Stable Slut Edition>News03/10/2025: Bronzebeard Classic+ (BBC+) by Project Ascension has released.02/10/2025: Tauri WoD is out09/09/2025: Kaytoted BTFO'd by C&D, Ascension took over Epoch.30/08/2025 : Blizzard is taking legal action against Turtle: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127.1.0.pdf>Released ServersAscension - https://ascension.gg/en (BBC+, Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (WoD on Legion client, Legion content coming soon)Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)>GuildsTo join a guild, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, and whisper anyone for an invite.<gulag> - Tauri, Evermoon realm, Alliance<Evil> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire, crossfaction<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire, ERP guild >>>/trash/heals<Sisters of the Sunwell> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire, High Elf females only>TurtleAll Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/AddonsMisc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creationshttps://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX>VERY important linkshttps://catbox.moe/c/f2o09zhttps://catbox.moe/c/1ebph1>Previous Thread>>543671690
We are <Evil>We will not help youWe will not get you attunedWe will give BoEs to pugsWe will wipe to GarrWe are evilWhat are you going to do about it?
Stop raidlogging.
i dont get it, doing dungeons and helping members of the guild should come naturallydoes no one talk in guild chat?
>Stable Slut Editionknotsluts... our response?
man evil sounds more like a prison than a guild
>>544025490this guy is right you're all retarded. why would i stop raidlogging to carry you.
<Evil> is just FMC 10.0 where everyone hates each other and is bitter as fuck.Join <gulag> and enjoy the fraternity of a true 4chan guild.
>>544025808it's not hard to be better than <Evil> though, just help your guildmates
>>544025127>What are you going to do about it?Join <gulag>.
>>544026024if you're too retarded for post wotlk raids just say so bro
>WHY WONT YOU 4 STRANGERS RUN ME THROUGH BRD FULL QUEST RUN WITH HOJ FARM AND WINDSOR ESCORT? WHY ARE YOU BEING SO SELFISH RIGHT NOW?? I DONT HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE THIS GAME, SO WHY SHOULD YOU????
>>544026347Post-wotlk raiding is braindead, you molasses brained millennial.
The solution is very simple and also elegent: We start lootbanning people who raidlog and don't otherwise contribute anything to the guild.
you people just like to complainwe're clearing mc every week and thats all that matters for a guild
>strangersIf they're in your guild they aren't a stranger.
>>544026567bro your guild struggles with Molten Corejust admit your brain is too smooth for raids
>won't farm or buy consumables>won't help guildmates>raidlogs in green itemsjust kick them
>>544026651>make the guild even more hostilelets see how that works out for you. 4channers are truly socially retarded
>>544027115Aecheur won't do shit
>>544027115then we're back to pugging because not enough people
>>544027401you are already pugging when these guildmates only exist to loot epic items
>>544027115if you kicked everyone who did those things, the guild wouldn't be able to clear the first trash pull in MC
>>544027298Reminder that he said if you weren't enchanted or consuming you wouldn't get loot, and then next raid people showed up unenchanted with no consumes and still got loot. Faggot sucks off trannies with way bigger balls than him.
>no you can't kick out shitters!This is exactly what FMC said and you cried "weak leadership." Funny how a change of perspective has you singing a different tune.
Raura has restarted and quit 5 times and joined <Evil> every time. He hasn't reached 60 once. Why don't his guildies help him? <Evil> boosted Silkfang to 60 btw
>your guildies are "strangers" you refuse to helpWhy even have a guild?
>>544027954you do understand you would be considered one of those 'shitters', right?
>>544028218the leadership have their clique and do dungeons together, you just aren't invited
>>544027954post dpsyou would be the first to be kicked
when Turtle eventually goes down, I'm tempted to try out the vanilla solo mods and play offline
>>544028219I'm not in <Evil>. I'm in a guild where my guildies actually help each other out, and we geared up, got enchants, and consume for our raids. You know. Sort of like how every guild does. I'm completely baffled that your guild doesn't do this and tolerates such unacceptable behavior.
>>544028440at least the bots will help you get attuned and will be there to farm your dungeons
>>544028378>the leadership have their clique and do dungeons together, you just aren't invitedto be fair, nearly every guild I've been in since I started MMOs 20+ years ago has had this to some degree
>>544028586You've been in some shit guilds.
>>544028218No one in the guild helped me when I asked, so why would I help them?
>>544028437I don't DPS.If someone in my guild asked for help getting some attune and another guildie said "Why should I?" or something to that effect, that selfish prick isn't going to be in the guild any more. This shit never happens though because most functioning adults don't behave like this. You're all either underage or incredibly immature.
>>544028654they're usually optimized runs with specific loot agreements. it's not like they don't do normal guildie runs too
>>544028586I've been playing many years too and that happens in guilds with hundreds of people, not fucking 20, and the cliques will still help the rest of the guild occasionally
Join <Bullies> today whisper ALargeCat for invite vetted OG 4chan guild planning to raid
>>544028901I would just leave that guild. Every other guild is going to help you out.
>>544029192what server/faction you drongo
>"if you had kicked the shitters out of <fmc> the good anons would have stayed and you could have filled raids for naxx">"NO YOU CAN'T KICK THE SHITTERS FROM <EVIL> THEN WE CAN'T FILL RAIDS"They never learn.
This is not a problem in <Branded>, you can lick the tip of a member's cock and he will boost you through a dungeon
im just sitting here chillin on kronos, no hype, no players, just nice to be able to play chars i made back in 2015, dont think i can even do that on official blizz servers anymore seeing how they migrated to expansionsi find rare mobs i forgot or didnt even know existed
>>544029569<Branded> also clears Molten Core in an hour without wiping. Turns out helping your guild mates out (even if it is just to ERP with them) works out.
45th for never ever joining 4chan guilds because ew
>>544025351I'm no good at woggie posting
>>54402986569th for not my problem
>>544027115and that's why they are playing f2p wow :)
>>544030117doesn't make much sense>have a job>can afford a sub to play seasonal classic fresh>a NEET>has time to play the game for 14 hours a day
Why should I help any of you faggots? All you ever do is act like assholes. You talk shit about everyone in the guild constantly while hiding behind anonymity or in your shitty little cliquecords like cowards. I wouldn't even so much as spit on a single one of you if you were on fire. You think I'm going to waste my time getting you a hoj? Eat shit and live.
>>544026567Raiding has been consistently harder on every expansion, actually.>b-but it isn't that hard, mostly mechanics and spell bloat!Yet way harder than the low bar of banilla to WotLK raids.
>why should I help others I gots mine alreadyThis is peak nigger mentalityAsk the dumbest nigger tribesman in africa what they think and they would say thisLook at the state of any country in africa, is that what you want for your guild ?
>>544030402at least tribesmen help their own
>>544030402No, that's peak slav mentality.
>>544030402if your foundation is rotten there is no point of building upon itwhy would that anon waste his precious time on those people?
>need an item crafted>have the mats, be in the same city as the person with the profession>literally 2 feet away from an anvil>ask them "hey can you craft X, i have the mats">"go fuck yourself nigger, don't bother me"this happenedI had to pay 10g to a randomI can see why so many people complain about the guild
>>544029891What do you mean you're no good at it? It's easy as sinHere, watch me with this example
>>544028437~375
>>544031340After a month in <Evil> I’d say the exact same to you or anyone else asking for help. Fuck all you faggots.
>>543971772if there was a competition who please the most.Which team would win? Dogs or Horse? And who are the captains of both teams?
>>544031340How many items did you craft for them?How many dungeons did you run them through?How many times did you hang out and talk with them? You can't expect friendship and generosity from guildmates if you extend none to them.
>the whole guild runs on the cycle of abuse>none are willing to break itnice guild culture you got there, aecheur
>>544031340>"go fuck yourself nigger, don't bother me"This never happened.
I was in FMC and got help through all my attuned from the guild, and helped at least a dozen more attune as well. We were constantly running dungeons even when we had AQ40 cleared. Towards the end people definitely gave up. But up until the last month the guild was always really helpful.So what happened to that mentality, anons?
>it never happened but if it did happen you deserved itDude Just help your guild out.
>>544032281it's the fresh mentality of "MUST RUSH TO 60" and leaving guildmates behindthey get attuned, meanwhile over half the guild is below lvl 50
>gm treats people like shit and refuses to help them>wonder why the rest of the guild does the same
>>544032587I asked Aecheur for help getting attuned to MC and he told me to just pug it
Tauri.You join <gulag>We are besieged by latam monkeys.We need help.Now.
>>544032227thats an exact quoteits from the same retard that likes to spam nigger every raid like the edgy teen he is
>>544032773Senor Kazaak > Home of Gnomeosexuals and Furries
>>544032503I joined FMC late and was getting help in BRD and UBRS from anons in AQ40 gear. In some cases I didn’t even have to ask. The GM asked me if I was attuned for Emerald Sanctum and when I said no he ran me and another through the entire quest line.
>>544032773I am a LatAm spic and will join <gulag>
>>544033302Are you a spicy latina baddie?
>>544032281I was in FMC and rarely got help for my dungeons or attunes. Did the whole ony attune alone. I asked for help at every step. I still did help others afterward. There was a lot of selfish people in FMC who were too busy ERPing with their buddies instead of helping others.
>>544032281I was happy on nord
freshfag servers are always filled with selfish people, but <Evil> is on another level of retarded
>>544033064Same except it was for Onyxia as Horde. It was Gargoth and Vile-something.
Telol helped me attune for MC and BWL
>>544032281Sylma helped so many anons through the Marshal Windsor escort that it became a fucking meme.
>>544036304Same.
>>544036934Let me guess, you were playing a female elf or human?
>>544037818I’m a Body Type 1 kind of guy
>>544036304You don’t know what you got til it’s gone.
Watching this shitshow while im in my normie guild on nordanaar is too funny.Oh and I get new guys through their ony/BWL attune almost every week, despite being in naxx/k40 gear myself.
>>544039420nah, i'd raidlog
>>544033302Sorry but <gulag> only accepts spanish conquistdores and latinas.
I expect a few people to quit by the time BWL drops and many people afterwards because>RAIDS TOO LONG NOW
I ran a guildie through BRD and they didn’t even thank me. Later when I asked them for help they never responded. This was the last time I ever offered to help someone in Evil.
>>544040104Yea no shit sherlock.80% of players will quit before AQ, most people are already raid-logging because there is only MC/Ony and it will stay that way for 2 more months.PvP already is a meme but you can't even rank all the way, there is no reason to do anything, the people asking for the slower releases did themselves no favor.
>>544032893Flag? Aecheur?
>>544028020When are you making a new guild?
>>544041364I started <Sisters of the Sunwell> already.
>>544040924>the people asking for the slower releases did themselves no favorSLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
resto druid
>>544040924Hopefully it dies sooner and then we'll merge with Nord and turtle can go back to being normal and all the fresh shitskins go play the latest FOTM slop.
>>544039420>h and I get new guys through their ony/BWL attune almost every week, despite being in naxx/k40 gear myself.There's no point not to. It's an easy way to help out new players and meet new people. It isn't some monumental task. If you're geared you can solo or at least duo attunes. It helps out your guild in the long run. I don't understand why helping out guildies is somehow controversial in this thread but it just reaffirms my decision to not join <Evil> for the umpteenth time. As though the GM of that guild getting into a flamewar with a troll which inevitably got him doxxed because he's too dumb to use more than one name online wasn't enough. Or taking two days to clear MC only to give their loot to pugs. It's just baffling.
>>544042758>As though the GM of that guild getting into a flamewar with a trollfunniest part is he would have let him fuck with everyone, but when it came to him he immediately had a meltdown
>>544043305i don't think he even talked to him before he got kicked and he had a meltie
>>544041996>High Elf females onlyThe person I knew only played undead...
>>544043305I think it all goes back to what others have complained about this guild. They don't care about each other, only themselves. Won't help with attunes. Won't help with gearing. Tell people to "fuck off" when they ask for a simple crafting. Laugh when others get trolled but then cry when it's them who is getting trolled.I don't understand the appeal quite frankly. Being in a guild is supposed to be fun with the boys. If you're all "strangers" then you may as well just pug. Even random pugs I never met have helped me out before. It's just sad.
None of the things posted above is true or real
>>544043840it was the "there are 2 roles called 'anon' and 1 has officer chat access" that got him kicked
>>544043840Aecheur flat out said Silkfang was funny when asked to kick, and was in guildchat many times when Silkfang was there, and the two talked.So no. It was only when Silkfang crossed Aecheur in the most minor way that Aecheur cried, threw a fit, shit his pants, and kicked the guy. He would have let Silkfang harass everyone else if it had never been him who was on the receiving end.
<gulag> is the most mentally stable guild btw. You won't see drama here.
Not true. It's full of drama, but they keep it in the guild chat.
Silkfang is the one that outted Supplies as the Dwarf poster in /heals/. Supplies posting fairly innocent screenshots of their character in /heals/ where he flirted with tanks while keeping his name out of the thread, and Silkfang outted him right after the shit with Helios (which Supplies was a part of).When Aecheur found out, he tried to capitalize on this and pretend as though Rackbride and <Branded> were to blame when they had no part in it (as confirmed by Supplies, who flat out said he'd never spoken to or even run into anyone from that guild). Aecheur even made a /wpsg/ thread where Supplies was the OP.In the end Supplies stopped posting in /heals/ and did his best to keep his head down to avoid more harassment. I don't blame him. When your own GM is getting involved with trolling you, it's not worth it.But Supplies deserved better. He's a cool anon. Fuck you Silkfang, and fuck you Aecheur. Faggots.
>>544043305not in evil
>>544044709Screencap and post or no balls
>>544045110<Not in Evil>
>>544044245Leaking private guild info/chats is a ban-worthy offense, yes.
YOU SHALL NOT PASS
>>544045315senor supremo..
>the absolute worst people are all trapped in the absolute worst guild where they all hate each other and can barely stomach one another's company for more than a couple hours each week while stabbing each other in the back in between wipes on the easiest raid ever devised by mankind
>>544045292It’s not private. Guild roles are visible to people outside the guild.
Invite me to the Sylma/Pearl server
>>544048505You just know.
why does every single fucking guild want you to join a discordI mean it's literally ALL of them at this point
>>544049261YOU VILL SHARE YOUR DATA, CHUDDIE
>>544049426>porn avatar>digbenis1111 name>DATA
>>544049738yes
whoa thread was really fast while I was asleepSummarize the past 10 hours of posts for me
>>544049929shitting on <Evil>'s guild culture
>>544049929Pearl
>>544049738>have to deal with zoomers and actual trannies having moronic conversations about the dumbest shit imaginable, including which netflix show is the least shit and political squabbles>drama because every discord mod in history is a gigantic faggot desperate to lord power over others>completely humorless cultural invaders who get upset if you say anything spicier than water and would've been bullied relentlessly in pre social media internet>you have to walk on eggshells constantly around them>if you don't, they ban you from the discord, ban you from the guild, start stalking you around the internet any way they can just to antagonize you further and will take screenshots of anything not kosher you said so they can plaster it all over reddit and send it to the GMs begging to ban youNo fucking way fag.
>>544049929turtle fags being bad the game preceded by homosexual posting taking "fag" suffix bit too literally
>>544050220>I'm an antisocial autist who NEEDS to say slurs constantly and I'm superior to others because I don't watch LE WOKE tvpathetique
>>544050220You could've just said you can't say nigger
>>544051792>>544050629so tiresome
>>544050629trvmp won
racism is one of the most evil things you can ever do, I'm glad filth like you were chased off the internet. Run and hide you bigoted demon
>>544052509chased off the internet straight into the election booth
Fuuuck I wanted to roll a tank on turtle and now it's so fucking over? God damn it man. I ain't paying SHIT to bl*zzard.
What professions should I do on my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf mage? Can I do Enchanting and JC while lvling?
>>544052902What happened now?
>>544049929<Evil> is evil.
>>544049261because they want you to be on voice for the raidand no they're not gonna use fucking teamspeak lol
save me blizzardrelease classic+and all the breastmilk shall be yours
I miss when only weirdos required voice. You could do complex dungeon/raid mechanics in MMOs without ever speaking outside of leads giving basic calls. Was common to do runs where a quarter of the players didn't even speak English.
>>544031763Team dog with Sylma as captain, not even a contest.
>>544053913>because they want you to be on voice for the raidvoice chat is required for VANILLA RAIDSthe absolute state of this retarded general
Can you do regular raids cross faction in Tauri or is it only upto raid finder
>>544055427nobody has tested this yet
>>544055404one retard who doesn't know what to do on c'thun wipes the whole raidYou think you're good enough to not need callouts, and that's fine, maybe you are. But the rest of us have already met people who refused to get in voice and claimed they didn't need it and ended up costing us precious hours of our lives, and you are indistinguishable from them.
>>544056653>wiping on a 20 year old boss with 3 mechanicsdo nillers really
>>544056653this is why retail is better can do up to heroic without VC and is built around wasting less of your time for a wipe. private servers that encourage mechanics that want discord will always be SHIT FUCKING SHIT
>>544056653I will NOT install pisscord. Simple as.
>>544052902that's why I stopped playing wow at all
>>544053187All tank players are forced into sissy cages there
>>544052902What happen?
>>544049261You can't even use SR website without a discord account.
>>544065529>>544064148
>>544056653>one retard who doesn't know what to do on c'thun wipes the whole raidDBM solved this
we should have a wpsg discord
>>544064148M-me not that kind of orc!
>>544068750>let the barely active thread die for good>constant goon spam>even more homo drama>grown men ERPingbrilliant move Copernicus
What classes do evil need, this thread is so dead I guess I have to play the game for entertainment.
>>544064148True, whipped to keep moving by their healdoms.
Post logs.Now.
Is it me or are cat dudus just fucking shite in this Tauri content bracket
NO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NONO LOGSLOGS NO
>>544070262sure
>>544070032Wish I were there...
Is there a self rezz mechanic for druids in legion i dont know about? The tank revive himself three times on Baron Rivendare and two times on other bosses. gm account or cheater?
No, just no
I miss Raura...... He was good plap
>>544070262>>544070637https://www.turtlogs.com/viewer/54468/base?history_state=1https://www.turtlogs.com/viewer/54473/base?history_state=1Unknown #1 (healer): NoiradinUnknown #2 (dps pala): TheodorianUnknown #3 (mage): AliceMoney spent on consumes:Clevvy (126g), Elafi (109g), Sepulchre (106g), Hamon (88g), Nanky (78g), Noiradin (66g), Bassy (65g), Theodorian (52g), >----------------------- POVERTY LINE ------------------Hokum (48g), Eyba (47g), Bini (44g), Therin (43g), Slumber (41g), Tilia (36g), Potatopizza (33g), >----------------------- DESTITUTE LINE ------------------Facesitting (26g), Flag (25g), Alicel (24g), Gramble (23g), Gortrel (22g), Lasstria (21g), Seraphiana (16g), Seralys (11g), Mcian (5g), Heliosn (4g), Sunder Armor Summary (trash and boss counts) Bini 292 Heliosn 252 Hokum 202 Bassy 18 Flag 5
>>544072116Stop using the incorrect gold values retard
>>544070262"No!"
>>544072301it's about proportionality anyway, the final values are irrelevant
>>544072116If you spent less than 100g then lower your tone when speaking to me.
>>544072457It's proportionally not the same retard
>Binu top dps warrior despite spamming hundreds of sundersFlagsissies... our response? I thought using sunder is a wasted gcd and impacts dps...
>>544072679>>544072301ok here's amber values>KINGS, MADE TO RULEElafi (59g)Clevvy (51g)>MERCHANTS, PRIESTS AND LORDSSepulchre (34g)Nanky (34g)Noiradin (34g)Therin (33g)>SKILLED LABORERS, SOLDIERSHamon (29g)Hokum (22g)Theodorian (22g)Potatopizza (22g)Bini (22g)Eyba (21g)Bassy (21g)>PEASANT SERFSSlumber (18g)Tilia (16g)Alicel (14g)Facesitting (14g)Gortrel (13g)Lasstria (10g)Seraphiana (10g)>UNTOUCHABLESFlag (8g)Gramble (7g)Mcian (6g)Seralys (5g)Heliosn (3g)
>Heliosn>0 Sunders>0 Damage
>>544073314Why Asa so POOR?
>>544072116>the guy with SULFURAS can't even break top 5 dpsYour guild deserves to fail
>>544073510he just hit 60 and is in quest greensalso he did 250 sunders, bassy and flag did a combined total of 23
>>544073738>0 Sunders
>>544073565He only got the eye.
This is how the dev team envisioned you looking first thing in Draenor
>>544074171So you gave the eye to your worst dpsYour guild deserves to fail
>>544075221But we didn't?
>>544075854worgen male property
>>544070805in RDF, you can rez while fighting bosses
>>544075854human male property
>>544072746Flag's DPS was only lower because he had to OT and died often due to not enough healing.
>>544073565Maggot
>>544076879I thought that was just a glitch in Scarlet Halls.
>>544073564
>>544080642This does not explain anything.
>>544075940>picwhy does this look like doge lol
>>544075854beautiful independent, strong woman that's not anyone's property
>turns out Flag is fucking trashhahahahhahahahhahahturn your sps on sissy you're the taker today
Stop bullying Flag, he’s done nothing wrong.
how did they expect you to navigate this zone without a flying mount?
Pearl!
>>544084684You get a boat when you start questing
>>544084684They gave you a whole steamboat, you ungrateful moron.
>>544081689Healer consumes are cheap and with runs getting faster there's little reason to even pop the more expensive ones
>>544085701Gem!
>>544031340kek that's what you get for joining a 4chan guild
Left or right /wpsg/?
>>544090151What's the difference
>>544073738Why is Helios still in greens? When Silkfang hit 60 on Snowveil, he was in full prebis within days, and Snowveil didn’t have the support of an entire guild behind him.
>>544088445Maybe if you actually consumed >>544077282 wouldn’t be an issue.
>>544072116I notice quite a few interesting names missing from that lineup. Anons who have gotten a lot of gear in the last few raids. Sounds like a case of “fuck you got mine.”
why are paladins like this?
>>544090151right is mare mode, left is amerishartian
What happened to Epoch, did it really get shut down?
>>544094403stillborn server
>>544094403dutch aborted the baby
>>544094403ascension abandoned it
Why Blizzard is not going after Ascension? It's more of a competitor than Turtle.
DUUUUTCH
>>544094403The long version: When Epoch first launched, it had over nine thousand players ready for some FRESH. No exaggeration.Realizing this might be bigger than expected, they announced a second realm that would release with the first. A PVP realm. That would be enough, right?Well, because they didn't know how to run servers, neither server could handle much more than a couple thousand players at once. Even with two realms, this meant less than half the players could actually play.And for the ones that could play, the server had hundreds of known bugs still in the bug report. Many were listed as being so bad they shouldn't launch. Eventually, a dev unassociated with the project sees the Titanic has hit an iceberg and decides to help. He joins the team, helps increase the maximum player size for each server, starts working on bugs, and does his best. But he's really just got a bucket bailing out and already sunk ship. The server is constantly down. "POCHIE FRIDAY ERR SATURDAY ERR SUNDAY ERR MONDAY ERR TUESDAY" becomes a meme as players joke about when the server will come up. The server does pop up, but only as brief "tests." During this time, the server owner is seen playing Overwatch 2 for hours on end.Finally, the plug is pulled. But all is not lost. Project Ascension steps in and agrees to host the servers. The original dev team will still be in control, there still won't be any pay to win just cosmetics in a shop that Ascension will take a cut from to pay server bills. Most people accept this, even though Ascension has a notoriously bad name and is launching its own competition server Bronzebeard Classic+.1/2
What is the next Vanilla Classic Fresh Hype? epoch is dead who is next?
>>544091042No, that's a skill issue not a consume issue
>>544094403>>544096973Then Blizzard steps in. They hit Turtle Wow with a lawsuit, and then the next day hit Epoch's server owner with a cease and desist. Epoch's server owner is in a country where Blizzard can take serious legal action against him, so he immediately steps away from the project. Keep in mind during all this turmoil, a lot of the original dev team stepped away as well.With the owner and dev team away, and with Ascension focused on their own Bronzebeard Classic+, Epoch is abandoned. It still launches. It works to this day. But every projected date for the release of new content and new raids is missed. It effectively is a situation that the server named Vanilla+ underwent, where it promised so much new content yet after the launch never delivered on any of its promised updates. Meanwhile, Turtle Wow puts out new updates with new content. New zones, new dungeons, and so on. Bronzebeard Classic+ also launches and is a huge success. Player's interest in Epoch dies slowly as numbers decline. A server with over nine thousand players is now down to a couple hundred. The /epog/ thread slows to a stutter, kept alive by an AI softcore porn spammer, before finally disappearing from this board, replaced effectively by /bbc+/.And that's the story of Project Ascension, a server that was in development for three years but died in three weeks.
>>544095532The answer to that is quite simple: Blizzard has gone after Project Ascension. As with Turtle, they've sent multiple cease and desist letters, as well as using the DMCA system to take down social media pages to decrease their ability to reach others through advertising.But if you mean in terms of a lawsuit, the reasoning for opening a lawsuit against Turtle Wow and Project Ascension are privy to Blizzard's legal team, but it's easy to speculate:1) The real world identities of some of Turtle Wow's team was much easier to identify, and they were able to find out that Akalix, a high-ranking member of Turtle team who has been a part of the project since day one, was an American based off publicly available linkedin information he provided. This gives them at least one human being they can take to court. In Ascension's case, they have no clue if any of them have a proper venue where they can take them to court. They might all be Russians.2) Turtle Wow made a lot of recent waves with their UE5 announcement. It was covered in gaming news media, which normally ignores private servers. Personally I think it looks like shit, but in the eyes of others this makes retail WoW look outdated and bad. Turtle Wow is essentially not only offering a market replacement for WoW (which is really bad in a copyright infringement case, as it means damages) but also one that's arguably "better." Ascension meanwhile is just different (although not different enough to be transformative to the point that fair use would protect it).3) They don't need to sue every private server. Doing so would cost them a lot of money, and while they could afford it, ultimately it's best for the bottom line to just focus on one big one that's easy to crush. This sends a message throughout the private server community that it's a bad idea to run a server. While this by no means will stop all future projects, it will deter some, and that mitigates future damages and loss of profit for Blizzard.
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>>544098847wrong thread retard
>>544096973>>544097095>>544098435not your blog
>>544096973>>544097095>>544098435>believing that cucktotes got a real C&DBiggest retard ITT.
>>544100416It's the "official" story and Blizzard sends out C&Ds all the damn time, but personally I believe that he just took the opportunity to bail. Turtle's legal woes were big news and his server blew up in his face. He'd already resigned to playing Overwatch 2 as it flopped. So yeah.
>>544098847never be a woman/10
>>544099112>>544100416>>544100850Gaytotes walking out on the project makes total sense, ignoring the CD and getting sued into oblivion is a retard move.
>>544098847A++ 10/10 would knot again
>>544103439He's an American, yeah? I mean if he got a C&D he'd be a retard to ignore it when he's very blatantly infringing their copyright. They basically have him dead to rights and serving a C&D is the "kindest" thing they could do when realistically they could have just served up a lawsuit. Kindest in quotes because it's not done out of any compassion but to save them money as well, but basically you never want to go to court if you can avoid it.
epoch is such a failed abortion of a server that it feels disrespectful to even talk about it. it doesnt deserve to be remembered, even poorly
>>544105460I think people called him a euro, either german or UK. turtle wow lawsuit becoming real turned him into rethinking if he wanted to dev pserver in a world where legal ramifications exists, people like to meme on him for being a pussy because he said he'd wipe his ass with C&D.but we're seeing akelix get raped in court in real time, only shenna and ruskies with no extradiction treaties are safe if blizzjew decides they want to ruin your life because you illegaly host vanilla wow.
>>544105460He's European and the C&D was totally fake. No way all the epoch team got letters while Ascension, the ones actually hosting it, didn't.
>>544109296ascension got c&d a decade ago and restructured
>>544109296Ascension gets C&D'd all the time and likely got some when Epoch did. They just don't care. They're either in a country where Blizzard can't do shit to them, or they just don't give a fuck.
>>544090151sex with both
wowwarrior is actually kind of dog shityou cant even kill half of an elite on your own
>>544110929Warrior sissies need a heal BVLL to support them.
>>544024595boar mounts?guys hear me outBOAR MOUNTS?
>>544111563yes
>>544110929>>544111231>warrior >is bad at fightingKWAB
>>544112707Warrior really should get a manual parry imho
>>544112971whoa a heckin' guaranteed dodge every few seconds.they still have to juggle dogshit rage genning
>>544113185They have to time the parry correctly and it generates rageIf they fail they leave themselves open to a guaranteed crit and lose rage
Warriors are just a shitty class. Make a soldier class or something if all paladins isn't acceptable(it should be)
>>544113738Paladin should sort of be the default for melee plate on alliance, with Warrior being horde exclusive. give Paladins some kind of charge and functionally they aren't all that different
>no gms online because it's late at night>world chat immediately becomes a hilarious haven of racial slurs and discussing which race has the best assOnce more I am reminded that jannies, in any setting, are always a detriment.
let's design the IDEAL /wpsg/ classic+I will start with races, more precisely revamping the current faction system.Alliance:>Human>Dwarf>GnomeHorde:>Orc>Troll>TaurenNeutral:>Night Elf>Goblin>Undead/ForsakenIdeal class/race combinations? Any new classes?
>>544114631>Ideal class/race combinations?humans shouldn't be warriors but paladins!
>>544114631>gnome>not high elfIdiot. Buffoon.
>>544114886Probably fits better, yea.
>>544114631Undead PaladinDwarf ShamanPersonally I'd largely get rid of the faction system WoW had, it makes little sense lore wise (WC3 literally ends with both sides uniting to fight a common threat) and the world pvp in WoW was always shit, let people quest and do dungeons/raids together and visit other cities. It's obviously never going to happen but revamping wpvp in the style of the failed Warhammer mmo would be great, have dedicated pvp lakes in zones separate from questing areas with multiple objectives and a much stronger focus on tactical group fighting and mass battles over solo shit, with capturing zones furthering the pvp campaign of your faction until you eventually get a massive victory that benefits your entire faction heavily so it can reset next month or something similar.
>>544115056You're dumb and probably brown
>>544115290Now that's just rude.
>>544114631>Neutral:>>Night Elf>>Goblin>>Undead/Forsakenhow it should have been from the start
>>544115056I think a little faction war won't hurt anyone. It adds to the PVP minigame.
ugh, goblinbros...?!?
>>544120405need me some of that goblussy
>>544115056what an abhorrent fucking opinionkill yourself and never touch wow again, literal zoomer faggot
>>544114631I really don’t want to post my autistic five faction (plus neutrals) 24 race (plus subraces) hero class ideas man vaguely vanilla+ server.
they did my boy Hemet dirty...
>>544115056I agree
>>544115056>Personally I'd largely get rid of the faction system WoW had, it makes little sense lore wise (WC3 literally ends with both sides uniting to fight a common threat) and the world pvp in WoW was always shit, let people quest and do dungeons/raids together and visit other cities.Nah. I don't mind crossfaction but this "get along gang" shit sucks and is a huge gaping festering wound on modern fantasy. Multiple factions are the way to go but they should be at each other's throats. Maybe you can defect and work for the Alliance as an Orc mercenary but you'd never be fully trusted and surely shouldn't be able to saunter around their cities.
>>544122684World of Warcraft does not need to be current year D&D.
>>544123096its worse
>epoch dead>twow about to become a skeleton crew since blizzard just got the right to request subpoenas on every major website and software used by twow team. >Asc is bigger retoilet slop than SoD. Saw the full list of mythic enchantments and it literally includes all modern retoilet abilities and talents.>That's literally the entire list of classic+>0 populated TBC servers, 1 or 2 TBC+ servers with 50 players>0 good Wotlk+ servers. Wotlk as an xpac is boring and only good for PvP. Also played to death>private wow junkies are so desperate they clear WoD content on a buggy Legion server
>>544122684nigga theres like 100 different factions u fight on both the alliance and horde side, itd just be pve instead of pvp
How is warrior on Tauri? I assume they balance the patch on 7.3.5 so fury is insane and arms is ass and we skip the entire patch 7.0 nonsense where you had to run focused rage and be blessed by rng gods to get legendary gloves in order to do your rotation as arms?
Is gulag still recruiting? Why alliance though? Legion is a premium horde expansion. It's all cross faction right?
>>544129760>Is gulag still recruiting? Yes>Why alliance though?no idea, few alliance purists there>Legion is a premium horde expansionwhy? alliance pve racials are no longer terrible on a cosmical scale>It's all cross faction right?Dungeon, Arena, BG, LFR Yesother activity is debatable(Raids etc...), nobody tested and nobody cares toGuilds are not cross faction and most likely will never be
>>544129352>How is warrior on Tauri?right now Fury is poo-poo, no artifact stuff not enough hasteArms does lot more damage
>>544129760>Why Alliance only?Guilds aren’t crossfaction there. Alliance was chosen for Worgen. There was talk about making a Horde guild there since some aspects of the game are crossfaction. However it’s unclear if raids will be, and we don’t want to split the pop, so we are all rolling Alliance. If they decide to do crossfaction raiding, a Horde guild may be made based on demand. If it’s up to me, we’ll name it <galug>.
Alliance was chosen for sexy draenei, humans, and nelves. Worgensex too.
>>544130976>Alliance was chosen for knotbait, knotbait, and knotbait.
Worgen knots belong exclusively to blood elves.
>>544129108no one cares, faggot
>>544129352prot is busted in bgs, always a good tank tooarms is goodfury mehthey were very fun to play in legion tho
>>544129760yes, we mostly need mages and shaman rn, but you can play whatever you like>Why alliancecos we dont like playing horde?
>>544129108The whole “vanilla+” shit is retarded trend that needs to die so we can get some good fucking servers and not more fanfic slop.
I actually love how leftists get chat banned on ascension wow. I can casually shit on commies and if someone tries to defend em they get chat banned.
>>544132772I used the name “Trumpwon” on one of the Ascension servers and so many people would be sent into spergouts and got banned when I never said a single thing remotely political or controversial. Just going “LFG DM will tank” was enough to get like half a channel banned.
>>544129760Because no one wants to paly as a no-shoes filthalso, spics are even MORE concentrated on horde side, somehow
Sheena, you better be scared
>>544133704>the subhumans play subhumans>somehow
>>544134292DM this to her
>>544133704>spics are even MORE concentrated on horde side, somehowlies and omission every fucking time I am trying to do tanaan jungle rares all I see are the alliance mexicans, none of them speak "INGLES" either>CRUZADA ESCARLATA>LOS CARIMA MAXIMA>LEGION ESPat least you play with your own kind Sanchez
>>544129108Blizzard won. Go play classic WoD bro.
Why is there a war between the Knot faction, the No-shoe faction and the Yuri faction on /wpsg/? Where is the wholesome vanilla romance faction at?
>>544134890and literally every single horde guild in in spic language, whats your point lmao
>>544134292thats not her, retardbro
>>544136016How many knots did you take? Only Koto’s or were there others?
>>544136285okay akalix
>>544136418It's funny because Akalix does read this thread and does have a weird unrequited love for Shenna.
Where are all the epoch niggers now? lmao!
>>544136206what the fuck are you even on about?at this point I am convinced you don't even play on the serverHorde guilds already clear Mythic High Maul, none of those have spanish as their main squeeze
>>544135695>classic WoD brodoesnt sound bad, if its on for like 1 year tops, wod had good content, only issue is that was almost none of it..
>>544135695Might as well set up a solo server with bots, at least these aren't making money to some pajeets or chinks.
>>544138006are the pajeets in the room with us?
>>544130240>why? alliance pve racials are no longer terrible on a cosmical scaleLegion & BFA were literally the pinnacle of Blizzard's horde bias on retail>Goblin rocket jump mandatory to do Mythic KJ in Legion>BE's arcane torrent skips half of m+ mechanics including BFA's Zul adds in mythic.>Trolls sim highest on every race
Why tf would you play on a private server with x1 rates? Imagine putting so much effort into boring leveling just to lose it all when Blizzard comes knocking? Play x100, lvl in a day, then raid (the only fun part of vanilla) all you want.
It's happening. Didn't think I'd be excited to play Legion again. I'm considering playing with /vg/ but those alliance numbers worry me. Will they wipe the content when launching Legion or do I get to keep my character and progress?
>>544136016>Where is the wholesome vanilla romance faction at?tried that, always results in heartbreak
>>544136751BBC+
>>544138810server has been around since 2008-2009 (the tauri that is)I don't recall them wiping anything ever, you will keep your shit
Tauri.You join <gulag>.Now.We are the most mentally stable people in /wpsg/.
>>544138334Only you, the rest are botting in wow classic.
>>544136751I still log in for time to time, but I'm playing more on Tauri currently until there's an update.
>>544138837I know was just messing around a little. But I'd say all the other stuff mentioned kind of tends to go that way too.
>>544136016>Where is the wholesome vanilla romance faction at?There's no interest in it sadly. I tried but everyone just wants dog penises or horsecock, and don't want normal romance roleplay.
>>544139746>>544140909now kiss!
for me its femhuman + worgen male romance
>>544141417Only if their abs really are shredded.
>>544142524
>>544142993I'm not a bottom though.
>>544140909Yes too bad.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71235075/28/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-turtle-wow/Only just now saw this from the other day. Turtle is quite fucked not, yeah? There's no way they used throwaway emails and always used VPNs to connect to these services, and one of them is definitely going to snitch and lead to others being identified.Shenna is only safe if she is truly in Russia right now, but the rest of the team and TWoW itself seem rather fucked. We'll see in 30 days or so if things finally started falling apart.
>>544129760>Why alliance though?Because who wants to walk among greenskins?
>>544138810>those alliance numbers worry me.a lot of things are just crossfaction like the AH, RDF, BGs
>>544143704Dude they are using discord to communicate. They have no opsec. Everyone is going to get identified.
>>544142523This, but the other way around
What is Shenna going to name the next server?
>>544143704we will see how the rest of the devs are, but so far everyone except the romanian are fucked
>>544143704Well, according to Blizzard, apparently the one in Kazakhstan is a shell company.
>>544143704>NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT to a U.S. Magistrate Judge and Declination of Consent. This case has been randomly assigned to Magistrate Judge Rozella A. Oliver.>NOTICE OF REASSIGNMENT of MJDAP case from Magistrate Judge Rozella A. Oliver to Judge Stephen V. Wilson for all further proceedingsDo keep in mind Blizzard shuffled and rigged this shit to be in their favor.But Mr. Akalix's arguments weren't really going to hold up. Blizzard got the most jewish lawyers in California. Marc E. Mayer is a big guy.
>>544145953 (me)Within just 2 filings, Mr. Akalix fucked himself over.
>>544143408
>>544143704It's a fairly thorough subpoena as well.>Blizzard may serve third party subpoenas on the following entities for the sole purpose of identifying the identities and contact information of no more than 10 Doe Defendants WRSHUPLW service of process: (1) Google LLC, dba YouTube, LLC; (2) X Corp.; (3) Reddit, Inc; (4) Paypal, Inc.; (5) Payment Wall; (6) Namecheap, Inc.; (7) Meta Platforms, Inc., dba Instagram; (8) Github, Inc.; (9) Discord, Inc.; (10) Cloudfare, Inc.; (11) Linkedin, Inc.; (12) Unreal Engine (Epic Games, Inc.); (13) SoundCloud, Inc.; (14) Spotify USA, Inc.; (15) Apple, Inc. dba Apple Music.Spotify and Apple Music are in there because they were uploading and selling (I think) soundtracks.
>>544146168is he defending himself or something? he keeps unnecessarily putting his foot in his mouth with extra details. i guess he can't help it since he naturally has the personality of a conman
>>544146217King of Queens be a bussin' sitcom, woof. x3 But I don't really understand lmao. ^w^ Dougs dank relationship with his wife was hella sweet, senpai. <3 But that one episode where they lost their kid was le heckin' heartbreaking no cap frfr. ;w; Finna watch some episodes again in the future. :3
>>544146761You should. It's a good show.
>>544146757This is Blizzard's lawyer tearing him apart.Basically Akalix filed a motion to deny early discovery, citing potential prejudice. While at the same time saying he was never compensated for his work and he wasn't an operator.
>>544147110>"your honor, I did it for no economic compensation"That won't fly. What kind of retard would work for FREE?
>>544147364
>>544147364Isn't the only allowed way by those servers Turtle provided as example ones working for freeeeeee.
>>544147364Josiah Zimmer will do all the accounting and cost cutting for free!
>>544146761didn't readpost more dog/catgirls
>>544147432Obviously they were paying their devs and staff to work on the server.
>>544147587bau bau
>>544145953desu even if they didnt have the best lawyers in the state getting away with very obvious and blatant copyright infringement on this scale should get you fucked in the ass no questions asked
Anyways this was the romance I was looking for.I would play the Human (male).
>>544147432>missing the jokeAnon please.Either way, there's no "allowed way". Hosting a pserver its, at best, unregulated.
>core marketing and PR manager of twow>had enough information about finances to make business decisions based on themhe 100% was just an unpaid dude giving them free exposure and didn't work closely with them at all
>>544147664i can't sex that...
>>544147760not with that attitude
>>544147829i'm not a furry!!
>>544147760no problem, I have included a small child in this image
>>544147697She's 95% tsun, I don't think that's enough for romance.
>>544148045I can accept that.
>>544147697Where's the joke?
>>544148617I’m serious.
>>544146761This post made Anon so asshurt that he went ahead and reported it lmao.
>>544148617>>544148264the jokes are supposed to be in the 3rd panels
>>544149493I thought it was ok.
Well anyhow nobody can play an elf that isn't being "raped" by a monster or an animal, or doesn't have a penis (female), or into some other deranged fetish that I likely wouldn't understand and don't care to begin to try, so that's how that ends.
>>544149539I appreciate third panel jokes.
>>544122684I'm not saying they should be modern carebear faggotry, I just mean separate pvp faction fighting from pve so that in pve you get a much larger pool of players to engage with.>>544120514I'm 37.
>>544133704I've been playing horde since WC2 came out and I went "wow orcs are fucking cool" and I'm not stopping now.
>>544150438It’s time to wear some shoes.
>>544144508The only reason half of these retards got doxxed is because they flat out tie their real life identity to their online one.The dj on the other day said he's 23 and it made me realize the retarded faggots I'm seeing spamming bluetext for attention in world were literally in diapers when WoW was new.
>>544150438Everyone played both campaigns in WC2, the fuck are you talking about.
>>544150616Most of this thread is half my age. It's why I play in dadgamer guilds exclusively where we were all old enough to drink when WoW released.
>>544150698Yea I did too, Alliance had really cool music. I'm just defending playing Horde because I really like them.
>>544150794Dadgamer guilds suck too though, it's just failed normalfags whining about their wives and sportsball games.
>>544150616To be fair, as always, the attention seekers are the most retarded of any group. Akalix, DJ and co are sub 80 IQ.
>>544150942That’s not what we discuss at all.We discuss game and things related to the game.Most anyone ever says about their wife is “I need to go because wife.” Even the “wife aggro” meme is retired.
>>544151324>“I need to go because wife.”That's more than enough to condemn them, only fat smelly unwashed neckbeard virgins should be anywhere even remotely near the internet and videogames
>>544151618Ok.
>>544150438I feel like the horde aesthetic is on the constant declinevarious troops wear random crap that doesn't represent horde at allships, cannons, siege equipment is mostly copypasted alliance stuffbuilding architecture is far tameralliance on the other hand seems to get better looking and fitting stuff all the time
Why i'm still so poor?
>>544151324Guys who get ordered around like that should just beat their wives. Unless its a emergency, there is no reason for her to interrupt your personal free time.
>>544151809>716g from questing>almost 5.5k from mail tradingwhat the fuck
>>544152007Sure.
>>544152007I don't understand men who get married to a hag they have nothing in common with and who doesn't respect them so they can spend 50% of their waking life complaining about her
>>544150794same
>>544152269I understand it. you get old and eventually you say. I don't want to die alone.
>>544152828I'd rather be alone than with someone I don't like.
>>544152828This. I'm 35 and wish I had settled with a woman.
So what's the situation on turtle wow and epochi've been playing w*rmane but now I kinda feel like playing some classicis turtle going to get shit on by blizzdid epoch finally manage to launch? are people even playing that?
>>544150115elfpeeall im sayin
>>544153160Epoch is dead. Turtle is soon to be dead.
>>544153160>did epoch finally manage to launch?by ascension>are people even playing that?under 1000 players because ascension abandoned it to promote their p2w servers instead
>>544153160u missed epoch>spent 2 weeks banning /vg/ users and realizing trinity core has a hard player cap of about 2000 players before it crashes>extremely buggy because of trinity core>eventually give up and sell the server to ascension>ascension generously lets gaytotes and his band of merry men stay on board>blizzard sues turtle and sends a c&d to epoch>epoch caves immediately, all devs quit>ascension hires their own crew to develop epochthis all happened in the course of about 2-4 weeks
>>544153380>>ascension hires their own crew to develop epochthis never happened
>>544152269Same. Its so pathetic to hear a grown man say "I need to go because wife." Makes it immediately clear to me that its not a relationship based on trust or love but more of a "mother-son" relationship.>>544152828We all die alone, especially if you're a man you will die first and its unlikely that you will be surrounded by family when you die. That and having a bad relationship, constantly fighting every day and then dying next to a person that basically despises you doesn't sound like such a good way to go.
>>544153419they got some nigga named dutch developing it now right?or did they just ditch it entirely
>>544153529>dutchhe is the owner of ascension, he isn't developing anythingthe server is completely abandoned, why would they bother? it doesn't have pay for "convenience" items that people can sell on the AH
>>544153529>>544153419It's not really dutches fault or job. What's he meant to do, finish some random guys project based on his hastily scrawled notes?
>>544153981oh i guess it rly is dead then lol goddamn4 fuckin years of hype just for it to fade away in a fuckin monthwhat a piece of shit
>>544153981they said they were handed over everything like uldumbut again, it isnt making as much money as their main realms with whales
for me, it`s Thisalee Crow
>>544152828>"I don't want to die alone.">lives the rest of his life in misery and then ends up dying alone anyway after divorcenormalfaggots are so funny
>>544154637They RUINED her in Legion
>>544154637>>544155838https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnh7FvAbqYgCheck out THESE claws
>>544155838Shut up bumi, or you'll fly into the soup
>As indicated prior, our PvE realms will soon have Crossfaction Battlegrounds enabled. This means that players, depending on team imbalance in a given Battleground, may end up fighting for the opposite faction for that game to increase fairness and reduce queue times.>A small laucher-only update will go out somewhere next week that will be required for Crossfaction Battlegrounds to function properly. Then on the maintenance of November 4 we will enable them for all PvE realms.I don't know how to feel about that.
>>544157331If they're going to do this, does that mean we'll finally get horde paladin and alliance shaman. Because PvP is the only real area I think you could argue for them to be separate. Goblin paladin, high elf shaman when.
>>544157331wow that took them a long time
>>544157331Hopefully it'll speed up BG queues
>>544158352>>544157331why are bg's so fucking dead when this server has several times the population of an official server from when the game was new?
>>544157331Hordebros... the Alliance is going to get shamans in their teams and we will have to deal with retardins every game..
>>544158467dont worry about it
>>544158467>join bg>sweaty twinks make or break the game
here is the average turdle BG>click on NPC to join BG>forget about the queue>it pops 2 hours later while you are questing>lose or win in 3 minutes
>>544158467I hate PvP.
>>544158467>>544157331>LOL DUDE JUST PLAY PVPhow about i dont give a fuck huh? i am not here to "compete" with subhuman losersI am winner, winners dont play games with retards and losers that feel like they accomplish something in a 29 year old game
>>544158467i played pvp on epoch for good leveling gear and XP, does turtle do that?
>>544029858Want to cuddle Senko's lap with my obedient gobbiegnome in Everlook next I can
pvpoh yeah I do thatsap people until they snap and start blasting aoe and run in circles
>>544158467you know why
>>544157331I've been reading turtle wow forum about 1.18.1 announcement and half of the posts are about pvp changes and crying about pvp balance. Like who gives a shit? PvP is not serious.
>>544158467Because people are doing pve.
>>544162162BG's on turtle are entirely infested with twinks sweating so fucking hard you can see the stink lines emanating from them fine tuning their 600 different macros to be as efficient as possible so they can absolutely dominate everyone else. It's not worth doing pvp on turtle, you wait 2 hours for bg to pop and either win instantly or lose instantly depending upon which side has more twinks.
>>544158467Because shamans are overtuned
>>544162905pvp elemental shamans are highest IQ players along with druids
>>544164205I'm a druid and I just go full retard cat form blender style and it seems to work
>>544164502forgot to add>fc druids
>>544158467>join bg's at lv 10-19>lv 19 hunter is running around oneshotting everyone>join bg's at lv 20-29>lv 29 rogues roam in packs to nuke you into orbit>join bg's at lv 30-39>a 39 druid is essentially immortal and can freely flag cap>join bg's at lv 40-49>queue never pops>join bg's at lv 50-59>everyone is in AV, which become boring turtle fests where people wait for the winAllowing you to turn off your exp and join regular bg's as a hyper enchanted twink who can oneshot literally everyone except other twinks demotivates anyone from doing bg's. You literally join a bg, do /who z-"warsong" 10-19 and if the enemy team has two in a twink guild and you have zero you just /afk out
>>544165058epoch solved this by giving everyone XP even if they turned off XP gainthis killed the twink
>>544158467PVP isn’t the same as it was 20 years ago. BGs been thoroughly meta-gamed and tryharded to the point of no longer being fun.
>>544166051>BGs been thoroughly meta-gamed and tryharded to the point of no longer being fun.that's a fucking joke, the issue with bgs is that people don't have any idea wtf they are doing. This is mostly the fault of the poor design of the bgs themselves, but the fact is that 99% of bgs have idiots that have literally no idea how to play the bg correctly that can tank an entire game.If anything, people have gotten worse at bgs over time. I remember playing on some vanilla instant 60 pvp server YEARS ago that had the sweatiest mfs I have ever seen. Everyone played gnome in wsg because they are small enough to fit under certain terrain like the random carts and shit for a free escape, and everyone knew the cheesiest routes to carry flags. wsg on private servers now have dumbass brownoids running the flag straight down the tunnel 99.99% of the time even if the entire enemy team is waiting for them at the bottom. You constantly see 10+ people going for gold mine in AB. In eots almost every game has some retard running the flag to the wrong side, hand delivering it to the enemy team for a free cap.
>>544166843Why would you not go down the center tunnel? It's the fastest way.
>>544167817>Why would you not go down the center tunnel? It's the fastest way.>even if the entire enemy team is waiting for them at the bottom. we got a brown one here boys.
>>544167974going the other exits is pointless, you can easily intercept the side when standing at the center>take an extra 18 seconds to leave enemy base so they can just run you down slightly farther away
>>544168065not him but they won't know which exit you're going until you're already down there and if you're playing a class with a lot of movement they might not be able to catch up until you're on the other side of the map
>>544168065It's a lot easier for your team to go to the place where the other team isn't to support you with the flag. If you can't grasp this basic concept, you either have barely played bgs or you are a braindead brownoid. Running down the tunnel into the stacked enemy team is a guaranteed death, aka it will take way more than the 18 seconds or whatever number you want to pull out of your ass to pick the flag, run down the tunnel to die and then have to pick the flag again. If you don't go down the tunnel you can go either the gy or ramp side, and in literally every case other than a full blown premade enemy team that will lead to their stack at the base of the tunnel splitting as they check either side. at the very least. In many cases they don't do anything at all because they would rather sit at the end of the tunnel for the free kill they get almost every time from a braindead nigger running right into them, allowing you to get past mid for free.I have capped countless flags simply by hugging the far side of the map running behind their gy because they continue to camp mid forever after the flag was picked because everyone just assumes to will come tunnel because they are retarded like you.
>>544168659>not him but they won't know which exit you're going until you're already down theretargeting macros, you don't need line of sight to know where someone is
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>>544168763how does targeting someone tell you where they are? the only time that works is priests with mind vision, but that requires you to have a priest that even knows they have mind vision and know what it does, use it, then tell their team where you are. That almost never happens.
>>544167817Brown.
>>544168750If you don't have your team stacked with you when you grab the flag you are already dead because there will be at minimum 3 people waiting there unless you just wiped the entire enemy team, two of which will be stealthed rogues. Teams never split unless they are mentally retarded, they always stick together and swarm on your flag carrier the moment you exit. I've never seen anyone camp mid when their flag is out of base, if anything they will try to camp your flag spot so they can intercept before you can cap it.
>>544167817Two newfags--who only played classic, not vanilla--called you a color. How will you EVER handle this infantile response?
>>544169120>how does targeting someone tell you where they are?There are multiple addons designed to let you make an overlay on your target that ignores line of sight. If you can target someone, you can see where they are.
you wouldn't get it. the only relevant skill in wow is knowing the game and then stacking the odds by spending more time on chores. this is peak. this is why fresh is bad. this is why vanilla is pvp king.
>>544169450>because there will be at minimum 3 people waiting therebarely ever happens, camping flag room to defend is extremely rare because it's both boring as fuck and also a bad way to play the game, having -3 players or however many jerking off in the flag room means you will guaranteed get wiped in mid. The only time people ever camp flag room is when they are ahead on caps, don't think they can get another cap, so wait the game timer out to win.>, if anything they will try to camp your flag spot so they can intercept before you can cap it.Literally never happens.>>544169593>There are multiple addons designed to let you make an overlay on your target that ignores line of sightDoesn't exist. Straight up making things up now lmao.
>1 person online in gulagAnother /vg/ special.
>>544174876it's the lord's day
>>544174876>evil raidlogs>gulag raidlogsface it all vg guilds are for raid loggers.
>>544175085same day btw
nobody plays on sunday except NEETs
>>544174876It's a forced meme guild like Not in OP. They barely have 2 players yet they completely dominate the thread by spamming it nonstop with the same couple screenshots to show others how fun their server and guild are.
>>544176627Thank you for posting this, this is how I know the >just farm 1 hour weekly for consuambles broplayers are fucking retarded and shit concern trollers if the best fight club can do is sub 1 hour and evil with using consumables can get a 90minute clear farming 1 hour for consumables is FUCKING RETARDEDonce again people on /vg/ prove they have no IQ.
Futa nelves...
pearl isn't in <gulag> and still isn't the reason no one will play on ascension with you
<gulag> members are adults with responsibilities and families.<evil> members are dilating neet troons.I get that you can't understand it with that pea-sized brain of yours.
Any good private servers?
>>544176627<Evil> is 16th fastest out of 50 guilds. Not bad.
>>54417841455*
>>544176627oh shit is it too late to join this top 10 guild?
>>544178692Leave a detailed resume and our officers in Discord will review it.
>>544129352I thought Arms was on the viable end even on the very end, at least just above bottom 5
>>544178414I thought there wasn't much guild raiding on Ambershire, but I looked at Nordanaar and it's not that much better. Over the past two weeks (week 50 and 51), there were 91 guilds running MC, 82 running BWL, 69 running AQ40, 55 running ES, 14 running naxx (I assume naxx number is somehow bugged) and 32 running kara40.
>>544157331meanwhile Ascension simply rapes this with high risk >>544171041
Raiding is boring. It's just the same thing as a dungeon, which is already extremely boring, but longer and bigger hue
>>544178414>20k+ active players>only 50 guilds running MC
>Like some Ally races>Hate Stormwind and its gay layout and hate having half the popMaybe EVERYTHING should be crossfaction now....
>>544179778still not playing to get humiliated by the 5 whales that dominate the economy
>>544179932indeed i gotta stop playing wow
>>544180110Get fucked evil, no one wants your shit ther either
>>544179952>bgs empty>nobody raiding>arena is empty>nobody has epic mount, everyone still dirt poorIs everyone just solo raiding like antisocial autists or something?
>>544180371you know what's going on.
Imagine the healslutting you can do for big burly tauren now that BGs are crossfaction...
>>544180564It's not botting, they are flesh and blood players. Nobody talks or does anything together.
>>544179952There are only 9322 60 on Ambershire. MC is easy to pug and some guilds might have multiple MC groups.
>>544180371*solo levelling mt
>>544179612I'm surprised to see so many guilds running BWL on nord, would have expected it to be the least raided one. People still raid MC for weekly and legendaries while there is nothing worth getting in BWL.
>>54418071990% of that "population" are bots and multiboxers
>>544178414>4 hours comfy MC with <OwO>Sounds based.
>>544179952It really feels like max level content is dead on Ambershire. Finding dungeons has been quite hard and everyone is HRing stuff. At least for BM, I'm finding a group way faster on Nordanaar compared to Ambershire. It's quite weird.
Not gonna lie, former Ambershire player here. This is fucking hilarious watching the server crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let Turtle WoW get away with stealing from Blizzard.
>>544180107I don't mind the pop but yeah stormwind is shit and the only saving grace is the music when you hear it for the first time
>>544177202>tryhard nostmonkeys>have been running mc for 10 years>only 30% faster than a rag-tag group of /v/irgins with fresh 60sWhat are you smoking?
>>544179952Many casual guilds don't log
>>544179952You can log and private it from appearing in rankings
>>544174876quality > quantity
Anyone playing horde on Tauri?
>>544176627>slower than the seamonkey guildkekbur even
>>544186108there's 1 anon who is an orc poster. who does. i don't know why tauri just doesn't enable cross fastion.
I cannot believe so many people use pfui, it's fucking hideous. Even the nostalgia preset looks like a phone ui.
>>544189003i recently changed to elvui (tauri) because debuffs icons were too small. its better than xframes or zpearl or shadowed for unit frames.
>>544189003I put up with it because of the QoL features and built-in fixes that usually require other addons. I still like it more than ElvUI.
TRVMP VVON
>>544189003becasue it just works. mouse over macros without having to use the root hack that is superwow and other qol the 1.12 client really needs sign me up?function over form for me.
>>544193670Anon it uses superwow under the hood...
>>544194553no it does not.
>>544175196what is there even to do at 60 other than raid log? genuine question, ive been an mmofag for almost 20 years but ive never played vanilla endgame
>>544189003For me, it's SUF and dominossince fucking 2007 I think
>>544196659The subhumans in the thread expect you to carry their useless characters through their attunements and then do it again for their alts.
>>544196614It has a fall back but it's a shitter version of it
Also a basic mouseover macro with superwow is just/run --CastSpellByName("Ability")/run CastSpellByName("Ability", "mouseover")You don't need more than this for anything
How the fuck do i track debuffs accurately on 1.12, do i need this superwow? As it is right now i cant track sunder after 5 stacks because its using a user defined timer and doesnt know what to do if you refresh at max stacks, timer just fucks off and disappears, using mpowa
>>544197976You don't. The server never shares that info. The most popular method is using pfUI. It has internal code to estimate them. There are some newish self-learning debuff timers (important because of talents, they use per character debuff timer estimates instead of per spell), but I'm not aware of any addons using that method to simply display timers on the UI.
Freaking Uldaman rares m8, 20 years playing and it's the first time I've see this one. Also got a Papal Fez.
>>544179612this isnt a definitive amount of detected raids, this is the people thhat went out of their way to log and upload their raid, half of guilds dont log at all, some outright ban it to not hurt anyones feelings.
>>544196659in actual vanilla? you'd farm gold, level alts or play with friends.in private servers where everyone has done this content 100 times by now, not much. most people aren't experimenting, exploring or farming gold becasue it's a private server and you don't need to consumable sweat to get a sub 2 hour mc clear.i think games like XIV, XI, PSO, Maple story, everquest, mabinogi ,runescape,had better just grind forever content than but wow after all was made for normal faggots so only having to login once a week is probably a wet dream in the year 2004, just don't forget you pay sub to only play 4 times a month. private servers you aren't even paying sub.
kino bg guys
<gulag>taurialliancewe NEED mages and shamansnow!
>>544200012cool im just gonna not use pfui and time it in my head then
God I can't wait to paly Demon Hunters again' both specs. They were legit so funShame about the downgrade in new zone quality in Legion
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>>544207931DH really was so fucking goodbaffling to me that they managed to make something as dogshit as evoker as their next new class, after they figured out how to make wow's gameplay actually FUN with demon hunters..
>Gulag is patchlogging until Legion drops
>>544206520>we NEED mages and shamansHow are Ench shamans in Legion anyways
>>544208218>team that always favors tanks and melee makes a tank/melee funWho would have thought?
>tauri's garbage>turtle wow injecting malware with their downloadsprivate server sissies..... we're fucked
>>544208617They fucked plenty of melee up in legionGranted, on top of DHs they also gave us Outlaw Rogues but still
>>544208809>>tauri's garbagebait
>>544208937>try to play server at least once a day>always lagging or disconnecting>not garbage
>>544208617Legion survival hunter exists you know
>>544209252What were they thinking with Hunter specs in general?
>>544207931>Shame about the downgrade in new zone quality in Legion???what are you on about nigga, Legion has some of the GOAT zones in all of WoWEspecially compared to the boring slop WoD's draenor is
>>544208430busted at last patch, top5 dpsbut iirc they were really artifact dependedor im mistaking it with ele maybebut definitely both specs were very good
>>544209252I like it. Its a shitshow, but its soulful shitshow, one of the last time blizz tried to do something soulful and interesting with a spec
>>544209252>>544209348>>544210586I actually never played them, what's wrong with them? All I know is that they're melee despite being hunters
>>544211617rotation is way too long for the mediocre damage
Hey
>>544211617survival is a melee classits basically not a rogue, not a warrior and not really a hunterits an interesting idea, but not really thought out very well
>>544193670whats wrong with superwow?
>>544197679works in world, doesnt work with unit frames
>no /epog/ threadw-what happened to pochie?
>>544176627>getting beaten by revSEAsiaAh hahahahahahahahahaha
>>544215215If it doesn't work you should get better frames because it even works with vanilla frames...
>>544215308Kaytotes... he slipped... him and Dutch were arguing, I don't know. He fell.
>>544214201>its basically not a rogue, not a warrior and not really a hunterSo like, feral druids?
>>544208809>turtle wow injecting malware with their downloadsqrd?
>>544178414This is a great list of guilds you should join instead of <Evil>.
>>544215516doesn't work with xperl
>>544215938feral druids actually do damage
>>544178692>top 10 guild>ranked 16uh oh stinkie >>544178414
>>544215695no... kaytotes... did we ever find out if he got what he needed?
>>544216426Depends on the expac and patch, even on expansions where they do end up top tier they spend months being pure dogshit 0 damage specsIncluding Legion where they straight up needed a 30% all around damage buff after multiple patches of buffs to even be worth picking
>>544197679huh, this works, where the fuck did you find the syntax for this? I spent days searching everywhere including begging for help in game and on the discord.now I just need to figure out how to do different ranks of spells with it
opening a second turtle server was a mistake. all new players have decision paralysis over which server to join.ultimately, nobody wants to play on a medium size server instead of a large one
>>544216956>>544197679...and why in the flying fuck the icon changes to match my first action bar after I cast one until I do /reload
2006 1.1.2 client with hacked dll inject pleas understand
>>544216956https://github.com/balakethelock/SuperWoW/wiki/Features
>>544218120I'm not seeing anything concise about how to make macros in that
>>544217442>they have decision paralysis >the choice is obvious Do you make contradictory statements because you're uneducated or brown?
>>544218638Maybe obvious to you. What if someone has friends on nord? What if someone actually wants to do kara 40 before a year from now? You call me stupid and brown yet you only consider your own viewpoint. Your permission to be a bocchiposter has been revoked.
>>544218869You're the one who said the decision is obvious, you retarded mud.
>>544219084I said nobody wants to play on a medium server. I did not ever say "the choice is obvious" I implied the choice is difficult because the result is both servers being medium instead of having one large server. Work on your reading comprehension before you ever post bocchi again.
>>544219362You're wrong and confirmed brown.
>>544219504I accept your concession.
>>544219179the client feels absolutely shit to use without it, so...
>>544217442Unironically facts, people think a gated progressive release is good for some reason I can't understand. The real issue is the prevelance of catch up gear that makes previous content irrelevant, but even that is barely an issue in vanilla. The expansions are much worse e.g. in 3.3.5 there is literally zero reason to do any raid other than ICC, and even despite that icecrown on warmane has maintained 10k daily players for a fucking decade. Fresh is a meme, and the worst part of it is how it contributes to the feeling people have of private servers never lasting more than a year or two.
>>544220868Warmane fakes like 2/3rds of the player count
>>544220967I doubt it, I have played there for years and dalaran is always absolutely packed with players, moreso than any other server I have played. There are always a ton of groups for every kind of content imaginable, even niche stuff like running old raids for transmog.
>>544220868>any raid other than ICC,Massive hyperbole considering a realistic "non raid catch-up" to ICC takes an astronomical amount of time there, you still want to do some raids. Ulduar specifically gets fucked over with its reward gear levels though
an ERP tranny being a white supremacist is hilarious lol>I love white people, that's why I have pretend sex with other incels on the internet instead of making more of them
>>544221772every character I have there as gone straight from the ICC 5 man heroics + AH epics into ICC itself. across 8 characters I have run ToC literally one time because I thought I might try for a trinket for pvp.
There will be a necromancer class
Which rogue spec for 1-100 on Tauri?
>>544230342kinolaw
>>544230342Seconding>>544232515Outlaw>Devs drop the single most fun melee class since WotLK Feral out of nowhere>Ruin it the very next expacEnjoy it while you canASSassination is same as always and the other spec is very generic gameplaywise but pic rel for flavor
Pirates are really fucking gay though
>>544222590To be fair, when me and alyna ERP we pretend she gets trans-preggers at the end, so the desire is there.
>>544233542They get the only actually sharp looking sword in all of WoW tho
>>544230342Thirding
>>544233178what's so great about outlaw rogues?
>>544238579GAMBLING BAYBEEHJust a fun overall class, has the potential to straight up one shot normal mobs starting from lv42, grappling hook is probably my most favorite movement tool as it can let you bypass practically fucking everythingThe class also has extremely high damage output in 7.3.5, might be the king of DPS with gawdlike rolls but still very high without it eitherHaving literally no AOE potential until lv63 does fucking suck ass but you have great crowd control and movement anyways and after 63 you end up doing great AOE
>>544239404Oh also IIRC it's the single fastest class after 90 with alacrity talent in more ways than one: you can hit the highest GCD reduction with Outlaw and the fastest auto attacks with the said alacrity+slice&dice(lv100 talent) but the auto attack build is kind of doodoo without enabling gear at the ass end of Legion
>>544233542if i'm so gay why are you the one about to have his booty plundered
>>544242643>Outlaw Rogues have a cool as fuck cannon artillery skill>It's shit and should never be pickedThat's why you guys are gay
>>544218638>>544218869>>544219084>>544219504alynstrasza get out of my house lol
speaking of "gay"anyone got any icy-veins guides from 7.3.5 ?tried way back machine but it is pain and I don't to watch random YT video of nasally faggot babbling about nothing for 20+ minutes
>>544246876I tried wayback machine with wowhead and it worked for the most part
>>544246876what do you need?
>>544255026guides for all classes and specs
>>544255026i need SEX
Was pretty hyped about my character building up his pre-bis and t0.5 gear and then I saw someone in a pug of the exact same race and class who was in fully enchant epic and raid gear and it bummed me out.
>>544157331This felt bad in retail, weird idea to port it over.
>>544157331the bitching about shamans/paladins is either going to double or disappear as people are forced to fight the one on their side and realize that they're both cancer
WAAAAGGGGGHHHHH
>>544255539Then go get some
so this is your average alliance player?
>>544261017I perfer helf pussy
>>544263750Asa...
>>544263750Eli...
>>544263750Sunethil...
>>544263750Elaynna...
>>544263750Every living man in existence...
>>544264486Fish...
I'm so glad they gave horde blood elves in the real game so I can play alliance without being associated with helftrannies
>>544266450your worgens, sister?
>>544263750Telol...
>>544266450night elves are still transcoded sister
>>544269671Ahhhh, back when fifty shades was the worst we thought it would get
Overlooked... Abandoned... Forgotten... Cold... Alone...
>>544270413Jib...
>>544270413Torzag…
>>544270413Elaynna...
>>544270413Himecut...
>>544270413Filthydrunk
I miss Himecut. That anon had a real eye for screenshots I tell you.
i cheated on my eb with a stable horse but its ok because it was in an AU
Filthydrunk kept FMC in check by bullying the crazies out. But in the end he was defeated by his true nemesis, Monster Hunter .Wherever you are, Filthydrunk, thank you. Thank you for your service.
>>544273714Asa...
If you were never the meat in an Elicia and Asalys sandwich don’t even reply to me because you may as well not even exist.
>>544178414>my normalfag casual guild raids better than evilHuh.
>>544274759Proof?
>tfw so forgotten, don't even make it into the list of forgotten people
>>544276140Yesma…Rapecock…Glupshitto…
>>544276140Pearl...
>>544274328This is a very exclusive high society circle that only includes Telol, Torzag and Jib.
i really enjoy playing on turtlethe people in evil are friendly and some really try to help you if they candont belive the lies you read here
>>544276660Telol yes. Torzag and Jib never.
>>544276660How did you forget about fuutank?
Who were the best ERP'ers in FMC?
>>544277243Jib and you would know if you ever gave Him a chance.
>>544276875what class should i roll?
>>544276991I pity Telol... once a strong, independent bear tank, now a sissified and caged tree, used and abused as a meatdildo by two unhinged elves...>>544277180Who?
>>544277291SylmaGargothDaddyxissuesJibElaynnaGrud
>>544277317whatever you like to play on a x1 vanilla+ server
>>544277291I heard he is quite popular on Epsilon nowadays
>>544277671it's basically x2 though
>>544276875hello aecheur, of course your clique will help you
lvl 10 on my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf frost mage
>>544279172i knowstill good to pick a class you would like to level for 50-100h>>544279239thats not my ingame name and im not leveling in a group
>>544276660It’s Fuutank, Telol, Zaptuah, and Filthydrunk.
how do i have fun with this game again
>>544280789play legion
>>544280789>how do i have fun with this game againPlay a hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf female.
>Cross-faction battlegroundsBut how? Do I turn into a orc when they put me in the Horde team? Will it most likely be just shamans vs shamans?
>>544281678If it's like BBC+ you'll just be put on the horde side of BGs even if you're alliance. Meaning both sides will have to deal with shamans being cancer
>>544281986Sounds retarded? Turtle must be very desperate to save its PvP scene. If only they could just nerf shamans but noooo...
>>544281302That sounds awful thoughbeit
>>544282449They don’t care about pvp but realize some players do so they just throw random pvp shit in hoping pvpers will like it but then they never really do because it’s all shit made by pvers.They could just find a couple random players who pvp a lot and say “here do whatever you want to pvp” and it would be a thousand times better.
telegethu get back here this instant
>>544282569It's great and I'm doing it again now.
>>544282449it doesnt make it fun that you have to GO BACK TO THE CAPITAL TO QUEUE FOR PVP EVERY 2 HOURS
>>544282708>green and blue gear through all level ranges purchasable with honor and BG tokens as well as epics of various levels purchasable at exalted rep with the BG factions>pvp xp(twinks can go fuck themselves, and if you absolutely must let people turn xp off then put them in a twinks only bracket when they do)>some measure, a tiny modicum of class balancing or at least some kind of hard counter to the most broken builds
>>544282708Would like some PvP too just to have a extra faggy military title next to my name but... its so fucking annoying.
So when's legion actually coming to tauri?
>>5442877022 weeks
>>544178414<evil> is handicapped by having 0 windfury totems
>>544287981bwo your yahben?
>>544287762proof?
>>544288448Doesn't use wft
>early shaman leveling sucks>don't help shamans level up>they never make it to 60>"B-BUT WE DON'T HAVE WF!!!"
Loot drama be likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtrIDFyVt5M
>>544289236Raura was a shaman and nobody helped him get 60......
>>544288448Yeben (currently in Heaven)
>>544289236why does shaman leveling suck?
>>544289394He didn't ask.
>>544289954But you boosted silkfang to 60.........
>>544289929why don't you try it?
>>544290245how far do i have to go untill i get what you meant?
>>544290406it never got better in classic
>>544287981Maybe you’d have a windfury totem or two if you stopped raidlogging and actually helped new guildies. I leveled a shaman up for a bit but got tired of doing it alone. When I realized I’d be on my own for attunes too I just gave the whole thing up. The moment I left the guild I got immediate offers to others and they actually helped me out. Why bother helping a guild that never helps you? Get bent.
How do some people level so quickly? Especially later I see some people easily level up 3 times in a single day. Meanwhile I need an entire day at level 30 or so to level up once.
>>544291108Tent 2x XP abuse
all three shaman specs rape in leveling on turtle>>544291050no guild will be whisper recruiting a random sub-60 shaman, and evil only ever had 3 shamans that even got above 40 (all three still in the guild, but inactive)
>>544291497bwo your yesben?
>>544242758Is Cannon Barrage that bad, really?
>>544291050You don't play wow
gnomes=onaholes
>>544291050I used to offer anyone attune runs and help out new players at every turn. But it was meaningless to them. Like a loyal dog I kept weeping and nuzzling my masters hand but I all I got back is a kick in the snout. As they pointed into the distance screaming at me to scurry off into the cold, harsh wilderness. Laughing and cheering at me as I broke down.But despite my broken heart, I listened to my master even if he hates me now and so I went away... that's how the people of /wpsg/ are. They want to take everything away from you, even your dignity only to then toss you away like garbage.
>>544292402You also don't play wow
>>544292858I do but I don't want to share all my characters with people on here. I have a level 60 character already.
Is my boywife Silkfang here?
I’ve got serious tauren druid envy. Every time one runs past me, I can’t help but think how free they are, not a single care. Especially the ones in T2, males or traurens - I love them all. One day I’ll reroll and main a tauren druid… one day
Imagine being an Alliance healer and being put on Horde team to heal big beefy taurens while they slaughter your own kin...
>>544295020Imagine being a big beefy tauren and you have to kill other big beefy tauren while a paladin is raidlead.
why should i level shaman?
>>544296531Silkfang said so
>>544295189Imagine being a big beefy tauren and you have to kill other black big beefy tauren (grimtotem) while a paladin is railed.
>>544296616silkfang never even played shaman
>>544296952She did with me
>>544166051The problem is BGs just have zero support from devs at any point, nowadays pretty much even the most casual game has a "hidden matchmaking rating" to sort things like premades and tryhards. Before then we played on dedicated servers and if a premade or exploiter joined say a TF2 server and stacked one team they'd all just get banned by the person who ran the server.It ain't even about being a "tryhard" anymore btw, it's about RMT to buy consumes on official servers. It costs hundreds of gold to properly tryhard WSG. It's totally broken yet easily fixable but simply nobody will do it.
>>544296796Tauren are awfully based the more I think about it. No goblins in all of Mulgore, racial segregation based on fur color, they protect nature and animals just like the nazis did...
moron
>>544298671They're meant to be killed. So they have goblin hunting grounds. Kind of like how the red district in Berlin used to be hunting grounds for catching Jews.
Maybe I should play a cow after all, only so that I can be racist towards black tauren. Telling them to get their black asses back to thousand needles and how their kind is not welcome in Thunderbluff. If the turtle devs give me trouble, I'm just saying I'm roleplaying and that those black tauren are clearly all Grimtotems. So my racist behavior is justified and lore-accurate.
>>544291497Guilds do whisper guildless lvl 50-60 shamans.
>>544298450>losers>befriend orcs (see turks)Yeah they do look Germanic.
What's the best spec to level shaman on turtle.
Sillu please respond to me
>>544301817I would have followed you, my brother... my captain... my warchief...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC-ol6xY5zQ
>>544296796Imagine the paladin just caps the points and gets all the honor instead, while she lets you two fight each other with wooden sticks.
>>544300143you will never be a real tauren
>>544300783Jealous of German superiority?
Sillu please talk to me...
Where can I find a wife like that?
>>544301245Bump
>>544306154What the fuck is wrong with you, you degenerate retard?
>>544306154>only one holedealbreaker frankly
>>544301817
I love you so much Sillu.
>>544302580kino
>>544308801Who?
Are Survival Hunters any fun in Legion? Also how do the Mage specs play this expac and which one is the most fun
>>544310987
>>544310987>>544307663
>>544310360>Are Survival Hunters any fun in Legion?they tried.>magesall of them are good, you can just see which one is more fun on the PTR realm
>>544310360mages are greatPLEASE roll a mage, we really need a fucking mage
>>544301817king...
rdf is slow. time to start another alt.
The problem with it being on WoD is>missing legendaries>missing artifact
>>544312719>missing legendarieswe got cucked out of the ring AND moose mountit ain't fair
>>544313030For me it's Felsteel Annihilator.Hope they add a basic HFC one day.
>>544298671How did they and the dwarves at excavation site pass through the only entrance into Mulgore?
>>544313481damn you guys beat BRD? that's so impressive
>>544312463That model was so goofy.
>>544313481I kneel.
>>544313481Where is Jib?
>>544313481>got HoJ on first BRD runI absolutely kneel.
>>544313481Fuark...
>>544313481>be the only blue in the guild >get treated like a goddess I should reroll Shaman.
I'd play a space goat or human or high elf or possibly a femdwarf shaman, but I will NEVER play a noshoe.
>>544315048we don't care man
>>544315048oh okanyways
>>544313481>when the chief tauren (female) orders both her elf cohorts to milk her udders from both sides at the same time
>>544313481>grunt bessiebelle lewd!
chiltsa...
>>544312463Oh my gosh! Oh my Garrosh! CD The sun of Grom! XD
Ass rogue seems pretty strong with shitter level 58 gear on Tauri
he's evil
>>544317657>reddithouse redditstorm
gnomes are such a fucking useless race
>>544311646>they tried.Can you elaborate, what's wrong really
>>544318118>not reddithouse cuckstorm
>>544301245bump
>>544316809Are the DPS trackers even any accurate right now
>>544318529t. worgen degen
>>544316809ass is ok, but outlaw should outperform it by a lot
>>544319880I don't see why they wouldn't beif it's like 5% inaccurate I don't care tbdesu
>>544318825the rotation is a bit too long for the damage output
>>544301245Enhancement
>>544320043Not until 63 probably because they literally have no aoe damage
Why are hordies so bad??
>>544321270teenager faction, the only thing that saves them is their racials and chain lightning
>>544321696>chain lightningsoon not anymore..
>>544321270I shall turn you into my personal pockethealslut for my big tauren bull once crossfaction bgs are implemented.
When is Stormforge launching their legionslop?
>>544322757you wont do shit, tranny outsider
>>544321270I always hope for turtles so i can nuke alliance faggots all day, but they fold within 20 minutes at the most every time in AV, boring as fuck.
>>544322757Name?
>>544323516Telol
>>544024595i got to level 53 on turtlewow then completely lost interest when i had to go to felwoodis it over for me?
>>544323758yes, retardcome on tauri
felwood just sucks balls man most ugly boring zone of all time
>>544323592LMAO
>>544324168Go away homo
>>544324531enjoy your gay aids forest
>>544324601Thanks, I will
because youre gay and a faggot
>log in to ambie>queue to heal scholo>no instant pop>log out>try again next day >repeat
>>54432507010k players
>>544326343if there were 10k players and 9k are dps or healers you'll still have to wait for a tank
>>544325070>log in to ambie>queue to heal scholo>no instant pop>lfg some chuds>form a group in 4-8m>do the dungeon>logout
trooniewow players lostunderstand?my revenge has been accomplished after 5 yearsmop won
>>544327347Pearl I kneel
>>544326343It hasn't peaked at 10k for a few weeks now
>>544327347Sylmapearl lost
Tauri.You join <gulag>.Now.
>>544328112I'm still leveling
HIGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nice server
and Pearl!
>>544328112thats a big ship
>>544320262But it still does enough damage to be completely viable, damage metrics aren't that far apart in 7.3.5. It also has stupidly high burst AoE damage, lets you have a real pet without making you play a huntard and has a lot of fluff. I don't get why people hate Survival that much.
>>544328186Deca...
>>544329086I don't know who that is
Which DPS meter for Tauri is better bros
>>544328112What class does gulag need?
>>544330197table etiquette
>>544329452Madti...
>>544329680details
new>>544331398>>544331398
>>544313481Umm, he did it before you, sis.
>>544220868>people think a gated progressive release is good for some reason I can't understandNTA but I rolled on Nordanaar like a year ago and within a month I went from preraid to tier 3 because guilds were so geared and rolling Naxx they could swing my rogue to collect gearThat character skipped every raid almost and has 8/9, Gressil, Claw of Frost Wyrm and the C'thun fistIt ruined my ability to really enjoy the server because this was pre k40 and the grind was basically done, I had to hard pivot into RP to keep engaged
