Gay Cleric edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>544303052 >Thread QuestionThoughts on clerics?
>>544348648>Thoughts on clerics?
downright peculiar...
We are finally getting Solasta 2 news tomorrow.
>>544348648>TQClerics were better in 2e.
40gay fags look like what normies think dnd fags look like.
>>544348774Nooooo
can 40k loreafags list examples of cuckoldry in 40k lore?
>>544348803does this one have an auto mode too?
>>544348803>bought out by kepler interactive Its going to suck.
>>544348916Half the instances involve the male RT alone
>>544348648lamer than paladins, less interesting than oracles, less flavourful than shamansmy least favourite class
>>544349093the only one of these that's actually comparable is oracle
Speaking of buying out and funding does owlcat receive esg money or something similar?
Whose ur lot when u out on the sesh gettin proper off it
>>544348916The entire franchise was free of this until Owlcat
>>544348803first solasta was fun, worst thing about it was the characters looking like complete assI'll keep my eye on it
>>544349167don't think so. they're just naturally faggots.
Why does only sorcerer get meta magic in 5e? I can understand them getting more then clerics and wizards but being the only ones to get it seems strange.
Will incels have a meltdown if Larry sexes the femquisitor while not getting a fem Eldar romance?
>>544349345Of course
ugh, can we just have /dhg/ already, sick of this general if I'm honest I'm only here for RT/DH
Dwarf cleric/ranger or human zerk->mage for scs from 1?
>>544349345You gotta admit it's unfairWomen get 2 kinds of elf fantasy with Marz and Larry, while men just get Yrliet humiliation which is not a romance
>>544349479Make it if you want it so badly
Can Warhammer fags please make their own general?
Ideal combat role for the protagonist?Ideal combat role for the de facto love interest?Ideal combat role for the comic relief?
>>544349327Because the designers of 5e are hacks who were just dividing up all the concepts that were floating around to justify this or that while balancing the spells so that wizards wouldn't be too powerful (despite there being no game system better suited for playing spellcasters than D&D, they bought into the non-caster memes of previous editions)
Support classes are the real chad classesFightercels couldn’t do shit without me
>>544349647Human Male FighterElf Female MageHalfling Female Rogue for a side piece.
>>544349345desu it's justified because women get all the xeno wish fulfillment, men get nothing
>>544349647>Ideal combat role for the protagonist?needs melee. everything else is flavor.>Ideal combat role for the de facto love interest?I'm partial to thief sluts.>Ideal combat role for the comic relief?caster
There is a fey curse on CRPG studios1,000 studios and IPs must be burned to the groundRomance and streamliningStudios burnedIPs wastedSubscriptions, DLC
>there are multiple anons in this general that unironically care about solasta 2 aka 5e combat simulator 2Is there literally only dark heresy and solasta 2 coming out in 2026?
>>544349642It doesn't work, I've tried in other threads where the Warhammer stuff starts to metastasise to suggest the same thing (in more honest fashion) and have even attempted it myself, because it seems like it'd be a good idea to have one big "Warhammer Games General" that covers them all.The threads always fall apart within a couple hours.
>>544349871>The threads always fall apart within a couple hoursWhy isnt there a ton of warhammer games?
You will never get rid of the 40k Owlslopfags ahhaha!
Will /crpgg/ ever grasp the concept of studios having multiple teams?
>>544349954In a myriad of genresI'd kill myself before having to interact with tidefags or total warfagsAt least I know everyone here loves to hate crpgs
>>544349804First ... person....>holds up a bony fingerAvoid... Failguard... Clockwork Revolution...
Solasta is 5e combat taken to its logical extreme. Your favorite stuido wishes they could pull of something similar.
>>544349954There are, actually. There's even a ton of slop/indie-tier ones like Battle Sister or Dakka Squadron, but anons seem to prefer to stick to their specific genre/community generals instead of congregating in one big Warhammer one.
So Warhammer fags feel entitled to spam here and ruin crpg discussions because they are unable to keep their own general alive? They really are pitiful little fags.
Whats going to be your future solasta 2 team?
>>544350154How excited for DH are you
>>544350154Do you think this looks organic
>>544350108>having to interact with tidefagsI migrated here from /coopg/ after the Arbites DLC, I love both Vermintide and Darktide and regularly post in this thread with you.
Tactical Adventures acquired by Kepler InteractiveMicrosoft shuttering Obsidian>echoing cackles
>>544349345The thing is, with RT I guess they could get away with "lore reasons" for no Eldar on humans with Craftworlders. And Marazhai was a Deldar degenerate. But if Laarthyr is a Corsair that's a Craftworlder (Corsairs are just a bit less autistic and more chill than Craftworlders, but still Craftworlders) it would be odd that the same is not being applied to male characters. If the Corsair has a normal relationship with sex. And especially messed up if there is a female Eldar romance and she has some autism with no physical intimacy of any kind again or is flat out un-romancable.The double standard would just be weird.
>>544350268Me and my elf (male) harem
>>544350282That's fair but you aren't posting in the same brainrotted manner as what happens in /coopg/ which is why I let it slideHegel would weep at the amalgamation of all the worst schizos in one place
I'm too stupid to make an OP for /dhg/, sorry, I'm just too shy and don't know what to put there plus I would probably mess it up
Larian=LeBron James Obsidian=Michael Jordan Owlcat=Kobe
>>544348648>Thoughts on clerics?Objectively overpowered class that can do everything and yet I never play because I just find religious roleplay boring. Every cleric can just be defined as "I'm my deity but mini and at most once in a while I'll get tempted to do something my deity wouldn't approve of and that's what my entire character arc will be about, with deciding to just merely making me jump ship to another deity that likes what I did".I did have fun once pretending to be a Warhammer warrior priest of Sigmar in a NWN2 module designed for clerics only.
>>544350451They have the same problems in copeg where Darktide dominates all discussion, similar to here how Owlcat games dominate everything. Same kind of whining. More talk of infidelity here though, more racism over there.
>>544350532Then suffer
I’ve never seen anyone bitching about owlcat actually try to talk about anything else.
>>544350760WE are all goijg to be talk about solasta 2 non-stop when it comes out.
I don't know who is attached to any post but I'll make those connections in my mind
>>544350876You can tell who the guy bitching about RT is because that shit is on cooldown.
>>544350961As one who bitches about 40slop (I don't mind discussing RT btw), I can tell you for certain I'm not alone.
So which one of owlcats black science ladies be the crpg waifu of the year.
>>544350760Let's talk about the VTM: Redemption fan remakeThey say they have a premier in the making for """next year"""Hopes, thoughts, fears, slurs?
>>544351056Probably her. Shes way better looking than Epi
>>544351056Idira because she has the strongest scent.
If you dont romance one of the black science ladies then you aren't playing the game the way owlcat intended.
>>544351118shut up retard, talk about owlcat
>>544350630Oh and also I have never understood why Harrim wasn't more popular in Kingmaker. Actual fresh new spin on a cleric's background and character arc than just more fucking "Yeah so I was given to my church and I love my god/dess and follow their commandments". An actual spin to why he started worshiping Groetus, specially for such a weird deity, the plot twist that he was actually favored by Torag but not in the way he thought and his entire ideology being both erroneously interpreting Groetus' teachings and also mistakenly assuming Torag hates him.
Everyone is fine with RT talk. It’s clear we just hate you spamming 40k lore.
>>544348648I always play Chaotic Evil clericsI am fanatically devoted to the idea of being a complete and utter retard
>>544351052Have you tried talking about something else to encourage discussion instead of just endlessly filling the thread with more whiny posts about 40k
>>544351310>Harrim wasn't more popularBecause hes a dwarf and Tristian, the other cleric, is a cute boy
>>544351310I really enjoyed Harrim, very memorable character. I was happy to have him in my party, the glum bastard.
>>544351364That sounds fun, I should try that.
>s-stop complaining about 40k lore dumpsssss>you’re the o-one not discussing crpgs>n-nevermind that we spam 40k novellas all d-day>you complaining is t-the problemDamn 40k virgins really are repulsive little fags
>>544351620This too is a 40k post.
>>544351384I talk about a lot of CRPGs almost daily.There's a clear change that happens with 40slop though, it happened when the DLC released and it will happen again with DH.Happy for you retards who somehow enjoy that boring-ass setting, but I do wish you would congregate in /dhg/ where you can lore-dump about the grim darkness to your heart's content.
>>544351620Do you think Larry will open his legs for a monkeigh
>>544351118Tell me more
I wanna smooch her.
What's the ideal region for a Warhammer Fantasy crpg?
Solasta 2SwordhavenBanquet for FoolsWasteland 4Pillars 3Jagged Alliance 4The Black HoundIcewind Dale 3
>>544351791youtu.be/z-0DA42c1-oLatest dev reportThey're gonna do Christof's story first and then after that possibly see about making a proper custom character RPG playing your own guy out of what they've created
>>544352053Not a crpg
>>544351310He was a good character but not a great party member so he gets passed over for tristian.
Who is developing bg4? Just some random group hasbro put together?
There is as much need for a "bg4" as there was for a "bg3": None.
>>544352185VTM: Redemption is a CRPG. The skyrim engine is an evolution of the morrowind engine, which is a CRPG.
>>544352357the people from veilguard who wizards hired and maybe beamdog
BG3 should have been:Forgotten Realms: <subtitle about the bg3 plot>BG4 then could be:Forgotten Realms: <subtitle about whatever>And in fact then they could have things likeSpelljammer: <whatever subtitle for the AP>and so on. Just an endless franchise, drinking up money. But instead they are gay retarded butt aids, and that's a sad thing for them.
>>544352053Why does it always have to be a Skyrim mod
>Lantern King laughs quietly in the background
I don’t care about game titles or whether it’s a true sequel. If it’s a good game I’ll play it.
>>544352683>prominently features the city>includes balduran>bhaalspawn protagonist and a plot wrought by his own handsnah, title is fine
>>544352593Did they actually hire veilguard devs?
>>544348648Clerics should really have paladinesque rules and rituals that they have to adhere to.
>>544352948You and millions of others. Forgotten Realms: The IllithidsForgotten Realms: Some Other ShitForgotten Realms: Down and Out in Waterdeep and Luskanall could just use the same engine>b-b-b-but we HAVE to blow our load on mocap!Lantern-king laughs
>>544353069yes, iirc the biggest ones of note were the troon project director and some of the writers
>>544353219Why are you pretending bg3 wasn’t absurdly successful well beyond what any crpg dev would hope for though
>>544351774No according to leakeranon Larry is in a cute gay marriage to another male elf corsair.
>>544352683>Forgotten RealmsThere's no brand recognition in that. Sounds like some mobile game junk.You might be able to get some going with>Forgotten Realms: Baldur's Gate 3
>>544353368You're completely missing the point.You are the type who apologizes for 14 years since Skyrim, right?
>>544353368it's some autist angry the name was used again
>>544353414That "leaker" made shit up
>>544353547Don't pretend that brand recognition drove BG3 sales. Like there's millions of grognards out there fans of BG2 just waiting for "some kind of ending to that saga". I shouldn't have to tell you how idiotic that is but if you're confused I can help you.
>>544353567Why would I care about this either way?
I just want a fancy Underdark game
>>544353414That's really irresponsible of him. He needs to do his part to expand the Eldar race.You think Yrliet enjoyed being impregnated by Marazhai? I doubt it. She did what she had to do for the sake of the race.
>>544353803Ahh, I see that you're a simpleton. Pleasure speaking with you, I hope you have a nice day or night.
bg3 is a fun game
>>544353745It did. It has huge name recognition. Not for "closure" but just for more Baldur's Gate.
>>544353909You will never be a shareholder.
>>544354105Is your thesis that the success of Baldur's Gate relied in large part, or even at all, with familiarity about BG1&2?
>>544354189>Baldur's GateBaldur's Gate 3 of course
>>544353080i was always curious why this wasn't the caseif tyr wouldn't tolerate x from his paladins, why would he not mind with his clerics
>>544352053huh, this is halfway decent
>>544354189>>544354336That is my thesis and it is indeed the null hypothesis (the default)You assert that BG1/2 had nothing "even at all" to do with the success of BG3. This is an extraordinary claim which requires extraordinary proof.
Knights of the Old Republic: An Exile's Tale
>>544354415it does look interesting, though it's not a crpg and doesn't belong in discussion here. Lots of interesting games around. I guess this is the general for discussing CRPGs though.
>>544354573Is the original vampire:redemption game a crpg?
>>544354689yes but shut up, go back to talking about owlcat
Kotor game where you play as Mission.>do little break-in jobs with Zalbaar>smuggle goods for extra cash>avoid creepy old Rodians trying to grab your ass
Azata for a melee character. Good or bad idea? Otherwise I'm going Angel I guess.
>>544354530You don't set out to prove your null hypothesis my retard.You set a null hypothesis and then show that evidence doesn't support it within some specific bounds. You would aim to reject the null hypothesis.So your null hypothesis would be that familiarity with BG1/2 has nothing to do with its success, and you would show me evidence contrary to it.But more casually (but you're welcome to go a more robust route, however I'll need to see some data), it's quite clear that most BG3 players have no experience with BG1&2. Just simply look at player numbers of each game.
*drops mic*
>>544354549i did have a friend who was pretty pissed it wasn't a continuation of revan's story but just some other dude
>>544355079>So your null hypothesis would be that familiarity with BG1/2 has nothing to do with its successNo, that's your null hypothesis.You're the one with the theory that BG3 did not benefit from BG2 whatsoever. Since you have not demonstrated this theory, the null hypothesis (BG3 succeeded as a sequel) must prevail.
Not really worth responding to, but good on you for keeping up the spirit.
>>544355024It’s fine but it feels like a waste if you’re not a gish
>>544355079>So your null hypothesis would be that familiarity with BG1/2 has nothing to do with its success, and you would show me evidence contrary to it.Am I having a stroke or is this completely insane?Doesn't that mean you can make any insane declaration and it's up to the listener to disprove it otherwise you win?
>>544355927Hrm, guess I'll go angel but that feels like a waste too.
>>544356117I'm not being paid to teach you about how null hypothesis works, but the short of it is that you assume a position and then show that it cannot be true. This is pretty fundamental stuff.
>>544352683BG3 is unplayable bullshit because they didn’t let you be a Githzerai
The bg name obviously great for marketing. But who cares? It’s not like you were going to get a faithful bg sequel this many years removed from the OGs. Just think of it as DOS3 in bg universe. Don’t be some insecure purist. That shit is just repulsive. Almost as repulsive as 40k nerds or critical role fanboys.
Null hypothesis: The medicine doesn't work.Now I show that beyond reasonable expectation, the null hypothesis is false.I'm not proving that the medicine works, but I'm disproving the null hypothesis. This is really basic scientific method.
>>544356650>It’s not like you were going to get a faithful bg sequel this many years removed from the OGs.Nobody was asking for it.Should have been Forgotten Realms: WhateverForgotten Realms: Some Other ThingSpelljammer: Cool ShipDark Sun: Would Never HappenThe idea is that this kind of branding opens up infinite possibilities, where "HURR DURR BEE GEE THREE" is fan service: 1. nobody asked for2. most people don't care about3. actually kind of offends the people that do care about it4. really limiting on what to do next
>>544356356>the short of it is that you assume a position and then show that it cannot be trueSo why don't you have to do that
sell me on solasta
companion idea: a norse woman who has to strip to use her ice magic
Is wasteland the next logical step if I liked Jagged Alliance 2 and 3? Obviously different setting but I played shadowrun as well and kinda just want something that is guys with guns,setting could be anything
>>544357441The null hypothesis is that Solasta is worth playing. If you can't present evidence that is NOT worth playing, you must assume the null hypothesis is true.
>>544357208This is out of scope for /crpgg/, please go to school.>>544357441Feels like a casual comfy homegame, quite good tactical experience including walking on walls and actual flying. Good music, good solution to the "god all this fucking loot" problem.There's some jank of course, but you asked me to sell you on it.
>>544357694No you dummy, the null hypothesis would be that it's not worth playing and you would work to disprove the null hypothesis, holy shit
Is solasta 2 less ugly though
>best girl isn't a romance option why do devs do this?
>>544348648Shadowrun Dragonball/HK or Underrail? I loved Rogue Trader and WOTR
>>544357636Wasteland 3 would be a good next step for sure.
>>544357201I agree bro but there is nothing you can do about it now and the game is fun so may as well get over it.
Jesus Christ, look at that sword.
>Shadowrun Dragonballwould playI've only played HK and Underrail, but they're very different experiences, hard to recommend.HK: good writing, very low build autism, lots of reading. Cool story.Underrail: ESL writing, I guess there's build autism but to me it felt like "do things right/meta or fail". I don't know about the story because I dropped it a bit in, I guess it's just moving around in post-apoc myetro.
>>544357201Is dark sun the one where the halflings ride dinosaurs? I do agree with you , more of it sat on DnD in mainstream off back of 5e, the naming was just a slight cop out but I get why they did it and went all in with the usual structure and load it with fan service. Also you’re right people didn’t go back but I also feel like we’re firmly in a point in time where most people don’t go back to things that far in the past. We’re old,honky
>>544358101Do you like build autism or reading
>>544358396>lawful good
>>544358243>the game is funIf you say so. Act 1 is good, a couple points in Acts 2 and 3 were alright, that's about all I can give it.
>>544358621I like the build autism in RT better than WOTR. Maybe perfect balance would be between the two. The amount of reading in RT is acceptable, WOTR can be a bit bloated.>>544358532Which would you say is more immersive, with more interesting decisions, and better combat?
>>544358748I get you want to be a pretentious gamer with good taste but you should stop being a contrarian fag. The game is obviously fun or it wouldn’t be so successful.
>>544358396i wish she was able to join you for act 4 like the TTbut i suppose owlcat's contrived drama wouldn't have worked as well
>>544359007Go with Shadowrun Honk. Underrail is overwhelming build autism, and Honk does not have anywhere near as much bloated reading as WotR
>>544359007Underrail is a pure build autism game. There’s nothing else.
could your knight commander beat BG3's netherbrain?
>>544351310It's more due to how his class sucks gameplay wise and him being quite annoying sometimes, while doing literally nothing later in the game compared to the other companions.I feel he's the Trevor of KR. Interesting background that happens mostly offscreen, shitty gameplaywise
>>544359267>>544359282Thanks, I'll go with Shadowrun
>>544359372>Can a lv 20/10M character beat a boss fought at lv 10?
>>544359372No way lmaoRaphael would already be too much for the KCNetherbrain would slaughter him
I wasn't planning on siding with Auntie's Choice but it mostly seems like the better option here.For the future I plan on siding with the monks, but I haven't met them yet. So far it's just been Protectorate vs Auntie.
>>544359097>I get you want to be a pretentious gamer with good tasteWhat do you think I would get out of that? I'm giving you my legitimate opinion. I think Act 1 was very good, but I think it's a pretty mid game that leans heavily on graphics and mocap, which doesn't really "awe" me. Never has, never will. And those things will never make for a timeless classic.
>>544360112not a crpg
>>544360345What is a crpg
>>544359372The KC could beat Vlaakith single handed.
>>544359582Underrail isn’t actually build autism. You just can’t win with a mongoloid build. Those guys have been spamming that build autism thing for ages just because they got filtered.
>>544360708Wish GG
>>544359007Between those two you should be asking if you actually enjoy reading. If so, HK for sure. If not, then HK will not be fun for you. There's a lot of reading, yes a lot of it is optional but that's also where a lot of where the "game" is. Underrail is much less reading so if you're someone who sees the reading as something to just get through, go with Underrail I suppose, though I didn't personally enjoy it, many people do. But HK is probably pretty shit for someone who doesn't enjoy reading.
>>5443608265e wish is incredibly cucked.
>cuckoldry has replaced the word for "bad" in his headSo far gone, completely lost
Oh no...we've joined corporate middle management!
>>544361206not a crpg
>Pick weapon focus for a TWF build at level 1>Still have human feat but no idea what to pickI'm a ranger so I'll get TWF at level 2 but I hav eno idea what else to get.
>>544360975Vlaakith can party wipe you with itKC has no defense against itThey'd get slaughtered
My weapon focus? Yeah it's called my wit and cunning. ;)
>Spell Effect: You utter a single word of power that instantly kills one creature of your choice, whether the creature can hear the word or not. >Any creature that currently has 101 or more hit points is unaffected by power word kill. So it's worthless then
How many overseer ravens is too many
>>544361954I wouldn't say worthless but I'm not a huge fan of those spells with the HP threshold, especially on higher difficulty. Usually I put them in if I have a spell slot I don't know what to do with, or just feel like it. Nice to basically erase someone, but there are much better alternatives, I'd rather metamagic up previous spells even. I also just think damage/kill spells are much more boring than CC though, so that's just me.
>>544361206
>>5443619545e issue
>>544360975KC = Yrliet5e Wish = the RT
>>544361331neither is >>544302071 but we all know you're a huge faggot whose sole purpose is to shitpost
There comes a point when it's time to stop and we've clearly passed that.
It’s fucking criminal how poorly owlcuck games run despite not being visually impressive whatsoever
If the outer worlds isn't a crpg are fallout and vtmb not crpgs
Deus Ex is not a crpg
>>544354189>Baldur's Gate 3 relied in large part, or even at all, with familiarity about BG1&2?that's not brand recognition isbaldur's gate is a household name even if only 2% of bg3 players played bg1&2your argument is like saying the witcher 4 will be sold only to hardcore witcher fans who have played all the games, read the books, and even watched the horrible netflix show
I want a webway dlc between act 3 and 4
How do people even figure out the secret ending in wotr. What actually tells you to go there on a very specific date?
>>544364003They data mind it
>>544359372Yes... Very easily>>544359976Retard
>>544364003I think the papers you get in Pulura's Fall at least hints at the date, might have even given the exact date
>>544364053>no argumentsI accept your concessionReminder the netherbrain can solo the rest of the world as per the dark urge ending meaning they can beat Elminster who's 10X stronger than the KC
>>544363495Sure, if Witcher 3 came out 25 years before Witcher 4, and it looked entirely different and had almost nothing to do with Witcher 3
>>544364003Stargazer temple shit
How much longer until the definitive edition of temple of elemental evil?
>>544364156people wouldn't forget the witcher name especially if newer titles in the genre are always compared to the name
>>544364003There's hints ingame, vague as they are, but generally they let guide writers/certain journalists become aware of it as part of their release marketing so it pops up on a wiki or guide website within a reasonable amount of time to let players know. That and datamining.
>>544364259>definitive editionTim Cain just called it that to be nice, all he did was give the mod groups that are working on the steam version some cliff notes then fucked off.
>>544364130I dunno who Elminster is but VSbattles puts him at tier 6 - continent destroyingKC is reality bending in his peak
>>544364425>VSbattlesKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Temple of elemental evil and solasta 2 will save this general. Combat GODS will run this general.
how would Goku during the Saiyan arc fare in WotR? keep in mind his power level is over 8000
>>544364425>KC is reality bending in his peakSo is elminster with WishMeanwhile the KC still needs an army to stand a chance against the abyss. Elminster could wipe it out with a single spell. And the brain is above him AND the rest of the worldKC stands no chance
>>544364760You do realize the pathfinder setting has wish too right? It'll just end up being a playground battle of>nuh uh I have unblockable laser blocking powers
>>544364156so once again you don't understand what brand recognition islet me repeat your argument with a real world example so others can see how stupid it is>Don't pretend that brand recognition drove BG3 sales. Like there's millions of grognards out there fans of BG2 just waiting for "some kind of ending to that saga".>Don't pretend that brand recognition drove Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace (1999) sales. Like there's millions of old school fans of the SW trilogy (1977-1983) just waiting for "some kind of prequel to that saga".
How did zoomers somehow manage to make power level autism even more autistic and annoying?
>>544364893wotr doens't have it meaning the KC doesn't have it
>>544365086WotR precedes the video game release.
>i wish for the other guy to dieok bitch nigga, he's dying 999 years from now on
I wish for the other guy to die like right now and that doesn't harm me or my friends in any way
>>544364893It was already that
Just watch me L, I'll wish names with my right hand and masturbate with my left hand
>>544365168Oh yes, we are definetely talking about the tabletop here in /crpgg/Be serious anon
>>544365787In that case, Elminster doesn't use wish in any of his video game appearances. Why should I believe he can?
>>544365842Remove wish from him if you want, that doesn't make the KC a reality warper. Also Vlaakith does use wish in game and she still falls to the brain.
Time to play some roles
>>544364910notice how power level discussions are always started by the owlcrap crowd? hurrr my KC could one shot god
>>544365970I too ignore the existence of the sanctioned reality warper (aeon) and illegal reality warper (trickster)Also you only proved Vlaakith was a jobber, not that Elminster can use wish in his vidya form.
>>544365986do blackwater nigga
>>544365970My dad could beat up your dad.
Forgot he's here, somehow I remembered him meeting up with me a bit later>>544366121later, going to have to wait for the Queen to arrive at some point anyway so might as well do it then
>>544366115>Also you only proved Vlaakith was a jobber, not that Elminster can use wish in his vidya form.It's irrelevant because the brain can defeat both. The fight is brain vs KC.The brain defeats at least one definitive wish user as well as the rest of the world.>sanctioned reality warper (aeon)Highly conditional and bound to laws>illegal reality warper (trickster)The only instance of that he does is turning vallexia into a chair
>>544366297>definitive wish userAs defined by the tabletop? Get serious anon, this is /crpgg/.
>>544366396As defined by the game when she uses it to insta wipe youretard
what's Vlaakith's power level
>>544364910Power level fags are destined to be whiny little shits. It is their nature
>baalbuddy
>>544351310Mechanically he's less straightforward than Tristian and Tristian healsluts way, way better so people just kind of left Harrim at home
>>544348648I never cared much for clerics because, conceptually, they don't rely on their own power. Fighters, rogues, and wizards hone their crafts in their own ways, but a cleric getting stronger basically means their god decides they're worth some more special juice. I never play one because it feels demeaning
Always funny to see Finnish names and stuff in fantasy settingsPainajai is just the Finnish word for a nightmare (painajainen) without the diminutive ending of -nen, and they are fittingly demons that feast on/cause nightmares iirc
>>544363761Same. It's so anticlimactic at present.>And so, the Rogue Trader and his motley retinue encountered many dangerous beasts and thrilling adventures on their journey through the Webway, none of which we can show youaccompanied by ass-tier animation who don't even vaguely resemble the characters.Even an interactive book-thing would be nice.
Solasta poo
>>544367639I was hoping they would do some late game dlc but with how mad people got about the second dlc being slightly later I think they'll be scared off
>>544361561>losing initiativeVlaakith is getting Grandmaster's Rod Weirded and there is nothing she can do about it.
Jocasta -> Jostica Solasta -> ???
>>544368369
wish there was more stuff like this present, being able to work with Jerribeth is a pretty fun thing
>it randomly prevents you from loading or continuing as well as randomly preventing you from saving
>>544365374The other guy gets turned into a Lich and is now really pissed at you.
>>544366495>I just insta killed a level 8 dude with my super spell I can do the same to a level 20/MR10 guy tooHow do you know she killed you with wish and nor just duplicate something like Finger of Death, which is what Wish is used for in the TTRPG, i.e. duplicating lower level spells. By the end game the KC is facing CR30 monsters, anything with a statsheet is fair game for the KC.
>>544368369Sostila obviously
Is Pokémon coliseum a crpg?
>>544351310because most people use any cleric they stat as a caster/buffbot where harrim excels as a chad melee cleric
>>544351310Short, bald, and fat.
>>544351749>I do wish you would congregate in /dhg/Too bad Wish got nerfed in 5e.
>>544368369Bastila -> Balasta
>>544368856How is this even possible? I can understand not being able to save randomly, but I've never come across a situation where the game prevents you from loading
"Profit Factor" was a pointless mechanic in RT. It probably works fine in the tabletop as a rough guide to help the DM and players improvise, but in a game where you need an exact PF to buy a special shotgun from a merchant or whatever, it's pointless alongside reputation.All the PF rewards and gains should have given specific reputation instead.
>>544369365Pokefags have there own board>>>/vp/
protect her
>>544370295I really don't think it's safe having cables going directly into your head that way, not with that much slack.Maybe they're magnetic like cochlear implant emitters and will come away harmlessly if you pull them.
>>544370295There should have been more Vladaim in the gameMan was an absolute chad and great to interact with
>>544370295>it's pointless alongside reputation.Why didn't owlcat copy the superior crpg solasta and make it so if you work to much with one faction the opposing faction doesnt like you? The reputation mechanic is literally worthless in rogue trader since you can just grind warp battles and dump off all the gear. It only took me an hour of grinding to hit max rep with almost everyone.
>>544370391There have been numerous fights where she outdamaged my Angel I think she can protect herself
>>544370427I would go so far as to drop Calcazar completely to make room for more Vladaym and some of the footfall crooks. Calzone was introduced too late and monopolized the latter half of the game.
>>544370249My theory is that it's a microsoft account sign in issue. If you're ever logged out of your account, you can't access you saves, nor create new ones. I'm on steam so I'm guessing there's a periodic idle time-out of accounts or something. Exiting to main menu always solves this issue for another hour or so, until it pops up again. And when you go to main menu, it has a little popup that says signed in. Other games have had this problem and this fits the pattern.It's past my bedtime so I'm off for the day but my introductory review after the first several hours is mostly positive. I'm just looking for something at least "ok" while we wait for larian/owlcat/solasta/etc and so far it's fun. It's just fallout nv with slightly less soul.
>>544370549That would be sane, and how rep is typically handled in games like this.But Owlcat prefers to let you max all your numbers so you can feel powerful. I mean you can be best friends with the pirates and the merchant navy they prey on, and they are both standing alongside each other wishing you well on your trip into Act 5.
>>544370586I wouldn't go that far unless they'd rewrite a large part of the game, Calcazar is too integrated in too many things to be removed easily>>544370650Do you need a microsoft account to play the game on Steam, or is it just something like having a PSN account for the Sony games on Steam?
Rogue trader needs more items
>>544369787Was it? That anon's wish could work just fine under a 5e wish spell.
There's like 2 items you want from the vendors. stuff you find is much better.
>>544371601>There's like 2 items you want from the vendorseven more bad game design that makes faction rep and the whole trade system even more worthless.
I like the rep system. Gold is essentially meaningless in almost every rpg that doesn't have a more rigid mission structure. Might as well just make it more of a progression system.
Owlcat couldn't make an actual faction system that locks you out of things because that means they would have added real choices and consequences that effect your gameplay.
OWLCAT SUCKS DAE AHAHAHAHAH
Jae = space Wenduag>loyal to her tribe/gang to a point>but will ultimately do what is best for herself>will latch onto the most powerful man within reach>short
>>544373749And black!
>>544374196Wenduag isn't black, she's a gypsy.But then Jae is a gypsy too.
>the color of obsidian>not blackokay, tranny.
I don't get this meme that obsidian is blueIt's not blue
>>544374515it's actually a rainbow
why is owlcat like this?
>>544358559>Is dark sun the one where the halflings ride dinosaurs?Nah, that's Eberron. Dark Sun they're just cannibals and headhunters.
>>544375131That's for Kibbles
Is Jae latina?
>kibbles Isn't that a dog food?
>>544375363Oh, so that's where the weird halflings in the planar sphere come from then? Cool
>>544375424Not with all that "ashmag" and "shereen" stuff. She's iranian or some sort of levantine arab scum.
>>544375424They prefer latinx
When is the next crpg coming out?
>>544375648She's not that dark holy shit>American challenge: imagine a dark skinned person who is not a negro>Difficulty: Impossible
Jae should have been darker than idira
>>544375597I think she just learned all that from Mercy.
eurofags can literally not go 1 hour without feeling inferior to americans. we never think about you but we are always on your minds.
>>544370295>"Profit Factor" was a pointless mechanic in RT. It probably works fine in the tabletop as a rough guide to help the DM and players improvise, but in a game where you need an exact PF to buy a special shotgun from a merchant or whatever, it's pointless alongside reputation.The problem with PF in RT is that it's a system which expressly exists to represent the fact that you're so wealthy you don't even need to think about money ... and then Owlcat completely counter that by bolting on their retarded reputation system which has your planet-owning rogue trader riffling through piles of garbage in the lower decks for half-empty fuel cells or looting corpses for generic lasguns. Fucking mind-boggling.
>>544375424She's from space
I should have been able to go into a ton of debt and commit fraud and tax evasion in rogue trader.
>>544376075What do they use PF for in the ttrpg? Not buying a single boltgun from a trader on Footfall I guess.Maybe it could be used to outfit your entire crew with improved weapons, in conjunction with an improved ship combat and boarding system
>>544376125Space Mexico
>>544375754Don't know any full 1.0 releases (unless you count OW2, which launches fully tomorrow), but Dark Heresy's alpha is on 16.12. and Solasta 2's early access starts early next yearOh, and Temple of Elemental Evil is supposed to get a re-release on Steam sometime before next year iirc
nobody gives a shit about ToEE dude
>>544376878I do because I like 3.5e and turn-based games.
>>544376438live long and prosper, cabron!
im excited for solasta 2.
I'm excited for esoteric ebb.
I'm apathetic about WeepstoneIt just impresses on me that 1e and OSR are fun around a table, but far too dry for a single player game.
Why do so many devs use unity? Is it because it's cheaper or something?Poe and tyranny, use much more gpu resources on my 3070 compared to pic related, even though those two games have static background images and low res textures compared to the much newer, much more visually impressive, fast paced action game in pic related and it utilizes roughly 10% of the gpu resources those two other games do.I hate that unoptimized trash engine like you wouldn't believe.
>>544377835>because it's cheaper or something?Yes and also its really easy to use compared to other engines
>>544377835It's not like unreal engine is better
Every stuido should code and make games on the Bethesda engine.
>>544377835is that boy or girl
>>544377835It was a cheap indie engine about ten years ago, with a lot of support. Easy to work with, and more flexible than Unreal, at the cost of being an enormous resource hog.Now the Unity company is demanding exorbitant royalties, as I understand it, so there's a broad movement to get away from it.
>>544377835>Lies of 17
>>544378752
>>544378594It's a doll
>>544377835Developing modern game engines is a fucking nightmare, and if you have the sort of devs who could do it, they're also capable of coaxing good performance out of Unity.
>>544379737If only every big studio wasn't laying off all their veterans who know how to do it
Looks like /ourguy/ is a ship's doctor, possibly on a cargo ship somewhere.
>>544380220>Razard is a sailor Why does someone that lame get to be a pirate.
kitsuneshapeshifter mythic abilityvivisectionist dipyea im gaming
>>544380421Sailor is almost like irl corsairYrliet would gush for him if she real
Razard x idira
If I get 100% armour pen in RT does that mean I ignore armour completely or is that a maximum number armour pen caps out at?
>>544380749You completely ignore armor and yes its as broken as it sounds
Outerworlds 2 is what starfield should have been
>>544380782
>>544376393>What do they use PF for in the ttrpg?First time I played RT, one of my mates used his PF roll during character creation to start the game with 50,000 las pistol-armed servo skulls. Other attempted rolls at the time included 1d3+2 suits of power armour, 1d3+2 space-capable gunships, 5d10+50 bolters and a fancy cybernetic eye with a laspistol built into it.
>>544378250It is better though, may have its own issues, but when compared to unity it definitely better.>>544379518an actual dollie>>544378679hope this means we'll see better performance on our shitty looking games
Yep, its going to be kinohttps://youtu.be/BfW01wY3F1Y?si=PvkxWx1dG_l9_rHF
>>544380782Wendy would be a lot hotter if her spider legs were functional.
>>544379737mayhap
>>544380956Sounds pretty good for a low-loot game.
>>544381181Am i kawaii uguu~
>5 CHA
Controversial opinion but I think rogue trader is a good game
>>544382002It didn't have enough trading of rogues
I can't explain it but I'm getting a bad feeling about Dark Heresy. It's going to be low effort shovelware. Very little info coming out, as if they're trying to hide it.
I'd swap Wenduag and JaeI think Weduag would enjoy running around the ship and the officers would find her interesting.Jae would be very successful in Golarion, and the threat level would be lower so she could relax a bit.
Pre-order bros...
>buying nubsidian slop
>>544381302It's a system that works really well with a good GM. Rather than boosting PF chasing loot from downed mooks you're going about strip-mining planets or carefully fencing religious relics to equally rich plutocrats.
Psyker should he a class not a origin.
>>544384570Scalding hot take
Crime Lord should be a class, not an origin.
Henerix van calox Class=psykerOrigin=noble
Jae von Efreet or whateverClass = grifterOrigin = princess
Yrliet LanayevyssClass: EldarOrigin: AutistThe Autist origin can be used with any class
>Cas' target auidence
Has owlcat given us any class and/or origin info yet? I thought the alpha was coming out soon they should have released that info by now.
Yirlet or Cassia?
>>544385403No, the marketing for thr game is shit
>>544385508Everyone here will say Cassia but she gives me a headache.
>>544381673An average badger has 6 CHA
Explain why New Vegas is supposedly good and why outerworlds 2 is supposedly bad.
>>544385737wendufags would fuck a badger if they saw one lmao
Reminder
YrlietClass = Public NuisanceOrigin = Ne'er-do-well
Bg3 isnt a real dnd game because you cant roll for stats.
>>544385785I'm not some rpg connoisseur or anything.But what I thought new vegas did very well was factions and interfaction dynamics. Also the fact that you're not forced to pick one and are locked into it from the getgo like tyranny.You can juggle and play different factions together, depending on the factions you can make piece with some of them, like the boomers and mr. house for example.Even though it was an unfinished mess, with much more content regarding factions, that you can clearly see the bedrock for it in game; it still did that asoect better than any other game ever. Obsidian themselves tried to do something similar with their subsequent games and failed once after another.I haven't played OW2 though so not saying new vegas is better. Just trying to explain what aspects of new vegas excelled so much that it's still unbeaten to this day.
>>544386185You can't roll for stats in the neverwinter knights games neither.Same thing for planescape torment.
Knights of the chalice 2 let's you roll for stata
>>544386073Yrliet and Wenduag are in this range.
>>544386489Stop shilling your garbage game
>>544386508Most of 4chan is in this range
>>544386508tfw 6 CHA irl
So do we have any info about toee steam edition?
Future Crpg waifu of the year contender.
We need a beauty stat like arcanum had separate from charisma. Since nurpgs made charisma more about personality.
>>544388705Beautiful people are trusted more than uggos, sorry, looklet.
>>544383678>Very little info coming out, as if they're trying to hide it.I still think they revealed it far too early just so there is a crpg announced before Expanse. They are scared shirtless of their crpg playerbase thinking they are abandoning them. So they announced DH first for this reason
>>544387912this thing is female?
>>544370295The reason it exists is to gate equipment in some way. It works to an extent
>>544383678We get the alpha in a month and a half that will clearly show how the game plays, looks etc.Wait till then to see if your retarded paranoia has any basis
>No Eldar female with an actual romancePeople will shitpost and the threads will be unusable because of no elf gf>There is an Eldar female with an actual romanceThe grimderp retards and Noldorfag will finally commit collective suicide. Threads will be unusable due to constant elf sex posting.>The hidden third option. There is a Male and female Eldar romance but only the male has an actual romance just like Rouge TraderThe schizo who said Owlcat has a hateboner against Elf love will have been proven right and these threads will never be useable again.Which will it be?
>Decided to replay RT because of the big patch>Didn't play Lex Imperialis previously>Went to the ship boarding mission right away before going any planets because apparently it's a companion recruitment mission, it can't be that hard>Fight with a sniper enemy felt somewhat challenging but nothing special>Final boss fight feels mathematically impossible at lvl 19 due to how much hp enemies have and how much damage they deal, even though I'm on basic difficulty (daring)>Look up some guide to see if i'm doing something wrong>There's a mention that Solomorne joins you at lvl 24 so don't forget to level him upI don't remember how the progression went before they reworked it, am I actually supposed to be 24+ at that point? 24+ will obviously rape that fight. Did I softlock myself by going there too early?
>>544392475try talking about anything but owlcrap shit
>>544392768Originally, Lex Mission started after you finished one planet. Lv 24 was the level they asumed you'd be close to. On reality, with Void shadows and doing optional/quests exploration, you'd likely have more after finishing a planet.Then, people that they do not get immediate access to Solomorne, so Owlcat made the mission available when you are done with footfall.So, you do the mission earlier than intended. And they have put a cap on levels for the first act. Thus, it can be hard with a non-optimized party (which is likely to happen if you slot Solomorne in yoru squad)
Hi I'm an incel chud. Which Owlcat romance is for me?
>>544395340Cassia so you can get a virtual taste of true romance
>>544377835any studio that doesn't have their own in-house engine is instantly second class
>>544384156>people can't handle a joke for a game all about excessive capitalism and consumerismYes we know people are very thin-skinned now and get offended by anything and news sites post shitty clickbait that idiots like you repost for free.
farm life with tau wife
>>544393739>you'd likely have more after finishing a planetPerhaps I don't grind/metagame enough, but me and my party were actually one level below Solomorne when we got him during the playthough I did after Lex Imperialis came outI assumed he's stop getting exp until everyone else caught up, but he just spent the entire game being higher level than everyone else
>>544396489Should probably also mention that I'm not the anon who went in to get Solomorne at lvl 19
>>544386073>tfw 16 CHA
>>544386073>Others as peopleMost of the population
7pm time in india, another hour or perhaps even starting now and the RT posts are done
Somebody cure my schizophrenia, many years ago when I was looking for a fallout 2 mod I remember seeing a fan made thing for Jagged Alliance 2 where the description and reviews has the Cleve insert Calvin basically becomes a secondary antagonist, he begins to send his own waves of troops at you, sorta like when you start taking over more of the island, Deadranna cutscene about more elites and there’s more guys that pop in, some other scripted stuff that I’m guessing rides on the Kingpin assassins, and there was a joke that Elliot is Calvin’s son. I have not been able to find this, it’s been ages, the people who made it very likely Russian, am I crazy and dreamt this or is there something similar to that? It had to not be that far in the past because there was the usual Cleve pic and there was a pop up of “don’t fuck with Calvin” and I feel like people making those jokes weren’t super far in past.
>>544380929why tf would yrliet even care
>>544400969She wouldn't. But gf's getting upset and having to choose is a thing other games have had, so RT has to do it too.
>>544400404I never heard of this mod. I have a similar experience though with another game, I believed Pool of Radiance (the 3e remake) had a dice-roll rebalance mod that is impossible to find today and I also wonder if I dreamed it. I might play PoR again if I did come across it since I remember the combat being ass otherwise.
The character of karlach is better written than the entirety of rogue trader
>>544402017there is nothing redeemable about bg3
>>544402017Guess I missed out by chopping her head off
yrliet but a sexpest
pic related and voss are the only two good characters in bg3
>>544384156They also give you a weapon that is decorated with the mascot in a tophat and stuff. It's pretty funny. Maybe there are some people out there that can't take a joke but most of what I've seen on it thought it was funny
>>544402473Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i come home this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid look on his face. What should i do about him? Ideas?
>>544402473Were you rushing or were you dragging
you guys have your own general for this shit
it's deader than the cuck general thoughbeit
>>544403184he did nothing wrong
maybe because you shitpost here to deliberately annoy people instead of keeping the right general alive
but check this 6
I'm on the hardest difficulty and combat is getting a bit tedious around level 9 or so. Enemies take 30-40 rounds while I die in 4-5, or if it's melee 2-3 hits. The player gets to run around and slide and sprint which means if it's only a handful of enemies in an open space you can keep sprinting/sliding and shoot someone as many times as you need to, but I'm in the vox relay facility where it's small hallways and computer rooms and there will often be 5+ guys in one fight. So patience doesn't win fights anymore, you have to kill quickly and my build isn't doing that. I've been upgrading my guns with mods and I've been using new weapons I find, and I have a few damage related perks including the one for allies damage, so I'm either going to temporarily lower the difficulty in this facility, or maybe I'll do some side quests and come back (but if the game is level scaled that won't help and I haven't checked whether it is yet).Combat is overall better than the first game and I haven't had a problem until now, it's just these small rooms and hallways don't allow the dodgy playstyle.
>>544405013>Enemies take 30-40 rounds while I die in 4-5, or if it's melee 2-3 hitsBeen hearing this a lot, surprising how punishing the combat seems to be
>>544405013not a crpg
How shittier will it get when all of the bg3 general schizos move here?
>>544405714that's why I go and bump /bgg/ sometimes
>>544405714it will restart general split/OP warring and be basically unusable probably
>>544405714it's shitty enough with that schizo obsessed with the namefag
What's the best animal companion for a ranger iin Wrath if I'm going 2h fighting?
>>544406404you'll only get more because he makes himself as obnoxious as possible in every thread until everyone recognizes his rambling schizoposts
>>544405714I won't mind it desu because it'll mean more discussion and a livelier general.This general was borne out of the dying owlcat games general and the goal was to broaded the topic to allow more people to post and save a dying general. It worked since we've been alive for years now. Still fairly owlcat centric but people still discuss other games like the anons playing solasta and shadowrun recently.You need to learn not to be offended when other people discuss something you don't like, it's called growing up.
>>544405714Was it bad when the owlcat general died?
>>544406615>You need to learn not to be offended when other people discuss something you don't like, it's called growing up.I was specifically talking about schizos and terminal shitposters, like the cuckfags hereI don't mind BG3 talk
>>544406589If your ranger isn't gonna be a viable tank then horse bulwark for tanking. If your ranger is a decent tanker and you just want more damage then any of the tripping pets like wolf for example.
>>544406623this is the shambling corpse of the owlcat general
>>544406745Cuckposting is a given at this point, would be very difficult to get rid of it when most posters are into dollie romance and cuck posting seems to trigger enough responses.
>>544406758Horse would mean I'd probably be better off riding it right? Not what I was hoping for but it might be easiest just to make the animal a tank then.
>>544406589whichever one you think is the coolestI like the boar, I named mine Mr Piggles. The elephant is cute as a baby but I don't like it as much when it gets big.
>>544406623This general didn't exist until the owlcat general died. It was monk poster that started this general, his content, reviews, and posts are still in the OP pasta.
>>544384156>>544402979>haha capitalismA millennial wrote this.
>>544406975Yeah you can ride it and enemies will attack if instead of you. This is why riding tanks is viable in wotr, enemies probably won't attack you until your mount dies, but if it's a tank it'll probably survive for a very long time.
>>544406975For side by side the raptor is pretty cool, it has the ability to maneuver around without proc'ing AoO which can be really nice. You can also ride it I guess if you're a little guy or use Reduce Person
I hate the Aurora fight so much.
>Company makes fun of you for throwing your money at them like a retard
>>544407273sorry but all predatory practices are justified if you use self-referential meta jokes in fourth wall breaks (uh, based devs much?!?)
>>544407220
>>544407142My low ac backliners(it'd be low even if I pop all the ac buffs on them) have pets unsure if it's not better anyways to just let the pets attack instead of ride
>>544408143Are you giving like one level of a pet class to everyone or something? That will not work out well for you, you know. The pets will be completely useless unless you keep leveling in the pet class.
>>544407273It works out in the end.
>>544408260No I'm playing with https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/animal-ally/So anyone can spend 2 feats to get a pet
>>544406404the namefag keeps posting outer worlds, you like this?
>get to Wintersun>start that quest with that old Shaman Dwarf>she always called be a bloody hunter>assume it's because I always slaughter the animals on my way to her cave>decide to cast Invisibility on everyone, use dimension door and avoid all the fights>expect a different dialogue>it's just the same thing, she still calls me a bloody hunter as if I had slaughtered everything on my way to her caveWelp, I guess it's my fault for expecting reactivity in an Owlturd game.
>>544408370Gg obsidian you won't be missed
>>544408143For back liners it wouldn't matter whether you rode the pet or not. I'd say maybe best not to ride since you cannkeep your back liners absafe diatance away and move the pets in to attack.But it should be noted, that for your ranger in melee range, you can both ride the pet and have it attack whilst you're mounted, it's not an either or situation, in melee range the pets will attack regardless of whether you ride them or not.
>>544408370Obsidian has been dying for years now, let it go to rest already.
>>544408978Larian would've done better
>>544405714I need more people I can radicalize to send vaguely threatening messages to Larian about why there was no Imoen fan service. Should've been Imoen frozen as a statue. Fucking bullshit.
>>544408370Should've made a real Planescape Torment 2 bozos, or actually did Van Buren for real
>>544410647Would you really want Imoen to spend her life as a frozen statue only to be unpetrify one day to find most of her friends and loved ones dead?
What's better between bounty hunter, archmilitant and master tactician for a dual pistol soldier build? My FEL score is shit.
imoen spent her life smooching her brother
>>544410894Hrmm on second thought yeah maybe not a good idea because act 3 is such a hodge podge rushed mess I wouldn't want to bother hearing about somebody I care about in the sorta mish mash whirlwind of that segment. I don't need the fan service
>>544408691Ahh, cheating, got it.
Looking good. Except, I didn't end the last mission with 8 knowledge... This game feels janky and unfinished, despite it being on a "finished" version. Arenas don't even work. How does that get through playtesting, much less 6 versions of it?
>>544408978>n-noooo you can't just expect devs to implement things like that>players might not see it!!!!- modern crpg shitdevs
>>544413046Homm5GAWD
>>544406615I don't like BG3, but I don't mind mature and honest discussion about it. But it wouldn't be that way, would it? If we're going to have immature shitposts I'd rather it be about more solid crpgs I do prefer, which I consider real crpgs and not cashgrabs by WotC to keep the ball rolling as the critical role and pandemic surge started to taper off and the normies began to shed out of playing ttrpgs.But sure, tell me more about how the general won't turn into endless Shart+Halsin screenshots, dommy-mommy simping for musclegirl tieflings and the debasement of githyanki into goonbait.
>>544413046This was Owlcat(Nival then) at their best unironically
>>544413359>>544413538Despite the jank, the campaign is extremely fun. Just gotten used to clicking once then using the move button so as to not misjudge movement with the giant ass cursor.
>>544413038>cheating in a single player game
why... why couldn't you be happy with just mewhy does it have to be this wayShaddy...
i look forward to dh being barebones as full voice acting and portrait spam for literally whos soaks up a lion's share of the budget
>>544414087Just fyi 5.5 as a mod kicks ass
>>544413414>bg3 is a cashgrablmao
>>544413038nta but is that not a vanilla feat? I haven't played owlcat pathfinder games without CotW or TTT in years but it's in both of my games.
>>544414182The portraits won't be anything, they just increase linearly with the number of characters.Voice acting is a much more tangled beast that fucks up other things, and imo, is a massive waste far beyond just the cost of paying the VAs.
Uh oh, the BG3 fangirls are menstruating
>>544414182Full VA is the worse part. Sawyer talked about it after Pillars 2 bombed.
Will Dark heresy outsell RT?
>>544414284Didn't you know, successful games are cashgrabs.
>>544414532The only silver lining to that is it may make Owlcat's writers learn some brevity.
>>544414182we'll get two paths and only one will have content
>>544414656But I think the paragraphs are funny
blindwildcat made some pregnant kibellah /34/.Need more of that.
>>544414656>LearnThey won't. They'll still have write meet the 250 word quota before offering you these response.>I see. Thank you.>I do not care what you think.>I do not like you, die! (Attack)
>>544414610To be fair, there are successful games that were cashgrabs.But also to be fair, baldur's gate 3 is most definitely not a cash grab. Whatever anyone hsd ever paid for it, they got their money's worth and more. Whether you like it or not doesn't matter, any just person can see that larian have genuinely put fourth their best into creating this game. They didn't charge you $80 for an alpha made in the bloated af unity engine that reuses the same stats, system, models, etc of their previous game.I say this as a huge owlcat fan and I would play any of their games 10 times over before I replay baldur's gate 3, but fair is fair, larian did an extremely good job.
>>544415245I've started taking the more antisocial attack dialogue options in recent playthroughs to see how much the games break.
>>544414182don't forget cutscenes
Looks like Obsidian did the thing again where melee attacks have canned animations in 3rd person that lock movement while you can still move at full speed while swinging in 1st.
>>544351118>next year lollmfao
>>544375424iranian
>>544416273>Replicating a problem TES had that modders already solvedCool
>>544408370>It works out in the end.That has nothing to do with their output or game quality, but entirely on Microsoft and Xbox mismanagement.Unless your games makes something approaching CoD levels of money you can get cut. This is how and why EA has functioned in their long line of +20 studios they have assassinated.
>>544416273based dabbing on third person freaks
rtfm
>>544351902
>>544416874rogue trader fucked me
>>544375424She's pajeet but the actress is one of the desert mud people.
>>544418082I know Efreet rhymes with pajeet but that's where the similarities end bro. She's a classic arab swindler.
>>544375424shes arab
>>544413414Low IQ take, we hate BG3 because there's no Githzerai to play as.
>>544418886I hate BG3 because they dared sully my wife.
>>544416531The thing is, they clearly put effort into the third person. Like I noticed my blade has some idle flourish animations that you can't see in first person.
>>544419437wasn't she a romance option in bg1/2?how does that work if she was already married
>>544419586he dies at the beginning of 2 and she hops on you as a rebound (as long as you aren't short)
>>544419586she's married to khalid, both are companions in bg1.by bg2 khalid dies and 5 minutes later she's jumping on gorion's ward's dick even though she's like the age of your mother.
>>544419586there was no romance in bg1 and the meme explains why she's an option in 2
6. (Evil) [Attack] I don't like you, die!
Aside from all the cuckoldry stretches you guys pull. Is there any romance in any game where your companion actually cheats on you mid romance? I don't mean mentioning their past or whatever, I mean actually have sex with someone else after your romance has already started.Also octavia doesn't count since they're clear about their degeneracy from the get go.
>>544420186I think Neera comes the closest by cucking you in-between BG1+2. There's radiant dialogue about Isabella in DA2 but when push comes to shove you can tell her no and she backs down.
>>544420186>Aside from your usual shitposting, will you shitpost about this other thing? I ask here because you guys are the shitposting expertstry talking about crpgs
>>544419758>there was no romance in bg1Safana openly flirts with Ajantis and Kivan.I know nobody ever takes a party that isn't comprised of Minsc, Edwin, Imoen, Jaheira and Xan but its technically there.
>>544420186Alistair in DAO but nobody involved actually wants to do it
>>544420515crpgs aren't a crpg
>>544420652Thanks mr. pedant but I was talking about the colloquial "romance" of which that anon was asking. You would have done better to point out Safana is SoD (where I would have then derided you for caring about beamnigger faggotry.)
>>544420186Furthest I can say is Morrigan I guess? But you permit that and it's not really "cheating". Alistair I suppose too if you went for the mistress route and he still needs to breed. Leliana too but that's a threesome. A lot of examples in DAO somehow, weird.
What would Khalid think of his wife's antics after he died?
>>544420186>mid romanceDoesn't Cam do that at brothels. Not mid romance but Jacob cheats on you in the gap between me2 and 3.
>>544420949He literally shows up in ghost form during the romance and gives you the okay. That's what starts the banging.
>>544420949She was already jumping on her surrogate son's dick while his body was cooling down, what do you think?
>>544420826I never played SoD, Safana is in the original BG1 and even returns for a BG2 quest.
>>544421018Lmfao you can't be serious
>>544420990Does cam even count
>>544420990As far as we know she's only been using their services so she can kill her father again and again.
will the ghost of the rt give marz permission to fuck yrliet after he dies?
>>544421070I know but in SoD they gave her a mini-romance thing. It sucked and like you said she shows up in 2 as an enemy so it doesn't really matter but it's there.>>544421103Probably the funniest part of the romance desu.
>>544420186
>>544420949Something something better part of valor.
>>544421018He returns from the afterlife due to the call of the cuck chair
>>544421141>exhibits unfeigned shock at the homunculus turning into her father with you presentcamellia's goldfish memory is lovely
>>544420186you guys say a stretch but never give your own definition which is probably similarly nebulousif you aren't married, it's not cucking, and almost no romances actually go that far
Is Siege of Dragonspear worth playing? I heard all kinds of things, like developers sneaking weird commentary in so I just skipped on it.
>>544420832>Alistair I suppose too if you went for the mistress routeThat's an optional route and only if your character isn't human, while if you want your PC and Alistair both to survive you HAVE to let him munch on swamp pussy. Femcels of yore had it rough lmao
>>544421708>post mentions cheating>it becomes cucking in your mindbravo
>>544421809no it's garbage and you'll start BG2 a bit too strong. if you're a completionist then fine but consider yourself warned.
>>544421708>Cullen>Alistair if human nobleI think that's about it
>>544421850it is cucking if you don't immediately murder the two offending parties
It's not technically cuckoldry if the girl you're seeing asks for the semen of your friends and strangers.
>>544422379I don't have any strangers, you all are my friends
>>544376878i do
>>544422225>woman cheats on you>desire for violence is aimed towards the third party and not the womanwhy are simps like this?
>>544422225t. oj simpson
>>544422570I said both didn't.>>544422578If the glove don't fit you must acquit. But it does so die mad lmao.
>>544422570keldorn moment
If men ever got the Jacob or Alistair situation they would go truly insane.
>>544422598he's not in love with karlach though
>>544422691They almost did when Ashley had a melty over your Cerberus involvement in game 2No one noticed because no one likes Ashley
>>544422691>According to a 2015 study out of Norway, women are more affected by emotional infidelity, while sexual infidelity affects men more.
>>544422691Jacob is hilarious but Alistair?>your waifu has to fuck another guy or you both die >:)Then we die? That's a fine ending.
Huh, you don't actually need to do all of the things for this achievement in one runI only saved the traveler from the vescavors during my first run, and on this third run ran into the scribe and the vrock after meeting them the first time
>>544423373doesn't sound like your choice in that scenario
>>544423838Who's would it be?
>>544423973The other guy of course
>>544424472He won't be making many decisions while dead.
>>544423973ours.the /crpgg/ council will vote if you are to be cucked.
If you dating Morrigan can you still make Alistair or Loghain impregnate her, instead of you?
>>544424626Malo mori quam foedari.
>>544420186Jacob Taylor is quick to abandon Shepard while she is under house arrest. He knew she was alive, he just couldn't wait so he found another woman. Meanwhile, every single other romance waits for you, and some even put their own stuff on hold to be available. I think this is probably the closest to actual unironic cheating, since he doesn't send a letter breaking up formally, he just says he has a new gf when you find him later in the third game.oh wait no, there's also Kaylio Djannis from swtor who invites other men on board your ship to have sex with them. That was actually pretty blatant. But she doesn't exactly hide it, so it's more like you have an open relationship, cheating implies at least some amount of secrecy.There's also Peebee, who tries to get you to cheat on your partner. She will come on to you, and if you're already in a relationship, she says it will be your little secret.There's also this in regards to Cam: >>544141909.The people mentioning Alistair and Morrigan are speedreaders who don't understand the situation. Neither of them cheat on you, and they only bang each other if YOU don't want to do it, and it's all up to you at all times. People are actually forgetting what the definition of cheating is due to the shitposting.
>>544424626why hold a council over a topic that is always answered "yes"
>>544424825You can suggest it and everyone involved is thoroughly disgusted by it. Not sure if you can follow through.
>>544424825I think she gets mad and breaks up with you, you don't really have a salient reason not to do so.
>>544425254Maybe if you are into that like /crpgg/ is
>if men had Jacob situation they would go insaneokay but men wouldn't go for femJacob???
>>544424985>There's also Peebee, who tries to get you to cheat on your partner. She will come on to you, and if you're already in a relationship, she says it will be your little secret.no shit? guess this shows how few people actually played andromeda.
>>544425363Black
>>544421809It has its moments and if you like IE gameplay you'll probably enjoy it. It's pretty linear, but it doesn't really pretend not to be. They stretch the engine in a few interesting ways here and there.The thing you've heard is like one line from a completely optional companion about being trans, that you have to actively ask about. That's literally all it takes for a certain type of person to completely flip their shit and open a rent-free vacancy in their head for years.The worst part is what anon said, you start BG2 a bit over-leveled. One solution is to instead use your import from the end of BG1. I think SoD's worth a playthrough at some point. I'd sooner replay it than the garbage that is ToB, honestly
>>544426125>preferring SoD to ToBIf it were within my power I'd see every faggot like you strung up. Unfortunately I have to content myself with waiting for your eventual suicides. My only wish is that it was quicker, so please, kill yourself as soon and as painfully as possible.
>>544426402Your mental illness isn't my problem or concern, sweaty
>>544426568And you should thank the Lord for it.
what does Legend of the Red Dragon have to do with anything
>>544426784nothing since it's not a crpg
>>544426125No, the worst part is that it doesn't fit the Bhaalspawn saga at all. BG1&2 are about CHARNAME, the realization of their heritage, the internal conflict, the self-realization, and the friends they made along the way. SoD is a detour where CHARNAME is upstaged by Caelar Argent, some kind of DMNPC who's much cooler and better than you and the story becomes about HER quest and HER character. It has nothing to do with BG1 or BG2, and it flanderizes Irenicus too. Complete garbage that only the faggots at Beamtrash could have thought of to try to shit on the legacy of beloved classics.
>>544426851>The first version of LORD only featured the chatting and flirting systems. Over time, Robinson incorporated features that he had seen work well in other games: for example, the restricted number of turns per day, and the concept of random events. Eventually LORD became a mixture of action and romance.it is though
Idira using her telepathy to make me eat her out while jae pegs me.
>>544427154Why would Solomorne do this?
>>544427140>Players select a character class, choosing from among Death Knight Skills, Mystical Skills, and Thieving Skills. While a player is training in a particular skill, s/he is subject to random events in the woods for that particular skill, which provide opportunities for advancement. Eventually, players may master all three skills.>Players can take a certain number of actions every day. Actions could be to fight monsters in the forest, attack other players or to attempt to slay the red dragon itself. In addition, every day a player can send a "flirt" to another player character which may range from a shy wink, to sex, to a marriage proposal. Sometimes this can be done more than once a day. Sex may result in contracting sexually transmitted diseases, and female characters might become pregnant>Male players can also flirt with Violet, and female players with Seth Able (named after Robinson[2]), in a fashion similar to flirting with other players. Success is based on the player's charm points. A marriage to Violet or Seth may last one day or two months or more; unlike player-player marriages, the software may terminate these bonds at any time. During marriage, offspring are possible for male players, and more likely for female players. Offspring bring sometimes surprising benefits to warriors.
4chan should have door games, I would beat your asses in Trade Wars
wtf is happening
>>544348803>Early accessOoooooffff lol
>>544429168Two great reasons to play the game
Find a flaw.
>>544429467You can't smooch your mother
>>544424985>swtorDS Jaesa looks for random men every time you stop at a planet, according to one of her dialogues.
I just dreamt of Camellia. We were on a boat and she was hiding from me while this was playing. Really strange.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKKcz5sjSY
>>544429467towards the end, it feels like they disregard any number of character motivations the pc may have to force them onto one of the three ending paths
>>544420186The closest thing to actual definition of cuckoldry AND the memes people post about is the Safana Siege of Dragonspear 'romance' conclusion. Progressives have weird ideas of how to write a strong independent woman who needs no man
>>544429467I haven't played yet
>>544426981What does Flanderize mean? Is it from the Simpsons?
What generation is the phyre? Telekinesis puts him at 5 or 6th right?
>>544430516Basically diminishing a character to a few notable traits, or even just one.
>>544429168Damn I miss these old Bioware/Black Isle portraits. Not just the sexy ones, the artists knew how to make characters look heroic, cool or hot.
>>544430516it's like how Minsc became even more retarded after BG1
>>544430928>>544430720Like turning them one dimensional?
>>544430983Yeah, that.
>>544430983i know it's a meme image but this kind of works
Has there ever been a female knight character in a CRPG that wasn't insufferable?
>>544431164>>544431228Everything is clear
looking back now jaheria is the only original romance partner that somehow managed to win after BG3 canon shitshow
>>544431493honorary crpg
>>544431619BG3 isn't canon to the Bhaalspawn saga. But BG1 and 2 are not canon to Forgotten Realms lore. The one shitty novel unfortunately might be but I think it may have been mercifully retconned.
>>544431493Mhairi from Awaekening
>>544431667I'll allow the goatfu
>>544431493Is Final Fantasy Tactics a crpg? If so, Agrias.If not, then Bastila.
>>544431493Why is she pursing her lips like that? She looks like she's trying to make quacking noises.
>>544431747the only important canon is my head canon
>>544431493We don't really have a lot of examples do we?>Cassandra>Seelah>PalleginaI guess Cassandra isn't insufferable, she's just doing her job and grumbling when someone is being retarded.
HOT TAKE!!I dont think owlcat understands game balance on any level, not just combat.
>>544431897>Bastilalol, lmao evenher entire arc is written around acting like a petulant child
Is this website crashing? Why is posting slow as fuck now?
>>544431493Why do you hate Joan of Arcs
>>544431493>CRPGNo>RPGYesMommy Maeve Mogs all these try hard female knight sluts
>>544419726
>>544432106don't think that take is as hot as you might think
>>544432128CHICKEN JOCKEY
>>544432106This is not a hot take.>>544432128Thought it was just me lol.
Think he's got two dicks?
>>544431493whfb rpg whenhttps://youtu.be/b3BQs9NWzXo
cloudflare spazzing out?
>>544432290He should have been a companion but owlcat is a bunch of hacks.
>>544419726No, she's the same age range as CHARNAME. She's 21-22. Also, she is very resistant to the idea of romancing CHARNAME and her romance is as a result much longer than the other two in the game as she has to work through her grief over Khalid before she can move on to her new love. I swear none of you people actually play the games you comment on.
>>544432078Pallegina is one of the most annoying with some of the worst sidequests
>>544431897fuck off with the dark side bitching only to fall herself>>544432078those are all obnoxious though? especially bird bitch
>>544432558>She's 21-22NahShe would be in the human equivalent of mid thirties
>>544432976The game flat out gives her birthday. She's 21-22. >>544432378Imagine a CRPG where you start out as a Questing Knight and go through the entire saga to eventually become a Grail Knight. It would be amazing.
>>544432558She traveled with Gorion dude. She's like 60 in BG1 at least.
>>544431619You can’t blame bg3 for wotc making Abdel Adrian canon
10.6gig update on steam. I don't see some of the issues I've had listedhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1449110/view/532113165768461347?l=english
>>544431493Mazzy Fentan might count.
>>544432378>>544433145Even though i love WHF i dread having a game about it because ratniggers only need the tiniest reason to infest a thread
>>544433367I still remember that fucker who posted actual pics of rats
>>544433340>10.6 gb Day 1 updateHoly fuark
>>544433207She says she was born during the Ten Black Days Of Eleint. That was in 1347 DR. Baldurs Gate starts in 1368 DR. She's 21-22. The fact she traveled with Gorion at one point does not make her the same age he was.
>>544433145>eventually become a Grail KnightOnly if the Lady of the Lake is romanceable. Or some stand in elf, whatever.
>>544433491>The fact she traveled with Gorion at one point does not make her the same age he was.Gorion has been raising you in Candlekeep. When the fuck do you think they traveled together?
>>544433530Wasn't the lady an Elf?
>>544433571Now wait until you consider that charname could be an elf
>>544433625Yeah, but that's a trick pulled on the entire kingdom of Brettonia, they all actually worship an elf.
>>544432227she is not a knight
>>544433625yes, and when the bretonnians discover the deception, they decide to genocide the wood elves
>People are now realizing that the timelines don't make senseOops?
>>544433729Mine was a half elf but they all mature to physical adulthood at the same rate as humans. Ergo Gorion has been busy for ~18 years. So again, when do you think they all became traveling buddies? Khalid and Jaheira were already married when they traveled with Gorion iirc.
>>544433491>She says she was born during the Ten Black Days Of Eleint.No, she was a child during that event. Her family was attacked and killed and she had to flee. So add 8-10 years or whatever age you headcanon "child" to mean. She would be roughly 30 during BG1-2. The age gap wasn't 20 years as that anon lied about, but it was probably close to 10 years.
>>544433882BASED
>>544433906It’s always fun watching canon autists argue about this stuff without realizing that the actual devs were just not thinking about this shit
>>544433747>>544433882
>>544432490yeah captcha shit isn't working
>>544433340who asked for this ??
>get btfo>i-i-it doesn't matter anyway...many such cases
>>544433571It's noted that Gorion left Candlekeep all the time, he wasn't there watching you 24/7. The only people locked up in Candlekeep the entire time were CHARNAME and Imoen.
>>544434190little leaf being the lady predates end times however
>>544422598>Obviously in love with KarlachWait, what?
>>544433882I sincerely doubt that since many great Bretonnian Knights discovered the truth and kept serving her anyway. >>544433939She says she was too young to understand what was going on, she was 3-5 years old at most, if not younger.
>>544434548no it's not
>>544434636>reads greentext>wow is it true chat?
i wish i was locked up with imoen...
>>544433882How'd they pull that off? Without their lady-given super powers, they're just backwards medieval retards.
>>544434761>half-elfall he did was add more terrible women to the world
>>544434880Yes, it is. The entire reason Imoen shows up at Candlekeep is because Gorion and his fellow Harpers raided a cultist base where they were ritually sacrificing dozens of Bhaalspawn children. Imoen was the only survivor. Tethtoril also talks about Gorion leaving you in the care of the Monks when he left on travels/adventures. Play the game and actually read the dialogue next time.
>>544434902It was meant to be incredulous. Thinking he was in love with Karlach is the equivalent of thinking your neighbor is in love with you because they helped you out a few times and showed some concern when they heard you were in the hospital.
>>544435132Half-Elves are cute and based. Nothing wrong with fathering the Numenoreans, my man.
>>54443393925-30 years old is a realitic age. She's a half-elf so she doesn't age like humans either.So not a big age gap at all.
>>544435378gwerm hands typed this post
>>544435039i only know about the end times through vermintide but i'm guessing it's because there's one trillion brettonian peasants + knights and spellcasting ladies vs a couple thousand wutelgi
>>544433145>Imagine a CRPG where you start out as a Questing Knight and go through the entire saga to eventually become a Grail Knight. It would be amazing.The game is made by owlkek and you become the grail knight after finishing tutorial. Did you rike it?
In my personal canon Jaheria is even older because that's hotter
>>544431493Aveline, Cassandra
Oath of Rape
>>544435553You become a questing knight at the end of act 1 after starting as squire and become a grail knight by midgame
>>544432227Based Maevenjoyer. That game was the best witcher game and we deserved more like that. The Good Book says so
is CHARNAME the last 20 yo to become a demi-god/godhad he been 3 years younger, he'd have been some JRPG protag
>>544436001Ummm in canon he gave up godhood actually...
>>544435886Uh, sir, this is an owlshart game? We don't take kindly to the slow devlopment of the hero's journey here
>>544436129This is pretty much the process of Kingmaker.Adventures->Baron->King
>>544436001WOTR can put you in any age you want but I suppose Areelu's nonsense disqualifies him for that. OS2 allows you to be come godlike of sorts, Lohse is definitely above 20 and she can get her own unique ending.
>I want to be a huge fucking loser for as long as possiblechecks out for the average 4channeler
>>544435525I heard once that Vermintide retconned the End Times but I don't understand why or how.
Watched the solasta 2 stream the main take aways are>you can actually wander around the world map now and even find completely random optinal stuff to explore, also the random encounters aren't level scaled just like the last game so you can just run into some unwinable encounter and die if you wander to far to early>they added in alot more original spells>crafting system seems slightly improved but pretty much the same>the day and night cycle is way better now
>>544436001>kills off high level shit like demons and dragons by the horde>final battle is against a god>party has a childhood friend>romances elf girlshe already qualifies for JRPG protagonist of the isekai variety
>>544427154...
>>544437073Abelard could solo Amelyssan + the Five
>AmelyssanAll i can think of now is how beat they made her look in bg3.
>>544436918>>party has a childhood friend>>romances elf girlsEven in my wrpgs the childhood friend can't win...
>>544435553You know that actually would be what they would do, wouldn't it? I thought it was just an Owlcat problem but it seems to be a CRPG problem in general these days, look at Larians characters, they're all insanely powerful donutsteel OCs with the feats and accomplishments of legendary level characters, yet they're "level 1". It's like modern day CRPG developers can't fathom letting the player work their way up to power and prestige rather than starting with it.
>>544400969She says something like >I didn't think you were interested in such crude carnal pursuits, Elantach
>>544437698BG3 references to the previous saga should be utterly and completely discarded, it's blatantly obvious how phoned in and forced they are, Larian obviously didn't want to bother with it but were contractually obligated to do so by WotC. Larian should've just made their own Forgotten Realms game, BG3 is a fun game but it has absolutely nothing to do with BG1-2 at all, even with old party members forcibly inserted into it. The Bhaalspawn saga was finished and complete by Throne Of Bhaal, a sequel was never going to work in the first place. But WotC wanted name and brand recognition so, yeah.
>>544438197She says she doesn't care about your other relationships earlier in the meditations tho.
>>544438151What game avoids this? You can't name any since they're all actually super special
>>544438486Let's not pretend Larian didn't revel in getting to attach their name to one of their progenitors. The problem has always been that they didn't treat it with due respect.
>>544438151my dude in km was just some innawoods fighter who got paid for killing bandits
>>544438514Sounds like some CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT as her feelings for you grow The time she said she didn't care was very early
>>544438540Solasta your part is all mercs and just gets lucky and finds the super magic crown and it originally wasn't supposed to go to you.
>>544438540Fallout 1-2. Dragon Age: Origins.Both Shadowrun games, Dragonfall and Hong Kong.VtMB.Arguably Mass Effect 1, Shepard is a renowned veteran but he is not given special status or powers until the mid game once he becomes a Spectre. Neverwinter Nights campaign has you start as an academy graduate.I'm sure there's more, too. The "you are super powerful and important both narratively and intrinsically" being the flat standard really is a recent phenomenon in CRPGs.
>>544438817>I didn't think you were interested in such crude carnal pursuits, ElantachThis implies she doesn't know when she absolutely does.
>>544438486>get a friend that played and liked BG3 to play the older games>he gets pissed off about how Sarevok and Charname got retconnedthat said he also admitted he hated BG1 and loved ToB
>>544438804It's really ironic that Kingmaker, where you go from random adventurer to ruler of an entire realm, is significantly more grounded and levelheaded than the two games Owlcat made after it as far as power scaling goes. At least there was SOME kind of journey in Kingmaker, in Wrath and RT you are the center of the universe from the get go.
>>544438151It's really just Larian and Wrath that do this. Larian's issue is their obsession with putting their OCs as playable characters.
>>544438989>DAOLeliana is an experienced bard. Morrigan is a mini witch of the woods. Wynne is an old mage. The Qunari guy I forgot is a high level soldier. Zevran is part of a famed guild of assassins. They all start at the same level as you are. Only Alistair is arguably the same tier as you.Also I'm pretty sure that while not confirmed in game, you are fairly special in VTMB, what with being able to rank up as fast as you did.
>>544439068Throne Of Bhaal gets too much undue criticism, there's only so much you can do with high level D&D and it was solid narratively, and a fine ending to the saga. The real problem it had was following BG2, nothing was going to match up to that just off of scale and Irenicus, who is probably the best villain ever made in a CRPG. Amelyssan was never going to be what he was.
>>544439569>Amelyssan was never going to be what he was.Didn't have to be. The other Bhaalspawn were just a prop for the climax of your moral dilemma. You were already the top dog of the Sword Coast by that point. I agree ToB hate is stupid.
>>544439240Rogue Trader is even more ridiculous than Wrath though. >>544439241Compare all of the things you just said about the DAO companions and think about BG3 companions and what they are. Can you see the difference?
>>544439763That's not the point, the point here is that super special people being put up as level 1 is a disease that pretty much every RPG has.
>>544439763Rogue trader is supposed to be ridiculous.
>>544439763>Rogue Trader is even more ridiculous than Wrath though.Hardly. Heinrix is a stooge, Yrliet is an outcast, Argenta has no place or purpose, etc. Meanwhile (You) become one of the most important people in the Koronus Expanse overnight.
There's a weird lady in a red dress saying she's my mother and that she wants to give me superpowers.Can't wait to see what that's about. See you later anons.
>>544439934>Argenta has no place or purposeTrue. Weird character.
>>544440086I meant her story but yeah that too.
>>544439849Yeah they should give us pre-built characters that adhere to the world, it only makes sen-
>>544439934>>544440086Argenta is some tagalong that has her own super special sidequest. She's technically responsible for kickstarting your plot as well.
>>544439849No it isn't. There have been multiple examples already listed where that isn't the case.
>>544440157>build reflects backgroundthis is good, it's the casual retraining shit that sticks out like a sore thumba bad system wouldn't allow this build to work
>>544440304I didn't comment on the others because I haven't played them, but the fact that DAO is listed even though it's very much guilty of it is telling.
>>544440276>Argenta is some tagalong that has her own super special sidequest. Yeah but even that is just a pitstop at the end.>She's technically responsible for kickstarting your plot as well.Being a plot device isn't really a character trait or point of in-world renown.
>>544440412>but I LIKE playing fishing pole wizard
Do I need to kill Incendia for the daredevil pistol?
>>544439934Heinrix is one of the most powerful people in the Expanse, the fact that he's not Calcazar does not mean he is not incredibly powerful and important. Yrliet is trash tier, yeah. Argenta is a SoB with her own super special quest and she's so powerful that she easily blammed your predecessor, unsurprising considering she can kill the final boss of the game in a single burst fire in the release version of the game. Argenta is in fact so powerful that she destroyed Owlcats last balance patch by forcing them to make Priest absolute bullshit so she can now do the same thing she used to do on release. Easily the most powerful RT companion.
>>544440465It's not guilty of it, though. Your companions in DAO are competent and capable, but they are not super special unique snowflakes with incredible histories and feats to their name. Again, just compare the DAO companions to the BG3 companions and the difference should be quite clear.
>>544439934Jimmy is in line to becoming a Inquisitor not a stooge. Theres a ending where he enjoys pushing you around.
>>544440698>Heinrix is one of the most powerful people in the Expanse, the fact that he's not Calcazar does not mean he is not incredibly powerful and importantHeinrix literally doesn't know shit about what's going on. His only purpose is to spy on your ship but he doesn't have a fraction of the larger scope nor does he really command more than pencil pushers.
>>544439062At the end of Return of the Archwizards (throwback to a few threads ago when an anon asked for Forgotten Realms novels) the protagonist ends up with two girlfriends, a fellow elf that was bonded to him to be his wife since childhood and a vaasan warrioress he romanced during the story.Stories for teenage boys and lonely men where they end up with two wives or a harem are considered cringeworthy even in past generations but media isn't produced to be YA male romance anymore like it used to be in my above example, so you end up with backwards logic like this where Yrliet simultaneously becomes jealous at the RT's warranted carnal pursuits but also indifferent to them in other scenes where a narrative director didn't waggle her finger to make sure they're not promoting anything remotely mysoginistic.
>>544440897>Theres a ending where he enjoys pushing you around.Its just shit writing desu. If anything Calcazar would name you as a successor give how you end up being boys.
The problem isn't that Larian's games or w/e has some special snowflake, but most of the companions. It comes across as silly and absurd, especially when the protag is some bumfuck nobody and gets no special background building elements like the origin ones get.It makes it clear that Larian's focus isn't on your own player created character, but on the origin characters they made and they think you should play.I'm not even sure if they're delusional or not, because they treat their character creation system as really powerful when it's super basic compared to many other games. When even Veilguard does laps around your character creation, you really shouldn't be bragging about how "good" yours are.
>>544440928He's an Inquisitor, he is by definition one of the most powerful people in the Expanse. Yes, he's not in the know on all of Calcazars plans, but that does not make him weak or unaccomplished. Outside of you and the other Rogue Traders and his boss, he's the most prominent member of the Imperium in the expanse. And that includes Ulfar and the other Space Wolves.
>>544440698>Heinrix is one of the most powerful people in the ExpanseHe's one of many minor lapdogs. Without the Rogue Trader he would be irrelevant.
>>544441262You would think with all the metadata that they get now that they would get the memo, all of the Origins in BG3 combined are a fraction of the Tav playthroughs.
>>544441161>At the end of Return of the Archwizards (throwback to a few threads ago when an anon asked for Forgotten Realms novels) the protagonist ends up with two girlfriends, a fellow elf that was bonded to him to be his wife since childhood and a vaasan warrioress he romanced during the story.That was actually me so thanks lol. Will look into this one too since that's kino.>Stories for teenage boys and lonely men where they end up with two wives or a harem are considered cringeworthy even in past generations but media isn't produced to be YA male romance anymore like it used to be in my above example, so you end up with backwards logic like this where Yrliet simultaneously becomes jealous at the RT's warranted carnal pursuits but also indifferent to them in other scenes where a narrative director didn't waggle her finger to make sure they're not promoting anything remotely mysoginistic.That's one take. There's also the multiple writers theory. I don't really care which it is, it's a hole in her story. They could have just made her shrug while the other girls had the cat fight.
>>544441371>Outside of you and the other Rogue Traders and his boss, he's the most prominent member of the Imperium in the expanse. And that includes Ulfar and the other Space Wolves.De jure? Sure. De facto? lol. lmao even.
>>544441508No, he isn't. You don't seem to grasp what Heinrix is or how powerful he is. The fact he has a superior he reports to does not diminish that.
Jimmy and Cassia are richer than you
>>544441702he literally cannot even do the tasks he was given without leaning on you like a crutch
>>544441702Anon, remind me again how his personal sidequest ends and who you meet.Then remind me of how many lapdogs are running around.Then once again remind me where on the totem pole Heinrix sits in terms of the Inquisition in the Expanse.Then remind me of what he could actually get done without the Rogue Trader.He's a lapdog spy that happens to monitor you, nothing more. Trying to overblow his importance and power is comical, especially in the Expanse where the imperium has less sway.
>>544441535Why would they make games how they want to make them instead of just bending to what's popularDon't they know that popular = goodSALES CHARTSCHARTS
>>544440883>super special unique snowflakes with incredible histories and feats to their nameThis only really applies to Gale. Karlach is reasonably special, but only because of her engine, which is now killing her. Astarion was a fucking slave who was on a rat diet. Shadowheart is some nobody cultist who was sent on a suicide mission. Lae'zel is literally just an above average gith with no special history. Who are these special snowflakes you speak of?
>>544442170the fact that you do not thank tieflings, flamboyant vampires, and gith are snowflakes to begin with just by being present shows you just how badly Larian fucked the entire setting
>>544442006If you weren't around he would've found another way to get things done, the fact you are his taxi service does not make you special.>>544442060Calcazars retinue is actually pretty small, aside from Heinrix there are only 3 other major operatives, all of whom are dead by the end of the game. And he could accomplish most of what he does aside from confronting Calcazar just fine without you, all you did was transport him.
>>544442067>Why would they make games how they want to make them instead of just bending to what's popularImagine going to a tattoo parlor to get a tattoo but you weren't allowed to use any custom designs, only select from 6 different designs the tattoo parlor made themselves.
>>544442330You're right, every companion should have been like Bob the level 1 fighter you recruit in a tavern and Alice the level 1 rogue who tries to pickpocket you. Anything more special than that is just Larian trademark over-the-top nonsense.
>>544442392>And he could accomplish most of what he does aside from confronting Calcazar just fine without youlmao
>>544442392he doesn't thoughif you don't carry him he'd probably just get tossed into that big ass flesh-computer after he stood around ummming and ahhhing because he didn't have a taxi driver around to give him a morality green light
>>544442639Yes, completely unironically. Throw in like one of those 'rare' characters per game, don't cram the entire party full of them or else you end up with people like you that don't bat an eyelid at throwing everything but the kitchen sink at you
So people dislike DH cover because it has no waifus nor caters to their fetishes?
Is confident approach worth using on current arch militant? Halved crit multi instead of it just being scaled down in proportion to crit chance seems very bad.
>>544442639You're trying to downplay companions so bloated they eat into the protag getting almost no options and them needing to severely cut down on total companion numbers, push them to later acts or just gut them like Minthara.Their games would be much better off with less hero syndrome companions that are also origins.Their ego extends so far that it reaches the Hirelings, which aren't allowed to be custom and have to have fixed races, genders, limited voices and shit.It's just straight up bad RPG design.
>>544442418Imagine going to a tattoo parlour to get a tattoo and you were allowed to select from 6 different designs the tattoo parlor made themselves or use a custom design. Oh wait that's how it does work.
>>544442946Yes. Problem?
>>544441543>They could have just made her shrug while the other girls had the cat fight.Or they could have hidden a TRVE romance ending behind you voluntarily choosing not to romance any other girls. So that she doesn't actively mind if you do, but it goes differently if you don't
>>544442170Karlach is a storied veteran of the Blood Wars and one of Zariels most prized fighters, which means she is bare minimum mid teens level. Astarion was his masters top operative and he went around killing all of his enemies for him, some of whom were quite powerful. Shadowheart is literally getting fought over by the two most powerful deities in the setting to gain her as a Chosen. Lae'zel is normal, for a Githyanki, but a Githyanki even being in the Forgotten Realms to begin with makes her notable and special. Oh, and although you forgot him, Wyll is the son of the most prestigious and powerful Grand Duke of Baldurs Gate, and a renowned hero throughout the entire Sword Coast, who in his own words "took down Hill Giants without breaking a sweat". Yeah, totally not over the top super special characters, at all. Give me a break man.
>>544442946I don't like it because they're just standing there, there's no energy.And they look like they've all been photoshopped in
>>544443020That wouldn't change anything at all though? That scene would still play and it would still be stupid. All that would do is give Yrlietfags more suffering. I approve but don't really see the point.
>>544440698>Heinrix is one of the most powerful people in the ExpanseNot yet, but he can be in the future.
>>544442639>You're right, every companion should have been like Bob the level 1 fighter you recruit in a tavern and Alice the level 1 rogue who tries to pickpocket you. Anything more special than that is just Larian trademark over-the-top nonsense.One of the most popular companions in Mass Effect and as a whole is Garrus which is a dropout local cop. You don't need some hyper special background, what you need is for the characters themselves to be likeable/interesting and well written in their interations in the actual game.
>>544442915>Throw in like one of those 'rare' characters per gameThat would be Gale. Of the six main companions in you first meet, he's the only special snowflake. You can't get more not-special than Lae'zel, beyond changing her race.
>>544442645>>544442713I get that you have Owlcat center of the universe protagonist drilled into your brains, and therefore think no one but your character has agency and power, but no, an Inquisitor does not need a Rogue Traders help to get his job done, since he can requisition just about anything he needs to do so with or without the aid of said Rogue Trader, which combined with his own extensive talents is more than enough to get almost anything done. Inquisitors are some of the most powerful operatives in the Imperium, if they were as cripplingly incompetent as you seem to think they are, they would be a joke and not the Emperors most feared and powerful agents.
Will grognards ever recover from a crpg being financially successful and popular?
>>544441371You're exaggerating. Interrogators aren't that powerful. They are important enough to be able to get away with some stuff but still have to toe the line. Unlike Calcazar who just pushes everyone around the way he sees fit
>>544443239I meant take out the Yrliet jealousy scene Have her find the car fighting amusing but stay aloof, and allow you to "romance" her along with one other and that gives an ok ending where you have both BUT if you choose to dump all the smelly mon-keigh girls and keep only Yrliet, you get a secret, better ending for just her
>>544442994Yeah, I don't get what Larians problem is. Their games are entirely carried by their excellent combat systems, great encounter design and free form approach to how you can approach the world, which definitely makes them worth playing, but their games would be so much better if they could improve in the narrative department.
>>544442713The fact that you admit that you're his pesonal taxi driver while still claiming that he's unimportant is amusing
>>544443554he's not an Inquisitor he's some Acolyte (see: mook)>>544443861I'm mocking you goofball
>>544442946Pretty much
>>544443006Except it doesn't in BG3's case. Player character options are flat out worse and less supported than in fucking shit like Deadfire. They sacrificed player reactivity, control and customization in favor of propping up their origins.In Deadfire you frequently get reactivity based on background, race, gods, class, prior actions, abilities, stats and more.Meanwhile in BG3 you can once in a blue moon see some shit like [FIGHTER] or keep going back to the same D20 checks everyone, including the origins, can do like [Illithid] or [persuasion].I've never felt more boned playing a custom PC than in BG3. The one saving grace is Dark Urge, which is infintely better than making their main companions into origins.
>>544443356love this bird nigga like you wouldn't believe
Custom PC characters were a mistake
>>544443554Anon, Heinrix is a speck compared to a Rogue Trader. The RT owns multiple planets, multiple ships, has effectively infinite resources, a metric fuckton of people under their command and more.Without the RT would've achieved fuck all and would most likely be dead in a gutter during the events of the game.
Starfinder Afterlight will now be fully voiced. It seems like all frogs are going for this after BG3. The last stretch goal is most likely not going to be met with a week left
>>544444543>additional class is after full VAthose priorities are fucked
>>544443356This is a funny reply, because if you go back in the quote chain, then according to previous logic, Garrus is already super special and a snowflake by virtue of not being human. If Lae'zel should have been Lizzie the human fighter then Garrus should have been Garry the human dropout local cop.
>>544444543Nobody cares
>>544444543begging you to buy an ad
>>544444093>In Deadfire you frequently get reactivity based on background, race, gods, class, prior actions, abilities, stats and more.Bullshit, don't have a stake with BG3 but they were extremely sparse in Deadfire. Pretty sure the wiki lists down the amount and I don't think any of them even reaches the 100 mark for the race in a 50+ hour game.
>>544444682Anon seeing gith is like a once in several generations thing for most in the forgotten realms. Tieflings are demonspawn. They should be scarce and make themselves even scarcer. Neither of these compare to Turians, the galaxies main police force in ME.
>>544443976> i was merely pretending to be retarded
>spent 500 grand to get Mephistopheles' true name>fight his bitch ass anyway for the challengeWish there was an option to fight him THEN use his true name. Nathyrra was cute, here's the portrait i used for her since the original was ass.
>>544444957>Tieflings are demonspawn. They should be scarce and make themselves even scarcer. Not in 5E. Larian is not to blame for this one.
Sorry but we can't have cool companions any more because they make me feel emasculated.
>>544445075Pathfinder too but they're still not half as ubiquitous as Turians in ME.
>>544444992do you normally leave major decisions in your life up to the whims of taxi drivers
>>544444543No offense Mr.Shill but that looks like furry fetish shit
>>544444682>Garrus is already super special and a snowflake by virtue of not being humanNot at all. In the setting of Mass Effect turians are one of the most wide-spread aliens races (read: normal), especially on the Citadel and areas the game takes place in. Kind of like an elf in D&D, except turians are more numerous and normal.Meanwhile a Githyanki is not normal on the plane BG3 takes place in. They're extremely rare and any you see would belong to a raiding party with a specific purpose.
>>544445154The RT is a very special taxi driver. Like the guy in VtMB
>>544444912>Bullshit, don't have a stake with BG3 but they were extremely sparse in Deadfire.They weren't super common in Deadfire, but that's the point. BG3 has borderline nothing and Deadfire looks reactivity rich in comparisong to things like backgrounds and shit. THAT is how bad that is in BG3, because Larian puts almost no focus on it because they have a boner for their own OC origins.
>>544439062She didn't mean THAT kind of intimacy She thought you were trying to understand Kibellah's soul or something She even said this when you met Kibellah's ghost
>>544445370>Like the guy in VtMBthat would be like Big E flying you around in your personal shuttle
>>544445089When Gaybore tells me he's a professional.
>>544445625I don't know about you but The Emperor is with me. Always.
Fuck up companionsLoser companionsUnemployed companionsUnprofessional companions
>>544445696>pay him well>show him you're not retarded>treats you like a professional toothe little man gets too much hate. he was pretty based he just wasn't as flamboyant as the rest.>>544445872Anomen
>>544445872/crpgg/ the crpg when?
>>544445625He is flying you around your personal shuttle, he's just stuck in the GPS system.
>>544445872Sarevok is all those things lmao
>>544445872This is technically Minsc.
>>544445154When I'm hesitant about something (which is what he is about the whole deal) I often find that talking about it with other people helps, doesn't matter who they are.
>people in this general are so far gone they want to fuck their sisterSickos. I bet you install the Imoen romance mod and enjoy it.
>>544445872wenduag
>>544446462No because it sucks.
>>544446462childhood friend deserves to win
>>544446640It's better nowThey overhauled it
>>544446710I was talking about the nu version. At least the rape one was comically bad now it's just the worst type of anime shit.
>>544446462I've never had Imoen in my party because I always use Jan.
>>544445309And what's wrong with featuring a companion of an unusual race? We might never get another githyanki in another D&D game. It's a one-and-done. Just because it's a race that doesn't normally interact with those of Toril doesn't make Lae'zel special. Planescape: Torment had some of the weirdest companions ever, including a talking skull, a githzerai, a burning man, a succubus, a modron, a living suit of armor. Sure Planescape is much weirder than the Material Plane but the point is that it's fucking fantasy. We should expect and embrace unusual races instead of expecting Game of Thrones but with more elves and magic.
>>544446710actually it's bad because you can't knock her up and because it's tailored to female PCs
>>544446710there should be more instances of vidya rape, not less
>>544446901Sigil is in the right area for all those types to chill. The Sword Coast is not.
CRPG but all your companions are just townspeople. They die on the very first quest.
>>544447064These are fictional places Why must we have derivative fiction, instead of something new?
>>544445957>I'm going in>Terrible stats at anything other than flanking>Low reach for a flanker for being a dwarfPaying for this
>>544447195An OSR style funnel? Survivors set the story?
>>544446901i didn't realize psycho mantis made an appearance
>>544447064Next you'll tell me mind flayers and elder brains are not your usual antagonists in D&D. It's all so over-the-top and we should have killed a goblin king and ended the campaign at level 5.
CRPG where your companions are the living former presidents of the United States Your enemy is Lich Reagan
>>544447438He charges like what? 10 grand? Pretty sure I could elect to purchase an entire army of Hellknights with that money.
>>544446838Jan is better if you do throne, imoen is better if you don't
>>544446901>And what's wrong with featuring a companion of an unusual race?As previously stated, it's not that there is one or two snowflakes in bg3, but all origins are and overshadow the protag by a mile.You posted Planescape and the Nameless One is extremely abnormal and special than any of the companions. Planescape/Sigil is also a setting that is intentionally strange and not normal, while BG3 and Faerun is not.And again, the main issue is that Larian is so focused on making their origins so special and making them playable with much better reactivity support than anything the player can make. This extends to basic stuff like character creation. Even their other non origin companions suffer severely and are gutted.Larian's obsession with their OCs actively makes their games worse. This obsession extends to even the hirelings/mercs ffs.
>>544446838I always go Yoshimo -> Imoen for the kino switcheroo
>>544447492>It's all so over-the-top and we should have killed a goblin king and ended the campaign at level 5.I find this highly ironic when BG3 ends at what, 13?
>>544447763this
CRPG but your companions are the final bosses of other CRPGs
>>544447492>Next you'll tell me mind flayers and elder brains are not your usual antagonists in D&D. It's all so over-the-top and we should have killed a goblin king and ended the campaign at level 5.Baldur's Gate 3 starts with a mind flayer driving a massive nautiloid ship through multiple planes while being chased by gith dragon riders and crash lands in hell. Over-the-top is Larian's normal.
>>544447689>all origins are and overshadow the protag by a mile>entire plot is your character's attempt at omnicide
>>544447504Trump is the MC but also his former self is a companion due to the Lich's time sorcery. You must defeat the Lich or time itself will unravel
cutest skull shape
>>544447763I can't stand Yoshimofunny Japanese ninja man stereotypeBioware are racist pricks
>>544448005Actually, Dark Urge's plot was to sex Orin.
>>544448179>HAIIIYA! Heh, the tourists love that stuff...
>>544447689>obsession with their OCsThis is a trend in crpgs. In many games you're a spectator for the OCs. You don't even have a "personal quest" where your character experiences personal growth
Objective BG2 companion tier list
We're really rolling down the slope of>Companions should only serve to wank the protagonisthuh?
>>544446462It's not incest though, you can be an entirely different race than Imoen. You inherited a portion of divinity from Bhaal, but biologically you are not related at all, so there's really no problem and she should've been a romance option considering that.
>>544447195In arcanum you could get a writer as a companion and he wasn't really a good adventurer.In torment tides of numenera you can have a little homeless girl as a companon and she's useless in combat.It's annoying to have useless companion choices desu, especially when combat is dangerous and deadly, but it's nice to see a little girl be just that, a little girl.These days even mundane looking characters have weird inexplicable proficiency at combat.
>>544448652Don't know why you're surprised. Owlsloppers have been throwing hissy fits every time a character wasn't immediately sucking their dick
>>544448652metaphorically, noliterally, yes
>>544448652>>Companions should only serve to wank the protagonistNowhere was this even implied.
>>544448179He's not Japanese, he's from Kara-tur, which is more like China than Japan.
>>544448625awful unless it's about personality, in which case it's just bad
Reddit finally sold me on Wrath of The Righteous. Want to do a lich run. What is the best base class for this? Also, male or female?
>>544448625>Korgan that low
>page 9someone better be baking
Companions should always have lower stats than you
>>544448625Explain ranking Cernd so low. I actually really liked his companion quest and his ending slide was one of the best, too, although tragic. I disagree with your placement of Nalia as well but I understand why you might call it that way, but your ranking of Anomen is absolutely wrong, he's one of the best characters in the game with the most character growth.
>>544448652Read >>544447689 again. Slowly.
>>544448916>Bioware confused Chinese and Japanese aestheticsHilarious
>>544448916does Yoshimo sound Chinese to you???
>>544449120They're just dull and uninteresting. Anomen has growth, but he's not particularly interesting or likeable.
>>544448005Understandable, I'd be pushing for omnicide too if I had a goblin riding piggyback
>>544449148>>544449354Has it occurred to you yet a fictitious realm may include inspiration from several places
>>544441709jimmy is dead and cassia is literally my pet
>>544448625>Dorn above Rasaadnigga u gay
Real crpg fan here. I hate Arcanum, BG1, 2, and 3, Solasta, every single Owlcat game, Dragon Age, Shadowrun,, Every Bethesda game, Bloodlines, Deus Ex, Expeditions games, Disco Elysium, and Larian games.None of these are crpgs. Nobody has ever made a crpg.
New bread:>>544449787>>544449787
If a companion has higher CHA than you, they should become the de facto leader of the party, with everyone only paying you lip service at most
