Previous: >>554051070>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSDec 02 Python Commandos [YouTube] Helldivers 2 - Python Commandos Warbond TrailerDec 04 Liberate the Magma Worlds [YouTube] HELLDIVERS™ 2: Into the Unjust | Liberate the Magma WorldsDec 18 Killzone Warbond [YouTube] HELLDIVERS™ 2 x Killzone Legendary WarbondDec 18 Festival of Reckoning [YouTube] HELLDIVERS 2 | Celebrate The Festival of ReckoningJan 20 Redacted Regiment [YouTube] Helldivers 2 – Redacted Regiment Warbond>LATEST PATCHESDec 02 1.005.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621274Dec 05 1.005.001 (stratagem menu reload crash hotfix)
Feh, I made this in a rush and unfortunately 4chanX's auto-embed fucked the Youtube links.
>>554173082Don't worry Anon, happens to the best of us!
So where will the blob move to after nivel is liberated?
>Why yes, I will sacrifice killmogging in order to not only lock down all advancing enemies and make defending objectives a breeze, but I'll also highlight them as well thanks to the very visible EMS field, of which I shit continuously right until my cooldown is nearly finished, in which you can drop another one of me
>>554174000It's a useless piece of shit no matter how you try to highlight it.
>Dickle>Ultimatum>Incendiary Impact Grenades>Grenade Launcher>Portable HellbombTie me to an ICBM and fire me at Cyberstan, I am ready
>>554174195>NOOOOO IT DOESN'T GET ME AUTOMATIC KILLS IT'S BAD
>>554174327>I-IS THAT A SENTRY DOING WHAT A SENTRY IS MEANT TO DO????>AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
>>554174000>went from one of the best stratagems to one of the worstIt's almost like the game got easier. Same story with stun grenades
Man there are so many guns that could do with at least +33% increase to their ammo-pool.What do we get instead?Fucking -50% ammo from resupplies.>j-just bring the resupply pack!!Shut up alexus.
>>554174474It never changed, it's still good.
>>554174664>he’s not laserpilledLe mao
>>554174712No it's bad because stunning enemies is pointless now. Rapid acquisition briefly brought it back but that's temporary content
>>554175016>Borderline zero-percent chance of friendly fire consistent lockdown with a near-perpetual uptime that doesn't care about LOS blocking Still good. Still take it on all factions, still puts in work. Still makes them all a joke.
>>554174474They nerfed stun grenades a few times
>>554174797Plasma-pilled actually.I just wish there was more to life.
>>554175171You don't need to make them a joke, they're already a joke. Just kill them
>>554175917This, the game is too easy now I just end up taking my estrogen while I wait for the randoms to finish it for me. I'll always mourn the amazing grunt fantasy milsim that chuds bullied the devs out of making.>J-just stop running Eruptor+Ultimatum+Thermite+RRNo :P
>>554174474>went from one of the best stratagems to one of the worstIt was never that good to begin with, and now that gas is just stun+ it's completely obsolete.
>>554174000that shit was amazing in the bars missions
Base liberatorSenatorEATThat's all I need.
>>554176327>....while I wait for the randoms to finish it for me.>"do everything for me!"woman moment
>>554174000I don't always pick it, but when I do, I bring both Mortars
>>554174239They will pay for the blood THEY have shed. We will slay all that we can. I'll give my life, FOR SUPER EARTH! LET ME DIE ON CYBERSTANNNNNN!!!
>crossbow>ultimatum>thermite>democracy protects>napalm barrage>sentry>portable hellbomb>solo siloAt last, the ultimate nerftroon killmogging chad loadout
>>554176891can be improvedsiege ready instead of DPportable hellbomb and solo silo are both not OP because the former is just a shittier 500kg and the latter's only niche is fac striders and command bunkers, so it's probably the best choice for that mission type, but instead I'd grab recoilless rifle or supply pack
>>554176832Based
>>554177401Quasar and guard dog also work. Why burden yourself with a support weapon that also eats up your backpack slot?
>Fire ABRL flak right into center of shrieker swarm just like the video.>Kills TWO shriekers.Dogshit. Better off taking a stalwart as AA.
>>554176891>crossbow>ultimatum>thermite>siege ready>napalm barrage>rocket sentry>500kg>supply packthere you go
>Found 8 super cash drops on D1 BlisticaI thought it was capped at 5 per mission?
I still can't believe they're delaying the updateWhat a disappointment the swedes are
Genuinely what is the point of the Stalwart
>>554178310I mean we all know for a fact it's because Arrowhead got cold feet about the Warbond after every Youtuber said stealth in this game is shit.>>554178489It's to use alongside your Eruptor, Torcher or Plasma Accelerator.
>>554178489A pseudo primary used for horde clear whenever you pick something like dominator or scorcher. They should've made it a primary like in HD1 though.
>>554178310They really just tested the weapons on D5 like they do with all new content and thought that it worked as intended. This literally explains every single nerf and broken mechanic in the game.
>>554178310But anon, now we can enjoy this story arc even more as they stretch it with bug kill farming and bot defense MOs
>enable crossplay>enjoy the brownest behaviour online gaming has to offer
>open game>I'm 500SC short
How should I use the gas speargun effectively, I really want to love this thing but I dont think I'm using it right.
>>554179656This. had a nasally autist on Omicron with an open mic make shitty jokes and keep bitching how we have to "kill the worm or he'll give us trouble", only to not follow us into the cave and waste 6 reinforcements until the host finally kicked him
>>554179656>censoring their usernameswe know it's the average hdg lobbygoer now
>>554179871You got an extra 2-3 weeks, you should be fine
>>554180253>You got an extra 2-3 weekswhat fuckup did they discover?
>>554180515I don't know, that's the generous estimate I'm giving Swedish dev time
>>554180515They were forced to play a game stealthly and realized that stealth is completly fucked
>>554180225Actually it's just (me) and some randoms. I just don't bother censoring subhumans.
d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240976986897/76561198066017633
>>554179656>everyone is riding around in the FRV doing objectives>all except for the host who is deliberately trying to solo (he's wearing the hell-bent helmet, of course)>he later blindly walks into the line of fire as we're doing a driveby on a huge horde of enemies>throws a tantrum and kills the whole squad and the FRV (with the ultimatum, of course) before ragequitting>no one acknowledges this and we finish the mission few minutes afterWhat compels them to act this way?
>>554179656Bugs worlds are cursed. I did a D3 with randoms and we nearly ran out of reinforcements.
>>554178489? Set to its max RPM and blast shit. It's a better maxigun.>Muh medium pen.Not worth it because you're movement cucked and eyesight cucked the instant you fire that gun. Anything you're designed to be magdumping with the stalwart to begin with always has light enough armour for you to use it against too.
>>554180814failed to join even though I'm in your helldivers friends list, joining from ingame doesn't work either. your link might be wrong
>>5541808142/4
>>554180721Did they really? fucking kek.
>>554180721Proof? I keep seeing people say that stealth being broken is the reason but no evidence.
>>554180879>What compels them to act this way?Main character syndrome in a game and a very low IQ.
>>554181157Ping the 'cord sister.
>>554181264>in a game - and*where your life is worth fucking nothing*
>>554174000The mortar's hot sister.
>see non-aggroed roach>a-ha I'll use le stealth to avoid it!>prone in some shrubbery>it remains non-aggroed but is circling overhead>keeps circling>keeps circling>on the 10th circling give up and blast it with the railcannonOh yeah stealth's gonna be lit my dudes.
>>554178489A straight up middle finger from AH as it was a primary weapon in the first game.
rehosting steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240978265701/76561198066017633
>>554178310My theory is that they didn't update the stats for the weapons from when the warbond was first leaked. Just look at the stats for this POS
>>554180515alexus told me that stealth is too strong, so they need some time to nerf it just before the stealth warbond
>>554181548Cool strawman. Ever played on any difficulty above 3 btw?
>>5541818073/4
>>554181812this is literally just a liberator copypaste?
>>554181812I just want another non-bullpup that isn't shitty or boring.
>>554180515The lure mines didn't work.
>>554181812Changing weapon damage numbers is not something that requires delaying an entire warbond. They've shipped weapons with shitty stats in the past and fixed it up afterward, like with the Adjudicator and Tenderizer.Delaying the entire warbond means something bigger is the problem.
>>554182228Yeah lib carbine but worse>Less damage because muh suppressor>No drum mag upgrade because they won't design a model for non-bullpup weapons
>>554182675>>No drum mag upgrade because they won't design a model for non-bullpup weapons>
All right chat, guess where the Blob is headed next, and whether or not Joel's going to throw an attack at one of the planets within the next three hours.
>>554181807DIVING with 3
>>554181807full
>>554182780Gaellivare. It's being sieged already but people are too retarded to take advantage of it
>>554182747What's with the gold bling
>>554182747So they can make drum mags for non-bullpup ARs. Why hasn't the pacifier and adjudicator got one then.
just had a pc reset hardcrash at extract with a 35 min game, yea im done, I cant wait til DRG season 6 hits
>>554185412>PC Reset Hard CrashThat's your hardware, anon...
>>554185412check your ram, for this pile of shit to crash and take the whole system to come with is uncommon.
Are there any mods that just randomize your loadout for you?Someone said it's already a feature in-game but I can't find it in the settings anywhere
>>554186615it is in the first gameotherwise you have to use a third party website
>>554185412This *just* happened to me too; what in the fuck is going on?Is the planet blowing up right now or something for the MO/Event?
>>554185412It normally does that when loading in for me
>>554185412I've had a similar issue but just a hard lock
>>554172936They're delaying the warbond because they forgot to nerf the base player stealth. Can't release new content without taking something away from the players first.
>>554187990What the fuck is there to nerf?
>>554187990This is what they are doing. Bots will now detect you from 300m away.
>>554188170They already do that...>>554188143This: what stealth?
why does the regular punisher feel so much better against bugs than the slugger?
>>554188538Because the Slugger is for single target killing, not chaff decimation.
>>554188538slugger is too clean. punisher causes their heads to literally explode.
>>554178489The stalwart is by far the best MG support in the game. The MMG trades too much handling and lack of moving reload for marginally more power, and the HMG is too unwieldy. And obviously the maxigun is shit.
>>554185565>>554186083>>554187257it didnt 'reset' my pc it just froze completely and my pc wouldnt do anything so i had to manually turn my pc off then back on \This happens to me once in awhile, thought everyone experiences this
>>554188801This anon is retarded, ignore him.>>554178489It's for clearing hordes of chaff on bugs or squids, which a number of primaries already do better.
>>554189051Nope. That's a hardware issue, anon. You've got something going bad, likely the mobo.If it was RAM or CPU you'd get a simple CTD.If it was your GPU you'd get artifacting or a black screen.Mono failure (usually chipset) is what causes stuck image hard locks.
>check on planet options>Penta>foggy shit forest>Valmox>ion storm ridden red grassland>Zagon Prime>dry piece of shitRed grasslands are great for comfydiving and dry planets are at least good for farming. Forests are dogshit topography strat-cucking bundles of dry crap. I'm glad it's going to be turned into a baseball sized paperweight for Brasche's mounting pile of award acknowledgent documents. Rest in shit.
>>554178489rapes squids but you need to bring something else to deal with interlopers and harversters
>>554189051this is definitely not normal i have changed 3 PCs none had that issue.However it is only Helldivers that i have issue on one that freezes for 4 sec then continues. Must be some sound bug.
>>554189051if ctrl alt del dindt work its almost the same as a hard crash, unless mouse cursor and keyboard lights were still responsive.
>>554189320il update my drivers, but you have to admit only HD2 would fuck up a pc this much, i dont get this on any other game
>>554189549HD2 (and any Stingray game like Darktide, ect) are particularly rough on the memory controller, but it's not the engine that's causing the faults. You've got faulty hardware that it's stressing more than other games. The hardware is still faulty.Chipset drivers may help, but they may also not.
>>554189362>>554189549>HD2 is spyware that comes with a free game>SE Goverment developed it as a way to boost patriotism while farming citizens PC power for themselvesWe are reaching Media Literacy levels previously thought inconceivable.
>>554189320stuck image is also GPU failureif you put the PC to sleep or somehow manage to reset the driver with ctrl win shift b it would most of the time come back
lobby doko
>>554189078>no argumentI accept your concession
>>554181807GGs!
>>554189859I've never had a gpu fail give stuck images, personally. Only the mono.
>>554182675They're gonna give it insane drag because its le supposed to be le stealth weapon
Wish we had more one-handed primary weapons that aren't smgs
lobbysteam://joinlobby/553850/109775240986877105/76561198141964882we killing bugs this time
>>554187990I made the joke earlier but it does track
>>5541904912/4
>>554189078>which a number of primaries already do better.No primary does it like stalwart outside maybe torcher.
>>554188801This is kinda true honestly. MMG sucks because it can't kill heavies like hulks. It can kill swarms of hive guard but outside omnicron that doesn't mean much.
>non-MO progress on a squid planetLETS FUCKING GOOO
>>554191231>MMG can’t kill hulksWrong, you are simply a scrub.
>>5541904913/4!!!!!!!one slot leftfor (YOU)!!!!
How do I activate night vision? These night bot missions on the current planet, goddamn I can't see a thing.
>>554190491FULL!
>>554191231Speaking of, I love Omnicron. While forcing a non strategem meta, it genuinely feels like the closest to forcing teamplay we've got. Shame only the flag mission actually feels good to do. Everything else is either fucked by the worm or fucked by corpses blocking the path to the objective. Maybe we'll see a pivot towards more fun coop gameplay this year.
>>554191397That's just players getting extract from 3 squid missions as their PO isn't it
>>554191656someone please leave i wanna join
What would be a good anti-large to go with a torcher against the bugs? I'm thinking spear
>>554191494You can shoot the back outta a hulk with any gun.
>>554191886Ergo, MMG can kill a Hulk. Or a tank. Or a tower or a strider.
>>554191873Honestly I bring chainsaw because I want something to stagger shit and kill medium/elites. I'd say railgun if you can two tap biletitans. But it's kinda ass for medium chaff. Torcher can also kill shit that's weak so maybe just use eagles to whittle down heavies and finish em off with fire?Honestly really depends, worlds your oyster on bugs you can bring a lotta mixed tools.
>>554191649I use sweaty ass CS2 monitor settings when playing on night missionsLow gamma, shadow reduction, higher brightness, etc.
>>554191231MMG sucks against bots because it makes devs flinch on every hit
This new bubble shield buff is pretty cool Quality stuff arrowhead
>>554191873I really don't understand why anyone would ever pick spear over RR.There is nothing the spear does that RR can't do and do better.
>>554192526the spear looks cooler
>>554192497Why are there CONSTANTLY rocks like this all over the place?
>>554192590Also wrong.
>>554191873Unless there are Dragonroaches or Hive Lords, or you just really fucking hate Charger Behemoths, Spear isn't the best option. Recoilless or EAT/Quasar can kill most bug heavies in a single headshot, and Recoilless can even kill all Charger variants with bodyshots (the leg armor can be iffy since they transfer less of the damage to the main body).
>>554192497AIEEEEEEEEEEE RUPTURE STRAINS IN MY BOT MAPS
Super Earth?More like Super Poop!
>>554192526i can fix her
>>554192526that's the whole point to meRR is too good, it's boringspear delivers me some kino without being baby modenothing is better than trying to get a lock under a bile titan and uppercutting it in the sacs with the strongest rocket in the game
it's mid on bots bc swiggers didn't set up multiple lock points so you can't target weakspots for shitbut it's still kino breaking a robonigger's back with a strong rocket
>Fori Prime (shitty earthquakes and digger bugs along with high decay rate) instead of Esker (comfy forest and low decay rate)>fewer on Esker to isolate Bore Rock than on Bore Rock itself (which also has fucking Dragonroaches)>scattered randoms on Gatria, Grand Errant and Achird, none of which hold any isolation valueGods, bug fuckers really are fucking stupid aren't they.
>>554193327*Fori Prime instead of GacruxToo many planets to keep track of.
>>554193327>bug fuckersthey prefer to be called bug chasers you fvcking bigot
when this game is going well, it's fucking amazing, so funbut when this game is not going well, it's some of the most frustrating dogshit you'll ever play
>>554193779>fight your way through hordes of enemies>race against time>finally get to the objective>...>terminal buggedReally deflates the freedom-boner like nothing else.
>>554193779>but when this game is not going well, it's some of the most frustrating dogshit you'll ever playJust had this shit earlier.>placed with 100+ level retards that keep letting bot drops happen while I'm the ONLY guy killing war striders>despite that, keep grinding through each objective>eventually get to a point where we run out of reinforcements>eventually die despite my best efforts>leaveFucking BAFFLING how people get past level 100 and STILL be dogshit with no situational awareness.
>Try taking the minigun to the bot front>My primary is better than it at killing devs>Completely useless against hulks>Utterly fucked beyond help if the mission has war striders>Spend most of the time just running away after i run out of grenade and ulti hoping that my ATs gets off cooldownHoly shit what an awful stratagem. I can even safely say that the Sterilizer and the Flag is better than this shit because at least the sterilizer has a fighting chance against hulks, and the flag and sterilizer doesn't consume a backpack.
>>554194083>call in a game changing strategem during a critical point of a battle>bounces 10 meters out of the way and is completely useless>>554194435>playing bugs>not a single teammate shoots at the bile titans
>>554194435b*gdivers trying out the bots for the first time or something
ballistc backpack vs personal shield vs directional shield
>>554195235>BSToo fragile to have such a long cooldown, but has the bonus of always being "active">PSCrutch for you, an inconvenience for your teammates trying to shoot past you>DSPeak gameplay if you're actually diving in front of your teammates to protect them instead of hanging back like a fag
>>554176571Except he will never be a woman
The changes to stealth will only end in one way. Either:>AH outright removes the enemies' ability to call in reinforcements because it's the only way to make stealth "work" without upsetting redditors.Or>AH successfully implements a proper stealth system like MGS. But since the enemies are so weak, everything will die too quickly before anything can call in reinforcementsEither way the end result is still the same. Reinforcements will become rare during a mission, the game will become even easier, redditors will claim these changes are peak, and bufftoddlers will claim the changes are actually a good thing so that they can save face.
>>554195235ballistic shield > cope bubble >>> directional dogshield
>>554195714PS also fucks over the occasional stim pistol user you see cause the darts get caught on the bubble
>>554195938It's very annoying since it becomes invisible at range, but you still get hit-markers. Always think it's lag or some shit until I check the loadout and see the diaper.
>>554195938>stim pistol users
>proper stealth system like MGS>MGS>proper stealthThere's a reason why MGSfags are not allowed in stealth-threads on /v/.
>>554196317that's why I said occasional I see them once in a blue moon
>>554196317Yes!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240993682244/76561198141817078Something 10 I dunno yet
Thank you!
Affirmative!
Dropships!
I need supplies
i have yet to see a portable hellbomb
>>554196317Stim pistol is tragically locked behind one of the worst warbonds in the game and handles like pure dogshit despite clearly being a plastic, gas operated dart gun. But despite all this, any time a medic joins the game, it feels like a true co-op experience.
I NEED STIMS
>>554197258they totally just forgot to adjust it's sway properly since it was already balanced around having high sway and it just got caught under the blanket sway balancing of all pistolsi swear it wasn't always this shit to use
>>554197562>i swear it wasn't always this shit to useCrazy how this statement is true for almost all the weapons in the game
>>5541968173/4
>>554197258the warbond is good though
>>554197794So true, we should revert the balance to its launch state
>>554198078it's a grenade for 1000 SC
>SG-451 Cookout>round reload incendiary shotgun>takes more than 1 shot to set anything on fire>sometimes kill the enemy with projectile damage before fire can even kick in>took 6 shots at a trooper (all of which connected) and it didn't set him on fire>not good at crowd control>not good at single enemy damage>light armor pen>no attachements besides scopes>top 3 color schemesSweet Liberty have mercy on this thing it's like trying to walk a puppy with both legs on its left side amputated. I feel genuine pity for this gun.
Yes I shot a basic trooper 6 times with a shotgun and it didn't die I'm totally not making shit up to beg for more buffs haha
>>554196817still got a spot?
>>554198151the rest is also good
>>554198551fvll, sorry
>>554198545The spready on this thing is awful. Go look at it in the Weapon Customization recoil sim. I took shots from 20 to 5 meters from higher ground.I don't think more than 2 or 3 pellets per each round made contact but each shot did have contact.It's depressing how bad it is.
>>554198282You're on a whole other level of retardation.
>get daily for killing dudes with the commando>it cant kill anythingi keep shooting them in the face/weakspots and they always need 2-3 shotsthe disposable and recoilless do the same job in a far more efficient way
>>554198997>go to d1>take commando>get commando kills on conscripts while farming super credits
>>554198997>Shoot it at the feet of a trooper>Staggers it for a second>Continued trudgingHaving to land direct hits on troopers was not fun but hey at least it has guided rockets.>>554199145Precisely what I did
>>554198282Dumb fucking moron.
>>554196317There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
>>554196317there's always at least one stim sissy in every /hdg/ lobby
>>554197181I use them in almost every game I play
>>554201135>stim sissy>made erect by another mananon... projection isn't healthy.
>>554198683It wasn't when it came out. Gas was buffed well after the warbond released. The warbond is good now (except sterilizer, which is eternal poo poo.)
Now that Arrowhead is gonna remove the enemy ability to call in reinforcements, how am i supposed to get a big kill number at the mission summary?
>>554199573Do you have anything to the contrary or do I just have to face bigger hordes
>>554193327Angels Venture was too good for this world
>>554201446NTA but you're trolling. Unless you're somehow failing to use one of the best and simplest weapons in the game.
>>554201691Honestly I think I might just be doing that but that was my experience with it. I've had hit markers on a single trooper and it failed to ignite before it died
>gets released in a hyped up crossover warbond>showed up week later by the coyotedownright cruel
>>554202225i've used it and it is an honest to god piece of shit when compared to the Coyote.
>release firebond>nerf fire>release stunbond>nerf stun>release stealthbond>nerf stealthYou know that's how it'll be
>>554201386I unironically like the steralizer. I like combining it with the primary flamethrower.
>>554202225Should've been the 60 round version
>>554202503>>nerf stealthHow?
>>554202225It's a barely interesting sidegrade to Judy, which is already an underpowered weapononly thing going for it is that the FPS view is neat.
>>554202708Removed from the game.
>>554202708Going prone/crouching alerts every enemy within 300 meters
>>554202225goodxboxfaggots deserve less than nothing
>>554202708Gunshots can be heard across the map, and Sven will say it's not realistic for suppressors to be quiet.
>>554202708>increase visibility while crouched and prone>hitting the ground after diving makes a loud noise>scout armor passive now gives the same poi detection increase as odst armor instead of a stealth bonusat least one of these will be true
>attack on HortYou know what, sure, why not.
>needs a point blank shot to kill a trooper in one hitim convinced you guys are just gaslighting me into thinking it's good now
>>554196817Great diving. GGs.
>>554178489pocket mg42
lobbyWe shall defend Hort this daysteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241004137437/76561198008364447
>>554196817ggslove 'em dogs
>>5542060273/4
>>554207106>>554207130I shan't be playing as squids are harder than warstriders
>>554206027full
>>554201386Sterilizer is decent. Being able to easily stun larger stragglers in a thinning horde of bugs without needing to waste a gas nade or orbital gas strike makes it handy. It's a pure supportive tool rather than a direct horde clearer.
>VX-90 Dartfrog>Submachine gun with extremely high fire rate (a-la Knight), medium pen but absolutely awful damage>Inflicts poisoning effect on targetsGood idea?
>>554207690ehwe had an m1a with poison rounds in hd1i'd rather have that
Why does pyrotech have 4 mags?
>>554207830Devs shifted from making upgradable weaponry to themed weaponry to go along with certain warbonds. I haven't played HD1 and from what I've heard the old system was much more fun for progression but since they're not doing that I'm thinking in line with what their vision for it is now.And more importantly I'm trying to make it not unfun.
>>554196539The only stim that should be going on between my diver and yours is his cock inside your ass.
Why does it only go to 99%?
>>554208593Gotta give 1% of the vote to Citizens too or else it wouldn't be democratic.
>>554195235Bubble shield is fun to ignore blizzard/sandstorm slow I guess, but why the fuck did they never look at that change that made it so regeneration when damaged is a whole ass minute? It's weird.
>>554195235not one of the options, but I will never forgive Sweden for nerfing the bubble shield. It no longer stops chargers mid-charge. Extremely gay stealth change.
>>554194812>playing bugs>all teammates shoot at the bile titans, with their primaries
dead gamedead general
>drop into a mission with 2+ already in game>NONE of them have actual AT outside maybe thermite.>As I'm dropping see missions situation.>20+ minutes left. 2 reinforcements left at most. Heavies everywhere.I really need to stop diving into these games. It is always the same.
Every fucking time I try to use a new weapon or support on bots, this fucking game decides to spawn in WAR STRIDERS
>>554211379sorry bozo, time to run RR again
>>554208593The fact people actually voted for the squids worries me
>>554208593what makes penta such a landslide victory?
>>554212139Bugs>it's a hive world so needed for fuel. >capturing it in time is unlikely.Squids>who gives a fuck about squids?>they have a nomadic mysterious vibe so nuking the planet seems overkillThis leaves bots as the only viable option, really. It gets us closer to cyberstan, disrupts their logistics and it was easier to capture.
>>554212139early leadim team valmox because i believe that happens anyways
Does anyone have any hope for the new warbond whatsoever?
>>554213194C4 is strong, but the controls fucking suck so I don't care for it.
>>554212139So, if we ignore the fact that Penta is the first choice when selecting what planet to blow-up and that the majority of the Helldiver 2 Community is a single-cell organism with a singular, if that, brain cell and just Lemmen-tier chose Penta due to being lazy, following the blob mentalityAnd we also assume that people have, to varying degrees, followed what little "story" and "lore" we have, we know that prior to the Black Hole and the event coincide with it; we found out that the Illuminate leading up to that were manipulating the Terminids to cause chaos. We also know that the black hole itself was used by the Illuminate to teleport themselves here for this incursion - creating a black hole in the Illuminate Territory is like giving them another free one to add more to their faction causing a cascade eventAnd we know that the Illuminate can, or did, control the Terminids in a capacity briefly; as well as that we've seen the Terminids can evolve very quickly being in contact or close proximity to other things putting a black hole in Terminid space would spell catastrophe as well.But, blowing up the planet second closes to Cyberstan and if we assume that doing so gives us a beachhead instead of literally deleting one of the few means to gainging access to Cyberstan the benefits outweigh the negatives
He's just standing there... MENACINGLY!
>bring ultimatum>maybe use it onceI might start bringing the stim pistol.
I only got this recently as a gift. Are there any guns or armor that encourage diving around like a sped? I feel like Max Payne right now, just without bullet time
>>554214017How do I use Airburst effectively?I've tried aiming it above enemy blobs/groupings but I always seem to miss half of them.
>>554212139I want more bot content
>>554214071>Are there any guns or armor that encourage diving around like a sped?all of them
>started running into 100 SC spawns againOh fuck they're going to delay it till the anniversary aren't they.It's fucking bad.
>>554214071Peak physique will probably be your favourite armour.
Surely bots are a red herring and squids are the next faction to get a content update. Surely, we're not gonna have another month of filler bug MOs, on a hive world no less.
Jungle biomes wouldn't be so bad, if they didn't have the impossibly dense treelines that that split the map and force to take several minutes to walk around.
>>554214161Centre mass of the enemy mob with flak and try not to get yourself and ur teammates in the splash.
>>554214308Probably, we got leaks to one of the new illustration and title for a new update that shows illuminate breeding chambers
>>554214480>title for a new update that shows illuminate breeding chamberswhen was this leaked?
tired of purifier chargeup portable mortar is my new friend
>>554212139>ValmoxMeme choice. Middle of nowhere planet that might even make the Illuminate stronger if it becomes another warp point.>ZagonI think when voting began we hadn't taken Nivel yet so people entered voting while assuming it wouldn't be an option. I also wonder if the fact that destroying 1/2 hive worlds and putting the second hive world on siege lib might have turned some people off of the idea (basically removing content). Then there's the lore argument for E7-11.>PentaExtra defense for the lesath chokepoint is nice. It is a gamble though because we don't know how the supply lines will work with Merak. If we get Merak out of this deal (we should in my opinion, but this is Joel we're talking about) that's a pretty big deal.
Hort>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241012662732/76561197986229160
>>554214576I couldn't tell you, an Anon posted 2/4th of the image that showed the first few letters of it and in the background showed miniature versions of the motherships we sometimes go against but stone with the oval eggs inside glowing with a sillouttee of a humanoid being.
Y'know since we're on the topic of blob mentality and voters who vote based on who has the higher percentage - how do you think this general would've reacted if something like Zagon or Valmox would've gotten the landslide victory instead?>ZagonI can kind of see there being a case for it as we would also bite off a chunk of the Terminid forces (even though, imo, Omicron should be the target after bugchasers failed that absolute dogshit MO.) Also isn't E-711 a more concentrated form of E-710? Would probably lead to a super dense ball of E-711 to harvest or even the creation of E-712.>ValmoxGenuinely no way this could've been taken seriously if it won. General would clown on it relentlessly and the Arrowhead banted would be even harder than before.
>>554214213Oh good, I was afraid I was playing wrong>>554214273I like what I'm reading on this. I didn't even know melee was really a thing, I found an entrench tool on a map and figured it was probably a shitpost like the shotgun with no ammo you can find on maps sometimes
>>554208593swiggers don't about rounding, only truncating
>>554215114FVLL
I only play bugs and bots.
>>554197325>Affirmative!>psf psf psf psf psf psf>Reloading!
>>5542121391a. Bug fuckers don't participate in the voting system.1b. A hive world is something to be farmed for E-711, not destroyed.2a. Valmox is Super Earth territory, it's only being temporarily occupied so we're going to take it back.2b. It was never hyped up to be some sort of Illuminate stronghold, and the squid territories have been way too fluid so there hasn't been some planet that we've fought over for months that conjures hard memories.3. The bots have easily been the faction that has created the most "traumatic" memories, including the Malevelon Creek campaign and the Jet Brigade, among other things.It makes sense to attack the bots first. The bugs currently do not pose an existential threat, and haven't since Meridia, while nobody cares about the squids that much either after the Defense of Super Earth. If Joel had done a better job of setting up the squid territories, like having them claim Calypso as their "core" planet after the invasion and capturing/fortifying the sector around it, then maybe the squids would have seen a chance at the voting.
What tf, an actual ok loadout!?
>>554194507Minigun is rough because it's basically a mid range gun, but I've actually had a lot of success with it Only downside is that you need rely on your teammates for AT. Shield gen helps a ton.
Why does the orbital precision strike have a longer cooldown than the EAT?
>>554198282AH nerfed the shit outta this weapon frankly. Kinda deserved but not to this degree. For context you could artillery fire this gun into groups of bugs from 50+ meters and get 20+ kills after a couple clicks.
>>554202558I'll try using it as host. The last few times I tried using it it felt like literally nothing.
>>554216635I think you got that post you replied to the other way around.
>>554216924oops
>>554201691You didn't use this shotgun after the fire nerfs and it shows
>>554216638>For context you could artillery fire this gun into groups of bugs from 50+ meters and get 20+ kills after a couple clicks.Isn't that the fucking point? If this thing shoots the same white phosphorus that's used in the instant fire grenade then shouldn't it be setting the ground itself on fire? Even moreso than any of the fucking flamethrowers because those are aerosol meaning their fuel burns in the air and doesn't settle.
>>554216406I think it's because they see the shit you kill around it and the versatility as the major boon to the strat. That and Eats take 3 seconds to drop and 3 seconds to arm when you pull them out. It's a minor thing on paper but you honestly feel it if you don't prep for it for AT. If eats aren't your primary strategem they're kinda hard to fumble with in the middle of a fight. OP as fuck on bots though.OPS feels solid with no cooldown mod and no calling mod, but you almost always run into one or the other ruining it.
>>554216406Because heavies used to be a lot weaker, and you could actually kill them with OPS splash. Now, OPS requires a direct shell hit to kill most heavies, which you aren't going to get unless you're super lucky or pack multiple stuns. So OPS got left behind by the balance updates, and it hasn't seen any proper buffs to address its comparative uselessness since.
>>554213194I don't. Stealth doesn't work nor does it belong in the game. Making enjoyable interesting weapons/strats should be the easiest thing in the world but AH releases shit after shit. If something isn't shit this somehow means it needs to be nerfed.
>>554217068Yeah but that's also broken, like it lights shit on fire better than the close range flamethrower. Not only that it was just brain dead strong, if someone in the lobby had it you didn't even bother with chaff.
>>553990663>>554047932>Eagle 1, armed and ready! took a lot of creative liberty with this one as i didn't really like any of the designs i saw. this doesn't really match the game's aesthetic, but i like it anyway. i also don't have the slightest idea about military prop/outfit design, so forgive me for any weird stuff.
>>554217329Then what the fuck is the point of adding all of this weaponry and parading around the label of "realism" when they'll nerf everything that works IRL into unviability?
>>554217342they'd probably use light Helldiver armor or similar since ours can handle re-entry speed and low pressurelooks pretty nice btw
>>554216638>>554217068Unironically what guns are good right now, I'm returning and finding a lot of the guns I enjoyed seem really neutered.
can we just get kz2 remaster with online support?tranny gg games would rather kill themselves
Rate my bot loadout:Deadeye or Counter SniperTalonThermitegunsligner armorBallistic shieldQuasar or EAT500kg120mm orbital or strafing run
>>554217795>Talon + GunslingerIt's shit.
>>554213194Smokes are good so impact smokes might be a direct upgrade, ironically if you're not using them for stealth. C4 will be meta, gas pistol will be solid in a lot of setups. Suppressed guns are sidegrades and it just matters how good they sound. The new armor is also basically an upgrade to any stealth armor, so if you're running light armor on bots and smoke you have better de-aggro which will help you fight with your team. Fuck anyone that expects to use stealth stealth though genuinely.
>>554217795Not bad, I like AMR with my build of explosive armor to help if I'm tanking hits with ballistic. Ballistics main use case is storming shit and head tapping devs. So whatever you like headpopping with best is your best pick. Gun slinginger talon is kinda redundant tho
>>554217749Coyote and Crossbow if you wanna turn off your brainDeadeye, Liberator, Tenderizer, Adjudicator if you wanna get shit done and have an ok timeThere is no shotgun besides the Double Freedom that's even close to good atmScorcher and Purifier are okay plasma weaponsDouble Sickle with Fire Resistant armor will melt through literally anythingDominator is okayThe rest of the primaries are near complete dogshit or will take a lot of getting used to.Senator, Redeemer, Grenade Pistol and Loyalist go-toTalon is memey but doableDo not touch the Ultimatum - they nerfed it into a piece of complete horseshit with a drop off so bad you'll basically kill yourself anytime you don't aim so high you cannot see the enemy anymore (also it can't destroy side objectives anymore)Melees are a meme but funnyIgnore literally every single new Support Weapon and go for Backpacks or DronesPick any grenade you like any of them can be made to work
>>554213194I do. I think it'll be great.
>>554217749If by good you mean it can do everything without having to tailor your kit around it, it's the usual suspects, and in order:>Eruptor>Crossbow>Coyote
>>554216638>hey we finally fixed fire damage>but now it's so powerful that only enemies are allowed to use it
>>554213194They will try to appease both the people who want stealth gameplay and the people who don't and end up pissing off everyone somehow.
>>554217905>>554218170I also use fortified armor, but sometimes the talon takes forever to focus so I like it to aim more quickly.
>>554218405>Pick any grenade you like any of them can be made to worklol
>>554219049That thing is good for chaff clearing if you airburst itIt's the absolute worst and I've still found a way to make it work
>>554219117it doesn't kill chaff, though, save for scavs
>>554213194I did before they canned it over the leak. Now they can't even release it when they want to. Did they honestly make all of this shit, not play test it at all, make a goddamn trailer, and then put it back on the shelf after streamers got to actually play it with it? Eravin dodged a fuckin bullet by not being a part of AH's pro bono cock sucking playtester squad. I feel bad for the other guys. I like a couple of em.
>>554219117its mediocre at that frankly. just take dynamite if you want a fuckoff grenade
>>554219724eeeeehhh... I've found that it's not that good at chaff clearing franklyThe damage radius is smaller than I'd expected. It's mostly good for taking out groups of mediums
I finally got the torcher to level 25. I no longer have to use that awful gun until I max everything else.
>>554217795Talon is so good that gunslinger doesn't really help it much. You would get way more mileage with siege armor buffing your deadeye. Ballistic shield is meh, but I'm sure you know that. If you're not just running it for fun, I agree with the other anon that AMR is a ton of fun against bots.
>>554219942fair guess I'm saying if you want big boom take dynamite, if you're looking for anti-lite chaff only take frags. You'll get the same if not more kills with a frag grenade than you will with pineapple. even if enemies bunch up. >>554220068were you not playing host, torcher is frankly amazing
>>554219117It's not even as good as a basic bitch frag grenade, snd you get more of those tooGod they always butcher nice things
>>554217795PS if you really want to flex your gunslinger armor, use it with a bushwhacker against bugs.
>>554220275I just quickplay. Is the host proximity bug still a thing? I thought they fixed that ages ago.
>>554217749everything but lasers, abjudicator, pacifier, and liber conc.
>>554220567>abjudicator slanderIT'S A GOOD GUN AND I'M TIRED OF PRETENDING IT ISN'T.
>>554220567>abjudicatorIts good
>>554220567>lazors are badHow did they break lasers? They used to be so good.
>>554219049This thing coulda been great if the bomblets dropping from it had the same damage as the ABRL bomblets
>>554220740They're limited to 200 meters.>"realistic"The Laser Cannon is the only really good one besides the Dickle. This thing MELTS Hulks.
>>554220546yeah it's still a known issue. Torcher is pretty rewarding if you build into stunns and spacing in your kit. Like it's obviously hard to hit shit when it's hitting you through fire, but you will get 20-30 kills per tank if you use it properly. >>554220710>>554220724It's just kinda mid in almost any category, way too much of a jack of all trades with poor controls. I'd rather use DCS. >>554220740Fire build up is a lot worse if you're not host, bugs got buffed to be a lot tankier too. Sickle is considered one of the weakest guns in the game right now. Scythe is fine against devs though, and DE is great but you need to have the armor for it.
>>554221005As far as guns that require skill go, the Adjudicator is up there for rewarding good aim along with the Deadeye. 30 rounds is deceptive - you can mow down a small crowd of Devs if your aim is good without even emptying the mag.
>>554220819could have been great if AH didn't fuck up and swap explosive damage for projectile damage (projectiles which hit indirectly and have zero pen).
>>554221147still takes two shots though to headpop, which is basically the baseline with every other gun in the market. If anything it feels like a handicap because the recoil kicking up over heads and the slow ergo. Like if you've got peak physique it's serviceable sure, but it's not really better outside maybe distant headpops with pp.
>MOO
>>554221532It takes two? Strange. I've found it performs better than the Dilligence Counter in some situations and I've had it do headpops in a single shot. Did they change the armor and health values on Devs when I wasn't looking? I've been running the Deadeye and CounterD the last few days.
>>554221684THROWING A GRENADE!or just takes everyone back to lobby.
eeyerp, 110 is the magic number plus some change for drag.
>>554221684ngl I find them to be kinda cute, silly fat bugs
>hawk tuah
forgot to >>554222045>>554221832
>>554215114gg
Lobby doko
>>554220710>>554220567I am here to relay sad news to the both of you, as it was once relayed to me:The rifle you speak of is not called aBjudicator, but rather aDjudicator.You may now kneel and weep, as I once had.
Oh yeah, give me that fucking dopamine hit right into my veins.
>>554218405>There is no shotgun besides the Double Freedom that's even close to good atm???Both the Cookout and Breaker Incendiary still get work done on bugs and squids.
>>554224121For /hdg/ if the weapons don't one to two tap all enemies types the gun is ass.
Did they increased the fire rate on the Warrant? I feel like it fires faster than before, almost as if they gave it a binary trigger or something like that, am I going schizo?
>>554224263That is correct.
>>554178489It fucks Squids silly.
>>554224121I've run the Cookout for several dives now and this thing's ability to set even a single trooper on fire is questionable at best.As for the Breaker Incendiary - same deal. A bit more consistent on setting things on fire but the damage is horrendous.
>>554225306Why are you using an incendiary shotgun against the faction that is essentially immune to fire damage?
how does the crispr vs. factory strider belly interaction actually work? would it work with a torcher or a flamethrower?
>>554226470
>>554226669I mean I imagine it'd be slightly faster but why would you ever bring the torcher or flamethrower to bots
>>554227507
>>554188801This pretty much.
>>554226669yeah it's actually pretty solid against warstriders too. Like 2 seconds to kill back vents.
>>554192265I agree, it's stupid how theres a stagger that spreads their arms open but they decided to give that to primaries only. It feels really ass on bots, and you don't have a front facing answer for any heavies. So you basically get the worst of both worlds. HMG at the very least is hyper versatile in what it can kill on bots.
>>554173268You just going to keep spamming this arnt you even though you got your DOA gun?
>>554223371what the fuck kinda illuminate pysop is this shit. I refuse to believe it's been adjudicator this entire time.
>>554229897abjudicator isn't a word silly billy
>>554223371it's always been Adjudicator idfk why I typed it with a b just then.
>>554229897Sex with the iluminate
>ck>always wearing Parade Commander helmet>Peter Principle'd to giving out opinions about how shit should workGod is nothing if not a comedia.
>>554231969>a meme weapon is gonna get nerfed because a retard youtuber made hating it a part of his online personaPain.
>>554232418crossbow could use a nerf frankly, like it's been a braindead pick for a while. It does everything unless you're really bad at zoning enemies. It's not fun to take because you don't need to build around it.but also fuck nerf troons.
>>554232669We give them an inch and they'll take a mile.I would sooner our entire arsenal get buffed and enemies be made more numerous to compensate than have to deal with hearing some nerftranny say xey were right in any way. >pic related
>>554232669>need to build around itthis cope only works if the gun is mega op with synergyat a baseline your gun should work with no real planning. might not work that well but it should work
>>554232418>meme weapon
>>554232669It's fun to take because it's a primary that works with shields, and I will take anything that lets me pretend shields have a use case
>>554232931I mean that's exactly what crossbow is though. It's "mega OP" with no thought needed, and you barely need to build around it. The best argument I can make for it being balanced is that you can't take ultimatum with it. Like torcher will nigger flay chaff, but you need stuns and positioning to make it work. It also doesn't chew through mediums and reds well. Crossbow you just flick into hordes of enemies and you're done. Like I'd honestly give it less shots, give it a fat AOE and a slower fire rate. Just so it punishes you hard if you face shot it.
>>554233216crossbow is a shitty plasma gun that can close bugholesif its op the plasma shotgun is rape
>>554232669You should kys frankly.
>checking his "underrated" primaries vid>Cookout>less than 1% pick rate>immediately acknowledges nerfSo I take it all of you niggers gaslighting me were busy guzzling his cock.I said that thing was absolute ass now and all I hear is that it was absolute ass before now too.
>>554233785No idea who you're talking about but before the fire dot nerf I always used cookout especially in bugs. Used to light shriekers in fire instantly.
>>554232669Do people who want primaries nerfed have no self control or something? Just don't use it.
>>554234871that's as retarded as- >if you think a weapon is underpowered just don't use it.LIke I think nerfing shit because it's out performing other weapons is gay and retarded, but a weapon that's unfun to use because it's brain dead should be nerfed. Like not even a big nerf, just something that actually makes it harder to use so I need to use a single braincell with it.
>>554234871Who knows. People wanting shit nerfed in a pve game are weird losers.
D10 botssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241025108030/76561198050013591Been a bit since I've played but now its time to get back into it
>>554233452Yeah but plasma gun has low ammo so you can't use it all the time. Same with most other primaries that one click hard. Theres usually a caveat with the weapon, crossbows only weakness is that it doesn't kill lone chaff efficiently, and it can hit yourself in the face if actively trying to kill yourself.
>>554235157Shut the fuck up. You might actually be an AH employee you're so fucking stupid.
>>554235392FULL
>>554235157>but a weapon that's unfun to use because it's brain dead should be nerfed.Buff the enemy AI then, Sven.
>Crossbow>Eruptor>Purifierwhy does everyone think these weapons are top tier? they are the slowest weapons in the gamethe Liberator shits all over these on bots
>>554236857>AP2>zero splash damage>zero staggering forceYeah, sure, maybe at difficulties where you only ever fight Troopers.
>>554234871Mongoloids wanted things to be nerfed because doing so will make them feel validated for using dog shit guns>Stop eating food! Start eating shit like me so I won't feel like a weirdo!>We should normalize eating shit so when the day comes, people won't laugh at me for eating shit all this time!
>>554235157I never use the term but you make me finally see why the term nerftroon is fitting.
The 'Overpowered' status of explosive primaries is moderated by shitters' tendency to kill themselves with it three times every match. Its balanced.
>>554237210All relevant weakpoints are unarmored/light armorAimKill quicker (impossible to do with those weapons)Definition of noob trap
>>554236857See>>554224263If the weapon can't one to two shot all enemies it MUST have a secondary effect that makes it worth slotting it over something else - i.e. the Crossbow is not only strong damage output, has a small AoE radius to take out multiple enemies it can also be used to take out Terminid Holes, Small and Medium Automaton Turrets, and can one-tap the devices that keep the Illuminate EMP Field Up and can two-tap Illuminate Ships on the ground (one to the shield one into the door)Now compare that to 90% of the other weapons in the game? See the issue?
>>554237795No I don't see the issue, I can kill 10x more enemies with the Liberator
>>554238075Why are you conflating theoretical DPS with practical DPS?
>>554238189>theoretical Have you tried gitting gud?
He won.
>>554238189I'm being lenient and assuming you actually hit anything with the AoE
The xbow was shitty when it had a tiny AP2 AoE that dealt no damage, anyone who wants that back is mentally ill. And I say that as someone who thinks "game too easy"
>>554238478
>Sloptubers are trying to make a case to nerf the crossbowLiterally why?
>>554240969The crossbow has been deserving of a nerf for well over a year at this point. The ones making videos about it now are extremely late to the party.
>>554241204Okay but why do you need it nerfed?
>>554240969He optimized the fun out of the game and he needs to devs to fix it for him.
>>554241342Because...it just needs to be, okay? Other divers use it too much apparently, which ruins my immersion.
>>554241342Depends, are you trying to make some sort of bad faith argument?
>>554241725Im suggesting you just dont use it if it stresses you out this much.
>>554240969To divert devs away from the eruptor of course.
>>554241901I was just wondering that too. I see Eruptor far more than the crossbow. Just feels really forced to whine about the crossbow and using mental gymnastics to say how its actually better than the eruptor.
>>554241814>stressOh, so you're tilting windmills at imaginary adversaries by putting words in the mouths of people who disagree with you.
>>554241342erm...because the sloptuber told me so, NO I AM AN INDEPENDENT THINKER GOD DAMN IT
>>554240969I can't stand content creators anymore.They played a good part in ruining Destiny 2 along with Bungie themselves; just constant back and forth of nerfing everything>people leaving the game>buffing what they nerfed>people coming back>removing content/dlc>repeatAnd through all of it you had dozens and dozens of content creators complaining things are to easy or to hard.Basically Bungie and the 1% Elitist killed it.Same thing is happening here; there's a loud minority of people complaining the game is to easy and weapons are to strong and then it conflates due to content creators and their communities that exacerbate the loud minority.Your average normie player, who make up most of the player base no matter who wants to deny it go in for a few missions, have fun exploding things; getting that dope hit for feeling like they're in Starship Troopers or a 80's Action Flick and dip - rinse and repeat.
>>554242265The reaction people here have to certain weapons legitimately stresses people out. Just not sure why you need a weapon nerfed this badly.
>>554242438First step is to stop using their bullshit made up job description.
>level 1 crossbow>8 months without using it outside picking it up from the groundit's neither fun nor OP, I really don't understand. For reference the other level 1 weapons I have are the Blitzer and the Pummeler
>>554242438>Basically Bungie and the 1% Elitist killed it.Its funny how many games try to appeal to sweats and end up shooting themselves in the foot.
the crossbow is perfectly balanced by how absolute fucking ASS it feels to actually use. almost no audio or visual feedback when shooting it, it feels like you spend more time reloading it than shooting it, and it feels like you only shoot it like twice before you're empty and need to reload because of the aforementioned absence of feedback
>be nerf indian>never used the [thing]>demands [thing] to be nerfed anywayWhy? Ego?
>>554242880izzat
>bug flags are the perfect opportunity to have a four man squad stand their ground against a massive swarm of fast little bugs>most common seed for bug flags are spewers who are either bullet sponges if using bullets or are instantly chain blown up using any sort of explosive
>>554242926>nerfing powerful gear so they can get more izzat from using mediocre gear100%
>>554243017Almost like bugs are a bad faction.
Is this some kind of new discord meme to pretend like crossbow isn't the best primary in the game or did this general get a sudden influx of actual retards.
>>554243208Crossbow is incredibly mid. Its just retards trying to throw their weight around.
>>554242626Unironically.Not to go further into it but there were maybe five or six elitist content creators and they either were on YouTube or a Twitch Streamer.One guy in particular, can't recall the name entirely, complained that Well of Light, which players use to bypass getting damaged in tight DPS windows against bosses lasted to long.He floats between 1k viewers to 5k when he does raids (even more) and his sicophents started to go nuts, spread through Discords, Twitter, ect with their complaints, parroting their gods opinion and Bungie listened. This guy is the 1% sweat and Bungie listened to his complaint where the majority of other players are normie/hardcore casuals suddenly mfs aren't able to finish end-game content as readily. That's just a small example of a lot of what happened "Bungie - We listen to our players" who are a loud minority who spend 80% of their lives on Twitter, Twitch and Discord; they started to cater to this Twitch Streamer Live Service need to grind so they can keep streaming, burned people out and these fucks are going "How did that happened, I don't understand why Bungie did exactly what I and my sycophants wanted"I digress though, Helldivers 2 and the community and I'm going to assume that a lot of the HD2 content creators lurk here or pop in for a few seconds OR their fans are in here as well as on the Sub-Reddit and are parroting what their favorite YouTuber/Streamer wants removed/nerfed and then the 90% of the player base who just want to have fun go "what the fuck happened, why can't I use this weapon and just have fun?"These are mostly large, swath of generalizations but the idea is the same
Why is /hdg/ so fixated on imaginary indians?
>>554243017>bug flags>gatling sentry + mg sentry + minigun>bug spewer seed>three corpses block all the fucking bullets>chargers walk unimpeded and destroy the sentries
>>554243208Join 3-4 randoms and find me more than 2 crossbow users in all those games then tell me how many eruptor and lib pen users there were in those same games. Then explain how there are so few users if it's so OP.
>>554243208>sudden influx of actual retards.Sudden? It's been like this for awhile. No oldfags left anymore.
>>554243552It's one or two Anons specifically, one I swear is from Europe or the UK and that is ALL they do in here is complain about Indian and Troon boogiemen.If anything its undiagnosed schizophrenia from some high functioning autist and can't just fucking move on and we all have to suffer
>>554202225novelty guns shouldn't be top tier performers.That said, I've dropped with this assault rifle plenty of times and it gets the job done decently. It should only be a problem if you're some meta fag that screams and shids himself just because you're not playing at absolute 100% efficiency at all times like some turbo 'tism fag.
>>554242478And according to you, every single person who disagrees with you has the exact same opinion and feels exactly the same way. That's wonderful.
>>554243731guess what all those eruptor users were running before it got buffed into S++++ tier? newfag
>>554243764if you were an oldfag you'd know the xbow was fucking worthless before the buffs
>>554243884You sound stressed
Bots Gaellivare>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241031783484/76561197986229160
>>554243610>bugs can noclip through corpses>both bot and bug can deal damage to you through wreckage and corpses>you can'tHonestly swiggers NEED to remove that shit already, the original vision was probably so that you can climb on the corpse of a Bile titan to farm aura or some shit.
pls buff the damage
>>554244085fvll?
>>554243731I only ever play with randoms because I'm a masochist and in the past week playing I've only ever seen the following... Erupetor, Coyote, Adjudicator with Coyote and Adjuicator being what I see most then it's a few Lib/Lib Pens and then Lib Carb. Outside of that I might dip into a ongoing match where people are soft RPing as characters from Killzone and or Halo with their entire loadout being from said warbonds. Then they either usually always have Supply Pack, Hot Dog or RecoilessRarest I've seen have been Crossbow, any of the shotguns (specifically any of the Breaker series), And even if they have these they usually have one of the machine gun strats and or the railgun they use instead and as a side note, I can't tell you how many matches I've played in that time and most people have one of the Democracy Can Protect armors instead of any of the other ones.
>>554244568Trash gun regardless of damage buff.
>>554244085FVLL
>>554244630what if they 2x the damage?
>>554244568the damage is fine, low belt size and recoil / ergo hinders it
>>554244568I'm just reloading this shit non stop holy hell
>>554244568Specifically durable damage.
>>554243914Then why does the crossbow need nerfing when the eruptor is 'popular thing'? Next everyone will go back to AC strat and they will get a yt video by this nonce.
>>554245410Because meta trannies that gathered the courage to pick something different realized that most weapons in this game are actually fine and left them flabbergasted.
Luv me CarLuv me cuck dome.Luv face tanking a billion lasers.Luv the botsAn't a dissident, just love killing em.simple as
>>554244863bring supply pack, crouch, wear PP armour
>>554243914frankly crossbow is still better than eruptor due to the cycling shit.
>>554244568Backpack would be an actual improvement. Of course that will never happen
>u2berts start honking about crossbow>first match in a while i've seen one>guy shoots a bolt, which skips across the floor like a stone across a pond>explodes a teammate 50m away>turns, fires at a fleshmob charging him down>kills himselfyes... THIS is the most broken weapon in helldivers 2...
>>554245995>bring-Weapons ought to be good by themselves
>>554246272>weapons should have no weaknesses, that's what "good balance" means, right?k
>>554246705No, weapons ought to be good by themselves, it's not hard to understand, you can't?
>nerftard so baffled by the notion of increasing a weapon's strengths so they outweigh its weaknesses he automatically assumes you must be talking about removing said weaknessesactual, genuine low IQ imbecile
>game looks muddy as fuck with anti-aliasing>game looks jagged as fuck without anti-aliasing
>>554247446>take off glasses>get anti aliasing for free20/20cels aren't allowed this
>>554242438that's what killed team fortress 2 too lol
>>554247529imagine having discounted cyber eyes and you see the world in 480p
>>554247586Content creators that chased comp faggotry killed tf2
>>554247369>the notion of increasing a weapon's strengths>>554244863>the damage is fine,he explicitly said the strength of the weapon doesn't need to be increased, so what does that leave? that the weaknesses need to be reduced>actual, genuine low IQ imbecile
>>554247973>>554247586Its honestly sad to see how TF2 had sovlful weapons be absolutely gutted to appeal to a bunch of faggots that want to be taken seriously because they play a video game.
>>554248280you've already proved there's not a single coherent thought inside your little head, dog, sit down
just about to die so I arm a orbit shotgun. perish and helldivers waddles over with his mech and gets 3 big blasts to the face + destroying his mech. in the end did 5k team dmg because of that. your like 20 lvls above me
>>554244568>low stagger>low durable>low ammo>low spare mags>long reload>high recoil>low as fuck ergoYet this gun is probably one of the most fun guns to shoot.It's married to the supply pack though which kinda kills it.
>>554246170nooooooooo. you dont understand. the crossbow has... SPLASH and thats le bad. watch as he... AIMS! and kills A TURRET from it's weakspots... and A HARVESTER... with a commando.....i-ignore the re-enforcement budget in his videos where 80% of the footage shows he has 3-1 remaining because he clearly kept killing himself and others with it.. pure coincidence!
>>554246170So it's a bad weapon because a bad player will blow himself up with it? Just out of curiosity, do you think the Tesla is a bad sentry?
>>554244568Peak physique or recoil reduction
>>554248926What?
There should be a big boy PP + low recoil heavy only armor
>>554248926>have /tesg/ and /hdg/ open at the same time>see this in /hdg/My mind is full of fuck
HA HA! SEE WHAT I DID? I IMPLIED ONLY TRANS PEOPLE ENJOY <insert thing here> WHICH IMPLIES YOU ARE TRANS TOO!
Everything the crossbow does, purifier does better
I want a leandiver (male) to teamreload me...
>>554249346But what about closi
>>554249469*smacks your dumb face and interrupts you*you were saying?
Recoil armor should reduce recoil further frankly. 30% isn't that noticible.
>>554248440Sandman... Shortstop... Splendid Screen... caber... Dragon's Fury... parachute... Enforcer... pomson... every single demo sword except the one soldier can use for some reason...
>>55424981830% is fine. It should reduce recoil while standing instead.
>>554248440>>554249904>guys we need to nerf - "useless shit that no one used seriously" - because someone used it in a comp match to instantly kill a medic>btw those weapons are just banned in comp, and still banned in comp despite getting nerfed.
>>554243208So what if it is? That means it needs to be nerfed?
>>554250069I heard the parachute got banned because it made people harder to hit in the air which is fucking hilarious considering comp is for retards that have their heads up their own ass.Gutted because a bunch of autists had a skill issue.
>>554250000It does, that's the main reason to use it. Only reason to take it though is that you get more visibility while shooting, but it's such a neglible diffference compared to being able to pull down faster like with peak physique.
>>554250285yeah unironically because you drop and re-deploy.
>>554250515Its funny because in normal gameplay it probably wasnt that bad because you had more people +sentries everywhere.
>>554250332schizo collage
>>554250709same reason ambi and fucking razor back got nerfed. Cause in highlander diving a sniper with razor back and a medic on him was 90% of the meta. Meanwhile razorback is just a shitter pick anywhere else.It's really impressive honestly how they saw the 1% of play styles in comp lobbies and thought, "Yeah we should chase after this market, this will work like it did with dota".
>>554250000>It should reduce recoil while standing instead.>should
>>554250000it does
>>554250829Wdym?It shows how high the recoil climbs with each fire rate and the armors.
>>554250332>>554251141>>554251425>"Either the description is inaccurate or the practical effect is unintended, as recoil reduction applies across all stances rather than being limited to crouched or prone positions."My mistake for trusting swiggers to do anything right
>>554247586I fucking miss babyface blaster.>Weapon designed entirely around the idea of sacrificing your Scout double jump for more speed>Additionally you also spawn slower and have to build up speed charge by damaging enemies, meaning it now takes you longer to get back into the fight after dying>Perfect sidegrade trading vertical mobility for running speed>For no fucking reason whatsoever, out of nowhere give it another caveat of now losing charge whenever you take damage and a lot of it so any chip damage slows you down to essentially normal Scout speed if not slower, so now you can't really retreat or do any hit and run to effectively use mobility on your mobility based class>If pyro scratches you slightly you're just fucking dead, since his DoT means you have zero charge, can't get any back and now the Pyro, the close range high damage class, is now faster than you so you can't escape (keep in mind you're also close range as Scout but with much less damage because you have greater mobility instead)>Gun goes from a really fun trade off sidegrade to literally unusable dogshitWhy the fuck did they do it?Now that I think about it yeah, Helldivers 2 gives me a lot of the same "why the fuck?" reactions to its balancing. Except with TF2 it started happening after years of playing, here it's just a constant since day one.
Pretty sure the worst part about stealth is the patrols.Tho I don't know what's genuinely worse; the entire patrol knowing your exact location the second one single soldier gets a paper cut, or the fact they are so constant, and so poorly made to act like they don't already know your location.
>>554252127>Trying to be stealthy for once>Crawling past patrol>Suddenly the patrol starts making the most blatantly obvious beeline towards me to call in a drop while still pretending they dont know Im there.
>Stealth missionsNo thanks I will pass on this shitbond and whatever planet they're linked to. Stealth doesn't work consistently at all. Shit randomly aggros you and that's just the odd enemy during a normal mission. Imagine missions that rely on stealth in this broken mess of a game?
They should add distractor beacons to HD2 as a secondary objective to help with stealth, I think.
>>554252723They will probably work like Payday where stealth is optional.
>the last 1-hole outpost on the map pumping out 100 mobs per second straight for (You)
>>554251712Soda Popper with mini crits built up by running was so fucking imba but I loved it so much
>>554252617It's all so tiresome. Which is annoying when sneaking around an outpost actually works mostly. But even they're ruined by the patrols coming right up behind.Oh yeah, can't hear em either cause your hearing actually comes from your vision
>>554253097Then the warning is less than useless. Bunch of not even sidegrade trash.
>>554248720sorry i was jorkin itthe tesla tower is the fourth best turret in the game
>>554251628Fuck swiggers. They could at least update the description, if they were human. Must be a load bearing text box that can't be altered because Stingray.
>>554253582They could contract Norwegians to update the in game descriptions of their broken shit (or fix it.)
>>554244085GG>Thank you!
Lobby doko?
>>554254495steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241039205688/
>>5542549242/4 GET IN HERE!!!!
errrrrr what the sigma
>>554255169>L1>BlueArtists outing themselves as never playing the game challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
>>5542549243/4Get in here anons
>>554255396It's called Creative Liberty, chud. If you people ever actually made anything in your life instead of making complaining a full-time job, you would understand.
>warbond delayedmy ADHD is reach critical mass, I need my dopamine NOW
>>554253050Rare random anon idea W
>>554193327>Esker (comfy forest)The fuck? Esker is just the brap version of Fori Prime's non-hot desert.
Is there a worse feeling than missing a shot with the railgun?
>>554252127What I hate is that If you smoke then aggro one dude. Everyone else knows where you are exactly in smoke
>>554260495Getting flinched to miss your shot
>>554214672We're not getting Merak out of this, I am sure. What we're only getting out of it is the ease with which they can now attack Merak, since Penta no long functions as a roadblock to it and blackholes always counter as under Super Earth control. Which means we get Reddit Creek biome for the bots again after about a year+ of time, since Merak is the only other planet on bot front that has the Creek's biome.
>>554260495The robutt saying you dont have admin permission to access her butt
>>554260495Yes, seeing your fucking stratagem ball bounced off a perfectly flat surface
lobby dokko
>>554260495missing a shot with your last EAT
>>554262524This is among the most infuriating things that can happen. You should NOT be punished for using elevated surfaces to your advantage because AH can't make good AI enemies.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241044965011/76561199586955078we gaan
>>554260495Getting put on standby for 6+ minutes because your teammates are dumbfucks and two of them combined eat up 15 of your reinforcements.
Fuck off smelly furfag
>>554260495getting a drop stuck on some weird elevation, or getting gameplay cucked by some orbital napalm/380
ok i'm trying out squids on higher difficulties, what do you bring? right now i've got a shotgun, talon, and gas grenades. loadout is looking likeGas dog (my crutch)Support is undecided, both laser and MMG seem greatGas strike and orbital gatling? Not sure what to take hereright now the only real issue are the fucking flying dudes and stingray.
>>554196520heh, thats me>>5542636372/4
>>554264638It doesn't matter what you bring. the faction was completely raped into the ground with nerfs.Just bring a stalwart and any medium pen primary and steamroll the entire faction.
>>554264638eruptor, if you like using it. it destroys overseers, stingrays, and illuminate shields and ships.
>>554264638reprimandsabergas grenadespeak physiqueHMGsupply packorbital gasorbital gatling
>>554264638>squids on higher difficultiesYou bring exactly what you used on lower difficulties, because squids are the easiest faction in the game by far.All you need is raw DPS and chaff clear, because the vast majority of what you'll be killing are Voteless. Just make sure your support weapon is at least AP3, that's all you really need to kill Harvesters and Stingrays. Autocannon is easy mode since it kills everything with minimal effort.MG Sentry is very strong since it kills Voteless and Overseers with ease and is low enough cooldown to always be available, lets you move around very quickly. Gas Strike gives you crowd control and can also be planted on top of Warp Ships and Illegal Research Labs for free kills, I prefer OPS since you can use it to crack open colony walls.
>>554264869>raped into the ground with nerfsThe faction was already easy mode before those nerfs, which didn't really do all that much anyway.
>>554265631Sure thing, Rajeesh. Is that why every single redditor here cried nonstop about the meatball for months?
>>554264638give the warrant a try. it deletes any watcher within 60 meters with 4 shots and a full mag will kill elevated overseers
>>554266030Annoying = difficultOh shit, its the thats anon terrified of flies!
>>5542636373/4
List of retarded niggers to hug while playing with:>Z2J>Ryoko>Corvus>Nirah>wkc>UN inspector>Wulfgamer>rinzu>Lemon>Monky>gucci slippers>ScruffScruffz>Mr. 4 Pyramid>A.L.I.C.E>WARPED METAL, FLAYED FLESH>NIHIL>Sens>gurololi>Rohzdear>Raiva>FungusAmongus>max stirner>Kot>Blood&Soil>Majorr
>>554264638>>554265117also recommend speargun to follow up with your gas theme. 3 shots harvester leg joints, staggers fleshmob charges. for stratagems, try mg/gatling sentry and gas strike/napalm airstrike/strafing run. to prevent friendly fire when placing your sentry, be wary of it's firing lines intersecting with high player traffic, and try not to place it on the same horizontal elevation as where the players are going to be on any given objective/hold. the gatling sentry is especially bad for friendly fire, and the mg sentry is not nearly as bad for it.
>>554266475>I'm still on the list
>>554263637is it fvll?
>>554266235You got filtered by flies lmao
>>554267712Youre the one that said flies are scary because annoying = threatening
>>554244863The recoil and the low ammo count would be fine if the gun were punchier
>>554267837Did i? You seem to be confusing me with someone else, schizo
>>554244568.>>554244863the bipod should actually work for one.
>>554264869>medium pen primarylolThey were like that before the nerfs too. You just brought anti chaff out the ass and that was it.>b-but you can kill fleshmobs by aiming at their faces, ignore the fact that aiming center mass on them is worse nowSquids are just a DPS check faction, there is nothing else to them. They get easier the more anti-chaff shit you bring and that will never change.
>>554268282Go prone.
Is factory strider cannon turret accuracy better against host? When ever I'm hosting. It fucks me up quite badly. But when I join the game. That turret is non issue
>>554268020Nah, its you. I cant tell because how you take yourself so seriously.>>553655130
>>554268450can*
>the fly obsessed jeet is enamored with me this muchWow
>>554268450>wow dude these warstriders are so hecking hard >*nukes them with a rocket from across the map*.>I really love how fair and balanced bots are.
>Hes mad people have good memoryWow
>>554266475I've never seen my name on the list despite playing with most of these anons and hosting frequently.
>>554269003Maybe you just haven't played with the one managing the list. I'm sure you're doing good if they keep playing with you.
>The ranged faction can be hard countered by engaging them at rage
>bufftoddler got so butthurt that he waited for me to post again so he could continue shitposting about flies and his skill issueImpressive, but also sad.
>>554269227yeh that boringI think easy gameplay shouldn't be a efficient hard counter.
>>554269427Play bugs if you want the close range faction.
>>554268968>wow dude these warstriders are so hecking hardYes, that is what bufftroons have being saying since day one.
>>554269483I kinda do desu, omicron is a lot of fun when it's not being retarded with invis corpses or the worm. Bots are fun when they're like jungle bots tho. I wish bot drops would always drop ontop of the nigger they call on.
>>554269347You sound upset you got hard read.
>>554269602You got so upset about getting BTFO 5 days ago that you waited excitedly for this exact moment for "revenge". Get a life.
warstrider just feels like shitlike it's weakpoints are all out of placeit's the same problem fleshmobs had where shooting the glowy shit doesn't actually amount to anythingi wish they would actually just outright kill you tootheir nades need to do way more damageif you're caught by their nades like a dumbass you should be punished
>nerftranny crying because zxe did not receive (You)sI weep.
>>554266475Old ass list, the only ones who is still playing this shitty ass game are:>UN inspector>Wulfgamer>Lemon>Mr. 4 Pyramid>A.L.I.C.E
do you guys like to bring multiple eagle stratagems? you wanna use them up before a rearm but you also don't use all of them at a same rate, leading to a cooldown bottleneck. you would also feel weak during rearm duration.
>>554269769You sound stressed. Did a fly enter through your window?
>>554269835>i wish they would actually just outright kill you tootheir nades need to do way more damageif you're caught by their nades like a dumbass you should be punishedThe bufftroon seethe would be apocalyptic.
>>554269907This is why I don't bring more than 1
>nerf indian is awakeWelp, this thread will be unusable for the next 8 hours, see ya.
>>554269963Did you get killed by a warstrider again?
>>554264638dealer's choice primarytalon or verdictdealer's choice grenadedealer's choice passivegatling or laser turret but make it gatling because fuck your teammates and honestly the mg turret is weak pussy fag shit even if it does have superior CD airbursttesla turretwild card - maybe throne if you're scared of levs, maybe solo silo's good for those idkairburst
>>554264869How was it more difficult? Right now the only difficulty is bullshit difficulty of getting sniped by an overseer or deleted by a stingray. I hope they rework it at some point and lean more into the horde aspect because it's nice to have a faction where you can just unload and delete shit.>>554266151sadly I don't have that gun>>554265306>>554265464>>554266659Thanks for the tips. So far gas is a very fun build, I've been enjoying the Spray n Pray but might swap out for something with more range to deal with these flying fucks. Also what's the deal with the big sky laser ship? Just an extra fuck you?
>>554269003Same, im also never on the list
>>554270036Its ok, you can always go back to your trooncord with the rest of your sisters.
>>554270231>Bullshit difficulty is when the enemies use their guns to kill me
>>554270289+15 izzat
Gucci chimpout again?
>>554270024steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241049740692/
>>554269868Im in a whole lobby rn with 3 of those dudes
>>554270231>what's the deal with the big sky laser ship? Just an extra fuck you?assuming you're talking about the leviathan? pretty much. you have to invest considerable AT into killing one, and AT is out of place within the illuminate meta atm so you don't wanna take much of it, if at all. even if you do kill them, they'll just respawn.
>>554270615>can't do higher difficulties bc it'll make casuals rhee>add subfactions>constantly add subfactions to MOs where the majority of players are forced to interact with them>casuals rhee
>>554270609Failed
What if... we could melee with throwables, both grenades and stratagem balls, to force a hard stick? How dumb would that be?
>>554270417unironically yesguns should not be accurate, they should be obstacles to dodge like a bullet hell gamea flying sniper is probably the stupidest fucking enemy you could add to a game like this
>>554273092>Bullet hellKek, if it were an actual bullet hell then you and shitters would be dying regardless or even more than now. You literally just want enemies to shoot without ever hitting anything so that you can pretend you're in a warzone but without the danger of a warzone.>Elevated overseer>SniperSince when is a plasma rifle a "sniper"? Elevated overseers have already been nerfed into the ground. How many more nerfs do you need?
>>554271438Hello? Based Department? I found one of your top guys.
>>554273442maybe fortnite is more your speed lil nephew. leave helldivers to the uncs
>Couldve easily added an invisible backpack to the stealth bond saying we reverse engineered it from squids>Go with shitty smoke grenades instead because thats more "le realism"Whats the fucking point?
>>554273909Then why have any difficulty selection then? Just condense all 10 modes into one mode. D10 is already a good normal mode.
In my FRV, we're listening to the Backstreet Boys.
>>554240969Because the fucking retarded subhumans do it for viewsAnd retarded niggercattle give them more attention for it. People need to just ignore them unless it's to introduce their head to a brick.Bitching about it just gives them what they want. All they deserve is the brick.
>>554268362>lolYou still need to kill stingrays and harvesters, retard.
>>554243421>>554242626We had this thing called a difficultly selector but casual shitters kept jumping to the highest difficulty for some reason. And AH had make D10 super easy just for them. So now the sweats are asking for nerfs to make the game hard again.
>Nerfindian got so mad about the hard read hes shitting up the thread out of rage, desperately hoping for someone to take the bait.Get a different hobby, man.
>>554276672I'm at work. You're here on your freetime, loser.
>Bots now have shield generator-esque bubbles of protection around their side objective/main objective structures that take a lot of punishment but go down permanently when burst>Can be walked through just like Helldiver shield generators, so all the old tactics work exactly the same>Solo Silo can now destroy them if there's no shieldYes/no?
>>554277528Would never happen. Redditors and /hdg/ would go ballistic and start review bombing the game again. The enemy is only allowed to get weaker, never stronger.
>>554277528there's no need to make AT emplacement even stronger
>>554277528What exactly would this accomplish?
>>554274606>>554276121lol
>>554277851gets rids of the retarded disparity between weapons i.e. your 500kg can destroy detector towers yet the solo silo cant despite the fact the solo silo missile is a larger payload.
>>554277969So this has nothing to do with improving the game and only about your vendetta against someone?
>>554277528AT emplacement would still roll these. Make it for mega bases only and make the shield indestructible from the outside.
>>554278063vendetta against the game not making sense under arrowhead's own realismfag rules?
>>554277969>554277969i agree anon500 shouldn't have this ability, it trivializes too much of the game
>>554277969>despite the fact the solo silo missile is a larger payloadIt may have a higher damage number but there is zero chance it has more explosives physically, the 500kg is a gigantic bomb.
lolbby doko
>>554278130I think it has less to do with realism and more just general health of the game. Being able to destroy jammers and detector towers from the other side of the map would honestly be really bad for the games health.
>>554278385there are no doubt ways to mitigate this that would feel more interactive and less like arbitrary rules.what if buildings had ablative armor?>hellbombs instant kill always>other smaller yet still high explosive methods require multiple hits but can still do the job
>>554278385At this point does it even matter? You can already annihilate fortresses with one use of the ATE. Its only a matter of time before the solo silo can destroy jammers and detectors.
>>554277528Yeah that'd be cool. Fuck out ranging bots
>>554277528Just give anti air ability to shoot down silo missile. When you land jammer next to anti air. You either have to take down anti air or manually take out jammer.
>>554278695The community would not tolerate that.
>>554278695>Bot bases have to be dismantled espionage style from the inside out for you to start getting your stratagem options back>Giant bubble shields block your orbitals>Anti-air blocks your Eagle 1s>Support weapons and other pod-based options get through the shield just fine and can't be shot downSounds fucking awesome desu.
>>554278584You can't with ATE but could with strafing
>>554278584Because Jammers and Detectors are meant to add gameplay.
what role will cyborg elites play? are they going to be a stalker type of enemy?
>>554278835None of that will ever happen because redditors and /hdg/ wouldn't tolerate it.
>>554278385Hellbomb backpack already trivializes the jammer. Nothing really matters after that.
>>554278875They do this when they see a helldiverhttps://files.catbox.moe/uacyzj.mp4
>>554278952>Hellbomb backpack already trivializes the jammer.You also need to be right up on it. Youre asking to do that from across the map with zero risk.
>>554277528I kinda like this idea but they shouldn't be over everything they should go over side objectives of stuff the bots would prioritize shielding for holding ground like AA Guns or Mortars maybe add a variant of the tank yard or some kind of air field with it?
>Charger dies in front >Starts lobbing grenades next to it >Grenades get caught on the air a good 2m away from the charger corpse >Daintily drop down and explode my assYOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED SWEDEN
>>554224121>
Balance is important because it's a multiplayer game
>>554278835once upon a time we had such ideas floating around
>>554279178I can run into a jammer with heavy armour and the jammer is full of warstriders and I'll still blow it up. It's even more braindead to do with lighter armours. The only time the jammer is a problem now a days is if your first spawn was near one, but it's just otherwise pointless side objective since hellbomb backpack exists.
>>554280837I feel like the detector tower and strat jammer should be sharing the center locale for better coverage on both.
>>554251712>babyface blasterFuck why you gotta remind me anon, that was the only reason why I touched scout
>>554278875They make ap3 worth a fuck
>>554280974How is that meant to be an argument meant to persuade me from my position? So you want jammers to be even easier?
>>554280694>medium penif only
>>554281197Yes. They should be able to be destroyed by the solo silo because they are already trivialized and a waste of time.
>>554264638HMG + Nade launcher. Everything else is irrelevant. Jetpack for even faster UFO take downs. Ignore all enemies, just sprint from objective to objective, shoot the shields, grenade in, next objective.
>>554281339So because you can run up to something and hellbomb it, you also think it should be EVEN easier by not interacting with it at all? Your logic makes no sense
>>554282086Do flesh mobs have weak points?
>>554282086He's not interested in solving problems; he just wants engagement. He might even be swedish.
>>554277969>A missile that fits in the same hellpods that people fit in and has to fly to the target>A larger payload than a 500kg dumb bomb dropped by a jetThey should've done silos differently to begin with. A weaker missile that's maybe two or three times the damage/aoe of the spear. Designators should be multi-use and work for any active silos- firing them in order of oldest -> newest. Give them a cd of 90s or something and let people litter the map with them like EATs, except actually able to be used later on.
>>554282086This is the playerbase that thought that the solution to get rid of the running meta was to make fighting completely trivial, it's hopeless
>>554282086His point is that none of it matters because nothing takes any effort to begin with. D10 is a joke even with subpar gear.
Honestly I think something like Portal could aesthetically fit into the game. It's already established that SEHC is okay with shipping out equipment that poses grievous risk of injury and death in the form of the Control Group warbond so having a company that does shit as insane as Aperture Science ask if they could have a few hundred million Helldivers as volunteer test subjects doesn't sound that far outside the realm of possibility.
>>554282748I get thats what hes saying but I dont see how doubling down on making the game even easier is supposed to be good for the game.
>>554282875Balance accelerationism
>>554282086It doesn't require effort already. Just give us other answers that deal with the problem already because running up to blow it up with the hellbomb is both easy and boring as fuck since none of the enemies guarding the jammer are even a threat to you. I die blowing myself up just so I can respawn near my gear faster and don't have to run back to it. WASTE OF FUCKING TIME.
The game is already easy so they should give us an orbital nuke that auto wins the mission. Running around the map to press some buttons on a terminal is boring and a waste of time
It's 2026 and the SPEAR continues to be a useless piece of shit.
>>554283621It's niche is breaking the worm's armour so you can actually kill the damn thing.
>>554283621How do you even buff it?
>>554283425>It doesn't require effort already.Running up to the Jammer and triggering your hellbomb is the same amount of effort as plipping the jammer with the solo silo from across the map.Okay, you have to be trolling. Guess you got me.
>>554283564This. Also calling extract drops SC too.
>>554283564They might as well at this point. Redditors would eat it up
>>554283728Give it an alt firing mode akin to some pseudo Metal Gear Solid Nikita missile system where you're stuck in place, but while holding the aim button, you can manually guide the missile's trajectory using a FPV at the cone. Has a fuel system to prevent cross-map cheese.If you let go of the aim button, or get ragdolled, the missile spazzes out and flies in any random direction, or detonates when it runs out of fuel.
>>554283752The effort is the exact same, just that the silo saves me about 2 to 3 extra minutes off of my life because I'm not spending those minutes having to run up to the damn thing to blow myself up with ease. It's a lame objective that wastes your time. Even the shrieker spires and the convoy have more respect for your time than the jammer as a lame, waste of your time side objective.
>>554284192Just lower the difficulty if they upset you this much
>>554284192You can save 20 minutes of your life by not playing the missions. Hours if you uninstall
>>554284492That's exactly what I've been doing for months now.
>>554283728Remove the backpack
>>554284525Fantastic, you can also save years by not posting here ever again
Based silo enjoyer. Anyone that enjoys jammers likely spams blues and thermites.
>>554284585Nah, I'd rather stay here and trigger niggers like you.
I fail to see the point of the c4 backpack when you can just use a supply backpack + thermites to do the same thing. "B-but stealth" is bullshit because as soon as you get spotted once or kill a single enemy (which will happen on most base layouts) it alerts all enemies anyway. Why would I slowly take out a base when i can just warp around and throw thermites? Also, I bet for "realism" AH is gonna make fabs take 2 c4 charges instead of one
>>554284623Except the guy is arguing you should be able to take them out from across the map with a blue.Didnt think this one through very much, did ya?
>take minigun to bots>This is actually going pretty well, I can use shield gen to stop the bullets and just spew lead at shit Infront of me>Warstriders show up>Everytime I go to fire I'm being ragdolled >Teammate looks at me and the warstrider and throws a stun nade at itI finally see what they gave the python pack the rock solid perk. You are so fucked by ragdoll when trying to fire this thing on bots
>>554284492>>554284585>t.
>>554284781Hulks already take 2 charges (even though the trailer showed it takes one placed just about anywhere) so I wouldn't put it past them.
>>554284781Cause when I click resupply I get 6 c4 instead of 4 thermites with resupply. I can also take thermites and get 6 c4 and 2 thermites. Honestly I'm kinda expecting these things to be stupid OP if you know what you're doing. AH will probably buff them too because the packs not gonna sell.
>>554284781Well ideally, in a game not developed by stereotypical Swedistanis who huff their own farts and ignore feedback until it blows up on social media in pure negativity, C4 would serve the purpose of pre-planning a demolition, chucking them all on the structures you want dead, avoiding enemy contact as much as possible, escaping to a nearby hill, and enjoying the small chub you get when the entire base cleanly goes up in explosions and flames and all the enemies are baffled at what the fuck just went on. Classic espionage demolition.Problem: This is Helldivers 2, a game made by Swedistanis and flooded with half-baked poorly thought out systems. A game where we have "stealth" mechanics and yet the AI isn't designed to have escalating levels of detection, or patrols. Where "stealth" is just killing enemies before they can call in reinforcements, so at that point C4 isn't any better than just taking frags and chucking them into holes.
>>554285465>This is Helldivers 2, a game made by Swedistanis and flooded with half-baked poorly thought out systems. A game where we have "stealth" mechanics and yet the AI isn't designed to have escalating levels of detection, or patrols. Where "stealth" is just killing enemies before they can call in reinforcements, so at that point C4 isn't any better than just taking frags and chucking them into holes.That's also not even considering the spawning system that makes it so you can just run into most bases completely uncontested/0 defenders as long as the host and others are on the other side of the map. Why the fuck would you need stealth for that. It's the same problem the corpse bomb armour has, where dying to revenge kill enemies on top of you doesn't work if you run off solo and then get killed because the mobs instantly despawn when you die since no other player is nearby for the game to bother keeping them loaded in. You might as well just use engineer armour because it has the the +2 grenades and a far superior recoil reduction passive than the "TKs your teammates more than it kills enemies" passive. Absolutely no thought of how these mechanics would actually function in their own game was considered with that shit. Same way stealth is not considered at all with the game, and same for melee too.
Oh boy! Nothing says fun like defence campaigns.
>>554285465>Swedistanis who huff their own farts and ignore feedbackI genuinely believe they do this because of the 9 months conscript thing. Not joking. They get this ego about how theyre "hardened soldiers" and act like total boots. So when they get feedback from an American who hasnt served (but probably knows more about guns than they do despite that) they just get this smug look on their face and go "heh, I doubt you ever served. I did. Trust me, American, I know better than you"
>>554285883>Bricks on bots and ayys.Yes. It's the only fun I derive out of normal campaigns anymore since it's a focused mission type - no side missions or bases to waste your time - and you see more spawns to fight than in other missions.
>We got the shitty KZ2 version of the sta-52 instead of the sexy KZ1 versionWhere is my underbarrel shotgun you fucking swigroid Yakubian cum-skin gorilla nigger apes.
>>554286224>Look down scope.>All you see is the fucking gun.
>>554284781There is one funny thing you can do. You can throw c4 on every fab on the map amd then detonate it all at once clearing the map entirely. However, this would only be neat if they dont disappear like the drone grenades after a certain amount or time and if they don't despawn after going a certain distance from them
>>5542837281a. Give it a fire selection mode where the rocket flies straight towards the target instead of arcing upwards (the Javelin already has this in real life).1b. Give it a dumb fire mode like the Warrant where it just flies straight forward without requiring lock on.2. Give all regular heavies a top hitbox/armor plate that's a lot weaker than the front/side/back armor, to the point that it's basically a one-hit kill, and have the Spear's upward trajectory designed explicitly to go for that. Too much work compared to just letting the Spear do a shitload of damage though.3. Make the Spear inflict its damage as two kinetic penetrators, to get around ablative armor and shields (again, the Javelin has this feature in real life).Though really, AH just needs to give us more super-heavy enemies like the Leviathan, Dragonroach and Hive Lord, which can take multiple Recoilless shots without dying.
>>554286574There's a slot cut out in the carry handle for the scope to see through. Now, never criticize the KZ1 sta-52 again.
>>554229694Wrong gun.
>>554266475who
>>554284781They're designed for the stealth missions where the Super Destroyer leaves after one minute and you can't call down resupplies anymore. Also, the stealth missions are clearly going to work differently from regular missions in terms of detection.
>>554285465Shit like this is why I will always praise Metal Gear. It understood the perfect middle-ground between realistic AI behavior and being arcadey. Is it realistic that the same guard gets distracted by you throwing twenty empty magazines at a wall? No, but it's also not fun when the realistic reaction is the guard starts ignoring distractions.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241068171376/76561198126520852D10, Robots.
>>554287838OKAY!!!!!!
>released 4 months ago>immediate fan favourite due to being the first AR that can comfortably chew through hordes leaving others such as Tenderiser, Adjudicator and Lib Pen in the dust>AH doesn't take this as a clue maybe other AR's need a little lovingAre they deaf & blind or do they just hate their own game?
>>554287838FVLL, alive game.
>>554287081ThisFor those not in the know, here's the existing info about them.>Mission Type: Commando>On spawn, you have 60 seconds to call in your stratagems, and then the Destroyer leaves>No straight answers from leakers, but potentially (0) reinforcements on mission start. You die early, it's GG>Instead, reinforcements are earned as a resource by finding Helldivers in frozen hellpods, which you thaw out>Objectives include the leaked camera stratagem, where you have to record "evidence" of enemy wrongdoings>You have one (1) opportunity to recall the Destroyer for a resupply run of stratagems>Threat level meter with 5 tiers, increases every time reinforcements are called, think GTA Wanted level
>>554288121>Hurr durr why doesn't AH power creep the rest of the AR's? Coyote is too strong.
>>554288310It's other ARs that literally all require fortified to be somewhat usable. Yes I'm sure against bots (nerd faction) you can get away with using the Adjudicator as a DMR but if you take it to the bug front (real mens) it's just going to become a reload simulator. Coyote is what other ARs should also feel like.
>>554288282That actually sounds interesting, fun and like competent design which is why I know you're making up a bunch of bullshit.
>>554288426>It's other ARs that literally all require fortified to be somewhat usable.You're really telling on yourself when you say stuff like this.
>>554288426>It's other ARs that literally all require fortified to be somewhat usable.is this nigga serious lmaoyou can magdump every AR in the game with no effort in countering the recoil
>>554288448These got datamined alongside Redacted Regiment. Although annoyingly the only post I can find about it now is an Instagram post from 11 weeks ago. Seems all the other sources I had got deleted.
>>554288512Like I said people who dive bots should not reply to my post. >>554288601To a total of like 3 kills. Stop bot diving and try magdumping a swarm of bugs with your Tenderiser.
>>554288282>where you have to record "evidence" of enemy wrongdoings>Needing to record enemy wrong doings to convince anyone on Super Earth when the citizens all completely believe anything the government and news tells them to begin with, real footage or no.This seems pointless.
>>554288679Evidence falling in your lap after the fact is a beloved tactic of all authoritarian governments. In fact, they often instigate the conditions that create the evidence they're after.It's kind of like the retaliating bullied kid scenario. Kid gets bullied, nothing happens to the bully, kid retaliates, kid gets the full force of the faculty while the bully plays victim.
>>554288659>Complains about his skill issue then starts accusing others of having a skill issue.You're honestly just bad, anon. All three factions require little effort. Are you a ps5 player by chance? That would make things more understandable.
>it's another controller user complaining about ARswe've seen this episode already
>>554288924Now you're just projecting. I play on PC and play CS for the most part so my aim is on point.Facts:1) Coyote is only usable AR against bugs on higher dif (I understand you play at 5) 2) you're a bot diver - your opionion is of little consequence3) AH should give larger magazines to the rest of the ARs in order to make them viable
>>554289081>Has been projecting and making baseless assumptions since his first post.>"My aim is on point">He can't play unless he uses a perk for the AR'sAbsolute shitter or troll, i cannot tell at this point.
>>554288282That sounds really cool. But I know it will be a disaster. Also are these solo missions?
>>554289081https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U8ihQXi0S8
>>554289246You bring no arguments other than false accusations. It is clear you are not playing the game on a high level and/or only play against bots. Otherwise everything I have said would be clear to you.
>>554289393Whatever you say, shitter.
>>554289367>Also are these solo missions?No confirmation, but I feel like people would rather do them solo. You don't some faggot turning up in heavy armor and a mech decimating your run.
>>554288659>magdumping a swarm of bugs with your Tenderiser.is this supposed to be hardtenderizer literally has the lowest recoil of any ar in the gameyou do not play the game
>>554289370>cheesing against the only seed where light pen stands a chanceI've seen it all.
>>554289647It's not hard, it's just near impossible to get more than 4 kills from it.
lobbyuh dopklo
Interesting....... must study results..... surely this doesn't proof my point..... so many malders in /HDG/ who won't like this.....
>>554289958lobbyc doko
>>554289668How are they cheesing?
>>554289958lobby dokok'
>>554290068>only going for headshots>diving away from attacksHow is that not cheesing?
>>554289958 loobby dokok
>>554290156you are retarded
>>554290068>going out of your way to play the heckin reddit loadout against a faction that's made to be mowed down with light pen ARs Should've dropped against a bile spewer seed
>>554289958That the coyote is op and only used by shitters?
>>554288426>bugdiver>obvious retard opinionthis is bait
>>554289958>Eruptor sees a lot more usage than the crossbow and has heavy pen>"influencers" are calling for the crossbow to be nerfed???
>>554289958>surely this doesn't proof, SAAAAAAAAAARRRRHow about instead of shitting up the thread you keep it to the designated street?
>>554289958>purifier not even on the listAre people just stupid or what?
>>554290959This is against the nids, it's very mid there. Purifier against the bots is pure cheese
I'm convinced this guy posts here
>>554290959>Are people just stupid or what?Yes. took you this long to figure out the average person is retarded?
>>554292060bloody bitch basterd who let of you post my x???
>bugnigger blabberingSpeaking a lot of shit for the short super destroyer squad who failed the most basic fucking MO.
>meanwhile, on the bot front
>>554292060kek, gem you found there
>>554287838GGs.
Still pissed we didn't get a Halo support weapon stratagem despite having far more iconic weapons than Killzone.
>>554294917WE NEEDED THE BRUTE SHOT
halo more liek gaylofuck em
>it's a brood commander/hive guard seed>combined with low level pubbiesAlso who the fuck chooses lean body and male voice. Fags that's who. Trying to confuse my dick.
>>554294917They'd be more stronger than any of the weapons the swiggers have made.
>>554293575Cool light show for my walking simulator experience.
>>554295163Just imagine them to be failmales who are punished by Super Earth via sissification.
>>554295163>Trying to confuse my dick.>plays with coomer modsur not fooling anyone
how do leandivers look like again??
>>554293575"The game didn't get easier! You just got better at the game!"
>>554296260
>>554296669cute..
>>554296669Old image, I remember seeing this a long time ago.Obligatorily I must point out>level 22>playstation>>>>>>fat belly
So they delayed the warbond by a week or what?
>>554298090they didn't tell anyone how long the delay will be for lmao. very possible we have to wait another month. surely this won't delay the release of the next warbond?
>>554298236I hate sweden so much.....
>>554298236Coming on the anniversary next month
I'm telling you, they are making us farm omicron for the last drops of E711 for the next week or two because we failed the mission extraction MO earlier l
>>554288121Sorry, AH can't release good stuff. muh gruntfantasy. Everything new will be tuned to be mediocre at best, bad gear won't get buffs but if we accidentaly release a good weapon we will nerf itPlease buy the next warbond too, full of medicore trash just like you want it
>>554293575bufftoddlers did this
>>554288426The 3 "guys" that replied to you in this are the nerftroon samefagging by the way. But you're completely right and most of the community holds your sentiment; unfortunately the game is developed by swedes
Rent free, you will never have low crime rate, you will never have affordable housing, you will never have 6 millions vacations a year, you will never have free healthcare and most importantly you will never be White
>>554300136Whats it like living in 2024? Game still not easy enough for you?
>>554300263>low crime ratesL>affordable housingM>6 million vacations a yearF>free healthcareM>be whiteO>Sweden
>>554300249>s-samefag!You really struggle to use an AR on bugs? Do you have parkison's? Or are you just retarded?
You have no friends and you need to samefag to try to seem accepted.
>>554300516success breeds jealousy
>>554300624Ok, nerftroon
They weren't lying about brown hours
>>554300653Yeah man "jealousy" is totally why I'm keeled over laughing right now
GG
>>554300263>low crime ratesactually delusional lmaoi guess all the muslims committing rape and murder there don't count
>>554289958>most other weapon variance: ±0.5-3%>coyote variance: -11%>one week after releasesurely this doesn't proof my p-ACK
>>554301319>>554300872mudslimes only live in specific big cities that are shitholes nobody likes, hence why theres retards that think bringing them in isnt a problem cus it doesnt effect them. As long as u dont live in those cities its pretty great
>>554301592why do they even let them establish enclaves? are they retar- oh wait...
>>554301592>live in city>mudslimes>live outside city>retards who think mudslimes aren't a problem who will import more mudslimesI mean that just sounds like rape with extra steps.
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