[PoE2]>Druids Infohttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>Disciple of Allah Ascendancyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLa90dXVDWE[PoE 1]>Keepers of the Farthttps://www.pathofexile.com/keepers>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7Jprevious waystone: >>550417123
>>550440891What model had a vajania
tubbed
Coping and hoping that development will start to speed up after acts 5/6 are done
This made me smile.
>he is a jingakh
It would be a shame if GGG were exposed for using AI in any wayA terrible shame indeed
>>550441113tubbed, mazed and raped.
>sword slash effectiam so ready for swords i cant wait any longer
2 will never have a skill as fun as Righteous Fire, will it?Why do they hate fun?
>88,000 tubbed retards remain
pooegg2
>>550441315i legit have the same just hit interludes
>>550441267PoE2's RF would require you to get fire infusions to trigger and it would only last 8 seconds or something.
>>550441203TDS tier post
>>550441267>poe2 rf>you build up righteous charges and then spend them to set yourself on fire for 5s
I don't think this league is that bad. I just think it's a melee without a shield problem. Or melee without 30k armor problem.ES sorc last league was comfy
>>550441443>TDSspeak in human language instead of some retard acronyms nobody knows about
Why is it so hard for GGG to make druid fun and good?It is not a rocket science.In D2 it is basically you transforming and fighting, or using summons or using nature magic. Nothing complicated but fun.Same shit with the druids in other ARPGs: GD, D4, LE.I feel like GGG has truly smoothbrains working because their iterations of popular archetypes look like significant downgrades in comparison to those from other games.Totally expect Templar to be an absolute fucking parody on a Paladin class with 5 button combos and charge system to do 1% of boss HP.
Act 1 works because the monsters across the board in POE have a problem of nothing they can do other than attack and sprint, and Act1 enemies are just on average slower due to being zombies etc, yes you get spammed on later on in Act1 but the mob variety is such that it's not awful.By the time you're at the Dreadnought you are in full realisation of what the problem with this game is.The player has a bounding box. Monsters have a bounding box.GGG has programmed the monster bounding box to intersect the player bounding box while doing either 0 sprint or 1 attack. That's it.That's why we have to screen clear. That's why the combos don't work. Enemies have no concept of downtime or uptime, the player does not instigate the combat and smash the enemies who are waiting frozen in fear or apprehensive. No, the enemies across the entire game after the first half of Act 1 all are rabies zombies that no matter what think they all have a chance to kill you (which they do).
jonathan seriously needs to be demoted for thisjonathan seriously needs to be demoted for thisjonathan seriously needs to be demoted for thiswhat the actual fuck is happening, im so fucking angry
Why is every other character a powerful woman who does mengele shit to people and is somewhere between a christmas cake and a milf? Which writer has this fetish? Because it's based.
What went wrong?
>>550441572troonathan derangement syndrome
>>550441696Everyone's at work and church and taking care of their kids300k on Friday night when people get a chance to unwind and continue Act 3
Diablo 4 is going to get a better endgame tree before PoE2 does
>>550441684Act 2's final stretch on the Dreadnought was such horrible dogshit to get through in 0.1 I almost dropped the game. I feel like it was almost on purpose considering how fucking atrocious Act 3 was at the time.
TURN OUT THE BEST DEFENSE IS THE SCREEN AND ALL THE BOSSES BEING PERMANENTLY FROZEN. DONT NEED DEFENSE IF THE CPU CANT PLAY. KEK.
Deshar is the new Act 2 slog
>>550441631I'm wolf shaman ssf with a pretty bad talisman and I'm mostly clearing with lunar assault. It feels fun and I have the damage to progress, I'm just squishy as fuck, and it seems like t14 is the cutoff for greater exalt drops?
>>550441716because making her a young woman would be retarded
I see the poe1bab discord has their newest cope lmao
Roachbros, is it time yet?
>>550441151This too
>>550441726honestly i dont think comparing keepers to other leagues is fair. thanks to async trade you genuinely finish the league faster and go do something else until a new league. im fairly certain that this trend will continue because leagues are just shorter now in trade.
>>550441973The "Poe2 is a dad gamer game"?
Time to discuss why I am not a big fan of this Path of Exile 2 league despite having fun with the Druid, then into a pod with Lexd! Totally not going to tilt anyone, right? RIGHT??!?!??!
>>550441895well they did remove freeze from a lot of bosses and gutted temp chains for a good reason in poe1
>>550442149Wait, is Tri actually disliking the league? I've heard cutedog saying that he hates the game but I just assumed it was ironic
Any stormweaver bros know if the infusion mod is any good? Or should I just take lightning?
>>550441932her?f
>>550442305CuteDog plays it up but he really doesn't enjoy poe2 at all
>>550442393I am aware
>>550442332infusions are shit, that lightning damage roll on the other hand is very nice
game is dying so fast the general is moving like molasses
>>550443024Everyone's in-game, sis
>>550443040yeah except the game they are in is not path of exile 2
>>550443040lmao
>>550443024this is the doomgod general and its only kept afloat by doom posting. much like d4, nobody actually plays poe2 here and most people are already done with keepers.
Do you think Atziri lactates?
>>550441684Act 1 is good because it plays like PoE. Yes, a gimped, slower version of poe 1 act one, bit still an ARPG. Act 2 onward is just Tub of Exile with shit stains all over, including the vision incarnate desert map table.
>"wow what a fun weapon i'll make a werewolf minion build">take the "allows a scepter while shapeshifted" node>everything looks perfect on paper>using any spell force weapon swaps you, making the whole fucking build not function since can't cast anything without despawning your entire armyi'm just going to uninstall this shit ain't it
Why did they make Ultimatum so shit for getting your Ascend points?>Getting 2 Ascend points? 39+, free>Getting 4? FUCKING 60 and requires you to slog through 7 rounds steadily increasing your risk of bricking the run>Getting 6? Haha, MOTHERFUCKING 75+, tier 11 endgame maps to get something that Sekhema gives you pre-maps
>>550443445haha yeah
>>550443024PoE1's decade long toxic positivity is what got us here.
you're patheticyou're a loser
>>550444180Jonathan when he talke to his reflection in the mirror.
DEAD
rings dont have affix tiers ? Just slap regular exalts on them?
how do you get more support gem slots on basic attacks like maul?
>>550444319Jonathan actually surpassed R07 in hackery. What an achievement.
>>550443445sadd
>>550440895MY ARPG IS TOO TERRIBLE FOR YOU TRAVELERYOU SHOULD GO PLAY A BETTER ARPG
When does lvl 5 support gems start to drop? Need them for an alt
>>550445002interlewds, sis
>>550444563Level up. I don't remember the exact levels but that is how.
>>550442332Next time, just check poe.ninja to see what people are using.
Cast on Crit or Cast on Elemental Ailment? My build crits and also relies on Shock+Freeze so it should be able to proc either but they don't seem much different
>>550441631>I feel like GGG has truly smoothbrains working because their iterations of popular archetypes look like significant downgrades in comparison to those from other games.Jonathon is a midwit. If only he were a smoothbrain.
>>550445609Somewhat ridiculous advice in this scenario
>>550441696>the game has a higher playercount when it's free to play>the game has a higher playercount when it's the weekend>the game has a higher playercount during the FREE WEEKEND
How do we fix the toxic infestation of D4 players that are currently shitting up the subreddit, general and forums?
>>550445963nobody bothered with free weekend lil gup
>>550446073Make a better game?
>>550446073>D4 playersI don't know if it's the restrictive instancing, but every time I play d4 it looks less active than I'd imagine
>>550446073take your meds
there are more support gems that work with Drenched than there are ways to inflict it
>>550446157Do you have cross-play off? That'll cull the majority of players.
>>550446295See Witch/Sorc/Huntress/Ranger/Merc, walk up press pic related, Drench debuff is applied. Simple as.
BIGIGSHIT
the director himself coded and designed league mechanic and it's shit ? how did this happen ?
is poe2 vibe coded?
>>550446505wait did he really?
maybe
>>550446295That's the biggest problem I have with the generator/spender shit. There aren't enough generators (or even spenders) per resource type to make it interesting.
Anons you are paying for your carries right? You are giving a tip right?
>GGG won't let me eat my own wolves because................ just becauseThanks, POE2. Lightning Arrow is fine though. Bonus points for>wyvern is broken anyways
>>550446563zaccie admitted to vibe balancing so probably yes
>>550446505jonathan has a very skewed view as to what makes a good mechanic and good gameplayjust look at all the interviews he's in and you will see.
>>550446654If you're buying/selling carries in in-game chat you're gonna have a bad time
>>550446654yea i always pay my voidstone carryer
Will the Atziri boss stay in the game permanently after the league ends?
>>550446654i beginning to feel like the anon that said paying entry fee is status symbol for jeets was right and all the jeet and jeetadjecent scum are playing poe2. landmines werent even that common in poe1 and apparently people scam all the time in poe2 even for the most irrelevant shit.
>>550446815Yes
poo2 is a lost cause it's pretty clearnot even a week until it dies a horrible death.
>>550446846In what way?
>>550446815they should delete it just like they did it with kalandra. this league is an insult to og atziri.
>>550446873>losing over 10% per daygrim
>>550446907In pretty much every way, she's the boss of the mechanic which isn't going anywhere. I actually don't think anything from the mechanic will be removed or nerfed. It's basically already in its post-nerf, implemented-into-core state.
>>550446924kalandra had no boss fight. this version of atziri is the retconned version of atziri and from this point forward she is the canon version.sorry, but nu-ggg can't leave any references to poe1 untouched, they wanna removed that stain from their resumée
>>550447045how was she retconned?
>>550446580Yes, he talked about how nuIncursion is inspired by Loop Hero and it's the most work he's put into designing and coding a league mechanic in years. I want to feel bad for Jonathan, but it's difficult to when he's shit all over PoE just to put this trash "sequel" out.
>>550447007watch them nerf it regardlesspoo2 is about to head down the trail of unnecessary nerfs to bring it back to its ruthless roots>>550447091atziri wasn't exactly a snake in poe1, was she? they kinda missed that fact teehee
Something I wish PoE 2 "stole" from Diablo 4 is having a big open world between the acts. It's nice to actually move between biomes naturally. Kind of like how WoW is still one of the few MMOs that truly has no loading screens in the overworld besides moving to another continent.
>>550443040This except I'm playing CS2 again already.
>can't use sigil of power without giving up pouncenuh uh
>>550443445Talismans can't cast spells so you're automatically casting everything with your secondary weapon. It's stupid but it does help hybrid caster builds. And yes, it does mean that talisman minion builds of any type are exempt from hybrid casting. It is what it is.
i do not understand the design philosophy here1: "we have created a massive non linear passive skill tree with no clear directions or guides and we encourage you to experiment to your hearts content, figure out your own build, and customize your character"2: "it will cost you all of your life savings to adjust half your skill nodes"these two things seem so fucking at odds with each other. its no wonder people feel forced to look up guides when they have to take out a mortgage to tinker with a build
>>550447395do literally one map
Playing shaman how it's supposed to be played and it's pretty gud>Generating rage and glory with Fury of the Mountain, Eternal Rage and Ferocious Roar>Spending it with Furious Slam, Walking Calamity and Apocalypse>Pounce because of course>Skill tree swap to all the spell damage stuff on fire staff and shapeshift stuff on talisman>Volcano for extra DPS on bossesApocalypse and Walking Calamity clear is crazy safe, can just run around bosses.
Any good minion build?
cringe
can I buy one sub for myself and one gifted to get portal?
Is act 5 getting released with .5?
I will forget EVERY FUCKING SEASON that you can only travel to a fresh instance of an act 4 island by ctrl clicking on the physical waypoint after you've already traveled to the island. not the zone transition, not the destination on the map interface...And I will get mad every fucking time because niggers refuse to not join parties and then go off and clear maps solo>just play solo retardno, my adhd won't allow me to not immediately get distracted when playing solo
>>550448041who cares?
apex of sacrifice/alluring abyss was the very first pinnacle content in poe1. and nuatziri is a downgrade from that, literally how?
ngl it's a good thing that all the shitters are being filtered by the campaignmeans the game will have a community of actual competent, intelligent people giving feedback throughout early access
>>550448041lol no
>>550447663Druid shaman for easy extra spirit, Thunderstorm with always shock when drenched support, exposure when shocking support, as many frost mages as you can afford with multi shot and pierce.You just press thunderstorm and everything gets exposure, shock, extra freeze and your minions freeze everything
Here's some feedback for you:Fuck off with your lab shit. Make the game harder if you want, but let us ascend (for FREE)
>>550448478desperation is setting in for hopexissies
It's ridiculous to expect GGG to not take a winter break after how hard they've worked on these two back to back bangers of leagues.
>>550448635May as well pick your ascension at character selection then
I fucking hate crafting in this game. I feel like all I'm doing is just finding a decent piece, slamming some exalts and bricking everything with +7 mana and +115 stun threshold.>broo just use omens and essencesBy the time I can get those things that let me guarantee a decent piece, I won't need the fucking piece anymore.
>>550448635>give me a strong power up for freed4 is that way. fuck off.
>>550448774i wonder if this year jonathan remembers about the mystery box xmas tradition or the tradition is gone with chris
>difficulty +4 empowered bosses have 12 million life and deal 7000 damage per hitso i guess i just turn the atlas points off?
>>550446873we'll see about that
No other game has achieved this before, it's actually incredible... form the get go, the first loading screen is massive, can easily pump some strecthing to warm up, then every visit to town to sell the items, I get to do 15 push-ups and/or j-jacks. Sounds a lot for the first 10 minutes of the game sesh, right? That is the best part, it's like GGG knows i'm already sweaty, so they send in either a disconect or crash to encourage me to a shower and refresh!
>>550449084ALEXANDER SANNIKOV SENDS HIS REGARDS
i'm done, cya in 4 months anons. druid is fun but the league mechanic is dogshit and endgame is the same
>>550449608NO! COME BACK! PATCH IS COMING SOON!
>>550449608Poo1 will have a league way sooner than that.
>>550449695Poe1 is a dead meme
JONATHAN DO SOMETHINGGGGGG
>>550449784Bogfell Infernal Legion with weapon swap.Or most any specter build.
>>550448620Rolling. Thanks, anon.
>>550449995Side effect of trooning out.
>>550448871Free boxes are 100% never coming back
>>550449995why do you have xim added on your steam?
>>550449995I play uma too but you know you're too far gone once you fucking install it on steam instead just your phone
>>550449995Fate of the Vaal league will never recover from that loss. It is actually over.
You guys play games on your phones?I have a pixel 9 and I can't even play emulators on it without it feeling weird
>>550450209this would mean that jonathan is the one that always pushed for more aggressive monetization huh
>>550450431Uma plays itself, so that helps.
>>550450431Foldables are okay for gaming
>>550449995PoExUmamusume would save PoE 2. Travel Wraeclast finding peasant girls, feed them, train them, beat them, then set them to race each other in Sarn. If that isn't a winning league mechanic then there is no appeasing PoE 2 players.
yo anons league is dead so i was thinking about trying something new. i remember that someone shilled aion2 here before and i went to look for its general and its already gone, what happened to that game for it to die so fast lmao
Here's my suggestions>remove delve, bestiary, harbingers, harvest>remove kingsmarch and tree>remove pantheon>remove influences>add foulborn as rare versions of regular unique drops>add more uniques and supports for under developed archetypes (traps, mines, totems and brands)
>>550450735jonathan would be proud
>>550450735>poe1Lmao
It's going to be funny when traps are never added to poe2 because they couldn't figure out a way to enshittify them without looking like complete retards
>>550450907and traps are pretty shit to play even as is. reminder that pohx is a trap player that successfully rebranded to being known for rf despite still playing traps.
>>550450907Trap cluster is already on the tree lil gup
>>550450881PoE2 is going EoS and if it doesn't we'll just PoE1ify it. You cannot stop us, we are too autistic
Out of 25 posts on the front page only 8 aren't complaints, including the stickies
>>550450907you lack imagination>3 seconds cast time>only placeable directly where you're standing, no trap throwing>6 seconds arming time>limit of 1 trap placed at a time
Locked. And. DOWNVOTED.Use the megathread.
>>550451140Cast time? They've already shown that it's going to be a weapon type
>>550451153No negativity in the dojo
>>550451153free game no bit-ACK!
>>550451073the new captcha?
>>550450907Traps have weight and you can only throw them X distance relative to your strength stat. There's a X% increased strength applies to throw distance stat but here's the kicker all the gems are dex
>>550451348Killed by async
>>550451140>we really want to lean in to the fantasy of placing a trap and goading the enemy into it, you will use the new ability "bait" to place a juicy steak on the ground behind the trap (1.5 second cast time, needs endurance charge), this will taunt the closest rare or unique mob to walk towards it
>>550451387I don't get it
>>550451383>str stackers can fling traps an infinite distanceadd a support gem for trap damage to scale based on how far away you are when they detonate and we'll have kino
>>550449995Not even in the depths of corruption did the Vaal crave horse pussy...
>We want to make a campaign that is so good people are going to want to replay it
does Elder Madox still reset after every level up? Asking before I bother with it
To balance bows you should really need to buy arrows that run out. Instead of buffing melee we should just make bows worse
>>550451996Why not both?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTS3FrJUUKEzizaran is not happy
>>550452051...to no one's surprise
>>550451996Actually true, and the arrows take up 2x4 space in the inventory, placing a looting pressure that will equalize to compelling and methodical approaches to mapping
stinky poo two
This seems cool
>>550452297i wonder why there is nothing for monk or mercenary of similar fashion
A spider ascend and each ascend notable lets you equip a new pair of boots
Where the FUCK is shadow???
>>550452051>currently is it definitely one of my least favorite league mechanics that i have ever seenhe fucking hates it lmoa
>>550452051him getting up and walking away after his temple explodes made me laugh for real though.
is ruetoos crossbow build good?
are there any actual dex stackers in poe1 to play? don't really feel like doing int stack for the 500th time for this claw when it's the same ol shit
>>550452491look behind you
>>550452491stop noticing
I'm only in Act 1 but temple is easily one of the best mechanics they've ever done. I just made a SICK weapon for free and I am just fucking BLASTING through areasMaybe you people need to..i don't know, go outside? Do something else in your life than complaining all day. It's not a good look.
>>550452527https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_VZMY6qRg
>HECKING LOVE THE CHUNGUS BOSS FIGHTS IN ACT 1, ESPECIALLY 10 MINUTE GEONOR
>>550452491Johnathan needs to add shadow so NO ONE can play assassin
>>550452709>poe slave goy's strongest counter argument to campaign slog is to RMT a Chinese man to pilot your account
hellowhats the s+++ shitter tier starter?fubguns pf seems not only overpriced but it also needs la?wyvern seems cool but slow, dull and probably repetitive
>>550452819Everyone is playing grenades dummy, it's ez mode
>>550452709>diablo 4 is fun for 3 daysabout those retention charts...
>>550452819Vaal Arc and you use Vaal Caress to level
Essence or Wisps?
>>550452937i dislike grenade delayed playstyle though
>>550452978are steadier than PoE 2?
so wait, shade walker still disables regen? this shit makes zero sense as a rare mod. degens that disable regen make sense on a major boss attack like on sirus, because avoiding the puddles is a part of the boss fight. having degens that disable regen as a rare mod is completely fucking retarded because you'll fight 6 of these niggers at the same time and you'll have no reasonable way to tell what the fuck is killing you. i'm convinced these fags at GGG have never tried playing their game.
>>550453058>actual numbers cropped outlol
>>550452709Based problem solver
>>550453081retention is percentage, this is not a gotcha.
>>550453081You can literally see them on the graph retard, still a better retention metric.
>>550453078Mark played the game for one league and we got automated trading and a bunch of other qol out of it
It is funny that till settlers every poe league increased its base, then there was a year+ of nothing while poe2 has essentially negative growth. It must make GGG anxious
>>550453174it might be the abandonment of their first game they have shown to the playerbase, but one can only guess
>>550452051Theres no rewards and because builds are so busted everyone kills Atziri so fast nobody gets to see her actual abilities.
>>550453219Jeez it's almost like that's how sequels work and poe1faggots should get the fuck over it Maybe they're not used to getting sequels in their third world shitholes kek
who designed this bloody bhenchod of a first act boss
>>550453305Geonor is really easy?
So uh endgame is literally the same why
>>550453285does this look like a working sequel to you?
>>550453375Too busy filling the tub to work on the game.
>>550453418I see a filtration system working exactly as it should :)Sorry it was too hard/high tech for you to run, Ranjesh
>>550453353what is sad is that it turned real easy the moment i switched from a 2 supported skill to basic attack (because it deals 30% more damage)
>>550453418>1 year later>still butthurthehehe
>>550453459>i-its better that less people play it, ranjeetlol okay NIGGER
>>550453459So let me get this straight>game 1 grows until game 2 shits the bed>it's a good thing game 2 is losing players league over league?what's the end goal here
can anyone explain basic attack being better than high velocity to me? i don't understand this, i thought they changed that?
>going smith of katava bear>I'll try out this oil barrage skill>I'm completely invested into melee>level 11 Oil barrage deletes Viper with no support gemsWtf is this shit
>>550448821getting strong power is already freewhat anon meant is>stop wasting people's time with some mundane shitty designed crap, which Trials ARE
>>550453459>a 71.6% loss of players is a good filtration system
>>550453418predictable as fuck. people came for the 3 acts, and they came again for act 4. they'll come for 1.0 as it's the official release with f2p and at least act 6.
>>550453745it's a pretty straight downward line, with only 1 out of 4 patches being outside that trend line (downwards, not upwards)>this is a good thing
Has a 1.0 release of an early access game ever had a player recovery to the original launch numbers?
>>550453682its OPits get eve nmore OPjust with wyvern was a bit faster to move around
>>550453786it's their cope, let them cope
>>550453786yes
>>550453676LOLLMAO EVEN
>>550453884Well?
>>550454035poe2 in three years
>>550454110
>>550454110>three
Xbow bros how are we doing? Nobody is playing our build so stuff SHOULD be relatively cheap right
>>550454035satisfactoryhades 1, 2dead cellsthe long darkPUBGetc
Tell me what I should play this league
>>550454276the UN IN STALLER LMAOOOOOgo pf bow
when are they fixing the load times so I can actually play the new update
>>550454035last epoch
>>550453785it's a paid beta, of course 0.1 being by far the largest release drew the most attention.1.0 will probably beat 0.1 numbers just because it'll be f2p though, and they're likely to do a lot more marketing for it.i wonder when they'll pull the trigger on 1.0, i think it'll be act 5 in april, they might do both acts at once and go for a splashy 1.0 though or push it back to december.
1.0 will still be ultra hyped and bring everyone back and then some.
poe2 1.0 is going to dominate gaming press for MONTHSgoty accolades, awards, top ten of the DECADEyou people have no idea what's coming
>>550454606lmao1.0 will be a buggy messwith too many currency items, zero descriptions, 80% of league mechanics dead
well /poeg/, is she right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8xYse-1BI
>say sorc spells suck ass and do no damage>everyone just tells me I don't know how to play>alright let's look up some sorc spell builds>12 step skill rotation to do half the damage one wyvern breath does
>melty because no more poo1 december leagueskek
poopy two 1.0 will be flushed
>>550454661>gotyawards are useless, these hacks named fucking expedition 33 this year.
>>550454704Kronii is my wife and she hated Diablo 4
>>550454718spark was so good in 0.1 they will never allow sorc to be good ever again.
>struggle with geonor>switch to default attack>he easy nowhmm, so using skills is just bait in this game?
>>550454718>skill issuemy comet infernalist is one shotting bosses.
>>550453229its so funny how uber atziri was unclearable for majority of players for years and then there is this wet fart in poe2
>>550454820ENKIS ARC WITCH
>>550454768Your lying wife Kronii told my wife Kiara she'd play Diablo with her again and then went to ducking her for YEARS
>>550454768she never said that, fake news
all they have to do is to cook actually engaging league mechanic AND challenges for people to stay for a month, possible, but unlikely
tfw atziri will never sit on my face
i have a feeling they're going to mid-league nerf lunar blessing and make werewolf unplayable dogshit.
>>550454878dramaaaaa
any chase uniques?
>>550454891see >>550454878She abandon the stream series and never finished the gameSHE HATES IT
>>550454829Only for melee
Who is the top contender for KWABOTY award by /poeg/?Jonathan,Bald Fucking Retard or other poe personality?
>>550454909They would be ripped apart if they did challenges while it was still pay 2 play
poo2... bad.
>>550455052Funny how baldo was just a leech and it took Jon almost 20 years to figure out
>>550455052poe1 players
>>550454524>and they're likely to do a lot more marketing for it.I don't know how much they spent on .1 marketing but I would be surprised if they could afford to do more marketing. I was hyped for it but it was shilled to no end.
Any good non-infusionshit/plantshit caster builds?I dont mind pressing 5 buttons
>>550455153i don't think they spent much if anything at all on 0.1it was really meant for poe1 players to beta test, by their own words they didn't expect that many people to buy-in.
how does project d2 verify cd keys? can they steal it?
>>550455203>I dont mind pressing 5 buttonsjesus
>>550455203You are scaring poe 1 players.
>>550455203New Sorc ascendancy is basically that. It might scale with minions, but you're essentially using spells.
>>550454718That's the vision though?
Stop making fun of the battered poe1 playersThey need love and understanding in this transitionary period
>>550455248lmao you must be joking
reminder that WE the buyers and players are the beta testers
>>550455592Anon they even paid the neighbourhood cat to call it the greatest game of all time
>>550441151But Balbala said I am no longer a jingakh
>>550455250why would they verify cd keys? and yes when you install software on your pc you're basically giving them the keys to everything on your pc, they can do much worse than steal your cd key.>>5504555920.1 was the result of 6 years of hype. i'm sure there was some marketing involved but it was mostly word of mouth, anger at blizzard and diablo 4, and years of hype culminating.
>>550448816>By the time I can get those things that let me guarantee a decent piece, I won't need the fucking piece anymore.I second this. In ssf it's terrible. I dropped many exceptional pieces last league but 0 for my build. All my currency just rotting in my permanent stash
Haha hey you PoE 1 guys know we're just busting your balls right?
>>550455646>reminder that WE the buyers and players are the beta testersPoE open beta had a lot of dev feedback and interaction. It was reasonably common to have GGG employees in chat interacting. I know they are a much bigger company now but it is rare for them to get involved all that much even on forums. I think I've seen Mark engage with a few mechanic inquiries off hand.
>>550455678>why would they verify cd keys? and yes when you install software on your pc you're basically giving them the keys to everything on your pc, they can do much worse than steal your cd key.>You must own legitimate copies of Diablo II and Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, purchased from Blizzard, in order to play Project Diablo II. Using cracked CD-Keys will result in a permanent ban. so they verify them somehow
Doesn't PD2 and nuMXL just md5 check the exact newest update files that you can only get from owning it legit
>>550455714nobody takes it serious ramesh we all know that during prime na hours its poe 2 sucks thread and when americans go to bed it becomes prime poe 1 eos hours.
>>550455678>i'm sure there was some marketing involvedit was at least close to an 8 figure sum
Incursion can be saved as a mechanic if the devs want
>>550455842verifying the cd key is trivial, but it's certainly unusual for community projects to ban piracy. there's a cdkey generator that you can use. they have absolutely no way to tell whether your key is legit or not.
>>550455250they don't you can play just fine on a pirated copy
>>550456164Both the biggest d2 mods are extremely autistic about only legit copies being able to play them95% of that is ensuring full compatibility and very little bugs though
>>550456164i have a legit copy, it just seemed strange to me so i wanted to ask if they can actually steal and do something with my keys. or are they safe regardless if they are registered on a bnet account?
>>550456271the main reason why you can easilly crack cd keys for diablo 2 is because the setup verifies the keys. the moment you expose the verification to the user, you allow people to crack it. these days the cdkey verification happens directly on the server to avoid this.
>>550456391do you trust the project or not? it's really that simple. because if you install their software, they can do whatever they want on your pc.
>>550456459dont be a fag and buy a game
>>550456590probably? all the poe streamers play pd2 so they are not malicious maybe. still it doesnt hurt to ask
>>550443024>>550443148I dont feel like contributing 200 posts a thread anymore. Both games are getting worse.
you know that shit is genuinely fucked if even redditors begin graphposting only a few days into the league
>>550456706there's two ways that you can ensure trust, the first is that there's a monetary incentive, is the project well financed ? the second is liability, let's take turtle wow, if tomorrow the creator (russian) pushes a malware update, there's nothing you can do about it.
>>550456925It's funny to watch the mods break down in real time as they can't contain the doomposting fast enough and just give up.
>>550456925>Jeets have melties on Reddit [lmfao]>GAME IS DOOMED OMG !!!!!11kek you faggots are cooked
I would never RMT for divines since that takes the fun out of chasing upgrades and mapping harder juiced content, but if I could pay a shady chinaman twenty bucks to have 10,000,000 gold I'd probably do it in a heartbeat, holy fuck the gold costs for respec and the increased price of asynch trade are fucking PURE ASS to play with.Is Jonathan's Vision (TM) literally me running around picking up dogshit untiered rares so I can hand them to doryani for identification before immediately selling them to him? Regals are worthless, even if you were going to use a regal on something to craft they added tiered currency and you'd never use a regular regal on a good base, so disenchanting them for regal shards is even more pointless.....but I never feel like I have enough gold and 50k to change an ascendancy node is retarded, I'm just going to keep Witchbane and No Mercy 24/7 since the idea of swapping between Zealous Inquisition and back to boss makes me have an aneurysm just thinking about the 300k gold it would cost every time I wanted to kill arbiter
bros...they are going to ruin traps too right
>bear's been alright but clunky so I felt like rerolling>halfway through act 2 and I already don't want to play anymoreRemember when they said that if people don't want to play through the campaign again it means they've failed?
>>550457147>Is Jonathan's Vision (TM) literally me running around picking up dogshit untiered rares so I can hand them to doryani for identification before immediately selling them to him?Well yes but also no. There are a lot of things that are worthwhile just by existing, you just need to learn how to identify them and filter the rest out. Takes experience and time and gained knowledge.Play more builds and you'll have a greater breadth of understanding what people are always going to be looking for.
>>550457195Yes, don't worry. They will be on cooldown and they'll be dropped at the player's feet so mobs will have to actively walk on them.
>>550457239Playing since 2013 and I have never been able to do the campaign more than once per league
Im having fun with grenade titan :)
>>550457195Bear Trap + Claymore aiming. Maybe nets with PoE 2 Bestiary.
>>550457195Jonatroon will ruin everything. EVERYTHING.
reddit is dooming hard i wonder if they will say something today
aste has been cooking againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYpiav3YJk
Wait, sorry. I was too quick to answer and my answer was too optimistic. Traps of course won't be dropped. There'll be a bespoke unscalable animation of you carefully placing the trap.
>>550457195>bros...they are going to ruin traps too rightthey are almost assuredly going to be tagged as Hazards and result in pure unfiltered garbage gameplay the same way caltrops and spearfield are.oh and enjoy every single trap having EIGHTY PERCENT LESS DAMAGE like Spearfield does if it's triggered too soon after being deployed since otherwise it might compromise the Vision(TM) of meaningful combat if you didn't spend several seconds doing setup for every white mob pack
>>550457239I foresee this being the next big thing they capitulate on. It was tedious, but tolerable in 1, but 2 is just such an obese cunt of an experience and it's not even done yet. There's gonna be even more of this tedious shit.
>>550457617You will spend 15 seconds of animation digging a punji. You will lure Silverfist into it. You will come here and type kino. You will later come here and write this is bullshit because you're tired of having 15 second light stunnable animations that make temper weapon look like an insta cast.
I generate rage and then.......I DON'T SPEND IT hahahah fuck you johntubful
>>550457195And mines
Disagree. I'm 33, married, work full-time and still get around 5 hours/day. Much more on weekends. Love the direction they're taking this game and hoping they won't cave for the tiny Poe1 crying fanbase. They can play Poe1
>>550455049same for crossbows
what does your steam replay look like
>>5504577522 has literally no content outside the campaign, they CAN'T back down on this because the campaign is the game
>>550457996based dad gamer. who looks after your wifes kids while you're locked in?
>>550452709>the campaign is so bad that casuals rmt for campaign carriesi really wish jonathan could see this screenshot
>>550458123Poo2 didn't even make it onto it.
>>550457856>15 second light stunnable animations that make temper weapon look like an insta cast.I'd just like to remind everyone that GGG literally pushed that shit to live servers without a single person at any point of the production pipeline stopping to say "Hey guys, come on, this is clearly a joke right?"The temple being such a dogshit state makes a lot more sense when you remember this is the studio that shipped temper weapon in its original state
>>550458330Jon talking about how he made the temple and it being the most dogshit mechanic they've put out in a long time is so fucking funny. The guy is a walking comedy act.
>>550450907>You need two power charges to throw and arm them
>>550458123Even here big shit 2 had a massive drop off
>>550458123
>>550458401The temple being great in act 1 where it's an early 3-link and a single (1) free exalt making you feel worth it but being dogshit in endgame where the rewards don't scale at all because jonathan admits he only plays the campaign and just restarts a new character when he gets to maps is straight up something out of a parody. I can't believe campaign man actually made an entire league mechanic that only rewards you during campaign
>>550457996>>550458165Friendly reminder PoE 2 dads leave the house to play the game.
>>550458567lmao
>>550458535It really boggles the mind. Does he expect people to play the campaign over and ever, multiple times per league, 3 times a year? Nobody plays 3 full runs of Skyrim in a year, not dark souls, not the Witcher, not whatever other "replayable" RPGs everyone knows and loves. Why does he think his game is different?
are they ever going to remove checkpoint teleporting? this shit being in the game is a disgrace. its a clumsy bandaid fix for bad zone design and unenjoyable movement.
>>550458567if this isnt some kind of ntr script then i dont know what is
>>550458670jonathan hears you, and he'll be adding more checkpoints next patch.
>>550458657I think it might actually be an autistic thing. jon seems like an absolute sperg and I've seen guys like that do shit like replay the same game non-stop i.e speed running, etc..
dousing charms sell for 5ex minimum lol, GGG completely fucked up ignite scaling and made all the player buffs apply to enemies so now it hits 10x harder than bleed and poison do
>>550458123Hah, looks like it doesn't count hidden games
>>550458480what does that july bar mean?
>>550458670shrinking zones sounds like a very trivial thing to do so if they didnt do it until now then they wont do it ever
>>550458813>it doesn't count hidden gamesdamn i really wanted to know how much time i played badik.
>>550452752fuck that looks fun but I've never even seen the currency that corrupts grafts this league in ssf kek
>>550458714Nah, woman is just so ashamed of her gaming addicted husband that she wants to be alone and cry at her self inflicted misery, i've been around women, they do this a lot to themselves
>>550458742You laugh but from the forums Jonathan is already on it.
>>550458827it's the cursor highlight, the screenshot didn't capture the cursor but the highlight is still there
>>550458754Makes sense why ignite felt like it was fucking hurting a lot more
The doom in the steamchart thread is fucking delicious
>>550458950Oh my god that's horrifying, what if there was a juiced rare right where you were standing and it one shot you, sending you all the way back to that northern checkpoint. He better put down a third one just in case something like that happened.
Out of all the weapons they could possibly add I would be most excited about axes desu, because I want to play warrior and maces are boring as shit.Given their release schedule it would need to come with marauder though and since that's the least exciting for trailers it'll probably come at 0.9 in 3 years.I'd be ok with shadow and traps.
>>550459212>muy steam chartbrother i've been playing poe back when it wouldn't even hit 5k players, i'll be fine.
>>550457560holy shit /poeg/ doomers are getting mogged. the graph post got +200 posts since i first mentioned it. i didnt actually think that the league was that irredemably bad
>>550459212is this a new record in earliness for people posting the retention chart
>>550441726>What went wrong?D4 released a new class and normies play that shit.
>>550452297It's not just "cool", it's one of the strongest single passive nodes in the entire game.Bonuses from the socketables in the equipped focus don't get halved btw.
>>550459212>Players coming off of keepers are going to especially feel it >Yep, having being spoiled by the tree (I got a stack of 20c, a 2div foulborn unique and a 6 link during campaign) compared to tiresome and unrewardting mechanic of Vaal is like dropped from heaven down to earth.>haha should we start a support group for people like us dealing with tree addiction?Sometimes I forget just how different Reddit is from this place.
>>550459328turns out playing a league every 2 months kills retention, who woulda thought.
Reminder the last time there was this much doom>The entire community team publicly quit and gave up>GGG lied about getting death threats>Chris found a random artist in the studio, told the community all the negativity was making her sad, and got her to do an AMA
>>550459383>Bonuses from the socketables in the equipped focus don't get halved btw.This doesn't sound reasonable
Why is it that no matter how hard they try PoE's visual style just looks like a bad ripoff of Diablo?
>>550459406what are you talking aboutthats a pretty common experience with keepers compared to poe2wheres the difference
THIS IS NOT A DRILLFATE OF THE VAAL HAS OFFICIALLY DIPPED BELOW DAWN OF THE HUNT PLAYER NUMBERSJONATHAN FUCKING DO SOMETHING!!!
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>550459502By day 3 or 4 this place was endlessly shitting on the tree, not singing its praises.
>>550459528yea it's trash bro, we know
>>550459490poe1 visual style is(was?) good, the issue is with poe2 and its painfully obvious when things get made by poe2 artist even in poe1 like the foulborn currencies. i wonder if whoever worked on poe1 assets is even with ggg still, probably not because they reused old assets for high level bases?
steamchart posting has got to be the lowest form of posting
>>550459560bro you got tricked by indian shitposters...
>I personally killed Path of Exile and bankrupted GGGBased
People are still buying my stuff in Keepers hell yeah
Holy shit season 4 has a fucking steep drop off in players compared to the previous 3 seasons. Absolute flop
>>550459528These charts are lethal. When they were posted around when 3.27 was teetering close to lows, the next week the league crashed to the bottom (with no survivors).
>>550459654shitty league mechanicno new contentstill terrible endgamei'd say i'm surprised, but i'm not.
>>550459573but we should all be reminded that it is
>>550459642no kidding, i wanted to give my buddy some shit and can you imagine my surprise that said shit actually sold instead. i was convinced that nobody will buy it because it was rather overpriced and pretty meh cws shield.
>>550459560its very strong in early progression. im not sure thats a good thing because its so strong that you just skip that part of the game. but obviously the average casual will love getting free TRI RES BOOTS so he can finally do his voidstones instead of quitting at yellow maps. that person also doesnt care about the tree being mediocre later on and he doesnt play enough to get breach wall fatigue and breach defense fatigue.
I recountedOut of 25 posts on the front page only 7 are positive, including the two stickies
>>550459613>poe1 visual style is(was?) goodI am willing to accept it is nostalgia but I still like how PoE 1 looks. All the "my graphic update" cheering for PoE 2 didn't hold water for me personally.
>>550459613new breach rings look weird as fuck
>>550459809there's not that much to be positive about. league mechanic is trash and we didn't get an endgame rework that was promised. druid is alright, that's about it.
The ARPG genre name is deceptive and indescriptive. Hell, even RPG as a genre name is misleading in a lot of cases, or at least used inflationary.I went through this with @nagisanzeninzz before and he received a ton of ridicule from others for the "PoE2 = Dark Souls" assertion. Let's end this debate once and for all because it's getting annoying:Soulslike games have high difficulty and punishing deaths. You are not able to overcome enemies and bosses unless you use clear knowledge of their movesets and abilities. Until you master these encounters, death is frequent and setbacks happen until you learn from your mistakes.Combat is slow and methodical, and always stamina-based. Other resources like health or mana / energy are limited and only reset upon reaching a checkpoint, or naturally through further progression (see Elden Ring and the way how flasks recharge through defeating an entire group of enemies in the overworld).That means resource-management is mandatory and just mashing buttons leads to defeat.Soulslikes also put heavy emphasis on exploration and world design, with many secrets and pathways being hidden away. You find none of these elements in PoE.Even if you only focus on the combat aspects of Dark Souls and other games from the Soulslike genre, the only overlap you can find and point to is the dodge roll, and that one wasn't even invented by Dark Souls. It's a ridiculous statement that can only be made if you make the shallowest of observations while ignoring all the other elements of the game.
>>550446843jeets don't have pcs that can run poe2
I mapped on multiple characters in 0.1I finished the campaign and immediately quit in 0.2I quit mid-act 2 in 0.3I quit after 15 minutes of playing 0.4I don't think I'll be logging in next patch. Unless the mechanic is Blight.
>>550457195Did people forget when they talked about how you had to manually place mines/traps on the ground, like there was a 5sec+ animation of you crouching down, fiddling with the mine/trap on the ground and standing back up.They were redesigned to be something you setup before a boss and lure them into, not something you can spam like in PoE 1.
>>550460000>I quit after 15 minutes of playing 0.4that says more about you than poe2.
>>550460000They know what's up
>>550459383I'm having a hard time building around it, the raw ES from Discipline and the mana/int is nice but the downside means I'm stuck with only one non-minion aura (eg the cost of eternal rage becomes too oppressive ). any tips?
>>550460097fuck I thought it was the talisman/scepter notableanyway, question stands
>>550460097You're thinking of a completely different thing
I swear people said that 0.4 was supposed to focus on endgame, but there's nothing other than this new temple mechanic.Did I just imagine that?
>>5504600000.3 was literally the best league until they massively nerfed juicing and drops mid league
>>550459406The only real issue with the tree is it's a bit too in your face with pulling a slot machine lever
>>550460170>0.4 was supposed to focus on endgamethey said during the reveal stream they delayed the endgame rework to 0.5.
>>550460170GGG said this, they lied and delayed it.
So instead of rebuilding a whole temple imagine if there was a big circular area in the middle. Maybe like a big courtyard. When you got rooms you added them to the outside of the courtyard. The bigger the room, the more monster quantity. The more rooms you put that buffed said monsters on their garrison rooms, the more quality/rarity. Rooms could be added to the garrison rooms to add specific buff/challenges, and you could even have a room overlooking the courtyard that had a boss who jumped in at some point. So instead of running through a near empty temple we instead stood in a circle and had monsters run at us. I know this is reinventing the wheel but I think it would've worked.
theyre actually going to add a campaign skip, arent they?the complaints keep getting louder and louderthe player numbers keep getting smaller and smalleradding a campaign skip would be the ultimate admission that jonathan losted and poe2 failedits only vision pillar shatteredjonathan should just retire at that point, it would be too fucking embarassign
>>550460193my only problem about abyss was the dogshit performance0.4 really hit the park with their optimizations, i got like +30% fps.
>>550458813>>550460215I was curious about the time bar chart dumazzes
>>550460293>>550460296>delayedWhat a shame. Guess I'm done this league.
>>550459969Any poorfag can get geforce now and play anything they want
hopebros can we blame asynch for this one?
>>550460406You only get 100 hours a month, really not worth it for the poe time commitmentI think the others like Boosteroid have unlimited though
Can crossbow skills be used to detonate spear skills?
>>550459817>nostalgiai disagree. poe1 style was/is very distinct and it was more stylized. poe2 style is trying to be way more realistic and this in turn makes things look very boring and samey.its kind of like d2 and d3 but in the opposite direction. d2 was stylized but still "dark" looking much like poe1 and then d3 went all in on cartoonish stylized aesthetics. i think that both poe1 and d2 hit that sweet spot in large part probably because of graphics limitations and new guys are either unwilling and cant really replicate it.
>>550460320there would be the issue of getting swarmed by monsters like in simulacrum which filters most builds, i dont think the enemies coming to you works gameplay wise and its weird thematicallythe idea of rooms merging is good gameplay wise, like you only run through a few rooms that have a ton of enemies in them, but again its weird thematically, at least with the way tiles are designed currentlyjonathan tubbed himself into a corner
>>550460484Always
I still can't over Jonathan hyping this mechanic up like it was his magnum opus just for it to the worst thing ever. I enjoyed LoK more than this.
campaign skip makes no sense and never hashow would it work, you start doing maps at lvl1? all game to lvl90+? infinitely more boring than any campaignor what, create a new char and you get lvl65 instantly with all the campaign bonuses unlocked? and gear for free? fucking bullshit, never gonna happen
>>550460215>almost 2026>warframeHas even more of an identity crisis and development hell than POE2
Everyone is just stacking ES again as their defensive layer for Druid arent they
2 is something special, but people glaze it too much. Honestly, 1.0 needs a lot of work on the campaign. They need to smooth that out and highlight the story some more otherwise they’re going to lose players.
>>550460598Holy shit, I butchered this post. I'm ashamed and going to bed.
>>550460642Warframe survives primarily on Rebecca whoring herself out nonstop
>>550460320The dad gamers that they are destroying the game for can't handle monster quantity. Even 5 running at them is too much
>>550460373here you go
Post your PoB (PoE1, the real game).
i upvote all doomer threads
>>550460812nt, stalker schizo
>>550460636you dont get gear and xp, you just skip the story stuff. no talking to npcs, no walking around, no picking up skill points and stat boosts. either actual maps or some kind of free roam where you go through campaign zones with increased density and kill the monsters in them with no strings attached. honestly sounds a lot better than the poe2 campaign
Bring Chris Wilson Back!No other reason then, I miss him. He was a good director. (Nothing wrong with the one we have now, although looks like he always has makeup on.) I just want Chris back. He talked and interacted with the player base. Responded to peoples emails, everything.
>>550460652ES for everyone, got 2 frens playing sorc and witch, both at 15k+ in SSF already, shits so busted and never nerfed
remember pre-release when the shills were saying that no-swords was a lie and the game was definitely going to have swords?and now like 1.5 years later and still no swords....
This patch was sabotaged by poo1 leagues.
>>550460516Yes
>>550460950Keepers of The Flop > Fate of The Flop.
>>550461069well the vaal civilization was destined to flop
>make armor actually strong against hits, especially small hits>no degen protection so armor characters still die instantly when they step on an abyss degen which also disabled your recovery for some fucking reason (you know, the thing that life characters have and es characters dont have in combat)impressively retarded
>>550460652barkskin is the worst piece of shit in the game. they could buff the numbers by 3x and it would still be a piece of shit. i don't believe the numbers on it were designed by a human with any understanding of the game.
>>550460685it's ok anon we know what you wanted to say
>>550460694>checks /wfg/>there's a webm of rebecca showing her tits on the very first repliesYou weren't kidding lmao
>>550460812https://pobb.in/y3ALrBrK_yzmSure. I'm about to get to level 98, but I really have no idea if I'm strong enough to do anything past t17s, nor do i want to spend the kind of currency it takes to even try the uber bosses at risk of dying and wasting the money.Was sorta glancing over Ignite as a possible change, but builds I saw seemed to do entirely different things to get it going.
How can they fix the league mechanic?
>>550460598beyond + rampage in kalandra was awesomehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWs1krykQ8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWs1krykQ8
>>550461260they unironically cant do that without a major redesign. if somebody like ziz starts raging and walks away from his pc in rage then you know that shit is beyond fucked for most people.
>>550460501>100 hours a monthI doubt they gonna spend all of it on poe 2
>>550461260make rewards more copious, have every room drop small amounts of league currency that can buy new stuff from a shop, add super apex tier loot that works like hinekora's for some of the specific new orbs.
>>550461321God I wish they hadn't gutted rampage items. It's such a fun mechanic, especially if your build's scaling works on the rampage procs
>>550461260Why cant they just put stash inside the instance, like jesus. Whats the point of this huge ass thing if you cant store it anywhere. If you exist the instance now it immediately ends the run GG
>>550460636Copy Bloodborne. No one knows about it, but Bloodborne has a mapping system you can access from start of the game and start running your own randomised content, but it is depth gated in difficulty where depth 2 and onwards are like NG++++ etcThey are 'Chalice Dungeons' that require special materials to open your first one, which are unlocked during the campaign. Once you have made a dungeon type, you can join other dungeons and make more infinitely.Souls players shat on it at the time because the idea of doing 'maze content' was abhorrent to that playerbase but It if copied properly would be PERFECT for PoE2. Basically give people access to maps straight away but you need to kill Devourer to get some ingredient to open your first one etc. You also can only see maps that are Act1 tilesets so you're not spoiling.Then basically, in maps you have a mechanic where if you can play well you can fight Geonor in the maps section and effectively end Act 1.This however means all those 'optional bosses' that have the clearly non optional resistance/stat upgrades etc need to be changed so those don't exist and instead those bosses drop uniques or something similar to an endgame boss loot pool.The fact that GGG included all these so called 'side content' that aren't side content and you have to play each time is retarded. The Ice Witch bitch in the start of Act 1 is a great example. She should just have a unique pool with some ice dagger and some ice staff or something and if you don't want that shit, you can skip. EZ act speedup.
https://pobb.in/4KrZZ6_xB4bcComplete poverty mode, but it lets me farm juiced t15s.
>>550461625so much loot you cant take it back in one invnetory? ok we will reduce drops within the temple
>>550461227>https://pobb.in/y3ALrBrK_yzm>Grey Wind Divine Smite>afraid of uber bossesyou have almost 6m EHP you should be more than fine.
>>550461406its not rocket scienceif the mechanic takes you out of the map, it needs to drop at least as much loot as a good mapshoving a ton of rares into it and making them drop items would be a good start. you wouldnt even mind aimlessly wandering the temple or needing to complete some rooms because it would be worth it to just kill monsters in the temple. make roads more generous (always connect on all sides)add a tooltip that shows which rooms a room interacts withchange room completion to killing ~70% of the rares in the room and make sure they dont get stuck in the cornerwa la
>>550461784temple design itself is unfun, not just drops.
>>550461639>The fact that GGG included all these so called 'side content' that aren't side content and you have to play each time is retardedjonathan had this vision that players would casually stumble across these things and end up finding something new on every campaign playthrough. it was part of his plan to make the campaign engaging on repeat playthroughs.yeah. hes retarded. nothing else to say
>>550461648>eHP: 17,002this game is not fair that's way more than I got on my titan
>>550461965>playing woodful's classYou did this to yourself
Is it 405% per bolt?
>>550461742block isnt that useful against bosses, especially glad lucky block thats only strong after already blocking a hit. its not bad but its not 6 million health
Is anyone else getting giga-lag when hitting enemies? Not sure if only with plant skills or anything at all. Frame rate drops by like 60% and the sound gets all fucked up.
poo2 legit feels worse to play every patch
>>550462063then gladiator would be unusable at uber-tier.
>>550461260Add Vaal Currency Drops every time you run the map with each room having their own unique currency drop, alongside a loot drop per room be like 2-5 items each room yes just buff the fuck out of the rooms its literally the same as running a map its that longbe able to replace rooms with other rooms you shouldnt be stuck with a regal fucking room by maps im in campaign and even i know thats retardedall rooms with tier upgrades should upgrade the tier of currency of the room aka tier 3 exalted room should should drop greater exalted 1 at most something like thathave a note next to rooms before placed as to what they buff and where it is best to place them to buff other roomsallow a clear path to the archetect cba to spell it ask if you want your rooms deleted like that ziz clip dont just do it allow a way to spam archetect for the special rooms and allow them to stay if you want to fight atziri in some way without it being exploited thats my take and im in the fucking interludes for the fucking campaign how the fuck does GGG not know any of this???>>550460923>>550461176i was going to go leech with wolf druid but i think whats the fucking points its shit compared to ES stacking as well
>>5504621100.3.0 was the peak for me.
calling it nowscreenshot this etcthe endgame rework will be delayed AGAIN because poe2 players are crying about the campaign being too long0.5 will be the campaign rework patchalso 3.28 delayed until june
Until game is out of EA they should abandon the concept of leagues and just do expansions instead.Focus on standard and have leagues for the freaks.Focus on campaign acts and pass endgame content as expansions. That way casuals (the majority of poe2 playerbase) can just log in and experience the new content.
rip lil gup
>>550462073if you dont kill enemies in one hit then you better play a giga tank that doesnt mind low fps
>>550462120its not unusable but its far from ultra retard mode just hold down right click tier like an int stack trickster that also has suppression and overleech, both of which are extremely good for ubers
tfw singular reddit doom thread is faster than /poeg/
i enjoyed the breakfast burritos i just ate more than i ever enjoyed playing poe2
>>550462332where clip
>>550462442I'm not 100% on how exactly the front page of reddit works but surely at least a few of them since launch must have slipped onto there
>>550462585not even close lol
>nameless turd giving me essentia sanguis in SSFso what's the best use of this? werewolf amazon seems like a a decent option
>>550462343I'm playing a plant Disciple of Varashta so I kill enemies almost immediately but in 1000 small hits.Also this lag wasn't there yesterday
>>550462468They'll resemble PoE2 a lot more once the come out the other end
>>550462643>>nameless turd giving me essentia sanguis in SSF>so what's the best use of this? werewolf amazon seems like a a decent option
>>550462748i knew the reply faggot was going to give me a (You). just a hunch i had
>>550462290yeah they should've been focused on patching in the missing content before messing around with fomo league shitbut ggg don't listen to common sense. they'll keep doing the league shit and pretending POE2 is a complete game like POE1 so they just waste time adding gimmicks instead of laying foundation.
>>550462509>>550462332just timestamp no cliphttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2645985835?t=05h23m10s
>>550462879if there was no league i wouldn't be playing. solidifying the foundations isn't what brings players back.
>>550462332you'd have to be a legit retard to play poe2 in HC
>>550462930Brain on autopilot always gets you in the end
>>550462819farmed that freak
important BEAR DRUID updatei have acquired headhunter and defiance of destiny and 800 dps +5 skill weaponthe game is my bitch except for desecrated ground (Shade Walker mod on abyss mobs)all of my niggas hate shade walker. fuck shade walker. that shit is gay as fuck. literally 1 tick and niggas dead even if they ran out of it and spammed they heal potion. jawn better fix it on god.failed the new captcha 7 times despite my doctorate degree. its just not intuitive. much like POE2.
first of all they should have fucking used proper wording, OPEN FUCKING BETA. not this dogshit early access meme where idiots are expecting a full game but earlier than other people.
>>550462994I would come back for new acts. It's what I have been doing in fact. I haven't logged in for 0.4. Why should I, so I can play the same game again but with one more gimmick?Also doing it for TQ2 and I am enjoying that game as well
>>550461742Decided since I had 98 I'd give it a try. I bought 5 Traumatic Fragments since they're cheap as shit and fought Incarnation of Fear. No deaths, i can't just stand in front of the big fiery murder laser but that felt like a given.
>>550462930>>550463078thats what 12k ES does to a nigga, thanks Mark
>>550463112>Frog>RetardClassic
>>550463169>Why should I, so I can play the same game again but with one more gimmick?leagues and a fresh economy have been the lifeblood of arps for decades. diablo 4 does the same. new acts will bring new players. new leagues will bring old players back.
>>550462930ignites are retarded, even with 12k ES he just instantly died lol. They legit hit 20x harder than bleed or poison now
i just don' thave fun playing poe2i know i know.. but i just don't
>>550463168open betas don't have a pricetag
>>550462930dude just stood there and ate it
>>550463298The poe1 leagues with the better numbers are the ones where they add new bosses and weapons, aka expansionsGay low effort gimmicky leagues will always be trash, even more so when the game isn't done and you are still in the process of acquiring the playerbaseMind you this is probably their strat for poe2. Even releases will be low effort, odd releases will be actual content
>>550463391literally me
>>550463461meant to write closed beta, should have been obvious
The fact that videogame companies literally invent devices that print money and then for the next time out the gate they try to reinvent the wheel just baffles me.They could have made every single mechanic exactly the same as POE1 with updated graphics, the current POE2 class lineup and skill tree, and a few QOL upgrades. Instead we got whatever the hell amalgamation this is between having the skeleton of possible the best ARPG ever made wearing a Dark Souls flesh-suit over the top of it. People don't want to slow-ass dodge roll through the game getting one-tapped by regular mobs, they want to zoom and boom.
>>550462290they wont do thati think this is not a secret for anyone that we never was in EAIt is release game and those patches are just that - post-release patchesand they treat it like thatthe ONLY reason why they are doing that is to sell MTX assigned to each individual leaguesso they wont abandon concept of the leagues because that means abandoing comfortable MTX money milking once a few months
I ate a bunch of yogurt today and now I've been shitting farting all night. My room stinks.
>>550440895>release a terrible patch with SLOG league mechanic and no substantial changes>players leave in droves because nobody wants to play this trash >fuck off on holiday until mid january when league is already dead big stink GGG, big stink TOO (2)
>>550463391Reminder to all the poe1 babies that this "horrible retention curve" is about what poe1 had been like forever and still has a higher peak than poe1 ever has.Your game is still getting eos'd, and poe2 struggling is just going to make it happen faster.
>>550463727k
>>550463707>I ate a bunch of yogurt today and now I've been shitting farting all night. My room stinks.
>>550463727>still has a higher peak than poe1 ever has.no it isn't
>>550463826I look like this
>>550461227>support gems that can be are all awakened>except multistrikefix it.
>>550463727funny you say that when poe1 is steadily growing despite a year long hiatus and poe2 is actively declining.
>>550463608It's not a closed beta, a closed beta is invite only and usually very limited runtimeIt would be an open beta if they weren't selling access for cashWhat is is is a cashgrab trying to make money off hype from impulsefags before the game goes F2P. Most games simply go buy to play for a couple of years before becoming F2P but Jonathan is so sure that his game is hot shit he thinks he can sell it while outright telling everyone that it's going to be F2P "soon". Sorry, sell "early access" I mean, if it was a real product then people would be allowed to complain that it sucks
WHERE'S THE "WE ARE SORRY" VIDEOO???????? HELLOO?????
>>550464030It's going to be a "Message to Path of Exile 1 Players"
>>550463912you got the 200d for me to do that? i make almost no d/h lmao I getl ike 2-3 hundred yellow lifeforce on a good run of a map.
>>550464016>https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Closed_Beta_supporter_packcute little newfren
>>550464030You're going to get a minimum effort patch that fixes nothing on Monday along with an announcement of "planned changes" for 0.5. Then they're off to 3 month holidays
>Elemental Storm>Has the orb tag not the storm tagwhat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3nY-lthJcNEW SUPPORTER PACK JUST DROPPED
Let you bank it up so you can ignore it completely or a while and then go and build temples in bulk targeting rewards that are unique to the temple.
>>550464140Remind me how many leagues did PoE1 closed beta have? How many classes? How long did it run for? At least that was a real betaNo, a normal closed beta to a F2P game doesn't sell access. "GGG has done it before" doesn't make it appropriate
>>550464103
>>550464107>2-3 hundred yellow lifeforce on a good run of a mapI don't even know how to respond to this, what kind of setup do you use? are you using 8mods?
>>550464107stop begging and learn how to play the game you disgusting retard
>>550464103>When we started, we believed we could handle 2 games>turns out jonathan is retarded and completely out of touch with reality, oops>so we're sunsetting poo 1, and continuing to develop poo 2 at a snail's pace anyway>no refunds
>>550464487Hey I'm getting stuff done, i just hate to put a bunch of money into a chance to get more out than i put in. If I dropped a Doubling Scarab and got one of those runs where the plants are so shitty they pretty much don't drop any lifeforce at all, then I'm just out money. I can't save up for 2 3P Voices and an Awakened Multistrike by LOSING money.>>550464420I take rare t16 maps and i use no scarabs, no chisels, etc. I just play the ones I like like Strand, Atoll, Villa, etc. My Atlas is currently set up for Settlers stuff to try and get Starfall Craters (currently 0/4 on any decent drops) and Harvest (not Crop Rotation).
>basically we're just gonna add a crocodile skin for the coolest and most fun class and let the scalies carry until 1.0
>>550464739its not a chance to get more out than you put in, its always profitablescarabs are priced around the fact that it takes you time to run them, basically every useful uncommon scarab has the price that you would expect to get 10-20d/hr farming with itstop being retarded and listen when people tell you how to play the game
>>550464497>and continuing to develop poo 2 at a snail's pace anywayI find it funny that a lot of poo2ers don't realize this is what would happen even if they eos'd poo1
poe2 did not turn out like how we hoped
Is there a point to using a rare sceptre (like the crit weakness one) instead of using a focus on a regular caster. Are focus mods just too powerful compared to the extra spirit + aura?
>>550463826this bitch needs to go to the gym
>>550464850He's literally retarded anon, don't bother. He thinks that using a 1c scarab is a huge cost that he might not break even on, let alone a 60c scarab like Doubling
even the poe2 subreddit is graphposting now...
>>550463824Have we gotten an apology patch every league so far?
>>550464850>it's always profitableI just feel like the act of spending on it doesn't feel good, and then I'm hyper aware of if the runs are going well. I did a test the other night with 10 doubling, 10 cornucopia, 2 kalguur scarabs, and a monstrous lineage or whatever the more magic monsters one is, and i spent about 1000c and got about 1900c out of it. But that's after straight up selling everything that came of it, so I didn't even feel like i profited all that much for what I put in. I don't know, i dislike investing in a slot machine.
Do you guys think Jonathan is hanging from the rafters yet?
>diablo 4 season raped poe 2 update on the same day
>>550465406He's counting the 60,000 he just made from mystery boxes
>>550464850>its not a chance to get more out than you put in, its always profitableim going to give swordbro one here. farming harvest currently is actually dogshit and its a gamble to break even. yellow juice is crazy expensive, scarabs are crazy expensive and blue/red juice are crazy worthless. if you dont get a really big yellow juice drops then you probably are losing money.
>>550463826I mean, I kinda get why these sluts are so vapid. Imagine how intoxicating it must be to be this hot.
>>550460947Remember how the first tier of supporter pack was Geonor's sword skin? kek
>>550465272its not a slot machine, i just explained it to youslot machines in a casino lose you money on averageusing scarabs gains you currency on averagejust listen to what smart players tell you to do the same way you let them tell you what items to equip
>>550465609I am breaking even on blue and purple juice alone right now and saving my yellow juice because it is a better long term value storage than raw divines
>strongest druid build is wyvern default attackthe absolute state of tubathon
>>550465465nobody plays that so nobody knew or cares, maybe try the blizzdrone general
>>550463365yea
>>550465609then you just farm something else, theres no way 2-3 div/hr is a real number on a character with magebloodalthough im pretty sure hes doing something fundamentally retarded because theres no way you only get a few hundred liceforce per map without doublingprobably running scoured maps or something
>>550465465>GGG try and clown on Diablio Immortal during Exilecon>D:I makes over 1 billion in a yearJonathan deserves to fail.
>>550465848jonathan, everyone hates your game and nobody is playing it.
>>550465745>I am breaking even on blue and purple juice alone right nowthis is literally not possible unless prices changed. how much is juice to divine and scarabs right now? even just poorfag doubling+cornucopia was around a divine of upfront cost before i quit and blue/red juice was 10k+ to a divine.
>>550465465i would unironically rather play d4 than poe2 in its current state
Cuck here. Should I return to this game?
>>550465041women do not belong in the gym
>>550465874yeah i only commented on harvest because lifeforce prices were genuinely bizarre this league. like 2k yellow for a div and then in worst case it was like 15k red? to a divine. this is not normal, i have never seen juice prices this fucked before.
>>550466072You should spam graphs all day like a good little brown golem.
>>550466072No, there genuinely are so many other better things you can do with your time.Let it cook a while longer and see what happens
>>550466072fakecuck detectedtruecucks never leave in the first place
>>550466004Cornucopia + doubling + risk is 130c (0.7d)I pull ~ 2-3000 of each color per map. At current prices (7k blue/div, 12k purple/div) 2.5k blue and purple are 0.6dIf I get at least 0.1d random drops in the map I have broken even without even counting my yellow juice. With 250% quality and 60% pack size after tree modifiers and altars, I get way more than 0.1d from random drops
The cameramen are laughing
>>550466558>a couple thousand hours nowDo these niggas have jobs? Or are they just leaving it AFK to flex their steam /played?
>>550465646>>550465609Decided to show the map I was about to do, the tree i use, and the outcome. I actually got pretty lucky here that 3/5 of the harvests had yellow nodes, the other two had only blues.
RELEASE DUELIST NOW
>>550466635get a real job where you work from home and you too will have a lot of playtime :)
>>550466440then prices improved quite a bit, still not very good if your goal is fast currency imo.
>>550466072
is the new fire bear unique actually good or is it just expensive because it's new and looks cooli got one randomly from simulacrum and wondering if i make a bear or sell it
>>550466161theres a meta build that requires a ton of yellow juice, you need to reforge phys for explode chest on herald stacker which costs like... 30k juice per succesful elevated chest, maybe even more. but yeah theres a ton of players quitting the league and gambling their shit while there are not many left to farm scarabs or harvest
>>550466161everyone abandoned keepers early because it was a shit league mechanic and ggg doubled down on the worst part of it
>>550466817There are no "good" farming strategies this league, you take what you can get (and stomach)Harvest is simple, fast, has decent chance for jackpot drops with all that quant you're stacking, and is easy to price and liquidate
>>550452778None of the fights in act one are too hard, especially since they don't tend to oneshot you.It was honestly whiplash when I first went from act one to two and the second boss had a one shot attack.
>>550465112they're stealing my thing. wtf. how am gonna earn my (You)s now?
>>550466714>no quality on map>52% quant>no scarabs>20% monster pack size>that ridiculous atlas treewhat the fuck????
>>550467105Anon, chisels cost 0.5c have mercy on his wallet
>>550466714use 8mod corrupted mapsclick all the explicit effect nodes on the atlas and the nodes for your eldritch altar of choice click the quant nodes in the middlethese give you way more quant in the map which means more lifeforcealso click the nodes to reduce the chance of red and blue lifeforce if you really want to use 0 scarabsdrop the random trash nodes like kingsmarch, scarabs and blocking mechanics, youre not doing a scarab farm
>>550467049The rule of thumb is to always do the opposite of what reddit is doingAnyways you should have always been a poe2chad from the start since it's easily one of the best games of the decade and will be the blueprint for all arpgs for the next several generations
>>550467105You wouldn't understand a tripfag's complex machinations.
>>550461441can someone explain how this happened? preferably using a haiku
>>550467254it has to be really depressing for whoever is tasked with gathering feedback from this thread. literal pity hopeposting.
>>550466714I finally see why you beg for divines.
they broke pob2
>>550467359Fast progress, too fastDone with goals in a weekendAsync trade did this
>>550467565gog trvke
>>550467565anon that picture was about poe2, not poe1
>>550461441>>550467359the tub overflowpotent aromas engulf the exile alone I'm not very good at this.
Async and Faustus ruined POE2, they simply need to be removed.>generates an AI thumbnail and fats around retardedly
the thing I hate the most about poe2 is how it's not even out yet and already suffers from the same issues poe1 does
>>550467359campaign more tiresome season after seasonnext league the new worst
I played for like 20 hours then I got sick of rolling so I quit
>>550461441Clearly the lesson from this is new female class = player retention, it's time to make Duelist a cute girl.
>>550467664Poo two now easyNow has poo one retentionReally makes me think
>>550467821this is pretty good
>>550467759did you expect GGG to learn from their mistakes?the only thing that surprises me is that after Chris left the decisions they're making are MORE retarded. I didn't expect Chris to be dragging the average competence level up, rather than down.
>>550467614When is jonathan going to leave and mark take over?
>>550466714Unironically speechless.
>>550467359tedious campaignrare monster hunting game mapsdiablo wonned
>>550467359same campaign againsame small endgame again toogetting so sleepy
Does killing last rare monster no longer give you a way stone
>>550467916this needs to happen but they also need to find someone to take over poe1frogmode looks like hes aged a decade in the last year from effectively managing both games
>>550461441Troonathan must be stopped
rollslopping being an active part of your global defence instead of a gimmicky you do to avoid an instant puzzle is the worst innovation ever in arpgs
>top thread in reddit is a doomchartlmao what's the difference in discourse between us again?
I'm downloading D4. Looking at build videos, it seems like a more enjoyable game at this point. I can't take moving at a snail's pace any longer.
>>550468196instakill puzzle*
>>550467105I use the maps i get, or whatever comes out of alching a map i like going to>>550467162this, what if i run out using them on maps like that?>>550467207>use 8mod corrupted mapsHow do those even come into existence?>click all the explicit effect nodes on the atlas and the nodes for your eldritch altar of choiceOh, i had just taken off my Searing Exarch stuff, I guess I can put it back on>also click the nodes to reduce the chance of red and blue lifeforce if you really want to use 0 scarabsOkay, sensible>drop the random trash nodes like kingsmarch, scarabs and blocking mechanics, youre not doing a scarab farmIs getting Scarabs bad? I figure any drop chance is a plus. Also if I'm doing Exarch + Harvest, that leaves a lot of points, doesn't it? Gimme a minute to get some Orbs of Unmaking and see what I can do.>>550467510>>550467978I do like free stuff.
Yea I've stopped supporting the company financially for a long time now. I just found myself asking myself one question entirely way too much. "How did this go live?" As much as people bash on Rue and Jung for being negative, they're right... The simple fact of the matter is that they don't test a majority of anything that they release.We as a community pay them to be quality control, and honestly I've just been done with it for several years now.
>0.2 releases>Reddit is up in arms>Dire player count drop>Shills come out preaching that Last Epoch is so much better, everyone should play that>Everyone quickly realizes that Last Epoch actually sucks and PoE is still miles ahead of its competition0.4 and Diablo 4. History repeats.
>>550468196I pretty much never dodge roll except to clip through mobs.
What I don't understand is how this even made it into the game. Did nobody test it? It's so obvious how bad it is. Jonathan said he doesn't play endgame and that's fine but they surely have other testers, right? It only takes an hour of mapping to realize how bad it is.It's not even about the mechanic itself, which actually seem fine except for some missing QoL features and lack of explanation, but the complete lack of rewards in the endgame. If I'm in maps and you are giving me a regal orb workbench something is very wrong.
>>550468414they dont even think in terms "will it be fun?" only "is it too OP?"
>>550468456i would easily pick playing le over poe2 right now
i'm only in it for the exiled again videos at this point
>>550468683doubt it, LE is poop
>>550468634>surely have other testers, right?What? No. GGG has 240 artists, 2 project managers, 3 programmers and no QA
300 tub cleaners and jon
>HE WEARS THE GOLEM SUIT
>>550468371you can buy 8 mod corrupted via trade search. search for beach map, corrupted, tier 16, and 100 min quant. collapse listing by account and hideout hop till you find a vendor selling a bunch. look for people selling at 1c more than min market price. have a regex ready to filter out bad mods. buy in bulk. in general it's not worth it to run non corrupted 8 mod maps.
>>550468816me and my vtuber slave squad
>>550467904>he only thing that surprises me is that after Chris left the decisions they're making are MORE retardedyou might be the most retarded anon in this thread
>>5504683718 mod maps are farmed with a specific scarab (cartography scarab of corruption)im going to spoonfeed you because something teach a man to fishheres what you doon another atlas tree, click all the nodes for>exarch>chance for maps to drop 1 tier higher (it makes you drop more maps, trust the science)>explicit effect>quant>shrinesthis leaves you with some points, use them however you want, kingsmarch and bismuth chance is good but doesnt really matter>singular focus (important)this is your map farm atlaschoose a map that you like best, jungle valley is common because the exarch altars cant be things related to the boss so you have a higher chance to get quant on the altarfavor that map in all your favored slotsuse these scarabs>1x cartography escalation>1x cartography corruption>3x cartography multitudeand just go into a map and kill the monsters. this will drop a ton of 8 mod maps which drop way more loot. use these 8 mod maps for the map farm too, you will get more maps that way.you will have to buy a few scarabs but they are dirt cheap
>>550467916not soon enough im afraid brother
>>550460636In d2 you would join public lobbies and farm Tristan until lvl 18 or something and then just speed run to andariel. In act 2 you'd speed run to tombs lvl to 28 and then speed run all the way to arreat It's funny they think d2 had this really long seasonal campaign when everyone got to lvl 85 in 4 to 5 hrs. I suspect d2 would never have made it as far as it did because all the bots functioned as campaign skips
>>550466714>this is the kind of player that gets mirror dropsit's so joever
>>550468198/poeg/ did it since day one
>>550468816what was Krafton thinking?
>>550469075what
how do u single target with spears in act 1
>>550469212try autoattack
>>550469212Your basic attack bro?
don't be fooled by the "Druid" hype or the "bad" league mechanic (bad retention).it's a trend, and the problem is the base game and core design choices which are still the same. Overdesigned skills and tedium.
>>550469075he just started playing cut him some slack
is there a d2/pd2 build that can sustain on its own without ever slurping potions? im going to download it right now if there is one
>>550469212the stacking whirlwind thing into popping it is fine iirc
>>550461260The game has no rewards because nothing is worth doing. Fix the itemizatiom system, the crafting system, unique design, and make a mechanic that interact with those systems in interesting ways That's how poe1 did it. People would have been trying to craft onto temple mod rare right now. But we don't have that. And we don't have a reasonable way to craft. And we don't have an itemization system that lends itself to a good trade economy
>>550469212this isnt poe1 attack skills are bloatwe DEFAULT ATTACK in this gameyeee booyyyyy
>>550469238>>550469256throw or melee?
>>550469206he got a mirror from mappers
More than any of the gameplay?I wasnt incentivized to spend money, which is actually bad for GGG.The league is Fate of the Vaal, featuring Atziri, and lots of Vaal characters... and neither the supporter packs or mystery boxes capitalized.Why is there not Atziri cosplay? More blood magic or vaal skill skins? Doryani cosplay?GGG not being able to monetize and capilize here is actually bad for their bottom line, and the lack of things to buy here is a real bummer.I would have bought supporter content, but it feels like theres barely anything here.
>>550469212parry, disengage, explosive spear
>>550469212throw down an explosive spear -> spin into the mobs (spin applies blind) -> leave the spinny dirt -> explosive spear explodes and the spinny dirt explodes.
does anyone actually play the gamewhats the status of double corrupt and foulborn benches (or rather their respective orbs)before release some people were hyping these up but it seems like 99.9% of players start skipping the mechanic or quit the league entirely before they ever see one of thoseany poggers chase uniques? are we pogging out rn?
>>550469417PleaseThinkAboutTheBillionDollarCompany.basedjack
>>550469381melee is faster but depends on what boss you're facing obviously, the situation, if you're playing hc, if you don't know his moves etc
>>550465112i wouldnt be surprised if its the graph posting faggot in here thats posted it on reddit
burned out on day 5 already>looks at chartsseems I'm not alone in this onetime to wait another 4+ months for jonny to shit out a new league
>>550469557>the graph posting faggotwe're dozens
DOG SHIT 2WORST LEAGUE OF ALL TIME
don't underestimate the legion of doomposters
>>550469614really fucking hype for poe 1;s abyss two league where they just paint the fucking breach shit green. whoops didnt have enough time to continue the multi league story we said we were gonna do a year ago. again
>>550469480what do you fucking think, dumbass everyone quit the league already
poeg invented chartpostingfubcel brought it to the masses reddit are repeating it
PoE1 removed exp penalty on bosses but how about 2? About to try Arbiter and wonder if I should lvl up first
>>550469707>hop in the map>kill all the abyss monsters >get fat lootwould unironically be a good league just like it was in poe2throw in some new crafting toys, maybe some interaction with other league mechanics like in poe2 and its kino
alkaizer status?quin69 status?zaccie status?zz ran status?ruetoo status?mathil status?steelmage status?
>>550461441>Yawn of the Hunt beating Fate of the Vaalholy shit doomsissies won...
>>550469902rapedrapedrapedgaywonGAYgay
>basic attack is the best way to play the game earlylmao what a piece of shit game
>>550469902>alkaizer status?meltying nonstop, verbatim said he would have quit by now if he wasnt a streamer, most likely had a falling out with zacchie>quin69 status?still in campaign>zaccie status?in hiding>zz ran status?dooming and playing softcore with his friends because the league is so bad>ruetoo status?raping innocent women and dooming>mathil status?only one that seems to be having fun>steelmage status?see zz ran status
>>550469058>d2 public lobbies fake, d2 was singleplayer, the internet wasn't a thing back then for the pirated version i was playing anyway
>>550469480I never got to maps
>>550469298Hammerdin with redemption aura
>>550469895dont you fucking do it neon. dont you fucking do it
>>550469480that's actually the funniest part
is this game dead?
>>550470079>mathil>only one that seems to be having funbreach 2 somehow one of his favourite leagues of all time like he fell down a case of stairs
>>550469289Exactly. Poor retention is often a trailing indicator. Meaning people were upset by some bullshit last league, but were able to get over it because something else made up for it (namely the infusion rework archon crap was made up for by blood mage being as opposed as it was) now that that's gone and people are pivoting into other things to find fun they are finding out that: ranged is again superior, spells suck ass, and druid is a piece of shit.The league mechanic is the least of this games worries
>>550469480you don't double or even single corrupt before endgame and most players haven't even built rarity yet. that being said i'm doubtful anyone will ever care, poe2 always had a no endgame content problem but it's 10x worse this league with map instilling gone.
>>550468982>buyI-I don't know about all that, anon>>550469020>ExarchOkay got it>Chance to maps to drop 1 tier higherGot 'em>Explicit EffectOkie>QuantOkay I think I got them all>Singular FocusGot it, gonna set the map to something I like, but also why can't it be something related to the boss on Jungle Valley? I was thinking Strand, Beach, or Villa personally. Is there a specific benefit to using the same map in every favored slot or is that just to make sure i don't mess up and get the wrong map?>ShrinesOkay, explain this to me like I'm retarded, why? Aren't those just the stupid rocks with the middling buffs on them except for like the one that makes you fast and the one that makes you invulnerable?>Buy ScarabsI'm trusting you that they're cheap, I'll get a couple and see how it feels. I also have 14 points left on my Atlas after removing everything except what you suggested.
>>550470301Drop the harvest node in the middle, the three quant nodes aren't worth it.
>>550470094You were a filthy casual then
Genshin wonHonkai Star Rail wonEuropa Universalis 5 wonRuecels wonHopesissies lost
>>550470283can't kill arbiter lil gup?
>>550470301Big suggestion: get rid of harvest in the middle and take Essence instead. It's passive gain for either crafting or income and you have the points to get almost all of the nodes.
>mediumcorewhat the shit is this?
>>550470554wdym everyone can kill arbiter you get unlimited attempts.
>>550470550truth (no v)
>>550470624apparently you cant because you cant get your rarity up lil gupertino
>>550470550>Honkai Star Rail wonno they didn't, extended shitty 3.8 patch and 4.0 Japan content being redone
>>550470141does it work in pd2 too or only unmodded
>>550470571some shit ziz made up so he doesnt have to play hc
>>550470714the Japan planet was doomed to fail just like Inazuma failed.
>>550470571loser talk desperate for approval despite being not good enough to warrant it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQxe4AupLewi got poe2 years ago expecting this when it came out last yeara year later and 90% of the game is still missingWHERE THE FUCK ARE THE WEAPONS
Surely they're going to buff everything before they go on Holiday
T R V K E
>>550468816>kimchi eaters payed 90 something million dollars for this
Will GGG fix the league to Abyss Tier before the Christmas break i wonder
>>550470079quin finished the campaign last night
>>550470561>>550470440Okay here we go. 7 points left because i can't reach the last essence thing.
>>550470941Counterpoint:
>>550471103what's there to test anyways? It takes 65 levels to get access to every skill
Can you bookmark searches in the in game trade window
>>550470893>and no exile will stop medid they cut the entire opening sequence from the game? i dont remember anybody ever referring to the player character as exile in poe2
>>550470941100% true that removing towers ruined endgame, it's dead boring nowtowers gave it a bit of spice, not much, but it was something at least...
>>550471098You're a gay retard. Drop Explicits by Quality since you're too much of a fag to chisel your maps.
>>550470249it makes perfect sensetheres hundreds of new-ish uniques to play around with and he never cared about farming currency in endgame
>>550468634in the tri nterview Jonathan said they were working on making the vaal temple endgame compatible, and this was on the week before release, so I don't think they finished it on time given its current state.I think there should have been an update to the room rewards once you get to lvl 75 architect but there doesn't seem to be any changes? I think they didn't finish it in time and we likely get a mid league update on the temple endgame
>>550471103Based as fuck, campaign is mapping with story these people are fucking retards
>>550471232Negative
poo2 big shit clog the pipes
>>550470301shrines serve three purposesthey are surrounded by monsters which drop loot some of them significantly speed you up which more than makes up for the extra split second it takes you to click themthe covetus shrine gives extra quant and rarity
Campaign sucks because there are no special farming zones like countess in Diablo 2
>>550471162Campaignfag dadgamer doesn't have a build in mind, he's just picking up anything he finds and seeing where it takes him. He approaches the game like it's an atmospheric RPG rather than a grinding ARPGNot pictured: tens of thousands of other campagnfags who have already "completed the game" and didn't return for 0.4. Because this attitude only works if you play the game once then revisit it out of nostalgia 4 years later, it doesn't work if you come back for every league
>>550470301>why can't it be something related to the boss on Jungle Valley?its a weird mechanic, the boss somehow doesnt count as part of the map before it spawns in or something so the game doesnt spawn eldritch altars with a boss mod. instead its always a players gain mod and a minions gain mod on the altar as if you had already killed the boss. mausoleum is the same
>>550470893>Over half of the Act 4 bosses, Druid, Templar, and Shadow were in development and showcased in a video over two years agoBleakGenuinely what the fuck has taken so long
>>550471485even poe1 had docks, aqueducts, dried lake, blood aqueducts or that area before innocence i forgot its name
Arbiter is too hard. They can't lock content behind this.
>>550471619there is nothing weird about it, the boss just doesnt exist on the map before you get there.
>>550471467Understood, Captain!>>550471256Got it! I'm still able to take 10% more magic monsters on that too after getting all of the Essence things. Set all of my favored Maps to Strand and am gonna play a few maps to see if I can get some of it.Here we go.>>550471619That's really cool, honestly.
>>550441267>Gather fuel by standing in oil ground. After 5 seconds, use the accumulated fuel to channel a powerful Righteous Fire.
>>550441426>Die if not at max endurance charges at the end of the duration
>>550471275The campaign is mostly waypointing around and mashing through long monologues actually. If it was actually just mapping with story it would be fine.
>>550470571campaign is so boring that they dont want to go through it again, instead they just delete gear when they die
>>550471830>cannot recover life and energy shield during skill duration
>>550471830you forgot that righteous fire lasts 5secons and gets extended by 1s for consuming each endurance charge
>>550471485Early Poe1 campaigning never gave you enough XP on the higher difficulties to run through each zone once, so you ended up having to farm certain zones.I'd much rather just farm one zone per act of my choice and then do a single quest to complete the final boss. That would also solve the problem of league mechanics feeling like a waste of time during the campaign because overleveling doesn't mean you can skip zones.
man the campaign is such a miserable experience
>>550471830>Can not gain fuel while active.
>another boss kill stolen from me in act4Does my guy actually get to do anything in the story
Where are the cool/fun builds?
>>550472285>awful skill design>boring passive tree>miserable campaign>no endgamewhat does poe2 offer?
>>550472362no
>>550472383a hope to cling on for tourists and a good target to shit on on /poeg/
>>550472375no such thing, welcome to tub 2
JONATROON
>/v/ is making fun of us again
>>550472383>what does poe2 offer?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4-Mf9OuCkw
>>550472383Very nice animations
>hit every combo and dodge most shit at jamanra>run out of mana and flasks at 25%>slowly diegreat game faggots
>>550472540They don't deserve poe2's ludo
>>550471787Update: Nearly got killed a couple times, but i had a lot of fun clearing that out. All of the Corrupted Strands I got are between 98-123% quantity on them.
>>550472623go back to plebbit faggot nobody wants you here
>>550472623stay in /poeg/
>>550472383A new generation of sycophant streamers that will shill gggs slop to gen a as zoomer and millennial burnouts are intentionally sunset for going against the vision
due to work related reasons, I can only start poo 2 today.no point in playing since we got the same shitty endgame right? wait for 0.5?
crashed on arbiter and can't afford another attempt. gg guess the league is over for me
>>550472716Nah, reddit is just good for shitposting about edh or watching retards fight about if they can understand hypotheticals>>550472770I'm here to stay until i decide to play something else way too much lmao>killing first essence monster>explodes into 6l60 fusings hell yeah
>>550473090Wait for 0.6 bro. It will have the new endgame and the 0.6!'/###
>>550473090if you have anything remotely better to do, skip
why are the acts this dogshit?
>>550472383it has good graphics and audio designcould it have been a visual update for poe1 (formerly poe)? yeah lol
>>550473245They aren't. They are great actually.
>>550473384stick your big chungus souls bossfights up your ass woodful, they are so boring and badly designed
I think I did all the side quests but some still show as uncompleted on my map, can anyone confirm if they are bugged or what?Two of the vendors you find in the jungle zones in Act 3The hideout in Act 4Navali in Act 4The Ferryman in one of the interludes
So we're guaranteed to get a "What we're working on" post today, right? There's no way Jonatroon will let the game burn down before the holidays....
>>550473458Make a better build. Or maybe follow Fubgun's guide.
>>550473458there's way worse things than the bossfights to complain lmao
>>550472762I AM THE TUBI AM THE POO AND THE ETURDALI... AM... TROONATHAN!
>>550473245The acts are both horrible and great.Some parts are a miserable slog while others are very enjoyable.Overall, I find them miles better than PoE1 where everything is just a barricade leading up to maps that you have to plow through as fast as possible.But I do feel that the balancing of various spots in the acts is a major pain point.
>0 changes in the patch notes that I'd care aboutcya in 0.5 lel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWa4ZdQ1pgQso wyvern is OPnow is bear?
>>550473458geonor is better than every fight in poe1 except uber elder thoughbeit
>>550473618>>550473624i am doing giga meta grenades and they just don't deal any damage SURELY it's my build and not the game being absolute unadulterated dogshit that spites its players on every turn possible
wtf how did the mods allow the player graph post on reddit? did they just give up???
Is rues build viable?Not seeing a lot of xbow builds
>>550473245Pacing is fucked
It's truly amazing that Jonathan managed to turn even the biggest shill into a doomGAWD
When is we getting exilence ce2
>>550473727>AI shit on the video cover artLmao, not watching that.Bear is fine.Wolf is fine too once you start abusing the 1 mechanic that isn't undertuned.
>>550473560morale at the ggg office must be at rock bottom kekthey just had the worst leagues in poe1 and poe2 history back to backpoe2 looks doomed and their approach to developing both games clearly isnt workingthey will probably release a half hearted what were working on post but i wouldnt be surprised if jonathan steps down soon, hes clearly very emotionally attached to the success of his game and gets upset if its criticised
>>550473746They're still deleting stuff here and there but yes they've basically given up
>>550473972retardbear is so fucking op
doomGODS we wonpoo2 = big stink it's over
>poe2 looks doomedMan, if millions of dollars for shitting out garbage is "doomed," I would be happy to ride that "sinking ship."
Woooow so much choicesRMTers already made bank
>>550473746the subreddit ONLY has doom postsit would be empty except for some "omg i found a divine / mirror / headhunter" posts if the mods enforced the no complaining ruledoomgawds won
>everyone goign wolf or beargood leave my wyvern alone its more op than both combined
>they will shift all focus to poo 2 and leave poo 1 behind because this league is shitIt's over poo 1 bros
>>550473984The only thing Jonathan should step down from is the side of a bridge
YOOO ITS UP BROhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ64WVuqWBw
>>550474179The funny part is all their focus is already on poo 2 with poo 1 having a skeleton crew,AND it's STILL this bad
just finished the campaign and made it to maps in hcthis game will be fucking dead in hc unless they create some alternate way of levelingthe interludes at the end felt more appropirate. maybe they could take those and create some alternate, faster way of leveling if you have already completed the campaign on your account.it's criminal how much of a slog it was to get through the campaign
>>550473727This has all been possible with maces and fissure skills already. The only reason bear is more powerful is because of the fucking "while shapeshifted" nodes that they made sure to juice so their big new pet class isn't DOA.
>>550473739Probably need an xbow upgrade. Fubgun wouldn't play a build if it didn't 2-3 shot every boss through the campaign.
>>550474346why's there only a new bear skin unique?where are wolf and wyverns uniques
>>550474263Lily boobs
>>550474312congratulations, you made it through the campaign. You are now allowed to play the endgame with epic content such as uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>550474263it's been up for a whilewe need new doomer faces for the collage >>550470039
>>550474450>>550474418i just love her broslikeseriously love her
Don't really know why anyone would want to work for Jonatroon when they could jump ship and go work for Chris and redeem their soul
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>>550474087That's actually pretty healthy overall.>4 of them in the sub-1% as usual>Dominant ascends (mostly new stuff) aren't over 20%This is what it looked like day-5 last League.
>>550474398cool, and where am i gonna pull that from, my ass?
>>550474474>Can't keep his insufferable dipshit memes that nobody else ascribes to out of the OPCritical failure.
>>550473245They made the act zones retarded to navigate and with no clear progression. After act 1 you are constantly bouncing around, backtracking, porting back to town etc. Almost none of the story takes place outside of the town, everything is exposition dumped on you back at town after you get the mcguffin or kill the big bad. There's no seamless progression to the zones because every quest is either hidden in a side area (a3) or requires you to take a scenic vehicle cutscene to get to it (a2, a4). This coupled with the aforementioned exposition dumps means the gameplay and pacing is constantly broken up by npc vomitous
>>550473729>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0rVi5ti8TYi like geonor but high templar avarius/innocence brutally mogs all of poe 2 campaign
>>550474514You should be checking the vendor after every level up for a weapon thats better if yours is falling off
>>550472716kys nigger i like swordbro
>>550458330https://youtu.be/dsks0-fG2ro?si=EdY5zmE0OQuI7eMQConsider me reminded. This proves they have literally no QA. they just kinda write stuff and ship it.
>>550474263My dude Larry lookin good with his dress and little boobs
>>550474482and Kitava is one of the most played in HCSSF. Just not good for SC div/hr ladder clumbers, but that's fine
>>550477821Wrong, Kitava is in fourth, not even the most popular Warrior ascendancy little chud.