hopechuds edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>544918597
oh you motherfuckers, listen: steam revenue calculator says trainwiz made 43 fucking grand net from 366 reviews at $19.99. HE is fucking saying that he has fucking netted 300 fucking grand. now use your retarded brain and wonder for yourself for a moment, how in the FUCK, could he possibly net 300 fucking grand off of a review estimation of 43 fucking grand? riddle me that one, retards. we're talking 7 fucking times difference.
Face it, if you’re not making slot machines marketed toward 8 year old children, your game is absolutely gonna fail.
I feel uninspired.I think I'll take a short break, probably wind up back in engine in a few hours.
>>544981938checking 256fes is actually incredible
>>544982231You're being sarcastic but if your game doesn't make it on youtubeshorts/tiktok just project hop, look at this:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_5njxCKCYlg2 millions views with 11 followers but a youtube and a discord
>>544982461i don't watch shorts because i'm not a zoomer. also 2 million short views translates to about 234 normal views
>>544981938>mfw i thought this game would do well >it flopped so hard they removed it from the store and you cant even play it anymorelife of a flopdev with flopdev instincts
>>544982541I don't give a shit about the platform as long as I get eyes on my game and he literally shows that having a small community that consumes your shortform content is more valuable than followers, probably even wishlists nowadays.
>>544982461Thanks for the tip. I’ll throw $500 of my marketing budget toward TikTok.
>>544982202What kind of mental illness is this called?
>>544982231>toward 8 year old children
How expensive can 30 seconds of a Zoomer playing my game actually be?
>>544982923Idk what's gonna happen with the israeli takeover of tiktok but you have to be dumb not to make one as a solodev.
This whole game is going to end up costing me $20s of dollars.
>>544982648Why remove it from sale does it cost to keep a game up?
>2 million short views translates to about 234 normal viewsthe level of cope and reality denying is hilarious with the crab goreposter
https://steamdb.info/app/2592220/charts/#maxcuffbust 24h peak is now in double digits, can he recover? i feel like youtubers have a higher chance of pulling a comeback
Are the schizos developing psyops into independently developed video games in the thread with you know?
>>544982648it's mistover...
>>544983336I feel my cuff being busted...
>>544982937It's called "why you never reply to schizos"
skill = learning ability * effort + talent
I wanted to warn about a scam going on the v3expo discord some moderator is pming users and offering to give away 1 year of claude code and comet browser to make gamedev easier. They then give you invite link to comet browser which gets them 3 dollars and then they tell you to login with your gmail account, they tell you to login on mobile first to sync your mobile data like gmail, contacts, etc to it. Then this google account will be connected across multiple devices and they will steal your your data.I tried telling the owner of the discord but he blocked my private messages.
>>544983429+ money
I CUFFBUSTED NIGGA
>build a system for a third person RE style game so I can make a dino crisis ripoff>dinos are surprisingly hard to implement especially bigger dinos>start thinking of directions to pivot...The Thing? Lovecraft?
>small debugging session>fast forward 2 hours later and still no fix
>>544983765chatjippity will fix it
Instead of listening to all the indie game analysts in this thread, just understand at some like a professional studio, you will need to pay a group of people to play your game for quality, feedback, and marketing. Saving a small budget for this would multiply any good work you have already done.
Reminder to use good keywords
>>544983336he has his nose to the grind stone, huge free update coming with 10 incredible maps. using his money and clout, he's been in touch with some of the industries best level designers and got them on board for this update. not only that, for the launch of the update he has organized a celebrity jail break stream, featuring Henry Cavill, Terry Crews, and Jack Black, and Snoop Dogg.
I can't make a game because I'm lonely.
>>544984036>>544983336>nepo baby has social net and survives fallwowzers
>>544984085That’s why you’re making it with us. We’re all making our own games alone together.
>>544984036All that from a train game...
>>544982303right?I'm doing the challenge while learning, it's a little hard but is very satisfying
>>544984148Can I see yours?
>>544984250Nope, you’re interrupting it actually.
>>544984174cris is better
>>544982541>2 million short views translates to about 234 normal viewsI hope this is a joke, otherwise this is one of the mos delusional takes I ever read in this general.
wtf the addon i'm using broke
>>544984498I'm not delusional fuck you
i will not make youtube shortsi will not devlog i will not make a tiktoki will not tweet or bluesky
>>544982202you alright unc
>>544984589>addons
>>544982979we need to ask why people love picking between 3 items but hate picking 2 or 4 btw
luddite xisters I do't feel so good
>>544984730the 4th option is reroll/recycle
>no progress no devs>I don’t feel so good
>>544984737Looks like shit
>>544984737actually i identify as ludditefluid (sometimes i love AI sometimes i hate it)
>>544984174god I wish I could make good textures
>>544984174the only thing i dislike is the hands, i guess you can get away with it but bleh
>>544984847where is yours?
how do you promote a game on tiktok or shorts if the format is in portrait mode but your game is in landscape? it's literally impossible.
>>544982202The estimates are probably wrong.
i might have gamedev and insomnia induced dementia
>>544984730why? you can count to three so present 3 options to pick and no problem
Is DDM here?
nom nom nom
>>544984730I'm doing 2 and 4. it kinda averages out to 3...
>>544985006same
>>544985123where is yours?
>>544986036Okay and where is your textured 3d model?
>>544985006>god I wish I could make good texturesThe secret to good art is taking your time. A lot of people expect to wham bam it... Real OGs put sweat, tears and long nights into creating cool art.
>>544985762Prompt?
Hello, I'm here for a random progress inspection
>>544986251progress inspection day...
>>544986171where is yours?
>>544986176I've put a lot of hours into 3D modeling and can make decent low poly stuff but I haven't practiced 2D art in a long time and I don't have a tablet ._. I might get one but I've just been going with pixel art with my mouse or just gradients
>>544986415No its just in general. There id one progress post so far. Just people talking about their game snd posting it on discord.
>>544986353
I'm no good at making games, but I have money.Is there something I can do with that?Anything indie devs can't afford / don't want to deal with that they'd be willing to sign off part of their sales and IP for?
im modeling inside blender 4.0 right now, i cant post any progress (it would spoil what game im working on(its a secret project))
>>544986528You don't need a tablet for most texturing. I only use tablet to draw curves. The rest I paint with mouse. It's faster and more precise. Tablet is just good at long strokes that vary.
>>544982202>using the boxleiter method
>>544986171here, it's still in processI'm still struggling doing the unwrapping since I don't have a lot of space, and making textures that looks good is difficult too
>>544987823then hire devs/ art people to make game
>>544988204it's roughly correct for both of my games.
>>544988426It's like a fifth of what my game is.
>ah, progress
It's time to put influencers into a big spreadsheet so i can send out steam keys in 6 months.
>>544987823I need an investor yes. Do you have an email?
>now with more progress!
>>544990539>ahhh i have to make gamesloppp!!!!
>blow has been raiding arcs for 9 hoursgenuinely surprising.
>>544990443here's a throwaway one: widire9364@filipx.com
>>544990764what would a jon blow designed fps be like?
>>544990806Got it will e-mail you soon thanks
>>544990539>BitcoinYou know what that is.>BitCoinCoinA cyptotoken minted on the ethereum network blockchain.>BitBitCoinAn encryption technology using bitcoin.>BitBitCoinCoinAn encryption technology using a cyptotoken minted on the ethereum network blockchain.>BitBitCoinCoinCoinA cyptotoken spent within an encryption technology using a cyptotoken minted on the ethereum network blockchain.>BitBitBitCoinCoinCoinAn encryption technology using a cyptotoken spent within an encryption technology using a cyptotoken minted on the ethereum network blockchain.
Post your minimum viable game for free on Steam.If no one's playing it then work on something else.If it's getting players then keep adding content and keep increasing the price like Factorio.What's the downside to this approach?
>>544991006>BitBitBitCoinCoinCoinAn encryption technology using a cyptotoken spent within an encryption technology using a cyptotoken minted on the ethereum network blockchainIN POG FORM! LIMITED EDITION!
>>544991025>Overwhelmingly NegativeGame used to be free, developer is a sellout.
>>544987823You're gonna get shilled junk here. you should try scouting subreddits/twitter and ask people(There's also demo day on friday), if you're gonna be serious about it. and if you are and have 400k to give to 5-10 people, start a proper company/publisher account with steam.
>>544991025>work on something else>no one plays it>work on something else else>again no one plays it>work on something else else else>no one plays it
>>544991089That would be BitBitBitCoinCoinCoinNFT.
>>544991215I only have bitbitbitbcoincoincoin.com. bitbitbitcoincoincoinNFT.com and .net are all yours.
>>544991025no one wants to play a minimum viable product, so you'll never get any audience.they want it to be good with lots of content from the start.
Bitbitbitcoincoincoin.net will have all technical specifications to tie into the network and mint your own POGs, frog cards, and accept payments via the bitbitbitcoincoincoin network.
how retarded am I for deciding to drop out so I can make my game? I feel like it's the only thing I can actually work on all day without wanting to die
>>544991545You’re going to need a lot of help if you want to finish it.
>>544991545I want to drop out so badly but I have to keep going or else I will disappoint my family and I guess I also need a degree to get a job that will allow me to dev on the side. It's probably not a good idea.
What makes up good marketing vs bad marketing?How does one classify the quality of marketing?
why the fuck am i bothering with game dev? just to suffer? my ideas are shit, i’m shit, the market is oversaturated, i should just die
>>544991141thanks for the suggestions.and what do you think are the services I should be offering?I can think of :- paying for freelances for extra / better assets (art, music, etc)- paying for console porting services (I hear those can be pretty pricey)- marketing- publishing cost (steam is only a couple hundred bucks, not sure how expensive they are on other platforms)anything else?
>>544991392I actually made a frog card generator by the way.
>>544991826Python? Mines gonna be on the back end.
>>544983765No such thing as a "small debugging session". Each time you are going on a hunt, and will stalk your prey across the code blocks. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. Don't give up.
>>544991790I'm just a dev who hasn't found success yet. dunno how the publishing business works.
>>544991870Yeah it's python.I made 11 rarity images for that.
Every time a bitbitbitcoincoincoin gets minted, a certificate of ownership and authenticity gets printed out and falls into a slit in my safe, and you can watch it live on camera.
>>544991392
>>544992032but as dev, you'd be my client. so what would you want from a publisher / producer? what would you hire me for?
>>544992153I also be hosting the clients on itch.io for everyone’s sake.
The released games will be in meme form, directly playable with a QR code and link to itch.io to play them.
>>544991687why and how would you make time to dev while having a decent career path you invested time and effort getting into? It would make more sense to pick one and fully focus on that
>>544991741good marketing targets your audience. speaks to their heart, shows them fun things you can do in the game often. bad marketing spams 5 game related reddit subs with a trailer* one evening and cries himself to sleep.*the trailer opens with a black screen with a white text philosophy quote. it fades out with a dissolve, the 'studio' name fades in, holds for 5 seconds, fades to black, following that, 5 separate slow panning environment shots while horns_epic_battle_005.mp3 plays. 30 seconds into the trailer, cut to the game being played with erratic camera movement, and a synty knight fighting an enemy with the miaximo 360 over the shoulder strike sword animation.
TRVKE Part 2 just dropped https://youtu.be/zNGhfPFresw
>>544992092the worst poster in decades
>>544992210What you mentioned. localization to chinese, japanese is huge, german and spanish after.I think you usually hand the devs money and let them source freelancers/just live off the money but offering your help is fine. publishers are supposed to have better connections.
this is how you actually advertise https://www.youtube.com/@ericalfaro3318/videosnot by becoming a failuredev grifter making "tutorials"
>>544992382Because game dev won't put food on the table nor a roof over my head, I will need a job for that.
>>544992547glimmerwick is in trouble isn't it...
>>544992210I emailed you I'm ready to talk biz.
>>544984730>>544982979>tfw you hate the number 3 but have to put money on the tablesometimes I even skip 3 when I number variables
>>544992581
>>544992547Bellular made this video today, Steam is changing it's discoverability stuff which means they acknowledge there's an issue and indie devs are getting massacred.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_fajUuIHF0
>>544992942no fucking way... drone technology has improved way too much
>>544993019He took a shit in my mail box then just a flew away!
>>544992942
>>544992968retarded garbage video holy shit what a pointless scourthrough
>>544993220>HEY KIDS! STEAL YOUR PARENTS CREDIT CARDS AND BUY THE GAME THATS BANNED IN 12 COUNTRIES!
>>544992942why isn't this a game yet?
>>544993330That’s guaranteed buy from me. I’d even get in on the publishing rights if I had a shot.
>>544992672thanks for all the advice, man.I don't think I could give someone enough money to "live off" / pay him a salary. at least not for a first-world living standard.realistically, my clients would only be small indies, at least at first.so the best we can hope for is a couple grand in sales, which therefor is also how much I can give them at most without losing any money myself.
>>544993410Seriously, if someone one wantsto start on the artwork, we’ll just copy the game mechanics from Desert Combat on genesis and use my isometric engine. We can incorporate bitbitbitcoincoincoin into it. I have military aviation experience, so we can credit me as a military advisor.
>>544993607Little cat drone strikes on Ukrainian trenches, it’ll be perfect. I want to be the Alex Jones of game development.
>>544982231i'm betting on the autistic retard demographic to enjoy my grindslop
>>544991545Depends, post some progress.
>>544984618you will not make money
>>544993312You must be 18 or older to post on this website.
>YOU HAVE TO BUY GAMES DIRECT FROM MY WEBSITE ON USB DRIVES!>OR ELSE THE FURRIES OR THE NSA ARE GONNA SPY ON US WARGAMING THE INSURGECY WITH KITTY CAT DRONES!
>>544990887destiny or borderlands, autists love grindslop, i'll keep saying this until it makes me richautism + grindslop = success
>>544993949just scaroused this post didnt like anything in it
>>544991025free games on steam can't be changed to cost money
>>544985762That's a rather big boss for a rather small arena.
i refresh my games twitch page 60 times a day to see if somebody is streaming it (nobody ever does)
>>544994106>Base price minimum: USD 0.99 or equivalent in each currency. Discount base minimum: USD 0.49 or equivalent in each currency.damn
>>544991545it depends on how seriously you take itif you're going to spend 5 years making retarded unwanted aspergers passion project hyperniche fantasy art slop then you may as well give up and send yourself to the ukranian frontlinesbut if you're willing to do market research, study game design, and formulate an effective advertisement strategy to ensure your game is promoted towards and designed for a viable and verified target audience then you'll at least have a reasonable shot at making enough money to fund development for a few more gamessuccess is never guaranteed in this industrynever ever ever
>>544985762>>544994228I didn't even see jusha post. is it an enemy or a shop?
>>544985762KINOOOOO
>>544982303none of those 256fes models are ever gonna be used in a game because the twitter """artists"""" posting this shit are too subhumanized to make a game.
>>544991025To most people their time and attention is more valuable than money, they are likely to buy games and not play them.
>>544984609You're talking to unironic paid shills. Join the rat race so their kike master can buy a tenth superyacht.
38% of people who purchased and launched cruelty squad on Steam have completed the first mission available after the tutorial38%people don't play video gamesthey purchase products they see in advertisementsthey do not play video gamesimagine a hoarder
>>544992385>good marketing targets your audience. speaks to their heart, shows them fun things you can do in the game often>good marketing is good marketingkys retard
>>544995201I don't have time to play games. I launch a shooter I played million times before for 30 minutes and that's all the time I can spare.
How can i make skin textures like in korean/chinese mmos ff7remake stellar blade that gives it a slight anime look? all tutorials are either full anime full cartoon or super realistic with pores and everything.
>>544995558Just imitate magazine covers, with airbrushed women on them.
Fatfuck gabencunt is responsible for this.
>>544992547Never mind. It was a shit video
>>544995512extra greentext was real in your head only. ignore my excellent advice at your perilyeah right, you are a nodev
>>544995924does your game look like it would make a million dollars?
>random video with personal rants that ends suddenly without discussing anythinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MVnCCPYsYkIs our bearchad losing it?
>>544995727shadow-drop a multiplayer gamemight be one of the dumbest moves I've seen an aggydagger do.
>>544992709Yeah, looks like generic cozyslop
>>544996009>extra greentext was real in your head only. >ignore my excellent advice at your peril>yeah right, you are a nodev
>>544996324
>>544996269it has a lot of wishlists... he's gotta hold on to his cuffs... lest they are busted.
>>544994228>>544994452it's just a cute npc, not a boss>>544994512THANKSSSS
>>544991545Drop out of what? College? Or your job? There's a window of opportunity where companies are willing to hire anyone under 26 (assuming they got the good goy diploma) on the assumption that they can train them to be a good fit for the company. If you drop out of college and just do your own stuff and fail, you might miss that and getting jobs will be incredibly harder afterwards. Meanwhile having some years of experience on your resume before quitting your job, would make you an easier hire later.But if you think you can handle it, go ahead I guess, #yolo. Gabe also dropped out of college to work at Microsoft.
>>544996663>Gabe also dropped out of college to work at Microsoft.He was hired, and then stopped going to college.
>>544996645I'm hungry
>>544992968The comments in this video are downright macabre. So many brainless drones, holy shit.
I should get into game dev.Maybe that'll give my neet ass something to do and be less depressed.
For me? It's Thomas Brush's Twisted Tower.
i cant share progress because my detractors will crab on me
>>544997212what are your strengths? skills?
>>544997212
>>544997386same. not just crab, dox and call my publisher. all because my game looks like it would make 1 million dollars.
>>544997302Is that a metaphor for penis?
>>544997386>>544997492>crab frightenedngmi
>>544997387Rotting, and of course, stereotypically, I'm an ideas guy.I think it'd be fun though, make a little top down action game for myself to build experience.
>>544997669I don't want a hugbox, I just don't want the dox. I'm easily doxxable because I won some awards.
>>544992968Oh so they finally admot that I was right the whole time. You just know the steam fanboys will suddenly bend like a fiddle and say it was wrong all along while moments before this vid appeared they'd be staunchly arguing that I'm wrong and Gabe is never ever wrong unless of course he admits it.
I am looking for a game developer, are there any game developers in here? All I see is money grubbing grifters and schizos.
>>544997212Gamedev is one of the hardest things a human being could possibly accomplish. You're in no state to attempt it.
>>544998979Imma try anyway.
>>544998938I am enginedev
>>544998938I'm a game developer who needs to make money to live on.
My game is going to get delisted from steam in 2-3 months.
>>544999413Why?
>>544998938>cant progress post>making progress>put your pants back on, loser.
>>544998539Anon, Steamies are the most subhuman, soulless drones on the planet. They don't think at all.Don't try to rationalize their behaviour ever. Just treat them the way you treat insects.Vidrel guy is unironically more sapient than the average steamie.
>>544999279You can survive on meager earnings. If you're making a balatro survivors idle like game or anything of the such you don't "need money", you WANT wealth.
>>544999503
How to sell game without steam?Burn it to CD and mail it out to people?
>>544999437I got fucked over.
>>544999413Do an asset swap and put it back up there.Maybe you're lucky and it'll sell better.
>>544999623>You can survive on meager earnings.I need around $35k a year after taxes where I live. And merely surviving in life isn't good enough, what kind of a life is that? What if I want to start a family or help my parents?
>>544999782>Maybe you're luckyGiven my prior track record I'm the unluckiest man on earth.
>>544999856
>>544999951Or gamedev can be my job.
>>544999658who has a cd drive in 2025? sell the game on your website.
>>545000257>sell the game on your website.Yeah but with what kinda infrastructure?Do I give the user a unique download link? Or work with a key to activate the game? I don't know how any of that works and how secure it is or how to deal with payments.
>>544999856imagine unironically raising a family with gamedev.even if you make a successful game, that is no guarantee that the next will do well, or the one after that, and so onat least aaa gamedevs move into non-game jobs when they want stability. indies have no such luxury.
coding is hard, if you cant vibe code something, you're stuck
>>545001161You just need one (1) big hit like minecraft and all is good.
>>545001506
>>545001506Then your wife just divorces you and takes half your fortune. For women to value you, you need to be a breadwinner not a bread haver
https://vocaroo.com/1gNFD4OxHVM0made a soundtrack for my game
>>544992547>Eastshade guy, Thomas Brush, Cuckbust>devs that all got lucky during indie goldrushMark my words, all their games will flop in this new era. It doesn't matter if they have 100k+ wishlists
>>545001059it's over. there's no way to find out that stuff
>>545001161to raise a family you need either fuck-you-money or to be employable no matter what.I think that $2M in the bank would be fuck you money for me by living off of investments. anything less than that and I'd still have a day job most of the time.
>>545002064
>just make games for yourself bro! don't get in gamedev for money and fame!Only a nodev would say this. The people getting into gamedev exclusively for money/fame are only a small portion of indie devs. The majority are indeed enthusiasts who genuinely want to make games. But at some point, you have to go up a notch with your games' depth, complexity and fidelity as you get more proficient. And this increased complexity and depth requires more effort, so it's only natural to want more recognition for more effort put in, let alone money. Given that the modern indie market doesn't give you either, unless you quite literally invest an entire monthly salary into marketing just to get noticed (note that I said noticed, not even succeed and make money), it's no wonder why so many people are disappointed and blame Steam, as the market is obviously rigged towards those with shitloads of money and connections, something not every indie dev will have. Playing a rigged game is retarded. Playing a rigged game where you have to invest x1000 more effort for minimal output is even more retarded. End of story.
>>545002068the new era is mostly the same as the old era. they got lucky so they'll need to get lucky again or their games will flop as small indie games do by default.
>>545001161devs in that situation rely on investors for funding, become triple-A studios, hire consultants, and/or enter the mobile marketthey treat it like a real business, not gambling on their passion projects doing wellif you have investors and your game fails, you just get a normal job after, the money isn't your problem
>>545002410Usually it's NEET losers leeching off their parents. They never have to worry about rent, groceries or bills. They spend years “working” on endless passion projects, forever tinkering but never finishing their half-baked game prototypes. No roadmap, no deadlines, no real plan. Just perpetual hobbydevving dressed up as ambition, fueled by free meals and zero responsibility.
>>544998539it feels extremely vindicating to hear people finally admit this
wanting fame seems bizarre to me. I want the opposite. my game could be famous, but not me.
>545002757Lowest IQ post in this thread yet.
>>545002674trvth
https://youtu.be/x_fajUuIHF0?t=460>one billion dollars spent on marketing for monopoly gohow can we compete?
It's so odd. I feel like I'm doing really good progress very quickly and have gotten extremely far with my game but at the same time I feel like I'm years away from being finished. I guess code and systems are just quick as hell to do and actually making assets will be what takes me years
>>545003186that's a lot of grannies...
>>545003186This was already posted here.
>>545002068Guys I think... If you have 100k wishlists, just don't fumble the ball through the sheer hubris of releasing your game for $20, with 10 mins of content and a level editor in the hopes that your community will just make content for you, and also release day1 DLC and a plushy.Brush, a humble Christian man, would never make such a mistake. His game might just suck I dunno it doesn't interest me. I dunno who the other guy is.
grindslop for games with themes that appeal to autistsgambleslop for games with themes that appeal to normies>>545003532the post didn't highlight that point
>>545002817What makes you feel that way?
>>545003186By making a better game.
Why don't indie devs make actually unique and experimental games instead of just another FPS, just another pixel platformer, just another cozy womanbait game, just another jrpg? Some of the most successful indie games like Devil Daggers, Rain World, Cruelty squad, Hylics, are so because they do things no other game does or has a unique style and setting
>cruelty squad>unique
>>544992767same
>>545004094>just be smarter broit's too difficult
If Steme doesn't have a visibility problem, explain why are they doing this.
>>545004094Originality is overrated.
>>545004218revenueslop
>>545004257Buy unoriginal indie games fail because they're just the same as AAA but without the quality and polish of AAA
>>545004330Original indie games that are unpolished and low quality can also fail even if they are original.
>>545002410>Only a nodev would say this. The people getting into gamedev exclusively for money/fame are only a small portion of indie devs. The majority are indeed enthusiasts who genuinely want to make games.I don't think so. Enthusiasts don't need to be told to be enthusiasts. It's the brownoid thirdies and retarded redditor kids who need to be told that gamedev isn't a get rich quick scheme and if you are gonna make it you basically need to be an enthusiast. And you can't be an enthusiast while you're obsessed with making money.>le rigged gameretard
All those words and not a single coherent thought in them.
>>545004720>>545004720>brownoid thirdies and retarded redditor kidsthey will fail
six seven
>>544984631>uncyour zoomer gf with daddy issues secretly fantasizes about feeling fully stuffed by my thicc unc shaft, zoomer.
my taste in video games is very...weird...
>>545005579What do you like?
>>545005665RPGs with absurdly long highly repetitive grinds or team-based pvp games with large playerbases
>>544983370https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNK8Y3oZuI
When my game makes it I'll finally get a girlfriend and lose my virginity. I'll finally feel like I deserve to exist and stop hating myself
>>544993607Kino game, sovlful art.
>>545005732Maple story had absurdly high grinding back in the day. Like "collect 1000 of those items" and it had like a drop chance of like 10% in a certain area.
>>545006191Same...
>>545004257you need to make games for more specific niches that big studios can't cater to. but the niches need to be big enough otherwise you won't be able to make any kind of living from gamedev. it's a delicate balance>>545006191you know she's been putting out for undeserving guys since middle school. why should (You) have to do anything to deserve her?
>>545006191>I can't wait to betabuxx for a single mom in my forties just like my multi millionaire idol Tarn Adams
>>545006191lol
>>545006191Before I get a girlfriend, I will fuck so many MILF hookers first. Just to get it out of my system.
>>545006191>I'll finally feel like I deserve to exist and stop hating myselfYou do deserve to existYou are worthy of loveYou don't need to make a game to prove any of that.
>>545006968>>545006984I'm not retarded. I hate women and don't trust them so I won't let anyone close for reasons like that and I won't pay for their shit
>>545006984speaking of
>>545007539Thank you. But I am still alone and unloved and have been for my entire life, it's not fun.
>>545007614
>>545007614tbqhwyf
>>544998539Nah they just think they'll be the different one and they won't get fucked by valve's algorithm changes.
>>545007230Can recommend. Kneeding and sucking some bra size h knockers of a 40 something year old milf is so good.
>>545007895>>545007901alright
>>545007785Kek this 100%
>>545007572dwarf fortress was free pre-steam. their income was 100 percent donations.
>>545003186>all the fuckwits in the comments saying its okay because they use wishlists as a sale remindergreat, retard, but valve uses it to gauge visibility at launch so you aren't using it the way they want, and indies aren't using it the way valve wants eithermaybe instead of fucking coming up with a new page to funnel users to so you can show them megabonk some more, how about starting with a system that isnt dogshit for everyone
>>545007671I know. But making a game won't change that. If you want to fix your life, get a job, if you have a job get a better job, stop being a loser, learn social skills and body language from books if necessary and attend social events and groups IRL instead of spending 18 hours a day on the internet. There's no "I released my game and I got isekai'd into my dream life" moment, it's gradual improvement one day at a time.Lets say you make your game and you're mega successful and suddenly have wealth and fame, you'll discover ways of suffering that you didn't even know were possible. You think some cosplaying girl is going to tiptoe up to you at a convention and ask to be your gf? You think she's just going to love you because you made a game? Best case scenario is she's a golddigger, worst case scenario she's a content creator trying to manufacture drama and increase her own audience by accusing a high profile gamedev of sexual harassment. The world of wealth and fame is a pvp enabled battlezone and someone who struggles to play the game on normal mode is going to get slaughtered.
Please do the needful /agdg/ and make some coomer games
>>545008493here's the game:>open browser>click google>type in boob>get 50 billion resultscongratulations you won.
>>544984737now just to vibe code some players and vibe code some revenue
>>544984737mogged by two worlds 1
>>544985762he is not grabbing anythinghe will continue being hungry and continue trying to satiate his hunger foreverwhy would you create a world with so much pain in it
>>545008493No to full coomer games but your game should have at least one sexy hag minimum
>>544992968Valve thinks the problem with visibility is megabonk isn't on the front page enough.
>>545008739>"Hello ChatGPT! I just released my game on Steam. Can you buy it to support me? Here is a link!">suddenly get 5000 salesIts that easy
>>545008906
>>544997302>meh cookie-cutter shooting mechanics>meh storyI really hope Thomas doesn't think of this as more than just a hobby project. He doesn't actually think it's gonna be really successful, right?
>>545008493Only if I learn how to make art of this quality.
Who's the cutest bocchisissy in the thread
>>545009034I believe most players got what they want out of it from the demo. I doubt they'll return when it's released.
>>545008493>>545008868>>545008906>>545009056I look like this
>>545009104Me.
>>545009684Cute! I bet you shave you legs and wear a cage
>>544992968>top commentI know its bad to have visceral contempt for your potential customers but man, they make it so easy.We basically have to charge less than the price of a bigmac meal because nobody has any fucking money, there's too many games coming out, buying just one of the dozens of AAA games that release each month is going to occupy most people's disposable income, and if you do try to charge more there's always going to be some chinks willing to undercut you while ordering their bugmen fans to coordinate their buying habits to game the Steam algo to put their stupid duck tarkov game on the front page. And then on top of that these entitled pricks are like "maybe the price of a bigmac meal is too rich for my blood... wake me up when its 50% off, I can just about manage the price of a starbucks coffee" - honestly fuck these people.
>>545009989hobby
>>545009989I want steampigs to stop giving their opinion on how the store works.>um stop trying to get me to wishlist lol I just click every button I seeFucking valve wants us to do this. Yeah a calendar is going to fucking work wonders with a userbase that can't read.
>>545009989I think it's entirely fair to charge less than a big mac meal for a personal revocable, non-sublicensable, non-transferable and non-exclusive license to access a digital game.
>>545009989You haven't seen nothing. Scroll down further and even Hitler and Putin will have to tell you to slow down your genocidal urges after reading the average steamie drivel.
>>545009989this is why F2P is the future, unironically. There's no wishlist friction, you just download the game if it looks interesting.
gamedev
>>545010323>this is why F2P is the future, unironicallysteamie subhumans will still demand AAA tier games with 100 of hours of fully animated and voice acted cutscenes and gameplay for free.
>>>544950062>>>544955607which one of you progress goblins put my model screenshot into an ai
Thanks for the recommendations, valve! I really like gacha dogshit you retards, and you can tell because I've played a lot of games in the "free to play" genre (TF2)! Great work valve, your new calendar is going to work wonders! Don't actually fix what's wrong, add a new bandaid!
>>545010643most steam reviews are completely useless, the negative ones are excessively spoiled nitpicking and whining, and the positive ones are unintelligible memeswhat matters most is probably retention, which can be measured with player achievement completion ratesif a game is good, people will complete it
multi-billion dollar company btw
they're complaining about the revenue algorithmnobody enjoys this system
>>545011002Without context there is nothing wrong with this picture.
>>545011021gabe and the company he buys yachts from doesmore friendslop = more sales
H O B B Y
>>545011065>the company he buys yachts from>he doesn't know
turns out the game I was remaking is shit, I just played the orginal, in my memory it was cool but it's shitplus "bugs" I was getting while trying to remake it are in the orignal game
>>545011212>decides to make x>first thing he does isn't looking at xWhy are some people like this?
>>545011202It'd be fine if steam's algorithm actually worked. Does valve even use their own store? There's like 300 links on the front page. Here's to another that won't be used.
>>545011090based
performing a satisfying action to acquire a resource that is valuable within a meaningful context
>>54501120215k-20k gamesBut that's irrelevant when 99% are absolutely slop and 0.8% are mediocre and that leaves actually a lot of room for your game. At least, you are making a game, right? A good game, right?
>>545009989THEYHATEUS
>>545011090I like how redditors forget all those teenagers with CSGO gambling addiction
>>545011038probably should've included another review in there but there are reviews as recent as october 30th this year on the game i screenshotted. it's a common problem that the "most recent" tab doesn't actually sort reviews by date. why? fucking god only knows.
>>545011212Your remake can be an improved version of the original
>devs were moaning about indiepocalypse all the way back in 2016
>>545011527if the core game is boring, there is no improving it
>>545011542plywood age -> cardboard age -> sawdust age
i think steam just needs to improve the search feature to make it easier to find games based on:- release date range- review count range- review score/positive % range- price range- genre/tagsthat's itmake it easier to view a list of games based on these metrics and you'll the process of discovering games on steam will improve tenfold
>>545011542Steam direct was the start of the end when valve realized they can't moderate all the games released so they'll just come up with microsystems to do it for them, to zero avail.Every time they add something it gets exploited until valve kills it off. They just did it with steam events and next fest. This will be next.
>>545011392https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2025/10/23/the-counter-strike-2-skins-market-crash-explained/
why is everything reliant upon fuckass blackbox algorithms these days
>>545011542What's your point? Are you acting as if things aren't worse off in 2025 like they were in 2016?
>>545011814Because targeted advertising turned out quite profitable.
>>545012071>targeted advertising turned out quite profitableso profitable that valve is now desperately trying to revitalise their store so people would start buying more games
>>545004094Devil Daggers is another FPSRain World is another PlatformerCruelty squad is another FPSHylics is another RPGthe irony of your post
>>545012305By implementing a different type of targeted advertising
hmmm
Spent like 14 hours on these stupid bottom tabs, please tell me they look better
https://youtu.be/6xyJcQ10-PE
>>545012332It's a bot, anon.
>>545012546where you masturbating for 13 of those hours?
>>545012546I don't know what they looked like before but they look good enough and they won't make or break your game.
>>545012670living room
>>545012332They have unique things that make them stand out among other games in their genre retard. Most indie games that release have nothing new whatsoever
>>545012739Based.
thread word countmoney: 26dollar: 6rich: 3income: 2sell: 5buy: 12purchase: 2$: 6job: 12success: 7hire: 6market: 20once you understand this threads obsession with money, you understand why it's so bad. there's a lot of desperate broke people in here who cannot stop thinking about money. their whole mindset revolves around making that one perfect selling game. they have no identity, they have no interests, no goals, no preferences, all they want is making that one best-selling game.they are like musicians who are willing to do any genre, any lyrics, any style, any accent, in any language, about any mood. they are basically 100% completed sell-outs.the irony is: it doesn't work like that :D
>>545012826cope
>>545012826most of your favorite games were made by salaried employees who wouldn't have worked without getting paid.
>>545012707Before
>>545009989STEAMSWINES
honestly as much as I want to shit on the steamies in the comments, theyre using the wishlist as a wishlist, every store uses wishlists to notify when things are on steam, valve just think it means "preorder"theyre closer to realizing whats wrong than valve is at least
>>545012971Vibe coded?
>>545013078No, why?
>>545012971that looked so bad before
>>545013048on sale*
>>545012971yeah new ones are better for differentiation. stop fiddling with them.
>>545010387them cylinders are making me gushythat boy knows what he's doing posing like that uhhhh
>>545008663yeah, about that...
yesdev fuel recipe:chicken, broth, cabbage, carrots, leek, celeriac, parsley
>>545012957This is something that the average /v/tard and /agdg/tard don't want to think about.
>>545006191I don't think you'll get a girlfriend, or lose your virginity, but as long as nothing kills you, you are worthy to exist.
>your game is a mega hitwhat are the retards in the /vg/ thread of your game talking about?
>>545013650trannies and anime
>>545009239Yeah that makes a lot of sense.I tried the demo and can't see how the rest of the game could provide me with something substantially more interesting.When I hear Bioshock, I imagine big daddies, little sisters, adam, cool ass underwater city, the hand superpowers, great story, superb atmosphere and lore, etc.With twisted towers, there's not really any great concepts like that, and the stuff that it does have is... welp... extremely mild and forgettable. The gameplay isn't really catchy in any way to make you keep coming back to it, the atmosphere and set pieces are fine but nothing to write home about, the lore and story seems real basic.I wonder how many reviews will it get, how will it do.
>>545013650probably digging up pictures of me posting my cock with my face in it on /soc/ that's archived years ago, you can lookup faces on pimeyes, it finds it
>>545013650The lore of the world locations and fighting over their favorite characters.
what's the formula to make a game people love playing?people love playing their favorite genre.therefore it has to be a game the settles on a genre.people love playing the best in the genre, if it's replayable.is your game the best in the genre?people love playing new games, if their genre is not replayable.is your genre not replayable?people love playing a game where the dev knows how the genre works.do you know how your genre works?
>>545013719my question is, why is does the protag's wife call him "Tiny" in the letter at the start of the demo?
>>545012957>>545013628I simply don't give a shit. You all money hungry whores are complete fucking irrelevant. Either you produce something of interest and value to other humans or shut the fuck up and wageslave, you braindead piece of shit.You and your entire worthless famliy could die today and nothing will change tomorrow. Things will only change for the better because people WORK. The world doesn't give a shit. Shut up, idiots.
>>545014064this
>>545014064>>545014138Samefagging niggerfag
>>545013474You didn't say what to actually do with them, do I just bite out of the leek or what?
>>545013224>just make a porn game so your customers don't have to age verifyConfirming my biases that coomdevs are pedos again.Also I'm in the UK, I already live under the guiding hand of a managerial state that seeks to liberate its citizens from oppression buy locking them into a technocratic panopticon of mass surveillanceMullvad is a pretty good vpn btw, they don't even require an email address.
>>545014218
>>545014254>that seeks to liberate its citizens from oppressionthis is not true
>>545014218ah shit you got me
>>545014353
>>545014254the reply chain seems to suggest they're a porn game player though, not a dev
>>544981938Since I started my game in 2021 and resumed it in 2024, there is a lot of missing code, rewritten code, and a lot of dead code.
>>545014525ngmi
>>545014254I'm nta and I just want to say that "write boob, get billion tits" soon will be a relict of the past. Boob market will explode again, better buy stocks while low.
>>545013650they would be extremely angry at how retarded it is
>>545014064uh oh fygoon meltie incomingwoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>545014797
build build build
>>545014353You don't understand how these people think. Early liberals viewed the state as a source of oppression, these late stage liberals view the state as a mediating force that ameliorates the individuals oppressing each other. That's why they make hate speech laws, and send the police to arrest you for making a tranny joke or questioning mass immigration on twitter. They genuinely do not view what they do as oppression, even if the UK ends up arresting more people for speech-related crimes every year than China does, with a much smaller population. It's fine, the liberal paradigm is ending, they will be out of power within the decade and we will finally be able to deport all the browns.>>545014651This is like saying buy CS2 knives now before Valve torpedo the market. If you know in the future that booba are going to be regulated off the internet, then why would you make games about booba? Especially while the market is currently flooded with booba? There's no win to be had there, make a game without booba.
>>545015114>you got raped
>>545015060I mean, scavenge the internet and save as much as you can, when the blackout comes you'll be like slaves on a plantation. Unless, of course, you'll give up your anonymity to the government that will see what fetishes work for you the most.
>>545015295I have a wife so I already have boobs at home.
still waiting for a rapelay remake
weapons are fun
>>545015396They'll sag eventually, better have a reasonable backup
>>545015060>It's fine, the liberal paradigm is ending, they will be out of power within the decade and we will finally be able to deport all the browns.God I hope, because if not then agenda 2030 will rape us more than a black plague
https://x.com/ChamyaouLikeCat/status/1984720088314925288this is the type of shit indies shadow drop on steam and then complain about flopping
>>545015502Why? Rapelay sucked.
>>545015738this is the kind of dogshit valve promotes heavily because it's in the "indie" tag or something and gets a bunch of post ironic reviews
OH boy I can't wait for more absolute idiots to be able to produce incompetent video games using tools they don't understand to implement patternts they haven't internalized>>545015060>cs lewisLol dude is such a headass. To be fair I was raised on his work, it's at least better than Harry Potter
>>544994378>retarded unwanted aspergers passion project hyperniche fantasy art slopIsn't this a relatively succesful genre? A lot of subpar quality games that have unique elements seem to do well
>>545015060>baron>takes 10% of peasants income to hire soldiers to kill eveildoers and invaders>statesmen: invites mudflood niggers to compete with you while you pay 60% tax and 50% inheritance tax for life with zero benefits hmmmm
>>545015753remaster
>>544983429Learning ability (IQ) ⊆ talent.
"Building a Fulfilling Creative Career as a Solo Indie Developer | Matt Hackett">look at this steam page>0 games releasedman i'll never understand the confidence those people have. i tried making several games and my only advice is: you ngmi, dev for fun if you want but don't expect to get anywhere.
learn storytelling
>>545016432There once was a girl named Regina...
>>545016432Ok but how
>>545016601figure it out>>545016561fuck you
>>545016601Read books that you can finish
https://x.com/timedmonkey/status/1984759576840098137
>>545016561... I asked to see her bajeena
>>545016432>>545016601>>545016770
Damn...hope the homeless toon souls guy doesn't kill himself after this
>>545016601>>545016770Short story collections are great for beginners. Just find something vaguely intriguing and short and brute force it if you have to
>>545016890Who would take care of his mother? Are you ready to step up?
>>545016770>>545016904Ok I'll try that.
>>545016817>>545016890Lmao
>>545016884>t. functionally illiterate ai-tard
>>545017170>>545016884
>>545017319>>545017170
recursion
>>545016890his games mog agdg games to the shadow realm and yet he didn't hit 100 reviews yet
i wish i could upload my brain and have 50 me-ai's browsing the web and youtube all day and then giving me a feed of content to watch that they found interesting. it's becoming a full-time job to scavenge the internet for content.
>>545016601Use your imagination
>>545017662>scavenge the internet for content.Please stop doing that. Go outside
>>545017413>>545016884
>>545016890Post itThe train
>>545017662i used to have a similar desire in hopes of gaining a stronger understanding of what sort of game i could design that would be most compatible with an aggressive advertisement campaign but i ultimately came to the conclusion that a game rooted in my personal passion and optimized for a general audience would be much more effectiveonly corporations can work with data on that scale, individual devs and small teams need to rely on passion, skill, and common sense
>>545017504
there are voices in my head that prevent me from deving. they ridicule me, they tell me i'm ngmi, they are very rational and can explain in detail why i'm ngmi, i even agree with those voices, they also suggest that if i keep deving i'll become homeless, so i even have fear of deving.the fucked up part is: they want me to do something else, yet all those voices do is make me fucking depressed so i end up spending my days like a vegetable.reminds me of: "if you sacrifice freedom for security, you lose both"i mean, if those voices would lead me to something good, i'd appreciate the voices. but if they just lead me to rotting away, then what's the point? i could also rot away while deving.actually the same voices tell me to not get a wagie job cause waging will also make me unhappy. basically they tell me to do nothing at all unless i found something that promises me a paradise.
>>545018427ignore themor partake in a sacramental life adhering to the conventions of the Catholic churchunironically
>>545018427take your meds, schizoid.
>>545018427I have voices in my head too but I put them in a headlock and call them silly billies then we all go to the bar to get drinks
>>545018946Silence tormentor
>>545017697I am
>>545019359To you anon o_O
Anybody remember what happened to Mongoldev? He was doing solid progress, wrote he's going to his doctor and then radio silence. Did. did they get him? Is he institutionalized right now? If so then who deleted his twitter account?
>>545019616psych eval forced him into therapy
IOH HOE LEEE SHIT NO WAAAAY
>>545019473dude stop talking to yourself you're scaring away the hoes
>>545019794>agdg >hoes"transexuals" don't count
>>545019842Of course there are no hoes anon scared them all away
Nobody played my game on steme...
>>545019928The freakiest hoes don't get scared
>>545019992drop the price to 1 dollar
>>545019992heroes for hire?
>>545019992Hyper Coven?
>>545018427do you hear actual voices like schizophrenia or are they just intrusive thoughts? i had "voices" in my head since childhood constantly telling me I'm worthless and fat and stupid and everything other bad thing possible but I think it's not schizophrenia and more like OCD. I felt like I had to constantly refute them and repeat actions or phrases in my head until I felt like I had somehow warded them off or else it would become true. miserable but I managed to make it stop as i got older
>>545018361
where are da loligaems?
for the first time in my life i don't have a single friend. like i have 0 social connections to anybody. it feels like it was always meant to be. like, i was just constantly trying to make friendships and relationships work. now it's the first time i'm fully myself and talk my mind. and somehow it's the first time i don't have a single friend.maybe that's what was holding me back. constantly trying to fit in and therefore being in conflict with who i truly am. therefore being in conflict with e.g. stuff like gamedev.my whole youth was teachers telling me to not get into webdev cause it's not a real job (around 2005), also my parents telling me that webdev isn't a real job. my whole life i was constantly criticized for my interests.it's a fucking miserable existence when everybody close to you just constantly tries to change you and criticizes you for having the wrong goals. and then those same people constantly complain about their lifes.maybe i need to be more careful who to bond with. and i shouldn't put my social needs over my self-love.
HOLY FUCK SHUT THE FUCK UPNO ONE CARES LOSERS
Are there no more RPG Maker dev threads?
>>545020932cool blogpost retard
>>545020932Gamedev?
>>545020986i care
>>545020932welcome to my life, rookie.
>>545020908In prison getting raped by tyrone
>>545018427>actually the same voices tell me to not get a wagie job cause waging will also make me unhappy. basically they tell me to do nothing at allthis is too relatable, how do we fix it, sisters?
>>545021058thats great, why dont you take all these failures under your wing and guide them.somewhere else.
>>545020175No>>545020327No
>>545021128it isnt up to me to fic this retarded system rich subhumans have forced everyone into
>>545020932Asked+care
>>545019992Upload videos on youtube or tiktok with titles like>8 years old who made a AAA game at homeAdd some basedface in the thumbnail too
>>545017504>let's make a game like cuphead, but worseWhy wouldn't I rather just play cuphead instead if I feel like playing something like that?
why does godot have a AAA tier terrain plugin with actually good texture blending and good tools, yet unity and unreal doesn't?
as I think about my life situation I think is kind of unfair I get no compensation for gamedevResearchers and scientists do get paid for their research, why gamedevs are shunned by society? we do hard technical work
>>545020986agdg is my therapy group
>>545021425cause research has a good reputation. you can be nasa and waste trillions of dollars and people are like "but space important" and it werks.when it comes to art, people hate artists of any kind.
I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL YOU STUPID BITCH I'M GONNA FUCKING RAPE YOU STUPID BITCH YOU WILL FUCKING DIE STUPID BITCH DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND STUPID BITCH???
>>545016890Is this meant to be ironic?I already explained in the last thread how good games don't fail. But steams definition of good is "will this sell a lot." They're highly correlated.Steam wants money. AAA don't come out fast enough densely, AA aren't good enough. If you're below 10k wishlists give up.
>>545021524sad fucking realitysad fucking world
>>545021606>Is this meant to be ironic?>I already explained in the last thread how good games don't fail. But steams definition of good is "will this sell a lot." They're highly correlated.>Steam wants money. AAA don't come out fast enough densely, AA aren't good enough. >If you're below 10k wishlists give up.
>>545021606We're so close to you almost understanding! Just a couple more youtube videos to break you out of gabe's rapehole!
>>545021524>I made you happy didnt I ?>I fucking hate you
>>545021806Fatfuck gabencunt is an indian deity, respect his culture, insolent chud!!!
>>545021334use warcraft world editor
In the future gamedev will be seen as a noble and honorable profession
>>545020932>>545018427>>545018136>>>/soc/>>>/lgbt/>>>/trash/
>>545021323ok but (You)r game if it even exists is most likely also something like X but worse.
gamedev is a career opportunity. you can have a mindset of being thankful for having that opportunity. people 100 years ago didn't have that opportunity.but as all opportunities, nothing is promised, it's just a chance given to you.
>>545022219there will be no professions like gamedev in the future. we're in the last days of it.
>>545022316Yes but it's not straight up just the other thing BUT worse. If that's almost exactly what the game is, why wouldn't people just play the original? I don't get that...
business
>>545022436it should be standardized somehow, like you are a gamedev, here's some grarnts for your gamedev endevour
>>545022457gamedev is still a fast growing market. new generations growing up with technology and third world also slowly owning technology.10 years ago that poor kid in africa wasn't playing mobile games on their phone, nowadays they do.
>>545022742AI will take over.
>>544992968>Those comments
>>545022790gamedev will change, sure, but it still will be gamedev
>>545022790Read Schopenhauer
my goal is not to make money
>>545023349Then you have succeeded. Good job! Now you are free
>>545023349Congratulations on achieving your goal!
my goal is to make a game i personally want to play
>>545018427You are here. You wish you'd just make game... the genie is you.
>search tag on the new steam meme addition thatll be dropped instantly when released>half the games are early access>search early access>5 games, 2 arent even early access"if you confuse your userbase and partners, you win" - art of war, gabe newell
Today I am making marketing slop for my steam demo release on the 7th. I'm hoping to have at least 3 reddit post pre-planned, and post them one day after the other. I've always hated this format because it's suck a self-suck kind of meme, but it does numbers. It also works great my game is not amazing looking, but giving it the context of how it started, it gets a boost.Also, what the fuck is a "press kit" and how do you make one? Is it just art and graphics from your game for press people to use?
>>545023810took too long to transition. my attention span is 4 seconds.
I want to make a really autistic fashion system primarily for the purpose of putting cats and goblins in silly armorany important tips to autism max?
>>545023810>Is it just art and graphics from your game for press people to use?yes. can have text for features etc too
>>545021334can you explain how to use godot terrain correctly because it's kind of filtering me, specifically the texture blending, I keep getting really hideous transitions where the square grid is way too obvious
>>545023810show both videos at the same time
>>545024054how about... weight, heat, flexibility. chance of survival against different weapon types?I would play this, cool pic
>>545021007There are, keep looking.
>Blow woke up into more arc raidersThey got him lol.
>>545024196https://godotengine.org/asset-library/asset/3892https://terrain3d.readthedocs.io/en/stable/index.html"Reference Material Mike J. Savage: Geometry clipmaps: simple terrain rendering with level of detail. Earlier versions of Terrain3D used Mike’s implementation. Blog and repository code released under the MIT license, clarified per email communication with Mike. NVidia GPU Gems 2: Terrain Rendering Using GPU-Based Geometry Clipmaps GDC 2014: The Witcher 3 Clipmap Terrain and Texturing - Slides"
>>545024229>>545024043hmmm, probably is better. Appreciate it anons.
>>545020986This, get a fucking psychologist.
Well im here to get some feedback, just for visuals , the post process and lighting is not fixed, the problem is would you accept a toon with a pbr style medivial isekai game. since i have come to conclude that medivial stylished assets are hard to come by and i need tons of it for my game
>>545021806>I DESERVE TO BE RICH WITH MY SHITTY AI SLOP CUPHEAD CLONE!!!Numerous devs didn't heed my advice and numerous devs flopped.I literally give this advice for free cause I like you retards. I've been studying flops for a while now. I suffer for you people, do you think it's fun watching a 40 minute video from a youtube shitdev about his game just so I can get the exact metrics?And devs here aren't very happy after they flop, look at how cosmic call or marmoreal or dingodev have been acting.Let's look at Necrovale and everything they did right: lots of engagement and visibility pre-releasewell priced, 10-20 dollar range, 20% release discount, first 2 hours of content are fun (next two hours are meh), professional capsule and video and demo (clicks on game page), 500+ positive reviews makes sense. It hit below the cult classic range, but is still a minor success. Though as a game it genuinely lacked enough appeal to really be better. IMO a lower price and more sales would be better because then it would look more attractive in a bundle. It could have then hit probably 1k+ sales in impulse buys. It is more money made, but it's probably not as safe. Plus you can still stack discounts with bundles, but the review velocity is very small by now, you'll only be picking up from theoretical wishlist conversions, but the thing about a bundle you'd be increasing that space.>>545023349If your game is good you will make money. Btw the guys that made garten of banban are fucking millionaires now.
Nevermind he's settled back into having gabe's chode lodged up his shitter.
>>545023810It looks worse, also the top circle has soul and the bottom one is soulless
>>545022831yeah, the kid will say>make me a game I likeand the AI will know what kind of games the kid likes and will create it from one of the AAA quality templates.
>>545024969someone will have to create AAA templates, that will be gamedev
I feel sorry for those out there who can't do something significant. you are really missing out on a key part of life. videogames let people pretend to do something significant.
>>545025265around the age of 25-30 you should pivot from consooming to creating things that inspire other to create
>>545025342no, you are too old by then, gotta start young to get the skill so you can create while you still have youthful energy and are immune to burnout.
i need to always remind myself that all my 3D games should be outdoors and without any indoor stuff. i just hate making indoor lighting work.also there shouldn't be any sun movement and no day/night cycle.
Being convinced into thinking that you shouldn't want to make money is the most soi goycattle thing ever. Yeah, you should really leave getting rich to your betters: god's chosen people.
>>545025506this. School totally wastes people
>>545023810Finally leaving the aggydaggy hugbox for a brutal reality check
>>545025506you should already be creating from age like 13, but I mean locking in to that being your primary use of time and vril, when you make that shift you already need to have a strong creative foundation from your youth.
staff, brows, lashes and body tweaks done. Rigging next
>>545025698You guys are idiots then. Mobile gacha with skinner boxes. >why not do thatBecause that sucks too
>>545026093>implying you could make a successful mobile skinnerbox gacha
inflated market this, gaben killed us that, indie apocalypse? my ass.Stop fucking crying, the world adapts, it changes. If you dont adjust and overcome, you WILL drown.god-emperor gabe could roll out an update that shoots me in the face the second i publish and id STILL make my game.Just make a good fucking game. get back to work, NOW.
>>545025698I mean yea, but if you want to get rich solo game dev in 2025 is not the way, you spend months or years of intensive effort making something that will probably pull in 5 figures if you're lucky, or very likely only 4 figures. You're much better off spending that time doing almost anything else if your goal is money.
>>545026359>just get noticed by an influencer, bro>it worked for me, bro
>>545026359cringe, my respect for you went down by about 2-3% for making this post.
I'm already beda-tired and the hard week has yet to beda-begin.
>>545026359post ass
>>545026359based, you make a game because the goblin that lives in your brain commands it, if you don't have the spark of creation you're ngmi. Monetization recognition and success are cool, but you create to honor god first.
>>545026686You'd beda get some coffee
>>545026093>low-IQ and short sightedMobile games can only make money while you continue to update it and pay for advertisement.If you make a timeless PC/Console game, the algorithms will continue to sell it for you for decades to come.>>545026483>if you want to get rich solo game dev in 2025 is not the wayIt's not the way if you're a low-skill low-IQ retard. Go back to the warehouse where you belong. Gamedev is a meritocracy. For those of us with world class skills and IQ, gamedev is one of best ways to get rich in 2025.
Is this too many primitives?
>>545026093gacha shit is exclusively marketing and hoping for some dumb retard with money and no brains to spend too much on your shit
>>545026574you think these things happen on accident?I designed the game with attracting influencers in mindCause why shouldnt I? You want me to publish it in a magazine? Send letters to people? hope people see it there?you gotta adapt - there is no other way
>>545027004>For those of us with world class skills and IQ, gamedev is one of best ways to get rich in 2025.show your current Steam wishlists or sales graph.
>>545027004t.retard nigga who thinks his 138 iq makes him a crazy genius lol
>>545026359make a good fucking-game
>>545019992What's your game anon?
don't get cocky, kid.
>>545008906>>545009000>>545009360I also look like all this as I type this post
>>545027409>you think these things happen on accident?Yes. You could've just as easily flopped had that cattle herder not been in the mood for your game.Unless you bribed him directly but I doubt you did that judging by the language you choose.
>>545027476That's the same IQ bracket as Cris. Are you not smarter than Cris?
>>545027661get cock, kid
>>545027875when you're high iq you realize that even high iq people are retarded. There is no cut off where a human being stops being retarded. The human mind is retarded.
>>545027476Considering that the median IQ in most Western countries is 89-90 (not even talking about the third world here), yes, that does make him a crazy genius.
>>545019616He'll be fine. Probably. He said they were simply doing a time limit on his computer usage. Who knows why.
>>545027982got him
>>545026359Amen.
>>545027409you said to make a good game and then you said you designed the game with attracting influencers in mind. if good == appealing to the kind of people who watch Pewdiepie and the like, then I guess that makes sense.
>>545028286slave-minded cattle
Holy...
>>545012957Correct. Disregard this romanticising faggot.
>>545028167It really doesn't, when you filter game dev down to people who are high iq enough to actually download a game engine and make anything like a serious attempt, you're probably looking at a minimum of 115+, and 140 really isn't setting you apart from the pack at that point. Most solo devs even those making flops are probably top 1% iq.
>>545028560now knock 70 points off for believing the results of an online iq test
>>545014064broke nodev you have no say in any of this kekk
never have i felt my retardation more on display than when making and playtesting my game. t. 140 IQ
>>545028740not an online test. just that stupid iq estimator you paste text into.
>>545028804It's brokies fixated on making money, if you're a normalfag you have plenty of cash from your normal job and you make a game because there is literally nothing more fun to spend your free time on. If you're a neet or a jeet desperately hoping for salvation by making your shitty (x) clone you're in for a life of pain.
what's the point of making a video game if you don't even play video games anymore?
>>545028865that's because it's entirely your own fault, and that's why maybe only three posters in this entire thread have even attempted to start a game, the rest are here to shitpost and pretend for (You)sAlso to those of you who tried and failed, it's because your idea / game was shit, not steam, not the users (You) are included)
High IQ is a disadvantage as it makes a stronger beast for your soul to wrestle with
Okay, light system for the nights are almost fully functional. I just have to fiddle a little more with the light animation, and blending modes and it will be neat.Oh and make a dozen different light-source objects to actually use it.>>545027409It already happened? Hah, I knew you'd make it!
>>545029257>High IQ is a disadvantageYou don't have high IQ, you have low IQ, that's why you're a failure tranny pedo faggot
Thoughts on intentionally becoming a yanderedev esque lolcow as a marketing strategy?
>>545029001ok knock 90 points off then.
>>545029463https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0KgYo96BpM
how to become the best selling slut on the market? should i allow them to piss and shit on me so i get more customers? did anybody do some market study if rape is a good genre? i'd definitely let them rape me if that means twice the income. we all know, the most important part about anything is to make the most money you can, not how you feel doing it.
Wake up, aggies, wake up. We about get this paper.
>>545028123Smart people can end up with retarded opinions and incorrect priors, but generally speaking, one of the most critical talents that you need as a solo indie game developer is the ability to learn new things very quickly, since there is a shit ton of skills that you'll need to learn, and there's not enough time in your lifespan if you learn too slowly. How quickly you can learn a topic is most directly measured with IQ.>>545028687You'd be surprised. The barrier to entry is quite low. There also appears to be a bimodal distribution of developers who have gotten to the point of downloading an engine and trying. There are the <115IQ midwit "kenyan helicopter flopdev NGMIggers" who don't have the level of introspection necessarily to figure out they're producing worthless garbage, and thus can remain delusional enough to persist in their fruitless endeavor. In the 115-145 range or so, you'll be smart enough to figure out what a truly monumental task creating an good game that people actually want to play is. This is the range where many neverdevs rot away in. It's not really until the 145+ range where you're really able to filter out all the noise and follow a realistic path to success.
>>545029696
Is your game going to be fun?
IQ doesn't magically give you better art or music or coding skills, it simply means your brain is faster than lower IQ brains.
>>545029257>bocchi's soul manifested brown hands
>>545029921
>>545029284I like the time wheel in the corner, That's a nice and creative way to convey the time. The flame and light flickering is also a very nice touch, that makes the scene feel much more alive. The light looks good when it's over objects too, like the windows and the tires.The light is a really solid circle though. Is that deliberate? It feels like a very retro pixel thing, but the other artwork seems higher quality than that. Maybe you could soften the edges a lot so it's more like it fades away rather than just sharply ending?Otherwise congrats on being one of the few anons making progress! Wish the thread had more people like you!
>can't use low IQ as an excuse because we had to take mandatory certified IQ tests in class
>>545029831You should kill yourself as your IQ is most certainly below 70.
>>545029921at 3yo I was drawing 3d cubes. high visual spacial iq. it's talent, or magic if you will.
>>545029921iq is strongly correlated with superior performance in cognitively demanding fields like art, music, and coding, as it enables deeper pattern recognition, innovation, and problem-solving beyond mere speed.
>a bunch of directionless adults who went through childhood being told that they were 'smart' and 'gifted' are now comparing IQ in the threadYou coasted through school and never learned how to work hard, then one day the world started expecting you to work hard and you fell off and never recovered. Now you're a loser and you cope about your 'genius' IQ, while having a retard level work ethic. You waste all your free time, with anime and vidya, you can't finish anything, you have no game and you will never ever be a woman.
more progress now, added time control and managed to make some subscene handler to tie it all together. also half done with the gameplay loop, though i'll probably work on an actual building select next. that and making it not look like shit.
>>545030251this is not a thing anywhere in the world except maybe in North Korea
>>545029831The person who made this chart is likely in "normie purgatory" when it comes to IQ, that is, they're of average IQ.
>>545030354He said all this while posting on 4turd
>>545030251nigger you are REACHING right now kek, go back to the reddit
i miss the days when people had crooked teeth.braces ruined society
>i'm low IQ>cope is "i can do anything high IQ people can as long as i spend more time grinding">i'm high IQ>cope is "uughh it's such a curse being such a smart brahmin that i can't get any work done"the average iq of Indians is just 75
>>545030375looks like a game for high IQ individuals such as myself to enjoy
STOP.You have one prompt to input into an AI that is guaranteed to finish
>>545030375Infinifactory 2D?
>>545026359Based, thoI WILL drown even if I make my game
>>545029371Ya mad nerd neverdev? Maybe with enough sequential braindamages you can reach my level>>545030072Ew
>>545025982fully rigged now. Hair will be hair physics via verts.
>>545029137no replies?
>>545030582come to japan
>>545030926>Ya mad nerd neverdev? Maybe with enough sequential braindamages you can reach my level>posts anime
>>545030457I never claimed to have a high IQ
Next year...
>>545030398>>545030468Huh? It was on the day after penis inspection day.
>>545030119Thanks, the earliest playtesters got confused by the darkening screen, thinking often that it was a bug. Though I have to admit, I stole the idea of the time wheel from Aculto, another project from here.For now it is a solid circle yeah, I am trying to figure out the right blend mode to work with the transparency to get softer edges as you said, and I plan each light source object to have their own light sprite to get different shapes.I don't know much about retro, the higher-quality sprites you see are from an itch.io asset pack made by LimeZu. I've been using them to prototype since the early days, since it has quite a lot of things, and there are not that many pixel art modern interior/exterior assets to go around. I did contact an artist though and have some custom assets coming so it should all be coming together.Thank you for your interest anon.
>>545030959can you hook me up with a breeding visa? i'm white 5'11 blue eyes
>>545031123
>>545031006deep thoughts are demons anyway. when you know, you know, immediately, no internal discourse necessarysilence is peace
>>545030981ah you are not the brightest one already
iq is about realizing how seemingly unrelated things actually affect your ability to achieve your goals.a documentary about ships might help you more in making progress on a cool game than a tutorial on blender or programming.
>>545029137I barely play videogames nowadays. but my brain is bursting with game ideas. I gotta release the pressure by making games.
>>545031380just like House MD...
>>545029831This image was pretty clearly made by someone in the 130-145 range aged like 17-23 going through the normal growth cycle for gifted kids where they think their youthful anxiety is because they're just too big brained. In actuality there's is pretty much just a solidly linear relationship between iq and happiness. Low iq people are actually really really unhappy because unless you're a true barely human level retard, you can tell what you're missing and it fucking sucks. I've met depressed downies that were fully aware of how bad they had it. Being 80-85 is basically hell, you can have a low paying job, but will frequently lose it, do dumb shit that self destructs your life, and struggle with all the basic shit modern life requires like collecting vital records for a DMV visit without any of the state support of being a true tard. Iq is basically just a 1:1 linear correlate with happiness.
>>545030617if you're low iq you actually can't catch up to high iq people with more grinding, you will literally just fail to make creative insights
>>545024794No I would not accept that. You can have a lore reason for it, but it just looks like a bad asset flip.
>>545031789uh oh. retardmaxxingsissies, our response?
can we stop talking about IQ and start talking about money again?
How do you move a characterbody along the normal of a wall
>>545030375Neat! Great to see more progress posting in the thread.The graphics are simple but it's good that you're keeping each icon distinct. Is there any way to tell what something is after you've placed it though?Also, good thinking with the pop up and fade away text. That's usually much better flowing for gameplay then making the player input to progress the text. It seems like there's a contract target though? I only saw that in the popup, if there's a goal for the player to meet having it displayed or a way to access it seems like a good idea.The stock market simulation is cool. That makes selling gameplay much more engaging then everything having a fixed price. Good work there!
>>545031789explain why all 125+ iq ppl are all morose and miserable then
>>545031380Isnt it funny how all the cool ideas require complex physics that filters aggydaggers and gentoomen. A game about ships would be a physicsfest.
>>545032070
>4 days 22 hoursI feel like I'm not going to make it but if also like if I don't get feedback I'm going to be wandering blind for another 2 months.
>>545032136Fuck off, Joshua.
Why are youtubist soys can use AI voice in their videos and even the rabid anti-AI soys don't get mad, but If i use it in my game, I get harassed and doxxed instead?
>>545031334Agreed, based.Being a retard is the only way to do gamedev. All you high iq having faggots, why are you even here? Surely there's enough data to convince you rational intellectuals that the chances of success in gamedev are tiny, and the effort required to make a game is enormous. Why aren't you using your giant brains to go pursue forms of artistic expression that aren't flooded with brownoids trying to make a quick buck? Or finding ways to make money that aren't as unreliable and cringe as gamedev?I'm smart enough to know the risks and drawbacks, and dumb enough to ignore them. I choose to not know any better, I WILL make a game and I WILL make it.
>>545032262I could try to give you feedback anytime anon, I try to watch the thread for progress posts. Deadlines are a good thing for forcing progress to be made but don't feel bad about missing on, there's always more demos and things going on.
>>545032140they really aren't, they're just some of the only people introspective enough to write anything coherent about their feelings and put it on the internet. Normal iq people crash outs occur in the form of arguments with their girlfriend you can hear through the walls of your apartment, not internet screeds.
>>545032015"Retardmaxing" is actually based, because it's just a funny way to say living on intuition instead of reason, not about literally being retarded. It doesn't work if you're low iq.
>>545032396you missed the part where the high IQ anons don't care about money. They already got it from investing in bitcoin 10 years ago.
>watch a streamer called "Hasan Application Binary Interface">does not talk about programming AT ALL>just keeps doing the same bit where he says "Imagine my shock!" then winks at the camera and reaches for some gatorade off-camera with his hand, while the dog barkswow very cool that you trained your dog to do that or whatever, but when are you gonna write some fucking code?
>>545030582>>545030959japs intentionally make their teeth crooked, it's doesn't count if it's intentional. they wish they were bongs desu.
>>545032738
>>545032932nobody reading ts unc :wilted_flower: :sob: :broken_heart:
>>545032672Or CS2 skins... speaking of which I haven't checked on those for a while, I hope they're still doing well.
>>545033039you act like you make fun of this type of slang speech, when in reality you help proliferate it.
>>545032070>IQ>AI>trans>peripeteia>/v/3>conspiracy theoriesthose are some obsessions of the goreposter, excluding of course, making games
>>545031309At least someone got it. I wonder whether the actual newfaggots just learned through social osmosis that saying go back to plebbit is le pretending to be oldfag
I feel like the "goreposter" isn't a real singular entity and just a blanket term for "shitposter I don't like"
>>545033231no, i enjoy it on the base 1 sincerity level with no irony, and i'm not making fun of it at all. it's funny to mets pmo by the way
>>545033480hmm pretty sure it's boku
>>545033669you will never have time to post shit like that if you're yesdevving or if you have a job retard
>>545030801i hope so. a worry i have right now is that i don't get the complexity balance right.>>545030819yep, 2d roguelite dumbed down infinifactory.>>545032136thanks. yeah there's a target output rate. i've been thinking on ways to get it there without being a bother and that's the least-code solution i had in mind. i'll probably change it to a mouseover when i work on the new building placement menu.
>>545033480many such cases in every general thread on this site, test it for yourself, go to any thread and post something mean and inflammatory towards a regular poster, you'll get accused of being the local bogeyman. I've been called Chaosfag, Carnac, Perrynigger, and a 100 other names and I only actually know who like 5 of them are.
any ideas on how to make a rollin cube game fun ?
>>545033943make it round
>>545033798bokube is progressing remarkably slowly albeit...
>>545033943cubes don't roll
>>545034001null physiognomy
>>545033943make it a dice game
>>545034001this is the issue with gamedev 2025grifters pushed out cool games from>people who actually liked making sovlful games>people who realized that you could "make it" and put actual sovlful effort into it before youtube thumbnails like these existed calling on normies to think it's a quick get rich scheme to participate
Oh man this is sick
>>545034037not everyone is a neet boku remodels houses
>>545034058that's right, they flop
>>545034294cuffbusted
>>5450342946 years later... the fun is still nowhere to be seen...
>>545034001to be fair, he did make a sincere platformer that flopped. But he got jaded and pumped out some slop instead
>>545033872>at least 103 mean and inflammatory postswhat made you so mean?
>>545033454same poster and i wasn't pretending anything
>>545034306so he says. I saw some drywall and a wooden railing. not sure he has a job or is just helping his uncle out from time to time.
>545034058>545033454>545030926>545030251>>545029257>545026686>545025982>545021221>545013037>>545009684>545009000>544986036>544984174nigger mods not enforcing avatarfagging rules
>>545034294why do steam retards think this is feedback"fun" isnt just a fucking physical object, explain what you mean big boy, you can use your words right?
>>545034541Ah okay. Funnily enough I found out about reddit through 4chan kek.
>>545034798not fun is valid feedback desu
>>545034001I-IS THAT A CO-OP MULTIPLAYER GAME!? That's two genres I LOVE! (I have like 70 hours in l4d after all, like all of steam)... I NEED THIS NOW! (valve's algorithm works this way)
>>545034814i didn't ask you tranny faggot
game development?
>>545034952What you forgot to point out is that Steam treats "cyberpunk" and "multiplayer" as the same thing. Since that's surely the most logical way to approach this, right?
>>545033943Tamagotchi with a torture twist
>>545034294I suspect this is Fagoon
godotsis, do I have some sort of mental retardation? what causes this in the polygon?
New horde models are in, tho it's not finished completely cause gore maps, blood/grime maps, and hairs + accessories aren't in, but i kinda like what i see so far. next i will code up some more horde behavior shit, most of the animations i made is not in cause the code for behaviors aren't there yet.
>>545035868nerve gas
>>545035868https://youtu.be/TtLtaZ33Uho
>>545035862
>>545035982Holy shit finally. Add some flying lotcust.
>>545035291All the real devs are too busy crunching to get their demos ready for dd65
What's your workflow for texturing? Do I just guess where to draw the texture? I unwrapped the UVs onto my image and I'm trying to edit it in my paint program but I don't actually even know where the UV boundaries are.
>>545035862Nah he came here after 2020
>>545011392They literally deserve it
>>545035982nice gay vampire rave
>>545034798>doesn't understand the basic concept of fun means in a videogamengmi
>>545036374paint directly on the model in a real texture program. Painting in 2d is only really viable for stuff like ground textures or bark
>>545035982now that I think about it, some indie should recreate Blade's opening scenehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51flam4OrpE
[Sad News] I will have to start to look into further optimizations since occlusion culling wasn't enough for the final form of my game.
>>545036827I look like this
>>545036793Seriously? What about the layers and other features I have in the paint program. Also does anyone use blender itself for texture painting?
>>545020932it's your fault and you should kill yourselfhope this helps
>>545036374It depends a lot on what you're using.For uniquely textured models like props/characters, you usually export your UVs to photoshop and paint directly on them (old way) or use substance painter/mari/whatever to paint directly on the model (modern way).For environments you create tiling textures and trimsheets and you basically apply them to your polygroups and fuck around with the UVs until they look good. Often you'll blend multiple textures together (in your game engine) using a mask texture or vertex colors. Environments are usually too large to have unique textures dedicated to every square meter. (though you might be able to get away with it if your environments are tiny)
>>545036265yeah there will be monsters later on, still focusing on hordes tho. this shit is taking too much time and i feel like i'm procrastinating by redoing the same shit all over again.>>545036529kek, it's supposed to be one of those goons from john carpenter's ghost of mars but i probably went too far into that gay leather shit, i think once i added grime & blood maps it's gonna look alright tho.>>545036848hmm.. interesting, ever since i played vtmb, i've always wanted to make a vampire hunting game. but i guess that's for later.>>545036374Since my game is photo+paintover textures heavy, i decided to buy substance painter and been happy ever since. it's just really easy for me to project textures and paint over, since they have a layer system and masking etc. maybe you wanna look into that
My game is good, the algorithm just ignores meMy game is good, the algorithm just ignores meMy game is good, the algorithm just ignores me
>>545026359ayup, that's a trvke if I ever heard one
My posts are good, the nodevs just ignores meMy posts are good, the nodevs just ignores meMy posts are good, the nodevs just ignores me
>>545036827Anon, I...
>stop profiler>free 15% performance boostwe are so back.
>>545037235Yea they can do that and a lot more dog
>>545035868das the node origin homeslice
>>545037269>you usually export your UVsOh I see, this is what I was curious about. Thanks I looked it up and now I know how to do it.>>545037483>substance painterthanks but I'm still a beginner so I don't wanna get into that right now.
remember this nigga?
>>545034001o-oh!>>545020841
>>545038470Unity crushed it
Im gonna make an anime Sims game.
I keep adding systems complexity under the hood but it's fine as long as the UI doesn't get more complex.
>>545038369yeah but why does the mesh deform like this towards the origin
>>545032932thanks for this
>>545037223Cute! Will you be my girlfriend (male)?
>>545037483I picked up substance painter as soon as I realized I was having real fun with 3d, and it was 100% worth
I’m deving since 2010 with pauses and I never released anything
>>545033265I feel a little bad for setting off the schizo a couple threads ago even if it was funny at the time. Even if it's hilariously easy to convince him you're Shodanon and get goofy rants for ages (literally all you have to do is mention Peripeteia, and you can even make it obvious you're baiting and he'll still fall for it), it probably makes his mental illness worse.
>>545039508no it absolutely was not my man
>>545039202not sure my game is 3D cause I'm not retarded
>>545039202Looks like something with with root->hip. Godot's built-in Skeleton2D is broken unmaintained trash and should really be marked as deprecated.
>>545039508
>>545039924What are you waiting for?
>>545036827>anon spent a lot of time and effort on this>only got two (You)s
>>545039263m-maybe
>>545040658nta, similar position tho.Either I have too many ideas and can't decide on one, or not enough ideas, or I overscope and can't deliver on my ideas but making lower-scoped projects is uninteresting, or I get sidetracked on some tangent or technical problem while developing an overscoped game and then the project fizzles out because what I built is actually shit.It's like nodeving but you yesdev and just have nothing to show for it.
>>5450362032 > 3 > 4 > 1
>>545040209truke, newdevs think 2d is easier because they can wrap their head around whats necessary more intuitively, but when you're a knower you know 3d is the right choice in nearly all circumstances, it's just so much better at nearly everything.
>>545039508>>545040081furry devs have the advantage of being able to dismiss all criticism as fursecution, must be nice.
>>5450411073D is superior from a game design choice as well. There's a very good reason why everyone abandoned 2D games after the SNES.It's the same as colour in cinema.
>>545041054nobody asked
>>545040951das cool
>>545041281yea good and novel 2d designs certainly exist, but if you're not an exceptionally skilled 2d artist or have a very particular design in mind, 3d is almost always the right choice. Way faster and easier to make assets for, way easier to make look good, way more gameplay choices open up, ect.
>>545002410Unironically a big chunk of BiteMe viewers who actually show their games on streams have very low quality games. I'm surprised at this since I expected a wider audience of different skill levels. Marnix is way too nice, most of those games are ngmi <10 reviews. A few however stand out real hard tho. "Hobby" yeah bruh just dump $100 on Steam for a game that might get almost no interest at all, maybe even 0 reviews worth. Nah chief, I definitely need to make money off this. What's the point of doing it for nothing? This is way too high effort to just do for free. It's one thing to make a 1 month game, it's another to drop 2 years (2.5% of your life assuming 80 years of life) to make a flop almost no one plays.
>>545036827someone with ai remake this but with not shit graphics
>>545034472Based revengeance dev
>>545039924>>545041006I had this problem for many years. The solution for me was to do game jams. The hard deadlines forced me to learn how to properly scope and design reasonably sized games.
>>545041816Game dev is more fun than other ways I would spend my free time (jerking off, playing 20 year old multiplayer games, drooling on myself while watching youtube slop) so I do it. Those pay nothing and probably actively harm me, while gamedev may potentially pay something and certainly is more personally beneficial than the other uses of time available to me. Even if I end up with a 100% flop, I still am spending my time better.
>>545042249We're talking about well-adjusted people here, not subhuman neets.
>>545034001>remember seeing this game>look it up again>cloners already showed upMan I hate how devs there are now. Way too competitive when these types show up. Imagine sharing an easy GMI idea online before releasing it and suddenly you've got 10 cloners with half more talented than you, couldn't be me.
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>>545042249Gamedev is only fun as a beginner and learner. Any commercially viable game requires a mountain of highly unfun hard work to create. You simply haven't made it far enough yet.
THE WALL
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>>545043016Fatfuck gabencunt did this.
>>545043326
Consumers are based.
>>545009989Amd yet these customers willingly drop $1000 for an Apple product despite a usable Samsung phone being half the price. Curious how cheap they are. Ready to drop their entire weeks earnings on a phone they use for texting and social media only, but a game that can bring them 20 hours of fun is simply too expensive at $9.99? Lol. When I see a game I like I don't go "how many hours of gameplay is there" I literally just buy it. I'm surprised they even ask such a question when just looking at a game gives a clear idea on its length.
So in theory, checking conditionals based on values which are being altered by Time.deltaTime could always cause tunneling depending on how bad someone's CPU is right?
>>545011375It'd be funny seeing these people change their tune of silksong decided to flip on them and chsrge 59.99. Considering the quality they couldve gotten away with it
>>545042682most people don't even work out dude, having a productive hobby of ANY kind puts you high above average as far as free time use goes. Normie or neet, the average person burns up almost all their time on media consumption.
>>545043867Look up continuous detection.
>>545040951I like it. Horror-themed? Adventure? Detective game?
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>>545043908People need to get their tongue out of silksong's ass, it wasn't all that. Hollow Knight was better.
>>545009989I know that person. It's me! And I think I know how to make me buy my game.
>>545044194Reminder that their words don't matter. The only thing that matters is the money that they spend.
>>545036827I cant tell if thats a penis or a vagina rhat points outward
>>545043695Gamers are like women in dating. What they say has no meaning. They buy whatever is the most shilled slop to them. Like Silksong. Like half of the buyers haven't even heard of Hollow Knight let alone played it, but because there was a bandwagon for it, they splurged out 20$ on it and never played past the tutorial.
>>545043695A new game that might be fun but will require them to take a risk and will force them to learn new things versus playing a game they already own that they know is fun, browsing the internet for free, ect. I know which one I pick 98% of days desu.
>>545009989>>545043695>waaaaaaah turworld meanies on a shite platform>why won't they give me their life savigns for my delusional faggotryBe happy anybody is buying games at all, you fucking retards. Piracy is always an option. or they can refund and fuck with your financially through chargebacks.Entitled pretentious cum guzzling faggot niggers.
>>545044445This is also true. The reality is that the vast vast majority of gamers just want to be part of the whatever the current thing is because 1. it lets them socialize over it 2. it being a huge popular thing means it's almost certainly a decent game the number of people willing to go exploring and looking for weird niche games is just a tiny minority, most people don't have the free will for that.
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Making games no one wants to play is not "productive." Normie hobbies like scrolling social media or watching movies are genuinely more productive because at least that contributes to the economy and so makes everyone richer.
>>545044416it's supposed to be a small penis bulge
>>545043934Major trvke. Scrolling has taken over the normisphere, most people don't even watch TV anymore they just haven't come to terms with the fact that they are addicted to short form video content so they pay a Netflix subscription to run on their television while they look at their phone for several hours after work.You always hear people yapping about the dangers of phones for kids but look at what they've done to your parents. Seniors are unironically crippled by match 3's and Facebook ragebait.This is what your game is competing with btw
>>545044119I just feel like somebody would need a pretty shit CPU to the point where the game is unplayable regardless, so I shouldn't worry about it.
>>545044803True
>>545044803>afterI wish, I have to hear random tiktok audio playing at 15% volume from somewhere in the office any time there is even a 5 minute period of downtime
>>545044803seems china's disgusting evil slant-eyed chink plan they enacted when they made tiktok worked.
>>545044803saw a 2 year old actively scrolling through tiktok on the bus earlier. freaks me out.
>>545044778hope for your sake this is based, don't think I'd want to live the life of someone who believed this unironically
how is doomscrolling tiktok different from 4chan though
>>545045620it's not. both will make you an undersocialised freak.
>>545045620One is for normies, one is not take a guess where we Saharan fishermen forum goers fall under
>>545045490I passed by two six year olds in a target parking lot following their mom with a phone, and they were saying to it "Hey Siri, generate me a picture of a cat"
>>545045620same drug, different purity. >>545045968kids born after like 2015 don't have any chance they're going to be so retarded
i can feel it coming. i'm about to have a manic episode which leads in a 2 month dev binge that will inevitably collapse into existential dread
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>>545045846I consider myself a normie.
>>545036827Sex with cute men
>>545044365why would you buy your own game?
Im about to get back where i left off. Like 3 years ago hell do i know. Anyways booba tennis. Should i make skins too like clothing items?
>>545046783It's about making people like me, so people used to wait for a massive sale, to buy my game.
>>545026359>god-emperor gabe could roll out an update that shoots me in the face the second i publishand he'd still release it on steamhe's THAT determined to serve yachts man a steak
