difference between >nope they are wrongand>I honestly dont believe that
>>543381694Not when that statement is coming from one of the people making the game.
>>543381262The games director disagrees with the criticism, saying that he feels that the length of time dedicated to interactions with the world is not too long. But he acknowledges the critique, ensuring work will be done on the next game to make it "feel a bit more concise".Somehow, this neutral statement is worth you decrying him (attention seeking) while calling him "/ffg/ shitposter". Maybe you just don't like to hear anyone with a positive outlook discuss anything? Food for thought.
>>543381793He's saying how he feels like, Anon.Dont shut him down.
>>543382004>The games director disagrees with the criticismRight. That's why I said "Nope. They're wrong", because if the guy making the game disagrees with the criticism, then it means nothing. It's exactly the same as Kate saying people are wrong for disliking Wuk Lamat. Look at it another way: if you think that you and your wife aren't having sex enough, and you bring this up to your wife, and your wife says "honey, I think we're having sex exactly as much as we need to", do you think your plight is being heard, or do you think she's saying "Nope. You're wrong"?>Somehow, this neutral statement is worth you decrying him (attention seeking) while calling him "/ffg/ shitposter". This is a lot of projection. You also quoted something that I didn't say, so...>>543382184I, too, am simply stating how I feel :)(actually true)
>>543381357That wasn't my post you silly billy.
>>543381164>>543381472To continue on this because I really hope part 3 has good Weapon fights, I'd want to design them with multiple health bars and points of attack and it would cause different kinds of ailments or effects when you break them, like going for the legs will slow it down, and going for the arms weaken it's attacks. Pretty simple stuff, but good stuff nonetheless. We have fought some pretty damn big stuff in VIIR already, so I really don't think this is all that different.
>>543382496Every post is one of his many bogeyman, so I don't even bother to correct him anymore.
>>543382496You are not him, anon.
>>543382420>"As we work on the conclusion to the trilogy, we are striking a balance on how story arcs are told and spread out so as to ensure that the game feels a bit more concise."
>>543382521>I'd want to design them with multiple health bars and points of attack and it would cause different kinds of ailments or effects when you break them, like going for the legs will slow it down, and going for the arms weaken it's attacksthat already exists in remake/rebirth, Scarlet works like that, same as other enemies with multiple parts
>>543382629You'd think he'd be better at this after dedicating so much time and headspace to it.>>543382758I am literally jimbo. I'm just saying that post about Hamaguchi wasn't mine. I'm going to have to post the image again aren't I?
>>543380186We won.It's back to story focused FF games.Kiddie minigame openworld slop is over.
>>543382809Yup. Just another soulless PR statement. >"Everyone seems to think that there is too much bloat in Rebirth. Well, they're wrong. I'm making the game and they're wrong. Everything takes exactly as long as it needs to. You guys are just rushing too much. Stop thinking about playing other games, you should only be playing the VII Remake Trilogy. Oh, but... don't worry! Part 3 will be exactly as long as you want it to be. Please buy the game. We desperately need you to buy the game. No one bought Rebirth, so please buy Part 3. It will be everything that you want please just buy it."
>>543382004>But he acknowledges the critique, ensuring work will be done on the next game to make it "feel a bit more concise".That's a shame, because those critics are wrong. Who complains about having too much content? He should ignore them and give players even more to do in the next part.
>>543383108What would you have said if you have to say "we will take all your comments into consideration for part 3" so it doesnt sound like PR?
>>543383008I'd rather not say if I'd prefer more minigames or a more concise game until I see what we get.
>>543383274I would simply say nothing, because I'm supposedly a game dev not a PR person, and I would deliver a product that is in line with people's criticisms. Part 3 is absolutely going to launch with even more bloat, are you kidding? That's not even a question. Everything must always be bigger and better. If you can't waste more hours of your life in Part 3 than in Rebirth, it will be a failure in the eyes of people who defend and praise Rebirth's bloat. There's going to be an airship for crying out loud. The world *must* be larger, and it *must* be filled with more minigames. What else could it possibly be filled with if not more useless, bloated, time wasting minigames with some Ubisoft/MMO checklist chores that earn you some meaningless tidbits of brand new lore? You think they could actually fill and entire game world with real, meaty content? Fuck no. People complained about the cat quest in Remake, but that was a pretty streamlined game, and even then it was pretty small, not even showing all of Midgar when it very well could have, so even when VIIR is small, it's still bloated. Rebirth shows a lot more, but it's way more bloated. There's no way you think Part 3 is going to be anything other than a bloatfest that you're gonna have to run damage control for by responding to every single criticism with "well, you don't NEED to do that"
>>543383108>>543383235>>543383845FFVIIR shitposters are really damn cranky, I wonder who pissed in their cereal this morning>>543382935>that already existsI know, which is why I'm not sure why you'd be worried about just wacking on their legs. Imagine you disable the legs and arms and only then can you finally attack the big glowing button in the center of the chest without getting punished, the only health bar that actually matters. Arms and legs health will regenerate and then you keep going. I mean yeah it feels a bit safe, but as long as the fights are still well designed and fun to play, that basic boss formula works for me. Throw in your statuses and ailments and all kinds of crazy attack animations and that's more than enough for me.
>>543384018If you didn't want to participate in a conversation that you began, then you shouldn't have started it.
>>543383845Regardless of if there is more "bloat" or less I already know what I'm going to tell anyone who criticizes it for either. Spoiler: They're going to be wrong.No I will not be saying what my personal feelings on the content of the game is at any point.
I'm not buying 7R3.
>>543384151Based. I'm like that as well. I just agree with and defend anything that any dev says. That way, no matter what, I'm always right on 4chan. ...except when I said that the Whispers wont be returning in Rebirth... and when I said that Nomura was joking about the Masamune's blade having an organic quality to it...
When Kate tells people their criticisms are wrong, she's cringe. When Hamaguchi tells people their criticisms are wrong, he's based.
>>543376358>>543376193Not FF.
>>543383845>I would simply say nothing, because I'm supposedly a game dev not a PR person, and I would deliver a product that is in line with people's criticisms.So you just dont say anything when they interview you?
>>543379228Debunked by >>543379448, >>543380141, and >>543379464.
>>543384759Hamaguchi was a mary sue all along?
I've been seeing a lot of FF16 glazing on social media lately, to a degree that, frankly, seems astroturfed.Is this just a thing that happens with mid/bad FF games that I'm just now noticing, like when fans of 13 came out of the woodwork to claim that it's good actually? Or is it some kind of marketing push?Either way it seems very strange
>>543384018>people discussing news>project your anger onto them after getting btfo by themShut the fuck up, shitposter.
There are many valid criticisms for any video game. This valid criticism line has been beaten like a dead horse by the most sensitive and desperate XIV sucking fag this general has ever seen for years now (from what I gather)If you want to know why discussion about FF is impossible here, look no further. It's not because of some namefag boogie man 'Paulie', 'Barry' or 'Jimbo'. It's because of no image posters, who don't contribute positively, who do absolutely nothing but troll FF and incessantly deflect away from positive discussions. They will tell you up and down 1000 times a day that it's everyone else besides them who is at fault for destroying discussions. But they never, ever stop false flag trolling about Final Fantasy VII.
>>543385149The 10/10 FFXVI has always been good, actually.13 only got a boost because it was the first FF of kids that have now grown up.
>>543385352Not FF. You're also getting schizophrenic over your boyfriend. And funny how most of your 2nd paragraph applies to other games here, not just 7R. Weird how before you said to ignore it all when it came to those other games.
>>543384018Sorry, but JimBASED won and you lost.
So Sephiroth was just possessed by Masamune who's just Jenova in sword form?
>>543367173You got raped, see>>542766662>>542776992
>>543384402The few times I have given my personal thoughts they have turned out to be wrong and haunted me ever since. So now I just tell other people they're wrong and shut them down when I don't like their posts. I'll never go further than that and share my opinions ever again.
>>54338559716 is a 6/10 at best. It's saved from being a worst case scenario purely by virtue of series leitmotifs and like 2 visually impressive moments. But you need to do more than jangle keys and play the music I member to be a good game 16 is extremely atrophied in comparison to the games it's trying to rub shoulders with, even without the Coughing Baby v Nuclear Bomb blowout that is comparing it to the worst DMC/platinum games. NuGoW has more depth of gameplay, and that bar is knee high in Satan's wine cellar
>>543386189Why link to a posts that don't prove what was being said lol
>>54338657116 is the most memorable FFit's discussed multiple times daily here
>>543386884XIII more so.
>>543386884The only thing I remember from 16 is that time Clive got naked and chained himself up for no reason, muh slavery, and an overwhelming disappointment from realizing the combat is as deep as a puddle. And as wide as a puddle. And grimy and limp like a puddle
>>543387904you may be homosexual
>>543385028Afraid so.
>>543386325As blind, devoted supporters and worshippers of our great lords and deities - the video game and its developers - it's far too easy to lose oneself in the zeal of persecuting heretics only to find out later, as ordained from the gods themselves, that actually it was our own sermons which were heretical all along. Sometimes I'm too passionate and sometimes I love too much. At least my heart is always in the right place.
Minna-san, konnichiwa.Regarding the development of Part 3, it has been so far going well. Internal discussions show there's been interest in a more linear, focused story experience for the climax, and we will make sure to take that into account.We have also heard there's interest in a slower, open-ended story the player can take at his own pace,and we will also make sure to take that into account.We believe Part 3 will be able to meet expectations and hope you will buy it day 1.Thank you for your support.
>>543385149If such a thing exists (I don't use Twitter or Reddit or Discord or wherever) then it's possible that Rebirth is responsible for this resurgence. Many, many people are now saying that they liked XVI (and especially Remake) much more than Rebirth.
>>543391249>As blind, devoted supporters and worshippersgood goy
>>543391380Wow. Hamaguchi-san is so based. He somehow always tells me exactly what I want to hear. I'm glad that the future of Final Fantasy is in his very capable and LGBTQ+ friendly hands.
XIII is a better game and FF than XVI.
>>543391380>>543391640Hopefully Hamaguchi heeds Cid's words instead of Kate's.
>>543392326
>>543366234Reminds me of the time the Lightningfag got in an angry racist tirade, got banned, and immediately evaded his ban.And just before that happened, it bitched at everyone he didn't like to "serve their bans", yet when he was the one to get banned, suddenly moderators were cringe and Lightning-haters.
>>543394975>And just before that happened, it bitched at everyone he didn't like to "serve their bans"That is pretty funny and ironic. Unfortunately, I think the ironic and the humor is lost on him.
>>543395189Oh, yeah. It is. I ironically praised Lightning once, the irony went woooosh over his head and he thought I was serious.He's too stupid to understand irony, humor, or annoyance, just take a look at how he reacts when you tell him to sod off, he immediately shifts the blame to Lightning, and then get offended on the behalf of a fictional character.
Claire's fierce intensity within...
>>543394975>>543395189>>543395908You can tell this discussion angers the fatherless.
>>543198339It's happening again
>>543397461Yes, it's really angry. You can tell it's angry when it tries to shitpost his mary sue waifu.
>>543367173Historic.
You do have the achievement, don't you?
>>543366234The Lightningcuck isn't very self-aware.A lack of father will do that...
>>543397094Lightning has yet again won a truly decisive battle.When will she stop winning?
>>543366234Oh you really pissed him off with that, he's been spamming posts trying to prove he's not angry.
>spamming posts trying to prove he's not angryBut enough about the last 24 hours of your life lmfao
>>543400169 here, meant to quote >>543399709.Sorry guys, I'm new here, this isn't like Reddit, but they banned me for spam so here I am :)
>>543400169Supremely ironic.
>>543399482>When will she stop winning?Never. Final Fantasy XIII Remastered Trilogy soon.Final Fantasy XIII Remake soon.VII Part 3 GOTY 2026.Claire will inspire even more creators in the future.
>>543400471>lightningcuck got banned from redditlmaoLiterally got laughed out of the circus, how autistic do you have to be to be banned from THERE? lol.
>>543400658A lot, but as you can see in this thread, autism is what it's got in excess.
>>543269289Proven once again. It's been an entire day now. The migrant is now describing my imaginary Reddit account after proclaiming that I'm only here to talk about myself. Truly a grim fate to be met with>>543400617>VII part 3 GOTYI think 2027, but yeah. Every single FFVIIR has been in game of the year talk and has won awards bigly from all around the world. How many other video game trilogies can boast that same accolade? Not many.>Claire will inspire even more creators in the future.I saw her fragrant influences on E33 indeed. Third person cinematic camera, slow hip sway, mostly linear zones with small paths. Lightning slow walked down her Corridor so that Alicia could sprint and jump and soar on Esquie through her Canvas.
>>543400658Now he's trying to go back on his words, lol. You must've made it very, very angry.
They should write Final Fantasy XVII.
>>543401347The fatherless hates actual Final Fantasy discussion. We had a really fun talk about FFT earlier, and he HAD to crash it to rant about its mary sue waifu and her shit game, literally the worst FF.
>three fragrant heroines in THE quintessential V>three fragrant heroines in VII>three fragrant heroines in X-2>three fragrant heroines in XIII>three fragrant heroines in Clair ObscurCoincidence? I reckon not.
Just so you guys know.A fragrance is a smell. Meaning that the fatherless is saying that on top of being a terribly written, moody bitch constantly on her period, Lightning also smell and should shower.
>>543401262>Lightning slow walked down her Corridor so that Alicia could sprint and jump and soar on Esquie through her Canvas.Claire's trilogy is also so inspiring because its creators managed to solve fundamental design problems despite their reputation being severely tarnished in 2009. Imagine releasing a corridor and being shitposted by almost the entire world, but you pull yourself together, take control of the situation, and literally a couple of years later release 40/40 XIII-2, solving almost all the design problems of the original XIII, with introducing perhaps only one new problem - balance. Now that's what I call successfully overcoming fate.
>>543402671>Imagine releasing a corridorNo, I can't imagine scamming my players with a shit game.Then again, I have some dignity, unlike XIII's devs.
>>543349673Someone is boiling mad, replying to themselves angry about Lightning, all because someone new to the thread shared neutral praise for FFXIII at 3AM this morning. It's been 11 hours now.>>543402264>women cannot and do not smell good, everMaybe where you come from, Yusuf. But I've smelled lots of cute women in my day.>>543402671True. CS1 proves that it's their willingness to experiment and change the formula, take a risk while maintaining fidelity, that creates bold and innovative game design concepts. Like Final Fantasy VIII, for example. To this day I think VIII really has no peer outside of FFVII Rebirth and Clair Obscur.
should the next numbered ff pull a resident evil with the title? resident evil has "dropped" the numbers from the titles with biohazard, village and requiem but they're still pretty explicitly 7, 8 and 9. if the big number next to "final fantasy" in the title is scaring newfags away, they could try the same with ffxvii and just call it something else.
Why does the migrant think the word "fragrance" means "stinks like shit"?Is it because that's the only thing that he can smell lol
>three>fragrant>heroinesThe equation is quite simple. You put cute women in the Final Fantasy game, and I buy the game.
>>543402264The post that angered the shitposter so much, he had to spam and samefag, but was too scared to address it directly.
A lot of optional side-quests and content is fine, the only problem is when the game main story gets long and repetitive forcing you to backtrack and fight the same bosses or go through the same plot points multiple times like DQ11.
>>543401920>fragranthttps://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/s7b7f0/snnnnniiiiiiffffffffffffoh_yes_my/
>>543403836This creature that occupies this general is so obviously not a White man, so it's just impossible to actually take it serious. It does make a funny dancing monkey though. 15 years and it still gets instantly angry and threatened the moment that "Final Fantasy XIII" enters his peripheral vision. Not good folks. Not right>>543404034I'm gonna agree. As long as new areas to explore are thrown at me at a decent enough pace that I'm engaged simply through making forward progress, there could be 100 random collectibles scattered across side paths that mean nothing. I'm not gonna get bothered by them. I wouldn't want them there just for aesthetic reasons, but I don't really care if they are there. I'm not gonna attempt to go find them, I'll just stumble along that stuff as I go. So the marker fluff doesn't really matter because it doesn't slow you down if you don't allow it to. But it's those repetitive areas when you are forced to circle back through the same town again and again that will really make me want to stop playing a game. That's why linearity is my preferred game design.>>543404426>reddit>not Final FantasyI'm gonna stop you right there. You gotta go back.
>>543403047>CS1 proves that it's their willingness to experiment and change the formula, take a risk while maintaining fidelityAnd at the same time remaining true to the core approach to creating Final Fantasy: preserving tradition and staying true to its legacy, combined with experimentation reflected in both story and design; emphasising on maintaining balance, which was one of the most important themes for the series' creator.
>>543386791But it did, why bury your head in the sand?
>>543405549>Every time you look at the world through this object, you will see a new and different reality.>That is the beauty of the crystal.And this image you posted of mister Kitase is why the XIII-GODS and VIII-LORDS run this place. Through peace and love, miracles are accomplished, dude. It's all about the passion and positivity that Final Fantasy brings to the world. The courage of humanity, to boldly embrace what we've never known before, while honoring those who came before us and carrying forward the virtues they hold dear. Final Fantasy is a story about social, emotional progress and the triumph of love over hate in the collective conscious.
>>543405549>an object that doesn't change yet continues to change>that is the beauty of the crystalWhat a fucking Chad. While some, let's not point fingers, believe that "The legacy of the crystals has shaped our history for long enough", trying to destroy its traditions, true connoisseurs and FF creators see real meaning of the series and preserve continuity of its legacy.
>>543392021>crap is better than turdAll FF past 2000 have been mid except for crossover games, XII, and Crystal Chronicles.
>>543402264>>543401920Lightning smells like toberlone!
>>543406273lol no it didn't
>>543404034Rebirth wishes it was DQ XI.
>>543405098>it's just impossible to actually take it seriousok ESL
>>543406339>love>peace>from those cultists that whine about Yoshida half the thread or more lmao?
>I-i'm not mad>here, let me prove how not mad I am by insulting that guy living rentfree in my head and calling him names!!!!The fatherless? Not a smart creature.
>>543406339CS1 stories are truly focused on preserving and rebuilding connections: Cloud regains his identity to become a conscious standard-bearer for Zack's ideals; Squall reconnects with his father, with his past, and with people around him; Tidus reconnects with his father; Claire reconnects with herself and others, especially her sister, successfully escaping the fate of an abandoned psychopath digging his own and others' graves. The focus is always on restoring lost connections to the world and society, rebuilding the chain of memories and legacy. This is also reflected in the characters' attitudes toward the world: no one destroys any aspects of the world in these games, even if these aspects are the source of problems. From Yu Yevon's use of Pyreflies in X to subjugate Fayth and create Sin, no one concluded that Pyreflies—the very essence of Spira itself—need to be destroyed. Very telling, I say.
>>543407358Rampant hypocrisy, yes.
>>543407147That isn't ESL lil bro
The fragrant and pungent aroma of the trans icon, Lightning!
>>543407929ok ESL
>>543408112wtf that mary sue is trans??? Man, that explains why she's so full of hate and aggression and punches innocent people like Snow, trying to emasculate him to forget about the loss of her own dick.Typical of her kind of people to be angry at everyone and a rapist groomer with kids.
>>543408309Lightning is indeed trans(bian)
>>543408386What a disgusting creature. A human that cannot breed is not human, it's just a creature.
>>543406361Let's not point any fingers no. But why would that someone want to remove the crystal legacy in the first place? I notice so many disruptive and subversive messages in media today, it's almost like a targeted, coordinated effort?....No, couldn't be.At first I was willing to forgive a transgressive message, because MGS2 is my favorite MGS game. I enjoy something that subverts my expectations and surprises me. But when you play the game, its FF themes like love triumphing over hate, friendship is magic, and humans will suffer and fight no matter the cost in order to make our own choices, is perhaps some of the most cliche and over the top you've ever seen in the entire series, without any of the game design to back it up. Even more so than a game like FFXIII, which had arguably the most cliche ridden JRPG boss fight ending in the entire series.So did that person want to throw away the legacy of the crystals or not? It seems like they just want to suck all the magic, fun and whimsy out of the setting to replace it with grimdark hacking and slashing. >>543407358When love meets hate, it often looks like violence. IYKYK>>543407652>no one destroys any aspects of the world in these games>Very telling, I say.This is extremely, vitally important, you are correct. Doing something like that would go against the Dao, it would go against love....and heroes are usually in their world to restore some natural/divine order in opposition to the villain who represents Chaos. Destroying the villain to maintain divine order does not mean upsetting that natural order forever and ever until the end of time.
>>543408683I read the opposite, that trannies like Lightning the Mary-Sue can't have kids ever, and are doomed to be unfertile subhuman creatures, cursed to never have kids.Just like Lightning is not a real character, just a shitty parody, a fanfic OC based on an actual interesting character.
>>543408623It is very strange that one guy spends 18 hours of every day horny posting about the stench of Lightning's axe wound.
>>543408309>>543408683>>543408886The fatherless does not approve this discussion. Look at him, he's crying and malding.
Damn the local peasant population is getting ROWDY folks. Look and listen. Positive FF talk was immediately drowned out by literal tranny-posting.This is truly a sickness unlike any other.
>>543409135Seems so.
What's the form of cognitive dissonance called where someone shitposts a fictional character relentlessly for 15 years of their life, and then whenever confronted by this reality, they blame everyone who likes the character for their outbursts?
>>543408623Alli Hillis, so fragrant, so heroine/ourgal/ through and through
>>543409135Yup, it is.
Can you both shut the fuck up?
>>543403510kek
>>543409796It's called "having no father figure in your life and lusting for a tranny".
>>543409796The only people I can think of who would fit this description are Clotis.
>>543410301kek
>>543410301Makes sense. That must be why he posts about Wuk Lamat and projects his tranny fetish onto Lightning, as well as her voice actress and cosplayers
>>543410694You can try to deflect but it won't work, fatherless. All you do is embarrass yourself further.
>>543410694>why he posts about Wuk LamatLiterally when did that happen? The only Wuk Lamat posts I saw were yours.
>>543410229This "fatherless" spammer has been spamming this general for likely years at this point, mate. It's a XIV faggot and a massive Yoshi sucker. The definitive "cultist"What I like to do is just post FF that I like, then stop posting and watch him squirm. I will leave for hours or days at a time, just to come back and see him dance to the tune of "Blinded by Light". It's ben going for literally 12 hours straight now, so he's got another 12 to go before he reaches critical mass.
>>543409285Troonies are yet another death cult, characteristic of developed societies with high levels of prosperity. XIII somewhat described this kind of social mood: when you're fed, watered, and cuddle-fed your entire life, you become so detached from reality AND at the same time anxious that you begin to fear your own shadow and personally surrender your freedom to those who, for the sake of their detached from reality and human relationships fantasies of right and good are ready to exterminate you and themselves.Vanille's game tried to warn us.
>>543410694You're the only person who false flags that you like Wuk Lamat, so yeah, it checks out.
>>543411349TL;DR: nuuu i won't shut up, i have imagined a moral high ground defending my own spam so it's okay when I do it!!11!!And the answer is: you're not any better than him, you're an obnoxious spammer who keeps trying to stir shit up between fans of different games while literally, LITERALLY spamming your trash waifu and your shitty poems, and then you have the nerve to pretend you're the oppressed party when you're spamming.This is why everyone call you the fatherless, nobody like you, you're obnoxious, and you're hypocritical.
Good riddance. Rest in shit.>>543411593Brutal. You just know the fatherless is going to be very, very angry at this.
>>543411593When he's not avatarfagging or actively trolling people, we sometimes actually talk about Final Fantasy. When he's avatarfagging and actively trolling and talking about himself, no one talks about Final Fantasy. I feel like a normal person would have... well, first a normal person wouldn't avatarfag 100% of the time like he does, and a normal person wouldn't shitpost 100% of the time like he does either, but let's pretend he's a normal person for just a second. I feel like a normal person would kinda lay low if they knew that everyone hated them and that his presence actively derails all possibly conversation, but no. He leans into it. He wants to be hated. He desires to be Barry 2.0. That is his goal.
We all love GOD Lamat here.
>>543411564It's too fucking bad that all of that TRUTH you just dropped on the message of XIII is and always will be completely lost on the dulled, apathetic, disenchanted, misanthropic masses. They didn't play the game, and they never will play the game. And even if they do play it, they are not at all capable of absorbing it.They will project about axe wounds and imaginary boogie men under their bed, replying to themselves until their end.
>>543411953>He wants to be hatedAnd at the same time, he whines, cries, moans, bitches, throws tantrums, and stomps the ground when he's told he's a moronic, idiotic fatherless loser.>>543411806Oh yeah. Prepare for spam, it's going to answer himself a lot, again, in a true raised-by-a-single-mother fashion.
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>>543412225>good news>more DLCs to buy that should be in the game by defaultIf you're a sheeple, sure.
>>543412225>"There were definitely some ideas to create a Rebirth DLC, and that was the plan at a certain point in time"I fucking knew there's be a Vincent DLC, but Rebirth sold so poorly that they canceled it. I also assumed that there'd be DLC for Part 3, but I don't know what it'd be. Advent Children?
>all final fantasy remasters made the space station a sky palacebaka so fucking lame, theres even a secret robot boss, i love when old fantasy games made these kinds of twists
>>543412538It's more in tune with the fantasy vibe, though. I personally hate that JRPG trend of having a precursor civilization and the reveal that magic is ashktually nanomachines or whatever.
The reality is that I arrive and post images of Lightning and that triggers the fuck out of very, very specific people here. Simple as.It's too bad they all refuse to post about what they want to post about, like anti 7 bait, when images of Lightning are floating around. It's almost as if.....
Finally the thread is good again
>>543412821The reality is that you show up, you shitpost reply to a few posts that are all several hours old, then you start avatarfagging while talking about yourself, and people tell you to fuck off but then you samefag while talking to yourself about how angry everyone but you is. Literally the only conversation about Final Fantasy that ever occurs here is when you aren't avatarfagging and shitposting.
>>543412523No DLC was announced shortly after release anon. You only thought there would be Vincet DLC because Remake did it for Yuffie. AC and DC are the obvious options for post story DLCOr they bitch out and make Ruby and Emerald DLC
>543412173Yup, he did NOT like the heavy dose of truth you gave him, he had to run away like the baby he is.
>>543412084There's a reason why people who spend a lot of time online tend to have more radical beliefs. Detachment from the earth, from grounded reality of concrete consequences, gives birth to demons of pure intellect. Cocoon is a perfect metaphor for this: a society detached from the earth, living in the sky, created by the androgynous god of pure mind, who also was called a succubus in XIII, despite being a male god. Lindzei is a literal tranny in FNC.
>>543413123>talking to yourself about how angry everyone but you isHe does that a lot, yeah. Always repeat that everyone is mad while spamming his shitty waifus from the worst FF game.
>>543411581Lmfao. And when did that occur in your mind?>>543413123You are choosing what you post about. Has that ever occurred to you before now?>>543413196>Lightning destroys the Jewish troon military industrial complex soul prison in the skyShe's....so.....based....Mother....I truly kneel to ourgal and princess of sales.
>>543413130>No DLC was announced shortly after release anon.Correct. *After* Rebirth flopped. >You only thought there would be Vincet DLC because Remake did it for Yuffie. ...no, I thought there'd be DLC because it's a blatant nostalgia bait cash grab. The Yuffie DLC set the precedence that they are unironically following the ancient shitpost about the absolute state of modern DLC as a blueprint for the release schedule of the Remake Trilogy. Unfortunately, Rebirth sold too poorly to warrant a DLC, thus the pivot to the PR statement: >"uhh... we're uhh... we're thinking about the fans! They're want us to hurry to Part 3, they don't want a DLC!"
>>543411593You definitely struck a nerve, he was too scared to answer you, and instead chose to bitch at others.
>>543413835if rebirth was a flop why are they still perusing a third installment and released it multiple platforms?
I wonder how the canceled Vincent DLC that they rolled into Part 3 after Rebirth flopped will play out. Is it going to be a side story? Is it going to be the intro? Is it going to be a "Vincent character quest"?
>troon hatched a subversive plan to destroy humanity>Lightning ruined they/them planOh I see why these "people" hate her
>>543414249https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost>>543414285Hi fatherless. Took your meds for your schizophrenia today?
>>543414285Why is that man wearing a dress?
>>543414249Are you retarded?
>>543413580>She's....so.....based....Mother....>I truly kneel to ourgal and princess of sales.Based, as they say.
>>543412225>RemakeSuccessful, had DLC>XVI Successful, had DLC>RebirthNo sales announcement still to this day, sold significantly fewer copies than XVI did, got lumped into a disappointing statement alongside Foamstars, devs constantly running PR for it, no DLC - turns out it was canceled due to a lack of sales
>>543414437Sunk cost does not explain why a multi-million dollar project that, according to you, failed to turn a profit and is being triple downed on with another installment despite, according to you, failing to generate interest or sales.Sunk cost does not explain why even more time and money was added by developing ports for other consoles after the ps5 release was completed. If the game did not sell on ps5 how would xbox, PC, Switch etc change that reality? If the game did not sell why would the third game do any better?Third installments traditionally sell worse than the sequel and original. You do not understand what "Sunk Cost" means. After Rebirth SE had the opportunity to end the Remake project. They had completed Rebirth. But instead they began production on a third installment. Creating a new cost of production.>>543414616I fear you might be if you think SE has the capital and time to just piss away failed projects.
>>543414285They hate her, cuz they ain't her. I'm not joking with you, Clairechad. It's the same psychology of why gay males can behave so catty toward pretty females. Sexual perversion meets projection. They view females as a threat in the same way that another female will. It is the same reason why most every disgusting troon can't stand the conventional feminine beauty standard and seeks to destroy it. Same reason why virgin otakus call real women 3DPD. Same reason why furries always put ears and tails and paws onto everyone and everythingIt's degenerate perversion. Simple as. This is precisely why someone would instantly and consistently accuse any and all women they dislike as being secretly male. It's 100000% insecure, perverse p-r-o-j-e-c-t-i-o-n
>>543415354>sold significantly fewer copies than XVI didshitposter, go back
>>543415545When he's right, he's right.
>>543415540>I fear you might be if you think SE has the capital and time to just piss away failed projects.Okay, so you are actually retarded. You're probably the same guy that I've broken this down to several times over the past year. There is no way on earth, no matter how badly any part of the VII Remake flopped, that they would ever cancel it. The only thing that would prevent them from finishing it is bankruptcy. That would be the biggest admittance of failure that any company could ever throw out. They'd sooner complete the trilogy, even if it meant going bankrupt after, than they would throw in the dishonorable towel of admitting that their golden goose, the most iconic JRPG of all time, couldn't meet market demands. Canceling the Remake Trilogy was never in the cards. Canceling a DLC, however, does seem like it was in the cards, because Hamaguchi just said that they canceled the planned Vincent DLC due to Rebirth's lack of sales. The VII Remake Trilogy's funding is carried by XIV, Nier Automata, and Remake. And despite this, they still had to cancel the Vincent DLC. There's no way in hell they'd ever cancel the project itself though, and depending on if Part 3 can recapture the audience that it lost between Remake and Rebirth, we might even get more after it's "finished". Hamaguchi said so himself as well.
>>543415545I hate her because he is a pedophilic homosexual who wears a dress.
>>543415859If someone doesn't like Lightning or FFXIII, then they can and should play the 40/40 FFXIII-2 instead. They would be sure to like Serah. She's smart, cute, and goofy. She's undeniably feminine, voice from Laura Bailey, she's literally a classical FF JRPG heroine in every sense of the word you can imagine.FFXIII series has something for everyone.
>>543416251>had to cancel the Vincent DLCYou got a source for that headcanon you've been repeating or is your source literally just an ancient meme?
>>543416615see >>543412225
>>543416251>There is no way on earth, no matter how badly any part of the VII Remake flopped, that they would ever cancel it.So you have no idea how corporate business works. Got it.>the only thing that would prevent them from finishing it is bankruptcy.>They'd sooner complete the trilogy, even if it meant going bankrupt afternigger do you even understand the words you are typing? "Hurr only bankruptcy woudl stop it" "they'll do it even if they go bankrupt">because Hamaguchi just said that they canceled the planned Vincent DLC due to Rebirth's lack of sales.Give me a source right now or kill yourself.Those exact words btw. "Vincent DLC was planned but canceled because of sales"
>>543416704see >>543412225
>>543416325>degenerate, insecure, perverse projectionWhat is going on inside that little peanut brain?Nothing good, I'll tell you what.
>>543412225Thanks for taking the heat off Lightning, champ. [Good work!]
>>543416668>>543416843"considering" doesn't mean cancelled. Calling an idea that is being floated around cancelled is like calling a random sperm cell that never started the insemination process an aborted baby. Every idea that passes through the planning room isn't a cancelled idea.They were "considering" horses instead of chocobos for XVI. That doesn't mean horses were cancelled, because the process of implementing horses never began.
>>543417520kek
>>543417520>They were "considering" horses instead of chocobos for XVI.Good lord, they were even going to leave it that way too.
>thinking about the cancelled horse DLC
If the planned Rebirth DLC had not been canceled due to lack of interest/sales, we would have heard this news *before* Rebirth flopped.
>>543416375>>543417042These face expressions radiate 200 IQ.
>>543417983Serah is absolutely divine. It's no surprise that her features seems to be a strong basis for most of the current CS1 heroines.I can't wait for a new CS1 FF game to have a new Archer girl again
>horse DLC>accompanying uma musume collabMaybe those could have saved XVI.
Another piece of the puzzle, Square Enix didn't even bother to pay to put Denuvo on Rebirth. They canceled its DLC and they didn't even bother to pay the Denuvo subscription. Even the Team Asano games have Denuvo. XVI had Denuvo. Ivalice Chronicles has Denuvo. Not Rebirth though!
>>543418354Are you sure this is an argument you wanna bring up?
>>543418927OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO
>>543418927kek
>>543418927...yeah? I don't see what your point is.
what the fuck happened to this general
>>543418319*saved Square Enix
>>543419092Retard
>>543419092That the game that could more easily be pirated still had more players on launch through legal means than the games that could ONLY be played at launch through legal means. Makes you wonder if it was a decision made at the developer studio level as opposed to the publisher level. CS1 decided against it while CS3 favors it despite the additional cost and it not necessarily leading to more people playing it at launch.
>>543419260Sometimes what a dev says is very important. Other times it's not important at all. Sometimes sales are very important. Other times they're not important at all.Sometimes Steam CCU are very important. Other times they're not important at all. Sometimes Steam reviews are very important. Other times they're not important at all. Sometimes Metacritic reviews are very important. Other times they're not important at all.
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>>543419523I accept your concession. >>543419545>That the game that could more easily be pirated still had more players on launch through legal means than the games that could ONLY be played at launch through legal means.That's not a relevant point to the conversation of Rebirth's lack of sales leading to canceled DLC. >CS1 decided against it while CS3 favors it despite the additional cost and it not necessarily leading to more people playing it at launch.Ivalice Chronicles was multiplat on launch, and XVI already sold more copies on PS5. Neither one of these things have anything to do with Rebirth's canceled DLC though. And Team Asano is neither CS1 nor CS3. We'll just have to see what they do with Part 3, but if it's a simultaneous multiplat launch I'd have to assume they'll go with Denuvo, but I'm probably not going to remember this post when Part 3 comes out. If I do, and I'm right, the person who wrote it would mysteriously disappear forever anyway.
>>543417919Repeating yourself doesn’t make your argument stronger.It just makes you look retarded.>>543419545Going to assume this came down to experience working with. CS3 had it. CS1 didn’t.
>>543420195>Going to assume this came down to experience working with. CS3 had it. CS1 didn’t.CS2 (Team Asano games) also had it.
>>543420195Its an Unreal game. I would think it would inherently be a lot more compatible and easier to tack on Denuvo than XVI's custom engine game that still ended up having it.
>>543412225Playable AC with cutscenes redone in-game as a send off would be cool ngl broskies
>>543406361>still letting another game live rent free in its head while also being wrong
I won
