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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8949 - Suicidever Edition

==NEWS==
>NiGHTS, AiAi, Tangle & Whisper in Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds
https://youtu.be/B0DHucYYD0k
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
>Sonic universe event film to release on December 22, 2028
https://xcancel.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org
>SHC
https://shc.zone
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygFDeG5BucU

Previous Zone: >>552506986
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>>552568831
>Using some song from some rando rather than the theme from M.A.S.H
Shame on you and you shit taste
https://youtu.be/QOS6kfR9u4s
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Douge
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>>552569753
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You can have fun, fun with a pencil! The sky is the limit! Just open the link and join us anon. The skill required to enter is 0 :D
https://magma.com/d/kuW6CjIUl2
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>>552569497
I don't understand these latest drawings I see of Blaze with yellow eyes
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>>552568831
silver is trans so the answer is simple
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>>552570540
Good art wanted on gender swap propaganda
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Green Hill looking more like Suicide Hill these days
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>>552570540
>silver is trans
Kill yourself, genderswap art isn't tranny shit
femver's boobies are 100% natural
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Rapedow
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Grabs you
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Petition to make Sonic younger in the next movie
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>>552568831
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>>552570965
+ 'nic
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>hey anon, wanna sign a suicide pact with us?
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>>552571456
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>>552571459
This picture is dangerous. I have to thank Sega for not making Silver a girl
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tradwife silver
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>>552571473
Suicide bad
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>>552570928
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>>552568831
Why are Silversissies like this?
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watch this kino
https://youtu.be/bkyPLsRNQsM?si=ArzgfJAzTna05x-m
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>>552569849
btfo yet again shitougetard
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>>552571762
What the fuck is this gay-ass art? Every day I am reminded of how badly Surge was fucked up, she should've been an evil punk girl and not whatever the FUCK this is
I HATE EVAN STANLEY I HATE EVAN STANLEY I HATE EVAN STANLEY I HATE EVAN STANLEY I HATE EVAN STANLEY I HATE EVAN STANLEY I HATE EVAN STANLEY I HATE EVAN STANLEY
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>>552572117
>Rumble
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>>552571902
Stupid normie meme
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>552570128
Kys cultist
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>>552568831
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What do you want out of a Sonic Hub world? How should it be structured?
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>>552571987
we will never escape chuunislop
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>>552573342
Chuuni is the SOVL of this series without it you get Brandnic the Hello Kitty for boys
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>>552568831
Silver would never off himself. He even made his notgf kill herself for him instead, what a weak ass faggot.
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>>552573339
I want it to look like the one from Unleashed or Sonic 06. I want it to have human NPCs that give you side quests and I want it to have collectibles, secrets, and random events. I want this in Frontiers 2
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>>552573339
Everytime you finish a zone you go through a little city where you can buy upgrades
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>>552573629
Same
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>>552573503
Guess he'll need some help.
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>>552573815
get some help
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20 years of non-stop suffering no wonder Silverfags want to kill themselves
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Would making Silver suicidal be IC?
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IT IS ME, THE END
*credits start rolling*
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>>552574149
>he played on journalist difficulty
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>>552573720
This is what nearly every open world game has and it's what increases replay value and immersion. It's a no-brainer to have it in an open world game
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>>552574149
That is one sexy ball
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>>552574109
He suicidal but for the sake for a bigger cause, not suicidal suicidal
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Perhaps Silver doesn't belong in any games. He belongs in twink porn
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>>552574443
Yeah but they already had it in those games so it's kinda sad that Frontiers had to be empty in that regard. They also need more iconic/memorable locations.
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>>552574160
Don't cry, Shitver. At least you have a perfect win/loss ratio in IDW.
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>>552574521
Everyone is a Twink in the Sonic Universe
https://x.com/i/status/2007574608573280684
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>>552573339
For a new 2D game I would like for them to do a Metroidvania Sonic game

For 3D I think Shadow Generations did a good at job at creating a very interractive hubworld with stuff to do and collect, basically just improve upon what that game did but give me the Adventure gameplay
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>>552574521
It's not like IDW hasn't been trying to turn him into a faggot for years now...
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>>552572427
More canon than anything your crackship has tard.
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twink general
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>>552574143
kys realdash
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>>552574598
No wonder Frontiers felt so empty when I saw gameplay of it. I was wondering to myself why people were praising it despite its lack of content and soul
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Touching Sonic's ball
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>>552572117
>Metal Sonic jobs yet again
Metal bros...
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>Blaze being anywhere at this point
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>>552573503
>He even made his notgf kill herself for him instead
She did that without his consent. His plan was to seal himself away and she stole it from him.
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Why does an american like Sonic hate Gun's despite them being his god given right?
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>>552575181
It's because it's just fun to control, for the most part, in the open zones, when it's not forcing you into 2D sections (Chaos Island). Ares Island feels the most polished, and The Final Horizon has some creative and challenging platforming for the first time in a long time in the series. The fact that they're just generic abandoned islands is indeed disappointing though
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>>552575328
Jealous bitch took his spotlight
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>>552575267
Interdimensional trade, duh.
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>>552575430
>GUN invades Venezuela to kidnap Maduruo
cue Sonic Adventure 3
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>>552575137
No.
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Twists your spine cutely*
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>>552575430
Guns don't fit Sonic.
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>Ladies are notorious for stalking men.

>Amy isn't allowed to stalk Sonic anymore because Western cunts think it's "sexist against women".

Retards removed a cute quirk Amy had, that women are known for, for no reason. kek.
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>>552575430
I haven't played Shad05. Mechanically, what do guns and other weapons in Shad05 offer that the basic homing attack didn't? How do they change Modern Sonic's base gameplay?

in other words>>552575267
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>>552575664
I meant guns as in firearms, Not the military force called G.U.N.
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>>552575446
>Very interesting, however our feedback says we should focus on making the game easier for everyone instead
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>>552564069
Then she's doing her job, which is impressive after decades of suffering from sega's shit gameplay, shit writing and shit promotion. I guess some characters can weather the storm and stay prominent while the rest become kart filler
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>>552575826
I was so disappointed when everyone on Twitter complained about it being too hard. The idea would be to have meaningful difficulty options, but I think they'll listen to that criticism, unfortunately
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>>552575664
Isn't there a mission in Shad05 that's basically this? Like the Black Arms tells him to kill/kidnap the President of the UF?
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>>552575842
I'm horny and I have a drinking problem.
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>>552575812
>Mechanically, what do guns and other weapons in Shad05 offer that the basic homing attack didn't?
Since they were tacked on, They were basically just press x to kill at distance.
I do think you could combine adventure movement with a third person shooter, But current Sonic team lack the talent.
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>>552575968
Will they listen to feedback requesting human NPCs, collectibles, secrets, and random events?
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>>552575210
https://youtu.be/94PFWs8Melw?si=0YnvVPhiz6K7EobC
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>>552576092
I don't remember if anyone mentioned that to Kishimoto at the time
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Finally getting around to playing Sonic Frontiers and wow, Sonic's English VA sounds very odd. Like the voice director said, "We want Sonic to sound like his balls dropped and he wants everyone to know"

The acting itself isn't bad, just the direction they went with is markedly different from how Sonic typically sounds.

The game itself is aiight so far. I'm only 2 hours in. Boy did they take a lot of inspiration from BotW. Open world, ancient-high-tech-ruins, koroks (kocos), shrines. Like damn, they weren't subtle at all.

I know BotW didn't invent all of those concepts, but the similarities with BotW's specific implementation of them is pretty obvious
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>>552575974
>kill/kidnap the President of the UF
>Shadow my spawn, you must kill President Bush for his crimes in the middle east
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>>552576034
It's only a problem if you run out of booze before passing out.
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>>552570128
You can tell this person is a tourist based on how the post is written. But that's to be expected from the shitboard cult.
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>>552576212
I know it sounds crazy, but I really didn't like botw, while I enjoyed Frontiers quite a bit. To me Frontiers succeeded despite the botw inspiration, not because of it
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>>552576249
Jihadow the TerroristHog

>>552576039
I guess this also kind of answers my question, but I also heard that the firearms had recoil too. Also, I think there are melee weapons, so how does that work?
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>>552576332
True, that and I drink until Amy comes out of my computer screen, invites me to the couch and lets me lay my head on her lap so she can caress my hair and talk dirty to me asmr-style.
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Do you like a Man in uniform?
also why is Shadow a Sargent? You don't think the ultimate lifeform is good enough for a officers rank
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/zdMAfh5J3Bs
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>>552576667
Anon, that will never happen. Cause your not Sonic
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>>552576175
Me neither. Makes me wonder if they'll still listen to fans who have requested that even if it wasn't on Kishimoto's original Twitter post and I sure do hope so
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>>552576784
Cute and canon!
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>>552531146
I've said this before, but Sage should kidnap all her "siblings" that left Eggman and rebuild them into some Frankensteinian abomination.
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>>552577000
You underestimate the extent of my drinking habits, upon liver failure, I turn blue and I see nothing but gold rings.
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>>552577462
In English?
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>>552577648
My dingaling.
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>>552577492
Is this by Evan or one of her many imitators?
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>>552577648
They like Karasuno's art.
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Killing myself so I wake up in Sonic's world with Shadow as my husband
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>>552571246
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>>552578169
I despise Ian Flynn so much
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>>552578169
These weirdos always like to hide their true intentions in the "lore" scribbles in video games.
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>>552578169
computer doesnt have preferences, it's made by 0s and 1s
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VR + AI will give me the Dow I desire. Which Sonic character are you waiting for to be real?
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Blaze the GYATT
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>>552575842
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>>552578169
>oh no they're using pronouns
It makes sense here you tunnel minded morons

He knows Sage is a computer program. Computer programs don't historically have a gender, they are things. However Sage looks like a girl. He is growing fond of it/her. He wonders if this computer program would prefer being called it, as a computer, or she, which is the gender she looks like
Any talk about a pronoun and thousands of years of media literacy go out the window because you lot equate pronouns to wokeness despite them being actual English terms to denote this kind of shit
Read a fucking book
My recommendation, the goddamn dictionary
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>>552579186
Sage being a computer program is just being used for plausible deniability when someone asks Ian if he put the gender thing in the egg memo for brownie points
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Which Sonic character would be the biggest stoner?
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>>552578528
To add, a computer doesn't have preferences, but this is fiction where robots have a lot more personality and are allowed to grow. In this world of fiction most robots are allowed to have preferences, biases and make choices. Actual robots are boring, at least in terms of character, as they're just programmed or using some sort of AI database learning thing.
Fictional robots are slightly wooden yet with humanity we can ascribe to them.
In this we can suggest a fictional robot might have an opinion on what they are called.
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>>552579436
Silver because there's nothing better to do in his shitass future
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>>552579436
Big and Froggy.

>Hey big guy
>Hey little guy
>Can you tell me who came first
>Sorry, but I don't know
>We are simply natural
>Okay, all you have to do is sit up, look left, right, up, and down
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>SEVEN COINS IN HAND
JUMP THROUGH NIGHTS WITH FEET IN SAND
>SEVEN COINS IN HAND
WONDERS ALL UNDER COMMAND
>SEVEN COINS IN HAND
WILD WITH JUST ONE SINGLE HAND
>SEVEN COINS IN HAND
OVERALLS CATCH FIRE NOW
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>>552580354
Great, Now do one for Wario https://files.catbox.moe/3snans.png
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What would be a good reason for a Sonic/ Shadow Fusion form?
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>>552580895
Defeating the ultimate villain
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>>552580895
Seelkadoom becomes a real thing. That or a Majin Buu like threat
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>Defeating the ultimate villain
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>>552581192
Lickable pits
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>>552580895
A Sonic game having fusion as a gameplay mechanic/gimmick.

Also, does the fusion keep the air shoes?
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Sonic characters for THIS feel?
https://youtu.be/GBFD8emMpMU
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>>552581243
>Also, does the fusion keep the air shoes
It does but he only uses them when either freestyling or using firearms. Otherwise it's just running.
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>>552568831
Blaze cheats on Silver with Amy
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>>552581192
god i wish this was me (the unknown second person, not amy)
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Sonic and Shadow as Daffy and Porky Pig
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>>552580895
buh wuh hub silbuh
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>>552581978
Who's Bugs?
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>>552581978
TLTS or Looney Tunes Cartoons?
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>>552582335
fuckin Tails
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>>552581978
>>552582335
>>552582421
Wrong
Sonic is Bugs
Shadow is Daffy
Tails is Porky
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>>552582193
I wish I had this properly fully cropped, she is so cute on this
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>>552580564
Wario is for Surge.
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>>552580564
>INHALE THE GARLIC AND STENCHES IN THE DARK
>HAVE A ROTTEN DAAAAAAAY
>NO ONE CAN ROB YOU NOBODY CAN SCAM YOU
>YOU'LL HAVE ENDLESS COINS FOREVEEEER
>INHALE THE GARLIC AND STENCHES IN THE DARK
>HAVE A ROTTEN DAAAAAAAY
>YOU'LL BE A BLIGHT WHEREVER YOU GOOOOO
>THEY'LL HAVE TO SMELL IT AGAIN AND AGAAAAAIN
>AND AGAAAAIN
>AND AGAIN
>AND AGAIN
>AND AGAIN
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>>552582630
Do you have the original image? I could try cutting her out as a png
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>>552582707
Imagine the sex
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>>552582518
bruh
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>>552582707
Don't be ridiculous, Wario gets way hotter bitches than that man faced bitch Surge any day.
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>>552582878
imagine the smell
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>>552582519
why is sonic green
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>>552582996
>w-who're ya callin' man-faced, huh?
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>>552582918
Do you not know about Chuck Jones Daffy?
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>>552582518
Wouldn't Porky be Silver? They both even have stutters.
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>>552583380
That's Manic, Sonic's little brother on the left. Evil green Sonic is on the right.
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Did I miss anything in the last thread or is it just not worth sifting through?
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What's your favorite Green Sonic?

Manic
Scourge(Archie)
Surge
Green Virtual Hedgehog
Asura
Cosmo(Fleetway)

Am I missing any?
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>>552582858
I don't have idea where that anon got it from, I just wish I had the amy pic isolated without the other stuff and having the whole fan intact
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>>552583935
stay down here with the fishes
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>>552584197
I'm not sure if that green skateboard rat from Sonic Boom counts
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>>552584197
Gotta be Manic
Also https://youtu.be/rRZ-IxZ46ng
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I guarantee you all that the lesbian shit in IDW is not going to be looked back on favorably by anyone. I half expect Evan to disavow the ship within 8 years.
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>>552570128
You banned half a dozen people for drawing different shit. Fuck off, retards.
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Date with the cute pink rat
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>>552584786
Why do you feel like that?
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>>552585018
Because the overall community is starting to push back on it. Even hardcore Whispangle shippers started to get tired of it, and them basically being ostracized for it turned them completely against the ship.

People are getting sick of making characters gay for the sake of it and it's starting to show.
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>>552584518
Weird pull, but I like it. He's a shrew, but Surge isn't a hedgehog either.
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>>552585018
Pendulum is swinging to the right side of culture again. None of the lgbt stuff is going to survive even a bit of scrutiny because of how badly the ship is written and how it actively made both characters worse so it'll become a very easy target for people to use.
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>>552584662
sauce?
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>>552584815
Not her, let me guess, cunny?
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>>552585392
Don't have one, Sorry
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>>552585018
It's the ultimate expected result when you write very poorly planned relationship that makes both characters worse than when they were introduced because the ship makes both of them retarded and actual nutjobs with clear mental problems rather than cartoony nutjobs.
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>>552568831
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>>552584786
Yeah, It really is just hollow pandering.
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Shadow the Hedgehog 2: The Black Arms Outbreak
>like the Metal Virus but with Black Arms infecting everyone
>inspired by John Carpenter's The Thing
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>>552584197
What about green knuckles
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>>552585870
So does the infection turn you into a Black Arms alien or is it like an Alien situation where you become a seedbed that hosts Black Arms larvae until they violently burst out of your body?
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They should pull an MGS2 if they make a Shadow the Hedgehog 2. Advertise and show videos and demos of it, all clearly showing Shadow playable and when the game comes out the first plot twist is that all those pictures and videos were from the first 2 hours of the game where you play the intro as Shadow and then the rest of the game you're playing as Silver.
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>>552586238
That sounds absolutely fucking horrible on every single level.
Do it. It'll mind break the fandom for decades.
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>>552586238
But then the name of the game doesn't make sense, unless Silver adopts the moniker of 'Shadow'
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>>552586186
hot
but I was thinking like the Black Arms mimic people or control people's minds and Shadow doesn't know who's really who until they betray him or turn into their true Black Arms forms mid-mission
something something [Prototype] Supreme Hunter
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>>552569174
>>552569379
Chad Felix.
Chad MASH.
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>>552586546
The player knows it's Silver because we can see it's obviously Silver. But in this game's timeline no one has seen him before and he got brainwashed by Black Arms because they thought his power was useful and thought Shadow was dead. He even uses his telekinesis like it's Chaos powers because he thinks he's Shadow.
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>>552569535
https://youtu.be/kj3r1M51WTc?si=YeUv7106qKdLzufF
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>>552587042
Damn I'm actually interested in it now
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>>552585870
>Shadow the Hedgehog 2: The Black Arms Outbreak
Honestly, I feel like a black arms return should be more like a combo of star craft's Zerg mixed with the Locus from Gears of war. ideally with an emergence day inspired opening for their invasion. Maybe using mutated corpse, stolen from graveyards as the ground troops for their new army And Maria being their resurrected queen
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>>552587723
>spoiler
Shadow would die of conniptions
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>>552587042
There's like 3 narrative jokes about Shadow going on in this sentence. Impressive.
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Teek!
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>>552587723
>>552587868
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>>552586238
I don't love it. Mostly because it implies that Shadow 4 would end with him dying of escalated aging.
That and Gerald will be retconed to somehow not be dead.
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Left or Right?
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>>552588750
Eva/"Big Mama"
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Why don't more fanworks address the fact that Shadow is eternally a 'teen'? Anybody he dates will become a mature adult while he stays the same
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>>552588750
>He doesn't want it to be canon that Tails literally cucks Amadeus to death.
>Or the remake of the first game with the second game's engine and all the cutscenes and cursing is turned up to 11.
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>>552589079
His current VA gives people the impression he's a +50-yr-old man with a chain-smoking habit. It's kinda hard to see past that
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>>552589079
>Why don't more fan works address the fact that Shadow is eternally a 'teen'?
Because there is literally no proof. Sure Shadow may be immortal but he remains 15 cause no one in Sonic games really ages, If they Did i'm sure he would age at least until he's biologically 25
>But he's lived 50 years already and has not aged
He was in Cryo you idiots. No one ages while in ice.
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>>552589513
>Because there is literally no proof.
'06's future. Looks the same.
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>>552589513
Shadow already had a teenage body when he was made. If he was aging, he would have started as a baby. And if there was an age for him to stop at, it would indeed be around 15, not 25, since the teenage years is when puberty peaks/ends. Not that he even needs puberty, he's immortal and probably not designed to reproduce. If anything Gerald should have made him younger.
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>>552589405
So for Shadow 3, Would Terios be a Naked Snake stand in or would we reveal that Gerald has a cold war background?
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Time to make my very first post this year
ahem
I love cunny
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>>552589954
>Sonic fights a black baby hedgehog.
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Shadow is 15 and immortal (this means he doesn't die).
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>>552589997
Shadow 3 stars an unnamed hedgehog working with G.U.N. under the codename SHADOW. He suspiciously looks like Shadow but without his stripes and fierce features. He rescues Professor Gerald from some electric powered masochist (Surge) and stopping a world war.
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>>552589954
>If anything Gerald should have made him younger
Shadow aging like a normal person and having an entire life on the arc would have been kino. The only issue it that would make him biologically younger than Maria, but you could just say the ARK raid happened when he was 10 or something and it took 5 years for G.U.N to capture him. Then you could say that G.U.N MK Ultraed his memory's and Gerald messed with it, hence why Shadow doesn't remember.
One other advantage is that it would also make Shadow the same age as the G.U.N commander.
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>>552589954
I believe 15 makes sense. Things like the age of consent wouldn't even be relevant because Shadow isn't designed to live a typical life. At 15, he's mostly fully grown, and the fact that his brain isn't entirely developed could actually make it easier for him to adapt to a variety of situations. It would be far simpler to guide him into his role as a living weapon, shaping him into what he’s meant to become.
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>>552590587
>from some electric powered sadist*
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>>552590645
Nah Shadow being an old man is mega cringe. He wouldn't look like Sonic's dark reflection. Plus it makes 'boku' weird
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i like that shadow is 15 because i am a pedophile
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>>552590631
>Silvails
hmmm…
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Shadow gets to stay forever fun-sized
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>>552591295
Krack....
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My headcanon is that Shadow does age but exponentially slower, pretty much like Viltrumites but even longer, also I had this headcanon before I even knew of Invincible. In like 300 years he'll look like he just hit adulthood and then 5000 years later he looks like he's in his mid 20's.
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Hey, anon! I think you're cute!
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>>552590807
I don't think 15 is unreasonable, I just said that because if he doesn't need to be able to reproduce then puberty is pointless (and any of its side effects would already be part of his design regardless)
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>>552591505
Boys are fertile and sexually developed by 15 anyway, 18 is a made up arbitrary number
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>>552591456
Vitimites age normally until their 20s anon Just like Shadow
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Shadow is nigga Sonic
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>>552591497
Shut the FUCK up and take my dick.
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>>552591497
??
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>>552591423
Scribbles understands all the characters. ALL OF THEM!
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>>552591651
Shadow is 15 forever cope selfinserter
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>>552591497
*breaks down and cries*
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>>552591771
>Shadow is 15 forever
Yeah cause no one ages in Sonic games anon. But if he could he would grow to his 20s
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>>552591681
(You)
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>>552591876
>But if he could he would grow to his 20s
No he wouldn't selfinserter >>552589891
He will never be a real adult
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>>552591497
Except for you Woefag
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>>552589891
>>552591976
Way to act like that was an artistic choice rather than the classic case of not wanting to make a separate model for Shadow we are only gonna see once. You could argue that the crucifix prison also acted as cryostasis but that not here nor there.
I do find it dumb that they didn't just kill Shadow, I mean he's functionally immortal but he can still be killed
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Sonic - Shadow
Tails - Eggman
Knuckles - Rouge
Amy - Maria
Who's the Gerald of the Hero side?
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>>552592315
fix this fucking bot
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>>552592371
You are completely wrong about everything. Shadow looks the way he does in the future because he doesn't age. They don't kill him because he cannot be killed, as he is immortal. "He's immortal but he can be killed" is a contradiction. Shadow doesn't die. It was never stated that the only condition that Shadow can't die from is old age, that's made up nonsense. Shadow was made to be durable, to be immune to illness, to be immortal. He's not getting killed by a gun shot.
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>>552592371
He doesn't age. He has eternal youth. What part isn't clear? He's not going to age into his 20s, you only want that because you're in your 20s.
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>>552592612
He can die from a headshot or from being pulverized or being blown up
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>>552592794
Wrong. Shadow is canonically stated to be immortal. He can't die.
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>>552591821
You sound like you need more doe sex.
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>>552592918
Shadow can lose a life but that's the same as dying
>twirls like a ballet dancer before BLACK OUT
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>>552592930
*cries harder*
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>>552592612
He almost dies at the end of Adventure 2 you idiot. Shadow may not age but he sure as hell can be killed. I'm not saying it would be easy to kill Shadow, Most villains in this series would fail, but it is possible.
>>552592765
Never grow old just means he won't become a old man. It means jack shit about being ageless
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>>552593016
>lose a life
Using gameplay for this is like making Sonic go slow and die and then using that as proof that Sonic can't run fast
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>>552593040
Whisper...
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>>552593016
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>>552593137
It's not possible for Shadow to die, that's what "immortal" means: he doesn't die.
It's not possible for Shadow to become any older than he already is, that's what "doesn't age" means: he doesn't become older.

>He almost dies at the end of Adventure 2 you idiot
"Almost" means "doesn't".
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>>552593137
>It means jack shit about being ageless
????
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>>552593310
For death to happen, all organs must shut down and the body must lose consciousness. That can happen to Shadow if he gets shot in the head, pulverized, and blown up
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>>552592509
Not a bot bud
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>>552593976
>That can happen to Shadow if
It can't because he's immortal. That's why he didn't die when everyone thought he did and why they couldn't kill him in the future.
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>>552594209
So a bullet cannot physically penetrate his skull nor can an explosion rip his body apart? How is that possible?
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There's different types of immortality. Shadow only has Age immortality. Gerald Robotnik heavily implies Shadow would die if was very careless using inhibitor rings. If he always was 100% without flaw, there wouldn't be a need for inhibitors and the dire consequences that come with it.
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>>552595178
What the fuck anon? Are you trying to murder Amyfags?
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>>552594813
It isn't. It's beyond human capacity. It's like creating a shadow without the thing that is casting it.
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>>552595000
trips of truth, shadow's only immortal in not aging
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>>552595178
You will see the fruits of my labor soon enough
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>>552595000
That says Shadow would burn, not that he wold die.

>Shadow only has Age immortality
Maria wasn't dying of old age. Part of the plot twist of Sonic using Chaos Control to avoid death is that it draws a parallel between Sonic and Shadow (Sonic is immortal in his own way), and that wasn't Sonic dying of old age either.
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Shadow is immortal in that he will not age, and he cannot die from illness. He has eternal youth. He is also extremely durable, and could probably survive injuries that would kill your average person. But he can theoretically be killed. If his head were cut off that's it for him.
There is also no proof anywhere he can regenerate things like a missing limb. It's a common fandom headcanon, but it doesn't have much basis.
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>>552595313
I'm just spreading the gospel
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>>552595357
Let's look at it from a pathology viewpoint. What is it that prevents a bullet from penetrating his skull? Does Shadow posses an inborn ability to absorb and retain nutrients like calcium, magnesium, phosphorus, potassium vitamins, and proteins better than other creatures., which would make his bones unbreakable? Can he not get blown up due to the robust synergy and interconnection of his skin, bones, tendons, and ligaments?
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>"ultimate lifeform"
>dies to an explosion lol

>>552595861
>But he can theoretically be killed.
There is currently no proof of this. On the other hand, he is stated to be immortal in a generic manner and his immortality was used as a major plot point at least twice, and directly referenced in Heroes.
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>>552595745
>Shadow only has Age immortality
>Maria wasn't dying of old age. Part of the plot twist of Sonic using Chaos Control to avoid death is that it draws a parallel between Sonic and Shadow (Sonic is immortal in his own way), and that wasn't Sonic dying of old age either.
He said shadow would explode.
Also where are you getting this headcanon. Sonic isn't immortal, he dies of old age consistently.
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>>552596271
I'm getting this """head"""canon from the games and other official Sonic Team material. Sonic and Shadow are constantly said to be equal. Sonic might not be literally physically immortal like Shadow is, but he is shown and said to be immortal in his own way. In SA2 Shadow realizes Sonic is his equal when he is surprised that something that should have killed Sonic for sure didn't. In Heroes, when Sonic is surprised that Shadow is still alive, he says about him the same thing he said about himself in SA2. And in Sonic 2006, when Sonic physically dies, it is said that his spirit remains in the wind, and the core of his story in that game is about how is life philosophy revives life. Sonic and Shadow aren't identical, but they are equal, so, as I said, "Sonic is immortal in his own way". I described exactly what is shown and said in the games.

>He said shadow would explode.
So nothing about him dying, then.
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>>552596752
Shadow is not a whore
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>>552597051
But if he didn't have the chaos energy, the bullets would be able to penetrate his body, right?
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>>552597591
probably
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>>552597591
Even if that happened, he wouldn't die.
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This place will die by the time the movie comes out
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>>552597991
There's no concrete proof to say this yet.
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>But bomb will just make you explode, it's not gonna kill you
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>>552598046
>retconned scene
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penetrating shadow's body
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Shadow's "ultimate" genes jobbing easily to the Metal Virus gives me doubts on the unkillable headcanon.
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>>552598060
There is. All the official Sonic Team material says that he's immortal, with no conditions like "age immortal" or "disease immortal", just immortal. The reason Gerald accepted to create him had nothing to do with old age, it was a general immortality request and he accepted it in the hopes of curing a disease. Shadow realizes that Sonic is equal to him when Sonic avoids death by using the Chaos Control, which also has nothing to do with either age or diseases. In the future, where everyone wants to kill him, they don't kill him, they just trap him instead.

>>552598362
You mean the thing everyone agreed was inaccurate, OOC, and badly written?
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>>552598408
MILFS
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>>552597991
why wouldn't he die? he is slowly walking to the military shooting the shit out of him
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>>552597051
He's not using Chaos Energy when he's in the smoke.
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>Sonic Team: Shadow is immortal
>Anon: Shadow would totally die to a gunshot to the head guys!!!

>>552598539
Because Shadow doesn't die. That's not a thing Shadow does. It's OOC.
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>>552598441
people agreed it was inaccurate because of how shadow handled the situation, not about these unkillable immortal genes you're forcing
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>>552598046
I NEED A SMALL FURRY GIRL TO ABUSE ME LIKE THIS
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>>552597591
>he bullets would be able to penetrate his body, right?
Sonic wasn't penetrated by bullets in 06's E3 trailer, and he wasn't cut by Merlina's sword, either. Sonic characters have piercing resistance.
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>>552598727
I'm not forcing anything, and no, I've seen plenty of people over the years say that it was stupid for Shadow to be vulnerable to a virus despite being created to be immortal and cure diseases.
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>>552598813
Sonic canonically died to a piercing attack.
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>>552598693
I know they wouldn't kill a sonic character like that without meaning something to the story (and I know you are jokin) but gunshots would totally damage him but is more likely he has faster reaction speed and obviously the speed to dodge.
>>552598813
sonic 06 lmao
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>>552598693
>Because Shadow doesn't die
Because of plot armor, not because he doesn't age. Fucking Batman doesn't die but I wouldn't say he's immortal
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Why does sparky make headcanons to make everyone a complete Mary Sue or Gary Stu. That makes Sonic boring. That makes Shadow boring.
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>>552599003
I don't think that anon is joking.
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Sonic should grow out his quills
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>>552599003
I don't know the specifics of how Shadow is immortal, they probably keep them simple and vague on purpose, but either way, he is not dying. It's part of his character concept, Shadow doesn't die.

>gunshots would totally damage him
Maybe. He wouldn't die from it though.

>>552599152
I was joking when I described it as "OOC", but I don't know if that's what that anon meant.

>>552599134
>Because of plot armor
No, because Shadow is immortal.

>not because he doesn't age
That's a separate matter. A character could age and be immortal. Shadow is both ageless and immortal.
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>>552599506
Rather he's immoral because he's ageless
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>>552598521
Don't we all love em
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>>552598838
That same IDW scene has been confirmed to be mandated and rewritten from cues by Sega and Sonic Team. If they didn't want Shadow to succumb to the Metal Virus, they could easily have denied it. I really don't think Shadow is this unkillable immortal guy you think he is. It's commonly accepted he is just ageless which is a type of being immortal.
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>>552599636
Hungry, hun?
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>>552598046
>>552598184
The reaction to this scene being changed just proves how boring modern sonic fans are. You could take this as an alternate timeline, expand the lore, and get creative with it. etc. But everyone was so obsessed with canon.
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>>552599147
>Why does sparky make headcanons to make everyone a complete Mary Sue or Gary Stu
He's mentally 10. i'm not saying the rest of us are mature but at least mentally old enough to like tits
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>>552599613
Sonic Team says he's immortal and ageless, not that he's immortal because he's ageless. Which, again, wouldn't make sense with his story, Maria wasn't dying of old age.

>>552599780
>confirmed to be mandated and rewritten from cues by Sega and Sonic Team
Yes, same as the rest of the comic, and yet it's full of OOC moments, wrong lore, continuity issues, and many other problems. If IDW is your best argument against what the games say and show I don't think you have a strong case.

>It's commonly accepted he is just ageless
Anyone who thinks this doesn't know why Gerald accepted to research immortality in the first place, since his motivation has nothing to do with old age.
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Shadria...
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>>552599953
Thanks, pink rat.
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So if Shadow got his head cut off, would he still be alive?
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>>552600293
Obviously, he is immortal. I doubt that's a plot point Sonic Team would be interested in exploring though, and if they did they would probably find a way to give him his head back.
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>>552582519
Shadow wouldn't care and I'm surprised anyone thinks he would react at all
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>>552600549
Stop saying stuff that has not happened yet.
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>>552600436
You're only thinking about electing dictators...
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>>552600741
Tell that to the anon claiming that the character who can't die as his defining trait dies.
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>>552600739
caught crying again
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>>552600680
Shadow may be emotionally stunted but he still feels and cares about people and I'm pretty sure he would have a reaction, even if it was unexpected.
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>>552600840
>character who can't die
not proven
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>>552591423
So he's always been hiding his character autism power level a bit
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>>552600756
I didn't want to bring this up in public Elias but since we're dropping civilities...Can you please tell your sister to stop walking around with her bare ass and breasts swaying?
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>>552600948
See >>552598441
Now where's your proof that Shadow can die? Oh right, there isn't, everything clearly states that he is immortal.
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>>552600680
They're delusional
>>552600946
He wouldn't care dude. He'd just go "ok" if Rouge dated Manic or whoevever.
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>>552601046
Being ageless is being immortal, they only said both things to confirm that is what Shadow has to the reader.
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>>552601204
Again, being ageless can't cure NIDS.
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>>552601002
My sister is free like the wind.
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Shadow thinks he's mortal in the current timeline. It's not until his dark future does he realize that he actually can't die.
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https://x.com/SONIC_FORCES_JP/status/926723739621797889
>「シャドウ」は、ソニックと並ぶスピードと高い戦闘能力を持った、黒きハリネズミにして不老不死の究極生命体だ。現実主義で冷徹な性格ではあるが、自分の意志のみに従う高潔さも特徴で、彼がエッグマンの軍門に下っている理由は謎である。一体、何が…?

>不老不死
>Perputual Youth or Longevity: Immortality
https://jisho.org/search/%E4%B8%8D%E8%80%81%E4%B8%8D%E6%AD%BB%E3%81%AE%E7%A9%B6%E6%A5%B5%E7%94%9F%E5%91%BD%E4%BD%93%E3%81%A0
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>>552591423
...
Sally being confused about Archie implies that Sally isn't from Archie, but she is.
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Project Shadow.
Humanity's eternal and ultimate dream: immortality.
Initially refused by his creator because it would be too arrogant of a project. onsidered impossible.
Ageless. Immune to all diseases. Immortal.
SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG, THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM.
No-one can break you.
Nobody can tear you.
You live an endless life forever.
Unless Anon shoots a bullet in your head then Shadow dies lol
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>>552600094
Only that IDW scene in particular was confirmed to be rewritten by Sega and Sonic team cues. Along with the recent 2 things involving the Shadow scene of him holding a sword and Sticks being in cover art. The rest of IDW just happens with them just saying "eh it's canon" unless its something very wrong that happens.
>Strong case
You also already lazily dismissed actual game lore from another anon countering immortality, Inhibitor rings literally wouldn't be needed if Shadow couldn't die or be put in any danger along with Gerald worrying heavily for his life in that case
>It's commonly accepted he is just ageless
>Anyone who thinks this doesn't know why Gerald accepted to research immortality in the first place, since his motivation has nothing to do with old age.
His research also had nothing to do with making Maria unkillable, just to cure her illness. At best you could say Shadow is an ageless type of immortal that can't fall to typical diseases and maybe NIDS (but Gerald never finished his research so this also makes Shadow's disease negating abilities questionable for anything really abnormal)
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Okay /sthg/, I want you to rate on which female Sonic character is getting a good dicking and the pairing.
https://files.catbox.moe/r6bn7l.png
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>>552600791
That’s cute
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>>552601538
What if it's SatAM Sally?
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>>552601519
>不老不死
Nice find.
不老不死 is a Chinese idiom that literally translates to "not old, not dead" or "neither aging nor dying."
It refers to immortality or eternal youth, the state of never growing old and never dying. This concept is deeply rooted in Chinese mythology, Taoism, and traditional folklore, where immortals are believed to have achieved this state through cultivation, alchemy, or divine intervention.

Shadow is permanently young, like he is now.
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>>552601671
That walking sprite looks a bit like a doggy paddle
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>>552601743
LOCK HER UP
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>>552601369
This is why I'm signing Naugus in. By the way, I hope your sister stay roboticized.
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>>552601561
You are well aware that IDW isn't a good source of factual character information and that you're grasping at straws if you have to bring it into this discussion.

>lazily dismissed
It said nothing about Shadow dying. It could make him unconscious for an extended period of time, which would obviously be very dangerous if he was in a situation desperate enough to need such an attack. If something went wrong somehow, it would be dangerous for everyone and everything around Shadow, even if he himself could recover from it.

>His research also had nothing to do with making Maria unkillable, just to cure her illness.
Of course. He accepted the request to research immortality, curing diseases and thus saving Maria is a side effect of that, not the goal. He only accepted because of the side effect that would give him something he wanted.

>At best you could say Shadow is an ageless type of immortal that can't fall to typical diseases and maybe NIDS
No, that would be your made up headcanon that contradicts Sonic Team, the games, and logic.

>Gerald never finished his research
It's said that they made him continue the research while in prison after Maria died, although again the details are left vague and confusing on purpose.
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>>552598958
>Sonic canonically died to a piercing attack
It was an energy attack. And resistance doesn't mean immunity; if it's strong enough to pierce him, he should still be pierced. Superman can be pierced if the guy trying to stab him is strong enough.
>>552599003
>sonic 06
Yeah, the game SEGA still treats as canon.
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>>552601573
Started playing that game recently. Tsubaki was my first 2 star
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Shadow would die from a fat cock in his ass
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>>552602474
>Yeah, the game SEGA still treats as canon.
Were you trying to be sarcastic? It is canon and they reference it all the time.
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>>552602623
her interpretation of Silver*
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>>552602680
>It is canon
That's...what I just said.
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>Gallagher Archie
>Fun, whimsy, cartoony.

>Gallagher / Penders Archie
>Same as before but more serious. features sci-fi and mysticism. mix of action, lore and world building (That was the sweet spot)

>Early Penders / Bollers Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused

>Late Penders / Bollers Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More drama focused. most archie criticism comes from content made in this era. (slap happens here)

>Flynn Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused

>Flynn reboot archie
>serious. tries to re tell game lore its own way. very action focused

>Flynn IDW
>Reboot archie without the Sonic SatAM stuff

>Evan IDW
>Steven universe fanfic

>Imada Blade of Courge
>Dark age game (Sonic and his co protagonist)

>Imada Shadow
>Shadow gens with more plot

>90s shogakukan manga
>hellokitty for boys
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>>552602747
Alright then, I saw someone one or two days ago who insisted the game isn't canon.
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>sthg debating on which specific interpretation of the canon is in-character
I used to call you guys stupid for not just defaulting to the games but meanwhile over on twitter
>people debating over if the takeovers, IDW, and reboot Archie are examples of sega characterization
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>>552570471
sauce?
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Is Tails Adventure canon?
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>>552602408
>You are well aware that IDW isn't a good source of factual character information and that you're grasping at straws if you have to bring it into this discussion.
That's not what I was saying, just that this was the few times Sonic Team stepped in and still didn't deny having Shadow succumb, but did deny him using Swords.
>It said nothing about Shadow dying. It could make him unconscious for an extended period of time, which would obviously be very dangerous if he was in a situation desperate enough to need such an attack. If something went wrong somehow, it would be dangerous for everyone and everything around Shadow, even if he himself could recover from it.
You're now making up more headcanon scenarios to fit your narrative. You literally stated some semantics about since Gerald didn't use the word die but used EXPLODE, your side of the argument was somehow supported.
>At best you could say Shadow is an ageless type of immortal that can't fall to typical diseases and maybe NIDS
>No, that would be your made up headcanon that contradicts Sonic Team, the games, and logic.
You're literally making up tons of headcanon right now. Mine actually follows the concept of inhibitor rings while you are pulling tons of stuff out of delusion because Shadow having a weakness is so foreign to you.
>His research also had nothing to do with making Maria unkillable, just to cure her illness.
>Of course. He accepted the request to research immortality, curing diseases and thus saving Maria is a side effect of that, not the goal. He only accepted because of the side effect that would give him something he wanted.
>Gerald never finished his research
>It's said that they made him continue the research while in prison after Maria died, although again the details are left vague and confusing on purpose.
That's still not finishing the research and putting Shadow's immortal resistances outside of Aging into question.
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>>552571220
Movie Sonic's popularity might actually fuck up how people see Sonic as a whole
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>>552603173
>might
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Piece of shit bat.
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>>552600756
HOLY SHIT WHAT A SEX GOD
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>>552603142
It's not about the literal word "die", he literally didn't express the concept of him dying. Which makes sense, considering he's immortal. And yes, explosions are dangerous, if Shadow uses his last resort move he needs to be sure that it lands successfully, because if it doesn't he won't be around to deal with the situation for at least some time. That is also a weakness.
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>>552603185
Blueboardanon is back?
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>>552603548
No, we're stuck with the shitty artists from the whiteboard.
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VROOOOOOOOOOOM RATATATATATATATATATA... KABOOOOOM....
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Do you ever think about how Honey is attracted to Tails because he is young and innocent
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>>552602623
>Twitter filename
Sauce?
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>>552603505
>It's not about the literal word "die", he literally didn't express the concept of him dying. Which makes sense, considering he's immortal. And yes, explosions are dangerous, if Shadow uses his last resort move he needs to be sure that it lands successfully, because if it doesn't he won't be around to deal with the situation for at least some time. That is also a weakness.
I literally see Gerald even mentioning exploding, along with dire in the same quote, as a concept of dying and can't see it any other way. Just going to agree to disagree here so we can be on our way.
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>>552603763
I more wonder why everyone beats down an 8 years old and social services have never been involved somehow.
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>>552603763
I don't since Honey isn't a real Sonic character and never had a official personality to begin with
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>>552603548
No, that's from last year.
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>>552602623
this is only ever brought up to make silverfags mad meaning silver not being attractive to a lesbian is the most offensive thing evan did in getting silver wrong
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Twitterfags are slowly realizing that IDW is out of character
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>>552603763
I think you're a pedophile
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>Low swoop maneuver just as you predicted
>You just told me, fox boy.
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>>552603893
they're called human rights, not blobian rights
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>>552603763
>Do you ever think about how Honey is attracted to Tails because he is young and innocent
Hontails is shit.
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>>552603893
When has Tails been beat down by everyone?
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>>552603852
Shadow is immortal, so he would, in some unspecified form, survive exploding. The quote doesn't say anything about him dying, you're only assuming that because you assume that Shadow is mortal (he canonically isn't). If it said that the explosion would kill him then it would be different (and contradictory, given that Shadow is immortal), but that's not what it says. It's dangerous and the explosion might badly damage Shadow. Obviously that should be avoided.
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>>552603947
Everyone here is a pedophile, i saw you nutting on amy who's 12 years old.
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This is officially the year IDW files for bankruptcy.
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Honey fans aren't even real Honey fans. They're archie fans.
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The least kinky ship
https://x.com/i/status/2007537356409319893
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I don't get why this is still being debated. Shadow has eternal youth. He will always look the way he does now, with a body similar to that of a 15 year old's. His immortality means that he cannot grow old, die from age, or fall ill. It's a resistance to all natural causes of death. But he can actually die, theoretically, from having his bones and brains pulverized.
After all, why would Black Doom threaten to send Shadow to the underworld if it were impossible for him to die...? Why would it be possible to kill Black Doom and not Shadow, when Doom's blood is the reason Shadow is immune to aging and illness to begin with?
>"Gerald promised to give us seven Chaos Emeralds in 50 years in exchange for the superior life force of us, the Black Arms. The result of that bargain... was you, Shadow... "
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Can you imagine thia place without faggots spitting out generalized takes for a day?
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>>552604095
>Shadow is immortal, so he would, in some unspecified form, survive exploding. The quote doesn't say anything about him dying, you're only assuming that because you assume that Shadow is mortal (he canonically isn't). If it said that the explosion would kill him then it would be different (and contradictory, given that Shadow is immortal), but that's not what it says. It's dangerous and the explosion might badly damage Shadow. Obviously that should be avoided.
Shadow has only been officially shown to have Age type immortality, everything else is stretching it no matter what you say or think. No I don't think Shadow is Mortal either so don't start putting words in my mouth. Just take the agree to disagree and be done with it.
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I bet if Sonic grew taller then Shadow would also grow taller because them being equals has priority over Shadow's immortality
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>>552604239
Well Honey literally has no character, she's just there as an unused fighter for Sonic the Fighters
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>>552604530
When Sonic cums, Shadow cums, too. They always have an equal amount of semen in their balls.
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>>552604415
>Shadow has only been officially shown to have Age type immortality
False. There is no Sonic Team story in which Shadow definitely dies. And again >>552598441

>I don't think Shadow is Mortal either
You said Shadow can die in any way other than old age, which is another way to say mortal. You say he has every type of mortality and only one type of immortality.

>Just take the agree to disagree
Okay, bye! Feel free to get your last word cope if that makes you feel better.
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>>552604685
You understand Sonic
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>>552604626
>le grumpdow le hates le fun
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>>552604803
Shadow wouldn't even bother with the snowmen
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>>552604530
Shadow being Sonic's near equal is the will of the cosmos. It took only two years before he got his own weird powers after Sonic did something incredible (ShadGens and Frontiers respectively)
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>>552604726
>You said Shadow can die in any way other than old age, which is another way to say mortal.
only on /sthg/ lmao
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>>552604401
>hmm yes i think today i’ll redefine the definition of ‘immortality’ 50 million times
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>>552604726
>Shadow has only been officially shown to have Age type immortality
>False. There is no Sonic Team story in which Shadow definitely dies. And again >>552598441
There's no Sonic team story showing him resisting death by fatal wounds.
>I don't think Shadow is Mortal either
>You said Shadow can die in any way other than old age, which is another way to say mortal. You say he has every type of mortality and only one type of immortality.
That doesn't mean mortal you tard. Being ageless literally already gives you the immortal title. You're now making headcanon of our argument itself.
>Just take the agree to disagree
Okay, bye! Feel free to get your last word cope if that makes you feel better.

This anon >>552604306 made a great point to add on to Gerald saying dire and shadow exploding along with inhibitor rings as a concept. How can Black doom die if Shadow can't?
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>>552604685 (me)
>>552604776
Same goes for urine
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Does Black Doom dying even count as dying when he can just pull himself back into existence out of the ass of some random Black Arms grunt?
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>>552604938
Surely it can't be that hard to just use a dictionary
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>>552604401
I'm not trying to be a schizo here but did we ever figure out why Scribblefag already knew Nine destroys universe and Black Doom can regenerate from larva? Was that last one even established before?
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>>552605132
The anon wanking Shadow's immortality is saying Shadow no matter what will come back in a short amount of time. Black doom dies way more concretely while both of them are made of the same stuff. Which is a big contradiction to this anon's headcanon.
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>>552605259
She is Kishomoto's wife
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>>552605132
He never died, he is just living on shadows balls, when shadow had a kid, he will take over that kid.
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>>552605259
i dunno, i'm to much of an newfag but every time you guys post old shit it's automatically kino material.
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>>552603917
You mean the least offensive? If anything is something good. Anyways, the reason people post it is because it implies Silver is insecure, which he is, and Gold, as a Silver counterpart, should be attractive to someone like Blaze, which makes sense in a way, except making her a lesbian shows Evan's Tumblr side of her personality
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>>552603917
Archie Silver was always incompetent and not confident. He was presented that way since his first appearance in the comics. His entire arc in the preboot is about him being such a colossal fuck up that entire main cast literally hated him.
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>>552605396
Shadow's immortality was inherited by Black Doom
Black Doom is immortal but is still possible to kill him, albeit in very difficult circumstances
Therefore Shadow has the same kind of immortality
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>>552605259
>There has been a "Wade Whipple" in a meme from 2023 :^)
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>>552605396
>will come back in a short amount of time
I never said that. I only said that Shadow cannot die (that's what immortal means). The conditions to how he is immortal aren't officially defined, it's only known that he cannot definitely die. He could very well get majorly injured, which is indeed a possible weakness.

Ah, you did it, you got me to reply again. I'm closing the thread now.
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>>552605657
>him being such a colossal fuck up that entire main cast literally hated him.
Damn does it get that bad?
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>>552605431
>it implies Silver is insecure, which he is
Dub mistranslation.
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>>552605132
He can be destroyed, which is essentially dying. And Shadow cannot pull himself back into existence in the same way as Doom.
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>>552605809
cumfox
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Black Doom, the reason for Shadow's immortality, would not threaten to KILL Shadow if Shadow could not be KILLED.
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>>552605259
To be fair Prime was kind of blaring at you that Nine is bad news from the start but Sonic was too retarded to notice.
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>>552605869
>Damn does it get that bad?
Yes. Not only is there the big dragging scene but after Sonic genuinely hates Silver and doesn't want to see him for the rest of preboot. The traitor arc made him get on everyone's nerves with his repeat blunders.
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>>552606043
erm, maybe in black arms culture killing is like spanking
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>>552606150
>You've been a bad boy, son
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>>552605657
>>552606103
This isn't really surprising since Archie regularly shits on modern era characters while the glazing classic + satam cast
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>>552606043
>the evil lying manipulating alien demon would NEVER lie!
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>>552605809
I recommend picrel
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>>552606103
One of the few good things Archie did
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>>552605762
Nta, but if Shadow can't literally die, why is there tension when he faces an enemy? They can't kill him.
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>>552605873
Shadow says he lacks conviction both in English and Japanese. You will have to stop the cope one day, it's beyond canon
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I like how in sonic X the most key moments between shadow and rouge is about shadow telling her how much of a garbage person she is.
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>>552605259
I didn't know anything. Those were lucky guesses and Sonic is the wind.
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>>552603917
>>552605657
Ian also thinks Silver isn't competent or capable.
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>>552606618
Shadow and Rouge in X don't really have a relationship compared to the game version. They only worked together two times in the entire show.
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>>552606732
is he ok
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>>552606732
>ah fuck, here goes another clone
>better prepare shadow number 47...
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>>552606401
Wtf?
Why don't I remember this page. Whether you believe in Shadria or not, it makes me feel...so sad...
At least Shadow got to experience Maria. I don't think I'll ever have this type of bond.
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>>552606607
Silver had more conviction than anyone in 06. A fucking insult doesn't mean that he's insecure. What does insecure even mean to you?
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>>552606607
SHADOW IS EVAN STANLEY?
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>>552606863
>Shadow number 47 moments after he realizes he isn't the real shadow for the 47th time and the only person near to lash out on is Tails
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>>552606885
Actually, you are stupid. *makes you stupid*
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>>552606606
Rule of cool
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>>552607148
Damn, how long is that tunnel?
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Come to think of it, have we ever seen Shadow bleed?
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If Shadow gets killed he will meet Maria in Heaven and live happily ever after
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>>552607289
almost as long as my penis
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Immortal ≠ invulnerable, you autists
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>>552607148
>he can't get the reference
NPCdow.
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>>552607398
No one said "immortal = invulnerable"
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>>552606874
Bond strong enough to keep a man fighting for the rest of his immortal life
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>>552607378
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>>552606885
I think you are the one who misunderstood losing hope with losing conviction. Silver wasn't sure about killing Sonic being the right thing, Blaze had to CONVINCE him this was the only way = weak CONVICTION. Meanwhile you can lose hope not because you change your mind, but because you feel defeated by the circumstances. Silver wasn't sold in the past he had chosen, but he always believed there was a way to reach his goal
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>>552607487
Shadow's so innocent
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>>552606625
Can you give me some lucky guesses on Frontiers 2? Not leaks, just lucky guesses
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Sonic games are fun
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>>552607483
they did
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>>552607596
It'll feature Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>552607704
They are
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>>552607596
The english and japanese scripts will have nothing in common and there will probably be more NPCs
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>shitdougefag never goes to sleep
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>>552607715
Everyone agreed Shadow can be harmed in some ways, the discussion was if he could survive anything or if there are things that can actually kill him
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>>552607567
I meant more his conviction to restore the blue sky despite there being no hope to.
I think we're looking at different ideas of insecure.
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>>552607353
Once
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I think i'm tired of shadow and his shitty recycled story.
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>>552608046
But don't you want to play on Radical Highway?
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>>552607704
I'm literally playing Sonic Chronicles right now and I'm having a blast
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>>552608017
He's bulletproof but bumping his head against a door scratches him?
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>>552608085
It's not as "rad" as the name implies.
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>>552608161
He's not bulletproof, only when he's charging Chaos Blast
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>>552568831
>>552607471
SSS actually stands for SSSuicide
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>>552607470
tails isn't cool enough for references to land
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Autism challenge: Please state the difference between (GAME)Sonic and Captain America's characterization
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GUNniggers bleed
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>>552608239
He calls himself the ultimate life form and he's not even bulletproof? He's just an immortal hedgehog with wizard powers then.

>>552608472
Captain America isn't annoying like gamenic can be.
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>>552608423
It's one way to say niggerdow is illiterate.
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>>552608528
is he ok...
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>>552608528
this shitty comic is super overdramatized to the point where it's actually ruining the original
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>>552590262
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>>552608669
No. He blew up in a space station and even if he tanked that 50 years have passed.
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Men like optimization, women like comfort. What do you like?
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>>552608712
>the original
The one where gerald and robotnik have a laser dance?
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>>552608803
i like sonic
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>>552608738
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>>552608803
Mobian women
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>>552569174
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I really want to have sex with Vanilla the Rabbit
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>>552608989
Vector...
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>>552608989
Go to sleep Vector
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>>552608989
ABT...
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>>552609126
>>552606423
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I'm on drugs.
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>>552608989
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>MUHRIA, i'll save you
>*gets shot*
>MUHRIA NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>*gets raped into space*
>NOOO NOOO YOU BASTARDS NOOO OH oh oh mariaaa..... *cries*
>*50 years later*
>Rouge: SHADOW, FUCK ME!
>Shadow: I can't... muhria... *shed a tear* OH MUHRIA WHY YOU DIED...
>I AM SHADOW, THE ULTIMATE DRAMAFORM!
Heartbreaking.
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>>552603919
That's because it's not SegaSonic
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>>552609338
Okay but this is a picture of Fiona Fox who is ten times as melodramatic
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>>552609338
A tale enjoyed by men and women
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>>552609370
Barnes will save IDW. Remove Evan. NOW.
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>>552609338
rougecel cope
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>>552609370
I can only wish Barnes a slow and painful death. I would understand him being a cocksucker because he wants a promotion but he is genuinely a faggot at this point
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>>552609553
cutes
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>>552608989
Delicious
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>>552609601
Westnic bro, just accept your time is not only over, but phasing out.
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>>552609601
Why don't you like Barnes aside from his political stuff?
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>>552609601
Who's not a faggot at this point? Japaniggers don't even remember who the characters are.
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Ian Flynn has successfully killed Western Sonic in the eyes of the fandom and it was all accidental.
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>>552609834
>>552609834
>Japaniggers don't even remember who the characters are.
yes they do
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>>552609543
only archie fiona, which is ooc
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>>552609995
you're not playing devil's advocate again i hope
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>>552610016
Even Ian admitted this. Gamenic would not touch Sally.
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>>552609958
Ian accidentally retconned the possibility of archie Sonic and Sally getting married just to get rid of Tails and Mina's problematic pairing
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>>552609819
Terminally online whinny faggot
Openly anti white leftist propaganda
Japanese cocksucker (likes the fucking manga holy shit)
>>552609684
The only thing I need is a katana to help every japanese purist do the harakiri for themselves
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>>552610121
cope harder westnigger
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>>552610195
I didn't read the manga so please tell me why you hate it. I'm a blank slate.
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>>552610195
Imagine, if you will, getting mad at people for liking the Japanese version of a Japanese franchise from a Japanese company that was created by Japanese men, on a website owned by a Japanese guy and created to specifically to discuss Japanese culture, that was inspired by a Japanese site that's also owned by a Japanese person in Japan.
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>>552610195
>likes the fucking manga
But that's a based trait. If you don't like the manga, I'll be hesitant to call you a Sonic fan since it's very Sonic-y.
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>>552610195
This manga?
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>>552610346
*sex with my sister in the foreground*
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>>552609559
Everyone else is drawn in motion but Shadow is just standing in the middle of the road.
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>>552610340
>Japanese company
lol
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>>552610212
japan sucks west cock for money
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>>552610521
Japanese company
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It's great being a games only fan and not giving a fuck about any of the TV shows or comics and shit so I can't get upset over some freelancer's opinion (that not going to affect anything either! I don't why Daniel Barnes insist on speaking out on fandom issues as if he works at Sega full time)
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>>552610360
There is nothing much to say yet, it just barely started and so far is very generic, nothing interesting going on. But Barnes already said in a tweet Blade of Courage is better than everything IDW has ever written. If I was his coworker I would slap him in the face. Stupid monkey need to learn some manners
>>552610340
>It's Japanese, you have to like it because japanese and japanese and did I tell you japanese
Nigger
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Vault rouge once and for all, she's not a safe character anyways.
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>>552610657
If you're mad at people for preferring the Japanese version of a Japanese franchise you are unironically a massive faggot and deserve to be killed
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No one can actually explain why they dislike the manga without calling it "Japanese slop" or bringing up Sonic X with simplistic or vague wording.
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Being an IDW fan must be rough now because if you actually like those characterizations the writers are getting bullied out of using them, if you actually like those story arcs, the new format of 3 issues per plot has destroyed them. If you like those characters then a game purist will always remind you that they haven't even spoken to "the real Sonic"
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>>552610727
Quiet, haole
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>>552610657
>But Barnes already said in a tweet Blade of Courage is better than everything IDW has ever written.
It is. Are you implying that's wrong? IDW sucks, even the people making it knows it sucks, dude.
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>>552610617
"subsidiary of sega sammy holdings" will never not sound like a complete whoring out.

Whoever signed the contract woth gamblers should get shot.
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>>552610727
>Japanese japanese japanese japanese
Based on a western cartoon between
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No one can properly explain why IDW is good or worth reading besides finding some of the female characters hot.
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>rouge finally appears in a western sonic cartoon
>they LITERALLY just turn her into a sally
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>>552610657
>hate the manga
>but can't explain why
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>>552610840
I can go as far as to say they never actually seen a real game character on their comic's pages except for these lookalikes who act completely different.
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>>552610887
It is wrong, from an objective point of view there is no reason to read BoC (shit art, generic plot, garbage OC) over IDW (good art, generic plot, interesting OC). Only mentally ill people (You) would defend Blade of mid over IDW
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>>552611167
It's shit
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>>552611229
>(shit art, generic plot, garbage OC) over IDW (good art, generic plot, interesting OC).
Please explain these in details instead of these oversimplified statements.
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>>552611326
The kid is just Chris Thorndyke 2.0
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>>552611416
That's it?
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>>552611268
but he's cute...
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>>552611326
Over simplified? I can't explain how generic Yuta is in detail. ALL IDW OCs are better, even shit like Jewel.
And the art being better is self explanatory.
BoC art is simply not good. Clean lineart though
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>>552611462
For me yeah. I didn’t bother finishing the first chapter cuz it was pretty boring.
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Meanwhile, you can probably write a whole book about why IDW sucks. Manga haters can only write one sentence of "criticism".
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>>552611326
nta but what is there to explain, blade of slop looks like garbage, the plot is uninteresting and the character is more boring than Chris.
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>>552611569
I hate this image because this arc isn't about Shadow in any way but it looks so cool that I wish this was an arc about Shadow
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sonic agrees with me.
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>>552611569
>>552611601
>Can't explain why it sucks.
Lmao. Just sit back down in your seats, contrarians. We've heard enough.
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Honestly guys I can understand Evan's whole philosophy behind redeeming Surge. With a mindset like that she has no reason to change her mind.
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BoC is passable if you like Sonic X
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>>552611734
It's just the same anon that hates Sonic X and makes shit up to justify his hate because he can't actually make some good arguments.
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>>552611734
>I'm pretending to be a retard
go sleep
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>sonic thing made after 2005
shant
I pretend Black Doom's invasion was successful and everything after is just a genjutsu
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>>552611867
Why does he hate Sonic X?
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IDW is the biggest sunken cost fallacy I've seen in this franchise. The fans know it's crap, but if they admit it, it means they've payed and followed this garage for almost 10 years. What a grim situation.
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>>552611870
You need it more than I do since you can't explain why you hate it without making these very broad statements.
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>>552610927
Japanese franchise. Japanese hobby discussion site.
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>>552611941
He hates any and every Japanese media, because he's a westfag. Last time I remember, he was saying that the Sonic team didn't have any involvement in Sonic X.
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>>552611964
>IDW is the biggest sunken cost fallacy I've seen in this franchise
There are "fans" in their thirties and forties praying for the return of some Sonic "thing" that existed before 2010 and follow the franchise only for that
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>>552612073
>give reason why I dislike it
>huuuh too broad
maybe you're just mentally retarded
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>>552611804
Same. Its a good thematic plot showing the difference between Surge and Kit and where their arcs can go. Right now it feels like it’s teetering on anti-hero and anti-villain. Sounds pretty cool. Hope the payoff goes well.
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>>552612137
Small Sonic or massive Knuckles?
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What are anti-JP purists even defending? They don't like IDW, they don't like Ian, they don't like Evan, they don't like Barnes, they don't like Penders, they don't talk about the movies or Prime. What do you want? Archie? You mean the thing written by Ian, who you hate now?
Fuck off
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>>552612223
big Knuckles...
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>>552612161
hey that's me
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>>552612234
As there are everythingfags, so too are there nothingfags
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>>552612174
>Ugh, the art sucks and the characters suck!
>*get asked why exactly do you think they suck*
>ALREADY SAID WHY! IT SUCKS BECAUSE IT JUST DOES!
Yeah, go sleep, man.
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Krack and RandomFox should kill themselves.
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It's real nigga hours
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>>552612234
I don't understand how Archie is considered good from a westfag perspective anyways. The early 90s were their own thing, the late 90s and early 2000s were horrible romance arcs with Penders and Bollers fighting over plots and ships. The late 2000s was just Ian streamlining everything about the preboot to be more like the games with a single entertaining arc about Scourge. The 2010s was Sega getting pissed off about Bioware and demanding every major deviation from the games get destroyed along with all the development Archie fans watched and the in-universe genocide of every single Archie OC not made by Ian. There's moments to enjoy but the whole story is actively destroyed. I asked Voicefag about it since he's an Archiefag and all he could say is he liked what could have been before Sega got angry and broke everything he was following the comic for.
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>>552612234
It's just spite because JP Purists are becoming too smug and are too quick to challenge them when they get Sonic information wrong.
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>>552612507
>and all he could say is he liked what could have been before Sega got angry and broke everything he was following the comic for.
potential franchise, anon
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I don't know why people blame Sega for reacting to Archie the way they did. Imagine you get surprised that your mascot spent decades making out with an OC who is completely antithetical to his existence. No company would tolerate that and Archie is lucky it managed to survive as long as it did.
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Pink is the fruity color
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Is AI right about us?
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Western Sonic bros hate it when they are told "Well, in the japanese version" when they try to debate someone because it's always an instant loss.
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Japanese Sonic bros hate it when they are told "Well, in the western version" when they try to debate someone because it's always an instant loss
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>>552612669
>decades
Sonally lasted less than 15 actual issues and they only got married in an AU. Every time they started dating they broke up immediately after except the final time which coincidentally happened after Sega was starting to mandate everything about the comic and they shut it down right after Ian tried it. It was a doomed pairing. Penders hated it, Ian loved it but took his sweet time trying to bring it back and by the time he did Sega wasn't going to allow it.
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>>552612457
Don’t forget Woefag
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>>552612846
No one takes the "western version" seriously, nigga. You might as well cite fanart or a fanfic.
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>>552612480
Dow is not a nigga...
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>>552612716
Of course. Anyone could tell you that.
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>>552612716
>Endless dumps: fanart (pregnant Shadow)
Wft, did I miss it?
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>>552612696
it looks lovely on him...
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>>552612846
Japanesebros win because it is the original information. Westernbros win because it is the translated and widely spread information that was allowed to be published under Japanese supervision
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>>552613024
I think 90s American Tails is way better than segasonic Tails. the first would still have his SA1 moment but would never do that shit
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>>552612931
The Sonic Frontiers script was written first and translated to japanese second, where Iizuka put his headcanons, making the western script the original and canon
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>>552613172
Nothing Ian writes will ever been seen as canon.
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>>552613169
>>552613163
>>552613114
>>552613230
>>552613274
Stop it, the echidna bloodline must continue. You are literally dooming an entire race for the sake of stupid selfish love
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When someone tries to praise or prioritize Flynn's writing here, you just know they're not being serious.
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>>552613319
this echinda loves his hedgehog... the echidnas are alive elsewhere anyway...
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>>552613352
I think I can earnestly try to name things I like about Ian's writing with the full acknowledgement that it's out of character
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mmmh~
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>>552613319
Thats not love thats lust.
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>>552613458
What are they saying?
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>>552613536
>Two men cannot love each other
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>>552613458
STOP
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>>552613458
>ME: IYYAAAAAAA (something)
>Emerald: Seem, doesn't it feel good right here~?
someone could probably do better... I'm not too good at reading handwriting...
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>>552613657
This artist draws nice Silver butts
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>>552613717
Silverbros...?
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>>552613698
see, not seem...
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>>552613698
>Sonucklesfujo learned japanese to read her favorite yaoi
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Only in /sthg/ where fags can drone on and on about lore then immediately bombard the the thread with gay porn
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>>552613905
>porn
where?
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>>552613905
You are welcome
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>>552613963
It's reverse psychology
>noooooo please don't post gay porn noooooooo
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>>552614031
Its lore, then porn. Lore and porn. If there is no lore, then it more porn.
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>>552613905
this is not the only place where people spam gayshit when they get mad when someone point that they are retarded.
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>>552613905
I was on lunch…

>>552614001
thank you for posting the boys with me…
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>>552614076
>If there is no lore, then it more porn
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>>552613172
Kishimoto's script is canon because he made the game. Cope.
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WE SHOULD MAKE OUR OWN SONIC GAMES OF LORE AND PORN
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>>552614247
Some of us already do
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Shadow touching sim
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>>552614476
That one's pretty easy to put together actually.
There's not even an overworld or dialog.
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>>552613772
Did you know Silver back quills are different? They don't come out vertically from the back, they are bent to the sides, making them seem bigger from the front view. That and the fact that his hair also leaves his back exposed means if you, theoretically had butt sex with any of the hedgehogs, Silver would be the best option to not get stabbed by his pointy quills.
He is a hedgehog bioengineered to have easy access to anal pleasure with men
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Shadow... Cute...
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Perhaps that last panettone was a mistake....
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>>552614476
lol ok
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>>552614637
Comparison
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>>552614807
>spending one afternoon with whisper
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>>552614767
What a cute boy. I want to provide for him
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>>552614807
"Behold, little supple insect, the brilliance of my EGG MACHINE!! You too will be formed into perfection as that mutt did. No one can stop the gains from the EGG MACHINE!!"
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>>552615217
do me instead
i can offer:
absolutely no similarities with shadow
thank you for your consideration
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>>552615123
https://youtu.be/fjMqSF3Kvoo?si=C_s3NnyeQGV5yIUl
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>>552615123
https://youtu.be/pYxtAyeRaH8?si=BW9egvUQwOx1bQKg
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Cream could be his new Maria it would work so well
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>>552615123
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z8mQTetmDGc
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Beep
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>>552615702
cuteolin
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>>552615123
https://youtu.be/dEnltCbV-Fg?si=3mC_xF3yMgDwnBBI
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>>552615702
The town bicycle is lookin' good as always.
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>>552616080
She's the most beautiful creature I've ever seen.
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There is nothing weird about wanting to fuck the girlbosses in the Sonic franchise
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I have an idea!

LET'S RAPE NIC!
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>>552615123
https://youtu.be/70hIRnj9kf8?si=OftGQW4MQBRr7QYJ
I like the beat
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so does anyone else just enjoys consuming sonic content for fun or is it just feeding the autism intelligence to be able to have autismo debates with strangers?
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FUCK YOU AND YOUR SHIP!
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>>552616551
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>552616526
Sonic games will occupy my time between year long obsessions with actual autism games.
I just think he's cute.
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>>552615123
https://youtu.be/vwu72PmA3z4?si=9Ew-ZnqnhFBKBB88
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>>552616526
You have no idea how much I autistically love Sonic games
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>>552616251
Nothing wrong about turning a girlboss into a emotionally dependent lover that exists in an erotic of toxic relationship either. I want her and I to get into arguments about bills, call each other names, even smack each other, but at night, ooooo, the tension breaker that'll be I'm tellin' ya.

Lanolin may be a girlboss bitch, but the makeup sex and cuddle sessions she can do is easy SSS tier. It's a passionate love that burns bright.
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>>552616714
What does it cost to run the restoration?
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>>552616551
"Did daddy tell you you could talk back to him like that? I didn't think so."
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>>552616653
poor 'botnik, ruined by 4chuds
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I think Crossworlds is dead.
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>>552616882
If your ship has no palms don't expect me to take it seriously
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>>552616551
My ship is out of character
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>>552616526
i like sonic sonic is cool
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>>552616551
You are my ship anon.
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>>552616882
You actually copy pasted this from a fanfic didn't you?
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>>552617040
i think it reached a slight stabilization but player retention is low, after all who plays a kart race every day?
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>>552617257
Now show Palworld
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>>552617315
>>552617431
You testing out capture cards or something?
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>>552617257
Modders

but that scene feels like it's slowing down too.
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>>552617178

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvERHiTfx9w&list=RDCvERHiTfx9w&start_radio=1

"Nope, it's just the kind of correction the yellow brat needs. Blast one in him, Shadow!"

>>552617041
"I'll show these palms if you don't get off my ship within the next five seconds you little smartass! The Doctor is in and his prescription is Robicization of your weak cheeks. Swatbots, nab this little punk before I turn the lot of you into scrap!"
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>>552617387
HOW THE FUCK POKEMON WITH GUNS RETAINS AT LEAST 50.000 PLAYERS???
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>>552617584
You can sleep with pals now. And the devs had the insight to make that sleeping animation a different, easily modified, file.
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>>552617584
I dunno but maybe Sega should add guns to their games too. Imagine Vigilante 8 but Sonic themed and it can be a racer as well. I'd play the shit out of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfmzFbAZO7I
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>>552617670
oh my... looks like i have reason to get the game now
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>>552617725
Unironically, I think the 90's edge is coming back. I don't think current Sega is ready to lead a trend though.
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>>552617554
oh no! doctor roCOCKnik!
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>>552617847
The haven't lead trends since the 90s. Gotta get people in there that aren't Simps and just want to make fun games that appeal to all ages like they did in the past. The more defiant Sega acts the popular they'd get. Give the racers some guns and other cool weapons instead of making it kindergarten playtime like the Mario Kart games.
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>>552617847
The 90's edge without the edge.
Like the 80's futurism but without the sovl.
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>>552617725
Didn't Sega give Shadow tentacle powers precisely because they don't want to give him guns again?
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>>552617847
>I think the 90's edge is coming back.

and what makes you think that?
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>90s edge
sonic in the 90s wasn't even edgy
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>>552618107
It came to me in a dream.
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>>552618134
You're right, it was straight out grimdark genocidal deportations with the COOL (edgy) SONIC SAVING THE DAY AND FUCKING ALL THE WOMEN.
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>>552618319
Oh right something that only happened explicitly because they did not listen to the people making the games and by Hurst's own admission was written without a single sentence of knowledge of the games?
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>japanese japanese japanese japanese japanese japanese
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>>552618420
and it turned out a master piece. Ben did the right thing
>without a single sentence of knowledge of the games
what games nigga? sonic 2 on the genesis?
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>>552618319
>WITH SHADOW IN A PRETTY WHITE DRESS
this is how this sounds
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>>552618420
>knowledge of the games
Yeah, I doubt that...cause there wasn't much to the games at that point.
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>>552618420
>because they did not listen to the people making the games
The same games where a furest burns and eggman destroys everything he encounters instead of just being a comic relief villain?

Hey, the hero is saving the world from an EVIL doctor, we already forgot that?
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>>552618469
I feel like this is a fallacy. Even on sthg everyone who complained about boom shadow here was coked up on Archie Shadow that they forget that game Shadow has always been a cold douchebag and 06 is the only game to even try pushing the idea that he's grown past that.
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shadow says: i hate women
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>>552618594
Why do people use this argument as if there wasn't a japanese equivalent that clearly has Sonic's character that the americans arbitrarily changed? I'm not even blaming Satam at this point because they were given their resources from Sega of America.
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>they ahd to listen to the games
A 2D running rat with hardly any personality and a simple story?

Archie and satam, and i'm sorry to break it to all the japanese fags, are one of the VERY FIRST attempts to characterize sonic. It's all very classic material with the comics predating a lot of our favorite takes, including my Xfaggotry.
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>>552618319
>FUCKING ALL THE WOMEN.
I don't hate satam but I don't understand the westoid fixation on making Sonic like romance
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>>552618080
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the legit reason.

>>552618134
It was edgier and grittier anything recent Sega devs have made, that's for damn sure.
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>>552618796
>Archie and satam, and i'm sorry to break it to all the japanese fags, are one of the VERY FIRST attempts to characterize sonic. It's all very classic material with the comics predating a lot of our favorite takes, including my Xfaggotry.
Is this bait? The first four Sonic games all had dialogue in the japanese manuals that was literally just discarded by the western branch. You can find people shitting on SatAM over this as early as 1995 on old message boards.
No I'm not randomfox and I don't agree with randomfox, but it is just straight up false to say the early Sonic games were completely storyless. We just did not get the stories over here because they weren't in the actual game.
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>>552618627
Boom Shadow was still OOC.
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>>552618319
I feel like the point more is that the actual people making the games never actually went that far during the 90s. Naka didn't like Satam at all and shut down both attempts to make anything similar to it in the games in the 90s. This is like using the 90s Mario movie as an example of Mario tone. Obviously Satam is good and the mario movie is shit but SatAM was 100% not "word of god" approved.
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i don't give a shit if we haven't hit post limit or page 10
fucking bake
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>>552618929
archie came around right 1 years after sonic the hedgehog came out, though.

So you fags can seethe as much as you want.
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>>552618824
Mobian ladies are hot, man, can you blame the based Boomers and Gen Xers? Sex sells and brings in the guys and gals. Grit and edge also attracts both young and older guys. Just appealing to kids kills a brand over time. Disney knew that before they went soft around 2014 and now look at 'em, they're barely keeping their mega monopoly together will all of the bad press and bomb after bomb. Also, all these gaming companies that bought into the Woke crap are also going bankrupt.

Sega needs to get it's act together.
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>>552619040
I'm not seething though. There is literally no reason Archie could have gotten those characterizations because their contact was Sega of America, not Sega of Japan. Nobody can blame Archie for having any mischaracterization. It's not like they had psychic writers.
That still doesn't change my point. "windinic" existed prior to the very first Sonic game.
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>>552619017
Their mistake then. Should've muzzled Ken Penders and went with it instead of acting like a bunch of little girls. Satam was worth the risk and still is.
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>>552618469
My god can he make his OC look more shitty?
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>>552619096
Okay but why does Sonic's character need to be changed in order to give us the sex appeal? One Piece has tons of sexy women and nobody feels the need to change Luffy's personality so that we can vicariously experience the women through him.
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I don't mind mis characterizations as long as they are not outrageous. like making sonic act like a sissy or giving shadow a happy go lucky attitude
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>>552619123
>Sega of America, not Sega of Japan
Same company.
>but they don't communicate.
Then it's a shit company and the american characterization is as equal as the japanese. Archie never had any mischaracterization.

>i'm not seething
maybe not you but many other do.
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>>552619330
>>552619330
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>when sonic was first released he had no real character and was empty
>that means HE WAS LE WINDNIC ALL ALONG
Deep mental retardation from the average windnigger. You've been getting so many, SO MANY Ls lately your brains are now in full cope mode.
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>>552619280
Sega of America and Sega of Japan are both subsidaries of SEGA which is a japanese corporation. Sega of Japan = / = Sega. They are different entities. I'm not sure what you're correcting
>mischaracterization
this is a semantic debate. Neither you or me hates the american characterizations, but the term here is that they are changed from the source material. They were created second, without permission of the people who made the games and Naka went as far as to say he was Livid in the E! documentary over western Sonic. For the purposes of conversation, that is mischaracterization.
>seething
I agree some people take it too seriously. It's inconsequential and eventually the jp side murdered the western side.
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>>552619246
Sonic's character doesn't need to change at all, he was perfect in the 90s and 00s and even the early 10s. Just don't make him a complete pussy and a punching bag, that's what his side cast is for. You can't just have Shadow carrying 100% of the cool factor, that gets boring and fast and hell, IDW is still making Shadow a punching bag because they don't know how to write neither men or women.

If you want to make very minor alterations to Sonic's clothing design to match scenes and themes in different genres, then fine, but his personality is absolutely perfect.
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>>552618689
Because the Japanese equivalent has been discarded. Sonic isn't Nicky after all.

https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(manga)

Sonic Adventure was a soft reboot. They discarded a LOT of things, not just the Early American canon. Amy and Charmy should feel lucky that they didn't get discarded with the rest of the manga cast.
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>>552619459
Ok, so thy are the same fucking company, you retarded nigger.
EVERYONE ELSE CAN MANAGE THEIR IP except sega, which means sonic's personality from the west is as valid as the japanese one and guess what, even more popular.

I am tired of you people finding excuses and then end up with babynic on the big screen because japan doesn't really give a shit to reinforce anything. Archie was one of the very first attempts and it's casted in the stone.
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