Mina (again) Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Previous: >>544438638
https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
>be me>be absolute fucking dogshit>never know what i'm supposed to be doing>never know what level i am>surprised every time i look at my souls >other players bully me for playing like shit>i know factually i'm dogshit>check skill rating>Ritualist V
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockAugust22025/Audio/vampirebat_enemy_krill_grabbed_01.mp3
MINA HAAAAAAA
Either duration or range should improve doorman's ult, making the hotel longer and harder to get out.
>>544526026They should at the very least add more varieties.
>>544524482All of deadlock is an excessive in jungian archetypesCarl jungC.j.Concrete jungle, the map, the canvas for psychological expressionThe heros are the archetypal flavors of individuation, their juxtaposition in the balance landscape mirrors that balance of our collective unconscious
>>544526026Locking Doorman should shut off your computer
You have all 3 lanes losing, what do you do?Do you just keep at it?Or do you give up your lane and gang another lane so you at least win 1 lane?
>>544526026You need to be killed
SEX WITH DOORMAN
>>544526026The point of doorman's ult isn't that the mini obstacle course is hard to do on time. It's a choice for the target to spend stamina or health and also a mindgame to try and throw off doorman's setup combo he does on your return.
>>544525897my favorite is when it plays the voice line like 3 seconds after they already died.
Straight hands, no crazy powers can tape your hands vs Cl*nkers who would you beat
>>544527050Mina as a vampire probably has some level of super strength
>>544527050Even though Mina Ha... Rise Up and Take What you Deserve is a little bitch wouldn't her being a vampire mean she could smack your shit easy?
>>544527050Ivy is made of of literal stone.
>>544527050you against a giant ass steel ball?
>>544527050based filename. Haze is trained in CQC
>>544527205>>544527215She's a bottom of the food chain vampire I don't see her being special >>544527464>>544527514I'm built different Ivy and Dynamo are pussy shit I'll beat them down 2v1
>>544527050imagine starting a fight with a giant mole man and thinking you have a 50/50 chance of winning.
>>544527648Mo is so strong he can dig through concrete like it's sand or some shit. That guy could probably rip a human in half and not even get tired if he did that 2000000 times in a row
>>544527647Dynamo has plenty of experience in fist fights though
>>544526308You gang one lane, specifically left sideThe jungle has a weak side with few creep and a strong side with more creep. So for example, if you put 4 in the left lane(its same for both amber hand or sapphire flame) and the enemy puts 4 to match, your side will have more jungle camps then their side, so they will farm choke each other out more. This gives you a small eco advantage if the matchup drags on but mostly one get greedy and give up then you win the 4v3 and take walker
>>544527960if only he played the game he'd know
I feel demoralized and don't want to play anymore after my recent lose streak.
>>544527050You can beat a trained killer fed but not a lanky Arab?
>>544527050>genuinely thinking you have a 50/50 with a literal Frankensteins Monster or a gorilla that can dig through concreteBrother...
When will valve add a focks motif to this game?
>>544528543the agents have a win streak lined up for you.queue up, now.
>install hud mod>ammo counter is now misaligned>delete hud mod>ammo counter is still misaligned>verify game files>ammo counter is still misalignedi will be killing myself shortly
>>544528628Mirage has the power of the Djinn on his side...
>>544527050I wish I could make my own version of this, but Tiermaker doesn't work for me right now.
>>544529014>ever using mods in an alpha gameYou deserve it.
ain't it a bit too early for sadako?
Why do bad players complain about Mina when she's one of the lowest win rate heroes? In every single rank, can somebody explain that?
>>544529286isn't she the lowest because many people play her solely because of her design?
>>544529286We have this argument every day
>>544529001No, I'm properly demoralized now.Thinking I'm too old for this shit and should play some turn based games instead.
>>544527640>>544528628I'm not losing to a 5'1 womanlet who has to put her targets to sleep before fighting. >>544527648>>544527797>>544528661Mo is a tough one I think there's a chance especially because I got like a 3ft height advantage on him. >>544529083Weird I used https://tiermaker.com/create/deadlock-heroes-16521935 Site seems fine to me
hand over the souls or the candle trooper gets it.
>>544529556Mo is huge he’s just hunched over
>>544529001I TOLD you to start the streak a game earlier now we're down 1 more player>>544529482We have a H*ze smurf ready to carry your next game as an apology
>you have to hold a button to see your level>you have to mouseover your level to see how many souls you need to level>you have to do math to figure out everyone else's level
>>544527050I've trained in martial arts for 15 yearsIf any of them aren't actually supernhuman I think I take emSo basically I lose to fucking everyone. Billy is arguably the one 'most fair' because he's just an alcoholic with cosmetic horns and I'm pretty sure he he hits me with the 2 1 3 1 and I turn into red milk
>>544529858A lot of characters are pretty normal honestly
>>544529769>look at net worth on the top row>maybe look at items/skill upgrades if I have time>decide whether I can kill/not die to someone based on thatwow that was hard.
>>544529769You can see what level their skills are by mousing over them.
>>544530237>>544530330i just want to see a number without having to press buttons and do mathit's a beta
>>544530098Honestly I misread the question/gave them too much credit for what counts as superhuman. Realized after posting. But I didn't want to correct it because that's a fag moveIn reality, I think I rape everyone except the people with retarded supernatural physiology
>>544529769if you press escape you can see character levels on the right.i want to say net worth is a slightly more intuitive way to show a character's power level but the two are directly linked.
>>544530445And what would you do with their level? Someone who's gained 13 levels could have 2 skills maxed or none of them it seems like a useless feature. Most of the Ui mods are just literal cheats imo anyway I see people with 3 timers giving them reminders bright lit up portraits for when they're on screen etc
If I win the lane on Drifter, I win the gameIf I lose the lane, I lose the gameMeanwhile if I get Billy, I just win the game unless I get bored and int
>>544530823Played a game as billy the other day completely lost but dropped like 13 kills 4 deaths and 16 assists. I hit a 5man chain into a Seven ult into a lash. Character aesthetic is cool but he's not for me. Which is honestly a shame.
>>544527050>punch ivy/dynamo/bebop>all your knuckles break>start winning against vyper>she pulls a knife and banshee screams before slithering after you>get a few good hits on shiv>his rage meter fills and he goes full ape escape50/50 against grey talon is crazy
I could beat Abrams in a fist fight id just but healbane and press F
>>544530974Main problem with Billy is that the character design baits you into thinking you're meant to initiate 1v5, chain everyone, group them for the squad. But 99% of the time that's suicideRealistically, you hunt as many 1v1/1v2s as you can in brawls and by the time the enemy team has realized what's going on, it's too lateMost bad Billy players are baited by the chains to int. The second they get over that + their need to melee before seeing the enemy parry, they just walk the enemy team down
Make him wear that damn jacket
>>544531421Ehhhh, maybe but the chain can be good CC if the enemy brool over-extends and your team mates are playing the game. But yes he is not a 1 v 6 character, if you try that you will get anally raped even if you have decent tanking/sustain powers. You can AT best 1 v 2, or 1 v 3 if you're really good and really ahead.
>>544529556>Site seems fine to meYeah, but you aren't living in Russia, where random sites get blocked left and right. My usual VPN didn't work for it for some reason when I wrote that, but now it seems to have loaded.
>>544530720i can, and it is, it just blows my mind that there's this much UI/UX friction around hero levels
>>544526026DUration Extender should increase the length of the room, House of Leaves style
>>544532174ok paige
>>544532174>spend 800>baroness is now inescapable if you don't have at least 2 stamgreat idea
>>544525897Rat on rat violence, yes yes
>>5445326181600, and yesAnd for Superior Duration you have to have four stamina at least
>>544526026They should remove the uninterrupt from doormans ult and give it to Paige instead. They should also make counter spell reflect damage rather than parry it so I can one shot him. Fuck doorniggers
>>544532174>>544526026Now thats a funny ideaHouse of Leaves is a trash book
>reading books
>>544533040Yeah, but it's trashy fun. It's one of the few books that actually uses the medium in a fun way.
>>544528703haha and by ''Valve'' I mean ME and by ''add to the game'' I mean GOONING TO IT RN>>544529858I'm sure you can punch a bunch of women, elderly and kids which are in the game. Just don't try it with Geist, luring men into a close range to feed them to the Oathkeeper is how she keeps herself alive to begin with.
Calico.
>>544532925Just slow hex them before ult
>>544533358At this point just play a puzzle game really, books aren't a good medium for interactivity. Also Doorman needs more Baroness variations, I don't care if its negatively impacting the game's size or balance.
>>544533480If the OP's talk of 'no crazy power can tape your hands' means she's not allowed to just soul suck me, she gets hit with the German Suplex
>>544533735But she can still throw magic bombs and knives at you. All martial arts lose to a knife.
>>544533878Damn her hands explode
>>544533614God sinned against me when he put me on this Earth so far away from Calico-coded women
>>544533614>............should look like this
>>544534106Miss Shelly
>2025/10/29>no diretideDefend this
>>544534513Someone help this child, he seems to be lost.
>>544533614Why is she black
I only play support Paige :3 (I'm not female nor a femboy btw)
Why the fuck is this fat bitch Paige even in the slaughter festivalBilly's bad enough because he's kinda just there to say fuck the system. Paige did a ritual to go into a death battle because of fujoshit brain or something
>>544535161I seriosly think Paige is some one's self-insert at Valve. You just get the vibe off it.
>fat tits>wears glasses>reads booksshe's a monsterfucker for sure
>>544533614Wraith
>>544527050>>544529083My take on this.
>xera showing his comp build after finishing 100 games of drifter>rushes backstab (bait item)>says his big power spike is Hunters aura(bait item) into point blank(bait item) into spirit snatch (bait item)
>watchnightshift>pic related shows upfuck off
>>544536131Seven OP pls nerf
>>544527050
>>544536621Do you think you could win bare handed against a grizzly? They are weaker than Mo
Vyper's voice acting is very, very cringe. It needs to be redone.
>>544536708Mo and Krill come as a package deal. I use the midget as a shield/threaten to crush his throat if Mo doesn't let me get a couple shots in first
>>544535853>All the items that synergize with his kit are baitOK. What do you build on Drifter?
>>544536937Everyone has a plan until they're being mauled by a moleman...
>>544535853The last three aren't bait items. Spirit Snatch is objectively his highest single item powerspike pre-6400, Hunter's is OP as fuck + works extra hard with Drifter's playstyle. Point Blank is semi-bait because it doesn't work on melee spells, but everyone casually walks away from you otherwise and it's still high damage in close rangeBackstab is bait thoughXera in general is an egotistical fuck that's been ignoring actual Drifter mains the entire time while making all the retarded mistakes + waiting for someone else to build for him
>>544536953Im saving that for the major, I will spoonfeed why those are bad tho>backstabberNo dmg>hunters auraMeme that's never active outside of the single iso gank at sinners>point blankDoesn't work with rend>spirit snatchStealing spirit after you blow your only spirit damage
So, how do we nerf Mina HAAAAAAAAAAA without deleting her from the gaym? Yes I do enjoy my free MMR.
>>544527050>people and monsters who have spent most of their lives killing or training to kill people>anything other than anal devestation
>>544537484any passive, haze or infernus or her's, don't work on towers
>after we end>Calico: "too bad this drifte retard got to win"Also Drifter Paige lane is fucking HORRIBLE.
>>544537418Even at non-isolated value, Hunter's is still strong. It's anti-gun on a guy who gets Snatch by default so you get some tanikness while building pure damage. Plus 8% bullet reduction permanently is still the entire reason people buy thing like BRS/Hollow Points>Stealing spirit after you blow your only spirit damageHow can you play Drifter and not know how much damage comes from his ult/2 lolYou seem to be discounting gun shit so you probably aren't going gun and killing everyone in 3 seconds at 20k, so your 2 is actually getting full duration off most of the time>Doesn't work with rendCorrect but it's still 50% damage at the range you always want to be at. Any gun build that can run it wants to run it
>>544526026>what if we made the best anti carry ult in the game better and more obnoxious
>>544537828Calico?
>>544537958this bitch ugly as fuck she looks like an inbetween of a grey alien and a chimp
>>544536131what does, metro? when was he ever on there?
>>544527050Something a little different
>>544537958she would destroy my pelvis
>>544537828>get on zip and hit clip because I feel safe>1 second later>>544535853>>544536953>>544537418Back stabber and pointblank are fine (backstabber isn't just about the damage) but I agree that spirit snatch is bait on gun drifter. Hunter's aura has use cases but it's also bait. It doesn't offer that much damage (what drifter needs) and it's defense is only in situations where Drifter should have the edge. It makes 1v1ing carries better but so would just having way more damage or just buying return fire/rustedTimes where Drifter needs bullet defense aren't times where he's fighting isolated targets
>>544538260Ivy should be in the actual killers field.
>>544538392Ivy's killed?
>>544538458Yeah, she spent the first 18 years of her life talking out the Mendoza Syndicate.
someone posted an interesting idea for a RTS-style control hero on the official 'cord/leddit and i dont know whether it's completely retarded or could it actually work
>>544538260
>>544538548Since she was a baby?
>>544538601This might come as a shock to you but Ivy was never a baby
>>544538601She was never a baby, she is a magically animated gargoyle. Read her lore.
>>544538260While Calico is an actual killer she doesn't really use a gun. She's considered the most dangerous woman on the planet but is still a melee specialist. I think I'd lose in a gun fight because of her mobility not because she can aim thoughever.>>544538587Kek based list
>>544538746>>544538765A baby gargoyle?
>>544538548didn't she crush them WITHOUT actually spilling blood? i remember her bragging about that in some voice line (maybe in a converstation with 'dicta?)
>>544537837Hunter is weak sauce non iso, I dont discount gun stuff just those specific gun stuffs
>>544539041Its stats are still comparable to actual items that use similar stats even non-isolated. But A. if you can't consistently isolate, you're just bad/shouldn't play an isolation character, and B. it's a fucking aura. Even if you aren't stopping one guy, you're still affecting multiple which means it has teamfight value on an otherwise selfish characterAlso its flat stats are still very good. Health and speed are mandatory on him
>>544538746>>544538765>>544538837>Gargoyles don't have larvae formsExplain THIS atheists
>>544539285Bruh look at this dood
>>544538765>the Arroyo'sthe Arroyo's what?
>>544538310reactive barrier saved you here
lol
The only tier list that matters
>>544536915fuck you she has the best lines
>>544539276>if you cant consistently iso you're badAu contrare, If you can consistently iso you're in shitlow. I think you are just getting defensive because unironically defending the aura as some sort of teamfight value is insane
>magician guy is a bickering married couple trapped together, desperate for divorce kinda depressing when you think about it
>>544536915There's alot of mediocre takes that are given here, but this is egregiously bad. Vyper not only has an objectively attractive voice, she's also funny. Your sense of humor or mind in general is just too jaded.
most IMPORTANT tier list
>>544539821>I'm contrarian + can't find people alone on an isolation character + think I know better than literally every high level streamer + I'm a niggerlollmao
>>544539982Watch as they complete the ritual together through teamwork, reigniting their love and making them change their minds.
>>544536915The voice acting is fine I just hate how she's literally just "Wow haha look I know this guy :)" She's a boring quipster in a cast of funny quipsters.
>>544539803>gay guy with preg fetishguh?
>>544539803>lash>unfuckableyou just can't recognize greatness can you
>>544540412I don't think Lash would fuck (you).
>>544539821If you assume your isolation is never going to be active why did you pick drifter?
>>544540201she's not boring you just don't get hershe's peak and i want her to own me
>>544540201>he didn't think the voice line about her Jacob Lash Labubu was hilarious This generation is doomed
Let's break down why Hunter's Aura is bait on Drifter.On lone targets it only lowers bullet resist by 24% Here are some items that do more damage than that:Hollow point, 35% (and lowers their BR by 14%)Elephant Rounds, 30%Burst Fire, 10% base fire rate + 35% conditional fire rateFury trance and Blood Tribute, 40% fire rateAll of these do more damage for the same price. The only real merit HA has is the firerate reduction but again, Drifter needs damage, spending an early 3200 on sometime that only does some damage but is mainly a gun defense item rapes your early game. There are multitude of other antigun stuff that's cheaper that will do far more for you than HAJust think about it, it's only useful against lone targets, where Drifter is already dominant so you have a 3200 item that doesn't really help you get kills nor keep you alive in team fights. Just get a T2 antigun if you need it.
midboss is genuinely so overtunedeither add vents from spawn to it or make them respawn with 20% hp
>>544536915She has pretty much the best delivery of the entire cast and has great lines.Cope.
>>544540887It gives you value in a team fight retard. If you weren't pisslow you'd stop theorycrafting this shit every day and actually be able to climb. One hunters aura on your team is a massive boon to fights. Drifter is a good carrier for it.
>>544540972>Best delivery For females I'd put her Calico and Paige in the top 3 but I'm not sure on the order, but for the whole cast? I think it's doorman.
>>544541359Yeah I guess Doorman is pretty good, too. I just don't play him (unlike Vyper), so I don't generally hear his lines
>>544540887>durr damage is literally all that mattersI can tell you don't actually play this game at a level worth giving a fuck aboutThe point of Hunter's is that it gives literally everything a brawler of any kind needs. Fire rate reduction is more valuable than actual bullet resist, it gives a fucking ton of health for a 3200 yellow, it gives roaming speedThe reduction is an important part but it's also 'just' a part. -24% is not an "only". It is second only to Infernus' 40% amp in terms of pure damage calcsAnd once again, it's an aura. Meaning in the situations where you aren't getting full value, your team is probably taking advantage of it without the conditions that come with Hollow Points/BRSThere is literally nothing stopping you from building the other good damage tools on top and giga-amping their damage. There's a reason Hunter's is bought so often on literally every character. Drifter is flexible, can be built hybrid, but ultimately if you're building him gun or hybrid, he's still following the exact same rules that everyone else who builds the item does. You aren't reinventing the wheel bro. You're just being wilfully obtuse to prove you 'don't need it'
>>544530790Level would let you know breakpoints like 3/8 skill points and generally let you get a feel for powerspikes
Why I'm always behind on souls? I clear waves, do jungle, but somehow I'm still always behind.
>>544540156Yes they are unironically being retarded, go watch a random match, they get maybe 3 or 4 iso moments in the whole game. And its not like they are all in agreement either, metro says its bait too and he is dlgs favorite eternus>>544540472Its not an assumption its an observation, I pick him because hes interesting
>>544542160Unless you are playing one of the retarded hyperfarming chromie friendly characters you will always be behind them.
>>544541359>For females I'd put her Calico and Paige in the top 3incurable shit taste
>>544541173>>544541604>triggered dickridersHe wont read this bro you can stop
>>544542160Do you>stack on lanes 2< players on them>go jungling while there are actively creeps in your lane>ignore sinners whenever you see them
>AP/unlocks and boons are generated from soul farm and are delivered in a staggered schedule but are also gained from other sources and events on top of this>golden statues are all over the map to ~promote routing~ but give completely random bonuses with no regard to hero, build, location, or gamestatethese systems are chaotic and will change by 1.0
>>544542160I'm always ahead but it doesn't really make a difference in alot of team fights. Clear waves, do jungle, and do boxes. Especially after they start getting to higher soul thresholds boxes are invaluable. Clusters of 4-16 boxes give you hundreds to thousands of souls in just a few seconds. Buy a farming item, either cultist or trophy collector if you're farming kills/ assists
>>544540081pocket and doorman should be in a "will pretend to get overpowered" tier
>>544525897They really need to improve these voicelines. Haze's is the only one that sounds like she's actually getting Mo-lested.https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockAugust22025/Audio/haze_enemy_krill_grabbed_01.mp3https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockAugust22025/Audio/haze_enemy_krill_grabbed_02.mp3
>>544541173>hold on let me buy hunter's aura at 20 minutes in for teamfightslol. >Drifter is a good carrier for itExcept he's not because he's not tanky at all nor can he displace enemies. HA is best on characters like bebop or wraith. Drifter is better off doing damage in a fight or chasing down low health targets >>544541604>-24% is not an "only"Compared to the four other T3s, it kind of is, especially as an early buy which many Drifters are doing right now>NO NO NO YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU MUST BE SHITLOW!!!Actually think about what it does and what Drifter needs in games. It does almost nothing when players are grouped (at those times Drifter could really use damage that isn't tied to isolated target status) and when they're alone you're either ganking them (would still be more useful if he had more damage) or chasing them (sprint speed does nothing and neither does reduced firerate).The use cases for HA is either there's an overfed gun hero 1v3ing (unlikely) or you're really struggling to 1v1 a gun hero—and like I said there are better items for it. Like it said, it's not an awful item but Drifter players are building it too often and too early. Think about what you're actually saying "It's good because Drifter can stand in team fights... near the lone targets and... let teammates kill them". It just doesn't do enough for a hero that is so weak
>>544542454>unable to objectively look at delivery of linesSeparate your personality feelings from the conversation faggot
>>544542743Post an in game screenshot of your rank and drifter win rate
Just kind of at that point where there isn't too much to playing. There is only so much you can do as a solo player and at this point i'm just playing games a lot and most games are just stomps which comes from one team knowing what they're doing and the other having half the players not knowing what they're doing
>>544542916I will but you have to do it first.
>>544542682>Mina is so haughty and uptight that her classist disgust impairs her ability to recognise she's being molestedit's kino actually
>>544542284Metro is the most shit on streamer/guide maker of literally all of them lol. I don't think I've ever seen someone unironically say they like him here or that his builds are good. 'Don't play Seven blyat' copypasta etc>go watch a random matchI'll watch my own in Eternus lobbies where I can consistently find them. Part of the reason you buy it first item is because you're more likely to find isolation kills early, but even discounting that, you're still ignoring the fact that it's just better than every other damage reduction option even if it's at non-isolated values. It gives crazy tank stats to a person building a 3200 yellow. So you're getting the best of both worlds while still hitting breakpoints for gun shop buffs>>544542743>Compared to the four other T3s, it kind of is, especially as an early buy which many Drifters are doing right nowOnce again, it's an amp. 24% weapon damage and -24% are not the same thing you fucking mathlet. -24% is infinitely, otherwise things like BRS/Hollow Point would never be bought because they wouldn't math out at all, even as stat sticks. This isn't even a Deadlock thing, this is basic fucking moba shit. And unlike a lot of others, resists can go negative in this so it's valuable at all levelsOnce again, -24% is second only to Infernus' 40% amp. It is better than literally everything else for phys lol>NO NO NO YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU MUST BE SHITLOWNo I know you're in shitlow because your grand plan build is fucking Surge without Snatch and "surely if I just build attack speed with more ammo I do the best damage :)" retard-level buildingBut most importantly it's because you just don't know basic ass math that's tossed around in every game because every game has this same concept. And even if you did know the math, it's because you're reductive about all the other bloated as fuck stats it offers
>>544540887-bullet resist is a multiplicative boost that's stronger against +bullet resist. More than one gun damage item and you're getting diminishing returns, more than one fire rate item and you're getting diminishing returns, more than one shred item and you're getting diminishing returns (lucky shot is also multiplicative). You ideally want to get as much of each of these stats as possible rather than dumping in one stat. Gun damage is more common than fire rate which is more common than shred though. If you have +200 gun dmg and + 100 fire rate, you will deal 600% damage, so if you lower their resist to -25% you will deal 750% damage. If you get 50% gun damage, like point blank, you will deal 350% at 200% fire rate, so you'll deal only 700% damage. And if they have 25% bullet resist you will shred them to 0, which is a 33% increase in damage taken.
>lose because team's micro is horrible>I can't be everywhere at onceNeed a hero that has mirage's ult but on a lower cd. Basically someone who has insane map presence.
>>544543702tf is this
>>544543702Congratulations!
>>544537484Just let her rise up and take what she deserves bro
>>544543702Now delete everything I dont likeThanks! James
I only play drifter and exclusively ult isolated female characters and imagine Im smelling their menstrual blood to chase them down and rape them in the darkness
is there any way to force creeps and healthbars to have spectator colours in normal gameplay rather than ally/enemy white/red?
>>544525470>get into game>my lane aprtner is a new mirge player that cant aim, against a vindicta and a mcginnis>vidicta disconnects so I guess we can win this>our holliday is also new and does nothing>moe and krill cant stop farming and take so long to do anything the enemy team catches up on soul count and we lose a fucking 5v6easily the most useless moe and krill I ever seen. it is not that he didnt know how to play it is just that he refused to do so.
Name one good reason why you shouldn't feed a kill if it secures an objective.
>>544544609You will literally lose the game if (You) die.
>>544544609the enemy team gets Mid boss
What's a good Mo&Krill build?
>>544543436>buying it early>starts egoing about how its mathematically better>is literally wrongMight want to show your work padawan cause shred is worse early+you never get iso(post a single match id with 5+ and I will consneed this)You got baited by the item and are seething
>>544544609Suicided and took all 3 walkers alone yesterday, still lost. Now I have to win 10 games to maintain my 80% winrate on Miku
>>544544609Because I wanted to die for that objective and you stole my fucking valour
>>544543702I bet youre looking forward to your first paycheck
>>544543021>you first I accept your concession pisslow. I'm not the one here for validation. Initiate retards really need to learn their place.
>>544544751Lightbringer Makrill if you recognise the names in your game and you can trust them to deal damagePreNut otherwise, but focus more on the items that let you deal damage like TP, Scourge, EE etc.
>>544545007>doesnt post rank eitherImagine whiteknighting streamers in an alpha game on anonymous drifter theory crafting board
>>544544759>shred is worse earlyDid you just read the other guy's post and use their misconception about people needing to build resists to reduce it as the crux of your argument?Resists can go negative. There is no You're getting shop buff + 24% amp which is always, without fail, with zero exceptions, better than 24% weapon damage. Or even 50%. It's the difference between multiplying the 'base' weapon damage you get from leveling up versus multiplying the 'final' damage, post-other multipliers. While also getting the tank stats. If you've ever played another moba, PoE, or any other minmax-autist game, you should know this.
Man Deadlock is too intense. My brain is on overdrive when I play. It's hard to be at 100% after a day of work. Maybe I'm getting old.
>>544545572Kinetic dash gives 30% for half the price brainlet
>>544545572There is no 'shred is worse early'*
>>544545740What the fuck are you saying cunt>durr I'm just baitingFuck off retard
>>544545007You demand my rank, I'm fine with that but it's only right you post yours first. I have a sneaking suspicion you're lower than me otherwise you'd post yours. Don't respond to this post, the discussion is over with you
>>544544609Depends on how late in the game it is, if you die taking down a walker you may give away your walker for free, possibly an urn and even midboss.
>>544545442Alright, thanks. What about their play style? Any tips? I get that you need to be close to the enemy to deal damage and Combo when a teammate is near.
If you buy hunters and stand next to someone you're giving each hero on your team +24% damage so thats a 144% damage boost for only 3200 souls
>>544546475Lightbringer's build is entirely played around relying on your team to make the most of the opportunities of you grabbing an enemy or knocking them up with burrow. You need to co-ordinate with someone and catch enemies out when your ultimate is ready. Your farm will take a backseat so your carry teammates can get farmed instead.Pre-Nuts allows you to be more greedy, focus more on dealing damage yourself and being tanky as well as getting farm done when you can. They both focus on extending your ult duration as long as possible and making it easier to grab key targets with items like Phantom Strike and Warp Stone. There's also piggy's build and maybe saintmxm has one but I've not looked in a while
>>544544609It depends.>over 18 mins into game>you die taking down a walker>any other teammate gets picked off while you're still in the gray screen>enemy grabs midboss>you lose it's worth dying for towers before the respawn spike of ~15 minutes, after that, no. It's especially worth dying for the T1 towers before 15 minutes because otherwise you'll never get them.
>honest characters only playing drifter in eternusalright which one of you faggots is this
>>544546249>I..it's only rightYou're here making retarded claims but won't add any validity to them by proving you're not shit at the game. It's clear you don't even understand the most basic fundamental concepts and dodging the rank question validates that even further.
>>544544751Duration extender torment pulse first and put all your skill points into your ultimate, even saving the points you get before you can skill itThen buy flying carpet and go around getting one free kill every 70 seconds
>>544545925Idk what you think you mean by amp, this is ripped direct from the wiki math section>-30% resist = 130% of the damage from the weapon or ability -24% is just that, -24%. It does apply to your teammates dmg but this is not really what you are talking about
>mo and krill player typing a paragraph for a character that literally comes down to buying warpstone and pressing ult on someone
>>544546878Maxing Krill's ult is bait these days. Going from level 2 to level 3 barely increases the damage (and the lifesteal is already total fucking shit as a result)
>>544546683>you need a buff to 6v1Sasuga
>>544546683Holy fucking kek frognigger BTFO'd the pisslow retard so badly he killed himself
>>544546929... yes. That's what an amp is.Do you know how Infernus' amp works? It's a 40% in all situations. -30% is a 130% boost in all situations. What it's being compared to, 30% weapon damage, is a 30% boost of 'base' weapon damage. So if you have 100 base weapon damage, which you won't, then it goes to 130%. This also doesn't account for the diminishing returns of weapon damage. You very quickly start losing value.tl;dr -30% res is a 130% multiplier of "final" stats. Whatever your damage would be at the end of calculations, multiply that by 130%. Whereas in most situations, even a 100% weapon damage boost won't amount be higher unless you already have very high base damage from levels.Every other stat in the game has diminishing returns and is built off a relatively low base value. But -resist is always the number listed, and the number listed is a multiplier of the final results.
>>544547087this also affects towers and midboss
calico has a sexy voice
>>544548010Yea now she just needs a less ugly model and she would be perfect. Also finish her conversation list IceNigger. After hearing her shit on Vyper I wanna see more.
Holy kek my seveniggers, I usually play paraslut but seven is actually really fun. Just use stun and chase the poor faggot down, you downplayers are just not aggressive enough on him.
>>544548117Warden's interaction need to come first
At least one nigger here has never played PoE to see how final damage % makes number go much much much bigger than +% damage
>>544548375you just know they'd become a glass-eyed mannequin trying to understand the distinction between more, add, and increased.
don't be racist in dlg
>>544548651be racist on our discord!
>>544547469A correction, -resist is multiplicative with itself, and + resist is multiplicative with itself, but they're additive with each other. Meaning -resist is worse the more you buy, but it's better the more armor they have. A -50% resist bought against +50% resist will mean 0% resists. But if you just buy more -resist when they have none, you will be less efficient with each purchase, because the calculation of -resist is the same as for +resist, you can never get more than 100% -resist, unless you have a single source that grants -100% or more
>>544545721I don't play on weeknights either. I play two games and I already need to be in bed, fuck is the point
>>544548264If your enemies are fleeing the moment you put the stun on them, you are versing shitlows. There is nothing to fear from a <1s stun.
>>544549079nta but didn't know that bit about res shred diminishing with itself, that throws some of my builds out of wack. Back to the drawing board I guess.
>>544549401Yeah i just looked it up on the wiki i thought it was different
So hollow point or Hunters aura for drifter?>Hollow is -12% while above 65% hp>Hunters is -8% unconditionally and -24% conditionally.
Mina haaaaaaaaaaaaa
>ITT: Anon tries to disprove meta build and fails miserably He'll be back tomorrow with his meme pasta
>>544549079You've misunderstood. The multiplicative nature applies to adding up multiple -resist sources. But we're only talking about single source right now. But once you have that final -resist number, we'll say 30, it's just a flat subtraction. It doesn't matter if they have 20 and lose 30 to go to -10 or from 30 - 0. They lose 30 in both cases. It being below 0 or whether they bought resists doesn't matter.
>>544545721Same but i'm not old just stupid
>>544549715probably depends on comps. HP is gonna lose all its value if they have a bunch of ranged nukers like GT/Holliday/Pocket. On the other hand, HA gets better value the more gun builders on your team.
>>544549079-100% to 0% resist is a linear scale0% to 100% resist is an exponential scaleTherefore resist reduction is better when the enemy has higher resist because you are reducing the exponential curve. Therefore its better later when they have resists you guys are either really terrible at explaining this or wrong and im leaning towards the latter
>>544550386You were saying -30% is a 30% damage boost in all situations, but it's in fact ONLY in case they have exactly 0 armor. If they have less or more they final boost will be less or more.
>you can just type out names in the hero select instead of clicking themneat.
>>544550663>mobile duckduckgo screenshotYour whole post is invalidated
>>544550821>doesnt showcase InfernusBroken system, post on forum so valve can fix
>>544549715Neither. Pointblank, burst fire, and fury trance. After that get T4s
>>544550663I'll try to give you the simple conclusion since this thread turned into platos academy: resist shred is better the higher their resist, and worse the more shred you have. If you inflict no more than one source of resist shred, they will lose exactly that numerical value from their resist.
Isolated targets should ALSO do 15%-25% less damage to Drifter
>>544551402>shred is bad if you stack it>meta paradox build stacks every shred item in the game and deletes people
>>544551402So the biggest single source of resist shred is the best. Meaning Hunters Aura is best.>>544551598Thanks to Hunters Aura, they do
>>544549228Nig-chan, it matters when you use it. If you use it with all your other skills while the enemy overextended. Both you and your ally can dump all on him and your lightning ball if you time it properly. Hell just you alone if you time it properly is so much damage, they don't even need to run away, just stun and surge them and if they stay and fight you ball them a little before stun hits, you will almost always win dps trade, also use it to peel off an ally by doing the same thing.
>>544550764?It doesn't matter if you take 70% of 100, 40% of 100, or 10% of 100. The difference between them all is 30. Each -30% is +30 damage-resist is simply a flat reduction. It's literally always a 30% damage boost on the final valueThere is no special calculation for the final resist vs damage. It's damage * resist%. -30% reduction is literally always a 130% multiplier of the final calced damage. The only time the variability comes in is in determining the initial -reduction valueWhat you're saying would only matter if there was initially a calculation to determine resist, and a second calculation with some kind of secondary diminishing returns.
Aren't Duration and Cooldown complete meme items?
>>544551726I didn't say bad, i said worse. Fire rate is also worse if you stack it, but it's not a bad idea to buy several fire rate items.
>>544551125Valve is a Seattle-based company after all, can't be making the heckin niggerinos mad and burn down the office.
>>544551906Maybe in pisslow where fights last so long you can get another 60 second cd off
>>544551906worst post in days
>>544552093As opposed to fights being so qiuck that you can get another 50 second cd off?
>Haze dies once like a retard 3 minutes in due to pushing too hard>LeavesI don't even have a reaction image for this.
I remember what makes Haze's dagger tilt me so much now. Fucking Riki sleep dagger
>>544552559since fucking when does riki have a sleep dagger
>>544551598isolation should be an inverse>when you are alone as drifter you do 25% dmg>more enemy niggas show up increases those stacks multiplicatively >can stack to 150%>t3 also makes the souls you give out on death reduced by the percentage of these stacks you havethe first antigank hero
>>544552619dota's mutated into an entirely different game over the past 5 years.
>>544552619It was his Aghanim's Shard ability for a while and it was incredibly fucking broken. It has since been removed. I am sure it's not a coincidence it was added to the game around the time banner creeps, shield distinctions (like deadlock used to have) and a million other concepts that are present in Deadlock were being added to Dota 2
>>544552675like that silly bloodbat from newerth?
>>544552262it's not about shaving 10 seconds off a 80 second cooldown ultit's about shaving 1 second off a 10 second cooldown ability
>>544551402Shred is always king by virtue of working for frens. It's a damage boost to everyone.
>>544551906Duration applies to a ton of buffs/Debuffs/cc's its only a meme if you don't have any of those. Mo&Krill with duration extenders will make people want to kill themselves.
>>544552002wtf is this real
>>544553380Except the increase is negligible.
>>544551902Your EHP goes from 1000 hp at 0% resist, 1428 hp at 30% resist, 2500 hp at 60% resist and 10000 at 90% resist, each point of resist becomes more and more valuable until the 100th point of resist gives you infinite ehp. Please finish high school before confusing /dlg/. Currently resist works like this: multiply up all the sources of +resist, like if you have two 30% resists and one 10% you multiply up the remainder of the damage, so 1-(0.7*0.7*0.9)=1-0.441=55.9% resist. Then do the same calculation for -resist, and subtract the final value from the +resist final value. Hunters + hollowpoint ward + weakening headshot makes for 1-(.76*.88*.88)=1-0.589=-41.1%. then you subtract one from the other, 55.9-41.1=13.8%.
>>544553581t3 duration is the difference between goo ball being a mild annoyance vs stunlocking you in the rape closet.
>>544548010I wish she had more voicelines. For osme reason she seems to have fewer when it comes to bombs and slash at least.maybe it's becaause they are spammable
>>544550840Duck duck go is based tho>>544551906Cooldown is op >>544551940Every orange firerate item gives damage from investment so its the least bad to stackOn a delayed note hunters aura buffs your teammates damage is also bad for drifter because they will steal your last hit
>>544553372How good it actually is to buy shred has nothing to do with what I'm saying, it just becomes less efficient if you have more shred
>>544553581objectively not true
>>544553581the duration extenders are not just for Mo&Krill ult. Its for Burrow/fleetfoot so you can rotate faster, your disarm lasts longer which makes everyone live longer. Your cold front will slow longer.
>>544553581>Enemy buys debuff remover for whatever aids my teammate has>Don't buy duration extender>My spells instantly wear off )
0.2-0.3 seconds of extra duration is not worth 3.2k souls and an item slot I'm afraid
>2025>almost all HUD assets are 1080p
>>544554718made with tf2niggers in mind please understand
>>544554458>0.2 -0.3 seconds you really need to go into practice mode and actually read
how come we don't got transrangeand transduration we have transcd give me that super ability duration and cooldown reductioni want to permanently fly as vindicta
>>544555030transcd only exists to nerf other items, as far as abilities are concerned it's a waste of money compared to t3 cd.
>>544555030
>>544553475Probably. Her whole gimmick is sucking the life out of people. She's probably experimented with the concept a few times.
>>544552002>racist is also a pedophileshocking (not really)
what if lash just straight up got stamina mastery for free as a grapple upgrade instead of the useless 20% fire rate for t5
>>544525470>one team is 10k behind>they kill two or three people then get mid boss >the game ends in the next five minutesHow many of your matches out of the last 20 in your match history does this describe?
Not many usually it's 30k souls behind and they dick around and have to do mid boss twice
Is there a way to check damage negated or some shit?I always wonder how useful my spirit resiliences and other defensive items are after a game.
Midboss being strong is a good thing and if it got hard nerfed you'd still get stomped except games would be a passive wankfest where the enemy team bullies you so hard you're stuck in base until they feel properly farmed enough to actually push 60 mins in
>Be Emissary>game keeps putting me into Seeker matches>keep losing rank because Seekers are uncarryableLet me out of this hell
>>544551906CDR is a must-buy in any hero that builds spirit, specially if they have a good ult actually some heroes have such good abilities that you buy CDR even in gun builds, plus transCDR buffs some weapon items a lot like capacitor and siphonduration depends more on the hero but when it's good it's GOOD, mostly used by support CC rapists like mokrill, ivy and paige
>>544544751PreNut but after getting scorn T2 max out burrow before you level up anything else, MAYBE get T1 combo if you're afraid a haze is gonna burst you down while youre holding her lane partner
>>544555970you could make a different objective that isn't as stupid
>>544554319Burrow also deals more damage as the spin gets longer
Fun fact, Rising Ram's distance scales with ability duration, not range
>>544556893that's weird.
>>544556384sure but then you would just cry about that instead
>>544556893Charge de Shoulder is the same
>>544556893it should also scale with movespeed
>>544557168with shoulder charge you can see a visual duration bar, but with rising ram you don't
>>544557121a bold yet foolish prediction
Sorry but my free-thinking build kicks ass. It turns Drifter into the pick hero he was meant to be instead of a mediocre brawler. But instead of CC he just does a shit ton of damage
>>544555970The game is missing extra objectives so they overcompensate with making midboss have the strength of 3 extra objectives. Hopefully it's temporary. Midboss ideally should just be the rejuvenators and nothing more.
>>544557342Valve likes to copy paste to speed up their slow development process :)I would not be surprised if Shoulder Charge is in some capacity making use of code written for the L4D2 charger 3 decades and 2 eons ago
>>544557420and yet, almost certainly true
>>544557481INCORRECt and RIDICULOUS i would at the least complain less often
I don't like being paired with people who don't know the meaning of the phrase "split pushing". They brool, then die, they lose.
>>544557431If you be buying burst fire surely that is then better to have a fleet of foot instead of a surging power?
>>544557431This is just a normal Drifter build. I don't know why people can't figure out that you just have to build him like Haze but with Point Blank.
What the fuck is going on with Calico? This bitch used to do nothing and for a week now when I see her I fucking explode. What the fuck???
>Get braindead characters shuch as shiv and wraith on your team>They open their mouths to complain>They sound braindeadEvery time.
which heroes are the least aim-dependent? i like supporting, creating space with suicidal brooling, and saying "worth" after i die
>>544557431hunter snatch mafia not gonna like this one
>>544558007Shiv was particularly funny in lane. He was being chased half health by an ulting nigfernus and drifter, then proceeds to run inside the small camp rape room and obviously die, proceeds to complain I didn't help him.
>>544558049Wraith and paradox
>>544556273Im pretty sure the t3 cooldown is meta on literally everyone.
>want to lock>too horny
>>544558049calico, paige
Time to watch the same 3 teams go at it again!
>make the most stiff upper lip british hero model of all time>give him a generic nobody american voice
>>544552002>pedoshitok kike
>>544559164me when i play planetside 2
>>544559193>Isn't even a Bobby
>>544557642>If you be buying burst fire surely that is then better to have a fleet of foot instead of a surging powerUsed to run fleetfoot a lot but I find that the constant speed let's Drifter be more effective. You actually get movespeed while near lone targets. And as Drifter I get a lot of souls doing boxes and sinners and I roam a lot for kills. And late game I can get jug if I need bullet defense. It's hard to justify buying both fleet and enduring.Surge is legit great on Drifter at least compared to snatch. Frankly, there is a case to be made to getting NO spirit items core but surge does so much at once and you use all of it.
>>544557431>cat scratching the pillow build
>even in ass 6 people refuse to buy actual armour, anti heal or debuff resistance
>>544557903she got buffed to shit, then she got nerfed but with "compensating buffs" that equated to another net buff
>>544559564love enduring+surge when I can't justify using fleetfoot, usually due to active slot restraints.
>>544559718armor is a waste of souls
>>544554790The ones who use higher quality custom huds?
>Just want to play victor>By the time I get to be effective we've lost our other lanes>Carries keep dying and can't farm>Enemy carries get fucking huge>Not fed enough myself to just face roll the enemy>Destined to survive team fights I know we'll lose and get gang raped
>>544559975Playing Victor is suffering. You either do fucking nothing or you're so unstoppable the only thing that's keeping you from a free win is a single teammate not being a mouthbreathing troglodyte that can fight with you.
>>544559975>>544560154he needs a rework, just isn't fun for anyone
Where's that jumpy gnome hero? I want some platforming mascot to jump around with
Hello /dlg/, what hero should I play if I'm a 80IQ gorilla with with aiming skills of a blind old man.
Speaking of transcendent duration, why do so many builds include it but not improved cooldown? Sometimes I just want improved cooldown and not transcendent cooldown, and I have to look through the store to find it.
>>544558743yeah most heroes have abilities that are good enough to want CDR even if the rest of your build is orangebut it's kinda whatever in builds like gun haze, gun vyper and afterburn infernus, or for some tank builds like green abrams and tankbop
>>544560328Mo & Krill; Kelvin; Paige
this is my least favourite thing about deadlockthere is so, so much granular conditional shit on nearly every mechanic in the game in the seeming pursuit of 50-50 balance in as many contexts as possible instead of simply letting things naturally have powerful edge cases
Hop in night shift
Can't wait for those overwatch leeching grifters to get displaced
Dragoness hero WHEN!?Wifwolf hero WHEN!?Snep hero WHEN!?
>>544560651>>544560840Thoroughly entertained.
>>544560627Well if you wanted all the bombs to deal the same amount of damage you'd have to make each bomb weaker overall which would make her landing only one or two bombs do significantly less damage than with the current system, retard
>>544560651>>544560840"we're friends"
>>544560898why are furries so attracted to this game when it has so little for them
>>544561035>if you want a conditional powerspike you have to make the ability weak so the powerspike doesn't exist anymore :)
>>544561264>I should be doing 300 damage at level 1 with a spammable nuke just because I stood next to youkek, you really are retarded
>>544561226Because it's a fun game?I play plenty of games with no fluffy content.
>>544561035>you'd have to make each bomb weaker overall which would make her landing only one or two bombs do significantly less damage than with the current systemnta but whats actually the problem with that? Shouldn't it incentivise the skill of landing all the bombs?
>Mfw raping Haze as M&KFeels so good.
>>544561378why are you standing next to the hero who has that :)
>>544561448>Buy artic blast>Guaranteed 3000 damage everytime it's upalternatively>any stun exists on your team>
>>544559718no one buys debuff remover that's for sure. you can even see it in pro matches, pretty much 0 DBRs bought, every single time. that item just doesn't provide enough value.
>>544561486stealth niggers get the rope
>>544561448It still does, but it also means she doesn't have to do that to have some lane presence
>>544560627Is that Calico? You're never going to hit more than a few the random spread on them is retarded and only large hitbox characters like Abrams is it possible to do outside of like a 5 meter range consistently. It's better this way than having them all be weaker
>>544561486I miss the old shop. Not only could I rape the Haze's with my spells I could mog them with a few decent gun items too
>>54455971830% anti heal isn't enough, only soul burn is viable.
>>544561503There is no hero that has that lol :)
>>544561486I use to not understand the haze hate but now that I've climbed a bit I fucking cannot stand that hero. Literal flow chart they all play the same, sleep dagger needs to not be instant stun.
>>544561486
>>544560497Paige is a skillshot character. >>544560328If you can't aim play Doorman his bullets can't miss. If you don't want to shoot play Kelvin, Abrams, Krill or spirit miku
>>544559564nice heist but I bet that mo wouldn't agree
>>544561780>>544561584Im of the opinion that Haze is a dishonest character but if there was a 6400 item that let you see people who are cloaked (or just told you there was someone cloaked nearby) then she would be basically about right
>>544561842why don't you max the 2 or the 4? weirdge
>>544560898snepsnepsnepsnepsnepsnepsanepensaopneneosnepsnepsnsnpenspepsnepsenpsnepsnepsnepsnepnepsnepsnenspnepsnepsnepsnepsnepsnepsenppsnpeppnsepnsepnensnenp[snepsepospenspnepsn
>>544562092I mean you might as well call that item "the Haze fucker-overer" because it will never be bought other than to do that
>>544560240say no more>aura of suffering minimum damage changed from 16->0 and maximum from 70 -> 3>self damage changed from 70% -> 7000% We will be going on holiday vacations until February now, please continue enjoying Deadlock
>all the new heroes got pickedwho could have predicted this!
>>544562323NTA but I like to max 1 and then 4 and ignore putting points in 2 and 3 until I have to>ascendant 3
>>544561037no viscous
>>544562424Are you okay?
>>544562519>No Billy, Drifter
>>544562537
>>544562456I feel like there are a lot of items that are basically that already (not against Haze specifically)
>>544562523from my experience you're not gonna rely on killing people on your own anyway so there's little point in maxxing the 4 until the 2 is maxed
>a guy from buff enjoyers jumped ship to abls team after being btfod by them in the 10k tourney>BE is gone for now>only russian teams remainDark times for the deadlock community
>>544562864max mo ult adds like 50 damage or some such retard shit, legit just buy an alch fire or something if you want your ultimate to do a bigger damage lol
>>544561962>>544560497Alright, I'll try running this roster for now, thanks
One last thing I'll say about Hunter's aura for now is that it pigeon holes you too much. There are gonna be times where you need to kill people who aren't completely alone and that's where you need unconditional damageLone targets are already free kills that aren't gonna be dishing much back anyways.
>>544562995she looks like a little boy in this one. excellent
>>544562938Russian intentionally throwing their game with rescue beam was too much the bulgarian chad i guess..lystic also said he was taking a break, zergy always seem miserable playing the video game on stream... they might all be going the way of 20 year old gamer from finland
>>544562323Just following the PreNut build. Seems to work well enough. I'll play with it a bit more before looking into ability upgrade order.
>>544562092Haze is a dishonest character because sleep dagger guarantees a heavy melee at level 1 and nothing else in the game does period minus Abrams charge level 2 and maxed seven stun. The rest of her kit is skill based becoming harder to use the more you climb
>>544563163tentacular magazine on drifter with kdash and slide item???
>>544563278>guarantees a heavy meleeyour lanemate?
>>544561423>>544560898slit your wrists mentally ill attention whore
>>544562804well obviously not
>>544562864I duration max so it works out fine, there are a few times where I'll change my build up if there's like more than one hero that's good at saving (like going against Viscous and Paige), but usually maxxing 1 then 4 works great and you can do plenty of damage alone
>>544563187prenectular nut says to max burrow after maxing scorn thougbeit, i'm sceptical about maxing scorn first though doesn't actually give you much extra damage if you test it on a bot in sandbox
>>544562827yeah, but even those items can be applied to other characters, a cloak radar only even does anything against characters with cloaks, so it's 0 value unless Haze specifically is in the match, because she's the only character with one. I think it would be the most niche item in the game by a good amount.I guess you could buy it if a Veilwalker buyer was terrorizing you but idk seems weird to counter a 3200 buy with a 6400. Maybe though.
>>544563352Talking about in a vacuum, but yes everything in the game can be countered by having another person doing xyz
>>544563358No.Okay, what now?
>>544561651i think you're misunderstanding mei want fixed behaviours and fixed baseline values to play around instead of the power of everything being based on as many conditions and sliding scales as possiblethe game is so fucking complex already, and there are already conditionals on ability power being imposed by the ways people play around them and arrange themselves with their team and move around in combat and build their heroes that maybe SOME of these conditionals aren't truly necessary after allat a certain point this approach to balance becomes a pathological pursuit of adding complexity to remove interesting interactions, and i think deadlock takes it a little too farthere are more solutions to balancing Gloom Bombs than making them deal less damage on the same target
>>544563724Ok, how else can you balance them
I tried my best.
>>544563724I actually like the game to be as complex as possible.t Invoker, Earth Spirit, and Enchantress pos4 main.
>>544562985it literally adds 80% lifesteal retard, on ALL damage you are doing in that moment
>>544564209earth spirit was one of the most braindead simple heroes in the game on release
>>544564203
>>544564203If you're playing gun Doorman you deserve to lose thoughever.
>>544563724I think it's fine, not all heroes are equal so they need different mechanics on their ability. Seven having headshot resistance because of his huge head is another good example of this.
>>544564203people here be like>yeah there's nothing wrong with match time uhh these people deserve to suffer for 48 minutes
>>544560898Never ever since valve is creatively bankrupt and russorcs hate fur kino.
>>544564285yes all 400 of it, that's a lot of HP!
>>544564394He literally has 0 gun items you blind retard
>>544564394colorblind bro...
>>544564394
>>544564416what about krill mo having 2 headshot but ava calico not?
>>544564203What mod is that on your left?Also 33k souls in a 48 minute match lol I hope it was because he ragequit after dying 16 times
>>544564689https://gamebanana.com/mods/621024No. He played the entire match. I'm sure he tried his best too.
>>544564495>>544564501>>544564630I will never admit to fault and instead double down that he deserved to lose for that tranime mod instead.
>>544562519First ban literally went to k*lvin you retarded monkey. You probably abuse this icenigger, which is why you're hyper fixated on drumming up hate for the new heroes.
>>544564630cheat death doorman is wild but i get it
just won a game after our patron was 1 shot from dyingdynamoGODS i kneel
>>544565120bet it got the blood pumping in your loins
>>544565018>4 out of 10 heroes in the match are new>but but kelvin!!!
>>544562519>no drifter>no billyplease learn to at least count to 6 before posting
>>544564203How do you do so much damage as Doorman?
>>544564815these rivals models are so riduclously unfitting on a technical level
>>544563830cooldown, fire rate, projectile speed, trajectory curve, random spread, bounce instead of stick, longer cast backswing, a minor movement or disarm debuff after cast, health cost per cast or per bomb, don't get hit, etc>>544564416this is an example i'm much more okay with, although i'd prefer if it was a passive component of an ability, or part of a roster-wide framework that provided systematised reasons for heroes to have these unique variations on base stats, something that can be intuited or reasoned about instead of having to know that Seven has 25% base crit resistance essentially "because he just does and that's the way it is">>544564209earth spirit is one of my favourite heroescomplexity isn't a pure goodthe most complex thing in the world is noise
>>544565201but shiv and viscous are new heroes too
>>544527050this guy is the definition of delusional. Bebop and Lash are literal boxers, as in they earn their money through dangerous underground fights where they have both won several times.If a chimpanzee can shred a human being to death then imagine what a gorilla can do, now imagine what Mo, a gigantic mole with gigantic claws could do. Victor is physically strong and tall, which is like 70% of what it takes to win a fight at the very least, and the very reason there are several weight categories. Ivy is canonically faster than most of the other characters through gameplay and has claws, all she has to do is keep her distance and claw you a few times until you faint from blood loss from you pushing your own muscles. You probably can't even hurt viscous through punches while he can morph, stretch and sling his arms at you easily, which wouldn't even count as a special power to him. Haze, even if she is a woman, still probably has more combat experience than any of the people on 50/50, and way more than anyone here, and could still put you into a chokehold after hitting you with an open palm to the nose once.what exactly would you do, anon? your iconic lard attack?
Welcome to Whose Fault is it Anyway, where your skills are made up and the score doesn't matter.Let's start today off with an easy one: "Reasons your lane mate says its your fault you lost game"
>>544565425if i was forced to fight against viscous i would just hug with him instead
>>544563545I do wonder if they will release other characters with a cloak type ability or if it will just be Haze forever
>>544564821kek based
>>544565239Landed my bells, and carts, hit sevens big fat face with my gun.
>>544565425>lard attackI'm a bouncer irl I've been in plenty of fights and the list was just for fun. On a side note I spent 3 days trying to find a mountain lion outside my work place people kept talking about because I wanted to fight it.
>>544565425>28% said they couldn't beat a ratempaths baka...
>>544565185retardbro...
the jump pad stun has actually been helping me escape more than getting caughtsince the window for the stun is really short you can either crouch under their line of fire or wait for them to reload or mantle uponce you jump, it's much easier to shoot at the jump pad from above if you lead your shots
>>544563330People are gonna think I'm crazy buying TM but trust me bro. With a base 12 bullets and how hard you/I spam firerate items, it's really good. Sure you spam slide everywhere but it's not enough for how low the base ammo pool is. And that's conditional to your move speed and map geography. You need to be bursty as Drifter and one thing killing your burst is having to reload. You want bullets while your cooldowns are active (trance, burst, surge, kenetic)90%+ ammo and 12% damage goes a long way for 1600. I usually get it after trance and BF but sometimes it's good against squishies as it can result in a kill in a single mag. It's my fleetfoot replacer. If I had to reload here someone would've shown up and this gun Paige lost because she had to reload.
>>544565768why not active reload instead?
>>544565768what if you had purchased a quickly sliver instead?
>bloodletting
How is it, whenever I catch someone alone as Drifter, in OUR jungle, the waves at least half way. SUDDENLY their entire fucking team is here as soon as I catch them. How the fuck do people just teleport two lanes over?
>>544563830Honestly i think if you designed something in a way where the only way to balance it is to sort of gamble on players not landing them all then the entire thing should just be reworked
>>544565949there are telepuertos in the metro and secret shops on both sides of map
>>544565185Disregarding the fact that the other three bans are "legacy heroes", yes. K*lvin is that much of a broken subhuman ape booster, that he genuinely outweighs 4 new heroes being somewhat strong. None of the new heroes have been 1st priority ban in multiple tournaments for months, unlike k*lvin.
>half of the team is made up of most recently released heroes>they're stomping the team that doesn't have themwhy did kelvin do it bros...
>>544566065that take 10 seconds to use not including travel time to get to them and then the fight
>>544565356maybe on planet retard
>>544566239back in my day, the game did not have viscous and shiv. therefore they are new. simple as.
>>544565546Would be pretty stupid since 2 items already do the same thing
>>544566306the game didnt even have lash when i played. also shiv is older than holiday and callico
>>544565872I use rend at the start of the fight or at the end when it comes off cooldown. It doesn't really help since you use it when you have full ammo or when you've already spent your ammo and reloaded. Used to get it when Drifter first came out but it's just not that good on him and Mercurial is ass on him because he'd only have a base of 15 bullets>>544565836That is good too, it's between TM and reload personally
Okay, anon. Without getting any bans and getting completely free say, what's the PERFECT comp?
>>544565182i did the ronaldo SIUUU irl afterwardsthe CLQ PMA method does work, you can just ping your doorman and warden a shitton once you detect they are addicted to 1v6 brools and they will sprout a new set of braincells and win you the game
>>544566464>also shiv is older than holiday and callicoyes calico holliday is new hero too
>>544566065I really miss the teleporters on the side lanes. At least then when my team were suicidal feeding retards I could cover two walkers at once
>>544566464Holliday is pretty old still she's had like 3 husbands and was gonna try to pick up a 4th while in NY ala a conversation with Haze
>>544566523true dynasty warrior is in thread BASED. please admit people to the Deadlock psychiatric hospital in our leader's name
>>544566464Oh yeah? Well the game didnt even have maps when I played
>oh my god...>i get it now...
>>544566509six doormen that send the entire enemy team to the baroness at once
>>544566743I don't, it's a fucking assembly of random dead body parts, you must be desperate
>>544565873I rarely get to activate it while playing Shiv.
>>544566743faggot shit.
>>544566743Valve would NEVER be so based to add a nerdy ginger twink made for 2koma comics.
>>544566509its hard to say because a lot of this depends on who the players on the team are, theres still a lot of individual expression that goes into the drafting, for instance I wouldnt put bebop on a theoretical perfect team, but if jonjon was on the team he would probably be a top 3 pick
>>544566509Kelvin, Pocket, ShivThe other three heroes are irrelevant so it can be any :)
>>5445665097 kelvins and 1 infernus
>>544566676Hey!You don't talk to my wife like that
>>544566523I miss 6.82 MoM S&Y Troll, Sniper, Jugg meta bros...
>>544566509infernus, kelvin, shiv, victor, paige, ivy
>>544566805Or they send one guy six times.
>>544566867haha if victor had sex with paige that'd be really faggy haha
>>544567096faggot cope.
>>544567063this comp gets mogged by pocket vindicta though
>>544565768Drifter should do extra damage against girls
>>544566509mina paige victor doorman kelvin shiv
>>544566523This made my nuts and ass twitch when I pulled it off.
>>544566743>paige is genderbent tooRuined
>>544567315old game.... :(
>>544567315back when you had item slots
>>544565536I picked Mina and my team mate keeps trying to get panty shots in lane
>>544566743
>>544567315>Abrams alive
>>544567836troon art
>>544566336Works fine in dtoa. theres like 10+ invis heroes and 2.5 invis items
>>544567981You need help mate. It's just art.
>>544567579I miss being able to do even a little gun damage as dynamo and mo. >>544567836I don't even want a girl victor mod I just want a mod where Victor actually wears his fucking suspenders. They introduce two characters at the same time and neither are wearing them. >>544567961Nah we won the game, Abrams was slow as fuck and got hyper CC'd thankfully. He was REALLY close though he got up to the staircase on green.
>>544565425Nevermind the grizzly bear, who the fuck thinks they could bean an ELEPHANT in a fight?
>>544567836Do autopsy scars actually go over the breasts line that? I doubt it. Seems like a waste of time for the mortician when they could cut around them
>>544568209I've seen return of the king, if that fag legolas can do it I can too
>>544568209an indian
>>544568217you think the fag who drew that cares?
>>544567836This is weird to me because it's just Victor with boobs. Nothing else is different.
>>544568369Why are you so angry today?
>>544566676That conversation with Haze is not what you think. The receptionist misunderstood something Holliday said and spread misinformation, per the leaked visual novel lines in the game files.
i want to play mira but she gives me dysphoria
>>544568217I mean normal victor has the same scar I didn't even realize it was supposed to be an autopsy scar, I just thought it was a brand.
>>544568740go somewhere else to fulfill your humiliation fetish
>>544568193He saw the chest scars which are already present on the original Victor and a sleeper agent activated
>>544568740average Mina player: https://bsky.app/profile/gamingwcameron.bsky.social/post/3m4e356qik22i
>>544568942>minatroon>bluesky postyeah that fits
>>544567836We need more shirtless women wearing suspenders. It is very important to the game's long term viability
>>544568942I follow this guy on Instagram and his videos feel like ragebait. He must be mentally 5 or 6.
>vyper>haze
>>544568740play doorman instead.
>>544569374Why the fuck do you follow this retard on instagram
>>544569683It's funny. Why are your panties in a twist today
>>544566743>genderbent Vic is still hot>genderbent Paige is still garbage
>>544567096If you had sex with a woman you'd stop being a faggot
>>544569976you are gay
>>544569645but he doesn't give me dysphoria
>>544568668Anon wants to hold smut ''artists'' accountable for their design choices, he's on a mission.
>>544570273just don't play mina, I don't want your ilk in the playerbase.
>>544570162women are demons though
>>544568740Stop playing games at all, delete discord and reddit and go outside>>544570209Stfu Paige, noone cares about your gay fanfiction
>>544570608Kevin seems like such a chill guy to hang out with but if I see him in my game I feel irrational hatred.
>>544570749>Kevin seems like such a chill guyshut the fuck up
>>544570837It comes naturally to me.
>>544570608What would they read about?
>>544568217if you look closely, but like, really closely, you can see that scars go just above the breast tissue so I'd say it's mostly on spot. if anything, i think real autopsy cut would go more in a shape of T not Y though.
>>544567836would
>>544570837Cool it
is decay good against victor
>>544570837>it's time to...heat things up!
>>544572097Why did they kneecap his coolness factor when they redid his portrait?
So is there a best place to team up with non-randoms? From here, a discord, or something else? I don't think I have the mental sanity to deal with random retards anymore, I might burst a blood vessel.
>>544572031Not really unless you're counting his jumpstart usages like some autismo, but even then you'd at best get like 5 seconds of usage. You want antiheal that can be reapplied fast, so healbane or crippling headshot, preferably both in one team.>>544572351Both Infernus and Abrams got ruined with the new portraits, Abrams' current portrait looks like a fatass reddit janny.
>>544572424yeah discord same as any game, we sometimes group queue but it's on eu. there is also always r*ddit if you can hide your power level and tolerate them.
>>544572351I think the new portrait fits his laid back personality better
>>544572031Nah cause it just gets purged later. If you must try to counter early then healbane is better but I prefer to let him farm for 30m then hit him with a focus lens
>>544566743>>544567836Victoria mod when
>>544572351He looks too crazy for a guy who retired from his bad days
>>544566839I use it to get free healing from my mystic regeneration cast proc while doing jungle
Hehehehe...see dat shit? ;D
>>544525470Is there any situation where building crushing fists on drifter is prefferable to just going full gun other than having fun? Should I just wait for the melee rework ((tm) coming soon) before cooking with it?Ascendant+ only replies pls
Infernus used to be hard, but now he's just a bitch, slinging Mary Pickfords to other bitches...
>>544573349hey man, im seeker but crushing fists OP and makes rend do more damagehope this helps
I got a bone to pick with you!
>trophy collector just wonApologize.
>>544573810bug abuse won
>>544573810Is there a reason why Billy seems to be almost always played as a pure tank in pro play? I never see these guys do damage.
>>544574042because he's dogshit and does no damage against people with IQ over room temperature
>>544570837>t. Holiday.
>>544572858That's the point, he's back for one (1) last job...
>>544574042Relies too mucc on melee I guess, not sure why they didn't just pick abrams then since he does both a lot of damage and tanking
>>544573810cant you guys see this entire team comp is centered around setting up Shiv kills
>2025>fov fixed at 75
>>544573810Its op +480 souls per min at max stats. Yoshi fell for the deadlock illuminati psyop where everyone pretends an item is shit until he over buffs it
>>544574218Abrams has a mediocre winrate in pro play and his builds are very expensive.
>>544574190why did they remove this, americans are so weird when it comes to swearing
>>544574302less than 7k damage on a 30 minute game is inexcusable no matter the hero, comp or build
>>544574218abrams' only good ability has a 40 second cooldown
>>544574218Yeah that's what irks me too, if you gonna build him as a pure tank then you may as well just play Abrams.Sure he isn't going to be a DPS god like a Infernus but if you build him properly his lifestrike/spirit snatch can do disgusting damage in his out of lane powerspike.
>>544574391Look at any other comp game and 99% of the time hes a first pick
most retard-proof heroes>mina>viscous >MnK>pocket>kelvin>paige
>>544574472Unltil you max it in the first 7 minutes
>>544574621>Kelvin has to get first round banned every gamegreat balancing
Cdr maxx vinny is hilarious>10s stake with 3s duration>20s flight with 30s duration >8s crow with 6s duration>15s snipeAnd that doesnt even include the witchmeme
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>544574621Yes but that's changing now that they're realizing those truths about him.
abrams is this game's axe
>>544575262what a retarded comparisonabrams is blue, axe is red
Is it reddit and/or millennialcore that I think characters saying things like shit or asshole make them feel more alive
>>544575008Now how much damage are you even doing
>>544575467NoIt's the Helluva Hotel thing where characters swear constantly for no reason and use terms like "tea" unironically that's millennialfaggotry
>>544575467its neither of those things, its just zoomercore to try to sterilize every piece of media
>>544568740Cant you just say "Mina is hot and makes my dick hard" like a normal person?
yeah they already lost
>>544575262would be funny if they buffed book to be an execute since the windup is so long
>>544575492Who care? Vinny is a supportThe answer is none btw but you can still hit 850 with a snipe hs so not as bad as you would think
>>544568740Lash gives me dysphoria because I’ll never be him
Anthro fox/wolf/deer succubus who gets a sprint passive to run on all 4s, and an ult where she throws off her overcoat revealing a modest bra that's a 3 second channel aoe charm. There I saved deadlock
>>544573810nigger where have you been? It got buffed, it wasn't good when you said it was good and they made it stronger so now it's good.
>Click on a random yamato video>It starts with some grown ass man crying about a pro player using nigger and acting like he kills babies for a full 5 minutesI don't get how someone like this exists but props to ABL for making this dude seethe.
>>544575008
>>544576384Make her bisexual and you have a deal
>>544576501>Basedman>Door Hitler>The giNger KillerDid I miss any?
>>544576642I'd settle for bi curious towards extremely attractive women and milfs.
>top damage and objective damage as Mo because everyone else is retarded feels bad man
>>544576501Link to vid i live for shitty edrama
I NEED Ivy to use stone form on my face
>>544576501to be fair these guys are trying to build a "brand" on an already large gamble that this game pops off so it's objectively retarded behavior to be throwing around slurs if i was in their position id be on goo boy mode
>>544576938https://youtu.be/qyPhsFxnc_c
>>544566509kelvin, shiv, pocket, paradox, calico, mo krill
>>544575262Axe was aids in lane for melee carries. Abrams isn't too bad in lane.
>>544577086>one chance at a cowboy>we get the lamest one possibleF U C K
>>544577020You’d just die
>>544577197If Holliday was a black man I'd probably play her (him)
>>544577197/our/ Cowboy(Girl) is cute
>>544569353*rattles cage bars*
>>544577197That’s my fuarking Sheriff, buddy watch your mouth
>>544577197I love her, fuck you
Holliday looks too clean and her big ass scarf looks really stupid and I think it's only there for le jiggle bones whenever she bounce pads
>>544577513why does she look like a beaner here
>>544577197What's wrong with her?She's a cowboy who's sad and wants revenge and is also hot
>>544577224Die of happiness as her massive Cula crushes my skull and my final image is of her perfectly crafted vagina.
>>544573269Favourite voice line in the game honestly.
>>544577197That's the goat. Based womanlet widower sheriff. One of the toughest characters across the whole fucking cast.
>named sanya sniper>doesnt snipe
Does debuff resistance also work on getting parried?
>>544577469>>544577513>misses 5 shots before landing a headshotdas rite, dont mess with the law.
>>544576938Its the latest FredTheFinch video>>544577039You say that but this game is literal years away from release so the pro scene will always be a joke. Anyone taking it seriously and treating it like a job should be mocked, if only for their poor life choices. Plus expecting some kazhakanstan slav to give a shit about your stupid cultural no-go words is funny when he lives half way across the globe in the middle of the siberian desert.
>>544577736Does this game have a testing mode?
>>544577736not anymore
>>544577690>gun missing from holster?
>>544577964How do I get parried in testing mode?
>>544577892My point is that THEY believe it's going to pop off regardlessly of how likely actually is, so their behavior is retarded nigger ape tier themselves.
>>544577770Start running pal
>>544578030You buy debuff remover on the punch bot
>>544577623She's voice by one and sounds like one. She's got a texmex ass accent. I think it suits her and wouldn't care if she's half a bean or something.
>>544570837That wasn't very nICE of you
I can't believe doc holliday transitioned and the community is totally ok with it
>>544578003Its symbolic for solving your problems with friendship or something
>>544577690she's a bumpkin
>>544572351Valve downgraded all portaits be making them come from an actual model rather than having these drawn stylised portraits>>544572469>Both Infernus and Abrams got ruined with the new portraitsExactly. But at least Geist got better.
>>544577020
>>544578452>downgradedI'd rather have literal representations than fall into the league of legends issue where they do insane art pieces and the models look like shit. People paying 30$ for a splash art because the skins look like nothing
>>544578003Thought this was her after being arrested for whatever reason
gg
I was just trying to find a pic of Macomb to meme about and turns out the inventor of Monopoly is from there
>>544578190ew
>>544578452It's funny because Abrams' second portrait was pretty good but then they gave him the worst of everyone. I really like Bebop's new portrait though. The robot not having an idle animation and no dynamic pose or whatever is pretty funny.
>>544577714He's a streamsniper
kek wtf
>>544578661You know you can have both? Portaits exist in the game only while you can see the hero model while choosing it in your roster before starting a game. Or guess what else, Deadlock is not LoL, you aren't buying heroes and you can practice them instantly.
>abrams gets picked>instant lossKWABBB (kek what a big blue bitch)
>small teams picking the same heros running the same buildsHoly SHIT its a fucking ALPHA where is the gimmick strats? Its been like a year since 6 rescue beams, everyone takes themselves way to seriously
>>544578452Most old ones looked shit they were just staring blankly forward like bebop except they weren't robots
>>544565536"Because I was dead all game."
>>544578806No fucking way you're serious, his second portrait is the worst one he got.
>>544568740Sorry to hear that anon, not to sour grapes it or anything but I don't think you're missing much. Mina isn't fun to play. Join us Abramschads over at the winning table.
>>544575467did they even say asshole in the 30s-50s?
God I hate the generic placeholder something gun kelvin, goo man and warden has
>>544579242No fucking way YOU'RE serious he looked like a literal gigachad
>>544579147Abrams' old portrait was pure kino
>>544579382He's literal homob8
>>544565536>Me play Ivy, partner is Billy.>Billy hard commits, I back him up. We both die.>Billy hard commits again, I back him again. We both die.>at this point I decide to not help Billy.>Billy hard commits
Holy fuck does Mirage do literally anything in lane? I have not seen that motherfucker do anything but stare and take potshots that do 3 damage.
>>544579757he used to be a menace
>>544579510You're the only one who thinks that way when looking at Abrams
>>544579382DSLs
>>544579510WWE is also homobait? Gyms are homobait??? NIGGER!!!
>>544579757he dominates lane if the player isn't shit>>544579842still is, it's just not effortless anymore
>>544579919yeah?
>>544579919He has fag face and fag design. You have to be underageb& to not see it
>>544579757The secret is that he gets a stacking damage buff every time you scream FOR THE DJINN into your mic
>still no big titty muscle girl Abrams mod
>>544579757He might be the strongest laner
>equal souls>I'm warden running spirit>calico running spirit>last stand activated and I've trapped her with claw>shooting her down and I die first>both from full healthfuck warden is ass
>>544579382His eyes look weirdly slanted and the face is weirdly zoomed compared to everyone else's. It looked horrendous ingame.>t. spammed Abrams for few months straight until new heroes got released
>>544580314in october last year, hes barely holding onto b tier now
>>544580418Hybrid/Mixed Warden is way better from the few games I played with that build, ult build is a meme unless the enemy team are retarded broolers and your team will actually play with you once you start your ult.No idea about a pure gun build but I dislike it purely just because you're then not using your kit to their best potential.
>>544579510No, he is a meb8 because I'm attracted to him and noone else gets to do so, homos gtfo
>>544578874okay /dlg/>you are approached by a mysterious entity>the entity claims that it can grant you infinitum (secret elo above eternus) VI gameplay skill and be a god at the game basically>BUT you must be wearing a cosplay of whatever hero you are currently playing as to receive said skilldo you take the offer?
>intel dropping night shitso it's over for them?
>>544580525What changed? He definitely suffers in the duo setup and the scarabs are kind of ass now but mark is strong as ever. If you have a lanemate that can clear then he will just bully
You can't refute this
>>544581163>vindictusuhhhhmm.. sure
>>544581328STICK 'EM
>>544581328I like some of Vinny’s
>>544581328doorman and mokrill up one tier pocket one down
>>544581170are they? I thought they were relatively popular (around 2k viewers) and they only had to spend like $1k for the prize pool
>>544581328Mostly agree except talon and bebop should be at the top
>>544581328Your brain is gone, Worst list ever
>>544581163>mostly play Victor and WraithEh sure
>>544581328SOFTENING 'EM UP
>>544581170According to what?
>>544581778>>544581539they were just talking about how this is their last week of intel's money and they're looking for a new sponsor
>>544581328KNIFE'S OUT
>>544581328I ALWAYS GETS MY MANS!GAMPA! GUIDE MY HAND!
>>544582152THEY’LL BE FEEIN THAT!
This rank distribution is pure ass and such a retarded decision, I don't know what compelled them to do such a thing. A lot of Youtubers are sucking a lot of dick playing the game now and it shows when they are streaming the game.
>>544581328the streets are for suckas!
>gay predictionwhat player do you think stat locker will rank in order?1)pocket2) dynamo3) warden 4) minaStat locker takes 10 years to populate so i'll update this when it does.
>>544581328Let me... sHOw Y'alL how it's DOOONE.
Let's see what this dick can do.
>>544582582>The streets of Osaka!
DA HUNT BEGINS
I keep forgetting how much this stinks
>game starts>mid starts whining about his game lagging>DCsHow much of a shitbox do you have if fucking Deadlock is lagging on your PC?Like genuinely. Waste of my fucking time
>>544582878Deadlock is demanding compared to other f2p games lol
>>544582878AND he also ruined my 15W1L match historyFAGGOT NIGFERNUS
>>544582878It's an early access game, shit like this can randomly happen to anyone
>>544582878lagging usually refers to latency so the anon probably has some shitternet going on at the time and it cut out
>>544564203this happens to me frequently. lost count of how many times there was someone completely new on my team.
>>544582728dear god abrams...
>>544583118No he said it was his game and that he needed new drivers
>>544581328IN A FEW SECONDS IT’LL ALL BE OVER
>kelvin finally picked>fucking loseslmao
we haev you now
ALCHEMICALF L A S K
>>544583407Dropping some of the hardest lines in the game with that goofy ass model. He needs an update asap
arcanistxisters...
InBlouse when?
>>544583881>gun geistBased.
>>544583881looooool
>>544583881>geist beating nigfernusHUH BUH WUHUH
>>544583581he needs buffs clearly.
>>544583581It's a weird coinflip because they also picked Vyper and Vyper always loses. And Abrahams had Shiv and Mo. Shiv specially is on a Godlike winstreak right now.
>>544581328>no good repeatable linesELLO ELLO ELLOBLEEDNO SURVIVORS!TICK TICK TICK!
Concerns of the deep? I'm kill yourself
>>544581328>viscuous not in reddit tier
>>544581328>THEY DONT MAKE 'EM LIKE ME
>>544581328>Vyper not even on the list
WAKE UPINHOUSE TIMETM2SKTM2SKTM2SKTM2SK
>>544585105um
>>544581328>*whistles*
we are here
>>544585271why* are we here
>>544585271Kinooooooo
>>544585229I don't mind most Vinny quotes despite her being a cunt to most of the cast, but I can't stand her whistles for some reason.
>>544584938Why does that tranny have to make 20 different viscous and mcginnis builds
>>544585175ill be able to join i half an hour
>>544585405Most of the characters are cunts to most of the cast
>>544585438all the ginnis builds are fucking trash too
>>544585550every single female character at least likes Victor; quite a few try to get in his pants
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SKTM2SKjoin up for inhouse
>>544585781Well yes he’s incredibly hot
>>544585405wouldnt you be mad if you were burned alive for being a witch? she had a good reason to just hate the world
Mods still fucked?
>>544585812Mind if an A6 noob speak some chinese?
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SKTM2SK+6 for inhouse
>>544585550Vinny is just an overall unpleasant person.She can't go 5 seconds without mentioning that she got murdered, she feels one note...which is probably intentional given that she is literally a vengeful spirit. Still boring, feels like there is nothing to her personality beyond being bitter at the world.My favorite interactions she has are between her and GT and her with Haze where Haze calls out her plan as being poorly thought out.
>>544581328KUDZU BOMB
we appear to be in a... deadlock.
>>544579382The expensive haircut and overly trimmed beard make him look too faggy, they should scruff him up a little.
>>544586368that abrams looks like howie mandel from little monsters
>>544586646looks like spongebob
>>544586646spongebob ass mofo
>>544586646
>>544586748>>544586772Yeah..
>>544586448Cuckpoo bomb
>thought bebop was stupid>Decide to play him for fun>Hit like 80% of hooks>Can go 1v1 with people after like 20m>Seeing the fun now>Get on today>Abrams/Bop vs Calico/Yamato>Absolutely perfect matchup>Hook them like 10 times in a row>When they have ults, blow them defensively to avoid hooks>However>Abrams is literally retarded and misses his charge every single time>Uses his charge to run away more than to engage, LITERALLY does not ult a single time the entire match>Lane stalemates and is boring as fuck>Next game>Mcginnis/Bop vs Infernus/Mina>Predictably they both just sit on stairs plinking all lane phase>Manage to get some really good hooks still>Mina bats away every time, Infernus runs away every time>Few times I catch them off CD>Mcginnis has 0 awareness and never walls or shoots them and they just walk away>Lane stalemates and is boring as fuckAh yes now I remember why I didn't like him. In order to have fun on non-carries your teammates have to be anything other than completely fucking braindead
>>544585932afraid so
>>544586448>Yamato laning with Ivy
oh mein gott bruh
>>544587093looks delicious
>>544587134sinclair rework when
>>544587134otp crew
>>544587197eventually
>>544587134kawaii ;3
>>544587134nice throw comp
>>544587134Would sinclair be better or worse if they could steal ally ults?
>>544587017i put the odds of you never using your mic at 75%
>>544587357betterthe rest of his abilities still need tweaking though
>>544587357way better>copy whoever your initiator is>double it up before they can recover from the first one
Need 2 for inhouseTM2SKTM2SKTM2SKTM2SK
>>544587134really bizarre that they had Sinclair as the final pick when the other team doesn't even have good ults to steal
NEED 1 FOR INHOUSETM2SKTM2SKTM2SK
>>544587357fucking broken, imagine doubling dynamo ult, then either one gets refresher. absolute cancer
>>544587410many such cases
>>544587357>Would sinclair be better or worse if you could plan a build around haveing four dynamo ults a teamfight.
>>544538767>While Calico is an actual killer she doesn't really use a gun.Kinda late but it is stated that calico was the shooter at Arin FairFax's (Pocket) assasination
>>544587410If you're trying to make the case that you need a mic to be successful, or that you can't expect your lane partner in your 15x50 lane to react to the most obvious shit in the world, you must be as retarded as the Abrams/gin
43 minute game btw
>>544588145ggs was me
>>544588128you dont have to be, but if you notice your teammate is a drooling retard that doesnt react to anything, talking helps (but your are socially awkward so you dont)
kawaii crew is getting raped holy shit
>>544588395>chose throw picks>throwomg how could this happen
>>544588395they trolled in the draft
>>544588395just like before, they're just high rank amateurs vs scrim veterans
>>544588395>20k soul diff at 10 min jesus
>>544588885lmaohow does that even happen
>>544588395melee creeps is simply the better but also>sinclair and dynamoin competitive they are literal jobbers.people love to overhype dynamo's ult but the truth is dynamo doesn't do anything well. everything requires multiple boons and items of investments when other characters even supposed hard carries, are better than him right of the bat and at worst better than him with minimum or way less investment than what he requires.just turn him into a tank that has useful abilities, it is all he needsSinclair ahs a few good thing going for him like his bolts and stealing ults but that is match up dependent
kawaii crew might actually be /dlg/
>>544589342>could do well but scared of failure so they squander any opportunity to struggle and improveyeah probably
>>544589649hey now. i don't squander my opportunities to struggle. i'm actually quite good at struggling
the raped
>>544589903BUT MIRAGE BAAAAAD
>>544589903>dont pick the broken heroes>loseamazinc
>>544589971>dynamo bad even doe he got the most kills on the team
>>544589903>39 kills, vs one kill>from the dynamolmao
>>544589207As long as dynamo is able to give everyone a free pocket satchel, he is not allowed to be good. Giving him kelvin stats would make him the most broken hero in the game.
>>544588395KC is a filler team right now because the other teams that could potentially be 3rd(poshys team that self destructed when maht left, lomeines team that self destructed because they all hate each other, and uncs who have real jobs and shit and cant commit to anything because of it)
Average inhouse experience
kick out raiva he's afk
>>544590934>playing Kelvin and Visc in the inhouse gameNo shame niggers
>>544590934>kelvinlmao what a fucking faggot nigger
what the hell do I buy for 5 dollars on steam
niggers can we please stop griefing the inhouse niggers swap off billy niggers
>>544591529sticking 'em
>>544591373My whole build was just something stupid I randomly thought of.t. Viscous
>>544591529>>544591263oh nevermind he's just being a little bitch because he doesn't wants duplicate heroes
>duplicate heroes disabled>3 bily's
>>544591614No one wants dupe heroes you stupid fucking retards
>>544591614>>544591263LEAVE RAIVA ALONE
>>544591608yeah nothing wrong with flubber, I get the kelvin complaint though.
can't we just have one funny match of shiv vs billy come on man.
>>544591715raiva always criesHe blames dupes for imbalanced matches because he finds it hard to cope with his skill level
>>544589903I predicted they'd get 0 kills. I was so close to being right.
>>544591797not allowedYou vill be stomped playing a normal deadlock gameYou vill have a match worse than pubs
>>544591797No dupe heroes is always garbage and it's always because you're too dogshit at the normal game so you force dupes to cope.It's fun for like 15 seconds and then it breaks the game and everyone leaves, it's always like this, stop being retarded.
shark tits can you pls pick
>>544591961>play troll haze>they go gun kelvin
>>544592046Shut up nigger I'm shy
>>544592034>talking about skill>in a custom match for 0 mmr???
>>544590934Imagine picking Kelvin on a fucking inhouse and screenshotting it.
>>544592034you are the only one that leaves faggot
>>544588476>>544588519Look at it from the perspective of the players on KC.Why play meta and lose? Might as well play differently and lose so you can get on the front page of reddit. I'm pretty sure most of these guys stream, too. Anyone but the top teams doesn't have much of an incentive to play their best, especially if the only reason for them being their was because of the next best teams imploding earlier.
>>544588206Sent by Valve, I assume? To stop my 15 game winstreak?Who sent you? Was it Gabe?
>5 games in a row where another lane feeds so hard i get harassed by someone who is 10k souls above me the entire matchim so fucking tired man
does mina have like a 100% pick/ban rate
I don't even know how matches like this happen.Was this my fault? The entire team's fault? A smurf team?We have higher ranks on average and everyone was using comms.I don't get it.
>>544593937every lane failed, it's just MM not being accurate
>>544593937honestly, in my experience the people that talk all the time are bad at the gamenothing in this game needs voicecomms, you can ping everything and most issues you have can be solved by taking one look at the minimapsadly there are so many retards playing this game that dont have the ability to look at the bottom right part of their screen so you end up pinging for def or push and nothing happens
>>544562713sorry, snep disease. It's terminal.
when are we getting an anti-barrier item paige is so fucking aids
>>544594489Im surprise we dont have an anti-headshot item already
>>544594489it already existscapcitor :^)
PAIGE POWER, BABYPAIGE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>544582661Was way off the ballactual results>op delivered
>>544590934this was as enjoyable as the 40's-90's historical periodso was the second game too actuallyi couldn't see the patron's health bar i thought we were safe so i didnt back to base in time
>>544594786You didn't do shit
>>544594489They should add an interaction where a Vyper player can SA Paige if they're getting too annoying
need 2 TM2SK
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SKTM2SKNeed 1 for inhouse
ggs ladsdot drifter was more useful than I expected
>>544594938MY TEAMATES WOULD DISAGREE KEK
>>544594891>12 0 10>but I'm not allowed funny dupes>>544594938She literally kept me alive for retarded shoves are you fucking stupid? Do you not know how supports work?
>>544594938Paige makes her orbiters unkillable. Why do you think she has the highest winrate in the game across every rank? DuoGODS run this game
>>544595075he's seeker
billys such an useless piece of shit why would you pick this in pro
>>544595316this but kelvin
>>544595027>>544595075>literally a win more hero she made 0 plays
>>544595217And I'm Ass six what the fuck is your point?
>>544595345you should be executed just for even thinking of posting this
>>544595472he lost every game
>>544595412that he's too retarded to understand how useful paige is.
>>544595472no hes rightbuff kelvin yoshi pls
>losing badly all game>never actually lose because the doorman on my team keeps carting people through a door that goes to our fountain and stopping their advances into our base>we had more gun characters so we outscaled them and wonthat shit was retarded.
>>544595547Oh alright you were agreeing with me okay we're chilld.
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SKNEED ONE FOR INHOUSE(1)UNO
>Warden sucks up all of the farm on the map for the first 20 minutes>buys juggernaut first 6kGET ME OUT OF THESE FUCKING GAMES
What causes people to feed? Dying even a lot of times doesn't equal something bad; not always. Purely from a perspective of "feeding". What compels people to do? Genuinely how shit do you have to be at the game to die so often? Like there is just so point in their mind at all that they think "damn I'm dying a lot"? Nothing like that? Anything like that at all? I've died 2-3 times and think "fuck me I gotta stop dying, need to be more defensive and smart". Yet I have teammates who die 7+ times in lane phase; sometimes I have teammates who die in literally less than 1 minute of game time. How do you do that? Because I see it as nothing as intentional even if it's done unintentionally. You know what I mean? If are bad at the game and die a lot and aren't doing it purposefully, yet it's still happening, that makes it intentional. Because you have thousands of options to just... not do that and yet it happens often.
>>544595768mental illness
>>544594938>want to attack me?BARRIER>want to use your ult on me?BARRIER>trying to attack my teammatesBARRIER>it's mid game and you trying to attack me?BARRIERGUARDIAN WARD>I have maxed my barrier skillBARRIERBARRIERBARRIERDIVINE BARRIERIf the game went longer I would have bought echo shard and Divina barrier.also doorman used his ult on me one time and I only survived because I popped guardian ward.
>>544595753>Dynamo teammate literally never uses ult until his teammates are dead>the few teammates around/alive when he's ulting don't even shoot the enemyI was stunned. I don't believe these people are real humans. They must be AI or like a hamster playing.
All active items needs cooldowns of 60-180 seconds, but with their duration being longerThis is objectively correct
>Drifter's 1 does melee damage, with bonus spirit damage in the inner half of the coneshouldn't it be the opposite?>>544596290>10-15 second long unstoppable/vamp burst/infuserno
>>544595753I was assured by this very thread that juggernaut was the ultimate counter to the m1gger menace?
>>54459629047s calico ult50 second paradox ult50 second mo ultSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>544537845>anti-carry>carry just waltz out or takes a small amount of damageYou really activated your almonds with that one
>>544596458... and other things seekers believe
>>544596290>erm isn't it a bit problematic that the game has strong mechanics?nah
>>544537845that's not george & floyd combo, though.
@544596290what is it with leagueshitters being so confident about things they are wrong about?
>>544535734More honestI could take any of the women and maybe the little fire nigger; he's scrawny
>lash doesnt show up when i say im ganking his lane and continues jungling>he buys trophy collector >still jungling all game
>>544537329Why do people like spirit snatch? You get some free spirit damage in, but is the buff/debuff REALLY that much?
holy fuck every time a match snowballs against me i want to uninstall but when you get to snowball it gives you such a feeling of power
>>544545721It's really not that much. It's just getting use to all the instant ability spam, which sucks, by the way.I think almost abilities need to have longer wind-ups and reloading should take longer.
>mirage one of the most op m1s in the game right now>also the most fucking boringi hate icefrog balancing i hate icefrog balancing i hate icefrog balancing
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>>544596916Insane item that brings really good value on melee hybrid characters. I usually build it on abrams even if I go gun because siphon life is too good of a fucking ability.
>>544597475people also still cannot comprehend the value of stealing the enemies damage and their resistances, like your team is also getting amped damage against that target, and that target cant even fight back
They nerfed his gun and globe.Kelvin is fine now.
this item should give you more bullet velocity, it keeping the High Velocity Round stat while being a 6400 item is retarded
What even are the stat hardcaps? I'm assuming at some point there's diminishing returns then it screeches to a half.
hang all kevin downplayers from a tree
>>544597758your shop investment buffs dumb ahh nigga
>>544597895What are you even saying
>>544598051Go into the sandbox.Open the shop.Look in the bottom left corner. Figure it out.
>>544598051you have abrams gifs saved but don't know what the shop investment buffs are?
>>544596568Active spam is low brow gameplay It just makes an already smash-keyboard game into more of a smash-keyboard game.
>>544598273name an active item thats smash keyboard gameplay, Ill wait
>>544598273buy an active to counter their activetard
>more options = smash keyboard hurr durrway for outing yourself as being no higher than seeker, retard.
>>544598167600 hours.I just play the game. I never did bots. I never practice anything.
>>544598442post your rank and games played
I just bought Phantom Strike for the first time ever on Mo & Krill.Holy fuck what the hell is this hero? You can instantly disable someone at stupid range for a retarded amount of time while dealing damage to them.
>>544598405The options are the same; the frequency is not.Just like an ult, it would make using them more thoughtful rather than smashing.
>>544598571I noticed you didnt name any activescould that be because you are a clueless retard
>>544597434at heart drifter is nothing but a silly clown
they could make this a 3200 and it would still be very good
>>544598547Try building maj leap with phantom strike and embrace stupidity.
>>544598783they should make a better version of it 3200 and make vacuum grenade 3200 without the hex effect
>>544597032Neither are ideal, matches should be barely squeeked out fighting the entire time. A true test of skill. Not won because some dude bullies the same tard over and over for 40 minutes.
>>544591373>>544591413>>544592185Get raped by Gun Kelvin niggers
ggs, sorry but I have to leave
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SKNeed 1 for inhouse
>>544598783Hell no, the item is the only reason Calico and Mina are THEORICALLY killable before 20 min.
>>544599154cant right now, making a.i porn
>>544598571Items aren't supposed to be ults. Stop going full retarded gorillanigger on shiv/calico/whatever and maybe you'll stop seething heavily every time someone hexes on you.
new bread?
>>544599948No sourdoughDough dough bread sucks ass
>>544600326Sourdough is an acquired taste, like semen.
>>544599176i didnt say they should make it a 3200
>>544599289proofs?
>>544600326>Dough dough breadThat is the weirdest auto-correct I've ever had
>>544600962blue board
>bought curse + decay versus victor>every time he tried to tard walk into my team he meltedehehahahaeughahHAHAHAGUAGHA
reminder that you were psyoped to believe gunman was bad and this is still post nerf
not even comp players are using mina's floaty umbrella function, that sure was nothing, huh?
>>544602557anyone who thought gunman was bad was legitimately retarded considering he was doing 800 damage a fucking bullet
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SKTM2SKneed 2 for inhouse
dotards are laughing at us
>>544602576? You can see them do it at nigthshift, also of course it was nothing it was just for sovl.
>>544602778dotards are third worlders I dont care what they do
>>544602557no one thought that
i just want this game to be released and feature complete already
>>544603196>>544603196>>544603196Migrate to a better place
>>544581328BILLYYYYYTIME FOR A MISDIRECTIONSENDING CROWSMINA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RISE
