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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8785 - Religious Vector Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailer
https://youtu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE

>Sonic Rumble arrives this November
https://x.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1978491359452364988

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OCs:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixels:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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What was his problem?
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THE thread.
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I like this thread better
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Duo can keep his Aifaggot commission thread. This is the real thread.
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Yup, yup, fucking YUP.
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>>544860379
he was too based
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>>544860662
Stop making these.
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>>544860662
Continue making these.
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>>544861015
kek
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So what Sonic related things did you do on Halloween?
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>>544861047
Eat a chilidog
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>>544861047
...Nothing.
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>>544861047
I dressed up as Tails and handed out candy.
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>>544860596
Fukck off Shitshy you arent funny
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>>544861143
You’re posting in the shitposter’s den. Cut the crap already and move here.
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>>544861204
This.
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>>544861204
It’s funny though
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>>544861402
Frontiers 2 will be good, but only if they scrap Fails.
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>>544861441
Tails makes faggots like you seethe all day.
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>>544861490
Cope, Failsbitch.
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>>544861528
I never brought up Tails, retard.
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>>544861594
>defending BITCHails
NOT in MY thread.
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>>544861757
Go shove a cock up your ass.
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>>544861402
is knuckles the hardest character to draw?
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>>544861828
Not by a long shot.
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>>544861815
>gay fantasies
As expected from a Failscuck.
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>>544861938
The only faggot ITT is the one who can't stop thinking of Tails.
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>>544862037
You fucking wish.
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>>544860453
It didn’t take 25 years for that, retard.
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>2 threads
Understood, today is another shitty drama day?
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>>544862575
Duo is using the other thread to spam his ai gens.
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>>544862851
Sex
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>the mainline doesn’t want her
>Crossworlds doesn’t want her
Who will take her after IDW dies?
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>>544863206
This is IC.
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>>544863521
kek keep making more
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Need more Eggman-themed mechs.
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>>544863632
Kek my fucking sides!
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>>544863521
>>544863632
You see this shit getting spammed is why nobody is using this thread
It's kinda funny the first 2 or 3 times
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>>544863783
Says the fag coming from a thread spamming ai gens and comic girls.
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Wanna see something kino?
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>>544863129
Ew a monkey!
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Sonic wins again.
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MY FAVORITE GAME IN THE FRANCHISE!
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>>544862632
I thought he went away for good but i guess that's why we've got a lot of shitflinging about krack lately, besides fuckshy being butthurt.
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>be me
>watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O0Jl5nBLDw
>"that laugh is familiar"
>"sounds Robuttnik in the very old Sonic cartoon"
>check comments
>"his laugh is based on the cowardly lion from that Wizard of Oz"
...huh. Okay?
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Kishimoto will save us.
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>>544864417
I'm starting to hate the japanese, they are prime slop producers.
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>>544864387
Okay.
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>>544864302
Butthurt about what?
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>>544864519
Cool.
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>>544864543
butthurt about gigi although krack did absolutely little since a lot of layoffs happened everywhere in america over insensitive comments. And Gigi wasn't even fired.
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>>544864710
I am butthurt about Twitter not doing anything actually not Krack.
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>>544864715
I like this one.
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>>544852272
>It fluctuates between games. Creams ear length is one of those most inconsistent parts of her design.
LONGER IS STRONGER.
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>>544864926
What the fuck am I looking at?
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>>544864417
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>>544865018
Mighty. Sonic Mania. What are you so confused about?
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I don't know who Even Stanley is, but damn, he makes a lot of shitposters very, very angry.
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>>544864752
Whatever helps you sleep at night, breadtuber faggot. You shitted up this place multiple times just to moralfag about her.
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>>544864926
holy baby mode
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>>544864218
It doesn't feel like he's winning...
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Sonic’s redeem cock
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>>544865104
She moralfags all the time. I would not care if she stuck to posting about Sonic.
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>>544865150
We won by not being dead like Crash Bandicoot.
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>>544865212
Like she comes in here to bring up her moral issues and then I respond.
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>>544865273
No you come here and start off-site drama nobody asked for.
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>>544865357
I don't remember the last time I did that.
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His year is on the way.
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>two threads
you're fucking awesome, make more
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>>544865428
Deserves it more than Miles Fails Prower the do nothing.
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>>544865406
>i don't remember
Of course, it's never convenient.
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>>544865593
Oh yeah that is not real I can prove it if you want.
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>>544865619
That is not real although that thread is a shitshow of people bashing krack?
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>>544865705
Yeah it is not.
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>>544865772
prove it
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>>544865807
This is the wrong font for discord.
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>>544865875
What a retarded cope.
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>>544865981
I mean do you have any evidence this is real? Who shared this?
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>>544865882
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>>544866024
>i can prove it
>uuh it's a different font even though it's gg sans like discord
>anyways do you have more proof
Unintelligent to the bone.
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why doesn't sonic rip orbot and cubot limb from limb
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>>544865538
I'm sorry, I just can't take this ship seriously anymore. It comes across as completely forced
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>>544860379
A supreme creature polluted by the mere presence of lesser others
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>>544866267
Yeah there is nothing else I can prove beyond this because it is not real.
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>>544866267
It's a standard for chat messages, that search bar is cope. You're a laughing stock.
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>>544866410
Search bar is cope? There is no message on discord of me saying this.
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>>544865063
I'm confused that:
1) he seems to change direction mid-hurt
2) he seems to land in the spikes facing the same way, but get sent forward the third time
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>>544866136
I want to rip sonic limb from limb, but in a lewd way.
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>>544866456
That thread speaks alone, no matter the gaslighting you come up with lmao.
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>>544866531
But Krack gets attacked all the time
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attacking krack's pussy with my penor
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>>544866595
Why do you guys post shit like this man it freaks me out
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>>544866473
The player holds right the first two times if you pay attention. The third one, the player is holding left the whole time. What direction he flies in depends on what direction you're holding.
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>>544866640
it's supposed to just be for funsies
sorry
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>>544866674
How come Mighty always faces left when he's hurt?
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>>544866574
by you, yes.
You say so much bullshit anyone can easily see through it.
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>>544866136
They’re not worth the energy.
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>>544860453
>(silver fans in a corner, praying to an iizuka shrine)
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My wife fiona.
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Oh my god.

Fiona is just Surge for Tailsfags
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>>544867134
there was so much potential with tails fixing up auto fiona
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>>544867234
Fiona is fiona.
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>>544867242
Here
https://archiveofourown.org/works/71701886/chapters/186985931#workskin
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>>544867565
You just want a tsundere you can redeem
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>>544867571
cream takes the moral high ground in bed
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>>544867110
Rivals already exists.
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>>544867593
No i hate redeeming people, i want sexy tails antihero
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When Vanilla isn't around, Amy has to take over.
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>>544867584
neat
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>>544867615
What does bunk beds have to do with anything?
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I'm glad you're still reasonable.
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>>544869083
'ge 'x
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i had too much sugary candy and feel nauseous
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So let's discuss Shaggy Rogers X Surge.
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>>544869480
cringe selfinsert for failgirls that want to pretend shaggy would love them
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>>544869584
>wrinkles appear when you bend or twist
Does it?
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>>544860192
I'm the anon who's been trying to push out comic fags from this general. You know what? I give up. It was fun trying to do that, but the weird Sally AI fag ruined it with their dogshit art.
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Watching 28 Days Later again, great film plus watching it from telly with headphones makes the audio hit so much more but uhhh can't really think how to make it relevant to Sonic by saying which Sonic character would be who suppose or a hypothetical Sonic cast surviving a rage virus scenario.
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>>544870217
Don't say "their". It's not even their art.
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>>544870301
Just read metal virus.
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>>544870217
How did you expect this to play out in a fandom where game purists are outnumbered by every other faction
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Why does Amy’s crush need to be hidden?
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>>544870591
Sonic likes Amy now pretty openly.
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>>544870591
love is evil
you will live in the pod
you will eat the bugs
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>>544870671
Nope, in Crossworlds he's clearly closer to Tails and he flirts back to Rouge with quite a heavily implicative line. He talks to Amy like to a below average friend in comparison.
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>>544870868
Not in the Japanese version.
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>>544870341
>Someone actually recommending I read something from IDW
That's a new one I must admit
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>>544870956
I do not recommend it but it is either that or Sonic Zombies by Balena Productions and Metal Virus might be better actually.
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>>544870217
The amount of people here that primarily talk about the games is so small that they can instantly namefag each other
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>>544871046
I'll give Metal Virus this that I do like how they work around making it family friendly but still grim by making it a liquid metal infection like the T-1000 mixed with Dawn of the Dead and I actually do like the Deadly Six being the main baddie of the arc but yeah it's got major issues. Plus to be honest if I did my own spin on the Sonic cast but they start getting picked off if have very different casualties and survivors in mind lol.
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I think her ears should reach her feet personally I want her to have big ass Dumbo ears.
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Here's how I'm choosing to light my money on fire this morning; also, 'Echoes of Dimensions' is such a 2005 Deviantart title lol.
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>>544871738
YESSSSSSSSS
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>>544870217
I'm really confused, what the hell is your guys problem with Duo? I'm genuinely asking here, what the fuck did he even do?besides making Sonic porn?
>hurr durr, but he makes AI!
Please don’t give me that.
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>>544872186
He's a faggot and a schizo. His AI slop is the only *good* thing he does, not the only bad thing.
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>>544870956
The hatred for IDW is overblown like everything else on this god forsaken website. Of course severely autistic people can't tell, so to them this place is completely serious at all times which is why they respond so spastically, they think everyone acts like that here. The only difference is the level of sincerity
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>>544871972
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>>544872186
Basically surge
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>>544872274
IDW hatred is always justified
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Should I go to work at 8:00 if I’ve been up since 10:00
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>>544872270
Ok, what he did he do?
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>>544872437
See either this anon is shitposting or he's being completely sincere. One is 4chan culture, the other is severe autism.
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Delete Ian
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>>544872274
I mean a lot of IDW does come off as either uninteresting or like it has some characterisation problems that really hurt it plus the Forces status quo element strangles it but I still think there's stuff I'd point out to liking such as the Deadly Six getting some more characterisation, The Scrapnik Island Arc, some of the designs like the Egg Shogun Z or Mimic and I do like the concept of the Metal Virus Arc even if the execution has some issues.
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>>544872274
Post Metal Virus is pretty bad unless you want to say the hate for Forces and Lost World is overblown too.ç
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if you can tolerate the amount of ooc in archie then idw is fine
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>>544872274
The reason I think it is mostly serious is that
A. nearly every identifiable poster is confirmed to have severe problems with IDW.
B. For this to be more sarcastic there would need to be high effort jokes over high effort critiques. The closest to high effort jokes this general produces on a regular basis is the Evan Stanley Human Women meme.
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>>544866167
All Rouge ships and Sonic ships are forced, those characters don't want romance.
Yes, Rouge valuing Shadow's life over her own in 06 is very OOC and that cutscene is also extremely overrated.
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>>544872545
He is, to put it simply, a namefag. He likes to stir up drama, and he likes to get involved when someone else stirs up drama.
He's hardly the worst, though.
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>>544872713
The problem is we're only like 2 arcs in after all this time. The big bloated story arcs feel even worse when they're bad. Metal virus was fun for the most part, then we had the OC show with the diamond faggots and surge the rape bait and that went on fucking forever, and now they're all gone and the series looks like it'll be toning it down some with the big bombastic stories. People liked the chaotix mini and scrapnik and generally the side stuff is well received. Hopefully with Sage coming in we can move past all of the slog that was the last arc.
>>544872831
No that's different because ummm uhhh duhhh Archie is supposed to be considered it's "own thing" like satam and adventures of sonic. Just those 3 things though, we can still bitch about prime, manga, boom and IDW if we want.
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>>544873196
>saying it out loud in the video title
amateur hour stuff. not even 30 minutes for optimum ad placement either. you're supposed to give all kinds of insincere 'wow, the game box really does a good job of securely holding the game disc in place' praise before you get your phoney revenue-gathering contrarian takes in
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>>544873384
Why DID Eggman give him a pointy needle nose when Sonic didn't have one?
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>>544873594
More lethal that way
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>>544872919
>most identifiable anons-
Are severely autistic. Kraak, slashy, sparky, all of them. Severely. I'd go so far as to say they're mentally ill.
>Sarcasm needs to be high effort
Lmao. No. No it doesn't. It just has to be a charged statement for any autismo to take seriously and seeth at. Watch.
"Amys entire character is being a psycho bitch or an annoying girlboss, she should be replaced."

Do I actually believe that? No. But that statement or some variation of it always gets a rise out of one or two auts a thread and always has, probably always will too.
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>>544873384
I do not think Evan is capable of writing decent stories unless they are purely simple slice of life and even that is hit or miss.

She does not care for Sonic to be a cool or funny series. Hell she flat out said she does not like the comedy focus of this franchise.
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>>544864116
That was cool
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>>544872636
Literally what the fuck does IDW give to Sonic franchise if not stupid faggot turd? The comic is not even on Archie level. Just admit you like female OCs and you jack off to them, it's easier that way
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>>544873050
How did you know that it was him though??
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>>544872831
You'll have to be specific with Archie cause there's OOC I don't like it from the 50 onwards to 159 and there's OOC but I can like parts of it and dislike others from 160 onwards. Also Archie at least had the excuse that it was being made when the franchise was new with 2 cartoons and 4 games at most while having to actively add elements alongside the games despite veering in a completely different direction with minimal oversight from Sega unlike IDW being made with all this 25 years of game history, Sega overlooking it and yet people have even more issues with how it handles the cast or setting since it's not different enough from the game to give the changes a pass making them stand out as more glaring. It's very much a case of Ian and Evan trying to compromise with how they wrote on Archie with applying it to a more strictly game focused thing but being unable to balance it while making utterly baffling decisions due to the current climate of sheer access to trends, peoples opinions and who knows what.
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>>544873384
IDW has a major issue with either big arcs that get to massive but lack satisfying moments and payoff or recurring arcs that feel way to unimportant and like nothing significant is going on.
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>>544873196
Poopdowbros.. the raping.. is coming..
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>Archie had an excuse! they didn't know the lore!
Sonic not liking romance was determined before he had tan arms and the americans were aware of that
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>>544874227
Ignorance is no excuse for a lack of quality. Archie is not good. First 50~ issue are campy fun but they're not good sonic comics. I binged the entire mainline and it quickly gets abysmally bad. Do I blame Archie specifically? A bit. Do I blame sega for the lack of quality control and letting it be that bad? You bet your sweet and salty butthole I do.
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>>544873716
You have never been to the TheCinnemassacreTruth and seen the content they produce. We got nothing on them.
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>>544874751
Oh I'm absolutely not gonna mindlessly defend all of Archie, with Sonic I always see what I think worked and what didn't, Archie was a total meandering mess for the better part of ages after Endgame with the terrible idea of killing off Robotnik so they had to convolute how the bring him back with the Robo-Robotnik stuff which was also their convoluted answer for him to have his adventure design. Archie pretty much has 4 different periods that are so different to each other. When someone says they like Archie they at most mean specific periods and never really it as a whole.
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What whesterners have done to Sonic's character genuinely makes me feel sick. The fact that people try to excuse it in the modern day is pathetic. Just say you hate Sonic and be done with it.
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>>544873050
Duo is based because he makes porn that caters to my palate. You are gay and retarded kill yourself
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>>544875079
>Whesteners
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>>544875260
I filtered the word because unlike most of you faggots talking about whesterners actually pisses me off
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>>544875249
Making porn doesn't make him not a faggot.
Have a spine. Tell him to shut up and put the fries in the bag.
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>>544874751
Nta but Comics in general are like that so i don't see why even getting mad.

The context was that sonic was just born, a mascot without a real identity who's just "a cool teenager" in a comic not controlled by the house brand with few writers who need to come up with bullshit for a long ass media type. That comic predates even AOSTH if i remember.

IDW despite coming after is no different, comics are fuckhuge LONG and you need to come up with bullshit, it's why you should NEVER MAKE THEM CANON.
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>>544872186
NTA he's also a dramafag and a hypocrite.
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>>544875292
What's funny is that word hasn't come up once this thread so you're currently the whestfag
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>>544875416
Shut up
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>>544874227
>It's very much a case of Ian and Evan trying to compromise with how they wrote on Archie with applying it to a more strictly game focused thing but being unable to balance it while making utterly baffling decisions due to the current climate of sheer access to trends, peoples opinions and who knows what.
The damage social media addiction has done to writing rooms cannot be understated. They cannot help themselves about being meta and acknowledging fandom phenomena like shipping or theories (likely circlejerking themselves about being "clever"), and it really makes a work feel dishonest and wooden when you know for a fact it wants to "subvert your expectations" or panders to fans in a way that only someone terminally online would get, rather than focus on itself first and foremost.
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>>544875442
why are you green?
are you ill?
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>>544875292
Where you from then if you are not a whesternite? Also it isn't that hard, I don't like Silver so I just avoid talking about him or scroll past posts on him
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>>544875397
I consider them floating canon. Canon until the higher source says otherwise. Tangle and Whisper are canon to the sonic game universe
>Mobile shit doesn't count!
Kill yourself if you believe this, but just because they're canon to the games doesn't mean their comic arc is canon or their relationships or backstory, it's floating canon, an acceptable placeholder until Sega confirms or denies its existence
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>>544875668
I mean Lego Sonic and Longclaw are in those games.
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>>544875521
Faggots too scared to post their skin color
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>>544875468
IDW just feels like a fanfic honestly
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>>544875875
I don't know if there's supposed to be context for this image, but I like to imagine it's Silver abusing his knowledge of time travel to really mess shit up just like my favorite doujins)
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>>544875730
I honestly wouldn't mind Longclaw in the official games, she is really neato
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>>544875730
Then they exist in the game universe. It's already a precedent look at Sonic generations with chibi kawaii sonic and Nick Speed. Crossworlds does the same thing. Sonic has been since established that alternative dimensions exist and can breech their reality it's happened like 4 or 5 times now.
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>>544875442
>>544875875
NNN doing a number on people already
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>>544875875
underrated ship

shadally artist btw
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>>544875747
>this fucking new
These fuckin newfags man..
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>>544867654
on a failed console
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>>544875668
>Kill yourself if you believe this
It's just a shitty mobile game but regardless it's called "Canon filler" not floating canon. They make fillers to nuke that canon if something goes wront like IDW discloses the contracts.
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>>544875468
Yeah it's why so many plots suddenly swerve or change cause people figure out the mystery which is what a good mystery should do, be able to make sense and logically follow a pattern that can be discovered. It's also why companies tend to either cause problems trying to please specific people, alienate specific people and essentially the internet is just the world's largest focus group which as we all know has hurt more products then it's helped even if in some instances it has actually benefitted on a rare occassion. The Sonic movie redesign is the only instance where listening to the internet was a good course but also everyone should've clocked on right away how bad the design was and Sega should've put their foot down on how he looked in the first place.
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>>544876232
everyone knows about "anon as a character," retard
we don't do it cuz it's gay
at /sthg/ we celebrate crazy yumes who utilize an idealized caricature of themselves instead of green slenderman
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>>544876468
>revisionist crap
mods, permaban this poster
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>>544876468
>we don't do it cuz it's gay
You are gay.
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>>544876302
The PSP wasn't a failed console, Rivals just sucked
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>>544876403
Ugly sonic just reinforced that Sega does not give a fuck what Americans do with sonic for the most part.
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>>544875887
>The Sonic movie redesign is the only instance where listening to the internet was a good course but also everyone should've clocked on right away how bad the design was and Sega should've put their foot down on how he looked in the first place.
I'd kill to have testimony from any of the people who designed Ugly Sonic (like how Sega stepped in regarding Paramount Amy because she wasn't cute enough the first go around) so I could figure out what the fuck Paramount was thinking.
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>>544876862
>because she wasn't cute enough the first go around
elaborate
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What would be the seethe if Riverdale characters got in Crossworlds?
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We live in a shitty timeline, but i'm still happy because at least factorio exist.
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i'm tired of the new captcha
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>>544876909
It was said somewhere that Sega was apparently just a bit dissatisfied with the whatever the original peek at Amy in the post-credits scene of Sonic Movie 3 was and requested that they make her a bit cuter-looking.
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>>544875397
>come up with bullshit
That'd be the Sonic games as well. See Sonic somehow getting "slowdown shoes" in Labyrinth. Or giving him a Sword in Black Knight. It's only recently that timeline shenanigans and "brand consistency" are a thing.

And that's ignoring how there are always different eras of shit. Who's in charge makes a huge difference.
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>>544877559
ok. i'm not yelling at you or calling you a liar or whatever, it just sounds like lies that people tell each other online, to me.
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>>544877559
ahh cringus maximus, teaser amy is cute as heck
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>>544876961
When did it become 'nut' instead of 'fap'. I want to know when that happened and why people stopped calling it one thing and called it another.
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>>544877838
alliteration is pleasing
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>>544877660
This image fucking sucks.
>Doesn't include rest of the Crash games because "MUH JAPANESE BAD"
>Whines about Tawna for no real reason
>Says "Radical cared about the series", but yet they rebooted the series
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>>544876862
Someone said it was just bait for marketing reasons. It worked.
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>>544877707
>>544877735
Granted, it's entirely possible it was just some ordinary production growing pains rumor that they already sorted out by the time the movie came out. Maybe just for buzz like >>544877989 said. I can't exactly find a source to verify, so feel free to consider it bullshit.
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>>544877838
If you think it's misogynic, "nut" is so random of a word you can easily associate it with the clit
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>>544877962
No shit, Radical cared. Crash of the Titans having one of the boss fights being Uka Uka after being hit by the Evolvo-ray was one hell of a deep cut. Also Cortex finding his balls in Mind over Mutant undid a great injustice.
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>>544878238
If they cared then they wouldn't have rebooted the franchise regardless. There was nothing stopping them from making a normal Crash game.
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>>544877660
Yes but that's mainly because of sega's incompetence, comics are a type of media that requires you to invent more bullshit than usual assuming you don't plan to end them with a single writing team, like a manga does with a single fag writer/artist.
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>>544878521
>Reboot
I don't think you know what that means.
>normal Crash game
Didn't stop 4 from being absolute dogshit that disregarded 99% of the franchise.
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>>544876862
One other case of character redesign before release I can think of was with the first Bayformers Megatron's head design being changed after the initial final design for leaked and people didn't like it.
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>>544878857
>we learned
It doesn't matter what we learned. The question is whether or not Sega learned anything. Did Sega learn anything?
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>>544878882
>I don't think you know what that means.
I clearly do, as it's very obvious Titans games were meant to reboot the franchise.
>Didn't stop 4 from being absolute dogshit that disregarded 99% of the franchise.
The only thing it disregarded was Wrath of Cortex, which wasn't even a very good game to begin with.
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>>544877660
I honestly quite like Crash of the Titans and Mind over Mutant. The concept of controlling cool monster enemy types as playable characters is something that always stuck with me growing up playing Titans.
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>>544879084
It does matter, it means we're becoming better consumers and, if we need it, better producers.
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>>544879126
>The only thing it disregarded was Wrath of Cortex
And Twinsanity and Crash Team Racing and every other post-Naughty Dog game. Is 4 automatically bad for being reboot? They clearly didn't care or they wouldn't have rebooted the franchise.
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i am eating an orange
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>>544878238
The Radical games are weird in that elements feel like a semi reboot but then other stuff clearly is following up off or building from years of past games. I know some of it in the case of Titans was cause story elements they planned to delve and focus on got cut in development like Crash's tats or the origin of Mojo.
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>>544879254
Yeah. As a beat 'em up spinoff, it could work. Shame the games themselves are mediocre and only exist to cash-in on the God of War fad.
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>>544879425
how tall are you
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>>544879425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCJ_dUNdCTI
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>>544879425
Rouge is a fruit bat btw. She'd be like 'damn, that's a nice orange' but would say it inside her head rather than say mild curses out loud.
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>>544879773
>AHEM
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>>544879425
Did you know tails is also orange.
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What would Silver's Sol counter-part be like personality wise?
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I will not mansturbate.
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>>544879520
Honestly It's a solid concept for an original IP of playing as a weaker creature with some combat abilities that needs to link and control bigger ones for combat, puzzles relating to their abilities and can add some unique spins on the idea. Plus I still think Crash of the Titans is genuinely a pretty good game despite feeling out place compare to the original trilogy or even Twinsanity. Though I've not played a crash game in a solid while since beating 4.
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>>544880367
THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BAGGY PANTS
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>>544880367
You just reminded me i need to learn how to sculpt otherwise i'm a huge cocksucking faggot for not producing sexy women day and night.
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Anon you will not masturbate, righ-
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>>544880985
AH, only honey turns me on!
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finally placed where the Race of AGES intro music came from. it's the Mega-CD 'insert CD' theme. that's nice
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>>544879782
>fruit bat
No. It is uncommon for fruit bats to have large ears like she does. Then again, she also doesn't have a nose leaf, but bats with large ears are generally carnivorous. My vote for her species is a northern australian ghost bat.
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>>544882223
She's just a stereotipical bat, her nose is too cute for any real bat.
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>>544882571
>She's just a stereotipical bat
Well I wasn't expecting RACISM this early but here we are
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>>544882223
Anon we're not having the Mobians aren't realistic Earth animals thing again. We're past that.
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>>544882571
Bats are cute.
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>>544882547
Did you know "Mina" in italian means "Land Mine"? Or it could also refer to a pencil graphite...
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>>544882723
They are based on realistic earth animals. I will base them on realistic earth animals and you cannot stop me.
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>>544882972
I'm going to drop an anvil on your head
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What happened?
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>>544883073
this is what you get when you don't write the wind
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>>544882791
Now post the common one across many species.
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>>544882805
I didn't... It makes sense bc she blew up literally and figuratively
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>>544882972
Okay. If domestic cats exist, how did they get domesticated?
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Bobo's art will never ever improve
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HONEST thoughts on Sonurge? I'm curious about something.
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>>544883593
Ooc
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>>544883593
Sonurge is cute and full of wholesome implications
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>>544883593
If Sonurge is Sonic x Surge, what is Sonic x Scourge called? Also Sonurge?
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cool bat fact: because they navigate by sound rather than by vision, they usually stay away from roads and other open places that are brightly-lit. so, they like to follow train tracks instead, because they're usually unlit corridors with vegetation nearby that bats can use as cover or as roosting spots.
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>>544881310
Only who?
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>>544883073
MY LITTLE PONY PLEASE COME BACK
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>>544883138
That's adorable tho
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>>544883375
> If domestic cats exist, how did they get domesticated?
Indirect artificial selection, cats learned to prosper in human settlements getting food by interacting with humans and slowly turn into cute beggars.
Dogs on the other hand had a useful productive use and instead got the direct artificial selection (selective breeding) to produce varieties for many uses.

They both changed their genes because of humans but one (cats) had to rely more on their own.
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the bat's expression is killing me. 'fuck OFF i'm trying to SLEEP aaaargh'
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>>544883593
Don't care about it
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>>544883593
I prefer shipping Sonic with another evil green woman more personally
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>>544883593
Will never ever be canon
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>>544884169
The Wicked Witch of the West?
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>>544883802
>>544884035
I am yet again undefeated and my libido is still under control. For the most part.
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>>544821916
Sure
https://litter.catbox.moe/mmnra4w796hl40rz.mp4
https://litter.catbox.moe/te4mieoio0bcy2w5.mp4
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Do you even LIKE Sonic or are you one of those fans that used to like him and bitterly hate everything new that doesn't pander to you?
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>>544884281
Nah, a sexy evil green woman
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>>544885175
i like sonic prime
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>>544885175
Nah I'm actually still quite happy with Sonic overall even if there's some stuff I don't like, I still find enjoyment of this franchise with it's games, movies, cartoons or comics that I am fond of warts and all.
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>>544885020
Cute siblings
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>>544885175
i also like sonic frontiers i think sonic sounds cool with his deep manly frontiers voice
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>>544885020
Subarashii
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>>544885240
Game Over Grunty?
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>>544886173
this is a very windy image
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Check your kids’ Halloween candy, they putting some nasty shit in there this year
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>>544885753
That might be closer to Sonic's human woman lust but no not her either, more outer space then evil witch
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>>544886697
forces isn't really that bad honestly
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>>544886697
lol. this guy is funny enough to post the sonic the hedgehog twitter account ha ha
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>>544885175
I generally like the current state of the franchise even if I do have a few hang-ups about it.
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>>544886860
Just say who bitch.
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>>544887340
Nah, you are being rude now so I don't want to anymore
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NO NUT NOVEMBER IS MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL THE POPULATION!
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>>544887550
Ah yes, amy.
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>>544886874
It's atrocious. It has all the issues from every 2010s entry so far at that point and doubles down on them while being a ugly looking game in terms of aesthetics. Sonic Team cared more about the engine they were working on than the actual game, which is a huge red flag.
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>>544888379
I like how nice Sonic is to the oc and the music makes me smile
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>>544888563
I'm sick. I'm happy that he mentioned underground. Undergroundbros our deranged show was acknowledged.
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>>544888563
A certain autist is going to cum directly in his pants seeing Naka comparing Sonic to Micky (it's a surface level comparison that he gets to blow out of proportion and use as evidence to affirm his beliefs)
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>>544885175
If I didn't like Sonic I wouldn't get so pissed off at the bad shit in this series and the apologists that defend it, if I didn't like Sonic I either wouldn't care about him or I'd look forward to his fuck ups.
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>>544888563
I like how acknowledges that Underground and SatAM has done nothing but damage to the Sonic brand.
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>>544888563
>I think it's because they're afraid of damaging his image
Didn't stop them from making 06
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Until I got really hardcore into Sonic I genuinely thought Underground was canon. I actually played through Sonic Adventure just figuring Sonia and Manic were out there somewhere. Naka had an actual point
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>>544888970
06 unironically didn't do much damage to the brand when compared to other titles and cartoon shows. Especially when Boom caused damage to the Sonic brand that it lost Sega millions and many companies outright dropped the Sonic license since they had lack of faith in the Sonic series.
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>>544889220
I don't ship Silvaze anymore. Fuck racist Blaze
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>>544888563
Source?
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>>544888970
Ironically 06 was supposed to be a return to his roots and a new direction for the next generation.
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>>544889416
Only because nobody remembers the kiss scene
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>>544889416
idk anon. I think 06 was definitely more damaging than Underground. The only things from Underground that "infected" the perception of Sonic is the portrayal of his family. Nothing else about the show ever carried over.
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>>544889774
Nobody watched underground so no damage was done
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>>544889929
Correction: I watched it. A lot of damage was done. To me. And then I watched it again.
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>>544889416
06 absolutely hurt Sonic as a franchise, like I'm happy that it's a thing of the past and Sonic has bounced back but it can't be ignored how badly that game had ramifications for a solid while
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Sonic 06 did damage the brand, you guys are nuts. They purposely started re-evaluating the games after 06 to give it a new identity.
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Without question Satam was the most damaging of all the Sonic shows even if writing-wise it is the second best. The fandom int cultivated were the earliest example of Sonic fans becoming attached to a branch of the franchise that will never come back. I'm glad they're finally just making their own content instead of demanding it override the canon.
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>>544889635
Nothing that fat can fly
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>WINDnic is Sega's own conceit that they need Sonic to be a commercial blank state

It's over...
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06 damaged the gaming branch
Underground damaged the image branch
Boom and forces damaged the entire company's face
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So uuhhh the movies kind of take everything Naka was concerned about and crank it up to a billion. Sonic is now a hyperactive electric zoomer alien who suffers ptsd and lives with his police officer dad and his mom with a big soft butt
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>>544890752
>his mom with a big soft butt
hey now
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>>544890752
And they're the most successful part of the franchise.
Maybe Naka needed to chill.
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>>544890913
she is literally introduced doing yoga bent on all fours, i'm going to mention her butt.
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>>544890309
How did it damage anything if the show got cancelled after its second season, the comic that most drew influence from it and used the characters from it has been dead for 9 years and it never had any influence on the games but instead the comic heavily had to retool often to better follow what was in line with the games? Like most can say is Ian Flynn working on the games of you aren't fond of him but he just does dialogue instead of having that much control over the scripts he's given from Japan for games that were coded, programmed, conceptualised and mostly done without him influencing anything to my knowledge.
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>>544891081
Were you around during the 2000s when people were calling Satam the only good Sonic story? It was annoying.
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>>544890752
I thought a billion was how much money those films gave Sega in total? I don't think they really mind the different characterisation and elements of they were willing to let the original design go as far as it did before completely redesigning it after the backlash.
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>>544886173
This would work only if he landed on it from mid air. If he jumped from the ground it would immediatly fry him.
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in lieu of an official release because of the reasons everyone knows about, does there exist an unofficial autism-quality Sonic 3 & Knuckles soundtrack. just for my collection
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>>544885175
I love Sonic
Regarding the newer stuff there's things that I know I would have gone absolutely insane over if it had happened then, like not one but three sonic movies with one of them loosely based off my favorite Sonic game
That being said I really wanted Forces to be so much better than it was because the idea sounded so good
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>Naka thinks the wind can be damaged
Umm??
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>>544889635
Remove the last 3 letters and you're right
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>>544890119
>06 absolutely hurt Sonic as a franchise
That's not entirely the case. The only thing 06 did was convincing people over in the west that Modern Sonic can't work and the franchise needed to go back it's roots, which was fulfilled with Sonic 4, Colors, and Generations(Fun fact: People widely considered the 2010s to be the "Sonic Renaissance era" until Boom RoL happened).
Boom still did more damage to the Sonic brand and arguably SatAM as well, since many people had no idea that version of Sonic is not how he's usually portrayed.
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>>544889416
>Boom caused damage to the Sonic brand that it lost Sega millions and many companies outright dropped the Sonic license
This is true and weird people don't acknoledge this. Boom overall did the most damage to this franchise in every angle, that being said, the blow wouldve been soften had 06 not release 8 years prior. 06 damaged the sonic brand to gaming audiences, Boom nearly put it in a coffin by damaging Sega themeselves
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>>544891934
You forgot Unleashed
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>>544891934
I would say satam is objectively the worst offender (I should clarify I like the show). Whenever I see a non-fan try and reference how Sonic speaks, they start doing that "RADICAL 2KOOL4SCHOOL" style speech that even the Adventure games didn't do.
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Sonic is a tug of war between Japanese faildevs who want to push their sentimental dogshit because that's what they think "progress" looks like and the modern audiences rejecting it over and over again.
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>>544892224
>Aw yeah! This is happenin!
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>>544891934
Rise of Lyric reopened the wound that 06 left, everytime Sonic has a mistake or a bad game it's directly compared or measured to how much 06 affected the series until Unleashed set the baseline standard which would salvage Sonic from a gameplay standpoint for a solid while. Growing up with Sonic I didn't even hear anything about or watch Satam besides vague references in Sonic Shorts or Sonic Epilogue until like 2013 I think. But that's just my opinion as someone who grew up in a specific kind of internet period for Sonic which has become much more positive now in the last 4 years to the franchise even with IDW criticism or the usual divisive thoughts on what games are good or not.
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>>544892168
>Boom overall did the most damage to this franchise in every angle
It's interesting because yes, you're actually right, but it doesn't feel that way.
06 was a disaster, meant to be a "reboot" of Sonic with an ambitious direction and story which ultimately was a fucking disaster; but it was also just one game.

Boom was an entire era. Games, comics, cartoons, merchandise, redesigns of character designs and personality. It was clearly meant and intended to be a new direction for the whole franchise.
Though I feel less people talk about Boom than 06 because everyone knew Boom was going to be a shitshow from the very moment the redesigns were teased. No aspect of that "era" was going to be good so it was written off before it even started, whereas a lot of people had high hopes for 06 (its E3 previews were decent) so it stuck in people's minds more when it ended up being "one of the worst games of all time".

In comparison, Boom barely feels like a footnote.
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>>544889416
This is just blatantly false. Shit like Boom only happened because of the massive shift change caused by the backlash to 06
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Bun!
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Forces wasn't fundamentally bad but I think it just didn't do enough generally
Infinite should be brought back and be given a chance to actually be as menacing as he's made out to be, I don't care if his character is cringe, its Sonic
If Eggman actually manages to conquer most of the world we need to see it other than some simple text on a black screen
Don't really have an issue with the Avatar and the option to create a character in a Sonic game was a long time coming, though I wish we could have had more levels playing as just the Avatar without holding Sonic's hand
Also I think the game could have benefitted from an SA1 style of story, where we play as different characters whose stories intersect and then all come together for the final fight, with the Avatar getting the most stages and Sonic close behind, makes sense in a game with "Forces" in the title I think
Also as an aside Knuckles should probably never given military command again
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>>544892224
I have a friend who does this specific impression of Sonic that fucking always annoys me, he also makes discussing Sonic miserable to a fault with overdone I jokes and irony poisoning. Why have to spend my time talking Sonic mostly either with artists I commission or on 4chan.
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The Boom cartoon mogs the fuck out of anything from 06
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>>544893124
Id assume people are just referring to the Boom game, most people seem fine with the TV show and treat it as a separate thing
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>>544893002
Forces had all the ingredients to be a great game but so much of its half baked, mishandled and the story is just massively botched. I do agree though that Infinite shouldn't just be stuck a one shot character, he genuinely deserves another chance much like Big, Silver or Zavok has gotten
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>>544892789
>because everyone knew Boom was going to be a shitshow from the very moment the redesigns were teased.
Actually, it was because Sega lied about it being a "spin-off". So people didn't mind much as Sega sweeped the Boom series under the rug.
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>>544893002
>Infinite should be brought back and be given a chance to actually be as menacing as he's made out to be, I don't care if his character is cringe, its Sonic
It's not about being cringe, it's about being uncool. I AM NOT WEAK genuinely sank his character.
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>>544893002
Forces is fundamentally bad. Infinite can’t be brought back because he’s already jobbed to an insane degree. He’ll never be taken seriously again. The Avatar was blatant pandering to OC culture (which no franchise should ever do, but ESPECIALLY Sonic). Tails and Knuckles were utterly ruined. More Classic Sonic fuckery that was never needed or wanted
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Do you think Sonic would still be as popular and enduring as it is today without the Western media of the 90s, especially considering the Saturn hiatus?

While it might have been able to rebuild a new fanbase in the West with Adventure as the new start point like in Japan. I think without the western media cultivation a western fanbase Sonic would have ended up like Phantasy Star. 3.5 really good Genesis games could only maintain relevancy for so long.
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>>544893406
It's odd how they didn't introduce more characters with the Boom redesigns, like the only other game character to appear in the franchise/show later on was Vector. Also everything regarding how the game was handled was a total comedy of errors, Sega is incredible in how inept they handle Sonic compared to most of their other franchises that still get new entries like Yakuza or Persona.
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>>544893709
>Do you think Sonic would still be as popular and enduring as it is today without the Western media of the 90s, especially considering the Saturn hiatus?
Lmao no
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>>544893124
Correct. 06niggers have nothing but "muh themes" and "I will fight like I always have!". The mainline games continuously damage the franchise because they're filled with Japanese sensibilities about ~serious storytelling~. Forced sentimentality has been dragging this franchise down since at least 06.

>Nobody cared about Sage until her rival dialogs in CrossWorlds
>People are willing to give the Deadly Six a chance because of their rival dialogs in CrossWorlds
>People are willing to give Silver a chance because of his rival dialog in CrossWorlds
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>>544893551
It's impressive how much damage that one DLC did to him, like they should've just been open ended with him since that way could've fleshed it out in another game to justify bringing Infinite back or just....give him something better since the elements are there for a great Sonic villain.
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>>544893709
I agree with you, and I also add that the western media of the 90s alone wouldn't have been enough either. The Adventure games continued and evolved the series. Sonic would be forgotten by the mid 2000s and to this day if it had to rely on the Mega Drive trilogy only
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>>544893828
Is Sonic Team at fault for all these mishaps?
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Tails!
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>>544893992
I don't see the relation between what you're saying and your examples. Japanese writing isn't to blame for current Sega being allergic to letting its cast interact with each-other. Sonic Battle proves as much.
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>>544893002
>Forces wasn't fundamentally bad
Oh I completely disagree.
Even the very concept was a fuck up. Sonic just being held in an Eggman base having to be saved by some random (You), all of the writing, all of the characterisations, Classic Sonic gameplay being fucking broken, modern having 30 second levels, how limited the OC creation was, how bad a lot of the music was, how they fumbled Infinite, man I could keep going.

One thing I liked was the Avatar having different routes depending on the weapon and even that was half baked.

The more I think about Forces, the more pissed off I get.
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>>544893992
People gave Sage and Silver a chance before Crossworlds though
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>>544894174
I've not got enough information and research to say who's fully at fault for Rise of Lyric being a totally mess but I do remember that the game was made with an engine that wasn't compatible with its eventual shift to becoming a wii-U exclusive and also just how the game doesn't really establish the new universe, how anyone met or really anything that a spin-off starting from total scratch really could do especially since a lot of cut stuff was regarding elements like that I think.
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idk. I grew up with Forces. I just can't hate it.
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>>544894040
>>544893551
Yeah, he definitely became a laughing stock of the fanbase and for good reason, but I dont think it's too late, hell even if they just throw in a clumsy retcon I'd personally still be okay with it. I still think he deserves a second shot and just because they fumbled the ball with him once doesn't mean he should never appear again especially considering he wasn't introduced like some simple one-off villain.
Just asspulling an idea, if they make another Generations-esque game that could potentially be a good time to bring him back in a way that fulfils that second chance and gauge community reaction while still being "safe" enough that if they fuck it up again he just gets vaulted for good
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>>544894698
>grew up with forces
How old are you
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>>544894698
You need to be 18+ to use 4chan lil bro
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>>544894401
The Avatar is so limited since it doesn't give you enough species options, body type options to make a character perhaps more Storm sized or Smaller like Cream and also just the lack of additional character creator features that'd absolutely benefit making a Sonic character. I remember how much I struggled to make a female magpie character and getting the design to not be boring or messy.
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>>544893002
I completely agree

>>544893551
>>544894040
>>544893591
You don't understand Infinite, or you're trying to force him to be the type of villain you want to see in the series, when he was never meant to be that. Infinite is a weak loser, that's the whole point of his character. He gets his hands on a stone that makes people live the illusions he creates. Him looking "cool" is just a mask he puts on to intimidate others, but once that fact is revealed and his illusions are broken he is easily defeated
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>>544894828
22
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>>544894990
Not them but I understand him, I just think he still sucks.
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>>544895138
Well that's alright I guess. I like him. I think he could be a good recurring minor villain. We still need an actually strong and intimidating blobian villain, that should be a separate character made specifically for that role
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>>544894990
>but once that fact is revealed
It was revealed in a prequel mission. This never gets brought up during the actual story. Dude just disappears.
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>>544894401
I liked the idea that Sonic wouldn't be the sole focus of the game's story. Not saying he should have been absent entirely because it's still a Sonic game, but I do think that saving Sonic could have had more buildup. If you're gonna rescue the main hero of the franchise it should be a pretty big deal, but I think you set Sonic free to early in the story.
Classic Sonic should have been removed entirely I agree completely on that.
I should have specified I was mostly referring to the story aspect but the gameplay could have been much better as well.
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>>544895026
Huh. I am the same age and I grew up with SA1.
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>>544894990
We already have an Eggman-adjacent loser trying to be taken seriously: his name's Fang.
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>>544894116
Sure, but Sonic as a franchise would have died in the mid 90s without it. The Western media, though inaccurate and responsible for building the first fissures in the fanbase, did the job of keeping Sonic on screens and relevant while ST took the necessary hiatus they needed to figured out how to evolve Sonic.
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>>544894715
Honestly something as simple as jumping further back into his past could work to salvage that I'm not weak moment, maybe focus on how he lost his entire squad with how it molded his current personality or even when he returns have him develop after his absolute defeat in Forces and reflect as to how he can become a better threat while not losing the main essentials of his personality, essentially have him get a villain development arc where he doesn't better as a person but gets stronger as a character.
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>>544895330
Idk, I like Jaleel White's voice for Classic Sonic.

https://x.com/Jukobut3/status/1983576297184854341
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Infinite's theme is cringe in all the best ways though, I love it
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>>544894401
>how they fumbled Infinite
Infinite was always supposed to be a chuuni jobber what more do you want from him?
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Presuming this was the case
>not only did her set of rocks sent her to another dimension
>but in its future to meet up with some fag and then die for no reason
But why though? It was pointless. There really is no way to tackle her inclusion without it being stupid and forced.
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>>544895278
It is brought up in the main story. Infinite's mask figuratively falls progressively as they learn that the Phantom Ruby creations aren't real and that they can defeat them. The theme of the game is mentioned during and after the last fight against Infinite
>Friends are nothing but a fleeting illusion. You can count on nobody but yourself
>Your mask can't hide how sad and lonely you are! That Phantom Ruby virtual reality of yours is the real illusion!
>Impossible. I cannot be defeated.
>Wrong, loser! The things that can't be defeated are heart, soul, and the bonds of friendship. Three things you and your counterfeit cronies lack!
Episode Shadow is just a lot more obvious with him being shown to be insecure in the past and putting on the mask specifically to hide his face. I still think it's poorly executed overall though unfortunately

>>544895330
Yes I agree
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>>544894990
That idea isn't even bad in concept since pathetic yet powerful villains like Electro, Tighten and Syndrome for example can work but they are given more develop motives/pasts, clearer intention and better balance the idea of being a total loser but also one that has enough power to where it becomes frightening that it's been given to someone utterly pathetic. But Infinite is simply two conflicting ideas on how to execute him as a villain utterly clashing against one another since I've had people say he's played straight as a menacing big threat to the cast but failed in execution as much as people arguing he was suppose to be a paper tiger given god like power that's messy presentation is deliberate, he can't be both since they are in direct contradiction to one another.The thing is also to have credibility, better developed motivation and just have presentation that sells a character better as a villain.
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>>544894990
Then there’s no reason at all to bring him back
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>>544895287
>I should have specified I was mostly referring to the story aspect
Ah, fair enough.
In that case, sure. If we ignore everything that actually happens, the core concept of "Eggman fucking won, Sonic got captured, figure that shit out" could be used to good effect - it's not like that concept is entirely new to the franchise, either. We know Sonic gets caught multiple times, but this time Eggman has the upper hand and keeps him locked up until (You) and the gang manage to get him out like half way through the game I guess.
Maybe that WAS the plan but then they bitched out because "they gotta play as Sonic" though I think if they had focused entirely on the Avatar (the main reason most people even bought the game) for the first half at least then it would have been fine.
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>>544895496
Yeah, White was a good voice for the DIC produced Sonic shows.

Why do people always leave out Takeshi Kusao for their Sonic voice actor tier-list thingies?
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>JP: Sonic is a messiah who uses magic rocks to go Super Saiyan and fight eldritch gods
>US: Sonic is a 90s one-liner machine fighting in a guerrilla war against Mecha-Hitler
>UK: Sonic is a jerk whose best friend became his worst enemy in a freak accident
What would Brazilian Sonic have looked like?
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Forces took a giant shit on Tails just to fellate the avatar and classic Sonic. As a Tailsfag I will never give it any grace
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>>544895804
Because "muh themes"
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>>544896594
>UK: Sonic is a jerk
It's just banter mate
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>>544893002
This piece of shit did a better portrayal of a global war than it.
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>>544872186
dogshit poster who doesn't play games and only comes here to talk about shipping and thread personalities
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>>544896594
>What would BR Sonic looked like?
Shadow 2005 wouldn't have been the only game to have guns in it
Instead of Crossworlds we would have got Mario Strikers (Sonic)
Every character caked up
50/50 on the music being better or worse
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>>544896370
He is both because no one starts to figure out who he is until about halfway through the story. As the story progresses it becomes clear that he only creates illusions, and in the end it's revealed that he's just weak. He was never a serious threat, but everyone felt he was because of his power. The illusion is broken and he is defeated. If he is brought back he can't be particularly intimidating. He would be a minor villain who gets repeatedly humiliated. At best you could give him a new power, but the characters are already aware of his weakness, so he would still be a comparatively minor threat
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>>544896594
>What would Brazilian Sonic have looked like?
Even more Dragon Ball references.
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>>544896869
Honestly as goofy as Shadow was, that game genuinely does a better job of selling the stakes of the situation, organically calling back to past games due to how the story is and was able to make its new villain much more credible as a threatening presence despite being equally as over the top....though I'm biased since I'm an unironic Black Doom fan.
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I still don't understand what the ruby can do.
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Sonic Forces should have been a Musou game. Sonic already apes everything else from Zelda, lol
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>>544894389
It's not about the cast interacting with each other. My point is that Sonic Team wanta to tell serious stories with unearned sentimentality (ie, shlock) instead of letting the characters be fun and expressive. Battle had Amy thinking Emerl was her baby and a test. People dragged Frontiers for being weepy bullshit. Sonic Team is under the impression that classic Sonic is a quarantine for fun low stakes adventures while modern Sonic is sperg shit (except when it isn't). The entire franchise is a bait and switch because its tone is inconsistent.

Iizuka says "oh we can't make every Sonic fan happy" like whose fault do you think that is retard?
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>>544897796
As a certified Musou autist I agree
Easy way to incorporate a mobillion characters too
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>>544896870
I have 90 hours in Crossworlds. Check mate!
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>>544897637
Illusions. That's it.
It's all explained in this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BGLyMYzIvo
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>>544897637
Here you go.
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IDW unironically does melodrama better than the games do. 06 and Forces prove this
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>>544893992
Legit one of the worst scenes in this franchise.
https://youtu.be/Lwv-VaX4mhI
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>>544898210
What's your favorite moment of melodrama in IDW?
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>>544898210
IDW is fun, I just wish it had more high stakes situations.
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>>544898210
I don't want any melodrama
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>>544898330
Literally who is that skater girl?
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>>544898396
You should tell Sonic Team that then
>b-but that would never work!
It did for moviefags
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>>544898210
I like furry melodrama. People who hate that are gay and have shit tastes.
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>>544897971
As a Musou autist, do you think ST could pull off a half-way decent Musou Sonic game, and if not, what studio could they outsource to for a good Sonic Musou game?
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>>544897971
A Sonic musou would genuinely be fucking baller, I feel like could do really interesting movesets with the cast especially specifically with Dr Eggman, Omega or Blaze the Cat what with Musou's loving their fire and explosion based moves.
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Infinite comes back forever, BUT, he becomes like Big in showing up but with the gag of him losing in some funny way despite trying to be serious.
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>>544893992
I agree, the dialogues help carry the characters, but I genuinely think Sage could prove to have been a bad idea in the end. It's going to be increasingly hard to have Eggman do his typical shit while keeping her relatable and sympathetic unless she eventually rebels and abandons him which seems unlikely. They either need to change Eggman's plots to be Bowser-level or maybe slightly worse, or they need another villain to become the main baddie. Mephiles could do it, but they'd need to make a Sonic 26 or whatever to explain shit and bring him back.
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Sonic Underground actually has incredible writing you guys just don't understand it
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>>544898629
That's Grace from Fighting Vipers. She had a cameo where she was swooning over Knuckles in Archie
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>>544895887
Ah yes, the Sonic characters... buttgirl and a guy in a white shirt. Did you mean to post it here, or?
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>>544899016
I wish Sonic had more snake and reptile character
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>>544899016
>She had a cameo where she was swooning over Knuckles in Archie
I don't remember that, panel?
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Sonic the Hedgehog is a platforming franchise about a blue cartoon hedgehog who fights a mad scientist that mants to create an amusement park called Eggmanland.
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>>544872274
Can you really call it overblown when the people working on it low-key admit that it sucks?
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>>544899210
Silver is a shonen character stuck in shojo stories. Both in 06 and the comics.
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Surge has a huge massive ass, all for Sonic.
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>>544898705
Kekmo could do it. I think a Sonic Warriors game could outsell your average Sonic game.
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>>544899358
what if sonic and surge fucked while spindashing so they looked like a blue and green undulating ball zipping around
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>>544899110
no
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>>544899208
I can't find the panel Nerfuffle said she drew it in one of the crowd shots.
https://sonicartresources.tumblr.com/post/157099610969/nerfuffle-pltnmghost-melvanainchains
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>>544899461
It would be extremely painful the first time they try that.
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>>544899550
They're a big guy and a big girl.
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https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Rolling_Combo
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>>544899908
Exactly like this
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>>544895804
Any other way to introduce her to a mainline title where she's important?
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>>544899995
This hurts to look at.
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>>544899210
I have yet another thing to complain about Blaze in that game. You can tell just much they didn't give a shit about her, because...

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TWO WOMEN THAT SHARE AN ELEMENT /WITHDRAWN YET NOT DO A SINGLE FUCKING THING WITH IT AND HAVE THEM MEET OR SOMETHING

WOULDNT REALLY FIX THE STORY BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING BUT NOTHING WAS DONE
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>>544899995
Sissydow is such a scaredy hog...
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>>544900158
but it's wacky!!!
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I wonder aboutDaniel Barnes. His track record is too "perfect". There is no single thing fans can point out in his writing and say that he didn't understand a character. I feel like this can only last so long. Nobody is perfect.
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>>544896870
Shut the fuck up fag, anyone who makes porn here is my friend
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>>544898884
Infinite comes back but he gets his ass kicked by Big the Cat
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>>544887794
As you wish
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>>544899550
Hes a blue guy
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>>544900445
Sissyfinite
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Silver is Trunks who is Kyle Reese
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>>544895804
Mephiles did it somehow
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>>544899358
>Sonic
You mean Kit. Surge thinks she's in control but it's all part of Kit's keikaku.
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>>544900373
>His track record is too "perfect".
WTF are you talking about. Have you not read his Black harry potter knockoff comic?
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>>544900373
To be fair he has only written two things for IDW. His reputation is only because he panders to windfags, jpfags and anyone who hates steven universe slop. He's the only idw artist that seemingly understands them, but lets see how he handles the Sage miniseries now that he doesn't have a framework from sonic twitter to guide him
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I know 06 was bad, but fuck you kids do realize it's fucking old.
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>>544900663
I hate AI fags. They would have nothing if it weren't from the artists they steal from to make their slop.
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>>544900653
I don't care about anything except Sonic
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>>544900685
As long as Silver is being talked about at all we will be dealing with the 06 curse. The demons introduced by that game still haunt us
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>>544900843
It's fine, krock draws with AI now so she wont mind if her art is used for it
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>>544900884
Spoken like a true Sonic Fan.
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>>544895804
it's uh like fate or something dude lmao

My autistic headcanon is that Blaze meeting Silver in the future was a follow-up from the ending of Rush saying she would meet Sonic again because Silver is "Sonic" (Amy's Sonic Radar, blue hedgehog, etc)
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>>544900891
I don't that with Silver at all, not even with Elise or Mephiles anymore.
I only see that with Blaze in fact.
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>>544900392
i don't care nor did i ask
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Barnes is an actual professional writer while Ian and Evan are fanfic writers that struggle with any professional standards.
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>>544900653
Are you talking about Endless Fantasia? At least it got funded and he made effort to make his rabbit oc be dlc in a indie game. It has some kind of niche audience which is more than can be said for Drogune
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>>544900891
We don't deal with Boom when we talk about Sticks so it's mostly schizophrenia on your part
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>>544901218
>I masturbate
Thanks for the lore, anon. I feel like I practically know you now.
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>>544900558
I KNEEL
I SQUEEL
MY POWER ISNT REAL
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Do you guys think Sonic faps
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>>544901218
You failed already?
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>>544901189
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Mage-Daniel-Barnes/dp/1620106523
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>>544901476
He does thinking about Surge with her quills down
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>>544901415
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>>544893002
Infinite can't come back because he was too evil. The dude killed people throughout the game and enjoyed it (Avatar's hometown and everyone in Operation: Big Wave).
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Sonic is canonically attracted to Surge. There is no other reason for him to go out of his way to touch her butt like that in the middle of battle. She's his type. He thinks about that ass. She makes him sweat.
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>>544901105
Well you're deadass wrong because they still bring up 06 every time Silvar and Blaze meet. It's Silver's arc and the basis of his character.
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>>544901781
You understand Sonic.
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>>544893002
>Infinite should be brought back and be given a chance to actually be as menacing as he's made out to be
He's supposed to be Chunni, listen to his theme song.
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>>544901545
>book about black wizards vs the kkk
My fucking sides
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>>544900663
This is good btw
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>>544901890
*pulls the trigger, blowing a hole the size of a tennis ball in her guts*
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Barnes was in the navy?
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I am starting to suspect this artist is a BBWarrior.
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>>544901851
>they still bring up 06 every time Silvar and Blaze meet
Twice in 20 years
> It's Silver's arc and the basis of his character.
Which was canonically redone without her and he's at his best when she's away from him.
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>>544901851
Silver didn't have an arc in 06 and if he did then he literally forgot about it.
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>Infinite's character was changed at the last minute to the point some old dialog about his original character (being a creation of Eggman) was left in the game.
>Shadow's DLC is so lazily put together that the stages and the dialog don't match.
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I know basically nothing about Surge other than she's evil(?) but the hero defeating evil women by making them fall in love is simply kino so I'm on board
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>>544901938
The average person has no idea how fucking superstitious and delusional black people are about race. Blacks see groups of white people with no blacks and get spooked about "Klan meetings".
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>>544900685
I think it's due the fact that the game never saw a rerelease outside of Japan and how youtubers liked to play up 06 as being some "disaster that was never seen before in the gaming industry" to a bunch of children with growing minds has caused them to have tons of interest and intrigued in the game.
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>>544902376
I believe in you Anon
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>>544901545
>Tom Token
LMAO
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>>544895804
Solaris was that big of a threat and Silver needed someone to sorta wrangle him as a counterbalance since he gets reckless with his short temper.
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>>544902273
It's been obvious for a while from Daniel's twitter that he's obsessed with hating white people. He's racist but as long as he doesn't put that shit into the sonic comics, I could care less. It's the same level as Mike being anti palestine or Karen being "transphobic". I won't harp on them for wrongthink if they know how to be professional where it counts
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>>544902143
Here's what Sonic Channel says the appeal of Silver is. You guys are in total denial about Silver. This would be like saying SA2 and Maria don't matter to Shadow.

>>544902497
No he needed a dead girlfriend because he's a new hedgehog with an S in his name.
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>>544902549
Rouge is nothing but a trophy wife when next to Shadow
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>>544900373
I don't find Barnes perfect, I just find him an improvement over Ian and Evan since those two are so focused on resurrecting Archie and inserting their headcanon. Barnes seems to actually enjoy the series outside of Archie.
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>>544902480
It's so on the nose it's hard to believe its not satire
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>>544902686
Fly in the Freedom describes her relationship to Shadow.
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>>544902636
We're saying that Blaze has nothing to do with this and can easily be replaced with his home or his people or his mission.
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>>544902636
Forcing him upon Blaze was a mistake.
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>>544902945
It's the opposite way around but i get you.
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>>544901545
>seethe about whitey
>wants to fuck whitey
Every time.
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The Chaotix comic was woke.
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How are there still posters here who deny that Surge likes Sonic? Serious. Have you been reading the fucking comic?
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>>544903182
It's just black panther but villain.
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>>544902945
>Shoving Blaze into a story that she has nothing to do with
>"why did they shove them upon her?"
You fucking virgin simps every time, no wonder women don't have any respect for us anymore.
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Evan has already admitted to running out of ideas and just makes up shit as she goes. Barnes is going to replace her since he has a vision and doesn't constantly whine about mandates.
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>>544903182
Sonic is woke.
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>>544903298
They don't read the comics, that's the issue.
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>>544901545
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The "in sync" trash really turns me off from ever liking Blaze with Silver. It is so painfully unnatural every time they do it like in that IDW story.
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>>544903560
No, sonic is retarded.
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>>544903673
It's because it's told, not shown. It'a artificial chemistry. It's like a brand.
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>>544903748
Exactly why I don't like it.
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The show would have been way better if she was the main human character. Or the Cripple.
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Wife Fiona.
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Give Barnes time and he will inevitably fuck up something.

I can put my signature on this, sonic is a cursed franchise.
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>>544902131
Honestly? I don’t blame em
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>>544903075
Fair. I'm racist against Mobians, which is why I want to sit on a throne made from their skulls, with Sally chained to said throne by her neck.
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>>544904078
>Or the Cripple.
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>>544902470
Give her her clothes back first
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>>544904342
just be sure no mobian is your surgeon.
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>>544902945
>>544903061
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Fiona is for____________
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>>544903298
Surge wanting to be a hero has nothing to do with her 'liking' Sonic. She appreciates the attention she receives, that is all.
Surge is for Kit.
>have you been reading the fucking comic?
Yeah, it's terrible. It's weird that you praise it as if it's a piece of artistic merit. It's brand slop. Crippled by both mandates and terrible writers who just want to make Archie but aren't allowed to.
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>>544904834
no one
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>>544904834
Correction
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>>544902131
>(cow)
Slampig is more like it
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>>544904404
Wait a second...
...
...
Why doens't the sonic series have any crippled characters...? Its been around for years you'd think there would be at least one. And no, mental illness doesn't count.
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What if Eggman used a high-tech doohickey to turn Sonic and his shitty friends into his slaves?
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>>544905562
Because cripples were added to be woke in the 90s and modern woke doesn't care about disabilities, it cares about sex and gender presentation.
The American Cultural Zeitgeist has evolved past the need for cripples.
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>>544905562
There was that one wheelchair girl in the comic.
But it's also a universe of advanced technology so they would almost certainly get prosthethics or robotic limbs instead.
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>>544905271
Sonic inspired her to become a hero, she thinks about him 24/7, it's in her programming. When she thinks about being a hero, she feels great, and when she feels that way, she's thinking about Sonic too.
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>>544905835
Sonic didn't 'inspire' her to be a 'hero'. Sonic himself isn't a self-declared hero. Sonic is a fun-loving adventurer, like the wind, who happens upon heroics.
Surge becomes invested in heroism and the identity of a 'hero' because she's selfish and likes receiving attention. Sonic, in contrast, is indifferent to attention.

It's weird to romanticize Surge's brainwashing as something romantic when that's a product of abuse. This also goes against the text of the comic since when Surge thinks about Sonic, she's shown to be visibly angry and reflecting on her conditioning can leave her incapacitated with only Kit able to soothe her spirit.

Surge is at her emotional peak when Sonic and Starline are far from her mind and she's immersed in the moment.
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>>544905562
Mind you
There's no characters with glasses
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>>544906405
Eggman wears glasses...
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I'm not trusting Barnes to write Silver at all.
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WHITEBOARD
https://magma.com/d/w0lDInhNKk
https://magma.com/d/w0lDInhNKk
https://magma.com/d/w0lDInhNKk
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>>544906494
Sure but any blobian?
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Sonic characters with THIS feel?
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This is a very interesting take on eggman. I'm surprised how much I like this. Eggman acts very much like an intelligent stubborn child who doesn't think very far ahead, and when things start getting out of hand, or specifically out of his control, it makes him nervous. I like this emphasis that he wants to "Beat" Sonic, not kill him, and everything that looks lethally dangerous only looks that way to us, like Eggman subconsciously knows it wouldn't be enough to do him in. He enjoys the game, in a fucked up way it kinda feels like he knows Sonic is the only person capable of being his Rival, and has this weird connection to him
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>>544906645
No one can
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>>544906814
Nite the Owl wears glasses.
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>>544906684
I sure love getting harassed for drawing
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Next Blitz update is Nov 10 according to twitter
>Le Soon
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>>544906889
Mostly because he looks white to him and that's enough for him to hate him.
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The model autism is so fucking annoying
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>>544906374
What do you think the conclusion of Surge and Kit's story is going to be? What writer at IDW do you think could pull it off the best?
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>>544907087
I haven't kept up with that game.
Anything new? I know they said on Twitter the Archie/Satam characters would be almost impossible or something like that.
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The Anti-Barnes posts are so artificial. I'm guessing it's Ianbros and Evanbros getting scared.
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>>544906864
I don’t. He can like fighting Sonic, but he should be happier if he was dead. He HATES Sonic.
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>>544907382
They survived the most recent update from 2 weeks ago, their content got updated, and Antoine got a "coming soon"
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>>544907505
Would be very funny if they end up happening.
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>>544907397
Pro-Barnes posts are so artificial if anything desu.
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>>544907087
>>544907505
Why do you keep getting hyped over unused copypasted Fandom wiki text
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>>544907505
>>544907702
The devs already said it wasn't happening and you faggots still cope.
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>>544906374
IDW Sonic IS a hero, do you even read the comics dude?
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>>544907772
>>544907787
I hope it happens to piss you off
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>>544907354
>What do you think the conclusion of Surge and Kit's story is going to be?
Shelved since they run out of ideas to do with them because the writers are talentless hacks.
<What writer at IDW do you think could pull it off the best?
Ian Flynn since he loves shelving characters once he doesn't know what to do with them anymore.
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>>544907772
I'm becoming certain at this point that the files are only kept just to attract an extra audience even though they're not going to commit. In other words, it's bait.
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>>544907787
SatAM fags have been coping for 30 years, they won't stop now.
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>>544907967
I would be happy for you if they use Archie characters again. I don't understand why you're hyped over unused copypasted text though
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>>544907763
Nah. One thing I noticed about Anti-Barnes posts is that they are unable to criticize his writing and only resort to ad hominems. That speaks for itself.
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>Sonic speaking AAVE
Shiver me timbers..
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>Surge gives an entirely correct put down of Sonic actively encouraging Eggman to continue his schemes despite being easily able to stop him, thus being just as resposible for Eggman's actions
>Sonic's rebuttal is "no way fag"
>Surge still becomes a hero after this
I hate Ian and Evan like you wouldn't believe
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>>544908126
Violet is anti-barnes and critiques his writing all the time as out of character and woke nonsense.
Why are you lying?
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There is no fucking way people can look at Hawkhawk and think "Yes, it's happening!"
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>>544908314
>violet
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>>544908314
Violet is bait and lies. I've never seen him talk about Barnes, but I'm sure it's full of subtle lies like everything else he posts.
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>>544907787
>The devs already said it wasn't happening
Where?
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>franchise is about running
>fans are fat fucks
>franchise is about friendship and acceptance
>fans are hateful warmongers who discriminate everything they don't like
>franchise is about altruism
>fans only look at their own shit pissing off the rest and to insert their own OCs
>franchise is about ecology and spiritualism
>fans are top tier polluters and slop consoomers
>franchise is about chilling
>fans are neurotic and histerical
Why is it always like this?
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>>544908290
>Ian critiques the setting because he's a fat redditor faggot
>Evan pushes her wholesome redemption slop because she's a fat tumblr dyke
bottom text
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>>544908290
The problem was trying to do a deconstruction of Sonic when they weren't allowed to do that.
They shouldn't have deconstructed the premise of "Sonic V.S. Eggman" if the comic is supposed to be canon and cannot meaningfully explore that.
Flynn has a poor sense of scope.
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>>544908781
Cute
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Sonic should have a token human friend or something.
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>>544908565
What has Violet lied about?
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>>544907223
No it’s because no one can write him because he’s a bad character
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>>544908894
>The problem was trying to do a deconstruction of Sonic when they weren't allowed to do that.
no, the problem is they're colossally stupid, creatively-bankrupt hacks. that's it. that's all it is. they're stupid. that's all. no, shut up, i'm right.
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>>544904834
Tiara
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>>544908708
People desire what they lack.
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>>544909046
Everything.
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>>544908894
>>544909097
Guys, guys, you're BOTH right
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>>544908708
>>544909139
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>>544908894
>>544909097
>>544909183
We ARE struggling together!
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>ME? liking TIARA?!?
>uh well... OF COURSE NO! maybe
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ian hates sonic the hedgehog and wants it to be something else, because he's stupid. he's stupid, but in the weaselly, phoney, insincere way where you say what people want to hear, like "well the crying wolf maybe isn't not an un-lesbian.........." and let other stupid people fill in the blanks. while hiding behind the big company and the MANDATES that totally exist for real. ohhhhh now i'm angry again about how stupid everything is
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>>544901781
>sonic kicking surge's ass is attraction
tranny delusion
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>>544908770
What do you think Barnes is gonna do?
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I am right, everyone else is wrong.
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>>544906816
Blaze
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>>544908290
ST/Sega approved ALL of this.

I wonder how they will translate it into Japanese, there are usually a lot of big localization changes when they translate the English scripts into Japanese.
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Mascot. Franchise.
Stop expecting shonen.
Stop expecting "development".
Stop expecting "growth" or a meaningful canon.
Slopnic the Brandhog exists to sell merchandise as an immortal icon.
Hello Kitty for boys.
Mickey Mouse, Japan.
This is the word of our creator Yuji Naka.

Sonic will never be more than this.
Once you accept this, you will find peace. The truth shall set you free.
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>>544909578
Nta, but replace the current comic audience with windchads and Sega will see how windy he is and have both him and Imada write the next Sonic game after giving Ian the boot.
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Sonic rape
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>>544909432
Ian's complained about the use of the term Mandates, and also if you listen, you'll see that he complained way less about Sega changing his plans with IDW than with Archie. This isn't to say that he claims they don't change with his plans, just that it appears that he has way less of an issue with the changes Sega asks for IDW era wise; he's salty about them having him rewrite shadow but pretty much everything else that he'd talk about he's been ambivalent at worse. Most of his salt towards Sega was back during the Archie era
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvwkA30896I Sonic's Last Life
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>>544892168
>the blow wouldve been soften had 06 not release 8 years prior
Anon, if 06 wasn't fucked by SoJ's meddling or the game had outright not been released, Boom would not have been a thing to begin with.
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I'm walking on sunshine.
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>>544909925
We never actually looked into if the japanese translation of the IDW has any notable changes to its script.
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>>544910075
woo hoo
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>>544910038
It's because he doesn't care about the IDW universe. He said on his old forums that he doesn't see the game universe carrying a comic.
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>>544880082
Light Blaze.
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>>544909925
>ST/Sega approved ALL of this.
That's not saying much. They've never been able to come through the book very thoroughly for anything besides Shadow.
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>>544910075
it's all about the sun and the rain, anon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_9FeMMlLZw
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>IDW Sonic artwork done on physical media instead of digitally
Yardley's earliest stuff (line art for his issue 1 cover, pencils for issues 1, 5, and 6)
Jim Amash and Bob Smith's inks for Yardley's early issues
All of Jon Gray's line art
the pencils for occasional page of Evan's (apparently she goes with whichever quicker for her at the moment)
all of Lamar Wells' pencils
all of Jack Lawrence's line art
Diana Skelly's issue 22 cover
Natalie Haines' issue 59 cover and Best of Shadow cover
Gigi Dutreix's issue 81 cover
Gigi's line art for issue 82
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>>544910731
I don't really care.
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>>544892194
Unleashed was heavily hated until recently.
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>>544910572
that's not "they don't have the manpower to review the books already being put out" but rather "we're only allowed to put out the amount of books they have the manpower to review"
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>>544910572
>a lot of specialized knowledge that only a handful of people currently have
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>>544910572
"We don't have anyone available to review the comics right now" reeks of "holy shit we don't care"
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>>544909096
Because they are writing him as a bad character in the first place genius! i'm not seeing crossworlds having any trouble with him.
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>>544910572
>need specialized knowledge
>they hire some random faggot on the internet to write for them
>sonic is never consistent
Specialized my ass.
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>>544892789
You're also forgetting that the game actually has fans. The most Boom has is a cartoon with some funny episodes, and Sticks, who people want in the main series instead of Boom.
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It is time to once again realize, how much little care Sonic is given.
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>>544909945
>Stop expecting shonen.
No. Sonic is the cool Mickey Mouse, and "Mickey Mouse" is what shonen characters like Goku and Luffy are.
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>>544911041
The idea is that they need an old Japanese man who's memorized factoids like Sparky or Violet have to review every script to make sure it's in line with the 'vision'.
The issue is. The reviewers just kind of skim and don't give a fuck and only point out something if it's egregious.
>>544910939
They could most definitely just make a lore bible that contains everything about each character's personality and how they should be written for writers to use. But because the people with 'specialized knowledge' want to keep their job within the company, they gatekeep this 'truth' and make all writers have to go through them so that way they keep their job.
It's self-serving inefficiency and incompetence.
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>>544910939
lol
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It is time we forgive Bobo for not knowing how to draw other things.
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>>544909945
The problem is that Sonic Team doesn't want Sonic to be a mascot franchise, they see classic as pandering.
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just as a reminder, Sonic is supposed to be more like Felix the Cat instead of Micky Mouse
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>>544911381
>The reviewers just kind of skim and don't give a fuck and only point out something if it's egregious.
IT'S NOT FAIR I WANT A JOB LIKE THIS
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>>544911381
>or Violet
Nice try, Violet.
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>>544911215
Goku and Luffy have nothing in common with Mickey Mouse.
You're literally insane, Sparky. Shut up.
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>>544910939
>I'm just here to make it look like the company has active employees
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>>544911691
You know don't know what Mickey Mouse actually is or what I really mean when I talk about any of these characters.
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>>544911687
Not your boogieman, I was making fun of the autistic freak. Not praising him.
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>>544911796
Nice try, Violet.
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>>544911908
Are Felix, Mickey or Donald popular in Japan?
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>>544910143
>TL:“Hedgehog” Means hedgehog. Did you know they're closer to moles than mice?

A simple comparison, is this a big change?
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You punks actually participate in NNN?
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>>544911678
sonic is supposed to be herrokitty for shounen. anything else is off brand
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>>544911678
Felix -> Oswald -> Mickey -> Proto-Rabbit Sonic -> Sonic
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>>544912123
No because I don't want prostate cancer
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>>544912209
>Proto-Rabbit Sonic
His name is rush
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>>544911908
I haven't seen some of these comparison pics before, interesting that Donald was also an influence on Sonic
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>>544912310
I like thinking of him as "Mach" from the rock band.
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>>544912123
Sometimes it's fun to do stuff just because you can. And also come Dec 1st it's like your soul is leaving your body lol.
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>>544912116
The japanese version is more in-depth, I guess.
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>>544912101
They were all popular in Japan around the time Sonic was made.
There is a Disneyworld Japan for a reason.
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>>544912209
you forgot to add Bubsy after Sonic and then the family tree will be complete
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>>544912101
I dunno. Has Santa Claus ever been popular in Japan?
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>>544912464
If you need to abstain for a month to feel any kind of blissful orgasm, you're doing it wrong.
Consider edging for an hour, you get the same effect.
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>>544912325
Donald is just half of Mickey. The other half is Goofy. To have the true Mickey, you need Donald + Goofy.

What Mickey is commonly thought of nowadays is without the Donald side or the Goofy side. Sonic, from my perspective at least, feels like the "True" Mickey with both the Donald side and the Goofy side... with the extra addition of 'Coolness' that takes the concept further into through the Shonen evolution of characters like Goku.
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>>544912101
>>544912670
Ohshima was a big westaboo. If it weren't for him, Sonic would have looked like picrel.
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Westaboo franchise for westaboo asians.
Weeaboos don't understand Sonic. They come at it from the completely opposite angle.
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>>544912805
Damn this game is gonna be hot for the 3 days people actually play it
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>>544912101
I know they like Disney at least
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>>544912310
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF BLAZEFAG
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>>544912921
No.
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>>544912921
So basically, Sonic is KING Mickey.
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>>544912709
>Consider edging for an hour, you get the same effect.
I'm not a doctor but i feel like you gonna break your cock if you do shit like this regularly
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>>544912709
oh my god fuck off and stop Well Actually'ing.
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>"This city of water... Why does it make my heart ache?"
>*a weight pops out of a portal and flattens Silver into a pancake and he flutters to the ground*
>"Sorry Mr. Silver!"
thanks shoneniggers
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How would Sonic and Knuckles' rivalry be like... if Knuckles represented Mario?
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>>544908286
>Sonic being written to say 'banger, ong, fr fr no cap, y'all' to try to appeal to the illiterate zoomers
No, thanks. I'll pass
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Good mornin'
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>>544912868
so while Disney brand fails and Mickey Mouse goes public, Sonic lives on as the WIND
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>>544913132
You'll be fine
>>544913157
Damn, sorry for bursting your reddit meme bubble, I guess
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>>544912805
>that animation
It's cooked from the start.
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Mickey WAS cool in the 20s and 30s.
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>>544913379
good morning amyanon
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>>544860192
cute vector
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>>544913397
Sonic is not only the "cooler" Mickey Mouse, he is the true spirit of Mickey Mouse... Reborn and evolved.

And if SEGA's brand fails... then this spirit will simply be reborn yet again. Just like the laws of thermodynamics, it can not be destroyed... only change forms.
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>>544913741
The laws of thermodynamics state that the heat death of the universe is inevitable.
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SONIC IS NOT HELLOKITTY
SONIC IS NOT FELIX
SONIC IS NOT MICKEY MOUSE
SONIC IS NOT BUGS BUNNY
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Sonic is Sonic.
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>>544913591
Sonic WAS cool in the 90s and 2000s
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I think sonic is a nigger.
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Sparky's sparkledog rainbow vomit OCs would get attention if he made them into an FNF mod.
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>>544914465
good thing I don't consider anything past the gamecube/ps2 era canon
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>>544912878
If they went with this Sonic would have probably would have transitioned to Modern easier and would be more popular in Japan.
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>>544906684
Let's see how many times that guy will say "garbage" this time.
(I'll say at least 50)
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>>544915079
>>544915079
>>544915079
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I have some hnnn unghh ah projects.. to nngh finish...
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>>544915037
No one has the motivation to do art there anymore
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>>544915185
Gee, I wonder why?
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>>544911009
He was always bad
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>>544908894
>Using holly like it's mistletoe
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>>544913446
cartoons are based



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