Shocking EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>552924396>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>AAAA I hecking love flaming!
aw man, i made 1 mistakewhere do I return my true survivor title? i clearly don't deserve it
>>553091509Unironically probably true.They should reset that title to see how many of you shitters would still get it
>>553091648Implying you wouldn't lose it too? Because you're so special?
>>553091775>implying he even has it
>>553091509Just delete your characters and cut off your balls.
Is there a mod to automatically block german players? I prefer to win my games
>>553092024I contemplated writing a mod of the sort but for slavgroids, but it'd get a little convoluted with checking the steam profile (likely requires running a local server to open the profile), plus the obvious problem of having a limited amount of block list slots, which is purely server side, and cannot be solved on the client side.Basically, it's not practically possible.
>>553092167Grim. Dark.Thank you for trying at least.
>>553091820>implying he even plays darktide
>>553092285>implying he plays coop games
>Implying he's implying
>>553092318>implying he plays video games
>>553092378>implying
>>553092414>imp-
>>553092462>
Great start to this thread.
>swagger is a cringe redditor>rannick calls hadron heI just don't get the foundryplex mission. Whatever.
when new good coop gamegetting sick of shartfart
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
> rolling steel> time to evac> sniper shoots the Arbites while he's jumping into the Valk, pushing him into the voidKino. Godspeed, you crackshot.
>>553088614By making martyrdom not increase your damage by HALF and increasing the base stats of the weaponsI play a 40k game, I see a big chainsword so I try it and it feels like shit - it takes too many hits to kill things and the hits themselves come out too slowly because you need martyrdomSo you look at martyrdom and it says treat your hp the exact opposite of what the game encourages and if you decide you don't like that then you just aren't supposed to use the eviscerator. But that's ok lets look at the other exclusive zealot melees, we can just pick one of those>thunder hammer - 2hander built for oneshots with martyrdom>relic blade - 2hander built for martyrdom>but if martyrdom's bonus isn't busted then people will never pick it because playing with 1/6 of normal hp is retardedYes, I'm glad we agree martyrdom is abysmal dogshit and dragging heavy weapons down with it
Lore of metal when
>>553092943Trench Crusade tide game soon.Those warhammer babies don't know what TRVE Grimdark is yet.
>>553093367nah, think I am sick of Grim and Grave in generaltrench crusade is barely off the ground anyway
>>553093345>By making martyrdom not increase your damage by HALFHalf of your weapon's damage.>up to +25% from Disdain>+10% from pathing>up to +20% from Sustained Assault>+10% from pathing left>+10% from Prime Target>up to +15% from RiposteI get that this isn't exactly an optimal build, so let's cut out Riposte for good measure.That's still +75% damage.175% damage, adding max Martyrdom, comes out to 225% damage.The damage increase from 175 to 225 is more like +29%.Martyrdom is a less powerful than people think.This isn't even factoring in other +% (melee) damage sources. In fact, I'm not even sure exactly how +% to infested/unyielding from Purge the Unclean interacts with this math, or +50% finesse from Duellist.
Personal ranking of ranged HCUM weapons by FUN>S tier (fun AND OP)-DB Shotgun-Shredder autogun>A tier (Op/great but not THAT fun)-infantry autogun>Boring/unfun and clunky tierthe restthank you for reading
>>553093367More like stench jewsade lol
more like Jew Survivor
>>553093367When everything is grimdark, nothing is grimdark. 40k setting walks a thin line between comically retard and grimdark.
2 stars6 spikes5 empty boxes1 pair
>>553093989What's the meaning of this? Tell me!
if zealot is supposedly the worst class, then explain how i have the most fun on my relic blade fast sprint speed zealot?no but jokes aside please buff my boy slightly. we need to at least be a better pick than fucking melee veteran come on man.
>>553093367That shit's just grimderp for the sake of it.
>>553093880yeah barely. many people making 40k media now take it far too seriously and have no clue about its origins.
>>553093345I see your point now, and yes you are correct.>>553093716You forgot the arguably more important part of martyrdom, which is the 30% attack speed node.>or +50% finesse from Duellist.Depends on how much the weapon's damage is increased by crits and headshots, which is another balancing factor that disadvantages weapons that don't fall into the agile archetyping.
lets not pretend that health has any real worth except maybe for ogryns.
>>553095286>health hits zero>dieA worthless death.
I don't value your opinion at all.
>conflates worth and valueNever change, 4chan.
healthtards are so funny. just completely ignore that every class has 3 max toughness blessing curios with 3 toughness traits too.>go down to 0 health>get picked up by a teammatewow.
>want to play geimu>stuck at work for another hourIm going to kill myself.
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>>553094162unless you're a god gamer with a duelist sword, relic blade zealot is better than melee vet
>>553095982>veteran with a double barrel shotfun but with 15% more ammo (rounded up)
>lose 75% of your health in 5 seconds>it can only come back via a very limited stim or station>lose 75% of your toughness in 5 seconds>you have it all back in 3 secondsgee whiz i wonder which one i should build for?
>>553095889Do it for Mohamed.
>>553096003duelist sword is the easiest weapon in the game to excel with. there aren't even god gamers for it.
>>553094751The finesse meme isn't as big of a deal as you might think. Duellist is incredible on just about everything, you don't need to be using a toothpick.Relic blade goes from 218 to 304 on a finesse hit (weakspot/crit), not counting weakspot AND critThat's a roughly 41% increase>Relic blade, mobility dump, no perks, no blessings>Duellist, +20% melee, +15% elite, no other damage bonusesNo Duellist, light attack head poke against scab rager head: 766 unpowered, 998 poweredYes Duellist, light attack head poke against scab rager head: 981 unpowered, 1246 poweredThat's a roughly 28%, and 25% increase in damage>no Duellist, max Martyrdom:1049, 1367, which is roughly +37% for both.>yes Duellist, max Martyrdom1344, 1707, which is +75% and 71% from baseline; +28% and +25% from the aboveCrusher goes from 165 to 215 on a finesse hitThat's a roughly 30% increase, and also the weakest example that I'm aware of. Thammer is +60% for example.>Crusher, defence dump, no perks, no blessings>Duellist, +20% melee, +15% elite, no other damage bonusesNo Duellist, push attack against scab rager head: 612Yes Duellist, push attack against scab rager head: 787That's a roughly 29% increase in damage>no Duellist, max Martyrdom:838, which is roughly +37%>yes Duellist, max Martyrdom:1079, which is roughly +76% from baseline; +29% from the aboveKeep in mind that these tests were done with a specific build that avoids conditional damage increases. In reality, you'll have a bunch more conditional damage nodes and likely see even less mileage per point out of damage nodes which stack additively.
No wonder why Telopots is worshiped by his beta-orbiters kek he's carrying those useless slavs in every video and everytime they go down it's "oh nooo it's totally the game's fault"
>>553093367thats an actual retard setting, they took the retard move that the first crusaders opened a portal to hell on purpose, instead of the chad move of the first crusaders accidentally opening a portal to hell because they were fighting the muslims and invaded the kabba and one of the relics inside is the catalyst
>this god roll cost me 8 million docketsWorth it for pleasing my autism
>>553097179That's bait.
>>553097179What's the minimax for? Need the speed on your dodge or something?
>>553097232>What's the minimax for?Autism, mostly.Heat management does nothing beyond 76%. The extra mobility lets you move +0.04 units faster
>>553097293Thank the Emperor I am not that autistic.
>>553097887What if I told you that I have another one like that but with 64% damage
>>553097941
>History would later note that he was exactly the kind of autist he’d just thanked the Emperor for not being.
Really don't like the Borderlands DLC, lads.
>>553093124made me laugh
>>553098668Which one?
>>553098726Hive Scum.
need HELPhavoc a BITCHSEND DUDESE with the U4944749582
>>553099678Hopping on, give me a minute, just got home
>>553096195You're doing a lot of thinking to squeeze damage out of a heavy weapon, but you don't need to. Even noting no damage blessings on the relic blade as if they aren't better spent helping with the minigameTake a dueling sword and heavy attack a scab rager's head and see how that damage compares to>third hit of a light combo>after dodging>with minigame enabled>at a sixth of your healthDon't consider how much duelist or sustained assault or martyrdom would add, how much thrust would increase this, or how uncanny strike needs to be deleted, how much faster it attacks, how much easier it is to headshot with a straight nocombo poke, how much faster you move and how much further you dodge just for using a light weapon. Don't even think about how you can drop the talents heavy weapons need to compensate with like UnfalteringSo what's left? I could say heavy weapons cleave well but with flamestaff, arbite shockmaul and whatever spreads aids through a horde on scum I'm not so sure
>>553099918>noting no damage blessings on the relic blade as if they aren't better spent helping with the minigameThe heat blessings on the RB are pure meme. Cranial Grounding is only taken because it increases weakspot damage, the heat shit is barely relevant. Rampage is the only worthwhile damage blessing.Cleave is a dead stat on a weapon that already cleaves more than enough, even through havoc hitmass. All the other blessings don't really do anything.>Take a dueling swordThe dueling sword is completely worthless when it comes to dealing with dense mixed hordes. You can dance around and poke them all you want, but it only really excels at killing heavily armored targets. Also Thrust is kind of a meme blessing, as it's only useful when you're weaving out too far and thus losing DPS that you would be better at applying by just spamming the stab. I've tested this extensively. Thrust is only optimal for stealth as it lets you really, really hurt bosses.>you can drop the talents heavy weapons need to compensate with like UnfalteringDon't need it. I don't even use it in havoc, as you can easily compensate by sliding before attacking. It's incredibly comfy, don't get me wrong, and I do use it in auric, but it's more of a QoL/crutch pick than anything. I'd argue only thammer really needs it, since you REALLY don't want to be interrupted during your Thrust swing, but stealth also solves that, so what do I know?>So what's left?RB lets you actually horde clear while having perfectly serviceable single target even against armor, it's just a matter of stacking damage talents and aiming for the head. RB stealth is also a thing btw, you'd be surprised by how good that is.
>>553099678>never join coopg havoc>check profile out of curiosity>see thisHuh, I didn't know we played together. +1 -2 probably means that was havoc 40, too. Neat.
>>553093345>>553093716>>553096195>>553099918>>553100654
>>553101032just two /copeg/ scientists going at it
>>553101032this post is extremely low quality
>>553101032OOOOK AAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA A OOK OOK OKK AAAAAA
>>553101196At last, I truly see.
>>553100793sweetwhich mod is this btw?
>>553101196wise monke
>>553102073https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/565The standalone versionI believe the older version used to hook into Power DI but that thing is a resource hog and you have to regularly clear the history, losing the tracking.
>>553093124Have had that happen on Archivum Sycorax at the end where you need to run to the elevator to escape. It does lead to some cinematic moments.
>>553097179>MkXDECLINED
>>553103284>he doesn't know
>>553093345>martyrdom is abysmal dogshitDECLINED
>>553103339
You WILL come to my Havoc and I WILL impregnate you in the ass.
>hmm maybe I need a break from darkietide...>try necromunda hired gun>zip zop bip bopping around everywhere>character movement is crazier than nimble hiv cum>first time you meet an ambulance the game follows it immediately up with a 2nd>even the bull's jumping around like crazy>find two ogryns shortly after>they have moon physics tooWtf is this game, what drugs were they on to make this. It's a wild escapist break from sloptide for sure but I don't know if I can call this an authentic 40k experience
>>553103519
>>553103519that sounds like fun :3
>>553103995I got it on release and it was so janky i couldn't complete itIt had some cool map designs. Darktide could learn a thing or two.
>>553103995It's Necromunda. Even the drugs are on drugs on Necromunda so of course they move like that. Play E.Y.E. next.
>>553104283It seems to run perfectly fine now but yeah the maps are huge, the level you meet the ambulls and ogryns is a giant cargo train that mogs the one in DT. Climbing over piles of containers, grappling over huge cables and couplings to hop between cars... Mind you they give you a double jump, dodge that can be done mid-air with insane distance, wall run and the grapple hook, it's just bonkers
>>553104619>>553103995I've only heard bad things about it, but that was around release.Is it any fun?
>>553100654I'm not fast enough to waste thrust by hitting before you get even one stack. I like it since I suck at aiming and taking the extra bit of a second to hit a head saves me having to hit an extra time. Maybe you're right and it's down to personal preference and the way I like fighting fits dueling better than relic to the point of actively not having fun with it>it's just a matter of stacking damage talents and aiming for the headThat's my point, you do the same thing with the light weapon and do more damage when the heavy weapon should be at least matching it, if not beating it for the qol drawbacks it carries. I wish it didI'll have to give relic blade another go with an open mind, but what I've seen happen in situations which are so dire that without a zealot's cleave you start dying is chorus gets used so the rest of the team can fix it
>>553104470I played a bit of EYE but did not get far.>>553104763Yeah, it's a wild time. Even the enemy gangers just run at you shooting wildly, it's chaos
>>553104824>I'll have to give relic blade another go with an open mindIt takes some time to get used to the combo, and it's kind of hard to use without Unfaltering, but sliding is a huge help.For single target, it's either push followthrough -> heavy -> light (repeat), or heavy -> heavy -> light (repeat).The horde clear combo is push -> light -> heavy (repeat heavies).In general, avoid using lights as much as possible, other than the stab, which has really good damage. The heat gauge doesn't care whether you light or heavy attack, so you want to use heavies to get the most out of it. I THINK the DPS is technically slightly worse (especially if you stack attack speed), but you extend your heat gauge a ton by doing so. Obviously light spam has its place sometimes, but it's not what you should focus on.>what I've seen happen in situations which are so dire that without a zealot's cleave you start dying is chorus gets usedRelic blade's cleave is more of a medium mixed horde thing. You absolutely erase trash, and fuck up ragers and the like. Against heavy hordes, it's much more effective to use the single target combo and pretend it's an oversized dueling sword. In general, you want to hold chorus unless absolutely necessary, for the cooldown period after you hit >90% heat. A full duration chorus lets you recover ~65% heat before you can press the button again. You can obviously afford to be liberal about dumping chorus as soon as you hit high heat, and of course please do use it when a push into gunner spam is necessary.RB also has kind of retarded damage against monsters, even without unyielding on it. I wouldn't recommend putting it on either, as carapace and flak are much more important.
>>553105593Ah shit I forgot to add>combosThis is for the Mk X. I've seen people talk about the Mk II with stealth, but I don't have any experience running that, as I mostly use chorus. II's moveset is awkward for horde clear anyway, which is a major reason I even use the RB, so I'll stick with X.
>>553105793>Mk XDECLINED
>>553106031Why do you think I'm applying to your 20s when I can host my own 40s?
>>553105793Why would you ever use the Mk X lole
>>553106890>trolling outside of /b/
>>553104763that devs games are very fun, but not in any intentional orthodox way
>>553106982>/vg/ - Vidya Gaslighting
sooo, how do you check people's profile before accepting them in havoc, you gotta have a mod or is it a built in function that i've somehow not realized
>>553108153>you gotta have a mod orYes. The first two. Primarily Inspect from Party Finder.https://www.nexusmods.com/games/warhammer40kdarktide/search?keyword=inspect
>Bolty pistol can't kill a gunner in a single headshotWTF is the point of this gun?
>>553109579What class?Also it might be able to with unarmored/flak on it, depending on the class. Also Puncture will help secure kills after dealing only some 90%-odd damage.>WTF is the point of this gun?Fast swap speed, enough damage to quickly kill snipers and trappers, Puncture bleed to function as a good backup for boss damage when paired with unyielding, in case your melee is bad at it.
>>553109579Boosting the size of your explosions. Bigger grenades, bigger rockets, bigger crusher.
>>553108290thank you very much
Redpill me on the tac axes
>>553109579it also staggers and suppresses the gunner and everything around it in a surprisingly large radius. Then you walk up there and hit them to death. Or double tap if you REEEALLY need to shoot all the gunners for some reason.
>>553109871install some autoclicker like skitariuscritmaxx
>>553109871yoo poot eet oon hive scoom and cleek left moose buttoon
>>553109871Very powerful finesse weapon (that means hit heads, and build crit) with lots of stagger on the special, letting you interrupt charging mutants (hit the head, the timing is a little rough, likely doesn't work on high latency). Carried by Brutal Momentum for horde clear. Figure out which one you like for horde clear.
>>553097179Is it actually worf it to put rampage on the smelic blade or would it be better to use a second heat based blessing for more uptime like Overload or Heatsink? Isn't +36% base damage not actually that good?
>>553110003Worth taking over the shivs for a crate build?
>>553110036It's 36% strenght, aka damage + cleave + impact
>>553110139>It's 36% strenghtThe tooltip litcherally says DAMAGE not strength doebeit
>>553110036>>553110139>>553110195It's misleading because fatshark is retarded.Rampage is the best blessing on the RB, by far.
I don't want the Psyker to be nerfed
>>553109579Not every gun is designed to be a good ranged weapon for a ranged build. Many are designed to be great sidearms for a melee build, the bolt pistol is one of them. If you habitually melee everything but specials it's a fantastic tool
>>553110102dunno about that. Shivs are pretty good by default. And shivs come with better horde clear. Imo you need a dedicated melee build for the tac axes to be worth it.
>>553110249>Establish that Damage™ and Strength™ are legally distinct terms with specific meanings>Use them interchangeably anyways>Throw Power™ into the mix also while we're at it which probably means the same thing as Strength™ but honestly who knowsWell nevermind I guess it is the best then if it actually does mean +36% strength, that basically puts it on the tier of shit like power cycler and untranny strike that you are obligated to take and would have no reason to ever not take.
>>553110775Sviiden does it again.
>>553110320I'd be okay if the Inferno staff had a cleave limit. But this stat should be easily increased with Power, Strength, and Cleave.
>>553110320>>553111107The nerf that psyker needs is to its quelling. Look at how powerful quelling is compared to Sienna's overcharge venting, and she already borders on breaking the game wide open on its hardest difficulties.
>>553110320it hasn't ever been and will never be nerfed
Has anyone ever made an edit of that "if [setting] had whatsapp" image that is Darktide related?
>>553111780>psyker is never nerfed because malicetards can neither pass the build check, nor the skill check>ogryn is constantly nerfed because it's braindead and impossible to fail as in malice>by extension, hive scum will receive fuckhuge undeserved buffs when fatshark is back in office
>>553112189God I hope psyker gets another buff to its non warp base damagePlease give me another buff fatshark, make scriers even more brokenI need thisI need thisI need to break the game even more
>>553110249Do you not want wrath for the giga cleave?
>>553111107>Inferno staffOkay, this shit can be nerfed>>553111435>The nerf that psyker needs is to its quelling.You're literally killing class with this change, you nigger. The whole point of a psyker is to stay on the edge of life and explosion, if you reduce peril quelling, you will turn a full-fledged magician into just a jerk with a sword and some kind of magical abilities.
>>553112501Cleave is a pointless stat because you run out of damage faster than you run out of targets, and the RB already has heaps of cleave anyway.Cleave is kind of a bad stat on melee in general. The damage gains against super dense hordes are often insignificant and generally not worth the opportunity cost of an entire fucking blessing slot, even with some retarded +200% cleave.
>>553112547That's literally the entire problem with it though, it's a magician in a game designed around fighting with swords. The spells can be powerful and flashy only if there's enough downtime between spells that you have to sword fight at least some of the time. I guarantee you'd hate how shit they would make staves if they went down that approach.
>>553111780It got nerfed a total of once that I can actually remember slightly after the beta / during beta. Brain burst was really good at actually killing carapace so it instakilled maulers, and actually did respectable damage to crushers back then. In a kneejerk reaction of youtubers saying BB is broken and uberstrong (because no one played damnation, the people saying this were playing heresy or even malice) and it was nerfed to the sad state it is now, and its base damage numbers have yet to ever be touched, down to the damage that can't even kill a pox hound in one shot.It's not the most awful thing ever since they reworked the trees to allow blitz modification subnodes, but there was a long time where psyker basically did not have a blitz ability at all. I still wish the ability had innately higher base damage to hit breakpoints for other specials
Welcome to my TED Talk. I don't like the Scum's uzi, they might be good but their recoils are a bitch and if you don't crit it's useless
>>553113341You can kill crushers in just under a second with enough rending, you do not need to crit, in fact their crit is dogshit.You're right about the recoil tho.
>>553113406but I like vulture's mark ;(. Also which blessings do you use? I go blaze away powderburn
>>553104763The weapon customization is one thing I really like in it that others didn't mention already. There's like 8 things you customize on most guns and you can make absolute meme tier guns like a sawn-off shotgun with a sniper scope and flechette rounds.
ITS THURSDAY! WHERE IS MY SLOP!?
>>553113072>I guarantee you'd hate how shit they would make staves if they went down that approach.So you're suggesting that you literally kill an entire class of weapons because of your delusional fantasies and consider it normal?
>>553113605no amount of lipstick will improve your looks piglet
>>553091234Didn’t we already use this OP?
>>553113556>but I like vulture's markYes? None of the keystones give any rending, of course you use VM.Blaze Away is the only mandatory blessing, the second one is up to taste. I prefer Run 'n' Gun. The reload speed is probably the next best one.Obviously put carapace and unyielding on your gun for hilarious results. It's not like you ever run out of ammo against everything else, so shit like flak and maniacs is less important (but still good!)All you need to rape crushers is rending on desperado, and rending on your stimm. If you want to DPSmaxx, also take the reload node in the bottom left with 100% viscosity. You should obviously path into Sample Collector if you do this, but that's fine, since you likely want +1 blitz anyway, and scum has plenty of points to spare.
>>553113807No, I'm saying that's what you're suggesting. What other lever do you think they have that they can move if you're so adamant that quelling can't be slower? With magic being as spammable as it is there would be no other choice but to make it weak. So do you want constantly weak, or occasionally powerful?
>>553093346In VT3 by a competent stupid. One day…
>>553095889At least it’s over now equine cutie :)>>553098707>>553099678>>553099807Cute
>>553114397thanks
>>553101032reddit>>553103995>>553104763pvre jank kinotoo crazy for me though and I was kind of disappointed they didn’t incorporate more stuff from ‘munda
>>553114406>What other lever do you think they have that they can move if you're so adamant that quelling can't be slower?Do nothing? None of the staffs except the flamethrower need a nerf. >With magic being as spammableIt requires skills from the player. You'd be surprised how many people I've seen who don't want to play Psyker because the extra key is too difficult for them. Console morons are probably terrified of this.
>>553115230>You'd be surprised how many people I've seen who don't want to play PsykerNTA but it honestly feels like psyker is the most played class. There are more psyker players than any other class by far in havoc, and its always the fastest filling role.
rawket launcher so funni
>>553093367Definition of wasted potential this thing is. Damn shame.
*FART* NNNNNNIGGER!
>>553101196i hope they get featured in a game at some point. they’re so cool…>>553103519men can’t get pregnant dumbass
>>553115230>None of the staffs except the flamethrower need a nerf.You're really underselling voidblast. And yeah electro and voidstrike are already crappy, now imagine if the other two were that crappy.
>>553115969>but it honestly feels like psyker is the most played class. There are more psyker players than any other class by far in havocBecause this fucking degenerate mod requires 100% meta shit and a psyker with a bubble and a flamestaff fits that definition?Have you seen many Psykers without a flamestaff and a bubble? I'm not arguing that the flamestaff is broken and it's unpleasant to play with, but it's stupid to judge the entire class by literally one weapon.
>>553116468Electro is great up to auric maelstrom. Leftclick build is quite powerful. Extremely consistent, high DPS. It only struggles against extremely dense armored hordes, but it still kills them reasonably fast anyway. Think of it as a gun build that never reloads because gaze is your reload.
>>553116468>And yeah electroIt's a great thing if you're not a shit eater in havoc.
The only thing that MAYBE needs to be nerfed on psyker is fire staff, and that needs to be accompanied by buffs to the electric staff and the voidstrike staff. Voidblast staff is actually really good, just not as good as fire staff.
>>553116792Give shock staff +1-2 more secondary targets, or a blessing that does that. Give voidstrike +10% crit. Give fire staff a (relatively big) hitmass limit so it still cleaves extremely well, but no longer deletes an infinitely large horde.
>>553116792They'll never nerf flamestick because they only play on malice, and dot weapons like the flamestick only scale up with enemy density.
>Play melee psyker>Every single special, elite, and boss on the map hyperfocuses me from the moment it spawns>Play melee scoomer>Enemies ignore me completelyI don't care if melee psyker is technically stronger when I can survive 10x as easily as scoomer I'm just going to play him and do 10% less total DPS or whatever
>>553117101>They'll never nerf flamestickIn their game statistics, which they posted on their YouTube channel, these weapons were top 1 in terms of damage done. I think they have an idea that this shit is broken, but they don't know what to do about it yet.
just nerf the flame cleave
>>553117295Most of the damage the flamestick is dealing is against trash, which isn't as useful as it sounds because no one's lacking for damage to get rid of them.
>>553117420Lol no, these assholes are capable of zeroing out hordes sitting in a corner.
>>553117656Yeah, but so can every other class. Literally every single class has something that just makes poxxies and groaners go away. Nerfing the damage makes it impotent against actual targets, it just needs to be more expensive in peril to use I think.
>>553117826>more expensive in perilLarge enough numbers will just result in shriek psykers running gaze instead and fire the thing indefinitely anyway.>but muh bubbleI mean I guess I'm fine with indirectly nerfing bubble builds, but bubble is tremendously overrated, mostly by bad players. Doubly so in the current patch where everyone is projectile immune for ages after a dodge lol. It's good, of course, but shriek is better.
>>553118093>Large enough numbers will just result in shriek psykers running gaze instead and fire the thing indefinitely anywayThat happens regardless, if that's the problem, then maybe the abilities are actually what needs nerfing.
Every single time I've heard someone utilize voice chat in Darktide, invariably it has been a voice training troon.What's up with that? Is the genre or subject material popular among their ilk?
>>553118402Anything that attracts autists is going to attract troons because most of them are autistic.
>>553118225Putting a generous hitmass limit (something equivalent to 3-4 crushers or so, ignoring the automatic carapace hitstop) should fix the problem in the fewest steps with the least effort. You're forgetting that fatshark are as lazy as they are retarded, you're getting the easy solution, not the elegant one.Regardless, I think forcing shriek psykers to instead use gaze is actually enough of a nerf. Gaze doesn't synergize well with the flame staff.>>553118402I'm on EU and barely anyone uses voice chat there. I've heard more actual women than troons, too. The latter only on NA whenever it's dead hours on EU lol.
>>553118665Barely anyone uses it here on NA. I've heard three voices that I can remember and they were all voice training, and trying to keep it down like they had a sleeping parent one room over.
>>553119024I almost exclusively swap to NA to play havoc deep into the night/morning, and people tend to be pretty chatty there. No idea what it looks like in the other modes, so I'll have to take you by your word.
>>553114397dependancy gives armor damage via crit damage profiles
>>553119223Which is completely pointless because dual uzi crits deal baby-tier plink damage against armor anyway. It's plain not worth it, because even with 100% hypothetical crit, your ttk on a crusher is still terrible. Once you have rending, the dogshit finesse damage on the thing kicks in and crits no longer do much. VM gives you a near constant +15% damage, crit chance,a nd move speed.
>>553118402That's basically any slightly niche online game now, not inherent to wh40k or darktide. The people who use voice chat in havoc are always autists that would vastly prefer to keep quiet but dont want to lose, usually say a single phrase so quickly that its impossible to really tell what the hell they just said and then they just wont say anything again for the rest of the lobby. The only other types of people I hear use voice chat in this game on the american servers are consoleniggers who hotmic and occasionally say something in the most heavy ebonics imaginable, ceiling bird chirps and all.
>>553119456I missed that the convo was about crushers thats fair
Grinding heresy with an arby present is so fucking boring, they just do everything
>>553119876Why would you grind heresy?
I like using a crowbar with desperado and using it for boss damage and giving crushers quick brittleness
>>553119876I noticed this the other day while I was playing my new Psyker. I was trying to build up charges but he kept shotgunning down all the specials and elites.
>>553116654>want to be a space wizard>literally just spam balls instead of actually cool spellsfucking lame
>>553119980Because I don't have enough good gear or masteries for my character yet
>>553120178Huh? You can just upgrade a couple dozen profane weapons from brunt's shop to green and sacrifice them to max out mastery. You don't even have to bother with the random drops after missions either, just roll brunt until you get the stats you want and take it to hadron.I guess if you're new and you're not sitting on more materials than you can use, it would make sense why you'd still be grinding it out the hard way, though.
Sienna was so much more fun than psyker.
>>553120506I'm not that new, I honestly just forgot you can sacrifice gear now. So thanks.
I could have 1,000,000 plasteel and diamantine and I will still pick that shit up if it is right in front of me.
>>553121068You get more xp if it's the same weapon type by the way, it's usually better to discard the weapons you get from missions for the materials.
>>553121192Noted.>>553121145More is better.
>still no slop updateWHAT ARE YOU DOING FATSHARK!?
>>553121145>someone probably needs this>someone probably needs this>someone probably needs this>someone probably needs this
>>553121192>it's usually better to discard the weapons you get from missions for the materials.For some reason I only get dockets when I discard my stuff despite most of it being orange tier stuff.
Do you think the hive scum would share their funtanyl if you asked or no
>>553121024BURNING IT UP
>>553121993as long as the inquisitor is paying it's all good
I finally saw and got a 17% toughness curio. Praise the omnisiah and also fuck fatshark
>>553122091AQSHY! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!
>>553091463I look like that
>>553122196If you do your melk assignments (reroll the cancerous ones) you'll be swimming in melkbux to gamble curios with. Getting maxed curios is just a matter of brute forcing it. Even if I did need over 300k, each, to max out my zealot and scum
>>553122884>) you'll be swimming in melkbux to gamble curios with.I spent literally tens of thousands and didn't get a single lol.
>>553123424this anon does not have the omnissiahs favor...
>HELLO MY PRETTY *cackles*>nets you through 3 crushers 2 bulwarks and a horde of 50 walkers
>>553125078She's just that good
>>553125078I want the trapper to tie me up and sit on my face with her stinky nurgle pussy
>"Hahaha, I'm gonna getcha!"She's so energetic
>"...">Nets you through a wall
'ate lex breakers'ate (s)cummers'ate poxxies'luv me dog'luv me emprah''luv me lexsimple as
Consumed by his own fire ..
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>>553125078I hate when the specials literally come out of the spawn from the wall and do whatever it is that they do. It is specially fucking pisses me off when there's not even a sound effect they just pop out and do the fucking thing. Like they spawned in right at that moment that the door opens and just fucking immediately do the thing. Like the dog frame one jumping on the fucking door opening and grabbing you through all the bullshit that just came out of it, the trapper instantaneously shooting her net, or the worst is the random fucking poxburster that you just accidentally cleave into and explode
>>553126560>ATTENTION BLOCK FODDER>YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW
>>553126560n-no way I've been doing me job as veteran and plasma gunning all the heretics and grandfather apologists... It couldn't have been me sire...
>>553126560She told me she was 18!
>>553126938Why do 40kiddies love the pissfilter chatgpt AI pics so much
How many threads have you installed in the launcher?
>>553126560Verily, that hab block full of women and children were the utmost deserving of the cleansing promethium granted to me by the Master of Mankind, couldst thou not see the glint of heresy within their teary eyes?
>>553127413It's a secret >:3
>>553127416the verily?
is Remote Detonation ethical?
>>553127787Perchanceth.
>>553128170I can't stop
>>553128170It's not actually an explosion, it's an electrical discharge.
>>553128170not really. mossad coded ability
>>553129267Every unique Arbitres weapon is 100% non lethal (including K-9). To suggest otherwise is bordering on breaking the Lex.
>>553129591Also, suggesting that Arbites wargear is inneffectual at killing is against the Lex.
>>553129591wait this changes everything
I hate arbiesNot only do they make two classes obsolete, their stupid fucking dog is a four-legged demigod and constantly makes me double-take because I think it's a pox hound
>>553129763>they make two classes obsoletelmfao I'm sure it does when you play those two
>>553129763Then fight harder, reprobate.
>>553129847what's the matter arby? Finally get bored of facerolling with your p2w class?
>>553129941Ah, so you play heresy at the very most. Understandable.
>>553129763lol
>>553129763>marks you twice
Just wait until Arbites gets his seeking Executioner round bolter, then he'll be the best at everything
I really don't understand why people glaze the vraks autogun on HCUM when the shredder pistol is absolutly superior due to the high stagger
>>553130650>shredderhope you like snipers
>>553130724wdym? It's not useless agaisnt snipers it's quite accurate, just try it it's pure sexo
>>553131103>it's quite accurateIt's far fucking from it, what the hell are you talking about? I've used it myself, it's borderline useless. Unless you mean dumping 2 fucking mags at 60+ meters is somehow "accurate".
Who the fuck keeps buying this krieg slop. They look retarded and have no armor. Whats the appeal? Is the appeal that the mask makes them look like the pigs they are? Every krieg pig is also a massive shitter and wont be making it ever in my H40's
>>553131503it's just wehraboos
>>553130650The ability to aim and the higher base and finesse damage.
Finesse deez nuts
>>553131503They won't make it to your H40s because you don't have H40.
>>553131626It's the wrong world war for that though.
>>553131503Me. Got a problem with that? I don't care, I host my own H40s.
>>553132069Can you give me a quick "oink oink squee" piggy? If you do fatshark will release another krieg reskin
>>553131503>>553132429why do 60iq russians love to use pig as an insult
>>553132429I wish I had the webm of the pig eating the cookie, I'd post that since it's cute
>>553132517>60iqI think that was already implied, no need to mention it.
hello new to gamewhat are some things to practice to move from auric to auric maelstrom?
>>553131925They see a German word and say "close enough"
>>553132920Just play.
>>553132920Not getting caught by disablersAchieving that by killing disablers firstKnowing when to bail and leave someone to dieKeeping up with the better players you will likely run intoIdentifying who the best player in the current group is, and sticking to them like glue
>>553132920>auric to auric maelstrom?There's almost no difference.
I just play Auric because the only thing maelstrom does is spam more disablers at you which are already the most annoying thing in the game even wtihout the bugged audio cuesExcept for the extra bosses modifier, that one is cool
>>553132517It makes them upset when people like stuff from people they fought against
>>553132920You'll want to have a decent mastery on melee combat if you rely on shooting more than hitting since ammo is tight. If you haven't already, practice blocking and melee combos, it's also worth noting that when you're blocking, that protects you from all directions, it just costs more stamina taking hits from behind, so it's a great way to minimize damage if you need to back up or reposition.
>>553105793Yeah I don't get the Mk II Stealth meme. Unless there's a Psykanium bug (which is entirely possible), the sprint stab does the same damage on both marks, so I don't see how it matters which you use. And for anyone who isn't aware, you can shortcut to the sprint stab by tapping your block button and immediately sprinting. If you do it fast enough, you'll go into the sprint stab without needing to sprint for a full second or two.
>>553133580The director has gone sicko mode on me more often in auric histg than in any maelstrom modifier.
>>553105793>"II's moveset is awkward for horde clear anyway">heavy light repeat
>>553134619>wasting heat gauge with lights when you could have it up for longer by using exclusively heaviesYes, it's awkward.
Would auric with havoc modifiers work? Thinks like rotten armor or whatever just no health nerfs, emperors dying light etc
>>553134619>>553134761>only half as many vicious offering triggers
>>553134850Isn't that just havoc 21
>>553134934Yup. The shitter trench is unironically the most fun darktide experience.
>>553134850Depends on what you mean by work. It'd certainly be playable, and I'd probably enjoy it (especially if enemy density and boss spawns mirrored Havoc's) more than Havoc or current Auric since you'd reasonably have a lot more build variety and wouldn't have to deal with party finder. Some of the Havoc modifiers are fucking dumb or outright buggy messes (lolrituals) though and should have long been fixed, but the snow never ends. But I don't really care about the meme modifiers. I just want more enemies in Aurics. The HI Atonement missions from the last event were peak, and I miss them very much. If they brought those back with more elite spawns, I'd be very happy.
>>553134934I think thats still damnation so you dont get as many spawns
>>553135456Nah, EFL1 is what starts auric, it just lists as damnation because auric is just spicy damnation, which EFL1 does.
do we expect an update this quarter? im not sure how frequently this game gets updates
>>553132920Slow down and pay the most attention to disablers. >>553134274I swear histg is bugged or something, it genuinely throws 90 quadrillion specials at you. As a barely auric-capable shitter it's fucking miserable.
>>553135187I'm glad Atonement is gone and I pray it never comes back
>>553136326>no fun allowed
>>553136651>shrine activation mid horde>informs no one beforehand>daemonhost>wipeYeah. Fun.
>>553136871Daemons are legally bound not to hurt you if you run away.
>>553118402Weird for me it's always a black guy with an open mic talking about random shit
>>553138782The shrine daemonhosts were different from natural ones, they'd attack until the whole team was dead. Which was all but a guaranteed wipe if some retard activated the shrine without telling anybody in the middle of an ongoing horde.
My 3 Random Encounters of People Using Voice Communications:>quirky chungus couple testing arbites>true survivor hiv cum getting ledged*>"hey guys wanna get the skull?"*ceiling bird
>>553138846that's because you play on the NA serversEU servers you have:-French people giving you orders with the worst accent possible-spanish niggers playing with an open mic-2 slavs talking to eachothers with shitty microphones-german twinks pretending to be female
>>553139265>"hey guys wanna get the skull?"hey that's me! :D (when I see the team is relatively low lvl)
>>553139176the DHs from the shrines were like half HP, so super fragile because DHs already dont have a lot of HP. The real killer was people not attacking it because they think it'll despawn
>>553139531Nah, the other big killer was getting raped by everything else while trying to deal with it since it splits the team's dps output. I'm not opposed to the mechanic in principle, but considering how most people treated it, I'm glad it's gone and this is a hill I will die on.
>>553139842they literally died in a stun or two if people actually attacked it though. The only bad thing about the mechanic is that it didn't communicate to people that this DH isn't just ignorable, which is what people do about DHs in 99% of cases
>>553140351A "stun or two" is more than enough time to get swamped by everything else
>>553140351>this DH isn't just ignorable, which is what people do about DHs in 99% of casesWho the fuck does that and why?Yeah I'll ignore the DH if a retard triggered it due to being retarded because it's not worth my effort or ammo unless I'm playing vet (shout + krak lol) because the retard will die in less than 10 seconds anyway, but every other time? Kill the bitch.
>>553140480eh you're being way dramatic, if that was the case then any boss would wipe you during a horde>>553141117>Who the fuck does that and why?50% of the time I see a DH triggered people just stand in a corner looking awkward because they don't want to get corrupted and in their minds they're probably going>serves him right :)
>>553141427>a hordeThis was effectively two, because the shrine horde didn't seem to be bound by the rules that normally cap spawns
>>553091234I know Huntsman is considered arguably the worst class in VT2, but I can't help but feel like Tucson Spear + Repeater Handgun is actually legit pretty strong. It's the only Kruber class outside of Grail Knight that doesn't feel garbage so far to me. >inb4 Footknight with executioner swordStill Feels like a gimped grail knight, like most of his builds.
>>553141117>if a retard triggered it due to being retarded because it's not worth my effort or ammoThis is literally 100% of DHs outside of hammock and atonement
>>553141835Mercenary = GK > FK > HuntsmanMerc is better than GK if your team is completely incapable of killing long range specials, GK is better otherwise.
>>553127089>>553127153True>>553127351It’s just a common filter dude
>>553141835I always found the Repeater really strong for Huntsman as well, fantastic for both bossing and special-sniping, decent against elites if you can land headshots too. I usually ran it with the mace for the insane THP gain and melee safety though. Then again, i never went above Legend on a good day.
>>553136871>way more monsters>more bosses>bosses during hordes>funYes. And actually challenging. Something Auric hasn't been in ages.
>>553141835Huntsman is considered the worst career? This is news to me, people usually fellate it for having big boss dps with the asterisk of requiring a lot of skill because of its headshot reliance.I do personally hate huntsman and think it is shit, but I am open to the idea that this could be a skill issue.Of the Kruber careers I like merc the most, his tool kit makes him literally John Vermintide and with halberd or bretonnian longsword he's super well rounded and fun as fuck. GK is good too, I like him way more as a boss and elite killer than huntsman but it bothers me that he's literally too good at killing to farm decent thp from trash mobs, and FK is just kind of mid to me.
>>553142945If they're in the way and I don't trust my retards, I'll usually aggro it on ogryn, or kill it outright on vet (if it hasn't stood up yet, because kraks just rape it before it even aggros lol)
>>553143136The spear's temp HP gain insane, like it feels bugged it's so good. Plus it's really good at killing shit too. Sleeper top tier weapon IMO. >>553143042Merc has like 70% less DPS than GK. Think about this: Would you rather be GK or Merc with no items and a Chaos Warrior patrol is aggro'd on you? GK every time because he's fucking busted.
>>553143045>It’s just a common filter dudeare you retarded? it's the chatgpt image gen watermark
>>553144032>Huntsman is considered the worst career?idk about that but he's definitely not very good>big boss dpsHis boss DPS isn't that high even if you land nothing but headshots. >>553144195>Would you rather be GK or Merc with no items and a Chaos Warrior patrol is aggro'd on you?Why would I have no items? Unless you mean like bombs and potions. In either case I don't really lean either way very heavily. Probably GK, but like I said in general it's a matter of how retarded your team is.
>>553144509>His boss DPS isn't that high even if you land nothing but headshots. https://youtu.be/bqAh1DO9VjU
>>553145172This video just proves my point. In an optimal situation it has comparable TTK to other classes that are far stronger than it. Take away the optimal circumstances and those other classes would have faster TTKs, plus like I said they're stronger so they would perform better outside of boss killing. If you're really good at landing headshots it's ok but otherwise the class simply isn't very good. This video is also quite old, so I'm not sure if bow was nerfed after this or not.
I want to get better at Darktide and someone told me to watch some good players to learn some good positioning/ move tricks wich one would you recommend?
>>553147025Me nigga
>>553147025...Mr Unc maybe? His content feels somewhat cherrypicked but he frequently posts clips of clutching retards mid-wipe (and some bloopers), it might give you an idea for when and how to kite. Somewhat build specific though. All the other youtubers are kind of fags.
>>553147025Telopots
Ranged hive scum is just retardedly OP who greenlit this shit? I just ended an auric with 1.1m damage in 20 minutes. The rest of my team had 120k-190k. I had 270 elite kills, rest of my team had 25-35. Who thought this was okay to put in the game?
>>553147078I'm already watching you...>>553147264>>553147271ty I'll look for them
>>553147331>Who thought this was okay to put in the game?Fatshark, who only plays malice, and most directly looks at malice stats, which is why scum will actually receive further buffs because malicelets can't fucking play :^)
>>553147419I'm pretty sure I can make sure my teammates get 0 kills on malice playing this. There's no way this isn't even more retardedly OP on malicegood point on people being shit though it's mindboggling that I see people play this build and fail to achieve anything
>>553147331auric doesn't matter it's bad on havoc 40 lol
>>553147331>>553147078
>>553147725>it's bad on havoc 40 lolAre you retarded dude? Do you actually think the hive scum ranged build is bad on h40? Is this you joking?
>>553147627>There's no way this isn't even more retardedly OP on maliceUnbind dodge, unbind sprint, unbind your melee key, play with a controller that you hold upside down.Congratulations, you can now roughly simulate what it's like to be a malicelet.Bonus points if you can train a pet to use your ability key. You aren't allowed to use it yourself, authentic malicelets only do that by accident.>>544645880 made it to auric somehow btw. Now imagine the kind of shitter that gets filtered by malice/heresy, if you don't believe my simulation conditions.
Niggler pistol is boring as fuck *fart* *fart* *fart* bam Crusher ded wew ty Fatshark
>>553148139most of hive scums kid is so good that it's boring. Even the shivs are just a better combat blade/dueling sword hybrid that for some reason they decided should have a zealot blitz built in (but better)
>some guy keeps dying all the time whenever a horde appears>my Arbites, annoyed, says: "This veteran is an embarrassment."kek'd my soul out
>>553144315It’s a common thing for that
>>553149140>vet goes down>psyker "do not laugh, beloved."heh. heh. heh. just dodge, dudge.
>>553143136I have always used the longbow because you can oneshot bodyshot anything except CWs with it. I use the repeater on every other Kruber career but I never saw a reason not to use the longbow with huntsman.
>>553149654>I have always used the longbow because you can oneshot bodyshot anything except CWs with itWhat? On cata?
>>553113605next week
>>553149245more common with 40k tards than elsewhere
The veteran started to feel like a bit of shit after they increased the hp of enemies.
>>553149140>>553149362One of my favorite lines from the male seer when a poxhound pounces a zealot.He sometimes says>"oh, hound has the Fanatic"but he says it in a very non-chelant, non-concerned way that it perfectly sells he doesn't care
>>553152010Can't relate. Fix your build.
Man, I keep getting all these weapons but I just want an Arbites shotgun. I love the Autogun but it just doesn't do enough.
>>553152836Just upgrade the one you have.
I hate silo cluster from start to finish
>>553152836just spam brunt until you get one with the right stats and then upgrade it dipshit
>>553152010Can relate. Vet under performs despite your build.
>>553153950>infinity grenades>dueling sword/power sword>plasma gun>under performs???
>>553153134Eh, the start and end are really the only bad parts that suck and that's just because none of the retards know what to do when a level section isn't a linear corridor.
>>553154208oh yeah and >gold toughness wide range stagger shout
>>553154208nta but>>infinity grenadesIf you're lucky. If you are unlucky, you will be left without grenades.>power swordThe most overrated shit in the whole game. If you've ever played for other classes, you'll realize that these weapons are disgusting. Other weapons do not require time to charge to be effective.
>>553154514>If you're lucky.Anon I'm sorry but I have no idea what you mean. You regenerate a grenade every 60 seconds and demolition team on higher difficulties will be giving you an insane amount of grenades on top of that. You'd have to be UNLUCKY to not have an insane amount of grenades to throw.
>>553154514>The most overrated shit in the whole game.lol in your hands I'm sure.Power sword is excellent, it fucking rapes even without talent investment. Not the weapon's fault you can't fucking use it.>b-but le activate mechanicLearn to animation cancel, retard
>pox gas on auric maelstorm Guess I'm playing regular maelstorms for the next mission is
>>553147725>get 2.2mil avg instead Back2Aurics.
>>553147725trying to shit on other people for playing aurics doesn't work when you clearly don't play havoc yourself. Actually mentally ill trying to do this when you are actually an auric only player
>>553151649Not at all
>>553155883if you say so dude. I check this thread and people post 40k AI slop with the piss filter. I check the forums and there's 4-5 people posting AI shit with the piss filter. I go on the discord and people exchange their epic piss filter gens. I see no fanbase as obsessed with AI slop as this one
>join snoric in progress while doing my melks missions >vet has a wound of corruption >ping a medstation 2 meters away from him >he ignores it >2 minutes later he goes down again>we make it to another med station>ping it 5 times >he walks past it >dies 30 seconds later >i rescue him >goes down 20 seconds after >leaves game how the fuck do these "people" even clear enough damnations to unlock auric
>>553157884>how the fuck do these "people" even clear enough damnations to unlock auricplayers like you carry them
>>553157884why not carry him like a good ogryn, sah?
I don't understand assholes who complain about bad players. There's absolutely nothing to lose in this game, and I'm happy when the whole team dies, I can get a dose of adrenaline and praise if I survive.
>>553158756I like being the last one alive because I can yell slurs at the other people and they can't do anything about it because if they kick me they automatically lose
>>553158756Shut up, faggot
>>553158756bizarre main character syndromeseek help
>get netted through a fucking wallwhen are they removing this buggy piece of shit. I do not know what the trapper provides gameplay wise other than the most frustrating hitboxes you have ever seen.
Keep crying sissy
>>553158756>I don't understand assholes who complain about bad playersthat's probably cause youre one of the malicelets yourself, sorry but you should try learning the game instead of ruining it for everybody else
>>553158756I would like to play my co-op game with players who are capable of cooperating, instead of hugging the floor half the game. Is that too much to ask?>if le whole team diesGo play solo, retard, your shitters ain't watching you
>>553121880Are you capped on mats?
>553159334>553159287seek help animals>your shitters ain't watching youI collect praises from them.
>>553159574delusionaleither take your meds or overdose on them, but don't come back
>>553158756>my time is worthless, so the time of others is also worthlessFuck off
People whose time is really worth something are usually not lonely losers and have a great company to play with.Keep crying and don't forget to clean the room so Mom doesn't scold you, you fucking moron.
>dog trying to pounce you forces your perils animation to finishI think I'm done playtesting this beta.
>>553153950>>553152010Really?Maybe it's just your weapons. I'm running Power/Chain melee and Infantry Autogun in Fartric Shitstorms/Havoc and annihilate everything. Literally just hold left click without even aiming and blast ass ork dakka style.The only thing I ever have issues with are sometimes snipers because you have to crouch and sit still to hit anything at super long range
>>553161546>autoguns with the havoc ammo debuffHow, they're fun in auric but they eat ammo like a motherfucker.
>>553162801I just press E every single time I see an ammo box
>>553163752animal
>>553158756insane the asshurt this causes, I fully agreethis game is boring if everyone is good
>>553161386Pretty sure that's intentional. Did you think going into perils is a good thing?
>>553166992Read again
Did shatfart nerf shredders?Or is there some sort of stagger cap that prevents bulwarks from being knocked back?
>havoc-forged gets netted>2 of us are six feet away and already rushing to pick him up>in the 10 microseconds it takes to get the net off him he's already spam pinging the groundIs there a mod for losers to do this or is he just that fucking autistic?
>>553166992I think he's bitching because he got interrupted before he could panic a shriek to save himself from his (likely intentional) suicide attempt.
>>553167284yes
>>553167750>letting my perils hit 100 before popping scrier's>immediately explode because a dog has targeted me and has jumped Might of been a network issue but it was retarded none the less.I do love how you retards just come up with the most insane imaginative stories to make everyone sound irrational.
how come late night EU players are the worst fucking retards I've ever met? Why unemployed niggers aren't good at that game with all the free time they have to train?
>>553168078>literally the same shit is "imaginative storytelling"holy nigger
>>553168245It doesn't matter how much time you have when your IQ is 80
>>553168646>nooooooooo I have to depict you as an irrational retard or I get upset :(I'm just better than you. Can't help that.
>>553168769What part of that was calling you an irrational retard you overly defensive faggot?
>>553168245because theyre saars, not actual euros
>>553168245why do you think you're playing with europeans?
>>553168245>>553168861>>553169593woops my bad I was on the NA east server :^)
>>553168245>>553168861>>553169593oops shit it was actually South America server :3
Olé arriba quieres un kebabtaco jefe? ayayayaya!
I will not enter the evacuation plane without all my comrades, we are not abandoning anyone.
>>553171903*votekick you*
>>553171958>votekick fails
>>553171903>only one player makes it to evac>cutscene shows all players (even bots) evacuatingDumb hill to let yourself unalive on.
>>553172407But he's alive clearly.
>poxburster jumps at teammate>changes direction mid-air, doing almost a full 180, and hits me
>>553158756I don't care about losing in aurics (though can't say I lose often).Losing in havocs when you grind your own assignment sucks though. You have like 30% chance for director to not fuck you with impossible spawns, and when you lose these runs because of shit players you are doomed to demote. Because other 70% you lose either way, bad players or not.Used to be even worse when every other assignment was broken and would guaranteed crash.Of course you niggers don't care when you get carried to h40 for free.
>>553171958I've never seen this in all the time I've been playing lol.
what is the veteran's job in the team? like seriously, i went from a dps on auric missions top of the scoreboard and all to a support bitch on havoc 40. The only person i can match is the ogryn, flame psyker and zealot are miles ahead of me
>>553176621The Team Captain (pure center tree Commissar)
commissar stronk
hell yeahthis goes hard
>>553177345>tfw saw a veteran who took kraks but didn't take tinkerer>no lie it did less than half of a crusher's hp>stood there in disbelief
>>553176621>what is the veteran's job in the team?Special/gunner sniper, gold toughness supplier and dedicated anti-crusher/pack of elites guy (krak grenades) That's if you're on havoc 40 anyway, below that you just do whatever and kill stuff
>>553176621If you can pick your party, whatever you want.If not, your priority is to kill snipers and gunners that are farther away (scum/arbites will handle the ones that are close). Also aggro pre spawned enemies before retards on your team rush to them and trigger bosses and horde.The problem is that most of the time you will not be able to keep firing because retards on your team will spread out far and you will be forced into melee. You will have to switch to melee and defend a psyker. Your team will still blame you for not shooting 2 gorillion gunners they triggered even if it's their fault you can't do it.After psyker kills the horde while you protect him, you slowly move to rescue point and rescue your retards. But you will probably die to 3 bosses before you get there.
>>553178824some people just aren't cut out for it
>need one mission with no deaths to finish weeklies >drop down to heresy for an easy run >7 deaths between two players during the last part of dreykoIt was not, in fact, an easier time. To be fair, two of those deaths were from a burster coming out the door right into the guys with no warning.
am i the only one who plays smoke grenade on 40? it is a psyker bubble and a crutch for pub teams on havoc 40>>553176621yes your job is to shoot specials/snipers/gunners and protech the psyker>flame psyker and zealot are miles ahead of meNO SHIT, double flamers are very good on havoc 40. I've never seen a veteran top scoreboard before in all 8 of my 40 clears
What did those stupid cocksuckers do to the fucking dogWhy is this shit jumping at you without delay and sound through literally a crowd of enemies
>>553180414judging by your description, they did nothing
>>553178824Whut. I'm pretty sure I've tested on a couple separate occasions after the health bump, and I didn't need Tinkerer to kill Crushers. It mostly helped with boss and proximity damage. Maybe I'm losing it
>>553180817I don't know what to tell you, I was in absolute shock and he never threw a krak for the rest of the game.
>>553175940Consider yourself lucky. It happened to me once because I can only assume the three other guys were in a party and wanted someone else to join the game.
>>553177525goddamn i need sex with that>>553177745wow they look like good strong men who get shit done
>>553180817you need tinkerer to kill crushers with kraks
Why is Space Marine 2 more alive than Swedish shit.Their game is objectively more boring.
>>553184297Its normie bait with spesh muhrin paint on it.
>>553184297The aesthetic is just more appealing, I guess?
>>553184297It's a better game with better devs.
>>553159469>Are you capped on mats?I got like 400-500k plasteel and around 200-300k diamantine.I am fully capped on dockets though and have been for a while.
>Try playing melee psyker in hi-intensity snoric and snailstroms in order to learn it>Every match has 2-3 retarded cattle scoomers who can't clear hordes, can't shoot specials, and can't kill armor>Forced to do everything myself>Burn through my entire ammo supply three times over killing every gunner and special on the map since they can't kill anything with infinite their ammo>Solo bosses because they deal jack shit boss damage>Eat shit to a pack of 8 maulers and 4 crushers because they turned and ran after seeing them>Get called shit and told to stop going down
>>553184131I just tested it again. You do not. But only if you can get enough global damage bonuses elsewhere.
>>553195094>Burn through my entire ammo supply
>>553147025Youtubers aren't good players because they're splitting their attention between playing and yapping about random shit. They're "good" at the game, meaning they wow people who don't play anything above heresy. Watching ecelebs won't make you better at the game, actually playing the game and practicing will.
>>553195320Yes I was using laspistol on melee psyker what the fuck else am I supposed to use
scum with infantry autogun is fun
>>553196323NTA, but I rarely shoot ranged enemies on melee builds/classes, and when I do, it's predominantly Reapers (especially groups of Reapers) in open-ish terrain. I don't play Psyker a lot, but when I do, it's to go SG greatsword, and it's totally doable to just sprint slide your way to pretty much every gunner/shooter pack. If you're really going through that much ammo, I think you're probably shooting too many ranged enemies.
>>553196521If you had read the original post she was responding to then you would have seen that the entire point was that retarded scoomer cattle are not pulling their weight which is forcing me to do everything on a build that is suboptimal for doing everything
>>553196892Okay, and? I clearly wasn't talking about anything to do with your frustration with your team.>Yes I was using laspistol on melee psyker what the fuck else am I supposed to useThat's what I was responding to, anon. The response is: stop shooting the basic shooters and gunners, and hit them with your sword, you absolute buffoon.
>>553196957Okay so now that I completely ignore gunners and just run across no man's land and die, I have now only used my entire ammo supply twice over from killing every special that spawns. My problem is solved, thank you for your incredible and not completely retarded insight. Feel free to stop responding now since you have proven your skill at the game.
>>553197779>what am I supposed to do to not use so much ammo>you're probably shooting enemies you don't need to>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEk>just run across no man's land and die>still doesn't know how to close on ranged enemiesAnon...I can't think of a time period in this game where it's been easier to close on ranged enemies in Auric. Learn how to fucking sprint slide effectively. I wasn't shitposting when I said you shouldn't be needing to shoot ranged enemies very often.
>>553158756>why do you like playing with a team in a team based game????
>>553195094If you can't melee gunners then you have no business being in aurics
>>553158756>there's absolutely nothing to loseExcept time.
>>553195094>can't clear hordes, can't shoot specials, and can't kill armorAll of that is your jobMelee psyker is not a thing, it's called a gunpsyker
>>553184297>why is space marine more popularCause its space marines and wh40k is about space marines, everything else in the setting exists to either die to or worship space marines. Anytime a space marine is not in the story every character should be asking "Wheres the space marines?".
>>553198935>Melee psyker is not a thingScryer's Gays melee Psyker is absolutely a thing, and it shits out damage with the Force GS. Stop being retarded.
>>553198935Shut your mouth before i shit in it
>>553199012This but unironically
>>553198935>Melee psyker is not a thingYour malicelet is showing
>>553147025There's no good positioning, there is map knowledge. That's how bad players do havoc 40, they loop ledges for hours until director gives up and stops sending hordes. Knowing places where you can loop and trigger locations is probably what "positioning" means in this case.If we talk about actual positioning, there is no need to watch anything, you just go with your team and always fall back when shit gets too hot. And always prioritize spawns in your back so you have a place to fall back to. Worst thing you can do is run forward to trigger more shit when your team is drowning in shit. Not rushing into the open when surrounded by gunners should be obvious.>movementRatOCE but you won't replicate it. Unironically tranner I guess, he likes yapping about how you should always use movement tech and demonstrates it in psikhanium.
>>553198935>Melee psyker is not a thing, it's called a gunpsyker>the highest dps setup in the game isnt real????The gun is there purely because its faster to swap to than a staff and pick off a problem special so you can go back to your melee faster, since scriers shits out such an unreal level of finesse and crit that your melee deletes anything in the game.
>>553147725>destroying packs of maulers and ragers without dots in a game mode where every other modifier nerfs dots is le bad
>>553198078>>what am I supposed to do to not use so much ammoAt no point did I say anything approaching that. You are getting weirdly attached to a throwaway line about having to use a lot of ammo in order to do someone else's job and acting like that was the entire point of my post.
>>553199012Even doe we rape them deeply
>>553199642Who are you fooling? >>553196323>"what else am I supposed to use" in response to a guy joking about your ammo consumptionYes, yes my paraphrasing wasn't perfect. This suddenly negates the fact that you shouldn't be shooting all the gunners in the first place. Continue blaming everything on your shitty teammates because your massive ego made of paper mache can't handle the teeniest bit of criticism.> someone else's job Killing elites is everybody's job. Same with specials. You don't get any sort of role segregation in Aurics unless you roll with a premade that wants to play like that. Wake the fuck up, moron.
>>553199157>>553199358It's the same fucking build, retards.There are like 3 nodes in the entire tree that work for either melee or non-warp ranged but not bothIf you want melee psyker but don't build for gun, you must be retarded.
>>553184297darktide launched years ago to abject failurespace marine 2 was a functioning game at launch
>>553200273Kill yourself, sperg
>>553200072>you shouldn't be shooting all the gunners in the first placeAgain, where are you getting this strawman from? I mentioned shooting gunners once and you have latched onto this as if my entire post was "WTF guys I picked psyker and decided to shoot every enemy on the map why am I out of ammo?" You are so autistic you cannot wrap your mind around the idea that you misunderstood a post so now you have to triple and quadruple down on your nonsensical and irrelevant response.
>>553200273*shits in your mouth*I told you to shut it
>>553200516They're your own words. If you didn't want someone telling you to stop shooting gunners, consider not including gunners in, "Burn through my entire ammo supply three times over killing every gunner and special on the map." If you don't understand what you're telling us when you say that, learn to read. All anyone has to do to see it is scroll up. >you have latched onto thisYes, that's what my initial comment was about. It seemed like you were doing something slightly wrong, so I told you, assuming you were a newer player. It's not my fault you're in full denial mode about it. Well, I do keep humoring you. That is on me. But it's something to do while I watch youtube.
>>553200997You just cream-pied his asshole to the fucking brim with this post
>>553200997So your suggestion is that not shooting gunners anymore will fix being matched with 2-3 floor huffing scum players who run away from every engagement every match?
>>553201554No, anon. Do you truly not understand the concept of only commenting on a portion of something? Do you think I need to respond to the entirety of your post or not at all? That's not reality. Your teammates' lack of skill does not preclude your own errors, nor does it affect the situation or circumstance that I refer to.
>>553201667I guess I just don't see the point of commenting completely irrelevant "advice" and acting as if that would change the situation at all
>>553202432Probably 'cause I don't care about how bad your teammates were. Most teammates you get will be mediocre at best. It's like reading a post from an Englandoid talking about rain. I wasn't going to say anything until your somewhat petulant response to the other guy. Nothing would've changed that situation. Your teammates still would've sucked; you still would've made a mistake fighting Maulers and whatever else; and you still would've overspent ammo when you didn't need to. You don't see the point of my mentioning it. I don't see the point in you taking this so extremely personally on an anonymous, doujinshi discussion forum.
I never shoot my gun. I run to every enemy and kill it with my sword. If I can't reach an enemy then that enemy is not my problem. Stop asking me to shoot my gun. If I wanted to shoot my gun I wouldn't be playing melee veteran would I?
I dont understand why people order stuffed crust pizza, crust is so much better without cheese ruining it
darkpoop
Ain't understand people who order 'za without creampied crust, so much tastier.
>>553202898So I'm also not allowed to fight maulers? Please give us your entire god gamer guide to melee psyker, I have been taking notes so far that I can't shoot gunners and now that I can't fight maulers. I suppose I just need to add more movement speed to my build so that I can run away from them even faster than the scum can?
>>553195094>>Burn through my entire ammo supply three times over killing every gunner and special on the map since they can't kill anything with infinite their ammoAh, i see the problem. This is why you bring Assail.Assail has infinite ammo. It synergizes perfectly with melee psyker. It completely negates gunners and specialists. They become a joke. If there's a group of 10 gunners, just spam light shards. If they're spread around i like to use the heavy throw. If assume you're running Scriers with Unbound (the last node). This will prevent you from self-exploding. Now you can save your gun for heavier targets like Reapers and Monstrosities. This should solve your problem.
>>553195094Also sorry about your retarded teammates not appreciating your efforts. It a rough world out there.
see you next class reveal/xmas
>decide to watch jeetinald video on havoc 40>his opinions more or less align with my own, with only minor differences that I would disagree onUm, bros... Is it time for me to go full schizo contrarian because the brown person is agreeing with me?
>>553205606Is reginald actually brown? I have only ever seen people call him brown in this general with no evidence
>>553205691There was a whole doxx about him using the same email or some shit on some porn website, which was then linked to some social media account or something. I don't care enough to find it.
>>553205785That's weird, I would have expected him to be a caucasoid since he mentioned shooting guns irl in several of his videos and he is the only jewtuber I have seen not insert leftist political commentary into any of his videos. I could see him being a demi-nig or a Dark Mexican or something like that but it would really shock me if he actually is a jeet.
>>553204784Melee psyker absolutely shit on maulers, so idk why other anon is suggesting you shouldn't fight them. With a force greatsword and all the buffs online you can reliably 1-2 shot maulers. The cheat-code against armor blobs is the voidblast staff. It makes everything fall to the ground. But it's optional. If you bring a gun you still have the force-push move on your greatsword which helps a lot.
>>553206067>>553205691>>553205785Archive: >>460939570
>>553206523>archives purged by Israelwell well well
I tried watching the Mr. Sneed video about how to fight captains to see if he would spread any horrible misinformation and I had to turn it off because he kept calling the power sword a plasma sword and it was pissing me off
>>553206894i know this feel
>>553206957You would think after 1 gorillion hours in game and calling yourself the most popular Darktide youtuber that you would at least be able to get basic terminology from the setting right. I know he has said before he knows nothing about 40K and I have to wonder why he even plays this game if that's the case. I don't see how anyone could put up with all the horseshit in this game and the horrible devs if they didn't already have an interest in 40K to keep them invested.
>>553206894>how to fight captainsIs it really that fucking hard?>kite melee twin into a convenient corner>gangrape it with damage amps until it dies before it can even stand up>kite ranged twin into close quarters>do the same thing>for regular captains, throw down some kind of crowd control aoe or have the psyker deal with it, occasionally shoot disablers, while everyone gangrape stunlocks it in meleeAny competent team with Skullcrusher and every class' available damage amp on it just invalidates captains. Only captain + 1-2 monsters can become problematic, but then you just kite until the monsters are dead. Maybe dedicate the one tanky guy to distracting the captain, map location permitting. I've sat in a corner tank-and-spanking h40 captains solo as arbitrator while my team dealt with the monster spam.
>>553207532>>kite ranged twin into close quartersthe mine thrower? in close quarters? Sounds bad. But I agree with the rest. I assume his video is aimed at noobs. I don't think you're his target audience in this case.
>>553206894That's pretty autistic of you.
>>553207896>the mine thrower? in close quarters?Yes. The mines aren't really a threat as long as you keep the perimeter clear. Obviously don't pull the fucker into a tight corridor or back yourself into a corner, but with enough room to maneuver, the bombs aren't a big deal. Plus, as I said, you just DPS rape the fucker into an inescapable stunlock. Shield pops -> gets knocked on his ass -> you have your back to a wall so you keep swinging -> shield goes up before he stands up -> shield pops again before he throws another mine -> repeat
>>553208981thanks, now i don't have to watch the video
>see sniper laser>hide behind a 1/16ot of an inch piece of sheet metal>was unironically blessed by Papa E because it stopped the high powered rifle's roundConfused but also The Emperor protects.
>>553210325This would be extra funny if you were playing ogryn.
>>553206894it is a plasma swordyou can tell it apart from a power sword because it glows orange instead of blue
>no one playing scum anymore in havoc>despite being one of the best classes for itcmon, where did the scum players go
>>553211210What are you talking about, every time I open party finder there is a scum in every single party
*happy baby elephant noise*
I don't even smoke but I need a cigarette after this matchUnrelated but how do you build Crusher on Zealot? Skullcrusher + Thunderous, or Opportunist? Marty or Piety?
>>553212742i prefer skullcrusher + slaughtererer
>>553212742
>>553212742You swap to relic blade.
>>553212806Alright, thanks anon, I'll give that a try>>553212941But Relic Blade is boring
Ever take such a massive shit you’re still riding the post-orgasm high 15 minutes later? No wonder people join Nurgle.
>>553213194Quite rare but it happens.You know what this means, right? It means your ass is primed for anal this evening.
>>553213286Son, I'm not gay so keep your sissy jokes for your discord friends
>>553212742>7 machinery operated>2 crate picked up>156 offense scorewaow
>>553213421>I'm not gayi find this hard to believe after what you just said but alright
>>553213483shitting was a manly pleasure way before the invention of gays in the 80's by the CIA
>>553212742>that useless crap on the boardDamage, kills, and damage taken is all you need.
>>553212742Skullcrusher + Hammerblow, make sure you have Against All Odds talent. You will have terrible ttk on Crushers but you will be able make use of skullcrusher against all elites.It's a much better weapon in the hands of Arbites now with it's talent pool.
I don't use scoreboard.
>>553213671You have a lot of nerve coming here with that bullshit of yours, buddy.
>>553213172Supposing that were true, how is the crusher any less boring?
>>553213882I just judge my performance on whether we clear or not.
>>553213671is that even legal?
>give everyone toughness with shout>throw 2 krakk grenades into crusher group and also kill 2 armored ragers>skirt around and melee trash mob>revive a teammate>go down>the rest of them all go down shortly after>this was my fault because i'm not their personal friend and not in their discord calllove this.
>>553213959>MY performance is based on if I get carried or lose
>>553214356Console players don't have necks. The only look straight ahead.
>>553213959I think there's a barrel with your name on it, why don't you go check ot out?
I hate every single vet keystone. What's the right build for me?
>>553214861You're in luck because veteran doesn't need a keystone to be powerful.But if you're playing h40 it would be nice if you put 1 point into focus target. It makes those bosses die a lot faster.
>>553214861A bunch of builds. Most really. Some builds basically take you down to the middle keystone anyways so it's just a free damage boost whenever you remember to use it.
>>553214861can't really go wrong with any of them
>>553213920Because I have barely used it so it is still relatively new and shiny to me
>>553215031>>553215104>>553215214Like this? Where should the last point go?
>>553215696Anywhere but Field Improvisation
>She genuinely unironically uses One Motion on anything but (maybe) bolterDECLINED
>>553215696That works. Depends on which weapons you're using.
Is this true?
>>553214429>>553214537I actually play well.
>>553216087i just fact checked it and it turns out it's true
>scorebottoms having another melty at someone posting yellow numbersjej
>>553215696Am I being trolled?I feel like I'm being trolled.
>>553215912Probably plasma and then for melee either knife, power sword, power falchion, shock maul, or MAYBE the foldable shovel.
how do I know if my Ogryn is impactful?
>>553217060Did you take this skill?
>>553216087It's meant to match the underwear the sister has on
>>553217060If you can lead the way into the enemy as the tip of the spear, and the team manages to follow, you're impactful.If you're lagging behind and kinda just picking off a mutant here and there, that's something anyone can do and it's not a good use of ogryn imo
>>553216087>Big E is ignorant/complicit with homo mind virus in his most fanatical ranks
>>553217327This post made me want to try Ogryn. How would you build one for that role?
>>553212742It's unviable without martyrdom because of uncomfortably low attack speedAnd it's unviable without rending so better take it on arbites which has both attack speed and rending not attached to a keystone that makes you sacrifice 80% hp
>>553217442As long as you stay within the left and middle lane of the talent tree you should be fine. One obvious weapon choice is the slab shield + a talent called Attention Seeker. It makes it so if a shooter shoots your shield, for some reason they stop shooting and enters melee instead. Also works on shotgunners. Doesn't work on machine gunners.
>>553217783>TOOOOOOONKINGdude just slide forward and use your ability, don't waste a skill point like that
>Gryns true strength is to amp everyone elses damage to ludicrous levels so they can kill everything more quicklyIs playing ogryn the most cucked role?
>>553217875>co-op games>is cooperating cucked?Don't you have a military operation to get your legs blown off in, slavgroid?
>>553217442Taunt, power maul and stay in middle and left lanes like the other anon saidI didn't try brittleness on power maul but that might be a good idea as wellAlternatively you can try bull rush, it's better at staggering bosses for applying skullcrusher to them, but taunt is better for everything else
>>553217859It's not toooking it's aggroing. Big difference. It's a really good skill point. It also leads to the 250% push power skill which is exceptional
>>553217875arbites can do thatany class with access to skullcrusher and stagger (literally every class) can do that
>>553218120>wasting time blocking when you could be hitting things>wasting time pushing when you could be hitting thingsNeither skill is good. You should be sliding forward and pressing the taunt button.
>>553218194It's not wasting time it's literally saving time because it makes the enemy rush out of cover and run into melee
>>553218297What part of>pressing the taunt buttondid you not understand, retard?
>>553218191my Ogryn mogs you
>>553218341does taunt have infinite range? no? Then shut the fuck up. Fuck if with your "my way is the only right way to play" faggotry.
>>553218484My way of playing ogryn doesn't involve wasting 2 skill points that can be put in damage skills that either hit important ranged breakpoints, or allow you to deal significantly more melee damage.But sure, go SUPPOOORT the team by TOOOONKING shotgunners "out of cover" as if that ever fucking mattered lmao
>>553218297Don't listen to that retard, breaking shooter AI is immensely helpful, doubly so on Ogryn where that's what you die to half the time if your team wants to take big open rooms slow
>>553218578>that's what you die to half the time if your team wants to take big open rooms slow>go walk up to enemy>whack>receive a fuckload of toughness>whack>receive another fuckload of toughness>press taunt button>receive a fuckload of toughness>veritably drowning in toughness>taunt pulls enemies out of cover>oh look, more shit to whack>implying you can die while doing thisDo malicelets really?
>>553218074>I didn't try brittleness on power maul but that might be a good idea as wellIt's shit. It doesn't apply to everything hit by the blast, only the one thing you hit with the club.
>>553218698That's why I specified team pace. And big open room.
sex between Catfish's gigantic milk jugs
>>553218851You can either sit around like a faggot playing the minigame of "what enemy do I block next?" and pretend like your waste of a skill point is somehow useful, or you take picrel, pull out your ranged weapon, and quickly brace that if you're desperate for toughness regen for some reason (because you're too slow, bad about positioning, and thus not hitting enemies)
>>553219012>why waste your skillpoint on this better defensive node when you can waste your skillpoint on this also pretty good defensive nodeYou're not sat around holding your shield out, you just use it for like a second or two and bam you turn 6 super spread out shooters off. It's also some nice insurance against bombers and flamers where you might not have the time to heavy them (because you fucked up or, any myriad of reasons) and it'll turn those off too. It's just a very solid utility/defensive talent overall with the shield. I don't get why you're so pointed about it, anon.
>>553219423ok Hank
>>553219423It's even better than you're selling it as, because it even aggros snipers and locks them into a tap dance kick animation.
>>553218791oh so it's misleading description as usual
>>553218567you can still get all the damage nodes you want. Those two talents compliments an aggressive playstyle.
>let some fag tilt me into stopping for the dayme oogaIt's so over for me.
>>553214356its just true in every game unfortunately. there is a reason why pc players can't even turn crossplay off. because every single one of us would. its not even just about the gamepad like many assume. its uhhh...other factors.
>>553220205show drip
>lasgun>no shock trooper>no field improv>no ammo aura>most ammo taken>lowest damage dealt>lowest specialist kills>lowest elite kills
>>553217875>4 classes with teamwide damage amp>literally never seen this comp in havocAZOV new meta
>>553220673>AZOVfucking kekseems like a great lineup too
>>553219840I wouldn't be surprised if the devs are retarded and oblivious to how it works>>553220673>no psykerit's shit sorry chud
there's a crazy thing called coherency that activates when you're close to teammates, but many redditors insist that every single ability related to it is bad. so every class has the ability to amp up the entire team but i guess you get heckin downdooted if you want to take advantage of it.
>>553220963fireteam apologist please go and stay go
>>553220912>>no psykerThe ogryn fills that role with rumbler spam, and the vet can bring frags outside of rotten armor.>but no le bubbleLMAO!
>>553220963Aura bonuses are not multiplicative, you silly willy.
>>553220963I've never seen a single person deny the usefulness of survivalist, demo team, seers presence, psykinetics aura, bruiser, or benediction, so I think you might be having a psychotic episode.
>>553221163>>553221383Deluded retards who go down 5 times per mission and blame everyone else because they refuse to stick with the team.>>553221478I have seen several dozen. Just what you see does not account for every person on the planet.
>>553221381>assooming I mean bubble>im-fucking-plying the trash rumbler build comes anywhere close to inferno shriek
>>553221790>>im-fucking-plying the trash rumbler build comes anywhere close to inferno shriekIt can deal somewhere around ~70% of the damage of the average shriek psyker when played well. The frag vet can make up for the rest of the difference.What you're implying is that you're too retarded to win without le op crutch meme class.
>>553221658>missed the point completelyAtoma is not sending their best.
Have you ever used the Terminus Warrant Keystone for Arbeetus?
>>553222407I tried to make a toughness dispenser build work but it was not very good.
>>553222407Yes, it's awful.The selling point is that Terminal Decree is awesome for sharing toughness regen, but your stacks vanish within picoseconds of actually playing the game, so it's actually dogshit.Even the reload speed, while technically quite nice, just eats shit compared to the extra cleave from Forceful.
>>553222407Yes, for precisely as long as it took to finish both penances.
>>553222513>>553222561wouldn't the +50% ranged cleave be great for that beetus shotgun?
>>553222561Right, I forgot most users here are probably retarded and neither play nor actually test anything.>Terminus Warrant grants cleaveI know, but Targets Acquired stacks multiple times with itself, and is easy to do.>>553222657Didn't get the inb4 in on time...
Arbiter does no damage
>>553222792Delete This.
>>553222792lmaooooo
psykers have no girlfriends
>>553223076psykers ARE the girlfriends
>>553223130You goddam right
>>553223130Nobody who plays this game has a girlfriend
>>553223534SHUT UP!
>>553223534I have a girlfriend (male)
>>553223607Anon, that's called a boyfriend and you're gay!
>>553223130I made my psyker a short girl because she's weak and defenseless and needs big burly men to protect her
>>553223406wish this mask was available for other classes the edgy skull version from the deluxe edition doesnt count, it hides the autistic part of face tattoos and keeps the nice eyemakeup
>>553223790aye it's retarded we only have 2 eye makeup options and it's either battle sister or unemployed crack whore
MR PRESIDENT!GET DOWN!!!
>>553223723
>>553224803when you shoot an ogryn in the head but only hit his brain
>>553224840
>>553225972why are darktiders so obsessed with swines ?
>>553226317They are Russian.
>>553226317Cuz that's what they are, sister.
>>553223534I think it makes my mother sad
>>553223534anon's gf hereyou're wrong
>>553226416Me when my grandmother is mad that she will never have great grandchildren because I am an incel freak
>>553226484show tits or you're fake
>>553226484youre my gf too?
>>553223534Wow I don't have an emotional and financial black hole in my life, how depressing, this is just horrible.
>>553226691*sigh* fine, if you insist....
>>553226868wtf that's not a bird, that's a woman
>>553226961wtf that's not a woman, that's Catfish
How are operatives ordered in the character select menu?
>>553228215dick size
>>553228215I honestly don't know, it's not by level, it's not by true level, it's definitely not alphabetical, or even by order of creation. It just looks random to me.
>>553226849Holy incel cope
>>553226849not like you had the choice lmao
>>553228768Yeah I can't parse it. I have four characters, my oldest is not first or last, they're not alphabetical. I figured maybe it was by operative type but I find it hard believe Psyker would be first in the list.
>>553229141Nah, fully voluntary, had a string of bad relationships before I just stopped bothering. Only normalfags can find happiness in relationships, if you're any degree of weird, a relationship will just be miserable because the vast majority of women have a thing about nagging men away from the things they like. Ideal love is like one in a million odds for weirdos like me, sometimes you're just not cut out for it, wish it were different, but it's not. You won't give this a serious response anyway, just double down, so whatever.
>>553229439It's not by operative type because my scum is second on the list and the arbitrator is last, and I have one of each class. Just about the only thing that makes sense is that the Vet is at the top and that's the first one I made, but the arbitrator was the second one I made and he's down the bottom.
I just found this 4 year old webm in my files, what do I think of it?
>>553229856this still happens
>>553229856it's something
>>553228215Good question honestly. I know for a fact that I made my zealot, then veteran, then ogryn, then finally psyker in that order during the beta. I made arbie and scummie when they launched, and my current order is: Zealot, Arbie, Veteran, Scummie, Psyker, Ogryn. It seems to be completely random.
>>553223534True. I have a wife :)
>hive scum, some fucking homeless druggie, can sustainably kill hordes with their guns>veteran, THE posterchild trained gunman of the entire 40k intellectual property, cannot
Huh, weird. When I am leveling my new zealot who has very few tools for dealing with snipers/gunners, I suddenly don't have a full team of green circle chasing 420 no scope legends deleting them the instant they spawn in.
Hello.Blades of Faith + Flamer, or Immolation Grenade + Boltgun?
>>553233107Never flamer outside of havoc, because your retards will never shoot faraway snipers and bombers, and those need to be dealt with. Unless you enjoy picking up your retards every couple shots.Also knives can cancel the equip animation on bolter, so they're still good with it.
>>553228215ZealotOgrynPsykerArbitesScumVeteran
>>553233764Very wrong. My character selection order is Psyker, Veteran, Zealot, Ogryn.
>>553231945Dookie
>>553228215It's entirely random.My first character was ogryn but he is under my veteran character which is the 4th character I made. Arby is my 5th and at the bottom of the pile.
>>553228215Internal character ID, alphabetical. You don't know the internal character ID, and it starts with a random letter.
>>553233764ZOPASVhm...a cluebut to what
>>553233107flamer and knivesclass unique weapons >>>> the rest
>>553234141Not a damn thing because my operative order isPZOV and the order I made them in was VOZP
>>553234141Stop trying to activate sleeper agents!
>>553234218PZOV, VOZPtranslated russian cyrillc maybe?foreign agents?the FSB involved?joint terrorism?5 billions to israel?
>>553234213Agreed but I consider boltguns to be zealot exclusives.
>>553234448Coincidence.
>>553234496no such thing as a coincidence!its all connected!solving it will reveal the new clas!
>joins my lobby>requests that we do not die>kills me by pushing me off the map with a pox burster that I was going to shove>leaves once I dieWhat manner of fuckery is this
>>553235220An entitled malicelet tourist expecting to get carried without putting in any effort.
BTW I voted that we should not punish leavers.
>new to game>told Ogryn is the hardest operative to learn because you feel bullied by the game or something>find Ogryn easy as fuck due to how easy it is to keep toughness up>make a Veteran next>game feels way harder and I feel like I'm made of paper>same experience for Psyker and Zealot (but Psyker felt a lot stronger)Think I'm going back to Ogryn once I finish leveling Zealot but idk Ogryn just felt like a cakewalk.
>>553236168Ogryn has no damage. You are an enemy magnet and a toughness battery.
>>553236168Ogryn has to play aggressively and does far better in melee where the toughness nodes work best, this playstyle is anathema to most because they want to use the funny Ogryn guns and don't have the reaction speed for melee.
>>553204784Mad Cuz bad.
>>553236454>Ogryn has no damageRetard
>>553236860Oh, excuse me, Ogryn's damage is given to other players.
>>553236928>has a bunch of damage nodes and some attack speed>benefits from its own damage amp>"has no damage"Double retard
>>553208981A vet with yellow stim can also shout him over and over on a loop with some extra gold toughness for flavor and safety.
>>553236168Playing ogryn in low diff teaches you the wrong lessons.
>>553237060No, you are the retard.
>>553217875>enemies break upon you like waves on a rock It's always funny to do a shield or pickaxe heavy and just see the mass of bodies thrown aside.
>>553234141>>553234448>>553234670cute detective!
Love me relic blade mk10, love me bolter, simple as.
>>553223534truth>>553226484>>553231585yeah right>>553229569you seem sincere I believe you :)
>>553217425>>553216087It’s fake they’re all straight and love cock
>>553214356I don’t think I’ve ever seen a good Xbox player. Hell I barely even see them period. PSbros are alright, at least the few that I see in aurics/havocs
>>553239918It should be the opposite since the game has been out for longer on xbox.
>>553213604finally someone who has their facts straight>>553206067>>553205691he could have also been lying man. if you listen closely he definitely has a lot of the same affectations in his voice
Guy leveling vet from last week, thanks for the tips on lasguns. Laspistol is tons of fun holding down fire and banging weakspots for 30 seconds at a time without reloading, killing specials and elites before they even get close enough to be a problem. Now I'm noticing on my other characters when my team doesn't do that lol. Knife feels good with the mobility, have tried to go back to dueling sword a couple times for the stronger single target damage but its hard to switch off of the crack head 5 dodges and run speed.
Plasma gun is the coolest vet weapon and I'm glad it also happens to be the strongest.
>>553239218I don't care for the Zealot thematically
>conga line of crushers>chorus them>look around>team keeps wailing on hordes without a care in the world
>>553243557Yeah, I just made a zealot recently and I'm getting that, I hoped it was just a thing up to heresy though, I'm gonna fucking lose it if it's still the case on Auric.
>>553243705I am currently in a game with a truelevel 92 psyker who ran past a pinged medicae at 70% of his last wound. In auric.
>>553244059Maybe going for a penance? It's hard to believe you get to that level not knowing to clear wounds when you can
>>553244215>It's hard to believe you get to that level not knowing to clear wounds when you canlollmao even
>>553244372Anon, please, I picked that up before I even hit 30, there can't be people this dumb, there just can't!
>>553244465I am currently sitting in extraction and they've spent a minute farming kills before the elevator.Darktide has some deeply retarded individuals.
>>553243557>>553243705You can only expect your teammates to capitalise on your chorus uses in havoc (and even then you'll get dummies at times)
>>553244552I always just assumed that was for working towards poxbreaker, that has to be what it is right? Right?>>553244726By the way, do you take damage resist or damage bonus on that?
>>553244970>right? Right?He was having "fun" :^) This was in response to me pinging the elevator after I posted >>553244552Smigger btw, just standing there holding the smite button. Truly epic and riveting gameplay.Also had 5 downs. Fed the fucker 3 green stimms. Would've died at least twice if not for that.
>>553244970Usually damage. Sometimes you can also make the case for putting the point somewhere else entirely, because what often happens is that most things are dead by the time the last pulse hits.
>>553239918>>553240064For some reason the game seems especially buggy and unplayable on Xbox despite the deal they cut with Fatshark. Kinda surprised people even still bother on there.
i REALLY love the dog, are the nodes that make him apply bleed/brittleness/electrocute any good? especially against bosses
>>553247897electrocute yes bleed no
>>553247897electrocute is nice since it has a self-regen and it staggers everything including bosses, bleed was good while it was "bugged" and now it's kinda bad
>>553247897Bleed is good, anyone saying otherwise is a contrarian retard. It's a long running meme now to call dog bleed bad, perpetuated either by baiting retards, or unironic schizos that will screech at you even when provided with proof. Install Power DI and track whether you consider the damage it deals to be worth it. The only issue with it is pathing, because you want Hammer of Judgment, and won't be able to get to RJA without pathing through Target Neutralised (which is a good skill btw)Voltaic Mandibles is strictly mandatory, not only because it's good, but because you must take it to path to Canine Morale, which if you don't, your build is bricked.All other dog specific nodes aren't really worth it, and that includes both keystones, and all damage nodes except Execution Order. The brittleness is okay, usable, but often not worth the point cost.Watch the contrarian retards roll in with the (You)s and/or non-reply reply posts btw, they always get really assmad when you provide proof.
>>553237060>>has a bunch of damage nodes and some attack speed>benefits from its own damage ampBoth of which merely put it on the level of every other classes damage before the damage amp You're doing all that so you can be 90-100% and everyone else can be 180%. It doesn't feel good, even if it's statistically good as fuck
>>553247897bleed bad, don't listen to the resident pajeet here >>553249087
>>553249275Provide proof
Anyway, the resident pajeet is back, thread's closed.
I accept your concession.
>try out the heaviest mark of the helbore in havoc on my normal recon lasgun build with focus fire >Actually pretty good, just annoying that it doesnt 1shot most things, and annoyingly leaves them at just 5% hp or lower>decide to say fuck it, go exec stance and marksman focus keystoneI don't care if it's selfish, giving up gold toughness for everyone else.I don't care if it's not optimal for the team, giving up teamwide damage amp on bosses.After two shotting crushers at ranged with infinite ammo, I don't think I can never go back.
>>553247897just take the electrocute node, bleed/britleness do too little to justify the cost.
>>553247897Bleed and electrocute are very good. Brittleness not so much.
>>553249841>deleting threats over prolonging engagementsI agree that you've made the correct choice. Who needs gold toughness to fight crushers when the crushers are fucking dead?
>>553247897dog's bleed is a meme don't take it
>try h40 again>meme builds>teammates unable/refuse to stick togetheryikes. Gonna be a long weekend.
>>553247897+1 for dog bleed good.
>>553247897get the electrocute dog nodes and put electrocution/stagger damage bonus on your weapons and you will chunk everything
>>553250636>playing havoc on weekends/holidayslol
>playing havoklol
>>553251208havoque*
havoc? more like have a que of applications to reject lmaobtw you should reject half of all applicants anyway, don't want some unlucky mother fucker in your party.
>>553251470pédé
>>553247946>>553248996>>553249087>>553249275>>553249935>>553250145>>553250526>>553251003>>553251013thanks for the replies everyone, i did a bit of testing and was surprised to see the electrocute damage, and sorely disappointed at the bleed, i assume the bleed is there so you can stack it with other stacks of bleed? idk but its really sad
Dog bleed just did more damage than some scum's rocket launcher btw
>>553251606sometime I create a group for h40 and I reject every candidates while I watch a movie on the side lol
>>553251886Devilish
>>553251843Bleed doesn't do a lot of damage if you look at it straight through scoreboard stats, what it does is greatly reduce TTK when the dog is pouncing enemies, which reduces the downtime to it pouncing a new target. Dog bleed is absolutely worth taking.
>>553251843The quirk about all DoTs, including bleed, is that they become exponentially more powerful, the more of it you stack. Under most circumstances, just putting 6 stacks on a target (that then quickly decay) isn't going to do much. It's when the dog pounces between targets, that the DoT really stacks up, and/or when enemy density is so high, that even a small-ish amount of stacks actually racks up significant amounts of chip.You may argue that chip damage has little value, and I would agree with you, but for YEARS fags would obsess over muh breakpoints, and you can think of dog bleed as costing you 1 less hit to kill most things it applies to.The main thing to consider about taking or leaving it, is the opportunity cost of 2 pathing points, or whether you want to path through No Escape (which isn't amazing) to save one point. Arbitrator can be tight on points, so if you intend to take BTL's support nodes for example, dog bleed would indeed be the first to go. I consider it to be stronger than BTL's cooldown reduction however, but that will depend on your choice of weapon. With the shield flashbang, BTL becomes much less necessary since you have another stun in your pocket. If you don't use the shield, BTL upgrades are indeed quite powerful.
>>553251875
>>553252191People have told me to stop killing what the dog pounces. There are people who unironically see that we have been gifted a disabler who doesn't get knocked off with friendly attacks and they think it's pertinent to let the dog finish the job. These are Shoe Size IQ players and you should berate them.
>>553252205>With the shield flashbang, BTL becomes much less necessary since you have another stun in your pocket.I have BTL, shield flash and dog bomb, firing them off one after another can absolutely break a horde's momentum. It has tactical applications at the cost of DPS, but I've always preferred more options than straight damage when it comes to these things.
>>553252359Don't kill a target that has a dog mark on it, the arbitrator might need it for remote det, but a currently pounced target is fair game. The only hangup is that you shouldn't waste ammo on them, because they're practically dead anyway.As the arbitrator myself, I tend to ignore pounced targets, but I also know roughly how long the dog will take to finish each one off. Singular straggler mauler just gets tagged and run past.>>553252438Aye, but you don't need the cooldown reduction to make BTL good. It's already amazing without it, and it's rare that a horde survives long enough that you need multiple, AND that the next armored horde comes before your cooldown is back up.Even then, I mostly save BTL to interrupt overheads that would mulch my retards. I use it the most to interrupt charging mutants. The shield bash has a shockwave in front of it, so you can get charging mutants at virtually every angle.
>>553252359>People have told me to stop killing what the dog pounces.No, you should kill whatever the dog pounces because that frees it up to go pounce something else, just don't prioritise it if there's other shit in reach.
>>553252359As an Arby player I dont care if you kill a pounced target. But stop immediately shooting things I ping to send my dog on. I do it so I can remote detonate in a pack
>>553252438>>553252635I should add that the obvious caveat is if you're using Arbites Vigilant with BTL, and are going for a max big dick DPS build. But such a build is costly, and you're likely better off with Lone Wolf rather than the dog, which takes more investment than you can afford to do both.
>>553252635>>553252661>>553252770I don't waste ammo on marked dog targets or on pounced enemies, but I will kill an enemy that is pounced if they are nearby or isolated. That dog needs to disable something else and not linger.
>>553249841Where did you find this image of me
>>553252962>ammoOh I meant hitting it, not shooting it.
>>553252962Yeah, correct assessment.
dog on dog action
speaking of dog do you still make them attack ranged? it was way better than the elite one when it came out I think
>>553254186The ranged purple node also increases leash distance. This is a double edged sword, because you sometimes want it to stick close. It technically does more, but the thing it does is less good.Targeting elites is obviously good, but not worth the point, you should be more diligent about manually tagging. If you absolutely must NOT tag, it is the pick.
>>553254186i don't take any of those nodes. Not worth the investment.
>>553247897yjk
I like the relic blade, but I really prefer the evis special for deleting big threats.
>>553243557I started playing this game recently so I have not done havoc yet but I have noticed while leveling the classes on Heresy that it is nearly impossible to get most players to stop left-clicking hordes.
>>553255812Gotta get that Poxbreaker title, mah boy.
>flamer survives more than 0.5 seconds
>>553255975Nemesis system in Darktide when?
>>553256121Never since the mechanic was patented by the Warner Bros and nobody else can use it without risk of lawsuit.
>>553256121Never, it's patented now and if you implement it anywhere you'll get sued.
I hate the american patent system so much
Does anyone have one of the older Steam backgrounds for Darktide? I want to replay the ugly ass HIV CUM character they put in the current banner.
>>553256839Here, use this
>>553257084
>>553257314I'm not using that for the simple reason you covered up father anderson and screwed up the composition balance.
>>553257485fair enough
>Playing Wholesome Chungus Fat Man Zealot build>Keep smacking Poxbursters to assert dominance>See one waddling around through a doorway, sprint at it and pop it with my Relic Blade>Hear the "teammate killed" sound>There was a Veteran crouched behind the corner shooting that I didn't noticeMy bad chief.
Quick question, "toughness damage resistance" only applies to your toughness, does "damage resistance" apply to both toughness and health or just health?
>>553257084I went with yours since it has less black people in it.
>>553255975>team has no concept of target priority
>>553257557TDR is toughness only.DR is global, it applies to both.
>join lobby>ogryn named Biggest-chungas
>>553257641Groovy, hugs and kisses bebbeh.
>>553257571Good choice>>553256268>>553256254Kinda crazy how they struck gold like that and then just on it to do nothing
>Rolling Steel>have to solo all objectives because people won't stop left-clicking hordes forever>get to the part where I have to carry powercells>mission grinds to a halt because I am fighting off every special and enemy while small amounts of chaff are being leftclicked by all three of my teammates somewhere else This should be bannable and, more importantly, grounds for irl execution.
>>553259154It's always the battery objective isn't it
>>553259154haha wow that cat got some moves! can I save that picture I want to show it to my son on the Facebook
>>553259154Let me guess: They were fighting at the very end, with the spinny green tubes, next to the lever that summons the capsules?
I must be retarded, because I don't understand how to clear hordes without taking damage. I've tried to spam lights, spam heavies, switch between the two, try to do combos, dodge, all that shit and it's still rare that I don't come out of a big horde without at least a little health damage. Am I just a lost cause?
>hive scum>uses the infinite ammo talent>still picks up all the ammoThis game really needs a blacklist feature
>>553259527And got boxed in by a bomber, flamer, or bulwarks and all died because they couldn't dodge? Deja vu, I've been in the place before.
>>553260220You can block people from the esc menu.
>>553259527Got it in one try.
>>553260215Oh and I block too of course.
what's the darktide music that goes boooom shika shika boooom peeeew peeew?
>>553260215best general advice I can give is to dodge only when you see something is about to hit you, and to utilize pushes and push attacks too
>>553260340Doesnt stop them from ending up in my games
Just lost a game because my team does not respect gunners in open areas.
>>553261021High havoc, right?
>>553259420I would prefer if you didn't--while it is a funny stunt by the cat, understand that its Indonesian owner abused it to get it to do that on command for the camera, it's a big fad in east Asia.
>>553261175oh dang it MacArthur should have finished the job and nuke them all!
>>553260215You can take a single hit from weak horde enemies and not lose any health provided you are at 100% toughness. If you have decent melee toughness regen of some kind then you can use that to your advantage. It's just a combination of using your horde clear melee combo, dodging, and pushing to manage a fight. If you haven't learned the sound cue for when an enemy is about to melee you then do that first.
>>553261139Heresy. Arbites ate probably like eleven different obviously telegraphed poxbursters in the course of the mission.HIV CUM was constantly dead from disrespecting gunners or crushers, I rescued her probably three times.The fact that gunners were such a problem says all you need to know about the third guy, who was a Veteran.It was the mission where Hadron has you going to disable anti-air at a train station, we died because they jumped down into a pack of like 50 gunners at the ledge into that final area and got mowed down immediately. During the part where you have to babysit a bunch of different data interrogators, I was up in the upstairs area and every single time the interrogator stopped working it was up near me, and when that happens hordes constantly spawn like 10 feet away from that interrogator so I could not do the minigame without being attacked, I had to literally ping them to come here and help and each time it took them like 2-3 minutes to realize what was going on and come help.
>>553260215Push sometimes. It's an omnidirectional stagger.
>>553261631Damn, I knew blocking is omnidirectional but had no idea pushing is.
>>553261797>>553261797>>553261797>>553261797>>553261797New Thread (I made a quick OC)
>>553261602explains it, I haven't seen someone die to gunners on auric in a while now so I was curious
>>553261175That’s south east Asia Jim you silly goober!
>>553262516Whatever dude it's all slant eyed to me.
>>553260215mix in push attacks. For example heavy attack -> light -> light -> push attack -> repeat. Make sure you circle the outside of the horde. Avoid getting surrounded. Try to stay close to teammates.
>>553260654>>553261492>>553261631Thanks.>>553264349>Make sure you circle the outside of the horde. Avoid getting surrounded.I do suspect this is my biggest problem: poor positioning.
>>553251875>>553249087Are you 100% certain that the damage from voltaic mandibles is not counted in the same condition damage category?
>>553256254>>553256268xcom implemented something not at all dissimilar in a DLC shortly aftercopyright is not all powerful, look at fucking Palworld
>>553271995It's not a copyright, it's a patent. XCOM 2 devs complained about having to work around the patent and remove/retool some features at the time.
THINK ABOUT ITthe most common complaint about ogryn teammates is them getting in the way of your shotsthat's been the case since launchso if your ogryn teammate moves less, then this is less of a problembut the ogryn still needs to be on the frontlinethats where he belongsSO WHAT IS THE SOLUTIONblocking instead of dodging most attacksthats the solutiondo NOT hate on your ogryn for blocking
>>553263894>>553262516lol>>553279274Shame
