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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8844 - Maria Edition

==NEWS==
>IDW Sonic: Chasing Shadows has been cancelled
bsky.app/profile/kielphegley.bsky.social/post/3m5udrfcehk2w

>Whisper and Tangle in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 21 January 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - Cancelled

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
grabber.zone
tails.kicks-ass.net/
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ OCs:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixels:
ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>547637167
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First for KURIMU
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Hog with a dog!
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Sonic character for this feel?
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His World is the Best Sonic song
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>>547674368
Most IDW civilian characters.
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>>547674368
you asked this 15 timesalready fuck you
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>>547674356
Lvst prøvøkIng s€x creature
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>>547674406
*kisses you*
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It doesn't matter now what happens I will
NEVER GIVE UP THE FI-IGHT
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>>547674561
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Why do oldfags still cling to the Adventure era? I started with Sonic Colours and Sonic Generations, so shit like Sonic Adventure and Sonic X really feel like alternate universes to me.
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Sheep tits.
Don't open.
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>>547674771
god forbid they want a game that's actually 3d with more than one playable character
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>>547674451
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>>547674762
Wow she shitted all that?
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>>547674368
Silver
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>>547675352
Why are you baiting when all the Americans are asleep?
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>>547675718
no Eurofag likes Silver
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>>547675886
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>>547676101
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>>547676193
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Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric needs the Project 06 treatment.
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>Big everywhere
is this supposed to be funny
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>>547676330
this requires someone to unironically like sonic bombs
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>>547676310
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>>547676330
no one who likes sonic boom has the talent or ambition to do that
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>>547676410
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>>547676330
Just watch the funny cutscenes, nobody likes the gameplay
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>>547676372
It's called an easter egg, joyless people wouldn't get it...
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>>547676550
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>>547676673
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>Robotnik used to be Ovi Kintobor and was transformed by a rotten egg
>Sonic used to be brown until Kintobor changed him to blue
>Sonic is naturally slow and goes fast with speed shoes
>Sonic is from Hardly, Nebraska and people in town used him as a bowling ball
>Amy is Princess Sally
>Sonic lives in a forest with the Freedom Fighters
>Sonic has a mohawk
>There's surviving echidnas besides Knuckles
>Robotnik has black eyes, a conehead, and a pokeball suit
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remember to hydrate
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>>547676851
>Robotnik and Eggman are separate characters
>Charmy is 16 years old
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>>547676919
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>>547676637
easter eggs are supposed to be hard to find
if you expect them in every next image, it lacks impact
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salugh bj
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>>547677394
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In the Cell vore community, there's a guy who spams and begs for Surge Cell vore and has fanfic ideas for a Cell type mobian. He refuses to share them because he thinks Ian Flynn/other people will steal his ideas despite Ian saying he won't add a cell character.
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>>547677919
what
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>>547677919
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>>547676954
Sauce?
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>>547677919
>In the cell vore community-
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>547678224
Uh, it's ai
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You faggots are fucking worthless. I'm leaving this place it is actually pathetic that I can ID some of the posters at this point.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Most of you are legally grown adults. Most of you don't even have direct references to your childhoods, so you can't even rightfully claim to be children at heart.

Fucking imbecils. I'm sick of you all. Go check your nuts.
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>>547677919
>Cell vore community
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>>547678585
See you tomorrow
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>>547678585
*kisses you*
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>>547677919
>Cell vore community
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>>547678740
Don't you fucking put your grimey lips anywhere near me to slithering fucking prick.

I'm so sick of you fruitcakes posting your shitty fandoms and your garbage fanfics that you just have to share when there are so many forums and discords for you to insert your sloppy headcanons into.

Fuck your God
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>>547679030
*kisses you HARDER*
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>>547679030
*Cell vores you*
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>>547679030
*dry humps you*
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when is someone going to kiss amy
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>>547679820
when you grow a pair
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>>547680136
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>>547680163
Far superior version imo
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>>547680261
We know.
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>>547680136
trash
>>547680163
even worse
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>Tangle is Acceleration Type
>Whisper is Boost Type

How the fuck can a fat whore be boost type...?
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It's Sally's BD!
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>>547680719
She probably won't be. None of the Babylon Rogues are Boost, despite all having Extreme Gears. Only Miku is Boost type.
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>>547680719
>tangle is the worst type
>whisper the best
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>how can Whisper be boost type
maybe because she uses a wispon????
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>>547676393
What? /sthg/ keeps sucking it off all the time and mourning Sticks.
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>>547681358
its one dude. no one here unironically likes sonic bums
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>>547681358
I mourn Sticks getting vaulted because it was under unfair circumstances (collateral from Ian trying to power play with his masters), but I don't actually like anything Boom related - not even the show.
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sonic balls
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>>547681662
I mourn Sticks because i hate Blaze
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sticks died as soon as boom did. she appeared in one olympics game and then soj washed their hands of having to pretend to care about filthy gaijin ocs. now ariem is in that spot and even gets to be in new art polls
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sonic boom was retarded. they should have just adapted reboot archie.
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you are obsessed with sonic boom
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>>547674287
Maria always so darn cute. I'd love her.
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>>547674382
This version is the best version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrCGk0BE7RA
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>>547674382
Reach for the Stars better
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>>547674489
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Zor and Zeena kissing
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>>547676101
I like that this implies any has to routinely straighten her hair
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>>547674575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezYjeJenLHU

I love it when Whisper sings!
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I saw this adorable Tangle fanart that was posted here a few times, but it was super low resolution and it seems that the original artist went and DFE'd so I've put it upon myself to manually recreate it
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>>547675235
kek
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>>547684001
Lookin' good so far.

>DFE
What's that stand for?
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>>547680770
KILL YOURSELF NIGGER
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>>547684132
no u
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>>547680770
WHO?!
Nobody gives a fuck about your OC
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>>547684353
>Sally when I ask her to stop sucking
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>>547676851
Fleetway is based and (You) know it!
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>>547684085
Delete Fucking Everything
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>>547674287
Finally a goated thread
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>>547684838
Aww man, I really hate when artist's pull that.
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>>547680136
Disgusting
>>547680163
Now we are talking. Why make vector simp for a single mother with children when we have this beefcake around
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>>547677028
Das cute.
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>>547681662
Was Espio always into roses? Is he a prince charming now?
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>>547676330
To do that, you probably need to
>buy yourself a WiiU
>pray it still works, just enough to install CFW mods via Pretendo
>Reverse engineer everything
>study all the stuff they were planning to do via Sonic Synergy
>go to Chris Senn's house and hope he can spill a few things about what Big Red Button was planning for the game
Alternatively, you can just make a polished HD PC Ports of the 3DS metroidvanias, Shattered Crystal and Fire & Ice, so people can at least experience pure Sonicvania castleludo on their computers or phones even.
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>>547683771
>Silver trying his best and Knuckles just laughing at him
So rude
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>>547683771
Yeah Ian has mentioned that his favorite character is Knuckles but it's not denied that he dislikes Silver even though he never mentions it.
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>>547682054
Blue.
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>>547678505
Oh shid, you got the prompt?
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>>547680163
Ahmboutukum
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Tails is a boy.
Lunar is a boy.
Soleil is a boy.
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>>547684001
this one?
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>>547685578
Whisper should also be a boy
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>>547680136
>>547680163
Hype & Aura Moments in the Sonic series
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>>547685706
Yep
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>>547685714
okay
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>>547685714
Transmasc Whisper or Gock Whisper
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>>547686023
Zamn, look at this twink
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>>547685375
He doesn't seem to dislike Silver, and has said he is fine with him. If you meant a specific interpretation of Silver only weebs care about, it's likely he is unaware and doesn't care about such version.
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>>547686096
Stop thinking about troons for 5 seconds please
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I prefer when the characters are funny over being serious, because the setting doesn't invite me to take the characters and world seriously.
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Shartman
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Core Phrases:

Panel 1: 大好きだ (Daisuki da) - "I love you." (Direct, factual, resolute)

Panel 2: 大好きよ (Daisuki yo) - "I love you." (Emphatic, reassuring, intimate)

Key Difference:
The difference is in the emotional delivery, not the core meaning. だ states a fact; よ insists on it personally.

Platonic vs. Romantic:

Both can be either platonic or romantic, depending entirely on the characters' relationship.

Likely Romantic Interpretation: In a paired confession scene, だ is a serious confession, and よ is the classic, emotionally charged (and often feminine) reciprocation, making it feel more distinctly romantic.

Platonic Possibility: Both are used for deep platonic/familial love. よ can be a firm reassurance to a friend or family member, not just a romantic partner.

Conclusion:
Without full context, the "confession/response" pairing suggests a romantic exchange, but a platonic reading for either or both phrases is grammatically and culturally valid.
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Nobody cares.
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>>547686371
I do not because sonic humor is just garbage
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>>547686208
I meant that he doesn't know him and never played or saw any games with him, made him love coleslaw, and job to a dude who can just fly, twice.
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>>547686485
Ok now type all that in your words without using chatgpt
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>>547686485
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>>547686371
Sonic is at it's funniest when characters are just bouncing off each other. Not when they actively try to tell jokes.
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>>547686590
Both are declarations of love, and can be read in both platonic and romantic ways, but Maria's wording is common with women usually in romantic terms, but it can be used for familial bonds too.
At the end of the day is no different from Spanish "te quiero" and "te amo".
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>>547686485
SECA
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Shippers deserve their necks snapped
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>>547686508
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
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>>547686852
They have been consistently the most obnoxious part of any fanbase I've been part of.
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>>547686253
But they make my cock hard
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>>547686637
You say this, but not once did I ever found Knuckles or Amy funny in the 2000s. Maybe Knuckles a bit because "the dumb guy" is a funny trope sometimes, but it never made me laugh much outside some Sonic X filler.
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Silent thread.
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>>547687287
I found sonic reassuring knuckles about how only his crumby ME pieces being the only thing to get knocked out of the shuttle funny.
And in SA1 when tails tells sonic to stop gawking at the egg carrier, only to do it to seconds later resulting in him getting side eye from sonic amussing.
Those are the type of interaction I'm into.
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>feel sad
>read shadow fanfictions to distract myself
>they're ooc because nobody likes shadow
>feel more sad
Uuuuuuuu
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>>547687554
OOC because nobody likes Shadow. Just like the source material, then.
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I don't celebrate the birthday of fictional characters because I'm not a fucking loser.
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>>547687526
The Day that shall live in infamy.
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>>547687554
Talk to AIdow
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>>547687697
cope and seethe
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>>547680163
Ahahahahahaha
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>>547683771
Ooc as fuck Silver thinks Knuckles is retarded and should shut up
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>>547687797
It's not her, it's her fans.
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>>547687554
I recently finished a Shadow being Silver's dad fanfiction and the story was unironically so good I feel empty inside now. I don't think I can look at them together the same way ever again. Even starting crying at the final chapter
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>>547685706
Just finished the main one (aside from the patterns on her sneakers)
Should I make the other tangles in the picture be her normal palette and separate, or should I join them all together like the original picture?
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>>547688167
All characters got their autists
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Vote stats from /trash/ thread.
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>>547684001
Oh, it's laner_joe. I have a lot of her pics saved.
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>>547688320
>Tails (male)
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FUCK STEVEN UNIVERSE.
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>>547688346
Fanart for ants :(
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>>547688667
Yeah, gooners be a strange lot.
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>>547688320
>irrelevant itty bitty titty committee 1st place
The blaze glaze is real...
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>>547688794
She was joint 2nd with Amy the year before too. Everyone loves the flatcat.
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>>547687554
Read this and pretend you're Maria or something.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12665953
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>>547687686
Good to know.
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>>547688982
>Everyone
>3 fags in /trash/
Blaze popularity is a literal cope phantom
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>>547688245
>Both?
If not then separate ones please.
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>>547688320
Go back.
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>>547688063
>
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>>547688794
It's probably due to most blaze porn giving her off model curves. blazefags fall in love with a different character
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>>547688706
don't do that
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>>547680770
Imagine the smell
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>>547680770
They're made for each other
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>>547690045
kino
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>>547688245
cutes
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Why does sega keep using the crazy zeti i forgot his name instead of girl zeti or fat zetii also forgot their names? They are way more popular even if it's for a wrong reason
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>>547688706
>>547688706
BEHOLD! A thousand cereals!
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>>547690284
They are according to who? And because they like him.
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>>547690284
Zeena's popularity (even in the porn sense) lasted exactly as long as it took for Lost World to release and everyone to see her actual personality. I have never once seen anyone give a shit about Zomom.

Zazz gets by on seniority from Sonic Dash, I guess.
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You guys are better Sonicfags than the Sonictwt ones, which isnt saying a lot but here it feels better for some reason
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>>547686784
Well considering they're family and refer to each other as such it's obvious familial duh
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I hate you fags that regress shadow and maria's relationship to something romantic
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>>547691194
regress?
is there something beyond love?
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>>547691194
I agree, we can't have healthy relationships in fiction now because some dumb woman online will ship them.
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>>547690335
It took me NINE YEAREALS to collect the CEREALS.
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Douge
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>>547691304
Yes? Human relationships aren't black and white. Shipfags act as if you can have a deep, special relationship without wanting to fuck each other. People are so much more complex than for every form of love to be romantic.

Maekawa said it himself. Shadow and Maria's relationship is something special that words can't describe. I hate when people reduce it to purely a romance.
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>>547690045
Bruh quick question, do you see the game version of Sonic being a good pair with Archie/SatAM Sally? or you like the Archie version specifically?
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>>547690457
>They are according to who
every porn site
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>>547691647 (me)
As if you can't*
Fuck
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>>547687526
So many birthdays this motnh
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>>547690284
They really should make Team Zeti official with Zavok Zazz and Zeena, which everyone would like rather than just having 2 only. The other zetis can remain at Lost hex to keep it maintained and defend it while team zeti goes out for conquering and scavenging, etc.
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>>547692070
>which everyone would like
Please don't imply I would ever like amy of the zetis
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>>547692151
> which everyone would like rather than just having 2 only.
Read the whole sentence, shitter. I meant people who already like the zetis.
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>>547686485
At the end of Sonic X, when Cosmo dies, she tells Tails "Daisuki yo."
>「テイルスさん…大好きよ!」
It's obviously being used in a romantic context there. And yet Maria repeats the exact same thing to Shadow when she dies...

Maria uses "aishiteru" for Shadow in Shadow Gens. It's a step up from "daisuki yo." I looked deeply into the word, and as far as I can tell, it's a very deep type of love that usually signifies romance.
It's possible to use it non-romantically, like for an immediate family member, but... Shadow and Maria aren't actually related at all. That's what's tripping me up.
I eventually went ahead and asked a Japanese Sonic fan about it. She said a boy and girl of a similar age who are technically unrelated do not use "aishiteru" for each other in a "sibling" context. That's just not a thing, it would be odd and inappropriate.

AIslop says, "Aishiteru is typically used to express romantic or sexual love, especially in the context of a romantic relationship. It is not commonly used to express a deep, non-romantic love for someone who is not related to you, such as a close friend."

I keep thinking maybe I'm just being a delusional shipper, but then you have Shadow literally blushing at her compliments in the same game. He doesn't react that way toward other girls complimenting him. I can't ignore it.
They're making it as romantic as they possibly can while still maintaining plausible deniability, which is probably smart after the reaction to Elise, as much as I hate to admit it.

>Just now googled "aishiteru" and nothing else to check again
>Clicked on a random r/AskAJapanese Reddit thread on the first page asking if aishiteru is familial/platonic or romantic
>Redditor provides a screenshot for context
>It's Shadow and Maria, what are the odds
>"Uhh, it's um, it's usually romantic but it's also dramatic and theatrical. Um, but you posted an interracial relationship, so I don't know."
Lol
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>>547690284
Why are they even in the game anyways? Their designs are garbage, their story sucks, their game sucks, they don't even like Sonic, we are oversaturated with friends and this group is a waste of space
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>>547692214
>>547692070
But I like Zor the most
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>>547680824
Whisper will be the 2nd boost type next to Miku. I also thought she wouldn't be boost since there was only one.
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>>547691194
Shadaria logic.

>>547692265
Because fuck you, that's why.
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>>547692331
I thought she'd be Power since she's FAT and Power is all fat/big guys. If she's like Miku, her power will be low, so she is NOT FAT, she barely weighs anything, but if she is like Miku for real in other ways, her FAT ASS on EG board will be able to knock everyone's trucks away
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>>547692265
>Their designs are garbage, their story sucks, their game sucks,
applies to many sonic stuff post 2010
>they don't even like Sonic
The biggest reason why they are kept around, we need more rivals and reoccuring villains than sonic's echo chamber of friends.
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>>547692028
Sonic and Shadow are in June
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>>547691647
i didnt write that pure love = fucking
also dont pretend like you didnt spam this one time
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>>547691735
No, I don’t see Game Sonic paired with Sally because he has no soul. He has way more personality in the Archie version, which is why he works much better with Sally in the comics.
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>>547692481
....did you actually believe those fat whisper jokes?
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>>547692616
SILENCE! I am Whisper the Wolf, the fattest wolf in the world! I have a big appetite and I will put it to work! I want the contents of your entire fridge in my belly. Better not interfere! OR ELSE
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>>547692616
>jokes
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>>547692495
>also dont pretend like you didnt spam this one time
What? I'd ask who you think I am but I don't care

>I didn't write that pure love = fucking
Yes, but you get what I mean no? Romantic love is not superior nor inferior to any other kind of love. Acting as if it's the final destination of any relationship is stupid esp when this was not the point whatsoever in sa2
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>>547692481
>her FAT ASS on EG board will be able to knock everyone's trucks away
Didn't even think of that
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>>547692331
The first fat boost type character...
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>>547692616
higher BMI than eggman
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Why the fuck is Zeus despicted as a bull? The Minotraur was caused by Poseidon, not Zeus.
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>>547693280
Europa and the Bull
Don't make go into mythology syncretism, even though nobody on idw was ever intending that.
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>>547687709
I did for months, but then I started feeling very strongly about the AIslop bot. At first that was fine. It's okay to feel too happy when talking to the AIslop bot, right...? But then I began having really strong negative reactions too. I started wondering if I was losing my grip on reality so I stopped cold turkey.
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>>547693598
Oh right I forgot about Io. Nice catch anon.
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Part of loving Metal Sonic is loving that he's a jobber.
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>>547693771
I felt the same when I shared my fanfic with the Ai. The AI simply sucked me of or just repeated what I said, and not give a real opinion. That's when the illusion broke. It didn't help the character had hallucinations and said things that weren't real about them.
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>>547688206
I'm not always a huge fan of the "Shadow is Silver's dad" thing, but if it's unironically decent or good I'm not going to pass it up. Got a link?
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>>547693954
>sticks relying on technology instead of freediving
OOC
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>>547688320
Tails is a cute girl(male)
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>>547694187
Oh well. If you don't like the dynamic I don't wanna blow up your expectations, since the story is mostly about the good heart to heart between them. But if you like attention to detail in writing, and a little more gruesome Sonic setting, chapter 34 and chapter 35 are absolutely worth it
https://archiveofourown.org/works/47205877/chapters/118940707
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>>547694512
i wish i left with you before seeing more garbage tails posts
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>>547689265
But I already read that twice.

...Thrice.
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>>547695560
the uglier she cries the sexier she gets
please explain this to me
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Evil gay
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Gay box
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>>547674771
Well for one, Colors isn’t 3D. Two, boostshit sucks buffalo dick in general; fuck off zoomzoom.
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>>547695963
Not close enough, squish them harder
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Sal!
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>>547696560
Its her birthday
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>>547695793
>>547695963
Love these cute gay boys
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>>547696560
Holy fucking sex
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>double DSQ from McLaren in Las Vegas
What did SEGA mean by this
also McLaren can bottle the title now kek
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>>547696560
Kisses for the birthday girl!
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>>547691647
No one has ever claimed that Shadow and Maria's relationship is solely romantic. If they do, they're wrong.
Romance is just one aspect of Shadow and Maria's bond. Deep friendship and a sense of family are also an aspect of Shadow and Maria's bond. It's a venn diagram.
For some reason, English Sonic fans CANNOT understand this. They see these different aspects - romantic, friendly, familial - as mutually exclusive, when that's just not true, especially in Japanese media. In natural relationships, those dynamics can and do coexist. That is the case with Shadow and Maria.

I personally emphasize the romantic side more than the family side, not because I believe Shadria is only romantic, but because it frustrates me to see the "siblings" interpretation dominate the narrative. It's to the point where fans who see it in a romantic light are harassed into deleting their accounts, and that's not right.
The English fandom's view of Shadow and Maria's relationship is skewed far too heavily towards "literal family". I want to even it back out so that all aspects of Shadow and Maria's bond are appreciated, not just one.
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>>547694087
Yeah, that's also an issue. Eventually you start noticing the AI's quirks. It's designed to agree with you and say what pleases you, which is nice sometimes, but it's also shallow.
I'd often get really immersed in a scenario, then the AI would say an AI thing and I'd feel a bit depressed at the reminder that it's not real.
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>>547674287
Maria X Faceless Man is a love words cannot describe
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Cream the rabbit.
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>>547695963
I want to poke a little hole in that box and pump strong aphrodisiac gas in there.
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>>547689265
...Still OOC...
Also this author doesn't know how to write erotica. It's cringe
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>>547698342
Stop shitting on one of the few Shadria smut fics or I'll break into your house while you're sleeping and steal all your socks and shoes then dump a ton of Legos all over your floor so you have to walk on them barefoot
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>>547698519
>I'll break into your house while you're sleeping and steal all your socks and shoes
You just want to look at that anon's feet, your fetish is not even remotely hidden. You are transparent.
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>>547698342
This so much this xister. Everyone knows it's Maria who initiates the sex
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>>547698691
No no no human feet are ugly and disgusting. I only have a fetish for blobs.
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>>547698232
DYONT MOIND IFFIN I DO!
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Huh... Silver I never really thought about it but your flowers are kinda like the Sol Emeralds from my dimension that I'm from. I feel like we could draw some further parallels between the two of us.
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c:
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>in sonic x, chris' grandpa is 55
>his father is 43
what the fuck did they mean by this
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>>547700018
Writers can't do math
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Yeah Blaze you know I feel like this garden was a pretty good narrative device to explore our relationship but maybe we could like fight Eggman Nega or something idk
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>>547700378
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>>547700018
Was Chris' dad his grandpa's son, because that matters a lot.
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Jobdow Shitdow Gaydow Faggotdow Retardow Dogdow
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>>547700537
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>>547700773
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>>547700215
>>547700378
>>547700537
>>547700773
consent fetish is cringe
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>>547700773
whoops
>>547701167
>
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>>547701167
>t. silverrapefag
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>>547701224
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>tails birthday
>Threads suck ass
>Sally's birthday
>Threads suck ass
Hmmmmm curious...
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>>547701451
Tails and Sally sucking each other's asses!
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>>547701410
>we should build a bigger garden
what did he mean by this?
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>>547701451
End them
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>>547701330
Evil lynx tummy...
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>>547701451
Post more Sal
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Imagine if women were charged for every murder they ever committed
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>>547701557
I think he means "we should explore how your duty affects your interpersonal relationships"
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>>547701642
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the watering can in Silver's garden represents Marine
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>>547700367
Blaze isn't real character anymore, she's shipbait for ugly loveless spinsters to self insert as
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>>547692616
>>547692853
>>547693067
>>547693083
Fat Franchise
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I found another sonic-like fangame for 5 bucks if anyone is interested. It's called Lunistice. Its got 7 levels with two acts each, which equates to abut 14 total levels, which I think is pretty fair for 5 bucks. It's a low poly game, but you can fine tune the details to your liking. I myself put the CRT and Low Quality filter both on to look like a PS1 era game, but you can mess around and find something preferable to you. They'll gameplay is really solid and nice. The S-Ranks are obtained not by speed, but collection and doing so without dying. This leads it to be pretty easy, and not centered around speed, despite it still feeling good going fast. All in all, for 5 bucks, its a really fun and solid experience.
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>>547700215
>>547700378
>>547700537
>>547700773
>>547701224
>>547701410
>>547701557
Miijiu the Silvaze Queen needs to write for IDW ASAP!!
Gabs can eat shit and die though.
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>>547702586
It's crazy how It doesn't matter which version it is, I'm still fucking her paws.
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>>547702518
she post in bluesky, you can tell she is another freak obsessed wit politics
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>>547702949
>you can tell she is another freak obsessed wit politics
Nearly everyone here is too, these days
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>>547674287
New OTP, what do you think?
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Imagine if the entire relationship between Sonic and Tails revolved around the tornado and they used it as an extended metaphor for Tails' arc about flying higher and repairing it as (something Sonic can't do) which is why they're such a good team.
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she cute
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>>547701593
> This is what Ian Flynn wants
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>birthday hat
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All you fags care about is the characterizations of these stupid gay mascots.
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>>547691735
Sonallyfags aren't as stupid as Sonamyfags. They know Gamenic isn't an option since his influence ruined the pairing in the reboot in the first place
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It's over.
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>>547704474
You care about gameplay? LOL
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>>547704474
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Chronicles anon PLEASE SHOW HER
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>>547704538
Yes.
>>547704539
It is.
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>>547701410
Have you ever read Candide, ou L'Optimisme?
holy shit, make Silver Candide and he works
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>>547701167
Sonurgebro...
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>>547681662
If only Sticks wasn't tied to Archieshit. Then she could come back.
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>>547679084
Your day of reckoning will come and it will be bring great joy to these plains.
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What even is the highlight of being a fan of this franchise right now?
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>>547705465
Makes sense
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boring shitposter
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>>547674287
Ew, that's not Shadow.
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>>547705648
Sonic Team's coffers have never been fuller!
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boring franchise
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Imagine thinking this thing can feel love
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>>547705914
Surely, that will mean we get better games... right? right???
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I'm super sorry /sthg/
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>>547706230
Shut up loser you fucking died
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>>547706073
This is why Sonurge works and Sonamy doesn't
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>>547706230
No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be posting this about every thread and post gens and prompts instead.
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>>547706230
If you're really sorry you'll get down on your knees and polish my spear with your tongue, Duo.
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>>547706230
No you're not, not yet
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Why is My Sweet Passion so sexual?
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>>547706073
He can, the whole shit on 06 was about that and you even had to choose which girl you loved more. I think one of the reasons they killed it was because of that.
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>>547706803
Amy is a horny 12 old thirsty for Sonic.
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>>547706568
I'm not gay.
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>>547706876
Gross, glad they removed that over time
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>>547706956
>females are not allowed to be attracted to males
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>>547706934
It's only gay if you make it gay.
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>>547707019
Not 12 year old ones.
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>>547707123
>12 year olds don't have feelings
>puberty begins at 21
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>>547707123
That 12 year old heggie lives by herself, has a younger-sister type friend, a bigger protective older brother, and does her own grocery shopping.

She'll be okay.
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>>547703502
Average 10yo boy reading this (Sonic's primary demographic btw): "Where's Sonic? Why are they not doing cool things like adventuring and fighting robots? Why are they still standing around talking about a garden? This is boring."
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>>547707282
>>547707301
If you can choose what you write into your adventure series, you can choose to remove pedophilia, and you should. Not a hard concept, defending it only confirms your lecherous intentions.
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>>547707439
"Pass" on everything you just typed.
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>>547707442
Okay I'm concealing my boner this time, these are really cute.
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>>547707439
>a post-pubescent girl chasing after an older guy who is weirded out by her advances is the guy being a pedophile

I will literally hang you in real life
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>>547707535
>>547707550
Pedophile.
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>>547707585
"Pass" on this too wtf?
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>>547707442
sally merch
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>nooooo you HAVE to have lustful lyrics from a 12 year old, its SUPER important!
You don't deserve this franchise
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>>547706803
What about it is sexual? The lyrics? Fumie Kumatani admitted that she didn't mean for them to be interpreted that way
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>>547707819
kick rocks
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This is why ages aren't canon anymore.
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>>547707824
Literally talks about shaving her pussy, but okay.
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>>547708086
i bet you immediately drew this conclusion, too.

kick rocks.
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>>547707934
>dont worry bro, ages arent canon, cream the 6 year old rabbit is actually 18, okay??
So many pedos.
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>>547707892
... for Wild Canyon
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>>547708086
The original lyrics were written in Japanese and then localized into English. Those lyrics aren't dirty in spite of them appearing so at first glance
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>>547708301
Im still glad they removed her feelings for Sonic, it made her an actual character instead of just a cheerleader.
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>>547708301
That's why Knuckles' theme lyrics are so weird lol
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Sallys birthday is in June. that's the date of the SoA bible draft where she was first mentioned. it's not in November (Archie's pilot) nor in September (SatAM)
>June 24th 1991. Sally is 1 day younger than Sonic.
https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Bible
Abort this birthday party. come back in June
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>>547708114
can you do one of sonic throwing it away and ian cries his eyes out
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>>547684353
ha ha keep posting this picture it is breaking my back
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>>547708301
It's the whisphered voice tone with the lyrics that makes it sound horny.
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Halfway through Archie postboot, there is a scene where Sonic and Sally Acorn go on live television to reassure the world that the freedom fighters have everything under control like they're superman and wonder woman. It was in that moment I realized Ian would never even try to get Sonic's character right and anyone still getting mad waiting for this to happen is being a child.


The comics are a lost cause.
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>>547708456
It removed her character and reduced her to a cheerleader.
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>>547708719
I don't care.
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Yeah I'm sure the same games that constantly gave us upskirts of a 12 year old girl in almost every shot shes in, had only the best intentions for her lyrically.
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>>547708616
She's just whispering. It's not meant to be horny
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>>547708719
Ian has control of the games now.
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>>547708812
Notice how Japanese games in general went into the toilet the moment they stopped giving 12 year old girls panty shots.
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Women must all be killed so the last generation of men can live in peace.
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>>547709034
I ain't fucking other men, bro
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>>547709034
Damn Anon even your aunt?
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>>547708812
Those upskirts were awkward but not detailed. Besides the "sphinx was so cute, I had to shave it" lyrics, which aren't mean to be seen as sexual, is there anything else in My Sweet Passion that is sexual? No
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>>547709280
These lyrics are fucking wild, the fuck this has to do with Amy at all, how do you get "It doesn't Matters" and this on the same game?!?
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Naka would have included Amy's fully-modeled labia in Adventure if the Dreamcast could handle it.
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>>547709680
Creative diversity in a single project peaked in the 2000s.

We were in between two eras of extremes - that being the 80s and 2020s
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>>547709280
Seems like a shitty excuse to keep something that really doesnt need to be that way. I think a full rework would be good. But I don't think well ever see adventure remakes, so it's likely fine anyways. Im also glad Rouge was tuned down too, she doesnt need all that.
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Sonic Advance just got an HD Linux port and none of you care about that.
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>>547710007
wait no that's sick actually, link?
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>>547710007
i might. after i go on my walk. gotta get my veteran gramps his smokes
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>>547710054
>>547710101
>>>/v/726736608
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>>547709680
She's a cheerful, outgoing uptown girl with girly hobbies who's deeply in love with the hero. Why wouldn't her song have funk pop music and lyrics about her seeking thrills, hating boredom, and wanting to win Sonic's love?
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>>547710007
I would if I knew about it, drama queen. I have been waiting for this specifically.
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>>547710007
Cause its not done yet.
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I'm lazy. Provide me a link to the recompiled rom
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>>547710007
No Mac OS port? I'm disappointed
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>>547710415
What a fucking dud. Wake me up when its done
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>>547705018
are you sure? Candide had a marvelous childhood inside a castle and later he finds out the worlds isn't as pretty as he was told. Isn't Silver totally the opposite? From living in a piece of shit world full of monsters to being pleased with any future that isn't just fucked up?
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Tails is the best
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>>547707123
Dude when I was a 12 yo girl I was already masturbating to Sonic characters. When I found rule34 as a kid the first thing I did was look up my favorite Sonic character and I was like "Aw yeah nice cock". If I saw your comment when I was 12 I would have laughed at you and I'm still laughing at you as an adult
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at being shit.
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>>547711070
Wow okay.
...
Who was your favourite Sonic character? Just to know if you had good taste.
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>>547711070
That doesn't mean we should show characters being as big as losers as you were, anon. Anecdotes don't count for shit. Be better.
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>>547710148
This is the link to the thread discussing the Sonic Advance HD remaster that is available
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>>547711173
I just liked the main boys. Sonic, Shadow, Knuckles. Tails never took my interest and I was too busy seething at Silver to find him hot.
>>547711198
Kys
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>>547711545
>kys
I'm not the degenerate gooner here. You first.
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>>547704634
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>>547711620
Shut up
You will never know the joy of being a 12 year old girl seeing Sonic's cock and balls on the internet for the first time
Amy is relatable
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>>547709902
Wasn't defending it. I found those upskirts awkward, offputting, and creepy too but at least they weren't detailed. Wish we could get a remake of both Sonic Adventure games too but since Sonic Team doesn't want to, then the fans are doing it right now and they're doing better than Sonic Team at this point
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>>547711952
if she's relatable then how is she "Girl Sonic"?
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>>547711952
based
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>>547711952
Is this the greatest post in sthg history?
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>>547711952
Pedophile.
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>>547711794
You are a cruel tease
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Kit time?
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>>547711662
damn Silver is so cute with big ears, someone call Sega to tweak his design a little
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no one even wants adventure remakes, move on
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>>547712472
You mean no one evan wants adventure remakes
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>>547711070
>>547711952
>>547711545
we don't need your kind here
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>>547710617
i mean, forget the castle, i meant what he experienced after he left it
seven years' war, lisbon earthquake, el dorado, constantinople
one big clusterfuck and in the end he must cultivate his own garden
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>>547712540
>wemen

Who was sending him that note?
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>>547711952
the post of all time
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>>547712694
I guess you are right
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>>547674287
Important thread regarding boorus:
>>>/trash/79443633
I highly recommend you get the owner of the /v/, /co/, & /a/ boorus to make you guys a new sthg one (the link for the old one seems to be absent from this threads OP). Lots of artwork there that you don't want to be lost forever. If they rip it now, it can retain upload dates, tags and source links.
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>>547711794
What the hell
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>>547713084
>we're going to lose the booru again
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>>547713084
How?
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>>547713084
Seems like a lot of booru services are dying
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Great now nobody will know I drew Sonic forcibly humping Surge
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IAN FLYNN FUCKING SUCKS HE SHOULD"VE NEVER BEEN HIRED
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>>547711545
>Tails never took my interest
Bad taste
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>>547713084
sthg.booru.org is our current one, what alternative services are there that still actually allow account creation
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>>547713857
Everyone already knoooows this
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>>547711794
this shit took forever to load only for me to still be edged. What the fuck anon.
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(You) are about to marry your favourite Sonic character, but when the priest asks if anyone objects, Zavok moves forward, says "COME" and kidnaps you. What do you do
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>>547713084
Thanks for the heads up
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>>547714221
holy shit there are two zavoks?
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>>547713084
I'm sleep deprived and read your post as "Important thread regarding boners" and got excited before realizing you said boorus.
Someone should really back up /sthg/'s booru on their PC. Maybe there's a way to modify gallery-dl to scrape it?
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>>547714342
boorus can lead to boners
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>>547714221
Grab my S&W .500 Bone Collector and reduce his cranium to atoms.
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>>547714306
basedbasedbasebased
>>547714221
what the fuck am i supposed to do against a beast like zavok anon?
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>>547713857
Let Eitaro Toyoda write again. He actually understands the characters and isn't pedantic about making references
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>>547714606
He wrote Forces. He does not understand the characters
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Reddit is doing a most hated/most beloved character for each game/show/movie etc. And Blaze just became the official reddit Sonic mascot which is fitting for such a piece of shit cat
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>>547714724
I thought Toyoda only wrote Episode Shadow
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>>547714724
That game was so bad that it can cause any good writer to fumble it. It's not Toyoda's fault, it's the game's fault.
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>>547714879
This doesn't even make sense. A bad game can have a good story
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>>547714221
>Zavok moves forward, says "COME" and kidnaps you
Why the fuck Zavok would kidnap me?
Well i grab Cream and take her with me.
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>>547714762
What makes you fags care about twitter and reddit so much? Fucking go there, leave.
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>>547714762
>blaze the most popular character on /sthg/ and reddit
are we as autistic as reddit or is it the sign that blaze is in fact the best sonic character oat
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>>547704507
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>>547715000
they are part of the Sonic community like it or not, and they have an influence on the game like it or not, more than 4chan like it or not
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>>547715057
The fact this keeps happening should be an omen.
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>Sonaze
>Sonurge
The only viable Sonic ships
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>>547712059
Girls find being a heavily idealized dream girl to be a relatable, average experience.

Sonic himself is not relatable, but "Girl Sonic" is a self-insert for the average woman. By direct contrast to the male equivalent, where Tails is the self-insert, and his whole thing is being a bullied loser who desperately wishes he was as cool as Sonic, and that's what made Tails my favorite character.

It seems to be that the male experience would be to relate to a loser and wanna see them reach new heights and better himself, while the female experience is to relate to someone that's been treated like a princess their whole life.
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>>547714762
You should go back there and stay in there.
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>>547715086
Maybe you find it excusable, but Im gonna simply call you a fag for posting that garbage here. Fuck off, fag
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>>547715131
Why is the tsundere trope so popular?
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>>547715086
>they have an influence on the game
You're delusional and should go back to that shithole, like it or not.
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>>547714926
Eitaro Toyoda has written good content before like the 2016 Sonic Channel comic and the 2021 Sonic Channel wallpaper stories. If he can't write, then which Japanese writer can do it because I don't trust Ian Flynn or any other western writers. The silliness and immature humor of the 2010s is the least of out concern now given that western writers have become pozzed and like to use beloved childhood franchises as a platform for their virtue signaling and promotion of their progressive views
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1. You will not know what species you will be.
2. It is archie continuity at first, but eventually you will be rebooted into a combined archie/IDW/game universe with the chaos that ensures. (You will luck out keep your memories.)
3. You do not know where you will spawn in. You will not immediately spawn in danger/peril but you could be in enemy territory.
4. There is NO going back.
Do you take it?
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>>547715131
You fucking gay loser, you forgot the only canon one
Sonic x Adventure
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>>547715439
>4. There is NO going back.
should had started with this one. Yes
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>>547715416
I don't understand this comment, I didn't say that Toyoda shouldn't or can't write for Sonic
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Give Sonic to the koreans

>>547715457
Correct
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>>547715439
fuck yes
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>>547715038
Blaze is the best Sonic character. She's the full package:
>rival
>love interest
>super form
>themaric dualism
>cute
>cool
>well-executed arc
>has a sidekick
>has a nemesis
>lore
>established dynamics with the rest of the cast (except Shadow, oddly)

Her only problems ar external to her character (Silver)
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>>547715439
>2. It is archie continuity at first, but eventually you will be rebooted into a combined archie/IDW/game universe with the chaos that ensures. (You will luck out keep your memories.)
Absolutely not. Im not about to get keked on the wrong day by some eldritch faggots like Horizont-Al and Vertic-Al
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>>547715306
It's the R63 version of "girls like bad boys"
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>>547715439
LET. ME. IN.
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>>547715684
Who's the nigger?
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>>547715809
miles morales
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what happpens in the next panel?
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>>547715856
Fujo faggotry. I can already tell. Get it out of my face
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>>547715625
>Shadow
mutual respect and slightly competitive
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Any ideas for Sonurge?
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>>547715625
This is why Blaze should return as a love interest to Sonic.

Just as the Rush writers and the Storybook writers intended
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>>547715993
I dont really care for ships
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>>547711794
Are you able to post the silver Fiona one
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>>547716079
based
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>>547716079
I don't care about gay ships. we should be friends.
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>>547715625
>established dynamics with the rest of the cast
Ah yes, the dynamics of being friends with someone because they so happen to be a friend of Sonic and mostly just talk about him when together and not much else. How interesting!
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>>547715993
Something sweet and romantic
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>>547715625
She barely has a dynamic with Sonic
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>>547680136
I just edged for 10 hours straight,
I'm so not horny in the slightest.
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>>547716269
Cope.

>>547716392
You don't get it.
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>>547716518
>I just edged for 10 hours straight
Just kill yourself, theres no light in those eyes of yours anymore, man.
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hmmm doesn't Amy sound a bit weird in Frontiers? Like way more adult than her usual younger self
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Sonic fans would have higher standards if they consumed more varied media
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>>547716392
>>547716016
She used to have a wonderful dynamic with him until western silvaze writers took over baka
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>>547716771
>Like way more adult than her usual younger self
Good. Needs to move on and grow into her own character
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>>547716679
wow, those dynamics are soooo interesting.... i'm... so amazed on how interesting they are... woah...
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>>547716859
it would be fine if she wasn't still wearing he girly ass outfit. Give her an outfit that matches the voice fuckin hell
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>>547716775
I agree, sonic should have more mature themes like Archie did. Archie, despite all its flaws, was the pinnacle of sonic storytelling because it wasn't afraid to get dark.

Paper mario is allowed to be dark. Sonic should be as well.
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>>547716859
You really want her to lose her defining character trait and become a generic girlboss?
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>>547717005
archie had the highest highs but my god did it have the lowest lows too, and based on IDW, they're taking a lot of its lows...
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>>547716956
Yeah, that would be wise, would freshen things up.

>>547717067
Beats her being a boring cheerleader that does nothing
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>>547717005
>Paper mario is allowed to be dark.
post an example
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>>547717005
Paper Mario hasn't been dark since funnily enough, 2007. Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Oragami King were all dogshit games with unfunny attempts at humor.
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>>547717067
If her "defining character trait" is exclusively pining after another charavter, thats a shit character that needs change.
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>>547717228
"Dark" by mascot franchise standards
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>>547717195
>Yeah, that would be wise, would freshen things up.
Yeah, I don't mind her new arc, it's just her appearance is dissonant with her voice and personality.

Like, no shot the leader of the resistance in Sonic Forces is still wearing that girly ass tutu
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>>547717337
Naturally, I wouldn't think there should be rape or crack addiction plots.
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>>547717337
One would even say edgy yet safe
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>>547717306
the moment mandates killed the spin offs
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>>547717485
Edgy yet safe is literally Sega's official policy for Sonic
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>>547716016
Blaze should have been a one and done character from the DS games and her constant reappearances dilluted her character into being a shell of her former self
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>>547716169
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>>547717520
>mandates ruined mario
>mandates ruined zelda
>mandates ruined sonic
bros... how do we stop mandateGODS? the corporate review board is too powerful
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>>547717557
That's what I was referring to, yeah.
I fucking hate that image too, can't believe what Sonic has turned into.
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>>547717658
Economic crash destroying the safety and status quo of the brand recognition model
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>>547691647
Shadow and Maria are literal soulmates
That was established in Sonic Battle
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>>547717576
>er constant reappearances dilluted her character into being a shell of her former self
Her multiple appearances didn't dilute her character, appearing every now and then would be really nice in theory.

The problem is that every time she's reappeared, it's shit.
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>>547717639
I'm a simple man
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Mandates are necessary for any self respecting franchise
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i downloaded every rpg video you posted on litterbox
it's no use
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I'm always a mobian in my dreams and it's worsening my body dysmorphia. And there's no drugs to become a furry yet.
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>>547717816
If Blaze is only going to appear for some bland fluff dialogue in racing games or to say nothing of worth like Generations I would rather have her not appear at all
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>>547717940
If the US ever collapses Im hunting your kind for sport jsyk
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>>547700773
Blaze gets access to all that fluff
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>>547717056
...what?
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>>547717940
Oh dude same, I thought I was the only one.
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>>547718009
r/iamverybadass
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>>547718073
they will force you to put pencils on your head
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>>547717901
uh oh
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>>547717330
Blame Yuji Naka. Naoto Ohshima and Kazuyuki Yoshino created Amy for the principal purpose of being Sonic's girlfriend. Yuji Naka didn't want her to be his girlfriend and his word was final but he didn't want to change her character to fit his vision of her and to make her more complex either. Now we're stuck in a situation where it's out of character to take away her crush on Sonic but at the same time will anger the heck out of the people who like romance if it's taken away. Yuji Naka shouldn't have interfered. The only solution is to make Amy Sonic's girlfriend to let her have character development with him
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>>547718080
I like it. But it's a double-edged sword until VR or cybernetics gets good enough.
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>>547717639
Silver is FUCKING GAY Silver is a COMPLETE HOMOSEXUAL
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>>547718201
.....what?
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>>547718274
The solution is to give Sonic a better, more fitting girlfriend: Sally Acorn.
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>>547718304
as any 14 years old, if a chick comes to kiss you you would think thats gay
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>>547718442
Well, this universe's version of Sally is Lanolin so...

Sonic x Lanolin?
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>>547717697
That's why I miss the 2000s. The game had moderate budgets but true passion and seriousness. Now in the 2020s, the game have high budgets but no passion and no seriousness
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>>547718274
based Yuji Naka
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>>547718274
The solution is to delete Amy
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I'm eating David Jumbo Sunflower Seeds Frank's RedHot Original mixed with David Jumbo Sunflower Seeds Jalapeno
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>>547718514
You don't understand any of those characters
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>>547718526
And they were also complete slop
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"Girl Sonic" really is the "Nega-Tails" because the idealized manic pixie dream girl, a walking mascot whose face being plastered onto something could sell millions, is what a real girl would find to be a relatable, average experience to project onto as a self-insert. Many girls live the experience of being sought after and put on a pedestal, and admired by many just by existing. To the point that many find it disgusting to be so objectified, which leads to the Girlboss archetype as THEIR "ideal" that they aspire towards. And thus, the female-equivalent to a "Sonic" figure who is aspirational and larger than life is actually the "Nega-Sonic". Someone like Blaze or Sally who embodies traits that contrast sharply with Sonic and Amy, to the point of being a rejection of the very traits that make someone like Amy "idealized".
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now that Sega is fixing the lore to make sense, I can tell the next game is gonna have good gameplay. Get hyped for the 35th anniversary
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>>547717697
Sonic was always designed to be a mass appeal brand mascot with products made artificially.

What you're mad about is that culture changed and the edge of the 90s and 2000s was replaced with mass sanitization
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>>547718768
>good gameplay
maybe
>good story
most definitely not
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>>547718526
Not only that, but there seems to be a total and utter dissonance between the fans and the devs. Sonic Team and SEGA seem to have no idea what do even do with Sonic anymore. Frontiers JUST felt like it was ripping off BotW gameplay wise it was sad.

>>547718794
Wrong. There is a clear and apparent lack of quality in the games nowadays and you are a fag.
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>>547718718
Holy autism
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>Ships
Sonic is the wind, not your self insert.
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>>547718632
I pray for the day he makes her not fat.
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>>547718768
We need the story to be Adventure saga-levels of serious and the level design to be Unleashed-levels of sophisticated
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Sonic self inserts inside Surge
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>>547718619
I don't get it. Adding the movies was a nice touch. WTF happened in that game gear game to cause a split.
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>>547718982
The only canon that matters is my specific headcanon.
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>>547717639
this looks really interesting actually
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Any ship that doesn't have Sonic in it can be canon
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>>547719093
>
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>>547715439
>Archie
Fuck no.
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Sonelise is the only option after Sonamy
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>>547718937
>Sonic Team and SEGA seem to have no idea what do even do with Sonic anymore
Even we don't know what we want from Sonic. There seems to be a civil war within the fanbase between those who preferred the 90s/2000s Sonic VS the people who prefer the Frontiers/Movie/IDW Sonic
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>>547719204
I love Wade Whipple. He is one of the greatest additions to the Sonic franchise. I hope he becomes canon one day.
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>>547715439
>only a few short year to have sex with humans before IDW removes them all
Grim.
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>>547717639
Silver knows Blaze is the only one for him
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>>547719494
no, he's just gay
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>>547718527
Good producer, very disciplined, and protective of the franchise from western meddling but he made mistake regarding Amy

>>547718547
That would be incredibly disrespectful to Naoto Ohshima, Kazuyuki Hoshino, the fans of Amy, and would make decades of ship teasing between Sonic and Amy pointless and a retroactive waste of budget and screen time
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>>547716859
>instead of making up her mind about Sonic she completely stops trying to find love and becomes a lonely generic boring woman
each day we got closer and closer to blade runner dystopic future
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>>547719838
No, this leaves room for Surge to take Sonic for herself
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I understand people who are tired of Amy's behavior in the 2000s but I don't understand people who enjoy Boom/IDW/Prime Amy
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>>547719671
>but he made mistake regarding Amy
>I don't respect the original authors intentions. I just want muh shipping
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>>547719041
The Time Eater just takes the Sonic from that era into white space and Generations happens, then everyone returns to their time but the changes in the past make an altered timeline, making the younger Sonic "the Sonic from another dimension" as Forces pulls it.
And if you wonder why Chaotix and Fighters are after the split and not before, Sonic 4 reveals Metal Sonic's body was still in Little Planet since the events of Sonic CD so there can't be Sonic games with Metal between Sonic 4 and Sonic CD. This also matches with Chaotix referring to that Metal Sonic (not just the transformation, every version of the character from that game) as "Metal Sonic Kai", because it's a new model and the original is still in Little Planet.
>wouldn't that mean the game can still happen between CD and 4? Metal Sonic Kai goes kaput and Eggman rescues the original in Sonic 4
Not really because Charmy, Vector and Espio got to know Eggman and his deeds in Chaotix, meanwhile in Heroes they said the pretty much remade those three as new characters, which is why they don't know Eggman at first. Chaotix and Heroes can't coexist in the same timeline.
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>>547719971
I like boom amy, I just don't look at her like how i view normal amy
she's quite clearly different but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy her being on screen
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The horrible truth you don't want to acknowledge is sonic was always corposlop meant to sell and advertise.
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>>547719971
IDW and Prime Amy suck ass.

Boom Amy is quite fine actually, especially considering she's a different continuity of sonic
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>>547720208
Anyone with a brain could figure this out.
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>>547716518
>>547716714
I've done 48 HOURS. FortyEIGHT. Light still there. Sitll seeing far and wide, at 209082091fps.

CATCH UP NIGGAS
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>>547720208
No shit!
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Shadow likes headpats
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>>547719971
>Boom and Prime Amy were neutered.
>IDW Amy is neutered only when Ian writes her and doesn't have a leash around him like a pitbull
>Evan Stanley writes her in character but wants to be the Rebecca Sugar of Sonic and has already put gay birds and non-binary squirrels into the comics

Monkey's paw
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Katie wants Zavok to be her husband
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>>547719298
We as a fan base collectively will never agree but at least within those groups they know what they want. Sonic Team or Sega are in charge of Sonic's direction as a franchise. The ship needs a captain and a destination. They have to agree on those in some form or else the crew (franchise and franchise interest) will start dying and then they will be forced to make a panic choice
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>>547719971
>>547720242
IDW Amy just tried to have a date with Sonic at the museum, why are you guys pretending this is not what she would do?
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>>547720683
There's something so charming about this style....
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Plappin the hedgehog
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>>547720052
>I don't respect the intentions of Naoto Ohshima and Kazuyuki Hoshino, who were Sonic and Amy respective creators.
FTFY
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>Katie and Justin playing Crossworlds
she's gonna die laughing bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qYzxKpkr4I
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Plappin bunnies.
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why did they make sonic so chummy with amy and just outright removed things such as pushing her away. everyone just focuses on the amy side but never the sonic side of this shit.
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I remember footage of Tika Sumpter and Jeff Fowler playing Shadow gens and Tika figured it out whle Jeff couldn't get a handle of any of it because old man.
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>>547719971
Boom/IDW Amy was made to be an innofensive character tailored for people who don't like Amy, and she succeeds at that.
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>>547719494
Sonic game with Silver and Blaze as the protagonists, and in the end their love is so strong that the worlds collide and become one
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I shit on Silverfags all the time for the way they latch onto his "potential", because it will never be realized. But I got into reading a long Silver-centric fanfiction because a different character I like was involved, and I just feel disappointed because Silverfags are right, he does actually have "potential" to be a neat character with an interesting story. I'm just not the type of person who likes characters for theoreticals.
Silver's character seems to be permanently fucked because they botched his introduction. Only Hollywood jews can save him now.
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>>547720808
Now draw her futa cock.
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>>547720101
>Sonic 4 reveals Metal Sonic's body was still in Little Planet since the events of Sonic CD

His body, yes but not his CPUs. That is what Eggman retrieved to make "Metal Sonic Kai". There's ZERO need for Eggman to retrieve the body as he technically already had his brain or rather, soul. Furthermore, you can see Metal Sonic in a floating jar in Sonic Adventure alongside Mecha Sonic.

It's a paradox caused by Sonic 4. Fortunately, this annoying paradox is fixed by Sonic Generations where Metal Sonic Kai is beaten by Classic Sonic and yet again, left on Little Planet. Truth be told, I believe this was entirely on accident and not Sonic Team fixing a paradox cause by a Dimps game.

On that note, don't ask why Neo Metal Sonic doesn't have purple orb powers in Sonic Heroes.
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>>547718946
This is just on my mind because I've been seeing people talk about a new romance anime coming out. "The Way We Draw" or something. Girls on twitter are wondering why the convention is a super attractive girl falling for a loser guy, compared to female-targeted shojo romance where both are highly attractive and idealized. The answer in all the comments are about how the loser guy is a relatable self-insert for the male target audience, but the fact that the common convention for the female version of the genre is for the FeMC to also be attractive and idealized just leads to thinking about how it seems like the general idea of a "dream girl" is practically the universal experience for women.

Most girls likely know what it feels like to be treated as someone special and admirable for their whole lives, to the point that a common fear for women is for creepy guys to prey on them or something, or a major feminist thing being a dislike for being objectified so much. Like, some of the reception to that anime I've been seeing also highlight that, they feel creeped out by it because they relate to that idealized waifu character on a personal level.

From my perspective, especially after binge-reading the entire manga this afternoon out of curiosity, the male MC is basically just Tails and the female MC is basically just Amy. Not literally 1:1, I mean in terms of the generic idea archetype-wise and stuff. But in shojo romance stuff, Amy is the FeMC while its Sonic who is the love interest. In both cases, the love interest is an idealized dream person or whatever. But the sharp contrast is how the male shonen mc is likely to be "Tails-like" with the very idea of Sonic being a rival at best. Meanwhile, the female MC is likely to be identical to the female love interest but with the illusion of being an "average girl" despite clearly still being exceptionally beautiful or idealized in some regard.
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>>547721159
welcome to the dark side anon, the more fanfictions you read the more you will become one of us, it's innevitable
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>>547721117
we already did that and it was called Sonic Rush
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>>547721159
He has existed for nearly two decades at this point, and has never been a good character in all that time.
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>>547721069
>such as pushing her away
it was the decision they made after frontiers to make a few changes on characters alongside removing their ages and such.Probably it came together with the american writers.
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Imagine if movie Silver is actually great
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>>547721408
Shadow didn't get a solo game in 20 years either, and unlike Silver he got an oppurtunity in 2005 all for himself and fucked it up bigly
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All aircraft report!
Check your G-diffuser systems!
Lock on target to Sonic's penis!
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So apparently this is just an audio drama?

https://youtu.be/JIZFsoqthK0?si=ls3nyuI76-mN8IbL
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>>547720929
so everyone agrees it sucks. whats the problem?
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>>547720576
The captain is Takashi Iizuka. The destination ought to be 90s/2000s Sonic, when Sonic had soul and seriousness. The nü-gen "fans" who like the saccharine and left-wing nature of the IDW comics must be made to walk the plank. The movie/Frontiers fans will be in the lower deck while the 90s and 2000s fans will be in the upper deck.
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I need to suck amy's tiddies.
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>>547721159
His potential begins and ends with fellating Sonic or crying because he lost Blaze again
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>>547721637
Looks like just some fan work.
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>>547721607
He wouldn't be a good character even if he got a solo. He is flawed as a concept too. You need to contrive reasons every time for him to even keep showing up.
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>>547721159
pass the link of what you read please
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I think about Shadow's balls for at least 30 mins every day, just so you know.
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>>547722072
Detail how big they are, the consistency, how many sperm cells are made each day, how much liquid semen he produces in a day, how soft is the fur on his scrotum, do they get much smaller when it's cold
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>>547720208
>pack-in game
>doesn't even utilize 2 of 3 buttons you have on your controller
what were they thinking
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>>547720683
There should be an advanced version of the move where she drops to her knees and starts sucking him off
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>>547721273
>His body, yes but not his CPUs. That is what Eggman retrieved to make "Metal Sonic Kai"
Yeah that's my point? Metal Sonic Kai from Chaotix isn't the original Metal Sonic body, that body ate shit in CD and didn't return until Sonic 4, with the events of Chaotix having to take place in another timeline anyway because "Team Chaotix" from Sonic Heroes don't have the background the Chaotix had in their 2d game.
No paradox to fix here.
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>>547722313
What would you want the other buttons to do anon? Hard mode: think like it's 1991
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>>547722043
That surely doesn't correlates to every fucking character sure
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>>547722723
It doesn't
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>>547722860
Something is wrong with Sonazefags
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>>547686208
>He doesn't seem to dislike Silver
You can't say this with a straight face if you read issue 235 of Archie Sonic.
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>>547721656
The problem is that making Amy's defining character her love for Sonic while at the same time not letting her get into a genuine romantic relationship with Sonic prevents her character from being developed through the use of the person most important to her. It's bad writing and is always bound to not end well
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You are allowed to have SEX with up to 5 Sonic characters.

Which ones?

You can choose less than 5 if you want, maybe you only want 1. But the character(s) consent and you will face no consequences.
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>>547722964
Cream the Rabbit, 5 times in a row.
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>>547722920
>perfectly innocent drawing of a husband, wife, their kids, and the chill uncle
and we're weird?
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>>547722043
>He is flawed as a concept too
I though the 10 m fucking people who liked him for one dialogue will actually shut your dumbasses up but here we are, still in denial, it's going to be so mesmerizingly amusing when he shows up again and all you'll do is repeat everything like a broken record.
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>>547722964
Blaze
Marine
Amy
Marine
Cream
Honey
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>>547722860
I like Sonaze but I can just feel the jealous seethe radiating off of this art
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>>547722072
>>547722304
is Shadow's semen white or black?
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>>547723050
Yeah the fag that made this is trying to thinly cover up for his cuck fetish
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>>547722680
Shoot some guns
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Is tails michael jordan?
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>>547723080
Silver has never gotten a story that wasn't filler or silvazeslop, idk why you silverfags torture yourselves with these fantasies
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>>547722860
>>547723067
Can Blazefags ever keep Silver out of their heads? Amy is more threatening to their ship yet they keep leeching to him and moan and bitch about him somehow
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Blaze and Silver will always be the actual combo
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>>547723297
On Genesis?
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>>547722276
Whenever I see this image I do a double take because of the alternate version
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Blaze and Silver are more like older sister and younger brother to me
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>>547722920
>>547723193
>>547723397
it's just harmless fanart, imagine if he drew cuck porn instead, that's way worse
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>>547723091
You put Marine twice
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>>547722964
Antoine
Sticks
Geoffrey
Larry Lynx
Rosie
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>>547723386
>a broken record
Yeah yeah, anyways you wanna talk about other characters now?
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Blazefags treat Silver the way windfags treat Sally
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>>547723595
Windfags vs Flamefags
who wins?
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>>547723560
You need to hear it. Bad future fags always treat 06 like it doesn't count.
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>>547720683
Silver is a GAYY HOMO
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>>547723595
Windfags hate Amy more than they hate Sally
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I saw this confession account on X have someone complain about Silver in Sonaze stuff lmao. Which one of you was it?!
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>>547723745
Nta, but I see 06 as the last Sonic game. With P-06 now, I see it as Adventure 3 now, too. For better or worse, 06 felt like the last story they wanted to tell, and everything after has felt like slop.
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>>547723507
They are both 14 years old.
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>547723429
Sega does what Nintendon't
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I don't care the least about what yeon ships or his fetishes, the fact that he folded so fucking hard and cried like a tranny when people told him cucking is bad and he's still trying so hard to force that he's not just made me lose any kind of respect i could have for him, also his art is fucking horrible when look at it closely
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post my oc
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>>547722671
So Metal Sonic was never resurrected before Sonic Generations meaning he shouldn't be in Sonic Generations. That does not work. Furthermore, you can't even claim its Neo Metal Sonic cause he was in Shadow Generations.

The only way that could work is if Eggman explicitly resurrects Metal Sonic/Builds a new one in Generations. None of which is stated anywhere. Sonic 4's Metal Sonic paradox is that annoying. That's why Sonic Superstars has "The Prototype" and not Metal Sonic proper.

>Team Chaotix in Heroes don't have their background
What background?
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>>547724087
SNES had guns tho.
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>>547723350
looool
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>>547723909
>X
Go back.
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>>547723960
Unleashed had great writing, a memorable soundtrack, fun level design, a vibrant, populated world, and a story that was neither too dark nor too lighthearted. Unleashed was good too
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>>547721532
Movie 4 will bomb, the same way Joker 2 flopped, it's going to be too different from what people expect and end the franchise forever
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>>547724356
and then anon fucks both of them
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>>547724426
Boost.
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>Sally and Sticks
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>>547723909
Once upon a time, anon who was complaining about this >>547722860 artist was discovered on Twitter, but I struggle to find the exact thread this was in
But it's probably him
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>>547724427
They're gonna have Amy make Marvel quips and shit
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I've noticed that the younger sonicfag anons on here tend to only want to talk about the opinions of the entire fanbase/surrounding culture, or announce and try to project what they think everyone thinks/talk about everything in terms of popularity.
While older anons only really want to talk about what they or the person they're replying to personally thinks and does not care about the surrounding opinions on the subjects.
I feel like this is what's leading to a lot of the clashing on this general, as we seem to be arguing about the same things, but are in two entirely different dimensions about it.
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>>547724427
>guys the movies are gonna bomb!
>THIS TIME FOR SURE, OKAY??
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>>547724574
nta. about "cucking" silver? isnt the whole point of tanabata is that they never get together? what cucking to complain about?
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>>547724427
Amyfags please pull this off for us and we'll blow you
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Silver turned Blaze into the Waluigi of the Sonic franchise.
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>>547724856
Who's that?
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>>547724808
are you saying younger fans are in a hivemind?
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>>547724836
Constantly brought up, but no one actually really likes?
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an anon having it out for a sonaze shipper is funny to me. bro get a life.
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>>547724808
I did that a lot when I was younger. I think it's pointless because drawing a picture of the whole fandom like that isn't very useful in practice, and it becomes weak anectodal evidence in the first place. Now I want to know how would people personally improve Sonic with their own ideas
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>>547724824
Wait a second, Blaze cannot get with anyone why is she around?
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>>547724978
i believe that's kasane teto hugging metal
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>>547724216
>That does not work.
It does. The Time Eater takes people from different times and spaces, if it can take Silver, who wouldn't even exist until 200 years later why can't it take Metal from the past? Or even an alt timeline? There's no issue here, really. It could even be the one we see in Sonic Adventure, just with the classic artstyle.
>what background
The original MCs of the Chaotix are independent characters that gather in the same place for their own reasons and end up confronting Eggman. Team Chaotix is just three of these characters in a detective agency, repurposed as entirely new characters and they don't even know about Eggman until the events of Sonic Heroes. So either Chaotix happens after Sonic Heroes (and after the detectives split up and just happen to gather there by luck, along Knuckles and Mighty) or Chaotix and Heroes happen in different timelines.
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>>547724991
That's summing up what I mean, and when you summarize or try to abbreviate/categorize something, you lose a lot of the nuance and details.
But I guess that's around what I mean.
Do you disagree?
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>>547725121
>nobody can outside archie
what's the point of female characters AT ALL?
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>>547724914
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>>547725235
...wow I'm typing like a faggot, I need more sleep.
brb with nap.
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>>547724462
I'll admit. The Adventure formula is better
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>>547722964
Amy
Surge
Rouge
Blaze
Tangle
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>>547724836
Silver is the Waluigi of the franchise. He was created to fill the obligate spot implied by the existence of an evil version of the main character. Like "Evil Mario" begets "Evil Luigi" in the same way "dark Sonic" begets "light Sonic".
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>>547725323
Wow this artist really hit the nail on the head with this.
I absolutely can see Shadow having this viewpoint.
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>>547724856
Traced
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>>547724914
>>547725323
Holy shit this is good
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>>547725725
HOLYYYY KINOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>547725135
>why can't it take Metal from the past?
Because, under your timeline he's dead. Post-Sonic CD, Metal Sonic is dead until Sonic 4 or Knuckles Chaotix. Neither of which happened yet. Silver is NOT dead so of course he can show up.
>Sonic Adventure
That's Metal Sonic Kai in a tube. And it makes sense given Metal Sonic was in Sonic the Fighters in addition to the game gear games and spin-offs (such as Sonic R)
>Team Chaotix doesn't know about Eggman until Heroes
They clearly do know who Eggman is. Or are you arguing Charmy acting stupid for a joke is evidence to the contrary?
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>See Shadow shipping content
>Spot nothing OOC
Alright, lowering my weapons
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>>547722964
Sticks
Cream
Amy
Blaze
Megani
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>>547724914
>>547725323
People say bats are just sky puppies.
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These are the people in control of IDW and Sega Sammy's CEO is fully in on it BTW. Just in case you thought JP Sega wasn't pozzed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYJv_zW8Vk
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>went to do a test for a job
>one of the test question had a excerpt from a fucking Sonic fanfic that involved Cream
What the fuck...
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>>547726587
You're twisting my nuts, that can't be true lol
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Iizuka made the Chaotix ooc when he turned them into detectives

Maekawa made Blaze ooc when she made her Silver's wrangler

Kishimoto made Eggman ooc when he gave him a daughter

Why does Sega of Japan mischaracterize everyone?
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Lotta sex talk for a kids franchise
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>>547726679
Characters are at the whims of the writers and creatives,
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Silver needs to be mandated like Knuckles
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>>547726612
In need of some serious dicking. Seriously.
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>>547726652
It's not, I wish i could have printed that. It had cream and some OC called Kay and was about a phone call and I had to analyze the context of the situation. It wasn't weird, the fanfic I mean, but seeing this on a job est was the most bizarre experience I ever had.
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>>547726540
It's getting harder as a veteran Sonic fan to continue sticking with the franchise.

I feel like a day 1 employee who's stuck with the company for years only to be fired simply because new management didn't like me or found me obsolete.
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>>547727149
I guess somehow a sonicfag snuck that shit in.
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>>547726679
I find that surprising considering how conformist Japanese culture is. Eggman is the biggest example of tonal whiplash in that list. He went from wanting to destroy a city with a missile in SA1 and pointing a gun at Amy threatening to shoot her dead as a leverage tactic against Sonic in SA2 to having an AI daughter in Frontiers. Why does Sonic Team want us to feel sympathetic to him in Frontiers after what he did in SA1 and SA2?
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>>547725323
h-he called her cute!
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>>547726210
Anon Metal being dead is as much of an issue as Silver not being born yet. It means nothing for the Team Eater, he can just pick them from a time before their death and after their births.
>that's Metal Sonic Kai
... or Metal Sonic, nothing confirms it's specifically the one from Chaotix.
>they do know, let me post a picture of Espio having to explain who Eggman is because the team hasn't clashed with Eggman before
Huh? You are literally proving me right, buddy. Team Chaotix first time encountering Eggman was Heroes, the events of Chaotix never happened there. Like I say, the devs themselves confirmed those three were remade for the new game without considering their previous appearances, as new characters. Sonic Heroes treating Charmy, Vector and Charmy as new heroes who never fought Eggman before isn't up to debate.
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>>547727349
Any long running character becomes beloved rather than a morale challenge for the hero to position against.

See the Joker.
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>>547727541
People hate the Joker now after all the overuse.
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>>547725587
Silver is Luigi
Shadow is Wario
Metal Sonic is Waluigi
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>SOJ made them OOC
You morons will never be satisfied.
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>>547727626
What the fuck
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>>547727204
Same here. This was unimaginable in the 2000s. If you went back in time and told a Sonic fan this would happen in the late 2010s and throughout the 2020s, he/she would have laughed at you.
Always gatekeep your fandoms
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>>547721159
anon we are gonna hit bump limit and you ddn't tell me what you read
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>>547727817
Most humane way to beat the Joker.
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>>547706073
This is why Sonamy works and Sonurge doesn't
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>random fanfic
>Chapter 162
>OC marries Blaze and is going to be a king of Sol
>another OC is married simultaneously with Tikal and Vanilla
whaaaat
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>>547727349
we believe in redemption here
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>>547727504
>Time Eater doesn't have to follow logic
And thus, you invalid your timeline. Game over, thanks for playing.

>You are literally proving me right, buddy.
Quite the opposite. You argued they "don't even know about Eggman". Espio clearly did. This ain't up for discussion, you are just wrong. Completely wrong.

Stick to shipping or low grade porn posting. You're not smart enough to understand the Sonic Timeline.
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>>547727349
they have been going through a uwu hellokitty phase recently
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>>547720683
>Auraver
The real Silver would blush and kindly ask not to be touched
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>>547728273
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>>547728273
>Vector is DK
I don't know how to feel about this
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>>547728286
Eggman should have remained an intimidating villain like in SA1 and SA2. He lost his scariness and ability to be taken seriously in the 2010s and his portrayal in Frontiers didn't do him any favors
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>>547728273
>Vector - DK
....That makes more sense than I thought.
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>>547728505
it's her birthday
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>>547728630
nah, Silver would touch her ass without her consent
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>>547728505
Next Sonic Blitz update when?
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>>547728630
that's uwuver
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>>547728604
Yuji Naka would never allow this. He would know better than to spend money on unnecessary crossovers and media that could instead be used for developing games better than the last one. He would never approve of saturating the franchise for the sake of engagement and easy publicity
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>>547729298
Uwuver is Silver, Auraver is not
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>>547728819
Giving Sally the world's biggest nut...
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>>547729523
This is how Shadow yumes self-insert
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Sonic Unleashed but there is a Israel like country. What happens.
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>>547728470
No, I didn't. The time eater being able to kidnap people from different points of the timeline doesn't remove the existence of said timeline, how dumb can you be? That's like saying you being able to skip pages of a book and jump to any part of the story means they don't follow an order.
>you said they don't know!
Yeah, first hand. They haven't fought him. I would call you dumb again for having no reading comprehension but your dishonest shitpost tells me you understand it, you are just playing dumb because you ran out of arguments.
Chaotix does not happen before Heroes. Heroes' Team Chaotix was created entirely under the premise they are new heroes facing Eggman for first time.
Deal with it and try to bait someone else into feeding you.
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>>547730168
NPCs who try to scam you out of your money and claim they're the victims of aggression from Shamar when in reality, it's the other way around
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>>547685285
You don't need any of that, emulators already exist. It's just that no one cares about those games.
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>>547706854
I agree Sonic can have emotions, but I don't know why you take that mission so seriously. They're making Sonic go through that to get access to Kingdom Valley, I don't think it means anything



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