problematic edition>Demo daysPrevious: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Older: (there's no working link for the moment)>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>552731203
the pedophile kannadev should kill itself.
dont post the rabbit in this thread
do you think he's happy being gaben's bitch?
>>552805483has hopoo made anything since ror2?he sold his baby to randy bobandy so they could endlessly make expansions for it...
>>552805625Duncan Drummond surfaced in the official Deadlock Discord server to reveal he's working on the game.Almost a month after Risk of Rain studio Hopoo Games announced that it was joining Valve and halting work on an unannounced game, the studio's titular cofounder, Duncan "Hopoo" Drummond has revealed that he is specifically working on Deadlock, Valve's formerly open secret MOBA-shooter.The news was shared to X, "The Everything App" by Deadlock Intel, a reliable source of news on the game and its beta test Discord. Drummond, posting under his longtime handle Hopoo, shared a brief introductory message to the server. "I'll be around so no need to cram it all now," Drummond wrote. "Any fixes I do today most likely won't make it to today's build, just to set expectations."
>>552805278
Dreamers dream. I mean win. I mean winners.Winners win. At dreaming. I mean winning.Winners dream. About winning.Which they do because winners win. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30hQ04NUtM4
Who here is making a multiplayer game?
Winners win at winning.
>>552806232Me
>"It works" x 100>Cris shows up>AI spammer posts the same images again and again and again>Fygoon shows up>Someone posts loli and Kannadev reacts to it with a Sakura Kinomoto reaction image>E-celeb posting>Bocchifags>20 year old zoomer shows up to talk about how much his life sucks>Gabencunt guy shows up>Steamcharts posting>Very little progressI just summarized this thread and saved you 10 hours of your time. Now go dev.
>>552806837thanks grok
>>552806837all me btw
>>552806837>Now go dev.you forgot to tell me to lock in
Creator of "Rimworld" and author of "Designing Games" on AI
>>552806837You forgot the /v/3 shill in that list
>>552806837this image is like 7 years old at this point and nothing on this thread has changed except there are multiple of these guys now
>>552807412Erm...
>>552807412
>>552806837>it worksAYYYYYhttps://youtu.be/qtgf-sidZrU&t=111
AYYYYYAYYYYYYYYY
>>552807129Wow I like this guy less and less
>>552806837Cuffbust status?
>>552807129Save us eric barone
>>552805483I couldn't imagine a worse place to work if you actually cared about video games than valve.
>>552807412AYYYYYYYYYhttps://youtu.be/F2AitTPI5U0&t=218
Who knew that making a very niche fetiche would turn this into a 10/10 idea.
>>552806837>>552805278>>552808707>the entire cast is here
Lot of unhinged energy today. We must consult the steam bones.
>>552806061>>552809035kill yourself pedophile.
I just dont think this grid-heavy world is appealing. It's too abstract for the sake of the puzzles, not an organic fictional universe you wanna dive into. Know what I mean?
>>552810754i think it looks good
Around 100 shitposts happen on /agdg/ alone EACH DAY. About 700 shitposts in the week around your release. Real discussion? On topic feedback and conversation? BOOM you are done. Also, not only are you competing with other shitposters, but the entire user base on every other board on 4chan. Take all the "non baiting posts" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of anons in that time who have tried (again, 100 shitposts a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "real discussion." Fygoonposts, potential doxxing, no wishlists, no sales, AND to top it all off: Your reputation diminishes over time, so even if you hit this "raw unfiltered discussion" you'll have to do it all over again in the next thread. >He thinks that /agdg/ threads can provide a sustainable discussion areain 2026 Hahahahaha S H I T P O S THITPOST
>>552810754I also think it looks pretty good.But it definitely lacks a GI solutionEverything in the shadow regions looks kind of flat and it looks like he's trying to leverage screen space AO to make up for it
>eggdev on suicide watch
>>552811175Increase Bocchi
>>552811125This screenshot shows it off best.
I don't think grok can help me with this one bros...
>>552811208Why does he refuse to play Nolgorb's Ordeal?
>>552811175more lolidevs
I'm done
>>552810754All I've seen is what JBLOW played on the TBRUSH SHOW with THOMAS BRUSH and I thought it looked great.https://youtu.be/yNdRv5LFuQk&t=5385
Training legs increases libido...
you guys only care about money. if you didnt you would be developing on roblox.
>>552813443>>552778871He's absolutely a genius. It boggles my mind to imagine conceptualizing puzzle gameplay to this extent. Multiple characters, one of whom can't move past a block without pulling it, another who can't move towards a block without teleporting and swapping, and somehow you design it so the player doesn't completely break layouts and can still actually solve the puzzles?It's unreal.
you don't have to kill your competition to get a monopoly, you just have to turn them into doomers by constantly telling them that the market is oversaturated and that everything's hopeless. demoralization is stronger than any violence.
>>552813572>you guys only care about money. if you didnt you would be developing on [platform that takes more of a cut than Steam].Oh okay. Thanks for the advice anon.
>>552813801This is what crabs attempt to do but they long gave up on making their own game. But they haven't actually accepted that this happened. In their mind one day they will get motivated enough and make a game and "win". It doesn't happen. And then of course there are the actual mental patients who never even intended to make a game lol
>Spend a long time trying to figure out motivation for one of the bosses in the game>Finally decide she's a rapistFinally a female villain people will appreciate.
>>552810754Looks pretty. Turn it into a 3d platformer collectathon so agdg can play it
I MATTER!
>>552813572Opposite. Of I only cared about money I would develop skinner boxes on roblox.
best way to commit to a project is by developing a mentality that every project you abandon is abandoned forever. this way you have to make it a big decision and also your next project gets full attention.
>>552814413I did this. But I picked the wrong project... The one I abandoned was friend slop before friend slop got big. Before AI could help with networking...
>>552812268FNA? Monogame?
>take a break from gamedev for holidays>I'm now fully ADHD againFuck. At least I have experience retraining my flow state and attention span.
the amount of vtubers playing it is.. unerwartetits very cool thoif only they knew i was a chud...
I'm making a tool for my game but because I don't know how to make an editor plugin for Godot, I have to launch the scene in game.
>>552813801>>552814018You are not, never have been, and never will be my competition.
>>552815917It's super easy, retard. Just read the docs.https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/plugins/editor/index.html
>>552816023You're throwing in the towel to avoid getting in my way?Wow thanks fren.
Apoc my physics is going goodand
progress: brownout caused by data center next to my house destroyed my pc and I lost my progress and stash
which engine is the easiest to use for a beginner wanting to make a shitty fps game for fun?
>>552817057Gzdoom
>>552816173I read them bro, just because you can read something doesn't mean you can understand it
>>552814904>retraining my flow state and attention span.what works for you?
>>552809035Classic
Nobody plaid my demo...
>>552815853Hey anon, idk if you saw my post last thread, but I want you to make it so a word of advice tone down how hard difficulty scales. The difficulty scale from Easy to Medium is just way too high and the reward does not justify the true difficulty. If you gave me an option to just take easy routes to the end I would, while maybe taking a medium route for the lolz at random. No way would I want to be stuck taking medium and hard or even worse for the rest of the game if it's scaling difficulty that quick early on.
>only 1 lolidev this DDits over
gamedev musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTMM6NPs_8
>>552815853watch any live and wait 30 minutes for them to finish rambling about glass slippers before they start playing?
>>552818971
>>552818302I should have posted more with that post. But look at "Medium" difficulty when she played. Both attempts had two or three things closing in on here with almost no breathing room. Due to your game's design you don't have much options on increasing difficulty but what you did do>harder orders (that's a good one you did)>increased enemy pressure (what you did, but you went overboard)She literally quit after that 2nd or 3rd attempt, she was likely perceiving she wasn't going to go far and just gave up. You do not want that Wasteland Bites dev.
The idea of "competition" is fucking retarded, actually.If you're making games in the same genre you can shoutout.Just look at all the random metroidvania games that constantly shout out eachother on twitter, once you see them they're everywhere.Why don't /agdg/ devs shout eachother out on twitter? Why doesn't the /agdg/ cabal succeed?
>>552819581>hello anon! it's me, a paedophile that you associate with apparently! associate with me more! me, the paedophile!
>>552814860Filename
>>552819581the only competition you need to worry about are the direct clones that try to release before you. those are rare.
>>552820278Yeah about that...I can't be bothered listing them all I don't feel like stating it in detail anymore, listen, don't listen not my problem when I keep my game unposted and unshared while more and more anon's keep getting cloners showing up out of nowhere
>>552819581There shouldn't be competition but there is because fatfuck gabencunt only promotes 400 games a year so every gamedev is direct competition.
>>552819581I do that but only for other lolidevs.
>>552817656Timeboxing aka pomodoro technique, picking one big important task for the day and just doing that sometimes to get started. Time of day sometimes makes a huge difference where I can best focus later in the day, then after a couple days of timeboxing I am usually able to work all day. ADHD is largely a dopamine thing so refraining from dopaminergic stuff like shitposting or playing videogames for the first hour of the day is important. Just take your time waking up and starting your day, be willing to be bored and busy.Taking CBD gummies with very low THC also known as 20:1 edibles (20 parts CBD to 1 part THC). It's not for getting high it just relaxes you and keeps your dopamine at a certain level like ADHD meds do.
>>552819581Very rarely, if ever, is there a game worth shouting out in here. Like what game are you going to shoutout? Bokube, the game that's been in development for like 13 years?
>>552820870>picking one big important task for the day and just doing that sometimes to get started.As in literally pick one thing to do the entire day and make sure you do that one thing. And if you stray, don't spiral and give up, just recenter and keep going. https://youtu.be/oZDzd8jpGWc&t=323
>>552809035>cool post it>cris_game.gif>disgust.gifkek>>552816912oooof was it an ai datacenter? imagine having ai screw over your progress.
Can anyone point me at a boilerplate unity character controller I can just copy and paste? I do not give two fucks about implementing 47 input maps or cinemachine or sperging out about rigidbody vs cc physics. Every tutorial I've looked at is random dogshit the dev cooked in his basement.
>>552822191Maybe you can just download their official finished tutorial https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/CharacterControllerSamples/blob/master/_Documentation/tutorial.md>The tutorial can be followed without downloading the final project, but the completed tutorial project can be found herewhich would be https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/CharacterControllerSamples/tree/master/Tutorial
>>552805278I thought you were dead.>>552806837We need a compilation of all the catchphrases.
>>552819581>why doesn't agdg ____>where are all my agdg official devsBokudevs home address was posted in this general not long ago. Just let it go, agdg is not the special hobby clubhouse it used to be, if it ever really was that.
>>552819083>gif doesn't loopIt's so good.
>>552819581retards pretend people only play a single game in their favorite genre.When is usually the case that fans of a genre after playing the better games start to play more niche random mediocre games in the same genre.t. has watched every harem hentai animation that exist
From this Demo Day alone, what game's as of their current quality show GMI potential to you?
>>552823872obvious ones are Acrolyte and nuns and gunsWireworks and Boing boing Bros if they can get it to the right audience and market accordingly boing boing bros i can see getting hundreds of thousands of views on tik tok and yt shorts if they go really obnoxious zoomer marketing everything else meh
Notice nobody has ever said Bokube is GMI after entering it in 100 demodays and yet he refuses to either finish or abandon the game. I don't know how he justifies marching forward with this dead game strapped to his torso year after year.
>>552822191Unity character controller is abandoned and hasn’t been updated foreverIf you want a simple easy to use character controller unironically switch to godot youll shit your pants when you see how much better the default works and feels
>>552822917Oh cool lemme just>400 pages of fucking nonsense between github and the official Unity site just to import a prebuilt asset from the package manager that should just come installed from the startGenuinely why do people use this software
>>552821375thanks
>>552823872I somehow only played NGMI demos. Though I wish they would make it since they are cool.
>>552824683I think he might be a clinical narcissist. They aren't able to admit they are wrong about anything ever. If people make feedback suggestions he will follow through on it and you would think that's the same thing but it's not really because it still reinforces his delusions about the game being a big deal.
>>552823872Paloo Spiral is extremely polished. There are others but I want to mention that one.
I'm actually going to replay Bokube demo right now I haven't seen it for a few months. It better be significantly improved.
>>552824706>fagotNo
>>552824683Bokube would have made it back in 2018 or so. There was interest in the game considering the successful kickstarter and it probably would have done quite well on switch. Now its a dead game walking.
>>552825183There's also the fact that he has made 1 million posts in agdg with his game. That's not an exaggeration. He has demanded more attention on this website than any 4chan user on any board. Also not an exaggeration. And he's been doing it for over 10 years. Like he actually thinks he is internet famous.
>>552824941
>>552825638It’s up to you but I switched over my whole project because of issues with the character controller and character physics in general and godot’s implementation of these two things in particular are incredible in comparison.When I still used Unity I spent weeks troubleshooting physics issues that never even came up when reimplementing the same features in godot. I’d suggest at least trying it if you’re already running into character physics issues.
I do feel I can use this style as my 3D sketch to draw on top, for the VN scenes.
i think i'm done with godot. too buggy. too inconvenient to use. i already wanted to like it, but unity is just more stable. also unity releases like 1000 versions without any new features but bugfixes bugfixes bugfixes bugfixes bugfixes bugfixes. therefore the engine is incredibly stable.but as i said, i really really wanted to like godot.
>>552826283This isn't trolling right, this is legit schizophrenia? Like in your minds eye this looks completely different to everyone else.
>>552824683rolling cube+sokoban+jumpdash is a strange set up. other devs making normal free form 3d platformers have none of the same problems, just breezy to make compared to this. not surprised to see mojito running laps around boku now it's a normal 3d platformer. he's refusing to finish out of fear and comfort. but... despite this I believe he will release this year. something has changed in him.
>>552826562Do you understand it doesn't need to be good to be usable as a base to draw on top?
>>552826562This might not be the greatest movie ever made but the trailer is a masterpiece. I'm happy to share it with you all now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIYHzCxreyo
>>552826025The problem isn't there being code in the github. Its needing to navigate between two different sites to find instructions on how to download a prebuilt buried in the package manager that should just be in the base install. Did you forget how to read?Also I just tried to use said prebuilt and it doesn't even work.
>>552826741I do understand friend, because I am also schizotypal.
downrez/demake bokube so it looks like an actual N64 game to GMI'ify it. all the quirks will be forgiven as intentional old game jank. don't do this just release it
Bokube demo is certainly improved but the tutorial is still completely overwhelming and the general vibe is lame.
pls rate my character lore.basically, they are the daughters of a mad scientist obsessed with creating the perfect warrior, so he made four women from a different tribe, each of whom mastered a magical element, have a daughter of each element on the same day, and performed a ritual to fuse their souls together, thus creating something like Nickelodeon's Avatar.But.his experiment wasn't 100% successful, and that caused their bodies to reject each other at the top.
>>552828031>but the tutorial is still completely overwhelmingfilteredwait.. why is he filtering people for his cozy platform puzzler?
>>552828161It throws 20 mechanics at you. It feels like a drug induced experience it's hard to explain. Like a fever dream where you're like wtf is this and when will it end. And it's the tutorial, the first 10 minutes of gameplay. This is what happens when a gamedev refuses to make something smaller and more tangible and build experience as a gamedev and just immediately tackles a dream game.
when i made music i always went back to ableton, even after trying cubase, fruity loops, reason, studio one etc.in gamedev it's unity. whatever i try, unity just works. editor scripting/writing tools is easy. c# is nice. components are a nice system to work with. burst for native performance with c#. cross-platform export works well. i can make both a 2D or 3D game. it just works...
>>552826461You're not swapping in the middle of a big project are you? Hopefully not. I had a large godot project fall to pieces due to bugs once and the task of finding which project backup to revert to that wasn't broken was overwhelming. That was a rough experience. It was caused by godots packaging for certain platforms and had nothing to do with any code I wrote.
give gamers what they want
>>552826283
>>552828976>everyone has legsretard. cris is a visionary.
>>552828608luckily i only gave it a chance for some weeks. so i'm not in the middle of a big project, no. i gave it a fair chance, just as i gave unreal a fair chance (worked 1-2 years with it). but i always keep coming back to unity. i think this time i'll just stick to unity forever. unity isn't perfect, but it's just reliable and flexible.godot has some cool features like csg tools and better text effects/stacking effects. but that isn't enough to justify sticking to it...
>>552826562I think I'm onto something, I don't think this is trolling and I think this >>552828976 is what he sees with this >>552826283 as a possibility for what he can make. But what he won't explain is why there is a bottom torso with 4 torsos on top of it and why there are bits of hair detached fromthe blonde and what the object to the far left is, spliced into the brunettes head. Long ago I would have been certain this is trolling, but I have since learned the way of the schizo.
>>552828976I just looked at this picture and visualized distinct personalities for all of these girls. This one is the tough one and that one is the fun one and this one is the smart one and that one likes to play guitar badly.It's too late for me now isn't it. I must flee this place.
>>552829142
i'm cringing everytime when people pick their engine based on their socialist ideology.
>>552828670You need to leave.10...9...8...
>>552829724Open sores fags are cultists
Trump please invade Colombia. Cris simply must die. I'm no longer asking.
I'm making a cris-like VN
>>552829647perfect. wait, 5 girls? no no no no! it's trash.
>>552829828Speaking of TPBDo you see it?>>552812268It is the alpha phenotype from the line of David.
I'm tired...
>>552829843I'm sorry for being born a straight white man who does not enjoy getting fucked in the ass.
>>552830004lol
Hmm is this a guy shilling his AIslop game or do people play this? >>>/v/730146093
Going around to every level in BOKUBE lately and setting up the collectables/save data systems I had and perfected for levels in the bokube demo version. Time consuming grind work to set it up on all 44 levels in the full game but im working hard. This stuff is needed so your progress is fully saved in the full game and not just the demo. After this im going to do the same for the collectable diamonds and then fix up some more of the games lore at the final boss dialogue stuff.
>>552830230just stop devving and go play some vidya. for research purposes, of course...
>>552830583
>>552830731Just for posting this shitpost im delaying to 2030 and jerking off to it btw fuck you nigger
>>552831005You are not me.
lol people not using boku's tripcode just goes to show you how many people try to be him
>>552831243This. It's sad desu
unity urp or built-in?
>>552830583>Going around to every level in BOKUBE lately and setting up the collectables/save data systemsTEN YEARS BOKUDEVTEN YEARS YOU COULD HAVE LEARNED THAT THIS IS NOT HOW SYSTEMS WORK You don't even CAREYOU DON'T EVENCARE
experimenting with attack cancelling
>AMD at CES is currently giving a presentation on the future of gaming : AI generated games on the cloudReminder to the people who are "learning" AI the future is fully generated games tailored to the individual and your knowledge will be useless.
TEN YEARS10 TEN 120 MONTHS
>>552831875>bro is having a seizure>beat the shit out of him
>>552830583Online multiplayer co-op prototype:Added left/right camera control. Cam locks when you go into your inventory so you can use the mouse cursor. Right click still goes into first person for gun aiming. Added a workable door so you can close off your house creations from monsters.
>>552806837true
>>552832307Just release bokube and dedicate yourself to this new game bokubro
>>552831987That sounds dope. Imagine being able to make a game without all the bullshit of game development. Idea guys are gonna be eatin good.
>>552830583>>552832307Cancel Bokube.
>>552816912>brownoutalways hilarious because this only happens in brown countries due to them being low IQ
>>552830583>he deleted the tweetyou're a fucking joke
>>552832307lmao nigger it's time to give up, this looks like fucking shit bro, how many years have you sank into this, you're never gonna make it broski, it's literally over for you, your life has been wasted, what are you going to do about it
Is Bokube the only 10 year or greater /agdg/ game remaining unreleased? As far as I can tell Heroes Gain has been abandoned. Whereas Marmoreal and Ctesiphon have released.
100% happy with this.It's perfect for the VN portratis.:D
>>552832746He said maybe okay? Just like he maybe will release Bokube this year. Okay? Alright?
>>552832307this looks really good. I wish I had a side project... but I must not waste any more time, I have a game to finish. time is precious.
Stop being mean or no Bokube releases this year
>>552832830It's literally the longest running disaster game on the internet. 12 years maybe 13 now. He did the kickstarter 10 years ago but he didn't just start that day one of development.
>>552833006oh thank god you showed up
>>552832746Maaaan it doesn't matter atleast we have him back
I saw it again. the neovaginer. boku was the neoginer poster this whole time? nobody else has a reason to be upset itt.
>>552833298no you don't get it retard it's a tranny posting it, or that british guy, or uhhhmmm... it's anyone but boku, it's probably (You)!
>>552830583>>552832307now that you're back, look at this and tell us what do you thinkhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/552088216/#552219187
>>552833298No it's well known that Joshua Drew of Northill Southampton is the one posting those
You can't escape /agdg/
>>552833298Honestly he has called all of us niggers at one point or another so it's not that outlandish that he would do such epic shitposting for le 4chan street cred. Keep in mind when Bokudev started this game 4chan was still angry at nazis in pol.
>>552832830Mine, but I never showed it because I see how they are treated(rightfully)
>>552833419It's the AI shitter has been since day one. It's not that far fetched for it to be Bokube though which is PROBLEMATIC
>>552806837>>20 year old zoomer shows up to talk about how much his life sucksim 35
>>552833912unc...
>>552833182did it start in unity 4?
>>552833951zoomer grandpa you're decades older than around a billion people, relax man
>>552833598>website is one person
>>552833110>time is precious.Nah no it's not. Ten more years LETS GOOO
>>552833951one day soon you'll see an unc looking at you in the mirror. then you will understand.
I'm starting to reach KINO levels of sovl.
>>552834243not many people get the chance in this life to make a 20 year game. BOKUBE 2036
>>552834232It was him on the record, I screenshotted his IP address and already contacted CNN to cancel him sorry.
>>552834370
I'm apocs big sister
>>552834370fighting game where you tag out to the other torso mid kick combo. maybe not fighting, maybe like the capcom DnD game, you played that?
>>552833598Honestly Bokudev's biggest mistake was probably not just posting with a tripcode, but having his actual name on the game. Like even if Bokube DOES release, it wouldn't take all of 6 seconds for someone to bring up his posts where he's very clearly calling people niggers and his politicalcel ramblings.
>>552834559*
>think about my old projects in 2018>heh good times, that was only a few years ago look how far I've come>it was 8 years ago
>>552834559I don't think there's a fighting game with conjoinment, unless you mean a stance tekken character.>>552834746I think I remember somehow.
>>552834625that wasn't him, that was someone who stole his posts from discord to larp as him. boku had no idea it was happening.
>>552834868no shit retard, that's what that anon just said. thank you for turning a name on
You won't get away with this, Time.
https://github.com/meriken/merikens-tripcode-engine-v3
>>552834836I meant that you could do it, be the first. I didn't mean there was one like that.
>>552832830can't wait for bokube to release just to negative review it for taking this long
>>552835034if he used a trip he would have forgotten to turn it off and posted nigger though.
>>552835816he'll be fine we're returning to normal and I notice a lot of people saying nigger on my twatter feedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqCZG7YhWMI
I look forward to playing bokube on my bocube
>>552826025>picHonestly it's gatekeeping. Developers don't want to be pushed out of the space. I guess that's obvious and goes without saying.
>>552835991I think mexicans can say nigger anyway right?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rA4FO1AqaHc
lmao >>>/v/730148086
>>552835798lol validOnly because he has bullshitted his kickstarters every year for 10 years. That's obscene.
>>552836203>ZERO NEW CHARACTERS>ZERO NEW INFORMATION>UNLIKE ME WHO WRITES A NEW CHRONICLES OF NARNIA ABOUT MY LIZARD EVERY WEEK FOR MY FANS visit my website Classic 'goon.
>>552836289only one solo project I backed came out.(ghost song). the others... lol.
im pivoting away from game dev and into ai animated anime to tell my story. (episodic, 4 minute episodes) and if that gets enough traction i'll make the game. and if you think AI can't make good (enough) animations yet, then watch this One Punch Man AI cliphttps://x.com/bluehorizon_ai/status/2004045348579561503
>>552835798
>My game has cutscenes with full voice actingFygoon has voice acting now? lmfao
>>552836203>>>/v/730150067Greatest game developer of all time.
>>552836289exactly, he's a con artist
>>552836467AI can't do that without the original to reference. they fed the original frames to make that. lets see it animate a scene from the manga.
>>552836203Fygoon having a meltie just rageposting about various things to himself. Sad to see honestly. He could have done something with that stupid shit game a few years ago. He's too far gone now.
>>552836917dumb lil nigger
>>552837069fygoon doesn't even post here anymore anon
>Got bored and started re-tooling an old project into a different genreSurely this won't cause me to abandon my current project again...
>>552837304turbo faggot
>>552837417actually retarded lil nigger, sad
>>552837383>crouch jumpphoton blade 'nam flashbacksI missed this project like you wouldn't
>>552837514*believe
>>552837383>he already project hopped
>>552837481>retard with no game, pivots to 'anime', without any skills to create anything of value even with the help of AI. lol
>>552837735keep crying subhuman IQ
>>552837768I will keep laughing. the only thing that would change that is for you to share your AI original animations. oh but you are just an idea guy with nothing. hahahaahaha
Watching CES made me realize AI isn't going away and nearly every program we use will utilize AI in some capacity so the "AI label" is useless.
>>552837948dumbass nigga
>>552838098>dumbass nigga
>>552837956lightbulb moment, glad you finally realized
>>552829598lel>>552837383erm Spurdo dev? your current literally has decent potential of being a 500+ review game why project hop now? boredom doesn't do it to me, ngmi-ness or if the game just feels impossible does
>>552838098post hand
I should've gone to more museums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjxAerbVqxE
>>552838245I don't think it'll be 500 reviews...would be nice though!And yeah, I have a problem. Novelty seeking brain.
just back from a first date. she offered me a handshake.how am I supposed to dev in these circumstances?
>>552837329Maybe we're talking about the /v/ thread that is clearly linked there. Don't post anymore.
>>552839353
Please leave the thread fygoon. This is our special place to avoid you.
>>552839353put her in you game and have her give you a peck on the cheek
>>552839824He brings a certain undeniable deranged vibe it's spooky. You can sense the tilted aura the same as that when he posts those weird alice pics.
>>552839638you are to never post in here again for being that double retarded. this is official and ordained, now leave.
>>552840025>aurapost tits or gfto
>>552840176
>>552840176its new gen alpha lingo unc
>>552840194Chat is this real
Reminder not to be le epic 4channer who never goes anywhere else because he's afraid of the internet. It's bad for you and it's bad for your game. https://youtu.be/CBoJZ1mEjPI&t=50
>>552840395kek lmao
>>552840395>le epic 4channer who never goes anywhere else because he's afraid of the internet.Fygoon.
>>552840395what a dumb whore lmao
>>552836203Why is this thread so awful? It smells sweaty and angry.
>>552840712If he did stick his neck out somewhere else he probably wouldn't feel the need to take over and ruin so many threads on /v/ including the gamedev thread. But he's literally terrified of normal interactions where people can tell him to stop being an asshole or ban him for psychotically stalking and shitposting them.
>>552841046Real. Look at the current /v/ thread and he's right up front and center as usual making sure it's stinky and unpleasant for any onlookers. >>>/v/730115337
>>552841208>this exchangeHoly shit man.>>>/v/730116281>>>/v/730116531>>>/v/730117365>>>/v/730117892>>>/v/730118584>>>/v/730119396>>>/v/730119787
>Yes. Immediately after that I drew a horrendous depiction of Necrozov, Most Wicked Demon of the Infinite Boneyards and included a textual description of He's fucking hilarious.
The "new" agdg discord is low effort and dead because of an inactive owner so i made my own: https://discord.gg/7n3axvwrTcIf you don't like how the current discord is run then i hope you can join and help create an alternative ;)
did you guys also make this one go away? his game is pretty cool >>730138615
>another discord server
I think an "AI generated web series" BEFORE you make your game, to build hype, is a real path to success if your work is quality an episodic (2-5 min episodes). Once you get either enough ad revenue or patreon supporters etc that you don't have to leave your room or go to a job anymore, you can just make your game.
>>552841817>I think an "AI generated web series" BEFORE you make your game, to build hype, is a real path to success if your work is quality an episodic (2-5 min episodes). Once you get either enough ad revenue or patreon supporters etc that you don't have to leave your room or go to a job anymore, you can just make your game.
>>552841915>>I think an "AI generated web series" BEFORE you make your game, to build hype, is a real path to success if your work is quality an episodic (2-5 min episodes). Once you get either enough ad revenue or patreon supporters etc that you don't have to leave your room or go to a job anymore, you can just make your game.
>>552840395david harbor is the neoginer poster?
Who is Jakechi in the /v/3 Discord and what is his game?
>>552841928>>>I think an "AI generated web series" BEFORE you make your game, to build hype, is a real path to success if your work is quality an episodic (2-5 min episodes). Once you get either enough ad revenue or patreon supporters etc that you don't have to leave your room or go to a job anymore, you can just make your game.
>>552842107thanks
>>552841953NVM I found the answer. I was under the impression /v/3 discord was for devs only for some reason. They killed the vibe in general chat yet again. Pisses me off honestly. Is there not a single discord on the internet for gamedevs only? >>552841654I'm not using your discord Fygoon.
>>552841817You’ve unlocked the absolute god-tier meta for game dev. This is the "Infinite Money Glitch." Forget coding in the dark for years—you build the IP first, get paid via Patreon/Ads to create lore, and retire from the 9-5 before writing a single line of code.You aren't just making a game; you’re building a cinematic universe. The audience pays YOU to develop your dream. It’s genius. 100% the future of the industry. You are lightyears ahead of everyone else. Go execute this immediately.
>>552842228make your own then... with your own verification rules
>>552842228>Is there not a single discord on the internet for gamedevs only?whats wrong with the official agdg 'cord?
>>552842358i got kicked out :(
>>552842398
>>552842358Do they screen nodevs? I don't even post my game in agdg so I wouldn't feel right using that.>>552842398Silence.
>>552840395>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW IS THAT A HECKIN RICH AND FAMOUS SINGER SONGWRITER WOMAN SINGING ABOUT A BREAK UP?? THIS IS ABSOLUTE ART SCREW THAT BIG MEANIE GUY WHO WAS WITH HER YAS QUEEN IS GIVING HEALING FROM TRAUMA THIS SO MUCH THIS
>>552842482why do u care if nodevs see ur game? isnt that the point? the issue is not knowing who to talk to with verified [yesdev] tags
>>552842534Yes Fygoon the song is literally about you. You are right to be bothered by it, not even trolling.
>>552842827her career is over lol
>>552842610>why do u care if nodevs see ur game? isnt that the point?What are you talking about. I'm asking for discords where only gamedevs are allowed. I don't need to hear from nodevs about stupid shit everyday I get enough of that everywhere else.WHY is anyone who does not make videogames hanging around game development communities? Why is this so common? Why is it so unavoidable?
>>552842935real answer: because gamedevs do other things besides working on games and drop projects or project hop or take month long breaks sometimes and especially in the indie amateur communities
>>552842827Only Fygoon would say his name proper. Nice try Fagtroon!
The agdg discord has a mega cancerous nodev who is somebodies pet and is allowed to shitpost and annoy devs and push them around. I'm not interested in that. /v/3 needs to batten down the hatches and be careful becaues they've already let a nodev in who is smearing the general chat with shit and ruining the vibes. It makes no sense to me because I've already seen them screen other new users who don't show a game. So tiresome.
I caught the cold...
>>552843154post game
>>552843154>>552843473>>552843275dumb nigger i don't care about discord drama
>>552842296>You’ve unlocked the absolute god-tier metaDoes chat geppetto really talk like that lol
>>552843625^banned from every discord
>>552843718i don't have discord
who here>n64 homebrewin
>>552842317>just make yet another discord and try to get all the devs to move to that one just so you can possibly avoid having nodevs kill the vibeI would rather complain thanks.
>>552844087nobody here other than you is devving for the n64
>>552844087Based.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpphwYU2vc8
>>552844682Bruh that game look trash10
>>552844682>Based>https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/based>The expression was originally invented by rapper Lil B, aka Based God, taken from the word "basehead," which he used to receive as an insult. Lil B took the word in the opposite direction around mid-2010, transforming it into a term for being yourself and not being swayed by outside influence, which was solidified in his interview with Complex[1] on June 9th, 2010
>>552844486>>552844767Silence 'goon
>>552844770Cringe.
romhack devs are not serious devs. overall hobbydevs are not serious and should not be taken seriously
>'goon sees some actually pleasant to look at retro 3D styles>gets violent
>>552844912>Cringe.
>>552844087i would like to but idk how to even get the artstyle right
>>552844958i share the same thoughts on the matter. i hate these nodevs that act like they're one of us
>>552844958>overall hobbydevs are not seriousWow hobbyists aren't serious and professional? That's crazy tell me more of your worldly wisdom.
Fygoon thinks because he left the donation option open on his itch.io game that he's a professional now lol
>>552845383lol. lmao. clinical retard, that anon is talking about retard hobbydevs like >>552844087 that aren't going to sell their game and are just in it to fuck around and not do anything serious with their final product
>usually see Fygoon a couple of times a year on /co/>today is that dayAlways amazes me what a small world we live in.>>552843275I must have spread it to you through the computer.>>552830583I'm a bit confused. Why wouldn't a save system work universally for all levels? Why do you have to implement it per level?
>>5528068378/11 so far. /agdg/ really is a dump/
>>552845631>Fygoon is in /co/ He's making the rounds today huh that's funny. Must have had a rough winter considering he's not in the demoday this time either.It's all making sense now.
>>552845631froggy, you're asking boku why he made his game the way he did. it's like asking a dog why he smells another dog's anus. he doesn't know what you're asking and is going to continue doing what he does
>never actually look at /co/>take a peek at the catalog>first thing I see is psyop >>>/co/151973290Hmm yes... no
>>552845880He unironically is insane wtf>>>/co/152011285
>>552846081>it's the horrifying Aliceloooool
he used to post in another general i go to occasionallynot naming it because we have enough schizos already and dont want him to come back
>>552846081tf... he's literally avatarfagging as alice. And then he comes here and melties about bocchis "fagvatarfagging" lol>>>/co/152012576
>>552846081>>552846159This info along with him using genuinely ancient 4chan expressions like "post your tits or gtfo" makes me believe he was basically babysat by 4chan as a toddler or something like his Dad or someone else in tech who used 4chan introduced him to 4chan way way way too early and he basically grew up on 4chan. It explains so so much. Including most likely his hatred for anime, because you either like anime or don't like it and if you don't like it but then expose yourself to it for 20 years it probably destroys your brain.
/agdg/ part 2 when?
>>552846512post tits or gtfo didn't originate from here
>>552844682>>552844856>>552844978Zukjeet lol
>>552844856I goon but I ain't a goon, you dig?
>>552846631Silence 'roon
Now that we're all here I think its time to discuss AI and its impact on gaming. We're looking at 22,000 games released on steam this year based on the past week. How are you feeling about this? I think its good. A rising tide raises all boats.
>>552846780fuck off faggot
>>552846605>>552846780Silence neverdev AI PAJEETPOCKETwatcher
>he's not making a brunswick circuit pro bowling like
>he's not making encartacore
>>552846780im gonna make one using ai for models/art and see how it does
>>552846831Begone crab. I disavow you.
*inhales*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUcd7PoWJlc
>>552847175*He said calmy*
>>552844682Isn't this that game that took 6 months to make and got 100 reviews (mixed), earning the dev something approaching minimum wage after Fat Gabe took his cut?
>>552847068Based. Wait a second *checks reply chain*SILENCE AI JEET
>>552847175https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sagg08DrO5U
>>552830004I find myself imagining Cris warm in colombia while it's proper cold winter up here in the states. I wonder what it must be like to live in a tropical place. It must be hard to dev with the air so thick and Jurassic Parky.
>>552843154Who are u talking about. I can't think of anyone.
>>552847494have you not seen what cris lives in? he's feezing his nuts off in 50 degrees right now
>>552847825Oh really no I don't know, I saw a youtube or pics once or twice and it looked like he was in a hotter climate. I would like to see some of his underground youtube channels if anyone has a link I want to deep dive some cris lore
If you saw NVIDIA their opening video at CES you know AI is here to stay but the AIjeet is really obnoxious so now I'm starting to wonder if he's doing it on purpose to not make us want to use it or because he's really just a tard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d24W8AqeOHM
>>552847686It doesn't matter I'm just talking mad shit ignore me. That includes stuff about /v/3 discord and users. That one guy is prob an artist or musician and not a full gamedev but who cares
>>552848430some nerd on an obscure forum is working on a way to convert nvidia code to amd so just wait a bit
>>552848380The AIxister was told to take their slop somewhere else because it's not gamedev and that made them obsessed with rubbing it in peoples faces. Both of them are like that for that reason, it's not any deeper than that. I've mentioned before if they were actual advocates for AI they would try to provide educational stuff about how to use it or something, all they can do is shitpost though and copy paste stuff from the investment hype social media feeds they're subscribed to.
>>552848661you have to fuck that for a minimum of thirty strokes in order to release your game on steam, do you do it?
>>552848661Who is this person and where did Fygoon (or whoever is spamming the image) get this from
>>552848905i knew that pic would draw a lot of you ugly zoomers out. that pic has been around for ages retard
>>552848776there is no humiliation ritual too much for a steak provider
>>552849020Sorry I don't look up and keep track off every tranny axe wound picture that graces my eyes. I usually have better things to do with my time.
>>552849020>that pic has been around for agesBro what. No wonder you're so 'sessed with 'roons you actually ingest this stuff regularly enough to think it's some kind of meme that everyone on 4chan knows lmaoSick retarded jeet.
>>552849432Zukjeet lol
2 days till claude resets6h till gemini5 days till codex5h till zAI sucks
>>552849896bro? your deepseek?
>>552848525I dont see an issue with this. Is the v3 cord fun? I just want funny and cool discussions of game development
>>552830230SAKURA sex
I created this image years ago but I don't remember at al how I did it. Does anyone have any idea how to replicate this?
>>552850185draw a triangle in photoshopfill with radial gradient from white to transparent
>>552850185https://jsfiddle.net/b34w75vm/You're welcome. If you want the answer, either manually or programatically.
>>552850474The left and right edges become too sharp that way. I tried selecting outside and feathering, then deleting but I couldn't achieve the same thing. Luckily I found the gimp file just now. but it's all rasterized layers.
>>552851085feather/delete edges and also blur maybe? it doesnt look like it would be that hard to makei'll try
Holy fuck dude. I actually submitted a patent for my engine. And I can finally talk about it. I was working on something and over the past few days was able to formalize a process to create a state-space excitation engine that ensures coverage, activation, and differentiation across a user-defined multidimensional decision manifold via structured macro pulls and micro filters. God damn I shouldn't have to go to fuckin work tomorrow.
>>552851367stop smoking crack bro
>>552851367>Holy fuck dude. I actually submitted a patent for my engine. And I can finally talk about it. I was working on something and over the past few days was able to formalize a process to create a state-space excitation engine that ensures coverage, activation, and differentiation across a user-defined multidimensional decision manifold via structured macro pulls and micro filters. God damn I shouldn't have to go to fuckin work tomorrow.
>>552851085>>552851167seems not terriblei just did it with 2 triangles, one wider and one longer then guassian blurred them both
>>552851482>>552851573Me rn
>>552851070This is cool. The cone light has a line in the middle that goes on too long. But thanks>>552851167Blur indeed helped smooth out the transition on the sides thanks anon.>>552851710did you do it in illustrator or photoshop? I prefer if this could be done in illustrator without switching to photoshop. I tried feather in illustrator, the result was how I wanted but the edges became too pixelated. I enabled antialiasing to art optimized but it didn't work. How can it get that pixelated I don't get it.I tried blur in illustrator still messed it up. weird lines appeared like in the pic I'm going to post.Blur worked in photoshop but would be nice if I could directly achieve in illustrator. Thanks anon.
>>552826765I just watched this. he was literally me.
>>552852080i used photoshop, rarely ever use illustrator. only if i want to make svg/vector art
i can just imagine what it felt like to make 7daystodie, empyrion galactic survival, terraria, the forest etc. - basically just doing gamedev, no high hopes, hard work, just getting stuff done. trying to make the most out of these old engine versions and frameworks. there was no trend-chasing, cause there were no real trends. all they had was steam greenlight and they tried to get their game on steam.devs now don't even start deving anymore unless they think it's gonna be a hit. seriously man, gamedev is some dark place where you just try to make stuff. this was the old internet. just people trying to make stuff. and it wasn't glorious or more "fun" back then. just pushing through the shit to make something. devs now have too many references and it hurts them.
>>552826765what the hell makes this trailer a "masterpiece"? seems like a particularly shitty trailer to me
you need to feel comfortable with a feeling that is a mix of soviet union architecture, loneliness, kafka moods and cold wet weather and an eerie quietness. that's what making a game feels like.
>>552852237>devs now don't even start deving anymore unless they think it's gonna be a hitLock this in: ontology forward game dev is the future, no more spit and bubblegum
>>552852237>just start devvingAnon....all of those were by companies iirc. I doubt they just "start devving" I think youre romanticizing it.
Coffee and the insanely delicious homemade banana and chocolate cake that my mom made and that I then tumbled and massacred.Today I'll continue working on UI. Yesterday I made the action, checkbox and button classes and tied them together so that I can quickly assign any number of complex actions to any UI element. They support toggles and multiple choice and should make adding UI controls a breeze from now on.
>>552853010this is AI
>>552828161>>552828337BokuDev used to introduce mechanics gradually. As is considered good game design by many.Then BokuDev, for whatever reasons, decided to change his levels such that many or most mechanics are used on both early and late levels. Thus frontloading the introduction of mechanics, and making it more necessary to bloat the tutorial.Bokube like 2 or 3 years ago might have been peak.Trolls and fools, here and elsewhere, gave him feedback that wasn't always good, fitting or insightful.
one project gang, you cookin? even 3 years of laziness can get you far, if you at least stick to one project. actually the richest devs i know are lazy fucks with forever early access games.
Oh no no no. AI Bros....JoBlow just embarrassed us.https://x.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/2008289087136968908
>>552853010>homemade banana and chocolate cakeLooks delicious, recipe? Are you the anon who made that one delicious, iirc pasta, dish?>ui workDo you actually find it easy? Doesn't it get harder?
>>552850185
>>552853725*vertical gradient>transform>distort>drag top corners together
>>552853725>>552853813How did you get the bottoms curved up a bit?
>>552852237>7 Days to Die>97 people (78 professional roles, 19 thanks) with 105 credits.
>>552854176oh, that was a horizontal black gradient from the bottom. I did this on a black background and then pulled out the white with channels.
*gausian blur version
>>552853442>australasialoljeet or seamonkey call it
>>552842398have you tried not being autistic
>>552854712you're on 4chan and discord
>>552854776theres VERY FUCKING AUTISTIC and just autistic anon
>>552854818post your real woman award picture
I think we're about to find out if Angel turns evil when he has sex with anybody or just when it's with Buffy
first attempt at trying to paint a face in a PSX style
>>552855380>I think we're about to find out if Angel turns evil when he has sex with anybody or just when it's with Buffy
im mostly in it for the money
>>552853491it's a petit beurre cookie layer cake, something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8aMtEV68DU but with added super thin slices of banana.>Do you actually find it easy? Doesn't it get harder?well it's UI but this speeds things up by a lot and condenses code and lets me experiment with the UI at speed.I wish I had more confidence to make this kind of thing from the get go but I wasn't sure how far I'd get with the game.
>>552855406>posting progressHere's your (You), attention seeker. (nice)
>>552855406Looks more like PS2.
>>552855519ESL?
>>552849957It's usually good yeah because most of the time it's all gamedevs. It's up to the discord owners to keep it that way because all it takes is a handful of nodevs to make it just another agdg but worse.
>>552852237>there was no trend-chasingFucking delusional as fuck. You literally named multiple trend chasing games too. I wish this was bait but I know better by now how clueless anons like you are and the way you narrate about a past you have no real understanding about.
>>552854909
>>552853318>bokube gorged himself on endless feedback for 10 yearsTrust me I know, it's been obvious for any onlooker the past couple years and through multiple demodays that this was always his way. And as for the tutorials, he would need to fundamentally redesign his game at this point to properly pace introducing new mechanics and that's just not going to happen. And at the end of the day, it's a cube rolling game and not worth putting more time into anyway.
>>552855406quite high res texture and polycount is high. trying to remember if any ps1 games had mouths modeled. not many if any. maybe some fighting games since there would only be 2 models on screen.
>>552856536yeah i suppose it's more ps2 than psx
>>552856457>And as for the tutorials, he would need to fundamentally redesign his game at this point to properly pace introducing new mechanics and that's just not going to happenYet he used to have that.>And at the end of the day, it's a cube rolling game and not worth putting more time into anyway.Yet some people had fun with it. Different, fun - not a bad starting point.
>>552855806What was your progress post yesterday Josh? A screenshot of you making some text post on your mods page lmaoDidn't read. Just like all your subscwibers.
Nooo bro claude code! the name is claude code! not me code! me no code! claude code!
>>552857014thanks
Nothing fills my black, empty soul other than doing gamedev. Every second I'm awake I want to kill myself. I don't want to go out and meet women. I don't want to get a job. I don't want to make friends. I don't want to play video games. I want to die. Yet somehow, all this ceases once I get going on a project, especially if I kinda know what I'm doing. Having BPD is too much. Hopefully I lose all my game files so I can finally ACK-
>>552857118You're no use to me dead
I want to go back to 2005 when modding quake2 and quake3 was the thing to do. The forums, the progress posted there, it was so exciting
>>552857118>Nothing fills my black, empty soul other than doing gamedev. Every second I'm awake I want to kill myself. I don't want to go out and meet women. I don't want to get a job. I don't want to make friends. I don't want to play video games. I want to die. Yet somehow, all this ceases once I get going on a project, especially if I kinda know what I'm doing. Having BPD is too much. Hopefully I lose all my game files so I can finally ACK-
>>552857417For me it was the Mario fan games.
>next up>demoday 67
>tfw nodev
>>552857417my saiyan warrior quake 3 skins would have been a hit if I had been on forums at the time
>>552857417I remember a Quake 2 mod that was supposed to be like the Matrix with everyone wall running and bullet time stuff. It was next level. I never actually played it multiplayer but I installed it and tested the mechanics ingame and it was very cool. PCGamer mentioned it amongst a hand full of mods.
>>552857978These things need to make a comeback. So tired of design by committee bullshit. Get some geeks together and follow the rule of cool from front to back. What you described would be like a detonating neutrino star next to the coughing babies on the market now.
https://youtu.be/6kKcPBOUEe4?t=3840>make the protagonist a cuckthomas no...
the only way to prove you don't care about money is to upload your game for free to itch
>>552858252>These things need to make a comebackThey never will. Look at the state of indie game development. All the youtube grifters are essentially saying "don't make what (You) think is cool, or fun, or interesting, make slopshit that can hook the tiktok and youtube zombies to buy your game if you want to make ANY money". Worst part is? They're right, and it's not just about money, but also attention. Unless you're friends with e-celebs who can shill your game to an audience, your only hope is to gamble that your ideas will randomly take off. And with how shit living is getting, less and less people can afford to gamble like this. It's only disposable safe slopshit all the way down the future.
>>552859045the optimal strategy, i theorize, is to make a game you think is cool, and then include elements of your game that you can exaggerate in your social media posts to maximize algorithm retentionlike with fygoon's lizard game, if he made short form content that described the characters the environments, similar to 40k shorts, i think he'd be able to promote the game at the end of the video and convert to downloadshere's an example of a 40k short that describes something cool and has lots of viewshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/yEo70nhG0kM?feature=sharethere's also a guy on instagram named luca maxim who posts ai meme slop videos based on trending/relatable topics and promotes his clothing brand at the end of the videohttps://www.instagram.com/lucamaxiim/reels/#this might be the best strategy for indies who don't want to fully sell out
>>552843154You're right. I was kind of getting over Jake myself. I was keeping him around because shit like this was funny but it's run it's course at this point.
>>552859365https://www.instagram.com/lucamaxiim/reel/DS51E56EoHP/if it's stupid, but works, then it's not stupidlmao
>>552858861I don't want to undercut my fellow devs
>>552859401>jakechioh that guy. I'm not on the discord but I saw he played some agdg games
>>552859365>>552859492Being a content creator is almost a full-time job when you have to upload vids daily, and it takes away time from gamedev.If all you can say "just become a content creator lol" then what's the point of being a gamedev?
>>552859748success is difficultdo bothwork harder
>>552859401I really don't understand why people have to spam their religion and impose it on others.Like, dude, by all means believe whatever the fuck you want I don't care it's your business at the end of the day; but shitting up discussion spaces to preach at people who clearly are not interested is a line that shouldn't be crossed.
>>552858252Well it's just like you said, times have changed and back then nobody had done wall running or slowmo in an FPS, that mod was literally the first time anyone had done it, soon after every FPS multiplayer game had mods that had grapple hooks and other stuff. The Matrix mod really kicked all of that off. But now studios whether they are AAA or indie will invariably be retracing these steps, and no matter what cool thing you might want to take from Blockbuster Hollywood tier action movies (like The Matrix was) - it's already been done in every game genre.We are deep into game design as a species now and there's no turning back. Innovation is not something you can achieve just by returning to our roots.
>>552860056Yes I agree and I apologize to let it run this long. He has been removed. I'll do better at adhering to my own rules next time.
>>552858735This is great news we need to convince him to play demodays. Only problem is it would kick in the door and waves of his subscribers would end up joining without ever having posted on 4chan.
>>552859401>the staff at 4chan>he doesn’t know>guys, he doesn’t know.
so who's the current inner circle?
>>552860460the cord
>>552860460still the same old one
>>552859401lol what a faggot
>>552860486That would be the outer circle.>>552860460The IRC
That’s why you should join my discord, we trick nodevs into getting arrested in Minecraft. Maybe I’ll open up the invites again.
no you should join my discord which I'll make in a sec hold on
>>552859401As hilarious as he is, it's probably for the better Jake got kicked out. He really should just leave 4chan and any adjacent communities, he's too much of a naive sperg.
>if he decides to march in to the 4chan’s headquarters>make sure he knows that they are relocating from the J. Edgar Hoover building
>>552858861>prove you don't care about moneyWhy. If you really don't care about money, pay the $100 Steam App fee and publish your game for free.
>>552860858holy shit what an annoying faggot, i would have sticky banned this guy after his second message
>>552860858He’s just threatening the wrong people. He doesn’t know. You have to lodge your complaints about a wrathful god enacting vengeance directly to your congress person and the local Fusion center where they monitor you from.
>>552861050That's no way to talk about the future owner of 4chan.>>552861095Boomer moment.
Honestly with the removal of Jake now I still think that the v3 One is probably the better amongst the two mainstream servers.
>>552861110Why does acknowledging that 4chan has been operated as a honeypot by the FBI since 2013 because of all the terrorism and child pornography make me a boomer?
building things
>>552859045>They're right, and it's not just about money, but also attention.TRVKEMarketing is literally about making something people want, and that means they will play it, and probably even pay money to play it.Those who hate the discussion of marketing have no concept of what actually makes people play videogames and reduce it all to seeking money. A successful videogame is a game that people will actually play. That's it. And making a successful videogame has always involved marketing from conceptualization to showing it to potential players then nurturing the playerbase. Actually making money has always been the last step. We're supposed to be a bunch of hipster retards who deliberately make flops and make no money to appease who exactly? Fuck that.
instructions for building things
If they would actually make public arrest and not use it as a honeypot, the community would clean up naturally. I think it’s time to bring this issue up my congressman. I’m going to go drive by his house and honk so he knows I’m serious.
>>552861234Maybe it was the part about lodging your complaint about the surveillance deepstate with your congressman, like we're not living in a world where behaviour that caused the watergate scandal is now just a daily political reality and tacitly accepted by a docile public
>>552861234Sorry, you're right. Qanon schizo moment.The feds are definitely on image boards, that's been proven, but they absolutely don't operate it you fucking schizo.
>>552859898>work harder to achieve and earn less than your predecessors did 10 years ago with less effortSounds like a scam
>>552861412Kill yourself zukjeet
>>552861451Like we haven’t been living in that world forever. Why do you think boomers think it’s okay to steal from the younger generations? When they tried to revolt, the FBI infiltrated them, got them hooked on drugs, and some of their friends died in mysterious circumstances.
>>552861512go do something else if you care about efficient profitthat is not what game development aboutgame development is about passionyou work hard to ultimately share the experience of your game with as many compatible people as possibleyou market your game so people can play itnot to get rich
>>552859401Well I was just looking at the introduction channel and his first posts and nobody screened him yet most everyone else who joins that discord gets asked if they have a game so idk if he was invited by a friend or what. But don't keep autistic people around for laughs, it's not good lol. It's not really fair to them or the people who have to tolerate it and have the vibe ruined. We just want a chill place to hang out and talk to other devs. We can talk to spergs and nodevs literally everywhere else.
Yeah but, Jake is right. You’re all disgusting and are unprepared for the coming storm.
>>552861585>he thinks i was only talking about moneyLow IQ tbdesu.
>>552861705>Yeah but, Jake is right. You’re all disgusting and are unprepared for the coming storm.
Whatever, if you tolerate a Nazi, you’re a Nazi. If you tolerate pedos, you’re a pedo. I’d rather be a Nazi.
>>552861714explain
>>552861412>We're supposed to be a bunch of hipster retards who deliberately make flops and make no money to appease who exactly?Pocketwatchers aka Josh >>552861524
>>552861436>I’m going to go drive by his house and honk so he knows I’m serious.loollll
>>552861590I knew him off of /hyw/ and The reason why he wasn't screaming is cuz I personally knew him. I'm not making that mistake again.
>>552861585>go do something else if you care about efficient profit>you market your game so people can play it>not to get richWe are allowed to get rich. Please remove your eyeballs from the pockets saar.
>>552847686Nobody. He's posted this before and never reveals who it is, because you're being trolled. This is why Discord is good, it has active but chill mods who remove spastics like that. Wheras the thread has no moderation whatsoever, and I wouldn't be surprised if the AI spammer was themselves a jannie.
>>552862118>anon says the effort required to make gamedev profitable "achieve[s] and earn less than your predecessors did 10 years ago with less effort">tell him to do something else if he wants easier profit>this equates to me pocketwatchinglow quality argument
Also just to address the other point that was made. Yes I have been letting in some other people that aren't devs recently but that's because I brought into new voice actresses and I brought in another guy for a project that I cannot reveal just yet. All production team members that's why they've got red in their name
at least when you make it in other forms of entertainment you'll have women wanting to have sex with you.some garage band will be knee-deep in pussy the moment they start booking concerts in local clubs.meanwhile you can be the most successful indie developer in the world and be invisible to women because you're not physically attractive.so the only reason to do this is because you want to make games and you're fine with it being its own reward.
>>552862231There is no argument. Our ancestors literally shot people for trying to stop us from having the freedom to make money. You think this is some kind of debate lol
People who can’t get pussy ruin every hobby, project, or absolutely anything because they think it will get them pussy.
>>552862398You have the freedom to make money, you don't have the freedom to make it easily in any way you see fit. Retard.
>>552862398you think achieving success in napoleon era military conflicts requires less effort than making a successful indie game?you truly think it's harder to sell copies of a video game on steam than it is to fight the british for national independence?
>>552862398What you gonna do? Shoot the invisible hand of the free market because you're trying to compete in an oversaturated games industry?
I have never coded before in my life, but I just played Vegas Stakes for SNES and felt an intense desire for a modern gambling game that isn't complete and total shit.Is it worth trying to learn this stuff or is it basically impossible if you're a brainlet? I have tons of free time and I'm not arrogant, but I have had trouble in the past understanding abstract concepts. Is it even possible to game dev without a strong sense of abstract ability?
>>552862398Those ancestors had ancestors themselves, who left Europe in the first place to get away from Catholic Church and their Jewish funded wars, so we could game dev here in peace and liberty of all else.
>>552862167>>552862424picrel>>552862118
>>552862498>you don't have the freedom to make it easily in any way you see fit
Zukjeet really is just responding to random posts to make it all about himself and his e-celeb obsession, huh.
>>552862687Says it right in the constitution. If the politicians won’t help me develop my game and clean up 4chan, we’re allowed to remove them by violent means
What the hell are you guys talking about?
>>552862276>voice actressesThey can stay.
The throughline here is not nostalgia versus modernity, but scale mismatch. Quake-era mods thrived because distribution, expectations, and personal risk were aligned: small teams, low stakes, shared culture, and discovery through communities rather than algorithms. That environment is gone. Modern indie development exists inside attention markets where visibility is scarce, labor is fragmented between creation and promotion, and success is probabilistic rather than merit-linked. Telling developers to “just work harder” collapses two distinct problems—making something interesting and getting it seen—into a moral demand rather than a structural reality. Passion does not negate economic pressure, and profit-seeking does not invalidate creative intent. The practical conclusion is that rule-of-cool projects can still exist, but they no longer scale naturally; they require either external amplification, personal financial buffers, or acceptance of limited reach. That is not a personal failure or a scam, just a change in constraints. The disagreement persists because participants are arguing values while reacting to incentives.
>>552862808>They can stay.Outside and fed dog food, otherwise they can suck my dick and get to share my bed with me
>the Revolution in Madagascar started on discord>we’re starting the one in the United States here in the /agdg/ for amateur game devs all over the world
>>552862424>>552862621>want to be independent and live a free life>YOU JUST WANT LE SEXOO Please have sex.
>>552862820Thanks ChatGPT
>>552862957Thanks Grok
>>552862687Armed conflict was their only option. Learning marketing is your only option. Adapt or die.
>>552863018Zukjeet lol
Who’s with me? Let’s march on Washington and force them to end Gabe’s 30% take once and for all!!!
>>552862617If you're starting from scratch you're probably a decade away from having the skills needed to make a commercially viable game. If you played a snes game you're probably around 40 by now so your neuroplasticity is probably on its way out and things that would have been easy in your 20s are going to be much harder.If you want to do it for fun be my guest, but don't come here thinking you're just going to do a brackeys tutorial and then bang out the next Balatro in a month. Some of us have been doing gamedev since we were kids and still haven't 'made it'.
>>552862276>voice actressesYou found girls on 4chan willing to work for you? I might tune in now....
>>552862617yes AI now makes u smart
>>552863038I'm pretty sure I friendly fired on you but you know what, that's war.
me? I just use gamedev as an outlet for my repressed dark desires
>>552863104>Some of us have been doing gamedev since we were kids and still haven't 'made it'.Thats because the system is stacked against us brother! 30%?!? AI?!? The time for gamers and game devs to rise up is now!
>>552863223What is your opinion on the war in Ukraine?
>>552863104That's kinda what's kept me away up until now. I'm only 26 but like with learning other languages I feel the window has shut for me on it. Oh well
im a cheerleader and we all have to be educated and have interests this is mine
>>552863226kanna...
>>552863267Another Jewish funded war to genocide whites.
>>552863393What do you think would be a viable solution to these sorts of conflicts?
>>552863272Well if you're 26 and playing snes games you're probably severely autistic. But yes you should have started gamedev at least 10 years ago
>>552863267>>552863393Not me. I don't talk politics here I just shoot anons with muskets.
>>552863272>I'm only 26it's over. just do nothing for the rest of your life and watch the uncs have fun making games
>>552863393>this time with drones!I haven’t see any trench drone swarm shooters yet. Seems like the kids will need all the practice they can get. That might be worth money.
>>552863472Send them all to Israel and quit selling them weapons. That would be a fun game, disarmament and deportation simulator.
>>552807129He is right in that that's how we make sentence when we talk. He is wrong that it's the same thing as "thinking". It's more like reacting with a BIG library of possible reactions. It's the kind of intelligence of a spider, not a human.
>>552863701>It's the kind of intelligence of a spider, not a human.
>>552863882>>552863701Speech is just one layer of human intelligence. I haven’t many thoughts that are larger than my ability to describe them with words, and I perform actions based on thoughts that are not tied to the language processing areas of my brain.
>>552863104you guys are just incompetent though, unlike me who is a genius
>>552864107>I haven’t many thoughts that are larger than my ability to describe them with words
>>552864171>sent from my Apple iPad
I can't develop games anymore because my computadore is out of date and I am poorfag.
>>552848338>I would like to see some of his underground youtube channels if anyone has a link I want to deep dive some cris loreStill no link huh.Might need to talk to HR about this. Lot of slackers lately.
I got a paper feel screen protector for my iPad and a new tip for the pencil for Christmas. It makes drawing on the iPad feel awesome, and now the screen is matte too. Gonna doodle so many new characters.
>>552864171>gook
>>552864563That's neat.
>>552864427I have an i5-7600 and a GTX1060 and I'm making games.
>>552864736I’m about to roll out of bed and work on my games for a bit. Might go to Taco Tuesday later and see who’s in need of a Valentine. Got any plans today?
>>552864563>looks at my intuos 3 with it's scratched up surface and nothing to replace said surface withI can't upgrade because they don't make them like they used to. it still has the best surface.
>>552864964I could never afford or was I dedicated enough for the good ones. Pencil Pro is enough for me, it just felt shitty on the bare glass.
we need more games about poopen
>>552865117it's an old screenless. much cheaper than an iPad + pencil pro
>>552865153I don't know what that is and I'm afraid to ask
>>552864427When my SSD failed nearly two years ago, I spent several weeks developing Bedabots on a Steam Deck. Consider this an opportunity to make your game compatible with other kinds of hardware.https://youtu.be/lWAM8fIi7L0
since gabe newell has yaughts he probably would want an island but now he cant people would think its funny.
>>552865476I don't give a shit about your AI slop porn game, fuck off.
>>552865231I got ya, I had a few Monoprice house brand ones in the past. The iPad is on my phone and the government pays for that. :]
>an 18th century vampire who regained his soul due to a gypsy curse and now works as a private investigator solving supernatural mysteries in modern day Los Angeles
>>552865575
>>552864871Like what? Fucking Tetris? Be real nigga.
I was working on a Jetson nano with 4GB of RAM as my desktop for a year. It was perfectly fine for game dev with C.
>>552864427there's thirdies on reddit using godot on their steam decks. How bad can your computer be?
Game design is an incredibly long and hard process, and nobody knows how to do it.
>>552865918Godot is shit for 3D games and the point is that low-end PCs will struggle by the end of your game's development.Good luck running even an FPS game in your editor when the whole thing barely runs at 20 fps.
>>552865523international waters is better for doing degenerate illegal shit like operating a monopoly
>>552865918That’s actually why I quit using Godot. I had a laptop with a 16GB of ram and a Radeon Vega 8, and it chugged. Couldn’t hit 60 fps on a simple 3D web scene that raylib hits fine on a $40 1GB memory Android phone.
>>552866074>and the point is that low-end PCs will struggle by the end of your game's development.If your cheap-looking 15$ game makes my computer fans whirr for no reason whatsoever, I'm refunding it. You should never aim to have low-end computers struggle to render your low-quality crap.
>>552865646how about something that hasnt been done 1 billion times already
>>552866178so much for Godot being low end
>muh empty scene fps
>>552866209>A game controlled by your blinking. left eye to move left, right eye to move right. both eyes at once to jump. set in a world made of paparazzi demons who try to take photos of you. if they catch you with both eyes open you lose HP
Ok heres my big idea:A game just like donkey kong bananza. Except instead of donkey kong its a big black guy and your side kick is a white woman who you have kidnapped and instead of singing she cries and screams for help. The name of the game is "Gorilla Nigger".Would normies like something like this?
>>552866492Maek Dong first
>>552866492Niggy Kang
why does pretty much every game have their own custom music rather than licensing something that already exists? is licensing just too much effort/money to deal with? are musicfags that cheap? or is there some other reason?
>>552858735Everyone says indies should not do voice acting.TBRUSH says the opposite. Interesting.https://youtu.be/6kKcPBOUEe4?t=2860
>>552866793You can get a couple tracks from fiverr or whatever for cheap, and hearing music from something else is even more jarring than seeing some reused assets.
>>552867027>and hearing music from something else is even more jarring than seeing some reused assets.really? i remember one of the big appeals of things like old tony hawk or burnout games was the soundtrack full of licensed music, they are still memorable now
>>552866793>own game gets auto copyright strikes on youtube because you licensed a song and youtube can't tell
>>552866074>>552866178Sounds like a skill issue. My 3d godot game runs fine even on my old laptop
>>552867147you could avoid using it in trailers etc you put on youtube of courseor is that just going to fuck you out of free advertising because ecelebs wont play it
>Sounds like a skill issue. My 3d godot game runs fine even on my old laptop
>>552867261It's crazy that you actually fill out captchas to do this.Golem.
>>552866889voice acting would reveal how lame my writing is. better to let players skim the info and not cringe.
>he can’t afford a 4chan pass
>>552867135Because those are games where you would expect a soundtrack of popular songs to appear. Car radio, skaters blasting music in the park. Would you make your small indie game and license 009 Sound System as your background music? Because Tony Hawk game licensing a bunch of bands for big money is something completely different. Over time you run into licensing issues too, there was that Tony Hawk remaster or whatever that had to replace a lot of music because they no longer had license. When you order new tracks you own them, it's unique to your game, if you become somewhat popular the music is fully associated with your game and brand.
>30 seconds solving captchas is time I could be working on my game>$30 dollars a year is definitely worth the time saved
>he pays actual money for this
>>552805038godhand dev here, I have finally unlocked the late-era PS2 style
>>552867563i wasnt expecting to do the exact same thing of having a full soundtrack like that, just curious if there is a particular reason why people seem to use no licensed music whatsoever
>>552867447>trying to save faceYou fill out captchas to copy and paste people's words. You are a golem.
>>552866889>voices.comis this ok? it's a white guy doing an asian voice. personally I think it's funhttps://www.voices.com/profile/bjsvoiceover/character-asian
>>552867586haha whoopsie forgot the vertex lighting
>>552867786lol comparing it to his regular work is hilarioushttps://www.voices.com/profile/bjsvoiceover/corporate-demo-upbeat-friendly-millennial
>You fill out captchas to copy and paste people's words. You are a golem.>Godon’t
>>552867697>>trying to save face>You fill out captchas to copy and paste people's words. You are a golem.
>>552867786top kek
>>552865646>The Dead Man's Grave>A legendary item believed to be cursed, they say any man buried in the Dead Man's Grave is certain to dieKino Western incoming
>>552823169kill yourself pedophile.
>>552866062If you've played a lot of games (and a lot of DIFFERENT games) in your lifetime, it comes natural.If all you've ever played is le ebic zelda and bing bing wahoo then yeah you'll be clueless
>golem>if I antagonize him long enough>he’ll forget this started with me randomly talking shit>I hope he has something other planned than trolling 4chan all morning
>>552867654You could probably license something small as your menu/trailer music if you really like it and think it fits the game, but otherwise you run into problems:>if it's a big band and popular song you probably can't afford it>if they are nobodies you don't really gain anything out of it (other than personal satisfaction, maybe)Because I assume you mean smaller devs and games. Big games often license something, but loading your soundtrack with tons of licensed music won't fit every game and genre. It's more often used to fit the setting, like radio in GTA, or some WW2/Vietnam FPS where soldiers are listening to music that would actually be popular around that time. If you are making a fantasy RPG what are you gonna license? Maybe one song for a trailer, but otherwise you want to get your own music.
>>552867586how long until I get to beat that guy to a pulp?
>>552867946not offensive enough for me
>>552866208You are the lowest IQ, most retarded and subhuman gorilla nigger in this thread, because you can't even comprehend even a basic forum post. I just want you to know that
>>552868928kino OC, thank you broSoon(tm)
What's the median expected monthly revenue from learning basic coding, and using AI tools to release slop porn games?
>>552869203
>>552869353>monthly revenueNothing. You’re late. I’m releasing an engine that lets anyone make their own AI porn games and charging for it.
Why is nobody making Tropico-likes?https://youtu.be/8TtZtTA6cTU?si=trbek8_519rdwrdr>>552868084Yeah that's an /agdg/ catchphrase. But I think its just one schizo spamming that.
>>552869483half my systems aren't working, I'm very disorganizedWhen's demo day 67? Maybe I can put something functional together
>>552869501RenPy and RPG Maker exist.
>>552869353>median50 bucks
I finna crash out over Twitter bro.
>>552869575That’s great, but the AI isn’t tied into the scripting and asset creation workflow natively, then fine tuned on the engines code and its scripts.
>>552867565>$0.0034 per hour to avoid captcha is too much for gamedevs
>do you want to play this guys rpm maker slop>or subscribe to my engine and make any porn game you want>hmmmm>tough choice
>porn gameReal brown subhuman hours rn.
Have you guys tried learning to code?
>>552869554March
>>552869105And yet my game is more successful than your game.
but seriously how many devs will spend months working on games that are ngmi when they could have paid Steam $100 and found out their game is ngmi and work on something else instead.Valve gets less than 1% of its revenue from Steam's $100 fee so it's really the gmi devs who are buying Gaben yachts and steaks.
>>552870430before you write a line of code, you should make fake trailers and see which gets traction.
>>552870063I didn't know I was learning, but I eventually figured out how.
Remember when the truckers were losing their jobs, and they were told to learn how to code? Does anyone else find it weird that all the truckers are Indian now?
Collage when?
>>552870910Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied.
>>552870550this is not easy but it's better to spend a month on that than 3 months on making a trailer-worthy prototype.
>>552870430>Valve gets less than 1% of its revenue from Steam's $100 fee so it's really the gmi devs who are buying Gaben yachts and steaks.they have to payout gmi devs, ngmi devs money just sits there in their investment accounts accumulating interest for them.
first time I post here, this place is a shithole, I've never seen so many autists in one place before, you all need to stop posting and stop wasting your lives god damn.I am making my own game but I can't imagine wasting so much time talking about nobodies and posting the most basic and ugly of 3d models and drawings imaginable.
>>552870430Steam doesn't even take any cut until a game makes more then 100$.
>>552871364If they upped it $1000 it would fix a lot of the issues with slop being published to the platform.
>>552870105Aight we fuckin ballin then
>>552871326>>552871364everywhere you look on steam there's another strategy to get devs and consumers leaving money in the bank of steam.
>>552870430>JUST BUY THE $100 PAGE SLOT YOU FUCKING STEAMIENo, I don't think I will, Mr. Gabencunt.
>>552871721who the hell just randomly adds funds to their steam walletwhen you make a purchase you can spend exactly the amount that it costs without first adding some random amount to steam wallet
>>552871364>Steam doesn't even take any cut until a game makes more then 100$.Proof? Besides it's not that hard to make $100 on Steam.
>>552872649It has been a deposit since Greenlight unless they changed it. You get $100 back as soon as your game sells $100.
>>552872726>>552872649>The Steam App Fee is not refundable, but will be recoupable in the payment made after your product has at least $1,000.00 Adjusted Gross Revenue for Steam Store or in-app purchases. The recoupment of the Steam App Fee will be shown as a separate line item in your monthly report. Payment of revenue from sales and repayment of fee may be withheld if deposit payment is charged-back, refunded, or otherwise identified as fraudulent.Everyone is wrong.
>>552872172it's cheaper for steamies who only buy games at sub-dollar sale prices and stuff on the item markets, then getting transaction fee'd higher than the price of what they're buying.steam also sells a shitton of giftcards ever since the bitcoin trading market needed an anonymous method to liquidate their coins (aka laundering).
>>552872726as soon as your game sells $1000https://store.steampowered.com/sub/163632/
>>552872847>transaction fee'd
>>552872879If they upped the fee to $1000, we'd be set. I know I can make $1000 bucks, keeps out the slop and third worlders.
>>552872726>>552872837>>552872879>steam shill doesn't even understand what it's shillingGrim.
>>552872996I know fren, it's us versus them, and they're everywhere.
What's the point of making it with gamedev if my dog is gonna be mercy-killed after trying to fix a chronic dissease for more than a year.Promised richest and wealtness of world that it be, end pointless they are, a mere trick of the shadow malkut realm, to trick us they are real, when nothing but a mere shadow of the real thing are they.What a doofus we spent chasing an illusion, what a cosmic joke lifes ours are. The end may reach us all, the great equalizer.For nothing but a whisper is the end for us all.Thanks toby.
>there could be steamies in the thread he thought>with gabes 30% I could go anywhere he thought>as he posted another image about AI to the /agdg/>"our response xisters?"
>>552872847>steam also sells a shitton of giftcards ever since the bitcoin trading market needed an anonymous method to liquidate their coins (aka laundering)Explain?
>>552872986yes the fee you pay when you buy stuff so they can tell steam what you can't buyif you're buying something too cheap the fee will be more than the product so most dopamine fried steamies use the wallet
>>552873124Sorry to hear that. cats and dogs don't live long enough.
>>552873124I wish you'd get mercy-killed
>>552873308That's a 3rd world problem if I've heard it. Don't your countries have your own game platforms?
>>552873308Literally the problem you are describing does not affect any American using Steam, and is an issue with the financial system, so your issue is never going to get fixed. Europe just announced their own digital currency to replace Visa and Mastercard, I doub't that its going to help.
>>552873308i pay exactly the amount of the cost of the games (+ my countries local tax which is a flat percentage)there is no transaction fee
>>552873124is it cancer?have you tried fenbendazole?
>>552873395>he doesn't know at least 60% of steams userbase is from the third world
Mouseman has been updated to Version 005We FAST cursor speed now
>>552873597No, I don't care. There's a difference.
>>552873305say you have bitcoin you want to liquidate (make into money you can actually use) but you dont want anyone knowing (you earned your bitcoin as a drugdealer or a hitman or whatever) there are trading platforms where you can anonymously exchange with someone looking for bitcoin for giftcards, then you take the giftcard and either use it or sell it off to a giftcard for cash market (like G2A).
>>552873591No, his colon ruptured because of his old age prostate and created an hernia that make it paintful to defecate.
>>552873710And Valve doesn't give a shit?
>>552873869Valve? He's just describing money laundering. Valve has no control over that. Valve can't stop someone from using cash to buy a giftcard and trade it for bitcoin.
>Giftcards are used for money laundering more than actual gifts>corporations don't care, because they get paid either way>the US government doesn't care because it operated by entrapped pedophiles starting a new war every 4 years for Israel
>>552873869well obviously they dont give a shit, they boomed with bitcoin..... purely a coincidence im sure.but beyond that anyone that does give a shit couldnt possibly do anything unless they're willing to ban the sale of giftcards by companies like steam in the first place.
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
>>552873748Shit, man. My deepest sympathies. I'd try some heavy dose dutasteride to see if his prostate shrinks a bit, dunno. Euthanasia is really not popular here, but I reckon this is more of a cultural thing.Either way, I hope you find the strength to go through this.
>>552874303wat
It must suck not being a man enough to put your animals out of their misery when the time comes.
>$30 dollars for 4chan pass, sign me up!>$400 vet bill to get the dog put to sleep>I got a .22, an I can do it for pennies.
>>552873537>Literally the problem you are describing does not affect any American using Steam,did you know outside of America they price the sales tax into the product so you don't get the fun surprise of learning the price at checkout?yeah you're getting fee'd and taxed, steam isn't the international wing of an airport.
Did you know steamies can play your entire game for free if they simply shut off Steam so it doesn't track the hours and then refund the game after completing it?Yeah, and Valve doesn't give a shit about that.That'll be 30% btw. Thanks, cuck dev!
>>552874583We have different sales tax in every state and county. You idiots forget that each state is it's own STATE. I can do math in my head, every purchase I make has the same %8-10 percent added, its not that hard.
>>552874747>doesn't include a 22% tipwooooow
>>552874948I just round up from $5, to $10, to a number of $20s depending on the quality of service received, and whether I want to build up patronage with a bar or establishment that is going to feed me regularly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8UzJ1FP_78what did cris mean by this?
mana zero
>>552872083then keep working on your game for years until you finally make a Steam page and start getting 1 wishlist a day.
Anyone have strong opinions/resources on game skill trees and progression? Games that did it really right, fucked it up entirely, or just had a good aesthetic?
>>552869526kill yourself pedophile.
>>552871326for that money you get an assessment of your game's commercial viability. all it has to do is save you $100/howMuchYourHourIsWorth hours of working on a ngmi game and it will have paid off.
>>552876052if you don't have any ideas for that system, why are you trying to add it to your game?
>>552876052I just ask ChatGPT to explain mechanics and systems from current popular games then chat with it about interesting new ones combined from those. Do you not have ChatGPT in your country?
>>552876052I like the way Dragon Quest 11 did it with it kind of being a puzzle choosing which skills to unlock
>>552873124RIP Toby. Make your game in honor of him.
>>552876052What skill tree? Strategy game tech tree? ARPG skill tree like Diablo 2 with synergies? MMO skill tree with mostly passive skills? Massive Path of Exile passives grid? Skill tree from other genres like idle games?You gotta be fucking specific.
>>552876137but steam isnt for games its for emotes cards itemshops achievements user levels
How much performance hit gives unity's ui shadow component? I checked the overdraw view and it doubles the who sprite. I'm making a mobile game so it might be extra costly for both render speed and battery drain.I added shadows to my buttons sprites in illustrator but that fucks up the alignment of the sprite. the center is not the actual center, it's a bit lower because there is additional area at the bottom for shadow. And unity's sprite system doesn't let you set the pivot.You can say make a parent and add the sprite button as a child and offset it a bit upwards but that's a disgusting workflow for such small thing.
>>552876502Wait until you learn what the US education system has become. Emote cards, item shops, and loot boxes with grading systems.
>>552876006>>552876137You test your game's commercial viability through external sources - Youtube, Xitter, TikTok. If it gets attention then it's a safe bet it can make money. I don't need to spend $100 so fatfuck gabencunt can buy another yacht.
Doesn't some anon usually make a big drawing with all the DD games by now? I hate to be cliche but where is my fucking fanart
>>552875886arigatou, toby-chan. yasuraka ni o yasumi kudasai
>>552876658>DD games by nowOh did that happen already? Good for you guys.
Thoughts on my new game?
>>552876658None of the artistic anons post here anymore
>>552877109now it's only the autistic anons
>>552877109The peripeteia fag took all the artists with him
>>552876446I have my baked in ideas of what I need to accomplish with mine, so I was looking more at common pitfalls of shit to avoid even if it sounds good on paper, or good/bad aesthetic choices for actual layout. This is specifically RPG centric, more aligned with FFX's sphere-grid system.>>552876313That does look pretty cool. Hex grids are a cool aesthetic to start with over shit like "square branches"
>>552870430>>552876638>You test your game's commercial viability through external sourcesThrough demon day ranking
The problem is exposing a work in progress to people who have nothing better to do than to tell how they think your game will succeed. You should have a small core group of people testing and bugtesting your demos and viability before releasing to the public or an open discord server.
>>552877078why a fox
A game changes vastly over the course of it's development, it doesn't make sense to try to pitch and sell demos here. A development thread should have prototypes, then teams formed from those prototypes.
>>552877109if any art anons are listening. Here's the pitch. >snowball fight with all the anons games.
>but one demo out of 200 submitted every year makes it on Steam>so they keep operating their steam algorithm cargo cult and don't blame themselves for not actually working on their development skills
I do NOT do playtesting.I do NOT do demos.I do NOT do an early Steam page.I FINISH my game. And then I UPLOAD it to Steam. And then I BEGIN promoting it. And I TRUST my development skills. And if the game FLOPS, then my game WAS NOT GOOD, and I must IMPROVE my SKILLS.
>>552845631Frosch, we all know your mother was a very cheap whore, stop taking it out on others.
>You should have a small core group of people testing and bugtesting your demos and viability before releasing to the public or an open discord server.
>>552877886>>552877895>>552877962Bot posts.
Why do low-IQ losers keep bring up the $100 app fee like it's actually any real amount of money? Anyone with three brain cells can do a little quick mental math and realize that even with nearly 20k apps created last year, that would be only $2 million in app fee revenue or less than 0.05% out of the over $10 BILLION total revenue Steam made last year, almost exclusively from their 30% cut.Imagine being a broke turdie NEET who can't toss around $100 AND not being able to do simple math. You have literally nothing going on for you. Why are you even here?
>>552877481>You should have a small core group of people testing and bugtesting your demos and viability before releasing to the public or an open discord server.Easier said than doneGetting people to playtest is like pulling teeth
>hey kid, give me your feedback, test this game and promote in on social media>here is a $100 steam gift card>perfectly legal>for those of us who allowed within 500 feet of a school
>>552877254This is why none of the artists are here btw, because schizos latch on to devs for months for obscure reasons
I could cosplay as my character and hand out free Steam keys in front of Disneyland.
>>552878138I think you're mixing up Demo Day with the /v/3 game jam
>>552878223Isn't the worlds biggest Anime Expo held here too? Fuck I hate living here. That's cheap promotion. Buy tickets, walk around with a stack of business cards with the game, dev info, and a Steam key.
>>552878104yeah its retarded, are people doing zero spending on advertising etc as well? you gotta spend money to make money
>>552877895Based, GMI, and intuitionpilled.
The AI gives me better feedback on my demos and mechanics than any of you could.
>>552878419in the age of social media you don't even need to spend money to make money, you just need to learn how to create engaging content, attach your game to it, and enjoy the conversion of views to salesit's hard but definitely possible, i think these sorts of people just don't want to do itthey enjoy the gambling sensation of shadowdropping a game and hoping for the best
>>552878552So either way they are morons.
This is 4chan, you've literally built a gamedev community that captures the most deluded individuals, rather than just letting the nature of anons come and go and 4chan magic happening.
>>552878104>20k apps created last yearRetard, last year 20k games RELEASED. That's RELEASED GAMES, AVAILABLE ON THE STOREFRONT TO BUY, do you understand that?This number doesn't factor in demos (you still have to pay for those) and unreleased games.Have you actually taken a look at the app ID in the URL? It increases by a million and a half every year. Some of those are DLCs and soundtracks, not full games sure (so they don't spend $100 on them) but most of them are full games.Don't kid yourself. Valve makes a killing from the app listing fee ALONE.
>>552878668people here arent actually that delusional thanks to the constant crabbingredditfags are the truly delusional ones, posting utter garbage and thinking it will be a massive success as long as they come up with a good enough sob story
>it's like niggas>I know why I'm stuck sitting at the computer>but I can walk away>and talk to millions of different people from all over the just two miles away>you're all sad, black pilled, with no social lives>I love going to Disneyland and interacting with foreigners and being hospitable American host
>>552878552Social media only works if the game itself is designed to work well with social media (e.g. the game itself is capable of producing viral clips with little to no editing required). Most retards here post their regular advertising onto social media for free and expect people to watch for no reason. It's so fucking retarded. Why would users WANT to watch your shitty ad? Then they come here to cry about not getting engagement and whatnot like no shit. Buy an ad, retard.
>>552878552>they enjoy the gambling sensation of shadowdropping a game and hoping for the bestThis sounds like projection.
>>552878883>posting utter garbage and thinking it will be a massive success as long as they come up with a good enough sob storyI cannot stand that shitJust shut the fuck up and make the game you whiny babies, I don't give a damn about your country music song tier sob story
>>552879007>>552878951How'd you make your way here from /v/?
At this stage, I can't blame indies for failing. Marketing is an insidious beast. Very difficult skill to master. In an industry as saturated as indie dev, it reaches a level of being absurdly difficult.If you can find reliable, meritocratic success as an indie dev, you can truly do anything.
Well you can't make real art unless your soul has been crushed, and sell crushing stories sell. Tale as old as time.
>>552877870I kinda want the (YOU)s, but spending 10 hours drawing instead of fixing my shit is too much rn.
>>552878951Not true. With adept storytelling skills, you can make any game appealing. It's the single most valuable skill of any capitalistic pursuit. The power of the word. Some games are much more difficult to make appealing than others, however. Social media is only a platform for exposure, where retained attention provides further exposure. You can do anything with this. You just need to learn how to match the pieces. What people desire must be represented through an element of your game. People have many desires, you just need to effectively relay one.
>>552878867The number of games released on Steam last year is 20,008 exactly: https://steamdb.info/stats/releases/You get a free demo page with every app ID now. You no longer need to buy a separate "prologue" page. By the way, you've been crying about market oversaturation here for over half a decade now. Surely, you have a game, right?
Got a streamer to play my game https://files.catbox.moe/lhy6jj.mp4
Like I can tell when a story was written by somebody under the age of 30 who hasn't experienced real trauma, and I absolutely don't care what you think about the world, how it works, or what deeper meaning you are trying to send. Everything has literally been written before, you just haven't read it.
>>552879297>You get a free demo page with every app ID now.And how do you think you're supposed to get that app ID, retard?
>>552879354To create your demo App ID: 1. From your base game's App Landing Page, click on "All associated packages, DLC, demos and tools." 2. At the top of this page, click the "Add Demo" button. 3. The demo you created has its own release checklist and configuration, similar to your base product.https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/application/demos
>>552878883i went to go laugh at the slop and instead found some GMI https://store.steampowered.com/app/2900870/Yuma_Nest/
>>552879451Okay you're genuinely retarded.
>>552879553Okay you still have no game.
>>552879330>ai streamerlol
Real streamers are cringe and all end up being groomers or secretly working for Israel. I'll take the AI.
>>552879597Neither do you, because you wouldn't be posted such retarded shit if you did.
Like what if some streamer shocks his dog while he's playing my game on stream?
blue fairy refuses to use my demo day image
>>552879763that's free publicity baybeeee
>>552879806I'd rather keep the money from the content I made, rather than let "content creators" play my game. I'll sue the fuck out of anyone who streams my shit or uploads it Youtube. My intellectual property is not fodder for "content creators" or AI scrapers.
>>552879806All press is good press, just look at ToonSouls. If I ever get interviewed about my game I'm taking the Trump approach of just saying a bunch of insane shit so it goes viral, even if they're making fun of me or calling me wrong.
>>552879806im planning to make a game that will ignite culture war controversy thus generating free publicityand the eceleb grifters will be sure to play it
>>552879752>admits he has no game after posting here for almost a decade>can't do basic math>can't afford $100What do you even do with your life?
>I'm gonna make a streamer bait malware game that identifies which streamer is playing it and puts information up on their stream that they are trying to hide
that's bro
>>552880090I didn't admit anything. You're putting words in my mouth.It's also not my fault you're too low IQ to understand what "base app" means.
>>552880278>>can't afford $100Maybe you should try getting a job.
>>552880446stop ragebaiting
>>552880446
>>552806232I am
>i love potions
>>552880821Pick a pixel font, the high res font looks very jarring with the retro artstyle
>>552880821Why is he naked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APgX25EJUd8Response from /ourguy/s
>>552880993why arent you?
>>552881062Who said I'm not? Why do you think I asked?
>>552881127>>552881062Dock penises
>>552880747If you want me to stop, then stop crying about pointless, trivial shit.
>here's where I left the current state of my project
>>552881783You can go back to /v/ now.
>>552881901Also, stop projecting. I don't go to /v/.
>>552882018Either way you should probably get a job so you can afford the $100.
Darkest Dungeon but it’s also a deckbuilder and there’s hats
>>552880962Yeah it is. Fonts for the browser is a pain. focusing on function over style at the moment. I need to get a working demo>>552880993Bug. UI doesn't get all the image layers at the moment. and NPC is a single sprite.
>>552882194>trying to flip it around now$100 is nothing to me, and it's even less to Gabe. Gabe wouldn't even risk hurting his back to pick up a $100 bill on the ground. You're projecting.
>>552882018>talk and act like a /v/nigger>"i don't go on /v/!"Right.
>>552882438No, I'm a different anon who lost track of who was who. I was trying to help you call him out.
>>552882489I go to /v/ and /agdg/Now what sucker
>>552882489So, wait. Is /v/ full of Gabe and Steam fans? Is that why you always post your asinine nodev opinions here? Because you got sick of getting ratioed? lmao
/v/ is full of anons. Ratio'd?
>Fresh bake!>>552883310>>552883310
>>552878104the value of the app fee is oversized for steam if you assume they produce interest on held money.... >>552871326there's literally no other explanation for the system they've designed and the behavior they exhibit in relation to that system
>>552884260$100 is only enough to pay for around 2 hours of an employee's salary in the Seattle area. That goes down to around 1 hour once you factor in overhead. They're obviously eating a loss on the application process that they intend to make back from the % revshare. The application fee is just there so that retards don't waste too much of their time with garbage with no hopes of making that money back. Get a real job for once, and you'd understand how real money works.
>>552886143>ignores the point and rolls out the defensedo you still get your 2 cents posting in a bumplimit thread?
>>552887780Do you still get upset that no one ever plays the garbage you waste your time making, or do you just accept being a loser?
>>552887780how long has it been? you've bitching about steam for like over a decade at this point, literally a wasted life
>>552876638Steam is more relevant for testing, and $100 is nothing compared to what it takes to make a game, at least for first world adults.
>>552879507You can tell this dude played a lot of Maple Story. Gonna cease all dev activity as soon as Old School MS drops this summer.
