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[PoE2]
>Druids Info
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212
>Disciple of Allah Ascendancy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLa90dXVDWE

[PoE 1]
>Keepers of the Fart
https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7J

previous waystone: >>550417123
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>>550440891
What model had a vajania
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tubbed
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Coping and hoping that development will start to speed up after acts 5/6 are done
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This made me smile.
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>he is a jingakh
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It would be a shame if GGG were exposed for using AI in any way
A terrible shame indeed
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>>550441113
tubbed, mazed and raped.
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>sword slash effect
iam so ready for swords i cant wait any longer
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2 will never have a skill as fun as Righteous Fire, will it?
Why do they hate fun?
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>88,000 tubbed retards remain
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pooegg2
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>>550441315
i legit have the same just hit interludes
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>>550441267
PoE2's RF would require you to get fire infusions to trigger and it would only last 8 seconds or something.
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>>550441203
TDS tier post
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>>550441267
>poe2 rf
>you build up righteous charges and then spend them to set yourself on fire for 5s
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I don't think this league is that bad. I just think it's a melee without a shield problem. Or melee without 30k armor problem.
ES sorc last league was comfy
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>>550441443
>TDS
speak in human language instead of some retard acronyms nobody knows about
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Why is it so hard for GGG to make druid fun and good?
It is not a rocket science.
In D2 it is basically you transforming and fighting, or using summons or using nature magic. Nothing complicated but fun.
Same shit with the druids in other ARPGs: GD, D4, LE.
I feel like GGG has truly smoothbrains working because their iterations of popular archetypes look like significant downgrades in comparison to those from other games.
Totally expect Templar to be an absolute fucking parody on a Paladin class with 5 button combos and charge system to do 1% of boss HP.
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Act 1 works because the monsters across the board in POE have a problem of nothing they can do other than attack and sprint, and Act1 enemies are just on average slower due to being zombies etc, yes you get spammed on later on in Act1 but the mob variety is such that it's not awful.

By the time you're at the Dreadnought you are in full realisation of what the problem with this game is.
The player has a bounding box. Monsters have a bounding box.
GGG has programmed the monster bounding box to intersect the player bounding box while doing either 0 sprint or 1 attack. That's it.

That's why we have to screen clear. That's why the combos don't work. Enemies have no concept of downtime or uptime, the player does not instigate the combat and smash the enemies who are waiting frozen in fear or apprehensive. No, the enemies across the entire game after the first half of Act 1 all are rabies zombies that no matter what think they all have a chance to kill you (which they do).
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jonathan seriously needs to be demoted for this
jonathan seriously needs to be demoted for this
jonathan seriously needs to be demoted for this

what the actual fuck is happening, im so fucking angry
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Why is every other character a powerful woman who does mengele shit to people and is somewhere between a christmas cake and a milf?
Which writer has this fetish? Because it's based.
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What went wrong?
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>>550441572
troonathan derangement syndrome
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>>550441696
Everyone's at work and church and taking care of their kids
300k on Friday night when people get a chance to unwind and continue Act 3
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Diablo 4 is going to get a better endgame tree before PoE2 does
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>>550441684
Act 2's final stretch on the Dreadnought was such horrible dogshit to get through in 0.1 I almost dropped the game. I feel like it was almost on purpose considering how fucking atrocious Act 3 was at the time.
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TURN OUT THE BEST DEFENSE IS THE SCREEN AND ALL THE BOSSES BEING PERMANENTLY FROZEN. DONT NEED DEFENSE IF THE CPU CANT PLAY. KEK.
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Deshar is the new Act 2 slog
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>>550441631
I'm wolf shaman ssf with a pretty bad talisman and I'm mostly clearing with lunar assault. It feels fun and I have the damage to progress, I'm just squishy as fuck, and it seems like t14 is the cutoff for greater exalt drops?
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>>550441716
because making her a young woman would be retarded
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I see the poe1bab discord has their newest cope lmao
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Roachbros, is it time yet?
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>>550441151
This too
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>>550441726
honestly i dont think comparing keepers to other leagues is fair. thanks to async trade you genuinely finish the league faster and go do something else until a new league. im fairly certain that this trend will continue because leagues are just shorter now in trade.
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>>550441973
The "Poe2 is a dad gamer game"?
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Time to discuss why I am not a big fan of this Path of Exile 2 league despite having fun with the Druid, then into a pod with Lexd! Totally not going to tilt anyone, right? RIGHT??!?!??!
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>>550441895
well they did remove freeze from a lot of bosses and gutted temp chains for a good reason in poe1
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>>550442149
Wait, is Tri actually disliking the league? I've heard cutedog saying that he hates the game but I just assumed it was ironic
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Any stormweaver bros know if the infusion mod is any good? Or should I just take lightning?
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>>550441932
her?f
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>>550442305
CuteDog plays it up but he really doesn't enjoy poe2 at all
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>>550442393
I am aware
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>>550442332
infusions are shit, that lightning damage roll on the other hand is very nice
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game is dying so fast the general is moving like molasses
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>>550443024
Everyone's in-game, sis
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>>550443040
yeah except the game they are in is not path of exile 2
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>>550443040
lmao
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>>550443024
this is the doomgod general and its only kept afloat by doom posting. much like d4, nobody actually plays poe2 here and most people are already done with keepers.
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Do you think Atziri lactates?
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>>550441684
Act 1 is good because it plays like PoE. Yes, a gimped, slower version of poe 1 act one, bit still an ARPG. Act 2 onward is just Tub of Exile with shit stains all over, including the vision incarnate desert map table.
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>"wow what a fun weapon i'll make a werewolf minion build"
>take the "allows a scepter while shapeshifted" node
>everything looks perfect on paper

>using any spell force weapon swaps you, making the whole fucking build not function since can't cast anything without despawning your entire army

i'm just going to uninstall this shit ain't it
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Why did they make Ultimatum so shit for getting your Ascend points?
>Getting 2 Ascend points? 39+, free
>Getting 4? FUCKING 60 and requires you to slog through 7 rounds steadily increasing your risk of bricking the run
>Getting 6? Haha, MOTHERFUCKING 75+, tier 11 endgame maps to get something that Sekhema gives you pre-maps
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>>550443445
haha yeah
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>>550443024
PoE1's decade long toxic positivity is what got us here.
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you're pathetic
you're a loser
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>>550444180
Jonathan when he talke to his reflection in the mirror.
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DEAD
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rings dont have affix tiers ? Just slap regular exalts on them?
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how do you get more support gem slots on basic attacks like maul?
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>>550444319
Jonathan actually surpassed R07 in hackery. What an achievement.
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>>550443445
sadd
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>>550440895
MY ARPG IS TOO TERRIBLE FOR YOU TRAVELER
YOU SHOULD GO PLAY A BETTER ARPG
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When does lvl 5 support gems start to drop? Need them for an alt
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>>550445002
interlewds, sis
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>>550444563
Level up. I don't remember the exact levels but that is how.
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>>550442332
Next time, just check poe.ninja to see what people are using.
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Cast on Crit or Cast on Elemental Ailment?
My build crits and also relies on Shock+Freeze so it should be able to proc either but they don't seem much different
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>>550441631
>I feel like GGG has truly smoothbrains working because their iterations of popular archetypes look like significant downgrades in comparison to those from other games.
Jonathon is a midwit. If only he were a smoothbrain.
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>>550445609
Somewhat ridiculous advice in this scenario
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>>550441696
>the game has a higher playercount when it's free to play
>the game has a higher playercount when it's the weekend
>the game has a higher playercount during the FREE WEEKEND
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How do we fix the toxic infestation of D4 players that are currently shitting up the subreddit, general and forums?
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>>550445963
nobody bothered with free weekend lil gup
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>>550446073
Make a better game?
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>>550446073
>D4 players
I don't know if it's the restrictive instancing, but every time I play d4 it looks less active than I'd imagine
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>>550446073
take your meds
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there are more support gems that work with Drenched than there are ways to inflict it
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>>550446157
Do you have cross-play off? That'll cull the majority of players.
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>>550446295
See Witch/Sorc/Huntress/Ranger/Merc, walk up press pic related, Drench debuff is applied. Simple as.
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BIG
I
G
SHIT
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the director himself coded and designed league mechanic and it's shit ? how did this happen ?
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is poe2 vibe coded?
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>>550446505
wait did he really?
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maybe
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>>550446295
That's the biggest problem I have with the generator/spender shit. There aren't enough generators (or even spenders) per resource type to make it interesting.
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Anons you are paying for your carries right? You are giving a tip right?
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>GGG won't let me eat my own wolves because................ just because
Thanks, POE2. Lightning Arrow is fine though. Bonus points for
>wyvern is broken anyways
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>>550446563
zaccie admitted to vibe balancing so probably yes
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>>550446505
jonathan has a very skewed view as to what makes a good mechanic and good gameplay
just look at all the interviews he's in and you will see.
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>>550446654
If you're buying/selling carries in in-game chat you're gonna have a bad time
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>>550446654
yea i always pay my voidstone carryer
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Will the Atziri boss stay in the game permanently after the league ends?
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>>550446654
i beginning to feel like the anon that said paying entry fee is status symbol for jeets was right and all the jeet and jeetadjecent scum are playing poe2. landmines werent even that common in poe1 and apparently people scam all the time in poe2 even for the most irrelevant shit.
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>>550446815
Yes
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poo2 is a lost cause it's pretty clear
not even a week until it dies a horrible death.
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>>550446846
In what way?
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>>550446815
they should delete it just like they did it with kalandra. this league is an insult to og atziri.
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>>550446873
>losing over 10% per day
grim
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>>550446907
In pretty much every way, she's the boss of the mechanic which isn't going anywhere.
I actually don't think anything from the mechanic will be removed or nerfed. It's basically already in its post-nerf, implemented-into-core state.
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>>550446924
kalandra had no boss fight. this version of atziri is the retconned version of atziri and from this point forward she is the canon version.
sorry, but nu-ggg can't leave any references to poe1 untouched, they wanna removed that stain from their resumée
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>>550447045
how was she retconned?
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>>550446580
Yes, he talked about how nuIncursion is inspired by Loop Hero and it's the most work he's put into designing and coding a league mechanic in years. I want to feel bad for Jonathan, but it's difficult to when he's shit all over PoE just to put this trash "sequel" out.
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>>550447007
watch them nerf it regardless
poo2 is about to head down the trail of unnecessary nerfs to bring it back to its ruthless roots
>>550447091
atziri wasn't exactly a snake in poe1, was she? they kinda missed that fact teehee
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Something I wish PoE 2 "stole" from Diablo 4 is having a big open world between the acts. It's nice to actually move between biomes naturally. Kind of like how WoW is still one of the few MMOs that truly has no loading screens in the overworld besides moving to another continent.
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>>550443040
This except I'm playing CS2 again already.
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>can't use sigil of power without giving up pounce
nuh uh
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>>550443445
Talismans can't cast spells so you're automatically casting everything with your secondary weapon. It's stupid but it does help hybrid caster builds. And yes, it does mean that talisman minion builds of any type are exempt from hybrid casting. It is what it is.
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i do not understand the design philosophy here

1: "we have created a massive non linear passive skill tree with no clear directions or guides and we encourage you to experiment to your hearts content, figure out your own build, and customize your character"

2: "it will cost you all of your life savings to adjust half your skill nodes"

these two things seem so fucking at odds with each other. its no wonder people feel forced to look up guides when they have to take out a mortgage to tinker with a build
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>>550447395
do literally one map
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Playing shaman how it's supposed to be played and it's pretty gud

>Generating rage and glory with Fury of the Mountain, Eternal Rage and Ferocious Roar
>Spending it with Furious Slam, Walking Calamity and Apocalypse
>Pounce because of course
>Skill tree swap to all the spell damage stuff on fire staff and shapeshift stuff on talisman
>Volcano for extra DPS on bosses

Apocalypse and Walking Calamity clear is crazy safe, can just run around bosses.
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Any good minion build?
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cringe
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can I buy one sub for myself and one gifted to get portal?
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Is act 5 getting released with .5?
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I will forget EVERY FUCKING SEASON that you can only travel to a fresh instance of an act 4 island by ctrl clicking on the physical waypoint after you've already traveled to the island. not the zone transition, not the destination on the map interface...
And I will get mad every fucking time because niggers refuse to not join parties and then go off and clear maps solo
>just play solo retard
no, my adhd won't allow me to not immediately get distracted when playing solo
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>>550448041
who cares?
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apex of sacrifice/alluring abyss was the very first pinnacle content in poe1. and nuatziri is a downgrade from that, literally how?
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ngl it's a good thing that all the shitters are being filtered by the campaign
means the game will have a community of actual competent, intelligent people giving feedback throughout early access
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>>550448041
lol no
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>>550447663
Druid shaman for easy extra spirit, Thunderstorm with always shock when drenched support, exposure when shocking support, as many frost mages as you can afford with multi shot and pierce.
You just press thunderstorm and everything gets exposure, shock, extra freeze and your minions freeze everything
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Here's some feedback for you:
Fuck off with your lab shit. Make the game harder if you want, but let us ascend (for FREE)
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>>550448478
desperation is setting in for hopexissies
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It's ridiculous to expect GGG to not take a winter break after how hard they've worked on these two back to back bangers of leagues.
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>>550448635
May as well pick your ascension at character selection then
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I fucking hate crafting in this game. I feel like all I'm doing is just finding a decent piece, slamming some exalts and bricking everything with +7 mana and +115 stun threshold.
>broo just use omens and essences
By the time I can get those things that let me guarantee a decent piece, I won't need the fucking piece anymore.
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>>550448635
>give me a strong power up for free

d4 is that way. fuck off.
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>>550448774
i wonder if this year jonathan remembers about the mystery box xmas tradition or the tradition is gone with chris
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>difficulty +4 empowered bosses have 12 million life and deal 7000 damage per hit
so i guess i just turn the atlas points off?
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>>550446873
we'll see about that
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No other game has achieved this before, it's actually incredible... form the get go, the first loading screen is massive, can easily pump some strecthing to warm up, then every visit to town to sell the items, I get to do 15 push-ups and/or j-jacks. Sounds a lot for the first 10 minutes of the game sesh, right? That is the best part, it's like GGG knows i'm already sweaty, so they send in either a disconect or crash to encourage me to a shower and refresh!
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>>550449084
ALEXANDER SANNIKOV SENDS HIS REGARDS
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i'm done, cya in 4 months anons. druid is fun but the league mechanic is dogshit and endgame is the same
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>>550449608
NO! COME BACK! PATCH IS COMING SOON!
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>>550449608
Poo1 will have a league way sooner than that.
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Any good minion build?
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>>550449695
Poe1 is a dead meme
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JONATHAN DO SOMETHINGGGGGG
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>>550449784
Bogfell Infernal Legion with weapon swap.
Or most any specter build.
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>>550448620
Rolling. Thanks, anon.
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>>550449995
Side effect of trooning out.
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>>550448871
Free boxes are 100% never coming back
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>>550449995
why do you have xim added on your steam?
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>>550449995
I play uma too but you know you're too far gone once you fucking install it on steam instead just your phone
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>>550449995
Fate of the Vaal league will never recover from that loss. It is actually over.
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You guys play games on your phones?
I have a pixel 9 and I can't even play emulators on it without it feeling weird
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>>550450209
this would mean that jonathan is the one that always pushed for more aggressive monetization huh
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>>550450431
Uma plays itself, so that helps.
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>>550450431
Foldables are okay for gaming
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>>550449995
PoExUmamusume would save PoE 2. Travel Wraeclast finding peasant girls, feed them, train them, beat them, then set them to race each other in Sarn.
If that isn't a winning league mechanic then there is no appeasing PoE 2 players.
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yo anons league is dead so i was thinking about trying something new. i remember that someone shilled aion2 here before and i went to look for its general and its already gone, what happened to that game for it to die so fast lmao
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Here's my suggestions
>remove delve, bestiary, harbingers, harvest
>remove kingsmarch and tree
>remove pantheon
>remove influences
>add foulborn as rare versions of regular unique drops
>add more uniques and supports for under developed archetypes (traps, mines, totems and brands)
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>>550450735
jonathan would be proud
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>>550450735
>poe1
Lmao
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It's going to be funny when traps are never added to poe2 because they couldn't figure out a way to enshittify them without looking like complete retards
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>>550450907
and traps are pretty shit to play even as is. reminder that pohx is a trap player that successfully rebranded to being known for rf despite still playing traps.
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>>550450907
Trap cluster is already on the tree lil gup
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>>550450881
PoE2 is going EoS and if it doesn't we'll just PoE1ify it. You cannot stop us, we are too autistic
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Out of 25 posts on the front page only 8 aren't complaints, including the stickies
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>>550450907
you lack imagination
>3 seconds cast time
>only placeable directly where you're standing, no trap throwing
>6 seconds arming time
>limit of 1 trap placed at a time
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Locked. And. DOWNVOTED.
Use the megathread.
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>>550451140
Cast time? They've already shown that it's going to be a weapon type
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>>550451153
No negativity in the dojo
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>>550451153
free game no bit-ACK!
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>>550451073
the new captcha?
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>>550450907
Traps have weight and you can only throw them X distance relative to your strength stat. There's a X% increased strength applies to throw distance stat but here's the kicker all the gems are dex
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>>550451348
Killed by async
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>>550451140
>we really want to lean in to the fantasy of placing a trap and goading the enemy into it, you will use the new ability "bait" to place a juicy steak on the ground behind the trap (1.5 second cast time, needs endurance charge), this will taunt the closest rare or unique mob to walk towards it
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>>550451387
I don't get it
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>>550451383
>str stackers can fling traps an infinite distance
add a support gem for trap damage to scale based on how far away you are when they detonate and we'll have kino
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>>550449995
Not even in the depths of corruption did the Vaal crave horse pussy...
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>We want to make a campaign that is so good people are going to want to replay it
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does Elder Madox still reset after every level up? Asking before I bother with it
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To balance bows you should really need to buy arrows that run out. Instead of buffing melee we should just make bows worse
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>>550451996
Why not both?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTS3FrJUUKE
zizaran is not happy
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>>550452051
...to no one's surprise
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>>550451996
Actually true, and the arrows take up 2x4 space in the inventory, placing a looting pressure that will equalize to compelling and methodical approaches to mapping
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stinky poo two
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This seems cool
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>>550452297
i wonder why there is nothing for monk or mercenary of similar fashion
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A spider ascend and each ascend notable lets you equip a new pair of boots
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Where the FUCK is shadow???
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>>550452051
>currently is it definitely one of my least favorite league mechanics that i have ever seen
he fucking hates it lmoa
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>>550452051
him getting up and walking away after his temple explodes made me laugh for real though.
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is ruetoos crossbow build good?
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are there any actual dex stackers in poe1 to play? don't really feel like doing int stack for the 500th time for this claw when it's the same ol shit
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>>550452491
look behind you
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>>550452491
stop noticing
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I'm only in Act 1 but temple is easily one of the best mechanics they've ever done. I just made a SICK weapon for free and I am just fucking BLASTING through areas
Maybe you people need to..i don't know, go outside? Do something else in your life than complaining all day. It's not a good look.
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>>550452527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_VZMY6qRg
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>HECKING LOVE THE CHUNGUS BOSS FIGHTS IN ACT 1, ESPECIALLY 10 MINUTE GEONOR
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>>550452491
Johnathan needs to add shadow so NO ONE can play assassin
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>>550452709
>poe slave goy's strongest counter argument to campaign slog is to RMT a Chinese man to pilot your account
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hello

whats the s+++ shitter tier starter?
fubguns pf seems not only overpriced but it also needs la?
wyvern seems cool but slow, dull and probably repetitive
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>>550452819
Everyone is playing grenades dummy, it's ez mode
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>>550452709
>diablo 4 is fun for 3 days
about those retention charts...
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>>550452819
Vaal Arc and you use Vaal Caress to level
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Essence or Wisps?
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>>550452937
i dislike grenade delayed playstyle though
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>>550452978
are steadier than PoE 2?
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so wait, shade walker still disables regen? this shit makes zero sense as a rare mod. degens that disable regen make sense on a major boss attack like on sirus, because avoiding the puddles is a part of the boss fight. having degens that disable regen as a rare mod is completely fucking retarded because you'll fight 6 of these niggers at the same time and you'll have no reasonable way to tell what the fuck is killing you. i'm convinced these fags at GGG have never tried playing their game.
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>>550453058
>actual numbers cropped out
lol
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>>550452709
Based problem solver
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>>550453081
retention is percentage, this is not a gotcha.
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>>550453081
You can literally see them on the graph retard, still a better retention metric.
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>>550453078
Mark played the game for one league and we got automated trading and a bunch of other qol out of it
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It is funny that till settlers every poe league increased its base, then there was a year+ of nothing while poe2 has essentially negative growth. It must make GGG anxious
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>>550453174
it might be the abandonment of their first game they have shown to the playerbase, but one can only guess
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>>550452051
Theres no rewards and because builds are so busted everyone kills Atziri so fast nobody gets to see her actual abilities.
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>>550453219
Jeez it's almost like that's how sequels work and poe1faggots should get the fuck over it
Maybe they're not used to getting sequels in their third world shitholes kek
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who designed this bloody bhenchod of a first act boss
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>>550453305
Geonor is really easy?
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So uh endgame is literally the same why
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>>550453285
does this look like a working sequel to you?
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>>550453375
Too busy filling the tub to work on the game.
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>>550453418
I see a filtration system working exactly as it should :)
Sorry it was too hard/high tech for you to run, Ranjesh
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>>550453353
what is sad is that it turned real easy the moment i switched from a 2 supported skill to basic attack (because it deals 30% more damage)
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>>550453418
>1 year later
>still butthurt
hehehe
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>>550453459
>i-its better that less people play it, ranjeet
lol okay NIGGER
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>>550453459
So let me get this straight
>game 1 grows until game 2 shits the bed
>it's a good thing game 2 is losing players league over league?
what's the end goal here
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can anyone explain basic attack being better than high velocity to me? i don't understand this, i thought they changed that?
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>going smith of katava bear
>I'll try out this oil barrage skill
>I'm completely invested into melee
>level 11 Oil barrage deletes Viper with no support gems
Wtf is this shit
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>>550448821
getting strong power is already free
what anon meant is
>stop wasting people's time with some mundane shitty designed crap, which Trials ARE
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>>550453459
>a 71.6% loss of players is a good filtration system
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>>550453418
predictable as fuck.
people came for the 3 acts, and they came again for act 4.
they'll come for 1.0 as it's the official release with f2p and at least act 6.
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>>550453745
it's a pretty straight downward line, with only 1 out of 4 patches being outside that trend line (downwards, not upwards)
>this is a good thing
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Has a 1.0 release of an early access game ever had a player recovery to the original launch numbers?
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>>550453682
its OP
its get eve nmore OP
just with wyvern was a bit faster to move around
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>>550453786
it's their cope, let them cope
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>>550453786
yes
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>>550453676
LOL
LMAO EVEN
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>>550453884
Well?
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>>550454035
poe2 in three years
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>>550454110
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>>550454110
>three
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Xbow bros how are we doing? Nobody is playing our build so stuff SHOULD be relatively cheap right
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>>550454035
satisfactory
hades 1, 2
dead cells
the long dark
PUBG
etc
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Tell me what I should play this league
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>>550454276
the UN IN STALLER LMAOOOOO
go pf bow
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when are they fixing the load times so I can actually play the new update
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>>550454035
last epoch
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>>550453785
it's a paid beta, of course 0.1 being by far the largest release drew the most attention.
1.0 will probably beat 0.1 numbers just because it'll be f2p though, and they're likely to do a lot more marketing for it.
i wonder when they'll pull the trigger on 1.0, i think it'll be act 5 in april, they might do both acts at once and go for a splashy 1.0 though or push it back to december.
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1.0 will still be ultra hyped and bring everyone back and then some.
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poe2 1.0 is going to dominate gaming press for MONTHS
goty accolades, awards, top ten of the DECADE
you people have no idea what's coming
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>>550454606
lmao
1.0 will be a buggy mess
with too many currency items, zero descriptions, 80% of league mechanics dead
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well /poeg/, is she right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8xYse-1BI
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>say sorc spells suck ass and do no damage
>everyone just tells me I don't know how to play
>alright let's look up some sorc spell builds
>12 step skill rotation to do half the damage one wyvern breath does
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>melty because no more poo1 december leagues
kek
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poopy two 1.0 will be flushed
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>>550454661
>goty
awards are useless, these hacks named fucking expedition 33 this year.
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>>550454704
Kronii is my wife and she hated Diablo 4
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>>550454718
spark was so good in 0.1 they will never allow sorc to be good ever again.
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>struggle with geonor
>switch to default attack
>he easy now
hmm, so using skills is just bait in this game?
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>>550454718
>skill issue
my comet infernalist is one shotting bosses.
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>>550453229
its so funny how uber atziri was unclearable for majority of players for years and then there is this wet fart in poe2
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>>550454820
ENKIS ARC WITCH
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>>550454768
Your lying wife Kronii told my wife Kiara she'd play Diablo with her again and then went to ducking her for YEARS
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>>550454768
she never said that, fake news
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all they have to do is to cook actually engaging league mechanic AND challenges for people to stay for a month, possible, but unlikely
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tfw atziri will never sit on my face
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i have a feeling they're going to mid-league nerf lunar blessing and make werewolf unplayable dogshit.
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>>550454878
dramaaaaa
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any chase uniques?
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>>550454891
see >>550454878
She abandon the stream series and never finished the game
SHE HATES IT
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>>550454829
Only for melee
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Who is the top contender for KWABOTY award by /poeg/?
Jonathan,Bald Fucking Retard or other poe personality?
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>>550454909
They would be ripped apart if they did challenges while it was still pay 2 play
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poo2... bad.
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>>550455052
Funny how baldo was just a leech and it took Jon almost 20 years to figure out
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>>550455052
poe1 players
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>>550454524
>and they're likely to do a lot more marketing for it.
I don't know how much they spent on .1 marketing but I would be surprised if they could afford to do more marketing. I was hyped for it but it was shilled to no end.
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Any good non-infusionshit/plantshit caster builds?
I dont mind pressing 5 buttons
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>>550455153
i don't think they spent much if anything at all on 0.1
it was really meant for poe1 players to beta test, by their own words they didn't expect that many people to buy-in.
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how does project d2 verify cd keys? can they steal it?
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>>550455203
>I dont mind pressing 5 buttons
jesus
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>>550455203
You are scaring poe 1 players.
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>>550455203
New Sorc ascendancy is basically that. It might scale with minions, but you're essentially using spells.
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>>550454718
That's the vision though?
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Stop making fun of the battered poe1 players
They need love and understanding in this transitionary period
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>>550455248
lmao you must be joking
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reminder that WE the buyers and players are the beta testers
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>>550455592
Anon they even paid the neighbourhood cat to call it the greatest game of all time
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>>550441151
But Balbala said I am no longer a jingakh
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>>550455250
why would they verify cd keys? and yes when you install software on your pc you're basically giving them the keys to everything on your pc, they can do much worse than steal your cd key.
>>550455592
0.1 was the result of 6 years of hype. i'm sure there was some marketing involved but it was mostly word of mouth, anger at blizzard and diablo 4, and years of hype culminating.
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>>550448816
>By the time I can get those things that let me guarantee a decent piece, I won't need the fucking piece anymore.
I second this. In ssf it's terrible. I dropped many exceptional pieces last league but 0 for my build. All my currency just rotting in my permanent stash
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Haha hey you PoE 1 guys know we're just busting your balls right?
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>>550455646
>reminder that WE the buyers and players are the beta testers
PoE open beta had a lot of dev feedback and interaction. It was reasonably common to have GGG employees in chat interacting.
I know they are a much bigger company now but it is rare for them to get involved all that much even on forums. I think I've seen Mark engage with a few mechanic inquiries off hand.
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>>550455678
>why would they verify cd keys? and yes when you install software on your pc you're basically giving them the keys to everything on your pc, they can do much worse than steal your cd key.
>You must own legitimate copies of Diablo II and Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, purchased from Blizzard, in order to play Project Diablo II. Using cracked CD-Keys will result in a permanent ban.
so they verify them somehow
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Doesn't PD2 and nuMXL just md5 check the exact newest update files that you can only get from owning it legit
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>>550455714
nobody takes it serious ramesh we all know that during prime na hours its poe 2 sucks thread and when americans go to bed it becomes prime poe 1 eos hours.
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>>550455678
>i'm sure there was some marketing involved
it was at least close to an 8 figure sum
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Incursion can be saved as a mechanic if the devs want
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>>550455842
verifying the cd key is trivial, but it's certainly unusual for community projects to ban piracy.
there's a cdkey generator that you can use. they have absolutely no way to tell whether your key is legit or not.
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>>550455250
they don't you can play just fine on a pirated copy
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>>550456164
Both the biggest d2 mods are extremely autistic about only legit copies being able to play them
95% of that is ensuring full compatibility and very little bugs though
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>>550456164
i have a legit copy, it just seemed strange to me so i wanted to ask if they can actually steal and do something with my keys. or are they safe regardless if they are registered on a bnet account?
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>>550456271
the main reason why you can easilly crack cd keys for diablo 2 is because the setup verifies the keys. the moment you expose the verification to the user, you allow people to crack it.
these days the cdkey verification happens directly on the server to avoid this.
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>>550456391
do you trust the project or not? it's really that simple. because if you install their software, they can do whatever they want on your pc.
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>>550456459
dont be a fag and buy a game
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>>550456590
probably? all the poe streamers play pd2 so they are not malicious maybe. still it doesnt hurt to ask
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>>550443024
>>550443148
I dont feel like contributing 200 posts a thread anymore. Both games are getting worse.
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you know that shit is genuinely fucked if even redditors begin graphposting only a few days into the league
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>>550456706
there's two ways that you can ensure trust, the first is that there's a monetary incentive, is the project well financed ?
the second is liability, let's take turtle wow, if tomorrow the creator (russian) pushes a malware update, there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>550456925
It's funny to watch the mods break down in real time as they can't contain the doomposting fast enough and just give up.
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>>550456925
>Jeets have melties on Reddit [lmfao]
>GAME IS DOOMED OMG !!!!!11
kek you faggots are cooked
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I would never RMT for divines since that takes the fun out of chasing upgrades and mapping harder juiced content, but if I could pay a shady chinaman twenty bucks to have 10,000,000 gold I'd probably do it in a heartbeat, holy fuck the gold costs for respec and the increased price of asynch trade are fucking PURE ASS to play with.

Is Jonathan's Vision (TM) literally me running around picking up dogshit untiered rares so I can hand them to doryani for identification before immediately selling them to him? Regals are worthless, even if you were going to use a regal on something to craft they added tiered currency and you'd never use a regular regal on a good base, so disenchanting them for regal shards is even more pointless.....but I never feel like I have enough gold and 50k to change an ascendancy node is retarded, I'm just going to keep Witchbane and No Mercy 24/7 since the idea of swapping between Zealous Inquisition and back to boss makes me have an aneurysm just thinking about the 300k gold it would cost every time I wanted to kill arbiter
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bros...they are going to ruin traps too right
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>bear's been alright but clunky so I felt like rerolling
>halfway through act 2 and I already don't want to play anymore
Remember when they said that if people don't want to play through the campaign again it means they've failed?
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>>550457147
>Is Jonathan's Vision (TM) literally me running around picking up dogshit untiered rares so I can hand them to doryani for identification before immediately selling them to him?
Well yes but also no.
There are a lot of things that are worthwhile just by existing, you just need to learn how to identify them and filter the rest out. Takes experience and time and gained knowledge.
Play more builds and you'll have a greater breadth of understanding what people are always going to be looking for.
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>>550457195
Yes, don't worry. They will be on cooldown and they'll be dropped at the player's feet so mobs will have to actively walk on them.
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>>550457239
Playing since 2013 and I have never been able to do the campaign more than once per league
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Im having fun with grenade titan :)
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>>550457195
Bear Trap + Claymore aiming. Maybe nets with PoE 2 Bestiary.
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>>550457195
Jonatroon will ruin everything. EVERYTHING.
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reddit is dooming hard i wonder if they will say something today
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aste has been cooking again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYpiav3YJk
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Wait, sorry. I was too quick to answer and my answer was too optimistic. Traps of course won't be dropped. There'll be a bespoke unscalable animation of you carefully placing the trap.
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>>550457195
>bros...they are going to ruin traps too right
they are almost assuredly going to be tagged as Hazards and result in pure unfiltered garbage gameplay the same way caltrops and spearfield are.
oh and enjoy every single trap having EIGHTY PERCENT LESS DAMAGE like Spearfield does if it's triggered too soon after being deployed since otherwise it might compromise the Vision(TM) of meaningful combat if you didn't spend several seconds doing setup for every white mob pack
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>>550457239
I foresee this being the next big thing they capitulate on. It was tedious, but tolerable in 1, but 2 is just such an obese cunt of an experience and it's not even done yet. There's gonna be even more of this tedious shit.
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>>550457617
You will spend 15 seconds of animation digging a punji. You will lure Silverfist into it. You will come here and type kino. You will later come here and write this is bullshit because you're tired of having 15 second light stunnable animations that make temper weapon look like an insta cast.
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I generate rage and then.......I DON'T SPEND IT hahahah fuck you johntubful
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>>550457195
And mines
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Disagree. I'm 33, married, work full-time and still get around 5 hours/day. Much more on weekends. Love the direction they're taking this game and hoping they won't cave for the tiny Poe1 crying fanbase. They can play Poe1
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>>550455049
same for crossbows
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what does your steam replay look like
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>>550457752
2 has literally no content outside the campaign, they CAN'T back down on this because the campaign is the game
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>>550457996
based dad gamer. who looks after your wifes kids while you're locked in?
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>>550452709
>the campaign is so bad that casuals rmt for campaign carries
i really wish jonathan could see this screenshot
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>>550458123
Poo2 didn't even make it onto it.
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>>550457856
>15 second light stunnable animations that make temper weapon look like an insta cast.
I'd just like to remind everyone that GGG literally pushed that shit to live servers without a single person at any point of the production pipeline stopping to say "Hey guys, come on, this is clearly a joke right?"

The temple being such a dogshit state makes a lot more sense when you remember this is the studio that shipped temper weapon in its original state
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>>550458330
Jon talking about how he made the temple and it being the most dogshit mechanic they've put out in a long time is so fucking funny. The guy is a walking comedy act.
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>>550450907
>You need two power charges to throw and arm them
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>>550458123
Even here big shit 2 had a massive drop off
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>>550458401
The temple being great in act 1 where it's an early 3-link and a single (1) free exalt making you feel worth it but being dogshit in endgame where the rewards don't scale at all because jonathan admits he only plays the campaign and just restarts a new character when he gets to maps is straight up something out of a parody. I can't believe campaign man actually made an entire league mechanic that only rewards you during campaign
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>>550458165
Friendly reminder PoE 2 dads leave the house to play the game.
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>>550458567
lmao
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>>550458535
It really boggles the mind. Does he expect people to play the campaign over and ever, multiple times per league, 3 times a year? Nobody plays 3 full runs of Skyrim in a year, not dark souls, not the Witcher, not whatever other "replayable" RPGs everyone knows and loves. Why does he think his game is different?
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are they ever going to remove checkpoint teleporting? this shit being in the game is a disgrace. its a clumsy bandaid fix for bad zone design and unenjoyable movement.
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>>550458567
if this isnt some kind of ntr script then i dont know what is
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>>550458670
jonathan hears you, and he'll be adding more checkpoints next patch.
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>>550458657
I think it might actually be an autistic thing. jon seems like an absolute sperg and I've seen guys like that do shit like replay the same game non-stop i.e speed running, etc..
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dousing charms sell for 5ex minimum lol, GGG completely fucked up ignite scaling and made all the player buffs apply to enemies so now it hits 10x harder than bleed and poison do
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>>550458123
Hah, looks like it doesn't count hidden games
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>>550458480
what does that july bar mean?
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>>550458670
shrinking zones sounds like a very trivial thing to do so if they didnt do it until now then they wont do it ever
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>>550458813
>it doesn't count hidden games
damn i really wanted to know how much time i played badik.
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>>550452752
fuck that looks fun but I've never even seen the currency that corrupts grafts this league in ssf kek
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>>550458714
Nah, woman is just so ashamed of her gaming addicted husband that she wants to be alone and cry at her self inflicted misery, i've been around women, they do this a lot to themselves
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>>550458742
You laugh but from the forums Jonathan is already on it.
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>>550458827
it's the cursor highlight, the screenshot didn't capture the cursor but the highlight is still there
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>>550458754
Makes sense why ignite felt like it was fucking hurting a lot more
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The doom in the steamchart thread is fucking delicious
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>>550458950
Oh my god that's horrifying, what if there was a juiced rare right where you were standing and it one shot you, sending you all the way back to that northern checkpoint. He better put down a third one just in case something like that happened.
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Out of all the weapons they could possibly add I would be most excited about axes desu, because I want to play warrior and maces are boring as shit.
Given their release schedule it would need to come with marauder though and since that's the least exciting for trailers it'll probably come at 0.9 in 3 years.
I'd be ok with shadow and traps.
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>>550459212
>muy steam chart
brother i've been playing poe back when it wouldn't even hit 5k players, i'll be fine.
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>>550457560
holy shit /poeg/ doomers are getting mogged. the graph post got +200 posts since i first mentioned it. i didnt actually think that the league was that irredemably bad
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>>550459212
is this a new record in earliness for people posting the retention chart
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>>550441726
>What went wrong?
D4 released a new class and normies play that shit.
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>>550452297
It's not just "cool", it's one of the strongest single passive nodes in the entire game.
Bonuses from the socketables in the equipped focus don't get halved btw.
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>>550459212
>Players coming off of keepers are going to especially feel it
>Yep, having being spoiled by the tree (I got a stack of 20c, a 2div foulborn unique and a 6 link during campaign) compared to tiresome and unrewardting mechanic of Vaal is like dropped from heaven down to earth.
>haha should we start a support group for people like us dealing with tree addiction?
Sometimes I forget just how different Reddit is from this place.
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>>550459328
turns out playing a league every 2 months kills retention, who woulda thought.
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Reminder the last time there was this much doom
>The entire community team publicly quit and gave up
>GGG lied about getting death threats
>Chris found a random artist in the studio, told the community all the negativity was making her sad, and got her to do an AMA
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>>550459383
>Bonuses from the socketables in the equipped focus don't get halved btw.
This doesn't sound reasonable
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Why is it that no matter how hard they try PoE's visual style just looks like a bad ripoff of Diablo?
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>>550459406
what are you talking about
thats a pretty common experience with keepers compared to poe2
wheres the difference
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THIS IS NOT A DRILL
FATE OF THE VAAL HAS OFFICIALLY DIPPED BELOW DAWN OF THE HUNT PLAYER NUMBERS
JONATHAN FUCKING DO SOMETHING!!!
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>>550459502
By day 3 or 4 this place was endlessly shitting on the tree, not singing its praises.
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>>550459528
yea it's trash bro, we know
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>>550459490
poe1 visual style is(was?) good, the issue is with poe2 and its painfully obvious when things get made by poe2 artist even in poe1 like the foulborn currencies. i wonder if whoever worked on poe1 assets is even with ggg still, probably not because they reused old assets for high level bases?
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steamchart posting has got to be the lowest form of posting
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>>550459560
bro you got tricked by indian shitposters...
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>I personally killed Path of Exile and bankrupted GGG
Based
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People are still buying my stuff in Keepers hell yeah
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Holy shit season 4 has a fucking steep drop off in players compared to the previous 3 seasons. Absolute flop
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>>550459528
These charts are lethal. When they were posted around when 3.27 was teetering close to lows, the next week the league crashed to the bottom (with no survivors).
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>>550459654
shitty league mechanic
no new content
still terrible endgame
i'd say i'm surprised, but i'm not.
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>>550459573
but we should all be reminded that it is
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>>550459642
no kidding, i wanted to give my buddy some shit and can you imagine my surprise that said shit actually sold instead. i was convinced that nobody will buy it because it was rather overpriced and pretty meh cws shield.
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>>550459560
its very strong in early progression. im not sure thats a good thing because its so strong that you just skip that part of the game. but obviously the average casual will love getting free TRI RES BOOTS so he can finally do his voidstones instead of quitting at yellow maps. that person also doesnt care about the tree being mediocre later on and he doesnt play enough to get breach wall fatigue and breach defense fatigue.
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I recounted
Out of 25 posts on the front page only 7 are positive, including the two stickies
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>>550459613
>poe1 visual style is(was?) good
I am willing to accept it is nostalgia but I still like how PoE 1 looks. All the "my graphic update" cheering for PoE 2 didn't hold water for me personally.
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>>550459613
new breach rings look weird as fuck
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>>550459809
there's not that much to be positive about. league mechanic is trash and we didn't get an endgame rework that was promised. druid is alright, that's about it.
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The ARPG genre name is deceptive and indescriptive. Hell, even RPG as a genre name is misleading in a lot of cases, or at least used inflationary.

I went through this with @nagisanzeninzz before and he received a ton of ridicule from others for the "PoE2 = Dark Souls" assertion. Let's end this debate once and for all because it's getting annoying:

Soulslike games have high difficulty and punishing deaths. You are not able to overcome enemies and bosses unless you use clear knowledge of their movesets and abilities. Until you master these encounters, death is frequent and setbacks happen until you learn from your mistakes.

Combat is slow and methodical, and always stamina-based. Other resources like health or mana / energy are limited and only reset upon reaching a checkpoint, or naturally through further progression (see Elden Ring and the way how flasks recharge through defeating an entire group of enemies in the overworld).

That means resource-management is mandatory and just mashing buttons leads to defeat.

Soulslikes also put heavy emphasis on exploration and world design, with many secrets and pathways being hidden away. You find none of these elements in PoE.

Even if you only focus on the combat aspects of Dark Souls and other games from the Soulslike genre, the only overlap you can find and point to is the dodge roll, and that one wasn't even invented by Dark Souls. It's a ridiculous statement that can only be made if you make the shallowest of observations while ignoring all the other elements of the game.
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>>550446843
jeets don't have pcs that can run poe2
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I mapped on multiple characters in 0.1

I finished the campaign and immediately quit in 0.2

I quit mid-act 2 in 0.3

I quit after 15 minutes of playing 0.4

I don't think I'll be logging in next patch. Unless the mechanic is Blight.
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>>550457195
Did people forget when they talked about how you had to manually place mines/traps on the ground, like there was a 5sec+ animation of you crouching down, fiddling with the mine/trap on the ground and standing back up.
They were redesigned to be something you setup before a boss and lure them into, not something you can spam like in PoE 1.
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>>550460000
>I quit after 15 minutes of playing 0.4
that says more about you than poe2.
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>>550460000
They know what's up
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>>550459383
I'm having a hard time building around it, the raw ES from Discipline and the mana/int is nice but the downside means I'm stuck with only one non-minion aura (eg the cost of eternal rage becomes too oppressive ). any tips?
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>>550460097
fuck I thought it was the talisman/scepter notable
anyway, question stands
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>>550460097
You're thinking of a completely different thing
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I swear people said that 0.4 was supposed to focus on endgame, but there's nothing other than this new temple mechanic.

Did I just imagine that?
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>>550460000
0.3 was literally the best league until they massively nerfed juicing and drops mid league
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>>550459406
The only real issue with the tree is it's a bit too in your face with pulling a slot machine lever
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>>550460170
>0.4 was supposed to focus on endgame
they said during the reveal stream they delayed the endgame rework to 0.5.
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>>550460170
GGG said this, they lied and delayed it.
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So instead of rebuilding a whole temple imagine if there was a big circular area in the middle. Maybe like a big courtyard.
When you got rooms you added them to the outside of the courtyard. The bigger the room, the more monster quantity. The more rooms you put that buffed said monsters on their garrison rooms, the more quality/rarity. Rooms could be added to the garrison rooms to add specific buff/challenges, and you could even have a room overlooking the courtyard that had a boss who jumped in at some point.
So instead of running through a near empty temple we instead stood in a circle and had monsters run at us.
I know this is reinventing the wheel but I think it would've worked.
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theyre actually going to add a campaign skip, arent they?
the complaints keep getting louder and louder
the player numbers keep getting smaller and smaller
adding a campaign skip would be the ultimate admission that jonathan losted and poe2 failed
its only vision pillar shattered
jonathan should just retire at that point, it would be too fucking embarassign
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>>550460193
my only problem about abyss was the dogshit performance
0.4 really hit the park with their optimizations, i got like +30% fps.
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>>550458813
>>550460215
I was curious about the time bar chart dumazzes
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>>550460293
>>550460296
>delayed
What a shame. Guess I'm done this league.
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>>550459969
Any poorfag can get geforce now and play anything they want
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hopebros can we blame asynch for this one?
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>>550460406
You only get 100 hours a month, really not worth it for the poe time commitment
I think the others like Boosteroid have unlimited though
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Can crossbow skills be used to detonate spear skills?
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>>550459817
>nostalgia
i disagree. poe1 style was/is very distinct and it was more stylized. poe2 style is trying to be way more realistic and this in turn makes things look very boring and samey.
its kind of like d2 and d3 but in the opposite direction. d2 was stylized but still "dark" looking much like poe1 and then d3 went all in on cartoonish stylized aesthetics. i think that both poe1 and d2 hit that sweet spot in large part probably because of graphics limitations and new guys are either unwilling and cant really replicate it.
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>>550460320
there would be the issue of getting swarmed by monsters like in simulacrum which filters most builds, i dont think the enemies coming to you works gameplay wise and its weird thematically
the idea of rooms merging is good gameplay wise, like you only run through a few rooms that have a ton of enemies in them, but again its weird thematically, at least with the way tiles are designed currently
jonathan tubbed himself into a corner
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>>550460484
Always
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I still can't over Jonathan hyping this mechanic up like it was his magnum opus just for it to the worst thing ever. I enjoyed LoK more than this.
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campaign skip makes no sense and never has
how would it work, you start doing maps at lvl1? all game to lvl90+? infinitely more boring than any campaign
or what, create a new char and you get lvl65 instantly with all the campaign bonuses unlocked? and gear for free? fucking bullshit, never gonna happen
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>>550460215
>almost 2026
>warframe
Has even more of an identity crisis and development hell than POE2
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Everyone is just stacking ES again as their defensive layer for Druid arent they
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2 is something special, but people glaze it too much.

Honestly, 1.0 needs a lot of work on the campaign. They need to smooth that out and highlight the story some more otherwise they’re going to lose players.
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>>550460598
Holy shit, I butchered this post. I'm ashamed and going to bed.
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>>550460642
Warframe survives primarily on Rebecca whoring herself out nonstop
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>>550460320
The dad gamers that they are destroying the game for can't handle monster quantity. Even 5 running at them is too much
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>>550460373
here you go
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Post your PoB (PoE1, the real game).
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i upvote all doomer threads
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>>550460812
nt, stalker schizo
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>>550460636
you dont get gear and xp, you just skip the story stuff. no talking to npcs, no walking around, no picking up skill points and stat boosts. either actual maps or some kind of free roam where you go through campaign zones with increased density and kill the monsters in them with no strings attached. honestly sounds a lot better than the poe2 campaign
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Bring Chris Wilson Back!

No other reason then, I miss him. He was a good director. (Nothing wrong with the one we have now, although looks like he always has makeup on.) I just want Chris back. He talked and interacted with the player base. Responded to peoples emails, everything.
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>>550460652
ES for everyone, got 2 frens playing sorc and witch, both at 15k+ in SSF already, shits so busted and never nerfed
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remember pre-release when the shills were saying that no-swords was a lie and the game was definitely going to have swords?
and now like 1.5 years later and still no swords....
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This patch was sabotaged by poo1 leagues.
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>>550460516
Yes
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>>550460950
Keepers of The Flop > Fate of The Flop.
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>>550461069
well the vaal civilization was destined to flop
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>make armor actually strong against hits, especially small hits
>no degen protection so armor characters still die instantly when they step on an abyss degen which also disabled your recovery for some fucking reason (you know, the thing that life characters have and es characters dont have in combat)
impressively retarded
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>>550460652
barkskin is the worst piece of shit in the game. they could buff the numbers by 3x and it would still be a piece of shit. i don't believe the numbers on it were designed by a human with any understanding of the game.
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>>550460685
it's ok anon we know what you wanted to say
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>>550460694
>checks /wfg/
>there's a webm of rebecca showing her tits on the very first replies
You weren't kidding lmao
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>>550460812
https://pobb.in/y3ALrBrK_yzm
Sure. I'm about to get to level 98, but I really have no idea if I'm strong enough to do anything past t17s, nor do i want to spend the kind of currency it takes to even try the uber bosses at risk of dying and wasting the money.
Was sorta glancing over Ignite as a possible change, but builds I saw seemed to do entirely different things to get it going.
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How can they fix the league mechanic?
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>>550460598
beyond + rampage in kalandra was awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWs1krykQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWs1krykQ8
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>>550461260
they unironically cant do that without a major redesign. if somebody like ziz starts raging and walks away from his pc in rage then you know that shit is beyond fucked for most people.
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>>550460501
>100 hours a month
I doubt they gonna spend all of it on poe 2
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>>550461260
make rewards more copious, have every room drop small amounts of league currency that can buy new stuff from a shop, add super apex tier loot that works like hinekora's for some of the specific new orbs.
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>>550461321
God I wish they hadn't gutted rampage items. It's such a fun mechanic, especially if your build's scaling works on the rampage procs
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>>550461260
Why cant they just put stash inside the instance, like jesus. Whats the point of this huge ass thing if you cant store it anywhere. If you exist the instance now it immediately ends the run GG
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>>550460636
Copy Bloodborne. No one knows about it, but Bloodborne has a mapping system you can access from start of the game and start running your own randomised content, but it is depth gated in difficulty where depth 2 and onwards are like NG++++ etc

They are 'Chalice Dungeons' that require special materials to open your first one, which are unlocked during the campaign. Once you have made a dungeon type, you can join other dungeons and make more infinitely.

Souls players shat on it at the time because the idea of doing 'maze content' was abhorrent to that playerbase but It if copied properly would be PERFECT for PoE2. Basically give people access to maps straight away but you need to kill Devourer to get some ingredient to open your first one etc. You also can only see maps that are Act1 tilesets so you're not spoiling.

Then basically, in maps you have a mechanic where if you can play well you can fight Geonor in the maps section and effectively end Act 1.

This however means all those 'optional bosses' that have the clearly non optional resistance/stat upgrades etc need to be changed so those don't exist and instead those bosses drop uniques or something similar to an endgame boss loot pool.

The fact that GGG included all these so called 'side content' that aren't side content and you have to play each time is retarded. The Ice Witch bitch in the start of Act 1 is a great example. She should just have a unique pool with some ice dagger and some ice staff or something and if you don't want that shit, you can skip. EZ act speedup.
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Complete poverty mode, but it lets me farm juiced t15s.
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>>550461625
so much loot you cant take it back in one invnetory? ok we will reduce drops within the temple
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>>550461227
>https://pobb.in/y3ALrBrK_yzm
>Grey Wind Divine Smite
>afraid of uber bosses
you have almost 6m EHP you should be more than fine.
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>>550461406
its not rocket science
if the mechanic takes you out of the map, it needs to drop at least as much loot as a good map
shoving a ton of rares into it and making them drop items would be a good start. you wouldnt even mind aimlessly wandering the temple or needing to complete some rooms because it would be worth it to just kill monsters in the temple.
make roads more generous (always connect on all sides)
add a tooltip that shows which rooms a room interacts with
change room completion to killing ~70% of the rares in the room and make sure they dont get stuck in the corner
wa la
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>>550461784
temple design itself is unfun, not just drops.
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>>550461639
>The fact that GGG included all these so called 'side content' that aren't side content and you have to play each time is retarded
jonathan had this vision that players would casually stumble across these things and end up finding something new on every campaign playthrough. it was part of his plan to make the campaign engaging on repeat playthroughs.
yeah. hes retarded. nothing else to say
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>>550461648
>eHP: 17,002

this game is not fair that's way more than I got on my titan
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>>550461965
>playing woodful's class
You did this to yourself
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Is it 405% per bolt?
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>>550461742
block isnt that useful against bosses, especially glad lucky block thats only strong after already blocking a hit. its not bad but its not 6 million health
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Is anyone else getting giga-lag when hitting enemies? Not sure if only with plant skills or anything at all. Frame rate drops by like 60% and the sound gets all fucked up.
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poo2 legit feels worse to play every patch
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>>550462063
then gladiator would be unusable at uber-tier.
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>>550461260
Add Vaal Currency Drops every time you run the map with each room having their own unique currency drop,

alongside a loot drop per room be like 2-5 items each room yes just buff the fuck out of the rooms its literally the same as running a map its that long

be able to replace rooms with other rooms you shouldnt be stuck with a regal fucking room by maps im in campaign and even i know thats retarded

all rooms with tier upgrades should upgrade the tier of currency of the room aka tier 3 exalted room should should drop greater exalted 1 at most something like that

have a note next to rooms before placed as to what they buff and where it is best to place them to buff other rooms

allow a clear path to the archetect cba to spell it

ask if you want your rooms deleted like that ziz clip dont just do it

allow a way to spam archetect for the special rooms and allow them to stay if you want to fight atziri in some way without it being exploited

thats my take and im in the fucking interludes for the fucking campaign how the fuck does GGG not know any of this???

>>550460923
>>550461176
i was going to go leech with wolf druid but i think whats the fucking points its shit compared to ES stacking as well
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>>550462110
0.3.0 was the peak for me.
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calling it now
screenshot this etc
the endgame rework will be delayed AGAIN because poe2 players are crying about the campaign being too long
0.5 will be the campaign rework patch
also 3.28 delayed until june
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Until game is out of EA they should abandon the concept of leagues and just do expansions instead.
Focus on standard and have leagues for the freaks.
Focus on campaign acts and pass endgame content as expansions. That way casuals (the majority of poe2 playerbase) can just log in and experience the new content.
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rip lil gup
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>>550462073
if you dont kill enemies in one hit then you better play a giga tank that doesnt mind low fps
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>>550462120
its not unusable but its far from ultra retard mode just hold down right click tier like an int stack trickster that also has suppression and overleech, both of which are extremely good for ubers
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tfw singular reddit doom thread is faster than /poeg/
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i enjoyed the breakfast burritos i just ate more than i ever enjoyed playing poe2
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>>550462332
where clip
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>>550462442
I'm not 100% on how exactly the front page of reddit works but surely at least a few of them since launch must have slipped onto there
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>>550462585
not even close lol
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>nameless turd giving me essentia sanguis in SSF
so what's the best use of this? werewolf amazon seems like a a decent option
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>>550462343
I'm playing a plant Disciple of Varashta so I kill enemies almost immediately but in 1000 small hits.
Also this lag wasn't there yesterday
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>>550462468
They'll resemble PoE2 a lot more once the come out the other end
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>>550462643
>>nameless turd giving me essentia sanguis in SSF
>so what's the best use of this? werewolf amazon seems like a a decent option
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>>550462748
i knew the reply faggot was going to give me a (You). just a hunch i had
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>>550462290
yeah they should've been focused on patching in the missing content before messing around with fomo league shit
but ggg don't listen to common sense. they'll keep doing the league shit and pretending POE2 is a complete game like POE1 so they just waste time adding gimmicks instead of laying foundation.
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>>550462509
>>550462332
just timestamp no clip
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2645985835?t=05h23m10s
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>>550462879
if there was no league i wouldn't be playing. solidifying the foundations isn't what brings players back.
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>>550462332
you'd have to be a legit retard to play poe2 in HC
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>>550462930
Brain on autopilot always gets you in the end
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>>550462819
farmed that freak
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important BEAR DRUID update
i have acquired headhunter and defiance of destiny and 800 dps +5 skill weapon
the game is my bitch except for desecrated ground (Shade Walker mod on abyss mobs)
all of my niggas hate shade walker. fuck shade walker. that shit is gay as fuck. literally 1 tick and niggas dead even if they ran out of it and spammed they heal potion. jawn better fix it on god.
failed the new captcha 7 times despite my doctorate degree. its just not intuitive. much like POE2.
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first of all they should have fucking used proper wording, OPEN FUCKING BETA. not this dogshit early access meme where idiots are expecting a full game but earlier than other people.
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>>550462994
I would come back for new acts. It's what I have been doing in fact. I haven't logged in for 0.4. Why should I, so I can play the same game again but with one more gimmick?
Also doing it for TQ2 and I am enjoying that game as well
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>>550461742
Decided since I had 98 I'd give it a try. I bought 5 Traumatic Fragments since they're cheap as shit and fought Incarnation of Fear. No deaths, i can't just stand in front of the big fiery murder laser but that felt like a given.
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>>550462930
>>550463078
thats what 12k ES does to a nigga, thanks Mark
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>>550463112
>Frog
>Retard
Classic
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>>550463169
>Why should I, so I can play the same game again but with one more gimmick?
leagues and a fresh economy have been the lifeblood of arps for decades. diablo 4 does the same.
new acts will bring new players. new leagues will bring old players back.
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>>550462930
ignites are retarded, even with 12k ES he just instantly died lol. They legit hit 20x harder than bleed or poison now
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i just don' thave fun playing poe2
i know i know.. but i just don't
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>>550463168
open betas don't have a pricetag
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>>550462930
dude just stood there and ate it
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>>550463298
The poe1 leagues with the better numbers are the ones where they add new bosses and weapons, aka expansions
Gay low effort gimmicky leagues will always be trash, even more so when the game isn't done and you are still in the process of acquiring the playerbase
Mind you this is probably their strat for poe2. Even releases will be low effort, odd releases will be actual content
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>>550463391
literally me
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>>550463461
meant to write closed beta, should have been obvious
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The fact that videogame companies literally invent devices that print money and then for the next time out the gate they try to reinvent the wheel just baffles me.

They could have made every single mechanic exactly the same as POE1 with updated graphics, the current POE2 class lineup and skill tree, and a few QOL upgrades. Instead we got whatever the hell amalgamation this is between having the skeleton of possible the best ARPG ever made wearing a Dark Souls flesh-suit over the top of it. People don't want to slow-ass dodge roll through the game getting one-tapped by regular mobs, they want to zoom and boom.
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>>550462290
they wont do that
i think this is not a secret for anyone that we never was in EA
It is release game and those patches are just that - post-release patches
and they treat it like that
the ONLY reason why they are doing that is to sell MTX assigned to each individual leagues
so they wont abandon concept of the leagues because that means abandoing comfortable MTX money milking once a few months
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I ate a bunch of yogurt today and now I've been shitting farting all night. My room stinks.
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>>550440895
>release a terrible patch with SLOG league mechanic and no substantial changes
>players leave in droves because nobody wants to play this trash
>fuck off on holiday until mid january when league is already dead
big stink GGG, big stink TOO (2)
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>>550463391
Reminder to all the poe1 babies that this "horrible retention curve" is about what poe1 had been like forever and still has a higher peak than poe1 ever has.
Your game is still getting eos'd, and poe2 struggling is just going to make it happen faster.
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>>550463727
k
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>>550463707
>I ate a bunch of yogurt today and now I've been shitting farting all night. My room stinks.
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>>550463727
>still has a higher peak than poe1 ever has.
no it isn't
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>>550463826
I look like this
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>>550461227
>support gems that can be are all awakened
>except multistrike
fix it.
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>>550463727
funny you say that when poe1 is steadily growing despite a year long hiatus and poe2 is actively declining.
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>>550463608
It's not a closed beta, a closed beta is invite only and usually very limited runtime
It would be an open beta if they weren't selling access for cash
What is is is a cashgrab trying to make money off hype from impulsefags before the game goes F2P. Most games simply go buy to play for a couple of years before becoming F2P but Jonathan is so sure that his game is hot shit he thinks he can sell it while outright telling everyone that it's going to be F2P "soon". Sorry, sell "early access" I mean, if it was a real product then people would be allowed to complain that it sucks
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WHERE'S THE "WE ARE SORRY" VIDEOO????????
HELLOO?????
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>>550464030
It's going to be a "Message to Path of Exile 1 Players"
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>>550463912
you got the 200d for me to do that? i make almost no d/h lmao I getl ike 2-3 hundred yellow lifeforce on a good run of a map.
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>>550464016
>https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Closed_Beta_supporter_pack
cute little newfren
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>>550464030
You're going to get a minimum effort patch that fixes nothing on Monday along with an announcement of "planned changes" for 0.5. Then they're off to 3 month holidays
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>Elemental Storm
>Has the orb tag not the storm tag
what
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3nY-lthJc
NEW SUPPORTER PACK JUST DROPPED
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Let you bank it up so you can ignore it completely or a while and then go and build temples in bulk targeting rewards that are unique to the temple.
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>>550464140
Remind me how many leagues did PoE1 closed beta have? How many classes? How long did it run for? At least that was a real beta
No, a normal closed beta to a F2P game doesn't sell access. "GGG has done it before" doesn't make it appropriate
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>>550464107
>2-3 hundred yellow lifeforce on a good run of a map
I don't even know how to respond to this, what kind of setup do you use? are you using 8mods?
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>>550464107
stop begging and learn how to play the game you disgusting retard
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>>550464103
>When we started, we believed we could handle 2 games
>turns out jonathan is retarded and completely out of touch with reality, oops
>so we're sunsetting poo 1, and continuing to develop poo 2 at a snail's pace anyway
>no refunds
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>>550464487
Hey I'm getting stuff done, i just hate to put a bunch of money into a chance to get more out than i put in. If I dropped a Doubling Scarab and got one of those runs where the plants are so shitty they pretty much don't drop any lifeforce at all, then I'm just out money. I can't save up for 2 3P Voices and an Awakened Multistrike by LOSING money.
>>550464420
I take rare t16 maps and i use no scarabs, no chisels, etc. I just play the ones I like like Strand, Atoll, Villa, etc. My Atlas is currently set up for Settlers stuff to try and get Starfall Craters (currently 0/4 on any decent drops) and Harvest (not Crop Rotation).
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>basically we're just gonna add a crocodile skin for the coolest and most fun class and let the scalies carry until 1.0
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>>550464739
its not a chance to get more out than you put in, its always profitable
scarabs are priced around the fact that it takes you time to run them, basically every useful uncommon scarab has the price that you would expect to get 10-20d/hr farming with it
stop being retarded and listen when people tell you how to play the game
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>>550464497
>and continuing to develop poo 2 at a snail's pace anyway
I find it funny that a lot of poo2ers don't realize this is what would happen even if they eos'd poo1
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Is there a point to using a rare sceptre (like the crit weakness one) instead of using a focus on a regular caster. Are focus mods just too powerful compared to the extra spirit + aura?
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>>550463826
this bitch needs to go to the gym
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>>550464850
He's literally retarded anon, don't bother. He thinks that using a 1c scarab is a huge cost that he might not break even on, let alone a 60c scarab like Doubling
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>>550463824
Have we gotten an apology patch every league so far?
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>>550464850
>it's always profitable
I just feel like the act of spending on it doesn't feel good, and then I'm hyper aware of if the runs are going well. I did a test the other night with 10 doubling, 10 cornucopia, 2 kalguur scarabs, and a monstrous lineage or whatever the more magic monsters one is, and i spent about 1000c and got about 1900c out of it. But that's after straight up selling everything that came of it, so I didn't even feel like i profited all that much for what I put in. I don't know, i dislike investing in a slot machine.
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Do you guys think Jonathan is hanging from the rafters yet?
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>diablo 4 season raped poe 2 update on the same day
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>>550465406
He's counting the 60,000 he just made from mystery boxes
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>>550464850
>its not a chance to get more out than you put in, its always profitable
im going to give swordbro one here. farming harvest currently is actually dogshit and its a gamble to break even. yellow juice is crazy expensive, scarabs are crazy expensive and blue/red juice are crazy worthless. if you dont get a really big yellow juice drops then you probably are losing money.
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>>550463826
I mean, I kinda get why these sluts are so vapid. Imagine how intoxicating it must be to be this hot.
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>>550460947
Remember how the first tier of supporter pack was Geonor's sword skin? kek
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>>550465272
its not a slot machine, i just explained it to you
slot machines in a casino lose you money on average
using scarabs gains you currency on average
just listen to what smart players tell you to do the same way you let them tell you what items to equip
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>>550465609
I am breaking even on blue and purple juice alone right now and saving my yellow juice because it is a better long term value storage than raw divines
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>strongest druid build is wyvern default attack
the absolute state of tubathon
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>>550465465
nobody plays that so nobody knew or cares, maybe try the blizzdrone general
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>>550463365
yea
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>>550465609
then you just farm something else, theres no way 2-3 div/hr is a real number on a character with mageblood
although im pretty sure hes doing something fundamentally retarded because theres no way you only get a few hundred liceforce per map without doubling
probably running scoured maps or something
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>>550465465
>GGG try and clown on Diablio Immortal during Exilecon
>D:I makes over 1 billion in a year

Jonathan deserves to fail.
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>>550465848
jonathan, everyone hates your game and nobody is playing it.
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>>550465745
>I am breaking even on blue and purple juice alone right now
this is literally not possible unless prices changed. how much is juice to divine and scarabs right now? even just poorfag doubling+cornucopia was around a divine of upfront cost before i quit and blue/red juice was 10k+ to a divine.
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>>550465465
i would unironically rather play d4 than poe2 in its current state
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Cuck here. Should I return to this game?
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>>550465041
women do not belong in the gym
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>>550465874
yeah i only commented on harvest because lifeforce prices were genuinely bizarre this league. like 2k yellow for a div and then in worst case it was like 15k red? to a divine. this is not normal, i have never seen juice prices this fucked before.
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>>550466072
You should spam graphs all day like a good little brown golem.
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>>550466072
No, there genuinely are so many other better things you can do with your time.
Let it cook a while longer and see what happens
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>>550466072
fakecuck detected
truecucks never leave in the first place
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>>550466004
Cornucopia + doubling + risk is 130c (0.7d)
I pull ~ 2-3000 of each color per map. At current prices (7k blue/div, 12k purple/div) 2.5k blue and purple are 0.6d
If I get at least 0.1d random drops in the map I have broken even without even counting my yellow juice. With 250% quality and 60% pack size after tree modifiers and altars, I get way more than 0.1d from random drops
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The cameramen are laughing
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>>550466558
>a couple thousand hours now
Do these niggas have jobs? Or are they just leaving it AFK to flex their steam /played?
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>>550465646
>>550465609
Decided to show the map I was about to do, the tree i use, and the outcome. I actually got pretty lucky here that 3/5 of the harvests had yellow nodes, the other two had only blues.
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RELEASE DUELIST NOW
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>>550466635
get a real job where you work from home and you too will have a lot of playtime :)
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>>550466440
then prices improved quite a bit, still not very good if your goal is fast currency imo.
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>>550466072
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is the new fire bear unique actually good or is it just expensive because it's new and looks cool
i got one randomly from simulacrum and wondering if i make a bear or sell it
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>>550466161
theres a meta build that requires a ton of yellow juice, you need to reforge phys for explode chest on herald stacker which costs like... 30k juice per succesful elevated chest, maybe even more. but yeah theres a ton of players quitting the league and gambling their shit while there are not many left to farm scarabs or harvest
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>>550466161
everyone abandoned keepers early because it was a shit league mechanic and ggg doubled down on the worst part of it
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>>550466817
There are no "good" farming strategies this league, you take what you can get (and stomach)
Harvest is simple, fast, has decent chance for jackpot drops with all that quant you're stacking, and is easy to price and liquidate
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>>550452778
None of the fights in act one are too hard, especially since they don't tend to oneshot you.
It was honestly whiplash when I first went from act one to two and the second boss had a one shot attack.
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>>550465112
they're stealing my thing. wtf. how am gonna earn my (You)s now?
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>>550466714
>no quality on map
>52% quant
>no scarabs
>20% monster pack size
>that ridiculous atlas tree
what the fuck????
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>>550467105
Anon, chisels cost 0.5c have mercy on his wallet
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>>550466714
use 8mod corrupted maps
click all the explicit effect nodes on the atlas and the nodes for your eldritch altar of choice
click the quant nodes in the middle
these give you way more quant in the map which means more lifeforce
also click the nodes to reduce the chance of red and blue lifeforce if you really want to use 0 scarabs
drop the random trash nodes like kingsmarch, scarabs and blocking mechanics, youre not doing a scarab farm
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>>550467049
The rule of thumb is to always do the opposite of what reddit is doing
Anyways you should have always been a poe2chad from the start since it's easily one of the best games of the decade and will be the blueprint for all arpgs for the next several generations
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>>550467105
You wouldn't understand a tripfag's complex machinations.
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>>550461441
can someone explain how this happened? preferably using a haiku
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>>550467254
it has to be really depressing for whoever is tasked with gathering feedback from this thread. literal pity hopeposting.
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>>550466714
I finally see why you beg for divines.
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they broke pob2
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>>550467359
Fast progress, too fast
Done with goals in a weekend
Async trade did this
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>>550467565
gog trvke
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>>550467565
anon that picture was about poe2, not poe1
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>>550461441
>>550467359
the tub overflow
potent aromas engulf
the exile alone
I'm not very good at this.
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Async and Faustus ruined POE2, they simply need to be removed.
>generates an AI thumbnail and fats around retardedly
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the thing I hate the most about poe2 is how it's not even out yet and already suffers from the same issues poe1 does
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>>550467359
campaign more tiresome
season after season
next league the new worst
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I played for like 20 hours then I got sick of rolling so I quit
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>>550461441
Clearly the lesson from this is new female class = player retention, it's time to make Duelist a cute girl.
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>>550467664
Poo two now easy
Now has poo one retention
Really makes me think
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>>550467821
this is pretty good
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>>550467759
did you expect GGG to learn from their mistakes?
the only thing that surprises me is that after Chris left the decisions they're making are MORE retarded. I didn't expect Chris to be dragging the average competence level up, rather than down.
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>>550467614
When is jonathan going to leave and mark take over?
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>>550466714
Unironically speechless.
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>>550467359
tedious campaign
rare monster hunting game maps
diablo wonned
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>>550467359
same campaign again
same small endgame again too
getting so sleepy
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Does killing last rare monster no longer give you a way stone
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>>550467916
this needs to happen but they also need to find someone to take over poe1
frogmode looks like hes aged a decade in the last year from effectively managing both games
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>>550461441
Troonathan must be stopped
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rollslopping being an active part of your global defence instead of a gimmicky you do to avoid an instant puzzle is the worst innovation ever in arpgs
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>top thread in reddit is a doomchart
lmao what's the difference in discourse between us again?
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I'm downloading D4. Looking at build videos, it seems like a more enjoyable game at this point. I can't take moving at a snail's pace any longer.
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>>550468196
instakill puzzle*
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>>550467105
I use the maps i get, or whatever comes out of alching a map i like going to
>>550467162
this, what if i run out using them on maps like that?
>>550467207
>use 8mod corrupted maps
How do those even come into existence?
>click all the explicit effect nodes on the atlas and the nodes for your eldritch altar of choice
Oh, i had just taken off my Searing Exarch stuff, I guess I can put it back on
>also click the nodes to reduce the chance of red and blue lifeforce if you really want to use 0 scarabs
Okay, sensible
>drop the random trash nodes like kingsmarch, scarabs and blocking mechanics, youre not doing a scarab farm
Is getting Scarabs bad? I figure any drop chance is a plus. Also if I'm doing Exarch + Harvest, that leaves a lot of points, doesn't it? Gimme a minute to get some Orbs of Unmaking and see what I can do.
>>550467510
>>550467978
I do like free stuff.
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Yea I've stopped supporting the company financially for a long time now. I just found myself asking myself one question entirely way too much. "How did this go live?" As much as people bash on Rue and Jung for being negative, they're right... The simple fact of the matter is that they don't test a majority of anything that they release.

We as a community pay them to be quality control, and honestly I've just been done with it for several years now.
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>0.2 releases
>Reddit is up in arms
>Dire player count drop
>Shills come out preaching that Last Epoch is so much better, everyone should play that
>Everyone quickly realizes that Last Epoch actually sucks and PoE is still miles ahead of its competition
0.4 and Diablo 4. History repeats.
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>>550468196
I pretty much never dodge roll except to clip through mobs.
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What I don't understand is how this even made it into the game. Did nobody test it? It's so obvious how bad it is. Jonathan said he doesn't play endgame and that's fine but they surely have other testers, right? It only takes an hour of mapping to realize how bad it is.

It's not even about the mechanic itself, which actually seem fine except for some missing QoL features and lack of explanation, but the complete lack of rewards in the endgame. If I'm in maps and you are giving me a regal orb workbench something is very wrong.
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>>550468414
they dont even think in terms "will it be fun?" only "is it too OP?"
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>>550468456
i would easily pick playing le over poe2 right now
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i'm only in it for the exiled again videos at this point
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>>550468683
doubt it, LE is poop
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>>550468634
>surely have other testers, right?
What? No. GGG has 240 artists, 2 project managers, 3 programmers and no QA
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300 tub cleaners and jon
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>>550468371
you can buy 8 mod corrupted via trade search. search for beach map, corrupted, tier 16, and 100 min quant. collapse listing by account and hideout hop till you find a vendor selling a bunch. look for people selling at 1c more than min market price. have a regex ready to filter out bad mods. buy in bulk. in general it's not worth it to run non corrupted 8 mod maps.
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>>550468816
me and my vtuber slave squad
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>>550467904
>he only thing that surprises me is that after Chris left the decisions they're making are MORE retarded
you might be the most retarded anon in this thread
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>>550468371
8 mod maps are farmed with a specific scarab (cartography scarab of corruption)
im going to spoonfeed you because something teach a man to fish

heres what you do
on another atlas tree, click all the nodes for
>exarch
>chance for maps to drop 1 tier higher (it makes you drop more maps, trust the science)
>explicit effect
>quant
>shrines
this leaves you with some points, use them however you want, kingsmarch and bismuth chance is good but doesnt really matter
>singular focus (important)
this is your map farm atlas
choose a map that you like best, jungle valley is common because the exarch altars cant be things related to the boss so you have a higher chance to get quant on the altar
favor that map in all your favored slots
use these scarabs
>1x cartography escalation
>1x cartography corruption
>3x cartography multitude
and just go into a map and kill the monsters. this will drop a ton of 8 mod maps which drop way more loot. use these 8 mod maps for the map farm too, you will get more maps that way.
you will have to buy a few scarabs but they are dirt cheap
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>>550467916
not soon enough im afraid brother
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>>550460636
In d2 you would join public lobbies and farm Tristan until lvl 18 or something and then just speed run to andariel. In act 2 you'd speed run to tombs lvl to 28 and then speed run all the way to arreat

It's funny they think d2 had this really long seasonal campaign when everyone got to lvl 85 in 4 to 5 hrs. I suspect d2 would never have made it as far as it did because all the bots functioned as campaign skips
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>>550466714
>this is the kind of player that gets mirror drops
it's so joever
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>>550468198
/poeg/ did it since day one
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>>550468816
what was Krafton thinking?
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>>550469075
what
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how do u single target with spears in act 1
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>>550469212
try autoattack
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>>550469212
Your basic attack bro?
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don't be fooled by the "Druid" hype or the "bad" league mechanic (bad retention).

it's a trend, and the problem is the base game and core design choices which are still the same. Overdesigned skills and tedium.
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>>550469075
he just started playing cut him some slack
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is there a d2/pd2 build that can sustain on its own without ever slurping potions? im going to download it right now if there is one
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>>550469212
the stacking whirlwind thing into popping it is fine iirc
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>>550461260
The game has no rewards because nothing is worth doing. Fix the itemizatiom system, the crafting system, unique design, and make a mechanic that interact with those systems in interesting ways
That's how poe1 did it. People would have been trying to craft onto temple mod rare right now. But we don't have that. And we don't have a reasonable way to craft. And we don't have an itemization system that lends itself to a good trade economy
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>>550469212
this isnt poe1
attack skills are bloat
we DEFAULT ATTACK in this game
yeee booyyyyy
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>>550469238
>>550469256
throw or melee?
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>>550469206
he got a mirror from mappers
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More than any of the gameplay?

I wasnt incentivized to spend money, which is actually bad for GGG.

The league is Fate of the Vaal, featuring Atziri, and lots of Vaal characters... and neither the supporter packs or mystery boxes capitalized.

Why is there not Atziri cosplay? More blood magic or vaal skill skins? Doryani cosplay?

GGG not being able to monetize and capilize here is actually bad for their bottom line, and the lack of things to buy here is a real bummer.

I would have bought supporter content, but it feels like theres barely anything here.
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>>550469212
parry, disengage, explosive spear
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>>550469212
throw down an explosive spear -> spin into the mobs (spin applies blind) -> leave the spinny dirt -> explosive spear explodes and the spinny dirt explodes.
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does anyone actually play the game
whats the status of double corrupt and foulborn benches (or rather their respective orbs)
before release some people were hyping these up but it seems like 99.9% of players start skipping the mechanic or quit the league entirely before they ever see one of those
any poggers chase uniques? are we pogging out rn?
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>>550469417
PleaseThinkAboutTheBillionDollarCompany.basedjack
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>>550469381
melee is faster but depends on what boss you're facing obviously, the situation, if you're playing hc, if you don't know his moves etc
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>>550465112
i wouldnt be surprised if its the graph posting faggot in here thats posted it on reddit
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burned out on day 5 already
>looks at charts
seems I'm not alone in this one

time to wait another 4+ months for jonny to shit out a new league
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>>550469557
>the graph posting faggot
we're dozens
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DOG SHIT 2
WORST LEAGUE OF ALL TIME
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don't underestimate the legion of doomposters
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>>550469614
really fucking hype for poe 1;s abyss two league where they just paint the fucking breach shit green. whoops didnt have enough time to continue the multi league story we said we were gonna do a year ago. again
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>>550469480
what do you fucking think, dumbass
everyone quit the league already
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poeg invented chartposting
fubcel brought it to the masses
reddit are repeating it
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PoE1 removed exp penalty on bosses but how about 2? About to try Arbiter and wonder if I should lvl up first
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>>550469707
>hop in the map
>kill all the abyss monsters
>get fat loot
would unironically be a good league just like it was in poe2
throw in some new crafting toys, maybe some interaction with other league mechanics like in poe2 and its kino
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alkaizer status?
quin69 status?
zaccie status?
zz ran status?
ruetoo status?
mathil status?
steelmage status?
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>>550461441
>Yawn of the Hunt beating Fate of the Vaal
holy shit doomsissies won...
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>>550469902
raped
raped
raped
gay
won
GAY
gay
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>basic attack is the best way to play the game early
lmao what a piece of shit game
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>>550469902
>alkaizer status?
meltying nonstop, verbatim said he would have quit by now if he wasnt a streamer, most likely had a falling out with zacchie
>quin69 status?
still in campaign
>zaccie status?
in hiding
>zz ran status?
dooming and playing softcore with his friends because the league is so bad
>ruetoo status?
raping innocent women and dooming
>mathil status?
only one that seems to be having fun
>steelmage status?
see zz ran status
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>>550469058
>d2 public lobbies
fake, d2 was singleplayer, the internet wasn't a thing back then for the pirated version i was playing anyway
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>>550469480
I never got to maps
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>>550469298
Hammerdin with redemption aura
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>>550469895
dont you fucking do it neon. dont you fucking do it
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>>550469480
that's actually the funniest part
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is this game dead?
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>>550470079
>mathil
>only one that seems to be having fun
breach 2 somehow one of his favourite leagues of all time like he fell down a case of stairs
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>>550469289
Exactly. Poor retention is often a trailing indicator. Meaning people were upset by some bullshit last league, but were able to get over it because something else made up for it (namely the infusion rework archon crap was made up for by blood mage being as opposed as it was) now that that's gone and people are pivoting into other things to find fun they are finding out that: ranged is again superior, spells suck ass, and druid is a piece of shit.

The league mechanic is the least of this games worries
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>>550469480
you don't double or even single corrupt before endgame and most players haven't even built rarity yet. that being said i'm doubtful anyone will ever care, poe2 always had a no endgame content problem but it's 10x worse this league with map instilling gone.
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>>550468982
>buy
I-I don't know about all that, anon
>>550469020
>Exarch
Okay got it
>Chance to maps to drop 1 tier higher
Got 'em
>Explicit Effect
Okie
>Quant
Okay I think I got them all
>Singular Focus
Got it, gonna set the map to something I like, but also why can't it be something related to the boss on Jungle Valley? I was thinking Strand, Beach, or Villa personally. Is there a specific benefit to using the same map in every favored slot or is that just to make sure i don't mess up and get the wrong map?
>Shrines
Okay, explain this to me like I'm retarded, why? Aren't those just the stupid rocks with the middling buffs on them except for like the one that makes you fast and the one that makes you invulnerable?
>Buy Scarabs
I'm trusting you that they're cheap, I'll get a couple and see how it feels. I also have 14 points left on my Atlas after removing everything except what you suggested.
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>>550470301
Drop the harvest node in the middle, the three quant nodes aren't worth it.
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>>550470094
You were a filthy casual then
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Genshin won
Honkai Star Rail won
Europa Universalis 5 won
Ruecels won
Hopesissies lost
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>>550470283
can't kill arbiter lil gup?
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>>550470301
Big suggestion: get rid of harvest in the middle and take Essence instead. It's passive gain for either crafting or income and you have the points to get almost all of the nodes.
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>mediumcore
what the shit is this?
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>>550470554
wdym everyone can kill arbiter you get unlimited attempts.
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>>550470550
truth (no v)
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>>550470624
apparently you cant because you cant get your rarity up lil gupertino
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>>550470550
>Honkai Star Rail won
no they didn't, extended shitty 3.8 patch and 4.0 Japan content being redone
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>>550470141
does it work in pd2 too or only unmodded
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>>550470571
some shit ziz made up so he doesnt have to play hc
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>>550470714
the Japan planet was doomed to fail just like Inazuma failed.
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>>550470571
loser talk desperate for approval despite being not good enough to warrant it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQxe4AupLew

i got poe2 years ago expecting this when it came out last year
a year later and 90% of the game is still missing
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE WEAPONS
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Surely they're going to buff everything before they go on Holiday
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T R V K E
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>>550468816
>kimchi eaters payed 90 something million dollars for this
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>>550470079
quin finished the campaign last night
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>>550470440
Okay here we go. 7 points left because i can't reach the last essence thing.
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>>550470941
Counterpoint:
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>>550471103
what's there to test anyways? It takes 65 levels to get access to every skill
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Can you bookmark searches in the in game trade window
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>>550470893
>and no exile will stop me
did they cut the entire opening sequence from the game? i dont remember anybody ever referring to the player character as exile in poe2
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>>550470941
100% true that removing towers ruined endgame, it's dead boring now
towers gave it a bit of spice, not much, but it was something at least...
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>>550471098
You're a gay retard. Drop Explicits by Quality since you're too much of a fag to chisel your maps.
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>>550470249
it makes perfect sense
theres hundreds of new-ish uniques to play around with and he never cared about farming currency in endgame
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>>550468634
in the tri nterview Jonathan said they were working on making the vaal temple endgame compatible, and this was on the week before release, so I don't think they finished it on time given its current state.

I think there should have been an update to the room rewards once you get to lvl 75 architect but there doesn't seem to be any changes? I think they didn't finish it in time and we likely get a mid league update on the temple endgame
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>>550471103
Based as fuck, campaign is mapping with story these people are fucking retards
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>>550471232
Negative
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poo2 big shit clog the pipes
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>>550470301
shrines serve three purposes
they are surrounded by monsters which drop loot
some of them significantly speed you up which more than makes up for the extra split second it takes you to click them
the covetus shrine gives extra quant and rarity
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Campaign sucks because there are no special farming zones like countess in Diablo 2
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>>550471162
Campaignfag dadgamer doesn't have a build in mind, he's just picking up anything he finds and seeing where it takes him. He approaches the game like it's an atmospheric RPG rather than a grinding ARPG

Not pictured: tens of thousands of other campagnfags who have already "completed the game" and didn't return for 0.4. Because this attitude only works if you play the game once then revisit it out of nostalgia 4 years later, it doesn't work if you come back for every league
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>>550470301
>why can't it be something related to the boss on Jungle Valley?
its a weird mechanic, the boss somehow doesnt count as part of the map before it spawns in or something so the game doesnt spawn eldritch altars with a boss mod. instead its always a players gain mod and a minions gain mod on the altar as if you had already killed the boss. mausoleum is the same
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>>550470893
>Over half of the Act 4 bosses, Druid, Templar, and Shadow were in development and showcased in a video over two years ago
Bleak
Genuinely what the fuck has taken so long
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>>550471485
even poe1 had docks, aqueducts, dried lake, blood aqueducts or that area before innocence i forgot its name
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Arbiter is too hard. They can't lock content behind this.
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>>550471619
there is nothing weird about it, the boss just doesnt exist on the map before you get there.
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>>550471467
Understood, Captain!
>>550471256
Got it! I'm still able to take 10% more magic monsters on that too after getting all of the Essence things. Set all of my favored Maps to Strand and am gonna play a few maps to see if I can get some of it.
Here we go.
>>550471619
That's really cool, honestly.
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>>550441267
>Gather fuel by standing in oil ground. After 5 seconds, use the accumulated fuel to channel a powerful Righteous Fire.
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>>550441426
>Die if not at max endurance charges at the end of the duration
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>>550471275
The campaign is mostly waypointing around and mashing through long monologues actually. If it was actually just mapping with story it would be fine.
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>>550470571
campaign is so boring that they dont want to go through it again, instead they just delete gear when they die
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>>550471830
>cannot recover life and energy shield during skill duration
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>>550471830
you forgot that righteous fire lasts 5secons and gets extended by 1s for consuming each endurance charge
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>>550471485
Early Poe1 campaigning never gave you enough XP on the higher difficulties to run through each zone once, so you ended up having to farm certain zones.
I'd much rather just farm one zone per act of my choice and then do a single quest to complete the final boss. That would also solve the problem of league mechanics feeling like a waste of time during the campaign because overleveling doesn't mean you can skip zones.
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man the campaign is such a miserable experience
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>>550471830
>Can not gain fuel while active.
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>another boss kill stolen from me in act4

Does my guy actually get to do anything in the story
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Where are the cool/fun builds?
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>>550472285
>awful skill design
>boring passive tree
>miserable campaign
>no endgame
what does poe2 offer?
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>>550472362
no
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>>550472383
a hope to cling on for tourists and a good target to shit on on /poeg/
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>>550472375
no such thing, welcome to tub 2
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JONATROON
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>/v/ is making fun of us again
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>>550472383
>what does poe2 offer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4-Mf9OuCkw
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>>550472383
Very nice animations
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>hit every combo and dodge most shit at jamanra
>run out of mana and flasks at 25%
>slowly die
great game faggots
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>>550472540
They don't deserve poe2's ludo
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>>550471787
Update: Nearly got killed a couple times, but i had a lot of fun clearing that out. All of the Corrupted Strands I got are between 98-123% quantity on them.
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>>550472623
go back to plebbit faggot nobody wants you here
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>>550472623
stay in /poeg/
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>>550472383
A new generation of sycophant streamers that will shill gggs slop to gen a as zoomer and millennial burnouts are intentionally sunset for going against the vision
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due to work related reasons, I can only start poo 2 today.

no point in playing since we got the same shitty endgame right? wait for 0.5?
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crashed on arbiter and can't afford another attempt. gg guess the league is over for me
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>>550472716
Nah, reddit is just good for shitposting about edh or watching retards fight about if they can understand hypotheticals
>>550472770
I'm here to stay until i decide to play something else way too much lmao
>killing first essence monster
>explodes into 6l
60 fusings hell yeah
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>>550473090
Wait for 0.6 bro. It will have the new endgame and the 0.6!'/###
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>>550473090
if you have anything remotely better to do, skip
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why are the acts this dogshit?
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>>550472383
it has good graphics and audio design
could it have been a visual update for poe1 (formerly poe)? yeah lol
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>>550473245
They aren't. They are great actually.
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>>550473384
stick your big chungus souls bossfights up your ass woodful, they are so boring and badly designed
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I think I did all the side quests but some still show as uncompleted on my map, can anyone confirm if they are bugged or what?

Two of the vendors you find in the jungle zones in Act 3
The hideout in Act 4
Navali in Act 4
The Ferryman in one of the interludes
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So we're guaranteed to get a "What we're working on" post today, right? There's no way Jonatroon will let the game burn down before the holidays....
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>>550473458
Make a better build. Or maybe follow Fubgun's guide.
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>>550473458

there's way worse things than the bossfights to complain lmao
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>>550472762
I AM THE TUB
I AM THE POO AND THE ETURDAL
I... AM... TROONATHAN!
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>>550473245
The acts are both horrible and great.
Some parts are a miserable slog while others are very enjoyable.
Overall, I find them miles better than PoE1 where everything is just a barricade leading up to maps that you have to plow through as fast as possible.
But I do feel that the balancing of various spots in the acts is a major pain point.
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>0 changes in the patch notes that I'd care about
cya in 0.5 lel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWa4ZdQ1pgQ

so wyvern is OP
now is bear?
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>>550473458
geonor is better than every fight in poe1 except uber elder thoughbeit
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>>550473618
>>550473624
i am doing giga meta grenades and they just don't deal any damage SURELY it's my build and not the game being absolute unadulterated dogshit that spites its players on every turn possible
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wtf how did the mods allow the player graph post on reddit? did they just give up???
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Is rues build viable?

Not seeing a lot of xbow builds
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>>550473245
Pacing is fucked
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It's truly amazing that Jonathan managed to turn even the biggest shill into a doomGAWD
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When is we getting exilence ce2
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>>550473727
>AI shit on the video cover art
Lmao, not watching that.
Bear is fine.
Wolf is fine too once you start abusing the 1 mechanic that isn't undertuned.
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>>550473560
morale at the ggg office must be at rock bottom kek
they just had the worst leagues in poe1 and poe2 history back to back
poe2 looks doomed and their approach to developing both games clearly isnt working
they will probably release a half hearted what were working on post but i wouldnt be surprised if jonathan steps down soon, hes clearly very emotionally attached to the success of his game and gets upset if its criticised
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>>550473746
They're still deleting stuff here and there but yes they've basically given up
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>>550473972
retard
bear is so fucking op
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doomGODS we won
poo2 = big stink
it's over
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>poe2 looks doomed
Man, if millions of dollars for shitting out garbage is "doomed," I would be happy to ride that "sinking ship."
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Woooow so much choices

RMTers already made bank
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>>550473746
the subreddit ONLY has doom posts
it would be empty except for some "omg i found a divine / mirror / headhunter" posts if the mods enforced the no complaining rule
doomgawds won
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>everyone goign wolf or bear
good leave my wyvern alone its more op than both combined
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>they will shift all focus to poo 2 and leave poo 1 behind because this league is shit

It's over poo 1 bros
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>>550473984
The only thing Jonathan should step down from is the side of a bridge
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YOOO ITS UP BRO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ64WVuqWBw
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>>550474179
The funny part is all their focus is already on poo 2 with poo 1 having a skeleton crew,
AND it's STILL this bad
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just finished the campaign and made it to maps in hc
this game will be fucking dead in hc unless they create some alternate way of leveling
the interludes at the end felt more appropirate. maybe they could take those and create some alternate, faster way of leveling if you have already completed the campaign on your account.
it's criminal how much of a slog it was to get through the campaign
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>>550473727
This has all been possible with maces and fissure skills already. The only reason bear is more powerful is because of the fucking "while shapeshifted" nodes that they made sure to juice so their big new pet class isn't DOA.
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>>550473739
Probably need an xbow upgrade. Fubgun wouldn't play a build if it didn't 2-3 shot every boss through the campaign.
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>>550474346
why's there only a new bear skin unique?
where are wolf and wyverns uniques
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>>550474263
Lily boobs
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>>550474312
congratulations, you made it through the campaign.
You are now allowed to play the endgame with epic content such as uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>550474263
it's been up for a while
we need new doomer faces for the collage >>550470039
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>>550474450
>>550474418
i just love her bros
like
seriously love her
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Don't really know why anyone would want to work for Jonatroon when they could jump ship and go work for Chris and redeem their soul
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>>550474460
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>>550474460
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>>550474460
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>>550474087
That's actually pretty healthy overall.
>4 of them in the sub-1% as usual
>Dominant ascends (mostly new stuff) aren't over 20%
This is what it looked like day-5 last League.
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>>550474398
cool, and where am i gonna pull that from, my ass?
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>>550474474
>Can't keep his insufferable dipshit memes that nobody else ascribes to out of the OP
Critical failure.
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>>550473245
They made the act zones retarded to navigate and with no clear progression. After act 1 you are constantly bouncing around, backtracking, porting back to town etc. Almost none of the story takes place outside of the town, everything is exposition dumped on you back at town after you get the mcguffin or kill the big bad. There's no seamless progression to the zones because every quest is either hidden in a side area (a3) or requires you to take a scenic vehicle cutscene to get to it (a2, a4). This coupled with the aforementioned exposition dumps means the gameplay and pacing is constantly broken up by npc vomitous
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>>550473729
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0rVi5ti8TY
i like geonor but high templar avarius/innocence brutally mogs all of poe 2 campaign
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>>550474514
You should be checking the vendor after every level up for a weapon thats better if yours is falling off
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>>550472716
kys nigger i like swordbro
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>>550458330
https://youtu.be/dsks0-fG2ro?si=EdY5zmE0OQuI7eMQ
Consider me reminded. This proves they have literally no QA. they just kinda write stuff and ship it.
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>>550474263
My dude Larry lookin good with his dress and little boobs
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>>550474482
and Kitava is one of the most played in HCSSF. Just not good for SC div/hr ladder clumbers, but that's fine
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>>550477821
Wrong, Kitava is in fourth, not even the most popular Warrior ascendancy little chud.



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