Previous thread: >>543774189>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5, and Xbox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots, and squids to spread Managed Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.net/https://helldive.live/>MAJOR NEWShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7Sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw>LATEST PATCHESInto the Unjust: 4.1.0https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/538868565209514367
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>>543823372IT FUCKING ALWAYS HAPPENS YOU WAIT TO POST UNTIL I POST ILL HAVE YOUR HEAD FOR THIS- anywayAlright nope y'all are fuckin tourists and I'm Doug Dimmadone with this fucking narrative about bots.LAUNCH BOTS ONLY REQUIRED AP4. You could ALWAYS get away with quickly downing any launch bot with the AMR, LC, and AC. Hulks could always be shot in the coin slot. Tanks always had their rear heatsinks. That was fucking it for launch heavies by the way. This fucking myth about AT on bots is fucking insane and literally came from redditors who pissed and shit themselves so hard that the entire game got balanced around the Recoilless Rifle. And it became the retards solution to every enemy because of fucking course it would, making said retards think that because they couldn't put a round peg in a round hole before, that they HAD TO TAKE ANTI TANK ON BOTS because THEY THEMSELVES were so fucking garbage that they never figured out how to kill a Hulk or a Tank with AP4.If someone is arguing that AT was ever REQUIRED on bots, they are tourist reddit FUCKS and should be thrown in the surstromming basements. This is not to say, by the way, that AT was not useful. It was. It was much easier to take out tanks and hulks with AT weapons... Almost like it still fucking is. Absolute fucking insanity.
>nerftrannies lost, againWhy don't they just do the needful and 41%?
I when does the new bond drop? Credits burning a hole in my pocket!
nerftroons lostgucci lostbuffchads wonjustice poster won
How you guys noticed any performance improvements or better usage of your hardware since the update?
>>543823673Couple weeks probably. They did pause development on it so it's probably not done yet.
>>543823789yes
>>543823673Next week probably, or the week after.
>>543823663that's like asking why Jews won't do the needful and 6 gorillion themselves, which is funnily enough absolutely thread relevant because our absolute worst poster and nerftroon prime Gucci Niggers is a hairy Israeli pavement ape Helldivers
>>543823636RR was bad against bots before the buff patch even. Bots being the AT faction is some fucking newfag bullshit claim.
>>543823480fpbpyou know it's bufftoddlers time when a patch brings the worst AMR user I know to a state of exhilaration
>>543823789Significantly.>5800x3d>4070 12GB>16GB RAM>SSD>Win 10My performance issues literally disappeared. I went from running the game on mostly medium settings at native 1080p, getting frequent frame drops into the 40s to being able to play with all settings on at least high with a few on Ultra, Supersampled 1080p at a nearly fucking rock solid 60fps capped. It's literal swigger magic I don't know how the fuck they did it or what they changed. Cities used to be the worst offenders and they're like butter now. I do get momentary hitches once in a while, right about when the old frame drops used to start but then it goes right back to smooth. My CPU usage used to max out with a few cores being slammed really hard for a few minutes at a time. Nothing like that anymore.
>>543824115is this real? why use the rail gun when you can one shot hulks with the AMR?
>>543824305fret not, the next buffdivers patch will bring Senator to hulk oneshotting levels so you don't need to use either
>>543823774It won't feel like a victory until I see the name, which is hopefully soon and it's hopefully the correct one, AR-20L(S?) Justice!
>The game would have died if they listened to the nerf chad!We have these things called difficulty modes. But for some reason, this game's fanbase and only this game's fanbase is allergic to the idea of making some modes really hard and some modes easy. Only this game suffers from a fanbase so entitled that they get upset at the idea of a difficulty mode that is actually too difficult for them. Rather then lowering the difficulty or playing better. This fanbase instead throws tantrums and review bombs the game to make the hardest modes achieveable for them. And for some strange reason, a lot "people" here defend this behavior. That's because most people are redditors troons.
for all the retardation that is now possible with AMR, autocannon is an even bigger winner of this patch
The nerftroon seethe never stops does it
>>543824115I dont get it, who was asking for AMR to do more damage? Console players cant use it no matter how much damage it does, and PC players that were good with it were few and far between. I understand the crying about lightpen, console players were basically forced to use med pen guns for everything because their inability to precision aim for weakspots, I just cannot imagine the demographic of players that thought the AMR was bad.
You can deform lava
>>543824551This problem could have been solved by them putting more and more chaff in the lower difficulties so people didn't feel like they had to play D10 to experience actual enemy density. That's always been the only actual reason casual shitters want to play D10; D8 and below is a fucking snore.
>>543824115>>543824302>Bufftroons will actually defend this just to save face.grim
>>543824551I don't want to bring AT to every bot mission for War Striders and I don't want to pitifully plink at them with my AP4 of choice.Now I don't have to and I'll play more bot missions. It's literally an issue of variety instead of challenge (bots were never hard).
>>543824238Shams also said they'd look into game guard so optimization chads literally can't stop winning.Now they just need to not have every helldiver armor loaded at all times and some real occlusion culling
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>>543824730Go back to R eddit and be with your kind, troon.
>>543823636That's why warstriders were a good thing. You could easily solo the entire faction with just a senator before they showed up. Now they nerfed them, it's just a snooze fest again.
>>543824986
>>543824115>the low capacity, horrible ergo, high damage, precision sniper rifle can.... SNIPE? A... Precision weakspot??>and... It's the only ballistic weapon capable of doing this? Giving it a... A fucking niche??>oh my science oh oh no the trannies they're everywhere SAVE ME JOEL, JOHANN, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US?!?do us all a favor and go play the game. Hulks haven't been an issue for a year this changes nothing.
>>543825005Nah, I'd rather watch you apes jump up and down in your cages, throwing shit and screaming all day long because buffGODS won yet again
>>543824661The fact that they buffed the Autocannon's base damage by, like, 50%; when it was top tier is crazy to me.
>>543824740Very good question. More evidence of Swedes ignoring feedback if you ask me. People want AMR to be lower maintenace. Lower recoil, higher ergo, longer mag. Damage was stellar well before this patch. Swedes don't seem to give a fuck.
>>543825227>Hulks haven't an been issue for a yearThat's the problem, retard.
>>543824861"I don't want to work with my teammates that bring AT, and I can't be bothered to be slightly innefficient with AP4 when I'm forced to kill one"
>>543824551Too bad you missed the funny lobby because the asset requisition mission literally had bots spawning on top of us like old scientist extract
>>543824551>for some reasonArrowhead cultivated that fanbase, they fucking deserve it and so do (You)
>>543825227it exacerbates a problem I've been mad about for a long time (heavies being degraded to large chaff) so go fuck yourself with sharp objects
>>543825227That's the problem retard.>>543825330I think everyone was just bitching about the ergo stealth nerf it got and that was it.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243790413560/insane lobbyholy
>tried searching xitter reddit etc for more info on the warbond leak>find nothingDo we have the only "real" leaker remanining around here?
i hope to play with you guys one day, but im just not good enough. i still cant kill a factory strider with nothing but a redeemer
>>543824115Railgunbros, it's over
>>543825302>when it was top tierIt really wasn't, and pick rates proved it otherwise Swedes wouldn't have buffed it.
>>543825640just give it a bit of time, next patch will probably enable redeemer to down a fagstrider in two and a half magdumps
Is the bad still bad performance wise? Is the install size still inflated? Is enemy sound still fucked? Are swedes still the worst population of people in yurop?
>>543825590le filled
>>543824480you joke but they just buffed it this patch without saying they did, it's now like 10 extra damage away from being able to 2 shot hulk eyes
GGs to the anons in the lava lobbyI think people complaining the game is too easy are gonna be pretty happy, genuinely a lot of fun with all those new mission types. Pubbies are going to have an absolute meltdown over the difficulty though, it's definitely harder than Oshaune
>>543825302It's "just" 25%. I guess they didnt want it to feel left out after AMR gigabuff but still lol
>>543825791>you jokewhat makes you think that
>>543825794The stealth mission with limited respawns and a global aggression meter seems impossible with pubbies. The platinum mine mission felt like launch D9 extract with unending bot drops with hellish numbers. I can't wait
Accelerator rifle buff is pretty crazy though, 60 ergo wasn't needed but appreciated. Can probably sweep shot with it now stupid easily.
Someone said I should touch up my gens
>>543825423>slightly innefficientlmaoUse LC and ignore the new weakspots
>>543825791Nerftroon actually believes all the hyperbole he constantly posts
>>543825227>the low capacity, horrible ergo, high damage, precision sniper rifle can.... SNIPE? A... Precision weakspot??it always could retard. needing more than 1 shot doesn't mean it's incapable of sniping weakpoints. I guess the EAT is just literally incapable of killing war striders because it takes a minimum of 2 shots to kill one, right?
>>543825720autocannon is currently the highest dps support weapon anon, it always outdpsed AMR by virtue of more aoe and less reload time, and the gap is wider than ever nowalso it's not like a lot more items including AC won't enter the hulk oneshot club rather soon
>>543826002Run it back through and tell it to remove the white highlights
>>543826092>Use LCWhy would I ever do that.
>>543825626no
>>543826113He's right though. It does around 120 damage to hulk eye after all the calculations/resistances. The eye has 250 health. It's close.
>>543826234masochism or a desire to be seen as a clown
>>543824551Not even remotely true.When it comes to rewards/progression systems people always get mad that they cant access it due to difficulty. Helldivers is not the only game to have this issue and all games now allow everyone to win.
>>543826114>guess the EAT is just literally incapable of killing war striders because it takes a minimum of 2 shots to kill one, right?Uh... Anon...>>543826314You gotta remember they nerfed the fuck outta it with the drag. So it's more like 100.You might actually see it take 4 shots now
>>543826002you should the do
>>543824740I dont get anything in this patch at all. Its a flat power buff to nearly everything and the game was already on the verge of too easy.AMR/AC in particular is wild. Both were extremely good already.
>>543826424it can't. the belly is a combined 2400 health, not 1200. you need to factor in the bleedout HP.
>>543826002Was that little drawing also generated or hand drawn?
>>543826571I used MS paint
>>543826002Yup. That one's going on the superfridge.
>>543826114>>543826424>>543826539>war striderfuck me I meant FACTORY striders.fucking war striders on the brain
>>543826672Ah. Good. Keep doing it.
>>543826689>fucking war striders on the brainHot
>>543826539>war strider>belly???You just shoot one EAT at the dick and that's it
>>543826832That sounds like some edgy early 2000s band
>could have just given it ap4, and it'd been better for anti heavy damage than HE>Could have just given it 1000 damage and it'd been the best anti bot chaff throwable>Coulda just given it demo 40 so it'd have the niche of blowing up structures and buildings by itselfI can't get over how much they buffed dynamite. 6 inner 12 outer radius with those state lines is insane. For perspective HE is 2.5 and 7 meters, meaning for the entire radius HE has, dynamit does it's full damage at ap4. While HE only does it at ap4 at 2.5 meters. While doing less damage over all.
>bots have become so braindead I need to go run bugs with the shittiest weapons I can imagine to feel anythingyeah it's over
>>543825167except the warstriders can't kill dick alone so even then they were a minor nuisance at worst
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>>543827059They enabled the rest of the faction, locked you down, and if you didn't have an ally made you easier to get mopped up by other bots.Basically a team check. But solo divers keep getting buffed.
>>543825775game seems to run better. it doesn't crash or freeze when i quit, which it used to do almost every time
>Patch full of optimizationsSo what did they end up breaking this time?
>>543827313They broke nerftrannies
>>543827247anon I solofagged warstrider seeds just fine with QC and thermites, either item trivialized them
has anyone tested silencers.Halo SMG got buffed less than other SMGs so you'd think they did, but there was nothing in the patch notes
>>543827313The balanceAny sound or UI mod
>>543827024k
>>543827229
>>543827019everyone that would use dynamite for its intended use cases is still going to just use thermite instead. which is an argument for thermite being nerfed too.
>>543826527if anything, the game is too hard still
I guess they had to select an extra special helldivertried descalator on bugs, pretty ok, would be very good if it had a speed loaderAMR on bots is back to being usable with ar strider nerf, however they still haven't unnerfed the ergo fucking swiggers
>soul thrumming bass line, incomprehensible cookie monster noises into violent thrash metal breakFUCKING WAR STRIDERS ON THE BRAINSWIGGER DEVS CIRCLING ROUND THE DRAINGUCCI KVETCHING FOR USURY GAINSBUFFING EVERY GUN THAT YOU MAINFUCKING WAR STRIDERS ON THE BRAIN>finger shredding palm bleeding guitar+drum instrumental as Alexus is sequentially roasted by pyrotechnics and surstromming waterboarded live
Why is the OST for helldivers so small? Even Darktide has multiple tracks.
>>543827519thermite doesn't blow up bile titan holes. dynamite now joins the ultimatum and the SPEAR as the only two weapons you can carry on your person that can close bile titan holes
>>543827426But they break every time something gets buffed
If bufftoddlers are more than pathetic whiners that want to force their terms through sheer pettiness, why do they begin to seethe uncontrollably once you state that you don't want it easy?
I've never seen a game community so out and proud of being whining shitters who beg and cry for buff after buff after buff as the helldivers community.
>>543827597AMR can stay with awful ergo now that it can 1-tap hulks.
>>543827772ok.
Who else is excited for the C4 backpack?
>>543827636and bug diver aren't goingg to give up their charger delete button when if they really cared about titan holes they already had ultimatum in the more expendable secondary slot. they aren't going to drop thermite on bot and quids when thermite still kills their spwners from the outside as well as being an AT option.
>>543827950Depends entirely on it's power and what it can blow up.I wonder how they'll balance it against mini nuke.
>>543827313Game balance got broken even more.
>>543827950>if it's goodUse it until I get bored of it>if it's shitPretend it's good but never use it
>>543827950not methe serbian swine won't let it have 40 df so it'll just be HE nades with extra steps
>>543828071Dynamite can also destroy fabricators from outside now since its demo force was raised to the necessary threshold.
>nerftrannies still seething 10 hours laterkek, utterly mindbroken, all they can do is screaming into the void
So are suppressors still broken?
>>543826234I accept your concession
>>543828286ESL-chama........
>>543828236point is that's not enough to get the thermite npcs off of thermite as long as thermite can also do that and kill tanks at the same time. that should be a dynamite-only thing
>>543828236how peculiar that an item that almost nobody cares for gets a buff like that while the solo silo, which people are trying their best to love, is still out here getting destroyed by a stiff breeze and failing to destroy the one thing it was designed to destroy
>knight is now an absolute vaporizer at close-range>light AP across the board finally has a viable benefit over medium APThere was a lot of bad decisions with the balance but I like these a LOT.
>>543825482They should spawn in numbers that are proportional to heavies and not large chaff if you don't want them to be a trivial threat, because if they spawn faster then they can reasonably be killed, we can just go back to Kitedivers which was such a fun meta.
>>543828573>finallymajor skill issue tbhdesu
>OMG THEY GAVE +5 DAMAGE TO THE LIGHT PENNERINOS EVEN THOUGH IT CHANGES NOTHING
Silobros, are we barack?
Do the retards here still want to deny that the SMGs are not just machine pistols, or did the latest video of them talking about how they literally do treat the SMGs like the machine pistols they are put that idiocy to rest now?
>>543828573mehthe best cqc weapon (Deadeye) is ap3 and a peak velocity infinite range monster as well
>>543828684>we can just go back to Kitedivers which was such a fun meta.shitters go back to kitedivers, shitters, anon. you could always deal with the shit that spawned if you weren't a shitter
>>543828776solo silo never left, now it's just retard proof
>>543825590we're down a manthis slot could be filled by (you)
>>543828776Yes, we are Obama
>>543828684>Kitedivers>funNot person on the dev team has ever recommended running away or kiting enemies as a fun nor viable strategy.
>>543828776>>543828901>>543829004it never began, shit can't 1 tap jammer then, shit still can't 1 tap jammer now. It's dogshit until swigger increase it's demolition force
>>543828759You don't understand, buffing the Lib Concussive from 65 to 75 and durable damage from 30 to 35 makes the game a complete cake walk.It's always the retard bufftroons that ruin the game for the ELITE gamers.
...where's the warbond? why am i sitting on 1k sc still?
>>543828776Can't they just use whatever payload ultimatum have and put them in this thing instead of conventional explosive and call it hellmissile or something?
>>543829084It's the logical conclusion in a game where only objectives matter. Killing enemies does nothing for the mission, so if they become giga hard you're better off not engaging with them at all
>>543828881well said but buffniggers would sooner choke to death on their egos than admit that their issues were primarily relating to their own abilities (lack thereof), not balance
>>543828869why do people say shit like this? the deadeye is gay and bad (average)
>those flying overseer nerfsWho even asked for this? You just shoot them and then they die. Only time they're a problem is when a pubby panics and drags 7 of them over to (You) which is countered by taking a knee, shooting them and then moving on.
>>543829372What does one have to do with the other? Do you kill enemies that you could easily ignore or run past? Why? Because they're so easy to kill? Please make sense.
>They buff shit weapons>Continue to use eruptor and x-bow as people lose their minds that the games balance is ruined
>>543829292>only 1kif you're not holding at least 10k you're ngmi
>they keep seethingWhen wil nerfbenchods learn? This is giving me a laugh of these bastards...
>make falseflag statement about your favorite stratagem/support weapon>bait nerftrannies into believing it's actually bad, it's reddit, and nobody wants to use it>be enjoying your crutch while having nerftrannies defending your favorite stratagem for free (they don't play the game anyway so they wouldn't know)Copyrighted idea, do not steal
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TQbMNN8XuENew automaton missions.
>>543829690k
>>543829696Dimitri please stop dragging a dozen patrols over to us and then running away when the re-direct to actual threats.
>>543829791>posting leaked contentAnd you faggots wonder why games dont feel special to you anymore.
>>543829757You'll see! Just two more weeks of seething in a Chinese carpentry community and AH will revert the 60 day patch!
>>543829959Say hi for me on the discord
lobby doko
So what are the nerf tranny approved stratagems? What are the buff tranny approved stratagems?
>>543830039>>543829959
>Not a single person complaining about fleshmob changesWere they really that bad? I rarely played squids anyway.
>>543830308When there were like 8 of the fuckers on the objective? Yes.
the only people who play honestly are level 1 players
Now that the dust has settled, what kind of buffs are we hoping for in the next patch?
>>543830462HE grenadesap4 -> ap5
>>543823636>>543823313>LCLC was garbage on release, ap3 with horrible dpsAC was the say all, be all on release minus metafag RG+ diaper
>>543830308They were a 6000 HP bulletsponge with no weak spots that spawns in packs of 3 and more. They were tedious more than anything.
>>543830308Bug MO and it's not obvious if they are easier now like it is with War Striders. Supposedely they are more durable now soooPersonally I didn't feel like it was necessary but w/e
>>543830462Flamethrower to have slightly longer range than its cousins
>>543830462the fucking HMG
>>543830462Mission success as soon as you dive into the mission.
>>543830308I mentioned that making their heads into actual weakpoints was a much needed change, but the changes to their HP and fire resist weren't needed at all. I'd also like them to make it so that breaking the legs drops them prone, so that they'd properly mirror Voteless.
>>543824551> This fanbase instead throws tantrums and review bombs the game to make the hardest modes achieveable for them. And for some strange reason, a lot "people" here defend this behavior. That's because most people are redditors troons.TRVKE
>continuously focusing a single enemy for an extended amout of time = easy not acksuhally a real problem bro its just tediooooous ahahahah>shooting the glowing spot a few times = epic skill this is now trvlly challenging vghhhWhy do people believe this? Do they forget it's not a 1v1 game and there is always something else out there to kill you?
So we are all agreement that bots are the ultimate baby faction now?
>>543830846>I'd also like them to make it so that breaking the legs drops them prone, so that they'd properly mirror Voteless.too much work
>>543830462i'm an empath so I'm asking for none, if we buff the guns any further, the nerfsisters will cease to exist after chimping out nonstop for days and eventually die of a heart attack
>>543830462blitzerarc throwerlaser cannon
>>543823372Haven't tested it. How's the new patch?
>>543830969I know this is bait, but the simple reason is that the access to those weakspots is gaited in certain ways. Making each encounter unique and add more depth based on how your positioning and aiming performs. Bulletsponge is just tedium.
>these are the people you agree with on balancing design of the gameYou don't even quality as sentient.
>>543831165>qualitySaar...
>muh bullet spongeAnything that takes longer than an attosecond to kill in this game is considered a bullet sponge by the hylics.
>>543831165>nerftroon is a redditorWho could've seen this coming
>>543831325k
>>543824115>died once in bufftoddlers difficulty>"game 2ez"BWHAHAHAHAHA
>>543830846I wish they'd make fleshmobs into big voteless and convert half of their main HP into bleedout HP. this would also have the side effect of making it so popping all their heads puts them in a bleedout state since enough damage gets passed through.
>>543830462variable buffs. either add medium and heavy pen, or improve the erg.
>>543830993Even as someone who thinks they went too far in the wrong direction with War Striders and the AMR killing Hulks in one shot, I know for a fact that if these Swiggers finally figure out how to properly tune the difficulty outside of blind buffs, nerffailures will be there cackling like goblins about how right they were all along. I could not care less about nerfniggers killing themselves simply because they annoy me.
>>543831130But it was/is unique. Squids don't have another enemy like this. There is nothing deep and unique about the glowing spot, that's every other enemy in the game. >tediumCope.
>the ABRL is so powerful it remains untouched
>>543831410k
>>543826002Bigger!
>>543831521>it was uniqueTheres a reason it was unique, because it was bad design.
>giant meatball whose main attack is running at you>shooting the legs does nothing
>>543831551Sorry anon, you can only claim the game is 2ez if you are actually good at it.
>>543829791Actually looks cool af. Definitely a 100% fail rate for pubbies because if you can't even call in more ammo, you're absolutely gigafucked when the fighting starts. So assuming you're playing with an actual team, it's going to be >pick quasar and LC >scythe, DE sickle, Sickle, and Talon... Hmm this might actually take some thought. You can't call anything else down so what else do you pick? Mech? Any other consumable strats feel kinda pointless because they're stuck at the initial call in site. Backpacks for sure, probably gun dogs... Hm. Anyway>drop in>call your shit in >avoid patrols>get to the big bases and pick off all the troopers with coordinated shots >assume that shooting doesn't just automatically trigger alarms >mop up the other units >destroy fabs and do objectives>repeat>extractYeah I dunno about this one chief. It sounds pretty cool in theory but in practice the stealth system isn't going to work and you're just going to end up fighting endless waves of bots, right? With no reds or greens. I mean it'd be fun if you had ammo but without even being able to call in ammo, your fighting loadout for D10 is gonna be VERY limited.
>>543831505k
>>543830308who would complain about Fleshmobs, an enemy made entirely out of torturously fused individually destructible heads and torsos that don't actually do any bonus damage to main or act as a collectively fatal HP pool, being made to have those heads and torsos now do bonus damage that is collectively fatal to main HP? That'd be like complaining about War Strider eyes being fatally damageable like Hulk and Factory Strider eyes or having the modeled rear radiators be weak points like the rear radiators on Hulks and Tanks.
>>543831521>"I HATE KIDNEY STONES SO MUCH THIS HURTS WORSE THAN DEATH!">"BUT SAAAR! ITS UNIQUE!!!!"Thats how you sound
now that AMR is encroaching on things the Railgun did i wouldnt be opposed to a better scope on the RG at this point.
>>543831698>>543831763k
>>543831387Redditors are all bufftroons like you.
>>543831426>Voteless can be killed easily with headshots, slowly with bodyshots, or dropped prone with legshots.>Fleshmobs can only be killed slowly with bodyshots, headshots don't deal extra damage and legshots don't do anything at all.I've always felt like the literal blob of mutants was supposed to be a giant version of the mutant, and that they missed the mark by not capitalizing on that.
>>543831905Keep projecting nerftroon
>>543831596No, it was unique because there isn't another fast tanky light armor thing that steals your attention the same way. No one has figured out why it's bad yet besides "it's not like the other ones".>>543831763It's a video game enemy not kidney stone.
>>543831387We already tried telling the nerfnigger to go spout his bullshit on reddit so that AH actually sees his nonsense, to which he replied with "I already do :)"
>>543832003>It's a video game enemy not kidney stone.
>>543830308I just one-shot them with the airburst anyway.
>Fleshmob was too bulletspongeyThese fucking retards consider anything that can't be one tapped by an AMR to be bullet sponges. Half a tube of the WASP launcher can reliably kill a fleshmob, and it's lock on fire and forget to boot. One single WASP rocket killed elevated overseers.
>>543774919>>543775814you don't play the gameplasma punisher change was strictly a buff
>>543832294k
>>543832134An embarassing and hysterical one. Should've just said that it's like you are being hecking holocausted again, why not
I can't imagine being a nerf tranny, I'd kill myself after taking this many Ls and having to experience humiliation ritual every time I open my mouth
>>543832294Say hi for me on the discord. It's funny seeing you guys rush out like this
>>543832294Why are cat posters always the biggest retards?
>>543825428gucci won't/can't play the funny lobby because he actually tried to report the host for SC spawning through Arrowhead's site portal, which probably went straight into the shredder with every other part of their report system being completely mothballed, and did this because he's a Jewish turbo ultra nigger and a traitor to his fellow Helldivers
>>543829372This is why they need to create more objectives where you HAVE to engage the enemies instead of abusing how easily kited they are. But you're have niggers say that kiting is the problem, instead of the fact that there is no actual reason to actually fight the enemies when the objectives don't require it.
>>543832392I accept your concession
>>543829791>>543831710Yeah the more I think about this the less enthused I am. I actually advocated for limited reinforcements and limited stratagem "behind enemy lines" missions a while back and I still like the idea. But not having access to reds and greens at all doesn't actually sound like fun. It works in bug caves because you're squished into corridors and it's not the entire mission. You can also call in ammo and greens on most of the objective sites. My idea of a commando mission would be to have a severely crunched time limit, limited capacity on all red and green strats, and reduced reinforcement budget. Get in, get out, you only have limited support but it does exist. Guess we'll see what the swedes land on. If cave bugs weren't broken as fuck in release they were actually a lot of fun and diving on Oshaune is actually dope now. I guess I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm glad they're experimenting with more difficult missions though.
>>543831975You don't even know what that word means, sub 90IQ drone.
>>543832452k
>>543832521What concession? Retard.
>>543831048meh
>"If you didnt like fleshmobs then bring the airbust!">"Why? Does it hit a secret weakpoint?">No, it just does a lot of damage!"They were so close to understanding the issue
I like the new update on illuminate but I'm not a huge fan of the beam things on the LeviathansI never fought them without them but I think that they track too fast it feels like
>>543832548Big words for a reddit nerftroon trying to call other people redditors
>>543832541It really does just come down to if they can unfuck stealth mechanics, in my opinion, which I don't really have faith in them to succeed at. Worst case scenario I try the missions 3 or 4 times and I don't touch them again. But yeah, like you I appreciate any attempt they make to spice things up.
>>543831710Sounds like way too much work. Redditors and /hdg/ are gonna scream to get it changed.
>>543824238Retards who didnt do their job either getting forced to do their job or getting replaced, that's what.>made the game stop rendering a lot of stuff that you dont see anyway, especially buildings and clutter that wasnt even within your vision in the cities>make gamed use low res texture and low detail model more often on far away things>"optimize" enemy AI to save CPU cycles>removed a lot of particle effects and made them either calculate in a simpler way or removing them altogether and replacing them with GPU bound ways to render
>>543832654>>543832521
At least you got the last (you), bravo
>>543823789If anything my sound is more consistently fucked than before.
>big words>basic English90iQ was too generous for you.
Why don't nerf trannies just go play a different game? Why do they still decided to stick around us buffChads like battered wives? I know most of them are trannies with humiliation fetish but I don't think that's the entire story.
>>543832294every enemy needs to be tuned such that my preferred loadout can rape absolutely everything, enabling me to never change, never unselect the retard proof incendiary AR, always click the same four stratagems 3000 more missionsdoing this ensures loadout variety and fun
>>543832489It's absolutely hilarious how desperately and zealously he defends Arrowhead only to get completely ignored, forced to accept that their entire team consists of the laziest fucking swiggers that refuse to do their job and cater to literally everyone other than him.Then he turns around and blames everyone other than Arrowhead for ruining the game as if it wasn't Arrowhead that's putting these changes through.It's as if it's literally in his nature to be a spineless bootlicker and it's hilariously pitiful.
543832931I already accepted it, bro. You dont need to keep submitting it
>>543832541Redditors and /hdg/ would literally die if they had to play a mission like that. Try to be more inclusive to the community when brain storming these ideas.
>>543832683Seems like a very valid strategy and the bufftroon should just eat shit desu
>>543832541>>543833210>Yeah the more I think about this the less enthused I am. I actually advocated for limited reinforcements and limited stratagem "behind enemy lines"They literally do that now and you cry and bitch about it and refuse to play it
>nerftroon redditors projecting even harder after outing themselvesKek
>>543833046>never unselect the retard proof incendiary AR, always click the same four stratagems 3000 more missionsSounds like the RR meta.
>>543832003>No one has figured out why it's bad yet besides "it's not like the other ones".tedius and braindead. You even started this entire argument off based off this.
>>543833242Its so wild how despite being spoonfed for months you still dont get it.How would you feel if you didnt use airburst?
>>543833296Those temporary nerfs never last long, anon. Not are they serious enough to bring any difficulty to the game.
So is the De Escalator still shit?
>>543833457But I do use airburst?
>>543833457nta but still good because I'd be on autocannonnow you want to say every weapon should be viable but doing that would make the game too easy and boring, oh wait, that's right
>>543833441>tediusAKA "it killed me">braindeadHow? Compared to what?
>>543833512>Not Nor*
SAAAAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE BUFFS MADARCHOD BLOODY BASTERDS I WILL FUCK YOUR ASS
>>543833512And yet you people still dont play it.
>>543833457I'd be on autocannon or any of the machine guns or flamer or w/e and I'd be shooting itWhat's your point retard??
>>543833457>How would you feel if you didnt use airburst?Probably like bringing the AC, or Gas, or Fire. Or maybe I'd bring the Stalwart.
>>543833726Well yeah, redditors and /hdg/ want a party game or power fantasy. They want ZERO challenge of any kind.
>>543833704>>543832392Is this a fucking fed trying to get something out of someone? Hes being incredibly specific.
I'd be fine with it all if we could expect d11-15 to release eventually but it might never come to that
>>543833874It's just the usual melty from your typical bufftroon. It might even be a malfunctioning bot. Who knows.
>>543833809Pop quiz:Youre up against a factory strider. What weapon do you bring?>Airburst>RR>Sterilizer
>>543833871And other lies redditor nerftroons tell themselves when their axe wound hurts again
>>543833726>Extract times increased by 40%Should be 40% more enemies or patrols during extraction.>Eagle Rearm times increased by 30%Should just be a an increased cooldown on all red strats instead of only Eagles for some reason. It's not lowering your ability to take offensive strats, it's just telling you that you can't pick Eagles specifically.>Ammo from pickups decreased by 50%This is fine, just add the fact that Resupply counts as an ammo pickup to the modifier description.
>>543834004Will never happen. Redditors and /hdg/ would suffer a MEGA melty of apocalyptic proportions.
>>543833871>Challenge is when I just get nerfs
>>543834046If I can't bring the Stalwart to kill a factory strider and a Lib Carbine as a backup then it's a SHIT GAME!
>>543834092>>543834197What tranime mods do you use for your diver? Don't be shy, show us a pic.
>>543834195I think you're right. Our resident buffgroid is melting down to the Earth's core right now just from being told not everyone has to share his ill conceived opinions. Imagine a difficulty tier that would just downright filter him.
>>543833874the first is me, the second looks to be gucci projecting his own pogrom coded hereditary trauma, which is really good corroborating evidence
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243794089688/76561199016178993D10 Lobby Votes
>>543833556LOL
>>543834046the ABRL can actually snip off the 2 miniguns on their chin and you can casually walk under them and chuck a few thermites to their underbelly
>>543823372>>543823636>>543823774>>543825330>>543832541>>543834384I am once again asking for a folder link to all these drawings
>>543834046That's a retarded hypothetical, If I am up against a factory strider then I already dropped and thus have something on me. I don't get to decide.
>>543834486https://mega.nz/folder/RzFkBLiI#Gk7W86ndTtoLa4G-uTdGrA
>>5438344202/4
>>543834380Thats another concession accepted. :)
>>543834420ERP lobby?
>>543834484but the chinguns are immune to explosivesare you telling lies?
>>543833556>>543833615>>543833809>>543833864>all these third worlders that didn't pass the nigger testfleshpound defenders confirmed shitskins
>>543834571don't open this link it makes mustard gas
>>5438344203/4
>>543834571Thank CHU
>>543834506>He wont pick because he knows where Im going with thisYep *dusts off hands* its nice when your opponent knows when hes outmatched.Dont worry partner, I accept that concession of yours.
>>543834643>He didn't deny using said modsKek! Bufftroons are so predictable.
>>543834004>>543834195i just flat out don't think it's possiblethis game is a fuckin mess and it's at it's limits with the enemies we have rneven now you can tell that certain enemies get lobotomized on higher difficulties just so this hog of a game can run at allA D11-15 would have to be a damage number change since if these hordes get any larger you'll probably just be able to walk past all of the enemies since they'd be so braindead to compensate
I think it's a bit of a fruitless effort to pursue loadout variety in a game where peppering it with bullets and making it explode is the soundest strategy in 100% of all cases.
>>543834809I actually don't. This makes no sense in the context of the game, so why should I care? You could just state what you think but it likely doesn't make sense in the first place.
>>543834571dolphin pron
Haven't played in over year. Why is everyone calling HD2 a party game now?
>>543834813>He randomly tries to shift the topic to using mods because he knows he got btfo'dWere witnessing an act of desperation in real time. Keep going. I need to record all this.
>>543834804You're welcome fren
You could drop the number of difficulties to 5, with 4 being the current d10, and it would work just fine. Most of the difficulties we have right now are literally just bloat.
>>543834420FVLL
>>543835010>Prattles on about his ax wound or something>Accuses me of shifting the discussionDelusional buffgroid.
>>543834967Answer the question and I'll tell you where Im going with it.
the most important reason why a game like this should be hard as balls is that it filters rage monkeys with bad/nonexistent anger management
>>543834664How did they fail the "nigger test"? All the answers to his retarded attempt at an argument make sense.
>>543835159 Yes, yes. Very interesting. Keep going.
>>543835328I accept your concession
>>543834976Just our resident shitposter and his discord retards doing some raiding after the latest patch buffed some stuff
>>543835231>He thinks he will be "the chosen one" and not get filteredYou sound like those fat guys that constantly go on how they'd beat people in a fight or survive a zombie apocalypse
>>543835175I'd get the sterilizer because I am an epic memelord ahahah ohhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhh *fucks your mother's busted pussy* yeaaaaaaaaah *pulls out and cums on your face*
>>543835430>Playing it down like there isn't some truth to it.I spend more time dicking around with the squad then actually fighting now.
>>543835231I'm a rage monkey and managed to not get filtered by For Honor despite it, so I think I'd be fine
>>543835376Hmm yes. Very facinating. Dont fizzle out now!
>>543835308its best they don't know so they can't fake an answer
>>543833550Supposedly it got its damage doubled?
>people are still arguing about balance and difficulties and spawn rates after this long and all those things are in constant flux>for a non competitive gameand this is why despite the game being good on paper I fucking hate it and want my money back and have felt that way since week one.
>>543833550naw, it's OP
>>543833550you cant kill bile titans with 3 headshots like before but besides that its pretty solid, worth taking over gl if you dont give a shit about blowing up bug holes
>>543834664>fleshpound faggot is backstop using lingo from a dead franchise
Can somebody please ban him? He's making my anxiety flare up really badly. This was supposed to be a safe space for chill dad divers...
>>543835809gucci doesn't count as people, he's local fauna
>>543830308My only issue was with them scaling buildings or geometry with instant transmission to fuck your ass.
>>543835883never left, well actually I left for a month cause the game had zero content or updates.
>>543835582You always did that
>>543835913you're all giant goddamn retards I've been here for all of five minutes and that's already self evident.
>>543835486I'm mediocre, but relative to the bufftroons screeching ITT, I'm pretty much a god.
>>543835708The meme is that they say "but I ate the breakfast", however none of replies are anything like this, besides the first which is obviously a shitpost playing into it. You are the nigger here.
>>543835870>worth taking over gl if you dont give a shit about blowing up bug holesbut why? the GL still does its job better
>>543835905Falseflag harder nerfnigger
>>543836106Oh, youre the "well i think im pretty good" faggots but in reality you have a massive fucking ego and think youre a god compared to everyone.I've seen your kind before. You would 100% get filtered.
>>543835870>you cant kill bile titans with 3 headshots like beforewhat is it right now then?
>>543836281Don't bother tier as far as titans go.
There is something extremely funny about being in a general where the people playing the game and the people "discussing" the game are so obviously separated
>>543836231Be nice. Hes trying his best.
>>543836068>it took him 5 minutesim just here for lobbies desu if hdg is anything its a place i can enjoy playing with people i fucking hate this thread though outside the lobbies
>>543836281uh, 6 maybe? if someone nails a bile titan in the side with any kind of quasar/rr shot you can usually just dump shots into them and that finishes it.
Somebody please ban him. His trolling is bringing back severe trauma. I thought this was supposed to be a cool community without any toxic elitists...
>>543836252No, like I said, I'm mediocre. Slightly below it even. Frankly I shouldn't be able to breeze through d10 on my lonesome. I'm way too sloppy. And yet I can make it through. Bufftrannies can't, which means they're a shade above completely useless at best.
>>543836408This. I just come here for lobbies and to steal images now.
Why do nerftrannies seethe so hard at the idea of every gun being useful?
Why do bufftrannies seethe at the idea of hard modes actually being hard?
>>543836542>"I want harder content that I cant play"You aint foolin' anyone.
>>543836408the whole game sucks. listening to the community is dumb. having a discord or a reddit is dumb. generals are dumb. meta for a single player game is fucking dumb. you're all DUMB for playing this dumb SHIT. imagine making a game that mostly works and then just not fucking with it unless it winds up being completely busted. actually impossible!
>>543836735Shut up, nerftranny.
>>543836572Because they don't play the game
For me it's impact incendiary
Why does the nerftrannies idea of hard = "only 5 weapons are usefulHow exactly is that any different from other guns being good?
>>543836874the fuck does that even mean? I don't know your made up internet retard language. kill yourself.
>>543836542>No you don't get it, I'm like totally below average, it just happens that everyone other than me is just SO much worse than me. I'm totally not bragging guys, can't you see how humble I am?Hebrew behavior
>>543836714Their ego prevents them from just lowering the difficulty or playing better.
>>543836572makes the guns too samey while also necessitating constant power creep on enemiesattempting to make all guns viable is a misguided, the real solution would be to remove non-competitivegunsan interesting game with 3 viable weapons is worth more than a pure dogshit game with 300 weaons
>>543837027>everyone other than meNah, just you. You know who you are.
>>543836714Because nerftroons idea of a higher difficulty is to make everything require an RR to kill like load out checks are the peak of difficulty
>>543837046>makes the guns too sameyAh yes, the Recoiless Rifle is totally the same as the AMR.
>>543837001Why is bufftoddlers' idea of fun = zero challenge and curb stomping enemies like baby seals? If they want to play a party game then they can just go play Mario party.
>>543837274Why is the nerftrannies' idea of "fun" = "only this gun is useful, therefore that means the game is hard"Again how would this be any different than all guns being useful?
Never played the game but have 4k hours in Warframe. Saw that a new update came out and wanted to hear it from the boys if this game is worth sinking time into.
>>543837231 Yes thank God literally single bot enemy is a complete non threat now. So much fun! So heckin' epic! Because everyone knows the only defining aspect of difficulty in this game is just one support weapon and nothing else.
>>543837001The nerftranny doesn't want any weapon to be useful, he wants everything to be so shit, it takes everyone the same TTK to kill a heavy enemy than it takes to kill a tank in L4D because that's difficulty I guess (doesn't own the game)
>Shit weapons get +5 damage>People unironically cry and doompost that its over>Meanwhile explosive primaries are still tiers above them
>>543837237we didn't need 8 and a half liberatorswe didn't need an SMG category when liberator is a perfect close quarter bullet hose alreadythe existence of redundant guns diminishes the gamesome fags are gonna make them their preference for retarded sentimental reasons only to whine incessantly when finding out others get more mileage out of their choicespray tell what value the game would lose if libconc got removed right now
>>543837471Bro, one tapping hulks with the AMR is so friggin epic!
>>543837481Probably. I may not like the direction the devs have been taking the game and I think it's frankly ridiculous that they've allowed the playability issues to rack up to the degree they have but I'd be lying if I told you I regretted ever getting it.
>>543837481nerftranny seethe dilate projecting meltdown kys ywnbaw
>>543837662>the existence of redundant guns diminishes the gameYes, its much better if only one gun is useful and the rest are bad. Clearly thats more healthy for the game!
>>543837481The developers are garbage, and the gamestate is always in a flux between horrible and passable despite the fact that the foundations are really fucking fun. Grab it on sale and wait for it to get better, refund it if it gets worse, or just shrug it off and try it yourself.
>>543837481This general is full of contrarians and autists, much like the entirety of 4chan. It's 100% worth it especially with this latest update that fixes a ton of performance and stability issues for most people. You have a lot of fun ahead of you until you get to the point where you're like us and bicker about the game being dadgamer'd or whatever.
>>543836453it was 6 before the buff
>>543837481Not worth it. It's too easy. Not fun at all.>>543837662KYS. More guns is always better.
I dont want my gun to be burst fire or single shot I want fully automatic for in a pinch
>>543837695>"One tapping things is bad!">"BUT NOT LIKE THAT!"Thats how you sound.
Why do i get the feeling all the nerftrannies are actually RR trannies seething that theyre getting slowly dethroned?
>>543837951Please tell me you're pretending to be retarded, right?
>>543837780If the reward for such a situation is that a squad actually needs to build case appropriate loadouts and remain at max focus during the mission then yeah, it would still be preferable to the 97% win rate situation we have now
>>543838147>Everyone being forced to build around the meta is good, actuallyGo play darktide if you love meta so fucking much.
>Pre patch >have to dump 9 AC rounds into the war strider leg for an easy kill >Post patch>have to dump 6 AC rounds into the very top of the head for an easy killSure is somethin to be getting this worked up over fuck all.
I am a proud, BIPOC trans individual and I fully support the new patch.
>>543832541>But not having access to reds and greens at all doesn't actually sound like fun.Wrong. Because blues are literally the most fun stratagems in the game. Reds and Greens are 9:1 ratio of "this plays the game for you" stratagems.
>>543837662>Whines about redundancy>Does he complain about how the Libpen could just be an AP3 ammo option for the base Lib?>No, he complains about the crowd stagger concussive gun that could be a unique, stand out option with some tweaksPeople like you shouldn't be allowed to post.
>>543838147>one gun is good and he rest is bad>so the squad needs to build case appropriate loadouts>and surely it won't end up with all 4 players taking the exact same good gunWow you're actually retarded and delusional
>>543838137Please tell me where Im wrong.
>Forces meta builds>Limits build variety>Need to build around the situation>Has nerfed player power>Nobody here wants to play itWe all know the reason. You people constantly talk shit but you refuse to play the game that literally has everything you want because you would get filtered so hard.
>>543838454You're right. Next patch should allow us to tap hulk eyes with the liberator. That would be fair, balanced, and heckin' epic! Thank you for showing the error of my ways.
>>543838339Yeah but they're also part of what makes this game different and feel unique. Shooting stuff yourself, I agree, is rewarding. But not being able to panic call in a strafing run or air strike, or see a fuckyuge bot drop and queue up your 380 makes it not feel as much like Helldivers. This game is at its best when you're completely overwhelmed, reds are firing off left and right, and you're just completely fucking engulfed in explosions and gunfire.
>>543837658for every 3 'people', there's one guy actually making those posts
>>543838454NTA, but being able to one shot an enemy with a single shot backpack fed launcher with a slow stationary reload isn't the same as being able to one shot an enemy with a multiple shot per mag backpackless rifle with a mobile reload and far more reserve ammo.Obviously there's the difference with having to aim for weakpoints with the AMR, but that really wasn't what you were arguing.>>543838678Retard.
>>543838647Entirely different game. You should feel bad for making such a dumb post.
>>5438378464-5go test it and report back
>>543838683>but they're also part of what makes this game different and feel uniqueNot really. Reds are just Magicka's "giant spells that can teamkill because lmao teamkills XD", which is another Arrowhead game already. They're rehashed content from over almost two decades ago. And greens are mostly just TF2 sentries with more teamkilling involved.
>>543838678I'll say it again though I'm NTA>precision long range literal anti materiel sniper rifle >tiny mag size>dogshit ergonomics and recoil>basically unused and power crept by AC>it gets a niche by being able to 1-tap a weakpoint that it previously had to 2-tap>other support weapons can do the same thing, notably the Railgun>you proceed to lose your fucking mind I don't get it.
i have 3k hours in warframe, ask me if i give a fuck about 'challenge' in my PVE GAAS slop.
>>543838339The Stratagem system is one of the few things that make Helldivers unique. Calling in air and naval support is a baked in part of the game, and even then you still have to contend with proper positioning and resource management to utilize it best.
>>543838746Why are you wasting your time explaining something so obvious to a buffgroid? They will never admit they were wrong.
>>543838647It's Swede slop with gacha systems, if anything it makes HD2 look good
>>543838647It doesn't have good weapons, good looks, funny stratagems and both melee and shooting feels like shit, not to mention the setting is just cringe.If I wanted a game that's just difficult I'd be playing some speedrunner game or someshit.
>Only one weapon can one shot hulks and forces everyone to use it>"This is good design!" - Nerftranny>All Anti-Tank weapons can now one shot Hulks>"NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE GAME IS RUINED!!!!!" - NerftrannyIf your idea of "hard" = limited build variety than youre completely fucking stupid and your opinion is invalid.
>>543838678>reverts to strawmanning when btforetard
>>543838979Your post is simply explaining why our weapons are too strong and the enemies are too weak.
>>543839000Don't fucking reply to me nerfnigger.
>>543838994Difficulty is damage attenuation on everything so you spend 10 minutes mindlessly shooting at a boss and falling asleep in the process :D
>>543839082>gacha systems,You dont play the game>Swede slopDo you know what helldivers 2 devs are?>>543839093Uh-huh. Sure bro.
>>543838979It further cucks an already cucked enemy which is bad. Should've just been the ammo increase so that running it without supply pack doesn't feel like a punishment, maybe give it old ergo.
>>543839104>>543839142I just don't think a heavy unit should be turned into weak chaff. But you troons are so adamant that nothing in this game is allowed to be a threat to the players. Really sad.
>>543838292its 3 well aimed shots but if 6 mag dumped shots works for you go off.
>>543838994do you give a fuck about challenge in your PVE GAAS slop?
>>543839319>I just don't thinkshocker
>>543839319>But you troons are so adamant that nothing in this game is allowed to be a threat to the players.>"Threatening enemies is when theres a hard meta"
>>543839104No one was forced to use anything because it one shot hulks.
>>543839319Don't you ever get tired of tearing down strawmen and arguing in bad faith?
>>543839450Epic post! Take my gold kind stranger!
>400 posts>2 lobbies
>>543839276Go back to Darktide general. Wait, you can't because the game has 10 players and 9 of them are third worlders.
>>543825794Ah fuck that kinda unnerves me, Oshaune kicked my ass. I am excited for commando mode though.
Where were (You) when based Arrowhead turned nerftrannies into the raped?
>>543839450>>543839492>>543839526Just admit you want the game to be easy. Why is that so hard for you guys? Just admit it. Being honest feels really good. Give it a shot.
Easier game. Lower stakes game. Unfun movie game
>>543821493ggs bros. fun games!
>>543839702>"A hard game is when everyone uses the same weapon that trivializes enemies!"
>>543839319>>543839565>>543839702The fact you have no idea how obvious it is that you're from Reddit is insane to me.
>>543839848Strawman. Just admit it. Just be honest for once.
>>5438397723xc3ll3nt gam3s!
>>543839920Im not misrepresenting your argument when thats what youre advocating for
How many Swedish vacations would it take to get functioning bipods
>>543839904How do you know that? Is there something you want to tell us, anon?
>>>543821275Would you rather they rise from the grave instead?
is it "have the same circular logic shitposts for 2 months" time again
>>543840114What the fuck
Alexus, it's like 4am in Sweden right now and you've been pissing and shitting your pants all night! You still have work (lol) soon! Go to sleep!
>>543839618Game saving update, we are back, now it's much more fun, etcPeople who constantly ask for buffs will do anything but play the game
>>543840203Bad faith receives bad faith. Pro buff arguments have been dishonest since day one.
>>543840278I already played like 5 hours of the patch today and I'm exhausted. No one would ever have enough time to argue like this and play the game
>>543839151>>543839303Hulks spawn in high enough numbers to be considered a relatively normal enemy. Theres only so many solutions and I don't think any of them are particularly good. >buff the slot so it takes 3-4 shotsJust makes AT that much more meta against them. With the rate they spawn at this reinforces an AT meta. >reduce spawns and make it an elite enemy again So it's now just a different tank. Even if you make it a full AT check and re-buff it to require 2 AT shots and no slot, all you've done is move it up a tier and again, reinforce AT meta. Berserker hulks become pre-nerf chargers and regular hulks just become tanks. I think this is boring. >leave the slot mechanic but still make it take 2 AT shotsToo many slot shots and you make it a tank. Too few and nobody is going to use AT on it. I think this is probably the best option because it at least makes AP4 the optimal strat to use against them and rewards precision, or you have to waste 2 AT shots on it. But then it becomes an "annoying" enemy and you can't spawn too many of them. Genuinely as they are I think they're in a decent spot. They're cool enemies and amongst a crowd they're a threat you can't just take down with a primary (senator I guess), and they force you to either whip out an AT round or get precise with an AP4 weapon. What would you to them?
>>543840432No one cares about you, faggotWhen the game was "hard" and "broken" we had at least 3 lobbies active at all times
>>543839373nah, mainly just satisfying gameplay; and if possible, id prefer to make meaningful decisions in between missions (like my builds, etc.) thank u for asking
D10 whateversteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243797293343/76561197999417031haven't played in a whiles because swedes are trash
>>543840114
>>543839772>jump-scaring your teammates so with dynamite their heart skips a beat so hard it causes your whole PC to skip as well
>>543838994I haven't played Warframe in years. How's Inaros after his rework or whatever they did for him? I used to like playing him.
>>543834420steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243797465496/76561199016178993NEW OP, 3/4 Bugs
>>543840739Wait a few minutes
>Ohdough streaming Helldivers 2 again>Hes already bitching and moaningHoly fuck this guy must have a miserable life.
>>543841068The whining will not stop until every gun can shoot Hellbombs and all enemies fold to a few Peacemaker rounds
>>543841252>every gun shooting hellbombsThat would be fun actually.
>>543841068look at the views on his videos, anytime he bitches he gets views when he isnt its fucking dogshit views. hes in the rageclick cycle to keep up his channel now
>>543841252every time you post this is gets closer to reality. funny how that works
>>543840739>failed>>543840927>failed
>>543840927FVLL
>>543841068of course he cane back to the cash cow, he has to shill his shitty coin made of chinesium somehow
>dynamite>creates a far-reaching incendiary blast ideal for crowd control against smaller enemies>"IT SHOULD INSTAKILL HIVE LORDS AND DESTROY HELLBOMB OBJECTIVES"
>>543839772ggs, was funfunfunf>>543839984noooo
>>543840925never (ever) even tried him
>>543841734is Nidus still quad S+ tier?
The game is FIXED stop COMPLAINING NOW!!!!!!!!!!
>>543841293Yeah I swear I don't remember him bitching about stuff this much earlier on.
>>543841616Poor Gucci, screaming into the void as usual.
>>543841924>Not even in the centerI cannot comprehend the jeet mind.
>>543841952I'm not that troonNow explain why a literal CC grenade should be a better thermite for no reason
>>543841903unless he's very recently changes, he's fallen off more than most. him, gara and a few others just didn't do well in a lot of the latest stuffthey've been pretty good about updating frames lately-ish though
>>543840739bro booted the og "host" on accident
>>543840739wow thanks guys
>>543842115we dont allow racists in our games
>>543841924>>543842001that's the UK
>>543842115FUCK my bad just re-host?
>"we are not gonna nerf the coyote">swiggers proceed to nerf the coyote
rehosting no retards allowedD10steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243798178558/76561197999417031
>>543842348just via fire nerf or?
>>543841924>fixedthey stealth nerfed everythinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTuya0p_xHI
>>543842524>no retards allowedholy shit it was true
>>543842115Discordtrannies deserve the rope.
>>543842681Nothing was nerfed you are a DOOMSISSY!!!!!!!!!!
>>543842073damn. I stopped a little after Oberon Prime and he was still really fuggin good then. I reinstalled a couple years ago and immediately dropped it again when I saw they nerfed Ember's 4 into the dirt.
>>543842679yup, affects coyote with 1 more bullet to set of fire, no real change for other weapons, except reduced fire dmg multiplier
>>543842681>swedes nerfing things while lying to youit's the same story since launch, bud
>>5438425242/4
>>543842848>no real change for other weaponsboth IB and Scythe just barely set things on fire now
statusbros... why do they hate us?
>>5438425243/4
>>543830308Didn't care>t.ABRLfaggort
>>543842779embers 4 is still bad (i think), but they've been doing a pretty good job w/ the game overall. i dont play much-- just like every other major update for a couple weeks, but you'd probably be impressed if you can jump into any of the latest stuff. or it shouldnt take long to get there if you cant
>>543843035they changed the threshold for getting set on fire on more than basic warriors, bile spewers, brood commanders and devastators?
>>543842681dude why is this guy so fucking negative about everythinghe’s literally your typical /hdg/ doomfag
>>543830308idk they still die just fine to WASP/ABRL/GL
when should i use burst fire on the AC?
>>543843671Whenever u have to go thru armored plating i.e AP for bots most of the time and Flak for squids because they're more fleshy than armored
Arrowhead said the Coyote was left alone and not nerfed so that's that.
>>543843671When you don’t bring it because it sucks i just had a whole lobby of AC faggots and they died so many times we didn’t even extract.
Support weaponCooldown: 454 seconds 7 charges (1 in hand+6 in backpack)AP7Damage: 2000Durable damage: 2000Demo strength: 30 (lol)Inner Radius: 3 metersOuter Radius: 7 metersStagger radius: 8 metersCool or not, call it /hdg/.
>>543843454yes, before this update when they """fixed""" DoT, they just finished the nerf
>>543843891>30>not even 40bros...
>>543843885okay, maybe so... but RR and blink pack is cheating fyi
>>543844024I don’t like backpack weps.
>>543843891even more of a meme than the silo
Now that warstriders have two weakpoints can they be made vaguely threatening with actual mobility, accuracy, and reaction time?
>>543843891>a device essentially invented for demolition>30
>>543844142go ask custom bot anon and see if he can also tweak those variables aside from giving them other weapons
CURSE YOU BUFFCHADS!!!!CURSE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>543840435hulks literally have a gigantic unarmored weakspot on the back just have some fucking TEAMWORK
I took a break after Squid Shitties. Been back like a month and I have yet to see a single person using the variable. Is it that bad?
>>543843891Worse dynamite.
>>543844303But I was told that Hulks having unarmored weakpoints was bad game design
>>543843891>AP7
>>543844313Terrible ergo means a pretty strict peak physique tax if you wanna actually have fun with it.
>>543843891Wait isn't this thing actually gonna be kinda good it's like 8 instant thermites
>>543844313The volleygun? It rules.>>543844398Were you actually told that or were you told that warstriders also having a huge unarmored weakspot was bad because it's redundant.
>>543843891>Cool or not>demo:30lol indeed
>Ohdough stream>Incessant bitching and moaning>Still complaining about elevated overseers>insufferably smug attitude>Abuses the supply pack bug nonstop>Keeps trying to coin reddit-tier slang for enemeis>Kino Japanese streamer>Doesnt complain>Laughs at what happens>Different loadout>Doesnt abuse the supply pack bug
>>543844414The only way to do 100% damage to something is to beat their Armor by 1. An AP7 weapon is a weapon that deals 100% damage to AP6 Armor.
>>543844598enlighten me on this supply pack bug
>>543844414So it can 2-shot command bunkers I guess.>>543844516Yeah but it takes up both your support weapon and backpack slot. Thermites don't, which is the main reason why they're so strong.
>>543844598What's the bug? I don't use the supply pack
>>543844658Lower the difficulty
>>543844663yeah i thought about it for literally 5 seconds and came to the conclusion that just taking grenade armor and thermites is way better or hell just supply pack and thermites in other words, not cool
>>543844574The former.
>>543844598Posted it again award
>>543844627
>>543844797That's insane then.
>>543844837Did I hurt your feelings? Im sorry.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243797293343/76561198385130096d10 whatever2/4
>>543844887Seems good to me.
Supply pack is overpowered even without the bug. Should have the same restriction as the stim pistol and be unable to supply yourself
>>543845071This kills the solotranny
>>543844663>>543844780if it didn't take up a support weapon it'd actually be cool. i think arrowhead needs to start thinking about another slot (in some form), for the stuff that struggles to ever be worth bringing
>>543844516It just falls short on lots of breakpoints for oneshots>war striders>harvester bodies>tank fronts>behemoth heads>warp ships need FIVE
>>543844313I’m using it right now. Albeit it’s only to level it up. I was about to defend it but now I can’t because all the other guns got buffed but the variable didn’t.
>>543845071yep
>Plas primary>Loyalist>EpochSUPER HEATED BRAPS
>>543842681as usual, once the novelty of an update wears of we find out they've been working overtime to fuck us in the ass
>>543845071You should be able to use the stim pistol to stim yourself.
>>543845071>blue strategem gives you a solid buff to powerwhat else is new.
>>5438450133/4
>>543845354Doubling up on dagger/scythe, flamethrower/crisper, or loyalist/purifier is pointless, might as well bring a different sidearm or primary.
buff regular supplies
>>543845603Youre talking a lot of shit for someone within super heated brap range
>>543845354plasma primaryplasma secondaryplasma supportplasma grenade when?
car should be default to all helldivers. and precision strike
yea i want more buffs. im like a shark and there's buff in the water
>>543844142Gamerdads would never allow that.
>>543846110Woah woah woah dude you expect fresh cadets to be responsible with a fucking car???An orbital 380mm explosive shell is much less dangerous.
Is the performance better than previously or more so the same?
>>543846234>Actual question or topic>Immediate whining that adds literally nothing to the conversationGreat.
Did they fix the minuscule amount of XP you get for Wall missions and Eradicate missions? Cant complete a squid Op without wasting time on those.
>>543844142Yes please. Now that frames are stable and we've gotten buffed it's time for the enemy AI to be heavily improved. Accurate bots, swarm and flank bugs, cultist squids.
>>543846468Mixed results it seems. I have drastically improved performance. Other say it hasn't changed.
>>543846468People seem to be reporting performance gains of like 10~20%. But we haven't seen much concrete evidence either way yet.
>>543846523guess
>>543846523no
>>543843891>>543843956>>543844150>>543844581>dev build
>>543846468one of you grab it and get into a city map
>>543846963So like the Silo it's going to be even WORSE when they push it to production?
>>543845940wort wort wort
>>543846513There is nothing to discuss. The game has the depth of a puddle.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GTuya0p_xHI&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D>he thinks arrowhead actually buffed anythingOh no no no buffsisters...
>>543847364posted it again award
>>543843891>Wow that's decent>Takes a back pack slotDOA.
>got scammed by this Serb subhuman yet again
>>543844516Supply pack means I have 11, plus stims and ammo. I can also take a support weapon. Thermite also guarantees a kill.
BUFF SHOTGUNSBUFF SOLO SILO (FOR REAL)BUFF HMGADD SPACE MISSIONSADD SKYBRIDGES AND TOWERS TO MEGACITIESADD FULL ILLUMINATE ROSTER AND MORE UNITSADD GAS GIANT PLANETSADD APCADD TANKADD BIKEADD ARMOR PAINTADD MISSING STRATAGEMSADD STRATAGEM CUSTOMIZATIONADD STRATAGEM LOADOUTSADD 12 PLAYER MISSIONSDELETE DURABLE DAMAGEDELETE ARMOR PEN SYSTEMDELETE GAMEGUARDDELETE DUPLICATE ASSETSDELETE JOELDELETE SCAMSDELETE INDIA
>>543847573>release warbond with a cool weapon>cool weapon hype helps you sell the warbond>rugpull everyone by nerfing it the next patchhow do they keep getting away with it?
>>543847364This dude looks like an unwashed schizo why the fuck should I listen to anything he says.
>>543843891>Demo strength: 30 (lol)for what purpose? the damage is enough it'll blow up fabs from the outside and 30 is enough for bug holes but not being able to blow up bile titan holes? what?
>>543845281anything a thermite one shots the C4 will one shot, they do the same damage but the C4 has a large enough explosion radius it will do multiple instances of damage to heavies.thermite DoT is still broken so you can't factor that in
what AH needs to fucking do is expand player inventory just like Rising Storm and Killing Floor 1. We can carry extra ffs
>>543846963They intentionally release stuff as shit so they look like heroes when they ad 10% damage
>>543847783>ADD BIKEI have too many bad memories from EDF to believe these will ever work.
>>543842681can someone short form this i dont want to give views to retards
>>543848773I mean the bike was a meme in HD1 too, but for different reasons.>>543848775Fire buildup tolerance on a handful of units was increased so the coyote preforms slightly worse
>>543840203yes
>Game out for almost two years>Still no quick loadouts
>>543849001Anon? You have five (five!) weapon customization slots!
the stun lance should work on chargers again
>>543847826>Unwashed schizo>dont even get up from their gaming recliner to shower>brain is full of Mt. Dew game fuelalpha gamer desu
>>543849001it literally takes a few seconds to pick your loadout
>>543849467>We shouldn't have something because you're hardly inconvenienced as it isAre you Swedish by chance?
>>543848773Unlike the EDF bikes that are insane uncontrollable speed at the cost of any sense of maneuverability, the HD1 bike was a mobile MMG platform with a sidecar meant to be used by 2 people, much like the German BMW R75, for hit and run attacks and mobility as well as an impromptu lightly protected MG turret. It was a meme, but it actually was fun to use.
>>543849571You should be changing your loadout based on what other teammates are bringing and what the mission calls for and the terrain at hand. Not everything is solved by a single loadout.
>>543848898So i just dived a mission for testing it takes>2bullets to light a warrior on fire>1 for a hunterwow its fucking RUINED
>>543848775Lots of nerfs disguised as buffs and straight-up stealth nerfs (0:38, 0:42).Some positive changes like dynamite, plasma punisher, and war strider (0:53-1:02).Coyote got a stealth nerf (1:58).Devs said they didn't touch it, but made enemies harder to set on fire (2:24-2:38, 2:41-2:57).Fire damage multiplier was stealth nerfed 20% against specific enemies (3:16-3:36).Warrior, Alpha Commander, and Devastator fire thresholds increased, essentially targeting the Coyote (4:16-5:52).These changes aren't huge, but it's deceptive (5:55-6:31).Warrior, Devastator, and Bile Spewer durability buffed (7:35-7:46).Bile Spewer mouth is now a light pen weak point, which is a good change (8:10-8:21).Devastator arms/legs and Warrior heads/bodies are now 20-30% more durable (8:36-8:46).This was a nerf dressed as a buff for many weapons, e.g., Liberator now takes more shots to kill Warriors (8:49-10:06, 11:53-12:06).Massive drag nerf on all SMGs (12:34).Drag doubled, meaning damage falls off two times faster (12:43-12:50).SMGs now have worse falloff damage than shotguns (14:40-14:50).Reprimand and Verdict got shafted due to double falloff despite minor damage buff (15:07-15:49).Smaller SMGs like Knight and Defender are better within 25m against unbuffed enemies (15:50-16:06).Cursed Flesh Mob changes (16:07).Health lowered but durability buffed by 15%, which offsets the health decrease (16:19-16:35).Means unbuffed weapons are nerfed against them (17:38-17:59).Explosive weapons were already meta and are now even better against Flesh Mobs (18:03-18:27).Senator pistol got a small damage buff, likely with double drag (18:28-18:55).Performance is better overall, with about a 20 FPS boost (18:56, 19:10-19:36).Stress tests show less crashing, which is an improvement (19:52-20:11).However, hard locks are still not fixed, and some players are still experiencing them (20:56-21:56).Game is still not in a good state and needs more performance patches (22:34-22:43).
>>543849467>Failures like Sega and Hoyo can code grabbable scrolling sidebars>Swedes can't
>>543849840not the point
>>543849891>Bile Spewer mouth is now a light pen weak poinit always wasit was just almost impossible to hit
>>543827313https://youtu.be/GTuya0p_xHI?si=6VxWazmjhU06HiHmApparently they nerfed medium weapons
I only want gas giants if we get sky cities like Bespin. But we're never getting that because Super Earth is too retarded to do sky cities. Just look at their normal cities already. Pure modern slop city designs.
What the fuck? I just got a 5-Star completion and it said “Gallantry Beyond Measure” what the fuck is that?
>>543846523squid bricks are the only fun bricks missionssilly enough to fool around but difficult enough to force competence
I just watched some MGS:V gameplay and the guards shooting up a flare at night when they detect you to illuminate the entire area is some kino shit, HD2 could never.I know the orbital flare strat exists as an unused asset or whatever, but the fact it's still not available to the player is GAY.
>>543850794I would like them if they gave you 1700XP or something.
>>543850667It means youre brown without equal
>have a buff patch>actually nerfs everythingThis game needs to die already
>>543849816Why are ginormous faggots like you so compelled to make worthless retarded opinions be known? I don't care if people will change their loadouts "based on the situation". There is nothing wrong with adding something to the game that would save everyone 15 seconds you dumb asshole.
>>543850667Are you on a planet with UK cities, by chance? Fenmire's got a couple of them. Those silly Fenmirish and their British cities.
>>543851018>The nerftrannies trying to gaslight themselves into thinking its all nerfsThe raped
>>543849891So breaking that all down, this is basically a nerf to medium pen being strictly better than light pen, and a maintaining of power level for light pen ARs. To make it so that medium pen doesn't always outshine light pen, they're using durable damage as an equalizer; give light armored enemies more durable health so that light pen is more effective at damaging them compared to medium pen. Medium pen obviously still maintains its pen advantage but LOSES effectiveness here due to increased durable health. They also wanted to generally bring down overall power against light armored targets... And this is the best way to do it without tweaking every single light pen weapon. But, by buffing AR damage vs durable they're giving light pen ARs an overall buff in both damage vs non durable and durable damage. This makes sense because ARs are the weakest primaries right now. Recap. >light pen ARs power is maintained vs newly buffed enemies, and buffed vs untouched enemies>medium pen ARs are now less effective vs the newly buffed enemies which are in general medium units with light armor>untouched light pen weapons are slightly nerfed vs the buffed enemies therefore giving them a pretty soft overall nerfIt's svedkan and convoluted but I do see the reasoning with the systems they have and the levers they can pull.
>Non-variant bugs>Gun dog, napalm barrage, strafing run, and a fourth stratagem you actually have to use yourself.>Just by existing + casting spells like some kind of cuckold wizard, proceed to get over 1000+ kills without even truly playing the game to get them. Gamerdads must love this.
MY CPU JUST SPIKED TO 9001% USAGE
>>543849840yeah I don't really care either but all this does is make the actual vanilla stratagem flamethrower even shittier which is bizzarehas anyone tried the buffed hatchet yet, the saber still feels like ass against bugs
>rec6>ar20l justicewe're so unironically back
just played a game w/ chatty grouped ranoms and one gave me shit because i didnt tell him a charger was charging him (lol)so i got to shit talking him (i was probably too harsh) and friend didn't back him up at all... not even banter, nothing...
>>543824305>why use the rail gun when you can one shot hulks with the AMR?Why use the railgun when you can both stun and one shot hulks with the speargun?
>>543851846>anonymous talked to other peopleI'm so proud of him.
>>543849891Tons to chew through but ways im seeing it is they wanted to reduce medium weapon power without touching medium weapons themselves with all these random ass durability changes + durable damage "buffs" to light.SMGs will always be ass unless they just decide to make them ARs but one handed.Explosives will always be retarded because they ignore most enemy defences and burst most down in a single shot so until other primarys literally trivialize enemies without needing to aim in sub 1 second explosive primarys will always be king.
>>543850619Bespin seems the most suited to mega cities as they are currently designed, a sprawling, built-up metropolis. Unless there are pitfall zones that just send ragdolled divers to the gassy abyss I don't really see how a "Bespin"-like city would differentiate from mega cities in their current form.
>>543824305AMRs gained the ability to 1 shot hulks but still take 3 for War Striders where the Railgun takes 1.
>>543849816>Not everything is solved by a single loadoutSlotting some sort of anti tank does solve everything though. You can meme all you want about needing to coordinate with your teammates and take the environment into account and blah blah blah, doesn't change the fact that you can just bring RR or EATs and that's enough to deal with every situation in the game.
>>543852102they wouldnt be that different, infact it'd probably fit better with how they generate maps since Bespin cities are circular and so are our maps.
>>543851635my cpu just flew over my house
>>543850619AH city design is clearly inspired by Halo Reach and ODST but it's lacking all the vertical and interior elements so it falls completely short.
>Game is literally unplayable for me after update>As in I cannot play it, immediately crashes to desktop as soon as I open itOh fun
>>543852473Reinstall, clear shader cache, reinstall display drivers, and revert to windows 10.
>>543849816Ok, so why can't I have a few favorite loadouts set up where I can change out things after the fact?
Is the Jar-5 audio bugged for anyone else now? After the 1st shot it stops having sound effects for me.
>>543852473Disable your mods
>>543852284Yeah I think I misinterpreted the original post on the subject. Gas giant cities would be neat, but I dunno if they really fit the established tone/lore/theme of the game. Given the height that Super Destroyers hover above planets though, the anti-grav tech to make pic related seems feasible enough.
>>543852704It was this, thanksI'm new
>>543852284BEPIS CITIES?
>>543852965Hi, New! I'm dad!
Over status?
>Game still stutters when Illuminate spawn from dropshipsSquid divers shafted again
>>543851709it's not the justice though, the justice was not a light pen suppressed weapon
>>543851696and some retard was trying to tell me the flamethrower support wep got buffed
>>543852965Mods tend to break after updates, which can make the game crash when launched, so that's usually the culprit. Right now it's sound and UI mods that are completely fucked. Models seem to work fine though, I still have weapons, scopes and reticles modded.
>>543853362it got buffed but in a completely asinine way that doesn't really help it at all
>>543853453more ammo is not a buff when ammo is found everywhere and was never its issue
>>543853545Thanks for repeating my post.
Realistically, would D11-15 live up to its difficulty by having it exclusively be home to a faction of "elite" versions of various enemies from each of it's subfactions?
>>543853126Basically unchanged.
>>543850667>>543851205Huh. I live in the US too.
>>543853775If they ever do make D11, having up-armored enemies scattered amongst the normal ones will basically be a requirement. >2 AT shots hulk with 3-shot slot >AP4 bile spewer >AT armored HarvesterYerp it's gonna be a thing, love.
>>543853825I know we can name our super destroyers with things like "King" and "Sovereign" but for the game being a satire of Democracy I find the new five star rating kinda off-putting. Just personally. Besides the fact that apparently the "we hear you about performance" patch includes changing the mission reward tier text for.... what reason exactly?
>>543853775What if you had a chance for patrols/drops being made up of random sub factions? Like you can get jumped by predator strain AND diggers in the same wave.
>>543854181theyve changed it at least two other times anon who cares its just some text you alt tab out of eventually
>>543846468My game is much smoother but my friend hasn't seen any improvement.
>>543843891AT backpack.This might actually make stalwart and MMG feel well rounded.
>>543853772we disagree that it was buffedyou, like a sheep, think it was buffed uselesslyI recognize that it was not buffed at all
>>543854985doesnt it take your support weapon with the detonator too? or am i fucking retarded
>>543854578That's fair. Thank you for the reminder.
>>543853775Just subfactions isn't enough, I think all enemies need to be upgraded to giganigga versions of themselves for d11+. Like technically a subfaction but it's ALL enemy types on roids.
>>543855032DOA if true.
>>543843891100% getting buffed to 40 demo minimum, the fucking dynamite can kill BT holes and this thing cant?
>>543854072D11 should be locked to +125lvl divers
>>543855032Would that mean it's team reloadable or will it be the first backpack support that isn't teamreloadable?
d11 should be locked behind lvl50 to make 150sissies seethe
>>543855554wut?
>>543855081For bots they could be a special elite brigade that have the aim and damage of launch bots. Rocket bots shoot one shot super rockets. Hulks are from that one update where they gave them the fortress lasers.Give them some glowing red pauldrons or something.
>>543852473Lower the difficulty
>>543854992No, you are just being a contrarian retard who thinks he can rewrite the definition of terms.
>>543843891I thought this was some dumb reddit meme weapon that someone made up. Is it actually real? Not going to lie, it looks pretty fucking lame. They could have made a second resupply pack for grenades only and I would have been more hyped.
>>543855207>let's make it even more exclusive for no reason I unlocked d10 at level 24, it's nothing special
>>543855081the game really needs more teamplay requirements. They really doubled down on making solo play too easy
>>543855596make me a sandwich grok
Difficulty levels should have no level requirements so that high level players can "kidnap" low level players and take them on surprise D10 missions.
>>543855826get a sense of humor
>>543856096you can do that already
>>543855552Probably not ? I imagine it wont have a proper reload and will just automatically pull from the pack as you throw one (or they make you press 5 like a supply back pack). Unless theres leaked footage of it in action already
>>543856106Not him but the pretending to be retarded joke has long overstayed its welcome, get new material
>>543843891Depends on the range of the detonator, if it's long It'll be funny to stick it on my teammates and play a game with them.
>>543855657Bots would be fucking terrifying if they actually had squad cohesion and group tactics
>>543855921People forget we were doing D9 when unlocking AC at level 10.
>>543856328>shield devastators push up>rocket devastators unload their limited rockets into the shield devas backsbravo
>>543856256>4 people bring it>everybody sticks a charge on one other person>everybody drops the detonetors in a pile>in order, someone grabs a detonetor and activates it>last man standing wins
>>543824740hd2 has motion sensor settinge that makes precision aiming extremely easy for consoloids get with the times unc
>>543856256What if it's got a short range, but auto detonates if it leaves that range? Gotta keep that little shit on a leash.
Yeah the patch is all well and good but when are squids gonna be made a fully realized faction?
>no LC buffit's actually, unironically over..
>all these awesome sound effects in game>it's all muted and never heardwhy do games have such consistently terrible sound designseriously some of these sound so fucking cool and it's just never heard
>>543853775The best way to increase difficulty is by increasing the number of chaff and improving the enemy ai. The issue is that the game can't handle doing this.
>>543856505>Rocket devs replaced with grenadier devs in D11+>Will direct-fire grenade salvos at divers if direct line of sight is available>Will arc grenades over bots that are blocking their line of sight, with heavily decreased accuracy>Tanks will now keep distance from divers while infantry push forward>Tanks are now upgraded to a larger size, and have two strider gatling turrents flanking both sides whilst being slower.>Jetpack bots will now travel in smaller patrols, main armaments replaced with sniper rifles>Will actively flank divers while keeping a large distance, taking advantage of their greatly increased attack range>Mortar hulks>Side-objective adds bot commanders on the field that can call in orbitals from the flying bot destroyers. Side-objective involves using their own orbital defense platforms to take out the ship. Doing so permanently raises the threat level for the rest of the mission.
>>543857218forgot link FUCK>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is_J_XM3Xtobut seriously why go to the effort to make such awesome sounds and then never use them?
>AH didn't give silo the ability to destroy jammersPity. We were so close to nerftroons committing 41%.
not him but nobody was acting retarded or pretending to be retarded, he just lacks a sense of humor
>>543857379Why not let you call in red stratagems on jammers instead?
>>543857361hearing good headphones or not makes a huge difference. on my PC speakers I can't hear chargers walking around at all, but the second I put my headphones on I hear them clear as day like the enhanced audio version
>>543857252that sounds boring honestly. i'm glad you are not in charge of enemy design
imagine objectives that are hard
>>543857082My guess is game awards. We already have leaked missions for Bots on lava worlds, so im assuming thats coming soon(tm). Then Cultists will come after. Maybie. I honestly don't know anymore.
>>543857340>marauders that are actually the hulked out troopers they look like, av3 torsos and shoulders and their fusion assault rifles are what MG raiders have now, and vastly improved AI>jet zerkers that will bull-rush you like a charger using its jetpack as a rocket boost to run faster>gunships now do slow strafing runs with much faster fire rate guns instead of hovering at long range>barrager tanks actually shoot
Any weapons became really good after the update or are they all just a bit better now?
>>543857082Part of me is coping that they'll eventually do something crazy like have a story line where the cultists go too far and start turning their own population into cancerous blobs like they do humans. Then they split and become 2 factions: the eldrich horror zombie cultists, and the purists that slowly recover old illuminate tech and go back to heavy usage of overseers. Basically seperate them into the covenant and the flood from halo.
>>543858436AMR on bots is probably the biggest winner of the patch.
>>543857827Hinging difficulty entirely on a small amount of enemies that take exclusively heavy weapons to deal with is exactly what encourages everyone to bring 4 RRs and ATEs to every mission, while neglecting the entire rest of your arsenal in the process.Having to deal with swarms of MG Raiders, and maybe even an equally improved Brawler variant, from all angles while also having to contend with the forward wave of Heavy enemies, forces you to constantly be repositioning while also swapping between weapons to deal with varied threats.
>>543858930AMR dind't really feel that different beyond having 2 extra mags.It still sucks to use on account of not having a 3rd person reticle.
>>543859293>3rd person reticle.This is honestly the only change they needed to make
>>543851448>Devs right after Coyote comes out"We need to look at buffing the other ARs".>Devs this patch"Let's keep all the weapons everyone was complaining about in the same place they were before, while nerfing everything else. ESPECIALLY smgs, because fuck the weirdos who use those."Classic AH.
>>543857082It's kind of crazy that it's been almost a year and they still have fewer full-faction features than bugs and bots. For fuck's sake, we still don't have regular non-colony open world maps with more than just a handful of objective types.
How does my baby feel now? Hit any relevant breakpoints?
>>543859293you one shot hulks in the eyes which is a minor bonus, 3 shot war strider eyes which is incredible change for the AMR and you get 2 mags bag from ground pickups now instead of 1 making it less dogshit at ammo economy if you scavenge.
>>543858436AC got a direct buff and a MP-98 magdump upclose to a impaler kills it in 2 seconds but they stealth nerfed the coyote by increasing enemy fire resist.
>>543860005>smgs got very nice buff>sniper weirdo thinks its a nerfDrag is irrelivant for the ranges smgs are good at while the damage increase is quite noticable.I have no idea what the math behind drag is but defender can 2 tap heads just fine at distance.
>>543853126doomfags exaggeratingliterally the only thing that was "stealth nerfed" about it was it maybe takes 1 extra bullet to light enemies on firemassive nothingburger
>>543857379Another stratagem that will fall off and be forgotten once its warbond is no longer the current thing, but at least da nerftroons are unhappy right
I assume most of picrel and the like are AI generated. Custom trained model? How tf do???
>>543860298im not to sure how it works now, but reading the patch notes makes me think its entirely explosive damage.doesnt that mean some enemies are completely immune to it's damage?
>>543861341but anon, mid/long range weapons are better at close range than ones specifically designed for it since you don't need extensive ammo reserves or sustained fire for anything anymoreso it's really a gun that won't let you down at any range VS one that will
lobby doko?
>>543861495I don't get why people think the silo will disapear.It's a solid stratagem that is fun to use, very comparable to the portable hellbomb.
>>543861690>No pic
I don't understand how everyone is treating the guns getting like, ten more damage that doesn't change any breakpoints into some huge OMG THEY BUFFED EVERYTHING! The shitty guns are still shit.
>>543861690>>543861835>picrel
>>543861728I usually combo smgs with supports that do well at mid to long range like AC or AMR.SMGs feel way better at short ranges on account of having so much ergo and being one handed is usefull every now and then.
The actual shittiest gun in the game is blitzer.
>>543861759insane notion, portable hellbomb was a game changer, solo silo is a less capable 500kgit needs utility, dispassionate reasons to be picked, something you can point to if asked how it makes your diver more capable than they would be without itand the ability to pop jammers would provide exactly that
>>543860298assuming the direct damage never actually hit like some anons were saying then it should take 1 less shot on multiple bugs now like warriors and hive guards should both need 1 less. It one shots hunters now, it 5 shots Alpha commanders.
>>543862031yeah i made that as a shitpost at the end of a thread earlier this morning. Its Novelai no training just tossed in a reference image and it shit that out with some simple prompting but thats all ill say about it since i dont like posting too much slopposting here.
>>543862286Nta, but it's a good shitpost.
>>543862074>less capable 500kg>infinite range>1 hits dogsYou're unwell in the head.
>>543862038>gun is added before the 60 day plan, during the shitty "your primary isn't for clearing chaff :^)" phase>gimmick is infinite ammo>gun is super gimped to compensate for having infinite ammo>its actually pretty decent on bugs at release>never gets touched up even once after this, woefully out of pace with the game, more of a joke weapon than the constitution
>>543862074I don't think utterly trivializing jammers is necessary. I think that the silo can be competitive with other red/expendable options if they give it a better cooldown and/or a larger more devastating blast radius.
>>543862463it did get touched up twice, first one being improved fire rate and ability to just hold the trigger to max fire rate because people sucked at clicking once ever 1.3 seconds or something.
>>543862034mehDMRs can be given shittons of ergo, even DCS with its (wholly undeserved) rep of being too slow can go up to 40 ergo, coincidentally the number past which diminishing returns and the placebo effect kick inif it can't do mid to long range well it's just bad imo, only excluding shotties that get a lot of utility for it
>>543861698not any you weren't already not killing with the punisher plasma before the patch
>>543861698I think that only applies if they are fully AP4 coated including their main health so the AP3 explosive can never clip their main HP down.
>>543861357Unless it's an elevated overseer in which case you just shred them now.
>>543833550I like the De-Escalator on squids. I've got eruptor+talon dealing with the medium/heavy targets. Voteless can get annoying when they're a bit too numerous for the talon's heatsink and a bit too spread out for the eruptor's AOE. The large danger zone from the zap nades mops them up quick. The reload rate is still annoying, but the near doubling of its damage essentially halved how often that I need to reload the thing.
Why is the scope on the Silo remote so dogshit? It should let us zoom out like the anti tank emplacement
>woah this leaked warbond looks really cool>*look inside*>*its another assault rifle*At least its suppressed, so it offers meaningful gameplay alterations but for fucks sake im so tired of ARs
>>543862736Thing with SMGs is that you get to ignore all ergo options and just put on foregrips and big mags and still end up with alot of ergo.
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>be me>advocate for sniper enemies>asked if I have a sick desire to watch melee and dakka divers getting skullfucked from 500m by sniper fire while trying to do a dark souls>mfw
Almost two weeks have passed and the squids haven't returned. Enjoy some sun on the Beach, this Liberty Day.
>buff a bunch of guns>make the enemies more durable anyway>the whole "buff" patch is a lie
>>543863173>>make the enemies more durable anywayWorks on my front.
>>543863305Heh nice joke, nobody actually play squid
>>543863305>"slightly"Filthy. Swedes.
>>543846468I was already running a pretty aggressively stripped down helldivers 2 to get the game to stay around 60 fps in D10s with ini tweaks and dxvk added on for good measure. The patch has given me 20 - 25 frames
>>5438630743/4
>>543862948>its suppressed, so it offers meaningful gameplay alterationsnigga they don't work
>>543863486Does durability even matter on fleshmobs?
>>5438630743/4, starting in 5last chance to join
>>543861341smgs and sidearms still have the gay omega-sway if you've been sprinting at any point in the past millennium
>>543863305Why does AH always do>balance to improve something>but then make something worse so that it feels about the sameDo they think balancing is about keeping something in the same place through changes, rather than changing something for good?
>>543864342Wait ive been fucking hating that shit while using my defenderAre you saying if I bring the lib instead it wont have that problem?
>>543864418In the case of the fleshmobs, I think that perhaps they might have been trying to make light pen weapons more favorable vs them relative to other options. Stupid swiggers don't realize that explosions are still king vs them.
>priority alert, the hellmire systemwhy did we pick hellmirewhat possible fucking reason could have led us to that decision so long ago
>Third Hellmire defense of the week
>>543864558yesplease report back if it still happens and if so I will commit sudoku
>>543863918Yes.This guy >>543847364 went into more detail on them if you care to check yourself.At the almost 16 minute mark is the start of that bit.
>>543864720Doesn't matter. A good GM would've either: Make keeping it less frequent or make keeping it a separate major/minor order.A good GM would've made it so you could make a secondary base somewhere else so there are too options when they want to trigger le defend garbage. A good GM is not Joel.
did they seriously not fix the infinite supply pack bug?
>>543863173Enemies got weaker overall as is usual. Not sure what you're talking about.
>>543864935The fleshmob saying "increased durability to compensate for decreased health" in the patchnotes was so whacky. WHY WOULD YOU COMPENSATE FOR A NERF, YOU FUCKS?
>>543865284He's brown.
>>543864720>what possible fucking reason could have led us to that decision so long agoThe other two options required taking another planet.
>>543863781Yes but at least its the *illusion* of gameplay differences, you know?
time to doom>no changes to shield backpack, it has remained the way it has been since it was nerfed during the alexus days>no changes to the heavy/medium/light armor balance, still no way to get unflinching on heavy armor, no reduction to flinching or ragdolling for heavy armor>the epoch fix made it easier to use (it did not need this) and realistically did nothing other than cave to demands rather than actually improve its payoff for being a highly niche skill cannon, which it no longer is>railgun wasn't reworked in observance of epoch's QOL changes which were obviously successful>the rec-6 is being added in again, but now it has a backpack, because if you ever want any support weapon to not be the epoch it has to be the recoilless rifle instead
>>543865285AH is desperately trying to maintain some form of balance for the game. But it's becoming clear that the player base won't be happy until everything dies in one hit from a peacemaker.
>>543865284Chaff enemies got weaker. Most of the medium and heavy enemies remain about the same. But chaff enemies were already dying to 1 - 3 liberator shots. Them now dying to 1-2 liberator shots is not important. People are too easily fooled by bigger number.
>>543865351your soul has been broken by swedes
>>543865285Because they're idiots. Making the heads into proper weakpoints was more than enough, but for some reason they decided to mess with the other stats as well for some reason.>>543865416Are you still fucking at this?
>>543865416Fleshmobs would be fine if they spawned in Tank numbers rather than in berserker numbers. If they want to spawn the things in berserker numbers, then they should be as weak as berserkers, simple ass.
>>543865415>highly niche skill cannon, which it no longer isdo epochtards really believe this
>>543865285Because Alexus still hasn't been fired.
>>543864935I don't know it still feels like they go down quicker with the coyote than they used to, that or speargun is doing more damage now and that's where it's coming from. Might need more testing.
bros is durable damage a bad system?
>>543865593Yes. They do. The epoch is still borderline C/D tier. The demo force changes at least give it a bit more utility, but honestly even the uncharged shots should have that 30 demo force.
>>543865593this thread was full of complaints that "the epoch can blow up if you time it wrong!" while anyone with a small amount of skill was firing fully charged shots back to back with no issue, so I won't be accepting any criticism from anyone here, thanks
>>543865285I believe the idea here was specifically giving light pen more against them, but if those numbers are right it had the effect of fucking med pen against them.
>>543865415>epoch gets easier to use and a slight bump in damageJust a slight improvement to an already good weapon.What are you malding over exactly?
>>543865521Are you still crying over enemies that die to a gentle breeze?
Stats for C4 charge are:Inner radius: 3.0Outer radius: 7.0Stagger radius: 8.02000 damageArmor pen per angle: 7 7 7 7Demolition strength: 30>>543824491Stats for R-72 Censor (Justice):Damage: 165Capacity: 20Recoil: 13Fire rate: 400Light pen and supressed
>>543865521>are you still at this?gucci does not sleep and I'm positive he spends his welfare on paying a jeet 0.0012 cents to shitpost when he has to go shit and piss
>>543865764The complaint was never "OMG IT'S DANGEROUS!!!!". The complaint was that it was stupid to for it to be dangerous when its "payoff" was so lackluster. It was always a high risk low reward weapon. The reward is still low, but the risk is a bit lower.
>>543865851>The complaint was that it was stupid to for it to be dangerousIt was never dangerous. Exploding it wasn't something anyone with a brain ever did. The fact that you think there was an inherent risk is why I'm not accepting your opinion. Good day.
>>543865560Feel like this is usually the issue with units that people tend to hate. I feel like the war strider would be less hated if it spawned in tank numbers instead of having a minimum of 1 at every poi when they are on a mission.
>>543865779>the idea here was specifically giving light pen more against them>Light pen before buff: 83 rounds to kill>Light pen after buff: 81 rounds to kill.Well, it can't be said you're wrong.
>>543865764because the audio cue would desync making it unreliable and the visuals are purposefully misleading which makes it not an engaging weapon
>>543865819that is NOT the ar20l justice, sorry justice poster, you're still not released from your posting and your images are now worthless
By next year, flesh mobs will have their health reduced to 1000 hp. But it still won't be enough to satisfy redditors and /hdg/.
>>543865819P-35 Re-Educator stats:Damage: 60Capacity: 6Recoil: 6Fire rate: 110Applies gas>>543866031It is labeled internally as justice, it's joever
>>543865935I'm ignoring your opinion because you keep ignoring that the thing had no payoff.
>>543865819This is unironically the worst timeline.
>>543866034Well yeah, that won't really solve the innate issue with the fleshmob just being unfun to fight, you just turned it from an unfun bullet sponge to an unfun minor annoyance.
>>543865285>heads do more damage to core health>heads only have 25% explosive resistance>rest of fleshmob is now more durable>explosives ignore durabilityI'm pretty sure the solution is "use explosives"
>>543866089>gas pistolwelp, there's the new meta
>/hdg/ anons have been expecting Justice for forever>I didn't play HD1, but from what i can gather they were expecting it to be a big dick "7.62 REAL FUCKING NATO" rifle>Alexus is made it a light pen mouse fart silenced gunSomeone might actually hunt Alexus down for this.
>>543866214What would make fleshmobs fun to fight?
>>543866089Probably just a variant of the justice. The real one will come.
>>543866260Nothing ever changes. They just continue to reinforce the "explosives in every slot" meta.
>>543866295Med pen is obsolete, light pen is officially king aftwr all the buffs.
>>543866350They've already made a good choice in having the heads deal extra damage to main instead of just being 1 to 1, but the other thing they should do would be to make damaging the legs slow them down, cancel charges, and knock them prone when fully damaged. You'd be able to choose between just gunning them down, or aiming for the heads and flanking them, or blowing out the legs and running around them.
>sickle got buffedNeato. So there's a reason to use it over the dickle now, since you dont need to keep firing for half a minute before you get the benefit of the higher damage anymore.
I use AMR a lot, but besides being able to 1 shot hulks I haven't noticed a difference. People are saying something about ergo chance?I am retarded and don't even know what ergo does. It feels the same to me aside from doing a bit more damage.
>>543866546So in your opinion making them more fun to fight is just making them easier to kill? They would just be a minor inconvenience at that point and now serve no actual threat to the player.
>>543866350Really keeping the original durability and health, keep the skulls being weak points, and decrease their spawn rate. Mix with having attacking the legs do something and you'd have an enemy that exists to primarily distract a team from other threats since if ignored it can steamroll them while not being five stat blocks that just deny an area from existing. Really though that just makes them a slightly more vulnerable charger but blue.
>>543865819Is the C4 a support + backpack strat?And is the not justice full auto?
>>543866621No ergo change.
>>543866295Light pen would be fine if it worked like it does in every other game and did decreased damage per armor stage above it. No game does this "Assault rifle bounces off of everything" shit.
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>>543866695So just make them a non threat?
>>543866089Wonder if it's medium pen or just an explosion. Watch it not gas stuff in one click
>>543864720i for one love fire tornado planetsall the main planets with MO's are either piss coloured or have boring environmentalsnow and fire are the funniest
>>543866691>Additional option to kill them faster if you can aim properly and are smart enough to flank them or work with teammates>Regular option to kill them with wasteful mass fire like before>Cop out option to incapacitate them by shooting at the legs, not killing them but instead turning them into an environmental hazardExtra options that encourage team play, proper positioning, and skilled aim, are fun, and by giving people choices that encourage these things you're even given the oportunity to do something crazy like BUFFING Fleshmob health since now there's ways to work around it.Unfortunately you're a retard, and I do not pity you.
>>543866350Make them more engaging. Shooting a leg off slows it down but doesn't prevent it from charging, shooting both of them off does stop it from charging and makes it crawl. However, since it's got four arms, its base movespeed is actually a little faster crawling than it was on two legs. When all its limbs are destroyed, it dies. This would give players an incentive to blow off the arms instead of just kneecapping it like the voteless. Arms are immune to explosives, legs and heads are still susceptible.Each head destroyed should induce a stacking bleedout.Play around with the total HP, limb health/durability, and adrenaline-fueled crawl-speed until it's dangerous, but still fun to fight.
>>543865819Can someone check up on Justiceanon.
>>543866795No. You're retarded, gucci.
>>543865819>Demolition strength: 30LMAO DAS SERBENSCHWEIN SCHLÄGT WIEDER ZU CALLED IT CALLED IT AHAHA USELESS ITEM
>>543823636bots only ever required ap4you can't name an enemy that couldn't been killed with ap4
>>543871262What about niggers? What AP do I need for them???
