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Smooching the Swamp Witch edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

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>Thread Question
Should companions be kissable?
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>TQ
I do like kisses, so why not
Not mandatory though
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>>553460915
>Should companions be kissable?
Only by NPCs, preferably of the dark-skinned persuasion
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>Should companions be kissable?
Yes
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>>553460915
>Thread Question
Kill yourself
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>>553460915
>TQ
No
t. Yrliet
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>dlc gives you TWO sexy red goat sisters
>can end up marrying both
Will Owlcat ever come close to this level of kino agaon?
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>>553461078
based saskiachad
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>>553461236
Got that DLC pretty cheap during the winter sale, only 0,84€
Now I just need to play Kingmaker properly, last time I quit after ~20 hours
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>>553461078
I don't get it, there is no cock so what goes where?
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>>553460915
I like that keeping Morrigan's shitty ring on the entire game right actually pays off. It has its own ending slide and has a few unique dialogues involving it in Witch Hunt.
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>>553461261
putting the dragon in dragon age
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>>553461236
No. You will get pansexual nonsexual nontouchin gay elf romances and gay male romances only. Sorry but the polls actually showed those are the majority of players.
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>>553461559
she fucks dwarf guys
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>>553460915
they should be killable
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>>553461078
Is this witcher or dragon age? Is this Leliana? Why is she so fucking STACKED?
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>>553461820
that's a lot of questions
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>>553461373
>there is no cock
how do you know
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>>553462342
women don't have cocks
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Need more blue xeno wives
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>>553462642
>picrel
I can't bring myself to be mean to her, even if my character is supposed to be a sith warrior. same goes for companions in general (unless their massive dicks). I feel bad when I make the digital npc sad
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>>553462575
that's just not true
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>>553461820
Very good questions
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>>553462575
All those Mass Effect SFMs say otherwise. Liara in particular seems to be a prolific rapist.
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Sigbjorn about to bring the Tempest, also has an item that does pushback for Str attacks > 3, incoming kino
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here's the Convictions/Alignments for Dark Heresy. i dont know if it has already been posted, seems like the only datamine stuff that had been posted already was companion-related

Press material on the alignments until this point only referred to a "Puritan - Radical" spectrum, and I recall someone expressing concern that it wouldn't be any more nuanced than that. Thankfully, its not that simple and doesnt treat "i will work with xenos" and "i will use the chaos-tainted crystal ball" as the same thing.

I presume "torian" is referring to Thorians, as the files visible in ToyBox have featured misspellings in the past. I could be wrong, though.
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>>553463136
>incoming kino
oh I didn't notice his base str was only 2 on those other two, not quite as kino as expected
I'm looking forward to Bolverk slaughtering with a streak of Cull the Weak's though.
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>>553463320
what you can't be a heretical inquisitor ?
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>>553463323
if your health bar is too low
your units do suboptimal damage
same is true for the enemy too
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>>553460915
it's such a crime that morrigan isn't a dyke. hopefully if origins ever gets remade they make her bisexual
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>>553463564
i imagine what you are thinking of would fall under "xanthite"
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The fact that we are constantly beset by ambushes and treachery makes it feel even better to play Bolverk as a raging asshole

>>553463692
Yep, learned that in the very beginning of BS1. The combat mechanics are cool in general, it's a simple system at its base, but has a lot of flexibility.
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Should elves be isolationist forest people or humans with long ears?
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>>553463320
Can a lorefag give a qrd on what each school of thought means
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>>553463852
what game is this
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>>553464035
ff14 (modded)
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>>553463852
the former potentially makes them exotic
the latter is just dressing for fetishes
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>>553464028
>Xenophilia
probably means Xeno Hybris, a radical ideology that supports learning from aliens and utilizing alien technology to help humanity.
>Xanthite
Named after one of the founders of the Inquisition, Zaranchek Xanthus. "Fight Chaos with Chaos". Basically damn yourself to save humanity. Obviously extremely radical.
>Monodominant
Pretty basic extreme puritan faction. Lead lynch mobs, absolutely refuse to cavort with aliens, heretics, mutants, jaywalkers etc.
>Torian
probably Thorian, I assume it's meant to be the "puritan good" option. Lorewise they believe the Emperor will be reborn in a super cool dude somewhere and work towards that resurrection. Named after Sebastian Thor, a very important saint who restored the Imperium from Goge Vandire although the ideology itself is older than that event.
It's a bit of a weird pick and I'm not expecting Thorians to be depicted accurately if that's what they end up calling it.
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Blue aliens will never love you
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How is radical vs puritan calculated? If an inqusitor is willing to work with xenos but they are puritan as fuck regarding everything else are they considered radical just for the xenos or "puritan with an exception".
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>>553460915
Morrigan and Leliana should've kissed.
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>we could've gotten a fat assed evil demon gf
>taash actually looked fuckable
Sad seeing what happened to Dragon Age. Worst part is nobody will learn from this. The same people that push for games like Veilguard are still in the industry, namely a lot of them are in CDPR now.
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>and then my dollies kissed!
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>>553464028
monodominant is stereotypical hardcore bombastic inquisitor, like ryhekuss (picrel) or Tyrus from the old Inquisitor tabletop game.

Thorians believe the emperor acts through people to the extent that a Divine Avatar can manifest through whihc the emperor can be reborn.

xenophilia is "i will work with aliens"

xanthite is "i will use the warp/chaos stuff to fight it"

>>553464902
yeah i was puzzled by Thorian being one of teh main alignments as well, I don't know how often THorian dialogue options could honestly be implemented given that its a pretty specific belief. unless its just your character going "BY THE WAY I THINK COULD [pretty okay dude] BE THE EMPEROR" at any opportunity. But like you say, they might play fast and loose with it and dilute it into "nice puritan"

>>553465157
depends on who's judging them. at the end of the day "puritan" and "radical" are broad labels inquisitors throw at each other like grenades
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>>553465157
95% of puritans are flexible in some way. Most end up sliding into radicalism to be more effective. The last 5% are insane monsters.
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>>553465275
I wish I lived in the timeline where they used these designs and the original story they had planned for Veilguard.
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>>553465332
This but unironically
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>>553465275
>my gf called Ishmael
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>>553463812
>>553465210
Why are you like this
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>>553465543
Everyone does
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>>553465275
I think they will learn. It's just very slow became game development is very very long now. Probably games entering development today will be better. Problem is we won't see them for another 5-6 years.
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>>553463812
>it's such a crime that morrigan isn't a dyke
she is though
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>>553466698
>boomers used to fap to that
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I like taking my xenos out for walks to scare the local citizenry
>it was fun to cuck lord Sauerback
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>>553466698
my friend had a bug where his female warden impregnated Morrigan. It was very funny
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>>553467207
"bug"
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>>553467254
He didn't mod it, it was some old bug iirc
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>>553467068
Dark Heresy/Rogue Trader could have been the best 40K games ever made if you could have a fully party of five different aliens, which causes everyone you talk with to be immediately untrusting and scared of you.
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>>553463082
Respect the blue cock, anon.
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>>553467570
imagine if they kissed :3
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>>553467810
>w...where?
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Why does Solasta have a pronoun selection if they just default to they/them?
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>>553468313
>BIMBO
>Batarians
>Inseminate
>My
>Bitchy
>Ovaries
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FUCK YOU.
*unkisses all of your dollies*
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>entire character is based around slut shaming her sister
>still dresses to show cleavage
what did she mean by this?
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>>553468313
giwtwm
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>>553468323
Solasta is an odd one. They make a big show of pronouns during release but it's not ever referenced. Your party is always referred to as a group and in traveling entries the individual character is always referred to as they/them despite the game having calls for it. It's also not in your character sheet.

So what's the point?
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>>553469113
Illusion of choice is far too prevalent in "role playing games".
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>>553467016
Still looks better than bg3 sex scenes.
And owlcat sex scenes are still nonexistant.
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>>553460915
fallout lore bros, how is bethesda screwing up the established lore?
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>>553468995
It subtly convey that she is a blood sucking vampire.
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>>553470587
Fuck off to fallout general
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>>553470587
Same way they do with TES, by twisting and molding everything to suit their momentary needs and to create memetic 'iconic' things. TV is just more about that than vidya, so it's all marketing.
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>work on my colony projects
>Ryzza is now my BFF
I've just started chapter 4 and am going through my companion quests
there was no indication I maxed out rep with them
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>>553460915
The graphics of these old bioware games didn't age well
They're at an awkward place between the 2d sprites of BG2, leaving everything to the imagination, and the realism of the 2020s when models are no longer in the uncanny valley
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>>553470587
They killed New Vegas, Todd's ultimate revenge
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>>553471408
>Dragon Age
>Old Bioware game
DAO didn't come out that long ago, you can't call it an old game.
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>>553471831
Anon... 9/11 was 37 years ago...
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>>553469113
That's because the game has no calls for gender or pronouns. This tells me that the selection was probably a last minute thing. The sequel may have it though.
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Smoochable dollies are the best
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>>553471831
no its old
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>>553472035
Smoochable dollies are boring. I prefer kissable critters.
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>>553472793
>using an euphemism for what is just furryshit
I know what you are
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>>553472891
>this again
You can't be banned for stalking redditors?
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>>553472891
Tell me. Why does it have to be equal? Why couldn't Owlcat do I don't know 3 male and 2 female romances? Or the reverse? or two bisexual, 4 straight, 1 lesbian? I don't get this parity thing.
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>>553473254
>I don't get this parity thing.
non-parity leads to schizo melties which leads to crying about "double standards" and "humiliation rituals" which leads to psychosis
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>>553473387
Who gives a fuck? All devs have to do is just ignore it. Literally everything they are so terrified of doing or not doing can be fixed by ignoring it. Oh there's too many homosexual men? Ignore it. too many lesbians? ignore it. too much tits? ignore it. The comments will always go away. The more based devs do it right. they just don't acknowledge it.
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>>553473254
DAI gave female elves like 8 options while straight men got 2 options. They still complain about it to this day ahhehehehe
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>>553464902
Does that mean what Heinrix was doing with the daemon computer at Kiava Gamma was Xantithe?
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What build should i go for on the chinky looking crime lord? The bonuses seem broadly useful and the pic doesnt seem intended for any particular class
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>>553474082
It also exposed their blatant hypocrisy. Female characters especially elves had the lion's share of romance content including having two weddings in the DLC with Sera and Cullen. But they were STILL assblasted because they couldn't slam clams with the one straight woman in the game. It's never about equality, they want to be exclusively catered to.
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>>553474729
Crime lord was made for Operative but Operative sucks.
But Rogue Trader is so easy that even its worst class can blow through the game without trouble.
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Just reached act 3 in Rogue trader. Please tell me this isn't like the Abyss from wotr where you're suddenly stuck in a giant area running back and forth constantly
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>>553474884
Operative would be great if you couldn’t kill whole maps in one turn and enemies did more damage. Operative armor stacking is legit cool but totally pointless.
Or just buff snipers again and do it properly this time.
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>>553468995
best girl
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>>553474829
You realize its a loud minority crying for your straight waifus right? They also cry to make straight men bi.

The only reason female elves got so many options was because they added Cullen and Solas last second. They realized women would not like Blackwall or Bull and they were right.
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>>553475224
>Please tell me this isn't like the Abyss from wotr
It's not.
Alushinyrra is actually good.
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>>553474729
I did soldier/AM. Basic but its fun
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>>553475759
Any particular focus? Soldier was also what i thought fit best but they can do so much different shit
Her vibe really doesnt fit like the usual heavy bolter build for example i feel
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>>553472891
Monster girls are hot faget
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>>553476051
I did non-heavy burst fire guns and shotguns. Its fun to run around with them
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>>553475224
It's pretty short and linear
Personally like it though, but I also like Alushinyrra a lot more
I suppose I enjoy these sort of "breaks" in these longer games
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>>553474729
Dual Plasma pistol solider with Forge World int critical scaling since it also increases the AoE damage.
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>>553476375
Shotguns build probably be cool yeah
Thanks
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>>553476632
Least inbred navigator
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>>553476541
Dual plasma would also be super neat
Kinda worried about how high you can actually get intelligence though
Seems like just using the skill to substitute demolition for int aoe damage would be easier
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>>553472891
>top 1% commenter
You have to be mentally ill for that. Evidently.
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>>553474707
Similar ideological principle, but a lot of inquisitors do that kind of thing without actually being xanthites. xanthites embrace it, usually inquisitors are just "bro I'm just built different I can handle it" or "I need to kill my friend and torture his soul forever by turning him into a daemonhost THERE'S NO OTHER WAY"
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>>553477532
So Cassia is also afraid of you?
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>>553477385
>he's not top 1% in anything
success breeds jealousy
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>>553477976
Her fishiousness outranks her womaninity.
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>>553460915
>Should companions be kissable?
No. You should kill yourself
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>>553475224
Sort of but it's much smaller and shorter. You don't really get to have free rein and a fuckton of quests to do, you'll always have a pretty clear objective.
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>>553460915
>Should companions be kissable?
Yes, but only in a non-sexual way
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>>553461559
Did they do it? Surely iorveth didn't just simp for her for no reason?
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>>553478020
I’m 1% in pulling my cock
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>>553479090
I guess so. A friend of mine said he got frenched by one of his wife's friends and she said it wasn't cheating cause it was a friendly greeting kiss. Stuff like that right?
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>>553479151
>incelverth
>having sex
lole
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>>553477545
Man, I ALWAYS confuse Xanthites for Phaenonites. I don't know why
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>>553463852
They should be dead
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>>553461373
Friction
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>>553479356
>friendly greeting kiss
yes, that is normal in Europe
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>>553463136
The only good poster itg
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>>553479592
Europe isn't real.
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>>553479090
eskimo kisses
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I want to eat my companion’s shit
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>>553465543
>Veilguard
Dreadwolf
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>>553475224
It is, and it's also a thousand times worse. Luckily it's shorter, so brace yourself
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>gave Cassia an eagle companion
>They randomly pop up in one of the lower levels
I wonder if it is a bug or of cassia sends out her eagle companion to spy on other decks
You can send your companion out to find stuff and shoot on people too
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Why isn’t Sergey Eybog making music for Owlcat anymore? I know he’s still at the studio, but I really miss his compositions!
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>>553480939
>pic
Why are SHIT Lords like that? Fucking Death Guard or World Eaters have more nuance to them
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Which archetype actually uses arc rifles well? Soldier only really gets your run and gun but I believe none of their other abilities work.
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>>553480939
blud thinks he's a necron
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>>553480225
Fucking bullshit that this isn’t just a common talent. Owlcat only caring about companion origins is a goddamn travesty.
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so I just wait here for the web to despawn
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>>553482373
oh it did literally despawn right now
nice
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>>553482373
>Valerie tries to use Combat Maneuver: Brapple
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Gonna replay kingmaker again and finally try out octavias romance. Already played fighter and sorcerer, what other classes make for a fun mc?
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Wouldn’t it be funny if the only way to recruit the Night Lord companion was to not follow the Xantithe chaos path
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>>553482763
It would unironically be great, not just for the nightlord but for all factions to have certain companions that they are locked out from
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>>553472891
https://www.reddit.com/user/pasqals_toaster/search/?q=Female&type=comments&cId=32fab7d5-da4c-4711-a011-cc79881120b8&iId=d1688df8-4984-4e1b-8ed2-d5bb08d82b86
This redditor is reverse version of our elf incels, they seethe about female companions having more romance options and better quality romances than males
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>>553483376
But they have Jimmy and Marzipan. Isn’t that good enough?
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>still stalking redditors
go back
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>/crpgg/ stalks redditors now
sisters, we're utterly cooked
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This may be surprising, but I don't actually care what redditors think or say. If I did, I would be there.
Astonishing, I know.

The only time I care about what someone said, is when it's a crpg developer talking about their work. I don't care about their personal lives, and I also don't care about what redditors or twitters say otherwise.
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>>553472891
>the boring as fuck romance options in Owlcat games are considered "unique and experimental" to retarded fucking redditors
Grim.
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>>553483878
What's next? Are you gonna tell us that you don't care about VA's political opinions?
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Uh, sirs, this is a /crpgg/, not /rg/
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>>553484201
>unique and experimental romances
such as? Hard mode: no beasties
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>>553484201
The sad part is Owlkek will listen to their input. The terminal reddit schizo top 1% of posters who have a more insane obsession with the game and waifus/husbando than any autist here
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Found a few mods that allow me to chnage models of my ships to aeldari / drukhari, will be using redress and toybox to make homebrew Ynnari cast. Any ideas on their looks? Should I try to make them a mix of exodite with aeldari / drukhari armour or go with their original looks? Incubus helmet looks kinda like the Visarch so he can be the MC I guess.
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I can't believe reddit user Abelard's_ Whittle_Toesies hates my waifus. I am being oppressed.
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I fucking love Reddit!!!
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>>553483662
She's a tumblrtatd with victim complex. Male romances deathmog all the female ones in terms of writing quality and content
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>>553481930
>Companion origins
>Navy
Are you retarded?
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>>553483878
this is the logical consequence of giving owlbabs an inch, they'll take a mile
we need a zero tolerance policy for reddit/discord/twitter shit
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>>553484795
Abelard is a thing
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>>553466593
>I think they will learn
There is no capacity for learning in any of these people and you know that.
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>>553485178
Yes, but also open for you.
Like, if this was for a unique companion origin, I'd understand being angry.
But you can make a superior version of Abelard if you want and bench him, or made a different navy build.
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>>553485170
Why?
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I am so glad I took the xenos with me, I should have also brought Cassia
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>>553485468
cause what literalwho69 said on reddit/discord/twitter is not crpg and does not spark crpg discussion the way talking about yrliet's autism does
hope this helps
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>>553485170
>reddit/discord/twitter
It all comes from the same waifufag, same with the VA photos
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>>553463320
>I presume "torian" is referring to Thorians
This is certainly correct, Russian doesn't pronounce "th"
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>>553482373
Based Valerie and her fat 19 CON ass
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Yeliet and Pasqal have the only good, totally unique origins. Imagine how kino a fortress world soldier with Pasqal's plasma shit would be.
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>>553463320
Looks like
>Nice Radical
>Unpleasant Radical
>Unpleasant Puritan
>Nice Puritan
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>>553482727
Slayer is pretty fun if you like big unga bunga numbers.
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the so called savior or WRPGs, everyone
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>>553486031
Yrliet's is ass cause you kill before she ever takes that shot.
Cold trader would be amazing for you officer, but in the end the only thing she does better is being a skillbot, support and damage combined but you can easily excel at oen of these over her (you usually do 2 out of 3 really well)
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Which crpgs actually made you pause about a moral question instead of just going I pick the [Good]/[Evil] option because I'm good/evil
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>>553486338
damn right. Swen "Scalie" Vincke is a hero in this house
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you should have been able to be an elf rogue trader
no I do not care about the lore
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>>553482727
Vanilla game? If you go lawful you can go Hospitaler Paladin for suppor tand the occasional evil smiting or Slayer (LG Deliverer works, but Spawn Slayer or normal are also fine).
Melee bard is also a fun proposition

With Call of Wild, you can do tons of silly shit, like Kinetic whip kineticist, Summoner, Psionics etc
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>>553486437
Kingmaker
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>>553486660
When? name an example
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>>553486514
You could make it work by having you assume the identity of the true heir while they were enroute, to infiltrate
Mon-keigh are simple creatures and will never suspect
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>>553463852
elf women owe me milk
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>start up Kingmaker for the first time in ages
>all the premade characters have a little backstory
Soul
Why did Owlcat stop doing that?
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>>553486437
killing loghain or not in DAO, extinguishing the candles or not in DOS2, recruiting ian in Fallout 1
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>>553486692
It’s been a couple of years or more, but I was playing Lawful Evil and I was dealing with some peasants chopping down a tree who found some treasure
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>>553486437
Taking the furry child in Pillars 1
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>>553486437
Maneha's quest climax in PoE1
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>>553487112
Sacrificing it in PoE I, transferring saves to PoE II and still having the child pop up in my cabin absolutely killed my immersion and made me drop the game.
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>>553487283
no baby killing for you
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>>553487483
It’s like spitting in my face!
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>>553486338
Swen featuring his silly fetish in the game is fine because the game is otherwise good.

Corinne Busche featuring his silly fetish in the game is not fine, because the game is not otherwise good.

That is the fundamental difference.

However, there is a second key difference as well. Swen's silly fetish is going to be contained within an optional sec scene. There will be lizard characters, and they will have a romance anda s ex scene, but guess who is going to see these scene? only the people who pursue that lizard companion. Meanwhile, Corinne Busche has Taash's companion questline deal with tranny politics, and everyone who does the companion questline at all has to sit at the table and listen to Taash talk about this topic, and then the companion group afterwards admonish each other regarding how they each use nonbinary language and "barve" with each other about it. And yes, the companion is integral to the plot so cannot just be skipped since she is a dragonslayer. Swen's style is completely optional and will only be seen by people who pass several "Do you want lizard cock?" confirmations, while Corinne Busche's style is soap boxing about real word politics and is not part of an optional questline, it IS the companion's questline.

It's the same with the bear in bg3. You have to confirm multiple times you want to have sex with the guy, and even when you do, when you go to have sex with him, he's in his human form and you have to ask if he can change into a bear. So it's locked behind several confirmations, and you have to instigate it. So Swen's wacky sex stuff is exactly what it should be: player option.
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Summoning froggy to save this general
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>>553487965
Go fuck yourself
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>>553486031
Cassia gets an entire class only she has access to, I would say she's the true winner on unique gameplay options.
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>>553487875
>Corinne Busche
>his
uhhhhhh that's kinda problematic
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>>553488057
Not recruiting her is even better
That way you get an actually customizable navigator
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>>553486437
whether i should kill the child or not in tyranny
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replaying risen and found out the devs revisited the game in ~2023 to patch it and make the combat even worse
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Why have we yet to get a WHFB CRPG? It would be awesome, the setting is perfect for it. It's baffling to me that instead all we have is the best strategy game ever and the best action combat game ever. Surely some sterling developer sees the incredible opportunity in front of them and will deliver any day, right?
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>>553484596
Visarch ready! Now for feats and balancing.
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Why did they keep the guard origin ability as once per combat. They were smart enough to get rid of that shit for commissar.
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>>553488780
morathi sexo
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We love Taash
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>>553486831
>recruiting ian
how is that a moral question?
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>>553486437
committing to true aeon
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>>553472891
this is 100% froggy,right?
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>>553489871
The villagers and Ian himself mention the only reason the raiders haven't overrun the village is because he's protecting them. If you take him with you the village is left essentially defenseless from future threats, even if you do kill all the raiders. I have to say in retrospect it makes total sense Fallout was written and created partially by a faggot, only a raging homosexual would create a character like Tandi and not let the PC fuck her.
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The only way we're getting a non cucked female Eldar romance is if Owlcat makes a game where the mc is an Eldar. Then games workshop would be all for it and even support non cucked male eldar x female human romances, to stick it to their fans.
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fuuuck I forgot about the QnA. I had an important question.
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>>553490947
We don't care about your schizobabble anymore, now it's about femcels crying the admech companion is female
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Why is Reddit simping for Epione
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>>553490947
>where the mc is an Eldar
That defeats the purpose
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>reddit again
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>>553491280
Because she's cute
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Imagine Owlkek made a 40K game where you could play as multiple races, being a character in a Rogue Trader or Inqusitor's retinue or some Imperium Eldar Tau whatever coallition against Chaos. And they had BG2 Race & Sex preferences. And All of the Fem Human companions had Human Male Eldar Male Tau Male, but all of the fem Eldar had just Eldar male under preferences.
How much mindbreak would that cause.
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>>553491280
>why is cuck central simping for le black scientist
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Imagine Owlcat made a game where you could do sick ollies as a space elf
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I can't do it bros. They're so fucking ugly it's unreal.
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>>553491949
>Coalition against Chaos by the Imperium
In the most recent attempt by the Eldar to destroy Slaanesh they were stopped by a band of Deathwatch Space Marines, and when told what they were doing, the Captain said he would rather see the galaxy fall to Chaos then spare the life of a xenos.
>Eldar
See above, it's impossible for the Eldar to work with the Imperium in any meaningful capacity.
>T'au
The T'au are barely even starting to become aware of Chaos, only their ruling caste is aware of what it is and they want to keep it hidden from the rest of their people, they are not going to start an alliance to fight it because doing so would acknowledge that it exists in the first place. Also the Imperium would, again, wants all xenos dead just as badly as they want Chaos gone.

I really feel like a lot of you guys underestimate just how much xenos are hated by the Imperium because your only exposure to the setting is through Rogue Trader. Independent agents like Inquisitors and Rogue Traders might get away with employing the services of a xeno or two (and even then it better be done quietly and clandestinely), but the Imperium at large will NEVER make an alliance with xenos, no matter what the goal.
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Why does owlcat keep adding niggers to their games again?
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>>553493086
to trigger you
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>>553493047
Deathwatch are explicitly anti-xenos killing machines, that's their sole role, Eldar have worked with Imperium before, temporary alliances with certain worlds or chapters or inqusitors or Bobby
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>>553493086
the fags on reddit would go mental if there wasn't at least one token black companion. go look at the shit they give larian for dropping the ball with Wyll.
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>>553491280
Because those retards have been crying for a black girl romance. If Owlcat listens to those retards and gives her a romance instead of Aspyce, Admech or blank girl, then Owlcat is retarded. Would instantly be one of the most unpopular romances.
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>>553493047
>Deathwatch
Yeah no shit
They're Deathwatch
They're fanatically anti-xenos
Regular imperial forces work with the Eldar routinely
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>>553493047
>but the Imperium at large will NEVER make an alliance with xenos
One word from the Emperah and the Imperium is in "Wir schaffen das" mode
Let's not talk about how this whole kill all the xenos thing was his idea
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>>553487875
People don't fundamentally understand the Taash situation. The problem with her was that Busche (or whoever he is) DIDN'T inculde the fetish. Taash is so shitty because she is lame container for weirdo gender langauge push.

She should have had
>A less ugly face with better, more fitting horns
>Drop the gender identity wanking and replace it with her being insanely horny and dominant all the time, like in that kabedon scene
>Bigger ass, tits and cock
>Sex scene(s) animated by Nyl2
And presto, you would've had instant classic.
Taash x human femboy Rook could've been as big as Sovellan x Solas, but shitty sociopolitical agenda ruined it all
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>>553493047
That's a lot of words for a filthy secondary
>the Imperium at large
No such thing
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Dude i'm a fucking duergar i don't care, i'll abduct and enslave you.
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>>553491280
Epione is Nenio 40k, of course they like her
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>>553493047
Please watch less meme video essays
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>>553493618
>hot, passing tranny
I'd suspect Bioware didn't want to risk more suicides
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>>553493828
Nenio is pure 4chan
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Why do 4chan autists believe crpgs should cater to them even though they're a minority within a minority within a minority within a minority therefore worthless in the eyes of the devs
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>>553494413
I just want a crpg that gives me an exotic jungle fever waifu
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>>553494413
>4chan autists
you said why
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For those who played it, how's dark heresy so far?
How's the investigation minigame
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>>553490947
No that's boring. It needs to cross some boundary, be forbidden somehow, with initial hostility giving way to affection. If you played a male eldar only the human female romance would be interesting
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>>553494952
Fun and fun. Investigation is a bit too easy though
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I just started Planescape Torment.
is this one of those games where you do side quests to prepare for the next main quest, or do main quests to build power to do all those side quests you didn't get to before?
should I even bother? I'm trying to become a Wizard; should I worry about gaining too many fighter levels?
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>>553495140
fun is a buzzword used by those who can't explain why a game is good
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I was having a good day and then I remembered the cuntboy marazhi artist extists.
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>>553494952
Game is great. Combat is far more interesting, with manipulating the turn order of enemies while in combat
Investigation is basically talking to everybody and finding physical clues.
As you do, points of interest start appearing in the detective notebook, as well various hypotheses explaining them, all depending on what clues you've found. They are all laid out like nodes on a pin board
As you investigate more, some hypotheses will be eliminated, sometimes leaving only one for a specific node, sometimes not.
You can "accept" a hypothesis tentatively and it will generate a link to another node that provides more insight. If it leads to more contradictions you can withdraw it
Eventually you get everything more or less figured out and you can assemble your report
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its just robes settle down guys geez
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>>553495225
I think do the side quests first, or as they come anyhow
>I'm trying to become a Wizard; should I worry about gaining too many fighter levels?
From memory I don't think it works that way. I think when you switch classes you keep your overall level
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>>553495707
Just to clarify, you can switch class by talking to a suitable trainer in the city
You're still the Nameless One with the same stats and level, but now you're a wizard or a thief
Combat and magic are fairly simple compared to BG
Remember, Wis is the best stat by far, followed by Int and Cha
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>>553494413
The CRPG that did everything I wanted would sell billions of copies. I am an unappreciated visionary, the herald of a brighter world. The path I see is paved with gold.
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>>553495140
>Investigation is a bit too easy
I know what you mean. It's like collecting pieces of data and poking them until they make sense
I wonder how you could make it more interesting
Maybe you could have other, unrelated, investigations, like sidequests eg finding a missing dog for a little kid. And that leads you into new info for the main case
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>>553496049
no we're not going to include a taash sized futa romance because you watch too much porn
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>>553495956
that's good. I set my starting stats to 18 int, 16 wis, 14 cha, and 9 in the rest of them.
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>>553461078
My kiss-shy wife Wenduag.
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>>553493618
I feel like this would cause an even bigger drama internally and have actual people in the industry getting mad
>>553494413
It's not like it has any other audience, tumblr crowd that Bioware got doesn't buy games and don't play them and after they started to shame and move away from their core audience their games imploded.
Larian struck gold by sheer luck and 90% of their audience are guys that wanna smooch Karlack,Lae'zel and Shadowheart.
Owlcat currently have a split with old bioware fans that are really loud but stat show people clearly yearn for playing with dollies overwhelmingly.
Obsidians PoE2 that nobody wanna play because there is no romance thanks to Sawyer and he clearly knows it after seeing how much people love BG3
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>>553496343
Looks pretty good. Keep pumping that Wis
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>>553496395
kill yourself
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>>553496395
Sawyer was 110% right here btw.
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>>553496352
I romanced wenduag on my aeon playhthrough. she got cucked by the will of the universe
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>>553496557
How can he judge harem anime without having watched a single one
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>>553496352
>Spurd O. Sparde
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>>553496352
She's so cute...
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>>553496648
>how can you say you don't like shit if you've never eaten any
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>>553496790
>food analogy
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>>553496686
I always go for lore accurate OCs.
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I'm going to guess that when you want to romance Marazhai you'll have to go along with his whims and let him go postal in the lower decks?
>He's not the first or last companion to kill people in my crew
>Now that I think about it RT has some very dangerous friends
>RT: my buddies are cool, we're all on a trip of self discovery and betterment, ignore the guy who literally has to torture to survive, the blood cult member, the unstable witch and the trigger happy nun
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How good is a kitsune dex monk that focus on pounce in WOTR?
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>>553497248
Yes, you also kill your poors with him
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>>553497248
Lives of lower decker scum are irrelevant, they can be replaced on virtually any world you visit, hundreds or even thousands can die every time you travel through the warp, the valued members of your retinue killing them means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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>>553496250
>we're not going to include a taash sized futa romance
give me one good reason why not
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I will never get marazahi and camellia romancers. they aren't fixable bro
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>>553496395
>people clearly yearn for playing with dollies overwhelmingly.
man I hate modern persona so much
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>>553497517
Killing them deliberately is different than them dying in industrial accidents.
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>>553497895
They aren't meant to be
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>>553497895
I imagine iconoclast RT stuffs Marzipan inside a broom closet during warp travel
Marazhai is a little shit and while I try not to kill him I'll still make him suffer as much as I can
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>>553498175
Iconoclast RT kills the retarded, incompetent deldar.
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>>553498175
That's what I did. I wasn't going to allow him to run around upsetting people when we're underway and maybe it'll do him good to be stuck in the time-out box
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>>553498175
when I played iconoclast mazipan was the only companion i didn't recruit
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>>553497895
Women like marzipan because he’s legitimately an evil little shit
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>553498175
A true Icono would personally kill Marazhai in the arena, hoping to make Yrliet wet (doesn't work)
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>>553497895
>>553498414
whenever Maraz gets brought up I think of this
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>>553498276
iconoclast is two alignments in a trench coat, one that's about not being retarded and the other that's about being as retarded as possible.
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>>553498414
I thought women liked heinrix
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>>553498516
I never liked that guy
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>>553498479
yes thats him
>>553498516
they like both
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>>553498447
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>>553498479
haha girl smut is so dumb, guys would never be attracted to this kind of stuff
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>>553498836
Cassa looks different...
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>>553498516
This may shock you but there are individual women with different opinions
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>>553498516
I remember seeing like 73% of women cucked Heinrix when they met Marazhai
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NWN2 Enhanced Edition any good, or should I just steal the original? Thinking about finally playing the fabled MoB.
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>>553498091
How? Just have a scribe put down the ones that are killed by Marazhai as having died to your offered industrial accident example and no one will notice or care.
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>>553499128
The true reason the imperium wants to destroy xenos
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>>553498479
as a guy it's much more fun to write this type of shit
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>>553498479
Whenever I see this image I think of the twilight for guys one
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Crpg where rumors start becoming reality and you can start rumors yourself to fight side quest bosses and to get better gear and the antagonists are a group of wackjob conspiracy theorist's who's theorys are starting to come true and also there's a death prophecy for the end of the world and you have to stop that
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>>553499445
>no one will notice or care.
The Emperor notices and cares.
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Really hoping keeping the strange rash has a payoff that isn't just an achievement.
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>>553499445
killing your crew is pretty antithetical to iconoclast tenants, and dogma isn't gonna be keen on going out of their way to kill lower deckers just to satisfy a xenos. you could always be a hypocrite i guess and say rules for thee but not for me
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>>553499760
The emperor never cared about that.
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>>553499928
tau don't look like that.
you will never get a blueberry gf
stop posting
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>>553499445
Why would an iconoclast do that? He's just got done improving working conditions down there and giving them medical supplies. He's not going to let some lunatic start killing them.
When Marazhai says
>I simply MUST kill someone or I shall go insane!
the iconoclast would see it as a teaching moment and lock Marazhai in a cabin with copy of the Uplifting Primer for reading material
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>>553499928
I hope we don't get a tau companion. Not because I don't like them, but because Owlcat would make her cuckold you.
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>>553465275
I really hope none of these artists find jobs.
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>>553499760
Based on living conditions alone the only citizens of the Imperium the Emperor cares about are the nobles.
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killing my crew with marzipan and he t-poses!!
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The Iconoclast would try to fix Marazhai, he would certainly not indulge what he sees as Marazhai's bad habits
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>>553499928
Why is the diplomat the one with the battle scars and missing eye?
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>>553499907
icono would kill mazipan like he said he promised he would avenge the countless innocents mazipan was raping and pillaging in act 2
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>>553499986
>>553500229
The Emperor cares for every subject equally, he's just temporarily incapacitated or he would put everything right.
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>>553500121
>Don't worry about Marazhai. I left the AC on and I have him free reign over what he can listen to while we warp, he could pick between uplifting short stories for young dogmatics or the latest hits of the emperor's personal choir
>The screaming coming out of the broom closet it just him trying to sing along
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>>553500397
>The Emperor cares for every subject equally
do 40sloppers really believe this?
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>>553500229
I think he has different stuff to worry about desu, it's not like he's a god
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>>553500121
If you are actually an Iconoclast why would you have Marazhai with you to begin with? It's the least sensible conviction path to take him on, even Dogmatic RTs have more compelling reasons to take him and keep him.
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>>553500449
this would actually maybe work on idira if she brefriended argenta, in her ending slide it says that she visited the ship's church from time to time and prayed and it helped a little bit
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>>553500520
You're right, on second thought no iconoclast would ever take him
I will rework my scenario to
>dogmatic trader decides to put the xeno in his place as a useful tame killer, and as part of his training program has him listen to sermons glorifying the emperor
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>>553500397
He has been quoted to not care about the lives he wastes outside of like the custodians though so I'm sure deck slaves aren't on his mind.
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You guys know you can play as no conviction
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>>553500897
alignments are cool though.
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>>553500819
He doesn't about wasting space marines or primarchs, or indeed any troops
But he cares about civilians. All of this is for the baseline humans.
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>>553500520
I didn't want Yrilet to feel lonely as the sole xenos on my ship
Now she has a buddy and they can talk about xenos stuff- like- food? I just realized none of the characters actually eat, like ever, they only occasionally drink
No wonder everyone is so thin
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>>553500397
But the caste divide was present during the time the Emperor was alive and conscious, too, in fact in many ways it was worse. So I don't see how you can make that argument. The Emperors view based on how the Imperium worked while he was alive seemed to be a "if you're useful and powerful, you are elevated and valued, if you're not you're just a disposable resource". He's not a Christ like figure whatsoever, with boundless love and compassion, he's a cold hearted pragmatist and rationalist through and through. Even the Space Marines he planned to betray and kill in the end, once they served their purpose.
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>>553500964
>you can smoke weed with idira at the bath
>rt doesn't get the munchies
olwcat fix this
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>>553500989
The Emperor cares for Mankind, but not for individual men.
>Even the Space Marines he planned to betray and kill in the end, once they served their purpose.
Especially the space marines. They were just a tool, he doesn't want some superhumans running around
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>>553501112
He cares for Mankind in the sense that he wants it to evolve and reach a higher state of being, his ultimate plan was turning everyone into Psykers and having them live in the Webway to escape Chaos. He is never shown as valuing individual human lives and if anything is disdainful of those without power or excellence which would explain they the entirety of the Imperium is set up like a hybrid of Fuedalism and Communism on steroids. Your only value if you are not a member of the ruling class is sacrificing your existence to empower and serve said ruling class.
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>>553500964
>talk about xenos stuff- like- food
I'd have liked to talk to her about mundane stuff like this
>so do you eat sunlight and crystals or something
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>>553501375
>hybrid of Fuedalism and Communism on steroids
They call it "Fascism"
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Noble buffs when
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>>553500897
Fence-sitter
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>>553501693
Never.
Retards on reddit think a +5 characteristics boost is amazing and has great synergy with officer, so owlcat will never even think about changing it.
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>>553500964
I don't want her talking to guys like Marazhai.
If she's bored she can talk to the technomat who hangs out near her.
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>>553501375
40k began as an elaborate parody of the 80s with the Imperium being a stand in for thatcherism but lost it somewhere along the way. It is recoverable however if they stop low-key dissing the Tau.
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>>553502097
When Marazhai had his episode I thought one of the options was going to be to have Yrilet just teach him some meditation techniques to relax
I assumed that's why she wanted to come along, not jump on the kill Marazhai train too
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>>553502317
>This shitty meme again
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>>553502317
>It is recoverable however if they stop low-key dissing the Tau.
Oh fuck the Tau
What they really need to do is get over the primarch-slop, and that includes all the big named characters like Trayzn
The setting should be about mood and atmosphere, not a cramped stage for a handful of bigshots to plod around on
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Why do people say the Expanse is a boring setting because it only has humans? The Belters play a big role in the story.
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>>553501631
Fascism largely developed as a political philosophy as an adversary of Communism, though, in fact it could be argued that without Communism Fascism would never have become a reality in the first place.
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>>553502859
They want blue alien women to fuck
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>>553502607
I guess it was cut. Marazhai mentions something about Yrliet talking to him to try to warn him what to expect during a warp jump, but you never actually see it.
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>>553502859
For me, I think it's more boring than it could otherwise be because it relies on the protomolecule space magic to constitute a generic scifi threat when human factions politicking and jockeying for position in the solar system is plenty interesting.
It's the same as why nexus the jupiter incident very quickly gets less interesting.
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>>553502681
Face it man, the time of 40K being about the grand armies, and vast battles across a gigantic galaxy where you can easily insert "your guys" is long gone. Now the setting is just about all the big named characters and everyone tagging along on their epic and incredible adventures, with all sense of grandeur and majesty stripped out of the setting as a result. Look at the garbage that is Horus Heresy, it went from being a mysterious event half shrouded in myth and hearsay to having every little detail about it enumerated and made incredibly retarded in the process. Look at the old version of Sanguinus in the HH VS the new one for a prime example of just how fucked up it all is. There's no mystery or sense of scope in the setting at all anymore, and it's never coming back.
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>>553502859
Belters are space indians
No thank you
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>>553503352
Indians all went to mars.
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>>553503218
What? 95% of the expanse is just human factions politicking.
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>>553503293
Yeah
:(
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I'm gonna restart my Fallout 1 experience

Is there any mods to upgrade quality of life? Or should I just get good and pull through it?
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>>553503218
The Expanse is so boring because the writers lack the technical knowledge and imagination to make it good
There really isn't much exploration of life on a globohomo earth, or the practical realities of terraforming mars and trying to live on it at the same time, or even what it's like to be a belter and live on a space station.
They also forgot to have Venusian cloud cities, or do anything with the Moon.
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>>553503543
Don't tell them. It'll make it funnier when the game comes out and people start larping about based martians
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>>553503671
Gifted Perk
Good Natured Perk

Max INT and AGI, set STR at 5 or 6, dump EN and CHA, rest into PER and LCK. Tag Speech, Science, and Small Guns. Congratulations, you've beaten the game.
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>have two xenos in my team
>My RT has to disable the xenos traps because their xenos lore is ass
>Corrects Marazhai when he talks about the Kabal
>Yriliet can speak to her fellow aeldarin
>He's persuasion is so low they call her mean names instead and become so disgusted they leave without fighting
So many xenos in the universe and I get those two rejects from clown school
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>>553504683
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Why do people lie and say RT has no personal skill checks
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>>553505037
I didn't LIE
I just used my imagination
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>>553505037
Because that’s how it should be.
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>>553499741
The Persona games are shit.
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>>553505037
>he dumped perception
owlcat likes to hide context behind invisible perception checks
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>>553505310
They're still doing this in DH
If you miss that perception check the entire encounter with Sister Septima when you have your xenos assistants with you makes zero sense.
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>>553505307
true. they where slightly less shit when cozy was behind them though
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I need help anons. Bout to be laid out for a week and I need help deciding what game to sink my down time into. I'm trying to decide between Original Sin 2 or Wrath of the Righteous.

>>553499367
It's meh at best. I suggest pirating the complete edition and just adding a few qol ui mods.
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>>553503543
technically just like in mass effect
Indians are everywhere including in positions of power
earth government is literally led by an Indian woman at one point
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>>553505439
DH should reward you for actually building your character like an investigator for their detective game
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>>553502859
because it IS a boring setting
nobody cares about earth vs mars bs
belters are simply too cringe and the whole proto molecule meme is just plain stupid
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>>553502859
It's okay but kind of dry. Most people want more cool shit in their scifi. If I wanted hard science and boring shit I'd read Kim Stanley Robinson.
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Moorecock hands out his license for peanuts, owlcat should adapt his works next.
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>>553506834
It don't think Moorcock's work is great for a CRPG since each work and setting is tied so intrinsically to its particular Eternal Champion. Elric books are about Elric and a setting built for Elric, Corum books are about Corum and a different setting built for Corum. The world is often sketchy and mythic. There's the overarching connective elements with law and chaos but it's all very loose. And stuff with a bit more of a concrete setting like Hawkmoon are pretty deep cuts. Moorcock stuff would be much better suited to a Witcher-style fixed protag adventure game RPG than a CRPG. Only thing Pathfinder, 40k and the Expanse have is common is that the stuff that really stands out about the IP is the setting itself rather than any particular characters.
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More cock
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>>553508120
.t daeran
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>>553506834
Why are anglo names like this?
Dick in son
More cock
Cucumber batch
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>>553464902
>>553464028
>>553465448
>>553465475

extremely unlikely but an expansion adding a Disco Elysium style "thought cabinet" system but for all teh weird Inquisitorial ideologues would be great. probably too niche to be considered meaningful though. plus it seems all people care about are companions, unfortunately.
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>>553508338
To assert dominance
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>>553506834
>futafags are icky but he wants Morecock
baka
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>>553493618
Simmer down, tranny chaser.
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Which alignment acknowledges that futa is straight?
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well that's a change.
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>Sister Argenta, do your duty.
the game made it really too easy to not like Idira.
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>>553509703
"Binharic Trill" sounds like pic related
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I really don't understand people who dislike Idira
She might be dangerous but she's a pleasant person
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>>553509689
neutral evil
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>>553510308
On top of that she's also an unsanctioned psyker.
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>>553510308
She's feels Haitian-coded to me
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>>553509543
Nah, I hate trannies so much it's unreal. Taash was ruined precisely because tranny bullshit polluted the sigil of "semidemonic, athletic dommy she-warrior".
Futa and such is a fetish that was never supposed to be real, it's like tentacle rape and others like that
But fucking brain-rotten tumblr bastards and big pharma reptiles had to meme it into reality. Fuck this timeline.
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>>553510706
Meds
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She's such a cute retard sometimes
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>>553510308
she is pleasant. i executed her playthrough 1 cause i was playing a former commissar, and it seemed in character given that her accidents had caused a lot of damage up until that point.

couple playthroughs later i spared her (doing commissar again but one afraid to lose a potential means of avoiding disaster through her soothsaying), and also cause its how you keep optimistic argenta
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Yeah Corrupt Golden Dragon makes zero fucking sense the way it plays out. Visually it looks cool but I'm just going to reload a save and go Legend instead.
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>>553510308
most people experience her blowing up or summoning a daemon in the tutorial. I get why people put her on the bench even though she's completely broken when you build her right
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>>553510706
>year 2026
>zero futa companions, much less romances
It was never meant to be, anon
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>>553503548
It's all background noise to the main threat.
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>>553509689
Futa with balls is gay
Futa without balls is straight.
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>>553510308
you know why, its her appearance
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BG2 is certainly a lot darker right off the bat than I remembered.
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Was Imoen raped?
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>>553512969
Yeah replaying the dryad encounter she clearly was
Definitely mind-raped and probably physically too
And then she's stuck in an insane asylum with her rapist while you're fucking around solving little sidequests for weeks on end
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>>553512969
At least she never turned evil from all that systematic rape
Unlike Bastila who couldn't switch sides fast enough
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When Idira summons a daemon I always feel bad because I was the one who ordered her to use her powers in a risky way
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Curious as to the opinions here about how new and future CRPGs will pursue cinematic vs. text-based storytelling. Baldur's Gate 3 is one of my favorite games of all time, however I am interested to see how its impact will affect development of future CRPGs.

I know interest in CRPGs has grown significantly with the popularity of the game and personally believe that is largely due to the increase in cinematic cut scenes and full voice acting. While this certainly makes the game more accessible, I do hope that it doesn't lead to less text-based CRPGs coming out (and being recognized) in the future.

I feel that spending time and money on aspects other than voice acting and motion capture allow for a more intricate world if one is willing to put in the effort. While I certainly find it easier to sit back and relax while playing BG3 than I do playing BG1, I remain hopeful that text-heavy games will continue to be a staple of the genre so more stories can be shared.

I'm certainly a fan of both styles but I hope that we see a split in the genre rather than the quiet death of text based games like Disco Elysium and Pillars of Eternity.

Do you think BG3’s success will lead to a healthy split in the genre, or are you concerned that more text driven CRPGs may struggle to gain visibility going forward?
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>>553513537
I think the pendulum will move back towards text because
1) It's cheaper and easier
2) People don't actually mind reading. People used to read entire books for entertaining not even that long ago
Telling a story through cutscenes reduces it to a very simplistically filmed movie, like a telenovella. If I'm going to watch a movie I want it to look like one, not an in-game cutscene.
Text with key lines voiced for flavor is the most enjoyable split and I think it will win out.
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>>553513467
it's ok, you head pat her and give her kissies to make the booboos go away after every battle
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>>553512969
What makes you think so? Irenicus is described as emotionless, or rather, incapable of emotion, and he writes in his diary how he pities Bodhi's "carnal nature"... if he were capable of emotion. That doesn't sound like someone who would resort to rape imo. I know the dryad's line sounds bad but I choose not to interpret it as implying something sexual.
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>>553510706
Why do you want a "woman" with a dick?
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>>553514338
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>>553514421
Well Imoen explicitly describes his cold fingers in her mind, so there's mindrape or whatever
And she tried to describe something else but couldn't bring herself to say it
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>>553514421
He tried squeezing the dryads' tits just to see if he could feel something. Didn't work
He didn't physically rape imoen because he'd realized by that point it's no use but he interfered with her in other ways, physically and mentally. Cutting etc. I mean she literally says as much. That's why she has a scar on her eye.
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>>553515381
Of course it was mind rape. He needed to break her spirit. There's no need to insert sexual violence in that context.
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>>553515637
Low brow fantasy fans think sexual violence is a replacement for depth
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>>553515249
let me save idira dlc when
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>>553510706
futanari as we know it was invented by japanese ero-manga authors who imported american tranny porn in the late 70s and 80s lol
you do have a small point though, someone with a futa fetish doesn't necc also want to fuck trannies irl
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What if the Emp is the collective will of humanity and has no agency
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>we may despoil all without second thought and wish an end to all life, but we would never misgender, be racist or rape
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>>553515637
Jon Irenicus might be a soulless monster desperate to feel even a fragment of emotion but even he draws the line as non-consensual touching.
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>>553516796
Disgusting
Imagine hugging your own sister
Who would do this??
>Oh I didn't know she was my sister
Yes you did, it's perfectly obvious in Irenicus' Dungeon that she's a Bhaalspawn too. You have no excuse
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>>553515637
He's clearly trying to recreate the feelings that his wife created in him. He would talk to her all about his wife's room, perfectly preserved.
Why are zoomers so prudish about everything.
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okay but why didn't he rape jaheria ?
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>>553517292
Jaheira is too skinny and wiry.
Imoen has 10% more hitpoints than Jaheira, and they're all in the right places.
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>>553516937
>desperate to feel even a fragment of emotion
No, he's explicitly past that point. He KNOWS he can't feel emotion anymore and wrote that in his journal. That is his curse.
>>553517263
He tried that with the dryads already. That's as far as your imagination should go. Rape is about either sexual gratification or power, often the latter. There's nothing in it for him, especially with a human brat who shouldn't remind him of his ex-lover the way the dryads did.
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I can report that GoG BG works perfectly well under Wine on Linux
And moreover, so do the mods. You just run the mod exe from the install folder using Wine and it works perfectly
No need to fuck around using the "to lowercase" script to correct file names as is sometimes advised for BG2 mods on linux, Wine just works
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>>553510308
I dont need a nigger that blows herself up every 3 seconds on my ship
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>>553517989
Abelard, cut this dog down.
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If CHAD greenwood wrote bg2 there would have been a ton of rape.
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>>553517404
whiney , annoying and barren
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>>553518119
>CHARNAME... Irenicus... he... he.... he raped me... in my ASS
>Don't worry Imoen, we'll make him make it up to you somehow
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Why are moids so fucking disgusting and obsessed with rape?
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>>553518591
Rape fantasies are (both raping and rapee) are incredibly common among both men and women. CRPGs need to address this.
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>>553517292
He has standards
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Imoen was raped, but it wasn't Irenicus who did it.
It was Charname.
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>but Imoen, you poop from there!
>I know! Irenicus didn't care
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What kind of retard names their spawn "Charname"?
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>>553519014
It's a variant of "Charmaine"
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Is DA2 the only CRPG where your mother wasn't a whore?
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>>553519113
that's a girl's name, like kamille
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>>553518119
Now im just imagining crazy shit that has happened in his forgotten realms book happening in baldurs gate
>you impregnate imoen then find out half way through the pregnancy she is your sister
>after gorion dies a god offers to be your new parent then fucks you after establishing a bond and mentoring you
>viconica breast milk scene
>your bhalspawn urges take over and cause you to rape jaheria while imoen watches then cries and professes her love to you
>minsc fucks a dragon described in extreme detail
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>>553519175
>you impregnate imoen then find out half way through the pregnancy she is your sister
Greenwood would have these happen in the reverse order
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>>553519175
God ed is to based for this world.
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>>553461358
i love the scale of owlcat games but i don't think i'll ever replay one
20 hours is barely scratching the surface if you're actually taking the time to immerse yourself in the setting and doing optional quests
i almost wish completing these games would unlock a highlights mode to make different choices and experience the big story beats without having to do all the minutiae again

>just toybox
nah
>story difficulty
rather re-read a book, its not like that
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>>553519175
You forgot a tiefling girl tail sex scene thats like in half of his books.
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People are too dismissive of Minsc. He knows when something doesn't seem quite right. At least Boo does anyway.
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>>553519412
I kneel
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>>553519772
You’re not allowed to enjoy comic relief companions anymore
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>>553519934
The world doesn't need designated clowns anymore.
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How do you write a funny character?
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i find jaheria unappealing
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>>553511737
People here truly don't play read or watch anything
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>>553520468
He should say epic ironic funny memes I can put in my tiktok compilations but he can't make real jokes because I'm too socially stunted or miserable to enjoy genuine attempts at comedy.
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>>553491280
Because they love showing off their tolerance. Even if she was unlikebable (she's not) they'd still be tripping all over themselves to say how great she is in a vain attempt to look progressive.
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>>553499128
No, that's just your cuck fetish talking
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>she's not
Epione is about as likeable as idira
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>>553498516
They like both
Heinrix:
>I can fix him
Marazhai
>He can ruin me
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>>553519578
That's understandable, they're pretty long games. It usually takes a couple months after beating their games before I feel ready to replay them.
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>>553517482
>But anon, Irenicus CONFIRMED he can't feel emotion anymore
>He confirmed it in WRITING
>Why would a man EVER pursue trying to feel something, anything, after he has CONFIRMED in his JOURNAL that he can't?
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Jaheira, you are becoming hysterical
Frankly, I think Khalid might be happier this way
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>>553525057
The journal entries are, for all intents and purposes, the word of the author. Beyond that, I'm not interested in trying to imagine every male character ever as a schizo rapist who would lie even in his writings, but you do you.
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>>553525624
>If a character displays any complexity they are lying
Autism in action
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>>553526142
Your porn addiction is not complexity. It's the chain that keeps yanking you back to the childish shortcut that violence or sexual violence is a substitute for good writing. In other words, you're the kind of tool described by >>553515928.
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>>553525057
His trying to pursue is proves that he actually does have feelings though. If he didn't he wouldn't seek it. His journals are just cope and larp. Yes, people lie even to themselves
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>>553526565
>a blind person trying to see again is proof that they’re not really blind
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>>553526565
Nah bro the journal is the word of the author, it's canon
If you imagine that Irenicus is somehow trying desperately to feel something even though he knows it's futile, even stooping to interfering with Imoen and the dryads, as they explicitly describe, then that's headcanon and you're a gooner
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>>553526697
>retard can't even make a correct analogy
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>>553527252
>uuhhh sorry but if you really needed those hearing aids you wouldn’t be deaf
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>>553527501
>retard keeps making a fool of himself
Stick to food analogies
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>>553510308
No she's not. She's nasty towards Argenta and several other religious figures and Imperial figures. You didn't pay attention and only remember what you want to remember if you think she's "pleasant". She's constantly shit talking in a negative way, I'm actually surprised at how incorrect you are. Play the game again.
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I think jumping straight to sexual rape instead of many of the more fucked up things he’s implied to have been doing mostly speaks to your own personal derangement. Later GoT tier lazy edgelord bullshit.
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>>553526565
A side effect of the curse was a gradual loss of the ability to feel. This is why he did try to stir some form of it with the dryads (who resembled his ex-lover) at some point, and failed. This is already explained above. By the time he kidnaps Imoen and CHARNAME, Irenicus has already been soulless for a long time. Even putting aside the journals you never read because you're a shitposter that never played the game, rape serves no practical purpose for him. It wouldn't grant sexual gratification because he's soulless or a feeling of power because he already has all the power over his new prisoners. This is also already explained above.
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>>553527910
Imperiumcucks need to hear that shit talk.
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Why is there 0 reactivity with Kibellah during the Void Shadows Genestealer quest?
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>no los
>out of a fucking window
thank you larian, very cool
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>>553528272
Because a few edge case lunatics might not recruit her, so the entire DLC main quest needs to be designed to not include her
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>>553527910
>several other religious figures and Imperial figures
Oh no
How horrible
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>>553528483
Sounds like an excuse, she said nothing the entire time. There is a big gulf between "she says some fluff and maybe has some unique event during the quest" and "the quest breaks if you didn't recruit her".
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>>553528620
Her "shit talk" is also incredibly benign and not very malicious, unlike some other party members who say some wild shit now and again. You need to be a real zealot dogmatard to seethe at Idira's reactions and banter.
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>>553527910
She calls Argenta sanctimonious a couple of times, yet shows genuine concern for her in private
Meanwhile Argenta is seething and calling Idira a witch and all sorts of things.
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When Jimmy is injured in combat, Idira says "Now's our chance to abandon him and be free of him".
When Argenta is injured in combat, Idira says "Not so sanctimonious now, huh?" in a mocking tone.

Jimmy softening towards her and giving her advice on how to handle being a psyker, and Argenta softening towards her and using her as an example of a hardworking person who is also a mutant/psyker means that these people are willing to forgive her despite her behavior towards them and despite the fact that she's unsanctioned and despite the fact that she causes so much trouble for the ship, and these are the people she makes fun of for getting injured in combat. So her behavior is extra fucked up since they're nice to her (eventually).

Delighting at a comrade's death is actually fucked up, even if you disagree with them on some matters. That kind of behavior is despicable. I'm actually disappointed that people would outright lie and try to say Idira is "pleasant". You can like her if you want, but just say you like how she acts and describe how she actually acts. Don't lie and say she's nice.
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>>553527910
Ironically she gets along with jimmy. But that's probably because he's also nicer to her than most other people despite immediately going "oi, do you have a loisence for that psykery, mate?" when meeting her for the first time
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>>553528824
Ok, now listen to what they all say when Idira dies in combat. Combat lines do not change based on character development.
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>>553528824
Jimmy isn't a comrade. He hides things from you and acts above you
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>>553528824
It's always autists who fundamentally misunderstand characters sperging out about battle barks
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>>553528983
It has to be an intentional shitpost, no one can be that thick to care about combat lines like that.
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>>553528272
She has very little reactivity everywhere aside from a few times people go "I-is that kibera-sama????? AIIIEEEEE SAVE ME ROGUETRADERMAN!"
Probably because she's not an actual person with opinions so she doesn't really have anything to say or add
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>>553528824
Oh god it's the combat barks autist again
>I am not your xenos pet, mon-keigh
That's not what you were saying last night, sweetheart
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>>553528772
>Meanwhile Argenta is seething and calling Idira a witch and all sorts of things.
Argenta also expresses genuine concern, that is met with out of place seething. They are the same
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>>553529108
I brought her around for most of Act 1-2 and the beginning of Act 4, she was fairly chatty. Of course, this was due to the Bloodspun Web and initial Genestealer stuff, but even on unrelated missions she chimed in often enough. It's just weird, she doesn't say shit during the actual Void Shadows quest.
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>>553529279
Argenta and Idira have a whole-ass friendship arc.
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I like that the only response is "those don't count" as if what a character says doesn't define what they're like. The lines are in the game to convey to you the player what that character says and thinks. Otherwise they wouldn't be in the game. I don't know why people here get these ideas of what they like or don't like and then outright lie to justify it, rather than adjusting their views when they get more information or are reminded of something. It's so strange and completely illogical. They're actually literally and unironically trying to say "those voice lines don't count" because they completely dismantle their view of Idira being nice. Especially in the case of Jimmy who has like one line about her being unsanctioned and then is nice to her onward. But she still says to literally abandon him.

These sort of sentiments only being in combat barks is also a lie. She is negative towards Argenta and Jimmy both in various dialogues, including one where she tells the very strange lie that Argenta is "the worst one" of the party, when she's in the middle of summoning demons on the ship and Argenta has done literally nothing wrong all game, at that point and onward if we use our meta knowledge.

I'm so disappointed that people would try to lie and say she's friendly, and I'm so disappointed that people would try to lie and say these negative sentiments are only conveyed in combat barks, and I'm so dissapointed that someone would try to lie and say combat barks don't generally still contribute to a character's characterization. I wish so badly that people would stop lying about games, what is the point of misinforming people?
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>tfw finally realize that Jae's accent is suppose to be an Iranian/Persian accent.
Pretty wild I didn't think of that. But it's 100% that down to a T.
With that in mind the VA actually did a pretty good job.
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>>553529679
Idira, siphon this retard's life away.
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>>553529679
Is this the same guy who writes paragraphs about cucking and how awesome and grimdark imperium is.
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>>553529760
maybe because she's Iranian RETARD
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>>553529679
You're right, but there's also a problem of voicelines not changing to reflect the character's growth, change fo heart and developing relationships within the group. It all boils down to money. While you can add more lines of dialogue to reflect that, adding voicelines is much more expensive, so devs just ignore it. And we will be seeing less and less of the former too, since retards in gamedev are moving ahead with muh full va. As for owlscrap, reactivity has never been their stength, so even added lines of dialogue is too much to ask for
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>>553529679
Oh she was just joking about leaving Jimmy behind
Abelard would approve, he dislikes this uninvited snoop
As for Argenta, Idira can sense plain as day that Argenta is hiring something that she's ashamed of. Idira just doesn't know what it is yet.
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>>553530269
>It all boils down to money.
How expensive can it be to record 10-15 more barks per character?
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>>553529760
Supposedly she based Jae's personality on her own Iranian aunties
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>>553529679
>I'm so disappointed that people would try to lie
lol
lmao even
Stop having such expectations of 4chinners
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>>553529679
>Argenta has done literally nothing wrong all game
Idira flat out tells you that she senses darkness following behind Argenta like a flowing cape. She knows Argenta has done something
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>>553530508
All the money that could be spent on coke and hookers instead.
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>>553530750
Idira is clearly evil because she was mean to my waifu for murdering the mother figure who groomed her.
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>>553530269
He isn't right at all. Idira is one of the most pleasant companions, even to Imperiumtards who look down on her. Her most biting comments, like to Argenta during the daemon summoning, are due to her suspicion of her. Combat lines should change as characters develop, but it's a minor thing overall.
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>>553529679
>she tells the very strange lie that Argenta is "the worst one" of the party,
It's not a lie
Lie implies intentional deception
She genuinely believes Argenta is the worst one
Autists cannot distinguish "false" from "lie"
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No wonder autists watch anime
No room for interpretation there
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Idira is NOT pleasant because she is a HERETIC (check her alignment) and heresy is by definition unpleasant
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>>553531006
>No room for interpretation there
Monster would mindbreak you
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>>553531006
You'd be surprised (not really) at how many retards misinterpret even the most obvious themes and narrative choices in manga and anime.
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>>553530874
>reverts back to "it doesn't count"
Don't ever reply to me again, retard
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>>553531348
But it doesn't count
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>>553528824
jimmy is a narc who snitches on you so Idira isnt wrong about that. She is still over all a shit character.
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>>553531348
1. It doesn't count
2. You're a big fat dummy
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>>553531252
I watched the first 3 episodes of Monster back when was first running becuase that's all I had at the time. Years later I learnt that it has bazillion episodes. What the fuck is there to tell for that long?
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>>553531452
>t.
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>>553493618
>A less ugly face with better, more fitting horns
Agreed.
>Drop the gender identity wanking and replace it with her being insanely horny and dominant all the time, like in that kabedon scene
That would have been great. And fitting.
>Bigger ass, tits and cock
The holy trifecta...
Holy fuck I would KNEEL and Veilguard would be a game of the decade for me.
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How many retards did Nocturne's simple rhymes filter?
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I dont like owlcat games, they are woke and reddit.
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>>553531651
You are wrong and silly.
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Why did owlcat make epione when idira was so unpopular?
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>>553532023
To please me.
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>>553531651
Anon I hate to tell you this but I think you might be legitimately autistic.
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>>553531832
All shitposting aside unironically having a reddit division for your company is pretty cringe.
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>>553532023
Idira is very popular with everyone except for one very vocal autist
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>>553531721
None of them? They're not hard rhymes. You're not some sort of big brain genius for understanding them
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>>553530884
Good of you to admit that it's false at least, even though you're quibbling over the difference between lie and accidentally mistaken. Which while true, misses the point that the absolute worst person in the room is saying someone else is the worst person in the room.

And since all she knows is a vague shadow of a secret following her, means she's at least reckless with the truth, since a vague shadow of a secret doesn't mean she's "the worst". It's just a nasty person lashing out at someone who simply stated that this is not the first time Idira has summoned demons, which is a statement of fact. This is what Argenta says, it's all stating facts. Lashing out and exaggerating and being loose with the truth when someone is simply listing your crimes are all personality flaws, of a nasty person.
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>>553532758
>no one got filtered by Nocturne
LOL

And where did I imply they were hard?
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>>553532842
based screenshot taker to dispell idiratard lies
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>>553532842
>quibbling over the difference between lie and accidentally mistaken.
It's a very important distinction
>Idira is the absolute worst person in the room
Ok so you're obviously biased
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>>553532842
Please tell me you're just shitposting
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>>553532842
>You're a monster. A heretic! Admit it!
>You're sanctimonious
>*GASP*
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I will cut the neck of all who malign Idira. You shall be made into corpse-starch and served to my beats of burden.
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Being mean to Argenta is morally wrong regardless of circumstances and makes you worse than the most deranged chaos worshipper.
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>>553533439
Argenta wasn't bullied near enough in the game.
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>>553532842
>though you're quibbling over the difference between lie and accidentally mistaken.
>THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IT DOESN'T MATTER
Jesus, you really are severely autistic.
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>>553533471
There's nothing to bully her for. She's perfect and based and also white.
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>>553533629
ok ranjesh
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>>553529407
Only if you force the issue with non-canon iconotard choices.
Canonically Argenta would never be friends with Idira.
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>>553533083
Are these people in the room with us right now?
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>>553533909
>Canonically Argenta would
blow her brains out with a boltpistol agter finally snapping somewhere around mid act 1.
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>>553532842
I think that when idira called argenta the "worst of them all" she meant the voices. As in her nagging is more annoying than all the voices in her head. Not that she's "worst person ever". I'm a speed reader though, so i might be wrong
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>>553533958
Yes!
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>>553532582
>one vocal autist
Owlcat posted the companions usage rate, she was one of the bottom 3
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>>553528824
>>553529679
>>553532842
Kys mintharafag. Argenta or any Sister would kill you on sight for being a degenerate.
You love 40k because you have a massive holier than thou complex and masturbate to Sisters!
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>>553533909
Iconoking with a small mix of dogmachud is the right way to play
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>>553534091
Oh ok that makes sense
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>>553534091
Congrats on the basic reading comprehension
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>>553534209
>retards are filtered by a wild mage
Many such cases
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>>553534493
99% of /crrpg/ is illiterate, so such things should be celebrated.
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>>553533134
What Idira said is not actually able to be known by her, but she claimed it anyway. All she sees is a vague shadow of a secret, and she jumps to "you're the worst". That's absolutely saying something that you can't actually know and may not be true. She's being loose with the truth. Using our meta knowledge we happen to know that it's factually incorrect, since what Argenta did was right, but even without knowing that and just looking at what Idira knew at the time, she can't make that claim just because she sees a vague shadow of a secret. Claiming things you don't actually know is being loose with the truth, and is adjacent to lying. "I wasn't lying, I was just claiming something that I didn't know was true or not and it turned out to not be true" is funny. If you don't know it, don't claim it. Idira did claim something without knowing if it was true, and it ended up being false. That is at the very least being reckless with the truth, and I would even say that definitively claiming something that you don't actually know is true or not is pretty much lying, especially in this case where it does end up being false.

I'm not biased, this is all factual. They've all killed people, but we have no reason to believe any of our other companions have gotten hundreds or even thousands of people killed due to negligence. We also see that Argenta and immy warm up to Idira and help her over the course of the story, but she doesn't really do anything for them. She doesn't really show growth in her own treatment of others, whereas JJimmy is nice to her immediately after one comment because he understands the tribulations of a psyker, and Argenta does show growth by liking Idira later on.

>>553533267
That's not what I said, and isn't even what I'm talking about. We're not talking about idira merely calling Argenta sanctimonious. Please display at least the bare minimum of reading comprehension.

>>553533547
That's not what I said.
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>>553534612
>That's absolutely saying something that you can't actually know and may not be true.
>She's being loose with the truth
Gosh, who would do such a thing? Only a monster
>a vague shadow of a secret,
So you admit Argenta was hiding something? Looks like Idira was right. You can't be too careful after having lost one rogue trader already
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>>553534612
>NOOO IDIRA IS A EVIL BITCH BECAUE SHE ISN'T NICE TO GLOWIES AND EXTREMISTS

You would say Cassia is a nice angel princess when she wants to kill poor people because shes your waifu

Now can you tell me about why Shadowheart is the evilest character in bg3 because she doesn't want to use her birth name.
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shaddap
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Jimmy likes Idira. You think you know better than Jimmy?
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I don't completely agree with the guy because I like Idira for the most part, but all the people just tossing out shitty greentext of things he didn't even say are making Idira fans look really bad. What he's saying about Idira's behavior is true. I like her because she's still trying her best despite being an untrained psyker who was taken advantage of by Theodora. But I'm not going to sit here and try to say she's nice, because she's not.
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jimmy is a snitch, I don't respect his opinion
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>>553534823
That's different because Cassia is sheltered
Idira is experienced and should know better than to jump to conclusions and start hurling around accusations like "sanctimonious"
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>>553535029
stop samefagging
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>>553535029
>Yes I agree with me I am so right always
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>>553535029
He's unironically severely autistic and is arguing about something she didn't say because he takes things too literally.
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What does "sanctimonious" even mean
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>>553535223
the meaning of sanctimonious is immanent in argenta's early behavior
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>>553535223
>making a show of being morally superior to other people.
Exactly what the autist is
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Non-that-anon here. I'm a huge fan of Idira, but I also agree with all of his points.
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>>553535337
Well
She's not wrong then
Argenta DOES do that
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>>553535358
NYOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE A CHARACTER AND ALSO ADMIT THAT THEY'RE NOT NICE AAAAAAAAHHHHHH I AM GOING INSAAAANE
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I wish Argenta and Idira had fanart to trigger him sighhh
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>>553535301
Yrliet speaks pretty good English to know what "immanent" means
And it's not "imminent", she can tell them apart
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>>553535223
nametard
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>>553534209
Its amazing how owlcats nigger companions are consistently their least used but they still insist on adding them.
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>>553535029
I'm not saying don't like her. I like her too for what she is. She's an interesting character. I'm just reacting to the false claim that she's "nice". She's actually pretty shitty towards some people, and in ways that are inappropriate for a team, and towards people who are actually pretty patient/forgiving towards her. Like saying to abandon members or being smug when someone she doesn't like dies. She's not a nice person. I've proved it with screenshots and why stuff like "those lines don't count" or "she's only mean in combat" are literally just not true. That's all.

>>553535086
There are times Argenta is sanctimonious. But there are also times where Argenta is simply stating facts and Idira doesn't like to hear it. Also, this isn't about Argenta being sanctimonious and no one said Argenta is never sanctimonious, the people defending Idira are muddying the water with tangents about what the definition of lying is or whether or not Argenta is ever sanctimonious. I don't know why people are like this instead of just discussing the game honestly.
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>>553535716
Mastering simple mon-keigh languages like Low Gothic is an easy for an Aeldari!
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>>553535975
Argenta would never fuck you. Can you tell me about your holy lesbian Sister army.
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>>553536045
>typo
Aw, too hard for a mon-keigh, for true!
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>>553535975
>this isn't about Argenta being sanctimonious
Well what else is there? That's the great big outburst she had towards Argenta
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>I've proved it, he says, after proving nothing but his own idiocy
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I can't believe Idira isn't nice to people who want to kill her. How could she be so heartless.
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>>553536101
No, calling Argenta the worst one in the room while we're standing among the dead bodies from the deamons she summoned was the actual discussion. Idira has gotten hundreds or perhaps even thousands of people killed, and we are told this is not the first time she's done it. When someone is listing these crimes, she has the gall to respond to them by saying "you're the worst one", when that is unknowable by her, and is also factually untrue. That's the issue. No one was talking about whether Argenta is sanctimonious or not until halfway through, that was just someone muddying the water. Argenta is occasionally sanctimonious, obviously, and that fact doesn't require scrutiny.
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>>553536484
>calling Argenta the worst one in the room
Lies
She didn't say the worst one in the room
She meant the worst voice of all
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>>553536484
You hate Idira because shes mean to your fav waifu its okay, just admit it.
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>>553535692
All I have is this one
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I hate idira because she is a literal crackhead nigger.
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Are any other characters besides, the elves, rude to Argenta to get his ire? I don't think so damn.
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>>553536484
I don't know what all the shitposting is even about at this point. every single thing you've said is true
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How does a non-controversial opinion like "Idira is kind of a stupid bitch" cause so much controversy?
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>>553536741
At least you are honest about it
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>>553536045
>an easy
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>>553536484
See >>553534091
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>>553528483
>Because a few edge case lunatics might not recruit her, so the entire DLC main quest needs to be designed to not include her
Next DLC has Solomourne who is necessary and is locked to be present in your party during new quest
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>>553536808
She's a tragic fool that lacks control. She's also generally the nicest companion, followed by Jae, Cassia, and then Argenta when she isn't being retarded. She's a great character, and it's very funny people got filtered because she is black, has a funny accent, and is an unsanctioned psyker.
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>>553536804
I lost your message about how you run 2 business and walk many hours per day
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Nah Idira cares about Argenta. See pic related.
>>553536808
Because it's factually wrong.
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>>553536808
What's funny is that's not even what I said. What I actually said is much more tame than that. The claim was that she's "nice", and I posted proof that she's actually pretty shitty towards some people, and in ways that are completely inappropriate for a fireteam. From there it became the usual dishonest shitposting when someone can't defend a claim, with highlights like "she's only mean in combat" which is not true, "combat barks don't count" which is not true", and "why do you hate her" which I don't so that's not true. All facts, and disprove the false claim that she's nice. It's actually amazing how quickly what you actually say is divorced into some strange strawman so quickly here.
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>>553537443
Idira is nice. You're going to have to get over this.
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>>553537443
>completely inappropriate for a fireteam
Lmao holy shit
Our retinue of misfits is far from a "fireteam"
It's more like a drunken party of nobles
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>>553537443
Please kill yourself nametranny
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>>553536741
>hhmmm what should are black companion be
>what about a sassy black woman that smokes crack and hears voices
A little on the nose their owlcat
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Whoops looks like Idira was right, sadly
Argenta is the true heretic.
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>>553537443
You've made a lot of people mad today, friend, and you weren't even cuckposting. Godspeed
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>mindbreaks chuds and larpers
how did she do it
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>>553537670
Delete this.
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>>553535902
They get their main feedback from reddit, so they will keep adding them in no matter many people dont use them. They will keep wasting resources on a sassy black lady companion no one will use forever.
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>>553537670
Maybe you will get him ranting about how Sister are immune to chaos.
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>>553537926
Epione isn't sassy
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>>553537926
I will use her.
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Sacrificing idira for a better cumrag.
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>>553537926
Epione is anything but Sassy. She's clinical.
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>>553537926
There has been a black companion since Kingmaker, you need to get over it
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>>553537670
She got those heresy points during her "escape" from the "arena" in Cumrag
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>>553537773
Cuckoldry is mankind's oldest friend. Why would it make anyone mad? Impugning Idira? Only a vile soul could do such a thing.
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>stop complaining about this shit that nobody likes that the developer keeps adding into their game
No thanks.
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>>553538367
I used Ekun and Idira. Some anons raped Sosiel with demon KC. People do use them, copeeee
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>>553538315
>your evil if you grt rid of the crackhead that summons demons
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>>553538572
Yes.
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>>553535902
owlcat is russian so it is apart of their communist propaganda.
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Vivienne. Pallegina. Seelah. Idira. What do these have in common?
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>>553460915
Romance makes CRPGs super cringe
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>>553538181
It's actually from equipping an item that gives you rank 2 heretical automatically. It's just a shitpost.
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>>553538734
>gives you rank 2 heretical automatically
Well well well
So much for our "incorruptible sister sanctimonia"
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>>553538703
They are evil
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>>553538703
They won't kiss you
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>>553538676
my schizophrenia tells me this true and thats why owlcat keeps adding in nigger companions despite them being so unpopular. If they were a publicly traded company id be able to follow the paper trail back to the kremlin.
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putin is following berias last directive:
demoralize the decadent west by adding black companions to games
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>>553537926
You'd better use Epione because she's a crowd control beast as well as healbot. You're fucked if you try to make do without her.
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How come Nocturne gets a free ride from Pasqal? He normally has no patience for xenos
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>>553539931
Ride out of Cumragh is that important.
Like you'd make temporary allies to get out of Africa
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>>553539828
NTA but unless that concentration breaking AoE attack is only for her, then Haymar or the Acolyte should be able to be as good as crowd control as her
But yeah, she's easily the best healer
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>>553534965
Where does he stash her body parts after he is forced to dispose of her?
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>>553537443
>inappropriate for a fireteam
PFTHAAHAHAAHA HOLY SHIT
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>>553540048
Cogg's slam is also a thin
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>>553539292
So that is why we are so poor - our government is using our country's budget to insert black characters into western media...
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IDEA! make the mandatory black woman companion hot and romanceable so people complain less.
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I had so much fun in divinity 2 in act 1 classic and now I'm in act 2 and getting my shit pushed in. My characters are relatively geared, I hit level 11, and practically every fight I just get assblasted. The level map didn't help. Watching streams of people playing honor mode and it looks like there's a ton of weird cheese mechanics that make everything easy that I don't care to do or figure out. Fuck it playing something else.
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Real idea, just dont even add the black woman companion in and then no one would complain.
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How weak are you to be demoralized by a video game character
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>>553540780
Man just stack everyone up and kill them
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Better idea! Mandatory hot Asian woman companion instead, that way owlcat can still meet there diversity quote for their investor money.
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>>553540048
Cogg's smash is good. I haven't noticed Gaymor or Acolyte being any good at interrupts except from precise hits
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Are psykers more interesting in DH though
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>>553540885
If you lived in a country with irl crackhead idiras you wouldnt also want them in your escapism to.
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>>553537443
We're not a "fireteam"
We're a group of pals having fun
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>>553541032
Why can autists never get in character as a rich bastard adventuring with their retinue of pets freaks
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>>553540780
>start battles with sneaking, and not as a group bunched together when possible
>give everyone teleports
>learn how to strip defenses and do CC ,not just damage
>Gear number matters more than anything (very rarely you keep something for utility) and merchants update, so steal skill books and gold mostly, so you can keep gear refreshed

You can go through act 1 with the gear you pick up and bruteforcing it, act 2 requires you engage with the mechanics a bit
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>>553541138
Autists can't get in character as anyone besides themselves, due to their brain problems.
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>>553541010
Saro is a pyromancer and he seems more fun to use. He has this toggleable rhyming ability where he uses a most recently used power a second time on his next turn, which can be highly effective if you pay attention but can also nuke your own guys if you aren't looking carefully.
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>>553541358
That does sound fun aaiee I want to play
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>unironically trying to suggest people like idira despite owlcat posting that she was one of the least used companions
I know what you are
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>>553540229
He doesn't. She just hangs out in his room and he brings her food from the cafeteria. She mends tears in his clothing to repay him, and he teaches her to play Regicide. Her foresight powers give her quite an advantage, but he is more skilled.
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>>553541460
I think it's piratable
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>>553541471
Negro when will you learn that the poll does not represent every single player
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>>553541471
>I know what you are
Why do you keep saying that
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>>553541595
From Israel no thanks...
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>>553541773
mr. goldberg cracked the game for you, and you are this ungrateful? oy gevalt!
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They should have made idira asian and have huge titties.
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Every human companion should have been a sister of battle and Yrliet should have been a banshee with big tits and a big ass
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>>553541471
I miss when /v/fags were contrarians instead of just blindly cranking their hog to popularity charts
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>idira is less popular than jae and the murder rape elf
LMFAO, cant wait to see the epione stats in the future.
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>>553542648
Yeah well get ready for a surprise because Epione is cute and based
Haymar will have the lowest stats because he's just blah, just nothing.
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i'm really impressed with the level design in this area.
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>black
>not romanceable
epione is going to do idira numbers. If they made her romanceable she would atleast have some jungle fever fags.
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>>553542853
She seems slightly romanceable.
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dollies owe me fades to black
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>>553542726
A little to early to call that for Haymar. They might have just not written much for him yet.
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>>553537443
It's the way it is here. The one guy responding multiple times about your word choice instead of addressing the point is another symptom of the same problem. Everything you said is right and I look forward to the same guy accusing me of being you like he did the last two times I agreed with you for simply being right as if consensus changes facts
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>trying to imply anyone actually gives a fuck about romancing epione when a Nobel woman rogue trader companion got datamined
I know what you are.
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>>553542958
>slightly romanceable
Is epione the next yirlet?
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>>553541723
Huh, Ulfar is unexpectedly higher than expected. I thought nobody used him at all.
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>>553543574
>Nobel woman rogue trader companion got datamined
Unlike Epione, she is supposed to have a jarring attitude.
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>>553543984
are you implying that most people wouldn't choose the hot Nobel woman over the negro no matter what personality she has?
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>>553542648
Epione is kinda cool so far, shes like a bioterrorist that likes giving heretics and aliens super aids and mentions she thinks white guys are sexy

Idira's biggest flaw is shes a walking red flag that spills demons onto the ship every other day
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Can you spergs shut the hell up?
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idira and epione have the same red flag.
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dont say the Y word
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>>553543780
she does seem to have the same bitchy type of personality so yes.
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>>553544267
Isidor can you tell me your autism diagnosis
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Epione will be yirlet done right if she is romanceable.
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>>553544098
>hot
Proofs?
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>>553544543
She doesn't seem slightly bitchy. She's obedient and supportive
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>>553492556
At least the messy, bushy versions have some definition. The lego hair slabs of meat are the worst ones. It feels like they were figuring out hair modeling through the whole developments and never removed early programmer art from the game.
>>553493742
I need to replay NWN2 after solasta, that game run terribly for me back in the day.
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>>553543574
Aspys has potential to be be far the most fun romance. Horrible little brat who tries to lord it over you, whom you have the opportunity to discipline in a series of whimsical scenarios
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>>553544576
I passed with flying colours, 10/10
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Aspys will be everything yirlet should have been
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>>553544982
beautiful dwarf
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>>553545391
It's time to put down the /crpgg/ mad libs
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>>553541471
They're probably the same redditors who shill Dragon Age: Inquisition, they're always in here trying to ruin the thread with their dogshit opinions
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Since Aspys has been datamined owlcat should give us info about her.
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>>553544982
>NWN2
It was actually pretty funny playing as tiefling
>People assume you and Neeshka are either related or a couple
>Guards are genuinely surprised when you side with them over bandits
>Demons comment on you being tainted/marked
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>>553546171
Her dick is bigger than yours. As are her tits. She prefers being top, but doesn't mind bottoming from time to time.
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Dark heresy idea! Orc merks.
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>>553546302
>As are her tits.
No, they aren't. I gen myself the biggest tits in the sector on purpose.
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>>553536078
Argenta would never fuck you
Last DLC release she will, trust the plan
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>>553546594
Not possible. Her tits are coded as Acolyte+1
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>>553546796
There is no voice acting.
There's that pseudo-latin chatter for crowd scenes and that's it.
>does the game seem to be off to a decent start?
Very much yes. Combat is great and the plot and investigating also.
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>>553537205
I got filtered because that retarded bitch summoned a peril in every and I mean fucking every boss encounter i had in chapter 1
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>>553546594
You know what, I respect the dedication.
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>>553546948
Skill issue. Perils go from minor inconvenience to something you're actively fishing for.
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>>553547098
It's a skill issue on her part, I expect my team to actually do their fucking job well
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In the 10 threads of /crpgg/ so far in 2026, "romanc" was mentioned 30+21+54+55+31+27+24+64+30+32 = 368 times
Thank you for your attention to this matter
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The aspys romance will save crpgg
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>>553547209
Her job is boosting herself and you or Jimmy high as fuck with those perils
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>>553546931
ah okay so still a long ways away.
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>>553547218
>romanc
Many are saying this
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>>553547624
Yeah it's a way off. I think they wanted to get an early opinion of the combat and investigation so they know if they're on the right track or not.
The alpha is about as long as RT Act 1 but it has more characters and plot going on.
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Update: 371 times
>>553547640
This is to include both the nouns and -ing form
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>>553547218
romanCRPG
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>>553547801
I figured :D
Clever
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Romancspys
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HOT TAKE! I'm more excited for Solasta 2.
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When I think crpg I don't picture a shitty minigame like investigations but good on owlcat for pushing the envelope of what a crpg can be
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>>553548205
Its just disco elysium but better
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>>553548205
It's not really a minigame. It's more like a journal system. It just sorts itself out as you complete quests and learn info.
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>>553548205
What I would change is make it less linear. You're led by the nose from one stage of the investigation to the next. It should all be spread across separate sidequests, which only incidentally provide a clue to the investigation along with their regular reward.
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>>553548205
Yeah when I think crpg I think dogshit combat sim
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Seethe about solasta GODS again award.
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>unironically implying anyone gives a flying fuck about solasta
I know what you are.
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What are some zombie survival cRPGs (or TRPG) tbesides Dead State and Urban Strife?
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>solasta
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Why hasn't styg nerfed stealth?
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/crpgg/ LOVES Solasta
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When I think crpg I don't picture a shitty 5e simulator and an ugly ass UI but good on solasta studios for pushing the envelope of what a crpg can be
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Owlcat could learn alot of lessons from solasta, lole how to actuallly make a faction system for one.
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>elfags cry and piss themselves when their knife-ears waifu doesn't even want to be in the same room with them
>meanwhile in Solasta, Queen of Dwarves herself asks us to sleep in her room, because that makes her feel safe and protected
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queen of dwarves is not even worth 1/1000th of the ugliest elf that ever existed
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A Dwarf is a kind of Elf, per Elder Scrolls lore
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Saw the newest crpg changed the word quests to tasks and started pissing myself.
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the Solastafag is the worst poster in these threads fuck off already with your ugly game ugly font ugly UI ugly dwarves
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>>553550572
>activities
>points of interest
>suggestions
>investigations
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Instead of making Solasta 2 those frogs should've made a Wakfu CRPG
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>>553541471
People like Idira
Retarded redditors who do the surveys don’t
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>>553541723
>Argenta 4th place
She is the worst possible version of a SoB.
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I'm glad to see Solasta resonates so much with anons in this general. It's a silly little crpg, but really deserves the attention.
DLC content is a significant improvement, looking forward to Solasta 2!
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Isnt argenta technically the most heretical party member
Killing a rt from a house appointed by big e himself seems like a big deal
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I can't believe it took until 1.5 for owlcat to realize that to make the non-psyker origins good they just had to give them properly scaling talents that weren't limited to once per combat.
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>>553551391
Why tho
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>>553551546
Yes she's very hubristic and severely in need of correction from a senior sister.
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>>553551592
1) Dumb
2) Loose cannon
3) Delusions of grandeur
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>3) Delusions of grandeur
Argenta was actually chosen to inherit the original saint argentas will however.
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>>553551592
Utterly bland and generic, it’s like they asked some random fag who watched some shitty lore video on youtube any nothing else to write her.
Like there’s being representative of the general SoB character tropes, like Pasqal and Heinrix are for their respective organizations, and being nothing except a boring stereotype.
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>>553551546
Theodora was commenting heresy. Argenta did nothing wrong.
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>>553551932
Only through dumb luck because I was holding her hand the entire way
Actually the One Star should be mine
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>>553552040
>Theodora was commenting heresy
That had not been proved. Argenta should have gone through the proper channels.
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if Idira was white you would all love her
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>>553552170
The imperium is an insane decentralized mess. The proper channel is that someone saw she was doing a bad and had a bigger gun.
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>>553552170
Theodra was committing heresy there are no "proper channels" you just kill the heretic on sight.
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>>553552170
If Argenta was black you'd toss that little harlot over the side in the Chasm.
>but but Theodora WAS committing heresy, I swear
Don't care, not your call, you negress little bitch, over you go
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>>553551746
It's a shame Sisters of Battle are always portrayed as unreasonable and crude. Yes they are fervently religious, but they aren't stupid. They are supposed to be a step above the regular soldiers and fanatics, inspiring people much as physically protecting them. They aren't Marines, who are custom-made to eradicate enemies of mankind above everything else and those who care for normal humans are the exception.
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>>553552301
>The imperium is an insane decentralized mess
Yet apparently we, the rogue trader, are always subordinate to someone else.
The one and only time you get to swing your dick around is telling them all to go fuck themselves when they want to lynch Yrliet
Every other time it's "yes Jimmy" and "right away Sister" and "right you are mister calzone"
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>>553552227
>>553552330
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>>553552327
>Theodra was committing heresy
Says Argenta
I say Argenta was in league with those chaos cultists who seemed to know her very well, the ones on Footfall
She fabricated these charges to murder the pious Theodora
The penalty is blamming.
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How do we even know she's a real sister? She just popped out of nowhere, no documentation, claiming to have been "lost for decades in the warp". Very convenient.
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>>553552834
Don't you need to drink the emperors cum to become a space battle sister?
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>>553552952
No I think you just have to go to space sister school
The cum drinking is someone else, maybe custodes.
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>>553552952
Transition is that easy in WH40k???? And they say it's not a progressive enough setting.
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People demand better writing for Sororitas.
Meanwhile writers and the intended audience are 100% not even aware there are different Militant Orders in sisterhood, with different iconography, priorities, approaches to battle and rituals.
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>>553552330
Blackgenta would absolutely MINDBREAK the entire playerbase and beyond.
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Abelard>aregenta
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>>553553262
Abelard would have taken a principled stand against Theodora's heresy, had he known of it.
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AbeLARD is a dog that does whatever Theodora says and wouldnt care. He doesnt leave you during the heratic route, he doesnt give a flying shit about heresy.
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>>553553262
What if we just fuse them
ABELARGENTA
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>>553553567
I can't even remember what took place on Eden Prime but I remember the name positively
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>>553552024
>shoot someone
>go through their stuff later
>but see? they illegally downloaded movies!
The whole plotpoint was fucking retarded and the fact there's 0 reactivity outside of Idira is terrible.
There's a million potential what if's in that situation but Argenta is a based retard who knows she fucked up to the extent she hesitates with Idira out of second guessing herself.
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>>553553845
Whoops meant for >>553552040
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>>553553845
>but see? they illegally downloaded movies
Theodora was using heretical artifacts, so more like you found a ton of pipe bombs.
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>>553553845
>has to make up a retarded straw man
Argenta saw her using the hertical artifacts. Its more like she saw a nigger holding a gun so she immediately decided to shoot them
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>You want a space marine companion?
>Here's a full fledged Space Wolf
>You want a techpriest?
>Here's a techpriest
>You want a Sister of Battle companion?
>Sorry best we can do is an undertrained not really an actual Sister of Battle who's also not only retarded but is a complete failure
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What is the difference between drukhari and the wraiths?
They seem to be just another Kabal with very specific shadow powers
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>>553552441
The inquisition has a lot of weight to throw around so they get to do whatever. Someone like calzone goes too far and you dole out the requisite blamming without fear of reprisal.
Everyone's just kinda going through the motions pretending the hierarchy matters or makes sense.
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>>553554169
>>553554169
>>553554169
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>>553553968
Yes, but the point is that she didn't know.
She admits later on she just recognized the shards properties with the guys who jumped her, but the ship was under attack!
The same people who jumped you could've gotten onboard, Kunrad could've dropped it on her desk, maybe they just pulled it off a dude they killed, whatever. She didn't think and instantly executed both her and her bodyguard and it eats her up inside until she drops it on you.

It's not like she saw her digging through the closet of fucked up shit, it was entirely her being an impulsive clown.
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>>553536590
>people are mean to my companions
why ft does he care? Is he a simp?
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>>553554060
Argenta saw something that she hadn't been read in on because she didn't need to know
She has an objectively low intelligence and an objectively low Lore: Warp score, so she didn't understand what she was looking at, and acted wrongly
Why didn't she act the same way when Jimmy was using the Chaos Computer? A demon came out of that thing.
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>>553554210
>She admits later on she just recognized the shards properties with the guys who jumped her, but the ship was under attack!
So argenta saw her using what she knew to be hertical artifacts and shot her. She did nothing wrong.
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>>553554287
Inquisitors are allowed to do a bit of heresy
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>>553554287
She saw the same chaos shards on the enemies that jumped her.
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>>553554060
>Argenta saw her using the hertical artifacts.
She saw her with a fucking shard in her hand she was studying at her desk that was like something a cultist wore as they beat her up.
Theodora saved her retarded ass and her first instinct was to kill her upon seeing it.
Argenta IS a retard.
>>553554319
No, fuck off. She's a lucky retard but she's still a retard.
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>>553554429
>argenta gets jumped by guys using chaos artifacts
>later sees Theodora using the same artifacts
>hurrr durrr argenta didn't know Theodora was commiting heresy
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>>553554429
Argenta is perfect.
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>>553552040
Even if Argenta had proper proof before shotting her, she didn’t, is she actually in a position to do shit about it?
She’s essentially just a homicidal nun with no proper authority.
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>>553527910
It's completely justified. I get that a bunch of you have been memed into Deus Vult Race War Now type bullshit by Poe's Law but living in an actual fascist regime on a never-ending crusade and being surrounded by Christcucks 24/7 would be extremely irritating to anyone with a brain.
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>>553552040
not her place to even comment on what a RT with a warrant from Emps does
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Argenta should have been executing for murdering a Rogue Trader.



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