Safia edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>545199352>Thread questionCan a cute waifu salvage a mediocre game?
>>545339324not a crpg
First for Epstein Drive
My prediction for the best crpg of 2026? Solasta 2 or secret of the weepstone.
>>545339487it's an rpg you play on the computer
>>545339507>couldn’t even manage to make a thread
>>545339324kill yourself and not a crpg
>>545339695And Zelda is a game on a computing device where you play the role of Link, doesn't make it a CRPG
>>545339695nta, its not a crpg.That's two threads so far where the OP has been subverted and polluted with trash games that don't belong here.
I think it's pretty neat that a full price crpg is still on the list of top most popular games on steam, alongside or even above a bunch of free to play games and fotm games and shooters and whatnot. Years after it came out too.I think that's neat.
bloodborne is my favorite crpg
Outerworlds 2 combat, gameplay, map design and reactivity has massively improved compared to 1. The writing has only gotten mildly better though.
>>545340152you could bake a better one these are dead hours anywaydidn't know you guys were so anal about that
cool roleplaying games
I don't understand how enemy aggro works in WOTR. Sometimes they focus on my tank , but often they just ignore all the melee units and charge at Ember or something.
>>545340187kys Mintharafag >>545335094
>>545340187>between war thunder and pubgwhat was their secret?
>>545340259>didn't know you guys were so analWe prefer the term "mid functioning autist"
>no bloodlines 2 is good!https://files.catbox.moe/aky76o.mp4
>>545340259that pic got those same replies in the last thread too. what were you expecting?
Does Magic Deceiver work with Lich spells or just spells from the class because I want to staple Exsanguinate on to Chain Lightning
You can only post about CRPGs that I like and I don’t play any CRPGs
Was there still a RT dlc planned or can I finally actually play it?
>>545340664More dlc is coming
>>545340503why is it so janky, it's like an 8th grade drama play
>>545340513>>adorable>Getting pretty sick of this word>is she the only cute girl, why do i only see her with that background>Oh god is that you mantharafag>you don't capitalize the f in fag you knowthose were the replies idk what you're bitching about>>545340629word let's talk about rogue traderis yrliet autistic??
>>545340616Magic deceiver doesn’t work with anything other than magic deceiver. I think azata and maybe new GD are the only paths they really benefit from.
Crpgs may be my favorite type of gameI hate it cause there are so few good ones
>>545340728Well, I doubt the last dlc will give me what I crave so badly but I might as well wait and see
>>545340316everyone attacks the closest unit. there's sometimes a custom script
Finished. 7/10. But what I find sad is that the company and the people who gave us one of my favorite games ever (Fallout & New Vegas) have been unable, even after 15 years and with all of Microsoft's money and latest technological advances, to come up with a single new game mechanic that could take this proven but ancient formula somewhere new. Can any of you think of a single new game mechanic in The Outer Worlds that wasn't already in Deus Ex or the original Fallout games more than 25 years ago? Unfortunately, I can't. Give me a living, simulated world! True non-linearity! Give me something more than loot boxes, maintenance shafts, loading screens and level grinding in a static scripted world.
>>545340885That's lame...
>>545340813>is yrliet autistic??Yep but Marazhai fixed herLet's have 500 posts on this topic
Possible contenders for crpg of the year in 2026 from most to least likely>dark heresy>solasta 2>UnderRail 2: infusion >clockwork revolution>banquet for fools>secret of the weepstone>swordhaven>legends of the round table
posted it again award
So aside from pathfinder and RT, what other crpgs that are relatively new would you recommend?I have some cash to spend
If owlcat has almost as many employees as larian then why do there games look like that?
best crpg of 2025?
>>545341351Underrail, colony ship and wasteland 3
>>545340993>Give me a living, simulated world! True non-linearity! Give me something more than loot boxes, maintenance shafts, loading screens and level grinding in a static scripted world.Anon... you're not the target audience anymore...
>>545341398don't bring that race shit around here
>>545341470Pathfinder the dragon's demand
>>545341351
>>545341554Never got far into wasteland 3I didnt really know where to go, all the quests I had were like 5-10 levels higher than me
>>545340789because it was probably made by 8th graders
>>545341351If you like a game that leans more on the tactical combat side but still has good characters and stories, Jagged Alliance 3. Also some party banter and lots of interjections but don't expect romances or anything (though some characters have good or bad opinions of each other, and this also affects them in a minor way and can also change over time)
>>545340993I don't mind everything you complained about as long as the story is good, the characters are hot or cool, its not too buggy, and its not pozzed.
>>545340664Two more DLCsNext one is some sort of space museum featuring necrons. Also implantable augments as a gameplay mechanics.Following one is a graveyard of ships.Both will have a new companion.
Putting all my money on solasta 2 coin, I like to gamble.
>>545342003>Jagged Alliance 3how is that? i tried ja2 but it was old
*drops a stinking cloud on the thread*
>>545342039How do owlbabs justify 4 fucking dlcs?
>>545342419literally dead genre, nothing to buy
>hex crawling >con, perception and survival checks on the world mapSolasta 2 is even more boomer core than secret of the weepstone and that is being made by actual 70 year olds, its going to flop.
>>545342039Is there any hope to getting power fists?I just want to punch people, or claw themIll take lightning claws too
>>545341351SKALD: Against the Black PrioryCyclopean: The Great Abyss, your enjoyment of this one might depend on how much you enjoy dungeon crawling but I got a good 40 hours out of it.
>>545342564>filename
>>545342564Why is there nipple bumps in her armour?
>>545342405I prepared Delay Poison just for you shits. Not communal though, the rest of you will have to deal with that
>>545342176I wouldn't suggest it if I didn't like it. And actually I liked it quite a lot. I also played ja2 waaaay back when. This is a bit more streamlined? I guess? But not in a bad way I think. To me it feels it has the right amount of that kind of autism but not more than it needs, if that makes sense. Like there's only a few main types of ammo though they have hollow point etc, but it's not total /k/ autism. Many of the mods are the same across all guns, though not all. So you can for example, on most guns, have a mod that increases overwatch cone and interrupt accuracy.I have complaints, and of course for a CRPG I would want more dialogue trees especially with companions and so on, but there are often multiple approaches and whether things go one way or another can have some effect later on.Overall I'd say it's 9/10, and I'd immediately give JA4 a chance if they made it.
>>545341796It's been a wild ride watching larian start as kickstarter beggars and now they made the best crpg ever made. proud of them
>>545342969>best crpg ever madeI disagree, but I'm glad they're successful. Rising tide lifts all boats. Overall it's good for CRPGs.
>>545343107>Rising tide lifts all boats. hasn't worked so far has it
>>545343107>I disagreedon't inject your own personal preference into what is clearly a statement about games in general. at the very least have the decency to prepend it as your own opinion.nta
I disagree
I never made it to act 2 in BG3I just couldnt be bothered
nonoonoooooooooooooo
>>545343504I'm not sure what you mean, how long do you think it takes for a company to do something like "BG3 was really successful, maybe a CRPG isn't out of the question"I'd bet anything that if Wasteland 4 had been on the fence, that it's completely in the pipeline now. We also just got the open beta for Pillars1 TB-mode. Speaking of, surprised no one's weighed in on it yet. I'm interested in trying it, but I enjoy the system they have and refined in Deadfire. But I don't think that would have come about without BG3's success.We aren't privy to what studios are talking about or planning or working on, so we can't say it hasn't worked, but studios who are equipped to work on CRPGs of course had to take note that BG3 is still in the top whatever on that list anon keeps posting.
OH NO NO NOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>spawning system screws up and plops a level 22 dude in chapter 2Killed him, but he slew half my party with his 100+ damage shot chains, so I went on and reloaded. I wasn't going to drop all that money on resurrections, even if his +4 bow was very good. I think it's the more party members mod, since that's meant to place more enemies to counteract having a larger party.
>>545344429>so I went on and reloadedof course you did
What is the most esoteric (known to very few people) crpg you've played?
>>545344429>so I went on and reloaded.Shitter detected. Why are you even playing this game? LA Unfair or GTFO.
>>545343885I understand that games deep into development can't be easily overhauled but it's also been two years and I haven't seen anything that makes me think "oh they took a page from the bg3 book"
>>545344816Very interested in the idea of a "good christian medieval cRPG" but inquisitor was interesting at least
>>545340187It's hella surprising desu, Larian stopped updating and their modding tools are hella limited. Gameplay is way simpler than their predecessor, Divinity. How do they do it? It's the Co-op? The fact that you can romance your player 2?
>>545344816I played and finished avernum 1&3 and all of the geneforges. I've played other spiderweb games but didnt finish them
>>545345030werent there all those woke crpg that flopped
>>545345147Thry just have artists making unrealistically beautiful characters with veins popping out and 6 packs on everyone even when they should have a dad bod instead
>>545344816bg3
>>545345262>>545345101Meant for this
>>545345004Unfair was one of the most frustrating and unfun rpgs I have ever played through. Why does everyone on here love it so much?
>>545345451Unfair before act 3 is torture, unfair after is totally fine by then you can most certainly have last stand on everyone
>>545345451Most people here play on hard at most
>>545344816Quest for Glory series
>>545345602I just did act 1&2 on hard. Made a save at mythic choice, started off with lich may swap to demon. I've only done act 1&2 unfair once and it was not a fun experience but at least I can say I've beat it before
>>545345759>at least I can say I've beat it beforeand who are you saying this to who will give a shit?it's like legacy of bhaal, just straight un-fun. The best you can hope from people is a concerned look and a pitying smile about your condition
>>545345451Cause even a retard with half his brain can break the game EZ. Unfair balances the game back to where it should be.
fully voiced is a mistake for most studios I think trying to copy bg3 on that front will be a bitter lesson
why would you play above core?
>>545345891I care :)
>>545345891I already played with quadruple hp mods and extra ac/saves legacy of bhaal is nothing I added difficulty mods on top but I was running modded subclasses like twilight cleric and peace cleric to make that viable
>>545344429Nah, that guy always appears with 2 plague bears in my game, and I don't have mods. He's just really strong for that chapter.
>>545346059Oh thats not the name of the new shit they added to 3 its from 1? Man
>>545345946I play on Hard but I encourage new players to start on Normal and for everyone else to play at whatever difficulty gives them the best balance of challenge and fun with how they enjoy playing.
how many times have you played wotr?lets say, gone through the maze or equivalent
>>545344429Where is this exactly? It looks like nenio puzzle pillars area but I dont remember this guy being there and I just went through it
>>545346369I've got to threshold at least thrice and to act 5 one more time than that as demon just didnt continue that for whatever reason
Whore.
>>545346406most people don't lose half their party to a 128hp skeleton in act 3
>>545346579I'm glad Chris Avellone got cancelled just for writing this character.
>>545346591Only thing that killed one of my party members in act 2 (hard) was the morta flc that place is more dangerous than anything in drezen
>>545346591You should be able to take that down in act 2. The game starts throwing optional level 20s at you in act 2 and mandatory one in act 3. Need I remind you that some of the bosses by act 4 are level 60?
>>545346843Reflex 11 and not prone immune means they lose to grease at least
>>545346591It actually has 183 HP.>>545346913Yeah, I dropped it into a pit while I took care of its mates, then equipped one of my guys with anti arrow buffs. Took the rest of my party far away. It took a while, but I was able to kill him.
>>545346708it's normal to have guys die if you are playing blind. there's a lot of spots and tricky mechanics that can fuck you if you didn't prepare. swarms, level drain, petrification, but also big damage like fireball in act 1 or crystals later.personally, the fun part for me was preparing and predicting what the game will throw at you. i don't see much fun in a replay, isn't it obvious you'll win if you know the enemy moves?
>>545347274Eh it's still fun and enemies still can fight back even if you know swarms in lepers are going to fuck everyone besides the guy with bookworm headband for example
Look at what they did to my boy..
>>545347430would an angel arue that wanted to fall have simps?
If you haven't solo'd IWD2 as a sorcerer you better lower your fucking tone when you address me
>>545347430>if you weren't nice to him even if he gets his heart back he doesn't become nice againAlso how the fuck is he supposed to be a challenge after you already beat baphomet
rogue trader isn't a crpg
>>545341554How good it's colony ship combat? Seemed kinda bland from the previews>>545344429Why is Sosiel mogging?
Are there any RTWP games that actually have cool looking combat?
>>545347728He isn't. Ember with Dispell sickness made him kneel and job, still feel kinda bad.His statblock is higher than Baphomet tho
skyrim but remade as an isometric crpg
>>545347527Isn't this Trias? Do people simp for Trias?
>>545347895dai was probably the most flashy rtwp ever got to be before devs started dropping it
>>545347895Somehow very few games can beat nwn melee animations
>>545347895Quarterstaff has better anims than every other weapon in wotr seems
>>545347895i always liked kotor melee
>>545339324not a crpg also die
bg3 but remade as a skyrimlike
>Fighter>Fighter/Gish potential>Fighter/Thief potential>Sorceror>Fighter>Fighter>Fighter disguised as a clericTf is this party composition? What was Avellone thinking when he made Torment?
Barbarian, Rogue, Wizard.
>>545342584Yeah probably. Nothing announced but it would be very reasonableWon't be out till well into next year
Paladin, Bard, Sorcerer
>Outcast MarazhaiThe scion of a noble family, he was exiled from his craftworld after a scandalous tryst with a Farseer's daughter.>Succubus YrlietInstead of autism, she has BPD. Instead of being a social pariah, she's popular among her peers and skilled at manipulation.
dude what if these characters were completely different
Would skyrim have been more successful if it was turnbased?
>>545351404I would prolly enjoy it more if it was in third person perspective. Fucking hate first perspective games, everything looks lame as fuck. I don't know why normalfags eat that shit up
The dragonborn cums :3
>>545350116Back onto the backlog it goes thenAnd hey, maybe a dlc will add a qt as well
HOLY SHIT TYRANNY 2 WAS ANNOUNCED
Instead of turning pillars into a bg3 clone they should just make a new orginal IP. They have shown they have the potential to make cool new setting with tyranny and grounded.
HOLY SHIT TRUMP JUST NOMINATED SAWYER AS HEAD OF NASA
maybe i'll play pillars for the first time this weekend. how's the tb mode?
I can't believe Swen is doing KOTOR 3
new standalone wotr campaign is out
>>545354074Tyranny was so good, that we still don't have it's ending
>>545339324Not a crpg. Go ahead and kill yourself asap, tranny
>>545341351Expeditions: Rome, Necromancer's Tale, Disco Elysium, DOS2
>>545356413how many times are you going to post the same thing
>>545340187Sometimes I get pessimistic about the industry when I see the popularity of gacha shovelware and soulless corporate slop so this reminder makes me feel better.
>>545356527schizo
>>545356527As many times as it takes for you to kill yourself or to stop talking about not-crpgs in a crpg thread. Whichever comes first. Kill yourself, tranny
Prove that you're not a cultist waifunigger and name at least 1 thing about your waifu that you don't like
>>545357358based
>>545357469her scars & metal things
>>545357469Lana Beniko killed countless innocent Republic citizens, potentially literally hundreds or even thousands. She spent decades as a Sith, where she not only achieved the rank of Lord, but also served as Director of Sith Intelligence, where she was responsible for countless intelligence and counter-intelligence operations. Given what we know about how the Sith Empire conducts themselves in warfare, they regularly make use of weapons of mass destruction and target civilians on purpose, and as Director of Intelligence, she would likely be complicit, or at best aware of these things.It's easy to forget this because in the time we know her, she only does mean things to bad people who deserve it, but she had a career as a Sith Lord and Director of Intelligence for decades before we met her.
>>545358042do you hate shadowheart because she's not ugly and doesn't have an ugly bob?
>>545358042>I hate that my waifu had character development and became a better personFascinating behaviour
>>545358042And the thing you don't like...?
>>545357358nobody's talking about not-crpgs except you
>>545357469I hate that his magic stops me from nursing him back to health
>>545358346Kill yourself, tranny
>>545358346op pic isn't from a crpg
>>545358696nobody's talking about it but you cried about it like 6 times
>>545358730you really think there's only one guy posting in this thread?crazy fucker
>>545358042What does Lana even do after they scrapped the eternal throne stuff? Presumably she doesn't go back to sith intelligence when you're a republic character but I can't see her joining them either.
Anevia is a straight white male and (s)he doesn't suck.
>>545357469I hate that I have to use a mod to make her romanceable.
>>545360184After the Zakuul storyline is concluded, Lana remains in the Alliance as their head of intelligence. She stays there regardless of whether you're Imp or Pub. When you choose to rejoin one of the factions or stay independent, Lana stays with you in all three cases. She doesn't always get along with all republic personnel, but many of them don't know her past, and the ones that do at least have respect for her personally due to her role in the Zakuul crisis.Lana left the Empire behind because they're a bunch of backstabbing crabs in a bucket, so she doesn't really mind joining the Republic. She's pretty ambivalent about that choice, since she is just going to play spy games for you and your former Alliance members she likes, regardless of faction. The war isn't particularly important to her, and she's not particularly loyal to the Empire since she genuinely doesn't like the Sith way of doing things.Which is reflected in her story arc. The Sith believe that Fate (the Force) does not dictate their lives. Personal efficacy is extremely central to the Sith religion, and Lana defies this by believing that Fate (the Force) has chosen you to destroy the Eternal Empire. This contradicts Sith ethos, but her personal impressions she's gained from her time in these events cause her to abandon that ethos and start believing in Fate. Jedi ethos believes that Fate (the Force) will guide you to where you need to be, and you're a symbiotic relationship with it. So she adopts Jedi ethos, even though she would scoff if you ever said that.I could ramble about this forever. It's all quite well written. swtor is a hidden gem that people don't look twice at since it's an mmo but there is good writing behind it, at least the characters and world/religion.
>>545361954>WARNING>If you click CONTINUE you will start a ROMANCE with LANA BENIKO>Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE you want to do this?
>>545362294bg3 should have this
>>545362294It's nice when games have accessibility options for autists
To be fair, the gale incident left many wanting such a feature
>>545362573many autists*
>>545361954can you play it offline? seems a decent game but >mmo
>>545363337Swtor hasn't been a real mmo for over a decade. You can play the whole game solo.
>>545363552sounds like a "no" then
>>545363337No, but what you can do is just not engage with any of the mmo aspects of the game. The class stories and first couple expansions are free, and the rest of the expansions are unlocked forever to keep if you simply subscribe once. So the game essentially costs 15usd for all story content.The only thing you can't do without a subscription are raids, which admittedly are some of the more fun content, but in terms of story, they are self-contained and not important to the class stories or expansion main stories. if you ever feel like playing them, you can just subscribe to play them whenever you want, and then stop. Most people don't remain subscribed year-round, because you genuinely don't need to. In fact, I would guess that the vast majority of current players just do the subscribe once for all story content trick.You also don't have to interact with people. All story content can be solo'd. Dungeons have a matchmaking system if you ever get curious about them, but they also are not part of the main/class/expansion story. The game can legitimately be played completely solo, and completely for 15usd one time.I personally do enjoy the social aspect, I ran a guild for some years and was part of a guild that did raids and all those things, so be open to the possibility you'll get into that stuff, but none of it is necessary, and you can fully ignore the fact that the game is an "mmo" if you're just looking for kotor2.5. A lot of swtor's story beats are taken from the original design notes of kotor 3. So while I would not call it kotor3, it does contain many of the things the writers intended to have in kotor3. You follow Revan into the unknown regions to face the "true Sith", which was going to be the plot of kotor3.Nothing beats wandering around the star wars galaxy, enjoying the planets and just enjoying the locales. Chilling out, playing the stories, and wandering around.
Do you get more exp if you have fewer companions in wotr?
>>545363337No. You can play it solo, but it is still technically an MMO.And it gets grindy and boring VERY quickly.
>>545362294>[Comfort Lana]
>>545363991I'm not sure but I doubt it since everyone levels up when you do even the ones you're not using.
>>545363991You can turn off exp sharing.
>>545363730Pretty sure it's free to play.
>>545363991you always get at least 1/6, so might as well keep it on if you have a full party
>>545363991Turn off xp sharing.Wotr is weird in that it calculates starting xp with new party memebers as though you had xp sharing active the entire time so you can game the system by only turning it on when you get a new member. And you really should because if you don't they start severely underleveled and entirely useless.
>>545339324Extremely based thread.
>>545365479the plan is to kill off people so I only have 4 in my team, to make it a bit more challenging.
who else is high af right now? also so far i like the roundabout background in outer worlds 2 being a idiot savant is fun.
>>545364920that's got nothing to do with anything, though.why drop such a non sequitur here
>>545366305I like typing :)
>>545366052why is this font so fuck ugly
>>545366701>:(
>>545366052im high af
>>545343885>Speaking of, surprised no one's weighed in on it yetThe beta test starts today, they just posted the announcement for it two days agoPersonally am interested in trying it out, will probably post something about it once I have enough time to try it out properly
New portrait replacer for Yrliet just dropped
Traveller crpg when?
Well done...owlcat...well done...HOWEVER
>>545371502Kinda Ugly
>>545371502Nah needs her high ponytail.Also not ugly enough.
>>545371502I'd rather have this one colorized. It captures her sour attitude better.
>>545344352Honestly?I would kill for a capeshit-themed cRPG. With waifus.
>>545372083Lancer CRPG Do it Swen
>>545372815Stop shilling your game here and finish your comic, Abbadon
>>545372380she cute
Real time with pause always has turns, they just happen in real time. All people obsessed with turn-based games suck at real time strategy games because they think slow and act slow - they say a RTWP game that adds a turn based mode is better even though it is the same exact game but now five times slower with them auto attacking trash mobs in turns one at a time instead of all at once.
With an end-goal of GD as a shifter what are some recommendations for mythic paths before then and should I be bothering with any shifter variants or is the base one good enough? I assume demon is still a good choice and I think trickster gets to keep some stuff as well?
>>545373415My choices are always: turnbased and rtwp where you can switch anytime > rtwp only > turn based only
>>545375029Its not a crpg
It has occurred to me that Bioware is by far the most carcinogenic thing that has happened to the RPG genre, and it's not getting nearly enough flak for it here. It seems to me like the no. 1 "hated company" is Bethesda, but I will claim that Bethesda's sole sin, starting with Oblivion, is making dumb games for dumb people, and its negative reputation is inflated only because they took over Fallout and made it dumb. Meanwhile let's take a look at what specifically Bioware added to the table that has become mainstream:>Fake choices>Romances>Degenerate playersexual companions>Gameplay taking a backseat because it's for nerds>Popamole and non-RPG mechanics>Arguably also Bioware-style "party" building of one player character and a bunch of dumbass uncontrollable or only partly controllable "deep" companions (compare Fallout to Ass Effect as to how the former's glorified tagalong mercs are different)>Awesome buttons (Dragon Age 2 is the actual source of this)>Probably also a focus on a "cinematic experience"I'm probably forgetting more. Just about ALL the stupidity in modern RPGs can be traced directly to Bioware's efforts at ruining the genre. Without Bioware we wouldn't have bear sex, clown parties, RPGs as games where "you play a role" and a whole lot of other shit.I have no idea how this company is even still alive after putting out fiasco after fiasco in recent years, but once they finally go under, I will call for a celebration that the greatest enemy of RPGs has finally vanished from the face of the earth.
>>545360578Imoen?
>>545365906Or just park them at your camp? Letting a few companions live will be useful due to Crusade meetings
Rpg decline isn't real, games are bigger and better than ever.
>back in my day (before BG2) rpgs were for real tough guys who didn't need no romances no siryawn
>>545349949>>545350141which party would win?
>>545377026The one with conan
>>545372815No one cares about Lancer lore, Armored Core and Mechwarrior mogs it
what makes ecclesitheurge so good?
>>545375898Of course
>>545375715big fish in a small pond, all their games were dated on release, origins is like 4 or 5 years late, mass effect shouldve come out in 2003, kotor, 2001
Did outerworlds 2 flop or is Obsidian fine?
>>545377860it did worse than 1, its also way more expensive, had it been 40$ people might have been more favorable, but its not, whoever said to sell it at 70$ is retarded
Who are the good guys in outerworlds 2?
>>545378448the ones who stand up to advanced capitalism and evil corpos
>>545378624The space communist also seem to vs evil though.
>>545378624Oh so it's a commie game with commie strawmen
>>545378326Microsoft.They also decided to sell avowed at $70 when it would have done substantially better at $50, as it's a $50 game.Suits are out of touch and don't comprehend that the pricetag carries expectations on its own, and if those expectations aren't met at a cursory glance most people will just ignore it and wait for the price to dip to where their expectations align with it.
>>545379082avowed is not a $50 game, its $40, dev need to realize theyre competing with cyberpunk2077, that set the the bar for a $60 rpg, and that game has problems
>>545378713It's going to fuck you up if you ever find out about cyberpunk
>>545377115Neither of those parties has a fighter/thief though
>>545375715Bioware would have died at inquisition but they pulled it out and inquisition performed well enough to keep them around.Unironically I like mass effect 1 and 2 but hot take, neither are crpg's. ME1 was an archaic cover shooter masquerading as one, 2 benefitted from them dropping the pretense and just making it a full fledged space pulp cover shooter. You're also misjudging a lot of what we wouldn't have though because larian was always how they were going as far back as the original divinity games. We'd still have bear sex without bioware.
>>545378624TOW writing: Too high-brow for the people playing.It really makes sense when you think about it.
>>545378713>>545379409corporations are basically communists, you just replace the government with the corp and nothing changes
The more I continue this bg3 tactician playthrough the more retarded I believe my friends to be for telling me it is extremely difficult. Not a single fight has made me reload saves. I’m not an optimise fag either so it is just straight easy.
What's the first crpg you played? Mine was probably drakensang (both this and river of time), played on my mother's laptopI never finished them, but I definetly enjoyed them.I remember once I asked her to leave me in the car as she went to do something, so I could play while in the car. Pretty comfy
We need a distributist crpg where you fight both capitalism and communism
Is fable 2 a crpg?
>>545379374Multi year old patched games aren't weighed the same as new games anon, otherwise I'd argue that games should get more expensive as time goes on and they receive more development.$50 is the appropriate msrp for new games of that type to make room for the 20% sales either during summer or the holidays.
>>545379754Germany 1941 simulator>>545379629I reloaded a bunch of times but in general if I can finish a game on max difficulty on my first run it cannot possibly be considered difficoult. Some people have simply never played another crpg
>>545379754Disco elysium
>>545379629Yes, what did you expect? It's a game whose primary goal was to bring in players new to the genre, and they succeeded to a huge degree. Those people are either not looking to be challenged, or they're challenged by literally just walking around let alone combat.
we need a crpg where you can gain the favor of 4 factions only to outplay them all at the end cause you're so smart
>>545378448Its not about profitability or even art or even entertainment, its pure propaganda paid for by taxpayers.
>>545375715Old bioware set the table you eat at, wretch. What happened to them was a tragedy.
>>545379871well yeah, thats what the $30 dlc is for, and all the patches were bug fixes, which is how the game should be functioning when you bought it, this is not some live service constantly adding content, theyre fixing the game as per their obligation to customers; games are supposed to work out of the box. it doesnt matter what the msrp is, what matters is what their competition is and perception, and when competition is much better and fairer, your fucked if youre trying to sell anywhere near that price. you have to go cheaper because people will get more value out of that extra $10 than not with cyberpunk, then you can recoup losses with dlc and people will be much more fair at that point because the game is $40, more people will take the chance to spend money on you, they may be pleasantly surprised and theyll buy your dlc, thats how you gouge them
Right I've got two thoughts left for my WotR run. Still want to aim for GD but now its between Elemental rampager angel of salvation -> GD for merged spellbook or Weretouched shifter Demon -> GD for keeping the BAB and natural attack theme going from the getgo. Also just to double check, motherless tiefling's extra bite still procs while wildshaped right?
>>545380104ahem
Fallout76 is the only game in the franchise that I truly consider genuine trashfire garbagio. Fallout 4 has good atmosphere and exploration and depending on what you want out of a fallout game, is arguably the best. FNV is a great rpg and the originals are classic. 3 is well liked but I haven’t tried itI agree that playersexuality and oversimplification of player choice has done significant damage to RPGs, and especially the special focus on “narrative experiences.” Even so CP77 is one of the best games I have played recently because it 1. successfully built an interesting game world and 2. featured believable characters, so when done well, the result can be surprisingly good. I get these thoughts run contrary to many stock opinions but I don’t mean this to be a shitpost. I’m about to start WOTR and I’ll be objective of how the experience goes
>>545381205Cyberpunk is an old game though. A new game is not competing against an old game because the assumption is most people already played the old game and aren't being held hostage by the competition in value.Companies also have no obligation to fix their games. It's just a very good idea if they want people to even consider buying their future products.
>>545377239Free +2 to hit that doesn't get overridden by other bnuses
After looking at some mentions from the thread Debating between gettingZoira Age of ShatteringDark EnvoyNew Arc LineArchaelund Skald Against the black prioryAnyone played any of these and have any comments about their pros and cons?
>>545382056it being old doesnt really matter right now, we are in the plateau of gaming, nothing has been groundbreaking since cyberpunk2077>A new game is not competing against an old game because the assumption is most people already played the old game and aren't being held hostage by the competition in value.it is, because its a defining factor if theyre going to buy the game, because the common thinking is "i paid $60 for this game and this new game is $50 and is significantly worse, theres no reason to buy it">Companies also have no obligation to fix their gamesthey do, because theres enough consumer protection laws in different major countries that force their hands into doing so, especially on steam where they hand out refunds like candy
>>545380104Isn't gothic literally this?
>>545383181NTA, but why CP77 groundbreaking? Never touched, but seems like a hella simple action rpg. Witcher 3 felt more WOW than it, specially with the tricks the devs pulled to make the world feel a bit more lively, said tricks that were used in Red Dead 2 to make a very immersive game space
>>545383635It isn’t groundbreaking. BG3 and disco elysium are the only groundbreaking games this decade.
>>545383181People play games for entertainment. If they think a $50 game looks interesting enough they will buy it even if they just finished a $60 game that was really good.By your logic games should all be like a dollar because there are super cheap old games that are still well worth playing.
>>545379746DOS2 was my first oneA friend who loved DOS1 got me and two others to buy DOS2 for a coop playthrough, but the other two dropped it after 12 hours and I ended up finishing the game on my own
>>545344352I still find the random inclusion of the expanse hilarious.Froggy was frothing in the mouth so much, he just grabbed whatever was tangentially Owlcat related in his mind
>>545383173Have played Skald, would recommend itI think it does the whole Lovecraftian crpg thing well, but the artstyle can be rough on the eyes at times. Combat is also pretty funDidn't like how the game always seemed to use your PCs stats for dialogue checks, makes it pointless to build any of the companions for it and basically means that you handicap yourself if you aren't the face of the party
>>545357469her lack of a pregnancy route/ending
>>545383635well i wouldve said 2020, i couldve gone back as far 2015, but that wouldve included fallout 4, which isnt bad, but not good either, and even then cyberpunk 2077 is very much a lived in world, theres a lot of stuff going on, that you understand why they had problems with development that could be explained with they had bad autist handlers. but the point is we have plateau with gaming for the past 5, maybe 10, years, and its not really going to get any better>>545384368and money is tight right now for a lot of people so they want to get the most bang for their buck, especially with indie gamesand yes, thats why they go on sale, which is fair
>>545357469She lacks dialogue interactions, usually if you are not romancing her there is very content to her, down to her personal quest being not that great
>>545357469He has a penis
>>545385495To this day, I am still salty there is masterfully crafted Female Astarion mods that employ cutting edge voice A.I, yet, no one bothered to make a cute female Daeren portrait yet
>>545385397So she's sort of like a female version of Heinrix?
I just got it.Jimmy Heinrix
>>545386212epicnow force your Larry reddit meme some more
marazhai and marzipan have the same number of letters
>>545386626Who's larry?
I wanna smooch her.>>545357469Her complete lack of subtlety. I think the only two companions who know what she's about are Ember because of her mad prophet insight and Daeran who's always teasing her. The rest of the roster are either completely oblivious to her obvious evil shit or just don't care.
>>545385397Why is SHE there?
>>545386951Cute elf>>545385998I think Heinrix is better, he often intervenes in dialogue in an interesting wayI think Cassia is a better comparison, likewise her interactions are just "uhh pretty colors!" and if you are not romancing her she's just not that great
>>545357469Arue and Cass share the same issue of being far too innocent/naive despite their experiences necessitating otherwise. Cass as least has the sheltered noble excuse but if often feels like that gets taken way further than it should. Shadowheart is specced in the worst domain and gives up the secret sharran schtick way too fast(same as astarion and vampirism) . Leliana as the softened divine swings back into being way too soft. Maia rua is a goddamn terrorist and didn't like me flipping the bird on all the factions and going to the final dungeon alone
>everyone treats my psyker like some galaxy-wide hero for saving a piligrim ship>also picked Brand of Shame which says my warp shenanigans accidentally killed thousands of people aboard the shipDoes this make much sense? Have half a mind to restart because it just seems stupid.
>>545358042You only like her because she looks like your ugly self inserts
>>545388036>it just seems stupidsounds like a perfect match for 40k
>>545387529While I wouldn't say that Cassia is like Cam, I'd agree that Heinrix has a lot more to say and is an interesting lad to have around. It's just that he doesn't have much content or development if you aren't romancing him. You don't even get to know how much he loves regicide if you're just bros.Then again, I'm biased since I don't really care for Cam but I adore Cassia, so perhaps I'm just blind to their similarities
>>545386626Jimmy, Larry and Marzipan are their names cope
Are Owlkek gonna have the inqusition kill the femcel inqusitor if she romances Larry in her ending
>>545388941As long as they have sex before that
>>545379629Some fights have gimmicks that you may not have prepared beforehand but otherwise it's pretty easy, no stat bloat like in wotr unfair.
>>545381381thats literally just the anarch ending but suicidal and retarded
>>545383173We don't play non-Owlcat,Larian or Bioware games here chud
why doesn't the other protect daeran if you kill him?
>>545372083>Swen picks up Bg after Bioware abandons it>Swen picks up SW after Bioware abandons itWould be kino.
>>545344816Not the most esoteric (I've played some really old pixel dnd) but probably the most fun I had with an unpopular crpg.
>>545389285>absurdist meme obsidianthat doesn't sound kino at all
>>545389143
Swen's favorite video game scifi setting was Starcraft
>>545389639aw geeze, its one of those stupid bitches
call of cthulu crpg when?
>>545387787Who's Maia again?And it's kinda funny how much Leliana flip flops morally wise, she's the one who wanted to go full Total Dworfnigger death during Inquisition
poe2
>>545389551Care to fill me in? Lady in the middle looks hot
>>545390849nta but this is MaiaBest girl in the Pillars games
>>545391180qrd on her romance?
>>545339324Are there lesbians in the new VTMB? Are they hot?
>>545391410lol
>>545340993>the company and the peopleHow many of the Fallout staff do you think still work at the company?
>>545391379it's more a long-term fling than a romance
>>545391379she loves her bird and her jobyou can come second if you simp for orcJapan
>>545391410not a crpg
True olwcat fan incorporates cuckoldry even in their character's backstory
>>545391379Much of it is getting her bird to like you while helping her with her inner struggles pertaining to her job as a sort of assassin for RauataiI like it a lot. It's quite slowburn, but I vastly prefer slowburn romances over going straight into the shagging.
>>545392048>He was as beloved by the people as it gets for a planetary prince in Warhammer
>>545392048go back
>>545392495Make me, tranny
>>545357469Her evil counterpact is a glorified merc and has no interactions besides rubbing your cock while she bullies a Baphomet jobber in a optional dungeon that doesn't even matter for the evil paths anyway
Why is there no wagecuck origin in rogue trader
>>545392658nepotism
>>545392561callling me a tranny when you take reddit posts? Erm?
>>545358042>a real answer about a non-owlcat gamea monumental moment for /crpgg/
>>545393054he is literally the definition of a cultist waifunigger
>>545391410Patience is nonbinary and they're valid and cute
>>545393054He's a retarded waifufag retard
>Discord confirmed Underrail 2 has romancesIt's over.
>>545391075Myth drannor was a classic dnd tabletop module and this game is like playing toee/turn based kingmaker.Not much npc interactions, mostly dungeon crawling.
>>545392048sovlful player getting into roleplay. I'm not reading all that though
>>545394357Wow anons suddenly love Underrail
>>545394357how is he going to make romances an awful autistic drag for infusion?
>>545394779I thought we were supposed to hate all crpgs with romances?
>>545347895KOTOR, it was their explicit goal to take NWN but make the combat look better.
>>545394357Will Stygg be based add humiliation and cuckino or try to appeal to chudcels and give them muh tradwife bullshit
>>545361954It's been a while since there was a good star wars game. I'll give it a try
Is there unironically a crpg where you can be a young human twink and fuck stronger or older women
>>545395464yes but I won't tell you coomer freak
Abelard, why is my ship smaller than Winterscale's?
reddit screenshotdiscord confirmedreddit user posted
Is there any other place to talk about CRPGs?Reddit is cringe, Codex is dead. This place only talks about Owlcat/Larian/Bioware.
>>545396285Why don't you try and talk about other crpgs then? Nothing stops you from doing thatThere was an anon here recently who shared his journey through Shadowrun: Hong Kong, and another one has been asking about smaller/lesser known crpgs like Skald
I wouldn't share those places with a group that thinks cuckoldry is worth talking about or a good thing.
>>545394357>seething over 40 lines tops and 2 or 3 fades to black
>>545396645I can't wait
>>545396586But that gets ignored most of the timeSee >>545383173 and >>545379746
>>545396285maybe >>>/vr/ ?
r/owlcat just comes here for shitposting about cucking. its a really funny meme, but all the serious reddit trader discussion is saved for discord and reddit
>>545396285ResetEra meme
>>545396928This place tends to be pretty quiet at these hours, they might get more replies once the burgers wake upAt least I assume they're burgers, this place always gets tons of posts while I'm sleeping and I'm from Europe
>>545396928those are too weeb-adjacent for crpg boomers
>>545384901I did some research and decided on Skald and Dark Envoy sincee they were cheap on ENEBA and I had a 10EUR gift card Thank you for your input anonNew Arc Line looks amazing, but not much content in Early access only 15ish hours not counting replaying, otherwise would have bought that. Imo that game might shape up to be one of the top CRPGs.
>>545396285Surprised people haven't said RPGCodex yet. I personally don't use it, but I am pretty sure it has a few fans on here.
>>545397917You're welcome, mate. Have fun with the gamesAgreed on New Arc Line, assuming it doesn't get abandoned it looks like it could become something great
>>545394357>reading build guides to reach sufficient sex skills to be eligible for romances
>>545398102He already mentioned Codex in there. Also, Arueshalae's horns are positioned wrong. They're more towards her forehead rather than the sides of her head.
>>545371502
>>545398102Codex is a shithole. It's like reddit and its shitty and pretentious takes had a baby with 4chan and its racism and shitposting. Also they worship Sawyer.
>played JA3>played HK: SRI've decided next I'll finish my modded BG1 play, and then after that I'll finish my Pillars1 replay and try the TB beta after that.
I never watched the Warlockracy BG3 vid and at the end him spitballing all sorts of random situations of people given the creative freedom and capital and he says what if Gazprom gave Cleve 100 mil to develop Wizardry 9 and I nearly shit myself laughing.
>>545399337JA3 surprised me, I wasn't repelled by the zany and felt good to master and eventually do solo runs. Also feels like 100 years since there's been a game with the appropriate weapon verbiage because it wasn't made in no fun California or whatever that stupid law is where they have to call a MP5 a Deutsche 501
>>545399510that shit would be fire. too often people are sending good money after bad like saywer with 8+ middling games
>>545399783>I wasn't repelled by the zanyIt must have had some terrible promotional material because I had that expectation also, going into it, and I'm not sure why at all. It is less zany than most CRPGs, less than Wasteland 3 by a very large amount. There are humorous moments sure but for some reason I imagined pure yakety sax before playing, which is not at all the case.
>>545386857
playing THE ROLE of 'MAN' in mad island right now
>>545399337>>545399783>not 40kwhy the fuck would I care
/dhg/ when
>>545400778you only have 1 game to play
>>545339324Is there any interesting companion development on a heretic run in RT (aside from the extra companion)? I'm interested in doing one but I've heard at launch the content for it was extremely lacking, also the only companion with any heretic points to begin with is the insufferable jamaican psyker who I had killed ASAP previously
>>545402057well you get that sm companion at some point.. and he's happy. the death cult lady also has heretic ending I think
>>545402057> insufferable jamaican psyker who I had killed ASAP previouslyshit taste
>>545402476I always instakill astarion too btw
>>545402628In actual fact I haven't played BG3 but if you seriously like the fugly faux pirates of the carribbean negress I would probably kill whoever you like most in that game too
>>545402856I loooooove gale
>>545402057Why did you find her annoyingI almost uninstalled at her first sentence because she went "ya mon... dey heeeah!" like some kind of redditor but she never did it again, holdover from earlier scripts I imagine
How is the TTRPG mythic stuff compared to Owlcat's homebrew? Can you also do similar completely busted stuff
>>545402856Okay Kill Argenta and Cassia right NOW
>>545403350owlcrap videogames and tabletop gameplay aren't comparable, you aren't constrained to being a sliding circle on a flat plane with numbers attatched
Sleep lightly, taskmaster...
what are you playan now?
>>545398102How does it feel knowing that countless balors and vavakias rubbed their monster cocks on this beautiful face?
>>545406559dragon age 2 and wotr
>>545406559fe6 hard mode
>>545406559Staring up Dark Envoy. Thinking of going with a Warrior tank and Engineer technomancer for the starting characters.
>>545406559Finally finishing my BG1 first time with mods playthrough. Somewhere deep beneath Durlag's Tower.Just toggled Story Mode for some really obnoxious fucker, Ashikuru or something. They seem to sanctuary every 6s, so can only really be hit after backstabbing someone for triple damage. There were I think 3 down here, I took out 2, but we're in bad need of rest, and without any faerie fire/detect invisibility type spells on hand. After about 4 attempts, I just splattered the guy to move on.Being gone from the game so long I'll have to spend some time looking over the spell options. I like the shift Spell Revisions does to giving druids regen health over time spells, and I think we'll prepare a few more of those to save on potions.
>>545406559The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
>>545389108> no stat bloat like in wotr unfair.There is no bloat on unfair.The difficulty there is well-balanced for players who have already played the game and know its mechanics. Yes, it's not the best option for a first playthrough, but on a second one, you'll know perfectly well how to make adequate builds for characters, and there shouldn't be any problems.The difficulty selection in WOTR is a good example of HOW it should be done, because there's a difficulty for everyone, unlike in things like BG3, where there's no difficulty for experienced players and you have to come up with challenges yourself.
the virgin unfinished buggy paththe chad GOTD genre redefining
I'm struggling to think of DLCs that ultimately really add anything to games, especially RPGs. Usually the base game is complete enough and it's how the game is designed and meant to be played, then the devs release some DLCs that up the level limit and add a bunch of overpowered items, DLCs just seems to be welfare for developers.Here's some examples:>BG2, game was already long enough and didn't need ToB>FNV, hardly believable but DLCs are even more bad and cringe than the base game. Also I hate how on every startup you get a bunch of popups about the DLC. Like fuck off honestly Obsidian you are the shittiest developer ever with your goofy cringe garbage polluting the great lore created by Bethesda and Black IsleMorrowind - ok DLCs but nowhere near the base game quality>Cyberpunk 2077, Phantom Liberty is bad and cringe>FO4, mostly lame and pointless although Far Harbor was okayish>DXHR, an okay DLC but doesn't really add anything>Starfield's Shattered Space was kind of cool because it felt very different>Never played FO3 DLCs but I've only heard bad things about them especially Bethesda's infamous mothers hip zeta dlcSo are DLCs just welfare and ought to be skipped?
how come you guys never talk about kinos like>Weird West>underrail>aliens dark descent (I get it this is more of a xcom game)but why are you so obsessed with just owlcat games
>An Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus, Soldevan believes that knowledge is the key to safeguarding humanity. And where to seek this wisdom if not in the Warp itself. This pursuit of dark knowledge brought him to disturbing radical views that he's ready to share with the acolytes.
>>545379746> What's the first crpg you played?Fallout 1.Did not make it to the end, but it was a fun experience.
>>545409663We are all waiting for solasta 2
>>545409663>why aren't these games that I inorganically shill 24/7 not generating more genuine discussion
>>545407010Female Solas to the rescue
>>545409984thats even worst of an answer, but at least I can see why the next big 'cinematic thing' is hyped>>545410068You cant be serious about this anon, come on now
>>545410268I am, any interest I might have had in underrail was killed when that autist spammed his underrail meme like 50 times in a thread
>>545409663We are all waiting on secret of the weepstone.
>>545409432bg1 durags tower or whateverpoe white marchmass effect 1 dlcskingmaker varninghold dlcshivering isles oblivion had to press myself there but there are a few DLCs that improve on the games core elements. looking at this list they all seem to be gameplay focused on improving rather than some gay little side story - like a desire to make the best dungeon in the game
>>545409695BLACK!? Its over chudsisters
>>545409695is DH going for the ugliest companions since Veilguard award?
>>545408943Genuinely retarded post holy fuck. Imagine unironically defending Pathfinder's """""difficulty""""" settings.
>>545409663>Weird WestNot really into westerns, and I keep mixing it up with Blood WestHopefully the next western doesn't have "west" in the name>>545409695I like the eagles, having their heads protrude from the pauldron looks cool
>>545398551> Codex is a shitholeNah, it's based> Also they worship Sawyer.They hate him for being pozzed though
>>545411631Not a companion
A thing about Dark Envoy: Noticed that you can respec both atributes and class abilities/passtives at will. So you could tune your build on the go i you need single target stuff or aoe or specific debuffs/buffs per encounter.
>>545411935Pretty neat. Any limits to how often you can do it?
>>545411890go back
>>545411808I've never seen better difficulty setting in any CRPG whatsoever.Name just 1 CRPG game that is harder than WOTR, besides dungeon crawlers like F&H and multiplayer games
>>545409432>the great lore >created by Bethesda
>>545412184DOS1 Tactician since it actually changes the game. Heck, anything is better since the design is fucked. It only adds flat numbers on all enemies with 0 consideration on how it should be functioning. So you'll be fighting a starter enemy but it now has +8 on everything, making it nearly impossible unless your min/maxing because that's like half your current stats. This falls apart later on because by mid game, that +8 is near meaningless because that's only a fraction of what the median stats are.
>>545412731> DOS1 TacticianIt's easy as fuck even for solo run. Full party run is just easy breezy
Turn based patch is live Pillars bros
>>545412832That's neither here nor there, the point is that difficulties should change the game and how it works. Owlcat's design of adding flat stats is horrible. I think RT changed this to be more of a percentile one.
>>545412935I still have to finish DOS2 thoughSorry sawyer
>>545409432>FNV, hardly believable but DLCs are even more bad and cringe than the base game. Also I hate how on every startup you get a bunch of popups about the DLC. Like fuck off honestly Obsidian you are the shittiest developer ever with your goofy cringe garbage polluting the great lore created by Bethesda and Black Isle>Phantom Liberty is bad and cringe>Starfield's Shattered Space was kind of cool because it felt very differentHoly shit get some taste you absolute retard
>>545413062The difficulty in games should increase the difficulty of encounters. Period.Everything else is empty demagoguery. The only thing that matters is how demanding the game is in terms of mastering its mechanics.
>>545412935Now post her real portrait
>unironic new vegas defenderYour so valid sister!
>>545412935In case anyone wants to try the turn based beta, here are the instructions provided on the Steam forums>To opt in to this current update, use the Public Beta branch in Steam.>1. In your Steam Library Right click on Pillars of Eternity, and select "Properties">2. Select the "Beta" Tab, and click the Drop Down for labeled "NONE" - Select "public_beta">Close the Window, and you should have a download ready. Attempting to play the game should automatically trigger the download.>If you don't see the update, please restart your Steam client.
>>545413561NV is the best fallout game and better than anything trannythesda has ever shat out
>>545413668>NV is the best fallout gameThat honor belongs to 1,2 or tactics not that sawyer abomination.
>>545400387There's also a heavy bit of boomer millennial nostalgia goggles that seriously downplays the moments JA2 can be pretty damn goofy, see the bull dyke rattling off the parody tape titles, Madlab's robot, Hamous and the ice cream truck, the insert parody of Kathy Lee Gifford's sweatshop, the snobby rich people development, fucking not-Cleve Calvin Barkmore(broke every record there is), the fact how there was "sci fi mode" that adds the aliens because I think Sirtech was considering a sci fi xcom like addition with test audiences or some shit, etc etc. I love JA2 but people who got pissy over little goofball sidequests in JA 3 are ridiculous. Maybe would give a strike against the zombierona plot.
>>545413986>1,2 or tacticsYou played none of those
>>545409695>>545411631I recognize this nigger!
>>545412072As far as I see no.You can freely reset. Unless this is for early game only and changes later.
Get DOGGED you piece of shit.
>>545414135ive played all of them multiple times when i was younger and even kinda recently got fallout 2 on steam and did a quick replay and it was just as good as i remember, nice projection.
there is a positive correlation between the amount of sex an npc offers and them surviving an anon's playthrough
>>545398551>>545398102>>545411890Remember that Codex is the only SFW site to review Sengoku Rance
So what was the best crpg that came out this year?
>>545414938Counterpoint.
>>545414608Damn, seems pretty good then>>545414938But Cam always dies despite offering sex right at the start of her actual content thougheverbeit?
>>545415168This year, exactly ZERO good CRPGs came out. Alas.
>fallout new vegas is the best fallout
>>5454033501e? Hella lame, it's basically an aditional class that you have. Like, you have the "Warrior path" the "Wizard" path and so on, it's just big numbers with one or two funny attached, since on Paizo canon, Mythic is just Iomedae blessing you2e is more in line with Owlcat, you can "ascend" to certain aspects and so you, so you can be a pseudo devil making contracts with people or a busted dude with a planetary sized sword. The lore reason is even more aligned with Owlcat, since in canon, Gorum died and people bathed on his blood for days, leading some people to become demigods
>>545397917>decided on Skaldsorry to hear that<enebano refunds
Is videogame addiction a real thing?And how would you know if something became an addiction? Any metric? Maybe if it negatively impacts other aspects of your life?
>>545402057only know at launch, and it was trash then>killed ASAPso, after 10h of play? in the third chapter (act 2 not counting the prologue)?
https://eternity.obsidian.net/eternity/news/turn-based-mode-public-beta-is-live>Turn-Based Mode Public Beta is Live!>Hello Watchers,>The wait is over — the Turn-Based Mode Public Beta for the original Pillars of Eternity is now live on Steam and Xbox PC.>This new feature lets you experience Pillars in a whole new way, with combat fully reimagined around turn-based pacing and flexibility. If you enjoyed experimenting with the system in Deadfire, we hope you’ll find this version both familiar and improved — and we can’t wait to hear what you think.>As a reminder:>This is a public beta, so please expect bugs.>The beta will run for some time as we continue to incrementally update it in preparation for a full release.>We’ll be collecting your reports, issues, and suggestions throughout the beta and doing our best to integrate that feedback into the final version.>To opt in to this current update, use the Public Beta branch in Steam.>In your Steam Library Right click on Pillars of Eternity, and select "Properties"Select the "Beta" Tab, and click the Drop Down for labeled "NONE" - Select "public_beta"
>>545415782> Is videogame addiction a real thing?Yes> And how would you know if something became an addiction?If you waste more than 14 hours per week on games.
>>545416150>14 hours per week>Posts some groyper whoreL M A O
>>545416150Doesn't that autist also know how to play a real guitar?
>>545415920I bounced off pillars the first time so looking forward to actually enjoying the combat now
>>545408943>The difficulty there is well-balanced for players who have already played the game and know its mechanicsthe only difficulty in the game is from being unprepared, though? you're just doing menial routine if you know what you'll fight. it's speedrunning type shit
>>545416309> >14 hours per weekLet me guess, you need MORE and you don't see any problems with that, right?
>the GOD of rpgs Sawyer isnt credited at all on outer worlds 2>it flops so hard it has half the numbers of bloodlines 2How much longer until the suits realize they need to give him absolute draconian control of Obsidian to do whatever he wants if they want to start making non-shitty games that dont flop again?
>>545416150That's 2 hours a day, how is that bad?
>replying to tweets with more tweetsAre we being raided?
>>545412935>update for 10 yo gamewtf
>Genuinely hilarious
>>545413587>selecting Betanice try Sawyer
>>545416667Very niceLet's see Pentiment's numbers
gtfo this thread if you aren't addicted to video games n*rmoid parasites
>>545409432DA:A is basically a sequel and it improved a lot gameplay wiseME2 Lair of the Shadow Broker revealed lots of neat details of the lore, had a cool boss fight, and a few funny curios, knowing Grunt was pissed that there were no Krogan porn on the net made me chuckle a bitWitcher 3 DLCs are basically mandatory, and they are fun afThere is more examples, but I felt lazy. It really a "depends">>545412184Tyranny if you are not a frontline martial. Since the game has only ONE companion to act as your tank and he only joins halfway in (IF you convince him)
But I am and I want to quit.
>>545416667> >the GOD of rpgs SawyerHis games are deeply flawed and because of that they are mid at best.> >it flops so hard it has half the numbers of bloodlines 2First of all, it's in Game Pass, so most likely the same level of failure there.Second, his Pentiment failed just as badly.> absolute draconian control of ObsidianIt's impossible in the current realities for Obsidian.They'll have to rebuild the entire studio from scratch because they've already hired soi liberals, woke activists, and other snowflake trash. Such people simply won't work under normal leadership.
obshitian made dogshit for decades and burnt bridges. whined the publishers were holding them back. scammed on kickstarter and released shitty bg knock offs. josh is back to his old tricks about the 'money' instead of publishers this time. what's holding back the projects is excuse man and not a $300 million blank check and " the suits".
Looked it up quickly and it does seem that the loot in Dark Envoy is diablo style RNG. But crafting and enchanting mitigates this since it reduces the problem. Also so far there weren't much dialogue options apart from 2 major choices (fight bandits vs strike a deal and destroy or salvage archive, the main characters were talking to each other and NPCs on their own.
>>5454167792 hours per day is more than enough for gaming.If you waste more time then you are not doing something actually useful like workout or making money>>545416828It is automated by script and i won't be turning it off. Just to make you seethe.
>>545417206>webmWhat does that expression convey?
>>545409663We try, but people don't engage it always, and older games are mostly ignored since everyone already talked about it for ages. I was posting my DAO into DAA campaign here, but barely got any traction, still, it was fun, specially for someone who only experienced Nu-BiowareMy grip with most crpgs is that they are..boring, or lack anything engage or they run on a more retarded version of DND, I like when they are flashy, feel "fresh" or have a few sub systems going, presentation also helps, couldn't give a damm about Tyranny and Pillars, but Neverwinter always left me hyped due to how cool everything looked, even if is a old ass game
>>545417496Faggotory
>>545357469More of a general beef with the game than with Jimi specifically, but he doesn't bust your balls enough for being retarded. It's all fucking smooth sailing until he arbitrary leaves you in act 4 but not a second earlier. Didn't even mind me replacing his precious regicide board with a ritualistic pile of skulls
"The suits" are a legitimate boogie man, 90% of the production mess/studio switching that caused bloodlines 2 to be bloodlines 2 was caused by them fucking changing their mind every 5 seconds.
>>545416150Shit I kinda agree and see where the person is coming from to an extent. Obviously if you make money playing games and keep the show going, great easy free money is nothing to slouch at, but I do get time sinks to a point of doing something more constructive. I autistically just took to learning languages instead of being janny supreme in lore circles for various properties and I do feel a little more enriched considering it was the same amount of time reading and looking shit up editing pages about which elf got blown in one of the planar realms. Personally where I think gaming has been cursed full steam ahead in past 10-15 years or so has been how everything is trying to be a casino overmonetized hell, everything needs to be overanalyzed by some clout demon and some huge production to stroke streamer ego and their perverse relation as marketing vessels.
>>545417454>American right wing propaganda>Posted by russiansYou can't make this shit up
>>545414147UncleRuckus..>>545414696Doing this with bosses will never not be funny, reminded me of me discovering about barrel exploits in DOS2
>>545417732Based and true
>>545417454>not doing something actually useful like workout or making moneyGood goyim cattle
>>545398102is this slop?
>>545409695Oh hey, I remember this guy from a campaign we've been running. Very cool.
>>545416618>>545417454Just people have fun ffs. If they are no basement dwellers in their mum's house, them they are fine
>>545416618Yes I do, 14 hours is literally nothingNo I won't stop playing vidya to go out and le save western civilizationCry about it poltroon
>>545409695This guy is described as handsome. Where's the handsome?
Have they shown us the Ordo Malleus guy yet? I want to know my future faction head looks like.
>excercise is jewish propagandayou trannies are hopeless
>>545418263Crackheads are having fun too, yet they are deeply sick Fun is not always good. Like learning in school should not be fun etc.
>>545415223>>545415227the few that do save her are romancing her though?
So this is his new thing now? Did seething about Larian or Owlcat or NTR get boring?
>>545418690I assume so. Doesn't change the fact that she tends to die early on though
>quit having fun, you need to work to (((better yourself))) instead
>>545409663>kinos like... underrail? it's because very few people like that game.so they instead talk about games they like
>>545418517It is though. Your body's "build" is predetermined by your genetics. No amount of lifting is going to make you buff if you wouldn't be buff regardless. Why do you think gyms make billions of dollars?Also, your body has a finite amount of energy it can expend in its lifetime which is once again determined by your genetics. Exercise literally saps your life expectancy. Do you truly think it's a coincidence that globalists want to reduce the human population but also shill gyms in every form of media?
>>545418894Most people who actually like CRPG genre do like Underrail because it's one of the best modern CRPGs on par with WOTR
>>545407010When will this soulless UI trend end?
what kind of new age fat people cope is this?lmao
is this blobber a crpg
>>545417915>russiandon't you have a country to invade Boris?
>>545419202It's JRPG
>>545419202No, it is kino though. Is that Refrain or the second one?
>>545418894I love underrail, but I tapped out 2 years ago. Psi+Pistol forever.Waiting for Infusion.
>>545419202Its a etrian style dungeon crawler with less build autism.
>>545419292i haven't played either. i thought about etrian iv but i don't have a 3ds>>545419286it's refrain. isn't the second a sequel?
I shouldn't be surprised that crpg lovers are obese desu. Just didn't expect the weird mental gymnastics against being healthy and fit.
>>545419525Yeah
>>545418529Anon, there is a difference between an employed dude playing vidya on his free time and a homeless dude smoking pipe on your doorstep.Besides, videogame addicts are harmless.>Learning should not be funIQlet behaviour desu, I felt quite amazed while learning college-level chemistry and when I was starting to get my hands on programming, if you understand where you can apply that sort of stuff and why it's useful, you will appreciate it. Otherwise, said knowledge was useless for you and you wouldn't be able to use it anyhow
>>545418529Learning programming in university was the most fun I have had in my life.What the fuck have you been doing with your life?
>>545418938>Exercise saps your energyStop buying internet guru propaganda, while of course you won't be a hyperbuff guy if your genetics are trash, exercising helps you a lot and will make your life expectancy higher, just look at the bunch of grannies and gramps that are trying nowadays>>545418836The schizo is probably aching that we are having fun, so they are now posting literally who womins that don't respect their partner hobbies as a way to try to bother us
Russian people only have fun when drinking tons of alcohol, once you factor this in alot of russian schizos post make sense.
>>545419767He's probably someone who peaked at highschool , traditional learning isn't for him, it's alright
>>545419767You must be actually insane, autistic or both
>>545420195>Enjoying learning new things, developing skills and growing means you are autistic or insane.I think I see why the world is doomed.
>>545418938This is retarded basedboy bullshit. It does not reduce your life expectancy unless you take roids and other harmful shit to cheat getting buff. Look at Stallone, Arnold etc. who have been working out their entire lives, they are 80 but move and live lie they are in their 20s.If anything is globalist propaganda it's what you have written now.
why does he keep posting forum and twitter screenshots
>>545420195nta but university and grad school was amazing. learning and doing awesome things at the peak of human ability. meanwhile work is mostly just grinding. math not programming in my case.>>545420376two stdev of iq difference looks like insane behavior - in both ways.
I saw a mudcrab the other day
Hey, bros, what about them crpgs, huh?
I was told this game would get easy after fort joy what the fuck is this
>>545421076Same here, loved my time at college, hate my work because it degenerate to the most streamlined, souless denominator. Makes me feel a retarded for not fishing for a master's and becoming a researcher
>>545419660> employed dude> his free timeIf an employed young man adequately spends his free time, he won't have more than 2 hours a day for computer games.He needs to do workouts and keep his body in shape, he needs to study sciences and develop his intellect, he needs to spend time with his wife and children.There's no more than 2 hours left for games.
>>545421615I put a belt on and it made me a woman
who else is high af right now? also the gameplay has massivley imporved from outer worlds 1 and is really fun now but i dont like the whole dialog system telling you that your missing info in a conversation it feels really hand holdy. also the propaganda loading screen art is really cool.
>>545419660>>545419767I was talking about the gamification of learning, which is degenerative.
>>545419095what a cope. you made that up in your head, it's a fantasy. here's a non-fantasy: not even 1% of people who play crpgs have played underrail. let alone like it specifically because it's "on par with wotr"
>>545421667Just throw barrels at him anon!
>>545422146Why do pseudo-intellectual posturing asses try so hard online?
>>545420124Atom RPGThey are not Russian, though. They are Ukrainians and have been involved in scandals twice here in Russia.The first time when they used the BSB flag to denote Russia, which is the flag of the Russian liberal opposition, and the second time when they added the so-called by some "Ukrainian language".
>>545421708being a researcher is not the glamor you think. it's nearly all soulless paperwork and routine, and if you are lucky then once in 10 years you'll spend a single semester on research.don't regret it.
>>545421887Stop repeating coach babble anon. I go to the gym when I come home from work, I study on free days or during vacant work hours. No young men should aim for a wife, let alone kids, they will bleed your finances dry. That leaves me plenty of time play vidya and go drink with my lads
Oh christ the Russian schizo is back
Never liked college much cause I always felt that shit was going nowhere with shit classes that had nothing to do with the business I wanted. Starting a masters next year anyways
should i post about lalybrinth of refrain on here anons?
>>545422605Oh, I know that there will be a lot of boring paper shuffling and going through some esoteric searchs so you can find some theory basis for your research, experienced that a bit when I was doing some "junior" projects in my college, doing the experiments and comparing things was tiresome, but fun. Researching papers was hell.Still liked a ton though, twas why I regret it a bit
>>545422676> No young men should aim for a wife, let alone kidsA huge crooked nose sticks out from your post. Why so?
>>545422993Is it a crpg?>yesGo for it>noDon't go for it
>>545422993I'd love to see someone's reactions playing through it since the game's story has crazy turns but this is not the place for that.
dude weed lmfao
>>545422993Sure, why not, we don't have alive jrpg dicussions anywhow, and the dungeon crawling aspect makes it look like more akin to a wrpg than a jrpg
The epstein drive didn't build itself
>>545423274Why the fuck is he talking about weed?
Friendly reminder than not-crpgs should not be discussed in a crpg general. Same goes for thinly veiled /pol/ bait. Both are off-topic and off-topic posting is against the rules
>>545423778Really trying to force a controversy
>>545423986Shitspants could use a bit of controversy since nobody gives a shit about the game otherwise
In WotR, spell specialisation can only ever affect one spell, right? Why is it then, that when I selected it as a feat, I got to make two choices back to back? Was it just an unfortunate timing and I was going to get spell specialisation at that particular level? Or does it mean I can keep designating more specialised spells?Also, is there a way to check which spell I specialise in?
>>545424291BUG: This is current broken. When picking this feet & spell, it opens creates a 2nd tab during leveling "Spell Specialization" which breaks the feet. This "Spell specialization" tab will reappear at every single level up, but does nothing. 09/27/2025Bug 2: You can't pick spells that you get at the level you get the feat. Example, if you take the feat at level 3, you can't pick 2nd level spells. 09/27/2025
>>545423853Space communism
>>545423008you can always go back if you regret it. personally, if i were to go to school again, i'd go into medicine. even though it's braindead and the work is beyond awful, the lifestyle perks are good.>>545423485is a blobber not a crpg just because it's from japan?
>>545424291I don’t know how it works in wotr but you’re supposed to be able to switch the spell you specialize in every level
>>545424452It's fascinating how actual real life communism has nothing to do with what americans think commism is.
I hate stat allocating in pillars, everything is relevant and important so I have to gimp myself no matter what
It's not enough that 80% f discourse here is Owlcat-Larian circlejerking, now you faggots have to talk about life philosophy and /pol/shit. Shut the fuck up this isn't your personal discord. Talk about this on the relevant board or with your shrink. Reminder to everyone else that the report function exists.
>>545424825that wasn't communism anon
>>545424960This is why generals are shit and always will be. Schizos and lonely freaks linger here cause they have no where else to go.
Dude what if pillars 3 but weed?
>>545425218>lonely freaks linger here cause they have no where else to go.I pretty much have no life outside of a few friends I ocasionally hang out with and hang around in a few generals a lot, yet I never spam about politics and off-topic shit. I don't understand these people why can't they just go to a board about the topic they wanna talk about.
>>545425218I was hoping people would be talking about how the poe1 update turned out but that would actually be relevant
>>545424414Fuck me, you'd think it would've been fixed after all those years
Why doesnt owlcat just put there entire team on one game at a time so they turn out good and not buggy?
>>545425460They think this place is their discord. Blame newfags.It kinda derails the little convo we have, we should ignore those shitters.
>>545425494I like pillars but I have no interest in them trying to force the system into turn based to please people who probably still aren't going to play the game.
>>545425630No need. Retards will buy their games anyway, so there's no point in putting in an effort
>>545425630>one hundred monkeys on typewriters>vs>two hundred monkeys on typewritersi don't think it would turn out the way you hope
Why doesn't every rpg have a lone wolf system like DOS2 or at least exp divided by party size? Why should I be penalized if I don't fill the party with companions I dislike?
>>545425630Its crazy to think that Owlcats team is almost as big as larians, am I saying they have to make some huge baldurs gate 3 style game? No, but its crazy how all there games turn out so buggy and unfinished.
More dev make game more gooder??
>>545425751that's fair desu and I might agree but I'm still supportive of any attempt to generate more attention on non-BG3 CRPGs
>>545426028Larian are confident enough to do their own stuff without constantly looking back at other studios. Owlscat are desperately trying to become another bioware and to beomce "one of the guys" by scoring good boy points on social media and among the industry titans. It's why their marketing and social media engagement are so tryhard and feel unnatural. Their marketing reeks of "How do you do fellow, gamers". I have zero respect for them as developers even though I like their games
>>545426187they'll just conclude crpgs are all bad except bg3.
I still don't get why Owlcat picked their most high budget game to be Expanse. It's not a popular setting, it caused little buzz. Seems too much of a risk for your highest budget product. For Larian BG3 was their biggest money sink and they made sure it was a safe bet since : DnD is popular and BG is a famous vidya series. Owlcat worked things out with GW already, they should have made an agreement to do a high production quality Warhammer Fantasy RPG instead. Or hell even a third 40K game. Whatever, just not something as meh as Expanse. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they messed up.
>>545426457Can you blame them? They're trying to break into being a mainstream developer and that's the quickest way to do it
Owlcats orginal IP should be a wheel of time rip off, I think that would be their comfort zone. Russians like post-apocalyptic games, medieval fantasy,4th dimensional sci-fi stuff, and stuff that talks about "what makes a soul" and the future of humanity.
>>545426648Who the fuck cares about the business model of Owlcat or Larian or whatever studio? Are you personally invested in their success or failure? You should only care about good rpgs, regardless of studios.
>>545425494I’m trying it out now and it’s well done, better than Deadfire. I hope the improvements are ported over to Deadfire too
>>545426679>that's the quickest way to do itNo the quickest way (and most dangerous way) was to make there own huge orhinal IP game after they built up a cult fanbase with the first two pathfinder games and market the hell out of it and have your cult proslitize it non-stop.
>>545427009They’re mad because owlcat aren’t creating more dating sims for them anymore in shitty pathfinder. I’m glad that pathfinder is DEAD.
>>545427018they'd be insane not to, perfect time to ride the wave of post-BG3 depression + any one that got interested by Avowed
>>545426648They could literally pick any sci-fi series and it would have caused a bigger stirr, SG and Star Treak would be safe pics, and Battlestar Galatic would awaken all the sleeper agents that were longing for a good BSG rpg for yearsGamers don't care about Expanse, and the people who liked the Expanse, don't care about games. Just why? It feels like another star field situation where it's a huge scam to evade taxes
>>545427190As one of the few Avowedfags I’m more interested in this final update they have planned. I am happy that Pillars has had a good year however and doesn’t seem to be abandoned anymore.
>>545388941No, femcel inquisitors of the order xenos are allowed to have a xenobf
>>545427170Pathfinder is a based af system with amazing APs though. It's the only system where Iiked premade campaigns Blood Lords would make up an amazing game.The only prebuilt system that would top it, would be something akin to a 4e hack
>>545427337would you say Avowed is worth playing after PoE1+2? Am planning on completing the series but still unsure on how Avowed ended up
>>545426679>Can you blame them?Yes. They have a good thing going for them, so instead of capitalizing on it they are being cringe by posting outdated memes and chasing bg3 success. No one has ever achieved greatness by trying to copy others
>>545426028it's because their fundamentals are all wrong. think of it like owlcat is using mspaint. i don't know what larian uses but owlcat definitely is manually clicking and editing dialogues in the unity editor like some >>>/vg/agdg/ hobbyist. and they're locked into it now.
Is it a good time to start playing PoE?Did they finally add controller controls so i can play it comfortably on my steam deck like bg3
>>545426870Russians don't like the wheel of time. If you're looking for a fantasy setting to copy that russians like then look no farther than the chronicles of amber or the witcher
why do clueless 4chan fags love to speak about game development as if they even coded a single hello world in their livesalso lol @ the idea Larian games are not full of bugs
games are a waste of time
>>545427543Yes. If you like the world and life of Eora, it adds to the lore of the world in a subtle way. It also sets up some potential ramifications for the future. It has great gameplay, especially as a wizard and lots of reactivity in quest choices. I stumbled on an area that wasn’t marked, wasn’t a quest and cleared it out of enemies. It then turned out I affected one of the endings massively by preventing something from happening which I enjoyed. It’s a very here’s your world, explore and do what you want. People keep erroneously comparing it to TES but it’s more like Mass Effect.
>>545427924Wasting time is fun.
>>545426648>I still don't get why Owlcat picked their most high budget game to be Expanse.Beggars can't be choosers. They are working with whatever they were given the rights to. And the literally who setting was all they could get. I wonder if they tried Babylon 5 - it was very popular in russia in the 90s
>>545427985awesome thanks, I'm sold. Don't mind if it's not too replayable either as long as it's a fun ride.
>>545427851Why tho? Wheel is slavcore to the max
no crpg will be remembered a hundred years from now like the works of Tolstoy or Dostoevsky
>>545428201Fallout
>>545428337hahahahawait, you're serious?HAHAHAHA
>>545428104There are multiple endings, multiple gameplay styles and they’re releasing an update soon with NG+ so there is replayability if you want. They’re also releasing new weapon types which will be good. Its likely going to be released in the next few weeks so wait until that’s out before you play it.
>>545427924then why are you here
>>545428201Solasta
Wizard worm has the funniest accent out of all the CRPG youtubershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN90BaKkf5M&list=PL73y0fZQTK3Bo7D9PZTSLm9DhErbw1R6N&index=3Do you anons know anyone that sounds wackier that this?
>>545428525BUY AN AD
>>545427370I'm gonna sexually harrass all the young acolytes
>>545428429I'll have plenty of time to wait going through the series so that's something to look forward to. Much appreciated
>>545428525Werglia has him beat
>>545428525He sounds like a mad scientist kek
>>545428063>Beggars can't be choosers.Owlcat has like 400-500 employees now, they can no longer hide behind the "but we're a small indie studio!!!" excuse
People forget that Owlcat is still a low budget studio.
In WotR, do mythic quests like "A spring run dry" advance the timer on other quests like those of your companions? Game has almost given me an unpleasant surprise with timed quests
>>545426648Why do games need an established property to be good? Mass effect didn't exist before mass effect so it was a colossal failure right? Just make a game people want to play and people will play it.
>>545428835>Owlcat has like 400-500 employees nowCool, and they're still small time compared to the likes of bioware, obsidian or larian. It's not about the number of emplyees, but how well you're known
>>545428412Fallout is so culturally impacting Amazon is spending more on it than lord of the rings.
>>545428921It's not about being good, it's about audience appeal. If BG3 was some meh IP no one cared about they wouldn't get half the numbers, just previous DOS fans and some more people would get it. It would sell better than DOS2, but it couldn't reach the numbers the real BG3 did without DND+BG IP
>>545428957>but how well you're knownAlso reputation, and owlshart's reputation is pretty bad and they're doing nothing to fix it
>>545428525what is that accent?
>>545428957Owlcat is more well renowned than bioware post veilguard. Fuck even post andromeda bioware was effectively a shell just being kept open to finish out dragonage. They are no longer the big name they were as they lost all clout on debacle after debacle under EA.
>>545429014a single episode of Friend or Seinfeld from 20 years ago is more culturally relevant than your shitty Fallout show sorry kid
>>545429169they could try zooming in the camera
Instead of "the gods are fake and made up twist" what about the gods are "actually ascended 4th dimensional humans twist"?
>>545428607I hope they let the female portraits look like this
>>545428879Nyo, I think only main quests advance time? The demon mythic quest from act 3 will skip a few days tho
What is the bg3 of crpgs? This question might sound weird because you might think bg3 is a crpg, but it exists in its own category, so what's the closest to bg3 outside of bg3?
>>545429565Solasta larian even was a huge backer to the Kickstarter.
>>545429078Most people who played it didn't even know baldur's gate. The hype was studio appeal and word of mouth from the substantial early access development.
>>545429276haha no way dude.bioware may be a has-been, but owlcat is a never-has-been.bioware at least has brand recognition to boomers, they had multiple industry-defining breakout hits. releasing a game as owlcat isn't much better than releasing it as any other minor indie studio.
>>545429663yeah dungeons and dragons and baldur's gate were very obscure names until Larian of divinity original sin fame brought them back into the spotlight
>>545429565I have no idea what you could even mean, bg3 is the bg3 of crpgs because it was the big blockbuster that managed to break into the mainstream and get casual audiences paying attention to crpgs/dnd. The closest thing to what you're asking for is DOS2, which is just proto-bg3
>>545429276>Owlcat is more well renowned than bioware post veilguard
who the fuck cares about bioware post andromeda and veilguard
>avowed has 8000 positive reviews on steam>rogue trader has 30000 positive reviews on steamwhere did obsidian go wrong
>>545429465I don't see why they wouldn't. RT had several femcel portraits that looked similar
>>545430037crpgs are not restaurantstry playing them and forming your own opinion instead of checking yelp for the rating
>>545430037Decided to stop making crpgs
>>545429404Those are basicly the same twist
>>545429862>needing to move the goalpost by including dungeons and dragons.>pretending the massive normiecore bearsex audience even heard of baldur's gate prior to the bg3 trailerConcession accepted>>545429937It's just a fact, sorry not sorry bioware is a laughingstock now.
surprisingy, dragon age veilguard has about the same number of positive reviews as rogue trader (both at 30k). so around the same number of people liked both games.
>>545430584Honestly I put it on hardest diff beat some boss that was like multiple headed snake or something and quit right there cause I was not having fun with the higher diff scaling but game seemed alright I could play it some other time
>>545379746ToEE. But I hacked it with ArtMoney to get 9999999 gold.
>>545430584it's a fine enough action-RPG, ofc this board will have problems with its politics but it's harmless enough and the combat can be fun.
>>545430584Somehow I don't believe you. It's talked about with quotation marks around here and even in "friendlier" spaces and some videos I've heard mentioning it don't regard it highly. One just offhandedly references it for its apparently simplistic puzzles.
>>545430584I can't even look at the game without feeling ill. It's like they settled in the uncanny valley and had no solid artstyle to climb out with.
>>545430887raping the lore is not "harmless enough""the combat can be fun" is a backhanded compliment
>>545430547yeah dude 99% of bg3 players had never heard of dungeons and dragons before, they bought the game because of word of mouth and streamers were hyping it
>>545431081after 10 years of waiting, your insane if you expected any kind of lore continuity. The fact that I was able to enjoy anything about it is a miracle. The trick is you're supposed to go in with the expectation that dragon age was dead and that this was the funeral.
>>545431236>doubled down on shifting the goalpost because he knows his position was weakYou could just not reply and save yourself the embarassment.
>>545430547did you get fired from bioware, kek.obviously they are still a much bigger name. their last game was the worst one they ever made and it still outsold anything owlslop has ever made by a heavy margin. >>545430930you can just check the steam game pages, anon. you don't need to believe me. veilguard has 29,129 positive reviews as of this post, while rogue trader has 31,776. So it's a difference of 5%. >>545430981same here, it's just not for me. bisexual colors, ugly people one the cover, there's plenty of other games out there.>>545431236this guy gets it. it might not quite be 99% (not sure how you'd even get a number) but it's a sizeable chunk just looking at the demographics.
>>545425630Cause Writers, artists and modelers can work on shit before bugfixers?
>>545431470you're one stupid fuck, you know that?
>>545430584Sure, people like Froggy like it.
>>545431808Says the retard relying on moving goalposts
>>545430584I've seen a lot of new players to DA like it unfortunately.
>>545431081The lore wasnt raped, it was just revealed really badly and poorly. All the theories and plot points were predicted by fans since the beginning and they were right. Veilguard just reveals everything at once in such a dull, anticlimactic way. There’s no shock or suspense it’s just, “yeah here’s the elves and they did everything. Let’s get this over with”
>>545432061what's unfortunate about it? DA is already dead so it's good for more people to discover the series no matter how that is, it's not like we can expect a sequel
>>545432138>yeah here’s the elves and they did everything.that would be fine if it didn't recontextualize the events and actions of characters in the previous games
>>545432138>ghost jannies made him do it is good lore
>>545432383That they started with the worst entry that killed the series forever and think its good?
>>545339324Seattle is really nice to just walk around and take in the atmosphere. It's a pity the game tries to funnel you onto the rooftops so much, I think most people are missing the map. I'd love to take Safia for a walk and admire the Christmas lights, feed on a sanguine woman in an alley together, and just talk about thaumaturgy and her interests. The game could really use a companion system. It would also be nice if we could spend more time with Safia in the coffee shop and just talk about her books.
>>545432565so then it's only uphill from there, and if they dislike origins or 2 than they were never gonna like the series anyway
Not a crpg. Kill yourself, tranny
>>545432569Out of all the cute girls to become a characterfag for, why Safia? You know she doesn't love you right?
>>545432569IT WAS YOU MINTHARAFAG. Ugh you are pathetic. Safia isn't a romance option and I can't wait for you to get Shadowhearted again.
>>545432416That’s down to bad writing which is a separate and legitimate issue Veilguard has.
>safiaWE are all romancing the black chick in bloodlines 2.
>>545432718also it was a troubled, 10-year development cycle that killed the franchise. There was very little that could've been done at that point considering it was a completely new team
>>545432792Lasombra girls best girls
>>545432792>ayo this white kindred kinda cute
>>545432718Origins and 2 might be too edgy for them, even DAI
Which vtmb clan should I pick if I'm twisted with a sick sense of humor
>>545432792what are the choices?
>>545432792> Vampire> RomanceHuh?????Aren't vampires supposed to lack interest in this, and isn't that exactly why everyone in the first game thought Jeanette was weird?
>>545433010honestly DAI is a pretty good starting point too, it was my first DA as well. Outside of maybe Champions of the Just (Templar quest) and Here Lies the Abyss (Fade) it was pretty tame
>>545433237a ugly dude, a gay biker, a tranny, black lady, and a old woman
>>545433302>Outside of maybe Champions of the Just (Templar quest) and Here Lies the Abyss (Fade) it was pretty tameWhat's edgy about them? dai is utterly sanitized
>>545433274vtmb2 has """""""""""""""romance""""""""""""""" the same way a gas station has """""""""""""""food"""""""""""""""
>>545433302I don't know Blackwall telling me how he killed children might scare the Veilguard feel good crowd
>>545433415I'm taking "edgy" as relative to Inquisition, which is an incredibly un-edgy game compared to the first two. But the fact that those two are more psychological and have wacky Fade shenanigans is the only remotely unsettling thing that game has to offer
>>545433302> DAI is a pretty good> it was my first DA
>>545433342post the men. Are they cute?
DAI also hate the racist French ball. Veilguard had ZERO racism.
>>5454336522014 was over a decade ago anon, the war is over
>>545433456gas stations have milk and eggs. you just can't buy the family size jumbo shit there.
>>545433517ah that's true, in retrospect I like the risk they took with Blackwall. Making you think he's this stoic callback to the first game's wardens when he's just a cowardly criminal opportunist looking for redemption.
>>545433738no lol. theres another dude. the blonde is a tranny before you waifufags get excited. and the "romances" barely exist.
>>545434102>the blonde is a trannyholy based
>>545433237Safia is a bookish Tremere girl who you can embarrass and fluster with flirt options. There is Patience, a Toreador west coast artistic type, my second favorite. Onda is a relatively young Lasombra woman. Those are all I've found so far.
>>545434243you are truly pathetic mintharafag, at least anons will finally know how autistic you are.
>>545432569My issue is that the streets all look the same to me. Nothing really stands out and it’s a bland city, but that’s what every American city is like.
>>545434102nonbinary =/= trans
>he doesn't know shes in love with another man
>>545434243it is definitely weird that you don't mention looks
I'm playing divinity 2 after bg3 and I have to say, Larian stands out in being able to make very good thempark maps, as in, the maps are actually very small when you think about it, but they still give you the feeling of an interesting open world because of how they are layered. No space is wasted, it's all crammed there
>>545434589akshually it is, trans just means identifying differently than the gender you were born as. This is a game about vampires btw
>>545434589Nonbinary is trans, I have argued this before. Trash from Veilguard is called a tranny and she's non-binary.
>>545434226She is not trans, that's just anons trolling. She has short hair, which is a perfectly fine style for women and suits her well, and especially fits her character. She's exactly the sort of west coast artist you'd expect to meet in Seattle. You can tell she's new to this and is a little intimidated, and you can help her out with her art sculptures. Of particular note is that if you flirt with her too early she will gently let you down, indicating she has some character and is a little more choosy about who she spends time with, you can't just be with her without earning it. I do wish we could take romance characters with us on adventures to get to know them better and share the city with them, but maybe that will be added in a future patch. There is a support roadmap meant to arrive soon.
>>545434102Yikes. Not like I was gonna play it anyway since it's not a crpg, and I no longer do husbandofaggotry
>>545434792sir this is an owlcat general. you simply are not allowed to like larian games here
>>545434852Vampires are transhumans.
>>545434792verticality is what really sets their encounter design and exploration apart imo, more games need to steal that and the physics interactions with the environment
>>545434589Oh, right, sorry, i'm not a liquid shit connosseur to tell them apart
>>545434885bigot, her pronouns are they/them
>>545434972>get bitten by vampire>don't get any powers, just become trans
>>545435126Vergil?
>shit game>has some mediocre "waifus"All it takes
>>545435372hey it works, I genuinely think obsidian's refusal to add romances for the obsessives is why they're failing
>>545435541But Pillars 2 had romance and that bombed
>>545385495But that's the best part?
>>545435659my understanding is that they're begrudgingly written and not very flattering. People want to fall in love with their pixel waifus and have them fawn over them and PoE 2's romances are a little too based in reality
>>545409695>As a member of the Tyrantine Cabal, he routinely opposes Inquisitor Vownus Kaede, an other witch hunter that persists saving Psykers from him and his pogroms. The fact that Rykehuss is totally deprived of any known psychic power, despises them, while Kaede is an Alpha Plus psyker himself, does not help in their tumultuous coexistence.I hope these two make it into the game
>>545435659you have 2 seconds to name a single deadfire waifu
>>545435914I got bad news for fags who think vtmb2 has better romances than Pillars 2>>545436039Xoti, Maia, Aloth, & homosexual shark
>>545435949>Vownus Kaede>His true origins are unknown, and his name itself is derived from Catuldynus’s epic verse allegory The Once-Pure Hive. Originally in the employ of a Rogue Trader, the story of his rise through the Inquisition is hazy and unclear. He was, however, originally a member of the Ordo Xenos before finding his true calling as a Witch Hunter.Hello, Jimmy, there was no point in changing your name
My favorite vampfu? Pisha, of course. You fakers have probably never heard of her.
Babe, wake up, Starfinder CRPG is cominghttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epictellers/starfinder-afterlight
>>545436794guess they blew the budget on the flashy animations and art cuz they gameplay looks so much worse than the rest of the presentation. Still keeping an eye on it
>>545436794we are cracking the rat
I have no ranks in trickery why can I still open locked chests in drezen
>>545436794fingers crossed for space romances
>>545436310based Pisha enjoyer
>>545437439There will be some. According to what we see, all the companions on the page are romanceable. You will fuck the bug.
>>545437923I wish I wasn't that easy, but space bug coochie confirms my purchase. So should I expect an indie-level game or is this closer to AA
Why did they scrap my Wicca wife.
why are all the vtmb2 girls so... mediocre
>>545436794thank god hunky male furries are confirmed
>>545439470>EmpathicPft>WolflikeThat is a wolf my good man.
>>545436794>2027 releaseyeh I'm not pledging shit
>>545436794uh oh 15 hours to go, guess we're not getting that mechanic class...
>>545433274Vampires just don't normally fuck like humans
>>545438295yes. the glasses girl seems to be her replacement
how many runs of rogue trader have you done
>>545442605Like 4, mainly for builds
New NPC for DH
>>545388941Not at all, Inquisitors are expected to pursue every line of investigation.
>>545443330>owlcat is uglymaxxingwhy and what will the results be
>>545444371>whythis is warhammer
>>545440529They are not capable of sex in the traditional sense, but can become capable via learning the ability Blush of Life - this restores typical bodily functions like sexual ability, sweating, breathing, warm skin. Because of the second inquisition it is likely that every kindred has put some time into learning the trick to try and pass more easily. "The kiss" (feeding) is also extremely pleasurable, especially between vampires, and so sexual activity can be replaced by feeding on one another, giving each other tremendous orgasm++ sensations while also emotionally bonding to one another. If anything it might actually be superior to normal sex. But for me it's about emotional closeness and real love, holding hands with Safia and walking the snow covered streets, taking in the Christmas music and the lights and the crowds, talking about Safia, looking at Safia, kissing Safia, sitting on a park bench with Safia and talking about our mortal lives, kissing Safia, hunting with Safia, returning to Safia's apartment haven with Safia, spending eternity with Safia. Not everything needs to be about sex right away.
>>545444371>UglymaxxingHe looks good (for a black man) if this is just 40k.
>>545444371He looks alright
BG3> Wotr
>>545444887What am I looking at?
>>545445216A boss from Dark Envoy
>>545444371They could post an actual barbie bimbo and you faggots would still call her ugly
>>545444452>it's warhammerthat's even more confusing. it's not cyberpunk where everyone is a dangerhair cropcut. the visual warhammer aesthetic is basically "frank frazetta in space". i'm not saying everyone should be beautiful. but at some point it's a pattern for them.>>545445948kibbles was pretty popular for a short haired girl
>>545419202update:i played it but the combat got boring.any recommendations for a blobber, anons? one guy already recommended EO4, i'll look into getting a 3DS emu working
wths a blobber
>>545443330Ew, he's brown
>>545446358Except you’re talking about a generically attractive grizzled dude
>>545446358In warhammer everyone has conspicuous scars and terrible skin, even noblemen.
>>545398102>>545418068I forgot to enable the teeth layer lol.
Ayo, who let the fatties in?
>>545433139A high IQ tremere BVLL of course.
>>545446358>kibbles was pretty popular for a short haired girlHow does she look with long hair?
>>545447649Why you put moles and blemishes on Arueshalae? She's meant to have uncannily perfect skin like all pretty outsiders.
>>545447649Looks better without
>>545447710Is she retarded?Anyway, what should I do with her lads?
>>545434102>trannyI though outstar was a woman biological woman and just one of those California liberal chicks who says they are "non-binary" and has short hair to be special.
>>545448079AAAAAAAAARTHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR
>>545448079Rape
>It pains me that Galfrey, the mad queen, has shown you the hand of treachery, elantach>I would never betray you that way
>>545447873>>545448067
>>545447649Looks better without imho. I do feel they might be situated a little lower than they should be.
>>545448079>[Glass her.]
Yrliet pregnancy(triplets)
>>545448207ACK.AH..AH.AAAARTHUUUUUUR!Boy, bumping into this Lancelot portrait while browsing the portrait packs from nexus was a godsend, it really fits the journey of my guy>>545448248Bet she's a dry carpet down there, with how old she is>>545448441Mhmmm! Mhmm! It shall be done
I bought a home on beautiful Copero. Housing is an important part of a good rpg
>>545448803What this
>>545448603One human, one Eldar, and one Ork
>>545448998swtor. the kotor games are among the greats of crpg, so swtor always had a special place in my heart, even if it has an mmo coat of paint.
And they are gone. I really wasn't planning on killing everyone here, but Galfrey bitching annoyed me too much, I saved her ass 3 times and that's how she repays me.The speech sequence afterwards was pure edgykino. Why very few games allow you to have an evil power fantasy like that? Seriously, I need more for all the good I did in BG2 and DAO..
>>545448425>I do feel they might be situated a little lower than they should be.Okay, I redrew it. This better? I'll need to re-add shadows.
>>545449528Different anon, but I think it just works better without the teeth layer, as in >>545398102The shading creates depth, with the teeth fully drawn it's like they're too prominent.
>>545449528It's better than the previous one but I'll echo >>545449703. Less detail works out great here.
>>545448803>>545449379keep it in /vm/ dude I don't want to have to scroll past your literal endless blogposts and multi-day rants about your interpretation of the force and whatever other stupid shit you want to plague us with
>>545447873hot
>>545444643I can appreciate this
>>545449379Keep posting SWOTOR seems fun. Can you buy houses there? How's the customization?
>>545449379Still waiting on my Lord Zash romance.
>>545449703I see. It clashes too much.
>>545450058You can customize a stronghold, which is like a house/base, and place your companions in various rooms and so on. The customization isn't bad, but could stand to be better, especially given that the game survives on a cash shop and everyone is playing space barbie, they've really underutilized it
So does Arue have normal organs and anatomy like a real girlOr is she just made of chaos and demonic pulp inside
>>545450431Its all womb
>>545450058There are 14 houses, with another new one coming this month. Great diversity of planets, and there are thousands of decorations. It uses a snap grid system for placing objects, which you can then adjust with sliders to turn/move stuff within an area. It's similar to ESO's housing system if you've played that.>>545450096based. Me too. She's still alive in some world states depending on player decisions. It would be great if she showed up as an alliance alert for the Inquisitor and was super casual and friendly despite all the history. Would be funny.
>>545450431She's a succubus and I think it's outright mentioned she can shapeshift (not applicable ingame) so you decide how to interpret that.
>>545449528I like the teeth, even if they draw the eyes to the mouth a bit much. But then, if the focus of the pic is the smile, then it should stand out.
You forgot to switch to 'Lanafag' by the way.
>>545450602what's the appeal of housing in MMOs?does the game limit your inventory capacity if you don't purchase one?
>>545450681Desna locked her into her succubus form, so she can't shapeshift on her own. In any case, succubi and incubi definitely have reproductive organs, else alu-fiends wouldn't exist
>>545450965No, no practical benefit. There are just a few quest for minor xp and achievements related to them, but no significant benefit. It's just cool. They have a large capacity for players to visit and people have parties in their houses. I've seen some with 50+ people. There are also housing competitions where a group goes through everyone's house and gives awards for theme, or creativity, etc. It's a place you get to customize. It's one more element of expression and customization in a roleplaying game. It's really fun.
>>545450965You do have to have one to access legacy storage across accounts. Otherwise it's just a cool place to decorate. Some players use it for ERP, but not me.
What would Arue be into now that she's good?What's her fetish post-redemption, as it were
>>545451243>>545451326show me your mmo house, anon
>>545450965Back in the day mmos used to be social games and you might want to have a cool base to decorate and show of to your friends
>>545451243>>545450602>>545449379where did your name go
>>545451352Deep fisting kc
>>545451352She still sounds pretty kinky and has wants, so probably the same as pre-redemption, just with the overtly cruel fetishes removed.
>>545451517Koobina
>>545451517hard without a video walk through, but it's fairly simple, the first apartment/condo Lord Zash bought for me when we arrived at the capital, here's the elevator entrace with a few guards posted. I have guards posted at every entrance - elevator, garage, pad - but none permitted inside my home of course.
>>545451517>>545452367Here's our little dining area, complete with server droids, behind me (best angle I could get) is an L couch with some nice drinks. Very moody with the rain outside, perfect for dinners with Lord Zash.
>>545451517>>545452572The bedroom, with all the furnishings Lord Zash got for me, silk sheets
>>545452367>>545452572>>545452758
>>545451517>>545452758One of the studies where we keep some of the archeological finds and artifacts Zash and I have come across on our adventures, she has taught me a lot of Sith history and we enjoy going to dig sites together
>>545452796
can you impregnate arue? in terms of the lore
>>545453371Yes.
>>545453371
>>545451352She'd be super subby and enjoy larping as a tradwife, complete with slave collar
>>545453503How much semen has she stolen
>>545453503why did you post that
>>545453503You evaporated 1000 gallons of water to do this
>>545453589quite a lot it seems
>>545453864thank you for your service
I bet she is baby crazy too
>>545444643>Not everything needs to be about sex right away.Maybe you should try playing Rogue Trader, they have a romanceable elf who would be right up your alley
>>545455121he has, its THE waifufaggot
>>545455390What!
>>545455469the annoying one not the fun one
>>545443330>RadicalSomeone prep the pyre.
Haven't played veilguard, though this guy reminds me of that necro companion from the pictures
>>545455390I'm the main Yrlitard around these partsThis thread ain't big enough for two of us
>>545455615she drinks six extra large smoothies a day, this thread ain't big enough for one of you
What CRPGs offer compelling dialogue?
>>545455615He only likes Cassia and Kibbles so you won Yr*let
>>545455605I can see it but he looks younger I think
>>545455715Why all modded femmes look like this?
>>545456297Modders are coomlords. I thought it was sex slave Serana version 1000.
>>545457056>>545457056>>545457056