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We're so fucking back.
>Previous
>>543866775

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Oct 23 Patch 4.1.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBW4NumlYHo

>LATEST PATCHES
Oct 23 1.004.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/538868565209514366
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It's so fucking over.
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>>543924647
I'm sorry, Justicebro. I think we just need to be happy it's in the game at all.
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>>543924647
wtf censor that!
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Do your best/worst
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I'm new, what's the best loadout against pedo bugs?
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Haven't played in a while. What did they fuck up this time?
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>>543903965
https://youtu.be/OBW4NumlYHo?t=860
Epoch demo strength has been increased from 10 to 20. It can destroy container doors and close bug holes now. If only we could somehow harness electrical energy from the incredible amounts of seethe Alexus must be outputting right now. It could power all of Scandanavia.
>Alexus "plasma has no weight" status?
Utterly BTFO.
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>>543924956
Any primary with stagger (I like the cookout and the halo shotty)
Stalwart
Eagle napalm or orbital napalm to suppress bug breaches
EATs for the errant heavy
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>>543925082
Actually it's 30, not 20.
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>>543924949
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>>543925361
if it comes from an explosion, it's 20
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>>543924956
>Punisher/Slugger/Cookout
>Ultimatum
>Gas Nades
>Gun Dog
>MMG
>MG turret
>Strafing Run
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lol
lmao
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>>543925913
>Try to use it to infiltrate base
>Arrowhead set the detonation sound to be extremely loud
>Now all of Cyberstan knows I am here
COOL
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>demolition charge takes 3 bricks to kill an unshielded warp ship
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>>543924949
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>pretty much buff everything but fire
>you guys are still complaining
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Doko
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The harpoon gun feels so good on bots now it's actually crazy.
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>>543924519
OP got vandalized again. Whoever bakes next please copy text from >>543774189 instead of this one. I'd upload my txt file but catbox seems to be shitting itself.
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>>543925082
Can it destroy illegal broadcasts and destroy fabricators?
>>543924949
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>>543926865
I want d11 and vertical maps, not buffs
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Predator strain is so ass.
Cant use the flame thrower since its guaranteed they will hit me.
Cant turn around to throw a grenade into a bug hole because suddenly 5 predator stalkers are balls deep in my ass.
Somehow breaking my leg in almost every attack if im not wearing heavy armour.
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>>543927118
>updating the patch and news links to be relevant
>vandalize
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luv me arc thrower
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>>543928096
wear odst armor
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>>543928135
>Spread Democracy™
>Liberate™
now why does childish shit like this keep happening
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>>543928670
redditors
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>>543928670
>a little joke
>nothing else broken
>>muh vandalize
autism
bet you're treating wikipedia articles seriously too
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>almost Liberty Day
>no flag buff
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>>543924949
# # #...!!!
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Still not playing
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>>543929483
k
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>>543928837
minor acts of vandalism are still vandalism, friendo
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Anyone have hardlocking happening still? Swore off the game until they fixed that, I ain't bricking my rig.
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>>543930047
also taking things seriously is a matter of ability, not choice
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>>543922656
ggs
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Can AMR two-tap War Striders to the eye?
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> Improved initial bullet alignment while strafing and riding in vehicles

So what does this actually mean? Can we actually lean out of the FRV without getting cut down by the gunner?
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>>543930805
Probably just means less of this
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I THINK HELLMIRE SUCKS
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>>543924949
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>>543930805
no, it' means your bullet will leave your gun from the right spot whenever you're moving
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>>543930596
3.
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I see the Scythe got a buff. Does it feel any better? I know laser weapons interact with durable type calculations weirdly.
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>>543931509
I dont see that, do you mean the Sickle? If so its basically a slight offset for the extra durability they gave many enemies.
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So hows the Plasma Punisher post buff?
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>>543931726
Oh, right you are. I've mained each at different times, so I get them confused occasionally. At least my Seekers and Solo Silo got buffs.
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I actually love the Halo shotgun. It's like the greatest thing ever against pedobugs. You just need to get used to reloading the shit out of it at every opportunity, after every shot if you can
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>>543932020
>pedobugs
We already know bugchasers are troon coded. You dont need to make up nicknames.
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>>543931831
1 less shot for most enemies. Notables being Hunters take 1 shot now only, Rocket Striders take 2 shots as long as you can splash the faceplate+both legs. Havent fucked with Squiggers since i think its easily worst faction for it.
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>>543932186
le sigh the joke is that they are predators and it sounds like pedobear, kind of
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Was it not possible for the De-Escalator to hit you (the shooter) before?
I'm firing it directly at the ground so it explodes in my face and it isn't hitting me.
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>>543932189
Squids are a great faction for it
mass stagger allows you to easily control and thin zombie herds and it 3-shotted overseers pre-buff
haven't played squids yet but i can only imagine it pops fleshpounds easier too
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>>543927260
Demo 20 on uncharged is enough for all regular spawner weakspots. Demo 30 on overcharge can do broadcasts.
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I have yet to join a single Hellmire game where we actually extract. It's 100% the roach that's fucking every game up. It takes 5 gorillion shots to take it down and will guaranteed hit you once per fly-by. Take an anti-tank and you get raped by a pack of hunters and stalkers, but if you don't take anti-tank you get raped by roaches. The one guy that has anti tank keeps dying by press on his way to grab his dropped support weapons. What a fucking shitshow
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>>543932615
pretty sure it was 4 for overseers because i remember having to count to 4 on elevated overseers before and that was the main reason i dropped it for squids entirely. It SHOULD be 2 for elevateds now and 3 for regular ones but again I havent taken it to squids in like 9 months so I never even tried it against fleshmobs.
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>>543933029
Auto
Cannon
Flak
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>>543933129
Tried that but I'm still shooting it way too much. Is there a specific body part I need to aim for or something? Still get raped by press too cause they're not letting me reload
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modded lobby doko?
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>>543933029
Roach is a complete non-issue after the patch. It wasn't even that bad before it if you just had someone take railcannon or epoch
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>>543933370
>Is there a specific body part I need to aim for
Well yeah, the wings. They are huge, soft and soak up all the shrapnel. Focus on one of them
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>>543926973
What changed?
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How is the stability since the patch?
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>>543933596
The game itself is more stable, but GameGuard is still korean malware so if you were having hard-lock issues before, no patch will save you. Only the removal of GameGuard will help.
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>>543933029
I diagnose you with skill issue, and recommend you treat it by lowering the difficulty.
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Does the game still stutter like crazy during the drop? All I wanna know.
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ANOTHER HELLMIRE DEFENSE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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>shitton of stealth nerfs
Nice patch fags.
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>>543934148
No, it has few microstutters on loading but there's no big ass stutter like before and the drop is stutterless.
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I DUCKING LOVE HELLMIRE
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>>543934279
lovely
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>>543934291
lolibaba > rapist
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>>543934174
Not rigged btw just Joel spamming invasions until it falls
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Is the bot front still freeze stuttering?
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>>543935552
no
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>>543933029
>Take an anti-tank and you get raped
>don't take anti-tank you get raped
This is why Liberty gave us EATs to pair with non-AT support weapons. You get your regular old metacrutcher gun to clear the little shits as well as very nice AT on demand. No need to choose.
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>>543932615
i just tested it based on your post it actually feels pretty solid even drops fleshmobs in 5-6 shots if you try splash their upper head clusters. 2 for Elevated and 3 for other overseers. Maybe i got a new squigger gun to try now and again thanks.
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>>543935552
played 6 bot missions in a row last night, 1-2 used to start stutters/audio into 3rd almost always crashing but that did not happen at all so that shits been fixed at the least for me.
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>>543935637
>>543935739
Good to hear my favorite faction being fucked was one of the main reasons I stopped playing
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>>543930047
>minor acts of vandalism are still vandalism, friendo
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>>543934291
FVLL
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>>543936073
if you actually hated degenerates instead of just using them as bait you'd fully agree on the need to enforce good behavior and correctness in all things
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>>543934904
>>543934291
full
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>>543930047
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>>543924519
>Spread Democracy™
>Liberate™
You need to go back
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>>543937168
warriors take 2 bullets instead of 1 now and bile spewers take 3. Truly a dead gun
>its a full auto people magdumped for the most part anyways
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>>543937168
Every single fucking time.
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dragon roaches are so much better now holy fuck, so kino having it fly by and everyone lighting up the wings
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>>543937168
The "buffs" they did to the Pummeler, Liberator and Knight are funny.
>add more damage
>increase breakpoints for a lot of enemies lmao
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>>543937291
>It only takes twice the ammunition for a basic enemy, it's not a nerf at all.
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>>543938717
yep twice the ammo you were already expending magdumping like every coyote user.
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>>543937291
I forget if it's warriors but one of those bugs also takes 3 bullets. It gets set on fire after 2 but the fire nerf means it doesn't even die from the DoT.

They fucking set the value from 2.0 to 2.1 to only mess with the coyotes breakpoint. SMGs got nerfed way harder (while also being advertised as a buff) so it's not like the coyote is going to be shit - but they literally smugly grinned going fucking "ohoho lol we didn't nerf the coyote guys!" If normgroids weren't so retarded AH would be getting rightfully lynched right now.
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>every single weapon straight up got nerfed against devastators and warriors
Nice patch, you swiggers.
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>>543938878
Punisher Plasma and Scorcher bros eating good.
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You know whats funny to think about?
What if the entirety of the playerbase was ‘good’ at the galactic war?
You think Joel is a bad GM now? Imagine if he had to deal with a competent and coordinated playerbase. Like, 95% of players used the companion apps and coordinated MOs, gambits, and offenses consistently and effectively. They would have to actually hard force deny access to planets after a point, or ramp up the numbers to beyond bullshit (aka unfun) levels.
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>We fixed the roach :)
and it still has undodgable fire and can outright instant kill you if you don't take fire resist armor
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>The Year Of Our Lord 2025
>squids are still an incomplete faction
>no objective variety, no open world map, no Mega Forts
>enemy variety is by far the lowest among the three factions
>no actual threats that require AT weaponry
>meanwhile bugs got a new update that added an entire biome and tileset, plus a half-dozen new enemies, two of them completely new

Makes me wonder if the faction will be anywhere close to parity by the end of 2026.
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>>543938876
That goes for this general, too. I popped in earlier and everyone was aggressively deep throating Arrowswig and the path.
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>>543939008
I mean thats how it used to be. People used to actually be able to make an impact but joel kept having piss fits and kept "fixing" (rigging) liberation to the point where the only way we can make any impact is f you have nearly half the player base on one planet for several hours.
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>>543939151
Just pre-stim nigga
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>>543938973
>punisher plasma
You mean the weapon that lost all it's projectile damage in exchange for "more" explosion damage that ends up being 25 less than the previous over all damage?
Everyone got fucking buttfucked by these goddamn Swiggers. They didn't address SHIT, and nerfed a bunch of weapons.
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>>543939384
>Just pre-stim a one shot
retard
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>>543939151
pre-stim, dive, run diagonally away, etc
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>always hear people swesting over and crying about breakpoints and damage thresholds and shit
>game never really gets any easier or harder after like 2 months from when D10 released when I use exclusively roleplay builds on controller usually high
I die on average maybe 2-3 times, with variance of 0s and sometimes having bad games or hard seeds.
I dunno, maybe its just a skill issue.
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>>543939491
I've prestimmed mines before
you don't play the game
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>>543939151
You can sometimes see the fire on the ground now. (still no explanation as to why its bile spew attack also causes fire, unlike any other bug in the game)
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>>543939557
No you didnt
retard
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>>543938808
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>>543939208
TRVKE! I'm sure most people just don't know the numbers though.

Normally I wouldn't shill helltubers (except for my wife eravin) but everyone ITT interested in how much AH dateraped us with this patch ought to look at the numbers here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTuya0p_xHI&t=118s
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>>543939491
It's not a one shot, it just has lots of DPS.
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>>543939826
>"erm its not a one shot! its just did 35097235027352 damage!"
retard
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>>543939204
>it is 2025
>True
>True
>true
>sorta the point of squid gameplay to be the no-AT needed race
>bugs getting a big update is independent of squids, who were the focus of the last 2 title updates
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>>543939826
You made the mistake of arguing with someone that doesn't play the game
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I love seeing the bugniggers who brainlessly always default to light armour get instant killed by a dragonroach's breath attack headshotting them.
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>>543939459
You NEVER EVER actually used the impact damage because the PP has a 0.5m proxy fuse. Nice way to out yourself as not using it.
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>>543938876
The weapon buffs we NEEDED were increases to durable damage, increases to fire rate for a few weapons and decreases to drag on most weapons. The reason a, for example 100 weapon damage per bullet weapon, feels like shit is a combo of basically everything worth killing having durable up the ass and drag meaning that you are dealing less than half of that damage a few paces in front of you, so the number given in the stat screen is never real.

Some of the good buffs were stuff like moving the projectile damage to the explosion on the plasma garbage dispenser. But generally, a lot of it is a pile of nothing, or the wrong weapons being buffed in the wrong way (moar damage when most weapons kill non-durable enemies in a few shots already)
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>>543939978
>he thinks pre-stimming gas mines is a valid argument
retard
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>>543939459
it had 400% drag on the projectile, so you essentially only dealt 115 damage per shot unless you point blanked something. Trading away ~25 potential possible damage for guaranteed durable ignore damage and range basically comes out to you dealing 100% more damage in 99.9% of scenarios.
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>>543940035
You're right. I actually never used that piece of shit.
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>>543939208
my cope is that the AH glazers are just patch tourists that have left after yesterday's embarrassingly long melty
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I would be heartbroken if I found out one of the players in an /hdg/ lobby was as retarded as the "posters" here
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>>543933029
>Take an anti-tank and you get raped by a pack of hunters and stalkers, but if you don't take anti-tank you get raped by roaches.
Bring the Spear and the Stalwart, then? You and the rest of the retards that play this game need to stop this notion that you can't bring more than one support weapon to deal with the problems the game throws at you. The worm itself pretty much demands you bring Spear + AC just to deal with it.
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>>543940149
I wasn't here, as I gave up on things before the patch release. What happened?
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>>543940290
>spear and stalwart
This is one of the funniest things I have ever read
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>level 15 or lower player
>full Halo Warbond loadout
Every time, you think they'd play the game more before being so loose with their spare change.
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>>543940371
coyote takes one bullet more to set mediums on fire
it's ruined
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>>543940371
the usual buff/nerftranny shitfit, didn't read it much because I was playing the game
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>>543939916
well stims heals 35097235027352 health so it evens out
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>>543940424
Like half of all the Xbox players I dove with during the Xbox week all had Super Citizen, and were all running around with the Constitution instead of the superior Knight.
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>>543940507
You failed math
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>>543940451
I mean. Yeah. It's not that great of a weapon if you nerf the fire. Which they did.
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Smgs actually good or still meme?
Haven’t tried em yet.
Namely knight and rep.
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>>543940629
yeah I was always more into history and art
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>>543940743
They fucked them all over in terms of bullet drag. Knight was a mini-Stalwart for a little while, and I enjoyed using mine for that brief time period. Alas. All these buffs will be lost in time. Like tears in rain.
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>>543940743
they average to about the same unless you get very close to the dudes. Like halo shotgun close. They are practically one step away from melee weapons now.
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I genuinely hope we lose this because it would be the funniest shit ever especially after they spent 5 weeks changing digger bugs
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>>543940743
literally no reason to take them over any AR. they keep adding drag to force them into some sort of niche, but it just ends up reinforcing the meta
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>>543940715
warriors still perish after lit, devastators just aim for the fucking head. It was always dogshit at killing alpha commanders. The worst change is just random durability sprinkled everywhere making all the damage buffs for SMGs worthless lol
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>>543940774
>confirmed dumb
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>>543934291
3/4
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>>543940984
They nerfed the fire damage for those same enemies. What's the fucking point of having a fire AR if you gotta shoot them 3 times instead of 4? Why micromanage that shit?
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>>543941013
not sure what your point is, it's an objective fact that there was a meltdown lasting several hours yesterday
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>>543940993
FVLL.
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>>543940981
The thing enforcing the meta is durable. They need to stop adding this to everything at random. Yes, everyone would rather deal full damage with their weapon to all enemies rather than deal full damage to only some enemies in some spots. That is all the explosive meta boils down to.
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>>543940743
If you treat them like the pistols they are then they are okay.
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>>543940743
20-30% more dmg against enemies that now have 20-30% more durability (so on average like 1-3 extra damage per bullet which hits 0 breakpoints) also now the damage dropoff is x2 (DOUBLED) because low T swedish men are physically incapable of not lying. Unironically malicious compliance retaliation against the community wanting buffs.
So here's you buffs! Enjoy.

Oh also reprimand - the one good SMG - was nerfed the most.
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>>543940957
It would just cause a 48 hour mo to take it back
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>>543941610
I'm really so fucking sick and tired of Swedes thanks to these disingenuous, forked-tongue fucks at Arrowhead.
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>>543940743
Same as picking a melee weapon for your secondary or Orbital Smoke Strike. Basically throwing a slot away
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>>543941610
I really liked my Knight. I do not want to load this game up just to see it with it's dick in the dirt.
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Huh. Neat.
Its honestly crazy how small Squid resistance is. We could wipe them off the map in a week or so and force Joel to blatantly rig the resistances to huge levels.
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>>543933572
for the speargun? nothing
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>>543941610
Warriors are the only enemies that got a buff this patch that actually impacts light pen weapons. Stop crying like a bitch
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>>543941986
I uninstalled yesterday after playing for a bit. I'll hang out here for a few days in case there is some announcement of further fixes to look forward to. I don't think "look forward to" is the right expression, tho.
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>SMG damage fall off is now worse than fucking shotguns at close range
Remember when people were praising these swigger shits for being so knowledgeable about weapons because they were all conscripts in the Swedish army? Fucking normgroids, man.
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>>543941516
The problem is after more than a year and a half they can't just concede that their design philosophy was misguided. They've just begun disguising their nerfs to fool casuals. Pretty soon undocumented changes are going to outweigh published ones.
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>>543940981
The knight and the sta11 both have an awesome firerate (knight being the best) and both are great with the ballistic shield. Could very quickly mag dump fleshmobs even before the patch and kill them fast in a little less than 2 mags. Overseer's armor sucks, but you can put so damage on target so fast that you just mag dump through it. Siege ready is a good passive with SMGs plus helps reload.

But I will admit that ballistic shield feels like a high risk medium reward. You can make it work, but you're really having to make it work. Llimit you on your primary is the biggest factor. What players want is the reprimand as a one hand, and it's really more on them for making the defender just not as good as the other SMGs.
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>>543942336
You ain’t do shit, and you ain’t going anywhere.
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>>543942438
>Pretty soon undocumented changes are going to outweigh published ones.
Nothing a fresh wave of bans from the subreddit and the discord can't address, anon!
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>>543942258
I know! This is the best update. I highly recommend everyone plays more! Good engagement, concurrent players are going up already! Great weekend for investors incoming! Dinner will be good!
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>>543942336
>I uninstalled yesterday
Cool
>I'll hang out here for a few days
No, just go away, your opinion is worthless now
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>>543942597
dumb akarin poster
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>>543942697
Don't bully!
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>>543942597
>the beatings will continue until morale improves
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>>543943416
Shut up, Dad!
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>>543942613
no one wants you to know this but if you buy 10000 reddit upvotes you can make the devs put literally anything you want in the game.
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>>543942613
>>543943518
Wait, my math comes out to 12 dollars for 10,000 upvotes (technically, "actions"). That can't be right.
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>>543943582
>>543943582
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>>543943761
hold my bacon narwhal, I'm going in!
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>>543942002
If only squids were fun to play
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Give the OTF heavy pen. I'm not asking.
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>>543942002
Are fleshmobs less annoying? does it feel rewarding to pop heads?
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>>543940957
We're activating eagle storm before they take it. Nothing ever happens
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>>543943706
It's very cheap. it's why so many streamers got caught viewbotting thousands of views on twitch and why Elon was asking for twitter's price to be reduced before the final purchase because too much traffic was fraudulent.
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>>543944171
Vote it off the world
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Ok, ‘the big patch’ came out. It’s…. Fine? At least not a direct disaster, because we keep the bar high here.
Maybe we go back to digbugs on oshaune in a day or 2. Liberty day cape in 2 days big whoop.
Now what?
Wait another month for the next warbond? What a snooze.
Maybe I am just over it. Every fucking game nowadays is just a cycle of rage and waiting for a momentary relief.
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>>543944410
Waiting for the new bot stuff + warbond
Probably next month
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doing bug missions sucks so much ass because you get paired with literal toddlers speaking on the mic who cannot comprehend the concept of working as a team
>inb4 play solo
this is a co-op game, if I wanted to play alone i'd be playing other games
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>>543943706
Dank you saar good business doings with you, very big reddit votes many comments, please come again
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>>543944148
no lmao. they lowered the health by 1000, but they increased the durability of everything which was a nerf to everything except explosives that already killed them easily
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>>543944410
It's a game saving patch, you can tell by the player numbers and the general positivity
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>>543944562
I think... You need to stop playing games aimed at toddlers if you don't enjoy playing with toddlers.
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>>543934291
Full again
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>>543944627
But now it takes 2 less rounds from a Liberator to kill a fleshmob! We did it, Reddit!
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>>543942258
After watching eravins vid and the last year of AH talking heads sperging out in public view online, I now just assume every rude faggot spewing ad homs at well-spoken genuine criticism of the game is an AH employee.

Kinda like how every time there's a terrorist attack I just assume it's israel. Even if it's not, you're going to be right 90% of the time.
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>>543944562
stop playing on mo planets
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>>543945001
They're such passive aggressive little dweebs, and this entire patch is their most passive aggressive act against the playerbase yet. They're such fucking dickless cowards. I'd respect them if they'd just come out and told people, "No, we're building the game WE want," and just left it at that. Not this, "we are learning how to be better (liars)" bullshit.
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>>543945247
this

I don't care about the content of the nerfs, I care that they're slimy little fucking rats.
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>>543944634
>It's a game saving patch
game still runs like hot garbage and now it freezes my computer at times which it hadn't been doing before, what exactly about this patch is "game saving"? it's literally exactly the same as before
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>>543911505
This is only true if you actually target the core repeatedly. Ironically I'd say they have MORE main HP if you target the core.
However if you actually pop heads they only have 3000~ health. Which means if you shoot the heads they are substantially easier to kill.
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>>543945568
Reddit says it's a game-saving patch so it is
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>>543931831
Hipster eruptor now.
Shits busted. Control group is almost a solid warbond right now.
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>>543945568
He means that it achieved it's goal of tricking the playerbase, or at least a portion of it.
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modern gamers deserve modern games
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>>543944627
You're forgetting that shooting the heads now do extra damage to mobs. It's a very noticeable decrease in ttk with the hmg going after the heads.
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>Nuke Nursery objective can still glitch out
okay so WHAT did you actually fix you gigakike faggots?????????
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What's the new armor do?
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>>543929095
>Get flag buff
>Only works on liberty day
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>>543944627
They only increased the durability of the core. You effectively deal double damage now if you go for heads.
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>>543946201
thats what you get for being a bugchaser
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>>543942613
Meds
>>543945001
>>543945247
You should just suck off each other
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>>543946402
No, you don't. Only like half the heads deal extra damage and the other ones offset the extra damage by having extra durable.
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>>543946402
Only some of them, and it's only 150% damage to main. Only while the heads are there. And it doesn't matter because the META for the fucking things is still going full Megumin on them.
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>>543946469
bots have been nerfed too many times and are now too easy, sorry
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>>543946621
Then play squids or stop crying.
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>>543946551
And you should suck off Alexus.
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>>543946551
Sorry, but homophobia is against the law in Sweden. Contacting your local authorities. Prepare for the surstromming.
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If anything, wouldn't we get so motivated and democratic during liberty day that our liberation progress gets doubled all across the board?
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>>543946762
I am not homophobic i think you are valid
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>>543946330
I just really don't understand it
why the FUCK is the CD still so long
it should be competing with EATs
I just wanna plant a flag at every captured base
not keep one shoved up my ass for 8 minutes waiting for the perfect moment
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>>543946897
You gotta think of the balance, man. Just think about what you could accomplish by calling in a flag every minute.
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>>543946897
CHEW
SLOWER
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Even if we lose Hellmire we'll have a whole week to recapture it because we do fuck all on liberty day
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>>543946713
also too easy thougheverbeit
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>>543946564
If you shoot heads only they have 3333 hp
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>tk'd and dog stolen
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>>543946897
>I want to plant flags everywhere
>He can't appreciate thrusting his flag in at the right moment.
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>>543946248
If I had to guess, probably some shit like silencing your footsteps and give throwing range to compliment the stealth and C4 support
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>>543947210
The real issue is that it doesn't change the ratio of effectiveness between small arms and explosives. They BOTH kill quicker, which just makes a flak AC even more attractive to take.
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>Try a pub game
>Host is a fucking retard and kills everyone near the end of the game while waiting for the pelican to land
>"????"
>Host: "everyone die"
So anyway does anyone want to play?
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we're going to eagle storm hellmire right? i really don't want to go back there for the 20th time
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>>543947426
>Hard counter counters harder, if you feel like taking it
Can't say I hate it.
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>>543947715
You don't have to go. Joel will figure it out and you will get your medals anyway.
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I wonder if grenades are substantially better at killing flesh pounds. Specially pineapple.
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>>543946853
Naw we just blow up a planet (hellmire), and go into a post liberty nutt coma for the day.
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Is it worth reinstalling or nah?
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>>543947383
That sounds really boring and unimaginative so you're probably right.
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>>543947383
The armor honestly has to carry the pack. Otherwise this is going to turn into cop warbond 2.0

>>543948123
It runs better and the sound is fixed.
If you have like 2000 hours the buffs aren't really substantial content to care.
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>>543947937
no. not at all
pineapple got worse at it in fact because they removed the small shrapnel that was doing majority of the damage
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>>543947157
then quit crying
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>Everything is harder to set on fire
How's the flamethrower after this patch? the coyote was a better flamethrower anyways because it actually pushed shit back instead of just setting things on fire and letting them casually walk up to you to set YOU on fire before they died
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>>543948538
>The pineapple change is technically also a debuff
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wtf I just got a mission ranking called "Gallantry beyond measure"
that's gotta be new, right? I have never seen that in almost a thousand hours
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So did the patch really do nothing besides nerf bots?
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>>543949474
some PC configurations went from crashing to "only" freezing.
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>>543949474
I do get marginally better frames, and the day before the patch I was crashing incessantly which hasn't happened yet.
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>>543948975
They gave it more ammo. Wasn't that nice of them? :)
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>>543948538
bait used to believable
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>>543949809
Ah, so more bugs on fire can walk up to me and set my anus on fire before they die
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>Avoiding damage with bots
>Breaking los

>How to avoid damage with bugs
>Put on light armour and sprint away
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>>543940993
GGs.
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>>543950104
Especially since fire got nerfed. Fun.
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>ixed an issue with the B-100 Portable Hellbomb stratagem sometimes falling on Cave roofs in the "Destroy Spore Lung" mission
holy shit it only took like...two months?
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>>543949474
Warstrider change is unironically a nothing burger outside railgun users
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>>543950153
>Complains about predditor strain being able to outrun your shitter light fag ass and ohk you
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>YOU GUYS ARE HAVING TOO MUCH FUN WITH THE COYOTE!!!
>But fine we wont nerf the Coyote :)
>All enemies made more resistant to fire, fire does less damage
I am so sick of the goddamn swedish holy fucking shit. Kill all of them
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>>543951139
you wont notice the difference
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>>543951187
>B-BUT YOU WON'T EVEN NOTI-ACCKKKK
It's the fact they lied. The fact they hid these changes.
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>strategems breaking and being unusable for the rest of the mission
>black bars at the top and bottom of the screen blocking everything when I join a game
Nice bugfix patch
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>>543951062
>bugchaser takes basic strats as a personal offense
>again
why are they so small?
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>spears not buffed
Do they thing these are good or what?
Also they should buff bayonets when we are at it
t. Amendmentfag
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>>543950104
Enemies on fire don't set you on fire. It's walking backwards when firing, for some reason this lights the ground directly beneath you on fire due to swede jank
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>>543951251
they didnt hide them theyre literally in the patch notes
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>>543951139
Is that the half-robutt?
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>>543951251
should have read the patchnotes
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>>543951285
Um have you considered that it's your fault? :3c
>t.glazediver
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If your post is all lower-case it doesn't count and I don't read it. Cry about it tranny zoomer newfaggots.
>>543951456
Yes.
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>>543951347
Auto-aim means god tier for swiggers instead of the janky ineffective piece of shit that makes the gun worse to use that it actually is
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Why didnt they use his likeness for John Helldiver? Or would that have been too on the nose and bordering copyright infringement?
Hes super enthusiastic about his role in Starship Troopers and I kinda feel bad hes trapped in shitty games.
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>>543951652
I ment the melee spears akshually hence bayonet mention
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>>543949474
nerfed the fuck out of the machine gun turrets
practically useless now
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>>543951674
Actors have no say. The corpo suits would say no even if knew about HD2 and wanted to be in it.
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>>543950153
>people laugh that light armor is the only way to play bugs and that heavy armor is useless against them for a year and a half
>introduce the burrowing enemy you "can't dodge" and can't outrun who coincidentally only tickles you if you're in heavy armor
>NONONONONONO THIS CAN'T BEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAA THERE SHOULDN'T BE REASONS TO RUN OTHER ARMOR TYPES AGAINST THE BUGS WHAT THE FUUUUCKKKKK AAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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>>543951854
>>543951291
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>>543950153
Or
Kill them
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>>543951623
>If your post is all lower-case it doesn't count and I don't read it.
This but upper-case.
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I hate the swedish so goddamn fucking bad holy shit man
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>>543951674
It's Walmart Starship Troopers, so they used Walmart Casper Van Dien as John Helldiver for the same reason they used Walmart Keith David for the Democracy Officer.
I think it works out better this way.
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>>543952012
Game must be wild on D4
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>>543951734
The taser lance is the only good melee weapon since it reaches further than 10 feet, which is saying very little since even hoplitemaxxing with peak physique and the shield is mediocre at best
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>>543952115
In Sweden, you can get a light sentence if the judge claims the rape wasnt long enough.
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>>543952196
Being incapable of killing a charger through the foreleg kinda ruined the spear. Fucking Swedes.
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>>543951139
Troon
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>>543950153
Bots cant hit you
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>>543952495
I saw that news article. It enraged me. We need to excommunicate the swedish. They refuse to do work and when they do actually do any work, it's all lies and bait-and-switches.
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reminder that the coomer newfag you're arguing with has 30 hours of playtime
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>>543952184
>Light armor retard talking about playing low diff
Lol
Lmao
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>>543950153
>Breaking los
not needed
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>>543952901
>>543952679
Consider: >>543951291
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>"N-NO!! TH-THATS WRONG! YOU DONT RUN FROM BUGS! YOU RUN AT THEM AND LET THEM HIT YOU!!! YOU HAVE 20 REINFORCEMENTS! USE THEM!"
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>>543953109
Just kill them
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>>543952901
I saw a clip of gameplay near launch when bots were "hard" and it was the same fucking shit, except there was a billion more gunships
They hit once in a blue moon
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>>543952901
so when are we getting private server binaries to restore launch difficulty
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>>543953182
>>543952184
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>>543953192
>admitting you weren't there
opinion discarded
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>>543953192
you saw a clip
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>Buff some weapons
>Joel has a fucking psychotic mental breakdown
>Mobs have higher durability to compensate
Yep I'm out. Uninstalled. Fuck this goddamn company and fuck the swedish.
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>>543924519
>we're so fucking back
We're not back, you just have Stockholm syndrome
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more like /hrt/
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>>543953303
No, I've played D10 since it released and D9 before that. Just kill them. You don't need to run away from bugs
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>>543953697
bufftrannies HATE difficulty
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>>543951674
I heard the starship troopers fps got updated recently. Did they unfuck that one?
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>>543953816
sure thing, bro.
run along now and do whatever you d4s do.
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>>543953769
he vandalized the OP with redditor jokes. he's probably an xboxtard who just picked up the game
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I prefer d5.
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Eravin sounded like he's had his soul sucked out in his last video, dude's probably on suicide watch right now.
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>>543954559
dont care
didnt ask
buy an ad
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>>543901984
I forgot to post this
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>>543954737
failed to join
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>>543955007
try again?
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>>543955087
Failed again, no idea. gonna verify files I guess.
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>>543954737
>>543955203
Its failing to connect for me too
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>>543954737
>timed out
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>>543954559
He can suck my soul out
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>>543954559
>he's had his soul sucked out
How the tables have turned
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>>543955203
>>543955293
>>543955305
i hate this finnicky swigger made game so much its unreal.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243882179592/76561198006804493
Last try, crossplay off, if it doesnt work one of you host
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>>543955418
F*LL
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>>543953769
>you just have Stockholm syndrome
I know. Knowing doesn't help. No other game scratches this itch like Helldiver 2 for me. I am open to suggestions.
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>>543946201
your fault for playing a c*ve or c*ty map
perfectly good hellmire open RN
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>>543955775
https://www.playdarktide.com/
Return home
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>>543955775
there is nothing out there like this game thats why it was able to separate from coopg because it is a different experience than those games.
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>>543955775
>>543955941
Genuinely pisses me off how arrowhead treats helldivers 2 as some cute little pet project like their past games and not something truly special special.
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>>543924949
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>>543955913
NTA, but Helldivers and Darktide don't scratch the same itch at all.
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>>543955913
>More DLC classes
How about SOME FUCKING LEVELS???
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>>543956256
They just did.
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So lets see. Bugs have
>Predditor Strain
>Diggers
>Reddit Lord
>Asmongold
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>>543925913
I don't get it. We have smoke grenades??
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>Bugs are annoying and reddit coded
>Squids are unfinished and sameyboring
>Bots are cool but cause lag, stutters, freezes
:/
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Is there some esoteric knowledge to correctly dodge dragon breath or is it another swedish genius game design moment?
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>>543956725
Bots are cool but babymode.
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>>543954559
I mean yeah dude. He made HD2 his entire online identity, only for it all his hopes and dreams to come crashing down. He even retired his Helldiver vtuber avatar.
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>>543956820
>bugchaser feels the need to tell everyone how small his dick is
>again
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>>543956803
Didn't they fix it's spitting attack to be more dodgeable? I barely get hit now, just jump the moment they do that attack
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>>543956887
Seethe, nigger.
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>>543956294
Actual levels or more horde shit?
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>>543951251
what would have been telling the truth to you? literally typing out "nerfed coyote" in the patch notes?
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>botshitter can't handle reality
>again
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>>543955913
>hey /hdg/, I'm a recovering crack addict, any suggestions?
>have you tried weaning yourself off crack with crystal meth? First one's free! :)
Hmmm, I dunno...
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>>543957102
The fact they said we are not nerfing the coyote and then buffed enemy fire resistance, made fire weaker and buffed enemy durability is the swedish way to lie
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>>543957070
>>543957118
Consider: >>543956887
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>PLEASE pay attention to my extremely low quality hurt feelings post THIS TIME, I would REALLY like some (You)s :(
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>>543956725
>"annoying"
you mean hard, lower the difficulty, wait you already did since you play bot
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>>543957303
>>543957279
Consider: >>543956887
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>>543957194
Consider: >>543957070
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>>543938878
>dev heads still pop
>warriors die in 1 extra bullet
waow
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>>543957173
swiggers are like genies that are lame and gay. TECHNICALLY they didn't nerf the coyote, they nerfed all fire which INDIRECTLY lessens the dps of the coyote. surstromming fin instead of monkeys paw
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Bots have the Creek
Squids have the Beach
Bugs have literally nothing.
Zero. Cultural. Footprint.
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>>543956852
>Eravin has suffered twink death
And it's all Arrowheads fault. I hate Sweden.
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I shoot just (You), yes (You) with my defender. Now please stay still and wait 4 business days for the bullet to hit
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>ad hominem with 0 comebacks
consider your concession accepted, botshitter
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>>543957490
>nerfed all fire
Flamethrower bros..........
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>>543957441
>bugchaser trying to pretend thats exclusive to bots
Consider: >>543957194
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>>543956852
>dropped his vtuber avatar
holy shit why the fuck would anyone use those unless its a women to bait weebs to watch them
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>>543957497
Bugs do have a planet. You've been defending and liberating it for months, no, a year now. I'm diving on it right now. We'll still be diving on it next year too, and the years after that.
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>bugchaser gets mad at ad hominem
>again
>look inside
>bugchaser using ad hominems
bugchasers can dish it but cant take it.
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>>543957497
>"DUDEEEE LE CREEK DUDEE LMAOOO"
holy reddit, truly a reddit faction
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>>543956852
>Genuinely enjoys Helldivers
>Gets burnt out by the shitty state of the game and constant dev swiggery
Relatable.
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>>543957823
>Muh MO planet
Bitch that aint yours. Thats Joels. The Creek and Beach were 100% community driven. Joel didnt have anything to do with it.
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>>543957709
>doesn't kill it
Concession accepted.
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Lemme get this right, /hdg/ is committed to the bot front?
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>>543958043
>No lvl 40 invasion to stop the Beach from being captured
Joel let the beach happen.
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>>543957919
You sound jealous.
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>>543958093
>outranging bots ontop of a hill with jetpack is OP
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>>543958093
>moved the goalpost
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>use Defender
>tat-tat-tat-tat
>ah-... I can... R-really feel the damage boost o-oh gosh those bugs are getting close and *gulp* there sure are a lot of them o-oh-
>REINFORCEMENT INCOMING
>libcarb user has arrived
>H-HEY! Helldiver th-thank liberty i-
>BRRRRRT
>wo- wha-
>BRRRRRT BRRRRRRRRRT BRRRRR-click
>oh! I'll cover you while you're re-
>click, snap, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
>o-oh...
>Solved your problem.
>t-tha-
>Might wanna reload before the next wave. I'm calling in an FRV. Get in the gun, I'm driving.
>*blushes* y-yes sir
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youd think bugdivers would have really strong arms considering all they do is move goalposts all day long.
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>>543958112
Yep, bot used to be the "Contrarian" faction, but after a series of nerfs they've become a joke, literally braindead easy so much so even bug are harder and the trannies here literally can not accept that they are now wrong. If you press them hard enough they will proceed to mumble something like "OOOGGA BOOGA ARROWHEAD WILL BUFF THE BOT SOON, JUST 2 MORE WEEKS J-JUST YOU SEE BUGCHUD!"
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My Scythe and Laser Cannon are too slow
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>>543958560
you are mindbroken
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>>543958560
No i mean are we all committed to diving on fenmire or something
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>smgs now have 1.20 drag
what does it mean exactly, do they get outranged by shotguns now or do their bullets drop faster than shotgun pellets?
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>>543958310
>jetpack
eh oh el
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>lowered Main health by -1000
>but buffed durable on every body part by 15%
>effectively making fleshmob being 5000 HP anyways

NUKE SWEDEN
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>>543958885
>The close range enemy is.... LE BAD AT RANGED????
woah.....
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>>543958872
it means their damage falls off faster
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>>543958872
They lose speed faster. Which has the effect of them having more drop at range, and reducing damage at range because damage scales with speed.
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>>543958940
>heads now transfer 150% of damage
shoot those unless... you cant aim?
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>>543959002
Can't get the Tanto soon enough
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>the bugchaser is frantically looking for clips to "pwn" the botdivers in his head
>again
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>>543958945
>xhe keeps trying to cope
sister...
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>>543959310
kek: >>543959197
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>>543959197
>>543959310
Guccisisters...
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>>543959310
>another 1v1 clip
woah....
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I love that every single clip of "muh enemy has been trivialized" arguments always have like, at max 3 of that enemy on screen at once, usually just one by itself. Yeah no shit Sherlock no single enemy in this game is threatening barring maybe a hive lord. If nothing else is harassing you, any heavy in the game becomes trivial.
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>>543952901
modded session, you can see shrieker spawners in the distance
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>>543959542
You now understand what "cherry picking" means
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>>543958940
>effectively making fleshmob being 5000 HP anyways
Its 6000 but yeah, the bullshit change to durable still stands.
pretty much every "buff" from the patch note has a "gotcha" change, i think the only change that was without that is the war strider weakpoints lmao
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>>543959664
timestamp?
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>>543959535
>proceeds to post a video of himself bullying a lone Charger to own le bugchuds
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>>543959542
If you can instakill those heavies and they spawn in low numbers to begin with then yes they were trivialized (Factory Striders, tanks, War Striders, Impalers, Dragonroaches, Gunships, etc etc)
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Has the passive of the new armor been leaked yet?
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>>543959664
That's a planet.
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>>543959742
40% More Disappointment
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>>543954559
Call me when there's more R34 of his fag ass getting railed by niggers, otherwise I do not care
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>bugchaser mad he got read like a book and is resorting to racism
>again
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>>543959817
idk if that's physically possible
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>>543959817
Sweet! Grunt fantasy fulfilled.
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>>543959664
There's always some burning clouds in Vernen Wells-type planets
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As someone who used to play bot a lot I have to say Arrowhead have done a number on them, they are no longer threating, if the bot were as fast and mobile as the bugs they could still be hard but no.
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>>543959828
MORE R34 you say?
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>>543960004
Bot hounds any day now...
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>>543960004
ummm xister the bots not being difficult doesn't fit the narrative take this down please...
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>>543960090
They'll come pre-nerfed if they ever do. See: jet brigade
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>>543959715
the AMR buffs are real and heterosexual
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>so buckbroken that he gave up on replying and is just shitposting now
Another victory for the right side of history.
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>bugchaser not even talking about the game anymore
>again
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>>543960291
Yes they are, too bad they didnt fix the ergonomics bug and the misaligned scope, which means its still shit to use compared to railgun
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>all of this started because some swedish retard put orbital shrapnel on the eruptor
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>you have to find the weakspot on the bugs to kill them effectively
>bot just outright tell you where to shoot them thanks to the glowing body parts
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why are bugchasers trying to act like the head isnt the weakpoint for bugs now?
are they really this desperate?
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hmm, today I will play the game
>no lobbies
hmm, today I will not play the game
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>>543960560
Everything dies if I just Railgun it enough, weakpoint or not, so this is irrelevant.
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>>543960695
lobby machine broke
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>>543960692
It's actually faster to kill a charger with AP4 weapon by shooting their front legs than their head, bottard
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>>543960543
>nerf weapons because a bug makes everything not work like intended (PS5 damage multiplication)
>buff weapons because a bug makes everything not work like intended (DoT bug)
It was always Swedish lazyness
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>now the bugchasers are trying to "flex" their weird esoteric knowledge that doesnt matter
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All factions are easy because you didn't listen to nerfGODS.
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>>543961027
nta but bragging about being retarded is always a solid basis for an argument and you shouldn't let anyone tell you otherwise
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>>543961097
it we listened to nerftrannies the game would have the same player count as tide games.
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You should have known your place to be honest. I mean what can even kill you on this faction after they gutted the turret ragdoll.
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>>543961179
nobody shoots the legs, bugchaser. unlike you, i actually play the game. and 99% of the time people blow out the ass or shoot the head
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>>543961193
>nerf cope saga
>above 100k
>buff crutch saga
>below 30k
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>>543961193
Nope.
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>>543961325
that's not even the correct turret gucci
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>>543961463
And now this is the part you start malding out and try to completely derail the entire point because you lost.
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>>543961578
No need to, the game still had many shitty lows after ebin buffs
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>>543961578
>Dead hours higher than current dead hours
Thanks for proving me right?
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>>543961697
>And it just so happens that the playercount is higher now after the buffs
Thats crazy, dawg.
>>543961756
>"Whats a downward trend???"
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>>543961756
dude give it a rest, botniggers are not used to their enemy fighting back, so they don't really understand how to proceed
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De-Escalator still feels meh, even though it's impossible to kill yourself with it now that the electricity never arcs to you.
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>Suppressor warbond is actually happening
I wish there was a bolt sniper but ill take a rifle too
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>>543961891
>bugchaser STILL seething from that hard read
the raped
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lobber dokker
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>>543961578
>PC
50k daily
100k on warbonds
300k on major updates

No other coop shooters get those numbers period.
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>>543961940
>Suppressor Warbond happens
>Swedes pull a miracle and actually fix sound and stealth so it all works
>make a bunch of new missions related to stealth
>every MO for the next 2 months is stealth-mission-based
>all suppressor weapons are behind paid warbonds
sneaky jews...
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>>543959742
Its probably the same as the halo armor. To give a cheaper way to get the stealth effect.
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>>543961825
Every patch brings a bunch of players back for a short moment (this one was fairly anemic in that regard but still).
We still had sub 15k player moments after 60 day patch.
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>>543962101
Yeah, and we wouldnt have had those if we listened to nerftrannies
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>>543962149
Im fine with it. The optional nature of all the dlc is fine as long as the free updates continue to be as often/large as they are.

Shit like Darktide or DRG flopped because their update cycles sucked. At least helldivers is predictable and you can grind the currency ingame.
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>He abuses the infinite supply pack buff
Bro, that pack is already a crutch. Just HOW shitty are you??????
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>tfw you were spamming EATs and Supply Packs from the start while everyone was stuck on the AC or their shitty baby crutch bubble pack
Feels good to be intelligent and ahead of the curve.
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>>543962000
>gets btfo by webm posting
>"I know, you're going to post another wemb again, right? Heh....Damn I'm good"
Is this bait? You can't possibly be this retarded. Then again, you're a botdiver, so nothing is impossible.
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>>543963387
Consider: >>543962000
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>Nice sentry. Would be a shame if i spawned the instant you threw down the beacon.
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>>543963461
Consider: >>543958093
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>>543963851
what are you, stupid? just throw it on top of a rock where they can't reach it
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>>543963327
>tfw you were spamming EATs and Supply Packs from the start while everyone was stuck on the AC or their shitty baby crutch bubble pack so you know how much of a crutch they are
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>>543963851
I'm pretty sure I've seen the Hive Lord pop up and eat my Mech as it's being delivered by Pelican-2. This game does this shit on purpose 100%.
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>>543963985
>gem bounces
what now big boy
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>>543963985
>*bounces for no reason*
>now its in a shitty location that will accomplish nothing
tee hee!
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>>543964074
that doesn't happen
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I am still mad that we didn't get dark energy weapons
where's my arcane beams, dammit!
I wanna implode when I overload my gun
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>>543962261
They oughta combine the reduced noise profile of the ODST armor with the visual range reduction of scout.
The R72 Censor (Justice) should be med pen because it would make the justice poster happy. Also 2 light pen primaries in a warbond is lame.
C4 should be demo force 40 and have enough damage to kill every heavy in the game with one charge, or at least be able to do so when placed on a weakpoint. If the damn thing takes up your backpack and stratagem slot and you have to toss it onto the enemy, it better kill shit good.
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>>543964160
teach me your secrets anon who doesn't have his gems bounce
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>>543963985
>
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>>543964041
Correct
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What support weapon even works on Dragonroaches
I thought Autocannon would be choice because it's a fast firing high damage explosive round but it really does fuckall other than maybe stun them if they feel like letting you
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>>543964267
>>543964273
nah that must be a skill issue, there's no way Arrowhead would intentionally code something like that
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>>543964273
Me when I try to throw a Hellbomb down next to a Stratagem Jammer but the game just says fuck you apparently for no reason.
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>>543964429
their wings, their weakpoint, is literally 4k hp. Grab an emancipator or team up with another AT diver
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>>543964429
Ultimatum.
>but I said suppo-
Ultimatum.
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>>543964190
uoooh die nigger die nigger spell
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>>543964627
x4 wings or would blowing up one or two work
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>>543964836
>uoooh
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>>543964973
UUOOOOHHHHHHH GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED GET LIBERATED!!!!!
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>autocannon buff
>plasma punisher buff
>dynamite buff
This is my patch! It was made for me!
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>plasma punisher buff
>burrowiggers aren't back yet
USELESS
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>>543965214
Dynamite feels really good to use now.
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>plaspun "buff"
>same amount of shots to kill any medium enemy
>still negative ammo economy
idgi
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>>543965347
>can just use it to great effect on any bug
USEFVLL
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>>543965831
>same amount of shots to kill any medium enemy
I mean, that's wrong, but okay.
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>>543965850
eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
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>>543965943
Yeah sometimes it's more, explosive resistance and all that
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BUFF SHOTGUNS
BUFF SOLO SILO (FOR REAL)
BUFF HMG
ADD SPACE MISSIONS
ADD SKYBRIDGES AND TOWERS TO MEGACITIES
ADD FULL ILLUMINATE ROSTER AND MORE UNITS
ADD GAS GIANT PLANETS
ADD APC
ADD TANK
ADD BIKE
ADD ARMOR PAINT
ADD MISSING STRATAGEMS
ADD STRATAGEM CUSTOMIZATION
ADD STRATAGEM LOADOUTS
ADD 12 PLAYER MISSIONS
DELETE DURABLE DAMAGE
DELETE ARMOR PEN SYSTEM
DELETE GAMEGUARD
DELETE DUPLICATE ASSETS
DELETE JOEL
DELETE SCAMS
DELETE INDIA
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>>543966498
>BUFF SHOTGUNS
gib m1897 trench gun rip off pl0x, akFAGS got their meme gun gimmie mine i'm tired of using a KSG rip off for 90% of the shootganz in da game
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>>543939459
The projectile didn't do any damage before.
They made it actually do the advertised damage instead of half.
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>>543966884
Don't know which shittertube told you that but no, you were able to deal damage with the projectile. That's like saying you can't hit with the GL or ABRL projectile
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>Unlocked the Arc Grenade Launcher
>Round Reload that takes forever
>Doesnt feel like it can kill anything other than chaff
Can i get a refund on my medals, who the fuck would use this over the normal nade launcher?
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>>543959310
>shoot and stagger its eye
>WHY DOESN'T IT IMMEDIATELY BEAM ME
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>>543966987
Dataminers on the wiki said it and they were the only ones who knew about the stealth nerfs like the HMG getting a huge durable damage decrease. The only faggots here that tried to argue otherwise was the webm shitposter
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>>543966987
The projectile exploded before hitting its target because it has always been proximity triggered. Even if the projectile was given damage, you could never directly hit anything with it because it explodes before contact.
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>>543967091
>shoot and stagger its eye
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>>543967175
wrong
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>>543958940
>except the head bits
>which are 150% to main

>>543961325
>You can dodge attacks
next you'll post that you can stand perfectly still against gunships. (ignoring the fact if you start moving they hit you.)
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>>543967143
So? It's not true
>>543967175
The ABRL is proximity triggered too, so?
Do you people even play the game
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>>543966987
Direct observation of damage values into targets showed this to me.
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>>543964273
>not testing every sentry spot with a reinforce beacon first
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>>543967351
You didn't observe anything, you barely used the weapon to begin with, you just accepted some literallywho's take
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>>543967262
what's it like being so buck brokingly retarded.
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>>543967326
did you watch the patchnotes video or did you believe someone who didn't watch it either
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If this patch was about buffing light pen, why did they ignore the amendment? In fact they virtually stealth nerfed it.
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>>543967501
It's one of my mains
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I love it when I take a shit and I don't even have to push very hard it just nicely slips out
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>>543967326
The ABRL has a delay to its proxy fuse
The PP's is instant
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>>543967692
That's way too easy, God should nerf that.
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>>543967532
It's the webm shitposter anon. They've been pushing misinfo disguised as fact checking. Arguing is pointless. AH already admitted the proximity explosion made the direct hit damage not apply by changing it.
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>>543967692
my favorite is going on runs and coming home with a sweaty ass it's like a lubed chute for it all
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>>543961903
They need to give it gas and smoke grenades
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>>543966043
its alright against bugs now 1 less shot for every bug is pretty nice especially 1 shotting hunters
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>>543967935
>instead of making it good, just give it various grenade types to launch
>probably include flame nades in there too
hmmmmm.... MITE b kewl...
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>>543967692
I read this shitpost while shitting still am
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>>543968190
AH, please nerf this anon by giving him constipation.
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>>543968190
I hope you brought your Toilet Supply Pack...
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>>543968478
My robutt cleans my ass for me
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>>543968569
>tfw no robofu to rim your asshole clean after a cheeky t bell run
sweet liberty, noo...
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>>543967904
Real but it sucks when you have sweaty cheeks and you have to sit on the seat, so you stew in the sweat while you shit
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>>543968764
>try to prefire my shit
>asscheeks too sweaty
>slide off the seat
>back is against the bowl now
>ass parallel to ground
>shit already on the way
>can't stop because being able to cancel my poop would be OP and nerftroons took it away from me
>now my bathroom wall is painted brown
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durable damage is a bad system
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>>543968967
Durable damage is a tool
A tool Arrowhead uses wrong because they are retarded.
If they used Durable to make light weapons good at fucking up the weak points on heavy enemies, giving light weapons a role in killing heavies, while leaving Mediums to kill standard enemies better, this could work.
If they used Durable to make Anti-tank weapons mediocre at splashing small or mediums, this could be good.
They only use Durable to make you use anti tank, or the fistful of explosive weapons that ignore it, at all times constantly.
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/hdg/ - shit and piss general
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>>543969289
So, Helldivers general?
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>we were winning hellmire before when we had 17k divers
>now we have 38k and we're losing
this system stinks
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>>543969289
>shit
bots
>piss
bugs
>
squids
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>>543967692
>>543968190
>shitposting
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>>543967532
I watched it. AH "Orbital Airburst shrapnel for the Eruptor" "Killing Chargers with it was unreliable so we made it consistenly worse" "Let's try to kill this BT with the AC" "We test on D4" devs opinions are worthless
>>543967762
It's not. You can hit directly with it at AP3 and see the ricochet/no penetration icon appear
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>>543957982
Makes you fucking wonder what was going through their heads when they did that chicken little high school mean girls act towards him. The dude lived and breathed your game, had friends all over the online youtuber/streamer community who are all on his side over this, and reached millions of eyes daily.
It fucking boggles my mind how these people can act this way. It's a level of arrogance and haughtiness that I thought Swedes were supposed to be against, but this is the most egregious display of it I've ever seen. Even down to just straight up lying every time they were confronted by it by even the CCs they invited to the program.
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>>543960543
It goes further back. It's because some Swedish retard nerfed the shit out of the railgun because of a bug, then told people to pound sand.
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>>543969517
>cum
squids
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>fix bug to make weapon deal full damage?
>no, don't fix bug, nerf weapon and say it now deals "more" damage
>do it a bunch more times because redditors are retarded
incredibly funny to see it each time
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d10 bots
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>>543970414
It's a losing battle because AHS (and all games, really) these days have dedicated online defense forces that will gaslight the shit out of everyone who complains about anything no matter how serious, or well-documented an issue is. I think Redditors and the Discord just gave up and got completely conquered by glazers. Just this place and Steam still fight back, but on Steam you'll get banned for next to nothing and support doesn't give a shit.
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>>543970105
>some Swedish retard
Him. It's always him. Always has been from the very beginning. You know who. He who must not be named. Buff Buster, Crutch Cruncher, Fixer of Fun, god of game design, The Bringer of Balance.
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>>543970780
Optimized Super Destroyer armor stand
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>>543970551
3/4, CMON
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>>543970817
Always remember
This was the charlatan that ruined Hello Neighbor 2.
Not that Hello Neighbor is anything worth remembering in dignity, merely that this man was brought onto a project in need of direction, and he proceeded to destroy it. Just ripped it to shreds, to suit whatever manic flights of autistic fantasy struck in the moment.
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>Moved the first person camera further away from the MS-11 Solo Silo's Target Designator scope
Why don't they do the opposite for the AMR and RG scope
Fucking Sweden man, what the hell?
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>>543970551
3/4 Get the fuck in
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>>543968121
I should clarify: I meant gas+smoke as a two-in-one as a sort of tear gas. This is already a really good combo in the game right now since it fucks with the AI perfectly, and stunning first when using a movement backpack is a guaranteed escape.

Id rather a separate GL for fire so they could give it napalm. Maybe something based off the XM25 that airbursts mini NEATs or a China Lake that just hits really hard.
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>>543967527
whats it like being the raped?
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squids are the only fun faction to fight
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>>543971521
This but unfortunately and completely unironically
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>>543971616
MAH DRILLZ
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>>543971521
Yeah sometimes you're tired and just want to sleep, squids D10 help me with that
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Why does this game have so many retarded dad gamers? Same exact scenario every time I get stuck with these idiots.
>Join in/they join
>Instantly hear a kids voice through their comms
>Beta dad gamer "Hey buddy (every single one says buddy) go blah blah in blah blah with mom/the dog/your sibling dads gamin!
>Their counterpart retarded friend makes some lame comment about the dad gamer they know IRL
>Dad gamer asks stupid questions about the game despite being level 50+
>Dies constantly
Shit is a plague.
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>>543970927
i swear to god join now dont make me post it 3/4
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Sometimes I'm about to click on lobby links and then the host posts some faggot shit which makes me glad I was hesitating. Maybe it's some anti-fag instinct
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>>543971769
huh. interesting
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>>543970927
fvll
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god I love these new body suits
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>>543971996
Thanks. I will give you a reach around next time.
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>>543972126
You have no taste
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>>543959047
>>543967304
>just get head bro
25% and 40% durable
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>>543972338
You have a whole 2 extra points of durable damage now, enjoy :^)
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>>543970105
Immediate knee-jerk nerfs now. Begrudging buffs months later (after vacation, of course). This is the Arrowhead way.
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>>543972126
>Armor reduces damage to the chest
>Chest is completely unarmored
Immersion ruined.
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>>543972338
>durability of the heads is unchanged from pre-patch
shoot the heads
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>>543970817
It's so fucking amazing that this idiot thought this was a good idea. But you need to look into spiteful mutant theory and it all make sense. Some people (freaks, low quality males, cripples, retards) have some innate instinctual drive to fuck everything up, and fuck everyone over.

But this is the absolute peak of where this game's devs fucked up the hardest, and the game never truly recovered from it. Why it lost the vast majority of it's initial popularity, and 90% of the people who played back then will never come back. It was their first attempt at META busting. Problem is that this wasn't the META. It was the OETA. The ONLY EFFECT TACTIC AVAILABLE. Goddamn dumbfuck swedes. We're 17 warbonds in now, so people have options they didn't have back then. But the issue, and the solution was always to make the worthless weapons suck less. But this retard has always been incapable of understanding this. Which is why we see this horse shit like we saw with the last patch; "buff" weapons, while actually nerfing them through roundabout ways.

Breaker/RG/Bubble wasn't even a massively popular build. Yeah there were youtubers using it to solo D9, but that was an infinitesimally small minority of people out of millions who could do that. It was the 'Appease Tigole' approach, and it's never been a smart way of doing online game content/balancing.
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>>543972650
>It was vastly over-performing in how safe it was to use and how convenient it was, not requiring a backpack or assistance to be effective, and not requiring risk to take out even larger armored targets.
>...So we made it weaker altogether instead of putting any effort into implementing said unique disadvantages
History of this piece of shit studios
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>>543970817
>Talks about stale meta due to OP guns
>Releases the fucking coyote as a P2W weapon
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>>543970105
>>543970817
>>543972650
Don't forget about the arcthrower slapping BTs across the map.
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>>543973052
Dust Devils was an outsourced warbond btw.
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>>543973132
>Only fun warbond in fucking months was outsourced
I believe you senpai desu
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The buff to fire dot for bug is just straight horrible, now you need to unload the whole cookout mag just to make a stalker or commander catch a fire and by the that time they've already been dead by the pellet
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>>543973058
>dogshit useless weapon only good for bullying bug chaff
>but it's actually fun to bully bug chaff with it
>"lets make it take a year to spool up, and drop the range down to 30 meters"
Between that, the Eruptor nerf, and thermites being completely worthless on launch, I quit this game for months, and started cheering on it's downfall. I thought with the buffdivers patches they were learning from their mistakes, but now I see that a year later they've decided to just be actively spiteful in a very feminine way, rather than the usual accidentally retarded levels of spiteful typical of Swedes.
I think the game's dead for me now. Unless they fire Alexus and Baskinator, I'm likely never going back.
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>>543973498
Yeah they just fucking wrecked all the fire weapons just to spite Coyote users.
>sell weapon
>nerf it a month later
I can't believe they're STILL doing this faggot shit.
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>>543973132
They all were. And all the armors.
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>>543971220
He was the lead designer of Hello Neighbor 1 and 2.

Hello Neighbor 1 in early beta before Alexus wormed into the project was intended to be a chase/break-in simulator with physics based enviroment and a very advanced chaser AI that would path to unexpected locations and surprise you if you barricaded yourself after being found and would actively trap and react to areas you frequented or used to thwart or slow it down.
After Alexus it became literal streamerslop illogical puzzle-platformer where the AI is lobotomized and cannot ever reach you and where moon logic and retardation is exemplified. And you all already know what happened to Hello Neighbor 2.
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>>543973619
The DOT was already horrible before the buff on bug, wtf were they thinking. Scavenger also still refused to catch fire.
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>>543964218
That would be sensible. So clearly, not happening.
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>>543973673
What do they even do at work. At this point I'm inclined to believe that the optimizations were handed to them earlier by whatever studio did the xbox port and the Swede couldn't be arsed to implement them until now.
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>>543974113
Arrowhead do the free updates and balancing and decide what goes into warbonds. Warbonds assets are out sourced.
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is there a reason some people just keep fucking off in a random direction forcing me to chase them to make sure their ass isnt grass?

like buddy we can sweep this shit faster as 4 than 2
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>>543974009
They were thinking what they're always thinking,
>these stupid americans are doing something we don't like so lets spite them
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>>543974226
Base game armors were also outsourced outside of final pass.
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>>543972126
Paizuri.
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>>543974113
>What do they even do at work
Texture work. Out-sourced studios make the models, then Lazyhead textures them.
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>>543974226
Nope, almost all models were outsourced, search "Helldivers 2 concept art"
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>>543974552
that left one looks so fucking cool but then we got some weird blue shit
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>>543974552
>arctic ranger
>they make it blue
holy fuck I love sweden!
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>>543974552
>ugly marine blue with orange
what did they mean by this
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>>543939459
>>543940132
>these are the people complaining about the game 24 hours a day
jesas...
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The performance is substantially better right now.
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>>543974724
>>543974552
Imagine if instead of blue/orange garish or white/orange it was black/gold standard helldiver colors like nearly every armor that wasn't enviromental camo that was added to HD1
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>>543972338
It was 25% before the patch.
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>>543970927
power went out, kick the randumb
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>>543939459
Punisher plasma projectile never hits because of a proximity fuse, you always did pure explosive damage with it.
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>>543974552
>left looks fucking great and I would actually use it even if it had a detrimental passive
>right
>lol
fuck these fags honestly
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>>543975048
I tired to join you but I could not.
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>>543975048
its open, git in
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Epoch is fucking amazing now
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>>543970927
>>543975048
>>543975165
>>543975171
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>543975249
we jsut fixed it git in
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Today I will remind them
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>>543974552
The only time I've ever used that artic ranger armour is on snow planets and only during the night. No where else does it look or feel appropriate to use.
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>>543974928
I mean that would also be cool, but that's literally supposed to be arctic camo.
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STOP IT HELLCHUDS!!! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO WIN!!!!
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>>543975057
>>543974808
And yet it took them this long to sort that shit out. Still isn't a good look for Arrowhead, Glaze-kuns.
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>>543975401
It's better now! Instead of doing full damage like it should it deals less damage!
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>>543975372
and there goes the best planet performance-wise no fog and the best looking one.
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>>543975329
Red on green paintscheme will never look bad
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>>543966987
The devs on their patch video literally explained that, yes, the projectile damage was never applying. You are a nigger arguing in bad faith.
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>>543975584
It's also appropriately Soviet, rust also looks good af
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>>543975628
>taking the swiggers at their word
Fuck off, Glazeshitter.
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>>543975329
Not bad, but I honestly like the current Automatons more. Walkers are pretty cool though, and the Automaton Tanks are honestly the weakest unit in their line up design wise.
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>>543975329
I like these ones a lot but honestly not more than the bots we have now
All the red is just too iconic. That being said the spider tank is definitely better than a normal tank
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>>543975774
"We hear you"
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How is the Plas-39 doing? Finally worth a damn?
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>>543975628
See >>543969778
Even if you weren't wrong, why not fix the bug/wrong value instead of dancing around the issue and nerfing the weapon while they're at it?
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>>543975827
>>543975832
How did you do that.
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>>543975908
it was good ever since the last enbuffening
its only downside was that it didn't really have that much ammo in total
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Can't wait for them to actually show drop off distance damage data so everyone can see how hard they fucked things up.
They'll never release that of course lol
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>>543975908
Yeah. It's worth a damn to keep sitting next to the throwing knives on your Super Destroyer.
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>>543975956
>why not fix the bug/wrong value instead of dancing around the issue and nerfing the weapon while they're at it?
Because it's Narrowhead and they are dogshit at gamedev. Or is that no obvious as fuck by now, given the game has and is still brick people's computers?
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>>543975329
These are cool when they're drawn but I guarantee you if you tried to implement them into the game with it's realistic artstyle, they wouldn't look nearly as good, the Automatons we got are better for that. Would love to see these guys in a game with a more cartoony artstyle though
Also reminded me of Hyperion Loaders
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none of the "buffed" guns feel any stronger at all...
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>>543976154
Thats the trick :) We made you believe we buffed the guns, but actually all the changes added up to nothing, or even better, actually nerfing your favorite gun. :) Enjoy :)
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>>543976154
Because they're not. All the increase in damage is counter-balanced by the fact that the damage drop off was doubled, and certain enemies had their durable damage increased.
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>That time they increased GL projectile drag as a "mistake"
>The same mistake they previously committed with the Plasma Punisher when they "reworked" plasma weapons
Around Swiggers never relax. Always believe the opposite of what Swiggers say
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>dragonroach fire still desyncs, hits you when its not visually near you and only needs a pixel to instakill you if you're not wearing firecuck armor
good morning I hate sweden
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>blizzard
>walk about 30m from a bot patrol
>used to be able to walk even 10m or closer during blizzards since forever
>they instantly turn around and engage me in the storm today
anyone else confirm similar experiences post-patch
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>>543976348
You were upwind of them
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Nice job. Stuck the landing.
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>>543976348
Wouldn't be surprised if the smoke/sandstorm/snowstorm changes were reverted, now I get jumped by randomly aggroed Hulks
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>>543976481
Hehe smelldivers hehe
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Infinity Nikki has an update soon so I'll stop playing this for awhile when it comes out.
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>>543965595
I wish you could stick the Dynamite like a C4 charge.
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>>543975203
nothing substantial changed really
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>>543965595
>3 spare
Might as well bring a Thermite, what's the difference?
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>>543977089
can you be my gf pls
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>>543965595
after fucking with it for an extended period of time, it's honestly a downgrade. Cool as fuck, but it's trying to be too many things at once with too many downsides.

One taps behemoths though which is amazing frankly.

>>543977364
hipster thermite
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>>543977023
We have ways of making you talk, evil A*tomaton.
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>>543977529
Paizuri.
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>>543977596
how did you not see that coming
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>>543977529
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>Goes a long way to nerf coyote that other incendiary weapon gets the whiplash
Very cool AH
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>>543977638
vith ze helmet he can nazi any sing
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>>543977763
pfft
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>>543977715
all they had to do was nerf the fucking application strength. Actually if coyote takes two bullets I can't imagine how bad it is for cookout now.
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>>543977529
there's more right?
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>>543977529
This activates my monkey brain.
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>>543977715
Arrowhead would literally destroy their game before they let someone have fun. Why do i always pick games with sociopath devs ?
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D10
Lobby picks

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243894609688/76561197999417031
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>>543977529
needs more ball joints and panel lines
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>>543977715
It's literally buffed because they made overseers easier to set on fire. No one gives a fuck about bugs.
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C4 Stratagem pack keaked lessgo!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAm55c2AEg
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>>543977952
3/4
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>>543978061
The deploy/detonate shit is clunky as fuck but i'll take it. Welcome back Rec-6 demolisher.
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>>543978061
Yes, we talked about it all last thread.
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>>543978061
>too low skill to land a recoilless rocket literally anywhere on a heavy?
>here's a support weapon with the same number of uses, worse damage per projectile, still requires a backpack, and also has zero range
every now and then I'm reminded that arrowhead genuinely enjoys adding things to the game just because they can, giving no thought to what that thing's role will be, or how it compares to other options
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>>543977907
I'm really beginning to think that this all goes back to them hating Americans, and 90% of the people who give them feedback on this jankfest come from the US.
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>>543977638
I was sitting there wondering why it was getting larger..
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>>543975372
RD-4 fell so it's all according the Joels railroading plans. They want players to defeat bugs so they can move onto the Bot deathstar storyline then back to squids.
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C4 should not need a backpack and if it does it should bring more than just 5 charges and be able to destroy structures.
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>>543978398
I for one can't wait for the next few decades to be a cruel reality check for all the people who hate America in spite of almost every modern luxury they depend on having been conceptualized and invented in America by an American.
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>>543978398
>>543978921
They just hate their players, stop playing victims like niggers.
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>>543974001
>a very advanced chaser AI
God I wish this was real
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After all these balance changes, Silo still doesn't destroy Jammer or Detector Tower, does it?
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>>543978921
Europeans will never care. To them Americans are just uncouth barbarians who shouldn't be allowed to be so powerful because the nation is so young. As if that fucking matters, considering that Americans are still Europeans genetically, culturally, and carried over knowledge about statecraft and governance from Europe when they came over. Though it was all about what NOT to do, and I think that's always been a craw in their sides. Europe's march into geopolitical irrelevance was because of typical European approaches to everything they do, and America's march to world dominance was because of rejecting the European approach. Haughty shit that they are, they will never accept that they're their own worst enemy. And oh look. Russia is baiting them into starting another worthless war that will kill the few of them that aren't useless faggots, thus dooming the European gene pool even further than the last two world wars already had. With any luck the Africans and Arabs will depopulate the cities, and the few remaining rural Europeans will leave the city ruins as a testament to the hubris of the Europid race, though I doubt it.

Have I mentioned that I hate Europeans?
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>>543978332
>worse damage per projectile,
on paper, but you're forgetting the RR's damage is loadedo nto its projectile while the C4's damage is on its explosion, and it has a fairly respectable AoE for a demo tool so it's going to be hitting multiple parts for far more damage than a single RR shot can do
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>>543979535
Of course not, why would it, silly?
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>>543979538
I suck jew dick btw
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>>543979535
no it doesn't. and the ulimatium never destroyed jammers you're insane
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>>543979569
>hitting multiple parts for far more damage
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>>543979764
IT DID IT DID I'M NOT CRAZY I'M NOT CRAZY
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>>543979748
A bad friend is worse than a good enemy. Europeans are bad friends to Americans.
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Watching people that strictly use light armour get oneshot headshot by the roach and then complain about it is schadenfreude to me.
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I use medium armor and it oneshots me through prestim regeneration while diving away from its shot
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>>543979854
now show me a unit that has 100% explosion immunity on everything but its main that has less than 2000 health
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>>543974552
>swedes will never add color selection to ensure they can inflict their retarded taste in colors on everyone the same way they inflict their retarded balancing on everyone

Has there ever been a more ceaselessly malevolent studio? Is is actually run exclusively by women? At least EA is just greedy. These fucking swedes are malicious.
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Do you bitches actually enjoy this game or just complain all day?
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>>543970551
ggs
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>same FPS with FSR off now (Native) as I had before at FSR Ultra Quality
Actual noticeable performance improvement
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>>543980202
>that has less than 2000 health
... more than 2000, I mean
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>>543980202
Hulks
>>543980352
Hive Lord
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>>543980213
I don't see why they do not at the very least allow for all armors to have the default black and yellow color scheme as a secondary option.
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>>543980282
I've never played helldivers 2
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>>543980119
Your helmet in most medium armours provides 0 armour just like all light armour does and then you wonder why the headshot still instantly kills you?
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>>543979748
Thanks for letting us know, Sven
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If your armor doesn't provide more than 101 or more armor value than your head has 0 damage reduction and so can cause instant death from roach breath attacks.
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>>543980403
>>543979854
>has to use the giga-nigga boss encounter mob that only spawns once to try and paint an explosive weapon as bad
you're coping hard my dude. anything with 100% explosion immune limbs has less than 200 main HP so the C4 kills it anyway, and anything with more than 2000 main HP has parts that aren't 100% explosion immune so the explosion stacks multiple times
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>>543980829
The only niche for this thing is being the perfect Hive Lord buster, but it's completely immune to it, so whatever
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Enemies dealing headshot damage shouldn't be calculated for gameplay reasons. Just write it off as Helldivers making helmets stronger than their body armor.
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>>543980428
I didn't know you were a dev.
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For me, it is the Infiltrator
The coolest light armor
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I say they should get rid of headshots for enemies and instead give them random crits, like TF2.
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>>543981150
Should have been Light Extra Padding.
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>No lobbies
>No non-crossplay pubs either
Kill me
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>>543981228
That's basically what they are due to how schizophrenic enemy aiming is.
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>>543981228
Crits are broken limbs
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>>543981331
>Found one squidsnooze lobby
>Chink lobby
Rock bottom
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>>543981629
just host nigga
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>>543981150
The new warbond light armor will look even better
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>>543981752
You fags never join my lobbies
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>>543978332
Shit doesn't even need to be hyper competitive. Obviously something so tedious as C4 would likely never be "meta".

But if a single swede simply had the brainpower to ask "how does this compare to the best options?" they'd realize "yeah this is kind of shit, let's give it 10 charges" or another buff that actually gives it a niche instead of half the shit in the game being used for meme challenge runs.
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>>543982142
lol
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>>543982216
This
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>>543980305
Don't text and drunk dive, kids.
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>Eagle Storm on top of fucking Hellmire
But of course.
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>>543982307
idk how the dev cycle can be so raped that this >>543982216 doesn't happen btw. I'm not even a dev, but I mod. I've made modpacks in games to use with friends. I've added skins to smash bros project M. I've made a minecraft modpack. EVERY time I go to work on something I ask myself "will someone actually use this/like this?" Because otherwise you're wasting your time.

Can't think of greater evidence that these faggots make the game "for them" - and clearly, not even to play. But as some sort of brain sickness. They add shit to the game like it's painting WH40k figurines. Not to be played with, but just to look at(?)
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>>543978824
It’s 2000 damage 2000 durable AP 7 30 demo with 9 charges, if the armor makes you super sneaky it could be pretty good. I bet they made it a backpack so that you could still take the stupid fucking impact smokes with them kek
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>Ok so in our game you need a high caliber weapon to get through tough armor
Cool, makes sense!
>UM BUT ALSO THERE IS A HIDDEN DURABILITY STAT MOST THINGS HAVE UM
>GRRR SO EVEN IF YOU BRING THE ANTI-ARMOR WEAPON YOU S-STILL CAN'T KILL THE MONSTER OKAY!
Why is durability a thing?
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>>543982810
To make the game look more deep than it really is.
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Guys I don't want to use the Recoilless Rifle but I wanna still kill bots and I kinda suck at the game. The RR is too easy to use for how effective it is; making it boring to me.
What weapons should I bring?
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>>543983059
HMG
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>>543982770
What does making it a backpack have to do with bringing an optional grenade option? It's both a support weapon AND a backpack like the recoilless launcher because they can't code having the backpack slot be an actual throwable meaning you can't have backpack utility to pair up with it.
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Is is actually kind of astonishing just how much Arrowhead hates the players.
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>>543983169
Oh. I thought it was just a backpack which would have given it a pretty damn strong niche. So the detonator is the “support weapon”? Well never mind that’s doa. If it was just a backpack and activating it pulled the remote out it would be amazing, 9 instant thermites, AMR/railgun/whatever you want, utility nade of your choice. Fucking Swedes
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>>543925468
>>543926162
>>543956193
kek
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>game set to invite only
>randoms still joined
>confirmed that I did not throw an sos beacon and matchmaking was invite only
Is this a thing that just happens sometimes? Is it because I accidentally threw an sos the mission before and it carried over? Did the Swedes just enforce their country's immigration policy on me?
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>>543983059
Harpoon
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>>543983476
>>543983169
C4 could still be a viable option on bugs if they gave you more than a handful and gave it enough boom to one-shot heavies with it. What was the leaked damage? 2000 AP7? right now it's worse than a recoiless rifle at everything except AP7 targets. It does less damage and obviously isn't ranged beyond throwing distance at best.

So the ONLY niches the piece of shit has right now are fighting Armor level 7 targets (I don't think any exist), or synchronizing all of the explosions with one trigger pull which is just a meme for stealthniggers.
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>>543983059
Bring EAT/Commando/Solo Silo. Just rotate through them and keep blowing things up.
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>>543983743
Double the damage and radius and call it H4 (hell 4) maybe then it would be okay, still not top tier but a pretty big boom
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>>543983059
Quasar is better for bots I say. If you have to shoot down gunships you’re better off darting in and out of cover blasting with the quase rather than have to sit there and reload a shell into that stupid piece of shit wasting your backpack slot.
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>>543983987
He said he wants something worse than the RR, not better.
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Still no leak on the stealth warbonds armour passive? I want to be disappointed as soon as possible so my expectations don’t get a chance to rise.
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>>543983059
Railgun or AMR
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>>543983743
It sorta has a niche for factory convoys.
Toss a few on the path, wait for them to move over, pull the trigger.
Probably not as good as the portable hellbomb, but safer and more flexible, I guess? Kinda the same as anti tank mines, just they break if you die and can't get your shit
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>>543984080
nope, just the name - reduced signature
odds are it's a mashup of halo and scout
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>>543983638
Harpoon is real fun against bots, yes
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>>543984145
>AMR
I like the AMR. I like the fantasy of being a sniper in this game. What's a good primary to pair with it, and where should I point it against War Striders?
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>>543983743
The main way to use it on HD1 was to stack two of them to instakill any group of heavies in its huge radius, it's not an issue that it requires two charges out of 6 to kill something. It's a huge issue that you can't use a jetpack to actually make up for its lack of range or a ballistic/shieldgen to allow you to get close enough against ranged enemies and that it has 1 less charge meaning you rely a lot more on resupplies or a supply backpack teammate to really enable it.
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>>543984063
Uh tell him to bring a flamethrower which only shoots out like 20 feet while you’re being hailed with gunfire from 200m
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>>543984146
I think solo silo is better at that even if it can't completely solo the convoy, and the cuckchair is DEFINITELY better. It's amazing how the cuckchair hasn't gotten a nerf.
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>>543984463
Hopefully it at least regenerates a ton of C4 charges from POI ammo boxes.
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The best way to balance C4 is to just make the remote temporarily take up the secondary slot. You're unable to wield your secondary for as long as you have any C4 in the backpack, once it's empty it automatically switches to equipping your secondary again.
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>>543984386
>Halo
Hoped not, reduced foot steps does next to nothing in 99% of situations. At the very least it better have 50% reduced detection range plus something else very strong. The passive is going to carry the play style, you can kind of jank it with scout gear right now but it just doesn’t make you sneaky enough to actually sneak into a base and do something. That’s the level of sneaky this shit needs.
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I hate the stim gun so much. But its the only heal item in the game.
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>>543984706
I bet you it's gonna be 1 per ammo box like every other support weapon that isn't the AC.
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Just make C4 a super strong grenade with the downside of being slower to use since you need to change fire mode to detonate, and the backpack a simple grenade re supply pack. Now we have a cool new grenade and a new backpack if you want to go all in on nades.
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>>543984706
currently it's 1 charge per box and full refill from resupply
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Why are we fighting so hard for a planet nyobody plays on?
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>>543983059
HMG
WASP / Spear (main challenge is mostly conserving ammo)
RG
Speargun
AC
ABRL
All of them paired with EATs / Commando
Want a fun "challenge"? Don't pick any support weapon. Find a RG, Arc Thrower, MMG or Flamethrower or wait for a teammate to drop / lose one. Not much of a challenge because by the end of it you're pretty much better off than your teammates, but the first few minutes are fun primary weapon gameplay
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>Mounted up on a wall, shooting squids
>Fleshmobs clips into wall and kills me
>Get kicked
... What did I do wrong
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Did fire get nerfed? my napalm strikes aren't doing as much as they should b4 the patch
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>>543985073
So thermites plus resupply backpack are straight up better besides the utter fantasy of sneaking through a base setting the C4 on all the spawners then leaving and blowing it up which is never going to happen unless the new armour makes you fucking invisible. Bravo Sweden
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>>543985303
several enemies like broodmasters and overseers are harder to set on fire
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>>543985263
Too chatty
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>>543985263
LIst this fool for being negative about our Swedish masters.
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>>543985303
>Fembots be like
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>>543978061
it irritates me how twitchy that retard is with his mouse and how he doesnt sprint
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>>543984458
Bring something for chaff units like the Coyote, Liberator or if you still wanna snipe, Dilligence either counter or regular
Aim for the glowing red eye with the AMR, that's the new weakspot they added
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>>543985343
Pretty sure one of the devs said that warbonds are meant to sell a fantasy instead of strictly being good. Now, I don't believe every item in the game has to be s-tier, but it would be nice if they could not act retarded for one week. Every tool have some sort of use case.
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>>543978061
have you bought that ad?
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>>543985263
Randos are deathly allergic to chatter
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>>543985263
he saw your dogshit taste in mods
good to know mod viewer is still being updated
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>>543985748
tiny mouse pad probably
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>>543985826
Well I find it hard to buy the fantasy of being sneaky when the entire base is on alert and shooting at me so that shit better be good.
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It's high time they add second support support slot
>Shovel
>Silos pointer
>C4 detonator
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>>543985303
Enemies being harder to set on fire is a smaller change, there's actually an unlisted change for fire damage. 1.0 -> 0.8 so yeah you're right. I'm pissed ngl because napalm is fun as hell.
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>>543978332
looks pretty fun since you dont have to spend 4 seconds reloading between every "shot" it wont be incredible but fun.
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>>543986405
You'll have to spend 2 minutes walking to things instead, maybe even popping a few stims to get that epic Factory Strider belly kill #1643
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>>543986625
retard
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>>543986115
Just call it a 'tools' slot and be done. Unfortunately, this amount of work petrifies Swedes and sends them into a frenzy.
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>>543986653
It will be mediocre at best, anyone with a brain can see it bro
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>>543986814
Yes I called you a fucking retard because I said it wont be incredible but it still looks fun.
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>>543985796
Alright, thanks Anon I'll give it a go.

Does anyone want to play bots?
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>>543986856
Except it also doesn't look fun and that's why it'll be mediocre
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>>543986985
Ok retard
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>>543986328
Is that actually true I know they listed fleshmobs and factory striders for that change but I see people listing a couple others but I only see build up changes for those ones rather than fire damage modifier changes.
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>Keep using the Coyote like every other AR, just shooting until they die
>Never know how many bullets to stop at to let the fire kill them
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>>543987278
Use a flamethrower if your going to play like a flaming faggot
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>>543987370
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>>543987278
Shitters usually are too stupid to notice they're being shafted, see: Reddit, Discord
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>>543987278
if you count your shots its 1 for hunters and 2 for warriors, others take too many bullets to matter. It was always bad on bots for trying to rely on fire damage when headshots are just better
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>>543986115
Nah fuck that. Maybe a melee slot but even then fuck that.
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>>543978220
Coulda just been right and left click, or reload even



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