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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>548794151


>12/03 (Wed) Update
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11402378

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Current/Upcoming Featured Banner
Chizuru - Psionic - Void | Starting December 3rd

>Current/Upcoming Content/Events
Galactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Until January 13th 2026
Guardian of the Ark - Policy Event | Until December 3rd
Galactic Disaster Dispatch - Login Event | Until November 25th

>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the Second Update:
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.
https://rentry.co/cznsavedata
https://czn-calc.vercel.app/
https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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Bros what the fuck my chizuru didn't oneshot the newest boss?????

This is a fucking outrage how dare them make her bad? I demand buffs until both yuki and chizuru are able to oneshot everything with one card or else they're shit
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post yourself when that combat music comes on
you know the one im talking about
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Congratulations Chizurugods. You have now been inducted into the Mei lin nation for being the best support in the game.
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I need to roll Chizuru for my Meilin now.............................
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>>548814829
so is she a must pull or no? F2P btw
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>>548815040
>170 points
I dumped thousands of points into rerolls and never got a natty 14
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ROLL FOR CHUDZURU NOW NOW NOW BIS SUPPORT FOR MEI LIN
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>>548815040
>he wasted 70 rolls for this
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Why do I feel like I’m being punished for playing the game? Grinding decks to get 500k looks extremely miserable.
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>>548815040
>Chorizo's only job is to not do anything because she is bound
HOLY SHIT
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>>548815303
Actually, I e6'd Chizuru because my Mei deserves only the best.
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Stupid gooks let me see the fragments dupes and potentials on the leaderboard. How cracked are the mei lins statwise
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shartzuru's kit is basically to let you not use mika and run 3 dps
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ne
kanchou kanchou
boku ga hitsuyou nandeshou?
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>>548815332
its in your mind, retard. just stop playing. walk away. toss yourself and your pc off of your balcony
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>>548815040
Chink trolling smilegate hardcore
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I like playing Chaos Zero Nightmare and making fun builds with my favorite characters
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>>548815040
So glad that's the card I animated l and not her other meme cards.
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>>548815178
probably the first ever must-skip I've seen in a gacha LMAO
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>>548815545
based
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>>548815636
but enough about Yuki
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>Haru's message on Unigram is:
>"Sharing the list of my favorite restaurants!"
Why is she like this?
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/czn/ bros I need 35 pulls right now, where am I getting them?
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>>548815545
same
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>>548815931
sir...do not redeem!!!!!
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>>548815842
Taking Haru to multiple restaurants and then taking her home to fuck her arseways while she blows like a trumpet
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>>548815931
from THAT
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Chizuru is fun but man she does seem a bit weak.
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so fucking funny how incompetent these moron devs are. uninstalling
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>>548816401
>everyone already knew what the leaderboard was gonna be before it even came out
Pretty funny.
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bros, i can't even find where people are seeing this leaderboard.
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>>548816401
Where are the chinks and japs?
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Someone said we dont have to just grind zero lab for the event saves data? Is that true? How does it work? Does all saves data this event count or what
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>>548816401
>He cares that much
Write a blog.
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Building my first good mei lin save data.

I have move epiph unity with +1 AP copied 1 time and I have +1 hit per passion card rising dragon spire.
I have 40% basics damage item in slot 3.

So whats the pick?
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I think the honeymoon phase is WELL and truly over bros...We are in the DIVORCE phase
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>>548816401
aoe fight btw. When are we getting single target fights and will the new single target dps like chiziru be on it even if they giga buff her cards? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Our data shows balance is fine lmao
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>>548816375
Her multipliers are just so low, from the epis its clear they wanted 2 build options with slow stacking shadow of the moon with +hit or fast charging it. The fast charging build is just utterly terrible and the slow stacking one is just a worse mei lin.
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>>548816532
Go for the tunnel on other chaos and get a forbidden card. That makes the save data seasonal.
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>>548816532
Get a forbidden card in codex to convert the save into a seasonal save. It should be pretty easy as the tunnel is now on the map.
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>>548815040
Ok how the fuck do you get this lucky to removed ALL the cards?
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>>548816401
This is a fight that was specifically designed to shill Yuki, btw
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>>548814829
Can someone explain me why the devs suddenly decided to shipbait Yuki and fucking Owen out of nowhere?
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>>548816401
has hoyo ever fucked up this badly? or wuwa with balance?
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So Chizu chu build is the 4pc crit and 2 PC crit right?
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>>548816835
sit down, shut up and watch, faggot
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>>548816401
>globabs this weak
Chizuru WONNERED.
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Wow the shitskin is trying to famr izzat with the same screenshot again
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>>548816925
>use upgrade
>hits damage cards
>4pc crit no longer applies
4pc sets are GARBAGE
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>>548816835
...I guess Yuki was build for /ss/ cuckoldry...
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>>548817008
SEAsister....
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>>548817008
>won
>>548815040
>>548815040
1 card deck. Reduced to a forbidden card anyone can use that has downsides.
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>>548815784
what does Beryl's small butthole smell like?
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>>548816815
pretty sure u start by having no potentials so you don't get an eph at start, transform and remove a card, transform into sample and remove the other cards.
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reminder that the score is only for the 2nd team
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>>548817147
Shit. It smells like shit.
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>>548815040
Chizuro best support in the game.
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>>548817139
Are you the faggot from last thread who was trying to pretend this is the same thing as a targeted 2ap reduction every turn?
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What memory fragment sets for Chizuru?
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>>548816869
Retardbro? Like all of the Genshin starting 4 stars?
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>>548817152
>anyone that actually liked Chizuru and built her will be completely blocked out of her best deck
These devs are the most incompetent devs I've ever seen.
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Can any photoshop/drawfags edit this, replace Hugo with Cassius, have him throw his card, and put some enlarged top 1% red badges on the three of them?
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>>548817347
Hey idiot you know you can target the card you want with that moron
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>>548816401
The data shows that Yuki is actually number 0 in the ranking, you just need to wait for the devs to login in their no save data limit account to show how broken Yuki is.
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>>548816869
Tingyun was meta for literal years.
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>>548817480
>idiot moron
Underage? Seethe more
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btw theres an event inside of Dimensional Tunnels that lets you get to the "Core of Discord" after Interior and you beat the poo monster

as if its worth it, not sure, because in the same event that unlocks it you can choose a targeted div epiphany. the final boss just gives you an additional Mythic equip choice
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>>548816869
I have never played Gayshit, but I've heard through multiple gacha threads that I have played that apparently all of the launch 4*s are god tier or something, I guess kinda like this game.
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>>548817391
there is nothing broken about the 4 stars in genshin to the point of breaking the game in any game mode with any buffs given. try again
>>548817524
>meta
meta=/=breaking the game
try again
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>>548817391
Only Bennet and XQ nowadays
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>>548817190
>you don’t need to farm for a team to kill 50k HP in 5 turns little bro, It’s just one team
As I said, the leaderboard was the worst shit garbage they could have come up with. This will kill the game faster than any other change because it exposed all the game’s flaws.
>grind hell for 6 decks
>exposed meta teams and how unbalanced the game is
>exclusive shit for 500k points and the top 1%
devs are extremely retarded
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>>548816110
>>548816165
Does this patch not give out enough F2P pulls? Do I really have to swipe for 35 pulls? I'm only Account Lvl 14 and on the end of Chapter 2 btw, and used up my 5 monthly shop pulls. What else can I do right now?
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>>548817618
i think its random i got it from the 3/6/9 reduce stress event (it replaced the 3)
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>>548817706
Terrible bait. Try again.
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>>548817618
>Core of Discord where a giant troon blob exists
I don't wanna go there anon...
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>>548817739
>Does this patch not give out enough F2P pulls?
They promised 240 rolls during Season 1, but last I checked there are fewer than 180. Maybe we're getting a Christmas present, who knows.
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Where do you guys go to view ranking and teams?
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>>548817706
Why are you bitching that the best support is a 4*? It should be a net positive that Rei is so good
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>>548817692
they are good yeah, like you can say rei is really good. now look at mei lin. unfavorable content. head and shoulders god. same with tressa.

>>548817887
whos talking about Rei braindead nigger. rei doesn't break the game. mei lin and tressa do.
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APOLOGIZE to Yuki right now.
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>>548816675
>>548816806
Finally... I can leave this lab forever
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>>548818076
All that shilling and not even close to the top unlike Chizuru who instantly proved her worth
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>>548817597
No argument. You are that much of a shitter.
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>>548818076
SHOW THE DUPES & FRAGMENTS GOOKS
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>>548816835
Unfortunately every girl is built for Owen.
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>>548818076
Apologize for what, she is literally getting free buffs compared to most of the others characters, it's pathetic that with all the help this is all she can do.
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>>548818349
>Owen POV
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I miss Yuki and Yuki posters
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>>548818219
>Our internal data shows Chiruzu is the best support in the game and does not need buffs.
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Which one bros?
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>>548818626
I miss Battou...
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fuck this game i am completely bricked cause i leveled cheesuru's potential
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>Still no Cassius
Let him be on the next banner...
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HAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>548818570
>the cucknigger can't even get a single good screenshot of anything happening so this is his best.
you know there is nothing when this is all you got. don't even need to read the story
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>chink unit is gigabroken
>indirectly "nerf" her
>piss on the jap units for good measure as well
The gooks know who runs the show
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>>548818816
>
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GIGACHAD SPOTTED
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I'm lost, what teams and builds for Chizuru?
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>>548818918
>trying to imply anything with no context
you should kill yourself
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>>548818662
left one if you have the upgrade path for the pistol (one bullet each turn)
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why didn't anyone tell me slop videos take so long to generate...
I know it's going to turn out shit too......
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>get 80% refund
>only enough to get my level 50 Combatants to level 60
>not enough to actually level any new Combatants
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>>548818076
>100% of the team 2s have tressa
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>the cute cow woman just talked to me...
Breeding time
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>>548818980 (me)
YUKI SOLO DPS
GODDAMN
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>>548818918
>That's what she said.
Really pathetic bro.
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the tsukuyooomi for +2 hits is a bait its better if you just get bind 5 constantly uwu
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>>548818980
don't make me root for mei lin veronica mika AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>548819002
>t-that doesn't count
uoh melty how about this
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>>548819473
>i'm a pedophile therefore everyone else is one too.
uh oh
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do you prefer hairy vaginas groomed pussies or bald cunnies?
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>>548819587
groomed pussies
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If she sees you as a kid shes not interested bro.
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>Cursed Shackles
>Doesn't curse
>Doesn't shackle
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>DPS race turn limit basin
>DPS race turn limit 3 boss
>DPS race turn limit leaderboard
wow nice roguelike deckbuilder chaosbabes
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indians teally desperate for any izzat lately.
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What set for Chizuru?
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I NEED A CASSIUS BANNER NOW
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>>548818983
I guess this is a bad time to ask questions about the game then.
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>>548819943
yep we're busy, just follow your heart anon.
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>I've already spent 60 rolls on her banner, getting her wouldn't hurt m-
FUCK OFF
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>>548819814
The curse is the amount of gems you wasted and be shackled by regret because of it
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>>548818983
It's still testing phase for her.
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Realistically, how do they save the game? Relaunching?
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>>548817391
>all
only 5 of the gacha 4*s at launch
There's no Tressa or Mika equivalent out of the 3 freebies.
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>>548820096
>he won the 50/50
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Clunky ass kit. Fuck these devs.
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Will Yuki become picrel of this game?
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>>548820290
Allow gigascaling for all units
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>>548820436
This guy is my only fond memory of that game.
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>>548819587
Hairy all the way, hopefully soaking wet too
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>>548820412
bro.. image rolling for this shit. imagine rolling for her partner and dupes even lol.. e0 mei lin >>> e6 chizuru. This is probably going to be the case for every character too
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>>548820290
Unironically powercreep. We're getting to a point where NOTHING is worth spending money on.
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>>548815040
I usually hate chinks, but when it comes to dabbing on incompetent gacha devs, there is nobody better than them
I kneel
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>>548820370
I wanted any of the 4 that I haven't got yet, not another dupe.
This homoseed (+ beginner magna) is killing me
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>>548820412
This is why you should only roll for males. Those will be the only meta units they release.
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>>548820513
thats a fast track to dead game, just nerf mei lin and tressa and give a recall. refund materials etc.
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>>548820646
If the first character of s2 is a brick I'm quitting this fucking mess of a game
We know Sereniel is fucking dogshit because she's instinct and based around ravaging
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>>548818076
Beryl's carrying her
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Ravaging Sereniel
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>>548820290
Nerf Mei Lin and Tressa. Ignore all the screeching niggers after.
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>>548820828
cassius needs a nerf too. cap his attack. everything needs a cap. This game a piece of shit with balance.
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>>548820290
I thought the Koreans were shitposting, but as time goes on, I become more and more in favor of shutting down, refunding everyone, turning the game into what it was supposed to be before 30% cheaper nigger cocks in Dawei ruined it, and then relaunching 6-12 months down the line.
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>>548820815
kek nice try gay guy.
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
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>>548821260
3 bricks. not a single tressa. i would take 3 tressa and 1 rei over this with this dogshit balance
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>>548815178
She's the second must skip of the season.
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How many instinct characters are there in the game?
3?
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So guys now that its chizu chuuover can we start Serenielposting?
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>>548820290
>>548821059
>>548821060
You should NOT make Tressa's Shadow Reload unique, but any other nerf to Tressa still has Cassius who becomes the main DPS if Tressa gets nerfed. The only way to kill it is to make Shadow Reload unique, but if they do that I'm just quitting.

They fucked their game up because no one plays it, now they have to deal with the consequences of their actions. If the consequences of their actions is that they keep releasing new 5* units who are worse than the launch 4* units, then that will lead them to EoS, which I'm kind of rooting for at this point even though I know this game has several years left and did quite well on the memechart that is rigged in homoverse's favor.
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>>548821414
4
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>one of my favorite design
>fav mindbreak too
>deck so wonky /czn/ constantly makes fun of her
It's not fair...
I don't even wanna roll anymore...
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>>548816835
Yuki molesting children is a core part of her character.
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>>548821443
Just quit nigger.
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WHY WON'T SHE SHUT UP NOW
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Can you nerf in gacha?
I member one game where they nerfed characters right after their banner and it basically killed the game.
The other way I guess would be to buff everything else and make everything harder, but that is just a clunky way to achieve the same result.
Making it so every boss has anti X unit mechanic is also lazy.... just nerf it... say it was bugged or something.
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>>548821575
No.
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>>548821443
Boo boo nobody gives a fuck bigger.
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>>548821443
>They fucked their game up
Retard all they have to do is make more enemies with mechanics that punish cardspam and 0 costs
It's fine if Tressa/MeiLin are dominant in some places but you can easily make content that counters them where you want to use someone else
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>>548821607
ATARASHII SHINA DESU KA
MOCHIRON OMISE SHIMASU TOMO
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>>548820815
TRUTHNUKE
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>>548821260
Nice, have fun
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>three reis and two tressas
Have i solved the game? Can I bench Mika in Chaos runs?
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>>548821643
you can nerf and e7 has had nerfs with problem units. same dev team.

>>548821662
kill yourself. that hurts nonproblem characters that have 0 costs and card spam but aren't broken.
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Don't worry guys, I got this
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Can Chizuru replace Hugo on the Tressa team? I want to play Tressa, but I don't have the furry and even if I had him, I really don't want to build him.
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>>548820290
Genuinely remove memory frags from this game. What a shit ass system to add on top of an rng heavy game. I fucking hate this shit
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>>548821834
Server funder...
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>>548815040
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>548821804
Holy fuck you are retarded
It puts characters that cardspam but not as hard on an equal level, and makes characters that aren't built around cardspam preferable
If a character is literally Tressa but worse nothing you do is going to fix that, but no one is that currently
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man, I'm glad I decide to play no-gacha account.
being punished for playing what you like must feels pretty bad.
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>>548821517
So is she perpetually tied up?
Its got too be a pain to not be able to use your hands at all and i'm not sure that going on a date with her giant mech arms is really a romantic thing to do.
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>>548821474
Khalipe and Orlea?
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>>548821643
I haven't seen a PvE game successfully nerf shit without getting a shitstorm in response yet
It's easier in PvP games since broken units ruin the fun for all players, but nerfs in PvE is just a straight loss for everyone who has the unit
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>>548821804
Has e7 nerfed anyone since they almost EOS'd by nerfing hwayoung?
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>>548819294
>the meta is to remove all character's cards
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>>548821834
BRICKGOD
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>>548816628
Right, left is a complete and utter brick because it loses retain.
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>>548821517
It really is tragic, I was looking forward to her and her sexo design. I'll only play her if she happens to spook me on the standard banner or something I suppose.
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>>548820290
>Realistically, how do they save the game? Relaunching?
Wrong thread sis, this isn't the ZZZ general...And they are already doing their third relaunch...
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(You) will skip when Sereniel is non-meta.
(You) will skip when Narja is non-meta.
(You) will skip when Luche is non-meta.
(You) will skip when the cunnies are non-meta.
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>>548822010
Khalipe Orlea Cassius Nia
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>>548821971
only tressa, mei lin, and cassius are issues. characters with no cap scaling attacks.
You can say kayron has one but his takes so long to go that nobody fucking cares. the other ones can do it every turn. Not 0 cost spam that can be a legitimate strategy and shouldnt be removed as long as the character doesn't break the game.
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>>548822185
I won't skip the last one
t. jzad
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>Kayron: ...
based edgy man
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E7 had an infinite turn setup discovered within like the first month, this developer is already used to shutting down gamebreaking teams
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>>548821840
She can but will do 1/100th of their damage together, and 1/1000th if he was Cassius instead
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>>548822185
I roll for males, so that all goes without saying.
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>>548822056
A.lots they changed the way he works entirely. Which is also fine if they don't want to do a fast nerf, rework the character.
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>>548821443
>The only way to kill it is to make Shadow Reload unique, but if they do that I'm just quitting.
Thorns.
Sts had this mechanic to punish dagger spam. It's the exact same problem with the exact same unit so just copy the same solution, they copied everything else anyway.

I will trade few anons quiting over two units breaking the game for the rest of the players.
The top ladder board places are embarrassing.
Off element teams should not be the ideal strategy.
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>>548821059
Honestly, Nia/Veronica/Cassius are the real issue.
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>>548821443
And STAY OUT
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>>548822185
>(You) will skip when Narja is non-meta.
Nope. I will roll, and if she sucks I will quit.
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>>548822185
>(You) will skip when the cunnies are non-meta.
I would roll even if they were the brickiest bricks to ever brick.
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This game balance is so shit it made me go back to shadowverse wb.
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>>548814829
>new Shop Owner VA never shut the fuck up
SHUT UP!!!!!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING VAPID WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>548822502
veronica isn't unbalanced. shes just lets a character like mei lin find her whole deck easily. but if mei lins whole deck didn't do as much as it did. it wouldn't be broken. it would be like when veronica is used with any other dps not named mei lin.
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>>548822321
Really? Is she that bad?
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I can't understand gacha players, most of the time they complain about limited units being OP, and in this game 4* happen to be very good and everyone is complaining, what the fuck is wrong with you all
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If Luche is a brick I'm going back to Tribe 9
Fuck this
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Bros what the fuck the new events in lab 0 just dilute the pool of good events. I don't fucking care to liberate or end everything for a current run only buff.
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>>548822423
>Thorns.
>Sts had this mechanic to punish dagger spam.
I don't think that's gonna work, man. Part of the Tressa combo is a heal, and after enough Quest completions, Cassius Fortitude makes you basically immune to damage. If you make thorns that are beefy enough to counter Tressa, every other comp is gonna suffer.
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>>548822520
>look mom I posted it again!
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>>548822615
Take a chill pill, kiddo
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>no fun allowed the game
>you HAVE to roll the gachas and retarded devs also don’t want to make characters op so they can theoretically try and sell more units shilled by current content but they fail miserably
just have actual fun epiphanies and not this +1 retarded shit boring garbage
fun of deck roguelites is doing kuraaazy decks not damage vomit
revamp the game, if the characters deck is fun people will pull just be creative you don’t have to le meta character le genshit abyss
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>>548822792
also for
>>548822763
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>>548822698
Honestly i'm just fucking around, i don't give a shit about anyone else's roster hehehe.
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>>548822682
She's not even as good as Rin and has cards to actively brick her deck, and needs very specific comps (taking Tressa away from her better teams)
I'd say she's the worst DPS in the game honestly outside of meme 40 turn 1 shots with +50 hits
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>>548822698
>actual retard who is incapable of understanding nuance purposely misunderstands arguments that are being made and instead reduces all possible opinions into only one of two categories which are each on very extreme opposing sides of the issue
Many such cases, unfortunately. You probably got multiple boosters.
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>>548822698
Retards just want problem-solvers, like, they actually want a character that solo's chaos and carries their whole account with minimal effort
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>>548822698
There is a minority of retards asking for a nerf of those 4*
And then there is a majority of people simply asking for the newer 5* to feel good to play
Pic might just be you, anon...
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>>548822698
Shitposters aren't real people, which yes includes gacha players. Same shit different colors.
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>>548822591
Oh yeah? What deck?
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has this been fixed yet?
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>>548818076
So a 2.5x multiplier is what she needs to be good?
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>>548820290
>Realistically, how do they save the game? Relaunching?
????
game's doing well wtf are you talking about
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>>548815013
shut the fuck up redditor
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>>548823031
swordcraft
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>>548822698
>Character isn't broken powercreep
Wow why would I ever summon EOS loll?!?!?
>Character is broken powercreep
Releasing powercreep already? Talk about desperate lol?!?!?!?
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>>548822747
>If you make thorns that are beefy enough to counter Tressa, every other comp is gonna suffer.
Vanguards exist for a reason.
If you wanna bring sort of spamming unit, bring a shielder or get fucked.
You should not be able to play 20, 0 cost cards. Sts also had that boss that just ends your turn. Fuck card spam.
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>>548822793
>just have actual fun epiphanies
Sorry, anon. This is the live service timeline of the video game medium.
Any time players are having fun, we need to nerf it, and we can no longer organically manufacture fun because we have quantified "fun" by using various engagement metrics.
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>>548822992
in order to make 5 stars good enough to be worth playing over these unbalanced characters cassius, tressa, and mei lin you would need to powercreep the fuck out of everything. Better to nerf the problem units and then no unit needs buffs and the balance becomes much better. bring down these characters to the power level of everyone else, not everyone to their level.
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>>548822229
It's like all of those characters (and Luke who does something similar, and Rin who does something similar but doesn't scale as hard) require you to play 30 cards in one turn to pull it off or something and enemies that punish that (see: Seven Arms, Time Eater) would counter it.
You can also add mechanics that require other styles of gameplay to counter such as:
>large flat damage reduction (wants big single hits like Haru or Mei Lin but her ult instead of multihit)
>attacks that do things that are VERY bad if not mostly/fully shielded, requiring you to run vanguard
>meaningful cleave fights, not shitty adds that don't really matter while you just care about ST bursting the boss
>enemies with flat damage reflect per hit taken (Morimens counter)
idk just add some shit that requires other comps, and sometimes let the ST cardspam go wild
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>>548823129
ZZZ made 10s of millions when it first released and still had a relaunch
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Chizuru is the best dps in the game
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>>548822992
Chiziru does feel good to play though, I'm really enjoying the retrain and card cost reduction mechanic.
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>try out the free Chizuru in the story
>stack bind
>this fucker just taunts and discards your cards
>all that effort wasted
Even with the misplay this takes too much effort to justify the payout
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>>548823156
Better not be loot…
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>>548822747
>Fortitude makes you basically immune to damage
Fortitude doesn't affect fixed damage
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>>548820290
Get good writers.
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>>548823226
>If you wanna bring sort of spamming unit, bring a shielder or get fucked.
Then you just get Tressa with that one shield scroll on her, and by the time you stop gaining shields, Cassius will have given you enough Fortitude that it doesn't matter.
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Forbidden card discourse is worse than character discourse. I can't wait for this season to end and hope they never revisit season cards.
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>>548823293
are you one of those retards that thinks relaunch means big update?
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>>548823553
Concession accepted.
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>>548823226
>You should not be able to play 20, 0 cost cards.
Oh, and also, I think there is literally an achievement for doing this. I think it goes even higher than 20.
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>>548822891
basado people take this shit way to seriously posting OH NO NO NO BRICKED having a chuckle and fucking off is where its at
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>>548821443
Trvke
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>>548822698
People are literally just shitposting the entire thread
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Why did they make the 3* partners so strong
or rather, why did they make 4* and 5* partners so weak???
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How much will shitmonkeys screech when they indirectly nerf OP comps like they did in E7?
Now that they're checking the top 1000 they have more than enough data for anything they need
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>>548821443
>but if they do that I'm just quitting.
bye felicia
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This game is so good
Why are mobile games this good now
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How fucking lucky do you have to be to get to 30% DoT with Tressa with just substats
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>>548822285
Our current teams are just really strong though, they don't deal infinite damage.
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>>548823915
They're unironically bad at math and didn't realize the difference between additive and multiplicative bonuses. That's the only explanation that makes any sense, as retarded as it is.
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Has anyone taken a step back to get an unbiased perspective on the current state of the game?
-Every new character released there is a sense of confusion as they're underwhelming in comparison to the general pool units.
-Not only are they underwhelming, they significantly under perform in Chaos and require specific Epiphanies to work
-Higher rarity partners are so undertuned that developers need to massively buff them in order to be competitive with 3* ones
-The meat of the content loop has a whopping FIFTY FIVE PERCENT failure rate
-Not only must you CLEAR this content, you must win the RNG lottery for half of the roster
-A game solely based around deck building allows you to completely delete your own deck, which in multiple instances is optimal

Something is fundamentally wrong with the design and direction of this game and I'm hearing alarm bells. Either they will need to completely retool the system or Smilegate may need to do something more drastic. Card games are difficult to manage which is why many experience cycles of terrible balance/play-ability and why many many more get shut down by the publisher.
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>>548821443
Retard nigger go away and never come back
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>>548824072
Yes
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>>548822949
why not just play an AFK "game" at that point
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>>548823915
They were too focused on making the higher rarity partner effects hyper specific to their respective combatants.
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>>548822682
She is, but it's more that Hugo and especially Cassius are broken when combined with Tressa.
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>>548824115
Most blatant retarded shit bait I've ever seen
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>>548824115
Its because its an actual game not a theme park for retards
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Thank you for your samefag (You)s
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People saying playing Renoa is like playing Dark World weren't kidding. It feels she sucks early Chaos because she needs a bunch of balanced out epiphanies to work.
Anyone got recs or Save Datas to show? I have absolutely no idea what to gun for with her.
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Rememeber when people said Luke was bad for MONTHS?
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>merely pretending
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>>548824204
talking about you. that what you are when you say a character like tressa, mei lin, and cassius is fine. why don't you go play an afk game?
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>>548824279
It's not bait, you're an idiot or a shill if you think so.
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>remove tier system
>make every character have the same pull rate
>no more bitching about "underwhelming for a 5*" or "too OP for a 4*"
You're welcome Smilegate :)
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>chizuru's best build is just Mei Lin but worse
They're only on the third banner and they're already out of ideas
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>>548823226
Time Eater still dies to a shiv deck btw.
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>>548824478
Yeah and he's still bad.
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For those who want to complete lab 0 weekly progress as quickly as possible
Pick Kyrken's blessing that sets enemy health to 1 for next 3 combats
Path through as many campfires and events as possible, since they're fast and give exp (you don't even need to rest. Just skip)
Once you've done 3 combats, reset
My best run gave me 680~ weekly exp in about 3.5 minutes
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>>548824478
>homosexual image
>homosexual post that is wrong on every level
sasuga
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>>548824115
you forgot the worst of all
>DPS race turn limit basin
>DPS race turn limit 3 boss
>DPS race turn limit leaderboard
>no infinite chaos leaderboard or fun events
>just get 6 perfect deck lottery for your 2 meta DPS
roguelike deckbuilder btw
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>>548824525
That build is bait. Theres a better one
Testing out right now
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>>548824478
CZN needs to steal Hu Tao.
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>>548824503
i'm anti-tress and meilin tho
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>>548824058
I don't know if many of them are, but CHADos KINo KINGmare did take me by surprise.
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>>548816401
You are just a retarded tourist. Probably your 1st or 2nd gacha game.
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>>548824598
They're adding in an endless mode next season.
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>>548823985
>hundreds of hours of deck farming gone and useless
at least in epic toilet you just strip and bench forever and use the gear for someone else
also shitdevs are clearly horrible with balancing seeing current state so they won’t “balance” the characters with a nerf but gut it to being unusable just like in epic shit. gooks will throw a tantrum and send the trucks
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>>548824452
Gun for kisses and pregnancy
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>>548824656
oh ok. implied wrong then
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>>548824598
Its confirmed we're getting a tower content without turn limit
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>>548819943
Yeah the period where you'd be able to talk gameplay ended with Yuki's banner. Now it's all just shitflinging and calling everything a brick
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>>548824115
>Another 'i'm just weawy weawy concerned about the game you guys uwu post
New izzat farming meta
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>>548824115
No, you are just too retarded and gacha brained you truly believe if a game doesn't follow the norm then it's fundamentally wrong.
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>>548822179
Troonjeet....
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>>548824820
Show transactions
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>>548824452
You want the epiphany of the gun to be the upgrade that makes a bullet every turn and copy that couple of times.
Ideally you want the flower to be the "discard all your other combatant cards and make two bullets for each" but that isn't as important as the gun upgrade. Any of the flower epiphanies that discard cards to make bullets are alright.
The rest of the upgrades just try to maximize damage, they aren't as improtant. She's just about crating a trillion bullets and discarding them to draw your entire deck with nia and deal tons of damage in the process. She's really FUN.
This is my "good enough" deck, I only didn't beat the kentris because I have her at 50 and my damage output is ass because my fragments are also ass, but anything else she rapes. I'd be happier if ballad had the epiphany that said "your dirge bullets deal more damage this turn" but well.
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>>548824782
>>548819943
the leaderboard made the issues extremely aparent. this game is donezo. before you can at least feint or close your eyes to the problem.
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>>548824820
Post hand
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>>548824903
Struck a nerve lol
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>>548824903
meant for
>>548824115
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Chaos is a ladder...
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>>548824820
This triggered the jeet.
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>>548822905
Who are you quoting Mr. Schizoid
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What a waste
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>>548824452
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>>548824478
Tier list shitters yes, here on /czn/ the real hub of all CZN knowledge everyone clocked him as a late game character
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>>548824914
Thank you very much bro.
... I assume they didn't do anything about how RNG the Copy thing is, did they?
>>548825151
Thanks too!
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>>548825109
Grab mid and dupe
Trust me
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>>548825093
Two things, newfag. First, greentext isn't always a quote. Second, "schizoid" is a completely different word than "schizo". Hope this helps.
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>>548825265
You're actually retarded lmfao
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>>548824820
Indians real shook ever since this has come to light.
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>>548825226
What they did is allowing you to do the tunnels on the actual GOOD codex (any of the other 5 planets). You know, the ones that unlike the garbage fire that is lab 0 have a guaranteed copy event so the game feels astronomically less shit to play now.
Yes I got that on lab 0. It was awful.
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forgotten combatants:
maribell
amir
haru
lucas
rip bros 2025 - 2025
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>2-set equipment is great and works on everyone
>4-set equipment is hyper-specific and generally ass
why are they like this
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>>548825309
I accept your concession, naive and uneducated newfag.
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>>548825403
thats a good thing retard
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>>548825425
Ok 30yo virgin retard
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>>548825479
seething because you got exposed newfaggot
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>>548825034
lil fanger...
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>>548825382
Oh I see. Is there a specific Chaos for that or can I go into the Void one? Cause that sounds awesome.
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You guys are very obnoxious
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>>548825560
Melty
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>>548824478
>For months
Hutardo your timeline?
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>ooh nice I can get seasonal data from codex chaos now
>it doesn't drop event currency
I guess back to lab0 again...
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get the fuck out then
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Does Cassius need his potential to be usable as a draw machine?
I'm finally investing in him and Tressa but don't have enough stam to farm everything...
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>>548825661
All of the bad parts of the game are bad on purpose.
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>>548825589
The void chaos should be really easy for renoa, that can't go wrong. Same bosses as lab0 but the events are actually good.
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>>548824478
He's bad solely because he's a homo.
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>>548825707
He can draw fine without potentials, his last one just gives him the morale boost for quest completion
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>>548825830
You guys say this but then you take cassius cock
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>>548822698
I want the characters I pay real money on to be at least usable you fucking faggot
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>>548824478
He was always based just because male
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>>548824115
>>548821443
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Now im 100% of my theory
The devs that made the standard characters no longer are employed at the company
>Haru well she is not better but okay I guess
>Yuki well she is not better but okay I guess
>ChIzuru
4* mogs them
It's over for the upcoming characters simple as
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What the FUCK man stop it with the Amirs. Should I build her or what?
How BAD can she be?
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>>548826070
>The devs that made the standard characters no longer are employed at the company
Correct. Whoever made the original Chaos planets and original characters and all the stuff we had in the game at launch - whoever that was is not at SmileGate anymore. If he is still at SmileGate, he was taken off of CZN and is currently working on some future unreleased gacha. Whoever is currently working on CZN is the F team.
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>>548825774
ALRIGHT TIME TO POWER LEVEL WITH RENOA
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Which one?
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>>548826061
I love these clown edits, we need even more
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this is no longer a strategy game
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I wanted to post my thoughts on Yuki now that her banner is done and I've used her for a bit. In short, I think she's too fun to be a brick but not strong enough to be essential.

Yuki is not incredibly strong, not compared to the stuff Mei lin can do. However, she is fun. Fun in a way that I can't say any other character other than Renoa is for me. I have Mei lin; she isn't boring to play, just not fun (She is cute tho)

That's why I'll never really consider her a brick, her gameplay is just too enjoyable for me to think of her as a waste of anchors. I wouldn't worry if you didn't pull her. But if you do pull her, consider investing in her, Anon.
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>can only make it to gold
Cough...go on without me bros...
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You can tell people here are Deckbuilder virgins who have no fucking idea how to play these games and are helplessly trying to follow the same gacha slop formula of other games when it comes to new characters.
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>>548826070
>>548826267
It's over
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>Cassius has to get the "Choose a Quest" epiphany AT ALL COSTS or he's shit
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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>>548819154
it doesn't take long, just a lot of retries
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nice leddit post
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>>548826070
>theory
Literally confirmed bro
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>>548826518
UOH
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>>548826195
Aim for her Upgrades and she will AoE every turn.
I've been using her. While my team gets slower, it also takes overall less damage in Chaos. Rarely reaching into halfway
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>>548824115
Failure in the content loop is not an issue, it’s what happens as a result of failure. This game has the right idea of save data + trauma etc etc upon failure but their balancing is so shit nobody appreciates this feature that ties into the core lore concept, mostly thanks to being a gacha made to milk fools who still think Smilegate has an iota of credibility,
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>>548826479
Gonna tell you a secret bro you can just put Cassius on Team 1, take the outbreak of war quest upgrade and then reset the fight if you don't get the one you want, a reset is only like a few seconds.
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>>548826581
Where?
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>>548825943
Nice projections, faggot.
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>>548826518
UOH give her to me already Smilegate
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I swear they swapped the epiphany appearance rate between DT and normal runs... I'm getting like 2x more epiphanies early doing normal runs...
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>>548826945
>V
>M
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Are you fuckers gonna doompost every single time a new character comes out?
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>>548822094
>the meta is to remove all character's cards
terrific game design
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>>548826657
Do metallization stacks disappear on use? Can they stack infinitely?
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>>548827078
Its ragebaiting from people who don't even play this game, just addicted to shitposting since the thread is popular
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>>548822094
>>548827130
first deck builder?
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>>548827078
when they're below average ye
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do tunnels only spawn in the zero thingie or can they just not spawn sometimes? I went into the regular chaos just to test Chizurape and didn't get one on either floor
she's pretty fun by the way
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>>548827078
>CP hidden within the image
NOPE
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Nah chizuru is broken.
The only card you have to remove from her deck is her shield.

That is it, she doesn't need any babysitting in terms of deck building.
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>>548827142
Not sure on a limit, but the reason I used upgrades in plural is the sustain them. Hurricane will spend up to 2, but the other upgrade will generate metallization every turn.
It's how I use her. Trying to spam extra attacks with shielding hasn't been as good.
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Why not just make a 5* who has a specific niche while being as strong as the standard launch5* roster?
Surely not every single gimmick has been claimed, right?
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saving until we get a hot clown girl
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>>548827213
you dumb nigger, I'm not pulling characters to remove all of their cards.
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>>548827078
Not if they are good AND sexy
If broken units end up being m*le I'll doompost even harder
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>Nerf Mei Lin and Tressa
>Cassius, Hugo and Luke get ignored
What is the problem with your guys? Are all of you gay guys wanting to sabotage the game or what?
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>>548815441
60crit 200cdmg minimum sprinkle in 800+attack. Whatever trash you got obviously isnt it.
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Pity on the new char banner carries over right?
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>>548827618
yes
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>add a solo mode
>one unit on an endurance run
>can reroll your epis on certain encounters
>also have rare encounters where you get a chance to get a card from any character, even unowned ones
>data cap is actually how much cards you can potentially store
>cards each have their own data value
>the "good" cards cost more to slot
>you can't add more cards once you are over the cap
>removing cards is free (other than shit like curses)
>strict card count minimum limit
>cute sticker reward for your unit depending on how far you can reach
Good or not? Personally I just want more roguelike and would rather spend time IN the Chaos rather than grind for decks to be used outside.
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>>548825250
>unique
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>>548821840
You can build Cassius instead. Though you will be forced to make an even more precise deck
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The only bad thing about going back to normal Zero Chaos is that you can't get the new equipment right?
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>>548828169
and the event currency
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>>548827041
>moving the goal post
>implying I'm not using Mika for her nopan ass
>implying Cassius isn't a wheelchair too
I accept your concession.
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veronica's unigram convo is too cute...
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>>548827675
Chaos is so fucking fun when you’re not playing it to build a deck for some DPS-race shit content and you can just buy and grab all the cards you want without caring about cost.
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>>548827675
There's so many interesting modes they can add. Something like this does sound fun.
I personally want a seeded daily run with leaderboard (most deckbuilder slop games add this).
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>>548820646
I said throughout the entire day do not roll her and especially not the partner. If someone rolled the latter, they deserve this outcome.

Btw that chorizo is using yuri or ritochka for their ego effects
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Cassius was so fun to read in the new chapter that I kind of forgot the writing is shit for a moment.
Too based.
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>>548828602
males in this game are too based for the w*men
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>>548828235
>using Mika for her nopan ass
You and every other motherfucker playing this game, of course
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>Strongest character in the game
>No point in playing anything else

What's the problem? why are autists like this
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Chiilling?
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>>548828873
What's the Chrono Ark equivalent of the Watcher/Mei Lin?
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I love booba
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>>548821060
Cassius. Cap quest completions per turn, say 3.
Opening found unique.
Repose:exhaust or unique
Kowalski:exhaust or unique
Spire: 5max
Unity:move unique or doesnt reduce cost.
Dance of the demon: 10 hits max.
Shadow reload: unique
Rin needs a touchup too for safe measure but i lack her to properly understand the problem cards.

If anyone disagrees your a nigger faggot. These need to happen.
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how/where do i turn on the new chaos event text skip they said they added
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>>548828873
imagine the watcher was the first character and you had to pay for the rest
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>>548827478
uh oh melty
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You guys keep repeating Mei Lin but she's not the problem, she's a 5* too
A bunch of different teams can clear the vanguard and get a good score without mei lin
The second team however? Its all fucking Tressa
The top 1000, its all fucking tressa, a 4*
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>>548828985
nobody uses basics in Ark so there isn't one
closest is probably the dps Pressel build but not really
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>>548828985
sword autist
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>>548829123
if you want to suggest limiting shit like draw power too, then you are nerfing everyone including shit decks. yet these shit dps don't seem to break the game even with veronica.

how about we start nerfing morale too then? nerf rei morale to 2. nerf all her buffs in half or make them unique.
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>tfw not jealous of all the godrolls with 2-3+ 5*
yep I'm thinking the balance is so shit that I feel like I'm not that far off from e1-e2+ units
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>>548829123
If Opening Found was unique as-is then Beryl would be garbage. I agree that having 4 of the damn things is excessive, but playing with only 1 is genuinely terrible. They would need to buff it to shoot twice at least.
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>>548829395
Don't worry. They will add the safeguard like they did with E7. Where if you debuff the boss past 4-5 he immediately punishes you and cleanses all debuffs.
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It's very telling that basically all of anon's suggestions for game balance is "make the game significantly less fun"
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>>548829395
Veronica is very much a problem. Repose and kowalski not being exhausted is an insane problem. Its consistent ridiculous draw and why people create no card decks on the 3rd

Mei lin is exacerbated because of it. But mei lin is a problem. Its too much dmg for very little by having passion teammates.

0 reason to ever use anybody but V for every single team that isnt tressa
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>AIEEEEE TRESSA IS STACKING DEBUFFS MAKE IT STOPPPP

It's Kiris again lmao
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>>548829768
Your idea of fun is a copypasted build that takes 0 thought to play.
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>bitch boy choices
Protosissies...
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>>548829901
no one plays your dogshit games anon
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>try to message Rei for the new missions
>"currently away"
Fuck you mean currently away, does she not have her phone on her?
Where the FUCK is she
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fuck out of here e7 cuck
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>>548828947
It's not bad with Forbidden Eternal Hunger.
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>>548829901
this character is a piece of shit in all but the easiest pve content monkey. tressa is the best at all content
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>>548829548
Your a fucking 40iq mongoloid if you do not understand how insane veronica is to the game health.
There is no problem in multiple candy bars, snack times,gear bags, reorganize.
There is very much a problem with a 0 cost non exhausting draw 2.
The others are all 1 and done. Grow up nigger, its the most egregious elephant kn the room
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>>548830024
Use the other tab
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>>548829953
the true korean experience...
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>>548830024
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>>548829123
>limit all the fun combos instead of making other good options
I'm glad you're just some retarded faggot on the internet that will never influence anything meaningful.
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>>548829903
My idea of fun is having fun. Not... not having fun.
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>>548829123
Kill yourself.
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>>548819294
I wonder if this is really better than having a retain Beryl in that slot.
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>>548830089
>there is no problem with snack time!because rei has other benefits besides draw
what does veronica do? a shitty extra attack and draw. thats it. so you draw 2 twice and then you just have shitty extra attacks. kill yourself.
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>>548830024
You know where she's been anon.
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>>548829901
go back to your shithole, dumbass
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>>548829768
It's the latest jeet shitposting tactic.
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>>548830089
nia can recycle a draw 1 ap 1 card and has draw/discard from multiple cards she can dupe and reuse. nia would just be better in every way
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>>548830282
Uh oh melty
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>>548830024
She's busy with real protag of this game
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>>548830571
no argument. you had a piece of shit suggestion tressa nigger. only tressa mei lin and cassius are problems.
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>the new leaderboard game mode has a weekly
FOR WHAT FUCKING REASON
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they will never nerf anything

they plan to buff characters apparently so what they'll do is make everyone mei lin tier
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>>548830509
The forbidden card enabling it is borrowed power and wont be usable in the next season's content. Itll be new borrowed power.
Get the tunnel and your deck is now a season 1 and not a season 2 deck.

That is par for the course of borrowed power and its entire purpose. To enable strong combos for a time.
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>>548830509
Look up what the card Precision Aim does.
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>>548829768
You need to understand that these people have 0 understanding of the game's mechanics they only know how to pilot the "correct build"
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>>548830691
They're not opposed to indirect nerfs, in fact they already did one
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>>548830883
the leaderboard exposes the fuck out of their shit balance. they wont be exposed to direct ones after that. how many buffs does tressa mei lin and cassius get this round?
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>>548830883
those are fine, even though not very elegant

an elegant way to nerf mei and tressa would be the boss to damage you on each card use kinda like the Heart from Slay the Spire
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Anyone complaining about Mei Lin or Veronica in this mode in particular is retarded.
The first half is piss easy and can be killed under 5 turns with plenty of teams.
It's the 2nd half that exposes how retarded infinite combos are.
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>>548830509
Nia is draw neutral, Veronica is draw positive, it's that simple.
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>>548827078
Yuki actually is bad though.
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the major problem of this game is that it's braindead easy to draw your entire deck and even play it
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>>548827078
Indians gotta farm their social credit somehow
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>>548827078
how about making a good character
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>>548831246
no its attacks that scale infinitely from that draw. draw your entire deck with haru, yuki, chizuru and then what? your damage is still shit.
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Done with Tressa... Time for Reidesu
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>>548831383
You didn't beat the game
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>>548831498
I don't beat the game, I beat my meat to chizu chu...
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>>548830997
There's a limited pool of characters atm that do fairly different things, this boss is largely a ST hitcount check from different cards that also happens to be void weak, and spamming lots of individual hit cards is Tressa's niche (and she's void). If the boss didn't have the defense buff on single-card multihits then MeiLin in team 2 would be higher score than what we have now. It could just as easily mechanically block Tressa or block MeiLin harder in fight 1.
I actually have some suspicion that Team2 MeiLin might be stronger than Tressa.
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>>548831375
People are really suggesting we need nerfs to dogshit dps when they say veronica is a problem lmao. Lets make yuki, haru, chizuru even worse.
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>>548831605
based
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Chizuru's design is too bland and safe. Is everything they release going to be this half-baked and boring? If they weren't micropenis koriggers they would have gone the whole way and made her completely hogtied, ballgagged, blindfolded and made her get around in a psychically controlled mech suit.
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>>548831676
>why ever roll another dps because mei lin and tressa exist. Hur hur infinite dmg.
>why ever roll another support when free infinite draw exists
its easy to see how brown you are. Only brownoids think veronica is fine
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>>548830671
So true, Luke doing 50k+ damage per turn is completely fine, we should nerf the fun out of the freebies instead.
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>>548830997
Didn't they say their internal testing showed balance was good lmao. PFFFFTT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>548830690
they need a lot of data for their balance team trust the process
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>>548832018
They do not play test the game, there's no reason for Khalipe and Kayron to have gotten nerfed from the beta when Mei Lin exists in her current state.
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>>548831994
I like it, its sexy but tasteful
And I say that as a coomer
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I haven't done a run in three days.
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>>548832002
new support has draw and morale, new support has draw and vulnerable debuffs, new support searches specific cards, new support has draw and heals, new support has x and x. instead of draw and extra attacks. Why do you think another support can't have a draw 2?
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Where is the Orleatards? Fuck your guys, I really believed she was the OP healer and build her with full potential yet she is worse than every single 4* controller, what a waste of resource.
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We have ourselves the best izzat farmers in Manila /czn/ thriving
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>>548832008
i don't see any lukes on the right side leaderboard. seems like you are comparing the shitty boss where orlea can one shot an enemy, you know the ones where mei lin was doing over 100k per turn
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any suggestions for a comp for running chizuru through chaos?
tried bit of rei + tressa + chizuru, and, maybe i'm just too used to running double controller comps, but it felt like sustain was bit lacking
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>>548832261
Draw 2 that doesnt exhaust that is 0cost. It doesnt get better.
Case in point: we already got gearbags with morale or whatever else you want.
You and everyone else will still use veronica. Its as good as it gets.
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What the hell is this?
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>>548832512
thats with an epiphany, and others can have a similar epiphany if the epiphany doesn't hand out buffs. or if it does, it can keep a cost.
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>>548831994
Bro she's getting raped in her 2nd breakdown
How is that safe
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>>548832261
We've already seen two upcoming support kit leaks.
One support has an upgrade with initiation that gives -1 AP cost to all skill cards (obviously fucking broken), and the other one has a card that plays all order cards in hand, and applies a debuff that procs damage every time the enemy is hit.
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>>548832523
>less than 10%cdmg
back to the mines
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Why is everyone meltying the game is f2p friendly and you can score well with a base roster
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>>548832512
You early 80% of your points for the leaderboard mode in the second fight. Why isn't Veronica in any of those teams if she's so OP? It's always Tressa + Mika and then Hugo or Cassius. Where is Veronica?
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>>548832540
Thats when u go on discord and ragebait all the troons.
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When people ask for character buffs, or stronger character releases, what they are really asking for is another flavor of gaming journalist mode. We already have a f2p-friendly team that can clear all content braindead. If shitters need to cling to their Tressas or Mei Lins in order to get rewards... let them. Who fucking cares? Surely you gacha-brained retards don't only play games on easy mode. There's nothing wrong with rolling for characters that look hot AND provide challenging gameplay.
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>>548832828
why not play an afk game if you just want to play the same shit until eos?
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>>548832932
kek
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>trying to max out my codex
i should go for chaos orb fights over dimension tunnels, right?
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>>548829953
>just a tiny one
AaaAAAAIIiiEeeEEEEEEEE
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>>548832540
>Have to use discord
niggers
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>>548833024
depends on what you want to build, I'd go for the tunnel
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>>548832883
Shes already in team 1 for everyone. Are u fucking dense?
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>>548832828
So you are saying no character is worth rolling for correct? You are right. Just select mei lin/veronica whatever you are missing and then cassius/tressa/mika and you dont have to worry since no new character is at even half their power level.
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>>548832828
Izzat farming hub
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>infinite scaling
They don't scale infinitely, they just scale too hard compared to others.

Just calculate the amount of %Attack Damage Mei and Tressa dish out compared to other "infinite scalers" like Gayron or Beryl. Those two also scale "infinitely" but much slower.

Also all you need to make the players use different comps and teams and just make varied enemies that almost hard counter some strategies.
The problem is that the fucking speedrun-like content does NOT help.
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it's honestly kinda sad how cuckposters got BTFO so hard by the new story writer they are either posting old shit or stuff out of context
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do i go atk necklace and only roll for dot substat on tressa relics?
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>>548833024
The orb rewards from enemies are pitiful compared to a boss kill, I never do them.
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>>548833280
So you are saying that easy mode is the only way to play a game? Any semblance of challenge is too much? If characters aren't able to trivialize the hardest content like the f2p-team then they are worthless? That's pretty fucking embarrassing bro.
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>>548833131
>>548833437
thanks bros
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>>548833347
>event starts with renoa jealous of yuki
>now yuki and her are jealous of chizuru
>the three of them will get jealous of sereniel flying (you) away
Yep, finally a good story
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>>548833745
get me out of this Sex and the City episode
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>>548827520
You do that already rajeesh
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>>548833324
Double Aromata Mei Lin actually scales infinitely too.
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I have neither Veronica or meilin so this melty is nonexistent it’s just for a sticker anyways lol I guess jeets must get the sticker that looks like literal shit for their poopoo gods
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>>548833745
Sereniel gives the "girl who sexually harasses you without realizing it" vibes so they'll be envious of her but she doesn't even realize that what she's doing looks flirty or sexual
you know like hugging and stuff out of nowhere
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hello customer service? i wanna refund brickzuru please
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>>548833891
Post hand
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>>548833917
It does not stay between turns, do not believe everything you read here.
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>>548834017
you need to satisfy her AND her demon too
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Now that we're not glued to lab0 anymore, what is the best chaos to farm a beryl opening found deck?
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>>548834198
I like chaos 3 which is just lab 0 with non cucked events but minus the good equips (beryl doesn't care much)
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>just got gold at the new event boss
go on... without me... bros.....
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>>548834198
if yours is on 2p agony and u got a way to do agony. then blue pots 20%multi dmg to agony targets. or swamps 10%attack trinket and 6%crit chest, or ruins 30% dmg if target is alone trinket. theres always the extra dmg wep but there is good strong weps in those other places too.

and of course the broken ass 12% attack cthululu wep
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>Chizuru
>divine epiphany that gives her AP
>Inhibit
fucking gooks..
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>>548832443
Mei Lin does similar numbers to Luke though, not this 100k per turn figure you pulled out of your arse.
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>>548834472
gold looks better, protos-dono
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>>548833917
She doesn't, the buff resets every turn.
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>>548834367
>>548834541
I'll give it a try, thanks bros
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>>548834472
gold looks better kanchud
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I hope this is the last DPS-race shit content we get. I’ve had enough of this bullshit.
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first PC crash in the cutscene recovering from Chizu mindrape ughhh
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Guys I just finished Chapter 2 and I can't continue to Chapter 3, what's going on here?
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>>548835231
they said next patch has a new survival mode at least
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>>548835231
next we are get tower content
kill and survive as many floors as possible to get loot
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>>548835292
have you tried clicking on the giant lock and seeing what it tells you
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i thought atleast getting 500k wouldn't be too bad. i am getting 300k. is cassius that good for tressa? i am really not in the mood to level another character after chizuru, plus i gotta farm potentials
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>Release competitive leader boards
>Game is immediately exposed as a piece of garbage with the worst game balance and design ever conceived
Literally how do the devs come back from this? The game is slathered in shit from the core and there will never be a unit worth pulling unless everything scales infinitely and has 0 cost.
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>>548835357
>Most common phrases said before betrayal.
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i really hope this game doesnt turn into yugioh and become balanced around opening hand one-turn kill combos

it's fun building and playing that a little bit but it gets very stale very fast and is extremely restrictive of the design space for future combatants and also just content design and enemy mechanics

i don't see the course changing without nerfs/redesigns which are going to cause extreme melties
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who should I use this and the event dupes on? kayron has been carrying me pretty hard so far but outside of his second one his dupes don't seem that good
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>>548835624
they can easily make bosses that lock out card uses after a certain amount or make the boss gain higher defense the more cards are used. i don't expect that kind of gatekeeping content until later though.
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>>548835686
Get Khalipe to complete your collection.
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mei lin, rin, hugo, or e1 veronica
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>>548835838
I don't have mats to raise an another character...
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>>548835924
one day you will have
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>>548835749
why not when we have characters that can easily draw whole decks and also have characters make them playable. its inevitable unless nerfs come out.
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Despite all the discussion, I don't see anyone posting their teams and scores.
What's up with that?
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>>548835961
one day I'll lose my 10th 50/50 in a row and get her
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>>548835624
>doesnt turn into yugioh and become balanced around opening hand one-turn kill combos
For this, it needs to remove competitive restrictive modes, which includes Basin
You literally won't ever have freedom of choice if your only choice is "kill as fast as possible"
Meta will always be shaped by the objectives
They still were meme'd for being strong, but people weren't losing their minds with Mei Lin or Tressa clearing Kentris or Family Head
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>>548835686
Are Orlea's dupes good? I literally never hear anyone talk about them as being that beneficial
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>>548836057
turns out it's actually hard
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>>548836084
Or one day you’ll have everyone at E6 and still won’t have Khalipe because you refused to pick her there.
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>>548836057
I'm grinding chaos for Chizuru decks. Haven't touched the leaderboard slop yet.
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>>548833187
And team 2 is far more impactful for score, so she should obviously be in team 2 instead of she's so OP.
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>>548836134
Same with Renoa honestly.
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>>548836215
Jesus fine
happy?
now tell me who to use my event dupe on
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can you save event dupes for the future or no?
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>>548835624
You will get bosses whose ability consists of essays to lock out every OP combo available.

I wouldn't be surprised if the dev balance their game with chatgpt.
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>>548818557
kek
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>get good deck
>Trauma
>go to center
>out of treatments
>erase memory
>erased the fucking deck as well
I'm about to McFucking had it.
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>>548836463
save it for a holiday or anniversary character bwo
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>>548836463
You could just hold your selector and your dupe for when you need them. Why are you so desperate to spend everything?
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>>548836057
Because apparently very few people have grinded out the needed decks.
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>>548836579
>>erase memory
>>erased the fucking deck as well
that's like the whole point bwo
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>>548836463
Save it for summer Adelheid(micro bikini)
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>>548835624
>balanced around opening hand one-turn kill combos
All card games end like this.
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>>548836463
The first true limited they will be releasing at the end of the season.
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>>548836659
I live in the here and now and not 10 years from now
also I thought you have to use the event dupe thing the second you buy it
and it's not like more things are going to get added onto the selector
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>>548836140
>>548836223
>>548836665
It's not terribly hard, I spent a couple of runs getting an okay Chizuru and Tressa deck and got my 500k easily.
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Why can't they copy HSR where every patch they add new powercreep?
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>>548836962
They would have to play their game and understand how it works to make intentional designs. Whoever is in charge clearly doesn't. Whoever that did clearly is no longer there.
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If Haru were a launch 5* she wouldn't have max 5 stacks on her anchor. I wonder what they learned from CBT and internal testing (if any). Bunch of paycheck stealers.
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Can this work with Rin instead of Mei Lin?
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>>548836940
Tressa is mandatory though so you're kind of fucked if you haven't built her...
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Honest question, is it really considered a brick pulling for new units to have fun with when I already won the game by having Mei Lin / Tressa?
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>>548836940
My Tressa and Cassius are basically untouched at level 40. Only leveled them for the rolls.
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I forgot about Yuki
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>>548837258
>600k is still platinum
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>>548837439
No it isn't. It's just a bunch of jeets shitting themselves because other characters are too hard for them to play.
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>>548837630
kek
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>>548837630
it's over for us anon
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>>548837630
>>548837840
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Rate the team
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What's the highest tier of save data limit you can get with nightmare?
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>>548837671
>thinking jeets can delay gratification
lol
lmao, even
Only the white man will be able to pull when an actual good character releases.
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>>548838014
Two and a half Brick
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why the fuck is this one not a 0 cost
what the fuck were they thinking
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>>548838014
Japanese/10
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>>548836896
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment
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>>548838167
She's supposed to be bad on purpose.
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>>548838167
because then it would be good. god epiphany it or wait for adelhide
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>>548838235
not readin allat
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WHAT

WHAT

WHAT???? OFF OF THE STANDARD BANNER????? AFTER I LOST HER 50/50 ON LAUNCH?
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>>548838343
no one is limited
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>>548837671
Brown hands typed this post
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>>548838343
all units are standard anon
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>>548822179
>relaunch
holy shit you are a fucking retard.
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>>548838235
Doesn't apply here, the longer you wait and save the more likely you are to get a brick instead of the actually good starting units.
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>>548838343
>lost 50/50
>he actually spent his premium currency on a standard character.
imagine not saving rolls for a real limited unit.
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>>548838343
I got her again on Yuki's banner and got Yuki again on Chizuru's banner. I have both E1
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ZZZ is in the best state its ever been.
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>>548838448
White hands don't mind a challenge. Brown hands expect handouts. Keep begging for buffs, I'll be enjoying the game in the meantime.
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Cassius is more important than Mei Lin for the leaderboard, right? I can only raise 1
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>>548822179
You're a a brown faggot
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>>548838617
Just like Genshin
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mmmh yes this great rift content is great, this is what we all asked for mmh great game only gooks can make such engagingly hard yet fair content
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>>548838856
if hugoless then yes, if u got hugo. then hugo tressa and meilin will be more than fine. it wont get you the top score without R V M, M C T howerver
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I wonder what this thread would be like if the Owen drama never happened.
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>>548838617
Is the joke here that ZZZ dying is for the best? That's pretty funny.
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>>548839078
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Holy shit lol seeing these basic attack nukes with chizuru + rei morale build is so satisfying
10K per basic attack
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>>548839078
>no free gibs
instead of gameplay we would talk about the 0 rolls being given
owen was kind of a bless and a curse at the same time
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>>548839078
Not much better because jeets would still be farming balance drama
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>>548838014
Breast sweat
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>ZZZ
>dying
lmao it''s going to outlast this garbage 2 times mihoYo is just the safest investment and qualities rn
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btw how's the new counterattack? they update the math on it right?
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>>548839424
go back to playing it if you like it so much
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>>548839078
>Owen
Sorry sis but owen is a king around these parts, without him we would be months away from the 300 selector and 1 less limited pity
All the pulls also came right when the pool of standard characters was still clean, it won't be the same in a couple of months
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>>548839179
I was testing this earlier, honestly seems better than the x50 multihit shit
Earlier buildup and payoff
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>>548838578
you dumb nigger hes talking about using selector and the dupe item
and it applies to all the retards who rolled yuki and now chizuru
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>Chizuru's best role is as a 1 card support for Mei Lin
What the fuck is wrong with this game?
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>>548839014
I have Hugo. My current plan is to use Rin in Mei Lin’s place since I don’t have Veronica.
R R H
T C M
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>gacha investment
Do hoyotards really? Is that why they obsessed with monthly revenue
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>>548839491
these renoas are so dumb and cute
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>>548839460
it does more damage because it procs vulnerable. its a lot worse because it procs vulnerable
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>>548838337
I know.
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This clown is so bored of his mihoyo slop that he shitposts here all day kek
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No point in rolling for anything anymore. i have veronica, mei lin, tressa, cassius. holy shit game
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>>548838014
lewd lewd safehorny
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>>548839665
Welp, shielder found dead in the ditch
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>>548838167
broooo that would be too broken
we can't have that
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I'm a hardcore grinder now....
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>>548838594
lmao this happened to me too
got e1 haru from yuki's banner
then got e1 yuki from chizuru's banner
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>>548840518
Did you at least get them early? Because I did, otherwise I would be here shitting and pissing and farting.
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>>548839665
It always procd vulnerable though, at least now it does more damage.
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>tried farming Zero instead of the event
>3 epiphanies straight away
>>>max tier available is 7
Oh boy
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>>548838167
Bro stop asking for powercreep
She NEEDS to be forced to spend 1ap to activate her kit and she HAS to have restrict on her upgrade or the game will EOS
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>>548840636
Even when we win, we lose.
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>>548840613
Yuki yes, Haru no...
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yukibros... chizurubros...
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I spent 4 hours clearing non codex content, between story mode and the fucking trillion combat missions out there.
And I still haven't cleared the basin.
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>>548840737
>F2P squad on the right
>Premium squad on the left
Perfectly balanced game, jeets lost.
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>nothing to do but same boss and same chaos for next 20 days
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>>548839665
let me guess: it still doesn't crit
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>tfw no Cassius
I will just kiss myself
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>>548840737
left side can be easily done with yuki. its the right one thats supposed to be the chizuru shill boss for score and tressa shits on everything, mei lin included.
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>>548840725
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>>548840737
Why is Cassius picked for the second map? To shuffle the hand when you get blasted with the hand traps?
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>>548840737
Bwos how to play Cass?
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Some tips for farming chizu decks
>Use mika +1 carry, can be anyone but vero as always works really well
>Get the fate to remove 2 cards
>Remove source of water + chizu shield.
>Aggressively remove all uniques from the other 2 combatants in every shop or event, this will exponentially increase your chance for dupes and divine eps on chizu
>Get all her eps early if you can
>You can remove the shibari or not depending on what you're going for
Mika is a lot more stable in chaos even if her best support partner is Rei by far for save content
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does chuzuzuzu have like an upside or something? all I know is the slow infinite scale multihit. guess I just have to figure out how to make her a support or sub-dps
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>>548838167
Smilegate here.
After reviewing our data, we learned that a 1 cost free deck thinner on single target fights is too strong, we're now increasing its cost to 2.
Our interal data showed these results btw, do not complain.
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>>548840815
>not premium comps on both side
>f2poor being better than a paygod comp
the brownjeet is (You) albeit
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>>548840737
Left could literally be anyone + Mei Lin and Veronica

I could enter inside the game and become a combatant whose cards are "Masturbate to Oppai Loli +3 Hit" and "[Retain] Cry in a corner" and those two would still get rank 1 in a team with me
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>>548840840
Slowpoke tranimaleposter...You can do any chaos for season content now
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>>548840737
Imagine not having a godtier Chizuru deck on day 1 after she drops. This game sucks /s
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>>548840840
bro we can play the other chaos now...
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>>548840840
We can farm other Chaos now
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>>548841130
xplane
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okay i get it sg i will build my mengpo pussy and hamster cloaca...
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>>548840989
I think her basic attack spam build has potential
Her basics can hit like a truck + multihit
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>>548841093
I already did the boss, no reason to build anymore deck, and building new character take fucking forever
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>>548841043
I don't pretend to be an investor in a gacha company so no, I'm not brown, unlike you.
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>>548840989
you those aether dogs that take 1 dmg?
she kills them REALLY fast
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>>548841185
He said the truth but also a lie

Tunnels are in the other Chaos
You can get Season 1 decks from tunnels there (even if you dont get any forbidden card)
However you don't get Seasonal tokens or progression from them
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>>548841267
Tressa kill those with 4-5 daggers
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Nice goalpost moving retard
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>>548841120
its been a month and no one is using yuki on the left one either
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Did any of you use the free dupe yet?
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>>548840737
Rin and beryl?
Isn't rei better for rin?
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>>548841185
tunnels can spawn in codex chaos, and if it does the decks will be considered seasonal decks
you don't need to spam lab0 anymore, only if you want the equipment or cards
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>>548835581
I hope he doesn't do it tho, didn't wasted the last few months forcing him to dress up as Renoa and fucking his ass so he could be a submissive cum slut.
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>>548841406
Yea and? I'm talking about Chizuru and not that brick
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>went for void busty sword chizuru
>lost soft pity and got void busty sword rin
>brickzuru is worse than rin
bullet dodged
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Is there a decent video of someone playing through Chaos and explaining deck building/save data in depth?
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You guys realize the ranking cut-offs will get bigger over time right...?
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>>548841349
you idiots can't even shitpost properly jesus christ
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is my Rei deck good?
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>>548841615
Not that it matters if your team isn't meilin veronica
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>>548841516
When people say rin is good theyre not talking about a e0 rin bro
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>>548840989
You can go for the basic attack multihit instead of the bind. The create 2 Moonslash is pretty neat
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>>548841615
>500K will be silver rank on the last day.
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>he's a harulet
>he's a yukilet
>he's a chizulet
Hehehe
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS CANT BE HOW WILL I GET MY SHINY POOP STICKER NOW AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>548841482
That Beryl is just a draw/ap bot. Most 0-cycles for Rin use Orlea for vuln and Beryl for draw and ap.
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SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR DO NOT INCREASE YOUR SCORE
SAAAAAAAAAAAR I NEED MY EXCLUSIVE RED POOP ICON TO INCREASE MY IZZAT SAAAAR

SAAAAAAAAAR DO NOT USE TRESSAAA!!! DO NOT DO THE COMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>548841934
>MY SHINY POOP STICKER
Indianbro...
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>>548841837
Would be great if it was create 3
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doing chaos with chizuru is such a slog
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Bros, if we all make a bunch of alt accounts, we can dump the leaderboard with a bunch of garbage scores so we can and all make it into the top 1% for the shiny poop sticker...
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>notice you can check other people's decks on the leaderboard
>see a random lucas
>wow i wonder what he did to make him work
>check his deck
i kneel
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>>548842228
This is actually true....isn't it?
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>the grind is actually worse than GW in Grub
My sides.
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>>548842214
No issues here, I had problems with yuki however
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>>548840737
Yuki shreds first half though.
In fact you should use Mei Lin for second half.
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>>548842297
what are you using?
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>>548842260
waiting for a porno save data design to make the leaderboard
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>>548842260
He's like a ninja
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I wish Chizuru could stack wisps with her own attacks without needing Karma Flame, and Karma Flame would instead allow allies to also stack it for her
Right now, killing enemies with Karma Flame feels honestly bad
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>>548842309
You 100% need Mika for the 2nd side because the boss hits like a truck.

t. died with Mei/Veronica/Rei as my 2nd team
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>>548842214
Feels fine to me. You are pairing her with Rei right? Additive damage buffs go hard with multi-hit attacks.
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>>548842260
what does the talisman do
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Looks better anyway.
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what codex difficulty do you need to achieve to start getting decent savedata levels?
on lab0 you can already farm savedata tier 12-13 easily at difficulty 8
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>>548842516
Gives 1 evade
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>>548842154
Feel like that would be too OP.
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>>548842260
>Lucas, you're in
>Yes! I did it! What do I do, boss?
>You hold the bucket and the charm
>...what?
>That's all.
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>>548842296
Shitposting is one thing, but at least make your lies believable.
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>>548842553
lucas the boytoy...
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>>548842550
This is what most people do. They just fish for 13 on diff 8
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>>548840864
Chizuru would be unironically great for the right side.
The problem is MeiLin and Luke would be even better, and the only way Chizuru would be good is if they removed the anti-MeiLin buff.
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>>548842550
I think codex is capped at 11, 12 in DT mode.
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>>548838856
Yes, he's pretty much mandatory for the second half.
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Shibari more like SHITbari amirite.
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Soooooo if you don't run Mika, how exactly do you survive?
Or is she literally an auto include for every chaos run?
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>>548842748
that would fucking suck actually
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>>548842550
Level 10, it's related to the level of the enemies.

Level 10 in Zero is still lower than 80 (difficulty 8 in event is 80).
It's also a bit of a hassle because rerolling in regular Zero is not as free.
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I invested all in on E2 Haru. How bricked am I?
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>>548842286
technically yes
you need to get to level 40 or something to do the event though
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>>548842767
Can I swap cassius for Nia if I don't wanna level males?
She can cycle the deck
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>>548842854
just wait for the shield rift boss TRVST
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>>548842824
Other healers can heal too, there's also nun partner with auto heal.
For high level you use a tank.
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>>548841837
Not entirely convinced two 2-hit basic attacks are better than a single 4-hit attack that also scales the moon card's damage.
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>>548842832
At least you're no longer restricted to Lab0.
Some characters don't really need that much data anyways.
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>>548842854
This bricked
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Was building Renoa a waste of resources if I had Rin the whole time? Also still unsure if I want Chizuru. Better than both?
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>>548842883
It's over...
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>>548842990
What did they change?
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I rolled chizuru and her partner am i bricked
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>>548843000
>Mei Lin
>veronica
>hugo
seems like a normal account
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Hugokeks on neutering watch
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>>548842903
Cassius is for infinite combo with Tressa. If you don't do that you don't need him.
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>>548842824
the 3* psionic partners heals after every battle
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Why did CZN succeed where Stella Sora failed?
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>>548842296
Nigga no it isn't minimums just raised 1b
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>>548843000
>3 Yuki's
Brick city...
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>>548843158
One is a fun game the other isn't
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>>548843158
Game's fun!
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>devs already said they are going to buff characters
>metaniggers are still concern about muh best dps character
Just kys at this point. Play who you like instead of chasing the meta, retards
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>>548843068
Nah people are just dramatic, she's a bit above average. I still think the full AP restriction is a bit bullshit tho, letting the team generate 1-2 ap wouldn't be gamebreaking.
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>add leaderboard
>normies start seeing how bad balance is
RPG-8 to their own foot...
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>>548843158
Knots
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>>548843075
>>548843195
Okay dokay but check this out
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>>548843285
She's been really fun to use, which is the most important thing.
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>rank 1 on Asia
So it always ends up landing on the Rising Dragon Spire... damn.
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>>548843251
>the waifufag paypigs for a png he can download for free
nft level retard
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>>548843251
But you're not gonna get the best medals if you don't follow the meta. What if you missed the rose poop? Your account and life is bricked forever.
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>>548843328
Still not disastrous.
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>>548843383
meilin and vero are making fun of everyone else...
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>>548842989
It's more like faster payout but yea, gotta test more honestly. That's why any doomposting is just shitposter and you shouldn't listen to any of them
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>>548843158
We are Smilegenerous, they are Yoslop.
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>>548843000
At least I'm having fun ahahaha....
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>>548843383
check his other cards for +AP
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this is on par with that Mika [Finale] 1 draw or ap
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>>548843572
just delete the brick card bwo
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>>548843547
literally me but instead of bricki its brickuru
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>>548841553
yeah, i can stream for u for 10minutes and do so. its not hard. regardless, you want to
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>>548843440
Ive probably spent $200 in the last week
That ive been playing
X(
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>>548843648
You have
Mei Lin Veronica Rei
Hugo Tressa Mika

This is top scoring right now, they're the two best teams in the game

Veronica + Mika in particular carries you through any Chaos
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I'm going to reach the Core of Discord, whatever that means
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>>548842260
his ego draws 3 and does aoe dmg. its goated. on top of likely on ritochka or yuri for even more support capabilities
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>>548843564
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Ooopsie lol
Is this a cutter cuttie
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>>548843610
it has some good epiphanies. the -1AP for two cards and -2ap for one are nice
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>>548843786
final boss that doesnt really offer any bonus reward, just get the achievement and banner art and never do it again
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>>548843756
Ok I will try those teams!
How do I use Yuki and Reona in a team
I like them
They are pretty
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>>548843482
Skill card epiphanies will definitely be better if Adelheid actually releases without adjustment. Big IF there though...
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>leaderboards show up
>how do I build X?
>what epis for Y?
WHORES. Every single one of you
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>>548843158
People don't know about Smilegate parent company is huge company in KR
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Now that the dust has settled, what is your FINAL verdict on chizuru?
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>>548843903
Gives a piece of mythic gear, not too bad
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>>548843930
We played for fun
Now we play FOR REAL
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>>548843804
and still anons think
>Draw 3 other chara cards with no exhaust is balanced durrrr durrr.
troglodytes. this shit is repeated every cycle ad infinitum
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>>548843874
anon told me the forbidden card is the same thing but better
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should I pull if I have Rin?
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>>548843572
>cant gain AP
>gains AP
make it make sense
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>>548843854
I always keep it because it's an upgrade and does something on the turn you use it, but it's not essential
you could check the top teams in the leaderboard to see if they cut it. I doubt they do because it's better to just cut the basics and that alone is 50 points minimum
>>548843926
>Renoa
Must have Nia, 3rd character no idea.
No idea about Rin
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>>548843572
That is 12 stacks on an unshackled enemy, or 16 on a shackled one, using the 4-hit Oni Hunt. It's still probably worse than +2 moon hits, but it isn't that bad. Just remove the shitty Inhibit card and rely on copied AP epiphanies like every other high-end deck.
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>>548844045
Rin feels way stronger imo, like playing them together she just always has more multihit and damage
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>>548840737
I will NEVER use a m*le
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>>548844051
lazy devs dont want to personalize the epiphanies you get on cards and make them all worthwhile
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>>548843158
Card Gaaaaames!
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>>548843804
Why does he have two confiscations on mei despite having no forbidden cards? Just to add hits to shoryuken?
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>>548844223
Congrats, you will always be inferior to people using cassius.
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>>548844223
>have to choose between hugo or cassius for top dps build
>luke will eventually be overpowered idk how but you can feel it
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>>548843158
All Stella Sora has going for it is (You) (female)
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>>548844329
Which CZN card is she talking about?
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>>548843978
She's the 5th or 6th best singletarget DPS in the game, which isn't exactly amazing.
She has some interactions that could be very good with future characters, but currently everything she does someone else does better.
She is kinda fun to play.
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>>548844051
cut the trash card bro. its exactly like cutting soveriegnty for meilin. its a fucking brick a -1draw. and useless.

binds only purpose is with a support chizuru with 0 cards
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Who do I use to wheelchair Cassius through chaos? I don't have Khalipe.
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do you guys care about this leaderboard shit? isn't it just whale bait
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>>548844507
>idk how
there's a leaked kit for an order support that mainly revolves around applying a debuff that procs damage every time the enemy is hit, and also has a card that just activates all order cards in your hand
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>>548844595
it's a weird combination of that plus save grind lottery
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>>548840737
Being a veronicalet is worse than being a woman in Korea
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>>548844595
you need 500k for 50 crystals
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>>548844220
rin+chizu and who? rei,orlea, mika?
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>>548844587
i wheel chair everyone with either kayron or renoa. both dont need teammates to function. just eat their cards or dont play their cards
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Oh no I will miss out on 1/3 pull
>>
you guys said 500k points was free...
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>>548844827
But it is...
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>>548844827
is for me. not for thee, not my fault you didnt take the hugo tressa and mei lin veron pill
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>>548844595
>isn't it just whale bait
no it's grindbait

Mei Lin dupes don't really matter
Vero dupes don't matter because you want giant ballista and don't care about targeting
Everyone else is a 4* who works at 1-2 dupes
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>>548844797
>oh no it's just a shitty sticker
>oh no it's just 1/3 pull
you are here
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>>548844718
they don't synergize together, anyways rei because the e6 forces me to use her
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>>548844930
what else is there?
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>>548844542
Forbidden ecstasy
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>>548843547
What did you use your universal dupe for?
My advice get Kayron I use mine on him. That E2 upgrade is fucking KINO
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>>548844542
Source of Water
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>on release
>tressa and mika are op
>khalipe the lioness amazon is op
>now
>tressa and mika are op
>kneel to vero the retarded rat
>khaliwho?
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>>548845257
khali content in 2026 trust
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Is attribute 5 better than atk5?
What if you have the 1k atk requirement like rin or mei?
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>bro just reroll for khalipe she is meta and broken
1daysisters....
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>No doggy
>No cutie
i'm cooked
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>>548845257
khalipe wheelchairs any chaos team which is the content that was discussed at the time
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>>548845257
>Game leaning toward DPS race
>Survivability character fading out
I had seen this before
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Mei Lin nerf when?
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>>548845528
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Is lab 11 free now or what
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>>548845528
This WAS the nerf...
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>>548845590
>>548845590
>>548845590
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>>548845528
Khalipesister...
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Hugofros...
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Can i wheelchair selena thru chaos with kayron?
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>>548843643
Sure man, just post it here.
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>>548818076
WHEN WILL THEY FIX OP REI FFS??
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>>548842309
Mei Lin will struggle with the second half because of the hit limit.
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>>548818076
that singular kayronGOD
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>Devs release way stronger and nonsense characters in each banner

Waaaa powercreeeeeep let me play with normal buillldsss

>Devs release fun characters while being generous so you can clear all content as long as u build correctly

Game is doomed refund and start again.

Fucking retards
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Fuck Haru
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>>548843158
They don't have a Rei



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