Previous: >>553025438>Falcom Gameshttps://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk>Pastebin (aka music)https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translationshttps://nyaa.si/user/Ganbahttps://nyaa.si/view/1749605https://nyaa.si/view/1749617>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL>Kai MTL patchhttps://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7zUPDATED: 12/20>Trails Beyond The Horizon Demo is out:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3316940/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_beyond_the_Horizon/>Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter is confirmed 2026.https://store.steampowered.com/app/4225980/Trails_in_the_Sky_2nd_Chapter/>Falcom's Shareholders Meetings 2025 Q&A threadhttps://x.com/michsuzu/status/2001538421702168955#m>Ys X Proud releasing on February 20th for Switch 2, PC, and also PS5https://noisypixel.net/ys-x-proud-nordics-western-release-date/>Trailer Ys X Proudhttps://youtu.be/tB9S4XAj8pM?si=s5l3guOaM1WWkFEK>Edia to port PC-Engine Ys, Dragon Slayer and The Legend of Xanadu games to modern platformshttps://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/edia-to-port-pc-engine-ys-dragon-slayer-the-legend-of-heroes-and-the-legend-of-xanadu-games-to-modern-platforms
Curious why NISA made remnants translation into vestiges. Even the jp characters sound out the word “remnant”. Is vestige and remnant the same meaning?
So, how many of you are planning on playing Horizon?
>>553168543I haven't played the others so I can't.
>>553168707Do you plan to play the others?>>553167487Well maybe you should.>>553168560Consider: so does Celine.
haha...when does CS3 get good
NISA SOLD ALL THEIR SWITCH 2 LES
>>553168896Celine is different, shut up
>>553169068lol nah.
>>553168481Same reason why they handle a lot of the names and titles. They always have to go for synonyms like Sanguine, and Ebon to be pretentious.
Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towacutest!:1. She is canonically atowable!2. She is mai Kiseki-fu!!3. I love her!!!4. Towacutest!!!!
>>5531692275. To-wifey!!!!!
For me, it's Towifey.
>>553168896No really no
>>553166953That's good sis, I hope you can keep that disposition, even if you ever have students that try your patience more. Also good to hear paperwork is light rn. As I said, I know some teachers that do nothing but complain about kids and how much paperwork they gotta do. Especially in public schools, where many are worried about their class doing good in state tests and stuff
Toe Wifey
>>553169205I disagree with NISA calling Nina eschaton. Her name being literal in Japanese works because of foreshadowing that the end will come. Most players won’t know what eschaton means so that first impression is lost on people who didn’t play the fan patch
Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>553169227>>553169475>>553169601>>553169834
>>553168481They did the same shit for Sword Maiden, they actually speak it but they trannylated it into something else. It's just trannylator cope.
>>553169621Are there any Falcom games you plan to play in general? Trails, Ys, TX?>>553169681Thanks. Like I can get why some are worried about the kids that were raised by an iPad and try to ease them away from that behavior, but you have to really engage with the kids to get them to listen and not just sit there and count down the hours until they can get back to their tablets or play on their chromebooks.
Nisa won
>>553170204I mean honestly vestige from remnant is way better than beauty’s blade from sword maiden. At least the vestige thing is a synonym beauty’s blade and S and lp are worse. Horizons localization sucks but it’s still better than reveries and daybreak 1’s. Daybreak 2 was still awful though
nobody would actually unironically say "vestige" in normal speaking unless it was referring to things in academia.
>>553170571sounds like you're just uneducated
looks like you are projecting
>>553169834Yes.
>>553170820I wanna FUCK TOWAS LITTLE ASS!!!
its big, thoever
>more illiterates getting filtered by NISA söyfics againAY AY AY
>>553171027good less people need to play the garbage calvard series.
>he knows how to evade filtersshitposter confirmed, I accept your concession.
BEAR the NIGHTMARESHART SMELLS
>>553170364Im gonna play Ys 9 since I played 10 as well as Tokyo Xanadu.
>>553171367Hope you have fun with them then
nadia rizz
Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
So both novartis and risette are beings that are from different cycles(loops)? Norvartis wanted to interfere in gramhearts plan because he wants the eternal recurrence plan to commence?
>>553171672zamn
>>553171224>not quoting anyone so I have no idea if he means me or someone elsethe peak of /fg/. much engagement.
Hilarious that no one helped Gramheart. And the one guy who wanted to was stopped by the big bad of the series. Destined to lose.
Does Kai have any carryover save stuff from kuro 2?
>he fell for the baitkuku...
>>553171672Id like to feel that butt.
>>553172013The usual item bonuses. I think this one has like the craft shards.
>>553168989I just remembered that I never ordered the PS5 one and thought I could just go get it today but it's all sold outsometimes I forget /fg/ doesn't live in reality
>>553171993Novartis said interfere in nisa version but I guess grandmaster said that even if norvartis wanted to assist then she wouldn’t let him
>>553172276Kek. Was his plan that bad or something
Foreskinless posters.
>>553172343No, It's just you can't go against the grandmaster as an anguis no matter what.
Oh nohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chZRC8eyBQg
>>553172772>another nonwhiteFails moment.
>>553168989>>553172271Is this considered unusual? How did other Trails LE sell?
>>553173010It took aeons for the switch 2 key card version to drop from 100%. Every other version sold out in weeks (PS4/PS5) or took a while to depleteSwitch 2 keycard version was months and months later.
>>553173010I think people just expected the switch 2 stock to fester because game key card autism would prevail
Calvard? More like Failvard!
>>553173148>>553173234Oh ok. So it's normal for LE to sell out, It's just the keycard thing that not normal.
>>553170364as a high school teacher, i agree with you there, although my government has been trying hard to turn education into some "education HAS to be fun" kinda bullshit, which i dont believe is how you make things engaging for brats
>>553173152the calvard cast is the sexiest
I just finished CS3. Is Millium like dead-dead or just Crow-dead? I'm pretty sure Torval, Olivier, and whats-his-face aren't really dead.
>>553174487>he thinks characters die in kiseki
>>553174487No one's ever really gone
>>553174487millium is seen on the boxart for CS4 so I'll just leave it at that
>>553174487I don't understand why people ask for spoilers but:None of the characters you mentioned dies.
>>553174487Septerrrions are used to revive millium and crow. George never meant to kill victor, olivert, and toval he just wanted to deceive Alberich because of his conflicting selves due to Alberich memory wipe(similar to Joshua). Blueblanc even helps save them too.
>blow up an entire fortress>fortunately NOT A SINGLE PERSON WAS INSIDE>not one casualty kek holy shit
>>553175723It's ok bro they were on a training exercise and just left everything empty. No one would ever steal or pillage in Erebonia.
Don't worry, the dinosaurs didn't go extinct.
>>553175723>>553175795>Didn’t see the ballad daydream in reverie plus doesn’t understand ishmelga Rean shot the naval fortress to scare zemuria into surrendering by presenting proof that his ultimatum had validity
>>553175934That's why Ragnard is still alive
>>553174837>>553174865>>553174884>>553175013>>553175397I had a hunch.Also I know CS4 is supposed to be the big crossover game where a bunch of old characters come back playable again. I won't ask for spoilers; I'll just list the top 5 character I'd be most excited to play as again, and you can tell how disappointed I'll be:1. Josette2. Kloe3. Anelace4. Scherazard5/ Wazy
Baby ragnard return when?
>>553176468not a single character you mentioned is playable lol
>>553176468I think by some technicality or another you'll see all those characters, but none are playable
>>553175956>"Oh so that how Jingo got the ship">"Oh so that why the fortress is empty">"Oh so that's why the ship crashed"...who cares. You could have told me those things happened randomly and I wouldn't give a fuck.
>>553176468>1. Josette>2. Kloe>3. Anelace>4. Scherazard>5/ WazyAnon...
>>553176468>I'll just list the top 5 character I'd be most excited to play as againmost returning characters have their s-crafts and craft lists cut down significantly
>>553176630>>553176748Fuck. Not even Schera?? She's IN Erebonia! Right now!
>>553177161Yeah but something is in her right now lmao.
https://x.com/CGInfernoBlast/status/2009396108540399865I'm beginning to miss XSNEED's fanfic over what the fuck this shit is
>>553178927"hostile spirit"how unimaginative
Fie...
Is it true that Kai was so unpopular in the Japanese fanbase that Kondom had to apologize to investors?
yfw she wins the Reanb Owl in Kai 2
I like Towacutest more than To-wifey. I'm sorry...
>>553180351I think we can all agree that both are better than Randy's "Towee". WTF was NISA thinking with that one?
>>553180673Ranks low, but it isn't abysmal.
>>553178927They saw the people who whined about the Nadia rizz line and decided to cram as much zoomer hoodweeb slang as they could into Ulrica
>>553184194Stop letting mutts localize game. Problem solved.
Templatebros...
>>553184370Does this mean OnlyFans canonically exists in the Trails universe now?
>>553184429lol
>>553179934Yes. Kai failed bigly and Kondom had to wrap himself around some dongs.
Did they ever fix the hilariously low quality shadows?
>>553184430>>553184370>>553184194>>553178927>Look at all the tweets praising Ulrica's shit Gen Z slang especially le ebin OnlyVans lineThere's no saving this fanbase
>Who Would Win?God Generals or Ten Wise Men or Ouroboros or Longinus Dreizehn Orden
>>553184842>mom says it's my turn on the xbox
>>553184430Yes. Aside from Renne obviously, which Trails girls have an account?
This plot point needs to be addressed again
>>553185180Nice!!
>>553185180renne rapes anies on the regular
>>553185180Despite her facade of purity, Renne could sense the horniness inside Agnes and she feeds via spanking her. Or by licking her feet and talking to her about how she wants Ban-san to do said things to her.Ever since she started working at Arkride Solutions she is repeatedly late...even on her days off, haha...
>>553185180Agnes and Renne is a good ship
Loewe...
>>553186156Tier...
>>553185613It's not rape if she's asking to be punished for her dirty, dirty thoughts
>>553186075Agnes is a brat who constantly breaks the rules if you really examine her actions
And that's the story of how Anies became a bislut and liked girls better than boysShe is so lucky...
>>553186240she's just a sheltered girl in love with a badboy with a heart of gold, anon
>>553186338towa sexlapis sexnasexrenne sexkill anus
>>553186393Van literally doesn't count as a "bad" boy by any metric dude
>>553186306Like Reanasis...?
possibly the worst hour of /fg/, consistently for years now
>>553186634Every hour is schizo hour. Look at him go. >>553186486
>>553186481He presents himself as one and tries to be one really bad tho
>>553186414*kills you before you kill agnes or have sex with anyone and then has sex with all of them*fufufu..you were simply too slow, anon-kun
>>553187053that was my shadow clone*teleports behind u*nothing personell kid
>>553186841He fails miserably the instant sugar is around, it's dumb as hell
>>553187197haha...guess i need to stop holding back and use THAT
>>553187431AIEEEEEEEEEEEEeee!!!!!!!!!!! ROIDO-SAMA I KNEEL!!!
>>553187182those cheeks will be red soon
Jesus Christ.
>>553187431
>>553187431Powering up now are you Lloyd-kun? Fufu...how cute.
>nigger
>>553188291I really don't like the cartoony look of the remake at all
>>553188291I really like the cartoony remake of the cartoony games they were based off of
>>553188359>japanese cartoon game looks japanesely cartoonyReeeeeeee.
>hottest kiseki in your pathRichard gets to fuck THIS?
>>553188587Haha...
>>553188587>hottest kiseki She's not even the hottest bitch in Sky. Schera and Luciola mogs
Did the FC remake finally fixed the writing? I really disliked how poorly developed and forced the romance was between Estelle & Joshua, as it was a bunch of characters gaslighting Estelle to fall in love with Joshua.
Good night /fg/
>>553189436No, and sadly, there is no cure for shit taste, anon.
>>553189376
>>553189725It's not shit taste for expecting a romance story to actually have good romance and making it feel earned.
>>553190334Did your mom earn your dad's cock? Did your uncle? Your sister?
Humiliating.
>>553190334Are you autistic or do you really believe that bullshit you wrote about Estelle falling in love with Joshua cuz she was "gaslit"?
>>553188048she deserves her own game on her design alone.
>>553190442My dad had to earn my mother's love and it took them some time to actually get together and get married.>>553190734Estelle wasn't romantically interested into Joshua until other characters intentionally planted the concept into her head because they couldn't comprehend the idea of two people of the opposite sex not fucking or dating each other.
>>553191615Sounds like your mom was groomed at the age of 12 by the resident catholic.
Embarrassing
>>553193205This game was so shit lmao
Gaybreak 1 and 2's soundtracks are so bland they sound AI generated.
Wrong
Right
why does the renne plushie have an ass
>>553191615Hey just want to let you know you are 100% correct, but there's a regular here that's mentally ill and will have these outbursts attacking you personally for daring to criticize SkyThe silent majority agrees with you and hates the schizo, so don't be disheartened by his incessant posting
>>553194946This, but the resident psychopath has a melty when someone dares to criticize Gaybreak.
>>553195194This but the resident spic psychopath has a melty when someone dares to criticize Cold Shit
Notice how I, a well-adjusted adult male, called it SkyWhile he, a broken mockery of a manchild, can't help but "NISA" it up by giving the games his own embarrassing made-up titlesThere's levels to this
>>553195628Reddit spacing.
>>553191615>estelle falls in love with Joshua because...other people tell her to!How idiotic. And utterly autistic.
>>553195487>Cold ShitYou mean Corked Shart, aka ED8?
See? His only recourse is trying to personally attack you over video game opinionsReally sad honestly
I kirkenuinely love Ulrika
>noooo you have to respect stupid opinionsNo, I don't. Also you have a boogeyman whose character you attacked. Only nutcases have boogeymen on the internet. Funny you are a hypocrite on top of already being mentally ill.
Feeling so threatened by opinions that you have to become hyper aggressive and disrespectful over them says a lot about you lol
See how you have to grasp at assumptions to again and try and attack someone character's? Over an opinion? Mentally ill hypocrite.I don't. Everything I have accused you of is factual.
I'm none of these posters, by the way. You're talking to yourself. Again. Soon you'll switch to the R*ansis persona and fake engagement while stroking your little pecker.
I'm sure this weird meltdown of yours entirely focused on personally insulting strangers on the Internet will somehow prove Sky's romance isn't badly writtenBTW even Kondo is embarrassed by it and has said as much over the years haha
>>553166953He seems a little on the beef cake side which I don't think has zero fans but definitely screams as niche as shota to me.
>>553194906thicc
Why don't Enforcers get replaced when they quit?
>>553174884>>553174487>>553175397Given every septerian is used unknowingly by the characters before they "give up the power" metaphorically what exactly are the implications of everyone deliberately using the septerrians to revive specific characters?
>>553191615You're half right, but what really clinched it was Estelle's cuck fantasies about Kloe kissing Joshua in the play. As soon as Estelle saw that her character changed entirely to start blushing and lusting over Joshua.
If you couldn't tell Estelle had a crush on Joshua by the end of the prologue you might be autistic.
>>553196738It's hard finding someone who fits the exact tarot archetype. The Grandmaster can't exactly put up a job listing on the orbal net.
>>553184516Haha I realize I did this for snekstelle but it was completely unintentional. Her movements use spirals because she's fucking weak and needs to cheese with momentum.
>>553196738Am I misremembering, or in Kai do they mention an Enforcer No. II? Did I misread the Roman numerals?
You're the one with the meltdown and the onus is not on me to prove anything. And unless you are samefagging it is also not on you. It is the person with a half-baked and tenuous conclusion on something he is clearly too autistic or unloved to understand. But alas, a mentally ill hypocrite like you with a boogeyman just wants an vacuous internet fight to feel something, I guess. What a sad life you lead.
>>553196891You didn't do shit, you never wrote down any of it much less published itFor all we know you are a fraud constantly stealing ideas and pretending you did them beforeAbsolute worthless hack
>>553188587Her outfit is good but her voice? It's a miss.
>>553196972Stop talking to yourself, schizo retard.
>>553196834Estelle only showed real interest in Joshua once she thought Kloe was going to sink her claws into him. I miss pre-play Estelle in Sky, before her entire character became about lusting for Joshua. Luckily they fixed her characterisation in Crossbell and Cold Steel.
>>553196970II was Loewe
>>553196991Uh oh, you're going to make him spam the thread again.
>>553197184he inquires about male anuses completely unprompted anywaywhat a sad stale schizo
>>553197115Are you sure? In Longlai they something about a martial arts Enforcer.
>>553197115Enforcer XII is an unknown woman who specializes in martial arts
>>553190334Estelle has every reason to like Joshua because he's a girls wet dream. Snekstelle was immediately aware of this and filled with shame. He fits all of the shoujo dream boat tropes. He's super loyal to Estelle but everyone wants to fuck him. She offers him up but he doesn't take. He's dangerous as sin and has a dark blood shedded past. Dark and broody but boyband tier sexy. Straddles the line between strong and svelt. He's smart and still appreciates estelle for her emotional sincerity ( normally a cope for girls irl since they're really two faced but it's classic for heroines in shoujo to not be). And Estelle is lastly able to pin down all of his motivations and feelings like a Lazer despite women being really bad at that. He's basically child soldier Tarzan. Where the story fails is justifying Joshua's end of the deal. He loves estelle and comes back to her but never really actually trusts and puts his faith in her a single time in the entire course of the game. It really undermined my belief in the character of their relationship so the experiment with snekstelle was handing Joshua off to klose for real to give estelle a position as an antagonist. Picture mildly related. The beta version of the characters
>>553196746Estelle is canonically a huge cuck because girls like confirmation bias targets for romance options hence wedding ring sex.
I think we're stretching the definition of cuckoldry a bit.
>>553197412meant for >>553197264
>>553197412Oh so I misread the numerals, gotcha.
>>553196843Do people really fit their tarot archetype? snekstelle is 21 and I'm just now noticing she's supposed to do all of the things in this arcana unironically... By
>>553196991Umm you may be unaware but I didn't invent kiseki at all so there's no need to pretend I came up with anything original other than personal shock.
Sharten Farten makes me want to ALT+F4.
>>553197974Hey that's the dude that raises his evasion. I hated that bitch.
>>553195881Skytroons really do be like this
>>553196517Wait you really are a girl, Snekstelle anon?
>>553198667yahari...
Can't believe Calvardanon auto-necked.
>>553197415>Where the story fails is justifying Joshua's end of the dealHe bluntly says it at the start of the game at Perzel farm. Joshua feels that he's broken as a person and only someone as optimistic and wholesome as Estelle can heal him. Joshua rejects Kloe because he doesn't want a female version of himself (someone smart yet aloof, brooding, etc), he wants the exact polar opposite of him and that's what Estelle is.
>>553194906For spanking
NISA doing a Disgaea musou soft confirms Horizon and Ys X are their last ventures with FalcomHonestly I respect them sabotaging the script with zoomer lingo on their way out
Fufu...Ban.Fufu...Roido Banningsu.
>>553200061>NISA localising a property their parent company owns means...>They've totally stopped doing Falcom games!Anon, with Gungho signed on for the Sky remakes there's nothing for them to do. It's not like there's anything left for them to localise until Falcom starts making new games again.
>>553200556NIS is revitalizing itself and NISA no longer needs to rely on the badly selling Calvard and Sky gamesI know it hurts you but NISA no longer wants Falcom
>>553200061aside from proud nordics falcom dont have anything else for nisa to release until next year at the minimum
Gaybreak 2 was so ass they decided to drop Falcom. Basado.
and this is the ultimate meta. the real finale to the Trails franchise. A real life Campanella, a clown, eternally coping to attempt to snuff out the joy of a continuous series and light his own flame of destruction. LET CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD! Its an obsession. Every day repeated and every counter argument ignored like an earth wall or grail sphere. this poster, or series of posters have inadvertently mastered Trails gameplay but not in the way they ached so badly for. they return to play here, no matter how many times they are defeated. they delay, dodge, and spam, slightly changing strategies from time to time but ultimately meeting the same end. but it doesn't matter. they get up and repeat it anyway. over and over again. They've found their own Ouroboros here, on 4chan, and literally become the very thing they wanted so badly. They are the Eternal Recurrence...
>>553200770>NIS is revitalizing itselfNIS is a flop company. I'm sure if NISA had the option they'd choose to become Falcom's western branch.
>>553184430I don't think so. She says え、 マ ? ヴァンたそなんでさー?
>>553201815>become falcom west>miss out on the only actually successful falcom games made this decadekek
That's all it takes.They will spend 16 hours a day shitting on Falcom and heralding its death. But throw in a mention of any other company and they will suddenly act like Falcom is good.
>>553202969I bet you're the guy also disputing Sky 1st's success and now you've flip-flopped because Calvard is in the crosshairs.
Sky's MTL was pretty bad and the port had a lot of issues. Future's looking grim if NISA's out. That means no Durante.
>>553203063I bet your life could improve with the right medication.
>>553203240That's what your father would tell you if you had a good relationship with him, which you don't.
>>553203137Nah, you don't get to act like that now. No refunds! You people spent a decade trying to besmirch NISA, moaning about absolutely everything, trying to sabotage every release, pig-headedly making and distributing your own MTL patches, pirating and seeding the game, and DEMANDING direct translations.Now you got it. Enjoy what you begged for so hard. No take-backsies!
>>553203309Next slide, projector!
>>553203456You sound brown, unshaven and balding. Know that I subvocalized your entire post in a heavy East Indian accent and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>553203592Am I meant to be impressed that you are so familiar with all of those things that you can't read a post on a screen without fantasizing about them?Weird post from you, as usual. The guy that was "leaving shortly", 12 hours ago.
>>553200061Releasing Kiseki games at the same time is actually risky for Falcom. Half the time knowing how bad things get makes it easier when we have to play ourselves.
>>553203920I just want Kai 2 anon...
>>553203920haha... can you imagine the shitstorm if kai had released worldwidehaving a year to completely kill everyones expectations is likely the reason the game is getting so much praise right now
>>553203853Saar, you're posting unintelligible gibberish. That's how you provide the mental image of a jeet with each and every post.
>>553204135You'll get it after Sky 3rd.>>553204438Falcom must choose.....one path....or another..
>>553204438>the game is getting so much praise right nowI do see some reviews talk about the bad pacing and probably way more people will complain when it's actually out.
>>553204438>praiseYou mean the 10/10 reviews from fanboys? Pic related is what the reception is like without those included.
>>553204583There's a certain pride in knowing I have disarmed you so effortlessly. You can't debate in good faith, you can't reinforce your stance with counterarguments, nor even provide solid pillars to build further arguments on. All you have is pitiable attempts at baseless defamation by lazy invented racism.
>>553204945>disarmed>debate>stance>counterargumentskek, are you having a psychotic episode? wat r u tlking bot son, u having delusions agen?
>>553204867It will get praised more once they see the HRT event. Or maybe they will get angry that he took the pills and didn't go full trans.
>>553178927>SpriggumIn Japanese, it plays on the word pudding, which makes more sense given Van's love of sweets, and they can't even get that right.And yes, Ulrika use a lot of slang but you can tell that NISA has doubled down on streamer lingo
Van's route killed the chances of Kai being peak. Pacing aside, the fact Van rejecting Agnes and her ending are the only noteworthy things people even talked about should tell you all about the ASO as a whole. Shizuna was also placed from Ikaruga to them and i don't remember if it was the nips or chinks but she also got shit on.
>>553205372retards are just mad shizuna went with van instead of being shipteased with rean
>>553205082Thanks for the list of words that intimidate you. But you're a bit too old for the childish typing, I feel like.
>>553205462Kinda funny how you have an ongoing conversation with random people and don't let them in on the context. Bizarre.
What is there to even look forward to in Kai 2? A rematch with Grendel Shaddai which had 0 fucking buildup anyway? Them FINALLY revealing literally anything about the plot after 3 games of stalling? The Remnants are such uninteresting characters and their whole motivation is just some gay "obeying our nature" bullshit so theres no real conflict to look forward to. Saving Agnes? Okay maybe but even that will only be a small part of the game and we don't even know what happens to her to even look forward to to begin with. Everything is just so fucking vague and uninteresting.
>>553205639Copy-paste round 4.
>make 3 setup games>none of the setup is even interesting
>>553205639>What is there to even look forward to in Kai 2?I just want to play every game in this series until the end of time. Remakes excluded.Why can't you sympathize with me anon?
>>553205639Saving or getting Agnes back will be act 1 like cold steel 4 getting Rean back, no way she will be gone for the entire game.
i hope the routes just all merge into one for kai 2
>>553205258Fucking LOVE being nonbinary and I fucking LOVE being incontinent.
>>553205372The le romance is talked about because they barely give anything on the other stuff. And when they do it doesnt involve Van.>>553205639>What is there to even look forward to in Kai 2?Rematches and saving Agnes. Thats pretty much it.
>>553205258I hope Quatre never shows up again after Calvard.
>NO NO IT'S NOT A TRANNY IT'S A "HERMA-PHRO-DITE"It's okay when Falcom does it. Except their games bomb financially when they do it.
9 days into the year and you've already lost control and are having 18h long daily meltdowns lmao
Estelle Bright, the strongest Kiseki protagonist.
>>553196738the enforcer system is a ritual and they've fulfilled their role
>>553205639If you hate these games why not fuck off and do/play something you enjoy?
>>553199345You entirely missed the point. Character wants are just that. Character wants. They don't justify the characters getting what they want unless it's isekai slop. For Joshua, to get estelle he should have to do something that shows his growth as a character, trusting estelle. But he never actually does this. He continues to tard wrangled her the whole way through, keep his fears a secret from her, as well as his plans to safe gaurd her. He doesn't come across as her lover but a parent. Their relationship in practice is more closed off than estelle and renne.Lastly estelle forma de bardock does a lot of things early on that prevents Joshua from falling in love with her. Mainly using her knowledge of her crush as a smoke screen for all of her suspicious behavior in a really annoying way, as well as defacing her books to intentionally obscure how knowledgeable she had become. this is actually also foreshadowing. They still have a sibling like relationship but Joshua in canon even remarks that estelle is so bright for him that it's painful. Estelle is still somewhat close to him and learns the harmonica because "obviously the protagonist of a jrpg would play an instrument" and feeling left out, at that point having no idea she's the mc. Joshua also doesn't take a shine to klose right away. After Ruan though I doubt estelle would ever be someone Joshua could romantically love considering how that ends. Whether klose and Joshua would work out is another can of worms. I believe it's possible but I also like klose and a lot of people just consider her a boring one note character
Quatre is a qt thobeit
>>5531692275. She's an immigration NGO girl!!!!!
>>553176756can someone tl;dr me the explanation why the fort was empty then?
Quatre has a cockQuatre has an assQuatre has a throat there are no problems
>>553189376>Schera and LuciolaNahMaybelle though
>>553208746Disagree. He trusts her by the end of FC, at least enough that he lets her hear his story for why he is the way he is and loves her so much he is willing to go on a suicidal mission to kill Ouroboros at the expense of his life to keep her safe. The fact that in SC she understands this, sees past this and can identify Joshua's main motivator for doing all this is fear and yet she can get him to trust her that his fears are unfounded and that they can overcome Weissmann together is a testament to how much she has grown as a person and how much Joshua had regressed
Holy cow!
>>553210218What the fuck is wrong with Quatre's face?
>>553210218Cuttlefishbros...
We can tell you're replying to yourself btw. It's very sad.
>>553210329What do you mean?
>>553210424I think it's because his hair is clipping through his face, but it still looks off.
>>553210661Probably just a bug. I pirated the game.
>>553210329its a retard who does edits and thinks hes being funny
>its a retard who does edits and thinks hes being funny
>>553211046Kssss... my knees....
>>553210971what lack of friendship does to a mf
>>553210971I really do wonder just how hollow and pathetic his life must be. He's even dual doomposting here and on /v/: >>553211046>>>/v/730414692What a sad creature.
Are you really getting upset by edits? kek, I remember you going off the hinges when I played Daybreak and posted shit like this years ago.
And yet, years later you're still the only one posting the edits. Says a lot about how no one likes them, huh?
>>553213040They seem to cause you anguish and you start malding immediately every time.
So in your head you've caused anguish on others and feel proud and happy about it? Bit sociopathic of you, don't you think?
>>553213524Says more about you than me. Look at your reaction to an innocuous image. Gonna mald some more?
Unfortunately for you, I know this is you >>553154249, and knowing you are addicted to this place and to being a doomer blunts the edge of your tough guy attitude.
>>553213854You're unstable. Gonna cry about these life-ruining edits? Will they haunt your dreams?
>>553208746>For Joshua, to get estelle he should have to do something1. he almost fucking murdered a mayor when he threatened her 2. he sussed Kevin immediately and was not comfortable with him around her3. he changed his last name to "Bright"4. he saved her from Ouroboros5. he went along with Estelles desire to adopt Renne>trusting estelleA man should be the doer in a relationship. Him putting Estelle in harms way because he "trusts her" would be a terrible move. Estelle is not the strongest fighter and that's okay, her strengths were always social. That's why he barely even talks past Sky. Estelle is a fast way ticket to befriending everyone.
yeah im going to stay with fan translations, or just use raw ai translated script i think that's much better
>>553214525Not the hecking uncaroonie!
>>553214525Why do you feel the need to constantly remind the world you don't like localisations? Are patchfags this needy??
>>553214525these quotes make me cackle like crazy
>>553214824>aieeeeeeeee don't post anything in this general without my permissionur ghey bro
>>553214932>aieeeeeeeeeeeee nooo I can't do anything without broadcasting it to the Internet people lmaoooo girlie behaviour
>>553214903https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYU8F66wI6Q
imagine
>>553215000Sexo
>>553215549Bro, this is the second reviewer that focuses on Ulrica. Is this the only part you can advertise to westoids these days?
>>553215779lmao classic nisa
>>553215340Rub those butts
>>553216059uncs about to get REAL pressed over ts lmao
>>553215779I'm glad Falcom took their shit together for once and made Van not accept Agnes' feelings. It doesn't matter that this "anti-fan service" would anger lolicon weebs and 40-year-old daddies with nagging wives of the same age. Once in a while you need to show the morally correct things through your games, which would apply to IRL. Thanks, Falcom! You still have writers who go outside and get in touch with reality and grass.
https://youtu.be/t2VJtFv0HZ4?t=9701
>>553215779i remember in the fan translation it was a bit more vague, like van didnt exactly say no to her but he was more like "i have too much shit to still deal with i cant think about being with anyone like that" but in the nisa version its a lot more of a definitive noso is this how falcom wrote it and the fan translation was just wrong or did nisa kneel to retards like this >>553216568
>>553209293YOU'RE an immigration NGO girl!!!!!
Gooning to Musse's buttcrack
So glad I stopped being underage 2 decades ago before the Internet allowed me to indulge these terrible impulsesI can instead laugh at all these overly performative manchildren ruining their brains over their japanese fetish
>>553217407Uoh
>>553216939Finally the ending song translated...It's sad
i hate falcom so much i should be hyped for kais english release but i never want to replay that game again i used to play with the spreadsheet/patch and then buy the english release but i didnt do that for either kuro 2 or kai because theyre just atrocious games not worth reexperiencing
>>553218087>>553218238i'm that necktie btw
I'm continuing my Daybreak 2 playthrough (dropped it in the middle of Act 3 months ago). Correct me if I'm wrong, there's no in-game reward for giving MVP's to anyone except in Marchten Garden, right?
I don't know
>>553218585Damn. That's really messed
>>553218585Based TacoGOD
>>553217641Sounds like you highkey belong on Reddit! We're just vibemaxxing that 4chan culture, no cap. Like, read the room, unc!
>>553218585why does this sound so clunky>>553218856
>>553217641>japanese fetishJapanese website THOUGH
>>553218905>>553219262Yeah I specifically mentioned the overly performative manchildren bit in my postYou don't have to reply to me exemplifying it
i would have been ok with kai being another setup game if kai 2 came out the following year and it definitively ended the arc but knowing that they probably arent even working on it right now just makes kai leave a bad taste in my.mouth
>>553219489sorry bud calvard's gonna be 5 games minimum
>>553219828Calvard arc was aborted though. It's time for the Iska Arc
>>553220226so were you but somehow you're still here
>Old main characters return>Barely any interaction between them ingame>Instead we are shown that they had interactions off screen in creditsWhy?
>>553220356falcom stopped caring
>>553219489I wouldn't be okay with that. No one wanted anything more than 3 games. Kondom not keeping his words and burning out the devs is entirely self inflicted. I dont care anymore and would prefer remaking all of Sky and getting to Zero before touching Kai 2.>>553220356They didn't wanna put in the effort after the last two didn't do well. Same reason why new batchs cities/areas is gone.
>>553220226You meant Free Cities/Northern arc.
>>553220356I really don't like how disconnected each of the routes feels from eachother. Falcom don't seem to understand that the reason people liked it in Hajimari is because all the routes were different sides of the same story and it all came together in the end. None of that applies to Kai.
>>553220834Oh and also because you got to different see character interactions that you didn't expect. In Kai all the interactions between the characters are just super basic shit like "haha lets do our best"
>>553209868Telling her that story was an excuse he made to get the opportunity to leave her behind because he feared her getting hurt by association to him. How can you be that illiterate?>He can get him to trust her that his fear is unfounded. He says but does not act that way at all. He continues to hold all his cards to his chest to the very end. >They can overcome wiessman together. Estelle wasn't involved in the plan to free Joshua even a little. >RegressedPretty sure this handing me the win was accidental>>553213985>Um like Joshua's super cool and strong though. I'm being hyperbolic but it's hard to take you seriously even a little when your 2nd point is completely undermined by the fact that a Kevin was able to get close because Joshua threw estelle away, and more importantly b, Kevin is the one who Joshua actually trusts with critical information. >Estelle's strength is social and that's okayThe information is specifically dealing with emotions and social. It's primarily about predicting someone's moves and motives. Joshua doesn't see estelle as party to any manner of confrontation he doesn't have complete control over social or violent. And that opinion is born of the fear he's still running from. It's a complete literary failure.
>>553218087>>553218238>>553218454Use the mtl patch
>>553220834They also dont understand why TRC worked. And now it's in every game so they expect you to grind like crazy every time instead of once in a while.
>>553220335kek holy shit
OnlyVans subscriber
>>553220356what if they fish together in the garden? haha, i'm a genius
i can't believe the good review scores horizon is getting! you guys were shitting on it after playing your pirated copies with mtl patch
CGInferno said running the game at 240fps messed up some cutscenes
>>553222715why would you run a game over 165 theres like barely an increase after that. Its like a softcap
>>553222524Total Karja Love
unc is the n word for millennials
remember when 45 was still considered "not old"?
Agnès will still touch herself to Van after he rejects her
>>553220356>>553220834Rean just feels weird as a character like they always have to write around him
Ragecuck asshole status?
>>553223576hes a character that belongs in his own series instead of an anthology
>>553220834i hate the routes because it robs the spriggans of being involved in their own storyall the hamilton, dingo, grimcat, revolutionary etc shit all happens off screen and has nothing to do with any of the main cast of the calvard arcjust blows my mind they wrote it this way
>>553224293not off screen i meant in the other two routes
It's funny how no one ever talks about the doors/episodes they added in Kai because they're all completely pointless, low effort and unmemorable.
>>553224558To me those are just another symptom of Falcom fundamentally not understanding why people like 3rd/Hajimari. Theres a time and a place for those kinds of things and Kai was not it.
>>553223787>saved by Cassius versus trash mobs>tries to save Joshua, gets captured>has to get saved by JoshuaReminder that Estelle is USELESS and can't save anyone, not even herself and her loved ones
>>553223576Hes too important haha....GM-chans plan is working
>>553224293maybe they wanted those things to happen with the new guest characters not invested in those stories because it'd be easier to approach for a lunatic who is starting the series with kai
>>553224558some doors in 3rd took over an hour. some memories in reverie took a decent amount of time too. i heard the kai ones are only really brief
>>553223576Kondo himself admitted that they always write Rean to hog the spotlight any time he appears in a scene.
>>553218585Which one did it better?
>>553225896The MTL version since he's basically calling her a washed out whore.
>>553225896I give this one to the fan translation.Nobody says 'little spawn', this is a case where localization-kun had to justify his existence and opened a thesaurus for a different word
>>553225896this one reads far better
To-wifey!
>>553221512Why would Joshua need to tell her about his past to fuck off? And wrong, after they reunite he is an open book.
>>553216568faggot
>>553168543already played Kai, so i'm on copium
>>553228679
>>553231149Fuck you.Dont talk shit about texas
>>553231296Yeehaw
Rosalie in nisa version doesn’t say she wants to strip Rufus naked but Rufus’ response line is still the same
>>553220834>people liked Hajimarilol
>>553232523rape rosalie
>>553218087>>553218238>>553218454is there a way to mod this character out of the game? can someone do that? whenever she shows up in a cutscene the game automatically skips it, something like that
>>553232831You just stop playing the series because it's ruined
>noisypixel already has a full 100% guide for Horizon>6 days before releasehttps://noisypixel.net/trails-beyond-the-horizon-100-percent-guide/
Rean no Kiseki...
>>553233038they sure are milking their early review copy for all that it worth
>>553215779agnes...
>>553233038I'm sticking with neoseeker.
>>553217007No even in fan translation he said he doesn’t see her romantically.
>>553233038Neoseeker Trails guides > everything else
Overall besides ulrica saying more slang than she did in jp version, horizon localization isn’t the worst thing. It’s better than daybreak 2 at least for localization. But ideally fan translation is still ideal if you like playing with jp voice
>>553223576DBZ power levels bullshit, Rean not one shotting everything feels gay.
Kasim > Rean
The head editor for horizon isn’t the same guy who did daybreak 2 but that daybreak 2 editor mentioned is still part of the team. There was a wrong fanfic subtitle during van and Kincaid space fight but Van English dub said something else less fanfic so that suggests editing passes are getting better to get rid of some fanfiction. Not having the daybreak 2 editor as head might have been good
>>553233465divine blades are jobbers, embrace giant railguns
>>553233521chat, is this true?
>>553233416I'd love to play with JP voices but lots of stuff is unsubbed. In Sky 1st: S-crafts, victory quotes, random NPC dialogue when you pass by them and Estelle sometimes commenting on something.
>>553233521>t. Mirabel
bratty doll...
>>553225767Haha. Thats my prodigal son.
>>553233969why is she blushing...
>>553234137drunk with caffeine.
>>553220356They were scared of Rean overshadowing Van. Rean always gives of stronger MC vibes compared to the others.
>>553234398Why are Reanspics so fucking gay? Like what straight man says this shit lol?
>>553234398They let Swin and Nadia do that in previous game tho. And it didn't even work for Kai anyway.
>>553234398I mean Rean isn’t really an overpowered character in general he does job. Like in every cs ending besides 4 and reverie he gets dicked. Even in Kai he can’t beat Shizuna or ka fai and that was his strongest self. Rean isn’t really an overpowered dude like people think he is. Even in cs4 he goes ape shit and needs his teammates to use Curia to heal him from berserk state.
I only play Ys games
>>553234509He wasn't in Kuro 2 because they didn't want him pulling focus (presumably from Swin/Nadia)>>553234962You dont need to win to not overshadow someone.
Cute and canon!
>>553235273But Rean doesn’t overshadow Van at all, his route and screentime is far less than vans. People see one scene with Rean and think that’s equivalent to the whole game due to confirmation bias. People even argue there was too much padding in vans route but at least vans route had more character development and interaction. Rean isn’t some boogeyman that steals your screentime. There’s plenty of writers pets besides Rean like renne, Nadia, and swin
>>553235316Erm that's not Sully
>>553234891Nobody cares about Swin and Nadia. If you look up Kai on youtube you find mostly Rean as if he was the main MC of Kai. That's what i mean.
if you're a buyfag on amazon, theres a decent chance make it on launch day. I've preordered 6 months ago and they're already delaying it to the following week
>>553235567NISA marketing is not indicative of the game itself. NISA can shove Rean pictures down your throat but it doesn’t change the fact that when you play the game Rean and Kevin get far less screentime than Van.
>>553235598*decent chance it wont make it
>>553235743And yet Rean with far less screentime somehow generates more content then Van.
>>553235475>But Rean doesn’t overshadow Van at allI dont agree. What little marketing this game had was centered on the prologue with him and Kevin. Especially when they market stuff like pic related.>vans route had more character developmentDude they totally shafted Judith and gave it to Kevin and the demon plot has been essentially abandoned. RThe only character development that happens is with Risette, Agnes and events in Grim Sharten.
>>553220834>>553224293Routeshit in Haji worked because for the most part CS4 concluded the Cold Steel arc and Haji essentially tied up the loose ends remaining from CS/Crossbell while getting the ball rolling for Calvard(literally what Sky 3rd was). On top of that Haji was built with routes in mind and you saw that when the different routes crossed-paths each other(Fighting the Class VII vs. Rufus/Swin/Nadia/Lapis fight from both perspectives, Lloyd and Rufus' groups having to work together to clear their respective dungeons, etc.). Whereas in Kai, past the prologue you didn't really see any of the routes interacting with each other outside of Garten shit.
why would people get hyped for van when falcom refuse to actually let him be a protagonist? hes irrelevant to the plot and he almost no real hype protagonist moments and he had the share the spot for 2/3 of his games.
>>553236160They will probably give more development to Judith once she confronts Dominic over what happened to Agnes. You’re making presumptions when Kai 2 isn’t out yet. Even other arcs needed that final game to finish character developments for some characters. Like I said you’re letting marketing skew your views instead of the game itself. Why does it bother you that this poster has him in the middle. Play the game itself and you will see that van is the main guy who figured out the remnants and is actually the solution to the problem if you look at the datamine
>>553235743The fact that they even do that is them admitting they've got no faith in the others. Hell, Falcom gave only Class VII new art for Kai and not the actual main cast.
>>553236158Like i said, why are you looking at marketing instead of the game itself, once people play the game they will know Van is the mc. Plus not every NISA and other channel thumbnails has Rean. You just have some sort of boogeyman with the character so seeing him makes you lose site about what Kai is about which is the loops and the dawn being set up by the vestiges/remnants
>>553236340>They will probably give more development to JudithTheres no evidence of that. >Even other arcs needed that final game to finish character developments for some characters. The issue here is things are still moving slowly or not at all. Qurate's angel stuff? Gone. Judith? Grimcatz lore given to Kevin? Demons? Defacto abandoned. Also due to Falcoms fuck up this WAS supposed to be the final.>look at the dataminePeople have to do that because the games gives so little info now.
>>553236430I don’t know why you’re so obsessed with what a localizer thinks when this general dislikes their opinions most of the time. You care more about their merchandise than the actual game itself. Who cares if class 7 gets that image you posted, Reans route is still the weakest character wise. You are making class 7 a bigger deal than they actually are
>>553235743>>553236525>the fact that when you play the game Rean and Kevin get far less screentime than Van.>once people play the game they will know Van is the mc. And that's why Nips fucking hated Kai once they played it, because they had to be stuck with a garbage MC like Van for most of the game instead of the actually hyped characters Rean and Kevin.
I hope remaking Sky reminds Falcom that the series was as its best when they kept it simple and focused. The Hajimarification of the mainline series was a mistake. The routes, episodes, grind dungeons, 100 playable characters are ok for the gaiden games but don't belong in the mainline and drag everything town.
>>553236832I agree that the arc is moving slowly but it still doesn’t refute my point that it’s not over yet. I mentioned the datamine to tell you that van is still the core of this game unlike Rean that you keep hyperfocusing on. I’m not telling you that Kai is a good or bad game I’m telling you that it’s not as Rean brained as you think it is
>>553236430To-wifeycutest!
>>553236430Fans can’t be this stupid being perplexed by Falcom wanting money by making promotional art of popular characters.
>>553236892Im not talking about them. Its Kondo/Falcom and what they say/do.>>553237120>it’s not over yetNot officially no. But the morale is long gone.>van is still the core of this gameYou mean Agnes. This entire arc is centered on her, her family and her family heirlooms.
.>:)
>>553237375i mean its pretty indicative of their priorities that the new cast get 0 promotion
>>553237382Kondo/falcom still had Van route have the most screentime, they do care about Van otherwise they would have Rean and Kevin’s group join in on final dungeon. The arc isn’t over, Van could still be the core plus everything in Kuro 1 was centered on him he’s the big factor for pandemonium. Agnes was able to do the things she did in Kai because of everything she has been through since meeting Van. Wanting to protect him and aso is what gave her the will to do what she did. I guess it could be a protag and deauteragonist thing like Estelle and Joshua idk but Vans whole “helping people who are lost” might be a theme to negate that people who want a new dawn
>>553234114
If Falcom are this willing to throw the Calvard characters under the bus how can you ever trust them to make and develop new characters ever again when the arc is over? At this point the next arc should be entirely returning characters and 0 newbies.
>>553237375You get more popular characters by not sharing them and giving them stuff
>>553238005I disagree, characters like Elaine, Agnes, Shizuna, and jolda are new arc characters and they did well in the poll
Toval is so much cooler than Towa holy shit on god for real for real
>>553238092Agnes only got popular because of Kai. They said they tried getting her popular before that to no avail. Huh...its almost like having the characters do significant stuff...matters?!
>>553238350kondo thinks people dont like van because hes old and not because hes irrelevant to his own arc so i doubt they understand why agnes finally got popular
>>553238484Haha.....that's our Falcom....
>>553238350If people cared about being "relevant" then characters like Elaine and Crow would have been nowhere near the top 10 in the poll.
>>553215779This real? How did they already get their hands on the Horizon rleease? Looks photoshopped.
>>553238802review copies have been out for weeks the embargo lifted yesterday
>>553238627Characters like Elaine are an outlier. Crow rides off the stuff he did before and this being his first return.
>>553238802Half a day from now all of horizon will be on cgiinfernos channel. I’m not buying the game but just looking at the terms nisa use in the event we don’t get a fan translation for Kai 2 so I didn’t want to get confused if I am forced to play nisa Kai 2
That's why you should never let femoids translate games for men. They will always find a way to use it for their deep running misandry.
>>553239774what the fuck?
>>553239774Agnes is punched up in the localization. I feel like they didn’t need to since in Kai already Agnes was pretty bold already but yea it’s a weird translation. I think it depends on what editor is working on a specific scene like some lines are more close to the fanpatch than others which is surprising considering daybreak 2 was way more fanfic like
>>553239774this makes no sense lmao
>>553239774>half-joking half-serious harem offer >violent threat to reinforce monogamyAre NISA girls more pure?
>>553235273You do realize you are comparing an MC to two non MCs, right?
>>553241078the NISA girls are fanfiction
>>553241154>fanfiction about girls not being slutsI'll take it.
If anything, NISA is just more blatantly pro-Agnes lol
>>553241359More like the head editor for daybreak 2 and horizon is more pro Agnes than hatsuu
>>553239774Yea horizons localization is messed up and you know what the sad part is, it has more right translations than daybreak 1 and 2 those had far more fanfiction. But then ulrica kind of makes horizon not as good either so idk. Daybreak 1 actually had lore mistakes and story errors
Doesn’t matter which version between NISA and fan translation is more accurate, people in this general will still not play the games and even the ones they do have shit reading comprehension that they will still misunderstand the game anyways relating to story and characters.
>>553239774NISA's change makes no sense. She basically tries to hide being hurt after the rejection, by saying these self derogatory things. Basically "Look I'm totally okay if you pick another girl" - even though deep inside she wants to cry. Have these localizers no emotional awareness? Fucking sociopaths.
>>553242896She's not dying inside, she has a crush.
>>553243141Read my post again.
falcom dont have the balls to let agnes win
>>553242896You're autistic and have a blind hatred for localizers like most of this thread because you niggers want to fit in so badly
>>553243283She is not going to win since they have started to cater to the west. They know Agnes is controversial in the west they ain’t going to make her win
So who is credited for the localization in the ending credits?
I'm gonna be honest, the ones that so desperately want Agnes to "win" are all horny idiot girls (womanchildren, even).
>>553243601t. Hag like Elaine
>>553243283They do but only at the end of the series, same for Tita x Agate. Why? Because Asian writers are mostly dudes who haven't really been successful with women, they don't know how their own characters would act in a relationship. Let's say Van and Agnes would've kissed in Daybreak 1. How would they progress through D2/Horizon? If post SC Estelle and Joshua are any indication, Falcom has no answer.
What happened to all the Elainefags anyway?
>>553243601I frankly don’t care who wins. I just want falcom to make an individual canon because falcom intended for that to happen themselves not because they are catering to the west. If falcom wants Elaine to win then it should be because they intended that from the start not originally plan for Agnes and then at the last second change their minds. Maybe Kai 2 will expand Elaines character more since Kincaid is one of the big bads
>>553243757Hello womanchild brat.
i like agnes more because she actually tries to push van forward with his life whereas all elaine does is guilt trip him and try to keep him stuck in the past
>>553243856Those chances vanished the moment Van was compared, in-series, to Rean. It's clear Falcom never intended for any canon romance, just more haremshit.
>>553243527It’s a different head editor than the one that did daybreak 2 but that same daybreak 2 head editor is still part of the team. Hatsuu is no longer with NISA and daybreak 1 was the last game she was involved with. Horizons localization isn’t ideal but imo it’s better than daybreak 1 people don’t know how many changes that game got and actually got a lot of lore wrong as well
>>553244324Even if they do, Falcom doesn't.
>>553243849they died after kuro 1
>>553243880Not even a woman, you sound like one though. Like Hagtsuu.But I will be magnanimous - why are the pro Agnes crowd "horny idiot girls"?
Smelly Shizuna feet
>>553244796The reasons why they want it so desperately are all femoid ones. List them off and ask yourself if this statement is wrong, especially with how little they actually care about Van as a character.
>especially with how little they actually care about Van as a character.That's Falcom's fault, because they don't care enough to develop him past DB1 to begin with.
>>553244112Typically if you want a ‘canon’ romance you make intentions clear and not just add more characters infatuated with the MC and have separate scenes teasing other romance options. Shit was cooked since Kuro 1 people just don’t want admit it.
>>553245496i hope they at least let you choose who you want if theyre so commited to the haremshitthis endless teasing is just obnoxious
>>553245089I am not a woman and don't think an Agnes or Elaine end is bad one regardless of what happens. But I think people side with Agnes more because they see her fall in love with Van, they see how it is an uphill battle because funnily enough Van is the biggest moralfag in this series and because he clearly has feelings and other baggage with Elaine. But Agnes is proactive. She tries to close the distance between her and Van and tries her best to make sure he sees her as a woman, and yes, that includes being helped by her coworkers.You'd have a point if all Agnes did was blush and be meek and fantasized about Van, but she wants to make shit happen. The willingness to act on her feelings makes people around her and IRL cheer her on.
>Old fart jokes from the first time we meet him all the way to finaleAaron please stop... Do people actually find this funny?
>>553246251if youre gonna "localize" at least give the insults some variety
>>553245598>this endless teasing is just obnoxiousAgreed. It kinda works in a high school setting when the MC is a teenager but Van's an old man.
>>553246251That’s NISA version for Aaron calling Van “old man”. I don’t like it. Are there other ways “Osaan” is localized?
>>553246251yeah idk why nisa is so obsessed with "old fart" it sounds like something a 12 year old would say not a rude 19 year old
>>553168340Trails of Subhumans
>>553246251Aaron sounds much better in jp. I don’t think Howard was a good pick for Aaron English he doesn’t sound like a delinquent. English dub makes Aaron sound like some wasian prep school dude
>>553243601agnes is so unabashedly vanbrained that I would just feel bad if she became cucknes.Though both girls would be good ends for him. Agnes is just more compelling because she's doing all the work while elaine is mostly in the sidelines looking cute
>>553246251i did find the old fart line pretty repetitive
>>553246314They did. He'd called Van old man all the time if there was no variety. He could also call him unc, but the more neurodivergent crowd, aka /fg/, would seethe about it.This is not a NISA thing you are complaining about but a Falcom one. Plus it just seems like you guys didn't see the bond event Aaron and Van have in the blacklight district arena. Or are just fucking oblivious to age old anime tropes of younger guys calling anyone older than them gramps or granny.
>>553246745Anies should become cucknes because it's funny
Ulrica is going to be voiced by an ethically Indian VA. Because of the Bindi on her forehead.Screenshot this post.
>>553247034wrong
>>553247079Blacks will try to claim her like they did with Schera.
>>553247251What happened with schera?
>>553247251isnt schera voiced by a white girl
>>553247310Twitterniggers painted her skin darker to undo the "white washing" Falcom did in CS4.
>>553247159Nah I'm right, it's funny. Her watching from the chair as all the others form a line to use his Demon Dick is even funnier.
>>553247310>>553247443Redditors also made a mod.
>>553243283They might. I get the feeling they were testing reactions with the whole Agnes thing while still keeping options. If they keep going with the whole Van harem it would be pretty disrespectful to her after the rejection and western fans would complain as well.
>>553247445wrong
>>553247445Who, exactly, are "the others" in this case?
>>553247660I disagree, western fans, the loud minority part of it, for sure alerted falcom that they prefer Elaine and falcom is aware that west doesn’t like Van and Agnes due to her age. Kai 2 will be the test to see how much they pander too. Cs4 was made in 2018 and Falcom didn’t care about west that much and anime wasn’t that strict at the time so the whole Rean romancing students thing was fine for them. But west hated the harem as per the constant arguments and boring discussions of it color cs4 discourse
>>553247660>If they keep going with the whole Van harem it would be pretty disrespectful to herHow? If you can pick your girl in Kai 2 just pick Agnes. If you pick another girl then it is a you problem. That's the beauty of choice. Everyone gets to decide who the MC ends up with. Fags who complain about harem are literally just saying they don't want anyone else to enjoy another romance choice that is not their ship. Harem haters are retarded.
>>553247443Really? When I played cold steel 4 to me she seemed tan skinned as she did in Sky it’s just obviously she will look different character model shading than the portrait in Sky. I never thought she was “white skinned” she was pretty dark/tan in cs4 model
>>553244112>>553245496They really push the romance in the Calvard arc though and it affects the plot. This isn't like CS where it was side thing you could ignore. People are gonna be pissed If Van romance isn't resolved and Agnes, Elaine and other girls orbit him.
>>553248257The west will explode if Van gets with Agnes. Falcom isn’t going to piss of the west. Elaine is popular in both west and japan and not “controversial”. ELAINE WILL WIN THE VANBOWL
>>553247669I'm absolutely right.>>553247854Emilia, Shizuna, Risette, Saara, Shasheena, Judith, Olympia, Lucrezia, Halle, Marielle, Mare, Feri, Yume, Quatre, and finally Elaine in the back of the line.
>>553248608If you want it to be funny you need both Elaine and Agnes to sit in the cuck chair.
Vankid really is just a lapsed Reanfag huhNot really surprised though
>>553248380Agnes is more popular. Way to piss off over 50% of your fanbase (yes Japs would rage if Elaine wins). Kondom is stupid, but not this stupid.
>>553248998When you see them side by side in the promotional art... Jesus! They could've gave Van different color hair or something.
>>553248998you really hate it when people talk about anything that isnt cold steel dont you lmao
>>553248608>Emilia firstYou could just say you're a Hermesfag bro, no need for the whole cuck routine.
>>553248963Nah the humor comes in Elaine having to watch all the rest use him before she gets a chance, even a hologram, a tranny, a girl on the cusp of womanhood, and a child. She's desperate enough for Big Ban-san Cock that she would agree to it too. And then Anies gets to serve as the punchline.>>553249462It was a choice between her or Shizuna, only reason Emilia is there first is just because I remembered her actually kissing Van lmao.
>>553249106She is more popular but Elaine is still close behind. Plus like I said falcom doesn’t care about just Japan they now started to care about Japan and west simultaneously. They endorsed a merchandise shop for the west(guild loot) and they even reduced the fanservice dlc in Sky the first. Elaine will win because she is someone that caters to both audiences and falcom doesn’t want controversy. 2023 dev time they didn’t care but afterwards they now care about the west. Elaine will win and I say this as an Agnes and Van shipper
>>553248052How do you even know this? Who did this?
Honestly horizons localization is better than most localizations at least they didn’t pull an FE engage or square enix now those are bad localizations that change 100 percent. At the very least I have the fan translation of Kai so I’m good regardless
>>553249160They allegedly tried.>>553249294Says the one constructing elaborate harem/cuckold fantasies.
>nuh huh my waifu makes more sense than your waifu!!!What a sad, sack of shit arc AND fanbase.
>>553250093Localizers are the ones that are in communication with falcom so they would say their piece to them of what they think and what Americans prefer or want. Falcom said that in the shareholder meeting back in 2024 that they started to make games while thinking about other countries in mind. Kondo gave an example of how cigarettes are strict in China market.
>>553249821In that case, you would give Elaine that false hope of getting with Van the entire time then when it's her turn you pull the rug out from under her by telling her that the pool's closed.
>>553249967Again, they are about to lose over 50% of their Japs customers. Shit like this almost killed the Tales of series. Bamco switched the heroine to another chick while the assumed main girl was more popular. Fans ended up sending threat letters to the voice actress of the other girl, even had the seiyuu apologize publicly. The game director had to step down. Kondom knows fully well how autistic Japan is. It would fucking kill the company. After all Japs sales are still by far higher then westoid sales, according to the last financial numbers.
>>553250268if reanspics arent picking fights with other arc enthusiasts they fight amongst themselves over waifu wars in a worse degree than any other arc fans, so i don't know what you're even getting atlookAlisa or Altina?
>>553250396I’m not saying that falcom will only cater to the west. I’m saying that they will make a decision that caters to BOTH Japan and west simultaneously. Elaine fits that bill. Putting Elaine with Van doesn’t give them controversy on the western side. And there’s enough fans of Elaine in Japan that it wouldn’t be as bad. If this was 2023 or 2024 then I would agree and say Agnes will win. But after sky the first and falcom not making Kai 2, I think falcom has given up on catering to only japan. I gave the example of falcom now endorsing a western merchandise shop the guild loot.
>>553250334That doesn't answer my question, though. This sounds like semi substantiated guesswork and basically all of Japan thinks they need to conquer markets outside of itself. And yes, that includes the west and china.
>>553250518>I might be putrid shit but what bout that diarrhoea over there??You're the most pathetic poster in the entirety of 4chan. Maybe even the Internet. You better pray Chris Chan doesn't die.
>>553250371It's better to let her see all the others taking turns splashing around in the pool, spilling liquid everywhere, only for her to finally get a chance and realize that the water doesn't even reach her knees. And she would STILL swim in it, kek.
>>553250396By your logic 50 percent of fans will just rage if Agnes is picked so what’s the difference if it’s Elaine or Agnes. Your numbers suggest that no matter who they pick falcom will get fucked
This is why none of the girls will win.
>>553250912Where do you think falcom gets western feedback from? They get it from people they are in direct communication with. Plus NISA themselves have translators who can communicate to the falcom members who have weaker English. You think falcom looks at Reddit for feedback
>>553241142>two defacto MCs in 1 game and the guy who's technically the MC
>>553250981says the nigger that can't see this arc for anything other than waifuwarskeep being mad, i guess
I hope Falcom makes Van pick Rean instead of Elaine or Agnes because i bet the fan reactions would be really funny
>>553244112Wrong. Calvard is the closest we've gotten to actual story romance since Sky.
>>553251278Aren't you supposed to be at work Reanasis
>>553251248Yeah, that's why my very first post ITT is criticizing waifuwars. Actual illiterate mongoloid.
>>553251364>She actually believes thisKEK
>>553250887You are ignoring what I said. Falcom's main profits still come from Japan. We know it because we got their last financial report. It would be suicidal to risk angering and potentially losing half of their customer base from their strongest market. In other words: the losses over in Japan would be higher if Elaine wins than the losses from a westoid outcry if Agnes wins.
>>553251371I'm not Reanasis thoughbeiti just want to see the melty when both Elainefags and Agnesfags get blueballed
>>553251560Oh right she's an Agnesfag too. Well that's still gay bro.
>>553251248To be fair to him Falcom basically did the same thing.
>>553251467>he thinks these are waifuwarsWhat a stupid nigger lmao. Again keep being mad.
>>553251502There are people in Japan who would rage if Elaine lost by your logic. Shes 2nd place in the poll for Kai and she was first place in Kuro 1 poll. She’s beloved in Japan too. Japan is higher than west but not by a longshot like it was 5 years ago. 2023-2025 was a huge shift in western growth. Why would falcom care for jp when they can get the combined value of jp and west
>>553251484Romance is actually in the main plot. You're only reacting this way because you dont want either Agnes or Elaine to win. You screamed for canon and now we're getting it.
>>553251898>There are people in Japan who would rage if Elaine lost by your logic.Which is why Kondom will not do a canon romance but let the player pick. It's the best solution. Letting the player decide is always the best way to handle it.
>>553251871Weren't you "leaving shortly"? Lol.
>>553250887>I’m saying that they will make a decision that caters to BOTH Japan and west simultaneously.I mean that does sound reasonable >>553252207He already ruled that out. And Kai further shows a canon choice will occur.
Reanaslut is fucking weird, she wants Agnes to steal away Elaine after the rejection but also wants Van to have been a girl and yet her taste in Calvardian men is schizophrenic. I don't understand women.
>>553252295Nope. Are you gonna still be here bitching about people are talking about or will you contribute something meaningful beyond "waifu wars"?My guess is no because you likely haven't even played this arc and are very desperate to feel like you fit in by shitting on like half of the losers ITT.
>>553252321>He already ruled that out.Kondom says many things, 90% are lies. Are you a newfag?>And Kai further shows a canon choice will occur.How? There is nothing in the game that cements a canon romance.
>>553251167That still doesn't answer the question of how you know what the feedback is. Especially because these games are overly pro-Agnes if anything.
>>553252650>Kondom says many things,Sure but this time he backed it up>How?Agnes literally confessed to him in the main story. And according to Kondo Elaine's confession was also meant to be in the main story. And right at the end the last things he thinks about before the reset are those two and grendel. A canon choice with one of them is happening.
>>553253036I said it before when Kuro to Kai was being developed falcom was not very west focused because of the long release gaps between jp and localization. 2022 when Kai was being developed was before falcom saw western revenue skyrocket. Now that west is doing better and catching up and the domestic market in Japan has been fucked since march of 2025, falcom will now cater more to the west and japan together and get feedback from the only people in America they communicate with. Hasn’t sky the first dlc already proven to you how much falcom has changed in just one year? Falcom even changed “sexist” remarks from their own original story in Sky remake
>>553252643Your current meltdown began because I posted this >>553250268.Did the ugly sad sack of shit insult trigger your high school trauma or something?Either way feel free to disengage now, Aniesfaggot.
>>553253165>A canon choice with one of them is happening.A canon no choice status quo is happening, m8.
>>553253165>And according to Kondo Elaine's confession was also meant to be in the main story.And we know fully well that Van didn't reject her because he has romantic feelings for Agnes. He even said it out loud. His rejection stems from the demon shit he's dealing with. So the only thing canon is that Van is still not ready to make a choice, whatever choice that might be. Point being: there is no indication in the game that we'll have a canon romance.
>>553229337Wrong. He did it to drug her and give her the harmonica>He's an open bookWrong he witholds everything affecting him
>>553253641Nta but can literally says “I don’t have romantic feelings for you” to Agnes
>>553253918*van
>>553253641>So the only thing canon is that Van is still not ready to make a choiceBut their will be a choice between them since Falcom keeps emphasising these two. Even Kuro 2 has you pick these same two.>but it didn't matter in Kuro 2Sure however again these two are constantly pushed so it's safe to say theyre the options for him.
Just take a step back and realize you're a grown ass man investing your time yelling at another grown ass man about how the niche JRPG protag will TOTES end up with the generic anime blonde 1 instead of the generic anime blonde 2That's you, that's your lifeFucking KEK
>>553253335You said that they'd be pro Elaine when NISA is hilariously pro-Agnes. Also, I don't think changing a few lines, said by a kid and an NPC's literal first impression of Estelle, are indicative of a big, sweeping seachange. Sounds like a slippery slope is the crux of your argument. Plus, they gave away a free swimsuit for Estelle and you can technically see her panties in the towel outfit. An outfit they also gave Tita. Again, it is not just Falcom that now feels their games have to appeal to people outside Japan. If anything, it is late in chasing that trend.
>>553253918And upon asking if Elaine is the reason he says it isn't. Van's whole arc is about him not allowing to have deep bonds with people because of the demon shit and what happened to him in his childhood. It's him trying to run away from Agnes' feelings like he ran away back when he was together with Elaine. Him saying "I don't have feelings for you" is actually him saying "I don't allow myself have feelings for you", really. The whole point of his arc will be to open his heart and accept one of the two girls. And thus accept himself in the process.
>>553253902Nope, seems like you have to replay the game. Joshua trusts in Estelle because she dispels his fears. And there is again no reason he HAD to say anything to her before disappearing. It is a clear indication he doesn't want to do it but has to and because he trusts her with the truth. Him drugging her to sleep is not mistrust. Plus you claimed their relationship is "parent-like" and yet Cassius doesn't ever drop everything he is doing to hunt down Ouroboros because they had a run in with Estelle. Midwit argument all around, anon.
>>553254412>an outfit they also gave tita What? Tita has no swimsuit dlc it’s just cafe and school uniform
>>553255790Read carefully. Towel outfit. Aka hotsprings outfit. Anyone that starts NG+ can get those.
>>553254720I mean everything you’re saying is pure speculation that we can only find out in Kai 2. But van literally does not see Agnes romantically in Kai and even said it. Just rewatch the scene in fan translation or NISA version. The main pure reason isn’t because Agnes is his employer but because he doesn’t see her romantically that was made very clear by him before Agnes started crying
>OnlyVansOk, this seems funny joke. Like a "biggus dickus".
>>553256001Towel outfits are still far less fanservice like than the bunny outfits in Kai. And Tita is a special case due to her being younger than even feri and altina in their dlc playable games. Like I said many times, falcom is trying to cater to BOTH west and japan they will find a balance. I hope they don’t but after sky the first I doubt it and they might get feedback for that game as well
trails into bad trannylation (again)
>>553256356This has all been an extremely roundabout way to say you have been talking out of your ass, anon. Your statement changed from>they're gonna push Elaine in Kai 2 to>they are finding a way to appeal to Japan and the westAnd the latter seems pretty fucking self-explanatory to anyone with an interest in weeb games and media. Anime, at least in online spaces, is now ubiquitous in the west.
>>553256092>But van literally does not see Agnes romantically in Kai and even said it.Have you not played the two prior games? Are you deliberately pretending his character arc does not exist? It's not speculation it's understanding context. Hell, even before the confession there is a moment when Van shortly loses his cool but quickly puts on his wall in front of his heart again. His rejection is merely an act. To fool Agnes, but most of all himself.
>>553257370We will know if the rejection is an act come Kai 2. There is no way of knowing Van has feelings for her romantically in the first three games. He cares for her a lot more than a friend but not romantically. This can change in Kai 2 but you’re looking for unnecessary subtext when Van himself is very clear. He even lets Kincaid take Agnes because Kincaid asks Van if Agnes is a special someone to him and Van lets her go(which he will regret come Kai 2)
>>553256760Nta but the dlc costumes even the Estelle swimsuit are far less revealing than the Kai outfits and the Kuro 2 racing suits. The cafe waiter outfits even have spats on older characters like schera
>>553257975>This can change in Kai 2 but you’re looking for unnecessary subtext when Van himself is very clear.My subtext is Kuro 1, Kuro 2 and Kai. Get some media literacy. But when even Falcom's blatant "subtleties" are to hard for you I fear nothing will help you.
When I played Kuro 2, I thought there would be a love triangle. But Elaine is like a minor character. There is no love chemistry with her.
>>553256303nah it's awful, it would make no sense unless OnlyFans exists in-universe but the Orbal network is too new and monitored for sexual content to exist and be widespread like that
>>553258402Your media literacy is even less if you can’t even see that van explicitly said to Agnes he doesn’t see her romantically. And like I said, Kai 2 can for sure change this we will see. Agnes sacrifice will for sure make Van rethink how he thinks of her. But nowhere in the 3 games did Van ever think of Agnes as a potential romance partner
>>553258460It's actually a reference to an Orbalnet site called OnlyVans; it's a vehicle enthusiast site, particularly about Vans, which Van would know about.
Anyone that thinks the romance subplot won't end in choose your waifu slop is coping.
>>553258132Sure, but that doesn't make the bunny suits or racer outfits sexier. Honestly I think Agnes' sexiest outfit is still her uniform and I think the see through skirt on Estelle's swimsuit is a very lewd touch. Plus, the breast physics are intact and still semi realistic insofar as Estelle's tits look different when she presumably has a bra on and when she doesn't.I happen to think towel Schera is sexier than a lot of Kai or Calvard outfits. Grimcatz and Grimkitty do take the cake though; it is easily the sexiest Falcom outfit to date that also looks cool.
>>553258992Choice between whom? There is only Agnes. Maybe joke easter egg variant - Shizuna.
>>553258992Nah. This time it'll be blonde 1 or 2.
>>553258460The orbal net is rife with scammers in Kuro and it has Twitch/bilibili. Sites where people can post sexy pics isn't exactly crazy.
>>553259225Nta but it's down to Agnes and Elaine. With Agnes probably winning in some form.
>>553258460There was an npc in Kuro 1 that got his account hacked after looking at some gravure/swimsuits of women online
>>553259216The point I was making isn’t about your personal sexual preferences. The point is falcom has reduced the amount of things shown through the dlc in just one year gap of games
Wr all know that Alfin win
>upgraded from 1060 to 9060 xt>kuro @ 60fps from lowest settings to ultraSomehow it does not look much better except for shadows and distant objects, and I suppose the forest in part 1 won't lag anymore. Ready for Kai.
>>553259745Alfinsis would say this.
>>553259841Your eyes gets adjusted to the bad AA in your old set up but trust me once you go from your maxed settings to your old settings you will miss the max settings. It’s a perspective thing
>Kuro 1 released in september 2021What a journey boys. Half a decade went in a flash.
>>553259414The most boring and predictable option is what falcum always does
>>553260314>t. man who has never correctly predicted Falcom
>>553260048I can't bear the grendel for much longer...
>>553260048It only came out two years ago in the places that matter. Shouldn't have spoiled the game for yourself m8.
>>553260390proofs?
>>553260314Haha.....well....
>>553260507Call it intuition haha
>>553260525Haha... I know what you mean... it's just as expected...
>>553260601That's our anon-kun.. haha...
>>553260048If Kai 2 isnt the end then.....
honest opinion on ban-san english va? imo he killed it, jap seems too sterile
Never heard it, never will.
>>553260783I hear praises for him but I never understood them. Jp van can yell better and can even be more emotional. The English va just seems like a novice plus in horizon often times his voice sounds raspy and inconsistent with how he usually sounds
>>553189436>fixed the writingThe writers at Falcom be like "Yeah, let's have a father leave his daughter with a brat who tried to assassinate him, could have succeeded and not even confiscate his weapons".
>>553260048>the calvard arc was originally meant to be three games>instead it's four games, and at least seven years to complete it
>>553260998yeah in roars japs are unmatched, though he still did well. maybe my bar is too low after hearing so many terrible VAs
>Joshua perma virgin with his gf>Lyod forever status quo>Van with his cringe twillight romance dramaMeanwhile Reanchad is pretty happy with his canon wife Altina.
>>553260731Realistically we have Kai 2, Kai 3 and the Calvard bridge game to the next arc. Kai 2 is coming out 2027 at earliest but potentially 2028. Falcom isn't only putting out one game after that. The years before Kai 2 are going to be filled with half baked ideas that'll fill two games.
>>553261296When I said yells I didn’t just mean in combat but when Van is pissed or yelling at someone like when he yelled at Aaron in Kuro 1 or yelled at Jeffrey in Kai plus when he yelled at Agnes for being prepared to sacrifice herself in the ending before she sacrificed herself
>>553260783Daisuke Ono might be great but he's too old for Van and causes incongruity in the character Damien Haas makes Van come to life as an actual 24 year old weirdo
>>553259730This is going to get into semantics, but then I don't get your point. I think Estelle's swimsuit is more revealing than the Z1 outfits, but less than the Calvard swimsuits (some of which are lazy reused CS ones) and the hotsprings outfit is too because with a free cam mod you can see everyone's panties. You can also see Kloe's in her regular outfit. To your credit, ass is pretty much the one thing we don't really see that well in Sky, but again, Estelle's swimsuit does give us a line that seperates the glute from the leg.And if the sexiness is still there, I see little to complain about and more importantly, just makes your argument seem weaker.
>>553261606thanks for the spoiler bro
>>553261541
>>553261638The “weirdo” part gets enhanced and exaggerated in the NISA translation. He’s not as quirky as nisa makes him out to be. Plus Van serves as a kind of mentor or someone that has the charisma and matureness to help people find their way like his spriggan clients
>>553262049Ponder the aroma
>>553261945I haven't played the NISA versions since I used the patches, things like the childish obsession with sweets and cars fit better with a younger VanAnd his weird behaviour around Elaine and Agnès fit that too, a charismatic and mature person would have a serious talk with both of them and sort things out rather than dragging it out by pointlessly dodging it for 3 games
>>553261945He is never presented as weirdo by NISA, though. Or even that quirky compared to most of his party. He is a mentor and looks after his crew as he is older, but he wants to do it behind a facade of coolness, detachment and wisdom and they all see past it and know he is just a big softy. And I do not see how that conflicts nor how the JP script would be much different
>>553262195She's 15 bro...
Do girls actually like it when you're aroused by their smells
>>553262664Reanasis... your horny is showing AGAIN...
>>553263097I am not her.
>>553262664He is a weirdo in jp too and quirky as well, but I said that NISA “enhanced” or increased the quirkiness. Jp van wouldn’t say something like “trouble with a capital t” or “is it bother van day?” NISA even makes it so that he drops his g’s when saying some words that have them like “goin”. The way he’s localized is for sure in a different direction than how he’s supposed to be. It’s not that bad come horizon but daybreak 1 and 2, vans quirks and vocab are given liberties by the localizers
>>553262049I want all of the Calvard girls to receive belly dancer costumes. Then Van's harem would look like an actual harem
>>553262493He does have a serious talk with Elaine and Agnes in Kai about dg cult stuff and rejecting confessions. Van does get serious especially with the way he dealed with Aaron in langport by not wanting him to be a killer
>>553260783lmao comparing Daisuke Ono to Damien Haas is like comparing God to a gypsy.
>>553263548One doesn't exist but is venerated by midwits and the other contributes to society?
>>553260783What? He sounds like an white dude using African American. Horrible.
NISA should have used Michael Tatum to play Van but they probably couldn’t afford him. Or maybe NISA likes autistic people like Damien haas who are cheaper and newer vas as well
>>553263751Gypsies are the worst people in society. They're hated for a reason.
>>553263338I don't think giving him a Southern twist is really making him any more quirkier than he already is. Or the idioms he uses.
>>553264306It’s done a lot better in horizon but in daybreak 1 and 2 it was worse. Van was a lot ruder and immature and talked like he wasn’t intelligent in daybreak 1 and 2 especially daybreak 2. If you play the fan translation and then the games you will see that
In order to take any discussion about localisation seriously, people need to denounce Sky's localisation in every post.
>>553263078No, it's very feminine to be aroused by smells.
>>553262049Every girl in Zemuria shows their ass.
Every girl in Zemuria shares the same exact assThis means every male in Zemuria has fucked every girl in Zemuria in the assOn account of every male in Zemuria having fucked Renne the Whore
>>553264717I legitimately have no idea what you're talking about because he doesn't come across that way at all.
>>553264839Can femanons confirm or deny
>>553265068I’m not saying rude and immature in a general personality standpoint I’m saying that some NISA translations make him rude or talking like he’s a Disney adult in some lines that he’s meant to be more kind and smart sounding
has they explained yet if theres anything apart of zamaria
>>553265430ESL-kun...
>>553244141>people don’t know how many changes that game got and actually got a lot of lore wrong as wellI'm curious about this. Is there anywhere I can find a comparison?
>>553265245Sure, but that sounds like a totally different thing that has little to do with him being some quasi-US southern dude in Calvard.
>>553265962Kasims reputation was wrong. NISA says “strongest warrior” which confused a lot of English players but in jp it’s meant to be called “top class” or “among the strongest”. NISA made it seem like kasim is the strongest warrior in the world where the right translation is among the strongest. There’s others too but there’s many sites to look for it
Bro how much more clear can I say it to you???I'm a Western male, I don't have a weird Japan fetish so I WANT localisations that adapt the product to my language, culture and the humor and behaviour I likeIf you don't like it that's cool too, you can learn Japanese or use your MTL patch I don't care But omg you can stop now with this insistence that I should be upset at NISA for giving me exactly what I wantIt's not working, you've pushed this for decades now and I still DON'T care, I WANT localisationsI'm NOT ashamed of the West and my culture
>>553267036Haha....you can't just say that bro...
>the NISA localization for Kai is more explicit about Rixia being the canon romance for LloydEliebros... Not like this...
>>553267297It's just getting annoying honestly, Ulrika is funny and I'm looking forward to all her scenes now but these people have to insist that this is a bad thing actually
>>553267606I get you, but on the bright side, just remember this is the definition of a vocal minority. /fg/ has maybe 40 posters tops, and maybe 20-30 that incessantly harp about localization and AI MTLslop without ever bothering to learn Japanese. And a lot of these same people hate everything Falcom does.
>>553268024That's true, I guess I let it get to me My bad, I'll go play some vidya to wind down
Choose your fighter.
Would Reanasis prefer being called beautiful or sexy?
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>>553269252Damn!
>>553269252
>>553269069All arounder>>553269252Striker>>553269426Grappler
>>553269426
women shouldn't fight, it's beneath their intellect and beauty
*fully wreathed in madness from endless sexlessness and rejection* hehehehahahahahahahahHAHAHAH.... YouR AlL goNNA DiE nOW...................... .. . . .. .. . *enters devil form* yoUR FiniShEd
>>55326802440 is extremely generous. Try maybe 20 unique posters per day after game news or new releases. This general is heavily policed by a samefagging autismo, and the rest are ritualposting gooners. Even 10 actual posters is very generous. That's how insignificant takes are here. And they're inherently warped by mental illness.
I had a dream the other night that Reanasis had to go on a bike ride with me, but the only way we could both fit on the seat was if she sat facing me and clung to me, and while I was biking it was unavoidable that we rubbed against each other so I got a boner and it was grinding against her pussy while I was biking, and she got hornier and hornier as time went on and started moaning and eventually squited on me through her clothes. It was hot af and I woke up with my blanket covered in cum, but I was so horny I immediately rubbed another one out before bothering to clean it up. Thank you, Reanasis.
>>553269426this one looks really cool
>>553261509fact
>>553269252Elaine for sure
finished reverie yesterday, now I go to calvard! :)
>>553271920Enjoy it, my friend!
>>553271920Don't go to Calvard. It's woke and gay.
>>553261286>Kondo: "We won't make future arcs as long as Cold Steel"
Femanons are so beautiful
>>553267820They changed Rufus' speedo to modest swim shorts in Kai while giving Shizuna THIS outfit
I'm okay with Kiseki being longI JUST turned 20, if the series takes another decade to wrap up it'll be over when I'm 30If I live out the average lifespan that leaves me with 50 years where my life won't have Kiseki in it and I won't have a continuous massive JRPG story to look forward to and theorycraft about I much prefer the mystery now, the elation and excitement when a new game drops that makes my heart beat faster and my breath feel sharper as I'm playing through it, the lazy Saturday mornings playing through the new game doing cool side quests and being surprised by the twists and turns and the character cameos and reveals and so onI don't want to spend 50 years of my life without this, I much prefer Falcom take their time and iron the series out over the next 20 to 30 years
>>553261509Rean is living the good life>>553272663Altina is such a little cutie
Agreed. I hope I also know Reanasis until the series ends, and who knows? Maybe somewhere along the way she'll bless me with a new pic of her... :)
IM HORNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>553273369*cums in u*
>>553273053so beautiful
>>553269069>>553269252>>553269426>>553269667>You beat all of themWhat next?
*breathing heavily* pussy ... and --- and SEX
>>553273621nani?
>>553269069>>553269252>>553269426>>553269667They didn't put up much of a fight.
>>553273821I don’t think he used “bait” meme wise that’s a common thing to say for a long time. The meme is “bait used to be believable or bait is believable”
>>553273821/fg/ in a nutshell, haha...
>>553273968Yes but knowing what NISA is capable of maybe they did use it meme-like.
>>553273537And sexy
>>553273807good ending
>>553273807Meanwhile... Van is loving life with his maid wife and celebrity wife.
>>553272096"Calvard" being code for this anon's life, btw
>>553275708nnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh unc boutta get pressed after this burn lmao
>>553275708Vankid... Everyone knows that Calvard is a terrible experience. That's why Falcom has dropped Calvard for Sky while they figure out a way to undo the damage Calvard has done.
>>553275708holy FUCKING shit
vankid melty hour
>>553275708Holy shit lmao
ACCEPPTTTTTT MEEEEE ACCEPTTTT MY COOOOOOOCK I NEED SEX AND PUSSYYYYYYYY!!!!
>>553276431vankidfag...
.............Aaahahahahaha...................................... AAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Wathc OUUUUUUUUUUTTT!!! *fires dark madnesss beam at you but tleephorts in front of it and hits myself* Im SOryy............now i hope u can forgive me and accept........
Vestige and Remnant are close but they don't mean the same thing.Vestige implies the remnant is weak and barely there. A city ruin can be a remnant but a vestige is small. At least that's how I see it.
>>553276538Na-chan love!
>>553276538Na-chan's relationship with Su-chan is a lot like the relationship me and Eliesis have
What's up with the giga melty?
>>553277346No femanons posting pics
Rumor has it she has a masculine penis.
>>553276795They use the term 'Remnant' in Jap so it's another unnecessary change like 'Beauty's Blade'.
>>553277612Why is Marielle like this
>>553278079UNH!!! *squeezes out a little bit of diarrhea on you and strains so hard my hemorrhoid bursts and a bit of ass blood leaks onto your face too* fuck you! lmfao
>>553255627>Joshuas fears are dispelled that's why he walks on eggshells around estelle and the fact that he's still a danger to her and leaves her completely in the darkRetard you're the one who needs to replay the game. >There's no reason he had to say anythingDoesn't matter. He was ruled by his fears then and now. >But he didn't want to!!So what? >It's not mistrust to drug someone against their willI'm getting the feeling I'm arguing with a woman the more this goes on>You claim their relationship is parent like and yet Cassius, a chronically absent father figure to the point that estelle is as mad at him as he loves him, and who is constantly keeping shit from her as well, is nothing like Joshua. They're so fucking alike that it's clear 5 years of living with him changed Joshua as much as estelle did, though not for the better imho. Cassius isn't a very good role model. Anyway you're the midwit unable to see past your dripping gash over Joshua's flaws and how through the course of sc he never overcomes them
I still can't get over Reverie where Heiyue assist Robo Rufus in the insurrection then get to applaud Lloyd instead of getting their shit pushed in, all their members arrested, banned from ever operating in Crossbell again and hopefully strung up from Orchis Tower.
>>553277612I love Na-chan
>>553277612Swin is so lucky
>>553278295nta but you're missing one thing. Trust in Estelle as a person doesn't mean he trusts her to have the strength to defeat Ouroboros, and he's very much correct in that, she has no fucking chance at that point in the story.
Snekstelle anon why didn't you answer me
>>553278298>own the second largest city in Calvard, 90% of the easterners in Calvard are loyal to Heiyue over the nation itself>allowed to openly subvert Crossbell numerous times with zero repercussions It's genuinely hilarious how they get away with so much shit.
FC is just all about joshua babysitting estelle's retardation.
Any update on the Sky Remake Xseed fan fiction injection project?
>>553278456The anguis of the gospel plan was another disappointment in a way, but I didn't mind his flaws as he is a bad guy and his flaws explain why he would lose. However none of that logic of ouroboros stwong can apply to Joshua's decision. If he refuses to trust in estelle then he's better off if she just goes home so he can do the shit he needs to do without her help. You can't have it both ways. The entire basis of his argument is one where estelle just takes care of the house (liberl) while he handles the threat possibly at his life's expense. Lastly there's basically zero reason that the Joshua couldn't have been defeated by estelle in the liberark. Joshuas actual strength doesn't come from being a combat junkey it was supposed to come from the way estelle changed him, that's something wiessman shouldn't have been able to make use of regardless of puppeting him.
>>553278865Which is why sc should have been about the reverse but wasn't.
>>553269667Her biting the lace is really hot
>>553278295You're a retard lolThe point of SC is Joshua overcoming his fears with Estelle's help. The fact he faced Jewmann is the very proof of that. Also lmaoing at your life>He HAD to give her the harmonica and tell her his tragic backstory>"No he didn't">d-doesn't matter!Midwit.
>>553278756>The vast majority of a race of people in the country are more loyal to a crime syndicate than the country>If you have an issue with this you're a literal white supremacist terrorist
>>553279635Don't forget most middle easterners are loyal to Elsaim too.It's like the game is fucking gaslighting its players>they totally integrated, how dare you claim otherwise you races>btw they're more loyal to the literal mafia or a foreign government than the country
>>553279591>You're a retard lol>The point of SC is Joshua overcoming his fears with Estelle's help. The fact he faced Jewmann is the very proof of that. Also lmaoing at your lifeHe faced jewman alone. He kept his entire plan from estelle and never trusted her with anything of importance. >He HAD to give her the harmonica and tell her his tragic backstory>"No he didn't">d-doesn't matter!Retard the point of him giving that backstory is to show he's afraid. If he just bailed on estelle it would look like he actually doesn't give a single fuck about her to the audiance. And he had to give her the harmonica because karin meant something to him and he fully expected to die. That's how you can tell his promise to come back is also bullshit. Jesus the entire thing is just him gaslighting estelle to wait for him the whole time but he's got your ovaries in a twist so none of that matters to you.
>>553235316Even their hair colors match. Boy blue and girl pink. Tell me that wasn't intentional
>>553279635No one ever says the latter and people like Heiyue because the accept all Easterners, and do not traffick people or drugs. They have a "code."
>>553279181lmao are you a bot?>the anguis of the gospel plan (instead of Weissmann)>Joshua should lose to Estelle on the Liber Ark despite the stigma and the fact Estelle didn't want to fight back
You fags care way too much about this stupid shit. Not even the writers themselves put this much thought into it. Stop being autistic.
Soft femanon thighs...
Hairy anon butthole....
>>553280129>and do not traffick people or drugs. They have a "code."They have a plethora of assassins on hand and do other types of crime, so they're still objectively bad even if they aren't involved with drugs and human trafficking. >>553280227>Not even the writers Yes they do. The writers go out of their way to jerk off Heiyue any change they get. You don't even need to be into the wokeshit argument to be annoyed by how hard Falcom sucks them off.
>>553280718And like most mafias, they have respect and power because they started as muscle that protected people. They are self-serving but so is literally every institution in Kiseki. Glad you dropped the schizo racist angle though.
Heiyue is probably not that complicated but the games stretching out so much is the reason the execution is lacking.
>>553280129There isn't a single person who voices a single issue with Calvard's immigration situation who isn't a caricature of a white supremacist as imagined by blue haired californians. Not a single one.No, not a single person is alloewd to be like "wait a second how is it healthy that a sizeable racial minority is racially loyal to a fucking mafia"?
I mean the issue is also the immigration thing wouldn’t be expanded more until Kai 2 due to the alter Dawn wanting a new Dawn. The problem is that only Kuro 1 and Kai 2 have addressed the whole issue with calvard and immigration thing and the underworld. Kuro 2 and Kai should have been one game. Calvard arc needed to be 3 games not 4. There is set up though for why the people want the “dawn”
>>553280168>Lmao the stigmaNot a thing in sc.
>>553280346squish
>>553280227Sorry but I don't intend to stop thinking about how things could be better than they are.
>>553278295Reading your post made me realize Joshua's adoption is sort of ripped off from The Legend of Heroes IV, lol.
>>553279907It's incredible how retarded you are. Who was it that fed information to Jewmann? Why would Joshua possibly ruin his one chance to free himself or Weissmann's control? A plan that Cassius planted the seed for, mind you.It Joshua really could not trust Estelle he never would have joined back. It is that fucking simple. The speeches he gives to Weissmann and Loewe are literally the consequence of his love and trust in Estelle completely changing him as a person. Again, you are a major midwit.
>>553282049Yes it fucking is
>>553281589If Kai 2 introduces nuance to the immigration thing.. It would be way too fucking late and strain credulity, don't you think?
>>553282327>Estelle would ruin his one chance for sure.>A plan that Cassius planted the seed for mind you. Yes I'm aware Cassius also sucks. >If Joshua really could not trust estelleHe couldn't and so didn't tell her anything. Adding rediculous conditionals on top of that is cope. >The speeches he gives to saltzmann Are the consequences of his hypocrisy magically working out great because of the shoujo writing. By any narrative metric Joshua shouldnt have had his plan work out because his character need is entirely based around learning to open up to someone else when the entire plan depended upon and was executed in defiance of that need. You may as well have Pinocchio win by lying until his nose cuts out his opponents brain like in itchy and scratchy. >>553282770There's almost no explanation given for what the fuck wiessmann or Kevin are doing even to support their plan let alone wiessmanns ability to control Joshua. >>553282303It's a loh3 fangame deep down but things like the romance where taken from 5 so why not 4 for Joshua.
>>553279528you'll be able to completely strip her naked once she is released btw
>>5532600485 years and we're STILL waiting for an actual Kuro 2. The Kuro 2 we got was more like Kuro 1.2 and Horizon is Kuro 1.8.
>>553260048haha... we still had hope then....
>tetracyclic tower>tetra = 5 floors>cyclic = circle layout
>>553283064You clearly live in a disconnected reality if you think Estelle would ruin Joshua's plan, and not the reality that Jewmann was literally mind controlling him.You again have no counter for Joshua joining back. I don't know why you have this much sand in your pussy over it, and frankly I do not care. You've exposed how much of a midwit you are, and you will surely do so again without needing my input.
Next arc will feature Cedric as MC set in the Free Cities. Shirley will die for his character development.
>>553284213tetra means 4
>>553283064>It's a loh3 fangame deep down but things like the romance where taken from 5 so why not 4 for Joshua.It's pretty much a watered-down White Witch + a Laputa rip-off. Honestly, playing these games made me retroactively less impressed with FC/SC, seeing just how much they crib from Gagharv. Like, sure, the particulars of the execution are different, but they take so many ideas and remix them. That's not to say Kiseki is just a Gagharv retread, but it owes a massive debt to it and it didn't come out of nowhere. FC/SC especially feel extremely Gagharv-y and would have never existed if it weren't for it.But do keep your posts going, Anon. Falcom exploits the fact that everyone thinks Kiseki is deeper and better written than the games really are for real. They also exploit the fact that 95% of their current fanbase has not played Gagharv.
>>553281351The worst thing Heiyue has done is accidentally allow the people they are beholden to protect to die by trying to bring Taikun back. Again, they have a code and it seems infighting is either gonna wipe it out completely or set the stage for Fufuman to do something finally. As for the race thing, I again do not know what you people want. You want critical race theory or some fucking culture clash and yet the reality is every single Trails cast features mostly white heroes with one or more minorities but the major difference is that in Calvard we finally hear "diversity is our strength" via Sheena Dirke and clearly seeing that for like 10 fucking games did not peeve you as much as hearing it did.
>>553284753Man, don't try and gush over White Witch, you fucking poser. That game is boring as hell. At least FC feels like it has something going for most than 5 hours of playtime. You waste hours of time in White Witch doing boring shit like asking strangers for ingredients for a cooking contest and talking to some random-ass old lady living in a swamp to replace some equally random-ass bard's guitar string. There are a whopping TWO dungeons in the entire game.
>>553284753josep no one cares about your contrarian ramblings
>>553285275>You want critical race theory CRT is what we get lmao
All this shit is written by random outsourced writers. Falcom cares less than you do.
>Grok produces sexualized photos of women and minors for usersSounds the Bracers Guild needs to take down Musk!
>>553285275>accidentallyYou're taking the piss, right? They set them u pto die by Almata, they are just as responsible.
Bestelle's vaginal musk...
I just heard Lloyd scream TAIGA CHARGE in the steam version. I think my balls redropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqJgZzv5Vw
>>553286727Tiocute!
>>553285330Sounds like you're a fucking dumbass who played the shitty PSP version in Engrish. White Witch is a really plain game; its strength lies in its direction and presentation, along with the gentle, poetry-filled worldview and the moving story. It's a humble tale that celebrates human courage and kindness, one that works perfectly well without relying heavily on typical fantasy tropes or cheesy melodrama. The game excels in text and compositional quality, and that's the reason it's still acclaimed in Japan as one of Falcom's greatest masterpieces. The dialogue is concise, polished, natural, and free-flowing, qualities that were mostly lost when Kiseki took over. From that point on, the dialogue was riddled with exposition and characters driving hackneyed plots.>>553285471Literally who?
>>553287127>its strength lies in its direction and presentation, along with the gentle, poetry-filled worldview and the moving story.Oh god, shut the fuck up please.
>>553287295>>553287295>>553287295>>553287295>>553287295
>>553287230kek, he do be romanticizing sloppa.
>>553286132AI did nothing wrong. Musk should be prosecuted for putting that in his social media platform. Faggot will get AI restricted to personal ID with his retarded handling of it.
>>553287407So does Kondo, who joined Falcom because of it.
>>553287230Fuck off Beer Chozo
>>553286246I am not joking. Yes they worked with Almata but the plan never involved killing so much as hurting. Gien says that.
>>553241768>Daybreak 1 actually had lore mistakes and story errorsname 10
Towifey on the tenth page!