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Comparison edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
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>Thread question
What is the most underrated or unknown CRPG you've played?
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>>545457056
>What is the most underrated or unknown CRPG you've played?
Silver
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In pathfinder 2 I want to play a lesbian female dexterity paladin, can I?
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So besides the two siblings you can customize, here are the 4 main Dark Envoy companions. From what I''ve heard there are two more mutually exclusive ones that depend on which of the competing factions you side with, so the total number is 5 + your two siblings (who have their own personality as well and are not blank slates - reminder there are no dialogue options apart from making major choices the characters act out the rest on their own, but there is decent reactivity for all of the choices so far). Also they cover each of the 4 base classes and you choose their specializations.
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Mom!!! Mom!!! Aru is raping tiefiling orphans again
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>>545457812
Is this good?
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>>545457812
shill your game more
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They all dressed up as me. Cute, wonder what a swarm version of this event would look like
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The women that crpg deserves.
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>>545458529
>posting something that's not Owlkek spam is shilling
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>>545458683
The women you people deserve aren't women at all.
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>>545458692
what the fuck are you going on about, do you have autism, do you need a handler for the internet, im asking them to sell their game more, you know being a shill, because im intrigued about what theyre selling
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>>545457812
tell us what really matters here
are they bangable?
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>>545457812
How's the combat? DND lite or something new?
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>>545458551
Antennae and fairy wings
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Starfinder Afterlight has hit its final stretch goal to get a second post release class. I am still seething that the bug is not voiced by a woman. I hate Spaniards so fucking much for denying me bugsex
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Hot take!!!
Outerworlds 2>new vegas
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>>545459526
just redo the voicing, then? in a female voice
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>>545459662
Yeah let me just hire a voice actress to completely revoice a character. Are you retarded?
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>>545459723
Just use Sasha Grey voicebank and make an AI do it
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Can't wait for solasta 2, secret of the weepstone and temple of elemental evil to drop so we can go back to being a dnd kino general instead of a owlcat general.
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>>545459860
kill yourself anytime
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This encounter was damn rougher than I remembered on hard. It's just dozen or two gargoyles, but they all rush KC - and if you let them get a full attack in it's over. Mirror image helps to survive for one turn, but I need a turn to cast stuff to deal with rest of dozen gargoyles.
And if you let them down you, the equally tanky clerics will just deal you in with channels
>Not even stoneskin helps since half of the 'goyles are half-fiends or something that can Smite Evil and ignore all damage reduction that way
It's not always easy being Neutral Good.
Thank god I randomly picked up Freedom of movement scrolls out of a whim, dealing with hold person cancer would've been impossible
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>>545459867
>secret of the weepstone
This is gonna bomb
It's a grognard simulator
There's very little to discuss, there's no room for "builds" or much of anything.
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>>545459860
Based
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>>545459935
>solasta but actually good
>going to bomb
Meds NOW
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>>545460061
Have you played the demo? It's as bare bones as it gets, and leans way too much into the dice-roll simulator.
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>>545457056
How much does Owlcat pay you to shill their games?
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>>545459931
Pre casting is the way for most of the game issues. The other is having nasty AOE spells. How are you feeling about the game now, post Kenabres?
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>>545459526
Why do you want the bug
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>>545460443
I get paid in cuck romances
Already bought DH and will buy Osiris
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>>545460272
you literally can just speed up or skip the animations in the settings if you dont like the dice rolls.
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>>545457056
Why the fuck Ivory Sanctum so long?
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Crpg romance of the year.
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>>545458529
>>545459226
I like it so far. Though I'm not sure would it appeal to everyone who likes the traditional CRPG formula
It's real time with pause (or slowdown though that's adjustable) you have 5 slottable active skills and a seperate weapon skill depending on what you have equipped. You have 4 classes and each has 3 unique specializations with their own abilities. You can draw aoe areas for some abilities which is cool. There are synergies on a lot of abilities with status effects they inflict. Loot is Diablo style, random with affixes except for some story related drops. You can craft and enchant and buy stuff. There is a research system where you unlock either buffs or crafting/enchanting stuff (it's just collect resources for it and level it up)
There is no traditional CRPG dialogue, the characters talk independently you just pick major choices for them: The brother or sister or sometimes one of the companions leans towards a choice and argues for it and when you pick the choice the people who proposed it win the argument and the others either agree/are swayed or begrudgingly accept the outcome. There is reactivity for these choices, for instance during an early quest you can choose to keep a stolen ring and bring it back to your employer (that she wants) or return it to the elves it was stolen from. Your employer stays mad at you if you do so and the elf returns later to help out the town after a certain event etc
Game is combat heavy, you fight a lot of enemies on the maps and you have random side dungeons between main story quests and challenge arenas for loot and xp. (so far 2 dungeons after every main mission) the game is pretty linear so far. Imo the combat is fun, the main loop works well.
>>545459183
No idea, I didn't see anyone mentioning romance. Considering the dialogue you have two main characters and idk how it will work if it is present. Maybe there's a choice. Would be funny if Malakai's only options are female elves I guess.
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>>545460910
Owlcat devs are JRPG fans and are trying to create Trails-levels of end chapter dungeons, but with none of the hype and fluff
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>>545460670
Because there is no game other than teraurge (RIP) where you can fuck the bug
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>>545461084
>shadow vampire
>black
Vampire the Masquerade by Zordon
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>>545460582
Prebuffing is hard when most early game gived morale bonuses, and I forgot to bring obligatory animal-themed stat boost potions/scrolls along. They also don't really solve high AC/DR that gargoyles have, but thank god for Explosive runes (feat. abudant casting), that haste wand that Wolfij can sell you, cleaving shot on manticore Wenduag and the fact that new gargoyles spawn in perfect clumps.

Haven't gotten to real mythic path yet. Someone said earlier that Azata path takes a steep nosedive thematically after you get on it in Drezen, so I'll have to see.

Is it really explained where this particular specimen ever came from?
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>>545459860
does it really have to be a specific porn star?
there's generic voices that knock your socks off, but some guys are big into thinking about voice actresses, read their instagrams about where they travel and shit. that seems weird to me

>>545459723
just use a computer program, you doofus. you're either trolling or some sort of luddite. you gonna hire a mexican to wash your dishes too? get a dishwasher
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>people are unironically hyped for solasta 2
Sure the ready action thing is cool but other than that its a 5e combat simulator. Why not play something like knights of the chalice instead where its a basic dnd combat simulator but doesnt use something as shitty as 5e.
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>>545459662
>just AI voice this freaky bug so now it's "female" and you feel more comfortable when you jack off to "her" private bits
mental illness, now with extra layers
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>>545461410
You mean Yaker or Gargoyles? Yaker is just a high level Hellknight (That somehow is levels higher than his superior, but again, lore wise, people with more levels on "prestige" classes are more powerful than pure builds)
The gargoyles will be explained soon

Azata really changes a lot how you view the game, so do Angel, Aeon and Demon.
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Argenta if she were in PF.
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>>545462092
She should be black like seelah, it would make her better and more erotic.
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>>545462092
why would someone who shoots a crossbow need such heavy armor
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>>545462382
Incase someone attacks her.
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>>545459931
Install Bubble Buffs
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>>545460842
Yeah and once you speed it up, there's virtually nothing to the game. There aren't any deep mechanics or builds. That's just how 1e is.
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Whats going to flop harder the expanse or solasta 2?
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i think both will do alright
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>>545462775
>That's just how 1e is.
5e/slopfinder brainrot.
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What's more cringe, space without aliens or d&d fantasy?
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>>545462806
Expanse will do surprisingly well
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I don't like her voice acting that much.
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>>545463037
d&d
space without aliens can be cool if you have something to carry it like gigantic mechs with huge lasers that sometimes punch each other
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>>545463193
It is a bit whiny unless you turn her evil. She never sounds like the badass demon hunting lone wolf hero that Paizo's writing paints her as.
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>>545464179
I'm going to turn her evil this time she can stop being cringe
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>>545464179
It's because in the original module, she'd been demonslaying for decades. In the game, she's still a noobie, which is one of the reasons why she was captured at Drezen. It's also why everyone shits on her or doubts her. In the source material, she's a known quantity by the Crusaders, and is given grudging respect (hell, one of the origins of your character could be "rescued by Arueshalae").
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What's Camellia's definition of safe sex?

sauce, for anyone who cares:

https://files.catbox.moe/03jay4.jpg
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I've never even played WotR but Arueshalae already irritates me.
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>>545465468
Not a fan of succubi, are you?
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>>545465468
Based mindless contrarian
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>>545463025
But dnd 1e is boring as balls tho, it only started to became good with AD
>Slopfinder
Anon, Pathfinder/Starfinder 2e is currently the best d20 system that isn't a el genérico like Savage Worlds, stop being s contrarian
>>545462775
They made a game on DND first edition? What the fuck..it's just roll dice and TAC0?
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>>545464179
They changed a lot of the AP companions. Wendu is not supposed to be a catgirl moeblob, Aru is way less puny and more assertive, HORGUS FUCKING GWERM throw hands with Deskari if you call him in and he bankrolls a smuggling operation in Alushin if you bring him to the Abyss
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>>545465632
>Sinia and Notty
Gimme sauce, now.
Now if only Ryaneros would make a model out of her..
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>>545466226
>What the fuck..it's just roll dice and TAC0?
Pretty much. You had different weapons with different reach, and you could position your guys in three rows. You could also pass a turn and take no action.
Without the tabletop atmosphere of narrating an adventure with the lads, it's pointless.
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>>545458551
You eat everybody.
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>>545466226
PF is limited to a few metabuilds that everyone gravitates towards because 95% of builds are worthless. There are only a few combinations of feats which are viable, especially if your DM is going to be throwing 50 AC creatures at you. Many feats are also useless as they're just there for flavor (seriously, who is going to waste a feat on fishing).
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>>545459931
Death Ward makes you immune to the clerics' channel negative energy. Also gargoyles are not immune to poison, except for the Half Fiend ones, and don't have particularly good saves either so you can just cast a bunch of stinking clouds. If all else fails then you can just Dimension Door across the cliff, while leaving one character with Invisibility on so as not to break line of sight and just let Regill solo the entire Gargoyle army. Yeah it's slow as shit, but it can be done.
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>>545466760
>(seriously, who is going to waste a feat on fishing).
I wish they had a fishing minigame in WotR instead of crusade slop
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>>545466498
>Wendu and the mongrels are just enemies you kill
>Arue is a succubus Aragorn
>Camellia is dead, and the librarian she kills is a companion
>Hulrun dies, regretful of all the innocents he killed
>Galfrey is reasonable

I wonder why Owlcat made so many changes. Perhaps this is why GWs was breathing down their necks the whole time they were designing RT.

>>545466760
Many DMs operate off of a sort of point buy system. You can take three shit feats for the price of one good one, sort of thing.
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>>545457056
>TQ
Edge of War
It was a sovlful crpg in early access that sadly lost its publisher pretty early on, and last month after two years of being worked on for free by some of the devs, its development was ended
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>>545466498
wtf AP Horgus Gwerm sounds like a bloody gigachad
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>>545467394
Those APs are old, so I wouldn't be surprised if a few changes were made with the consent and guidance of Paizo. They liked a few changes. Heck, they liked Kangamaker so much that they remade their campaign for 2e and added all the OC companions on it.
A few design choices are weird, even to them though. They greenlit the Amiri romance, but Owlcat never touched it, somehow. Paizo doubled down and added a sort of romance for her in the 2e AP.

Aru looks way prettier in Paizo's style btw
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>>545467394
They wanted to insert their fetishes
>horrid monster girl
>moeblob succ
>pretty girl who is pure evil
>betrayal which you can forgive if you want
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>>545468080
Amiri romance would have been too wholesome and straight-forward for Owlcat.
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>>545468080
All of the characters are prettier in Paizo's style. Even Horgus a silver fox you could see seducing Camellia's mom.

>>545467984
He was.

>>545467394
Mongrels were still allies. You meet Sull and Lann, though Lann's characterization is very different.
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>>545466498
I hate what they did to Horgus. I don't understand Owlcat's bizarre changes.
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>>545467984
He's a pure rogue/aristocrat who carry his weight somehow. His mini arc is quite fun, a bit of coward and more coerced than willingly joining your party, but once he gets the mythic juice, his confidence skyrockets.
He also sort of bankrolls your party, giving everyone the mandatory cloaks, armors and weapons if your group missed some loot or spent it poorly
>>545467394
In Galfrey retardation defense, during the AP, she's your boss, and your mythics are more like a second class, than you suddenly becoming an undead god or a dragon, the whole Areelu plotline about her son and whatnot doesn't exist in the AP, she doesn't feel threatened, she cares about your squad and she constantly sends you to die, but you somehow survives. Iomedae herself also appears and ask her to treat your party nicely
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>>545468438
Here's Jerribeth in the AP. In the AP, she's a female Glabrezu, while Owlcat turned her into an Oolioddroo (fly demon). Additionally, she was the one to corrupt Staunton. Minagho was more of a fighter than seducer.
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>>545468889
Minagho. Note the armor?
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>>545468412
>>545467984
>>545468438
>>545468639
He and Wendu were the ones who suffered the most changes overall, Horgus was supposed to be one of the first NPCs you meet during the AP, the whole cave section was basically you babysitting him while you both fled to the ruined Kenabres. And then later he could be convinced of joining forces, scammed, shanked and robbed, etc, etc. It's wack how they removed all his presence in the story out of nowhere.
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>>545460443
they pay a marketing company based in india who have full time shills assigned to certain websites with an engagement quota, such as X number posts about X per hour during working hours
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Is it possible to roleplay in the Blue Prince?
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Do the muh shill schizos genuinely not comprehend that nobody gives a fuck about this general and people just like different things than they do or are they just shitposting
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>>545469064
Blame Camellia. From both a Watsonian and Doyalist sense, she ruined him.
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crpg set in the 1950s
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>Cast Repurpose on giant Mythic Glabrezu
>Reanimates as regular Glabrezu
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>>545467394
>I wonder why Owlcat made so many changes.
but anon, 4chan told me owlcat had no choice but to make everyone gay and trans because that's how it was in the campaign! you're telling me they made loads of major changes?
>Perhaps this is why GWs was breathing down their necks the whole time they were designing RT.
is this something that happened? i remember reading twitter posts by both gw and owlcat staff saying gw essentially gave them free reign. are you saying they both conspired to lie about this, and that the truth was actually different? how do you know
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>>545469302
Travelling at Night is in 48
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yeah dude they made an owlcat subreddit and official discord they pay people to manage but wouldn't pay some one for presence on a site with similar foot traffic
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>>545469421
Sosiel and Irabeth ARE still gay in the AP though. Anevia statblock hints her being a tranny, and the gender change potion already existed in 1e. But like all 1e misc items, it felt like a fetish shtick, like the Lamashu rape mask, or the mythic chimera that can impregnate you
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>>545469215
>Watsonian and Doyalist sense
Elaborate on that
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>>545469657
In-universe and out-of-universe (meta) analysis.
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males should have higher strength
females should have one extra inventory slot
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>>545469742
Makes sense
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>>545469935
>females should have one extra inventory slot
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>>545469935
Males should have higher strength
Females should be unable to take any melee combat skills, but have significantly higher charisma.
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>>545469935
are you implying they both already use the ass as an inventory slot
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ordering uber eats, talking to indian shills about dark asset flip, living paycheck to paycheck, bernie bro, reddit cross posting
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>>545469935
>one extra inventory slot
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>>545469935
>Female companion handing you something is always a gamble
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>ordering uber eats
>living paycheck to paycheck
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>>545469421
I don't know anon, at this point I wonder if Owlcat changes were for the better, minus a few bullet points here and there. WOTR sucks to DM and sucks to play, and it's by far one of the worst APs in 1e, losing only to stuff like that Pirate AP and the first version of the Runelords AP. Plot is somehow more shallow than the game we got, and most of the stuff is barely connected between books. Most of the lore heavy stuff (The healing of Sarkoris, the redemption of Noticula, Galfrey ascension into becoming a Herald) all happens offscreen or in other AP (Tyrant Grasp, Return of the Runelords)
I think Owlcat picked those adventures because they were quite shite to play, and had some cool mechanics they could sprinkle in
Anyway, have the Runelord of Lust in all her glory
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argenta keeps ammo in there
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>>545470638
they probably picked them because that's what paizo let them have.
i really don't think they got to pick, considering what you wrote
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>>545469935
incel meme
later you will cry about how games are humiliation rituals
look into the mirror
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>>545468412
>All of the characters are prettier in Paizo's style. Even Horgus a silver fox you could see seducing Camellia's mom.
no way owlcat would deliberately make characters uglier.
that horgus pic has to be fake or out of context somehow. his in-game art makes him look like the ugly bastard from hentai wearing silks
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>>545470638
>you can see her thighs through the translucent inner fabric
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>>545470959
Most likely, ye. If they wanted to
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retards they said they played the table top and decided to make it a game. their party got wiped by wendaug and some dude made a lich
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>>545471241
oops, submited earlier.
If they wanted to get the PF crowd attention, they would have picked the Rise of the Runelords > Return of the Runelords as their base material, since Paizo is still living through it's glories and wanking it to this day, just like how Wizard's is still milking Straid
>>545471236
Here what she looked like before bumping into the player party.
Sorshen arc would translate to a very cute questline in a crpg, I feel, since the whole thing about Runelords is how their virtues got corrupted so there is a huge ass journey from her to become the runelord of love once again
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>>545471881
>their party got wiped by wendaug
you play a game made by casuals?
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>>545471923
Very sexy lass
and you're making me wish Owlcat or anyone would one day go and make the Runelords APs into crpgs
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>>545472370
It's what every Pathfinderboo been asking ever since WOTR, but they went with 40K and said they won't touch PF soon, so there a reason a huge amount of people turned against them.
DnDbabs also been begging for a Birthright (Basically Kangmaker, but more akin to Fire Emblem) CRPG for decades, but no one answered the call
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>>545471225
>no way owlcat would deliberately make characters uglier.
They lost some of their artists between Kingmaker and Wrath. That's why the character portraits in Wrath are less pretty and more awkward looking.
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>>545470638
It's ironic how D&D adaptations are way more horny than PF, when the PF source material is way more overtly horny than the relatively PG D&D splats.
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>>545472693
there's barely any art in the game to begin with, though.
how many unique portraits even are there in wotr? 50? less than that?
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>>545472996
1e is edgy and horny, and was also a place where every writer who was kicked out of Forgotten Realms magazines could put his piece in, raping animals was a possible build for Lamashu clerics, and I am not joking.
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Why did 1e dnd make race and class the same thing for everyone but humans?
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>>545472996
well the pf guys are a lot more politically correct. it's a modern game with modern sensibilities by a proper corporation in the age of twitter.
meanwhile drow are basically sex dungeon elves written by gygax in the 70s and 80s and stocked on the shelves of hobby stores.

i guess you could say it's a very different origin story
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>>545473565
Only humans have the potential to transcend their race
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>meanwhile drow are basically sex dungeon elves written by gygax
And in a perfect world they still would be.
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>>545473565
racism
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>>545473565
for the same reason it didn't have magic missile until basically 2e.
there isn't a coherent single thing called 1e anyway. are you playing on the outdoor survival map?
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>>545472996
Aren't drow all dead in PF?

>>545473265
>tfw you learn about chad-zak
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>>545473918
>Aren't drow all dead in PF?

In PF, drow aren't a distinct race, merely elves who were cursed, usually because they committed so much evil that their skin turned black. There are some unfortunate elves who became drow through no fault of their own though, but by that point, they stop having much free-will and are supernaturally compelled to do fiend level evil. They can pass on their curse, but drow almost all abort, and even if they do have children, they're always killed since all Paizo drow are ridiculously evil. In 2E, they were finally wiped out in a systemic genocide, but there were never that many of them because again, they're all sociopaths living in small bands. Their own stupid evil nature keeps their population numbers down.
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any crpg set in greyhawk?
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>>545474216
can't be more evil than lolth drow. and somehow those have a thriving population.
what a silly scenario
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>>545458551
>Using jets as a portrait
unholy cringe
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>>545473918
We also have Rape Dwarfs
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Aerie got pregnant but not Viconia?
Lore breaking
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triplets with minthara
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Minthara is a single mother
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I can't believe Kibellah sent our kid away to be raised in the cult under the guidance of the Vizier (who is also Kibellah)
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is charname the only crpg protag confirmed to never pull out?
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drow women like natalism, their culture, rationality, sex

surface women like abortion, importing migrants, communism, and feminism despite being the weaker sex
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>>545475041
you don't know that. others could be infertile
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>>545475041
the vault dweller canonically busted inside
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minthara is a man
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I think Charname and Aerie's baby should have had some use in combat.
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can you knock up the romance interests in vtmb2?
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>>545475041
warden can get morrigan pregnant without the ritual
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>>545475221
The vampires are undead retar
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Huuhhhhh Obsidianbros?
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>>545474239
Isn't ToEE set in Greyhawk?
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>>545475041
KC didn't pull out of Arushalae.
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can you knock up a gith?
maybe using some esoteric ritual magic?
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Can you knock up an eldar girl using some biotech apparatus from the Dark Age of Technology?
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>>545475810
a hag could let you impregnate lae'zel
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>>545475706
Honestly, it's really sweet how you get to have kids with Arue if you get her true love ending
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toothless satire?

big california moment. comrade saywer and the trust fund proletariat fighting against the working class elite
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spoilers about romance? big gay moment. you need to stop reporting for racism and go hang out on r/owlcat
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>>545457812
Sestia is my wife.
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can you knock up a vampire?
maybe using some ancient blood magic?
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Larian don’t deserve Borislov
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it didnt flop
we didnt get enough money
the publishers held us back
bethesda didnt give us our meta critic bonus for NV
we didnt reach our backer goals
ill fix the system next sequel
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>>545477556
He was right about the Bethesda thing because they’re jealous talentless hacks that don’t want to be upstaged but Sawyer genuinely is a retard
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The Knight Commander's breath hitches as he peaks through an opening in Wilcer's tent. Each night he lingers awhile longer, emboldened by not getting caught.
Wilcer is removing his tunic and oiling up his hairy arms, then his two lumps-- like massive uncooked pierogi -- and finally his giant belly. He takes his time rubbing it in fully, around and in between every crevice, lifting his mighty barrel to get underneath it with a crisp slopping sound.
The Knight Commander tries swallowing quietly and calming himself, realizing he can hear his own jagged breath. He's lost his composure though, and a twig cracks under his boot. Did he gasp? Was it audible?
Wilcer pauses for a moment while the Knight Commander freezes.
Then, without revealing whether he senses a presence, he steps and shimmies out of his tunic like a round and hairy cherub, beginning to oil himself lower.
Squick squick squick, he is rhythmically stroking his thick hog now, "Quartermaster? More like Three-Quarters-master..." the Knight Commander thinks to himself.
Is it for show? As slow as he can, trembling, he begins to mirror the action with his own hard staff, heart pounding. Squick squick squick squick.
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>>545457721
>In pathfinder 2 I want to play a lesbian female dexterity paladin, can I?
Answer me.
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>Champion, beyond this door is a den of evil known as the Ten Thousand Delights
>In its winding depths all manner of perverse atrocities can be found, most mortals cannot withstand the temptations
>Please Champion, before we enter, allow me to ... release any of the tensions and burdens you might carry, so that you can more easily pass through this wretched place without succumbing to what it offers
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>>545477717
yeah TES game by old obsidian would have been good instead of every single garbage game by bethesda post skyrim
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>>545478376
Send wilcer garms over, he can "release my tensions" instead.
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>Wilcer's sweat smells like bread, drops of it landing on your back, massaged in by his eager hands pulling your hips back into him repeatedly.
>He whispers incoherently between grunts while working you, rough hands moving back and forth from your hips to handfuls of hair.
>"Yeah open that world-wound for me commander"
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>>545478272
Don't think there's anything stopping you from being lesbian or female if your group is fine with it
Paladin in Pf2e is called a champion though. Have been playing one with the lads, and I've had no reason to speck into dex more than one point due to the armour I use only allowing +1 from dex. You might find some way to make it work though, just personally haven't had a reason to theorycraft a dex champion since I play heavily armoured with strength weapons
>why the fuck are you replying to him, it's obviously bait
I know, but this place is full of bait and shitposting anyway, might as well share some info on Pathfinder 2e
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>>545477556
It's weird to be obsessed with one specific developer that you only know about through 4chan fanfic
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>>545465632
No, I'm not a fan of whiny moeblobs
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>>545478958
what about both?
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*pisses pants*
ahahahah rent free, rent free

sorry fan boy but josh the lolcow entered the news cycle again when 3/4ths of his studio got laid off and he's busy doing POE cope patches
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>>545478430
they made games post skyrim?
like what, that TES mmo?
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>>545478430
>post skyrim
Try ever
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>Y-yes, Jae, mommy...
the words come over the ship's speakers

>RT: p-please... unlock me when you tell me how you're with him
>Jae: with who...?
>RT: D-daddy... Abelard...
The words echo on the bridge, no one daring to move or acknowledge.
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>>545479119
complete and total sawyer mindbreak
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>>545479301
Wonder how other love interests and Abelard would react if you were the one to pull the sex transmission trick on them
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>>545479528
Jimmy would have a meltie
Cassia would break up with yoou after having a meltie
Yrliet is too retarded to understand what happened
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>>545479301
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>>545479301
Nah, doesn't fit, Jae is pretty traditional
That's more like something Yrliet would do
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>>545479147
flops forgotten like space skyrim, fallout 76, dishonored 2?

fallout 4 actually did well solely off hype and their settlement building crap
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>>545480260
>dishonored 2
Why do salesfags never know anything about this industry?
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>>545478697
It's not bait, I'm legitimately trying to RP a paladin/champion lesbian and want to be more DEX based since it doesn't make sense for me to overpower people with STR. Doesn't anybody RP in the RPG thread anymore
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Imagine being such a cuck you'd give up yourmythic powers
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>>545479301
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>>545480412
Keep sucking almost there
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>>545475635
Yes
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>>545480740
Do you think you would actually start crying if they banned chartposting?
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>your senechal is always there for you
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>>545481083
Would you? Faggot?
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>>545478701
Naaah I've met sawyer irl he is bad at magic the gathering
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>>545479528
Jimmy would grumble but nothing would really come of it.
Cassia would vomit with embarrassment, causing half the bridge crew to freak out and go crazy, and there'd be an entire side-quest to make it up to her and get back in her good graces.
Yrliet would be pleased that you shared your meditation session and would hope that the crew would find it instructive
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am i the only one who just wanted to push over cassia
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>>545482691
Nah me too
I wanted to bully that silly bint
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>>545482385
Also the ship wouldn't be able to move until you cheer up Cassia, because she's sulking too much to navigate.
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Lord captain these orks are green
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>>545469215
So cute
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Cassia is the Counsellor Troi of 40k
>Lord Captain... the Ork Warboss... I sense hostility from him
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Instead of trying to be bioware owlcat should do there own thing, spiderverse should have taught them that lesson.
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>>545484882
When does Abelard's warp manifested clone (twin brother) show up and try to cuck him?
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>>545458683
pretty cool kotor fanart, the aliens' facial proportions sure get wild
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who else is high af right now? its kinda cool that the game knows ive been just dicking around the map and doing all the side quest instead of the main quest.
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>>545485467
wish the artist had included hk47. only meatbags there
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So hunter = pet is better and ranger = character is better?

Whats the best subclass for hunter?
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>>545482830
realistically speaking, if cassia had some sort of tantrum and didn't want to navigate, what would you do?
just rape her until she agrees to it?
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>>545485930
Promote the spare navigator who hangs out on the bridge.
Fuck if I know where he came from but there he is
Otherwise do short calculated hops
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>>545485783
Hunter frontloads the ranger pet bonuses so it's the best choice for dips to get a particular animal companion before switching into a class with more restricted choices that still gets pet levels.
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>>545474216
dogshit worldbuilding
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What if cam replaced jae?
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what if my dick was placed in your waifu
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>>545487073
why does he have to look so cool...
cassia is mogged bigly
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Does your flagship have some kind of blood waterscaping specialist who maintains all these cult blood fountains
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Crpg with goblins?
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>>545489057
Bg3 the greatest crpg of all time
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Crpg with dungeons and dragons?
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>>545489550
Solasta
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Crpg with sexy elves and awesome magic?
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>>545489709
Arcanum
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I just got to Seige of Dragonspear in Baldur's Gate EE. Maybe not "just" got to it. I'm in chapter 9, but I haven't found any properly hard fights yet.

So since I'm not able to assemble my whole previous team (Mage, Imoen, Minsc, Boo, Dynaheir, Ajantis, Yeslick) I thought it'd be cool to do a whole new team for the rest of the story.
I'm using Corwin, Safana, Rasaad, Voghlin, and Jaheira (who I had for over half of my main story play through, but traded out for Minsc, and Dynaheir)

Is this an alright party comp for the coming challenges? Having two wizards was really useful for high burst damage, and versatility, so I'm not sure how well I'll do with only one.

Like I said, I haven't gotten to any real challenges yet. (not like the kind I found almost every twenty minutes in the base game) so I'm not really sure what to focus on.
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>>545490512
Its famous for being quite hard. Bring wands of fireball.
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>>545490512
I'd replace Safana with the gnome cleric/thief.
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>>545490682
I've got one on my mage and one on Dynaheir. they're both nearly drained.
Hope it's not too expensive to recharge them.
Fireball wands have been my sort of go-to easy win button for a few fights now.

How does the expansion compare to the lower Durlag's Tower, or those fucking wolfweres on that island? Tales of the Sword Coast was a bit overtuned if you ask me.
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Sucking on jaes titties until she cums!
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>>545490990
Well it will become way harder once they run out.
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do genralist builds work in this game? i just put some points into meds and lockpicks for utility.
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Wrath of the Righteous has way too many options when you build your character the first time, it'll take a year to read this shit
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>>545462382
In a fantasy universe where demons can fly at you, mages can teleport behind you nothing personnel kid, and rogues can turn invisible to stab you in the back
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>>545492218
this flaw is really good if you only focus on 5 skills. in the second planet most skill checks are already 5+ iirc
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>>545491882
That's not possible, elantach
Human women cannot cum that way
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>>545492414
Top 3 picks are
Demonslayer
Mutation Warrior
Sylvan Sorcerer
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>>545493101
I prefer a blood rager or cavalier of the paw desu.
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>>545493083
No need to announce to everyone you have never had sex before.
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>>545473918
>>545474216
>Aren't drow all dead in PF?
No, they never existed - in 2e they were in-universe fake news created by duergar expies (who laso no longer practise slavery) and snake people
>>545471923
>Sorshen arc would translate to a very cute questline in a crpg
Hell no, it's the crown jewel of Paizo's save-a-hoe storytelling obsession. She was arguably the most evil of the seven back in the day, and specialized in literal mindrape magic too.
If any Runelord is going to make a return to virtue it's Belimarius (or even Xanderghul), but neither of them are hot chicks so it's not going to happen, not even 2e.
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Does WOTR have console commands that don't break achievements, and is this shitty fextra site the only wiki?
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>>545457812
Well /crpg/ would you cum in Sestia or Vasso?
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>>545495035
Anon it's a game about siblings
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>>545494523
Nah, I will save them all..no Runelord will be left behind!
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Btw the ending "twist" makes absolutely no sense. Seems to me they wrote themselves into a corner and as writers were at the Conservatory they realized they had written themselves into a corner and didn't have time to rewrite.

But wait. The ending is even worse looked at as a whole.

At no point did any of the vampires in the Camarilla or Anarchs know about or suspect anything was being planned, and yet at the time the game starts the Sherriff of the Camarilla was Sabbat, the most socially active Toreador was Sabbat, the Sabbat had a lab inside Ventrue Tower which seems to me the game is already over before starts.

If a situation has come to this, that not only is half the Camarilla secretly Sabbat, but the rest of the Camarilla doesn't even care or suspect that this is the case. So in the end I can help the most incompetent group of vampires possibly ever?

Nothing is achieved if you save the Camarilla, they're just as retarded as before.
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>>545494986
Toybox has an option you can pick that allows you to get achievements even with mods and cheats
The Kingmaker fandom wiki is decent for WOTR
I also often use this neoseeker guide for quests and the like https://www.neoseeker.com/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/walkthrough
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Have they really still not fixed the one tortured background debuff never getting removed after the first dlc quest
Am I going to have to toybox this shit off
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>>545495095
?
I thought just the two main characters were siblings
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>>545495181
I mean yeah the game was rewritten at the last minute after being cancelled and changing studios so you can't expect much
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>>545457812
I would cum on her bald head
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>>545494374
i have had sex, elentarch. definitely, certainly.
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>>545495181
I mean I think the point is that everyone with power is either crazy or already compromised. The dude you're replacing even calls you a retard for not already realizing what's going on.
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>>545457056
This is the TTRPG art of the black Inquisitor NPC they revealed yesterday.
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>>545496263
Oh it's an actual AP guy
Interesting
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>>545496263
Why does he look Slavic?
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How do I enjoy kingmaker after wotr?
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>>545496263
is he black in that image?
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>>545496339
if you actually enjoyed wotr, you've got something wrong with your head
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>>545496098
say something only a sex haver would know
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>>545496432
Its fun if you use toybox and a buffmod. Well, more like it scratches that exp and loot itch.
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>>545496705
you mon'keigh are so vulgar. real connections are about mutual understanding. is sex all you think about? don't be so close-minded. there's more to life than breeding
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installing mods onto games should be illegal
beating wotr with a buffmod doesn't count. the entire point is that you can't buff everything because it's too time consuming, so you need to choose.
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>>545496825
real connection should include sex otherwise it is a simple friendship
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>>545496341
He got revitiligo from a Nurgle priest
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>>545472996
>>545473918
Hey uhhh, boss? Gonna need some sauce on this one.
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I need toybox for other stuff but sometimes I can't help myself from cheating with a quick rest.
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homo
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Why would you pick Jae when you can have a Tau
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>>545496339
I enjoy kingmaker's setting and progression more.
Wrath has this weird pacing where it feels like everything just rockets to 100 right out of the gate. There's no early mundanity to contrast the later experience with.
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Magritium turinos
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How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>545488817
There'd be a lot of coagulation issues in the drainage
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>>545496825
No wonder you're going extinct
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>>545499794
Yeah like, the first person you talk to is a dragon, then a giant bug hops out of nowhere and decapitates the dragon and things just escalate from there. You don't even get time to look around the market properly.
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>>545500785
Atleast I don't exist in a laughable setting lmao.
This nigga is even immortal, the one saving grace out of your grimdiculous setting is death and this nigga can't even do that.
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it's really a shame that kibbles wasn't in the base RT.
i think she's hot but she's not hot enough to replay 60 hours of game with identical maps, enemies, and dialogues.
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I'm the good guy!
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>>545502952
This is why I wait for all DLCs to release before playing a single long playthrough of their games. You have to wait roughly 3 years with owlcat but you get the added benefits of playing their games with 40% less bugs.
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>>545503091
yeah i get that. however, the funnest part of rogue trader was shitposting on /v/ with anons as we all experienced the game for the first time.
if you wait 3 years, all you'll get is the game + dlc.
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>>545503332
>all you'll get
that's not entirely true. you'll also get years of balance patches that nerf all of the funnest weapons and abilities.
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I wait 10 years after a game's release to complete it so I can be spared 4chan's shitposting
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I wait until a game is considered retro before playing it. That way, I can look down on everyone else for playing fotm slop
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>>545503332
Rogue trader broke for me on act 4 and I just got a dnf I'm never playing an owlshit game on release I still have only replayed it to a2
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hey so playing bg3 rn its my first crpg but rly enjoying it, a lot of them are real time instead of turn based, what would you recommend as a first real time crpg when im done w/ bg3?
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>>545504029
deadfire
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>>545504029
dragon age origins
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>>545503829
it's similar here. i've also tried to replay it a few times over the years. it's a hard game to replay: everything is exactly the same, from the dialogue to the fights. at best you might get a couple new dialogue boxes an hour.

i don't mean to be cruel but it's got less replay value than most visual novels. those things will have entirely different stories to experience if you pick a different option. RT feels like they wrote the story first, then just stapled on cosmetic differences for how to make your choices seem meaningful.
>broke for me
i had a lot of bugs playing it at launch, but i was able to get through most of them with toybox. of course the game as published can't be completed, you need at least patch 1 because of the necron bug. but that's act 5. you can get that far. it's maybe ten fights left before the game is over.

>>545504029
check out fallout 1 and fallout 2.
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>>545505378
>RT feels like they wrote the story first, then just stapled on cosmetic differences for how to make your choices seem meaningful.
compare it to something like tactics ogre which has completely different branching story paths depending on your choices. some choices mean you can recruit unique characters, other times your allies show up as enemies.

sure you have a lot of the same areas still, and the general crisis in the world is the same, but your approach changes not only the way you solve the crisis but also the kind of fights you'll face along the way. as well as what you'll have available when you do them.

meanwhile in RT and an WotR too for that matter, there's very little difference in what loot you find, what places you can explore, or what enemies you'll fight if you make different choices. basically the only difference is your abilities and companions. so the world feels completely non-responsive.

that doesn't kill the game, you can still have fun. but it kills replaying it. what's the point of doing exactly the same thing but with a gun instead of a sword.
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>sends his inquisitors during the the hardest fight in the Grey Garrison
>kicks Desnan groomers out of the city
>protects the Sword of Valor for you
And yet people hate him because he was kind of mean to Ember once.
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>>545457056
Doing an unfair playthrough taking a break from my hard playthrough on azata. Think I'll do lich -> gold dragon on this one.

>beating hostilla and wendywhile choosing Lann on unfair
Holy fuck that was tough. I had to choose angel the second time because I didn't want to get raped at the tower of estrod. I chose Lann because he is able to attack twice or even three times. Too bad he misses most of the time ...

I should have picked a pet class but I'm on the brown fur transmuter grind.

I am NOT looking forward to the gargoyle rape cave >>545459931
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>>545507557
This guy always attacks me for trying to help Ramien
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>>545507983
You don't have to go to the gargoyle rape cave.
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Seems like in Dark Envoy if some companion is among the suggested units meaning has story impact in mission and you don't select him, he will come along anyway in cutscenes heh
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>>545509491
I'd never abandon a short king
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who the fuck is """""""""""""""""hostilla"""""""""""""""""
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>>545510103
Meant hosilla. In other words, Baphomet's cum dumpster.
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>>545510103
the tutorial boss
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>>545510103
1 of the random female tiefling names
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Does this work with caster like Wizard or Sorcerer?
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>>545510858
I would assume not, casting isn't attacking and you don't get a penalty for iterative casts.
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>>545487312
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>>545488817
It's not actually blood
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>>545487440
Im going to kick Cassia out so I can try a melee Navigator!
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>>545496263
Well yeah, Zerbe is too. So are winterscale and vladaym
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>>545500785
I steal him in return
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>>545507557
>people hate him
trannies and pedos aren't people
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The gunslinger elf wrecks
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>>545504029
Non ironically, Dragon Age Origins, Jade Empire or Kotor Duology. They are not that deep mechanically, are flashy as BG3, and have fully voiced questlines, unlike most crpgs
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>>545506270
My biggest gripe in WOTR is how most NPCs don't react much to the current state of affairs.
I murderhobo'ed my way into the chain of command, and no one gives a fuck. There were a bunch of goobers bullying peasants in the chapel while Seelah and co were celebrating that she got the soul of her friends back.
None of my companions comented on the fact that I just executed Galfrey and what remained of the crusading army, replacing it with a bunch of demons, bandits and powertripping mages (Minus Daeran, he actually gives a piece of his mind to you after you kill his granny)
Drezen is a hellhole where blood rains all the time, but no one cares
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>>545507557
You support child burnings
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>>545513667
dude its a game about blasting the fuck out of demons
lol turn ur brain off and have fun
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>>545513667
Kinda want to see drezen becoming a shithole started lich but idk
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>>545510030
Based
>>545507983
>Brown fur
By the time you come there, you will have so many status buffs that they will job
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>>545513667
lol thats how all of Owlcat's games go. No reactivity.
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Corruptor stink cloud really kinda just fucks garg cave now there wasnt something so consistent and long lasting before
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>>545514119
To be fair, that's how most crpgs go in general, unfortunately. Many times the most you can hope for is some flavor text doing the barest minimal job of acknowledging something.
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>>545513667
Same deal in RT. There are people in cages everywhere, heretical sigils, blood and even a chaos space marine. Not a word.
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>>545513781
>>545514119
>>545514369
It's a shame how a genre that is all about roleplaying and OCfantasy has so little reactivity in general
>>545513889
Didn't do Lich yet (This is still my first playthrough and I don't plan on touching this game that soon after finishing my current run). But demonic Drezen looks cool, very edgykino, I liked the detail that the streets get more bloody, the higher your Crusade stats are, to the point that you have blood waterfalls after recovering your banner. Human npcs start to disappear, and eventually all you have are demons.
There is also a few funny setpices here and there, like the demons bullying Iomedae faithful in the chapel, three former crusaders simping for an Abyssal Huntress, two tiefilings wondering how it must feel to bed Noticula, and all those goobers you recruited during the Demonic Ascension mythic quest. It's kinda cute how they just abandoned Alushinra and just showed up in your doorstep after the fact, Anevia even remarks that the demon horde looks more akin to a pack of lost puppies.
Still, it feels shallow when you look past the setpiece
Velexia+Aru+Cam foursome when?
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>>545513667
works on my machine
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>>545515695
I did that, but no one cared that I did that afterwards, minus Daeran, which called me a retard, but also found the whole ordeal funny.

Regil was more concerned about writing reports regarding what remained of the Inheritor, than talking about the fact that I just slaughetered a whole battalion
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>>545495248
That is correct, I'm just saying between an honorary aunt, some merc and fully customizable sister its an easy decision

>>545512860
My memory of the game isn't too great but I think you're hitting the point that builds will start(if they haven't already) breaking the game in half
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>>545515517
I've beat the game at least 3 times I got to act 5 as demon but never beat it on that run so never got to see a5 demon drezen
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>>545507983
Great invisibility and corruptor+gas cloud solves everything in act 2.
Later you will have to hit things fair because they will have truee seing but gas cloud still beats everything and you get scirocco on top.
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>>545513669
If the children are as annoying as shitber then good riddance
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>>545507557
Most based character in wotr and unlike Regill he actually helps.
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I don't cast spells that I think are boring, even if they're powerful.
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>>545488817
I thought that's what death cult do in their spare time, it's their hobby.
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>>545519009
Regill helps keeping me entertained though
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>>545518917
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>>545507557
>is single handedly responsible for the city being unprepared for an attack because of his relentless seething towards hippies
He's a retard
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>>545519665
Eat shit lol. Shitnio tier character
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>>545513667
name one crpg with better reactivity
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>>545521237
dos2
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Do you guys actually create your own builds in wotr?
THere's no way right
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>>545509984
>>545512860
Does this game have romance the elves look somehwat cute
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>>545521750
I just wing it as I go
that's half the fun
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>>545521750
I play martials so it's not really hard.
>Figure out what I do and take feats that lets me do it better
>Figure out how to further boost my buffsluts
>Right click
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>>545521750
I have never looked up a build, that sounds completely retarded and I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror.

I also don't feel the need to do five dips or whatever. Just play your class or at most do a prestige class if it makes sense.
As far as picking feats, it's very clear what are relevant to your build and on anything lower than Hard you can take some dumb feats without mucking things up too bad.
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>>545495181
should have made the main villain a Baali, so you get a cool demon fight at the end of the game
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Stop asking for romances in games
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why is the owlbab's response to "your game has shit balance" always ALWAYS always "lol just lower the difficulty bro" as if that addresses the issue?
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>>545521750
Yeah but I know a lot of shit
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In my first playthrough of Kingmaker, my MC kept using Vampiric Touch on Harrim to heal himself, so I had him take Toughness as him getting used to that treatment.

That's how you should do your "builds"
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>>545521750
contrary to frogular belief unfair is not the only way you can play this game
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owlcat's doing another survey
quick, someone share the elf pasta so i can send it in
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>>545523240
Link?
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>>545521750
Yes, my build is 20 lvls of paladin
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>>545523240
Link it
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>>545523240
you mean this?
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>>545523240
Give survey link, I'll ask for more cuckoldry
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>>545523240
They aren't going to listen your 4chan elf coomer addiction
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>>545523240
I don't see a survey anywhere
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>>545523597
Of course not, I'll ask for more humiliation rituals for elftards. Total elftard death.
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>>545521750
I prefer to do pure class.
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There is no survey, he was just baiting for (You)s
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>>545521750
Now I do without issue
On my first run I kinda did winging it but it resulted in me having to lower difficulty
On my second run I allowed myself some internet help, while not following it 100%
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>make my buiwd fow me daddy
jesus christ just watch a Let's Play
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>>545521750
>Always in party
Domain whore(Cleric or very late game Sensei Inquisitor or both)
Divi wiz
Brown fur
Court poet
>Wiggle room
Paladin 11
Any other filler
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>>545521750
I just give all companions 20 lvls of whatever class they start as. Only excpetion is lann who becomes a demon hunter like he always wanted
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>>545523597
I mean, Owlkek does have 4chan as options in their survey for some questions, there's a non-zero chance that a community manager have been in this general or over at /v/ watching discussion of RT or PF
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>>545524476
do you just replay the same thing over and over again? that sounds like shit, and also not challenging whatsoever.

me? I never use a class twice, respec'ing companions with 20 point buy. No dips obviously.
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>>545524692
>non-zero
Try 100% confirmed
Remember they leaked the DH companion here
Probably the ones most pissed at the cuckposting
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>samefag: does anyone have my pasta?
>samefag: you mean this one?
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Will mass effect die tomorrow?
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>>545524695
Eh 2 wiggle room slots gives you a lot of mileage, paladin is useless without mark, late game skald 20 and inciter 20 becomes a thing
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>>545524692
They advertise here but if they listened to anons every female character would be a virgin sex slave
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>>545520854
>hippies pollute your city
>have to spend extra time enforcing discipline that could've been spent demon hunting
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>>545524852
good to know the ones who deny it are just the seething devs
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>>545525131
lol, pathetic
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>>545525313
so you get goated companions like Kibellah and tiefling sisters? They should listen to us more
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>>545525313
Instead, we just make sex slaves for other characters, ie Asmodeus and Galfrey
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>>545525668
>goated companions like Kibellah and tiefling sisters
nice joke
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>>545524692
100%. One guy was a leaker, and the other guy (maybe the same guy) gave himself away by readily giving away information that, while not insider, would be of zero interest to anyone not directly involved with owlcat. They also post on 2ch
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>>545525381
You can kill them and still check if there really is something wrong with the stone
He was just retarded
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>>545525668
At least you admit that they are not actual characters but are just incel waifubait
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>>545524692
who do you think writes so much about Wilcer ;)
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>>545526712
God queen Galfrey forbids getting rid of tertiary problems so you can focus on the primary ones
Only rogue agents like yourself can accomplish this
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>>545527505
Okay, who cares? Was anyone asking?
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>>545527505
its own thing being Outer Worlds
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>>545527505
>"nah, imma do my own thing"
>*jobs*
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Didnt outer worlds 2 prove a financial failure whats the plan now
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>>545528010
pillar's gate 3
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>>545528010
Rest on their laurels even more and ask "What do they eat."
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>>545527505
Why is joy in apostrophes?
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>>545527505
Also why are they repeating the same thing as a tweet AND as in-game subtitles?
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The Snorks CRPG
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>>545528554
Backhanded comment as Obsidian surely can't be having "joy" right now.
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Any game where I can be a strong illusion mage?
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Bioware = a shadow of its former self, bought and liquidated
Obsidian = churning non crpg slop like Avowed or Outer Worlds
Owlcat = DH and the Expanse look like garbage
Larian = busy making the same game for the 7th time (DOS3) and space slop
Bethesda = lol

What's next for crpgs?
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Somehow my *default* action on a mouse button was replaced with casting a particular spell. I most certainly do not want to cast that spell, I'd rather have the character in question perform a ranged attack with a crossbow. Anybody got a clue how to fix this? Reloading, even quitting the game doesn't help
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>>545529262
AK will save the genre
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>>545529262
AAA NO WAIFUS IM GONNA KILL MYSELF
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>>545529593
Try hovering over that spell on your action bar and press right mouse button
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>>545529728
enjoy playing Solasta for 5000 hours I guess
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>>545529262
All correct except Dark Heresy. It looks great. Sorry about your brain waifuism.
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>>545529262
Swordhaven
Banquet for Fools
Solasta 2
Pillars 3
Wasteland 4
ShadowRun: Hong Kong 2
Jagged Alliance 4
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>>545529995
why did you list "trash" 7 times
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>>545529995
>Wasteland 4
If only. Instead they are working on their own version of actionslop
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>>545529995
>ShadowRun: Hong Kong 2
Who owns shadowrun rights?
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>>545529262
Owlcat has basically no competition in the market but Larian, and now everyone is expecting Baldur's Gate 3 2 from them. Meanwhile Owlcat doesn't have to shit out a god tier budget to deliver a decent experience.
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>>545530286
more like owlcat can release a broken game every time and have paypiggies still buy it
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Me I'm just waiting for osrs sailing
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>>545529826

Yeah I see how I somehow marked it as autocast(?), that should be it. Thank you!
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Knowing that Owlcat developers post here suddenly makes the apologist posting/shilling for them far more understandable
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>>545530614
OP does it for free
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>>545521762
As far as I've seen and I looked it up it seems not. But if there was you wouldn't have much input anyways apart from maybe choosing between Vasso or Sestia for Mal and Benedict or Leon for Kaela given it's independent dialogue + you only pick major choices.
Though given the two main companions are young and the others are older veterans would they be down for it anyway
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>>545530279
I skimmed something about it, the answer seemed murky and confusing.
It's the curse on the CRPG studios. We can't have or keep anything good.
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>>545530896
>True non-linearity
This isn't a thing and only serves to create main plots that's just following random crumbs when it pleases you.
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>>545531018
>The Curse
It all traces back here
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>>545529262
DH looks fine, it literally looks like rogue trader 2
>BUT NO FISHFU!
Jesus fucking christ
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>>545530770
Then why are you even playing it and posting it here? Seriously I don't get why people even engage with garbage RPGs that don't allow romance.
Also your post is retarded, so what if it has little input. Making a few choices is enough.
And them being older isn't a fucking flaw, this is a fantastic opportunity to get sales on milf fetish. But no retarded devs squander cute girls. Elves to top if off. Just shitting on crpg fanbase, when they fucking know that's what most of it wants.
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Don't flatter yourselves, 4chan is not worth devoting any actual advertising time or money to. That goes towards mainstream social media. I come here in my free time to shitpost just like everyone else and I would even if I wasn't a developer
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>>545531043
>This isn't a thing
The Witcher 2 and Sir Brante say hello
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>>545531491
>so what if it has little input. Making a few choices is enough.
retard
please never give your opinion anywhere, crpgs will be better off without your squealing
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any else get a sudden urge to pre-order dark heresy and expanse: osiris?
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Why do people hate Woljiff again? He's just a dumb teenager, yeah he runs away when the Gargoyles attack but he's still some dumb kid who never knew any better.
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>>545531491
Because it's a fun unique rpg? We don't need romance. Besides there is frenship!
And honestly I'd prefer if we had some dialogue choice in this apart from just major ones.
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>>545531823
Anon you're shilling sonething that shits on fans. There is no reason that game couldn't have had romance. Everything you said is a non-issue and lame excuse.
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>>545531776
I don't preorder and I am certainly not giving owlkek any money. I'll just pirate dark heresy like I pirated all their games. Not gonna bother with shitspants at all though
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>>545531491
i fucking kneel
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>>545531967
It's not shitting on me because I find romances pretty cringe and badly done in games.
No, not everyone is like you, here primarily to make dollies smooch.
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>>545531823
Are elves in this aliens
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>a jeet somewhere didn't program two dollies to be smoochable
>this is literally a conspiracy against me personally
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>>545532541
if you aren't a dolly smoocher can you really call yourself a crpg fan?
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>>545531967
It's not shitting on the fans, you're just asking for forced romance. You really can't see a woman like pic related and going "oh she's a cool bounty hunter, nice elf design" you must go "UHHH my character needs to fuck her!!"
RPGs don't need romance, it's cool if it fits, here I don't think it does given how the game is setup and how the dialogue works.
>>545532679
Well yes, but humans here are "the real aliens" as they were the ones who came to the planet while elves were native to it iirc.
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>>545532541
You're in the minority. Look up any rpg discussion space.
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>>545532867
to quote a wise and worldly man: Life is adventure or nothing.
Sometimes part of that is smooching, sure, but it's not the crpg's raison d'être.
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>>545531397
>it literally looks like rogue trader 2
creatively bankrupt and a cash grab?
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>>545533182
what will reading the thoughts of lonely, terminally online, shut-ins prove?
The people who aren't fixated on that aren't going into those spaces and writing about their lack of fixation. Think, anon.
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>>545533431
>to quote a wise and worldly man
>look up quote
>it's a woman saying it
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>>545533095
Because that is an essential part of the game. Pleasing the player, the pixels on that screen are designed to give the player enjoyment. Make the player feel powerrful and rewarded. A part of that reward is winning the girl(s). That chick and the milf you posted are prime romance stock, as you described the setup, the protags are young and a guy having elven milfs lust for his cock is great player fantasy. Immersion or other excuses don't matter. Give the player victory both in the sense of power -> overcoming the obstacle and passion -> winning the girl. This is squandered potential.
But you are mindbroken to not fight for your consumer rights and needs and just gobble up the lowest iq slop.
Tell me in what way is that elf being unromancable improving the game. You can't. Because it would be better in every way.
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>>545531776
I'm not going to play expanse in the first place
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>>545533718
retard
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>>545533760
incel logic is something else
>the pixels on the screen exist to reward me with pixel sex
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>>545531776
owlcat games are dogshit
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>>545533814
sorry that she didn't pass as a wise and worldly man anon
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>>545533760
>Tell me in what way is that elf being unromancable improving the game.
Why does it need to be there? From a story perspective: This guy and his sister were scrapping buy to survive and help their settlement, their parents got slaughtered in front of them by assassins, they got a bomb shell dropped on them that their parents were invoved in researching something huge, that it's potentially a giant threat and that's what they were killed for so now a huge quest fell on their heads do you really think the first thing on this guy's mind is "Oh I'm gonna focus on fucking on of these elves", the 2 MCs are easy going additude-wise, but I doubt they would be looking to fuck when there is a huge clusterfuck they need to resolve.
I agree games provide enjoyment, but doesn't have to be romance simulation ffs.
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Look at how seriously that anon takes his virtual dolly smooching, holy shit
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this is a dollies kissing general, bud.
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>>545534573
>replying in good faith to an obvious baiter
What are you doing, faggot?
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>>545534573
Lol
Are you low T or what? No better way to take the stress off than having one of those elven milfs draining the voes out of his cock with her mouth. This dialogue here >>545531823 should follow up with a flirt and her taking that young man to a private room to fuck his brains out. Or even if you wanna play it PG a kiss or romantic date or cuddling, whatever.
Men would look for sex. It would be realistic your excuses are retarded and gay.
The game is infinitely worse without romance. And as I said. Player enjoyment>immersion. Even though what I suggested is realistic and immersive.
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>>545534573
So you're saying we should smooch the sister instead?
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Is there anything more cucked than getting a stand-in dolly to smooch and fuck your waifu?
Think about it. You spend all this time getting your stuntman-dolly just perfect and hoping that your desired romantic partner will be into him. You're basically asking to watch while your "MC" does what you can't.
The worst part is that it's even lower than actual cucking, it's cucking yourself with virtual dolls. If you can't see how bad this is then you're already too far gone.
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>>545533539
>>545531397
Never touched Owlcat games because they look ugly, but why people here praise WOTRO a lot and shit on RT? From my normie friends and their extended circles, they all loved Trader, and felt either bored or disliked WOTRO, or they liked the companions more, the romance more, the gameplay more and whatnot. So for a business perspective, why not pander to them, if they like it more?
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That's it, faggots, I'm out. I'm gonna go actually play some games now. Your faggotry and squealing over tfw no gf is melting my brain. You're fucking pathetic
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>>545535080
You're right I'll stop.
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>>545528010
a turn based PoE3 with terrible cinematics
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what the fuck is WOTRO
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>>545535610
>why people here praise WOTRO a lot and shit on RT
There are two types of people: faggots who are seething about owlkek dumping pozzfinder for warhammer, and faggots who liked rt well enough but are capable of seeing the game's flaws, of which there are many
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>>545535649
Don't let schizos chase you away fren, just ignore them
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>>545531619
But Witcher 2 is all about following Leto's trail, wdym?
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I-is that a sound of a dollie not getting smooched? Nooooooooo, save me vinckleman i am getting cuuuuuucked!
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>>545536083
Yes, just like every story is about getting to the end of it. I guess all stories are exactly the same then. Fuck off, disingenuous faggot
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>>545535462
>b-b-b-but I self-insert!!!
lmao yeah you also """self-insert""" as the bull while you're holding your wife's hand from the cuck chair?
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>545536424
Nice crpg-related post! Keep them coming!
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I don't understand why the schizoing over romance in isometric games where you barely see your characters or when romance is limited to two lines dialogue.
CRPGs never did Romance properly anyway, let the Japs mogs them. It's cuter and often better developed
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>>545536038
Sleep?
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>>545536515
It is CRPG related. The point being made is that romance in CRPGs is lliterally the same as being cuckolded, by your own MC.
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>>545536038
what's the most recent iteration of this archetype
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>>545536684
Cuno
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>>545536684
Ember
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>>545536684
Haha
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>>545536684
Orin
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>>545536038
Imoenuto
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>>545536424
it's not the same
I literally am my MC
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It's out
https://youtu.be/iSTOONv4hyo
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I just found out that Seige of Dragonspear was released after Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, and wasn't an expansion for the old game.
I've been lukewarm at best on everything added in EE. Should I even bother, or just back up and move on to BG2 already?
I guess what should have tipped me off was the fact that I had to buy the DLC separately. That, and Caelar being an Aasimar, which to my memory wasn't a thing until 3rd or 4th edition.
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>>545537912
No anon. You watch the MC. From your gaming/cuck chair.
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>>545537912
You literally aren't, lol, cuckboy
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>>545510858
Spellcasting is not part of iterative attack.
I guess a caster would have less penalties and attack at +10/+6, but that is pointless
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The fact that they've brought rt voice actors to voice that shitty wotr dlc gives me hope that they will also be back in DH. I liked those guys
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>>545538708
I just looked up a review, and people are saying it's also woke. It's from an era where most of the time they'd be a bit subtle about it, so maybe that won't be an issue. Still, I'm just looking for what others think.
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>>545538479
what's this guy's name again?
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>>545539068
pissed pendejo
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>>545539064
lol you sound like a fucking retard

But, it's fine. If you like the IE experience, you'll probably like SoD. It's pretty linear, there are some interesting encounters at least coming from BG1. I'd say it's worth a playthrough at least once, the biggest downside is starting BG2 a little over-leveled, but you could always import your BG1 end character I suppose.
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>>545538708
EE has ties to all the cuckolding content so I recommend it
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>>545539151
angry alfonso
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>>545521750
If you pure class, it's really not that arcane.
Melee needs to hit harder, casters need DC or mroe damage dice and beating spell pen, and you need to raise saves, attack rolls etc with your spells and abilities (which is more f a party composition thing than picking feats and equipment).

Simple multiclassing is not hard if you keep this in mind, you just check class features that are better from the levels you lose (get a class that bypasses feat requirements, get free finesse, get more inherent bonuses like from demonslayer etc)

Minmaxing for unfair with dips or hitting ridiculous numbers (for standard things like DC or getting the bast chance for parry) and doing it in a way you are not helpless in the first couple acts is harder, but after the first two steps, it is feasible.

You just need to fucking READ
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>>545539064
SoD is really bad. I'm too lazy to elaborate but have an old pasta (not mine).

Beamdog is guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones.

1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).

2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.

3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.

4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.

5. Siege of motherfucking Dragonspear.
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>>545539268
Not sure what I said to make me sound like a "fucking retard"
I don't have any opinions on the expansion yet. I'm just relaying what the first video I looked for said on it. If it's just people overreacting, and it's not really woke, then cool whatever. If it is woke, but still well written, then cool whatever.
I'm just hoping to hear some honest opinions on the reasons you evaluate it's quality.
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>>545539787
>It's from an era where most of the time they'd be a bit subtle about it, so maybe that won't be an issue.
You're wrong about this. Beamdog is infamous for NOT being subtle about how woke they were and rubbing it into the fans' faces. See above.
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>>545539646
Damn, you've convinced me. Maybe I'll check it out after I've played BG1/2 a few more times, but so far the story isn't catching me, and it looks like it's only getting worse.
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>>545539646
lmao
1. Good for them, I appreciate not having to do that I guess
2. why would I want to buy a copy of the originals, they're a straight downgrade
3. why would I care about this?
4. oh nooooo not the sacred and beloved Safana or Kivan
>slew, flooded
I think your brainrot might be terminal, anon
5. Is pretty alright, I recommend playing through it at least once.
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>>545539787
>I'm just hoping to hear some honest opinions on the reasons you evaluate it's quality.
I'd play through SoD again before I'd play ToB again.
This severely upsets the brainrot anon who is also btw exaggerating about the "woke" monster lurking behind every corner.
There's one line that you have to go seeking for in their dialogue tree, about one character who's trans. And that's literally it. That's literally all it takes to occupy certain peoples' rotted brains for literally decades.
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When I first played SoD I didn't even realize that I'd met the dreaded tranny npc. I still can't fucking believe all the meltdowns were over that.
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>>545540042
Caelar has absolutely nothing to do with the story and the entire "interquel" is just an excuse to focus on her and her quest. SoD is not just "mediocre but at least has some decent moments," it's actively undermining the journey of the original saga of BG1 to SoA to ToB, and committing the capital sin of changing characterization. Garbage.

>>545540110
Not my pasta, shill. Most of the points still stand.
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>>545540573
At release, she mentioned her 'identity/retardation 'unprompted.
They changed it to be behind a dialogue option
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I'm gonna play Cultist Simulator and The Book of Hours again, but this time I'm gonna try to actually understand all the lore in preparation for Travelling at Night. It's gonna be a fucking disaster
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>>545540573
The trans NPC is a nothingburger but it's still emblematic of larger issues. This isn't just an isolated case of awkward or cringe writing that was nitpicked, it was a sign that the writers simply did not care to respect the source material. Like Taash talking about "gender stuff" in DA4. Why is this in the game? What purpose does it serve? It's disingenuous to dismiss it as a detail that people had "meltdowns" over as if it doesn't matter.
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>>545541453
>as if it doesn't matter.
it really doesn't though, please go outside and talk to people
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>>545541453
It's a detail that people had meltdowns over and it doesn't matter.
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>>545541453
>It's disingenuous to dismiss it as a detail that people had "meltdowns" over as if it doesn't matter.
It didn't, literally no one gave a shit about it outside of people seething about it. I wouldn't have known anything about SoD if it wasn't for that.
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>>545541453
What does failguard have to do with anything? Are you ok?
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Please stop responding to the Russian
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>>545542040
When these morons get caught malding over nothing they try to save face by deflecting and equivocating. The classic "ok it's not actually a problem but doesn't the fact that I believed it was a problem say something more about the environment we're living in?"
No, it just means they got caught being a moron who huffs their own farts to the point they believe farts is all anyone breathes.
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>>545541768
>>545541859
Saying "X doesn't matter, the rest of the game is fine if you ignore X" is a red herring. It's a way to deflect actual criticism. SoD is trash in almost every aspect possible. The trans NPC is a diversion, which is why I didn't even bother mentioning it, you did. Is DA4 a well-written game that respects the source material if you remove all the "gender stuff"? No, it's still garbage. The gender stuff and Taash are just things that stick out and are easy to use as examples of deliberate bad writing, but they're not the main issue.

>>545542040
They're both shit games that tarnish the name they're associated with. It's called a comparison. You okay?
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Avowed bros let’s go
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>>545543201
>Avowed 2
All 3 Pillarsfags have been found dead. Is this the reason why they added TB for PoE1? That's hilarious.
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>>545543201
>Avowed
not a crpg, the same way vtmb2 is not a crpg, neck yourself
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>>545543638
Different teams.
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>>545543201
Bg3 didn't save Pillars...
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>>545543201
Not a crpg. Kill yourself, tranny
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>>545534573
To be fair I looked it up and Dark Romance steam forums ave quite a few romance requesters, given it's small to begin with.
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>>545543201
>the GOD of rpgs isnt credited at all in outerworlds 2
>does half the numbers of bloodlines 2
>no outer worlds 3
its time for the suits to give him absolute control of Obsidian to save the company.
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Okay so how does Avowed even end.
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>>545543945
To be fair, who gives a shit about the opinion of some random guy? Do you also screencap someone who begs for more furry content or <insert personal fetish>?
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>>545535610
>Never touched Owlcat games because they look ugly, but why people here praise WOTRO a lot and shit on RT?
Seething because they are not making another pathfinder any time soon
>>545533539
God forbit we allow sequels, ever
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>>545543638
There’s nothing in there to suggest that both can’t happen.
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>>545543945
>otaku mode engage
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>>545544153
They gave a good argument
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>>545544137
Has multiple endings so it ends down to what (you) do
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>>545544251
You have to go back (to reddit, steam, discord, whatever shithole that's not here)
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Microsoft has decided inxile GODS will make all the real rpgs while Obsidian does the action slop.
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I don't think literally anyone was expecting Avowed to lead to a PoE3 unless it was absurdly successful beyond expectations. Even Sawyer wasn't optimistic about a PoE3 existing.
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>>545544137
more endings than poe2
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>>545543945
This is literally CAM
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>>545544153
Over half of the traffic on this website is purely driven by people screencaping the opinion of some random guy to get mad about.
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>>545544505
>moral delima
Can you trust someone so illiterate?
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>>545544627
NO WAIFUS MY STEAMSISTERS
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>>545544729
>HURR DURR YOU MADE AN ACCIDENTAL SPELLING MISTAKE YOU MUST BE STUPID OR INDIAN I WILL NOT ADRESS YOUR ARGUMENT OR WHAT YOU'VE SAID
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What are the crpgs that did romance the best?
What are the best romances in crpgs in absolute?
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>>545544880
Found the Indian
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>>545544406
My copium is that Avowed will be the in between of POE2 and POE3 because there will be a time jump as they can’t use the watcher anymore.
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To Cam or not to Cam, that is the moral delima.
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cowboys and indians crpg?
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>>545544267
Short breakdown?
>>545544425
The bar has to be excavated for that. Still funny that all you do just ends with you watching Eothas.
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Chris Avellone is Sawyer, but smart and not a hack
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I'd rather be a Witcher than a Watcher
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>>545544074
>its time for the suits to give him absolute control of Obsidian to save the company.
This but unironically. He can finally make more kino like Pentiment and let garbage like avoid and outer worlds be forgotten
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What is Sawyer even working on now
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>>545545314
His suicide note
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>>545545314
A noose
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>>545544137
Nobody knows because nobody has played, let alone finished it
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>starfield
>avowed
>vtmb2
>outer worlds 2
wrpgs aren't doing well
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>>545545137
Endings include releasing the new god that wasn’t created by man, killing said god, making the living lands part of an empire, independent, a vassal or being under a ruthless inqusitional rule amongst other things
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>>545545529
Dont worry solasta 2 will save us.
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>>545545385
He wrote that note pretty fucking quickly
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>>545545203
Treating idea guys like they're rockstars and as if games are not made by 400 people under strict suit requirements is hilarious
They're not Kojima dude
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>>545545529
awful lineup
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>>545531491
>>545531967
>>545533760
>>545535136
You're right, ignore the reddit cucks and goyslaves
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>>545545582
>the new god that wasn’t created by man
Huh. So it just spawned naturally?
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>>545538708
Siege of Dragonspear was made because Beamdog really wanted to make another Baldur's Gate, but didn't have the license for a standalone game. So, they squeezed its story between BG1 and BG2 and pretended that it was an expansion.
I haven't played it myself, but I've actually heard it claimed that it was worth playing. Although, that came with a "the plot is incoherent and the character writing is kind of bad, BUT". Supposedly it's better than the rest of EE additions, but not that much better.
But yeah, it's Beamslop. Possibly the very peak of Beamslop, where they had the most experience with the system, but it's not part of the real Baldur's Gate series. Feel free to skip it, most people do.
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>>545545529
starfield came out the same year swen's game did, who also mogged the ff mainline that came out a few months before
idk what you'd consider exp33, but i can't see that not counting if vtmb2 does on your list
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>>545545750
actually embarrassing level of samefagging
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>>545545624
The anons obsessed with Sawyer here legitimately do think he's making all their games
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>>545545823
expedition 33 is jrpg coded
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>>545545529
The last good ARPG that wasn't KC was Skyrim
You can ponder upon this fact
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>>545545794
Yes. It is the first natural god in Eora though there was a hint in Deadfire that there may be another. It was formed slowly overtime and the main gods do not like it.
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>>545536684
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>>545541453
>DA4
District Attorney?
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I didn't even know who Sawyer was before I started browsing here.
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>>545546227
I think anons just hate him because he dislikes romances
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>>545539646
>>545540640
Never touched those games, but what did they change, characterization wise?
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>>545546227
He’s one of the goats unironically
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>>545546391
I don't hate him, I just find him funny
In general the whole Obsidian situation is tragicomedy
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>>545545927
Elden Ring
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>>545546227
he's someone who likes fishsticks
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>he knows who Sawyer is
>he doesn't know who Brian Fargo is
the very state
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>>545546501
Elden ring is not an RPG come on anon
It's an action game with a touch of rpg elements
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>>545546414
Almost nothing that you'd notice or care about, that anon is deranged and has all kinds of nonsense living rent-free in his head
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>>545545529
>Travelling at Night
>Dark Heresy
>WFRP crpg
we're fine
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>please talk about my favorite rockstar dev
>my rockstar dev could bench your rockstar dev
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If Sawyer is a rockstar, what does that make Avellone
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>>545547014
he's a chud
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>>545547014
weird band manager that tries to fuck the underage fans
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>>545541453
I still don't know what they were thinking with Taash, specially making her a Qunari of all things, were gender is anything but an issue. They don't give a fuck about that, since their whole caste system is a wacky theocratic very spartanic meritocracy kinda of deal.
If they wanted to pull a token tranny, they could have just made her a darkspawn victim who masked her "womanhood" to avoid being raped and turned into a Broadmother, would have been much more fitting than whatever they did there.
And Isabella of all girls feeding her mental retardation was foul. They gave my girl her most sexo getup to date, but ruined her face and personality
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Inxile proves that Brian Fargo was the only actually talented person in that sphere and that tim cain and sawyer are overrated.
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>>545547156
Taash was a self insert for the writers gender issues
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>>545547014
a bit over-rated, has name recognition, high on his own farts
Many could write as well or better than him, but who would want to spend that talent on bideogames
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LiteralWho proves that Some Guy was the only actually talented person in that sphere and Other Guy and Faggot Guy are overrated.
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>>545547287
I don't understand how you can have gender issues in the year of our lord 2025. I can understand having them 200 years ago when gender roles were very strict. But now? You don't have gender issues - you're just mentally ill
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The custom navigator doesn't even have a 3rd eye. Immersion RUINED.
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Tim bros, we stay winning
The wise faggot watches as the lion and the tiger kill each other
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>>545547287
Im glad DA died so he can't make it even more trans
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>>545547242
I've seen a lot of Cain's and Sawyer's videos, and I would say for sure Tim Cain is overrated, though he also seems like someone capable of pushing through bullshit and actually getting things done in a down-to-earth way. But some of his takes are hot garbage.
Sawyer seems like he has really good thoughts on the business of shipping a game and lots of design ideas.
Brian Fargo comes across as the real shit though, I find myself aligned with everything he says in the videos I've seen.
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>>545547693
seeing how he was lead for outerworlds 1 and comparing that to wasteland 2 and 3 im 90% sure Brian Fargo was behind all the actually good stuff in fallout and tim is a hack fraud.
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>>545547889
can't believe I was made fun of for watching critical role but you fags will unironically spend your time watching old men talk about their thoughts on rpgs
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old men running the world
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For me it's Stygg.
He mindbroke redditors (some that post here) simply by being a christfag and mentioning Hyperborea, Atlantis and co. in his game sending plebbit schizos into a frenzy thinking it's le nazi dogwhistle.
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>>545547693
>>545547889
every time I see Tim I think of this
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>>545547830
>>545547287
The thing with this guy is that xe wrote some of the best parts of BioWare games. Tresspasser, Mordin, Miranda and Jack and then xe had a mental breakdown and is now a they/them
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>>545548253
>Hyperborea, Atlantis and co. in his game sending plebbit schizos into a frenzy thinking it's le nazi dogwhistle.
Why do people think this? Those were from Ancient Greek writings and there many who talked about them, researched them before and after the Nazis. Hell outside of Himmler and co. most nazis didn't care about that.
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>>545548253
Stygg's hacking mini game in Underrail 2 is one of the finest displays of autism I've seen in CRPGs.
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>>545548253
Sseth jerks it to his pfp at night
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I wish this asteroid would hit Mars
Shake things up a bit
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How much longer until iron towers lovecratian iron age game comes out? I want to play age of decadence but with magic.
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>age of decadence
Objectively a bad video game btw.
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>>545548076
what should I watch, young men eating tide pods or whatever you zoomies do now?
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>>545548253
idk I just thought underfail was a bit shit in general, I don't know or care about who made it, but he either needs to get English tutoring or hire someone to do the writing
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>>545550170
>whatever you zoomies do now?
Harrass people who slightly annoy us into becoming lolcows then spamming tons of slurs, then watching a video essay documenting the literally who's breakdown that somehow had a million views.
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>>545550170
porn
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>>545548513
>Why do people think this?
Because they're dimwits raised on a strict diet of american popculture
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>>545550751
so 4chan/SA 20 years ago?
damn you really are a hopeless lot with nothing to offer the world
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>>545549870
>lovecratian
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath would make for a fine roadtrip crpg. Lovecraft wasn't just "fishpeople lmao"
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>>545551252
>you get a cat pet
>you can name it whatever you want
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>>545545794
the adra network below the LL was disconnected kinda like how galawain's little death island is, enough souls got there that a natural made god was born.
Woedica saw it and locked the poor cunt down.
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>>545548253
I love the one singular underrail fan desperately trying to get people here to go defend his favourite game on reddit
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We are done with Obsidian and we are done with bioware and the whole 90's- early 2000's era. its time for larian, owlcat ,styg, iron tower and tactical adventures
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>>545551252
I wish he had time to really finish that story. The travelogue parts were incredible, very good atmosphere. The battle scenes were much less interesting.
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>>545543201
I thought he was persona non grata there? who's feeding him this intel?
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>>545552676
I think since the chick who accused him got caught lying he is fine now.
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>>545548375
Why this happens so often now? The tartakovisky brothers made a kino trilogy, went retarded and then made a shitty sequel that had nothing to do with the OGs, why?
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>>545553129
cia mind fucked them
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>>545548513
Because we mindbroke plebbitors into thinking this. Same shit with moonman, milk drinking, the ok sign and more. We trolled them too hard, and now we can't even joke about things without being labeled nazis.
I think we fucked up, bwos..
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>barely get through bg 1 and 2 because of how fucking slow they are and how janky the pathfinding is constantly
>on a whim decide to play icewind dale but install a bunch of mods that add recruitable companions in the world and scattered small sidequests from the beamdog forums
>it's far more fun
what the fuck
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>>545458683
Canon 40k looks.
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>>545548375
all that shit is reddit. only decent writing was the renegade choices and the hot women without daddy issues
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>>545548253
This attempt to rewrite history is embarrassing, there was a single thread on that like 4 years ago.

Styg is mostly an embarrassing loser who had a multi month mental breakdown that led to him seething over Baldurs Gate 3 on twitter. He also nerfed psi builds in Underrail, made it so that modding the game is impossible on purpose, and has made Infusion to look like overcomplex garbage.
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>>545507557
>>protects the Sword of Valor for you
he only does this if you bring him to grey garrison right? or does he show up at drezen as long as you show him the light? I'll need to find the flag for this before drezen if it's the former. I fucked my order up in act 1 and don't want to go back.
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>>545554050
he makes games you arent marrying him not a single legitimate complaint about gameplay in there
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>>545554050
>who had a multi month mental breakdown that led to him seething over Baldurs Gate 3 on twitter
Qrd?
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>>545521496
I can't think of any reactivity in dos2.
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>Lovecraft inspired game
>takes place in a desert wasteland
What is iron tower thinking?
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>>545507557
>gets gangbanged by weak demons
>singlehandedly responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands
>doubles down and starts going "um actually burning children is based I'm going to be sure to burn this child when we take over you can't IMAGINE what's coming liberal"
>kill him
>no alignment penalty
>nobody cares
the universe itself says that Hulrun is a dumb chud and that killing dumb chuds has less negative moral weight than kicking a flower.
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thoughts on voidship battles?
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>>545554050
>Styg is mostly an embarrassing loser
He's made a successful game with a cult following. You on the other hand are on anonymous imageboard seething about your betters. The only loser here is you
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>>545554296
what is the 10000IQ game design genius behind making crafting the most important aspect of your game, making it so that the player has to spend hours of real time playing RNG slots to wait for vendors to refresh for vital crafting components, then when most of the playerbase circumvents this with a mod that allows for forced vendor refreshes having a meltdown, obscuring the games code so that nobody can mod the game anymore, then smugly masturbating about this to a circle of discord sycophants?
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>>545553419
>fucked up
If you can't do anything without being labeled a nazi then the term nazi has no meaning. The entire appeal is delving into how neurotic normalfags can get.
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>>545531776
I have no interest in DH but am moderately interested in the expanse.
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>>545554950
I grew to like them, but then I got bored of them. Once you figure them out they cease to pose any threat or challenge and become an annoyance
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>solasta devs confirm you wont be able to side with the elf nazis this time but you will be able to side with evil factions
good im tired of the trend where rpgs railroad you to be a good guy.
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>>545546065
haha...
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>>545554050
Stygy has a Sseth video about his work (You) don't
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>>545555038
it's extremely funny that anytime someone critiques underrail in this thread styg (who was confirmed years ago to lurk here) immediately begins going "um what have you accomplished???" in a desperate attempt to defend his shit game.
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H*mans are an invasive species to solasta that literally belong in another reality. the elves have done nothing wrong.
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How would Yrliet react if during the save the Aeldari quest the lower deckers instead of killing the Eldar refugees, trannyfied them against their will instead?
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What's some setting fluff you think is lame?
For me, it's D&D dragonborn not actually being related to dragons.
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>>545555038
>>545555375
>an anon shit on underrail
>deploy ze discord bots
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>>545547315
Let's be real he's still one of the best vidya writers. I agree he was too full of himself which made him faggy but it wasn't unearned. Even on his way out he dropped Nok-Nok on us. I hope he does return to write for games but I also hope he savored that humble pie properly.
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Is Styg pro-romance or anti-romance?
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Wotr but with PvP party builder, yes or no?
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>>545550751
that's a cool dragon
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>>545556045
>casts dispel
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>>545556048
That one schizo that used to post here years ago who argued that the decline of fantasy is directly correlated with the lack of dragons was right.
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>>545526747
as a chud, I only play CRPG for 2 things, hot women and autism character building. I don't why you play, is it the story??? just read a book lol
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What makes this general so attractive to schizos?
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>>545556664
is this the only general you visit or something?
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>>545556664
no need to advertise you're new to 4chan
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>>545556664
First time in a general? This is one of the more tame ones surprisingly.
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>>545556664
>he thinks this is schizo territory
this is why they say to lurk moar
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>>545556774
>>545556903
>>545556970
>>545556980
No, the others are relatively normal: space marine 2 general, total war general (we had ratschizos in the past but they are gone), hearthstone general, only /wowg/ has some schizos, but they are mostly coomers and dramafaggots regarding the general's guild which I am not a part of
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>>545557027
>the only /twg/ cancer he can recall is ratfags
yes, see >>545556903
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A fine evening for playing a role, wouldn't you say?
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>>545557027
>total war general (we had ratschizos in the past but they are gone)
the game is dead so it doesn't count (and I still blame the ratfags)
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>>545557027
the others I use*
>>545557128
besides them, beastcoomers and froggy and athena visiting, nothing else is that bad
e-celeb ball washers are annoying, but they aren't scchizos
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>>545557027
hearthstone general is basically a /biz/ colony, if that's normal to you you've already gone too far
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>>545556664
This is nowhere near as bad as actual schizo generals with gore/cp/scat spammers like the fire emblem or final fantasy generals
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>>545556664
/crpgg/ is full of bitter old men
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>>545557027
Someone send this man to /xivg/ on the double.
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>>545557479
as it should be
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>>545557027
>only /wowg/ has some schizos
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Today I play the role of the /vg/ expert
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>Why do they call you the "watcher"?
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>>545557605
i was there when we had 1000 post limit threads on a 30 second timer
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>>545555847
noknok was reddit incarnate. it was a shit way to go
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>>545557027
Unless someone here writes a bot that spams the thread so hard we have to stop making them it'll be far from the worst general I've been in.
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>>545557545
hell yeah brother
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>>545557985
shit taste
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1,800 year old Drukhari x 18 year old imperial guard twink
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>>545558110
At least you admit your taste is shit. That's a good start
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Romances should have a CHA requirement, a gold requirement, and a character height requirement
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>>545558213
>n-no u
what's your favorite crpg character?
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Is solasta woke trash?
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>>545558440
No, it's boring trash
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>>545558356
For me it's Morte
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
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They need to make a Rick and Morty CRPG
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>>545558641
Outerworlds 2, there is literally a "both sides are stupid nothing matters we are enlightened scientists" faction.
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>>545558558
shit you got me there
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>>545558845
>you need to solve the riddle
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>>545558498
What is a good crpg to you then?
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>>545559020
Fallout 1 and 2
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Reminder that the dogshit game with 0 romance flopped.
If it had romance we would see at least a 15K peak.
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>>545559230
now check veilguard's
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>>545559569
Had romance, actually sold, deathmogs the crap with cuck devs who hate their fans any deny them elf milfs.
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>>545559754
>over 10 years
>hundreds of millions of dollars
Hahahahahahahaha
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>>545559754
kinda crazy that it doesn't even have 1k players, Rogue Trader have almost 6k currently and there's nothing really new atm
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Freud was right the giant predatory reptile keeps manifesting in every cultures mythology for a reason. The dragon represents the gaint cold unfeeling alpha predator, an unstoppable force of nature on a primal level that humans understand to remove the dragon from fantasy is to remove the fear and true sense of danger from it. The dragon is THE top of the pyramid fantasy predator and there is a reason why only the greatest heros could slay them in classical mythology they represent the apex and are near God like figures (there is a reason alot of cultures have dragon gods especially warrior cultures like the Mayans). To lack dragons is to lack a true sense of danger and fear to give to your player in your fantasy setting. And without danger fear and risk your setting feels hollow.
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pseud
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>>545559754
this is not something to brag about
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>>545560230
>that image
Man world of darkness gets like 20 times cooler the second you stop focusing on the vampires, to bad we are stuck with vampire VNs and maybe another shitty attempt to make bloodlines again for the rest of out lives.
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Dragons are dumb and boring. The whole metallic and chromatic shit makes them 10x worse too, so absolutely stupid, like something I would have thought up when I was 12.
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>>545560506
It gets 20 times more cringe
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>Camellia is evil!
>Camellia is a psychopath!
>Camellia kills and eats people!

Yes, and? Do you have any actual arguments or just knee-jerk emotional responses?
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>>545560230
>The dragon represents the gaint cold unfeeling alpha predator
hmm nah I see plenty of average land-dweller weaknesses: eyes, wing fibers, suffocation
meanwhile no one knows how to fight a colossal squid or octopus, lovecraft had it right
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Camellia cucks you
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>>545560587
You fear the apex predator and those who can kill or tame it.
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>>545560587
I'll hold off calling you retarded, but what do you think is a good monster creature then.
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The reddit capeshit game that retard is spamming has a cuck romance in it btw
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>>545560506
Just play shadowrun
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>>545560798
Jobs to leviathans which are just sea dragons.
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Every romancable woman ever in any game cucks you. The fact is, a lot of other players "romanced" and fucked your dollie waifu. You're all cuckolds.
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The dragon represents my peanis
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>>545560808
camfags view this as a pro, not a con
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>>545560798
>lovecraft had it right
Nah, he missed the worst part of killing octopi. It still being able to move even if it is chopped up.
>>545560953
Not even lol. BB broke up with Phenomaman before you two even hook up. They even bothered clarifying things because they broke up since the guy is a literal alien and she doesn't see a future with him since she probably would want a family down the line. They didn't even fuck because his alien genitals aren't compatible. They were ahead of you.
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>>545560830
No, it's "hurr durr ice world, lava world" tier toddler design.

>>545560904
medusas and draculas to list two
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The dragon represents my anger lashing out at all the females cucking me in every game I play
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>>545560798
Get mogged, pussy.
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I felt more like a knight-commander in mount & blade than wotr
why did my generals get to have the fun battles
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You should be kissing the fucking ground setsuna shy walks on, Mr. Knight Commander!
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>>545561493
Reminder that some rock monk has killed more demons that you ever will.
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The blue whale is an accurate representation for the exact shape and size of my penis.
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What if the character was the apex alpha dragon?
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>>545562089
are those dragon breasts
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>4e art
disgusting
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>>545562089
bg3 has dragon people with cock physics and it sold 50 billion copies
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>>545560693
let me guess your going to seethe about hunter BVLLS again?
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Dungeons and Dragons...?
Yeah how about just Dungeons actually instead
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>>545562249
leather general is two threads down
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>>545562245
I have no idea what that means. wod is cringe and I have never played it because of how fucking cringe it is.
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>>545562249
You a performance artist?
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dungeons and giants
dungeons and gnolls
dungeons and kobolds
dungeons and rats
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>What if the character was the apex alpha dragon?
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>>545562249
that's basically heroquest which is just baby's first tabletop RPG
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Dungeons and Degenerates
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>>545559754
>660 players
What went so wrong bros
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>dragons are le bad acktually
Soulless.
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>>545562089
scalie gross
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Dungeons and More Dungeons
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>>545562423
dungeon and orcs
dungeons and goblins
dungeons and skeletons
dungeons and mummies
dungeons and slimes
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>what if the hero was a dragon but not a dragon?
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Dungeons but get this... in space
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Crpgs that have dragons coming out in 2026
>solasta 2
>legends of the round table
Crpgs with the possibility of dragons
>secret of the weepstone
>banquet for fools
>swordhaven
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>>545563069
U-uh? Whoah....
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for me, I don't mind dragons, but I gotta have my dungeons.
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If it doesn't have a dragon, is it really an rpg?
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>>545563440
No, it's in the name. (d)ragon playing game.
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>>545563440
Thats just sci-fi instead of fantasy.
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There’s never been a real crpg because none of them allow you to romance a dragon
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>>545563724
What the FUCK
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>>545563724
>>545564074
Was thinking about that and no WRPG really does that. Can't fuck Flemeth.
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>>545564074
>Terendelev didn't even get a portrait
truth is the game was rigged from the start
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>>545562542
Hey, that's us!
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>>545560798
>meanwhile no one knows how to fight a colossal squid or octopus, lovecraft had it right
Just stay out of the water
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>>545563676
Even RT has dragons.
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>>545564074
Why do you think anyone wants to see your slop
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>>545564337
C'Tan = Dragons
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Shadowrun has proven just because its futuristic/sci-fi doesnt mean you cant add dragons.
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>>545562568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzTIEBZSxQ
this is low hanging fruit, but it still a sign of a deeper rot
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>>545559754
Get woke go br- uh top of the charts
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>>545564663
Never cut a deal with one though.
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Not my single player game subscriptions…..
MY CHARTS
WE NEED MORE LIVE SERVICE
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How did he do it?
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>>545567242
>>545567242
bear sex
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>>545567242
Think of how much more charts this would be with a battlepass
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>>545567242
first crpg romance with confirmed bush
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>>545567242
>has a budget
>cutscene direction is like DA/ME
>actual complexity for normalcattle after they’ve been fed nothing but Ubislop open world shit for years when it comes to RPGs
>no season pass bullshit
>multiplayer
It’s not an anomaly, it filled a niche that was empty.
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>>545567242
Everyone's gooning to the fem astarion mod
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>>545554737
He's literally killed at the fair during the AP btw, and then a worm demon skinwalk with his body.
I am surprised that it wasn't the case here, it would have made sense on why he would burn random people while demons rampaged through kenabres
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>>545513669
So does Iomadae since he kept his inquisitor magic lol
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>>545568383
Owlcat needed some law/chaos "moral dilemma" I guess.
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>>545555641
Smite (Evil) doesn't work against evil people anymore in Pathfinder 2e, only against subtype of extraplanar creatures (Mostly demons, of which, most haven't be brought to 2e due to OGL)
Good dieties got weak, yadda yadda
That's why Good Champions kinda suck compared to Evil Champions now, since Smite (Good) works against a bunch of subtypes
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>>545555641
I really hate that werewolves in WoD are tree huggers by default
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>>545556664
This one is kinda safe, most generals always have a schizo spamming BBC porn or scat
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>>545555641
The idea of eternals in Divinity as it derails previously established lore and just feels like a cheap copy of two other franchises already doing it. Soul Vampirism is cool though, the idea that the last thing you see at the end of your afterlife is your own god eating you is fun.
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>>545569042
Dont encourage them
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>>545557563
Based.
>PSO2 still on it
Man this image is old, I miss when Phantasy Star had people
>>545555847
He apparently wrote some dialogues in WOTR since he's credited to it. Wonder if he had a hand on Arelu verbose rants
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>>545562568
It's a single player game with no replayability, shitty character customization and no modding support, what did you expect?
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>>545562245
NTA, but what?
>>545560230
Hunter and Aeons are cool. I like how in the first editions, hunters were basically contract killers browsing rumor lolcow forums like /x/ threads and kiwi while searching for the paranormal
Werewolves can be cool too
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>>545569651
both have games but only the hunter games are good
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I'll bake the thread when we're on page 10, don't worry
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>>545564193
Come home, white man
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/776
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>>545570125
how horribly written is this
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>>545567242
You can flirt and sex with your co-op partner.
You can also fuck npcs while you co-op partner watches.
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>>545570125
>fanfic
>not companions
eeeeeeeeh
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romance dolly niggas lusting over some ghoulish devs OC lmaoo
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>>545570350
Is kinda cute, currently playing it on my demon run. Noticula keeps showing up during your sleep and drag you into dates
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>>545570489
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Terendelev
She's canon tho
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>>545570489
How do you create a character without it being someone’s oc
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>>545571070
>>545571070
>>545571070
bread
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>>545570125
i'm not white
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>>545560230
I support your post, I love dragons
I don't have reasoning for it, I just think they're cool



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