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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8770 - Sonic 06 figures when? Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailer
https://youtu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE

>Sonic Rumble arrives this November
https://x.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1978491359452364988

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Blazes - Soon

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ OCs:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixels:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>543965226
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>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
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>>544016374
>jakks
'ilver on the 'jak
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>>544016374
Looks like it could hurt your hand
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IF YOU'RE STRONG
YOU CAN FLY
YOU CAN REACH THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAINBOW
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>>544016374
i wanna suck on it
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>Le Soon
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>>544016374
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Blazes - Soon
What is this?
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I wonder if Zavok or any of the Deadly Six will get actual figures like Infinite and Mephiles did a while back?
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>>544016374
>selling weed to kids
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I have a mighty NEED for this sheep.
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>>544016975
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Blazes - Soon
>What is this?
An Irrelevant Shitaze faggot got triggered by Chadow's superiority some ops ago and changed it. People keep forgetting to fix it.
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>>544017402
I love sonic crossworlds <3
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Why are there so many latino Sonic fans?
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>>544016961
Ritual soon posting getting Antoine and ONLY Antoine resurrected from Archie would be the best
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>>544017694
Brain power isn't necessary to understand Sonic
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>>544017304
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>>544017694
Ayy you got a problem ese?
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>>544017462
>I love sonic crossworlds <3
deflecting retard
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>>544017927
No, I did not. But would love to pound some bussy.
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>>544017776
>Non. J'ai want all mes amis. l' spouse Bunnie and le princesse Sallly et mon ami Rotor.
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>>544017304
>>544017927
Which way, western man?
>>544018086
faag
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>>544011736
Counterpoints: (1)"Jingle Bells" does not mention or describe Santa Claus, it describes a sleigh ride. (2) Coca-Cola Santa, the one everyone knows, was designed by Haddon Hubbard "Sunny" Sundblom, a Swedish American artist born and raised in the Swedish-speaking majority area of Michigan and his depiction was inspired specifically by Henry Livingston Jr./Clement Clarke Moore's "A Night Before Christmas". Both poets were born in the 18th century British Colonial New York and have dependents that fought for the Union.

Conclusion, Sonic the Hedgehog's existence is more-so tied to New York and the Union held areas US than the Confederacy.
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>>544018170
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Who is the most mischaracterized character and how should they be characterized in the future?
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>>544016374
Lookin sharp
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https://youtu.be/eeemYm3M_Jc?si=EHAGVZMZxRazDdLf&t=903

Griff: My car is broken
Sally: Hey wanna fuck
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>>544018372
>Who is the most mischaracterized character
Me. I act very OOC today compared to myself from 15 years ago
>and how should they be characterized in the future?
I develop even further idk
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>>544018329
>sheep character
>named after the wool compound
What did these goat fuckers mean by this?
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>>544018372
>Who is the most mischaracterized character
Ian, he turned from the savior of the franchise to a hack
>how should they be characterized in the future?
Goes back to xwitter and face his demons
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>>544016473
Nobody cares for it.
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>>544016374
Chat is this real?>>544017317
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they should mix Sonic CD with 06
this way blazefags stay mad and amyfags, metalfags and silverfags are happy
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Hey, someone finally posted that picture of Lanolin ABT hid in that book he was selling.

Don't tell ABT I posted it here...
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>>544018329
Sauce for the artist?
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>>544018869
We all become mad
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>>544018983
we arent all blazefags
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>>544018957
https://e621.net/post/show/5889430
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>>544018957
https://x.com/Beeloz303
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>>544018869
But, will it have the Time Stones?
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>>544018372
>Who is the most mischaracterized character
Shiruba kun
>characterized in the future?
His canon game version(not tsr ew ew ew)
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Due to her very bottom heavy design cream is easily, canonically, the most caked up girl on the cast besides maybe her own mom. Or Zeena.
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>>544019163
it should have
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>>544019281
It's literally a weapon
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I wish Lanolin apology was written better, like she berating herself and apologizes and Silver not seeing her at fault but 'was just doing her job' and she denies it calling him insane while tearing up and silver tell her that quote but more gently" you don't need to be sorry, you're better now" and she calms down, but then acts tsundere saying he just wants his get back and he's genuinely confused
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>>544019754
lanolin shouldnt apologise to begin with
>>544019194
>>544019194
stop posting gayver
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https://youtu.be/r-KeCPZETcE?si=hyUjb56LwKhguUzN
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>>544019846
>lanolin shouldnt apologise to begin with
It's too ooc for Lanolin to not see herself at fault, she actually becomes egoistic, since her mentality consists of following orders and logic yet that made her easily manipulated and by default her entire team, she needs to make sure that she knows shes at fault to everyone, else she'll look like a complete goof.
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Real!
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>>544020365
she wasn't at fault to begin with
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>>544020446
It doesn't matter to her that's the idea shtupid
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>>544020563
im not stupid
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>>544018293
>the Swedish-speaking majority area of Michigan
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>>544019194
>Pink eyes
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which character could benefit from tiktok aura edits
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>>544020684
Charmy
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>>544019754
>>544019846
Okay, so everyone agrees that storyline sucked for every character involved. Where do we go with Lanolin now, and how badly do you think she'll fuck up the new Restoration HQ she's designing(?) with Jewel? Do you think the NeoDiamond Cutters have a future as actual players in the Sonic Universe/Franchise, or will they always be incomplete?
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>>544020663
Yeah. Kind of makes sense as Northern boarder states like Michigan probably have climate and geography similar to that of Northern Europe.
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>>544021156
They just won't focus on them for a while until they're done with roping frontiers into the comics and ending another super story, then they come back finishing their project to celebrate.
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>>544021156

Whisper effectively got closure after Mimic was (poorly) killed off, she has nowhere else to go character-wise except as a token LGB rep for the comic staff to tote around. Tangle's in a similar boat by association, unfortunately. Barnes said recently that the next arcs will focus on characters exclusive to those arcs. The stories would become too crowded if it were the game characters, the arc-exclusive characters, and the OCs we've already met. The writers clearly have a hard time juggling multiple characters.

If I can be completely honest? The staff retired all of theses characters. The only recurring characters we're going to see again is Belle, (because she's Evan's self insert) and Surge and Kit, because their arcs aren't finished and Surge is still somewhat popular in the comics. MAYBE you'll see Lanolin again, but ABT is an artist and not the writer, I doubt he has ant true pull. And the writers fumbled the bag so hard with her I doubt most normal people would care.
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>>544018372
>Who is the most mischaracterized character
Tails. Victim of the "Sally Tails" phenomenon.
>how should they be characterized in the future?
Adventurous fun-loving mechanic with a bit of apprehension during tough situations (although not overbearing or enough to ever oppose Sonic on doing something). Closer friends with Amy. More socially suave and less awkward. More focus on being a two-tailed fox who can fly with his butt, less focus on being an Eggman-esque 'super genius' (Thanks, Maekawa).
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>>544018819
Stop removing shit from the OP, Xitter tourist,
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I want to have sexual relations with Silver.
>>544017304
My nigga.
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Union Sontails piece that I commissioned.
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>>544024000
Wasn't krack suspended?
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>>544023695
Nta but
>Discord booru troon saying anyone else is a tourist
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>>544023056
I think its pretty funny that Lanolin and the Restoration was manipulated by Mimic and Clutch/Cleansweep for like 10 issues, and you'd think that all this was going to be set up for more personal conflicts between these all these characters and the organizations they have aligned with later down the line; but then Mimic and Clutch just completely implode immediately after all that set up and the resolution to all this is Restoration getting a hard reboot.

Maybe they got new directives from Sega to move on.
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>>544024000
>>544024256
I wonder if sonic ever met gay niggers from outer space in archie.
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>>544024709
>Maybe they got new directives from Sega to move on
No, they just can't get their shit together and are slaves to their mentally-damaged fringe fanbase.

Evan herself stated she has no plan and writes on the fly. It feels like Bittersweet Candy Bowl
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>>544024848
he met some griggers who built him a space ship home. they were not fags tho
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Sonic had 99% of all life in the universe wiped out in Archie because of his stupid advice actually
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>>544025091
>they were not fags tho
Oh well, one can always dream of gay african clones.
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>>544024292
The cunt has an alt and a Discord for her community. She won't go away. Sonic was always about freedom, being transphobic is against everything Sonic stands for. It is not hard to use the right pronouns, you just choose to be a horrible person. Krack, if you read this I hope you and all your sycophants kill yourself.
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>>544025289
y r u gae?
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nothing goes against what sonic stands for because the wind doesn't stand you fools you absolute scum do you hear me the wind doesn't stand it doesn't even have legs
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faggot hours
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>>544026218
it's just sl*shy.
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>check /sthg/
>its a politics shitflinging episode
gamergate ruined this website
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>>544016473
Hey bobo, nobody gives a shit.
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>>544026383
I swear, I just said bussy, I'm not that xitter troon.
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>>544024327
the booru has been here for years. if you have a problem with it, you're the tourist.
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>>544026460
>trannies are deranged and go into witch hunts
>gamergate
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>>544026383
did i stutter
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>>544026101
>>544026218
Hey Krack kill yourself. You aren't funny.
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>>544026625
>i just said bussy
Worse, you will be eaten and killed.
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Is Sonic Objectivist?
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>>544026460
Let's be honest, it wasn't just gamergate. It was also the political landscape during 2016 that introduced tons of awful people to the site.
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Slashy wants to Krack kracks pussy
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>>544026631
And it is now governed by people who don't even visit this place anymore and delete whatever they want when they want arbitrarily thus destroying its purpose as an archive.
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>>544026734
if i die i would just respawn
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>>544026981
gamergate was the catalyst for 2016
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>political drama
>namefag drama
>booru drama
Now we need tails avatar spamming so we can top this masterpiece.
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>>544026981
>>544027221
It was inevitable, journalism and entertainment industries are a huge circlejerk.
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Sonic wouldn't like sthg
Rouge might troll and bait users
Amy might have mixed feelings about her adoring fans...
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>play a Grand Prix
>against Shadow
>as Silver
>lead
>choose Travel Ring
>Shadow says
>What is THEIR power?
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Douge
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I can't read what this shit is so i post it here, just don't open it i need to read it for me all alone ok?
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Noticing Enigma gets no fanart in either form, more people care to redraw Amy panels
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>>544028449
Ah ok it's just anti-shadria dramafag.
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>>544028520
>Noticing Enigma gets no fanart in either form
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>>544028520
Mentioned this last thread. Total flop of a character.
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>>544028442
Cute N Canon!
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>>544029002
I don't think the character is bad, but she only really exists at the very end of the comic. She needed a longer story to have more focus in
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I AM CRACK MASTER!

*dies trying to be mean*

Sonic characters™ like this?
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>>544028520
3 different plush dolls of her being made at least but the silly panels and cameos got more people's attention.
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Blobians are so small
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>>544029269
I think more people like her civie look better. It's funny, people seemed more interested in her when they thought she would be a BG character.

As it stands, unfortunately, Enigma probably needed a semi-compeling sob story and/or Lanolin-tier tits to make any real fandom appear.
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>>544030014
I just told you that i don't care about your shit and i am not entertaining this facade of yours as "healthy poster" when you did more damage around here than anyone else. You're an attention whore and one without genitals.
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Nobody cares, pick Magma Planet
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>>544030336
I don't think she needed a sob story, she just needed A story. She's pretty much irrelevant in the comic she debuts in because the actual story here is about the Chaotix and Amy's not date with Sonic.
Had this been an extended two part or even 3 part story where the Chaotix actually has to track her down across a location and have a proper standoff, it'd have been cooler. But the point of this comic wasnt being cool, its just comedy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhNpcCtDO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhNpcCtDO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhNpcCtDO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhNpcCtDO4
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can we ban anons who are here just to shill their channels
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>>544030731
That's fair, and really the special was probably just her introduction, sort of like how Surge and Kit were introduced in a miniseries. I'm sure we'll see more of her and that will be when her fandom/fan art will grow.

Do you think she'll be connected to Lunar?
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>>544031270
The rant that kicks this video off is blatantly from randomfox lmao
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What does "Tanabata" mean in the context of Silver/Blaze?
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>>544030014
This poster has a Y chromosome

>>544031453
iDW has such bad character designs
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>>544018170
i had a stroke reading that, i love you Antoine
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>>544031597
It's okay to be wrong, anon.
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>>544019632
Holy fuck.
I guess it's been a while since I played Advance, is that a unique Cream mechanic?
I don't remember that.
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>>544031453
>spoiler
No
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>>544031594
Star-crossed lovers separated by Alternate Dimensions and Time
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>>544031270
>>544032380
>Sonic needs doubts because I'm a tranny and relate to constantly doubting my existence after trooning out
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>>544031986
Advance 2 had characters able to do trick-attacks to keep up their momentum if they were going fast enough to activate the Boost Mode (no relation) afterimages. A bit of that also made it into Sonic Rush (mostly for Sonic rather than Blaze).

Actually, it might be where the Sonic Daybreak fangame got the idea.
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It is a good point that Maekawa wrote Blaze OOC. Far more OOC than anything Ian's ever done under IDW.
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Yuki Imada is so fucking cool
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>>544032613
Yeah I remember it from Rush,
but I guess Cream's the only one who uses her ass.
Anyone got that webm of the Heroes comparison?
You know the one I'm talking about.
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>>544032706
he gets to get away with it because he's japanese
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>>544032706
I still can't believe he wrote a second edgehog with a tanabata/ PSME-inspired tragic romance with his relationship Sue sisterwife.
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>>544032706
Ian doesn't get the freedom to write characters that OOC thanks to the mandates. Maekawa's a low bar, anyways. He wrote Tails OOC and hates Classic Sonic.
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>>544033003
He gets away with it cause he has enough life experience that he can write something interesting even if it's ooc cause he isn't a twitter obsessed living beanbag chair.
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>>544031594
Their story in a 06 is a loose retelling of the fairy tale with Silver being the cow herder and Blaze being the princess. Two lovers from different stars that are separated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOahFPV-xxQ
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>>544032613
>but I guess Cream's the only one who uses her ass.
Technically tails too if you count propeller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyftR9aWda0
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>>544032608
He mentions that he doesn't like how Sonic is written in the games because he has no vulnerabilities and that is boring. Considers IDW an improvement. Scolds those who use Unleashed as an example because "Unleashed sucks, Sonic should have been vulnerable so that him overcoming this would be interesting"
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>>544033285
Meant for >>544032789
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Anyone who prefers OOC can be dismissed out of hand as a fake fan of Sonic the Hedgehog.
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>IDWfag claims Sonic would be more "relatable" if he was "vulnerable"
>States this towards windfags, who do not find the concept of vulnerability relatable and will aggressively mob anyone who wants Sonic's character changed
>Gets harassed by windfags until they have a "mental breakdown" or "need a safe space" or "have mental health issues"


This happens every single time and it will happen again. If YOU are vulnerable why paint a target on your face?
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>>544033423
This is a mascot franchise. So dumb. Where do these people come from and why do they even stay?
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I want Sonic in Kirby Air Riders so I can have a 2025 Sonic Racing game where the Extreme gear actually feel remotely like they should
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>>544031594
>Tanabata
As I can see, Tanabata is basically a myth about deities, or a deity and an mortal, falling in love, but are prevented from being with each other due to the nature of their social status/responsibilities---a western analog could be something like the Persephone/Demeter story I guess.

In relation to Silver and Blaze, its because the overall theme of 06 (and Rush to a degree) was based around Tanabata-esque stories.
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>>544033720
IDW fans.
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>namefaggotry
>characterfaggotry
Radiation levels are high today
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>>544033893
it literally fits sonic and blaze better. silvazefags copied sonazefags homework
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>>544033235
this is true but Maekawa's works are extremely derivative
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one of those things is not like the other
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>>544033584
You can hunt and peck for something ooc, if you become so obsessed with keeping the line your characters will become stilted, repetitive and bland.
Plus I don't actually believe you that Maekawa wrote Blaze ooc because you guys have terrible judgement.
>>544033713
This is correct, their constant need to write Sonic vulnerable is because they want it to be easier, and they have more to chew through with their typical melodramatic tastes if they can reduce Sonic to a pathetic mess.
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>Argument hinges on the idea that the games don't have great writing
NO NO NO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR
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>>544034163
Sonic has Amy, so Silver is the next best thing for Blaze.
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>this is a mascot franchise, sonic doesn't need flaws
I see we have Mickey Mouse fans amongst us
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>>544034247
>Sonic has Amy
sonic would rather not
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Hi guys :)
Did you know Tails is cute?
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>>544034163
Not even a shipfag and i can see the cope here, both of these morons can meet any time they want they're not separated, Silver and Blaze feels more further and for logical reasons as well
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>>544034417
Trvthnuke
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>>544034323
>What I want in Dragon Ball is for Goku to start breaking down and crying and shitting his pants when Frieza calls him a monkey.
Sonic would have never been popular if people like this were involved from the start.
And DON'T make this about the fact I used Dragon Ball, I can't use western super heroes cause they've all actually been turned into that.
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>>544034417
You're telling us Sonic would leave her and go for a minecraft armor stand?
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>>544034163
What gets me about Silvaze is that it just has no actual basis in either character. Silver is an amalgam of stupid shit and Blaze's entire concept is built around Sonic in the same way that Knuckles is. Yet it's completely consumed both of them.
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>>544034417
Sonic likes Amy.
He just likes Freedom more.

Amy Rose is the ideal romantic partner for Sonic the Hedgehog. But "romance" in-general isn't Sonic's thing because he'd rather just have fun adventures.

The absolute worst romantic partner for Sonic the Hedgehog is anyone designed specifically to be his polar-opposite. In that case, opposites don't attract, they'd only repel. The "tanabata" aspect of Sonic and Blaze only ends with them being so far apart, they literally live in two different worlds.
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>>544034163
I agree. It's kind of weird that 06 made Silver and Blaze Tanabata-coded for ST, because 06 doesn't really go into what Blaze's Sol Empire backstory. She's just another character from Silver's time as far as 06 is concerned. There's more Tanabata with Sonic and Elise then those two.
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>>544034468
they literally can't. how do you chaos control to the sol dimension? or how do you sol control to sonic's world? both occasions in the games where they travel to the others dimension are always due to the plot requiring it to happen and never at will
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>>544034560
Bad comparison considering Goku's flaw in Dragon Ball is being a battle-addicted retard. When people say they want character flaws it's imperfections, not your headcanon of what [demographic you shit yourself in anger to] want.
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>>544034826
>or how do you sol control to sonic's world
Anon, every Blaze appearance is her just doing that, glad we know nobody cares about Blaze and not even her fags
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>>544034913
What's your target demographic?
Hazbin Hotel fans?
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>>544034826
>How do you sol control to Sonic's world?
She always does this. She doesn't even need to have the emeralds on her to travel to and from anymore.
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>>544034468
Nah the emeralds bring Sonic and Blaze together and push them apart. Silver and Blaze relationship has no basis in anything. Like there just isn't any lore, it's just the tropes insisting on themselves.
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>>544029825
WHY DOES HE GET TO BE HAPPY?! WHY DOES HE GET TO FUCK FAT MOBIAN TITS?!
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>>544035004
It's inconsistent. Sometimes Blaze does just show up but her meaningful stories present it as something which she has no control over.
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>>544035382
It's not inconsistent. There's just more than one means of getting there.
>>544035239
He gets to retire too :)
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>>544034759
Romance isn't inherently contradictory to 'freedom'. Many 'free' people have had numerous romantic partners or flings. See: Rockstars, for example, who often fraternize with groupies while on the road.
Amy Rose is an archetypical groupie. An obsessed fan chasing a touring hero.
Sonic is different from those types of 'free spirits' in that he does not care to indulge Amy.
Sonic 'loving' Amy would not require that he give up his freedom.
He just isn't interested in indulging her and finds her more of a nuisance than anything.
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>>544035557
>Romance isn't contradictory to freedom
I guess women DO use 4chan after all...
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>>544035557
>Romance isn't inherently contradictory to 'freedom'
This is Amy's perspective, as the counterpart to Sonic's perspective.

>He just isn't interested in indulging her
False, as Sonic literally goes on dates with Amy and does like her.
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>>544035718
>Sonic literally goes on dates with Amy
When?
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>>544035551
>Time to retire at 40 and spend the rest of my long comfy life fucking my fertility goddess shaped wife
EGGMAN, ZAVOK, NEO METAL, ONE OF YOU FUCKERS! KILL HIM!
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>>544035791
Sonic & the Black Knight happens during what was supposed to be a date between Sonic & Amy, hence why Sonic has two Chili Dogs in the beginning.

That Sonic Channel cover story has Sonic & Amy hanging out at Twinkle Park.

The new IDW Chaotix special thing is Sonic & Amy hanging out at a museum, but Amy's attempts to impress Sonic are being interrupted by the Chaotix.
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>Shipperfags trying to prove that Sonic having a relationship can work again
Wow you guys are so silly
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>>544035178
Both ideas sucks shit, the emeralds never done that with Sonic and Blaze even, that shit was just for drama in the end, not even their relationship makes sense that even the japs had to nit pick "they respect one another respect" and not mention the elephant in the room which is that they're completely incompatible.
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>>544035981
>KILL HIM!
They missed their chance
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Sonelise OTP and I won't discuss
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>>544036000
>Sonic & the Black Knight happens during what was supposed to be a date between Sonic & Amy,
Which Sonic ditches for what's heavily implied to be reading a book.
>That Sonic Channel cover story has Sonic & Amy hanging out at Twinkle Park.
Sonic hangs out with a lot of people. That's not a date.
>The new IDW Chaotix special thing is Sonic & Amy hanging out
Not a date.
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>>544036409
Fwa was a dude
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>>544033720
The person in the video says they got into the Sonic franchise through IDW and they would lose interest in the Sonic franchise if IDW was shut down and Sonic became a flat character again.
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>>544036487
>Which Sonic ditches
No, Sonic was magically summoned into that world.
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Sonic in IDW has character flaws and that's a good thing
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You can't spell wind without IDW
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>>544036487
This sounds like a massive cope dude. Also sonic can choose to go on a date with Amy in unleashed. Wouldn't be included if it wasnt sonic would do.
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>>544036410
>the emeralds never done that
they have done that 3 times
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>>544031354
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>>544037168
95% of the posts right now
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>trans troon tranny trans agp trans
What is this, /vp/? Grow up faggot, I'm trying to enjoy my cartoon scrimblos fighting bad guys and eating junk food
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>>544036650
source?
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>>544037208
Nope they never did, they never fucking separated them, they only ask for help and hear Blazes commands, even in rush both of them got separated in the end from outside forces bullshit not even the emeralds.
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>>544037168
We're on #8770 thread, what do you expect? Original content?
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>>544037732
>Sonamy
OOC slop
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>>544037732
Sonamy >>> trash >>>> putrid shit >>>> Tailsamy > Sontails>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sonaze
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>>544037678
I refuse to believe Hope was designed as a 16 year old
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>>544037732
not even Ohshima, Sonic's other dad?
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>>544037535
Try image search
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>>544037732
And still somehow Soneam>Sonamy.
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>>544037974
nothing
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Holy fuck who cares
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I understand how both Blaze ships work but I don't like either of them. Shipping is a mental illness.
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>>544038502
Where do you think you are?
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Shadow and Maria! <3
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Get your filters here
Filter out all the loonies here
Just copy and paste in your filters comments list.

https://privatebin.net/?41b1df1d073a87a5#7Q5wZy3dxgKmXyX43XRxTuv3SA2M3j47WfWWJPbiaBvi
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>>544037587
In Rush there was no outside forces, the dimensions were colliding because the Sol Emerald were brought to Sonic's world which attracted the Sol Dimension, and they were seperated because the emeralds split them apart. In Rush Adventure the emeralds brought Sonic and Tails to the Sol Dimension, and at the end Tails' ship uses the emeralds to go home, and Tails notes how they were stable, like they were helping them get home. In Sonic Channel the emeralds send Sonic to the Sol Dimension to help Blaze, the Sol Emeralds recharge the Chaos Emeralds, and then the emeralds send Sonic home.
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>>544038590
The same old place
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>>544037732
Tailsamy is just any story where the girl is an idealized manic pixie dream girl anime waifu but the boy is some variation of a relatable self-insert type.

Which is basically a common standard.
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>>544038790
Thank you filterGOD
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didn't Archie basically facilitate TailsAmy through Mina
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>>544038790
based
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Tailsamy is just Manga Nicky x Amy, where Nicky always wishes he could be stronger and cooler for her, but she already loves him for who he- OH MY GOSH ITS SONIC THE HEDGEHOG
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>>544038887
>the emeralds attracted then they separated because!
What a convoluted fucking story, Blaze was a mistake
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>>544038790
...that's all you got for me?
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>>544039431
Why does seemingly everyone ignore that Manga Tails is even more off base than any western interpretation of Tails period.
Period. SatAM, AOSTH, and even Prime (Nine specifically) are all more like Tails than the Tails in the manga.
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>>544039225
Disagree. Amy is a very flawed character in many Tailamy depictions. See, for example: Pantalion's works on ao3. Or Not the same anymore by ClemSky.
Amy is not really supposed to be an idealized flawless woman. She has a temper and she can be bratty at times. Also TailAmy fanfics often deconstruct her obsession with Sonic as symptoms of some mental disorder, be it BPD or bipolar.
>>544039334
Archie was supposed to be Tailamy but they swapped it out for Mina at the last minute.
>>544039431
This is true.
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Whiteboard?
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Are there new car effects in Crossworlds? I'm seeing some white flower stuff and a pink one with hearts. How can those be unlocked?
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>>544039606
I made this list to filter out the trash while also being somewhat passive. the easiest way to have you derail the thread starts with something that will eventually lead to one or more of these things. there are probably other phrases that I might have missed. there's that guy who talks about your OCs too, Maybe I should have included them.
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I like Blaze
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>>544038790
Some of these are my fault. Sort of.
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>>544038790
>no sonamy
Cringe filter
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>>544039685
>Also TailAmy fanfics often deconstruct her obsession with Sonic as symptoms of some mental disorder, be it BPD or bipolar.
Let's be real, the shit pre-rewrite Amy can pull off whenever anyone questions if Sonic likes her makes it clear she is not 100% sane. Not Shadow-tier bad and she wouldn't ever go on a killing spree the next time she hits her head and forgets things, but still pretty bad, even if it was only played for jokes
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>>544039723
It's in the previous thread. >>543997931
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>>544037831
>ooc slop
You're thinking of silvaze and knuxouge. Sonamy is ingrained (partially) in the characters and doesn't have to be forced.
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>>544040579
how tf is knuxouge forced?
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>>544040579
SonAmy is not a core part of Sonic at all.
A core part of Amy, sure. But definitely not Sonic.
Sonic was created before Amy and his characterization has not meaningfully changed since her inception.
The only character who is a core part of Sonic is Eggman because Eggman is established as his nemesis from as far back as the first game and the push and pull between them is very interesting and captivating for audiences.
That said, it's possible to tell stories with Sonic without Eggman as Maekawa proved with the two storybook titles.
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>>544039723
Ew do you want dogshit art? No thanks.
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>>544040079
Rank up
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>>544039616
Tails in the manga has to contrast Nicky whose whole shtick is being Tails.

He's a bullied loser with confidence issues desperately wishing he was stronger and stuff. Only difference is that he doesn't even know Sonic, and is frustrated when he hears everyone else talk about him. So when Tails himself is introduced, he's wearing shades and acting like a bad boy, with his own backstory with Sonic only vaguely described in-passing but is otherwise not visible in his character overall.

Manga Tails is more like Sonic because Nicky is too much like Tails. It's basically like, the very premise of the manga is "What if Tails and Sonic were two sides of the same person?", which makes Tails himself redundant.

>>544039685
>Amy is not really supposed to be an idealized flawless woman.
This isn't really accurate at all. Amy at her core is precisely an idealized girlfriend archetype at her core, and most if not all of her flaws are largely part of her built-in trope of being that "girl" character and what's expected of women in general but only as far as being the female equivalent to what Sonic is as an idealized mascot in general.

Sonic has "flaws", but they're directly attached to what makes him a flawless paragon at the same time. That's basically how Amy is. Her greatest strength is her passion, so her own temper and bratty attitude come directly from that because it's the exact same factor that makes her extremely compassionate and intensely loving.

Overall, the fundamental idea of what Amy is like in a general archetypal sense is most-commonly a love interest for someone like Tails or any sort of underdog character. Of course the girl in question will still be a "person", but from the POV of any protag that's like Tails, who she is as a person is initially always outweighed by the very idea of "Oh my gosh, I just talked to a GIRL".
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>>544039723
No one but Discord and Twitter pedos care about the retarded whiteboard.
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>>544040894
Never moved past being shoved in lockers I see?
Hmph! How pathetic.
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>>544041067
You seem to care enough to say this though...
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>>544040118
>the easiest way to have you derail the thread starts with something that will eventually lead to one or more of these things.
Like, what... Amy? Or Sonic being a "cool" "mascot"?
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>>544041206
Draw me a shitty mina pls.
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>>544041067
You reply over and over and over about it.
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>>544041206
Pedos who draw slop need to leave
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Bawitdaba, da-bang, da-bang, diggy-diggy-diggy
Said the boogie, said up drop the boogie
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>>544041065
I value the opinion of my lover, my friends, and the society in which I live far more than you or any other schizo on this board.
i like Shadow and Maria not because I'm trying to "imitate" you but because I grew up reading Shadow and Maria fanfiction and consuming Shadow and Maria fan art. I love the ship. it has little to do with you. if anything, your abhorrent behavior makes me feel second hand embarrassed for liking the ship. In the same way that Richmunk makes me feel embarrassed for liking Sonally.

I wanted to talk about Shadow and Maria because I was trying to get the thread back on topic with Sonic discussion, but it appears you're too autistic and socially inept to understand that and would rather talk about trannies than Sonic.

I question the extent to which you're a Sonic fan since you make everything about trannies and constantly bring up my identity when this is an anonymous imageboard.

This is /sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog general. Not /satg/ - Seething at Trannies general.
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>>544041582
Shut up krack
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>>544041582
>My lover
please leave the dog alone
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Best character!
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>>544042862
Best boy!
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Sucking Tails' dick.
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>>544042952
^-^
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>>544042954
>t. pachi_rizuu
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>>544043084
^-^
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it's pedo time
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>>544041582
>I wanted to talk about Shadow and Maria because I was trying to get the thread back on topic with Sonic discussion, but it appears you're too autistic and socially inept to understand that and would rather talk about trannies than Sonic.
Whatever Krack was trying to say about her opinions on trans people completely devolved into lusting over Shadow, it's clear which one she loves talking about the most.
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'ge
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Amy
slurp
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Tailsbro saves the thread again.
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I'm gonna post my OC :D
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>>544044741
I wish to see him.
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>>544040315
Sonamy is pushed by Sega.
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>>544044042
Can someone edit the reflection in his eyes with Big Giant cock?
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>>544044904
I don't have any to shitpost about unless I start scraping through comic characters, and that's just too easy. Like a low hanging fruit
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>>544044741
Nobody cares woefag
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>>544044673
Yay
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>"huff huff"
>"The whiteboard is a pox to the community of /STHG/, it damages the sanctity that we have built by just letting anyone who doodles take part in our sacred order"
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>>544040315
it didn't get spammy enough to piss me off. feel free to add it to yours
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>>544045214
No :)
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>>544045535
Oh, so your filter is basically a list of twitter users you'd personally block. Kys.
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>>544045509
I still would that amy
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Meme Maker 2 is pretty good.
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Shipperfags making it obvious they can't handle the fact that they are annoying as hell and seething because someone did something about their autism
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>>544045946
it's shit that gets spammed daily and has high chances of derailing a thread or starting drama due to autism ......and shit that pisses me off personally yes. I don't like sonamy but I don't care enough to block it ...yet
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>>544046280
Shipperfaggot kys, go back to twittee
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>>544035239
IT SHOULD BE ME, NOT HIM
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>>544046041
wtf is this
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Tails! Yay!
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>>544046634
Meme maker 2.
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>>544046703
- Said everyone ever
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>>544046891
Yuppp
Cute boys!
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"IDW has different characterizations from the games and I LIKE it that way" is honestly based and honest even though I can't fathom that perspective
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Why is Charmy named like "Charmy Bee" like the more western characters?
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>>544047810
rolls off the tongue better
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80% of the population is just Amy Rose in disguise. She doesn't even know she's pretending to be 80% of the population, but she is. Only 20% of us are real.
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>>544047810
Miles "Tails" Prower
Amy Rose
the "X the Animal" format didn't become the default until Knuckles
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>>544048019
Man, if only...
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>>544048021
Didn't Sonic's band follow the "X the Animal" naming scheme though?
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>544048019
SILENCE! I am Amy Rose, the cutest hedgehog girl in the world. I have a BIG butt, and I will put it to work. I want to mate with humans. Better not interfere, OR ELSE
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>>544048021
There's some other manga characters that have real names too.

>>544048413
Yes but Anon said "the default"
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>>544048936
Or else what? You fat assed blobian
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>>544048936
If only...
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>>544048893
BBW?
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>>544049252
Or else I will take you by force the HARD way
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>>544049359
Big Beautiful Woman
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>>544037489
>I transitioned because I was bullied for being a boy
Someone months ago compared transitioning to Tails cutting off one of his tails. It seems he was even more right than I realized.
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Is the Duo guy here? Are you going to release a Whisper lora?
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>>544048893
Conductor
Knuckles
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>>544046041
I see an option for scale, but I can't select it no matter what i try, anyone know?
I need low poly giantess Amy.
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Does this place just fight about the same 3 ships every day
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>>544050829
>Does this place just fight about the same 3 topics every day?
ftfy, and yes
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The point of the SonAmy dynamic, really, is that Amy is a highly idealized girlfriend figure that any guy, like Tails for example, is expected to wanna chase and obsess over. That's why this trait and dynamic is projected onto mascots like Mario and Mickey. This is where Sonic shines as the COOLER version of Mickey, because as a freedom-incarnate adventurer, chasing after a girl is the last thing he'd do.

And as a result, the script has been flipped. Now, it's the "ideal girl" that's chasing after HIM, the ideal guy. Sonic is so cool and awesome, he'd never simp over a girl or care about wanting a girl's attention. No, the girls simp over HIM, they want HIS attention. But if they want any time with him, they'll have to catch him first!
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>>544050551
This is porn, isn't it...
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There are people who actually believe Sally and Maria aren't lovers.
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>>544031270
Watched the video, and its kinda insane how someone could understand why people shit on IDW but at the same time miss the point entirely. Like he basically just outlines the differences between IDW and game Sonic but then dismisses those who find them to be flaws by saying they sound crazy only to, by the end of the video, say that its the critics who are putting down any discussion about the comic and that he hopes his video can lead people to talk about IDWs "real flaws." He also pointed out how frustrating it is for the comic to focus so heavily on Sonic's morality despite the comic being incapable giving an answer in either direction. Like he SEES the problems with the comic but then just handwaves them away and still thinks he's right by the end, its honestly kind of amazing.
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>>544051267
Plenty. It's much harder to find someone who does.
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>>544051243
What gives you that impression?
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>>544051381
Perverts will look at this and immediately think something sexual.
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>>544051290
I think the conundrum you are having is because this IDWfag is fully capable of stating the facts (IDW Sonic does not behave the way he does in the games and has many invented character traits) but still lands on a subjective conclusion different from yours (IDW is good windnic is bad).
His point of view is extremely disagreeable and at the end of the video he clarifies that if IDW was shut down and he had nothing but windnic he would lose interest in Sonic.

In this sense he's doing nothing wrong. Unlike most IDWfags he isn't insisting that these character traits are consistent. The most contentious point he makes is disregarding the phrase "out of character" while still ultimately subscribing to it.


This isn't some person who defensively feels the need to claim IDW is written like the games, this is an IDW fan who does not like the writing from the games and does not want it in his favorite comic.
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Tails gets a new game but its all about him fucking women. Who do you hire to make it?
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^-^
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>the opening quote
Randomfox and people like him have done nothing but hurt IDW discussion. IDW is ooc but now you can't say this without sounding like you align with a fucking psychopath who suffers emotional break downs when Sonic uses modern zoomer speak.
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>>544052038
Coolkyousinnjya
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>>544051818
>he had nothing but windnic he would lose interest in Sonic.
This is a good thing. He should fall out of the series because he doesn't like it to begin with. It has nothing else for him and he shouldn't demand Sonic change to be more like IDWnic just because he enjoys it more when real fans of the series like Sonic as is.
>this is an IDW fan who does not like the writing from the games and does not want it in his favorite comic.
Another reason why IDW shouldn't be canon. IDWnigs couldve been their own little bubble separate of the main franchise like Archie once did. Every complaint and characterization discourse would fall flat on its head because it'd be it's own universe bound to its own rules. Like the movies are. But according to the idw staff/soa, it's apparently canon and as long as thats true, it should try to be written more like the games instead of being a misrepresentation of it.
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With Tails, the focus of his character circles back around to how cool Sonic is and why you should want to be like him, and this works.

With Amy, the focus of her character circles back around to how cool Sonic is and why you should want to be like him, and this works.

With Knuckles, the focus of his character circles back around to how cool Sonic is and why you should want to be like him, and this DOESN'T work actually!

If the RIVAL character is written from that perspective too much, they end up becoming a "joke". Oh man, Knuckles is sooo stupid, he's just a meathead, amiright? Look at him, always getting tricked by Eggman. Idiot. Stupid. "Strong"? Please, forget never beating Sonic in a fight, he never does anything cool! But SHADOW, though...

Stupid opinions like that run amuck as a result of how badly Knuckles is treated, because Sonic is put too much on a pedestal. The very idea that someone like Knuckles could ever challenge him is not taken seriously, and you know what? This does not work for either character.

Knuckles is the Anti-Sonic. The antithesis to Sonic. If Sonic is the Wind, Knuckles is the Mountain. Sonic uses the Chaos Emeralds, Knuckles guards the Master Emerald. Therefore, if Knuckles is treated as a joke... Then the very concept of "Responsibility", of the opposite to Sonic's freedom, is being reduced to a joke entirely.

The very counter-argument against Sonic himself is treated like a joke. That's not good, it only makes Sonic himself look bad if his counter argument has to be reduced to such a pathetic example just to make Sonic look cool.

If Sonic himself is not challenged in any legitimate way by his thematic opposite, then we fail to see why Sonic's themes even matter. What is the point of Sonic being "like the wind" if we don't have a SOLID example of what a "mountain" is like by contrast?

The same way Eggman needs to pose an actual threat, Knuckles should pose a direct challenge to everything Sonic stands for.
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>>544052372
The characters used to only be skins early on, right? Cool that they let him fly
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It's refreshing seeing an idw fan just buckle down and admit they don't even like how the games are written in the first place instead of trying to prove themselves to purists
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Get mad all you want, IDW isn't Sonic.
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>>544052174
This.
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Yea but you know what is Sonic?
>cums on your face
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>>544051818
See, if he was JUST giving his opinion that would be one thing, even his him saying that Unleashed's story is bad can be ignored as just a subjective opinion being (in the most charitable view) unintentionally presented as a fact. But its the way he characterizes and tries to argue against detractor on the comic that's the issue. He's not just saying "I disagree these are flaws" he's saying "you guys are discussing this comic wrong and I hope this video helps you talk about its real flaws." He says that people who talk about the character inconsistencies look insane from the perspective of other people, which even if true, is clearly a stance he also holds. Like its apparent he views the critics as haters rather than just simply trying to present a his personal feelings on IDW.
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>>544052174
This. The real issue is that the worst and most annoying people shit on this comic and do so in a completely retarded way that makes anyone else critical of it look bad by association. Like those people who actually call for the death of Ian.
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>>544025509
>>544025795
Reddit and Bluesky are to your right
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>>544052174
Quoting someone I knew, Random and others made Flynn a "martyr" for the criticism. Then again, that someone was weirdly parasocial.
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Through Tails, Sonic has to be emphasized as a larger than life symbol that we should all aspire to be like.

Through Amy, Sonic has to be romanticized as an ideal figure with a pure heart full of compassion, as someone who always comes rushing in to save those in need.

Through Knuckles, Sonic has to be torn down and demonized as a highly destructive force of nature with no sense of responsibility, whose actions only spread chaos that has to be reigned in and "mastered", only for that perception to be subverted in the end.

Through their combined perspectives, we see Sonic and the impact he has on the world. For better or for worse. Knuckles is very important here because he provides a necessary counter-argument Sonic so that Tails and Amy aren't trapping us all in an echo chamber of why Sonic is literally Jesus Christ.
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>>544053387
It's an idwfag that feels threatened that the thing he enjoys will be lost to people who dont like the media and want it to be something different for their enjoyment.
Basically they're becoming the reverse of everything they ever complained about windfags and jp purists. Doesn't feel great to have something you enjoy get changed to please haters now does it? I hope Barnes doubles down on making idw more like the manga
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>>544053550
Not a single person knows more about Sonic characterization because of these people. Not a single shipper is swayed to believe it wouldn't fit. Not a single comic fan convinced otherwise. All they have accomplished is making people upset..no actual progress in their original goal of discouraging mischaracterization. Spergouts help no one except the people who want to sit back and watch the fandom burn.
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>>544053978
God I fucking loathe Sonic Forces.
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>>544025509
Transgenderism is against freedom.
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Look out down below
Sonic is on the go
Can't stop this party 'til we save the world
This time not alone
we've got some friends along
And as a team we can become even stronger
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>>544054265
How?
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>>544054465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icnk4BDf0Es
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>>544054146
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Post something good
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>>544052783
I love the fact that his sword handle got his cuff
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>>544025509
Sonic was always about being yourself even if you're weird or if you get bullied for it. You are trying to get someone to commit suicide because you couldn't force her to agree with you
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>>544054665
It would explain a lot. Thanks for informing me about this, anon.
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>>544052760
>It's refreshing seeing an idw fan just buckle down and admit they don't even like how the games are written in the first place
What where?
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>that font
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>>544054773
Here you go bro
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>>544054864
>You are trying to get someone to commit suicide because you couldn't force her to agree with you.
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>>544054298
Female hands made this post
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>>544055074
What? That looks normal
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>one year since Shadow Gens and no retrospective post
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Fist porn art of Magani lets go

https://files.catbox.moe/2lcpxn.png
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>>544053387
I think the uploader has a point. OOC discussion has clogged IDW discourse. The problem with the "Kill Eggman" debate is not the fact that Sonic is OOC. It's the fact that on a meta level all children of reading she already know Eggman isn't going to die in this comic so the conflict is wasting our time on a concept that it can't explore.
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>>544054552
Like all American progressive projects it's really just a vehicle for imperialism under the guise of morality. Its proponents demand that you abide and stop thinking.
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>>544055317
it existed, it was good, people liked it. *shaking you* what more do you want
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>>544055009
This I think >>544031270
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>>544055380
*First
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>>544055380
>Fist porn
Well she has a fist
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>>544055504
ALRI-
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>>544055317
When a product is good, nobody cares. Its only the mediocre, bad or different that awakens the moronic spergs of the community.
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>>544053387
>says that people who talk about the character inconsistencies look insane from the perspective of other people, which even if true, is clearly a stance he also holds. Like its apparent he views the critics as haters rather than just simply trying to present a his personal feelings on IDW.
The video opens with a Randomfox quote why wouldn't he think purists are insane
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>>544055397
>it's really just a vehicle for imperialism under the guise of morality
Aren't the side opposing such "morality" supporters of imperalism cases too? Those Sonic fans decrying the "woke", isn't this the same case?
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>>544031453
Unfortunately for you, Anonymous, I, the Riddler, am the superior E. Nigma here. I'm afraid your canine caricature's short stature is almost certainly proportional to the size of her cerebral cortex; INFINITELY smaller than mine.
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I hate Big
For really no reason
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Knuxouge vs Shadouge has nothing to do with Rouge or Shadow.

It is purely about Knuckles the Echidna and how he largely stopped existing as a character at a certain point even when his character design is still in use.
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>>544056283
We have you a game about Knuckles and then Penders sued us so you get nothing
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With how annoying discourse is, I imagine Flynn and Evan just don't engage with the fandom anymore. Hell, my conspiracy theory of the day is that Sega never told Flynn anything about "supervising the Sonic questions", and he lied just so people get off his tail.
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>>544056621
And stop getting easy money?
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>>544056718
Such money wasn't worth it. Even a beggar have to be a chooser.
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>>544044636
She sip.
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>>544048498
A bunch of "No true Scottman" in your nonsense.
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>>544056283
Edgehog wank and shonenfags have ruined this franchise.
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>>544056621
They would become better writers if they stopped.
They won't, they crave attention.
They tried to make the franchise about them, and now they're facing the backlash from it.
Simple as.
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>>544051225
>Amy
>Ideal
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>>544057379
This sounds like projection.
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>>544031270
Yeah no nigger, also buy an ad
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>>544057551
This reply sounds like projection.
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>>544057190
Shadow didn't ruin anything, by him just existing.

If you're a Tails fan and you hate Shadow because he stole Tails' place as Player 2 with all of Sonic's abilities but with the orange/yellow aura instead of blue... You're putting your dissatisfaction in the wrong place.

Having an entire second Sonic works just fine as long as the actual core characters around Sonic himself are still being built up enough on their own. The problem isn't anything to do with Shadow himself, it's everything being so heavily imbalanced that all that matters is Sonic himself, to the point that the only other character given respect is a Sonic clone.

Shadow is just a symptom of a larger issue of hyper focusing way too much on Sonic himself and how cool he is. I think Sonic is the coolest thing ever, but putting too much emphasis on that only counteracts the genuine coolness of it. Sonic shines brighter when the other characters are also allowed to shine. He lifts others up, not push them down. They should NOT be trapped underneath his SHADOW.

The idea that the ONLY worthy rival for Sonic is his own dark copy is a detriment to the series and Sonic himself. It has nothing to do with Shadow the Hedgehog as a character himself, it is purely an issue with how the franchise as a whole and all of its characters are handled.
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I pray that one day the franchise gets a reboot, and Team Dark are the only characters to return
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>>544056283
completely backwards post, knuckles can stand on his own (as shown twice in this decade alone) while rouge needs to latch on to another character to exist

>>544055380
>silly glasses instead of the sexy helmet
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>>544057998
>completely backwards post, knuckles can stand on his own (as shown twice in this decade alone) while rouge needs to latch on to another character to exist
I think you missed the point I was trying to make.
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>>544057965
What the fuck is that alternate timeline
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>>544057965
you're getting a shadow subfranchise so
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>>544057965
You just want a Shadow the Hedgehog series without Sonic and his pals.
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>>544055949
Your quotation marks denote that you're not very well read. You should look into the origins of the things you're advocating for before you advocate for them.
To answer your question. There's a diverse range of views opposing "woke"(which has become an even more useless buzzword now that Woke Right is a thing) but anti-wokesters generally aren't moralists or have an ideology that enables moralism(though some do). Progressive moralism demands compliance and for people to stop thinking or ask questions on certain topics. Some of its opponents have those same tendencies but that doesn't negate the imperialism of western progressives.

I'm glad Sonic Blitz is bringing classic characters to Modern.
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>>544058439
Mighty and Ray are classic styled again.
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>>544057909
aughh... god,
this art style is foul...
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>>544058102
you could've explained your point in your reply then, if you have one
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>>544051225
Maybe in the 90s, but a girl chasing after a guy's affection forever isn't cool today. It only services the male fantasy.
RIP to the old Amy!
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>>544057756
TRVKE!
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>>544058932
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>>544058710
The point is that Knuckles' own characterization fell off hard after SA2, if not SA1. To the point that many people fail to recognize him as Sonic's rival, or the actual strongest character.

Rouge is just one example of how a concept inherently built around Knuckles initially became entirely divorced from him in everybody's minds, and her primary usage in the long-run has nothing to do with him, but Shadow. The one everyone focuses on as Sonic's rival in Knuckles' place. And I say "in Knuckles' place" there because of the thematic undertones people will apply to Shadow that SHOULD be Knuckles' themes, but they overlay it on Shadow instead.

It's basically like Knuckles doesn't exist as a character. Everything he's supposed to be just stopped existing where it really matters, and all that's is just his character design being puppeted around.
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>>544058932
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>>544057925
Shadow is inherently a problem because he's a second protagonist and his stories require other characters to explore his themes and give him context because he's a Mary Sue.
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>>544058932
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Dont make OCs at all
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>>544058439
I see. I just wanted to know what was the origin of your thought. You've noted that both sides can share this tendency to demand compliance. What, then, would make one instance of this tendency more justified or less 'imperialistic' than another? Is it the specific content of the demand, or something about the way it is enforced?

I'm excited to see more Classic characters reinterpreted to 3D in Blitz. I wonder if the Witchkarters will use their IDW designs.
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>>544059173
You're right but it's moreso that Sonic Team are incompetent with their own creations

Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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Hello there lads!
I have stumbled upon the full Sonic sticker book that just released and I just came here to ask if this is worthy of being posted in the thread. It seems like this would have virtually no audience.

https://xcancel.com/Sonic_Hotspot/status/1982118470176125274
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bootleg Sally and bootleg Ray
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>>544028520
There was really nothing to her. She really just appeared briefly. But the fandom has made fanart for less, so maybe she's just not interesting to people. Man, I guess IDW has really been floundering on making characters people care about nowadays.
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>>544059701
they're promoting the emeralds too much
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>Y-you look just like her...
>Huh, who the hell ar-
>Can you do the things she did too...?
>... 100 rings up front and another $50 for any freaky stuff.
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>>544056187
Aren't you supposed to leave riddles?
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>>544059701
I'm tired of the constant Generations asset reuse. They've been doing this since 2011
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>>544059092
>a concept inherently built around Knuckles initially became entirely divorced from him in everybody's minds
kek, you wish. when it wasn't clear whether rouge wouldn't be in the movieverse everybody thought she would appear in his series first
>and her primary usage in the long-run has nothing to do with him, but Shadow.
rouge appears when the devs feel like it, she's not attached to any character in particular. in dream team and prime she gets to hang out with knuckles instead.
>The one everyone focuses on as Sonic's rival in Knuckles' place.
shadow only gets prioritized as sonic's rival when shadow is the focus of the story.

honestly if shadow and rouge was so clear-cut then i don't see why you'd post these copes every day.
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>>544060563
Maybe there is something in the air that is making artists in this community less interested in fanart. Something that is affecting them.
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Amy raped my fav and she's gonna do it again and more in the movie
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>>544059501
I mean yeah but only because Adventure was the conclusion of the classic era lore, the result of a series of progressive refinements. They're tapped out.
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>>544062147
Anon the human x blobian husband/wife
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>>544062147
Me and my Mobian husband and wife
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>>544062147
me x lanolin
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>>544060906
It's called "Not Reading IDW Syndrome".
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I wonder how Maekawa is doing with his franchise
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>>544063319
Possibly better than with Sonic. Or not, like it happened to Yuji Naka and most people who worked in this series.
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>>544060867
>shadow only gets prioritized as sonic's rival when shadow is the focus of the story.
NTA but, in Sonic Generations is a game focused on Sonic's whole history and Shadow got a boss fight over Knuckles. I feel that is a clear example of Shadow getting prioritization over other characters.

Rouge being a Team Dark member is more important than her being Knuckles' Dark story analogue in SA2, but I also feel like ST has tried to have Rouge be a more flexible character after 06, as shown in things like Prime but even then, she usually preludes a Shadow appearance.
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>>544063319
The fans of the other series he's working on don't call him a child abuser for saying girls are cute, so probably well
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>>544026906
No. Objectivists despise altruism, and that defines Sonic to a T. An objectivist would be defined by rational self-interest.
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>>544064247
Is Eggman an Objectivist?
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>>544064484
No, he is a looter. Compare him with Andrew Ryan from Bioshock and he doesn't resemble him at all.


AI answer:
Dr. Eggman is not an Objectivist. He is a Technocratic Tyrant or a Megalomaniacal Collectivist. He doesn't want a society of free individuals; he wants a personal empire where all value and all life are subservient to his ego. He doesn't produce; he plunders. He is, in Randian terms, the "moocher" and "looter" par excellence, who seeks to build his kingdom on the stolen energy and forced labor of others. Sonic, as the embodiment of untamed individual freedom, is his natural and perfect enemy.
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>>544063319
I think he's doing fine with his derivative XSEED-published weebslop
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>>544063969
>I feel like Sonic Team
Well you're wrong, that's just the west. Sonic Team pretty much only cares about her relationship with Shadow. Same exact situation with Blaze and Silver.
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The most genuinely soulful era of the franchise is the Dreamcast era, and that's just a fact. Everything before was building up to that, and everything after is attempts to recapture that spirit.

Tails fans want Adventure Tails back.
Amy fans want Adventure Amy back.
Knuckles fans want Adventure Knuckles back.

The list goes on.

SONIC ADVENTURE (1 + 2) is the franchise's peak.
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>>544065321
>Knuckles fans want Adventure Knuckles back.
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>>544065510
>hrm counter point, Uh, you're wrong
>projection
>no
these are good replies, anything else retarded you want to throw in the face of overwhelmingly correct posts that blow your ass out?
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>>544063969
tbf the fight with knuckles in 3&k is nice and all but it isn't even the most iconic part of the game, if i was in charge i'd choose the mecha sonic fight or the doomsday zone chase to represent 3&k
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I always forget SA1/2 didn’t get a pc version in Japan until 2024, it’s funny seeing the Japanese Sega Twitter filled with comments complaining that they did that over modern ports to consoles
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>>544066978
>Amy in the back
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>violet lobby
naaaaaaaaaah
i pass
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>>544067275
SADX pales to CD and Sonic & Knuckles Collection for Windows 95
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>>544065321
>Everything before was building up to the Dreamcast Era.
Tell that to the Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic.
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>>544067275
Sucks but because it’s not a different SKU we can’t see how many copies it sold on Steam I think thought based on th charts of when it unlocked Steam it only had 200 new players so maybe 200 copies sold on PC in Japan
Dragon Quest 10 Offline on Steam in Japan only has like 10k copies and it’s one of the few Japan only titles on Steam I know of
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Does anyone know of a video to image sequence editor? Just unload the frames as pngs?
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I’m still mad Japan actually voted for SA1/2 to get Switch ports and Sega said no because it was a 3D game and because Americans used VPNs to vote too
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>>544067595
You are too poor to own the game.
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>>544065736
True, but Knuckles is the most enduring element of S3&K.
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>>544068207
????
how else i could have known that
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>>544068014
>tell that to [non-canon bonus from bloated advertising campaign feature]
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>>544068196
https://nintendoeverything.com/sega-ages-most-wanted-games-survey-results-announced/
SA1/2 are listed as one and it got number 18
Sonic 3&K also charted
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>>544028379
>meanwhile in the REAL WORLD
Going suicidal about chadver again?
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>>544068598
stay mad
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>>544068358
The cream picture.
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>>544066978
Why is Tails crying?
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>>544068885
What
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>>544069007
...y-yeah... he's...
crying and finding comfort in Sonic...
That's what's happening little timmy...
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>>544068398
Sonic teams poor relationship with Nintendo is the only thing fueling hope they don’t just put them on virtual console and make actual new ports.
Like fuck ever since VC dropped region locking Sega stopped rereleasing Advance games I don’t get why they’re so stingy about this shit
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>>544068389
You'll say this and then beg for the Chao Garden to come back.
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>>544068858
Source?
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>>544066978
>that amy
holy kek and canon
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>>544069109
that anon thinks xhe's the only person who posts cream in this general lmao
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>>544068858
yup another noid mindbroke by chadver
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Why did they remove a bunch of Rush music from Shadow Gens?
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SxSG doesn’t have DLSS on PC or Switch because Hedgehog Engine 2 isn’t DX12 based
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>>544065975
Are the lights even plugged in upstairs for her?
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>>544060741
What would be the point in leaving conundrums for you simple-minded apes to solve? My intellect so clearly surpasses yours that it would be an exercise in futility to try and wring meager droplets of amusement from your feeble attempts to best me. That is, unless, if you're up to the challenge. I'll begin with something even someone with your mediocre wit could deduce:
>I am a substance quite illicit; you'll be a shadow of your former self after your visit.
What am I?
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Is the site broken
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>>544069678
>>544069125
VC isn't a thing anymore

>>544069354
I don't care for the Chao Garden much, but that's also irrelevant, that was just a game feature not a bonus for combining two games

>>544071161
Yeah the captchas are broken for me too, I've been trying to make this post for several minutes
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Sonicbabs...oh, wherever could your fabled Switch 2 release of Sonic Racing: Crossworlds be? You could use the extra sales. Looks like you're missing out on those Switch 2 Christmas sales, too!

Hmmm, I wonder what happened?
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>>544071283
VC is just a library now instead of a scam where they try to sell you old games for insane prices like $5
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>it's getting worse
See you guys on /fast/
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>>544071624
It’s been pushed to 2026 for some weird reason
I’m guessing because Sega is trying to figure out what the fuck Nvidia even is
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>>544072043
Ugly.
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Am I missing out if I never played CD?
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>>544072273
Honestly, no
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Sally!
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>>544071634
You're paying for that "library". You stop having access to those games, as well as your save files, the moment you stop playing. Games are removed randomly without notice. Eventually the "library" will be shut down and you won't be able to keep any of it.
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>>544072043
only an hedgehog would love that trash
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>>544071624
I know you're roleplaying, but I really honestly don't understand how anyone could be a Nintendo fan in current day.
They must hate themselves or something.
-Sincerely, an ex Nintendo fan from the start of 2025
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>>544071624
>could use the extra sales
...I don't work for Sega, what would that do for me?
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Does it not bother you that /v/ needs a series of Crossworlds threads to organize matches because this general hates playing the games so much?
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>>544073497
Hey, I'd post lobbies here but I doubt any of you even bought the damn game
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>>544073979
I would join them if I had bought the game
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>>544072273
It's not difficult. Go find a BIN+CUE image and download Gens from somewhere, and spend an hour or two on it. You might like it!
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>>544074145
Understandable, I do recommend people wait for a sale though. Good game, terrible price.
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>>544073896
I now ship these two
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>>544074338
Infinite is fucking dead
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>>544074381
He isn't dead at all
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enigmaballs
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>>544074338
She is trying to kill him in that pic
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>>544074674
That can be interpreted as an invitation to have sex if you're mentally ill enough
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>>544074519
Tell me more
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>>544074674
it is called tsundere ok
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>>544075268
He just isn't dead. The same way Mephiles was trapped inside the seal but came back anyways
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>>544075815
What happened to him at the end of Forces? I never understood that
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>>544075886
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>>544072484
So?
The second Steam wants they can block me too, the second anyone wants they can stop me from playing games
I don’t care
Hell I can’t play my PS1 games on PS5
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>>544076219
god i wish that was me
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Happy SxsG anniversary
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F U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U UU U U U U U UU U U U UU U UUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU
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With the success of the Hyrule Warriors series how likely is it that Sonic gets a Musou?
The last Zelda one sold like 4 million, I think Sonic could do anywhere from 3-6 million easily.
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I love sonic crossworlds <3
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Can you guys share artists you like?
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>>544076871
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>>544076815
You can tell the only people who hate IDW are just salty Shadowfags
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>>544077073
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>>544077146
>Anon doesn't know about the game purist silver fandom
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>>544077265
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>>544077265
Sega needs to elaborate about Shadow's genetics. Like what would happen if he had kids
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>>544076995
gabs and yeonwu
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Sonic X is out of character
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>>544077471
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>>544077597
true
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>>544077519
>if he had kids
the squid has no penis
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Unreal engine won’t ruin Sonic
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>>544077810
Shadow the HEDGEHOG
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>>544077735
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>>544077597
it feels like Pollock eggman even in japanese , doesn't fit SA2 aura at all
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>>544077146
>You can tell the only people who hate IDW are just salty Shadowfags
?????????

>Not Sonicfags who hate when his character is tied down to anything, let alone the restoration or a no kill rule that he has already broken
>Not Silverfags furious at how Evan completely broke his character
>Not Amyfags who are seething that Ian goes out of his way to downplay the pairing

Shadow is barely in IDW at all what the fuck are you talking about Jessie
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>>544077146
Or people that like good writing.
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>>544077519
Parasitic, maggot-like Black Arms newborns would devour the female host inside-out.
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>>544077935
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>>544074519
>>544075268
>>544075815
Infinite is dead.

He died in a Sonic Channel Story when the Phantom Ruby was dropped into lava and was destroyed and, since the Ruby was apparently maintaining his physical form, he was destroyed with it.
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>>544077887
UE5 would
it would be suicide
>>544077908
>confirmed squid in his new dogshit mini game
>nooo! he is le EDGYHOG!!
cope
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Sonic fans trying to control the narrative doesn’t work since they’re usually wrong about the entire industry
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>>544078171
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>>544078219
>He can't have a penis because he has wings
Fuck off
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>>544077597
This is what he says in the japanese version, lol.
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>>544078396
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It's all a cooperate push, they never cared about the fandom or the joy of gaming and Sonic, they care only about our pockets
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>>544078210
They can do all of that for Infinite but not expand upon Silver's future
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>>544078034
X Eggman also breaks the fourth wall repeatedly in japanese. He's very comedic compared to the game version.
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>>544078619
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>>544077146
Idw fans just say anything, wow.
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>>544078719
Silver is too important anon, they gotta make sure everything is perfect before they commit anything to him.
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>>544077343
>>544078049
They are all falseflag Shadowfags because he doesn't appear enough in the comics, and when he does he only jobs, that's why the shitpsot and cherrypick any little inconvenience
>>544078072
It's good, just simple for the kids
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>>544078719
What future? He's never going to show up again after his creator dies
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>>544078719
Nakamura wants Silver to have his own game first. There will be no Silver lore until "Silver the Hedgehog™" is on shelves.
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>Black Doo
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>>544078210
>that last part
WHY THEY HATE INFINITE SO MUCH FUCK!
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>>544078879
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>>544078949
too bad anon , people inside ST love the creature
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>>544079204
>Heart pupils
Wft? It was gay erotica the entire time?
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>>544078210
Is this considered canon?
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>>544079304
Does it have to be?
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>>544079292
Then why haven't they done anything to flesh out Silver?
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>>544032501
So the ending to Sonic Rush depending on your perspective?
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>>544079075
It may be a Lord of the Rings reference, though maybe I'm giving ST too much credit, lol.
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>>544079760
Reminds me of the crew of the Flying Dutchman in POTC
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"return to form" means we are out of ideas and we're going to replay what we used to do back then
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>>544078949
You're telling us his creator is showing him up?
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I really do wonder what Nakamura even thinks of Silver at this point. Like surely the story of 06 was not his vision for the character he originally created considering how the game was developed. It really feels like Maekawa did the heavy lifting for both Shadow and Silver.
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next poster must act OOC and post something they usually wouldn't
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Sonic the Hedgehog is NOT the Wind
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>>544079204
Where is the rest
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>>544031594
its a tale the japs love to reference because vega and altair two lovers turned stars get separate and only can reunite one time a year
Without context it really doesn't fit at all. The problem comes with this picture that Sonic channel released years ago.
Not only that but they released a Blaze one with the same pose and with apples and a maple leaf. Japan fans already associated then with that because of the silver 06 ending but those two pics confirmed that even SEGA saw them that way.
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>>544080692
Now that that's out of the way,

Sonic the Hedgehog is, in fact, the Wind.
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>>544080345
Nakamura might as well just tells us his vision and ideas for Silver, cause Silver ain't gonna get a game in his lifetime
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>>544080345
Nakamura had a direct hand in 06 compared to something like Rivals and more importantly trusted Maekawa to do the writing for Silver in the first place. Potentialver fans do this every time to hide their displeasure as Nakamura's
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Be honest, how many of you actually bought Crossworlds?
And are you lurking in the /v/ thread
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>>544080725
Thats all the artist had planned
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>>544025509
>Sonic was always about freedom, being transphobic is against everything Sonic stands for
If you are free then you are also free to be transphobic
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>>544080345
The film is the chance to redeem Silver
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This fandom got so paranoid from past mistakes that they get extra toxic in hopes of avoiding them
The issue with this? they believe they're in control.
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>sees all the fangirls (and fanboys) coming to glomp him
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>>544081124
I bought it, beat the single player and went back to Mario for multiplayer
I’m not gonna deal with the struggle of finding matches without bots and /v/eekends are normally more full
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>>544081145
>Ending when characters finally have to interact
Stupid fujo
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>>544081124
loved the demo
didn't bother buying crossworlds
sorry :*(
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>>544081256
As if they would pick Silver over literally anyone else
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>>544081082
In that case I just don't see how a Silver game by Nakamura won't just be 06 again.

>>544081256
I just don't see how doing 06 again will help.
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>>544079702
>Then why haven't they done anything to flesh out [any character] ?
People forget Shadow is the exception not the rule and just recently they are focusing on him
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>>544081870
>>544082192
Screencaped, see you next trailer
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people legit don't get how many slurpers would 06 have if the game wasn't broken with glitches and elise didn't kiss sonic lmao
Would unironically be above Heroes
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>>544082478
>rumor
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>>544082489
06 would still be a shitty Final Fantasy knock-off
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>>544082489
Nah people already dick ride it for its stupid themes that everyone else hates.
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>>544051267
Sally X Maria now that's a new one I've not seen before
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>>544082712
>.t 90s fag that grew up with the western Sonic lore
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>>544054773
Not got any new Zeena to post yet, though friend recently gave me a good deal to do 4 of the ideas I suggested to him for a discount
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>>544076339
You can play PS1 games on PS1.
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>>544082748
What stupid themes?
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>>544083001
I grew up on 2000s Sonic and love the Adventure Era and even I can see that 06 wants to be Final Fantasy
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>>544082539
This was before the movie was released, and now we know it hints at time travel. It all adds up, you need to stop coping
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>>544082489
>and elise didn't kiss sonic
Nobody would care about this part if the gameplay were good and glitchless. This was blown out of proportion because EVERYTHING ELSE was buffalo shit.
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>>544078210
Why is Infinite's existence tied to the Phantom Ruby when he already existed before Eggman found the Phantom Ruby?
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silverfags are delusional and think being in better product will somehow make tanabataslop more coherent and beloved by westerners as if the story itself wasn't the problem
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Delete Silver's future I don't care
Delete the tanabata I don't care
Just let me play as the psychic boy with decent gameplay
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Nine>Tails
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>>544082712
>>544083417
What makes it Final Fantasy?
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You've made quite a mess here, I'll accept your apologizes and payment with your lives!
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>>544083676
06 is fucking gay, the only thing people actually liked was Shadow removing his limiters and Mephiles' aura
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>>544082489
I don't know, Japanese games back then were getting a lot of flack in the West and 06 is very Japanese in themes and subject matter. Like a major story element in the game is based around an untranslatable Japanese idiom. ("Blue hedgehog")
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>>544084095
>Japanese games back then were getting a lot of flack in the West
Not by the target audience (kids). America's anti-Japanese racism is mostly gone among younger people at this point.
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>>544083417
And there's literally nothing wrong with that. The "Final Fantasy" complaint are specifically from 90s Sonic fans that despised how the franchise abandoned the western lore and fully embraced it's Japanese side.
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>>544083509
You see i would've agreed with you if you didn't post Shitaze
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>>544084013
the entire game is "what if Sonic was real" and its all fairytales, complex plots, weird lore, and angsty bullshit just like Final Fantasy

>fight the Islamic devil
>fight the Christain German devil
>a princess with a curse
>Sonic is revived by kissing a princess
>tanabata
>general obsession with royalty
>realism
It's just the whole package.
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>>544084076
Holy shit, this. We discuss the faggy themes to death but ultimately what wins is what is memorable for being cool, and the only things cool in 06 were Shadow and Mephiles
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>>544034417
non canon slop
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>>544084039
>You've made quite a mess here
What? filling her up?
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This weather, could be an omen.
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>>544084263
>racism
Nothing to do with racism retard. It's simply unpalatable to westerners (except weebs).
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>>544084625
So demon villains + princesses = Final Fantasy?
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>>544084617
Well, excuuuuuuse me
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>>544084769
That is IC
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>sonic CD
https://x.com/fuzeryy1205/status/1982181910051684649
So...sonic boom confirmed at least right? this is just west sloppa
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>>544084782
That somebody is going to shit themselves soon
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sa2 good 06 bad
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>>544083990
Nine takes Tails' initial origin story a step further, making him a deeper, amplified version of Tails' core traits and concept. That's what make Nine so cool, and what make him work so well in spite of Prime's plethora of problems.

It's to the point that he's not even just "What if Tails never met Sonic"... Instead, he becomes "What Tails always should have been like from the start".
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>>544084794
And yet that hasn't been the case in over a decade while anime keeps getting more and more popular in the west.
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>>544083790
IDK ask ST or Nakamura. I think it's because Eggman somehow bonded Infinite to the Ruby but no source goes into the details on what that entailed.
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>>544084625
>fight the Islamic devil
>fight the Christain German devil
>a princess with a curse
>Sonic is revived by kissing a princess
>tanabata
>general obsession with royalty
Almost none of these things are in a Final Fantasy game. People only say that because of the artstyle, which is dog whistle for "It's too anime for me".
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>>544084927
Huh
That's unexpected

>>544085050
It's weird because in the base game the Phantom Ruby is some kind of machine Eggman built after several prototypes, and Infinite is also a machine created by Eggman. But then Mania, the prequel comics, and Episode Shadow give the Phantom Ruby and Infinite completely different origin stories. I thought the original base game version was just retconned and ignored going forward, but apparently they're trying to make them fit. Or maybe it was always their intention, but that would be very weird and nonsensical
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>>544085230
Last time I asked what makes it Final Fantasy I was told it's because of Elise's face being anime like with otherwise realistic graphics in the prerendered cutscenes, iirc
Secondo to last time I was told it's because the game has a weird modernized fantasy town setting. Apparently anon didn't realize Europe exists
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>>544085230
>>544084835
you are actually fucking braindead and taking things literally

which do you think is closer to Final Fantasy: Adventure or 06?
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>>544085025
Sure but this was 2006, after GTA3 raised the age demographics of console gaming and the Brown and Gray era of gaming was just starting. A Tanabata-style fairytale about funny animals helping a princess learn to cry was going to struggle regardless of its quality.
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>>544084918
That is not canon.
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>>544084625
>angsty bullshit story
This and the art style are the two major reasons people that enjoy the 2000s games don't care about or even hate 06
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>sonic ova its also final fantasy
no......
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>>544085836
that is still IC regardless
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>>544085763
The Final Fantasy game I played had a giant floating island, so I'd say Adventure.
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>>544085772
I will not allow Resistance FoM slander in this thread.
Shit on Resistance 2 and 3 all you want, but I'll fight you over this one.
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>>544086003
pedantic midwit
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Wish I had a sonic crossworlds friend
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>>544086264
I've played some Final Fantasy games in the past, I see no significant similarities between the games I played and the game you're comparing them to. And you keep failing to convince me. I actually unironically do see more in common with Sonic Adventure, that is the answer to your question. That's not being "pedantic", you just don't like my answer because it wasn't the gotcha you thought it was.
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>>544085763
Adventure, actually. Final Fantasy X had multiple playable characters with their own stories while featuring a ancient race that got killed due to a wrathful god. Hell, both features water as the main theme for the game.
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>>544086549
other than the opening scene and barely there is nothing close to FF in 06
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Is sonic prime still going?
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>>544086174
Not trying to slander it, as I haven't played it. Just using it as an example of how the gaming industry in the West was changing, Japanese inspired scrimblo platformers weren't as viable as they used to be and in response studios were trying to pivot. Insomniac a made new IPs to cater to this new more mature audience, while ST tried to age Sonic up.
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>>544085772
>Sure but this was 2006
Yeah, the 2000's, the era with most weebs per m2.
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Does this person post here you think?
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IDW Sonic would have protected the neck guy
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>>544085763
Both. This is a trick question as FF changes every game and has a billion spinoffs; so I'm sure you could find a FF game that is thematically close to either or both the Sonic games you listed.
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>>544087142
Please fuck off.
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>>544083790
The anon got it wrong. That story involved the Phantom Ruby PROTOTYPES, not the real one.
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>>544087676
Why is Infinite's existence tied to "prototypes" of the Phantom Ruby? Why did Eggman make "prototypes" of something that already existed?
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Sonic should have writing like Metroid: Other M
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>>544085892
It's so stupid we have to constantly berate these autists trying to revise history. 06 was a deliberate escalation from the tone of the Adventure duology to establish Sonic for the next generation and returning it to its roots (Sonic is a kamikaze) and it was beyond the pale because it was too much Japanese fantasy, and they still think the problem was "muh bugs". Nobody wanted this gay shit.

>>544086842
>there is nothing close to FF
come on man

>>544086769
>ancient race
>wrathful gods
reasonable
>both features water as the main theme
retarded
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Evil Krack be like:
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>>544088048
Speak for yourself. The bugs are the main issue and the bad controls of some of the characters are my main issues with the game, I enjoy a lot of it otherwise
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>>544087093
>Yeah, the 2000's, the era with most weebs per m2
NTA but this was when Classic and SatAM fags were the majority in the Sonic community. If they were shitting on every Sonic title since SA1 and Sonic X too as a bonus, then they would have hated 06 regardless.
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>>544088037
Tails is the shittiest.
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>>544088048
Notice how we were able to point out actual direct similarities with Adventure while you have not been able to do the same for the other game. That entire point about it being "Final Fantasy" is just retarded.

>>544088296
Not him, but I agree with you, this is why I said >>544084263.
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>>544088048
>Calling me retarded when SA1 title screen and nearly all of it's promotional material features water as the main theme, which is no different from Final Fantasy X
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>>544085772
which is why Sonic Team should've doubled down on Shadow 05 themes instead of pussying out during that era
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SA1 is more FF/rpg than 06 by the way
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>>544088764
Come to think of it, it was literally conceptualized as "Sonic RPG"
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>>544088593
i hate sonic bombed. glad its gone
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>>544088936
or maybe both SEGA and MS are fucking RETARDED as a whole?
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>>544088296
The 2000 era was when anime and japanesque themes were at its peak in the west. Everything was Naruto, Inuyasha, Lucky Star and etc. I can't count the number of muh shadow saque there was... I game with a japanesque style story was no problem in the 2000 era, like how you were saying.
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Bun!
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>Shadow and Maria get sucked into a storybook adventure
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>>544089067
>saque
saske
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>actually Sonic Adventure 2 is more like Final Fantasy because it has animals with stats you can breed and hatch from eggs and feed fruit

>>544088260
I'm speaking for the average western child. People focused on the kiss because it was the climax of the game and the most notable example but people had problems with the tone of the entire game.

>>544088472
Because you are actually too retarded to pick up on anything other than surface level traits because you're a pedantic retard.

>>544088764
Like I said I can at least sympathize with this somewhat, but the tone is way off, it's still an adventure.
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>>544089067
I think it was on the rise in Internet communities, getting bigger and bigger every year, but still pretty hated overall, especially by older people.
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>>544088740
They probably would have double down on Shad05's direction if 06 didn't fail and Sonic Team USA wasn't closed down for making a game about NiGHT's ass gamers weren't ready, it was too ahead of its time.
https://youtu.be/7dK2HEHJ41w?si=Tc0Jw6C2gi6-Y5LN&t=39
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>>544087791
You probably shouldn't think too hard on it. The story Infinite was in was a result of Eggman using a modified Phantom Ruby prototype to manipulate time and space and everyone's memories. Infinite became a result of it and was probably a fake. All of it was based on Sonic Channel votes and one of them featured Shadow and Infinite.
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>>544089239
There is nothing "pedantic" about any of this. You also keep failing to explain why the game is "Final Fantasy". Just admit you were wrong and move on. It was always a thoughtless, meaningless, nonsensical criticism and you embarrassed yourself by repeating it.
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New thread when?
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>>544089552
when it reaches to 750
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>>544089407
ftfy
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>>544089067
>The 2000 era was when anime and japanesque themes were at its peak in the west.
That's not really true. Anime was still mostly niche outside of shows like Pokemon(Which I shouldn't need to remind you how it heavily changed in the west) and Dragon Ball Z. It was that thing you would never talk about in real life or media sites that didn't specifically focused on anime, otherwise you would have been seen as a fat, ugly nerd with no friends.
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>>544072043
Cute gato
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>>544089825
ooc
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>>544089429
here's some AI slop comparing Final Fantasy to Sonic 06 because I'm too fucking lazy to type this out for you

>Characters are caught up in grand, fateful narratives about prophecy, sacrifice, or saving the world.
>Emotional delivery is often serious and operatic, even when the world is fantastical.
>Dialogue feels theatrical.
>Cutscenes and camera work heighten emotion as if it’s a live-action epic.

>Themes of resurrection, time travel, sealing evil gods, and love transcending worlds could be pulled straight from Final Fantasy X or Final Fantasy XIII.
>Even the tone of dialogue — the solemn way characters speak about chaos energy, timelines, and destiny — echoes Final Fantasy’s grandiose self-seriousness.

>In Final Fantasy — especially from FFVII onward — characters are positioned like performers in an opera, not just actors in a film.
>Scenes are composed to make emotions feel grand and universal, not casual or naturalistic.
>You’ll see:
>Wide, symmetrical compositions where characters stand apart facing each other, framed by grand backdrops (ruins, skies, cathedrals).
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as late as 2010 Pokemon was still the most culturally relevant Anime in the west what are you guys on about? Adults would be embarrassed to mention anime and portrayed negatively for years. Anime still is barely accepted.
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>shitposter had to use AI to make a point
at that point just use the rope anon , absolute failure of an human
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>>544090109
Eh....I sorta disagree. While anime was seen mostly negatively in the 2000s, it was embraced by the mainstream public in the 2010s thanks to FMAB, AoT, OPM, and especially JBA.
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>>544089247
>>544089868
On early 2000, yes. But as late 2006~2010 it was already big. Fate, Lucky Star, naruto shipuden. All those were around those times, when anime had a huge boom in the west.

>b-but those weren't accepted by normalfags
As if Sonic is anything different, if not worse.
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>>544090586
AI is the future. Even Sega is using it. Keep up or get left in the dust.
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i am reading the chaotix issue for the first time
Why do the black white ink art looks like absolute amateur dogshit?
Looks like they took nomal pics and put a black/white filter on them. Absolute no defined contrast at all
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>>544090884
Fate & Lucky Star aren't big in the west. Also it took until the Pain's Assault arc for Naruto to explode in the west in terms of popularity.
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>>544090034
Cope, seethe, dilate
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>>544090473
If Classic Sonic is the "toddler side" of the franchise, why do they use Modern characters and designs for this TikTok baby spinoff?
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>>544091063
Each one the chaotix tells the story their way with the art style in their head. vector looks like some old police thriller from the older days, espio looks more anime. and charmy is crayons
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>>544091063
It looks shit, but the point is to have black and white only. Nothing in between.
I think they were going for a noir thing, but should have studied the style a little more. Noir has more dynamic angles and not like, 60% dead space.
The problem was that they did a really bad job at it.
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>>544091279
i get that , is just that the art its legit amateur dogshit. They 100% used a filter
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>>544091063
Bad attempt at Sin City. I think it filtered a lot of people.
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>>544090069
Here's some AI slop to show you how stupid your use of AI was.

>CD — Both use time‑based narrative hooks and tonal shifts to create emotional contrast (Sonic CD’s past/present/future and its bittersweet “good future” endings mirror FF’s frequent use of time, memory, or alternate timelines and poignant resolutions, as in FF VI/IX), convey mood largely through evocative music and location changes, and center story stakes on saving lives and restoring balance rather than lengthy exposition.

>3&K — Both showcase expanding scale and increasing narrative scope while keeping a heroic tone (Sonic’s island-spanning conflict and elemental bosses resemble FF’s multi‑chapter journeys across varied regions), emphasize teamwork and character roles (Knuckles, Tails, Sonic akin to FF party members), and use music and dramatic boss encounters to mark story progression, paralleling FF entries that broaden their world and escalate stakes mid‑game.

>SA2 — Both juxtapose heroic and antiheroic perspectives to complicate moral tone (Sonic vs. Shadow mirrors FF titles that present sympathetic antagonists or rival viewpoints), communicate emotional stakes through cinematic music and pivotal boss encounters, and explore themes of identity, duty, and sacrifice—comparable to FF narratives that probe destiny and personal choice.

>Forces — Both present a darker, resistance‑style narrative with themes of oppression and rallying allies (Forces’ resistance against Eggman parallels FF stories about rebellion vs. empire), use dramatic music and cinematic boss encounters to emphasize tone, and explore themes of hope and perseverance under siege similar to wartime or uprising narratives in FF (e.g., FF VI/IX).

>Frontiers — Both use open, mysterious exploration and environmental storytelling, favor atmosphere and music over exposition, and build stakes through discovery and confrontations with ancient/forgotten threats—paralleling FF entries that use solitary exploration to reveal lore.
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>>544090586
it would be better to stay at NFTs imo
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>>544091063
It supposed to invoke the Sin City comic, but it probably doesn't pull off the aesthetic as well.
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Satam retelling but without the romance crap and it's actually as edgy as millennials insisted it was
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>>544090586
I'm not going to waste my time. Sonic Adventure 2 took design cues that make it feel like an action movie, Sonic 06 takes design cues that makes it feel like Final Fantasy.

>>544091750
oh look more pedantry
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>warned again for posting beautiful women
Y'all a bunch of fags
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>>544091809
Romance wasn't that big in SatAM. You're thinking of Archie again.
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>>544091809
there was barely any romance in there lol. but yeah I'd take it
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>>544091894
It's LITERALLY the same shit you did, just with the other games.
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>>544091670
Instead of doing Noir art , they just draw a normal page and put a dogshit filter on it
That tells me the artist only cared about the paycheck and rushed hard.
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>>544091894
Sonic Adventure 2 took design inspiration from Maekawa's favorite manga, not action movies. Sonic Adventure 2 has action scenes because Sonic is an action series.
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>>544091986
This.
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>>544091063
Also, the case of this
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>>544091961
if you can't tell the difference between Sonic Colors and Sonic 06 and how the latter is more like Final Fantasy then you're fucking retarded
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>>544091894
>Sonic Adventure 2 took design cues that make it feel like an action movie
go tell AI to teach you how to be better at arguments retard.
Like there is inspiration and there is being a goddam rip off
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Shadow needs a dicking
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Sonurge is the GOAT
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>>544091939
Also better animation
>>544091928
I am fully aware that Archie and even X focused more on romance than Satam. I have never liked romance in Sonic and I read romance.
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>>544089576
Sex
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super sonic speeds
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Tails the cuck.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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Imagine a villain character failed so severely that at least a fourth of her fanbase wants her to be a blushing tsundere for the hero
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>>544092410
Season 2's ending had genuine romance for a very subtle moment Sonic and Sally were kissing but it was for real and not for the keks like the time before but I agree.
>better animation
hell yeah. full SatAM remake but without twisting and babbifying the story. making it darker and more violent event
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>>544092542
GODiona
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>>544092591
>being a c*ck that follows you no matter what because your life its that empty
Tails
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>>544092135
>Sonic Adventure 2 has action scenes because Sonic is an action series.
SA2 remembers that it is a Sonic game first and a melodramatic japanese story second. Something 06 forgot and paid dearly for with it's reception to its story
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>>544092541
Is that real?
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Okay then I will remake SatAM
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>>544092963
Absolutely based
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Silver is officially insane
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>>544092821
yes, also live on a lil farm
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/ourguy/ is a classic cuck.
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>>544090462
I wanna know who thought Sonic being a cunt to his friends was in character for him when he's never acted that way in the games, now that I think about it, the only time Sonic's been a limey cunt to his side cast is all western material, he's a dick to his fleetway cast, a dick to the freedom fighters, an asshole to Sonia and Manic and he'd probably sell most of the cast to Eggman for a day of piece and quiet in Boom. I never read Archie but hear he's not nice to his friends in that continuity either Does the west just want Sonic to be an uncaring dick head? He's starting to act that way in the movies too with how he ignored Knuckles and Tails to chase after Shadow and bullied them into giving him the emerald so he could go kick Shadow's ass
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>>544093101
based alice pandering
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>>544093232
Sega's own fault for not telling third parties that Sonic is mature and never goes on arcs himself. It's a simple detail that is so under explained that even fans act like it's niche information. If Sega wanted his personality to match the games this is all it would take.
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>>544093469
>>544093469
>>544093469
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I'll be baking the fanon amy one please wait
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>>544093232
I laugh every time I see that clip where he makes Sonia cry and then thinks nothing of it.

"Short temper" is in all of his character descriptions even though Sonic is insanely level headed in the games.
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>>544093304
>cards
>baking
>loves the world more than themselves
>the same gay boots
Hear me out...
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>>544093201
>/ourguy/ is a classic chad
Based, the IDW classic comics were the only good ones, this also includes Scrapnik island which takes a ton of classic influence.
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>>544093506
kys spic
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>>544093201
>classic with green eyes
>"classic cuck"
No, he seems to be exactly what we need actually.
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Sonic aosth is the key.
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Sonamy wins again.
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