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new thread, same tub

>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

last tub: >>552749436
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tub of shitile 2
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the tub of comparison
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Bad OP
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>>552856027
retard
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Join Talkative Tri's private Poopa2 league!
It's free!

https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/Second+Wind+Fate+of+the+Vaal

Or else...
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poe2 is dei slop
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>>552856027
op is better than poo2
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>agdq shows poe2
>dead hours
>tranny player
>shitter
>no loots

Kek. You just love to see it.
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>>552856391
he wasn't a tranny
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>>552855797
retard
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>>552856505
'fraid "they" were
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is monk good this league? thinking of trying one. voker or chulupa the go?
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>>552856628
coc invoker ice wolf
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>>552856505
>he wasn't a tranny

If you speedrun you're automatically a tranny bro
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>>552856676
so ben_ is a tranny
good
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>>552856725
and a roach!
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>>552856725
>>552856781
KEKAROOO
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>>552856725
>so ben_ is a tranny

And racist. Never forget that.
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>>552856671
Is it just a cast on critical meteor that i see all the other temple runners using? i'd try it as long as i can get giga energy shield, life sux (im a titan main lel)
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>if you become too fast wasd is unplayable
good game ggg
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>>552856828
someone based and cringe at the same time... is this possible?
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>>552856872
Titan user here. You'd have to go out of your way to use ES since the nodes for ES are in the upper left /upper middle while Titan's nodes are in the lower left. Might as well stick to Armour / Life bro and Bear slam for temple clearing
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>>552856628
Voker 6garillion % such strong nodes all-round acolyte of cringe-chula is in a bd spot

Don't go hallow palm it got nerved into oblivion heaven forbid we can punch things in a viable manner on the martial arts character, it hurts
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pob????
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>>552857050
crased
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>>552856071
>5k signed up
>less then 2k for pohx's league
poo1 players really can't stop losing
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>>552856071
>>552858028
HOLY TRIGODS
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>>552856628
the classes are well balanced and most stuff is viable. chalupa is apparently still worse than invoker though.
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>>552857624
ggg are never going to let you just not use a major item slot in a game in an item-dependent gear grinding game.
the mystery is why they don't just let people have transmogs to make it look like they are punching things while really using a qstaff.
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>>552857624
>Voker 6garillion % such strong nodes all-round
what does this mean? im new to monk
whirling assault looks like fun. and falling thunder
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ice poison pathfinder spear throw
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>>552858576
The invoker ascendency has almost all good nodes you can take depending on how you want to play them, unlike others which typically have 4 or 6 must-takes and the others being meh
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chat
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Whats the OP S tier starter endgame build
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>>552859134
tactician stormblast bolts
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>Chris if you release one more video like that you're getting the belt
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Alkaizer complains about the PoE 2 passive tree everytime he can, is he right?
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>>552860257
it sucks
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>>552860257
Yeah it's all generic increases
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I'm sorry but how is this still not fixed. It's been bugged day 1. It's been 1 fucking year already. That's just inexcusable, what the fuck happened to GGG. Why are they so fucking lazy holy fuck.
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>>552860257
>50% upside
>200% downside
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>>552861494
it's been like that since they added expedition to poe1, the locker helps but it can still happen. still occasionally happens with the crafting bench as well.
idk why they haven't added the expedition locker yet, it should have been added day 1.
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after finally trying d4 I found out the real truth:
its literally poe2.
granted the itemization is far less shit as its char focussed instead of just pull the lever and hope the gacha gives you a good drop, but besides that? same shit
maps and dungeons are far bigger than they should be, becoming tedious
rollsloppa
it wants you to comboshit to deal damage
immense focus on mtx garbage
gameplay has been assfucked so that you feel crippled if you dont use a controller
same amount of endgame kek
its absolutely, completely over for isometric arpgs.
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>>552862194
retard
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>>552862191
I never had any issues with the poe1 locker. Yeah I know the crafting bench bug, that happens very very rarely though and can be fixed by zoning in and out.
This shit however is just not working at all since day 1. How?
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>>552862194
so you're saying that the complaints about poe2 maps being "too big" is just blizzard astroturfing?
thanks for the tipoff.
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>>552860257
streamers want the passive tree to matter more so they can present themselves as build design gurus.

ggg want items to matter more because items mattering is what keeps people actually playing the game.

that conflict of interest is the real reason for ALL streamer complaints about the poe2 passive tree. no exceptions.
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>>552862664
>streamers want the passive tree to matter more so they can present themselves as build design gurus.
the poe2 passive tree is much better because it bridges the gap in your gear, as it should.
the poe1 tree is way too strong and basically allows you to zoom through the campaign and early maps without paying too much attention to your gear
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>>552862194
the similarities between the two end at having top down perspectives.
d4 was an attempt to make a weird mix of arpgs and korean mmorpgs without actually understanding either genre.
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>>552860257
Poe1 tree is shit you just spent 5 points for nothing so you can get that op mastery or node that turbo boosts your build. You need inverse pen, you need leech, you need suppress, clusters, life, op keystones. Its the complete opposite of what he says. Levelups in Poe1 feel useless until you get to that next powerspike but in Poe2 every levelup allows you a small boost. Once you are higher level you can just do large respects to customize your build in a meaningful way. In Poe1 this doesnt exist as you never want to spec out of the above mentioned op nodes so at the end you have at most 10 or so points to customize your build the rest is the same on every class.
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any fun merc builds that isn't permafrag or galvanic sharts?
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>>552863179
siege cascade
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>>552787203
>>552787353
In hindsight it's silly that they claimed they slowed the game down. The slowdown comes entirely from the campaign taking longer and having practically no movement skills to scale. Damaging skills clear screens just as fast as they do in PoE1 with the exception that in 2 every attack build can fit in a screen clearing herald combo.

I think GGG failed to implement itemization and scaling mechanics that would've worked for a slower paced game. It sort of reminds me of D4's launch that initially gave the impression of a slower pace but once you hit endgame it was revealed to be the same as D3.

In PoE2 at basically any level the difference between bad and good items is like a 1000x damage multiplier.
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>>552863815
they never once said the endgame was designed to be slow. they said they wanted new players to feel like the campaign was a complete game and they wanted bosses to be more mechanically interesting.
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>>552863148
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Why is every ability spear has reliant on frenzies? Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
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>>552863313
link to this build?
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>>552863148
you're so close, but not quite there
poe1 tree is bad because the best way to build is ignore the tree and path to all the cluster jewel slots exclusively
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>>552864973
>https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/fubgun-1755/FubgunWait
meanwhile in PoE 2
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I m gonna have a first date with a woman in an hour.
builds for this feel?
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>>552865349
good evening saar
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>>552865319
that adorned jewel costs 3 mirrors.
do you really think a 10+ mirror build is representative of the average poe2 build?
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>>552865794
Regardless 2's tree is dogshit. You just path to Crit Damage nodes or ailment nodes and call it a day. It's not interesting at all.
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>>552866004
so every build isn't pathing to jewels?
>y-you uhhh spec like damage and uhhh defenses on the tree so uhh thats bad.
fucking retard
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>>552866212
every specific build WOULD be jewels if it was more affordable
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>>552866212
It's just not good. Cry about it.
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>>552862194
People will lose their mind about it, but D4 currently has more build diversity than PoE2.
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Should I go
>galv
or
>armor piercin
?

Also which asc
>pathfind
or
>witch hunt
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>>552866280
It also has better skill synergy and more interesting gear. PoE 2 isn't that much better than D4 and that's depressing
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>>552866330
find a way to make a 1 button build with armor piercing rounds on pathfinder
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>>552858725
>throw one spear
>it hits one mob once
>applies one poison for 0.2 seconds that deals 10% of the white mob's health in damage
nice build
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>>552866509
that describes bleed more than poison
poison is really good right now
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>>552866275
you were the retard who brought it up.
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>>552866651
Brought what up? The fact that the endgame tree is nothing, but jewels and crit damage. I'm not using Adorned and my tree isn't much different, retard. Keep making excuses though.
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>>552863179
there's various nade builds, mortar cannon, armour piercing, stormblast, the ignite shot I forgot its name and probably more that I'm not thinking of right now

crossbows are in a really good state though galvanic is maybe a bit over the top still
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RELEASE DUELIST NOW
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>>552866648
poison is good only under very specific circumstances

basically you either abuse the spear that allows you do to infinite stacks by spamming spearfield or you use a skill that has an insanely high damage multiplier to stack a couple strong poisons

you can't just pick a random skill and do poison with it
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>>552866849
Hope he gets a weeb ascendancy
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>>552866474
I'm not sure if it will do bossing but clear for sure. Bossing might come from gas.
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>>552866691
>I'm not using Adorned and my tree isn't much different, retard.
you are trying to copy an adorned build without an aborned?
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I can't help but click on every spoiler image and then everytime it's one of those low effort jonathan ai posts. It shits me off everytime
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>>552867603
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>>552867603
retard
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>>552857332
>she doesnt know
some titan “main”
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>>552867664
I also clicked on this one, you're alright anon
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imagine how shit dagger skills are gonna be
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>>552867603
jeets love ai and hate poe2, expect it to ramp up once it goes f2p.
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Hi my trans friend is playing at the GDQ for this game. It looks really fun
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>>552868212
fuck off
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>>552868264
What is your problem?
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>>552868212
>It looks really fun
appearances can be deceiving
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>>552868212
poo2 is made to look good not to be good.
just like your troon friend is made to look like a woman, not to actually be a woman.
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>>552868412
why are you so rude to your fellow anon?
who hurt you
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>>552868467
you're conflating honesty for being mean. nobody sees a troon and thinks they are what they pretend to be, not even you. you just pretend to feel better about yourself
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>>552868602
nah you're just mean
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>>552868683
one could argue that you are mean, you are pretending and lying to your troon friend. and lying is mean.
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>>552866849
I'd rather not have him if he's gonna look like this
>>552866971
duelist and swords better have a katana subtype so I can use them on shadow, even better if there's a 1 handed one
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>>552868720
I'm not even the anon with the troon friend
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>>552868212
>poe2 campaign speedrun
>34hrs
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>>552868801
butting in to other peoples' conversations is pretty rude, mean even
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>>552868801
are you a troon? well then i got news for you: everyone who treats you nicely is just pretending and thinks you're an abomination
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obama could make poe2 a more enjoyable game in 1 week than jonny could in 3 years
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>>552859134
>>552859461
seconded. crossbows are best starter endgame.

>>552862664
totally agree. op passive tree keeps you in PoB.
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>>552868856
>>552868891
you guys are so defensive about being called mean, you say mean things and think you're good people
pretty pathetic ngl
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>>552868997
you're pretty good at baiting anon
but baiting is mean
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>>552868997
nobody is being defensive here, tranny. all i am trying to do is be direct, open and honest with you, not out of spite but out of respect for you.
anyone who is nice to you to feel good about themselves doesn't respect you.
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>>552860257
the fundamental design of the game is:
>flat stats on gear
>% boosts on tree
>multipliers on gems
there are obviously a few exceptions like amulet has % defense stats and such.
but yeah he's just retarded, each part of the character feeds into itself as opposed to poe1 where you just get 20 more multipliers on your tree/gear and call your 10 life wheel tree good.
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>>552862664
career streamers should all be rounded up into concentration camps
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>>552869107
I don't think you really respect anyone anon, I'm a male btw with a functioning dick
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>>552862664
>ggg wants you to play for longer
also
>ggg doesn't care about how many people keep playing
which one is it poo2rists?
the tree should matter more because it's what you get for leveling up, more points. if leveling up doesn't even matter why the fuck would you grind?
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>>552869264
i respect other humans enough to not lie to them or deceive them just so i can feel a bit better about myself. validating someones mental illness just so i can feel good about myself is not a sign of respect for that person, it's a clear sign of disrespect.
can you say the same about yourself?
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>>552869286
huh guess what else you get for leveling up? better gear and gems!
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>>552860257
yeah its pretty bad its basically

top = ES
right = projectiles or attack dmg
bottom = lol skip
left = lol skip

thats the tree
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>>552869487
yeah but that ends at level uh... 81 i think.
that's not exactly playing for a long time.
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>>552869430
>not a "live and let live" believer
yep, just not a good person
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>>552869563
who said that? i don't forcefully interact with them, especially in real life i avoid those people like the plague.
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>>552860257
what is his complaint? i know he thinks life should be on the tree and ofc I think that's correct because i'm not a retard.
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>retard keeps interacting with the baiter
retard
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>>552869748
>implying it's not 2 baiters trying too hard
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>retard poster vague posting about other retards
retard
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retard
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>>552855797
DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2
NO NEW ACTS OF EXILE 2
NO CHALLENGES OF EXILE 2
NO ENDGAME CHANGES OF EXILE 2
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>>552870132
do people really want more acts? i feel like acts are the worst part of this dogshit game
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>>552870197
interludes are better than acts, so the game will get worse when A5 is added.
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>>552870197
that's the only redeeming factor of the game since endgame mapping is fucking dogshit
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>>552870132
Jonathan, another trvke has hit the tub
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>>552870278
yeah that is 100% true, the interludes feel the best out of all the pre-mapping experience, because it actually feels like what you do matters and you progress through things at a reasonable speed
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>>552870132
PATH OF ES 2
PATH OF LIGHTNING ARROW 2
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it's funny, when people say they want "endgame changes" they mean the removal of the endless atlas, but we all know that is never gonna happen
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>>552870197
GGG should just nuke their "endgame" and go the grim dawn approach of making the campaign encompass everything
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>>552870521
surely that will go over great with the autists that love grinding poe1 for 1000s of hours a league
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>>552870132
no 40/40 challenges for 2 years is fucking crazy to me
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>>552870521
how will a game like that be "played forever" and make money with mtx?
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>>552869947
we're all retardposter now
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>>552870878
retard
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>>552870132
It is truly over. It is truly over for:
poop 2.
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>>552870521
When you finish the poe2 campaign Alva should tell you the cause of everything is in the past...Then you have to play the poe1 campaign but you start at level 70
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>tower not connected to anything
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>>552871057
2 GAMES
1 TUB
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>>552870197
campaign is the best part of the game

endgame only works for tinks per hour autists
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tip: if you corrupt 160 threaded light woven focus, you'll make on average 30div. if anyone wants to do some digital serfdom without playing the game.
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retard
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>>552871785
you do realize that autists is the target audience for ARPGs like this? how many times are you gonna play the campaign before you never boot up the game again and move on?
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>Reddit gets account hacked
>he's played 10 hours per day, every single day since TotA league
>lost everything
So jealous...it could've been me bros...I could've been free.
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>>552871813
>buying 160 items to make 30d
im good but thanks
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>>552871852
I'm still playing through diablo 2 like 1-3 times per year

I don't think poe2 has that sort of staying power but it could if it were designed better
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>make game in genre that caters to autists
>make game not cater to autists
genius move
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Unless you want to try the nu charm or you've never played with Temporalis before I don't get why you would farm currency. This isn't even the "eternal standard" official realm it's just the stinky "beta standard" realm.
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>>552871890
post it so I can laugh
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>>552871813
How many times can you repeat that before the market is empty or the prices shoot up so much that there's no profit to be made?
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>>552872029
could it be that you do that because it reminds you of your childhood? i also loved playing d2 as a kid, and i still love it right now, but i can acknowledge that if it came out today i wouldn't touch it
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what is this game
is it some kind of roguelike where you can die and reload?
how long does a "run" take?
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is there a list anywhere that shows which uniques are t0 and t1?
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>>552872061
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1q4oxf7/account_hacked/
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>>552872143
>but i can acknowledge that if it came out today i wouldn't touch it
that's a weird take

d2 has aged extremely well for a game that old

yeah it has issues with build variety and stash size but the gameplay itself is pretty good and the old graphics still work

but also mods
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>>552872305
i am not saying it's bad, i love it. but i love it because it's a window in the past, not because it's a good game that held up perfectly.
it does show its age, and if d2 came out today without nostalgia it would simply not succeed.
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>>552872278
what a retard
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>kill atziri
>get the quiver
I got shit loot didn't I?
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>>552872437
I disagree

the very act of clicking enemies feels good in d2 and a game that feels that good to play would succeed even in today's market
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>>552872158
poe as a roguelike your starting class and tree are completely randomized and every map is more or less a single hallway would be kino
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>>552872158
>what is this game
a huge tub of shit
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>>552871146
I thought you dislike towers
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>>552873178
old tower mechanic shit
new tower mechanic where you can skip a bunch of maps with them is passable
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>>552873374
Only 1000 more for your next upgrade
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>>552873374
ooh a penny!
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>>552873812
Why would I need to upgrade my character? I'm flying through my temple. Only reason I play is for fun and to maybe drop a mirror.
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>>552862664
>ggg want items to matter more

pfffhahaha
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>more mid league nerfs

what the absolute fuck?
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>>552875045
jon ate a lot over the holidays, so naturally the tub is going to spill a little
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>>552875045
Jonathan is a liar
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>>552863148
>>552869145
>want to get leech
>not a single leech node on the tree
>need to waste a suffix on gear on the game called Suffix Pressure 2
>how do you do that then
>idk just spam exalts on bases or buy it in trade
excellent system
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>>552875045
that mod was making the reverse chill build unkillable
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>>552863148
>Level breakpoints that are immediately felt on your character
vs
>endless 3% increases of nothing
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>>552875045
Jonathan's vision... clouded in brown...
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>>552875045
fubgun
tubfun
tub fun

really makes you think
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>>552875045
Please someone kill Troonathan IRL. Please...
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>>552875648
how do you get 100% effect? I thought it was 70% with stormweaver
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>>552876184
I don't think it was 100% but it was reducing damage taken so much that it was tankier than anything else in the game
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>>552876489
whoa.. it could survive two hits instead of one.... so op...
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the tubification continues
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>>552875045
UNINTENDED FUN INTERACTION DETECTED
NERF DEPLOYED
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>>552871813
almost every unique in the game is profitable to either id or corrupt. you can buy 11 unidentified laviangas spirits for a total of 1d, get 1 max rolled with 70% on average and sell that alone for 4d.
temple farmers dont want to price items individually
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>>552876048
fubtubbed
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>>552872305
The gameplay is just Vampire Survivors with loot and button pressing...
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Just delete 0.4 and memory hole it
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what does Bex think of poe 2?
>>
when will they add cool looking mtx shields on the shop
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Does armour explosion do zdps or do i do zdps?
>>
when will they drop the "all mtx will carrry over" promise
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>>552872184
theres an incomplete one on the wiki which uses tribute costs as an indicator of unique tier https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Guide:Analysis_of_unique_item_tiers
unique tiers in poe2 arent as steep as in poe1 though. i farmed the temple a ton and i honestly cant tell what is t1 and what is t0. my vibe based unique rarity tiering is
>t0
alphas howl
rathpith
kalandras touch
hh
>t1
vertex
covenant
hyrris
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Bros, does anybody have an idea how I can effectively fill the middle with a final snake? I know the set-up isn't great, I started the temple when things were way less figured out and never bothered to fully reset it.

https://sulozor.github.io/?t=ACJIIjAiSCIwIjAxEikRKRIxSCJpAACYAHloIkhwMWkAanAyMCJ6InBqcAA5IjCASAAAAABgSCJxIQAAAAA5Ikh5SAAIMWgyMCIwIgAIMCJIIg
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>>552871890
I'm sure he claims he never RMTed.
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>>552872061
>>552872450
TL:DR He was botting and got bit
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>>552872134
maybe three times. i got my 14% roll and left.
>>
sneed
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i caved and bought d4 pally to see if it was worth all the hype. it wasn't. i was bored within a few hours and i've already reinstalled poe2. simply the better game.
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>>552880716
great story bro, sadly we both know das a lie
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>>552880716
You were supposed to wait for the expansion that's when the good stuff is being added. Rumor is they are copying maps big lmao if true.
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Temple printer anon, are you here? How much rarity do you have on your runs? I've increased mine from ~500 to 700 and it feels like my drops went down.
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>>552881179
You need either 500% or like 800%+. Between that divs get converted up to annuls so you drop far less of them.
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>>552881817
>Between that divs get converted up to annuls
What
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>>552880912
no lie, I for real already uninstalled d4 and am hopping back on Poe 2 to work on my blood mage plant build. D4 was load in, go to the seasonal quest spot, level 40+ times in a few minutes because other players are just constantly summoning and killing azmodan for huge exp, gamble the uniques I needed for hammerdin, and hit t4 a few hours after creating the character. The playstyles I tried out for hammerdin weren’t that fun and I wasn’t interested in aura stacking or pit pushing so I sanctified a weapon and called it done. People think the poe2 endgame is bad have no idea how good we actually have it.
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>he is a jingakh
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>>552881817
when the fuck are my divs getting converted to a mirror though
i have like 1500
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>>552880912
also the paladin stuff is a buggy unfinished mess that they desperately pumped out before the holidays to take in that game awards money. if you attack off of your mount your weapon disappears.
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>>552882624
fubgoon only runs 500% so I assume your setup is inefficient
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>>552882674
and yet it mogs poo2
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>>552869713
I bet he is butthurt because muh life on tree. Fucking retarded gook
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>>552882963
my temple drops 50 raw divs per run and another 50-100d of uniques but where are the fucking mirrors
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>>552883580
can you post a pic of your layout?
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>>552883580
Sure little brownoid sure it does.
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Does anyone know what happened? I was in the middle of a t15 tower and like 60 maps dropped after nuking a crowd of enemies.
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>>552883962
rare monster converted all of its drops to waystones
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>>552883962
conversion mod that changed all the mobs drops into one item type. one of the cancers made by archnemesis
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>>552884072
*gasp* really, that is what happened? no way
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>>552883962
This is a hack and i'll be banning your account imminently once i cross reference your life and energy shield totals
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>>552883953
its this, the generator and extra golem are only temporary. might redo a bit to get a generator - thaum - corruption chamber 3rd chain but im not sure if i can sustain 3 locks

>>552883747
ive blogposted an excessive number of screenshots from it
1 >>552815653
2 >>552820609
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>>552884072
>>552884107
oh ok, thanks
>>552884323
uh oh
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>>552884323
GO SHIT IN A TUB YOU FAT FUCK
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>>552884406
I genuinely wonder if Jonathan really expected this could be done.
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>>552877564
low iq take
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>>552877142
kek
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>>552884843
Anyone mentioning VS and comparing it to ARPGs haven't actually played it nor have they played D2.
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>>552884724
they don't test content so no
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Jonathan Exile
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Reminder, if you're not using at least 1 Andvarius you're literally playing the game wrong.
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>>552884724
LMAO, they dont test shit so this wasn't expected at all obviously
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HEY
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JONATROON ROGERS
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tub of shit.
tub of shit. two.
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YOUR GAME IS A BIG SHIT
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>>552885609
based and raritypilled
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>>552885609
Factually correct.
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>two giant games
>hyper giant content each three months
>hyper community (real players)
>hyper streamers (not real players)
>games are vtuber's favorites

we won
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path of exile 1 is a great game
path of exile 2 is a good game that given time will reach the same level of 1

stop doomposting, stop trying to kill both games

Poe1 2.0 tourists are a fucking shame that never experienced how shit the game was before
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>>552887454
>path of exile 2 is a good game that given time will reach the same level of 1
>Please let it cook and simmer for another decade PLEASE
Thank you Jonathan.
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>>552887454
>please shit directly into my mouth jonatroon. I don't care how long it takes
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>>552887584
>I never had to type /oos every 5 minutes in Poe1
>I never had to run the same fucking acts 3 times in a row to get to maps
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Poop 2? Vile stench
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PoE2 is only one (1) year old. And it already has the content and the quality of a 10 years old game.
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>>552888070
lmao, does it though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVdpOCxRwj4&t=6026s
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>>552888279
Literally not the same game at all. The "PoE2" of this era (your video) was merely PoE1.1
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WASD in Poe1 1.0 would have made it a better game than 3.27 is.
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>>552888459
>a sad shell of an action rpg
kind of fitting for poo2
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>>552888549
wasd is dogshit for games like this and we all know it
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I don't like poe1's skill linking system so poe2 is automatically a better game in my eyes.
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>>552888549
WASD only makes sense for rollsloppa
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>>552888573
most people who play poe1 now assume the game was always like affliction or settlers, they would hate poe1 from 2018-19.
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>>552888549
I think wasd in poe1 will be a mistake, too many problems and ironing them out will just make it poe2like
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>>552860257
Yes he's 100% correct all these poop2ers are coping. The tree is absolute dogshit
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>>552885609
this but I put Death Rush on almost every build
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they should port harvest in 0.5
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>>552888946
poe1 was pretty good in 2018 and 19, it also had way more content than poo2 back then.
poo2 will never have good content, because ggg tries too hard and can never produce anything good if they try. shit's only good on accident.
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>give me my wasd
rollslop controllerdads
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>>552889673
Which one? The OG version that they tried to bury or the abomination that we have now?
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>>552889563
>andvarius = rarity = hard to obtain
>vs
>death rush = player power = easy to obtain
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>>552889740
shit's only good on accident AND is nerfed in under 3 weeks. WELCOME TO THE TUB
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>>552889929
the build a garden mechanics minus the crafting part
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>>552889673
They will merge Harvest and Delve next league
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they were so careful not to give too much good shit in poo2 and they slipped yet again, and now they can't undo it.
can you see them panic?
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>>552890154
No way, we're getting more OG jonatroon slop thrown together extremely quickly because they "just couldn't fit it all in" in combination with the endgame overhaul (if it doesn't get delayed again).
3.28 is definitely getting delayed too.
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>>552890154
delve's already fully in, it's the atlas.
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i have a feeling that when players say "endgame overhault" they mean "removal of the endless atlas" and when ggg says it they'll just shit up the endless atlas with more rare events and make it even worse
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>>552890381
but saar they're nuking the atlas next patch
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>>552890554
1) endgame rework psotponed again
2) endgame rework won't remove the endless atlas or change the core of it
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>>552890538
ggg already said it was a rework of the atlas passive tree.
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>>552890538
>YOU VILL RUN THROUGH 5 SUN TEMPLES AND A SEEPAGE TO GET TO THE ONE (1) SANDSPIT
man what a shit design, if it stays it's truly over.
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>>552890691
Really? no changes to the atlas? just the passive tree? I think people will quit en masse if that's the case.
I certainly shant be playing until they remove the dogshit atlas
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>>552890691
yeah but players keep hoping they'd remove the endless atlas, which they will never do
>>552890698
picrel
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>>552890852
no one cares if you stop playing the game guppo.
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Only trannies play with WASD
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>>552890942
you cared enough to reply dipshit
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>>552891045
sadly not playing with wasd is almost impossible in poo2, because it gives such a huge advantage... one can dream
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>>552890873
>bandaid fix to avoid the core mechanic of the endless atlas, which is to not always be able to choose your next map
great design there jonatroon
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>>552890852
were you actually under the impression that the endless atlas was going anywhere? it's here to stay until way after 1.0, they might do some reworks but the fundamental system is here to stay.
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>>552890873
should be applied by default. i fucking hate jonatroon
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>>552889009
That's a good thing.
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>>552891329
well per their own admission the endgame was just "a temporary solution" that they "quickly threw together", so yeah I was under the impression that it was a temporary solution that they quickly threw together.
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>>552891303
not saying it's good, but you don't have to run 5 sun temples or seepages
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>>552891543
it is a temporary solution that was quickly thrown together, but the whole theme of not getting to freely choose your map layouts is here to stay. it fits with poo2 and how it seeks to spite players
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>>552890852
The endgame rework is a new pinnacle, readding towers, a bigger atlas tree, and changes to breach/delirium/expedition to integrate them with the endgame quests.
Anyone thinking that the infinite atlas is going away is delusional.
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Do you really think it was quickly thrown together? The whole map thing has a lot of assets
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the infinite atlas is shit
its just not good
its only redeeming quality is looking nice, a reoccuring theme in poe2
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>>552891543
>>552891742
why make up such retarded nonsense?
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it's almost like 95% of people working on poo2 are some sort of artist, and they are asking an artist to design a gameplay mechanic
it ends up looking pretty and having shit gameplay
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poe1 trannies are still unable to cope with having to run more than one layout
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rushing to make an endgame just for the sake of getting player retention is a mistake
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>>552891753
>>552891825
i dont know why people hate it so much, as the leagues add new mechanics the maps will have so much variety of content that it wont need some weird overhaul that people are clamoring for. At some point the content ends and youre just running maps in any arpg.
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>>552891936
are you really this delusional? what do you think will replace the endless atlas (aka delve 2.0)?
they said in 2019 that poo2 would have (a version of) delve from the start. this is your version of delve.
the part that's quickly thrown together is the layouts and special events you can get, they'll expand on them, but the foundation is here to stay.
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>>552891742
>>552891753
>>552891825
>>552891842
it's so, so fucking over.
endgame will remain dogshit while the atlas exists
no fun endgame = why even bother
maybe fubtroon has another nuclear melty so that his gooners can convince jonny to spend another year reworking this garbage
i skipped this league hoping 0.5 will remove that shit but i guess it's over
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>>552891825
That's what they said though. Well "temporary solution" but the idea they put so much effort on something that will just be replaced is funny.
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>>552892064
because it forces you to do chores to do the maps and content you want. running seepage or sun temple or other shitty layouts will never be fun, and getting forced to do so is is inacceptible
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>>552892064
One symptom of autism is a severe dislike for a change in one's routine. The poe1 turbotists start freaking out if you ask them to do anything but run their favorite layout on repeat for hours on end.
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>>552891963
name 1 reason why you should be forced to run a random map layout
please
1 reason
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>>552892237
i think you misunderstand what part of the atlas got "low effort". map variety and content is the low effort part, they only had breach, ritual and expedition at the start.
the whole atlas layout and how you run maps, that part got quite a bit of effort, and it shows. sadly it's shit.
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>>552891936
>he didn't pay attention to tubathon's release statements
it's all still out there somewhere for your viewing pleasure
>>552892134
this isn't comparable to delve, this is just nerfed mapping
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>>552892214
you skipped the league where you dont have to engage with the dogshit mapping. that will never happen again. its over.
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>>552892390
Variety is good, and making it possible to run the same layout makes it optimal to, which is boring as fuck.
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>>552892134
poe2 wasn't a standalone game in 2019, it was a poe expansion that had the same endgame.
you are literally just making shit up lol
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>>552892584
wow it's almost like poo1 gives you THE OPTION to CHOOSE between variety and no variety.
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>>552892501
it's 1:1 delve: you get a map, you see nodes, you click node and you do that node once - then you move on.
it's just in a different setting (not underground), and has a different form of fuel (waystones), as well as a differnt depth system (distance from center), but that's the updated delve 2.0.
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>>552892501
>it's all still out there somewhere for your viewing pleasure
only it isn't out there, it doesn't exist.
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>>552892692
So stick to poe1.
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>>552892584
>being forced to run seepage and mire is fun
>having the option to run sandspit on repeat is boring
you have a mental deficiency or dont play the game
probably both
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>>552892813
retard
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>>552892859
You are autistic if you think running sandspit on repeat is enjoyable.
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>>552892965
>yes jonatroon force me to play in a specific manner! choice is bad! more dogshit please! DIRECTLY INTO MY MOUTH!
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>>552892965
>NOOO THERE ARE NO OBSTACLES AND WALLS AND DEAD ENDS THIS IS SOOO BORING I NEED SOME VARIETY
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>>552892795
retard
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>>552892584
it is still optimal to run certain layouts, though. it's just more of a chore to set up.
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>You are autistic if you think running Strand/City Square/Jungle Valley/Dunes/Silo/Defiled Cathedral/Glacier on repeat is enjoyable.
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>>552892959
post literally one example of them calling the poe2 atlas temporary.
we've seen them add temporary content to the game, they are very upfront about it being temporary.
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>>552892795
retard
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>>552893202
Yes, that's why poe 2's endgame system is better
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>>552893279
>>552893140
lmao meltie, just compare the 2, it literally delve 2.0 and you know it
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>>552893446
retard
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retard
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>>552893273
not doing your research for you, the exact quote was about the endgame being "something that was thrown together quickly and temporarily"
they didn't mention the atlas specifically iirc, but they I assume it's included under "endgame"
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there are more good poe1 maps than total common maps in poe2
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>>552893552
>the exact quote was about the endgame being "something that was thrown together quickly and temporarily"
never happened.
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>expecting endless atlas to get removed in 0.5
lmao how delusional can you be? that tub is here to stay and you'll get disappointed.
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Jonathan, in the 0.4 Q&A, said one of his goals for 0.5 wrt Citadels is to have quests in the endgame guide you to your first set of Citadels and then having them still be random after that.
He wouldn't have said that if the current atlas wasn't going to stay. The "it was worked on very quickly" part was referring to a lack of content in it, not that the base work done was going to be scrapped.
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they release 1 act in 1 year, you niggas really think they got the resources to just make a completely new endgame? holy shit these guys
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>>552893729
jonatroon or mark said it in an interview. might've been the ziz one
>>552893862
>>552893834
well then it's over and poo2 will never have a good endgame.
utterly tubbed FUCKKKKK
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If endless biome atlas is staying why are there still no tablet stash tabs? HMMMMMMMMMMMM? Are you going to argue that GGG is avoiding the opportunity to make a huge amount of easy money? Everyone would buy a tablet tab instantly.
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>>552893862
>adding a quest so shitters can find a citadel means the endgame is temporary
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>>552894070
well anon, you are looking at it wrong. the endless atlas is what jonny thinks constitutes "good endgame", everyone else just disagrees
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>>552894070
>jonatroon or mark said it in an interview.
never happened.
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>>552893552
as i remember it, they explicitly said that the endgame was thrown together quickly in the last few months of development. they admitted that its unfinished and barebones but didnt want to ship an arpg without an endgame in 2024. (>2024 was 2 years ago)
so far so good.
then they kept doubling down on the infinite atlas and tried to polish the turd instead of flushing it. more shitty tower layouts, more shitty atlas nodes, more shitty unique maps, more recycled campaign bosses.
those changes wouldnt be completely wasted if they deleted the infinite atlas and added itemized maps, but it shows that they want to make it work.
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>>552894082
the endgame IS temporary, but there is no way they won't release 1.0, all classes and all ascendancies before they seriously redo it, and even then i just expect it to be some sort of twist on an endlessly scrolling board of shit
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We cant even zoom out on the atlas. 1 year in and there's still nodes that aren't even connected. Nodes that lead nowhere etc. It's somehow even buggier than in 0.1 or 0.2
The lack of improvements to it makes me think that at the very least they'll rework it but I have lost all faith in the tub at this point
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>>552894373
you misunderstand.
the concept of the infinite atlas is not quickly thrown together, but the content and some other stuff is. it fits perfectly with their MO for poo2, this was always the plan in some form.
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The infinite part is definitely going away because it's not sustainable or efficient. It's a performance disaster. The revised endgame will be a static map with a randomized interior.
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>>552894385
it's temporary in the sense that they will expand on it and refine it over the next decade.
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they haven't even fixed the broken connecting nodes
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>>552894695
why fix a soon to be replaced system?
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>>552894420
in 0.1 there was a bug that let you zoom out further. they fixed that, this is the intended zoom level.
what bugs me more is that there is no fucking search for it...
>>552894543
lmao so much cope, the infinite atlas was always the intended vehicle for the endgame and will stay.
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>>552894764
Does he know?
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I THINK YOU'RE ALL DOOMERS AND THE ENDGAME CHANGES OF 0.5 WILL FIX EVERYTHING
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>>552894785
You are going to be raped so hard by 0.5 lil doomie
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>>552894852
this but unironically
i trust ggg
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>>552894852
maybe so but the endless atlas will stay.
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>>552894852
*smooch*
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>>552894785
>a bug that lets you zoom out was fixed
they dont even play their own slop and it's obvious
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>>552894852
doomers save the game yet again?
no surprise to anyone who has been here for more than 5 years.
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>>552894852
maybe after they finally add ToTA in act 4
lol_________________
_________________lmao
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>>552894929
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>>552895072
>GGG: hey this isn't great and we know we'll want to improve it later
>Doomers: This literally sucks. Everything about this is awful and it needs to be fixed.
>GGG: Okay we finished doing the things we said we would a while ago
>Doomers: Wow I'm so smart and good at game design. I called it bad and they made it better.
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>>552895353
>no fun in my game
>aislop video depicts a chris
>poe1 actually got more fun after chris left
atleast put some thinking into these raj
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>>552895020
this is unironically true.
i got a bunch of ggg devs on my friendslist, because why not, and they quit in early/mid 80s a week or 2 in.
a lot of the stuf that is annoying only gets noticed as being bad hundreds of hours in.
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>>552894536
they never explicitly said that the idea of the infinite atlas is a placeholder. what i mean is that in 0.1 the assumption was that it was a placeholder and would get scrapped entirely because it was so bad. but then jonathan demonstrated that its here to stay.
i dont even understand the point of it at this point. without tower tablets it barely adds anything to the game. saving specific maps or areas for different strats is immensely tedious and clearly not intended judging by the inability to search or filter for anything.
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>>552895394
You don't get it. Lazy niGGGers need the whip.
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>>552895521
the point of it is simple:
it looks better than the abstract poe1 atlas when you show it to some journo or some newfag player
poo2 is made to look good, not to play well
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>>552895394
nobody says what exactly what they want, just that the endless atlas is bad and needs to go, which is true.
there needs to be some sort of system to selec the map layout you run, because this shit is too spiteful towards players.
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>>552895692
Most of the changes that doomers have prompted have sucked. We don't need Ziz crying about needing attribute runes and nerfs to the Grelwood wolves.
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The current iteration of endgame is a work in progress. Many components of the endgame drop hints of what was always the plan:
>corrupted/cleansed maps
>towers, tablets, etc, are all Precursor related
>each placeholder EA campaign ending with a Cataclysm (the finished POE2 campaign will have a bad end and will result in a Cataclysm)
>the existence of Citadels and voicelines confirming it takes place after the campaign (i.e. Geonor's manor being even more corrupted than it was in Act 1)
>the existence of the Arbiter (and later the Abyss Lord)

A post-Cataclysm'd Wraeclast was always the intended endgame. The infinitely expanding biome system IS the sloppy placeholder. That's why it's been so easy to bully GGG into making sweeping changes to it.
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>put in a huge amount of effort into making something good by conventional metrics
>fail
it's always the same thing with ggg
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>>552895521
the infinite atlas is a more advanced version of what the poe1 atlas was.
just read the lore for the atlas, it's infinite.
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a fucking kirac mission screen type system would be 100 times better than the infinite atlas
>get choice of 10 different maps for the hecking varieterino
>small chance for unique / special maps
>can use tablets and atlas points to influence what you get in your next selection
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>>552896358
sorry anon, it doesn't look beautiful enough. we want our turd to shine so bright that it will stun you, endles atlas it is.
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>>552896004
Still not getting it...
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>"LET THEM COOK"
>the cooking
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>>552896358
but that will stop players from checking the 4 new added tower layout that they added
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>the new cope for 0.5 is that the endless atlas will get removed
i will need a lot of poopcorn for that release show
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>>552896541
Makes sense, the Chinese do that.
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Endless biome map should be replaced by selectable "regions", that is a smaller group of interconnected maps that are weighted towards a biome or group of biomes (could be further customized by atlas passives). Could make it 30-50 maps per region, you get the idea. These "regions" always spawn with a corruption zone and a related citadel/unique map based on your biome selection. Completing a certain number of maps, or the corruption nexus, or citadel, or powerful unique map boss "finishes" the region, allowing you to close the region and start a new one, or continue farming the region as you see fit. That way you can run different strategies. There would only be 1 tower per region which would continue to give you extra sight, but with regions you could go back to the older towers where you can modify maps in its radius (which would pretty much be a large chunk of a "region"). An extra avenue of optional juice. You can make the Nexus's/citadels/unique maps get more juiced as you finish more maps in the region, or you can rush them for volume, etc.

Why this is better: Lets players play more of the maps they like, guarantees a constant sense of progression, allows more targeted and varied farming strategies, stops your computer from catching fire in huge endless maps, and by having this be more compartmentalized you can adjust and make changes whether for balance or as part of mechanics much easier. For example, tablets can instead be used at the selection of a region to have all (or most) maps be modified by them.

If you use this Johnathan I demand you hire me or at least give me free mtx
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>>552896489
>the game should look like jank slop because poe1 is jank slop and that is SOVL
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>>552896684
but anon, the poe1 atlas is just a bunch of jpegs, and very boring. it looks outdated.
meanwhile, the poop2 atlas is a bunch of HIGH QUALITY 3D ASSETS that you can scroll through ENDLESSLY! We even force you to see all the assets our artists made!
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>>552896679
they already did that with the poe1 atlas and it was a fucking disaster.
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>>552896679
>he wants map selection
uh sorry, that don't fit with no vision we got, so we gonna have to give you a no to dat.
>>552896828
compared, to the current atlas, it was bad
compared to the atlas that came before that it was amazing, and a huge hit. they removed the parts people didn't like (watchstones, regions), and improved on the parts they liked (selection, tree part, every map being able to be t16)
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>>552896679
>choice? not in my game
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what do you mean you want them to remove the endless atlas? i love it, it's great to not micromanage the layouts i wanna run!
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>>552897241
retard
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the game isnt supposed to be fun
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You WILL do your chores before you get to play the good parts of the game!
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>>552892496
my builds too shit to kill +4 difficulty bosses though :(
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>>552897241
just play poo1 lol
it's literally the perfect game, no wasd, no gay atlas, just 24/7 dunes, billions of endgame systems, clusters, heist, harvest, life on the passive tree.
>nooooo i hate poo1 thats why they need to make poo2 exactly like it!
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>>552897459
+4 bosses don't give any loot
in fact I suspect they give negative loot
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>>552897515
i just said i like the randomness, are you schizophrenic?
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don't worry once they finally add act 6 you won't be doing the endgame anymore since the acts are already tedious to redo every fucking league
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>>552897596
then the atlas passive point notification.... stays
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>>552897653
back to d4 lil gup
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>>552897515
uh-oh melty
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>>552897618
/s
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>>552897515
>poe2 shouldnt be fun because poe1 exists
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>>552897653
>he can't appreciate the lore and story while he plays through the campaign
i pity you
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>poo2 should be different from poe1 in every aspect, even if it means it'll end up less fun
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>>552897868
poe2 is already more fun that poe1 thoughbeit
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>>552897907
appreciating it once, or maybe twice: super based
appreciating it 100s of times: giga autistic
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>>552897982
flammability.png
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>>552898218
true. reusing a system from poe1 would mean poe1 got something right, and we can't have that, can we, mister rogers?
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>>552897907
>hmm yes let me just rerun the 20 hour campaign every 4 months for multiple characters
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>>552898496
>he can't appreciate the campaign every 4 months
i pity you
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>>552898496
>it takes him 20 hours
im running out of pity here anon
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>>552898619
post your non-twinked campaign time for a class/build of your choosing with proof
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>>552898759
i don't play this game :)
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>>552898838
you should pity kill yourself
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>>552898586
>appreciate
>poe 2 campaign
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new hopecope just dropped
>infinite atlas will get removed
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its time to add frostblink, flame dash, real leap slam, real shield charge, frostblink of wintry blast, whirling blades, real lightning warp, quicksilver flask and silver flask and remove sprinting
it was a fun experiment, it didnt work out, thats fine
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>repeating the same drivel day after day with no meaningful changes
what the fuck is wrong with you losers
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>>552899459
you're coping hard lil gup, gonna be fun raping you in a few months
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>>552899484
we both know that will never happen
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>>552899553
>posted by anon
>as he returned to doing what he was doing yesterday
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>>552899770
b...but that's different!
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>>552899605
what you be thinking will happen big gupta?
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>>552899484
no fun in jonatroon's game.
you WILL experience tedium the likes of which have never been seen before.
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>>552899484
poo2 was made to look good, not play well.
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>>552878154
doesn't it rely on your damage? so your weapon is shit
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>>552900376
they already said the "endgame rework" is just unfucking the atlas passive tree.
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>>552900812
watch them fuck it even more
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>>552900812
there's no way, it's been delayed for more than half a year. No way it's simply a rework of 40 fucking passive nodes.
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT.
I simply do.
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>>552888856
poo2 proves you wrong
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>>552901172
wasd feels like a chore in medium to long sessions in poo2, too.
>>552901087
hope cope
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>>552901087
think about it this way: simply reverting to poe1s endgame wouldnt have taken so fucking long. they are still trying to make the infinite atlas work and failing to come up with something good, hence the delay.
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>>552901315
the delay is because mark can't make it work and woodful won't give up on it because they sunk so many hours into the assets and tech
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>>552901315
the infinite atlas already works.
the biggest issue was being forced to explore maps and hunt rares when they were working out the bugs in their procgen. now you are in a map for 2-3 minutes unless you are farming ritual.
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>>552901269
what's the difference in using wasd or qwerty on a long session?

if anything poe1 causes more strain on your mouse hand while poe2 divides it between both hands
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the rework?
EOS both games
China server only
No gweilos
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>>552901732
you constantly press 1-2 buttons on your left hand, often in high frequency, with wasd, while on mouse movement you can play most builds one handed if you have a mouse with some side buttons.
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retention bros ww@ ? 20k people uninstalled the game and you're laughing
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>>552901731
infinite atlas is dogshit
holy fuck it just makes the whole endgame so much worse. once it becomes big enough it's so tedious to navigate it's unreal.
>bookmark a map
>click on the bookmark
>area stays fogged over, nodes wont even load
>have to scroll to the bookmark on the other side of the atlas from an area that DID load to remove the fog systematically
what the fuck. it's so fucking bad lmao
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>>552901923
Hey now, a 4k loss isn't that bad.
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>>552901923
this time last year 350,000 players logged in on the weekend.
this year? barely 100k
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>>552902124
looks pretty, plays like a dildo up your ass.
most systems in poo2 are like that.
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>>552902246
watch hopetroons say:
>this is a good thing!
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>>552902241
No wonder Jonathan looked like he was about cry in his 0.2 interviews with Ziz.
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>>552902241
>It's already been more than a year and this is all we have
It's over. For real this time. There's no way to spin this positively hopesissies.
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>>552902246
that's a good thing though
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>>552902246
you can always play poe1
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>>552896679
At this point every single way of mapping has been done. infinite atlas, different regions, regional influences, tablets, sextants, watchstones, voidstones.

and what is the conclusion? The system that's been matured over the course of years in PoE1 is the most enjoyable, precisely because it's been iterated on so much. There's no point in re-inventing the wheel in poop of piss 2
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>>552856071
>6500 players already
Tri = won
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>>552902893
only the ways you can imagine.
there is way more iterations they can go through, they are pretty good at coming up with shit.
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>>552856071
>>552902960
>pohx league still getting mogged
poe1 "players" just can't win
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>>552902996
>they are pretty good at coming up with shit.
i'd rather them come up with good systems
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>>552902241
1 act and a couple classes? a whole year?
lol
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>>552902893
>the perfect atlas is just instance resetting the dunes map.
people used to make fun of bakedchicken for running the same map all league.
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>>552903298
there are more good maps than dunes.
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please name your favorite poop2 maps, I'll start:
I like
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>>552903298
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CHOOSE HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME YOU MUST FOLLOW THE INFINITE ATLAS AND SEARCH FOR CITADELS
Jonatroon the constant dropping player count every league disagrees with you.
The PoE2 optimized endgame isn't even all that different. It's just a constant slog to get water/swamp maps to boost currency drops. Except now it's not even fun.
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>>552903519
moment of zen
also, assembly is just a straight line to run through the boss, maybe a bit long, but that is bearable.
wouldn't say i like it though.
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what damage type are the slams of the breach mobs that look like this? keep on dying to them so I am guessing chaos.
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>>552903519
i like sun temple because the vaal temple pedestal always spawns to the start.
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>>552903719
https://poe2db.tw/us/search?token=b2ead751545fc4ff07e329e6962360b10f17e47c12ed428fe1cf9c5e758624452ad2e1&q=it+that+#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=it%20that%20&gsc.page=1
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it's up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwBmzi9zuqU
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>>552903519
there are more good maps than bad in poe2.
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>>552904035
you did name 0 map layouts you like
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>>552903519
I like Savanna
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>>552903519
maps with rain
also i want to live in the well of souls i really like abyss aesthetic
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>>552902241
that's terror
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>doomtrooning in 2026
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sex with lurking creature
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>>552904207
it's easier to name the bad layouts.
rugosa, digsite, flotsam, hidden grotto, molten vault, mire, vaal city.
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>>552904014
I think moving gems out of colored slots was a good move
everything else though...
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>>552904650
Lunchbreak status?
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>>552904789
sun temple, seepage, ...
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>>552904789
sump...
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>>552904358
is there an abyss themed hideout?
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>boss takes forever to drop loot
thanks ggg
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Signed up for TriDMBlazeLocalhole league. I made it to maps on one character and I'm on interludes on a SSF warrior.

We go again. League start. Again. What build?
>ED/Contagion Lich pivot into Blackflame Covenant
I don't know how to scale fire this may be a mistake.
>Avatar of Kaom fire warrior.
Because funny
>Hollow Palm Monk
Because rule of cool.
>Bleed Amazon
I don't know how I'd do it but I want to make a bleeder.
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>>552906193
Uninstall on Click Wizard.
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>>552905724
they added kulemaks arena as a hideout this patch
looks really good
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>shitty campaign bosses have all their phases and animations in maps
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>>552909702
love benedictus going invuln for 30 seconds then one shotting you from some random ass attack
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>>552910102
I don't even bother fighting him unless I know I can nuke him right off the rip
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do you stupid niggers seriously still die to campaign fucking bosses????
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>>552910439
>2rist reading comprehension
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>>552910439
fight a map+4 difficulty boss without 200k dps and 20k ehp, let me know how it goes
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Y
I
K
E
S
Poop 2. Big stink!
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>>552910671
>200k dps is a milestone for him
wewlad, why do you humiliate yourself like that
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>>552911201
hey we're not all CoCsuckers like you
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>>552911350
merc here, no coc in my mouth
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>>552855797
Why remove the dedicated global # from the OP? It gets lonely.
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poo 2
awful smell
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tubbed, fubbed & mazed.
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>>552911461
what would a global /vg/ channel be but people saying poop 2 over and over
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>>552912128
yeah the scat fetishists itt are obnoxious enough
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>>552912128
nah it used to be global 1488, was comfy but it died because it stopped getting posted in the OP.
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>>552912760
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Is this retarded or based for abyss farming?
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>>552912760
you are not the original sleepies guy. I can tell
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>>552912760
he was last seen asking for a thorns build for poe2
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>>552912760
literal stock multi millionaire
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>>552903519
Penitentiary
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>>552912942
I think starting left going around the outer circle is better.
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>>552912942
It's what i'm doing so probably yes
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>>552913390
im trying this now for the 2nd time and I just don't like the abysses being spread out. Checking the wiki it doesn't seem like choosing a type of abysall doesn't affect much for omen drops either.
>>552913598
The middle one that gives all your waystone stuff to abyss should be really good right? Yesterday and today has been nothing but full juice t15/16 maps with 2 abyssal + 1 lvl up tome. I've got 2 omen light so far so not really sure why everyone on jewtube dooesn't recommend it.
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>>552882437
>I only wanted to do one core skill and didn't want to try anything
>Wtf why is there nothing to do
Are you trolling?
Also it's true pally is fucking overtuned but I'm willing to excuse it since it's in early access
We're due for the oaths quests, what I'm assuming is a rebalance, and an as of yet unknown launch class so as it stands LoH is tons of value
Also I can't help but think GGG needs more time to cook, poe2 should be in EA for like 3 more years given the last state I played it (prior to droods update)
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>molten vault
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>>552882437
>look at this other disgusting dogshit, it makes our dogshit taste even better!
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Oil grenade shot ignite build would be nice if the grenade didn't bug out half the time on any map that's something other than flat ground. Like seriously the fucking thing just disappears or does a tiny aoe instead of what it's supposed to do.
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>>552914808
Thanks for testing!
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is lineage support gem drop affected by map rarity or tier?
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Where do Vaal orbs come from? How do people get so many?
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>>552915438
doesnt matter. whate t6 map with 0 atlas boss nodes has the same drop rate as a t16 8mod with 10 boss nodes. dumb system
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>>552903519
Grimhaven, Penitentiary, Bastille.
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Had a dream where GGG finally added daggers but it kinda sucked. They combined daggers and claws into a single 2 handed weapon with claws on the off hand but theres a toggle to make daggers one handed by itself. You can only use ranged attacks/spells with daggers and melee with the claws.
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>>552915849
thanks
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Who are these for? Who actually watches them and finds entertainment value in them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGjiEeJ2zUo
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>>552914568
you can blink over the part at the start to skip the lever pulling roleplay
its still a shit map though
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>>552915997
When a company gets large enough, stupid ideas float up and no one wants to say anything.
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>>552915968
>GGG finally added daggers but it kinda sucked.
It wasn't a dream. It was a vision.
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>>552916017
you can also jump down the dam right at the end without having to use the lever or the elevator. did not work with pounce but worked with escape shot which is a lil bit clunky since you have to basically do a backflip and position yourself in reverse.
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>>552915997
you manipulative whore
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>>552915997
Kek what the fuck, did they hire too many people and ran out of things for them to do? What is this retardation lmao?
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>>552915997
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>>552915997
>real development time went into making these fights, disabling certain abilities, and finetuning the bosses to make it work
cant make this shit up
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>>552915997
>not even Geonor can beat jamanra
Grim
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>>552896541
I like my ice well done thanks with a side of ketchup.
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>>552896541
>hotfix comes out
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>>552917361
reduced quant is way worse
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>>552915997
>Who actually watches them and finds entertainment value in them?
Me
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>>552917430
At least that one comes with increase quality
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>>552917361
That's a good mod, you can farm expensive bases.
The reduced quantity, increased rarity one is the worst of all
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Why is nobody able to compete with fubgoon?
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>>552919563
Asian genes, they have a grindset no one else can match.
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The collision physics is one of the worst things in this game it's so goddamn annoying on its own and twice as worse when it desyncs you
Why won't they fix that shit for fuck's sake
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>month 2 poe 2 ritual
i'd rather climb into a tub of shit
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>>552920370
Still month 1 anon. 25 days to be exact. 3 more months of this btw.
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>>552920484
god help us
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>>552919563
>>552920107
Say about him what you want, but his autism is actually impressive. The guy build 3 completed temples.
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>>552920484
holy fuck I got bored, made a mirror and quit by day 16, shortest PoE league I've ever played.
Didn't even do atziri once. Endgame loop and atlas is just that bad.
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>>552920305
they saw how much fun we had in poe1 with shield charge getting stuck on everything and though this would make for a good baseline movement feature.
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i started building this monstrosity yesterday, how over is it for me?
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>>552922030
>Yesterday
>After it's been nerfed and so much hotfixes has been made that you can't really be sure what's going on
Do you like hurting yourself?
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How to make elemental damage count for leech instead of only physical?
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>>552922134
this is the current "best" layout, though, surely they won't change it again, right? Hotfix 15 re-enabled the building with locks.
i am going for this
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>>552922134
>and so much hotfixes has been made
I keep noticing that doomers struggle with the english language. They also post a lot of AI slop.
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>>552922030
>launched poop 2
I'd say its beyond over for you
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>>552922369
my english is perfectly fine, saar, do the needful and rope yourself
also poo2 is trash
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>>552922369
>Used has instead of have
It's over, PoE2 is finally the best it can possible be...
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>>552922334
Where do you have that layout from? Either way, this is the mathematically solved temple, and the one you should actually build.

https://sulozor.github.io/?t=ACJIIjAiSCIwIjAxEikRKRIxSCJpAACYAABoIkhwMWkAAAAyMCJ6InBqcAA5IjCASAAAAABgSCJxIQAAAAA5Ikh5SAAIMWgyMCIwIgAIMCJIIg#/atziri-temple
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>>552922539
JONATHAN NO DONT PLAY WITH THE TUB SHIT
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>>552922776
>so much hotfixes have been made
retard
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>>552922824
the one listed is the casual version of the one i linked.
both come from milkybk, the version i am doing is way harder because you go spy->garrison->spy->garrison without the "dead" armouries ("russian tech")
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>>552923073
Sorry, I just posted the wrong link, meant to post this:

https://sulozor.github.io/?t=ACFIIUghSCFIIUhgOWA5YDlgSCE5ESkRKRE5IUhgKQCYACkySCE5EjEAeRFpIUhgcGl6cClwSCE5eXpwMRJ6IUgyaXBhOXGASCIxOWEIQGkxIg

This requires the russian tech and roman roads and some other trickery.
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>>552923197
How would you put the garrison into the corner and continue with a spymaster?
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>0
Hm?
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>>552923598
Like this. You then lock the spymaster and the garrison above it to make the armory decay.

Semi-blackpill: these top tier temples are only like 5-10% better than the "casual" ones, because of all the diminishing returns.
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>>552922776
Not helping your case, brownie.
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>/poeg/ - Subject-Verb agreement general
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There is literally zero build diversity in this game
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>>552924884
that would mean everyone is playing the same build
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they shouldve kept the grotto hidden
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>>552924884
Well if there's anything 0.4 can claim, it's that it has decent enough diversity. Comet is only at 25%. HoT last patch had 45%.
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>>552924884
retard
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>>552924884
The diversity is in the hires. This company is GGG in name only. Slop producing fotm trash corporation now.
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>>552919568
just run 500 ritual maps bro
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>>552924952
No retard, it means you have to play certain build with certain ascendancies and if you don't your damage and defenses get brutally punished. Can you make a spark coc witchhunter? Yea if you spend 5 mirrors on it. That's DOGSHIT. But I know your low IQ cannot even begin to catch why that's the case in the first place. It's because the devs want to control player power which also ties into all of the combo bullshit. From a game design perspective it works to compensate a small team of people with an even smaller QA team. How many testers do you think GGG has in the office to test every potential build if they were to open up build variety? They don't have enough as it is so they restrict build diversity because it's easier to control player power that way.
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>>552924884
on my third build right now, last two made it to 93 and 97
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>>552925674
Are you retarded? Don't answer that. But answer me this, what are your 3 builds? I can't wait to laugh
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>>552925674
and what are they
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>>552925605
>No retard, it means you have to play certain build with certain ascendancies and if you don't your damage and defenses get brutally punished. Can you make a spark coc witchhunter? Yea if you spend 5 mirrors on it. That's DOGSHIT. But I know your low IQ cannot even begin to catch why that's the case in the first place. It's because the devs want to control player power which also ties into all of the combo bullshit. From a game design perspective it works to compensate a small team of people with an even smaller QA team. How many testers do you think GGG has in the office to test every potential build if they were to open up build variety? They don't have enough as it is so they restrict build diversity because it's easier to control player power that way.
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>>552925810
>>552925835
la deadeye
lunar assault oracle
lightning spear amazon

not even touching coc comet, poisonburst, or crossbows yet
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>>552925902
>Foot fetish Sadako
It's original I guess.
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all the strong builds are just strong by accident and will be deleted next league
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>>552925605
retard
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>>552926104
LMAO you just proved my point, god damn that was easy. Tell me something, if the has so much build diversity why are you playing the expected ascendancy for the skills you listed? Why didn't you play LA chronomancer? Why didn't you play lightning spear kitava? Why didn't you play lunar assault stormweaver? These questions have an obvious answer which is that it would cost a shit ton of currency to get them up and running and you'd reroll before that happens. It's because GGG wants to control player power it's really that easy to comprehend. They don't want it to be ez to roll and skill with any ascendancy because then they would have to track where player power is going and nerf things accordingly, which means more staff, more staff = more money etc.

They also have a problem where they only hire in New Zealand which limits them as well
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>>552926668
if you want everything to be viable just go play d4
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Do you guys think it's worth using Spear of Solaris when I freeze a boss? The attack speed is so low I can't honestly tell if it's a DPS increase over Fangs of Frost.
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>>552926668
don't listen to that other guy, just play poe1, it's the superior GGG offering
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First natty HH.
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>>552926781
You can't engage with anything I said because you are bottom of the barrel low IQ trailer trash. D4 and PoE 2 are DOGSHIT games with extremely low build diversity and ZERO endgame. You're just a drug addled retard obsessed with political tribalism because that's the only way you can "think" about anything.

Get destroyed you faggot
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>>552927053
>1 charm slot
its joever
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>>552927091
youre calling me stupid while suggesting builds like a bow-wielding chronomancer lol. not everything is going to work. there are plenty of weird things like spear wielding blood mages, talisman wielding warriors, 2hmace mercs, you just have to look for them, im sorry my builds arent wild enough for you
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>>552927616
Yea you just have to look for them because almost no one except a single digit number of retards would try any of that shit and if they do they're just doing white maps, probably t5-10 all day but they'll never go beyond that and they'll just reroll to something else when they finally realise that. There's no build diversity in the game, there just isn't because the GGG has a weird game design philosophy. I mean for fuck sakes, you have skills tied to weapons, the fuck?
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The worst poo2 league so far
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Why don't they just add scouring orb to fix the economy
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>>552928387
trvke
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>>552928387
>>552928579
samefag
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>>552928387
The vaal temple is the best mechanic GGG has ever made. Suck for you if you get filtered by something that equates to a puzzle for pre-schoolers.
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>>552928935
Yea you're a complete retard. Take the night off Kumar. You've got a long day ahead of you shilling this DOGSHIT game all day tomorrow.
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>>552868602
>nobody sees a troon and thinks they are what they pretend to be
you say this in the ts larry simp general
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>hmm today i will do temple
>run 1 temple
>spend 30 mins running back and forth putting every item in stash
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does anyone have a good monk build to share?
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>>552928578
add scours
add life on tree
remove dodgeroll
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>>552928578
Makes too much sense. Next you're going to ask for alterations.
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>>552928578
>>552929563
>>552929830
retard
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Poopa da scoop.
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>nuAbyss is Abyss+Betrayal
>Temple is Incursion+Synthesis
What league should merge with Legion in POE2?
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>>552930636
>Legion
How would that still make sense though?
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>>552930806
Legion is definitely happening. Viper gets kidnapped by it in Act 3.
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Same shit, different tub.
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>>552855797
surely 0.5 will be a nice big thick creamy steamer, he’s been bogarting those logs for too long
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>>552926668
>there's build diversity
>THAT DOESN'T COUNT
you just went full retard
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>>552928034
I saw a guy doing chaos volcano with a bow doing chain scaling and shockwave totems proccing the volcanos. People come up with all sorts of weird shit but because streamers don't make videos and guides it doesn't get played. Don't cry about a supposed "lack of build diversity" when you're an NPC level retard who can't come up with functional unique builds.
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>>552931672
>volcano
so it does zdps and has no clear epic dude epic BUILD dude!!!
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>>552931728
retard
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Cluster jewels are coming back
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cluster poonuggies
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>>552930636
>>nuAbyss is Abyss+Betrayal
Only the crafting part of Betrayl, we still need the board building part
>>552931016
Which Legion is almost build for it
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>>552932001
Expect them to pretty much brick your build upon using though.
>Each upside node will have a downside
>All notables will have shit like Cannot Regenerate Health and Mana or Crit Chance is unlucky.
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>50% upside
>200% downside
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I hate HH as an item. I hate the fact that it exists in the game.
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>>552931728
>he can't build so it must do zdps
lmao
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>>552932228
it’s only a matter of time til he starts removing the bloody chunky negativity bits from poo2. he removed the towers, he removed the mandatory tiptoe through the giga xl maps, soon poo2 will be just like poo. only then will Jonathan realize he could have save a lot of anal pain and just made it like that to begin with
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>>552932563
Item design still carries that which also bled over to 1, I'd like to be proven wrong in the future though.
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So pretty much gave up trying to farm maps in PoE1(even though Harvest is picking up again)
and I'm just farming Bosses now
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>>552926104
>lightning spear
how ass is it in 0.4? frenzy gen seems painful
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>>552932753
it fucking sucks
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>>552932563
PoE2 gets worse the more it becomes like PoE1.
PoE1 has been dogshit for years.
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>>552932753
spear in general is painful but im making it work, still in campaign
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>PoE1 has been dogshit for years.
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>chudposter
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I fucking love sekhemas, easiest money maker in the game
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>>552925512
Not that many desu. I've already gotten one Compartments and one whose name I forget but it went for several dozen divs at the time. Plus like four divs' worth of splinters.
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>>552933104
its fine in campaign but falls off hard unless you generate ze charges
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>>552933404
Please explain
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It's called 'jaks actually.
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I don't know how people played this and poe1 for prolonged periods of time without the marketplace. I wouldn't be able to.
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>PoE1 has been dogshit for years.
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>>552933687
Simple. You delude yourself that sitting in your hideout trying to whisper bots is just part of the game. You convince yourself that half the time you spend """crafting""" is going to multiple HOs just to get stuff.
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>>552929471
>running
You know you can just portal out right?
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zam
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>>552933996
The fuck are these?
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>>552934068
slave and his master
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the trade manifesto was right
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>>552934162
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>>552934336
the what
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>>552933687
You just play the game, but you clearly don't know much about that.
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>>552933404
>200 divs
WOW enough for one trash rare in this economy
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>>552934336
oh well softcore trade has always been for lesser players. let them enjoy their baby mode
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>>552934352
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>>552932915
>PoE1 has been dogshit for years.
the trvke that decimated poeg
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>>552934068
squires from penance pack
most of the time i keep them in cages in my ho
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Poo1 and Poo2 don't have PVP because it completely fucks with their ability to balance skills. They're radically different play environments and makes balancing impossible. I think party play fucks with GGG in the same way and they should disable parties entirely.
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>don't have PVP
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I don't want to do the superbosses, but I've otherwise beaten the game. I don't want to get too much into crafting yet, so my options seem to be learn about juicing maps or learn Sanctum/Vaal Temple for now.
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Looks like a day 3 character. Very cool anon
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cant wait for tri endorsed private league

what should I play?
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>>552927616
>bleed builds are weird on the class that's built around bleeds
uhhhh
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>>552938417
I'm gonna play the same thing I usually play.
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>>552938417
uninstall on click wizard
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>>552938659
All right then, keep your secrets.

I'm probably starting Carn's shield wall, did it in a SSFHC and made it level 92 with no issue, little bit of trading here and there should dummyproof it.
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>9 tier 3 spymasters
>so far always dropped enough locks to stack them
>no had 2 runs with 0 drops
>can't lock both my snakes
>tfw
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GGG You forgot Games are supposed to be fun

There is probably hundreds of these posts. I've wanted to write this for a long time and really haven't been able to come up with the words.

The feeling I want to express is that I feel that PoE2 is a great game completely shafted by anti-fun balancing.

I want to contextualize my feedback by framing it in reference of another game I picked up over the holidays Shape of Dreams. This is a roguelite dungeon crawler where you pick 1 of several characters and outfit yourself a build out of a few active skills, a basic attack, a dodge roll, and a passive. I had and am having an absolutely blast increasing difficulty and mix and matching various skills, characters, etc.

Something that stood out to me while playing, is how easy it was to come up with various combos that naturally worked well together that felt good to use. For example, I fell in love with using a series of triggers to reduce the cooldown on multiple skills through the use of skill augments (remnants) and a skill that reduces the cooldown on other skills, that gave me fantastic uptime on all of my skills. Giving me snappy, fun, engaging gameplay.

The contrast with poe2 was mind boggling.
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>>552939008
That was just my advice, I'm playing Lich.
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>>552939145
The game is full of these inconsistencies and just unfun mechanics at every turn. Take siege cascade. Skill does great damage, and has a cool target effect. I have a build that clears T15s with ease using it, only some mobs I can't hit to save my life cause they are too fast, even with every bit of projectile speed I can take and as much reasonable AoE the aoe is too small to even tag these mobs. Like I'm all for requiring investment to solve some problems but at some point, I stop and wonder why am I even trying to make these obscure builds work at all.
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>>552938417
its softcore trade?
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remember siege cascade/frost wall chronomancer? me neither
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>>552939465
Yes, it's being shilled as a fresh start economy from what I gather. Ofc, I'm going to temple snakemaxx as soon as possible myself. Perhaps in this context someone could give ideas for a build that can grow into clearing that juiced temple? Not that I think shield wall is incapable or anything...
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>>552936652
>7k ES CI
Gotta pump that number up anon.
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>>552939465
Yeah, but I'm just not gonna trade and I'll delete my character if I die.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1q5k5r0/first_time_headhunter_user_i_am_told_this_is_a/

the absolute state of these shitters
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>>552940257
poo2 is already way too easy. i hate that everyone and their mother has a headhunter
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thank god i can afford mageblood every league
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>>552939429
>why im even trying to make these obscure builds work at all
kek this is me every single poo2 league. I start with a cool idea, realize it just doesn't work nearly as well as the cookie cutter tubshit and give up.
Even something seemingly simple to build around like flicker is a pain in the ass to get working well.
Then I switch to spark or some other meta bullshit, get bored and quit.
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>>552940569
Unironically already needs a ruthless mode. They caved on everything, the game will be fully r*dd*t by 1.0.
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>>552941264
Jonny will add campaign skips before 1.0.
Chris is gonna release a melty vid on the 'tube.
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>>552940257
>HH
>has like 10% movespeed
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The game is already ruined from the start by being a copy paste. Why is it that every season you need to kill the hardest bosses in the game to get your 8 atlas points for deli / breach, but Abyss you just need to kill a lvl 82 boss? Shit is completely unbalanced.
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>>552941264
I just want some way to scale monster effectiveness to the tits (like temple, but in real content) while reducing packsize. Give me 90% less packsize but 1000% effectiveness and let me have minute-long fights with rares like Chris intended
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Oh yeah, we're printing.
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>>552941632
>hardest bosses in the game
I mean they're not very hard to be honest.
>King in the piss
Extremely easy but a dps check since the arena gets flooded with garbage after a while
>XeSHIT
Tanky but you just need some MS and you can kite him endlessly
>Simulacrum
Only one you will have trouble with getting the full 8 points
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>>552942063
how about you print yourself some bitches
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>>552942151
You know somebody is really jealous and seething when they resort to the "but you're a loser irl" schtick.
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>>552942073
King of the Mist is a somewhat upgraded Act 1 boss. I was kind of surprised at how easy he is.
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>>552941264
it was always meant to be poe 4.0
them being whishy washy about Le Vision is why they are 4 years behind schedule
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bro just farm abyss and be yourself.
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>>552934504
>you're not a tru gaymer if you've not suffered through awful systems like I did!
Dude, you're pathetic
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another day in the softcore nigger slave trade
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6 runs kek
not pictured 800 divines and a hinekoras lock
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>>552943924
damn. my temple isn't decked out but I'm getting around 5-8 divs per run though. no lock yet.
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>>552944171
im up to 8.5k divines and 5 locks but no mirrors. jonathan woodful rogers has shadowbanned my account
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>>552860257
there's like less than 20 notables with genuinely interesting effects/that can significantly impact your build. 99% of the tree is just generic % damage increases or some combination of armor/energy shield/evasion.
meanwhile in poe1 there's a ton of power on the passive tree and even life/resists available so you can offload a lot of gear pressure onto the passive tree, in poe2 almost every gear piece needs near-perfect %increased defense rolls+life+resists+attributes or it's literally worthless. In PoE1 it's quite common to wear random mediocre gear that's not even the ideal base weapon/armor type just because it has the right color/links of sockets for your build, and as long as it has one or two decent affixes you can use the bench for a third to fix it.

in poe2 there's no bench crafts or resist swapping so every piece needs to be the exact combination of affixes you need, and since there's no life or resists on the passive tree that means 90% of people wear the same boring life+mana+resist+attribute gear. In poe2 the difference between a 20ex item and something worth multiple mirrors is whether it has t1 +rarity on it or not, it's so fucking boring
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>>552945075
you can fix your resist with runes bro cmon man
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>>552942334
Can't help but notice you didn't deny it though.
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>>552945296
you could if all items weren't budgeted assuming you'd be slotting in as many iron runes into them as possible to improve their base stats. also runes not being proper affixes on the gear while poe1 bench crafts are actual affixes again means everybody's gear is super samey.

even if poo2 added bench crafts that capped out at T3 rolls max it would be a huge boost since you wouldn't need to change around half a dozen items because your new gloves have fire res while your old ones had lightning
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>>552945296
retard
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>>552945075
>90% of people wear the same boring life+mana+resist+attribute gear
you dont need resists or attributes in poe2. travel nodes give enough attributes and resistances literally dont matter with hh and rite of passage
i had a really nice ring but im just using andvarius kalandras touch because it doesnt matter. my resistances are -50% on average kek
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any frogposters have inside info on 0.5?
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>>552945502
I'd only advocate res swapping but not outright res benching. There are times I'm way overcapped but one res is lacking. Introducing bench in poo two imo is against its crafting ideology.
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PoE 2 is a DOGSHIT game that has
-No build diversity
-Mentally I'll streamers paid to play it
-Fucked balance
-Random shit kills you for no reason
-100s of leagues shovelled over from PoE 1 so it's bloated as fuck
-Still in early access
-More cosmetics than actual content
-Druid that looks dumb as shit
-Fat devs who need to lose weight
-Worse retention
-No real direction, weird ass game wants to be dark souls for some reason, probably fat devs
-3rd world termites shilling the game
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>>552945880
>any frogposters have inside info on 0.5?

Yes. Its full of shit.
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get me out of this tub
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>>552945880
Won't come before summer. They finally understand that the two month cycle is making the game worse.
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https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/spark-lightning-conduit-stormweaver

would cast on shock lightning conduit spark build still be strong?
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>watch gdq poe2 run
>some tranny homo faggot paid 1100$ for the player name to be tranny rights
>rights only exist with enforcement
you will be forced to cut your own dick off playing poe2 lmfao homo's are the most mentally ill niggers
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JONATROON
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>>552947018
also forgot to mention lmfao the word trans rights popping up when everyone got hung was such a meme ack moment i had to throw this in here too lol
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>>552947018
>poo two and trannies

Match made in heaven. Kek.
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>>552947018
speedrunning annoys me on principle, but what i really hate is how every youtube video has to make it out to be some wholescome collaborative effort.
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>>552947018
What rights do trannys not have?
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>>552946986
no it doesnt work anymore
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>>552947184
fucking lmao
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>>552947184
>also forgot to mention lmfao the word trans rights popping up when everyone got hung was such a meme ack moment i had to throw this in here too lol

>ACK!

KEK
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>>552947184
KEK
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>>552947275
can you link a working spark build?
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>>552947928
I can't sorry I don't play poe 2.
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>>552947928
https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal?skills=Comet%2CSpark&linkedgems-Comet=Cast+on+Critical&items=!Temporalis%2C!Atziri%27s+Splendour%2C!The+Adorned&sort=dps
either bloodmage or covenant
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Give me Templar... or Shadow... please...
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>>552943924
why does anyone need this level of wealth? if you are already clearing this content and farming up a storm, what's left to do? (outside of RMT)
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>>552949018
There never was anything to do, it's farming for the sake of farming. The definition of insanity.
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>>552949018
>why does anyone need this level of wealth? if you are already clearing this content and farming up a storm, what's left to do? (outside of RMT)

He's still enjoying his temple runs. My build is complete, I have no desire to create a new one, but I like roaming in my temple killing monsters and picking up divs.
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>>552949018
minmaxing for the sake of it and temple monsters in a 6 man party are tanky enough to notice the difference
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>>552949018
does poo2 have altarts you can turn into mtx
if so then that's a reason to farm I guess
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>>552947184
lmao
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>>552947184
Wraeclast... is cruel to those living in fantasy...
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AI, clear acts 1 to 3 for me.
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>>552947250
you ask this like we are not dealing with the mentally ill anon they have been tricked into thinking cutting off sexual organs will cure their mental illness
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So we know Act 5 is Oriath, are there any leaks about what Act 6 is gonna be?
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>>552953790
its called the path of exile its short and its a boss rush thats all we know so far
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>>552953790
they left it out of the artbook to avoid spoiling it so it's probably some poe1 memberberries shit or maybe something a little audacious
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referencing poe1 in poe2 = le bad
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>>552954358
nobody sayed this but I think the easter eggs referencing 1 get a little boring
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act 6 is called "The Path to Exile"
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>>552954634
>act 6 is called "The Path to Exile"

K I NO
I
O
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>once you complete the sixth act game renames itself into path of exile while path of exile 1 runs uninstall.exe
Would you clap?
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+levels is too good on gear and it should be removed
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gear is too good and should be removed
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can you get the same result twice from double corrupts? ie can you get a 3rd socket on a helmet or whatever?
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>>552957628
no
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>>552957628
double corrupts only give an implicit
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>>552957949
Bullshit, it can give you a socket if you didn't get one from the regular corruption
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>>552957243
>gear is too good and should be removed

got you famalam.

https://youtu.be/E3GfYYtr9v4
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do i play this or warframe
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>>552959343
Neither will fill the hole in your heart I am sad to say.
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>Sacred Reservoir boss can 1 shot you with insta kill mechanics from off the screen

I'm so tired of this dogshit game
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Then stop playing it.

Consult https://www.arpg-timeline.com/ for what to play next!
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>>552959994
i lost 20% exp at level ~90 to the maps version
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>wanted to try crossbow bloodmage because the idea seemed badass
>level all the way to 52
>fight a boss
>charging.... up...
>get stunned from a small boss attack
>charge up
>get stunned from a small boss attack
>jump really far way
>boss leaps into me while i'm charging up
>charge up
>boss randomly hits me with some faggot ranged attack and stuns me

yeah this is fucking gay of course they never showed this in the video showcase. cringe
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>all the streamers glazing Temple and how well designed it is

I don't get it, mechanically Temple is a dogshit minigame. The fact that the rooms you get are completely random every time and you have to use them is complete ass.
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>>552960675
>and you have to use them
no you don't
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>>552960938
you do or they disappear, stupid
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>>552961018
just run the temple and get a new batch of rooms, dumpo
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>>552961113
That's fucking retarded, why is everything in this game just pseudo gambling?
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>>552960938
>webm
does she have onlyfans?
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>>552961185
>game made by "Grinding Gear Games"
>bro why do i have to grind in my game????
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>>552932915
>PoE1 has been dogshit for years.

Because of PoE2 development that sucked all the resource from PoE1.

>11 months league
>low effort leagues
>nerfs and nerfs to 'align' PoE1 with PoE2 in Expedition, Kalandra
>more nerfs to loot so people don't get dopamine burn-out for the upcoming Poo2 league

Dogshit all the way.
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>>552961249
she's only 17 years 11 months 30 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds old you SICK FUCK
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welp, the peak concurrent has finally hit less than 100k, it was a fun league y'all but it's over
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>>552954634
cringe
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this nigga are not understanded the temple
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>>552960675
>all the streamers glazing Temple and how well designed it is
>
>I don't get it, mechanically Temple is a dogshit minigame. The fact that the rooms you get are completely random every time and you have to use them is complete ass.

Skill issue
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>>552943924
show temple
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>>552962760
saar very good brown chartpost saar EOS in two weeks saar
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>jeets getting mad over the downward spiral poo2 is in
things could not get better
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>>552963696
chartposting has never amounted to anything ever
/coopg/ chartposted for years trying to kill darktide and it never worked
you are extremely retarded if you think it'll be any different for you and your petty butthurt towards POE2
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>>552963787
nobody is trying to kill anything with chartposting, you mong.
i am simply documenting the downfall of it, nothing more, nothing less.
looks like darktide is perfectly alive, and has been so for many many years.
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>>552963787
>chartposting has never amounted to anything ever
>/coopg/ chartposted for years trying to kill darktide and it never worked
>you are extremely retarded if you think it'll be any different for you and your petty butthurt towards POE2

Seeing you seethe this much is enough for me to continue chart posting lil bro.

Chart posting is awesome. Its undeniable data that poo two stinks.
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>>552963914
>>552963928
post another chart lil bro
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>he thinks people post charts to make something happen
>in reality people post charts to show proof of something happening
you really are clueless, huh
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>>552963992
post another chart lil bro give us the update we need to know
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>>552964043
>N-numbers hurt my feelings okay??
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niGGGer
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>>552964043
what is there to post, poo2 long term trend is going down steeply and straight, next league is the time for next update and it won't be prety
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>>552964093
>>552964114
post another chart lil bro you said you were documenting it where's the chart lil bro
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>>552964136
i already did post th current league's chart, next league is the time for new chart.
retard, did the downtrend mindbreak you or something?
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Damn rajesh is seething lmao.
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fresh graph just dropped, still shows what we already know
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We did it bros. We are the Path of Exile.
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troony does not like charts because it reminds him of staying in the hospital because of his botched surgery
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>see numbers
>don't like numbers
>get angry and have a meltdown
every single time
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that chart is old post another
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>>552964461
>not 40/40
>not level 100
>skipped juiced jamboree quantity quandry and gruelling game grinds

I'd be embarassed posting this pic tbhfamalam
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>>552964318
>this breaks the poo2 trannies minds
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>>552964649
so the current patch isn't 0.4? the red line still looks the same, anon, what are you getting at?
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>>552964742
it's old post another chart
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>he is so mindbroken he can't even articulate his thoughts
grim
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Uhoh melty
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why isn't poe2 cancelled yet? wtf?
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>>552965156
sunk cost fallacy
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>>552965156
ONE GAME, TWO CAMPAIGNS
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>>552965156
It's pretty clear that GGG had been huffing their own farts since 2019 about poo2, pouring massive amounts of resources into it. They must have now sunk an incredible amount of money into that project, yet it isn't even half done. Surely, they can make it work any day now, right? They'll have to...
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>>552965464
i like ur hat
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why is poe2 still alive.
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>>552965490
That's very homophobic of you.
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>>552965482
i'd go out on a limb and say ggg are pretty happy with poe2. just compare their attitude during the early access to the 3.0 beta, they seem completely carefree now.
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>>552965948
most higher-ups that were around at 3.0 aren't here anymore
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I know we're all hating the game and GGG and everything but I "crafted" this and it made me happy
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>>552965989
true, that was during the tencent buyout. now the company is owned by a multibillion dollar corporation, the higher-ups are way high up and they only care about the bottom line.
if the game was underperforming or tencent was demanding more they wouldn't be cutting shit from patches because they want to polish it more, they would be slopping it out the door as fast as possible.
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That's too hard. We're just casual gamers having fun :)
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>>552966473
Captcha delet my image
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the tub is a sink of joy
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where's the chart?
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more like shart
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>>552966789
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>charts broke the jeet
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chart?
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is there any good argument for why armour fomular the way it is?

>Elemental Resistance
>75% elemental resistance means you take only 25% of the elemental damage

>Armour
>You have x amount of armour
>The phys hit is y. The bigger the y compared to x the lower efficiency of armour resistance on that phys hit

why? Is this just to fuck with the players?
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chart doko
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>>552968821
>>552967453
>>552966836
>>552966789

uh oh melty
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>>552968898
>>552968898
>>552968898

MIGRATE
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>>552968793
My favorite part is that crit goes before armour reduces the damage.



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