Nights of Neverwinter Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>553460915>Thread QuestionFavorite crpg of the 2000s?
Will Larry be more popular than Heinrix and Marazhai
TQ: 1. Baldur's Gate 22. Dragon Age3. Arcanum4. Witcher 15. Mass EffectCome to think of it, 2000-2010 had A LOT of good cRPGs.
We hate Argenta, Imoen, Leliana and Neeshka here.
Fuck you, I love Leliana.
elf wives
We LOVE Argenta, Imoen, Leliana and Neeshka here.
Argenta is the only real companion with agency. If you removed any other companion nothing about the story would change, if you removed Argenta the events of rogue trader wouldn't have even happened.
>Imoen>LelianaHow did Bioware get away with it?
>>553554519She thinks* she sees Theodora using the same artifactsShe doesn't actually check
>>553554689Get away with what? Are they going to sue themselves for stealing from themselves?
>>553554519>get jumped by bad guys>good guy saves you from them>later on bad guys attack your ship with both of you on it>rush to your saviors room to protect them>see them investigating something the bad guys were using>kill them before anyone notices you're there>months to years later you feel exonerated because you just happened to be right for all the wrong reasonsArgenta big dumb.You big dumbest.
But do we love Tali?
>>553554741>Bioware accuses themselves of samefagging
>>553554728If you see someone holding a chaos artifact and dont immediately shoot them you are a Heretic.>>553554750>if you assume the person holding the chaos artifact is a Heretic you are dumb
>>553554689I mean, Dragon Age was supposed to be a deliberate throwback to BG2, so I don't see an issue.In reality it was a fantasy successor to KotOR, but I won't complain.
If it isn't isometric or text based, it is not a CRPG.
Isn't SHARTgenta just an initiated novice and not a true Sister of Battle?
>>553554169Desu Ex 1Icewind DaleWizardry 8NWN 1SpellForceDungeon Siege 1
>>553554839>wow heretics are attacking this ship>oh fuck the person who owns it is in on itBlessed is the mind too small for doubt.
Argenta was literally right about Theodora she did nothing wrong.
>>553554346Yes because he has potentially more depth. A more immediate sad backstory, and an interesting interaction right off the bat"Small creature" indeed
>>553554169Gods it was such an advanced era... We didn't know how good we had it
>>553554839We have an entire hold full of chaos artifactsBut tell my why that "doesn't count"It's alright, you don't need to defend every aspect of Olga's plottingIn any case the entire purpose was to portray Argenta as impulsive, but this time she happened to luck out.Or did she? Would Rykad have even happened if Theodora had lived? We'll never know will we.
>>553554962no she could just be apart of a different heretic faction (which she was btw) chaos infights all the time. Two people can be sworn to the same chaos God and still hate eachother (literally kunrad and Theodora btw)
>>553555096>We have an entire hold full of chaos artifacts But tell my why that "doesn't countI dont pick up chaos cargo or items because that goes against my RP.
>>553554169>Favorite crpg of the 2000s?Baldur's Gate 2
>>553555063I remember people bitching that cRPGs back then were getting more and more dumbed down because consoles, giving Mass Effect and Fallout 3 as examples. So, I dunno about that one.
>>553554883No, she not a novitiate. She is a full Sister of Battle. She was part of one of the regular militant orders before being assigned to the Ordo Pronatus relic guarding/searching order.
I remember always being bewildered why developers wanted to add 3rd person camera to CRPGs so much, like with DA:O and Witcher 1. Was honestly disappointed Witcher 2 went complexly TPS and only begrudgingly accepted Mass Effect 1 as an RPG.
>>553555108Theodora was sworn to a chaos god? To Tzeentch?That must have slipped my fucking mindOr maybe you're just making it up to whitewash your waifu Argenta's criminal activity
>>553555314>Argenta's criminal activityArgenta killed a heretic, what crime?
Everyone fuck offIdira and Argenta are best fwendsIf you don't like it, kill you'reselves.
>>553555427cute
Jimmy not instantly just killing idira is a asspull.
>>553554759cure and canon yuri
>>553555508*grits teeth*
>>553555426Heinrix thinks otherwise.
>>553555108There's so much asspulling when Argentas entire character "arc" is her acting impulsively and you either telling her to chill the fuck out or encouraging it.The plot point was just badly handled and there was almost certainly a rewrite at some point. Shit, the fucking scene in A3 they made a mistake and she says she used her bolter instead of the auto pistol.>which she was btwWhat do you mean? The fucking shards are all part of a single lord of change
>>553555508Not at all. While untrained, Idira holds much potential and clearly has tremendous willpower. With proper training she could be of great use to the Inquisition.If you give her to him, he sends her off for training into a sanctioned psyker.
>>553555574I said it's fine
I don't like how EVERYONE scrupulously says "Aeldari" and "Drukhari" as if they're careful not to violate the copyrightRegular people should just say "Eldar" for all of them
>>553555574is he even a full inquisitior? I thought he was just an acolyte. Calazar doesnt seem to care at all and his word matter more.
>>553555427>implying anyone actually cares about idira
>>553555780>full inquisitorhe's not even half
What are we even arguing about at this point?
>>553555780He's an acolyte, yes. Like an apprenticeLike John Acolyte
>>553555780He's Calcazar's interrogator. That's a step above acolyte or muscle in the retinue. Interrogators are often proteges, and Calcazar says Heinrix is his best agent, though a Lord Inquisitor like Calcazar probably as multiple proteges and promising candidates. Calcazar would sponsor him to be a full inquisitor no matter what, though, even if he doesn't intend for Heinrix to be his "heir".
>>553555902Just plain arguing.
>>553555773I rarely see people with at least some WH experience use Aeldari desu Same with Astra Militarum, most people say Imperial Guard still. Drukhari sound cool tho, it can stay.
>>553555780He's an interrogator, so the closest thing to a second in command. Has all the power to do pretty much whatever he feels like that is within reason.Calzone was directly manipulating Theodora because he found out about her heretical bullshit himself, that's the big plotline for why Kunrad loses the writ it's further expanded on in void shadows with Theodora once scouring the ship for Inquisition spies.
>>553555904>Acolyte (first name) John (last name)I am using that
>>553555902we are RPing low Int character dialog
>>553555985Astra militarum is fine for a formal name but too much of a mouthful for casual conversation.
>>553551546No, it doesn't matter who you are, they're trained to sniff out heresy and Theodora was caught red handed consulting the shimmering glass in the middle of an incursion on the bridge. And the fact that Argenta drew her weapon on a death world archmilitant and won means the Emperor was with her. She blasted Mort before he even deactivated the safety on his weapon, and then also shot Theodora while the look of surprise was still on her face. She was blessed by a miracle.>>553552170>>533728282>>553552327Correct, especially when you consider the fact that you are on Theodora's ship, surrounded by people loyal to her. Not only are you not going to get a fair trial for Theodora's sins, but you're not going to get a fair trial for yourself when she just counter-accuses you of bullshit to cover her own ass. Argenta was dead the nanosecond she discovered Theodora's secret if she didn't act, and she absolutely did the right thing. If Argenta had died in the process, it would still be the right thing. If Mort had won the draw and killed Argenta, it still would have been correct for Argenta to at least try.
>>553555902Whether or not we could legally order Jimmy to perform oral on us.
>>553556121>If I commit crime and get away with it, the Emperor was with meTell it to the judge.
>>553556121>all this cope just not to admin that his angel isn't also a killer
Theodora had all the indicators of criminality, argenta did nothing wrong.
Could Argenta just take over the dynasty? She is a sister after all, and therefore infallible. To oppose her is heresy.
>>553556121Sorry, secondary, but the inquisitons on my side.Argenta did a bad and she not only killed an innocent rogue trader but also an asset of the inquisition.She's going out the airlock for it.
>>553556263The judge is the Emperor.
If owlcat knew how to make a good game argenta would be producing my heir.
>>553556472But but that's heresySisters are always right
>>553556326That's not what I said at all. Argenta absolutely is "a killer", as is every imperial guardsman, adepta sororitas, astartes, etc. No one in the military in 40k is not "a killer". What a strange lateral.What is actually being discussed is whether Argenta's actions regarding Theodora were correct or not, and people who know the lore and know how things work are saying yes. One guy is taking the piss by saying Theodora was innocent. The one said thing is Mort. Not only did he have a family, but he was also literally just a bodyguard doing his job. Theodora may have deserved death, but Mort wasn't the one making the decisions, he was just a guy doing a job for money, and that job is usually just bodyguard work, we have no reason to believe he was a bad guy. He probably didn't even know what the glass was, I would bet. However, the second he moves to defend Theodora, he is defending a heretic from justified execution, so even though we feel bad about it, he stood in the way of justice and had to be killed. Unfortunate.
>>553556504sorry, she's too dumb for that
>If owlcat knew how to make a good game argenta would be producing my heir.
>>553556263>Argenta was the real nigger of Rogue Trader all along
Argenta did nothing wrong because Theodora was an annoying bitch and had it coming.
>>553555904This portrait is so coolI can see why Ra'akhti wants to eat him
>>553556692Not that title still goes to the literal crack smoking nigger.
>>553556692was there ever any doubt?
>>553556636Can you try to escape your autism, and forget about your Act 5 knowledge, and imagine what Argenta's mindset could have been in Act 1She doesn't know about the Necron planet, or any of Theodora's actiivitiesAll she sees is a piece of glass that "reminds her" in some vague way of something she saw once in the hands of some heretics.She can't explain what it is that reminds her, or make any rational accusations. Is it the colour, were there daemons around, were there warp emanations? Apparently not.But she just thinks it doesn't feel right so she acts impulsively on literally nothing.
This is some liberal logic. Argenta was literally right about Theodora being a criminal so she did nothing wrong. Its pretty much a kyle rittenhouse situation.
>>553556904But what if it was the emperor that subconsciously told her to kill Theodora?
>>553557080What it if wasn't?What if she was just dumb?
>>553556904Nah dude she just hid it from everyone until she thought she was going to die because it was actually the right thing to do.Secondaries wouldn't get it.
>female character has low intelligence
>>553557149She isnt sure if you are also a Heretic to. So she did it when she thought you were all going to die because it doesnt matter anymore anyway.
>>553557145It's both, she's a faithful bimbo
>>553556904I already explained to you why her actions were correct without citing the fact that meta knowledge also already tells us she was correct. I have already explained the situation from her perspective and outside observer analysis. Reread this post >>553556121. It wasn't "literally nothing", she obviously manifested a miracle, and recognizing the glass is enough to act, especially given the situation she was then in given that she discovered the secret.I just find it funny that we've already gone over this so many times for months and years, and even in completely clear and foolproof terms like here >>533728282, but some people still don't get it. These people train their whole life to recognize heresy, their instincts are honed, and we know her recognition of the glass matching a chaos artifact is the reason her instincts kicked in, so not only was it not "nothing", but the fact that she manifested a miracles by itself is enough justification as well. Look up what being from a death world means, and then recall that Mort didn't even get his safety off. Argenta was empowered by the Emperor and thus all of her actions were towards the betterment of humanity. If they weren't, the Emperor would not have helped her. It's that simple. Welcome to 40k.
>>553556831>Straight hair>Vibrant purple eyes>Advanced psychic powers (IRL niggers don't even have racism field)>Copes with alcohol, not weed & drugsIdira is simply highly melanated white woman. Entirely possible after 38,000 years of adaptation to non-earth planets
>>553557336idira (the person who grew up on a primitive forsaken world) has high intelligence but not the sister assigned to the studying and historical artifacts branch. Yet again more woke shit from owlcat.
>>553557490Anon, I...
>>553557412>she obviously manifested a miracle,Lmao holy shitSo this is what you have sunk to
>>553557473>not weed & drugsShe literally offers you space crack and space weed.
>>553557490Imagine how dumb Argenta would have been without education.
>>553557412thankfully there's at least one other person here who understands. newbies have a hard time conceptualizing that miracles exist and there is a god who can see the future influencing important events at all times
>>553557734Not everything retarded is a miracleSometimes it's just retarded
>>553554169VTMB
In my headcanon Argenta is stupid, and it wasn't a miracle, she was just luckyAlso Theodora wasn't a heretic in my headcanon, she was operating within the limits of the warrant.
It's been so long since we received a good CRPG
>>553557412Cool wall of text of irrelevant stuff, but it all falls apart when you point out she hesitates in shooting the unsanctioned psyker several times despite clear heretical shit happening, and further hesitates when heretics are dicking around in the future.If you chastise her enough for being an impulsive clown she becomes a sister repentia.
Stygs balance autism has him making the most random nerfs to c tier builds all the time for example tank builds were always low c tier at best and now they are unplayeble (on dominating i dont play the lower difficulties since styg doesnt balance around them and openly admits this), but there are certain things that have been broken S++ tier since 1.0 that he hasn't touched at all and it makes no sense to me. Stealth in underrail is a good example of this.
>>553558327I'll never play it because I'm not Slavic
>>553557585Screencap, nowYou can't just throw accusations like that around
>>553558428Just ask her to come to the bath with you, she offers.
>>553557490And Yrliet - Eldar are supposed to be geniuses IQ-wise compared to average human
>>553558614Thats apart of the humiliation ritual
>>553558327Does he play his own game? I curious what are his go to strats .
>>553558229She follows your orders to not shoot Idira despite Idira being in the process of losing control of her powers and has already summoned deamons multiple times. Idira has proven herself to be a liability and a heretic but Argenta doesn't pull the trigger because it's your call. She clearly wants to, and almost does, but restrains herself. For your sake, not Idira's sake or her own sake. She would have done it if you weren't. The one with authority over Idira was there to say "Idira is my problem, don't kill her". When Argenta discovered Theodora's heresy, Theodora was the highest authority present and Argenta knew what she saw and acted instinctively, on the grounds that she recognized the heretical artifact Theo was holding, and you don't consult something in a time of crisis without intent or thinking it's important, which is valid. You misunderstand the situation if you think they're the same or equivalent. You're now criticizing Argenta for following your orders that you will take responsibility for Idira, which makes her a reasonable person. Killing Theodora was also reasonable. And for the record, Argenta absolutely should put a bullet in the player character's head at certain points in the heretical path, but she doesn't for gameplay handwave purposes because the game sure would be short if she just shot you in the head halfway. This applies to Juimmy and Ulfar as well. There are some unrealistic things in this game for the sake of it being a videogame, but Argenta's backstory with Theodora is not one of them.
>idira defenders dont actually read her dialog or do any of the side companion stuff with herThat explains alot.
aspys will be owlcats best romance
https://youtu.be/__gLIyeQYDU?si=pjWOsRVFasJVBeCG
How many poor would you murder for drukhari dick? How much is justifiable?
Yirlet is just adrukhari in denial
Why is there no Console RPG General?
>>553556681>everyone who disagrees with me is an Indian
>>553559138Time for you to make one
Anon is doing a good job of convincing me that sisterfags are just as annoying as marinefags
>posting basedjaks Literal teenager spotted.
>>553559352there is not a single poster ITT under 37
>>553558698>massive wall of text of headcanonHoly shit anon get a grip.>She follows your orders to not shoot Idira despite Idira being in the process of losing control of her powers and has already summoned deamons multiple times.She could've killed idira moment 1 on spotting her in the prologue, she killed Theodora for being a heretic on intuition so fast no one could react so WHY wouldn't she kill her unsanctioned psyker pet the microsecond she sees her on the deck surrounded by additional heretics.>well that's because gameplay sillyIf you think the shot on Theodora was good there's a pretty high chance you've got a learning disability. Even the ingame inquisition member says it was worthy of punishment.
>>553559140yes
>>553558679after checking his forum, mostly stealth builds, so i guess that explains it.
>>553559498He's being much more patient with you then he has to be and you're insulting him like a child every post anyway. Both of us have already explained to you that her actions had the stamp of approval from the emperor so nothing else matters. he's kind enough to also explain her reasoning in more words but I'm just going to call you a stubborn dipshit who doesn't know how the setting works even when people explain it to you
>>553559408I'm 32
>>553559498It's not headcanon. Argenta is close to shooting Idira and the only thing that stops her is your dialogue option ordering her not to. The option that results in Argenta shooting Idira is....drum roll....the one where you don't say anything and just let her do what she is going to do. Meaning your claim that Argenta arbitrarily doesn't shoot Idira is false. That is actually exactly what she does, unless you speak up and specifically order her not to. Thankfully, I also took a screenshot of that scene, like how I disproved several lies earlier with screenshots.>I wasn't lying, I was just confidently claiming something without checking and happened to be falseThe reason Arhgenta doesn't shoot Idira is because a Rogue Trader, who has the authoirty to break minor rules, has an unsanctioned psyker as part of her rule breaking privilege. Argenta would kill Idira if they met each other out in the wild, but Argenta still follows the chain of command when around the Rogue Trader. Both Theo and you. This is correct for her to do, because she's actually quite reasonable, all things considered and relatively speaking compared to many dogmatic people.
>>553560202he's going to say that doesn't count like how he said the other things that proved him wrong don't count
>>553559098She was very close to joining the mean girls club on cumragNext up they were going to give her a make over>It is so weird to see Yrilet in drukhari armor>Must force Marzipan to wear aeldari armor next, this shit is hilarious
Stop triggering namefag, he's starting to misspell the waifu
It's disturbing that some people waste so much of their time thinking about and discussing Owlc*t's terrible, awful games. They are the worst CRPGs of modern times and not worth it.
>>553560936I enjoy Owlcat games
>ctrl+f yrliet>1 resultunacceptable
>yirlet Argenta is better. If you removed yirlet from the game nothing about the main plot would change
>>553554169Anyone have a clean copy of this art sans text readily available? Internet search has become extreme cancer.
>>553560202I completely forgot that detail. based Sister "Heretic Blaster" Argenta. She's two for two.
>>553559896t. has a learning disabilityArgenta was in the wrong, the game said so itself. But that was written wrong intentionally, yeah?Don't care to argue any further with someone who can't comprehend posthumously identifying Theodora as a heretic doesn't excuse her actions in the past. I've read that autistics have issues with concepts like these so my sincere condolences on the childhood vaccines.And I once more reiterate; the characters entire arc is her being an impulsive shit that you can either hypesquad or rightfully call her actions out and she will seek repentance for being such an embarrassing fuckup.>>553560202Not the scene I'm talking about you autistic retard. Is act 2 the prologue? No.So now that we've established that it's not the prologue lets talk about it for a second - once again she didn't shoot her instantly like she did with Theodora, but long enough for you to get a sentence out.>well thats because off screen you told her not to xd>The reason Arhgenta doesn't shoot Idira is because a Rogue Trader, who has the authoirty to break minor rules, has an unsanctioned psyker as part of her rule breaking privilege.The rogue trader that she clapped moments prior? that one? the rogue trader that got gunned down in a microsecond for being near a supposed heretical object as soon as she entered the room? Then she further went on to the soon to be new rogue trader who was just caught in a group of heretics with an unsanctioned psyker with warp emanations occurring across the ship and proceeded to not instantly slime the literal heretic in front of her?>>553560480Silence, invalid.
>>553561710>you autistic retard.sir this is the CRPG general, only autists play them
>>553561710>killing white, middle-aged mothers is badI'm glad that you agree
>>553561860Autism is a spectrum, and some were blessed with the kind that turn you into rainman without any of the useful talents.
Theodora was very clearly a Heretic based off the fact that she employed idira aka the unsactioned psyker that openly shit talked the imperium and the emperor.
>>553561964Depending on the context the ability to naturally succed any train related check is highly useful.
>>553561194That arm belongs to marazhai
Argenta being incredibly arrogant is like a core character trait of hers. I don't know why you'd pretend she's some shining perfect example of faith.
>>553561710Argenta was not in the wrong, and we know that from the events of the game. She was not in the wrong from her own perspective at the time (explained here >>553557412 and here >>533728282) and she was also not in the wrong using our outside meta knowledge either, because of course we know Theodora actually was a heretic. But it's been explained multiple times why that's not necessary to know. So you're wrong that everyone else around you is just autistic. This has already been explained to you by multiple people, but I shall again, despite your bad attitude.Argenta didn't have reason to suspect Theodora of heresy prior to the discovery that she was a heretic. Theodora had helped her and given her supplies and transportation, so of course Argenta is willing to follow the chain of command and not just blast Idira, a member of Theodora's retinue. Theodora had custody of Idira, and Theodora has a piece of paper that says she can have leeway and minor infractions of the law for the sake of being an effective free agent. Argenta not blasting Idira before the game starts is logical, and you are simply mistaken on this.Later on, you inherit custody of Idira. The same "I can break minor laws" applies to you now. And Argenta has not confirmed you're a heretic yet, so she doesn't shoot you. Her shared experiences with you and Idira make her aware that you two were not in on Theodora's heresy, since you and Idira are both surprised to find her dead, and you're also both surprised to find the glass, and you're also both surprised again when you find more glass in act 1. Argenta doesn't blast you because you are clearly not in on it, but she also doesn't trust you and tell you everything because you're on unknown factor, and you're Theodora's family which she says makes you potentially guilty by association (but not for sure, hence her giving you a chance). So now there's no plot holes in her not shooting Idira later either, you're just wrong again.
Aregenta was literally chosen to inherit the will of saint argenta, she is a perfect example of faith.
>>553562330I told you he was going to say that instance of Argenta shooting Idira doesn't count lmao. What a predictable piece of shit. you have vastly more patience than he deserves
>>553562330>of course we know Theodora actually was a hereticonly as much as calcazar or heinrix is
Every time Idira was mean to Argenta I cried
>>553562772>thinking a lowley rogue trader has the same leeway as a inquisition member
>>553562992Calcazar said it's heresy if he lost, and he lost :^)
>idira>talking at all> let alone talking to argenta She was shot out the airlock by anyone with half a brain. Im not having a unsactioned psyker on my ship.
>>553563043The vast majority of players don't finish the game, so he actually won.
>>553563147the vast majority of humans never played it, so none of it ever happened
>>553563139You're stuck in a loop now
>>553562330Christ I genuinely do not know if I want to respond in full to you.It's like I'm speaking to chatGPT after a post has been ran through different language translations several times.The moment I read >Theodora had custody of Idira, and Theodora has a piece of paper that says she can have leeway and minor infractions of the law for the sake of being an effective free agentI knew I was speaking to someone of low cognitive capabilities. Someone who genuinely cannot comprehend what is being said here and is utilizing rote memorization mimicing an actual human conversation like some sort of alien who learned English by reading the lexicanum.Everything I said was completely ignored and then you spurred up a wall of text of completely irrelevant information again acting off of keywords with no comprehension of the meaning behind them.I'm going to stop here because I am all but convinced you unironically disabled.>>553562631Except I did speak on it you stupid fuck, I was specifically referencing when you first meet Argenta when you had Idira in the party.
If Idira was in the room with Theodora when Argenta found them, Idira would be dead, because Argenta would shoot all three. The only thing stopping Argenta from shooting Idira before that point is that she was in Theodora's retinue, and at that point Argenta didn't know Theodora was a heretic so was putting up with Idira's existence. Because she's reasonable. But don't confuse that with Argenta not wanting to kill Idira, she simply stopped herself from doing for the sake of playing nice with a Rogue Trader who is allowed to do that minor transgression against the law.This explanation is the exact, the exact, same explanation for why she doesn't kill Idira after Argenta killed Theodora. You're the rogue trader now, and the same privileges apply to you. Argenta doesn't have hard proof that you're a heretic yet, and she doesn't have proof that Idira was in cahoots with Theodora because Idira is just as surprised as anyone else with the glass discovery.Argenta does take it upon herself to shoot Idira when Argenta sees further proof that Idira actually is a full blown heretic getting hundreds of people killed and inviting deamons on board the ship, Argenta righteously loses her patience and begins to shoot Idira, her finger is literally on the trigger, and she does exactly that if the Rogue Trader doesn't use their authoirty to intervene.it was a flat out lie to say Argents doesn't shoot Idira. I just explained why Argenta doesn't shoot Idira before the prologue, and I just explained why Argenta doesn't shoot Idira after the prologue. But it's in Argenta's desire to shoot Idira, and Argenta shoots people who cross certain lines into heresy as we saw with Theo and we see with Idira with the deamons, but Argenta also can be called to stop by someone with authority. It's all consistent, and makes sense both within the setting and within the events of the game. There is nothing wrong with Owlcat's writing in any of this, and it's not a contradictory character.
>stuck in a loopNo, everyone is just tired of owlcats shitty negro companions. The numbers prove it.
>>553563365That answers your question of why Argenta didn't shoot Idira before the prologue. Which is the question you asked. You are mistaken as to what people have even responded to. Instead of wasting half a post just insulting everyone, how about you actually read, because your question of why Argenta didn't shoot Idira was literally answered. Please have basic reading comprehension, while you constantly insult everyone else around you like a child and then ironically are the only one with reading comprehension issues. Acting petulant while you're the one who is wrong is a major personality flaw.
>>553558743I played the game through before any DLC
>>553563365Nta, but you didn't have to dedicate an entire post to pure ad hominem, that's just bad form.
>>553563408thanks for trying to explain it to him but if he goes off calling me and you a retard instead of reading then you can't help him. youve explained it perfectly fine for any normal person interested in the topic later to read
...at least you're debating a game instead of arguing about waifus directly
If Idira was futa you'd all feel differently.
>>553564063Don't worry he'll be back to argue about the ethics of women speaking to people other than you later.
>>553563606No, anon, you didn't answer anything asked originally.You wrote up a bunch of irrelevant shit because you have difficulty conveying your ideas so your addled solution is to just write up entire paragraphs of nothingness and expect someone to wade through a mountain of shit for a really stupid conclusion.You had to write a second post to even touch upon one of them, and ignoring the insane headcanon the one thing you touch on is outright wrong because you in fact were NOT the rogue trader when she meets you in the prologue but one of two candidates.As I said I'm stopping here - I'm afraid it's terminal.>>553564003You are a retard though, and I'm entirely convinced of it because you think this guys inane babbling is both coherent and correct entirely because he agrees with you.Don't worry, you, him, and Argenta can all be retards together.
If you made idira a sexy big titty asian the game would improve
>>553555508Jimmy has been through the process of getting sanctioned and has been unsanctioned himself at some point, he understands what it's like, and he understands Idira is not a bad person or someone who would easily fall to it's risks. Plus, you are the Rogue Trader and she is part of your retinue. Maybe if he had caught her when she was still the aide to a planetary governor he could have forced her to get on the black ships, but now it's a bit over his head unless you let him.
>>553554346Depends on him being cute under the helmet.
>>553564486>sexy big titty asianWe already got that in a better game, albeit ARPG
>>553564565>Jimmy cucking femcel trader with Idira
>>553563890I didn't, but I did.I considered writing up to try and explain my position even further; but why? He clearly can't comprehend what's being wrote and is going on tism fueled tirades completely ignoring the point.It genuinely is like speaking to someone who's talking through an AI chatbot and he should feel bad about it.
>>553564660Veilguard is so uncanny it makes me physically cringe.
>Henrix >even touching idira
>>553564772Now that's what I call a black ship.
>>553564827>Me rowe you rong time?
>>553564457Don't be a hypocrite ignoring what people say while complaining about people not addressing everything. What you asked is directly answered in this post >>553563408. That contains why Argenta didn't shoot Idira before you meet, and it contains why Argenta didn't shoot Idira after you met. It also contains why Argenta didn't shoot Idira during the prologue itself, which is is literally in this post >>553562330 despite your lie that that was never answered. The direct quote is "since you and Idira are both surprised to find her dead, and you're also both surprised to find the glass". It's not my job to repeat things and spoonfeed you direct quotes just because you have poor reading comprehension combined with a bad attitude. You just lied to my face claiming I didn't answer all three of why Argenta didn't kill Idira before the prologue, during the prologue, and after the prologue, so I'm curious if you'll even apologize for being wrong when the direct quote of me doing this is pasted to you.And speaking of things you never addressed, there's also this very important aspect of this scene that you never addressed >>553557412.There is literally zero things I haven't addressed that you have asked, and I just listed two things you failed to address that I explained. Yet you are the one who complained about this. You have been wrong at every single turn and you are guilty of the very things you're making a melodramatic show of complaining about. Instead of just insulting you, I write out the answer again and link the previous answer and prove it to you and prove you wrong when you claim it was never said, instead of empty words just calling everyone names like you're doing.
>>553557661who is dis hotttttie pic rel?
If Idira has a million fans, then I am one of them.If Idira has ten fans, then I am one of them.If Idira has only one fan then that is me.If Idira has no fans, that means I (and Vigdis) are no longer in space.If the galaxy is against Idira, then I LET THE GALAXY BURN
>>553564003Some people are confidently wrong and adamantly stubborn about it. I have offered an answer to every question he asked and even re-answered some of them multiple times. It's no skin off my back if someone doesn't understand how the game works, I'm here to have a good time and discuss a game I love that is in a franchise I've been playing for almost 20 years. I can tell people how things work in 40k, and past that it's out of my hands. It's whatever.>>553555508It's not, for the same reason Ulfar and Argenta not killing her isn't. Idira is the property of a Rogue Trader, and a Rogue Trader has permission to break some of the more common and mundane rules of the Imperium. If Idira mostly keeps herslef in line and isn't obviously chanting heretical shit, then she is protected by your authority. Jimmy is not under your authority and has no obligation to follow your orders, but he still respects the office of Rogue Trader and wants to be cooperative rather than antagonistic. You can both be antagonistic towards each other and cause various problems for each other, but he is a reasonable man and knows it's easier to just abide the existence of minor transgressions like Idira for the bigger picture. The game takes place in your area of space so he understands the give and take nature of your relationship. A super dogmatic zealot perhaps would make a huge stink about Idira and refuse to work with you until she's sanctioned or some other nonsense, but Jimmy is a reasonable man.Similarly, Astartes are generally opposed to heresy as well and Wolves in particular don't like witches, but Ulfar is a guest and is using you for transportation, so he abides your eccentricities like an unsantioned psyker.If Idira said "FOR KHORNE" and painted the 8 pointed star on the walls of her bunk, they would shoot her. But if she seems relatively normal they abide her for the sake of the warrant.Them not killing her when she summons deamons is a bit of a stretch however.
>>553565213>don't be a hypocriteI'm going to be honest I'm not reading anymore of your posts entirely because they're massive walls of text and your previous ones were largely both irrelevant and there was nothing to argue against, you almost exclusively argued against things not said.You need to consider remedial writing courses if you can't make your posts anymore concise while ultimately saying nothing.>>553565789>Some people are confidently wrong and adamantly stubborn about it.Yeah, like you :)
>>553565868he has spent literal, I shit you not, literal days spamming these walls of texts before until you eventually stop replying so he decide he's correctthank you for learning
>>553565868nta all you did was insult us and claim he didn't say things he did say and he even linked you where he said it. everything he said about the game and the lore checks out. now you're trying to dip when what you claimed doesn't exist can be linked directly to. you really are a fag and worse than that youre wrong and you know it
What's the best spell ever in CRPGs?
>dolly bad and incel fantasyhow do you argue against this?
>>553565868>>553565789you're both wrong
>>553566271BG2 Project Image
>>553565789I get that her existing at all is fine as part of you being a rogue trader but the entire heretic route makes no sense. it's so shitty to write that everyone just laughs and says silly rogue trader what a joker when you say outright heretical shit. the game would be better if it didn't try to pretend theres a heretic route
>>553566295just let someone else write the romances he just seems too uncomfortable doing so himself
>>553566491Right. Your warrant protects small things like having an unsanctioned psyker or a cooperative xenos mercenary, but if you paint chaos symbols on the wall or start letting a drukhari influence policy on your ship/dynasty then someone absolutely would intervene. Some of the shit you can do in the game is just handwave sillyness for the sake of a videogame. The game crosses the line in several places past what your warrant would reasonably protect you. Even though it does protect you for some of it.Whether or not Rogue Trader would be a better game in the literal sense if it just didn't have any heretic route is something we've talked about. Sometimes not having it all can be better than half assing it, or including it in ways where it doesn't make sense or feels unrealistic. Hard to say. I think it would have been better if it existed, but more like a spy or subterfuge where you're pretending to be loyal. My suspension of disbelief ends somewhere around the time you decorate the ship with chaos artifacts and cages and stuff.But a story about lying and subterfuge and then you surprise everyone would have been great.
>>553566210Sure, everything he said checked out.Because when you ask your favorite chat program to assemble random factoids about the game into technically legible sentences they're true.But ultimately his big points were headcanon shit.Señor Jimstrix agrees she'd be tried for it >>553555574 and the game reinforces that she acted hastily and she doubted her actions after, felt ashamed and afraid of reprisal. You know the things sisters of battle are well known for when they smite heretics.
>>553559235>sisterfagsI'm a sisterfag and have been one for years, and I don't mind Argenta being wrong. Being impulsive and overzealous is a trait in many Sisters, that's why they have Dominion squads and doublecheck every sister who asks to be demoted to Repentia - because there's an actual tendency among the more hotblooded to seek extreme atonement for petty reasons.
owlcat writers in the chat tonight
I think Larry and Kroot should have been in Rogue Trader and Kibellah and Solomorne should have been in Dark Heresy.
>>553567131Your premise about Jimmy is faulty. He says she would be tried, not that she would be found guilty. You're literally misrepresenting what he actually said by claiming he "agrees with me". He actually doesn't say what he thinks the verdict should be. More dishonesty. On top of that, he even says "given the circumstance...", meaning he knows that the circumstances included her having reason to shoot Theodora. A court examining the case would also be an in-universe court, meaning the understand the importance of faith and how faith guides the actions of the faithful. Argenta's intuition, supported by the facts of the scene like the heretical artifact, guided her true. Many in the 40k universe would say that's simply faith doing its job. Again, you lack understanding of how these people think.You're also incorrect regarding her feelings afterward. You are again misrepresenting character's words. What she actually does is withhold the truth from you because she doesn't know if you can be trusted. Because you are Theodora's heir and thus under suspicion, but she didn't have proof so she holds onto killing you or trusting you until further evidence to either arises. When she does decide she likes you and tells you what she did, she's not shameful. You're outright lying about that. She says she couldn't trust you. If you say "Yeah Theodora was a heretic, we know that, you did the right thing" Argenta is quite resolute and says she's glad you understand. Not disagreement because she feels bad, she's glad you agree. You're trying to lie to someone who has played the game more than you.You have misrepresented Jimmy's words, you have misrepresented Argenta's words, and you also still have several things that you were shown to be lying about still from this post where things you claim don't exist can actually be directly linked to >>553565213. Yet you're still insulting people while doing these things.
Is there any reason to NOT combine my spellbooks as a pure wizard lich in WotR?
>>553567761>He says she would be tried, not that she would be found guilty.There's no reason for a trial if there is no crime. There is no reason for Jimothy to say that Argentina SHOULD be tried if he doesn't think she's completely innocent. If he thought her actions were harsh but justified, he would have said so.
>>553568261>There's no reason for a trial if there is no crime.huh? The point of a trial is to determine whether the crime happened or not
>>553568261>There's no reason for a trial if there is no crime.This is literally not how the law works, both in real life and in the game. If you are found not guilty, it's because the judge and/or jury have decided there was no crime committed. Whether or not a crime has been committed is what is decided in court. It's not the other way around. You are genuinely so ignorant it hurts.
>>553567761I'm still not reading the walls of text bro.@grok help me shorten my posts>>553566295Kind of agree with him. I'm not a big fan of romances in games because they're not particularly done well or believable really.If they were all gone tomorrow it wouldn't affect much.
>Argenta sees Theodora with a shiny rock >Shoots immediately, consequences be damned, rogue trader or not>Argenta sees you (heir to the supposed heretic she has killed) employing Idira and xenos>"Well uuuuh I can't just kill people with no evidence and they probably won't like me if I killed them..." *hides in her room and anally masturbates with metal dildo*
>>553568515>Ultra short Zoomer version:You’re twisting the facts.Jimmy said she’d be tried, not found guilty.40k courts care about faith — Argenta followed hers and was right.Argenta isn’t ashamed; she just didn’t trust you at first.When she tells you, she’s confident and glad you agree.You’re misquoting people and denying stuff that’s already been proven.
>>553567761when someone is so beaten they resort to the "i'm not even reading anymore lalalala" then you can accept their concession. especially in a case like this where youve been exhaustive in explaining so many things in detail and he just shitposts or insults in response for a few responses now. it's the classic lost but doesn't want to admit it or compromise shitposting
How is Atom RPG & Trudograd? How loong are they, should I play both & QRD on the general premise, seems to me like a Fallout like on first glance, but what are the big differences compared to Fallout2 system?
>>553568489But if Argenta is innocent why ask for a trial at all? Just forgive and forget. Laws in the Imperium are for the masses, not for nobles or Inquisitors.
I want owlcatters to leave
>>553568725>40k courts care about faithProofs?
>>553568934you don't determine innocence in court
>>553559408I turned 41 today
>>553569284LMAO LOOK AT DIS UNC
>>553569284Life casts Ray of Enfeeblement at Anon
>>553564772Jimmy would never.
>>553568934Read the screenshot again anon. He literally says that you, the noble and liege of this sector of space, being present can just decide the verdict yourself. You're just saying the second half of what he said.The point is that the original claim that Jimmy agrees with Argenta being guilty is false, because he doesn't actually say that. He just says that normally someone would face trial for such a thing. Not that he thinks it would or should be a guilty verdict in that trial. It was someone lying about what he said and I pointed that out. I did not say that the Rogue Trader stepping in and just deciding without a trial is inappropriate. It's part of your office.And for the record, there is a very high chance that Argenta would be found not guilty if a formal trial were to be held. The fact that she was guided by faith is a huge plus, and the fact that she was right is a huge plus. There are actually cases where killing someone on suspicion is fine as long as you're right in 40k, and in fact, such an exact thing is actually in Dark Heresy. Epione gassed an entire noble family, and the investigators after the fact found heretical literature in the estate she gassed, and so they just said her actions were "preemptive" and gave her approval. It's how things work. Argenta would get a medal for killing Theodora.
It's funny that despite all the schizo arguments here in the actual game almost everyone gets along with Idira by the end
>>553569521I already lifted today.Take care of your body, eat well, don't neglect your strength and try to enjoy life and 40 years don't feel so bad.
>>553569595>Epione gassed an entire noble family,>Dr. Mengele (Netflix version)
>>553569756It's not canonIt doesn't countShut up
I feel like I'm being converted into a mapcrawler, there's a visceral sense of enjoyment of slowly uncovering the map, slicing it into sections, clearing them one by one and saving the last delicious spot of darkness in the center of the map and then issuing a move command to uncover it.
>>553569756Not really, quite a few of us probably get rid of her for the sake of the crew she otherwise endangers. We're not as young as >>553569284 , we don't have to feel bad about missing content.
Why are we calling Heinrix Jimmy? Am I missing something?
>>553569595>He just says that normally someone would face trial for such a thing.He says I WOULD RECOMMEND [SHE FACES A TRIAL]. Why the fuck would he recommend that if he thinks she's innocent? If he thought Argentina is right he would RECOMMEND you just let her go since it's in your authority to do so.
>>553570416jimmy hendrix
Idira & ArgentaArgenta & Idira
>>553570194>for the sake of the crew she otherwise endangersShe endangers the crew no more than schizophrenic failed sororitas does.
>>553570194>UMMMMMM BUT IN MY GAMEautism
>>553570416Because his jimmies are rustled.
>>553570194>Not reallyYes really. Read the dialogues.
>>553570527IdirentaArgentira
>>553570552lol, maybe a BIT more than trigger happy argenta
>>553570701>ArgentiraI knew they weren't white!
>>553570527Should have called my ship the love boat, or the happy shipper or something like thatI kept the original nameMaybe a new hope or heresy reloaded v.2.0
>>553566556They tried it in MotB, but then they've decided that embedding their antiromance stance into their corporate culture is more sustainable in the long run. Little did they know...
>>553556121>>553556636>>553558698>>553560202>>553562330>>553563408>>553565213>>553565789>>553567761>>553569595Holy shit. Don't you have 2 business to run Mintharatranny? So you are done having fits about Shadowheart now Idira is your new autism target?Why do you hate women so much?
>>553570442You're wrong again on basic reading comprehension anon. He says "in any other case" he would recommend a trial, which means he doesn't recommend it in this case. Saying "in any other instance I would..." means you're not doing it this time. Go to the screenshot and reading it from top to bottom this time. You've been wrong on what he actually said twice now.He continues on to say "given the circumstances...", meaning he himself has weighed the evidence of the circumstance and has come to his own conclusion, and has deemed it not necessary to hold a trial, and just passes it to you directly. Meaning his recommendation it NOT a trial in this case.It's actually crazy how you have consistently twisted what he said. You have now twisted what he said 4 different times when combined with the first two covered in this post >>553569595. He didn't agree she's guilty like your original claim, he didn't advise a trial like you claimed, he literally advised the opposite, and saying that the circumstances of this case are such that it's not necessary to hold trial means he doesn't want to waste time on it you can handle it. A pretty simple line a text and you somehow managed to get it wrong 4 different ways.
>>553571297I take a walk every day, I manage two small businesses, I run games at my local tabletop game store multiple times a week, and I cook for myself and do regular yardwork and all the usual homeowner stuff as well. You can do whatever you want with proper time management. Lots of people just unknowingly waste lots of time throughout the day, often in the form of commuting in a car or waiting, or on the cell phone.
>>553570823>I kept the original nameWhat was her original name?
>>553571297>You're wrong again on basic reading comprehension anon. He says "in any other case" he would recommend a trial, which means he doesn't recommend it in this case.Good FUCKING lordI don't want to get caught in arguing with the autist but the circumstances here are that you can't have a trial. Because you're stuck in space rape hell.
>>553564578Depends on how well he is written.
>>553568760They're both good, basic premise is fallout but Russia and you play as what amounts to secret government spook that a lot of people don't even think exists. Difference in it and fallout is that Atom's world arguably has stabilized more compared to fallout's, there's less ruins and shit. Sure you have the island of not STALKER but overall there's a bit more civilization in the main cities. Combat is a bit of a fucking clunky mess sometimes, I've had characters get stuck in the environment a few times and it overall doesn't feel too snappy. It's better in Grand though. If you plan to play the sequel, be sure to at least get the old man companion in 1 and take him to the final encounter, as he shows up in Grand as a character you can recruit and he actually has some really fun banter
>>553569284Happy birthday anon
Hey Hey Mintharafag I got the repentia ending for Argenta. She died as a failure on the battlefield. Idira died too. Its tragic yuri.
>>553571297>He says "in any other case" he would recommend a trialWhy would he recommend that if he thinks she didn't no anything wrong? Why? For what reason? You're once again dodging the question. Answer it.>He continues on to say "given the circumstances..."Yes, circumstances being that you physically cannot hold a trial, and RT is present. Jim is not saying Argenta is innocent. If he thought so, he would have said it outright. Because as a member of the Inquisition, he has full authority, expertise and right to SAY that. He's not some lawyer who needs to be evasive.
>>553569872>Dr. Mengele (Netflix version)Will Reddit seethe when they catch it?
>>553571932>I got the repentia ending for Argenta. She died as a failure on the battlefieldWait, she really dies if she goes repentia? Lol.
>>553569284happy birthday unc
>>553572252Yes, Argenta gets critiqued once and gives up
>>553571850>>553572313Thanks, anons. Play some good roles today.
>>553569284I turned 30 a few days ago. Doesn't a January birthday suck
>>553572389Absolute failure of a sister to the very end.
Argenta should have had a Khorne route romancetruth be told.
>>553572592I like having birthday in January. Happy belated Birthday to you, anon!>>553572641Thank you, anon
>>553572682Lame.
>>553572125He's referring to cases of people killing Rogue Traders. In other cases, he would host a trial. But he specifically says in any other case he would, meaning he wouldn't for this case. That is what that phrase means. He does in general think killing Rogue Traders is worthy of a trial, but he knows the details of this case already and so says he would do that in any other case, not this one. Because we know he's privy to the fact that Argenta was right, was acting quickly due to the attack on the ship, is a trained heresy attack dog not just a random person, and had the connection to Salis Prime to actually recognize that chaos artifact instead of some random hunch. There are actually a lot of reasons why he would say this case doesn't require a trial, he knows the circumstance and that she's right and so he recommends you not have a trial. He's recommending against it, I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand.He actually can't say she's innocent or guilty, because that's your job. He can recommend one of those to you. He is saying that he will accept your verdict either way, whether you want to kill her for killing your relative or forgive her because your relative was a heretic, both are fine with him. But him actually recommending against a trial is not him implying she's guilty or innocent. He's just leaving it up to you. You're trying really hard to twist it into saying he thinks she's guilty, which is funny because at first you said he thinks she's guilty which is why he's saying he would have a trial, you mistakenly thought that recommending a trial means he thinks she's guilty which is false by itself, then when it was brought to your attention that your reading comprehension was off and he's actually advising against a trial, now you're trying to say him not giving his own answer means he thinks she's not innocent, which is also false.
>>553572861they already did that with Winterscale
>>553568760Atom is insufferably written. It's Fallout but with more annoying heavy handed meme references you probably won't even get because you're not Russian.
>>553573009What else is your triggers for RT. I know sparing Marzipan is one. What else so I can talk about?
>>553568725>zoomer editionA+ anon, well done.>Jimmy said she’d be tried, not found guilty.Crazy how he doesn't give a recommendation she did nothing wrong, eh?>When she tells you, she’s confident and glad you agree.Because you picked the agree option dilbert. But upon going through all dialogues the only regret is killing the arch militant it seems - my mistake; So I concede that Argenta isn’t ashamed but admits she acted on impulse.Based retard through and through.The ashamed bit is when you scold her for being tardmaxxed enough that she becomes a repentia.
Argenta is a FAILURE and should be TRIED and found GUILTY for killing Theodora
>you accidentally shitposted so hard that Mintharafag is writing a short novel on a basket weaving board
>>553573357sprinkling a bunch of insults at people even in a post where you have to admit you were wrong is a shitty personality. I'm not even the person who said that last time
>>553572596Argenta was never cut out to be a SoB.
>>553573482Thanks for your input, Solomorne
>>553573595I'm sorry I insulted your digital wife for being stupid, anon.Unless you meant me calling him dilbert in which you can cry harder.
Argenta tardmaxxing until she becomes Repentia
>>553573009This dude gets stuck on specific phrasing, takes it at complete face value, and then gets caught in a loop defending his completely literal misunderstanding. An amazing feat of autism.
tldr on autism debate itt?
no romance, no buy
Sister Crayon-Eater
>>553573925Autismo waifufag hates when people are mean to his waifu Argenta
>>553573925Pick your side anon
>>553573654What did Solomourne say in Cumrag? He's Arbites, he should have given his input.
>>553573925black library novel defending Argenta as flawless and infallible and Idira is bad because of a bunch of inane reasons I shan't read through that are entirely unrelated to Argenta being the same character lord inquisitor autismus plays in every game ever made and also Idira being black
>>553573595Hey, at least he admitted he was wrong. That by itself is progress.Being so childish that you can't write a sentence without calling people names is one thing, but looking it up when I told him how he was wrong to discover for himself that he was indeed wrong, and then admitting that, are two things that most 4channers never do. Most people won't look it up, and most people won't admit it if they do. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm proud of him.>>553573868It's not a misunderstanding. Jimmy is advising against having a trial, and that part is separate and before the part where he says circumstances prevent hosting a trial anyway. "In any other case I would..." means you're not doing what you normally do in this current case. This is the thing you/the anon I was responding to got wrong at first. So he/you pivoted to saying "well he didn't explicitly advise that she's innocent, he didn't say anything either way, so I'm going to interpret that as him saying she's guilty" which is fundamentally illogical.
Are there anons here who seriously won't play an RPG if it doesn't have romance or waifus?
>>553574234Is that what you meant by proper time management. Being autistic on 4chan
>>553574143I haven't brought both of them together since both are soldiers. Solomonre is pretty frazzled in Cumrag, I don't know if he cares at that point. Don't quote me on that though.
>>553573009>He's referring to cases of people killing Rogue Traders. In other cases, he would host a trial.Why does he recommend that Argenta faces a trial if he thinks she's innocent? Why does he feel the need to say that? If he's so sure she did nothing wrong, why doesn't he say>She was right to do it, but you do youIt's the third time you've dodged the question now.
>>553574234If you had to take a shit in the woods and I recommended you just go behind a tree and squat that's not me suggesting that you should always shit in the woods.
>>553574426NTA but I didn't bring Solomorne to Commorragh because I don't want his dog to get deldar'dPets don't deserve shit like that
>>553573958But she always saves the tastiest ones for you...
>>553574143Hot off the presses. t. toybox confessioner>>553574257Here? Probably not. But I wouldn't doubt 4chan as a whole has more than a few who hold that opinion.
>>553573605I mean, there's a reason she was shuffled off to Pronatus.
I have to check out my other companionsDidn't realize I was radicalizing my retinue
>>553574890How will the namefag cope now that the lawman said shes in the wrong.
>>553575020Sadly I'm pretty sure only Kibellah can be influenced like this
I guarantee you, if Argenta was black, this very same autist that writes essays about how she's innocent would write essays about how she needs to be executed the moment you meet her.
>>553574573He doesn't recommend a trial. I've said this half a dozen times across multiple posts. "In any other case I would..." means that in other cases he does X, but in this case he's not doing X. I'm not dodging the question and I never have dodged the question, you don't understand what he's even saying and you keep getting this wrong. He's advising AGAINST a trial anon. Read. I did answer this already and explained this multiple times, so don't lie and say I didn't.As to his thoughts on whether she's innocent or not, I already covered that in this post >>553573009. I haven't dodged that question ever, and I'm even able to link the most recent time I answered it, so it's not even an effective lie to say I haven't if it's right there to link.
Next run I’m leaving Argenta in Commorragh as the trial result. Bitch deserves it.
>>553574629Its not really clear what was done to Gelato but yeah. It really gets at Solormonre.
>>553575097>How will the namefag cope>Solomorne is black so he's not a true lawman
>>553574257It’s unlikely I will, unless it’s a polished experience in a complex yet intuitive system.Few RPGs have a MSQ on par with Planescape: Torment (don’t @me contrarian retards) and relationships are the basis for most of the interesting dialogue and characterization opportunities we get otherwise. I can count on one hand the number of engaging platonic relationships I’ve experienced in all of gaming, much less cRPGs. So their options are to write better games, better platonic relationship events, or get by without my money.
>>553574257I literally never gave a damn about romance in rpgs, shit is so basic and awkward.You usually get like 5 romantic 1min interactions throughout the game at most and terribly animated awkward sex scene or more often a fade to black. Looking at boobies and asses while my party fidgeting around during dialog is more than enough. Even BG3 going high production on them and sex still is retarded looking and lame.
>>553575280Besides the Repentia ending and the hole abyss thing she has no bad deaths. Lame as shit
>>553575193with the same facial features? He likes Minthara and nobody is gonna fucking argue that she is prettier than Idira
>>553574890Saved
>>553575319kek
>>553575194>He doesn't recommend a trial>"I would recommend that the Sister of Battle be tried before the high court."He does. He literally tells you she should face a trial, it's just that it's fucking impossible right now so RT should judge her instead.Once again you fail to answer the simple question as to why he even raises the matter of trial if he thinks she's innocent. Why doesn't he just say that?
>Mintharafag is making /crpgg/ hate ArgentaTruly amazing what waifutardism is capable of
>>553575160Yeah, real missed opportunity not letting you convert your companions to your ideology.I get that'd be a bigger pain in the ass for writing but it's not like most companions have shit for a story anyways, you wouldn't even need to change the main path much just a few alternate dialogues inserted.>>553575405Preach.The only time I felt a """romance""" was done alright was the mass effects where it's hooking up before you go on various suicide missions.You'd have to have a romance baked into the plot and have it go on a decently long time for it to even begin to feel natural and ain't no one doing that.
>>553573925It's just Seranafag/Mintharafag/Lanafag/Koob sperging like normal. >>553575420Drow Argenta
>>553575420Nah, proper black. Hell, even Idira level would suffice. We'd have monologues about how Blackgenta endangers the fireteam with her reckless behaviour and how her shooting Theodora is just a sign that you can never trust her.
>>553574890>I believe you saw what you say you saw>meaning he acknowledges that Theodora was indeed a heretic>but then just goes on to say you shouldn't have executed a heretic in a situation where there was no due process possible and she would have gotten away if you didn't fireI generally like Solomorne and I tend to side with him and/or his institution in general, but his view that you know Theodora is guilty but you shouldn't have killed her, you should have let her get away and let yourself die in the process as well, doesn't seem logical. If Argenta didn't kill Theodora, Theodora would have killed Argenta, and worse than that, the secret would have died with Argenta. I respectfully disagree with Solomorne. I think it was right to take matters into your own hands here, given that you had pretty good proof given your recognition of the artifact from your prior encounter, and the knowledge that if you don't do it, you die and the secret dies with you. And I accept that he would call that vigilantism and that people don't get to take the law into their own hands. I get it. I don't think he's coming from a bad place, but the Emperor put her there to discover the secret for a reason, it feels like a waste to just twiddle your thumbs because a lawyer wouldn't like what you did. The Emperor wrote the Lex, but He also guides his faithful and put her in that room for a reason. So which do you want to follow?
>>553575924Argenta still would execute you on sight. She saw your sister porn collection
>>553574890the Lex has spokenhe is never to post again
>>553575684Nah, I love Argenta. Some schizo ranting about her being le innocent won't change that.As Lelianafag, I've endured worse
>>553575924>doesn't seem logical.And why do we suddenly care about logic? It's all about faith and dogma, just like you've insisted before.
Marzipan has more art with Argenta than Idira
>>553576062>I've endured worseWhat happenedHe loves Leliana lucky you, I don't recall him in the decade old /dag/ though
>>553575634Anon. I'm going to link every post in which I have already explained what the phrasing "In any OTHER case I would..." means>>553574234>>553573009>>553571297>>553569595>>553567761I am not dodging the question, you are not understanding what this phrase means.Read the first paragraph of this post: >>553575194.Read the second half of this post: >>553574234.Read the first paragraph of this post: >>553573009Now that we've read his phrasing several times and we understand that he's advising against a trial in this case, we can move on to the second part.Current circumstance makes a trial impossible, but that is said after and separately from the first part. He has already established that in every other case he would have a trial but not this one, then he later goes on to say circumstances being what they are means you also can't have a trial at the moment.As for whether or not she's guilty, I have already addressed that: >>553573009. It's weird that you keep claiming I haven't answered this, and every time you claim that I literally just link the post where I answered it. We can do this as many times as you like, but it seems pointless. You could instead just read the post I linked in response to Jimmy's feelings on Argenta and respond properly for a change, instead of claiming that post you're responding to...doesn't exist. So the link is...fabricated. Right.
>>553576665I love my NICE friend Idira, she is so KIND, AGREEABLE, & AMICABLE.
>>553574890How boring.
argenta owes me sex
>>553576665>I'm going to link every post in which I have... completely dodged a very simple question that can be answered in two sentences max.Why does Jim think there needs to be a trial at all, hypothetical or not, if he thinks Argenta was right? He's an agent of the Inquisition. He can simply state directly that Argentina was right, no need to speak about trial at all. So why does he mention it, then? >instead of claiming that post you're responding to...doesn't exist. So the link is...fabricated. Right.What the fuck are you even babbling about?
>>553576957Cybermastiff...
>>553554169>//crpgg/What did you add 2 slashes, its bothering me
Lord Captain... the voices are telling me someth-... no... no Lord Captain, don't ask him about Argenta... we'll never be able to escape... never
/crpgg/, introduce me.
>>553576665he already said he's pretending not to read. he's literally acting stupid on purpose for responses
>>553577291Literally answered your first question in the first part of this post >>553573009. Which for the record was one of the ones I just included, which means you're not reading where I told you the information is already present, you're just ignoring me linking you the answer and saying I didn't answer it. Read the post anon. I demonstrated that I answered this question several times, but now I'll just give you one to focus on and read. Start at the top and read the words on your screen. I believe in you. This one is especially easy, because it literally starts with "He is referring to cases..." so there's no confusion on where to begin, or what topic will be covered. Super easy, all spoonfed to you. There's no way you're going to ignore this again and claim I didn't answer again. Not after spoonfeeding you like this, so let's see.
>>553578349You need to you use a LLM of your choosing to summarize your writings for him.
>>553578349Don't make your ugly tranny RT touch Jimmy either please
>>553576665Why was he saying in any other case. What was special about this moment for him to not recommend a trial.
Argenta won’t fuck you
Idira gets a special ending with Argenta but not your RT, notice this?
>>553578349Oh christ you think in any other case is referring to literal legal cases. Lmao. Oh my fucking god I get why you’re so confused now.
>>553578508>What was special about this moment for him to not recommend a trial.Got you covered right here >>553573009. jimmy's thoughts on this case in particular is different from other hypothetical cases are covered in that post.Sure is nice this website has everything easily linkable.
thoughts on genderbending your dollies?
Lots of people just unknowingly waste lots of time throughout the day, often in the form of samefagging on a video game board.
>>553578889Has he ever used a male MC?
I love being cucked so much bros
>>553578956Unknowingly samefagging. Schröedinger’s samefag
>>553578889Good lord, he's actually completely mindbroken. And here I was taking him seriously.
>>553578976No he just mods straight waifus into liking pussy
>>553578889I'll still play with them as if I'm playing with a male character anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
>>553578756Buddy, the phase “In any other case” is essentially saying that in any situation other than the one they’re currently in, he would recommend a trial. In this specific instance they can’t have one, so he’s suggesting you do something else.
>>553579406why can’t it just wait until we’re out of hell like with Yrliet
Playing rogue trader as a female was a huge mistake, having jimmy coming down onto you was fucking weird
>>553579635Because the writers forgot about her character post-cumrag.
>>553579837Thanks Owlcat
>>553579637He doesnt come onto you. He just gives you a look
>Solasta has Warp travelGuess what kind of dimension they are traveling through.
Playing as a woman? In a video game? Pretty fucking weird if you ask me.
>>553580481>Multiverse slopTiresome.
>>553579406Currently being in Commoragh is not a reason to never have a trial. If he wanted a trial, he would not say "well we are temporarily away from the court district of Dargonus, so I guess we'll just never have that trial...ever....". Of course not. If he really felt strongly about having a trial, he would say that, and it would be something you do when you get back from Commoragh. He recommends an impromptu trial in part because of the circumstance of you being in Commoragh, but he also says in this case he doesn't recommend a trial, which stands to reason for the list in my linked post. He knows she's good at her job, he knows she's highly trained in general, he knows she's highly trained in rooting out heresy, he knows she already has experience with the glass to recognize it, he knows she was guided by faith, and importantly he knows she was ultimately right. This isn't some random case of a random sob who killed a random RT, he knows the details of the case and knows all that evidence that supports her and he knows that she was right in the end, so he's ok saying "in any other case I would have a trial" and is ok with the impromptu trial. If he really thought she was guilty, he wouldn't do this. He knows *this* case well, and knows she's was justified, so he just passes the buck to you. Both as a formality because it's literally up to you, but also because he genuinely is fine with not having an official trial. It's both.He's also not suggesting she's guilty, since you can recommend someone go to trial even if you think they're innocent. He doesn't outright say he thinks she's innocent or guilty, since he withholds his own judgement and just passes it to you. But saying she should or should not have a trial, neither is implying guilt or innocence. And for the record, her case would likely be in her favor, given the above list. Already covered this here btw >>553569595, but people aren't reading.
>>553580773>but people aren't reading.I wonder why
>>553580642sadly not a woman irl so this is the closets I can get
>Play as girl in wotr>Never do anything with lann>Get forced to fist fight anyways>He still shows up being mad at why you have another partner
>>553575285>>553574629The Dark Eldar improved Glaito, foolish mon-keigh.
>>553580773>Currently being in Commoragh is not a reason to never have a trial>Being in another dimension from lawful authorities is not a reason to not ask said authorities to hold a trialPFTHAAHAHAAHA
>>553581019>be platonically nice to him once>he's now obsessed with you and thinks you're his girlfriendwhy are men like this
I read every post here but I never participate in anything
Can you really be wrong if you just beat everyone else into submission with identical equally wrong walls of text?
>>553581019>>553581178You should have played as a man, it has perks
Do you anons ever make a character of the opposite gender to yours to romance a companion you find cool in another run?Or do you only play guys if you're male and ladies if you're female?
an ARMY of CANNIBALS?
>>553581019>Play as girl in WotR>Just be nice to Lann>He thinks we're flirting >Be sarcastic with Daeran>He thinks it's flirting ...Huh? Feels weird. I guess that's just a part of female fantasy?..
>>553581403I'm a man and I play as a man who romances a woman, as God intended
>>553581178The God-Emperor cursed us with passion so we may learn to overcome it and bask in His glory.
My friend ran into a bug in RT where Jae is dumping him for not getting her the merchant charter, despite him having gotten it for her. I think it's because he waited until Act 3 where he could skip the line thanks to being coronated, and also went straight from the raid on Dargonus to the coronation. I think Owlcat didn't actually set the Jae flags properly, because she was still waiting to run into him in Act 4 outside the palace to ask him to go with her to the administratum building (and spoke as though Marazhai just hit the palace).I drew art of the event because I thought it was funny. Anyone got any clue which flags are tied to Jae's romance and quest so I can toybox it for him? He can't into Unity modding.>>553568196it makes the game REALLY easy so like if you don't want that, it's a pretty bad move
>>553581350But if you play as a girl you get to be shot down because she tells you she likes the feeling of penis inside her
Why can’t Owlcat give us any Tau traps to romance
>>553581528Wrong version of the image sorry
>>553581019Lann is the nice guy it checks out
>>553581403I don't self insert so sometimes. But I play a male character 90% of the time and always a male first run. Unless there is big gender reactivity outside of romance, then I roll a woman.
Even cosplayers do not want to bother with Jae.Sad!
>>553581620*feeling of a man inside herShe means it both ways which means she doesn't eat women. Good for her!
>>553581403Not really because of romance but I play something like 70% female 30% male characters (I'm female), just depends on what I feel like playing at the time. I was going to play a dude for Cassia but I got lazy, maybe after all the dlcs are out.
>>553581805>Unless there is big gender reactivity outside of romance, then I roll a woman.I meant independent of romance options. As in if there is no male character's storyline I'd like to see expanded with romance, but there is other gender reactivity I'd play a woman to see the content
>>553581892Those cosplayers are probably Russian and they aren't brown
>>553581892Commissar RT always winning
>>553581892>»you see ladies, this is why blah blah blah»
>>553581403I tend to play male in most games, but am not opposed to playing femaleI tend not to do romances, but when I do they tend to be heterosexual. Not many explicitly same-sex romances in games that are really strong. The ones that are are usually bi
>>553581403I play as a guy if- it's first playthrough - I have picked a strictly martial class - it's a good karma playthrough I pick a girl if- it's my second playthrough - I have picked pure mage- it's a bad karma playthrough Generally speaking my female characters are meaner than male ones, mostly because I default to good choices on my first run and pick evil or neutral ones on second one. Gender doesn't really matter if I'm doing a retard run, i.e. pick weird shit just to see what happens.For example in DAO as male dalish I was nice and reasonable, but when playing as female Circle mage, went all in on "give me more power" choices like using blood magic.
>>553581728how did your friend unlock the squat origin?
>>553581403I play both genders. I like where games acknowledge your gender instead of making you a genderless blob.
>>553581986He should be balding.
>>553580979anon...
>>553580979egg cracking when?
>>553581403>opposite gender to yours to romance a companion you find cool in another run?Depends on if the character is bi. I stick to female unless I think the character looks good with a man. Half elf twink x Karlach ahahehehe.
I don't approve of lesbianism and I'm not romancing a dude so I play as a man 90% of the time, on the times I do play as a woman she is a femcel
being a woman sucks so I usually play as dudes
>>553582135By playing a gruff, perpetually grumpy man who is convinced everyone around him is incompetent (or gets betrayed by them). It unlocks comedic stumpiness, you see.
>>553582331His fellowship is actually really high so he has a full head of hair
Where are the femboy romances in crpgs
>>553581403WotR I played male elf to romance Cam with, still doubt my decisionsI will play noble male next time to romance Cassia as a dogmatic
>>553582728Closest we can give you is Daeran
>>553582813Sad!
>>553582728Nonexistent, you'll sooner get tomboys and even those are rare.
>>553582728I need an actual proper trap romance...
would you kiss it?
>>553582904Same, but we are never getting that
You wouldn't fuck a fish.
>>553583143why not? pussy already has tuna smell...
Moving smoothly from Argenta autism to sexual fetish talk. We might need to hurry it along to make our YDS melty appointment, however.
>>553582904No traps, no futasat least we have Halsin
>>553582728>>553582904Cmon Owlcat. Tap into the trap market!
>>553583327>No futasArue might if you ask nicely.
>>553583326no were not gonna talk about your waifu
>>553583538But my calendar... I even circled the date in red..This isn't standard operating procedure!
>>553581403I've considered doing a mShep run for Miranda once, but never got past the character creation screen.
>>553583591anon!!!
>>553583591I don’t like futas desu. Either give me women or extremely effeminate men like Miquella
MOOOOOOODS!!!
Imagine the hypothetical Tau traps….
what did I miss??
Which early 2000’s rpg is actually worth playing in current day I’m old enough to have seen most of their boxes on sale at Walmart but I was a Blizzard nerd back then too just playing StarCraft and Diablo
>>553584121Just 3D liara futa
>>553584215kotor is pretty mainstream and enjoyable
>>553583105>>553583492I just kind of accepted that actual, honest to god, trueblooded trap companion/romance is never happening, because very effeminate or crossdressing men are immediately appropriated by trannies.
Dark Heresy alpha thoughts>Investigation system is really, really fun, but could use better explanation; didn't realize that constructing a hypothesis chain would open up new avenues for collecting evidence, so I missed out on some stuff.>Very dialogue focused.>Really worried about Act 1 party comp; will we be able to construct a 6 man all-human party in Act 1 without relying on mercenaries? This is important for puritanical agents (which the presence of Sister Septima as a force in the region implies is an intended roleplay space)>Combat difficulty in a few fights felt way too easy; Kroot camp and the final fight come to mind. The Ercimus fight has perfect difficulty tuning.>Snipers feel really, REALLY good. VATS was a really nice addition that adds a lot to the game. Not sure on Operative yet, though. The Kroot lady (on my playthrough) mostly pulled her weight with base sniper and her racial kit, not Operative stuff. It's really easy to hit killshots if you have a party member that can CC, like either of the psykers. Snipers might be too strong at a baseline with a party that has stuns?>Area damage felt super lackluster, basically only niche it filled for me was mass interruption of focus attacks from enemies>Morale is way too easy to pump up fast. A level 6 officer getting a guy to max morale without even spending all his AP is busted. Morale buffs should probably be nerfed (apply morale-over-time effects instead of all at once?), and Heroism should probably be applied from 10-15 morale with scaling benefit instead of turning on completely when you max out at 10. Just a random thought>The ending sequence of the alpha is the coolest shit I have ever seen in a CRPG, that final fight was insane>Cogg killing people literally just by flexing is really funny.The game looks very promising, and I really hope they don't shit the bed with combat balance after Act 1 like they did in Rogue Trader
>>553584330>tranny appropiated by trannieswhodathunk it
>>553584215As your peerBaldurs Gate seriesGothic VtMBIcewind Dale series
traps are disgusting and you creeps need to cut down on the porn consumption
>>553583828>extremely effeminate men like MiquellaBased fellow Miquella enjoyer.
>>553584330Yeah it’s a shame. Trannies ruined it all, for the most part.
>>553584396...No, that's not how it works. Traps don't have anything to do with trannies.
>>553584332Oh yeah, I also liked what little I saw of the origin mechanics on Righteous Noble. Specializations and the way they control the talent rollout (not frontloaded with info at Level 1) are appreciated, but different archetypes having the same specializations feels off to me.
>>553584332>will we be able to construct a 6 man all-human party in Act 1 without relying on mercenariesI assume that the two mercs you get in the critical aquatic situation scenario are stand-ins for two of the datamined companions, and that you'd get them in the SpiresSince all of the datamined ones are humans, then you should be able to go fully human, if my hypothesis is correctAgreed on the ending sequence, that shit was great
>>553584548They're already trying to claim tomboys, it's honestly just infuriating at this point
>>553577784I made a mistake can you forgive me
>>553584332Is Sister Septima pretty?
>>553581403Almost never for RPGs with romance. The one time I did was replaying ME1-3 because I REALLY like the female ME armor., especially the heavy stuff in ME1 and ME2/3 customization. I romanced Garrus, it was cute. But, no isometric game has made me want to.
>>553584972I don't like femshep, Jennifer Hale was miscast in that role
>>553584747We live in hell
>>553584938>>553551606
>>553584938No. None are.
>>553584938She's a pretty woman, but not the kind one should eye up
>>553585312>>553585352It says a lot about society.
>>553585117She didn’t bother me.
>>553585312She's nice, in a "veteran holy matron" way.
>come back to the normandy>see thiswhat do
I wish we didn’t have to share a board with mass effect fags. Everything after the first game was shit.
Never played Shadowrun, are the games conected in a story order or is it independent adventures? Also which game is the best of the bunch
>>553585687Call Liara, her onahole is in my room again
>>553585849same with Dragon Age, they both suck but biofags just won't let it go
>>553585854Anons here seem to prefer Hong Kong, but iirc Dragonfall is often cited as the better oneReturns is basically just a prototype, it's very short
>>553582728Taash is trapcoded
>>553586148Fuck. off.
Finally got +3 AC Clothing, literally the first magic clothing i've seen through the whole base game + half the DLC.And AC bonus gets overridden by barbarian Unarmored defense and Magic Armor. Unbelievably lame, pretty sure it should work like an enchantment similar to cloak or ring, since clothing isn't armor. Guess Solasta thinks otherwise.Damn I'm upset. What's even the point then. Should have taken armor proficiency for sorceresses on creation.
>>553585854Disconnected. Play whatever you like. Dragonfall is great, Hong Kong is good. Returns is mediocre, but is really just a short prototype made with their adventure module builder tool.
>>553586336>And AC bonus gets overridden by barbarian Unarmored defense and Magic Armor.AC is just a fascinatingly stupid way of doing "defense".
>>553586106>>553586490NTA do any of them have romance?
>>553586705No
>>553584712>you'd get them in the SpiresYou can choose to go to Marisportum before Spires, that's the choice without the flood.
>>553586148Taash is just a mentally ill woman
>>553586781Shit games then
>>553584712I didn't realize there were datamined characters. Do we know anything about them other than that they exist?>>553586795If they're Spires recruits, they probably didn't want to show them off just yet. I did the Critical Water Level scenario (Spires -> Marisportum) and rather enjoyed how fucked everything was. I'll probably try out Stable Water Level some time soon and see how different it is.
>>553586795That's what I meanttIt would still count as Act 1 though, it seems to basically just be the RT Act 1 choice again, except this time the map changes a lot more
trash is by far the ugliest female companion I have ever seen in a game
>>553587181she's non-binary...
>>553584332>>Really worried about Act 1 party comp; will we be able to construct a 6 man all-human party in Act 1 without relying on mercenaries? This is important for puritanical agents (which the presence of Sister Septima as a force in the region implies is an intended roleplay space)Yes the dogma friendly bunch is in the other path. You get to visit upper hive spire and the zone in alpha, which you do first changes stuff in the other. So i assume the rest of the cast in in the other zone.
>>553581403My second playthrough of DAO was with Dwarf princess as an mc. Romanced Alistair, made him king, became his queen or official consort, don't remember clearly. But it was a good run.
>>553587105I'm curious how the act finale will be structured, since what we saw at the end of the alpha felt EXTREMELY end of act, and that was tied explicitly to Marisportum. There is promo footage of the Terrors in what appears to be an upper hive environment. Do you think they'll have two hooks into that stuff, and only the second one you do will send you to the Phantom Space?
>>553587245Awkwaaaard!
>>553587245>shebharv time
I don't mind the Taash being non-binary as much as I mind Taash literally saying they're non-binary.
So do all navigators get fishy as a rule, or is Cassia's case just a matter of gene lottery?
Is the survey still open? I think Septima’s priest boy should actually be dead in scenario 2 with the flood. You can still initiate the fight but its moreso a fight between two desperate groups in a desperate environment now instead of over Septima’s lapdog. It would add some needed variation because so far I feel the flooded scenario is largely just a visual change. It needs quest changes too that reflect the current environment. Dig?
>>553587069Aspyce Chorda - Female noble (ex)Rogue Trader (see pic related datamined sketch)Hypatia - Female Magos Biologis (probablyromancable given prior comments)Discordance - Female BlankTouma - Male “spy”No romances are confirmed yet.
>>553587904shes a clone so shes more mutated
>>553587069>Do we know anything about them other than that they exist?Not much really. The datamined ones are a Magos Biologis Tech-Priest, Aspyce Chorda, A "Spy" named Toma(?) and a BlankMy memory is a bit hazy though, and I'm not certain of their names>>553587369Unless they decide to change how this works for the full release/Beta, then I don't think they'd limit the visit to the Phantom Space to the second place you go to, since you go there in both scenarios of the Alpha>the end of the alpha felt EXTREMELY end of actAgreed, but there will probably be something similar (i. e. a 'second hook') in the Spires as well, since you can seemingly do them in either order.
How does Veilguard even end? All bad old elves get killed, the Veil restored, Blight and brapspawn eradicated?
>>553587904>Gene lotteryPretty sure it was actual eugenics and cloning so she's special in that regard.
>>553588027 (me)Fuck me, the first spoiler tag for the datamined companions vanished, I'm sorry anon
>>553587959>no romances confirmed yetgive us Larry or we'll riot!
>>553588091if Bioware doesn't care about their own lore nobody else should
>>553587904Navigators tend to get unique mutations when they get them. The Third Eye is the only absolute constant.
>>553587181that is 10/10 in Qunlandistan btw
>>553588091an even more ancient evil was controlling things behind the scenes, unironically
>>553587904the longer a navigator lives and the more powerful they are, the more the mutation develops. it's inevitable. as others have said though, cassia is special and a very powerful navigator, so her mutations are a bit advanced for her age.
>>553583326>ctrl+f argenta>129 matchesYDS is so last year, now it's all about ADS
>>553587918Sounds like a good idea. You should be able to access the survey from the main menu of the AlphaYou could also write it as a suggestion in the bug report interface
>>553584596It's all tranny adjacent shit and an affront in the eyes of the God-Emperor.
>>553587959Aspyce is going to rape the acolyte in a Planescape Torment tier text dump
>>553588320>Navigators tend to get unique mutations when they get themHonestly, I don't want to imagine what must happen behind closed doors to keep the navigator bloodlines going
>>553588359the raszard prophecy...
>>553585854Independent and people are split on Daggerfall and Hong Kong (HK for me personally)
Imagine a world without Owlc*t or R*gue Tr*d*rWe were denied utopia because of these things
>>553588784*Dragonfall lol
>>553588784>DaggerfallThe unholy collab between TES and Shadowrun incoming?
>>553588334So she's gonna be an actual carp by the time she hits forty
>>553588776Argenta, no!
>>553587959>>553588027>Aspyce Chorda as a companionHoly shit>>553587918I think so, since the alpha playtest itself is still playable
>>553589075Dragon not so tough after I Drain Strength 100 Points on Touch
>>553589115She will turn into a beautiful mermaid!
>>553589116Why did he dump Yeerlet
>>553589116What happened to her tits lmao
>>553589116>Psyker>Boning ArgentaHeretical +30
>>553589375He wanted to expand his dynasty Can't do that with Yrliet
>>553589116Christmas anal with Argenta
>>553589360>Do you still love me?..
>>553589714>>553589585>>553589116>>Yrilet and Argenta>one you can't even romance>one who'll openly vomit at the suggestion and also not genetically compatibleCassia is right there, Jae, Kibellah, if you want to have babies->Kibellah would actually be the only right choice as Cassia is a mutant and marrying her is 'the bad end'- not sure about Jae>>>553590160>Cassia: would you still love me if I was a worm?
>>553588461Nice. It shall be done
>>553590367The fact you can plap Argenta or Yerelets is the EXACT reason this autismo latched on to them.
>>553590160Suddenly every Cassiafag dumps her
Which is the best crpgg with leftoid message, which is the best crpg with rightoid message and which is the best crpg with centrist message?Foaming at the mouth redditors and /pol/fags who can't neutrally argue politics and will just shit up the thread with low IQ parroted hivemind speak wordsalads need not reply to this post or any of the replies to it, thank you.
>>553590854This is a stupid post and you are a stupid person for posting it.
>>553590841can't*
>>553590841Is he a previous 40K fan or did he get into the setting with Rogue Trader.I know SoB and Eldsr are the community waifu icons of the setting. Maybe he really liked the idea of having one of those in a 40K RPG and got heavily disappointed so he made hos headcanon.
>>553590854>Which is the best crpgg with leftoid messageDisco Elysium >which is the best crpg with rightoid message Rogue Trader>which is the best crpg with centrist messageAlso Rogue Trader
>/crpg/-Razard roundtable
>>553591160He's just a retard who's hyperfixated on a thing that didn't happen and also revels in attention people give him.
>>553590848Nyo... Don't say that...
There will never be another Dragon Age again
My favorite redditors are Raszard and Pasqal’s Toaster. What’s yours
>>553581892>1 of 3 r34 pics of Jae in existencedamn...
>>553590367>Cassia: would you still love me if I was a worm?1. You're a snail-fish-human thing, dear, you're not a worm.2. Abelard, pass me the fish food.3. Get out of the fish tank, Cassia.
>>553590367Jae is, at the end of the day, just gold digging smuggler scum, but she is also the perfect sort of match to a swashbuckling, gallavanting, quick-witted, double-crossing, laugh-in-the-face-of-death Rogue Trader
>>553591780that bitch that made the funny ducksloved thosethe small horses were cute too
>>553592042Also she loves anal
>>553592297I couldn't tell you if that's true or not, I have never pursued a romance in Rogue TraderOnly reason I have the romance achievement is because I told Yrliet "You're weird" on the ship
>>553554169Who else jerked off to that pic when they were a kid?
>>553591780>Pasqal’s Toaster.QRD?
>>553592691A redditor waifufags are in love with
>>553592691A femcel that wants pasqal to be romancable, bitches about how men get more romance options in Owlkek games constantly, cooms for Marazhai too
>>553592642
>>553593039>he stalks this redditoroh no nonono
Was the interactable highlight feature part of the original BG1 release? I fail to see the point of these tiny interactables otherwise if they aren't just cool hidden things for autists to discover. I found a high level plate armor the similar way very early in the game.
>>553593361Yes. There's also another specific kind of interactable that does whatever sort of script. It doesn't highlight and you have to be near it. I believe there's one in the halfling village? If not there certainly in Durlag's Tower. And then again in BG2 here and there, but they aren't common and the only way you notice them is your cursor changing while over them.
>>553593290Not really she's just a frequent poster, see her in comment section in 80% of posts I look at and she has the top 1% contributor schizo award
Why can't RT kill Argenta in cumrag?Theodora's heir should be honoured to kill SoB, not some disposable psyker.
>>553594013go back right now
Anyone got a QRD on what this was supposed to be like?
>>553554169What the fuck is happening in the crotch area? And what the fuck is she doing with her hands? Retarded art
I'm replaying DOS2 and am currently in ArxThe game holds up but I have to say that magic damage is so weak in this game with the exception of fire damageI dont understand why necromancers (non lone wolf no glass cannon) can deal 16k in one turn (I counted) whereas my hydrosophist with a higher intelligence barely can deal 2-3k with a similar set-up and 6k at most (absolute best case scenario)Every enemy in the game has elemental resistances and immunities whereas physical is resisted by basically nothing and yet is still allowed to deal so much damageWhile elemental resistances can go negative that only really happens with fire, and occasionally with aerotheurge since no enemy resists lightningBase damages and cooldowns are so bad and magic armor is probably higher on average than physical. I guess magic has more aoe but come on. It feels the devs went too hard in on making weapons users feel strong that everything else suffers for it. Maybe mages were good in the original version but the definitive edition they suck unless you are doing super cheesy minmaxing with savage sortile + huntsman max second If you are running a 50/50 mixed damage party you will kill enemies with physical damage in at least 70-80% of cases. Enough said
>>553554759No
>>553593361Yes they’ve always been highlightable. They’re just a little thing to encourage exploration.
>>553594208They knew nobody would kill her because she's a pretty SoB
>>553556178We could not because he's not under our jurisdiction. But he'd do it of his own free will anyway
>>553556263>kills a hereticThe charges, arbitrator?
>>553590160Prayer or two to chaos and she's as good as new.
>>553556904>she acts impulsivelyThe Emperor was guiding her
>>553594289>retarded artNot AI-generated enough for you, sloppy?
>>55355714525-30 is just average. Dumb is is below 25
are you trying to bring him back
>>553594540Marzipan is 30 too and he is pretty smart, for an elf
>>553595290Ironic
>>553564858I bet they have sweaty sex in his cabin if you give her to him
>>553595585wtf I love elves now
>>553555508Jimmy is on a fastlane to becoming a radical inquisitor. He wouldn't kill Idira - he would recruit her and make her a daemonhost
>>553572252That's the fate of all repentias, anon. WHy do you act surprised?
Quest for Glory 1-5 reboot as one epic small party CRPG (a fighter, a magic user, and a thief)
>>553596008Repentias can serve their 'sentence' and return to their previous rank. It happens often enough. They are even treated with respect and awe by other sisters.
what's the crpg that's the easiest to get into as a TES sbaddiefed baby ? Should I get Disco Elysium ? I tend to get filtered by games that are too hard / too complex to understand, though I did play dwarf fortress in the past
>>553596740>sbaddiefedsorry I got a word replacer on p00n (with two o), I meant sp00nfed
>Lord Captain, there is absolutely no need for a Rogue Trader to involve himself in every single minor disturbance onboard the ship. The choirmaster already inspected some of these "mysterious heretical symbols" appearing across the decks and he is certain they are not the work of actual heretics.
>>553587181He mom looks nice. Her dad must have been really ugly
>>553594393I was actually surprised at how respectable Earth is as a specialization. Relatively few enemies resist earth damage meaningfully and it has very good itemization thanks to that plant set. It's held back by poison being a very feast or famine damage type, though, and most of its CC requiring you to strip physical armor. The armor system is honestly the big thing that screws over mages in DOS2, since DOS1 established martials as the damage dealers and mages (outside of wand specialists, which are crazed fucking gunmen) are swiss army knives with lots of status effects and CC and stuff, but CC doesn't work in DOS2 until you are basically already killing the enemy. Mods fix it, as always.
>>553588672>Planescape Torment tier text dumpThey wouldn't dare be as based as larian with their descriptive sex scenes straight out of a romance novel
>>553596740>sbaddiefed?Disco Elysium feels like an odd first choice but it wouldn't be the worst. There's literally no combat except for one part that's done through dialogue. It's pretty intense though, but the focus on the game is more about story and characters, but you have almost constant skill checks too (which can be fun to fail.) Again odd choice but not the worst. As much as I don't like the game, BG3 is probably the obvious choice for starter CRPG. Dwarf Fortress isn't hard or complex, it just has a veil of autism with the presentation and controls. But still you should be fine. That also says that maybe you're fine with older games, so the classics that started CRPGs are Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 from the late 90s. Some people seem to really dislike BG1 but I honestly don't find them that different and think overall BG1 then BG2 is the best experience.I'd save Pillars of Eternity or the Pathfinder games until you're sure you like the genre, but those are solid as well.
What is the Jefre Cantu Ledesma of CRPGs?
Fights are getting challenging in the dlcs, lots of meme immunities and other high level shenanigans. 'Dragon wins initiative and breaths 7d10 acid on your party 1st turn' type of stuff.Also unlike the base campaign, a lot of encounters happen after a trigger or cutscene, so you can't properly use stealth, scouting or positioning which is lame. That did often break 'intended' way devs created fights in core game, but felt dynamic.Overall campaign is much more railroaded and cinematic, closer to Dragon Age. It's tighter, polished, but sense of adventure lessens.Barbarian is also lagging behind in usefulness. At least BG3 Karlach had the demon engine buff.
>>553596740I will always maintain that Divinity: Original Sin 2 is the best possible entry point into the genreGood campaign, fun characters, and (most importantly by far) a gameplay system that is very easy to grasp at first exposure to a layman. A lot of CRPGs fail that last step.
>>553596264QFG4 is still one of the best games ever made.
>>553589360No I'm serious.Since Cassia's mutations are more pronounced already, and them getting worse is inevitable, does he turn into a deep one or no.
>>553597442As I said, she turns into a beautiful mermaid and the RT frolics with her in her tank. She has that goriila grip dolphin pusy too.
>>553597305Man, the UI just makes me upset. It looks like a placeholder.
>>553597442A navigator, given enough time to live, will always become unrecognizable as a human. It's just a matter of whether or not they last that long.
>>553597581I will believe you.
>>553596740BG3 is the easiest entrypoint from a game polish/complexity/familiarity standpoint. DOS2 and DAO are also pretty good, but Dragon Age is showing its age and has extra patching needed for non-GoG versions. And DOS2 has a bunch of pretty unusual and complex mechanics that make combat less obvious and can lead to some analysis paralysis for character building.
Is cavalier a good class in BG 2 ?
Abelard, call Idira a slur.
>>553597612It honestly sucks being a navigator.At best you get like 20 years of living in relative comfort (lots of caveats to that too) before turning into a monster just because you were born with a Möbius loop of a DNA structure.
>>553598046Pretty Good. Probably the best Paladin class for a main character. There are LOTS of demonic enemies later on. That said, I think Paladin is only an average choice as a base class overall.
>>553597332For me it was Fallout 1. it ignited my love for CRPGs and it was a perfect entry point for a genre i had very little interest in previously.
>>553598046Define good.Is it retard strong? Not really.Does it assrape a few specific encounters? Absolutely.Cavalier is simple and lacks some versatility but good at just hitting things righteously until they stop moving.
>>553598236True, but at the end of the day, you're practically untouchable by right of political status. You're a protected class of necessary professionals - you'll never be out of work, you'll never want for anything, and the only hazards you'll ever face in your life are occupational (damage to the ship or warp phenomena during travel). Even then, if you're able to politic in your house, you won't have to worry about occupational hazards.
>>553598046>>553598359it's decent, not as good as Inquisitor. It kinda sucks in BG1 because it can't use bows which are OP in that game
>>553598498Fallout 1 has aged remarkably better than its contemporaries IMO. Also helps that it's not very long.
>>553598359Palabab's power comes mostly from Carsomyr. So if you decided to use some other weapon type... Ayy to the lmao.
>>553597305Seems that main problem graphically was indeed terrible lighting and shadows, multiplied by poorly made material shaders. They pay more attention to lights and compositions in cutscenes now, feels more professionally made. Most objects don't glow like Oblivion bloom anymore. All of the armor, props and stuff looks better too.>>553597601Yeah, it's also super laggy and annoying to navigate. I bet, if some of the elements were at least scaled down it'd look neater.
>>553594228Concept art for blackhound: https://imgur.com/a/bg3-black-hound-concept-art-vMaQ9lKStory outline: https://www.winterwind-productions.com/an-interview-with-damien-foletto-part-2/#google_vignette
>RT: The inquisistion calls for me?>50 different things happening at the same time-pirates popping up everywhere, rumors appearing quite close to my ship and the administratum needs my full attention>RT: oh no, looks like I'll be late for an important meeting! How terrible!
>>553598659For sure
>>553598743Your lizard people are UGLY!
>>553598621I think Cavalier is better for a MC because Keldorn exists. And even disregarding him I still kinda prefer it because you get a bunch of upside with zero downside. Double level dispel is stupid strong, but that’s all Inquistor has going for it and either Keldorn or Haer’Dalis, to a slightly lesser extent, give that to you. As for BG1, you should just be building your MC to be one of your tanks. And for what it’s worth throwing daggers are also 2 APR but add the strength damage bonus.
>>553599154I know, that was the point. I didn't think I'd stick with the game for long, so I made them silly looking for fun. Plus, human faces looked creepy, almost uncanny and have terrible plastic hair.At least sorc has a nice ass now tho
>>553598717Might as well play a fighter/thief if that’s all you want.
Is Dark Heresy going to have Nocturne as a special surprise guest?
>>553598610True. Not a lot of people in the Imperium can boast even half of the rights and protections that navigators have.But to me there's something uniquely sad about losing your human visage bit by bit, inevitably, irrevocably; all while being treated as either a necessary evil, an outcast, a pampered parasite or with just envy and jealousy. Somehow having access to many comforts denied to commoners just makes the whole degradation process even sadder, in a way.Also your dad and mom probably look even worse, if they are even still alive.
>>553600360I'm not particularly attached to the actual shape of the human body. As long as it doesn't coincide with a loss of ability (ie can't talk any more, can't pick things up, can't bend a certain way any more, etc), I wouldn't really mind becoming something completely different.
>>553599761hnnnnggghhhh
>>553600289I really like this gal’s art
>>553600289>new Sasamekuh art barely floats by on a hundred reddit upvotes>raszard’s reposted dogshit gets over a thousand likes no effortWhat…..
>>553601350>PS AI slop vs hand drawn art of a struggling artistit's obvious why
>>553601350please get off reddit. Sasamekuh posts on twitter mainly I think
>>553601350>Weeb shit vs sovlOf course Raszard wins
>>553601350>reddit reddit reddit reddit reddit throw yourself off a cliff
>>553598046Yeah.Bonuses are really solid and come into play often than you might think, especially later in the game. I honestly enjoyed playing through BG1-2-ToB as Cavalier. While BG1 was a little rough, the rest was smooth sailing. It was also kinda neat to be Imoen's sibling knight in shining armor even though I played as a girl. Poison immunity probably has the most practical and mundane utility.
>>553597242>It's pretty intense though, but the focus on the game is more about story and characters,yeah I think that would make it maybe more engaging for meI've considered BG3 for sure but I'm a little bit short on money right now so I'll check BG1 ! And also maybe Fallout 1 like >>553598498 mentionnedBut yeah I think Pillars of Eternity and the pathfinder games are somewhat too advanced for me rn>>553597332I think I played divinity original sin 2 some times ago but didn't give it enough time to really get engaged although it was pretty and welcoming for newcomers indeed>>553598004thanks for the rec, I've actually played DAO back in the days on xbox ! It was pretty nice indeed and easy enough to get into
Damn I eat people now
the stag lord has something to do with the stag god?woah
>>553602123What a faggot path honestly. The whole mythic system was so ass.
>>553602234Imo the stag lord should rule. Best part of the game.
>>553602234>Bother. What to name this monster? A great female monster, much like a spider in aspect... Hm... What was that old word for spider again? Lob? Yes, that's right. Shelob.
>>553597418Correct
>>553602367Yeah it was shit. All the late game paths are. But the Corrupt GD path makes very little sense on a path that already have shit writing. The spooky dragon form looks cool tho.
>>553602671Hey, it works
Octavia or Salad? Already went for Valerie on my very first run years ago.
>>553602072>I think Pillars of Eternity and the pathfinder games are somewhat too advanced for me rnYou might be surprised. I think you can do just fine in either on the Normal difficulty by just not being a total retard. Like, if you're a spellcaster, you choose spellcasting feats. DOS2 might be a better intro game than BG1 despite me disliking DOS2 and liking BG1 a lot. There's too much variation in people enjoying vs hating BG1, so there's a possibility it's not your thing, especially since the characters are very lacking in banter. I suppose thinking about it, Disco Elysium might be a good starting point after all. It's a great game that I've suggested to non-crpg and even non-gamer friends.
>>553603242I think Salad is better unless you really value your love interest being in your party as a playable companion.
>>553602671For some reason, Shelob is called Kankra in the German version of LotR. I have no idea why.
>>553603242Octavia
>>553603386Heh, she’s called Hutula in mine
>>553603242Harrim
>>553603603Norwegian?
I just realised that I've only played Angel path once and jumped into the funny vortex in the end, so I don't even know what other endings are possible for that path. Oh boy, time to replay hhis shit again.
>>553604006Yup
I might be stupid, but I like having several portraits for Charname and swapping them as I go through the entire trilogy to signify the character development.
Am I the only one who goes for some antiquated historical name when choosing my character names? I’ve never had a taste for meme names or basic contemporary names.
>>553604532I mostly choose names I think fit the setting, the character image I chose, or the concept I have in mind.
I wanna smooch her.
>>553604532I have half a dozen default names I choose based on class/race/setting (wouldn't use a fantasy name in a scifi game), one of my online handles works pretty well as a fantasy name so I use it when I try to self-insert (usually unsuccessfully).
>>553605260Friend of mine named his Rogue Trader Harry Mudd and thought it was the funniest thing ever.
>>553603374yeah I just took disco elyseum on gog, also because it's been recommended a lot in rps I also got bg1 out of curiosity since it was cheap
>>553604376that's respectable Character Autism
>>553604532I like Zenobia
>>553604532It's been decades, and I STILL just use hero names from HoMM series (especially HoMM 3, Castle, Rampart and Tower factions) for my characters.
>>553605468Hopefully you enjoy either
what posses someone to do this
>>553589375he unironically got chased away by the RT subreddit and people started to accuse him of drawing Yrliet in a "rapey" way because she's asexual and aren't attracted to humans
I like Owlcat.
>>553605890>Local tourist baffled by ritualpostingI expected more desu. 459 feels low.
>>553605926So the clock is ticking until he gets chased away from Arawarawa too, since she's not interested in sexing either.
>>553605926But I still see Yrliet x Psyker posts every now and then
>>553606053i think they should expand their QA department
I forgive YrlietI forgive MarazhaiI forgive NyrissaI forgive LoghainI forgive AndersI forgive SolasI forgive Sarevok
Is forge world worth it on a plasma build? Fortress world is obviously also good but forge seems more on theme
>>553606871Thank you Jesus Christ
I don't hate BG3, I loved the gameplay.But man I dislike Larian's writing and find most of the companions cringe. I think if Larian got a better writing team it would have a shot at being the best CRPG made so far. I don't even mind 5E that much.
how is melee soldier arch militant
>>553606871>I forgive Marazhaifrom his point of view he never did anything wrong ever, now RT, on the other hand, could show more compassion by allowing him some stabby stab time in the lower levels between warps
Is it just me or is Psychosis/Psionic Mania kinda bad in underrail? it seems better to just skip it if your not going a tranquility build.
>>553607470It only works for a specific psi build imo
>>553607160Lae'zel and Minthara were fine.
give me one reason not to kill minthara in act 1
Which companion would most likely be up for rimming (receiving)
>>553608341Karlach
>>553608341ulfar
>>553608341Nenio
>>553604532I tend to use either my middle name or an antiquated historical variant of my real name.
>>553608341Sosiel
>>553584332>I really hope they don't shit the bed with combat balance after Act 1 like they did in Rogue TraderThey will. It's not like it's just them who does this, it's true of almost every CRPG
Is this true?
>fey>looks more demonic than a demon What did the first world mean by this
>>553607952She's funny.
>>553608341Isabela is asking why you haven’t already started rimming her.
>>553608725>read this game journalism headline and debate it for meno
>>553606871Do you forgive Leliana?
>>553608725Just post the original Avellone comments instead of some piece of "journalism".
>>553606934Persistence of the Forge, Analytic System, and Pinnacle of Weaponry are super worth it, yeah, but you can't use plasma rifles as a dedicated ranged attacker as well as Pasqal can. I'd wait until DLC3 to tackle that stuff, so you can check and see if there's stuff in there that makes high-tech stuff like plasma and melta better for non-Pasqal characters
there is a rumour floating around that countdown timer is basically an upcoming announcement of Fallout 3 , NV remasters
>>553608729Unseelie court. That’s more or less a Slaugh.
>>553598046pretty good but i love it for RP purposes I romanced jaheria first as LG cavalier
>>553608579We were denied kino
>>5536091901.5 already gave huge buffs to plasma, don’t think they’ll do more.Pasqal is really hamstrung by being an operative, missing out on some of his shit and getting full soldier stuff in exchange seems fair.
Who is the lebron james of crpgs?
https://voca.ro/1nl2uLMvV2mK
>>553609105For what?
>>553609850Why did you record yourself taking a sloppy shit?
>>553609850this, but unironically
Post Cam JOI.
Some of you niggas are just lost.
why is this thread more gay than an mmo general?
The aspys romance will save this general, it will be everything the yirlet romance should have been
>553610748Yirlet induced psychosis
How will she mindbreak owlkeks
>owlcat in the grand 26WE have all moved onto solasta 2 aka the bg3 killer.
>>553611002not a crpg, go away or you'll force my hand
>>553611002She has a futa cock
This is a Kibbles general
>>553611345She should have been black and solomorne should have been white.
>>553608647Rogue Trader was the worst it's ever been in terms of horrible combat balance, that game is hilariously easy the moment you get out of Act 1 no matter what difficulty you play on
>>553611345Her haircut is stupid.
>>553611345Boring
Owlcat could learn alot about proper turn based comabt design from caves of qud.
>>553604691
>>553608729Because CN = NE
>>553611002snow bunny is going to cuck you
>anon post a non-shit owlcat waifu>immediate post shitting on her that are literally 1 second apartI know what you are.
>>553611126Mass Effect is a CRPG :)
>>553611002>earrings in zero Glollmao
>>553611868your waifu sucks
>>553612193sleep tight cammers
I didn't interrupt Yrilet's ritual>Didn't romance her so whateverBut the way she spoke afterwards she seemed defeated and while RT left with amicable xenos Yriliet seemed pretty much like on a 'fuck the farseers' mode I think she's on the outcast path, but I'm not quite sureThought not interrupting the ritual was going to mess her up worseShe still calls me elantach and they did say her memory was going to come back
Imagine if real women were half as good as crpg women.
>>553609850When are your Josh Sawyer and Chris Avellone interviews Nardwuar
CRPG waifus have never surpassed Viconia to be honest.
>>553612918Crpg women don't give me head
>>553613181Unlike Daeran who gives you a lot.
>>553607952She's as stupid as Argenta. Dumb women need to be protected, and everyone needs protection from them
>>553606871I don't forgive Yrliet because she unironically should have known better. Even if we accept that it wasn't betrayal and she just honestly thought the drukhai would deal fairly with her (??????), that's still massively stupid on a scale that is bordering on nonsensical writing from the author, it's so contradictory to what everyone knows about them.I also don't forgive Loghain. The story and setting are written in such a way that he's actually just legitimately wrong and his betrayal was pointless. You can have an interesting argument about regicide and betrayal for the sake of improving the kingdom if you are actually improving things, but he was literally just wrong about the blight and about Orlais, so he's 0-2 on his reasons for it. Not even half. Then of course Veilguard retcons the entire thing to be he was duped by manipulators, so then he just becomes even more wrong because he fell into the trap of doing the bedding of external destructive forces.I also don't forgive Anders, but that was more because your character at that point can be negotiating pretty well with both the templars and mages with a lot of your things in the works and he just shits on it and starts a war. It's also the classic problem all terrorism faces, which is that the average random person who was at service on a random sunday that you bomb are not the people responsible for the thing you're mad about.I do forgive Solas, because he actually had a legitimate point and had a goal, he was just wrong about the how of it and he can realize that and actually help by the end of the story.I liked Sarevok changing sides a lot and was pretty satisfied with his good ending. Bg3 canonizes him just returning to old business as usual and he even writes a letter that he was a fool to turn away from Bhaal, so I guess it depends on which game you're looking at. I ended up killing him and leaving his body on the floor of the murder tribunal, but if bg3 didn't exist I would forgive him.
>>553613760BG3 isn't canon thoSarevok's story ended after ToB
Dollies? Yeah, I've smooched a few.
>>553611345>>553611345This is a Nibbles general
>>553613760>she just honestly thought the drukhai would deal fairly with her (??????)I think the idea is that she thought she could easily manipulate Marazhai to do what she wantedYou know how women areI mean she literally says she didn't trust Marazhai, but she thought she had him all figured out and that she could handle him.
Some of you guys need to have sex irl instead of posting this shit.
>>553613614she's a generic act 1 bad guy
I feel like you should always wipe out the Hellknights in Act 5 unless you're playing as a lawtist yourself because it's only a matter of time before they come for you to.
>>553612193Sleep tight cammers.
>>553612693What actually happens in that path? I've never done itDoes she literally not remember you at all, or just vaguely the adventures you've had>I think she's on the outcast path, but I'm not quite sureYeah sounds like it. Honestly she's right, fuck the farseers. Corsair ending is better for her.
Some of you guys need to smooch dollies in games instead of crying at the rest of us having fun
>>553613413>daeran why did you learn healing magic>so I could fuck around without any consequences
>>553584332>Cogg killing people literally just by flexing is really funny."He... he's too strong!"
>>553613760>Even if we accept that it wasn't betrayal and she just honestly thought the drukhai would deal fairly with her (??????), that's still massively stupid on a scale that is bordering on nonsensical writing from the author, it's so contradictory to what everyone knows about them.Read the dialogues. She was incredibly desperate and in a mental crisis after seeing the piece of Crudarach in the RT's chambers. She knew Vectcucks are liars and psychos, but she assumed if it was a lie it would just be a false trail, maybe another pirate attack, or a trail to some dead Aeldari. She didn't consider that Marazhai was specifically trying to capture the RT to use in his Kabal power play. It's still stupid, but she wrongly thought the worst that could happen was another easy fight.
>>553584332The final fight fucked me a few times until I figured out. The wave of explosionsErcimus fight was perfect. Different levels, interesting angles of approach for enemies, and a good mechanic with that jukebox that can play either heretical cacophony or uplifting hymns. The second stage was well balanced too.
>>553614731hello simp
>>553611002she's a degenerate sex addict, it's Expanse
>>553586705>>553585854No connection, they're independent.No romance. In Dragonfall you have a dead ex-gf and that's it.I think Honk Kong is the most well realized. The missions are the most interesting and feel the most like shadowrun jobs, and the characters have the most substance. The motivation for the whole plot feels personal, more successfully so than Dragonfall.
glad to here the detective work is fleshed out/a focus in DH, playing detective in vidya can be a lot of fun
>>553611002her cock will dwarf yours
>>553614234whys your last slot empty
>>553615008Dragonfall is vastly superior to Hong Kong in everything except hub structure. They're also very loosely connected via off-screen NPC references. Dragonfall has a "romance" that is implied through intimacy with a companion who otherwise has no personal connections and trauma bonds with the player.I'll give you credit for the romance point but I still kind of doubt you even played the games.
>>553614374I wonder if letting her speak to the aeldari you encounter in a random event while visiting and a system and them just verbally abusing her have points to the outcast pathWould be hilarious if it did
>>553611002Indian boyfriend
Yrliet's thinking:>heh, Marazhai is so dumb>he thinks that I'm coming alone to the meeting spot and he's going to trick me somehow>but he doesn't know I'm bringing Elantach!>Elantach always wins against Marazhai>hehe I'm so good at manipulating situations to my advantage
>>553615245I should have said mission progression instead of hub structure, because what I really mean is that the missions are ordered and presented in a way that feels more organic to the circumstances.
Coolest area intro so far, got me a little excited (Durag's tower).
>>553615245>Dragonfall is vastly superior to Hong Kong in everything except hub structureWhat are you talking about? In what sense? The characters in Dragonfall have almost no personality, and you're just being pushed from mission to mission "come on, we gotta find the next lead about what happened to Monika!", an individual the player has to imagine caring about because she's described as your ex-gfWhereas in Hong Kong you and your foster brother have an actual history and things to talk about, and you're looking for your foster father, who is characterized in a more personal way in the intro. And everybody else has personality and is worth talking to, Gobbet, Is0bel, Rakter, Gaichu. Each mission feels different and interesting.
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>>553615226Because Regill joined his people
>>553615450Still the best dungeon ever made in a CRPG.
>>553615245>Dragonfall is vastly superior to Hong Kong Factually and measurably wrong
>>553615780Better than Grimrock's megadungeon?
>>553606223He draws both
>>553615450>>553615780I did not enjoy all the stupid fucking rocks in underground level 2.
>>553615659I love that you wrote a bunch of shit that really boils down to "I like the intro cutscene and vague references to an abusive father" and a list of the characters' names.>>553615850Obvious contrarian coded post, discarded.
>>553605353Jae should have been a Harry Mudd type character. Like a recurring comedy unscrupulous trader NPC, not a companion.
>>553615314Without the rogue trader those two idiots would have been dead a long time agoThey can't even dismantle their own xeno trapsFucking Jae has more knowledge about xenos than they have combined>Nevermind my rogue trader >Yrilet, just stay in the back and shoot it's the only thing you're good at
Argenta beating a rogue trader and a arch-militant by herself is a asspull.
>>553616192a Harry Mudd stand-in leaving his sex slave with you to be a companion and occasionally checking in to make sure you haven't broken her would be kinoit seems like CBS is in some amount of trouble with rebooting the franchise and licensing a set for that zombified Hasbro game, Owlcat should grab the license while its cheap for a good crpg
>>553616181Can you even explain what you liked about Dragonfall>Glory has wide hips and I can see her tummyAnything else?
>>553615245>Dragonfall is vastly superior to Hong Kong in everything except hub structureI strongly disagree.
>>553616327Argenta has plot armor and nothing bad happens to her besides the Repentia ending.
>>553616365>TOS-era cprgThis would be so good
>>553614954There is NOTHING wrong with simping!
Please stop discussing Star Trek. It's depressing to be reminded of how bad the franchise is today.
>>553616597It's alright, shereen, I think your simping is very nice
>>553616371I could rest my case there but the central intrigue of AI developing a consciousness in a world of fantasy and the transposition of fantasy archetypes like the dragon CEO is handled more gracefully than anything in Hong Kong. Zombie Samurai is Michael Bay material and Vampire Executive with Lesbian Haircut is straight out of Marvel - the good ending being tied to a bunch of cryptic interactions with the foreshadowed eldritch entity is the only part of the game handled with any respect for the material. Also it's just kind of in bad taste to make a game with so little interest in history about Kowloon Walled City, though I don't expect that point to hold well on a Georgian cousin dating site. >>553616409I know, I already addressed you and your half of the website: >>553616181
>>553616694Thank you, Jae, light of my eyes.
>implying star trek was ever goodLiberal propaganda.
>>553616853>how I met your mother Jae
>>553616579it practically makes itself and it serves the romance and hero fantasy keystones of the genre so well, its amazing it hasn't happened yet, especially given the audience crossover and depreciating licensing costs
>>553617071Do you have any idea how much the hands holding Star Trek hate the people who want a romance and hero fantasy? They would never let it be made.
>>553616371NTA but I had lots of fun playing both dragonfall and SRHK. I think I overall liked SRHK more, but I did enjoy the story and characters of dragonfall a lot too.
>>553616835>Vampire Executive with Lesbian HaircutThat's an NPCHave YOU even played the game?> the central intrigue of AI developing a consciousnessOh right, you're a bot. Nice way to give it away.
>>553617014She was a barrack bunny, not a streetwalker, idiota.
>>553614104Give her back her breastplate
>>553617561Thats not any better
How can three crudely-drawn lines by so evocative?
>>553617605Bibbles
>>553617014>how it feels to romance any owlcat girl
>>553617014That image is for Arue
>>553617792id fuck biblbes
Solasta
>>553614789That jukebox is the entire reason the fight rated so highly. It was the only fight where the enemy actually attempted to harm my morale and buff their own, so the morale system actually got a chance to shine, and the jukebox forced me to change my battle plan and alter which way I chose to take the fight. All the praying people were also a cool mechanic. The escort fight was also really hard, but I didn't like it as much (it was merely okay). Still a nailbiter.>Wave of explosionsI actually never got to see that go off. I went in with Acolyte, Cogg, Epione, Saro, Kroot, Corsair, so I had enough mobility and morale generation to clear corpses on demand. I killed the actual boss on the first cycle with a couple of good VATS shots, and heroic acts. It REALLY needs more health and defenses, or ways to assault your morale offensively.
Eh, I like the cast of Dragonfall and Hong Kong, they both had people I liked and people I didn't like. I slightly prefer the germanic folklore inspiration of Dragonfall over the Chinese folklore inspiration of Hong Kong, but that's subjective. There were enough small QoL changes in Hong Kong to appreciate, but not as large as the leap from Dead Man's Switch to Dragonfall. Hong Kong is probably the slightly better game but not by much, they're both good, and both better than the first one.>>553616327Not just any archmilitant, a death world archmilitant. Death worlders are the strongest, fastest, and most resilient the human body can get. All of them are Rambo, and if they're not Rambo, they die young on their planet.But there's an actual in-universe explanation for how she did it. People of her faction literally get to cheat whenever the Emperor feels like it. She was able to draw and fire before a death world archmilitant even flipped the safety on his weapon, and Theodora also died with a look of surprise still on her face. When the Emperor guides them, they can perform minor miracles like bullets bending away from vital organs because they are pushed away by their spoken psalms (represented mechanically by having a 1/6 chance to roll a dice and simply ignore a wound), moving unnaturally fast in combat because they really want to prove themselves to the Emperor (represented mechanically by being able to discard miracles dice from your pool to gain higher initiative in close combat (this is the one Argenta used)), being preternaturally accurate with their weapons (represented mechanically by replacing to-hit and to-wound dice with dice that already show 5's and 6's from a miracle dice pool), and many more.
>>553617561I figure she was pretty shy in her army daysIf DH is a prequel, which it might be given the presence of Aspys Chorda, I'd like to come across Jae >[Cpl Heydari can help you examine the forged documents]>You encounter a small woman with an unusual neck augmentation, almost hidden behind a desk overflowing with papers>[Awareness] On the edge of the desk you notice a datapad displaying a holonovel: "A Princess of Efreet - A Tale of the Koronus Expanse"
>>553618198>they're both good, and both better than the first one.I can agree on that
>>553618253it's not a prequel, it takes place during/after noctis aeterna which happens at the beginning of rogue trader. aspyce is there because she was MIA, not dead. incendia fully expected her to pop up again.
>>553617673Better or worse is not the point.>>553618253She might be more reserved, but I doubt she was ever that shy.
>>553618148Sounds like your approach to the final fight was more effective than mine. I ended up slogging it out and delayed directly assaulting the boss.
>>553618198>People of her faction literally get to cheat whenever the Emperor feels like it.So it's Emperor's will that actual canon Sororitas ALWAYS job and die.
>>553618460Oh ok interesting.
>>553618645they're women, it's not their fault
>>553618645Thats just a realistic portrayal of women in combat rolls.
>>553618645because they are the fetish fuel faction
>>553618914What if my fetish is seeing Sisters winning and being happy?
>>553619002only way to do so is to become a chaos god
>>553619002we need to make Argenta into a skinsuit to win
>>553618645They are one of Games Workshop's punching bag factions, alongside the Eldar. They die by the millions every single day all across the galaxy. Their faction's identity is "martyrdom". They constantly die in droves in order to fight the enemies of humanity.However, they're pretty effective nonetheless. They are highly trained and use very expensive equipment and vehicles. on top of that, they have the whole faith and miracles system, where bullets bend away from them and dead people stand up and and start glowing and flying on wings. So they're in this unique space where they do die in droves constantly, but ultimately as a faction they're still pretty effective at getting the job done and are respected/feared. But at the end of the day, they're only human, and die accordingly.This is in contrast to Astartes, who are small in number and very elite, and Imperial Guard, who die even more than they do and are not particularly individually impressive and generally win through sheer numbers supported by artillery and vehicles. So they are the middle ground between the standard army and the Astartes. Medium in number, and die much more than Astartes but less than Guard. The Guard and the Sororitas do the heavy lifting for defending the Imperium, while the Astartes are only a few million in number and are used sparingly as a scalpel where they are needed most, in contrast to the Guard and Sisters who are the main bulk.
>>553619165The Sisters would reject you because you are male btw
>>553619002Weirdo
>>553619165>However, they're pretty effective nonethelessAt never getting a single win to their name. The closest they get is>And they all died but kinda sorta made the enemy pause for a moment It's shit writing and you're rationalising shit writing.
>>553618585I'd imagine taking Haymar instead of the Kroot or Saro would work even better, with how much crazy damage he can vomit onto enemies. What did you run?I am a bit worried that the two psykers we've seen might be a bit too mandatory. Inflicting stagger at long range is crazy strong, and is I've found way, way more consistent at interrupting enemy actions than Epione (which is hilarious, because she forces 2 checks every time she shoots). I hope that the spire companions also have options for interrupting
>>553619165Can you go pollute the /tg/ board for once
>>553619165>>553618198thanks. I like learning more about 40k after only playing rt
>>553619618Every time he shows up there, he gets gangraped for being a clueless rambling retard who can't even interpret source material right.
>>553613181should have chosen sebille or minthy as your dolly
>>553619759but I was told that Mintharafag is a scholar and a gentleman?
>>553619759Good he's autistic retard
>>553619603Saro, Kroot, Laarthyr, Epione, CoggI think I just played it too cautious. Haymar was great at dumping out damage but I figured he deserved a break.
>>553620285>>553620285>>553620285
Where is the next thread?
So there's one guy who>defends Sister Argenta's wisdom and judgement>defends Jon Irenicus from allegations of sexual misconduct>declares (baselessly) that Dragonfall is superior to Hong KongWhat else can this man do
>>553620503>What else can this man dobe obese and clockable
